Video news

[{"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Well, that's what we're seeing is that"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "the earth has been a lot more violent"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "than we've often been told. And that,"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "give me another example."}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "The last ice age when it ended, we're"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "taught today that the explanation for so"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "many megapana dying, you know, like"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "large animals like woolly mammoth and"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "such,"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "the explanation we're given for why they"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "died, and by the way, like my good"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "friend Randle Carlson, we have good"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "conversations around this. 44 million"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "megapona died during that event. 44"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "million in the northern hemisphere"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "in North America, right?"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "Northern hemisphere because that's where"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "it was the hardest hit. Now, we're told"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "that indigenous groups over hunted these"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "megapona and that's what led to their"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "extinction."}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "Completely backwards, completely wrong."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "In fact, the opposite is true."}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "Indigenous people were very respectful"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "of populations. They would never over"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "hunt. But the more important part to"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "take away is"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "no Steve this was a a recent article"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "published in a when one of the websites"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "uh like it was either New York Post or"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "uh Wall Street Journal or something like"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "What we found though across the northern"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "hemisphere, northern Alaska, northern"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "Canada and other places like especially"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "Siberia are massive boneyards, massive"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "events where they all these mammoths all"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "instantly died. And so what we're"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "finding, especially in areas called the"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "New Siberian Islands in the early 1900s,"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "they went up and explored and were"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "mapping them out. And they found entire"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "mammoths that had been flash frozen with"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "not only undigested food in their"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "stomachs, but actually in their throats."}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "Yeah. Wasn't that how they came up with"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "the term younger driest? Because it had"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "the driest flour."}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "The flower from that time period. What"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "gets wild though is that so um the the"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "frozen company um uh Bird's Eye really"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "funny like right of all things how"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "random is that? Bird's Eye way back in"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "the day was doing some studies because"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "they freeze things and so they were"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "doing a study on how cold it would have"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "had to have been to freeze a mammoth,"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "right? It was so funny. like a frozen"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "food company. They determined it had to"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "have been at least -150\u00b0."}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "Wa."}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "Instantly."}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "Instantly to freeze a mammoth like that."}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "I mean, they're the hardiest animal on"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "on the earth."}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "Now, here's where it gets really wild."}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "The flash freeze"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "flash freeze a mammoth. Here's where it"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "gets really wild is that during the"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "older dry on in in ice cores from"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "Greenland, you can see this huge spike"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "at 14 and a half thousand 14,500 years"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "ago. Like warmer than now. Okay. crazy"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "huge spike before all this chaos"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "happened right after a spike in"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "temperatures that's like abnormal and it"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "only lasted for maybe a year or two or"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "like even that. So when Edward Tol the"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "explorer went up to New Siberians and"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "found the frozen mammoths wasn't the"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "only thing he found. He found a 30 foot"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "tall alder tree that was hundreds of"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "miles north of where any trees can grow."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "Okay. Like out of place. Not only that,"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "it was flash frozen like the mammoth"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "with green leaves."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "Green leaves. It wasn't like a seasonal"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "climate like seasons came in and"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "shifted. It was in the middle of summer."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "So, how"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "and the tree froze with green leaves and"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "the mammoths froze in the middle of"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "summer. It means that this event"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "caused the temperatures up in the north"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "to drop as low as negative 150 degrees"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "like instantly."}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "How does that I mean like I understand"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "if comets hit it's going to black out"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "the sun and the atmosphere and it's"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "going to cause it to get very cold"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "quickly but how do you explain like"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "instantaneously going to negative"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "degrees?"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "Have you ever seen Let's see. I won't I"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "was going to bring up a movie here, but"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "um okay. If you get severe"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "interactions from the sun and I So"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "there's a lot of people in my my field"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "that are that are cosmic impact"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "theorists."}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "I'm not one of them. I'm in the camp of"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "Dr. rubber shock that instead of an"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "impact, it's more of like a giant CME"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "event,"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "solar mass ejection,"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "massive charged particle event that"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "bombards the earth and causes the"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "magneettosphere of the whole planet to"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "become weak, weakened, and then the"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "poles all shift. Okay? When the poles"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "all shift, you get a weakening of that"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "electromagnetic grid that protects the"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "earth and holes open up. Now, those"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "holes can have a couple interesting"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "effects. One of them is that if those"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "charged particles get through one of"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "those holes, they can like fry the"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "earth. And so when we were at Kev Klesi"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "in the Vaughn region, that was actually"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "probably the primary reason Robert"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "decided to join my the exploration"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "investigation of what we were doing is"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "that I was like, \"Robert, I'm pretty"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "sure from my understanding of geology"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "that these blocks, beautiful basalt cut"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "blocks have vitrification on them.\" And"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "I showed him pictures of meaning melted"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "melted stone. And so I showed him"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "pictures. He came out and we we hiked up"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "to this mountain temple. It's so"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "beautiful called Kev Kallesie. And"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "there's a massive megalith. It's it's"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "about 50 tons. It's huge. It's like 4"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "feet by 4 feet. It's it's enormous. And"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "the sides have all broken off. And the"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "top still has a beautiful smooth area"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "where they cut it where they where they"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "whatever however they did that on the"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "top of this block. The whole front of it"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "and these bubbles is you can see where"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "the basalt which is one of the hardest"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "stones on earth. It's a volcanic stone"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "is melted turned into glass. So it has"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "glass on the top of it. And he came and"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "identified it as is it is 100%"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "vitrification. Now, in order to get"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "basalt to melt, you'd have to have"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "temperatures to what do you think?"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "To get basalt to melt,"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "just to get stone to melt, like quartz"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "or basalt or anything that's got a high"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "th,000\u00b0"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "two nearly 2,000 degrees."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "On the surface. So, like we're"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "complaining about, you know, Death"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "Valley getting like 140."}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "How about 2,000? So, you would"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "essentially you would vaporize. So, if"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "if if Danny Jones was hanging out at one"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "of those sites,"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "well, that would be like a lightning"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "strike, right?"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "It would you would just poof. You just"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "kind of disappear. Um, and that's what's"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "so fascinating is then, okay, so it's"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "vriification. It's on a stone that's"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "already been cut. So, we know the st the"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "stone predated that event because it's"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "has cuts on it and it's beautiful."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "But it means that whenever that had"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "vitrification,"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "it had to have been an extreme event. So"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "that's the point is you don't just get"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "vitrification from like everyday"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "thunderstorms or regular events, right?"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "Vitrification has to come from an"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "extreme event like something that"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "is affecting like the whole poles of the"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "earth and opening up holes. And the"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "reason why these ancient sites are so"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "targeted"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "because you don't just see vitrification"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "like all over the place. It's because"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "they were only using stones that were"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "highly magnetic in most cases."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "Like they were like lightning rods. So"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "when you have these events come through,"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "they end up focusing on these places"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "because they're highly magnetic and so"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "they basically attract electromagnetism"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "and all these things and they and that's"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "what's really fascinating Danny is that"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "we saw"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "at nearby sites not just Kev Klesi but"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "Sh\u00e0ue next to it that the actual"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "original stone formations that the"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "temples that were there literally"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "exploded like exploded. We found"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "fragments that were scattered over"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "boxes exploded too. Some of the sarapium"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "boxes in Egypt."}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "Yes. That's a great example in in the"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "Sarapium in Egypt. There's these giant"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "granite boxes and the same thing"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "happened there."}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "Like it was an overwhelm like an"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "overload of energy."}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "Mhm."}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "And that these areas were like"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "specifically ended up getting that"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "overload because the upper Susi temple"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "at Sh\u00e0uiste there's nothing left of it."}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "And but what you find are an arc"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "in a very specific you can like measure"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "it even like an arc of an arc where"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "everything blew and flew towards and"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "there there are all these blocks and"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "there all the beautiful cuts that were"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "once in the the temple but they're all"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "broken all of them like fra all broken"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "into pieces like hundreds of them"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "like they exploded like the whole thing"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "exploded All right."}]

[{"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "You just brought up the unfinished"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "obelisk in in Egypt. Okay."}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "That was by far the largest obelisk that"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "they had ever created. Okay. More than"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "double the size of the the biggest one."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "Right"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "near Meanwhile, in Easter Island, the"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "largest moi ever that was that was being"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "created like two to three times bigger"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "than any of the moai that are there was"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "being taken out of the host rock just"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "like in Egypt."}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "But that was volcanic rock. Well,"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "they're both hard, but both of them were"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "being taken out of the host rock and"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "then it just everything stopped."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "Meanwhile, you go across the world to"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "China. You go to a place called You go"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "to a place called Yang Shen Quarry in"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "China and they were in the middle of"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "taking out the largest the largest"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "blocks in human history. Some of them"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "weighed over like well over a thousand"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "tons. Meanwhile, you add one more"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "Balbeck Lebanon."}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "Oh, yeah. And the quaries there, they"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "were taking out the largest that they"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "had ever done and they never made out of"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "the quarry. What you have in common with"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "all of these locations from everywhere"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "around the world is that the"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "civilization was in the midst of"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "creating the largest that they had ever"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "created of these structures, which means"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "that they're at the height of their"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "civilization because they were taking on"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "the biggest projects they ever done"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "globally. Everyone was. And then all of"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "a sudden, the work stopped out of"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "nowhere and they just vanished."}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "That tells us a few things. It tells us"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "one, they probably"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "were caught off guard somewhat or they"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "wouldn't be taking on massive projects"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "right before they're about to be"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "destroyed. And two, the scope in of"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "these events must have been so severe"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "that most of them must have perished."}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "And that whoever survived must have gone"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "to places like these massive underground"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "cities like Darren Kuyu and and Kam Ka."}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "I'm not sure you're familiar with, but"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "um you're not in southern Turkey are the"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "largest underground cities in the world."}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "Some of them go down to Yeah. It has a"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "sister city called Ka Mockley."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "The wild thing is that they built these"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "cities to be so survivable without ever"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "having to go to the surface that"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "Kaimachi is 5 and a half miles away from"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "Darren Kuyu. Okay. Okay."}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "Five and a half miles. That's a long"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "way. And yet at the bottom of Darren"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "Kuyu all the way down the lowermost"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "level they found a a tunnel like a like"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "a corridor that goes 5 and a half miles"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "all the way to Kaimley"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "like the people there that were trying"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "to survive couldn't go to the surface"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "and they were like going to go visit"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "their other another city with maybe"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "relatives and so they would have to"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "travel underground. I'm not sure a lot"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "of people don't like know about that."}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "And to this day, we have no idea who"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "built those cities. There's things"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "thrown around based on occupations of"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "people at different times, but we still"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "have no idea who built them. And the"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "amount of levels of Darren Cuyu is"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "astounding. The amount of rock they"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "would have had to remove. We've never"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "even found any of any of the stuff they"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "removed."}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "When did we discover Darren Kuyu? Do you"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "remember? Darren Kuyu is is is in I"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "think in the 1940s and it was actually"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "totally accidental. It's a funny it's a"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "funny story. There was a a man that had"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "an his his house was like an old city"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "and he was he had an apartment and like"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "it was like a mud brick apartment"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "whatever and he had chickens"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "and he couldn't figure out why his"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "chickens kept disappearing. Okay, it's"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "funny. That's that's the story. And so"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "he's like, \"What is going on? Where are"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "my chickens?\" And so one day he followed"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "one of them and he saw it go through"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "like a hole in the wall. And so he took"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "down the hole and it opened up and it"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "turned out it was an entrance to the"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "largest underground city in the world."}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "Jesus. Could you imagine?"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "It was right like in the the basement."}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "You have an underground city connected"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "to the bottom of your house."}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "So"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "I'll go to the top right one. Steve, the"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "Facebook one. So is this like a diagram"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "of how deep it is? It's like an ant"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "city. It's like it's like underneath an"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "ant pile what you would see."}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "And that's just Darren Kuyu. That's Ky"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "Mockley is just like that."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "And it can fit thousands of folks"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "up to 20,000 per place. And it's not"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "only just what it seems with just random"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "shafts. It's actually an entire world."}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "They had libraries. They had areas for"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "animals. They had areas for sleeping."}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "They had schools. They had air shafts to"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "to bring down air."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "I was going to say like how the hell do"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "they have oxygen down there?"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "They had a type of air shaft that went"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "on an angle."}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "Wow. Is that really it?"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "Holy."}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "It's all lit up and everything."}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "Well, they put lights in. I mean, they"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "weren't"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "I know obviously after they did that,"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "but it's amazing that they actually went"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "to this extent to like make it like"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "inhabitable and like so you could show"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "people."}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "So, they carved these air shafts"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "enormous distances to the top on an"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "angle so that rainwater couldn't like"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "flood them down there. And they would"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "live they would live for enormous"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "amounts of time. My theory that I many"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "other also support is that these were"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "created solely because of the cyclical"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "nature of these events and how these"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "civilizations remembered. Their"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "ancestors had been wiped out and they"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "built these entirely for their own"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "survival."}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "So how would this survive a flood"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "though?"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "How would it flood? What do you mean?"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "How would you survive a flood if it's"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "underground? They they have these giant"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "circular stones that they just roll and"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "seal and seal them underground"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "and it's watertight even if there's like"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "a like massive catastrophic flooding."}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "Yeah. Have you seen the big round"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "stones?"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "No."}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "Oh, they're amazing. So if you if you"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "look up Darren Cuyu in round door"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "stones,"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "but then you're also cutting off the"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "oxygen. So"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "no, they have air shafts. So they have"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "snorkels."}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "They have air shafts that are cut up"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "into high points."}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "Like high points that come out. There's"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "There's your There you go. Right there."}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "Um, holy."}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "So, do the one that's Yeah, the one that"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "next to it. But that gives you an idea."}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "They would roll those across and seal"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "everybody in"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "and that would be watertight."}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "As watertight as they could."}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "But here's the wild thing is Danny is"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "that what if based on how long these"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "events went on like the young the the"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "older Dus into the younger Dryus had"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "series of events that occurred for over"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "1,500"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "years"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "right entire human story."}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "What is the older Dryus?"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "The older Dryus is the events that"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "occurred right before the younger Dryus."}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "And they're not Yeah, they're not often"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "talked about, but the younger dus is"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "more like 12,000 years ago. The older"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "dus is like 14,500 years ago. Not that"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "much further, but they have direct"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "connections to each other. Like if"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "you're going to understand the younger"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "dus, you can't unless you understand the"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "older dus."}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "So my understanding is that the younger"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "dus lasted for about a thousand years"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "and then the older dus is another"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "thousand. So if you combine the two, you"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "get events, not all the time, but you"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "get events usually always on the front"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "and on and the front side and the back"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "side and then usually something in the"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "middle. And so imagine our earth going"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "through catastro catastrophic periods"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "where certain parts of the earth is like"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "you can't even live there. Not"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "everywhere our life would all died, but"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "certain parts of the earth were just"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "violent and and and difficult to even"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "live in. Imagine them going down there."}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "Imagine entire generations never seeing"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "the sun,"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "never even coming out. As far as we"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "know, like the people that went down"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "there and lived there, they may have"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "never surfaced."}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "They would evolve into gray aliens with"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "big eyes."}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "Something weird like like mole people,"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "No, no, no muscles on like they can't"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "see. They're blind. They"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "develop telepathy,"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "right? No, I know. So, but that's there"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "you go. That's like some good um"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "analysis. You can look at some of these"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "events um to see that. That's not"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "It's backwards. So,"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "it's not my favorite graph, but um"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "yeah, 10,000"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "some different versions of it we can"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "look at, but but yeah,"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "so there we're talking about"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "disasters that were enough to wipe out"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "an entire global civilization. And then"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "the survivors were the indigenous"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "people, which is why they had no idea"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "how to mimic and replicate what the"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "ancestors did."}]

[{"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "the US and China are playing tugof-war"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "with with a lot of these countries down"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "here down there."}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "And um"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "you know, it'll be interesting to see"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "what happens with Venezuela, but like"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "they're all over um China is all over"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "Mexico, too."}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "Oh, really? I actually didn't know that."}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "Yeah, they got they got mining"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "operations mining lithium down there and"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "they're using they're hiring the cartels"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "um and using them as security"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "uh for those mining operations because"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "they're you know they're producing tons"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "and tons of batteries in China."}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "And they're also um they're working with"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "the cartels in some capacity too. Um I'm"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "not sure exactly how, but And then"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "there's the fishing stuff too. They're"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "doing all kinds of crazy illegal fishing"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "all down the coast of Central and South"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "America"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "uh and Mexico,"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "but you know, right here in our own"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "backyard, you know, right right south of"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "us is crazy. They're everywhere."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "Yeah, it is. No, it's like the uh you"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "know, like the belt and road initiative"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "that the Chinese have. You heard of"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "that?"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "That in uh that I don't want to I was"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "going to use the word infected. That's a"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "really negative word, but infected."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "Infected."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "Yeah. Because it's like, you know, it"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "spreads, right? It's like, you know, but"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "that's a that's a very like American"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "nationalist thing to say. So, it's the"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "wrong word to use, but it sort of is the"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "case. But in Panama, the Chinese, like"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "before Black Rockck bought them back"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "again, they owned the ports on either"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "side of the Panama Canal, which is why"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "Trump went after the canal. That's why"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "he was very,"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "you know, uh I guess like publicly he"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "was he was uh very like outspoken in the"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "public about retaking the Panama Canal"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "like back into Americans hands,"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "right? The reason why he did that is cuz"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "the Chinese just owned the ports at"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "either side. So in theory,"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "there was a threat that they could uh"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "sort of like stop what was coming"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "through or they could at least have an"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "influence of what was coming through and"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "what wasn't."}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "Part of the canal treaty of 1977 stated"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "that if there ever was a threat to like"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "American security because of Ban Canal,"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "the Americans could take back control of"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "the canal. Right."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "That's like in the treaty. So um"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "so yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "Yeah. China China's everywhere, man."}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "They're uh I'm sure their spy operation"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "is We don't hear about it very often."}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "Like, you know, you really hear about"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "the CIA and the MSAD and a little bit of"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "the FSB, but you don't hear much about"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "about ch the chi China's spy operation."}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "I forget what it's called,"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "but um they're everywhere. They're all"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "over. They're all throughout the United"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "States. I'm sure there's so there's"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "probably dozens of undeclared, probably"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "not probably hundreds of undeclared"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "spies in the US. And like, you know,"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "they buy up our land. They have they got"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "caught recently put having like police"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "stations where they were arresting their"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "own citizens in the US."}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "Did you hear Did you hear about this?"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "This was crazy. We had um that lady that"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "we had come in here a couple months ago,"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "Steve was telling us about this where"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "they had um I think it was in New York"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "and all along the East Coast and maybe"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "in California as well, but um basically"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "they were kidnapping, arresting, and"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "I don't know what they were doing to"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "them, but they were basically"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "essentially Chinese Americans who were"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "caught speaking negatively about China"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "or something like this. And uh you know"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "they were [ __ ] arresting him"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "illegally in the US which is crazy. And"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "that was a huge bus that went down."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "Yeah. Admits running secret Chinese"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "police station in New York."}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "Dude, that is crazy."}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "Mhm."}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "Holy [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "Yeah, dude. It's bananas."}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "Oh my god. Yeah. I mean, I like I can't"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "say I know too much about it, but it's"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "definitely"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "like the covert"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "sort of uh operation that these major"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "nations."}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "They're very advanced, man."}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "Super advanced, dude."}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "People don't realize there's like China"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "is such an old culture. It's been"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "there's there's buildings in China that"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "are four times older than the United"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "States."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "It's crazy,"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "dude. It is crazy. Yeah. The United"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "States hasn't really been around for"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "that long."}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "No,"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "there's there are pubs in Ireland that"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "are older than the United States,"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "It's crazy when you think about it, you"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "know?"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "But like"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "Yeah. I don't know. I think that uh it's"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "kind of crazy too how it seems like the"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "people that run this country are envious"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "of China in a way."}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "You think so?"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "You know, they use uh they use like"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "communist communists are the bad guys"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "Yeah. And uh but like"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "I think the people that ultimately run"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "this place want to turn it into China."}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "They want they want this to be some sort"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "of a complete surveillance lockdown"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "police state."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "Um it just looks like it's going that"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "way."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "It does look like it's going that way"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "more and more every day, doesn't it?"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "Yeah. No, it really does. Like I spent"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "the last month in Panama and even just"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "the um the general feeling, the"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "atmosphere of things is just completely"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "different to being in the US."}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "I bet"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "completely different. You know, you have"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "Well, obviously I'm so biased biased"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "against the UK. Uh not a huge fan of the"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "UK and their government, but like that"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "country is going to complete [ __ ] Like"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "there are there was uh there's a really"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "famous Irish TV show from back in the"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "day called Father Ted and one of the"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "creators um tweeted about like"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "anti-trans messaging or something like"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "that. I'm not exactly sure what he said,"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "but when he landed in the UK, they"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "arrested"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "This was recent, right?"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "Yeah, pretty."}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "Yeah, that guy was on Joe Rogan, I"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "think, like a couple days before that."}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "No way."}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "Yeah, he was a TV writer, I think."}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "Yeah, he was. He landed there and they"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "arrested him."}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "He did. Yeah. The TV show was called"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "Father Ted. It's like beloved in"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "Ireland. It's like a comedy, but um"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "I saw a video yesterday of uh the police"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "were arresting a veteran, a uh a a"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "British army veteran or something like"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "this. They had him in his driveway. They"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "had him handcuffed. And he's like, \"How"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "are you doing this to me? How are you"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "arresting me for something that I"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "reposted on Facebook?\" I didn't even"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "write that. I just re rep Facebookked it"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "or whatever the hell you call it. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "And the guys, the police officer, this"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "is all on camera. The police officer"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "literally says to him, he goes, \"You"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "caused uh a lot of anxiety to the people"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "that had to view that and had to"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "experience your views.\""}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "Wow. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "It's getting really It's getting really"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "scary. Yeah. Graham. Oh, yeah. That's"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "it. Yeah. Father Ted."}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "Yeah. At London Heathrow very recently."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "He was on Joe Rogan."}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "Yeah. He was literally on Rogan like a"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "week before that happened."}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "Wow. I didn't know that."}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "Jesus, dude. Yeah. And that was a really"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "big deal in Ireland. And then he um you"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "might be able to pull up the picture,"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "Steve, but he uh he showed up for his"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "like court date with like a I forget"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "those things. It's like a like a plaque"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "that he that you put um"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "jeez, I forget what it's called, but he"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "had he basically had all this writing on"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "this piece of cardboard like over his"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "chest."}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "Um and he was like, you know, countering"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "uh the the sort of like the arrest"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "and just saying like this is ridiculous"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "cuz it really is."}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "But the UK has gone really sort of crazy"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "and and I think the US is is not really"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "too far behind."}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "Yeah. No, I don't think it is either."}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "Yeah. This exactly men out of women's"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "sports."}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "I don't know what those are called, but"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "Yeah. What did he post? He posted"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "something like uh like um keep"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "biological men out of women's bathrooms"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "or something like that. That was what he"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "posted."}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "Like it whatever he posted it was not"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "like inciting violence. It was not"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "doxing anybody. It was like I forget"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "what the tweets were. Maybe you can find"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "the actual tweets, Steve. But they"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "weren't they weren't crazy at all, you"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "know?"}]

[{"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "Have you ever heard of Essak Bentov?"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "No. There's a he was a uh he was a um I"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "think he was um an engineer"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "or a mathematician"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "who came up with the um this astral"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "projection process and he called it was"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "called the gateway process and there was"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "a whole CIA"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "um classified CIA program on this on"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "this astral projection and it was called"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "the gateway program. You're not"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "confusing with the gateway experience at"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "at Monroe Institute."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "Yes, the same thing, I think."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "Okay. I mean, but that was by uh Robert"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "Monroe."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "Well, this was somehow tied to it."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "Was it?"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. He offered um one of his"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "books was Stalking the Wild Pendulum."}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "I've seen the cover of that."}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "There's an incredible video, Steve, if"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "you can find it. Um of him basically,"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "he's on like a talk show. Just search"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "for like Bentov"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "talk show interview where he's"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "explaining this bell this bell curve of"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "human consciousness."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "Oh, interesting."}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "And he was basically saying that like"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "um on the two ends of the bell curve,"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "you have like really really dumb people."}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "Then you have like really really smart"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "people on like the top far end of the"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "bell curve. The middle of the bell curve"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "is like average intelligence. And then"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "you have on the very far end of the"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "bell. Yeah, this is it. Here. Here, put"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "the headphones on so you can hear this."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "This is amazing."}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "Repository of information that we gather"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "during a lifetime."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "Mhm."}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "Physical bodies are here and another"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "physical body. Another physical body and"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "this is Joe and this is Jim and this is"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "Sarah etc."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "Now clearly on the phys this is the"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "physical level. Yeah. Now on this"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "physical level we all separate. You sit"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "there and I sit here and we're all"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "separate. Now let's draw another level."}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "This level is is slightly higher and"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "let's call this the level of the soul."}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "Yeah. Well, there will be some mingling"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "Let's let's draw this person as"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "extending"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "to practically infinity this way. Now"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "look what happens at the physical level."}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "We are separate. We're separate"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "and there's this much distance between"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "us. Let's say that on the soul level"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "this person extends this much and the"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "other person gets slightly mixed in with"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "him. That is the souls are in a way in"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "touch with each other. Okay, they"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "overlap these two lines. Now let's go"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "now to a higher level and let's call"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "this uh say the level of the higher self"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "which is kind of a boss of that soul."}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "Mhm. uh there what we find is that"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "this fellow's"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "higher self extends this much and the"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "other fellows"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "extends this much"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "there is more overlap between them right"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "on the very highest level which is the"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "high spiritual level we are basically"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "over overlapping completely"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "everybody is overlapping everybody body"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "else. In other words, everything and"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "everyone is everywhere. In other words,"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "we've become omnipresent. This is the"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "state of highly spiritual perfected"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "beings or gods you may call."}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "Okay. And so that we exist on"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "fast forward to the bell curve part."}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "I'm probably before this."}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "It's probably before this"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "different clip. Maybe it's the same"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "interview, but it was a different clip"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "where you're showing a bell curve."}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "Yeah, I was trying to find it. I wasn't"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "sure if that was it. I know what you're"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "talking about."}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "Scrub through this, you'll see it."}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "Uh,"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "keep going. Keep going. Keep going."}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "Come on."}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "Keep going."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "Love that explanation, though."}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "Yeah. No. Isn't it great?"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "Cool way to"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "No, this is not going to be this video."}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "Visualize it."}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "Go to X."}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "Oh, wait. Oh, no."}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "That was the same thing. Okay, that's"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "enough of that. Okay, turn the uh"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "Wait, there it is."}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "There it is. There it is. There it is."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "Right off the top."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "Yeah, watch that"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "thousand people in it. This is the"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "curve. But don't worry, it's not very"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "scientific. Let me draw what is called a"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "bell curve which looks somehow like"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "this. It's being used in in describing"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "random events. And the way this works is"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "the following that if we assume now"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "let's let's take a following situation."}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "Take a little town that has maybe a"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "thousand people in it. And we have this"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "great desire to find out what the"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "average height of people in this town"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "is. And therefore we go out with a yard"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "stick and start measuring these people."}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "What we find that a very small very few"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "number of people will be say 3 feet tall"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "and a very very few of them will be"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "maybe seven or 8t tall. The bulk of the"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "population will be right somewhere here"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "that is the average or mean height of"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "these people would be about 5 feet and"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "six or 8 in something like this."}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "Mhm."}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "Okay. So what we find here is that uh"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "this very far end of that one"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "a good picture of where most of the"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "population is that is what typifies"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "population. We can use this diagram also"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "to describe evolution. The bulk of the"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "population today is this intelligent"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "more or less intelligent biped right and"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "uh uh with a vertical spine and who"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "pushes the buttons on TV and drives a"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "car etc etc."}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "Now there is some back throw that is"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "there are some people here in this area"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "very few people who are still gorillaike"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "that is your hairy they beat their chest"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "when they see their neighbors and a few"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "other things and then we have other"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "people who are here in this corner very"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "few of them"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "who are very highly developed because we"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "say that evolution is now pushing"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "mankind in this direction away from the"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "gorilla blood types towards the very"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "highly evolved people. This point we're"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "here. What's going to happen maybe a"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "million years from now, half million"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "years from now, this curve is going to"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "shift. It's going to shift like this."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "That is the bulk of the population will"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "be very very highly evolved. We have"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "gone away altogether from the gorilla"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "types. No more gorillas. And what we"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "have here now is the average man is now"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "the person. Uhhuh. In"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "evolutionary terms,"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "the bulk of the population is extremely"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "very very highly evolved and the cutting"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "edge of evolution here these are very"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "very highly evolved people. We can't"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "even imagine what kind what kind of"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "person that will be. He may not have a"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "physical body at the habitat so to speak"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "of this group here. Well, you just go"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "out and you find them. They're all over"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "the place. the habitat of this group"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "here. What do you think? What do you"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "think you find these people here? Hey,"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "I susect you would find them in"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "universities. You'd find the you know"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "the people who are very bright, people"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "who are uh in the leading edge of"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "professions that I it's an intellectual"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "thing, isn't it? Well, I suggest that"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "you find them in mental hospitals in nut"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "houses. And the reason for that is that"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "these people"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "they live in a different reality in a"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "reality which which is very changed and"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "few of them are adapted to live in this"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "reality. So naturally they can't"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "function very well. So the only safe"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "place only good place for them would be"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "the mental hospital unless they can"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "integrate their their their different"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "view of reality with their daily lives."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "Now if they can integrate it then we"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "have people like like Newton like Darwin"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "like like uh like uh day these are the"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "so-called geniuses."}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "The the thing that"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "How crazy is that man?"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "That's cool. I love that."}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "Pretty wild. That's awesome and such a"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "good demonstration of"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "of that. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "Yeah. So, he was uh he was the one that"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "worked on that whole that whole I think"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "it was Yeah. part of the Monroe"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "Institute thing was the um the gateway"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "the gateway program."}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "Can you check that, Steve? I I didn't"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "know that. Just that's just type in his"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "name."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "Yeah. Type in Bento Robert Monroe."}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "Have you considered going to the Monroe"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "Institute?"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "Um you should."}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "I would love to. I just don't have that"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "much time. Um I would love to do it. But"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "I've been they I think they've invited"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "me to come up there. But"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "Oh, they both contributed. Awesome. I"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "didn't know that. Cool."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "Yeah."}]

[{"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Yeah, let me I'll tell you about the"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "remote viewing thing. Um because the"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "reason I got into remote viewing, this"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "was 2021. There was a random post on um"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "one of the World Memory Championship"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "Facebook pages, and it said something"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "cryptic like,"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "uh if you're interested in making a"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "little bit of cash on the side, uh using"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "your memory, send us a message. I was"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "like, okay, I'll I'll check it out. Um,"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "and yeah, they were they didn't say"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "anything until I was on the phone with"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "somebody and they were like, \"Have you"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "ever heard of remote viewing?\""}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "Mhm."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "And I was like, I honestly had never I I"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "didn't I was like, \"Is that some kind of"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "streaming service or viewing something I"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "don't know away from your TV?\" I was so"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "dumb. Um, I was like, \"No, have you"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "heard of Project Stargate?\" And I was"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "like, \"Yeah, maybe some psychic"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "program.\" And then I"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "Where did you see the ad for this? Well,"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "it was posted a post on one of our"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "memory uh Facebook pages."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "Okay. Gotcha."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "Yeah. Um so they were looking for memory"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "athletes. Got it. And that's what it"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "turned out being is is it was a team a"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "remote viewing team they were putting"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "together um with memory athletes and"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "non-memory athletes, but they were"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "interested in using memory athletes"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "because of their visually their trained"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "visual abilities. There was a theory"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "that um they'd be better per perhaps at"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "remote viewing because of that trained"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "ability."}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "Okay. and they wanted to experiment with"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "uh me and a couple other people and they"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "were going to pay us to train for a"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "month with a remote viewing coach and uh"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "to be psychics or whatever and uh it was"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "for a trading firm. So they were"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "eventually going to"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "a trading firm."}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "Yeah. So they were going to have us do"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "associative remote viewing on tasks"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "every day that had to do with the"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "fluctuation of the market and"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "Yeah. Um, and so we were potentially"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "going to get a portion of the win, the"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "earnings and stuff like that. But, um,"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "the project fell through at some point,"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "but I did get my month training. Uh, I"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "did get paid. So, it wasn't like a scam."}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "They actually paid me. But I was so"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "skeptical like I didn't I in my"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "worldview that at that time did none of"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "that had there was no room for that. Um,"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "I grew up studying physics. Um, very"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "classically that was what I was going to"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "I was going to be a physicist. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "so this was not explained in that world,"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "you know, remote viewing. So I was just"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "kind of like rolling my eyes, but I was"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "like, you know what, it's maybe a cool"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "story to tell. Uh, I'll see what these"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "people have to say as they coach me how"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "to psychically see things that are non"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "remote, uh, not non-local. And, uh,"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "yeah, within maybe the first week, I had"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "some experiences that like I couldn't"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "explain, you know, with getting the"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "information right out of nowhere."}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "seemingly. Um,"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "and so slowly it kind of changed my mind"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "about what"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "is possible with the mind, you know."}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "So, were some of the people that were a"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "part recruiting you guys, were they like"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "former Project Stargate people?"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "No. So the uh no the the guy who trained"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "me um was trained by a guy named Ed"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "Dames, Major Ed Dames, who was from one"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "of the original um uh CIA programs, I"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "believe. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "Um not the original original, but one of"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "those."}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "He's he himself is a controversial"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "character, but um either way, the"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "technique is roughly the same. Everybody"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "has a little bit of a different take on"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "how to do it, but it's ultimately the"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "same. you're generating information from"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "seemingly out of nowhere or tapping into"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "something with your intuition, you know,"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "in this visual space. And um yeah, I'll"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "never forget the first time I had like a"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "hit."}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "Yeah. Where how did that go? Like did"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "they did they invite you out somewhere?"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "Did you have to go meet up with people?"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "And like how did that work?"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "It was all virtual. I actually never met"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "the people higher up at this firm. It"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "was kind of weird and hush hush, but I"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "would meet with my coach uh every day"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "for like a month. And uh you know, step"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "by step, he taught me the formal process"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "of how to remote view and he would have"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "a picture that he had randomly selected."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "He'd give me a task number. I'd have to"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "from that task number try to intuit it"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "what the picture was like through"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "descriptive words, sketches. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "yeah, some were not even close, but then"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "some would be so eerily close."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "Like, what kind of stuff would they tell"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "you to look for?"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "Well, at first for training it was just"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "random pictures, right? So, it could be"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "a landscape of"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "the Highlands in Scotland. It could be"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "picture of a dog, you know, it could"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "have been um, you know, mountain in the"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "Swiss Alps, anything. You know, I don't"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "I didn't know. I I had no idea what he"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "was choosing. It was totally random. And"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "he actually had software that would"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "randomize some okay image selection. So"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "it wasn't like he was even preparing"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "them."}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "So there's no way he would be able to"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "tell if you were actually remote viewing"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "successfully or not."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "Well, yeah, we would go over my results"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "after."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "But I'm saying he there was no because I"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "was trying to go through all the"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "explanations like how was I able to get"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "some of these so correct? Like is he"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "subliminally subliminally giving me the"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "information like and it's all a trick or"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "am I actually coming up with this"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "information somehow? Um but the the main"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "one uh that like really changed my mind"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "was I drew and described like a whale"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "breaching uh the ocean and it was after"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "a couple weeks. So we had developed he"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "had taught me the different stages of"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "getting really detailed um information"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "from these sessions and so I had all"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "these components that just like looked"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "exactly like the picture of all the"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "things it could have been. It was"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "exactly the whale breaching the exact"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "same way with the same uh colors and and"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "and and components of the photo. Like it"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "was all described there. It was just"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "like mind-blowing to me that I generated"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "that. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "So, I'm a little confused. Tell me. So,"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "okay. He has the photo and you can't see"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "Correct. And it was by Zoom. So, I he's"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "on another"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "So, he has a random generator on his"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "side that that creates a photo and then"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "you don't get to see the photo. What"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "does he tell you? I get a task number"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "which is just a"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "a task number."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "It's just an a random eight or six to"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "eight digit number."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "There's nothing in the number. It's just"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "a random number."}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "And I I used to ask questions about"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "that. I was like, why do you need the"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "number? What's the number about? Can't"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "you just let me do it?"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "And they're like, well, no, the process"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "is, you know, you get this thing that"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "you can kind of"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "I don't know how this all works. I don't"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "think anybody does, but I think there's"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "something if I had to kind of speculate"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "when the tasker, him, who's deciding"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "what the photo is and giving me the task"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "number that he's assigned to the photo,"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "that intention links the two somehow."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "So, when I get the number, even though"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "it's not any no information regarding"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "the photo,"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "maybe that through line to the signal"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "that like connects all information in"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "the universe is what I can tap into"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "through that number. I don't know. So"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "that number on his side is associated"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "with the image,"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "right? And he's decided that what?"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "And so he'll say like 1 2 3 4 5 6."}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "I write that down"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "and then I go I do the thing."}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "So he gives you the number, you write"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "the number down."}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "Yep."}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "And then what do you do?"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "Uh the first step is you come up with a"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "what's called an idoggram, which is"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "really just as soon as you write the"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "number down, you let your hand just draw"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "a scribble almost like whatever your"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "hand does. Your hand will do something"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "if you let it, right? And it might be"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "like this, like a little zigzag. It"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "might be a loop, whatever. And then from"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "that, you you kind of, it sounds so out"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "there, but you just kind of like feel"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "what you feel. I I don't know how else"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "to describe it. And and you'll get like"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "a general just or like a feeling, and"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "you you kind of write those down like,"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "okay,"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "fluffy uh and then like a general"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "category. Okay, landscape. Okay, you"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "start with that. Then you go into"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "descriptors. So the way that he taught"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "me is he would say you first want to go"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "through all the colors you sense, the"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "the tastes, the the the smells, the"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "dimensions, the structures, anything"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "that comes to mind, right? And you you"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "really want to try to quiet the logical"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "mind. So"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "anytime you're trying to like say, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "this is what it is.\" It's it's a bird."}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "It's a that's what you want to avoid."}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "You're just going through your trying to"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "describe things through your senses like"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "what is just coming to you. Oh. Uh, I I"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "feel like a pink orange. Um, a sharp"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "salty smell. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "whatever pops into your mind."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Without and it's hard to do"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "uh without your mind starting to be"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "like, \"Oh, it's pink and orangey. Well,"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "maybe it's like a a parasol on the"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "beach. Okay, it's a parasol.\" No, you"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "can never name things. Um, it's always"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "about just kind of describing. And then"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "after you've done all the descriptions"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "and sketches even, then you can start to"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "maybe put it together and be like,"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "\"Okay, this all kind of comes together"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "and is describing some kind of outdoor"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "scene with some kind of structure that"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "is, you know, tall jutting into the sky"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "and there's some kind of life form"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "around.\" you know, you describe it in"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "those ways, which I always thought at"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "the beginning was kind of like a copout"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "cuz it's like, yeah, of course you guys"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "are saying you're psychics, but you"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "can't really tell me what you're seeing."}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "You're just describing and and maybe"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "through general words, it feels like"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "you're coming up with the right"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "information because you can,"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "you know, it's you can convince yourself"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "that it's correct. But"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "there's a lot of scenarios where you end"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "up going down this rabbit hole of really"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "specific descriptors and it's like it"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "can't be anything else. It's it's it can"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "get to really specific things that are"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "really accurate to what you're"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "describing. And I' I've talked to a few"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "of the original um remote viewers and"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "they can do this on a whole other level"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "where they're"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "writing such detail down that"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "which ones did you talk to?"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "Uh McMongle."}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "You talked to him?"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Chris and I went"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "to his house uh a couple years ago,"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "Chris Ramsey, and interviewed him. What"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "a That guy's insane. Like impressive."}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "Insane. Um, crazy stories, too. But"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "there's some there's"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "he still do at that age."}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "Yeah. I don't know if he'll actively do"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "sessions anymore,"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "but he for a while would even past his"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "days where he was working for the"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "government. He would be invited to like"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "these Japanese shows and do it live on"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "TV. Uh, or he'd even help find missing"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "children and things like that."}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "Yeah. And he'd be right. Right. I always"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "tell these remote viewers, I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "\"Why can't you just go figure out and"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "tell us how the pyramids were built?\""}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "Like, that's what we all want to know."}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "We want to know who built the goddamn"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "pyramids. Like, go do that. Tell us."}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "You know, you can go to Mars a million"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "years ago and tell me what was going on."}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "Just tell me what was happening in the"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "Giza desert 3,000 years ago. I want to"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "know. That that's the frustrating that"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "that was and I guess still is the"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "frustrating thing about it is you know"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "it's it can provide really interesting"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "results but at the same time it's"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "so"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "amorphous and like like slippy like it"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "it's not like this"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "definitive like oh tell me what what are"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "you thinking of? Oh it's uh bread you"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "know like I it's not that simple."}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "there's all sorts of caveats and like no"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "it it can't it's got to be um it there's"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "all sorts of requirements for it to work"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "and at first I saw that was you know"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "psychics like"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "talking [ __ ] you know but um I really"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "think that it's just such a"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "like there is an effect there like some"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "psychic effect but I don't think it's a"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "strong one"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "and maybe it has to do with what you"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "said like over thousands of years, our"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "intuitive mind has kind of like"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "atrophied, right? And so what we have"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "hanging on is just like a weak force of"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "it still, you know? Um"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "I wonder if you could train some like"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "unconted tribe in the Amazon to do"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "remote viewing. I bet you they'd [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "kick ass at it."}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "And they have like no knowledge of"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "no knowledge of any kind of any kind of"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "technological society or technology or"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "anything. They're just [ __ ] running"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "around naked with a bow and arrow."}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "Yeah."}]

[{"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "I was going to suggest uh I don't know"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "if you do this kind of thing on your"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "show, but do you want to try a remote"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "viewing session? Like"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "Sure. You you do it?"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "Yeah. Like right now?"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "Yeah. Okay. I don't know if how it'll"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "come out, but we can try it. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "Um you just need a piece of paper and a"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "a pen. You could even do it on your"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "tablet, I think. But"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "so I will choose a photo."}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "And I'll come up with some like task"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "number. And then I'll kind of guide you"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "through. Um, I don't want to guide too"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "much because I don't want it to seem"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "like I'm gu guiding you to the answer."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "Um, or something. Um, but I'll try to"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "come up with a just like framework of"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "what you should try to visualize and see"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "what comes out. Um, give me a second"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "here to find something."}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "This is going to be fun."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "You've never done something like this?"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "Never tried it."}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "okay."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "Okay, I'm gonna save this."}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "Remember when David Mohouse was showing"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "us the Titanic thing, Steve, where he"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "was uh he was pulling up the uh like all"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "the remote points of the Titanic like on"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "the ship and people remote viewing the"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "Titanic sinking."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "Oh wow."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "Yeah, that was pretty nuts."}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "Yeah, like people could like pick they"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "were picking points in time for people"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "to go back to and like remote view like"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "what was happening."}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "Cool."}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "On like like major major historical"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "events, right? like the Titanic, like"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "the the idea that there's like some sort"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "of"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "like like major events like that,"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "there's some sort of like,"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "again, I don't even have the words to to"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "describe this, but like maybe there's"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "more of a connection to those events"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "because there's so many people involved"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "and like,"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "yeah,"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "that is somehow stronger. It's easier to"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "tap into big events like that."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "Yeah, there there's some theories behind"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "that. Uh there's a physicist Ed May"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "who's um got some really cool ideas on"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "this, but his um thought is that things"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "that are have a lot of entropy um tend"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "to be easier to remote view. So think of"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "things like natural disasters or"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "explosions or like a lot of the CIA"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "programs would be trying to find like a"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "down plane or um some kind of like silo"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "with nuclear missiles and stuff like"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "that. And apparently those are like hot"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "spots like Monle would say that. So, um,"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "and that's interesting because entropy"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "is just kind of like"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "essentially the change of information"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "over time, right? So, maybe it all goes"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "back to just like the universe being"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "pure information, right? Everything is"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "out there back in time, forwards in"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "time. Everything is just in this, like I"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "said, substrate substrate of something"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "with all this information and you can"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "just tap in, right?"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "Well, that's one of like the laws of the"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "universe, right? Is that we're bound by"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "entropy."}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like entropy is always"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "increasing."}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "Always increasing, right?"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Um but there are things that"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "have higher entropy like um I guess if"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "you like um have a cup, right? Low"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "entropy, but when it shatters like it's"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "entropy increases because this thing"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "cannot be put back together, right? Like"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "it's just like become"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "more more in disarray, right? Um, so"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "things like that that are heightened and"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "and maybe that"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "kind of plays into these natural"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "disasters or you know something where"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "there's"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "some intensity behind"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "maybe trauma too. Trauma is very tied to"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "Yeah. And it could be also like a like a"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "an emotional entropy too like all these"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "humans together like experiencing this"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "kind of change uh and death and and"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "disaster, right? Maybe that's just like"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "a hot spot for"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "in this timeline of events to like hone"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "in on."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "um 911 there's this crazy I think this"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "was in a Dean Raiden book where"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "a traffic jam of like consciousness."}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. And there's like these"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "spikes right where certain things"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "happen. Um you know before 911"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "wasn't there like the manifests of all"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "the planes were like notoriously"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "uh or not notoriously um weirdly empty"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "compared to normal days. Like there were"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "a lot of like the planes were emptier"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "than they"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "I didn't know that."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "Yeah. um"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "insinuating that maybe a lot of people"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "had an"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "had a feeling a gut feeling feeling like"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "whether it meant they like stayed in bed"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "a little longer and dillydallyed and"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "missed the flight or they purposely were"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "like I'm not going to"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "There we go."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "The four hijack planes of on September"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "11, 2001 were all under booked and flew"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "with passenger numbers well below their"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "capacity."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "Well, it could have been because of the"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "terrorist"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "they chose the flight specifically"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "because of the lower passenger loads"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "would make it easier. Right. Well, how"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "would they know? Uh, maybe they could."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "Maybe there's a way they could know."}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "Would they book it last minute?"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "I think so."}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "The the Boeing 767 had a capacity of 158"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "passengers but was carrying only 81."}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "Yeah, that's an empty plane."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "That's significantly low."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "You never think about that, right? You"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "always kind of think of these back"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "packed planes. cuz I've never been on a"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "flight that's"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "Well, they were all they were also all"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "crossount flights, too, which is why"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "they they picked a they picked cross"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "country flights cuz they knew they'd"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "have to have full tanks."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "Yeah. A lot of fuel, right? Crazy."}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "Allegedly."}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "Anyways. All right. So, I have um a"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "random number here that I generated with"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "Google random number generator for my"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "task number. Okay. So, I have an image"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "chosen. So, I've made this intention."}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "No, no, that I've chosen. It's It's I'll"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "show it to you after we do this. Okay."}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "Um it's on my phone. I saved it as a"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "photo. I said this is going to be the"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "photo that I'm showing Danny after our"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "session. Okay. Right."}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "Um so what you'll do"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "and actually maybe I should just do you"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "have another piece of paper? I'll just"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "uh show you an example. Uh just give me"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "a writing device. So I'll write down I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "just going to do an example. One, two,"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "three, four, five, six. Um and then as"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "soon as I'm done writing this, I'll just"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "put my hand here and and whatever comes"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "out comes out. Okay. And"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "I'll kind of like and I want you to try"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "to do this like hover your finger over"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "this and write two things. Okay. Um kind"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "of a feeling you get from it. Whatever"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "you want to describe and then a gustalt"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "uh and we'll call that just think of it"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "as like a category."}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "I don't want to frontload you here, but"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "just think of just a general don't even"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "try to think what would Nelson choose."}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "Just think of like what am I feeling,"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "right? Don't try to game it. And it's"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "hard to do because you're going to"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "inevitably think like, oh, Nelson sat"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "down and chose a photo. What did he"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "think of? Was it random? Did he think"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "what I was going to think and that's why"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "he chose it? Don't think of that. Just"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "try to feel like, oh, it's it's a this"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "like a general theme."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "General theme."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "It doesn't even have to be right. Like"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "this is just to get things going. Then"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "once you just put that out, um, then I"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "want you to start describing."}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "Can you give me an example of like what"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "that would be? Like a theme?"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "Sure. Um, and we'll maybe keep it in in"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "a general genres here. Um, like it could"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "be a structure. Uh, could be a life"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "form, could be uh a landscape, could be,"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "you know, energy, whatever, something"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "like that. Okay."}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "So, once you do that, uh, then I want"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "you to describe colors."}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "Intuitit what you feel. Uh, sounds,"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "smells,"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "tastes even. And there could be nothing"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "but try it. tastes, dimensions, right?"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "Like shapes of things."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "Um movement,"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "temperatures, stuff like that, right?"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "Sounds. I already said that."}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "Um okay. And then once that's done, a"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "sketch, just whatever. It doesn't even"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "have to match necessarily what you write"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "here, but just whatever your hand"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "decides, whatever's coming to mind."}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "There's a lot of that."}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "It could just be scribble."}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "Yeah. but with a little not so scribbly"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "as this, but maybe try to"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "a little bit more attention to it. Okay."}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "Yeah. And then when you're done, just"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "try write end and that's it."}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "End."}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "End. Like walk me through it again when"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "I do it."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. I'll guide you a little bit."}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "Okay. All right. So, um and maybe make"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "your uh paper vertical just to have a"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "little more room. Okay. So, the number"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "is 556"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "784."}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "And go draw your idiogram."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "Cool. Whenever you stop it, that's fine."}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "And now"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "hover your hand over it and really just"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "try to tap in and think of a feeling it"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "gives you"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "and then a general category. Is it just"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "stalled?"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "A feeling that it gives me. Okay."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "Okay. Just write it down."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "Okay. And then it just salt"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "the category of what it might be."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "Okay. Okay. All right. Now, colors."}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "Write down colors that come into mind."}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "Keep going until there's maybe you're"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "good. You can go on to the next one."}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "Sounds"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "Don't think too hard. Really, just go"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "with it. Nothing's a wrong answer here."}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "Okay. There is a wrong answer."}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "Sounds I don't know."}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "Okay. If it's not coming to you, just go"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "on to something else. Um, smells, uh,"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "shapes,"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "dimensions, movements, anything."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "I feel like I have I something popped"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "into my head that gave me like an idea"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "of what it could be and now I'm kind of"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "like following that."}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "If you get one of those, that's called"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "an AOL, an analytical overlay. So on the"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "side, write AOL and name the thing that"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "you're thinking of."}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "Okay. Put your pen down."}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "Just take a beat. And the point of that"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "is to like get it out of your head cuz"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "it's easy to get stuck on a thing and be"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "like that's what it is. I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "describe it now."}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "And now everything I'm saying is like"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "reinforcing it,"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "And so now the idea is to kind of let"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "that go and go back and just try to see"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "what comes through the stream again."}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "So you can continue. Um"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "just write what? Write anything."}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "Yeah. So you know uh tastes, smells,"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "sounds,"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "um temperature. What's the temperature?"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "You know, is it Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "feelings even that are coming up"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "supposed to be like looking at it."}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "Not even just just just a feeling that"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "comes like if you were to write down any"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "color right now like you're going to"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "write something down. Where does that"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "come from? It's an intuitive thing like"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "it came from somewhere. That's kind of"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "the idea here is that like if you're"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "trying just to write like freehand what"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "comes out like something will come out."}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "Right. From somewhere. Okay."}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "Um, and the more mindless it is, like"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "the more like where did it come from?"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "You know, if if you hit a wall and"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "that's kind of it, then like move on to"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "the sketch."}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "Okay. You do your sketch. Oh, do do a"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "little sketch now."}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "Another sketch."}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "Yeah. This one was just like an idiogram"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "we call it. But then the next one will"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "be more like an intentful sketch,"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "right? You can piece together some of"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "the information that you have if it"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "makes sense."}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "But now you're actually trying to draw"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "something, you know, not just a"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "scribble."}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "Yeah, it doesn't have to be like an"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "amazing piece of art. Just"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "general shapes and"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "structures perhaps or"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "All right. And just write end somewhere"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "on the bottom. Bottom."}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "Voila. All right. Let's see what you"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "got."}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "It's like a bird."}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "All right. And what do you have? You"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "have um so you had life form animal."}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "Then your colors you had orange, white,"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "you had walking, smelling, predator. AOL"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "was your bird. And then what does it say"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "here? Uh what's that? Cool."}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "Cold."}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "Cold."}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "Cold. Red. Evil. Uh good vision."}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "Good vision. Okay."}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "I don't know why. I don't know why."}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "So you you clearly had like a you went"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "down a"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "I went down a rabbit hole."}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "A rabbit hole. This is what it was."}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "Okay. Not even close."}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "How would you rate that on a scale of 1"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "to 10?"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "Zero."}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "Zero. You know, and this is this happens"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "often. Um, and and it's it's hard like"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "to to pull information in without like"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "getting fixated on a thing. And even"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "when you do get fixated on a thing, how"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "do you let that go and just like focus"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "on the stream,"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "right? Um,"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "and sometimes I've done this with people"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "and they have like insane sessions where"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "they're like they drew the thing or like"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "a lot of components matched and I've had"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "other ones that just don't quite, you"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "know, or you look at it and you're kind"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "of like, well, you know, you said white"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "and orange. Well, I mean, the general"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "colors there are white and orange. Is"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "that something"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "interesting?"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "You drew somewhat of a beak there. Is"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "there that maybe like kind of what like"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "if you were tapping in at this into this"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "at all,"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "you know? But then on the flip side, is"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "this just like us trying to fit this?"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "Exactly."}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "You know?"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "And that's where like in a session like"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "this, I really wouldn't give much to it."}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "Um but there's been sessions where, you"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "know, I've drawn the [ __ ] thing and"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "it's like"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "that wasn't a guess, you know, it was"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "the thing."}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "let's try it the other way. Well,"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "I was going to say I'll try one. I've"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "never done it like on the spot, but it"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "should be fair that I try it as well."}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "so yeah, you choose a number or ch you"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "choose a picture. Um, and then find some"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "like six-digit number to give me as a"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "task number."}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "Steve, you have any paper?"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "No, I can get some."}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "Yeah, grab some paper real quick. Um,"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "should I do it on my phone with the"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "generator thing or what?"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "Sure. Yeah. Um, or you can Yeah, I don't"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "want"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "What is it called?"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "What is one called?"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "What do I search for for the uh"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "generator thing? Oh, you can just do"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "like a Google image generator. Um,"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "yeah, I feel like the"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "random."}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "Sure. Yeah. Mhm. The sigh ability works"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "best when there's like no bias."}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "You know, and that's why with the remote"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "viewing stuff, sorry, I'm talking away"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "from the mic. That's why when there's um"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "the best remote viewing projects are set"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "up so that they're like blind, double"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "blind, you know, that's the best."}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "Um when people are like, why don't can"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "you remote view my future? you know,"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "that's that's hard to do because now I"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "suddenly I mean, I don't know much about"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "you, but I know something about you and"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "I,"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "you know, I know you you live here and"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "like I can already I already have it"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "frontloaded with information, so it's"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "not"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "biased at all. Um,"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "but then the question is like, well, if"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "you're psychic, you're psychic. Like,"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "can't you why are there all these"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "limitations? You know,"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "I don't know the answer to that. Um,"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "hand me the pen when you're"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "This isn't going to be much fun for the"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "listeners, right?"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "Okay. This is a random image image"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "generator. Uh AI image generator."}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "Cool."}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "So"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "it's not even"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "generate random AI image."}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "Sure."}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "Oh, great. Enter all your info."}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "Give me your credit card info."}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "Yeah, exactly right. Try this one. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "here's a different one. Okay. Number of"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "pictures, one. Hit generate pictures."}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "Um, I got the picture, but there's no"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "number associated with it."}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "That's fine. You can just make up a"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "number."}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "Write write an a sixdigit number on the"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "paper"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "that you're deciding is going to repres"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "represent this photo."}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "Let me see your pen."}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "Okay. All right. Give it back. Let me"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "just uh give me that number."}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "The number is 767."}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "Yeah. 767."}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "114."}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "114. Okay. So, I'm do it a little"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "different. I'd write my name at the top."}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "Put the date. What is it? October 16,"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "2025."}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "All right. And I'll 6767114."}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "All"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "right. He wrote it down on the piece of"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "paper. Now he's just scribbling [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "On the paper."}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "I'm not going to say anything yet until"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "I get stuff out here."}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "for people that are uh just listening"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "and not watching. He is scribbling stuff"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "on the paper still looks like kind of"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "scribbly words."}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "We'll go over this after I'm done. Um"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "he's writing a lot writing a lot of"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "something. He's not drawing."}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "There's no way he's going to figure out"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "what this image is."}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "Maybe I can show the camera."}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "Is it focused? Steve,"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "can the camera see my image for the"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "audience?"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "Oh, I was on the wrong camera."}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "Uh, no. No,"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "it's blurry."}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "Uh, put your hand. Cover up his No, no,"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "behind it. Cover up his face."}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "Oh, I can't see the I can't see you."}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "It's all right."}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "Oh, yeah. Oh, there I am. Hi,"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "No, they can't. It's not going to It's"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "not going to focus. That's okay."}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "All right. Now, he's writing down a"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "bunch of words."}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "He's tapping into the muse right now."}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "All right."}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "All right. This is stuff that I got. Um"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "Okay. Before you show me, I'll just say"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "what I got. And it's again, I haven't"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "done this in a while. It could be a"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "total whiff, but"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "that's that's the idea. And and you"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "know, I'm sure David Moorehouse does"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "this way more formally."}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "You're talking the mic."}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "Oh, sorry. Yeah. Um, but this is kind of"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "the shorthand version that I do. Um, I"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "don't do it much anymore. Okay."}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "I do it in some cases just to like see"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "if I still have it. And there was a time"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "when I would do this every day. Chris"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "would do it as as well every day. We"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "were training it and we would get better"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "at it. Um, it's one of these skills just"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "like memory where you get better at it."}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "Um, there's actually a phenomenon with"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "it where at the beginning you have"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "insane hits, like really good sessions,"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "and then there's like a falloff. I don't"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "know if it's because you like over start"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "to overthink it or something, this false"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "sense of confidence, but then through"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "practice, you can get"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "back up to"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "better. Um,"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "anyways, I'll I'll stop delaying here."}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "All right. So, some of the colors here"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "were just I don't necessarily do it in"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "order and colors sound smells like that,"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "but I have like black, green, dark uh"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "green, leafy, jungly, wet, damp, rain,"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "overhang. I started to write trees here."}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "Um cuz I had an AOL there, but I wrote"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "that down. Then, reaching up, closed,"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "overarching, bleak, dreary, brown. I"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "wrote down waking, evil, breaking"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "through, flaky. Um, and then I started"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "to try to hone in on some other things"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "here. Uh, filled, damp, evil, low light,"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "empty. Started like, it's just like a"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "very dark kind of, uh,"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "I don't know, scene. Whole tunnel,"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "guided path, black, brown, green, dark"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "shades. Um, that's kind of what I got."}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "And then my sketch, you know, it's not"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "much, but I had some kind of like"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "pathway through something with some like"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "vertical elements to it with some kind"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "of like roof overhang there. I don't"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "know. What do you got?"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "Your you your descriptions were pretty"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "spot-on. That's what it is."}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "Oh, interesting. Okay, let's see."}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "It's a very dark, dreary, dark green,"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "brown, black scene of two crows floating"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "on like a brown suitcase type chest in"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "the ocean."}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "Yeah, I definitely picked up on the the"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "the dreary, the wet, um the overhang"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "being the clouds. Perhaps my sketch was"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "not on par at all. Um but uh"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "yeah, but your descriptive words were"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "very very close."}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. And so yeah. So"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "take that with"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "Can you see this on the camera, Steve?"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "Yeah. Hold it up for your camera. Just"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "poke it right at at your camera. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "I was going to show my screen just so"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "people can see, but or my paper."}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "There we go."}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "Yeah. That's nuts, man."}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "Crazy, right? Okay. So, if I were to"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "grade that, I'd probably say I don't"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "know, like a four or five out of 10. 4.5"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "out of 10."}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "Yeah, dude."}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "But you you as someone watching that"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "felt like I tapped in on something"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "maybe."}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "And so sometimes it's like that where"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "you get elements."}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "Mhm."}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "And and and this again, this was like"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "like back of the napkin version of it."}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "There's many steps like as you get"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "deeper that you start with this and"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "that's like like flirting with the"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "signal, you know, you get pieces of it."}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "There's noise, but you get pieces of it"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "and then"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "you like go bit by bit down certain"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "rabbit holes and pull out more"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "information and by the end of it you can"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "build something a lot more detailed."}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "And you know it even sounds like I was"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "really tapping into like this foresty"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "thing."}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "Even though I because I started with the"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "wet damp thing and that was kind of"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "correct."}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "Yeah. wet damp yet it was in the water."}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "Yeah. Um and so maybe I went too far"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "down the logical rabbit hole my brain"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "was telling me to was that oh it's like"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "a jungly forest with trees and so I"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "wrote down trees try to deal with that"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "and then you try to get back and try to"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "reset"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "that's hard though like I'm not the best"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "at this but pro remote viewers can do"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "that and we'll come up with some really"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "detailed information."}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "It's also interesting that mine was"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "about a bird and like an evil"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "dude. Yeah, maybe you even like"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "maybe I saw the future. you saw your own"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "[ __ ] That can happen too. It's called"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "displacement where you're like memoriz"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "memorizing uh remote viewing the next"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "thing or the the the thing before like"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "it's off set, you know,"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "cuz like maybe you got the signal but"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "you were like off a channel, you know?"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "Right. Right. Right. Maybe I was seeing"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "the future."}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "Dude, that's crazy."}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Cuz what else did you write"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "here? I mean, uh life form animal"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "orange, white, no."}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "Yeah. No orange or white. Um,"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "but even still, the bird is kind of"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "interesting."}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "Yeah. Yeah, the bird was interesting. I"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "don't know why cuz I got I think I got"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "the bird thing from that that I drew"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "like a beak there. Oh, interesting. And"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "that kind of got stuck on that. Look"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "like an eye and a beak."}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Um, I think that all this"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "is, and there's different protocols that"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "different camps of the remote original"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "remote viewers that will do it slightly"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "different. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "I think all you're doing is you're"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "trying to quiet the the the logical mind"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "that's going to just like try to make"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "meaning out of [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "Because when you silence that, that's"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "when you,"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "you know, you're you're you quiet the"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "intellect, your intuition raises. And"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "that's what this is all trying to do."}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "You know, whether I write my name in the"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "corner, you know, focus on the number,"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "like it's all ways for me to just like"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "blank out in a way and just listen to"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "what is just naturally coming to me"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "without thinking."}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "Right? The better you can do that, I"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "think the better you can"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "to quiet your mind."}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "Yeah. Which is sounds so opposite."}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "You're trying to like listen to your"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "mind at the same time, you know? Um"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "Or listen to a signal that's coming into"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "your mind, right? Like to completely"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "shut out the anal shut down like the"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "analytical thinking mind and just like"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "become a blank turn your mind like a"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "blank canvas to receive something else"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "that's there"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "because that's all we do day in day out"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "is we listen to our an analytical mind."}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "We're just always trying to make sense"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "out of stuff, trying to um logically"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "deduce this from that and think things"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "through. But, you know, listening to our"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "gut and our intuition, there's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "value and insight there,"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "you know, and I think that's where this"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "stuff comes through."}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "Yeah, dude. That's super interesting."}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "Yeah."}]

[{"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "There's people out there who say that"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "memory might not might not even be"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "stored in the brain. Have you ever heard"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "this?"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "Oh goodness. This is this is this is"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "what I was hoping to talk about on your"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "show, man. Um I want to hear where you"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "where you've heard this from, but I I'll"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "tell you my experience. So,"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "okay."}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "You know, I learned about this stuff in"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "2009 and just started improving my"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "memory and and you know, I had an"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "experience Yeah. with my first example."}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "I listened to a an audio book and it"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "walked me through an example just like"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "you did in in Joshua Fer's book. I was"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "like, \"Wow, this is cool. It works.\" Um,"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "but over the years as I've tried to be"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "faster and, you know, I've trained the"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "skill down to something that's so"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "automatic for certain things, not every"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "memory task, but like the cards for"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "example, like I would drill that every"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "single day. And sometimes, you know, I'm"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "trying to"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "get down to under 30 seconds to look at"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "a deck of cards in my prime. Uh, I'm not"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "there anymore. But, um, and I'll I never"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "forget this. I my the one time I kept"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "flirting with 30 below 30 seconds. I"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "could get 30 seconds. 84 or 31 seconds,"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "30.12, but never break the 30 second"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "barrier. And one time I did, this was"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "Christmas 2012. And I got 29.74,"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "I believe, as my second my my time. And"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "I was like, \"Oh man, I broke it. I did"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "it.\" And it was such a weird experience"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "because I remember memorizing the deck"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "going like the experience of actually"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "going through the deck memorizing. I was"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "like there was a part of my brain that"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "was like I I'm not actively doing"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "anything right now. Like I don't feel"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "like I'm memorizing anything. I'm just"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "it was like a flow state right from"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "memory."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "And then when it was done I just knew it"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "all. And that was like the first time"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "that I ever felt that I wasn't a part of"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "the memory process that it was like"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "coming from somewhere else"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "you know and I was weird. It doesn't"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "happen all the time, but in these flow"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "states,"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "especially with memory, like with flow"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "state, you know, you're shooting"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "basketball, everything goes in like it's"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "you're just kind of like mindless in in"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "the state, right, of of doing this. But"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "with out of body experience."}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "Yeah. But with Yeah. And but with"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "memory, like it is all about your mind,"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "but being away from your mind as your"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "mind is doing something is a really"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "trippy experience. And so I've in the"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "last five years um we talked about this"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "briefly but I've been more in touch with"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "my spiritual side and and remote viewing"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "and kind of having these sigh"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "experiences and psychedelics and stuff"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "I I'm pretty convinced that I don't"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "think all memory is coming from inside"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "of here that I think it's just a"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "receiver that there's some substrate out"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "there that has all information"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "about everything including my personal"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "memories and things that I've memorized"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "and will memorize and I'm just we are"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "all able to tap in and out of that um to"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "get information"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "to write information you know that's my"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "feeling yes um and with the remote"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "viewing that's why I wanted to talk to"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "you about it because it's"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "I when I visualize things in my memory"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "space it's so similar to how I get a"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "download when I'm remote viewing like"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "the visual space is almost the same so I"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "almost feel like remote viewing is like"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "kind of memory but for things that are"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "non-local or for the future. You know,"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "you've actually done remote viewing."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "Really?"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "Yeah. We We step into that in a moment,"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "but I I was I was curious to hear why"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "you brought that other question up."}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "Well,"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "obviously in the in the book, in the"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "Joshua Fer book, they explain they they"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "they've been doing experiments"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "on rats and I think monkeys where they"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "try to take out pieces of the brain"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "to figure out where memory stored."}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "Right. We've been trying to figure out"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "which part of the brain stores memory"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "there there's all these experiments"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "where we take out different parts of the"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "brain but memory never seems to go away"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "at least long-term memory. There's some"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "parts of the brain, I think the"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "hippocampus, you can take out where"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "short-term memory seems to reset every"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "day,"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "but for the most part, it seems like"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "from all the experiments that have been"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "done, memory is sporadic throughout the"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "brain, like it's like a hologram"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "projected on the entire brain. So as"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "long as as long as like there's enough"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "brain there so you can be a functioning"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "like function and be alive and not"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "paralyzed"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "that you can still remember stuff or at"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "least animals can still remember stuff"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "based on the experiments,"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "And um"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "I think I was listening to Rupert"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "Sheldrake talk about this where um it's"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "basically similar to what you said where"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "he believes that the human brain is not"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "like a hard drive on a computer. It's"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "more like a television set where if"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "you're watching the television, the show"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "you're watching isn't stored on the"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "screen on the television itself. It's"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "being streamed from somewhere."}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "Yeah. Pulled in from the antennas or"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "right"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "Wi-Fi or whatever. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "Right. Which is a compelling idea for"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "sure. But then like the question is how"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "do you explain"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "how do you explain somebody who has"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "played piano their whole entire life and"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "that and can play Beethoven or play"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "every Beethoven song or Bach or whatever"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "it is like flawlessly effortlessly"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "because they've spent hours and days and"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "years doing this stuff right they've"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "spent the time doing that and I can't do"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "that"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "so how do you explain that if it is just"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "a stream"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "yeah of of"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "that you're getting this stream into"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "your brain from some higher level of"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "memory or consciousness or whatever it"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "is. How come only that person who spent"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "all that time practicing it can do it"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "right? No. Well, like why can't you say,"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "\"Oh, I'm going to tap into that and"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "suddenly play Beethoven or Mozart.\""}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "Right?"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "I I don't know. Uh maybe it's not so"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "much about"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "Maybe it's more that that trained person"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "has found the right channel through the"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "practice. Maybe that's what practice is"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "is like honing that connection, right,"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "to the information that's out there"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "and you don't quite know like how to get"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "that channel, but maybe through the"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "practice you get there. I don't know."}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "I don't know how to explain or answer"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "that question. I don't have the answer."}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "Um, just speculation, but um there's"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "there's definitely something that we"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "don't know or can explain about how the"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "memory performs and the brain performs."}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "Yeah. You know, I"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "Yeah, it's a mystery. The morphic"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "resonance thing is interesting too that"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "Sheldrake talks about like and I I also"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "believe this might be in the in the book"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "in the for book but like I think it was"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "whenever the first person broke the"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "record for the the 4-minute mile or did"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "like the 4-minute mile y"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "it was the first time in history anyone"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "had ever done that"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "and then like"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "it wasn't more than a couple months"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "later that people started breaking it"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "all over the world"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "right yeah"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "and it's like the same like when a"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "problem is solved in one part of the"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "world, somebody"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "very soon after solves that problem in a"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "different completely different part of"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "the world, completely disconnected from"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "that person."}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "And um he calls that theory morphic"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "resonance that like there's this"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "resonance that's connected consciousness"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "is somehow connected to these people"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "that they figure something out and this"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "is also connected to like the simulation"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "theory. So like if we are in a video"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "game something gets rendered in one part"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "of the video game it's automatically"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "easier to render here. So it's"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "conserving processing power."}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "Yeah, I love that. Yeah, we we find that"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "same u uh phenomena in memory sports too"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "where with the cards, you know, I"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "couldn't break 30 seconds. Like 30"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "seconds was a barrier for it was like"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "the one minute mile for a long time. And"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "then really"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "some of the Germans uh broke that pretty"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "uh um convincingly and then just like"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "the dominoes fell like everybody was"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "breaking 30 seconds and now well I don't"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "know now maybe like five six years ago"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "it was 20 seconds. since broken"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "and now it's like the 15 to 10 second"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "mark is like the new 1 minute or 4"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "minute mile sorry"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "yeah it's bizarre dude it it really is"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "when you start trying to reconcile"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "things like the simulation and this"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "morphic re resonance stuff and the brain"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "being an antenna"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "to the idea of of memory and like how is"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "it stored because we know I mean just"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "based on those experiments like they I"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "mean I don't think"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "Steve, maybe you can find this, but I"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "don't think there's been any sort of"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "like conclusive science that points to"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "exactly where short-term or long-term"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "memory is stored in the brain. Do you"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "know of anything?"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "I don't know. I I Yes and no. I mean, I"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "think there's certain things that you"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "can pinpoint are being generated here or"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "accessed here, but then I think there's"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "other things where it's like not so"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "clear why or where this is being stored,"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "per se. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "you know, you look at scans of memory"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "athletes using memory techniques in like"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "an fMRI machine and their whole brain is"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "lighting up. You know, it's not just"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "those components that we attribute to"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "memory."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "Um, which is interesting, you know."}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "Yeah. It's really crazy too how there's"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "uh people that have like severe autism"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "or had there was one guy in the book"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "that had like this crazy seizure when he"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "was like four years old and it somehow"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "broke his brain into being like a genius"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "where he could like recall crazy stuff."}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "He could do incredible math experiments"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "in his mind. He was taking equations. He"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "was like somehow like visualizing pi in"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "his mind and he could see it all and"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "like he could recite like the first"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "whatever 6,000 uh digits of pi in his"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "mind because of something."}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "Is this in the book?"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "Yeah. Okay."}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "Towards the end. Yeah. This guy"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "was it um"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "there was a documentary made about this"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "guy."}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "Yes. I know a lot about"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "Daniel something."}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "Yeah. Daniel Tamt."}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "Yeah, that's it."}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "It took me a minute to find a good"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "visual representation, but this I think"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "does good justice. Right. But like what"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "like when was the study done and like"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "did they find out exactly where memory"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "is stored? Like I'd be curious if"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "there's like a conclusive"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "uh summary on this stuff that like"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "scientists agree on."}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "Interesting story. Well, they talk about"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "in the book with Daniel Tam um"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "how"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "he was actually a memory athlete. Did"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "you get to that part? Yeah. There was a"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "little bit of scandal there that um not"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "to say that he wasn't on the spectrum"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "and had some abilities with his memory,"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "but he was in part or maybe more than we"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "think using memory techniques for"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "Okay. So, the AI says no, there is no"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "single definitive conclusion on where"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "memory is stored in the brain."}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "Scientific understanding has moved away"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "from the idea of memory being located in"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "the spec in one specific spot. Instead,"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "memory is a dynamic process involving"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "multiple brain regions and the physical"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "alterca alterations of countless"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "connections between neurons."}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "Wow. Memory is not fixed persists."}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "I mean, it makes sense, man."}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "So, so then wouldn't that make this this"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "picture"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "Yes, that would make that picture"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "Steve. I mean, I think it's"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "saying that some of these parts of the"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "brain are involved, highly involved in"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "these processes, but that's not the the"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "the end of the picture, you know?"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "Well, there was one guy who was like the"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "most studied"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "man in brain science or something who"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "had he had a seizure. It was a different"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "guy who had a seizure when he was young"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "and he had a um"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "what is it called when they take out a"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "part of your brain because you have"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "seizures?"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "Uh yeah. Although they yeah, I don't"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "know the name."}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "A procedure where where they take out"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "part of your brain uh"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "because you're having seizures and that"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "basically broke his short-term memory"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "and he couldn't remember longer than"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "like a few seconds, right? Shortterm."}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "Yes. Short-term memory. But he had like"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "all of his memory before that point."}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "He could remember everything. He would"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "wake up every day. It was like"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "groundhog. Every day was the same day"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "over and over again."}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "Yeah. You know."}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Well, you have people who"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "are well advanced with Alzheimer's and"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "you know there's certain things that"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "will activate their their memory like"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "music for example."}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "Oh really?"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "Yeah. And they suddenly can be lucid in"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "their memories for a few minutes while"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "they experience this nostalgic music you"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "know"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "temporal labbotomy."}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "Oh labbotomy. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "Lobc lobectomy lobectomy."}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "Lbectomy."}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "In 53 he received a bilateral medial"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "temporal labbotomy to surgically reset a"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "part of his brain."}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "That's crazy. Uh oh. Cuz it was he had"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "epilepsy. That's why they did it. Good"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "god, dude. Could you could you imagine"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "getting brain surgery in the"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "50s?"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "Yeah. Primitive that house was"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "he wasn't able to store or form new"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "memories. Um,"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "what a torturous existence."}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "Yeah."}]

[{"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "And there's that guy Simonades which is"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "talked about in the book the Einstein"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "moonwalking with Einstein book who I"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "guess was in like the 4th century or"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "whatever and he was a performer I think"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "and he was like performing music in"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "front of people and then the whole place"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "crumbled and he was trying to like use"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "his visual memory to figure out where"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "people were so he could like pull the"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "bodies out."}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean this the"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "story is somewhat that he stepped out or"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "was summoned outside and then the whole"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "thing crashed all the"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "There it goes. Lyric poet. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "Oh, there you go. Yeah. Um but yeah to"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "come to to identify the dead bodies who"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "had been crushed by this collapsing hall"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "or whatever."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "He imagined the positions of the people"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "at the table, their locations"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "and that spawned this idea."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "Well, I don't know if it necessarily"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "spawned it, but that's the famous story"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "where people talk about this memory"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "palace idea, right?"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "Where by location, you can actually"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "place information and remember it really"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "well because our brains remember spatial"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "information really well. Mhm. Yeah. I"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "did that exercise in the book in the"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "Einstein in the Einstein book and it"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "works phenomenally. Like it's it's it's"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "incredible."}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "So you So the idea is like if you want"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "to memorize something, right? Anything"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "you kind of like break it into chunks."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "And then you basically associate it with"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "a physical location."}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "Yep. So there's a few parts to it,"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "right? First you have the information"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "that you're trying to memorize and it's"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "usually going to be something abstract."}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "you know, in terms of"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "our brains don't really like to memorize"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "numbers and and passwords, right? This"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "is all abstract symbols, right?"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "Generally, so um that in recent times,"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "we've we've they're new. They're new for"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "our brains. Our brains were not designed"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "to memorize stuff like that. It's"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "memorize designed to memorize pictures,"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "visuals that have associations to things"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "that we know."}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "That's one part of it, converting what"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "you're trying to memorize into pictures."}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "The second part is how do you organize"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "that? Where do you place it in your mind"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "so that you can go back and retrieve it"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "in a reliable way? And that's where the"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "memory palace technique comes in so"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "handy because you're placing it or"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "attaching it to a physical location that"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "you know well that you're thinking"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "about. So when you go through your house"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "or palace if you have a palace um you"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "know you have these ordered locations in"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "your house. You walk through your front"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "door then there's the kitchen over here"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "and the stairways whatever. You can"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "attach images for things that you're"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "memorizing on those locations and the"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "location preserves the memory of the"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "order of things and the structure and"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "the organization, right? Which is when"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "people try to recall things and they"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "forget. It's it's not that they forgot."}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "It's really that they can't retrieve it,"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "right? Sometimes they know it's in their"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "mind. They just can't get it out"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "because they didn't have an active way"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "of placing it knowingly in their brain."}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "That's the big problem, right? So when"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "you did these memory competitions, what"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "sort of did you have to remember?"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "And did you have to go around to a bunch"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "of like locations and store stuff"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "in my mind? Yeah. Um, not physically,"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "but uh Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "No, that's what I mean. Like you go to a"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "place and like walk around and be like,"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "\"Okay, I'm going to put this thing"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "here.\""}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "Yeah. You know, as a trained memory"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "athlete, we'll have"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "dozens to a hundred or hundreds of"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "memory palaces, different ones to store"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "different kinds of things. Wow. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "depending on the size of the"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "information, you need more locations."}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "Um, so I have this whole like catalog of"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "memory palaces that I go through."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "Amazing, dude."}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "And on a competition day, yeah, I've got"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "to go through the different ones. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "I'm going to use, you know, my childhood"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "home for this set of numbers. I'm going"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "to use my ex-girlfriend's apartment for"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "this one. Um, a hotel I I stayed in once"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "that was memorable in on this vacation"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "for this set of numbers and whatever."}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "So, how do you organize all of that? You"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "just you just like pick if if let's say"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "let's just say you picked up a book you"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "want to memorize, right? Tomorrow you go"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "and buy a book you want to memorize. So"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "you would say you say how would that"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "process work for you? You would you"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "would read the book and then you would"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "afterwards think of a a location that"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "you haven't already used to store memory"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "and associate it like spend time sitting"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "there working through where to store"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "each memory of each chapter of that"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "book."}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "Right. Yeah. There's a few things to go"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "into that. first is, you know, I have"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "memory palaces that I use for training."}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "When I memorize numbers every day or"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "cards every day, I'm kind of visiting"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "the same ones that are kind of designed"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "for that. But then if it's new"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "information, like say I have a book"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "pllopped on my desk and I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "memorize it, I'm going to create a new"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "memory palace for that specific"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "information. So when I want to recall"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "information from that book, I know it's"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "only in that memory palace that I"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "designed for it. So then the question"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "is, okay, what do I build like or what"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "do I think of? What's the memory palace?"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "I need to decide what is the route. Is"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "it oh well the place first of all is it"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "I mean I can create one on the spot or I"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "could go to a museum and decide oh this"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "will be I'm just going to map this into"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "a memory palace or I can use some place"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "that I've been to that I haven't thought"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "of as a memory palace yet"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "and then I need to know what am I"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "memorizing how much information is there"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "so I know how many locations I need"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "right"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "so that's a big part of mapping out"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "especially a big project like that"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "memorizing a book"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "like am I memor you mean every single"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "word like verbatim or just generally the"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "important things,"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "key ideas,"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "key ideas, stuff that I want to take"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "away, you know,"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "that also depends, right? Like when"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "you're going to memorize something, what"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "are you actually going to memorize? And"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "is it important to memorize everything"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "or can I just, you know, is there"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "certain stuff that I already kind of"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "know or can piece together through logic"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "and the rest maybe are some other points"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "I need to memorize?"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "Deciding that's important, too, before"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "you like go out and waste all this"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "memory palace. um uh real estate on, you"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "know, stuff that actually isn't that"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "important to memorize,"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "right? That's fascinating because I was"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "telling you before we started recording"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "that like sometimes when I'm listening"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "to audiobooks, I can recall like if I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "listening to it driving from here to my"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "house,"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "I'll drive that same route the next day"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "and I'll have that moment pop into my"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "head when I was listening to the audio"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "book right when I drove past like a"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "specific building or something like"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "that. It's so weird that like there"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "there is a legitimate association that's"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "like hardwired into us with physical"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "locations and like learning stuff."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. And it's the same with"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "music, right? Imagine the first time you"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "heard this album that so important to"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "you. You can be right there like I know"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "where I was when I first heard this or"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "you have these strong memories of when"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "you were blasting that song or who you"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "were with. You know, it's it's something"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "about music. I think it goes way back"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "past simodities that as humans generally"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "we are you know our brains are"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "storytelling machines through stories"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "and music and poetry and and and beats"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "and rhythm that's how we remember things"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "that's how we were able to survive and"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "pass on ideas which is ultimately how we"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "were able to survive right until modern"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "day now we don't need to do that"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "um but that's how we had to"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "Isn't smell also like super hardcore"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "linked with memory"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. I I"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "I think that was like the most the sense"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "that is the most commonly associated"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "with memory, right?"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "Yeah. I was Who was I just talking to"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "about this? Um I was training somebody"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "and they were asking me Oh."}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "Oh, the memory champion can't remember"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "something. Look at this."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "I I I forget. I do forget. Uh you can"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "ask my wife. She's uh the the one that"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "can attest to that the most. But um but"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "no, we were talking about how she was"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "like, \"Oh, I've heard that me memory is"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "really strong for for for a smell is"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "really strongly related to memory.\" And"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "I was like, \"Yeah, yeah, it is.\" Um and"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "she was saying, \"Oh, if I can just turn"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "my images that I'm memorizing into"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "smells, then I'll remember it faster or"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "better.\" And I was like, \"In theory,"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "yes.\" And and and smell memory is so"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "potent. I mean, if you get a whiff of"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "something from say your kindergarten"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "class, like"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "there used to be these like letter"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "boards um from when I went to"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "kindergarten, I guess. And I remember"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "years ago I I came across the same thing"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "and I was like, \"Wow, what a nostalgic"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "thing.\" And I sniffed it and I was like,"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "you know, in the Matrix, just teleported"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "teleported. I was there, right? And I'm"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "sure many people have had a similar"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "experience. Yeah. Um, but"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "if I were to ask you to just imagine,"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "I don't know, a certain smell like um I"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "mean there's certain polarizing smells"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "like smoke you could probably imagine,"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "right? The smell of smoke."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "Mhm."}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "But in terms of your imagination right"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "now, if you're thinking about it, it's"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "kind of elusive. Like you can describe"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "it. Yeah. It's like a a bitter smoky"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "smell. But"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "are you really experiencing it in your"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "mind when you when you imagine a smell?"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "probably not"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "versus if I said, \"Hey, picture an"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "elephant.\""}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "You can almost see the elephant,"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "right? So, the smell thing, I think, is"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "super powerful when you can get it to"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "hit like you get the experience, but"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "like to actually conjure it up in your"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "memory is difficult because"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "you have to have the right words to"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "describe it and it's it's not like a"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "like a true visceral experience when you"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "imagine it in your your your visual"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "space, you know?"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "Yeah. You can't just like pull that up"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "at will like that smell, you know?"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "Yeah. Like I remember I remember"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "thinking about this years ago when I was"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "just starting memory stuff and I had"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "gone to wash my hands. I had this soap"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "that smelled really like Marzy panny and"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "I loved marzipan and I went back to my"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "table and I was like I wonder if I could"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "like try to generate that smell in my"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "mind and it had gone you know it's like"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "I couldn't I could say it was Marzy pan"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "smelling but that was it. You know it's"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "just like"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "but if I had smelled it again it's like"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "oh yeah there it is. You know, I I don't"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "know what it is about smell that makes"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "it so elusive in that way,"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "with"}]

[{"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "you you did another documentary uh that"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "was on Netflix that was about social"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "media and kids influencer kids."}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "Can you explain what that was about?"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "Yeah, that was called um Bad Influence"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "and it was a documentary um that was"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "directed by uh Jenna Rocher and and"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "Keith Davidson"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "um and they did a great job. Um I"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "produced it. Um it was this look at a"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "particular"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "uh social media influencer, huge social"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "media influencer called Piper Raquel,"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "kind of a kid influencer. And um what it"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "sort of looked at was, you know, you"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "think that there's this world that's"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "it's for kids, it's harmless, it's just"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "harmless fun. Um but what you really"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "start to see is that this is a world uh"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "that is not kid-friendly."}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "uh that has a lot of problems inherent"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "in it. I mean I personally think that"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "social media is a huge huge problem not"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "just for kids but for everybody today. I"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "think it's completely messed up our uh"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "information environment"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "and there's horrible information hygiene"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "because of it. Um but so this this was a"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "bunch of Piper Raquel had a squad um of"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "kids with her. They all kind of joined"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "together and they would make prank"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "videos and all this kind of stuff. And"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "um their mo um Piper's mother Tiffany"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "uh Raquel was kind of the mamaager of"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "all these kids. And so it's really a"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "story of um abuse."}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "Uh you know, these kids were made to"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "work all the time. They were kind of"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "pitted against each other. They uh"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "received no schooling."}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "Um and you know, it's just just this"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "kind of like almost cultlike world in"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "which these these children fell. And"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "again, you know, it's one of these"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "situations where you have that kind of"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "money like, you know, a 11-year-old kid"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "uh making,"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "you know, couple hundred grand a month."}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "What?"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "Yeah. I mean, there's there's uh there"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "are a lot of incentives that kind of go"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "ary."}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "So, um I I mean I do I do think that"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "generally speaking"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "the uh I think generally speaking social"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "media is a terrible thing for"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "uh children."}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "I think that it is uh"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "largely can be largely unhealthy for"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "adults who can't mediate but for kids I"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "mean you know it's undeniable that it is"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "designed to be addictive. you know"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "that's just undeniable."}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "Um it is uh unpoliced"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "largely and while many of the companies"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "claim that they have the safety of"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "children at heart or that they have you"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "know dedicated safety teams and all this"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "stuff, the reality is that anytime that"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "safety uh or mental health um butts up"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "against you know the need to have"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "viewers and you know time spent on site"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "that always wins out and please"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "shareholders."}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "Yeah, I mean it always it always wins"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "out. So, for example, um you know, one"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "of the most this is crazy to me. I have"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "an 11-year-old daughter who does no"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "screen time except for like on the"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "weekend, you know, we'll watch some"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "movies or whatever."}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "Um and it's funny because that is, you"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "know, that's sort of a radical"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "thing."}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "Yeah. But then I look at it and go like,"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "you know, I mean, really, if you"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "understood what's going on, most parents"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "would think like, oh yeah, that that"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "makes sense. I mean, you wouldn't give"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "your kids cigarettes, you know, not"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "giving your kids cigarettes is not a"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "radical thing. I think not giving your"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "kids social media is similar. So anyway,"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "the documentary that we did um you know,"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "Bad Influence was kind of one one view"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "into you know what one part of that"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "world kind of looks like. And you know"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "there was this really interesting thing"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "like so these are this was a girl who at"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "the beginning was I want to say 10 years"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "old when she started"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "you know and"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "now I mean this is like you can see the"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "algorithm pushing the behavior and the"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "content. So as she got a little bit"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "older, everything became more sexual"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "because it gets more. So at 16, you"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "know, she is now on you, she was kind of"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "demonetized by YouTube."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "Um, but then she's on a thing called"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "Brand Army."}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "Was on a thing called Brand Army. And"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "Brand Army was unbelievable to me"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "because in order to be a creator on"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "Brand Army, you could be 13."}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "Okay? So you can be 13 and be a creator."}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "You must be 18 to be a consumer. So de"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "facto"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "you have adults consuming Yes. consuming"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "minor content, right? And this minor"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "content took the form of uh in the case"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "of Piper, you know, private uh"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "subscriberonly"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "hot tub shoots, you know, and this is a"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "like a 16-year-old girl."}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "Uh you know, all kinds of bikini shoots,"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "all this kind of stuff. You could DM"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "this person, all this stuff. And I go,"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "\"How is this possible?\" You know, how is"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "this okay?"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "And some, you know, somehow"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "is this still their policy? Um, I think"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "that they I you know, when I talked when"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "I talked to the um to the founder and"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "the CEO, he sort of said, \"Yeah, it's"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "just it's such a big pain for us. We're"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "going to stop accepting this.\" But"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "really, it was kind of like it just felt"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "like uh"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "really it was just more hassle than it"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "was worth was kind of what he was"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "telling me. More hassle than he was"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "worth. But I mean that's the kind that's"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "the kind of thing where you sort of go"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "like how how is this okay?"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "How is this not um"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "better how is this not better known? How"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "is this sort of you know just sliding"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "by?"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. I mean yeah that's crazy."}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "That that should absolutely be loud."}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "And I think that that's pretty much how"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "for kids anyway. I mean, let's leave"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "adults aside for now, but for kids, that"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "is the world that um, you know, is"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "social media."}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "And it's crazy, too, just the culture we"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "live in because you have the most"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "children today, young kids say when you"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "ask them what they want to do when they"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "grow up, they want to be a YouTuber or a"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "Tik Tocker or something like this."}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "Yeah. I mean, and I tell and the thing"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "is that parents don't, even"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "well-intentioned parents, you know,"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "don't realize this. They go, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "that's a kids. Oh, that's kids, right?"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "that's YouTube kids or that's whatever"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "that's a kid's game and you know um but"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "anything that has messaging I go here's"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "what you just did you gave your kid a"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "phone"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "you publish their private phone number"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "on the internet and you allowed anybody"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "anywhere in the world who wants to to"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "have private conversations with them"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "would you be okay with that I doubt it"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "no"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "I mean I doubt it"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "so that's that's kind of what you've"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "allowed you know, and um it's a very"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "difficult thing. It's a very difficult"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "thing is you got kids, you know, it's a"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "very difficult thing to say to your kid."}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "You know, everybody in my class has a"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "phone. Sorry, you're not going to get a"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "phone, right? You can have a, you know,"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "there's this thing called tin can. I"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "don't know if you've seen it, but"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "it's basically um a Wi-Fi version of a"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "landline. So, huh,"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "you can't text, you can't surf the"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "internet, you can't do anything other"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "than make phone calls. So, you want to"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "talk to your friends? Awesome. Be my"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "guest. Call your friend, chat, whatever"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "you want."}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "That's it. That's what I did when I was"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "growing up. That's what you did when you"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "were growing up,"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "right? Yeah. I would I would be lucky to"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "have a pager when I was growing up."}]

[{"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "We're going to talk about Pollock and"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "the CIA."}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "Sure. So, you you know a little bit"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "about this topic, it sounds like, but um"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "some of it is I think uh overblown"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "and some of it that some people make a"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "little too much out of it. That's my"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "personal opinion. But um so I started"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "looking at this because because of my"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "book con artist and because of the James"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "Stunt investigation."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "Uh I have been contacted by some"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "collectors who will say, \"Look, I'm"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "thinking about buying this piece or you"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "know, I've been introduced to this"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "piece. What do you think?\" think, you"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "know, use your investigative"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "chops or whatever and see if see see"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "what you can find out about this thing."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "Does it seem real or does it seem uh you"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "know, potentially fake? So, a person"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "brought to me a pollic purported"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "Pollock, not in the catalog. There are a"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "lot of fake Pollocks out there. There"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "are a lot of really bad fakes. There are"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "some pretty good ones. Um but so he"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "brought me this pollic that had been in"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "Switzerland and it came out of"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "Switzerland. It had a provenence behind"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "it that it showed up in Switzerland in"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "the early 50s, mid50s. It had been in"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "some prominent families in Switzerland"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "and it had some marks on it from the US"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "consulate and a couple of people. So I"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "started looking at this, you know, what"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "what could this thing be? And you know"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "it turns out that um in the post-war"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "period"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "um the you know there was a cold war on"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "and it was really for the hearts and"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "minds of people"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "propaganda war."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "Yeah. Exactly. It was a propaganda war"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "and and some of the main propaganda war"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "was being fought for the hearts and"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "minds of intellectuals."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "So, you know, the Soviet Union was"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "saying like, look what Western"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "democracies wrought,"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "you know. So, what we need is a world"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "where the artist is"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "working for the greater society and is"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "doing basically like a political act"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "which is for the people."}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "And so what Americans wanted to show was"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "like, no, really our method is the best"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "whereby we let people be very free."}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "Yes."}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "And you just can do whatever you want."}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "You can be a leftist, you can be on the"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "right, you can do whatever, but our"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "society says it's we get better, richer,"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "smarter, happier when we give people"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "freedom. And so"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "the CIA wanted to counter kind of like,"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "you know, Soviet realism with an art"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "form that would appeal to these people."}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "And they looked at abstract"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "impressionism, expressionism, like, you"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "know, what Jackson Pollock was doing."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "And they're like, well, here's this"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "artist. He's a leftist. He's kind of a"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "cowboy kind of guy. You know, he's from"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "Wyoming. He's a big drinker, masculine"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "guy. And he does these paintings that"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "are so free they don't even have to mean"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "anything. They're they don't represent"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "anything. They're not impressionists."}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "These are not Here's an impressionistic"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "view of a landscape. They're just like"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "pure expression."}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "Can you find a photo of Jackson Pollock,"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "Steve? I've never actually looked at a"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "photo of him."}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "Yeah. He's he's from Wyoming originally"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "and was, you know, kind of like a cowboy"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "kind of guy before he came to New York."}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "That's interesting."}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "Yeah. He was like a He drank too much,"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "but I mean he died because most of the"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "best artists do."}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "Um but you know, he was like like a a"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "heavy drinking, masculine, tough guy"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "sort of sort of vibe."}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "And so they thought, okay, well, you"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "know, we need to push these paintings."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "And their initial steps at kind of"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "pushing modernism were really terrible"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "and hamfisted."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "And there were all these senators who"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "came out and said like, \"Hey, your"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "taxpayers bought this crap. Your"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "taxpayers bought these crappy paintings"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "and brought them around and stuff.\""}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "So the CIA said, \"Hey, if we're going to"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "do this, we're going to have to do this"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "kind of on the on the down low.\" And"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "what they did was they set up all of"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "these foundations and stuff that were"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "really CIA um fronts to support gallery"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "shows and symposiums and magazines and"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "newspapers and stuff like famously the"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "uh Paris Review um was uh a CIA front"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "and founded by these things and what's"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "what I found. So anyway, I started doing"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "a lot of research about this particular"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "Pollock painting and I went and looked"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "in the archives of MoMA and Crystal"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "Bridges and at the Pollock Foundation"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "out in Long Island and stuff and you"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "know, you kind of I kind of started"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "looking at all of the communications"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "um between all of these people and I"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "mean there isn't anything that crazy"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "nefarious in my mind"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "here. Um but uh you know they just kind"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "of they just kind of started pushing"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "this as much as they could"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "um but without really"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "kind of telling anybody that it was the"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "the government that was behind this"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "stuff. And what was really interesting"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "to me was"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "because these people were fundamentally"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "against the government and the wars and"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "everything that was going on. Ye"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "Yes. So you could you could kind of show"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "like somebody like Jackson Pollock he's"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "a leftist. He's, you know, he's a guy"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "who"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "anti-CIA probably."}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "Yes. Yes. Um, and so you could, you"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "could use him. And I don't think he was"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "in on this and I don't think there was"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "any big, you know, hey guys, uh, okay,"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "Jackson, we're calling you in for a"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "meeting and this is what we're going to"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "do. It wasn't like that at all."}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "You'd be a useful idiot."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "Yes."}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "As I am, as we all are."}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "But um what was kind of interesting was"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "if you look at all of the people who"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "founded the Museum of Modern Art and um"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "the foundations that were related to"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "them, almost all of them were wartime"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "intelligence operatives. So, you know,"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "they were in intellectuals. They were"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "not out there, you know, trudging with"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "guns through trenches. They were"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "fighting uh a cultural war during the"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "war and afterwards. and they just kind"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "of kept doing that um uh as as they went"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "forward. So the Museum of Modern Art"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "formed what was called the international"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "program and that international program"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "sort of took money and funneled it into"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "these different organizations that then"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "put on shows um by Pollock. So, what I"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "end up when what I ended up finding with"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "um my painting that I was looking at"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "was, you know, there's a pretty"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "plausible case for this being um one of"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "those paintings that ended up going over"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "to Europe and then ended up through"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "Switzerland"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "um through the console. So they were"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "using governmental agencies like the"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "consoles and stuff to put these thing to"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "put these shows on to receive the"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "paintings. And you know there are like"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "letters where somebody's like hey I want"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "to know the price of these paintings"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "that were in this show and they're like"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "well why don't you just ask the"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "consulate? So it was very much kind of"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "like this governmental you know like why"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "does the consulate have the prices of"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "these Jackson Pollock paintings that"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "appeared in this show in Paris? Um, and"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "it's because they were kind of, you"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "know, using using this soft power um,"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "stuff. So, I don't I don't think it's a"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "big um,"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "cloak and dagger, you know, uh, spy kind"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "of situation, but I think it's just"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "another one of these kind of soft power"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "governmental things. But what I found, I"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "mean, the thing is kind of interesting"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "is there is a very plausible case for"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "this painting. And I, as a person who"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "likes evidence, goes, that's great. I"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "can make up a story about anything."}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "But now, let's go take a look at this at"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "at the actual what paint is there? Is"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "this wood from the period? Is this paint"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "real? You know, because Jack the the one"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "thing that's cool about Jackson Pollock"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "is that somebody had the brightest"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "because he painted on the floor. He had"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "just unstretched canvas, just cloth on"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "the floor, and he would drip paint on"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "the floor and use sticks and things to"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "kind of spatter paint and whatever."}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "The studio has all kinds of paint on the"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "floor,"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "So, a few years ago, somebody went took"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "samples of all that paint and did what's"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "called"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "on the floor. Oh, his studio is still"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "intact."}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "Yes. Wow."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "Yes. So, they went and they took all"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "those paint samples and they did what's"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "called ramen spectroscopy. It's an"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "imaging thing that gives you basically"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "signatures of elements. So you can go"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "chemical makeup or whatever."}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "Correct. So you can go, okay, well this"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "paint in this painting that I'm looking"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "at has the exact same paint as the paint"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "that's on the studio floor. And they"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "also did that analysis on a couple of um"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "known Polloc paintings. So one of them"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "is called Alchemy 1A. Yeah. There you"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "go."}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "That's wild, dude."}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "So you can you can do that. So I have"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "been working with a uh a well-known"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "university laboratory that does you know"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "kind of Nobel"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "um level research not related at all to"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "art because I wanted to go to I wanted"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "to go to a place that did not deal with"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "art"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "because for a lot of reasons. Yes. uh"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "one of them being that you know it's my"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "impression that you can"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "in some places buy the result you want."}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "So I didn't want to have any bias or any"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "you know kind of previous knowledge or"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "any you know these people don't care"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "about this. It's it's an art thing. It's"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "interesting to them but it's not what"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "they do. So they can look at it in a"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "dispassionate way and at every to much"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "to my surprise at every step it kind of"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "keeps going forward. Yes, it matches the"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "paint. Does the blue match? Yeah, the"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "blue matches. Does the red m Yeah, the"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "red matches. It matches the floor and it"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "matches alchemy 1A or whatever. And so"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "you keep going forward and then you know"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "you do this radiocarbon dating."}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "Yeah. So, and the thing that's"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "interesting about radiocarbon dating is"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "that because there was a lot of um"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "nuclear testing starting in the late 50s"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "and to the 60s,"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "um there's a very specific signature"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "from that blast of stuff that was, you"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "know, it's not present in stuff that"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "started that that came earlier."}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "Interesting. So if you find if you do"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "radiocarbon and you're looking for"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "isotope 14, carbon 14 if you're looking"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "for carbon 14 and it's not there then it"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "probably predates and then they stopped"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "at"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "anything. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "Like any anything"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "mo most stuff I I think again no expert"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "but you can do it on paint, you can do"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "it on linen, you can do it on the wood"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "um of the stretcher bars and stuff. But"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "what's also interesting is that you can"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "um because they then stopped testing, it"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "kind of died off, right? So depending on"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "where that level of carbon 14 is, you"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "can sort of say, well, I think that's"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "probably 1962 to 1964."}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "In our case, the painting is, you know,"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "supposedly from um 4849."}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "So if you find evidence of lots of"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "nuclear testing, couldn't have been,"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "right? because that would have been"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "after. So, it's really interesting that"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "you can do all of these things, you"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "know, whereas before you would just kind"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "of say"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "as an expert, yes or no. Now, you can"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "actually do all of these things which"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "are, you know, kind of irrefutable"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "science. So, I went and I did all the"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "stuff that I know about and, you know,"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "yes, this kind of makes sense. Here's"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "all this evidence. Here's notes saying"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "that these paintings were sent from"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "Switzerland from France to Switzerland."}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "were sent to the consulate and all this"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "kind of stuff"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "that gets you somewhere there, right?"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "But then when you really look at the"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "paint, all that other stuff, that's, you"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "know, that's kind of where the rubber"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "hits the road. But,"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "but and here's art. Here's where art is"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "interesting. A lot of people will tell"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "you like that's all well and good."}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "That's fine. However,"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "if the experts with connoisseurship"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "their eye"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "don't like it, good luck, you know. Good"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "luck. Just be Yeah. Despite having all"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "the evidence,"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "no matter how much scientific data you"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "have."}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "Good. Yeah. Good luck."}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "Have the people connected to the"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "institutions."}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "Yeah. The the nod."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "Yeah. And also because I think part of"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "that is um you know, I think it's good"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "to have like all of it. All of it. But I"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "think there's also some reluctance on"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "the part of some institutions to say"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "like yes okay you you did not use us in"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "any part of this or you did not sort of"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "get our okay"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "so therefore we are withholding"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "the man named Uncle Monday, but he was"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "apparently this legendary conjure man"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "and he was captured in Africa way back"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "in the day. But he was a active"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "practicer of called hudoo."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "Hudoo,"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "not voodoo. Hudoo. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "it's a combination of African herbal"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "medicine, Bible verses in European folk"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "magic. But he apparently was able to"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "communicate and talk to crocodiles when"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "he was in Africa."}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "Wow. and he was enslaved in South"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "Carolina and he escaped to Florida,"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "joined the Siminal tribe and they taught"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "him their local magic of communicating"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "with alligators. Legend has it that he"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "was so good at harnessing these"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "entities, these spirits that he would"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "literally transform into an alligator."}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "It was like the ceremony that they did"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "and said that his leg shortened, his"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "skin turned to scales and his voice"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "thundered. Alligators rose from the"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "swamp to greet their new king. So they"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "call him Uncle Mundday, king over the"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "alligators. Then Uncle Mundday walked"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "across the water in flowing robes with"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "an army of alligators behind him and he"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "said, \"I will never be captured or"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "killed by a white man. So I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "become a gator until all the violence"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "between the white men stops.\" So legend"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "has it"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "he's still out there."}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "Uncle Monday is still a gator somewhere"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "in the swamps in Florida."}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "My goodness, dude. That's a fun story."}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "That's a terrifying story."}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "Yeah. But as a huge folklore, even like"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "within the Native American tribes, like"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "this African man could literally"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "transform into an alligator and he"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "controlled all the gators. like he was"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "the king of alligators."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "For the first time in human history,"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "there are mosquitoes in Iceland."}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "Oh no."}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "Scientists are like, \"We have no idea"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "how they got here. How they're how they"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "got there? Also, how they're surviving.\""}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "Yeah. Bill Gates is up to something,"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "dude."}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "Don't you think they're going to take us"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "out?"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "We're experiencing that polar shift,"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "dude."}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "Or they're genetically modifying"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "mosquitoes so they can live in any"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "climate."}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "Maybe"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "they're the new cockroach."}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "Maybe you can't kill them."}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "Freaky though."}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "Super freaky."}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "Which I will say, everything's been"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "weird this year. We say that every year,"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "but"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "I know it."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "But if you look at because you know like"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "the the polls shift, it affects weather,"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "ecosystems,"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "ecosystems. And if you look at this"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "year's hurricanes, dude, they are taking"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "that same track. They're not hitting the"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "US."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "I mean, let's not pretend that bugs"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "being modified, weather manipulation,"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "all this stuff isn't happening and isn't"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "real. It's been in the books, in"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "courtrooms, documents, CIA, FBI, all"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "this stuff. It's happening. And so, we"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "just don't know what we're going to be"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "reading about in 30 years. is like, \"Oh"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "yeah, in 2025 they were doing this, they"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "got caught and that and they, you know,"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "the documents got declassified later"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "on.\" It's like we we're living in things"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "that we don't even know. We're"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "surrounded by it."}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "And it's if it is being manipulated,"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "you're playing with people's lives"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "and it's crazy."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:01", "text": "Um, Mount Cyani. Did you guys hear"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "what's happening with Mount Si?"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "Not one bit."}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "No."}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "Crazy. All right."}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "So, St. Catherine's Monastery. So, one"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "of the oldest continuously operated"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "Christian monasteries in the world,"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "founded in the sixth century. And it's"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "also a UNESCO World Heritage site."}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "Of course."}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "What is that?"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "Remember we talked about the um go back."}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "Okay, got it."}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "Like all these places, they're UNESCO"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "World Heritage. Got it. Okay. which I"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "think in the broad terms it's a good"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "thing, right? It protects it."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "It's just weird that it's like this one"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "world"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "whatever."}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "and who actually owns it?"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "Yeah. But this monastery has uh its own"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "ancient library, manuscripts, uh"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "religious significance in lands,"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "gardens, vineyards, chapels,"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "uh that have been used for, uh by monks"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "for centuries. Like it's at the base of"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "Mount Cyani."}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "Cool."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "On May 28th, 2025,"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "uh the Egyptian Court of Appeals issued"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "a decision uh concerning 71 parcels 71"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "parcels of land associated with the"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "monastery. Um so basically the"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "government of Egypt has now taken over"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "the land surrounding the monastery, even"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "land that the monastery owns"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "and they're building malls,"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "shopping centers. They even"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "uh Yes. So, it's a large-scale"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "development plan called the Great"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "Transfiguration Project."}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "Pardon?"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "Sounds like Heresy to me."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "This includes luxury hotels, villas,"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "shopping areas, infrastructure, visitor"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "centers, uh possibly cable cars, etc. Uh"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "built around Mount Si."}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "So, wait, how does this work with like"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "the historic significance of the site?"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "That's the battle right now because it's"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "what is"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "there's some like legal stuff that um"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "Egypt's like well this hasn't happened"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "so we're actually claiming this land"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "now."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "What what is Zahi Has's actual"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "affiliation with this project?"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "Oh, I don't think anything."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "Nothing at all."}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "No, he's just the anti antiquities guy."}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "Is that his title?"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "So he wouldn't have anything to do with"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "Not that I'm aware of."}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "The historic sites in Egypt. Now does"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "the world economic form"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "they might"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "own this land is like this like this"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "place as well like you know how they do"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "with the goc leepe like"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "um I don't"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "they overall"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "I don't know I don't the UNESCO which I"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "don't know if that's associated with the"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "world economic forum"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "interesting"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "how can they do that"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "well this is"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "so they're just forcing it like they're"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "like they're taking it over"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "yeah and they've already um they've"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "removed a ton of historic stuff around"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "like demolished it"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "no And they relocated graves"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "around this monastery for car parking"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "lots."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "My gosh."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "Oh my gosh."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "Awful."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "And so Greece right now"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "is miffed."}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "They're back and forth with Egypt like"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "what are you doing? Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "So the Orthodox church is like all up in"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "arms like we we can't just"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "this is like since the sixth century"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "this has been here"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "and they're just like h we're going to"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "build them all. You know what says"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "transfiguration to me?"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "Hotels."}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "that's crazy, man. Like that's that's"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "not okay. And I I think like the fact"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "that they're already doing it like"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "proves that like one, it's too late."}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "Even if they back down now, it's like"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "you've ruined it. And also"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "I wouldn't be want to stay in one of"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "those hotels or park my car anywhere"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "near that. It's like that's"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "bad. Guju. Well, I will say there's a"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "guy on Blurry Creatures a couple months"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "back who"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "fullon believes that that Mount Si that"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "everyone thinks is Mount Si is not the"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "actual Mount Si."}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "How can they make that mistake?"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "Um I think just it's how do you explain"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "it? The Mount Si that they think is"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "Mount Si is viewed as a holy mountain"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "with the Muslims as well. Like Muslims,"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "Christians obviously, and Jews"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "obviously,"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "but um I think it's just been passed"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "down like, oh, this is the mountain."}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "But he like went to this other mountain"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "that is speculated that could have been"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "Mount Si and he found like petetroglyphs"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "and stuff that like look like they match"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "up with stories from Exodus."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "Really fascinating stuff. And even this"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "whole like like altar thing, it was"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "really cool. You guys should go listen"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "to that episode."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "Decoy Mountain. Nice."}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "Isn't it kind of like based on historic"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "record of proximity to cities? Like I"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "think"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "he was asserting that another mountain"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "made more sense with other historic"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "documents."}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "Yeah. He talked about like Elijah. There"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "was like one or I think it's like Elijah"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "like walked from here to there and it"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "took this long. It would make sense for"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "this other mountain, not the one that"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "everyone's calling Mount Si. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "Regardless, there's a monastery there"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "that's been there since the sixth"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "century"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "and graves and just history and they're"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "putting up luxury hotels."}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "Yeah. That's I mean it just reminds me"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "of the meme of like people when they"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "take really picture pretty pretty"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "pictures of nature and like it's like"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "man what a how cool would it be just to"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "have a Walmart right there and it's like"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "I don't know man it's crazy that's so"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "sad like cuz it's"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "I mean that's kind of just the beautiful"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "part of it and just reading the desert"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "fathers like just how like that that"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "refuge that they have like that is their"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "belonging like that's their home"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "and so it's just like to take that away"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "just because you want to profit is"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. Crazy."}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "Ninjas are butterflies."}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "Did I say ninja? I meant butterfly."}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "The butterfly is no doubt one of"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "empty your mind. You were martial arts."}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "The Lou Heist, please."}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "October 19th. It was just a normal day"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "in Paris, France. These dudes, they"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "dress up as construction workers and"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "they had a truck with a cherry picker"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "ladder on it. They pull up to the Lou."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "They go up there and bust in a window,"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "go in there, and they literally have"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "grinders with like the diamond plates on"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "it and cut the glass where all the"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "necklace and the jewelry and stuff were."}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "Take it, get down. They try to set their"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "truck on fire and then they just got on"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "the little scooters and took off."}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "City scooters. Yeah, they did catch two"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "people that were involved in it,"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "arrested them."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "Apparently, they're the guys allegedly."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "They still don't know where all the"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "jewels are, and they did it within"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "minutes."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "And they were aware of a certain blind"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "spot with the surveillance cameras, so"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "they had to have known. And it's kind of"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "exciting. I don't know if that's right"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "of me to say that,"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "but I think it's crazy exciting. It was"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "like an Oceans movie."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "I'm not condoning it, but golly, of all"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "the crimes to commit."}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "if you had to choose just one jewelry"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "heist for museums, not a bad one. I"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "heard they weren't actually Josephine's"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "jewels. They were his second wife."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "Second wife, which is I mean like if"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "anything needs to be preserved, it's"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "Josephine because she's an icon."}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "Yeah. Second wives don't count."}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "Correct. Shout out to"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "Not to God."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "That's not true. We don't feel that way."}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "That's a joke."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "It's a comedy show. Come on."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:01", "text": "Have you heard about this?"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "This is crazy. The FBI just did a bus on"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "a ring of NBA players, NBA coaches in"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "the Italian mafia for fixing games."}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "Stop it right now. What do you mean?"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "Darren Jones, Terry Rosier, and then"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "Chanty Bills. People are going back and"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "looking through all of these games that"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "were super super weird. I mean, you have"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "guys who told people that he would fake"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "an injury, but you're even going back to"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "game one of the finals with the"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "Cavaliers and I think it was Golden"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "State. The guy gets a rebound. Seconds"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "left and he runs instead of taking a"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "shot or going toward and passing it to"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "LeBron. He runs out and holds the ball"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "and lets the time run out. And then"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "LeBron's looking at him like, \"What are"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "you doing?\" But guess who the assistant"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "coach of that team was at the Cavaliers"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "that time? Darren Jones."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "Shoot, dude."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "So, dude, this is so much deeper than we"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "know. So much more people are involved."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "I guarantee it. How could you not"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "with the Italian mafia? The dude's"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "making millions upon millions of dollars"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "a year and he's doing it for $50,000 of"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "winnings."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "Probably cuz they're in debt."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "In debt or you're addicted to gambling"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "or it's just greed."}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "It sounds like an in debt thing if it's"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "with the Italian mafia."}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "Yeah, it sounds like"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "big slick game. I bet your foot's going"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "to hurt tonight, huh?"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "Yeah. What size of shoes you got? I got"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "a good concrete pair. You'll be sleeping"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "with the fishes."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "It's crazy. They just got caught. You"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "wonder how many like NFL soccer, you"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "know, like"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "everywhere. Oh, I know, dude."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "Kobe, listen. The NBA just got busted because they're fixing games. And guess who's involved? The Italian mafia."}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "And is Trump really building a ballroom or is there something else going on beneath the surface? Have you heard of the king of the alligators? Well, guess"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "what? He's right in our backyard. We're going to tell you all about it. It is very scary."}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "This podcast is brought to you and powered by Sunday cool. Watch this or"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "listen. You should do that though, right? I was lip singing nurse."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "[Music] Sorry, I'm a sensory guy. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "Can you turn my my ears up a little? One, one, one, one, one, one. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "Yeah. You guys got candy under there. Yeah. For Mr. Kyle Gray. He came and he uh gave us some gifts and"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "brought Josh some candy for his birthday. He asked me what you wanted. He texted me before he came and I said, \"LMA beans.\" I was about to let him show up"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "and give you limema beans. Terrible idea. I got you. Wait till you see what I got Josh for his birthday. I"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "just showed him. I got him some a whole Cindereo like big love box."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "That's so nice. Including a Cindereo bathrobe. Shut up. It's pretty cool. I can't wait to touch"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "it and see how it feels. He asked me years ago to get him this specific bathrobe. And I've searched I"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "have poured over our text messages, our Instagram messages, and the link is not there. It looked very Japanese, too."}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "Oh, yeah. It's gone forever. So, he never got one. Speaking of gifts, look at this. Look what we got sent."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "So, shout out to Hunter Harlo from Cindereo. You guys are the best. Yeah, which he might come on the pod. I've been"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "Yeah, please. Is he the Cindereo guy? His line, his spaghetti western new"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "line. They're incredible. Insane. I mean, it's like the Waterburg stuff. Amazing."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "Okay, this is insane. Look at this. So, this was sent to us. Says Iron Clad,"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "which is Sean Ryan's new show. Cool. Watch this."}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "What the heck? What? What the heck? Thank you for being who you are."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "So, it's his new trailer for his the show called SCatters."}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "It's I'll show you later. But that's nuts. Isn't that awesome? That's the craziest box I've ever seen. Wait, why did they send it to you guys?"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "Uh cuz they love us and Sean's our best friend. Yeah, we might we might get one of the"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "the guys that's that helps produce that show on the pod. That's awesome. Cuz he"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "he knows a lot of stuff. Yeah, but they sent us their gummy bears that they're always talking about on the show. Cool."}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "Um, what do those gummy bears do? Let me take I've always take one right now. Wait, be careful."}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "I'll take one right now. What if it makes you super masculine? It's like 100 milligrams of like THC."}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "Sean Ryan, we didn't know you were into this. It's literally just gummy bears. Oh, I thought it gives energy."}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "No, it's just gummy bears. It says corn, syrup, sugar. Yeah, just gummy bears."}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "But he says it's legal in all 50 states. Every time he says it, you're like, what? What are those gummy bears?"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "They're just gummy bears. That is the That's true. What if it's got something funny to say? And then"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "fanny pack. That is a um what do you call it? The EMF. Stop it right now."}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "Oh, sick. You block your stuff. Yeah, you can throw your phone in it. What a cool dude. These gummy bears"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "marketing program. 500 bucks. They're made of dairy though. Pretend dollars. No, this is real."}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "Why did they send us $500? So we would talk about it. That's pretend. Just kidding. I put these in before."}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "It's fake money. That box is sick. We need to do that for Sunday gold. Is that sick?"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "It's so funny that you brought prop money cuz I literally stacked myself full up for prop money. Oh, perfect."}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "So there you go. Thanks. Appreciate that. Thanks, Dad. Yep. Let me try. But yeah, super cool. What are they?"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "Super good gummy bears. Sean, I'm sure you guys have seen the um the Amazon reviews for the Hasbro gummy"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "bears because they people eat like half the bag and then they can't stop pooping. Have you ever seen that?"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "No. They're like a laxative. Yeah, we need to read some of these reviews. Oh, they're so funny. They're like, I"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "was eating this, you know, watching a movie, not anticipating the lava. Okay, let's write Patreon. Let's do"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "that. That would be a fun thing. Just let's go some through some fun reviews."}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "You got it. I mean, it's Andy hard. Speaking of Patreon, we are going to do something on Patreon. So,"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "we're going to take my blood. We're going to take Andy's blood. Recently, this is not a sponsor, but it kind of is because these guys are really"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "hooking us up. It's a Genesis Health Solution. They realize how unhealthy we are, and"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "we talk about all the time doing like competitions and stuff and like trying to get healthy and trying to do better. But what they do is they send you a"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "blood sample. It's this whole interactive thing. It's owned and operated by veterans, too. Okay. So really cool dudes. We're in"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "contact with uh Phillip who's awesome. He's the best. He's working in intelligence I believe."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "Um so just just to hear this correctly, we're taking people from the agencies"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "that we conspire against at times. Sure. We propagate conspiracies from and now"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "you're giving them your blood. Yeah. They're retired. They're nice though. Cool. They are nice. Yeah. Um but what they do it's really cool."}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "It's like this whole online program to where you it's all about like hormone"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "therapy, like getting all your levels back to where they are. But they also do uh like um health and fitness. So, you"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "get a coach with that, which we're getting a coach to help with health and fitness. I've already discovered that I'm super"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "low on my manly hormone. Probably that testosterone."}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "Crazy low. And they said you're like you're quadruple the amount of estrogen than a normal woman as well, which is"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "weird. That's why I've been crying so much. Yeah, you're super sensitive. And so imagine though, like you're so manly"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "right now. Imagine when your levels are normal. I know. It's going to be crazy. Well, I'm thinking I think you're going to hate it."}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "Yeah, I know. You're just outside chopping wood constantly on a red meat diet all the time."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "There's not a lot of research that I could find, but I wonder if a lot of my anxiety issues are because my"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "testosterone is so low. 100%. because women worry because they're always anxious."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "Everybody stop it right now. No, but we're super stoked. And we do have a discount, but if you guys go to"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "genre threehealth.com, uh you guys get a discount if you use the code ninja, that's 5% off uh for all"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "general listeners. And if you're a veteran, police, or first responder, you get an additional uh discount."}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "That's fantastic. Everybody watch our glow up. We're doing a 12-month journey. So, every month at the beginning of the"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "month, we'll report in with Gen uh Genesis Health Solutions and say where"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "we're at, how we're doing, and at the end of 12 months, we're going to do we have to we got to do a before and after"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "picture. I was going to say, why don't we let's just run these videos next to each other as well. We'll have How about this?"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "This episode's going to be playing a year from now, and you're just going to have this clip up here. How about in 12 months I shave my face"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "again, and we'll see how I look, right? It's like the most squared off superhero chin ever,"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "dude. I should talk like this. Now you're dead on with the tea. It says testosterone influences the"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "neurotransmitters like serotonin, dopamine, and GABA. All of which regulate mood and calmness. When the levels drop, you become imbalanced"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "leading to anxiety, irritability. He's been he's been a little I am and restless."}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "I I'm really excited. I really think that this has been the missing piece in your anxiety journey. You have been doing so good at taking care of your"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "body. You've made so many changes to move in a positive direction. We're on a a physical journey, a mental journey, a"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "spiritual journey, all of it. And this is like the missing puzzle piece. So, I can't wait because that's the thing that you don't"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "see. Like, you don't see like, oh, maybe there's literally something off with my actual body that I can't control"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "necessarily. Yeah. And for those of the dudes that are listening, they're like, \"That doesn't affect me.\" There's actually stats that"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "are coming out right now that men that are in their 20s and 30s have lower testosterone than men in their 50s and"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "60s because of environmental toxins and like plastics and all that stuff. So like just go get looked at for real."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "Well, they did a test. They took blood samples from like it was like over a thousand men"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "ranging from like 20 years old to I think 70. Mhm. And the dudes that were like 60 70 years"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "old, their tea was like maybe like 500"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "600, which is pretty good for an old man, but it's supposed to go down the older you get. And it was like 90% of"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "dudes in their 20s, they're in the 300 range. Lower than the older men."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "That's nuts. Yeah. I was at five. Were you? No, just literally five testosterone."}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "50. Yeah. Like Yeah. They said we can't find any. Yeah. So, I'm That's nuts, though. That's wild."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "Yeah. I'm excited. Kelsey and I are going to do it, too. Let's do What if we put our before picture in Patreon? You can only see it if you're a Patreon"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "member. No. Okay. I mean, we could we people have seen it shirtless. You posted a picture of me the other day where it looked like I was"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "wearing a mosquito. Oh, the one with the lion. Yeah. It's so funny. It's my favorite."}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "But these guys, Genesis Health Solutions, they approach it from like a homeopathic sense, too. So,"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "yeah. It's basically what I was describing it to my girlfriends today cuz I'm trying to get them all on this train and I'm just like, it's what"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "they're trying to do is basically bring functional medicine to the primary. like it's so hard to go get functional"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "medicine care anywhere and it's also extremely expensive. These guys are saying we're going to make it accessible"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "to everybody. So what's cool is that they have doctors on staff too. Okay. To where like so you fill out a thing"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "and then a doctor calls you and they go through your blood work and stuff and then they diagnose you with whatever and"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "then they also have a pharmacy that they they'll send you stuff. So it's all over the internet which is sick. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "And once again, not a sponsor. We're literally just about this. We're trying to like we want to do this"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "podcast till the day we die. And it might be next year if we don't do this. Yeah. So if you're mad that"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "So we're doing this so we can live forever. So this is still technically adree cuz they're not a sponsor."}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "Yeah. And also you literally get to see me take blood cuz they send you a box and it's a whole little gadget that you stick into your shoulder and I'm going"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "to see how it goes. Are you going to film it on the show? We're going to do it on Patreon. Like I'm I haven't even opened the box and"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "read the instructions. We're going to do it all on Patreon. needlefree device that you stick on your arm"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "and it sucks your blood like a We're going to find out how it works. Like a mosquito. I think there is. It does have a tiny tiny needle. Little"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "prick. Yeah, that's interesting. Whenever I do like my gender test with babies, you have to do that. You stick a needle in your arm"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "and Yeah. Probably. Anyh who, it'll be cool. We'll talk more about on Patreon. Another another thing about uh"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "non-sponsored brands that we love. I just ordered a box from Fishwife."}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "Oh, yeah. If any of our listeners are connected to Fishwife, I would love to be sponsored by Fishwife. Also, just send us some tuna belly for"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "us to try, please. Yeah, they got a new canned tuna belly, but it's 75 bucks for three cans."}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "Goodness gracious. What is So, it's actually like belly fat, like belly meat from an actual tuna."}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "It's like the bacon really of the tuna. They just dropped through a gift sampler box. I got it from my dad for his"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "birthday. I think my dad is not going to see this episode, so he doesn't need to hear it, but he's not going to hear it. But I am over the moon. So excited for"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "this sampler box. Fun stuff. Speaking of fun stuff, do you want a song? Yeah. I hope"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "we'll see how this goes. I believe in both of you. Yeah. Yep. Yep."}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "We literally We didn't even practice it. This is Yeah. First time in"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "ever. I mean, usually we practice it at least once, right? I walked in on you practicing it. No,"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "we've done some improv stuff. We've done Andy. Oh. Andy,"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "Andy, Andy, Josh. And it's also probably going to get flagged. I'm in the upside down. Help."}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "You ready? Yeah. All right. Here we go."}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "[Music] I woke up rested right at dawn. and then"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "put my new outfit on. Out the door I went. No traffic. Got to work and walked"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "inside. Inside. My boss shook my hand. Said, \"I'm so handsome and hands me a"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "hundred bucks. Go ahead and go to lunch."}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "Eat anything you want.\" [Music]"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "There's so much freaking tacos. Tacos."}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "I ate at I ate so much freaky tacos. Tacos."}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "And then I just poop my pants so badly in front of everyone I know. Then I just"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "poop my pants so badly. Now I got to go."}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "Pants so badly. I've been so bad. I just poop my pants so badly"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "and I worst way. Dude, we freaking nailed it."}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "We freaking flag. You know, that's the benefit of going"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "first try is it might not get true. They'll they'll listen to it and it's like, \"Oh, this is flagged.\" And"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "they'll watch it and be like, \"You know what? Just let him have it. Oh, just let them have it. They can keep that one."}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "Great. What was that song? Um, the original. It's Taking Back Sunday."}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "Oh, I see. Can't say the name cuz there's a curse word in it. Oh, make darn sure."}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "Make darn sure. Make darn sure. Man, it's one of the most influential songs"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "of my teen years. It was same. Love it. Love Taking Back Sunday. I love that."}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "I think it's the only song I've heard. Taking Back Sunday. Cool. Taking Back Sunday. Cool."}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "Cool. Yeah. Yeah. I really like these. They're really good. They're very uh"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "like soft. I was going to say tender, but I was like I was think that was the right word"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "for it cuz it's usually like gummy burn. Shut up. I can't remember. What is that? Quiet."}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "You could have just asked. What are we doing? What do you What is that? What is that company? Stop something. You need help, dude."}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "This has nothing to do with what's inside my body. Has everything to do with what's inside my heart."}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "Well, that okay. Doesn't make sense. But are that adds up. Zip it."}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "I'm scared."}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "This question has me nervous."}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "Okay, we live in a really dark world right now. A lot of bad things are happening."}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "A lot of a lot of people are going missing. A lot of crime is happening. A lot of items"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "are going missing. Yeah. Wars,"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "rumors of wars, earthquakes, famine, scary stuff."}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "Stop toes. And this question"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "apparently somebody knows something because this is it's directed right at Lily. Oh gosh."}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "Which is I don't know why they all they're always directed at Lily somehow."}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "I mean, this one's specific. A lot of people say she's the cornerstone of this podcast."}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "They do. They just do say that. Just get on with it. Just rip the band-aid off."}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "You ready? Go ahead. Today's question sent in by a viewer"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "Lily. Where were you October 19th,"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "2025? What is today? I"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "think it's the 27th. We're filming on the 27th. It's coming out. calendar cuz this like this is not"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "something you just need to be like where were you li October 19th 2025"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "was that Tuesday last week? No, October 19th was a Sunday"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "Li. Where were you October 19th, 2025"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "trying to find out? What What state were you in? Florida. What country?"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "United States. Florida. Okay. I was carving pumpkins with my nephew and my children."}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "Oh, that sounds like follow. I got followup question. That was your birthday."}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "What's under your chair? What are you talking about? Right. No, there's something. Is that out in Is that in frame? Do we need a"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "What's that red thing? What is that box? Is that a box or is that like a"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "Don't make Looks like a cord or something. No, we're not going to scare Why Why would we ever scare you during question?"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "What is that? Yeah, pick it up. What is that? spider on it. Is there"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "No, there's no grab the box. What is it? What does it say"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "here? Face it towards the camera. To Lily from Le Garson."}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "Le Garson. What is that? French. French. That means the Are we going to France? Protect Protect you if you're wrong."}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "Protect me if I'm wrong. Yeah, I will. But is it less garson? Does that mean"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "the boys less gar? I had to say that means the boys. Whoever made this doesn't isn't one of"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "you guys cuz two Lily from the boys. Josh, did you write this? Because that's not how you spell my name. Did you know"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "that? Well, that's Lily and French. They do two L's. Yeah, Lily."}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "What's in the box? That's obviously for you. Oh, so fancy."}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "What is I'm sorry. What is that? Are those Is that not That's not what I think."}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "Is that Napoleon's wife's necklace that was stolen from the Lou? Josephine, are you honored?"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "What do you mean you're What are you talking about? Why are you acting so Lily? So, you knew"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "about this? You obviously were behind this. You were behind. You hired these men. You hired the Why"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "would you say it? Lego Sons. Lego. Let's go. The boys. You did that."}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "She's You're right. It was me. Well, I guess you guys heard it here first. Lily is the mastermind behind the"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "thievery that took place at the Lou where they stole history. History. Lil."}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "She's like history. I want to make it her story. Shame on you. Welcome to the show."}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "Did I say ninja? I meant butterfly. The butterfly is no doubt one of God's"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "martial arts has empty your mind. You were martial arts [ __ ] just attack."}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "[Music] Josh, did you write this? Disgusting. No, it was me. I was like,"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "there's not two L's. I don't know why I put two L's. Stop. Relax."}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "The Lou. The Lou. The Lou. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "As when this comes out, it's a couple of weeks past. Yeah. Yeah. But"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "holy moly, dude. They did catch two people that were involved in it. Arrested them. Oh, that that's This is a thing that"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "happened. Oh, yeah. I've been under a rock. Oh my gosh. I don't know anything. Here we go."}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "They got a ladder. It was literally like a 1950s Christmas. She's just Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead."}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "You set it up better. October 19th. Andrew, dude. Okay."}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "It was just a normal day in Paris, France. What happened? Don't joke around. This is serious. This is a legit thing."}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "These dudes, they dressed up as construction workers and they had a truck with a like a cherry picker ladder"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "on it. Yeah. Yeah. Like tree service style. Yep. They pull up to the Louv, they go up there in their vest and helmets and"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "stuff, bust in a window, go in there, and they literally have like uh grinders"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "with like the diamond plates on cut the glass where all the necklace and the jewelry and stuff were. Take it, get"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "down. They try to set their truck on fire. And then they just got on the little"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "scooters and took off. City scooters. Yeah. No way. And they got away, dude. They were"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "caught yesterday, though. Apparent apparently. Apparently. Apparently, they're the guys. Allegedly."}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "But when this comes out, they still don't know where all the the jewels are. Jewels. The jewelry."}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "Yeah. So, that stuff wasn't like wasn't under no sensors on the glass. No, it was cuz"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "it was like the alarms going off and stuff, but like the way that they came in and they did it like within minutes"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "and they were aware of a certain blind spot with the surveillance cameras, which is crazy cuz so they they had to"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "have known. I'm trying to figure out though like I mean, man, that takes I feel like"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "that's minutes is too much time to pull it off, but I guess not. Dude, I mean, it's just one of those"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "things. You don't get to hear about this type of stuff often, and it's a terrible thing. It's breaking"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "the lawny, but it's also a museum, dude. It's just stuff and it's kind of"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "exciting. I don't know if that's right of me to say that, but I think it's crazy exciting. I mean, it was like an Oceans movie."}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "The promotion for the new Oceans movie is getting crazy. That's basically what it is. It's the type thing like if the two of"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "you found out that you had two months to live, I could for sure see you both being like, \"Dude, we should try it.\""}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "That'd be us in the Smithsonian, dude. Walking out with a giant 10ft femur or something. Did Did you guys see the the"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "detective that was Dude, yes. Let me send the picture. I don't know. Have you seen this? When you Google this, it says there's"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "CBD in it. I've eaten like 30 of them. Let me see it. That better not be true."}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "Oh my gosh. I'm about to freak out. If that happens, I'm panicking, bro. I literally just ate 30 of them."}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "I'm the only adult in my daughter's lives right now. She's on her way home. They're going to ba No, they have to go"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "pick her up at the airport. Oh gosh, there's no CBD in it. The key ingredient"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "in Vigilance Elite Gummy Bears is CBD. There's no CBD on the ingredient CBD on"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "their website. Okay. Golly, could you imagine? I was starting to like psycho myself out"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "like I was freaking out. Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad I didn't actually."}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "Um, would you want to join the conversation now? You You guys did a really good job recapping what happened."}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "Look at the picture of that detective. Just start again. That was on the case. This is a real real detective."}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "That is not real. That's No, it's 100% real. That's the crazy thing. It makes it this"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "all seems like a movie. That dude, man, what are you do? What What are you doing with the outfit?"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "That guy was brought out of his apartment. That's like like he hasn't been outside. He's been studying,"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "reading, and they're like, \"Sir, we have a case for you.\" He said, \"I've been waiting for this case my whole life.\" actual shot, not"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "AI, of a French detective working on the case of the French crown jewels that were stolen from the Lou."}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "Dude, in brazen daylight. I'm trying to figure out of all the things to be hung up on, but the fact"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "that he's got a black jacket and blue accents with a brown hat is kind of ticking me off. Well, he's French, dude. What do you"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "expect? I expect more from the French, dude. No, don't. You need to expect less every"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "single day. You need to expect less. Isn't it? You need to start researching it, Andrew, because it's just like kind of delightful that this happened."}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "It's a It's a crazy story. I mean, no one got hurt, thank goodness. I'm not condoning it. But golly, of all"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "the crimes to commit. Yeah. If you had to choose just one jewelry heist for museums, not a bad one."}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "Yeah. Once again, I feel bad saying that. I just love that everybody's saying AI could never. Maybe. And um I heard they"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "weren't actually Josephine's jewels. They were his second wife. No, second wife, which is I mean like if anything"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "needs to be preserved as Josephine because she's an icon. Yeah. Second wives don't count. Correct. Shout out to second."}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "Not to go. That's true. We don't feel that way."}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "That's a joke. It's a comedy show. Come on. That's so funny. And not to God."}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "God, what a crazy story though. So fun. I feel relaxed. It's a move. Like this. I'm worried this is"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "progressing. Yeah. Yeah. You're just going to be like in You're going to be in the couch. There's no CBD in it."}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "You remember the um the the no the no drugs ad that she's like, \"You don't play with me anymore.\" And it's like her"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "sister that like melted into the couch. You remember that? And she's just like completely deflated into the couch."}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "That's going to be you at the end of the episode. Wait a second. It does say five grams of THC though."}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "Stop it. Don't say that. Oh my god. I'm telling you that literally would be per gummy worm."}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "I literally ate 30. Yeah, you're [ __ ] dude. It's just weird that he sells just"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "regular gummies though, right? It's the Yeah, with like dye in them and stuff. But they're made in America, which is cool."}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "But if you're going to make your own gummy, why don't you make it with dy free dye? Hey, be nice to Sean. Yeah, leave alone."}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "They're delicious, everybody. For real. I ate 30 of them. Speaking of 30 of them, huh?"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "We got about 30 inches of rain last night. Dude, I thought we were in the middle of a hurricane, bro. That was insane."}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "Out of nowhere. It was not on the forecast whatsoever. Nothing else. Cuz I was supposed to be working outside"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "all day. And I was like, \"Okay, it's only supposed to drizzle for like 2 hours. We're good. 20% chance.\""}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "Yeah, it said 20 20 to 30% chance. And then it rained for 6 hours straight. I"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "think even more than that because it started at noon and I went to bed at like 11 o'clock and it was still cat and dogs. It was It rained right on our house."}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "What was it? 14.6 in. Yeah, we have flower like vases all over"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "the deck and every one of them is like liter it's full to the brim."}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "The road that goes into downtown Donley just completely collapsed into the ground with a car in"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "the main road. Insane. Like it's a crazy busy road. I will say this, there's been a government"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "shutdown. Yeah. And I don't know if you've noticed, but"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "during the shutdown, I haven't seen a lot of chemtrails. That I haven't been paying attention."}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "It was yesterday when we were driving to Orlando, just chemtrails everywhere. Really?"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "Yeah. Dead serious. Is the government up and running again? No. They're probably like, \"We got to"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "make it rain.\" M yeah. See, my my whole thing is if the government like what what does that"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "mean? If they're shut down, they're not enforcing stuff cuz they're literally not at work. Yeah. They're not paying"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "like a large majority of government employees, including air traffic controllers. Terrified that we're flying this"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "Thursday. Yeah. You want to get there early because they're saying that like TSA and stuff, a lot of people aren't working"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "because they're not getting paid. Thankfully Orlando has that like live tracker so you can see how how backed up"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "it is. Are you talking Are you talking about the video of the guy that made no money out of shift and then had to go door dash afterwards?"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "Yeah. Just to make some money. Yeah. His payub said 0.00. No, they don't get back paid, do they?"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "I don't think so. I mean then why continue to work except just truly just service? I don't just to keep your job probably"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "because maybe they do get back paid. They would have to get back paid cuz like my ticket's not free. So the the money's there. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "it is so frustrating cuz it's like who do you blame in this, right? It's both parties just doing this at each other"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "where they couldn't agree on whatever the budget, whatever. They should have done Stay Together for"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "the Kids by Blink 182 cuz that's how I feel right now. Oh, that's okay. So, they should have done a government shutdown song."}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "But yeah, they just it's like the Democrats wanted this and that in it and"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "it's like crazy stuff and the Republicans are like there's no way we're going to put that in it. So, it's like, \"All right, well, we're just going"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "to shut it down.\" It's crazy. And so, there's no there's no resolution right now because they're both like,"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "\"Not going to do it. Not going to do it.\" It is. So, but this is the messed up part. All congressmen"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "are still getting paid. Yeah. So, they're not missing out on a paycheck. They don't really care. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "So, this is vacation for them. It's vacation. And it's just like cuz they're not working. They're just"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "not They're It's hurting the American people. like the food stamps, whatever it's called,"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "they shut down snaps. They're stopping those on November 1st unless it opens back up."}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "Why? Cuz there's no money. They're they ran out of money. There's money. They're said they ran They ran out. There's money."}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "Listen, this is just what they're saying, dude. I mean, we're still paying taxes. Yeah, we're still getting char. Dude,"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "when are we going to revolt? Right now. everyone watching, have you uh have you heard I don't know"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "if it was legit or not, but it was from the movie Succession and they were talking about Mark Zuckerberg and they tells a story about how it's like in"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "ancient times when they would have slaves. I think it was ancient Rome and you know they were like they're they were coming up together like hey let's"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "get all slaves to wear a specific uh outfit that way like we could tell who's"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "who. And then they apparently just chose against that because they realized that if all the slaves were looking around"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "and they saw how many of them they were, they would revolt because they would see how many how few"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "leaders they actually have. And so I was like, that's interesting. Did you see the guy on TikTok where it's"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "like a it's a it's a farm, but he like went up"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "and like if you can like purchase the produce like right from the farm. Okay. But it has like these Haitian"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "workers on it in America. Yeah. And he walked up there and he's like and but there's a dude like sitting"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "in a truck like watching them like it looks sketch. Yeah. And he's like, \"Hey, do you like are you"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "here on your own free will?\" And they're like, \"Go [Music] what is happening?\""}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "And it's like, and so he's like trying to document it like what is going on? Like it seems like they're like slaves."}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "We think that this is just like a non-reality, but I saw a video one time of a guy that had escaped human"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "trafficking. And I guess I've always had it in my head that like if you're captured in human trafficking, they'll"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "usually take you to another country. There's a whole underground system of of"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "sla enslaved people in our nation and like where are they working and where he said he was working in Texas."}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "Really? He was taken to Texas. Yeah. And like you think about freaking Wayfair, dude. You think about I just saw this thing"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "again. That was crazy. Yeah, that whole that whole conspiracy was wild. The $18,000 cabinets that had obscure"}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "names that were affiliated with missing children in the nation. And it's like it it literally to me is so apparent that"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "it would happen in plain sight like that. Yeah. And it's the whole idea of like that, you know, realize how crazy you"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "sound, Li, when you say that. You sound so crazy. That's the type of thing when those things happen, I'm like, you know what? I don't care. I will believe in it."}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "But like what are we going to do? Yeah. Yeah. I would much rather believe in that like instead of just the fact that"}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "yeah, kids go missing. It's not, you know, we can't really do anything about it. It's like no, there has to be something going on."}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "Yeah. I mean, maybe not for all cases, but there's a lot out there and we're not we're not doing anything about it."}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "Yeah. Josh's uncle Brian was really involved in the antihuman trafficking movement to where they would involve"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "local law enforcement and they would go and um do these buss and get the kids out. Yeah. and he said, \"You would not"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "believe. It is the most affluent neighborhoods. It's the ones that are buttto butt houses right next to each"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "other where you think that somebody would take him out to like a cabin in the woods. It's happening right in front"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "of us.\" Yeah. Yeah. It's sad, dude. It's scary. I would love to have Uncle Brian on the pod. That'd be a fascinating"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "conversation stories. His best friend, Eric Nory, should come, too. He's That guy has been struck by lightning like seven times and bitten by"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "a million snakes. How about not bring him here? Yeah, that's a remote interview kind of thing, you know."}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "Yeah, I talk about him all like I feel like we've talked about him a couple times, but like birds landing on his shoulders and like just weird stuffed weird energy. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "that's amazing. Yeah, it's crazy cuz they say I mean they say trafficking uh I mean like uh uh slavery"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "is a bigger problem than it's ever been in history. Like we talk about it's like a past issue. It's at numbers wise the"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "biggest it's ever been. Did you guys ever do that like uh technology tracker where you could like look at put in the"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "technology you use and then it would give you your footprint for like your utilization of slave trade?"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "Golly, it's it's terrible. like things like your phone, your TVs, all of that technology when you look at it from the"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "different places around the world, like you know, they might just be getting one part for the iPhone from a specific"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "Asian country, but when you follow the rabbit trail, this organization actually looked at each of those companies and it's like"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "basically the equivalent of like how many slave hours went into producing the things that you use for everyday life"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "and it's high. And I don't know if it's just like that's part of living in a dark and broken world that you just"}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "can't get away from it. But it's like it gets so overwhelming sometimes. This is like the same reason when people look at how sausage is"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "actually made and you see how mistreated cows and pigs and it's like you watch that enough you really probably you have"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "to make that decision. I don't think I could do meat anymore. It's the same thing when you find out all this stuff that's going on in the"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "world. How clothing is made, how our electronic stuff is made. It's like do I just not purchase anything? Do I just"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "Yeah. make my own bike somehow and like just live. I mean, you you just can't"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "though. Like, that's not the world we're living in. No, I think you're right. I think that everything all the suffering that we"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "bear witness to in the world is just a reminder that we do live in a broken world and we need to be saved by a"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "savior. I saw something the other day and they were like, \"Oh yeah, your handmade clothing.\" It was like what we"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "had all assumed was a reputable site to buy clothing from. You go and it's in"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "the slums of India and these guys I mean it looks like slavery. They're working night and day for their because it is"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "handmade. Yikes. Hand dyed, you know. Yeah, man."}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "Messed up world. So tough. Anyways, it rained a lot. It rained a lot. How do I want to go"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "back? How do we get there? How we went from rain, we went to chemtrails, we went to government shutdown, and then we went How do we get from government"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "shutdown to what we were just talking about? I don't even remember. I don't even That's crazy. It was uh we're talking about being paid and then"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "food stamps. Yeah, food. That's so funny. The rabbit drill. The Haitian farmers,"}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "right? I do want to know if the government shut down, will the FWC do anything if I'm"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "just out hunting? I don't know. I don't know. I saw that I think it was Trump made a"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "kind of sarcastic comment alluding to something with hunting. I"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "was like, I don't know that if I did something way down here on this end of the totem pole that his joke would"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "protect me. I heard that Elon Musk was paying some of the troops or paying the troops."}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "Is that true? Google it. Yeah, that's just what somebody told me. I'm like, really? That's pretty cool."}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "I don't think a cop can arrest me if the government's shut down, though. That's got to be true, right?"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "I don't think I have to pay my traffic violations if the government is shut down, right? I know they do the u"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "essential government workers are still working and being paid like the essential ones that like take"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "money from us and Yeah. Well, they also said the the um"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "Trump's using $130 million from anonymous donor to pay military salaries"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "amid shutdown. An anonymous donor for 130 million. That"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "seems suspicious. Benjamin Netanyahu Maybe. Speaking of which,"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "they're it's rumoring that it's Musk apparently. That's what it is. Cute. The uh the Amazon web cloud service that"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "went down last week or what was that? It's crazy. Really freaky actually."}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "Um well, one, let me start off with this. This is crazy. Yeah. You know, you did your whole AI"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:34", "text": "thing with the answer Apple if you can't answer. Sure. Um Josh that helps out at my dad's"}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "property. Mhm. he did that and like went like he like went super down the rabbit hole or"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "whatever. Um, but it said one of the first things that would happen is like before the"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "nation started to crumble or like before this whole new world order started to play is that the internet would crash"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "down. Yeah. And like to where you can't access your bank, you can't do all that stuff. And"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "the Amazon web server was just kind of like a little like teaser of like this"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:10", "text": "is what could happen because there was like over I think it's 20,000 businesses use this Amazon"}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:17", "text": "web server. Okay. And it went down at like 3 in the morning. What when was it? Um"}, {"start": "00:37:17", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "yeah, it was like 3 in the morning that it went down. 2,000 businesses, sorry. Uh but millions of users reported"}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "service issues. Uh but what's freaky is that it just shows uh internet's"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "resilience depends on a handful of firms and infrastructure points. When one key"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "piece fails, many downstream servers suffer. Yeah. So like"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:46", "text": "I I just like how we're so vulnerable. Yeah. And I think it was a little cyber"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "attack, but they're not saying anything about that's what they did. I mean a lot of people think it was China with the airports."}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:57", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Last year when they Yeah. when all that stuff went down. I mean, it's happened more frequently, it seems like."}, {"start": "00:37:57", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "And we're more vulnerable than ever. The technology in other areas like China are getting so much more advanced than us."}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "It wouldn't be hard. Yeah. Man, we're wide open. We have so many people who are like"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "leading the development of AI and and I know obviously China is super advanced, too. But all I can hope is that if this"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "is the reality that it's going both ways, like I'm sure if we're doing, you"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "know, shady stuff like attacking cyber stuff in China, we're not reporting on that what we're doing. You know what I"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "mean? So the hope would be this might just be what warfare looks like. It's like"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:37", "text": "let's throw a punch and then negotiate something for a temporary peace. Yeah. Yeah. So, this might be in place of, you know,"}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:44", "text": "storming the beach, which I'll I'll take, you know, but it it is definitely a volatile world to"}, {"start": "00:38:44", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "live in. Yeah. Volatile. Speaking of volatile, I know what that word means."}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "Um, Trump's ballroom. Dude, I've heard some conspiracies about this."}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "All right. So, what would you think? What would could possibly be a conspiracy behind this ballroom?"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "I got I got all the receipts here. It's actually a ball pit. He's just jumping around in a ball pit like"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:15", "text": "real fun. I thought you said ballroom. Is this what he's the the wing stuff? The west wing I believe. Westing."}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "East. East wing. Yeah, east wing. I I don't even know where my brain is going. The thing is because like people are"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "saying like how can you do this? And it's like and they brought out pictures whatever her name is that uh the White House secretary or Yeah. press secretary"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "comes out and shows pictures of people like you know like in the past and stuff doing things and it's like that was like"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:39", "text": "like renovations and stuff and like they're like demolishing it. Yeah. And then like building I mean there's some presidents like that"}, {"start": "00:39:39", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "added like a bowling alley in the White House. Well, Barack Obama put in a basketball court or something like that too."}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "Yeah. And the kicker was that all these other presidents used taxpayer money for it and Trump is not using taxpayer money"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "paying for it personally. I I'm pro continue. Not personally. He has he has some"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "donors. Anonymous donors. Not anonymous. You ready for these donors?"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "Can we guess? Danny DeVito. Elon Musk. I'll just read them."}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "Okay. Not Israel. Google. Oh, Apple."}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "Okay. Amazon. Why? Meta. All right."}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "Microsoft. Mhm. Loheed Martin. Oh my gosh. Good people. Palunteer."}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "Love them. Typical T-Mobile. One of these sponsored by T-Mo the"}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "other. Yeah, it's just like they just have a branding on the outside of the White House. Just a like a neon pink sign brought to you"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "by T-Mobile. But here's the here's here's where it gets weird. All right. That's already weird. That's super weird."}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "That's it's already started being weird. That's such a weird because there are a lot of feuding people in that. Oh, I"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "see. I see where you're going with this because of this kind of concept about Trump wanting this idea that the the"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:40:59", "text": "government's going to be run by billionaires and corporations. That's part of it. But it's a 90,000"}, {"start": "00:40:59", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "foot ballroom that he's building. Yeah, that's huge. 95,000. 90,000. 90,000. Okay. And the estimate at first was it was"}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:11", "text": "going to be 200 million, which is a lot. Yeah. Now, it's going to be upwards of"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "over 300 million for this 90,000 foot ballroom. That's nuts. That is equivalent to paying $3,330"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "a square foot, which is psycho. Like, why? Way outside the standard of what you pay"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "per square foot for a building. Sure. So, what are they spending so much money on? Why is it so expensive?"}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:36", "text": "Let me just break this down real quick. So, like a standard commercial home,"}, {"start": "00:41:36", "end": "00:41:43", "text": "maximum you're going to pay is $600 a square foot. Yeah. A high-end luxury hotel or whatever,"}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:48", "text": "maximum is $1,200 a square foot. And then secret government or secure"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:54", "text": "government uh facilities max that you pay for is $1,800 a square foot."}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "So, it's a bunker/ballroom. So, they're building it and it's three"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "over $3,000 a square foot. A theory is that they're building an underground"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "database center. Yeah, there you go. That would make sense for all those tech companies."}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:16", "text": "Yep. Because this is weird. Okay. So, um couple years ago, this dude named"}, {"start": "00:42:16", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "Larry Ellison in Israel built a underground um what I what did I just"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "call it? Bunker data data center. Um that is 160 ft below ground. 460,000"}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:39", "text": "square feet and he paid or they paid Israel $319 million for this."}, {"start": "00:42:39", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "Wow. There you go. That's got to be it. Highly comparable. He said it was 400 40,000 ft."}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:51", "text": "$460,000 ft. Gosh. Under Jerusalem. Dear Lord."}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:57", "text": "Yeah. This So this bunker or this ballroom is costing about the same as"}, {"start": "00:42:57", "end": "00:43:03", "text": "what this data center cost in Jerusalem. Not nearly as big. Well, that's just the surface because"}, {"start": "00:43:03", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "they're just building a ballroom. Yeah. But they're But what's going to be underneath? Sure. And why are all these people interested"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "in investing in it? They would all invest because they don't want to be excluded. Mhm. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:19", "text": "It's an investment. Yep. That's what for later on. Yeah. Like that. Oh my gosh, bro."}, {"start": "00:43:19", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "But then you have a privatized corporations that are now involved in building aspects of the White House."}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "Yeah. Which I mean that's just a building. This is basically them just becoming brazen"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:37", "text": "about what they've been doing all along. Was Bezos in there? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Got it. Okay."}, {"start": "00:43:37", "end": "00:43:42", "text": "That's wild. I want Zuckerberg. Weird, right? Dude, I hate it, man."}, {"start": "00:43:42", "end": "00:43:47", "text": "These surprised Tik Tok wasn't a sponsor in 2008 when everyone was telling me to"}, {"start": "00:43:47", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "get rid of my MySpace and to get a Facebook. I was right. I should have stuck with MySpace."}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:58", "text": "You were right. Yeah. Who made MySpace? Well, either way, they was still Tom. Tom the legend."}, {"start": "00:43:58", "end": "00:44:03", "text": "You don't know Tom? MySpace. Tom. I didn't have a MySpace. No. That's a bummer."}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "Do you know how young I am? Yeah, I know how old I am. Do you know what Tom did after he sold"}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:14", "text": "MySpace? I love this so much. Just decided to travel the world and become a photographer. Sick. What's he doing now? Let's get him"}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "on the pod. Literally that. He's still traveling. He just travels and posts. It was so cool because literally like as"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "soon as you got on MySpace, you had immediately one friend and it was Tom. And it was this picture of him looking over his shoulder in a white shirt"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "smiling and everyone's friend was Tom. And so you had immediately a first friend as soon as you got onto this"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:37", "text": "website which is so smart. Yeah. Like just to be like, \"Hey, I'm the owner of the company. Welcome.\" I mean,"}, {"start": "00:44:37", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "that is way cute. But you could customize your homepage. Yeah. I remember looking at it. My cousin had one and I thought it was really cool."}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:50", "text": "The amount of like people who learned HTML like program because you could actually put that in your own like sight"}, {"start": "00:44:50", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "script. Yeah. Yeah. There's all these websites where you could get that and like have your own. Yeah. Yeah. My buddy is now a program. Like he"}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:03", "text": "literally writes code. Yeah. But he writes code. Literally he had for a while he had the idea for how"}, {"start": "00:45:03", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "to do his page and he handwrote it on like a ton of sheets of toilet paper."}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "Like literally had the code written out. But what they did for music was insane. Like the fact that you went to someone's"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:20", "text": "page and it could be just like a local band but it would play like it was how bands got out there in the early days. I"}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:26", "text": "freaking loved it. Yeah, my space. Thomas Smart because he's not in the category with all these people here."}, {"start": "00:45:26", "end": "00:45:32", "text": "I know. Screwing I don't know. Screwing up something up. I don't know yet. It is very fishy."}, {"start": "00:45:32", "end": "00:45:38", "text": "It's got to be a bunker. It's got to be a huge something underground because it there it the tunnels do connect to all the"}, {"start": "00:45:38", "end": "00:45:44", "text": "important government buildings in DC. Yeah. So where they're digging"}, {"start": "00:45:44", "end": "00:45:50", "text": "is the tunnel system. Trump's too smart to do something like just a ballroom. We're not. We can't be that naive."}, {"start": "00:45:50", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "Although, I will say the ballroom is a good idea because apparently the capacity for the White House was only"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:46:02", "text": "like 50 people or something like that, right? Yeah. Like the biggest room could hold like 50 people, but this would hold 999 people."}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "You always think you're like they're having all these events at the White House. Apparently, they weren't. Yeah. Yeah. Unless they were having it on the the"}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "lawn or something, right? Yeah, I guess so. That's interesting. That's just what I saw. Well, we got to we got to hook up in the"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:20", "text": "White House. Why don't we go get a tour? Yeah, we got to ask this guy about it. Ask what's going on with this bunker."}, {"start": "00:46:20", "end": "00:46:25", "text": "He would know. You would see them digging, right? Well, not if they have that tunnel system. They'd be able to"}, {"start": "00:46:25", "end": "00:46:31", "text": "go from go. Yep. That seems so dangerous. Let me text our guy right now. I'm just going to ask him. Is it a bunker?"}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "Is it a bunker? Blink twice. But that data center in Jerusalem, I forgot to say the name of it, which is a little eerie. It's called Oracle Data"}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "Center. Why are we doing all these witchy names? Wait, that's that's in Israel. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:48", "text": "that's interesting that they would use a pagan terminology. The oracle. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:46:48", "end": "00:46:53", "text": "Why am I not surprised? I had a theory this weekend, but I'm afraid to say it."}, {"start": "00:46:53", "end": "00:47:00", "text": "Come on. Now you got to whisper it. Whisper it to me and I'll say it with the with the people of Israel."}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:07", "text": "Oh yeah, that was really interesting. patreon.com butterflies."}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:12", "text": "Yeah. Yeah, maybe save that one. Yeah, we'll talk about on Patreon. Yeah. Dang it."}, {"start": "00:47:12", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "It's interesting. Okay, because we were uh at the property"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "for my birthday, just a couple dudes hanging out. Had a blast. Yeah, Andy wasn't there. Neither was"}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:30", "text": "Andrew. I no real friends. Literally couldn't. Literally couldn't. Anyways, we we were talking about all"}, {"start": "00:47:30", "end": "00:47:36", "text": "this stuff and I mentioned it. I'm like, whoa. I'm like, that actually sounds legit."}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:41", "text": "And everyone's like, whoa, I never thought about it that way. I'm like, I haven't either until right now. Am I a"}, {"start": "00:47:41", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "genius? Only on my birthday. So, we'll talk about on Patreon. Josh has a birthday persona. I haven't seen it come out in so long, though. You"}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:52", "text": "What's his name? You change. I know. We need to come up with a name. You help. You've seen it. I mean, yeah, that's true. I I mean,"}, {"start": "00:47:52", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "it's kind of like a I don't know. I don't know that I know this."}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:04", "text": "Frederick almost or gold. Like a Freddy, but it's like his nickname is Freddy, but his real name is Frederick because"}, {"start": "00:48:04", "end": "00:48:11", "text": "there's something like it's like a primal type of uh European. Oh, yeah. I think your roots come out. I"}, {"start": "00:48:11", "end": "00:48:16", "text": "think your heritage like I think a little bit of like Irish Scottish comes out. Cool. Yeah, that's fun."}, {"start": "00:48:16", "end": "00:48:24", "text": "Yeah, because you always lift up your kilt and I never You're never wearing a kilt, but you know, speaking of kilts, real quick. Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "00:48:24", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "Uh Sarah Hastings, happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday."}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:37", "text": "You got a good husband. Speaking of husbands, I will do you guys see that for the first time in"}, {"start": "00:48:37", "end": "00:48:44", "text": "human history that we've been able to observe, there are mosquitoes in Iceland."}, {"start": "00:48:44", "end": "00:48:50", "text": "Oh no, that is the last thing I needed to hear. I was thinking ice. It's not icy there."}, {"start": "00:48:50", "end": "00:48:56", "text": "Iceland? Yeah, it is. It's kind of green. No, that the opposite is opposite."}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "No, it's very icy and cold and dark like no trees. Okay. Oh, yeah. The Iceland. I was"}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:10", "text": "thinking of something else. I'm so sorry. I was thinking like the North. What were you thinking about? I don't know. I was think I think it was like uh"}, {"start": "00:49:10", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "I was think Norway type of thing like Greenland and Iceland. I was like, \"Oh, well, Greenland's actually super icy,"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:21", "text": "but Iceland's actually super green.\" Yeah. But then I not remember just researching about trying to go to Iceland. I'm like, \"Yeah, of course it's"}, {"start": "00:49:21", "end": "00:49:27", "text": "super icy. Mosquitoes are there. That's crazy.\" And they're like, scientists are like, \"We have no idea how they got here,"}, {"start": "00:49:27", "end": "00:49:33", "text": "how they're how they got there. are also how they're surviving. Yeah, Bill Gates is up to something, dude."}, {"start": "00:49:33", "end": "00:49:38", "text": "Don't you think they're going to take us out? Or we're we're experiencing that polar shift, dude. That"}, {"start": "00:49:38", "end": "00:49:43", "text": "or switch. Or they're genetically modifying mosquitoes so they can live in any climate."}, {"start": "00:49:43", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "Maybe they're the new cockroach. Maybe you can't kill them. Freaky though."}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:57", "text": "Super freaky. Which I will say, everything's been weird this year. We say that every year, but I know. But if you look at because you"}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "know like the the pole shift stuff. Yeah. It affects weather"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:10", "text": "ecosystems. Ecosystems. And if you look at this year's hurricanes, dude, they are taking that same track."}, {"start": "00:50:10", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "It's almost like something's just like shifting to where it's like instead because like they're not hitting the US."}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:21", "text": "They're all going that same path in the Atlantic. Yeah. And there's that one that's right now, but when this comes out,"}, {"start": "00:50:21", "end": "00:50:27", "text": "we don't know how devastating. Yeah. For Jamaica. Today Jamaica is getting hit by that Cat 5"}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:33", "text": "when we're filming. Yeah. Straight on. Straight. It's right over right now. Bigger than the island. It's They said"}, {"start": "00:50:33", "end": "00:50:42", "text": "the the eyes bigger than the island. No, like the the the widespread wind from a Cat 5 is miles bigger than the"}, {"start": "00:50:42", "end": "00:50:48", "text": "island itself. So it's just Cat 5 winds just sitting over Jamaica right now. Dear Lord, dude."}, {"start": "00:50:48", "end": "00:50:53", "text": "Yeah, that's so scary. And it popped out of nowhere. Yeah, like the rainstorm last night. Yes,"}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "dude. It's wild, man. What's going on? I mean, let's not pretend that bugs"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:04", "text": "being modified, that weather manipulation, all this stuff isn't happening and isn't real."}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:10", "text": "It's been in the books, in courtrooms, documents, CIA, FBI, all this stuff."}, {"start": "00:51:10", "end": "00:51:16", "text": "It's happening. And so, we just don't know what we're going to be reading about in 30 years, like, oh yeah, in 2025, they were doing this, they got"}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:21", "text": "caught in that, and they had, you know, the documents got declassified later on. It's like, we we're living in things"}, {"start": "00:51:21", "end": "00:51:27", "text": "that we don't even know. We're surrounded by it. Yeah. And it's like there it if it is being manipulated,"}, {"start": "00:51:27", "end": "00:51:34", "text": "you're playing with people's lives and it's crazy. You're affecting these people's lives beyond like that's so"}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:41", "text": "wild. I had a real moment of panic last night when the when the rain was that intense. I was thinking about what happened"}, {"start": "00:51:41", "end": "00:51:47", "text": "uh in Asheville. Yeah. And then I remembered I live in Florida. I don't live in the mountains. Yeah. She kept on looking out the"}, {"start": "00:51:47", "end": "00:51:53", "text": "window. I'm like, \"You you scared or something?\" She's like, \"Yeah.\" I'm like there's like we are completely fine."}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:52:00", "text": "I like I I was worried we were going to wash away or like a mudslide was going to happen. Yeah. It would take so much for that lake to like flood where it would hit"}, {"start": "00:52:00", "end": "00:52:06", "text": "your house. Oh yeah. It would take so much. I mean it be like be like 100 ft of rain. Yeah. Yeah. Big time. The girls were"}, {"start": "00:52:06", "end": "00:52:12", "text": "worried last night too cuz I was just like, \"Yeah, there's flooding happening.\" I was like I had to tell them like but it's not in our not in our"}, {"start": "00:52:12", "end": "00:52:17", "text": "area. And it's like you're we're good. And it's like but what the hoopers and the Warrens they live over there too and"}, {"start": "00:52:17", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "Andrew and P. And I was like, they they are we're we're fine. We're good. Just show them the video running for"}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:28", "text": "real. It's super scary stuff. Yeah, that's the tough thing about weather."}, {"start": "00:52:28", "end": "00:52:36", "text": "It's like that you you can't there's no protection from that. I know. Like that you're just out there. Mhm. Speaking of super scary stuff."}, {"start": "00:52:36", "end": "00:52:41", "text": "Yeah, actually I had something to uh tell you. I have an update on an alien probe."}, {"start": "00:52:41", "end": "00:52:49", "text": "Are we going to take a ad right after this break, so don't go anywhere. Sounds good."}, {"start": "00:52:51", "end": "00:52:57", "text": "Sunday cool swag.com baby it's for you"}, {"start": "00:52:57", "end": "00:53:02", "text": "it's for you Sunday coolswag.com"}, {"start": "00:53:02", "end": "00:53:08", "text": "baby it's for you it's for you"}, {"start": "00:53:08", "end": "00:53:15", "text": "and cash shirts stickers and hats they're all for you as a matter of fact"}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "it's all for you. It's all for you."}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:28", "text": "[Applause] [Music]"}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:35", "text": "I didn't know where you were going. I thought it was all for you. I thought it was the Oh, fast."}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "[Music] You got a Do you have a vibe on our Airbnb host?"}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:46", "text": "Oh, super nice lady. Dude, apparently Franklin is like the Beverly Hills of Tennessee. I know."}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:52", "text": "Yeah, it's crazy. You want to uh send them a message and see what it would take for me to harvest"}, {"start": "00:53:52", "end": "00:53:58", "text": "an animal off of their property? Not doing that. Yeah, you could take that one, Andrew."}, {"start": "00:53:58", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "That's all you. How do I get a hold of her? Smoke signal. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:09", "text": "Carrier pigeon. I am I am going to bring just my recurve. Um because the guys who taught me how to shoot are going to be there"}, {"start": "00:54:09", "end": "00:54:15", "text": "and so they were like I guess they're bringing their stuff too. Oh cool. But bring your bowling ball too."}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:21", "text": "I got to bring something every time we go. But uh so funny if we get"}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:26", "text": "it was funny. I brought a bowling ball cuz they said we were bowling and I have a ball. But we went but not"}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:32", "text": "you can't go about bowling and use their balls. But it was in Nashville. It wasn't just like weighted."}, {"start": "00:54:32", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "People don't really know it was in Nashville when we were going. And so we were taking a trip all the way for a conference and he was like the one thing"}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:44", "text": "he packed is a bowling ball. We had a trailer. Why not dropping it and we didn't even end up bowling"}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:50", "text": "and it was like a hipster diner called a bowling alley. The Pine Grove. Oh yeah, I went there. Pine Grove Social"}, {"start": "00:54:50", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "or whatever. Has nothing to do with bowling. Oh, you want to bowl? It's like 6 months out. They get a bucket."}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:55:02", "text": "Yeah, it it is very pretentious. It's a very cool vibe. The place is awesome looking. But the people over there that"}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:08", "text": "we encountered, they're just typical hipsters. If I go to a bowling alley and it doesn't reek of like old carpet and"}, {"start": "00:55:08", "end": "00:55:13", "text": "cigarette smoke, it's not my vibe. Bowling alleys are not my vibe period."}, {"start": "00:55:13", "end": "00:55:19", "text": "Um, but I do want to take the girls because a I love bowling alleys, dude. I was basically raised in one. My"}, {"start": "00:55:19", "end": "00:55:25", "text": "mom was a waitress at a place called the Pen and Q. So, we just pronounce it penny Q. And no joke, it was this huge"}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:31", "text": "place that had a diner in it, like a breakfast diner. So good. Wow. And then they had an arcade and"}, {"start": "00:55:31", "end": "00:55:36", "text": "then they had a pool billiard room and then the whole back rooms were a bowling"}, {"start": "00:55:36", "end": "00:55:41", "text": "alley. And so when she was working, we would just play in the arcade and walk around. It was just the coolest"}, {"start": "00:55:41", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "thing in the world. And there's like a 15 foot uh pin outside and it's just that classic"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:52", "text": "classic cool little bowling alley. Yeah. White Fish, Montana. Go check it out. Do we even have a bowling alley in this"}, {"start": "00:55:52", "end": "00:55:58", "text": "area anymore? Oh yeah. Via Via Port Via. And then there's one in uh isn't that the one in downtown near downtown"}, {"start": "00:55:58", "end": "00:56:04", "text": "Monta is still open? I don't know if that one's still open. Right behind Walmart. No, that one got shut down."}, {"start": "00:56:04", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "Dang. Yeah. Bummer. Yeah, Via is pretty fun. There's a dude on TikTok who's like, I bought a bowling alley and he's like"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "trying to bring it back. Oh yeah, I saw that. He's like painted like mural. He's paying guys to do murals on the side and stuff."}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:20", "text": "I hope he I hope he succeeds. Go support your local bowling alley. Yeah, do it. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:56:20", "end": "00:56:26", "text": "they're the best. It was such fun memories as a kid. That's true. Speaking of fun memories. Question corner. Question corner."}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:31", "text": "Question corner with Le where the questions are fresh on her mind. You took me off guard. I'm ready."}, {"start": "00:56:31", "end": "00:56:39", "text": "Off guard. Would you rather? This is a gross one. Doing a lot of would you rathers lately."}, {"start": "00:56:39", "end": "00:56:44", "text": "You guys respond better to would you rather. I do love them. I could do a whole podcast. I told I'm telling Josh that we"}, {"start": "00:56:44", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "could do a whole podcast on would you rathers. Okay. We just do one and we just debate the heck out of it."}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:54", "text": "Yeah. Find good ones. But then you guys won't be true to your opinions because I bet you agree on more than you disagree on."}, {"start": "00:56:54", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "You'd be surprised. That's why I literally I want to start a podcast, would you rather podcast with Alan Thomas because I'm like we never"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:05", "text": "agree on our would you rathers really and it's the best. Whenever we sit down, we just talk about him. We talk for"}, {"start": "00:57:05", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "hours about him. It's the best. A he's the best. We should start phoning Allan. That would be good."}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:17", "text": "Okay. Would you rather a straw This is gross. All right. Be connected"}, {"start": "00:57:17", "end": "00:57:24", "text": "to your nose that directly dumps into your mouth. So you eat all your boogers. E"}, {"start": "00:57:24", "end": "00:57:30", "text": "straw from nose to mouth. Yes. Constantly. Constantly. Any booger that exits your nose goes into your mouth."}, {"start": "00:57:30", "end": "00:57:36", "text": "But you don't have any boogers in your nose then. Like there's no snob, no boogers or anything. Correct. So So technically your nose is"}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "clear. Where does the straw end? On my tongue or the back of my throat? Tongue. You have to taste it. Gross. Okay. Continue. Second option."}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:50", "text": "Um or every time you have to go pee, you can only pee in your pants, not a toilet or any other pee receptacle. You always"}, {"start": "00:57:50", "end": "00:57:55", "text": "have to pee in your pants. That'd be toast. And you wear a diaper then, right? No, you can't wear a diaper."}, {"start": "00:57:55", "end": "00:58:01", "text": "No, you can't wear a diaper. It has to be obviously you peed in your pants. That's be embarrassing."}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:07", "text": "You have to You'd have to do a straw. Would that be to pee in your pants all the time?"}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:12", "text": "Yeah. I mean, you don't constantly have to have changes of clothes. And you can have a smaller straw. Smell like pee all the Is it does it"}, {"start": "00:58:12", "end": "00:58:18", "text": "have to be can it be like a small discrete straw that goes between my my mustache or can does it have to be like a silly straw that goes around my head"}, {"start": "00:58:18", "end": "00:58:24", "text": "or something? To me it can be an invisible straw. The whole point is that you have to eat every booger that you have in your body."}, {"start": "00:58:24", "end": "00:58:30", "text": "I mean after a while it's an acquired taste, you know, and you get used to it. Little salt bomb."}, {"start": "00:58:30", "end": "00:58:36", "text": "Yeah. It actually would probably pair well with a lot of foods, honestly. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah. You go to some white woman's house"}, {"start": "00:58:36", "end": "00:58:42", "text": "and she doesn't have a lot of seasoning on her food. No problem, Susan. Boogers. I got a booger straw."}, {"start": "00:58:42", "end": "00:58:48", "text": "Squeeze in. Pull. Yeah, that's a good one."}, {"start": "00:58:48", "end": "00:58:54", "text": "Oh my god. Yeah, I think I think the straw is the obvious one. I think after the first couple pe's it would be funny,"}, {"start": "00:58:54", "end": "00:58:59", "text": "but after but after that I mean the first couple would be hilarious. Yeah, I've always wanted to like I'm saving"}, {"start": "00:58:59", "end": "00:59:05", "text": "that day for when I like pee on command like pee my pants on purpose when I'm around you or like when we're at like a hangout or something and it's"}, {"start": "00:59:05", "end": "00:59:12", "text": "truly the funniest thing you could do but after a while it would just become so annoying. What if you pull that card"}, {"start": "00:59:12", "end": "00:59:20", "text": "and the you're misreading the vibe? That's what I'm saying. And everybody's like, it's it's such a fine line of where it's"}, {"start": "00:59:20", "end": "00:59:27", "text": "like, why would you do that? And then you like you try to pass it off like I did it on purpose and you're like okay. Yeah, but did you though? Are you"}, {"start": "00:59:27", "end": "00:59:34", "text": "good? What's going on? Is everything okay at home, Andy? Oh man, guys, it was a joke."}, {"start": "00:59:34", "end": "00:59:40", "text": "It would have to be such a There's like a mental barrier I think we all have. You would literally have to peel away this mental barrier just to be able to"}, {"start": "00:59:40", "end": "00:59:46", "text": "be in your pants. Oh, I could easily do it. Yeah, I could for sure easily do it. Did you see those would you rathers I"}, {"start": "00:59:46", "end": "00:59:51", "text": "sent on Instagram? No. No. The first one was would you rather every time you sneeze, you have"}, {"start": "00:59:51", "end": "00:59:57", "text": "to yell out a slur. Oh gosh. Or every time uh Oh gosh, what was it?"}, {"start": "00:59:57", "end": "01:00:02", "text": "It was uh every time, let me see. I'm sorry. Every time you sneeze, you let"}, {"start": "01:00:02", "end": "01:00:09", "text": "out a slur. You have to yell it. where every time you burp, uh, you have to punch the closest person next to you."}, {"start": "01:00:09", "end": "01:00:14", "text": "Oh, no. I would do burp. Burp. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:00:14", "end": "01:00:20", "text": "Uh, slur because I would just hold in my sneezes. Sure. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:00:20", "end": "01:00:26", "text": "Just picturing the slur that you may choose. You could do the pee thing where just"}, {"start": "01:00:26", "end": "01:00:33", "text": "like you literally just don't drink water until you go home. Get home. Yeah. Just be dehydrated. This doesn't work for me somehow. Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:00:33", "end": "01:00:38", "text": "like I will like specifically not drink anything when I'm going to travel and still got to pee."}, {"start": "01:00:38", "end": "01:00:43", "text": "I I'm thinking that Aida is starting to inherit Josh's bladder size because she had to pee like 10 times the other day"}, {"start": "01:00:43", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "when we went out and she even recognized it. She was like, \"Why do I have to pee so much?\" It's a hereditary thing."}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:56", "text": "Yeah. Oh, Andrew, with that beat. Got to go pee."}, {"start": "01:00:56", "end": "01:01:04", "text": "Andrew's got a real got to pee his pants. Andrew. Andrew. Andrew. Oh no,"}, {"start": "01:01:04", "end": "01:01:10", "text": "that's pee. Our table is broken."}, {"start": "01:01:11", "end": "01:01:17", "text": "All right, I will confess kind of phone this one in a little bit, but I got two."}, {"start": "01:01:17", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "Uh, just say which one you guys want to watch first. The yellow. All right, I'm going to have to bleep"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:28", "text": "it, but go ahead and play it. Oh gosh. Three, two, one."}, {"start": "01:01:28", "end": "01:01:35", "text": "Oh, I didn't realize there's music. This is not urine, right? No. Husband made his wife an ice cream. This"}, {"start": "01:01:35", "end": "01:01:43", "text": "is grounds for divorce. That music will get flagged. Yeah. Yeah. What is it? What is she chewing?"}, {"start": "01:01:43", "end": "01:01:49", "text": "What is that? Is that raw? Oh my goodness."}, {"start": "01:01:49", "end": "01:01:56", "text": "I was going to say it looks misshapen. Yikes. It kind of looked kind of staged though. I don't know. That's Yeah, that that was"}, {"start": "01:01:56", "end": "01:02:02", "text": "my hesitancy. gadget head. If Josh handed me a suspect ice cream cone, you think I would just start licking it? I'd"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:07", "text": "be like, \"What are you doing?\" Or if you bent something, pull the entire thing out. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:02:07", "end": "01:02:13", "text": "Yeah. It was staged. Yeah. All right. Ready? Second one. Yeah. Three, two, one."}, {"start": "01:02:13", "end": "01:02:17", "text": "Oh no. Oh no."}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:26", "text": "[Laughter] Oh my goodness."}, {"start": "01:02:26", "end": "01:02:33", "text": "For those of you not watching, just listening, a guy just slurped a whole"}, {"start": "01:02:33", "end": "01:02:39", "text": "rotten black banana, cut off the top, and just"}, {"start": "01:02:41", "end": "01:02:46", "text": "Oh, man. Why is that so vulgar? Oh gosh,"}, {"start": "01:02:46", "end": "01:02:52", "text": "that is brutal, dude. Pretty bad. Oh, my eyes are watering. How did it get to that point?"}, {"start": "01:02:52", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "I've never seen a banana that liquidy. Oh, I have. Yeah, for sure. How much for you to do it?"}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:04", "text": "Oh, I'm not going to say that because then you're going to show up next week with a freaking banana next week. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:03:04", "end": "01:03:09", "text": "Yeah. Oh, no. Oh my gosh. I literally thought you had"}, {"start": "01:03:09", "end": "01:03:15", "text": "one. I was like, \"No way.\" So funny. Golly, dude."}, {"start": "01:03:15", "end": "01:03:21", "text": "Speaking about slurping down some rotten bananas. Yeah. What about it? Did you guys hear in the past two weeks,"}, {"start": "01:03:21", "end": "01:03:27", "text": "three people have died at Disney? Disney's got I've seen this dude. What happened though?"}, {"start": "01:03:27", "end": "01:03:33", "text": "One of them was by jumping in the um Yeah. What's that hotel?"}, {"start": "01:03:33", "end": "01:03:38", "text": "Self-inflicted. Yeah. Apparently that's a common place for people to do that. Very high up."}, {"start": "01:03:38", "end": "01:03:43", "text": "And um Taylor said my brother his wife's"}, {"start": "01:03:43", "end": "01:03:51", "text": "uncle. So I don't know what that would make for Taylor. A uncle-in-law. Unclein-law. Yeah. Um he was a fireman"}, {"start": "01:03:51", "end": "01:03:59", "text": "at the Disney like he was a Disney fireman like that whatever county Ry Creek. Yeah. And he said it was just the worst"}, {"start": "01:03:59", "end": "01:04:04", "text": "where because like Disney's you know we've talked about it before we're like no one dies at no one's ever died at Disney. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:04:04", "end": "01:04:10", "text": "Cuz I always bring them off site. Sure. And he said it was literally like at the Contemporary and stuff like"}, {"start": "01:04:10", "end": "01:04:16", "text": "people would jump and they have like a um covering that"}, {"start": "01:04:16", "end": "01:04:22", "text": "they keep in the hotel for that scenario where they instantly cover it so people up top can't see anything."}, {"start": "01:04:22", "end": "01:04:28", "text": "Just like a Mickey like inflatable or something. Oh my gosh, how morbid and awful. But there was something. There's one"}, {"start": "01:04:28", "end": "01:04:34", "text": "where like this lady or dude, I mean basically they're like their head was"}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:41", "text": "gone gone and they still had to bring them off or try to resuscitate them when they're"}, {"start": "01:04:41", "end": "01:04:47", "text": "clearly just to get a slight pulse back to where they get off and then they're like, \"Oh yeah, they're dead.\""}, {"start": "01:04:47", "end": "01:04:53", "text": "That is insane. That is insane, isn't it? Like that's grounds for suing. I know. But now apparently it's come out"}, {"start": "01:04:53", "end": "01:04:58", "text": "the past two weeks, three people have died. Yeah. At Disney. A Disney World or Disneyland or both? Disney World."}, {"start": "01:04:58", "end": "01:05:04", "text": "Gosh, man. Yeah, the contemporary. What's going on? It's It's your orange cable touching"}, {"start": "01:05:04", "end": "01:05:09", "text": "that power strip. Yeah, I've been hearing a little bit. There we go. We got it. Nope. We got it, folks."}, {"start": "01:05:09", "end": "01:05:15", "text": "Yep. Nice. What were the other two? H I forget. One of them I couldn't find anything on."}, {"start": "01:05:15", "end": "01:05:22", "text": "Yeah, one of them nothing's been released. At least last I looked. I imagine they cover that stuff up quick. Oh, yeah, dude. Yeah, there was one when"}, {"start": "01:05:22", "end": "01:05:28", "text": "I was working at Epcot. It was didn't happen while I was there, but one of my managers told me about it. This guy was like trying to see the fireworks closer"}, {"start": "01:05:28", "end": "01:05:34", "text": "and he was climbing up on a rail or something impaled by the fence."}, {"start": "01:05:34", "end": "01:05:40", "text": "Dang. And um apparently he didn't die there. Technically he totally did."}, {"start": "01:05:40", "end": "01:05:47", "text": "Disney. I mean they they've got everything covered lawyer wise. I mean just to make sure that none of that stuff comes out."}, {"start": "01:05:47", "end": "01:05:53", "text": "But that's Yeah, you can't ignore those headlines though. Three people. That's wild. What I understand is like why does"}, {"start": "01:05:53", "end": "01:05:58", "text": "it matter people just die of natural things all the time in any random place? Yeah."}, {"start": "01:05:58", "end": "01:06:03", "text": "Why do they care so much? Yeah. I don't know. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:06:03", "end": "01:06:10", "text": "Headlines, headers, voters, basketball."}, {"start": "01:06:10", "end": "01:06:16", "text": "Yes, dude. Have you heard about this? This is crazy. Speaking of everything, all these news headlines are like from a"}, {"start": "01:06:16", "end": "01:06:21", "text": "movie. Yeah, man. The FBI just did a bust on a"}, {"start": "01:06:21", "end": "01:06:27", "text": "ring of NBA players, NBA coaches in the Italian mafia."}, {"start": "01:06:27", "end": "01:06:33", "text": "Stop it right now. What do you mean? For fixing games. Sports gambling."}, {"start": "01:06:33", "end": "01:06:40", "text": "My gosh. Yeah. Absolutely wild. Chanty Bilips. Legends of this. Wasn't I don't want to"}, {"start": "01:06:40", "end": "01:06:46", "text": "throw actually I'm not going to guess because I don't want to put that on someone's name who wasn't involved in"}, {"start": "01:06:46", "end": "01:06:53", "text": "it. Well, this is all it's all proven they're all innocent until proven guilty. I was about to guess names from memory,"}, {"start": "01:06:53", "end": "01:06:58", "text": "but I don't know that I know. Oh, I mean that the thing is who knows, dude, who's actually involved in this"}, {"start": "01:06:58", "end": "01:07:04", "text": "because uh I think it's what's his name? I think it's Darren Jones,"}, {"start": "01:07:04", "end": "01:07:10", "text": "uh Terry Rosair, Rosier, and then Chanty Bilips, which I used to watch Chanty Bips play for the Nuggets and stuff like"}, {"start": "01:07:10", "end": "01:07:18", "text": "that. It was like these are huge people. So, we have coaches and players, former, still playing, whatever, who got busted."}, {"start": "01:07:18", "end": "01:07:24", "text": "And you're people are going back and looking through all of these games that were super super weird. I mean, you have"}, {"start": "01:07:24", "end": "01:07:31", "text": "guys who I think Terry Rosier was one of the guys who uh went out and told people that he would fake an injury so that he"}, {"start": "01:07:31", "end": "01:07:37", "text": "would his, you know, his stats would be lower so it would cover the spread and everything like that. And they had everyone had"}, {"start": "01:07:37", "end": "01:07:43", "text": "the foot thing. Yeah. Just a little, you know, and then faked it, went off and everything like that. But you're even going back to game"}, {"start": "01:07:43", "end": "01:07:51", "text": "one of the finals with the um the Cavaliers and I think it was Golden State where um golly, what is his name?"}, {"start": "01:07:51", "end": "01:07:58", "text": "It's a It was one of the most dingest moves. They get the guy gets a rebound and it's like seconds left and he runs"}, {"start": "01:07:58", "end": "01:08:04", "text": "instead of taking a shot or going toward passing it to LeBron, he runs out and holds the ball and lets the time run"}, {"start": "01:08:04", "end": "01:08:09", "text": "out. And then LeBron's looking at him like, \"What are you doing?\" But guess who the the um the uh"}, {"start": "01:08:09", "end": "01:08:15", "text": "assistant coach of that team was at the Cavaliers that time? Darren Jones. The guy who one of the three guys in the"}, {"start": "01:08:15", "end": "01:08:20", "text": "that's in the fix right now. Shoot, dude. So, dude, this is so much deeper than we"}, {"start": "01:08:20", "end": "01:08:28", "text": "know. So much more people are involved. I guarantee it. How could you not? Dang. It's wild, dude. I mean, it's crazy."}, {"start": "01:08:28", "end": "01:08:34", "text": "With the Italian mafia. Italian mafia. And the the dude's making I I mean millions upon millions of"}, {"start": "01:08:34", "end": "01:08:40", "text": "dollars a year and he's doing it for $50,000 of winnings. Like I don't know"}, {"start": "01:08:40", "end": "01:08:47", "text": "if it's either I don't know if it's probably because they're in debt somehow in debt or you're just you're addicted"}, {"start": "01:08:47", "end": "01:08:53", "text": "to gambling or it's just greed. It sounds like an in debt thing if it's with the Italian mafia."}, {"start": "01:08:53", "end": "01:08:58", "text": "Yeah, it sounds like Yeah. Fix the game. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Do this and you'll live and you'll"}, {"start": "01:08:58", "end": "01:09:03", "text": "get a little money from it. I bet your foot's going to hurt tonight, huh? Yeah. What size of shoes you got? I got"}, {"start": "01:09:03", "end": "01:09:11", "text": "a good concrete pair, you'll be sleeping with the fishes. But that's that's my whole thought, too, is like say you got involved with them"}, {"start": "01:09:11", "end": "01:09:17", "text": "or just became acquainted with them. But then if they really wanted to coersse something out of you, you know, like"}, {"start": "01:09:17", "end": "01:09:22", "text": "imagine imagine you're playing sports, you've got your families, and then there's like someone said someone who"}, {"start": "01:09:22", "end": "01:09:27", "text": "you know has that kind of power says something cryptic like that to you and you're like the whole time you're"}, {"start": "01:09:27", "end": "01:09:33", "text": "playing you're like were they just like did I just get threatened and you know what I mean? Like Yeah, for sure."}, {"start": "01:09:33", "end": "01:09:39", "text": "It's weird. It's enough to make you and then you'd be off your game. Yeah. So people like he threw the game. I saw"}, {"start": "01:09:39", "end": "01:09:44", "text": "him talking with his dude. Then you're like, \"Actually, I just I'm not sure if my family just got threatened.\""}, {"start": "01:09:44", "end": "01:09:50", "text": "Yeah. Austin Austin told me one of the coaches that got caught, there was some game like someone pulled it up and it"}, {"start": "01:09:50", "end": "01:09:57", "text": "was like a big game. Again, I don't really watch basketball, but it was their top two um scorers,"}, {"start": "01:09:57", "end": "01:10:03", "text": "shooters, whatever you call them. Yeah. And there was like a minute left and they were losing. Not by a lot, but the"}, {"start": "01:10:03", "end": "01:10:11", "text": "coach pulled both of them off. Sat him. There's a time where he also didn't call a timeout when they had one more timeout to call and it was like"}, {"start": "01:10:11", "end": "01:10:17", "text": "literally right before the end of the game they had the ball and it's like what are you doing? It's crazy and it just Yeah, it's just all it"}, {"start": "01:10:17", "end": "01:10:23", "text": "takes. They just got caught. You wonder how many like how many like NFL soccer, you"}, {"start": "01:10:23", "end": "01:10:30", "text": "know, like everywhere. I know, dude. That's what I'm saying. Gambling is going to be a huge issue 20 years from now cuz it's on available on your phones"}, {"start": "01:10:30", "end": "01:10:36", "text": "now. Kids are doing it. It's going it's one of the most addictive things out there. It's gonna be one of the biggest"}, {"start": "01:10:36", "end": "01:10:41", "text": "problems ever. Yeah. I see all these kids that are like Jenzers playing blackjack on their phone"}, {"start": "01:10:41", "end": "01:10:47", "text": "like while shopping and stuff. Like I'm just going to do a quick hit. Yep. Oh, that was 400 bucks."}, {"start": "01:10:47", "end": "01:10:53", "text": "Yeah. They're going to be betting on ninjas of butterflies soon. Yeah, probably. Like how many times do you think uh Josh"}, {"start": "01:10:53", "end": "01:10:59", "text": "is going to say speaking of? Speaking of, this episode is brought to you by DraftKings."}, {"start": "01:10:59", "end": "01:11:04", "text": "Thank Make a lesson pen. Huh. All right. All right."}, {"start": "01:11:04", "end": "01:11:10", "text": "It's real deal, huh? Real money. I I went through I went through McDonald's this morning to pick up some breakfast"}, {"start": "01:11:10", "end": "01:11:16", "text": "for breakfast for the girls. I got cash back. I just had a dollar and change back. And she hands me a dollar. I I"}, {"start": "01:11:16", "end": "01:11:21", "text": "don't have it on me, but it's in my It's in my wallet. It's a It's two/ird of a dollar."}, {"start": "01:11:21", "end": "01:11:27", "text": "Completely tore. Ripped. It's ripped. Completely 2/3 of a dollar. And it's like you can use it if you have"}, {"start": "01:11:27", "end": "01:11:33", "text": "the other piece. Yeah. It's a completely impossible dollar. And you had it in the register and she gave"}, {"start": "01:11:33", "end": "01:11:39", "text": "it to me. Another one. No, because I drove away and like I went to the second window, but I'm like, \"How"}, {"start": "01:11:39", "end": "01:11:44", "text": "do you believe me if I say, \"Hey, you she gave me this dollar I made.\" I was like, \"It's a dollar, I guess.\" But I was like, \"Whatever. I should just put"}, {"start": "01:11:44", "end": "01:11:51", "text": "in the little charity bin thing.\" I'm like, \"It's their problem now.\" The needy people. Yeah, for real. If they need it that"}, {"start": "01:11:51", "end": "01:11:56", "text": "bad, they'll fix it. Dude, I um funny story. I was uh replacing some of the"}, {"start": "01:11:56", "end": "01:12:04", "text": "doorork knobs in our house this weekend and I was doing the one in our bedroom and I put in uh the hardware for like"}, {"start": "01:12:04", "end": "01:12:11", "text": "the insert. So you have the two doors. I put it in and I put the other latch on the actual door for you know the glues"}, {"start": "01:12:11", "end": "01:12:17", "text": "uh screws into the trim and I was testing to make sure it clears right. You locked in. Dude,"}, {"start": "01:12:17", "end": "01:12:24", "text": "I locked myself in my room. Did you push it and it fall off or something or? I just I literally I was like messing"}, {"start": "01:12:24", "end": "01:12:29", "text": "with it with the screwdriver and I was like like for some reason it got like 10\u00b0 hotter in there cuz I was just like"}, {"start": "01:12:29", "end": "01:12:35", "text": "so sweating and I was like Kelsey's out of town. Of course this happens. And so I'm literally I'm just like thinking"}, {"start": "01:12:35", "end": "01:12:41", "text": "through it and then I'm like Demi. And then she's like what? And I was like I need your help babe. I said go get a"}, {"start": "01:12:41", "end": "01:12:46", "text": "butter knife. And I was trying to get her just to kind of like like literally just break into this thing. Yeah. And then I was just messing with"}, {"start": "01:12:46", "end": "01:12:53", "text": "it a bunch. L luckily I got it. So funny. But golly, dude. I was like I I was looking my window doesn't really come"}, {"start": "01:12:53", "end": "01:13:00", "text": "up. I would have had to move my whole bed. I was like this is the worst timing in the world. That is so funny."}, {"start": "01:13:00", "end": "01:13:05", "text": "Not so um I was watching a video the other day. Videos now spark like panic"}, {"start": "01:13:05", "end": "01:13:11", "text": "attacks within me. Which ones? I saw one. It was you know those like at a like a theme park or something. the"}, {"start": "01:13:11", "end": "01:13:17", "text": "swing where you're sitting like a swing and it spins and it goes high or like a carnival or whatever. Okay. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:13:17", "end": "01:13:25", "text": "This one like the ones that are like chains like you just have Yeah. Yeah. I hate those. This one went up I think it was 170 ft"}, {"start": "01:13:25", "end": "01:13:30", "text": "or something. I've done this one, dude. 170 ft and ride stopped and so they're just sitting on a little wood plank with"}, {"start": "01:13:30", "end": "01:13:36", "text": "the chains 170 ft in the air. They're not strapped in. They're just I mean they got the little like buckle"}, {"start": "01:13:36", "end": "01:13:44", "text": "but not like a And I'm watching. I'm like I would I would freak out, dude. Yeah. Somehow sitting up there is"}, {"start": "01:13:44", "end": "01:13:50", "text": "worse than actually spinning around. Oh my god, dude. I I I did that. I took some of my youth group uh kids. I got invited to an"}, {"start": "01:13:50", "end": "01:13:56", "text": "event and uh it was like for his birthday and we're going and we're up there and he's just like, \"Can you please go on this one? I really want to"}, {"start": "01:13:56", "end": "01:14:02", "text": "go.\" I'm like, \"Dude, I hate heights. I can't unsecure heights. I can't do.\" And so he talked me into it and I said, \"I"}, {"start": "01:14:02", "end": "01:14:08", "text": "have to do it.\" And so we're up there and dude, I am panicking. It's one of those incredibly high ones in Kansas"}, {"start": "01:14:08", "end": "01:14:14", "text": "City. I'm freaking out and I'm screaming, \"I hate this. I hate this.\""}, {"start": "01:14:14", "end": "01:14:20", "text": "And he's like, uh, he's like, I was like, \"I I I hate my life.\" I was screaming, \"I hate my life. I hate my"}, {"start": "01:14:20", "end": "01:14:25", "text": "life.\" And then my buddy David, he was like, \"Don't worry, it's almost over.\" And I was like, \"My life?\" Like I"}, {"start": "01:14:25", "end": "01:14:31", "text": "literally had to go for my life. I was just like, \"What are you talking about?\" He's like, \"No, the ride.\" I'm like, \"Okay, dude. It was the worst. I hate"}, {"start": "01:14:31", "end": "01:14:37", "text": "them, dude. Oh, they're the worst. They're terrible. There's been so many accidents coming out lately with videos of like carnival rides breaking and"}, {"start": "01:14:37", "end": "01:14:44", "text": "stuff. I know. I saw one where literally like it was like one of those the scrambler almost things and it came loose and the girl"}, {"start": "01:14:44", "end": "01:14:50", "text": "broke her legs or something and got like trapped underneath. It's terrible. You know the the big one? It's just like"}, {"start": "01:14:50", "end": "01:14:56", "text": "you sit in like a typically it's a dragon. Yeah. But did you see where it broke off"}, {"start": "01:14:56", "end": "01:15:01", "text": "the bottom and it when it swung up it was like teetering and so I never the"}, {"start": "01:15:01", "end": "01:15:06", "text": "video never showed if the thing tipped but yeah I don't like it rides man you love amusement parks but carnival"}, {"start": "01:15:06", "end": "01:15:12", "text": "rides are just a it's a risk you gamble man nine out of 10 nine times out of 10"}, {"start": "01:15:12", "end": "01:15:18", "text": "you're going to be fine but it's always scary it's pretty low odds nine out of 10"}, {"start": "01:15:18", "end": "01:15:24", "text": "I mean sure I guess but speaking of scary what's talk about this three Atlas"}, {"start": "01:15:24", "end": "01:15:30", "text": "again, dude. Okay. I've literally not watched any of it because I knew you would be prepping to tell us."}, {"start": "01:15:30", "end": "01:15:36", "text": "Here's the thing, though. We're filming now. We were filming two weeks in advance because of the Florida"}, {"start": "01:15:36", "end": "01:15:41", "text": "Tour. Yeah. Now we're filming one week in advance because we're going to Nashville, Larry Con."}, {"start": "01:15:41", "end": "01:15:46", "text": "Um, but do you want to tell our next guests or next couple of guests? No, we'll see."}, {"start": "01:15:46", "end": "01:15:55", "text": "Okay, we'll see. Be a surprise. All right. Can you give me a quick recap on what's the three Atlas? Sure. It is the third observable"}, {"start": "01:15:55", "end": "01:16:02", "text": "outer um or uh comet or object that is outside"}, {"start": "01:16:02", "end": "01:16:08", "text": "of our solar system that has entered our solar system. So like when we keep talking about"}, {"start": "01:16:08", "end": "01:16:14", "text": "something that's coming to get us, it's this thing. Yeah. Yeah. The one that was going around the sun. Yeah. Yeah. So the last time this happened was"}, {"start": "01:16:14", "end": "01:16:20", "text": "actually in October of 2017 and it was the uh it started with an O."}, {"start": "01:16:20", "end": "01:16:26", "text": "Um, oh, I forget what it was called. I can't remember, but it was the second one. This one's the third one. They're calling the"}, {"start": "01:16:26", "end": "01:16:32", "text": "threeey atlas and we've talked about it before of just like so many weird"}, {"start": "01:16:32", "end": "01:16:39", "text": "variables about it like its size, it's like um what it's made out of, its"}, {"start": "01:16:39", "end": "01:16:45", "text": "trajectory, how it's going like anti-gra, like it's going against the gravitational pool of stuff."}, {"start": "01:16:45", "end": "01:16:53", "text": "And but the the Harvard professor um who's like he believes there's a"}, {"start": "01:16:53", "end": "01:17:00", "text": "probability that is alien technology. Mhm. Um he said cuz it's about to go around"}, {"start": "01:17:00", "end": "01:17:06", "text": "the sun. Like so we're about to lose sight of it. And he has a theory that it's going to go circle around the sun"}, {"start": "01:17:06", "end": "01:17:12", "text": "and then come right to Earth. Oh gosh. That's his theory. based on science."}, {"start": "01:17:12", "end": "01:17:19", "text": "Based on I have no idea. Based on a gut feeling. I know he's a smart dude. He's like the head of the chair of astronomy at"}, {"start": "01:17:19", "end": "01:17:24", "text": "Harvard or something. Very cool. Wow. Very cool. But um I thought I thought it did already come"}, {"start": "01:17:24", "end": "01:17:31", "text": "around the sun. No, it's not. It's entering now. But um he said basically I forget what"}, {"start": "01:17:31", "end": "01:17:38", "text": "he's like Swedish or something. He's like you should plan your holiday for before October 29th,"}, {"start": "01:17:38", "end": "01:17:44", "text": "like on Wednesday. Yeah. Oh, what if our holiday is on October 29th?"}, {"start": "01:17:44", "end": "01:17:51", "text": "He's just basically saying something's going to happen, but by the time this comes out, we'll all know. Yeah, maybe this doesn't drop."}, {"start": "01:17:51", "end": "01:17:58", "text": "Yeah, but what's creepy? This is a creepy thing. Um, which I don't know. Take it how you want it. That same dude"}, {"start": "01:17:58", "end": "01:18:06", "text": "that you've seen it before, the ball guy that like did the does the prophecy stuff. Yes. Yeah. He the Yeah. you like he"}, {"start": "01:18:06", "end": "01:18:11", "text": "brings in an alien spirit into his body. No, no, this is a different guy. This is a Christian guy."}, {"start": "01:18:11", "end": "01:18:18", "text": "Okay. Um I use that because I don't I don't know too much, but he predicted like Trump getting shot in the ear"}, {"start": "01:18:18", "end": "01:18:23", "text": "like months before that happened. I think I know what you're talking about. Yeah. But he basically had this"}, {"start": "01:18:23", "end": "01:18:30", "text": "revelation or this prophecy given to him of a object matching a lot of this same description"}, {"start": "01:18:30", "end": "01:18:35", "text": "stuff and then it coming circling around the sun and then appearing to Earth and"}, {"start": "01:18:35", "end": "01:18:40", "text": "he's like and it's this demonic deception this alien craft and it's"}, {"start": "01:18:40", "end": "01:18:45", "text": "going it like hovers above the ocean. It goes from country to country and I'm"}, {"start": "01:18:45", "end": "01:18:51", "text": "just like come on man. Oh boy. So, you think it's gonna happen?"}, {"start": "01:18:51", "end": "01:18:56", "text": "No. No. I mean, it would I mean, it would make sense to have like if they're going to have a plan, it's a long-term plan."}, {"start": "01:18:56", "end": "01:19:01", "text": "It's something that they talk about for months. It leads up to it. You've heard about it. I don't really know. I've"}, {"start": "01:19:01", "end": "01:19:06", "text": "heard about it though, you know, and like it just slowly integrate it into our like part of our daily talks and"}, {"start": "01:19:06", "end": "01:19:13", "text": "lives and then suddenly it's here. But it sounds a lot like what that Jeremy Corbel guy said where he said the news"}, {"start": "01:19:13", "end": "01:19:18", "text": "is going to be talking about this um this object coming towards"}, {"start": "01:19:18", "end": "01:19:26", "text": "uh Earth or whatever and then they're going to hint that it's alien technology and then it's going to redirect and come"}, {"start": "01:19:26", "end": "01:19:31", "text": "straight towards Earth and that's when they're going to drop this news that it is an alien aircraft. He's like it's all"}, {"start": "01:19:31", "end": "01:19:37", "text": "planned. Yeah. It's like I mean it makes sense if they're going to do it. I feel like this would be the smartest way to do it."}, {"start": "01:19:37", "end": "01:19:42", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah, listen, we we we knew about it, but we didn't think it was alien. There was It was We didn't"}, {"start": "01:19:42", "end": "01:19:48", "text": "know what it was, but now we know. And now we have to we have to band together, guys. Yeah. Yeah. We have to listen to our"}, {"start": "01:19:48", "end": "01:19:53", "text": "governments. There's so many people saying different things about it, it's hard to keep track of like what's accurate. Sure."}, {"start": "01:19:53", "end": "01:20:02", "text": "But what we do know is that it's super weird. It's super big and it's just doing all these anomalies that defy or"}, {"start": "01:20:02", "end": "01:20:08", "text": "go against the standard comet. Yeah. Like observable comet. Yeah. Now, I want to know because I've"}, {"start": "01:20:08", "end": "01:20:14", "text": "only heard about people from America or in America that are talking about this. So, I'm wondering if all you know we"}, {"start": "01:20:14", "end": "01:20:19", "text": "have international scientists that are also looking at this, astrologologists that are looking at it because if it's"}, {"start": "01:20:19", "end": "01:20:25", "text": "a worldwide thing, then that's a whole lot less uh, you know,"}, {"start": "01:20:25", "end": "01:20:31", "text": "conspiracy. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Like it's something that like everyone would have to be in on to make this happen. I don't"}, {"start": "01:20:31", "end": "01:20:36", "text": "know. But we don't have anything like that in the last four years. What do we have?"}, {"start": "01:20:36", "end": "01:20:43", "text": "Where everybody got in on some of course. Yeah. Um, who knows, man."}, {"start": "01:20:43", "end": "01:20:49", "text": "Yeah. But I'm just saying weird stuff. These next coming weeks, if you see"}, {"start": "01:20:49", "end": "01:20:55", "text": "something, know that you heard about it first on Ninjas Butterflies."}, {"start": "01:20:55", "end": "01:21:01", "text": "What What was that thing that you saw in your yard on your birthday? The airplane. No, it was a balloon."}, {"start": "01:21:01", "end": "01:21:07", "text": "Oh, got it. I was just like I tried to make it a thing. I was like traumatized our daughter too."}, {"start": "01:21:07", "end": "01:21:13", "text": "I can't believe you didn't text to us still. I was like why did he just post it to us to us? I wanted to see what you if you guys would say anything back. I was going to"}, {"start": "01:21:13", "end": "01:21:19", "text": "say that looks like a myar balloon but I didn't know how to spell myar so said nothing."}, {"start": "01:21:19", "end": "01:21:25", "text": "I didn't say anything simply because I'm like oh if it if he thought it was legit he would have 100% sent to us. Yeah. No it was just a balloon."}, {"start": "01:21:25", "end": "01:21:31", "text": "Yeah. I had literally got me these two 33 or balloons. Oh yeah. Three and a three."}, {"start": "01:21:31", "end": "01:21:37", "text": "And I know it's bad to let balloons off the environment. Terrible. How else are you supposed to get rid of"}, {"start": "01:21:37", "end": "01:21:42", "text": "them? That's what I'm saying. Pop them. Pop them. You can't just do that. It's gas. Yeah. Well, you want to put the helium"}, {"start": "01:21:42", "end": "01:21:48", "text": "back in the world. I literally released those two butterfly ones this weekend with Zola in the"}, {"start": "01:21:48", "end": "01:21:53", "text": "backyard. I was just like, \"Let's just get rid of it.\" So, we just cut it and we just watched them. She made a wish."}, {"start": "01:21:53", "end": "01:21:59", "text": "Josh let go of all of Aah's birthday balloons the whole time. My heart is beating like this."}, {"start": "01:21:59", "end": "01:22:04", "text": "Why? It freaks me out. I don't know why. It's bad for animals."}, {"start": "01:22:04", "end": "01:22:10", "text": "I know, but it's so fun. For animals of all the littering that the government does and all this stuff."}, {"start": "01:22:10", "end": "01:22:16", "text": "You worried about a balloon? Dude, I'm a nut about littering. I tell our girls if they litter, I have to go to jail."}, {"start": "01:22:16", "end": "01:22:21", "text": "If they litter, the police will come get me. Yeah. And they won't see me again. Look at him. Say, \"Give a hoot. Don't balloot.\""}, {"start": "01:22:21", "end": "01:22:27", "text": "Um, but Jane was traumatized. Like she was going like weeping over this bullet."}, {"start": "01:22:27", "end": "01:22:32", "text": "She's like, \"Get it back. Get it back.\" I said, \"But it's going to"}, {"start": "01:22:32", "end": "01:22:38", "text": "China.\" I said, \"So when they when it gets to China, I'll call them and I'll ask, can we get her bullying back?\""}, {"start": "01:22:38", "end": "01:22:43", "text": "She's like, \"Promise.\" I'm like, \"Yeah.\" You say that. That's how I got Zelda to do it because she didn't want to give"}, {"start": "01:22:43", "end": "01:22:50", "text": "him rid of him. I'm like, \"Let's make a wish.\" And so she she had me back up though. She's like, \"I don't want you to hear my wish.\""}, {"start": "01:22:50", "end": "01:22:55", "text": "Okay, dude. I got something terrible. Her first wish was that Jesus comes back"}, {"start": "01:22:55", "end": "01:23:00", "text": "soon. Oh my gosh. That was like I hope so, too. Well, Atlas. Yeah. Hopefully."}, {"start": "01:23:00", "end": "01:23:06", "text": "So good. Dude, sorry to do this, Andy. I know you got a cruise coming up."}, {"start": "01:23:06", "end": "01:23:12", "text": "Yeah. Where where are you guys again on cruises? You love them, hate them. Josh hasn't done EMDR about his cruise"}, {"start": "01:23:12", "end": "01:23:18", "text": "yet, so we don't know if they're good or bad or if you're ever going to do one again. He's literally still extremely traumatized. Hey, you and you and the"}, {"start": "01:23:18", "end": "01:23:23", "text": "girls can come along with us. Yeah, I'm not anti. I think it'll be fun. It was hard when we had the littles cuz"}, {"start": "01:23:23", "end": "01:23:29", "text": "they couldn't do anything, but now they're bigger. So, Paige loves Disney. I'm sure a Disney cruise is something that she"}, {"start": "01:23:29", "end": "01:23:34", "text": "would enjoy, but finding out this fact made me like never want to do a cruise."}, {"start": "01:23:34", "end": "01:23:40", "text": "So, you know how they're in floors? And if you've ever been like in a building when an evacuation happens, it can be"}, {"start": "01:23:40", "end": "01:23:48", "text": "like chaos. Like people trample each other. So, I didn't know this is true, but apparently the lower floors, if the"}, {"start": "01:23:48", "end": "01:23:53", "text": "evacuation order is bad enough, they have tech on these things where they"}, {"start": "01:23:53", "end": "01:24:01", "text": "systemically lock the doors so the lower decks cannot overrun in crowds so"}, {"start": "01:24:01", "end": "01:24:06", "text": "evacuation can happen safely floor by floor."}, {"start": "01:24:06", "end": "01:24:14", "text": "Oh my gosh. Is that not the sketchiest thing you've ever heard in your life? What if the tech wears out or like glitches out"}, {"start": "01:24:14", "end": "01:24:19", "text": "while it's crashing? Yeah. Like and it doesn't You can't turn them back on. Thanks, Andrew. We're never going on a cruise again."}, {"start": "01:24:19", "end": "01:24:25", "text": "Hey, just get a balcony balcony and then bring some inflatables. I will say we were we Ryan Treyham made"}, {"start": "01:24:25", "end": "01:24:31", "text": "another video recently and you have to watch it because he's your ship, I think. The biggest Yeah, the Are you going on the Icon or the Utopia?"}, {"start": "01:24:31", "end": "01:24:37", "text": "Utopia. Yeah. Okay. Well, they're similar, I think. But um he did the rooms and I looked up"}, {"start": "01:24:37", "end": "01:24:42", "text": "and the if you're going with a family of four, it's not insanely different to do one of the nicer rooms."}, {"start": "01:24:42", "end": "01:24:48", "text": "Yeah. And I'm like, we could do that. I'm not really a cruiser either. You guys are going to have a blast."}, {"start": "01:24:48", "end": "01:24:53", "text": "Get a travel agent. That's what I'm saying. We booked through a travel agent. Didn't cost us anything. And it made it so easy. Awesome."}, {"start": "01:24:53", "end": "01:24:59", "text": "We just say, \"Hey, these are kind of like the areas, the dates we want to go.\" Yeah. And there was like a million options. And then incredibly affordable. Like I"}, {"start": "01:24:59", "end": "01:25:06", "text": "tell I tell the deals to people that go on cruises and they're like, \"Yeah, that's amazing.\" I'm like, \"Okay, good.\" I actually just had like a revelation"}, {"start": "01:25:06", "end": "01:25:11", "text": "and I I have to share this with you because I'm a control freak. You guys are late to a lot of things."}, {"start": "01:25:11", "end": "01:25:17", "text": "Sure. Do not get late going back on a cruise ship. You will be locked out. You will not be No, I' I've told them. I'm like, \"We are"}, {"start": "01:25:17", "end": "01:25:23", "text": "not going to be on one of those cuz you like Yeah, you've seen videos of where they get left on the dot and you just"}, {"start": "01:25:23", "end": "01:25:28", "text": "have to fly back.\" But I'm like, \"How do you do that when your passport's not with you?\" I know. You're supposed you're supposed"}, {"start": "01:25:28", "end": "01:25:35", "text": "to bring your passport. Take your passport with you when you get off the boat. Good. But um but also you guys are a very vibes"}, {"start": "01:25:35", "end": "01:25:40", "text": "ccentric family. Yeah. So you're going to be like we're having a ball. Yeah. You're going to be distracted by"}, {"start": "01:25:40", "end": "01:25:45", "text": "No, I will I will be the one that's like checking. Yeah. But we're only going to"}, {"start": "01:25:45", "end": "01:25:50", "text": "get off on one. There's two ports. We're only going to get off one because everyone gets off. Most people get off"}, {"start": "01:25:50", "end": "01:25:56", "text": "and it's like that's when the water slides are most open. The pools are less busy. I'm like let's do that. Which one are you getting off on? I"}, {"start": "01:25:56", "end": "01:26:01", "text": "can't remember. I There's one that's their island, right? I think their island we're getting off because that's sick."}, {"start": "01:26:01", "end": "01:26:07", "text": "Yeah. The other ones it's like you have to like taxi a lot of places too and stuff. I'm like, \"Yeah, no, thank you.\" Taxi. Taxi."}, {"start": "01:26:07", "end": "01:26:13", "text": "Yeah. Coco K is the faux shisel. Dude, I can't wait. We're going to I'm going to eat like a monster, dude. Speaking of"}, {"start": "01:26:13", "end": "01:26:20", "text": "monsters. I got a monster story."}, {"start": "01:26:20", "end": "01:26:25", "text": "We got a crypted story. It's been a minute. Almost. Almost. Okay. Shape shifter story."}, {"start": "01:26:25", "end": "01:26:30", "text": "That counts. Shape shifter. Yeah. Is that different than a skinwalker? Basically the same thing."}, {"start": "01:26:30", "end": "01:26:35", "text": "Okay. Yeah. All right. We'll call a skinwalker story. Sure. Shape-shifting skinwalker story."}, {"start": "01:26:35", "end": "01:26:43", "text": "It's a lot of asses. It has to be And it's in Florida. Oh, yeah. Shape shifter in Florida. Um,"}, {"start": "01:26:43", "end": "01:26:49", "text": "shout out to this Instagram, Florida Folk History. It's awesome. Where I first saw it."}, {"start": "01:26:49", "end": "01:26:54", "text": "The man named Uncle Monday. Uncle Monday."}, {"start": "01:26:54", "end": "01:26:59", "text": "Uncle Monday. Great name. That's a great name. But he was apparently this legendary"}, {"start": "01:26:59", "end": "01:27:07", "text": "conjure man uh way back in the day when there was like slaves and stuff in the United States. And he was captured in"}, {"start": "01:27:07", "end": "01:27:13", "text": "Africa. Mhm. He was enslaved in South Carolina and he escaped to Florida and joined the Simol"}, {"start": "01:27:13", "end": "01:27:22", "text": "tribe in Florida. No way. This is a movie, bro. That sounds awesome. But he was a active practicer of this is"}, {"start": "01:27:22", "end": "01:27:27", "text": "a new thing that I learned. It's called Hudoo. Hudoo, not voodoo. Hudoo. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:27:27", "end": "01:27:34", "text": "And it's very ritualistic stuff. Um, basically it's a combination of the"}, {"start": "01:27:34", "end": "01:27:41", "text": "American South, like Mississippi, Louisiana, Georgia, or that's where it all was. But it's a combination of uh"}, {"start": "01:27:41", "end": "01:27:47", "text": "African herbal medicine, Bible verses, in European folk magic."}, {"start": "01:27:47", "end": "01:27:55", "text": "Weird. Wow. Not a great That's the unholy trinity. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Um, but this guy, he came from"}, {"start": "01:27:55", "end": "01:28:00", "text": "Africa and apparently he was this like witch doctor. Hudoo"}, {"start": "01:28:00", "end": "01:28:06", "text": "witch. Was that funny? It's rain. It's I just got a notification. It's starting to rain soon again. Chemtrails are coming, baby."}, {"start": "01:28:06", "end": "01:28:12", "text": "Rain. Um, but he apparently was able to"}, {"start": "01:28:12", "end": "01:28:20", "text": "communicate and like talk to crocodiles when he was in Africa. Wow. And so he he fled to Florida,"}, {"start": "01:28:20", "end": "01:28:27", "text": "joined the Simol tribe, and they taught him their local magic of communicating with alligators."}, {"start": "01:28:27", "end": "01:28:34", "text": "And legend has it that he was so good at harnessing these entities, these"}, {"start": "01:28:34", "end": "01:28:42", "text": "spirits, that he would literally transform into an alligator. Uhhuh. Um, and so they there was like"}, {"start": "01:28:42", "end": "01:28:47", "text": "the ceremony that they did and they would dance the drums and then while they're doing it like it said his leg"}, {"start": "01:28:47", "end": "01:28:55", "text": "shortened, his skin turned to scales and his voice thundered. Alligators rose from the swamp to greet their new king."}, {"start": "01:28:55", "end": "01:29:01", "text": "Oh my. So they call him Uncle Monday, king over the alligators. So these alligators would just come out"}, {"start": "01:29:01", "end": "01:29:07", "text": "and worship them. Yeah. What in the world? So apparently, I'll just read some of this. Uh, Uncle Monday could shift"}, {"start": "01:29:07", "end": "01:29:13", "text": "between man and gator at will. Uh, he taught his way to a woman named Judy"}, {"start": "01:29:13", "end": "01:29:19", "text": "Bronson, who claimed her power rivaled his. One day, she went fishing at Blue"}, {"start": "01:29:19", "end": "01:29:25", "text": "Sync, uh, his sacred domain. Despite the warnings, as soon as her"}, {"start": "01:29:25", "end": "01:29:31", "text": "line hit the water, a force pulled her in. She froze, trapped between the dark and"}, {"start": "01:29:31", "end": "01:29:36", "text": "deep. Then Uncle Monday walked across the water in uh flowing robes with an"}, {"start": "01:29:36", "end": "01:29:42", "text": "army of alligators behind him. He told her uh he told her he'd only release her"}, {"start": "01:29:42", "end": "01:29:48", "text": "if she admitted his powers were greater. Uh and then it says that she finally"}, {"start": "01:29:48", "end": "01:29:53", "text": "like said, \"Yes, your powers are greater.\" Yeah. And he said basically"}, {"start": "01:29:53", "end": "01:29:59", "text": "um he was so he hated the white man obviously at that time. Sure. And he said, \"I will never be"}, {"start": "01:29:59", "end": "01:30:04", "text": "captured or killed by a white man. So, I'm going to become a gator"}, {"start": "01:30:04", "end": "01:30:11", "text": "until all the the violence between the white men stops.\" So, legend has it"}, {"start": "01:30:11", "end": "01:30:17", "text": "he's still out there. Uncle Monday is still a gator somewhere in the swamps in Florida. Goodness, dude."}, {"start": "01:30:17", "end": "01:30:23", "text": "Yeah, that's a fun story. That's a terrifying story. Yeah. But it's a huge folklore even like"}, {"start": "01:30:23", "end": "01:30:30", "text": "within the Native American tribes. Like this African man could literally transform into an alligator and he"}, {"start": "01:30:30", "end": "01:30:37", "text": "controlled all the gators. Like he was the king of alligators. That's And you hear that and you're like, \"All"}, {"start": "01:30:37", "end": "01:30:42", "text": "right, this definitely sounds like some folklore stuff.\" Sure. But I was talking to Taylor about it"}, {"start": "01:30:42", "end": "01:30:48", "text": "cuz Taylor used to live in Zambia and one of his best buddies in Zambia, um,"}, {"start": "01:30:48", "end": "01:30:54", "text": "Mazinga is his name. Okay. And uh Taylor has some crazy stories"}, {"start": "01:30:54", "end": "01:31:00", "text": "about some witch doctors in Zambia. Yeah. But Mazinga was telling Taylor he knew"}, {"start": "01:31:00", "end": "01:31:05", "text": "of this witch doctor in his village who would literally transform into a lion"}, {"start": "01:31:05", "end": "01:31:14", "text": "and kill his enemies. And Taylor's like, \"Okay.\" Yeah. And then he's like is like, \"No, I watched him in front of me"}, {"start": "01:31:14", "end": "01:31:19", "text": "turn into a lion and go off and kill people,"}, {"start": "01:31:19", "end": "01:31:25", "text": "dude.\" So it is a real practice. Yeah. That happens in Africa or at least it's"}, {"start": "01:31:25", "end": "01:31:30", "text": "told it happens. Dude, I mean just imagine seeing that. I know. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:31:30", "end": "01:31:36", "text": "Like we truly think it is a fantasy, you know, like idea that like that even happens. Something in cinema that"}, {"start": "01:31:36", "end": "01:31:41", "text": "happens, you know, but like that's that's true. I mean we tal the skinwalker stories"}, {"start": "01:31:41", "end": "01:31:46", "text": "like every culture around the world it just all connects with this certain type"}, {"start": "01:31:46", "end": "01:31:52", "text": "of evil where they could literally harness. But a lot of the hoodoo stuff, yeah,"}, {"start": "01:31:52", "end": "01:31:58", "text": "it has a lot to do with root cutings. And if we know anything about talking about root cutings,"}, {"start": "01:31:58", "end": "01:32:04", "text": "sure. Pharmarmacaya. It's the the Watchers. The Watchers. Did Ta This story is interesting, too. Did Taylor specifically see this or did"}, {"start": "01:32:04", "end": "01:32:09", "text": "somebody that Taylor knew saw it where the the witch doctor was walking to the woods trying"}, {"start": "01:32:09", "end": "01:32:15", "text": "also or that was somebody else? Yeah. Yeah. And slithered into the woods. Yeah. But that wasn't in Zambia, I don't think. I think that was like in the"}, {"start": "01:32:15", "end": "01:32:21", "text": "Congo. Oh, okay. Yeah. Um, sorry. I'm add finish. Sorry."}, {"start": "01:32:21", "end": "01:32:26", "text": "Well, no, I was going to segue. So, you go ahead. Do you know where he was based? Uncle"}, {"start": "01:32:26", "end": "01:32:32", "text": "Monday. It was like Eatenville or something, weren't it? No. Where? Literally, I looked it up and I thought"}, {"start": "01:32:32", "end": "01:32:37", "text": "Chat GPT knew where I was. It literally says Uncle Monday's home or final"}, {"start": "01:32:37", "end": "01:32:43", "text": "transformation site was right near Lake Dora in Lake County. Old storytellers"}, {"start": "01:32:43", "end": "01:32:49", "text": "say he fled into the swamps between Lake Dora, Lake Eustace, and Lake Boair."}, {"start": "01:32:49", "end": "01:32:54", "text": "What? It's here. That's the That's right there. 100 yards away."}, {"start": "01:32:54", "end": "01:33:00", "text": "You know, they have that tribute to the gator downtown. Old Joe. Old Joe? Yeah. I wonder if it's like a similar thing."}, {"start": "01:33:00", "end": "01:33:05", "text": "There's also a gator that's in there. That is humongous. The gators in Lake Dora are protected. You can't get them."}, {"start": "01:33:05", "end": "01:33:10", "text": "They're Why are they protected? They're not protected everywhere. Uncle Monday. Uncle Monday is protecting"}, {"start": "01:33:10", "end": "01:33:16", "text": "the man. There's an alligator that is an absolute monster at Lake Dora and he's missing an"}, {"start": "01:33:16", "end": "01:33:23", "text": "arm. He's a three-legged gator. And you read further that Uncle Monday was missing an arm from the slave days."}, {"start": "01:33:23", "end": "01:33:30", "text": "Interesting. Could you imagine? Crazy. That would be interesting. Wow. Andrew, what a cool What a cool, dude. Good one. Oh, man."}, {"start": "01:33:30", "end": "01:33:35", "text": "I didn't see that when I was reading that. That's legit. I pro I promise. I promise. Oh my gosh."}, {"start": "01:33:35", "end": "01:33:41", "text": "What a fun story. Lake Dora is considered Uncle Monday's swamp, his"}, {"start": "01:33:41", "end": "01:33:46", "text": "sacred ground in the place where he is still said to rise when thunder rolls across the water."}, {"start": "01:33:46", "end": "01:33:52", "text": "Dude, guys, for those of you watching, we are literally on Lake Dora right now. If you were to walk out this door, you could see"}, {"start": "01:33:52", "end": "01:33:58", "text": "less than a block away. That's awesome. That's why I always say everybody's I"}, {"start": "01:33:58", "end": "01:34:04", "text": "would never in my life swim in Lake Dora. Not only is it riddled with alligators, it's also heavily polluted."}, {"start": "01:34:04", "end": "01:34:11", "text": "Um the sandbar is cool though. Sandar sick. I actually have swam at the same sar is pretty cool. Um"}, {"start": "01:34:11", "end": "01:34:17", "text": "what I was going to say is you were saying it's associated with this evil this transformation the skinwalker stuff which is true. It is associated with"}, {"start": "01:34:17", "end": "01:34:23", "text": "evil but also God transformed Nebuchadnezzar into a beast and we just did that study"}, {"start": "01:34:23", "end": "01:34:28", "text": "possibly. I think he did get into a beast. You think it's a metaphor"}, {"start": "01:34:28", "end": "01:34:34", "text": "or or be like driven crazy or something? Yeah. I mean I can't definitively know."}, {"start": "01:34:34", "end": "01:34:39", "text": "I think both narratives fit. But it's interesting. I I'll give it that. Is there any other similarities in the"}, {"start": "01:34:39", "end": "01:34:46", "text": "Bible like that? Like skin like that talk about Yeah. Like a transformation. John the Baptist."}, {"start": "01:34:46", "end": "01:34:52", "text": "We figured that one out. The camel hair. Yep. Just turned into a camel. That's how he survived."}, {"start": "01:34:52", "end": "01:34:58", "text": "That'd be dope. In the Nebuchadnezzar story, it talks about how he transformed into an animal for seven seasons."}, {"start": "01:34:58", "end": "01:35:05", "text": "Yeah. Or seven periods of time. And then like he couldn't distinguish like the dew on his back and stuff like that until one"}, {"start": "01:35:05", "end": "01:35:11", "text": "day his eyes were meant to see and then he was transformed back. So he Yeah, I need to go back and like"}, {"start": "01:35:11", "end": "01:35:18", "text": "really really read that because that is interesting. Yeah. And I didn't talk about skin walkers once in my BSF study."}, {"start": "01:35:18", "end": "01:35:24", "text": "You got to let ruin it for all these other ladies. Question. Do you believe it's true?"}, {"start": "01:35:24", "end": "01:35:29", "text": "I believe that really happened. Yeah. Then you would be enlightening, not ruining."}, {"start": "01:35:29", "end": "01:35:35", "text": "Yeah, I know. That's my thing. It's like people say Jonah is, you know, that you can't take that literally, but it's like"}, {"start": "01:35:35", "end": "01:35:41", "text": "who are we to say? Because the Bible has no problem saying like, \"Hey, this is a poem. This is a fable. This is a"}, {"start": "01:35:41", "end": "01:35:46", "text": "parable.\" Well, and then like what like if we could take it if it's taken"}, {"start": "01:35:46", "end": "01:35:51", "text": "literally, then it's like this is a crazy thing that happened in the Bible. What is the passage when Jesus was talking about? They were like, \"What is"}, {"start": "01:35:51", "end": "01:35:57", "text": "your next miracle, Lord?\" And he said, \"The next miracle sign of Jonah.\" Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:35:57", "end": "01:36:03", "text": "Yeah. But people say that Jonah was alive. He was definitely dead in the died. Yeah. And was revived."}, {"start": "01:36:03", "end": "01:36:10", "text": "He prayed in the belly of the whale. No, it said he was in shal. Prayed in shield."}, {"start": "01:36:10", "end": "01:36:16", "text": "Is that what it says? Yeah. Let's pull out our Bibles, everybody. I mean, let's do it. Let's pull it out"}, {"start": "01:36:16", "end": "01:36:22", "text": "cuz I don't remember the Which would make more sense for the prophecy of Christ, right? Because"}, {"start": "01:36:22", "end": "01:36:27", "text": "Christ died. Well, I think he just said he's like just like Jonah was in the belly of a fish for three days, I will"}, {"start": "01:36:27", "end": "01:36:33", "text": "be in the belly of the earth. Yeah, but look it up. He was in it says shield."}, {"start": "01:36:35", "end": "01:36:41", "text": "[Music] They also they also taught that the"}, {"start": "01:36:41", "end": "01:36:47", "text": "spirit didn't depart the body for three days. So in their traditions, he would have still been with his body in the"}, {"start": "01:36:47", "end": "01:36:54", "text": "belly for three days. That's the significance of Jesus being in the in the tomb for"}, {"start": "01:36:54", "end": "01:36:59", "text": "that period of time. Oh yeah, we can do a little reading. I"}, {"start": "01:36:59", "end": "01:37:04", "text": "can cut this section out. Also, what you need to cut out is Andy"}, {"start": "01:37:04", "end": "01:37:12", "text": "dropping my street address. Did he? Oh, it said Lake Jo. Lake"}, {"start": "01:37:12", "end": "01:37:20", "text": "33 belly of the fish for three days and three nights. Then Jonah prayed to the Lord his God from the belly of the fish saying uh he answered me out of the"}, {"start": "01:37:20", "end": "01:37:28", "text": "belly of shiel I cried and heard my voice for you cast me into the deep. And so he says his prayer but it doesn't mean he's actually in"}, {"start": "01:37:28", "end": "01:37:33", "text": "he says it from the belly of shal Abraham's bosom. So is he like I would"}, {"start": "01:37:33", "end": "01:37:40", "text": "like like that's a question then that I don't know that we'll know is if I'm like I'm in hell right now. Am I in hell"}, {"start": "01:37:40", "end": "01:37:47", "text": "or Yeah. Like I mean if you're in the belly of fish, he doesn't know he's going to be puked out of this fish."}, {"start": "01:37:47", "end": "01:37:52", "text": "So in his mind if he's surviving then he's praying and saying yeah, you know I'm"}, {"start": "01:37:52", "end": "01:37:59", "text": "either way. Yeah, true. I mean like Yeah, that's the thing. It doesn't really matter but it is very interesting. I like that."}, {"start": "01:37:59", "end": "01:38:07", "text": "You know what? I like that. I'm into that. Um yeah, so that's that's that"}, {"start": "01:38:07", "end": "01:38:12", "text": "the world is crazy. What were you what were you gonna say about evil watchers?"}, {"start": "01:38:12", "end": "01:38:19", "text": "Were you gonna segue into something? Um Oh, we're just talking about skin walkers. And I just thought it was crazy how they"}, {"start": "01:38:19", "end": "01:38:26", "text": "really specify of like how they do all the like root cutings and speaking with the spirits"}, {"start": "01:38:26", "end": "01:38:34", "text": "through but they don't they don't worship anything. That's the thing. That's the difference between voodoo and hudoo. Voodoo actually worships like a"}, {"start": "01:38:34", "end": "01:38:40", "text": "god or entities or gods whatever. But hudoo, they just do the actual practice"}, {"start": "01:38:40", "end": "01:38:46", "text": "of magic without worshiping or like it's not like a religion in a way though. Are they worshiping"}, {"start": "01:38:46", "end": "01:38:52", "text": "like the earth? Not necessarily. I mean I mean I don't know. Yeah, it's interesting. They just it's just like it's almost"}, {"start": "01:38:52", "end": "01:38:58", "text": "like passed down ceremonial magic that they do."}, {"start": "01:38:58", "end": "01:39:04", "text": "Wow. That they can achieve stuff like have good luck or to them it's to them it's like a"}, {"start": "01:39:04", "end": "01:39:09", "text": "science. Yeah. Crazy stuff. Yeah, it makes you wonder, man. And"}, {"start": "01:39:09", "end": "01:39:14", "text": "there's like such like all this witch stuff on TikTok like where people like literally just embrace it and like talk"}, {"start": "01:39:14", "end": "01:39:20", "text": "about it and like condone it. Bad stuff. And like, dude, what? So, like what do you stuff you guys getting into witch things? And it's like, what are we"}, {"start": "01:39:20", "end": "01:39:25", "text": "doing? Yeah. Don't they know that they used to burn them? Yeah. You better be careful, ladies."}, {"start": "01:39:25", "end": "01:39:31", "text": "You don't know. You We might get back to that. Yeah. What happened to wizards as well? If we're going to have witches, why can't we have dudes that are just"}, {"start": "01:39:31", "end": "01:39:39", "text": "committed to being wizards? Like, where's the guys that are just like giving up, quitting their jobs, living in the woods, growing out their beards,"}, {"start": "01:39:39", "end": "01:39:45", "text": "walking around with pointy hats and cloaks? Yeah. Like, yeah, I won't be I won't be for it, but at least I want to see some"}, {"start": "01:39:45", "end": "01:39:50", "text": "representation from the male community. Yeah. I saw a hilarious video the other day that it was talking about they it's this"}, {"start": "01:39:50", "end": "01:39:57", "text": "couple that does like um historical uh skits. So, like historical fiction skits that"}, {"start": "01:39:57", "end": "01:40:02", "text": "they make up. And one of them is they went to like another hearing at um for"}, {"start": "01:40:02", "end": "01:40:08", "text": "like one of the witch trials. It was like 1600s Massachusetts. And she's like, \"Should I just speak up so that"}, {"start": "01:40:08", "end": "01:40:16", "text": "everyone can stop inviting me to these things? Should I just say that I'm a witch? I'm not, but I'm tired of going to these freaking events. Just burn me"}, {"start": "01:40:16", "end": "01:40:22", "text": "next.\" That was so funny. Who's the guy that plays Gabe off of Zack Woods? Zack Woods. Have you seen him with Rick"}, {"start": "01:40:22", "end": "01:40:27", "text": "Glassman talk about the Blair Witch Trials? Yeah. So freaking fun. one of my favorite"}, {"start": "01:40:27", "end": "01:40:33", "text": "clips of all time. You know what's my favorite clip of all time? What? patreon.com/ninjas or butterflies where we're going to be"}, {"start": "01:40:33", "end": "01:40:39", "text": "talking about additional stuff and taking my blood out of my body. That's right. And I I got a cool story"}, {"start": "01:40:39", "end": "01:40:44", "text": "about this one monk. Very cool. And I'm going to talk about my theory a little bit."}, {"start": "01:40:44", "end": "01:40:50", "text": "Yeah. Fun. Okay. I'm looking forward to that. It's it's it's like, you know, when you you say something like while you're like"}, {"start": "01:40:50", "end": "01:40:56", "text": "asleep and you wake up and like, \"Oh, that's such a good idea.\" And the longer you stay awake, you're like, \"That's a terrible idea. It was the dumbest thing."}, {"start": "01:40:56", "end": "01:41:02", "text": "It might be that. So, I've done that where I come up with a video idea and I write it down in my notes and then I wake up the next day."}, {"start": "01:41:02", "end": "01:41:08", "text": "I'm like, what? What? Yeah. Uh, well, a cardboard box. What? Okay."}, {"start": "01:41:08", "end": "01:41:14", "text": "Yeah. Make sure you go to patreon.com, guys. So, there's behind the scenes footage that you guys don't ever see on or on the podcast. That's going to be on"}, {"start": "01:41:14", "end": "01:41:19", "text": "Patreon as well. You get extra episodes, you get behind the scenes content, discount codes, the best place in the"}, {"start": "01:41:19", "end": "01:41:26", "text": "world. Or you can become a YouTube member today for also that extra content. Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. And guys, make"}, {"start": "01:41:26", "end": "01:41:32", "text": "sure to give us some five stars because we've been we've been slacking lately."}, {"start": "01:41:32", "end": "01:41:38", "text": "Spotify took down our episode this past weekend and so we're trying to get that back up. So, it just helps the more"}, {"start": "01:41:38", "end": "01:41:43", "text": "reviews we have. I know you guys I I listen every time I get on an app and it says, \"Do you love this app?\" I hit no"}, {"start": "01:41:43", "end": "01:41:49", "text": "because I don't want to go to the app store and do it. But please, for this podcast, we know you. We love you. You"}, {"start": "01:41:49", "end": "01:41:55", "text": "know us. It helps us tremendously. It does. So, leave a crazy wacky review."}, {"start": "01:41:55", "end": "01:42:00", "text": "Do what you can. Give us five stars. And go on YouTube and comment boogers or pee pee."}, {"start": "01:42:00", "end": "01:42:06", "text": "Boogers or pee. Yep. All right, guys. Love you. Love you. Byebye."}, {"start": "01:42:06", "end": "01:42:12", "text": "Dolphins. What you're about to see are aliens. That may disturb you. If any of you know what these"}, {"start": "01:42:12", "end": "01:42:18", "text": "multi-deade UAP dolphins are also [Music]"}, {"start": "01:42:18", "end": "01:42:27", "text": "fish, there's a massive police response. Oh, the dolphin thing. Oh my god. Dolphin silent attack."}, {"start": "01:42:30", "end": "01:42:37", "text": "Here's a a hint for our next guest. One of our next [Music]"}, {"start": "01:42:37", "end": "01:42:43", "text": "Johnny Cash. Johnny Cash from Raising from the Dead."}, {"start": "01:42:44", "end": "01:42:50", "text": "Go again. [Music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Uh, speaking of cannibalism."}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "Have you ever heard of Pine Gap?"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "Pine Gap?"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "No, I haven't."}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "Pine Gap?"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "What is Pine Gap?"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "Better known as the Australian Area 51."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "Oo, everyone's got their own, I guess,"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "Pine Gap."}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "That is a fun name."}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "Um, yeah, there's a lot of weird stuff"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "around Pine Gap."}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "Where's it located?"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "Australia."}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "That's a whole continent. um"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "and country."}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "Uh it is near Alice Springs, which is"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "the Northern Territory of Australia."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "But what's weird, it's a joint effort"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "between the United States in Australia,"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "but basically who runs Pine Gap is the"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "CIA."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "What?"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "The American CIA."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "American CIA. Australia has they only"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "have a little say in what happens there"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "just because it's in their country."}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "Yeah. Um but yeah, it's run by the CIA,"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "the NSA, and the NRO, which is the"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "National Reconnaissance Office. And um"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "basically they have said that it's a"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "signal intelligence facility. Okay."}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "To where because it's like kind of"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "remote in the bush in Australia,"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "so they have clear skies to better view"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "satellites, all that stuff."}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "But people have reported for a long time"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "that around Pawn Gate"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "there's a lot of UFO activity."}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "Interesting. That's probably why they"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "picked it, right?"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "That's the speculation. There's some"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "weird source. It's very sec secretive."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "Like it's the same as Area 51 where you"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "can't approach it. You're technically"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "not allowed to take pictures of it."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "What a good place to put something like"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "Yeah. Let me There's a picture of it."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "like no one's going to Australia to in"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "the bush just to look for aliens."}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "Uh, here we go. Just looks like a bunch"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "of Epcot balls."}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "Oh, weird."}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "Is that what Epcot is?"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "It could be. Um,"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "that's where the that's where Epcot"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "balls are born."}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "Those are baby Epcot."}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "Um, but yeah, a lot a lot of people"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "claim that there's a that's just the"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "surface, but there's underground"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "facilities and tunnels that it make like"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "basically a huge city under Pine Gap."}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "Yeah, you would have to."}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "Yeah. Um, but some of the stories around"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "Pine Gap, uh, very close to Al Springs,"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "uh, there a lot of people report seeing"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "strange lights in the sky moving"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "silently and rapidly. Um, and then there"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "was this one account in the 1970s where"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "these Aboriginal trackers,"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "um, they saw something crash and they"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "went to observe it. They're in the bush,"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "these Aboriginal trackers, and they"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "found this smooth metallic sphere"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "partially embedded in sand emitting uh,"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "emitting a low hum or vibration."}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "This is in 1977."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "Yeah. Um, the object was reportedly cool"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "to the touch despite being in the desert"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "heat, about the size of a basketball,"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "perfectly symmetrical, seamless, and"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "impossible to open. Uh, one of the men"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "picked it up, but said it felt strangely"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "heavy for its size"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "and gave the sensation like it was"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "pulling at his insides,"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "like someone was like"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "like a pull like a magnet almost."}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "Ew. Um the story also includes the orb"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "started levitating slightly when placed"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "on the ground. The men later approached"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "the military personnel who confiscated"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "it uh and warned them never to speak of"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "it. Uh one of the men became ill and dis"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "disoriented afterward. And so basically"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "if you ask them today like did what's"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "the story with Aboriginal men finding"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "the sphere next to Pine Gap?"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "They're like that never happened."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "Yeah. And so when was Pine Gap um built?"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "Sorry, because I'm that's 1977."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "So I wonder if there was like activity"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "around that area where"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "that's what made"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "That's actually a great question. I have"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "no idea."}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "Thanks,"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "Andrew. Can you look up when Pine Gap"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "was founded?"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "Yep."}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "They do have photos of the underground,"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "too."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "Oh, do they?"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "Maybe it's not soative. Well, it's not"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "not what's in there, but just like"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "basically like cavernous like what you"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "there's like nothing weird that they're"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "showing."}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "Okay. Um but yeah, there's people that"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "report all kinds of weird craft around"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "Pine Gap, like large triangular craft."}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "Uh glowing lights everywhere. Um but"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "there's this one story."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "I've got it."}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "When was it?"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "Uh 1966. It was established as a result"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "of a treaty between Australia and the US"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "to establish a joint satellite"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "surveillance base during the Cold War"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "Cold War."}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "It was presented to the public as a"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "space research facility. Its true"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "initial purpose was to monitor Soviet"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "missile tests and intercept signals."}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "um intelligence or SIG INT became a"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "crucial ground control station for the"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "US intelligence satellites in 1970."}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "Crazy."}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "That's crazy. I think that's wild to me"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "though. like how just how that works"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "like especially if the CIA is involved"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "like if that's American agency to have"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "land and ownership and like be able to"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "run a completely like huge corporation"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "and business or whatever they want to"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "call it like just a facility all the way"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "across the world."}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "And the stuff that must happen there we"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "think Area 51's a problem. Guess what?"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "Like that's no Americans are doing"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "anything about that. They're not"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "sneaking in there."}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "That is weird though. Was in the 60s"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "though. I guess maybe maybe not. But"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "like there weren't a lot of satellites"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "in the 60s."}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "I'll I'll look into that."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "You had like Sputnik, which was was it"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "late 50s or early 60s?"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "57 history changed on October 4th when"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "the Soviet Union successfully launched"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "Sputnik."}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "Sputnik."}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "Um, what a fun name."}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "Sputnik."}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "Dude, it was so small."}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "Sputnik."}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "Oh, yeah. It's like this big. And"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "the size of a beach ball and weighed um"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "183.9 lbs."}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "It looks like a little kid made it, too."}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "Interesting. A spherical ball that's a"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "lot heavier than it looks."}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "If that was some type of alien"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "satellite."}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "I mean, you literally That's literally"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "what you described. Like a basketball"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "shaped."}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "Interesting."}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "Satellite from the aliens."}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "We're trying to duplicate it."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "Interesting."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "Possibly. Thank you."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "Andy,"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "thanks guys."}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "So good."}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "Thank you."}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "Um, but this one doesn't directly"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "connect to Pine Gap,"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "but uh there is a crazy"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "imagine the highlight like when you were"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "telling a story when Luca has to cut"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "this up every time you're like and this"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "is what happened at Pine Gap."}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "Like there's always just say it a couple"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "times normal as if we need to use it."}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "Pine gap."}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "Whoa."}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "Pine gap."}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "Pine gap."}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "Pine gap."}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "Pine gap."}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "Pine gap."}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "Um, this occurred in 1988"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "and this was in like southern Australia,"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "but they're saying there is a there"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "could be a connection to Pine Gap with"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "like the how the military question"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "whatever. Um, the Nolles family UFO"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "encounter in Australia."}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "Beyonce."}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "Oh,"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "no. Um, her name is Fay."}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "Beyonce."}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "Beyonce."}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "Beyonce."}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "Jay-Z is an alien name, by the way."}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "F as in hybrid."}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "Jay-Z e twoletter name."}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "Shut up."}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "1988."}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "Got it out. Wait, tell the story. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "the Nolles family, mother Fay, her sons"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "Patrick, Shawn, and Wayne, and their two"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "dogs were driving from Perth to"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "Melbourne. M on uh when they had a"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "harrowing encounter with a un"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "unidentified flying object that"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "allegedly Oh, let me skip that part. Um"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "so around 4:00 a.m. they were driving"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "and they saw a bright light ahead and"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "they were approaching this bright light"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "and all of a sudden this light hovered"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "above their vehicle and then when it"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "hovered above their vehicle freaked them"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "out. So, they just started driving as"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "fast as they could and this thing just"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "stayed above their car and they said"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "that it was vibrating their car and they"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "said there was a like a frequency that"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "was like penetrating in the car. They"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "said it was like they could feel it in"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "their heads."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "Oh my goodness."}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "And then all of a sudden this uh light"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "above them"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "picked up the car like a magnet"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "while it's driving. while it's driving"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "and uh it lifted off the ground."}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "Steering became uncontrollable. They"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "claimed that they were telepathically"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "communicated with a feeling of presence"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "trying to get inside of their minds."}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "Oh boy."}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "The air inside the car became thick with"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "a strange black dust. Then their voices"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "became disord uh uh distorted sounding"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "like slowed down or mechanical."}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "Um it said she said it felt like we were"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "going to be taken. Uh the whole car was"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "vibrating and making a horrible sound"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "and then this thing just threw the car"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "off the side of the road and they were"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "able to drive afterwards."}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "But their car like their roof was dented"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "in. There was scratches all up on the"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "top and along the sides. They"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "immediately drove to the police"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "department. Sure. and reported it and"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "basically they were dismissed."}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "You have had drink."}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "Ah yeah shiny lights talking to you."}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "Lock them up."}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "it was a whole family."}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "A whole family."}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "So you have all this whole family's"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "telling you this eyewitness story."}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "Yeah. And they even said afterwards"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "remnants of that black dust was all in"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "the car."}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "Weird. Did they never got tested? I'm"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "assuming."}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "I don't know. But uh also multiple truck"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "drivers in the area also reported seeing"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "strange lights in the sky that night."}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "Weird."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "Yeah. But it remains one of the most"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "credible and dramatic UFO close"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "encounter cases in the southern"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "hemisphere."}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "Crazy."}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "Yeah. Just because of the actual"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "physical evidence."}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "Physical evidence matching their story."}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "Yeah. All the people in the car like I"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "mean you're having kids I'm assuming in"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "there too and they're all saying this"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "exact same thing."}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "That's wild, man. Man, imagine the"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "insurance claim like this."}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "I'm sorry. Did you say"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "flight and floating light?"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "A light picked you up."}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "I don't believe it."}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "You don't believe it?"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "There's no north and south hemispheres,"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "dude."}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "All flat, baby."}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "Yes."}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "Ninjas are butterflies."}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "Did I say ninja? I meant"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "butterfly."}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "The butterfly is no doubt one of God's"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "most beautiful."}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "has empty your mind."}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "You were martial arts."}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Philip K. Dick was an author. He was"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "born in 1928. He wrote I mean just a ton"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "of books about the future. But what he"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "did was in his books he predicted so"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "many technologies that we use today"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "including AI. He said he was receiving"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "vast amounts of knowledge and all sorts"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "of things philosophy theology and"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "science from something he called Val"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "which stood for vast active living"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "intelligence system. But in his books he"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "talked about facial recognition. He"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "predicted the internet in 1969. 3D"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "printing, he fully predicted in his"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "books. He wrote about AI and how it"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "would act and how it could potentially"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "take over. And this is what's crazy."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "He's a crazy person, right? Well, not as"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "crazy when he's being followed by the"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "FBI and CIA."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "This is confirmed."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "Confirmed. They were following him. They"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "were tracking him. They bugged his"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "house. The FBI was caught opening his"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "mail one time."}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "Oh my gosh."}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "And then he was warned that they were"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "going to raid his house and he's like,"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "\"No, there's no way.\" Sure enough, the"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "CIA came and raided his home, opened his"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "safe, and took all of his documents."}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "What in the world, bro?"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "And then he died in 1982, very shortly"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "after discovering that the CIA and FBI"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "were after him."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "Yeah. Super super strong."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:00", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "There's like a conspiracy with Bass Pro"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "and how they've become this huge massive"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "conglomerate. And I genuinely like going"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "to a Bass Pro, but I got super ticked"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "off when I realized how much assistance"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "the US government has provided to Bass"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "Pro and Cabelas starting in the early"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "2000s. They have been given"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "approximately $2 billion. What"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "they say it creates jobs, but the fact"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "is it doesn't add up. You get people who"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "are visiting from out of town, but all"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "the mom and pops have gone away. And so"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "when you look at how it's actually"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "playing out, go to a Bass Pro, how many"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "people are actually working the"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "register? There's like two. How many"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "work the register at a mom and pop? Mom"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "and pop."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "You know what I mean? It's like this is"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "how they did it. When Bass Pro Shop"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "started, it was a liquor store and then"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "the dude started selling tackle out of"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "his dad's liquor store and just one"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "thing led to another and he started this"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "business. Awesome. Cool. Well, he began"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "wanting this immersive like get to"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "experience the outdoors. Well, it turns"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "out they have gotten grants because they"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "call themselves museums,"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "tax army and stuff."}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "They Yeah, they're preservations of"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "history. And they've literally played"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "this game"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "to the tune of $2 billion."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "That's a lot of money, dude."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "That's clever. Everybody,"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "you know where my brain went with that"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "is that the interest in getting rid of"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "all these small town bait and tackle and"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "because they would obviously sell"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "ammunition and stuff there, too. If you"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "get rid of a place in your small town to"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "where people can rely on to go in case"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "something happens, in case they need"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "stuff to survive and it's all combined"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "under now a US government funded bait"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "and tackle shop."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "If they were doing that though, they"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "would want to control all like mass"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "production food too, which they're not"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "doing. So if the government like wanted"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "to like one day just like say, you know,"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "we're in control of everything."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "You have to listen to us and they just"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "shut everything off. It would just be"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "Bass Pros and stuff like probably cuz"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "Yeah. They're definitely not touching"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "any of our food orarmacies, you know,"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "like our medications."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "You're right. That was dumb of me."}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "Gas. I mean, we have we we have our own"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "gas."}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "We make our own gas here."}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "Wrong."}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "Wrong. The government screw it"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Speaking of Anunnaki, I literally have a"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "story that's has to do with like the"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "Watchers and stuff."}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "Ooh, okay."}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "Very, very interesting topic I came"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "across."}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "Let's go."}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "So, I've been listening to this podcast"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "recently called Lord of Spirits. It's"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "these two Orthodox priests and they dive"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "into all the obscurity stuff of the"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "Bible. So, like angels, demons, giants."}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "And I'm listening to this one episode"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "right now. I think it's the Land of the"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "Giants or something. It's really cool"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "podcast. It's very informative. It's not"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "all flashy and stuff, but like I mean"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "the knowledge these dudes have is"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "insane. And it's like dude everything"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "they talked about lines up like"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "identical with what Dr. Michael Heiser"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "talks about."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "Except I thought find it fascinating"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "because the Orthodox Eastern Eastern"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "Orthodox"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "um theology and stuff they say that they"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "trace it back to like the early church,"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "you know. So, I find that even more"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "interesting that they're talking about"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "this stuff that lines up so much with"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "Dr. Michael Heheiser's"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "um findings and whatnot with giants."}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "But they mention in this thing that in"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "regarding the watchers and the Nephilim"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "and like how Nephilim were made, there's"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "this verse in Deuteron Deuteronomy 3:1"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "talking about King Og. Uh, so this I'll"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "just read it. For Og, the king of Bashan"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "was left of was left of the remnant of"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "the Refaim, which were a giant clan."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "Uh, it said, \"Behold, his bed was a bed"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "of iron. It is not of Rabba or or of the"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "Ammonites. Nine cubits was its length"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "and four cubits its breadth according to"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "the common cubit.\" So, it's describing"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "his giant bed,"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "right? which to us that's like that's"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "just kind of weird that they threw that"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "in there and they said well there's some"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "context to that in ancient Mesopotamia"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "and ancient uh Canaan"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "they had this ritual to where they"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "believe the watchers or the angels would"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "come and they would perform these"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "ceremonies on these certain type of beds"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "and that's how these nephilim were"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "produced like this it's It's a very but"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "it was like historical context. He's"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "like if you read that without knowing"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "the historical context of like what"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "actually was happening"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "that's exactly what they're describing"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "was this ritualistic thing describing"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "the bed."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "And he just briefly mentioned he's like"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "yeah the emperor of Japan still does it."}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "And I'm like really"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "I said hold on. I'm like yeah. He's like"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "it's crazy. I'm like I got to look into"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "Yeah. So in Japan"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "there is this thing it is called forgive"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "me if my pronunciation of these Japanese"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "words"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "doing the voice."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "revving up."}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "Um okay so it's this ritual called the"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "da joai droai"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "droai"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "and um basically that is uh where is it"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "called? It's like um it's this ritual"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "the digai. So anytime an emperor comes"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "into power, what they do is they have"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "these two they erect these two huts and"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "in these huts there's a bed and there's"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "rice saki and this tradition has gone on"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "since 600 BC"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "and gracious the emperor now he was this"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "actually happened in 2019 this new"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "emperor came into power but they trace"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "their lineage age back to the first"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "emperor of Japan. It's the longest"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "reigning monarch in history."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "Oh wow."}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "And but they believe that they are a"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "direct descendant of their sun goddess"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "which her name is uh"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "Rebecca"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "Sunny. No, I'm just kidding. It's not"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "Sunny. Uh her name is Oh, where is it?"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "give me a second. Okay. Amati Raso."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "Amatiaso."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "And that is their sun goddess. And they"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "believe that she came to Japan and that"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "she conceived a son and this son gave"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "birth to another son and then another"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "son and that so that son that third son"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "became the first emperor of Japan."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "Wow. And so this ceremony, the um"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "dai Josai is a ceremony that no one"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "knows what happens in there. Only the"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "emperor and the priests that perform it."}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "But what happens is he goes into this"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "tent and he's supposed to in interact"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "with the sun goddess to receive the"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "blessing and the power to rule over"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "Japan."}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "Yeah. But they're saying the rumor is"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "there's some weird"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "creepy stuff that happens because"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "there's a bed in there."}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "And that it mimics almost exactly what"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "they used to do in ancient Mesopotamia"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "in Canaan."}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "Sure."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "And I just found that incredibly"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "interesting."}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "Yeah. And they're still doing it."}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "Yeah. And I tried to look into like what"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "it was Japan's religion, you know, like"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "going back like way back to the BC era."}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "And it's like they don't have a"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "religion."}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "They don't like practice a religion, but"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "they do have deities that they worship."}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "And it's like different deities,"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "different things, but like there's like"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "a river deity, a mountain deity. And uh"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "but they even talk about these angelic"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "like beings coming down and being like"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "these great men. And I just thought I'm"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "like this is so fascinating."}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "Yeah. that in today 2019 the Japan of"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "emperor entered this tent."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "To talk to their sun goddess."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "Mhm."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "Because that is he's a descendant of the"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "sun goddess."}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "Yeah. There's got to be some"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "they eat together supposedly and they"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "drink saki and then there's whatever"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "else happens."}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "Well, did you see the connection with"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "the cave and the sun goddess?"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "No. So like going along with what you're"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "saying apparently in their their"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "mythology is that um they call it the"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "Shinto religion and she's a central"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "figure of Japanese mythology."}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "Um she is the ruler of the celestial uh"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "plane provider of light and warmth. But"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "at some point in the history, her"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "brother defiled the celestial plane and"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "it caused her to need to go into hiding"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "and she went into a cave,"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "which is another theme we see with"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "these sort of unions. But apparently she"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "was lured out. They put like mirrors and"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "gems in a tree. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "Pulled her out. But along with that,"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "there was a provocative dance done. And"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "so basically the idea of enticing this"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "woman deity and it's just it's just"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "weird that there is always a uh I'm just"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "trying to be careful for the kids"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "listening but there's there's always"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "something like that tied with and then"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "the cave angle is is weird how we see a"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "lot of those angelic unions being driven"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "into caves."}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "Yeah. And what's interesting is the"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "emperor has always been held as a god"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "figure. Like they are a divine being."}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "And it wasn't until World War II ended."}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "That they basically had to sign the US"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "forc like the emperor has no divinity."}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "It's like yeah, the emperor has no"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "divinity. But they still they're like,"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "\"Yeah, he does.\""}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "They did that in World War II."}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "Yeah. After World War II, they had when"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "their part of their treaty thing had to"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "do with the emperor and he basically had"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "to come out and say like, \"Yeah, I'm not"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "a divine being. I'm not God."}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "Really?"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "That whole heard that"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "sounds like the one from the Santa Claus"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "where the the cops are like Scott Calvin"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "and he's like"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "No, that's but they that's like very"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "common though with ancient"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "civilizations, right? The pharaohs"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "thought they were Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "descendants of gods."}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "They were like Well, they thought they"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "were gods."}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "Because of that. Is that also my"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "question? Because the the flag for"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "Japan, that's the sun right in the"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "middle."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "Oh, interesting. I didn't even think"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "about that. I didn't think about that"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "either. That's a Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "that's a thing."}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "Google."}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "Um, in the meantime, you're you"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "listening to some fancy cool podcast"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "that gives you B B B B B B B B B B B B B"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "B B B B B B B Bible insights and um I"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "just thought since I'm the Bible's"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "funny, I'd give you a Bible insight. I"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "just found the other day I haven't even"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "talked about anybody with this."}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "Cool. Really?"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "So, this is this is hot off the press"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "and I would say it's equal to this kind"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "of like academic really thoughtful"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "stuff."}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "So, it's uh comes from the book of"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "James. It's James chapter 1. You can uh"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "if you go to verse 21, it says uh"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "therefore get rid of all moral filth and"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "the evil that is so prevalent and humbly"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "accept the word planted in you which can"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "save you. But if you check the a"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "different translation and you go to the"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "King James version,"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "uh which I'll scroll down, it says uh"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "lay apart all filthiness and the"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "superfluity of naughtiness."}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "No way."}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "Which I just think is a funny word."}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "Super fluidity of naughtiness. Yeah, I"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "was looking at that verse the other day"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "and I I stumbled on it and then was"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "like, I wonder I I somehow looked at the"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "other translations and I thought I found"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "the phrase superfluidity of naughtiness."}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "Fluidity."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "Super fluidity of naughtiness. You are."}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "That's a great band name. Fluidity"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "naughtiness. Naughtiness."}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "Super fluidity of naughtiness."}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "Fluidity."}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "Fluidity. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "Or fluidity."}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "I will say the KJV is F L UI TY."}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "Fluid."}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "Interesting."}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "Super fluidity of naughtiness."}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "Take that back. Andrew."}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "Take it back."}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "So when we started"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "there, it was flutes. Oh, playing flutes"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "is sinful."}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "Super. Not as sinful as naughty."}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "Yeah, that's right."}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "Super fluidity of naughtiness."}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "Somebody translating in the King James"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "version was just like"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "really having a good time."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "I'm going to crush with this one."}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "Finally, I can use my words."}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "You could use the word filth or I have"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "an idea."}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "Fluidity."}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "Super fluidity of naughtiness. fluidity"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "of naughtiness."}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "So this is the Japanese flag. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "The one with the rays is the navy flag."}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "Um but this red circle is for that sun"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "goddess, the establisher of the imperial"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "family."}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "Interesting."}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "What's white stand for symbolically?"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "Probably purity because that's part of"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "their whole thing is"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "purity. That's like there there's no"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "sin. It's just remaining pure and clean"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "and not super fluidity of naughtiness."}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "I sense a spirit of superfluity of"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "naughtiness in this room."}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "Thor sassy king."}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "Yeah. Purity, honesty, and integrity."}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "Yes. Nice. Ninjas are butterflies."}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "Did I say ninja? I meant"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "butterfly."}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "The butterfly is no doubt one of God's"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "most"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "I said empty your mind."}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "You were martial arts ninja attack."}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:01", "text": "uh not in Maine at least that I've seen."}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "No one really cares that they're dying,"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "that they're being abused. I mean, we"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "had this as I'm reporting on indentured"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "slavery at Chinese cannabis houses."}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "Indentured sla and you're using those"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "words, too."}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "Uh and then, you know, who knows what"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "role the cash that they generate from"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "the marijuana is playing in other malign"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "activities. I mean, with that kind of"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "cash, you could facilitate a lot of"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "wrongdoing. Um, but you know, I think"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "that the we've seen in Maine really the"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "um I guess the end result of the"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "migration patterns over the Mexican"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "border. You're just talking about the"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "guy who, you know, the manuals they put"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "online or they hand out showing them how"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "to how to get into Maine. And we've seen"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "uh a couple of examples. I mean, the"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "District uh of Massachusetts indictment"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "said specifically they were indicted for"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "human trafficking. They were people who"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "were smuggled from mainland China into"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "Mexico across the Mexican border. They"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "bought them plane tickets into Logan"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "International Airport and then drove"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "them to marijuana houses in"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "Massachusetts and in Maine. And so there"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "there it is like that's the supply"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "chain. Like do we think that this is the"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "only incident of that happening? No."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "This is this is the model. This is what"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "they're doing. And in that instance,"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "they did steal their passports and put"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "them in a safe and you know they were"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "indentured servants. Um, but we've also"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "seen there was a case um 555 Belfast"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "Road, Freedom Maine is the house."}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "Beautiful house with a little trout pond"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "out back."}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "Freedom Maine."}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "Freedom Maine. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "What a name."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "Yeah. Uh, well, there were some slaves"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "there in Freedom M."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "That's what I'm saying."}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "Yeah. Uh, so this was a a house where"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "there was a marijuana growing operation"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "that was raided in I think early 2024."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "And um few months later some people had"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "come back there and were living there"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "and one morning there's an emergency"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "call that goes out because of carbon"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "monoxide poisoning or propane poisoning"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "and there are five Chinese nationals who"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "are hospitalized with asphyxiated uh or"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "asphixxiating. Two of them died and the"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "two survivors would later tell"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "investigators that they were illegal"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "aliens. They came in illegally from"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "Mexico. They spoke fluent Mandarin and"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "fluent Spanish, but no English. And"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "after that, they wouldn't really talk."}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "Both of them had New York driver's"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "licenses. And this was under Biden, so"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "they were released"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "back while released. And no one ever"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "came to claim the bodies of the two um"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "Chinese men who died."}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "This is the one you were telling me off"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "air, too. And it's interesting because"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "you said they were in their 30s."}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "So that this would have been the era,"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "they would have been from the era of"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "like the one child policy in China. So"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "effectively this"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "could probably be the only kid end of"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "their line."}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "Yeah. And they die in a flop house in"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "Freedom, Maine."}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "And and no one comes to claim their"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "bodies and no one in the media cared."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "I'm the only one who's written about it."}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "I went and got the"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "Why is that?"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "The the police records about it. I have"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "no idea. I've asked myself this this"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "question a lot. Um, part of me thinks"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "it's because um, you know, we're we're"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "like a a a startup digital media outlet"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "and we're, you know, right of center."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "We're the conservative outlet in the"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "state of Maine. So, if we start"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "reporting on something like is it too"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "edgy or is it like the conservative news"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "ghetto, you know, there's a phenomenon"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "sometimes where if Fox starts talking"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "about something or if you know,"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "Breitbart breaks a story, well, the"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "CNN's and the Washington Posts, they're"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "not going to talk about it. It becomes"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "the conservative news gallery. Uh, I"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "think that that might be a little bit of"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "what started out, but now they're in"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "this position where they're so far"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "behind on the story. Um, we've seen some"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "some attempts that the mainstream press"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "in I guess Maine, the the establishment"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "media in Maine has tried to make"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "covering the world of Chinese organized"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "crime. And it's just kind of funny for"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "me to read because I'm like, \"Oh, okay."}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "So, you don't know anything.\""}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "Yeah. Um, so I don't I don't blame them"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "now at this point for not picking up on"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "some of the stuff, but you think about"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "like if a you know, I mean, if a uh you"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "know, a refugee from the Congo died in"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "some accident in Portland, there would"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "be like rallies and candlelight vigils"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "and everybody would be coming out to"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "say, \"What a travesty this is. We need"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "to pay attention to this.\" But for some"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "reason that kind of um I guess like"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "left-wing nonprofit world of sympathy"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "generating and you know um making"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "political hay out of sympathy it just"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "doesn't exist for the the Chinese uh not"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "in Maine at least that I've seen. No one"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "really cares that they're dying that"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "they're being abused. I mean we had this"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "as I'm reporting on indentured slavery"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "at Chinese cannabis houses."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "Indentured sla and you're using those"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "words too. I mean, if I've if I've"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "smuggled you into the country and I've"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "taken your passport and I've got it"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "locked up in a safe,"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "that's the definition."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "You can't get away. Like,"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "that's indentured servitude to me."}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "Absolutely what it is."}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "But as we're reporting on this, the"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "legislature is debating an agricultural"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "minimum wage"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "for farm workers. And this is the same"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "legislature that is adamantly ignoring"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "the Chinese organized crime problem."}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "doesn't want to support any legislation"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "that might um strengthen the law"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "enforcement's ability to deal with the"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "problem. Doesn't want to do any kind of"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "changes to the cannabis program so that"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "uh this is harder for them to do, harder"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "for them to profit from. Totally"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "ignoring actual slavery happening and"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "they want to like get the agricultural"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "minimum wage up a little bit. It's"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "weird. There's a a weird cognitive"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "dissonance happening with people huge"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "uh you know pretending like this isn't a"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "problem."}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "It's also it the dark side of the"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "immigration debate is that if you just"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "looked at it the at the highest level on"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "the one hand you have the people who are"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "hardliners we got to stop this problem"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "or whatever just leave them as that"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "broadly for a second and then on the"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "other side you have people going no we"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "don't have a problem we're a nation of"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "immigrants all this stuff which we are"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "but the reality is the argument like the"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "the people who may be hardcore are like"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "let's fix the border who aren't like"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "racist and stuff like that which there"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "are plenty of people who are not racist"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "that are thinking that kind of thing."}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "They get called racist by this group"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "over here because like oh you don't want"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "immigrants in there. But the people who"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "are claiming in that case to, you know,"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "love all the immigrants coming in when"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "there are then these massively dark"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "dystopian black market realities that"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "happen that literally kill some of those"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "immigrants or other things that are on"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "an equal playing field with that. Well,"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "that we just don't want to see. And"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "there's like that's the cognitive"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "dissonance you're talking about highest"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "level."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "They're racist. They're making"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "race-based judgments. like they're"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "they're they're taking two examples of"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "the same behavior and saying we're not"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "gonna we're gonna ignore this behavior"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "because of these people's race,"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "nationality, ethnicity, and we're gonna"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "um focus on this behavior. Um, a good a"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "great example of it, uh, there's a guy"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "named Lucas Soy in Maine who, um, at the"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "same time, Chinese organized crimes"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "taking off in Maine. Uh, he was trying"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "to build a legit marijuana business and"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "he had gone to the office of cannabis"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "policy and was trying to get registered"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "and it was a confusing time because the"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "the legislation had just rolled out and"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "people who were trying who knew how to"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "grow marijuana were trying to figure out"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "how to do it legally, how to run big"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "businesses. He had some money and some"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "capital and was trying to create a space"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "where multiple people could come in with"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "marijuana licenses and grow in the same"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "space. And uh an ex employee who was,"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "you know, angry at him for being fired."}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "Uh yeah, there he is. He uh um the ex"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "employee goes to OCP and says, \"Oh, this"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "Lucas guy is doing all kinds of bad"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "stuff.\" And instantly they're on the"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "phone with DEA and they get a federal"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "investigation and they're after this"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "guy. They tap his phones. They listen to"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "his conversations with his dad and his"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "dad grows Christmas trees,"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "but they they"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "code word."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "No. Well, I mean, they didn't even they"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "didn't even say it was a code word for"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "marijuana. They clipped it into in the"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "indictment so that they were to say that"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "they were talking about growing pot"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "plants. I mean, they they railroaded"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "this guy so hard. And at the exact same"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "time that this was happening, while"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "they're tapping his phone lines, you"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "have a company called Green Future LLC"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "that was a host of Chinese guys"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "primarily from the New York area, uh,"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "but also from the Massachusetts area,"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "who'd come up with a ton of money and"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "started buying up property in the Lewis"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "and Auburn area and eventually they"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "would go beyond that. And they were"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "doing whatever they wanted to. They"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "would cut they they got some of them got"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "licenses but for the most part they just"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "did whatever they wanted to. And the"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "state police were called to their"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "locations multiple times for hostage"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "situations"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "missing persons uh firearms offenses."}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "And the state police would show up and"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "they can't speak to any of the people"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "there because they all speak only"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "Mandarin. And they're like, \"Well, well,"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "whatever. This is just a civil dispute.\""}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "They wipe their hands and leave. And we"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "actually got a police incident report"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "responding to one of the houses, one of"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "the pro, it's a like an airport hanger,"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "um, run by Green Future LLC. And the"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "police after leaving say, \"We we suspect"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "it's controlled by Chinese gangs from"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "New York just as a throwaway line.\" And"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "they're never investigated again. No"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "one's arrested. No one digs like deeper"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "into that. Um, but so you have a case"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "where we got one set of laws, the Office"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "of Cannabis Policy, our adult use"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "marijuana program, our medical program."}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "Green Futures LLC comes in from New York"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "with guys who don't speak English, and"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "they just do whatever they want, break"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "every rule, try to make as much money as"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "possible, generate a little bit of law"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "enforcement attention. No one cares."}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "We're not going to investigate these"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "guys. No one calls the DEA. No one calls"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "the FBI. No one calls immigration. Pay"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "no attention to these people. But Lucas"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "Soy uh you know a an ex employee says"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "that he was breaking the rules. So let's"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "wiretap his phones. And he's still in uh"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "has a still has a pending case that he's"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "still fighting."}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "Insane."}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "Yeah. The US attorney still has uh"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "charges against"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "even after all this."}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "Yeah. I I've told him you should go to"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "the go to the main human rights"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "commission and uh uh sue for"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "discriminatory treatment. It's like how"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "can they ignore this massive like 200 I"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "mean the initial memo said 270"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "properties. We're probably closer to 500"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "or a thousand in Maine in Maine."}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "This is not that big a place."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "Well, it's big geographic wise but"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "population"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "just just 1.4 million. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "And they got maybe 500 properties with"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "probably hundreds of people."}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "Yeah. But that's happening and it is"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "just one it's one unified conspiracy."}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "It's not um a phenomenon where people"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "have just figured out they can make"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "money coming up to Maine and getting"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "into the marijuana business. They have"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "unified supply chains and logistics and"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "you know an operation that stretches all"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "the way back to China. I mean they're"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "bringing people here from southeast"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "China and you know smuggling them at"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "least they were smuggling them in"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "through Mexico and there's also plenty"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "of evidence that they're um using the"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "open Canadian border as well."}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "Oh really? Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "Where do you know specifically where?"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "Yes. Uh there's there was an arrest um I"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "think this was uh Fort Fairfield. Um"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "there was a a case where there were um"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "uh illegal aliens from China who were"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "arrested after just walking across the"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "border and jumping in a car with a"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "getaway driver."}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "Um we actually we have a story up uh"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "there somewhere. It's like um Chinese"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "nationals arrested near Maine Canada"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "border."}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "Yeah. There it is. Fairfield."}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "Do we Where is that in my Canada?"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "Forgive me."}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "Yeah. So if you're looking at like"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "Maine, it's like right here. So you're"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "looking at northeast."}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "Okay. So right near Got it."}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "North the northeast Maine Canada border"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "is wide open. Yeah. Like I know of areas"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "where you can just walk across and we've"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "seen a lot of cases and heard about a"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "lot of cases of um"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "illegal aliens just walking across the"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "border and they get in a vehicle with a"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "getaway driver and we've heard about the"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "few where they get caught because they"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "have a broken tail light and some"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "20-year-old cop from Fort Fairfield,"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "Maine pulls them over and then just sees"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "like what are these Jordanians doing in"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "Fort Fairfield, Maine? It's 1:00 a.m."}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "What's that stack of cash back there?"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "That's weird. Uh, and then those guys"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "get caught or got caught, but uh, how"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "many aren't?"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "you know,"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "thank you guys for checking out this"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "clip. If you haven't already subscribed,"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "please subscribe and hit the like button"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "on this video. It is a huge, huge help."}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "And if you'd like to check out this"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "clip's full podcast episode, that link"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "is in the description below or right"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "here. And finally, you can follow me on"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "Instagram and X by using the links in my"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "description below."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "something like this comes in, you"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "legalize it, and then it's just you"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "there's no setup for it. Like you have"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "it completely out of control. There's"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "loopholes everyone can get around and"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "because law enforcement is now not"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "All right, so we got a little breaking"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "news as we come on air. What's cooking?"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "Yeah. Well, I guess uh Grundy County"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "Sheriff's Office, uh Heath Gunter, the"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "sheriff"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "Grundy County. Where's that?"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "Uh my Tennessee geography is not great."}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "It's Altoont, Tennessee is the address"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "on this uh uh press release that my"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "podcaster just sent me. But uh I mean,"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "sorry, my producer just sent me, but"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "says uh the uh sheriff apparently heard"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "me talking with Sean Ryan on his podcast"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "about how easy it was for me to buy THC"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "Delta 9 uh in Tennessee and went around"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "and did THC checks on all the smoke"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "shops and head shops. During this"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "investigation, five of the 13 stores"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "were found to be out of compliance with"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "state regulations."}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "Oh wow."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "Random products were purchased and"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "submitted for testing. The testing"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "revealed that some products labeled as"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "containing.3% THC or less did not"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "accurately reflect their content,"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "which of course is the hemp loophole."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "That's what it you have to test at less"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "than.3% THC delta 9 in order to be"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "considered hemp. And they're very"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "obviously importing marijuana from other"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "states. When I was in Nashville, like on"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "my way to Sean's studio, I stopped at"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "the first head shop I found on Google"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "Maps and walked in and they've just got"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "jars of pot up on the wall and they're"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "not even trying to hide it. It's like"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "Michigan Gold and Georgia Green. They're"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "saying this weed has come from out of"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "state and if it's THC Delta 9 with"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "content higher than, you know, minus.3%,"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "it's illegal. It's cannabis."}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "And everyone's just pretending anyways."}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "No one actually thinks that it's hemp."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "No one's selling it, growing it, or"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "smoking it thinks it's hemp. Everyone"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "knows it's cannabis, but they all just"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "pretend cuz either making money"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "easier to pretend, you know?"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "Yeah, it's much easier to pretend."}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "We're going to get into all the"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "nitty-gritty today. You and I have been"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "talking for a couple hours since you got"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "here off camera. Like some of the"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "you're uncovering it is insane. But the"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "the main theme is exactly what you were"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "telling me out there. It's perfect. Like"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "something like this comes in, you"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "legalize it, and then it's just you"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "there's no setup for it. like you have"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "it completely out of control. There's"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "loopholes everyone can get around and"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "because law enforcement is now not you"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "know putting at the at the top of their"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "priority because oh the people have"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "spoken it's legal that means that pretty"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "much anything that has to do under that"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "category be it hump be it marijuana"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "anything bad that then happens as an"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "offshoot of that is not even looked at."}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "Mhm. I mean, it's the unintended"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "consequences of bad policym."}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "You know, you can uh try to predict what"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "you think is going to happen when you"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "legalize a drug and try to create a"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "regulatory framework for this massive"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "industry. U but you're going to be"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "wrong. There's going to be things you"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "don't know about. And the other thing"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "I've discovered is that there's going to"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "be things that people on the inside of"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "that industry know about money-making"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "opportunities that aren't discussed with"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "regulators."}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "And so when the door is open, they come"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "walting through and they're ready to"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "sell, you know, um, hemp oil converted"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "into THC Delta 9, which just started. I"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "think earlier this week, Target launched"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "a pilot program in, uh, Minneapolis."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "they're going to be selling hemp drinks,"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "but it's THC delta 9 and it's the same"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "exact molecule that comes from, you"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "know, the the pot we smoked in high"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "school and college like it's in age"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "restricted"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "uh 18, I think, whatever the whatever"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "their local uh the their state rules"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "are. Maybe it's 21. Um, but it's 5% THC."}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "It's the same exact thing that you're"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "going to get at a cannabis dispensary."}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "Um, but because it's derived from hemp,"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "it's treated regular uh differently uh"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "from a regulatory perspective than if it"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "were to come from cannabis sativa or"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "cannabis indica."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "So, I mean, it's it's a it's a"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "fascinating um case study in how the"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "market responds to changes in the law."}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "And you also have this weird situation"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "where there's a there's a group of"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "people who benefit from the status quo,"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "the way things are right now with some"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "states legal, some states illegal, and"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "then this weird hemp loophole. There's"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "some groups uh including the Chinese"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "organized crime who are benefiting from"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "this patchwork of illegality because you"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "can make an awful lot of money on"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "flexible principles. If you're willing"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "to take grow marijuana illegally and"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "bring it from Maine to New York or New"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "Jersey, you're gonna make some money. Uh"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "you know, maybe four, five times the"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "price. Um but uh there's a lot more than"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "just the uh Chinese cartels doing that"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "for sure."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "Um but I think that the the Chinese are"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "just um a little bit better at it. And"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "they also have free labor."}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "Uh free labor. Free labor really helps"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "with your margins. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "Can you explain the free label? Labor."}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "Slavery. indentured slaves. That's nice."}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "Yeah. Generally, their people aren't um"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "you know, compensated at an hourly wage"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "for their work. They're uh um"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "chained to the walls."}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "Well, that I mean that's"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "an an interesting thing is the human"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "trafficking is kind of a spectrum. Like"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "you have on the one hand the cattle"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "slavery, you're chained to the wall."}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "Then on the other hand, you're free"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "whatever. You can leave whenever you"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "want. And a lot of the worker"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "exploitation we see is kind of in the"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "middle. You know, there's a case on a"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "Navajo reservation in New Mexico where"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "some Chinese nationals were promised"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "jobs cutting flowers, arranging flowers,"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "and they uh came over the border, were"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "driven to the reservation, and had their"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "phones and passports taken, whatever"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "they had on them, taken away from them,"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "and they were effectively held prisoner"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "on the Navajo reservation. Somehow they"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "managed to get away. Um, and this is"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "actually the subject of a lawsuit right"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "now. Um, there's a human rights attorney"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "representing the Chinese nationals who"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "were effectively enslaved at this"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "cannabis farm on Native American"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "reservation land."}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "Yeah, there it is. Got it. Chinese"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "dreams on Native American land until"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "cannabis boom and bust. BBC."}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "Okay, please continue, Steve."}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "Yeah. Uh, but I guess what we see in"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "Maine is maybe more toward the middle of"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "the spectrum where, you know, you're um"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "you're not chained to the wall. You're"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "not, you know, on an Indian reservation."}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "Maybe you've got a phone or access to"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "internet, but you're at this house in"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "rural Maine in a town of 500 people."}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "You're an hour and a half away from the"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "nearest G uh shopping location. Uh you"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "don't have a car. Uh you don't speak the"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "language. Uh and your food deliveries"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "are coming from the same people who are"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "picking up the marijuana that you're"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "supposed to be growing. And your"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "passport's locked in a safe with your"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "snake head down in Massachusetts. and"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "he's not going to give it back to you"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "until you've worked off your debt"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "because he's the one who arranged for"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "you to be smuggled over the Mexican"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "border and flown to Boston and driven up"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "to a marijuana house in Maine. And who"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "knows whether you ever actually work off"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "that debt, but um that's the situation"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "that we find with a lot of the people"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "who have been arrested at these sites. a"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "lot of people that I've encountered and"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "tried to interview with these sites um"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "where I initially thought that they were"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "all somehow benefiting from the"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "conspiracy or were you know profiting"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "from what they were doing uh for the"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "most part now I understand that they're"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "really victims of Chinese organized"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "crime and that they might have wanted to"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "be in America or they might have"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "initially made some kind of made some"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "free choices to the extent that they can"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "to bring them to this situation they"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "they're victims of human trafficking"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "they've smuggled here under false"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "pretenses. They've been lied to. They've"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "been manipulated and they've been"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "brought to Maine to grow cannabis for a"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "criminal network that is, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "guys that were arrested in Massachusetts"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "are driving around in Porsches with"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "hidden compartments that have a quarter"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "of a million dollars in it."}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "They've got Rolex bracelets and Cardier"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "bracelets and"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "there's even a slave labor."}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. And they and they like"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "they're very aware of what they're"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "doing. Oh yeah. And how um uh they're"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "exploiting America's culture and"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "America's um sentimentality and our I"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "guess almost like our liberal culture"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "and like not wanting to be racist and"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "wanting to approve of everybody. They"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "have a a way of using that to camouflage"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "and not get caught and protect"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "themselves. Um, but I was just thinking"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "of the funny example from Massachusetts"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "in the I don't know if we can look this"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "up, but in the um the indictment that"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "came down when they busted these guys,"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "there was one who was actually wearing a"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "p a shirt that had a picture of someone"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "ironing money. It was his moneyaundering"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "t-shirt."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "Come on."}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "This is like the like the lead money on"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "the grave."}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "The lead the lead money launderer of the"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "Chinese organized crime outfit arrested"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "in Massachusetts. It was uh Leah Foley,"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "the US attorney for the district of"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "Massachusetts, handed down this"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "indictment in July. Um we wrote I think"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "I have the picture at the Robertson"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "report if you go there. But"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "did your reporting facilitate this that"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "kind of thing?"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "Uh the in the indictment, one of the"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "first items listed in there is that they"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "these guys were sending my report around"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "on WeChat. Um, so I think that I mean"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "that who knows what the investigators"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "were reading when they started out"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "looking into these guys, but the um law"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "enforcement, the mass GOP have have"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "credited my reporting with it and it was"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "listed in the indictment. Um, I think we"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "were the first ones really to start"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "digging deeply into it as a coordinated"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "regional um, transnational issue rather"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "than just like, oh, hey, these guys got"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "busted growing marijuana and they all"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "happen to be Chinese and don't speak"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "English. Well, guess that's an isolated"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "random incident. Don't don't read too"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "much into that."}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "Don't worry about it."}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "But there's not a lot of investigative"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "reporting happening these days."}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "You know, it's really sad that things"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "like this can be pressured to stay below"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "the surface when we exist in a world"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "where information is so ubiquitous."}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "Everyone's got one of those right there."}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "They can all can talk about this. But"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "like you were saying, people are like"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "afraid to ask a question cuz they're"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "like, \"Oh, what if I'm racist or"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "something?\" because it happens to be a"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "bunch of Chinese people living there."}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "But like this is also, you know, we're"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "talking about Maine where you're from"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "and where where you're covering this and"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "obviously it's a big deal. This is level"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "different levels of this are happening"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "in basically all 50 states at this"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "point, right? Because China I mean we've"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "had other guys in here reporting on"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "this. China effectively has a manual"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "system where they send Chinese nationals"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "on this whole route to get through the"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "southern border and then go into"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "America. you never see them again and"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "they end up either in indentured"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "servitude or doing the indentured"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "servituding upon other people, you know"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "what I mean? And they get in these"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "rackets."}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "The marijuana is the best case example."}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "You know, there's more. Yeah. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "there's more nefarious things that"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "military age males could be doing rather"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "than guarding marijuana houses."}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "Thank you guys for checking out this"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "clip. If you haven't already subscribed,"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "please subscribe and hit the like button"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "on this video. It is a huge, huge help."}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "And if you'd like to check out this"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "clip's full podcast episode, that link"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "is in the description below or right"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "here. And finally, you can follow me on"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "Instagram and X by using the links in my"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "description below."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:01", "text": "and to try to be down the middle and get"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "both sides. If you want to just go on"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "one side, if you want to just believe"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "one side, it's the easiest thing ever."}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "Click."}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "You just get the same people. You know"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "what they're going to say. You have a"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "built-in audience cuz people want to"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "hear what they believe already. What"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "we're doing is so hard. Um and uh you"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "know, and it it's it's cool though."}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "It's cool because it's also not"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "Yeah, we got to get some of that off"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "your plate. As someone who edited all my"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "[ __ ] for years and years and years,"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "it takes a lot of time. Yeah, I still do"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "edits, but like I have help now with"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "stuff."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "I think there's something about though"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "like just because I've worked for, you"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "know, News Nation and networks and, you"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "know, there's so many people involved."}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "There's just something like about"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "knowing that you did everything that's"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "like just feels so good."}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "It's a nice feeling."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "Yeah. And the I mean, I'm sure I will"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "have to give it up because I'll just"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "probably die if I don't. It's like I'll"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "just like collapse. But like for right"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "now, like knowing that, you know, it's"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "exactly the way that I want it, it's"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "pretty cool."}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "That is great. Yeah. How do you balance"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "that though? Because I mean, you're"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "reporting on stuff full-time as well."}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "Obviously, it overlaps with the content"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "you then make, but like what's what's"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "also the rules around that? Cuz you"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "report for News Nation, but then you can"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "you you can make content on your own,"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "too. Like,"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "yeah. And you know, I'm busy with News"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "Nation, but like you were saying"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "earlier, there's a lot of waiting around"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "at stuff. You know, there's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "times where I'll just be sitting in the"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "car for two hours waiting on a press"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "conference or just watching a house or,"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "you know, at the scene of So, I've got"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "time in the I do a lot of them in the"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "car. That's the thing. It's like it's"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "not as cool as your studio and fancy and"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "stuff. It's it's literally it's mostly"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "me in the car sitting on the steps or"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "cuz I got to, you know, I I sort of work"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "it in in between my NewsNation gig. So,"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "it's a little more like rough around the"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "edges,"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "but it's also like you did an amazing"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "interview with one of the Cobberg victim"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "sisters."}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "Olivia Gonzalez, right?"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "So, do you have to do is some of it like"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "you do something for News Nation first"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "and then you kind of"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "build on that for your job?"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. For the most part. Yeah. I"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "mean I don't want to you know I most of"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "the stuff any news I would break on"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "NewsNation that kind of thing you know"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "but I then I'll do it on my channel"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "right after talk about because"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "NewsNation it's like"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "you know there's limited time that I"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "have there you know I'm given like a"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "three minute spot or a 4m minute spot so"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "I can really dig into things you know"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "afterwards on my channel which is cool"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "but then you you do some fillins too"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "right where you where you host shows."}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. I filled in for Chris Cuomo"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "last night. So, like if Chris goes on"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "vacation or Ashley Banfield or Elizabeth"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "Vargas, then I go and I I fill in for"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "them."}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "That's a whole different ball game,"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "though, too. It is. When you're doing"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "like an hourong show."}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "You got the script in front of you and"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "then you're going off script to like"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "describe things happening one story to"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "another. It's"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "It's kind of like a different part of"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "the brain, right?"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "It is. And I'm not like a you know, I'm"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "a I'm like a little road warrior, you"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "know? I'm always out on the road. I'm"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "always in my car. I'm always a little"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "grungy. So like it's kind of weird for"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "me like you know I put the suit on it"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "just feel I feel a little bit of"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "imposttor syndrome like oh like you know"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "like I'm it's"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "the news daddy Brian you can't be"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "feeling imposter syndrome."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But then I but then I"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "just kind of own it. It's cool. It's fun"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "to do it. It's just so different like"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "with all the studio light you know. I'm"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "used to being out in the field you know."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "Yeah. That place is I I've been over"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "there with with Nishan who was just in"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "here with us for a while. But, you know,"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "the the whole like"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "news bullpen and then you got the studio"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "right there and there's lights"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "everywhere. It's a way different like"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "it's way different than this in every"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "way. It's it's definitely like a"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "a little bit of a, you know, like"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "smaller stadium feel, if you will, but"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "it's the people that work there, the"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "fans."}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. It's It's weird"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "when you're there, but I got used to it,"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "you know, and I I I love News Nation."}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "They believe in the mission, the whole"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "trying to go down the middle and kind of"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "the things we've been talking about, not"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "tell people what to think."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "I think"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "kind of old school, you know,"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "of everyone, you know, and I'm not just"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "saying this cuz you're here. I've talked"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "with Nishan about this. Of all the"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "networks, it seem to be just off the"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "rails these days in whatever direction,"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "News Nation is the closest thing to"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "being like just trying to report"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "on things. And I see people from"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "different ends of the spectrum coming on"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "there all the time. It's It's really I"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "hope it stays that way."}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "It's harder, too. I mean, it's harder to"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "do that. People don't realize like it is"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "so much harder to try to be fair"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "and to try to be down the middle and get"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "both sides. If you want to just go on"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "one side, if you want to just believe"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "one side, it's the easiest thing ever."}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "Click."}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "You just get the same people. You know"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "what they're going to say. You have a"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "built-in audience cuz people want to"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "hear what they believe already. What"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "we're doing is so hard. Um and uh you"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "know, and it it's it's cool though. It's"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "cool because it's also not the"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "psychology of clicks because like if"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "you're without naming other networks, if"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "you're another network that leans one"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "way or the other, not only are you"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "playing to you know exactly what's going"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "on and you're playing to your base,"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "you're also playing, you know, like"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "hater porn, if you will, on the other"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "side, which gets you clicks and traffic."}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "It's just people getting mad at each"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "other."}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "If we had picked a side, you know, we"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "would be growing so much faster. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "100%."}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "you know,"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "I knew, you know, I was trying to figure"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "this out. I didn't know [ __ ] and I still"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "don't know [ __ ] but there's a couple"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "things you figure out along the way. And"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "I probably after starting in 2020 and"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "going all in on this, I knew by the"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "beginning of 2022, if you really wanted"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "to blow up in a space that covered"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "anything news or like culture,"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "just pick a side and go all in. And it's"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "like the second I saw that I was like,"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "\"Oh, never.\" I'd have to like lie, you"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "know, because it would go against what I"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "believe in, too. I'm like, I'm not"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "[ __ ] doing that."}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "But you see what people do and and you"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "know, I'm not calling people out, but"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "I'll watch it happen and I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "yeah, I can't imagine doing that. Like"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "even with my own channel, even just the"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "way I cover stories, like I don't know."}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "But just I guess the motivation is"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "people want to get rich or I I I'm just"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "trying to think like I guess that's the"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "main motivation of doing that"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "and um I guess I just don't have I again"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "I I I would feel guilt."}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "I would feel bad about like putting out"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "bad information or you know what I mean?"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "Yes, of course. Cuz you're you're like a"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "normal good person."}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "Well, yeah. I mean it's just weird."}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "Yeah. I just I don't know. I don't want"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "to go to bed at night feeling bad about"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "that, you know? It's just not worth it."}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "As long as I can like make enough money,"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "but I don't need, you know, to"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "Right. You also like I've always had"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "this theory, you know, psychologists"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "will talk about how everyone secretly"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "wants to be famous and I think there's"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "tremendous data to back that like"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "everyone even the people that are like I"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "would never want like there's you would"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "love to be able to be known for"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "something or something like that and I I"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "I would love to be able to be known for"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "what I what I do here and things but I I"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "think there's a difference between the"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "gene of wanting to be famous and wanting"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "fame."}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "And there not everyone wants the second"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "one. The second one is like the types of"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "people who"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "want to have their agent call ahead of"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "time when they're at a restaurant so the"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "paparazzi is there and they can act like"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "they're pissed about it, but really"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "that's what they live for, right? And I"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "think that"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "in many cases a lot of the people who"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "will just kind of go all in on the"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "clicks regardless of what they believe."}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "There's an aspect of them that wants"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "that kind of thing. Like even if it's"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "hate, they just love the lights and"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "camera and attention"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "even when it's negative."}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "Yes. and you don't have that. I don't"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "have that. A lot of my friends who are"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "public figures like that I know in in"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "the space don't have that. But then I"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "see other people I'm like"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "yeah I think it's finding that ground"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "too of like you want to be you want your"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "stuff to be seen. I mean that's the"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "whole point of you you you want your"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "stuff to be seen. You want people to you"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "want it to have value but um you don't"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "want to cross over into that like"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "you know you get too popular and then"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "you you just lose touch with reality."}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "Even like coming here to New York City"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "right now, filling in for Cuomo last"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "night, like I like doing that,"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "but I you know, even when I'm in the"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "city, like you just you don't really"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "know real America if you just live in"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "that world."}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "Yes."}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "You know, in the studio all the time"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "like I mean, you know,"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "I 100%. It's a bubble. You know, I think"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "it's so like I was I just got back in"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "last night, went out of town. Like I"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "think it's so important to get out of"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "here"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "and stuff and and see things. The one"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "thing I will say though about regardless"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "of where you live is I think people also"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "sometimes choose to live in that bubble"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "and I don't mean that physically. I mean"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "that from like a curiosity perspective."}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "Like I was in the definition of a bubble"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "when I lived in my parents house as"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "someone who's lifelong from New Jersey,"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "you know, a coastal warrior, what"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "whatever you want to call it."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "But I couldn't go anywhere because I had"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "no money to go anywhere. But as I was"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "growing the profile, I have always just"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "gone out of my way to connect with"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "people who are fans of this show or even"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "haters of this show, like where they're"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "from. I could talk to someone who's in"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "Sweden or someone who's in Morocco or"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "someone who's in Iowa or someone who's"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "in New Mexico and their whole life is"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "different and I'm like genuinely"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "interested in what's important to them"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "and why. Now, that's not the same as"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "going there and understanding that, but"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "I find myself when I'm walking down"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "these streets in New York sometimes"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "passing people and just kind of knowing"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "that like, oh, this is this is their"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "only reality. They just know this. And"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "it's like, dude, there's a whole wide"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "world out there. You have to understand"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "people don't think like you do."}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "When it always amazes me that so much"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "media is based out of New York and it's"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "like these people just live in this"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "ecosystem but claim to understand the"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "whole country and world. It's just"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "weird, you know."}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "It's very weird, man. You got it. you"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "got to, I guess, broaden your horizons a"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "little bit. And but you know what that's"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "also, we've seen different movements,"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "and I don't even mean this just"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "politically. We've just seen cultural"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "shifts over the last 10 to 15 years"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "where it's clear that a lot of people,"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "like I'll just speak for within this"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "country, are like, \"Fuck that.\""}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "You know, you can sit there, we have the"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "internet now, we can talk to each other,"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "right? You can sit there and in your"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "bully pulpit and pretend that you"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "understand what's going on, but if if"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "you're talking [ __ ] you're going to"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "get called out for that. And that's why"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "we've seen, by the way,"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "you know, that's I think that's why News"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "Nation exists because you're doing"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "something that is against what the"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "business model is supposed to be. And"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "yet you're doing pretty well because"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "there's enough people who are like, \"Yo,"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "[ __ ] these people that are over here and"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "here just telling us what we already"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "know we're going to hear from them.\""}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "Yeah. And you you need people even"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "though there's so many people online now"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "and so many podcasts like you still need"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "people to go out and find the"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "information and actually report. Like"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "that's right. You got to show up and"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "like try to talk to people and beg to"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "get in and then ask the hard questions."}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "Like"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "if you don't do, you know what I mean?"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "That gives everybody else something to"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "talk about too, you know?"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "Of course. Of course. Thank you guys for"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "checking out this clip. If you haven't"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "already subscribed, please subscribe and"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "hit the like button on this video. It is"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "a huge, huge help. And if you'd like to"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "check out this clip's full podcast"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "episode, that link is in the description"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "below or right here. And finally, you"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "can follow me on Instagram and X by"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "using the links in my description below."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:01", "text": "It's almost like you go to a car dealer"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "and you know the car salesman wants to"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "be your friend and is like trying to"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "cozy up to you."}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "And you don't want it. You're just like,"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "\"No, I"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "you you don't care about my family."}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "Let's just, you know, let's just put it"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "on the table, but you've been having"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "this interaction with an LLM or a GPT in"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "which it knows you're looking for a car."}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "it knows whether you liked the car"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "because now you're chatting with it"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "about"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "uh you know how do I get out of this"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "lease or how do I unwind this or what"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "are the aftermarket you know what's the"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "what's the aftermarket for this so now"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "it knows how you feel about the car"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "um we haven't even like"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "talk about sort of adversarial machine"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "learning and training data as a way of"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "influencing a society"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "where it's not you're not hacking chat"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "GPT you are"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "creating data that chat GPT trains off"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "of yes that fulfills a narrative that"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "you seek"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "seen that already"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "China's answer to chat GPT"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "uh has been trained to give glowing"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "feedback on China"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "China is exporting that technology no"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "differently than they try to export"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "Huawei. They seed it into emerging"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "developing economies."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "Yep."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "And next thing you know they have"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "created uh a society that is all in on"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "the China narrative because that's how"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "they've that's how they've engaged with"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "technology."}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "You hack the library, you control the"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "readers. So um"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "when the when the large language model"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "is dirty,"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "it doesn't, you know, the AI is just the"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "AI is a rule engine. It's just"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "responding. But if it's if it's if it's"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "been schooled and learned, you know, we"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "talk about, you know, my learning is,"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "you know, I I come from a perspective,"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "its perspective is that large language"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "model. Um, that is one of those easy"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "buttons for influence."}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "I'm going to, you know, we're going to"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "do this belt and road deal and I'm going"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "to throw in deepseek."}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "Y"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "and all of that data, all of the, you"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "know, the the prompts and this is the"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "other thing that you know people are"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "concerned that their privacy is being"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "violated because of the um the"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "engagement. It's the prompts like you're"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "you will in chat GPT you know your your"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "privacy in terms of what you're chatting"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "about is locked down but the questions"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "you ask and the interactions that is"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "proprietary"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "and and that's the metadata that"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "um you know this is what you were asking"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "about so that almost provides this meta"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "layer of you think Google knows what"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "you're interested"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "different than Google what they did with"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "their model"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "even but even or"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "of course"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "because now like they saw that you're"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "interested in purchasing a car."}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "Yep."}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "They can see that transaction through."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "It's almost like you go to a car dealer"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "and you know the car salesman wants to"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "be your friend and is like trying to"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "cozy up to you"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "and you don't want it. You're just like,"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "\"No, I"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "you don't care about my family. Let's"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "just, you know, let's just put it on the"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "table.\""}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "But you've been having this interaction"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "with an LLM or a GPT in which it knows"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "you're looking for a car. It knows"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "whether you liked the car because now"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "you're chatting with it about uh you"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "know, how do I get out of this lease or"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "how do I unwind this or what are the"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "aftermarket, you know, what's the what's"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "the aftermarket for this? So now it"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "knows how you feel about the car,"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "but it's it's like your friends. So,"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "you're revealing things that you"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "wouldn't talk to the salesman about why"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "you want to buy this car, but the GPT"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "knows."}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "Gets weird."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "It gets weird."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "What drives you to do what you do?"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "Um, so"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "this thing that everybody is is very"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "interested in. It's kind of like it's"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "like a lagging indicator. I did that. I"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "did that. You know, what's next? or am I"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "am I a one-trick pony?"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "do you love what you do?"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "Um, I think that"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "I have crafted what I do in a way that"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "allows me to pick and choose what I want"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "to do."}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "Um, I don't walk into an office and like"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "what's on what's what's on the queue for"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "today. I get to say no to what I want to"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "say no to."}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "Um, and I think that that's I think that"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "that's sort of the the career of the"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "future because AI is going to automate a"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "lot of these white collar jobs. So until"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "you can find a lane in which there is a"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "very special skill set in which you are"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "uniquely qualified to fulfill"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "uh and figuring what that out figuring"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "what that is out early."}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "I think that's I think that's the what"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "what people need to think about in terms"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "of what do I do what am I going to do"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "with myself? What where do I find"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "meaning?"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "You're not going to find meaning in"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "meaning in a job job."}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "Um, pays the bills. It's paycheck. Leave"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "it at that. Um,"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "but this was this was an evolution. Like"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "I took a lot of [ __ ] too."}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "Where can your skills make a difference?"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "Yeah. And and where do where is this"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "going to take me in a direction where"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "I'm just going to get frustrated? Um, so"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "I think it's uh I think that um"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "tech is interesting."}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "Um, but I think we need to look at it"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "from a"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "um we need to be able to question what"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "is its value."}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "Um, and be able to have those"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "conversations"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "um without having to apologize for it."}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "I like that,"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "you know. Um, we're entitled to privacy."}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "We need to get serious about it."}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "Well, I think you explaining how it"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "works a little better certainly helps"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "people. So, I'm glad we could do this"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "again and fill in on some of the things"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "we didn't get to last time in episode"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "243. But, thanks for coming back so"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "soon."}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "My pleasure. I hope the 1033 discussion"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "didn't I'm like, wow, people. That's"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "good. That's a real show sticker right"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "there. the 1033"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "talking about CFBP rule like okay"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "I'm gonna listen to something else."}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "No, I I think that I wasn't aware of"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "that. So,"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "but that's one of those like nobody"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "knows about it and it's boring. People"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "want to know that's how it starts."}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "I don't think it's boring. I think"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "people are like, \"What is that? What the"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "fuck?\" So, I appreciate you sharing"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "stuff like that. We'll do it again"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "sometime. All right."}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "All right, everybody else. You know what"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "it is. Give it a thought. Get back to"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "me."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "Peace. Thank you guys for checking out"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "this clip. If you haven't already"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "subscribed, please subscribe and hit the"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "like button on this video. It is a huge,"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "huge help. And if you'd like to check"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "out this clip's full podcast episode,"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "that link is in the description below or"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "right here. And finally, you can follow"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "me on Instagram and X by using the links"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "in my description below."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:01", "text": "whether it's purposeful or unpurp"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "purposeful, but like jumping to"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "conclusion as evidence. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "Which I would describe as like it will"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "probably end up being misinformation"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "around this. There's a lot of that and"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "it's very hard for me to keep track of"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "all of it. I'm not even going to There"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "was one thread I was looking at"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "yesterday and I'm like, what proof?"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "I don't think it would have to be that"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "way. I think a lot of, you know, first"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "of all, people call every single thing"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "that ever happened a conspiracy now. And"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "I think that actually hurts, you know,"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "hiding real conspiracies because like"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "that is not the case. There are plenty"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "of things where, you know, whether you"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "like it or not, it's not a conspiracy."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "It's just like bad people did bad"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "or, you know, people were careless or"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "something like that. But then there are"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "there are the real ones and there's some"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "where when you look at something like"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "this when you can create a you know to"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "use the Joker term chaos like in the"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "middle of everything where people don't"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "know it's coming every even though"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "people have their phones up people are"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "jumping around like this creating"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "different angles different perspectives"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "illusions if you will I use that word"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "very deliberately there it gives room"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "for a lot of people say in positions of"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "authority whether that be campus police,"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "regular police, sheriffs to not have"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "anything to do with it, legitimately not"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "be in on it, not even have an inkling"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "about it, but just because of the shock"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "factor of what happened, all the little"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "teeny things that three or four people"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "were in on, you don't notice it or it"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "looks like it could be something else."}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "You know, that's why I do think people"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "jump into conclusions with watching"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "people reacting is going too far because"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "you will people react in all different"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "ways. you know, there's people who"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "freeze,"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "but it's it's a state case. That's the"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "other thing. I mean, the FBI is"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "investigating help with it, but it's"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "state charges. I mean, it's a it's a"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "local prosecutor,"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "Um I I just I don't know. It's It's Utah"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "where they're kind of like I don't know."}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "Like again, these sheriffs were kind of"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "like I I just got the vibe like they"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "wouldn't be afraid to be like they"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "wouldn't want to tell their people the"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "truth. You know what I mean? They're"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "kind of like on their own out there."}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "They don't really care about the feds."}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "You know what I mean? Like I feel like"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "they're annoyed by the feds."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "So"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "I just I don't know. But I wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "someone be sounding the alarm from"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "inside law, you know? Why why would they"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "be in on it? Why would the local"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "prosecutor be in on it?"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "I don't think they would be. That's my"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "point. I don't think those guys would"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "be. What I do want to know, this is"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "where it gets more to how they've been"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "dealing with the case after the fact, is"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "what the details here are here of his"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "lack of cooperation. because Tyler"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "Robinson turned himself in, which by all"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "accounts that's how it went down. That's"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "what my guy my guy like broke down"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "exactly how it happened and that appears"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "to be what it was. And then suddenly,"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "you know, the governor comes out and"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "says, \"But he's not cooperating.\" That"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "was a little weird. Is it just when you"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "talk to these guys, were they saying"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "like, you know, he's a killer that had a"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "change of heart on admitting guilt"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "because the death penalty is there?"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "Well, maybe"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "they didn't. So, they were careful about"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "some things. they would say, I mean,"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "it's an ongoing case, so like there were"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "some things they weren't going to talk"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "about like him and stuff. I mean, he's"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "in their jail and they told me he's"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "getting a lot of letters and stuff,"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "which was kind of, I guess, not a"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "surprise, but in terms of"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "specifics that they wouldn't go there."}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "Um, but it would make sense. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "once you get a lawyer, they're going to"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "tell you not to talk anymore. I mean, if"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "he gave the confession with his dad and"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "the family friend, you know, once he got"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "in, you know, I that that part doesn't I"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "don't think is that weird that he"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "stopped talking."}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "Also, once you realize like they're"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "trying Also, once you realize these"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "people are trying to kill me,"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "right? But like he knew"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "he knew he'd be facing that when he"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "turned himself in."}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "Probably. But do you think he really"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "thought all of that through?"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "I want to be careful because I don't"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "want to say like what my guy said. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "I I'll I'll say this."}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "The way"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "the way he was described to me was dead"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "to the world."}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "Interesting."}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "Dead to the world. And there was a very"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "uh clear piece of evidence on that which"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "is not how the father was described. The"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "father was described as emotionally"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "completely distraught."}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "And when you say he was described as"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "dead to the world, Tyler Robinson,"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "lights are on, nobody's home. like he"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "was given something to be dead to the"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "world."}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "No, no, they didn't say that. I mean I"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "mean that's a whole another layer maybe,"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "but that's not what"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "More like you know people that give you"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "a thousand yard stare"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "and they're just not there."}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "That's"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "Well, people also, you know, I've seen"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "it. People have psychotic breaks."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "Yes."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "I mean, you've just done something that"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "is crazy. I mean, I don't know. You know"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "what I mean?"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "Um, but yeah, I mean, look, like I said,"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "I don't know. The text messages are"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "weird, obviously."}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "Um, which the sheriff acknowledged to"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "me. You know, the text messages between"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "him and the"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "You're taking the words out of my mouth."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "I was going to ask you what you thought"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "of those. It sounded like my"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "grand I guess I just wanted to say I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "not trying I don't know like I'm not"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "trying to make the point one way or the"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "other. It's"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "you know that Steve Bushi meme where"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "he's dressed like a kid and he's like,"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "\"Hello there, fellow children.\""}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "That was the vibes I got from"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "Very weird. Right."}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "And even the sheriff admitted that to"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "me."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "I appreciate that."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "You know, um he's like, \"Yeah, you know,"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "so how does he explain like in admitting"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "that like how does he know I mean he's"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "like they talk they they talk to each"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "other strangely, you know,"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "and also the you know the roommate"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "slashlover"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "um you know where is gone. We don't know"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "where. Maybe witness protection"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "program.\""}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "Um yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "So that's"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "don't you think like a little"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "transparency not saying like oh he's in"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "our witness protection program but be"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "like don't you think you could come out"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "and press conference and be like by the"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "way we know exactly we're we're talking"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "with them we know exactly"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "yeah well they've made clear since the"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "very beginning that he is not a person"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "of interest and they kind of went out of"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "their way from the very beginning to say"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "that over and over again which makes me"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "think that he's like very cooperative"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "and they are kind of trying to protect"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "him but also how do you say that when"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "he's on these texts,"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "you know, in my opinion, when you read"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "the transcript of the text, not like"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "admitting or in any way that he was a"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "part of planning it, he does seem to be"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "like, \"Oh, you did this.\" But"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "there's also an aspect of like you could"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "be saying like, \"Oh, you mean you did"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "this? I'm going to write that.\""}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "But also like they dress up in these"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "like furry costumes. And I mean like"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "it's kind of like we're trying to I"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "don't know how to understand these"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "people. Like"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "you know what I mean?"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "It's strange."}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "Yeah. like they might just be really"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "weird."}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "That is certainly,"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "you know,"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "certainly a possibility. And I and I"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "appreciate you looking at this through"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "the lens of like,"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "yeah, because it's also like a brave"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "thing to do in today's society where"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "everyone wants to run to the worst case"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "possible, like craziest scenario, but"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "looking through it through the lens of"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "like, all right, what are the best who"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "am I talking with? What are the best"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "facts I can get? You know, as the story"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "changes, I'll change. But you really got"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "to show me stuff that's more than like,"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "look at that guy doing"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "well. This is one of those stories where"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "for me I feel like my role is like I"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "will get like I put out the interview"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "with the sheriff, got it on video, put"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "it out, went up on the roof. Like I will"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "put out what I can find out, but I'm not"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "like you can do without what you want,"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "You know what I mean? Like I don't I'm"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "not going to tell you innocent until"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "proven guilty with Tyler Robinson. Like"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "you know what I mean? There are certain"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "cases where it's like I feel like I'm"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "trying to show people"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "like the outcome or the reason or who's"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "respon but like with this one it's like"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "I'm just going to give you the"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "information and people can decide how"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "they want. You know what I mean?"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "I think that's very smart because the"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "way"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "and also he's not been I mean he's going"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "to go to trial probably like it's not my"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "job to say this guy's guilty right now."}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "That's not the way our system works."}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "That's correct. Yeah. Yeah. Like you're"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "you're doing it like by the book in a"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "way. I appreciate that cuz it like"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "god damn the amount of"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "you know"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "whether it's purposeful or unpurp"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "purposeful but like jumping to"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "conclusion as evidence which I would"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "describe as like it will probably end up"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "being misinformation around this."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "There's a lot of that and it's very hard"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "for me to keep track of all of it. I'm"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "not even gonna There was one thread I"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "was looking at yesterday and I'm like"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "what proof and it was trending like"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "crazy on this case. Like what?"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "But when when when Gabby was found and"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "then I guess it was within a few days"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "they found Brian's body and it was clear"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "what had happened here. You know, you're"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "you've been talking with the parents"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "this whole time. Like you said, she had"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "this amazing family and extended family"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "and all that. Obviously, they're"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "devastated. Obviously, we saw that"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "publicly. They went and talked at these"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "press conferences about it and"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "everything, but like"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "how did you once they found her body and"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "you knew now she she was deceased and"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "all signs pointed towards the now"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "missing Brian Laundry"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "as the guy like,"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "you know, how did you still do your job"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "without injecting opinion? And"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "specifically what I mean by that is of"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "course it seemed very obvious that he"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "had done it but we didn't have him in"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "custody and there was a while where the"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "cops didn't even officially say like"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "he's our guy or whatever and your job is"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "to report the news and you know try to"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "be unbiased about it. How do you tow"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "that line when walks like a duck quacks"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "like a duck? It's probably a duck."}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "Yeah. I think by that point um like I"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "was so in I was so tired by that point."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "I was invested. I remember I was doing"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "this one live stream. It was late at"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "night. It was dark. Everyone else was"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "gone. A lot of times it was just me and"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "Louise there because we were on the"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "lawn. And I was doing a live stream on"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "like Twitter. And I remember I was"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "walking down the street in front of the"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "laundry house after they had found her"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "body. And um I remember like I was in"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "flip-flops and like gym shorts and it"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "was like a I think it was a Friday or"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "Thursday and I just remember like it hit"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "me. I was being I had kind of crossed"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "the line a little bit of just being like"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "sad. I mean, of course, it's okay to be"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "sad about it, but like I remember"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "thinking to myself, like, what are you"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "doing? Like, this isn't your job. Like,"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "you you've gone too far. And then I"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "remember looking at myself like in my"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "gym short, like, you know, it's okay to"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "wear, but I'm like, I'm in freaking gym"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "shorts and flipflops."}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "Like, I'm a you know, yeah, there's"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "nothing wrong with No, but I just mean"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "like I don't know. that combined with"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "like me feeling like I was getting too"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "emotional and I I remember this moment"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "of just like I think you're going crazy"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "a little bit like I think you're just"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "tired and you got to go home for the"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "weekend. So I remember that and by and"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "by that time when she was found I"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "I felt a little less of a need too to um"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "like stay there. I mean he had been"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "found, she had been found. I mean"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "granted I was still wondering if the"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "parents were maybe going to get arrested"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "or something, but I remember that was"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "one of the first weekends I went home."}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "It was just kind of like a you need to"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "like chill out a little bit, you know?"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "Um like you've you're kind of like"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "losing it."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "So, and I think I was also sad. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "I I gotten to know our family. I got I"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "just became so invested and then I went"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "back. I remember went home for the"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "weekend. I went back and then it became"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "like people were associating me with the"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "lawn in the house"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "and expecting me to be there every day"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "like in case the parents got arrested."}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "Like there was like this almost pressure"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "to stay there. And I remember after like"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "another week or two went by, I remember"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "telling Louise like like at what point"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "do we leave? Like"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "do we have to stay here? Like I feel bad"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "leaving, but I also feel like it was"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "becoming a little like you know when do"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "we again like crossing the line a little"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "like okay the parents aren't getting"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "arrested like when do we leave their"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "lawn? Like"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "it's like when does the story"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "and I remember people were like mad"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "about it. They're like, \"You can't"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "leave.\" Like, \"No, you have to stay.\""}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "Cuz they It's almost like they wanted"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "justice and me leaving was like a I"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "don't know. Like they felt like they"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "weren't going to get justice or"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "something as judge."}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "No. No. Yeah. Right."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "I think that was just people's emotional"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "attachment. Like it becomes your"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "literally I used this phrase earlier,"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "but it becomes your meaning of life when"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "you're involved."}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "Yeah. People be like, \"I have your"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "notifications on.\" Like every time I"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "would go live from out there, like they"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "were so glued to it"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "and then it was kind of like, you know,"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "well, I think it's it's done, you know?"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "Yeah. That was where the news daddy"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "Brian thing was. I'm pretty sure"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "that's where the news daddy came from,"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "right? It's like that's now you're going"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "to carry that around forever."}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "It's a pretty hard nickname, you know?"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "Yeah. It's not bad, I guess."}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "Yeah. You got like a good cult following"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "of females."}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "Yeah. At first, I felt kind of bad about"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "I'm like like a daddy."}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "I don't really know."}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "But then I was like I just kind of"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "embraced I mean, I don't ever like"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "really use it myself, but like at first"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "I was like embarrassed like no, please"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "no."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "Nan, get that merch going, baby."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "And now I actually thought about like I"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "I don't know if I want to do it, but I"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "thought like it would be fun to have"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "merch and like donate all the money to"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "like the Gabby Patito Foundation or"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "something like that. But then I'd still"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "have to be selling news daddy stuff,"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "which is kind of embarrassing."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "Own it."}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "Yeah. But if it goes to like a good"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "cause, I mean,"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "yeah, maybe"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "you got to be here for it."}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "Yeah. Did by the way when you were"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "living in the tent for weeks effectively"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "like where do you shower?"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "Well I had a hotel so we were I had a"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "Spring Hill Suites. Okay."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "That was the closest thing. So we would"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "go back to the hotel and shower and you"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "know it was more like just sort of our"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "like home base."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "So you weren't like [ __ ] you know Tom"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "Hanks and Cast."}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "I was going to say like you looked you"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "looked like you were ready to go every"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "day. I wouldn't guess."}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "And we could go we also they would let"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "us in their house to use the bathroom to"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "our friends who were renting the lawn"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "from."}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "That's nice."}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "Yeah. And it's so funny like they still"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "live there and I still stay in touch"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "with them and uh they the laundry still"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "live there and they like they just hate"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "each other. I mean you know they hate"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "each other."}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "Wait, the laundry still have not moved?"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "They haven't. No. Which is super weird"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "to me."}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "That's so weird. They got to have no"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "friends. I mean"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "Yeah. For a while I thought they weren't"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "moving cuz like in you know they got"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "sued by the potatoes and that turned"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "into a whole thing and I'm like well"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "maybe they're not moving cuz there's a"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "law in Florida that like you can't take"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "someone's house in a lawsuit. M"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "like I don't think every state has that,"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "but in Florida like if you sue someone"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "in Florida and you win, you still can't"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "take their house. So I was like, well"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "maybe they're just staying there like"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "just in case they lose like they'll"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "still have their house. But now that's"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "over with and they still haven't left."}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "Did they settle that case?"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "They did"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "out of court."}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "Yeah, they settled out of court, but"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "like a lot came That's where we found"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "out about them hiring the lawyer early"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "on and the burn, you know, burn after"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "reading letter. All these weird things"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "that all came out through the lawsuit,"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "which I think is what the Petitos"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "wanted. Like that was their that was"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "their I mean I don't think have a ton of"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "money so the main point was just to like"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "make them confess all this stuff."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "Yeah, that was I'm glad you brought that"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "up actually though because we were"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "talking about oh how would you handle"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "the situation? Whatever. One of the"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "really damning things that I can say"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "goes well beyond what I would ever do as"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "a parent in that situation was when that"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "letter from the mom, the burn after"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "reading letter came out where I believe"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "the line in there literally was,"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "\"I don't care if if you killed someone,"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "I would cover for you.\""}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "And something about putting like a knife"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "in a cake and there was just really"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "weird."}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "Very strange."}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "Yeah. Strange,"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "you know. So, that whole dynamic was"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "off, but that's crazy that they still"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "live there."}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "Yeah, I know. And I still, like I said,"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "I still talk to uh Keith and Debbie. Uh"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "and they um"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "Hey, Keith."}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "Yeah. Hope you're watching."}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "And sometimes we'll actually go by like"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "I saw them maybe like uh maybe like a"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "six months ago, a year. Actually was it"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "was pretty recently I was driving"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "through there for another story like"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "that part of Florida and we just swung"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "by to say hi to them and like they're"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "just like so nice. But they're always"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "like they didn't like therries before"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "cuz again they have two pugs and I guess"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "therries didn't like their dogs which"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "like who doesn't like two pugs? Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "So, like they kind of had a weird thing"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "before this, but now it's like, you"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "know, the whole neighborhood's kind of"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "turned on them."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "Yeah. Just imagine going out for your"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "Well, they don't do newspapers anymore,"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "but you're going out to get your mail"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "just like staring each other down."}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "I know. Awkward. Yeah. I did notice they"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "put a big hedge up in front now. The"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "laundry day. They didn't have like a"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "hedge before."}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "I guess they learned from the first time"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "around. I guess there's a second."}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "Yeah. Oh, god. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "Yeah. Let's Let's hope not. But when"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "when when Gabby was found and then I"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "guess it was within a few days they"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "found Brian's body and it was clear what"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "had happened here. You know, you're"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "you've been talking with the parents"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "this whole time. Like you said, she had"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "this amazing family and extended family"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "and all that. Obviously, they're"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "devastated. Obviously, we saw that"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "publicly. they went and talked at these"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "press conferences about it and"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "everything, but like"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "you know what's what's that like talking"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "with someone where you've become close"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "to them during a story where you're"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "hoping you're going to be able to find"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "their missing loved one and now the"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "worst has happened so they have closure"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "I guess but they don't have whatever"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "that even means but they the the worst"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "possible outcome has has now happened."}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "Yeah. I mean, it's hard. Usually, I"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "honestly just try to like back off at"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "that point for a while. You know what I"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "mean? It's kind of like, what am I going"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "to do at that point? You know, I'll"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "usually send a text or like a call, one"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "maybe one call. I'm so sorry. you know,"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "and then it's weird now that I've"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "covered like more of these kinds of"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "things and they're all different, but"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "like you know, tragedies like this. It's"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "weird how like when you do one now, it's"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "almost like"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "you can you can see what's it's going to"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "be like for these parents even before"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "they know cuz I've seen it with the"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "other cases. You know what I mean? Which"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "is a really weird feeling."}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "Yeah. And sometimes I'll connect people"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "with um Gabby Patito's parents"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "like wow. Yeah. Like I've done that like"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "two times where I'm like"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "um you know let me put you in touch with"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "uh you know cuz everybody knows Gabby"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "Patito. So I'll be like you remember the"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "Gabby Patito case? And they're like"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "yeah. And I'm like I covered that case."}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "I'm like would you want me to put you in"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "touch like maybe for like if if it's a"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "new mom that I'm talking to who just"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "lost a kid or something. I'm like do you"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "want me to put you in touch with Gabby's"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "mom? And Gabby's mom has always been"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "cool with that. So I don't even have to"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "ask her anymore. And I'll give them her"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "cell phone number cuz it's like they can"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "they're like in this weird club that no"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "one else can understand. Like Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "Especially with all the media attention."}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "I'm like if you need help navigating all"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "this like you know and then I'll they'll"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "they'll talk to them."}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "Good for them doing that."}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "Yeah. They'll do it every time."}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "That's amazing. You know, again, I don't"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "know how I deal with this kind of thing,"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "but you might think that, you know,"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "after something like that has happened,"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "you go through this whole thing, you"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "just you don't want to ever be around"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "that. It's got to be traumatic to be"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "around that. But for them to like,"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "I don't know, pay that forward or"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "however you would say it to help other"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "people in need, that's they really are"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "amazing people."}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "They are. And I just interviewed them. I"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "interviewed Gabby's mom and stepmom,"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "Tara, maybe like a month ago. Uh, and"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "um, because it had been like a I think"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "it had been four years or Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "And um, you know, I had talked to them"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "so much in between and connected them"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "with people and talked about their"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "foundation and all sorts of like kind of"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "business not businessy, but like you"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "know, not things about Gabby, just like,"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "oh, can you talk to this family or they"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "would they'll also reach out to me"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "because they'll people will come to them"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "with missing cases and then they'll be"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "like, hey, can you cover this case? Like"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "not get any coverage. But then when I"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "did the interview with them like a month"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "ago about Gabby, I kind of forgot like I"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "mean I was even guilty of it like we"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "said earlier. People forget how real it"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "is. Like they were emotional again and"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "I'm like oh my god like I forgot like"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "this is still"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "like so real. This is still this is"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "still their daughter. Like you know what"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "I mean?"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "Oh of course you never"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "That's the I think that's the one most"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "unfathomable thing is is burying your"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "kid."}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "Yeah. And you forget because they are so"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "strong in public and they're so on the"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "phone and blah. But then I was like, \"Oh"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "my god, like I gotta remember like this"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "is still this is still raw in a lot of"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "ways.\""}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "Yeah. And they had the support of like"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "an entire nation at the time or"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "whatever. And just like you said, you"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "feeling weird about leaving the tent"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "because the story is mostly happening is"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "what it is and your job is done. You"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "know, when whenever someone dies, it's"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "like if you're lucky and you have a lot"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "of loved ones, people are there for you"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "and then the next week life goes on."}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "It's a very strange"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "thing. But, you know, for them to go"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "from that to that, you know, as far as"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "public support and and things like that"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "goes cuz the the world goes on. I I I"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "can't imagine that. And, you know, it's"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "always going to"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "it's always a hole there that can never"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "be filled in any way. And that's why I"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "I'm not envious of the job you have to"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "do on a lot of these cases because you"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "you know I I know you're a news guy and"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "like you have a job to do and all that,"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "but it's very clear talking with you"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "today and I really kind of knew this"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "before you came here. It was pretty"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "obvious like there are pieces of this"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "you always take home cuz you're like"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "these are real people involved. You get"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "tight with them, you know, in some"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "cases, and then you're like, damn. You"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "know, and just like you said, you talk"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "to them four years later and it hits you"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "again like, \"Wow, their daughter's"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "gone.\" Yeah. What do you even say?"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "Yeah. No, it's true. You got to And it's"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "like you got to remind yourself of that"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "a lot."}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "Yeah. cuz it's easy to a lot of people"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "out there will take advantage of these"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "families"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "cuz they go from being just regular"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "people to thrust in the limelight with"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "everybody wanting a piece of them"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "and uh you know people will just sort of"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "you know take advantage of them"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "for sure. It's also like you get strange"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "characters in the middle of it like the"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "lawyers and stuff who do have a job to"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "do by the way their job is to give the"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "constitutional right for someone's"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "defense. So I I empathize with that, but"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "then you know in the middle of like"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "someone being missing, the tactics that"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "are used are strange and it's like"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "what's the moral boundary there? It's"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "just it's just it it's almost too too"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "much for me to even try to process."}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "Yeah. And there's people that suddenly"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "show up, you know, not with the petitos"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "at all, but like some of the cases, you"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "know, there'll be like some extended"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "family member that shows up that"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "suddenly the family spokesperson. You're"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "kind of like and they're always wanting"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "to go on and then they create the"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "GoFundMe and there's a whole kind of"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "weird dark side. for sure"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "to all of this that sometimes comes out"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "for sure"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "that you kind of see over and over again"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "and you're like"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "you know"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "last question on on the Gabby thing just"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "because we mentioned it a little earlier"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "and it's an interesting like I don't"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "know Monday morning quarterback thing of"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "looking at it but how like as someone"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "who sees how big this story got"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "literally from the inside how do you"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "look at it when you have a case like"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "this where there's one very innocent"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "life taken and it becomes a phenomen"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "phenomenon and everyone's trying to"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "solve it and they support the family and"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "there's you know there's also love that"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "comes out of a very tragic situation"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "when in fact there are like I was saying"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "there are many other cases that happen"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "every day where people don't get that"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "attention"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "you know cuz part of it is"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "let's be honest like what can the news"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "story sell what's going to get people's"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "attention if someone gets lost in the"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "hood where a hundred people get lost in"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "the hood all the time"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "you know"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "oh we can't sell that. But if some girl"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "from suburbia who is, you know, a"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "beautiful social media influencer"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "or at that time aspiring social media"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "influencer disappears, everything stops."}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "Like, how do you,"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "I don't know, morally weigh that? You"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "know what I mean?"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "Yeah. Totally. Yeah. I had never heard"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "of like missing white girl syndrome, I"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "think they call it. like people started"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "talking about that like oh you guys only"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "care about"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "like if they're pretty white girl"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "basically you know and um and you know"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "that started popping up during the case"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "but I was so into it at that point I was"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "just like I don't have time to even"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "think about you know what I mean like I"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "was obviously doing that"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "but when it was over I remember started"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "we started thinking about it and talking"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "about it and again News Nation was"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "really new and uh it did bother me and"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "it kind of felt like what defense do I"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "have to this Like first of all, I had"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "never covered like missing people"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "before. That was kind of my first real,"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "you know, but I'm like moving forward"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "like I almost felt like guilty."}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "Um and and so did I remember Gabby's"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "parents started talking about it too"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "like and so I remember I went to my"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "bosses"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "um along with a producer I work with,"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "Paige, and we were like, \"We need to do"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "something.\" And uh we started this"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "missing series because of the Gabby"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "Patito story on NewsNation. Um, it"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "started out, we used to call it Missing"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "in America, and apparently that was like"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "someone else already had that name. We"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "did it for a while and they're like, you"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "need to change the name right away. So"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "now it's called Missing."}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "That's your fault."}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Um, so, but we do a case"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "every week, sometimes more. And we focus"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "a lot on um on minorities. Um, you know,"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "we do white women, too, but minorities,"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "also men. There's a ton of missing men"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "that just never get coverage because no"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "one cares about a missing man, you know."}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "And so we I don't know how many hundreds"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "of cases we've done by now, but I mean"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "literally every week Marne Hughes on on"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "NewsNation does it. And uh so that was"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "born out of the Gabby Patito story."}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "Yeah. So that's a nice like"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "I mean there's still more we could do,"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "but at least you don't feel like you"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "just turned a blind eye to that."}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "And we've had success stories, too. You"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "know, we've had people found"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "Oh, you've had people found from that."}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "Yeah. And it's hard to say if it's like"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "because of our series, but"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "definitely helps."}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "Definitely helps. Yeah. Also, even if it"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "just like gets law enforcement be like,"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "\"Ah [ __ ] we should look at that one"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "again.\" Yeah."}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "You know, just gets the wheels turning"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "their job."}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "Yeah. And we do a lot of old cases, too."}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "So, you call up law, like you said, you"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "call them up and you're like, \"We're"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "doing that.\" I think it kind of, you"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "know, makes them feel a little more"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "pressure."}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "And our bosses, like, kudos to them cuz,"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "you know, there's so much news in the"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "world now. It'd be easy for them to be"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "like, \"Well, let's put the missing"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "series aside for\" But, like, we've done"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "it every single week since Gabby Patito."}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "That's great, too, cuz it's also like"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "there's a responsibility there. And like"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "like you said, this was at the beginning"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "of the very beginning of News Nation"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "existing. It's one of the things that"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "that put them on the map. So paying it"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "forward that way, I think is"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "I think it's great. It's a strange"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "situation to be in because you don't"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "control where people's attention is. But"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "it's also like if something bad has"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "happened and people have attention"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "there, you're going to report on it. You"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "know, that's just how it is. Totally."}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "You know, something like that is"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "is really helpful. But like we were"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "saying, you cover a lot of different"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "things. You're on the scene all the"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "time. Like this is like our third try to"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "do this cuz it's like you know you're"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "sitt."}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "Thank you guys for checking out this"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "clip. If you haven't already subscribed"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "please subscribe and hit the like button"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "on this video. It is a huge huge help."}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "And if you'd like to check out this"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "clip's full podcast episode. That link"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "is in the description below or right"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "here. And finally you can follow me on"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "Instagram and X by using the links in my"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "description below."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:01", "text": "And they could have arrested her, by the"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "way."}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "That's what I'm saying. They were more"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "like talking to her and like, \"You okay,"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "man?\""}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "Yeah. But they I mean, in some they, you"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "know, at one point she appeared to be"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "the perpetrator, but it's like then, you"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "know, you almost wish they had arrested"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "her cuz that would have changed"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "everything."}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "Yeah. And and I don't want to I hate to"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "skip around too much, but this just made"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "me think of this because I covered the"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "Charlie Kirk assassination, and I went"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "back to Utah last week, and this kind of"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "relates. I was talking to the sheriff"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "there about Tyler Robinson, the suspect."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "His parents, remember, his parents"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "turned him in and everything,"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "and they were telling me how, you know,"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "the parents turned him in, okay, turned"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "their kid in, but now that the death"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "penalty is on the table, they're not as"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "cooperative. Um, and it just got me"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "thinking. It's like you did the right"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "thing and turned your kid in, but once"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "your kid once you may be executed by the"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "state, is that where you draw the line"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "of like I'm not going to assist you in"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "killing my kid?"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "These are all just weird, you know what"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "I mean? They're weird, you know?"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "Yeah. Now, we we will I I do want to"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "come back to that case and give it the"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "proper, you know, go through and and not"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "get too far off it, but"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "I I had spoken to a source"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "and there's been a lot that's happened"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "since that week obviously that that"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "we'll have to talk about, but I had"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "spoken to a source who had"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "some pretty inside information just on"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "like when he turned himself in and the"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "whole bit. And"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "I I can't even imagine"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "what that did. There's one I I can't say"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "this publicly like what it was, but"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "there was one piece of evidence just"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "like when they went to do it. I guess"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "not evidence, but just something that"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "really drove home the moral conundrum"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "and just disbelief the father was in"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "that just, you know, made me almost pull"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "off the road and throw up because"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "you can't even imagine that your kid"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "would do it. And and I think from what I"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "was told, the dad, at least at that"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "time, really did believe that that his"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "son had actually done this and and"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "perpetrated it and was wrestling with"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "that. And I it it's hard as a human"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "being to not"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "have empathy for that because obviously"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "he didn't pull a trigger or totally"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "decide to do anything like that. But"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "yeah, we we'll we'll come back to that"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "one because I do want to ask you about"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "your reporting a little more"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "specifically and give that the proper"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "light of day. But when one of the big"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "things that happened here was when the"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "the video with with Gabby Patito was"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "when the video of the police body cam"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "got released what was a couple days"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "before she was actually murdered where"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "they had had this domestic dispute."}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "They're pulled over on the side of the"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "road. I forget where was that?"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "Uh Moab, Utah."}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "Moab, Utah. And the cops separated them"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "for the night. had them stay in separate"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "hotels and and didn't book either of"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "them. But the way it came down"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "afterwards was like they were more"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "investigating her."}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "For attacking him. Now, this is just"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "kind of how I look at it. I'm not saying"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "domestic violence doesn't happen from"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "male from female to male sometimes. But"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "like, let's just be honest,"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "biologically, physically, like you know,"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "a male can attack a female in a way that"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "a female cannot attack a male. you know,"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "watching that. I know it's hindsight"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "2020, but when you first see that, are"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "you like me wondering like what the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "are are the cops doing here? Why are"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "they letting them anywhere near each"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "other again?"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "Yeah. And that was also like a big"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "turning point in the story because,"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "you know, we didn't know that he was"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "like abusive or that there was even"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "trouble in their relationship. No one"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "was really saying that. There weren't"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "like friends coming out of the woodwork"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "saying, \"Oh, you know, things were"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "really bad.\" Like, we had no idea. And"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "so when that video came out and also we"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "had only seen videos from of them from"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "social media that were like beautiful"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "like oh my god like oh I want to be"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "friends with this couple like they're"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "amazing. So it was like everything"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "changed in that moment because suddenly"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "there was this other visual now that has"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "come out that it was like oh my god this"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "is a whole different story like yes"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "there's something very bad that was"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "going on and we didn't know that"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "and when we saw the video it was like"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "immediately apparent and um I remember"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "like people were other domestic violence"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "victims women were immediately like"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "drawn to that video and they saw so many"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "things that I didn't see like that as a"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "woman who was a victim of domestic"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "violence, like they could immediately"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "see things in that video and things she"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "was saying and doing and trying to cover"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "for him and they I remember just on"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "social media people were so quick they"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "were like going through the video and"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "and it all became different after that"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "video."}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "What what kinds of you you just"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "mentioned, but like things that she was"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "saying or what were some of the specific"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "things that you were like, \"Oh my god, I"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "wouldn't have seen that.\" But people"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "were pointing out like, \"Oh, it's right"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "there.\""}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "Just the way that she was trying to"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "cover for him throughout the whole"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "thing. um the way that she started like"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "blaming herself kind of like victim you"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "know blaming a little bit. Um I mean if"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "you watch the whole thing I've gone"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "through it with like experts before who"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "can literally like go frame by frame"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "almost"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "and um and it's become like a police"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "training tool to now because they you"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "know they did a whole report in Moab at"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "their police department and you know"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "acknowledge that they made all sorts of"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "mistakes things that they didn't"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "recognize."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "And they could have arrested her by the"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "way."}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "That's what I'm saying. They were more"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "like talking to her and like you okay"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "man."}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "Yeah. But they I mean in some they you"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "know at one point she appeared to be the"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "perpetrator but it's like then you you"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "almost wish they had arrested her cuz"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "that would have changed everything."}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "If they arrested her parents would have"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "you know probably found out it all would"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "have come crumbling down. Maybe they"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "would have come out. You know what I"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "mean? like some I wish they would have"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "done something instead of just basically"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "separating them, sending him to a hotel"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "and which was also weird. You're in the"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "middle I've been to Moab. You were kind"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "of in the middle of nowhere out there."}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "They were right outside like one of"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "those national parks. You send him to a"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "hotel and like keep her with the van by"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "herself. Like that was kind of weird,"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "you know?"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "Yeah. The whole thing was strange. I I"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "didn't I'm not going to lie and pretend"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "I had a ton of"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "personal experience on how they deal"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "with that type of situation where"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "someone where two people are far away"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "from home too, but that did seem like"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "there's got to be a better way to do it"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "than that."}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "Take someone to the drunk tank or"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "something. You know what I mean? Well,"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "and the cops felt terrible, by the way,"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "cuz I I when I went out there,"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "interviewed the chief and, you know,"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "heard a lot and"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "they feel terri I mean, I mean, it was"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "like terrible. Like, some of them"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "couldn't work anymore. I mean, this was"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "like they felt a lot of guilt and and"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "it's so easy to Monday morning"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "quarterback those situations. And there"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "are so many people that go through Moab"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "because it's touristy and beautiful and"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "there's a lot of dem, you know, they"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "they could have never known that it was"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "going to end up like this. So, in a way,"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "I feel bad for the cops, too."}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "Yeah. No, I I do I do have empathy. I I"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "there's a huge difference between being"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "evil and making mistakes on your job."}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "You know, and"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "it it it doesn't surprise me that that"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "they feel guilt for that. But it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "when you watch that whole thing, I"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "forget how long it is, but it's not like"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "2 minutes. I mean, it lasts a little"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "while. When you watch the whole"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "the whole body cam, it's like they were"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "trying to solve the problem. They just"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "seem to have made poor calls on what the"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "solutions were there to do that. They"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "weren't there to be like, \"All right,"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "what the [ __ ] do we have here?\" They"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "were trying to do their job. It's just"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "obviously ended up in the most in the"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "most tragic way. For sure."}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "That's right. Yeah, I agree with you."}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "So, and also that's what really, if I"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "remember correctly, that's what set off"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "the media the social media firestorm"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "more than ever because now you had the"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "image of the crying girl in the car. She"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "still when it came out she still wasn't"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "found at the time and now people were"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "like oh my god like this domestic"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "situation"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "they killed her."}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "You've mentioned it a few times but I I"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "think it's important to like actually"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "look at it from your perspective of what"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "it was like being in the middle of it."}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "But when you are dealing with this"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "modern-day social media machine of true"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "crime fans, which can be fine, but also"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "go way too far with things, and you"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "know, personal investigators who decide"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "to make it like their life's meaning to"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "like try to solve this for clicks and"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "views."}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "How do you deal with that? you know, cuz"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "you're also like you're feeding some of"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "the machine righteously so with giving"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "the story, but then you also want to"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "figure out like, okay, how do I how can"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "I play my role to not have like the"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "worst type of people just try to"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "capitalize on? Yeah, it was weird"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "especially after the video came out cuz"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "like a lot of social media people, true"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "crime people, like true crime tourists"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "some of them called themselves like came"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "out to the scene then and were also"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "there every day um and would you know"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "walk the street and uh you know I don't"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "remember the bullhorns like then they"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "started to get they'd come out with"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "bullhorns come out come outries we know"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "dirt they call them the dirty laundry"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "people started um like having like they"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "flowers delivered to their house for"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "Gabby, which became like a social media"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "frenzy. So all day long, flowers would"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "show up. Flower delivery. I mean, I'm"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "talking constant. Every other minute"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "would be a new flower delivery. And they"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "basically covered the laundry's lawn"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "with flowers. Um, and then they started"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "like the dirty laundry. So they'd put"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "laundry baskets on the lawn. They'd show"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "up because I'd be out there in the"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "middle of night. They'd show up and"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "they'd throw laundry baskets. So it got"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "to be like"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "kind of crazy and like just too much,"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "you know? And uh and a lot of these"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "people would stay out there all day and"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "you kind of had to like co cuz I was on"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "the lawn. You kind of had to like"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "coexist with them. And I've always"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "struggled with this cuz it's like they"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "they usually aren't doing anything bad"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "to me. And I have to like I have to stay"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "out there all the time. So I don't want"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "to really become their enemy"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "like cuz they'll make my life miserable."}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "I mean they they will they'll turn on"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "me. You know what I they'll be behind me"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "every time I'm doing a news report with"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "a blowhorn or you know so"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "I guess it's just I don't know I was"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "always like I don't know how to handle"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "I'm going to be nice to them sort of"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "because I just want to kind of keep them"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "at arms length you know"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "yeah those are the ones on the ground"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "though which I and I remember I'm not"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "going to give some of it the time a day"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "and give them attention but I I remember"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "specifically some of those people but"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "you are also dealing with the people who"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "are nowhere near this thing and are"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "taking pieces of like what you report"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "and a few other people report and like"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "you know creating dark web conspiracies"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "on the whole thing which also"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "you know when the I will remember some"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "of those things would get 2 million"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "likes"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "on TikTok and it's got to impede the"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "investigation."}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "Yeah. No, totally. Um"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "it's frustrating and they'll use"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "clippets of your clips of your news"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "stories and you know use just a little"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "clip to make it seem like one thing and"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "it's so wrong like what they're and and"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "their theories are so wrong. You know"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "what I mean? Like you just know it."}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "You're like I know the case. This is but"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "I don't know that they really care. I"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "think it's just like for clicks and I"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "think there's also like a segment of"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "them that"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "whatever is the truth they'll do the"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "opposite."}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "Like that's just their thing. like"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "that's just what they do."}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "I think you're a thousand% right about"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "that. We live in a especially postco and"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "I understand the genesis of this but"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "we live more and more in a world of"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "automatic contrarianism."}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "Whatever is said therefore the opposite"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "must be true. Yes."}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "And I've said this till I'm blue in the"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "face. I'm sure people are sick of it."}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "But I always refer to like the universal"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "law of physics. For every action there's"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "an equal but opposite reaction."}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "I want to live in a society where those"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "actions are like this. But we're living"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "in a society where those actions are"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "like this and it creates more violence"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "to get to, no pun intended, but you know"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "to get to an equilibrium point. And I"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "think when it's happening on things that"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "aren't"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "political, you know, Gabby Patito's a a"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "tragedy. It's it's not like a polit it's"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "not supposed to be a political story or"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "anything like that. It just shows you"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "how far ranging that mentality is at"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "every level of our culture now."}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. No, totally. I' I hadn't I"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "don't even know if when I was covering"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "Gabby Patito I thought of it that way,"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "but I think now that I've done more of"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "these cases, I realize I I do think"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "that's what people do. Whatever is"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "happening, let's say the opposite and"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "there'll be an audience for that."}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "Yep. Thank you guys for checking out"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "this clip. If you haven't already"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "subscribed, please subscribe and hit the"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "like button on this video. It is a huge,"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "huge help. And if you'd like to check"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "out this clip's full podcast episode,"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "that link is in the description below or"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "right here. And finally, you can follow"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "me on Instagram and X by using the links"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "in my description below."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Brian Laundry had grown up living off"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "the land and so he had, if I remember"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "correctly, he had camped out in this"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "swamp which is a large area too."}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "Huge. Yeah. Huge wildlife preserve."}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. And he knew it well and he"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "hiked there and uh so yeah that people"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "thought you know perhaps he could be"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "You had said you've been working what"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "was his name? Luis."}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "Luis. So you've been working with Luis"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "for a long time."}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "Yeah. So Luis is the best. He um he so"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "him and I worked together in local news"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "in uh Miami before and um did all sorts"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "of crazy things like he's basically my"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "partner in crime. We would you know we"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "did a million hurricanes. We went to"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "Guatemala. There was a volcanic"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "eruption. I mean you name it. We we had"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "been all over the place. Uh and um and"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "then when I got the job at News Nation,"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "I was like Louise, like you got to come"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "with me to News Nation. Like I can't do"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "this by myself, you know? You're like"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "you're my guy, you know? And I remember"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "he was like, \"Wait, what is this whole"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "new startup thing?\" And we were at like"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "a pretty established local station, the"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "kind of place you could just stay"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "forever, make a good living, you know,"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "wasn't going anywhere."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "And uh and finally I kind of convinced"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "him. I'm like, \"This will be an"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "adventure. Let's just do it, you know.\""}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "So I had it's good when you have someone"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "that you can really trust like that. And"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "he'll he'll dial me back too sometimes"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "like, \"Are you sure we want to do you"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "know what I mean? Like I can trust him"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "on that way.\""}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "Yeah. That's that that's obviously"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "incredibly important because you know I"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "I keep thinking there's not a huge"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "difference. It's very similar to like"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "what you're dealing with versus what"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "like a friend of mine Joby Warick deals"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "with. So Job's been a national security"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "reporter for like 30 years. Pulitzer"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "winner the whole bit. And he deals with"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "all this geopolitical stuff around the"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "world. and he talks about it all the"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "time where they will be working on a big"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "story and the minute they're about to"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "press enter and go some of their sources"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "on other stories from intelligence"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "agencies and stuff like that will call"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "them up and say great job on this you"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "got it uh you can't run with it though"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "and they'll say why and they'll say well"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "because x y and z people are gonna die"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "if you do this"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "and then Joby by and a group of other"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "reporters who at the end of the day,"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "they're just going off of what sources"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "say have to go into a conference room"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "and have a meeting to where they have to"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "play their best, you know, throw a dart"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "at the board and see what's right here"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "as to whether or not they're being used"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "by these guys to stop a story that's not"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "in their interests or whether or not"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "they're actually"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "putting lives at danger. And then if"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "that's the case, what is the public"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "interest of lives, so to speak, if we"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "report this? And I always think about"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "being a fly on the wall in that room."}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "I'm like, holy, how do you even"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "How do you make that call? You know, and"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "then the next day you read like, oh, 20"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "people executed and it's like, you know,"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "like Yeah, sort of. I mean, that's"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "harder than I mean, if you if you're"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "dealing with like, you know, lives on"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "the line and you have to make those"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "calls. Um, I don't know that I've ever"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "had a situation quite like that, but um,"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "I've definitely had a lot of situations"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "where the cops have called me and been"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "like, \"Can you hold off for a day or"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "two?\""}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "And usually I'll do it unless unless I"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "feel like we're being used or we've"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "already held off for a day or two and"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "it's like, \"Come on.\" Like, you know?"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "Yeah. When you first got on the scene"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "and thought, you know, you were saying"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "your gut reaction was, \"Oh, they're"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "doing this for social media clout. She's"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "gonna pop out.\" When did that change and"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "you suddenly were like, \"Wait a minute,"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "something happened here.\""}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "I think it was when his parents weren't"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "coming out of the house because like mo"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "most of the time when you go to a story"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "like that, like you know, the parents"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "will come out and talk like, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "where's Gabby? Like we need help, you"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "know, and just the the the way they were"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "um acting just didn't make any sense."}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "Like not only not coming out of the"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "house, but like they'd run to their car"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "like, you know, to avoid.\" It was kind"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "of like why are you acting like this?"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "like if there's nothing wrong here. And"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "that's when I started to think like,"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "okay, there's there's more to this. And"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "I thought I was just going to be there a"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "couple days, you know, like most stories"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "you show up, you know, something usually"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "comes there's usually some kind of"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "outcome in a couple days, 3 4 days, a"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "week. I had no idea that I would be"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "there that long. And then I ended up"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "like retracing her whole journey. Um, I"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "did the road trip, you know, when I"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "ended up just becoming a story that I"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "worked on, you know, pretty much"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "non-stop for, you know, months and"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "months and months."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "Yeah. It's one of those that you'll be"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "talking about on documentaries 30, 40"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "years, for sure."}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "Yeah. And it's weird, too, cuz I've"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "become close to her parents now. Um,"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "and, you know, consider them friends"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "now. It's just a weird sort of It makes"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "a weird circle in a way. You know, it's"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "like you start out it's it's such a"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "story that you're into and then by the"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "end of it you're friends with all these"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "people who were involved and you care"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "about them and it just takes on a whole"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "different you know life in a way."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "It's kind of strange but this is the"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "nature of the news business. It's"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "strange when"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "you know your job is to go get stories"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "and then you kind of you work so hard"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "and then you have your moment where you"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "do an amazing job reporting on a story"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "but unfortunately in the middle of it,"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "you know, there's insane victims too,"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "you know, extended families, direct"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "families, a a young woman"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "killed in her prime. Like"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "that's got to be a little weird, right?"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "where where it's like, yeah, this was a"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "huge moment for me and I did my job and"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "probably helped the case come to a"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "conclusion, by the way, with with the"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "reporting you did, but you know,"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "there there's a there's an empty hole"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "left behind for people."}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "Yeah. And I think for especially like on"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "social media and and the sort of the"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "true crime community, they get so"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "obsessed with these cases. Some of them"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "think of it almost it's like a video"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "game or like a movie they're watching."}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "And unless you're really there on the"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "ground, you don't realize that it's like"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "real people. This is not um you know,"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "this is not a game. This is not"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "entertainment. Uh and for me too, like"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "of course number one is reporting, but"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "you know, you're human first and uh you"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "kind of just have to take a step back."}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "And I was thinking, you know, at the end"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "of Gabby Patito, at the end of Cober,"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "like I sometimes have this moment, you"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "know, when I can finally feel like I can"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "kind of become friends with the families"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "more than just like me always doing my"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "reporting thing. And it's nice to think,"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "wow, I came out on the other side"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "and you know, these people aren't mad at"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "me."}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "You know what I mean? cuz it's like you"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "go so hard and there's so many moments"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "where you could really piss these people"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "off cuz you're bugging them or you're"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "and that's the other thing like you"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "don't you know there are things you're"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "putting out that they don't always like"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "about the victims or you know because"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "you got to do it. I mean that's your job"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "but it's always a good feeling when you"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "come to the other side and it's like"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "there's the good guys and the bad guys"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "and it's like the good guys are cool"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "with me even after all this you know."}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "When did you first come into contact"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "with her parents? What part, you know,"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "where were we at in the case at the"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "time?"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "It was pretty early on. and they were"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "doing um they started doing press"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "conferences with their lawyer basically"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "saying like you know please anybody with"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "information and then they started saying"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "you know that that Brianrey's parents"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "weren't responding to their calls and I"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "think it was around that time when I"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "started texting with them um and it just"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "kind of grew from there. Uh but she has"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "a really unique cool family. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "they're cool. Like her dad, Joe, uh, you"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "know, her parents are divorced, but"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "they're all really close. You know,"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "she's got like two moms and two dads."}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "It seemed very Yeah, I'm I'm glad to"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "hear that. That's legit, too, cuz it is"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "legit. And that's the other interesting"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "thing with covering these stories is you"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "get this like look into these families"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "and these even you put the crimes aside,"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "like you get these this really intimate"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "look into these people's lives. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "like with the Petitas, it's like holy"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "like cow. Like I mean I you know my"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "parents are divorced and they don't get"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "along. Like I'm just like wow. Like this"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "is an amazing like they're an amazing"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "and it's all real. Like they they all go"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "golfing together. They go on vacation"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "together. Like it's really really cool."}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "Yeah. It's I mean"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "when you're watching a family come out"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "and basically like beg the public for"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "help."}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "Mhm."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "And you're starting to see the pieces"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "come together. You see that his, you"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "know, he's left the house at that point,"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "which is crazy that no one, do we even"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "know how he got out?"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "I mean, it sounds like they thought it"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "was the mom leaving one day and it was"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "actually him, which is like so stupid."}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "Like, how do you mistake him for how do"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "you think it's, you know?"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "She's like plus 200 on him or something."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. And she's like Yeah. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "it's like a woman. It doesn't make any"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "sense, you know?"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "So, no, that's nuts. It must have It had"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "I mean, I'm guessing it had to be like"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "middle of the night like back door"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "something like that. Hey guys, if you"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "haven't already subscribed, please hit"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "that subscribe button. It's a huge, huge"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "help. Thank you."}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "I mean, there's so many weird things"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "like, you know, remember it was he ended"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "up in this swamp which was like a half"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "an hour away. So then my life became"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "when when they thought he was in the"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "swamp, they didn't know he was dead, but"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "it could be my life would be like"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "camping out at the house and going to"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "the swamp. Like I would just go back and"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "forth every day obsessively."}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "Crocodile Dundee."}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Because I was like, \"Oh my"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "god, now I got to be at the swamp all"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "the time.\" Like and there was no cell"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "phone service at the swamp. And it was"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "before I had like a Starlink. So like"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "that was really difficult though."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "Imagine going somewhere for half the day"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "and having zero cell phone service in"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "the swamp. So I wasn't able to talk to"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "my bosses. I when stuff would happen I'd"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "be like I'd have to drive to tweet like"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "you know I'd run drive get a tweet out"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "go back to the swamp. Um and"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "you're like the Ted movie. Sorry I was"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "sending a tweet like crash and"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "it was so frustrating though. You know"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "what I mean? Cuz I was like trying to"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "get everything out so fast. Um,"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "are you afraid when you go out to that"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "swamp, though? I mean, it's you and and"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "Louise and who the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "knows. I mean, I'm a little afraid. It's"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "funny. I'm not afraid of like like"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "killers, but I'm afraid of like I mean,"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "I'm a little afraid of like gators at"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "night and stuff. You know what I mean?"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "Like when you're right by the water,"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "like that kind of stuff does kind of"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "freak me out a little, you know?"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "Were you Were you carrying?"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "No, I wasn't. No."}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "Brian, you're from Florida."}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "Yeah. No comment."}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "I thought all you could carry."}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "Yeah. I'm working for News Nation, you"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "know. I got to be careful. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "we got we got corporate policies."}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "They got corporate policies over there."}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "No comment."}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "No comment."}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "All right. I like that."}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "Yeah. I mean, that's uh you're you're"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "talking about though someone who was"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "trained"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "to like live off the land. Brian Anthony"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "had grown up loving camping, you know,"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "being I'm sorry. Did I say did I say"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "your name?"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "That's the other thing. It's so weird"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "that he has the same name as me. And"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "then with Brian Coberger, too. So, it's"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "like all these people with the Brian"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "here, man. Yeah, Brian Laundry had grown"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "up living off the land and so he had, if"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "I remember correctly, he had camped out"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "in this swamp, which is a large area,"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "too."}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "Huge. Yeah. Huge wildlife preserve."}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. And he knew it well and he"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "hiked there and uh so yeah, that people"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "thought, you know, perhaps he could be,"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "you know, would know how to survive out"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "there for a while, which is why I mean"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "they had crazy resources out there, you"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "know, feds, state, local police, people"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "on horses, ATVs, drones, helicopters. I"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "mean, every day it was a massive search"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "and you didn't know if that was going to"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "be the day. And then, you know, you"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "remember again, just back to the"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "weirdness factor, you know, they search"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "for weeks and weeks and we're out there"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "every day and it it was so hot that time"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "of year and just muggy, just middle of"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "Florida, you know, and raining every day"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "and they're searching and these guys are"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "coming out. I mean, every day they're"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "covering every inch and then like his"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "parents go for a random walk in the"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "swamp and like within like 10 minutes"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "find him. Remember that?"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "Uh, yeah. Almost like they knew where he"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "would have ended up."}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "And it's also But it's also like so"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "it's another sinister level because they"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "had to know at that point, you know, he"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "probably had offed himself."}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "And it's like they know"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "obviously they completely [ __ ] up in"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "this whole situation. It's hard to have"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "empathy for them, but like on a human"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "level, like imagine going in there"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "knowing you're going to find"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "the dead body of your son who also now"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "went out a murderer. It's like you want"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "to talk about just a range of"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "things going on in your head. I I can't"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "even fathom that."}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "Totally. Yeah. And I tried to have that"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "perspective a lot too. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "you know, people come"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "like you said. I mean, in a lot of ways,"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "I look back at some of the stuff they"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "knew and it's hard not to think that"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "they're bad people in some ways. But"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "then I talked to a lot of parents"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "throughout the whole thing who were"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "like, you know, when it's your own kid."}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "And you know, people do things for"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "their, you know, when it's your own"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "blood. And I talked to other parents say"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "I turn them in immediately. But a lot of"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "people say, well, you know, it was my"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "own kid. I don't know. You know,"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "you don't A lot of people say, and I try"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "to be really careful with this. It's a"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "common line we can get caught using with"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "anything serious. You'll say, \"If I were"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "blank, then I would blank.\""}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "And I'm a firm believer with most things"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "you don't [ __ ] know."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "Yeah. You know, it's not to say I would"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "really like to think, and I'm not a"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "parent yet, but I would really like to"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "think that I would not have been as"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "obstructive or just like straight up"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "like offensive to people as his parents"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "were. But from the perspective of like"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "also trying to protect your kid,"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "assuming maybe also you actually have it"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "in your head that despite all the"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "evidence to the contrary, he really"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "didn't do this cuz my kid would never."}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "It's hard to imagine what your mind"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "might make you do, right, in that"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "situation. And it's just I mean, it's"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "tragic that the story is just a complete"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "and total tragedy 360\u00b0 around it because"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "of that. Thank you guys for checking out"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "this clip. If you haven't already"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "subscribed, please subscribe and hit the"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "like button on this video. It is a huge,"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "huge help. And if you'd like to check"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "out this clip's full podcast episode,"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "that link is in the description below or"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "right here. And finally, you can follow"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "me on Instagram and X by using the links"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "in my description below."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:01", "text": "Did you have on the Petito case, going"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "back to that, did you have, you know,"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "towards the beginning of you being"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "camped out and, you know, trying to"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "uncover information, was law enforcement"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "asking you questions about"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "that said, both they were young. I think"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "they were like what, 24 and 20,"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "something like that."}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "Young,"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "you know, and they're they're they had"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "moved away from New York. They're living"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "in Florida with his family. His parents,"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "like you said, are at the center of the"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "story and it's like, what do they know?"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "They go on this romantic journey across"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "the country. One comes back, the other"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "doesn't. Then you had the whole footage"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "from the when the cops pulled them over."}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "So, it added more drama. It just"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "it had it all. Yeah. And you had, I"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "mean, as a as a storyteller, as a a"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "journalist, you had immediately all of"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "their videos when they were missing. So,"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "you could tell their story and people"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "saw them and became like obsessed"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "because, you know, sometimes you'll"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "cover a missing case and it's like, you"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "know, the family will give you three"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "photos, three still photos and it's like"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "you got to make people care. And I think"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "that, you know, it was like we were"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "handed this whole envelope of, you know,"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "they had a great YouTube videos. Um, so"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "people became very very invested. Did"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "you get"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "trying to think like how how long was"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "the process again from you first getting"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "on the ground to"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "they find Brian Laundryy's body, not"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "hers. They found his."}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "So maybe a month. Okay."}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. And again, at first we"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "thought he was in the house, which was"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "the reason I was camping out because we"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "didn't know was an arrest going to go"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "down at any time, was she going to show"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "up? You know, my first thought when I"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "got there was that maybe this was like"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "some kind of social media hoax. Like,"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "were they somehow doing this for That"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "was honestly my before I knew anything."}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "I'm like, are they kind of doing this"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "for attention? Like, and she's going to"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "I that was just what I first thought"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "before I knew anything. Um, so we were"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "just waiting there and assumed that he"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "was in the house and then realized"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "something really shady was going on"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "because they would never come out and"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "his family would never talk, which was"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "just kind of weird. like you're"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "essentially your daughter-in-law is"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "missing and you're held up in the house"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "like hiding out."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "Um and then and then he went missing."}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "And somehow, you know, mysteriously"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "disappeared from inside the house. And"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "and you didn't see you had no inkling of"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "No idea. And the police didn't either."}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "And they were and one day they were just"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "like we now don't that that you talk"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "about why it was such a big story. So"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "all of it was big. And then all of a"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "sudden they come out one day when"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "everybody thinks he's been in the house"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "and they say, \"And now we don't know"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "where Brian Laundry is. We've lost track"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "of him. He's not in the house anymore.\""}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "It was like, \"Oh my god.\""}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "And his parents weren't cooperating at"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "all, which was"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "that was so strange to watch. It's ve it"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "is impossible to put yourself in the"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "shoes of you know someone who raised"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "someone for 20ome years and then is"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "maybe in denial about what he did and is"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "trying to protect their kid but at the"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "same time you have another missing human"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "being here it's like morally"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "you should probably help out that's fair"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "to say but they were so"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "I mean I would from the outside I'd"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "describe it as they were stonewalling it"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "well and we would later find out you"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "know I mean I've been working on this"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "now for years, but you know through"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "depositions and stuff that they had"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "hired a criminal lawyer in Idaho where"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "you know and they there was a lot going"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "on behind the scenes but at that time"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "just back to what I was saying like you"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "know I started following them cuz it was"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "just it was hard to not go all in like"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "just want to know well where are they"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "going what's happening are they going to"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "visit Brian like what where you know"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "did they catch you following them in the"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "car"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "I'm pretty sure they knew um and you"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "know, I think the FBI was there was"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "always like a few of us following, you"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "know, like"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "um so it wasn't just me like there, you"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "know,"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "like waving to the"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "but but again there was just this moment"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "and when you went back to like kind of"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "where you draw the line and ethics like"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "I remember thinking like what is the"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "line here like should I be follow and"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "you know you get personally obsessed"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "with something in a case and uh I just"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "remember saying to Louise like that my"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "photographer like where should we keep"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "doing this like you know And I remember"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "like even my bosses didn't know we were"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "doing it. Sometimes we would just like"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "do it, you know?"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "Yeah, that was another question. It's"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "like what how much do they know about"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "your not even minuteto minute obviously"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "as you just pointed out, but like"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "daytoday like what your strategy was?"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "Are you on the phone with producers at"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "News Nation? Like here's what I'm"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "thinking about doing today and"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "and News Nation had just started. So,"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "you know, we're a new um a new news"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "organization even still, but this was"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "the very beginning. So, we we are"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "startup. we're still a startup, but even"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "then it was like, you know how a startup"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "is, we're already kind of like working"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "everything out."}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "Um, and at that point, now News Nation"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "does like, you know, we're on TV 24"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "hours a day pretty much with news. But"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "back then, we were only doing 2, three"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "hours a night cuz we had just started."}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "Uh, and they would run like Blue Bloods"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "and all these old shows during the day."}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "So, it gave me a lot more time, too, to"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "kind of like do those sort of, you know,"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "I had follow them for hours and like I"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "didn't have to be on TV until at night."}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "So, so I would tell they they kind of"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "knew, but I think something in me was"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "kind of pushing the"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "pushing the limit a little bit during"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "that, I think. But, you know, I"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "I don't think you can be good at the job"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "if you if you're constantly worried"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "about like rules and stuff."}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "You had said a little bit ago that there"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "were times earlier in your career where"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "in hindsight you felt like you had"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "crossed the line. What do you have"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "examples of that and why you think it"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "was across the line afterwards?"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "yeah. I'm trying to think of a few. I"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "mean, I don't want to jump around too"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "much. I guess we'll talk about Brian"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "Coberger later, but"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "yeah, we will."}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "You know,"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "I've I've regretted some things like I"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "snuck into his parents' neighborhood."}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "Um, Oh, wow."}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "which was like a gated neighborhood and"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "I got a lot of heat for that. Like"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "people who felt bad for his parents. Um,"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "and uh, you know, it's just when you're"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "when you're in the zone of a story and"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "it's so hot and it's so raw in that"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "moment and you're like when we look back"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "and talk about these things, it's like"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "chill, you know? But like when you're in"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "something that's that big in that moment"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "and you're that invested and you're not"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "sleeping and you're putting your all"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "into the story,"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "like sometimes you just maybe push a"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "little too hard."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "Is the mentality when you're doing this,"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "I don't even know if you know this when"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "you're in it, but it I guess answer this"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "as best you can. Is the mentality when"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "you're doing this leaning more towards"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "reporting the news and reporting the"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "story or actually because you are doing"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "that also like kind of being an"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "investigator and solving it and helping"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "the investigation itself with the"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "professionals?"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "I think it's mostly reporting the story."}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "Um because you know I don't want to ever"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "interfere with like I said I don't think"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "I've ever done anything hopefully to"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "really interfere with a police"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "investigation. And that's never been an"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "issue for me cuz I don't I don't ever"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "want to do that. So mostly it's just"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "reporting but but along the way"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "like when these things are unsolved of"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "course you're you know you're thinking"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "like sometimes you find things I even"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "like with Gabby Patito it was just a"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "regular person who had some video that"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "they found on their"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "uh dash cam. You know what I mean? Like"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "you can find things along the way but I"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "try not to go into it like I want to be"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "a reporter number one you know and just"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "bring information to people. Did you"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "have on the Petito case, going back to"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "that, did you have, you know, towards"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "the beginning of you being camped out"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "and, you know, trying to uncover"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "information, was law enforcement asking"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "you questions about, hey, have you seen"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "this or seen that? Like to try to help"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "with the investigation"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "a little bit. They were really um I"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "mean, they were under a lot of pressure"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "and they were a lot of people were um"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "calling them out at that. I mean, they"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "weren't, you know, the public was not"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "happy with law enforcement during all of"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "that, obviously. And then when he snuck"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "out of the house and they didn't know,"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "people thought it was just like a dog"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "and pony show. So, they were very"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "careful with what they would say. Um,"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "I remember"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "when I was telling you about how I how I"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "saw the So, I saw them putting up the"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "the secret cameras in the backyard"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "um of Ryan's house and like he had a"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "neighbor behind his house where they put"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "the cameras up in the trees. So, I"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "remember I went over to that neighbor"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "and I was like, \"Hey, like I saw them"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "doing that.\" And he took me in the back"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "and was like, \"Yeah, here are the"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "cameras and here's like their they had"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "like a whole little antenna system"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "beaming the video back to their police"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "station and everything.\" So, I remember"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "I told the one of the police like"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "sergeants, like one of the higher-ups"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "that I was dealing with as a member of"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "the media."}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "I told them at one point that I had seen"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "that and that I knew where they were."}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "And I actually interviewed the neighbor"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "and got video of the cameras cuz that's"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "kind of my other thing like you might as"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "well you don't have to use it and I"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "didn't use it but like you when it's all"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "over one day, you know, I still wanted"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "to document what I was getting in real"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "time."}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "And I remember telling them that and"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "kind of like trying to show them that"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "they could trust me cuz they probably"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "thought I was this crazy guy like"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "camping, you know, but it was like,"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "listen, just so you know, like I have"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "this and I would never"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "like I would never put this out. So just"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "trying to build like trust in that way,"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "you know, and I' I've had other"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "situations like that in other cases with"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "cops where I'll come across something"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "and it's like clearly they wouldn't want"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "this out. So, and sometimes I'll let"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "them know that I have it just to kind of"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "show like this could be an incredible I"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "mean if I had put the story out in that"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "moment with the c secret cameras like"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "you said, talk about clicks, talk about"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "views."}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "But it's like I'm not going to do"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "something"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "a I've gotten to know the families and I"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "want justice and I want them to find"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "their daughter and then also like I'm"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "not going to do something where I can't"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "sleep well at night and you know I would"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "feel bad about that. You know it's not"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "worth like one viral poster, one big"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "story on News Nation, you know."}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "I I I agree. I you have to you have to"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "tow that line. Like we were saying a"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "little earlier. It's it's a tough line"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "to tow sometimes because like you have a"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "job to do."}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "Yeah. But I think people don't want to"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "see that like let's say people in the"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "media are like in cahoots with law"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "enforcement all times. Yeah. But I think"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "there's a really especially when it's"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "you know someone's missing or there's a"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "life at stake there there's a there's an"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "appropriate middle ground there to where"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "you at least say hey I got my job you"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "got your job but if there's something"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "that can interfere with each other's"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "jobs that is not in the public interest"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "we can make that call together. Right."}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "So, like you said, that probably helps"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "in other investigations that you're then"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "involved with where they're like, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "we know this guy is not going to just"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "like run his mouth every time he picks"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "something up.\" And, you know, that's"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "important for you to be able to actually"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "get sources and do your job."}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "Yeah. And for them, I mean, solving the"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "case is ultimately the,"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "you know, the end goal. Yeah. I mean, me"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "doing a story, if that's going to"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "impact that,"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "it's just not worth it in that moment."}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "But at the same time, like you're not"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "going to let law enforcement start"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "bossing you around."}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "And a lot of them will call it now, oh,"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "our media partners. And that always I"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "always thought that was a little weird."}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "Like we're not we're not your partner."}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "Like"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "we're you know, we can help each other."}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "You can we can help you get the word out"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "about things and but"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "you know it's it's a weird it's"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "definitely"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "changes depending on the story and sort"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "of what's happening. And it's strange"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "because you have to make gut calls a"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "lot. I mean, that's pretty much what it"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "is."}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "And you mentioned like calling your rep"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "your producers and bosses, but like a"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "lot of times you're the one there. Like"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "you really have to make the call. Like"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "you're the one who's seeing what's"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "happening and who knows the players. So"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "like you can't really rely on your boss"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "all the time"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "and your boss being removed and wanting"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "the story and stuff. They're going to be"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "a little more, let's say, biased towards"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "you reporting things. That's just the"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "nature of the business. So, you have to"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "be able to say, well,"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "am I shooting my load for just this one"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "story and I'm going to [ __ ] myself in"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "the future or am is in the best interest"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "for me to hold on to this and document"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "it later."}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "And sometimes you just don't even tell"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "anybody or your body. Like that's the"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "thing like with a photographer"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "photographer and producer you're out"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "with like you guys have a tight"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "usually a tight um relationship"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "especially the good ones because it's"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "like there are things that you're like"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "listen let's not even let's just"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "keep this between us for now because you"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "know cuz like you said other people will"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "get that oh we got it but oh my god"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "let's get it out you know and it's like"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "then you're the one who looks like a"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "jerk."}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "Thank you guys for checking out this"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "clip. If you haven't already subscribed"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "please subscribe and hit the like button"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "on this video. It is a huge huge help."}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "And if you'd like to check out this"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "clip's full podcast episode, that link"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "is in the description below or right"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "here. And finally, you can follow me on"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "Instagram and X by using the links in my"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "description below."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "because I was just I was seeing"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "everything up close. Like the the police"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "had put these hidden cameras up in the"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "trees behind Brianrey's parents' house"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "to keep an eye on the"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "You have, like I said, covered pretty"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "much all the major crime stories since"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "2021. We'll also talk about all the"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "other types of stories you're covering."}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "It seems like just whenever goes down,"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "they're sending you somewhere."}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. It started like you said"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "with the Gabby Patito um and uh that was"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "obviously a big story that people got"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "really invested in. I went I went to"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "Northport, Florida, which is where she"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "left with Brian Laundry, you know, in"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "the van to go on the cross country trip."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "He showed back up with the van and I was"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "one of the first reporters over there,"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "which I think is why, you know, people"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "started following me and um it was weird"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "because, you know, the police didn't"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "really like us being there. Uh, and"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "there was no there was no sidewalk"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "outside Brianrey's house where we could"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "set up. So, they kicked everybody off"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "the street. Uh, and there was no real"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "way to keep an eye on his house to see"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "if he was going to come back or if Gabby"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "Patito was going to come back. So, I"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "rented the lawn from the neighbor, like"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "made this agreement with the neighbor to"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "pay him and his wife so that I could"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "camp out on their lawn. Um,"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "now how do you go about you just walk up"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "to the front door and say, \"I got an"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "offer for you.\""}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "So, I had kind of become friendly with"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "like I'm just like a friendly guy. Like"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "when I go to these scenes like I always"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "that's just my nature like to just kind"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "of like I always make friends with the"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "neighbors and like I'm just talkative,"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "you know, and you also have a lot of"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "time to kill at these scenes, you know,"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "like you're waiting for things to"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "happen. So, I'm chatty, you know."}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "So, I had already become friends with"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "them and they had like two adorable pugs"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "and I love dogs. So, I'd always like go"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "out and see their dogs and everything"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "when I was just stationed on the"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "sidewalk. But then when they kicked us"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "all out, I'm like, \"What are we going to"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "do?\" Cuz everybody was going live from"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "the police station and I'm like, \"I"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "can't leave this house. Like something's"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "about to go down.\" Um, so anyway, I just"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "said to them and I felt bad at first. I"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "was just going to like see if they would"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "do it for free, but you know, I was"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "like, we were it was me and my"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "photographer and a producer. Like we"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "were going to kill their grass and stuff"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "and it was kind of annoying for them, I"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "think. So I was like, \"Hey, we'll we'll"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "pay you.\" I forget what we paid them."}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "Maybe it was cash. Maybe like I want to"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "say maybe like 300 a week. I ended up"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "being there for like six weeks."}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "Is that out of your own pocket or are"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "you calling up news?"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "No, I think we got I don't know how we"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "expensed it. Like somehow we found a way"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "to expense it. Um but uh so and they had"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "like and they were both like hardworking"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "people. They would leave early in the"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "morning and they had like I remember"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "they had this little like duck statue by"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "the front door and we would just put the"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "money under the the duck."}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "Oh, this is old school, bro."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "Yeah. Yeah, it was old school. And uh"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "and then it was it was incredible"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "because everybody else had to leave and"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "we had our spot and it was right next to"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "Brian Laundry, you know, Gabby Patito's"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "the the the boyfriend who who killed"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "her. It was right next to his parents"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "house. So like we would we were right"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "basically in there. We would go right to"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "the line of their yard and just we had a"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "tent and we would just stay there."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "Oh, you had a tent on the floor. You're"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "like Dirty Mike and the boys."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "Yeah. And because we had all our"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "equipment and stuff, you know, and it"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "was it was I mean it was rainy, swampy"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "in Florida that time of year. And uh I"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "think it made his parents crazy because"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "it was like there was nothing they could"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "do. We were right there and we saw"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "everything when the FBI came and raided"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "the everything. We were like we were"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "there and we were on our own little we"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "had our own spot that we were paying"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "for. So like they couldn't do anything."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "What was the what is the legality there?"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "Cuz like you said, they didn't have a"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "sidewalk. So it was a little strange cuz"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "I remember it. You know, you'd see this"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "video and there'd be people out on the"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "streets, but you just mentioned like"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "other people were forced to leave, but"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "you were able to stay because you had"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "permission to be on someone else's lawn."}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "Correct. So,"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "how like from a first amendment and"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "maybe fourth amendment perspective, I'm"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "sorry if I'm getting too technical, but"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "what is the legality of police saying"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "you can't be on the street itself?"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "So, listen, this is like a as a"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "reporter, especially when I was in"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "local, I mean, you're you're battling"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "this every day. People, you're always"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "getting kicked out of places. Um, I"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "mean, usually if you're on a public"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "sidewalk, there's nothing anybody can"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "do. Um, period. Like, you can stay on"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "the sidewalk as long as you want. But"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "that was the problem is there wasn't a"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "sidewalk. It was like this weird Florida"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "neighborhood where um, it was just a"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "road and then there were there were like"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "these two little like kind of like"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "little canal, not really canals, but"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "little ditches for the like the water"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "drainage ditches on each side of the"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "road and then the driveway. So there was"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "nowhere to legally I mean and they can"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "say you're blocking traffic, you know,"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "they can get you off the road basically,"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "which is what they did. And there was"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "nowhere to park, which which also when"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "we were paying the neighbors, they would"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "let us that was also a big thing. They'd"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "let us park in their driveway."}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "Um but when you're in this tent, the"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "cops weren't like doing in a tent."}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "Oh, they were annoy. I mean, we we beat"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "the system."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "So they're going up to the neighbors"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "like, \"Do they have permission to be"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "here?\" And they're like, \"Yes,"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "yes.\" And like I I mean, I had eyes on"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "everything in that spot. I mean, I they"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "were must have been so annoyed and"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "especially therries, too. But the police"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "I mean, I I saw so many things during"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "that month and a half that I didn't"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "report because I was just I was seeing"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "everything up close. Like the the police"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "had put these hidden cameras up in the"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "trees behind Brianrey's parents' house"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "to keep an eye on the back because they"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "thought when he did come back, they"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "thought he was going to sneak out. And I"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "saw a lot of that stuff happen. never"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "reported it just because I wasn't I mean"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "why would I go on TV and say that I"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "didn't want to ruin their investigation."}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "I but but there was just the spot yeah"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "because then then he would have known"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "and you know but the spot that I was in"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "it was just I I knew everything and I"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "never left. I mean I would just stay"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "there all the time. Now, that's"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "interesting though because that also is"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "like a fine line of doing your job and"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "also like trying to protect the"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "integrity of the most important thing"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "here, which is that an investigation is"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "able to happen and people are brought to"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "justice or, you know, at the time she"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "was found."}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "Correct."}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "You know, cuz they didn't even know"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "where she was for a while or didn't"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "weren't sure if she was dead. Did you"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "know that one in eight Americans are"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "currently prescribed anti-anxiety"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "medications? It is a quiet epidemic that"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "is sweeping the west right now and"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "people who start on these medications"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "have a very hard time quitting."}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "Recovering from bzzoiaine addiction or"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "alcohol addiction is essentially like"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "recovering from brain damage. But what"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "if I told you that a legal mushroom that"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "has been weirdly embedded into our"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "culture is helping people to finally get"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "off these gabaurgic substances. I'm"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "talking about ammonita muscaria, the"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "little red top mushroom with the white"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "dots that's depicted in Alice in"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "Wonderland and Mario. This is a legal"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "mushroom to buy, possess, and sell in"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "every state except Louisiana. And"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "thousands of people are using it to get"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "off benzoipines and alcohol. This"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "mushroom isn't only for people looking"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "to quit their anti-anxiety medications."}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "People are tapping into its power as a"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "natural neutropic for focus during"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "studies and work, a non-addictive"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "alcohol replacement at parties, a dream"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "enhancing tool for vivid nights, and"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "even a gentle aid for pain recovery."}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "Amanita can do a lot more than help you"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "quit gaba urgics and it's been hiding in"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "plain sight this whole time. For years,"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "there was a massive gap in the market"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "where nobody in the United States was"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "reliably importing this mushroom. That's"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "where Minnesota Nice comes in. Providing"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "you with the highest quality raw"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "ammonita and consumer ready ammonita"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "products at a price that you can afford."}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "So use Minnesota to help find your"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "harmony today and go to"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "www.mniceno.com/julian."}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "That link is in my description below and"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "use code JD22 for 22% off your first"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "order. That's www.mn"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "niceethno.com/julian"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "link in description below and use code"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "JD22 for 22% off. Much love. But what"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "you know what's that like when you"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "like you said it's it's a long time"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "where you're basically boring and doing"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "nothing and then boom something happens"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "and you have it and this is a story"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "everyone's watching around the country"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "and you can go right now in front of"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "your camera and report it and get a lot"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "of eyeballs on you a lot of eyeballs on"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "your network make yourself some personal"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "brand cash if you know what I mean."}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "Yeah. and you decide on certain things"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "the public should not have this because"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "it could impede the investigation. What"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "is that decision like? Because I imagine"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "you almost have to think about that if"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "you're if you have integrity like you on"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "almost everything."}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "100%. Yeah. I mean I think you have to"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "make those decisions in the moment."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "That's where like this whole, you know,"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "like I was really I still am into really"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "into Twitter X, but I was into it during"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "Gabby Patito big guy. It went from like"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "I think when I started the Gabby Patito"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "story I had 30,000 followers and I mean"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "I had like hund within like a month I"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "was growing like hundreds of thousands"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "per month you know"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "you were number one trending on Twitter"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "for like 3 weeks"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "so there was this feeling of like people"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "were there was so much interest in"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "wanting to get the information out fast"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "but also like taking a second to think"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "about the investigation about you know"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "by that point I was starting to get to"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "know Gabby's parents and this I mean"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "this was a real this wasn't just like a"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "video game or reason for me to get"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "popular"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "there was like real going on, you know?"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "So, I think that's where like kind of"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "the old school, you know, I had grown up"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "going, you know, I started in a really"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "small market, worked my way up for 10,"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "15 years, you know, I had like ethics"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "from doing the job in local news,"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "learning from different people who I"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "looked up to. So, it wasn't just about"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "like clicks. Um, but there was this just"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "like hunger for information and at the"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "same time, you wanted to feed that."}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "Yeah. Um, but yeah, you I think you just"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "have to make the decisions and it's it's"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "not easy like like even camping out in"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "the yard. I mean, what journalist does"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "that? Like I think sometimes I've"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "crossed the line. There's things other"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "things I can think of and that I don't"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "think I crossed the line there, but um"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "you know I I got obsessed with with it."}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "Like I started following so I was since"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "I was camping out there I would see"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "every time the parents would leave and"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "this was when Gabby was missing. So I"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "started following them. Um, which"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "walking or car?"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "No, by car. And that's where like I"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "started I was with Luis who was my like"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "a long time really good friend in"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "photog. And like I think we started you"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "I remember telling Louise like what is"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "the boundary here for us like are I"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "don't want to be paparazzi"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "like but and we would follow them around"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "and then I started live streaming"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "sometimes when I was following them"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "because I wasn't sure where they were"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "going. And this you have to in the"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "moment like no one knew where Gabby was."}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "Then Brian Laundry went missing out of"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "the house. I don't know if you remember"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "that like he disappeared."}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "Brian actually if you don't mind before"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "we go into all this just for people who"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "don't remember the case or didn't see"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "the Netflix documentary that came out I"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "believe the end of last year. Can you"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "just give the the outline of"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "what happened at the beginning and what"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "the nature of it was for them?"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "Yeah. So Gabby Patito, this beautiful"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "young woman, um was with this guy named"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "Brian Laundry, and they uh they they"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "built a van together. Van life is really"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "big. It's still really big if you go to"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "like Utah, Idaho. Um"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "so they put together this van that they"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "were going to live in and travel across"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "the country. She was an upcoming uh"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "social media influencer, so she was"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "making videos, beautiful, you know,"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "YouTube videos and and Instagram and"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "drone and Yeah, there you go. There's"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "the van. Um and so basically, you know,"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "they they started on this trip across"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "the country and things go south. Um, you"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "know, we would later learn he was"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "abusive and didn't like that she was,"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "you know, sort of"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "trying to build this business of, you"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "know, van life and and social media and"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "he ended up killing her um in the Grand"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "Teton National Park and but but it was"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "just a massive story because she was"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "missing for so long and then he went"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "missing and it I mean I don't think I've"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "maybe Brian Coberger was as big but"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "there's not a lot of stories that come"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "along like that where I think like"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "everybody was sort of fascinated and"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "dialed into it."}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "Yeah, it was it kind of had every"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "possible theme you'd look for in your"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "Shakespearean tragedy."}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "Yeah. And not to make it not what it"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "was, which was real life, but you know,"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "that's also something we could talk"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "about in a little bit with what the"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "public reaction was to it and then how"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "people assess that afterwards because,"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "you know, the reality is unfortunately"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "there are a lot of incidents in this"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "country that happen every day where"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "someone goes missing or someone's abused"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "by, you know, their husband or something"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "and ends up dead and is never found. and"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "a lot of cases don't get the coverage."}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "This one got the coverage and I I get"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "But I think I think the documentary also"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "did a really good job, the one on"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "Netflix of like kind of"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "post the whole situation wrestling with"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "the why do we have a fascination with"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "certain ones versus other ones. Thank"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "you guys for checking out this clip. If"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "you haven't already subscribed, please"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "subscribe and hit the like button on"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "this video. It is a huge, huge help. And"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "if you'd like to check out this clip's"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "full podcast episode, that link is in"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "the description below or right here. And"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "finally, you can follow me on Instagram"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "and X by using the links in my"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "description below."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:01", "text": "Khaled was bin Laden's son. We're"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "literally standing on the second floor."}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "There's a set of stairs that go up to a"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "landing and up. A little head pops down"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "looking at us. Did he hear you guys? He"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "had to have ride. Anybody inside the"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "house? Had plenty of time to wake up."}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "They heard helicopters hovering."}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "Helicopters crash. They'd heard muffled"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "gunfire, some explosions. Is it true"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "that somebody yelled to a lead in"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "Arabic? He came out and then was popped."}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "Didn't yell, whispered."}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "It's the sexiest move I ever saw in the"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "SEAL teams. You're on the second floor."}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "You see a head peek down the wall. look"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "down at us, try to see who's down there."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "Couldn't tell, right? It's pitch black."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "We're quiet. We're not, hey, it's"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "America. And he literally whispers"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "Khaled's name. Khaled. Khaled had heard"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "gunfire, all this stuff. Then he hears"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "somebody whispering his name. Peaks"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "around the corner, gets popped in the"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "head. Polish."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "I hear a lot about the multiverse. They"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "believe that there are multiple"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "universes out there and they've actually"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "found the edge of our universe. Not only"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "did they find the edge of our universe,"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "but they also found what seems to be a"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "merging part or the beginning part of"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "another universe overlapping slightly."}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "This is pretty interesting because now"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "it proves like, wait a minute, there is"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "a multiverse. We're not the only one."}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "So, what happens if the other side of a"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "black hole? Could it be a white hole?"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "So, as energy is being sucked out of one"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "universe, is it going in and creating"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "another universe from scratch? Is that"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "the big bang? I do believe that we're"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "living in a soup of universes. Like,"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "we're just one of many universes."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "There's a doppelganger potentially of"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "you in a lot of these universes. So in"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "some universes, you're not sitting here"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "talking to me because this is not even"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "your career."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:01", "text": "Travis Haley, you're a force"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "reconnaissance marine combat"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "entrepreneur and an eighth generation"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "gunfighter. You're a prominent figure in"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "the defense and firearms industry known"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "for your extensive military service and"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "contributions to the tactical training"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "and product development. You established"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "a strategic partners which focuses on"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "designing cutting edge tactical"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "equipment and offering a science-based"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "training program. and you're a pro"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "snowboarder, base jumper, windsuit"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "pilot, rock climber, and the list just"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "goes on. But, uh, you're such a good"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "human being. The world will be a better"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "place if we all just cared a little bit"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "24 people out of the entire world on the"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "raid that takes out world's most wanted"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "man. Third floor point man in front of"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "me again. Same guy whispered clean. He"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "head pops out the door at the top. Point"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "man takes a couple shots and the head"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "disappears into the room. Cleared to the"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "door of the room. Looked in and he's"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "basically twitching at the foot of his"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "bed."}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "So is he still alive or is it just"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "nerves?"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "Pretty twitchy. Say he's done. Head"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "shot. We didn't want to shoot him in the"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "face. Nobody wanted to. We wanted the"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "photo. Now he's laying at the foot of"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "his bed. Same point man grabs the two"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "chicks and pushes them back against the"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "far wall. Did you shoot Bin Laden"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "on the ground? Yes."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "How many times?"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "Couple."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "How did that feel?"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "Don't tell me like I'm just doing the"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "job. [ __ ] No sense of"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "accomplishment, retribution. This guy"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "a long way to get home still. We've got"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "one hilo down. Let's think big picture"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "here."}]

[{"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "Matt Bisinette, welcome to the show, man. Thanks, man. It's It's been a minute. Glad to be here."}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "Yeah, it has been a minute. But, uh, man, I just first off, I just want to"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "say thank you for coming down here. I know this was a a big big big decision"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "for you. You've never revealed your identity before. This is the first time it's on and that includes 60 Minutes and"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "a lot of a lot of big publications that that that wanted your story and"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "especially about, you know, the Bin Laden raid and all that stuff. So, like I said, I know this was a was a major"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "decision for you and I just want to say I'm honored to be able to to be the one to bring it out. So, thank you."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "I'm only doing it here. So, so I appreciate it. It's it's it's it's my honor. So, so"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "what are we here to talk about today? We're here to talk about you got a new book coming out and we're going to talk"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "about, you know, how the DoD basically went after you unjustly for the previous"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "book, No Easy Day, written by Mark Owen. But um but uh so we're going to talk all"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "about that. Some of the names of the people that were involved and and going after you from, you know, coming out of"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "the darkness and trying to [ __ ] you over and and uh you know, I just want to say these are my favorite interviews to do."}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "I I as much as I hate what happened to you, we've done we've done this with"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "Brad Giri. We've done this with the Blackwater guys. We did this with a Canadian sniper that held the world"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "record. uh for the longest sniper shot. He was on the team. Who else have we done this for? Our mutual attorney, our"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "our best buddy here, Tim Parloratori's going to be making an appearance. Who else have we done this for? Tim."}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "Eddie Eddie Gallagher. Eddie Gallagher. Jay Cal. Jay Cal. So, these are these are my"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "favorite ones to do. was somebody with an amazing life story who's dedicated their entire [ __ ] life to"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "government service and now the government's trying to [ __ ] you over and we get to name the names of the people"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "that are doing it and make them and their entire [ __ ] bloodline ashamed"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "to ever have been associated with these pieces of [ __ ] It's my favorite thing to do. They just want to make them."}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "It's a crazy hate going in public because because So anyways, everybody starts off with an"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "introduction. See, I'm excited about this [ __ ] man. Matt Besette,"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "former Navy Seal who served with Seal Team Six and was part of the historic raid that took down Osama bin Laden."}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "Author of the best-selling book No Easy Day under the pseudo name Mark Owen,"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "giving the world an insiders look at the mission that took Bin Laden down. stepping into the spotlight with your"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "new book, No Easy Way, and your YouTube channel, sharing unfiltered stories from"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "your life and career. Consultant and executive producer for the CBS show Seal"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "Team Faced legal battles with the government over your writing, but you're"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "still pushing forward with your message of resilience, family, and faith. You're a husband, a father, and most"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "importantly, a Christian. So once again, welcome to the show. And Matt, you've"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "stayed under the radar for how many years has it been now? 12. 12 years. Staying under the radar for 12"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "years. Never revealed your identity, your face, your name, nothing. Why? Why now?"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "Why now? Um, well, as you know, I I called you to talk about my next book"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "and and possibly coming on here to to talk about that book. And through that discussion,"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "um, we had a real honest discussion and and you asked me some straightforward questions like why why why are why are"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "you still doing this? You've done it for 10 12 years. Um, why not? And so uh"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "through that through the discussion with you, I thought about it, prayed about it and uh and said, \"Hey, may maybe it is"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "time, right? It's been 12 years. I've I've fought this battle that I've been in very very"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "privately and very quietly to the best of my ability and and it's got me to this point and and the point was where I"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "had to write the no easy way to to tell this story and um and so to then get"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "this story out there and actually make sure people heard this the true story and and how I was treated um"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "this this is part of that journey. So where where is uh No Easy Way? Where are we in the in the process of"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "No easy way book was submitted for government review, right? You have to submit that one for government review."}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "Yes, absolutely. Any any book anybody who's signed a uh top secret clearance"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "has to get any and all works reviewed. Uh now is that enforced across the"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "board? Absolutely not. They just go after who they want to. But yeah. Didn't mraven just do a special on this on Netflix or something? Admiral"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "McCraven started on McCraven. Didn't he just Yeah. I mean, that's way bigger. That's a Netflix thing, right?"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "Sure. He doesn't have to do it. Yeah. There's a double standard here for He doesn't have to do [ __ ] like that."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "But um So, hold on though. Why do you have to"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "write Why do you have to get the next book approved by the government? Are you talking about tactics? And it it is a long story, my friend. Um,"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "and it's I'm I'm telling the story of what the government did to me over my first book, No Easy Deal."}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "Oh, you have to get approval to tell the story on how the government [ __ ] you over on your first book."}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "Yes. And and and it's been and it's been 6 months and it hasn't been approved yet. They won't they won't approve it. I've"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "heard nothing. They keep slow rolling me which to which to me means right the the DoD swamp right that's there wants to"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "crush my story doesn't want it out and so again that's part of the reason I'm coming on sitting down with you here is"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "to start telling the story and maybe shake the tree so people hear a little bit about of what what these people did"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "do to me. Jeez. Well, like I said, I'm excited to do this. So,"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "um, so what I'd like to do is I'd like to do a life story on you starting from childhood through your SEAL team careers"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "into development group and then you know the book and everything that happened. I know there's a lot Well, it's it's"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "basically two interviews in one uh because of of of the [ __ ] you're dealing with now. But um but before we get"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "going, I got a couple of things to knock out for you. So, I got you some gifts, Mad. Here you go. Everybody gets those."}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "very excited about these. I've got a lot of people asking for these. If I got some today, they wanted me to bring and"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "share with them. So, thank you. We'll load you up. And then every once in a while, we give one of these out on"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "the show. So, I got a buddy over at SIG."}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "His name's Jason. Got a good buddy over at Sig. Yeah, he's Man, he was really excited"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "about this interview. So, I thought it would be a good idea to to present you with one of those. So"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "that's the Sig Sau365 Legion."}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "You like that? Do you already have one? Yes, of course. Son of a [ __ ] Well, now you got two. But the Legion,"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "one for each of you is my favorite. The Legion's the the Ducks nuts. So,"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "thank you. You're welcome. You're welcome. And wait, wait, I got something for you. Okay. Um, Eagles and Angels. You ever"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "heard of the brand Star former Delta buddy of mine? Uh, right. He uses our"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "old camouflage. We donated a uniform. He cuts them out. Uh, I had these made with a godly trust because I knew you were a"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "fan. And uh, these are awesome. Thank"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "you. Love it. These will go in the studio. Thank you."}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "This is your uniform, right? Yep. Right on. It's pretty cool. Right. They do different operators and they they you"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "know borrow a set of camies, they cut them up and then they they sell them and it's kind of cool"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "collector's items. Very cool. Thank you. Thank you."}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "And then um all right, one last thing. So I got a Patreon account. We've turned it into"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "one hell of a community. They have supported me since the very beginning and they're the real reason that we even"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "get to sit down and have this discussion today. So I offer them the opportunity to ask each and every guest a question."}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "This is from Matt Stockton. How do you keep your faith with so much opposition? And how did you find so much"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "solid solidarity after war fighting?"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "What's the first part again? How do I keep my faith? How do you keep your faith with so much opposition? And how do you find so much"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "solidarity after war fighting? I would say I keep my my faith is easier"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "to keep when I've been in the trenches, when I've been in the fight because it's much more I'm in the fight and I need to"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "remember, right? Where I've had my biggest struggles is where I'm not in the fight and it seems kind of quiet and"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "there's not a lot of stuff going on. And that's that's where I've struggled. So"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "in the most emotional experiences or when we dealt with a lot of death in the teams or"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "whatever it was that was where I was able to understand that my faith and there there's a plan right um dealing"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "with the government stuff I was in a very very dark negative place getting out of the teams I mean"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "I was in a very dark place after the way the government was treating me and uh"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "and and I guess I realized that Um,"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "it's the anytime you're challenged in your face, it's God testing you. That's the way I looked at it, right? Was maybe"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "God just challenged me through the whole thing that I've been through with the government to see if I was going to turn into a little [ __ ] or not."}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "Yeah. Right. Was I going to was I going to man up and deal with this the right way or was I going to fold, melt, and and and"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "and become somebody I wasn't proud of? And so, right on, man. Well, you definitely"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "didn't fold. So, it's been a long fight, man. It's been a long fight. I'm still in it. I I've got"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "I've got Yeah, I'm still in it. I I got a payment plan for the next 15 years."}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "Let's tell me about that. So, give me a brief snapshot of what happened."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "Um, okay. We're jumping all over here. You want to jump in where the book? We're going to we're going to go just a"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "brief snapshot of what what you're going through. Let's say 90 seconds or less. And then we'll we'll cover that in"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "detail when we get to it. I've been I've been fighting my own government for 12 years. Basically,"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "you wrote a book on the line. I wrote No Easy Day, right? The government immediately came after me for writing that book without a"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "pre-publication review process being done. They they came after me legally with unlimited attorneys for a whole bunch of"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "time. Uh ultimately, they said, \"Hey, look, there's nothing classified in the book. We just want all the book money back.\""}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "Well, I had spent a million and a half of that book money on my lawyer fees defending myself against these baseless"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "accusations. And in the end, the government said, \"We want it all back.\" So I gave them all the money book, the"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "the the book money that I had left, and they said, \"Look, you're you're still missing 1.5. We want that back, too.\" So"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "I sued my attorney. I won. Went back to the government with a winning malpractice case saying, \"Hey, I'm"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "relied on the advice of counsel to publish my book without a review. I know the government didn't want to look at"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "this, but I sued my attorney and won. Will you relook at this case?\" They said, \"No.\" I said, 'Well, I can't pay"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "you a million and a half in three years. Give me some sort of payment plan. And so, they said, ' Give us all the money"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "your malpractice suit made, your winning malpractice suit.' And then they put me on a payment plan. So, I pay $3,800 a"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "month for the next 15 years. They said, \"If I miss one payment, they'll charge me back taxes and come after me again. I"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "only served for 14 years, right? I served for 14 years. I got a plaque with my name misspelled when I got out,"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "right? one one T and Matt, but yet they they want me to to pay back more money"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "than I ever would have made in my service for longer than I ever served. I only served for 14. I got a 15-year"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "payment plan. So that that and the story behind that is what what I wrote about"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "in no easy way. That's the story that the government's trying to slow roll in the review process right now. And it's"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "the reason that I'm sitting here with you now is so I can start sharing this story a little bit more publicly. I've been very private about it. I've just"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "tried to duke it out with them the the best way I could through the legal system and it's got me to here."}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "Holy [ __ ] So, here we are. Matt, we got to talk about how to set up a better straw man. Mark Owen."}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "Yeah, the Mark. Easy to find. The the Mark Owen name didn't last more than two seconds. And it was actually uh"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "it was a Fox News producer, like one of their online producers who actually ran"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "my real name. Are you [ __ ] kidding me? Fox News. Never would have guessed that, but okay."}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "It was an online producer. So, right, it's pretty easy to find people's home addresses online these days, right? It's"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "pretty easy. Figure that out. So, I' I've got some friends that uh they set up a whole bunch of online"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "personas if somebody's trying to find me and and all of the home addresses that are"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "linked to my fake accounts are all that Fox News producers home address."}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "Oh, that's [ __ ] genius. Nice work."}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "Nice work. I do I do one other question before we get in the life story. Why did"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "you I mean another famous seals come out you know"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "about this raid Rob O'Neal everybody knows. I'm just curious why did why did"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "you decide to conceal yourself when you came out when you wrote the"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "book when you did I mean 60 Minutes did a piece on you. They did it. I mean, probably a better disguise than you've"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "ever seen throughout your entire [ __ ] career. Definitely throughout my career, I've never seen a disguise that that"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "well done. I mean, it was like Hollywood production. It was it was wild."}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "It was Hollywood level makeup people that came out and did it. Uh, but to answer your question,"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "a I was a kid who I grew up reading books. I grew up reading books about the community. That's why I wanted to join."}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "I read books about the seals in Vietnam. Mhm. Boom. Um, had my had my right my"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "service. Um, I knew I knew the president had authorized the movies and the books,"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "right? I knew all of that was happening. Right. 3 weeks after the bin Ladenish and we go to Leon Petta's retirement"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "ceremony from Langley, Virginia. He's going to go over and be Secretary of Defense. He gives a great speech on"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "stage, gets off stage, Langley, Virginia, right? M um and he literally brings over"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "Katherine Bigalow and Mark Bull, Hollywood producer, screenwriter, director for Zero Dark 30,"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "Panetta introduces them to us and says, \"Hey, look, they're going to make you famous.\" So, so within three weeks, less than a"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "month of the mission, for those that don't know, Leon Petta was director of CIA at the time. Yep. Right. So, he uh full full access"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "for Hollywood for that movie. Right. I knew that firsthand within a month of the mission, right? I got out of the"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "Navy, right? I hurt my neck in the crash. It was the last mission I was ever on. I get out of the Navy later that fall. Um, I'm contacted by the"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "author Mark Bowen. Mark Bowen wrote Blackhawk Down. He wrote a book called The Finish about the Bin Laden raid. And"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "he contacts me. He's like, \"Hey, Matt, I've already interviewed President Obama. I got the White House perspective"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "of the raid. I've already interviewed Admiral McCraven. I got the J- Sock perspective of the raid. We would love"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "to interview you for your ground truth perspective. Fascinating. I already knew the movie, right? Movie was percolating."}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "Like, when do you want your book to come out? It's like, well, we're trying hard to get it out before the election."}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "Okay. So, I'm an enlisted guy, right? I work for a living, right? I'm not the"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "I'm not the admiral. I'm not the the general. I'm not the president, but I'm of CIA. I'm sitting in my"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "position watching every single leader from this country be willing to talk"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "about their heroic actions for their right, you know, re-election campaign, whatever you want to call it."}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "Mhm. It It pissed me off. All right. It made me mad because none of the 24 operators"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "that were on the mission um were getting any credit for it. Right."}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "It was all the heroic decision-making in Washington DC. And so, so that's when I I knew I was getting out. I uh whole"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "bunch of us had been to ground zero, right? I'd never been to New York City before. We went to ground zero after the"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "Bin Laden raid. Crushed me, right? I stood there at ground zero and and and"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "uh I'm pretty pretty good at blocking out the emotions. It crushed me. And I"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "knew I had hurt my back pretty significantly on the on the Hilo crash. I was getting a divorce. I was had done"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "13 straight tours at that time and uh and it just felt like really good"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "bookends. My very first deployment 9/11 happened. Last thing I did is crash into his compound. I'm now so senior. They're"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "going to take me out of the operational side of things. Damn. Um and I didn't I didn't join to be the"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "troop commander. I didn't join to be the officer. I joined to stay enlisted. Right. I had my degree. Stayed enlisted"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "the whole time. You were on the invasion. Yeah. You were on the invasion. Holy [ __ ] So"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "career kicked. Wow. So my my whole career I saw it happen. I saw it evolve and then I saw it I saw it"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "spiraling towards the end, right? I saw I saw the the the officers and the self-promotion side of things, I just by"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "the time I got back from the Bin Laden mission and and I knew I was hurt at that point, we went to ground zero. I"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "was like, man, I'm I am cooked. I was done. Came back from that and uh"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "called it. Damn. Why did you conceal your identity? Oh, sorry. I missed that part. Um"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "because why not? If somebody can tell me the upside of"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "being out there and and being famous or or trying to be, right? I I very much"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "enjoy my anonymity. My my neighbors where I live, you know, 20 feet away have no clue anything about my"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "background. Um and I like it that way. I didn't I read all these books growing"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "up, right? I served 13 straight tours and none of it did I do by myself."}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "So So why would I then now all of a sudden write a book talking about all my"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "heroic actions? I just I never saw it that way. I was like, \"Okay, well, if I'm going to write about it, I'm I'm"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "going to do it in my terms and and I'm not going to show my face cuz that's irrelevant, right? The story is what it is. Has nothing to do with what we look"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "like.\" Yep. Um, and so yeah, that's when I was like, \"Okay, I want to tell the story. I want"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "to do it uh accurately, authentically, and then I don't want to be the center line of the story, so I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "remove myself from the equation.\" And uh, and that's where it started. Well, I mean, I think it's pretty damn smart"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "idea. I mean, one of How many guys were on the raid? 25. 24 24 people out of the"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "entire world on the raid that takes out the [ __ ] world's most wanted man and"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "pissed a lot of people off. But I didn't want the story to be be about me. Who it's irrelevant who wrote the book? It's like let's hear the"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "story. Who are these type of people? Where do they come from? Where do you know who are these guys? What are seals? What are they all about?"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "Yeah. Right. And and I think Hollywood does a pretty shitty job in portraying it."}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "Right. They they they think we all look like Jaco Willink, right? But I'm sorry. I don't look like Joo. I I I don't run"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "like Gogggins, right? Like, sorry. Yeah. Well,"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "glad to uh glad you're here once again. So, let's let's get into it. Where did you grow up?"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "I grew up in a remote village in the middle of Alaska. My parents were"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "missionaries, Christian missionaries. a village called Antioch, Alaska, 350"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "miles northwest of Anchorage on the Kuskawim River. 500 people."}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "Whoa. Drove a snowmobile to school in the morning. Graduated high school with three people in my senior class."}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "What? I was a validictorian. You were Congratulations."}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "The uh our high school mascot and you can Google it still to this day, right?"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "Anniac's the name of the village. Our half our high school mascot was the half breeds. Are you serious?"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "The Antiac half breeds, the mighty mighty half breeds, right? High school cheerleaders. And and and everybody"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "thinks it's a derogatory term, right? I I say [ __ ] right? In in the village in Alaska, right? I was one of the few"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "white kids that were in the village, right? Um most everybody was a half breed and everybody was proud of that"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "heritage. And what was the moral of the story? Nobody cares what color you are. Don't be an [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "That's the way I grew up, man. I grew up in a village as a minority. I was the white kid. Um,"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "appreciating the fact that everybody was a half breed, right? I drove a snowmobile to school. I bought my first"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "AR-15 from my history teacher after class. Get the [ __ ] out of here. What?"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "After class, I gave him I gave him 700 in cash. He he reaches under his desk,"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "pulls out my my Colt uh AR-15 A2, and uh"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "boom, I put it in my locker till the end of the day. What? School ends. I slung my new rifle, walked out of school, got on my"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "snowmobile, and drove home. Holy [ __ ] So yeah, that What's the name of this town?"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "Anniac. A N I A K. Love it. So yeah, man. It was it was a middle"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "school, dude. Well, hold on. So you're the only You're the only white kid in a town of"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "No. Did you say 300? 500 there. There's a handful. Not"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "Yeah. Not more than 100. I guess what I'm asking is how the hell did your family wind up here? Missionaries. I was I was born in"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "California with two sisters, right? My parents was a my dad was a teacher and had an opportunity to move to Alaska and"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "teach for some of these remote villages and and right they were always Christian and knew their faith and so moved to the"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "village. Um my dad ultimately became the village magistrate. So like the the the"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "law in town right log cabin courthouse. Um right 100% of the rules broken in"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "town were alcoholrelated. So right you get drunk, beat up your old lady. My dad would arraign you to three weeks in"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "jail. Well, we didn't have a jail in our town. So, you'd have to fly a little Cessna down to the next bigger village,"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "do your 3 weeks in the the drunk tank or whatever you're doing. Then, you'd fly back to our village and you're trying to get back to yours. Well, the the weather"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "would roll in and you you couldn't fly from place to place. So, you just got"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "sent to jail for 3 weeks. The only person you know in my village is my dad. So, you show back up at the the"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "courthouse, knock on the door. Hey, Mr. Terry. Oh, hey, Sean. I see you're out. Well, yeah. Well, I'm trying to get back"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "to my village, but the weather rolled in. and we can't travel, you know, uh, can I stay at your house? So, my dad"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "would be like, \"Sure, but you got to stay for church on Sunday.\" So, we'd literally have a guy that my dad sent to"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "jail. He's back 3 weeks later. He literally stayed on our slept on our couch in our living room. And then on"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "Sunday morning, you know, we'd have kind of a small church service at the house and there's there's my dad's buddy."}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "Wow. Wow. That's that is"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "I I never I never wanted to leave the village, man. I I thought the village was as a young man, right? Hunting,"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "fishing, running around. 16 years old, I'm taking a boat up the river for a week at a time with a"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "fishing pole and some some guns, a dog, and you know, a buddy. Damn. We'd come back a week later, right? I I"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "barely trust a 16-year-old to valet park a car these days. No kidding. Alaska was it was just a whole different"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "deal. So, you spent your entire childhood up there? Yeah. damn near error. Anyways, that's it. Graduated high school and"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "then all I ever wanted to do, right? I read these books in middle school for a book report. Uh found the book Men with Green Faces,"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "seal book from Vietnam. I read that book. Jean Wentz is the author. I've met him. That was pretty cool."}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "Yeah. Yep. Uh that was the first book I read and uh and man was hooked. Was like man I kept"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "reading more and more books, more and more books and like I don't I told my dad one day he's like no you don't want"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "to join the military. I'm like, \"No, this is what I'm doing.\" He's like, \"Well, would you go to college first? You know, all you know is this village"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "in Alaska. Go to college.\" I'm like, \"Sure, okay, but I'm still going to the Navy.\" They were hoping I'd change my"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "mind. So, I went to school in Los Angeles, same school my parents had went to. So, I I didn't know anything about, right? I"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "went to I went to college. Talk about a [ __ ] culture shock. I'd never driven on the freeway. I had"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "never worked a gas pump at the gas station, right? Like before ATM cards, put a 20 on pump three, right? We had a"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "a barge that would come up the river and deliver fuel to like a 700gallon fuel tank in front of our house that we would"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "use for the year, right? I went to college. I showed up in Southern California with a flannel, work boots, like, hey, I'm here for school."}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "Like, nice. Who's this knucklehead? Wow. Yeah. I'd never been on a date. I'd"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "never driven on the freeway. I'd never done anything. Man, you'd never been on a date? It's a village of high school class of"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "three. Got to go to the next village. Village of Alaska. Where you taking them?"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "Holy. You've never been on a date? Not done with college. No girlfriend, nothing. Okay, give me"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "Hold on. I got to hear girlfriend from down the river. The village down the river. Down the river."}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "Holy. Well, I mean, what did you guys do for a date? Well, well, okay. So, we for basketball,"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "right? I played basketball. Matt miss the net when I played basketball. Um we"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "would you'd fly a Cessna from village to village and that's how you'd you know compete with other schools and so when"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "you'd fly to the other schools there was always like a a dance that night. So you know whatever. So that was that was it"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "man. Fly fly from village to village you're there for the weekend play some basketball find the locals make some"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "friends. Right on man I let's talk about the fours. That"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "sounds like that's was was a something that's straight from my father stuck with you. Straight from my father um that he"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "demonstrated right a lot of people talk my dad demonstrated and and he"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "demonstrated his four Fs were were what guided him through life and that's his family, his friends, his fun and his"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "faith. And so that's that's my dad passed last December and uh"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "Oh man, I'm sorry to hear that. you have a 30-year battle with Parkinson's. So, long long spiral. Never heard him"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "complain once. Not once. So, I that's that's rubbed off on me as as I've dealt"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "with my situation, right? Whether I was going to turn into a little [ __ ] and start complaining or if I was going to"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "put my head down, get to work, and deal with it. Yeah. Yeah. What about your mother?"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "Mom still here, doing fine. Yeah. Mh. You guys close? Very. You grew up close."}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "Um, yeah, cuz you're in a village in Alaska. Not much else to do, right? Um,"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "I went to college after college, joined the Navy, right? Enlisted. Um, I thought they my parents thought I would have"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "lost focus on the on the SEAL thing and uh, no, I was just as as amped up. I uh,"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "I tried Army ROC in college, so they sent me to jump school, right? Army ROC."}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "So, kind of got a little sidetracked thinking, okay, maybe maybe I'll do this ROC thing. was an officer in the army"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "and I went to jump school as a cadet and and I'm at the chow hall in at jump"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "school and I'm sitting across from right these seals. Little did I know they just graduated buds, right? But I think"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "they're hairy chested frog men and uh and they're making fun of my stupid army haircut and I was devastated. I was like"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "[ __ ] these guys are making fun of my hair. like if I if I continue with this army thing, I'm I'm going to go have to"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "do the haircuts and boots and like that's a thing. And I I had read all these books about the Navy. I was like, \"Yeah, man. I I came back from jump"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "school, my cadet status. I went to my little ROC boss, and I'm like, \"Hey, man. I can't do this. I I've always"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "dreamt about the Navy, and that's what I'm going to go do.\" They made fun of my [ __ ] hair. I'm out. I'm out. This is [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "Yeah, that was it. Left ROC, graduated, and then enlisted in the Navy. So, you did you got your degree?"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "Yep. Yep. What's your degree in? Social science. Nice. Nice. Waste of time."}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "Waste of waste of time. Never used it. Um, but I had it. I went to the"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "recruiter's office and listed. They're like, \"Great, you have a degree. You can join as an E3.\" So, E3 torpedo. It's the shortest A"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "school I could find, right? Uh, all my buddies did Gunner's mate and they were like, \"Oh, six months. Don't do that.\" So,"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "torpedo, I think it was 6 weeks, nine weeks, something like that. And straight to buds,"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "glass 226. Nice. And uh and then I made it straight"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "through. So, that was And you were the honor man. Correct."}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "They say. Why'd you get honor man? Do you know? I don't know. Somebody else picked me. Oh, right. Come on. You got a good"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "inclination. I like to work hard. That's it. you like. Did you find Buds challenging"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "at all? Um, yeah, of course. Of course, Buds is"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "challenging. I'm not going to say Buds is not challenging, but I had read 6 million books and and set my"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "expectations here. Mhm. And so, I think I had set them so high. Maybe it was a little little down from"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "where I had set them at. Um, didn't mean it wasn't hard, right? One of my best friends, every morning he'd wake up,"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "he's like, \"Fuck this. I'm quitting today.\" And then he'd never quit. But every morning he'd tell me he was quitting where where me I was like,"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "\"Okay, if I if I allow myself to think that every morning, every morning he's like, \"Bitch, I'm out of here. [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "this.\" And he'd never leave. I'm like, \"Listen, you got to fix this cuz you're really you're really robbing me wrong."}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "You're lying to me.\" Every morning you're [ __ ] with me and you're not quitting. Um I was afraid if I ever"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "entertained those thoughts I'd quit. So I was like, \"No, not quitting. Never entertained them and went right"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "through.\" What did your parents think? I don't think they knew what to think."}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "Um, I think that's the part when I started lying to my parents, right? As soon as you graduate, uh, it's like what"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "they know is what they know and they don't really need to know anything more for right now. Um, right, I graduated,"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "nothing going on. Still pre- 911. Um, and then on my very first deployment, I"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "was sitting in Okinawa, Japan, watched it all transpire on my barracks television. No [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "Yeah. I mean, we were we were like, \"Holy shit.\" Like, think about it. Your first deployment, brand new guy. Nobody"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "in your platoon seen any combat. Like, you know, there's the stories of guys going around that maybe the little"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "Grenada, Panama here and there, but nobody really done anything. And then now we're we watched 9/11 on unfold on"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "my television and right, the rest is history. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "what did you think when you saw that? Were you um the first one had hit by the time we"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "had turned on the news and by the time the second one hit, you know, we watched that live and there was all sorts of"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "speculation between the first and the second, hey, what was this accident? Whatever. Who knew? But by the time you"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "watched the second plane fly in, it was the gut punch that you were like, \"Okay, this is real. Something's happening. If"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "that doesn't give you goosebumps and think you're going to work, something's wrong.\" So, I mean, I I probably would"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "have got out of the teams had we not gone to had 911 happened. Yeah. Right. I would have done my time and and"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "got out. Um, but now I was smack dab new guy. 911 just happened. We finished that"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "deployment, came back, did another workup, and then the next uh my next deployment, we deployed right to Iraq"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "for the kind of initial invasion up into Baghdad. Man, dude,"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "I was still still running like thin skinned Humvees like before the IED threat. Way way way."}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "What a what a just what an arc of a career. So your first deployment, you're watching 9/11 happen. Your last"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "deployment. Well, we don't count as a deployment. Yeah. Your last your last mission. I"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "mean, [ __ ] You take the I mean, you're taking the guy out that orchestrate. It's just [ __ ] wild to"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "me. That's And you're on the invasion. So what? So first deployment you watch 9/11 happen. Second deployment you're on"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "that invasion and you're at team five, correct? Yep. How did it feel going on the invasion?"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "Well, I would imagine I don't want to I don't want to upset my team three fellas that were there before us, right? They had done the the oil"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "platforms and and moved up in land. By the time five came and swapped out with three, we were just now taking Baghdad."}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "And so we we took Baghdad and then moved into one of the palaces and spent the next the rest of my deployment running"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "ops out of Baghdad, which was okay, like living the dream,"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "right? Young frog man, we got a we got an enemy. We're going to take the fight to them and you're new, impressionable,"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "and gung-ho. So away we went. Was it pretty kinetic? Yeah, for that for for going from zero"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "before. Um yeah, I mean my my first shootouts, my first everything um was"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "that deployment. Um there were a lot of learning happened that deployment, but it's still learning"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "because it's a it's a team five platoon that's pretty new. Mhm. Um"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "yeah. Well, let's talk about what was your first what was the first shootout? What was your first gunfight like? Was it"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "what you had expected reading all the books? It's never as expected, right? You can"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "think what you're going to think and it's never plays out that way. At least that's in my opinion. Um, shot through"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "the door. Shooting through the door. That was the first first first. Oh my gosh. They're shooting back at us right"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "now. Right. We'd assaulted a target. Um, just hitting houses. Hitting houses. Um,"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "and it was at the front door and they just started pumping rounds through the front door and and that was the first time I was like, \"Oh, okay. All right."}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "Something's happening here. Right on. That was it. What else were you guys doing on that"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "deployment? That was it. Right. We lived in the green zone, lived in one of the palaces"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "out by Biop uh Baghdad International Airport. Uh worked for the different"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "intel agencies kind of giving us targets and and we'd go do our best to roll them up, right? Uh, I thought we were pretty"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:37", "text": "cool at the time, little, you know, and then every night you'd see these cool black helicopters flying over and I'd go to my boss like, \"Hey boss, why don't"}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "why don't we have those little birds? There's some Why are we in thin skin Humvees right now? Why why aren't we in"}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "like a why aren't we flying to these targets? Those little birds look really cool.\" They're like, \"Well, you don't get those assets here.\" So, that's when"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "I started learning a little more about the big leagues and and the different assets that came with different units."}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "and and so I had screened for um my"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "previous command before my second deployment. So I got word on the Iraqi deployment that I' I'd"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "got picked up to go to training uh to see if I could make it into Damn Neck."}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "Okay. So for those that are listening that don't know what DAM neck is, that's where Seal Team 6 development group is"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "at. So I've heard I I don't know anything about it. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:31", "text": "you better be careful. One of these admirals might come after you. They will. So, so Team Six pops on your radar cuz"}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:37", "text": "all the assets such as all the cool toys that they get, you're seeing that and all the guys I knew at five, right? Some of the the bigger studs that I knew"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:44", "text": "would like disappear and then they went off to go see if they could screen. And so I'm like, \"All right, well, if I'm"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "here, I need to try this.\" And so So you got word you got word that you"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "got accepted to to Yeah. I'd screened before the second deployment and then I got word what, six, nine months later that I had been"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "picked up. Um, I barely passed my PT test."}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:08", "text": "Are you serious, bro? We were we were doing a SR in Fort uh in Camp Pendleton"}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "and literally they called us two days prior and they're like, \"Hey, your screening test is like tomorrow morning.\" I've been eating MREs, face"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:21", "text": "painted, living under a tree for like 3 days. And literally three other dudes got pulled out of the field, drove down"}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "to San Diego, and the next morning we had our PT test. Holy [ __ ] And And I barely passed my push-ups."}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "Right on. Yeah. Yeah. A little worried about that. Like, all right, are they are they even going to, you know, they even going to pick me up? Cuz I was a slip knot and"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "barely passed my push-ups. They uh I got picked up and and then I made sure my"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "push-ups were good for the You take a screening test day one of of training. they show up and give you a hard one. So, right on."}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "I had to make sure I was ready for that. So, you pass the screen test, you get it, you get in there. Let's talk about"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "showing up for training. How was that? Pretty cool. Different, right? Um,"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "right. You go to Buds, you have the I'd read a whole bunch about Buds. I hadn't read much about this. I didn't know much about this."}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:13", "text": "I knew BUDS was more of a hey, don't quit check. I've got I don't have that word in my vocabulary. Now, it's okay. H"}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "how can can you? Right. It's a selection and training pro probably more selection"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "than training, right? So, they want to know you have it or you don't. And and day one,"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "it's shotgun blast to the face. And then it's uh I thought getting into that unit"}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:37", "text": "was twice as hard as Buds. Really? Buds was simple enough where it was like, you get the deal, right? Yell."}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "Yeah, run that way. Don't quit. Okay, check. I got that. The selection was okay. How good are you"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "at what we've trained you to do? And can you make really good decisions under stress and pressure? And can you do"}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "that? Right. It's not just about just quitting anymore. Yeah. You found that to be a lot harder."}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "Um I loved it. It was much harder, right? Because now the selection process"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "in which they are judging you on has nothing to do with you just didn't quit. Now it's okay. How good are you at the"}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:15", "text": "game? Mhm. Right. Buds was don't quit. We'll train you some basics. Now you've been a SEAL for a handful of years. Now we want to"}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "put you to the test of what you know and we're going to put high expectations on you and then if you don't cut it, you're"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "out. So I loved it. But it was um very"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "demanding. Can you say how many people you started"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "with? Do you know? I don't remember the exact number. I would say rough rough numbers 50% washed"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:43", "text": "out. 50% washed out. And when and and no disrespect, no, hey, you're an [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:39:43", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "You don't cut it here. It's like, hey, you just don't cut it here. Go back to a team. Depending on what you failed out for, you may have a chance to kind of"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "reapply and screen again or or you just go back and and that's it. Gotcha. 50%ish."}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "So, when you say it's mostly selection, a little bit of training. So I mean are"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "so they you have a baseline when you show up there that they they they have an expectation from from the baseline"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "that they you know I mean so are you now learning in the training pipeline you"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:20", "text": "are and they will learn they will teach you something new every single day. Every single day you're getting"}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "something new and it's it's it's just it's it's amazing. every single day. And if if you're the guy who didn't pick it"}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "up the day prior, the next day there are okay, now they stack something new on top of you and you weren't getting what"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "they got yesterday. Okay, the next day is something more. And if if you're next thing you know you got three of these things stacked up above you and you're"}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "not keeping up, you're not you're not going to last too long. So what what what did you find to be the"}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "hardest part of green team? For those who don't know, green team is a training it's the training regimen to get into"}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "into development group. I think it's you it's an individual"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "operator's ability to identify a situation, right? It could be an elephant, a big big elephant, and be"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:07", "text": "able to be like, \"Okay, I'm going to eat that elephant one bite at a time. I'm going to prioritize those bites smartly, and I'm going to start eating,"}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "right?\" And and the hardest part of training was was that they were"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "constantly putting big elephants in front of you, stressing you out, wanting to see how you dealt with that size of"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "that challenge, the complexity of that challenge. Did you quit because the elephant's too big? Or did you say,"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:33", "text": "\"Okay, check. I'll eat that elephant. What size bite-sized piece can I take? I'm going to start prioritizing those bites and start eating.\""}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "Gotcha. That like the tactics were what they were. are constantly throwing something new at you. If if you're into it and and"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:45", "text": "like that type of stuff, it was it's the best training you'll ever get. Every single day you're learning something new and getting faster and better and better"}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:51", "text": "and and if guys weren't cutting it, they were gone. Did you get honor man of this, too?"}, {"start": "00:41:51", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "They don't give an honor man. Right on. All right."}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:03", "text": "So, what what what is the I've never really talked to anybody. We've talked pretty extensively about what Green Team"}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "is, what the what the what what what the what the different cycles are of the of"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:15", "text": "the program and all that kind of stuff, but what what is the graduation like?"}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "There isn't one. There is no graduation. How do you know where you're going to go? It's like the last couple months of training, they be"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "like, \"Hey, you guys are going to this color. You're going to that color. You're going to that color.\" And you just I mean I remember guys who uh the"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:34", "text": "guys who went to one one of the squadrons I won't mention the color but the the guys in my class that were going"}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": "00:42:40", "text": "to the next squadron that were deploying they literally left green team 2 weeks early checked into their squadron and"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "deployed. No [ __ ] So they were like you're you're graduating and integrated"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:51", "text": "into your second deck squadron and for them they they deployed. I waited three months and I deployed three months after"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:57", "text": "my I graduated. Gotcha. So, it's it's the pace is insane at that facility."}, {"start": "00:42:57", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "And you went to Red Squadron. I went Yes. Where did you want to go? Did you want"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "to go to red? Doesn't matter. I wanted to graduate and be assigned to one of the squadrons. You didn't care which one."}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:13", "text": "When I think when you're going through and you you're envisioning up on what the differences are and how you you want"}, {"start": "00:43:13", "end": "00:43:19", "text": "to make believe that there's something special and different, in reality, they're not. And whichever one you land"}, {"start": "00:43:19", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "in, you're going to be happy and content and welcomed. Are there different cultures for"}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "different teams? I didn't think so. May maybe little nuances, but not not not significant"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:36", "text": "enough to speak about. How would you describe the culture of Red?"}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "Put up or shut up, I don't know. Like, uh, very cut and dry, black or white,"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:55", "text": "right? like, yeah, no uh no quarter, right? It was"}, {"start": "00:43:55", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "standards were this high and if you didn't cut the standard, we're not going to give you a break on it, right? Here's"}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:06", "text": "the standard. You're either meet it or exceed it or we're going to have problems. I loved it because everything"}, {"start": "00:44:06", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "was very black and white and you were either on one side or the other. And and"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:19", "text": "yeah, and then and then of course, right, the the op tempo was was through the roof, right, I I'd done two"}, {"start": "00:44:19", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "deployments at team five, which were the longer, slower ones, and then you get to that command and they're more often and"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "and quicker. Mhm. And so then showed up and then just started started"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "deploying every six months or less or whatever it was. It was just constant. Um, what was it like showing up to Red?"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "Everything that I'd always dreamt it would be. It was. Let's Let's talk about It's a bold statement."}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:50", "text": "Yeah. Let's talk about Let's just describe it. Day one. Um you go up to Well, now it's all"}, {"start": "00:44:50", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "different, but but uh we went up to the second deck, right, which is where all the squadrons are stationed. You you"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:45:01", "text": "show up with your case of beer and you introduce yourself and right the whole squadron's sitting around. They're like"}, {"start": "00:45:01", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "all the new guys are standing there like, \"Okay, bitch.\" You know, stand up. Tell us about yourself and you know where you from. You're like, \"Hi, my"}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "name's Matt and I team five.\" They're like, \"Shut up.\" Like, \"Oh, no, no, keep going.\" You're like, \"Okay, well, I was"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "at team five. Shut the [ __ ] up, new guy.\" You're like, \"All right, check. All right, here's my beer.\" Next guy"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:24", "text": "goes and they yell at him. They're like, \"Great. We don't care anything about you. Welcome to the team. You're new."}, {"start": "00:45:24", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "Doesn't care what you used to do in the past. You're now part of the team. Let's go.\" That was it. And then And then we"}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "went to work, man. And we went to work. We went What's the team room like?"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:42", "text": "Um, in what way? I don't know. Do they have any artifacts in there from previous missions? It's like this on steroids, right? It's"}, {"start": "00:45:42", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "uh cool artifacts from from missions all over the place. Um, whole bunch of"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:54", "text": "computers around the walls of the room, right? We got a new command by the time I left, so it was updated. The one I"}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:46:00", "text": "moved into was the old school, the OG building. Um, it's been updated a lot"}, {"start": "00:46:00", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "since then. Right on. any any any particular artifacts that"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "stick out in your mind? Nothing. They're all artifacts. Nothing nothing"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "that cool. Right on. Well, Matt, let's take a quick break."}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:24", "text": "When we come back, we'll get into some of the different operations that you were on before the Bin Laden raid."}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:30", "text": "Cool. Buckle up because the biggest Black Ops"}, {"start": "00:46:30", "end": "00:46:36", "text": "ever is arriving on November 14th. That's Call of Duty Black Ops 7. With"}, {"start": "00:46:36", "end": "00:46:41", "text": "three epic game modes across co-op, campaign, multiplayer, and zombies, it's"}, {"start": "00:46:41", "end": "00:46:49", "text": "pushing the franchise into bold new territory. The allnew co-op campaign lets you play solo or with friends as"}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "you infiltrate Avalon, a high-tech stronghold on the brink. At launch, jump"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:47:00", "text": "into 18 explosive multiplayer maps with exciting fast-paced movement. If you're"}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:06", "text": "looking for some undead action, the roundbased zombies mode is back again with a twist. You'll fight through"}, {"start": "00:47:06", "end": "00:47:11", "text": "hordes of zombies as you drive the new wonder vehicle named Old Tessie and"}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:17", "text": "wield a brand new wonder weapon. Black Ops 7 doesn't just evolve, it reinvents."}, {"start": "00:47:17", "end": "00:47:24", "text": "If you thought you knew Call of Duty, get ready for something even bigger. Pre-order Call of Duty Black Ops 7 now."}, {"start": "00:47:24", "end": "00:47:29", "text": "Available November 14th, rated M for mature."}, {"start": "00:47:30", "end": "00:47:36", "text": "Hey folks, our friends at Tractor Supply have always stood for community, for neighbors helping neighbors, and for the"}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:43", "text": "people who keep life out here moving forward. And at the heart of every community are the heroes who serve, the"}, {"start": "00:47:43", "end": "00:47:49", "text": "veterans, active duty military, first responders, and the families who stand"}, {"start": "00:47:49", "end": "00:47:55", "text": "beside them. These are the folks who answer the call, who protect, who sacrifice. And Tractor Supply believes"}, {"start": "00:47:55", "end": "00:48:02", "text": "that that deserves more than just a thank you. That's why they created the Hometown Heroes program. It's their way"}, {"start": "00:48:02", "end": "00:48:08", "text": "of giving back in meaningful everyday ways. As a hometown hero, you'll enjoy"}, {"start": "00:48:08", "end": "00:48:13", "text": "special perks through Neighbors Club, like earning rewards on every purchase,"}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:18", "text": "free trailer rentals and delivery, and exclusive savings on holidays that honor"}, {"start": "00:48:18", "end": "00:48:24", "text": "your service. And the best part, once you sign up and verify through ID.mme,"}, {"start": "00:48:24", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "it's automatic. No hoops, no hassles. So, if you or someone you love is a"}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:35", "text": "hometown hero, visit tractorsupply.com/hometown heroes to learn more. It's Tractor"}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:43", "text": "Supply way of standing behind those who always stand for us."}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:48", "text": "All right, Matt, we're back from the break. We had just kind of talked a little bit about green team showing up"}, {"start": "00:48:48", "end": "00:48:56", "text": "over at Red Squadron over at uh Seal Team 6 and and kind of what that was like. So, what I'd like to move into now"}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "is basically your career over at Development Group, what the pace was"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "like, where were you guys deploying, stuff like that. So, let's just start with what was your what was your first"}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:13", "text": "deployment with with Red Squadron? Man, first deployment with with uh my"}, {"start": "00:49:13", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "former squadron was we deployed to Afghanistan. I was actually there for about a month"}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:24", "text": "of deployment and during this period of time, right, our our army counterparts"}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:30", "text": "were very focused in Iraq and the Navy team had had uh leadership in"}, {"start": "00:49:30", "end": "00:49:35", "text": "Afghanistan. So, you know, most of the Navy guys were deploying to Afghanistan."}, {"start": "00:49:35", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "The army had control of Iraq. Well, Iraq had been picking up, right, from the from the tier one perspective. So, I did"}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:47", "text": "about a month of deployment in Afghanistan. And then I got a call that"}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:54", "text": "a handful of guys from our squadron were going to move over to Iraq and integrate"}, {"start": "00:49:54", "end": "00:49:59", "text": "with a army unit. Okay. You You said it, not me. Why would they"}, {"start": "00:49:59", "end": "00:50:06", "text": "pick a new guy? Oh, my whole team went Oh, your whole team? The whole team? They pulled the whole team. So, my team leader all the way"}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "down to me being the new guy. They pulled a whole team, moved us over to Iraq, and then they farmed each one of"}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "us out to a different army team. So, I was integrated as a new guy into a into"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:24", "text": "a army unit, as a new guy on one of their assault elements. You know, other guys on my team were another another"}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:31", "text": "team, another team, another team. We all lived together, operated together, but we we fully integrated with uh an army"}, {"start": "00:50:31", "end": "00:50:36", "text": "unit with Delta. So, did they did Delta send guys over to six to integrate in"}, {"start": "00:50:36", "end": "00:50:42", "text": "Afghanistan? At that point, it was because they they had they were taking some heavy casualties, right? Um"}, {"start": "00:50:42", "end": "00:50:48", "text": "is this when that factory blew up and killed a bunch of there was a lot of stuff going on. Iraq"}, {"start": "00:50:48", "end": "00:50:54", "text": "was getting hotter and hotter, right? I had done my team five deployment there. I screened. I went to Damn Neck and now"}, {"start": "00:50:54", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "my next appointment was Afghanistan. I was there a month and then they moved us over to Inbed and I worked out of"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:05", "text": "Baghdad again with with the Delta team. So who was who took your guys' slot in"}, {"start": "00:51:05", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "in Afghanistan? They just they just didn't backfill us with anybody. They went lighter. The the squadron that stayed there was light a"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "team. A team went over and and augmented the army guys. Phenomenal deployment, right? Um, I'm"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "still very very good friends with the army guys I worked with. They're phenomenal individuals. Um,"}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "can we can we rewind just real quick? So, were you guys did you guys do anything in Afghanistan or did you get"}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:38", "text": "farmed out because it was just not there just wasn't a lot going on? No, we were doing ops. I was I was out"}, {"start": "00:51:38", "end": "00:51:43", "text": "of Jalalabad and we're running missions out of Jbad. Um, it just they weren't as"}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:50", "text": "kinetic. It was it was different, right? Iraq everything was just kicking off. Afghanistan was still"}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:56", "text": "Afghanistan's been through its phases, right? I've been there 10 times. But, um, at that time, Afghanistan felt a"}, {"start": "00:51:56", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "little slower. They were still hitting ops. They were still running missions. It was just the the priority was, okay,"}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "let's move some extra assaulters over here. I I think the Delta guys had already lost a couple guys before we got"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:16", "text": "there, and then while we were there, they had lost a couple more out of one of their other units. It was it was"}, {"start": "00:52:16", "end": "00:52:21", "text": "pretty uh right I I rode around on a little bird right as much as I dreamt about the little bird thing I we were"}, {"start": "00:52:21", "end": "00:52:27", "text": "black uh we were Baghdad SWAT right cruise around on little birds once twice"}, {"start": "00:52:27", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "three times a night whatever it was uh all over Baghdad. Um so hold on hold on"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "this there's a lot to unpack here I'm really curious you know before but let's"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:45", "text": "let's just keep it Afghanistan for your one month over there. So, I mean, what"}, {"start": "00:52:45", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "was your impression of the difference between"}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:58", "text": "regular SEAL teams? Now, you're over at SEL Team Six in Afghanistan with Red Squadron. Did you see anything right off"}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:04", "text": "the bat? We're not talking about I mean, you're only two deployments into your 13 deployments, so you got 11 left over at"}, {"start": "00:53:04", "end": "00:53:11", "text": "six. What was the first your first month like in Afghanistan with Red?"}, {"start": "00:53:11", "end": "00:53:17", "text": "Great question. Um, a lot more toys, a lot more assets, and then the guys I was working with were"}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:24", "text": "all older, right? I think it, you know, our regular teams are all new. The age group's younger cuz you're newer, right? You get"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:32", "text": "to damn neck, there's a lot of older guys that have been there a long time. So, a just from a maturity of force, I noticed that. B,"}, {"start": "00:53:32", "end": "00:53:39", "text": "from a mission planning perspective, right? Just maturity of force, guys who've been around a little bit. Um the mission planning what type of targets"}, {"start": "00:53:39", "end": "00:53:45", "text": "were just all of that. Um the technology was a huge right differentiator. We had"}, {"start": "00:53:45", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "different toys, different assets, different stuff that we could use to target our our guys that we were going"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:57", "text": "after. So that was that was kind of the biggest eye opening. Hey, I'm I'm now in this big league unit that has some"}, {"start": "00:53:57", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "additional resources and tools and wow, this is cool. I'm a new guy playing the breacher. New guy just carrying the"}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:10", "text": "heavy [ __ ] and uh loving every minute. But right, we're only there a month and"}, {"start": "00:54:10", "end": "00:54:16", "text": "it was, you know, you're chasing your phones and your bad guys and doing your normal thing. But Afghanistan terrain is"}, {"start": "00:54:16", "end": "00:54:24", "text": "not like Baghdad, right? You unless you're in Kbble, right? I operate in the mountains of Afghanistan. So just the"}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:30", "text": "rural missions to urban missions. Was it everything you thought it was"}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "cracked up to be at from the very beginning or were you a little disappointed? I got to be honest, man. It it"}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:43", "text": "everything everything I dreamt about and read about and wanted to get to, I saw"}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "and I experienced and I was like right away, [ __ ] yeah. Nice."}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "It was It was pretty legit, right? The um the caliber of guys you're working with are just next level, right? You're"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:55:03", "text": "Yeah, it's you know, everybody's tightening each other, making yourself bigger and better and and uh"}, {"start": "00:55:03", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "Yeah. Nice. Nice. And so, what was it like jumping over to Delta? I mean, you had"}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:16", "text": "you have a month taste in the training pipeline of development group. And then I mean"}, {"start": "00:55:16", "end": "00:55:23", "text": "[ __ ] less than a year over from It sounds like it's less than a year from when you showed up to green team to"}, {"start": "00:55:23", "end": "00:55:29", "text": "deploy an army unit. Now you're with Delta who's the who's the you know the"}, {"start": "00:55:29", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "the army counterpart. Yeah. What? They were they were phenomenal. I I had a great time. I figured there'd be more"}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:42", "text": "you know the rivalry [ __ ] talking. None of that. None of it at the operational level that I experienced. Like I said"}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:49", "text": "I'm I'm still very good friends. Some of my best friends were the army guys I worked with on that deployment. Um,"}, {"start": "00:55:49", "end": "00:55:54", "text": "pretty cool, right? We're working out of Baghdad with all the all the sexy assets that that, right, I'd been in Baghdad a"}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:56:01", "text": "deployment and a half before dreaming of all these fun assets and toys and what it would be like. And now here I'm back"}, {"start": "00:56:01", "end": "00:56:06", "text": "now as a tier one unit. It wasn't, you know, Army Navy, but it was Army unit and a whole bunch of Navy guys were"}, {"start": "00:56:06", "end": "00:56:13", "text": "still there and and now we're we're hitting [ __ ] every night. Um, that was"}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "that was right. Yeah, that was that was a steep learning curve. I'll bet it was. I mean, what what are"}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:25", "text": "some things that are different? What what are some things that you notice that are different between the two?"}, {"start": "00:56:25", "end": "00:56:31", "text": "I mean, let's just start with the assets that you're given. I'm I'm talking the difference between"}, {"start": "00:56:31", "end": "00:56:37", "text": "development group and Delta. Oh. What are the differences that you noticed between"}, {"start": "00:56:37", "end": "00:56:43", "text": "we swim more? That's it. And and and if you get if you get honest"}, {"start": "00:56:43", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "with the army guys like half of them be like yeah if I could swim better I would have went to buds"}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:55", "text": "like well thanks for being honest I appreciate that. Right on. Um, no, great guys, right? I've worked with I've worked with"}, {"start": "00:56:55", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "operators from around the globe, right? German, uh, Israelis,"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:05", "text": "uh, Brits, Aussies, all very similar, like-minded individuals, right? Their"}, {"start": "00:57:05", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "camo may be different, their technology on their gun may be a little different. The funding they got for training is"}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:16", "text": "definitely different, but uh, from an individual operator, all very similar."}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:23", "text": "Very similar. Yeah. And I would say that for the army guys, our army counterparts, very similar. same mindset. Sure, they hadn't"}, {"start": "00:57:23", "end": "00:57:29", "text": "been through buds. They have a different selection pipeline, but but from the operator themselves, the way they're"}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:35", "text": "structured, the way they operate, right, the tactics were all pretty similar. Nothing that you couldn't assimilate"}, {"start": "00:57:35", "end": "00:57:40", "text": "into. Easy enough. So, you didn't get over there and go, \"Oh, [ __ ] I'm going to have to go"}, {"start": "00:57:40", "end": "00:57:46", "text": "through another selection.\" I should have stuck with ROC."}, {"start": "00:57:46", "end": "00:57:53", "text": "Yeah. [ __ ] No, I never had to do this detour. Damn it. They uh they again they"}, {"start": "00:57:53", "end": "00:57:59", "text": "were super cool. They opened me up um opened up everything, allowed me in and"}, {"start": "00:57:59", "end": "00:58:05", "text": "uh and respected my talents on their team. I was arguably the outsider and a new guy. Mhm. So, what kind of stuff were you"}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:12", "text": "doing over there? Baghdad SWAT, right? Little birds to the roof. Uh panders ground assault force,"}, {"start": "00:58:12", "end": "00:58:19", "text": "squish them in the middle, right? Night after night after night, right? Intel finds bad guy. We show up at the house."}, {"start": "00:58:19", "end": "00:58:28", "text": "Um, I can remember a good one where we uh, right, these Little Bird pilots are [ __ ] hot, right? They are what they say"}, {"start": "00:58:28", "end": "00:58:35", "text": "they do. They deliver on every single time. And we're hitting, you know, downtown Baghdad, thousands of rooftops,"}, {"start": "00:58:35", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "right? How do you find the one rooftop in the masses that you need to land your"}, {"start": "00:58:41", "end": "00:58:47", "text": "Hilo on? And every single night, they were perfect. Every night, always boom, boom, boom. Nailed it. Right. All right."}, {"start": "00:58:47", "end": "00:58:52", "text": "Well, one night we come in and we land on the roof, but it turns out our pilot"}, {"start": "00:58:52", "end": "00:59:00", "text": "had landed one one too far by accident, right? Landed one too far. We get on the"}, {"start": "00:59:00", "end": "00:59:06", "text": "roof, one house past our target building, ground assault fort, hit the ground, they start coming up, big"}, {"start": "00:59:06", "end": "00:59:11", "text": "shootout in the stairs, right? One of my buddies, Jeremy, shot in the leg. Um, right, they're throwing hand grenades"}, {"start": "00:59:11", "end": "00:59:17", "text": "down the stairs. Turns out there was eight guys in the top floor that me and"}, {"start": "00:59:17", "end": "00:59:22", "text": "three other dudes would have landed and made entry into that space, right? Because we were little bird team to the"}, {"start": "00:59:22", "end": "00:59:28", "text": "roof, fourman team. We would have gone top down. We would have entered on to eight dudes and that probably wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:59:28", "end": "00:59:33", "text": "have worked out too well, right? I got a lot of big guy upstairs"}, {"start": "00:59:33", "end": "00:59:39", "text": "uh scenarios where, right, you don't understand it in the minute, right? You're like, \"Oh, [ __ ] We landed one"}, {"start": "00:59:39", "end": "00:59:45", "text": "house too small, too far. We should have been there.\" Well, had we landed on the right roof, the odds are it would have,"}, {"start": "00:59:45", "end": "00:59:50", "text": "you know, maybe we wouldn't be here, right? It'd be a whole different story. Um,"}, {"start": "00:59:50", "end": "00:59:55", "text": "so yeah, that that was that was an average night in in Baghdad. That uh"}, {"start": "00:59:55", "end": "01:00:03", "text": "that that mission was actually the first night I ever killed anybody. No [ __ ] Yeah. Um Brad, I had done two first"}, {"start": "01:00:03", "end": "01:00:09", "text": "deployment, no no combat. Second deployment into Iraq. We'd done some shooting, but nobody that I had ever"}, {"start": "01:00:09", "end": "01:00:14", "text": "like engaged and saw type thing. Um, and there was that night there was a whole"}, {"start": "01:00:14", "end": "01:00:19", "text": "bunch of dudes trying to climb out the back window and uh we lit them up and"}, {"start": "01:00:19", "end": "01:00:25", "text": "then we ended up we ended up uh couple army guys ran in on the first floor of this building. They were all sandbag"}, {"start": "01:00:25", "end": "01:00:31", "text": "bunkered positions on the second floor. And uh so we pulled a Bradley fighting"}, {"start": "01:00:31", "end": "01:00:37", "text": "vehicle into the front front door of this right right in front of the house and literally had the 18-year-old kid"}, {"start": "01:00:37", "end": "01:00:43", "text": "behind the chain gun just start unloading into the house. And so like 20"}, {"start": "01:00:43", "end": "01:00:48", "text": "mm chain gun in the front yard of this house just blasting away and they all started trying to pile out the back"}, {"start": "01:00:48", "end": "01:00:54", "text": "window. [ __ ] And uh so shot them a whole bunch of them. And then uh"}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:01:00", "text": "how many of them? There's probably four or five that tried getting out. Um the uh we ended up"}, {"start": "01:01:00", "end": "01:01:07", "text": "sending an EOD guy in on the first floor of the house and they set a big thermobaric charge, right? Ran out of"}, {"start": "01:01:07", "end": "01:01:12", "text": "the house, right? The army guys like, \"Okay, 30 seconds. It's going to go 29"}, {"start": "01:01:12", "end": "01:01:19", "text": "30.\" No. Boom. Right. All right. You're the demo guy."}, {"start": "01:01:19", "end": "01:01:24", "text": "You just set the demo. You just said it should be blowing up. Now it's not blowing up. What's up? Did you dual"}, {"start": "01:01:24", "end": "01:01:29", "text": "prime it? He's like, dual prime it. What kind of demo guy doesn't dual prime"}, {"start": "01:01:29", "end": "01:01:37", "text": "something? So, okay. Now, you're sitting there. There's a thermal barrack charge that has been"}, {"start": "01:01:37", "end": "01:01:43", "text": "actuated. The clock's ticking. I'm finding the difference between Delta and Dev Group."}, {"start": "01:01:43", "end": "01:01:50", "text": "Always dual prime. The uh So, anyway, we waited. We waited. We waited and we're like, \"All right, somebody's got to go"}, {"start": "01:01:50", "end": "01:01:56", "text": "back in the first floor and hook another initiator to that charge.\" And you have no idea where that initiator's at, if"}, {"start": "01:01:56", "end": "01:02:01", "text": "it's hung up or what's going on cuz you're the demo guy said it should be off. So, same demo guy had to run back"}, {"start": "01:02:01", "end": "01:02:08", "text": "in the house, set a second initiator to it, ran out and clacked it and whole house fell down. And that was that was"}, {"start": "01:02:08", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "that was that was a big very significant moment for me in two ways. one, yeah, I"}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:19", "text": "had actually engaged somebody and and for the first time, um, but more"}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:24", "text": "importantly, right, I was pissed because we missed our landing spot, right? And"}, {"start": "01:02:24", "end": "01:02:32", "text": "and you do enough of these in hindsight, you're like, well, we're very blessed we missed that landing spot, right? So, you"}, {"start": "01:02:32", "end": "01:02:38", "text": "know, it's not always bad, right? A little perspective, look at the situation, and yeah, we got really lucky"}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:44", "text": "there. So, I probably shouldn't be mad that we missed the target. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:02:44", "end": "01:02:50", "text": "What did it feel like to take an enemy combatant's life for the first time?"}, {"start": "01:02:50", "end": "01:02:56", "text": "Zero emotion, zero anything. Nothing. No. Easy. Didn't bother you one bit. Nope."}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:03:01", "text": "To me, I've never had any issues with that. Um, right. I'm on the right side of"}, {"start": "01:03:01", "end": "01:03:08", "text": "this. They're on the wrong side. And and I had zero issues. Did it feel accomplishment?"}, {"start": "01:03:08", "end": "01:03:14", "text": "No, not really. Because what what sense of accomplishment per se, right? There's"}, {"start": "01:03:14", "end": "01:03:19", "text": "a whole bunch of people there. There probably three of us shooting at the guys climbing out the back window. It"}, {"start": "01:03:19", "end": "01:03:24", "text": "wasn't I just I went and did some crazy jiu-jitsu move on them or something. Like it was just part of the team and"}, {"start": "01:03:24", "end": "01:03:31", "text": "part of the mission and how it goes down. So I I've never been like, well, I did that and that was me and that's just"}, {"start": "01:03:31", "end": "01:03:36", "text": "never been me."}, {"start": "01:03:36", "end": "01:03:41", "text": "Let's talk about um let's just talk about before we get to"}, {"start": "01:03:41", "end": "01:03:47", "text": "the bin Laden raid. Let's just talk about any significant"}, {"start": "01:03:47", "end": "01:03:52", "text": "events that happened at Dev Group prior to the Bin Laden raid. You covered it with Pete pretty good in"}, {"start": "01:03:52", "end": "01:03:57", "text": "your last couple episodes. I was on the Captain Phillips rescue with him. Oh, you were on there. Yep. Yep. Yep."}, {"start": "01:03:57", "end": "01:04:03", "text": "Let's hear your perspective. How'd that go down? I thought Scabel did a did a great job describing it. Uh I wasn't there. I"}, {"start": "01:04:03", "end": "01:04:10", "text": "wasn't one of the shooters. Um, I'll say there's way more than three shots, right? Anybody who's saw the"}, {"start": "01:04:10", "end": "01:04:18", "text": "movie and believes it was three heat-seeking sniper bullets, I got an island of Silio. Um, I would say, right,"}, {"start": "01:04:18", "end": "01:04:24", "text": "the other misconceived notion is right after the guys took the shots, there was"}, {"start": "01:04:24", "end": "01:04:30", "text": "one AK-47 round fired inside the life raft. I don't think that's in the movie"}, {"start": "01:04:30", "end": "01:04:36", "text": "either, right? So, talk about hero to zero status, right? The shooters thought,"}, {"start": "01:04:36", "end": "01:04:43", "text": "\"Okay, well, we just missed and they they off the captain.\" So, I think probably the the sexiest move that night"}, {"start": "01:04:43", "end": "01:04:48", "text": "was was a couple of the the snipers that were on the back fail the the ship, right? They put their long guns down."}, {"start": "01:04:48", "end": "01:04:54", "text": "They still had their pistols, but they they climbed off the back of the ship, right? ocean waves. Little rope that"}, {"start": "01:04:54", "end": "01:05:00", "text": "goes out to the life raft and they did the commando crawl like the oak horse right down the rope on their stomach all"}, {"start": "01:05:00", "end": "01:05:06", "text": "the way to the life raft, you know, climbed to the back, stuck their hands, guns in and and everybody was dead. Um,"}, {"start": "01:05:06", "end": "01:05:15", "text": "so that's that's that's the piece that that I always share that's not in the movie. Um, other than that, right, we uh"}, {"start": "01:05:15", "end": "01:05:22", "text": "I wasn't one of the shooters. I wasn't intimately involved in it. I was there with the almost hundred others. that"}, {"start": "01:05:22", "end": "01:05:27", "text": "if right if they got their captain to shore we would have had to go hit some of the the training camps or some of"}, {"start": "01:05:27", "end": "01:05:32", "text": "their their facilities on shore a lot lot more booger eaters than than the three we were no [ __ ] so that's how that would have"}, {"start": "01:05:32", "end": "01:05:38", "text": "went down there was almost a hundred of us that jumped in right we didn't need a hundred to deal with four booger eaters on the"}, {"start": "01:05:38", "end": "01:05:45", "text": "on the life raft um but had they got to shore and they were within a 100 yards of shore right but they they realized"}, {"start": "01:05:45", "end": "01:05:51", "text": "that that stretch of beach was of different tribes they would have made landfall they would have offed them"}, {"start": "01:05:51", "end": "01:05:58", "text": "taking their captain. So, we were able to literally convince them to tie a rope to the life raft and tow him south. The"}, {"start": "01:05:58", "end": "01:06:03", "text": "fourth pirate rided got wounded in the hand during the initial assault. So, they had pulled him off the life raft"}, {"start": "01:06:03", "end": "01:06:09", "text": "and he's literally standing on the back of the the Banebridge with a a buddy of mine. Um"}, {"start": "01:06:09", "end": "01:06:15", "text": "there he's got his hand bandaged, right? They're smoking cigarettes, right? He's lighting his cigarette for him and they"}, {"start": "01:06:15", "end": "01:06:20", "text": "were trying to get the the pirates in the life raft to see, right? I'm lighting cigarettes and he's got his"}, {"start": "01:06:20", "end": "01:06:27", "text": "hand bandaged. And then my buddy's like, \"Hey,\" tells one of the Navy guys, \"Go in and get a soft serve ice cream cone."}, {"start": "01:06:27", "end": "01:06:33", "text": "I guarantee the Somali's never eaten soft serve ice cream.\" So So literally there's the Somali with his handage with"}, {"start": "01:06:33", "end": "01:06:40", "text": "his cigarette and his and his soft serve ice cream on the back of the ship. And and that was us trying to say, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "01:06:40", "end": "01:06:46", "text": "look, you know, look at your guy. He's getting treated very fairly. He's got medical attention, smokes, and ice"}, {"start": "01:06:46", "end": "01:06:52", "text": "cream. you know, give up the captain and and you can have some, too. That that clearly didn't pan out for"}, {"start": "01:06:52", "end": "01:06:57", "text": "him. Yeah, man. And arguably, what other tricks he's the lucky"}, {"start": "01:06:57", "end": "01:07:02", "text": "he's the luckiest out of all four of them if you think about it, cuz he's he's in federal penitentiary in New York"}, {"start": "01:07:02", "end": "01:07:08", "text": "right now, right? The others are dead, right? He never got air conditioning in Somalia."}, {"start": "01:07:08", "end": "01:07:13", "text": "He certainly didn't get heat. I guarantee he's got free college, eye care, dental care, three meals a day."}, {"start": "01:07:13", "end": "01:07:19", "text": "He's living the dream in the federal penitentiary compared to where he would have been in. I mean, [ __ ] up there. They probably"}, {"start": "01:07:19", "end": "01:07:24", "text": "have his whole life planned out for him and donations and everything for when he gets out, right? For sure."}, {"start": "01:07:24", "end": "01:07:31", "text": "So, Wow. Wow. But what else? What else? That was the only real, right? There's"}, {"start": "01:07:31", "end": "01:07:39", "text": "the standby where something happens, you go. That was the only real spin up for a a true standby mission, which was, hey,"}, {"start": "01:07:39", "end": "01:07:44", "text": "you know, okay, boom, go fly away. do the jump package in. Um that was the"}, {"start": "01:07:44", "end": "01:07:50", "text": "only one of those I did during my time. Did you lost anybody throughout your"}, {"start": "01:07:50", "end": "01:07:55", "text": "career? A lot of anybody close. Um if if I go through the contact list"}, {"start": "01:07:55", "end": "01:08:01", "text": "of my phone Yeah. 43 names in my contact that are dead."}, {"start": "01:08:01", "end": "01:08:06", "text": "How many operational? Almost all. Almost all of them."}, {"start": "01:08:06", "end": "01:08:13", "text": "Yeah. Couple suicides, but yeah, almost all. Who was the first person that you lost in combat?"}, {"start": "01:08:13", "end": "01:08:20", "text": "Uh Mike Ko. It's in my green team class. Um then uh the Badger. There's a there's"}, {"start": "01:08:20", "end": "01:08:28", "text": "a list. All guys I went through green team with. Nope. No. Uh different squadrons. Um Red did pretty well,"}, {"start": "01:08:28", "end": "01:08:33", "text": "right? The squadron I was in. Um we dodged a lot of bullets in a lot of different situations, right? A lot of my"}, {"start": "01:08:33", "end": "01:08:40", "text": "friends in different squadrons, not so much. Um Yeah. Right. I mean, it's all fun and"}, {"start": "01:08:40", "end": "01:08:46", "text": "games and these deployments are great, but they're not the most safe and right. Uh,"}, {"start": "01:08:46", "end": "01:08:53", "text": "you get guys get zipped just about every deployment, every other deployment, right? Um,"}, {"start": "01:08:53", "end": "01:09:00", "text": "yeah, that that was talk about faith and and my journey."}, {"start": "01:09:00", "end": "01:09:06", "text": "um right from 9/11 through everything the all of basically the global war on"}, {"start": "01:09:06", "end": "01:09:16", "text": "terror I I saw a lot of it grow and change and I saw a lot of really good people not come home through it and uh"}, {"start": "01:09:16", "end": "01:09:23", "text": "and and that the way I dealt with that right without"}, {"start": "01:09:23", "end": "01:09:30", "text": "going crazy was I chocked it up as that was God's plan right I I knew that if I"}, {"start": "01:09:30", "end": "01:09:36", "text": "got shot in the face tomorrow going to work, that was it. That was God's plan. It was what it was. Um, I had done"}, {"start": "01:09:36", "end": "01:09:42", "text": "enough of these deployments, had seen enough of uh, you know, guys not coming home for one reason or another being bad"}, {"start": "01:09:42", "end": "01:09:48", "text": "luck or whatever. And so I uh,"}, {"start": "01:09:48", "end": "01:09:54", "text": "I think the more I dealt with the death, the closer I was with the with the God connection of like, okay, that justified"}, {"start": "01:09:54", "end": "01:10:01", "text": "it for me in some weird way. That was the piece, the band-aid I put on it in the moment to to chalk it up is okay."}, {"start": "01:10:01", "end": "01:10:07", "text": "Well, it is what it is and I got to get back to work. Interesting. So, you never really lost"}, {"start": "01:10:07", "end": "01:10:13", "text": "faith going, you know, within within the SEAL teams. I think a lot of I I lost most of my faith when I was"}, {"start": "01:10:13", "end": "01:10:19", "text": "challenged when I got out by our own government and that when I didn't understand it and I was confused and I"}, {"start": "01:10:19", "end": "01:10:26", "text": "didn't have a community and been cut off, right? when I was in dude, like how do you deal with death?"}, {"start": "01:10:26", "end": "01:10:32", "text": "Like you're the same job I did. You know the deal, right? It's part of the job. And and certainly you're going to keep"}, {"start": "01:10:32", "end": "01:10:38", "text": "deploying and do this for as long as I did if you're not if you're not absolutely comfortable with where you're"}, {"start": "01:10:38", "end": "01:10:43", "text": "going if you get shot in the face tomorrow night. Um maybe you're not going to be as good of an operator as"}, {"start": "01:10:43", "end": "01:10:50", "text": "you should be. Um and and so for me in those moments I always was was much more"}, {"start": "01:10:50", "end": "01:10:56", "text": "I tried to place my confidence in okay well that was I don't understand it but"}, {"start": "01:10:56", "end": "01:11:02", "text": "that is uh since I don't understand it somebody else must I'm hoping I'm"}, {"start": "01:11:02", "end": "01:11:07", "text": "betting on it and and and hopefully I'll have some some understanding of this at"}, {"start": "01:11:07", "end": "01:11:13", "text": "some point. Were you married during this time? Yeah. How is your wife handling the"}, {"start": "01:11:13", "end": "01:11:20", "text": "operational pace? I'm divorced. It's right. It's tough. Um before I got"}, {"start": "01:11:20", "end": "01:11:26", "text": "married, I was like, \"Hey, look, uh just so you know, if if work isn't my first priority, I'm probably not going to come"}, {"start": "01:11:26", "end": "01:11:32", "text": "home to deal with any of the other priorities you you and I may have.\" Um and so I was I was married for nine"}, {"start": "01:11:32", "end": "01:11:39", "text": "years, home for less than one. Both my kids were born uh three years"}, {"start": "01:11:39", "end": "01:11:44", "text": "and a week apart. So, I was clearly home on the same deployment cycle."}, {"start": "01:11:44", "end": "01:11:50", "text": "Um, divorce rates through the roof in the community, right? Uh, I think"}, {"start": "01:11:50", "end": "01:11:55", "text": "everybody does fine with, oh, your husband's in the nay or there could be stuff happened after extortion, right?"}, {"start": "01:11:55", "end": "01:12:01", "text": "Couple months after the bin Laden raid, everybody's on the high. Then extortion goes down. 22 friends in"}, {"start": "01:12:01", "end": "01:12:06", "text": "one night. You talk about, we call it pink squadron. That's the wives and"}, {"start": "01:12:06", "end": "01:12:12", "text": "girlfriends. And you want to talk about some some social pressure of it's time"}, {"start": "01:12:12", "end": "01:12:17", "text": "to retire, time to get out, time for you to move on. Think of that uh a the"}, {"start": "01:12:17", "end": "01:12:25", "text": "amount of loss. Think then the the pressure from the wives to the other husbands that are in"}, {"start": "01:12:25", "end": "01:12:30", "text": "the command. You know how many RPGs I've seen come by a ramp on my 47? A lot."}, {"start": "01:12:30", "end": "01:12:38", "text": "Every single one you're like, \"Oh man, glad that didn't hit.\" And then one hits. So, um, it puts it in perspective"}, {"start": "01:12:38", "end": "01:12:44", "text": "really quick, certainly for your loved ones. How about your kids?"}, {"start": "01:12:44", "end": "01:12:51", "text": "Too young to understand. How are you? How's your relationship with them now? Good. Because I got out, right? Um, I"}, {"start": "01:12:51", "end": "01:12:57", "text": "got out, they were young enough that, right, they they knew dad went on long trips. Those were deployments or short"}, {"start": "01:12:57", "end": "01:13:03", "text": "trips were training trips. Um, I've done the math. I never put them to bed for"}, {"start": "01:13:03", "end": "01:13:10", "text": "more than like 14 days in a row without another trip. [ __ ] Right. Never home more than about 14"}, {"start": "01:13:10", "end": "01:13:17", "text": "days for 14 years plus. Do you think that I mean this is it's"}, {"start": "01:13:17", "end": "01:13:23", "text": "I've done like 250 of these now at this point is"}, {"start": "01:13:23", "end": "01:13:30", "text": "at least 50% of these interviews have been military guys. Talk about the same things every single time. You know,"}, {"start": "01:13:30", "end": "01:13:37", "text": "there's there I mean, it's every every story is obviously unique to that individual, but I mean, the arc is is"}, {"start": "01:13:37", "end": "01:13:44", "text": "damn near the same every single time. I mean, what are what are some would it even be [ __ ] possible, especially at"}, {"start": "01:13:44", "end": "01:13:51", "text": "a in a command like that, you know, to where you can be home for more than 14 days in"}, {"start": "01:13:51", "end": "01:13:57", "text": "a row to put your kids down. You can be home for more than 14 days. There were those options. You you could"}, {"start": "01:13:57", "end": "01:14:04", "text": "raise your hand and say, \"Hey, I need to come off the speeding train.\" But think about it. There's only a handful of people on this job doing this job. And"}, {"start": "01:14:04", "end": "01:14:09", "text": "and the numbers are not good, right? The the year I left the SEAL teams, the SEAL"}, {"start": "01:14:09", "end": "01:14:15", "text": "community had a net gain of one new operator. So that's going that's what I'm I know that I know the operator the individual"}, {"start": "01:14:15", "end": "01:14:21", "text": "isn't going to be like, \"Hey guys, I need to take a break cuz I didn't get to put my kids down, you know, last week.\""}, {"start": "01:14:21", "end": "01:14:27", "text": "But I mean, when you see the I mean, you just said it, the [ __ ] net one. Net"}, {"start": "01:14:27", "end": "01:14:32", "text": "plus one that year. That's it. In the middle of of of the longest [ __ ] war"}, {"start": "01:14:32", "end": "01:14:38", "text": "that the US has ever been in, we got a [ __ ] net one. Plus one. And so what"}, {"start": "01:14:38", "end": "01:14:46", "text": "I'm what I'm kind of getting at, you know, somebody that that was over there and just, you know, my own career in the regular seal teams, which was you're"}, {"start": "01:14:46", "end": "01:14:53", "text": "still [ __ ] gone all the time and and you know, the retention sucks. People"}, {"start": "01:14:53", "end": "01:14:58", "text": "are getting out left and right. I mean, how how I guess you see what I'm getting at like it would have to come down from"}, {"start": "01:14:58", "end": "01:15:03", "text": "the top. Do you do you think there is a way"}, {"start": "01:15:03", "end": "01:15:09", "text": "for for the sake of retention that guys can give more time with family with their kids with their"}, {"start": "01:15:09", "end": "01:15:14", "text": "I'll give you an example I did right I never asked for anything the longest break I had in my career was selection"}, {"start": "01:15:14", "end": "01:15:20", "text": "and training to get into my former command that's not a break that's nine months of just"}, {"start": "01:15:20", "end": "01:15:25", "text": "kicked to the nuts that was my longest break right I did 13 straight tours"}, {"start": "01:15:25", "end": "01:15:32", "text": "raised my hand every time volunteer volunteer here at the end right post bin"}, {"start": "01:15:32", "end": "01:15:39", "text": "Laden mission hurt my neck I go to my Master Chief and I'm like hey Master Chief I need a break my family's"}, {"start": "01:15:39", "end": "01:15:46", "text": "imploding like medically something's wrong I can't drink a beer without my arms going numb something's off from the"}, {"start": "01:15:46", "end": "01:15:52", "text": "crash I don't know but something's off um look will you send me to go be a"}, {"start": "01:15:52", "end": "01:15:57", "text": "green team instructor or something so I can I can take a a wrap off for 18"}, {"start": "01:15:57", "end": "01:16:03", "text": "months. I'm like, look, I I'll even go I'll go get my master's degree. I'll pay out of my own dime, professional"}, {"start": "01:16:03", "end": "01:16:10", "text": "development, whatever. I just I need to be home. I need to do something for me. I'm getting divorced. Like, I I've got"}, {"start": "01:16:10", "end": "01:16:17", "text": "to I got to figure out how to slow down. He's like, \"Listen, I I've got to move somebody to this other squadron, and uh"}, {"start": "01:16:17", "end": "01:16:23", "text": "I got your name on that billet.\" I'm like, \"I know, but that's not a that's not a stay-at-home billet. That's a"}, {"start": "01:16:23", "end": "01:16:28", "text": "deployable billet.\" He's like, \"I know, but I I got to put somebody there and we we don't have enough people.\" and and I've got your name earmarked for that.\""}, {"start": "01:16:28", "end": "01:16:35", "text": "I'm like, \"Well, Master Chief, look, I'm I've never asked for anything. My family's melting. My neck is broken."}, {"start": "01:16:35", "end": "01:16:40", "text": "Like, I got some [ __ ] going on. I need to figure out. Can you please find"}, {"start": "01:16:40", "end": "01:16:46", "text": "something?\" He came back a week later was like, \"No, it's the only option you got.\" So, it's part of the reason I got"}, {"start": "01:16:46", "end": "01:16:54", "text": "out. [ __ ] man. So, so can it be fixed? I hope so. Right. Could it be fixed? I"}, {"start": "01:16:54", "end": "01:16:59", "text": "think so. Um, the priorities at the time were mission"}, {"start": "01:16:59", "end": "01:17:05", "text": "success, not Shawn Ryan's mental health, Matt Besonett's personal wealth and any"}, {"start": "01:17:05", "end": "01:17:11", "text": "of that. How do you think that worked out in the long term? You think that worked out and burn? You always take care of your"}, {"start": "01:17:11", "end": "01:17:19", "text": "people first. That's right. They didn't take care of their people, right? 911, I saw a lot of changes."}, {"start": "01:17:19", "end": "01:17:24", "text": "Lot of changes between here and here, right? I saw the tactics change. I saw"}, {"start": "01:17:24", "end": "01:17:30", "text": "the leadership change. I saw I saw by the time I got out, right, every every"}, {"start": "01:17:30", "end": "01:17:36", "text": "major officer I knew was writing themselves up for their own awards and and they were going to get promoted off"}, {"start": "01:17:36", "end": "01:17:42", "text": "the number of missions they ran, not off the number of bad guys they caught or doing the right thing. It was okay, number of missions, amount of awards,"}, {"start": "01:17:42", "end": "01:17:48", "text": "all this nonsense. And then I saw the rules of engagement slowly starting to change, right? Making things more"}, {"start": "01:17:48", "end": "01:17:54", "text": "dangerous for us, right? So you'd have the Admiral McCravens coming in saying, \"Okay, well you can't use your dogs"}, {"start": "01:17:54", "end": "01:18:00", "text": "anymore. You can't go at night.\" Like, \"Wait, wait a second. We we only go at night because it's safer to the force."}, {"start": "01:18:00", "end": "01:18:07", "text": "We bring our dogs cuz our dogs save our lives nightly.\" But now the leadership saying, \"Don't bring your dogs because"}, {"start": "01:18:07", "end": "01:18:12", "text": "the locals are complaining about dogs being unclean.\" What? What?"}, {"start": "01:18:12", "end": "01:18:19", "text": "Are you [ __ ] kidding me, brother? That was Admiral McCraven. that we had so many different officers and and"}, {"start": "01:18:19", "end": "01:18:25", "text": "congressional delegations, right? We'd have congressional delegations come over. They would ask us, \"Hey, are these"}, {"start": "01:18:25", "end": "01:18:30", "text": "new rules of engagement uh prohibitive? Costing you more danger on target?\" And"}, {"start": "01:18:30", "end": "01:18:36", "text": "our officers would be like, \"Nope, nope. All good.\" Our senior enlisted master chief, I can remember a master chief. I'm not going to name his name, but he"}, {"start": "01:18:36", "end": "01:18:42", "text": "stood up in the in the meeting with the congressional delegation and said, \"Well, well, with all due respect, I"}, {"start": "01:18:42", "end": "01:18:48", "text": "don't I don't believe what the officer over here is telling you. I'm the one going on the ground, and yes, it is"}, {"start": "01:18:48", "end": "01:18:55", "text": "making it more dangerous for us.\" Nobody was nobody was communicating those things. I I saw that slowly happening"}, {"start": "01:18:55", "end": "01:19:03", "text": "over and over and over as we're sent back to Iraq and Afghanistan, right? Risking our lives. Well, well, the"}, {"start": "01:19:03", "end": "01:19:10", "text": "leadership is making it harder and harder for us to do our mission. And all of that was adding up to part of the"}, {"start": "01:19:10", "end": "01:19:16", "text": "reason why I was like, I I'm I'm no longer signing my name on the dotted line to work for the idiots."}, {"start": "01:19:16", "end": "01:19:23", "text": "Yeah, man. I thought the leadership over a dev group was Oh, it has its strengths and weaknesses."}, {"start": "01:19:23", "end": "01:19:29", "text": "I'm not I'm not saying it's it's perfect. I'm not saying it's shitty, but I'm saying we've definitely had our less"}, {"start": "01:19:29", "end": "01:19:36", "text": "than stellar Right. Um when when when we get into talking about all the the book drama,"}, {"start": "01:19:36", "end": "01:19:42", "text": "right, when when that all hit, right, I reached out to my commanding officer"}, {"start": "01:19:42", "end": "01:19:48", "text": "that I had just left the squadron. I kn known him for eight years, right? I'm like, \"Sir, right, the only thing I've"}, {"start": "01:19:48", "end": "01:19:55", "text": "ever been taught if there's an issue, you communicate with leadership immediately.\" And that's exactly what I did. You know what that SEAL officer in"}, {"start": "01:19:55", "end": "01:20:00", "text": "charge of the SEAL community did? He replied, \"Delete me."}, {"start": "01:20:00", "end": "01:20:07", "text": "That's the only convers that's the only correspondence I've ever gotten from any leadership in the SEAL community since I"}, {"start": "01:20:07", "end": "01:20:14", "text": "wrote my book or or anything period. Wow. So, you want to talk about leadership issues? I I'd say the community has a"}, {"start": "01:20:14", "end": "01:20:21", "text": "few. Yeah. I'm not going to argue that. Jeez. All right. Well, let's move in. Let's"}, {"start": "01:20:21", "end": "01:20:27", "text": "let's go to the Bin Laden raid. Let's talk about when did I mean just from the when did"}, {"start": "01:20:27", "end": "01:20:32", "text": "that pop up on your guys' radar? We just got home from a deployment. They"}, {"start": "01:20:32", "end": "01:20:37", "text": "just got home from Afghanistan like eight days prior. They pulled 24 most"}, {"start": "01:20:37", "end": "01:20:43", "text": "senior of us in in the squadron and and and briefed us up. Hey, look, we we"}, {"start": "01:20:43", "end": "01:20:49", "text": "think we found him. We want you guys to plan the the ground assault option 8 days after deployment."}, {"start": "01:20:49", "end": "01:20:56", "text": "Yeah. Right after 8 10 days, something like that. Just come home. I should have been on leave. They pulled uh pulled us in"}, {"start": "01:20:56", "end": "01:21:02", "text": "from leave and uh pulled the 24 most senior in the squadron. So, did you have any idea that's what they"}, {"start": "01:21:02", "end": "01:21:09", "text": "were going to talk to you about? Um, no. No, I had no idea. And I actually had a medical appointment that"}, {"start": "01:21:09", "end": "01:21:15", "text": "I couldn't miss the morning that they were pulling these guys down to this other facility to read them in. And I'm"}, {"start": "01:21:15", "end": "01:21:20", "text": "like, \"Hey guys, I've got this medical thing at the doctor. I've set up, you know, is it cool if I miss this or do I"}, {"start": "01:21:20", "end": "01:21:25", "text": "need to miss the doctor's appointment to hit this brief?\" And they're like, \"No, you're good. just drive down when you're done. So, I I finished my appointment"}, {"start": "01:21:25", "end": "01:21:31", "text": "and drove down. And then when I showed up at the facility, they'd already given the guys the brief and said, \"Hey, look,"}, {"start": "01:21:31", "end": "01:21:39", "text": "we we think we found the guy. Um, we want you guys to plan the the ground assault option.\" And boom. So, then we"}, {"start": "01:21:39", "end": "01:21:45", "text": "got to work. How do you plan that? Just like we've done any other mission, right? Uh, the enlisted guys at the"}, {"start": "01:21:45", "end": "01:21:51", "text": "bottom who actually do it start coming up with the courses of action. Um, we're"}, {"start": "01:21:51", "end": "01:21:56", "text": "somewhat limited on on the way we could tactically action the target based off"}, {"start": "01:21:56", "end": "01:22:03", "text": "where it was. Right. In Afghanistan, we'd grown very comfortable with not flying the helicopter to the compound,"}, {"start": "01:22:03", "end": "01:22:08", "text": "right? Landing 20 km away and patrolling in. So, right, we're going to pick the"}, {"start": "01:22:08", "end": "01:22:16", "text": "lock on your door. We'll get you while you're sleeping. Um, don't wake up anybody in the neighborhood. That was that's much more of what we like to do."}, {"start": "01:22:16", "end": "01:22:23", "text": "Um but because of where his compound was in the city, the odds of us landing five"}, {"start": "01:22:23", "end": "01:22:28", "text": "kilometers away, patrolling through the city, remaining undetected was was low."}, {"start": "01:22:28", "end": "01:22:34", "text": "So had we been compromised on that patrol, right, he would have left the building. So So based off the the"}, {"start": "01:22:34", "end": "01:22:39", "text": "building, everything we were seeing, that drove us to say, \"Okay, well, let's let's go straight to the target.\" Mhm."}, {"start": "01:22:39", "end": "01:22:45", "text": "Fly the helicopters. And that that's where that plan was was started, right?"}, {"start": "01:22:45", "end": "01:22:51", "text": "know that you had those the new latest and greatest Blackhawks. I don't know anything about any"}, {"start": "01:22:51", "end": "01:22:56", "text": "the crazy Blackhawks. Okay, you could talk about them all you want,"}, {"start": "01:22:56", "end": "01:23:04", "text": "but I'm not saying anything. Did you know you were going to get fancy helicopters to fly in for the mission?"}, {"start": "01:23:04", "end": "01:23:09", "text": "Not immediately. Walt's not going to come after you anymore after this [ __ ] releases. I"}, {"start": "01:23:09", "end": "01:23:16", "text": "can't [ __ ] te you that or any of these other guys. But um so"}, {"start": "01:23:16", "end": "01:23:22", "text": "you had no idea when did the when did you have an idea those were coming? In the mission planning during the"}, {"start": "01:23:22", "end": "01:23:28", "text": "mission planning they told us about certain assets that we could use that"}, {"start": "01:23:28", "end": "01:23:35", "text": "had certain skills that we needed and so some some"}, {"start": "01:23:35", "end": "01:23:41", "text": "discussion whether we truly needed it or not and and ultimately it was yes. So,"}, {"start": "01:23:41", "end": "01:23:48", "text": "how long did you guys have to plan the the operation? Two weeks. Two weeks. Long as I've I've never I've never"}, {"start": "01:23:48", "end": "01:23:54", "text": "rehearsed for any mission, right? 13 deployments. Never rehearsed for a single mission. Every deployment,"}, {"start": "01:23:54", "end": "01:24:02", "text": "every go do your plan, brief the team, roll out the door, and go. The only mission I ever rehearsed for slipping."}, {"start": "01:24:02", "end": "01:24:08", "text": "No. Time we ever ever had time. How? So, can you talk about the about the two weeks from"}, {"start": "01:24:08", "end": "01:24:13", "text": "when you briefed to execution? I mean, what was the pace"}, {"start": "01:24:13", "end": "01:24:20", "text": "like? What was it? Came up with our plan and then just started started rehearsing our plan. Um, we had a mockup that we that we trained"}, {"start": "01:24:20", "end": "01:24:26", "text": "on. Um, but again, even even rehearsing on a"}, {"start": "01:24:26", "end": "01:24:32", "text": "mockup where you don't know the inside of it is kind of irrelevant, right? We knew kind of the outside layout and so"}, {"start": "01:24:32", "end": "01:24:39", "text": "you could you could go get a false sense of security running a running a dry run on a on a compound for time."}, {"start": "01:24:39", "end": "01:24:45", "text": "But if you don't know what's in the house and what's going to happen in the house, you're getting a false sense of security of oh, we ran this in 3"}, {"start": "01:24:45", "end": "01:24:52", "text": "minutes. We cleared it in 3 minutes, right? You're clearing a a structure with paper targets and with without any"}, {"start": "01:24:52", "end": "01:24:57", "text": "interference, right? Um so yeah, we we spent a week week or two"}, {"start": "01:24:57", "end": "01:25:04", "text": "doing that. went out to another state, did some more rehearsals with the helicopters, and then came back. I can"}, {"start": "01:25:04", "end": "01:25:11", "text": "remember um Is this like you wake up, rehearse all the way through the night, rehearse,"}, {"start": "01:25:11", "end": "01:25:17", "text": "just all hours of the day? Just rehears, night, day, night, and then when we weren't there, we'd we'd give the people"}, {"start": "01:25:17", "end": "01:25:23", "text": "like, \"Hey, can you update this on the mockup?\" They'd update it. We'd come back the next morning and hit it again or whatever, whatever it was. And just"}, {"start": "01:25:23", "end": "01:25:28", "text": "constant rehearsals. Um,"}, {"start": "01:25:28", "end": "01:25:34", "text": "yeah. What did it feel like to get that brief, especially not have no idea you're you"}, {"start": "01:25:34", "end": "01:25:39", "text": "come back from a medical appointment and it's look at your buddies, the 24 that"}, {"start": "01:25:39", "end": "01:25:46", "text": "are going on and they're like, \"Hey, we're [ __ ] hitting the number one guy.\" That doesn't get you excited."}, {"start": "01:25:46", "end": "01:25:52", "text": "Something's wrong. That's what I'm [ __ ] saying. Like, that's that's a You're like, \"Holy [ __ ]"}, {"start": "01:25:52", "end": "01:25:58", "text": "Let's go.\" Right. Um, I' I'd been involved in one other spin"}, {"start": "01:25:58", "end": "01:26:05", "text": "for Bin Laden years prior. Um, so this one felt much different, right? The one"}, {"start": "01:26:05", "end": "01:26:10", "text": "years prior, right? It was flowing right robes where we're were seen on ISR feed"}, {"start": "01:26:10", "end": "01:26:16", "text": "and he's coming back into Afghanistan to make his final, you know, take the fight to the Americans. And so it was this"}, {"start": "01:26:16", "end": "01:26:22", "text": "whole, it was a big [ __ ] show is what it was. All the officers, everybody wanted to get involved to be involved. It was"}, {"start": "01:26:22", "end": "01:26:27", "text": "the closest spin of any intel they'd ever had on Bin Laden. And so they just delayed, delayed, delayed. This big"}, {"start": "01:26:27", "end": "01:26:35", "text": "force got built. They flew in like B1 bombers from the States. They bombed the [ __ ] out of an empty hillside. Um,"}, {"start": "01:26:35", "end": "01:26:42", "text": "right. Like 3 days before they're going into the mission, right? They're going to take out Bin Laden. They send me and another guy over to Pakistan to do some"}, {"start": "01:26:42", "end": "01:26:48", "text": "stuff there. So I'm literally on the Pakistan side of the border dressed in Pakistani uniforms with a with a"}, {"start": "01:26:48", "end": "01:26:53", "text": "Pakistani element and my guys are on the other side of the border. They're dropping bombs on a whole bunch of empty"}, {"start": "01:26:53", "end": "01:26:59", "text": "mountains and you know two weeks later they're like, \"Okay, Bin Laden wasn't there.\" And they call us home. Random."}, {"start": "01:26:59", "end": "01:27:06", "text": "So that that was the previous spin. This one felt much different. This one was a lot more under the radar. It was quiet."}, {"start": "01:27:06", "end": "01:27:12", "text": "It was like, \"Okay, whoever lived there was significant, right? It was none of the intel that I saw was 100% proof"}, {"start": "01:27:12", "end": "01:27:18", "text": "positive. It was Bin Laden himself, but it was somebody significant. It's okay. Whoever lived there was going"}, {"start": "01:27:18", "end": "01:27:23", "text": "to have a bad night, but we would we would figure it out. Um,"}, {"start": "01:27:23", "end": "01:27:29", "text": "I remember in one of the intel manuals, right? I don't even know who put these"}, {"start": "01:27:29", "end": "01:27:35", "text": "together, but I'm breezing through it. The first couple days, like on page one or two, I see a statistic where it says"}, {"start": "01:27:35", "end": "01:27:41", "text": "you have up to a 70% chance being shot down on the Hilo ride in or the Hilo"}, {"start": "01:27:41", "end": "01:27:48", "text": "ride out. Wow. Not and I don't know who came up with that statistic. There was intel people at all levels throwing out"}, {"start": "01:27:48", "end": "01:27:54", "text": "different numbers and statistics, but I'm like, I'm not a numbers guy here, but 70% that's that's just the Hilo ride. That's"}, {"start": "01:27:54", "end": "01:28:00", "text": "not dealing with the guys with the guns once you're there. Mhm. Um, did you guys think it was a suicide"}, {"start": "01:28:00", "end": "01:28:05", "text": "mission? I I've never thought any of my missions"}, {"start": "01:28:05", "end": "01:28:10", "text": "were a suicide mission. I refused to think that way, right? I don't care what"}, {"start": "01:28:10", "end": "01:28:16", "text": "who. I'm not I'm not allowing myself. It's like my buddy and Buds who every morning was like, \"Fuck this. I'm"}, {"start": "01:28:16", "end": "01:28:23", "text": "quitting.\" I'm like, \"I can't allow my mind to go there cuz I'd actually quit.\" So, I'm like, \"I'm I'm not going to allow my mind to go anywhere other than"}, {"start": "01:28:23", "end": "01:28:28", "text": "we're going to move through this target and figure it out.\" Mhm. What was Can you Can you run"}, {"start": "01:28:28", "end": "01:28:33", "text": "through the plan of what you guys developed for the night that it happened?"}, {"start": "01:28:33", "end": "01:28:40", "text": "And then we'll I love my Mike Tyson quote, right? Somebody interviewed Tyson after a fight. They're like, \"Mike, didn't you have a plan going into tonight's fight?\""}, {"start": "01:28:40", "end": "01:28:46", "text": "And he looks at the reporter like, \"Yeah, everybody has a plan till you get punched in the face.\" I love that quote,"}, {"start": "01:28:46", "end": "01:28:53", "text": "right? We had a great plan. Super simple, like we did in Baghdad. Top down, bottom up, right? We're going to squish them in the main house. That was"}, {"start": "01:28:53", "end": "01:29:00", "text": "the plan. Pretty straightforward. Um, we got punched in the face as soon as we got there, right? Um, these helicopters,"}, {"start": "01:29:00", "end": "01:29:05", "text": "helicopter pilots are amazing, right? I I cannot say enough good about them."}, {"start": "01:29:05", "end": "01:29:11", "text": "Rehearsals, everything. Perfect. Everything to the second. I'm uh I'm sitting in the left door of"}, {"start": "01:29:11", "end": "01:29:17", "text": "the helicopter, right? I'm going to be the first one out. Chalk one on the left side. My buddy's on the other side. Um,"}, {"start": "01:29:17", "end": "01:29:23", "text": "right. Ropes hooked to the hilo. 40 ft up. We come to a hover. It feels like 4"}, {"start": "01:29:23", "end": "01:29:29", "text": "hours. It's probably two seconds and and immediately the helicopter goes 90 and"}, {"start": "01:29:29", "end": "01:29:36", "text": "starts going in. I'm sitting in this door. [ __ ] Um helicopters crash very"}, {"start": "01:29:36", "end": "01:29:41", "text": "ugly, right? A plane maybe can come skdding in. My little chicken legs are"}, {"start": "01:29:41", "end": "01:29:48", "text": "hanging out the side of the helicopter and we're going in this way to the side. Um buddy of mine's holding me in. I'm"}, {"start": "01:29:48", "end": "01:29:54", "text": "literally falling out of the side of the helicopter as we come in and we hit. Um,"}, {"start": "01:29:54", "end": "01:29:59", "text": "nothing goes boom. Clear out your shorts. Whatever you need to do to get get back in the game."}, {"start": "01:29:59", "end": "01:30:07", "text": "Holy [ __ ] Um, man, the the way we hung up on the wall, right? The helicopter propped up"}, {"start": "01:30:07", "end": "01:30:13", "text": "against the wall. There's a a wheel on the back section of a Blackhawk. And that wheel is the only load bearing for"}, {"start": "01:30:13", "end": "01:30:19", "text": "the back half of the helicopter. That wheel landed on the wall."}, {"start": "01:30:19", "end": "01:30:26", "text": "Right? Had that wheel been 10 inches this way or 10 inches this way, tail section would have broke. I wouldn't be here. Right? The uh the height of the"}, {"start": "01:30:26", "end": "01:30:32", "text": "wall was 10 feet. Our helicopter hit. If you watch the Zero Dark 30 movie, the main rotor hits the ground, comes"}, {"start": "01:30:32", "end": "01:30:39", "text": "snapping off. That did not happen. Right. We hit. I jump out this door and"}, {"start": "01:30:39", "end": "01:30:45", "text": "run away. You turn around and look, and the main rotors are still turning. They're within about a foot of hitting"}, {"start": "01:30:45", "end": "01:30:50", "text": "the ground. You want to talk about the big guy, right? When your time's up, your time is"}, {"start": "01:30:50", "end": "01:30:56", "text": "up. And it was not our time. Inches. Inches. Damn."}, {"start": "01:30:56", "end": "01:31:02", "text": "Landed perfectly. Helicopter didn't roll. Main rotor blades didn't snap off."}, {"start": "01:31:02", "end": "01:31:07", "text": "Nothing. 40 ft up. You tell me how that happened."}, {"start": "01:31:07", "end": "01:31:14", "text": "Why did the helicopter crash? Great question. Okay. So,"}, {"start": "01:31:14", "end": "01:31:20", "text": "do you know what was happening in Washington DC the day before the mission"}, {"start": "01:31:20", "end": "01:31:26", "text": "that the president would have wanted to be at? I don't remember a White House"}, {"start": "01:31:26", "end": "01:31:32", "text": "correspondence dinner. So, the day we had originally planned to launch our mission was was the day"}, {"start": "01:31:32", "end": "01:31:40", "text": "before we actually went, right? It was a weekend zero aloom. So, good good time to go. president got involved was like,"}, {"start": "01:31:40", "end": "01:31:48", "text": "\"Hey, can you guys push this one day to the right? Can we push to the right? Want to hit my dinner?\" Okay. So, so we"}, {"start": "01:31:48", "end": "01:31:54", "text": "we moved the op to the right. No, not not me. It was well above my pay grade. The op was moved to the right. The next"}, {"start": "01:31:54", "end": "01:32:01", "text": "day, the temperature was roughly 8\u00b0 warmer than the day prior. You know how"}, {"start": "01:32:01", "end": "01:32:07", "text": "weight temperature affects density, altitude, how a bullet flies over a mile, it affects how much lift a"}, {"start": "01:32:07", "end": "01:32:13", "text": "helicopter can have. So hypothetically, if hypothetically if our because I'm not"}, {"start": "01:32:13", "end": "01:32:21", "text": "speaking in real terms of weights, right? The uh if our helicopter could carry say 1,000 lb, say we were at 800"}, {"start": "01:32:21", "end": "01:32:28", "text": "lb of load, that's fine. We operate within those margins, normal. the next day, 8 degrees warmer"}, {"start": "01:32:28", "end": "01:32:35", "text": "temperature. We didn't have the lift. So, what I've been told is we got into the to the target area, our our pilot"}, {"start": "01:32:35", "end": "01:32:41", "text": "was at full throttle and we settled with power cuz he didn't have enough ass to"}, {"start": "01:32:41", "end": "01:32:46", "text": "keep the helicopter in the air. So, why did we crash? Because the President"}, {"start": "01:32:46", "end": "01:32:52", "text": "Obama needed to hit the White House correspondents dinner. You've got to be [ __ ] kidding me."}, {"start": "01:32:52", "end": "01:32:58", "text": "That's a portion of it. Wow."}, {"start": "01:32:58", "end": "01:33:02", "text": "Unfucking believable, man."}, {"start": "01:33:04", "end": "01:33:11", "text": "The the only political shots I take in in uh No Easy Day, right? I I make two"}, {"start": "01:33:11", "end": "01:33:18", "text": "political shots because I I hate all politicians. Um Biden, right? He was VP at the time. We meet him after the raid"}, {"start": "01:33:18", "end": "01:33:23", "text": "and and he's like literally handsy like trying to rub guys shoulders and like tell them bad jokes in their ears. Like"}, {"start": "01:33:23", "end": "01:33:28", "text": "you're we're not teenage girls with ice cream here, dude. Like come on. He's like, \"Who's the drunk uncle that showed"}, {"start": "01:33:28", "end": "01:33:35", "text": "up at Thanksgiving?\" Like, \"Oh, that's the vice president.\" Like, \"Okay, that makes sense.\" Oh [ __ ] And then and then Obama Obama was great,"}, {"start": "01:33:35", "end": "01:33:41", "text": "right? Super smooth. We we all stood up there, got our photo with him, you know,"}, {"start": "01:33:41", "end": "01:33:48", "text": "uh gave a great speech, and then he invites us all to the White House, to the residence for a beer."}, {"start": "01:33:48", "end": "01:33:55", "text": "Okay, I'm very apolitical, but if a sitting president invites me and my team that just risked our lives for whatever"}, {"start": "01:33:55", "end": "01:34:01", "text": "to the White House to have a beer with the sitting president, you go, right? You're going to go, right? He invites"}, {"start": "01:34:01", "end": "01:34:08", "text": "the freaking women's World Cup soccer team, whatever. Like, everybody goes to the White House. Here's a sitting president inviting us to the White House"}, {"start": "01:34:08", "end": "01:34:13", "text": "for a beer right after we probably got him reelected. Do you think he ever followed up with"}, {"start": "01:34:13", "end": "01:34:18", "text": "that invite? Probably not. Nope. And so I put I bet you voted for"}, {"start": "01:34:18", "end": "01:34:24", "text": "change, too. Like that's my only oneliner in the book of like, yeah, I bet if you're still waiting for Obama to"}, {"start": "01:34:24", "end": "01:34:31", "text": "invite you to the White House for a beer, I know you just risked your life for him and and you probably got him reelected. He invited you for a beer,"}, {"start": "01:34:31", "end": "01:34:38", "text": "but you think he's ever going to follow up with that? No. Wow. Not surprising though. Not surprising."}, {"start": "01:34:38", "end": "01:34:44", "text": "So, uh, yeah, all my buddies are jumping out the other side of the helicopter and going to work. And I'm like, they're going to [ __ ] make fun of me later if"}, {"start": "01:34:44", "end": "01:34:51", "text": "they see me over in the corner. So, I couldn't run around the front of the helicopter. The main rotor blades are still turning. I literally had to run down along the wall underneath. There"}, {"start": "01:34:51", "end": "01:34:57", "text": "was like three or four of us on our side, but we all ran underneath the helicopter, joined with the team, and"}, {"start": "01:34:57", "end": "01:35:02", "text": "breached one gate, and we were back in the original compound that we would have fast roped into, but about a minute"}, {"start": "01:35:02", "end": "01:35:10", "text": "delay. So our plan had gone sideways, right? Our plan was top down, bottom up. Plan"}, {"start": "01:35:10", "end": "01:35:16", "text": "had gone completely sideways. We crashed into the compound. Second helicopter, there was no radio call between dash one"}, {"start": "01:35:16", "end": "01:35:22", "text": "and dash2 that we'd gone in. Were you going to be on the top or on the bottom? We were we were fast roping 40 ft down"}, {"start": "01:35:22", "end": "01:35:28", "text": "into the compound. My team was clearing and securing uh one of the southern buildings and then we'd all wrap into"}, {"start": "01:35:28", "end": "01:35:36", "text": "the bottom floor and go up. Chalk two was supposed to go to the roof and work down. As Chalk 2 came into a hover,"}, {"start": "01:35:36", "end": "01:35:44", "text": "right? You're flying a really expensive helicopter, looking through toilet paper tubes, night vision, right? Um, and that"}, {"start": "01:35:44", "end": "01:35:50", "text": "pilot looks and he happens to see we've got a parked helicopter in the compound. He doesn't know if we've been shot down,"}, {"start": "01:35:50", "end": "01:36:00", "text": "a mechanical, what's going on. He just knows there's a parked helicopter in the compound. Mhm. So, um, he makes probably the best"}, {"start": "01:36:00", "end": "01:36:06", "text": "decision of the night that nobody will ever talk about, right? He could have pushed a bad position, tried to do the game plan and land on the roof. The odds"}, {"start": "01:36:06", "end": "01:36:11", "text": "are he would have crashed. Why do you say that? Well, I'll explain why we"}, {"start": "01:36:11", "end": "01:36:18", "text": "crashed. Our hover was at 40 ft. The compound was mostly 50 ft, right? That second helicopter would have hold a"}, {"start": "01:36:18", "end": "01:36:25", "text": "hover with the same weight at 15 ft higher. If we couldn't hold a hover at 40 feet, there was no way Chalk 2 was"}, {"start": "01:36:25", "end": "01:36:31", "text": "going to be able to hold a hover at 60 ft and and lip land to let his crew off onto the roof. The odds are they would"}, {"start": "01:36:31", "end": "01:36:37", "text": "have crashed. So that pilot immediately sees says, \"Okay, I'm going to do the"}, {"start": "01:36:37", "end": "01:36:43", "text": "safe safe thing.\" And he hovers his helicopter outside the compound into a field across the street and lands them"}, {"start": "01:36:43", "end": "01:36:48", "text": "out there. They thought they were going to the roof. Now they're outside the compound outside the wall in a field"}, {"start": "01:36:48", "end": "01:36:55", "text": "across the street. [ __ ] So yeah, we ran. Somebody ran to the"}, {"start": "01:36:55", "end": "01:36:59", "text": "door, let them in."}, {"start": "01:37:00", "end": "01:37:05", "text": "We track sleep, fine-tune our macros, and try to chase every bio hack. But"}, {"start": "01:37:05", "end": "01:37:12", "text": "real performance starts deep at the cellular level. Armor colostrum is nature's original superfood. Colostrum"}, {"start": "01:37:12", "end": "01:37:20", "text": "is packed with over 400 bioactive nutrients that help fortify gut health, help strengthen immune health, help fuel"}, {"start": "01:37:20", "end": "01:37:25", "text": "performance, and more. Let's face it, today's world throws a lot at your body."}, {"start": "01:37:25", "end": "01:37:30", "text": "Toxins, processed foods, stress, and immune disruptors are everywhere. That's"}, {"start": "01:37:30", "end": "01:37:35", "text": "why I started using Armora Colostrum, and I feel lighter, clearer, and better"}, {"start": "01:37:35", "end": "01:37:42", "text": "than ever. Whether you're chasing a finish line, rebalancing your wellness, or aiming to feel amazing, Armor of"}, {"start": "01:37:42", "end": "01:37:49", "text": "Colostrum helps you operate at your highest level because your body deserves the same optimization as your lifestyle."}, {"start": "01:37:49", "end": "01:37:57", "text": "We've worked out a special offer for my audience. Receive 30% off your first subscription order. Go to armor.com/srs"}, {"start": "01:37:57", "end": "01:38:05", "text": "or enter SRS to get 30% off your first subscription order. That's a rmr.com/srs."}, {"start": "01:38:05", "end": "01:38:11", "text": "These statements and products have not been evaluated by the FDA. These products are not intended to diagnose,"}, {"start": "01:38:11", "end": "01:38:17", "text": "treat, cure, or prevent any disease or condition. These statements and information are not a substitute for, or"}, {"start": "01:38:17", "end": "01:38:23", "text": "alternative to seeking care from your health care providers."}, {"start": "01:38:24", "end": "01:38:29", "text": "You pay for the internet, but the internet cashes in on you. Data brokers"}, {"start": "01:38:29", "end": "01:38:36", "text": "rake in billions selling your private information, and you don't even get a say. your most personal details turned"}, {"start": "01:38:36", "end": "01:38:43", "text": "into their business, all without your permission. But Aura helps you take back control of your personal data. They can"}, {"start": "01:38:43", "end": "01:38:51", "text": "help remove your private details from broker sites and keep it off. Aura also alerts you fast if your information"}, {"start": "01:38:51", "end": "01:38:58", "text": "shows up in a breach or in the dark web. With anti virus protection and a password manager, Aura covers it all."}, {"start": "01:38:58", "end": "01:39:04", "text": "Plus, if your identity is ever stolen, you're backed up by up to $5 million in"}, {"start": "01:39:04", "end": "01:39:09", "text": "insurance and 24/7 US-based fraud support to help you recover quickly."}, {"start": "01:39:09", "end": "01:39:15", "text": "Right now, you can try Aura for free for 14 days when you visit orura.com/srs."}, {"start": "01:39:15", "end": "01:39:22", "text": "That is enough time for Aura to start removing your personal information from databroker sites. Sign up today at"}, {"start": "01:39:22", "end": "01:39:28", "text": "orura.com/srs and get the peace of mind that your privacy, identity, and finances are"}, {"start": "01:39:28", "end": "01:39:35", "text": "safeguarded. That's a.com/srs. Certain terms apply. See the site for"}, {"start": "01:39:35", "end": "01:39:42", "text": "details. All right, Matt, we're back from the break. We had just left off."}, {"start": "01:39:42", "end": "01:39:48", "text": "Hilo crashed. The other one landed outside the compound. I think you guys are getting ready to link up."}, {"start": "01:39:48", "end": "01:39:54", "text": "Yep. Um my team was tasked with securing this"}, {"start": "01:39:54", "end": "01:40:00", "text": "this building to the south of the compound was one of the other he had bin Lan had two facilitators that that lived"}, {"start": "01:40:00", "end": "01:40:08", "text": "in the compound and one of them lived in this southern little building inside the compound. So my team was tasked with"}, {"start": "01:40:08", "end": "01:40:15", "text": "that while the rest headed to the first floor of the main building. the uh we got to the door of the little"}, {"start": "01:40:15", "end": "01:40:21", "text": "little southern building. Door was locked. I know we'd made a little noise crash in our helicopters, but we're"}, {"start": "01:40:21", "end": "01:40:27", "text": "professionals here, right? We didn't want to make too much noise if we didn't have to. So, my uh my buddy uh that was"}, {"start": "01:40:27", "end": "01:40:34", "text": "there with me carried a sledgehammer, right? He starts banging on this metal door trying to get it to open up. And it's it's not going to open. So, okay,"}, {"start": "01:40:34", "end": "01:40:40", "text": "we're not going to spend five minutes banging on this thing. We got to get in. So, I was going to use my my explosives."}, {"start": "01:40:40", "end": "01:40:46", "text": "I commented, \"One of the first times I ever got shot at was through a door.\" Right. I've had that happen multiple"}, {"start": "01:40:46", "end": "01:40:53", "text": "times now. Um, we just crashed into their compound. We just beat on their front door with a sledgehammer. The last"}, {"start": "01:40:53", "end": "01:41:00", "text": "thing I'm going to do is stand in front of their door setting my charge there. So, I literally got on my knee as low as"}, {"start": "01:41:00", "end": "01:41:05", "text": "I could setting my charge. And as I'm setting my charge, just above me, AK-47"}, {"start": "01:41:05", "end": "01:41:11", "text": "through the door. Holy [ __ ] Are you serious? Um, wow. I picked up a little bit of frag in my"}, {"start": "01:41:11", "end": "01:41:17", "text": "shoulder. Nothing crazy, but I carry a set of bolt cutters on and a pouch on my back, right? Each handle can kind of"}, {"start": "01:41:17", "end": "01:41:22", "text": "come up. I can pull it out, cut my little bolt cutter set up. We got back from the mission, I was going through my"}, {"start": "01:41:22", "end": "01:41:29", "text": "stuff, there's a bullet stuck in the handle. Are you serious? So, we we got lucky with the crash. We"}, {"start": "01:41:29", "end": "01:41:34", "text": "got lucky with 30 seconds later at the door. Um, myself and my partner return"}, {"start": "01:41:34", "end": "01:41:40", "text": "fire through the door blindly and everything goes quiet. Wow."}, {"start": "01:41:40", "end": "01:41:45", "text": "All right, I got to go back up. I got to get my charge on the door. I got to clap this thing off. We got to get in here,"}, {"start": "01:41:45", "end": "01:41:52", "text": "right? We got to time time's ticking. Um, my buddy spoke Arabic, right? So, he"}, {"start": "01:41:52", "end": "01:41:59", "text": "starts calling into the house in Arabic. And I swear to God, not 5 seconds go by and you hear the metal latch on the door"}, {"start": "01:41:59", "end": "01:42:05", "text": "inside and they're getting ready to come out. Like, why didn't we try this when we got here? This would have been way simpler,"}, {"start": "01:42:05", "end": "01:42:11", "text": "right? Just come on out, guys. Door opens up. It's a female holding a baby, two kids behind her, her husband laying"}, {"start": "01:42:11", "end": "01:42:17", "text": "dead just inside the door. Perfect Arabic to my buddy. You killed him. He is dead."}, {"start": "01:42:17", "end": "01:42:23", "text": "Talking about her husband. Wow. Um, pulled her out, right? The women and"}, {"start": "01:42:23", "end": "01:42:29", "text": "kids away. Cleared the guns, cleared all the the area, left them there, left the dead guy there, and then we rolled into"}, {"start": "01:42:29", "end": "01:42:35", "text": "the the main house. While all that was going on, did you guys know where he was going to"}, {"start": "01:42:35", "end": "01:42:41", "text": "be? Who? Bin Laden. The assessment was assessed that he most"}, {"start": "01:42:41", "end": "01:42:48", "text": "likely lived on the third floor of the compound. Assessed, right? Assessed was Khaled, his son, lived on the second"}, {"start": "01:42:48", "end": "01:42:53", "text": "floor and another facilitator on the first and another facilitator in this out building."}, {"start": "01:42:53", "end": "01:42:59", "text": "That was that was the layown of what they assessed. Um, right. Right. The"}, {"start": "01:42:59", "end": "01:43:04", "text": "guys from Chalk 2 had landed outside the wall. They came and got let in the compound. Now everybody's hitting the"}, {"start": "01:43:04", "end": "01:43:11", "text": "the bottom of the main house. Right. Are you guys hitting the main house simultaneously or did you want one door on the house? The way the"}, {"start": "01:43:11", "end": "01:43:19", "text": "house was rigged, it had had multiple doors to go in, but it had been configured on the inside to secure the"}, {"start": "01:43:19", "end": "01:43:25", "text": "stairwell going up. Right. And we got in one side of the house and there's a reinforced metal door at the bottom of"}, {"start": "01:43:25", "end": "01:43:31", "text": "the stairs. Sean may be hiding somebody upstairs if you have a reinforced metal door at the"}, {"start": "01:43:31", "end": "01:43:37", "text": "bottom of your staircase. Right? Maybe a sign that you're hiding somebody upstairs."}, {"start": "01:43:37", "end": "01:43:43", "text": "Right? So, all of these things you're thinking through. You're like, \"Okay, shots fired at the first building."}, {"start": "01:43:43", "end": "01:43:49", "text": "They're they want to get jiggy, right? We've got uh reinforced metal doors at the bottom of their stairs."}, {"start": "01:43:49", "end": "01:43:54", "text": "That's odd.\" Right? Couple charges and that went away. Uh no power."}, {"start": "01:43:54", "end": "01:44:00", "text": "Pitch black. good night vision. It's not like you see in the movies with, you know, team America here to kick your ass"}, {"start": "01:44:00", "end": "01:44:07", "text": "and clear left, clear right, right, where we're very calmly and quietly clearing the space."}, {"start": "01:44:07", "end": "01:44:14", "text": "Um, got up to the second floor. There had been a adult male and his wife engaged"}, {"start": "01:44:14", "end": "01:44:20", "text": "on the first floor. um in the stairs up to the second floor."}, {"start": "01:44:20", "end": "01:44:27", "text": "What I remember, right, seal in front of me, it just shot Khaled up the stairs,"}, {"start": "01:44:27", "end": "01:44:33", "text": "right? Khaled was bin Laden's son. We that we'd been told we think Khaled lives on the second floor. We're"}, {"start": "01:44:33", "end": "01:44:39", "text": "literally standing on the second floor. There's set a ladder stairs to go up to a landing and up. A little head pops"}, {"start": "01:44:39", "end": "01:44:46", "text": "down looking at us on the ceiling. How did he Did he hear you guys? He had to have, right? I mean, the"}, {"start": "01:44:46", "end": "01:44:52", "text": "anybody inside the house had plenty of time to wake up. They heard helicopters hovering, helicopters crash. They'd"}, {"start": "01:44:52", "end": "01:44:59", "text": "heard muffled gunfire, some explosions, right? Ex outside buildings, first floor of the main building, and then now we're"}, {"start": "01:44:59", "end": "01:45:05", "text": "in the house. So, they had had more than enough time to go to assume there's"}, {"start": "01:45:05", "end": "01:45:10", "text": "somebody here. That's Is it true that somebody yelled to"}, {"start": "01:45:10", "end": "01:45:16", "text": "Khaled in Arabic, he came out and then was popped. Didn't yell, whispered. It's the sexiest"}, {"start": "01:45:16", "end": "01:45:22", "text": "move I ever saw in the SEAL teams. Whispered Khaled's name. You're on the"}, {"start": "01:45:22", "end": "01:45:29", "text": "second floor. You see a head peek down the land, peek down the wall, look down at us, try and see who's down there."}, {"start": "01:45:29", "end": "01:45:36", "text": "Couldn't couldn't tell. It's right. It's pitch black. We're quiet. We're not Hey, it's America. None of that. And uh that"}, {"start": "01:45:36", "end": "01:45:42", "text": "same seal right sat right next to me in the Hilo crash right um in front of me"}, {"start": "01:45:42", "end": "01:45:47", "text": "on the stairs and he literally whispers Khaled's name."}, {"start": "01:45:47", "end": "01:45:53", "text": "Khaled. Khaled. Khaled had heard gunfire, all this stuff. Then he hears"}, {"start": "01:45:53", "end": "01:45:58", "text": "somebody whispering his name. Not yelling it, nothing aggressive. Peaks"}, {"start": "01:45:58", "end": "01:46:04", "text": "around the corner and gets popped in the head. Holy [ __ ] Falls down. rolls down"}, {"start": "01:46:04", "end": "01:46:11", "text": "a couple sets of stairs. AK-47, right? He was literally right around the corner of the the stairwell with an"}, {"start": "01:46:11", "end": "01:46:18", "text": "AK-47. Had we made our way up the stairs, all right, he would have popped the point man point blank as we rounded"}, {"start": "01:46:18", "end": "01:46:26", "text": "the corner. Uh maybe the rest of us, more importantly, he would have slowed our assault down, right? We'd given"}, {"start": "01:46:26", "end": "01:46:32", "text": "ourselves 30 minutes on target with a 10-minute window to spare. And uh yeah,"}, {"start": "01:46:32", "end": "01:46:37", "text": "had he stood at the top of the stairs shooting down, that would have slowed our assault up the stairs. I've I've had"}, {"start": "01:46:37", "end": "01:46:43", "text": "to I had to assault years ago. Uh there was a guy at top of stairs shooting down"}, {"start": "01:46:43", "end": "01:46:49", "text": "at us and literally we threw a whole bunch of hand grenades up the stairs and then ran up right behind him. Um it's"}, {"start": "01:46:49", "end": "01:46:55", "text": "not not the prettiest way to assault a fixed position. Yeah. Um, so thankfully, right, from a"}, {"start": "01:46:55", "end": "01:47:01", "text": "from a historical move standpoint, that was epic."}, {"start": "01:47:01", "end": "01:47:07", "text": "Was that rehearsed or that just [ __ ] happened like on the ground? Pull it out in the midst of stress and"}, {"start": "01:47:07", "end": "01:47:14", "text": "pressure and send it. And that is what I love. Damn, that's amazing. Like that's just Come on. Who think I"}, {"start": "01:47:14", "end": "01:47:20", "text": "wouldn't have thought of that? Did you say anything? No, I wouldn't have thought of any of that. That was [ __ ] genius."}, {"start": "01:47:20", "end": "01:47:26", "text": "I didn't think of any of that. Wow. But you got to think right now. You just you just heard some guy answer to"}, {"start": "01:47:26", "end": "01:47:32", "text": "the name Khaled, right? We've heard all the guys downstairs got guns, right? I"}, {"start": "01:47:32", "end": "01:47:40", "text": "got shot out at the first floor. So, okay, whoever is in this house is putting up a fight and trying to hide,"}, {"start": "01:47:40", "end": "01:47:46", "text": "right? So, so, okay, significant. At least chalk that up in the back of your mind as you're moving through the target"}, {"start": "01:47:46", "end": "01:47:52", "text": "that okay, maybe the intel folks are correct for once, right? There was a ton of different intel people involved in"}, {"start": "01:47:52", "end": "01:47:58", "text": "this. The girl from the Zero Dark 30 movie, she was always 100%, right? She wasn't a hot redhead, but she was always"}, {"start": "01:47:58", "end": "01:48:04", "text": "100%. Um, there was other intel people we had there. Some of them be 50%, 70."}, {"start": "01:48:04", "end": "01:48:10", "text": "She was always 100%. Um, so yeah, you're thinking, okay, all"}, {"start": "01:48:10", "end": "01:48:15", "text": "these little pieces, these are all little signs that are adding up in the back of your head. Step over Khaled and"}, {"start": "01:48:15", "end": "01:48:22", "text": "and head up to the third floor. How much did you how much interaction did you guys have with the woman?"}, {"start": "01:48:22", "end": "01:48:27", "text": "The CIA check? Yeah, tons. Tons. She was there when she briefed us in. She I sat next to her on"}, {"start": "01:48:27", "end": "01:48:34", "text": "the flight over. Um the the movie does a great job portraying how like feisty"}, {"start": "01:48:34", "end": "01:48:40", "text": "smart she is. She's wicked smart. Um yeah, I'll leave it at that. All right,"}, {"start": "01:48:40", "end": "01:48:46", "text": "so you're moving up to the third deck. Third floor. Point man in front of me again. Same guy."}, {"start": "01:48:46", "end": "01:48:52", "text": "Same guy. Same guy. whispered lead. Um, head pops out the door at the top. Point"}, {"start": "01:48:52", "end": "01:48:59", "text": "man takes a couple shots and the head disappears into the room. We don't uh right, we kind of skipped"}, {"start": "01:48:59", "end": "01:49:06", "text": "over my my my 13 deployments, right? One of the one of the biggest things that we had learned and evolved through was"}, {"start": "01:49:06", "end": "01:49:11", "text": "right the the tactics we were taught uh CQB, right? It's hostage rescue"}, {"start": "01:49:11", "end": "01:49:17", "text": "clearance when you're in a building, right? It's all about speed. Well,"}, {"start": "01:49:17", "end": "01:49:23", "text": "over time, we were were using these old school hostage rescue tactics to assault"}, {"start": "01:49:23", "end": "01:49:29", "text": "buildings where there was no hostages in, right? So, so why do we need to throw a flash crash in the room and then"}, {"start": "01:49:29", "end": "01:49:36", "text": "immediately run in here and do our clear left, clear right, you know, old school CQB stuff when there's no hostage in"}, {"start": "01:49:36", "end": "01:49:41", "text": "here? Wouldn't it be much safer to stay at the door of the room and like pie the"}, {"start": "01:49:41", "end": "01:49:48", "text": "whole door from the space where you're much safer and less chance of getting shot back? So, we we had started uh"}, {"start": "01:49:48", "end": "01:49:53", "text": "evolving our tactics, right? It was no longer hostage rescue clearance. It was"}, {"start": "01:49:53", "end": "01:49:59", "text": "combat clearance and combat clearance were slower, much more methodical. There was no reason to just run in the room"}, {"start": "01:49:59", "end": "01:50:05", "text": "and and clear things. So, makes a hell of a lot of sense, right? much safer and and and trust me,"}, {"start": "01:50:05", "end": "01:50:11", "text": "the the the swamp in the uh in the community didn't want to evolve to those tactics, but"}, {"start": "01:50:11", "end": "01:50:17", "text": "over time it was it was saving lives nightly by not rushing into the room,"}, {"start": "01:50:17", "end": "01:50:23", "text": "right? Um who do you call the swamp of the teams? I'm just curious."}, {"start": "01:50:23", "end": "01:50:30", "text": "Any any of the old school guys that are still there? I mean, are they are is the swamp at Dev"}, {"start": "01:50:30", "end": "01:50:37", "text": "Group as well? There's a swamp everywhere. Yeah. Okay. I think there's swamp or just the So there there's I mean I mean that's"}, {"start": "01:50:37", "end": "01:50:43", "text": "where all the that's where all the teams tactics come from is from development group. I mean I"}, {"start": "01:50:43", "end": "01:50:50", "text": "well at least when I was in when we went when you go to a salt cell all of that come it just comes down from you guys."}, {"start": "01:50:50", "end": "01:50:56", "text": "And so I mean it just just [ __ ] shame to hear that there"}, {"start": "01:50:56", "end": "01:51:01", "text": "are people over there that are delaying. Not everybody, but any organization,"}, {"start": "01:51:01", "end": "01:51:07", "text": "there's there's the old school guys in the organization that don't want to change, right? And and they want to do things"}, {"start": "01:51:07", "end": "01:51:12", "text": "the way they've always done it, and what they've always done is fine, and that's that's fine by them. No judgment. I I'm"}, {"start": "01:51:12", "end": "01:51:18", "text": "somebody who likes to evolve and adapt, and and when there's people dying because of a tactic, I I really think we"}, {"start": "01:51:18", "end": "01:51:23", "text": "should evolve that tactic, right? I would share that sentiment. Kind of makes common sense."}, {"start": "01:51:23", "end": "01:51:29", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Where did that change come? Where did compl combat clearance come from? Was that was that"}, {"start": "01:51:29", "end": "01:51:35", "text": "guys like me and and other operators that were operating and we just continually go to our leadership, right?"}, {"start": "01:51:35", "end": "01:51:42", "text": "I did eight years at the command and you're you're just deploying deploying deploying and so I wasn't a senior guy"}, {"start": "01:51:42", "end": "01:51:47", "text": "yet kind of middle management and so I mean it's just so different than you know it's completely different than"}, {"start": "01:51:47", "end": "01:51:53", "text": "everything that I've been trained. I've never done combat clearance. I was out before that got to, you know, the"}, {"start": "01:51:53", "end": "01:52:00", "text": "vanilla side. But one of the missions we did with the with my army counterparts, right? And a a"}, {"start": "01:52:00", "end": "01:52:06", "text": "good seal friend of mine was right there when it happened, right? They blew the door. As soon as the breach goes, you"}, {"start": "01:52:06", "end": "01:52:14", "text": "run in, right? First four guys, fourman entry, right? Breach, first four. First three went in. They had a sandbag bunkered PKM"}, {"start": "01:52:14", "end": "01:52:20", "text": "at the end of the hallway. Just so everybody ran right into the PKM bullets. Mhm."}, {"start": "01:52:20", "end": "01:52:26", "text": "Right. My buddy, I won't mention his name, but he was literally standing there at the door and all three fell"}, {"start": "01:52:26", "end": "01:52:31", "text": "right in front of him. [ __ ] man. Right. So, you tell me how many times you need to be like, \"Hey guys, it's"}, {"start": "01:52:31", "end": "01:52:36", "text": "this tactic of like blowing the door and running in. If there's not a hostage in"}, {"start": "01:52:36", "end": "01:52:44", "text": "there that we need to save, why are we taking that risk to force?\" Yeah. Simple question. So, we had we had"}, {"start": "01:52:44", "end": "01:52:50", "text": "evolved to that, right? So, so this the bin Laden mission, we knew there was no hostages, right? They're not holding"}, {"start": "01:52:50", "end": "01:52:56", "text": "somebody on the third floor. So, so there was no reason to be to rush,"}, {"start": "01:52:56", "end": "01:53:03", "text": "right, to to do the old school tactics of run into the room. Mhm. And so, um, cleared to the door of the"}, {"start": "01:53:03", "end": "01:53:09", "text": "room, looked in, and he's basically twitching at the foot of his bed. There's two women in the room."}, {"start": "01:53:09", "end": "01:53:14", "text": "Bin Laden's just twitching at the foot of his bed. Head shot from the guy coming up the stairs."}, {"start": "01:53:14", "end": "01:53:19", "text": "There's two women standing there in the room, right? Um, so is he still alive or is this just"}, {"start": "01:53:19", "end": "01:53:27", "text": "nerves? It's pretty pretty pretty twitchy. I'd say he's done headsh shot. Um,"}, {"start": "01:53:27", "end": "01:53:33", "text": "cover the head shot, right? We didn't want to shoot him in the face. Nobody wanted to. We wanted the photo, right?"}, {"start": "01:53:33", "end": "01:53:38", "text": "Um, the rules of engagement were capture or kill, right? None of this was go in"}, {"start": "01:53:38", "end": "01:53:43", "text": "and kill everybody. I've I've never been on a mission in the SEAL teams where they said go in and kill everybody."}, {"start": "01:53:43", "end": "01:53:48", "text": "Never. It's always capture or kill. And we had 30 different lawyers show up and"}, {"start": "01:53:48", "end": "01:53:54", "text": "brief us on this. Um, why was he engaged while we were coming up the stairs?"}, {"start": "01:53:54", "end": "01:54:00", "text": "Because the only thing he exposed was a head. Stuck his head out the door to look at the guy coming up the stairs and"}, {"start": "01:54:00", "end": "01:54:06", "text": "was engaged. Um, within the rules of engagement for that point man. Why?"}, {"start": "01:54:06", "end": "01:54:12", "text": "Because he could have produced a gun around the corner. Right. Khaled down the stairs had had a gun in hand. Guy in"}, {"start": "01:54:12", "end": "01:54:17", "text": "the first room I cleared had a gun in hand. So third floor had more time to set up a defense than anybody on the"}, {"start": "01:54:17", "end": "01:54:23", "text": "second and the first and everybody else had got a gun on the first and second. Mhm. So for the point man to think, okay, Bin"}, {"start": "01:54:23", "end": "01:54:29", "text": "Laden's armed well within the rules of engagement, we'd been briefed. Part of the, you know, the intel packages was,"}, {"start": "01:54:29", "end": "01:54:35", "text": "hey, they have the house rigged to blow or they're all wearing s vests and when you get in there, they'll martyr"}, {"start": "01:54:35", "end": "01:54:42", "text": "themselves and kill you guys, too. So again, rules of engagement. Point man coming up the stairs only sees the head."}, {"start": "01:54:42", "end": "01:54:50", "text": "well within the rules of engagement to take that shot. Now he's laying the foot of his bed. Two women in the room,"}, {"start": "01:54:50", "end": "01:54:57", "text": "right? Same point man grabs the two chicks and pushes them back against the far wall. Um,"}, {"start": "01:54:57", "end": "01:55:04", "text": "right. Had they had a vest on or something, he would have taken the the brunt. Uh, turns out they didn't push"}, {"start": "01:55:04", "end": "01:55:13", "text": "him back against the far wall and and that's basically target secure, right? We finished clearing the third floor."}, {"start": "01:55:13", "end": "01:55:18", "text": "It's okay. Um, question the women and kids, right? Trying to get a name for"}, {"start": "01:55:18", "end": "01:55:24", "text": "the for the guy. Uh, the women gave us an alias. Did you shoot Bin Laden"}, {"start": "01:55:24", "end": "01:55:30", "text": "on the ground? Yes, you did. Yep. How many times? Couple."}, {"start": "01:55:30", "end": "01:55:36", "text": "Where at? The body. And the body."}, {"start": "01:55:36", "end": "01:55:43", "text": "How did that feel? Don't [ __ ] tell me like, \"Ah, just doing the job.\" a [ __ ] You just"}, {"start": "01:55:43", "end": "01:55:50", "text": "[ __ ] killed you shot. I've never said I killed Bin Laden. I'm I'm correcting myself. You shot him"}, {"start": "01:55:50", "end": "01:55:57", "text": "as he was twitching at the [ __ ] edge of his bed. And you didn't I don't know what that counts for, but"}, {"start": "01:55:57", "end": "01:56:02", "text": "come on. You didn't feel anything. No sense of"}, {"start": "01:56:02", "end": "01:56:09", "text": "accomplishment, retribution. This guy [ __ ] had a long way to get home still, right? We I think"}, {"start": "01:56:09", "end": "01:56:16", "text": "everybody was still very focused on Okay. Right. We're we're we've got one Hilo down, right? Let's think big"}, {"start": "01:56:16", "end": "01:56:23", "text": "picture here. Where we are in this situation. Yeah. We got knucklehead down. But did you know it was him?"}, {"start": "01:56:23", "end": "01:56:29", "text": "Man, looking at him, it looked like him, right? The women gave us an alias. The kids confirmed it. We went back to the"}, {"start": "01:56:29", "end": "01:56:35", "text": "women. The women them confirmed it. We all carried photos of him, right? And all the photos we carried, his beard was"}, {"start": "01:56:35", "end": "01:56:40", "text": "gray and his little had gray hair. I searched his bathroom on the shelf just"}, {"start": "01:56:40", "end": "01:56:46", "text": "above his sink just for men hair dye. Get the [ __ ] out of here."}, {"start": "01:56:46", "end": "01:56:51", "text": "Are you serious? Been dying his beard. That's why his beard's pitch black in all the photos."}, {"start": "01:56:51", "end": "01:56:57", "text": "Oh [ __ ] So, uh, yeah. Right. We got a Hilo down. We got a lot of stuff going"}, {"start": "01:56:57", "end": "01:57:04", "text": "on. We're very far from home, right? You got an hour and a half hilo ride into a country that's that's got surfaceto-air"}, {"start": "01:57:04", "end": "01:57:11", "text": "missiles and they're way different than what's going on in Afghanistan. And so, okay, we got to clock's ticking. 30"}, {"start": "01:57:11", "end": "01:57:17", "text": "minutes on target. So, uh um I started taking the photos. Uh a"}, {"start": "01:57:17", "end": "01:57:23", "text": "buddy of mine was there. We we literally he had a camel back. He took the hose of his camel back, dripped water on his"}, {"start": "01:57:23", "end": "01:57:28", "text": "face. We took the sheets off his bed, washed all the blood off his face. Um, I"}, {"start": "01:57:28", "end": "01:57:35", "text": "had bought I was the supply guy, so I bought everybody in the squadron digital cameras, right? Because we knew, right,"}, {"start": "01:57:35", "end": "01:57:41", "text": "if I if we had the body going out in our helicopter and then we got shot down on the way out, how do you have proof on"}, {"start": "01:57:41", "end": "01:57:47", "text": "your helicopter? Right? So, did multiple digital cameras taking photos, uh, DNA"}, {"start": "01:57:47", "end": "01:57:53", "text": "samples, different hilos, and then, uh, and then they were like, \"All right, you guys bag him up.\" So, we we had the"}, {"start": "01:57:53", "end": "01:57:59", "text": "body. Um, drug him down the stairs by his feet."}, {"start": "01:57:59", "end": "01:58:08", "text": "Nice. Right. I I can shut my eyes and I can remember the sound of his hollow skull"}, {"start": "01:58:08", "end": "01:58:14", "text": "bouncing down the stairs as we drug him down. Drug him over his son's dead body"}, {"start": "01:58:14", "end": "01:58:21", "text": "down to the first floor and shoved him in a body bag. Nice. Um,"}, {"start": "01:58:21", "end": "01:58:26", "text": "at that point, right, uh, officers getting on the horn saying, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "01:58:26", "end": "01:58:32", "text": "confirmed. We've got them.\" They're, uh, our EOD guys. We had one EOD guy on the"}, {"start": "01:58:32", "end": "01:58:39", "text": "mission. He starts running around. He gets on, somebody gets on the radio, says, \"Hey, prep it to blow.\" So, our EOD guy starts running around the house"}, {"start": "01:58:39", "end": "01:58:45", "text": "setting thermal barrack charges in all these rooms. What are you doing? He's like, \"Well, they said, \"Prep it to"}, {"start": "01:58:45", "end": "01:58:51", "text": "blow.\" Like, the house? I'm pretty sure they're talking about the helicopter. He's like, \"What helicopter?\" Like, \"Dude, you need to go look in the car"}, {"start": "01:58:51", "end": "01:58:57", "text": "courtyard.\" We had crashed so quickly. There was no radio call between Chalk One and Chalk 2 that we'd gone in."}, {"start": "01:58:57", "end": "01:59:05", "text": "The whole target gets complete. And then some of the people in Chalk 2 found out that we had crashed in the assault. They"}, {"start": "01:59:05", "end": "01:59:13", "text": "did not know. We were everything was happening so quickly that that that hadn't been communicated."}, {"start": "01:59:13", "end": "01:59:20", "text": "Um, so our EOD guy grabs his thermal bear charges, right? Runs out to the Hilo, starts rigging that to blow. Uh,"}, {"start": "01:59:20", "end": "01:59:26", "text": "we're moving all the women and kids around the compound to safety. We're doing the 30 minute or 30 second"}, {"start": "01:59:26", "end": "01:59:32", "text": "shopping spree at Walmart, whatever, you know, running around grabbing anything we could. Um, thumb drives, computers,"}, {"start": "01:59:32", "end": "01:59:37", "text": "anything you can find. Um, I remember our Master Chief getting on the horn be"}, {"start": "01:59:37", "end": "01:59:43", "text": "like, \"Exfill the building now.\" like no more. Hey, two minutes like everybody"}, {"start": "01:59:43", "end": "01:59:49", "text": "out now. Wrapped everything up. I remember running out of the building. I'm"}, {"start": "01:59:49", "end": "01:59:54", "text": "carrying a whole bunch of stuff and I look over and it's the most uncomfortable weird thing you've ever seen. These helicopter pilots that are"}, {"start": "01:59:54", "end": "02:00:00", "text": "never on the ground and they've got these big like aviator helmets, these big black dark helmets and there's like"}, {"start": "02:00:00", "end": "02:00:06", "text": "two pilots and two crew chief and somebody had handed them suitcases of like intel. So they're their big helmet."}, {"start": "02:00:06", "end": "02:00:12", "text": "They're looking around, no guns. They've got suitcases. I'm like, \"Come on, guys. Let's go.\" Um,"}, {"start": "02:00:12", "end": "02:00:19", "text": "pulled them out. Uh, we were down a helicopter, right? So, leadership called one remaining. We had"}, {"start": "02:00:19", "end": "02:00:26", "text": "two backup CH47s with backup SEALs and backup fuel. One of the CH47s flew into"}, {"start": "02:00:26", "end": "02:00:32", "text": "the compound, right? Um, landed, picked up the other guys since since we had the"}, {"start": "02:00:32", "end": "02:00:41", "text": "body, they sent my team out on the one remaining Blackhawk. So, we uh Hilo lands. We go booking out"}, {"start": "02:00:41", "end": "02:00:48", "text": "through this field carrying the body bag, get to the Hilo, throw the body in. We jump in and I may be a little"}, {"start": "02:00:48", "end": "02:00:54", "text": "sensitive cuz I've already been in one helicopter crash that night and the whole cockpit is flashing red."}, {"start": "02:00:54", "end": "02:01:01", "text": "Oh [ __ ] Whole thing's flashing red. I'm like, I I don't know what that means, but I don't think that's healthy. Right. Um"}, {"start": "02:01:01", "end": "02:01:07", "text": "it's our gas gauges. So, we've given ourselves 30 minutes on target with 10 minutes to spare. When I lifted off,"}, {"start": "02:01:07", "end": "02:01:15", "text": "we're at 38 minutes. So, we were running on fumes. Our helicopter still had to fly 8 10 minutes"}, {"start": "02:01:15", "end": "02:01:22", "text": "to our other refueling helicopter. We landed. We got gas, right? Uh, everybody"}, {"start": "02:01:22", "end": "02:01:28", "text": "thinks it was the 24 SEALs that pulled this off. There's some army refueler out there who joined the army to refuel"}, {"start": "02:01:28", "end": "02:01:35", "text": "helicopters, right? Not be Delta Force or anything crazy to refuel helicopters, probably for college GI Bill. And that"}, {"start": "02:01:35", "end": "02:01:41", "text": "night that army kid refueled us up. Right? None of us would be back if it weren't for the army kid who refueled"}, {"start": "02:01:41", "end": "02:01:46", "text": "us. We got gas for 20 minutes. Right now we've we've blown up our helicopter. So"}, {"start": "02:01:46", "end": "02:01:53", "text": "now all the radars are coming up. Right. Everybody's looking in Pakistan for what's going on. And and you know you"}, {"start": "02:01:53", "end": "02:01:58", "text": "still have a hour hour and a half hilo ride to the border. Wow man."}, {"start": "02:01:58", "end": "02:02:04", "text": "So sat on his body the whole way. cleared uh cleared into Afghanistan,"}, {"start": "02:02:04", "end": "02:02:11", "text": "landed, turned over the body to to McCraven and the crew, and then we we all flew up to"}, {"start": "02:02:11", "end": "02:02:17", "text": "Bram. Turn over the body. We were all still in our uniform when President Obama came in"}, {"start": "02:02:17", "end": "02:02:23", "text": "and gave his whole spiel on the TV. Like, we're literally watching Obama. The bodies laying right there. Let's"}, {"start": "02:02:23", "end": "02:02:30", "text": "keep going with the de. There's a lot that's about to come out that's important in in the debrief on items"}, {"start": "02:02:30", "end": "02:02:37", "text": "that were kept. I mean, this is all rolling into what you really want to talk about. So, I just be as descriptive as you can."}, {"start": "02:02:37", "end": "02:02:42", "text": "Yeah. I mean, we we did our debrief and and that was it, right? Um"}, {"start": "02:02:42", "end": "02:02:49", "text": "did our debrief, flew home. On the way home, they're like, \"Guys, really good job tonight. You get two"}, {"start": "02:02:49", "end": "02:02:56", "text": "days off.\" Like, what? We showed up at the We landed back at the beach, right? Uh,"}, {"start": "02:02:56", "end": "02:03:03", "text": "nobody ever meets you when you come home from deployment, but half the command was standing there with pizza and beer and of course the Navy bus. Get on the"}, {"start": "02:03:03", "end": "02:03:10", "text": "Navy bus back to the base. Um, that's why was why was Bin Laden's body thrown"}, {"start": "02:03:10", "end": "02:03:15", "text": "into the ocean? I don't know who made that decision. It was somebody way above my pay grade. I"}, {"start": "02:03:15", "end": "02:03:21", "text": "agree with it. I like it. Um, you agree with it? Yeah. Why? We turned over the body to some army counterparts, some army"}, {"start": "02:03:21", "end": "02:03:27", "text": "rangers, and they're the ones who flew it all the way out to the carrier and and dumped it. I like it cuz it's uh"}, {"start": "02:03:27", "end": "02:03:33", "text": "there's no shrine, no memorial. He's just simply gone. There's nobody even Al Qaeda has not said, \"Hey, he's still"}, {"start": "02:03:33", "end": "02:03:40", "text": "alive and we've got him.\" Like prove you've got him. He's gone. Done. Erased,"}, {"start": "02:03:40", "end": "02:03:45", "text": "deleted, never to be seen again. Right on. I I I kind of like that. Right. If there"}, {"start": "02:03:45", "end": "02:03:51", "text": "was some memorial, you know, shrine to where they buried him, maybe that would"}, {"start": "02:03:51", "end": "02:03:57", "text": "be a little different. I don't know. Makes sense. But it also created a lot of conspiracy"}, {"start": "02:03:57", "end": "02:04:02", "text": "theories, but you know, government's got the photos. They can"}, {"start": "02:04:02", "end": "02:04:08", "text": "release them. They can do whatever they want. Was that that photo that there was a photo that was circulating around that"}, {"start": "02:04:08", "end": "02:04:13", "text": "was [ __ ] You didn't take that photo. All right. All right. All the all Yeah. any of the stuff"}, {"start": "02:04:13", "end": "02:04:17", "text": "online is not accurate at all."}, {"start": "02:04:18", "end": "02:04:24", "text": "So, we were talking about, you know, the the Hilo ride back where you had to"}, {"start": "02:04:24", "end": "02:04:30", "text": "think about you got to think about putting a bullet in Bin Laden."}, {"start": "02:04:30", "end": "02:04:35", "text": "Now, I think everybody processed it when we landed in Bram, right? We landed in"}, {"start": "02:04:35", "end": "02:04:41", "text": "Bram. We did our debrief and and then we left the hanger, right? Downloaded all"}, {"start": "02:04:41", "end": "02:04:47", "text": "our gear. like we were flying back a couple hours later. So, literally download debrief download. Okay, all"}, {"start": "02:04:47", "end": "02:04:53", "text": "that was done and we had a couple hours and and we went to some of the some of"}, {"start": "02:04:53", "end": "02:04:59", "text": "the old area that we could hang out at Bram um and hung out there and there was some TVs that guys were turning on and"}, {"start": "02:04:59", "end": "02:05:06", "text": "that's where the story was breaking in the states, right? Like Bin Laden had gi or Obama had given his spiel, right?"}, {"start": "02:05:06", "end": "02:05:12", "text": "There's the stuff university guy universities going crazy. There was some like ticker tape at like a baseball game or something. all these things were were"}, {"start": "02:05:12", "end": "02:05:18", "text": "breaking and and I would say that was the first time everybody sat in the room"}, {"start": "02:05:18", "end": "02:05:22", "text": "and was like,"}, {"start": "02:05:25", "end": "02:05:31", "text": "take a breath. I hadn't had a chance to do that until then, right? We still getting back. We"}, {"start": "02:05:31", "end": "02:05:38", "text": "still had something to do. We just got done. Like now it's out. Only thing you're waiting for is a plane ride home"}, {"start": "02:05:38", "end": "02:05:43", "text": "and you got a couple hours to kill. and we all went into like this area and just"}, {"start": "02:05:43", "end": "02:05:50", "text": "hung out, watched some TV until like, \"All right, guys, plane's ready.\" And then we we hopped the flight. They uh"}, {"start": "02:05:50", "end": "02:05:57", "text": "you know, you typically stop in Germany. We air to air, refueled on the way home, flew all the way back to the beach, landed, and good job, guys. Two days"}, {"start": "02:05:57", "end": "02:06:02", "text": "off. I went to work both days cuz what what do you do when the world has just"}, {"start": "02:06:02", "end": "02:06:09", "text": "exploded in such a way, right? And what? You're going to go hang out at home and feel like you're normal? No way."}, {"start": "02:06:09", "end": "02:06:15", "text": "Everybody showed up at work, right? I I see one of my good friends. I went through green team with him. Spent eight"}, {"start": "02:06:15", "end": "02:06:20", "text": "years. I saw him more than I saw my family, right? I see him the day after"}, {"start": "02:06:20", "end": "02:06:27", "text": "two days after the mission in our cage area at the command. I'm like, \"Hey, Pat, are you he looks at"}, {"start": "02:06:27", "end": "02:06:32", "text": "me, he's like, \"Hey, man. Can I ask you a question?\" \"Yeah, what do you got, dude?\" He looks around, makes sure"}, {"start": "02:06:32", "end": "02:06:39", "text": "nobody else is there, and he's like, \"Hey, are you sleeping?\" like, \"Fuck no, I'm not sleeping. I"}, {"start": "02:06:39", "end": "02:06:44", "text": "haven't slept in days.\" He's like, \"Okay, all right, good. I feel normal.\""}, {"start": "02:06:44", "end": "02:06:51", "text": "That That was the single most emotional conversation I ever had with any teammate in 14 years."}, {"start": "02:06:51", "end": "02:06:56", "text": "No [ __ ] That was it. Are you sleeping? Nobody ever got No, nobody talked about it."}, {"start": "02:06:56", "end": "02:07:03", "text": "Nobody talked about mental health or how you were doing. There was none of that. It was um So that was that was 2 days after the"}, {"start": "02:07:03", "end": "02:07:11", "text": "mission. One of my best friends like, \"Hey, man. are you sleeping cuz I'm not like [ __ ] no I'm not sleeping he's like okay good I feel normal too"}, {"start": "02:07:11", "end": "02:07:16", "text": "[ __ ] man it was a lot it was a lot crazy right and the media just hypes it up and makes"}, {"start": "02:07:16", "end": "02:07:22", "text": "it want to be crazier and it was us just doing yes it was a very historical significant event I get it"}, {"start": "02:07:22", "end": "02:07:28", "text": "I'm more proud of the Captain Phillips stuff and I wasn't even one of the shooters right we saved somebody not just killed a whole bunch of knuckleheads I I get that bin Laden's a"}, {"start": "02:07:28", "end": "02:07:35", "text": "significant figure I'm not knocking it but it was Um,"}, {"start": "02:07:35", "end": "02:07:42", "text": "yeah, it was a lot. It's a lot. All the all the stuff Seals training gives you, right? We can go snipers, shoot, you"}, {"start": "02:07:42", "end": "02:07:49", "text": "know, homemade bombs, all the all the stuff we've been trained to do. Not one second. And hey, what do you do if your"}, {"start": "02:07:49", "end": "02:07:55", "text": "friend gets shot in the face? What do you do if you do a bin Laden mission and it's it's [ __ ] you up at home and you"}, {"start": "02:07:55", "end": "02:08:02", "text": "can't sleep? Nothing. So, yeah, that's tough. Damn, man. I"}, {"start": "02:08:02", "end": "02:08:09", "text": "mean, if if you're always going to revert to your training, Yeah. in a bad situation, there was no training to revert to. It was just, man,"}, {"start": "02:08:09", "end": "02:08:16", "text": "the the the right from my first deployment to that"}, {"start": "02:08:16", "end": "02:08:22", "text": "lots of missions in between and right, what do you how are you"}, {"start": "02:08:22", "end": "02:08:32", "text": "evolving, adapting, what was changing in between that? I saw it all change, man. I saw from the beginning to the end. Um,"}, {"start": "02:08:32", "end": "02:08:37", "text": "yeah. Yeah, it was tough. Not not any of that, not any section, not any second in"}, {"start": "02:08:37", "end": "02:08:44", "text": "there was any leadership ever worrying about the individual operator."}, {"start": "02:08:44", "end": "02:08:49", "text": "Brand new, everybody was excited to be there, right? Okay. Eighth deployment, ninth deployment, 10th deployment."}, {"start": "02:08:49", "end": "02:08:56", "text": "Nobody was ever checking in like, \"Hey, Sean, are you okay?\" Yeah. Another three, 12 divorces in the squadron last"}, {"start": "02:08:56", "end": "02:09:02", "text": "year. Your family okay? Nobody ever asked that. Nobody once ever said should, hey, your family okay? Your kids"}, {"start": "02:09:02", "end": "02:09:09", "text": "okay? Are you home enough? No way. And then if you did mention, hey, I got some stuff going on at home. It's like, oh"}, {"start": "02:09:09", "end": "02:09:17", "text": "boy, we're losing this. So it was uh the the expectation"}, {"start": "02:09:17", "end": "02:09:23", "text": "and the pressure certainly at at my former command grew and grew and grew"}, {"start": "02:09:23", "end": "02:09:30", "text": "and with the success of Captain Phillips and then with the success of Bin Laden all of this the expectation was okay"}, {"start": "02:09:30", "end": "02:09:36", "text": "you're going to be fine and if I'm the officer in charge we're going to do all this great stuff I'm going to look good"}, {"start": "02:09:36", "end": "02:09:42", "text": "and I don't have to worry about the side effect it's having on my crew. Um"}, {"start": "02:09:42", "end": "02:09:49", "text": "but yeah, the the and then shortly after the bin Lan raid and all the high of that, we had extortion"}, {"start": "02:09:49", "end": "02:09:55", "text": "and you want to talk about a gut punch, right? Um"}, {"start": "02:09:56", "end": "02:10:02", "text": "that was crushing. How long after the braid was extortion? What? August. Uh May to August."}, {"start": "02:10:02", "end": "02:10:12", "text": "Couple of months. Yeah. Heavy heavy heavy heavy. Um,"}, {"start": "02:10:12", "end": "02:10:17", "text": "and yeah, I mean that that was kind of one of the final straws for me, right? I knew my enlistment was coming up in"}, {"start": "02:10:17", "end": "02:10:23", "text": "December. Um, I had been talking about I didn't like"}, {"start": "02:10:23", "end": "02:10:28", "text": "the the decisions being made in in Afghanistan, taking away our dogs, saying no night missions, all this"}, {"start": "02:10:28", "end": "02:10:34", "text": "nonsense. I had I had joined and stayed in because"}, {"start": "02:10:34", "end": "02:10:41", "text": "of 9/11 and I did all these deployments and I saw all this change happening throughout this stretch. And as the"}, {"start": "02:10:41", "end": "02:10:46", "text": "longer I stayed in, the more I saw our our leadership, right, was was promoted"}, {"start": "02:10:46", "end": "02:10:52", "text": "based off writing their own awards and the number of missions they ran, not how they took care of their guys or evolved"}, {"start": "02:10:52", "end": "02:10:59", "text": "what we were doing. Right? Name a name a general or an admiral in Afghanistan who"}, {"start": "02:10:59", "end": "02:11:04", "text": "said the the way we were doing it was wrong and"}, {"start": "02:11:04", "end": "02:11:10", "text": "survived. There aren't any. There's not one. There's no leadership in our"}, {"start": "02:11:10", "end": "02:11:16", "text": "military who said, \"Hey, the approach we have in Afghanistan is wrong. We should be doing this.\" No, you're relieved and"}, {"start": "02:11:16", "end": "02:11:23", "text": "we're going to bring in another yes man to to deliver my policy of what I want you to do. And so I I just kept seeing more and more of that."}, {"start": "02:11:23", "end": "02:11:30", "text": "Um and and yeah, I knew I knew that uh the"}, {"start": "02:11:30", "end": "02:11:36", "text": "leadership uh whether Panetta, Admiral McCraven, President Obama, all"}, {"start": "02:11:36", "end": "02:11:45", "text": "giving interviews and all their stuff for their own hype. Um and and that's that's what"}, {"start": "02:11:45", "end": "02:11:51", "text": "finally hit me and that's disgusted you. Yeah. What was McGraven's position at the time?"}, {"start": "02:11:51", "end": "02:11:57", "text": "I don't care about that guy. I could give two shits about McCraven. Was he I mean, what was he though?"}, {"start": "02:11:57", "end": "02:12:05", "text": "He was uh commander of JOK. He was the JC commander. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know,"}, {"start": "02:12:08", "end": "02:12:13", "text": "I'll just put it this way. McCraven was at the command years ago, right before"}, {"start": "02:12:13", "end": "02:12:18", "text": "he was the commanding officer. He was not wellliked at all. Everybody always"}, {"start": "02:12:18", "end": "02:12:27", "text": "saw him as a horrible boss. At least from my level, my perspective only. Um,"}, {"start": "02:12:27", "end": "02:12:34", "text": "he gave it when he left the squadron, he he he like had this big plaque made that hung in the team room for years."}, {"start": "02:12:34", "end": "02:12:40", "text": "Years later, he becomes the position he was in. Nobody liked him. Nobody liked the"}, {"start": "02:12:40", "end": "02:12:47", "text": "position he was in. He was very involved in trying to take away the dogs and the night missions and all the stuff that helped keep us safe on these very"}, {"start": "02:12:47", "end": "02:12:55", "text": "dangerous missions. So I I may or may not have been there when his plaque was removed from the team room wall. We cut"}, {"start": "02:12:55", "end": "02:13:00", "text": "it in half. We shipped it overseas to uh a forward operating base in Afghanistan"}, {"start": "02:13:00", "end": "02:13:06", "text": "that we were working out of and we burnt it in the fire pit."}, {"start": "02:13:09", "end": "02:13:15", "text": "Now, uh, we can we can keep going with the McRaven references here because I'm I'm not a fan, right? You know, I I"}, {"start": "02:13:15", "end": "02:13:21", "text": "wrote No Easy Day, right? Hold on. Before we get there, I'm just We'll get there. I know. I know. We got"}, {"start": "02:13:21", "end": "02:13:28", "text": "a lot to cover there. Just want to re rewind just a little bit. You know, when you How long was it after"}, {"start": "02:13:28", "end": "02:13:36", "text": "the Bin Laden raid when you just you were you left the Navy? The raid was in May. I got out in"}, {"start": "02:13:36", "end": "02:13:42", "text": "December. End of December. January 1st. So on to terminal leave. Seven months."}, {"start": "02:13:42", "end": "02:13:49", "text": "When did you decide you were getting out? How long how fast did you know this is it?"}, {"start": "02:13:49", "end": "02:13:55", "text": "I'd been talking about getting out before my last deploy. We I told you we came home from the last deployment and 10 days later we were spinning up on the"}, {"start": "02:13:55", "end": "02:14:02", "text": "Bin Laden thing. So um I'd been talking to a lot of my guys on that deployment cuz that deployment had slowed down. All"}, {"start": "02:14:02", "end": "02:14:08", "text": "the new rules were kicking in that were making it more dangerous for us. and and I as somebody who'd been there this"}, {"start": "02:14:08", "end": "02:14:14", "text": "whole time was looking at this I'm like this is this doesn't seem right like we're going backwards here and and I was"}, {"start": "02:14:14", "end": "02:14:21", "text": "getting very frustrated with how we were going backwards. I' I'd lived through the beginning. I'd seen all the ups and downs and here we were at the end and I"}, {"start": "02:14:21", "end": "02:14:26", "text": "felt like we were going backwards. Right? I was I was not an officer. I was an enlisted guy who stayed there and"}, {"start": "02:14:26", "end": "02:14:33", "text": "operated the entire time. Right? Our officers bounce in and out and in and out and back and forth. I was there. So"}, {"start": "02:14:33", "end": "02:14:40", "text": "I saw I saw a lot of changes and the more changes I saw, the less and the"}, {"start": "02:14:40", "end": "02:14:47", "text": "more senior and the more mature I got and the more the older I got and the more dead friends I earned or gained. I"}, {"start": "02:14:47", "end": "02:14:54", "text": "was like, man, maybe I'm not putting myself in the healthiest position here being sent to war by by some of these"}, {"start": "02:14:54", "end": "02:15:00", "text": "these idiots. And and so I was very open and honest with my team that, hey, I you"}, {"start": "02:15:00", "end": "02:15:05", "text": "know, I I don't I don't know about this. So when I got back from that deployment, probably after the bin mission now, but"}, {"start": "02:15:05", "end": "02:15:12", "text": "that's when I went and sat down with my master chief and I was like, \"Hey, I I need a break.\" Right? I was done in operational in the squadron. There was"}, {"start": "02:15:12", "end": "02:15:17", "text": "no longer staying there. I'd done very few guys stayed there that long. They're"}, {"start": "02:15:17", "end": "02:15:23", "text": "like, \"Okay, you get you got to move out of the squadron and go do something different now.\" I'm like, \"Okay, well, I I need a break for 18 months. If I'm"}, {"start": "02:15:23", "end": "02:15:28", "text": "leaving the squadron, give me a break.\" And that's when they were like, \"No, the only other billet we're going to give you is an operational billet at a"}, {"start": "02:15:28", "end": "02:15:33", "text": "different squadron.\" I was like, \"Okay, well, if if those are my options, if"}, {"start": "02:15:33", "end": "02:15:40", "text": "you're you're my master chief telling me my only option is this, okay, thank you for that clarity. I already knew what"}, {"start": "02:15:40", "end": "02:15:46", "text": "was going on at the senior ranks and in the military and what was going on in Afghanistan, and I saw them making it"}, {"start": "02:15:46", "end": "02:15:52", "text": "more dangerous for us doing our jobs. I was like, I why why am I going to continue to volunteer for these"}, {"start": "02:15:52", "end": "02:15:57", "text": "knuckleheads?\" Well, I mean, what did the other guys think? Were they on the same page as you?"}, {"start": "02:15:57", "end": "02:16:04", "text": "Depends on where your enlistment is. You know the deal, right? Are you at 16 years? Are you at 20? You know, how close are you to that retirement, right?"}, {"start": "02:16:04", "end": "02:16:10", "text": "I I never joined for retirement, right? I I joined because I wanted to serve. And then I stayed. And then I just"}, {"start": "02:16:10", "end": "02:16:17", "text": "stayed and stayed and stayed because there was a war going on and very few of us were doing it. So, I stayed. Um I"}, {"start": "02:16:17", "end": "02:16:22", "text": "didn't stay for the paycheck. You know, there's not much paycheck there. Retirement, right? I could do 20 years"}, {"start": "02:16:22", "end": "02:16:28", "text": "and retire at the same amount the the trombone player in the Navy band does 20 years and retires, right? So, it's not"}, {"start": "02:16:28", "end": "02:16:36", "text": "about the money. Um, like I said, I got out with a plaque with my name misspelled. That's all I got. So, it's"}, {"start": "02:16:36", "end": "02:16:41", "text": "never been about um I don't know what it's been about, but"}, {"start": "02:16:41", "end": "02:16:48", "text": "it hasn't been about it was just it was it was time for me. The the other guys other guys that I"}, {"start": "02:16:48", "end": "02:16:54", "text": "worked with, you know, maybe they're sitting at 16 years. I was at 14. Maybe they have two years left on their enlistment that gets them to 18. And"}, {"start": "02:16:54", "end": "02:17:00", "text": "then, you know, they were they were trying to get us all with the big investment bonuses at 19 years. If you"}, {"start": "02:17:00", "end": "02:17:06", "text": "stay to 25, we'll give you some big money taxfree. So, they were they were definitely courting a lot of the guys at"}, {"start": "02:17:06", "end": "02:17:13", "text": "that level. And the hook is if you do pass 10, well, why not stay till 20 and get your retirement? Right? I was at 14. Why not stay six"}, {"start": "02:17:13", "end": "02:17:18", "text": "more? Well, what are the odds I make it six?"}, {"start": "02:17:18", "end": "02:17:23", "text": "It's pretty pretty good odds I made it at 14 based off the amount of friends"}, {"start": "02:17:23", "end": "02:17:29", "text": "that aren't here, right? What are the odds I make it another six? And then these six years I'm not going to be"}, {"start": "02:17:29", "end": "02:17:38", "text": "operational where I like. You're going to put me in the leadership with all these clowns that I I don't trust and respect now. I'm out. [ __ ] hey, man."}, {"start": "02:17:38", "end": "02:17:46", "text": "Damn. Heat."}, {"start": "02:18:03", "end": "02:18:06", "text": "Heat."}, {"start": "02:18:37", "end": "02:18:44", "text": "Whether you're juggling tasks or trying to stay clear-headed throughout the day. Ketone IQ delivers clean brain fuel that"}, {"start": "02:18:44", "end": "02:18:50", "text": "can help you think sharper, longer, and smoother. No caffeine, no crash, no over"}, {"start": "02:18:50", "end": "02:18:55", "text": "stimulation. Thanks to the folks at HVMN for sending me their Ketone IQ product"}, {"start": "02:18:55", "end": "02:19:02", "text": "to try. I really like taking Ketone IQ before I work out. It's not an energy drink, but it gives me a ton of energy."}, {"start": "02:19:02", "end": "02:19:09", "text": "I wish I had this when I was on active duty. When I take it, I have more endurance but without the crash. Ketone"}, {"start": "02:19:09", "end": "02:19:15", "text": "IQ uses ketone dial for a fast acting natural slow release effect with no"}, {"start": "02:19:15", "end": "02:19:20", "text": "artificial sweeteners or fillers. It helps support high focus tasks by"}, {"start": "02:19:20", "end": "02:19:26", "text": "directly powering neurons and stabilizing cognitive output. And it's"}, {"start": "02:19:26", "end": "02:19:33", "text": "military tested. Originally developed to support elite cognitive performance in the field. HVMN has an amazing offer"}, {"start": "02:19:33", "end": "02:19:40", "text": "just for my listeners. Visit ketone.comsrs for 30% off your subscription order."}, {"start": "02:19:40", "end": "02:19:48", "text": "Plus, receive a free gift with your second shipment. Fun surprises like a free six-pack, Ketone IQ merch, and"}, {"start": "02:19:48", "end": "02:19:55", "text": "more. These statements and products have not been evaluated by the FDA. These products are not intended to diagnose,"}, {"start": "02:19:55", "end": "02:20:01", "text": "treat, cure, or prevent any disease or condition. Here"}, {"start": "02:20:01", "end": "02:20:06", "text": "we go again. History is repeating itself. Gold just hit another all-time"}, {"start": "02:20:06", "end": "02:20:13", "text": "high, and silver's climbed to its highest level since 2011. With uncertainty and fear rippling through"}, {"start": "02:20:13", "end": "02:20:20", "text": "the economy, more people are turning to safe haven assets like gold and silver. And it's not just hardworking Americans"}, {"start": "02:20:20", "end": "02:20:25", "text": "making that move. Central banks and billionaires are doing the same. That's"}, {"start": "02:20:25", "end": "02:20:30", "text": "exactly why I've partnered with the award-winning company Gold Co. They specialize in helping people protect"}, {"start": "02:20:30", "end": "02:20:38", "text": "their savings with real assets, gold and silver. And they make it simple and easy. So go to shalikesgold.com"}, {"start": "02:20:38", "end": "02:20:45", "text": "to learn more. You'll get a free 2025 gold and silver kit and you could qualify for up to 10% in free bonus"}, {"start": "02:20:45", "end": "02:20:51", "text": "silver. Don't wait. Now is the time to make your move. Visit shaunlikesold.com"}, {"start": "02:20:51", "end": "02:20:56", "text": "one more time. That's shanunlikgold.com. Performance may vary. You should always"}, {"start": "02:20:56", "end": "02:21:01", "text": "consult your financial and tax professional."}, {"start": "02:21:02", "end": "02:21:08", "text": "Did you have any aspirations to write the book before you were out?"}, {"start": "02:21:08", "end": "02:21:14", "text": "I had talked to Well, we knew we knew uh the movie was being made within 3 weeks"}, {"start": "02:21:14", "end": "02:21:20", "text": "of the mission. So, the movie idea and everything that the movie was happening was everybody knew that."}, {"start": "02:21:20", "end": "02:21:27", "text": "You mean what what do you mean within 3 weeks of the mission? You mean you mean the movie was being discussed before"}, {"start": "02:21:27", "end": "02:21:32", "text": "bin Laden dies three weeks within the mission we go to"}, {"start": "02:21:32", "end": "02:21:38", "text": "Petta's retirement ceremony and he has at Langley Virginia full access to"}, {"start": "02:21:38", "end": "02:21:45", "text": "Langley the screenwriter producer and director. So we all knew that very very loud and"}, {"start": "02:21:45", "end": "02:21:52", "text": "proud that okay they're making a movie out of this. Dude, how the [ __ ] does the government sue you for $7 million"}, {"start": "02:21:52", "end": "02:21:58", "text": "for writing a book or whatever the [ __ ] they they whatever you call it, prosecuted you."}, {"start": "02:21:58", "end": "02:22:05", "text": "They [ __ ] took your money. They took your They took $7 million that you earned from the book, but"}, {"start": "02:22:05", "end": "02:22:13", "text": "the director of CIA has given full access to CIA headquarters at Langley,"}, {"start": "02:22:13", "end": "02:22:19", "text": "Virginia to make a [ __ ] movie. They gave the female CIA woman, they gave her"}, {"start": "02:22:19", "end": "02:22:25", "text": "permission to talk to the producers to give him the movie. That's the reason the movie is so accurate."}, {"start": "02:22:25", "end": "02:22:32", "text": "So, so we all knew plain as day, right? We we we knew this was happening. We knew this was coming and and honestly,"}, {"start": "02:22:32", "end": "02:22:39", "text": "it wasn't much of a surprise, right? Um, did your team know you were"}, {"start": "02:22:39", "end": "02:22:44", "text": "going to write the book? Not everybody, but I talked to a crew that that uh that"}, {"start": "02:22:44", "end": "02:22:50", "text": "I respected and said, \"Hey, here's what I'm doing.\" What was their take?"}, {"start": "02:22:50", "end": "02:22:56", "text": "Mixed mixed results. Um I a key piece to explaining what I was"}, {"start": "02:22:56", "end": "02:23:02", "text": "doing was, \"Hey, look, I'm not putting my name on it. I'm not getting out in front of it.\" And and I think they were like, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "02:23:02", "end": "02:23:09", "text": "that makes sense. If you're going to do that, we get it.\" Cuz everybody else we'd seen was beating their chest, taking credit, right? Um, and I was"}, {"start": "02:23:09", "end": "02:23:15", "text": "like, \"Look, I I don't want any of that. Um, I'm not using my name. I don't I don't have any plans on showing my face."}, {"start": "02:23:15", "end": "02:23:23", "text": "I want to tell the story. I'm a kid who read a book. I read a whole bunch of books growing up. And it's because of those books that I voluntarily did 13"}, {"start": "02:23:23", "end": "02:23:29", "text": "[ __ ] tours, right? It was those books I read about, right? It wasn't uh so"}, {"start": "02:23:29", "end": "02:23:36", "text": "yeah, I I don't think writing books is bad. Um, you know, I I think if you're a SEAL who's done,"}, {"start": "02:23:36", "end": "02:23:42", "text": "and there's some out there, right? uh that have done very little and written about it a lot. Th those those kind of"}, {"start": "02:23:42", "end": "02:23:48", "text": "give a bad uh but those are also guys saying hey look at me at the same time. So I I took a very different approach."}, {"start": "02:23:48", "end": "02:23:55", "text": "I' I've been there did it. I don't want the I don't want the press publicity and I'm going to I'm going to tell the story and I'm going to do it under the radar."}, {"start": "02:23:55", "end": "02:24:02", "text": "Mhm. At least that was the that was the approach. That was the plan till I got punched in the face."}, {"start": "02:24:02", "end": "02:24:08", "text": "Where do we go from here? The book came out. Well, let me back up."}, {"start": "02:24:08", "end": "02:24:16", "text": "Next question. Right. So, I get out of the Navy. I'm gonna write a book. I've never written a [ __ ] book before. What are you How do you do this?"}, {"start": "02:24:16", "end": "02:24:23", "text": "Like, okay. I um um I met a a uh"}, {"start": "02:24:23", "end": "02:24:30", "text": "a literary agent who does the book stuff. Um talked to her. I'm like, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "02:24:30", "end": "02:24:37", "text": "how do I do this? I I need an attorney.\" Whatever. She had represented a former Delta Force author by the name of Dalton"}, {"start": "02:24:37", "end": "02:24:45", "text": "Fury. That was his uh that was his pseudonym, right? Delta Force officer. Wrote a book called Killing Bin Laden."}, {"start": "02:24:45", "end": "02:24:52", "text": "Interesting. Yeah. Interesting. But okay. Um he's he now died of cancer. So, um Dalton Fury"}, {"start": "02:24:52", "end": "02:24:58", "text": "writes this book. Literary agent had represented him. So, she's like, \"Hey, I"}, {"start": "02:24:58", "end": "02:25:04", "text": "I can help you. I I helped him through the whole process. So, I'll get you in touch with the same lawyer we used to to"}, {"start": "02:25:04", "end": "02:25:09", "text": "do his book. Amazing. Great. It's exactly what we need. So, former SOCOM"}, {"start": "02:25:09", "end": "02:25:14", "text": "JAG, now civilian practice, represented other"}, {"start": "02:25:14", "end": "02:25:20", "text": "military authors. Like, okay, great. I think I've got the perfect I got a lawyer. I got my literary agent. We go"}, {"start": "02:25:20", "end": "02:25:27", "text": "get a publishing deal. And and I'm like, okay, how do we need to do this lawyer? How does this work? Like, okay, well, I"}, {"start": "02:25:27", "end": "02:25:34", "text": "can review the book. I've got my clearances. I've done this for other people. I'll review the book and"}, {"start": "02:25:34", "end": "02:25:40", "text": "set that. That's how it works. Like, okay, check. Did I know anybody who'd write a book could create some waves in"}, {"start": "02:25:40", "end": "02:25:45", "text": "the community? Sure. But as long as my lawyer was telling me I was legal and"}, {"start": "02:25:45", "end": "02:25:51", "text": "I'm I'm referencing that against the movies and everything else coming out from the administration, I'm like,"}, {"start": "02:25:51", "end": "02:25:56", "text": "\"Okay, seems to make sense. This guy's a former SOCOM jag. He's represented a"}, {"start": "02:25:56", "end": "02:26:01", "text": "former officer who wrote a book about Bin Laden and did a 60 Minutes episode. I've got the right legal advice."}, {"start": "02:26:01", "end": "02:26:08", "text": "Seems like the perfect fit. So boom, knock out the book. Book finishes, right? We get it published and"}, {"start": "02:26:08", "end": "02:26:15", "text": "and the book comes out, right? And as the book comes out, that's when the government hears it, reads it, whatever,"}, {"start": "02:26:15", "end": "02:26:21", "text": "and they go high and right. Right now, mind you, my book came out before the"}, {"start": "02:26:21", "end": "02:26:28", "text": "presidential election and it came out before Obama's movie, right before the"}, {"start": "02:26:28", "end": "02:26:34", "text": "Zero Dark 30 movie. And I want to say it might have come out before The Finish, which was the book that they'd all given"}, {"start": "02:26:34", "end": "02:26:42", "text": "interviews for. So, my my book was a surprise to the White House and everybody else. So, the"}, {"start": "02:26:42", "end": "02:26:48", "text": "DOJ is sent after me. Um, man, holy"}, {"start": "02:26:48", "end": "02:26:55", "text": "[ __ ] You You think getting in a gunfight's bad? I've never seen anything like I didn't know anything about it. I"}, {"start": "02:26:55", "end": "02:27:03", "text": "didn't know that this world existed. Um, and then and then my real battle started, right? Uh,"}, {"start": "02:27:03", "end": "02:27:10", "text": "3 years. So, this really happened because Zero Dark 30, the president's in"}, {"start": "02:27:10", "end": "02:27:15", "text": "Panetta's movie wasn't out. Their book wasn't out. interesting"}, {"start": "02:27:15", "end": "02:27:21", "text": "timing to all of this, right? If I if I look at somebody who's running for president for a second term,"}, {"start": "02:27:21", "end": "02:27:28", "text": "right? Who's going to run very much so on his movie that he's promoting that's promoting his heroic decision-making to"}, {"start": "02:27:28", "end": "02:27:36", "text": "take out Bin Laden, right? Right. You want to make sure that narrative is is out there. Well, if a nobody presents a"}, {"start": "02:27:36", "end": "02:27:42", "text": "narrative that could counter yours, whether you've read it or not, what do you do? You crush the competition, right? If if you have a Hunter Biden"}, {"start": "02:27:42", "end": "02:27:48", "text": "laptop weeks before a presidential election that could upset the election, what do you do? You have a hundred"}, {"start": "02:27:48", "end": "02:27:54", "text": "former intelligence officers write about the fact that this isn't a real laptop and this is all fake and they crush the"}, {"start": "02:27:54", "end": "02:28:02", "text": "other news. Same difference. I was just a nobody. And so they came after me and"}, {"start": "02:28:02", "end": "02:28:08", "text": "legally, right? So legally, so lots of lawyers throwing all sorts of threats."}, {"start": "02:28:08", "end": "02:28:15", "text": "my original attorney, right? The guy had given me all the advice that says, \"Look, I can review it.\" He's like, \"Look, they're wrong. There's nothing"}, {"start": "02:28:15", "end": "02:28:21", "text": "classified in the book.\" He's like, \"Wait till they read it. They'll leave you alone. There's nothing wrong.\" I'm like, \"I they seem pretty angry here.\""}, {"start": "02:28:21", "end": "02:28:27", "text": "It's like, \"What's the deal?\" He's like, \"No, you're good.\" Like, I I don't I don't like that vibe from my attorney when I got a whole bunch of pit bulls"}, {"start": "02:28:27", "end": "02:28:33", "text": "over here yelling at me. So, I hired a second attorney. first attorney continues to tell my second attorney"}, {"start": "02:28:33", "end": "02:28:39", "text": "that we had no obligation to get the book reviewed, that he had the prior authority to to review it, to vet it, to"}, {"start": "02:28:39", "end": "02:28:46", "text": "make sure there was nothing classified in it and and check the box. New attorney is like, \"Man, I don't know"}, {"start": "02:28:46", "end": "02:28:53", "text": "that that's accurate.\" So, remove attorney one, bring in attorney two, and"}, {"start": "02:28:53", "end": "02:28:59", "text": "go to the pitbulls at the DOJ and say, \"Look, I'll give up attorney client privilege. I didn't do any of this"}, {"start": "02:28:59", "end": "02:29:04", "text": "maliciously. I'll I'll answer anything you want. Like, please don't be so mad."}, {"start": "02:29:04", "end": "02:29:10", "text": "Look, this is exactly how we got here. I'll go through my emails with my attorney. For the past 9 months, this"}, {"start": "02:29:10", "end": "02:29:16", "text": "attorney's been guiding me through this process to this moment. So, if you have a if there's a legal problem here, let's"}, {"start": "02:29:16", "end": "02:29:22", "text": "let's let's all sit down and discuss this. Right? That was when when all this hit, right? All the drama in the press"}, {"start": "02:29:22", "end": "02:29:28", "text": "hit when the book came out. I've been taught, right? Communicate with leadership. If there's a problem,"}, {"start": "02:29:28", "end": "02:29:33", "text": "communicate with leadership. I'd done that every time in the teams, right? There's a problem, go hit up leadership"}, {"start": "02:29:33", "end": "02:29:40", "text": "and communicate. It's our single biggest asset is our ability to communicate through the issues."}, {"start": "02:29:40", "end": "02:29:45", "text": "I text messaged my former commanding officer, commanding officer of my squadron who'd moved up to be commanding"}, {"start": "02:29:45", "end": "02:29:51", "text": "officer of the whole team. Said, \"Hey, sir, this has gotten out of hand. I would love to talk with you about this and explain what's going on. Open up"}, {"start": "02:29:51", "end": "02:29:59", "text": "communication.\" He responds back with two-word text. Delete me."}, {"start": "02:29:59", "end": "02:30:05", "text": "That is a perfect example of the leadership inside NSW,"}, {"start": "02:30:05", "end": "02:30:10", "text": "right? Delete me. No. Didn't want to talk to me. Didn't want to ask what happened. Didn't want to say, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "02:30:10", "end": "02:30:16", "text": "Bess, you were one of our top performers. You've been here for years. You just left. Like, what's going on?\" There was none of that. It was an"}, {"start": "02:30:16", "end": "02:30:22", "text": "immediate, \"We're going to [ __ ] crush this dude.\" And so, I had done some"}, {"start": "02:30:22", "end": "02:30:28", "text": "like when I first got out, I did some video games. I helped with a video game company shoot some like advertisement"}, {"start": "02:30:28", "end": "02:30:34", "text": "type content. Well, I had I'd hired some buddies that were still in. They went after them. The command did. They went"}, {"start": "02:30:34", "end": "02:30:41", "text": "after any one of my friends. They absolutely one of my friends. They told him not to even come back into work for"}, {"start": "02:30:41", "end": "02:30:48", "text": "his last year in the Navy. Are you serious? Officer, one of my officer friends that I had actually emailed a a"}, {"start": "02:30:48", "end": "02:30:54", "text": "copy of my book to before it had come out. And when they I gave up attorney client privilege so they could look through my computer and see the advice I"}, {"start": "02:30:54", "end": "02:31:00", "text": "got. They went through my computer and dug up everything they could. And they saw that I'd sent a copy of this book to an officer friend who was enlisted and"}, {"start": "02:31:00", "end": "02:31:06", "text": "became an officer in the community. And they went to him and were like, \"Hey, uh, why didn't you report him?\" He's"}, {"start": "02:31:06", "end": "02:31:12", "text": "like, \"Report him for what?\" Like, \"Well, he was writing a book and you should have reported him.\" And they [ __ ] him, right? They they screwed"}, {"start": "02:31:12", "end": "02:31:18", "text": "over probably 12 other of my friends. I mean, what what do they do? They say, \"I don't"}, {"start": "02:31:18", "end": "02:31:24", "text": "know. I didn't know this was wrong. I mean, we just had the president, Leon Petta, the director of CIA, [ __ ] have"}, {"start": "02:31:24", "end": "02:31:31", "text": "Hollywood and open the doors to they didn't care. The the the hypocrisy is so"}, {"start": "02:31:31", "end": "02:31:37", "text": "in your face and sick when you're sitting through it. I'm like, hey, um, what about the movie? They're like, well, you're not Petta. You couldn't"}, {"start": "02:31:37", "end": "02:31:43", "text": "authorize that. I'm like, okay, what about Admiral McCraven and Obama giving"}, {"start": "02:31:43", "end": "02:31:49", "text": "interviews for this book, The Finish? Like, did anybody approve what they could talk about or not talk about? Well, they know what to talk. I'm like,"}, {"start": "02:31:49", "end": "02:31:55", "text": "\"Okay, well, what's the review authority? We're all operating off the same like, come on, guys.\""}, {"start": "02:31:55", "end": "02:32:01", "text": "Right? So, so for for three years,"}, {"start": "02:32:01", "end": "02:32:06", "text": "three years, they came after me. I've I've never written Thankfully, the book made a ton of"}, {"start": "02:32:06", "end": "02:32:11", "text": "money, right? The book went all the book money went into a savings account. Um,"}, {"start": "02:32:11", "end": "02:32:16", "text": "I've never written a $50,000 check in my life. I was writing $50,000 checks a"}, {"start": "02:32:16", "end": "02:32:23", "text": "month. for my attorney's fees because if you're the government and you have unlimited attorneys, what do you do? You"}, {"start": "02:32:23", "end": "02:32:30", "text": "outspend them. So immediately they're like, \"Yeah, felony. Felony for what?\" Oh, all sorts"}, {"start": "02:32:30", "end": "02:32:36", "text": "of threats. Every threat under the sun. I'm like, \"I gave up attorney client privilege.\" They called me in for two"}, {"start": "02:32:36", "end": "02:32:42", "text": "separate all Kellerman interrogations. They weren't questionings. They were 12-hour sessions in the basement of the"}, {"start": "02:32:42", "end": "02:32:48", "text": "NCIS headquarters in San Diego, right? where they no seals in the room, just"}, {"start": "02:32:48", "end": "02:32:53", "text": "some [ __ ] NCIS guys and and literally going through every step in my book"}, {"start": "02:32:53", "end": "02:32:59", "text": "like, \"Well, right here, right here you talk about you guys launched the mission out of Jalalabad. Did you know there was a mortar attack"}, {"start": "02:32:59", "end": "02:33:08", "text": "in Jalalabad a week after your book came out and an American service member was killed? That blood's on your hands.\""}, {"start": "02:33:08", "end": "02:33:15", "text": "I'm like, \"I'm sorry. Did you just say Chalalabad was murdered?\" Like, have you ever been to Jbad? No. like, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "02:33:15", "end": "02:33:20", "text": "well, I've been there like 12 times. Do you know how many times it's been morted?\" Every time. I'm like, \"Uh, hate"}, {"start": "02:33:20", "end": "02:33:26", "text": "to break it to you, but we have Russian contractors cooking our chow and we have Afghans pumping the shitters.\" Like,"}, {"start": "02:33:26", "end": "02:33:33", "text": "it's nobody's surprise that we have an American base in Jalalabad, right? Didn't matter. That was them just"}, {"start": "02:33:33", "end": "02:33:38", "text": "trying to to poke me. They They pulled up a picture in my book"}, {"start": "02:33:38", "end": "02:33:43", "text": "of the four tube night vision goggles, like right there, highly [ __ ] classified. How could you? You're such"}, {"start": "02:33:43", "end": "02:33:49", "text": "an idiot. How could you leak this stuff? Like, do you get internet down here in the basement? Please, please Google"}, {"start": "02:33:49", "end": "02:33:55", "text": "GPNVG night vision goggles and the manufacturers's website will pop up with all the specifications."}, {"start": "02:33:55", "end": "02:34:02", "text": "In fact, you can buy them for 40 grand. They're on sale now. Anybody can have them. The Canadian Tier One unit tried to pull"}, {"start": "02:34:02", "end": "02:34:08", "text": "that [ __ ] with us that the four tubes were Yeah. that the that the quads were"}, {"start": "02:34:08", "end": "02:34:14", "text": "Yeah. were classified. So, we sent them the article. Actually, they said all of the equipment that was used to take the the"}, {"start": "02:34:14", "end": "02:34:21", "text": "the world record sniper shot was classified. So, we actually sent them the article in Ballistic Magazine that I"}, {"start": "02:34:21", "end": "02:34:27", "text": "believe was that like 2 years old, Tim? 2 years old. Said, \"Oh, you mean all of this equipment that you guys had"}, {"start": "02:34:27", "end": "02:34:36", "text": "Ballistic Magazine [ __ ] put in the article about you?\" Yep. Oh, that's classified. Okay. So, we put four dildos over the"}, {"start": "02:34:36", "end": "02:34:43", "text": "nod tubes and sent it back to them. We said, \"Here you go, Canada.\" Yep. the pick and choose the hypocrisy"}, {"start": "02:34:43", "end": "02:34:49", "text": "they they kept saying look it's tactics techniques and procedures ttps it's the same [ __ ] they just went after Pete"}, {"start": "02:34:49", "end": "02:34:55", "text": "Scoellon right who's that who's the guy what's the guy's name that I'll say I won't say his last name but"}, {"start": "02:34:55", "end": "02:35:02", "text": "his first name is Walt and he had the Walt Alman he's an admiral right I don't know he is Walt Alman an admiral"}, {"start": "02:35:02", "end": "02:35:08", "text": "Tim yeah Walt Alman he's the guy yeah he went after he went after Pete Scobel and"}, {"start": "02:35:08", "end": "02:35:13", "text": "like threatened him and said that he's gonna He's going to [ __ ] ruin his"}, {"start": "02:35:13", "end": "02:35:19", "text": "reputation in the SEAL teams because he came on the Shawn Ryan show and talked about an operation. Look, I love I love"}, {"start": "02:35:19", "end": "02:35:26", "text": "Walt, but I think people change when they get into positions of leadership. And I I think that's that's what we that's why I left the community is"}, {"start": "02:35:26", "end": "02:35:34", "text": "because I saw these great officers moving up into a into a realm where they became politicians. And sorry, I'm not a"}, {"start": "02:35:34", "end": "02:35:40", "text": "fan of any politician. Yeah. you know, Walt came he got in touch with with my attorney, you know,"}, {"start": "02:35:40", "end": "02:35:48", "text": "who's sitting right over here parloratory and is telling him that that Pete Pete needs to that Sean needs to"}, {"start": "02:35:48", "end": "02:35:54", "text": "take the episode down or whatever because Pete released classified information about the weight of the"}, {"start": "02:35:54", "end": "02:36:00", "text": "boats. He said the wrong [ __ ] weight of the boats."}, {"start": "02:36:00", "end": "02:36:05", "text": "It's like, well, here's what I would say to that, right? the leadership has the"}, {"start": "02:36:05", "end": "02:36:11", "text": "balls to to call Pete who who absolutely bared his soul on that episode and"}, {"start": "02:36:11", "end": "02:36:18", "text": "crushed it, right? Um, but NSW has the balls to call a guy like that and and and harp on him. But, right, recently"}, {"start": "02:36:18", "end": "02:36:25", "text": "there was a Netflix documentary, right? A Netflix documentary that came out in the past 6 months on the on the Bin Laden raid. So, this is a great story"}, {"start": "02:36:25", "end": "02:36:30", "text": "on the Bin Laden raid. On specifically about the Bin Laden raid only about the Bin Laden mission Netflix"}, {"start": "02:36:30", "end": "02:36:36", "text": "special 6 months ago. the same raid that you were on and wrote a book about and then"}, {"start": "02:36:36", "end": "02:36:42", "text": "took $7 million from you. Producer of the show calls, gets a hold of me, says, \"Hey, Matt, we're doing"}, {"start": "02:36:42", "end": "02:36:48", "text": "this. We're doing this interview. I've already interviewed Admiral McCraven. We're doing this whole bin Laden thing.\" I'm like, \"Listen, a hasn't this been"}, {"start": "02:36:48", "end": "02:36:53", "text": "done already? We He dies in the end. Let's get over with the story.\" They're like, \"No, but Netflix has never done"}, {"start": "02:36:53", "end": "02:37:00", "text": "it. We're going to do our version.\" I'm like, \"Okay, great.\" He's like, \"Listen, we we've interviewed all the intel folks and out of DC. We just sat down with"}, {"start": "02:37:00", "end": "02:37:06", "text": "Admiral McCraven at his house for like four hours and and look, we we'd love some of the"}, {"start": "02:37:06", "end": "02:37:12", "text": "operators on the ground to come in and share their story. And I'm like, really? You Admiral McCraven just talked about"}, {"start": "02:37:12", "end": "02:37:18", "text": "it. I'm like, what authorities, any clearances, anything that we went through to that it's okay to talk about this? And that's when I explained to the"}, {"start": "02:37:18", "end": "02:37:25", "text": "the producer. I'm like, listen, I explained my situation, how the government came after and we got to finish it, but how the government came"}, {"start": "02:37:25", "end": "02:37:32", "text": "after me and put me in debt and all this stuff. I'm like, look, I got a I got a payment plan for writing a book and talking about this mission. Now, it's"}, {"start": "02:37:32", "end": "02:37:39", "text": "been 10 years and it's supposed to be okay for me to go sit down next to Admiral McCraven and didn't go through,"}, {"start": "02:37:39", "end": "02:37:45", "text": "right? Well, no. I I talked to the producer. I'm like, would never allow Walt Alman would never allow this to happen."}, {"start": "02:37:45", "end": "02:37:51", "text": "So, I'm like, hey, can you get me in touch with the admiral? Right. Nobody inside the seals has ever talked to me"}, {"start": "02:37:51", "end": "02:37:57", "text": "about anything, but I'm like, can you put me in touch with the admiral? And the producer does. I get a call set up"}, {"start": "02:37:57", "end": "02:38:02", "text": "with Admiral McCraven. Like, [ __ ] yeah. Let's do this. Call McCraven. He's in"}, {"start": "02:38:02", "end": "02:38:08", "text": "his car. He's driving like, \"Hey, sir. Hey, bis. How you doing?\" I'd love, \"Hey, what are you up to?\" I'm like,"}, {"start": "02:38:08", "end": "02:38:15", "text": "\"Well, you know, I'm a little conflicted. A little bit of conflicted here, sir. Did let me explain my situation. I wrote a book, hired a"}, {"start": "02:38:15", "end": "02:38:22", "text": "lawyer, wrote a book. Government came after me for that book. I now have a payment plan on that book for the next 15 years, and the government is going to"}, {"start": "02:38:22", "end": "02:38:28", "text": "[ __ ] kill me if I say anything about this book.\" But but but now it's they're asking me to get on a Netflix"}, {"start": "02:38:28", "end": "02:38:33", "text": "documentary next to you. He's like, \"Oh, well, Matt, Matt, you don't don't feel obligated to be on that.\" Like, \"What?"}, {"start": "02:38:33", "end": "02:38:40", "text": "What do they want you to do?\" We'll take all the credit. I'm like, \"Well, don't worry.\" What do you mean don't feel obligated? I'm like, \"Sir, they they want the"}, {"start": "02:38:40", "end": "02:38:45", "text": "operators to get on and tell our version of the story. And to be perfectly honest, sir, if you're okay doing it,"}, {"start": "02:38:45", "end": "02:38:52", "text": "then I guess it's okay for us to do it.\" You could literally hear him shooting himself through that. I bet you could,"}, {"start": "02:38:52", "end": "02:38:57", "text": "right? Oh god, Matt, Matt, no, no, you don't need to don't feel obligated. I'm like, sir, don't don't worry. I'm not"}, {"start": "02:38:57", "end": "02:39:02", "text": "I'm not going to be involved in this. I still got a payment plan for talking about it. Like, was there some authority"}, {"start": "02:39:02", "end": "02:39:09", "text": "that allowed you and and other people to participate in that interview? Well, Matt, I I know I know what to talk"}, {"start": "02:39:09", "end": "02:39:16", "text": "about. And I'm like, okay, great. I'm sure you do. Oh, he knows. He knows. Yeah. Oh, okay. So, he then switches gears. He's like,"}, {"start": "02:39:16", "end": "02:39:21", "text": "well, Matt, m maybe I can connect you with somebody who can help with your situation. like, \"Oh, sir, that'd be"}, {"start": "02:39:21", "end": "02:39:27", "text": "amazing. It's so thoughtful of you.\" Amazing that now all of a sudden thinking, \"Would you come up with the"}, {"start": "02:39:27", "end": "02:39:34", "text": "Netflix documentary, and you want to now try and help me?\" So, he sets me up with a a civilian,"}, {"start": "02:39:34", "end": "02:39:40", "text": "former SEAL. He's now a civilian aid to the sitting admiral. Oh. So, I'm like,"}, {"start": "02:39:40", "end": "02:39:46", "text": "\"Great.\" I get on the phone with this guy. This guy takes my call. This guy's actually was phenomenal. Former former"}, {"start": "02:39:46", "end": "02:39:52", "text": "Team Six commander, older guy, now a civilian. long conversation with him, broke down the whole thing, everything"}, {"start": "02:39:52", "end": "02:39:57", "text": "I've been through. He's like, \"Man, can you back this up with documentation?\" I'm like, \"Absolutely. Stand by.\""}, {"start": "02:39:57", "end": "02:40:03", "text": "Blasted him all the documentation with everything that to back up everything I've been through. And everything goes"}, {"start": "02:40:03", "end": "02:40:10", "text": "quiet. Why Why would Walt Alman allow Admiral McCraven to do a Netflix special?"}, {"start": "02:40:10", "end": "02:40:16", "text": "That's my question. He wouldn't let Pete Scel come on and talk about I'm I'll get a call after this interview. Pet Scell got a call after"}, {"start": "02:40:16", "end": "02:40:22", "text": "his and they're trying to to to smack us on the wrist. But who's calling Admiral"}, {"start": "02:40:22", "end": "02:40:28", "text": "McCraven and telling him to shut the [ __ ] up? I'll bet Walt isn't calling out. I bet Walt's not calling him."}, {"start": "02:40:28", "end": "02:40:34", "text": "Wonder why. It's further up the food chain. All right. Yeah. So, unfortunately, right, I'll give you"}, {"start": "02:40:34", "end": "02:40:39", "text": "another example. In the height of my my issues, I contacted a former SEAL. I"}, {"start": "02:40:39", "end": "02:40:46", "text": "won't name names, but he has an eye patch and he's a congressman out of a state. You mean Dan Krenshaw?"}, {"start": "02:40:46", "end": "02:40:51", "text": "I'm not naming names. Another one of my favorite people. Sir, here's my situation."}, {"start": "02:40:51", "end": "02:40:58", "text": "You know, Dan Dan actually sent me a message. I should"}, {"start": "02:40:58", "end": "02:41:04", "text": "[ __ ] read this to you, but basically he tells me I brought something up about him and I never even met I gave him the"}, {"start": "02:41:04", "end": "02:41:11", "text": "courtesy of not even mentioning his [ __ ] name. It was about his birthday party where he hired Steve Aayoki to to"}, {"start": "02:41:11", "end": "02:41:17", "text": "DJ his birthday. I mean, that can't be [ __ ] cheap, right? Especially on a congressman's s salary. And I brought"}, {"start": "02:41:17", "end": "02:41:23", "text": "that up. And Dan sends me a message that says his boys over at six"}, {"start": "02:41:23", "end": "02:41:29", "text": "are really upset with me that I brought that up. And they're going to they might come beat me up. His boys at six."}, {"start": "02:41:29", "end": "02:41:36", "text": "His boys over at six. Well, to infer he's got I don't know why a congressman would be threatening me with Seal Team Six, but"}, {"start": "02:41:36", "end": "02:41:41", "text": "I'm still [ __ ] waiting. This is actually a couple years away. still have not had my ass kicked by a couple of"}, {"start": "02:41:41", "end": "02:41:46", "text": "guys over at six, but Dan Crunch, he fits with all these [ __ ] people"}, {"start": "02:41:46", "end": "02:41:53", "text": "you're talking about. So, I called him, right? He's a sitting congressman. He's a former officer and"}, {"start": "02:41:53", "end": "02:41:59", "text": "drum roll please, he was getting ready to release his book. Oh. So, I called him up. I get a"}, {"start": "02:41:59", "end": "02:42:05", "text": "conversation with him. I said, \"Sir, here's my situation. I hired an attorney. The attorney gave me bad"}, {"start": "02:42:05", "end": "02:42:11", "text": "advice. book was published. I've given up attorney client privilege, cooperated"}, {"start": "02:42:11", "end": "02:42:18", "text": "everything I can to to fix this. They've still come after me. We can get into all the the other stuff that I'm dealing with. Said, \"Sir, can you help me out"}, {"start": "02:42:18", "end": "02:42:23", "text": "with this?\" He's like, \"Well, you know, I'm I'm about ready to publish my book and I'm I'm not getting it reviewed.\""}, {"start": "02:42:23", "end": "02:42:29", "text": "I'm like, \"Well, sir, same same letter of the law that they came after me for"}, {"start": "02:42:29", "end": "02:42:35", "text": "failure to seek pre-publication review. I didn't get pre-publication review because my lawyer told me I didn't have"}, {"start": "02:42:35", "end": "02:42:41", "text": "to and he could do it. Like in your case, you know, you have to get it reviewed. I'm here telling you,"}, {"start": "02:42:41", "end": "02:42:47", "text": "confirming you have to get reviewed or the government's going to come after you. He's like, \"Yeah, no, but I'm not going to write anything classified in my"}, {"start": "02:42:47", "end": "02:42:54", "text": "book.\" I'm like, \"There's nothing classified in my book.\" They they said there was, they went through it, they said, \"Nope, there's nothing classified in it. You just failed to seek review.\""}, {"start": "02:42:54", "end": "02:43:01", "text": "I'm like, \"So, if I only thing I failed to do was seek review, you're willingly going around that"}, {"start": "02:43:01", "end": "02:43:06", "text": "obligation and you don't give a shit.\" He's like, \"Yeah, but I I'm not going to write about anything classified in my book."}, {"start": "02:43:06", "end": "02:43:12", "text": "That was the answer. Never talked to him again. So, he published his book. No review. Nothing's happened. He's kept his money."}, {"start": "02:43:12", "end": "02:43:18", "text": "He's a sitting congressman. I got a payment plan. So, so to say, I've been alone."}, {"start": "02:43:18", "end": "02:43:25", "text": "So, I guess I guess uh you're not one of Dan's boys over at sick. That's definitely not D boys at six. That's a"}, {"start": "02:43:25", "end": "02:43:30", "text": "pretty ridiculous statement if I've ever heard one."}, {"start": "02:43:31", "end": "02:43:38", "text": "Yeah. You have been targeted, man. So, so the first two years, right, they came after me, um, I signed an agreement called a"}, {"start": "02:43:38", "end": "02:43:44", "text": "profer agreement, and the lawyers can explain what that is, but it's basically like, hey, listen, I'm going to I'll give you full disclosure. I'm not lying"}, {"start": "02:43:44", "end": "02:43:51", "text": "about anything, and unless you find some sort of smoking gun, like, we're good. So, they're like, \"Okay, cool.\" So, I"}, {"start": "02:43:51", "end": "02:43:56", "text": "have full everything talk what, anything they wanted to answer, anything they want to hear about, whatever. Went"}, {"start": "02:43:56", "end": "02:44:01", "text": "through it all. Lie detector tests, two interrogations in the basement where they're accusing me of all this"}, {"start": "02:44:01", "end": "02:44:09", "text": "nonsense. and they finally come back after about two and a half, three years, they're like, \"Okay, we'll leave you alone, but"}, {"start": "02:44:09", "end": "02:44:16", "text": "you and there's nothing classified in the book. You just failed to seek pre-pub review and we want 100% of the"}, {"start": "02:44:16", "end": "02:44:22", "text": "money back. I'm I'm straight suicidal at this point, right? I've had a gun in my mouth over"}, {"start": "02:44:22", "end": "02:44:27", "text": "this. I am [ __ ] I've lost my community.\" You've You've legitimately had a gun in"}, {"start": "02:44:27", "end": "02:44:34", "text": "your mouth or this is a figure of speech? No, legitimately in my mouth. got that bad. Um, yeah, I got out of the teams, my"}, {"start": "02:44:34", "end": "02:44:40", "text": "whole community, my world, everything was ripped from me, right? Every single one of my friends, I didn't have friends"}, {"start": "02:44:40", "end": "02:44:46", "text": "outside the SEAL teams. Gone. Boom. And if you talk to me, I I was getting coms from guys on their"}, {"start": "02:44:46", "end": "02:44:52", "text": "wife's phone or some prepaid 7-Eleven phone saying, \"Yo, dude, when I get out, I'll come up for air. But if anybody's"}, {"start": "02:44:52", "end": "02:44:59", "text": "hot even talking to you from the command, they'll kick us out of the command.\" So it was this big"}, {"start": "02:44:59", "end": "02:45:04", "text": "this big hey anybody connected to BIS got [ __ ] and what the you know I mean"}, {"start": "02:45:04", "end": "02:45:10", "text": "this is just an hour ago we were just talking about"}, {"start": "02:45:10", "end": "02:45:15", "text": "retention and recruitment and how development group had a what plus was"}, {"start": "02:45:15", "end": "02:45:22", "text": "that development group or the entire NSW NS out of the entire [ __ ] SEAL teams we had a plus one seal for the"}, {"start": "02:45:22", "end": "02:45:28", "text": "entire [ __ ] year and Now they're just And now that now"}, {"start": "02:45:28", "end": "02:45:35", "text": "they've allowed they've allowed a movie. They've allowed books. They've allowed everything. They target you. They target"}, {"start": "02:45:35", "end": "02:45:41", "text": "you for what it cuz your [ __ ] book went out before the president's movie and"}, {"start": "02:45:41", "end": "02:45:49", "text": "and they are going to they are going to [ __ ] lynch people and the SEAL teams just for associating with you. So over"}, {"start": "02:45:49", "end": "02:45:56", "text": "over what they say is classified. But there was nothing. They can't even [ __ ] run the classified"}, {"start": "02:45:56", "end": "02:46:01", "text": "operations because they don't have the manpower because their their [ __ ]"}, {"start": "02:46:01", "end": "02:46:09", "text": "egos are so It's just It's just [ __ ] And they're going to burn dudes for for even associating with you."}, {"start": "02:46:09", "end": "02:46:16", "text": "When the exact same material went out in all these other avenues. Yep. And they're going to destroy the Navy's"}, {"start": "02:46:16", "end": "02:46:23", "text": "tier one unit over making a [ __ ] example out of somebody that's that's a double standard."}, {"start": "02:46:23", "end": "02:46:29", "text": "Yeah. So, so I think you made the right [ __ ] call getting out at 14 [ __ ] years. What a"}, {"start": "02:46:29", "end": "02:46:35", "text": "joke. What a [ __ ] joke. You saw You saw what I saw, right? I saw that [ __ ] makes me so [ __ ] angry. Do you"}, {"start": "02:46:35", "end": "02:46:42", "text": "know? Oh, man. And nobody [ __ ] Nobody [ __ ] said [ __ ] Nobody [ __ ] Nobody"}, {"start": "02:46:42", "end": "02:46:47", "text": "Nobody challenged it. This is like This is like this Oh, man. Dude, what the"}, {"start": "02:46:47", "end": "02:46:53", "text": "[ __ ] Like, do you know who this Jay Cal guy is that I've interviewed? He's an SIS guy. He's being charged with murder"}, {"start": "02:46:53", "end": "02:46:58", "text": "and I have of you know it I I thought it would be a good idea to"}, {"start": "02:46:58", "end": "02:47:05", "text": "cover it. Maybe we'll [ __ ] get this. He's really good buddies with with DJ Shipley. He works at GBRS and they now"}, {"start": "02:47:05", "end": "02:47:11", "text": "he's [ __ ] and he can't do it. So I thought it'd be great to expose it all. Do you know how many SS SAS guys have"}, {"start": "02:47:11", "end": "02:47:16", "text": "come out and like spoken up for this [ __ ] guy? Yeah. Zero. You know what"}, {"start": "02:47:16", "end": "02:47:23", "text": "they're [ __ ] Do this is this is the best part. Do you know what their motto is at SAS? He who"}, {"start": "02:47:23", "end": "02:47:31", "text": "dares wins. How [ __ ] hilarious is that? They can't even stand up for their own [ __ ] guys. They can't even stand"}, {"start": "02:47:31", "end": "02:47:37", "text": "up for their own [ __ ] guys. It's It's the same. And their [ __ ] motto is he who dares"}, {"start": "02:47:37", "end": "02:47:42", "text": "wins. What a [ __ ] joke. Like what a joke."}, {"start": "02:47:42", "end": "02:47:48", "text": "I I'm not smiling cuz I get it. I smiling cuz I've I've been I was in a very dark"}, {"start": "02:47:48", "end": "02:47:55", "text": "place, right? I got out. I had everything ripped from me. Zero. I got divorced. Everything gone. Right. Any"}, {"start": "02:47:55", "end": "02:48:00", "text": "community I ever had gone. Like I if you talk to me, no, can't talk to you [ __ ]"}, {"start": "02:48:00", "end": "02:48:06", "text": "They're going to get me. I can't. Nothing. Gone. And that's when I was absolutely. I'm like, \"Fuck this. I'm"}, {"start": "02:48:06", "end": "02:48:13", "text": "out.\" I'm like, \"Right. Okay.\" So they're like, \"Okay, we want all the book money back.\" Like, \"Okay, great."}, {"start": "02:48:13", "end": "02:48:18", "text": "Here's all I got left.\" I had spent close to just under a million and a half"}, {"start": "02:48:18", "end": "02:48:23", "text": "dollars in my legal defense in about three years."}, {"start": "02:48:23", "end": "02:48:28", "text": "I I don't have that money, right? I got a plaque with my name misspelled. No retirement, no pension, nothing. So, the"}, {"start": "02:48:28", "end": "02:48:35", "text": "only way I could defend myself was with the millions of dollars the book had made that was sitting in my savings account. So, I'm writing checks to my"}, {"start": "02:48:35", "end": "02:48:40", "text": "lawyers. Three years later, right, interrogations, all this nonsense. They're like, \"You didn't leak anything"}, {"start": "02:48:40", "end": "02:48:46", "text": "classified in the book. The only thing you failed to do was seek pre-publication review,"}, {"start": "02:48:46", "end": "02:48:54", "text": "but we want all the book money back. Like, fine, take it. I don't give a [ __ ] Wrote them a check. They're like, whoa, whoa, you're missing some. Like,"}, {"start": "02:48:54", "end": "02:49:00", "text": "yeah, here's my receipts. You've never charged me with anything. Never cr Don't ever charge me with a crime. Never"}, {"start": "02:49:00", "end": "02:49:08", "text": "anything. They're like, we want it all back. Like, okay. Like, we want it in three"}, {"start": "02:49:08", "end": "02:49:14", "text": "years. Like, okay. I don't know how I'm going to go make a million and a half or two million to make pay taxes on it to"}, {"start": "02:49:14", "end": "02:49:21", "text": "then give you [ __ ] the rest. So I was like, \"Hey, I'm going to go sue my attorney.\" He gave me the advice. I"}, {"start": "02:49:21", "end": "02:49:27", "text": "gave up attorney client privilege. Go through my emails and look at the advice I got from counsel. This was not me"}, {"start": "02:49:27", "end": "02:49:32", "text": "maliciously going around my legal obligations. Like we don't care."}, {"start": "02:49:32", "end": "02:49:39", "text": "So I wrote him a check every bit of money I had and they gave me three years to pay the rest back. I sued my"}, {"start": "02:49:39", "end": "02:49:45", "text": "attorney. Okay, I figured this out. When you sue somebody, the first casualty of"}, {"start": "02:49:45", "end": "02:49:52", "text": "a lawsuit is the truth. And that's [ __ ] up, right? The first casualty of a lawsuit is the truth. The"}, {"start": "02:49:52", "end": "02:49:57", "text": "truth is irrelevant. It becomes about statute of limitations and where did you file it? And so for 2 and 1/2 years, we"}, {"start": "02:49:57", "end": "02:50:03", "text": "fought all this nonsense until we get to a court date. 2 and 1/2 years in, we get"}, {"start": "02:50:03", "end": "02:50:09", "text": "a court date. And the day we get a court date where we're going to go to court and I'm going to actually get a chance to sue my attorney, he settles. says,"}, {"start": "02:50:09", "end": "02:50:15", "text": "\"Okay, you won. I gave you bad advice. We'll settle.\" Okay. So, problem is the"}, {"start": "02:50:15", "end": "02:50:22", "text": "lawyers make all the money in that that space, right? He writes me a check. Okay. I got to pay my attorney and then"}, {"start": "02:50:22", "end": "02:50:28", "text": "I got to pay taxes on it. So, I don't have the million and a half that the government needs. I go back to the"}, {"start": "02:50:28", "end": "02:50:35", "text": "government with my half a million dollars and my and my winning malpractice case and I say, \"Hey, look,"}, {"start": "02:50:35", "end": "02:50:41", "text": "I got a winning malpractice case. I know you [ __ ] right?\" and and through the malpractice case, um, we did a"}, {"start": "02:50:41", "end": "02:50:48", "text": "discovery, right? And in this discovery process, we were able to question my attorney."}, {"start": "02:50:48", "end": "02:50:54", "text": "Did you know that the DOJ, right, they came after me, two 12-hour interrogation sessions, 3 years long, they had one"}, {"start": "02:50:54", "end": "02:50:59", "text": "phone call with my original attorney, one phone call, 15 minutes."}, {"start": "02:50:59", "end": "02:51:04", "text": "The DOJ called him once for 15 minutes, and my attorney was like, \"No, I told him he had to get a book reviewed.\" Lied"}, {"start": "02:51:04", "end": "02:51:11", "text": "to him. never looked in the emails that hundreds of emails with all of his advice, none"}, {"start": "02:51:11", "end": "02:51:19", "text": "of it. So, the government took that, didn't care. The uh"}, {"start": "02:51:20", "end": "02:51:26", "text": "we won the malpractice case, went back to the government and said, \"Hey, will you relook at this?\" Right? This proves I've got a winning malpractice case that"}, {"start": "02:51:26", "end": "02:51:33", "text": "proves I relied on counsel to publish this book without a government review. And if this is the only thing they got"}, {"start": "02:51:33", "end": "02:51:38", "text": "me on is I failed to seek pre-public review then he told me I like look here"}, {"start": "02:51:38", "end": "02:51:44", "text": "it is he's culpable in that decision-m government was like we're not opening it up again"}, {"start": "02:51:44", "end": "02:51:52", "text": "so wouldn't touch it. So then I went back to them and I said okay I I can't pay you a million half"}, {"start": "02:51:52", "end": "02:51:58", "text": "dollars in three years will you give me a payment plan? So they disappeared they wanted all my tax returns. I sent in a"}, {"start": "02:51:58", "end": "02:52:05", "text": "whole bunch of junk. They came back a couple months later and said, \"Okay, this is just this last January.\""}, {"start": "02:52:05", "end": "02:52:11", "text": "Said, \"Okay, give us all the money that uh that you made from your malpractice and then we'll put you on a payment"}, {"start": "02:52:11", "end": "02:52:18", "text": "plan.\" So, $3,800 a month for the next 15 years. [ __ ] All right. I I only served for 14."}, {"start": "02:52:18", "end": "02:52:25", "text": "There's no way I made over a million half dollars in my service. So, I'll pay back more money for longer than I ever"}, {"start": "02:52:25", "end": "02:52:31", "text": "served. They went through my computers. They deleted every photo from my career,"}, {"start": "02:52:31", "end": "02:52:36", "text": "gave me back a computer with no photos on it. Um, basically zeroized my whole"}, {"start": "02:52:36", "end": "02:52:43", "text": "career. Um, that is when right and and I've been very been in some dark spots through"}, {"start": "02:52:43", "end": "02:52:50", "text": "this, right? Um, that's why I said my my faith my journey of faith has been"}, {"start": "02:52:50", "end": "02:52:57", "text": "much more locked in when I was in the fight with friends and people and whatever. And it was like I understood,"}, {"start": "02:52:57", "end": "02:53:02", "text": "hey, SEAL shit's going to be hard and it's going to I never expected the civilian world to be this hard and to"}, {"start": "02:53:02", "end": "02:53:08", "text": "hit me this way. And I got freaking jumped and and I was not ready for it. I"}, {"start": "02:53:08", "end": "02:53:15", "text": "didn't have a community around me to help me. Um I was alone and in a dark"}, {"start": "02:53:15", "end": "02:53:21", "text": "spot, right? I went to the VA, right? Bad neck and back issues. All through this time, I'm going to the VA for my"}, {"start": "02:53:21", "end": "02:53:27", "text": "medical care, right? The DOJ's [ __ ] me, trying to kill me. Um, and and I go"}, {"start": "02:53:27", "end": "02:53:33", "text": "to the VA. I'm like, \"Hey, man. I I can't drink a beer without my arms going numb."}, {"start": "02:53:33", "end": "02:53:38", "text": "They the uh pain meds. Pain meds. Pain meds."}, {"start": "02:53:38", "end": "02:53:44", "text": "Never even got an MRI in a year and a half.\" Holy [ __ ] dude. Right. My my final trip to the VA, I"}, {"start": "02:53:44", "end": "02:53:50", "text": "came back with a bag of pain meds, no MRI. My parents were in town visiting. I remember showing my parents the pain"}, {"start": "02:53:50", "end": "02:53:56", "text": "meds, and my mom just broke down. I was like, \"What the heck?\" Um, so I wasn't here. I am, right,"}, {"start": "02:53:56", "end": "02:54:04", "text": "getting no help from the VA. And I don't know if it's because they said, \"Hey, don't help this guy. [ __ ] him.\" I have no idea. I just know they I was getting"}, {"start": "02:54:04", "end": "02:54:11", "text": "no help at my only medical help that was there to I have no I pay for my own insurance, right? I I serve, so I get my"}, {"start": "02:54:11", "end": "02:54:16", "text": "VA and VA's doing nothing for me. Um,"}, {"start": "02:54:16", "end": "02:54:21", "text": "so yeah, I met a neck and back surgeon in California, former Air Force guy, Dr."}, {"start": "02:54:21", "end": "02:54:29", "text": "Robert Bray, disc surgery center. Um, former Air Force trained surgeon that started his own practice. I I met him"}, {"start": "02:54:29", "end": "02:54:36", "text": "and he's like, \"B, come on out.\" He gave me X-rays and MRI and I met him in an hour and a half. He's like, \"Listen,"}, {"start": "02:54:36", "end": "02:54:41", "text": "man. You need to clear your schedule. Your neck's basically broken.\" Like, \"What are you talking He's like, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "02:54:41", "end": "02:54:48", "text": "your C4 and five are like 8 mm offset, and if you hit a speed bump the wrong way, you're never walking again.\""}, {"start": "02:54:48", "end": "02:54:53", "text": "He's like, \"Clear your schedule.\" A week later, he operated on me. Fusion, he's done five surgeries. Hasn't charged me a"}, {"start": "02:54:53", "end": "02:54:59", "text": "penny. I'd still be going to the VA for help."}, {"start": "02:54:59", "end": "02:55:06", "text": "That's a hell of a dude. Yep. He's operated on probably He operated on the guy who held me in the helicopter on the crash, right? He's"}, {"start": "02:55:06", "end": "02:55:12", "text": "probably eight other of my friends now. He's operated on. No [ __ ] Yeah. What's his name? Dr. Robert Bray."}, {"start": "02:55:12", "end": "02:55:17", "text": "What a [ __ ] badass. That's awesome, man. Yep."}, {"start": "02:55:18", "end": "02:55:25", "text": "If finding what you need were a superpower, you'd be unstoppable. Parking spots, holiday gifts, clothes"}, {"start": "02:55:25", "end": "02:55:31", "text": "that fit like they were made for you, just imagine how much time you'd save if everything showed up the moment you"}, {"start": "02:55:31", "end": "02:55:38", "text": "needed it. While you may never instantly find these things, if you're hiring, you can find qualified candidates right"}, {"start": "02:55:38", "end": "02:55:43", "text": "away. time and time again with Zip Recruiter. And today, you can try it for"}, {"start": "02:55:43", "end": "02:55:50", "text": "free at ziprecruiter.com/srs. Zip Recruiter's powerful matching technology works fast to find top"}, {"start": "02:55:50", "end": "02:55:57", "text": "talent. With Zip Recruiter's advanced resume database, you can unlock top candidates info instantly. No wonder Zip"}, {"start": "02:55:57", "end": "02:56:04", "text": "Recruiter is the number one rated hiring site based on G2. Want to know right away how many qualified candidates are"}, {"start": "02:56:04", "end": "02:56:10", "text": "in your area? Look no further than Zip Recruiter. Four out of five employers who post on Zip Recruiter get a quality"}, {"start": "02:56:10", "end": "02:56:15", "text": "candidate within the first day. And right now you can try it for free. It's"}, {"start": "02:56:15", "end": "02:56:21", "text": "ziprecruiter.com/srs. Again, that's ziprecruiter.com/srs."}, {"start": "02:56:21", "end": "02:56:27", "text": "ziprecruiter, the smartest way to hire. Do you ever want to just turn off the"}, {"start": "02:56:27", "end": "02:56:33", "text": "news and ignore politics? I know I do. And it can be overwhelming at times, but"}, {"start": "02:56:33", "end": "02:56:38", "text": "we're citizens of a republic and it's important to me to know and understand"}, {"start": "02:56:38", "end": "02:56:44", "text": "the United States Constitution. That's why I'm so excited that Hillsdale College is offering a brand new free"}, {"start": "02:56:44", "end": "02:56:51", "text": "online course called The Federalist. The Federalist Papers were authored by founding fathers Alexander Hamilton and"}, {"start": "02:56:51", "end": "02:56:58", "text": "James Madison, and they shaped the foundation of American democracy. They show how the Constitution created a"}, {"start": "02:56:58", "end": "02:57:04", "text": "government strong enough to protect our rights and restrained enough to prevent tyranny. I learned how checks and"}, {"start": "02:57:04", "end": "02:57:11", "text": "balances still safeguard our freedom today. The Federalist includes 10 lectures, each about 30 minutes long."}, {"start": "02:57:11", "end": "02:57:19", "text": "There's no cost to sign up. Plus, Hillsdale offers more than 40 other online courses, and they're all free. Go"}, {"start": "02:57:19", "end": "02:57:24", "text": "right now to hillsdale.edu/srs to enroll. There's no cost, and it's"}, {"start": "02:57:24", "end": "02:57:33", "text": "easy to get started. That's hillsdale.edu/srs to enroll for free. Hillsdale.edu/srs."}, {"start": "02:57:36", "end": "02:57:43", "text": "All right, Matt, we're back from the break. So, it sounds like there there's it's not just one investigation, there's"}, {"start": "02:57:43", "end": "02:57:48", "text": "a second investigation coming. So, how does this happen? Right. The first one went three years."}, {"start": "02:57:48", "end": "02:57:55", "text": "That was over no easy day. That was getting that money back. Okay, that finished. I started suing my attorney."}, {"start": "02:57:55", "end": "02:58:01", "text": "And while I'm suing my attorney, one of the days I'm I'm we're doing our our stuff with him, I get a call from my"}, {"start": "02:58:01", "end": "02:58:07", "text": "ex-wife and she's like, \"Hey, some FBI agents just showed up at the front door as the kids are leaving for school.\""}, {"start": "02:58:07", "end": "02:58:12", "text": "Real good. Real nice. I'm like, \"What are you talking about?\" She's like, \"Well, they confiscated your old"}, {"start": "02:58:12", "end": "02:58:19", "text": "computer you had that we had when you were in.\" I'm like, \"Okay, what? What?\" They'd say, \"What?\" They're like, \"Yeah, something about your consulting gear"}, {"start": "02:58:19", "end": "02:58:25", "text": "consulting work you did when you were in.\" I'm like, \"Oh my gosh.\" So, okay."}, {"start": "02:58:25", "end": "02:58:30", "text": "Up starts another investigation. Gear consulting, gear and equipment. Okay, so this new"}, {"start": "02:58:30", "end": "02:58:36", "text": "investigation is out of the Department of Justice Norfolk field office, not the Dart Department of Justice San Diego"}, {"start": "02:58:36", "end": "02:58:42", "text": "field office that we've been dealing with for 3 years, right? This was all new. Oh, surprise surprise. Now they're"}, {"start": "02:58:42", "end": "02:58:48", "text": "pissed at gear consulting I did when I was when I was in. Right. I was always a"}, {"start": "02:58:48", "end": "02:58:54", "text": "gear guy. I mentioned that earlier. I love my gear development stuff and I was very involved in that. my uh actually my"}, {"start": "02:58:54", "end": "02:59:00", "text": "former commander that ultimately said delete me. Um first name Wyman. Um last"}, {"start": "02:59:00", "end": "02:59:06", "text": "name rhymes with coward. Um Wyman coward uh came by one day and he's like hey"}, {"start": "02:59:06", "end": "02:59:13", "text": "you're really good at this gear stuff. You know you ought to go talk to the Jags, get some approvals so you can do it the right way, but you know a lot of"}, {"start": "02:59:13", "end": "02:59:18", "text": "your designs have some good cross. You know maybe you designed this flashlight the Marines can buy it. Whatever. So,"}, {"start": "02:59:18", "end": "02:59:25", "text": "okay, I went to our JAG at the command, got approvals to do consulting for for companies on the outside, shoes, hats,"}, {"start": "02:59:25", "end": "02:59:30", "text": "guns, whatever, just any of the stuff I was into outside of work, the very little time I had at home that was"}, {"start": "02:59:30", "end": "02:59:36", "text": "outside of work. And it was approved by the command. So, here we are. I hadn't done any gear"}, {"start": "02:59:36", "end": "02:59:42", "text": "consulting for years. I've been out of the Navy. And now all of a sudden, I find out they're coming after me for"}, {"start": "02:59:42", "end": "02:59:48", "text": "gear consulting. So, okay, it's the whole spin up again. Now, instead of the 12-hour"}, {"start": "02:59:48", "end": "02:59:56", "text": "interrogations in San Diego, 12-hour entation, 12-hour interrogation in Norfolk, new set of [ __ ]"}, {"start": "02:59:56", "end": "03:00:01", "text": "run me through the rig. Oh, you you did all these things. You broke the law. Whatever. You need a plea to a"}, {"start": "03:00:01", "end": "03:00:08", "text": "misdemeanor. Like, a misdemeanor for what? Like, prove any of this you're throwing at me."}, {"start": "03:00:08", "end": "03:00:13", "text": "Prove that I made money off any of my designs through I had the I I'm not the purchasing agent. I can't affect"}, {"start": "03:00:13", "end": "03:00:20", "text": "anything that I design. I can't buy. We have contracting departments, so there's no conflict of interest there. But"}, {"start": "03:00:20", "end": "03:00:27", "text": "they're like, \"Oh, no. You made money off this stuff. We're coming after you.\" So for another year, they came after me."}, {"start": "03:00:27", "end": "03:00:33", "text": "They kept trying to throw throw anything at me to get me to They were like, \"If you don't plead to a misdemeanor, we're going to try and push a felony.\" I'm"}, {"start": "03:00:33", "end": "03:00:39", "text": "like, \"Where? What? How?\" So about a week"}, {"start": "03:00:39", "end": "03:00:44", "text": "before they're trying to get pressure me. I go to the Shot Show in Vegas and"}, {"start": "03:00:44", "end": "03:00:50", "text": "the press hits and all across the press said Matt Besette retained photos of Bin"}, {"start": "03:00:50", "end": "03:00:56", "text": "Laden. I had photos of Bin Laden. I told them about it in my all of my interrogation"}, {"start": "03:00:56", "end": "03:01:03", "text": "stuff. Nobody knew that but the government. So then the government leaks that the same week that they're trying"}, {"start": "03:01:03", "end": "03:01:08", "text": "to pressure me into taking a misdemeanor cuz they wanted so bad to get me on"}, {"start": "03:01:08", "end": "03:01:14", "text": "something. And I just kept saying, \"Fuck you. Prove it.\" And now granted, I have"}, {"start": "03:01:14", "end": "03:01:20", "text": "to pay legal bills to to get that to work. Um, so that's when I had written my second book. I'm paying I'm out of"}, {"start": "03:01:20", "end": "03:01:27", "text": "money from the first one, right? That given all that back. I'd written No Hero. I'm using that money to continue to pay my legal defense. This goes on"}, {"start": "03:01:27", "end": "03:01:33", "text": "for a year. After a year, they're finally like, \"Okay, you didn't do anything criminal. Just give us all the"}, {"start": "03:01:33", "end": "03:01:38", "text": "money back you ever made.\" So it became a financial shakeddown. So,"}, {"start": "03:01:38", "end": "03:01:45", "text": "I wrote him a big check and they went away. That was that was uh the last I heard"}, {"start": "03:01:45", "end": "03:01:51", "text": "from them. Um and then I've just been dealing with the trying to get to the"}, {"start": "03:01:51", "end": "03:01:56", "text": "the financial closure of paying them back for for No Easy Day. That is that"}, {"start": "03:01:56", "end": "03:02:03", "text": "is why I wrote No Easy Way. Um um now what's crazy about that, right?"}, {"start": "03:02:03", "end": "03:02:10", "text": "I've I submitted that book for review. That book has been into the government for six months."}, {"start": "03:02:10", "end": "03:02:16", "text": "What is What is that book about? Everything we're talking about right now. So, you have to get I just I just This"}, {"start": "03:02:16", "end": "03:02:21", "text": "all takes place since me getting I'm a civilian writing this whole book, but I"}, {"start": "03:02:21", "end": "03:02:26", "text": "have to get it reviewed based off the agreements that I've signed. Now, the guy with the eye patch doesn't. He just"}, {"start": "03:02:26", "end": "03:02:32", "text": "blows it off. But, but I have to cuz they came after me for the first one. So, I'm going to submit this one for"}, {"start": "03:02:32", "end": "03:02:38", "text": "review. But now they've sat on it for six months and they don't want it to get out, right? They they don't want my"}, {"start": "03:02:38", "end": "03:02:45", "text": "version, this story that we're telling, right? They don't want this out in written form because it makes them look bad. And so 6 months they've been"}, {"start": "03:02:45", "end": "03:02:50", "text": "sitting on it. But there's nothing classified in the"}, {"start": "03:02:50", "end": "03:02:56", "text": "book. Correct. Unless they don't want me talking about something that they don't want me talking about it. So, what if you were"}, {"start": "03:02:56", "end": "03:03:02", "text": "to write a book on, I don't know, fixing up your"}, {"start": "03:03:02", "end": "03:03:09", "text": "Have to submit it. 1950s truck. Have to submit it."}, {"start": "03:03:09", "end": "03:03:15", "text": "Based off how they've come after me, I wouldn't dare not get it submitted. Think of all the drama I've been through"}, {"start": "03:03:15", "end": "03:03:21", "text": "because my book did not get submitted. So, so I'm not about to submit another bug to publisher without getting it"}, {"start": "03:03:21", "end": "03:03:26", "text": "reviewed. Well, but now they're they're sitting on this. Why would they sit on this? It's not because it's leaking"}, {"start": "03:03:26", "end": "03:03:31", "text": "tactics, techniques, and procedures. It's because it's exposing their hypocrisy and they don't want it, right?"}, {"start": "03:03:31", "end": "03:03:36", "text": "They don't want the story of So, how would they come after you? How would they come after you if there's no"}, {"start": "03:03:36", "end": "03:03:42", "text": "They just won't review the book. They'll just sit on it, let it die, and they know I I owe payments every month. And"}, {"start": "03:03:42", "end": "03:03:48", "text": "if I miss one payment, they've told me to my face. They'll come back and charge me back interest. And [ __ ] me. What would they What could they get you"}, {"start": "03:03:48", "end": "03:03:55", "text": "on if you bypass? I I have no idea. Could they get you on anything? They if"}, {"start": "03:03:55", "end": "03:04:01", "text": "they I mean I know they can [ __ ] get me. If they could get me on something, they would have. Yeah. If they could have got me on something,"}, {"start": "03:04:01", "end": "03:04:06", "text": "they tried for four years straight to get me on anything. And the only thing they could do was break me financially."}, {"start": "03:04:06", "end": "03:04:12", "text": "And And so I've got to this point and now I'm like, \"Okay, I'm telling the story. Nobody's going to believe it. I'"}, {"start": "03:04:12", "end": "03:04:18", "text": "I've I've shut up. I've fought my battles with the government. I fought the legal battles. I thought the Justice"}, {"start": "03:04:18", "end": "03:04:23", "text": "Department was going to be just. It's not. I I've waited"}, {"start": "03:04:23", "end": "03:04:29", "text": "12 years now for some sort of adult supervision to step in and be like, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "03:04:29", "end": "03:04:35", "text": "this is [ __ ] up. We need to fix this.\" Now, now I will say I will say we may"}, {"start": "03:04:35", "end": "03:04:43", "text": "have some potential good momentum. Literally last week, my attorney got a call um and there's some there's some"}, {"start": "03:04:43", "end": "03:04:49", "text": "potential that this administration is getting involved and um and hopefully I"}, {"start": "03:04:49", "end": "03:04:55", "text": "don't want to speak I don't want to think too optimistic because I've been shot in the face every time uh an an"}, {"start": "03:04:55", "end": "03:05:02", "text": "opportunity comes up, but um there is an option opportunity that the current administration is getting involved and"}, {"start": "03:05:02", "end": "03:05:08", "text": "and gonna help fix this. So, we'll see. Well, but I'll I'll believe it when I see it. Yeah, that would be great. Let's"}, {"start": "03:05:08", "end": "03:05:13", "text": "bring on Let's bring on our attorney and see if we need to clean anything up"}, {"start": "03:05:13", "end": "03:05:19", "text": "here. Great idea. Cool. Tim Tim Parloratory. How are you, sir?"}, {"start": "03:05:19", "end": "03:05:26", "text": "It's always good to see you. You, too, man. So, are you representing Matt?"}, {"start": "03:05:26", "end": "03:05:32", "text": "So, I have represented Matt for a number of years. Um, and I want to be clear."}, {"start": "03:05:32", "end": "03:05:37", "text": "Yeah, I'm here to talk about his case. I I don't represent him on his current"}, {"start": "03:05:37", "end": "03:05:43", "text": "dealings with the department. Uh and that's a decision that we made because"}, {"start": "03:05:43", "end": "03:05:48", "text": "as he goes, you know, to try and negotiate a better deal with the department."}, {"start": "03:05:48", "end": "03:05:56", "text": "It made sense for me to take a step away from it because since I also, you know, have represented the secretary. Um we"}, {"start": "03:05:56", "end": "03:06:02", "text": "want the decision to be made based on the merits as opposed to having anybody"}, {"start": "03:06:02", "end": "03:06:10", "text": "sit there and say, \"Oh, well, they just made a decision based on how his lawyer is also the secretary's lawyer.\" So, um,"}, {"start": "03:06:10", "end": "03:06:16", "text": "for that reason, I've stepped away from that piece of it. Um, you know, however,"}, {"start": "03:06:16", "end": "03:06:23", "text": "you know, look, I I maintain long relationships with all of all of my clients. So, um, you I consider Matt a a"}, {"start": "03:06:23", "end": "03:06:29", "text": "friend and a client and anything he needs, you know, I would help him with."}, {"start": "03:06:30", "end": "03:06:36", "text": "I mean, Tim, we met under similar circumstances. Yeah. So, we met through"}, {"start": "03:06:36", "end": "03:06:42", "text": "the Dallas Alexander, the Canadian sniper, when they came at me saying that, oh, there's all this classified"}, {"start": "03:06:42", "end": "03:06:48", "text": "material in there. What, you know, then we found out what it really was is they're [ __ ] humiliated because they"}, {"start": "03:06:48", "end": "03:06:54", "text": "fired one of their legendary snipers over a COVID vaccine and not wearing a mask,"}, {"start": "03:06:54", "end": "03:06:59", "text": "right? And uh they didn't want that out there. So, we gave them we gave them, you know,"}, {"start": "03:06:59", "end": "03:07:06", "text": "very politely gave them the finger and said, \"Fuck you. the episode's going back up. You were very polite about it, though."}, {"start": "03:07:06", "end": "03:07:11", "text": "But uh but uh you know, the this [ __ ] just"}, {"start": "03:07:11", "end": "03:07:17", "text": "keeps happening, you know, and Matt's uh Matt was actually I think the first"}, {"start": "03:07:17", "end": "03:07:23", "text": "person that I've heard about this [ __ ] happening to. Now it's happening again obviously with a new book, but it, you know, look, I"}, {"start": "03:07:23", "end": "03:07:29", "text": "mean, it was we've just seen so much corruption"}, {"start": "03:07:29", "end": "03:07:36", "text": "from the government, you know what I mean? in in I mean I was going to bring up Eddie Gallagher and the and the um"}, {"start": "03:07:36", "end": "03:07:44", "text": "and the Blackwater guys and Brad Giri but I think those fall under you know different different circumstances all"}, {"start": "03:07:44", "end": "03:07:51", "text": "just as you know even probably even more [ __ ] up than this but um but you know it's it's the [ __ ] it's Dallas Alexander"}, {"start": "03:07:51", "end": "03:07:59", "text": "I mean couple weeks ago we had a couple of Delta guys reach out wanting their episode pulled because Delta made a"}, {"start": "03:07:59", "end": "03:08:04", "text": "statement basically scaring the [ __ ] out of all their guys. Oh, you can't go on here. We're going to [ __ ] come after"}, {"start": "03:08:04", "end": "03:08:09", "text": "you legally. And I had to tell them, I'm I'm I'm [ __ ] tired of playing this"}, {"start": "03:08:09", "end": "03:08:15", "text": "game. Yeah. I am [ __ ] tired of this [ __ ] of of playing this game. And they're freaking these guys out. They're"}, {"start": "03:08:15", "end": "03:08:21", "text": "not allowed to talk about They think they're not allowed to talk about their own [ __ ] life,"}, {"start": "03:08:21", "end": "03:08:27", "text": "you know? And and I'm I'm not pulling it. I'm not doing it anymore. I'm not playing these stupid [ __ ] games. And"}, {"start": "03:08:27", "end": "03:08:33", "text": "so it's, you know, it's Chris Fetis. We had to get involved with Chris Fetis because"}, {"start": "03:08:33", "end": "03:08:40", "text": "we had people telling us that they're gonna they're gonna sue Chris and they're gonna do this and they're gonna come after him and they're gonna ruin"}, {"start": "03:08:40", "end": "03:08:46", "text": "his reputation. And it it just got to the point where I mean on that one I nobody even knows this but that one I"}, {"start": "03:08:46", "end": "03:08:51", "text": "called you and I said I'm I want to fund Chris's legal battle and I want him to"}, {"start": "03:08:51", "end": "03:08:58", "text": "[ __ ] whoever is making this [ __ ] up about him in coming after him and trying to ruin his [ __ ] life. We are going"}, {"start": "03:08:58", "end": "03:09:04", "text": "to sue him and then we're going to sue him again and then we're going to sue him again and then we're going to sue"}, {"start": "03:09:04", "end": "03:09:10", "text": "him again so they don't have anywhere to [ __ ] live. So their kids can't go to school. So they're I'm just I'm I'm so"}, {"start": "03:09:10", "end": "03:09:17", "text": "[ __ ] tired of people [ __ ] with these guys for coming on here telling their story. And because they tell their"}, {"start": "03:09:17", "end": "03:09:25", "text": "story, it jet launches their business and they're able to get out of the of the of the [ __ ] the Navy Seal"}, {"start": "03:09:25", "end": "03:09:30", "text": "operator mindset and move on with their [ __ ] lives. This is a problem that we"}, {"start": "03:09:30", "end": "03:09:37", "text": "keep seeing and a lot of it is um viewpoint or contentbased because we are"}, {"start": "03:09:37", "end": "03:09:43", "text": "treating people differently based on what they have to say whether people like it or not and also quite frankly"}, {"start": "03:09:43", "end": "03:09:52", "text": "what their rank is. Y and um I do want to clear up one point if you if you don't mind. Walt Alman has"}, {"start": "03:09:52", "end": "03:09:58", "text": "only been an admiral for a few months. Okay. and he was, you know, he was the"}, {"start": "03:09:58", "end": "03:10:04", "text": "common shipment at the Naval Academy before he recently put on one star and then he became the acting warcom"}, {"start": "03:10:04", "end": "03:10:10", "text": "commander when Jamie Sans got fired. So, a lot of the things that you were"}, {"start": "03:10:10", "end": "03:10:17", "text": "talking about with Matt that involved um you know where you were talking about Walt, the reality is that was before he"}, {"start": "03:10:17", "end": "03:10:26", "text": "transferred to that position. So it is the Warcom commander that you were referring to, but a lot of that was Sans, Keith Davids, Wyman Howard, you"}, {"start": "03:10:26", "end": "03:10:32", "text": "know, Matt's, you know, good friend who said, \"Delete me.\" And um and some of it even going back to Colin Green and"}, {"start": "03:10:32", "end": "03:10:39", "text": "before. But you know what you have here is you have these you know people that once you"}, {"start": "03:10:39", "end": "03:10:46", "text": "get above a certain rank it does become political and they are doing things you"}, {"start": "03:10:46", "end": "03:10:53", "text": "know not all of them but a lot of them are doing things to just try and get another star and to try and move up up"}, {"start": "03:10:53", "end": "03:10:58", "text": "the ladder. And so anybody who puts out information that may make them look bad"}, {"start": "03:10:58", "end": "03:11:04", "text": "or, you know, may upset somebody, they want to try and crush that. It's not"}, {"start": "03:11:04", "end": "03:11:14", "text": "right. And what they've done, I think Matt's case is one of the most extreme of this where because his factual"}, {"start": "03:11:14", "end": "03:11:20", "text": "unclassified book embarrassed President Obama that created"}, {"start": "03:11:20", "end": "03:11:27", "text": "this situation where they had to crush him. And you have these people, you know,"}, {"start": "03:11:27", "end": "03:11:33", "text": "making decisions saying, \"I want to hurt this guy. I want to crush this guy because he embarrassed me.\""}, {"start": "03:11:33", "end": "03:11:39", "text": "These people have never been to any form of combat like Matt's been in. That's what I'm I mean is that"}, {"start": "03:11:39", "end": "03:11:46", "text": "they have but they don't care. And this is this is the common thread that I see,"}, {"start": "03:11:46", "end": "03:11:53", "text": "you know, that I am going to pull back, you know, to Eddie Gallagher and Brad Giri and Jay Cal and all of those things"}, {"start": "03:11:53", "end": "03:12:00", "text": "where they pursue these vindictive prosecutions because they are angry at"}, {"start": "03:12:00", "end": "03:12:07", "text": "the individual as opposed to thinking about what is fair. And so because they're angry and because"}, {"start": "03:12:07", "end": "03:12:16", "text": "they have power, you know, they will have NCIS go after people and do these type of things or Air Force OSI or C or"}, {"start": "03:12:16", "end": "03:12:22", "text": "FBI, whoever or whatever the, you know, the British equivalent is uh for JCAL."}, {"start": "03:12:22", "end": "03:12:29", "text": "And ultimately you're unleashing complete incompetence from these investigation investigative"}, {"start": "03:12:29", "end": "03:12:36", "text": "agencies to try to pursue you know what is a political persecution."}, {"start": "03:12:36", "end": "03:12:42", "text": "You know NCIS was so bad years ago it used to be called NIS Naval"}, {"start": "03:12:42", "end": "03:12:47", "text": "Investigative Service. They had to do a whole rebrand and restructure because"}, {"start": "03:12:47", "end": "03:12:53", "text": "NIS had become such a politically driven organization to go out there and anybody"}, {"start": "03:12:53", "end": "03:12:59", "text": "that the admirals didn't like, they would, you know, trump up these investigations, you know, usually trying"}, {"start": "03:12:59", "end": "03:13:05", "text": "to accuse somebody of homosexuality because that's the easiest way to get rid of somebody you don't like. It used"}, {"start": "03:13:05", "end": "03:13:12", "text": "to be called the Admiral's Gestapo, okay? They they went through a reorganization, a rebranding,"}, {"start": "03:13:12", "end": "03:13:19", "text": "and yet in a lot of ways they're still doing the same thing. They did the same thing to Matt. And you I sit here and I"}, {"start": "03:13:19", "end": "03:13:28", "text": "look at it and I say, you know, they take a guy who has given his entire life"}, {"start": "03:13:28", "end": "03:13:35", "text": "to this. He's given his youth, his health, everything. put it out on the line to"}, {"start": "03:13:35", "end": "03:13:42", "text": "try and keep us safe, to try and to go out there and continuously deploy and when he gets to the end, they try"}, {"start": "03:13:42", "end": "03:13:49", "text": "and throw him away. It's something Eddie Gallagher and I talk about all the time where you sign up knowing that you're"}, {"start": "03:13:49", "end": "03:13:55", "text": "expendable, but they treat you as if you're disposable. And so what Matt went"}, {"start": "03:13:55", "end": "03:14:01", "text": "through of being excommunicated from the community and you know this better as"}, {"start": "03:14:01", "end": "03:14:09", "text": "well as anybody else when you go through that train you become a seal that is for a lot of people that's your"}, {"start": "03:14:09", "end": "03:14:14", "text": "identity that's your tribe that's you know what you are connected to and when"}, {"start": "03:14:14", "end": "03:14:20", "text": "you're then removed from that and excommunicated from it it has so many"}, {"start": "03:14:20", "end": "03:14:28", "text": "more negative effects you know PTSD is something that is exacerbated through a feeling of abandonment."}, {"start": "03:14:28", "end": "03:14:36", "text": "And yet the command, the military as a whole, the the leadership is taking not"}, {"start": "03:14:36", "end": "03:14:42", "text": "just a feeling of abandonment, they were creating actual abandonment. Yeah. and so many other clients that I've"}, {"start": "03:14:42", "end": "03:14:49", "text": "represented that you've never heard of that because the command is angry with them, they will not only kick them out,"}, {"start": "03:14:49", "end": "03:14:54", "text": "but they'll take their trident on the way out and they'll say, \"You were never a SEAL.\""}, {"start": "03:14:54", "end": "03:15:00", "text": "Mhm. Okay. guys who've done plenty of deployments,"}, {"start": "03:15:00", "end": "03:15:07", "text": "and I have clients like this where you look at their DD214 and they've done, you know, 15 deployments, Purple Heart,"}, {"start": "03:15:07", "end": "03:15:14", "text": "Silver Star, no Trident, not a member of the community. And so"}, {"start": "03:15:14", "end": "03:15:20", "text": "when they then go to try and go to a veterans event or something, you know, they want to go to Navy Seal Foundation"}, {"start": "03:15:20", "end": "03:15:28", "text": "for help because they're having difficulty, Navy Seal Foundation says, \"Nope, you're not a SEAL. You're not a"}, {"start": "03:15:28", "end": "03:15:34", "text": "part of us. You can't even attend reunions.\""}, {"start": "03:15:34", "end": "03:15:41", "text": "And you know, Matt is lucky that he got out and then they got angry at him after"}, {"start": "03:15:41", "end": "03:15:46", "text": "he already had his DD214 because had his timeline been a little"}, {"start": "03:15:46", "end": "03:15:52", "text": "bit different, I have no doubt that NSW would have wanted to take his Trident"}, {"start": "03:15:52", "end": "03:15:57", "text": "away from him so he'd be out there as one of the guys that put bullets into"}, {"start": "03:15:57", "end": "03:16:03", "text": "Bin Laden's body, but they could say, \"Oh, he's not a seal.\""}, {"start": "03:16:04", "end": "03:16:11", "text": "They tried to do with Eddie Gallagher. They tried to take his trident away. It It's"}, {"start": "03:16:11", "end": "03:16:18", "text": "It is bad for our people. It goes right back to what Matt was saying about"}, {"start": "03:16:18", "end": "03:16:24", "text": "leaders should be taking care of our people and not focusing on writing up"}, {"start": "03:16:24", "end": "03:16:29", "text": "their own awards and, you know, chasing their next promotion. And what they do"}, {"start": "03:16:29", "end": "03:16:35", "text": "is they see these people as an impediment to their next promotion. So if somebody makes them angry or"}, {"start": "03:16:35", "end": "03:16:41", "text": "embarrasses them in any way, well, we have to destroy them because they hurt my ability to get another"}, {"start": "03:16:41", "end": "03:16:49", "text": "star. So that that's kind of thematically how how did Matt hurt somebody's ability"}, {"start": "03:16:49", "end": "03:16:56", "text": "to get another star? Ah, because his superiors now have to answer to Obama"}, {"start": "03:16:56", "end": "03:17:04", "text": "of why did you let your guy put out his book before my version of offense?"}, {"start": "03:17:06", "end": "03:17:13", "text": "It's that petty. Yeah. Yeah. And when it comes down from the top of I want you to take care of"}, {"start": "03:17:13", "end": "03:17:20", "text": "this. Okay."}, {"start": "03:17:20", "end": "03:17:27", "text": "So, if that's true, how how were all these other people? Leon Petta"}, {"start": "03:17:27", "end": "03:17:33", "text": "Mhm. Obama. I mean, I I mean, I get it. It's I know what it is. I know what it is."}, {"start": "03:17:33", "end": "03:17:39", "text": "It's the content. It's the content. It's the It's the rank. It's the rank. The only [ __ ] thing that matters."}, {"start": "03:17:39", "end": "03:17:44", "text": "It's the rank and it's the content. We like what their rank is and we like what they have to say. Therefore, we're going"}, {"start": "03:17:44", "end": "03:17:50", "text": "to let him get away with it. John Bolton, perfect example, former"}, {"start": "03:17:50", "end": "03:17:56", "text": "national security adviser. He goes out and writes a book. He doesn't get the pre-publication review."}, {"start": "03:17:56", "end": "03:18:02", "text": "They start to go through putting him through the exact same process that they did to Matt,"}, {"start": "03:18:02", "end": "03:18:08", "text": "investigations and everything, but the election happens and so all of a sudden"}, {"start": "03:18:08", "end": "03:18:14", "text": "the White House turns over to Biden. Well, Biden liked what Bolton had to say"}, {"start": "03:18:14", "end": "03:18:19", "text": "because he wrote that Trump was bad. So therefore, all of a sudden, the Biden"}, {"start": "03:18:19", "end": "03:18:25", "text": "DOJ puts the brakes on and says, \"Oh, we're going to let Bolton go. let his"}, {"start": "03:18:25", "end": "03:18:31", "text": "book that has classified material in it go right ahead. Let him carry let him"}, {"start": "03:18:31", "end": "03:18:38", "text": "keep all of the revenue from his book that has classified material in it."}, {"start": "03:18:38", "end": "03:18:43", "text": "But at the same time, we want to make sure that we still crush Matt, whose"}, {"start": "03:18:43", "end": "03:18:50", "text": "book doesn't have classified material in it, but has content that we don't like."}, {"start": "03:18:51", "end": "03:18:57", "text": "you know, when when his attorney,"}, {"start": "03:18:57", "end": "03:19:03", "text": "you know, Kevin Powski was the attorney that um that had given them this bad advice."}, {"start": "03:19:03", "end": "03:19:09", "text": "When he settled that lawsuit, one of the biggest impediments that that Matt had during this process was that the"}, {"start": "03:19:09", "end": "03:19:15", "text": "attorney had lied to DOJ. He lied and he said, \"I told him he had to get it"}, {"start": "03:19:15", "end": "03:19:22", "text": "reviewed.\" and that was their lynch pin cuz his whole defense is my attorney told me"}, {"start": "03:19:22", "end": "03:19:28", "text": "this was okay and they could say well we talked to him and he said that's not true. So now they have a witness against"}, {"start": "03:19:28", "end": "03:19:34", "text": "him. They get him to take this settlement and I didn't represent him at the time by"}, {"start": "03:19:34", "end": "03:19:41", "text": "the way. He then gets this um gets this malpractice settlement and"}, {"start": "03:19:41", "end": "03:19:47", "text": "in the malpractice settlement yeah I got to give him a lot of credit. I didn't handle it, but whoever handled it got"}, {"start": "03:19:47", "end": "03:19:52", "text": "him a great settlement where Pedloski actually admitted in the settlement that"}, {"start": "03:19:52", "end": "03:19:59", "text": "he had given him this advice. Usually settlements have one of those, you know, neither side admit that they"}, {"start": "03:19:59", "end": "03:20:05", "text": "did anything wrong, but he actually admitted what he did. And that was something that, you know, I then came"}, {"start": "03:20:05", "end": "03:20:12", "text": "into this and I was able to take that back to DOJ and say, \"See, you brought this whole thing based on a"}, {"start": "03:20:12", "end": "03:20:19", "text": "false premise. You had a witness who lied to you, which is a crime, by the way. You have a witness who lied to you,"}, {"start": "03:20:19", "end": "03:20:26", "text": "and now you have proof that everything Matt did was on the advice of counsel."}, {"start": "03:20:26", "end": "03:20:33", "text": "And one thing to understand is that the consent decree that he entered into on this, the cause of action was breach of"}, {"start": "03:20:33", "end": "03:20:39", "text": "contract. He breached the contract that says before you submit something or before"}, {"start": "03:20:39", "end": "03:20:45", "text": "you publish something, you have to submit it for pre-publication review. If he was relying upon the advice of"}, {"start": "03:20:45", "end": "03:20:50", "text": "counsel, that's a defense that he would have had it been litigated at at the"}, {"start": "03:20:50", "end": "03:20:57", "text": "time. Because we finally had this information, I went to the court and I tried to file"}, {"start": "03:20:57", "end": "03:21:02", "text": "a motion to vacate the consent decree and to change, you know, the result to"}, {"start": "03:21:02", "end": "03:21:09", "text": "match the actual facts. DOJ opposed me. They said, \"Too much"}, {"start": "03:21:09", "end": "03:21:16", "text": "time has passed. you know, this should have been done, you know, within, you know, whatever it is, six months of the"}, {"start": "03:21:16", "end": "03:21:21", "text": "of the consent decree being entered, even though the statute does say, yes,"}, {"start": "03:21:21", "end": "03:21:27", "text": "there's a timeline, but it says and it can go after that for good cause shown. The good cause shown from my perspective"}, {"start": "03:21:27", "end": "03:21:35", "text": "is this is something that he didn't have at the time. As soon as we had it available, we brought it to the court."}, {"start": "03:21:35", "end": "03:21:43", "text": "But the problem is that the courts don't really like to change things. You know, they like finality in the judgments. And"}, {"start": "03:21:43", "end": "03:21:50", "text": "so ultimately DOJ opposed us, not factually, just on, well, they should have done this earlier. And the judge"}, {"start": "03:21:50", "end": "03:21:57", "text": "agreed and said, well, too much time has passed, so we're going to leave this judgment in place."}, {"start": "03:21:58", "end": "03:22:06", "text": "that at that point that left me with no op no no no real options other than to try and negotiate down for him and the"}, {"start": "03:22:06", "end": "03:22:12", "text": "only way that we could really negotiate down at that point was based on an ability to pay."}, {"start": "03:22:12", "end": "03:22:20", "text": "Now there's a key aspect of this financial settlement that you need to understand which is taxes"}, {"start": "03:22:20", "end": "03:22:26", "text": "because when he got the money from the book originally he paid taxes on it portion"}, {"start": "03:22:26", "end": "03:22:33", "text": "went to his attorney. Now you have, you know, 1.5 million."}, {"start": "03:22:33", "end": "03:22:40", "text": "You, as he said, he's got, you know, a little bit under $4,000 he's got to pay back a month. But he's not allowed to"}, {"start": "03:22:40", "end": "03:22:46", "text": "claim that as a deduction or an expense on his tax return."}, {"start": "03:22:46", "end": "03:22:55", "text": "So in order to make the $4,000 payments, he's got to earn $6,000 a month pre-tax"}, {"start": "03:22:55", "end": "03:23:01", "text": "just to pay that. So that $1.5 million figure, he really"}, {"start": "03:23:01", "end": "03:23:10", "text": "has to earn, you know, more like $2.5 to$3 million just to be able to pay it."}, {"start": "03:23:10", "end": "03:23:15", "text": "And that's not something, you know, the IRS is not going to give him any um any"}, {"start": "03:23:15", "end": "03:23:21", "text": "break on that. Yeah. He's essentially paying tax on this thing twice. He paid the tax on it when he first got the"}, {"start": "03:23:21", "end": "03:23:31", "text": "revenue and he's paying tax on it a second time to try and pay it back. And all of it goes into the US Treasury."}, {"start": "03:23:31", "end": "03:23:36", "text": "So between the taxes and the forfeite, the Treasury is making a ton of money"}, {"start": "03:23:36", "end": "03:23:42", "text": "off of this guy. Damn."}, {"start": "03:23:44", "end": "03:23:53", "text": "Why are they holding his book up? Pre-publication review is"}, {"start": "03:23:53", "end": "03:23:59", "text": "a messed up process. Okay. I've done it with other clients and you know he's"}, {"start": "03:23:59", "end": "03:24:05", "text": "right. Anybody who has signed one of these agreements has to have their book"}, {"start": "03:24:05", "end": "03:24:10", "text": "uh submitted. Now if it's a cookbook, nobody's going to really, you know,"}, {"start": "03:24:10", "end": "03:24:15", "text": "throw a fit over it. Um some guys do actually, you know, are that careful"}, {"start": "03:24:15", "end": "03:24:21", "text": "with it. But and for him, I would definitely be that careful with it. If he was going to write a cookbook, he"}, {"start": "03:24:21", "end": "03:24:27", "text": "should submit it. What happens is it goes to the main office at at DO uh"}, {"start": "03:24:27", "end": "03:24:33", "text": "Department of War that does a pre-publication review. They do a first read of the book. They then decide,"}, {"start": "03:24:33", "end": "03:24:38", "text": "okay, how many different agencies have a stake in this and then they'll send the"}, {"start": "03:24:38", "end": "03:24:45", "text": "portions off to those agencies. And so a big portion of this obviously"}, {"start": "03:24:45", "end": "03:24:51", "text": "goes to Naval Special Warfare Command. Some of it may go to the CIA. some of for his portion of it will definitely go"}, {"start": "03:24:51", "end": "03:24:58", "text": "to NCIS um because of the content of this third book."}, {"start": "03:24:58", "end": "03:25:06", "text": "There's nothing classified in there. You know, there's no there's nothing that NCIS has to be concerned about. And"}, {"start": "03:25:06", "end": "03:25:12", "text": "the de, you know, the government is not allowed to edit your book in any way or to the"}, {"start": "03:25:12", "end": "03:25:20", "text": "only two things that they're allowed to object to is classified material"}, {"start": "03:25:20", "end": "03:25:26", "text": "and a misstatement of government policy. Those are the only two things that"}, {"start": "03:25:26", "end": "03:25:32", "text": "they're supposed to remove. But the way that they do this where they form it out to all the different"}, {"start": "03:25:32", "end": "03:25:38", "text": "agencies and yeah, I don't want to defend them on this and say that they're not holding it up because I think that"}, {"start": "03:25:38", "end": "03:25:45", "text": "they probably are. But the reality is when you send it over to Naval Special Warfare Command,"}, {"start": "03:25:45", "end": "03:25:52", "text": "there are just so many SEALs writing books that they have a backlog there. I mean, it's it's just a fact."}, {"start": "03:25:52", "end": "03:25:58", "text": "That actually doesn't surprise me. You can publish a Green Beret book a lot faster than a seal book."}, {"start": "03:25:58", "end": "03:26:04", "text": "Does anybody read those though? Well, they're not as I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Um I know there's at least one person out"}, {"start": "03:26:04", "end": "03:26:13", "text": "there. You could publish I'm just [ __ ] around. You can you can publish a Surface Warfare book really fast."}, {"start": "03:26:14", "end": "03:26:21", "text": "So, so there is that. Yeah, I do think that there's probably some element of dragging their feet and you know, once"}, {"start": "03:26:21", "end": "03:26:28", "text": "once you get it back, you know, they'll have a whole bunch of stuff blacked out. Uh, and some of it's silly. Like some of"}, {"start": "03:26:28", "end": "03:26:34", "text": "it you you know it's like you know if if anytime you know for a book like his anytime you see a number somewhere"}, {"start": "03:26:34", "end": "03:26:41", "text": "between five and seven that'll be you know a little black box. Um you know"}, {"start": "03:26:41", "end": "03:26:47", "text": "green team is something that'll be blacked out. You know things that are you certainly public domain"}, {"start": "03:26:47", "end": "03:26:54", "text": "um that they'll still black it. Eddie's book. When Eddie Gallagher submitted his book, they tried to redact out portions"}, {"start": "03:26:54", "end": "03:27:01", "text": "of it because they were embarrassed about the name of the Iraqi unit that his unit"}, {"start": "03:27:01", "end": "03:27:06", "text": "had been assigned to. And they tried to say that was classified."}, {"start": "03:27:06", "end": "03:27:11", "text": "And I went back to them. I said, \"Yeah, how is that possibly classified?\" Well,"}, {"start": "03:27:11", "end": "03:27:17", "text": "that's what they said. So, yeah, here's the transcript where the prosecutor said"}, {"start": "03:27:17", "end": "03:27:23", "text": "the name of that unit seven times in his opening statement in front of a courtroom full of media. So, if that's"}, {"start": "03:27:23", "end": "03:27:31", "text": "classified, you need to prosecute the prosecutor. Okay, you can put that in the book."}, {"start": "03:27:31", "end": "03:27:37", "text": "So there is still a negotiation process at at that stage but yeah it does take a"}, {"start": "03:27:37", "end": "03:27:42", "text": "long time and it takes even longer when you know somebody you know doesn't want"}, {"start": "03:27:42", "end": "03:27:47", "text": "this book to come out and that really goes back to the original problem that"}, {"start": "03:27:47", "end": "03:27:54", "text": "Matt had is his publisher wanted his book out before the election."}, {"start": "03:27:54", "end": "03:27:59", "text": "That's why the publisher gave him a lawyer who said, \"I can help you do this"}, {"start": "03:27:59", "end": "03:28:06", "text": "so it gets out before the election.\" Because if he had done it the right way, if he had been advised by a different"}, {"start": "03:28:06", "end": "03:28:11", "text": "lawyer who said, \"This is what you legally have to do,\" the book would have"}, {"start": "03:28:11", "end": "03:28:17", "text": "been published after the election. It would have been published after the movie. It would have been published"}, {"start": "03:28:17", "end": "03:28:25", "text": "after the the other, you know, the Mark Bowen book. he wouldn't have had any problems."}, {"start": "03:28:25", "end": "03:28:31", "text": "He would have been able to keep 100% of the revenue, but you know, it wouldn't it would have"}, {"start": "03:28:31", "end": "03:28:38", "text": "been timed the way that the administration had wanted it to be timed."}, {"start": "03:28:39", "end": "03:28:43", "text": "Makes sense. Unfortunately,"}, {"start": "03:28:45", "end": "03:28:53", "text": "do you think anything Do you think Matt has anything to worry about with the new book? No. No, not at all. No. And"}, {"start": "03:28:53", "end": "03:28:59", "text": "you know, with the second book, with the third book, he's got nothing to worry about there because he's following the"}, {"start": "03:28:59", "end": "03:29:05", "text": "process. He's not doing what the original lawyer said. And so, as long as you follow the process"}, {"start": "03:29:05", "end": "03:29:10", "text": "there, you have nothing to worry about. Is there any time limit or can this just"}, {"start": "03:29:10", "end": "03:29:16", "text": "drag on for years and years? At a certain point,"}, {"start": "03:29:16", "end": "03:29:23", "text": "if it is clear that the government is dragging its feet, you can file a lawsuit. At that point, how can you how"}, {"start": "03:29:23", "end": "03:29:28", "text": "can you know what what amount of time will go through"}, {"start": "03:29:28", "end": "03:29:34", "text": "will go with Matt's book before his attorney advises him to [ __ ] file a"}, {"start": "03:29:34", "end": "03:29:39", "text": "lawsuit? It's no specific timeline. like it's it's there there's no specific"}, {"start": "03:29:39", "end": "03:29:47", "text": "deadline, but if it's sitting there for 12 months and it hasn't been acted on and he decides to file a lawsuit, here's"}, {"start": "03:29:47", "end": "03:29:55", "text": "what's going to happen. He'll file a lawsuit. DOJ will get it. You know, DOJ uh is the"}, {"start": "03:29:55", "end": "03:30:03", "text": "agency that defends every other government entity. they will all of a sudden spit out the"}, {"start": "03:30:03", "end": "03:30:10", "text": "fully reviewed book before they before their deadline to respond to the lawsuit comes."}, {"start": "03:30:10", "end": "03:30:15", "text": "How did I know you were going to say that? And then they're going to put in a response saying, \"We don't know what"}, {"start": "03:30:15", "end": "03:30:24", "text": "he's talking about, judge. You know, we've we've complied with our obligations, so therefore we move to dismiss the lawsuit.\""}, {"start": "03:30:26", "end": "03:30:32", "text": "So why couldn't he just file one right now? It's still a little bit early."}, {"start": "03:30:32", "end": "03:30:38", "text": "You just filed the lawsuit with the review. By the way, if this isn't done next"}, {"start": "03:30:38", "end": "03:30:45", "text": "week, I'm going to sue your You know, it's it's difficult because again, the the timelines"}, {"start": "03:30:45", "end": "03:30:51", "text": "for seal books are so much longer just based on the on the volume. Now, it would be"}, {"start": "03:30:51", "end": "03:30:56", "text": "worthwhile potentially because I don't think that they publish these numbers. it would be worthwhile potentially to"}, {"start": "03:30:56", "end": "03:31:05", "text": "file a FOIA to find out what is the average uh length of um reviews and then"}, {"start": "03:31:05", "end": "03:31:13", "text": "once you can you know through the Freedom of Information I get what the timeline statistics are on you know"}, {"start": "03:31:13", "end": "03:31:18", "text": "books in general seal books green beret books compare those and then once you"}, {"start": "03:31:18", "end": "03:31:24", "text": "have that timeline you can see okay if it takes an average of you know two months for a green beret book six months"}, {"start": "03:31:24", "end": "03:31:29", "text": "for a seal book and 8 months for a map beset book."}, {"start": "03:31:29", "end": "03:31:36", "text": "Now you know that they're delaying you. Gotcha. Gotcha."}, {"start": "03:31:36", "end": "03:31:43", "text": "But ultimately the people that are administering this are career GS civilians."}, {"start": "03:31:43", "end": "03:31:50", "text": "This process is not something that any of the political appointees, you know, really, you know, have have that much"}, {"start": "03:31:50", "end": "03:31:56", "text": "visibility on because it's something that's kind of it's administratively handled at that lower level, which is of"}, {"start": "03:31:56", "end": "03:32:02", "text": "course where all of the, you know, the deep state lives. And so,"}, {"start": "03:32:02", "end": "03:32:09", "text": "um, it's the kind of thing that once you kind of bring light to it, then maybe people up above say, \"Okay, maybe we"}, {"start": "03:32:09", "end": "03:32:17", "text": "need to fix this process. And I'm just so so [ __ ] tired of"}, {"start": "03:32:17", "end": "03:32:23", "text": "people [ __ ] with these guys just for telling their story. Yeah, I'd have to"}, {"start": "03:32:23", "end": "03:32:30", "text": "go back and look. I think it took Eddie about seven or eight months to get his book reviewed. And everything in his"}, {"start": "03:32:30", "end": "03:32:36", "text": "book was stuff that had happened in an open courtroom."}, {"start": "03:32:36", "end": "03:32:43", "text": "You know, we we thought, you know, this book will take two weeks to review. All you have to do is read through real"}, {"start": "03:32:43", "end": "03:32:48", "text": "quick and see that he's not talking about any operations."}, {"start": "03:32:48", "end": "03:32:57", "text": "Everything happened in an open courtroom. So yeah, but no, still took very long time."}, {"start": "03:32:59", "end": "03:33:06", "text": "Man, this [ __ ] is pissing me off, you know? I mean, Matt just said it. I mean, we me and you have talked especially"}, {"start": "03:33:06", "end": "03:33:12", "text": "with the Chris Fetta stuff. Yeah. Like that really [ __ ] pissed me off. Yeah. And you know, and we had had discussions"}, {"start": "03:33:12", "end": "03:33:18", "text": "that I I said this is a this is a reason why these guys are [ __ ] killing themselves, right? Because they're not allowed to share"}, {"start": "03:33:18", "end": "03:33:23", "text": "their story. And if they do, they get ostracized by either"}, {"start": "03:33:23", "end": "03:33:30", "text": "the leaders at the command or the operators at that command. And when when that happened to Chris, I I just want to"}, {"start": "03:33:30", "end": "03:33:35", "text": "clarify because I was pissed and I don't think I said it properly. But first, the"}, {"start": "03:33:35", "end": "03:33:41", "text": "first thing was, oh, the CIA's pissed because they don't want that getting out. Then it was some of the operators"}, {"start": "03:33:41", "end": "03:33:48", "text": "over at Dev Group. Then it was then we knew exactly who it was, right? And you know, it's always these [ __ ]"}, {"start": "03:33:48", "end": "03:33:53", "text": "people who are lurking in the shadows who never want to be revealed. We found"}, {"start": "03:33:53", "end": "03:34:00", "text": "out who that was and it was if you if there is any defamation, any [ __ ]"}, {"start": "03:34:00", "end": "03:34:07", "text": "non-truths in whatever is going to come out about Chris, I am going to [ __ ] sue your ass for defamation. You know,"}, {"start": "03:34:07", "end": "03:34:14", "text": "and and and then magically we never heard another [ __ ] word about it. Correct."}, {"start": "03:34:14", "end": "03:34:19", "text": "Correct. I'm just sick of this [ __ ] And then we get [ __ ] Walt Alman coming on about"}, {"start": "03:34:19", "end": "03:34:26", "text": "Pete about Pete Scobel talking about some [ __ ] that happened 15 [ __ ] years ago on about equipment that they don't"}, {"start": "03:34:26", "end": "03:34:33", "text": "even use anymore. It's another thing that I've seen where people that leave before they retire."}, {"start": "03:34:33", "end": "03:34:39", "text": "You know, you know, when I left the first time, you know, I I left as an 03."}, {"start": "03:34:39", "end": "03:34:44", "text": "And I see a lot of veterans that that leave and they kind of mentally freeze"}, {"start": "03:34:44", "end": "03:34:51", "text": "at that rank. And so what happened with Pete is very consistent with what I've"}, {"start": "03:34:51", "end": "03:34:57", "text": "seen with other people where they'll have a high ranking officer reach out to a veteran of a certain rank and treat"}, {"start": "03:34:57", "end": "03:35:02", "text": "them the same as that as if they were still a lieutenant"}, {"start": "03:35:02", "end": "03:35:09", "text": "uh or you know or a junior enlisted guy and you know use that positional"}, {"start": "03:35:09", "end": "03:35:16", "text": "authority over them. And you know, some veterans, they still fall into that. I mean,"}, {"start": "03:35:16", "end": "03:35:24", "text": "that's that's one of my beliefs when it comes to, you know, our friend the oneeyed congressman is that"}, {"start": "03:35:24", "end": "03:35:31", "text": "when Krenshaw, right? Because when Warcom wants him to do something like stay out of the Eddie"}, {"start": "03:35:31", "end": "03:35:37", "text": "Gallagher case, they'll send a flag officer to talk to him and, you know,"}, {"start": "03:35:37", "end": "03:35:43", "text": "tell him, \"Hey, Lieutenant Commander, this is what it is.\" And he just nods"}, {"start": "03:35:43", "end": "03:35:48", "text": "and salutes and says, \"Yeah, oh yes, sir. A video of him committing murder. Yes,"}, {"start": "03:35:48", "end": "03:35:54", "text": "sir. I won't I won't support him, sir.\" I mean, that's that's my belief is that"}, {"start": "03:35:54", "end": "03:36:03", "text": "just seeing how he blindly parrots whatever the senior leaders want him to."}, {"start": "03:36:03", "end": "03:36:08", "text": "Yeah, I think that they take advantage of that. I I think there was an element of that of, hey, if we call up, you"}, {"start": "03:36:08", "end": "03:36:14", "text": "know, Lieutenant Scobel and just, you know, tell him, hey, you need to do this."}, {"start": "03:36:14", "end": "03:36:20", "text": "Harass him? You mean [ __ ] harass him? Yeah. There are certain things"}, {"start": "03:36:20", "end": "03:36:26", "text": "I want to get somebody to I know there are certain things just like they're trying to make an"}, {"start": "03:36:26", "end": "03:36:33", "text": "example out of these guys. I want to find one of these [ __ ] and make an example out of him."}, {"start": "03:36:33", "end": "03:36:39", "text": "There are things that we don't want people to say. You know, there are obviously classification you issues. We"}, {"start": "03:36:39", "end": "03:36:45", "text": "don't want people going out and revealing, you know, secret missions and things like that."}, {"start": "03:36:45", "end": "03:36:50", "text": "I I get that. But you know what we're talking about? People aren't even clearing [ __ ]"}, {"start": "03:36:50", "end": "03:36:57", "text": "rooms anymore. They have drones for this [ __ ] now. We're talking to [ __ ] dinosaurs in here. This is B. This is no"}, {"start": "03:36:57", "end": "03:37:03", "text": "different than me talking to Don Graves about Eoima, right? Like,"}, {"start": "03:37:03", "end": "03:37:09", "text": "good job. You cleared a [ __ ] house. We don't do that [ __ ] anymore. We have robots that do this for us. But let's"}, {"start": "03:37:09", "end": "03:37:14", "text": "still attack them, you know, for [ __ ] that we don't even let's let's still attack them for [ __ ] giving up"}, {"start": "03:37:14", "end": "03:37:21", "text": "tactics that we don't even [ __ ] do. We don't even have humans on the [ __ ] battlefield barely anymore. Give me a"}, {"start": "03:37:21", "end": "03:37:28", "text": "break, man. Like, [ __ ] off. And part of the problem is that the people that are trying to hurt these"}, {"start": "03:37:28", "end": "03:37:33", "text": "guys are ones that they they don't really fully understand the rules themselves. Yeah. Because they've never been on the"}, {"start": "03:37:33", "end": "03:37:39", "text": "[ __ ] battlefield. Well, there's that, too. They don't understand, you know, they may not fully"}, {"start": "03:37:39", "end": "03:37:46", "text": "understand what the law is on these things, what the regulations actually say that people can and can't say,"}, {"start": "03:37:46", "end": "03:37:52", "text": "you know, when, you know, for example, while you have to get review to talk"}, {"start": "03:37:52", "end": "03:37:59", "text": "about operational stuff, any military member can go out there and talk about their personal experiences."}, {"start": "03:37:59", "end": "03:38:06", "text": "And so the morning after the verdict in the Eddie Gallagher trial, Eddie went on"}, {"start": "03:38:06", "end": "03:38:13", "text": "uh Fox and Friends and did his first ever media interview. I was with him. Um"}, {"start": "03:38:13", "end": "03:38:18", "text": "and it was Pete Hexth that did the interview and he talked about his personal experiences of going through"}, {"start": "03:38:18", "end": "03:38:25", "text": "this trial. All of which happened in a room that was full of media. And wouldn't you know it, within an hour I"}, {"start": "03:38:25", "end": "03:38:32", "text": "get a call from the Warcom Jag saying, \"We're thinking about charging him, you know, for having done this interview.\""}, {"start": "03:38:32", "end": "03:38:38", "text": "And I said, \"Really?\" Okay. What do you think he did wrong? Well, he didn't get approval. He's talked about No, no, no."}, {"start": "03:38:38", "end": "03:38:44", "text": "Okay. Why don't you pull out the Warcom public affairs instruction? We'll read it"}, {"start": "03:38:44", "end": "03:38:50", "text": "together. What paragraph are you looking at? Uh, well, uh, uh, no, no, no. You pull up"}, {"start": "03:38:50", "end": "03:38:56", "text": "the instruction. I'll wait. Well, um, it's not really in Yeah,"}, {"start": "03:38:56", "end": "03:39:01", "text": "exactly. It's not in there. So, you're threatening him for violating a"}, {"start": "03:39:01", "end": "03:39:08", "text": "instruction that you didn't even read before calling me up and threatening that you're going to charge him with."}, {"start": "03:39:08", "end": "03:39:14", "text": "I read it first. I know what he was allowed to say. And I set up the"}, {"start": "03:39:14", "end": "03:39:19", "text": "interview so he could talk about the things that he was allowed to talk about and so he wouldn't talk about the things"}, {"start": "03:39:19", "end": "03:39:25", "text": "he wasn't. So take your threat"}, {"start": "03:39:25", "end": "03:39:31", "text": "and go [ __ ] yourself. That happened, but and that's what"}, {"start": "03:39:31", "end": "03:39:39", "text": "happens frequently, but people maybe aren't able to push back at the introductory stage like I"}, {"start": "03:39:39", "end": "03:39:47", "text": "was. And so they'll call Pete Scobel and threaten him. They'll, you know,"}, {"start": "03:39:47", "end": "03:39:54", "text": "somebody may be dumb enough to try and, you know, threaten Matt here. They'll send threats to Chris Fettis."}, {"start": "03:39:54", "end": "03:40:00", "text": "Tom Sadderly. You know, you you called me up about him that somebody, you know, was telling him he should try and take"}, {"start": "03:40:00", "end": "03:40:07", "text": "down the interview from three years ago talking about what he did in Moadishu"}, {"start": "03:40:07", "end": "03:40:12", "text": "back in the '9s. It's classified, Tim. No, it's people"}, {"start": "03:40:12", "end": "03:40:20", "text": "that are just trying to control and they don't even know what the rules are themselves."}, {"start": "03:40:23", "end": "03:40:29", "text": "You know, I just I don't think there's more to cover. Is"}, {"start": "03:40:29", "end": "03:40:35", "text": "there with me and you right now? Is there anything else we need to cover?"}, {"start": "03:40:35", "end": "03:40:42", "text": "Then what what I want to ask you is I mean because it's my [ __ ] podcast that you know that is getting everybody"}, {"start": "03:40:42", "end": "03:40:49", "text": "in trouble. So it's my [ __ ] podcast. So you know what what and all these guys"}, {"start": "03:40:49", "end": "03:40:55", "text": "watch my podcast. And so what you know what I want to ask is you know for the for anybody who's wanting to tell their"}, {"start": "03:40:55", "end": "03:41:01", "text": "story or share their experience or document history or get their business off the ground or whatever whatever"}, {"start": "03:41:01", "end": "03:41:08", "text": "their motivation is for coming out and sharing their story when these [ __ ] [ __ ] come after them whether that's"}, {"start": "03:41:08", "end": "03:41:14", "text": "their you know uh former colleagues or you know the head shade of the command."}, {"start": "03:41:14", "end": "03:41:21", "text": "I mean, what what steps should they take if for the next guy that comes on my show and gets harassed by some other"}, {"start": "03:41:21", "end": "03:41:29", "text": "[ __ ] admiral or general or whoever? I mean, what steps do they need to take?"}, {"start": "03:41:31", "end": "03:41:38", "text": "I wish I had a better answer than this, but the reality is that the best answer is"}, {"start": "03:41:38", "end": "03:41:43", "text": "to get a lawyer who knows this system and push back."}, {"start": "03:41:43", "end": "03:41:48", "text": "No. And"}, {"start": "03:41:48", "end": "03:41:54", "text": "you know, now you're giving me an idea that you and I should sit down. This could have been a better advertisement"}, {"start": "03:41:54", "end": "03:42:00", "text": "for yourself, Tim. I'm just I'm just I'm not here to promote my business. I'm here to I'm not here to promote my"}, {"start": "03:42:00", "end": "03:42:05", "text": "business. I'm here to help help out a friend than a client. But you know what? You're giving me an idea. Why don't you"}, {"start": "03:42:05", "end": "03:42:12", "text": "and I sit down, you know, later and pull all the public affairs instructions and all the rules from the"}, {"start": "03:42:12", "end": "03:42:18", "text": "various services and we can put together a little bit of a guide. You know, it's something that, you know, I had actually"}, {"start": "03:42:18", "end": "03:42:24", "text": "suggested to Walt Alman as as an idea of,"}, {"start": "03:42:24", "end": "03:42:30", "text": "you know, people need guidance. You know, if they don't know the law or the rules, they"}, {"start": "03:42:30", "end": "03:42:37", "text": "need to be trained on it. But you know what? you know just simply you know what they did in the wake of Matt's you know"}, {"start": "03:42:37", "end": "03:42:42", "text": "first book where they just started you know going out with the whole oh we are supposed to be quiet professionals I do"}, {"start": "03:42:42", "end": "03:42:49", "text": "not advertise the nature of our work that's [ __ ] okay it doesn't help anybody you need to give specific"}, {"start": "03:42:49", "end": "03:42:55", "text": "actionable guidance this is where this is what the law is the law says you're"}, {"start": "03:42:55", "end": "03:43:01", "text": "allowed to talk about these things says don't talk about this"}, {"start": "03:43:01", "end": "03:43:08", "text": "okay so maybe maybe you and I should sit down and I'll I'll you know create a little guide on this because if you know"}, {"start": "03:43:08", "end": "03:43:15", "text": "if the commands are not going to properly train their people on it and the reality is so many of these guys are"}, {"start": "03:43:15", "end": "03:43:21", "text": "out you know they've been out for 10 15 years and so you know they're not going to you know Warcom is not going to be"}, {"start": "03:43:21", "end": "03:43:28", "text": "sending um a training PowerPoint to Pete Scobel at this point but you know maybe that's"}, {"start": "03:43:28", "end": "03:43:35", "text": "something that we should do and you know to educate people because the reality is"}, {"start": "03:43:35", "end": "03:43:42", "text": "these stories are important. They're important not only for everybody who, you know, who watches this and and"}, {"start": "03:43:42", "end": "03:43:48", "text": "listens to this, but they're important for the people telling the stories"}, {"start": "03:43:48", "end": "03:43:54", "text": "because it's therapeutic for them. And then it's also therapeutic to other veterans who listen to this and watch"}, {"start": "03:43:54", "end": "03:43:59", "text": "this and they see their own story reflected there. And it's probably the"}, {"start": "03:43:59", "end": "03:44:06", "text": "biggest recruiting tool in the [ __ ] country. True. To come on this show. True. And talk about all the badass [ __ ] you did."}, {"start": "03:44:06", "end": "03:44:11", "text": "True. So, um, so the answer is I need to do some"}, {"start": "03:44:11", "end": "03:44:18", "text": "homework for you, Sean. And I'll I'll write something up. Well, I appreciate you, Tim. It's always"}, {"start": "03:44:18", "end": "03:44:24", "text": "good to see you. You, too. You, too. Do I get gummy bears here? Cuz"}, {"start": "03:44:24", "end": "03:44:29", "text": "I'll definitely I will we will load you up. I was gonna say, \"Don't look like you're eating any of the gummy bears lately, though, Tim. I'm"}, {"start": "03:44:29", "end": "03:44:35", "text": "not for my wife.\" My wife gets mad at me if I don't come back for gummy bears. We will load you up. We got some other"}, {"start": "03:44:35", "end": "03:44:41", "text": "stuff, too. So, but thanks for coming on, man. Thank you."}, {"start": "03:44:43", "end": "03:44:50", "text": "Want to stay up to date on all things SRS? You bet your ass you do. Our newsletter brings you the latest SRS"}, {"start": "03:44:50", "end": "03:44:55", "text": "news and critical updates. Get instant alerts on the newest episodes. Never"}, {"start": "03:44:55", "end": "03:45:01", "text": "miss a beat. Exclusive intel briefs from counterterrorism expert Sarah Adams."}, {"start": "03:45:01", "end": "03:45:07", "text": "You've seen her many times on the show. She's going to give unfiltered insights on global terrorist activity. For"}, {"start": "03:45:07", "end": "03:45:14", "text": "Patreon exclusives, you're going to get epic range days with me and damn near every guest that's come in the studio."}, {"start": "03:45:14", "end": "03:45:21", "text": "You're also going to get behind the scenes content and guest updates. You're going to get first dibs on new merch"}, {"start": "03:45:21", "end": "03:45:26", "text": "drops and limited edition items that will never be sold again. Plus,"}, {"start": "03:45:26", "end": "03:45:31", "text": "exclusive offers from our partners you won't find anywhere else. So, subscribe"}, {"start": "03:45:31", "end": "03:45:37", "text": "to the Vigilance Elite newsletter right now."}, {"start": "03:46:17", "end": "03:46:24", "text": "All right, Matt, we're back from the break. Just got done chatting with Tim. But I got I got to interject here. He he"}, {"start": "03:46:24", "end": "03:46:30", "text": "said, \"You know what the SEAL community does very maliciously is they try and go after your SEAL trident after you've"}, {"start": "03:46:30", "end": "03:46:37", "text": "served and you're now out.\" They they did that to me, too. They did. Of course, I'd been out 5 years and they"}, {"start": "03:46:37", "end": "03:46:42", "text": "came back and were like, \"Hey, as part of this, we we're going to we want to take your trident.\" Like, my lawyer"}, {"start": "03:46:42", "end": "03:46:47", "text": "represented me at the time. He's like, \"I don't even think they can do that. You're you're out of the Navy. How do they retroactively go back and take away"}, {"start": "03:46:47", "end": "03:46:53", "text": "a warfare insignia that you earned and you got out of the Navy with?\" He's like, \"That's not even legal. You still"}, {"start": "03:46:53", "end": "03:47:00", "text": "have it, right? Yeah. Well, you still have it. Yeah. I don't care. But the uh in in the"}, {"start": "03:47:00", "end": "03:47:06", "text": "Navy paperwork, do I have my seal trident? Yes. Did they try and take it away retroactively to be spiteful and"}, {"start": "03:47:06", "end": "03:47:13", "text": "little [ __ ] Absolutely. So, they they just literally just spew out whatever [ __ ] they feel like,"}, {"start": "03:47:13", "end": "03:47:19", "text": "whether they have any legal recourse or not, to try to [ __ ] scare you, piss you off, ruin your day. What I mean,"}, {"start": "03:47:19", "end": "03:47:26", "text": "whatever. They just they'll just spew it all out there. It's the seal mindset. Win win at all costs, right? And if it"}, {"start": "03:47:26", "end": "03:47:31", "text": "doesn't, you know, crush the other guy. [ __ ] hell, man. So, yeah, it was it's"}, {"start": "03:47:31", "end": "03:47:36", "text": "it's been a it's been my life's biggest struggle for sure, right? Getting into buds, making it in the seals is one"}, {"start": "03:47:36", "end": "03:47:42", "text": "thing. I thought that was hard. Getting out kicked my ass. Um, not the getting out part cuz I was I was ready to get"}, {"start": "03:47:42", "end": "03:47:50", "text": "out. I was cooked. I was done. But what what came after getting out was was single-handedly my biggest challenge."}, {"start": "03:47:50", "end": "03:47:56", "text": "And and again, I we talk about faith. Um I was in my lowest when I got out and"}, {"start": "03:47:56", "end": "03:48:04", "text": "didn't have community, didn't understand why I was being put through everything I was being put through. And and that's"}, {"start": "03:48:04", "end": "03:48:09", "text": "where I was furthest from my faith. Um"}, {"start": "03:48:09", "end": "03:48:15", "text": "as I've got through this experience, it's really uh reminded me that hey,"}, {"start": "03:48:15", "end": "03:48:25", "text": "there there is a reason behind this. I may not understand it. I may not know it right now. It may take me years to understand why. And and uh"}, {"start": "03:48:25", "end": "03:48:31", "text": "so it's really been more like, hey, I'm going to trust that this is all part of God's plan, right? I I uh I I dealt with"}, {"start": "03:48:31", "end": "03:48:38", "text": "a decent amount of survivors guilt having done what I did and and getting out. Um and then I dealt with a a ton of"}, {"start": "03:48:38", "end": "03:48:44", "text": "questioning why I went through everything I went through. And again, I the only way I can only way I sit here"}, {"start": "03:48:44", "end": "03:48:51", "text": "and smile and think about it now is thinking that, okay, maybe this was God just challenging me yet again, right?"}, {"start": "03:48:51", "end": "03:48:57", "text": "Maybe he wanted to see if I was going to turn into a little [ __ ] Maybe he was going to see how I acted, how I let my"}, {"start": "03:48:57", "end": "03:49:03", "text": "actions. And so I've I'm I'm big on my actions over my words, right? So, uh,"}, {"start": "03:49:03", "end": "03:49:09", "text": "yeah. Has this entire experime experience changed your opinion of the teams?"}, {"start": "03:49:09", "end": "03:49:16", "text": "Yeah, for sure. How so, man? I would have given anything for that team, for the teams, the community,"}, {"start": "03:49:16", "end": "03:49:21", "text": "right? I was I was that guy that they had hook, line, and sinker. I would have done anything. Died for him. No"}, {"start": "03:49:21", "end": "03:49:28", "text": "questions asked. Easy. Check. Had f done. Then I get out and I'm like, well,"}, {"start": "03:49:28", "end": "03:49:34", "text": "wait a second. This isn't the where's the this brotherhood? Seems more like a a a school of sharks and if there's"}, {"start": "03:49:34", "end": "03:49:44", "text": "blood in the water, they're coming after you. like this isn't the brotherhood I I remember or was sold right now."}, {"start": "03:49:44", "end": "03:49:49", "text": "That communities, the SEAL community, whatever it is, it's it's it's it is whatever it is, I care very little about"}, {"start": "03:49:49", "end": "03:49:56", "text": "it now. Right? My my community that I've gotten reacquainted with are all a lot of my favorite operators that I worked"}, {"start": "03:49:56", "end": "03:50:01", "text": "with, they've now gotten out, right? And and I think we all collectively have a"}, {"start": "03:50:01", "end": "03:50:07", "text": "perspective that that we respect each other for what we did, but but it's not about the the SEAL community or about"}, {"start": "03:50:07", "end": "03:50:12", "text": "this world. I guess the the Delta guys I worked with, they're saying the same thing. They're like, \"Fuck the"}, {"start": "03:50:12", "end": "03:50:19", "text": "leadership. I'm over it. We're over it.\" Right? We were we were sent into harm's way by leadership"}, {"start": "03:50:19", "end": "03:50:25", "text": "for what? Right? We we got sent a lot. Right? Few of us didn't come back. And"}, {"start": "03:50:25", "end": "03:50:31", "text": "that same leadership that that arguably left millions of dollars of military equipment in Afghanistan, they've got"}, {"start": "03:50:31", "end": "03:50:37", "text": "promoted and retirement and everything. And somehow I have a payment plan."}, {"start": "03:50:37", "end": "03:50:44", "text": "It's hard. It's hard to process. It's hard to justify in my mind. The only way is knowing that, hey, there's a plan."}, {"start": "03:50:44", "end": "03:50:49", "text": "He's got a plan. I may not understand it right now. Keep the faith."}, {"start": "03:50:49", "end": "03:50:56", "text": "It's a good way to be, man. It's a good way to be. So, what else is in the new book?"}, {"start": "03:50:56", "end": "03:51:03", "text": "The new book is me telling this story. The new book is me venting about this because I I haven't I've kept my mouth"}, {"start": "03:51:03", "end": "03:51:08", "text": "very shut and quiet. I've been very private about it. I tried to fight this battle as best I could through the legal"}, {"start": "03:51:08", "end": "03:51:15", "text": "system. And when that ran its course, I was like, I I've got to tell this story. But then through the story, I don't want"}, {"start": "03:51:15", "end": "03:51:22", "text": "it to be a Debbie Downer and woe is me and Bis is over there just bitching and moaning. I can't have it. Right. I I uh"}, {"start": "03:51:22", "end": "03:51:28", "text": "I try to be very optimistic in in some shitty situations. And so I I uh we talked about the four"}, {"start": "03:51:28", "end": "03:51:34", "text": "Fs earlier, right? I learned that from my dad. Family, friends, fun, and faith. Um I sprinkle some of that into the book"}, {"start": "03:51:34", "end": "03:51:40", "text": "cuz I don't want it to come across like it's just some former SEAL bitching and moaning, right? It's some former SEAL"}, {"start": "03:51:40", "end": "03:51:47", "text": "who's been through some [ __ ] and is going to share a little bit of of what helped him out when he was in his"}, {"start": "03:51:47", "end": "03:51:54", "text": "nice darkest times. What is in there about the AAR? The AAR of the Bin Laden made"}, {"start": "03:51:54", "end": "03:52:00", "text": "only thing I put in there is is that there's an audio recording of it."}, {"start": "03:52:00", "end": "03:52:05", "text": "That and that's I I mention that because that's that's where my flow of the mission comes from. Gotcha."}, {"start": "03:52:05", "end": "03:52:11", "text": "Right. my what I saw, what I experienced, and then what I sat through in a debrief and and what I remember"}, {"start": "03:52:11", "end": "03:52:16", "text": "hearing on that debrief and what was audio recorded. And I've confirmed with other people what they heard on that"}, {"start": "03:52:16", "end": "03:52:24", "text": "radio or on that um recording. So that's the only thing I get into just that there was existence of it and that that"}, {"start": "03:52:24", "end": "03:52:29", "text": "that's where my version comes from. And the name of the book is No Easy Way. No Easy Way."}, {"start": "03:52:29", "end": "03:52:34", "text": "It's a playoff No Easy Day cuz turns out today is not long enough, right? You're going to get kicked in the nuts. Life's"}, {"start": "03:52:34", "end": "03:52:40", "text": "journey is a little longer than that and takes more than a day. Well, we'll we we will we will help you"}, {"start": "03:52:40", "end": "03:52:46", "text": "promote it. And I'm not I'm not using a publisher on this one, right? I used the publisher on"}, {"start": "03:52:46", "end": "03:52:53", "text": "the last two. Guess who kept all their money in the process. Go figure. Publishers, literary agent. Everybody"}, {"start": "03:52:53", "end": "03:53:00", "text": "kept their profits. Uh except me. So So this book I am I'm not using a publisher. I'm going as most direct that"}, {"start": "03:53:00", "end": "03:53:06", "text": "I can. Um, if if people want to help me, they can go to my website,"}, {"start": "03:53:06", "end": "03:53:12", "text": "mattbeset.com, and order a book. And that cuts out all the middlemen, that cuts out all the fluff, that cuts out"}, {"start": "03:53:12", "end": "03:53:19", "text": "all the nonsense. And then when the book finally gets reviewed, um, go straight"}, {"start": "03:53:19", "end": "03:53:24", "text": "to you. Good for you, man. Good for you. What are you doing with the YouTube channel?"}, {"start": "03:53:24", "end": "03:53:32", "text": "YouTube channel. That's That's an interesting one, right? I I kind of parachuted into Hollywood for this uh the Seal Team show on CBS, right? I I"}, {"start": "03:53:32", "end": "03:53:38", "text": "had an opportunity to sit down with um with the president of CBS."}, {"start": "03:53:38", "end": "03:53:44", "text": "He says, \"Hey, Bis, what does Hollywood do wrong with military content?\""}, {"start": "03:53:44", "end": "03:53:49", "text": "Pretty easy. You don't hire enough veterans to make sure the veteran content actually gets across, right? I"}, {"start": "03:53:49", "end": "03:53:55", "text": "said, \"Look, I did 13 deployments and it's it's not about the Rambo [ __ ] I did plenty of that. I was married. I"}, {"start": "03:53:55", "end": "03:54:01", "text": "tried to have kids. like all of these things and it's a balance. It's not it's not just the shoot them up stuff, right?"}, {"start": "03:54:01", "end": "03:54:07", "text": "There's way more to being a SEAL than than what's in combat. And he's like, \"Okay, would you help me put this"}, {"start": "03:54:07", "end": "03:54:14", "text": "together?\" Sure. So, so started hiring a handful of vets. Um then they then"}, {"start": "03:54:14", "end": "03:54:20", "text": "Hollywood stepped in. They're like, \"No, no, no. You've got you got three involved.\" Like, \"Three? We need like"}, {"start": "03:54:20", "end": "03:54:27", "text": "300.\" So, I went back to the president of CBS. I'm like, \"Sir, this this isn't the deal we got.\" like this, you have to"}, {"start": "03:54:27", "end": "03:54:33", "text": "put a lot of them in here, right? There's only three of us so far. And uh and of course, right, what he wants and"}, {"start": "03:54:33", "end": "03:54:41", "text": "the lieutenants below him, they always change what he wants, like the military. Um so I I I kept butting heads, but"}, {"start": "03:54:41", "end": "03:54:49", "text": "every time I'd go back and talk with the president, he'd say, \"Okay, bis. Okay.\" And he'd I'd win. And by season seven,"}, {"start": "03:54:49", "end": "03:54:54", "text": "right? What? Seven seasons. Seven seasons of this. Seven seasons. 200 vets employed on the"}, {"start": "03:54:54", "end": "03:54:59", "text": "show. Oh, congratulations, man. Directors, editors. We had two former"}, {"start": "03:54:59", "end": "03:55:06", "text": "SEALs and a former Mars guy in the writer room writing the episodes with with the crazy Hollywood types to write"}, {"start": "03:55:06", "end": "03:55:13", "text": "the episodes, right? Otherwise, we'd be throwing nuclear hand grenades. Episode two, right? It doesn't work. Um, they"}, {"start": "03:55:13", "end": "03:55:20", "text": "they they clearly pulled a whole bunch of stuff from my books and put it in the in the show. We we talk a lot about"}, {"start": "03:55:20", "end": "03:55:25", "text": "mental health. We have veteran suicide. We have a we have a an episode where we"}, {"start": "03:55:25", "end": "03:55:30", "text": "had a veteran shoot himself um in the VA parking lot,"}, {"start": "03:55:30", "end": "03:55:36", "text": "right? Um mental health was never brought up at all ever during my time."}, {"start": "03:55:36", "end": "03:55:43", "text": "Ever was dirty word, right? So to have the ability to"}, {"start": "03:55:43", "end": "03:55:49", "text": "uh have an effect on a show that that can tell a real story, that was it. So"}, {"start": "03:55:49", "end": "03:55:54", "text": "Celtium seven seven seasons learned a lot. It's super expensive. if it's slow and"}, {"start": "03:55:54", "end": "03:56:01", "text": "and it's and it's a dying breed, right? Um so, uh I've got a farm in North"}, {"start": "03:56:01", "end": "03:56:08", "text": "Carolina, which is where I am moving to in my next phase of life. Going to be a farmer grow raising some Wagu beef."}, {"start": "03:56:08", "end": "03:56:13", "text": "Nice. And send some of that up here. I'll trade you gummy bears for Wagu beef any [ __ ] day."}, {"start": "03:56:13", "end": "03:56:19", "text": "Deal. Um so, yeah, through through that process, right, it's an old cattle farm"}, {"start": "03:56:19", "end": "03:56:24", "text": "that my wife and I bought 10 years ago. we've been cleaning up and and we're like, you know what? We we should share"}, {"start": "03:56:24", "end": "03:56:30", "text": "a little bit of the story of hey, where our food comes from, right? I'm I'm a little bit of a prepper, so we'll be"}, {"start": "03:56:30", "end": "03:56:35", "text": "getting off the grid with some solar and whatnot. And so, we're like, let's let's put a little show around this. And then"}, {"start": "03:56:35", "end": "03:56:41", "text": "and then, you know, I bring bring buddies out and bring them through the show. No [ __ ]"}, {"start": "03:56:41", "end": "03:56:46", "text": "Yeah, you have to come. Cool, man. We set up a thing called the Farm Olympics with my son. Now it's when you"}, {"start": "03:56:46", "end": "03:56:52", "text": "come we'll have you do it. But it's shooting out of an ice bath, sporting clays, ride, paddle boarding, side by"}, {"start": "03:56:52", "end": "03:56:58", "text": "siding with axe throwing with Winkler. Like we got a whole bunch of stupid fun stuff to do around the farm."}, {"start": "03:56:58", "end": "03:57:05", "text": "Dude, that's awesome. Yeah. Sounds like a total man cap. That's [ __ ] amazing. It is. Well, congratulations, man. I'm I'm uh"}, {"start": "03:57:05", "end": "03:57:12", "text": "really happy for you. And um so couple more questions."}, {"start": "03:57:12", "end": "03:57:18", "text": "Send it. one, what is the what is the"}, {"start": "03:57:18", "end": "03:57:23", "text": "the the the one thing that stuck with you the most"}, {"start": "03:57:23", "end": "03:57:32", "text": "out of your career in the SEAL teams? A positive. One a positive. Okay. A positive from my"}, {"start": "03:57:32", "end": "03:57:38", "text": "time in the SEAL before all the [ __ ] happened, man."}, {"start": "03:57:38", "end": "03:57:43", "text": "And you've lived it. So So I'm speaking to the choir here."}, {"start": "03:57:43", "end": "03:57:48", "text": "There's something about working with a group of people. I'm not talking about the officers and all the people around."}, {"start": "03:57:48", "end": "03:57:56", "text": "I'm talking about the operators that you worked with, right? And the fact that each one of them, right, would would"}, {"start": "03:57:56", "end": "03:58:01", "text": "give of himself for the team, right? And I loved that, right? I loved the fact"}, {"start": "03:58:01", "end": "03:58:07", "text": "that I worked in an environment where the team was all rowing in the same direction and and it was great. I I I"}, {"start": "03:58:07", "end": "03:58:13", "text": "absolutely loved that. Um, I loved the black and white nature of it, right?"}, {"start": "03:58:13", "end": "03:58:18", "text": "There's very little gray area. You're either all in or you're not. And, uh, I"}, {"start": "03:58:18", "end": "03:58:25", "text": "was all in. So, I I loved all of that. Uh, problem is you get out and you miss it. I have a a Delta Force buddy who's"}, {"start": "03:58:25", "end": "03:58:32", "text": "on the on the SEAL team show. Uh, Delta guy playing a seal. That's weird. But, um, Tyler Gray and he's like, \"Look,"}, {"start": "03:58:32", "end": "03:58:39", "text": "bis, we don't have PTSD. We have LTSD.\" Have you heard this one before? No. Cuz I'm like, \"Tyler, what's LTSD?\""}, {"start": "03:58:39", "end": "03:58:45", "text": "He's like, \"We have lack of traumatic stress disorder.\" Go, \"Okay, explain it to me.\" And it's the best way I've ever"}, {"start": "03:58:45", "end": "03:58:50", "text": "heard it explained. Okay, bis. He's like, \"For a decade straight, our day job, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, on"}, {"start": "03:58:50", "end": "03:58:56", "text": "average, was to creep into the house, pick the lock on the door, and come deal with you and 10 of your friends with me"}, {"start": "03:58:56", "end": "03:59:02", "text": "and 10 of my friends, right? We're going to be we're going to be very calm in that chaos because that's what we do"}, {"start": "03:59:02", "end": "03:59:07", "text": "Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and for a decade, right? That's kind of our normal night. Mhm."}, {"start": "03:59:07", "end": "03:59:14", "text": "That's our norm. That's our baseline. I don't get I don't get adrenaline rush in a shootout. I slow down and make smart"}, {"start": "03:59:14", "end": "03:59:19", "text": "decisions. Adrenaline will get you killed. So So if that becomes our norm, I turned"}, {"start": "03:59:19", "end": "03:59:25", "text": "in my ID card. I left the base. I never got shot at again. I haven't been skydiving. I haven't I've had lack of"}, {"start": "03:59:25", "end": "03:59:30", "text": "traumatic stress in my life. And and Tyler's like, he explained that"}, {"start": "03:59:30", "end": "03:59:36", "text": "to me. I'm like, \"Holy [ __ ] it's the best way ever. I I have L I don't have PTSD. I have LTSD, right? I did it long"}, {"start": "03:59:36", "end": "03:59:42", "text": "enough that that was my happy place and my norm. It made it gave me purpose. It gave me all the things I needed in life."}, {"start": "03:59:42", "end": "03:59:49", "text": "And then one day I turned in my ID card. I left. And now I have lack of traumatic stress disorder. Now, why do vets step"}, {"start": "03:59:49", "end": "03:59:54", "text": "into drug and alcohol addition issues? Maybe maybe they're trying to recreate the chaos. Single-handedly the best way"}, {"start": "03:59:54", "end": "04:00:02", "text": "I've ever heard it explained to me. Maybe maybe I don't know."}, {"start": "04:00:02", "end": "04:00:08", "text": "a lot of other symptoms going on while in service. Like you saying, you're not"}, {"start": "04:00:08", "end": "04:00:14", "text": "[ __ ] sleeping while in service. Yeah. I I didn't sleep for more than four or five hours a night for almost a"}, {"start": "04:00:14", "end": "04:00:20", "text": "decade. Mhm. Right. I like there's there's a lot of there's a lot of combined stressors that"}, {"start": "04:00:20", "end": "04:00:27", "text": "add up and add up. And you think about it again, I was at the command for eight straight years and and that pressure"}, {"start": "04:00:27", "end": "04:00:34", "text": "never got relieved for anybody. I'm not talking about me. I'm talking about the command in general. That pressure just got more and more pressurized. More and"}, {"start": "04:00:34", "end": "04:00:39", "text": "more pressurized. More and more pressurized. Oh, big success of Bin Laden rush and Okay. Boom. We got gut"}, {"start": "04:00:39", "end": "04:00:45", "text": "punched with all of our friends died. Yeah. Right. Like"}, {"start": "04:00:45", "end": "04:00:50", "text": "Yeah, man. I got one other crazy story for you."}, {"start": "04:00:50", "end": "04:00:57", "text": "What do you got? So, when my kids were little, I would go volunteer at their school, right? I They"}, {"start": "04:00:57", "end": "04:01:03", "text": "use their mom's maiden name. So there's nobody know. They're just trying to stay under the radar. Certainly nobody at the"}, {"start": "04:01:03", "end": "04:01:10", "text": "kids school knows my background. But there's a program called Watchd Dogs. Dads of good students. Dads can go to"}, {"start": "04:01:10", "end": "04:01:16", "text": "the school volunteer for the day and whatever. So I'm going to be a watchdog. I show up at the school like, \"Yeah, you"}, {"start": "04:01:16", "end": "04:01:23", "text": "know, I'm I'm Ava dad. You know, I'm here for my volunteer.\" Like, \"Okay, well, you know, here's your t-shirt. Um"}, {"start": "04:01:23", "end": "04:01:29", "text": "would you go work the crossing guard uh as the buses show up? Here's a reflective vest and a stop sign. Like"}, {"start": "04:01:29", "end": "04:01:36", "text": "I'm probably overqualified for this, but it's going to be a really safe intersection. I got my my Navy Seal hand in arm signals, right? I'm working the"}, {"start": "04:01:36", "end": "04:01:42", "text": "intersection. Reflective vest, stop sign. In the middle of this, I see this guy"}, {"start": "04:01:42", "end": "04:01:49", "text": "walking up with a couple kids and he's got a Seal Team Six hat on. The type we don't sell. Oh [ __ ] Right. We have"}, {"start": "04:01:49", "end": "04:01:54", "text": "Squadron hats. We don't have Team Six hats. So he walks across the intersection. I give him a look, you"}, {"start": "04:01:54", "end": "04:01:59", "text": "know, he gives me the tough guy nod and walks into school. Holy [ __ ] I got to talk to this guy. Maybe he was in the"}, {"start": "04:01:59", "end": "04:02:07", "text": "command. So I uh I let him come out. I get out of the street. I let the traffic go and I'm looking. I'm like, \"Hey man,"}, {"start": "04:02:07", "end": "04:02:14", "text": "it's you. The hats. Were you in the teams?\" I was. I'm like, \"Oh, no [ __ ] I'm team six. Those are the guys that"}, {"start": "04:02:14", "end": "04:02:20", "text": "got Bin Laden. You know, you weren't a part of that, were you?\" This guy looks around."}, {"start": "04:02:20", "end": "04:02:26", "text": "I don't like to talk about it, but I was. Oh [ __ ]"}, {"start": "04:02:26", "end": "04:02:33", "text": "Oh my god. I can't believe what he just said. I just keep staring at him. I'm in my reflective vest. I got my stops on."}, {"start": "04:02:33", "end": "04:02:38", "text": "I'm like, \"No shit.\" So was I. And that's all I said. I just keep"}, {"start": "04:02:38", "end": "04:02:44", "text": "staring at him. Oh my gosh. And he's looking at me. I'm looking at him. The two crossing guards are out there beating the [ __ ] out of each other."}, {"start": "04:02:44", "end": "04:02:51", "text": "I'm like, \"I'm going to kill him with my son.\" My wife's texting me. She's like, \"You know, the kids are at school. Don't kill them with the stop sign.\""}, {"start": "04:02:51", "end": "04:02:56", "text": "Yeah. few choice words. I'm like, \"Who is who who's the master chief on chalk one? What buds class are you in?\" All"}, {"start": "04:02:56", "end": "04:03:01", "text": "right, this guy had nothing. Like, listen, I got I got a lot of dead friends who'd be really upset that"}, {"start": "04:03:01", "end": "04:03:07", "text": "you're coming in here acting like you are once you beat it. How about that? What are the odds of that,"}, {"start": "04:03:07", "end": "04:03:15", "text": "man? 24 dudes in the world and he's lying to the wrong crossing guard at the wrong time. Wow. Wow. Wow."}, {"start": "04:03:15", "end": "04:03:21", "text": "People never cease to amaze me. Well, Matt, we're wrapping up the interview. Last question."}, {"start": "04:03:21", "end": "04:03:26", "text": "Send it. If you had three people to recommend for the show, who would they be?"}, {"start": "04:03:26", "end": "04:03:32", "text": "Three guys to come on this show. Great question. They probably wouldn't want me"}, {"start": "04:03:32", "end": "04:03:38", "text": "dropping their names on this right now. Um, I could think of a couple operators"}, {"start": "04:03:38", "end": "04:03:45", "text": "that I worked with who would be phenomenal to help round out a whole bunch of stuff for you. Um, whether they"}, {"start": "04:03:45", "end": "04:03:50", "text": "will will come here and and be on the show, I don't know. Like I said, I"}, {"start": "04:03:50", "end": "04:03:57", "text": "wasn't going to do any of this until I talked to you. Um, know knowing you, knowing what you've built and uh the"}, {"start": "04:03:57", "end": "04:04:04", "text": "type of person you are, that's why I was willing to come sit here. Um, so I I appreciate that and I think uh I think"}, {"start": "04:04:04", "end": "04:04:12", "text": "there will be some others that will follow suit. Well, and so I won't drop names, but uh"}, {"start": "04:04:12", "end": "04:04:18", "text": "they they will be phenomenal interviews if I can encourage them to come out. Thank you. Thank you. Well, Matt, it was"}, {"start": "04:04:18", "end": "04:04:24", "text": "an honor and uh I wish the best for doing that. Hope that book gets gets the"}, {"start": "04:04:24", "end": "04:04:31", "text": "blessing soon. So, appreciate it. God bless, brother. Thanks, man. Cheers."}, {"start": "04:04:40", "end": "04:04:47", "text": "No matter where you're watching Shawn Ryan Show from, if you get anything out of this, please like, comment,"}, {"start": "04:04:47", "end": "04:04:53", "text": "subscribe, and most importantly, share this everywhere you possibly can. And if"}, {"start": "04:04:53", "end": "04:04:58", "text": "you're feeling extra generous, please leave us a review on Apple and Spotify"}, {"start": "04:04:58", "end": "04:05:00", "text": "podcasts."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:01", "text": "He's like the RPG hits and all of a"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "sudden they're sitting on the other"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "side. Pete Van Hooser at the memorial"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "said it best. He was the CEO of Group"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "Two when Red Wings went down. They"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "brought him out of retirement to be the"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "CEO of the command and then extortion"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "happens. Yeah. You tell me that's not a"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "calling. He knew what to say to the"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "families and how to handle it with the"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "end of speech. He starts laughing. You"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "know, they were all jocked up. Call for"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "the QRF getting ready to get after it."}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "He's like the RPG hits and all of a"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "sudden they're sitting on the other"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "side. They all look at each other and"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "they go, \"Motherfucker, he's sitting"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "this way.\" And then they all walked into"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "heaven. How many times you replayed like"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "what was the last second like? And they"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "wheeled JT in. JT's dog, Hawkeye, his"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "chocolate lab, walks up to the casket,"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "lays down in front of the casket. All"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "three of JT's girlfriends were there."}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "They all met at the same time."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "We're all like, \"That's kind of funny.\""}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "And Bo gives this absolutely amazing"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "speech."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Nick left a list of people to thank and"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "you were on it. We all decided to float"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "the Salt River on a weekend during green"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "team. Jonas and I were the two officers."}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "All right, how are we going to get home?"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "There's no Uber. This is like 2008. And"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "Nick's like, \"Dude, I didn't drink. I'm"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "fine.\" I'm like, \"No, we're not doing"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "that.\" He's like, \"We got a pickup"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "truck. We can pile everybody in. It'll"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "be fine.\" Like, we literally pull out of"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "the parking lot. They pull us over. Of"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "course, they scream. They smell alcohol"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "in the car because there was plenty of"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "alcohol in the car. They give Nick a"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "test, passes the field sobriety test,"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "and then he blows the legal limit at 08"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "and they arrest him. I went in to see"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "the head of green team. He starts"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "tearing into me and I was like, hey, I"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "take full responsibility. He's a good"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "kid. He was trying to do the right thing"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "and we put him in a bad position. Last"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "day at the command, I was leaving and I"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "see Nick on the quarter deck. Hey man,"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "where you going? He's like, dude, gives"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "me a hug. Goes, I never have to thank"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "you. What you did, like, I love my job."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "I love coming to work every day. Like, I"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "really thank you. And that was the last"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "thing he said to me. Got shot coming"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "through the door. Was awarded the Medal"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "of Honor. I'm glad he stopped me on the"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "quarter deck. That was a gift."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "We just saw that poor Ukrainian girl get"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "in the neck several times. Nobody helped"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "her. She out"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "or the Daniel Penny. What these cities"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "have done is they've allowed the"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "criminal element to converge down into"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "the subways and on public"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "transportation. You get repeat"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "offenders. You get violent mentally ill"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "riding with the very good people who"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "paid for it. And again, the subway"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "system is not meant for the mentally"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "ill. That's not their home. That's not"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "their shelter. The cities have to figure"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "out something else to do with the"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "mentally ill. How do I treat them? How"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "do I house them? The subway system is"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "not a place for the homeless or for the"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "mentally ill. And liberals have a hard"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "time wrapping their head around that."}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "We've seen with President Trump in DC by"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "bringing in the National Guard, there's"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "just a small cohort of people that"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "create all the problems. You take them"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "off the street, you take their guns off"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "the street, and lo and behold, the city"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "becomes a much safer place. So law"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "enforcement actually works. But it's"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "been this liberal idea of no cash bail,"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "soft on crime prosecutors that have"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "driven more of the problems in the"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "subway"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "We legitimately almost lost what it"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "means to be a man."}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "And it came back in full force cuz of"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "guys like you that go, \"I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "talk about what does it mean to be a"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "man.\""}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "I just lead by example. I'm not telling"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "people how to be a man. I'm not telling"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "people what it means to be a man. I'm"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "not doing any of that,"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "which is more effective than preaching."}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "This revolution of what's happened with"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "young men and that these young men are"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "going back to church."}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "It is wild, isn't it?"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "Really cool. The chivalry, it's"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "respecting women. It's protecting your"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "family, protecting your kids, and faith"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "is such a big part of it. By the way,"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "these are very Catholic ideas. We"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "started these ideas in Western"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "civilization."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "Where do you think the resurgence came"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "from?"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "I think it was the attack on"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "masculinity, calling us toxic."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "Yeah. But how long did that go on for?"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "Too long. It was a slow burn that came"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "to a crescendo of these attacks on these"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "boys. And when they had an outlet that"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "would actually celebrate them, would"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "talk about how great they are and how"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "great masculinity actually is, they"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "gravitated towards"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "We lose about 40 42,000 lives a year on"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "the road. Way too many. I'm grabbing my"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "phone and I'm driving. A text comes in."}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "This is the that kills people or people"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "drink and drive. So I do think the"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "autonomous technology is going to"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "radically improve safety on the roadway."}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "Drones are going to radically change the"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "way your products move. And right now"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "they're about 3 lb deliveries to 5 lb"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "deliveries. Whether you want to get a"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "hot cup of coffee in the morning,"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "whether you need medicine from the"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "drugstore, drone delivery is going to"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "radically change the way products move."}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "Then you've seen these evatls, these"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "Ubers in the air."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "I think I've seen these."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "We're testing them around the country."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "There's different ranges on these. They"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "can go 30 miles, some 100 miles. You'll"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "be able to go from Reagan airport out to"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "Dallas. It's the cost of a Uber black."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "You can put five people on them."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "I think green team was harder than buds"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "really."}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "It was like our final jump, like our"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "final test jump, and I came down with"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "strep. I mean, I was hallucinating. He's"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "like, \"You have to do it now.\" The final"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "exercise is they drop you off and you"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "have no money, you have no IDs, and you"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "have to figure it out. What we did was"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "cutting the soles of our shoes and"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "wrapped some hundreds around it, stuffed"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "it in there, found a cab, went to a bar,"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "got ripped."}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "What was green team like showing up"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "there?"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "Uh, it was good. I mean, you're you're"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "around all the guys that are, you know,"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "are putting out to get to that that, you"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "know, the uh next rung on the ladder."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "And uh it was I think green team was"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "harder than buds"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "really."}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "It seemed like there was more stress."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "You had more to prove. Your your ego was"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "kind of more on the line. Okay."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "Like, you know, you you could go back to"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "the the to the teams back to team two as"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "a um I mean, you would call yourself a"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "failure like failed or whatever it is."}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "Not to say that like and the guys that"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "didn't make it through, they're they're"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "they're great individuals, great"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "operators, but just it wasn't I guess"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "what they're looking for. And um it was"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "tough, man. It was extremely tough, but"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "you know, the main thing they"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "concentrated on was CQB and that"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "happened to be my strong suit. It just"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "like it was like I can just walk in a"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "room and I can process really fast. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "I can't process in the relationship"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "world, but they're with my children. But"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "for some reason, you know, don't CQB"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "that just I just got it. Like I just"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "understood threat bad guy done. Not, you"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "know, hostage. Don't do anything wrong."}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "Like I just I just I just got it. Like I"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "comprehended the angles and doorways and"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "windows. I just got it. And uh and and I"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "say that humbly. I just And there's so"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "many other things that I really took me"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "a long time to get. Like I just didn't I"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "wasn't that great at it. Uh, I guess"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "probably more of the passion piece. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "but there's nothing cooler than going"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "through a hallway, running and gunning"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "and like peeling off, coming back out of"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "the hallway, going to the next room."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "Like, what do we got? It's like a"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "surprise behind every door. You just"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "don't know what you get."}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "Uh, but it was I strived in that. I did"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "really good. Um, and I'd say probably,"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "you know, the two things that I found in"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "in Green Team that they they get rid of"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "you for was uh well, minus your if you"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "have an attitude or you just like don't"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "fit the mold was CQB in the beginning of"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "it all. if you do a crazy safety"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "violation throughout and then jumping if"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "you know you're not landed on the X,"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "you're not deploying correctly because I"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "mean when you're asked to be at altitude"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "at nighttime stacking to fly into"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "wherever you got to you got to be I mean"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "dudes die and uh I remember"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "one I talk about that talk about this in"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "the book is like it was like our final"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "jump like our final test jump and I came"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "down a strep and I had like a 102 103 I"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "mean I was hallucinating I was I was out"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "and they came in like one of the"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "instructors, like hey, you got to jump."}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "And I was like, hey, can I just do it"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "tomorrow? Like, just let me pump in some"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "meds. And he's like, no. He's like, you"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "have to do it now. And I was like, all"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "right. So, I went to got the medic and I"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "was like, \"Hey, dude. I don't know what"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "you have to do. Pump me up with do"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "something and get me on that freaking"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "bird.\" And I dude, I I thought I was"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "like I would I mean, if you have a strep"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "for Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "and you have a tit sucks and you want me"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "to jump out of a plane, which I didn't"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "like to begin with. Uh, and I was like,"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "\"Screw it, dude. I I really didn't care"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "if I burned in.\" And I got up there and"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "I even think that there was only a"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "couple guys that needed to pass. Like,"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "they let me alone cuz they knew I was"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "sick. And, \"Okay, just you go. This is"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "your shot.\" And uh, I just kind of like"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "fell out of the plane, you know,"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "stabilized myself, pulled, and then I I"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "landed where I was supposed to. I was"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "good to go. Took off my chute, dropped"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "it right there in the DZ, and went right"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "up to my rack and went back to bed. I I"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "was done, man. But uh that was probably"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "the hardest piece. Uh minus the runs."}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "It's always the runs, dude. That is like"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "like take the knife out of my freaking"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "back, dude. This sucks. I hate the runs."}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "But those are probably the two hardest"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "things that I thought. But it was again"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "the camaraderie. It was all It was kind"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "of like buds on steroids. Like, hey,"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "everything's operational. Like we're"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "doing, you know, an FMP, a full mission"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "profile. Uh it was it was cool. like it"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "was it was exactly where I wanted to be."}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "It was exactly what I wanted. It was"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "awesome. And then the final"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "stage of that and I actually heard this"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "on uh Shipley's was uh with Seer School."}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "The final thing"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "Yeah. And the final thing or the"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "exercise is they drop you off wherever"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "and you have to make your way back to"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "the command uh out there where to the"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "schoolhouse and you have no money, you"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "have no IDs and you have to figure it"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "out."}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "How far are you?"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "They I think they said like 20 miles or"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "something."}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "20 miles."}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "You kind of like got to smoosh yourself"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "and all that stuff. But what we did was"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "took a razor blade and we cut in the"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "soles of our shoes and we put like our"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "ID and wrapped some hundreds around it."}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "Stuffed it in there cuz they check you."}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "And uh soon as they dropped us off,"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "found a cab, went to a bar,"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "got ripped."}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "And uh I was with Marcus Capone."}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "We get back, we get to the schoolhouse."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "Like one guy is coming in with a case of"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "beer. This is like an Air Force freaking"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "school. the final stage of green team"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "not pay we're just so excited like we"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "just did it like it's over you know it's"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "it's all good and uh we come in hammered"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "I mean I was hammered and we almost got"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "kicked out had to go see the master"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "chief when we got back uh to to our"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "command back in uh back in Virginia"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "and I was like are you kidding me the"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "last day I'm about to get kicked out"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "like I am a [ __ ] like I am an idiot and"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "uh they kept us"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "And I was I was I was scared. I was"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "like, man, like what I what what I do?"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "I was like that this is stupid. What?"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "Like come on, man. Grow up."}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "What did they say to you?"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "Just kind of like again don't remember"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "exactly the words, but like hey, we"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "can't do that. We represent this"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "command. Uh just can't be doing that"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "stuff. You got to do the course to get"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "the experience, all that stuff. And I"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "was like I understood and I I mean I was"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "humbled and I was like I'm sorry. Uh"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "whatever. I I can't remember what I had"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "to do. I'm sure I had to do something."}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "Uh, but there was a punishment and I I I"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "can't recall what it is, but it didn't"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "matter. They didn't kick me out and I"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "got to graduate and go uh with my, you"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "know, with my squadron."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "So, that was literally the last"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "last day, last event. All we had to do"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "was fly home."}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "Holy [ __ ] Damn, dude."}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "Dumb."}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "That would have changed a lot of things."}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "A lot of things. But for some reason,"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "man, for some reason."}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "Yeah. You know,"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "you had mentioned that a lot of solid"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "seasoned operators didn't make it"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "through for whatever reason. That's not"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "what they were looking for. Do you can"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "you describe maybe what"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "the Seal Team Six Command is looking for"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "in an operator?"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "I I think um"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "out of the box thinkers, I think that's"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "a big thing. A team player."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "Mhm."}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "Um I wouldn't say someone that goes with"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "the flow. They just went out of the box"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "thinkers and some of the guys that were"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "awesome, they would just get flustered"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "and do the same safety violation like"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "three three or four times in a row like"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "just because it's it's a lot of stress,"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "man. It's a lot of stress. Uh and then"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "you just got this cadre, these"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "instructors just like watching you and"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "they don't miss a thing."}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "I mean, you you know from Buds, right?"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "Like they they say it all. It's like,"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "dude, how'd you how'd you see that? Mhm."}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "But um yeah, I I I really just think"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "like you like kind of put it like you"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "didn't fit the mold or I heard and this"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "I believe this probably true is and I"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "know from being up there you get a list"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "of green team guys and"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "you right there like this guy's not a"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "this guy's a turd. This guy's a turd."}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "This guy's good to go. And you write it"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "down like this guy's a turd. And you got"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "to obviously give a reason. And I'm sure"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "some of those guys still some of those"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "guys aren't invited."}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "And some of those guys are invited, but"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "watch that guy because I'm sure if you"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "got one guy saying this and another guy"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "saying the opposite, you know, they got"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "to, you know, do the right thing. But"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "there's some of that."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "How much of that is legitimate turds"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "versus personality conflicts?"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "Hey folks, our friends at Tractor Supply"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "have always stood for community, for"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "neighbors helping neighbors, and for the"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "people who keep life out here moving"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "forward. And at the heart of every"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "community are the heroes who serve, the"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "veterans, active duty military, first"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "responders, and the families who stand"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "beside them. These are the folks who"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "answer the call, who protect, who"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "sacrifice. And Tractor Supply believes"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "that that deserves more than just a"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "thank you. That's why they created the"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "Hometown Heroes program. It's their way"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "of giving back in meaningful everyday"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "ways. As a Hometown Hero, you'll enjoy"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "special perks through Neighbors Club,"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "like earning rewards on every purchase,"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "free trailer rentals and delivery, and"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "exclusive savings on holidays that honor"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "your service. And the best part, once"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "you sign up and verify through ID.m me,"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "it's automatic. No hoops, no hassles."}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "So, if you or someone you love is a"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "hometown hero, visit"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "tractorupply.com/hometown"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "heroes to learn more. It's Tractor"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "Supply way of standing behind those who"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "always stand for us."}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "I can't really speak on that piece. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "but there's there has to be some"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "personalities. I mean, some people take"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "things very personal, like they had a"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "run in"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "mouthing off, whatever it is. I really"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "didn't like what you did. You were an"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "idiot when you were drunk. You did this"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "when you were drunk. It usually comes"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "down when you're drunk."}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "Uh, so yeah, I mean, it comes down to a"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "lot of things and it's it's"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "nerve-wracking. You're like, you're"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "going to tell me I can't go before I"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "even get there to prove myself."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "Uh, but, you know, there is a little bit"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "of politics, I would think, into it, but"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "I don't know the grand scheme of it all."}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "Okay. So, I would I would"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "You saw that list come around a lot when"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "you were"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "I saw, you know, when new green teams"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "would come in if you were if you're in"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "town. Um, and I even think you'd get it"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "overseas and you would just kind of"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "eyeball know anybody. All right, cool."}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "Like, whatever it is,"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "like, hey, we need to get this guy. This"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "guy's awesome. Like, freaking Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "It just depends. I mean, at the same"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "time, you're like, dude, this guy's"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "awesome. Like, he's got to get in. like"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "and they they I think they they have to"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "take that in to make decisions because"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "you know there's always more than you"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "know they only have c so many slots"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "versus the guys that are applying."}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "Or that you know requested to be there."}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "So they got to do their due diligence."}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "So you graduate what how do they"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "determine where you're going?"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "Uh they have a draft"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "kind of thing. Um,"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "and I think a lot of it is like having"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "good buddies at certain squadrons kind"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "of pulls you that way. I mean, I had the"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "guys that I was at team two with. I"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "mean, I ended up at, you know, with my"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "at my squadron because of those guys."}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "They're already over there."}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "Yeah. They were there. They came back"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "and um, and so I'm sure they, you know,"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "rallied for me to go there, but then"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "it's like you meet a good buddy, a good"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "instructor that's in a different a"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "different color and you're like, uh,"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "what do I do cuz this guy's telling me"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "this. I'm like, I don't know. I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "I don't know anything. just get me up"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "But uh I went where I was supposed to"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "go."}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "So you went over to Gold Squadron."}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "Yep."}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "There are few people in the military"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "that have experienced more loss than"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "Gold Squadron in your time frame."}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "Which we'll get into."}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "Chills. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "But I want to say that because it is I I"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "can't think of any unit that experienced"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "more loss than you guys."}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "We went through the ringer"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "and it was a weird time. Yeah, it"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "was very weird."}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "How was it showing up to Gold?"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "Phenomenal."}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "Phenomenal. Just walking in, seeing the"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "pictures,"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "seeing the stuff on the wall. You got,"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "you know, Hudday and Kus's freaking"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "goldplated guns hanging up. You're like,"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "there's like AK-47 chandeliers. It's"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "just It's awesome. It's just like big"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "old table in the middle. It's like"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "Knights of the Round Table. It was It"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "was awesome. It was the coolest thing in"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "the world. And the people that were in"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "that room made it the coolest place in"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "the world. I mean, they were"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "professionals. Like, the number one"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "thing that was always talked about is"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "doing your job better and better and"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "better and better and pushing you and"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "pushing you. And it wasn't like you're a"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "turd, like figure it out. It was like,"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "\"Hey, let me show you how to do it.\" And"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "it was awesome. Like, it it was it was a"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "great show of leadership and camaraderie"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "and teamwork. It was it was the coolest"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "thing that I've ever experienced, which"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "is great being out and you see other"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "organizations, other businesses, and"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "they're not doing a quarter of it. It's"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "like, man, you can really fix yourself"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "if you do certain things."}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "So, it it was I have nothing but respect"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "for the men over there that I served"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "with. I mean, they were they were true"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "heroes."}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "Was it a welcoming environment or was it"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "a"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "what are you doing here? Who do you"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "think you are? There's always a little"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "bit of heckling, but it's in good fun."}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "It wasn't stupid. It was It was fun, but"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "it's more like, \"Hey, you're part of the"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "team, man."}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "Here's your gear. We all love gear.\""}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "Yeah. How many guys went over there with"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "you?"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "Uh,"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "from your green team?"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "I'd say probably five or six, I think."}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "Five or six,"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "I think. So, um,"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "Adam Brown was one of them."}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "Oh, Adam was one of them."}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "We were in the same green. He was uh I"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "was this team leader at green team. He"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "was in my uh team. Dom"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "went over with me."}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "We all we all went over together."}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "Oh."}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "And a couple other guys."}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "So what happens when you get in there?"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "Uh you know, you get all checked in. You"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "get your cages, your your your beautiful"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "cage. I heard Shipley talk about that,"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "too. It's it's so like you know, we got"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "the cages, right? But just like seems"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "like every time you come back to your"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "cage, there's like a little package like"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "Santa just came and dropped it off. More"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "gear. It's like dude, like where do I"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "put this stuff? Like I need another"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "cage. Like there's just so much gear"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "like for different regions, different uh"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "climates, all that stuff, different"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "missions."}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "And I'm like, I don't even know what"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "this is, but like, okay, I'll put on my"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "shelf over here. Things I don't know"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "what what it is. I need to learn. Uh but"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "it but it was cool, dude. And then you,"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "you know, you do the uh again, which I"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "talk about in here, you do the yard,"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "yarding in, you know, you got the big"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "yard of beer and they drop in a couple"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "shots down it, start to say a little"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "speech, I tell you to shut up. You get"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "your patches and those patches, man."}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "Holding those patches,"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "it was like better than my trident"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "getting my seal trident, which was a"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "great time. I don't want to take away"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "from that, but I was just like, dude,"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "this this since I was a kid is what I"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "wanted to do is be here and finally go"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "get to to fight, like really fight. And"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "I say that not knowing what really fight"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "meant."}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "You know, you don't realize it until"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "you're till you're doing it. Uh, but it"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "was, dude, it was"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "it was the it would be like if"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "Christmas, Fourth of July, and"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "Thanksgiving, and every other cool"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "holiday, plus your birthday, were"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "wrapped into one day."}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "That would be it."}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "Nice."}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "It was awesome"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "for me. No matter where you're watching"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "Shawn Ryan Show from, if you get"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "anything out of this, please like,"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "comment, subscribe, and most"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "importantly, share this everywhere you"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "possibly can. And if you're feeling"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "extra generous, please leave us a review"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "on Apple and Spotify podcasts."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:01", "text": "We didn't want to shoot him in the face."}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "Nobody wanted to. We wanted the photo."}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "Did you shoot Bin Laden"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "on the ground? Yes."}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "How did that feel? Don't tell me like"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "I'm just doing the job. Bull. You just"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "killed You shot Bin Laden. I've never"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "said I killed Bin Laden."}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "I'm I'm correcting myself. You shot him."}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "Drug him down the stairs by his feet."}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "Nice."}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "Right. I can remember the sound of his"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "hollow skull bouncing down the stairs as"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "we drug him down. We'd given ourselves"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "30 minutes on target with 10 minutes to"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "spare. When I lifted off, we're at 38"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "minutes. Like, we're literally watching"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "Obama. The bodies laying right there."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "Cleared to the door of the room. Looked"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "in and he's basically twitching at the"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "foot of his bed."}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "There's two women in the room."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "Bin Laden's just twitching."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "Head shot from the guy coming up the"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "stairs."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "There's two women standing there in the"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "room, right? Um,"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "so is he still alive or is this just"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "nerves?"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "It's pretty pretty pretty twitchy. I'd"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "say he's done. Head shot. Um,"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "cover the head shot, right? We didn't"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "want to shoot him in the face. Nobody"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "wanted to. We wanted the photo, right?"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "Um, the rules of engagement were capture"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "or kill, right? None of this was go in"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "and kill everybody. I've I've never been"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "on a mission in the SEAL teams where"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "they said go in and kill everybody."}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "Never. It's always capture or kill. And"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "we had 30 different lawyers show up and"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "brief us on this. Um, why was he engaged"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "while we were coming up the stairs? Cuz"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "the only thing he exposed was a head."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "Stuck his head out the door to look at"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "the guy coming up the stairs and was"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "engaged. Um, within the rules of"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "engagement for that point man. Why?"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "Because he could have produced a gun"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "around the corner. Right. Khaled down"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "the stairs had had a gun in hand. Guy in"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "the first room I cleared had a gun in"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "hand. So third floor had more time to"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "set up a defense than anybody on the"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "second and the first. and everybody else"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "had got a gun on the first and second."}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "So for the point man to think, okay, Bin"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "Laden's armed well within the rules of"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "engagement. We'd been briefed. Part of"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "the, you know, the intel packages was,"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "hey, they have the house rigged to blow"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "or they're all wearing S vests and when"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "you get in there, they'll martyr"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "themselves and kill you guys, too. So"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "again, rules of engagement. Point man"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "coming up the stairs only sees the head"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "well within the rules of engagement to"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "take that shot."}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "Now he's laying the foot of his bed. Two"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "women in the room, right? Same point man"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "grabs the two chicks and pushes them"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "back against the far wall. Um,"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "right. Had they had a vest on or"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "something, he would have taken the the"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "brunt. Uh, turns out they didn't push"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "him back against the far wall and and"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "that's basically target secure, right?"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "We finished clearing the third floor"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "and it's okay. Um, question the women"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "and kids, right? Trying to get a name"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "for the for the guy. Uh, the women gave"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "us an alias."}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "Did you shoot Bin Laden"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "on the ground? Yes,"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "you did."}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "Yep."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "How many times?"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "Couple."}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "Where at?"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "The body."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "And the body."}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "How did that feel?"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "Don't [ __ ] tell me like, \"Ah, just"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "doing the job. [ __ ] You just"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "[ __ ] killed You shot Ben. I've never"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "said I killed Ben. I'm I'm correcting"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "myself. You shot him as he was twitching"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "at the [ __ ] edge of his bed. And you"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "didn't feel what that counts for. But"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "come on."}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "You didn't feel anything. No sense of"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "accomplishment, retribution. This guy"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "[ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "a long way to get home still, right? We"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "I think everybody was still very focused"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "on Okay. Right. We're we're we we've got"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "one hilo down, right? Let's think big"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "picture here where we are in this"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "situation. Yeah, we got knucklehead"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "down. But did you know it was him,"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "man? Looking at him, it looked like him,"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "right? The women gave us an alias. The"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "kids confirmed it. We went back to the"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "women. The women then confirmed it. We"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "all carried photos of him, right? And"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "all the photos we carried, his beard was"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "gray and his had gray hair. I searched"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "his bathroom on the shelf just above his"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "sink just for men hair dye."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "Get the [ __ ] out of here."}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "Are you serious?"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "Been dying his beard. That's why his"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "beard's pitch black in all the photos."}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "Oh [ __ ] So, uh, yeah. Right. We got a"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "Hilo down. We got a lot of stuff going"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "on. We're very far from home, right? You"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "got an hour and a half hilo ride into a"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "country that's that's got surfaceto-air"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "missiles and they're way different than"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "what's going on in Afghanistan. And so,"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "okay, we got to clock's ticking. 30"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "minutes on target. So, uh"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "um I started taking the photos. Uh a"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "buddy of mine was there. We we literally"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "he had a camel back. He took the hose of"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "his camel back, dripped water on his"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "face. We took the sheets off his bed,"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "washed all the blood off his face. Um, I"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "had bought I was the supply guy, so I"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "bought everybody in the squadron digital"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "cameras, right? Because we knew, right,"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "if I if we had the body going out in our"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "helicopter and then we got shot down on"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "the way out, how do you have proof on"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "your helicopter? Right? So, did multiple"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "digital cameras taking photos, uh, DNA"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "samples, different Hilos, and then, uh,"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "and then they're like, \"All right, you"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "guys bag him up.\" So, we we had the"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "body. Um,"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "drug him down the stairs by his feet."}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "Nice."}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "Right. I I can shut my eyes and I can"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "remember the sound of his hollow skull"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "bouncing down the stairs as we drug him"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "down. Drug him over his son's dead body"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "down to the first floor and shoved him"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "in a body bag. Nice. Um,"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "at that point, right, uh, officers"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "getting on the horn saying, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "confirmed. We've got them.\" They're, uh,"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "our EOD guys. We had one EOD guy on the"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "mission. He starts running around. He"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "gets on, somebody gets on the radio,"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "says, \"Hey, prep it to blow.\" So, our"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "EOD guy starts running around the house"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "setting thermal barrack charges in all"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "these rooms. What are you doing? He's"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "like, \"Well, they said, \"Prep it to"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "blow.\" Like, the house? I'm pretty sure"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "they're talking about the helicopter."}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "He's like, \"What helicopter?\" Like,"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "\"Dude, you need to go look in the cart"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "courtyard.\" We had crashed so quickly."}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "There was no radio call between chalk"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "one and chalk 2 that we'd gone in."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "The whole target gets complete. And then"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "some of the people in chalk 2 found out"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "that we had crashed in the assault. They"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "did not know. We were everything was"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "happening so quickly"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "that that that hadn't been communicated."}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "Um, so our EOD guy grabs his thermobaric"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "charges ride, runs out to the Hilo,"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "starts rigging that to blow. Uh, we're"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "moving all the women and kids around the"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "compound to safety. We're doing the 30"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "minute or 30 second shopping spree at"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "Walmart, whatever, you know, running"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "around grabbing anything we could. Um,"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "thumb drives, computers, anything you"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "can find. Um, I remember our master"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "chief getting on the horn be like,"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "\"Exfill the building now.\" like no more."}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "Hey, two minutes like everybody out now."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "Wrapped everything up. I remember"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "running out of the building. I'm"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "carrying a whole bunch of stuff and I"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "look over and it's the most"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "uncomfortable weird thing you've ever"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "seen. These helicopter pilots that are"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "never on the ground and they've got"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "these big like aviator helmets, these"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "big black dark helmets and there's like"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "two pilots and two crew chief and"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "somebody had handed them suitcases of"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "like intel. So they're their big helmet."}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "They're looking around, no guns, they've"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "got suitcases. I'm like, \"Come on, guys."}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "Let's go.\" Um,"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "pulled them out. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "we were down a helicopter, right? So,"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "leadership called one remaining. We had"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "two backup CH47s with backup SEALs and"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "backup fuel. One of the CH47s flew into"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "the compound, right? Um, landed, picked"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "up the other guys since since we had the"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "body, they sent my team out on the one"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "remaining Blackhawk."}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "So, we uh Hilo lands. We go booking out"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "through this field carrying the body"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "bag, get to the Hilo, throw the body in."}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "We jump in and I may be a little"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "sensitive cuz I've already been in one"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "helicopter crash that night and the"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "whole cockpit is flashing red."}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "Oh [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "Whole thing's flashing red. I'm like, I"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "I don't know what that means, but I"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "don't think that's healthy. Right. Um"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "it's our gas gauges. So, we've given"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "ourselves 30 minutes on target with 10"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "minutes to spare. When I lifted off,"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "we're at 38 minutes."}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "So, we were running on fumes. Our"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "helicopter still had to fly 8 10 minutes"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "to our other refueling helicopter. We"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "landed. We got gas, right? Uh, everybody"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "thinks it was the 24 seals that pulled"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "this off. There's some army refueler out"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "there who joined the army to refuel"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "helicopters, right? Not be Delta Force"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "or anything crazy to refuel helicopters,"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "probably for college GI Bill. And that"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "night that army kid refueled us up."}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "Right? None of us would be back if it"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "weren't for the army kid who refueled"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "us. We got gas for 20 minutes. Right now"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "we've we've blown up our helicopter. So"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "now all the radars are coming up. Right."}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "Everybody's looking in Pakistan for"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "what's going on. And and you know you"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "still have a hour hour and a half hilo"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "ride to the border."}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "Wow man."}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "So sat on his body the whole way."}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "cleared uh cleared into Afghanistan,"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "landed,"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "turned over the body to to McCraven and"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "the crew, and then we we all flew up to"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "Bram,"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "turned over the body. We were all still"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "in our uniform when President Obama came"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "in and gave his whole spiel on the TV."}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "Like, we're literally watching Obama."}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "The bodies laying right there. I can"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "tell you our debrief, right? When when"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "we came back, we landed in Bram. We went"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "into a room and the whole team that had"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "just participated in that mission did a"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "debrief just like we do after BUDS just"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "like we do in Buds after every training"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "mission after every real operation you"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "do an AR after action review. We did"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "that with the whole group there and and"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "it was audio recorded. It was audio"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "recorded. My commanding officer on his"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "personal cell phone recorded the whole"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "debrief. Um, so I other versions,"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "whatever. All I know is what I know,"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "what I saw, and what I remember on the"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "audio recording. So that's all I'll say"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "about that."}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "Happy to answer any other questions you"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "might come up with."}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "Mhm."}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "Let's keep going with the de There's a"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "lot that's about to come out that's"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "important in in the debrief on items"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "that were kept. I mean, this is all"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "rolling into what you really want to"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "talk about. So, I just be as descriptive"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "as you can."}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "Yeah. I mean, we we did our debrief and"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "and that was it, right? Um"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "did our debrief, flew home. On the way"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "home, they're like, \"Guys, really good"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "job tonight. You get two days off.\""}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "Like, what? We showed up at the We"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "landed back at the beach, right? Uh"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "nobody ever meets you when you come home"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "from deployment, but half the command"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "was standing there with pizza and beer"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "and of course the Navy bus. get on the"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "Navy bus back to the base. Um, that's"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "why was why was Bin Laden's body thrown"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "into the ocean?"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "I don't know who made that decision. It"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "was somebody way above my pay grade. I"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "agree with it. I like it. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "you agree with it?"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "Yeah. Why?"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "We turned over the body to some Army"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "counterparts, some Army Rangers, and"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "they're the ones who flew it all the way"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "out to the carrier and and dumped it."}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "I like it cuz it's uh there's no shrine,"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "no memorial. He's just simply gone."}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "There's nobody. Even Al Qaeda has not"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "said, \"Hey, he's still alive and we've"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "got him.\" Like prove you've got him."}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "He's gone. Done. Erased, deleted,"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "never to be seen again."}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "Right on."}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "I I I kind of like that, right? If there"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "was some memorial or, you know, shrine"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "to where they buried him, maybe that"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "would be a little different. I don't"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "know."}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "Makes sense."}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "But it also created a lot of conspiracy"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "theories. But, you know,"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "government's got the photos. They can"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "release them. They can do whatever they"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "want."}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "Was that that photo that there was a"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "photo that was circulating around that"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "was [ __ ] You didn't take that"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "photo. All right. All right."}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "All the all Yeah. Any of the stuff"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "online is not accurate. It's all"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "so we were talking about, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "the Hilo ride back where you had to"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "think about you got to think about"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "putting a bullet in Bin Laden."}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "Now"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "I think everybody processed it when we"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "landed in Bram, right? We landed in"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "Bram. We did our debrief and and then we"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "left the hanger, right? Downloaded all"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "our gear. Like we were flying back a"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "couple hours later. So, literally"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "download, debrief, download. Okay. All"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "that was done and we had a couple hours"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "and and we went to some of the some of"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "the old area that we could hang out at"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "Bram um and hung out there and there was"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "some TVs that guys were turning on and"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "that's where the story was breaking in"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "the states, right? Like Bin Laden had g"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "or Obama had given his spiel, right?"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "There's the stuff university guy"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "universities going crazy. There was some"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "like ticker tape at like a baseball game"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "or something. all these things were were"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "breaking and and I would say that was"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "the first time everybody sat in the room"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "and was like,"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "take a breath."}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "I hadn't had a chance to do that until"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "then, right? We still getting back. We"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "still had something to do. We just got"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "done. Like now it's out. Only thing"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "you're waiting for is a plane ride home"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "and you got a couple hours to kill. and"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "we all went into like this area and just"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "hung out, watched some TV until like,"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "\"All right, guys, plane's ready.\" And"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "then we we hopped the flight. They uh"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "you know, you typically stop in Germany."}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "We aired to air, refueled on the way"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "home, flew all the way back to the"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "beach, landed, and good job, guys. Two"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "days off. I went to work both days cuz"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "what what do you do when the world has"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "just exploded in such a way, right? And"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "what? You're going to go hang out at"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "home and feel like you're normal? No"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "way. Everybody showed up at work, right?"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "I I see one of my good friends. I went"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "through green team with him. We spent"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "eight years. I saw him more than I saw"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "my family, right? I see him the day"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "after two days after the mission in our"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "cage area at the command."}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "I'm like, \"Hey, Pat, are you he looks at"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "me, he's like, \"Hey, man. Can I ask you"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "a question?\" Yeah. What do you got,"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "dude? He looks around, makes sure nobody"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "else is there, and he's like, \"Hey, are"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "you sleeping?\""}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "like, \"Fuck no, I'm not sleeping. I"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "haven't slept in days.\" He's like,"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "\"Okay, all right, good. I feel normal.\""}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "That that was the single most emotional"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "conversation I ever had with any"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "teammate in 14 years."}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "No [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "That was it. Are you sleeping? Nobody"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "ever got No, nobody talked about it."}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "Nobody talked about mental health or how"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "you were doing. There was none of that."}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "It was"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "um so that was that was 2 days after the"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "mission. One of my best friends like,"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "\"Hey, man, are you sleeping? Cuz I'm"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "not.\" I'm like, \"Fuck no, I'm not"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "sleeping.\" He's like, \"Okay, good. Good."}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "I feel normal, too.\""}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "[ __ ] man."}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "It was a lot. It was a lot. It was"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "crazy, right? And the media just hypes"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "it up and makes it want to be crazier."}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "it was us just doing Yes, it was a very"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "historical significant event. I get it."}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "I'm more proud of the Captain Phillips"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "stuff. And I wasn't even one of the"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "shooters, right? We saved somebody, not"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "just killed a whole bunch of"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "knuckleheads. I I get that Bin Laden's a"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "significant figure. I'm not knocking it."}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "But it was um"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "yeah, it was a lot. It's a lot. All the"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "all the stuff Seals training gives you,"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "right? We can go sniper, shoot, you"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "know, homemade bombs, all the all the"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "stuff we've been trained to do. Not one"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "second. And hey, what do you do if your"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "friend gets shot in the face? What do"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "you do if you do a Bin Laden mission and"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "it's it's [ __ ] you up at home and you"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "can't sleep? Nothing."}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "So yeah, that's tough."}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "Damn, man. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "if if you're always going to revert to"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "your training,"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "in a bad situation, there was no"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "training to revert to. It was just, man,"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "the the the"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "right from my first deployment to that,"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "lots of missions in between"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "and right, what do you how are you"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "evolving, adapting, what was changing in"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "between that? I I saw it all change,"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "man. and I saw from the beginning to the"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "end. Um,"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "yeah. Yeah, it was tough. Not not any of"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "that, not any section, not any second in"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "there was any leadership ever worrying"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "about the individual operator."}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "Brand new. Everybody was excited to be"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "there, right? Okay. Eighth deployment,"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "ninth deployment, 10th deployment."}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "Nobody was ever checking in like, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "Sean, are you okay?\" Yeah. Another three"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "12 devoices in the squadron last year."}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "Your family okay? Nobody ever asked"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "that. Nobody once ever said, \"Hey, your"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "family okay? Your kids okay? Are you"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "home enough?\" No way. And then if you"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "did mention, \"Hey, I got some stuff"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "going on at home.\" It's like, \"Oh boy,"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "we're losing this.\""}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "So it was uh the the expectation"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "and the pressure certainly at at my"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "former command grew and grew and grew"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "and with the success of Captain Phillips"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "and then with the success of Bin Laden"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "all of this the expectation was okay"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "you're going to be fine and if I'm the"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "officer in charge we're going to do all"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "this great stuff I'm going to look good"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "and I don't have to worry about the side"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "effect it's having on my crew. Um"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "but yeah, the the and then shortly after"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "the bin Laden raid and all the high of"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "that, we had extortion"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "and you want to talk about a gut punch,"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "right? Um"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "that was crushing."}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "How long after the braid was extortion?"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "What? August. Uh the May August."}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "Couple of months."}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "Heavy heavy heavy heavy. Um,"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "and yeah, I mean that that was kind of"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "one of the final straws for me, right? I"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "knew my enlistment was coming up in"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "December. Um,"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "I had been talking about I didn't like"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "the the decisions being made in in"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "Afghanistan, taking away our dogs,"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "saying no night missions, all this"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "nonsense."}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "I I had joined and stayed in because of"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "911 and I did all these deployments and"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "I saw all this change happening"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "throughout this stretch and as the"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "longer I stayed in the more I saw our"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "our leadership right was was promoted"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "based off writing their own awards and"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "the number of missions they ran not how"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "they took care of their guys or evolved"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "what we were doing. Right? Name a name a"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "general or an admiral in Afghanistan who"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "said the"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "the way we were doing it was wrong and"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "survived. There aren't any. There's not"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "one. There's no leadership in our"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "military who said, \"Hey, the approach we"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "have in Afghanistan is wrong. We should"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "be doing this.\" No, you're relieved and"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "we're going to bring in another yes man"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "to to deliver my policy of what I want"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "you to do. And so I I just kept seeing"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "more and more of that. Um"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "and and yeah, I knew I knew that uh the"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "leadership uh whether Panetta,"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "Admiral McCraven, President Obama, all"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "giving interviews and all their stuff"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "for their own"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "hype. Um and and that's that's what"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "finally hit me. And that's"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "disgusted you."}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "Yeah. What was McGraven's position at"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "the time?"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "I don't care about that guy. I could"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "give two shits about McCraven."}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "Was he I mean, what was he though?"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "He was uh commander of JOK."}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "He was the JCO commander. Okay."}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know,"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "I'll just put it this way. McCraven was"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "at the command years ago, right before"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "he was the commanding officer. He was"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "not wellliked at all. Everybody always"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "saw him as a horrible boss, at least"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "from my level, my perspective only. Um,"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "he gave it when he left the squadron, he"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "he he like had this big plaque made that"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "hung in the team room for years."}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "Years later, he becomes the position he"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "was in."}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "Nobody liked him. Nobody liked the"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "position he was in. He was very involved"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "in trying to take away the dogs and the"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "night missions and all the stuff that"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "helped keep us safe on these very"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "dangerous missions. So I I may or may"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "not have been there when his plaque was"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "removed from the team room wall. We cut"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "it in half. We shipped it overseas to uh"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "a forward operating base in Afghanistan"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "that we were working out of and we burnt"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "it in the fire pit."}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "Now, uh, we can we can keep going with"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "the McRaven references here because I'm"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "I'm not a fan, right? You know, I I"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "wrote No Easy Day, right?"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "Hold on. Before we get there, I'm just"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "We'll get there. I know. I know we got a"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "lot to cover there. Just want to re"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "rewind just a little bit."}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "You know, when you How long was it after"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "the Bin Laden raid when you just you"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "were you left the Navy?"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "The raid was in May. I got out in"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "December. End of December. January 1st."}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "on to terminal leave."}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "Seven months."}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "When did you decide you were getting"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "out? How how fast did you know this is"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "it?"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "I'd been talking about getting out"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "before my last deploy. We I told you we"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "came home from the last deployment and"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "10 days later we were spinning up on the"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "bin Laden thing. So, um I'd been talking"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "to a lot of my guys on that deployment"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "cuz that deployment had slowed down. All"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "the new rules were kicking in that were"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "making it more dangerous for us. and and"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "I as somebody who'd been there this"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "whole time was looking at this and like"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "this is this doesn't seem right like"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "we're going backwards here and and I was"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "getting very frustrated with how we were"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "going backwards. I' I'd lived through"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "the beginning. I'd seen all the ups and"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "downs and here we were at the end and I"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "felt like we were going backwards,"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "right? I was I was not an officer. I was"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "an enlisted guy who stayed there and"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "operated the entire time. Right? Our"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "officers bounce in and out and in and"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "out and back and forth. I was there. So"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "I saw I saw a lot of changes and the"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "more changes I saw, the less and the"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "more senior and the more mature I got"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "and the more the older I got and the"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "more dead friends I earned or gained. I"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "was like, man, maybe I'm not putting"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "myself in the healthiest position here"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "being sent to war by by some of these"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "these idiots. And and so I was very open"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "and honest with my team that, hey, I you"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "know, I I don't I don't know about this."}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "So when I got back from that deployment,"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "probably after the Milan mission now,"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "but that's when I went and sat down with"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "my master chief and I was like, \"Hey, I"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "I need a break.\" Right? I was done in"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "operational in the squadron. There was"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "no longer staying there. I'd done very"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "few guys stayed there that long. They're"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "like, \"Okay, you got to move out of the"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "squadron and go do something different"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "now.\" I'm like, \"Okay, well, I I need a"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "break for 18 months. If I'm leaving the"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "squadron, give me a break.\" And that's"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "when they were like, \"No, the only other"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "billet we're going to give you is an"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "operational billet at a different"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "squadron.\""}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "I was like, \"Okay, well, if if those are"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "my options, if you're you're my Master"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "Chief telling me my only option is this,"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "okay, thank you for that clarity. I"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "already knew what was going on at the"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "senior ranks and in the military and"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "what was going on in Afghanistan, and I"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "saw them making it more dangerous for us"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "doing our jobs. I was like, why why am I"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "going to continue to volunteer for these"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "knuckleheads?\""}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "Well, I mean, what did the other guys"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "think? Were they on the same page as"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "you?"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "Depends on where your enlistment is. You"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "know the deal, right? Are you at 16"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "years? Are you at 20? You know, how"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "close are you to that retirement, right?"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "I I never joined for retirement, right?"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "I I joined because I wanted to serve."}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "And then I stayed. And then I just"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "stayed and stayed and stayed because"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "there was a war going on and very few of"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "us were doing it. So, I stayed. Um I"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "didn't stay for the paycheck. You know,"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "there's not much paycheck there."}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "Retirement, right? I could do 20 years"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "and retire at the same amount the the"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "trombone player in the Navy band does 20"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "years and retires, right? So, it's not"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "about the money. Um, like I said, I got"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "out with a plaque with my name is"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "spelled. That's all I got. So, it's"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "never been about um"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "I don't know what it's been about, but"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "it hasn't been about"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "it was just it was it was time for me."}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "The the other guys other guys that I"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "worked with, you know, maybe they're"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "sitting at 16 years. I was at 14. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "they have two years left on their"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "enlistment that gets them to 18. And"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "then, you know, they were they were"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "trying to get us all with the big"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "investment bonuses at 19 years. If you"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "stay at 25, we'll give you some big"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "money tax-free. So, they were they were"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "definitely courting a lot of the guys at"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "that level. And the hook is if you do"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "pass 10, well, why not stay till 20 and"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "get your retirement?"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "Right? I was at 14. Why not stay six"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "more?"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "Well, what are the odds I make it six?"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "It's pretty pretty good odds I made it"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "at 14 based off the amount of friends"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "that aren't here, right? What are the"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "odds I make it another six and then"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "these six years I'm not going to be"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "operational where I like? You're going"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "to put me in the leadership with all"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "these clowns that I I don't trust and"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "respect now. I'm out. [ __ ] hey, man."}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "Damn."}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "Did you have any aspirations to write"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "the book before you were out?"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "I had talked to Well, we knew we knew uh"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "the movie was being made within 3 weeks"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "of the mission."}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "So the movie idea and everything that"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "the movie was happening was everybody"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "knew that."}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "You mean what do you mean within 3 weeks"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "of the mission? You mean you mean the"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "movie was being discussed before"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "bin Laden dies"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "three weeks within the mission we go to"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "Petta's retirement ceremony and he has"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "at Langley Virginia full access to"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "Langley"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "the screenwriter producer and director."}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "So we all knew that very very loud and"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "proud that okay they're making a movie"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "out of this. Dude, how the [ __ ] does the"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "government sue you for $7 million"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "for writing a book or whatever the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "they they"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "whatever you call it, prosecuted you."}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "They [ __ ] took your money. They took"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "your They took $7 million that you"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "earned from the book, but"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "the director of CIA has given full"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "access to CIA headquarters at Langley,"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "Virginia to make a [ __ ] movie. They"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "gave the female CIA woman, they gave her"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "permission to talk to the producers to"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "give him the movie. That's the reason"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "the movie is so accurate."}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "So, so we all knew plain as day, right?"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "We we we knew this was happening. We"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "knew this was coming and and honestly,"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "it wasn't much of a surprise,"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "right? Um, did your team know you were"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "going to write the book? Not everybody,"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "but I talked to a crew that that uh that"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "I respected and said, \"Hey, here's what"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "I'm doing.\""}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "What was their take?"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "Mixed mixed results. Um"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "I a key piece to explaining what I was"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "doing was, \"Hey, look, I'm not putting"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "my name on it. I'm not getting out in"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "front of it.\""}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "And and I think they were like, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "that makes sense. If you're going to do"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "that, we get it.\" Cuz everybody else"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "we'd seen was beating their chest,"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "taking credit, right? Um, and I was"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "like, \"Look, I I don't want any of that."}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "Um, I'm not using my name. I I don't"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "have any plans on showing my face. I"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "want to tell the story. I'm a kid who"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "read a book. I read a whole bunch of"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "books growing up. And it's because of"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "those books that I volunteerily did 13"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "[ __ ] tours, right? It was those books"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "I read about, right? It wasn't uh so"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "yeah, I I don't think writing books is"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "bad."}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "Um, you know, I I think if you're a SEAL"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "who's done, and there's some out there,"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "right? uh that have done very little and"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "written about it a lot. Those those kind"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "of give a bad uh but those are also guys"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "saying hey look at me at the same time."}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "So I I took a very different approach."}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "I' I've been there did it. I don't want"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "the I don't want the press publicity and"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "I'm going to I'm going to tell the story"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "and I'm going to do it under the radar."}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "At least that was the that was the"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "approach. That was the plan till I got"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "punched in the face."}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "Where do we go from here?"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Did you know the SEAL leadership sent"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "three active duty SEALs to consult on"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "Zero Dark 30?"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "Are you serious?"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "They weren't part of the mission. Active"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "duty SEALs were sent to consult that"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "weren't even part of the mission. I knew"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "the president had authorized the movies"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "and the books, right? I knew all of that"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "was happening. Right. 3 weeks after the"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "Bin Laden mission, we go to Leon Petta's"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "retirement ceremony from Langley,"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "Virginia. He's going to go over and be"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "Secretary of Defense. He gives a great"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "speech on stage, gets off stage,"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "Langley, Virginia, right? Um, and he"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "literally brings over Katherine Bigalow"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "and Mark Bull, Hollywood producer,"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "screenwriter, director for Zero Dark 30."}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "Panetta introduces them to us and says,"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "\"Hey, look, they're going to make you"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "famous.\""}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "So, so within three weeks, less than a"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "month of the mission,"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "for those that don't know, Leon Petta"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "was director of CIA at the time."}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "Yep. Right. So he uh full full access"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "for Hollywood for that movie, right? I"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "knew that firsthand within a month of"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "the mission, right? I got out of the"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "Navy, right? I hurt my neck in the"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "crash. That was the last mission I was"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "ever on. I get out of the Navy later"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "that fall. Um I'm contacted by the"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "author Mark Bowen. Mark Bowen wrote"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "Blackhawk Down. He wrote a book called"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "The Finish about the Bin Laden raid. And"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "he contacts me. He's like, \"Hey, Matt,"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "I've already interviewed President"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "Obama. I got the White House perspective"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "of the raid. I've already interviewed"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "Admiral McCraven. I got the J- Sock"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "perspective of the raid. We would love"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "to interview you for your ground truth"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "perspective.\" Fascinating. I already"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "knew the movie, right? Movie was"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "percolating. Like, when do you want your"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "book to come out? It's like, well, we're"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "trying hard to get it out before the"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "election."}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "Okay. So, I'm an enlisted guy, right? I"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "work for a living, right? I'm not the"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "I'm not the admiral. I'm not the the"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "general. I'm not the president."}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "Speaker of CIA."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "I'm sitting in my position watching"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "every single leader from this country be"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "willing to talk about their heroic"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "actions for their right, you know,"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "re-election campaign, whatever you want"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "to call it."}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "Mhm."}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "It It pissed me off. All right. It made"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "me mad because none of the 24 operators"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "that were on the mission um"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "were getting any credit for it, right?"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "It was all the heroic decision-m in"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "Washington DC. And so so that's when I I"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "knew I was getting out. I uh whole bunch"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "of us had been to ground zero, right?"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "I'd never been to New York City before."}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "We went to ground zero after the bin"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "Laden raid. Crushed me, right? I stood"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "there at ground zero and and and"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "uh I'm pretty pretty good at blocking"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "out the emotions. It crushed me and I"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "knew I had hurt my back pretty"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "significantly on the on the Hilo crash."}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "I was getting a divorce. I was had done"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "13 straight tours at that time and uh"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "and it just felt like really good"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "bookends. My very first deployment 911"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "happened. Last thing I did is crash into"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "his compound. I'm now so senior. going"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "to take me out of the operational side"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "of things."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "How many guys were on the raid? 25."}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "24. 24 people out of the entire world on"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "the raid that takes out the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "world's most wanted man and"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "pissed a lot of people off."}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "But I didn't want the story to be about"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "me. Who? It's irrelevant who wrote the"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "book. It's like let's hear the story."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "Who are these type of people? Where do"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "they come from? Where do you know who"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "are these guys? What are seals? What are"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "they all about?"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "Right. And and I think Hollywood does a"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "pretty shitty job in in portraying it,"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "right? They they they think we all look"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "like Jaco Willink, right? But I'm sorry,"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "I don't look like Joo. I I I don't run"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "like Gogggins, right? Like, sorry. My"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "book came out before the presidential"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "election and it came out before Obama's"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "movie, right? Before the Zero Dark 30"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "movie and I want to say it might have"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "come out before The Finish, which was"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "the book that they'd all given"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "interviews for."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "So, my my book was a surprise to the"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "White House and everybody else. So, the"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "DOJ is sent after me. Um, man, holy"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "[ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "You You think getting in a gunfight's"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "bad? I've never seen anything like I"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "didn't know anything about it. I didn't"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "know that this world existed."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "Um, and then and then my real battle"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "started, right? Uh,"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "three years. So, this really happened"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "because"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "Zero Dark 30, the president's in"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "Panetta's movie wasn't out."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "Their book wasn't out."}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "Interesting timing to all of this,"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "right? If I if I look at somebody who's"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "running for president for a second term,"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "right, who's going to run very much so"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "on his movie that he's promoting that's"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "promoting his heroic decision-making to"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "take out Bin Laden, right? Right. You"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "want to make sure that narrative is is"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "out there. Well, if a nobody presents a"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "narrative that could counter yours,"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "whether you've read it or not, what do"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "you do? You crush the competition."}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "Right? If if you have a Hunter Biden"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "laptop weeks before a presidential"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "election that could upset the election,"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "what do you do? You have a hundred"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "former intelligence officers write about"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "the fact that this isn't a real laptop"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "and this is all fake and they crush the"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "other news. Same difference. I was just"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "a nobody. And so they came after me and"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "legally, right? So legally, so lots of"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "lawyers throwing all sorts of threats."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "My original attorney, right, the guy had"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "given me all the advice that says,"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "\"Look, I can review it.\" He's like,"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "\"Look, they're wrong. There's nothing"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "classified in the book.\" He's like,"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "\"Wait till they read it. They'll leave"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "you alone. There's nothing wrong.\" I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "like, \"I they seem pretty angry here.\""}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "Like, \"What's the deal?\" He's like, \"No,"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "you're good.\" Like, I I don't like that"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "vibe from my attorney when I got a whole"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "bunch of pitbulls over here yelling at"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "me. So, I hired a second attorney. First"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "attorney continues to tell my second"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "attorney that we had no obligation to"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "get the book reviewed, that he had the"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "prior authority to to review it, to vet"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "it, to make sure there was nothing"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "classified in it, and and check the box."}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "New attorney is like, man, I don't know"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "that that's accurate. So, remove"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "attorney one, bring in attorney two, and"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "go to the pitbulls at the DOJ and say,"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "\"Look, I'll give up attorney client"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "privilege. I didn't do any of this"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "maliciously. I'll I'll answer anything"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "you want. Like, please don't be so mad."}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "Look, this is exactly how we got here."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "I'll go through my emails with my"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "attorney. For the past 9 months, this"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "attorney's been guiding me through this"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "process to this moment. So, if you have"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "a if there's a legal problem here, let's"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "let's let's all sit down and discuss"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "this, right? That was when when all this"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "hit, right? All the drama in the press"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "hit when the book came out. I've been"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "taught, right? Communicate with"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "leadership. If there's a problem,"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "communicate with leadership. I'd done"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "that every time in the teams, right?"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "There's a problem, go hit up leadership"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "and communicate. It's our single biggest"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "asset is our ability to communicate"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "through the issues."}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "I text messaged my former commanding"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "officer, commanding officer of my"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "squadron who'd moved up to be commanding"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "officer of the whole team. Said, \"Hey"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "sir, this has gotten out of hand. I"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "would love to talk with you about this"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "and explain what's going on. Open up"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "communication.\" He responds back with"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "two-word text. Delete me."}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "That is a perfect example of the"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "leadership inside NSW,"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "right? Delete me. Did you have any"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "aspirations to write the book before you"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "were out?"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "I had talked to Well, we knew we knew uh"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "the movie was being made within 3 weeks"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "of the mission."}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "So, the the movie idea and everything"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "that the movie was happening was"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "everybody knew that."}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "You mean what do you mean within 3 weeks"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "of the mission? You mean you mean the"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "movie was being discussed before"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "Bin Laden dies"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "three weeks within the mission we go to"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "Panetta's retirement ceremony and he has"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "at Langley Virginia full access to"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "Langley"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "the screenwriter producer and director."}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "So we all knew that very very loud and"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "proud that okay they're making a movie"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "out of this. Dude, how the [ __ ] does the"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "government sue you for $7 million"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "for writing a book or whatever the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "they they"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "whatever you call it, prosecuted you."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "They [ __ ] took your money. They took"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "your They took $7 million that you"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "earned from the book, but"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "the director of CIA has given full"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "access to CIA headquarters at Langley,"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "Virginia to make a [ __ ] movie. They"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "gave the female CIA woman, they gave her"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "permission to talk to the producers to"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "give them the movie. That's the reason"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "the movie is so accurate."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "No matter where you're watching Shawn"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "Ryan show from, if you get anything out"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "of this, please like, comment,"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "subscribe, and most importantly, share"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "this everywhere you possibly can. And if"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "you're feeling extra generous, please"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "leave us a review on Apple and Spotify"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "podcasts."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Mogadish. You guys, they know more than"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "anybody else what you're about to walk"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "into."}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "My son was born. Everything was good."}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "And then some complications occur with"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "my wife. Black suburban pulls up with"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "the star major of the training who was a"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "team leader in Moadishu. And he's like,"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "\"Where's Spooner?\" \"Yeah, I'm fired."}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "Okay, your wife's okay, but she's in the"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "hospital. Go take care of business. Go"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "take care of your family. Keep me"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "updated.\" His wife is taking care of my"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "wife. I start laughing at the dude. Do"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "you want one of my kids? She's like,"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "\"Hey, man. Just throw chem lights and"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "try to keep up.\" Especially"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "with the guys that are putting you"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "through. I mean, the Moadishu guys, Tom"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "Sadly and his boys,"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "and we've interviewed Tom."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "And uh I mean, what was"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "And then knowing they know"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "They know more than anybody else what"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "you're about to walk into."}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "Yeah. And so,"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "you know,"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "I would think that they"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "had to be [ __ ] tough."}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "Yeah, man."}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "I mean, those had to be some some hard"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "men to please. And"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "I would imagine that they"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "I mean, did did it seem like they just"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "despise you? Like there's no way that"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "you could ever"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "no"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "rise to their expectation to be able to"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "work alongside with them."}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "Wasn't that at all?"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "No [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "Yeah, man. I mean, they were super"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "they were super tough"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "at upholding the standard."}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "So, there wasn't any extra"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "uh like the standard was so hard number"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "one. Uh but now the intensity level has"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "gone up. Maybe it's always been that"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "way. You know what? I mean I don't I"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "don't know. I only know my class and the"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "classes after that that I was cadre on."}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "But it was like that level of intensity"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "of the focus on the standard of doing it"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "right man was"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "off the charts and we had a really small"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "group."}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "How many"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "there was no I mean there was probably"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "10 to 12 guys in in in my little group"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "you know. So there was almost a onetoone"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "instructor like you weren't getting away"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "with nothing and they were not going to"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "send a product to like all of those guys"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "had already obviously their instructor"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "status now they had spent you know years"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "on the teams like they're not"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "sendingbody any ship back to their"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "friends. So there's that aspect of it"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "too, like because there's a good chance"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "that they'll be working with them, you"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "know, because after they finish th that"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "time as being instructor, they're going"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "right back,"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "you know? So that that's what keeps us"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "so fresh. So yeah, it was super intense,"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "man. And then so it was the normal"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "pressure and then the self-imposed"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "pressure cuz here I am now another Super"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "Bowl win, right? like uh now I'm going"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "through the gate of this compound that"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "I' had been around for 11 years"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "and uh I'm actually going through the"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "gate. So for a little while the you know"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "and the intensity so had and every week"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "they made a decision where you were"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "staying or not. I mean that was common"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "knowledge. They had a little meeting and"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "with the instructors it was where you"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "were sta whether you were staying or not"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "and there was guys getting getting"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "chipped off you know what I mean and"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "then I mean just because you made it"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "through that so if you had to make it"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "through the last board at the end you"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "know what I mean it was intense but I"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "loved it you know what I mean and again"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "it was during that time so that was just"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "amazing right and so back to month two"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "you know basically of it January time"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "frame my son was born in the middle of"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "January"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "Right. So, uh, and during that time in"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "the training course, you know, it was a"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "lot of basic stuff that we were they're"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "doing at the time because they're"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "getting the the whole group up to speed"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "because, you know, they're pulling from"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "guys with all different backgrounds, you"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "know, I mean, so getting everybody,"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "setting everybody up for success along"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "the way. So, there's a lot of stuff"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "marksmanship wise that I was already"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "good at and a lot of things. So, uh, my"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "son was born and, um, so awesome, you"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "know what I mean? uh 2-year-old infant,"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "you know, newborn uh and wife,"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "everything's good. Um you know, have a"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "little bit of time to take care of that."}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "Then family's coming in to help take"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "care of, you know, obviously very"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "planned for cuz I got to be in this"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "course, you know, I mean,"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "so it's all good. Everything was good."}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "And then some complications occur with"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "my wife. She has very hard hard time"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "with pregnancies. Uh and so, but it was"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "that was mostly during pregnancy. This"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "was post. So usually no problems after"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "Well, I don't know that there's a"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "problem. I'm on the range. Black"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "Suburban pulls up, you know, with the"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "the star major of the training, you know"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "what I mean? Who was a team leader in"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "Moadishu, by the way? So that whole"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "crew, you know what I mean? So,"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "so he shows up and he's like, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "where's Spooner?\""}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "\"Yeah, I'm fired.\" You know what I mean?"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "Like this major doesn't come."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "You know what I mean? at the range and"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "ask for like for only one reason. You're"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "out of here. So, I get in the and he"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "don't say [ __ ] He's like, \"Yeah, get"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "in.\" And uh get we get in and I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "\"I'm fired.\" You know what I mean? He's"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "like, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "uh your wife's okay. Uh but she's in the"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "hospital. Uh there's been some"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "complications. Uh she's stable, but you"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "know, there's a lot going on.\" He's"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "like, \"So, you're going to take this"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "Suburban? You're going to take this cell"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "phone cuz 2001 time frame, right? So, we"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "don't have iPhones and all that. you"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "know, you're going to take this cell"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "phone, uh, go take care of business, go"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "take care of your family, keep me"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "updated,"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "[ __ ] out of here. And uh, so I do, you"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "know what I mean? Roger that. Thanks,"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "Armen. You know what I mean? And I go,"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "but in my mind, I'm like, what? Where am"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "I? You know what I mean? Like, what? Who"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "does this? Like, I'm in a course that"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "you can't miss any time, man. I haven't"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "even made it, you know what I mean,"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "through the first month and now this is"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "going on, whatever. So go through and uh"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "you know it was a life uh a lot of"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "complications. We got septic there was"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "you know different different things that"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "had happened and um it took a few days"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "to get sables. So I mean I missed a"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "couple of days you know I mean cuz I got"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "a newborn a 2-year-old you know I mean"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "like there's a lot going on"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "and uh so I was like hey whatever I know"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "my priorities are straight you know what"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "I mean the family is first in this"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "scenario you know what I mean versus the"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "school and um they were just taking care"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "of it. I'm heading. So, we get it all"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "settled in again and after a couple of"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "days and I go back to work, you know, I"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "keep star major updated, everything's"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "good. I'm back to work. Uh, and then it"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "was after work this time. She ended up"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "having to go again to the hospital, you"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "know, I mean, so it's another little"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "stent. And um, so it was a lot a lot"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "going on, right? And um, and so I know"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "I'm like, man, I'm going to get at best"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "recycled, you know? Here I am again. And"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "like my little scenario, it's not me"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "this time as a family situation, but"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "it's like same kind of scenario where"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "like at best I'm going to get recycled."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "If not, like, hey man, you can't handle"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "your own family problems. You probably"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "don't need to be in this unit now. You"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "know what I mean? Kind of deal."}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "So um so anyway, I call the S major up"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "um and say, \"Hey, S Major, everything's"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "settled.\" Like he's like 100%. Uh cuz he"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "said, \"Don't call me until cuz she"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "didn't know she went and had to go"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "back.\" He's like, \"Okay.\" Hey, like make"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "sure it's settled before you call me"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "back again. Like, take the time. Make"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "sure your family's good. The support is"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "there that you need, whatever you need."}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "Meanwhile, this dude"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "is number one taking care of me by"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "allowing me to do that stuff. And his"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "wife is taking care of my wife. Like,"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "she's she's"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "we don't know this these people."}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "They haven't said this, but without"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "saying it, they didn't need to. is like,"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "\"Yeah, this is how we handle people"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "here, our people.\" You know what I mean?"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "It was like"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "it was [ __ ] bizarro world to me. And"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "it's like like coming calling my wife,"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "checking on my wife, like who the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "is she? Like it almost weirded me out a"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "little bit like what the [ __ ] in it"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "for them, you know? I mean, cuz I'm just"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "But it was just like so I call major up"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "say like, \"Hey, yeah, it's good.\" I was"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "like, \"We're good. We're solid.\" And and"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "I'm I'm waiting for him just to tell me."}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "He just didn't want to hurt my feelings"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "along the way, you know, like, \"Hey, I'm"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "going to recycle you into the next"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "class. You've missed six days of"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "training now, you know.\" And he's like,"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "\"Okay, you get settled. Yeah, good.\""}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "He's like, \"All right, uh, go to"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "Raleigh. There'll be a Cuz my guys, they"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "were doing training out at Campbell with"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "aircraft, you know.\" And it's like,"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "\"Hey, your team's already at out at"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "Campbell. There's a plane ticket waiting"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "for you in Raleigh. Pick up a ticket,"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "get on the plane, meet up with your"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "team, continue with training.\" I started"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "laughing at the dude like I'm like I"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "just started laughing and he's like what"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "and he was like I was like hey so major"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "like do you want one of my kids like"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "what no one does like what do you mean"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "like he was supposed to tell me like no"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "I'm recycling you know and he's telling"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "me to continue with the training you"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "know and uh"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "I was like you want one of my kids or"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "something he laughs a little bit you"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "know and he's like hey um he's like he's"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "like uh he's like hey man it's just the"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "right thing to do."}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "Like, watch that. Like, what the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "man? Who is this?"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "I haven't even made it. You know what I"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "mean? And like they're taken of me like"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "I'm a unit member. You know what I mean?"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "Like I like I'm"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "Your your mindset is I don't deserve"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "this treatment."}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "Yet."}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "Exactly."}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "Yeah. and they were like, \"Hey, yeah,"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "this as if,\" you know, and uh and here's"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "another example of like this next level"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "of brotherhood, this next level of care"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "for the family, you know what I mean?"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "This like, okay, I'm I'm in a different"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "different spot, you know, and and this"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "is the and these are with these guys,"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "you know what I mean? So it bursts that"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "bubble of or begins to burst some of the"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "bubble that hey to be a badass commando"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "you got to drink and tear up you know"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "and all that kind of stuff. I mean some"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "of them do and again I'm not judging but"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "then there's also a large group that"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "they they don't."}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "Time doesn't slow down and really you"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "shouldn't either. We all sit around and"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "say oh I'll get to that later but some"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "things shouldn't wait. like protecting"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "your family's financial future. Fabric"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "by Gerber Life is term life insurance"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "you can get done today. It's made for"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "busy parents like you. All online on"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "your schedule right from your couch. You"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "could be covered in under 10 minutes"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "with no health exam required. Fabric has"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "flexible, highquality policies that fit"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "your family and your budget. Like a"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "million dollars in coverage for less"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "than a dollar a day. If you have kids,"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "and especially if you're young and"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "healthy, the time to lock in low rates"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "is now. Join the thousands of parents"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "who trust Fabric to help protect their"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "family. Apply today in just minutes at"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "meetfabric.com/srclip."}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "That's meetfabric.com/srclip."}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "Meet fabric.com/srclip."}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "Policies issued by Western Southern Life"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "Insurance Company, not available in"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "certain states. prices subject to"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "underwriting and health questions."}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "They're just total badasses anyway, you"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "know what I mean? Like,"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "and so I was meeting all these different"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "kind of kind of dudes and everything,"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "you know? So, so my wife's better,"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "everything's good, you know, make it"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "through the course. Um, yeah. So, I'm so"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "I'm in, you know. Well, what did it feel"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "like getting through that course"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "with the graduate when you're done and"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "9/11 had just I mean you're the first"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "class to graduate"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "OTC at Delta."}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "I had thought of that to you just said"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "it"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "post 911."}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "The longest war in US history."}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "Yeah. Yeah, man. I was [ __ ] pumped."}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "What did they say to you?"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "Uh,"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "welcome"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "to the team. Yeah, man. like here's your"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "team room, here's your team sergeant,"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "here's like let's get to in typical"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "fashion it's like hey great job"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "no hold on tight it's going to be a wild"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "ride"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "no so then whenever it comes and now"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "then you get with the team right and so"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "that was the next uh kind of cup check"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "you know sanity check for me was like"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "you know how good can these guys really"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "be"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "what squadron did you go to"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "that was a yeah"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "so it's like hey how good could these"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "guys be you know cuz I've been doing CQB"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "be NSF for a while, been to CQB schools"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "and stuff. It's like now OTC level. It's"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "like, you know, and that much up the"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "game. It's like,"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "can they really be that much faster and"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "that much better? Like, cuz I don't have"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "a point of reference, you know what I"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "mean? And I'm a little bit arrogant guy"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "myself, you know? And uh and so when you"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "get to the team and then my two IC, you"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "know, uh he says to me, he's like, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "when we're going on team runs, you know,"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "doing CQB in the buildings, he's like,"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "\"Hey, man, just throw chem lights and"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "try to keep up.\" And I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "\"Okay.\" Like, \"Yeah, watch.\" You know,"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "me being my little bit of arrogance,"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "like,"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "you know, how good I am. You know what I"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "mean? It's like, uh, and so what did I"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "do for the next few weeks? throw cam"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "lights and try to keep up. You know what"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "I mean? Because it was these guys have"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "been working together like as you"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "experience, you know, get man, you get"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "on a team and these dudes have been"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "doing it at this level together for this"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "like that's I mean there's intuitive"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "[ __ ] they're doing. You know what I'm"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "saying? They just see how he's leaning"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "and he knows what he's doing already."}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "Like these guys know each other in the"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "house under nods. Like"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "it's it's incredible."}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "So there I am again just trying to keep"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "up, man. I'm trying to I mean I'm always"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "going for the title, man. And it's like"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "but in that crew of men and that crew of"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "of warrior like that, man, it was like"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "like holy crap, man. Let me just be"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "amongst them, you know, and be and have"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "a a decent reputation amongst them. Like"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "that was like"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "the goal. I mean some days you'd win,"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "you know, be on top, but then you knew"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "that they were coming. It was that"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "healthy competitiveness, man, where it"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "was just like it it was incredible. it"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "just and created this fighting force"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "that was unlike anything I've ever"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "experienced in my life. And now I was"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "part of it, man. So I was I was"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "ecstatic. And again with my"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "my belief system in place is that okay,"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "if I'm not supposed to be here, I"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "wouldn't have made it. So I'm supposed"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "to be here. So be all in until I'm not"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "like living moment at the moment, living"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "in the present, living in the day,"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "having in the plan, and like learn your"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "job, get to work, and like let's go and"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "let's go to war, man. like I am, you"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "know what I mean? That's been 11 years,"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "you know what I mean? Like my whole life"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "for this moment."}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "Like, and obviously there was some na"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "naive to that cuz I mean I experienced"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "some of it in the Gulf War, but just a"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "just a taste, you know,"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "so there was a little bit of naive of"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "what that meant, but I I kind of knew"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "what it meant. Um, you know, and I was"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "again now I'm almost 12 years or 12"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "years in a lot of hard stuff. I was"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "pretty hardened, trained,"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "hardened mind, body, and spirit dude,"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "you know, like I was about as prepared"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "as you can get to go to war."}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "How long was it after you graduated OTC"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "before you went out the door on your"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "first appointment?"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "Two months."}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "That's it. two, maybe three. No matter"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "where you're watching Shawn Ryan Show"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "from, if you get anything out of this,"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "please like, comment, subscribe, and"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "most importantly, share this everywhere"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "you possibly can. And if you're feeling"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "extra generous, please leave us a review"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "on Apple and Spotify podcasts."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "you know, we're seeing more and more EVs"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "and autonomous vehicles and and you"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "know, I mean, the the is that the robo"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "taxi? Yeah. Is that the is that Tesla's"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "new, you know, taxi? And and so we're"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "seeing these self-driving cars and just"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "all this autonomous vehicles is"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "they're massive right now. And so what"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "what is the what is the what is"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "transport? What is just public road"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "systems? I mean in what do they look"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "like in 5 to 10 years as we continue to"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "move down the autonomous vehicle?"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "So we we're on the cusp of the most"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "transformative time period in American"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "travel. It's the it's things are going"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "to change faster and then in in the"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "tenure I have at DOT than any any time I"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "think in recent history. And so to talk"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "about that so um again auton autonomous"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "technology has been remarkable. has been"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "it's it's advancing um at incredible"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "speed. So, we lose about 40 42,000 lives"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "a year on the road. Way too many. Um I"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "do think that uh this technology can"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "help again. People pick up their phones"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "all like I'm grabbing my phone and I'm"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "driving and a text comes in or you know"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "I'm texting someone like this is the"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "[ __ ] that kills people,"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "right? Or people drink and drive. I so I"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "do think the autonomous technology is"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "going to um radically improve safety on"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "the roadway. Um I want people to choose"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "what they what they want, but you might"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "find a time when you don't buy a car,"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "which but that's not me. I'll always"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "have a car. Like I like the freedom of"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "having my own car and I want to drive my"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "own car. Like maybe that's generational,"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "but that's freedom. But there might be a"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "time where you don't need one and just"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "you're going to have an autonomous"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "vehicle come by and pick you up and you"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "know drop you off and when you're going"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "to grocery shop and you're going to call"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "one back and you're going to get in and"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "you're going to go home or you might"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "lease your car out into the marketplace"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "that someone can rent it um from you and"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "it's autonomous. So I think I think the"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "the Uber model with autonomous model is"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "going to change the way people use"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "vehicles. Do you think that's going to"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "be a lot more people lot a lot of people"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "what do I say a lot more people without"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "a car"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "it could be or it could drive the for"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "those who are on the cusp it'll make"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "that it'll make it less expensive um and"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "more user friendly potentially um we do"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "have the potential of tech with"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "technology if you look"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "so you you'd think that a lot more"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "people are going to be gravitating"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "towards public transportation"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "than owning their own vehicles."}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "No, I So I'm saying that you'd have an"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "Uber model, but Ubers don't have"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "drivers. Ubers are using autonomous"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "vehicles"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "and their fleet could be I'm just using"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "Uber as an example."}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "Uber could have their own fleet, but you"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "could lease your vehicle"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "into the Uber fleet and they're all"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "running autonomously."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "I mean, that would that's that's"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "considered public transportation, isn't"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "it?"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "Yeah, it would. Well, I don't know if I"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "call Uber public I mean, I think public"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "transportation is when the public"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "provides transportation with buses."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "And and and trains. This is a private"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "company providing public uh private"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "private transit."}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "I mean, with these with the stuff that"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "we're seeing, you know, Elon come up"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "with robo taxis, all these things. I"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "mean, are we going to start seeing those"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "as as public transportation, no bus"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "drivers, school buses,"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "100%. And it would be it some of the"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "modeling that I've seen, it would be"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "cheaper. Move people. You're not driving"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "this big bus around in hopes that"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "someone might want to get on it."}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "And then you're picking up and dropping"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "people off off the route that's not"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "actually where they want to go. You"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "might more cost effectively be able to"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "use"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "this autonomous technology to to take"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "people from where they are to where they"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "actually want to go and do it cheaper"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "than, you know, using the bus system to"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "do it. So yeah, that we could have a"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "public transportation component as well."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "But also on the congestion side,"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "again there's a whole conversation that"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "we have to have about um how this"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "information is used and the security of"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "the information and individual liberty"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "which I am very concerned about. But if"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "we set that aside, which I would never"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "set it aside, but just for the"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "conversation sake, you could have"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "vehicles, you know, when we look at the"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "congestion on on on on our on our"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "streets and our roads, you can have this"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "technology bring vehicles much closer"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "together and move more vehicles on the"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "same roadway because of the technology"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "on those vehicles. So, we can reduce"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "congestion remarkably"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "um with this technology. Um so, that'll"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "be interesting as this is all developed."}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "And my my job is to as as the technology"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "evolves, I'm kind of the Goldilocks,"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "right? I can't I can't let regulation go"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "too far where if bad things happen,"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "people get hurt, then it's going to set"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "us back, you know, five or 10 years. And"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "I can't be too slow because the"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "innovators will then go somewhere else,"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "this innovation will happen in a"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "different country. I have to be just"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "right. Right. And it's a it's a it's a"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "art, not a science, of making sure I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "changing our rules and regulations as"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "the technology evolves and making sure"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "it's safe for people. But again, I want"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "I want that innovation to happen here. I"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "want autonomous vehicle technology to be"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "deployed from the US around the world. I"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "don't want Chinese autonomous technology"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "to be deployed in the US. That's a"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "national security risk and threat for"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "us. We do not want that. Um but what"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "else is what's also going to change and"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "we're and by the way so we you already"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "have I think it's in Austin um Tesla's"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "already doing this with the robo taxi"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "and we're going to see this you know how"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "does it go there and you'll see more"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "deployment around around the country but"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "but drone deliveries drones are going to"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "radically change the way your products"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "move. Um we're going to take vehicles"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "off the street and right now they're"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "about uh 3 and a half pound deliveries"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "to 5B deliveries. Um,"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "but yeah, drones are going to deliver a"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "ton of stuff uh to people. Um, whether"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "you want to get a hot cup of coffee in"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "the morning, whether you need medicine"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "from the from the drugstore, whether you"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "went shopping and, you know, you forgot"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "to grab something at the store, drone uh"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "drone delivery is is going to radically"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "change the way products move. Um, and I"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "want that technology to be American"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "technology,"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "which means I have to get the regulation"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "right. And then you've seen these"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "evatls, these Ubers in the air, the"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "electric"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "helicopter."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "You haven't seen these?"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "I think I think I've seen"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "there's"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "I think I've seen these."}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "Okay, you got to check it out. So this"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "is this So this is the next trunch of"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "air mobility."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "This actually happening right now."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "Oh [ __ ] Yeah, like this. Yes, 100%."}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "Where? So we have we're testing them"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "around the country, but you know there's"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "a there's a a big test facility down in"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "um down in Texas. So what'll happen is"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "um again Joby Beta we got a number of I"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "mean big investments have gone into um"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "into these um into these evol"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "there there's different ranges on these"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "right they can go 30 miles some 100"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "miles but if you think of DC you'll be"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "able to go from downtown DC if they let"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "you fly in downtown DC or I could even"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "say from Reagan airport out to Dallas"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "it's the cost of a Uber black and they"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "are is this and you can put five people"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "in them. They're all all different"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "models"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "and come right down and so you need a"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "pilot in them now. Um eventually those"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "will be autonomous as well."}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "You need a pilot in them now."}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "Right now we have not certified them."}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "They're going through the certification"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "process now. We'll start off with"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "pilots. I think they'll be autonomous at"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "one Are you able to call um one of these"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "uh Uber uh human drones? They come down,"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "we'll pick you up and take you um"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "40 miles, 30 m um and do it quick."}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "And so when I talked about the airspace"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "and modernization,"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "we have more planes in the airspace"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "right now. This is going to make it just"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "that much more complicated. There's"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "going to be more users of the airspace."}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "Um and then you throw drones in as well."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "Um it's very very complicated. And by"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "the way, the US has the the um the most"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "complicated airspace in the world. We"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "have more planes than any like no one"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "has what we have more complicated, more"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "complex, more airplanes. We're going to"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "have even we're going to add into that"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "which is why we need to make sure we"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "have this system,"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "brand new, and we need state-of-the-art"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "technology running it so we can get more"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "efficient, not deploy more assets into"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "the airspace and then have more delays."}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "Yeah. Hey, you know, I was going I mean,"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "I was going to ask that. I mean, the the"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "autonomous stuff. I mean, that's I mean,"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "we're now making fighter jets that are"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "outperforming world class fighter pilots"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "autonomously."}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "And so then, you know, when I hear that,"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "I mean, I just had um Brandon Sang on"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "from Shield AI who just did the, you"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "know, big unveiling of the XBAT."}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "I mean, when you see stuff like that"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "come out, it's it's like, oh man, like"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "commercial pilots"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "done. Done. We have something that's"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "going to outperform an F-22, but we're"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "not autonomously doing commercial"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "airlines yet. That's I mean, it's done,"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "right? It's done. No."}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "And then when you when you're talking"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "about all these drones and all the I"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "mean, I'm just thinking, all right, what"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "is the sky going to look like when"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "nobody's going to Walgreens, nobody's"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "going to Walmart, nobody's going to the"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "grocery store, nobody and everything is"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "being delivered by drones. I mean, you"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "already see all the Amazon"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "delivery vehicles and UPS and FedEx and"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "they're everywhere. And so, what's the"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "sky look like when deliveries become"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "fully autonomous? And then you're going"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "to have to have to deconlict all the"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "commercial and private airlines from all"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "those drones. And so if you don't make"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "those autonomous, then we're going to"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "have"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "a lot of human error, a lot more human"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "air than we have right now because the"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "skies are going to be more crowded. So I"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "would think it's just a matter of time"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "before all commercial"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "anything that leaves the ground is"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "autonomous."}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "So I think as you as you have more"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "acceptance for autonomous vehicles which"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "probably make people feel that that's"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "that's one threshold the autonomous um"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "Evatolls these Ubers in the air um I"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "don't know that people are going to want"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "to get on a jetliner and have it"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "autonomous. I just I that maybe one day"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "I think that's the last trunch. I think"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "people want to have a pilot on their"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "airplane."}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "I do. Oh I know. I do. Um I want a"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "pilot. I' I'd the the evol Yeah. I'd"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "probably do that with autonomous, but on"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "on the jet, I want a pilot. Now it's all"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "becoming far more um automated and"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "there's far more technology. You know,"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "you you can you"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "I don't know, man. Then we had all that"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "DAI [ __ ] We got all these people that"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "are being pilots that should never have"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "been a [ __ ] pilot."}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "Well, I might I might lean towards the"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "autonom autonomous version to be honest"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "with you, but"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "uh yeah, but we you mentioned the"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "fighter jet stuff. I mean, it was like I"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "I read an article about how the the uh"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "autonomous fighter jet versus the the"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "ACE American pilots, they'll take risks"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "that the pilot won't, right? They'll do"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "[ __ ] that no pilot would do, taking"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "risks that no pilot would take, which"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "makes them that much that much better in"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "the airspace, which truly is is wild."}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "And and again, if this is your space,"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "but you think about about the future of"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "of war fighting and how is I mean the"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "revolution that's going to happen on how"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "battles are fought um is it's the"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "everything is everything is going to"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "change and even I mentioned drones. So"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "drones have amazing commercial"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "um uh benefits um to America, but on the"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "flip side, there's a substantial"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "national security risk to drones, right?"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "And so how do you marry those two things"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "together? How do we let the commercial"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "side uh evolve, but also share the"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "concern for these are actually very"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "dangerous tools that can be used um to"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "harm the country? And we we're working"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "through that right now. And there's"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "there's good debates that happen and we"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "have to have the technology here, but we"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "have to be smart about how we do it. And"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "you have government all working together"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "to to figure out what that balance is."}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "No matter where you're watching Shawn"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "Ryan Show from, if you get anything out"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "of this, please like, comment,"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "subscribe, and most importantly, share"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "this everywhere you possibly can. And if"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "you're feeling extra generous, please"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "leave us a review on Apple and Spotify"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "podcasts."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "We just saw that poor Ukrainian girl get"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "stabbed in the neck several times."}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "Nobody helped her. She bleeds out. I"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "mean, it's it's what does that fall"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "under you? Does public transportation"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "safety fall under"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "So the so the or the Daniel Penny uh"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "Daniel Penny"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "in in New York?"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "So um so just if you take a step back,"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "you're a liberal, right? And you're a"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "liberal who doesn't like cars. Cars emit"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "carbon. Carbon is climate change, right?"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "So, like I want everybody on public"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "transportation. Like that's that's what"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "they want."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "I think it's more about control as well,"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "but they want everyone or more people on"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "public transportation."}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "And so, if you're a liberal and you had"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "any common sense, you'd say, \"Well, if I"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "want more people to ride on public"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "transportation, I should make it really"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "safe. I should make it really clean. I"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "should make it beautiful. It should be"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "the greatest experience.\" So Shawn Ryan"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "and his family, if they have public"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "transportation, they actually want to"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "take it because they're going to get to"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "where they're going much faster."}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "It's going to it's going to be much"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "quicker. They're not going to get stuck"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "in traffic. So they want to take public"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "transportation. Or Sean would say, I"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "feel really comfortable actually sending"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "my wife and my two kids on a train into"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "the city because I know they're going to"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "be safe. I know that their lives are not"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "in danger. I feel comfortable sending"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "them. But that's not the story of"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "American public transit. New York, I"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "mean, what what what these cities have"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "done is they've they've allowed the"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "criminal element to converge down in"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "into the subways and on public"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "transportation. And so you get repeat"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "offenders, you get violent, mentally"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "ill, people who are on this system"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "riding with the very good people who"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "paid for it, and it's not safe. And so"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "people don't want to ride it. Um, and I"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "I would I I'm fighting with liberal"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "cities trying to tell them, listen, if"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "you don't make your system safe, we're"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "not going to fund you, right? If you"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "don't clean it up, we're not going to"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "fund you. And I get resistance over"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "Like that that's actually really good"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "politics is make your trains clean and"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "safe and everyone's going to want to"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "ride them. Everyone's going to love you"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "as a politician. Why in the hell am I"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "sitting in DC telling you to make your"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "your train system safe? One of the"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "biggest complaints I get is from riders"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "on whether it's in Chicago or in New"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "York or in Boston complaining about how"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "unsafe the system is and there's fair"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "jumpers and you know it's it's riddled"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "with criminals"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "that that that should not be the"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "American story. And so we are we are"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "working. Again, I I'm the way I spend my"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "money under from from Joe Biden and the"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "requirements make it a little more"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "challenging, but I can pull money. But"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "there I don't run them. The the local"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "communities run them. But with the new"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "money that's going to go out under this"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "administration, there's going to be"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "requirements, stricter requirements on"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "how they need to provide safety to their"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "citizens and their riders. But this is"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "the that we have to have this"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "conversation is idiotic. We have we have"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "uh trains in Philadelphia. They're"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "starting on fire. Buses that start on"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "fire. Um we have to look at do we do we"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "take them out of service? Um do we shut"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "down the whole system? Do I put 15,000"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "more people on the road because they"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "can't figure out how to run a safe"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "system? Um it's a failure of liberal"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "policies in liberal cities um that we"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "see um in just one microcosm of of"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "public transportation. Um, and I think"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "these these mayors would be heroes if"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "they would just pay some attention to"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "making these systems safer and better."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "So, how does it work then? I mean, if if"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "you're funding them,"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "who who can you just break down the"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "funding how it works? I mean, if you're"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "funding them, couldn't you"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "also just fund"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "security for them as well, or did they"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "how does it work? So, so on on the on"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "the federal system, I have on on Amtrak,"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "we have federal officers that work for"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "us on"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "Amtrak,"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "but but these systems like New York's"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "subway system, bus system is the MTA."}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "They provide their own security, the"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "city does to the system, right? So, they"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "they have to hire the law enforcement to"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "put them on the trains. They're the ones"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "that have to collect the tolls. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "They're the ones that that have to"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "develop, you know, do we want to do an"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "expansion? When do we need new cars? Um"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "and so, uh and they they'll come to us"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "and say, \"Well, we we we want this much"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "money to do this project or um you know,"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "we want we want our share, by the way,"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "of the I told you the gas tax, a portion"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "of the gas tax actually goes to public"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "transportation, the trust fund for roads"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "and bridges of the gas tax, which the"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "money should go to. we don't have enough"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "money. The question becomes, why are we"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "sending this to public transit? Maybe we"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "should put this all on roads, uh, as"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "opposed to carving off, you know, 20% to"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "go to public transit. That's a different"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "conversation. But, um, so I look at the"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "money that we do give them and I'm I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "I'm willing to have conversations to"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "drive public safety and if not, I"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "threaten them with withholding the cash."}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "And they've improved, but they have to"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "they have to get better. It's also local"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "money, uh, so city money, it's state"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "money, and it's our money, but our money"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "is a big part of it. But they're they're"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "in charge of running their system. We'll"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "do oversight, right? We do safety"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "inspections. Um, and we also help fund"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "and that's how that's a leverage point"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "that we can use. Does that make sense?"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "What is the push back from? How what do"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "they even say? Would you Hey, somebody"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "just got stabbed to death on your public"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "transit system. Could you make it a"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "little safer? I mean, the the entire"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "world just saw this"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "young blonde Ukrainian girl get stabbed"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "in the neck. Could you clean it up a"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "little bit? I mean, how how the do"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "you how do they how do they push back"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "against that?"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "That's that that response has been"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "different, right? They've they've"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "actually just because they had no cash"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "bail. Um they've they've changed their"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "their their they've changed the law um"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "to now be able to keep some of these"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "violent offenders behind bars when they"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "have pending crimes instead of letting"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "them out. So this is this is directly"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "tied into the criminal justice system"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "and the and the liberal idea that you"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "know we don't want to incarcerate"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "people. we want to let everybody out."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "Um, no bail and they're back on the"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "streets, back in the subways"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "recommitting crimes. You've seen with"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "President Trump in DC by bringing in the"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "National Guard. There's just a small"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "cohort of people that create all the"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "problems. You take them off the street,"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "you take their guns off the street and"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "lo and behold, the city becomes a much"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "safer place. So, law enforcement"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "actually works. But it's been this"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "liberal idea of no cash bail, soft on"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "crime prosecutors that have driven more"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "of the problems in the subway system."}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "And again, the subway system is not"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "meant for the mentally ill. That's not"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "that's that's not their home. That's not"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "their shelter. The cities have to figure"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "out something else to do with to with"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "the with with the mentally ill. How do I"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "treat them? How do I house them? But"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "it's the subway system is not a place"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "for the homeless or for the mentally"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "ill. Um, and liberals have a hard time"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "wrapping their head around that. So, um,"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "they complain. They they'll tell me"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "they're safe. They tell me that, you"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "know, I'm crazy. But again, there's"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "story after story of violent crimes on"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "these systems. And the answer is really"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "easy. Again, prosecute criminals, put"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "criminals behind bars, stop the fair"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "jumping, kick out the homeless."}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "I mean, this it's not these are not comp"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "we don't need this. The solution is not"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "complicated. It's very, very easy. It's"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "just that their their liberal ideology"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "won't let them do it. Um, and then that"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "becomes that becomes the problem."}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "Man, no matter where you're watching"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "Sean Ryan show from, if you get anything"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "out of this, please like, comment,"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "subscribe, and most importantly, share"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "this everywhere you possibly can. And if"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "you're feeling extra generous, please"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "leave us a review on Apple and Spotify"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "podcasts."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "How did this ranch ever even wind up on"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "your radar? It's an unlikely story. I"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "was skeptical but willing to listen."}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "Were simultaneously advising an elusive"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "billionaire out of Las Vegas named"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "Robert Bigalow, asking if I would be"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "interested in having a discussion and"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "meeting regarding a ranch in"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "northeastern Utah known as Skinwalker"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "Ranch. You didn't have any idea how much"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "activity was actually happening there."}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "The ranch was part of a Pentagon funded"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "black budget program. I found Skinwalker"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "Ranch from a buddy of mine that I used"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "to work with at CIA. He passed me the"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "program and and I dove in and I was just"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "I've been infatuated with it ever since."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "And there's just there's so much going"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "on there. You have cattle mutilations,"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "you have radiation spikes, you have more"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "UAP UFO activity than than anywhere else"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "I've ever heard of."}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "Yeah. you have all these these weird"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "injuries happening to people that out"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "there. I mean, how did this how did this"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "branch ever even wind up on your radar?"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "Well, it's an unlikely story. Uh, but"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "about 13 years ago, I was funding an"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "advanced physics effort. Uh we had"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "actually transformed a a large"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "percentage of our of our hangar facility"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "of our family's aviation"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "uh management and hangar facility at the"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "Provo airport into an engineering lab"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "testing physics theories dealing with"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "gravitational physics. Uh it was an"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "interesting effort was something I did"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "not publicize and we ultimately using"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "scientific rigor and discipline"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "disproved"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "the uh the core claims and the theories"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "that were being advanced. But through"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "that effort"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "what hold on what got you interested in"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "that?"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "Yeah, it was a former client. So, I had"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "a a client that I represented back in"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "the mid 90s that was a a genius software"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "development executive that ended up"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "forming a a company that became the"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "world's leading internet consulting"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "firm. And he he left that firm"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "ultimately uh to fund efforts relative"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "to the UFO phenomena. uh had claimed"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "that he had his own experience, had been"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "visited. I found it all to be quite"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "unbelievable, but I could not uh deny"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "his success in business. I'd had the"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "privilege of negotiating his first"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "headquarters transaction and uh and and"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "working with him at a young age. And"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "when when uh reconnecting with him in"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "late 2009 going into 2010,"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "uh he claimed that he'd spent tens of"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "millions of dollars focused on really"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "discovering the the technology or the"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "principle of action that would enable"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "uh gravity, you know, anti-gravity and"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "overun energy. I was I was skeptical."}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "uh but willing to to listen. He he was"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "he was a very um celebrated respected uh"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "tech mogul in his 20s in the in the '9s."}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "I mean he sold his first company to"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "Noville"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "uh as a teenager"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "and uh as I'd mentioned he he he'd built"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "the the world's largest internet"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "consulting firm."}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "Wow. uh that I had the privilege of of"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "advising and working with. So"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "hearing his claims, I was intrigued. I"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "was willing to invest"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "uh even willing to to devote some of our"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "facilities and resources to to the"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "effort. Well, it ended up becoming a"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "very challenging endeavor. But through"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "that experience, I developed"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "relationships with"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "a team of science adviserss"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "that unbeknownst to me were"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "simultaneously advising an elusive"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "billionaire out of Las Vegas named"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "Robert Bigalow of Bigalow Aerospace who"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "as a as a real estate developer"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "uh and entrepreneur was was a kindred"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "spirit of sorts. And so it following the"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "closure of that research project back in"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "2013,"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "uh I was surprised to receive a call"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "from the two senior science adviserss"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "that had had been on our board uh with"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "the question uh as you know asking if I"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "would be interested in having a a"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "discussion a meeting with Mr. in Bigalow"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "regarding a ranch in northeastern Utah"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "known as Skinwalker Ranch. They asked me"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "if I'd heard of this place. I told them,"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "\"Yeah, I I was familiar with a book that"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "had been published, you know, back in"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "the mid 2000s called Hunt for the"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "Skinwalker.\" Uh, I chuckled and told"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "them I I didn't know that there was any"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "truth to it, but I remember it being a"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "uh an entertaining read at the time. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "but I told them I said, \"You know that"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "I'm a skeptic. I've never seen a UFO, a"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "ghost orb. You're also aware that I just"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "concluded funding a project where we"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "by using scientific rigor and discipline"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "debunked the core claims. And I'm really"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "not interested in in, you know, these"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "these French topics.\" and I I happen to"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "believe that there's most likely a"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "natural prosaic explanation for the"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "claims that are being made. Well, they"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "they proceeded to say, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "Brandon,"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "there's a lot more going on than meets"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "the eye. and you as a as a real estate"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "mogul and adviser"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "in the inner mountain west, you know,"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "uh, seemed to be a potential fit to"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "joint venture or at least have a"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "discussion with Mr. Bigalow. And I I"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "agreed. I I I jumped at the chance to at"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "least have a meeting, to have a"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "discussion. Flew down to Las Vegas and"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "found myself at Mr. Bigalow's uh Bigalow"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "Aerospace Compound, which is the closest"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "thing to a James Bond villain lair that"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "I've ever seen. I mean, it's a it's an"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "incredible facility. I mean, huge"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "buildings that house full-size space"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "stations and space habitats that have"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "been designed where they're they're"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "they're doing the materials science and"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "the life safety uh testing and uh and"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "engineering to to really position"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "Bigalow Aerospace, at least at the time,"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "to be the real estate development"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "company of space."}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "And uh Mr. Bigalow uh had an interest in"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "in potentially selling the the Utah"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "property. He had expressed uh he had"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "expressed not only willingness to"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "consider the sale but the the fact that"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "he was very busy and occupied with uh"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "you know negotiating deals with SpaceX"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "and NASA and others uh you know playing"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "a key role in the private space race."}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "Uh, we we had a great visit and I think"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "developed a good relationship. I I told"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "him that I was a skeptic, that I'd never"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "seen a UFO or a ghost or orb or anything"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "of the sort and that I would be bringing"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "in my own team. I also asked him for any"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "of the data. Uh, and he said, \"Well, I'm"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "selling the property on an ASIS basis."}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "I'm not willing to turn over any data.\""}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "not only because the ranch was part of a"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "Pentagon-f funded black budget program"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "between"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "2007 and 2013, but he he went on to say"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "that he felt, you know, he wanted to"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "keep that that private. And I agreed. At"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "the end of the day, I felt that starting"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "with a clean slate would would help me"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "establish a baseline and most likely"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "help me even better establish that there"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "was a natural explanation for the"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "reports."}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "You wanted a clean slate. You didn't"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "want the the previous data or research."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "No, I didn't push. I I asked"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "respectfully and and I respected his his"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "response and his request. Did he"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "So was it was it was he unable to pass"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "the the research and the data because it"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "was a black budget program or or did he"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "just he just wasn't willing to share?"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "Yeah, I think I think it was both."}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "Time doesn't slow down and really you"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "shouldn't either. We all sit around and"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "say, \"Oh, I'll get to that later.\" But"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "some things shouldn't wait. like"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "protecting your family's financial"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "future. Fabric by Gerber Life is term"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "life insurance you can get done today."}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "It's made for busy parents like you. All"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "online on your schedule right from your"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "couch. You could be covered in under 10"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "minutes with no health exam required."}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "Fabric has flexible, highquality"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "policies that fit your family and your"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "budget. Like a million dollars in"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "coverage for less than a dollar a day."}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "If you have kids, and especially if"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "you're young and healthy, the time to"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "lock in low rates is now. Join the"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "thousands of parents who trust Fabric to"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "help protect their family. Apply today"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "in just minutes at"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "meetfabric.com/srclip."}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "That's meetfabric.com/srclip."}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "Meet fabric.comsrips."}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "Policies issued by Western Southern Life"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "Insurance Company, not available in"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "certain states. prices subject to"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "underwriting and health questions."}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "Did he want you to continue the research"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "at the ranch?"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "Uh, I think he saw he saw in me a worthy"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "successor as someone who would at least"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "be the appropriate owner taking it"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "forward given my real estate background,"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "proximity to the ranch. You know, I I"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "live about 2 and 1/2 hours away. It's"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "only about a 45minute flight via"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "helicopter."}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "Uh and and he had heard positive things"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "about me from his science adviserss. his"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "science adviserss had um had told him"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "that I had managed the the project that"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "we had shared in common uh with"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "professionalism"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "and I think that uh that meant something"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "to him. He was not putting the property"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "up on the market for sale. I mean the"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "property was never offered or marketed"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "for sale. This was a very private"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "transaction, private dialogue and and I"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "told him that I would acquire the"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "property uh so long as my identity would"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "be kept confidential."}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "And I worked with my legal counsel to"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "structure the entities that would shield"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "my identity. In fact, my name wasn't"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "wasn't on any of the paperwork by"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "design. I had registered agents that uh"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "that managed that process and truly"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "wanted to stay below the radar"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "and not have my identity associated with"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "the ranch in any way."}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "What What year was this?"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "2016. So, I closed closed on the"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "property the first week in April 2016"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "and proceeded to bring in my own team"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "and assess really whether there there"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "was any reality to the claims that were"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "being made. At the time I was on the the"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "board of the National Parks Council, the"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "Boy Scouts of America, and uh honestly"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "was intending to donate it uh to the Boy"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "Scouts and the Girl Scouts for a for a"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "potential site that you were where that"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "those experiences that could be had"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "because I didn't think that there was"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "anything truly unusual. I felt like, you"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "know, my investigation and and research"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "would ultimately confirm that there was"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "nothing there was nothing paranormal or"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "disturbing about this incredible piece"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "of property. And so when I flew in and"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "saw the property for the first time, I"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "was"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "shocked at how beautiful"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "how strikingly beautiful the landscape"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "was. as the helicopter came in and I was"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "looking over at my brother who was"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "piloting and looking back at Jim Morse"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "who I was recruiting to come in and be"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "really the face of the property at the"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "time and be the ranch manager and the"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "community liaison. I was taken aback by"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "how beautiful the property was and the"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "diversity of the landscape. Here you"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "have this red rock mesa that runs the"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "entire expanse of the property from east"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "to west. You have waterways that biseect"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "the property. You have these old pioneer"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "homesteads that are still standing uh"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "that uh that that provide a very unique"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "interesting backdrop and uh and it is a"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "a working uh ranch. I mean, there has"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "been cattle brought on and off the"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "property periodically, and I've I've"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "maintained that use through my"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "stewardship over the course of the last,"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "you know, seven plus years as well. And"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "so, when I flew into the property, I was"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "just shocked at how how beautiful it"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "was. You could shoot any number of"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "Hollywood films of John Wayne westerns"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "on this property or even Westworld which"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "is uh you know a favorite of mine. Uh"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "it's it's that diverse and that"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "strikingly uh unique. And I proceeded to"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "to engage professionals to bring in a"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "superintendent within days, Thomas"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "Winterton, who helped assess the"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "physical facilities and what we needed"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "to do in order to install certain"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "things. And we had caretakers at the"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "time. I had a uh a a"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "uh professional an ex Marine who uh was"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "a drone expert that was tasked with not"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "only conducting drone surveillance of"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "the property but also developing a"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "historical record of the landscape to"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "better understand every inch of this 512"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "acre uh assemblage."}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "How? So when you"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "when you took over when you took"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "possession of Skinwalker Ranch, you"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "really had you didn't have any idea how"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "much activity was actually happening"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "No."}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "On top of that, you were you were a"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "skeptic. You had mentioned last night"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "that you had purchased Skimwalker Ranch"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "to basically debunk the entire"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "UFO UAP topic. So,"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "what I'm curious about is how do you how"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "does somebody that has been conducting"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "experiments with the US government on a"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "black budget program who very much"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "believes in all of these phenomenons"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "that are happening?"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "How do you determine the value when"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "you're selling to a skeptic who wants to"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "acquire it to debunk the ent the entire"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "operation? Yeah, it's it's a it's a"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "negotiation. It's subjective. But I"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "think Mr. Bigalow knew that I would that"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "I was respectful. He knew that I would"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "handle the property with care, with"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "respect. I think that he he respected"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "my desire for anonymity, for privacy."}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "Uh, I I didn't tell my family."}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "My, you know, my family, my closest"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "business partners were purposely out of"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "the loop and unaware of my acquisition"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "and this new venture"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "uh, by design."}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "So, it was it was an interesting launch"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "to to the the saga that continues to"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "unfold with Skinwalker Ranch. Uh, in the"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "first several months, we dealt with"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "primarily challenges dealing with"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "dilapidated infrastructure. We had a a"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "septic system that wasn't working, that"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "was backed up. I found quickly we didn't"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "have adequate power infrastructure to to"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "be able to to secure the property. We we"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "had no fiber optic connectivity uh to be"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "able to to effectively conduct a more"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "advanced investigation. And so the the"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "first several months I coordinated with,"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "you know, Thomas Winterton and Jim"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "Morris and my caretakers"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "and other advisers to to address the"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "infrastructure issues of this property."}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "It was very very run down. There was no"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "command center. There was no technology."}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "The reports that Mr. Bigalow"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "uh received on a weekly basis were were"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "sent via fax. There was a fax machine in"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "2016."}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "There was a fax machine that was the"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "primary"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "technology used for disseminating"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "reports relative to activity at the"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "ranch, believe it or not. And uh"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "uh I was I was surprised to find that uh"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "that the ranch was was in that state. I"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "I was also surprised"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "to find that on the perimeter fence line"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "there were animal body parts. There were"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "there were animal bladders hanging from"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "the fence line. When I was first shown"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "the property uh by exiting Bigalow"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "security and I asked the security, I"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "said, \"What what is the nature of what"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "the hell is that? what why why are those"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "things hanging from the fence line"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "perimeter of the property? and and the"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "security at the time looked at me"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "with a straight face and said, \"Look,"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "the Native American neighbors"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "that surround this property,"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "place these animal bladders on the fence"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "line and bless them to keep the demonic"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "spirits and entities inside this"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "property and off of their property.\""}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "And I I quickly learned that the tribal"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "leaders"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "in the Uenta basin and surrounding the"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "property had been telling their people"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "not to even look the way of the ranch."}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "That they were they were told don't even"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "look the way of the property or else you"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "may have"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "demonic forces,"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "entities that would follow you."}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "and uh"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "and that's something that is that has"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "been discussed and documented"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "uh but is is a is an interesting part of"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "the history. So I I was very surprised"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "when first inspecting the property and"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "visiting the property at what I found."}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "Um, after a couple of months, my"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "surveyor uh contacted me one day with uh"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "with a report that he just captured the"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "image of a UFO. It was right about noon"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "in uh June of 2016. And I said, \"Really?"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "Are you sure?\" And he said, \"Yeah, I I I"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "have I have it on my my camera.\" And I"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "told him, \"Will you stop everything"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "right now?"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "Don't talk to anyone else. Drive"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "straight to my office because I want the"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "metadata. I want to download that"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "picture"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "without it being corrupted, without it"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "being compromised. I want it directly on"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "my graphic director's computer to be"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "analyzed if if you really believe that"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "you've captured something. And so he he"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "did. He drove 2 and 1/2 hours straight"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "to my office in Salt Lake City and"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "downloaded that image right there in"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "front of me, you know, with my graphics"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "director. We still have the metadata and"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "it was an interesting image. In fact, uh"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "it reminded me of the Millennium Falcon"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "from Star Wars fame"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "really."}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "Um and uh and it was it was interesting."}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "I checked uh the the flight records to"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "see if there was any any activity, any"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "commercial or private uh air traffic"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "that would match up with that in the"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "basin during that time uh that that"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "again corresponded to that metadata and"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "there was none. And it was uh it was"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "intriguing. Was I convinced that there"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "were that the the UFO phenomena was was"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "real? you know, that there was some"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "extraordinary,"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "you know,"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "you know, cause or origin to this. No,"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "but I was intrigued. Several weeks"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "later, I get another call. Brandon,"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "I've got another image. We myself and"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "the caretakers just saw a glowing object"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "appear right outside of Homestead 1 or"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "right outside of the ranch house. and"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "I've got the images and I I I need to"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "show you this. And I I told him, \"Drive"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "straight to my office.\" Um, please get"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "here as fast as you can. And sure"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "enough, it it was an intriguing image."}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "We had the metadata. It was very"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "different than the"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "UFO that was captured weeks before."}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "How so?"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "Uh, it it had a different shape,"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "different characteristics. Do you still"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "have these images?"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "I'll share those with you. You bet."}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "I'll put them up on screen."}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "You bet. Um and and those those created"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "some interest. I still was unconvinced."}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "I mean, we have the Utah test and"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "training range out west of Hill Air"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "Force Base. I mean, I've I've worked u"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "as the the commercial real estate"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "advisor to Falcon Hill and that"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "aerospace research park, and I'm aware"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "that that there are programs that that"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "that are out there, and there are tests"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "being conducted that uh could very well"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "be potentially connected with some of"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "the the uni unidentified"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "aerial phenomena that uh that have been"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "reported. So, I I remained curious but"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "unconvinced."}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "And then in October of 2016,"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "I received a call from one of my"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "adviserss saying that a certain"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "individual, a prominent doctor out of"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "Las Vegas,"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "who had been working on Area 51, had"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "been a consulting physician, Terry 51,"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "had as his number one request, his"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "number one wish on his life bucket list"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "to visit Skinwalker Ranch. No matter"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "where you're watching Shawn Ryan Show"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "from, if you get anything out of this,"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "please like, comment, subscribe, and"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "most importantly, share this everywhere"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "you possibly can. And if you're feeling"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "extra generous, please leave us a review"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "on Apple and Spotify podcasts."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Why haven't we been to the [ __ ] moon?"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "Well, we have been."}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "Why haven't we been back to the moon in"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "how long?"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "It'll be 54 years."}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "54 years. We just went we're like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "we don't need to explore that anymore.\""}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "I think that there was there was"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "we've been there box checked."}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "Yeah, it was expensive. It was expensive"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "to go to the moon and then it was also"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "um we done it and there was more focus"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "on lower earth orbit, right? We wanted"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "to evolve that technology."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "Mh."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "Um and and so again, the Chinese want to"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "go to the moon. So at the south pole of"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "the moon, there's ice and ice means"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "oxygen. Ice means water, ice means life,"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "right? So you have I mean that's the"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "that's a key component."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "And um the Chinese are trying to get"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "there. We want to beat them back to the"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "moon. And again, we're not going to go"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "with our 1970s landers. It's going to be"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "a lot bigger, bolder missions. But"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "what's important is um what we learn in"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "the mission to the moon and how we do it"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "on the moon and how we have sustained"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "human life on the moon. How we have a"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "base on the moon. What we learn there is"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "going to help us get to Mars and and"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "beyond. That is the that is the way"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "station the the the stepping stone to to"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "go out and and and and explore other uh"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "other places in the universe. And so I"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "think we were the organization wasn't"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "focused. Um the last administration"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "hadn't they were trying to pivot NASA"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "into from human space exploration which"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "is by the way NASA is the only one that"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "does human space exploration. No other"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "agency does that right. They were trying"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "to turn it into a a climate change DEI"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "um organization. I just actually I"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "brought you a book."}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "Um oh boy. So, this is this is what they"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "spent a couple million dollars on a"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "number of different comic books. So,"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "this is one that is the first uh woman"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "uh in space and but no problem with the"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "first woman in space, but it's it's a"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "it's a it's a book that is full of"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "DEI in gender"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "crap as opposed to saying I I don't care"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "what your color is. I don't care what"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "your gender is. I want the best"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "astronauts"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "on these missions. That's what I want."}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "And millions of dollars was spent on on"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "books like this at NASA."}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "Millions of dollars"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "as opposed to thinking of millions of"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "dollars to invest in science and"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "technology that's going to get us uh to"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "the moon before uh the Chinese. And so"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "what we've what we've had is again you"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "got to think so think about this. So 10"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "years ago,"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "I don't think anyone would have"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "envisioned that we would have a space"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "economy like we have right now. And"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "SpaceX and Elon Musk revolutionized kind"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "of how we think about commercial space."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "Um, I don't know how much it used to"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "cost to get a satellite satellite into"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "space, but it was really expensive. What"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "SpaceX has done is brought the cost"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "down. I mean, for a small satellite, I"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "think it's going to cost you $300,000."}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "for a little bigger one. It's going to"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "cost you a million dollars, but people"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "can get companies can get satellites"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "into space way cheaper than ever before."}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "But no one would have thought about the"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "space economy but for this evolution um"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "in uh in rocket rocket technology,"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "Elon's ability to reuse rockets um all"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "fantastic, right? And so right now it's"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "a $600 billion business. We'll be at a"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "trillion dollars in in short order. It's"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "the fastest growing part of the US"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "economy actually is this part of it. And"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "it's really important for uh our"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "national security side of the aisle."}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "Were we're civil, but there's a national"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "security component to it as well. But on"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "the flip side, uh there's there's so I"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "told you we're going back to the moon um"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "in early February. First time in 54"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "years. Uh it's called"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "early February is in"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "like couple of months."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "Yep."}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "Four months."}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "Four months. Do do you know what the"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "mission's called?"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "No."}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "Exactly. Do you know what Apollo is?"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "What Apollo was? The Apollo missions?"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "What do you mean?"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "So NASA's Apollo mission brought us that"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "was our that was our mission to the"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "moon, right? Everyone around the world"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "knew what it was. Everyone knew NASA."}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "Everyone knew what we were what we were"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "about at NASA and the Apollo missions to"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "the moon. Everyone knew the the the"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "space shuttles, right? The the the"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "shuttle missions. Everyone knew what we"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "did. And we are about to send first time"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "in 54 years Artemis 2 back to the moon."}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "And I bet you 97%"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "of Americans have no idea that we're"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "doing it and no idea what it is. It's a"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "huge problem. So NASA lives off the"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "fumes of what they did in the past."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "They're not living off what we're doing"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "in the future. What's the vision for the"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "future of NASA? What are the future"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "missions? Where are we going?"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "Wait. So we're going back to the moon in"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "4 months in February. We're not going to"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "land. We're going out and around the"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "moon and coming back."}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "Why are we What's that?"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "What are we going to learn from that?"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "Um, so we're testing the technology,"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "right? We You want to take things in"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "steps."}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "Mhm."}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "Right. You just don't want to do"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "everything in one step. You want to You"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "want to go through a stepping stone"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "process. And this is we're going to go"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "back, right? Out and around. Come back."}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "Well, we did take a step 54 years ago."}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "We did."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "But there's a but there's a reason to"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "there there is a reason to go back. Um"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "No, I'm I'm with you."}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "Shouldn't the next step be a little bit"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "bigger than the first?"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "Oh, it will. So, we're going to stay"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "this time, right? That's that that is"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "the that is the key component."}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "And so, um we're going to we we gave a"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "directive for uh uh uh surface vision"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "technology, right? So, we can have power"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "on the surface of the moon. We think we"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "can get that done by 2030. And you can"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "have sustained human life missions"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "bringing products um equipment to the"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "moon surface. They don't those don't"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "have to be manned. But um yeah, it's"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "it's going to be cool. We have there's"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "helium 3 on the moon, an amazing power"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "source if you bring some of that back to"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "the back to Earth."}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "So that's 100% true. There's helium"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "helium."}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "We've had we've had conflicting reports"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "on that. We've heard that China"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "is mining helium 3 off the moon."}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "actually right now"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "I don't I don't know about that but I"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "think we want access to this remarkable"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "power source."}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "Mhm."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "Right. Um so again that's just one"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "that's just one component of um of what"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "you might get from the moon. I you don't"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "know this better than I do. There was a"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "time that uh I don't know who said this"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "but he who controls the seas controls"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "the world."}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "There was a time that that was I think"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "he who controls space controls the"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "world. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "And I think part of that is the moon"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "component. Um, and making sure that"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "we're the ones that are there and we"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "come we we do things differently, right?"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "We have all of these international"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "partners that are working with us that"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "believe in transparency and openness"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "about what we're doing and how we're"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "doing it. Chinese have a very different"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "model. There's no separation between the"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "civil and military sides of their space."}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "Um, and again, do we want to seed I"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "don't know if with in your military"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "experience, should we seed the moon to"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "the Chinese? And are there any national"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "security risks to that? Um, do I want to"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "find out? I don't really"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "want to find that out. But, um, but the"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "but the point is we're late. We're"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "delayed in our mission to the moon. And"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "so, what I've said is we're going to"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "we're going to open this up and let"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "different companies compete to see who"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "can get us there first. Right. I want to"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "get there. um before the Chinese, number"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "one, and I want to get there before"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "President Trump leaves office. That's"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "what President Trump wants as well. He's"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "given that directive. And so, um when"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "you have companies compete, America"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "wins. Um I got two really rich guys that"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "have space companies that want to"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "compete against each other. And when"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "they do, there's going to be great"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "evolution in technology and a great"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "race, not just against China, but"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "against American companies to see who's"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "going to get the honor of doing it first"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "of putting American astronauts back on"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "the moon. Um, at this time, it's going"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "to be almost 60 years since the last"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "time we were there,"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "man."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "So, in February, we're going around the"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "moon. Yep."}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "Have we ever done that before?"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "Yeah, we did that. Well, we did that"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "back um in the 70s, right? We were"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "there. Uh, but this is we're going to go"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "I mean we're going with way bigger"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "equipment,"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "way more sophisticated equipment this"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "time, which means it's more complicated."}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "The complication of what we're trying to"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "do today is different than what we did"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "um in the in in the 70s just because of"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "the evolution of the technology. And so"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "it's good to it's and by the way what we"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "the technology that SpaceX is working on"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "with their vision on how we get to the"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "lunar surface with their landers is what"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "we're going to actually need to to get"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "to um to Mars. What we're doing with"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "fision technology on the on the on the"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "lunar surface and the work we're doing"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "on nuclear propulsion um is also how"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "you're going to get us to the uh to Mars"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "and and back again. So, a a lot is"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "happening, but you had this agency that"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "was a drift that wasn't really focused."}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "And I've tried and the short tenure I'm"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "going to have there is to give it focus,"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "give it a direction, um, and inspire it."}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "And part of my job, too, is I got to I"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "got to sell the missions. If America and"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "then you're like, we're going back to"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "the moon"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "in February, like what? Like, holy [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "It's like Dumb and Dumber. We landed on"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "the moon. Holy [ __ ] It's amazing. Um,"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "and that's and I think that's that's the"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "mission. I think there's opportunities"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "too to partner with one of the the"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "greatest brand in the world is NASA"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "global national brand. NASA is is is"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "premium. I think we can partner, we"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "can't take partnership money at NASA,"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "but we could partner with companies"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "um and in the partnership we get them to"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "advertise um their product, but also our"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "mission because Americans need to know"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "what we're doing, why we're doing it."}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "And when Americans know about it and"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "they care about it, then the Congress"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "cares about it and the Congress funds"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "it. Um, and again, I think I think"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "that's a really important part of of"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "what the role is, what what I've done"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "and the next administrator will have to"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "do as well is you got to sell the"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "mission. You got to sell you got to sell"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "the vision. You got to stop living off"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "the past. Let's let's inspire people for"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "the future. I want the I want the I want"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "the 8-year-old kid, you know, in"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "somewhere in Missouri to not be like,"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "\"We did this in 1970. That was great.\""}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "No. Like, I want them to go, \"This is"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "what we're doing right now.\" Like, in my"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "time, the cool [ __ ] that NASA's doing, I"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "want to do that, too. like I want to be"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "part of that. I want to give my life to"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "this, you know, to this organization,"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "this mission. I want to be an astronaut"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "myself. But that takes us talking about"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "it and talking about it passionately and"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "effectively to let America know um what"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "it is and what we're doing. No matter"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "where you're watching Shawn Ryan Show"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "from, if you get anything out of this,"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "please like, comment, subscribe, and"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "most importantly, share this everywhere"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "you possibly can. And if you're feeling"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "extra generous, please leave us a review"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "on Apple and Spotify podcasts."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "I'm a firm believer in find love, pursue"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "love, get married, have kids, you're"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "going to be more productive, you'll make"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "more money, you'll be happier. And I"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "just and I think a lot of young men now,"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "I mean, the guys that watch your show,"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "there's just been a this revolution of"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "what's happened with young men. The"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "manosphere has been really fascinating"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "to see them leaning into what is a what"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "what does it mean to be a strong male?"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "And that these young men are going back"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "to church at a higher rate than girls."}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "Now"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "it is wild, isn't it?"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "Really cool. And"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "oh holy we almost lost it."}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "we legitimately almost lost what the"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "it means to be a man."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "And and but it's come back this close"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "and it came back in full force because"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "of guys like you that go I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "talk about what it what does it mean to"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "be a man and this this group of of great"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "men that'll talk about what it means to"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "be a man. Um and it's it's it is you"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "know the chivalry. It's respecting"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "women."}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "Um these, by the way, these are very"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "Catholic ideas. We started these ideas"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "in Western civilization. Um and"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "protecting your family, protecting your"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "kids, um and faith is such a big part of"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "Where do you think the resurgence came"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "from?"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "I think it was the attack on"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "masculinity, you know, calling us toxic."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "Yeah. But how long did that go on for?"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "Too long."}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "Was it?"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "It was a slow burn. I think it was a"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "slow burn that came to a crescendo of"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "these attacks on these boys. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "when they had an outlet that would"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "actually celebrate them, would talk"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "about how great they are and how great"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "masculinity actually is, they gravitated"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "towards it and they rejected, right, the"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "you're toxic and they would gravitate to"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "the celebration"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "and that's where they leaned into, you"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "know, so many people that will talk"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "about it like you do and and others."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "And,"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "you know, I never really I don't I don't"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "really I never made it a how do I say"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "this?"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "I just lead by example,"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "I'm not telling people how to be a man."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "I'm not telling people what it means to"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "be a man. I'm not doing any of that."}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "Which is more effective than"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "I'm just"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "preaching."}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "I am just leading by example and and"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "that's it."}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "But no, there's a lot of people out"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "there that are talking about that stuff,"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "but I don't I don't do it."}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "But it's but I think it's it's all part"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "of an ecosystem of"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "who are"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "What does it mean to be a man? And"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "again, you can you can preach it, which"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "that's fine."}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "That's powerful,"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "or you can you can you can show up by"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "example."}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "We love it."}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "But either way, I think young men"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "gravitate towards it, and they should"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "because we should celebrate young men. I"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "think one of the problems today is"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "again, how does a a a great young man"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "find a decent girl to marry, right?"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "That's I think the it's harder to find a"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "a good girl. Um, maybe I'm going to get"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "in trouble for saying that, but again, I"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "think there's these young girls have"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "been sold a different story. They"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "haven't they haven't come back to um"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "what these young men have. And um yeah,"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "I hope they again, how do you how do you"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "find someone? I think that becomes far"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "more challenging. But I will say, and"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "you probably can attest to this, the"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "greatest decision you'll ever make in"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "your life, the most important decision"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "you'll make outside of am I going to"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "choose to, you know, be a person of"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "faith or not, the number one decision"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "you'll ever make that'll have the"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "greatest impact is not where you go to"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "school, not what job I pick, not where I"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "live in the country. Um, it's who do I"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "marry? Who you marry is the greatest"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "decision. And by the way, it's often"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "times a crapshoot, right? We're all we"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "all put our best foot forward as we're"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "dating and we're trying to, you know, go"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "through that process. But the most"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "important decision is who you marry."}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "What kind of person are they? Are they"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "going to again? Because marriages, we"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "anyone who's been married knows it's"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "always not sunshine and roses."}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "Marriage is a it's amazing,"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "but it's hard. Like anything, it's hard."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "It can be hard, but it's beautiful. And"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "do I have someone who's going to stick"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "with me? Do we share values? um on on"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "life's road, who am I gonna who am I"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "going to journey it with? That decision"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "is the number one most important"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "decision any young man will make or"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "young woman."}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "Man, I'm with you on that one. I think a"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "lot of people get that. I mean, it's"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "very obvious a lot of people get that"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "decision wrong. Why do you why do you"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "think they get it wrong?"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "I don't know that they get it. I think I"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "think when things can get hard the"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "there's there's a perception that it's"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "always against sunshine and roses and"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "it's actually not. It can be you you you"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "got to disagree. You're going to fight."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "You're going to you're going to have"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "issues that you have to work through."}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "And do I have a am I someone who can"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "actually be committed to the marriage"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "and work through those issues? Do I have"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "a partner who's willing to work through"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "those issues as well? Um, and if you if"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "you if you do, um, you can make it work."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "But if if you, you know, hit the release"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "valve and get out,"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "you're probably going to find the same"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "situation in the next marriage that you"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "have, are you willing to stick it out?"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "Cuz again, it's the most like I couldn't"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "my life doesn't exist without my wife. I"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "wouldn't be here without her. I wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "have all the greatest things in my life"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "without her. Um, but you know, do do we"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "have disagreement? Yeah, we have"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "disagreement, but in the end there's"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "there's and we'll and and we fight, but"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "in the end, we're not leaving each"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "other. We made a commitment to each"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "other. We are sticking together. And no"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "matter what fight we have, there's never"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "a conversation about the release valve."}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "Like this is like we got to work through"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "it, but we are in this together. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "And I think if people think about it"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "maybe differently, again, we take away"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "the roses and talk about the beauty of"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "of marriage and and the disagreement and"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "the agreement and the joy and the and"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "the fights and make it more realistic"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "and that you have to fight for your"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "marriage. I think we might have better"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "results."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "I think maybe it's the e you can take"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "you can too easily take the easy path."}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "By the way, you might have abuse, too."}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "There's also situations where you"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "probably got to get out of,"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "but many of them are are not that."}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. That's a damn good point. I"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "think a lot of people enter into"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "relationships for strictly superficial"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "reasons also,"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "which you know that never winds up"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "turning out good."}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "Doesn't matter."}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "But but how so how did you meet your"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "wife? I know how you guys met, but"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "So, uh, so I did I did a um I did I did"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "reality TV as you mentioned."}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "Yeah, that was right at the that was"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "like the beginning of reality TV, right?"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "Yeah. So, I was I was the sixth season"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "of the real world. So, real world. So,"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "this is on MTV. Um, some people might"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "know this, some people might not cuz MTV"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "has gone down the the the drain. Um, but"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "they'd pick seven people from all"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "different walks of life, all different"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "viewpoints, all different experiences"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "and they'd, you know, put them in a"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "house and make them live together and uh"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "they would just film them for, you know,"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "every every moment of every day for"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "about 6 months and then they would edit"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "that down to about 22 half hour"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "episodes. Um, and it was wildly popular."}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "Um, and I was on the I was on the the"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "the the sixth season of that. My wife"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "was on the third season. And but what's"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "interesting is if if you think about it,"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "we actually we gravitate towards and"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "build relationships with people that are"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "very much like us. Similar backgrounds,"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "similar beliefs. Um and that's who we"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "become friends with. That's who we maybe"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "want to live by. That's who we, you"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "know, will go have a drink at the bar"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "with or a cup of coffee with. People"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "like us. We don't we don't naturally go"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "out and go like I'm going to go be"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "friends with someone who is from a way"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "different walk of life and way different"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "you know viewpoints than I have. Like we"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "just that human nature is not built that"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "way. But this show made you live with"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "people who are very different uh from"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "you. And um what was actually pretty"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "cool one of the coolest experiences and"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "learning lessons for me doing the show"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "was wildly different people than me."}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "Like I'm a like I'm a lumberjack from"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "northern Wisconsin who hadn't done a lot"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "of travel. How old were you?"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "I was uh 24 25 when I did it. So I was"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "in the middle of law school. I took a"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "year off of law school when I did it. Um"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "so I was older than most when when I did"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "the show. No matter where you're"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "watching Shawn Ryan show from, if you"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "get anything out of this, please like,"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "comment, subscribe, and most"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "importantly, share this everywhere you"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "possibly can. And if you're feeling"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "extra generous, please leave us a review"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "on Apple and Spotify podcasts."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "A very important lesson I learned on"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "this deployment is never die because you"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "got bored. I got bored and then another"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "truck came up full of guys and then"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "another truck full of guys and then"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "another one. This is some serious"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "ambush. Hit that first and he said I"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "can't. We don't have any air support."}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "I'm like okay this is bad. The batteries"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "in my radio just died. I'm not carrying"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "the spares. Remember you are. They're in"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "the rucks sack that I dropped. One of"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "the guys said to me, um, this is danger"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "close. What do we What do we do if it"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "hits us? This is where you save at least"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "one bullet for yourself. Those guys will"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "skin you alive. There's a video online"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "where we f we we put these um there was"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "an al-Qaeda guy working at a gas"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "station. He was laundering money and"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "funding [ __ ] because that's one of the"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "major ways. There's only a few roads"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "obviously and um we the RRD rangers the"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "the uh and they're awesome dudes. Um"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "they went out on an an RNS and they we"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "watched this damn gas station in it for"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "5 days which just sucks like in the heat"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "and then we they know they had eyes on"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "whatever they and we rolled from the"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "safe house 30 seconds grabbed this dude"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "and rolled out with him. There's a video"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "that they made of us rolling up. We wear"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "this ridiculous [ __ ] gear. Uh I mean I"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "don't blend in. I don't know if you"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "know. You don't blend in?"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "No. We go to war with Scotland. I'm I'm"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "in there. But um we in a we roll up we"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "run in we run out. We got this dude in"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "the van takes away. They they made a"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "video if you if you could find it"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "online. It says uh a snatch and grab at"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "the grab and go and it's literally a 30"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "second mission. And that that was we"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "just rolled him out, threw them flew to"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "Bram. But we were just we were using"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "technology to track al-Qaeda and see"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "what they're doing. And mainly I mean"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "we're just rolling them up to get intel."}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "We're trying to to build the network to"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "find there's not a lot of al-Qaeda in"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "Afghanistan at this point. They all went"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "to Pakistan."}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "So not a lot. I mean a couple dudes in"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "up in the Corangal but most of them went"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "over to the uh federally administrated"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "tribal area the f and all over there on"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "that side"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "and that's another story that I have uh"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "two deployments later."}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "Let's go into it."}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "Okay. Well, I mean we did go to Iraq"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "next."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "We'll go we'll we'll jump to this and"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "then we'll go to Iraq."}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "Okay. Um so my uh next deployment to"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "Afghanistan I would instead of being a"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "member at the Jbad safe house I was in"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "charge of the Assadabad safe house. So"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "I'm the team leader there which means I"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "have one other guy um with me from from"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "red team. Uh and then we have a few"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "augments that are that are probably"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "going to screen for dev group uh but"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "aren't there yet. So they come over to"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "learn how what we're doing and then and"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "we're working with the agency. Uh"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "running sources"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "back and forth and mainly this is just"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "for"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "drone strikes so we can get intel hit"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "these guys or whatever. And uh we we"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "were getting bored. And a very important"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "lesson I learned on this deployment is"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "never die because you got bored. Do"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "everything like you do anything and"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "always follow your rules. People die"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "because they take shortcuts or they get"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "bored. I got bored and uh I came up with"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "a plan with this the chief of of base"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "who was he had actually been with the"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "agency fighting um with the mujahedin"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "against Russians. So this dude knew the"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "area and so he and I over over cocktails"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "I think the agency calls it fellowship"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "over fellowship we came up with a plan"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "that we know as per rules of engagement"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "uh if we have troops in contact and"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "positive identification on the border we"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "can pursue"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "I want to say 10 clicks inside of"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "Pakistan."}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "So, we knew there was a um about a click"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "in and a click and a half in. There were"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "two al-Qaeda safe houses. So, we figured"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "if we go up there on the border and sort"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "of show ourselves, they'll shoot at us,"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "we'll call air support, we can hit these"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "houses. That's going to be a good"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "mission. Cross border off. This is"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "badass. So, that's the plan. And"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "everything went to [ __ ] because we get"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "up there. I got a couple um a couple"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "army guys and then a few Afghans. We had"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "actually we had put on um the brown"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "tiger stripe stuff and I don't even know"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "if that's legal. So we don't look like"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "Americans. So we're trying to if the if"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "the if al-Qaeda or the Taliban sees us,"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "they're not worried about air support"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "because this is simply, you know, ANA"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "Afghan army."}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "we'll kill them. We didn't we didn't put"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "that together because that like a truck"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "came up and some dudes got out and it's"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "like it's like almost like a flash"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "checkpoint. And they walk up and they're"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "yelling us to come talk to them for tea."}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "And I was like, \"Yeah, you guys go talk"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "to him. Don't don't tell them there's"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "Americans here.\" Whatever. So, they went"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "down there and they kind of came back"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "and they said, \"Yeah, they wanted tea,"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "but we're not falling for that.\" So,"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "they went to this thing. We got the high"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "ground here. It's it's 11:30 in the"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "morning. We we we stayed overnight."}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "We're up there. It's 11:30 in the"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "morning. And then another truck came up"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "full of guys. And then another truck"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "came up full of guys. And then another"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "one."}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "Now we have a little bit of high ground,"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "but there's a lot of dudes down there."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "And this is some serious [ __ ] ambush"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "[ __ ] I'm in charge. I'm I'm I'm, you"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "know, an E6 or E7, but I'm the ground"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "force commander of this one. It's my"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "call. It's like, well, I mean,"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "we can get the [ __ ] out of here right"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "now. They they want they might not"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "notice. So I'm like, yeah, you know,"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "we're going to beat it. So, uh, we had"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "some guys below us, a semi-mortar team"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "that, but they, you know, whatever. They"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "weren't US Army. We didn't know if they"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "could do it. So, we're running down to"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "them. I'm explaining what's happening"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "and we got to haul ass or maybe we can"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "we can get uh Xfilled. And that's when"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "one of the Afghan guys I was with said"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "the the first words I ever heard him"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "speak in English. He pointed up and"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "yelled, \"Bad guys.\""}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "And I remember looking up and uh now"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "this is going to be a real gunfight in"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "the mountains at high noon and watching"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "dudes run that fast in and they had"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "brown brown [ __ ] like brown uniforms"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "almost on. So these are these are it's a"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "it turns out to be a mix of"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "uh al-Qaeda Taliban and Pacmill Pakistan"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "military."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "No [ __ ] and and and we're looking up"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "and they're they're surrounding us and"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "they're hauling ass and they they just"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "start zipping ring rounds at us and you"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "can you can hear them, you know, zip zip"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "zip and the scariest ones were the the"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "ricochets. Zip zing. So, we're like"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "we're like we we can't move now. We're"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "pinned and they got us on like three"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "sides. Um we had separated. I had a new"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "guy. It wasn't he was a he was a SEAL"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "team 4. Uh he he had he was my radio"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "guy. He had never ever called in real"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "world close air support and I need him"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "now and he's may I may be 100 yards"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "away. Um I had heard up to this point"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "some of our standard operating"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "procedures that originated from Vietnam"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "were lines of gear. How you wear your"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "gear in lines first line, second line,"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "third line. Your first line gear is your"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "most important [ __ ] It's closest to"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "your body. It's on your belt. It's it's"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "it's um an you know an extra mag in a"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "pocket in Copenhagen, whatever. Uh cash."}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "Second line gear is your second most"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "important stuff. Magazines, grenades,"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "maybe some more water. And your third"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "line gear is your least important stuff"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "in your rucks sack. So that's your"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "sleeping bag and ground pad, extra"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "socks, foot powder. The reason, so I'd"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "been told you keep it that way is"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "because if you need to run, you can"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "start ditching your [ __ ] in order to get"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "lighter."}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "Now, that's the first time I've ever"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "ever heard anyone do it. I drop my ruck."}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "I sprint over to Tony. I got to get to"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "him because, you know, and people are"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "just eating dirt. I I lay next to him"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "and uh um I said, \"Okay, here's the"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "deal. That what up on the thing where"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "they set the flash checkpoint. Um hit"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "that first.\" And he said, \"I can't. We"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "don't have any air support.\""}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "I'm like, \"Okay, this is bad. Get you"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "got to get some whatever it takes.\" Cuz"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "you know, we'd been up there for a day"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "and a half. they'd lost interest in"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "whatever and other people whatever. So,"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "we're laying there and I'm just right"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "next to them and and um the rounds are"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "getting so close that they were hitting"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "air bursts above us with RPGs where"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "explosion and they're shooting mortars"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "at us too. Um that you'd hear an"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "explosion and look back to are my legs"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "still there?"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "[ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "And I mean nothing was hitting. I don't"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "know how I don't know how there it got"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "so bad. Um we we did we did this for an"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "hour where it it's not even there. The"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "worst feeling I've ever had in the world"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "is having someone shoot effective fire"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "at me, but realizing I can't shoot back"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "because my rounds probably won't reach"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "them and I if I lift my head up, I'm"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "done. Like we were seeing tracers uh"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "right between us and um how many of you"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "guys were there?"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "Um a total of"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "six five or six Americans."}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "That's it."}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "Maybe 15 Afghans."}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "How How about the oppos the"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "Oh, I I don't know. I There was a lot."}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "There was three or four truckloads full"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "of them."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "[ __ ] And um so so we're up there. This"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "is all happening and they they now they"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "were to the point they were so close"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "that I had a dude shooting at me. Um he"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "looked like me. I had a red beard to"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "white guy shooting a PKM but he's"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "yelling Allahu Akbar. God is great in"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "Arabic. So now I'm seeing this [ __ ] and"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "again we don't have I don't even have"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "night vision because I don't need it."}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "It's daytime. It's in my whatever. And"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "um that's when you start to think, okay,"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "not only is that al-Qaeda, that's a"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "chchin."}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "This is where you save at least one"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "bullet for yourself."}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "I'm not the those guys will skin you"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "alive. And we and and and this is all"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "happening. And finally Tony said, uh,"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "all right, I got one. I got one. I said,"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "awesome. Hit that [ __ ] checkpoint."}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "Get it in here now. And he said, okay, I"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "can't."}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "Time doesn't slow down. And really, you"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "shouldn't either. We all sit around and"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "say, \"Oh, I'll get to that later.\" But"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "some things shouldn't wait. Like"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "protecting your family's financial"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "future. Fabric by Gerber Life is term"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "life insurance you can get done today."}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "It's made for busy parents like you, all"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "online on your schedule, right from your"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "couch. You could be covered in under 10"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "minutes with no health exam required."}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "Fabric has flexible, highquality"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "policies that fit your family and your"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "budget, like a million dollars in"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "coverage for less than a dollar a day."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "If you have kids, and especially if"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "you're young and healthy, the time to"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "lock in low rates is now. Join the"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "thousands of parents who trust Fabric to"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "help protect their family. Apply today"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "in just minutes at"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "meetfabric.com/srclip."}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "That's meetfabric.com/srclip."}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "Mefabric.com/srclip."}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "Policies issued by Western Southern Life"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "Insurance Company, not available in"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "certain states. prices subject to"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "underwriting and health questions."}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "The the batteries in my radio just died"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "because we had been out there and it had"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "been on and they just they died. And so"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "one of my jokes about this is um um I"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "don't believe in micromanaging. You"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "should teach your people how to do it"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "and let them do it. But right now I"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "figured it was a proper time to"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "micromanage. So I said, \"Change the"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "[ __ ] batteries.\" And he said, \"I"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "can't. I'm not carrying the spares.\""}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "remember you are"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "there in the rucks sack that I dropped."}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "So I said something I mean I don't have"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "a choice at this point. I said something"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "along the lines of don't tell mom I did"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "this and I ran. So I'm running to that"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "thing and I don't know I don't know it's"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "I'm saying 100 yards and I don't know"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "how I hadn't been hit at this point and"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "naturally I know where they're packed."}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "They're probably at the bottom of this"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "[ __ ] thing there. I'm open to this"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "damn thing. I grabbed the two old school"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "batteries and now I'm running back. [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "the rucks sack. I have the batteries and"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "I I chucked them to him and now we're"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "calling an air support and uh there was"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "a funny story something uh okay no what"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "what he said was uh"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "bombs away 2 minutes out and I'm like"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "two minutes what did he [ __ ] dropped"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "us from the space shuttle is that the"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "first Nothing takes two minutes to fall"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "anywhere well it turns out it was I"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "think it was a it was Bones it was a B1"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "and he was"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "60,000 ft and he just dropped three JD"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "dams uh three 2,000 pounders"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "[ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "and it's danger close but like whatever"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "and uh"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "uh one of the guys said to me um this is"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "danger close what do we what do we do if"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "it hits us I said not a problem plug"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "your ears and then they don't they don't"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "they don't whistle they sizzle it"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "sounded like bacon"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "and then we lit the whole hillside lit"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "up and like I'm watching dudes on fire"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "running around that we just hit with"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "with that's the that's the first time I"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "was like I will never make another joke"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "about the air force that is thank you"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "that I heard that was America just that"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "and now now they're running al-Qaeda is"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "and I'm now I finally getting some shots"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "off I think I killed the chin they're"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "running up the hill [ __ ] lighting"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "them up um uh and it turned the tide"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "there and then we called them in again"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "it actually got to the point where we"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "bombed Pakistan for 4 hours. One of the"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "guys we called in, his call sign was"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "dude 12, which I thought was just"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "awesome. And he was, you know, now we're"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "calling in where he's flying upside down"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "and he's he's like wanting us to"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "describe what we see. And it's like, you"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "know, can you see the the peak with the"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "snow? Yes. Can you see the the"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "intersection of the river and Yes."}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "That's one unit of measure. I want you"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "to take two of those units, please, at"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "097 magnetic all this [ __ ] But like"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "the first thing that the conversation I"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "had with him was so awesome. He because"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "you know we got adrenaline going. He"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "wants you to calm down. So he said just"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "talk to me like I'm a man. And I said I"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "see why women find you attractive."}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "So yeah. So we so we get done with that"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "and we can find and then at this point"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "you know we got more fast movers. The"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "Kyo has showed up and they're just bad"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "[ __ ] And then we can call in"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "to um uh a couple 60s. We got some army"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "pilots coming. They're going to pick us"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "up. We're going to we're going to"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "bounce. Uh so I I they they called us"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "in. And I I got on the starboard side,"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "the right side of this this this uh this"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "Blackhawk and we're now we're leaving."}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "And um it's it's a it's a maybe a"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "10-minute flight back to A. That's how"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "close we were to this right on the"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "border. And uh that's the first time I"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "saw the um the battlefield that we just"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "created and it is scorched earth and I'm"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "thinking, \"Oh man, we just bombed"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "Pakistan."}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "That is an international incident.\""}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "Yeah. Then I thought, I'm in charge."}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "I'm probably going to hear about this."}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "Oh [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "And I was right because we landed at"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "Abad and they had already flown a"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "two-star general in there to meet with"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "us and and he said, \"Uh I and I'm in a"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "good mood at this point. I I was going"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "to die for the past six hours. Now I'm"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "going to live and I'm in a good mood.\""}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "And he said, \"Uh, hey O'Neal, you"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "realize we're not at war with Pakistan,"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "right?\" And I said, \"Yeah, man. we were"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "today and you should have [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "Yes, sir. And then he and they he said,"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "\"Yeah, there's going to be an"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "investigation obviously and uh you're"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "either going to get a silver star or"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "you're going to spend the rest of your"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "life in Levvenworth.\""}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "[ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "And you think waiting an hour for a bomb"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "is a long time. Try waiting 3 weeks for"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "that decision to be made. We got lucky"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "though. And and the the footage is still"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "on on on the internet where Pakistan was"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "saying it was an unprovoked attack by"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "American forces like they always do"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "because it turns out Pakistan [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "lies to us. Um, they had the footage as"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "they're getting the stuff. They think,"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "\"Okay, well, really now look at this."}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "Here's your guys attacking my guys.\" And"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "they they said there were something like"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "a 21 martyrs from the pack. We killed"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "like 21 Pakistanis that were fighting"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "us."}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "So, that's like a So, I did get a silver"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "star."}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "That you did?"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "Yeah. Yeah, that was my first silver"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "star. What's actually funny is I've been"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "I've been lying to my mom my entire"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "career because it's easier to go to war"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "than to send someone you love to war."}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "So, but their worrying is not going to"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "affect how you do. So, don't make them"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "worry. just lie to him. We're not doing"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "[ __ ] Don't worry, Mom. Iraq's not what"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "you think. We're not whatever. My mother"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "came down to um to Virginia Beach for my"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "the presentation of the Silver Star. And"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "they actually read the unclassified"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "version of what happened. And she's"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "sitting there listening. And I remember"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "saying, \"Mom,"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "I promise you I'll never get another"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "Silver Star.\""}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "Now, fast forwarding to the day after"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "the Bin Laden raid, I said, \"Mom, I I"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "think I lied to you. I think I'm getting"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "a second Silver Star.\""}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "[ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "Damn, dude."}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "That's crazy. And that was just because"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "another rule in life, you don't need to"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "go looking for it. Don't go looking for"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "No."}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "If it's meant to find you, it'll just"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "find you. Don't like uh well, like"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "thanks to jiu-jitsu, don't fight anyone"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "in a bar. You don't know who's a black"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "belt."}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "Very true."}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "Yeah. Don't go looking for it. If if you"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "get in a bar fight and someone starts"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "with a leg kick, apologize and buy them"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "a drink. No, my bad. I was wrong."}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "Exhales through the nose."}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "Damn."}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "No matter where you're watching Shan"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "Ryan Show from, if you get anything out"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "of this, please like, comment,"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "subscribe, and most importantly, share"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "this everywhere you possibly can. And if"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "you're feeling extra generous, please"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "leave us a review on Apple and Spotify"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "podcasts."}]

[{"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "My fellow Americans,"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "Let's talk about the situation at the border. We've seen a huge surge in migrants crossing the border since January. with the number of children in"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "custody higher than it was than its 2019 peak during the Trump administration. Your colleague Veronica Kayescoar of"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "Texas called the conditions there unacceptable. She was there on Friday. Is she right? What more must be done?"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "The actually the facts are these. There are more children about 6700 more"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "children unaccompanied children coming o over the border. uh the uh this is a"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "humanitarian challenge to all of us. Uh what the administration has inherited is"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "a broken system at the border and they are working to correct that in the children's interest. I'm so pleased that"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "the president as a temporary measure has sent FEMA to the border in order to help"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "facilitate the children going from one 72-hour"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "issue into where they are cared for as they are transferred into family homes"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "or homes that are safe for them to be. And I have to confess, I knew nothing about their suffering until 2021 when I"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "volunteered to help the Biden administration with the crisis at the southern border. As part of Operation"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "Artemis, I was deployed to the Pomona Fairplex Emergency Intake Site in California to help HHS Office of Refugee"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "Resettlement reunite children with sponsors in the United States. I thought"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "I was going to help place children in loving homes. Instead, I discovered that"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "children are being trafficked through a sophisticated network that begins with recruiting in home country, smuggling to"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "the US border, and ends when ORR delivers a child to a sponsor. Some"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "sponsors are criminals and traffickers and members of transnational criminal organizations. Some sponsors view"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "children as commodities and assets to be used for earning income. This is why we"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "are witnessing an explosion of labor trafficking. Now, whether it's intentional or not, it could be argued"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "that the United States government has become the middleman in a largecale"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "multi-billion dollar child trafficking operation that is run by bad actors"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "seeking to profit off of the lives of children."}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "Russia said once they take Ukraine, Poland and the Baltics are next. Those"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "are NATO countries. That puts America at war. This is about preventing war. It's"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "always been about preventing war. My husband is a combat veteran. He's deployed now. The last thing I want him"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "or any of his military brothers and sisters to do is to go to war. I think it is time to give the"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "Ukrainians more help uh hitting these bases inside Russia. One of the reasons that the administration has hesitated is"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "because they believe it will escalate things even further with Russia. Pull the US further in. Why not? Why? So why"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "do you think that's a good idea? Because it's Russia that has escalated this war. Russia has learned how to pull"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "its forces back out of the range where we have allowed Ukraine to use our weapons and get our support. American"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "media outlets have spoken to scores of people from Ukraine and they have done scores of interviews with Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "President Silinski. We ourselves have put in a request for an interview with Silinsky and we hope he accepts. But the"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "interviews he's already done in the United States are not traditional interviews. They are fawning Pep"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "sessions specifically designed to amplify Zilinski's demand that the US enter more deeply into a war in Eastern"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "Europe and pay for it. That is not journalism. It is government propaganda."}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "Propaganda of the ugliest kind. The kind that kills people. At the same time, our politicians and media outlets have been"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "doing this, promoting a foreign leader like he's a new consumer brand. Not a single Western journalist has bothered"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "to interview the president of the other country involved in this conflict, Vladimir Putin. Most Americans have no"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "idea why Putin invaded Ukraine or what his goals are now. They've never heard his voice. That's wrong. Americans have"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "a right to know all they can about a war they're implicated in. And we have the right to tell them about it because we"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "are Americans, too. The idea that we're going to send in offensive equipment and have planes and"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "tanks and trains going in with American pilots and American crews. Just"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "understand and don't kid yourself. No matter what you all say, that's called World War II. US official has confirmed"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "to CBS News President Biden has given authorization for Kev to use US supplied"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "long-range weapons to strike deep into Russian territory."}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "I'm sitting here with my father. I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me and every person he"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "knows and my ability to forever hold a grudge that you will regret not following my direction. I am sitting"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "here waiting for the call with my father. Sounds like a shakedown, doesn't it,"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "director? I'm not going to get into comedy with that. You you you seem deeply uncurious about"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "it, don't you? Almost suspiciously uncurious. Are you protecting the Bidens? Absolutely not. The FBI doesn't"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "answer. You won't answer the question about whether or not that's a shakeddown and everybody knows why you won't answer"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "it. Because to to the millions of people who will see this, they know it is. And your inability to acknowledge that is"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "deeply revealing about you."}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "Heat. Heat."}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "British police into the embassy and arrest. After a long flight from the UK, Julian"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "Assange's day began on the island of Saipan, a tiny territory chosen because"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "it's the closest US court to Australia. This normally quiet courthouse swarming"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "with reporters. And the Wikileaks founder arrived flanked by former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd."}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "The individual used an AR-15 in order to act out his"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "assassination attempt. An AR-15 has a range of about 4 to 600 yards. My"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "question, why is the Secret Service protective perimeter shorter than one of the most popular"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "semi-automatic weapons in the United States? There are a number of weapons out there uh with a number of ranges. Uh"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "again, an advance was completed. uh the determination of the perimeter. I'm not going to speak to specifics, but there"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "are a number of factors that are taken into account when we determine our perimeter. Uh some of it has to do with"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "terrain, some of it has to do with buildings, some of it has to do with assets and resources uh that are available. What I'm hearing is that a"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "perimeter was not established outdoors in an outdoor venue that would prevent"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "an AR-15, which is one of the most common weapons used in mass shootings, um, from being able to to be within the"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "range of Secret Service protection. Have you provided all audio and video recordings in your possession to this"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "committee as we asked on July 15th? Yes or no? I would have to get back to you. That is a no. You're full of today."}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "You're just being completely dishonest."}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "So what is the threat to democracy? people on both sides, people in power"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "saying out loud that they want to control what you get to hear and see. It"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "is real. It is a threat and it is happening and growing. And"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "I'll tell you what, punishing thought is on the agenda. And I just heard it from"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "someone who's not a coupe, not Alex Jones, not Tucker Carlson, one of the"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "most sober and intelligent politicians of our time, Hillary Rodm Clinton."}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "I think it's important to indict uh the Russians uh just as Mueller indicted a"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "lot of Russians uh who were engaged in uh uh direct election interference and"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "boosting Trump back in 2016. But I also think there are Americans who are uh"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "engaged in uh this kind of propaganda uh and whether they should be civily or"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "even in some cases criminally charged uh is something that would be a better"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "deterrent. CEO Mark Zuckerberg admitted that the Biden administration repeatedly"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "pressured Meta to censor content including information about Hunter Biden. And Zuck admitted that he also"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "regrets complying with these demands. In a letter to the House Judiciary Committee chairman, Representative Jim"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "Jordan, Zuck writes, quote, \"The FBI warned us about a potential Russian disinformation operation about the Biden"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "family and Burisma in the leadup to the 2020 election. That fall, when we saw a New York Post story reporting on Joe"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "Biden's family, we sent that story to fact checkers for review and temporarily demoted it.\" you know, you do some"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "tweets that seem to be or at least give support to some who would call others conspiracy theories."}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "Well, yes, but I mean honestly, you know,"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "some of these conspiracy theories uh have turned out to be true."}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "Which ones? Well, like the the Hunter Biden laptop. That's true. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "I am in awe of Ms. Janowitz,"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "when the department picked her, did did it know that she had said that Mr."}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "Hunter Biden's laptop is Russian disinformation? Did it know"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "that she had vouched for the veracity of the steel dossier?"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "Uh, Senator, let me um repeat myself and add an additional fact. Um, one, we do"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "not discuss internal hiring processes. I think you've got no idea what disinformation is, and I don't think the"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "government's capable of it. Do you know who the greatest propagator of disinformation in the history of the world is? The US government. Think of"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "all the debates and disputes we've had over the last 50 years in our country. We work them out by debating them. We"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "don't work them out by the government being the arbiter. I don't want you guard rails. I want you to have nothing to do with speech."}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "To be a conspiracy theorist is to have been right all along despite the efforts of the paid for liars. And it's also to"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "be demonstrabably well ahead of the gullible still believing in smoke and mirrors. Conspiracy theorist was first"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "used by the CIA to shut down those who doubted the official line about the murder of John F. Kennedy. That fishy"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "old tale about a lone shooter and a magic bullet and then that lone shooter being shot by another lone shooter"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "before he could talk. That was in the 1960s. And from then the label conspiracy theorist worked for decades"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "as the means to make thinking people too scared to speak when they smelt a rat. Let 2024 be the year of clearing out the"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "rubbish, the trash, the long overdue year when the pastor or sell by date labels, conspiracy theorists among them,"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "are cast into the dust bin of history."}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "Wake up everybody. Welcome into Redacted on this Monday. I'm Clayton Morris. I'm Natalie Morris. And on this show, we tend to cover the"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "stories the mainstream media largely ignores. Why is a terrorist going to the White House today? Why did Why did a"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "terrorist with a $10 million bounty on his head just show up at the White House for a meeting with President Trump?"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "We're going to talk about normalization that much different than the normal clientele that visits the White House."}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "Zalinski's been there, right? Netanyahu's been there. Golani, we're talking about of course"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "the new head of Syria who was normalized by MI6 and the CIA just showed up at the White House a few minutes ago there,"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "right? I mean, we are opposed to this because he was on the wanted list, but now, hey, just normalize terror. That's"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "what we always say on this show. I have a t-shirt. Uh, we're going to talk about Biden, how it continues under President"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "Trump. Remember, we were promised a whole different economy. We don't have that. Now, President Trump is going to bribe you into thinking that the economy"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "is great. It's not, and we're going to take uh a bird's eye view at what it"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "will actually do if we get these stimulus checks. Yeah. $2,000 stimulus checks on the way. and also Zalinsky. Well, speaking of"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "Zalinsky and corruption, it just turns out there was a massive 15-month investigation into this clown's inner"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "circle inside of Ukraine. And it turns out that they had been stealing hundreds of millions, hundreds of millions of US"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "dollars and euros and keeping it for themselves when there were rolling"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "blackouts across Ukraine. And this money was meant to sort of help these blackouts, the energy infrastructure."}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "but all of Zillinsk's inner circle capturing hundreds of millions of dollars of your taxpayer dollars so they"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "could live a lavish lifestyle. By the way, do you remember when Congress Matt Gates and Marjgerie Taylor Green specifically put up a House bill that"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "would have audited the money that was going into Ukraine and Democrats called them uh Putin stooges? Like this is a"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "big gift for Putin. Really? Okay. Anyway, we'll talk about all of that and"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "more as the show begins today. So, let us know where you're joining us from uh around the world. Thank you guys so much for subscribing and being a part of our"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "show. We're live every day at 400 p.m. Eastern time. So, get your chats in. Now, I see tens of thousands of you in"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "the chat room already. So, great to see you guys. Uh before we get started, we're going to talk about Biden under Trump. We get the"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "same just sort of a different flavor. Uh buckle up for that. But first, we want to tell you about our friends over at Shopify because did you know how much"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "e-commerce is built off of Shopify? Well, quite a lot, including the redacted stores. So, if you go over to"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "redacted.store, is it redacted.com? Sorry. Uh, you'll see that purple shop pay button. That"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "means that the store that you're on is run on Shopify. That means that the people who run that store can rely on"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "Shopify from graphic design, handling, payments, shipping, fulfillment, all of it. They can do all the backend. So, if"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "you'd like to launch your store to the world, let Shopify take care of the details. It's easy. It's easy to make"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "something beautiful that doesn't look like, I don't know, web 1.0. You don't have to really have an eye for graphic"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "design or a talent. You just implement and they will help you every step of the way. Plus, they have roundthe-clock"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "customer support and care. If you get stuck, again, Shopify has advice. They"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "have their award-winning 247 customer support. You'd be surprised how much of the web runs on Shopify. So, if they can"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "do it, you can, too. Check them out at shopify.com/redacted. Sign up for a one month trial period"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "today. They have everything you need to grow your business. again, shopify.comredacted."}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "Also, I did not bring uh I should have brought my new shirt. We have a new shirt on the redacted store. It says,"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "\"Be smarter than your algorithm.\" You probably noticed that when idiots fight with you about politics, it's because"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "they are running off of their algorithm. Things that the algorithm told them to be worked up about. You know better than"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "that. So, the saying, which I hope goes viral, be smarter than your algor algorithm can be found on the redacted"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "store. I will bring that shirt to you tomorrow. I brought it up. It's upstairs. Will you wear it? Yeah. I'm miked in. Can't show you right"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "now. So, check it out for yourself or we'll bring it tomorrow. Yes, I'll wear it. I'll wear it, too. I'll wear it. We'll be twinsies. Okay."}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "Someone said I look tired today. No, I just got a haircut. That doesn't have anything to do with anything. We had our youngest had a"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "little stomach flu over the weekend and so sleep this weekend around the Morris house. We're both a little cranky. Um, and I"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "think that I'm getting it. And by me saying that I'm going to get it means Clayton has it now. Right now, that's"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "how you make your husband sick. Yeah. As soon as she says she's sick, then I'm getting I'm feeling something in my throat all"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "I think I got what you have. And I'm like, \"Shut up. It's not your turn.\" Uh, so we'll see who falls this week. I"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "intend to be here all the week, so please stay with us. All right. Well, President Trump is giving us bidenomics"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "all over again. New stimulus checks and a 50-year mortgage. What the heck? This"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "is where we should all remember that it was in fact President Trump who handed out the first co stimulus money and that"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "led to inflation. We warned you then. We are saying it now. Now a lot of people who like Trump for many reasons are"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "saying well he had to he was pressured by sort of the powers that be during the pandemic maybe but he's not being"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "pressured now. Why is he doing this? If we don't see that this is bodomics 2.0"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "we are fools. Now, what do we mean by bidenomics? Well, during the Biden years, we got massive government"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "handouts. The dollar crashed to support the war in Ukraine. And the White House was telling us all the while that the"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "economy has never been better. We found that insulting when that happened then,"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "which is why we find this insulting when President Trump is doing it now. I'm pleased to report that today the"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "United States has the strongest economy, the strongest borders, the strongest military, the strongest friendships, and"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "the strongest spirit of any nation anywhere. We have the we have the greatest economy right now. A lot of"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "people don't see that. But if you look at what's happening with all the factories, AI, auto plants all over the"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "country being built that if you would have thought about that two or three years ago, you notice that it was the"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "opposite. They're all leaving. Now they're all coming in. They're all coming back and then some. And I think"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "that we can honestly say, and I think you're going to see it even more so over the next 12 months, that this is the"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "golden age of America. This is the golden age. Okay. Well, you just don't see it yet."}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "He says, \"If you don't see it now, you will eventually see it. So, you need to just start seeing it.\""}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "Uh, former Congressman Ron Paul had took umbrage with that statement over the"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "weekend, saying all this talk about a golden age, a golden age. Uh, no. We're $ 38 trillion in debt. The housing"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "market is being squeezed now. We're seeing signs of a recession as Treasury Secretary Scott Benson said this week uh"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "that we are already probably in a housing recession. So, we are seeing we're seeing massive layoffs. Where"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "exactly is this golden age? I mean, I know that there are like MAGA influencers like golden age is here. We're so back. We're so back."}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "Raise your hand. What is different under President Trump? What is different? Because the economic policy is the same"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "support were massive debt, government expansion. Now we get little breadcrumbs"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "from the department of government efficiency like this DEI thing, this program in Mosamb beek or whatever."}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "That's great. Those are the to the tune of billions, not trillions, which is what our debt is now. Over the weekend,"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "President Trump said, \"Things are so good, we're going to give out $2,000 checks, basically a dividend from our"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "tariffs because we just are breaking all these records.\" Today, he clarified that all of this money is from leftover. All"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "the leftover money will go into uh you know, US citizens and it will pay down"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "the national debt. So, it's not like, let's get ourselves out of debt first so that we don't continue to devalue the"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "dollar and steal from savings accounts. No, it's let's give you this money and then whatever's left over, we'll pay"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "down the debt. The debt's not ever gone down. It's not going to go down. So, he's leading us to believe that he can"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "do that. Now, I want to remind you, let's rewind the clock 5 years because"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "when President Trump instituted the first COVID relief payout, economists"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "were saying this is going to lead to inflation and devalue the dollar. Here"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "is one of many people who were saying this from the economist. They specifically predicted massive stimulus"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "programs would be another potential s source of inflation because governments around the world will borrow heavily to"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "finance schemes, which is exactly what happened since this article was written."}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "We've had inflation at 26%. Since this article, April of 2020, now"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "all of our costs are up 26%. That means that if you took those three COVID"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "stimulus checks of around $3,000 in 2020, it was a poison pill because now"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "you took in $3,000, but your cost of living has gone up 26%. That's not a"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "good deal. Who would vote for that deal? Who would take that deal now in knowing"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "that next year and the year after it's going to get worse and worse for you? That was predicted. That has happened."}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "So, if you cash a $2,000 dividend check now, have we learned nothing? What will"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "happen? You want another 26%. How about we go another round? Because where, Clayton, does that money come from?"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "Well, first of all, it we're borrowing it. We're borrowing. No. Where? Right. Exactly. Exactly. So, this is all phony money."}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "So, someone in the chat room said, \"Oh, TDS channel. I'm out of here.\" No. I I like President Trump very much and he's"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "been great to my family, but on this issue on taking tariff money and"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "funneling it out in the form of checks as some sort of a dividend check when we're $ 38 trillion in debt and we're"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "sending we just sent another round of billions into Ukraine for crying out loud. Like we need to stop this"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "boondoggle right now. We are America first on this channel and we sort of align really my you know with Thomas"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "Massie and Ron Paul on making sure that our American spending stays here in the United States. It's not being sent out"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "around the world in the form of ridiculous sort of stipen checks. That's such a stupid comment. It's not"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "personality based at all. We felt this way during Trump 1.0. We felt this way during Biden. We feel this way during"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "Trump. It's just the economist. The fake printing of money the fake printing of money. has absolutely nothing to do with"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "Trump's personality. At at the heart of it, of course, is the Federal Reserve and the fake printing of money and a money system that is"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "absolutely corrupt. And these guys are totally corrupt and it's illegal what the Federal Reserve is doing. So, you just want to send out, first of all,"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "they don't even want us sending out paper checks. They want us all to be sending out digital ID checks so that we're all putting on uh central bank"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "digital currency and that we can control everything. That's what they really want at the heart of all of this is totally"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "and if we're talking about derangement syndrome and our feelings, we did think maybe during Trump 2.0 the shackles"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "would be off and he would make more drastic fiscal changes such as ending the Federal Reserve or more pro business"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "type things or more shrinking of the size of the government. He's done none of that. So it has nothing to do with"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "personality. This is not an indictment on who he is at as a person. This is us collectively having to live the Trump"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "administration, which makes life harder and is a theft from the working class. So, take that TDS comment and shove it"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "up your ass. Okay, let's now talk about the 50-year mortgage. Uh, I hate the idea right away. Now, mortgages is"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "something Clayton and I absolutely geek out about. We, in fact, have a book about it. How to pay down your mortgage"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "in five years. Our entire work is around shrinking the mortgage to five years,"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "not expanding it to 50 years. So, you're talking to the person who already hates this idea, wants to get you out of debt"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "faster, not slower. Even scarier is that the 50-year mortgage idea was floated in"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "this post by President Trump comparing himself to Franklin Roosevelt, which"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "makes me want to fall out of my chair. worst president in history. Full stop. The history book adoration of him is"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "propaganda. I'm going to prove that to you. Now, a 50-year mortgage is also a poison pill. It's about as wise as"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "building your own house with no carpentry experience. Let's just look at the quick back of the napkin math on"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "this. A 30-year mortgage on a $500,000 home at a 6% interest, which is what we've got around today, is about"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "$460,000 in interest alone. So, that puts that house at close to a million"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "dollars. even though you think it's half a million. Well, if we extend that by 20"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "years, a 50-year mortgage would have $860,000"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "over the life of that loan in interest. That's almost tripling the price of the house. Why would you think that that is"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "helping to mean people don't own their homes and they're in debt longer? Now,"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "let's look at the 30-year mortgage because it in itself in and of itself is not an awesome financial product. In"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "fact, this was introduced during the Roosevelt administration. And guess what happened? The price of homes skyrocketed"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "and the Federal Reserve was given the power to manipulate the market. Pervert is the word I like better than"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "manipulate. That's exactly what they do. Now, in the 1920s, prior to the 30-year mortgage, the average house cost about"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "$6,000. By the 50s, once the 30-year mortgage had taken hold as the standard"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "way to buy a house, the average home cost $30,000. That means that home"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "prices quadrupled because of the extending of the debt, because of this 30-year mortgage scheme. So, that will"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "happen. Before that, Americans had to save about 40 to 50% down, and banks"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "would give them a short-term note. They were not a slave for their entire life. That was never a thing, which was good"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "for two reasons. One, people didn't buy things they couldn't afford, and two, the price of homes was kept low. Once"}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "the American home was purchased with mostly debt, housing prices exploded. And since then, housing prices have"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "risen more than 400% in real terms and over 2,000% in nominal dollars. So, what"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "will a 50-year mortgage do? I'll tell you what it won't do. It will not bring"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "down the price of homes, which is what this was intended to do. Make it so that young people can buy a home. It will not"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "bring the price down. It will send the price up, but it will make young people a slave to their mortgage for longer."}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "So, who benefits? The bank and the Federal Reserve. Now, anyone who"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "romanticizes President Roosevelt is, in my book, not a serious person or a serious student of history. Roosevelt"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "was the template for government expansion, consumer debt, slavery of the"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "American people, and massive power grabs. Oh, but people say, \"No, no, he was a hero. The New Deal.\" Uh, read this"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "book and get back to me about that New Deal nonsense. A careful study of the Great Depression will not leave you warm"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "fuzzies for Roosevelt. Here's a reminder about Roosevelt that you should keep in mind when President Trump romanticizes"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "him. One, Roosevelt put Japanese in concentration camps. He stole gold from"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "Americans and then marked up the price once it was in the hands of the government. He proposed a 99% tax rate."}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "He was only stopped that from Congress. He gave himself so much power that the Supreme Court started ruling against him"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "over and over and over again. And then he threatened to pack the court and they stopped. And then he continued to do"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "what he wanted unchecked. After his inauguration, he declared a bank holiday and launched what was known as the 100"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "days, which was a record-breaking outpouring of all of this legislation and more. What you see on your screen"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "now is all of the things that gave the government power. And due to this overreach, it made Washington DC the"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "largest employer and finance year financeier in the nation. Basically, he"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "put the government into every sector of American life. He is the reason that the"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "government has now the power to control every person and industry. There is also evidence that he ignored warnings about"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "Pearl Harbor leading the American people into war. And one more thing that should make you extremely uncomfortable about"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "this comparison of FDR is that he did not leave office. He ran for a third term. He won it. He was intending to"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "keep that power. He only lost it because he died. It is because of him that we"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "have the 22nd amendment. So again, knowing all of this about FDR, how do you feel about President Trump"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "asking to h have a template of his legacy? How do you feel about that? Um, well, I'm not happy about it."}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "Someone in the chat room like, Mr. Mr. Mike says, \"But false statement, Natalie. You can pay off your 50-year fixed mortgage whenever you want or"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "refi. What the f?\" Yeah, but that's not the point. The point is that most people are not going to. Like if you're into a"}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "30-year mortgage, the whole reason you go for the 30-year is because you can presumably get the well, you get the"}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "lower interest rate, right? And then you're going to be you're going to stay with that mortgage for many many years. What's the incentive if you if you think"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "that you've got like a bag of cash laying around like why wouldn't you pay it off? Buy the house outright, right? Why wouldn't you buy it outright?"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "So if you've got like bags of cash laying around like Sinsky, then you would put that towards the house. But if"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "you don't have that money, then that's why you want that lower interest rate. And that's why you want that lower monthly payment so you can be locked in"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "for 50 years, but you don't actually own the house. You're just basically renting it from the bank. And then on top of"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "that, of course, we've got property taxes, which is if you want to go the other direction, like look what Ronda"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "Santis is doing. Say what you will about Ronda Santis, but like look what he's trying to do in Florida. Go the opposite"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "direction, right? Which is make you actually own a home. So get rid of property taxes so that you're actually"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "not paying the government on a regular basis. You're basically renting your land from the government. The moment you"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "stop paying it, sorry, they'll come and take it from you, right? Same with, you know, cars and other things. So, if you don't make the car"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "payment, guess what? The repos repos are skyrocketing right now, by the way. So, we are being crushed. This is to me is"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "not the answer at all. 50-year mortgage. Um, what we should do is build more"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "homes, allow take the government regulations away from builders so we can actually have a boom in building in this"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "country. We don't have enough properties. We have how many millions of homes shortage are we right now? We are"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "in a housing deficit across the United States because we don't have homes. There's all these restrictions on"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "building. There's all these regulations on building right now. So, we can't do it. So, maybe remove some of the"}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "regulations, allow builders to build, allow uh individuals to be able to move"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "through a mortgage process way more quickly. It's incredibly ownorous right now. and"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "maybe stop letting Black Rockck buy up properties, right? Well, that's the other thing. It's like they don't want individual"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "home ownership, right? That's the thing. We They don't really want us owning anything. So, if they can like not have"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "us own the homes and just have the banks own the homes, they're totally fine with that. So, this is like a boondoggle for"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "Wall Street. Make no mistake about it. I have huge problems with this. I don't see I haven't seen anybody celebrate this. Like, absolutely. More"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "and longer debt. Who likes No one No one on the right. No one on the right. that we respect anyway um is"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "celebrating this and those sort of MAGA influencers that are like our access journalists are keeping their mouth shut"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "about this because they know this is a disaster. But no one on the right that we respect at all who's like truly"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "conservative supports this at all. In fact, it's a total joke and everyone can see right through it. I was just talking to a construction friend of mine just uh"}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "this afternoon. He was here at the house and he said 50-year mortgages. He's like that's not home ownership, that's"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "renting. That's ridiculous. and he's a huge Trump supporter. So, all that to say, uh, this is not going over well."}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "What about liberals? Do they like it or no? Because they like homelessness. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "liberals think. I don't really tap into the liberal ideology. They, well, liberals don't want you to be a part,"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "you know, they don't want you to own anything. They don't want you to be part of the American dream. They don't want you to have home ownership. They want you to work multiple jobs. So, I don't"}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "know that that's And they love the government. They love government except the Trump government. So, I I'm"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "not sure. Yeah, I'm not tapped in. The algorithm doesn't show me this now that I'm saying it out loud."}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "What do you guys think? Show me what liberals think. Let's see in the chat room about mortgages. Let's see in the Rumble uh Rumble rants"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "here. Anybody on Rumble? Um, thank you, Clayton. Um, yeah, Ark River"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "says, \"Thank you, Clayton. Removing power from homebuilders and putting it back in the hands of citizens is what we need to write this ship.\" Um, yeah, it's"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "a 50-year lease. V. Gregory says Dave Ramsey would be for this. Noel says Dave Ramsey would be for this. Um, who came"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "up with a 50-year mortgage idea and the 2K stimulus checks? Whoever whoever that"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "is, Trump needs to fire immediately. Well, I just don't understand how you're going to hand out $2,000"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "tariff stimulus checks when we're $ 38 trillion in debt. Like, the math doesn't"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "add up. It's unsustainable. The idea was that all of these tariffs are supposed to bring manufacturing back to the"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "United States. It's also supposed to fill up our coffers once again with an enormous inflow of money into the United"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "States. It's why we're low that's why we're devaluing the US dollar, by the way. Like that's the whole point of"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:47", "text": "devaluing the US dollar um and making it easier for these countries right now to"}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "want to invest in the United States and put money in the United States. So, it doesn't add up at all. $2,000 checks"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "when you should be actually paying down our massive debt right now, right? And this comment says, \"We'll just refinance it later.\" you're missing"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "the point of what this will do to everybody because those tools were available during the housing crisis of"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "2007. You were getting into cheap mortgages, sometimes mortgages you did not qualify for, uh, interestonly"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:21", "text": "mortgages and the lenders thought, well, this person will refinance when the housing cost goes up and then they'll be"}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "okay. People a did not do that. But what it did to the rest of us is that housing"}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "prices crashed and then now they're artificially high. So yes, you can play the market. What it does to the rest of"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "us will increase the price of housing. So even if you're smarter than most, what it does economically, the fallout,"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "it will make another insolvent housing crisis and we will all have to live through that. So that's only a solution"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "for you, not for all of us. Swivelhead medic in our chat room says, \"Thank you for the $5 super chat.\" says,"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "\"I did 40-year subprime mortgages in the early 2000s. Look where that led.\" Right. Exactly. It's It's about what it"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "does to all of us, not are you smart enough to play. Sure, plenty of people are. Trump did, right? He he did great"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "with all of his investment mortgages. That's great for some. It's not great for all. So, for a leader to be saying"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:19", "text": "this, knowing that housing prices will go up, that will just put our next generation into financial concentration"}, {"start": "00:39:19", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "camp. Swivelhead medic says, \"I believe I'll believe it when I see it. I'm still waiting on my $5,000 Doge check. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "remember they were going to cut like Doge checks to the American people, too, with all the all the waste, fraud, and abuse that we discovered and then like"}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "Elon got pushed out and that where, you know, again, where'd that go? Um, news and preps $10 super chat says, \"You"}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "never own your home. Why property tax? You don't pay. They steal your home.\" Same with your car registration and you"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "don't pay tickets and they impound you. You are a slave. All right, keep letting us know what you think about this. Uh"}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "maybe David, we can put up a poll about um do you like 50-year mortgages? We'll have to put it up on our YouTube channel"}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "because Rumble doesn't allow polls right now. So, all right. Well, since we're talking about mortgages, now is a good time to"}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "tell you about our friends at American Financing because the Fed did just drop interest rates. And that's great news"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:12", "text": "for American Homeowners because if you're feeling overwhelmed about the upcoming holidays, well, there's no time"}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "than now to get your finances in order. Uh, it's hard to think about the holidays when everything's really"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "expensive and your credit cards are already pushed to the max. But now is a great time to pay off that debt."}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "American Financing is helping homeowners like you access the equity in their home for instant savings. Again, you wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "have any equity in your home if you had a 50-year mortgage, but thankfully we don't have those right now. So, whatever"}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:44", "text": "you have in equity is yours. You can use it however you'd like. And American Financing can help teach you that."}, {"start": "00:40:44", "end": "00:40:50", "text": "They're saving their a the average customer $800 a month. Many people seeing rates in the low fives and that's"}, {"start": "00:40:50", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "a gamecher when you compare that to high interest credit cards. If you start today, you also can delay two mortgage"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "payments right during the holidays. It costs absolutely nothing to find out how much you can save. The holidays will be"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "here before you know it. So don't wait. Call their salarybased mortgage consultants today. 866898434"}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "or go to americanfancing.net/redacted. One more time, that's americanfing.net/redacted."}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:25", "text": "Well, well, well. It turns out that Ukrainian dictator Zalinsky and his inner circle are wildly corrupt. Who"}, {"start": "00:41:25", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "could have seen this coming? Oh, yeah, we did. Years ago on this show, the lavish cars we reported on, the homes"}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:37", "text": "they were buying with oceanfront views. We covered all of it. No one did anything about it. No one did anything"}, {"start": "00:41:37", "end": "00:41:43", "text": "to stop it. Well, well, well. Turns out someone is finally trying to stop it. at"}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "least word this morning that Zalinsk's business partner and his justice minister and many other allies close to"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "Zalinsky have been implicated in a massive moneyaundering scheme using t US tax dollars meant to defend their energy"}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:03", "text": "infrastructure. Shocking. They found bags of dollars and"}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "euros estimated they stole more than 100 million US. Look at these all nicely"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:15", "text": "wrapped and shrink wrapped US dollars. all sent to Ukraine."}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "You can see where it's even coming from. Atlanta, Kansas City, Federal Reserve, like just shipping it"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "out to them. Okay, so I just want to read from the report this afternoon and"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:34", "text": "quote it specifically. Ukraine's top anti-corruption authorities on Monday searched properties linked to senior"}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": "00:42:40", "text": "government officials and a former business partner of Vladimir Zalinski as part of a sweeping investigation into"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "alleged graft in the country's energy sector. News of the probe came amid escalating"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "Russian aerial assaults on Ukraine's energy infrastructure that have led to rolling blackouts and growing anger at"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:43:01", "text": "Ukrainian authorities for failing to protect power facilities. Hm. If only they had money in which to protect these"}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:07", "text": "power facilities. Oh, wait, they did. But they stole it all. The alleged scheme involved kickbacks from"}, {"start": "00:43:07", "end": "00:43:13", "text": "contractors hired to build fortifications to defend energy infrastructure against Russian missiles"}, {"start": "00:43:13", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "and drones. So they were hired to protect the citizens from these rolling blackouts"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "and the problems with the energy infrastructure, but they stole the money instead. It will add to concerns among Ukraine's"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "chief partners that the country needs to tackle graft as it seeks billions more dollars in Western support for its war"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:36", "text": "effort and economy. Yeah, you think? Oh, so you want us to send you more"}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:41", "text": "billions. Yet you're stealing our money, putting"}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:48", "text": "it in your pockets. hundreds of millions of dollars just in your multiple homes,"}, {"start": "00:43:48", "end": "00:43:54", "text": "shrink wrapped, I guess, in your in your closet so that you can take these lavish trips and buy things overseas, buy"}, {"start": "00:43:54", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "houses in Spain, Mayorca, wherever else."}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:06", "text": "It's unbelievable. So, what's amazing is that Ukrainians have been dealing with these rolling blackouts. The money was"}, {"start": "00:44:06", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "supposed to help them stop any of these blackouts. In other words, these corrupt officials"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "stole money that was meant to keep the lights on for its citizens. I mean, how they don't care because"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "these are the same scumbags, by the way, that will round up young men, throw them into patty wagons, and have drive them"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "off to the front lines of a war that they're not prepared to fight, nor do they want to. And then they'll be killed, thrown into the meat grinder"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "because they don't care. They don't care about Ukrainians at all. They care about lining their own pockets. Oh, and by the"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:45", "text": "way, you want to join the EU? No, we've nipped our corruption in the bud. Sure you have. So, the most corrupt"}, {"start": "00:44:45", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "government in all of Europe wants to join the European Union. But honestly, this is our fault in the"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "United States for funding these corrupt bastards in the first place. We've known that Ukraine is the most corrupt country"}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "in Europe. Remember back, by the way, when Congress wouldn't vote to allow us"}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:09", "text": "to audit all of that money that Biden and the Democrats were sending to Ukraine and the neocons. So, Congress"}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:14", "text": "was trying to step in on this and trying to push forth an audit. I remember it"}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:20", "text": "and they voted against it. Here it is. House GOP breaks with Democrats over"}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "audit of US funds for Ukraine. What I love is when Congressman Matt"}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "Gates and Marjgerie Taylor Green introduced the bill, Democrats crapped all over it, saying it would be a gift"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:40", "text": "to Putin. It's a gift to Putin for us to audit our own money. Okay. Here at the"}, {"start": "00:45:40", "end": "00:45:47", "text": "time, House Democrats said the measure would undermine strong bipartisan support for robust assistance to Ukraine"}, {"start": "00:45:47", "end": "00:45:53", "text": "to fend off Russia's more than year-long war of aggression against that country. Representative Kathy Manning of North"}, {"start": "00:45:53", "end": "00:45:59", "text": "Carolina. This person should be voted out of office. Is this person still in office? Oh my god. Get her out of there."}, {"start": "00:45:59", "end": "00:46:05", "text": "Fire her ass. She said she called the measure divisive and ill advised and"}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:12", "text": "said it was a partisan political ploy at the height of legislative irresponsibility that jeopardizes US"}, {"start": "00:46:12", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "national security and partnership with European allies in Ukraine. The height of legislative"}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:25", "text": "irresponsibility. these people in in Congress are corrupt as hell. I'd be curious if if"}, {"start": "00:46:25", "end": "00:46:34", "text": "Representative Manning got any kickbacks for this that type of position. Did she receive any good uh campaign money?"}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "Cuz all of this corrupt money was flowing from Democrats through USAID and all of these NOS's flowing into Ukraine,"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:46", "text": "flowing right into the back pockets of these corrupt Democrats. Well, what if I use this excuse not to"}, {"start": "00:46:46", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "pay my taxes because the government's corrupt? I should not be expected to keep my finances in order in order to"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:47:01", "text": "pay into a corrupt government because that's irresponsible. I have I have other things to do, you know? I have I"}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:06", "text": "have to get my nails done like that. It it just it just blows my mind coming full circle cuz when we first covered"}, {"start": "00:47:06", "end": "00:47:12", "text": "this, it was like a couple years ago. It just blew my mind cuz the issue they were having was not the money they were"}, {"start": "00:47:12", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "sending. It was that they wanted it audited. They wanted to know where this money was going. And that was what"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:24", "text": "people were saying, this is a gift to Putin. Like, well, hang on, time out. Like, we just want to know where this money is going. And that's what they"}, {"start": "00:47:24", "end": "00:47:30", "text": "fought against. And now, now what are we looking at? We now we know. I mean, we could have caught this with an audit."}, {"start": "00:47:30", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "Yeah. So then they should not be able to audit me. Oh, good. Kathy Manning is gone. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:41", "text": "good. She's gone, right? But by this So then why why are we not held to the"}, {"start": "00:47:41", "end": "00:47:48", "text": "same standards as Ukraine? Why? Because because that would be a gift to Putin. Aren't you paying attention? It'd"}, {"start": "00:47:48", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "be a gift to Putin. Um, here's what she said. Specifically, passage of this measure would represent a gift to Putin"}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "and his Kremlin cronies and provide visibility into the plans of our military and intelligence leaders strive"}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "to protect at all costs. What the hell? Therefore, we must reject it. So, it's"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:12", "text": "somehow by us auditing our money is giving away state secrets about our military."}, {"start": "00:48:12", "end": "00:48:19", "text": "Really? But it's a gift to Putin. Okay. Again, when they look at my finances,"}, {"start": "00:48:19", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "they get a secret into what I spend my money on when I file my taxes. Yeah. So, okay, Ukraine is is gets better"}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:33", "text": "treatment than US citizens. Oh, yeah. For sure. And then when pressed on that point, this former member of Congress, Kathy"}, {"start": "00:48:33", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "Manning, doubled down, gas lit all of us. Quote, \"We're in a war. Children are"}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:45", "text": "dying. Maternity hospitals are being blown to smitherreens by a depraved sociopath in the Kremlin.\" That's been"}, {"start": "00:48:45", "end": "00:48:50", "text": "debunked, by the way. Of course, we know that was a fake talking point. Uh, this"}, {"start": "00:48:50", "end": "00:48:58", "text": "is no time to send any signal to any signal to those brave people that we waver one iota in our ongoing support."}, {"start": "00:48:58", "end": "00:49:06", "text": "So, we cannot have any accounting of our money whatsoever. Turns out that money being stolen by"}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:12", "text": "Zalinsk's inner circle and lining their pockets so they could go on lavish trips and buy expensive houses and cars all"}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:20", "text": "with your money. But, you know, this is a gift to Putin. So, we can't we can't check this money at all. All right. And"}, {"start": "00:49:20", "end": "00:49:27", "text": "by the way, I love that the idea and these articles are sort of written around this idea that Zalinski is not also dirty as hell and tied to all of"}, {"start": "00:49:27", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "this while his wife is like flying around on private jets and doing expensive shopping trips. Where are they"}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "getting that money from? We're getting it from you guys, from all of us. But Zalinsky, apparently, he's just he's a"}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:44", "text": "golden boy here. He has he has nothing to do with any of this. It's just his entire inner circle is all corrupt."}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:51", "text": "Really too bad. He hasn't been able to fix that. I didn't know that there was I'm just I didn't know that Sergey He has Sergey"}, {"start": "00:49:51", "end": "00:49:56", "text": "has five new houses. I had no idea. Where did he suddenly get all that money from? Go ahead."}, {"start": "00:49:56", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "I'm just now Now I'm really curious because I think before we covered this, before this happened, they were also"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:08", "text": "fighting against an audit of the weapons we were sending and where they were going. And we saw that they were getting shipped in through Greece. Like I'm just"}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:14", "text": "curious what conflict is is upcoming that we haven't found out about yet that we're going to all of a sudden see all"}, {"start": "00:50:14", "end": "00:50:21", "text": "of these trafficked weapons a part of. Yeah, we know that's coming. Oh, of Well, maybe that's why Giuliani"}, {"start": "00:50:21", "end": "00:50:26", "text": "was in the White House today, so he could get all of this additional trafficked weapons into Ukraine. He can"}, {"start": "00:50:26", "end": "00:50:31", "text": "use it in Syria now to kill more Christians. So, maybe that's what'll happen. Um because it all comes full"}, {"start": "00:50:31", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "circle every time we all these weapons go missing. Guess what? Now they're suddenly in the hands of the cartel in Mexico that we need to bomb. So, that's"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:45", "text": "how all this works. All right. Well, we've got more news to get to here on your Monday. We're going to talk about"}, {"start": "00:50:45", "end": "00:50:50", "text": "the terrorist himself, Golani just arriving at the White House. They actually, it was hilarious. They brought"}, {"start": "00:50:50", "end": "00:50:57", "text": "him in through the back door. They were hoping like people wouldn't see it. They brought him through like the back door, back the back gate. But then like when"}, {"start": "00:50:57", "end": "00:51:03", "text": "he left, he was like out in the streets like like doing a parade. Like he just won an inauguration. He's walking down"}, {"start": "00:51:03", "end": "00:51:11", "text": "the streets and there's people lining the streets cheering him on. Like this is we're literally meeting with a former ISIS terrorist in the White House."}, {"start": "00:51:11", "end": "00:51:17", "text": "Okay. So what? like what the hell is happening? All right, fine by that. All right, we"}, {"start": "00:51:17", "end": "00:51:22", "text": "got more news. We're going to get to that in a second. Uh but first, you know, Fed just of course dropped"}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "interest rates again, saying the consumer slowdown is real. There are alarm bells going all over right now on"}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:35", "text": "this economy from the housing sector. We are in entering a recession on the housing sector. Those aren't my words."}, {"start": "00:51:35", "end": "00:51:42", "text": "Those are the words of Treasury Secretary Scott Besson, who says we're already in a recession in the housing sector. Um,"}, {"start": "00:51:42", "end": "00:51:48", "text": "we're also dealing with now, of course, a devaluation of the US dollar. We are dealing with sky-high prices across the"}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:55", "text": "board for food, for groceries, for just about everything. Obviously, rent is continuing to go up. So, people are"}, {"start": "00:51:55", "end": "00:52:03", "text": "suffering and there are significant problems right now on the consumer spending side. People are saying, \"Hey, I just don't have I don't have money to"}, {"start": "00:52:03", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "buy just about anything right now.\" Um, and this is about a further erosion of"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:13", "text": "the US dollar. So when I tell you about gold and silver, think like, \"Oh, but I"}, {"start": "00:52:13", "end": "00:52:19", "text": "don't have any money for any of that.\" It's about wealth preservation at this point. I I don't care that gold goes up."}, {"start": "00:52:19", "end": "00:52:24", "text": "I don't care that silver has gone up. For me, it's about making sure you're protecting what money maybe you do have"}, {"start": "00:52:24", "end": "00:52:30", "text": "in savings right now against this inflation, against this collapsing US dollar, against all of it. And that's"}, {"start": "00:52:30", "end": "00:52:36", "text": "where our friends at Lear Capital can help you. So again, I want you to give them a call. Just get on the phone with"}, {"start": "00:52:36", "end": "00:52:43", "text": "them. 1 8006133557 is the place to go or visit the website leerred redacted.com. That's the place"}, {"start": "00:52:43", "end": "00:52:48", "text": "to go and just have a conversation with them. Again, this is not like buying"}, {"start": "00:52:48", "end": "00:52:54", "text": "stocks or something else where you're like hoping it's going to skyrocket for me. Like if you've got $100 in US"}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:52:59", "text": "dollars, I'd want to convert it to a stable asset that is outside of all of"}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:06", "text": "this government corruption and government of printing of money. Again, it's wonderful that gold has gone up in"}, {"start": "00:53:06", "end": "00:53:12", "text": "value, but that's not why we invest in it. We do it simply for wealth preservation to protect ourselves. It's"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:17", "text": "sustained for 5,000 years. And I just want you to start thinking about it in those terms. You might be saying, \"I"}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:23", "text": "don't have any money for this.\" But if you've got money in savings or you've got an old 401k that's sitting there,"}, {"start": "00:53:23", "end": "00:53:29", "text": "can you convert it over to a precious metals self-directed IRA where you have checkbook control of it and Wall Street"}, {"start": "00:53:29", "end": "00:53:35", "text": "does not? So just protecting yourself in the same way that you would protect your house in the event of like an EMP attack"}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "or you know prepping to make sure you've got food on hand in your house like you"}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:46", "text": "do not want this to be devalued anymore. So give them a call. They're great friends of the show and I think it's"}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:52", "text": "really important to start thinking about doing this. 18006133557 to get your free guide. Have a"}, {"start": "00:53:52", "end": "00:53:59", "text": "conversation with them on the phone or just go to leerred redacted.com. And again, I think it's worth just having a"}, {"start": "00:53:59", "end": "00:54:05", "text": "conversation with them about what you can do to protect your family going forward as we head head into the what I"}, {"start": "00:54:05", "end": "00:54:11", "text": "think is a really really dark time right now on the consumer side and uh just"}, {"start": "00:54:11", "end": "00:54:17", "text": "just for people who are not rich, for people who are not incredibly wealthy, middle class or lower middle class who"}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:23", "text": "just want to protect the little savings that they do have. It's time is now to, you know, pay attention to all of this."}, {"start": "00:54:23", "end": "00:54:29", "text": "All right. What was happening here while we were flying around? All right. Well, President Trump is"}, {"start": "00:54:29", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "threatening to sue the BBC, which normally would not bother me because I hate all corporate media, but once you"}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:43", "text": "see that he's using it to run cover for Israel, you want to take a pause and be like, \"Wait, what is this? Is the BBC"}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:50", "text": "corrupt?\" Sure. Yeah. They were horrible during the pandemic. They have been selling the Ukraine war ad nauseium."}, {"start": "00:54:50", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "They have been unable to see who is actually killing people in Gaza. They're the worst. Absolutely. What the issue is"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:55:04", "text": "around Trump was a BBC documentary which was edited to make it sound like President Trump incited violence on"}, {"start": "00:55:04", "end": "00:55:10", "text": "January 6th, like he was actually calling for violence and then going forward. The way it was edited, sure,"}, {"start": "00:55:10", "end": "00:55:19", "text": "absolutely was dishonest. But now two senior executives have resigned and they"}, {"start": "00:55:19", "end": "00:55:25", "text": "are saying, \"Well, you know, we don't think there's bias, but it's time for us to go.\" And they're grappling with"}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:30", "text": "whether or not they might in fact have to contend with the lawsuit from the Trump administration. So, what does this"}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "have to do with Israel? Well, that's what I thought when I saw the Israeli em embassy in the UK release this"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:45", "text": "statement. Basically, they're saying they're glad that the two people at the BBC are gone because the BBC has been"}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:51", "text": "unfair to Israel. Ironically enough, I don't follow this account. It was"}, {"start": "00:55:51", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "surfaced to me in my X feed. Why do you think that is? It's a manipulation. If I"}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "don't follow them, but I'm being told I need to see this in the context of media"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:08", "text": "manipulation. Well, this became clearer when White House press secretary Carolyn"}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:13", "text": "Leit this weekend said this about the BBC and the way they cover Israel. And"}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "ask yourself while you watch this clip, why'd she have that print out at the ready to talk about the BBC? Watch."}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:26", "text": "Firing on Palestinians uh trying to get aid uh from the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation after 20 people, according to"}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:32", "text": "the Red Cross, have arrived uh to the hospital that they've set up with gunshot wounds uh have died from them."}, {"start": "00:56:32", "end": "00:56:39", "text": "Um, is this administration aware of these and I mean what is being done to address uh this this situation? The"}, {"start": "00:56:39", "end": "00:56:45", "text": "administration is aware of those reports and we are currently looking into the veracity of them because unfortunately"}, {"start": "00:56:45", "end": "00:56:51", "text": "unlike some in the media uh we don't take the word of Hamas with total truth."}, {"start": "00:56:51", "end": "00:56:57", "text": "We like to look into it when they speak. Unlike the BBC uh who had multiple"}, {"start": "00:56:57", "end": "00:57:03", "text": "headlines they wrote Israeli tank kills 26. Israeli tank kills 21. Israeli"}, {"start": "00:57:03", "end": "00:57:09", "text": "gunfire kills 31. Red Cross says 21 people were killed in an aid incident. And then oh wait, they had to correct"}, {"start": "00:57:09", "end": "00:57:17", "text": "and take down their entire story saying we reviewed the footage and couldn't find any evidence of anything. Oh, okay."}, {"start": "00:57:17", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "So, we're going to look into reports before we confirm them from this podium or before we take action. And I suggest"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:28", "text": "that journalists who actually care about truth do the same to reduce the amount of misinformation that's going around"}, {"start": "00:57:28", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "the globe on this front. John. Okay, that's false what she's saying. The"}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:39", "text": "article does remain online and those changed casualty numbers were updated."}, {"start": "00:57:39", "end": "00:57:45", "text": "And again, the US administration has plenty of proof that Israel has been"}, {"start": "00:57:45", "end": "00:57:50", "text": "targeting uh civilians at aid centers has since this summer. So, she says,"}, {"start": "00:57:50", "end": "00:57:57", "text": "\"Well, we'll look into it. When are we going to get to hear what they have to say if they're not going to trust the BBC?\" Now, the message from the White"}, {"start": "00:57:57", "end": "00:58:02", "text": "House seems to be, see, you can't trust anything from this report, not about"}, {"start": "00:58:02", "end": "00:58:08", "text": "Trump, not about Israel, can't trust him. So, by merging the BBC's alleged"}, {"start": "00:58:08", "end": "00:58:14", "text": "anti-Trump bias, which is real, with accusations of anti-Israel bias, which"}, {"start": "00:58:14", "end": "00:58:21", "text": "does not seem to me to be real, they create this clean narrative that the media is corrupt, the West's enemies are"}, {"start": "00:58:21", "end": "00:58:29", "text": "our enemies, and Trump, and by extension, Israel, is the victim of the same dishonest press. What that tells me"}, {"start": "00:58:29", "end": "00:58:35", "text": "is that there are other things the BBC has reported that the White House does not want to look at. For instance, this"}, {"start": "00:58:35", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "report over the late summer, which should have been global outrage, but was"}, {"start": "00:58:41", "end": "00:58:47", "text": "instead kind of downplayed, not kind of was downplayed about how the BBC saw"}, {"start": "00:58:47", "end": "00:58:54", "text": "just how many Palestinian children under 12 were killed with sniper bullets to"}, {"start": "00:58:54", "end": "00:58:59", "text": "the head and chest. This is not oops, they accidentally were blown up in"}, {"start": "00:58:59", "end": "00:59:04", "text": "attacks on Hamas. These are no children targeted. There's video that I'm"}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:10", "text": "choosing not to show you right now, but I linked to it in the newsletter and it's horrible. So, this is a detail"}, {"start": "00:59:10", "end": "00:59:17", "text": "again that should spark outrage, but now the White House is like, \"The BBC has media bias. We don't have to see this.\""}, {"start": "00:59:17", "end": "00:59:25", "text": "That's always been the brilliance though about when Trump yells fake news. He is right. There is a lot of fake news, but"}, {"start": "00:59:25", "end": "00:59:32", "text": "then he should not catch that blowback to frame the narrative because he hasn't"}, {"start": "00:59:32", "end": "00:59:38", "text": "earned the narrative of being a trutht teller. That's the game though. That's brilliant. Is make every criticism about"}, {"start": "00:59:38", "end": "00:59:44", "text": "the media until the real victims disappear. So let us know what you think"}, {"start": "00:59:44", "end": "00:59:50", "text": "about this move to discredit the BBC and by extension see they're just unfair to"}, {"start": "00:59:50", "end": "00:59:56", "text": "Israel. That's it's crazy, right? This is our own government running a propaganda"}, {"start": "00:59:56", "end": "01:00:02", "text": "protection campaign. And well, like Harrison, our chat, Harrison Buckard says, \"There it is. You have the"}, {"start": "01:00:02", "end": "01:00:07", "text": "photos. The world must know about this.\" Um, yeah, because then they play the Oh, but"}, {"start": "01:00:07", "end": "01:00:14", "text": "children are used to carry explosives, so we just shoot them in the head. Okay. Okay. Four-year-olds."}, {"start": "01:00:14", "end": "01:00:20", "text": "Okay. So, we just shoot children in the head, right? Okay. Sure. All right. Um, we've got more news to get to you. We're"}, {"start": "01:00:20", "end": "01:00:27", "text": "going to talk about a terrorist at the White House just meeting with President Trump a short time ago and um you know"}, {"start": "01:00:27", "end": "01:00:33", "text": "this is all part of a CIA MI6 plan to normalize this guy. You know when he was in US custody for 5 years like it's"}, {"start": "01:00:33", "end": "01:00:39", "text": "amazing. I'd be curious like what kind of fly onthe-wall conversations were being had at the time when MI6 and the CIA were basically"}, {"start": "01:00:39", "end": "01:00:44", "text": "trying to normalize this guy. Hey, we're going to let you out of prison, but eventually you are going to become the"}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:51", "text": "leader of Syria and you're going to work with us. You're going to be our puppet. This is how this whole thing is going to work. Okay. Okay. So, that's how this"}, {"start": "01:00:51", "end": "01:00:57", "text": "all is going to come together. We'll talk about um all of that in a moment, but first, did you know that the US life"}, {"start": "01:00:57", "end": "01:01:05", "text": "expectancy peaked at 78 years old back in 2014? Yeah, it's been going down ever since. Global life expectancy declining"}, {"start": "01:01:05", "end": "01:01:10", "text": "for the first time in 30 years because people are aging faster than ever before. This is due to more toxins in"}, {"start": "01:01:10", "end": "01:01:16", "text": "the air, chemicals in our soil, food, other external factors that are new to us. But what most people don't know is"}, {"start": "01:01:16", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "we can actually fight against it at the cellular level. Scientists discovered that kimchi actually slows the aging"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:28", "text": "process of human cells. It helps protect them, delay aging at the cellular level."}, {"start": "01:01:28", "end": "01:01:33", "text": "The power of nature can outweigh the power of pharmaceuticals without the nasty side effects. And by the way, you"}, {"start": "01:01:33", "end": "01:01:38", "text": "can get all of the benefits of kimchi. Like if you don't like the taste of kimchi, some people don't like fermented"}, {"start": "01:01:38", "end": "01:01:44", "text": "cabbage or whatever. I love it. I know Philip loves it, but some people are like, \"Yeah, I don't like that.\" Well,"}, {"start": "01:01:44", "end": "01:01:50", "text": "guess what? You get all of the benefits of kimchi in a simple capsule with our friends at Kimchi 1. Each capsule"}, {"start": "01:01:50", "end": "01:01:56", "text": "delivers over 900 probiotic strains, plus antioxidants and enzymes that"}, {"start": "01:01:56", "end": "01:02:02", "text": "support your digestion, your metabolism, and skin health from the inside out. As we age, we become more susceptible to"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:07", "text": "microbial threats. Kimchi 1 is a natural antimicrobial, helping your body fight"}, {"start": "01:02:07", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "off harmful bacteria, viruses, even toxins, while boosting immunity and energy. Best of all, Kimchi 1 is 100%"}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:21", "text": "made in the US, all natural, non-GMO. Support your gut, protect your cells, and feel younger every day with Kimchi 1"}, {"start": "01:02:21", "end": "01:02:26", "text": "from our friends at Brightitecore. So, right now, you can get an exclusive offer by clicking the link below,"}, {"start": "01:02:26", "end": "01:02:32", "text": "mybrightcore.com/redacted for 25% off your entire order. Or even"}, {"start": "01:02:32", "end": "01:02:39", "text": "better, call them. If you call them, you'll get 50% off. 50% off your order"}, {"start": "01:02:39", "end": "01:02:47", "text": "and free shipping. Give them a call right now at 888-44-6312 up to 50% off and free shipping. I take"}, {"start": "01:02:47", "end": "01:02:53", "text": "it every day as part of my supplements. I would not be able to live without it. So, thanks to Kimchi 1 and our friends"}, {"start": "01:02:53", "end": "01:03:01", "text": "at Breitcore for supporting the show. Well, today is the 250th birthday of the"}, {"start": "01:03:01", "end": "01:03:06", "text": "United States Marine Corps. Happy birthday, United States Marines. And what better way to celebrate all of"}, {"start": "01:03:06", "end": "01:03:13", "text": "their sacrifice than by inviting a wanted terrorist to the White House to meet with President Trump. Where where"}, {"start": "01:03:13", "end": "01:03:21", "text": "all the pro-Zionist pro-Israel shills who always warn us about Islamists infiltrating our country? Here he is."}, {"start": "01:03:21", "end": "01:03:27", "text": "Here's the $10,000$10 million reward for Golani. I don't see Ben Shapiro complaining"}, {"start": "01:03:27", "end": "01:03:33", "text": "about all of this. I don't see all the guys that are like, \"How can we allow these Islamists in our country? Hey,"}, {"start": "01:03:33", "end": "01:03:39", "text": "there there's cells all over the place right now, but we just invite one of them to the White House. Okay, I don't"}, {"start": "01:03:39", "end": "01:03:46", "text": "see Mark Levin complaining about it. Here's a guy who literally has a $10 million bounty on his head from our"}, {"start": "01:03:46", "end": "01:03:54", "text": "government for being a terrorist, killing Christians, Alawites, Drews, etc., children."}, {"start": "01:03:54", "end": "01:04:00", "text": "And he's at the White House because he's our new puppet leader of Syria. Representative Margie Marjgerie Taylor"}, {"start": "01:04:00", "end": "01:04:05", "text": "Green posted this short time ago. She said, \"The new leader of Syria is a former al-Qaeda terrorist wanted by our"}, {"start": "01:04:05", "end": "01:04:11", "text": "government, who is meeting with the president, President Trump today at the White House on the US Marines 250th"}, {"start": "01:04:11", "end": "01:04:18", "text": "anniversary. He rose to power in December 2024. Sanctions were lifted off of Syria in June, and many Christians"}, {"start": "01:04:18", "end": "01:04:24", "text": "and minority groups have been killed before and after sanctions were lifted. Syria is the oldest home of Christianity"}, {"start": "01:04:24", "end": "01:04:29", "text": "outside of Israel. The Apostle Paul met Jesus on the road to Damascus. I pray"}, {"start": "01:04:29", "end": "01:04:37", "text": "the persecution ends not only in Syria but all around the world. Now look at this. He he arrived by the back door of"}, {"start": "01:04:37", "end": "01:04:43", "text": "the White House. They wouldn't even bring him in the front. So they like they arrived by the back door of the White House and some cameras were able"}, {"start": "01:04:43", "end": "01:04:49", "text": "to capture him getting out of the SUV there. But normally he would come in the front. They would have like the color"}, {"start": "01:04:49", "end": "01:04:54", "text": "guard would be welcoming him, praising him. Maybe there even be some music"}, {"start": "01:04:54", "end": "01:05:00", "text": "playing. Nothing. They brought him in through the back door like a little rat."}, {"start": "01:05:00", "end": "01:05:07", "text": "Then when then when he's inside meeting with Congressman Brian Mast and others, here's some photos inside."}, {"start": "01:05:07", "end": "01:05:14", "text": "Congressman Brian Mast, who you may recall, of course, formerly wearing an IDF shirt,"}, {"start": "01:05:14", "end": "01:05:20", "text": "walking around the halls of Congress and an Israeli IDF shirt. Friend of the show, Kavor Almasian, one of the great"}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:26", "text": "journalists in the world, uh, posted this a short time ago. If you still can't see what's happening between"}, {"start": "01:05:26", "end": "01:05:31", "text": "Gelani and the US and Israel after this photo shoot with Brian Mass, then honestly, even God himself won't be able"}, {"start": "01:05:31", "end": "01:05:39", "text": "to save you. It's right about that. We invited Syrian journalist Kavor Almasian"}, {"start": "01:05:39", "end": "01:05:45", "text": "on the show to talk about all of this. Kavor, great to see you as always, my friend. Thank you so much for having me,"}, {"start": "01:05:45", "end": "01:05:51", "text": "Clayton. This is a really dark day. I mean espec you know just just on the one hand on"}, {"start": "01:05:51", "end": "01:05:57", "text": "the 250th anniversary of the US Marines and and and and US soldiers who"}, {"start": "01:05:57", "end": "01:06:04", "text": "sacrificed their lives who were sold a bill of goods about why they were going to fight these guys in the Middle East"}, {"start": "01:06:04", "end": "01:06:09", "text": "and here were welcoming one of their leaders right into the White House to you know get some nice food and and hang"}, {"start": "01:06:09", "end": "01:06:15", "text": "out with the president of the United States. It's a really dark day."}, {"start": "01:06:15", "end": "01:06:21", "text": "Well, Clayton, I have friends in the United States who served in Iraq twice uh under the banner of fighting against"}, {"start": "01:06:21", "end": "01:06:28", "text": "terrorism. They went into Afghanistan. They came back physically and mentally injured. They are still suffering from"}, {"start": "01:06:28", "end": "01:06:33", "text": "PTSD and I can see their activism nowadays on social media platforms and"}, {"start": "01:06:33", "end": "01:06:40", "text": "uh I don't want to put myself in their shoes but if I were in their shoes I would feel betrayed by the officials and"}, {"start": "01:06:40", "end": "01:06:46", "text": "the politicians and the planners in the United States because from the early days of the war against Syria and why I"}, {"start": "01:06:46", "end": "01:06:53", "text": "call it a war against Syria because this was an orchestrated and engineered CIA regime change war against Syria and in"}, {"start": "01:06:53", "end": "01:07:00", "text": "2012 it was quite clear from the image of Hillary Clinton when Jake Sullivan sent an email to Hillary Clinton saying"}, {"start": "01:07:00", "end": "01:07:06", "text": "al-Qaeda is on our side in Syria and then the Defense Intelligence Agency of the United States sent a report to"}, {"start": "01:07:06", "end": "01:07:13", "text": "Barack Obama telling him that the driving force behind the insurgency against Assad are al-Qaeda in Iraq are"}, {"start": "01:07:13", "end": "01:07:19", "text": "the jihadist the Salafis and the Muslim Brotherhood and knowing that Obama put his signature on operation timber"}, {"start": "01:07:19", "end": "01:07:24", "text": "sikimmer meaning he gave the permission for the CIA to arm and train this"}, {"start": "01:07:24", "end": "01:07:32", "text": "multinational tech jihadists in the country and the outcome of this regime change war was basically that Golani who"}, {"start": "01:07:32", "end": "01:07:39", "text": "was the founder of the al-qaeda offshoot in Syria is now the de facto president of the country but he selected himself"}, {"start": "01:07:39", "end": "01:07:45", "text": "or probably the CIA and the MIC selected him to lead this um uh the transitional"}, {"start": "01:07:45", "end": "01:07:51", "text": "period in the country because they needed someone who could do few things. One of which is to strike strategic"}, {"start": "01:07:51", "end": "01:07:58", "text": "agreements and with neighboring countries, especially with Israel, meaning that he wants to give up on the"}, {"start": "01:07:58", "end": "01:08:03", "text": "Golan Heights and on Mount Hermon uh in those areas Syrian territories for"}, {"start": "01:08:03", "end": "01:08:09", "text": "Israel in exchange for a security deal with the Israelis. He will also open the markets of course for all the"}, {"start": "01:08:09", "end": "01:08:18", "text": "multinational corporations and he will get a loan from the IMF. Today also he met with the head of the IMF and"}, {"start": "01:08:18", "end": "01:08:23", "text": "accordingly this means that the Syrian economy will turn into a privatized"}, {"start": "01:08:23", "end": "01:08:30", "text": "franchise for the multinational corporations and these loans that they will give to Syria which means after"}, {"start": "01:08:30", "end": "01:08:37", "text": "Golani whoever comes the Syrian economy will be hostage for these loans and Syria will be forever in depth and that"}, {"start": "01:08:37", "end": "01:08:42", "text": "means whoever comes next will continue revolving in the orbit of the planners"}, {"start": "01:08:42", "end": "01:08:48", "text": "in the United states. This is a great point because I mean this is very similar what's happening in Ukraine, right? So Ukraine is now a"}, {"start": "01:08:48", "end": "01:08:55", "text": "vassal state. I mean all of these multinational corporations basically own Ukraine, right? No one really owns you."}, {"start": "01:08:55", "end": "01:09:01", "text": "The Ukrainian people don't own that country anymore. It's been sold off as part of all of these IMF loans, World"}, {"start": "01:09:01", "end": "01:09:06", "text": "Bank loans, etc. They will forever be indebted to these multinationals. We'll"}, {"start": "01:09:06", "end": "01:09:11", "text": "give you minerals, etc., etc., for for the rest of eternity. I we just I think"}, {"start": "01:09:11", "end": "01:09:17", "text": "the United Kingdom just paid off their loans to the United States for our involvement in World War II. Like that's"}, {"start": "01:09:17", "end": "01:09:23", "text": "how long it took to pay back these monies. So this this this turns Syria"}, {"start": "01:09:23", "end": "01:09:28", "text": "basically into into what in into like a vassal"}, {"start": "01:09:28", "end": "01:09:34", "text": "state of these multinational corporations who just will have mineral rights to Syria basically."}, {"start": "01:09:34", "end": "01:09:39", "text": "Just for context, uh just one year before the war, Civia had $7 billion uh"}, {"start": "01:09:39", "end": "01:09:46", "text": "external debt. That was around 12% of the total GDP, which was around 60 billion USD. But most of this debt was"}, {"start": "01:09:46", "end": "01:09:53", "text": "from the days of the Soviet Union. And nobody was asking Syria to pay this debt. So uh practically Syria had zero"}, {"start": "01:09:53", "end": "01:09:58", "text": "foreign debt to the outside world. And that was really problematic in the region because the Syria's GDP was"}, {"start": "01:09:58", "end": "01:10:05", "text": "increasing exponentially uh during the 20 2005 and 2010 and its economy was"}, {"start": "01:10:05", "end": "01:10:11", "text": "growing but based on a national economy which means the Syrians were working and Syrians were producing and Syrians were"}, {"start": "01:10:11", "end": "01:10:18", "text": "exporting but in the globalized world nowadays especially that it is not allowed any longer for countries to"}, {"start": "01:10:18", "end": "01:10:24", "text": "enjoy certain level of sovereignty especially on their economic uh sector. This meant that they had to destroy the"}, {"start": "01:10:24", "end": "01:10:30", "text": "Syrian economy and suck the country dry. And now the corporations take over the reconstruction of the country. You're"}, {"start": "01:10:30", "end": "01:10:36", "text": "talking about 200 to 300 billion dollar investments in the country. And that's"}, {"start": "01:10:36", "end": "01:10:42", "text": "why one of the conditions that the US and Britain were telling to Golani that"}, {"start": "01:10:42", "end": "01:10:47", "text": "he cannot allow for the Chinese companies to come to Syria and one of which are the telecommunication uh"}, {"start": "01:10:47", "end": "01:10:52", "text": "companies, right? And the other thing is that the Americans are going to establish bases in the country. Now they"}, {"start": "01:10:52", "end": "01:10:59", "text": "have agreed to build or to have a military presence in Damascus because the Americans want to follow up on a"}, {"start": "01:10:59", "end": "01:11:07", "text": "potential anticipated security deal with Israel. Now this is very important point Clayton because I've seen for example"}, {"start": "01:11:07", "end": "01:11:14", "text": "Laura Laura Loomer was uh showing some anger that Donald Trump received Golani"}, {"start": "01:11:14", "end": "01:11:19", "text": "and I think this is a very fake outrage because if had they had they Thank you for Thank you for saying that"}, {"start": "01:11:19", "end": "01:11:26", "text": "by the way cuz I saw her saying this. She's like, I'm upset this terrorist coming to the, you know, this guy Gelani's coming to the White House. But"}, {"start": "01:11:26", "end": "01:11:31", "text": "it's Yeah. Why do you think it's fake? Because because first of all, she"}, {"start": "01:11:31", "end": "01:11:36", "text": "doesn't mention at all the direct role of Natanyahu and his government in"}, {"start": "01:11:36", "end": "01:11:41", "text": "overthrowing the previous regime in Syria and allowing Golani to come and"}, {"start": "01:11:41", "end": "01:11:46", "text": "take over Damascus. Golani basically uh cruised from Aleppo to Damascus 400"}, {"start": "01:11:46", "end": "01:11:52", "text": "kilometers on the highway and nobody stopped him. Meanwhile, all the air forces were in the skies of Syria. If"}, {"start": "01:11:52", "end": "01:11:58", "text": "Israel wanted to eliminate Golani, if Israel saw Golani a threat to its"}, {"start": "01:11:58", "end": "01:12:03", "text": "national security, they would have eliminated him. Remember in the past two years, they killed the entire leadership"}, {"start": "01:12:03", "end": "01:12:11", "text": "of Hezbollah because they presented and posed a threat to Israel. They killed the leadership of Hamas even inside Iran"}, {"start": "01:12:11", "end": "01:12:16", "text": "because they posed a threat for Israel. But they don't see Golani as a threat"}, {"start": "01:12:16", "end": "01:12:21", "text": "because from the beginning whatever happened in the BUA camp in Iraq. This"}, {"start": "01:12:21", "end": "01:12:26", "text": "is a very big question mark because nowadays the former head of CIA who is"}, {"start": "01:12:26", "end": "01:12:31", "text": "leading the Sencom nowadays he's playing basketball with Jolani in Damascus but"}, {"start": "01:12:31", "end": "01:12:37", "text": "Jolani ended up in the same Buka camp in Iraq when the head of San Sencom back"}, {"start": "01:12:37", "end": "01:12:44", "text": "then was the head of the CIA. So there are lots of questions if they groomed Golani in Iraq and then they sent him to"}, {"start": "01:12:44", "end": "01:12:50", "text": "Syria to lead this insurgency against Assad because from the beginning I mean Clayton who is going to fight against"}, {"start": "01:12:50", "end": "01:12:55", "text": "the secular regime? Do you think the leftist will say uh oh I'm going to wear"}, {"start": "01:12:55", "end": "01:13:01", "text": "a suicide vest for Marx or for Lenin or some secular person is going to drive a"}, {"start": "01:13:01", "end": "01:13:07", "text": "suicide car or car bomb and blow up itself. No, those are the takiv jihadists who will carry out this type"}, {"start": "01:13:07", "end": "01:13:15", "text": "of fighting against a secular regime because they see it an infidel regime. So they took the opportunity and in the"}, {"start": "01:13:15", "end": "01:13:21", "text": "words of Hillary Clinton, if you remember, she said about the Afghanistan war, we had a brilliant idea and that"}, {"start": "01:13:21", "end": "01:13:27", "text": "idea was arming these jihadists back then in Afghanistan. So they copied the same strategy in Syria. They armed these"}, {"start": "01:13:27", "end": "01:13:33", "text": "jihadists and now they reach to power and once they reach to power they showing goodwill to the US to their"}, {"start": "01:13:33", "end": "01:13:40", "text": "basically handlers in the US and in Israel. But there is one small in my opinion disagreement or there is a rift"}, {"start": "01:13:40", "end": "01:13:46", "text": "it seems in the US administration nowadays how to deal with Golani in the future. Some voices in the US"}, {"start": "01:13:46", "end": "01:13:52", "text": "administration like Tombavak continue saying that everything should be in the hands of Golani. one centralized regime."}, {"start": "01:13:52", "end": "01:13:59", "text": "Golani controls everything and this this is the wish of Qatar, Turkey and Saudi Arabia. But Israel has a different"}, {"start": "01:13:59", "end": "01:14:05", "text": "approach. Israel wants for Golani to continue leading certain parts of Syria"}, {"start": "01:14:05", "end": "01:14:11", "text": "and those are in Aleppo, Idlib, Hammers and Damascus. But beyond Damascus in the"}, {"start": "01:14:11", "end": "01:14:17", "text": "south, they want a demilitarized zone so Golani cannot move his forces to the south of Damascus. and they want to"}, {"start": "01:14:17", "end": "01:14:22", "text": "present themselves as the protector of the minorities in Syria after Golani"}, {"start": "01:14:22", "end": "01:14:30", "text": "unleashed his genocidal army against the minorities and that's why uh Laura Loomer was in Israel meeting with"}, {"start": "01:14:30", "end": "01:14:39", "text": "minority groups in Israel and saying that we cannot leave with Golani because in the strategic thinking of Israel they"}, {"start": "01:14:39", "end": "01:14:44", "text": "want for Golani to control the Sunni dominated regions but the regions which"}, {"start": "01:14:44", "end": "01:14:52", "text": "are not dominated by the Sunnis, they want to have certain leverage over them and especially over Asa where the Dus"}, {"start": "01:14:52", "end": "01:14:57", "text": "live and in the eastern sh of the Euphrates where the Kurds live and also over the Alawites. So Laura Loomer"}, {"start": "01:14:57", "end": "01:15:03", "text": "basically is doing Israel's job nowadays in Israel and she she didn't go to Syria and ask what the Syrian people want. She"}, {"start": "01:15:03", "end": "01:15:09", "text": "went to Israel reporting about the Golani meeting with with Trump. And I"}, {"start": "01:15:09", "end": "01:15:15", "text": "find that really dishonest by her because uh had if she was honest, she"}, {"start": "01:15:15", "end": "01:15:22", "text": "should mention for example that the soldiers and the militants of the Golani army, they used to go to Israel and"}, {"start": "01:15:22", "end": "01:15:29", "text": "receive medical treatment in the Israeli field hospitals. and the former head of Mossad confessed that on Al Jazzer that"}, {"start": "01:15:29", "end": "01:15:35", "text": "yes, we receive them and we give them medical treatment out of humanitarian reasons, right? Because he says that"}, {"start": "01:15:35", "end": "01:15:42", "text": "al-Qaeda has never attacked Israel in the past. And I'm not asking I'm not calling at all for violence or calling"}, {"start": "01:15:42", "end": "01:15:49", "text": "for al-Qaeda attack against Israel, but it's a question mark, right? Al-Qaeda attacked everyone in the region except"}, {"start": "01:15:49", "end": "01:15:54", "text": "for Israel. Why is that? What? That's a big question mark. Why al-Qaeda never"}, {"start": "01:15:54", "end": "01:16:00", "text": "attack? And I'm not calling for attack so nobody would understand me wrong. No, no, but you bring up a great point. And one of the questions I had was"}, {"start": "01:16:00", "end": "01:16:07", "text": "really is why do you think that none of the pro-Israel voices, the neocon pro-Israel voices, um the same people"}, {"start": "01:16:07", "end": "01:16:13", "text": "who lecture us daily about, you know, Islamic terrorists invading the United States like haven't said a word about"}, {"start": "01:16:13", "end": "01:16:18", "text": "this. They seem to be pretty quiet about this. And yet when we call, you know, we're calling out Christian, I mean,"}, {"start": "01:16:18", "end": "01:16:25", "text": "you're you're from you you you're born in Syria. you're a Christian, as we talked about in the intro, one of the"}, {"start": "01:16:25", "end": "01:16:30", "text": "one of the strongest Christian countries in the world until it's overrun by uh,"}, {"start": "01:16:30", "end": "01:16:36", "text": "you know, by people killing Christians and Alawites and Drews and everything else. So, why have they been so quiet on"}, {"start": "01:16:36", "end": "01:16:43", "text": "this point, do you think, Clayton? I've been thinking about this for a long time. I've been thinking and"}, {"start": "01:16:43", "end": "01:16:49", "text": "I was really all the time shocked why American politicians, European"}, {"start": "01:16:49", "end": "01:16:56", "text": "politicians stood on the wrong side in Syria. I was always asking myself, where is the Vatican for example? Where are"}, {"start": "01:16:56", "end": "01:17:01", "text": "the churches in the world? Why aren't they saying something about this? Where are the leaders in the US? And I come to"}, {"start": "01:17:01", "end": "01:17:09", "text": "the realization that they are anti-Christian forces. There are anti-Christian forces. they are"}, {"start": "01:17:09", "end": "01:17:14", "text": "planning on eliminating the Christian presence in uh the Middle East,"}, {"start": "01:17:14", "end": "01:17:21", "text": "especially that those Christians do not align with the Christian Zionism, the ideology that they have created among"}, {"start": "01:17:21", "end": "01:17:28", "text": "the evangelicals in the United States in order to sell the illusion that there is this Judeo-Christian alliance and that"}, {"start": "01:17:28", "end": "01:17:33", "text": "we have to stand with the state of Israel for us to be blessed like for for"}, {"start": "01:17:33", "end": "01:17:38", "text": "God to accept us, we have to bless Netanyahu, we have to bless Bengavir And"}, {"start": "01:17:38", "end": "01:17:44", "text": "that's a heresy. That's a wrong perception of Christianity. So they ethnically cleansed basically 90% of the"}, {"start": "01:17:44", "end": "01:17:51", "text": "Christians in Iraq and in Syria and also from Palestine. And they are um"}, {"start": "01:17:51", "end": "01:17:57", "text": "normalizing the Christian Zionism among also whoever is left in in Syria because"}, {"start": "01:17:57", "end": "01:18:03", "text": "these people nowadays are very vulnerable and they need anyone to come and save them. Imagine that Golani"}, {"start": "01:18:03", "end": "01:18:10", "text": "attacks a town and this town is a Christian town and he's capable of completely genociding them. And then"}, {"start": "01:18:10", "end": "01:18:16", "text": "Israel comes and says, \"I'm your savior. I'm going to protect you.\" And at gunpoint, many people choose to be with"}, {"start": "01:18:16", "end": "01:18:22", "text": "Israel. And this is what happened. Including buying many influencers. I know it myself because I was approached"}, {"start": "01:18:22", "end": "01:18:29", "text": "by an Israeli who claims to be a private person after the regime change happened. And he said, \"Look, the regime change is"}, {"start": "01:18:29", "end": "01:18:36", "text": "done. You were fighting to keep this regime and this regime is gone and we have now a mutual enemy. Let's cooperate"}, {"start": "01:18:36", "end": "01:18:43", "text": "and we will support your work on Syria analysis and you will become very influential on social media platforms."}, {"start": "01:18:43", "end": "01:18:49", "text": "They offered me personally. So, and I Israel came to you and said now"}, {"start": "01:18:49", "end": "01:18:55", "text": "Israeli Israeli person came to me and he said that he is a very rich Israeli person who has a lots of companies and"}, {"start": "01:18:55", "end": "01:19:02", "text": "he offered me support for my channel Sana analysis to to support Golani."}, {"start": "01:19:02", "end": "01:19:07", "text": "No to to support the idea that Israel"}, {"start": "01:19:07", "end": "01:19:14", "text": "has to be the protector of the minorities in Syria. so that I would be normalizing Israel presenting itself as"}, {"start": "01:19:14", "end": "01:19:19", "text": "protector of the minorities in Syria because I'm I'm influential on X and I"}, {"start": "01:19:19", "end": "01:19:24", "text": "have a big following and many Syrian Christians for example also uh watch my"}, {"start": "01:19:24", "end": "01:19:30", "text": "content and follow what I write on X. So they wanted to capitalize and invest in my work. So, in other words, as an"}, {"start": "01:19:30", "end": "01:19:37", "text": "Orthodox Christian, maybe we should convert to a form of sort of Christian Zionism now because Israel is my"}, {"start": "01:19:37", "end": "01:19:42", "text": "protector. And here's Kavor out on social media. He's really pushing this idea. You know, maybe maybe I should"}, {"start": "01:19:42", "end": "01:19:49", "text": "start to think about supporting Christian Zionism. Like, it's unbelievable. I was invited to Israel by him. He said,"}, {"start": "01:19:49", "end": "01:19:55", "text": "\"When you come to Israel, you will see that uh the situation is not like you think it is.\" And I know he says that"}, {"start": "01:19:55", "end": "01:20:01", "text": "you you're not an anti-semite. So we would accept you. So the only thing that"}, {"start": "01:20:01", "end": "01:20:07", "text": "he wants is to tone down my criticism of Israel. And my criticism of Israel comes"}, {"start": "01:20:07", "end": "01:20:13", "text": "based on my perception that Israel is wrong on collectively punishing everyone"}, {"start": "01:20:13", "end": "01:20:19", "text": "for October 7, for example, in Gaza, despite my differences and disagreements with many of the groups fighting against"}, {"start": "01:20:19", "end": "01:20:25", "text": "Israel. And I think that the the trigger for the regime change worry in Syria was"}, {"start": "01:20:25", "end": "01:20:33", "text": "not by by the US itself, but by the neocons and the Zionists in the United States convincing the planners in the US"}, {"start": "01:20:33", "end": "01:20:38", "text": "that this regime change war has to happen and then we have to balconize the"}, {"start": "01:20:38", "end": "01:20:43", "text": "country um I mean Syria and this is what is happening ongoing uh as we speak"}, {"start": "01:20:43", "end": "01:20:49", "text": "nowadays. I asked many people including um a former Marine veteran uh who is"}, {"start": "01:20:49", "end": "01:20:56", "text": "also a regular guest on your channel Scott Scott for example. He says I can't think of anything else but Israel."}, {"start": "01:20:56", "end": "01:21:01", "text": "Israel is the reason why they started this war because Syria uh posed a a"}, {"start": "01:21:01", "end": "01:21:07", "text": "threat for the dominance of Israel in the region and it was um aligning itself"}, {"start": "01:21:07", "end": "01:21:14", "text": "with Iran and other actors in the region who used to pose economic and security threat and or challenge let's say for"}, {"start": "01:21:14", "end": "01:21:22", "text": "the absolute Israeli dominance over the region. But once the regime change war happened, I think now the region is"}, {"start": "01:21:22", "end": "01:21:28", "text": "mostly revolving around Israel and everybody is running after normalizing ties with Israel. It's the Abraham"}, {"start": "01:21:28", "end": "01:21:34", "text": "Accords and it's only a matter of time until Golani also joins the Abraham Accords. But there are steps you know"}, {"start": "01:21:34", "end": "01:21:41", "text": "they have to first strike a security deal and then you will see for example do you really does anyone in the United"}, {"start": "01:21:41", "end": "01:21:47", "text": "States thinks that um this uh congressman who received Golani his name"}, {"start": "01:21:47", "end": "01:21:54", "text": "is Brian Mast like Brian Mast is is not even is beyond Israel first right he he"}, {"start": "01:21:54", "end": "01:22:02", "text": "wears an IDF uniform inside Congress like is there anyone who thinks that Israel would object the visit of Golani"}, {"start": "01:22:02", "end": "01:22:08", "text": "to the United dates and if the Israelis objected his visit to the United States, would Brian Mass receive him? That's"}, {"start": "01:22:08", "end": "01:22:14", "text": "impossible. So, I think Golani has already presented his cards that he's"}, {"start": "01:22:14", "end": "01:22:22", "text": "ready to join the Abraham Accords and it's only a matter of time until Syria becomes its entirety revolving under the"}, {"start": "01:22:22", "end": "01:22:29", "text": "American umbrella. And this was unfortunately um an outcome that many people wanted to"}, {"start": "01:22:29", "end": "01:22:34", "text": "avoid. Not that we don't want relationship with the United in the contrary but we want friendly"}, {"start": "01:22:34", "end": "01:22:40", "text": "relationship with the United States and not the master and slave relationship. You know we wanted to preserve the"}, {"start": "01:22:40", "end": "01:22:46", "text": "sovereignty of the United States and keep good relationship with the US and with the other other regional and"}, {"start": "01:22:46", "end": "01:22:53", "text": "international powers. We don't have any problem with the United States. United States is 10,000 kilometer away from us."}, {"start": "01:22:53", "end": "01:23:00", "text": "People think that the the the Middle Eastern people hate the United States. No. I grew up on American pop music, on"}, {"start": "01:23:00", "end": "01:23:06", "text": "hip-hop music. I watched Hollywood movies. I have never had any bad sentiments toward American culture,"}, {"start": "01:23:06", "end": "01:23:12", "text": "American products, right? But we wanted to preserve our dignity. We wanted to"}, {"start": "01:23:12", "end": "01:23:19", "text": "stay in our homes. We wanted to preserve our national economy and everything is gone nowadays. So um unfortunately it's"}, {"start": "01:23:19", "end": "01:23:25", "text": "like the WF when they say you will own nothing and you will be happy and you will see all these people celebrating in"}, {"start": "01:23:25", "end": "01:23:31", "text": "the streets the demise of their nation. It's unfortunate truth but they have propagandized the people so much that"}, {"start": "01:23:31", "end": "01:23:36", "text": "they think now they are free but uh I think that they have put the chain in"}, {"start": "01:23:36", "end": "01:23:41", "text": "the neck of Golani and Syria especially with this IMF now deal and whoever comes"}, {"start": "01:23:41", "end": "01:23:48", "text": "next in Syria they will be forever in depth and that's the economic hitman uh playbook."}, {"start": "01:23:48", "end": "01:23:54", "text": "What does this mean? I'll get you out of here on this, Kavor. What does this mean for the the so-called war on terror? I"}, {"start": "01:23:54", "end": "01:23:59", "text": "mean, was it ever was it ever about fighting terrorism at all? I mean, when"}, {"start": "01:23:59", "end": "01:24:08", "text": "we have a terrorist literally meeting with President Trump this afternoon and all the sacrifice of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, or was the idea of"}, {"start": "01:24:08", "end": "01:24:15", "text": "fighting the war on terror just an idea just for weaponizing it for the United States and Israeli interests, wiping out"}, {"start": "01:24:15", "end": "01:24:20", "text": "world leaders, regime change? What does it mean? It was a great opportunity and an excuse"}, {"start": "01:24:20", "end": "01:24:26", "text": "for the US and the Zionist, the neocons in the US to expand their influence in"}, {"start": "01:24:26", "end": "01:24:31", "text": "different places around the world. one of which is in central Asia because they wanted to establish a base in"}, {"start": "01:24:31", "end": "01:24:37", "text": "Afghanistan and then they moved into Iraq, Syria and they wanted to knock out Iran as well. So they wanted to"}, {"start": "01:24:37", "end": "01:24:42", "text": "establish an absolute hegemony over the region and and this is a very vital"}, {"start": "01:24:42", "end": "01:24:47", "text": "region energy trade routes etc. And I think uh the war on terror I don't think"}, {"start": "01:24:47", "end": "01:24:53", "text": "that most of the people who joined al-Qaeda were assets for the CIA or any"}, {"start": "01:24:53", "end": "01:24:58", "text": "other planners in the US. They thought really that they're fighting against the US. But on the leadership level, for"}, {"start": "01:24:58", "end": "01:25:04", "text": "example, the Golani, Baghdadi, Osama bin Laden, like it makes no sense. Like one"}, {"start": "01:25:04", "end": "01:25:10", "text": "of the very close trustees of Usama bin Laden, his name is Ahmed Zan and they"}, {"start": "01:25:10", "end": "01:25:16", "text": "used to have pictures together in Tora Bora in Afghanistan. Now he's the adviser of Jolani and Jolani was the"}, {"start": "01:25:16", "end": "01:25:23", "text": "leader of al-Qaeda. It's like it's like I'm watching a dystopian movie. I'm watching a dystopian movie and"}, {"start": "01:25:23", "end": "01:25:30", "text": "unfortunately it makes a mockery of uh this uh war on terror in how quiet everyone is. Everyone"}, {"start": "01:25:30", "end": "01:25:37", "text": "flipped out about Mami becoming the new mayor of New York, you know, mayor of New York City. And I saw all I saw all"}, {"start": "01:25:37", "end": "01:25:43", "text": "of these like mega influencers all saying this is the biggest slap in the face to the families of 9/11, victims of"}, {"start": "01:25:43", "end": "01:25:48", "text": "9/11, etc., etc. But they're quiet when there's literally a terrorist meeting at"}, {"start": "01:25:48", "end": "01:25:53", "text": "the White House with President Trump. They're totally quiet about that. There is something important about Madam"}, {"start": "01:25:53", "end": "01:26:01", "text": "Dani. By the way, Mamani um is a very liberal person. He's not even an Islamist, right? He goes into the LGBT"}, {"start": "01:26:01", "end": "01:26:07", "text": "demonstrations. His wife is a Syrian and she supported this regime change"}, {"start": "01:26:07", "end": "01:26:13", "text": "operation in Syria. And once the regime change happened and the spree of killing started against the minorities, now"}, {"start": "01:26:13", "end": "01:26:20", "text": "she's silent about it. Why is that? Why are they silent about all this killing happening in Syria once the regime"}, {"start": "01:26:20", "end": "01:26:26", "text": "change happened? But you're also right about the Zionists freaking out about Mamani. It's it's a joke. Why would they"}, {"start": "01:26:26", "end": "01:26:33", "text": "be afraid of Mani and and and not by Golani? Golani is the is a mastermind"}, {"start": "01:26:33", "end": "01:26:39", "text": "behind car bombs in Iraq. This guy has been planning uh and constructing car"}, {"start": "01:26:39", "end": "01:26:45", "text": "bombs and sending them into Shia neighborhoods in in Iraq in order to start a civil war. He has a lots of"}, {"start": "01:26:45", "end": "01:26:51", "text": "blood on his hands. He's soaked in in in blood. But I feel really sad because I'm"}, {"start": "01:26:51", "end": "01:26:58", "text": "Syrian. Seeing Golani is a representative of my country and meeting with uh with Trump and unfortunately"}, {"start": "01:26:58", "end": "01:27:05", "text": "this meeting will embolden his grip in the country and only the people in Syria will pay the price. But Trump seems"}, {"start": "01:27:05", "end": "01:27:12", "text": "doesn't care about that. And whoever is advising him, they think that they can keep Golani on a leash."}, {"start": "01:27:12", "end": "01:27:18", "text": "I'm trying to I'm trying to think what it would be like in the United States. What would be a comparable person to ascend to the"}, {"start": "01:27:18", "end": "01:27:24", "text": "presidency that you have that you have in Syria? You have a terrorist as the pre, you know, I would think like maybe"}, {"start": "01:27:24", "end": "01:27:29", "text": "like Mike Pompeo or I was thinking like somebody somebody evil who kills people"}, {"start": "01:27:29", "end": "01:27:36", "text": "for a living, you know. I I don't know. Timothy McVey, right? Um I I don't know. It's it's just"}, {"start": "01:27:36", "end": "01:27:42", "text": "awful. I just no wonder they those people in the US those people in the US they just they just have big"}, {"start": "01:27:42", "end": "01:27:49", "text": "mouses my friend like they give orders to other people to kill. Golani himself killed people. This guy was on the"}, {"start": "01:27:49", "end": "01:27:54", "text": "ground and committing heinous heinous acts and now he's acting like he's a"}, {"start": "01:27:54", "end": "01:28:01", "text": "civilized person wearing nice uh watches and uh wearing suits and and he and he ran on"}, {"start": "01:28:01", "end": "01:28:07", "text": "the platform of saying he said dear Mujahedin after Damascus we are marching"}, {"start": "01:28:07", "end": "01:28:14", "text": "to Jerusalem and we're going to liberate Palestine. And once he reached to to Damascus he went to the White House to"}, {"start": "01:28:14", "end": "01:28:19", "text": "meet with Donald Trump. They're like, \"You're not going into pal. You're not going into Palestine anywhere.\" No, no,"}, {"start": "01:28:19", "end": "01:28:25", "text": "no. You're our puppet. You're our puppet. Uh boy. Uh Kavor, great to see you as"}, {"start": "01:28:25", "end": "01:28:31", "text": "always. Thank you for your analysis as usual. And um yeah, it just it deeply"}, {"start": "01:28:31", "end": "01:28:37", "text": "deeply disturbing. There's no one I'd rather talk to about this. So, thank you so much as always. Great to see you, Kavavor. Thanks for staying up late for"}, {"start": "01:28:37", "end": "01:28:42", "text": "us over there. We appreciate it. Thank you so much, Clayton and Natalie. Just quick thing. Kimchi is great, by"}, {"start": "01:28:42", "end": "01:28:48", "text": "the way. It's great for the gut health and most of the diseases comes from the gut. So if you eat kimchi, we eat it a"}, {"start": "01:28:48", "end": "01:28:54", "text": "lot here in Germany. Your gut will be so much better. You I know. And and Kavor is quite a"}, {"start": "01:28:54", "end": "01:29:00", "text": "health nut by the way as well. So he Great to see you, Kavor. Thanks so much. Stay safe, my friend."}, {"start": "01:29:00", "end": "01:29:05", "text": "Thank you so much, my friend. You, too. All right. What do you guys think about that? It's crazy. I mean, how do you"}, {"start": "01:29:05", "end": "01:29:11", "text": "guys have a guy like this in the White House? Um, and you know, it's I just"}, {"start": "01:29:11", "end": "01:29:18", "text": "love the silence that you're hearing from like the Zionists. They're just like totally silent silent about this. Why? Because he's a puppet of he's a"}, {"start": "01:29:18", "end": "01:29:24", "text": "puppet of Israel and he's a puppet of the United States. And so he's being used, of course, to do their bidding. So"}, {"start": "01:29:24", "end": "01:29:31", "text": "that's why they're they're totally silent about this. But they're furious about M Dami. You have an actual ISIS"}, {"start": "01:29:31", "end": "01:29:36", "text": "al-Qaeda terrorist in the White House who's killed people, who's fought against American soldiers. Like what a"}, {"start": "01:29:36", "end": "01:29:42", "text": "slap in the face to these US men and women in uniform who fought against these guys for so many years who have"}, {"start": "01:29:42", "end": "01:29:49", "text": "brain trauma, PTSD, who've lost limbs as a result of fighting these guys."}, {"start": "01:29:49", "end": "01:29:56", "text": "Now we're partnering with them. But see, the joke all along is that we created them in the first place and we funded them in the first place many years ago."}, {"start": "01:29:56", "end": "01:30:02", "text": "It was a creation of ours anyway, just like Hamas is a creation of Israel and the United States. And we armed them."}, {"start": "01:30:02", "end": "01:30:09", "text": "The United States armed Hamas. They had one gun. That's it. won until we gave them weapons because you need a bad guy."}, {"start": "01:30:09", "end": "01:30:17", "text": "You need a bad guy to carry out your nefarious plans. We're also and you know it was intentional because they the Israel monitors every single"}, {"start": "01:30:17", "end": "01:30:25", "text": "thing that goes in and out of Gaza. Everything. So those weapons were approved. They know exactly. I mean Netanyahu is"}, {"start": "01:30:25", "end": "01:30:30", "text": "on the record talking about creating Hamas. So you you know you need you know it's like the Wizard of Oz, right? You"}, {"start": "01:30:30", "end": "01:30:37", "text": "need to have that bad guy. People can rally around a bad guy. When you create Hamas and then you stand down and allow"}, {"start": "01:30:37", "end": "01:30:43", "text": "them to attack you, it's a brilliant strategy. So, well, they aren't going to get to build those condos otherwise,"}, {"start": "01:30:43", "end": "01:30:49", "text": "right? Uh Graham Remple in our chat says, \"Buy gold and silver and Bitcoin since"}, {"start": "01:30:49", "end": "01:30:55", "text": "inflation is going to rise.\" Um, yeah, they play both sides. Exactly."}, {"start": "01:30:55", "end": "01:31:00", "text": "Someone else says, \"America will eventually break apart.\" That's a given. Gemas says"}, {"start": "01:31:00", "end": "01:31:07", "text": "uh Princess Dumbartan says Mark Levvin is one nasty effer."}, {"start": "01:31:07", "end": "01:31:12", "text": "Um Muma says you think Ben Shapiro hasn't"}, {"start": "01:31:12", "end": "01:31:20", "text": "been calling Tim P and and and and Group Incorporated. I don't know. Um"}, {"start": "01:31:20", "end": "01:31:26", "text": "David Bird says, \"I love I I love kimchi. I discovered it when I was stationed in Korea.\" I know. Kim, man,"}, {"start": "01:31:26", "end": "01:31:33", "text": "they have they have kimchi in every all of their food over there. Um, free speech is dead. Tuned in from"}, {"start": "01:31:33", "end": "01:31:42", "text": "the UK. Hi everyone. Good to see you. Let me see on the other super chats that we have here. Um,"}, {"start": "01:31:42", "end": "01:31:48", "text": "also that poll's up if you want to read the results of the poll. So, the poll we asked earlier was, \"Do you think a 50-year mortgage is a good"}, {"start": "01:31:48", "end": "01:31:57", "text": "idea?\" 87% of you said, \"No, it's not.\" 13% said yes, it is."}, {"start": "01:31:57", "end": "01:32:02", "text": "I mean, the thing is, the only way that a 50-year mortgage is good is if you"}, {"start": "01:32:02", "end": "01:32:09", "text": "have the financial education and wherewithal to get out of it as quickly as possible. Like I said, Natalie and I"}, {"start": "01:32:09", "end": "01:32:14", "text": "wrote a book on how to pay off your mortgage in 5 years. It's a it's a best-selling book if you'd like to check"}, {"start": "01:32:14", "end": "01:32:21", "text": "it out, but it's short. or you can read it in about it's like 100 pages long, but like you want to get that mortgage"}, {"start": "01:32:21", "end": "01:32:28", "text": "down as quickly as possible because that amateurization schedule is so massive and then of course you're paying that much more in interest. You're doubling"}, {"start": "01:32:28", "end": "01:32:33", "text": "or even tripling the amount of interest you're paying over the life of that loan. So, if you have a plan going into it where you know you're going to take"}, {"start": "01:32:33", "end": "01:32:40", "text": "this like cheaper interest rate, lower monthly payment, and then you're going to like sock money away so that every"}, {"start": "01:32:40", "end": "01:32:46", "text": "month you're firing a lot of money at the principal balance and you're getting it paid off in like 3 years or four"}, {"start": "01:32:46", "end": "01:32:51", "text": "years, great. But most people aren't going to do that at all. It's kind of"}, {"start": "01:32:51", "end": "01:32:56", "text": "like the, you know, it's like payday loans. It's like it's it's going to hurt people significantly. They're going to"}, {"start": "01:32:56", "end": "01:33:03", "text": "get locked into these loans for 50 years. They'll never own the house at all. They'll just pay the bank twice as"}, {"start": "01:33:03", "end": "01:33:08", "text": "much money. So all of, you know, all the all the Wall Street people are going to allow lot more money."}, {"start": "01:33:08", "end": "01:33:14", "text": "Yeah. And it's it's also the the the value of the home's not going up because you paid more for it. So like if you buy"}, {"start": "01:33:14", "end": "01:33:21", "text": "a $500,000 home, you pay $800,000 interest on top of it. It's not like the house is now worth a million dollars. So"}, {"start": "01:33:21", "end": "01:33:26", "text": "if you try to resell it, you just you basically paid more for the same thing."}, {"start": "01:33:26", "end": "01:33:31", "text": "Why not rent? because then you don't have a mortgage to deal with. You don't have all of the stuff that comes with"}, {"start": "01:33:31", "end": "01:33:37", "text": "owning a home. I have to fix everything. I have to take care of all these things. It's not a performing asset at all. So,"}, {"start": "01:33:37", "end": "01:33:42", "text": "why not just rent at that point? I have a lot of real estate investor friends who actually rent the home they live in,"}, {"start": "01:33:42", "end": "01:33:50", "text": "but then they own like 50 properties that they rent out. The home they live in is a rent is a rental."}, {"start": "01:33:50", "end": "01:33:56", "text": "So, yeah. Uh Bucker Bill says the 50 years will give you the cheapest rate for"}, {"start": "01:33:56", "end": "01:34:02", "text": "borrowing. So, you take the cheapest rate and pay it off real quick. Exactly. But most people aren't going to do that."}, {"start": "01:34:02", "end": "01:34:08", "text": "Well, that's what I'm saying. Could it could it or what I'm wondering is could it actually be an advantage because you would get a lower monthly payment so"}, {"start": "01:34:08", "end": "01:34:14", "text": "that you're able to put more towards the principal. Um, well that I Well, that's the thing"}, {"start": "01:34:14", "end": "01:34:20", "text": "most people So, a 15-year mortgage, if I'm not mistaken, correct me if I'm wrong in the chat room, unless it's changed recently. Usually, like a"}, {"start": "01:34:20", "end": "01:34:26", "text": "15-year mortgage, you have a lower interest rate. you have a, you know, and the 30-year mortgage, I think you have a"}, {"start": "01:34:26", "end": "01:34:31", "text": "slightly higher interest rate. Am I wrong about that? Maybe someone can check my math on that. I think it used"}, {"start": "01:34:31", "end": "01:34:38", "text": "to be the case. So, the idea is you would get a 15-year, your pay your your monthly payment is higher. I think your"}, {"start": "01:34:38", "end": "01:34:44", "text": "interest rate is lower, but then you still want to try to pay it off as quickly as possible. All that to say, my"}, {"start": "01:34:44", "end": "01:34:49", "text": "point is that most people aren't going to do that. Almost no one is going to do that. They'll get the 50-year and"}, {"start": "01:34:49", "end": "01:34:55", "text": "they'll just make the monthly payment every month and they're not going to pay more. The whole point of doing it that way is"}, {"start": "01:34:55", "end": "01:35:03", "text": "it's so I don't have to pay more. So my monthly payment will be less, but I'll pay it off in 50 years when I'm 90 and"}, {"start": "01:35:03", "end": "01:35:09", "text": "then I'll own the home when I'm 90 years old. Okay? I mean, at the end of the"}, {"start": "01:35:09", "end": "01:35:14", "text": "day, it's a financial product. So if you're just if you're financially intelligent, you can figure out how to actually use this product to your"}, {"start": "01:35:14", "end": "01:35:20", "text": "advantage. So yes, you could do a refinance or you could figure out what to do with it if you knew how to target and pray down the plate pay down the"}, {"start": "01:35:20", "end": "01:35:26", "text": "principal balance. Um well well then do you ever actually own"}, {"start": "01:35:26", "end": "01:35:31", "text": "it? Because if you if you pay off your house and you miss your property taxes or"}, {"start": "01:35:31", "end": "01:35:36", "text": "something in a year, can they can they not take it from you? They can take your home in a year with"}, {"start": "01:35:36", "end": "01:35:42", "text": "if you don't pay your property taxes. Yeah. So you go to tax auction. Your house will go to"}, {"start": "01:35:42", "end": "01:35:50", "text": "tax auction real fast. Like if you don't pay your property if you don't pay your property taxes, your house will go to tax auction um real fast. So that's what"}, {"start": "01:35:50", "end": "01:35:57", "text": "will happen. I mean, I bought raw land through a tax auction before because it just reverted to the to the to the"}, {"start": "01:35:57", "end": "01:36:02", "text": "county because the person stopped paying taxes on it and the government's like, \"Sorry, you don't own that land"}, {"start": "01:36:02", "end": "01:36:08", "text": "anymore.\" And so, they don't get their money back. Like, the county is not sending them a check. Like, hey, we know"}, {"start": "01:36:08", "end": "01:36:14", "text": "you paid 20 grand for this piece of land. Here's a check for that 20 grand. We know it didn't work out. No, no,"}, {"start": "01:36:14", "end": "01:36:20", "text": "sorry. You just lose it. You just forfeited that and now the county owns your land. So, you know, that's the"}, {"start": "01:36:20", "end": "01:36:26", "text": "thing. That's what Ronda Santis is trying to do in Florida right now, which is eliminate property taxes, which I think is great because then you'd"}, {"start": "01:36:26", "end": "01:36:33", "text": "actually own the land and you own the property and the government doesn't own it. You're not paying rent to the government for in perpetuity."}, {"start": "01:36:33", "end": "01:36:39", "text": "Um, you're not actually owning anything. I I'm just want to curious here 15-year"}, {"start": "01:36:39", "end": "01:36:46", "text": "mortgage rate right now. I just want to see what the rates are. Uh"}, {"start": "01:36:46", "end": "01:36:56", "text": "so about as of November 10th so as of today the 15-year is about 5.5%."}, {"start": "01:36:56", "end": "01:37:02", "text": "5.5%. Okay. And what is the 30-year today as of November 10th?"}, {"start": "01:37:02", "end": "01:37:08", "text": "30-year mortgage rate is what is today's rate? Yes. Six 6 and a half%. So, yeah,"}, {"start": "01:37:08", "end": "01:37:15", "text": "getting a 15-year mortgage is about 1 percentage point lower. So, about 5 1.5%"}, {"start": "01:37:15", "end": "01:37:20", "text": "versus 6 1/2% interest right now. It depends on where you're going because"}, {"start": "01:37:20", "end": "01:37:26", "text": "you can get some, you know, different rates and it depends. But basically 5 1/2 up to about 5.94%"}, {"start": "01:37:26", "end": "01:37:32", "text": "for a 15-year and a 30-year is about 6 and a half%."}, {"start": "01:37:32", "end": "01:37:37", "text": "So, just a little bit more. Um, so that idea is that, hey, I've got to I've got"}, {"start": "01:37:37", "end": "01:37:43", "text": "less time to pay it back. The banks aren't going to make as much because I'm not paying it for 30 years. I'm paying"}, {"start": "01:37:43", "end": "01:37:48", "text": "it for 15. But my my suggestion would be, hey, you know, get whatever low"}, {"start": "01:37:48", "end": "01:37:54", "text": "interest rate you can and then fire as much as you can of the principal balance"}, {"start": "01:37:54", "end": "01:38:00", "text": "separate, like write a separate check per month to that principal balance so you can pay it off in like 2, three, four years. I mean, the book that I"}, {"start": "01:38:00", "end": "01:38:08", "text": "wrote with Natalie is called How to Pay Off Your Mortgage in Five Years. Here's the book. Um, and uh, it's on Amazon."}, {"start": "01:38:08", "end": "01:38:14", "text": "You can find it there. But, you know, because what you're really"}, {"start": "01:38:14", "end": "01:38:20", "text": "doing is you're you're targeting the time. It's time. You know,"}, {"start": "01:38:20", "end": "01:38:26", "text": "you've got that whole amterization schedule for 30 years. Like, it's not changing. The only thing that changes it"}, {"start": "01:38:26", "end": "01:38:33", "text": "is you firing an amount at the principal balance. And that's how you can completely alter that in calendar. Um,"}, {"start": "01:38:33", "end": "01:38:40", "text": "so anyway, that's my recommendation. Um, yes, you pay your property tax as"}, {"start": "01:38:40", "end": "01:38:46", "text": "long as you own your home. Exactly. Again, that's why it's amazing."}, {"start": "01:38:46", "end": "01:38:52", "text": "If if they can do that in Florida, I would love to see them pull that off. So, shouldn't people have that option? Will"}, {"start": "01:38:52", "end": "01:38:59", "text": "Young says, \"Yeah, I mean, you have an option. You can do 15, 30, you can do 10-year mortgages.\" Um, I think in"}, {"start": "01:38:59", "end": "01:39:04", "text": "Europe when we lived there, we had a we had a 30-year, I think, but I think they"}, {"start": "01:39:04", "end": "01:39:11", "text": "offered 40-year mortgages in Europe. What's hilarious in Europe, by the way,"}, {"start": "01:39:11", "end": "01:39:16", "text": "to get a mortgage, like, you have to be fit. Like, you cannot be morbidly obese"}, {"start": "01:39:16", "end": "01:39:22", "text": "or have any kind of major health issues. Like, they will not give you a mortgage. You got to literally go to the hospital"}, {"start": "01:39:22", "end": "01:39:27", "text": "and run on a treadmill and they'll do blood tests, everything. Like they want to make sure that you can"}, {"start": "01:39:27", "end": "01:39:32", "text": "pay this thing back. Like sorry your fat ass is homeless."}, {"start": "01:39:32", "end": "01:39:39", "text": "I mean if you're like seriously if you're wildly overweight you're gonna have to run like two miles on a treadmill like up they like put the"}, {"start": "01:39:39", "end": "01:39:44", "text": "thing like uphill like wow. I mean I don't know how some people and"}, {"start": "01:39:44", "end": "01:39:52", "text": "like so many people smoke you know like they should do that before you get McDonald's here in America."}, {"start": "01:39:52", "end": "01:39:58", "text": "Oh man. Clauddio in our chat room says, \"Clayton, average house price here in Vancouver, British Columbia is $1"}, {"start": "01:39:58", "end": "01:40:04", "text": "million. You need at least 20% down. Most houses on the market for two million. How do you pay off 1.8 in five"}, {"start": "01:40:04", "end": "01:40:10", "text": "years?\" Well, I mean, there's So, in the book,"}, {"start": "01:40:10", "end": "01:40:18", "text": "we c we talk about a couple of different strategies. One of which is that you can actually use a home equity line of credit. So, if you've got some equity in"}, {"start": "01:40:18", "end": "01:40:24", "text": "your home, what you're trading is two different financial products. That's how we paid it off in five years. Uh, by the"}, {"start": "01:40:24", "end": "01:40:34", "text": "way, I was so fascinated by this. One of my one of my best friends growing up, he got a perfect on his SATs. Okay, he's a"}, {"start": "01:40:34", "end": "01:40:39", "text": "math actuary. Like, he's that brilliant. He a few years ago told me cuz he bought"}, {"start": "01:40:39", "end": "01:40:45", "text": "a house uh in the east, up east somewhere in Rhode Island, I think. And"}, {"start": "01:40:45", "end": "01:40:52", "text": "he said, \"I bought your book.\" And he said, \"Not not joking you. To the day we're paying off our house in five years"}, {"start": "01:40:52", "end": "01:40:57", "text": "using the strategies.\" And I was just like, \"What? Really? You you got a perfect on your SATs and you're using,"}, {"start": "01:40:57", "end": "01:41:03", "text": "you know, but because, you know, the banks created this product that they don't want you to know about. They want"}, {"start": "01:41:03", "end": "01:41:10", "text": "you to think you're locked into this like amateurization schedule for 30 years and you're not. The way to really"}, {"start": "01:41:10", "end": "01:41:17", "text": "shorten that amount is by firing a separate payment, whether it's once a month, once a quarter, once a year. I"}, {"start": "01:41:17", "end": "01:41:22", "text": "prefer doing it like once a month. So, you know, it's like is to is to fire um"}, {"start": "01:41:22", "end": "01:41:29", "text": "fire that extra principal payment to your principal balance on your mortgage and you dramatically shift your"}, {"start": "01:41:29", "end": "01:41:36", "text": "amateurization schedule. And you'll notice if you actually build a spreadsheet, we actually give away a free Google spreadsheet in the book, but"}, {"start": "01:41:36", "end": "01:41:41", "text": "you plug in these numbers, it's remarkable because you'll suddenly see the amount"}, {"start": "01:41:41", "end": "01:41:47", "text": "you're paying in interest once you make like an extra payment. you just see that that whole calendar shift and the amount"}, {"start": "01:41:47", "end": "01:41:53", "text": "in interest that you're paying to the bank just shifts dramatically. I love doing it. So,"}, {"start": "01:41:53", "end": "01:41:58", "text": "just out of curiosity, would that work on a car as well? Like anything you finance?"}, {"start": "01:41:58", "end": "01:42:04", "text": "Um, no, not a car because there's no amization schedule on a car, right? As"}, {"start": "01:42:04", "end": "01:42:10", "text": "far as I know, right? You're just paying you're just paying one lump monthly payment, right? But you can pay toward the"}, {"start": "01:42:10", "end": "01:42:15", "text": "principal every month too if you put anything like you can if you make an extra car payment. Yeah, because I used"}, {"start": "01:42:15", "end": "01:42:22", "text": "to make an extra and I would say apply the rest of the principal. So you can actually apply more to the principal"}, {"start": "01:42:22", "end": "01:42:28", "text": "each month that you pay over your payment then. Yeah. I mean, anything you're financing like this that puts you on a"}, {"start": "01:42:28", "end": "01:42:34", "text": "schedule that requires you to pay cuz when you're buying a house for the first like eight"}, {"start": "01:42:34", "end": "01:42:40", "text": "years of owning the home, you're only basically making every payment you make is just going towards interest. like you're not even paying on the principal"}, {"start": "01:42:40", "end": "01:42:46", "text": "balance at all. Usually in the first like decade, 8 n 7 8 depends on your"}, {"start": "01:42:46", "end": "01:42:53", "text": "house, but mostly you're not you're not paying anything on principal."}, {"start": "01:42:53", "end": "01:42:59", "text": "So the bank is making all this money up front by you just paying on the interest. Um oh, by the way, and like in Europe,"}, {"start": "01:42:59", "end": "01:43:06", "text": "they don't even let you pay the mortgage off early. Like you'll get a penalty. You can't pay it off early. So isn't that funny? But in the US, you can pay"}, {"start": "01:43:06", "end": "01:43:11", "text": "it off early. So my goal like with this Vancouver"}, {"start": "01:43:11", "end": "01:43:16", "text": "situation, I mean, first of all, I mean, that's just Vancouver is the most overpriced"}, {"start": "01:43:16", "end": "01:43:22", "text": "place in the entire world. So, you know, is it does it make sense"}, {"start": "01:43:22", "end": "01:43:27", "text": "to own a home at the end of the day? I guess my I would even start there. Does it make sense to even own a house in"}, {"start": "01:43:27", "end": "01:43:33", "text": "Vancouver or are you better off renting something? Like, do you really want to"}, {"start": "01:43:33", "end": "01:43:40", "text": "live in a place that you're that overpriced for home values where like 60% of your take-home pay is going to"}, {"start": "01:43:40", "end": "01:43:45", "text": "pay a mortgage? Like, that might be a place where you're like, \"Yeah, maybe I need to move.\" I mean, just being honest"}, {"start": "01:43:45", "end": "01:43:50", "text": "with you, like I would never move to California for that reason. Just the"}, {"start": "01:43:50", "end": "01:43:57", "text": "home prices are so out of whack. Um, well, and imagine what the rent prices are on those properties."}, {"start": "01:43:57", "end": "01:44:02", "text": "That's true. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I guess I know I have a I have a one of my best friends lives in Vancouver, so I I know"}, {"start": "01:44:02", "end": "01:44:08", "text": "a lot about this. Um he we were just talking this morning actually. He said like the home that his parents had in"}, {"start": "01:44:08", "end": "01:44:14", "text": "Vancouver that they sold a number of years ago, they sold for like 400,000. That same home now, if they would just"}, {"start": "01:44:14", "end": "01:44:19", "text": "would have held on to it, it could have sold for 2 million. Like that's how inflated everything has"}, {"start": "01:44:19", "end": "01:44:28", "text": "gotten in Vancouver. But the principles apply no matter if it's a multi-million dollar home or a $400,000 home."}, {"start": "01:44:28", "end": "01:44:34", "text": "the same principles apply. Like you can use different financial products. So what what I'm trying to say is that a"}, {"start": "01:44:34", "end": "01:44:40", "text": "home equity line of credit is different than a mortgage."}, {"start": "01:44:40", "end": "01:44:46", "text": "They're two different financial products and they operate differently. So you can actually leverage a home equity line of"}, {"start": "01:44:46", "end": "01:44:51", "text": "credit if you had if you wanted to get like a $10,000 home equity line of credit on your house. The beauty of Let"}, {"start": "01:44:51", "end": "01:44:58", "text": "me just Sorry, going off on this tangent, but I wrote a whole book about it. When you get a home equity line of credit, you you start with a zero"}, {"start": "01:44:58", "end": "01:45:04", "text": "balance, right? So, they basically give you a a checking"}, {"start": "01:45:04", "end": "01:45:11", "text": "account. They give you like a credit card, you know, for your home equity and you"}, {"start": "01:45:11", "end": "01:45:17", "text": "start with a zero balance. You don't have to use it. Usually, home equity lines of credit last about 10 years, so"}, {"start": "01:45:17", "end": "01:45:26", "text": "you've got it. Now, what most people do with a home equity line of credit is they do stupid stuff. they go and buy a boat or they, you know,"}, {"start": "01:45:26", "end": "01:45:33", "text": "maybe they do some renovations on the house, which I'm not a big fan of because then you're putting that same money back into the house and it's kind"}, {"start": "01:45:33", "end": "01:45:39", "text": "of a what if you could use that equity to actually buy a performing asset. Now you're bringing in cash flow from the"}, {"start": "01:45:39", "end": "01:45:45", "text": "equity in your house, right? So, because you can't eat equity. So, you're living in a home"}, {"start": "01:45:45", "end": "01:45:51", "text": "that's not a performing asset. It's not performing unless you have a room that you're renting out."}, {"start": "01:45:51", "end": "01:45:58", "text": "like an Airbnb or something, but you live in it. So, it's actually not a performing asset. It's an asset. It's"}, {"start": "01:45:58", "end": "01:46:04", "text": "not a performing asset. So, if you've got a home equity line of credit, let's say you get one for like 10,000 bucks or"}, {"start": "01:46:04", "end": "01:46:11", "text": "20 or 30 or whatever, they usually give you like a a loan to value ratio of like 80% loan to value"}, {"start": "01:46:11", "end": "01:46:18", "text": "ratio on the house, right? So, let's say you get $10,000. I'm just trying to think small numbers. And you've got this 30-year mortgage over here."}, {"start": "01:46:18", "end": "01:46:26", "text": "You could take that $10,000 home equity line of credit, max it out, and write a check to the principal balance of your"}, {"start": "01:46:26", "end": "01:46:33", "text": "primary residence. To the principal, not your normal payments, but to the principal. Now, you've knocked $10,000"}, {"start": "01:46:33", "end": "01:46:40", "text": "off the principal balance of your primary home. Yes. Now, your home equity line of credit is now at 10,000. You've maxed it out."}, {"start": "01:46:40", "end": "01:46:45", "text": "But the way that we structure it in the book is you actually monthly you start paying it out of your paycheck. You pay"}, {"start": "01:46:45", "end": "01:46:50", "text": "this home equity line of credit back down to zero and then you rinse and repeat and fire"}, {"start": "01:46:50", "end": "01:46:56", "text": "another $10,000 at this thing and before you know it, you've had this thing paid off because you're making all of these"}, {"start": "01:46:56", "end": "01:47:02", "text": "additional principal payments and before you know it, it's paid off. So obviously"}, {"start": "01:47:02", "end": "01:47:08", "text": "if you got a multi-million dollar house, maybe want to increase that initial payment, but it just depends on how you're playing with these numbers. So,"}, {"start": "01:47:08", "end": "01:47:14", "text": "but there's a whole bunch of different strategies that you can use on on doing this. But the bottom line is the banks"}, {"start": "01:47:14", "end": "01:47:21", "text": "don't want you to know this because they make a lot of money. If you keep a mortgage for 30 years, they make the most amount of money. They're making"}, {"start": "01:47:21", "end": "01:47:27", "text": "double their money, triple their money. And now a 50-year mortgage, they're making an insane amount of money with"}, {"start": "01:47:27", "end": "01:47:32", "text": "this. So anyway, sidebar, side tangent, but that's how"}, {"start": "01:47:32", "end": "01:47:37", "text": "this works. Um, all right."}, {"start": "01:47:38", "end": "01:47:44", "text": "Um, Dan Lynn says, \"Go live with the Bigfoot. You like stress, but the rent's cheap."}, {"start": "01:47:44", "end": "01:47:49", "text": "Um, they stink though, really bad."}, {"start": "01:47:49", "end": "01:47:56", "text": "I've heard that. Rainbow Unicorn Pony says, \"You can use a heliloc to buy assets as long as you make over the"}, {"start": "01:47:56", "end": "01:48:03", "text": "interest paying on the heliloc. So, the heliloc 6%, but you can make 12% and you net 6%.\" Yeah. Now, back in the day,"}, {"start": "01:48:03", "end": "01:48:08", "text": "home equity lines of credit had a much lower interest rate. So now we're dealing with higher"}, {"start": "01:48:08", "end": "01:48:13", "text": "with higher interest rates on home equity lines of credit. I get that. So"}, {"start": "01:48:13", "end": "01:48:20", "text": "you just got to make sure the numbers make sense, right? Before you start buying these or taking these different financial products out, you got it's all"}, {"start": "01:48:20", "end": "01:48:25", "text": "math. But remember that a home equity line of credit is just totally different than a"}, {"start": "01:48:25", "end": "01:48:31", "text": "than a mortgage. They're just two totally different financial products. And the way that I like to think about it is using one of these financial"}, {"start": "01:48:31", "end": "01:48:38", "text": "products to attack the other one because they're differently structured. And that's the sort of the secret in how to"}, {"start": "01:48:38", "end": "01:48:44", "text": "do it because you're going after that principal balance. So,"}, {"start": "01:48:44", "end": "01:48:49", "text": "thank you guys for your comments."}, {"start": "01:48:49", "end": "01:48:55", "text": "Um, anything else? All right. So, we are Do I have anything else to hit today,"}, {"start": "01:48:55", "end": "01:49:00", "text": "Philip, or am I all good? Yeah, we're all good. Um, yeah, that's all good."}, {"start": "01:49:00", "end": "01:49:06", "text": "Yeah, check out our website, by the way, if you're interested in financial education. Um, you know, that's one of"}, {"start": "01:49:06", "end": "01:49:13", "text": "the things I'm really passionate about. I've started multiple businesses. I've been an investor for many, many years, and of course, I'm passionate about this"}, {"start": "01:49:13", "end": "01:49:18", "text": "stuff. Um, so on our website, if you go to redacted.inc, sorry, we've got some"}, {"start": "01:49:18", "end": "01:49:23", "text": "construction out here. I apologize for the circular saw, but redacted. See, and"}, {"start": "01:49:23", "end": "01:49:31", "text": "when you go there, click at the top. You'll see there's a top bar up at the top that um uh start investing. So, it's"}, {"start": "01:49:31", "end": "01:49:37", "text": "like a tab that'll kind of take you through all of the ways to start investing and learning about all of these things and how to build financial"}, {"start": "01:49:37", "end": "01:49:44", "text": "intelligence. I think it's one of the things that well, first of all, they don't teach it in schools, how to build financial intelligence,"}, {"start": "01:49:44", "end": "01:49:50", "text": "but it to me, it's the key to protecting your family because everything we teach you is like outside of Wall Street,"}, {"start": "01:49:50", "end": "01:49:55", "text": "outside of how they all make money. it like it gives you the full control. So"}, {"start": "01:49:55", "end": "01:50:02", "text": "all of the ways in which everything is redacted and they don't want to teach you this stuff. They want you to just buy a 401k and make Wall Street rich and"}, {"start": "01:50:02", "end": "01:50:08", "text": "we try to teach you how to do it yourself where there's no middleman and you keep all the money. So that's what"}, {"start": "01:50:08", "end": "01:50:14", "text": "I'm passionate about. Anyway, check that out on the website. We have a whole redacted invest section that we built"}, {"start": "01:50:14", "end": "01:50:20", "text": "out. So please check that out. Hey, we'll be back here tomorrow at 400 p.m. Eastern time and we will be live at that"}, {"start": "01:50:20", "end": "01:50:26", "text": "time. So, thank you guys so much for subscribing and being a part of our community here, and we'll see you back here tomorrow. Have a great night,"}, {"start": "01:50:26", "end": "01:50:29", "text": "everyone."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "We better buckle up because alarm bells"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "are going off all over the place right"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "now and things are about to go from"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "troubling to catastrophic in the US"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "economy. And Putin and China, they smell"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "blood in the water. They already know"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "what's coming. We've got a lot of really"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "important news items to talk about today"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "that we need to pay attention to because"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "right now there are a lot of like MAGA"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "influencers out there trying to gaslight"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "you. Everything's fine. This is"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "America's golden era, okay? They're"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "lying about what's happening right now"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "because we have the numbers. We've got"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "collapsing consumer confidence numbers"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "right now. The lowest approval ratings"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "of Trump's second term right now and a"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "world that's watching America stumbling"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "on its face. $ 38 trillion in debt. And"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "it's all happening at the same time."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "This is like a perfect storm. So today,"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "we're going to unpack exactly what's"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "happening. The latest numbers that just"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "came out, what it means for your wallet,"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "why Russia just made a major military"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "move overnight while Washington is still"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "pretending that everything's fine. But"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "I'm also a big believer in the Warren"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "Buffett idea of investing, which is when"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "you know stuff is hitting the fan, we"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "always have some silver linings and"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "opportunities to talk about. So I'll"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "talk about that a little bit later. But"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "first, let's start with this new"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "University of Michigan survey. And just"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "so you understand, this university study"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "is the oldest and most respected"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "consumer study in America. And it's the"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "same one that Zero Hedge today is"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "calling the loudest alarm bell yet. Take"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "a look at this. It shows that US"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "consumer sentiment just hit a record"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "low. Think about that. It's not just"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "bad. That's a record low. Lower than"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "during the fake pandemic. Lower than"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "during the 2008 housing collapse. Now,"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "if you're not familiar with what the"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "consumer sentiment actually measures,"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "it's one of the most important gauges of"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "the US economy. It's basically how"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "confident or fearful Americans feel"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "about their own financial situation and"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "the economy as a whole. When that number"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "drops, it means people are scared."}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "They're pulling back on spending,"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "putting off big purchases, saving"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "whatever they can right now. And new"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "data just came out last week showing"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "Americans right now at the highest level"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "ever are living paycheck to paycheck."}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "More Americans than ever before are"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "living paycheck to paycheck. And since"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "consumer spending makes up about"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "twothirds of the entire US economy, when"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "that sentiment collapses and people"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "don't want to go out to dinner, can't"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "afford to buy presents for Christmas,"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "then the whole system starts to seize up"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "and collapse just like 2008. By the way,"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "I know Trump was praising the stock"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "market is up. Yeah. Because when the"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "stock market goes up, when companies lay"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "off tens of thousands of employees like"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "Microsoft just did, or Chipotle is"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "planning to do, all of these companies"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "laying off workers, that buoys their"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "stock."}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "So when you have this consumer sentiment"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "number right now, it's like watching the"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "heartbeat of the economy slow down in"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "real time until what? It flatlines."}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "But President Trump spent last week"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "gaslighting the American people on this."}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "says, \"Americans feel much better about"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "the economy.\""}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "Well, they feel better about our country"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "right now, other than the shutdown"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "obviously, which is caused by the"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "Democrats, could be ended by the"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "Democrats in 2 minutes. They feel much"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "better. We have more jobs. We just set a"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "record on jobs. You do know that."}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "I mean, I don't know what he's talking"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "about"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "other than that's pure gaslighting. I"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "mean, I know he's trying to be a"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "cheerleader, but the numbers don't lie"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "and that's just simply not true. And"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "here's the bottom line from that"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "consumer report. The US consumer economy"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "is about to get totally wrecked. You"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "don't need a PhD in economics to see it."}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "People are losing their jobs in numbers"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "that we haven't seen since 2003."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "Evictions are also ticking up. Auto"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "repossessions are skyrocketing. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "they're just showing up to people's"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "homes, taking their cars back because"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "they can't afford to pay their auto loan"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "anymore. Then there's the student loan"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "defaults already breaking records. And"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "yet we're told that we are living in a"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "golden era. I want to believe that,"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "right? I mean, you're playing on my"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "hopes and dreams that we are in a golden"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "era, but right now that's not true. I"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "mean, President Trump literally last"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "week gave a speech where he sounded like"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "Kla Harris. Everything's fine in this"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "economy. It's frankly a very different"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "world. America is back and America is"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "respected perhaps like never before. Our"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "economy is roaring. I"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "keep saying this that America is roaring"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "back, that this is the start of a new"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "boom."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "Maybe. But when you're standing in line"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "at a food bank and when your rent just"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "went up $400 a month, when you're maxing"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "out your credit cards to pay for"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "groceries, that doesn't feel like a"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "boom. This is gaslighting on a national"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "scale right now. The political class can"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "put whatever numbers they want on a"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "chart, but the real America is bleeding"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "out right now. One of my heroes, Dr. Ron"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "Paul, says that there is a huge"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "disconnect between the Trump"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "administration's description of the"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "economy and the economy that we all live"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "in. The news is coming out. Uh there's"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "some in the leadership of this country"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "are saying this is the golden age of"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "economics. It's just wonderful. But uh"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "the subject we're going to start with"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "doesn't show that it's so golden."}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "And that pain is now showing up in the"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "polls. According to new numbers out this"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "week, Trump's approval rating just hit a"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "new low for his second term. Lower than"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "Biden's at this point during his"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "presidency. Lower than Obama."}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "Workingclass Americans who voted for"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "Trump, they're fed up. independents who"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "voted for Trump, young people"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "particularly who voted for Trump and"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "middle-aged voters are starting to lose"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "patience with this Trump agenda. They're"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "not buying the everything's fine"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "narrative. I mean, again, it's in the"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "numbers. I'm not making this up. That"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "collapse in approval is exactly why"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "Russia and China are moving right now."}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "Because when a president's approval"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "tanks, so does his leverage on the world"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "stage. Putin and she can see this clear"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "as day. They know Trump can't afford"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "another foreign crisis. He can't afford"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "to look outward when he's fighting to"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "hold on right now at home. So, they're"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "pressing their advantage. I mean, just"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "look what happened this weekend as"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "Russia's army su successfully encircled"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "the Kian region, a key Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "stronghold. And the US can't do anything"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "about it. Europe is a disaster. So,"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "they're not doing anything either."}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "That's not just a tactical victory."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "That's a signal from Putin that we've"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "got a mission to compete while the US"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "government is shutting down. America is"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "collapsing. It tells the world that"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "Russia believes the US and Europe are"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "too distracted, too broke, too"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "politically divided to do anything about"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "it. Europe's totally tapped out. And if"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "you see the new numbers out of Germany,"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "their economy is on the precipice of a"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "total disaster. America is preoccupied."}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "And for the first time since the Cold"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "War, the balance of global power is"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "shifting right in front of us. Not"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "because of bombs, but because of debt,"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "denial, and total distraction. Putin"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "knows Trump is cornered politically"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "right now. He knows this administration"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "can't focus on Ukraine while Americans"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "are drowning economically."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "They'll be be crushed in the midterms."}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "Like, if that's the strategy Republicans"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "want to go with, like focusing on"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "Israel, focusing on Ukraine, and America"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "is being crushed, they're going to be"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "destroyed during the midterm elections."}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "Our enemies don't need to defeat us"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "militarily. They just need to wait for"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "us to implode financially. And that's"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "exactly what's happening right now."}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "We're seeing the housing market freeze"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "right now. Scott Benson said the"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "Treasury Secretary last week talked"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "about we are already likely in a housing"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "recession and young people are being"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "particularly crushed. I mean look at"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "those new unemployment numbers among"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "young people. These numbers are like"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "jaw-dropping when I saw them yesterday."}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "9.2%"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "for 20 to 24 year olds. This is double"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "the national average. They're getting"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "out of college with enormous debt. They"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "can't find a job in their field. They"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "can't pay back their student loans. And"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "on top of that, they're growing in this"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "massive amount of credit card debt."}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "Charlie Kirk told Tucker Carlson shortly"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "before he was assassinated that young"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "people are getting desperate. But almost"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "all of them are like, \"Charlie, I don't"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "know what to do.\" Like trading crypto"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "till 2 a.m. and kind of, you know,"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "betting that the Green Bay Packers are"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "going to win the Super Bowl. That's not"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "enough for me, Charlie. What can we do?"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "And one of the reasons they voted for"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "Trump is they said, \"President Trump,"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "please reorder this economy for us"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "because it's severely disordered.\""}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "This is a national disaster right now."}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "Denial is not a solution, but that's"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "what these politicians are selling,"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "gaslighting all of us. And that seems to"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "be the GOP strategy heading into 2026"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "and 2028. Become George Washington."}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "Focus here. No one voted for any of that"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "stuff. No one. No young person voted for"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "Trump to be up Benjamin Netanyahu's ass."}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "No young person voted for us to be"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "involved in Ukraine. He said he would"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "end that war on day one. No one in"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "America besides Mark Levvin, Ted Cruz,"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "and Randy Fine, want us to put Israel"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "before America's interests. Not me, no"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "American that I know, I have not met one"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "American that wants us to put another"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "country before us. So stop it right now."}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "He has to triple down on America, jobs,"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "manufacturing, energy independence, or"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "his presidency is finished. And JD"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "Vance, good luck. I mean, good luck."}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "What kind of a show of a record is"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "he going to be able to run on in 2028?"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "There's no sugar coating it. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "sugar coating this at all. I'm finished"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "with this kind of behavior. Putin and"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "she are betting that Trump can't fix it."}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "They're betting that America's decline"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "is irreversible. And honestly, if you"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "look at the data, it's hard to argue"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "with them. $ 38 trillion in debt."}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "Countries all over the world ditching"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "the US dollar. They're buying gold like"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "crazy. sell uh settling transactions in"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "their own currencies instead of the"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "United States dollar. That's why I've"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "been saying this for months. Don't wait"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "for Washington to save you. We need to"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "be protecting our families. No one in DC"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "is going to save us."}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "So, that's the news update part of"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "today's video. Now, I want to talk about"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "at least a bright spot in this economy,"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "and that's today's sponsor, which is at"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "the very innermost core of the"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "rearrangement of the economic and"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "political world order that we're just"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "talking about. One billionaire just said"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "this. I thought it was funny. and he"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "said, \"If someone's pointing a gun at"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "you, you need that copper to shoot him"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "back."}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "We just don't have enough of it.\" You"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "just saw Trump on live television"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "counting how many nuclear weapons the US"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "owns compared with Russia and China, a"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "topic that has not been raised in 40"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "years. Why are we talking about nuclear"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "weapons right now? Didn't we pass that?"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "The United States, United States of"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "America and China are battling over"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "mineral supply chains, technological"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "supremacy because globalization stepped"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "out of equilibrium. And now you can see"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "just how when looking at the strategy"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "both superpowers are taken. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "Trump is using tariffs and deregulation"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "to begin the process of realigning"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "mining and securing resources on US"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "soil."}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "President Trump not just looking to"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "bring manufacturing back to the US. He's"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "also hoping to shift mining for critical"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "minerals stateside. But with limited"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "infrastructure and capacity, can US"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "companies keep up with surging demand in"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "the electrification era?"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "Got to bring it back home while the"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "Chinese Communist Party is using their"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "near monopoly status, their scale, and"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "their reserves to their massive"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "advantage. So today, I want to showcase"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "a company that is actually trading at"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "its 2025 lows right now, down nearly 70%"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "from its Q1 highs. and that's the"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "sponsor of today's video and the owner"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "of the Mujaba Hill Copper Project and"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "passing mine in the state of Nevada."}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "That company is called Giant Mining"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "Corporation. Here is their ticker symbol"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "on your screen right here. Now, Giant"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "Mining is available in all of the big"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "brokers like Interactive Brokers,"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "Charles Schwab, all of those. This"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "company is the only copper company that"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "I'm bullish on right now. I say it"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "again, Giant Mining has rarely, if ever,"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "traded this cheaply. And I'm show"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "showcasing it to you at one of its"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "lowest market caps in its history. And"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "the company just raised 5 million"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "Canadian dollars. So it's cashed up"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "right now and phase 2 drilling is in"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "sight. So since President Trump's"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "inauguration, his administration has"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "aggressively pursued policies to secure"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "US mineral independence with copper"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "emerging as a flash point. Copper is a"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "vital mineral for defense and AI"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "infrastructure in this nation and it"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "underscores America's vulnerability to"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "foreign dominance right now. So in"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "February of 2025, Donald Trump signed"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "Executive Order 14220,"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "initiating a section 232 investigation"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "into US copper imports. The"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "investigation was completed in June and"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "it identified a significant US trade"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "deficit and over capacity from state"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "subsidized Chinese copper production"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "leading to then what Trump did in July"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "which is a presidential proclamation"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "that imposed 50% tariffs on semi-finish"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "copper products including wires and"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "cables effectively August 1st, 2025."}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "This was a major reset for the copper"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "industry. one of the world's most famous"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "mining billionaires said about copper"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "that quote the world needs astronomical"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "amounts of copper over the next 20"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "years. End quote. He's repeatedly said"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "that there's no rational price for"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "copper when the metal is this essential."}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "So effective August 1st, the copper"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "sector in my view entered a ground floor"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "sort of seismic level opportunity"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "marking the beginning of a"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "transformative new phase for the entire"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "industry."}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "Now, what we've been seeing is the very"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "first chance in my view to be a part of"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "a rebirth of the American copper mining"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "business. Now, we can access it at its"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "founding moment, as far as I can tell."}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "So, Giant Mining owns a past producing"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "copper mine in Nevada, one of America's"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "best and most cherished mining"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "jurisdictions. The most critical part of"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "all of this is that Giant Mining's share"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "price has still not recovered from that"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "April market shock that happened. So,"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "Giant Mining, in my personal view, is my"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "number one copper idea. I've been"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "standing by that statement. I've been"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "standing by it for many, many months."}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "And Howard Lutnik said, \"American"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "industries depend on copper and it"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "should be made in America. No"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "exceptions, no exemptions.\" And"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "President Trump said, \"Copper should be"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "made in America. It's time for copper to"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "come home.\" Now, just so you understand,"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "the historic underground mines at the"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "Mujaba Hill project produced copper,"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "tin, and silver from the early 1900s up"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "until the 1950s, including 2.8 8 million"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "pound of copper, 184,000 ounces of"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "silver, 5,800 ounces of gold, and 21,000"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "lb of tin. So, I'll say this again. All"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "of these factors have led me to my"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "significant bullish opinion about giant"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "mining. The infrastructure is ready."}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "Access roads, power supply, the"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "transportation, the water supply, the"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "ore stockpiles, all of it. They have"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "established road access. They have power"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "nearby and they have space for potential"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "processing infrastructure as the project"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "advances. If you can look over the"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "company's materials to learn more about"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "that. So guys, do your own homework on"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "Giant Mining. Here is the ticker on your"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "screen. Once again, I'll have links to"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "the company's latest projects and"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "everything about their website in the"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "description below. And we'll see you"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "next time, everyone."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:01", "text": "Remember when we were told that the"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "COVID vaccine did not have DNA and that"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "only crazy people would suggest such a"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "thing? Well, a new study proves that not"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "only does the COVID vaccine have DNA,"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "but also it has the potential to enter"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "cells and stick around in the body. The"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "author of the study joins us. Dr. David"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "Speaker is a Canadian microbiologist. He"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "says redacted is the best place to tell"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "this story because big pharma shills are"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "trying to get his paper retracted. So"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "let's discuss this now. Dr. Speaker, you"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "your study only refers to the mRNA"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "vaccines by Fizer and Madna. So can you"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "please explain it and what it means to"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "have DNA in a vaccine and how it sticks"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "around in the body?"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "Hey. Um um it is so"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "nice to um be"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "here. I've I've had so many silence"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "my"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "self"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "based on how I talk, my"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "science. And"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "this is"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "clearly pharma."}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "This is clearly pharma"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "fraud that's being exposed."}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "There is DNA inside lipid nano particles"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "being transfected into our own cells."}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "And we're told this is not bioactive."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "It's it's no big big"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "deal. Well, it's it's been known since"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "um 1999."}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "If you take a DNA"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "fragment attached to a SV"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "40"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "and enhancer, insert it into a cell such"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "as in a lipid nano particle. it will"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "enter the cell's nucleus"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "and inate"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "into the genome of that cell."}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "So you're talking about how the public"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "was not given informed consent about"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "something that would stay in the body."}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "What the official narrative is, yes,"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "there's DNA. it came from certain"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "components. That's not a big deal. The"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "body will metabolize it and that's the"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "end of story. So tell us just in maybe"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "us normies what that means about the"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "COVID vaccine still in your body however"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "long later."}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "So um um it's it's been"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "show"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "shown"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "there is is spike"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "made up to um 704 days post vex and"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "that's only possible"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "I"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "if the the um Um, MR"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "A is still there. And I think and it"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "needs to to be shown is is that the the"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "the um the the the DNA in the five in"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "the co"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "shots into our cells is being"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "transfected"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "and and then into our"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "genome. Some"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "where and and and so it's not"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "nonbioactive."}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "It's it's not this no big deal thing."}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "It's something that's very important."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "Fer"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "intentionally"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "used a a gene therapy plasma M mid in"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "their"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "shot,"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "right? And so this can't be something"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "like oops, we didn't know that you're"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "making components of a of a vaccine."}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "You I mean we do know that the mRNA"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "technology was not used before"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "the co vaccines."}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "it is being used in upcoming vaccines"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "for say cancer and things like that. Uh"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "even though you know in the US the HHS"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "has put a pause on that."}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "That's right."}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "Is there any benefit of the doubt we can"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "offer fizer and madna that they thought"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "oops this sticks around longer and we"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "didn't know it it would do that."}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "Well I I don't think they"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "No. What? Okay. Concerns"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "me is is that on the the approval"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "by the the the um um um FDA,"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "they said we don't know the full extent"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "of the harms or the benefits until we we"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "um give this to people."}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "Okay. making us the clinical trials."}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "Exactly."}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "Even though they pretended they had"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "clinical trials. Okay. of of 250"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "patients in the"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "the um um"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "fro says two"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "method and and and and so it's a"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "complete"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "bait and and and"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "itch on the side of of fizer."}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "Exactly. So what you're asking for is"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "proper regulatory action"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "which we did not get. I mean that sounds"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "like such a big ask because of"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "corruption in the pharmaceuticals which"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "they don't want to do that. So"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "no. Um um I I I think what's"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "key is is to"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "have"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "um transparent informed consent."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "Um, a access"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "to informationation"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "and data and stop silence and and saying"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "physicians and scientists"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "who show the the um data as it is."}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "So tell me about some of the push back"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "to your paper then and how they want to"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "retract it. So there's a big team out"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "there u um under"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "video"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "of of Pub Pier um aka Pub Smear"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "and and it's basically um um funded and"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "supported"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "through a a a a a group called um um"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "RE traction"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "watch."}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "And we've learned that it's it's"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "basically pharma investors"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "paying people to help rip apart any"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "paper"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "that um um does not support the big"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "pharma"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "narrative."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "Thanksgiving is just a couple weeks"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "away, ladies and gentlemen, which is"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "still enough time to get rid of that"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "turkey neck, sagging neckline, and get"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "compliments around the dinner table. If"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "you haven't tried Gyel's breakthrough"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "neckline lift with MDL technology, you"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "need to pick up the phone or go to"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "genusel.com right now to find out more"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "about it. If you order today, Gyel will"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "include their immediate effects for"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "results you can see in just 12 hours."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "And for Thanksgiving, Genyael's offer"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "gets better. You get the topselling"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "Genusel deep firming vitamin C serum"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "included in the essentials package."}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "You'll give thanks this holiday for 10"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "years off your appearance and everyone"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "will see the difference guaranteed 100%"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "or your money back. That's the Genysel"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "promise. So go to genusel.com/redacted."}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "One more time, that's"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "geniusell.com/redacted."}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "And from now until Thanksgiving, you'll"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "also get their brand new gouacha"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "massager with red light therapy to"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "amplify your results. Also, shipping is"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "free. One more time, head on over to"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "geniusell.com/redacted."}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "Well, I guess that's not surprising. Who"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "who would benefit from retracting a"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "paper like this?"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "You know, obviously an investor."}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "Yeah. But who would benefit if we learn"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "this and then actually give the public"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "informed consent? Well, there's no"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "profit in that."}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "Exactly."}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "what do you think this means for the"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "human body then if you have this inside"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "of you? I mean, I I know there are"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "technologies of people looking into"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "removing this in various ways. We've had"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "people like that on the show, but how"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "does this show in in pathology? Do you"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "think because that's not really what"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "your paper is, so I'm asking you to"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "speculate, but what do you think this"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "actually means in the real world? In our"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "work,"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "we we've looked at bears and and and"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "theirs just shows the the um um um um"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "shortterm risk and and and harm"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "caused by vaccines."}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "Well, but what we don't know I is the um"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "um long-term effect and harm caused by"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "these shots. And I don't think that that"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "we will know"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "in our lifetime or our kids' lifetime"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "the full extent of of harm caused by"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "these."}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "We're saying"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "rises is in and things like"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "cancers"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "and and so that that's partly"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "caused"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "by it. But yeah and a and two"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "we know spike is toxic"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "liid"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "mano particles"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "are also toxic"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "except until"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "we we"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "can measure"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "spike"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "well and and and and"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "rightly."}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "All of our current"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "detox"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "methods are purely speculative"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "and and so are are are people getting"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "better?"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "Sure. except I is the spike level"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "actually going down? Is it staying the"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "the same? Is it going up? And we can't"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "tell un"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "unless it's properly being measured."}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "Right. So, one one of the things your"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "paper says is that the there are higher"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "levels of DNA"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "that in some ca cases hundreds of times"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "higher than current regulatory guidance"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "allows. So, I guess I didn't previously"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "know that there was an allowance and"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "that this went over."}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "How does that happen? In in 1986,"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "the"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "vimmit"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "was 10 picoggrams per dose. In 1996"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "it was changed to 10"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "nanograms per"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "dose except it's for short"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "fragments of of naked DNA which means"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "DNA"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "that is not inside a lipid nano."}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "partical"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "and and it's because if if it is naked"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "DNA"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "in injected"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "into the"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "site, it it falls apart very eas"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "inside a a lipid"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "nano"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "particle. It's It's basically"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "um um"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "it's shielded and it and it's be it's"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "being in injected um um directly"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "into the cells."}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "I mean, I guess it's infuriating,"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "but how do you think I'm thinking of the"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "the arc of the narrative here is that"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "when the COVID vaccine was launched,"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "anyone who said that there is DNA in"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "this vaccine was called a crazy person."}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "How did those people know early, do you"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "think? And then how do we reconcile"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "where we are now?"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "Well, I think"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "I think now"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "the evidence is is building up"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "tremendous"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "a to show these um um"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "shots are not safe or are they a a"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "back"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "at doing as they're"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "um intended to."}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "They are safe in the vial and they're"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "effective at causing harm."}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "Is there anything else that we missed in"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "going over this great paper? Anything"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "else you'd like to add?"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "Retraction"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "Watch"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "is publicly funded. It's a charitable"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "donation"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "and therefore and therefore if if you"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "donate there"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "your tax your"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "um um funds help support things"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "like like getting actual science"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "pulled."}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "Well, it's a shocking paper. Uh, again,"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "I we'll put the screenshot up. It is"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "publicly available, so you can download"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "it. It's not behind a payw wall."}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "Uh, and I really appreciate you coming"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "on Redacted to tell us about it. Um, I"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "want to suggest that you follow Dr."}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "David Speaker on X and read his paper."}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "Thank you so much for sharing this with"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "us."}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "It's been a pleasure to to be"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "here and thank you"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "you for this time."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:01", "text": "We're not going to have fun with this"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "next story. It is a big win for the"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "communist country of Canada and a"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "terrible day for Canadian farmers. The"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "Supreme Court of Canada has rejected an"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "appeal by the Universal Ostrich Farm to"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "stop the killing of its 400 ostriches by"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "the terrorist Canadian Food Inspection"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "Agency, which has been terrorizing them"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "for the past couple of weeks and months."}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "Now, they've got the blessing of the"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "Supreme Court because the Supreme Court"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "is not going to hear this. They've"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "rejected that appeal and now they're on"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "their way to start killing or continue"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "the killing of these ostriches there in"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "British Columbia. It's a sad day for"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "Canada. It's a sad day for freedom. It's"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "a sad day for farmers. And we wanted to"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "bring in David Kraden from Ottawa,"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "Canada, who's been closer to this to"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "this story and trying to get this the"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "message out about this story than"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "anybody. I know you spoke, David, to"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "Katie Pitney, who runs the Universal"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "Ostrich Farm there, and I know you spoke"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "to her a short time ago. But what is she"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "telling you?"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "Well, Katie is so close to complete"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "exhaustion because of what she's been"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "through this morning. I I called her"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "before I put her on the show because I"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "said, \"Katie, can you do it?\" Because it"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "was literally minutes after the Supreme"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "Court put their decision up on social"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "media, up on the internet. They posted"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "their decision. It was just basically"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "five or six words coming down to"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "dismissal and that was it. And so Katie"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "came on the show and of course she was"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "very very distraught. She was in tears"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "and she said that the CFIA, the Canadian"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "Food Inspection Agency, I know you were"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "you were having a little trouble with"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "that one, but"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "I I don't even want to give them I don't"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "even want to pronounce their official"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "name."}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "It's kind of like the CIA with an F in"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "it. And you can guess what the F stands"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "for, but it this is an organization that"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "was setting up guns this morning. And"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "Katie said that they were setting up"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "guns in the midst of this this hay hay"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "bin death area that they have they have"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "erected there. Yeah, you can see it in"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "the picture. These are this is piles"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "pile bales of hay that they they piled"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "around and it's it's being called a"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "death zone, death pit for the ostriches."}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "And apparently the CFIA have set up"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "automatic rifles or some kind of I don't"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "think these are machine guns, but"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "they're looks like their intention is to"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "shoot the animals. We thought for quite"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "some time that they were going to gas"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "the animals as they usually have done"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "using carbon dioxide. Right."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:01", "text": "How can they get you to stop eating"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "meat? Well, they will kill the cows, and"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "that's exactly what they're doing. This"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "is a really disturbing story. Pay"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "attention to how they're doing this. You"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "can't make this up. Denmark just made it"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "illegal to raise cattle without giving"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "them drugs. Farmers are being forced by"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "law to feed their cows a government"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "approved chemical that supposedly stops"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "them from farting too much to stop"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "producing methane. The chemical is"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "called BI, a methane blocking enzyme"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "inhibitor made by a global biotech giant"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "called DSM Fermanetch, which they say"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "it'll save the planet. They say on their"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "website that it's safe for humans and"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "cows. But in Denmark, where the use of"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "BI just became mandatory, farmers there"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "are reporting that their cows are"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "getting sick and then just dropping"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "dead."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "Of course, that's the point. These"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "globalists who support the drug won't"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "don't want these cows and they certainly"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "don't want you eating meat. Under this"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "new green tripart uh tripartite"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "agreement, Danish farmers have to feed"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "their cows bare for 80 days every year"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "whether they like it or not. And if they"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "don't comply, well, they're breaking the"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "law. You will go to prison. Farmers are"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "furious, but they have no choice. Of"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "course, other EU countries are planning"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "to follow in Denmark's footsteps. Now,"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "once this chemical is added, many cows"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "won't even touch their feed. They don't"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "eat, and then they're dying. A Danish"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "dairy farmer, uh, Huber Van Dorp,"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "explains his personal experiences with"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "the Bare feed additive. He says it has"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "affected the health of his cows, causing"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "symptoms such as high fevers, mastitis,"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "fatigue, and even the death of his cows."}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "Watch."}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "Fore"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "some stoch."}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "So we"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "So"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "they're literally killing cows to save"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "the planet. But the bureaucrats don't"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "care because it's all about controlling"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "farmers. But more importantly, they're"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "ignoring the truth and the real science."}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "Cow farts are destroying the planet."}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "Methane from livestock makes up less"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "than 5% of the global greenhouse gas"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "emissions. And as we've reported here on"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "the show before, compost piles, rice"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "patties, landfills, wetlands, they"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "release far more methane than cattle"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "ever could. Cows have been burping and"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "farting for thousands of years."}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "Long before SUVs or private jets, the"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "earth was fine and it will still be"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "fine. Uh last week on the show, Natalie"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "explained how here in the US, Bill Gates"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "wants to vaccinate cows and lower the"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "methane output. He's backing a company"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "called Arc Ario. Uh Gates says that"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "livestock is the problem. He's also"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "backing a US company called"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "uh Ruminate which provides these"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "additives to food. So it's coming to the"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "United States. We need to stop it right"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "now. Here on Redacted, we interviewed"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "Casey Atkinson. She's a Wyoming rancher"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "who said you can't just focus on"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "methane. You have to look at the whole"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "ecosystem and realize what you're doing"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "is just, you know, you're going to be"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "destroying the entire ecosystem. You"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "can't take just a single aspect of"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "cattle production which are the methane"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "emissions and pull that out without"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "understanding the implications to a full"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "ecosystem or imple or understanding the"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "whole role that cattle play in that"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "ecosystem and maintaining rangeands and"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "mitigating drought and reducing wildfire"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "danger um along with most importantly"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "providing an incredibly important food"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "source um for people across the world."}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "So, you're destroying these ecosystems."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "Casey also said that this whole idea"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "that methane is a problem is just"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "ridiculous. Nature takes care of itself"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "that cattle are releasing when they're"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "digesting that cellulose that's in those"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "plants is what's causing the methane to"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "occur. Um, they're belching it out into"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "the atmosphere. It's this whole cycle."}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "It's this constant recycling of"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "essentially the same product. Methane"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "will break down in 9 to 12 years in the"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "atmosphere where the plants can then"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "have access to it again. And so the"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "methane emissions that cattle or any"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "room and animals are eating, it's not"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "anything new, right? It has existed as"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "long as plants and animals have existed."}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "So this goes back I mean for how many"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "years? Hundreds of years that we've had"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "to deal with this. So why is it suddenly"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "a crisis? Because they found a new way"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "to guilt you out of eating meat. This is"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "about power, not pollution. If they can"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "convince you that cows are evil, then"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "they can control your food. And who"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "profits? It's the same corporate elites"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "pushing fake meat, lab grown protein and"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "Cricut powder. They're not saving the"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "earth. They're building a monopoly on"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "what you eat. They make the chemicals"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "that kill the cows and they sell you the"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "synthetic steak that replaces it. Of"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "course, the irony is most of these"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "plant-based and lab grown meat factories"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "create more waste and methane than"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "actual cattle ranches. The difference is"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "those emissions don't threaten the"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "political narrative. The climate priests"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "don't care about the facts at all. They"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "care about obedience and control. Notice"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "almost every story we cover on Redacted"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "is about control. These globalists who"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "want to control your life and and this"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "is their plan. Let me break it down for"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "you. It's just like a simple few-step"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "process. Number one, make real meat"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "unsustainable. Make it a problem. If"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "they have to get in the way, they make"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "it a problem. Step two, overregulate"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "farmers until they quit and they sell"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "their farms. Step three, feed you"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "patented lab sludge. Fake meat in the"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "name of saving the planet like this. Lab"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "grown meat is now on our storeshelves."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "Florida has already banned it. Texas"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "banned it. They use human cancerous"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "tumors to make this meat. Bill Gates is"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "behind one of these companies and is now"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "suing the state of Texas over banning of"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "this fake meat. And Alex Jones just"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "posted a thing about being pissed about"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "this. Watch. You are about to see"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "total proof that the US government"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "has created a long-term program and a"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "plan to replace all forms of real meat,"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "salmon,"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "tilapia, beef, chicken, turkey,"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "duck,"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "pork"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "with human cancer cells from a black"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "woman that's mass-produced. So, you're"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "not just eating dead people, you're"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "eating a dead black woman who had the"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "most aggressive, fast growing cancer"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "ever recorded."}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "Now, Texas and 10 other states have just"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "banned it. Bill Gates has sued, as of"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "yesterday, the state of Texas with his"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "two companies"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "to force Texans to eat lab grown fake"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "meat cultured with immortal cell lines"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "from Henry Edelax and others."}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "Did Did you hear what I just told you?"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "So loud grown meat."}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "Florida has already banned it. Texas"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "banned it. They use human cancerous"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "tumors to make this meat. Bill Gates is"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "behind, of course, one of the companies"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "and is now suing the state of Texas over"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "banning this fake meat."}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "So, this is the new war on meat. They"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "don't want cleaner cows. They want fewer"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "farms. They want fewer cows. They want"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "fewer people to eat real food. It's"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "absolutely disgusting. How many of you,"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "by the way, I mean, how many of you have"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "seen this like fake meat on store"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "shelves? How many of you actually seen"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "this?"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "When you guys would go to the store, do"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "you guys see this fake meat anywhere?"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "I You know, it's like I guess you have"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "to look closely to see if this stuff is"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "lab grown at this point."}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "Well, in some of the I remember it being"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "on the menu at some of the big chains"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "like Burger King and stuff and now it's"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "not there anymore. Like nobody wants it."}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "Like it should be obvious nobody wants"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "this stuff."}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "It's just sitting there. I mean, if"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "people can read the labels on it, like"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "they can figure this out."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "Uh, it's disgusting."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:01", "text": "Well, a new study shows that suicide"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "prevention for young people does not"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "work. This disturbing truth though"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "behind this that they do not admit is"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "that mental health professionals never"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "had any proof that they did. So all of"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "this stuff we see saturated in young"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "people. Suicide hotline, suicide"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "prevention, suicide education. They"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "never had any data that any of it would"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "work. Meaning they've been experimenting"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "on children in real time. All the while,"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "the suicide rate has gone up for young"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "people. Now, if you're a parent of"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "school-aged kids, you know this that"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "kids hear about suicide all the time"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "these days. All the time. It's not just"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "in school, but other places, too. My"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "son, he joined a swim team, and they"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "said, \"Oh, this year we have a a mental"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "health coach to go along with the swim"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "team.\" I looked at the permission slip"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "and it said that this person would call"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "the authorities if they thought that"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "there was something that some flag in my"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "son that they would bring in other"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "people. I was like, \"No, thank you."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "Absolutely not. We're not having other"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "people talk to him about mental health"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "and suicide prevention.\" My daughter, I"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "took her to the doctor because she had"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "pneumonia. I said, I checked in online."}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "They said, \"Oh, well, this form is for"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "her.\" I looked at it. Three questions."}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "One, have you ever attempted to hurt"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "yourself? have you ever thought about"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "suicide? And number three, have you ever"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "thought about violently hurting your"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "family or friends? And I said,"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "absolutely not. She I handed the"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "clipboard right back. She will not be"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "filling this out. And this practice"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "needs to do the research about social"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "contagion of suicide and violence. Uh it"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "was just a receptionist. She looked at"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "me with wide eyes and just took it back."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "I was furious, but suicide talk is"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "everywhere, you guys, for young people."}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "Everywhere. How can you constantly tell"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "ch children that some people deal with"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "pain by killing themselves and then"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "think that you are preventing it? Uh"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "maybe people working in the suicide"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "industry are well meant, but for all"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "their focus on suicide, they really only"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "get part of it. According to a 2022 New"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "Yorker piece, the rates of teen suicide"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "have doubled from 2007 to 2017,"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "incidentally, when it became common"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "place to talk about it. But suicide,"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "like every other mental condition, has"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "an element of social contagion. And"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "psychologists have known this for"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "decades and they ignore the data."}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "Anything, anything PTSD, you get more of"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "it. Bulimia, anorexia, transgenderism,"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "we've seen that happen right before our"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "very eyes. Incidentally, reporters know"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "this, too. My first job was a reporter"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "in the San Francisco Bay Area. Every"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "newspaper and media outlet in the San"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "Francisco Bay area has a rule against"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "covering Golden Bridge, Golden Gate"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "Bridge. So, suicides, we just don't do"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "it because we know that it romanticizes"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "it to a point where we get more. Here's"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "how Abigail Shrier puts it in her book,"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "Bad Therapy, that the virality of"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "suicide and self harm is"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "wellestablished. Study after study has"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "shown that media reports of suicide"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "increases incidents. And in fact, since"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "the 80s, there was a study in Austria"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "that proved just that. And yet, we put"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "put this on our children over and over"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "again. Here's one study she found that"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "is currently given out to children in"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "Delaware. It says, \"The next three"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "questions will be asking you about"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "attempted suicide.\" And the question"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "says, sometimes people feel so depressed"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "about the future that they may consider"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "attempting suicide or killing"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "themselves. That's suggestive that"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "showing them like if you feel bad, this"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "is how some people deal with it. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "they would never have otherwise"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "considered that they are absolutely"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "saturated."}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "Nobody studied the effectiveness or the"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "danger of giving that to kids. They just"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "did it. They just experimented on those"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "kids. Uh so we have a right to be mad."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "What the JAMAMA study does not show uh"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "though is that actually I'm jumping"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "ahead of myself. Um what the JAMAMA"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "study does show is that none of this"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "helps. They analyzed cognitive behavior"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "therapy, socialbased uh prevention"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "programs, medication, crisis lines,"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "gatekeeper training. None of these"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "showed any reduction in suicide rates in"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "teens or young adults. Uh and again they"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "were never proven that they did. adult"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "adults just sort of wiggled their way in"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "and started trying this [ __ ] out. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "now another link that the article"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "ignores besides contagion is"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "anti-depressant drugs or SSRIs. For many"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "of them, the known side effect is"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "suicidality. It's on the label. So"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "maybe, do you think that that's working"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "against you given how many kids now are"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "put on anti-depressants and the suicide"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "rates are up? The article ignores that."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "It's crazy. Just this week, HHS"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "Secretary RFK Jr. said that the"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "government is going to be looking at"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "that. He says the CDC is finally going"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "to confront this issue about whether"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "SSRIs and other psychoactive drugs"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "contribute to mass violence and violence"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "against yourself, suicide as well. You"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "should watch the video that's here. I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "only going to show you the first 20"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "seconds from a 1991 FDA hearing on the"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "matter. This is not new."}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "The topic for today's advisory committee"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "meeting is the possibility of a causal"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "linkage between the emergence and/or"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "intensification of suicidal thoughts and"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "acts, suicidality that is andor other"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "violent behaviors and the use of"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "anti-depressant drugs."}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "Now, another thing that we've seen in"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "our community happen is that this"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "suicide education puts a heavy emphasis"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "on recognizing it in your friends. If"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "you see something in your friend, tell"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "on them, tell an adult, report it. The"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "problem is when you put this emphasis on"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "policing, then if this happens in your"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "community, the surviving members feel"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "guilt. And in fact, this happened in my"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "son's freshman year. There was a girl"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "who took her life. She was on the cheer"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "team and then almost all of the"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "cheerleaders"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "were on suicide watch because they felt"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "like they had missed it. They felt like"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "it was their problem that they didn't"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "catch it because for so many years"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "education had been telling them to catch"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "this in your friends. You should not put"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "this on children. It's the adults that"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "should own this stuff, not their peers."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "Full stop. But think about it. This also"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "gives the government now the power to"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "analyze and track these kids under the"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "guise of mental health. And something"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "Philip has said many times on this show"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "that the law of the land allows you to"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "refuse medical treatment. It does not"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "allow you to refuse mental health"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "treatment. So if the government thinks"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "that you are a mental health risk, you"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "belong to them. That's why I tell my"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "children all the time, no school"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "surveys, no conversations about mental"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "health in school, nothing that can give"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "the school the power to track you. Put"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "something on a record that will stay on"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "your record your whole life. Nothing."}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "Not even like how often does your family"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "eat dinner together? Do your parents"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "help with homework? Nothing. They are It"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "is Laasa Nostra in this house. And I"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "think that you should tell your kids the"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "same. Now, back to that JAMAMA study"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "showing that suicide prevention does not"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "work. What the authors conclude is that"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "they need novel"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "developmentally and traumainformed"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "treatments and multi-level"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "interventions. I don't know what the"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "hell this is. What does this mean?"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "They've just admitted that they failed"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "and now they're saying we're going to"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "try some other weird [ __ ] Uh my what my"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "vote would be is that the people who"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "failed to stop suicide and may have made"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "it worse should not be the ones to come"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "up with what comes next, especially if"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "they're ignoring social contagion and"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "anti-depressants as a cause. So f those"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "people is what I want to say. Uh let me"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "know what you think of this. It's a very"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "sensitive topic and I'm furious at how"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "we failed these people by just"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "experimenting on them. It's awful. All"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "right. F these people. I appreciate"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "that."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Well, it's been a remarkable night to"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "watch all of the sort of hand ringing"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "from Fox News and other Israel first"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "news outlets as to how in the world did"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "a Muslim become the next mayor of New"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "York City? Why did so many New York Jews"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "vote for a Muslim socialist, Zohan Zoran"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "Mami, and not vote for a grandma killer,"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "Andrew Cuomo? It's an interesting"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "question. Almost 70% of young New York"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "City Jews voted for a Muslim mayor who"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "vowed to divest from Israel instead of"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "focusing on New York City. Mandami"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "literally said he was concerned about"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "Israel. He was concerned. He wasn't"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "concerned about Israel. He's concerned"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "about New York. Watch."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "Mayor Adams just signed this deal"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "between New York City and Israel to"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "launch this New York City Israel"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "economic council to strengthen economic"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "ties between the two. Would you consider"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "that council? Would you continue it? I"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "think that what we need is a mayor who"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "is squarely focused on the affairs of"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "New York City."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "He's looking for an economic tie here."}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "So, you're saying it's a no. You would"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "not consider politics aside of what Eric"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "Adams is trying to do. Is it a good idea"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "to have this partnership with Israel for"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "the economic ties?"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "That's not something that I would"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "pursue."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "Okay. Overall, a third of New York City"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "Jews voted for a Muslim who's not really"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "interested in Israel at all. According"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "to the exit polling, older Jews voted"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "for Cuomo, who's cozy with Netanyahu, of"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "course. Mammi, by the way, who is cozy"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "with the Soros family. So, I guess pick"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "your poison, really. So, in the end, it"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "was the Jewish vote that really carried"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "Mam Dami into office."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Well, imagine looking up at the night"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "sky and instead of stars, what do you"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "see? You see a fleet of artificial"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "mirrors, giant massive, massive mirrors"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "hurtling overhead,"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "redirecting sunlight back down to Earth,"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "so it would be sunny at nighttime. That"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "scenario isn't science fiction anymore."}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "We know we've heard talks of like"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "dimming the sun, but what about"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "amplifying it? Sunlight on demand, as"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "they say on their website. This is a"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "company called Reflect Orbital. It's"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "proposing to launch some 4,000 massive"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "space mirrors. This is what it would"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "look like in cartoon form."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "And it would beam solar power back to"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "the Earth. These mirrors would then"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "redirect sunlight back to Earth, hitting"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "solar panels. But astronomers are"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "warning that from an astron astronomical"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "perspective, it's pretty catastrophic."}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "Reflect orbital claims on its website"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "that its constellation will enable solar"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "power power generation at night. It'll"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "make crops grow better and stronger."}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "Possibly replace urban lighting. No more"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "street lights at night. Just have giant"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "mirrors in the sky. Provide emergency"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "illumination in disaster zones. Enable"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "people to work at nighttime."}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "Reflect Orbital's spokesperson told"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "space.com in an email that by 2030 the"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "company envisions a constellation of"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "4,000 of these satellites around the"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "world. So, what could go wrong? Chris"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "Leato is a F-16 pilot, a material"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "scientist, UFO and space researcher, and"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "he joins me now to talk all about this."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "Chris, great to see you here. Welcome to"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "the show."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "Yeah. Hi, Clayton. Thanks for having me."}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "My pleasure. So, when you first heard"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "about this story, what was your initial"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "response?"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "My initial response is, you know, are we"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "putting lasers in space? You know, are"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "we putting weapons in space? But, uh,"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "yeah, looking into it more, I think it's"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "actually really interesting. You know, I"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "think high latitude places like Alaska"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "could really benefit hugely from this"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "sort of technology. These mirrors could"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "extend daylight and really boost solar"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "energy output pretty much uh around the"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "globe, especially in Yeah. areas like"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "Alaska. I lived there for 4 years and"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "they could definitely use it. You can"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "stare at the sun at noon time in the"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "winter. So, I definitely could have used"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "some sunlight then. Uh they could also"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "use this uh to provide lighting for"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "remote or possibly military operations."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "I think that's why the US Air Force or"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "at least one reason why it's interested."}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "So anywhere you need illumination, it it"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "puts out basically four times the light."}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "They say allegedly four times the light"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "of a full moon. And it was basically a"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "full moon out uh tonight."}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "Yeah. Tonight. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "Yeah. And so, you know, you could see"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "pretty clearly with the with four times"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "uh the light. But I think really why the"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "Air Force is, you know, invested at"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "least small amount 1.25 million. So,"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "it's not a large amount of money that"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "the Air Force has invested, but it's"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "probably in laser optical communication."}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "So, laser internet essentially. I think"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "that's why they're doing it. You need"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "precision control and you know using"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "radio waves can really be intercepted"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "easily. I I was an electronic attack"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "officer um for the aggressors actually"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "in Alaska and you know it's it's wide"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "field anyone can intercept your your"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "radio transmission or it's hard to get a"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "really tight band but if you can shoot a"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "laser now and use that as your optical"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "communication then it's much more secure"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "and so I think they're actually"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "interested in this for uh some sort of"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "laser internet microlastics infiltrating"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "every part of our lives scientists"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "estimate we can now consume a credit"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "card's worth of plastic every single"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "week through our food, water, even the"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "air we breathe. One study found plastic"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "particles in 100% of human lung samples."}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "Nobody is safe from exposure. It gets"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "worse. These plastics don't just sit in"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "our body, they cross the gut lining,"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "leech into your blood. But there's good"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "news. New research on kimchi, that's"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "right, kimchi can actually remove it"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "from your body. Gets rid of BPA,"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "folates, all of that stuff from your"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "body. Kimchi 1 from Brightcore Nutrition"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "does all of that in a pill form. So, in"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "a supplement form. Like if you don't"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "like the taste of kimchi, like eating um"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "you know, fermented cabbage or those"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "other things like with your meal. Some"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "people don't like the taste. Well,"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "that's great. Now, you get all the"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "benefits of kimchi in supplement form."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "It's a potent ally in this toxic world."}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "It's packed with over 900 probiotic"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "strains unique to kimchi and proven to"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "break down BPA, help you detox from the"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "inside out. But it doesn't just support"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "digestion. It helps protect your cells,"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "your brain, your hormones, your future."}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "Your body was never designed to handle"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "plastic. But your gut was designed to"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "protect you. You just have to give it"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "the right tools. Right now, you can get"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "25% off with our code redacted. Just go"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "to the link below. It's"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "mybrightcore.com/redacted"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "to get 25% off. But even better, if you"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "call them, they're an American company."}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "They want to talk with you and develop a"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "relationship. They're Imagine that. It's"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "like going back to the 1950s when you"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "would actually talk to a company. They"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "they'll give you 50% off if you call"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "them. 50 instead of 25% off. Just call"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "them 888446312."}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "Get 50% off and free shipping. So your"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "initial thought was oh they're going to"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "be using this for some weapons and it's"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "under the o it's it's under the opaces"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "of giving us more power you know but"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "underneath it all there's a darker story"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "here. That was your initial thought"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "about this. Makes sense."}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "Yeah, that was my initial thought. Um I"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "I think I guess most people would think"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "that for putting mirrors in space,"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "you're beaming sunlight down, but it's"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "actually the physics of it is doesn't"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "make any sense. You know, it's 700 km"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "away and you can't really even beam that"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "amount of energy. You can't really focus"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "it down. So, it's not like you're"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "burning an ant, you know, with a"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "magnifying glass. Um this is much"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "further away, 700 kilometers. And so I I"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "don't think they're going to be able to"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "focus that energy down to even, you"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "know, heat up a missile. That's what the"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "airborne missile defense system was. If"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "you remember that big 747 the Air Force"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "had um years ago and it was a big iodine"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "laser and that was actually used to"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "shoot ballistic missiles, you know, as"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "their boost in their boost phase. They"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "would actually shoot the laser this"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "idea, the idea was to shoot the laser at"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "the booster while it's launching and"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "then it would warp it essentially and"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "and the missile would fail. So I don't"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "even think they could do that using this"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "sort of technology. I really think it is"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "um to provide illumination and like I"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "said before is precision optical um"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "aiming. You know really a are you able"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "to bounce lasers. You know they did have"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "the Star Wars idea the program in the"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "past if you could shoot a giant laser"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "from the earth then you could bounce it"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "off a mirror in space and then you could"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "have some sort of advanced laser system"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "you know. So, I wouldn't be surprised if"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "that's one of their ideas for using this"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "technology, but I think it it would be"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "much more useful for logistics rather"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "than some sort of weapon system."}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "Uh, I talked to an insider today who is"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "pretty plugged in in this in this"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "regard. I was I was asking this person"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "what do they make of this and I want to"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "get your take on this. This person said,"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "\"The civilian application doesn't seem"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "that compelling, although it might be"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "profitable, that it may have unknown"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "military applications. That would be the"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "real purpose of getting so many up there"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "in space.\" Um, so yes, an unknown"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "military application seems like it might"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "make the most sense, although they're"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "couching it like this would be great for"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "our crops. Like this will be great for"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "your corn and all of that. So we'd have"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "it a little extra sunlight. It'll make"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "our it'll make our crops sturdier. I"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "hadn't thought about the military side"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "of this for sure."}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "Yeah. I guess you know the the most"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "aggressive form of it would be you"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "bounce a giant laser from the ground,"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "right? Putting that sort of power into"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "space doesn't make sense if you're going"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "to use it as a mirror. So I guess, you"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "know, theoretically you could shoot a"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "giant laser from the ground and bounce"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "it around and then hit a target on on"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "the ground, you know, on the other side"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "of the Earth, if you will. But that sort"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "of technology, you know, satellites are"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "very predictable. Um, in order for them"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "not to be predictable, it's very"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "expensive. So, I think it'll actually be"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "more a communication system or advancing"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "the technology for the Air Force and the"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "Space Force. And right now, it's"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "expensive to send satellites into space,"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "right? But we have big breakthroughs"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "coming through. I know people don't like"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "to talk about him, but Elon Musk and his"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "SpaceX program, you know, the Starship,"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "if it actually is able to get to orbit"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "and land, you know, a reusable rocket"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "ship, then instead of this satellite"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "costing $20 million to get up to orbit,"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "you know, this mirror, it could cost $10"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "to $20,000. And in that case, what we"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "could see in the next 10 years is a huge"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "a plethora really a gold rush of space."}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "So using space for these these sort of"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "civilian assets where it won't be"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "ridiculously expensive to send mirrors"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "up into space. It would actually make uh"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "financial sense and then in that case"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "you can actually beam down sunlight you"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "know in the later parts of the day when"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "everyone gets home and when we really"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "need the energy you know your renewable"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "resources right now your batteries"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "haven't come on board yet. They're not"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "quite that cheap. So, this could"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "actually supplement and I could see it"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "actually being commercially viable. Um,"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "where you could actually beam down"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "sunlight from, you know, 7 to 8:00 p.m."}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "7 to 9:00 p.m. and actually get usable"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "uh sunlight energy."}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "So, the question is, what will it do to"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "the night sky? Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "I'm fascinated by this this idea. It"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "just it seems strange to me because we"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "had solar panels and we're about to do"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "them again actually, but you could tell"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "I mean if a cloud moved in front of"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "those the your solar panels, we lived in"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "Portugal like you and uh I think we had"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "like 30 or something solar panels and"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "ran our house, ran our studio and"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "everything, but if a cloud moved in"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "front or just got a little bit dim, you"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "could immediately see it in the system"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "like so I only imagine like having a"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "mirror in space using sunlight light at"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "that far out to direct it down. How much"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "you you know power you would actually"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "get on solar panels. It'd be I don't"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "know. I I don't know if I'm buying that"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "part of it. It sounds like an"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "interesting idea. I just don't know. I"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "don't know. Plus, you'd have to get"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "blackout shades because it'd always be"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "light. I mean, I wonder why the"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "astronomers are so pissed off about"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "this. What's your What's your sense of"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "why astronomers say this could be a"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "catastrophe?"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "Yeah, they've been upset since Starlink"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "started launching so many satellites."}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "you know, you just go outside and and"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "look up and you'll probably see a"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "Starlink satellite. And my channel's"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "focused on, you know, UAP investigation"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "and I constantly get videos of people"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "that say, \"Hey, this is a I saw a UFO. I"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "videoed it and, you know, I look at the"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "video and it's it's a Starlink"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "satellite.\" And even on there's optical"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "illusions from Starlink satellites. So,"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "there's thousands of them now. And so,"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "astronomers are angry because it gets in"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "the way. it gets in the way of their"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "ground telescopes and it, you know,"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "clogs up the night sky. Um, so I think"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "that's what they're really upset about,"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "but I think it's just it's just the"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "future. You know, as soon as we lower"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "the cost to space, there's going to be"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "probably millions of satellites up there"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "for all different types of purposes."}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "So, it's just the future we're going to"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "have to deal with. And as far as"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "astronomy, it's going to be that much"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "cheaper now to put up telescopes into"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "space. And actually a telescope in space"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "is much more capable just like a laser."}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "Um you don't have to deal with the"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "atmosphere. The atmosphere like you just"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "mentioned there the clouds huge factor"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "right in your power generation on your"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "solar panel. Well the telescopes have to"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "deal with that as well. So anytime a"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "cloud comes over a telescope on the"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "ground they're totally out of it. You"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "know they can't see anything. It doesn't"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "matter how many satellites in the sky."}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "So the future of astronomy is also in"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "the space. So they're going to put the"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "telescopes into space. So, I understand"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "why they're upset. Um, but I think,"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "yeah, it's just going to be the future"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "that we're going to have is going to be"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "space industry and the telescopes are"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "going to be up in space."}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "Uh, we won't get to see any of the"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "images, though. They'll keep them hidden"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "from us. We want to look at the moon"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "base. We want to look at the multiple"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "moon bases. We want to see UAPs. We want"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "to we want to get a a close-up of three"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "Atlas. Now, we'll shut those telescopes"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "down for a few hours so we don't get"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "those images, but I I'm with you. I"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "would love to see all these I would love"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "to see space-based telescopes that we"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "would we could access and review on a on"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "a regular basis and then all of us who"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "are obsessed with this topic could be"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "sitting for hours going through footage"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "to uh examine UAPs and everything else"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "that is up there."}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "Well, I'm optimistic that we can get our"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "decentralized"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "our own telescopes up there. Like, you"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "know, we're not a mainstream network"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "right now. This is decentralized"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "networks right here. You know, I I'm not"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "censoring myself at least. I'm not being"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "censored by anyone. Uh I suspect the"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "same for you. So hopefully in the future"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "we can get our own telescopes up that we"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "know um are not being censored by any"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "government agency or organization. I'm"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "sure they don't want to hear me say"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "that, but I really see that as the"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "future as the costs come down. Um you"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "just can't keep reality classified."}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "Oh, I would love that. I would love to"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "have the Lato Files telescope working"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "side by side with the redacted telescope"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "in space."}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "Amazing."}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "Where we would have our own"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "decentralized network and no one can"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "censor us. I would love that. I would"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "love it. Chris, great to see you."}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "Thank you so much for this and I you"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "made me a little bit more optimistic"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "about this. I was, you know, initially a"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "little worried about it, but I think"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "you've uh you've opened my eyes,"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "especially on the Alaska perspective."}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "But we'll see. We'll see what sort of"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "nefarious military applications they're"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "hiding here. Chris, great to see you."}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "Thank you so much. Thanks for staying up"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "late for us there in Portugal. I know"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "it's late."}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "Yeah, thanks Clayton. And yeah, happy"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "you were here in Portugal. Have a great"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "rest of your day."}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "Yeah, thank you so much."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "But it it this is an organization that"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "was setting up guns this morning. Katie"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "said that they were setting up guns in"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "the midst of this this hay hay bin death"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "area that they have they have erected"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "there. Yeah, you can see it in the"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "picture. These are this is piles pile"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "bales of hay that they they piled around"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "and it's it's being called a death zone,"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "death pit for the ostriches. And"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "apparently CFIA have set up automatic"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "rifles or some kind of I don't think"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "these are machine guns, but they're"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "looks like their intention is to shoot"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "the animals. We thought for quite some"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "time that they were going to gas the"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "animals as they usually have done using"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "carbon dioxide, but I think it would be"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "a logistical nightmare to get them off"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "of the farm in trucks to to truck them"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "to a site where they could do this. I I"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "think that's probably what they're"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "doing. I'm not seeing any new footage"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "from the farm today. They've sealed it"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "off entirely. I don't even know if"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "people are able to get up on that hill"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "where that last video was shot from a a"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "very good vantage point using a zoom"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "lens because they have done everything"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "to seal the area off and done everything"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "in as clandestine operations usually in"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "at night. But I'll tell you this,"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "Clayton, it's interesting. What I'm"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "hearing today is that the count of"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "ostriches Remember, we started at 399 at"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "the beginning of this whole horrid"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "affair. And people are saying today that"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "they can't see more than a hundred"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "hostages."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Well, are we about to see major UFO"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "disclosure coming from the US"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "government? UFO researcher and"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "documentarian James Fox has just spoken"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "to number of key witnesses who've seen"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "and done remarkable things not only with"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "UFOs themselves."}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "Yes, alien craft and the reverse"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "engineering of these craft, but also"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "alien bodies. and they're ready to come"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "forward and break their non-disclosure"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "agreements and tell the world if Trump"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "would simply sign their NDAs. Here's"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "Eric Davis. Watch this."}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "Where's the proof? We have alien"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "spaceships in our possession, we have"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "bodies. Where and why can't I get the"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "specifics to verify those claims? If the"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "president of the United States issued an"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "executive order that"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "absolves me of all of my TSSCI NDAs,"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "NDAs are non-disclosure agreements."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "Those are the agreements we have to sign"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "for every compartment in our SCI"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "clearances. So if the president waves or"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "absolves my obligation to those NDAs and"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "I get subpoenaed by Congress, some"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "somebody on Capitol Hill, some committee"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "either in the Senate or the House or the"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "both to reveal everything I know that I"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "learned from my investigations both"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "unclassified and classified into the"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "legacy UAP crash retrieval and hardware"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "reverse engineering and NA NHI programs."}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "I would do so."}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "I would do so."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "James Fox joins us now. His latest"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "project is called Moment of Contact: New"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "Revelations of Alien Encounters. I think"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "what James is doing is is groundbreaking"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "and across many of his documentaries."}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "And I'm I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled that"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "he's become part of our show here. And I"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "love having James on. So, James, welcome"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "back to the show. Great to see you, my"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "friend."}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "Thank Thank you so much for having me"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "on. I really appreciate it."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "I love your work, man. And I got to tell"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "you, I got goosebumps when I saw that"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "clip from your new movie, Moment of"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "Contact, because here you have somebody"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "saying, \"Now it's now the ball's not in"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "my court anymore, right? Like, I've"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "worked on these projects. I'm calling on"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "President Trump to absolve me of these"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "ridiculous NDAs, which I think are"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "horrible to begin with, and let's tell"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "everyone what I've been working on.\" And"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "I think it's I got chills. Now, imagine"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "an event"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "uh in the near notsodistant future where"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "you have 10 more of him making a plea to"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "President Trump and then you have"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "firstirhand witnesses to crash"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "retrievals. Think about that scenario."}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "And is that about to happen? So, I mean,"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "maybe you're like letting the cat out of"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "the bag a little bit. 10 more just like"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "Eric Davis that could be"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "I Yeah, there's there's big big plans."}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "This is not just another documentary"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "coming out. This is a movement behind"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "the documentary. And I think Age of"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "Disclosure, Dan Farah, is going to"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "really kick the doors open because it's"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "got a much more mainstream appeal. Um,"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "but you know, one of the things that we"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "did with this new version of Moment of"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "Contact, it's got an entirely brand new"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "20-minute opening, which I really felt"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "like people's frustration with the"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "congressional hearings. You've got, you"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "know, in 2023, you've got this high"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "level intelligence officer, David Grush,"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "and he's making these extraordinary"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "claims of alien"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "aliens in captivity, alien spacecraft,"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "and uh not really necessarily, certainly"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "openly providing the details needed to"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "verify those claims. Obviously, there's"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "a lot more going on in a skiff behind"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "the scenes. I talked to Eric Burls,"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "Congressman Burlesson recently about"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "going into a skiff with uh with Grush. I"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "said, \"How was it?\" He goes, Pretty eye"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "opening."}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "So, you know, uh, and now we have for"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "the first time in history, this has"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "never happened before. I mean, I've made"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "a lot of documentaries. We've got a"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "neurosurgeon,"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "not anonymous,"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "revealing his uh, you know, identity"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "publicly. He still works at the hospital"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "and he's claiming face-to-face contact"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "with a live alien and communication for"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "four minutes at Regional Hospital and"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "he's still the head neurosurgeon there"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "today."}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "So, we have a clip of that I believe."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "Um, this is part of your documentary."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "Here's the neurosurgeon and it's it's"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "subtitles. So, um, you know, I'll I'll"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "just read the screen here, but here is"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "that Brazilian doctor. Listen."}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "is today in S. Paulo."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "Foreigne"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "speech."}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "Sit down."}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "And you were learning that from him?"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "Oh, are you kidding me? I mean, I So, we"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "went back to Brazil a number of times"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "since the film came out because this is"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "an ongoing investigation for me. I've"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "been at it 16 years. My partner Marco"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "Leal has been at it 22 years. Um, you"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "know, we're the more we dig, the more we"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "uncover. And we met with two forensic"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "pathologists. Uh, Dr. Armando who did"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "the autopsy on the deceased military"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "officer who got a scratch under his arm"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "from the creature. It wasn't anything"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "malicious. He just grabbed it and he got"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "a little scratch and he died a couple"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "weeks later. Um that bacteria"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "had got into his bloodstream and killed"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "him. He was 23 years old. And then the"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "forensic pathologist uh who actually"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "founded the company IPD that um that"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "performed the tissue samples studied the"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "tissue samples from the deceased"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "military officer Dr. Janini are coming"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "forward, just came forward for the first"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "time on camera to participate in the"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "film, saying in all the years they've"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "been doing what they're doing, they've"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "never seen a bacteria perform like this."}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "It was an advanced bacteria, an evolved"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "bacteria, never seen anything like it"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "before, never seen anything like it"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "since. They gave us a uh a a full"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "detailed autopsy report with comments"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "below which we're in the process of"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "having transcribed and uh we'll be"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "making those available to the public as"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "well. And uh and they're coming forward."}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "We've got the former chief of police"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "now. Uh we got him to come forward. So"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "um new witness who allegedly saw the the"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "craft in in distress, the big"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "cylindrical shaped uh craft. So lots of"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "new evidence. And then of course we got"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "the what's happening on the American"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "side, right? You've got all these claims"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "of crash retrieval and aliens. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "it's pretty extraordinary claims. I I"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "understand that. I don't think that"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "mainstream is quite in a able to process"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "this. So, I fused the two together. I"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "took the all the congressional hearings"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "very quickly. I didn't get bogged down"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "because I know people have had enough of"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "that. I'd also talked to some people"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "like Eric Davis, aerospace engineer and"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "people that were in the skips listening"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "to and meeting with the firsthand"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "witnesses, not secondhand, firsthand"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "talked about that. What was that like?"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "Then I go and explore a number of cases"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "over the decades. And then we say, but"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "the best most well doumented modern case"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "took place in 1996. And then we go to"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "Virginia, Brazil, and now we've got the"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "most compelling firsthand eyewitness"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "testimony the world has ever seen in my"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "humble opinion."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "So with Eric Davis specifically and a"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "lot of people are wondering, you know,"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "the technologies that we have access to."}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "This has been my thing is like I I Yes."}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "I want to see craft. I want to see proof"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "of all of this. I want to, you know,"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "certainly alien bodies. Everyone wants"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "to see that so we can all just shut up"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "about it's all just it's not it's all"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "fake. It's all fake. I want to see it."}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "But the energy sources you know, like we"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "talk about gas prices, we talk about,"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "you know, like we're our home heating"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "for the winter and we talk about travel"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "and, you know, see all these airlines"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "that are being shut down because of the"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "government shutdown right now. It's"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "like, but I think maybe I don't want to"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "put words in your mouth, our government"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "has access to this incredible"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "technology, whether it's anti-gravity"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "technology or otherwise, able enable us"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "to travel incredible distances in a"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "short amount of time, but we don't have"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "access to it. They do. And I would hope"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "that that's maybe part of this movement."}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "What do you think?"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "Well, you know, it's one of the things I"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "I think we're going to learn more about"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "in Age of Disclosure. Dan Farah's"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "upcoming film that worked with Lou"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "Alzando. I think it's extraordinary what"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "he's managed to get done. Uh all the"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "high level military and government"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "officials talking about exactly that,"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "the race to to understand and reverse"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "engineer this technology. Now, um I'm"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "obviously convinced that we have it. Um"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "I think we could convince any jury at"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "this point that there's a high level of"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "certainty that we do are in possession"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "of it. As far as exactly from observed"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "from all the observations of UAP UFOs"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "around the world, they're clearly"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "exhibiting a technology that's not"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "running around on jet A fuel. I think we"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "can all agree on that. Um so if whoever"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "can manage to harness this technology"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "first, I mean obviously I hate to say"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "this, but the military generally likes"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "to weaponize things. So that's obviously"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "a national security issue, but uh yeah,"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "it's certainly not running around on jet"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "A fuel. It could replace it could it"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "could be amazing and I think it's one of"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "the things that they talk about in age"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "of disclosure. But yeah, is I'm"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "convinced we have it. As far as how much"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "progress we've made, I'm not sure."}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "Finally, on the NDA question, I mean,"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "how do you think that we're going to see"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "any movement from the Trump"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "administration, members of Congress to"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "make a move on that to get rid of these"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "NDAs so we can hear fully transparently"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "what they're working on? So that's as"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "far as we can take it, right? We can"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "provide on a silver platter to the"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "current administration and say, \"Here we"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "got all these witnesses. Here's crash"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "retrieval witnesses. They're willing to"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "testify to Senate, you know, with"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "translators, but we have all these"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "people and the aerospace engineer and"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "all the people at DoD and DIA, and"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "they're all getting up and saying,"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "\"Look, provided I would you wave the"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "magic wand and provide me immunity, uh,"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "I will testify to a bipartisan group of"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "lawmakers under oath tomorrow and give"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "you the details needed to verify these"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "claims.\" And that's all we can do as"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "citizens, right? So, I I think the Trump"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "administration might just go for it. I I"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "I'm optimistic."}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "Well, I'm optimistic. Tell me about the"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "film. Where can people see it? And I"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "can't wait. I'm I'm very excited to to"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "watch your next film, Moment of Contact."}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "Oh, thank you so much. So, it'll be uh"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "Amazon Prime, and we're we're waiting"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "about a month till after age of"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "disclosure comes. So, it'll be uh"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "landing probably on or around the 20th"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "of December. and I will be hopefully you"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "can have me back on again and I can"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "share all the all the appropriate links."}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "Oh, absolutely. Yeah. And I'm sure"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "there's quite a few revelations you'll"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "be revealing uh as the documentary"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "unfolds. So, we'd love to have you back"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "on in December once it goes live. So,"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "very much looking forward to that. So,"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "James Fox, great to see you. I know"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "you're a busy man getting the final"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "edits done, getting all this wrapped up"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "before showtime. So, thank you so much"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "for your work on this as always. Great."}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "I appreciate your I appreciate your"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "support very much. Thank you for having"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "me on."}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "You bet. Space jams."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "The the Charlie Kirk murder has like"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "everything like this in modern times now"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "led to a plethora of conspiracy theories"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "raging around."}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "And I had uh Rob O'Neil, who was a Navy"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "Seal who killed Osama bin Laden on last"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "week on Monday, saying that he's there"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "were a lot of questions he felt just"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "didn't quite stack up with it."}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "everything you've seen about the"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "shooter, what happened, the fact it was"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "a single bullet. Um the way he was able"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "to put together his gun, dismantle his"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "gun, get away, and so on, the the weird"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "text messaging with his transitioning"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "boyfriend and so on. Um what do you make"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "of it all? Do you think there are"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "unanswered questions with this? Does it"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "make sense to you?"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "Oh, absolutely. There are unanswered"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "questions. uh it doesn't make sense to"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "me completely and I think that's why"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "there are conspiracy theories that are"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "popping up around the shooting."}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "The problem is that like so much of what"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "happens in the real world, there are"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "areas that are protected, areas of"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "information that are not available to"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "the public. So the public doesn't get a"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "full picture. You were just talking"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "about the the emergence of new media."}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "Part of the the un unexpected or"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "possibly uh unproductive side effect of"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "that new media is that we now know more"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "of what we don't know. Yes."}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "Whereas in the past when what didn't"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "when we didn't know we didn't even"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "realize we had a gap of information."}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "What is the stuff when you look at that"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "Shulie? What's the stuff where you with"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "your former CIA had on go that's a bit"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "weird."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "So, first of all, the fact that there's"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "really no significant new information"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "since about September 19th, that's"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "[ __ ] weird, man. Right? Like, how how"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "how is this so significant that we're"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "having national"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "uh days of silence for Charlie Kirk? How"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "is it so significant that it's making"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "international media day after day, but"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "we can't get new information? We still"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "don't know what the motive was. We're"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "having people like like the uh like the"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "transgender roommatelover"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "disappear and and nobody's talking to"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "him and there doesn't seem to be a large"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "manhunt."}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "No, I don't think there's an autopsy"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "report yet. I don't think we've had an"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "autopsy."}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "Exactly. So, this is information that"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "doesn't seem unreasonable"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "to share and yet it's not being shared."}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "So, the question becomes why? There's"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "lots of legitimate reasons why it"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "wouldn't be shared yet,"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "but that's not good enough for us with"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "our current appetite. From a from a"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "technical"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "point of view about the shooting itself,"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "for a 22-year-old who's not military"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "trained, to be able to get up on that"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "roof, put together a gun, then dismantle"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "it, fire off one shot with a bolt-action"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "rifle that belonged to his grandfather"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "reportedly, and and get away. But to be"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "able to assassinate somebody in that"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "clinical manner, does that seem likely"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "or is there something we don't know"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "about what this kid was doing before all"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "this?"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "We look at everything in intelligence"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "through a lens of probability."}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "Uh anything is a possibility, but what"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "are the probabilities that it played out"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "the way that we're being told? So when I"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "think of his age and I think about the"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "fact that he grew up in a hunting family"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "and I think about the fact that he was"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "familiar with that particular weapon, he"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "was familiar with the campus. He had"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "what we call the advantage of area"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "familiar uh area familiarity area fam."}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "He had all of those benefits that"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "Charlie and Charlie's team did not have."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "Plus of course he had the element of"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "surprise on his side."}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "But when it comes to the technical"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "elements of being able to handle that"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "weapon, I tend to agree more with Rob."}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "It doesn't make sense how unless he"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "spent hours in premeditation"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "assembling and disassembling his gun. He"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "already had his ingress and his egress"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "route planned. He already knew where he"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "was going to stash the weapon. He had a"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "plan to to succeed. His dad is the"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "reason his plan to disappear. Ultimately"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "didn't succeed. And that was obviously a"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "variable he didn't account for. So that"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "is it possible that he prepared"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "to the extent that he needed to prepare"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "to run such an effective operation?"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "Yeah, it's possible, but is it probable"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "that he did it alone? It's not really"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "probable that one 22-year-old would be"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "able to figure all of that out"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "and to fire one shot and be successful"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "in your mission."}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "Yeah. I mean, arguably, you can see that"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "he hadn't trained for the the shot"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "distance because while he did shoot"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "Charlie in a fatal location, it's"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "unlikely he was aiming for that specific"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "location. So, there are certain elements"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "that highlight he was amateur as a prof"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "as a professional killer. a a a Navy"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "Seal like Rob wouldn't make a mistake"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "like that, wouldn't make wouldn't see"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "that tumble and not predict it."}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "Right. I mean, Rob had a lot lot of"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "questions, but one of which was just the"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "amount of time it took him, like you"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "said, to assemble and dissemble. He said"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "he didn't think he could do it that in"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "the time that they believed this boy did"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "it. Um, and it's interesting because the"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "only the only equivalent kind of story"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "in the last few years where there are"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "even more unanswered questions is the"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "young person who tried to assassinate"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "Donald Trump."}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "Absolutely. from a similar roof, from a"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "similar distance about whom we seem to"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "know absolutely nothing. I mean, even"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "the guy on the golf course, we know a"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "bit more because he defended himself and"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "everything else. But that original"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "shooter remains just so weird. Like this"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "kid had no digital footprint, nothing."}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "from a CIA point of view, when you"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "encounter that where someone tries to"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "assassinate the president of the United"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "States or a very high-profile figure and"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "when you dig into it that for a young"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "person to have no digital footprint"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "whatsoever, that to me is very very odd."}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "Absolutely. There's hidden information"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "there without a doubt. It's funny. My my"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "mind worked very similar to yours,"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "Piers. When I started to to research the"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "elements that made up the Charlie Kirk"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "assassination, I immediately was"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "triggered to look back at Thomas Krooks,"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "the one who who tried to kill Donald"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "Trump when he was on the the campaign in"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "Butler, Pennsylvania."}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "The parallels are very, very powerful,"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "very humbling, right? You're talking"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "about similar age groups. You're talking"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "about high levels of intelligence."}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "You're talking about a a level of uh"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "emotional IQ that made them actually"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "well-liked in their community."}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "CIA believes that all people are born"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "with a spy secret superpower. For some"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "people, that means they can win deals."}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "For others, they can spot liars. Some"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "can even seduce lovers. I built a free"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "3inut test to help reveal to you exactly"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "what your secret hidden superpower is."}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "All you have to do is click on the link"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "in the description below, take the test,"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "and start using your spy superpower to"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "stay ahead of 99% of people. So, no one"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "expected that they would have this this"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "killer instinct inside them. And"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "arguably, maybe they didn't. They"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "certainly were able to carry out"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "something dangerous, but could they have"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "done it alone? We don't know. But even"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "now, when you research Thomas Krooks,"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "even now there's still no motive"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "assignment."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "This is nothing."}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "There's still no public information."}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "Now, the person he tried to assassinate"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "of all the people in the country, if"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "you're trying to kill the president, you"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "should be an open book to the American"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "people, unless there's something you"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "don't want the American people to know."}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "Well, and of course, it goes right back"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "to JFK and and the unanswered questions"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "there and everything else. And, you"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "know, I had uh uh I've had a lot of"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "people on talking about the JFK files,"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "and you just think, will we ever find"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "out? Would you think we ever will? Will"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "we ever know for sure"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "in the world of intelligence? In my"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "experience, when there's something that"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "is damaging to the idea of the American"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "government, the idea of the structure"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "that we have, uh, the spec, the"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "specificity of how we carry out our"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "operations, when something is is"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "butdding up against those areas of"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "information, we'll never know because"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "it's not in the government's best"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "interest to actually be transparent with"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "the people. It's in the government's"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "best interest to tailor and cultivate"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "what's released and that includes"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "cultivating and ta tailoring what isn't"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "released."}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "I had Oliver Stone on the filmmaker with"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "his son uh last week talking about the"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "RFK assassination and how he was certain"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "they've done a documentary about this."}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "He he was certain that was a CIA inside"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "job. Did you ever hear anything about"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "that when you were"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "the the RFK assassination is another"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "interesting example of where information"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "is missing"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "but and what's left doesn't stack up."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "The the pre201"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "CIA pre 911 CIA is a very different"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "beast than the CIA I grew up in. And and"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "one of the things that they teach us"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "when we go through our onboarding is how"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "different and kind of wild west"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "unsupervised"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "uh very reckless that previous CIA was."}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "It was born of the time at the time it"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "was needed and it was kind of ignored"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "for you know 30 years before any"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "significant uh oversight was applied to"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "it. So could they have been involved? I"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "I don't put anything beyond what CIA"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "without oversight could have done"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "especially considering it only falls"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "under the office of the executive which"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "just implies that at some point in time"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "it would want to shape the office of the"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "executive and that is exactly why JFK is"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "that JFK assassination is so"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "interesting. Whenever I interview people"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "like you, the most popular response from"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "viewers is there's no such thing as"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "former CIA. And that even if I say to"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "you, are you still in the CIA? Well, why"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "would you tell me anyway?"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "It's it's a very valid point. There is"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "no such thing as former CIA. There's no"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "such thing as retired military. The fact"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "that we served once means that at the"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "drop of a dime, at the call, we will"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "serve again. And I'm not trying to hide"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "that and I'm not trying to say anything"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "else. But there's a difference between"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "being favorably disposed, dedicated,"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "loyal to the mission versus being"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "controlled by the mission today. And"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "when people say, I think what they're"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "implying is that I'm still part of CIA."}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "I am most certainly not part of CIA. CI"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "CIA is not my friend. They are very"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "publicly uh not my friend. I get letters"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "from them all the time reminding me to"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "get off screen because I have no"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "business being on screen and and"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "threatening me with legal action if I"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "overstep the boundary of my secrecy"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "agreement. So people don't see that"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "part. They just see me on camera."}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "Your your book, they tried to block it"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "for a while. Excuse me. Um but you"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "finally got it unblocked. What what was"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "the kind of stuff which they were"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "objecting to and how much of that in the"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "end has made has made the final edit?"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "Yeah, absolutely. So, my book Shadow"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "Cell that was just released in"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "September, um, thankfully we are a New"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "York Times bestseller. I'm very excited"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "about that."}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "Congratulations."}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "Thank you very much. The entire"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "manuscript was finished in 2021 and"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "submitted to CIA in the in late 2021."}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "And then in 2022, the whole world"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "changed. You had conflicts creep up"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "between the United States and China. You"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "of course had Russia invade Ukraine. You"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "had new uh uh brinksmanship with Iran"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "and North Korea. And as a result of"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "that, CIA deemed the entire book a"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "classified document"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "from beginning to end. The premise of"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "the story, the operation itself, the"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "individuals involved, even the even the"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "number of cases inside the book we go"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "through detailed the number of officers"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "that were in our cell, the number of"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "cases that the officers managed. CIA"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "wanted none of it released. They they"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "deemed it all classified information. My"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "wife and I understood as former CIA"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "officers what is actually the definition"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "of classified information and it took us"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "three years of kind of legal back and"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "forth with"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "and out of interest for those who don't"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "really understand this what what is the"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "kind of overarching definition of it?"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "So the the definition of of human"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "classified intelligence is that it has"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "to be information that exists on a"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "document that has classification"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "markings. That's what makes it"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "classified. there's this catchall where"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "they can say, \"Oh, if you if you take"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "what you said, it implies enough"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "information, but that requires a court"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "to come in and say that the court agrees"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "or disagrees with what CIA is saying.\""}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "So, my wife and I knew that what was in"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "the book was not word for word verbatim"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "off of any classified document. So, we"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "knew that it wasn't going to withstand"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "that accusation. But, it took us three"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "years because CIA went through different"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "directors. CIA has its own political"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "issues. Of course, CIA is a one-way"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "street. you write to them, they may or"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "may not write you back right away. So,"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "it was a lot of back and forth that"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "ultimately only won. We only won because"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "we threatened them with a first"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "amendment lawsuit. And when we"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "threatened a First Amendment lawsuit"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "with a platform of my size online, that"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "was when they decided to come back and"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "say that it's releasable."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "All human life has value. Yes, that doesn't mean all human lives are of"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "equal value. And I know that that's going to make some people mad, but still. Some people are of great value."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "Some people are not of much value. If the world's coming to an end, I'm not saving myself."}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "Now, we were recently visiting friends, the godp parentents to our children, and we've known them for a long time. But"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "something really interesting to me happened because the the mother, the lady who's the godmother to our"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "children, has always really been kind of fair and equal and liberal and, you"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "know, progressive. And she made this comment where she was like, she was talking about how she wants to make sure"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "her kids understand that all people are equal, but some people are just better."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "I was my jaw hit the floor cuz I was like, whoa, what happened? Like, how did"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "you go from being this person where equality was so important to you and now you're actually saying in your"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "own way that people are not equal? Well, and it's not uncommon to hear that from"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "people as they rise up the wealth ladder, which they have done very successfully. Yeah. Um that, you know,"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "because I when I was in college, I was the same, but I came from a very, you know, workingass family. And so for me,"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "I was like, everybody should be equal. Everybody should have the same things. Uh not just opportunities, but like"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "literally the same things. We should all have the same house, the same amount of food, equality across the board. But"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "then as people rise up the wealth ladder through their own efforts,"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "they start to realize that some people don't work as hard as other people. Not everybody is actually equal in the way"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "that they function. And so why should everybody receive equal resources? I"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "think that's what happens. So do you think there's a correlation between growing wealth and your personal"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "politics? I do. I think that if you are a person who grows wealth, right? Not a person"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "who falls into wealth or marries into wealth. If you are taking action to grow wealth, then your mindset definitely"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "changes as you are putting in the effort and seeing the fruits of your labor. Does it work the other way around for"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "people who are not taking active efforts to grow wealth or even people who are taking active efforts not to work or not"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "to grow wealth? Can you clarify your question? So, if"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "somebody is just doing run-of-the-mill, they're never trying harder to get any better."}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "Or the person who actively tries not to try, or the person who believes in some"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "of the training or the mental concepts that you're just supposed to be happy with what you have, or the person who"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "believes that you're supposed to just be happy with what you're given or what you get. Yeah. I mean, it makes sense that for"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "those people, it might not occur to them. If you're not growing, your concepts aren't growing either, right?"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "Your your philosophy isn't evolving either. And I think that what people"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "really mean when they say equality is equity. So, and I think there's two"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "things. I think what people really mean when they say equality is twofold. One, they want equity. They think that"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "everybody should have the same opportunity to make the effort to gain"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "wealth, gain, you know, whatever it is that they want to, right? Gain a better life. But I think the other thing that"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "people are really trying to say is that they value all life as equal. And valuing life as you know,"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "everybody's life as being equal. The hum the value of a human life is not the same as all humans are equal."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "You know, it's interesting. We were watching a movie recently. Mhm. Um on Netflix, a movie called I Am"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "Mother. Oh, I love that movie. And you introduced me to that movie. And there's this cool exercise in the middle"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "of the movie that presents an ethical dilemma. And if I'm remembering right, I think the ethical dilemma was uh there are"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "five people each with a failing organ, a failing bodily organ."}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "Yeah. And then a sixth person comes to the hospital. The sixth person has a"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "terminal illness that will cause them to die. Yeah. However, that terminal illness that that"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "terminal patient has each of the organs inside their body operating in a healthy"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "fashion for the five other people. So, does the doctor let the terminal illness"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "die? Does the doctor let the terminal patient die so that they can then harvest the organs"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "and use them in the five other people or does the doctor help prolong the life"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "of a person who is terminal even though the other five people will"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "potentially die without the organ that the terminal patient is carrying. And I love these ethical dilemmas"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "because they really do make us ask some deeper questions. I can almost guarantee you most people would say they'd have an"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "answer right away. Oh no, the doctor has to help the terminal patient or oh, it doesn't, you know, the terminal patient's going to die anyways. Just let"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "nature run its course and save the other five lives. The real purpose behind an ethical dilemma is to ask the next question."}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "Right. Right. Who are the five people waiting on organs? Are they criminals? Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "Are they uh serial abusers? Are they killers? Are they doctors? Are they scientists? Are they engineers? Who is"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "the terminal patient? And when you start asking yourself those questions, then you start wondering,"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "is there some category of person that's more valuable than another category of"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "person, right? Right. Is if you know that one of those patients is going to commit suicide in a year, if"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "you know that one of those patients is a drug addict who they're going to get your organ and then ruin it, right? I"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "mean, it's it's exactly what you're saying. There's there's a deeper level that those questions make you um make you"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "think about. It's not just as it's not simple black and white. You know, all these all these short pathy headlines"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "that we see nowadays make everything seem like it's so easy like you can just make a snap judgment, but there's not."}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "There's there's always a deeper question you need to be asking and you have to weigh all these options. Nothing is"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "black and white. Everything is some shade of gray. Yeah. And what's really interesting to me is we we hear so much talk about"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "equality and fairness and how the government and the structure of the state has to enforce"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "or or restrict opportunities to give everybody some sort of fair opportunity or fair balance or a fair"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "swing a fair shot. Yeah. When people people are not the same. People are not the same. Their"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "capabilities are not the same. Their capacity for change and growth is not the same. Their personal motivation is"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "not the same. If so much can be different between people, why would we expect that the government"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "that manages people would try to counteract mother nature itself?"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "Right? And that's what's interesting about, you know, the the big government, little government argument is, you know,"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "in theory on a more localized level, a local government knows its population better and can provide opportunities for"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "its local population better than the big government can. You can't really standardize the entire country. We're so"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "different. But a local government is also easier to corrupt. Exactly. Because a local government can be moved by smaller incentives, smaller"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "decisions, smaller audiences. So what do we want for our children? Do we want our children to believe that all people are"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "equal? Do we want our children to believe that people get more when they"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "work harder and they deserve less when they don't work as hard? What are your thoughts there? I want So I definitely want our children"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "to believe that all human life has value because all human life has value."}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "Everybody starts out. That's an awesome way of putting it. All human life has value. Yes,"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "that doesn't mean all human lives are of equal value. CIA believes that all people are born"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "with a spy secret superpower. For some people, that means they can win deals. For others, they can spot liars. Some"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "can even seduce lovers. I built a free 3inut test to help reveal to you exactly"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "what your secret hidden superpower is. All you have to do is click on the link in the description below, take the test,"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "and start using your spy superpower to stay ahead of 99% of people."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "That's how I'm interpreting that. And I agree with that. And I know that that's going to make some people mad. But still, some people are of great value."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "Some people are not of much value. A criminal, a pedophile, they're not of a whole lot of value. There is still some"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "value there. They do still drive the economic uh environment that we live in, right? They"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "can still contribute to the workforce. They can still do all sort. They can still be blood donors, right? There's"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "still value, but they're not anywhere near as valuable as an innovator, a"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "doctor, a surgeon. If you put the question, right, do one of those uh difficult questions. If you"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "put the question of, you know, the the world's going to end, you can save 10 people."}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "Suddenly, you're putting putting, you know, value in prioritizing certain lives, right? Um but you know but I"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "definitely want to raise them with you know all human life has value and then give them the critical thinking skills"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "to decide you know to to help treat people"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "in an you know help create equity in the world right because I don't believe that you"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "know I don't believe that you know we should step on people to to rise up"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "right I I don't think that's the right lesson. So, but they do have to think critically because not everybody is"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "equal in what they have to offer the world. Okay. So, the world is ending."}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "Mental exercise. Mental exercise. Ew. No. The world is ending. Mhm. You get to choose 10 people that will"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "survive the end of the world. Mhm. You have your real family. me,"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "your two children, your two living parents, and your sister. We are all"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "part of the population. So, what 10 people do you choose? And I'm not saying"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "named people. Like, do you choose a doctor? Do you choose a farmer? Do you choose a scientist? What 10 people do"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "you choose to carry on the health of the planet after the rest of the world dies?"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "There are so many follow-up questions to this because are 10 people enough to keep the species"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "going? Number one, if 10 people aren't enough to keep the species going, then I might as well"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "surround myself with 10 people who I'm going to enjoy the rest of my life with and then we all die out. So, you're assuming you're one of the 10"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "that you're going to let live. Well, in that scenario, wow. If if 10 people are enough to"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "continue the human population, then I would be much more judic judicious in my"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "my selection. I'm telling you right now, if the world's coming to an end, I'm not saving myself. No,"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "not not go ahead. What's your question? Even if those 10 people are going to"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "live their lives and then kaput, that's it for the human race. No, I don't want to live."}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "Really? So, I was a nuclear missile officer with the Air Force. I actually had a checklist of things to"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "do in the event of a nuclear holocaust. That's fair. I had to consider what life would look"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "like in an actual end of days scenario. And I'm telling you right now, end of days means end of me, too, because the"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "day after the end of days is going to be a miserable day. It's true. I'm going to be like my whole life after that day is going to"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "be horrible. I'm gonna be like that Twilight Zone guy who like the entire world ended and then all he wanted to do"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "is be alone and read books at the library and he steps on his glasses and now he can't read anything and he's all"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "alone. That would be me. I remember that. So, speaking of end of days, speaking of end of days, we recently had"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "news drop that the US is sending cluster bombs to support Ukraine in their"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "conflict against Russia. Yep. How does that make you feel? Uh, it makes me pretty. So, my initial"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "reaction is what a bunch of dumb asses. And it makes me really angry. Like,"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "didn't we learn our lesson in Vietnam? Nope. No, we clearly did not. Um, we are still"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "spending money and putting forth efforts on the ground in Vietnam and La Laos"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "still to this day trying to clean all that up, right? But then"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "once I stop being so angry, I have to realize that, you know, you"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "have to put yourself in the shoes of the decision maker and how difficult decision that must have been. I don't"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "say I'm not saying I agree with the decision, but when I put myself in Biden's shoes,"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "for example, you have I'm fairly certain that he is looking at do I give them cluster bombs"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "because I'm not willing to put my own boots on the ground. I'm not willing to give them much more than what we have"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "already provided. Okay? So, do I give them this weapon that we all know is horrific and we all know is going to be a big cleanup and it"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "could take out a bunch of civilians and we know all the nasty effects or do I risk Russia taking the territory?"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "That's interesting, right? I believe that those are the two options, the big options that they're"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "looking at there. So, that's a really interesting point. the idea that the Biden administration"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "has to think through multiple layers of impact when they make a decision like whether or not to send cluster bombs."}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "And let's be honest, cluster bombs are nasty. It is. It for me, I was disappointed in"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "my administration when I when I heard that they had approved this the transfer of not just older munitions, but older"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "munitions with an increased rate of failure. Yeah. Because the problem with a cluster"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "bomb, it's it's it's a dis it's a despicable weapon, right? It explodes at an altitude and it drops munitions down"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "on other things. It's just a it's a indiscriminate killer. Yeah. Right. So,"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "it's a terrible nasty weapon on its own. Very effective. Terrible and nasty weapon. But the thing that's so horrible"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "about them is when they don't detonate. Yes. When they don't detonate appropriately, you end up having these little grenades,"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "little explosives that sit there months, weeks, years. And then they're discovered long after"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "the conflict has ended. Children are still losing limbs in Laos and Vietnam when they come across these brightly"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "colored old munitions and they pick them up or they play with them or they poke them with a stick and they explode. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "Afghanistan uh is going through the same problem right now because we use them in the war in Afghanistan, right? Iraq still has the same issue. So, we've left"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "these little baby bombs all over the world and that's why we"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "don't use cluster munitions unless they have a very high success rate. I'm talking like 1% of them are allowed to"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "fail. Yeah. Then we employ them actively. We're sending to Ukraine ones with a failure rate of more than 100% what we're"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "willing to accept. Right. But you're right. Biden and his team have to make the decision. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "What can we do to continue to show support for Ukraine without actually"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "taking away from our ability to defend the homeland? Right. And now they're at that place where the"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "the best thing to do is to send old flawed munitions to a foreign conflict zone where even"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "when they fail at a higher rate, which we know they will, it's not our problem."}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "Yeah. Whether Ukraine wins or Russia wins, they have to clean up their own mess."}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "They're the ones that are going to have to deal with future children discovering cluster munitions and having their limbs"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "blown off. That's their problem, not our problem. But the current political narrative gets to advance when the"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "United States says we're going to continue supporting Ukraine with more weapons, right? And even if we support them in"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "the cleanup, it's a future problem, right? We don't need to worry about that right now. What we need to worry about right now is, you know, it's uh Have you"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "read the uh the book Kujo by Stephen King? I remember that book, right? So, the woman's trapped in a car with her"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "toddler with a rabid dog outside. What you need to worry about right now is that rabid dog outside, right? Like, you"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "don't have to think about the future. You just need to worry about how do I get this dog away from my car, you know?"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "So, that I I once I put myself in those shoes, I can understand unfortunately"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "why the decision was made. I still don't agree with it. What would you have done differently?"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "Well, without the intel, I'm not entirely certain what all of the options would have been. Um, you know, and and"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "it's it's difficult, and I think that this is difficult for a lot of people that, you know, at some point you have"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "to put faith in your leadership that they are taking all of the facts and making the best decision they can make"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "with those facts. So, I have to make the assumption that,"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "you know, Biden is taking all of the intel, all of the advice from his, you know, military adviserss and he's making"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "the best decision he can make because you have faith in the current"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "administration. I don't have faith in the current administration. Then why would you assume they're making"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "the best decision they can make? I do believe well because I do believe that that we have a history"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "of American presidents who make decisions in the best interest of keeping economic and military"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "dominance inside the United States. So I do believe that the Biden administration is doing a pretty fair"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "job of making sure that nobody can economically or militarily dominate the United States right now."}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "But I do think that the whole future problem thing is starting to become a clear and present problem."}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "Yeah. because we've kind of let ourselves slip a little too far. Now we're behind the curve in terms of"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "conflict with with near peers like China, right? And we've we've got strained relationships with long-term"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "allies like Saudi Arabia. Even NATO and and specific countries inside NATO"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "are verbalizing and vocalizing that they don't like our current administration. They don't like our current direction."}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "Right? Germany has called for becoming the largest military in NATO and dropping the United States. France, I"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "mean, President Macarron from France, France has already gone to China. Yeah. And had like the entire NATO alliance"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "reprimand him for going to China and making and promising closer allegiance with China. So, you know, we are the"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "future problem is becoming the present problem when it comes to what does American dominance"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "look like in the future. And the way I view leadership, the leadership of a country is the way I view parents,"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "right? You I'm not saying that they're making the best decision that could be made. I'm saying they're making the best"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "decision that they can make. It's like when I look back at my parents decisions and I think did they make the best"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "decision for us regarding whatever you know they made the best decision they could make with their based on"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "their experience their background their knowledge base what they think is right and wrong their value set right so it's"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "the same thing with leadership and America changes leaders every four to eight years so you're having a new"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "parent step in and lead the country every four to eight years and they're"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "making the best decision that they can right? Whether or not that's, you know, how how good that actually is, you know,"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "it's so person dependent. And that's, you know, arguably one of the like the"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "leg up that a place like China has is that they have the same parents"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "for a long time, for a long time. So there's lots of consistency, right? So even if they're"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "not not making the best decisions, at least they're consistent in their decision- making, right? Where"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "America is not like that, right? Democratic countries change leadership fairly often and you just you're you're"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "doing the best you can with what you have. So it's a really interesting argument then whether or not the future state"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "will future success depend on democracy and democratic leaders or authoritarian"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "leaders, right? Autocracy and authoritarian leaders. Which one is the superior"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "structure model for the immediate future? Right? It's interesting because coming out of World"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "War II, democracy kind of reigned in many ways because we had just defeated"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "and oppressed autotocracy, right? So, it took a few decades before autocrats came back into power and back into favor. But"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "now we're very much in an era where there's democratic powers and then there's authoritarian powers. But"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "most of the democratic countries that are out there are not really success stories. They're not wealthy, impactful"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "countries, right? I mean, if you look at the top five wealthiest countries in the world, three of them are actually"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "kingdoms. They actually have monarchs, right? Then the two that are left are actual quote"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "unquote democracies, but they're more like republics where you have representatives who who reflect the will"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "of the people. They're not actually countries where the people are in control. Right? The next uh four or five wealthy"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "countries on the top 10 list, all of them are autotocracies. Yeah, it's wild, right? It's wild to think of"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "how much success and wealth has derived from strong strong men leadership in the"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "last 50 years and what does that mean for the next 50 years? Yeah. You know, it's funny. I grew up with my dad telling me um my dad's from"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "Venezuela and um you know my dad has this belief that every country has the"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "leadership that they deserve, the leadership that the people of that country are ready for, right? So"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "democracy isn't necessarily the answer for everybody because every country has"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "its own culture. Every culture wants a different style of leadership and who's to say that one style is the best for"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "everybody because they all have pros and cons. Um, and democracy is, you know,"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "we're still a big experiment. You know, we're still trying to figure out how to make it work. So,"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "so where does that land in the vein of all life has value and equality and"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "fairness? Because in an authoritarian regime, an authoritarian country, if that is the superior function or"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "superior form of government that the world will be adopting for the next 50 years, they do not believe all life has"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "equal value. They don't even believe that all life has value, right? I mean, look at China. China actually instituted"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "a one child policy to repress their own population growth back in like the '9s"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "and now they're suffering from it, right? But the point is not all life has"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "value there. I mean, even here in the United States, we can't seem to decide on Row versus Wade. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "We go back and forth, right? Does all life have value or is it someone else's choice what life is allowed to live?"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "Right? These are controversial questions that kind of fly in the face of this idea that all life has equal value or"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "all life has value or what I I totally agree with you that the more uncomfortable statement here is the more"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "accurate statement that all life has value but not all lives are of equal value."}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "It's definitely a controversial statement and I'm still ruminating on how I how I feel about this."}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "No, you don't ruminate, you avoid. It's already happened. I asked you what 10 people you would take with you at the end of the world. The only person you"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "said was you. And even then, you didn't say it directly. You were like, \"Well, who would I surround myself with,"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "right?\" So, don't I I understand who you really are, not who your face is on camera,"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "unless we can propagate the species. And then I would choose somebody else"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "because I don't want to propagate. Propagate heavily until the end of days come and then boom, I just I want to see"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "the cloud. I want to watch the heat wave. And then I don't I don't want to remember anything after it. It's a hard"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "honestly it's a hard thing to look yourself in the mirror. I look myself in the mirror and I tell myself if I was"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "alive during the American Revolution, I would not have fought for the American"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "side. We've talked about this. Yeah. And it's a humbling thing, right? I'm a parent. I'm a patriot. I've I've served"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "my country. I served with CIA. And if I was to take who I am right now and drop myself into the shoes of somebody,"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "choosing whether or not to fight the red coats, I would have been one of those guys that was like, I'm not going to"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "fight them. I'm going to protect my kids. I'm going to protect my farm. I'm going to do my thing, and I'm going to let the revolutionaries do their thing."}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "Yeah. And it I know that that makes me sound like a coward to some people. 20 years ago, when I had no kids, when I"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "was 23 years old, Yeah. I would have been all full of piss and vinegar and let's go take on the red coats. Yeah. Because I didn't understand the value of"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "life then. Yeah. Now I've had 20 years to understand the value of life. And there's so much more to life than just winning and fighting"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "for a cause that somebody else defines. Yeah. I I do I am slightly amazed that"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "human beings keep going to war when we we see over and over again how detrimental it is"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "to society to the world as a whole. I mean I under I I conceptually understand"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "why countries go to war but I don't understand how you know why just why we actually keep"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "doing it. Why do we keep sending our our young men and women into battle just for"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "something that arguably could be diplomatic diplomatically resolved? There's an awesome quote in the book um"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "what was it? Gods and Generals I think it is. I think the book was called Gods and Generals where there's like a a"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "diary passage where somebody is uh reflecting on the fact that war is old"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "men sending young men to fight and die."}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "I just think that that's pretty powerful on its own, right? Yeah. And then you've also got this idea that"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "without war, economically speaking, you lose out on the opportunity for massive"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "growth, massive innovation, massive domestic product. And that's proven out"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "time and time again, right? It can't always be a world with no war because"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "war is leads to innovation. War leads to economic benefit. Right."}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "That's what's so interesting. What we have seen in the West is we've learned how to turn war into economic benefit."}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "Yeah. But look across Africa. They haven't figured that out yet. No. There are militias still fighting. There"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "are there are warlords fighting all the time. Nobody's growing economically."}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "Yeah. It's a challenging question and I think, you know, just like we were talking about which form of government"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "is the better one. Maybe it's neither. You know, maybe it maybe it doesn't exist right now. Maybe somebody needs to"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "innovate a new form of government that combines some of the better aspects of the other ones. Maybe there is no"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "perfect form of government because human beings are fundamentally flawed. Right? When I first learned about communism, I"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "I was I was young and I thought communism sounds awesome. Like everybody has the same stuff. You're taken care"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "of. Like everybody gets education, everybody gets medicine. What's the problem here? But then you"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "realize that the problem is that the leadership is flawed. The leadership will there's some kind some level of"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "corruption will happen at some point and then the whole thing goes to pot. So"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "yeah, you know, it's it's a human problem. Well, what's interesting to me is that, you know, we sit here saying how how war"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "is so costly and war is so uh detrimental, and we're all seeing how war has"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "negatively impacted so much of our global process since"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "Ukraine and Russia kicked off, right? It reminds me of a quote that I learned when I was at the Air Force Academy. There's this famous quote that every"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "military academy cadet learns. And I was a horrible cadet. So I don't remember the whole quote, but I remember the"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "beginning. And the beginning was that war is a terrible thing. It may have"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "been war is an ugly thing. War is an ugly thing, but not so ugly as the"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "decayed and degraded state of society that believes that nothing is worth war,"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "right? Which is fascinating to me. Not only because I so I totally massacred that thing. So for any cadets out there"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "listening, they know how it's supposed to go. Tell us in the comments what the real thing is. Yeah, for real. For real. Cuz I"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "obviously didn't use it didn't change my life until I use it right now. But the"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "idea that the the decayed and degraded moral state of society that says that"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "nothing is worth war is uglier than war itself, now that I'm older, I don't know"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "that that's necessarily true. I don't think I don't know. And I see what we're doing here in the United States, which frankly"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "what we're doing in the United States is we're letting Ukrainians die. fighting an American foe. That's what we're"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "doing, right? Ukrainians are fighting for a valid reason. Very valid. But they're fighting and dying and"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "they're weakening a foe that we don't have to send any American lives to fight. Right. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "That's a win-win when it comes to American national security priorities. Right."}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "That's what's happening in Europe. And that's exactly the quote. That's exactly a societal base that believes"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "that it's not worth war. We don't want to send our own people in to go do that. We learned that in Afghanistan. We saw"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "the the nastiness of it in Vietnam. We didn't engage in Syria. Right? There's"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "all this all these examples where we have decided to stay away from war even though our"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "own generals, our own militarymies are teaching us that we should be stepping into war."}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "That's a very interesting quote. It's a even more there are lots of interesting quotes. What's interesting"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "is that that quote is what gets drilled into the mind of every freshman going"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "through a military academy. That's what's interesting. That's exactly mind. Again, going back to what we learned at"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "CIA, brainwashing is not a matter of finding somebody and"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "changing their mind. Brainwashing is a matter of getting someone to self- select into a system of belief and then"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "you reinforce that existing system of belief. What is a military academy? You're finding people who are self-"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "selecting even competing to get into a school that is military."}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "Yeah. And then when they have been awarded and granted permission and when they are like when they are celebrated"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "because they're one of the few in the proud that got in, then you're just further cementing and indoctrinating"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "their own biases about being the best and killing and war and death and dominance and you know"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "everything else. It's a fascinating thing. It's something that we need. It's something that we need."}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "But not all lives are of equal value. M yeah."}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "Now, we were talking about uh where the real threat lies, right? And there's"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "also been some really interesting news about developments in the Arctic and in the Arctic Circle specifically, right?"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "um what what kind of conflict exists up there, territorial disputes that could be going on up there, uh where the"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "future of of Russian, American, Chinese tensions lie"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "with the Arctic. Have you seen some of those articles? Yeah, I have. They're fascinating. So, it reminds me of World War II"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "because the only successful invasion of the United States happened in World War II and almost nobody knows about it,"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "right? The Japanese successfully invaded Alaska through the Arctic Circle"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "in World War II. I forget what the operation was called. Uh it was less than a year after Pearl Harbor."}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "Yeah. And we actually had a Japanese incursion on American soil. Now, it was successfully repelled, but I think that"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "goes to show the strategic importance of the Arctic. Yeah. And here it is again coming to headline"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "news. Yeah. particularly as the, you know, as the as the ice begins to melt and that"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "that area opens up, you know, I mean, I think the big reason it hasn't been on anybody's radar, nobody's really thought"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "about it, is because it was kind of impassible before, but it's very close to becoming passible for many, many"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "things. Um, and and if you look at a map of the uh of the the Arctic, the you"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "know, if we have a we have a uh a world map on our wall. So there's this circle"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:45", "text": "of the Arctic, and half of the circle is Russia. The rest is made up by Canada, a"}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "little bit of the United States, Norway, Greenland, Iceland's up there, you know,"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "Sweden, and anybody with a world atlas will be able to take a look at what the world looks like when you look down on the North"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "Pole. When you look down from the Arctic, it's Russia. It's all Russia. So, it's all Russia. Everything above 78"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "degrees latitude, which is considered the Arctic Circle, it's all Russia. And you're right, global warming, which"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "whatever the reason is driving global warming, we could start our own conspiracy theory about how Russia started global warming"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "so they could melt the ice and strategically use it to take and gain more land mass."}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "More workable land mass. There you go. This sounds exactly like a Lex Luthther plan out of a Superman"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "movie. Yes, absolutely. That's exactly what it sounds like. But no, you're I mean, it's a very valid"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "point. The reason that people are paying attention to what's happening in the Arctic is because there's stuff under the ice."}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "I don't mean like there's there's holy mammoths. Yeah. And soil that we can use to grow"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "corn, but there are rare earth minerals buried under the ice. Those rare earth minerals are going to power tomorrow's electric vehicles, supercomputers, all"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "the the raw materials that go into our our AI chips and semiconductors that"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "lives underneath the ice. New logistical routes between countries are underneath the ice."}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "New territorial disputes are underneath the ice. Like there is as this as the polar ice caps melt,"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "conflict is going to arise around who gets to use these areas. I mean, just since 2022,"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "they've actually had to change flight paths around US carriers, u EU carriers,"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:35", "text": "Russian carriers, Chinese like aircraft, airlines have changed their routes because the polar route, which we've all"}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "been using and taking advantage of for a long time. Mhm. The way you get from Chicago to Beijing, is over the North Pole, right? It's over"}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "the over the Arctic Circle. But since the conflict broke out and people have started to put sanctions on Russia,"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "guess who owns a lot of that airspace? Yeah. Russia. So now all of a sudden the rest of the world can't fly over Russian"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "airspace because it's Russian airspace. And they've sanctioned Russia. And if they're going to try to enforce Russian"}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:06", "text": "routes or reduce Russian routes, Russia has the right to shut down the Arctic Circle. Could you imagine if Russia had"}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "the ability to shut down naval passage as well and and merchant marine passage"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "and the ability to actually ship through shipping lanes through the Arctic? How much faster those shipping lanes will be"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "when they're available? But not just that, who controls them? Are they internationally controlled and protected"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "or do they belong to a country? I think it's really interesting and uh and I was surprised to see how far down the list"}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "of headlines it existed. Oh yeah, that is funny. Well, maybe because it's not not quite there yet."}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "But I mean, Russia, the other thing about Russia is they've been working on this a long time already. Russia is a lot like China and"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "they think ahead, really far ahead. So, they already have, right, because they"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "have one parent who just hangs out all the time. So, they have bases there, they have"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:59", "text": "subs there, they are prepared. There are stories um of Russian intelligence"}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "infiltrating the Norwegian bases that they have up along the you"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "know up along their northern border. Um and there is an Arctic Council, but it's"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:17", "text": "currently in disarray because nobody wants to deal with Russia. So there's not"}, {"start": "00:37:17", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "nobody wants to deal with them because they're afraid because they're afraid. But without the council working properly, they also"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "can't come together to share information on what Russia is really doing. So there's definitely intelligence activity"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "going on. There's most likely mil military activity going on. Little things that people see that are"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "strange that maybe if there was shared intelligence, Yeah. people would put the, you know, be able"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "to piece that puzzle together and get a better picture of what Russia is up to and where they might be going with it."}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "Right. But right now that communication isn't there. Or if it is, it's not privy to us."}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "That's correct. Yeah. So, I want to end with a question that recently came in from a fan of"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "Everyday Spy. And I I kind of always want to bring up a few questions from our audience. We call our tribe the spy"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:13", "text": "tribe, right? People can find their way into the spy tribe by listening to our podcast, by following us on social media, by buying"}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "one of our products, by coming to one of our live events. And we just had an awesome live event that just ended in"}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "St. Petersburg. We had a ton of fun. I can't thank you enough because you're the one that plans everything about our"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "live events. All I have to do is go and actually execute it. So, thank you for doing all that."}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "You're very welcome. Thank you for having the brain that executes it, though, because it's your knowledge that"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:41", "text": "you're imparting on those students. That's true. You're really good at packing the box that has to have all the stuff. Yes."}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "But you would just you would just give it to the students and go hide in the closet if you had to. I would. I'm I'm the introvert in the"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "back corner of the room. So, a question that came up there I"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:38:59", "text": "thought was really interesting and I wanted to pass it to you because the question was, \"What do you wear at CIA"}, {"start": "00:38:59", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "headquarters? What kind of clothes do they wear at CIA headquarters?\" So, I wanted to kick that question to you and"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "see what you have to say. So"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "I would say and I am no fashionista that um that generally people dress very"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "smartly at the CIA. I would liken it to how people dress at the Department of"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "State or at any um well, I wouldn't say any other government a agency because I"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "don't remember people at NSA dressing this way, but um you know, the the women wear high heels and dress, the men wear"}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "suits and ties for the most part. Um you know, everybody dresses very"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:49", "text": "professionally except me. I wear my"}, {"start": "00:39:49", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "I like to be comfortable. So, I wore my old lady loafers and a sweater, but"}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "because I learned the hard way the first week at CIA that uh high heels for eight hours a day makes you a super"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:07", "text": "Yeah, it doesn't work. And there's a lot of servers they have to keep cool, so it's always cold."}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "Yes. Yeah. It's funny. I think that's better than my answer because my answer was that what you wear depends on your age."}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "When you're like 28 and single, you've got tailored jackets, tailored suits,"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:25", "text": "you know, bright colors. The women are smoking in their like, you know, dresses and they're very tailored. Everything's"}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "like cuz you're constantly on parade. You're on parade to other people. You're on parade to other partners. You're on"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "parade like it's the Washington DC metropolitan, you know, catwalk."}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "Everybody's judging everybody all the time. That's what it's like in Washington DC. whether you're on K Street, whether you're on Pennsylvania"}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "Avenue or whether you're in Langley. And then as you get older, you get married, you have kids, you have a"}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "couple of assignments, you go on a couple of missions, you get sick, you gain weight, whatever it is, right? You"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "start to care a little bit less. And then by the time you're like in your mid50s, you know, you got a pot belly"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:07", "text": "going on, you're still wearing the same shirt you were wearing in your 40s. It's a little more a little stretched out. So the buttons start to stretch. You"}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:12", "text": "know what I'm talking about. You know it's real. They do. And that's how you start seeing the people who break out the shoes with the"}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:18", "text": "Velcro and they have their scarves and they have the and they don't look like they're professional C officers anymore."}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:25", "text": "But the thing that gets me the most about CIA is that you have to pack your own lunch. You don't make enough money and you"}, {"start": "00:41:25", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "don't have any place to go out to eat because you're on this standalone compound compound. So everybody carries a lunch box."}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:37", "text": "It's like going back to grade school again. Even if they are walking around in a $3,000 Italian suit, which not"}, {"start": "00:41:37", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "everybody does, but some people do. Yeah. They're still carrying their Yeti"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:48", "text": "lunchbox that they got from Target and it's got their sandwiches and their yogurt and their whatever else that they"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:54", "text": "need because that's the reality of life at CIA. That is true. Absolutely. Yeah. It's"}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:42:01", "text": "hilarious. And if you go into the any place where there's a tech office, they"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:07", "text": "look exactly the way you would expect an IT or an engineer to look like. And that's generally jeans in a polo."}, {"start": "00:42:07", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "That's true. You don't really see them walking around. And they carry a CIA badge. Yeah. Which is pretty cool."}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "Yeah. All right, folks. If you have a question that you ever want us to answer here on the podcast, please drop it in the comments. We will be scouring our"}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "comments. You're part of the spy tribe. If you've got something you want to know, let us know in the comments so we can pull it out. Give us feedback on"}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:30", "text": "what we talked about, what current events you want us to talk about, things that you've heard here that you like, things that you want us to expand more"}, {"start": "00:42:30", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "upon. And as always, we are super happy to be serving you and have this chance to have a conversation with you. That's"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "[Applause]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "You mentioned you miss the secrets."}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "I do."}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "So, you read the news."}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "what is happening? I mean, this is too"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "broad a question, but like what is"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "happening behind the scenes that people"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "don't realize? How much of the news is"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "just total propaganda and just missing"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "50% n% of the detail?"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "So, I want to pin that on you because"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "that's that's the right question. And I"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "want you to answer it honestly because"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "he's asking the right question. How much"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "of the news is wrong?"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "Well, I mean, I think I think if it's a"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "proper news source and they are"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "reporting facts, right, like observable"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "facts, then they're getting those right."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "The problem is that so much of news"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "media isn't reporting facts, it's so"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "much opinion. And when you start getting"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "into the opinion, so much of that is is"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "just um what's the word? Conjecture,"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "right? They're they're guessing. So"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "there's a lot going on behind the"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "scenes. Just like you were saying,"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "there's a lot of backroom conversations"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "that are happening that the media will"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "never see, right? What they see is what"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "the governments want them to see when"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "the, you know, US government or or the"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "government of France comes out and makes"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "some kind of big like, oh, we're doing"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "this now. Who knows what's really"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "happening behind the scenes. Something"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "is happening behind the scenes, but we"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "we will never be privy to that until the"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "next big announcement, you know. So, and"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "I just want to chime in because what JI"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "said there is with the very professional"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "journalistically sound news sources."}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "What they report that's observable is"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "factual. Well, we all know your"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "journalistically sound news sources are"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "increasingly shrinking. There's probably"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "three that you can think of, right?"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "Like Routers,"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "I would say Ruters is journalistically"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "sound. The Economist is journalistically"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "sound. Do you think that one political"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "party or another is better at providing"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "a broader clarity as to what's happening"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "or they're equally"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "culpable in their facade that they're"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "presenting to the world"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "equally culpable? Yeah. I do not think"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "the political parties"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "until until you've been on Capitol Hill"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "and actually watch these [ __ ] yell"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "at each other on camera and then have"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "lunch together and give fist bumps, you"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "don't get it. It's so twisted and"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "so it's all theater. It's all theater in"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "in the US government. It's all theater"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "because at the end of the day, they all"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "want the same thing."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "They all want a re-election, another"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "term in office. They all want"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "to make sure that they don't have to go"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "find a real job. They all want to make"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "sure that they can vote"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "and control their own salaries. That's"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "that's really what they want. And then"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "they want to make sure that any"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "newcomers that come in understand this"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "is how business is done. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "And then the American people, we we give"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "them permission to do that because we"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "only show up at like 30% to vote"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "anyways. And they know that. So they"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "know exactly who the one out of three"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "people is that's going to show up to"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "vote and exactly what to say to get that"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "constituent to come out every midterm."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "And that's what they do when the time"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "comes to do it."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "So I'm going to ask a difficult question"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "that"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "a lot of people are talking about and is"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "probably not fair to put the weight of"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "this question on you. What's happening"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "with Epstein? What is it that people"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "don't actually know?"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "I think the Epstein issue is is so"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "interesting because I really think it"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "just shows the American public that the"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "government is the government. No matter"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "who's in there, there is no draining the"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "swamp. You can't do it. It function just"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "like Andy was saying, the government"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "functions the way it functions. Anybody"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "new who comes in is told that this is"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "the way it is and you can't change it"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "from the inside. And so it's it's nice"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "for me to see the American public"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "slowly, hopefully waking up to the fact"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "that we can't change it from the inside."}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "There's nobody who's going to enter the"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "government who can change how it"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "functions because once they're in there,"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "they're in power."}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "If you have the head of the FBI,"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "the deputy director of the FBI who"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "potentially have control of what"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "information gets out, who is controlling"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "the information if not them? Everybody"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "in the government works in their own"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "self-interest. So, if it's not in their"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "own interest to release the information,"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "which it's probably not, and there's"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "also laws and regulations that probably"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "um you know, hinder some of the things"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "that they've been asked to do, but for"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "the most part, they're just working in"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "their own self-interest. And that's why"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "nothing's going to happen because it"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "doesn't help them or the current"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "administration information."}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "Correct. The self-interest piece is the"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "piece to understand because what most"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "Americans get wrong is we believe that"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "the government is there to serve the"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "people. Maybe it was written somewhere,"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "but it's not. The government is not"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "there to serve the people. The"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "government is there to serve the"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "government. Right? In the event of a"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "nuclear war, as long as the government"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "of the United States exists, then the"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "United States exists. Even if all the"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "people are lost,"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "I've seen that episode of Succession."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "Whoever's in the safe room is all who"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "they care about."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "And it's real. It's real because the"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "government is what defines the national"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "identity."}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "I don't want this to be a partisan"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "statement, but I think before the first"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "Trump presidency, things felt a little"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "bit different"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "for sure."}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "They felt a little bit different in"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "terms of news, press, media, just even"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "the conversations about them. You know,"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "I'm not like putting this on Trump, but"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "something definitely has shifted in"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "that. It feels like, you know, if you"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "look at kind of political perspectives"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "as a bell curve, it feels like news is"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "now operating from these two tail ends,"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "you know, and we have kind of like the"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "most extreme on the left and we have the"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "most extreme on the right, which sound"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "very similar because it's all a circle,"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "right? And it feels like that notion of"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "kind of a middle has sort of fallen out."}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "And you know, it's paralleled by sort of"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "like the loss of the middle class that"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "we talk about, you know, this kind of"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "like stratification, you know, based on"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "class and things like that. Um, but I I"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "think that there's still, you know, for"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "the bleeding heart liberals among us,"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "there there's still like I'm just going"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "to say this, like someone like Bernie"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "Sanders, this like grouchy, crotchety,"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "you know, he's pretty consistent, right?"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "And kind of seems like that renegade"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "that, you know, many of us thought the"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "left could be. So many people in the"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "Obama era, right, were like, there's a"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "new wave of hope and we're going to all"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "make nice, you know, and I think of"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "people like AOC who I think is is"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "challenged by exactly what you're"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "talking about because she came in like,"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "oh, we got like a Bernie vibe, but then"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "like it starts teetering and then it's"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "like, oh, is is she more right? meaning"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "like rightwing people now are it's like"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "everybody's picking on everybody. Is"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "that just sort of the inevitability of"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "this system? Like is Bernie Sanders the"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "only hold out who seems to be like"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "riding his ship all the way into the"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "sunset?"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "Well, you've got a couple things. I"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "think that's a great question and I"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "think Bernie's a great example because"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "what you have with Bernie Sanders is"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "somebody who's so consistent he's even"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "[ __ ] by his own party."}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "Sure."}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "Right. and and he is so true to his"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "vision that he can be like sidetracked"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "or derailed"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "by the people he trusts because he"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "trusts them to be of the same vision,"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "And it's just a great example of how"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "things are falling apart. Um, I agree"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "with you that things seem radically"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "different post Trump. What we learned at"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "CIA is that we really started to see the"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "change in the first two years of the"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "Obama administration. Because in the"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "first years of the Obama administration,"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "Obama walked in and he was young enough"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "and youthful enough that he saw the"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "problem and he was like, I'm not going"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "to play this game anymore. And he took"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "the presidential powers that were given"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "to him by all the congressmen that"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "didn't want to have responsibility,"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "right? He took those presidential powers"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "and he used them. He was the most lethal"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "president in history using covert"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "action, which is his wing, his right as"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "as a president, as a chief executive to"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "use. The most lethal president in"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "history. He was the first one to use uh"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "a record-breaking amount of executive"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "orders to push his agenda across. And"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "when the when the uh when the Congress"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "turned blue, he used that leverage to"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "get across policy that mattered to him."}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "CIA believes that all people are born"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "with a spy secret superpower. For some"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "people, that means they can win deals."}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "For others, they can spot liars. Some"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "can even seduce lovers. I built a free"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "threeinut test to help reveal to you"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "exactly what your secret hidden"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "superpower is. All you have to do is"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "click on the link in the description"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "below, take the test, and start using"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "your spy superpower to stay ahead of 99%"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "of people. Whether or not you like that"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "he did that, that set a precedent."}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "And then when Trump took office, he was"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "like, \"Well, this has already been done"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "before, so I'm just going to do the same"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "[ __ ] that's been done before, and you"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "can't say that it's my fault.\" So that's"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "when we started to kind of see"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "now he's really the most lethal"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "president in a different way. in a"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "different way. But we we had we have"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "this waffling now and it's going to it"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "took eight years for Obama to basically"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "exercise these rights, these privileges,"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "uh is the right word. He took eight"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "years to use these privileges and now"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "we're going to be feeling the"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "ramifications for many, many decades as"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "presidents have to choose to reel"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "themselves back in or the other two"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "branches of government have to step up"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "and do what they're supposed to do and"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "be that check and balance."}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "It doesn't seem like we're ever going"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "back."}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "There's Well, there's no check and"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "balance now. I mean, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "Supreme Court used to be at for again"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "like the bleeding heart liberals among"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "us like, well, at least well, not"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "anymore."}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "I agree with you. I completely agree"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "with you that I don't think there's I"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "don't think there's any going back. And"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "I think that the amount of time it's"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "going to take for us to find some"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "semblance of stability is such a long"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "period of time that we have to be asking"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "ourselves the question, do we do we want"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "to be here in the middle of all that"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "adolescence or do we want to go"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "somewhere else and exist somewhere else"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "while the American"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "community or the American people figure"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "it out? Let's get to the power structure"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "of the world that has basically been"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "uprooted"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "since it was established after the"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "second world war because that's what"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "you're talking about, right? You're"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "talking about the change in global power"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "dynamic"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "after the second world war and for a"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "long time there was American superiority"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "control and what you're saying is in"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "this infighting and instability that's"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "now at risk."}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "Correct. And it's even worth going back."}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "You can actually see how during the"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "first Bush administration, the policy"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "was set in motion for uh for other"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "countries to start taking advantage of"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "what we weren't focused on. So, we were"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "focused on terrorism and war on drugs"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "and and global policing,"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "also known as the war on people of"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "color,"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "but we were engaged in all this"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "activity. That's where our money went."}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "If you talk about it like an everyday"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "person sitting at home"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "looking at their budget."}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "Exactly. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "your your paycheck came in and you chose"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "to put this much money towards this"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "global war on terror. Well, that's not"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "what your neighbors putting their money"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "in and that's not what China or Russia"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "or North Korea or Iran were putting"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "their money into. They were putting"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "their money into other efforts, right?"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "And that's how we woke up at the end of"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "the global war on terror in 2022 to a"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "modernized China that controlled the"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "that controlled shipping and supply"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "lanes that controlled rare earth"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "minerals that controlled uh uh new loan"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "agreements with third world countries"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "that had basically cloned"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "telecommunications and had cloned uh the"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "the ability to make microchips. How we"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "wondered like how did they do this so"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "fast? They didn't do it fast. It took"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "them 20 years. It's just that for those"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "20 years, we had our heads so deep in"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "the Middle East that we weren't focused"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "on anything else."}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "And the return on investment is pretty"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "low. Like not that much was accomplished"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "in terms of the progress made."}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "We made a lot of people hate us who"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "might not have before. We broke"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "international laws which just like the"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "Obama administration before the Trump"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "administration created a new president"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "and that empowered countries like"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "Israel, like like uh Syria, like Turkey,"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "like Russia to just completely abandon"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "the idea when it's convenient of"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "international order and international"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "justice. It's tough. I we're going to"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "get to global order in a second, but I"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "want to circle back to the Epstein"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "answer that you gave because implicit in"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "that answer of it not serving their"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "interests is an implication that there"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "is damning evidence in those files."}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "Otherwise, it would serve them to"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "release them."}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "And I'll I'll add to this because I know"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "Gihei her face just twisted. You all,"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "it's recorded. Her face twisted."}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "If you're only listening in audio, she"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "just left the room and she is in her"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "car. That's what her face said to us."}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "She's like, \"Do not put me on the spot."}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "I will not answer this.\""}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "My face always betrays me."}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "that could be a CIA spy."}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "The uh the You're correct. What Ji is"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "implying is is what she's implying"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "intentionally. It doesn't serve their"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "public. It doesn't serve the interest of"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "the people in power."}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "But take that to the logical conclusion."}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "And then why"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "why doesn't it serve them?"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "Now, the why is what we don't know. And"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "that's where conspiracy lives. We don't"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "know whether the reason the Epstein"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "files aren't available to us is because"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "he's got a picture hamming it up with"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "some 14-y old girl with the president."}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "We don't know if that's why"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "Michael Have you been following what"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "Michael Wolf is putting out? That guy is"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "supposedly the Epstein biographer and"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "making claims that, you know, I have"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "zero evidence to support, but he claims"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "to be the expert and has seen Polaroids"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "and has seen things that would be"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "otherwise, if true, completely damning."}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "Yeah, but these people are so slippery."}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "Apparently, you can be in a photo with a"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "14-year-old girl and still be like, \"We"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "were just posing for a photo.\" I mean,"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "that's what happened with Prince Andrew."}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "Michael Wolf claims that these are"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "topless 14-year-olds or younger. So"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "that's a little bit harder, but"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "doesn't imply guilt of, you know,"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "and this is this is the legal issue is"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "that and also, you know, feeds into does"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "it does it feed their self-interest"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "because the prosecutors have a lot of"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "discretion on who to prosecute. They do"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "not prosecute unless they have enough"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "evidence to bring it to trial and and"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "convict. So, they have to look at the"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "evidence and even if they have damning"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "evidence, number one, if they think"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "they're going to bring a case in the"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "future, they can't let that out. Number"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "two, if they don't, if they have"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "evidence, but there's not enough to"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "bring the the case, you know, out to"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "charge somebody, they can't let that"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "information out because how many how"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "many people of power are you going to"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "bring down with circumstantial evidence,"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "right? Because that's what those people"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "are going to say. that circumstantial"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "evidence. You don't have enough to"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "prosecute me and now you're defaming me."}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "And the thing to understand is America"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "survives as long as the American"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "political structure survives."}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "All the politicians understand that. So"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "what what can't happen and this is a big"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "part of the reason why two years ago I"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "said Donald Trump was never going to go"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "to jail. Never. Because you can't put a"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "former president in jail. If you were to"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "do that, that's sending a signal to the"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "entire world, hey, America doesn't have"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "their [ __ ] together. Hey, we're not as"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "stable as you think you we are."}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "I mean, I thought electing a person who"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "is not a politician who used to be a"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "reality show star was already evidence"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "of that."}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "And I think we're seeing that."}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "I clearly was wrong."}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "What about the convictions he has?"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "That's I think these are all great"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "points, right? He's got he's got a"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "conviction in New York City or in the"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "state of New York that clearly didn't"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "sway the voters."}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "No, it made people more excited. And and"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "what you're seeing parallel to all the"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "stuff that people are talking about with"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "Donald Trump, what you're seeing is a"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "decrease in in value of the US dollar."}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "You're seeing the the decline in"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "international influence of US"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "politicians and US power. You're seeing"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "Vladimir Putin, you're seeing uh"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "Xiinping, you're seeing the the North"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "Korean leadership, you're seeing uh"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "Israeli leadership stand up and push"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "back against their own commitments and"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "promises to to Donald Trump, to the"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "American president, right? You're seeing"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "people stand up in ways they've never"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "stood up before. And that's all"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "indicative of the fact that people are"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "losing confidence in the American power"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "base. That's not a bad thing for the"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "globe,"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "but that is a bad thing for the United"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "States, for the average American."}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "So, you think his indictments in New"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "York actually weakened the US global"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "power structure?"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "I I think a big part of the reason that"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "New York was willing to prosecute when"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "so many other states weren't was because"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "New York believed in justice"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "over the power over the global power"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "structure. Correct. And what we're"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "seeing now in hindsight is just what Mim"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "said when you prosecuted the guy, we"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "made him a victim. And then there was a"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "rally cry behind him of people who the"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "silent majority, which is this the"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "majority that the politicians fear the"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "most is the silent majority. The people"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "who don't really say what they really"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "think, people who don't talk politics at"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "the dinner table. Well, they're also the"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "people that I did not realize there were"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "so many of them who would say this is a"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "a disgusting person with aborant, you"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "know, tactics, treats women horribly,"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "speaks poorly about the disabled and"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "women and people of color,"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "but"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "but"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "and then insert reason here. My bank"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "account is real. Like meaning, you know,"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "there's all these voters who are going"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "to do whatever they're going to do"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "despite all that. And for me, like, you"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "know, try I was like raised as like this"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "hopeful like grandchild of immigrants of"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "like we're the greatest country in the"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "world. We're the melting pot. Just be a"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "good person, you know. And for a lot of"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "people that um yeah, that's not their"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "driving force. I'm not saying they're"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "not good people. In many cases, I do"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "believe I mean I think we have to"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "believe that or we're a completely"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "divided nation that many well-meaning,"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "good-natured people were willing to"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "gamble those certain aspects of things"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "that they may believe in for a leader"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "who again fill in the blank of what you"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "needed your president to do for you."}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "And I don't let's not forget that the"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "alternative because we're America, we"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "only gave ourselves one alternative."}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "Oh, for Pete's sake,"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "right? That we were stuck between two"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "bad choices. Yeah. And I think all"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "Americans understood that. And I think"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "your point is right on the nose."}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "I don't like to call Kamala bad."}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "There there are well we are"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "well-meaning, right? All people are"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "well-meaning."}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "No, the Democratic party stepped in it"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "and is still having trouble recovering."}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "And that also has shocked me. Like there"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "doesn't seem to be a spiral that the"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "Democratic party can come out of."}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "And that's hard. There's And in a in a"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "weird sort of parallel, the Republican"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "party is also in a spiral that they"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "didn't create. Y"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "and they also don't know how to get out."}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "They're like in a whirlpool that that's"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "just sucking them in."}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "There's a lot of there's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "complicit and I think really disgusting"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "things going on. And you know, it's"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "exactly evidence of what what you said,"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "what you know, my cynical liberal"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "parents told me. You know, people will"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "always, you know, like they'll always"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "cower to power, to money, to greed. you"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "can't trust anybody, right? I didn't"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "want to believe that was true, but I"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "when I see"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "certain, you know, Republican leadership"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "really failing to step up, like to me"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "that that denigrates the whole system."}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "There's uh I would also say that it"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "reaches beyond just the two parties."}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "It's it's international. It doesn't"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "matter what language you speak. Doesn't"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "matter where you went to school, if you"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "went to school, doesn't matter what part"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "of the country or what part of the city"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "you're in, anywhere in the world, you"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "can count on certain inevitable truths."}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "And one of those is that human beings"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "will pursue their own self-interests. We"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "are still biologically wired to do what"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "we believe will help us survive. We have"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "not yet evolved"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "cognitively to the place where we're"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "willing to accept that we might actually"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "thrive if we were to take different"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "actions."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "How do you help people under uncover who they are? And once they uncover who they"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "are, what does that mean for them? Do they have a forward path that they can now marry and go, \"Okay, that's my box. I got to run towards it.\" Or do like"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "what does that look like? So, there's a really um fun experiment or fun exercise that we do at CIA early on and and we'll"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "do it right now for everybody listening and everybody watching. So, imagine that you're given $5,000 to take a vacation,"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "right? Just giving it to you. 5 grand, take a vacation. Once you're given that information,"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "there are really only four next steps that anybody will take. And in those four next steps, you identify what's"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "known as a personal a personality's individual temperament, right? Temperament. Four different temperaments"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "will respond four different ways to this opportunity. The opportunity being $5,000 to go on vacation. The first"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "temperament is somebody known as a bear. A bear is a person who hears that opportunity and the first thing they"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "think of is who am I going to take on this vacation? Am I going to take my wife? Am I going"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "to take my kids? That's the first thing they think of is who's coming with me? I have five grand. I have a free vacation. I got to take somebody with me. And what"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "do they want? Do they want to go to Rome? Do they want to go to Paris? Do they just want a station? That's a bear."}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "First temperament. Why do you call it a bear? That's just what CIA and the MyersBriggs a bear hug. Like you're trying to take"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "people with you. Like what? They're all four animals. And what's interesting is they're kind of all four predators, too. But but the bear response, the bear"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "temperament is this. Who's coming with me? The fox temperament is to come up with ideas. All the ideas of what you"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "could do with $5,000 on vacation. I could do this. I could do that. I could go to two places. I could take a cruise"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "to a new place, then spend another five days in the new place. I could go to a third world country and take that money"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "and make it last three times as long. I could go to a first world city and blow"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "it all in two days. Yes. Right. But they have all the ideas. I could blow it in one meal, bro. Let's go."}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "That's your fox. Okay. The next temperament is a lion. A lion takes and organizes the options that are"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "available based on the constraints. I have $5,000. I have a vacation. So, let's start making a list of places,"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "costs, time of year, uh, cities, outside, uh, villages of cities, famous"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "historical monuments, and they put it all into a big organized grid. No decisions, but they make a grid, right?"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "And then your last person is your cheetah. Your cheetah is the person who just takes action. Five grand, I'll take"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "it. And I'm buying a plane ticket right away. And I'm buying a plane ticket for wherever the next plane is going, and"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "I'll figure it out from there. I'm either a cheetah or I'm I'm predominantly a cheetah with a little bit of a bear"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "without having those four temperaments. We wouldn't even have a vocabulary for how to describe ourselves to each other,"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "right? We would probably assume that we would handle it the same way. I am a fox exclusively. So, when you"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "tell me that there's an opportunity, it's all ideas. How do I want to use it? How could I use it? And I can get lost"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "in my ideas just like a bear can end up on a vacation they don't want to be on because they did what their wife wants"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "to do. Okay, that ain't me. I'm like I I tell people this is where"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "we're going. Do you want to come with me? That's basically so maybe I'm a cheetah. That sounds like a cheetah with a little bit more of a fox. I'm"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "definitely not a bear of like I'm never you I'm never finding myself in a place I don't want to be. There you go. But I I can see that from"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "a buyer's perspect like buyers in my world audience let's say my lending company right you"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "have people I go all right I have money to go and help infuse into your fix and flip or infuse in your rental or"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "whatever and we lend money it's one of my products that we sell obviously and I will see people that will go okay well"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "let me go talk to my wife I got to bring them along I got to convince them to come along for decision maker right"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "um then there's other people that go oh you're going to give me access to money let me plan out all the things I can do"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "with this money. Then there's people like, \"You gave me money, I'm buying a deal tomorrow. I'm in. I'm in.\" Okay. Interesting. So"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "interesting. So, how does this show up for people in your world? It shows up in lots of different ways, but the the main point that I'm trying"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "to communicate here is we were just talking about how how Everyday Spy, how we as a company systematize people being"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "able to understand themselves. That was just a simple version that's not based in a test or a quiz or any"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "kind of empirical research. That's really just we heard an example and already we can start to identify how we"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "ourselves are wired. What I love about you is you're already thinking about how can I use this for everybody else. Now"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "that I know the whole population breaks into four temperaments, how can I use that to make money? And hopefully that's"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "what a lot of people listening right now are thinking too in my company. That's the same thing I do. I know what the"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "first step has to look like for a bear, a cheetah, a lion or a fox. I know what"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "the first step looks like. So, when people come into my free front-end lead generator, this is where I'm screwing up, my"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "friend. I need this. I need that next piece. Like, in some of my businesses, right, I I've created 26 avatars. Not"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "simple at all. I found 26 avatars. I think that's too confusing. I think distilling that down"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "to those four and then going, what's the next step for the these people? I need this. So, keep going."}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "So, you you you find out you find a way to identify the temperament in them. And"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "that's part of what my whole free squeeze is. It's it's a quiz that people take. The quiz is based on a"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "psychological exam that we were leveraged that we leveraged at CIA. So when they finish these 12 questions, I"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "already know what their temperament is. And then based on their temperament, I give them an offer customtailored to"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "their temperament, which then increases the conversion rate of the offer, which is the first stepping point to them"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "continuing to invest. And then depending on whether they take the offer or not, I have a follow-up sequence that tests"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "whether or not the original theory that we thought is true. Or did they throw this quiz? Were they answering because"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "they were embarrassed to be true? So instead they answered what they thought was true. So we have this way of kind of"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "double-checking, pressure testing the result. And then if nothing works, then we stop spending time marketing to that"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "person because they're obviously not ready. if they went through the exam and weren't honest in the exam,"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "they're so distrusting or so they lack so much um selfawareness that they can't"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "even come in as their true authentic self. So, how are we ever going to help that person? So, we have to cut that person out. Yeah. It's a very simple version of that"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "is I have a free Facebook group, you know, a couple hundred thousand members in it and there's people we ask for your"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "email. We ask for a couple of basic pieces of information and if they don't give us their email, we don't let them"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "in. Mh. And then people DM me go, \"You kicked, you didn't let me in your Facebook group. You wouldn't give me your email.\" \"Oh, yeah, I'm not giving"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "you my email.\" Then why would I let you in my freaking Facebook group? Like, you're not ready. Obviously, you don't"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "trust me enough to let me communicate with you. So, if I can't communicate with you, why would I why would I continue to work with you?"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "And how am I going to protect the people in the group 100% from you? If you're so untrusting that you're not going to give an email, what"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "are you going to do to them when you get in here? This is part of building community, you know, private community"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "that is so important that a lot of people don't understand. I, you know, I have the largest real estate community in the world by a 10x margin."}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "And people get pissed off that I've treated it like a country club. And it's my job to protect"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "the inside people from the outside people that don't want to actually do the things to, you know, work with those"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "people. And it could be answering simple questions. It could be lying. you're like the you're obviously not a good fit"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "because again best um type of customer is a customer who's already paid you. I"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "want to protect those people in my community from those people who have never paid me because these people are obviously ready to move forward right in"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "their lives. So you guys will kind of pull those people out. You identify upfront. So what do you"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "guys have booked calls? Like how do you It's all automated. All automated. For us everything is automated. Everything is self-service. Part of my"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "scaling challenge is getting to a place where I can scale a sales team to be able to do what we do over the"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "phone with consistent results. That's CEO visionary stuff that I have to do. That's your next step. Correct."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "Okay, got it. But where we are now with the automated process, CIA believes that all people"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "are born with a spy secret superpower. For some people that means they can win"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "deals. For others, they can spot liars. Some can even seduce lovers. I built a"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "free 3inut test to help reveal to you exactly what your secret hidden"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "superpower is. All you have to do is click on the link in the description below, take the test, and start using"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "your spy superpower to stay ahead of 99% of people. I mean, we we are a lead generating machine with with"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "selfquidating offers that come in like every hour. It's it's a blast to watch"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "it all play out because it's really just math at work. Of course, it's systems at work and it's so much fun to watch."}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "Well, what's fun is that you have a product and a service that everybody on the planet really actually needs. Like whether they're going to jump into real"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "estate or finance or they're going to start a business or hell, I just want to be really good at the job I'm in, the"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "company I work for that I love and I want to be a vested partner at some point. your product of helping them"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "identify who they are and how to improve what that thing is is what everybody foundationally needs. Um do you find"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "that people come into your community and they're surprised by the results of what they've just recently found like oh this"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "is who I am. I've been fighting against the grain the entire time. Yeah, that's and that you've just nailed it. That's what a solid 80% of the"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "people who come in and really do the work. They realize that they've been fighting against their own superpower."}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "They've been fighting against the thing that makes them stand out. They've been fighting against the thing that is their competitive advantage and and they've"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "been trying to fit into something else that was never going to work. Let me just give you a quick story. When when my wife and I left CIA, my wife was also"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "a former CIA with me. You met her in there. We met at CIA. We had our first child undercover and it was it was"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "Bro, is this like a romance novel being written right now? I had my first child"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "undercover. Like, dude, this does sound like a good romance novel. Hell yes. With your long hair, you're on the front"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "cover like shirtless. You're going to have to definitely uh airbrush my pecs a little bit. But this is great. But my point is uh we we learned within"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "my child's my son's first year of life that CIA had no interest in supporting us as parents. They wanted us to be operators first and"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "they didn't give a about our kids. That was the opposite of what we wanted. I grew up in a household like we were talking about earlier where where I"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "didn't where I as a child wasn't valued. So the last thing I was going to do was not value my children. So we made the"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "decision to leave CIA. CIA didn't have a process for people leaving. It certainly didn't have a process for for young"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "successful middle managers to leave because at that point my wife and I had already had two massive operational"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "breakthroughs. We had kind of changed the face of CIA and they wanted us climbing the the corporate ladder. We"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "were like, we're going to go raise a family. They didn't know how to process that. So, they had to put us in this weird space where we weren't employed."}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "We were allowed to resign, but they didn't roll back our cover, meaning we didn't have a real resume. We had this"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "gap of seven years on our resume where nobody really knew what we did. Something was there, but there was"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "nobody that was going to pick up the phone. There was no real reference. There was no history of employment. There was nothing verifiable. So for six"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "months, we lived in my in-laws converted garage in Florida, trying to get a job"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "according to the box that society gave us, LinkedIn, and and Indeed, and"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "filling out applications and putting a lot of work into writing good cover letters and like all that And it"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "was turning into no job offers, no employment for really good reason cuz who's you're not supposed to"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "hire somebody who can't verify their last seven years of employment. When someone doesn't pick up the phone and"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "there are no references to call, there's a reason for that. Or when you call a reference and there's nobody. Yeah. They're full of"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "Exactly. So, I can completely understand why nobody would hire us. So, 6 months in a converted garage sweating our ass"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "off in Florida summer with a one-year-old in a in a play pen. I was like, \"This isn't going to work. We have"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "to cheat the system.\" And CIA taught us how to cheat the system, but we've been forcing ourselves to live in this other"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "box. What if we just take what CIA taught us about living a life undercover"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "h like lying your way into a job fraudulently creating a resume faking it until you make it and then learn using"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "learning techniques to learn quickly on the job. What if we just did that and got a job and then figured it out from"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "there. And my wife was like it can't be any worse. So we put ourselves together. She found an executive. She studied the"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "executive. She built a dossier on the executive. I approached and bumped the executive and we manipulated a scenario"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "where the executive was like, I could use a guy like you on my team. And then before we knew it, boom, I was hired."}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "$80,000 100% remote in Florida. As soon as I was hired with the executive's grace, I went to the HR person. I was"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "like, you know who else you want to hire is my wife. Boom. A week later, my wife's hired. $80,000 100% remote fully from Florida. We have a combined income"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "of $160,000 in Florida in 2014. Oh, yeah. We buy a house for 200k and"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "now life is gravy. And that's just the beginning of what turned into four or five years of"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "incredible corporate success before it dawned on us that we were like, if we"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "can actually do this ourselves, we put this into a program, we can do this for"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "thousands of people. And that's how Everyday Spy was born. Who do you feel like Everyday Spy is for"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "at the at its foundation? At its foundation, Everyday Spy is for the person who"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "is trying to have that financial breakthrough. But that financial breakthrough is different for everybody."}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "Is this a nineto-ive person? I'm thinking it's a nineto-ive person. The people that we touch the most, that we really love to touch are the people"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "who are making the leap from 35, $45,000 a year, working their ass off, or the"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "person getting paid $75,000 a year to work, you know, 3,000 hours a year. That"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "person has a chance to become an entrepreneur. a person has the chance to get a better job. That person has a chance to become the boss. And our"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "lessons apply to the corporate mindset so easily that it's not a big stretch"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "for them. Then we have the people who are multi-million dollar business owners, two to five million business"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "owners annually. Those are the next people that we target because we can have the biggest impact on them. And we"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "don't have to teach all the corporate lessons, right? We just have to teach the mindset and the and the psychology. This group, the"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "group of nineto-5ers, psychology is a little bit beyond their reach. But simple systems is fair. The person who's"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "already running a multi-million dollar business already has simple systems. What that person needs is psychological breakthroughs."}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "Are you doing any challenges or webinars? We have challenges. We have both. Um, my"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "webinars are few and far between because what I find is that um my front-end webinars, while valuable, I'm just lazy."}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "That's the real reason I don't do webinars is because Oh, I love the honesty because I'm like they they make money. They're super easy. They're super fast."}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "It's just not what gives me a thrill. What gives me a thrill is watching the scoreboard on my wall just naturally"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "increase with with lead genen that's all self-mated and then going and meeting. You do challenges. We do challenges and and our challenges"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "by and large are actually physical first because we can show people physical breakthroughs using our systems."}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "How do I be a part of that? So, uh, if you look up everyday spy spyfitit, then you'll find that there's a spyfitit"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "challenge that pops up every six weeks. You can get on weight list. You can join us. Right now, we have a spyfitit that"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "launches on Thursday of this week. Uh, and that spyfitit challenge is a challenge that brings people into how"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "spies physically train. And it's like six weeks long. Our challenge right now"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "is a muscle builder challenge. We have a weight loss challenge. We have a mental health challenge. And we literally transform people's lives in the first 14"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "days, but then they just sit with us for the next six weeks for accountability. For accountability and to see how far"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "they can go in six weeks. If you've seen how far you can go in two weeks. Oh, dude. Yeah. You give people evidence, they won't"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "stop. That's exactly what we found, right? I think that's where a lot of people that are stuck in their life, they the only evidence they have is that they can't do it. And so, they are just"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "continually living that cycle like, \"Oh, I I have evidence, but the evidence is that I don't do what I say I'm going to do. I don't have accountability. I lie"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "to myself. That's my evidence. If you can get people through two weeks of new evidence, bro, you're they're not going to stop. You've rewritten a condition."}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "So, somebody comes through this, right? They come through your six weeks challenge. What's your next evolution for that person? Because is it, hey, I"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "want to prove to you you can change your physical life. You can change your mindset. You can change these things. So, maybe it's time for you to start"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "looking at building a business. Essentially, um CIA structures all espionage around a a pyramid called the"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "National Security Triangle. And the three parts of that pyramid um align in"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "everyday life to health, wealth, and relationships. Three sides of the pyramid."}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "The difference between those three elements, those foundations to all of our lives. We all have a health element."}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "We all have a wealth element. We all have a relationships element. The difference between those three is how fast you can make a change. It's very"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "hard to make a change to your wealth in a short period of time, right? It's also very hard to make a change to your relationships in a short period of"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "time. But I can literally change your health in less than 24 hours. If I can convince you to do a couple of things"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "before you go to sleep tonight, when you wake up feeling better tomorrow, your life has changed. And you believe it"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "right away. Yeah. Right. Once you get them to believe in one pillar, then you're like, \"Hey, you're going to get healthy.\" You"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "already know you're going to get healthy because we're working on this. The next thing you need to change is your relationships"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "because relationships supercharge your ability to create wealth, right? Or they hold them back. And"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "relationships, just like you were saying, relationships can be rewritten quickly. They can't be rewritten in 24"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "hours, but they can be rewritten in 72 hours. If you and I change just a few things that we do with our spouses, our"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "spouses will believe a change has occurred, right? If we change just a few things with our kids, a few things with our employees, a"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "few things on our podcast, the viewer will literally think a change has occurred. They will believe the change"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "even if it's an accidental change. So, you can transform relationships in a matter of days. you can transfer inform"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "health in a matter of hours. So all we're doing is creating a system of empirical evidence that leads people to"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "the point where when we say okay now your your health is improving your relationships are top-notch let's secure"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "this legacy genius and change your wealth. It's genius because it's exactly what"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "people actually need. It's not man manipulation. Correct. It's m it's it's motivation. And so you go through in"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "that six week challenge. Do you focus only on health or do you go health relationships and then at the end you talk about wealth?"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "So we're always this is what we I mentioned earlier that there's a process called priming. So we always have to prime and I'm sure you do it too. You"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "always have to prime people for what's coming next. You can't make you can't get people to turn a sharp right after 6"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "weeks. Instead what you have to do is tell them every week a right turn is coming. A right turn is coming. A right"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "turn is coming. And then when you tell them about the right turn they've already accepted that it's coming. Right. Right. So for 6 weeks we focused"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "we focus 80% on health and then we make sure that people understand hey how are your relationships benefiting from the"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "change in health. How's your relationship with your wife? Are you are you spending more time with friends? How's work feeling? How are your"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "co-workers? How's conflict is conflict still stressing you out or do you find that conflict doesn't stress you out like it used to because you have more"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "physical resources because of your fitness. Right? So we're priming and priming and priming until that comes the end of that six weeks and we're like hey"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "you feel good, you're sleeping great. You're leaner than stronger than you've ever been. You're ready to take the next step and put that to work and building a"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "better relationship. Getting back to uh being in love with your partner. Getting back to feeling sexy when you're at"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "home. Getting back to feeling confident when you're out on the single trail. Getting back to the place where you're the person in work that everybody"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "notices when you walk in the door, right? Helping people to tie in the relationship benefits of a new physical"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "life. W I love that. Okay. So, you guys do that. How do people get there again? People get there by if you go to if you"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "look up everydayspy.com and you type in spyfitit spyfitt, you'll find your way right into our spyfitit program. If you"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "go to everydayspy.com and you sign up anywhere on everyday spy, you're also going to be invited to the next spyfitit"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "challenge. So the fastest way to get there is really just go to our website, take the quiz. We were just talking"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "about the free lead genen. Take the quiz, find out what your temperament is, find out what kind of spy you would be,"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "and then boom, you're going to get the invitation to the next spy challenge. You do you have a new book coming out or have you recently released one?"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "So, um, my wife and I's romance novel, our our CIA Hell yeah, bro. Undercover Babies is the"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "name is the name of it. Our CIA memoir is called, uh, Shadow Cell. It hits the shelves uh, September"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "9th worldwide. It's being published by Little Brown, which is an imprint of Hashet. So, we have a big five publisher"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "backing our story, and it's already re it's already getting just incredible reviews from literary critics, but also"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "from everyday people. It's been spectacular. I read that book. What do I get out of it? When you read Shadow Cell, you're going to understand first the most"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "modern current CIA espionage story ever told. It's it's less than a decade old,"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "whereas most everything else you read is about cold war spying or spying during the war on terror. Right. So, we wanted"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "the most contemporary, honest, transparent memoir ever written that tells the story of what CIA operations"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "look like right now against America's largest adversary. We can't disclose who"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "that adversary is. So, I'm gonna have to let your imagination do the work for you. But CIA three years ago when they"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "read this manuscript, CIA deemed our book a classified document from end to end and it could not be released. It"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "took three years of legal fighting and ultimately resulted in the threat of a First Amendment lawsuit before CIA let"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "us release this book. Wow, that's great. Yeah. So, you're going to find out about how tradecraftraft works. You're going"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "to find out about how our adversary works. You're going to find out about how CIA actually builds and runs operations. And through it all, it's"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "it's teaching because like I told you, our mission is spy education that breaks barriers. We don't do anything without"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "education. So even though it's a memoir, it's kind of like a sugar-coated pill that also teaches you about how spies"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "approach problems, solve problems, think through priorities, and uh and execute tradecraftraft."}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "What's the country we should be the most afraid of? China. And followed by who? There's not even a close second. There's"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "not even a close second. China is our number one geopolitical, military and economic threat. If we can neutralize"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "China, we are golden. How would you do that if you are, let's say, a CIA operation? How would you do"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "that? The first thing is to cut China off from its source of wealth and its primary"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "source of wealth right now is actually re-engineering Western technology and selling it as a nice way of saying copying our"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "Yeah, copying our And not just our French, British, German, Polish,"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "they just steal everything that works and then recreate it on their own and half the cost. Offer it off at half the cost. And what"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "that does is it creates an opportunity for the rest of the world to pick someone else to send their money,"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "including Europe. Even Europe is choosing Chinese electric vehicles over"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "other electric vehicles when Chinese EV technology was just stolen from other countries, right? And you can't really"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "deal with patent law because you're country to country, right? So there's no way to really govern that, I would say."}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "And they're such a massive um comp I mean, it's a country, but it's really a a a"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "company. They're a massive operation and they're so freaking big that they can get so"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "much done so fast, you almost have no ability to keep up with them. And that's why Donald Trump's tariffs"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "against China made a ton of sense. And they still are making sense because that's what they're designed to do is"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "cut China off from its wealth. If China can't ste, you've got to think of wealth"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "um as limited, right? There's only a limited amount of money in the world. Even with countries printing money, there's still just a limited amount of"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "true capital. So when one country becomes wealthier, that only happens if"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "somebody else is losing it, right? So as China gets wealthier, what it's doing is it's taking that wealth from the west"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "and predominantly from the United States. So that's their strategic ambition is to not ever be in open"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "conflict with anybody until the economic tiles flip because one of the reasons"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "the United States is so powerful is economically we're powerful and we've turned that economic engine into a"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "military power source. Right? We spend the most. We have the best technology. We have the newest"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "training or the newest uh weapons and the best trained troops because we can spend that money. As soon as we lose"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "money, we have to start saving. We can't spend on those things, right? We have to put money into something else. On the flip side, when China has"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "excess capital, then they're going to have the most modern weapons. They're going to have the best trained troops. They're going to have"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "and we lose our edge. And we lose our edge. And and China has watched how we built our edge from the end of World War II. And then when we"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "focused exclusively on the global war on terror, where was China building?"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "Exactly. They were not fighting that war. So we put trillions of dollars into a war on terror that we ultimately lost."}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "And then China took all that time to steal our technology while our back was turned, build a whole new technological"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "base, and then start selling it to the world. The the argument that people have is that China is not such a threat"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "because it has all these domestic issues. Oh, it's it's overpop populated and it's got social welfare issues and blah blah blah. No, it doesn't. It's not"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "the United States. It doesn't believe in social welfare. China has already demonstrated with its cultural"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "revolution that when it needs to reduce or when it needs to enrich the per capita rate, it just kills millions of"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "people. That's what it does. So, if you're looking at China, you're like, \"Oh, the per capita rate right there is"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "like $13,000 per person.\" Where in the US we make, you know, $24,000 per person. Once China lets a million people"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "die, 10 million people die, all of a sudden that per capita goes up because it's a small group of people in China"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "making most of the income. The rest are just hangers on. Yeah. Worker bees."}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "And they don't need them. And China knows that when when your job is to create widgets, you need worker bees."}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "But when your job is to create technology, you don't. So all the social welfare that used to"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "be there to protect manufacturing workers is going away. And the the future Xiinping wants for the country is"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "a future where they are high-tech, where they are handling financial products, where they are basically carbon copies"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "of what the United States has been for the last 50 years. That's scary and brilliant. They're the only country"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "doing it somehow. If I were them, I would do the same thing. Correct. Right. And I can only feel I mean, they're essentially feeling,"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "hey, we're this massive organization, but this these guys are the bully in the in the playground. Yeah. I want to take"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "that bully down. What you're going to do is you're not going to pick a fight with them right now. You're going to play nice and you're going to build up and"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "behind the scenes you're going to be going to the gym and you're going to be doing the thing and you're not going to cause any conflict until you're stronger"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "and more capable than that. So right now you don't really see China causing issues and poking the bear"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "because they are trying to get big enough that they can essentially overtake us and be have an edge over us"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "which right now it's here. Exactly. You can think of it like the playground where you've got the bully and then you've got the kid that doesn't"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "like the bully or you can think of it like business where you have the leading competitor and then you have all the"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "second and third level competitors. What do we do? We take market share, right? We take market share knowing that as we"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "steal that market share. And the best thing you do is they just steal like for me I'm I'm the leading"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "person in the real estate world at least from a community size. So what people do all my competitors they don't create."}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "Yep. They steal and they go, \"Okay, that's working. I'm going to take this. I'm going to take market share. Take market share.\" They"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "even will like go to their four or five buddies and go, \"Let's all try and take and steal from PACE's ideas.\""}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "So, I have to come up with new ideas and be three years ahead of them. So, while they're working on my ideas that I was working on three years ago, I already"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "know, hey, you guys are working on three year ago ideas, I'm already on to the next idea. And so you look at like at"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "Trump's America where Trump is trying to push forward and actually create things and go and get, you know, foreign"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "investments into into our country and better alignment with foreign affairs, all of those types of things. You see,"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "he's doing a good job from that perspective. Otherwise, China is going to be just stealing all the stuff that"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "we were doing 10 years ago, right? And and unfortunately, we are in a political cycle right now where China"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "understands that a a competitive combative president that's going to"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "aggressively move is a temporary president and then shortly after that we're going"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "to get a placated passive president that comes in and then they'll take their action. So, doesn't that suck, dude?"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "It sucks big time. And that's why I'm not optimistic about the next 12 to 20"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "12 to 20 years for the United States. Oh my gosh, that's so scary to think about. I thought about it, too. It's like you"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "feel the forward momentum from the business standpoint. I mean, even the big beautiful tax bill that helps me as an investor, you know, tax depreciation"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "and all the beautiful things it gives me. I look at that, I go, this is great. It's great for people that are producing jobs. I've got 300 plus employees. It's"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "great for me. But what will happen is the other side of our political bipolar"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "world, they're going to push so hard against the Trump world and they're going to create whatever they got to create so"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "they can take that back over and we're going to go back to the plated little person that's not really doing"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "anything, not creating anything. And that's when China is going to have another surge of momentum. Yeah. The we've got to we have to"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "remember that the United States became the world's largest superpower not by being friends with anybody. It became"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "the world's largest superpower by telling everybody what to do and stepping on toes every step of the way."}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "We rebuilt Germany. We rebuilt France. We rebuilt the UK. We rebuilt Japan. We"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "took advantage of a war torn world and we forced our debt on them. And we forced our currency on them and we"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "forced trade on them. And as a result of that, the whole world grew stronger and"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "wealthier with the United States leading the way. That wasn't us being nice, right? That was us twisting and"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "manipulating. Where we could motivate, we motivated because motivating is always cheaper than manipulating. But"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "where somebody couldn't be motivated because they had a strongman dictator or because they had some sort of tribalism"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "or because they had whatever else, we just went in and we took it away from them and we forced them to bend to our"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "will. Was that fair? Nope. Was it nice? Nope. Was it diplomatic? No. Even what"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "we call diplomacy isn't really fair. It's us putting pressure on people to do"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "what they are supposed to do that benefits us. We're not a fair country."}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "We need to stop kind of chasing our own tail. When we get a politician in office"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "that thinks that we're actually fair, like that's a bad thing. We have to"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "understand that our advantage comes from our leverage. Our diplomatic leverage is tied to our economic leverage. Our"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "military leverage is tied to our economic leverage. If you're not if you're not valuing what our true arsenal"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "is, then we're not going to the Hey,"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "what up?"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "CIA taught us that there's a connection between childhood trauma and high performance. CIA calls you in on the"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "first day of orientation. They sit everybody down. They say, \"Welcome to CIA.\" You take your oath and then they"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "basically roll into a whole presentation about how you're all a little up. So, what makes it so great for the job?"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "And it makes you perfect for the job. And they say, \"Hey, you are all victims of some level of childhood trauma.\" And"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "that trauma is what has made you who you are today."}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "I just had an awesome weekend at Space Camp with our son."}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "I had no idea it was going to be so much fun. Really? Well,"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "space camp. Well, I'm not even talking about space camp. The space camp was cool,"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "but the time with him, like the one-on-one time with our son"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "was amazing. Yeah. I mean, we left on Wednesday. We had two days in Huntsville, Alabama, just the"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "two of us. And then we had two days camping at the Huntsville, Alabama Space and Rocket"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "Center for for two full days. And that was also awesome. But man, that was four days and"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "four days and four airplane rides and like it was just amazing to be with him uninterrupted for that time."}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know that you've had that before. I had it last year. I"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "sent the kids to different camps just experimenting and um so I know I had one"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "week with Cena alone, but this was the first time I've been with Eli alone and"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "I was actually a little bit scared to be alone with our six-year-old. Well, I don't I mean I'm not surprised to hear"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "that because you guys have an interesting relationship. I I don't really understand sometimes"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "how you view your relationship with the kids and especially not with our daughter, our youngest."}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "Yeah. Because both of you have like chili pepper tempers. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "So, what was it like for you? Cuz I mean I can tell you full on my time with our son, our my time with Cena was amazing."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "Yeah. What was it like with a lie? So on the first day actually, she voiced what I"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "had been concerned about the last few weeks where she like halfway through the day she was like, \"Mom,\" and she's six,"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "right, \"Mom, I didn't really know if I'd had fun with you.\" I was like, \"Oh.\" I was like, \"Why"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "is that baby?\" And she's like, \"I didn't think we would get along.\" I was like, \"Oh.\" And that's exactly what I'd been"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "thinking. Like, \"What if we don't get along?\" Cuz normally we're butdding heads, right? Our tempers clash. are"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "like we're just like two rams all the time, right? But being alone with her was amazing"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "because I realized what happens is she needs she's a different age and a different temperament. She needs a different level"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "of engagement than our son does. Our son's just so much like me. Like he wants to put on his audio book and just"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "go do his own thing. And I realized that especially because being with him for 4 days, I felt like I"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "was with you. I felt like I was with the best parts of you and the best parts of me."}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "Yeah. Because he really is a mix of both of us. But it seemed really, it was really easy for me to be around him because I"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "was like, \"Oh, I know how to be around your mom.\" Yeah. So, I know how to be around you. I can tell when you need quiet time. I can"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "tell when you need space away. I can tell when you need, you know, a word of encouragement. Yeah. So, I was concerned because our"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "daughter need I I felt like our daughter needed like constant engagement and and I'm an introvert and so I was like, what"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "am I going to get space? But it turned out that she just needs engagement. She wants to know that you're there with"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "her. She had this whole thing like we went and got Manny Petty's together. She had this whole thing about being twinsies and um you know doing things"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "together. But when we weren't doing things together, she she had her she would put on her"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "audio book and then go do her own thing. And I had a quiet house and it was amazing. Um, you know, and I found that"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "without the distraction and the overwhelm of having more people in the"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "house and of having other things to do because I also chose not to work when I was with her. So, I got to spend really"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "just quality time focused on her. I was so much more patient. She was so much more pleasantly engaging. I didn't"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "get yelled at once in 4 days. I mean, that's a record, you know. And she yells. She yells."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "She yells a lot. She yells a lot. And I'm realizing that I I mean I've suspected that she yells"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "to compete because she's she's six, her brother's 10. So if she wants to be heard over him cuz"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "he'll just he just goes on a like he'll just talk. He'll talk about his day, he'll talk"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "about his ideas, he'll just talk. And the only way she can be heard is to yell over him. And then he's also kind of a sensitive"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "boy. So sometimes she'll yell like as a verbal way of punching him. Yeah. like a verbal punch in the face."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "And she I swear she does the same thing to you that like you interpret her volume and it like it aggravates your Yeah. I"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "mean it it it seems to affect your anxiety. It makes your anxiety spike. It seems to affect your like emotions when"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "she's loud. Yeah. It hurts you. Yeah. So, it's interesting because I think the your like our time kind of"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "apart and then our solo time with the kids during this trip really gave us"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "amazing reflection time because I was able to reflect on, you"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "know, why does she yell? How does it actually make me feel? Why does our son react the way he does to things? Um, and"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "you know, I didn't grow up in a house where we yelled. You know, yelling wasn't a thing you did. We lived in a a"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "one-story house. You know, you the rule was you walk over to talk to somebody. The only time we got yelled at is when"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "you were actually in trouble. Um and then really it was really my mom like with a wooden spoon smacking it on"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "the table like threatening you, you know. Um it was great."}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "Um so so the yelling really has been like a trigger for me, but I know that I"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "also yell. Yeah. Yeah. When you lose your temper, when you lose your cool,"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "you absolutely I really It's like a volcano exploding. It is. I mean, and it's always been that"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "way with you. You've always been the person who's kind of slow to anger, but when you when you tip,"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "it is a that's it. Big mess. It's a big molten lava mess. And I know it took me a little while to"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "get used to that when we were dating. And then I think since we've been married, I've kind of learned how to"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "bring you up to boil but not make you boil over. Yeah. The kids don't know how to do that though. Yeah. And it's funny cuz you know, one of the"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "things that I talked about with Cena when we were gone was asking him"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "why he feels the need to be so apologetic. And we've talked about this. Yes. Because our son"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "is he has a tendency to over apologize. Yeah. For the last at least year, um"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "I've noticed this really serious over apologizing, which I do. Yep."}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "And I know why I do it. Like I know, you know, from my childhood why I am the way"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "I am. But I was like, why is why is my son doing it? And I thought, well, maybe I'm I'm modeling it. Right. God doesn't"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "over apologize. Correct. And what we're talking about here is his answer to almost every challenge is"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "I'm sorry. Yep. everything. If you say, you know, hey, baby, can you, you know, pick up"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "your shoes? I'm sorry. Sorry. Yes, I'll do it. Sorry. Yeah. Right. Please don't eat this or please"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "don't go there or can you please call me when you Sorry. Sorry. Yeah. Sorry. Like it's just it comes out so fast. And"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "you're right. Like you you also do that. Yeah. And it's always been kind of aggravating"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "to me because I'm not corre I'm not correcting you, right? I'm not saying that you've done anything"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "wrong. I am literally just sometimes asking for a favor, sometimes just challenging your point of view."}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "Right? CIA believes that all people are born with a spy secret superpower. For some"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "people, that means they can win deals. For others, they can spot liars. Some can even seduce lovers. I built a free"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "3inut test to help reveal to you exactly what your secret hidden superpower is."}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "All you have to do is click on the link in the description below, take the test, and start using your spy superpower to"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "stay ahead of 99% of people. Ask probing for a little bit more, right? Tell me why you want to go see"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "the new Sonic movie. Sorry, Dad. I just I really think No, I just I would like to know why you want to see the Sonic"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "movie. There's no apology needed. Right. Right. And that's the key is there's no apology needed. You're apologizing for something that requires"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "no apology. And then the you know I started reading about I I my concern was"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "was what is behind that? I'm sorry. Right. Because what how did it happen for you? Why do"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "you said that you know why you do it? Why do you do it? Well, for for me, I"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "grew up in a household where you know, my mother ruled the house and"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "you know, I just remember there were little things like, you know, B was for bad, right? I remember that my mom"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "saying that like if you brought home a B from school, like B is for bad. Really? Yes."}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "B is for bad. And I, you know, I was a high performer. I was a I was a high performer like"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "throughout elementary school and then middle school got harder because I started going into these advanced programs and the coursework got harder"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "and then my social life started to get in the way. Um but you know there was like a very high expectation of the way"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "that you were supposed to be and I was expected to fall in line, right? Like my mom grew up in a household where"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "children were seen and not heard and you know spare the rod and spoiled child and she didn't raise us that way but you"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "could see through her parenting that that's the background she came from and there was still an element of authoritarianism in the house. Um and so"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "and I am I have the kind of personality that it's easy for me I want to people please and so it's easy for me to fall"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "into that over apologizing to try to please people. The problem is that the more you apologize when you are not"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "supposed to be apologizing, the more your self-esteem takes a hit, right? Because suddenly you hear yourself like"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "you are you are saying I'm sorry so often that you start to internalize that"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "you are actually sorry like it's your fault like you're to blame that you are the problem. And that's not accurate at"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "all. And so when we I started seeing our son do it I was like we have to nip this in the butt. like whatever the cause is,"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "we have to we have to stop it and reverse it for his like for the sake of his future, right?"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "Yeah. You know what's funny? And it's not funny, but it's but I call it funny. Like in my household, be be wasn't for"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "bad. Be wasn't anything that made people proud of you. Yeah. And my mom was someone I was always"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "trying to make proud. Yeah. I was always trying to make my stepdad proud, too. I mean, it was just I don't"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "think that guy he was in his own world the whole time that we were kids, which I'm also starting to relate to as a"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "parent. Yeah. Sometimes it's hard Yeah. to not to like pull yourself out of your"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "own world and recognize that your kids have their own world, too. Yeah. But I mean, I spent a summer grounded"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "because I brought home a C in math. Wow. I lost my whole summer because I brought home a C. And I'll"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "never forget that. That was a hard It was a hard lesson for me, right? And then I grew up in a household where we"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "were hit. I grew up in a household where I was hit. My sisters, my halfsisters sometimes had"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "a different experience. But I mean, I was hit with hands. I was hit with leather belts. Yeah. I was hit with whatever people could get"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "their hands on. I was scratched and clawed sometimes, right? When when when we were in the car for a long a long"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "road trip, if my mom couldn't grab something fast enough, she would just reach back and scratch me. Yeah. And your mom was raised in a"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "household where everything was very competitive. Yeah. Very competitive. And there was um you know physical discipline. I'm sure I"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "think your your stepdad's older than your mom. He's old school. Like I think physical discipline I'm guessing was a part of his household too."}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "Yeah. Well and I think what what I'm noticing here and I mean it wasn't necessarily"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "like a therapist that helped us through this. But CIA taught us that there's a connection"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "between childhood trauma and high performance. And it's a really humbling day when CIA calls you in. And that's how it works."}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "CIA calls you in on the first day of orientation. They sit everybody down. They say, \"Welcome to CIA.\" You take"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "your oath and then they basically roll into a whole presentation about how you're all a little up."}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "What makes you so great for the job and it makes you perfect for the job. And they kind of throw it in your face right away and they say, \"Hey, you are"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "all victims of some level of childhood trauma and that trauma is what has made you"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "who you are today.\" Mhm. And it's it's a powerful lesson to realize that childhood trauma, the stuff"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "that makes our childhood so painful, is actually what makes us stronger and"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "more resilient as adults. It's what makes us successful. For those people who have it, they know exactly what I'm"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "talking about. And for those people who are raising children, we're all asking ourselves the"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "question of, are we raising soft children? Are we raising are we raising hard children? Are we raising successful"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "children? Are we raising children that are going to fall behind? And I know for you and I, we are always"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "wondering how how do we introduce how do we raise our children"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "in a way where they will succeed without having to cause the trauma,"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "right, that we have been taught is so vital to their success, right? And I think you know"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "trauma is you know one word but I think you know really it's adversity right and like trauma is a way that adversity can"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "come into your life but you have to be so careful because like we've seen with our son like when you asked him when did"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "you start a overapologizing right yeah he said he said he was about seven"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "years old. Yeah, he it was so interesting because when I asked him I asked him when do you start"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "remembering saying you're sorry for everything? Mhm. And he specifically like almost instantly he was like I was about six or"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "seven which was only what 4 years ago 3 years ago and I don't I was like"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "what happened what happened when we were six or seven I don't remember what happened that would make what was the light switch"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "and I knew exactly what he was talking about because when he was seven was when we moved back to Tampa from the UAE. It"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "was during COVID and we had to leave. Um, and we it was we left our nanny, we left our nanny, we left our whole"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "lifestyle, our whole support network and it was it was like right in the middle"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "of the pandemic and everything was shut down and so we had to catch like we spent months just trying to catch a"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "flight to get to America because they had repatriation flights that they would fly you just anywhere in the country."}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "Um, so you know, we had tried to fly into DC. That flight was cancelled. Tried to fly into some place else. Yep."}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "And so we ended up taking, you know, catching a rep repatriation flight into Chicago."}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "Um, you know, landing there after 15 hours. We had to get an apartment from the UAE. You were looking, you know, so"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "it was just really hard. Like it was sight unseen. We showed up and, you know, we took what we could get."}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "Like we were trying to buy a used car at the time, which was like almost impossible. Um, so you know there were"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "all these challenges happening and then when we came back we had no support network because we had to come back so"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "fast and you were still working full-time, right? You were still building the business and then I ended"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "up being with the kids and it was really stressful for me and so I know exactly what he was talking about"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "because that was the time when I started to yell and it never happened when you were home"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "because when you were home you were my buffer, right? So when you were home and I was about to lose it, I could walk"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "away and there was another adult there, right? But when I was by myself and I was trying so hard, but there were just"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "moments that like I didn't even I couldn't even anticipate that I was going to lose my temper because I was"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "like, I'm doing good. I'm taking my deep breaths. I took five minutes. I'm just going to step out on the porch. And then"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "suddenly it's just you know one more time the fifth time that I've asked you guys to brush your teeth and you have"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "either yelled at me no or you have completely ignored me and then bam yelling and then it's like"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "we've talked about it like an actual volcano like it's not just a yell,"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "right? It's this deluge of like lava that comes out like just this word vomit"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "of like you guys never listen to me and blah blah blah and I'm so stressed out and your dad's not here just with you. you"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "know, just on and on, right? Which to a child, like they can't conceptualize at"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "all what you're going through. So, it was really And he was seven. He was seven. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "And Eli was three. Three. So, she has no recollection, I am"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "certain. Um, but he does and that was a really pivotal point for him, right? And"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "so we can see that my actions and that adversity that I caused for him,"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "you know, has created this over apologizing that down the line will not"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "create grit, right? That's not going to be helpful for him. So I think, you know, one of the things that I'm"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "thankful for that the CIA has taught us is ongoing assessment. Like we are continually assessing our parenting"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "impact on the kids. I think, you know, I know I think mo a lot of people parent,"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "you know, the way that they were parented and they don't think about it and they think, you know, I turned out fine. I mean, my I know our parents are"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "always we've all heard that my kids turned out fine, right? But for you and I, like we we're constantly assessing over time the"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "impact that that we have on our children. And because we are making that constant assessment, we can pick up on"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "things like this early on to mitigate and um you know stop stop the the"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "adverse effects of our actions and turn it around and try to do something better. And you know like I want to"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "create adversity for our children but positive adversity, right? so they can get some grit in there and so they can"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "you know have jobs where you know when the going gets tough like you know how"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "many like Delta Force guys have we met that the stories I've heard from them"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "are so incredible and they go through that and you know I've been told that you know they they"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "have psychologists that they speak to before they go out on a mission when they come back from a mission but they still have to process all of that right"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "so what is you know what are these personality traits. I mean, I feel like so many parents, you know, that's the"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "question. How do you properly prepare your children for the adversity that's to come?"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "So, I I feel like you just you just gave us a lava deluge of of a sort right there. You went to like four awesome"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "things passionate about all the stuff I've done wrong."}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "It feels so horrible to be like, \"Oh my god, I'm the one.\" Like, I have to stop."}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "like I have to fix my yelling problem, you know. So, it's interesting because you you I"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "think you're right that you know 2020ish was when life got really difficult for"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "us because we came back from we were on a big very lucrative contract overseas and we came back to the US and it was in"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "the middle of COVID just like you said everything was difficult and the business was not slowing down the"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "business was expanding so I was gone I remember those days I remember those those months"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "traveling during co which were some of favorite months to travel because the airports were empty, the airplanes were"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "like the hotels were empty, everybody was on their best behavior. Y but I mean that was months away from"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "home and I remember you telling me that it wasn't easy when I was gone and I"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "always just kind of assumed that what you meant is it wasn't easy for you. I never imagined that I was gone and what"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "that meant is that you were losing your temper with the kids."}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "Yeah. yelling at the kids, reprimanding the kids like that you your stress was"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "being manifest and projected onto them. Yes. And it didn't strike me until Cena met"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "and his his overapologizing is something I've noticed, but it was something you really kind of turned me on to. You were"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "like, I don't like this. Yeah. And I think you know it because you've grown up that way. You're 43 years old"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "now and you still say you're sorry about things that don't have any they're not your fault. So you"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "saw this in him. We started exploring it in him and I I mean it was hard to hear"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "him say like yeah it was about seven years old and then as soon as I mentioned that to you"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "you knew it was because you Yeah. I mean essentially you were I mean you"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "were abusing the kids Yeah. with your own words and your own actions. Y"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "and he remembers that. Yeah. That is super heavy. And I I hope you"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "don't feel like I'm blaming you because what what I'm feeling Yeah. is that I was absent and my absence is"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "what started that whole thing. Yeah. Because you I mean you from the time we got married you told me don't ever make"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "me a stay-at-home mom. I did. Don't ever don't ever leave me alone with the kids. Like you were telling me"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "that before we even had kids. And yet somehow after all of that conversation, we still"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "found ourselves in a situation where we did exactly what we told each other and ourselves"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "not to do. So, you know what's really fascinating is, you know, when when you're at the"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "agency and you're planning a mission, right, we always have contingencies, right? The reason that uh you know,"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "officers that go out into the field or train the way that they are so that they can make decisions in the field on the"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "fly, right? Because situations change. And I feel like if you look at our life, that's exactly what's happened."}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "I married you because I thought you were going to be like,"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "I don't even know if I want to hear this. I was like, he was in the I was like, he went to like a military academy. He was"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "in the military. Now he's in the government. Like golden. Like here's this steady guy. We're going to have"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "like government jobs and retire with a pension and do, you know, the whole 9 to5 and commute, you know, three hours"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "to work and whatever. um and you know put our kids in school and be you know the whatever and um you know the family"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "that they make sitcoms about. But instead our life has completely pivoted."}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "Right. So when when not when we got married I would say when we decided to"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "have kids in my mind I was like I will have kids because Andy is my partner"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "right? I always knew I would only ever have kids if I had a partner to support me because I had a dog once and I"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "learned the hard way that when I am stressed out and I am alone, it's like it's not good. Like I can't"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "handle the stress of caring for another living creature if I don't have support."}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "Um, so I was like, Andy's going to be there. Andy's going to co-parent. We're good. And then we stepped away from CIA."}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "We stepped into the business. We had another kid, right? So now we have two and now the business requires you to"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "travel and now I'm alone with the kids with two kids with two kids"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "with two little creatures that depend on you. So I feel like now we're in like the portion of the mission where we got on"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "the ground right the primary plan has failed. Yes. Exactly. The alternate plan has failed."}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "Exactly. And what is our contingency plan? Right. So now we're really having to like reassess the situation and be like,"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "you know what, because I think in the beginning we were like, travel's going to slow down. Travel's going to, you"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "know, like maybe not stop it. It'll slow down and I'll be home a lot more and whatever. And the truth is that our"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "business continues to grow at a rate where that's just not possible. At least not for the next definitely not for the"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "next year or maybe not for the next three years. And our kids are still little, right? And I'm still me. like my"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "core personality traits aren't going to change. So now we have to you know we"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "have to figure out how do we approach this mission of raising children while growing a business in a way that will"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "make us successful that will you know make sure that the kids are successful that we are successful like how do we"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "how do we do this now because it's not at all the way that we had originally planned it but now we're in it so we"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "have to plan on the fly right which I think the CIA gave us like really amazing training and skills to be able"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "to do And what's interesting is the agency taught us that there's a connection between childhood trauma and"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "high performance. And then we tried so hard not to cause trauma."}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "Yeah. Only to find out that we are causing trauma. Like what what what has happened"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "to our son that has led him to overapologize is the definition of childhood trauma. Absolutely. my traveling, my being gone"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "for some of the core years in our daughter's life, the reason that she's so sweet and so attached to me is in"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "part because we have caused I have caused her trauma. So even in our every effort not to cause"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "trauma, right? We are causing trauma, right? And we know that the trauma we cause"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "will potentially lead to a high performing adult in our children. So two"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "questions. My first question is now that you have kind of come to the realization"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "that you have traumatized Yeah. our son with your temper. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "How do you feel about that? I feel horrible. I feel like an absolutely horrible person."}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "Even though you know that the trauma that you've given him is going to be what translates into part of his success"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "in the future. I think it's only going to translate if I"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "pivot now, right? Like I think if I were to continue down the path that I have"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "where when you leave I you know I try to be super mom and then"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "it never works out because I am in no way a superm mom. Um, so if I continue down that path and let myself continue"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "to have these explosions randomly where the kids can't predict and they don't understand, um, I think that that type"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "of trauma will be detrimental to them. I don't think it will lead to high performance and success."}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "Um, so then my second question is what would you say to other parents who"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "have also kind of landed on the same conclusion? M you know all the traveling parents, all"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "the temperamental parents, all the tired and exhausted parents who realize that their behavior is"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "having a negative effect on their children. What would you say to them? I think that"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "you have to take I mean the resources you have access to are different for"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "everybody, but I think the first step is the assessment, right? You have to to make an assessment. And you have to to"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "take all the data that you have. So you have to sit down and think about you know what are you like what actions are"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "you taking that are affecting your children and then you have to think about why is that happening right so I"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "know that I just get overwhelmed if I don't have somebody else there to help"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "me I get overwhelmed on my own by the two. So once you have the data, you can start"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "making and you've made the assessment, the initial assessment of, you know, what's happening and why, then you can"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "start thinking about how can I mitigate this? And I think you recently came up with this really amazing idea because"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "you're so good at thinking outside of the box. Um, and I just I had never thought about it before. I was like, I just need to"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "get a nanny. It's fulltime that's 8 to 5 and whatever. And then the other day you were like, \"Maybe you should just get a"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "cook because cooking for the kids really stresses me out.\" Essentially, what I thought of is that"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "we've hired nannies. We've been hiring nannies for our children. Yeah. Since 2019."}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "Yeah. And it hasn't improved your temperament. Right. So then I think the idea I landed on,"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "and I'm a little embarrassed to tell you, is maybe I should just get a nanny for you."}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "Oh, that's not a But that was that was my thought. My thought was the children don't need a"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "nanny. The children need a mom who won't make them feel bad about being"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "kids. Yeah. And you want to be the kind of mom that doesn't make them feel bad about being kids."}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "But the problem is that them being kids drains all of your asset. It drains all"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "of your resources. It drains your energy. It drains your time. I mean, and then it just compounds"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "with all the complexities of being a mom. So, my thought was, what can I do to"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "basically support all the mom stuff that drains you? Yeah. All the cooking, all the cleaning, all"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "the planning, all the organizing, right? The grocery shopping, yada yada. I was like, if I could take that away from you, then theoretically, you still want"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "to be a mom. You just don't want to be a stressed out mom. Yeah. And and you know the when I was a"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "targeter, you know, I think I've talked about, you know, I loved targeting because it was so focused. I could just"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "focus on one thing and go down the rabbit hole and be there for eight hours. With the kids, nothing is"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "focused, especially when you have two. Like there's kind everybody's asking you for something at the same time all the time, all day."}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "Um, and so it's just overwhelm for me. Um but once you"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "once you had this idea like once you voiced this idea of like maybe you should get a cook suddenly it opened up"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "the floodgates of all this alternate solutions that we could do."}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "So I we've thought about like maybe we can get a cook, maybe we can get a tutor,"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "a tutor, maybe we can just have somebody come and you know take the house cleaning off your hands. Maybe I mean I"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "had the thought the other day I was like maybe I should hire somebody a nanny who covers the kids not from 8:00 to 5:00"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "but from 12 to 8 because you know what in the morning we have awesome energy"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "with the kids like I love mornings with the kids. It's but that's that night time that I'm stressed out and I'm tired"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "and I don't have the patience. So, if I had somebody to take them from lunch to brushing their teeth and then I took"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "them the rest of the way, like that would resolve a lot of my stressful hours with them, right? Like there's so"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "many solutions. And I think, you know, at the agency, we do this too where"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "we'll have these brainstorming sessions where you just throw everything up on the board, right? You whiteboard it out."}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "You put everything up there and then you sit back and you then you think, you know, you discuss like what's what can"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "we actually do, right? But just put all that crazy stuff up there because maybe it'll work."}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "Yeah. I mean, a it was CIA that taught me that every good idea starts from a bad idea."}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "Yeah. So, you have to say your bad ideas. Yes. So that other people can take your bad ideas and brainstorm them into good"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "ideas. Yeah. your crazy idea might not be that crazy. Seriously, I mean all kinds how"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "many things how many like operations have gone forward that started from an idea that at first you were like that's"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "nuts, but then you have something there. Something there. Yeah. I mean, and there's been plenty of ideas that have"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "not gone well, too. Yeah. That's why you put on a whiteboard first. Yeah. Exactly."}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "But I think the the thing that's so interesting to me is that you we were"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "talking about how these elite operators from Delta to the Navy Seals to CIA,"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "they are they start they're forged in this fire of hardship."}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "Yes. Right. And and there's a balance in trauma. When we talk about childhood trauma, I want to be clear."}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "There's a very specific area of trauma. Right. So if trauma is on a"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "if you put childhood trauma on a spectrum, right? Here you have no trauma at all"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "and here you have a great deal of trauma, right? Like think about the most horrendous things that happen to a"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "children. Yeah. Right. So from zero to the most horrendous acts ever. Essentially, the"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "childhood trauma band where high performance happens is like just to the"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "just off of the middle, closer to the low trauma side, right? You want CIA is looking for"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "people who had an absentee parent. They're looking for people who had a"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "busy mom or dad who was active in their job or active in their career where the only way that the child would get mom or"}, {"start": "00:33:21", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "dad's attention is by doing something good. Yep. Right. By high performing, the child who"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "followed the rules, the child who who uh became very compliant with the school, the child who won the awards in band and"}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "the awards in track and the like they're not looking for awesome superheroes. They're looking for"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "people who directed their energy. Yeah. Into a very narrow area to win approval"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "from someone else. Win approval from mom, win approval from dad. They're looking for those people who had a parent die or had parents that"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "got divorced or multiple divorces. They I mean we've known friends who had parents who were drug addicts"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "and the kids had to like keep themselves alive and their parents alive"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "still within that band of trauma because those people are like when they"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "become adults there is no end to what they are capable of doing."}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "Yeah. In order to survive and to make like make ends meet. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "On the low end of trauma, you have all the people who never really had to deal with that, right? Mom and dad always loved them."}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "Mom and dad always kind of said nice things to them. Their life was easy. So now as adults, they assume"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "like life is easy. This is just the way it works. This is where I fit into the world. So I don't have to overachieve. I"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "can just minimally achieve and that's the way it works. And then you've got the larger band of people who have had"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "too much trauma. Yeah. Right. so much trauma that they've developed unhealthy coping mechanisms to"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "deal with that trauma or they've they've been like mentally or physically"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "altered. Yeah. In some way. PTSD, uh, you know, some sort of, you know, physical trauma that has"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "brain injuries. Yeah. Yeah. That is in that has made them not neurotypical. Yeah. So, the band of high performance"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "that's tied to childhood trauma is a very narrow band. And there's a ton of people who are in that band. And I think"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "one of the things that's been most fascinating to me is when we come across those people in our lives and in our business"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "because now that we have seen and worked beside elite operators who have become elite"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "because of their childhood trauma. Yeah. And we've seen how they've kind of accepted their trauma for so long. We"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "fight it, right? I remember when I used to complain about my dad beating me with a belt. Yeah. Now I'm kind of like, oh, it's a little"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "up, but I'm kind of glad he beat me with a belt. Like I learned to respect a belt. Yeah. And I also learned that like you have to"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "kind of grin and deal with it sometimes. Like sometimes you just have to bear the pain"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "to get to the other side of the finish line. There are so many people out there who have never been hit by their parents"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "who have no idea what that's like. Well, maybe in the younger generations. I would say in our generation. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "I mean, there's five generations alive right now. Yeah. Right. That's crazy. Yeah. I guess"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "there's always five generations alive, but to be the third oldest generation,"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "in the middle there. Yeah. Yeah. Right. We hire two generations below us. Yeah. The parents who raised us are two"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "generations above us. Like it's nuts to see Yeah. all of it happening right now. But uh"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "but yeah, so that that the idea that childhood trauma is what makes you a high performer"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "and to think that no matter how hard you work to keep trauma away from your children,"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "there is still a benefit to the trauma that gets through because you're not creating soft, weak"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "children unless they are truly like nearly traum. M"}, {"start": "00:36:51", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "so all those parents who work their ass off, all those parents who are building a career, building a business, who feel"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "bad at night or they feel bad in the office about missing bedtime or whatever else. Yes, they are traumatizing their"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "children to a certain extent. Oh, but that trauma is going to make their child so much stronger as an"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "adult. And I think I think studies have been done that that talk about how"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "different people handle the trauma differently, right? There's a spectrum. And so,"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "you know, government agencies in the military have the benefit of"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "being able to choose the strongest, right? Or I don't know if the strongest is the right word, but"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "they can put you through a battery, right, to identify the the optimal combination. Exactly. the people who have the"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:46", "text": "personality, the temperament, the mental grit, whatever you want to call it, that"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "helps them overcome the adversity and the trauma that they've faced in their life, right? Because by the time they get to the government level, they've"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "spent, you know, they're adults. They've spent their life and they have proven that they can do that, right? But when"}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:03", "text": "you're a parent and you're raising kids, you have to keep in mind, too, that your kid might not be that kid, right? Your"}, {"start": "00:38:03", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "kid might not be the kid who's going to make a good, you know, who's going to be a part of the Delta Force, right? like"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "it's just not everybody is that. Um, and so, you know, it's important to, like we"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "were talking about before, be assessing along the way the level and type of adversity that your kids are being"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:27", "text": "exposed to because your kid might be less tolerant, might have, you know,"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "less ability to overcome the same adversity that their sibling can, right?"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "I mean, I hear about the stuff that you've gone through in your life and I think to myself, I don't know that"}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:44", "text": "I would have come out the same way as you did. You know, it's funny because the the reason you said that part of the reason"}, {"start": "00:38:44", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "you married me was because you thought I was going to be this stable, predictable government"}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:55", "text": "Andes I'm like Andy's childhood is kind of messed up, but he's like perfect. Like there's nothing wrong with Andy"}, {"start": "00:38:55", "end": "00:39:01", "text": "for you. For you. I was like he's got no baggage. But when I married you, I was marrying you"}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "because you had this incredibly loving family. Yeah. Like when I met you in your 20s, you're"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:15", "text": "you weren't a kid anymore, right? And not only were you not a kid, you had achieved all the stuff that your mom slapping the table with her wooden spoon"}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "had told you to achieve. I had made it. Yeah. You had made it. You checked all the boxes. Yes, I did."}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "And I was like, \"This woman is amazing and her family is amazing.\" And it wasn't until I then married into your"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "family and became a son in your family that then I started seeing the trauma for myself."}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "Then I started seeing like, oh, this this family is ruled by your mom and like your dad has come to his own"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "relationship with how that dominance works and seeing it, you know, firsthand and feeling it firsthand from our"}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "wedding all the way through to like, you know, how we raise our own kids. Like we're constantly questioned about the choices that we make with our kids, too."}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "Yeah. So it it is really fascinating but uh I want to make sure that we leave time to answer a question. I think we"}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:05", "text": "have a great question for today that came from one of our viewers. One of the comments recently asked us"}, {"start": "00:40:05", "end": "00:40:11", "text": "the question, how do you discipline your children? How do you discipline your own children?"}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:17", "text": "Um and there were some other context in the question, you know, to make sure that it wasn't too much discipline or too little discipline or making sure"}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "that one didn't feel like the other one was getting it easy and the and one was getting it too hard. But I love this"}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:28", "text": "question because thanks to you and thanks to your own experience being"}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "alone with your dog and I I remember some of the sad stories that you've told me about owning a dog when you were alone and single."}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "Mhm. You were very focused on this question of having a discipline strategy for the"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "kids long before we even had kids. Yeah. So I kind of want to kick it to you. How do in your own words, how do we"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "discipline our kids? So before I before we had kids and when we"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:57", "text": "were pregnant with our first, we read a lot of books because I was I definitely wanted to have I wanted us to be on the"}, {"start": "00:40:57", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "same page and I didn't want you know I what happens is when when people are"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:07", "text": "under stress they revert to what they know what what they know what they're familiar with"}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:12", "text": "is what their parents did to them. Exactly. And neither one of us wanted to do that. And so we read a bunch of books"}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:18", "text": "and you know and decided on a strategy together. And so, um, the way that we discipline our kids really is kind of"}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "through hugs. It's a great way of describing it. Um, so there are, um, so we do, you"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "know, like raise our voice sometimes like sternly and say, you know, you"}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:38", "text": "know, don't do that or stop doing that or whatever like in the moment if we Yeah, I Yeah, I try not to raise my voice"}, {"start": "00:41:38", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "because if I raise my voice at all, then it might turn into a yell. So you Yeah. So, you do a good job of like raising"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:51", "text": "your voice to a to a level that gets their attention. Um, I generally try to"}, {"start": "00:41:51", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "get close to them so they can hear me and I get their attention by putting my hand on their arm or by, you know,"}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:03", "text": "making sure they're making eye contact with me when I'm speaking to them. But then it flows into a physical contact"}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:11", "text": "like touching their hand, touching their arm, their shoulder, even holding them and then talking about whatever it is."}, {"start": "00:42:11", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "Right? So you're talking in a what you're describing is loving touches. Yes."}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "And I want to make sure that it's clear because sometimes I feel like you talk and it's not very clear. Okay. Please. I mean that's why I"}, {"start": "00:42:22", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "married you. You're my you're my translator. But I mean what we practice is something that came from a book called"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:36", "text": "unconditional parenting. And it's the idea that at all times through any disciplinary effort we apply"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:42", "text": "we need to make sure the kids understand that they are loved unconditionally. Right? So, we never want to discipline"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "them in a way that makes them feel like we are taking our love away because they did something bad,"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:54", "text": "right? Instead, we're trying to always engage them. I love that word that you used earlier. We're trying to always engage"}, {"start": "00:42:54", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "them in a loving way to have a discussion. Yeah. About the choices that they made, right?"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "And we have that benefit because our kids are homeschooled kids and they stay with us and they're around us all the time, right? So I I have always loved the fact"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:15", "text": "that somehow you are able to do that and just get in close and you always"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "know when to when to hold them, when to hold their hand, when to touch their shoulder, when to have them sit in your lap and you'll just sit there with them"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "and you'll let them cry and you'll let them scream and you'll let them do whatever they want to do"}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "until they calm down and then they can have a meaningful conversation with you. Well, and then for me, you're right, I use a"}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "stern voice to interrupt them. Yeah. And a part of the reason I do that is to interrupt their thought process because they spiral,"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "right? Children spiral just like you spiral. That's exactly. And sometimes all it takes is a a voice"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:51", "text": "that's just louder than normal, but not loud enough to be an attack to just get them to stop the spiral for"}, {"start": "00:43:51", "end": "00:43:58", "text": "just a second. Right. A cognitive interrupt. Yeah. So that you can then give them express instructions. Tell me what happened."}, {"start": "00:43:58", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "Tell me how you're feeling. Tell me why you made that choice. Yeah. Always with an eye towards making sure"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:11", "text": "they feel and accept the love in that we have for them despite whatever error they may have"}, {"start": "00:44:11", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "made. Yep. And the other book I read that I found really helpful was The Whole Brain Child. Um, and I use a lot of I've"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "actually read a number of books by that same author. Um, and part of what's been"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "helpful is it's helped me understand my I my own brain and because I also have really big emotions. Um, and so"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "sometimes the verbal doesn't come right away. So, you know, I've found with the kids like"}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:43", "text": "when they are emotionally hijacked, they're you're not going to be able to ask them what's wrong. you just you have to wait for them to calm down, which is"}, {"start": "00:44:43", "end": "00:44:49", "text": "why we just hug and we hold each other and they just calm down or we'll sing a song or just something to get everything"}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "to calm down because I'm exactly the same way, you know, and I would say just"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "because, you know, we've talked about it um you know, in this last hour um that"}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "when I yell at the kids, I am not disciplining them. My yelling at the kids is is in no way, shape, or form me"}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:14", "text": "attempting to discipline them. Me yelling at the kids is me losing my temper. Yeah. Right. It is it is not the"}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "right thing to do and it is very counterproductive because then I end up spending the rest of the night or the"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "rest of, you know, the next two hours walking that back, right? Reconnecting"}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:34", "text": "with them, apologizing, you know, talking about what happened and why I exploded, right? So, um"}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:39", "text": "that's all the stuff we wish our parents would have done to us. Yes. There is so much value in"}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:45", "text": "apologizing to your children. So true. So much value. I make mistakes all the time and I and I"}, {"start": "00:45:45", "end": "00:45:51", "text": "tell them, \"I'm sorry. I shouldn't have done this. I shouldn't have said this. This is what's happening in my life. This is what's happening"}, {"start": "00:45:51", "end": "00:45:56", "text": "with the business. This is what's happening with mommy. This is what's happening with me. My stomach doesn't feel good. My head doesn't feel good."}, {"start": "00:45:56", "end": "00:46:02", "text": "And I yelled at you and I shouldn't have. Or, you know, I got lazy and I made a bad dinner.\" Whatever it might"}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:07", "text": "be. Telling them what's really happening has been incredibly valuable. Yes."}, {"start": "00:46:07", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "So, one of the things that CIA taught us is that all adults are really just large"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:23", "text": "children, right? Like adults behave just like children with 30 years of experience,"}, {"start": "00:46:23", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "but we're still children on the inside. And if you can understand the child"}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:34", "text": "inside each adult, you can essentially control the adult."}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "Yeah. And that's what's become kind of a superpower for us in our professional lives, in our personal lives, and even"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:46", "text": "in our relationship with each other. Because when I talk to you, I understand I'm not talking to"}, {"start": "00:46:46", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "43-year-old Ji. I'm talking to like 9year-old Jihi. And I know that when you talk to me, you"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:47:01", "text": "understand. You're talking to like a 9-year-old version of me. Yeah. Who needs a hug? Who just a hug fixes so many things."}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:08", "text": "It's so true. Yeah. So when we talk to our children and when we discipline our children,"}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:13", "text": "so much of that is tied to the fact that we understand who we are talking to right now. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:47:13", "end": "00:47:19", "text": "Is the 25year-old adult, is the 45year-old mother or father, is the"}, {"start": "00:47:19", "end": "00:47:25", "text": "70-year-old grandfather or grandmother. They are who they will always be."}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:31", "text": "And we are shaping their future with every minute that we interact with them. And I think that's why we try to"}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "discipline them through a lens of love because we know what it's like to be disciplined without"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:44", "text": "that love. Always wondering if you did something so bad that your"}, {"start": "00:47:44", "end": "00:47:50", "text": "parents don't love you anymore. Yeah. And I think patience is a lot has a lot to do with it as well, right? Like"}, {"start": "00:47:50", "end": "00:47:55", "text": "when we talk about disciplining, it's not like we give our children a hug and then they don't do it again, right? I"}, {"start": "00:47:55", "end": "00:48:02", "text": "mean, you just you have to understand that they will do it again, right? Well, I do things over and over again that I"}, {"start": "00:48:02", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "should, right? Um, so, you know, you just have to be patient with them and"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:14", "text": "understand that it's going to happen again. You're going to have to have the same conversation again. Like, they really didn't mean to spill the milk. I"}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:19", "text": "promise you, you know, it's it's okay, right? So, folks, thank you so much for joining"}, {"start": "00:48:19", "end": "00:48:26", "text": "us today. We had a great conversation. I don't think we intended for it to go in this direction at all. We we just kind of we found ourselves"}, {"start": "00:48:26", "end": "00:48:31", "text": "honestly talking about what childhood was like for us and what childhood is like for our kids. And we hope that you"}, {"start": "00:48:31", "end": "00:48:37", "text": "found value in that. Uh please leave your comments below, especially if you have any thoughts at all as to how you"}, {"start": "00:48:37", "end": "00:48:43", "text": "were raised, how you wish you were raised, or how you raise your own children. Leave your comments below. Let us know what you do. What do you do"}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:50", "text": "right? What do you feel like you do wrong? Did anything we mentioned today resonate with you specifically? And for"}, {"start": "00:48:50", "end": "00:48:56", "text": "those of you out there who know you have had childhood trauma, who recognize that you have had just that right amount of"}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:49:02", "text": "trauma to be a high performer, I want to encourage you to see that as a superpower. Like see that as a benefit"}, {"start": "00:49:02", "end": "00:49:09", "text": "for yourself, not as some kind of, you know, hibity bibbidity life coaching"}, {"start": "00:49:09", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "betterment. Like no, it's because there are literally people who will never try as hard as you. And then there are"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:20", "text": "people who are mentally incapable of achieving what you achieve. So, if you yourself are a high performer, I want"}, {"start": "00:49:20", "end": "00:49:27", "text": "you to know that you have found the right place to be here with us here at Everyday Spy as part of the spy tribe."}, {"start": "00:49:27", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "So, leave your comments below, leave your thoughts below, leave your questions for us below, and then of course, if you want to learn more about"}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:37", "text": "how to turn your childhood trauma into something that's super powerful, make sure you click on the links in the"}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:43", "text": "description, come visit us at our homepage, come take our spy quiz, come be part of the spy tribe, and unlock"}, {"start": "00:49:43", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "those superpower abilities that you have that you may not even realize that you have. And with that, I guess we'll save"}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "our next conversation for the next day. See you soon."}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "[Applause]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Was 911 an inside job?"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "911 was not an inside job. I completely"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "understand why that conspiracy exists."}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "The reason 911 happened goes back to"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "what you've already said is true about"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "government. It is a show. Government is"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "innately inefficient. Government is most"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "people that work for government are not"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "competent to be working for the"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "government. That's why they're there. If"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "they were competent, they'd be making"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "more money doing something else. The"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "vast majority of them did everything"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "they could to get a government job and"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "now stop doing anything that might"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "compromise or risk their government job."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "So they do exactly what they're told."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "They live in a very small, very safe box"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "for 30 years so that they can collect a"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "50% pension when they're 65 years old."}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "All 911 was was CIA and FBI not speaking"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "the same language, not talking to each"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "other, even when they had corroborated"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "valuable intelligence that that the 9/11"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "commission in 2003 concluded would have"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "prevented 9/11 from happening and they"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "just didn't talk to each other. They"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "were so bad at talking to each other"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "that we had to create the director of"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "national intelligence. The DNI didn't"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "get created until after 911 because of"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "the the 911 commission in 2003. We if"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "for those of us who have a little bit of"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "gray in our beard, we remember a time"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "before TSA."}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "Oh yeah,"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "we"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "people could walk you up to the gate."}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "People could meet you right after you"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "walked out of the plane."}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "It was crazy, right? And and that was"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "the world that we lived in. So what"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "we've got now, we've forgotten how"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "different we were then. And"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "pre 911 CIA, pre 911 FBI, pre 911"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "intelligence community, I see was"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "completely different than it is now."}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "It's just I can explain to you the"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "anatomy of a conspiracy and why people"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "want to hear the conspiracy, but the"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "point is we're just too embarrassed to"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "admit that we're just incompetent. It's"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "so much easier to digest if we believe"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "somebody fooled us."}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "I think it's because we grow up thinking"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "that government officials have"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "authority. They're intelligent. They"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "know things. They have a badge. They"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "have a moniker. They have a thing. And"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "oh my gosh, they're wearing a suit and"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "we should be a we they should be"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "revered. And then we get older and we"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "go, we want to believe the thing that we"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "have always believed, which is they know"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "what they're doing."}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "They're running our freaking country."}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "And I there's a great quote. I can't"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "remember it. The quote was never chalk"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "something up to being nefarious if it"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "really comes down to just being"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "incompetent."}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "Absolutely. So you're you're talking"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "about a razor, an analytical razor, and"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "that razor is an addage or a truth. And"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "the truth is never subscribe to"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "conspiracy, that which can be explained"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "with incompetence."}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "That's the quote."}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "Yep. And that's a that is a that is just"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "like AAM's razor, which is another"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "analytical foundation that says that the"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "simplest solution is often the most"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "correct, which again goes right back to"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "what happened on 911. some fantastical"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "um conspiracy that's still kept secret"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "or people just up and bad things"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "happened."}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "Okay. What about um Epstein? What do you"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "think about that?"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "The Epstein thing is really interesting."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "So, I understand where people are coming"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "from thinking that he was an asset. What"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "I think might be off is what kind of"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "asset people think he was. We're we're"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "so hooked on this idea that he was a CIA"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "asset or a MSAD asset because we heard"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "from spokespeople in government that he"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "had an intelligence connection. We're"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "completely forgetting about the fact"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "that FBI also has assets. And FBI assets"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "can actually be protected from"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "uh from trial if they cooperate with the"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "FBI. And how did Epstein make his money?"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "How did how did he have the connections"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "he had? through criminal endeavors with"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "super wealthy people offshore. He's"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "exactly the kind of person that FBI"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "would want to bring on as what's known"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "as a CI or a covert informant,"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "clandestine informant. He's exactly the"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "kind of American citizen that FBI would"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "say, \"If you cooperate with us, we'll"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "grant you amnesty in the court for any"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "criminal activity that you do on behalf"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "of supporting our operation.\" So now"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "that would basically tell him either"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "cooperate or go to jail right now for"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "all the charges that we already know"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "you're guilty of. It would be an easy"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "solution for him and it would be the"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "kind of solution that would make it so"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "that when his files were reviewed later"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "on by the Trump administration, they"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "understand that there's a contract"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "between him and the government and they"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "can't compromise. can't release it"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "because if they release that, they're"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "basically telling every confidential"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "informant everywhere from now until the"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "end of time. Your agreement with us is"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "not going to be honored."}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "Why Why the hell do people not say that"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "out loud? That is so That makes so much"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "logical sense."}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "Yes, it's KISS. It's keep it simple."}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "It's AAM's razor. Now, what they're"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "doing is they're teasing us with like"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "I'm not really into the Epstein stuff. I"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "really don't care for it. I think it's"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "some I think it politically Democrats,"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "Republicans are using this piece of"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "information that they know probably can"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "never be shared."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "Yep."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "And they're using it against each other"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "just going, \"Let's see who can play with"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "this ball better than the other one.\""}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "And you know, Trump right now is like, I"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "don't know why you guys are so obsessed"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "with this this Epstein thing. And"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "Democrats use it because they're like,"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "\"Holy crap, Trump is doing all this"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "stuff. We got to slow this freaking guy"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "down.\" And they're using something they"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "know can never be shared. according to"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "what you're saying makes so much logical"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "sense because if the FBI has these"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "files, maybe they exist, maybe who knows"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "if they even exist, and you release"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "those things, all of the other CIA, CIS"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "are going to go, I'm never going to work"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "with you. I'm going to stop giving you"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "all the information because I know it's"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "going to be shared with everybody in the"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "world, but the FBI can now show other"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "CIS. See how we will never under no"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "circumstances release this."}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "Exactly. Right."}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "Makes so much sense."}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "You were thinking exactly like an"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "intelligence. What what about him"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "killing himself? Did he kill himself?"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "Was he murdered?"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "And that's what's so fascinating. So,"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "because of the kind of crimes that he"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "was engaged in, it puts him on like the"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "fast track to violent crime inside a"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "prison, molestation, sex trafficking of"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "children. When you're when you hurt"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "children, criminals, do not look kindly"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "on that. So, it's"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "it's a it's a it's an instance where we"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "have two very simple solutions. Simple"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "solution number one is he really was"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "killed in prison and that the culture of"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "prison was such that they're going to"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "cover each other's backs because the guy"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "got what was coming to him."}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "Simultaneously"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "the fact that footage is missing and he"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "was he could have been a confidential"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "informant. He's prime time for someone"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "to xfill him,"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "a a formal federal government official"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "to trump every rule of the prison to go"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "in and show a badge and be like, \"He's"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "coming with us and you're killing you're"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "killing the recording.\" Again, another"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "simple, clear legal solution. So, here"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "we have two competing hypotheses that"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "both fit our razors for analytical"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "consideration."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "So, we'll never know."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "We'll never know. If we ever do know,"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "it's going to get us closer to"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "understanding whether or not he was"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "truly a confidential informant for an"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "internal law enforcement agency."}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "It would make sense that he was. It"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "would just make so much sense that he he"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "was um a CI for our own internal side."}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "and for those people looking for"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "justice, if he wasn't killed in prison,"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "if he was exfiled and he is under"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "witness protection, his life is not what"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "it was before because witness protection"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "is not a lavish life. witness"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "protection, people who become uh"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "informants against their country and and"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "x-filled to the United States or like"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "like uh Edward Snowden who exfilled to"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "Russia. You're only kept in a con a"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "comfortable lifestyle for 3 to seven"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "years and your comfort is not wealth."}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "Your comfort is just solid lower middle"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "class comfort. You have air"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "conditioning, you can afford to buy"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "groceries. After that, your utility as a"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "source decreases and you kind of have to"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "go find your own job and make a living"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "for yourself. So justice is coming to"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "that guy one way or the other. Even if"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "we are protecting him because of our"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "obligation to have him as a CI, he's not"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "living high on the horn."}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "Yeah. He was living like a billionaire"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "and doing all these crazy things all the"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "time and living the, you know, the life"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "and now he's living in a shed somewhere"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "in freaking Nantucket."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "Yeah. Now he's got aing prefab that he's"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "living in, sweating his tail off and"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "he's not making any money and he doesn't"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "have access to a savings account."}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "CIA believes that all people are born"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "with a spy secret superpower. For some"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "people, that means they can win deals."}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "For others, they can spot liars. Some"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "can even seduce lovers. I built a free"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "threeinut test to help reveal to you"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "exactly what your secret hidden"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "superpower is. All you have to do is"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "click on the link in the description"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "below, take the test, and start using"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "your spy superpower to stay ahead of 99%"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "of people."}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "And he can't obviously have extravagant"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "things or else it would bring limelight"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "to where he's at, what he's doing, etc."}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "And they're not going to let that"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "happen."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "Exactly. He's cut off from his network."}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "He's closely watched. And"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "did they did they actually show his body"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "after he was killed?"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "I don't think they've ever shown a body."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "I don't think they've ever shown a body."}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "I don't think they've ever shown any"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "footage of of"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "what was captured to show that the body"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "was even deceased."}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "Interesting."}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "I think it's a it's a full break in"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "anything visual."}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "Okay. So, how do you feel Trump has done"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "in this first presidenc or this second"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "presidency?"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "He's taking risks. Donald Trump is"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "acting like a business owner."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "Yeah. And I think for us business"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "owners, we understand it. We see it."}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "There's a part of us that appreciates"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "it, but there's also a part of us that"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "recognizes these are risks. The moving"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "on the tariffs, the tariffs were a"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "brilliant idea because it's just the"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "five principles of of sales or the five"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "principles of economics that he was"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "controlling. He knew that we controlled"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "the largest market with the highest uh"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "expensing sales or I'm sorry uh buying"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "force in the world. And if we want to"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "increase tariffs, we can."}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "We have the leverage."}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "We have the leverage. You're you're"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "going to keep selling to us and you're"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "going to pay more to keep selling to us"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "because you want access to us. That's a"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "good move in the short term, but we"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "don't know what that's going to be in"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "the long term. And you see it now"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "playing out as people wonder about Fed"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "and interest rates and Treasury and"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "inflation because we all understand we"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "did this. We've never done it before. We"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "did it at scale. It had foreign policy"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "implications as well as financial"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "implications, but we don't know what's"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "going to happen next. And that's kind of"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "the the theme with Donald Trump is he's"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "taking aggressive, risky action. We"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "don't know if it's going to play out or"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "not. Do you feel like he's really like"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "why the hell would anybody want to be a"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "president? I think you're a lunatic to a"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "certain degree."}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "I was I wasn't built for that. I don't"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "know that you were built for that or"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "have the motivation to do that. I think"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "you have to be a very specific type of"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "person. that do you think somebody like"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "Donald Trump wants to be president"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "because he understands the game and he"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "goes this is the place I can be the most"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "powerful business owner in the world and"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "I can control more essentially creating"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "his new shed saying more protection more"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "safety more leverage more relationships"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "more control more this that and the"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "other is it just a power grab or is he"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "actually motivated do you think to"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "actually change the world"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "I would say it's a it's a mix of both"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "and I'm saying that with cautious"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "optimism But the vast majority of why"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "Donald Trump is president is because"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "it's a power grab. It's it's a huge win."}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "And then just like I mean for everybody"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "who didn't listen as you rattled those"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "things off, let's review some of those."}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "Think about the network he has. Think"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "about the name recognition he has. Think"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "about the leverage he has. Think about"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "the security he has. Right now, I'm not"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "talking about like uh Secret Service."}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "I'm talking about the security of all"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "the amnesty that comes with being a"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "former president. The dude is"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "he is a box jumper and he creates his"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "own boxes everywhere he goes. Sometimes"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "he created those boxes by making great"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "real estate investments. Sometimes he"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "created those boxes by by abusing the"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "legal system. Sometimes he used coercion"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "and force to force other people to do"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "his bidding. And other times he used"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "charm and and and manipulation to get"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "what he wanted. He constantly is box"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "jumping and that's what makes people"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "hate him is they they can't define him."}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "What makes people love him is they can't"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "define him. So one way or the other he"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "is in the role. You have to respect the"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "office of the president because like you"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "said who wants that job? I don't want"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "that job."}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "Hell no."}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "But he's there. He's doing it. He's he's"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "done something unprecedented by being a"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "president and then not being a president"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "and then being a president again. Like"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "that is crazy."}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "Bonkers."}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "Bonkers, man. That is that is something"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "that will go down in history forever."}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "And the name Trump, the legacy is secure"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "whether or not we think he does a good"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "job or a bad job."}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "I think he cares about his kids a a"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "tremendous amount. Same as you and same"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "as I do. And I think a lot of your"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "activities, my activities on a daily"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "basis are creating boxes for our"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "children to jump into."}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "And if you are the president, you can"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "set up crazy good deals for your kids,"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "right? your kids are now doing foreign"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "affairs and they're over here and"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "they're setting up real estate deals in"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "a management thing over here and they're"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "running a this that and the other."}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "They're his kids are basically"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "saturating the whole entire world"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "because of these relationships and these"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "doors and people will go I want to be"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "around Trump and I want to have his"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "favor. So if I have to do something for"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "his daughter or his this or his that I"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "mean he's setting up his kids for he"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "they're already set up for life but he's"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "basically making it a permanent solution"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "for his kids to be safe for their whole"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "life and his grandkids which is awesome"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "too. One thing I I I really like about"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "your philosophy too is that you believe"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "that life isn't fair and that once you"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "understand life isn't fair and that you"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "can play the game. People are pissed off"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "that it's not fair but they can wake up"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "and realize like oh I can play a game"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "too. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "What I like about Trump is he's doesn't"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "play a fair game. No,"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "he gives permission to guys like you and"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "me that if I understand the rules of the"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "game, I can go play that same exact"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "game, fair or not fair."}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "People that don't love the not fair"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "world, what would you have to say to"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "them? Like, oh yeah, okay, keep"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "complaining, keep doing your thing, or"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "you can just play the game the same as"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "us."}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "So, we we were talking about how our"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "government built us and how the"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "revolutionary uh forefathers built us,"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "right? And we have to understand that"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "when the country was built, not"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "everybody was equal. If you weren't a"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "land a landowning male, you didn't have"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "a say. And I'm not saying that that was"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "a good thing. But I am saying think"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "about what that meant. What that meant"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "was our forefathers were trying to lay a"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "foundation where if you didn't have a"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "vested interest in the country, you"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "didn't count. There are lots of people"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "who don't have a vested interest in the"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "country. They don't even have a vested"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "interest in the company that they work"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "for. At best, they have a vested"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "interest in the 401k that reaches"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "maturity in seven years,"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "but they're not trying to own land."}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "They're not trying to build business."}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "They're not trying to build value."}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "They're just trying to survive or"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "they're trying to enjoy the ride. Right?"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "Our country was never built for them."}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "Whether we like to admit it or not, it"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "was never built for them. That is also"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "the same group that likes to talk about"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "how unfair things are. How unfair it is"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "that corporate executives make millions"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "of dollars a year. How unfair it is that"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "people can increase their prices or that"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "the the coffee shop down the street can"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "close down their can close their door at"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "2 p.m. when Google Map says it's"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "supposed to be open till 4. Right? They"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "all complain about how unfair and and"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "wrong things are, not realizing that"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "their whole opinion about what's unfair"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "and wrong is based on something that was"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "never part of our foundation. Our"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "country"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "I love this explanation so much."}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "Our country was built for people to be"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "in control of what they care about,"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "whether it's their kids. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "Or whether it's their business."}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "understanding that at times it's the"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "planting season and at times the"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "weather's going to keep you from"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "planting."}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "It's like walking into a McDonald's and"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "being pissed off that not everything's"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "made out of tofu. It's like that's not"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "what it was built for. What you what are"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "you even in here complaining about?"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "Okay, cool. So, it kind of gives an"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "explanation to those people. It's the"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "same thing with the people that will say"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "that you let's say you're a scam artist"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "because you're a sham or you're a"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "government plant or you're X Y and Z"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "that you know they go peppering comments"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "and stuff like that because they don't"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "like the things that you're teaching."}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "those people are. I don't know that"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "they're ready to learn. I don't know"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "that they ever really want it. And it"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "seems like maybe the system was just not"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "built for those people."}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "It wasn't. And and the system has a"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "place for those people, but nobody wants"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "to hear what that place is. Because"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "guess what? Every landowning male had to"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "have"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "workers. And what did those workers do?"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "They worked at the farm. They worked the"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "plants. And when they got too old, they"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "were kicked out of the farm and their"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "salary was cut off. and a young person"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "was brought in and when they complained"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "too much, they lost their job and"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "somebody else was brought in. And when"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "somebody came in at a cheaper rate"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "because the economy changed and you"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "could get work for cheaper, then the"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "expensive person was cut and the cheaper"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "person was brought in. That's how the"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "system works. We can complain about it."}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "We can be angry at it. We can say it's"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "unfair. We weren't built to be a fair"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "country. We were built to be a superior"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "democracy based on representation and"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "economies of scale, which by default"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "wasn't fair. We won the American"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "Revolution by not fighting fair. We went"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "into World War II and won World War II"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "by not fighting fair. We manipulate our"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "currency. We keep our stocks high. How?"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "By not being fair."}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "Right?"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "If we were fair, we would lose all of"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "our competitive advantage. So, why do"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "you think that you should be paid fairly"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "based on what you think you're worth?"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "You want to be paid more. Show the"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "person who's paying you that you are"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "worth more."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "And this is something CIA taught us too that human beings need to feel"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "connection. And I think it's important because what we were taught is that people need to feel connected. We were"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "never taught that people actually need to connect. So a big part of what a case officer's job is is to actually simulate"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "the feeling of connection. And if you can control someone else's experience, if they can feel like they are"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "connecting to you, even though you yourself are protecting themselves, separating yourself, not actually connecting to the other person, that"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "feels very genuine and that feels very authentic and intimate and powerful."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "It's been three weeks since I've been home. Yeah, it's been a long time. And then I was I"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "was only home for 2 days. Yeah. Prior to that. And then it was another 3"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "weeks that I was gone. And even this time I'm only home for like 6 days before I leave. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "And it's the holidays, man. Like this is We are Happy Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "We had a fantastic Thanksgiving dinner yesterday. Thanksgiving lunch that I made which was soup."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "I'll take it. Anything that you cooked I would have eaten"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "except salmon. I think that was the wor we did that last Thanksgiving Thanksgiving salmon was the year before"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "and I had regrets. So, but what I'm what uh what I am struck by"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "is that you know these long stretches that I'm gone because I'm filming with History Channel. Mhm. These long stretches that I'm gone,"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "they get harder each time. That's interesting. The first time that I filmed this time"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "away from you guys. Yeah. Right. Was last year. And I basically spent what was it? I was on the road for"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "like 26 days home for 2 weeks and then on the road for like 60 or 70"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "days after that. Yeah. So in those two stretches, they were long stretches. Yeah. But like I didn't feel the compounding"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "absence of my family. Well, what I'm feeling this time is every time I'm gone, I'm not gone long enough to cross"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "the threshold into basically like being a bachelor again. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "But I'm also not home long enough to cross the threshold into feeling connected and in tune with the family."}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "That's really interesting. So, I'm always in this weird transition zone where I'm like, I miss my family and I'm not a and I"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "don't have the freedom of being single on the road. Yeah. or I'm at home and I'm just making"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "a mess out of everything at home, screwing up your schedule and the kids schedule and I don't know where stuff is in the kitchen anymore and like it's"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "just I'm always out of place and it makes me feel for all the people out there who make a career out of travel."}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "Yeah. My mom spent many years traveling. She spent 12 years traveling 5 days a week"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "when I went off to college. Yeah. And I mean, she's just one example. You got sales people who travel, executives"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "who travel, you got, you know, media people who travel. Like this a very real thing. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "That many people make a living out of being gone. Yeah. And then this time while you were"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "gone, we have a friend whose husband's a submariner. And for all the feeling for"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "sorry for myself that I do, um she called me because uh one of her children"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "was really sick and her husband was on a sub completely out of touch. Like she"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "had no way to tell him that the son was sick. She had no way to communicate with him to say that she needed help or to"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "even update. Um, and I thought, \"Oh my gosh, how lucky am I that even when you are in the most remote parts of, you"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "know, the western United States, I can at least s, you know, usually get enough of a signal to touch base, have a sign"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "of life, give you a little update.\" Yeah. Right. So, for us, this time has actually been, I think, a little bit"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "easier because I knew what to expect. Uh, last time I was super depressed when you were gone, but this time I had I had"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "a better plan in place. I was like, \"All right, Andy's gonna be gone. I know what it looks like now and so I have better coping mechanisms."}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "Uh we had talked about already when you come home I think um you know"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "we had discussed before you left this time that when you come home you don't change anything."}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "So everything, you know, we make space and time that's special to to do on you"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "because we want to have that connection time with you for the short periods of time that you're home. But otherwise,"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "you don't get to come home and be like, \"Why is it this way?\" No, no, no. You don't get to ask any of those questions"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "until you're fully back. It's fair. It's fair. But uh and and one of the reasons that it's so interesting"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "to me is because what I'm realizing is that the feelings that I'm having on the road are not just mine. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "the other folks in the crew with me, the camera operators, the sound people, the"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "production people, everybody's feeling the difference between last season and this season. We're all feeling that absence."}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "Yeah. That grind of like, I don't really fit here, but I also don't fit at home."}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "Yeah. So, I think what's happening is everybody's feeling a little bit lonely."}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "Yeah. Even though we're all together, right? So, there's 16 people on the TV crew,"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "five camera operators, two drone pilots, four five production people, one sound"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "person, uh, two cast. I don't even know what all that adds up to yet. Yeah. But, and then some other people that I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "sure I'm not counting for appropriately because I don't speak TV. I just But but my point is,"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "you've got 16 people traveling and living as a pod. Yeah. Everywhere we go, working 12-hour days"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "together, six days a week. Yeah, we should not feel lonely. Yeah. And yet, I'm almost certain that we do."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "Do you think that it's different this time because you have shorter stints of time together and that is it arguably"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "better to have longer stretches? I don't know if better or worse is the word I would use. I think what's so"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "fascinating to me isn't that I mean, of course, it sucks when people feel bad"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "and I don't like feeling lonely. Yeah. But the twisted part of my brain is like, \"This is such a cool social"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "experiment.\" Because we're we're all over the place. Yeah. Forced together."}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "Yeah. We didn't choose to be together. We were brought together based on a mix of availability and cost structure and"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "skill sets. And now all of a sudden, boom, here we are. Go make a TV show. And there are people who don't get along on the set. And there are people who do"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "get along on the set. And there's people who pretend to get along on the set. But what's fascinating is seeing how our"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "social norms adapt or refuse to adapt when we're all"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "put together. And then you layer on to that the fact that this is the holiday season. Yeah. And it's like Thanksgiving travel and"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "Christmas travel and the weather is getting horrible. Yeah. Like it's getting colder. It's getting"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "snowier. It's I mean it just becomes harder and harder to be out in the field shooting a show"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "outdoors. And we've all been through this before because we did it for the first season. And the first season was"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "such a slog. Yeah. I kind of don't know what any of us, me, me included, I don't know what any of us"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "were thinking when we said yes to doing this for a second season. Yeah. But the social element of it is what's"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "so fascinating to me. How how is it a good rhetorical question, but also one that I'd love for us to explore. How do"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "16 people feel alone when they're all together? all the time."}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "Yeah. How can we feel so isolated when in fact we are inundated"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "with people? Because you're not there to connect with each other. You're there to do a job,"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "right? So it's not like you spend, you know, 12 hours sitting around the campfire learning about each other's"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "families and history, you know, and connecting on the things that make you, you know, human beings. I mean, you're"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "working the whole time. I mean, it's a grind from from what it sounds like, you know, tons of work."}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "CIA believes that all people are born with a spy secret superpower. For some"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "people, that means they can win deals. For others, they can spot liars. Some can even seduce lovers. I built a free"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "3inut test to help reveal to you exactly what your secret hidden superpower is."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "All you have to do is click on the link in the description below, take the test, and start using your spy superpower to"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "stay ahead of 99% of people. Different hours of the day. Sometimes you guys start at 6:00 a.m. Sometimes"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "you guys start at 1:00 and then end at 1:00. Um, you know, it's it's I don't it"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "must be difficult because you're constantly being pushed. It's like it makes me think of when you have two"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "working parents in the home and the kids go to school and the grind of the week"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "where the kids and the parents don't see each other. Especially if you have parents who work different shifts. My"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "mom used to work a night shift and my dad worked a day shift um when I was growing up and so they would, you know,"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "high-five each other, you know, when one came home from work and the other one left. And you know, that kind of grind"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "doesn't lend itself to human connection. And so you can be living in the same house with these people and feel pretty"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "isolated, feel pretty alone. I mean, there's nobody to talk to because everybody's busy doing something else."}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "There isn't that downtime with the intent of just connecting. And this is something CIA taught us,"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "too, that human beings need to feel Yeah. connection. And I and I think it's"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "important because what we were taught is that people need to feel connected. Yeah. We were never taught that people"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "actually need to connect, right? So, a big part of what a case officer's job is"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "is to actually simulate the feeling of connection. Yeah. Because what people need is to feel like"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "they have connected. They don't actually need to successfully truly authentically be"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "connected. And if you can control someone else's experience, if they can feel like they are"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "connecting to you, even though you yourself are protecting yourself, separating yourself and not actually connecting"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "right to the other person, that feels very genuine and that feels very"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "uh uh authentic and intimate and"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "powerful. Yeah. Because they feel like you are connecting. Yeah. And it's really interesting because I I"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "do think you're right. I do think that what's happening is on, you know, in the group that I'm traveling with, we are"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "not connecting. And part of it is we're not connecting because we don't have the time and the"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "space. Like last year when you're 75 days on the road, you have to connect."}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "Yeah. Like time breaks you down and eventually somebody gets sick, gets hurt,"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "right? Has something a something happens at home and they need support like something happens. We can all be strong"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "for 14 or 15 days and basically pretend that we don't need anybody. We can all do that. But come"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "like 25 days, 50 days, it's much harder to pretend to be an island of your, you know, in"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "and of yourself. But my point is that we're not trying to connect. where"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "at CIA every operation, every time you were with a target,"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "every time you were with a partner, every time you were with a liaison service, every time you were in any kind of operational role."}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "Yeah. You always turned it on. Yeah. And the thing that you would turn on is that simulated connection. Make other"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "people feel like they are connected to you. Yeah. And I think what becomes challenging at the CIA is that it it's a"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "little bit blurry because sometimes it is a purely simulated connection, but"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "it's really easy for that to become a real connection, right? And then that creates security risks and"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "you have to be careful. Um, and then you're walking around the agency looking"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "at your peers because you know everybody's turning it on. We're just trained to do it. So then there's a"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "little part of you that's wondering how much of this connection is authentic. Right. Right. And how much with my peers, how"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "much of it is authentic and how much is because they know that I'm on my way up and they want me to swoop them up with"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "me, you know? Um so yeah, I think it it is very it's an interesting scenario"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "there because we know that everybody's trained to do this thing. Um, but it"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "does remind me we or like about a week ago before you came home, we were"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "already we're already looking at your travel schedule for next year. Yep."}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "We were we had just gotten off the phone and we're had just kind of penciled in like this this is what it might look"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "like next year. And I literally thought to myself, I was like, I'm just gonna"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "move to Japan with the kids while you're doing this thing that you might be doing. And uh I'm going to rent a"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "friend. And you know, I'm like I grew up in Japan, so it's a comfortable, it's not like a completely foreign place to"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "me. So I'm like, you know, we're going to I'm going to learn Japanese. We're going to move there. I'm going to just start renting a friend because there's"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "this service in Japan. um because it's a historically kind of closed stoic"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "society where you can pay somebody to come and you know it can be used for lots of"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "things. Sometimes people you know have a like I need you to pretend to be my boyfriend and meet my parents. I need you to be my date to a wedding. I need"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "you to pretend to be my mom at my wedding because I'm estranged from my family."}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "But it's also I need you to just listen come hang out with me at a coffee shop"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "so I can talk. I have somebody to talk to. Um, that is so funny. So, that's actually a"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "phenomenon in the United States now, too. That's in the US, that's in Canada, I'm pretty sure, too. So, it's funny because I started"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "researching because I thought, well, for sure they've got to have them here. And there is, I think, an a website or"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "something called Rent a Friend. And, um, but then I started looking through all these forums, uh, Western forums,"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "where people were really kind of shit-talking renting a friend. And I thought what a fascinating"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "what a fascinating perspective to re to look down on people like especially in"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "this age when we know that people are less connected. So to look down on the fact that it's okay to have a simulated"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "connection with somebody because really what a lot of people want is the simplicity. Right? When you rent a"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "friend it's simple. They come there is no baggage. There's no"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "judgments, judgments, there's no hurt feelings and you know did they like me or not and"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "what it doesn't matter because they're serving a purpose for you and that's what they have chosen to do right and"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "the fact that you're paying them money I don't think that and personally I don't think that"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "u lessens the experience right yeah you know what's funny is I I love"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "what you're talking about right now because renting a friend if they're good at what"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "they do. Yes. It's basically the same thing as renting a case officer. Yeah. Right. Like it's somebody who's gonna"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "come over and they're gonna make you feel good about you. Yes. They're going to ask you questions."}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "They're going to talk to you. They're going to do the things that you like to do. Whether it's backing or part cheesy or"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "watching a movie or talking [ __ ] about a reality TV show. Yeah. Whatever it is, if you like it, they're"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "going to do it with you because you like it. And through that process,"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "you are getting all the needs that you need to have filled, right? Filled by a person who just happened to"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "be hired for the purpose of right making you feel that feeling of connection. And what's really wild is"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "be there's a level of discretion that's built into it. Yeah. So, you already know that your"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "other friends and your mother-in-law and your kids and everybody else, they're not going to hear any gossip from this"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "rented friend, right? Yeah. You don't have to have a history with somebody to feel seen by"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "them. Yeah. Right. You can feel seen by somebody you just met. And that's kind of the point,"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "you know, and the exchange. I mean, every relationship is an exchange. You know, most relationships that we think"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "of, there's an exchange of, you know, I listen to you, you listen to me, I do this favor for you. Like, I have you"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "over for Thanksgiving, you have me over for Christmas, whatever. I spend time with you, you spend time with me. Exactly. So, what is the difference"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "between the exchange being I pay you money and you come and I and I feel seen. I have a sounding board. You know,"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "I can talk about my aging parents. I can talk about my, you know, I'm I'm lonely."}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "I can talk about, you know, you can I can talk about the fact that I'm lonely and I'm I'm awkward dating, you know, I"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "mean, you can complain about your kids. Yeah. You can complain about your spouse. Yeah. I mean, you can vent all sorts of things"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "and the other person's job, literally their job is just to listen, smile,"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "maybe offer some comforting words, maybe offer an alternate perspective. Yeah. Depending on what kind of friend you"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "hired, I'm guessing there's probably a friend profile so you know what kind of person you're hiring. That's so"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "interesting. You know, when I think about what you're talking about, it it does make perfect sense because if I if I on the road"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "Yeah. If I needed to connect with somebody, like I wouldn't I would never be able to"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "connect with the people I work with. Because even if I was willing to be authentic and genuine and transparent"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "with them, there's no guarantee that they're going to be the same thing with me. And there's no guarantee that what I say to Bob isn't going to become gossip"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "with Jane, you know, Bill, and and Buster before the end of the trip."}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "Yeah. So, it Wow. All of a sudden, paying someone How much does a friend cost?"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "I have no idea. Whatever the number paying someone $15 an hour, $25 an hour,"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "whatever it is. Yeah. Like, what would what would an expensive What would an expensive friend be?"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "Mhm. if you knew that you could basically like confide in them and feel connection for two or three hours. And"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "what's fascinating is this sounds horrible when I'm with my real friends"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "half the time I'm like I want to be done hanging out now"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "and I just kind of want you to go home because I'm done. Like I feel what I needed to feel. I feel connected. I feel"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "like the conversation was great and now I want to get on to the next thing I have to do. But how do I awkwardly but"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "friendly tell you please go home? You really are like the master of like"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "hey it's been fun guys but uh you gotta go. I don't know if I'm the master of it. I"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "just say it right now. I just say it. I don't that's why I don't have many friends. It's true. You have your friends have a"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "very thick uh thick skin. Very thick skin. But I mean there's also so many other things like if you you"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "know if you feel if you're shy, you're very introverted, you feel awkward"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "having conversations, it's a safe space for you to practice being social. If you"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "are young and you would like to date or something, you know, it's an a safe space for you to kind of go out and"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "practice, you know, not the full dating cycle, but practice, you know, having conversations or what's it like or, you"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "know, there's so many things you can do and it's safe. That's what I like about it, right? There's there's no baggage."}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "There's no, you know, there's no worries there. Yeah. You know, they're there for you."}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "Are you going to move to Japan while I'm gone? I hope not. Oh gosh. If the flight was shorter"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "and if you're going to rent a friend and if our daughter ate anything other than string cheese. Oh, that's true. Yeah. I just She was She's not going to"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "do well. She's not going to do well. I don't know how I'm going to get her to eat the food there. So, so, uh, if you need to rent a"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "friend, I understand. I would support it now that we've had this conversation. I'm kind of like, \"Oh, you know, it does kind of make sense.\""}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Go get your go get a massage together. Go get your toenails done together. There's going to be a lucky ass friend,"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "though, too. Like the person that gets called by you to be like, \"Hey, come hang out with me for two and a half hours so we can get a massage and get"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "our nails done and go eat good food.\" Yeah. Somebody to go get f with. That's a very lucky friend."}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "I would love to be that friend. I know. I would prefer be you obviously except I'm working. Yeah, that sucks. So"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "So then uh while you're not running away to Japan, not yet. I would also I would also like"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "to highlight that one of my favorite countries has been in the news lately. Yeah. Argentina."}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "Which one and the reason it's my favorite country is not because of the media lunas or the cortados. Those are excellent. It's not because of the beef"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "which is excellent. It's one of my favorite places because it's always a disaster. Argentina is"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "always always going through some kind of ridiculous chaos that's politically"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "driven. It's like on a two to five year cycle. It's just constant and and they're such close they go back and"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "forth between being allies with the US, not allies with the US, trading partners"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "with the US, not trading partners with the US. And it's just been it's comical and that's a big part of why I like it"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "because you go there and you're kind of like what's going to happen in Buenocidis this week? You never really know. Yeah, I do find it. I mean, I also love"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "Argentina. I spent a summer there and it was just magical. Although I do I did wish there was more variety in"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "vegetables, but I mean, like the beef and the wine was so amazing. That's your variety right there."}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "Right. Right. Yeah. And lots of potatoes. Um, but I do, you know, I I"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "loved it there. I love the people. The culture is so amazing. And it is fascinating to watch"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "what happens o over the years politically. I actually had a um one of my law school instructors, there was a a"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "period in the 70s um when there's there's this giant book about it um when there were there was a dictator and"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "people were just disappearing and he was actually an American uh teacher there"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "and he was actually kidnapped and tortured during that regime. Oh my gosh. And it was so fascinating to learn that"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "history and to meet him and talk to him and so to watch how the country has evolved over time has been really"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "interesting. But just like you said, they're so unlike the other Latin American countries and you know, they"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "just had their presidential election. They just elected a new president and he's so fascinating."}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "He's making news everywhere, which is what's so interesting. Argentina doesn't make news. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "it doesn't. Not unless you're looking for them. True. True. But here, the new Argentine"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "president, who honestly looks like a sitcom TV character. Do you think so?"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "Absolutely. the shoveled hair, kind of round face, mildly portly body, like the dude looks like a like a sitcom comedy"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "pluckucky character. He's so different from the other Latin American president. Yes. So, tell us how. Tell me how."}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "So, what got me was I'm like, \"Oh, Argentina had an election and you know, I'm reading about the president and I'm"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "the article is like, yeah, and he wants to privatize half the government agencies.\" And I was like, \"What? That"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "is exactly the opposite of what all the other Latin American presidents do. Yes."}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "You know like Venezuela Chaveis came in everything became you know stateowned sailing. Ecuador, Brazil, Peru, Chile, every like"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "the whole the theme of Central and South America has been has been for the last maybe 10 years."}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "Oh my gosh. Longer than that. Yeah. This shift what they call the pink I think they call it a pink wave or a"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "pink tide. It's basically going socialist. Yeah. Right. Take everything that's"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "privatized, make it public, massively increase like the social structure, massively increase government,"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "right? And subsidize the lives of everyday people. And that's driven Latin America"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "into a just a dark dark place and it's made all sorts of problems for them. It hasn't they haven't been able to"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "fulfill the promises that they said it was going to to do. Yeah. Because they're catering to the"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "lowest common denominator, right? when you're when you're literally like Chavez did in in in Venezuela, like Maduro"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "still does in Venezuela, when you buy votes simply by giving people eggs and milk and bread,"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "you're not on a rising trajectory as far as a country goes. But Argentina"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "isn't doing that here. This new president is starkly going in the opposite direction."}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "And what's fascinating is he's not conservative or liberal. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "Right. He is he's essentially libertarian. Yeah. Yeah. And that's one"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "of the reasons I find it so fascinating is because there are a lot of there are a lot of"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "people in the United States who feel the same way about libertarianism. Yes. Yes."}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "Smaller government. Um, and one of the most interesting, one of the interesting ideas, um, that came out of what I was"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "reading about what the president of Argentina wants to do is, you know, by privatizing, by creating a smaller"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "government, you're lowering taxes because you have a smaller government to support. Um, and so just the the entire"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "con this entire concept, I was really excited because if he can get the government to move in the direction that"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "he wants, we get to watch this experiment. Well, the good news is the good news is I mean"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "if he has his way, he's basically firing half the government. It's fascinating, right? Because what what he wants to do"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "is take everything that's public and privatize it. To to privatize what the government controls means you don't need"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "government jobs, right? So he's going to create theoretically a huge amount of demand in the workforce"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "for openings for new jobs. Yeah. And he's going to fire half of his existing government, right? in order to save the costs"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "because with no p without public services, you don't have the right to tax the population,"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "right? Because you don't and you can't spend the tax base that you have because you're not actually running any services"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "or functions. So, they won't be able to tax people, which means they won't be able to pay their own people. They won't be able to"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "pay government staff. So, they'll fire staff and put new workforce into the public sector,"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "right? And then or into the private sector, pardon me. and the private sector will then like rise up and start creating"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "more business efficiency, more services efficiency, more infrastructure efficiency."}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "And he'll I mean the way he's talking about it, it's going to be fast and drastic."}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "Yeah. I mean that's the theory and Argentina is the perfect place to do it because they're always in chaos."}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "Well, you know, I grew up I was raised by, you know, very liberal pres parents and um I was very"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "progressively liberal throughout college and I was raised with this idea that"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "private industry is bad that corporate corporations are evil and they don't"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "care about the little person and they just want to make you know the the 1% doesn't care about you."}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "But the truth is that businesses are more efficient than government. And there's you have to weigh the pros and"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "cons of what they're able to do. And it's not that that private industry or, you know,"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "public domain are are bad in and of themselves because it's all about the"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "people running them, right? So, it just comes down to who's behind"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "whatever services we need. And if the if people in the private industry can do it"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "better, then yeah, it's going to work. People in the private industry really don't care about the little people, then"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "yeah, it's going to fulfill all those all those bad things that people think about corporations."}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "Well, not only that, but I mean, there's the the truth is that whether the 1%"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "cares about us or not is irrelevant because the the foundation, the population"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "is what business needs, right? Business dies without customers, right? Customers are simply people who choose"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "to spend their money on whatever consumer goods or consu uh consumable"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "goods they choose to spend their money on, whatever they choose to buy. You can be a a jackass company"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "and be the only company that offers a certain good. Think Facebook when I first started,"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "right? Nobody likes Zuckerberg. Lots of people still don't like Zuckerberg. Most people don't like Facebook,"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "but it's the only Facebook out there, so it's the only thing people use. Yeah. It's the same kind of problem. I have a"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "I have a friend who hates X. Oh, really? Hates X. Former former journalist."}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "Yeah. Hates X, formerly known as Twitter. Mhm. Hated Twitter. Hates Elon Musk. Hates"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "all the misinformation, all the dis. Like, dude, all he does is is just [ __ ] about the X platform."}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "That's funny. Why? And guess where he spends all his time? That's really funny. On the platform. And I'm like, why do"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "you complain so much about it? Yeah. And use it. Yeah. And he's like, well, because the fact is"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "it's still the only place that journalists, like independent journalists, can go now to to air their"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "stories and get seen and get discovered. That's interesting. I like, well, then you can't hate it that much. Yeah. Like if it's if it is the tool that"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "serves the need. Yeah. That's why people use it. So you don't you don't need"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "the the point I'm making is that we don't need to hate corporations,"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "right? Because they don't care about us. They shouldn't care about us. What a corporation should care about is"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "producing a service that's so good or a product that's so good,"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "right? That fulfills a need that people have, right? And then as long as they provide the service and other people have the need,"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "all that's left is price, right? If it's too expensive, people won't buy it."}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "If it's too cheap, too many people will buy it, right? So, it's all about finding the right"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "price for the right people and making it work from there. And that's why like I know Nike doesn't care about me and I know"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "New Balance doesn't care. All the shoes that I wear when I exercise or run, not a single one of those CEOs actually"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "cares about me. I don't really care about them either, but I do care that what I put on my foot"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "keeps me safe in the gym and you know gives me ankle support and arch support and whatever else, right? And I think in theory"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "if so it's like when you move out of your parents house, right? When you are living in your parent because I always"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "knew the government as a parent which is growing up I thought I see the government as a warden. I"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "always growing up I thought you need a big government to take care of people to take care of the people who have nothing"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "else who have nobody else to turn to because I grew up when the welfare system was really expanding but in theory just like"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "when you move out of your house and suddenly you have to cook for yourself you figure out how to cook for yourself"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "and maybe you do it even better than the way your mom cooked right maybe you don't cook everything on high heat sorry"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "Mom,"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "she still cooks everything on Heidi. I know, but she had a lot going on back then. So, just I'll give her some I'll give"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "her grace for sure. But you So, in theory, if if the government shrinks and"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "there are still needs, right? There are still public service welfare needs"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "there. Then in theory people will come up with new ideas to fulfill those needs"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "and or and the market will force them to do it in an efficient cost-effective way. Exactly. So just like you know maybe"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "your business will still be profit driven because you have to make profits to survive but you'll find a creative"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "way to take a portion of those profits and help the people in your community. maybe the help will be more localized,"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "which a number of people have been saying that having such a big government and such a large federal welfare system"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "is really ineffective because every community is so different and there's no one-sizefits-all solution. So, if you"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "start really privatizing, then you can really start it, you know, instead of fixing everything with a sledgehammer,"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "you fix it with a scalpel and the community itself can come together and better address the needs of their"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "community. Yeah. It reminds me of what we have here in the United States with the food movement especially where you"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "have these very liberal people Yeah. and very liberal communities that criticize factory farming."}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "Mhm. But at the same time they want a large government and the large government wants factory farming."}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "Yeah. Because that's how they can have massive control and regulation over all the food that goes to the population. So you have"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "these two groups that stand at total odds over what they value, but they still are somehow on the same"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "side, right? It doesn't make sense. It's it's like hypocrisy, right? So, uh, all that to say,"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "Argentina, you've got two fans. I'm so excited to see how it goes. And we we wish you and your new"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "Libertarian president and future Libertarian government, we wish you absolute success. Oh, yeah. Because if you are a success"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "case for the United States, maybe we will find our way out of this ridiculous"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "bipolar or this ridiculous polarity. Yeah, this Yeah, bipolar is exactly the right"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "word. Ridiculous uh whirlpool that we live in"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "right now, right? Where we're just oh, we're ridiculous. Spinning the same ideas over and over"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "and over again. What's the point? There's nothing new right now. Let's impeach another president cuz that's what we're talking about right now, right?"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "doing the same thing that didn't work. Exactly. So, so if for anybody who can be a ray of sunshine"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "Yeah. to the end of a polarized government Argentina, we salute. We salute you."}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "And uh and keep up the great wine and steak, please. Don't change that. Don't change that."}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "Shipping the M back. Now, we always try to have a conversation around a question from"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "someone in our spy tribe. somebody who leaves a comment on the podcast or reaches out to us via email through the"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "newsletter or through social media. Do you have a good question for us? Yeah, I somebody asked and I think it's"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "very appropriate this this time of year. Somebody asked how you and I go about making decisions together particularly"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "when we disagree. I don't know how to answer that question publicly."}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "So, we disagree often. Oh yeah, we disagree often. And uh I don't know"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "that either one of us I think you if there's one of us that has true Trump"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "power like true the ability to just totally trump the other person's idea. I think it's you because and you I"}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "but I try not to I know you try not to but I feel like you're the one who can do it. I don't feel like I I don't think I am ever in a"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "position where you give me an idea and I'm like straight up no way. But there are plenty of times where I give you an"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "idea and you're like straight up not happening. I think it goes both ways. I just my"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "example is always when I was like like three weeks away from my due date and I"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "wanted to go see a meteor shower that was 2 hours in the boonies in the middle of winter and you're like no babe we're"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "not what I said though. That's not So this is this is a fantastic perfect case"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "study. You are literally getting ready to have a baby. Yes. In the final few weeks. And for any"}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "woman or man who has been in the final few weeks before a baby is delivered. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "Like people get loopy. People just start having really bad ideas. So here you are like"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "you're just ready to be done. You're like I don't even care anymore. And it was it was our first child. So we had never even gone down this rodeo"}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "before. And you're huge and you're so pregnant and you're walking every day to try to"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "get this baby out. I remember I was like so swollen my like shoes didn't fit."}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:20", "text": "Yeah. But but you were going through this phase where all you could think about was like life was ending. Like my life is going to end."}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "Like whatever's inside here is going to come out and then then it's just all baby time."}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "Yep. Just put me in handcuffs and lock me in a cage because I'm never going to have a life ever again. And it was so"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:37", "text": "irrational, but I at the same time I was like, \"Oh, my poor my poor wife.\" Yeah. Feels like she's going to go to jail and"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "I'm so excited about having a baby that I of course I'm not carrying and of course I'm not feeling the discomfort"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "of. But there was a meteor shower. You're exactly right. There was a a historic like hund once every hundred year meteor"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "shower in Virginia that we were going to be able to see. But you had to be in a dark sky area at"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "like 2:00 in the morning. And I'm pretty sure it was cloudy all day. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:08", "text": "And the forecast was for clouds overnight. Yep. And you came to me and you were like, \"Babes, this is this is all I want"}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "before I go to baby prison forever. I just want to see the meteor shower. Can we just go see the meteor shower?\" And"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "I'm sitting here. I'm like, \"There is no way in hell that you are actually going to be good tomorrow. If I drive your ass"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "2 hours into Podunk, Virginia, I wouldn't have even made it. I would have at 2:00 in the morning to look at a"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "cloud a sky full of clouds. I was like, this is not a good idea. So So, but I never said no. Yeah. Yeah. You have a way of not saying"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "no, which is good. I was like, this is going to go really bad here in a second."}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "I've been practicing not not saying no or saying things in better ways. But I do think that something we do is we take"}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:55", "text": "our time making a decision. And I think that's really important. That's fair. Right. So, one of the processes that I"}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "know we use is I at least I use is I make a pro, this is funny now that I think about it. I make a pros and cons"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "list and then you go through and you wait. You put numbers to weight them. Do"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:13", "text": "you remember when we make for really big decisions? And then because sometimes I'll feel like I'm leaning one way, but"}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "then once we've waited all the pros and cons that I've listed out, I'll realize that"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:27", "text": "really it's, you know, the decision goes in the other direction. So I think by I'm a really emotional person. So and"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "all of my initial ideas and reactions come from the emotions. So by I think"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "you do a great job by giving me time and space to come back to the problem and"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:46", "text": "think about it. I mean, it's not like weeks of time, but even just a couple of days, you know, a few hours to let me"}, {"start": "00:38:46", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "just kind of, you know, you say your piece, I say my piece, you know, if we come back to it. If there's still no"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:38:58", "text": "resolution, then we can do a pros and cons list. I like to write out all the ideas. I come back to it back and forth."}, {"start": "00:38:58", "end": "00:39:07", "text": "And I think that's for me that process really helps me distance myself or let my emotions calm down. So then you know"}, {"start": "00:39:07", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "off I mean we were doing this yesterday trying to plan vacations and I think you know I had these grand ideas at the"}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:19", "text": "beginning of the day and by the time we went to bed literally as we were falling asleep I was like you know what babe like"}, {"start": "00:39:19", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "I realize I'm we I need to pull it back and so let's just do that and you know and the decision was made but it took me"}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "all day to get there but well the decision wasn't made but a new way of looking at the decision"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:39", "text": "was made but that's that goes right to your point you're right We take our time making decisions. Yeah. So to to the question to the original"}, {"start": "00:39:39", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "question that was asked um we definitely have it so that one person does have the power to"}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:51", "text": "totally veto an idea. Right. So you do have the power to veto but you use it rarely"}, {"start": "00:39:51", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "which makes me trust when you use it. Yeah. And then there's certainly an element of"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "always watching out for the other person's best interest. Yes. So, like with the meteor shower story,"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "I I would have loved to have seen a meteor shower, but I was not going to love what you"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "were going to feel like the next day. Yeah. Being, you know, 10 months pregnant"}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "after staying up all night to try to see a meteor shower. Not to mention the fact that neither of us was going to like it if in the middle of the meteor shower"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:25", "text": "you went into labor. Yeah. And I think something else that we do is which touches on the meteor shower"}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "and we've done a lot since having kids is we ask ourselves the question of why do we want to do this? Because we've"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "had a number of ideas. We're like this is a great idea and then we're like why are we doing this? And if the answer is"}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "well we're doing it for the kids and then the next question is is this the best thing for the kids right? Are we"}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:50", "text": "doing it for ourselves? Are we doing it for them? What's really if we're doing it for ourselves should we include them? if we're doing it for"}, {"start": "00:40:50", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "them, do we both need to be there? Right. And yeah, you're right. So, we're always asking the why question is really,"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "really important and always thinking through what is actually in the best interest of the"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "person that you're thinking about when you consider the decision. Yes. So, slow decision- making. Yep."}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "Asking that why question and keeping in perspective. Yeah. The other person's needs, true needs and"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "desires, right? And then you're you're exactly right on big decisions having a"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "process or having a system and our system like you said our process has been"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "the to the most emotional of the two people assuming that one person is more"}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:37", "text": "emotional than the other. If you're both emotional then both people should do it I imagine. Yeah. I'm I'm always the emotional one."}, {"start": "00:41:37", "end": "00:41:45", "text": "There's Yeah. But create that a list of pros, a list of cons. It doesn't have to be long. Just 10 or so on each side. M if we make"}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:51", "text": "this decision, here's 10 good things, here's 10 bad things. If we make that decision, here's 10 good things, here's 10 bad things,"}, {"start": "00:41:51", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "and then give each one of them a score from 1 to 10, where each item can only get one score."}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:03", "text": "So that forces you essentially to prioritize what is the thing that gets the most score. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "And then what often times we find with you at least is that the things that you score the highest because you're forced"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:15", "text": "to use rationality. Yeah. Right. You're forced to use logic and reasoning. Y whenever you score them"}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "often times what happens is the things that you were the most emotional about are not the highest scoring items."}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "Correct. And it's been really interesting because then you do you have your own It's really nice for me because I don't have"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "to be in the middle of being the one that tells you you're no and you're wrong and you're not thinking about it. That does not work."}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "Not for my best interest. Nope. But there we go. That's a great So great"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "question and great conversation. That's exactly I feel like we do have a pretty good way of solving big big questions."}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "It's been working out. Is it? And and just so everybody knows, it is not uh it's not pretty."}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:56", "text": "No. Yeah. There's still our marriage is not pretty. No, it works pretty well."}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:01", "text": "Yeah. It's not all like smiles and apple pie, but it's not pretty. But right before we started recording"}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:07", "text": "this, we were in one of those moments. We were like, \"Oh, come on. I'm taking my deep breaths. I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:43:07", "end": "00:43:13", "text": "\"Oh, I have to look like I like Andy.\" You don't ever have to look like you"}, {"start": "00:43:13", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "like me because it's so real that you do. It's true. I'm very lucky that way. But no, but in"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "all seriousness, I mean, marriages work. And I was talking to somebody on the crew who actually recently went through a"}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "divorce. And he was like he was verbalizing how disappointed he was that his mom and"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "dad, who had a great marriage, Yeah. never once told him or his sisters or his brothers how hard marriage is."}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "Oh yeah. I felt the same way after we got married where I was like, \"Nobody told me this was hard.\" The movies make it look like marriage is"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "like the ultimate goal. Yeah. Right. You find somebody, you fall in love, you're romantic to each other, you're kind to"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "each other. The end. Yeah. Marriage is hard. Yeah. And it's not just hard work. It's hard"}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:44:02", "text": "because people change. You are not the person you were when I met you in 2007. I am not the person I was when you met"}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:07", "text": "me then. Right? Like we are not who we were when we got married in 2010. We are not who we were"}, {"start": "00:44:07", "end": "00:44:13", "text": "when our child was our first child was born in 2013. We are not the same people and we're constantly"}, {"start": "00:44:13", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "growing, changing, shifting. We have different interests and yet we're forced"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "by our own valition to do this thing together. Yeah. So there's moments forever"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "which you laugh at. I think it's comforting. I remember the moment that forever dawned on you and you were"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "terrified. The night we got married. I was like, \"Oh my god, this is forever.\""}, {"start": "00:44:41", "end": "00:44:46", "text": "Lucky you. Lucky you."}, {"start": "00:44:46", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "But but there's a I mean, so marriage is hard. And anybody who's hearing this"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "message, anybody who hears our conversations and is part of a married couple or was"}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "married or is considering marriage, Mhm. I know you get it. I know I know the"}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "person listening understands that if they're married, if there's a ring on their finger or if there's ever been a ring on their finger,"}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "this is so so hard. But at the same time, it's such a unique"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:20", "text": "opportunity over all the people who never get married and all the people who get married but then maybe don't try their hardest. One"}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:28", "text": "of the saddest things that I come across is is clients and customers and peers who got married and were only married"}, {"start": "00:45:28", "end": "00:45:35", "text": "for a few years or less. Yeah. And then when they had that first whiff of hardness of difficulty,"}, {"start": "00:45:35", "end": "00:45:41", "text": "they were gone. Yeah. Yeah. And it's especially hard for the people who like made it 20 years, 18 years, 30"}, {"start": "00:45:41", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "years of marriage and then divorced. Yeah. Because then they become like they realize how a little bit more work"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "would have resulted in a life partner. Yeah. There's plenty of people who get divorces and it's for the right reasons"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:46:01", "text": "and and it's great for them. Yeah. But predominantly what I have seen in my experience is a lot of people who regret"}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "the fact that they didn't try harder. Yeah. So, one of the things I love about us is that we have had some dark years"}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "in our marriage and we keep trying. Yeah. Right. Like we always keep trying. We"}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:21", "text": "always trust trust in the process of communicate, make better decisions, like"}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:27", "text": "lean into the discomfort because, you know, one day it's either it's it's either going to"}, {"start": "00:46:27", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "work out for the best. Yeah. or it's not going to work out for the best, but we'll have known that we"}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:38", "text": "tried our hardest every step of the way. Right. We're never going to have to ask ourselves that question whether or not we didn't."}, {"start": "00:46:38", "end": "00:46:43", "text": "Right. Exactly. And for sure that every year that the kids get older, every year that the business gets"}, {"start": "00:46:43", "end": "00:46:49", "text": "stronger, every year that that we are healthy,"}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "like we do, we get closer, we grow more, we get closer, we find our voice,"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:47:01", "text": "uh we stand our ground, and it makes makes for a really wonderful relationship. So, thank you. Thank you for my wonderful difficult marriage."}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:07", "text": "You're welcome. I'll I'll keep making it difficult for you. Promises. Promises."}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:12", "text": "Folks, thank you so much for joining us. If you enjoyed this conversation, please leave a comment below. if you felt like"}, {"start": "00:47:12", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "we were speaking about something that was important to you, whether it's Argentine wine and steak or whether it's"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:24", "text": "the challenges of marriage or if you want to rent a friend like GI wants to rent a friend, leave a comment below,"}, {"start": "00:47:24", "end": "00:47:30", "text": "too, so that the whole world knows we're not the only ones who are crazy about this stuff. Uh, and of course, leave"}, {"start": "00:47:30", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "your questions so we can pick them up and add them to our Q&A every every time we sit down and have one of these"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:41", "text": "conversations. So, we really enjoy having a chance to serve you. We really enjoy uh the opportunity to watch the"}, {"start": "00:47:41", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "channel grow and watch all of you join us for these conversations. We genuinely hope that you are having a wonderful"}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:53", "text": "holiday season yourself. In the United States, we just celebrated Thanksgiving and we have our eyes set on Christmas"}, {"start": "00:47:53", "end": "00:47:59", "text": "and the new year and this is a very important holiday season for multiple cultures around the world, multiple"}, {"start": "00:47:59", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "countries around the world. and we hope that you are spending awesome time with family, having a blast, having all the"}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:11", "text": "same hardship that we have, and having some fun along the way. Thank you so much for everything, and we can't wait"}, {"start": "00:48:11", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "to talk to you next time. [Applause]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "Is there any autonomy in the as a as an"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "intel guy at the CIA that influences you"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "or I guess I would say a train of"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "thought that while you're doing this as"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "a job is that you look at whether or not"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "it's right or wrong or is it super black"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "and white and you're just just the facts"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "kind of thing like"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "yeah it's a great question. Um it"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "develops over time just like with any"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "career when you first come in you start"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "to learn in hindsight. In hindsight, you"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "start to realize why the military"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "recruits young, why CIA recruits young,"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "why FBI recruits old, right? The average"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "CIA officer recruited is about 26 years"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "old. The average FBI officer is like 32."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "Why? Well, you start to realize that"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "what they're looking for in their"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "recruits requires a certain number of"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "years of life experience. And what CI"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "really wants from a young recruit is"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "black and white thinking, clear loyalty,"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "clear division of of opinion and fact"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "because they can cultivate that into"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "somebody who operates autonomously in"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "the field predictably for about three"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "tours. But they also know that after"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "three tours, they need to bring you back"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "to Langley so they can"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "reinstitutionalize you, help you rest"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "and recuperate, help you kind of get"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "through some of the trauma you saw for"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "those first three tours. And then"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "depending on how you perform at Langley,"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "they might send you out for another tour"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "or two in a middle level leadership"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "role, bring you back, and then only like"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "the senior, you know, five or 10% ever"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "go back out into the field again for a"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "senior job for exactly that reason"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "because they know they can't send"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "someone out who is going to question"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "what's right, wrong, priority, not a"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "priority. Our job, our mission is to"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "execute the intelligence requirements"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "dictated by the United States policy"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "makers who are elected officials put in"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "positions of identifying uh intelligence"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "priorities."}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "Yeah. So, even more so that way in the"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "military, like I just need somebody"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "who's going to do what the [ __ ] I tell"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "them to do. And the older you get and"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "the more behind the curtain you see, the"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "less that happens. And objectivity is is"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "your worst nightmare basically."}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "Yeah. And then and so think about what"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "that means. And this is the part that"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "this is the uncomfortable conversation I"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "feel like not enough people have. That"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "means your senior military officers are"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "not the most capable."}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "They're the most obedient."}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "Oh, for sure."}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "The most institutionalized. It means the"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "people who are leading FBI, CIA, NSA,"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "those are not the most capable, most"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "intelligent, most innovative."}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "They are the people who [ __ ] color"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "within the lines and they've done it"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "their entire career and they will yes"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "their way up the [ __ ] ladder."}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "Yeah. I mean to me it's that way in"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "corporate America too you know because"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "there there are parallels there with um"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "you know the because a lot of like"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "seauite guys at at huge corporations I"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "mean it's kind and it kind of almost"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "shadows like the the game show Survivor."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "Oh yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "It's like it's not who's the best, it's"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "who's the best at not pissing anybody or"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "the fewest people off and and being"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "enough of a gray man being just charming"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "enough. I mean, it kind of reminds me of"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "the the scene in Oceans 11 where u"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "they're in the elevator and Matt Damon's"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "talking to one of the other guys telling"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "him how to not [ __ ] stick out. Like,"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "be funny but not too funny, be charming"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "but not memorable. Like,"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "it's kind of that same thing. It's like"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "it's not it almost has nothing to do"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "with competency. It's who checks the"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "right box, who pisses the fewest people"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "off, who does what they're told, you"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "know, just enough to fit in. Not so much"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "to where, you know, everybody [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "hates you and you're a total kiss ass."}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "It's, you know, it's a really weird"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "metric or or path to success and and it"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "seems to be paralleled in in all big"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "industries."}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "Well, arguably what I would say is that"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "we're we're actually seeing a"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "transition. I would say 10 12 years ago,"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "you were exactly right. In multiple"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "industries from government to corporate"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "America, you played by the rules. You"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "did what was you did what the board told"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "you to do. You did what the donors or"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "the investors told you to do and you"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "just did it right. But with the advent"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "of companies like Facebook, with"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "Twitter, with um PayPal, a new"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "generation of business leaders came in"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "that were absolutely countercultural,"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "right? Who Elon Musk, one of the"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "richest, most famous guys in the world"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "on the autistic spectrum. Nobody likes"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "him. Even the people who love his"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "products don't really like the man. And"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "yet somehow he is able to like become a"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "personality force of nature. or"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "Zuckerberg was the same way for a long"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "time. You've got the same thing with uh"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "with um um Donald Trump, right, in"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "politics. Here are people who who 10 to"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "12 years ago, we would have never"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "accepted them as a leader of industry."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "And now we've adapted as a as a society,"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "we've kind of demonstrated our appetite"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "for a change, for disruption of the"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "status quo. And uh and I think that"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "especially even now as we sit here, you"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "know, the Democratic National Convention"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "is happening in Chicago and in the field"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "of politics, you can literally see this"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "playing out. You can see one side saying"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "we want to disrupt the status quo and"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "one side saying we represent the status"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "quo, stay true to the status quo, double"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "down on the status quo. And and it's"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "happening at the political level. It's"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "happening in corporate America with"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "different CEOs. But as you and I know"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "very well, government always moves"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "slower than speed of business."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "So one day I'm hoping we will see a day"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "where colonels and generals are"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "specifically chosen because they"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "disrupted what we did in the past and"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "found a better way to create a process."}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "But it's going to take a whole new"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "generation of military officers. Well,"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "yeah, that and I think uh it's going to"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "take an administration that values and"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "rewards that too, you know, because I do"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "think that there's probably some guys"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "that fall into that category that, you"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "know, if somebody um or or if there were"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "enough administrations in a row in"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "charge that fired shitbags and and and"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "hired and rewarded the the true"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "patriots, I think you could change it"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "relatively quick, but I think that's the"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "only way to do it. Um, back to the"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "corporate thing. I mean, it sounds like"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "from what you're saying uh that you see"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "it as kind of an old guard and a new"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "guard, like there's two very different"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "um types of industry,"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "right? And I would say that for a few"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "reasons, right? So, um I'm I'm very"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "blessed now that a big chunk of the"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "revenue that's generated by my company"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "comes from uh industry leaders, high net"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "worth, ultra high net worth, uh"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "investors, uh strategic adviserss, CEOs."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "Uh and I'll just tell you one real quick"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "example. I mean, I have a I have a"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "client in LA who works in the cannabis"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "industry, and he's a leader in the"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "cannabis industry, specifically in his"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "subniche, right? And this was a guy who"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "got to where he got because he"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "positioned himself before cannabis was"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "ever legal in the United States. Prior"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "to that, he was just a [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "entrepreneur trying to scrape by to make"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "it work with a product that he believed"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "in, right? And that's all he was doing."}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "But, you know, rebellious,"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "countercultural, no. Everybody thought"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "cannabis would never be legalized. And"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "of course, it's not going to be"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "legalized. And if you're helping"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "backyard growers, you're a bad person,"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "right? You're breaking policy. And and"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "that was the world he was born of as an"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "entrepreneur. And then he participated"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "in trying to in trying to lobby to get"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "it legalized in the United States. He"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "was super smart on all the regulations,"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "which countries were or which states"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "were going to say yes first. Now he sits"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "in a spectacular apartment in a"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "spectacular part of the city in a"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "penthouse in a place that most of us can"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "only dream about living because he just"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "he bucked all of the cultural norms. And"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "he said, \"Fuck it. This is what I'm good"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "at. This is where I think we're going."}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "This is my vision. I'm either right or"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "wrong, but I'm all in.\" Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "And we're seeing more and more people"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "like that in industry. I was sitting"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "with a client in New York just a few"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "days ago who's the same way. an"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "architect who's bucking the system and"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "winning most of the time. CIA believes"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "that all people are born with a spy"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "secret superpower. For some people, that"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "means they can win deals. For others,"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "they can spot liars. Some can even"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "seduce lovers. I built a free 3inut test"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "to help reveal to you exactly what your"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "secret hidden superpower is. All you"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "have to do is click on the link in the"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "description below, take the test, and"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "start using your spy superpower to stay"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "ahead of 99% of people."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "But bureaucracy and policy works against"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "him. So, he's one of those two steps"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "forward, one step back because he's"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "constantly fighting an entrenched, you"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "know, marketplace that's still supported"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "by old guard."}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "Yeah. Uh, what type of stuff do you do"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "for clients like that?"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "There's a it's a wide range. So"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "essentially what I what I built with"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "everyday spy um for the ultra high net"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "worth client is we built a ca a a suite"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "of capabilities. If you think about it"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "even your time with the seals, right? We"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "are not individually"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "talented. We are individually skilled"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "but not individually talented. If"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "anything our talent is learning a new"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "skill, learning whatever skills put in"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "front of us. And then what the"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "government does with us, what makes an"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "an elite unit is creating a suite of"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "people who are highly capable in a"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "variety of skills. So all I did when I"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "left CIA was build the same thing in the"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "corporate side. So everyday spy has a"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "corporate functionality and all we do is"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "bring together industry-leading"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "capabilities from the government sector"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "that nobody realizes has applicability"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "in the private sector. due diligence,"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "investigations, surveillance, digital"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "surveillance, uh offensive and defensive"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "cyber operations that are fully within"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "the confines of the law, right?"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "International training, national"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "training, uh leadership training, all"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "these skills that corporate leaders want"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "and need, especially in the world of of"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "new emerging threats. They don't even"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "realize these capabilities exist. So"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "when people trip into my company, when"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "they find their way through, whether"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "it's podcasting or me speaking at an"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "event, inevitably they come and they"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "say, \"Hey, I have a problem. Can you"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "help?\" And that's that's where we do"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "most of our business development for for"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "highle clients."}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "Is there three to five most common"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "problems that you guys solve for"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "corporations?"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "Absolutely. So I would say the first one"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "is due diligence. Not just the So, if if"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "anybody's in a world of due diligence,"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "whether you're doing due diligence on um"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "a jury, whether you're doing due"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "diligence on a new merger acquisition"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "target, whether you're doing due"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "diligence on on your daughter's, you"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "know, fiance,"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "whatever's going on. Most people don't"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "realize that that your typical due"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "diligence that you hire an attorney to"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "execute. the attorney subcontracts that"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "out to some private investigator who has"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "a $500 a year license on on some uh you"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "know Lexus Nexus or something and it's"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "all pencil whipping. That's the typical"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "due diligence. And people char people"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "charge $15,000 for due diligence like"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "that. Very very weak due diligence in"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "our opinion because all you're really"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "looking at is documented records."}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "Yeah. Whereas when we are called in to"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "work, especially for a company who's"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "hiring a new CEO, a company who's"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "debating whether or not to press charges"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "on on a contractor or subcontractor,"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "when we do due diligence for them, it's"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "it's paperwork due diligence, but it's"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "also real time cyber due diligence. We"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "have the ability to geoence targets and"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "look at their cyber behavior, look at"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "who they're communicating with, look at,"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "you know, what uh what foreign, what"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "local, what connections they're making"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "through their network. I mean, it's a"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "really cool capability, completely legal"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "that that we do, you know, to in defense"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "against counterterrorism or defense"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "against human trafficking, but that"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "gives a completely different level of"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "due diligence to those corporate"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "leaders. And then we have uh a pretty"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "significant portion of our business that"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "um that just fixes problems, finding"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "people that you can't find because of"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "whatever else. Also, we we do a lot of"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "work that makes sure that lawsuits"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "happen in settlements instead of"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "litigation because, you know, whether"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "that's reputation management or"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "reputation targeting,"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "squeeze on people to to settle and not"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "[ __ ] mess with it,"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "but in a legal way, which is is"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "surprisingly easier than you would"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "think. Well, it's it's probably"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "surprisingly it's surprising that some"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "of it's legal maybe is uh would would be"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "the big surprise for a lot of"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "Yeah. The movies make it look like the"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "movies make it look like you're going to"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "go knock on someone's door with a bat on"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "your shoulder when in reality all you"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "need like everybody when you get to the"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "place where you're dealing with people"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "who have $5 million net worth or more."}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "Once you hit that contingent of people,"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "there's always something they're trying"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "to hide. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "And what sucks is it's not even because"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "those people are nefarious. It's because"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "somewhere along the lines they hired"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "somebody who they didn't scrutinize"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "closely enough and that person [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "up. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "So that way you can go to, you know,"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "somebody who's suing you over AB and C"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "and you can say, \"Hey, this company"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "president of a company that you own did"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "this and it's on your ass. Do you really"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "want to make this part of what bring"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "what comes up in litigation?\""}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "Yeah. So on the on the reputation side"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "then you guys kind of do each side of"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "the coin. like you can help people"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "protect it or you can expose it if it's"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "somebody that they're trying to hire and"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "vice versa."}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "Correct. And and the raise the the you"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "can see why that's valuable."}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "Oh yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "But one of the things that's really"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "critical is uh you know just like we"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "were saying those high net worth"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "individuals who made one bad decision in"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "the past whether they did it themselves"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "or whether they hired somebody who made"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "a bad decision."}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "They want to find a way to derisk that."}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "It's still discoverable. But for"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "example, there's a difference between"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "the open web and the deep web, right?"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "And and if I'm boring, you tell me. But"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "this is the kind of geeky [ __ ] that I"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "like that gets me excited."}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "The open web is the internet that is"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "actively indexed. So when you type"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "something into Google or Yahoo or"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "Duck.Go or wherever, right, Safari,"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "you're what you're doing is you're"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "putting a search term in there that goes"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "up against a giant index of keywords"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "that was that was scrubbed by the web"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "crawlers for that search engine. That's"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "all considered open web. It means the"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "information was put on a web page that"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "was not protected that was um available"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "for a web spider to to scrub. In"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "addition to that, there's also something"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "called the deep web. And the deep web is"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "not the dark web. The dark web is the"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "illegal place where you buy marijuana"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "and children and panthers in that order."}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "We're all at the same time."}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "We're all at the same time. But uh"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "Friday night for Mike Tyson"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "and a pigeon or two. But uh but the deep"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "web is still the legal open internet but"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "it's the web that's covered that's"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "protected by state laws, municipal laws,"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "etc. So for example, your housing record"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "is listed somewhere. Your taxes, how"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "much you pay, your name, your address,"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "your voting record, your voting history,"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "all of that is public information that"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "lives on the deep web behind a Texas"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "government protected website. So the web"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "crawlers on Safari and Google can't go"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "there, but it's still available on the"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "open internet. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "Well, the only way that you can get"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "information off the deep web is one to"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "know how to find it, and then two to"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "have approved access to get it, which"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "usually falls to attorneys and"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "background check investigation"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "companies, etc., etc. So, even just the"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "idea of an open web and a deep web, I'm"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "shocked how many people don't know that"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "exists. They think there's deep web and"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "dark web. That's it. There's there's or"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "they think there's open internet and"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "dark internet. There's a whole gigantic"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "chunk of available information that"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "lives in between."}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "Yeah. Um, I'm curious with the uh I"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "don't know if you saw that um phone that"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "Eric Prince's company came up with, the"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "UP phone or I don't know what the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "it's called, but would something like"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "that prove um problematic for you guys"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "to geoence or to uh track somebody's"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "um you know activity online, etc. Or is"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "it still there's always ways around"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "finding where people have been and all"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "that?"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "The answer is yes to both. For sure. It"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "makes it more difficult, right? you when"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "you have hardened phones which is what"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "Eric Prince's company came up with and"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "other companies have come up with"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "hardened phones before that we"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "circle phone and a bunch of"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "different we we support we have uh have"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "active partners in the harden phoned you"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "know hardened cellular world where we"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "promote them and sell their products to"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "our clients to make sure that they have"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "that protection against nefarious"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "actors. So, um, without going, you know,"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "into super boring details, the idea of a"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "of, um, an open phone versus a hardened"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "phone, it's not about the phone or the"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "operating system as much as it's about"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "what permissions are put on that phone."}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "The best hardened phones prevent you"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "from even saying yes to an app that"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "would let you disclose your location."}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "That's the best kind of hardened phone."}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "But what we find is a lot of times users"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "even when they have that phone in their"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "hand, I have I have a client in"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "California who has a hardened phone and"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "it's such a pain in the ass to use it,"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "just doesn't use it."}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "He just doesn't use it. I'll use that."}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "Yep. Yep. And every time every time I'm"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "there with with one or two of my other"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "support partners, he always says the"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "same thing. He's like, \"I have the"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "phone. I hate using it. It doesn't work"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "the way I want it to work, right? Like"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "it takes too long for me to send this or"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "send that and people can't reach me, so"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "I don't even use it.\" And we're like,"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "\"Hey, that's your prerogative.\" Yeah."}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "Yeah. I mean, it's like concealed carry"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "and having a really intrusive alarm"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "system in your house. Yeah. It's a pain"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "in the ass. You trip it or you forget to"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "set it or you know what, you know, I"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "mean, or carrying like there's places"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "that it's problematic to carry in or"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "it's a pain in the ass. It's"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "uncomfortable. Yeah. I mean, I I"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "certainly get all that."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "All people are socially awkward. Let's I"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "mean,"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "that's a good point."}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "Come on. Just because an extrovert is"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "out there talking a lot doesn't mean"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "that they don't create plenty of awkward"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "moments."}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "But yeah, but they don't care about it."}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "But they don't care about them. Exactly."}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "Because they're just rolling through all"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "of a sudden. It's like, you know, it's"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "like it's like when you eat uh think"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "about the chips in a bag of chips."}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "Right. You pour yourself a bowl of"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "chips."}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "Some of those chips don't taste really"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "good, right? You got the burnt chip and"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "you got the chip that looks like it"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "might have been mutilated and like the"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "chip that still has the eye on it,"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "right? But you just eat it and you're"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "like, \"That didn't taste great.\" But"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "then you eat the next one, you're like,"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "\"Nope, they're good still.\" And that's"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "just kind that's how an extrovert rolls."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "But you are so right. You are so right."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "Introverts are the people who rule the"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "world. And introverts, frankly speaking,"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "are the people who should rule the world"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "because there's so much work to be done"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "in groups,"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "but there's so much more work that has"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "to be done in private. And you can't"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "count on an extrovert to do work in"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "private because an extrovert needs other"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "people in order to gain their energy."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "Yeah. So when an extrovert goes to their"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "room at the end of the day alone and"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "they pull out a book, they don't get"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "more than four or five pages in the book"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "before they put the book down and pick"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "up a phone and watch a movie or start"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "watching YouTube or go to sleep because"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "they they need to rely on something"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "external to energize them. I am an"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "extrovert. I am fully guilty of this."}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "But introverts when they are alone, they"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "can just go for hours. They are they are"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "actually deriving energy as they focus"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "on what they're learning as they"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "complete the project they're writing as"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "they you know whatever it might be that"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "they're doing they're developing they're"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "actually creating their own energy and"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "that's why CIA recruits so heavily"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "from introverted people I'm convinced"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "the whole reason we have psyche bowels"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "is so that they can find people who are"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "exactly the right combination of"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "introvert"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "with extrovert abilities."}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "Right. An introvert who's capable of 4"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "hours playing craps in a casino in a"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "tuxedo looking fancy, sounding great,"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "but still has the ability to go back to"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "their office that night at 1:00 in the"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "morning and spend the next 6 hours"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "writing reports and not fall asleep and"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "not cut corners and not make false"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "statements."}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "Exactly. And so because you and I see"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "this truth about introverts working for"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "the CIA, um that's what brought up the"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "idea of courage because what I wonder if"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "what's behind the question is, you know,"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "am I am I too shy to go out? Am I too"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "shy to, you know, I maybe I feel like"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "I'm introverted and I feel too awkward"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "to go to these events or to sit with a"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "person for two hours in a meeting. CIA"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "believes that all people are born with a"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "spy secret superpower. For some people,"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "that means they can win deals. For"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "others, they can spot liars. Some can"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "even seduce lovers. I built a free 3inut"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "test to help reveal to you exactly what"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "your secret hidden superpower is. All"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "you have to do is click on the link in"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "the description below, take the test,"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "and start using your spy superpower to"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "stay ahead of 99% of people. Um, and so"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "in my mind, it's not that, you know,"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "being introverted isn't, you know, is an"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "asset, right? Being courageous is maybe"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "what you need to be working towards,"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "That's awesome. That's awesome, girl."}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "Yeah. I I think you are you are nailing"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "this idea because the the biggest"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "problem with introverts, the thing that"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "most introverts that we've met lack"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "is really just courage."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "Yeah. Because as an introvert there are"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "especially if so here's here's kind of"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "the order of events right if you're an"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "introvert then for a long time you've"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "kind of shied away from because you're"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "not naturally disposed to putting"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "yourself into social situations"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "right"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "the social situations that you have gone"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "into have drained your energy because it"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "takes a lot of energy to be social. So"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "when your energy gets drained, you start"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "to feel very self-conscious about the"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "fact that you look and feel different"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "than everybody else in the group. That"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "over years, right, from the time of"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "being a child to the time that you're an"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "adult, having that happen to you over"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "and over again starts to create a level"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "of anxiety."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "So then you start to become anxious"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "about going into social settings because"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "you already know at some point you're"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "going to tap out. And then when you want"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "to tap out and nobody else wants to tap"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "out, you're going to feel self-conscious"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "and that creates that anxiety, that"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "flywheel that just spins in your head,"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "Y."}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "So then as an adult to avoid the"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "anxiety, you avoid the social group and"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "then you lean into your introversion and"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "you start to ask yourself the questions"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "like this person is asking like, is"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "there something wrong with me?"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "Do do I have less opportunity than an"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "extrovert? Will I be less successful"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "than an extrovert? And the reason I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "going through this whole step-by-step"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "sequence is because I've seen it with"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "you. You and I are working on working"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "very much on it to make sure it does not"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "happen to the introvert in our family,"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "right? Our son, even though our daughter"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "shows huge introvert tendencies."}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "But we're working on it by helping our"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "children to understand what it means to"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "actually want to be alone versus what it"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "means to want to be with people. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "But more than that, your point about"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "courage is critical here because if that"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "same introvert suffering from anxiety,"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "suffering from the fear of social"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "awkwardness, feeling like some kind of"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "social outcast or feeling like they're"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "losing opportunity because of their"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "introversion. All that person has to do"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "is be strong in the face of that fear"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "and go put themselves in a social"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "situation. That's all they have to do."}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "Yeah. And if they can make a plan for"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "how they're going to leave early. You"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "just did this. You just did this"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "recently when you went to go visit my"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "cousin. You sent me a message and you"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "were like, you were like, Andy, I'm"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "going to go visit your cousin. I'm"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "taking the kids. We're going to get"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "there at lunch. I'm going to leave by"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "4:00. I'm not going to let myself get"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "into a situation where my energy gets"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "drained out of me because of all the"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "craziness in the house. Right."}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "Exactly."}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "That's all an introvert needs to do. And"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "they can they can enter into a scenario"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "that used to cause them anxiety and they"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "can actually conquer that situation."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "We were taught at CIA that even though you might rationalize that the objective"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "is within the authority or control of the most powerful person that controls"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "an organization or the most powerful person that controls a company or a government that in reality the actual"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "decision makers are two, three, sometimes many many steps removed from that one senior leader. So whether"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "you're talking about a president of a country or a CEO, this idea of looking at the people who are accessible rather"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "than trying to beat your head against the wall approaching the person who is not accessible."}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "Thank you for being on this podcast with me because today is one of those days"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "where I really don't want to record. I know."}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "We went back and forth this morning via text like, \"Oh, we should really do this"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "today.\" And I we're in different places, so it's like different things affecting us right"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "now. So, what what makes today hard for you? Oh my gosh. So, a couple of things. First, it is freezing cold here. I woke"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "up and it's 9\u00b0 in New Mexico where we are currently filming for the History Channel show."}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "That sounds awesome. And then my whole lower body is sore because I had a big leg workout two days ago."}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "So two days ago. So it's not even like second day soreness. It's like third day soreness now. And the cold just makes it"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "that much worse. And then Oh yeah. And then it's like and I had other calls this morning and other"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "podcast interviews this morning. So even though it's you know almost it's a little bit afternoon um mountain time."}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "Yeah. I mean I've been on a camera. I've talked my butt off and my butt's sore"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "and I'm freezing cold. So, those are all my complaints. Thank you for caring. Why? Why don't Oh, you got some real"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "problems on your side, huh? I have life problems. You know, the one of the kids is sick, so I stayed up late"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "with one of them and then I was woken up at 5:30 by the other one who's sick today. Um, and I'm pretty sure, you"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "know, I'm just I'm prepping all of my immunity soups and juices and all these"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "things because, you know, it's just going to go through all of us. So, I prep all my food when one kid gets sick"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "in preparation for me to be too sick to cook anymore. So, you know, it's fine. But"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "you put on such a strong face, man, because sick kids are hard. Yeah. And, you know, it's funny. It's"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "when it first h when they first come down with the symptoms, there's always this moment of like more than moments of"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "anxiety where I'm like, \"Oh my gosh, like the kids are sick. I have stuff to do.\" You know, I'm, you know, my nanny"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "is going on vacation. Like, I'm going to be here by myself. Um, but then after about an hour of those thoughts, I'm"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "like, you know what? We really don't have to do anything. I can literally"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "order my groceries through Instacart and, you know, somebody else can do that for me. I don't have to leave my house."}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "I can call off on work. You know, I'm I am blessed enough to be in a position"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "where when the kids when the, you know, virus rolls through the house, we can just nest, right, and take care of each"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "other and take care of our health and the food and the rest is the most important. So, and then that makes me"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "feel better because this is just a part of life, right? I mean, this is going around. I know so many people who have been sick in the last two weeks."}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "Yeah. But I mean, you know, what's interesting to me is the uh we are blessed for sure"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "and and I know a lot of the folks out there who we work with and who we're friends with and who work with us and"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "who are friends with us, they also will claim that they are also blessed, right? Everybody works very"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "hard for the life that they have. Yeah. But for the vast majority of of of our peers, our friends, our family, the"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "people that we that we the people that we really get along with, well, they work hard to build a life for their"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "family. Yeah. It's not like they're chasing fame or chasing career or chasing anything like that. Like they're very proud of their"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "hard work, but they're doing it for someone else. They're doing it for the ones they love, right? So, when the ones you love end up"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "being the ones that get hurt or get ignored or overlooked"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "in the process of you building your career, especially when they're sick. Yeah. Like, our son is sick right now."}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "I'm thousands of miles away, which is heart wrecking enough to me to be not there to help him. I also can't"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "really help you. I mean, I saw him this morning on our video call this morning. Yeah. Yeah, cuz he was calling to you for help and I"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "was talking to you and I see his poor sweaty face and like you just see he's"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "not happy and my heart just broke because I want to be there for him. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "And I want to be there for you. And uh we're not the only parents who feel that way. And there's parents who have to go"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "into work and leave behind one adult and and a sick child. And there's parents"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "who who are on the road. There's military parents. Oh my gosh. Who are gone for months at a time."}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the struggle is real, right? We all we all experience it. And"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "so, I just, you know, I I allow my h myself to have the, you know, the moment of panic, but then I try to remind"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "myself that this is something everybody goes through. We make it, you know, just"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "try to make the best decisions. Live. I think I told you I was living hour by hour right now. Like I'm in there"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "checking on him every hour, taking his temperature, like just seeing how it goes."}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "We'll see how this one hour goes of recording. Huh. Yeah, exactly. Well, you look beautiful. I mean, you"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "don't look like you're you don't look like you're overwhelmed by a a house in disarray right now."}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. That's uh that's some just a hairbrush magic going on."}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "This is not what I look like. my favorite shirts, too. Your shirt looks fantastic. That's a I don't often get a"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "chance to really like appreciate uh some of our new designs, so that's pretty cool. We've got to come up with a"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "way of actually getting these out to people because people ask for the t-shirts all the time. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "And I think we're being very selfish just wearing them to ourselves, you know. And it's funny. I was just thinking like it's cool. it. So, I'm in"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "Florida and it's cool enough now that I can wear these like 3/4length shirts in the studio and you know it feels great."}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "Um, but I think when you sent me you sent me like a screenshot of your temperature this morning and it was like 11 degrees and then I sent you a"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "screenshot of mine and it was 71. Oh, sorry."}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "Yeah, there is I we don't have everyday spy gear that we've created yet that can handle the 11\u00b0 outside. We've gotten"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "pretty good. I think we're good to like 40\u00b0, but we've got to we've got to come up with an Arctic solution for our brand, my love."}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "Yes, we need some like everyday spy adventure gear. That's what we need. Yeah. Oh, I like the way that sounds."}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "You know, it's funny because we've been in we've been in discussions now uh as we've been preparing for the next year."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "Our company's growing quickly and we've been in discussions with a couple of different people about how and where to"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "expand and we're expanding in multiple different sectors, right? the corporate sector, formal education se sector as"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "well as, you know, our existing kind of direct to consumer sector. And one thing"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "that's kind of come up over and over again with the people that we are that we are working with is the idea of kind"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "of, you know, they want to rush to the top. They want to talk to like the biggest"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "most important decision maker and and have it go in their favor, right? That's"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "like you and I going direct to the top of whatever uh Mountain Hardware or"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "Arcterics or Patagonia and then being like, \"Hey, we want to have Everyday Spy"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "Adventure Gear, Mr. CEO of Patagonia, and we want you to bless it.\" Yeah. And it just doesn't work that way. We've"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "had success with people partnering with us, but it has never been by jumping to the head of the line."}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "Yeah. CIA believes that all people are born with a spy secret superpower. For some"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "people, that means they can win deals. For others, they can spot liars. Some can even seduce lovers. I built a free"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "3inut test to help reveal to you exactly what your secret hidden superpower is."}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "All you have to do is click on the link in the description below, take the test, and start using your spy superpower to"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "stay ahead of 99% of people. Yeah, it's funny because I've actually in the last two weeks had two separate"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "conversations, two different people. They don't know each other, completely different topics, you know, that we were"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "discussing. And both of them brought up the idea, you know, they were we were,"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "you know, people like to ask me about targeting and they were talking about, you know, networking and targeting and,"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "you know, people that they wanted to approach but that were seemingly impossible to approach or to kind of"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "bring onto their side. And the truth of the matter is that you know in"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "intelligence you don't like you very rarely go for the top guy because they"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "are unapproachable right I mean they got to that you know they got into that position by playing a game by being"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "hawkish right so they're not going to be easily swayed and that's okay like the"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "guy who you think has the most who you think has the most information and probably does have the most information it's okay that they're not approachable."}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "And it's okay that they're not your actual target because often times you have to look around them and see who has"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "influence in that over that person or in that area and or who else has access."}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "Right. Right. So yeah, I just I thought it was really interesting because it's come up a couple of times now and I think you"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "know people um you know it would be great for people to be able to understand to broaden their target set,"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "right? I mean even if you're looking to date somebody, right? Maybe you can't"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "approach that super hot guy or girl directly."}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "Maybe you approach them through like their group of friends or through something that they like to do. It's a roundabout approach to get access, to"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "get to know them better, to be in front of them, right? like the director. It's the whole reason It's the whole"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "reason cosplay exists. Yeah. So that so that we can go to a nerd"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "convention and see all the girls dressed in these smoking hot little cosplay"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "outfits and immediately identify which ones uh are possibly a little bit freaky"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "instead of meeting them in a bar where everybody's wearing winter gear because it's freezing cold outside and you have"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "no idea which ones are a little bit freaky. Well, so where are the ladies supposed to see these guys in their, you"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "know, in the revealing costumes? Because the cosplay costumes I've seen for guys are wicked, but like completely I mean,"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "those aren't their real muscles in those costumes. I'm just put out there."}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "Well, I think cosplay serves two different purposes for women and men. It's like Halloween. Halloween serves"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "two different purposes for women and men. For men, it's a chance for them to show what they're into. Like like all"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "the men who dress up like the ghost from Scream. Uhhuh. And all the men who dress up like you"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "know uh you name the the the anime character that they show up as"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "with their crazy Japanese anime hair and their foam swords. Yes. Right. It's a chance for men to express their their"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "like secret nerdy side whether they're nerdy about horror flicks or nerdy about about anime"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "in a safe setting. And and and like I can I can tell you as a man when you dress up in cosplay and you go to a"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "convention, you are secretly hoping that some like beautiful, stellar, amazing,"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "intelligent woman is going to walk up to you and be like, \"Oh, you're really into"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "Pikachu, too. I love Pikachu.\" And then you'll be like, and then you know the gates of heaven open and you have the"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "most amazing sex with a woman who can talk Pikachu all day long. Like you That's what we're secretly hoping for."}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "What is a woman dressed in a revealing, skimpy, sexy fairy outfit at at a"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "cosplay convention? What is she secretly hoping for?"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "You know, I'm only speaking from my own perspective. But maybe it's meeting another woman in a scandaly class."}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "That's just me, though. I don't know. But what's the goal there? Is the goal there because you're like, you look cute"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "and sexy. I look cute and sexy. Aren't fairies cool? Or is it like is it because you're looking for a girlfriend?"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "Guys are always looking for a partner. Guys are always looking for a hookup. You know, it's it's funny you bring this"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "up because this touches on something else that I've I was recently talking to somebody, you"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "know, and that I was being asked questions about targeting, but something else where, you know, when just like you"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "said, you have a target. Maybe you have a specific one, like a specific person, but maybe your target is like a hot"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "person, right? A hot person that I want to date. Maybe that's the target. You just don't know exactly who it is yet."}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "But part of that strategy of putting yourself in something that you can"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "relate to, right? It can't be something that like if you don't like blue cheese and you go to a blue cheese conference"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "to meet somebody, like that is not going to work in your favor. But if you like comic books and anime and stuff and you"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "know and you're like this year I'm going to really get into it to be able to go to these co you know whatever like or"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "you you enjoy chess but you're not a nerd about chess but you're like you know what I'm going to go to this chess"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "conference because I want to meet somebody like that's a great tactic"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "because you're putting yourself just a little bit outside of your comfort zone but you're putting yourself into"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "somebody else's comfort zone right you're putting yourself into somebody else's interest"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "and it's really really a great tactic to connect with people like for no matter"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "you know so I can see that I lost you on the cosplay conversation I was really excited to hear about why why you would"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "talk to a half- naked fairy but I can see that we're not going to get there today"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "so we can talk in more specifics about work for now hopefully when the cameras turn off we'll have a different"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "conversation but well when you take me to the next uh Mega Con there we go I we We got to up our con"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "game, too, because right, you know, going to a convention with a 10-year-old seriously limits the types of adult"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "activities that you can participate in at a convention, but that's all right. So let me so let's let's get into some"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "of these examples because I think this is a really interesting conversation because we were taught at CIA that"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "you're pursuing an objective. And even though you might rationalize"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "that the objective is within the authority or control of the most"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "powerful person that controls an organization or the most powerful person that controls a company or a government."}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "that in reality the actual decision makers the real the real uh mechanics"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "who make something possible are are two three sometimes many many steps removed from that one senior leader"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "so whether you're talking about a president of a country or a CEO or you know the the sheriff of a of a local"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "police force whatever it might be it's always going to be difficult to reach that person in many ways the"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "organization is intentionally built in a where people can't reach that person,"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "right? We're restructuring everyday spy specifically so that people can't reach"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "me as the CEO without first going through a certain chain of command. Right? So I am being intentionally"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "removed from certain levels to make sure that you know a an advertiser, an"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "insurance salesman or whatever that they can't find me directly. They have to go through our structure and and submit a"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "form and talk to the president and etc etc. So, one example that immediately jumps"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "to mind for me is we are working on a book project with a major publisher and"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "and as we were going through the skeleton outline of that book, the"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "publisher immediately jumped on this specific topic. Yeah. And and the editor representing"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "the publisher was talking about this misnomer that's out there where people believe that like they have to go"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "straight for the jugular and they have to go straight like if you want a promotion you have to go straight for"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "like your boss or if you want uh if you want to make a sale you got to go straight to the person who's in charge"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "of you know the company or whatever else. Yeah. And uh and the idea that we had shown her with Everyday Spy and with the way"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "that we were taught at the agency, she thought that there was incredible um editorial value in this idea of looking"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "at the network that feeds the decisions up. Yes. looking at the people who are in a"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "position of influence, looking at the people who have a responsibility, looking at the people who are accessible"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "rather than trying to to beat your head against a wall approaching the person who is not accessible,"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "right? And I think oftentimes, you know, if it's career related in an in an office setting, um I think oftentimes"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "people are trying to shine the brightest for the top person. But the truth is just like you said, you have to take a"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "step back and look at the entire network and see, you know, you have to you have"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "to get a sense first of who the players are, what their roles are, you know, how"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "influential or powerful, you know, are the the different people on the team and in your organization because then you"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "can target the right person. You can impress the right person, right? And you and there's uh you know something you"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "talk about about um I think you've maybe in one of your podcasts before you've talked about you know being average you"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "know um like you don't have to be the brightest shining star to get the"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "attention. You can blend in and be the most reliable person for the the for"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "your immediate boss or the most reliable person for the person who has the most influence on your team. And that is"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "going to get you further than trying to be a showboat for the top leader."}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "Right. Yeah. The uh you know there's an example that that uh a specific example"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "that comes to mind also. So Everyday Spy just signed a an agreement with going"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "back to our Everyday Spy adventure gear. We just signed an agreement with a major"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "clothing brand that does extreme weather gear. Nice. Right. and we we're still under NDA. We"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "haven't like we can't announce who they are yet, but we'll start we'll start sharing it and you'll start getting gear"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "from them and I'll start getting gear from them and many of the people that we work with will start getting gear from them. But it's a very exciting deal."}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "All our outside because you're going to make me put that gear to use."}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "But the way that we got that deal was not by going to the CEO of the"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "company, right? Not even close. Right. The way that we got that deal was a"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "low-level manager who was connected to another low-level manager who act who"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "really liked what we stood for and what we share with the world and they like our story and our brand and our image"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "and everything like that. At that lowest level, they introduced me to the right"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "decision maker who was one spot above them. So like in the hierarchy of"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "corporate America, we're not even close to being in like the executive suite of characters. We're not even close to"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "being in the senior division level of characters. We are literally a, you know, two or three steps removed from"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "even just the director of marketing. Mhm. But the right person with the right"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "influence on the director of marketing who has the the right influence on, you"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "know, the director of of uh whatever it might be, you know, all the way up to the vice president, the president of the"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "company, all the people who have to approve on partnering with a brand like ours, they all said yes. Even though"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "they didn't talk to me, the only person that talked to me was this lower level manager. And that's exactly what we're"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "talking about when we when we explain that you don't want to go to the person"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "that you think is the decision maker, right? Because that person is often unaccessible. I couldn't get to the"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "president of this clothing company if I wanted to. Right? But by getting to a manager who"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "has just enough influence in a specific sector that their influence flows up,"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "now all of a sudden we've essentially gotten approval from six or seven different decision makers without them"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "ever actually talking to us. Yeah. And I think, you know, when it comes to business and career, this is"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "probably the most clearly applicable in those areas, but it can also be used"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "personally as well. you know, in relationships and with friends, with family. Um, you know, I just think about"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "our relationship and if somebody wanted to have a decision made in our household, you know, who would they"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "approach? Me or you or the kids? Honestly, right? Like I mean if somebody"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "took a a snapshot of the you know the how we relate to each other in our"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "fourperson family who would be the person that you know has the most access"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "to make a decision happen right and it probably depends on the decision also but these are these are totally"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "applicable in so many scenarios. There's a lot of families that are getting ready to have a Christmas you"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "know a Christmas gift opening day. Yes. that's influenced by the advertisers who are advertising"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "to their children on whatever, you know, TV shows or streaming shows or game"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "platforms where their kids are seeing those ads. Like there's going to be a lot of Pokemon gifts. There's going to be a lot"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "of uh you know, I don't even know what else are the kids what else are our kids into right now?"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "Pokemon, Minecraft, um Deadpool, Legos. Legos."}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're we we are literally there are f millions of families are going to be influenced"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "because their kids were influenced. Yeah. So Christmas will look like what the kids wanted to look like because the"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "kids were influenced by some sort of marketer or some sort of advertisement. Right. So it's exactly what we're"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "talking about. One of uh one of our close clients who works for uh a government organization came to us with"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "a similar challenge. Right. He was talking to you about that. Yeah. He um he works in um I I don't"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "want to out him. So he works he works in a field where he uh tries to get contracts. He's kind of a middleman um"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "and he tries to get contracts with uh different organizations for other people. Um and he wanted there was this"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "one particular um company that he was trying to get a contract with and he wanted to he was asking me you know"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "what's the best way to approach this the the leader who is a woman and she's just"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "a hard ass right and I just can't see an end with her and after talking about it"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "for a while I was like well who is she always with like who's who's the second in command who's the decision like you"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "know she's the ultimate sign off but who else has influence? Um, and he was able to name somebody right away. And I was"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "like, that's the person you need to learn about. That's the person you should be courting, right? That's the"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "person that ultimately will have the influence on the person above, right?"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "Because they're going to, you know, you build that relationship, that rapport with them, that social capital with"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "them, and then when you go to cash that social capital in, they are the ones who are going to make the push for you,"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "right? just like, you know, it'd be great to get the top person and I'm not saying you can't do"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "that, but the amount of time you would spend trying to do that and the the"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "probability that that would work, it's just not worth it, right? Yeah. You see the you see this mistake"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "being made in media all the time right now, too. If you read headlines on any major news"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "platform, what you're going to read is about the leaders of countries. You'll hear Biden's name, Netanyahu's name,"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "Zalinski's name, Putin's name, Xiinping's name. You hear the names of these world leaders"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "as if they themselves are the decision makers. Yeah. When they are really the signing"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "authorities, all the decision makers are beneath them, right? Two, three, four steps beneath"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "them. There's advisors who tell Biden what to do. There's advisors who"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "literally write the words that Biden is going to say at a news conference."}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "And the same thing is true for all these world leaders. So what ends up happening is, you know, we attack and we criticize"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "or we follow these headlines that attack and criticize these various world leaders and people start to think that"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "they're the problem. And they also sometimes think that they're the solution. If only we had Trump. If only"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "we had Dantis. If only we had Biden. like no there those people are far less"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "powerful than you actually think they are. Yeah. And one of the things that's critical in any kind of foreign intelligence"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "operation is understanding that if you want to influence someone at the senior level,"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "you you don't target them. You target the person who's two, three, four steps removed from them, but who has influence"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "over that person. Exactly. Yeah. It's really all about the the access and the influence. That's"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "what you're looking for. Those are the two two things you're looking for in a person um that you're you're targeting"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "for a specific result, right? You're looking for the their access and their influence to get what what end goal you"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "want, right? That's what it is. And the other thing that's interesting is a lot of times the people who are at those lower levels have points where"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "they are also accessible. Yeah. Right. Those are people who carry vulnerabilities. Those are people who"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "carry, you know, personal challenges because they carry the weight of their responsibility, of their authority,"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "right? The adviser to Biden, the advisers to Netanyahu, the advisers to Xiinping, they carry a tremendous amount"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "of stress and pressure. Yeah. But they don't carry any of the glory or the financial benefits or whatever else"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "that come from being at the seniormost position. Yeah. So they're always kind of stuck in"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "that high stress situation where they have tons of demands and tons of"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "vulnerabilities and that's what makes them so uniquely suited to any kind of"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "intelligence operation because if you're if you want to know who needs a friendly hand or a friendly"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "ear or if you want to know who needs a stiff drink or if you want to know who needs a prostitute or if you want to"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "know who needs a day off, it's those people. Mhm. And if you can be the one that shows up"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "with their preferred alcohol or their preferred body type or their preferred, you know, vice, all of a sudden you'll"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "make a friend very quickly with somebody who has a great deal of influence and very few friends."}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "Yeah. And I mean, you can see, you know, a really great example was just in the news, and we don't know a lot about the"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "case yet, but the the Department of State gentleman who was, you know, who"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "has been um, you know, a complaint has been filed against him for spying for Cuba for decades. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "he's really interesting to look at because he he manifests what we're"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "talking about right now. He got he rose in the ranks of state department but he"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "wasn't always an ambassador. He started out as a lower level person and he was"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "he's been I mean according to the according to the complaint he's been"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "spying for Cuba for so long decades that he was very low level. I mean when I was"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "doing the math on his age I think he he was in his early 20s when he was approached. Right. I mean the beginning"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "of his career. So he is the accessible person. He is the person that you know"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "and it's not clear yet whether he was where whether ideology is what pushed"}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "him or whether there was something else in the beginning and maybe ideology came afterwards. Um but you know he was"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "definitely at that vulnerable place very early in his career and he was the right"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "mix of person that they were able to groom him over the years. I was actually just reading,"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "funny enough, I was reading a sci-fi novel named Hyperion, and it was the exact same story with one of the"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "characters in the book. So, this is age-old espionage, right? Age old espionage."}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "Somebody goes in at a lower level and works their way up, sacrificing really,"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "especially if they're ideologically driven. sacrificing along the way,"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "supporting somebody who they really don't support because they're actively working against them at the same time."}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "Yeah. What you're talking about here is the uh the gentleman who was recently making headlines um potentially because"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "he could be the oldest, longestr running espionage case against the United States"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "ever, right? So 40 plus years of service in the federal government while suspic"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "suspected to be a Cuban mole the entire time. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "Which is incredible. Just an incredible streak, right? But and you know all of"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "the all of the all of the relevant parts about this conversation that talk about how he was junior when he was recruited"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "and how he was ideologically like all of that aside. Mhm. How freaking good are the Cubans?"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "Oh yeah. At human intelligence. Nobody realizes it. Nobody ever talks about how good the Cubans are."}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "The Cubans are so good at this because they're as a country they're basically broke. M"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "but they have this strong ideology and they have a fantastic way of finding other people who share that like"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "socialist ideology about you know if we can all work together, we can all make the world a"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "better place. And it's incredible because that ideology really is what drives a lot of young politically minded"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "Yes. uh government service professionals especially in democracies. Yes. So in the UK, in France, in"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "Germany, in the US, in Canada, right, our junior level officers are all very"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "much, they all very much believe in the greater good and serving a nation and making the world a better place. And the"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "Cubans know how to find and just tap into that ideology and turn people into reporting sources."}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "Yeah, absolutely. I totally agree with you. the Cuban intelligence service is so good and because and they have this"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "just like you're saying they have this really interesting methodology that works for"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "them because they're able to export this ideology which is so fascinating and"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "there's somebody that you know when was the last time before that article came out when was the last time your average"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "American thought about Cuba probably I mean the the whole like well how often do you think about Rome like people"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "probably think about Rome more often than they about Cuba. But the truth is that Cuban Cuba and Cuban intelligence"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "have a way of infiltrating under under the radar other countries in various"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "ways because there's there's you can look up news articles about how they've infiltrated Venezuela as well, right?"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "The influence that they've had there. So they influence in this way where they're"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "kind of like that that rotting apple at the bottom of the barrel that nobody really notices until it's too late."}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "Until suddenly you see five other rotting apples and you realize that they've had their hand in it, right?"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "They've been the whole time the whole time behind the scenes and nobody noticed."}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "Yeah. The most famous former Cuban spy against the United States is Anna Montes. And every 10ish years you'll see"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "a new article about Anna Montes. Um, and what was what's really fascinating is that, you know, at the same time that"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "her case was running, there was another Cuban intelligence penetration of the State Department,"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "right? His name was William something. I always forget his last name. I'm pretty sure it"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "was William something. An older gentleman. He and his wife. So for this period of time during the Clinton"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "administration like n early 90s anamontes who was"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "penetrated it was a pen a Cuban penetration of DIA with this gentleman I forget his name"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "right now William something or other who was a penetration of state department and then that gentleman's wife who was"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "also at state department essentially all Cuban policy decisions that were being reported to President"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "Clinton were coming from these three Yeah. Perfect example of what we're talking"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "about where the Cubans found someone at a very low level. Yes. Who had a great deal of influence over"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "the policy maker, President Clinton. Cubans could never convert President Clinton."}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "Because like no intelligence service is going to have real success converting a sitting president."}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "Right. Right. Like and this is one of the things that drives me crazy about all the conversations about Donald Trump."}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "What is Donald Trump a source of of the Russian intelligence service? If he was,"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "if he is, it's because they found him decades ago when he was a, you know, a a"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "a low-level business person or even a an aspiring uh business person who was trying to make ends meet. That's how"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "that's how intelligence works. Intelligence doesn't work in like, you know, they some some rich guy approaches"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "some other rich guy and they shake hands and have a cigar and all of a sudden they're committing espionage, right? It has to be, you know, something like"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "decades old before it gets to that level. Just like we saw with this gentleman who's who's now under in a uh"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "a complaint, an indictment, I'm not sure what the right word is, uh currently for potentially spying for 40 years and"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "being a penetration of the US Department of State. Yeah, there's a big difference between espionage and influence, right? And"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "people at the higher levels can be influenced, but it doesn't mean that they're committing espionage, right?"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "It's a whole different ball game, right? Exactly. So, you know, does do do"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "look at President Biden for crying out loud. President President Bh president President Biden is under criticism for"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "being influenced by Chinese companies just like Donald Trump was in under"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "criticism for being influenced by relationships with oligarchs and Barack Obama was under criticism for being"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "influenced by big lobbyists. Like of influence is not illegal. Right."}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "Right. Corruption is illegal. Espionage is illegal. But influence is not."}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "Influence is how the whole world works. Whether you're trying to get a promotion in your job or whether you're trying to change the future foreign policy of a"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "country. Right now, Taiwan is in the final few days before they go to the"}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "polls to elect a new president. Yes. And the whole well not the whole world"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "because most of the world doesn't even care or know that Taiwan's going through an election right now but we care but everybody who's everybody who's"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "watching China Taiwan yes is sitting there waiting to see"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "will China successfully influence the elections"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "in such a way that the ruling DPP separatist party is replaced by a"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:34", "text": "pro-China party right and even more than that there's a chance that the that the"}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "current separatist government at in Taiwan who wants to separate from China, there's a chance that they'll actually"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:45", "text": "be replaced by a unity government made up of two other political parties who"}, {"start": "00:36:45", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "have never gotten along ever. But but might actually work together because of Chinese influence campaigns."}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "And whether we like it or not, that's all totally legal. Yeah. That is not espionage. That is"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "influence. Yeah. And I, you know, I'm I'm a personal fan of influence. I find it"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "such a fascinating topic. Um, cuz you're twisted. I just, it's human psychology, you know,"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "and it's funny because it's human psychology. Everybody falls prey to influence. And"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "that's one of the reasons that you and I are always talking about assessments and"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "identifying the facts and looking at the data because the only way to protect yourself from influence from outside"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "influence is by doing those things by going through those processes of knowing"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "what somebody else is really talking about. Because influence is so powerful because it's so emotional generally and"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "it's so easy to just go with it because you feel it. It feels right. So we're I"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "just it's so interesting to me how masses of people can be swayed, you"}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "know, with because they because they don't take the time to protect themselves. They don't take the time to"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "seek the truth. You know, you're talking about how people can protect themselves. I'm pretty sure we had a question about"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "something similar, right? Oh, yes. So, interestingly enough, in"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:23", "text": "this festive time of year, we've gotten like four or five questions in a row"}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "where people were asking about how do you deal with hostile people, people who"}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "are condescending, people who insult you, people who intimidate you. And I"}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "just thought it was so fascinating that, you know, we're in December, multiple"}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:44", "text": "faiths have celebrations this month and those are the questions that are coming"}, {"start": "00:38:44", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "through. So yeah, I think that makes perfect sense. I think that makes perfect sense because because let's let's be honest about this"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "festive season and let's be honest about the holidays, right?"}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "Yeah. Hallmark makes us all really excited for"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "the holidays. Yeah. But we all know that that also means we have to be with our families. Not like"}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "our kids and our spouse. Mothers-in-laws and mothers and fathers-in-laws and fathers and cousins"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "and cousins-in-laws and oh my god and people who are unfortunately related to"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "us through these things right here. That's where hostility and condescension"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "and criticism and all that awkwardness comes from. And how do you deal with that? I can absolutely understand why"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "people are asking those questions right now. Those are great questions to ask right now. Well, and you know what's funny is there were a couple of"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:51", "text": "questions that that were very clearly about um what people felt like were hostile work environments, but I guess"}, {"start": "00:39:51", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "if you're looking at the end of year and you're like waiting for a bonus or you're preparing to take time off, um I"}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "can see how that would apply in the same vein, right? Where maybe your work"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "environment is a little bit hostile right now. Everybody's under stress. Maybe you're not going to get the bonus you thought. Maybe your boss doesn't"}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:15", "text": "want you to take that vacation you want. Who knows? Yeah. Yeah, it's true. So, it's funny. So, I"}, {"start": "00:40:15", "end": "00:40:20", "text": "I'll give you a personal example and and partial answer to the question from my point of view right now. So, I'm on the"}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "road in a TV shoot, right? And uh what what I learned that was really interesting and new to me is that TV"}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "shows are shot in large part by independent contractors. Mhm. So, there's a p there's a there's a uh"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "production company and that production company is a business and that production company will hire a"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:47", "text": "contractor to be the person who like creatively designs the TV show"}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "and the production company will sell the TV show idea to some sort of studio"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "whether it's Netflix or Amazon or, you know, Warner Brothers or whatever. So, it's really just a business selling a"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "product to a buyer. It's at at its base. But once this once the TV show idea is"}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "purchased, everybody who makes the show from the story editors to the cast like"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "me to the video camera operators, the audio people, the production people who make the sets and costumes and all of those"}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "people are contractors, right? Mhm. So, in our TV show, there's this"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:33", "text": "constant struggle because the one person who's most accountable to"}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:38", "text": "the production company is also the most demanding person in the"}, {"start": "00:41:38", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "show. and everybody else who's technically not a an employee."}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:51", "text": "So, who technically is like they don't have there's no boss for them, but they're constantly having to like"}, {"start": "00:41:51", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "deal with this these challenges, these conflicts with the person who's in charge of the show."}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:03", "text": "So, I've had a number of people come up to me on the show, on the set, and be like, \"Hey, how do you deal with this person?\" Because like"}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "they're condescending and they're hostile and they're aggressive and they're bossy. Like, how do you deal with it? because you're in the same boat"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "as us, right? You're cast. You got to deal with this person, too. And you know what I always tell them is that when you"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "take a minute to look at the hostile person and think through what they are being hostile about, not who are they"}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:30", "text": "being hostile to, not how are they being hostile at all."}, {"start": "00:42:30", "end": "00:42:36", "text": "If you instead think what is making them act in a hostile way, oftentimes what"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:42", "text": "you find is that you can relate, understand, and predict that person and you stop worrying about them being"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "hostile towards you. Interesting. So in our case, the person who's in charge of of delivering the final"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:56", "text": "television show, when you stop to think about the fact that they are being hostile because they've got deadlines to"}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "meet and budgets to meet and they've got, you know, 16 people who are all independent contractors who could quit"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "at any time, who could leave at any time, who could get sick, who could do a"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:13", "text": "bad job, who could drop a camera or corrupt a SIM card or who knows what."}, {"start": "00:43:13", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "Like there are so many things that could go wrong that this person is essentially choosing to micromanage in an effort to"}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:26", "text": "try to prevent things from going wrong. And once you see that, all of a sudden you realize it's not personal."}, {"start": "00:43:26", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "They're not condescending to you. They're just terrified about failing in"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:37", "text": "their job and they feel like they don't have control. That's really interesting."}, {"start": "00:43:37", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "And I I like your advice because I think that's a great first step, right? I"}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "think that's, you know, the first thing you do is put yourself into the other person's shoes and understand"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:58", "text": "what it what it is that's causing the hostility. But then what do you say to scenarios where you do that?"}, {"start": "00:43:58", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "Well, I don't you know, it's funny because the question I want to ask is what do you say about scenarios where you do that and the person's just a jerk"}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "or the person really is out to get you or the person is still hostile, you know? But then that makes me wonder if"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "you're putting yourself in the other person's shoes, will you ever come to that conclusion? Will you ever get to"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "the place where you're like, \"That person's just out to get me.\" or does that conclusion indicate that you"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:29", "text": "haven't properly understood what that other person is being hostile about?"}, {"start": "00:44:29", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "That's exactly what my experience has shown me is that anytime you land on the conclusion that this is all about me"}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "Yeah. you've missed it. You've missed it because here's the truth of it. The truth of it is nobody"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:49", "text": "cares about you as much as you do. Mhm. So if you ever land on the conclusion"}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:56", "text": "that the reason this other person is acting the way they are acting is because they just are out to get you,"}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "what you're basically saying is that you are more important than they are. And that is a violation of the first rule."}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "Because nobody cares as much about you as you do."}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "So you're missing something, right? If you think this person is out to get my job, this person is this person hates me"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:20", "text": "because I'm prettier or because I'm better at gymnastics or because I'm better at my job or they want to replace"}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:26", "text": "me or I'm too expensive for the company and they're just trying to fire me. If that's ever the conclusion that you're landing on, if you ever land on a"}, {"start": "00:45:26", "end": "00:45:32", "text": "conclusion that has to do with you personally, you're you're missing it. It's a giant warning flag that you got the wrong"}, {"start": "00:45:32", "end": "00:45:38", "text": "idea. In fact, what you need to look at is what is it that you represent? What"}, {"start": "00:45:38", "end": "00:45:43", "text": "is it that you do? What is it that you what what impact do you make? Because"}, {"start": "00:45:43", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "that's most likely what is actually threatening the other person. Interesting."}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:56", "text": "So the the only other thought this qu these this topic brings up for me because I I love your response to this,"}, {"start": "00:45:56", "end": "00:46:05", "text": "but I do know of people who are in situations and what I think they're saying when they ask this question is"}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:11", "text": "they don't feel empowered to get out. They feel like they're stuck where they are and there's hostility, but they"}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:20", "text": "can't escape. I was talking to a friend a couple of months ago who feels stuck in the job, but he keeps saying"}, {"start": "00:46:20", "end": "00:46:26", "text": "they I it would really screw them if I left. And I'm like, it it doesn't matter"}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:32", "text": "if you leave or not. If you're if you feel this way and you you can get out,"}, {"start": "00:46:32", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "you feel, you know, please be empowered to leave. There's always something else."}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:44", "text": "And if it's such a hostile situation, it's really not going to matter to them whether or not you leave. It matters to"}, {"start": "00:46:44", "end": "00:46:50", "text": "you that you're putting yourself in a situation that you find more tolerable. Right? And and I think what's really"}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "happening there, I don't know who your friend is, but for sure that that what strikes me is that they realize that the alternative of leaving is less tolerable"}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:06", "text": "than staying in a hostile environment. Right. Yeah. And they whenever whenever we've got to"}, {"start": "00:47:06", "end": "00:47:12", "text": "remember that our actions show others"}, {"start": "00:47:12", "end": "00:47:17", "text": "what our own limitations are. So if you treat me like trash"}, {"start": "00:47:17", "end": "00:47:24", "text": "and I stick around. Yeah. It's easy for me to feel like, oh, you're the because you treat me"}, {"start": "00:47:24", "end": "00:47:30", "text": "like trash. Yeah. Whereas from your point of view, you're like, I'm not an I'm pushing"}, {"start": "00:47:30", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "you hard and you're obviously not leaving. So, there must be something you"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "like about being here being pushed hard. Yeah. Whether it's the paycheck or the future"}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:48", "text": "promotional gains or maybe it's because there's no other jobs out there, whatever. So, it's that's the benefit of"}, {"start": "00:47:48", "end": "00:47:55", "text": "taking a second to look through the eyes of the of the hostile party. Yeah. Because I mean all of the"}, {"start": "00:47:55", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "questions, all the ideas about hostile and and condescending, like these are all words that we use to basically"}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:08", "text": "attribute to someone else and how they're treating us, which is another way of saying these are words that we attribute to how we feel"}, {"start": "00:48:08", "end": "00:48:16", "text": "about someone else. Yeah. And and I know that's exactly what I see happening here on set in our show all"}, {"start": "00:48:16", "end": "00:48:21", "text": "the time. All the conflict on our show basically comes down to individuals who"}, {"start": "00:48:21", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "are assigning their feelings through an emotion or"}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "through a a a label that they're putting onto somebody else instead of just accepting that it's the"}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "way they feel. So to put it another way, one of the things that I do whenever I"}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:44", "text": "find myself in a position with somebody who is just like"}, {"start": "00:48:44", "end": "00:48:51", "text": "un unsuable, unchangeable, right? When I am in a room with your mother,"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "whose opinions cannot be changed. Yeah. Whose point of view is set in stone,"}, {"start": "00:48:57", "end": "00:49:04", "text": "right? whose like ideas and ideology are not only cast in iron, but there are"}, {"start": "00:49:04", "end": "00:49:11", "text": "like shards of glass glued to the top of her iron fence that protects her ideology. Right?"}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:17", "text": "At some point, you just have to accept that this person is the way they are."}, {"start": "00:49:17", "end": "00:49:23", "text": "And if I'm going to let the way they are hurt my feelings, that's on me."}, {"start": "00:49:23", "end": "00:49:30", "text": "Yeah. Because they're not trying to be a jerk. You know, I can guarantee you, my love, your mother is never trying to be rude."}, {"start": "00:49:30", "end": "00:49:35", "text": "No, she is never trying to be cruel. She is never trying to be ignorant or mean or"}, {"start": "00:49:35", "end": "00:49:41", "text": "or savage. She is never trying to be any of those things. Yeah. Even though the people around her"}, {"start": "00:49:41", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "sometimes feel like they are being attacked, that's on them because they're trying to"}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:56", "text": "change your mom. Don't try to change her. Just embrace her for what she is. accept that this is the way she is. And"}, {"start": "00:49:56", "end": "00:50:03", "text": "all of a sudden, your life gets a whole hell of a lot better. Yeah, I love your perspective."}, {"start": "00:50:03", "end": "00:50:09", "text": "Oh, I love you. And because I love you, I also love your mother."}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:17", "text": "My parents love you so much. You are the son they never had,"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:24", "text": "my love. Thank you so much for making time to talk today. Yeah. And I'm glad that we we took the"}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "risk and even though we're both tired and low energy, we still made the time to talk and share with share with"}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:35", "text": "everybody who watches along with us. Please go take care of the babies. I hope our son feels better soon."}, {"start": "00:50:35", "end": "00:50:41", "text": "It's not getting any warmer here, but I'll put on extra layers. Thank you. Yeah. Keep yourself warm and"}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "healthy so we can have a good Christmas. Yes. And I will be home for Christmas and I'm very excited for that."}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:54", "text": "Us, too. We're counting the days. I love you, girl. All right. I love you, babe. Thanks for joining us, everyone. We love sharing"}, {"start": "00:50:54", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "our stories with you. And if you want to share any of your holiday stories with us, we would love to see them. Put them down in the comments. Ask us more"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:06", "text": "questions. We love engaging with you guys. We hope everyone here has a very happy holiday and stays warm this"}, {"start": "00:51:06", "end": "00:51:17", "text": "season. [Applause]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:01", "text": "You can't shut your iPhone off."}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Oh, I know."}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "It's always listening. It's always"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "pinging towers. It's always pinging"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "Wi-Fi. Building a digital breadcrumb"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "trail of where you go and what you do."}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "What happens to those recordings?"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "Well, we've been doing a study following"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "Google Mobile Services phone, any"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "Android running Google mobile services,"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "which is all of them, or an iPhone, and"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "at about 3:00 a.m. we're seeing a spike"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "of data leading the phone about 50"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "megabytes. That is basically that phone"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "dialing home to the mothership,"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "exporting all of your goings on."}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "All your pillow talk is going to"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "pillow talk. Whatever. What is a"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "smartphone? It's basically a highly"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "capable personal computer in your hand."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "That's constantly linked to a network."}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "Yes."}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "Well, an advertising ID, it's like a"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "25digit"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "alpha numeric code that sits on your"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "phone and it enables to collect where"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "you go, what you buy, who you call, and"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "what you browse. It's more pervasive"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "than Marcus Wolf of the Stazzi or Baria"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "of the KGB of the NKVD could ever"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "possibly imagine. I've had so many"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "people I've talked to about, they said,"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "\"I was talking to my wife about needing"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "a new mattress in our bedroom. The next"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "day they're getting advertising for"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "mattresses, which means the camera or"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "the phone was listening to them in their"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "bedroom."}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "People are foolish if you believe you"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "can go onto the internet, sign on to a"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "social media site, and expect to have"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "privacy. That's ridiculous. How do How"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "do these companies make money?"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "Seriously, Google makes money by knowing"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "where you are, what you're buying, who"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "you're with, who your contacts are, who"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "you last talked to, where you're eating"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "your your dinner. This is how everybody"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "makes money. And to think that you're"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "going to get these free services."}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "Seriously, how valuable to you is"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "Google? How often do you Google"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "something to find out anything? you"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "know, where the next clothing store is,"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "what's on the movies, um, you know,"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "something to help your children with"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "their homework"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "constantly. Invaluable. What does it"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "cost you?"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "Zero. Zero. Please, nothing is free."}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "We now have confirmation that our phones"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "are actually listening to us at all"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "times."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "And in every case that I'm aware of,"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "these companies have eventually turned"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "over the recordings."}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "And this researcher has proven that our"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "phones are even uploading data about us,"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "even when our phones are off. Everything"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "you do on an unsecured network is at"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "risk. Your passwords, credit card info,"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "and even sensitive work documents could"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "be exposed to prying eyes. Now more than"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "ever, is it important to protect your"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "data online? Think about public Wi-Fi."}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "You're at a cafe or in an airport or"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "even at the gym and you're connecting to"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "free Wi-Fi without a second thought."}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "That free Wi-Fi is often a hacker's"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "playground. With just a few clicks,"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "someone can intercept your connection,"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "steal your information, and even track"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "your browsing habits. That's where"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "private internet access or PIA comes in."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "With private internet access, you can"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "safeguard all your online activities"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "with militarygrade encryption,"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "protecting you from hackers,"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "governments, and even your internet"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "provider. Plus, they have a strict no"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "logs policy, which means they don't"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "track or store any of your browsing"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "history, so your privacy stays private."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "One click and you're protected. No"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "complicated setup required. That's why"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "we use Private Internet Access. Get 83%"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "off and 4 months free using our link for"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "a limited time. You can click the link"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "in the description to try it out today."}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "So to be shocked that Facebook is"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "selling your data or allowing people to"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "have access to it, I'm sorry. This is"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "foolish. Of course they are. Because how"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "again do they make money? They have"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "application interfaces that let them"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "access your location, your contacts, who"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "you're calling, um what you're buying."}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "Now, now something that you may not know"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "is that over half of all smartphones,"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "both uh iOS and Android, are infected"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "with keystroke logging software. This is"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "a known fact. Every pornography site in"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "the world, if you have ever, you have"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "keystroke locking software. How do you"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "think they make their money? See, this"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "is this is the issue. It cost millions"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "of dollars to maintain these massive"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "databases and have the bandwidth to"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "disperse this. And yet, you don't pay."}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "Yes, you're paying the instance you"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "visit the site. If you have an Android,"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "for example, the site runs a JavaScript"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "which sets the download unauthorized"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "application flag. Why has this not"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "happened to you already? Because hackers"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "are not stupid. In order to take"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "something, they have to download"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "additional software. If they only take 4"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "or 500 people's bank accounts in one"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "day, then the next day, the Whitehead"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "hackers are going to say, \"Ah, this is"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "how they did it.\" No, they're going to"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "wait until one day this year or next"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "year, and 100 million people in one day"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "are going to have your bank accounts"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "eradicated. And the Russian cyber mafia"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "and the Chinese cyber mafia are so"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "powerful. They pay literally hundreds of"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "millions of dollars to these pornography"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "sites to allow them to access your"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "smartphone so that at some point they"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "can utilize that. I can tell you what"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "the most secure is. It's it's this one,"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "the one that I carry and it's a Samsung"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "S7. And the reason is it is the only"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "phone that cannot be remotely rooted or"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "remotely jailbroken. All iPhones can be"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "removed. The most hackable phone in the"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "world is the iPhone. Android is second."}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "The cloud is a place where I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "store data. I don't know what computer"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "it's on or even what country it's in. I"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "don't know who is managing it and"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "monitoring it and controlling it. I know"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "nothing. And I'm willing to put my"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "valuable data there. No, nation states"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "are creating weaponized software that"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "can destroy another nation's power grid."}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "I' I'd rather have nuclear bombs dropped"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "because they're localized. If you lose a"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "power grid for a nation, you will be"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "living in a cave within a year wearing"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "animal skins because that's the there is"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "no other hope."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "As soon as you connect to any of those,"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "I have your password. I have anything in"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "between."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "Oh man,"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "you can hack anything. Car keys,"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "garages, gates, anything that's radio"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "frequency, access control badges for"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "doors and credit cards. There we go. I"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "just read my card there. And and if you"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "want, I could show you the beginning of"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "Oh my gosh, dude."}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "So, all of these networks here,"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "they probably appear to be legitimate,"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "But they're not. These are all fake"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "networks."}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "They're all powered by me. So, as soon"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "as you connect to any of those, I have"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "your password. I have anything in"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "between."}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "So, that's that's one thing. That's just"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "Wi-Fi."}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "And you just Oh, man. So, this is So,"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "this is is this how people are stealing"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "information?"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "This is one of many ways. They're"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "actually I mean you can obviously you"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "can hack anything but go inflate they"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "they have a pretty good segment on their"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "network so you're pretty safe with GoGo."}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "Uh you there's a chance of getting"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "hacked but not the same as like a"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "Starbucks or a here like you know your"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "network has to be segmented into chunks."}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "And uh go segments it pretty well. I'd"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "highly recommend you go back to wired"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "even though it sounds old school. That's"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "what you should do because I could"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "control your mouse and keyboard with"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "this device and send keystrokes way"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "faster than you can type them and uh"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "take over your computer without even"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "having to see you or it. So, I could do"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "that through the wall."}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "Brand Montgomery mentions other types of"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "wireless attacks like this one."}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "This is actually a really good one here."}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "So, if you're ever in a business, for"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "example,"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "this is a device that you would plug"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "into USB and then as you see there's an"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "Ethernet uh adapter here. And when this"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "plugs in, this has a mini computer"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "inside of it. So as soon as this thing"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "gets plugged into a computer or to the"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "internet, the first thing it does is try"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "to reach back out to one of my servers."}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "So if I put this in, you know, your"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "closet or where your modem was at, I"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "don't think that you would ever think"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "this is a dangerous device."}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "If I open a text, could I be hacked just"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "from opening the text?"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "Technically, yes. There was one going"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "around for quite a long time called"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "Pegasus. And then there was another one"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "called Pegasus 2.0. It didn't require"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "any user interaction from anyone. You"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "would just send to a phone number."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "They'd have full remote access to your"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "phone."}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "Even without opening the text,"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "without opening anything."}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "Holy. How do you defend against"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "something like that? Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "you can't. There's no there's no way to"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "defend. That's why they're so valuable"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "because there's nothing you can do."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "There we go. I just read my card there."}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "And And if you want, I can show you the"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "beginning of it."}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "Oh my gosh, dude."}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "Yeah. So, it's that easy to steal your"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "credit card number. This is just a proof"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "of concept device. You know, there's"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "devices out there that could do this"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "from further away."}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "How fast could you just brush by"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "somebody and"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "instantly instantly? Yeah, it's there's"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "no delay there. Most cars are going to"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "be in the 315 433 MHz range. Uh but on"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "this case, I'll do the frequency"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "analyzer so I can see exactly what that"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "frequency is. So, I'll press the lock"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "button. I see that this is 314999."}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "So, that tells me that most likely this"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "is going to be a 315 uh key. So, now I'm"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "going to record. And as I hit unlock,"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "unlock, unlock, unlock, stop. So, now I"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "have four uh captures here that will"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "work because how these work the these"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "use a rolling code. So, every time I"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "press this unlock button and the car is"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "within range, that code expires. If I'm"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "out of range of the car, then these are"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "valid codes. So, if I went back to, you"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "know, where to my house and I pressed"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "send and I went and transmitted like"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "like I'm doing now. If I transmitted"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "these signals, it would unlock the car"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "four times. So, you would get another"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "device like the device I showed you with"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "a big antenna."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "I'd get that device. I would jam. So,"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "I'd send a bunch of scattered"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "frequencies on 315 megahertz cuz I know"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "that's what this key is. I'd send a"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "bunch of static on 315 and then while"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "I'm standing at the store or wherever"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "the person I want to steal something"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "from their car is, I would be listening"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "on 315. So now I'm closer to you"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "listening and then the jammer is closer"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "to your car. So your car is not going to"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "receive the signal because of the"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "static, but I'm going to receive the"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "signal clear as day from this device. So"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "now my combinations are valid. So when I"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "go to open your car later, mine will"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "work. Do you think we need to worry"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "about what they're putting in our"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "electronics?"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "Yeah, I mean, I'll give you one example."}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "I bought this awesome all-in-one vacuum"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "m called Tino and uh it completely"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "connects to a Chinese server to uh to"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "transmit and receive information. I can"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "control that with my computer through a"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "Chinese cloud server. There's no reason"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "that that vacuum and mob should connect"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "to a Chinese cloud."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Scientists are baffled. Threeey Atlas,"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "that interstellar comet that's going"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "through our solar system right now,"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "appears to have reversed its thrust as"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "it neared the sun. A comet from another"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "star system slowing down. That shouldn't"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "be possible. You know, guys, this has"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "got to be some kind of a scop right now."}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "Harvard astrophysicist Avi Lobe has been"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "warning us about this for months now and"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "said we should all take vacations before"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "October 29th, which is today. So, we're"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "past the point of no return. Now, most"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "scientists of course call this just a"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "comet, and it probably is, but Lo says"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "there is something like a 40 to 60%"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "chance that it's something else,"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "something like an alien scout ship. Now,"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "today also marks perihelion, which is"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "its closest approach to the sun. And"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "since October 21st, three Atlas has been"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "perfectly hidden behind the sun, and"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "visible to every telescope on Earth,"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "which is super convenient. So, if it is"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "an alien ship, it would be the perfect"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "time for it to perform something that we"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "call an oberth maneuver or a gravity"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "assist to slingshot it around the sun to"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "change course, gain speed, sight unseen."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "But here's where it gets weirder. Just"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "before the government shutdown, NASA's"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, the MRO,"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "apparently captured an image of ThreeI"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "Atlas as it passed by Mars. And Avi Lo"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "says that he asked to see this image,"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "being a scientist and all, but NASA"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "ignored him. No response, no release,"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "total silence. And then the shutdown"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "hit. So, we've got no new official data"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "or updates, which is super convenient"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "and also super sus. But there was this"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "recently released image that allegedly"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "shows three Atlas. Now, I've seen some"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "people say this is a hoax, a fake. It's"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "just a photoshopped image of a hexbolt,"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "but it also reminds me of the objects"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "that were seen on the infamous STS"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "footage from the space shuttle missions"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "in the '90s from the Tether incident."}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "Kind of similar looking if you ask me."}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "And now what's even more interesting is"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "that the UNbacked International Asteroid"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "Warning Network, the IAWN, has quietly"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "placed 3II Atlas under continuous"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "surveillance through January 2026, even"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "though it's not going to come anywhere"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "close to hitting us. Basically, they're"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "calling it a monitoring exercise, but"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "many think that it looks more like a"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "global defense drill. Or maybe this is"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "all just a cover story because maybe"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "it's not just a comet. Maybe this is a"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "scop or a test for something bigger."}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "Well, scientists are keeping a close eye"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "on a massive object flying straight"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "toward our sun. The Manhattan sized"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "object is called threeey atlas. And"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "during observation, scientists have been"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "seeing it change color and even grow a"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "cometary tail. Their findings have led"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "to some belief that this object may"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "actually be made by another life form."}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "With the third trumpet, the waters, it"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "said, are turned bitter, the fresh"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "waters. It says that many people died"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "from the waters that have become bitter."}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "It's like the first trumpet, but its"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "effect is upon not the seas, but it's"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "upon the freshwater. And it says this,"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "it's interesting. The star falls from"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "heaven and it hits the freshwater, and"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "it's wormwood."}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "Well, wormwood is interesting because"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "it's a shrublike plant that's noted not"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "only for its extremely bitter taste, but"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "it's also poisonous."}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "And so, somehow something happens."}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "Whether that star is an angel that's"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "coming down to earth or whether it's"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "some natural disaster, it's going to"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "lead to a shortage of fresh water and"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "people are going to be dying because of"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "dehydration."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "And then for finally in the fourth"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "trumpet blasts and it says the third of"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "the day without light and also a third"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "of the night. This is probably a"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "consequence of all the previous"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "judgments where a huge mountain all"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "ablaze it says is thrown into the sea"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "and a great star blazing like a torch"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "fell from the sky."}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "Is this a massive uh projection of"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "matter and stream into steam into the"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "atmosphere because of volcanic or or uh"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "or meteors or asteroids landing upon the"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "earth? Something that causes such an"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "upheaval that literally it blotss out"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "the sun's rays so that the days become"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "shortened."}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "We had covered the dart mission. And so,"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "you know, that was involving the I was"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "it the asteroid that was coming our way"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "and so it was the asteroid that was"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "coming our way and there was a really"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "fascinating mission"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "and slammed into it"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "and right and and I believe it was led"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "by NASA at the time. It wasn't wasn't"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "too long ago and and it was I mean it"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "was like way to go. I mean it was like"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "perfect. NASA led the mission and um"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "they ended up shooting something at the"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "asteroid that was coming towards Earth."}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "It worked. It was a successful mission."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "So, is that maybe potentially possible?"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "I don't know. But you said that whatever"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "this is, the threei Atlas is absolutely"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "huge and it is extremely fast right now."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "So, could that maybe potentially be a"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "possibility? I don't know. That's his"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "acting administrator, Sha Duffy, has"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "replied to Kim Kardashian's inquiry"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "about ThreeI Atlas, right? Kim says,"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "\"Wait, what's the tea about three"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "Atlas?\" And Shawn Duffy replies, \"NASA's"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "observation shows that this is a third"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "interstellar comet to pass through our"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "solar system. No aliens, no threat to"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "life here on Earth.\" And then goes"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "around well down to kind of describe"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "what throughout this actually means,"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "right? Which is a little bit strange. So"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "NASA uh why why the hell are you"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "replying to Kim Kardashian's inquiry and"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "not RV Loes and other astrophysicists"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "and astronomers inquiries about it and"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "thousands and thousands of other people"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "like myself and other civilian populists"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "that want to know more about the subject"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "in question? Right? Why are you replying"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "to someone like this and not everyone"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "else and researchers in the field that"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "actually just want genuine questions and"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "information? What's going on? Right,"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "Nassie? you've been fumbling it hard"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "recently and I feel like you know with"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "the best respects get a grip of yourself"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "all right and let us know what the hell"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "is going on. I mean you guys know my"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "thoughts on the whole subject itself but"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "the information that obviously you guys"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "know about and are withholding which"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "seems like you're withholding um and not"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "actually answering the answers or"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "questions of the general populace."}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "Breaking news. This footage is of the"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "strange comet that's approaching Earth."}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "Now, this is from Hawaii's satellite, or"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "rather their uh telescope thing. Did you"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "see that flash of light that's using"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "multiple filters? They said, \"This is"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "what they're showing us.\" Now, you may"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "be thinking, \"Am I concerned that this"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "is an alien spacecraft coming to Earth?\""}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "The answer to that is no. Am I concerned"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "that this will be a scop to make us"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "think aliens are coming to Earth and"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "then maybe Project Blue Beam happens?"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "Yes, that is a rational concern. Now, if"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "you don't know much about Project Blue"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "Beam, it's basically the usage of"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "holograms to depict something in the sky"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "that's not really happening, that's"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "completely fake, but can be used to"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "further an agenda. For example, every"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "city in the world sees some strange"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "crafts in the sky at the same time. The"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "media says, \"Oh my gosh, we have been"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "contacted and the aliens want this,"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "that, or the other, or we have to make"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "sure everyone isn't an alien, so you got"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "to get a microchip.\" I mean, the"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "ramifications of this go a long way. Now"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "remember, we have a NASA physicist"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "telling us this is very strange. It's"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "alienike. It could be otherworldly."}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "Nothing about it makes any sense for a"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "normal comet to be emitting light and"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "all that. So, you just got to read the"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "room here. I'm not saying, \"Oh my gosh,"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "aliens.\" They're saying that, which"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "makes me think, what is the scop here?"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "What is the uh angle or kibono? Who"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "benefits? And remember, we have seen so"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "many Hollywood movies about things that"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "happen in movies and then they happen in"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "real life. We have yet to see, despite"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "all the alien movies, we have yet to see"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "a genuine alien or rather a confirmed"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "official uh alien situation on Earth"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "yet. So, we've been programmed in the"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "media with so many other things that"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "have happened. This might be the next"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "one that it's time to happen. Footage of"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "deceased anti-gravity researcher Amy"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "Escridge, who allegedly took her own"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "life, is going viral for claiming that"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "disclosure would come from Huntsville,"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "Alabama. This is viral because President"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "Trump just announced that Space Force"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "Command HQ is moving to Huntsville,"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "Alabama."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "Disclosure is going to come out of"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "Huntsville, Alabama, out of Redstone"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "Arsenal. Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville,"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "Alabama is the biggest [ __ ] deal that"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "you've never heard of because the fact"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "is that we have deep and wide extensive"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "credibility that no one knows about. Now"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "like Huntsville is the Silicon Valley of"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "government national security technology"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "and intelligence community technology"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "and aerospace technology. Huntsville is"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "like the hub. Like we are number three"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "on the first strike launch list. Right"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "off the bat, I got to say she sounds"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "like she's drunk or on something."}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "She does sound something or"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "but she's also articulating a lot of"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "this completely okay for the most part."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "I do think the the connection is"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "interesting that she's making the"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "disclosure. Um she's saying disclosure"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "will happen from Huntsville, but also"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "Huntsville is an ep like an epicenter of"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "all of this stuff. trying to to navigate"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "in my head the fact that"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "this chick was just talking about"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "basically getting killed for not being"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "open about it and she's open about it"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "and she's dead."}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "I have multiple Bluetooth attacks like"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "physical proximal within 100 ft of me"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "physically Bluetooth attacks that I have"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "logs and live packet captures for all"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "over town. No, it's not cool. It's"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "disturbing. It's disturbing. I have"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "Bluetooth attacks that happened within a"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "hundred feet of me at my co-working"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "space, at my office, and at local bars,"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "and at the local university."}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "She died of a gunshot wound on our front"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "porch, front steps of her apartment."}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "She had a genius for science and"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "questioned the conventional wisdom and"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "everything from the universe to the nano"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "particles of the atom. She was an astute"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "entrepreneur,"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "chairwoman and president of the"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "Institute for Exotic Science in"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "Huntsville, Alabama. She graduated from"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "the University of Alabama in Huntsville."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "She co-founded this company, Institute"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "for Exotic Science. After her graduation"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "from UAH with a double major in"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "chemistry, biology, she became an"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "interdisciplinarian and a master of"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "electrical engineering and"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "nanotechnology."}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "And then he goes on with the second"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "trumpet. He says, \"A third of the sea"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "turned into blood. A third of living"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "creatures in the sea died. A third of"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "the ships were destroyed."}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "Not unlike what Moses did. It says in"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "Exodus 7, he struck the water of the"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "Nile and all the water was changed into"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "blood and the fish in the Nile died and"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "the river swelled so bad that the"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "Egyptians could not drink its water."}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "It's interesting because this is"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "something that has happened in the Nile"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "River. It's where there's such a silt of"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "red soil that comes into it. the river"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "literally turns red and it chokes off"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "all life. The fish literally die in the"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "case where we find the frogs jumping out"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "of out of the lake. It's because they"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "can't breathe in this silted water. But"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "there's also a thing called red tide"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "that could be another option that"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "basically does the same thing. It"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "extinguishes it grows and it it it it"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "halts the whole transference of oxygen"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "in and out of the water. and the the"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "plants and the fish in the sea die from"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "it. And he said this is going to be so"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "widespread"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "that a third of the sea creatures are"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "going to perish. They'll suffocate as"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "well along with a third of the ships"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "that are destroyed. And we're not told"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "in detail why that is. Well, as I said"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "before, what's different about these"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "particular judgments is not their uh"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "dynamics, but that the scope of them is"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "so destructive."}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "It's kind of like the plagues upon"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "Egypt, except cubed or m multiplied many"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "times over. Revelation 8 beginning in"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "verse 7,"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "it reads as follows. The the first angel"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "sounded his trumpet, and there came hail"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "and fire mixed with blood, and it was"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "hurled down upon the earth, and a third"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "of the earth was burned up. A third of"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "the trees were burned up, and all the"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "green grass was burned up."}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "The second angel sounded his trumpet,"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "and something like a huge mountain all"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "ablaze was thrown into the sea. And a"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "third of the sea turned into blood, and"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "a third of the living creatures in the"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "sea died, and a third of the ships were"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "destroyed."}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "And the third angel sounded his trumpet,"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "and a great star blazing like a torch"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "fell from the sky. on a third of the"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "rivers and the springs of water. And the"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "name of the water is Wormwood. And a"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "third of the waters were turned bitter,"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "and many people died from the waters"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "that became bitter. And the fourth angel"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "sounded his trumpet, and a third of the"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "sun was struck. A third of the moon, and"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "a third of the stars, so the third of"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "them turned dark. A third of the day was"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "without light, and also a third of the"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "night."}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "If you enjoyed today's video on"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "Anonymous Official, leave a like and"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "subscribe if you haven't done so"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "already."}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "Thanks for watching and sticking with"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "us."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "So, as far as I'm concerned, and I've been told by FBI agents, I had an FBI"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "agent call me in my office in Glendale and tell me, \"Jordan, we've been watching you for a long time. We know"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "what you're doing. And as of this moment,\" and this was quite a long time ago, about 12 years"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "ago. But he said, \"As of this moment, the government, your government does not consider you to be a threat yet.\" He"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "said, \"We're watching everything you do, everywhere you go. We're watching you, but we don't consider you to be a threat"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "because people are hearing you, but they're not listening. So, as long as people are hearing you, then you're all"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "right. But when people start to listen to you, now that's different. Now, we're talking politics. And so, you will have"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "we'll have to take another look at you then. I have had federal agents talking to me about what I do. I've had FBI"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "people talking to me about what I do. And I've been threatened by federal government. So, I know what they can do"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "and I respect them because they will kill you. In this country, you can be killed. If you know something you're not"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "supposed to know or if you're talking uh in and about subjects you're not supposed to talk about, they will kill"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "you. Now, first of all, they would prefer just putting you in jail, finding some misplaced comma on your income tax,"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "and sending you away for 30 years. But if that's not going to work, then they'll just kill you."}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "You'll be killed coming out of a restaurant one night and there's some lone gunman and and all the and"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "everybody will be there sobbing at your funeral and uh but the real story is"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "they whacked you because you shut your mouth up. You're talking too much. You know too much and you're talking too"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "much. So I'm saying that America is in very serious trouble because the people"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "have not been told what's going on. They haven't been told how this world works."}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "the world. I will give you I'll give you some freebies. It took me 48 years to learn this. Well, let me tell you some"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "of the secrets that I've learned. One is that nothing in this world works the way"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "you think it does. Nothing. Nothing that you understand about this world works"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "the way you think it does. It doesn't. Banks don't loan money. There are laws, federal laws on the books today that say"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "very specifically, banks cannot loan money ever. That's the law."}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "So, what are you going to the bank to get a loan for when banks can't loan money?"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "Logic alone would explain it to you. I'm not going to put $100,000 into a bank so that you can come in and borrow $100,000"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "for a new car on my money. No thank you. You're not going to take my money to buy your car and if you don't pay for it, I"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "just lost $100,000. That's not the way it works. No. No. Banks cannot loan money. So, what happens is if you buy a"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "new car and say it's $40,000 car, every car, every automobile or anything,"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "house, motorcycle, doesn't matter what it is, must have a um an appraiser,"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "appraise that property or appraise that car. And so, whatever that car is worth,"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "say that car is worth $40,000, the appraiser said. So, when you take that,"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "so that paperwork is called commercial paper. And that commercial paper represents $40,000"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "of of business. You take that commercial paper and when you say you want to buy this car, the car agency will take that"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "paper and give it to the bank. The bank then takes that commercial paper which represents $40,000 and opens up a bank"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "account in your name and it will forge your name. It will forge your signature"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "because you can't open a bank account unless the person opening it signs it. So, they will forge your name on a bank"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "account, but they don't tell you that. Then they take the $40,000 commercial paper and deposit it in the in the uh"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "account, the new account that they just opened for you. Because if you have a ring worth $40,000, and you get it"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "appraised for 40, you can walk into the bank and tell the bank president, I want to deposit this ring, and here's the"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "paperwork on it. It's worth $40,000. I want to deposit that my account. and they will take the ring and they will"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "then put $40,000 in your account. Now, you've got 40 grand in your account to do, but they got your ring and they know"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "it's worth 40,000. So, they're not worried. They just give you credit. Yeah. And so, therefore, the bank never"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "loaned you anything. They just took the commercial paper, put it into a bank account, and then they wrote a check on"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "it because after all, now you got $40,000 to bank. So, now they write a check on it and give it to you, and you"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "give it to the car agency. So, you've paid them. No, no, you didn't pay them anything. Nobody paid anybody anything."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "Let me explain something to you. Suppose you are a a painter and I and I hire you"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "to paint my office and you say that the it will be $100 and I agree to that."}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "After the job is over as a contractor, the way commerce is operating in commerce, you come to me and you give me"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "a bill for $100. I look at it. I agree to I agreed to to this bill. So, I owe"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "you $100. So, what you're doing is you're giving me $100. You're giving me a bill for $100. I reach in my pocket"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "and I pull out a $100 bill and I give you a $100 bill. So, now I paid you. No,"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "no. I gave you a bill for $100. It's called a $100 bill. And if a if the and"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "if the charge was $20, then you give me a bill for 20 bucks, I'll give you a $20"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "bill. So now you owe me $20. You owe me $100. Yeah. I didn't pay you nothing. I"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "discharged the debt because I I discharged it. I cut off the charge"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "because now you owe me 100. I just gave you a bill for $100. It's called a $100 bill. And you think you got paid. No."}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "No. It's a bill you owe me. And since you owe me and I owe you, we're just we're even. So that's why"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "Yeah. That's why you don't own anything. Is it true owns our IRS?"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "Oh, yeah. Well, your your body, your very your very body is a security on the"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "New York Stock Exchange. Did you know that each one of you is worth over $6.5 million on the New York"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "Stock Exchange? Right now, let me show you something. You got a $1 bill? Give"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "me a $1 bill. I want to show you something. Thank you."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "On the social security card back in 1868 after the Civil War, a group of men got"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "together and formed a corporation. Well, anybody can form a corporation, anybody."}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "So, this group of guys got together. They called the and they formed a corporation in Delaware. It's a Delaware"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "Corporation. and they called the corporation the United States corporation and it was stipulated that"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "anybody who will work for that corporation will be referred to as a citizen. So it's a United States"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "corporation and if you work for that corporation you're a citizen. And so there today when you walk in a bank or"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "anywhere and they ask you are you a US citizen? You say yes. What you think they're asking you are you lawfully in"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "America to do business. They didn't ask you if you were lawfully in America like an attorney. Listen to what they ask you"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "cuz you're in court. Be careful what you say before the judge when he says are you a US citizen? Because if you say"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "yes, what you have said is that yes, I am voluntarily of my own valition"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "admitting that I am an employee of a foreign corporation called United States"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "which was incorporated as a Roman trust back in 1868. So that the United States"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "is a privatelyowned company like Ford Motor Company, General Motors, they're huge, they're big. Well, so is a US"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "government, but it's a privatelyowned corporation. And therefore, all corporations have to"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "have a president. So, they got a president. And you and corporate law says you have to have a vice president."}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "So, they got a vice president. And you also have to have a secretary treasur. That's corporate law. So, they got a"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "secretary treasur. It's a privatelyowned company for God's sakes. It's like"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "General Motors, Ford Motor Company, Sears, and the US government. It's all corporate. It's a business"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "and consequently your body is a security on the New York Stock Exchange because you're the security for what is referred"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "to as the body social. That's why when you retire, you get social security"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "because you are the security for the corporation. As long as you're doing your job and making money and paying"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "them every year, you're good security. You know, you got money coming in. And"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "so that's why you have to have a seat belt and and the car and you have to have insurance and a seat belt. Why?"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "Because they love you and want to protect you. No, no, no. They own you. They own your body on the security on"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "the New York Stock Exchange. So then, and so if you get in a wreck now, they got to pay you for God's sakes. Now they"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "got to take care of you. No, no. They want you to pay them airhead, not them pay you. So So they want you to protect"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "yourself. And if you're going to be stupid and get in an accident, have insurance so the federal government will be paid for your stupidity of getting"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "yourself in a wreck. So they get the insurance. So that's why you have to take care of yourself. I mean, once you"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "understand how this works, well, anyway, this is a corporation. It's called United States Corporation. It's"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "privately owned. So if you think for one minute I'm going to go to Vietnam and fight for foreign motor company, you got"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "another thing coming. No. For my country is a republic. Now that's different."}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "But there's a world of difference between United States of America and United States. United States is a"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "privatelyowned company. It's a corporation. The republic is different. It's a whole different world."}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "So you need to understand how those different words are used. There's a world of difference between a trial by"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "jury and a jury trial. Doesn't mean the same thing. There's a world of difference between California state and"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "the state of California. Doesn't mean the same thing at all. So when you there's a world of"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "difference between a lawyer and an attorney. Does it mean the same thing at all? You need to understand words. Study"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "the world of occult terms and knowledge that attorneys and lawyers know that you"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "don't know. Again, this is a corporation was founded in 1868 called the United"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "States Corporation, privately owned. And if you're a member of that corporation, like any corporation,"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "you're naturally going to have an ID card. So, if you're walking around the plant, they will be able to tell you to"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "actually work for Ford. And here's your here's your code numbers. And so, this is your your certificate number in the"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "corporation. But on the back, you will see a set of numbers on the back. On mine, it's red. And normally they are in"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "red. Sometimes they're in black. Normally the the numbers on the back are in red. Why? It doesn't matter what"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "color it is. It's what it represents. It's in red because it represents your blood. These numbers are your body on"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "the New York Stock Exchange. So when you have a dollar bill, an"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "American money, you will see there's a code numbers on the bill. See the code"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "numbers on the bill? When you put your numbers on the back of your social"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "security card with the numbers on the bill, they're"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "identical. So that your body is worth 6.5 million"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "on the stock exchange and it is the security for America's money. Your body"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "is a security uh for the body social. That's why when you retire you get social security. No,"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "you are the security for the body of the corporation. And they are using your"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "body on the New York Stock Exchange. And that's why this government has never cared about all the illegals coming in"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "from Mexico and they don't care about that at all. Why? Cuz the more the marrier. The more people that they get"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "social security numbers on, that's $6.5 million more they just got. And so if"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "they get 150,000 a day times times 6.5 million every day. The government's"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "making money off of people coming in. They couldn't care less where you come in. They want documented workers. So"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "they can document you to get the credit through the international banking cartels out of London to pay them for"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "you cuz your body is a security on the New York Stock Exchange. So that's why there's never going to be any there will"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "never be any stopping of the illegal because look it if the if the"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "corporation called United States is a company it's a corporation and if you are doing something and making money"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "then and you are not paying them they can put a lean on you it's called a"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "mechanic's lean you know if you have a painter and you paint your house and you don't pay him you could put a mechanic's lean meaning he goes to the bank and"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "says I'm putting a lean on this house because they owe me $6,000 and they won't pay me, which means you cannot do"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "anything with that property until you pay him first. So, if you want to sell the property first, but the first 6,000"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "goes to this man cuz he has a lean on you cuz he did something for you and you didn't pay him. So, therefore, if you"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "working in California, but you're not a a US citizen, you're not in the corporation, you become known as an"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "alien because they have now put a on you. You are now an alien. No, you're"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "not an alien. They have put a lean on you."}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "Words. It's magical the way words are used. You"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "go to court. Why do you go to court? You play tennis on a court. You play basketball on the court. How do you play"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "tennis on a court? You play with a racket. Come on. No. Serious. You think that these these"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "lawyers dreamlift this stuff by chance? No. No. No. No. These guys are smart. They're playing a game and you just"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "don't know the game they're playing. So, you're going to a court. The whole"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "idea of a court is is like I said, basketball court. It's a game. This team stands up and throws the ball back in"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "the other guy's court. And that team of lawyers throws the ball back in this guy's court. And the judges comes out."}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "He's a referee because he's wearing a black robe. Black robes represent the planet Saturn, the lord of money and"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "banking and law. Saturn was the god of banking and law."}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "That's and his his his priest of Saturn always wore black robes. That's why the"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "Catholic Church wears a black robe. That's why the rabbis wear black robes. When you graduate from high school, you"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "wear a black robe. The whole idea of of the Saturnian is called Saturn. The god"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "Saturn was lord of the rings. So women were told to listen to their god. So they would wear earring because"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "Saturn is the lord of the ring and men would to get married before their god. So they wear a wedding ring."}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "You need to understand there is a world of occultism, manipulation, exploitation"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "of the human race with words and terms and symbols that you don't even know is happening right in front of you. So you"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "got a court. The whole idea in a court is is a game to put the ball back in the"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "other guy's court. And the judge is going to rule from the bench. The word bench is a Latin word for a bank. So,"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "he's ruling for the bank. Why? Because you're going to have somebody's going to have to pay their debt to society."}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "Somebody's going to pay when the day is over. Somebody's going to lose and they're going to pay. And the judge"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "doesn't care cuz he's getting paid anyway. So, he doesn't care. He's a referee. That's why he wears a black robe. And when the judge walks out,"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "everyone rises. Why? The same reason when a Catholic priest walks out, everyone rises. Because a Catholic"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "church operates under the same maritime ability law as a court in America."}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "That's why in Catholic churches, you always see three steps going to the altar. Those are the first three steps"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "of the first degrees of Freemasonry. First, second, and third degree. Once you're on the third, you're getting the third degree. Now you're going before"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "the judge. It's the three degrees of masonry. So then you now now you bring in the"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "occult world of Freemasonry, all the secret societies, the Ninth Templars, the world bankers, the religious orders,"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "all of this stuff is connected thousands of years ago that you don't know anything about. And once you start"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "seeing how in court the judge rules from the from the bench, which a bench is a Latin word for bank, where do you find"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "banks? If they're on both sides of a river, they're called river banks. What does a river bank do if it doesn't"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "direct the flow of the currency? Because your your money is called currency"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "because it's the cash flow, the liquid assets, the juice. And either you got it"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "or you don't. Money goes through your hands like water. No, money is water."}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "Maritime admiraly. When let me money there are only two"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "things on the earth. There's only two things on this globe. There's there's land and water."}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "So we have two kinds of law. The ancient Romans set this up and they said we only have two kinds of law. The law of the"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "land and the law of water. The law of the land is the custom of the people who live on a particular piece of land."}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "That's always different. So the law of the land's different everywhere. You can do things in Russia you can't do here because the law of the land is different"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "here. You can do things in South America you can't do in China because of the law of the land is different. The people"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "live on the land. So the law of the land is the law of the culture that lives on that piece of land. But the law of"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "water, no water is the same everywhere. The law of water is the law of money."}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "It's called maritime ability. The law of money. So you can get a credit card in"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "in China and go to South Africa for a vacation. It doesn't matter. We're just talking money now. And banks are banks"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "all over the world. So we're just talking money. Either you got it or you don't. So it doesn't matter what color"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "you are, what race, do you have the money, you know, the credit card. So when you understand that the the money"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "is the law of the of water, let me give you an example of commerce in water."}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "When a ship pulls into harbor, a ship is always female. Always a ship is female"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "by law. Um sailing ship, rocket ship, doesn't matter. If it's a ship, it's"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "female. Why? Cuz she delivers the product. Okay? without her you don't have any product. So she is is a is a"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "term which is used for all ships. And so when the ship pulls into harbor"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "it pulls in with say $800 million worth of Toyotas. Uh every one of those cars"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "or televisions or whatever is coming in must have its own certificate of manifest because yesterday the ship"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "wasn't here. This morning they come to work and there's a ship here with $800 million worth of TVs. So it has"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "manifested. So on on the ship she brought in $800 million worth of"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "business. So she came in on water. Well, where the ship parks is at the dock and"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "where the ship sits is called its birth. She is sitting in her birth, right? And"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "she is producing uh a maritime ability product because she came in on water. So therefore, each"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "product has to have its own certificate of manifest because she is giving birth"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "to a pro to a to a product. So therefore, when you were born, you came"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "out of your mother's water. Her water broke and by law, you are considered a"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "maritime ability product. She delivered you in the delivery room. She delivered"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "the product. And so you came out of water. You're a maritime ability product. So you have to have a birth"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "certificate and the birth certificates got to be signed by the dock because that's where the ship is sitting at the"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "dock. So once you understand the words and the terms and if you're born dead if you're still born then they just lost"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "the TV because take your car off and it falls down. Yeah. And so you got to if"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "you on the car on the television whatever it is how much does it weigh? What color is it? You know does it have"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "air conditioning? Is it two door? Is it Mexican or is it is it uh"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "some other race of people? How much does it weigh? Does he have both eyes? Yeah."}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "And the other five fingers? Yes. And how much does he weigh? What color is he? Those are all the vital signs for a"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "maritime emeraldy product. Cuz for for God's sake, they're going to sell you. They want to know, does this kid have"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "two feet or what? Cuz if he doesn't, I got to have to pay for it. So I"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "So you are a maritime ability product and therefore you are being bought and sold around the world today. And if you"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "could get your original birth certificate back, the original, not the not the certified copy, get the original"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "one back, you will see on all birth certificates at the bottom, this a doc is a security document goes directly to"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "the Department of Commerce. And from the Department of Commerce, they put that directly out into the stock market of"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "New York City. And now people are buying and selling your your body and you don't even know it. You worth 6 and a half to"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "7 million right now. You didn't even know it on the New York Stock Exchange. But this is the the type of stuff that"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "most people don't know anything about. And there's a reason why most people have never heard any of this because it doesn't have anything to do with"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "football. has got nothing to do with silly ass sports and basketball and all that other silly ass stuff that kids"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "love to play. No, that's what you've always give the kids, a ball. Tell the kids play ball. I don't care what ball,"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "basketball, pingpong ball, football, golf ball, I don't care. Get the damn kid out of here and then go play with a"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "ball. Give the kid and he'll go out and play ball. That's why they have the president"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "of the United States. He goes out and throws the first ball cuz daddy's out playing ball with us. Yo, while all the kids are out there, all the schmucks are"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "out there watching the ball game and daddy's out there with the senators and the congressmen, they're watching the"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "ball game, I want to know what these freaks are doing 2:00 in the morning that they haven't told us. I want to"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "know about their boyfriends and all the money that's changing hands and all the that's really going on."}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "That's the That's where the name of the tune is. When you find out that these guys who are running the planet are"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "playing us for a bunch of fools, let them go out and play ball and send some"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "movie stars, send some of them chumps that we own, send them out there and let them get be on TV so you can see on the basketball game. They'll always show"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "Jack Nicholson and some big movie stars that they about the ball game cuz that keeps all the schmucks uh interested to"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "go out with the movie stars and watch a ball game. Not me. I'm not going to any ball game. I want to I'm going to an"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "education at UCLA. I want to know who's running this country, how it works, who"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "set up our government, who gave us our religions, where these religions come from. The whole idea of Christianity is"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "nothing more than sun worship. I mean, who the sun is our risen savior? Of"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "course, the son is your risen savior. God's son is our you don't own the sun. Africa doesn't own the sun. So, who owns"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "the sun? Well, obviously, God owns the sun. Well, it's God's son. And God's son is the light of the world. Of course,"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "the son's the light of the world. What the hell? What the hell else lights the earth? It isn't the sun."}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "So God's son lights the world. He's the light of the world. He's our risen savior. Of course, it's your risen"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "savior. It doesn't rise, you're dead in six weeks. So wait till it don't come up. You'll"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "see it is your savior. And the sun, the Egyptians said the sun gives off energy and energy is life."}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "That's why you have a life. You have the life of a battery. When the battery goes dead, it's no energy. So the Egyptians"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "said, \"The sun is pure energy and it's giving its energy so that we might live.\" So God's son is giving his life"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "that you might live. Of course, the sun's giving us life. It's giving its energy so that you can grow and the"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "plants can grow. And once you begin to understand religion, where it comes from, the whole"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "story of Jesus is nothing more than a metaphor. There was no Jesus. There was no Abraham, no Isaac, no Jacob. There"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "was no Moses, no King Solomon. None of those people in the Bible ever lived."}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "These are metaphors for something far deeper that the ancient writers were"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "trying to tell you in a metaphor. There's a symbolic story. And if you don't get the symbolism, you will go for"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "your whole life in trouble because you didn't know how to read the symbols. You don't know what's really going on behind"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "the scenes. You drive down through Los Angeles and see all the spray painting on walls. You think it's a bunch of kids"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "destroying property. No, no, no. Those symbols mean something. And if you don't know what they mean, you better stay out"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "of the territory cuz they're telling you if you come in here with a different particular race, that symbols mean we're"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "going to kill you. And so if you're going on a bicycle ride in China, you better learn the Chinese symbols because"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "you're going to get killed if you don't know how to read the symbols. And that's what most people don't know anything"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "about how this world really in fact works. But once you figure out how the"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "courts work, education works, education is nothing more than a 12step program."}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "Let me give you an example. In the ancient Egyptian religion, one of the many different religions in Egypt, the"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "ancient Egyptian religion of Horus. Horus was the son in its rising. He was"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "a god. God the sun. And Horus was spelled H O R U S. And Horus walked"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "across the sky in 12 steps. It was a 12step program. That's why alcoholics have a 12step program. You have a 12step"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "program. You go to the first grade to the 12. It's a 12step program. Then you graduate, which is two words, gradually"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "indoctrinate. You put them together, it becomes graduate. So from the 12step program, they have finally taught you"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "what to kiss and when and how to get a Yeah. and how to get a job and what and who to and who to bow down to and all"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "that. So, they've taught you now and now you can go out and get a job. It's the 12step program. First to the 12th grade."}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "What is that based on? Horus. Horus was our god, the the son, the son god in"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "Egypt. He walked across the sky in 12 steps. Horus of the first step, Horus of the"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "second step, Horus of the third step. When he got in the Horus of the sixth step, he was directly overhead. He was"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "then called Horus the most high God because you don't get any higher than noon. So it's called high noon because"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "he's the most high. Why? Well because after 1:00 the sucker's going down. So"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "so he was the most high at 12 noon. And so Horus walks across his 12 steps. So"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "we say the same thing today. Same thing. We have 12 horses but instead of h o r u"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "s we make it h o u r s becomes hours changing the u and the r now it becomes"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "12 hours no it's 12 horuses and horus represents light the sun represents"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "light in Latin is Lucius Lucius when personified as a god becomes Luke and"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "this is why I have Luke Skywalker and he walks across the sky and beats his evil brother Darth Vader or in the Egyptian"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "religion set. He was the god of darkness. The prince of darkness was set. Why? Cuz it got dark. It's suns"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "set. So the whole idea is that it's the whole world that we live in is based on Egypt,"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "Mesopotamia, ancient Greece, ancient Rome. All of this stuff that we live in"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "this world is based on ancient religions and cults and secret societies and Masonic orders. And the people of this"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "world have no idea. in the world was going on. I've spent 48 years studying"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "occultism, mysticism, words, terms, legal terms, government, international"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "banking, theology, religions. I'm telling you, there's a world of knowledge you have never been told."}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "That's been right there for you, but it just never occurred to anyone to sit down for 48 years and study this stuff"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "in the dark. I mean the the I have a high respect for"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "all religions, for all belief systems, but I'm telling you it needs to be based on wisdom and knowledge. Let me give you"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "an example in the Old Testament in Arabia. In Arabia looking east, there's"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "a huge mountain range in Arabia, very high mountain ranges in Arabia, in the middle of Arabia. And so the Arabian"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "people on this side looking east, every night the moon would come out of"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "the mountain. the moon would rise in the east and it comes out behind the mountains. So the ancient Arabians"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "talking about thousands of years ago they believed the moon was a god. It was a moon god and obviously he lived in a"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "mountain. That's obvious because every day he comes up from the mountain. So he lived in a mountain and his name the"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "name of the moon god in Arabia was sin. S I n sin and a mountain in the ancient Arabic a very ancient language was Ai."}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "It's translated Ai. Ai is a mountain in the ancient language. So the god sin"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "lived in his mountain Ai. You put them together, it becomes cyani. No, there was no cyani. There's a god sin in the"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "mountain called Ai. Airhead wake up. It's just a worship of a moon god. This"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "is why the Jews have their celebration after sundown because that's when the moon god comes out. They're not going to"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "have their their their holy days in the daytime. That's when the Christians are worshiping the sun. But God say you"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "don't want to have your holy days when they're worshiping the sun on Sunday"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "with the Christians who worshiping the sun. The Jews are worshiping the moon. So we wait till after sundown. Then we"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "have our holy days. It's because of the moon God comes out and it's in cyanide and you know and God"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "I could go on for hours explaining where these concepts and ideas have come from. That's why if you go to Israel and you"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "go to a synagogue, it's not spelled s yn. spell s i n sin a go because sin is"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "the god of the moon or go which is we get from that uh the go and make or go"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "sin a go is the house of the of the worship of the god sin sin a go s i n"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "not s yn so I'm just huh"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "oh yeah I can sit and talk for days on this stuff days. Several days. Yeah, I could sit and talk for days on"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "on this subject of religion, theology, uh where all of these things have come"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "from. Um, a lot of people ask me, you know, well, where did you get this document or that document? Where where"}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "can we read about this or that? Well, what I've done is I have uh downloaded, give me that uh that"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "DVD. What I've done is I have uh Thank you. I have downloaded all my files in"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "one computer. I got about three or four of them, but in one computer I have all my text dial text documents, PDFs and"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "all that. So what I've done is I've just downloaded all of my documents from my computer into a DVD."}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "It's like I don't know 5,080 different items, 161 different subjects, 3.4 four"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "gigs of documents on religion, government, courts, just the crap in the"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "world. Everything, everything is going on. It's all here. There's all the documents are all here. And you find out"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "where all this stuff really comes from. And the worship of Saturn and Saturn was in the old Phoenician language. In the"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "ancient area where we call Israel and Lebanon today was called Phoenicia. And in the old Phoenician world, they were"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "worshippers of the planet Saturn. So when the Hicks tells people that we call Hebrews today in incidentally, the word"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "Hebrew is a derogatory term. It's like calling a Mexican a It's not a very nice term. And so and and so"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "calling someone a Hebrew is not it's a derogatory term. And incidentally, the Jewish Yamaka, that's not it's not"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "Jewish at all. That's Roman. That's why the the Holy Father wears a Yamaha. the the cardinals were the amaka. Rome was"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "here before Jews. And so under the Roman Empire, the Jews were ordered to show show respect for the Holy Father or"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "we're going to cut your head off. So you show respect for the Holy Father. You are under the Holy Father. So you show"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "respect by wearing the Yarmaka. So today we got Jews running around with Yamas think it's it's Jewish. Not Jewish. It's"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "Roman. The entire system of religion is Roman."}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "A white man's world has dominated the earth with religion. And the Jews think"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "that they're that they are a monotheistic religion. No, not monotheistic. Hetheistic."}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "Christians think that they've got a a a corner on the truth and they don't realize they're just worshiping the sun."}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "Let me give you an example. We got a couple of moments. Let me give you an example. I want try and understand what I'm saying here. All of the religious"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "concepts and ideas in Christianity and Judaism come from the northern hemisphere. We don't have anything in"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:43", "text": "our Christianity or Judaism that comes from the uh from the Aztecs or Amayas or"}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "the aboriges of Australia. All of our concepts and ideas come from the northern hemisphere. Very good reason."}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "Because the whole thing of religion and Judaism and Christianity is astrology. It's based on the stars. That's where"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "God is. Ask any kid where God is. He's out there. That's right. In the stars. That's what the Christianity and Judaism"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "is based on. stars. And so"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "on the first day of summer, the very first day of summer, the sun is as high"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "in the northern hemisphere as it's going to go. It's not going any further north than the first day of summer. Each day"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "after the first day of summer, it begins to move one degree southward every day. It's so slight you'll never notice it."}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "But six but 90\u00b0 later or 90 days later which is 3 months later it's halfway"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "down. So when he was high in the northern hemisphere he started summer and summer"}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "begins in the constellation of Leo. He was the Lion King like Disney's Lion King. The Lion King is the sun in the"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "constellation of Leo that begins summer. The Lion King, the lion of the tribe of"}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "Judah. It's Leo, the constellation of Leo. In summer, the sun is hot. So, he's"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "the lion king. Leo, the constellation. Now, 90\u00b0 later, 90 days later, he is"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "falling. So, now it's called fall. Yeah, cuz he was really hot. Now, he's falling. So,"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "he's not that hot anymore. So, now we call it fall because he's falling. What is the symbol for fall if it isn't"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "Scorpio, the backbiter? And this is why in the old ancient world"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "when a scorpion bites you, they have two stingers, one on top of the other. And when they when they hit you, it looks"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "like two lips. And then so the ancient people said, \"You just got the kiss of death. He just kissed you off.\" Cuz you"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "just got bit by a scorpion. And that's the kiss of death. That's why the mafia gives you a kiss of death. That's where it comes from. So Scorpio is the"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "backbiter. He's the one that goes behind your back and rats on you. And he's the backbiter and causes you to die. And"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "that's what Judas was the backbiter Scorpio because Scorpio begins fall. So"}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "Jesus who was the son of God, God's son, the light of the world, he was the lion"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "king in summer. But now he is falling. And so Judas is the backbiter who is now"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "kissed him off. And now he's going to go all the way south down the south and and"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "and uh and die in Capricorn. when he goes all the way down south, he"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "stops on December 21. No, December 22nd. On December 22nd, the sun hits the"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:34", "text": "lowest degree on the on the Earth, and it doesn't go any further south than"}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "December 22nd. On the 23rd and 24th, the sun rises on the exact same degree. The"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "US Navy has instruments that can show you it did not move northward or southward but for 3 days it stayed on"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "December 22nd, 23rd and 24th on the same degree. So the ancient Egyptians said the sun was moving all along and it's"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "anything moving every day is alive. But now for 3 days God's son is dead in his grave. He's dead. He's not moving. that"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "on December 25th, the sun moves one degree northward, which means it is now"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "beginning its annual journey back to the northern hemisphere. So now we celebrate his born again. He's come back after"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "all. He said he would return. Well, he's out the 20 25th and move one degree. That means he's alive. as he comes back"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "over the equator to the northern equator"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "the ancient Egyptians celebrated spring and they said that the sun you know we"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:40", "text": "say today when when someone dies that they passed away or grandmother passed"}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:46", "text": "last night or they passed on pass means they died the Egyptians said"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "that God's son who was the light of the world has died for three days, but he has come back to life. December 25th,"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "Christmas, we celebrate God's son's birthday. Yeah. The son's birthday. And"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "as it comes back across the equator, we celebrate what is called spring because now he is springing back to life. And"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "so, as it passes over the equator, the ancient Egyptians celebrated something called the Passover because in the first"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:21", "text": "week of spring, it passes over the equator. So, it became known as the Passover. And so today we have Jews"}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:27", "text": "celebrating the Passover, which is the sun in spring, passing over the equator. Well, the Christians have got to do the"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "same thing, but but they don't want to have anything to do with the Jewish religion for God's sakes. Well, what"}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "would that look like? So, they wouldn't have anything to do with the Jewish religion. So, they have the Christian religion, which is the actual truth. And"}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "in the real truth, uh, it's the resurrection, we say, of God's son. The resurrection said, \"What the hell are"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "you talking about? Resurrection. It came back to life. It's a resurrection. It's a Passover. Get out, you know, get a"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "life. It's just the sun passing over the equator for God's sake. You know that better than anybody else. It's all"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "worship of the sun. And so that's why in in the middle ages and in the middle uh"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "east in what we call Phoenicia, Kaa Egypt, they had a celebration"}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "in and celebrating Easter or what we call Easter. And it is actually Easter. Easter is the"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "the goddess who comes back. Aar. And so we celebrate her coming back. She's coming back to life. And as it passes"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "over the equator, we equate that sun passing over the over the equator with Virgo the virgin. So God's son is now"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "born of a virgin. Yeah. Virgo the virgin. And uh you know that's why"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "Leonardo da Vinci when he painted the last supper and he has 12 apostles the"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "three and three. Three and three. There are four groups of three. Yes. Spring, summer, autumn, winter. get a life. If"}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:55", "text": "the son's in the middle and the sun's in the middle, this is why there's a 12 apostles plus the god's son is 13. 13 is"}, {"start": "00:39:55", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "an unlucky number. It goes into masonry. I could explain this whole thing. And uh there's so much"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "to tell you. I don't even know where the hell to start with this stuff. I could go on for hours explaining how"}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "the Masons knew that they were going to overthrow the existing government in America in 1776"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "because in in in ancient Hebrew theology 8 was the number of new beginnings."}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "Eight in the Hebrew ancient Hebrew theology eight the number eight was a"}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "number of new beginnings. You start things over on an eight. So eight was"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "the only number. Eight was the only number that you can continue to draw without picking your pen up, without picking the pencil up because it goes on"}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:44", "text": "forever. So therefore, you lay an eight down, it becomes infinity. It go on for forever. So eight is the number of new"}, {"start": "00:40:44", "end": "00:40:52", "text": "beginnings and 13 was in ancient philosophy 13 was a perfect number for government. Perfect number is God's son"}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "with his chosen 12. That's a perfect government. 12 apostles with their master of the son is perfect government."}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "So the Masons decided they were going to have the revolution against England according to the astrological symbols."}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "They knew what they were doing. So they said the revolution must happen in 1776"}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:18", "text": "and it must happen in July because of the constellations that will be visible in the heavens in July will facilitate"}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "the revolution. They knew astrology. So they had their revolution in 1776 which"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:33", "text": "is 1 and 7 is 8 and 7 and 6 is 13. So it's the perfect government based on the"}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "perfect number of eight is new beginnings beginning something a new and 7 and six is 13 a new government. So the"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:45", "text": "Masons overthrew the British Empire. They knew they had to do it in 1776 and"}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "they had to do it at a particular point where the constellations were over the United States."}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "It's a fascinating study of how the people who run this planet."}, {"start": "00:42:00", "end": "00:42:07", "text": "If you enjoyed today's video on Anonymous Official, leave a like and subscribe if you haven't done so"}, {"start": "00:42:07", "end": "00:42:13", "text": "already. Thanks for watching and sticking with us."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "There was a non-aterrestrial officers"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "list and I can't remember the file name"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "of the spreadsheet but the heading on"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "the column was naterrestrial officers."}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "Here's your list of charges you hacked"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "into the army, the navy, the air force,"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "the department of defense and NASA"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "amongst other things. Why?"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "I was in search of suppressed"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "technology. Um, you know, laughingly"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "referred to as UFO technology. I think"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "it's the biggest kept secret in the"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "world because of its comic value."}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "Because he was like, I'm gonna find out"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "what the government knows about UFOs. So"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "he hacked into the systems, NSA, CIA,"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "DIA. But Gary McKinnon took it upon"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "himself, a computer hacker, to find out"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "if the government had proof of alien"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "visitation. And he spent a couple years"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "hacking systems and he found Yes,"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "there's UFO technology. Uh there's"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "anti-gravity, there's free energy, and"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "it is extraterrestrial in origin. And"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "we've captured spacecraft and reverse"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "engineered it."}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "We're using anti-gravity."}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "When I was about 12 or 13, I'm pretty"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "sure it was under 14. Anyway, I saw my"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "first and last actual sighting"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "of uh an unidentified flying object, you"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "know, light in the sky that I couldn't"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "explain. And uh I was looking from an"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "upstairs window"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "and uh this light went across from"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "almost vertical to the horizon in about"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "I don't know 3 to 5 seconds. Uh, it was"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "a pretty orangey red, but it was moving"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "in brownie motion in this arc. So, it"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "wasn't a clean arc. Literally, like what"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "the hell can move like that with such"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "speed and left and right, but just over"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "the horizon and that was it. Um, but"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "yeah, time goes on and you grow up and"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "you learn things and uh the darker side"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "of the politics surrounding UFOs."}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "Um, I learned some more a lot more about"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "that. You just imagine that some group"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "of people has this technology somewhere."}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "There's so much evidence for it."}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "He knew the answers were out there and"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "if no one else would look for them, he"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "would. Your personal information is out"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "there exposed and vulnerable. It's on"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "you to protect yourself. That's why we"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "trust and personally use Aura, today's"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "sponsor. Aura does all the heavy lifting"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "to keep you safe online. They take"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "action against these data brokers and"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "companies who are selling your personal"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "information. Going after them directly,"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "you don't have to lift a finger. Aura"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "handles it. But that's not all. Here's"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "where it gets even more serious. Aura"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "doesn't just stop there. They"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "continuously monitor the dark web for"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "any trace of your personal data. If they"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "find your information floating around in"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "places it shouldn't be, Aura will alert"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "you immediately. They'll let you know"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "fast if anyone is trying to use that"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "data to access your credit accounts or"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "even drain bank accounts. And if the"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "worst happens to you, Aura has you"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "covered. They offer up to $5 million in"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "identity theft insurance to help you"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "recover if someone gets a hold of your"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "information and tries to do real damage."}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "Don't wait until it's too late. Head"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "over to our link or aura.com/anonymous"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "to try Aura free for 14 days. That's"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "plenty of time for Aura to find out if"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "any of your personal data is exposed and"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "start protecting you from these threats."}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "Now, let's get right into it. Here, the"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "interviewer asks him directly, \"How did"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "he hack them? What did he find?\" And"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "this is where things start to get"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "interesting. How did you go about"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "hacking into the computers to find what"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "you were looking for?"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "Well, unlike the press would have you"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "believe, it wasn't very clever. Um, I"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "searched for blank passwords. Um, I"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "wrote a tiny Pearl script, the Pearl"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "language, that tied together other"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "people's programs that searched for"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "blank passwords. So, you could scan"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "65,000 machines in just over 8 minutes."}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "So, you went and actually access 65,000"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "machines sitting on, I guess, 65,000"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "desks in different buildings. Um, no."}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "Cuz all 65,000 aren't necessarily live"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "yet. You might find typically 5,000"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "might be live and out of that 500 might"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "be Windows machines, then 50 might have"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "blank administrator passwords, which is"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "a pretty bad ratio of uh the world's"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "largest military."}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "So, you're saying that you found"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "computers which had a high ranking"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "status, administrator status. It"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "happened between 2001 and 2002, a time"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "where the internet still felt small,"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "quiet, almost innocent. While most"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "people were just discovering email, one"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "man sitting alone in a flat in North"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "London was breaking into the most secure"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "networks on Earth. No masks, no team, no"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "money trail, just a dialup connection,"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "and a belief that somewhere inside NASA"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "and the US military, there were files"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "the public was never meant to see. What"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "followed would become the biggest"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "military computer hack in history. A"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "digital breach that shook the Pentagon,"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "NASA, and the Department of Defense. For"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "months, McKinnon quietly wandered"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "through their systems, sometimes even"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "leaving polite messages on their"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "screens. He wasn't deleting files or"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "causing damage. He was searching. And"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "when the story broke, it hit every major"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "news outlet. CNN, BBC, and The Guardian"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "called him the man who hacked the"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "Pentagon from his bedroom. But behind"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "the headlines was something deeper. Gary"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "claimed he wasn't looking for passwords"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "or defense secrets. He was looking for"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "proof of something far stranger. Proof"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "that alien life and advanced technology"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "were being hidden from the world. And"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "soon the evidence he stumbled upon would"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "make even the most skeptical journalists"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "pause."}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "And what did you use that to do?"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "Um, I was searching for files and"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "evidence in relation to the UFO"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "question. Were you the only hacker to"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "make it in, you know, past the the"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "slightly lower than expected lines of"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "defense?"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "Yeah, exactly. There were no lines of"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "defense. Um there was a permanent"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "tendency of foreign hackers. Uh you"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "could run a command when you're on the"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "machine that showed connections from all"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "over the world. I'd check the IP address"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "to see if it was another military base"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "or whatever and it wasn't. Um the"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "General Accounting Office in America has"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "again published another damning report"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "saying that federal security is very"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "very poor. So, let's get this straight."}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "While you were on a machine inside one"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "of these computers in the Department of"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "Defense, say there were other hackers"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "logged onto that machine as well from"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "around the world."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "Yeah. You run your NetStack command and"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "you see the list, you know, Turkey,"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "Germany, Holland, you know, everywhere."}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "It sounds unbelievable, but he wasn't"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "the only one inside. While Gary was"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "exploring the digital corridors of the"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "US military, other connections were"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "lighting up on the same machines from"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "Turkey, Germany, Holland, and places no"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "one could explain."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "It was as if half the world had a key to"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "the Pentagon, and no one noticed. The US"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "General Accounting Office would later"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "confirm it. Military cyber security was"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "shockingly weak. No firewalls, no"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "monitoring, no alerts. A single person"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "from a London apartment had managed to"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "walk into NASA's network. What Gary saw"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "exposed more than just hidden files. It"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "exposed a system built on illusion. And"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "the craziest part, it could all be done"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "from a computer you'd find in any living"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "room."}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "Do you have any tips to stop hackers"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "like yourself from getting into"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "computers within companies or within"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "homes?"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "Yeah, first of all, have a password."}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "Don't have blank passwords. Um I think"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "your first line of defense is um stuff"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "that's already part of Windows. Um so as"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "well as having a good password in the"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "office environment, you should enforce"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "log on log off hours so no one can log"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "on before or after office hours. Simple"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "tweak to make in the window security. Uh"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "make sure everyone turns off the"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "machines at night when they go home from"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "the office or make sure you turn off"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "your router at night if you got"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "broadband and you go to bed at night."}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "Turn off the remote registry service."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "There was there's a group called the"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "disclosure project. uh they published a"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "book which had um 400 expert witnesses"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "ranging from civilian air traffic"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "controllers through military radar"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "operators right up to the chats that are"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "responsible as to whether or not to"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "launch nuclear missiles to some very"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "credible very relied upon people um all"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "saying that yes there's UFO technology"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "uh there's anti-gravity there's free"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "energy and it is extraterrestrial in"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "origin and we've captured spacecraft and"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "reverse engineered it and these are you"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "know very solid reliable chaps in charge"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "of launching nuclear missiles so"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "what did you find inside NASA."}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "Uh, one of these people was a NASA"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "photographic expert and she said that in"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "building 8 of Johnson Space Center. Um,"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "they regularly airbrushed out images of"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "UFOs from the high-res satellite imagery"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "and using the same blank password"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "hunting technique, I got down to"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "building 8. Um, got a few blank"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "passwording machines there. And what she"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "said was there was there there was"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "folders called filtered and unfiltered"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "or processed and raw, something like"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "that. Um, I got one picture out of the"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "folder. Bearing in mind this is a 56k"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "dialup. This is"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "a very slow internet connection."}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "I'm criy. Yeah, I mean, you know, dialup"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "days."}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "Um, a 235 megabyte picture. And if"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "you're talking 5 minutes a megabyte,"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "honestly, impossible to download. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "also in a NAZA proprietary image format,"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "not a GIF or a JPEG or anything. So,"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "using the remote control program, I"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "turned the color down to 4bit color, the"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "screen resolution really, really low."}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "And even then, this picture was still,"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "you know, judging and coming onto the"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "screen. But what came onto the screen"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "was amazing. It was a culmination of all"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "my efforts. It was a picture of"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "something that definitely wasn't"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "man-made. Um, it was above the Earth's"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "hemisphere. It was kind of looked like a"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "satellite. It was cigar- shaped. It had"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "um geodic domes above, below, to the"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "left, to the right, and both ends of uh"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "and although it was a low resolution"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "picture, it was very close up. Um this"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "thing was hanging in space. the Earth's"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "hemisphere was visible below it and um"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "no rivets, no seams, none of the stuff"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "associated with normal man-made"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "manufacturing."}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "What's interesting is that parts of"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "Gary's story aligned with how NASA"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "actually operated at that time. During"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "those years, building 8 at the Johnson"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "Space Center was indeed responsible for"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "processing and archiving satellite"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "imagery before it was released to the"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "public. Multiple former contractors have"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "confirmed that image filtering was"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "common practice back then officially to"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "remove classified satellites or"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "sensitive details. So when Gary"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "mentioned folders labeled filtered and"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "unfiltered, that wasn't science fiction."}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "That was exactly how NASA handled their"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "raw and public data sets during that"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "era. Even the format he described, the"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "proprietary NASA image files, was real."}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "The agency used a system called FITS and"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "several in-house formats incompatible"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "with normal image viewers. So, yes, what"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "Gary saw fits perfectly with what was"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "there, both technically and"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "procedurally."}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "Is it possible this is an artist's"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "impression?"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "Um, I don't know. No, for me it was too"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "co more than coincidence. I mean, this"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "woman had said this is what happens in"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "this building, in this space center. I"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "went into that building, that space"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "center, and saw exactly that. And the"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "folders were even called unprocessed and"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "processed or raw and filtered or"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "something. So,"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "and maybe that was the confirmation he'd"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "been searching for. Everything matched,"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "the building, the folders, even the"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "format. Too precise to be a coincidence,"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "too convenient to be an accident. It's"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "the kind of moment where curiosity turns"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "dangerous, where truth and trespass"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "become the same thing. And from here on,"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "someone somewhere was watching him very"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "closely."}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "Do you have a copy of this? It came down"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "to your machine."}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "Uh, no. It came the graphical remote"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "viewer works frame by frame. It's a Java"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "application. Um, so it's not nothing"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "saved on your hard drive or at least if"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "it is only, you know, one frame at a"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "time. Might be."}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "So, did you get one frame?"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "Nope."}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "What happened?"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "Well, once I was cut off and uh my"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "picture disappeared, I was"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "You actually cut off at the time you"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "were downloading the picture?"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "Yeah. I saw the guy's hand move across."}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "And bear in mind, you're not downloading"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "it. You're viewing it remotely. So, in a"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "way, it is downloading because the"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "picture's coming from there to yours,"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "but you're not downloading it as a named"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "file to your hard drive. You're viewing"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "it through an application. And also, I"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "thought that was safe there. I didn't"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "think I'd be caught, you know, 3/4 of"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "the way through of looking at the first"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "picture I'd looked at. And also, I was"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "amazed that it was how she said it would"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "be."}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "So, you were cut off while you were"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "looking at this picture."}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "A few months later, you were caught."}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "What happened on that day? For something"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "that was supposed to be nothing more"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "than a hoax, the punishment didn't match"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "the crime. Gary was facing a lifetime"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "behind bars. And that alone tells you"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "this wasn't just about hacking. But then"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "something strange happened. Instead of"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "being locked away forever, he was"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "released. No public trial, no leaked"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "evidence, just silence."}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "Some believe that's when the story"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "changed. That the narrative was"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "rewritten from the inside out. A deal"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "made in the shadows. freedom in exchange"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "for a version of the truth that ends"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "right before the full image loads."}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "Others say he's allowed to talk, but"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "only in fragments, never the whole"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "picture. And ever since that day, he's"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "been silenced. And maybe that's why his"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "story feels unfinished. Because"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "sometimes the silence is the evidence."}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "You don't have to see the image. You"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "just have to ask why the moment he saw"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "it, everything changed. But let's go"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "back to the one thing that started this"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "entire chain of events, the"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "non-aterrestrial officers, because"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "buried in that single spreadsheet might"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "be the reason everything else happened."}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "But I scan and look for documents, etc.,"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "etc., and I found an Excel spreadsheet"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "that was actually called or at least in"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "the heading of the column, it said"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "non-aterrestrial officers. I was like,"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "God, that's just"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "non-restterrestrial officers."}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "Non-aterrestrial officers with um ranks"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "and names. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "And uh then a separate sheet uh with"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "tabs for material transfer between"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "ships. And these were I mean I don't"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "remember the names now. That's a long"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "time ago. A lot of people give me a hard"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "time for not remembering the names and"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "stuff, but it was a long time ago,"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "But non-aterrestrial officer thought,"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "well, it must be let's try and cut out"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "all the possible um conventional"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "explanations first. I searched for that"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "term. It was nowhere. It was nowhere at"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "all. Now, if you search for the term,"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "you only find links to me and right"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "stuff that I've said."}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "Right. I see. I see."}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "So, it wasn't a standard thing in the"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "military at all."}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "Um, so I took that to be they must have"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "a space-based a secret space-based."}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "So, the non-aterrestrial officers what?"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "It couldn't be astronauts."}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "It could be. I mean, that's the thing."}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "It's up to you how you interpret that,"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "isn't it? Right."}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "But these ships were called USS whatever"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "and USS whatever."}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "So, they started with USS."}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "Yeah. So, that that implies navy. And I"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "think the Navy the Navy do a lot of"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "space stuff the US Navy"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "and and how many officers names would"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "would you estimate were listed and how"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "many ships were listed"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "probably oh god I think there's probably"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "one screen full of officers names so"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "what's that 25 rows spreadsheet"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "and these were low resolution days as"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "well so you're talking about 800 by 600"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "screens not very big"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "uh but the ships was probably I don't"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "know a third"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "question so estimate how many different"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "ship names you saw Oh god, maybe 8 10."}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "8 or 10."}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "And am I right in thinking that you then"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "tried to search for those specific"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "names?"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "Oh yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "Right. And"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "didn't find a thing."}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "Right. So you think that they could be"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "classified?"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "Not the names of the people, the names"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "of the ships."}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "Yeah. But they could be classified uh"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "secret or top secret names of some sort"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "of craft or ship."}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "Yeah. Obviously not public."}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "Maybe that's where the story really"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "begins. Not with the hack itself, but"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "with what it revealed. Because if even a"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "fraction of what Gary found was real,"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "then the world is operating on a truth"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "far larger than what we've been told."}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "Since then, the files have vanished. The"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "systems have changed, and Gary has"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "remained silent. No one knows what he"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "truly saw or what he might still be"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "keeping to himself. But what's strange"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "is how it all ended. A man facing 60"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "years in prison, suddenly free. a"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "confession that feels incomplete and a"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "truth that now lives only in fragments."}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "Some say they let him go because the"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "damage was done. Others believe they"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "needed him to rewrite the story to turn"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "truth into noise. But you don't threaten"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "a man with a lifetime behind bars for"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "seeing nothing. And maybe that's the"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "real mystery. Not what he found, but why"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "we were never meant to see it."}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "If you enjoyed today's video on"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "Anonymous Official, leave a like and"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "subscribe if you haven't done so"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "already."}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "Thanks for watching and sticking with"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "us."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "3i Atlas was discovered on July 1st by"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "the Atlas telescope in Chile. It"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "originated from outside our solar system"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "and will exit permanently after"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "perihelion threeey atlas is the size of"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "Manhattan which makes it too big for a"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "typical comet. Its path through our"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "solar system has it skimming right by"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "Venus, Mars, and Jupiter in a fine-tuned"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "path that has a 0.005% 005% chance of"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "being natural. It is producing its own"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "light and it has a sunward-facing tail"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "glowing in front of it which is very"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "unusual for a comet. Based on these"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "details, Harvard astrophysicist Avi Loe"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "suggests the object could be artificial."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "But the symbolism behind it goes much"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "further. Comets and other planetary"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "objects in the sky have been seen as way"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "signs for a new age, a new era or great"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "change for thousands of years of written"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "history. In the Bible, there is wormwood"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "which appears seven times in the Old"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "Testament and once in Revelation. It is"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "associated with bitterness and death."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "Ancient Hindu writings speak of Dumaetu,"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "a fiery comet marking the end of an age"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "and the dawn of the next cosmic cycle."}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "The Mayans wrote of the Kukulan comet"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "that would be seen during the shift into"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "the new world. And the Hopi wrote of the"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "blue star Kacina that would usher in the"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "fifth world after a purification. The"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "cataclysmic shifts recorded in the epic"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "of Gilgamesh from ancient Mesopotamia"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "involves a passing planetary object"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "called Niberu."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "Nostradamus described comets and objects"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "in the sky marking the birth of a new"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "age. And the three eye in threeey atlas"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "points to the third eye, the third"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "ventricle in the brain and the awakening"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "of consciousness in a human being which"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "is what the astrology suggests as well."}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "During its parahhelion, there will be a"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "grand water trine, a rare event where"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "three planets in the three water signs"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "form an equilateral triangle. Mars,"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "Jupiter, and Saturn, the three most"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "influential planets, will all be in"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "water signs. This symbolizes cleansing,"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "purification, adaptability, and the"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "transformative power of flow. In Western"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "occult philosophy, comets are active"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "agents of spiritual forces that drive"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "human evolution by introducing new"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "cosmic impulses into our planetary"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "system. Overall, comets represent the"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "creative forces that disrupt earthly"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "routine and introduces new qualities and"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "impulses to human evolution. Just as a"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "woman brings a new child into the"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "family, the comet injects a new dynamic"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "into human spiritual growth. According"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "to the teachings of Rudolph Steiner, as"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "a comet passes over us, it collects"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "harmful spiritual substances, which are"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "then carried away and transformed. As"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "they pass, they also introduce new"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "spiritual energies that accelerate"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "humanity's evolutionary process. But"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "that's not to say it makes things"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "easier. He said that the 1910 appearance"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "of Haley's comet would bring a new"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "impulse that could deepen materialism"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "and distract humanity from its spiritual"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "path. And in 1913, the Federal Reserve"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "Bank was born, the epitome of spiritual"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "rot. Steiner taught that humanity's"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "evolutionary leap requires the"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "individual's deliberate choice, and that"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "one must persist in the shadow of"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "darkness in order to raise their"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "consciousness."}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "For decades, teams of scientists and"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "researchers of many backgrounds have"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "been studying what one could call the"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "pyramidal effect, a measurable"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "disturbance in the energy field"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "surrounding a pyramidal structure. Some"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "researchers have concluded that the"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "shape of the pyramid causes the"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "surrounding subtle energies to resonate"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "with the frequency of the earth's"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "magnetic field, creating an amplified"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "field of energy around the pyramid with"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "healing properties for all within it."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "3,000 years ago, the Chinese called this"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "healing energy chi and the Hindus called"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "it prana. In the 19th century, Helena"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "Bllovsky called it astral light and"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "Wilhelm Reich called it orone. Today,"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "many people call this quantum energy, an"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "energy which is said to be the source of"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "all physical matter that exists, a"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "subtle energy that appears to amass in"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "the space of a pyramid structure."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "Researchers have observed accelerated"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "plant growth within simple"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "pyramid-shaped structures. People have"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "used this energy for food preservation"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "by storing perishables in a pyramidal"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "structure which has been shown to slow"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "down food spoilage. Studies have shown"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "that housing rats in a pyramid reduced"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "oxidative stress. Scientist and former"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "defense contractor Alexander Golo has"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "been studying this pyramidal effect. He"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "held an experiment where prisoners were"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "fed pyramid treated table salt which"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "reportedly resulted in a significant"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "decrease of violence. And he has built"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "several pyramids in Russia for people to"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "sit inside of and experience the"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "effects."}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "Russian and German physicists learned"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "that the pyramid's dimensions, its inner"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "chambers, and the limestone substrate it"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "sits upon scatters the surrounding"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "electromagnetic energy, concentrates it"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "within the inner chambers, and forces"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "them into the ground beneath. It has"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "been found that a pyramidal shape can"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "cause quantum dots to emit polarized"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "light, which is light that vibrates in"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "only one direction."}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "Standing over 220 m high, the Pyramid of"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "the Sun in Bosnia is the tallest pyramid"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "in the world. It has the typical pyramid"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "geometry and is coated by rectangular"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "blocks of concrete superior to modern"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "concrete and made of the local clay. In"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "2010, physicists were able to measure a"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "constant beam of energy shooting up"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "through the top of the pyramid 4 1/2 m"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "wide. In 2011, experts in ultrasound"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "measured an electromagnetic frequency of"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "28 kHz at the top of the pyramid."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "Several researchers have verified this,"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "and computer simulations reveal that in"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "its current state, the pyramid is"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "generating its own electromagnetic"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "signature, distinctly different than the"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "Earth and its surroundings, its own"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "field of energy."}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "Rudolph Steiner, whose teachings led to"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "anthroposophical medicine, biodnamic"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "farming, and the Waldorf school, said"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "that the heart is a seven-sided regular"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "form that sits in an imaginary box in"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "the chest. Regular means that all seven"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "sides are identical. Plato described"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "five platonic solids, and Steiner said"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "there was a sixth one. He also said that"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "the heart is not a pump. This fantastic"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "claim was vindicated by Frank Chester,"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "who figured out how to design a"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "seven-sided regular form. This sixth"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "platonic solid is now called the"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "chested, and it fits perfectly inside a"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "cube at an angle of 36\u00b0 off center to"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "the left, the exact same angle that the"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "heart sits in the chest. When submerged"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "in water and spun, two counterrotating"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "vortices are formed. Recent scientific"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "studies have shown that these two"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "vortices facilitate the closing of the"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "valves and when the vortices don't form"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "properly, blood clots will appear. The"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "man who unfolded a thousand hearts, Paco"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "Torrent Guasp discovered that the heart"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "is a single muscular band folded over"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "itself in a spiraling pattern. The heart"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "itself is a vortex of tissue. It is not"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "a pump. It is a vortex machine."}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "For centuries, it was believed that"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "matter can only exist in three states,"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "such as water, which can exist as"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "liquid, ice, and vapor. Human cells are"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "70% water, but most of this water is not"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "in any of these three states. We have"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "recently learned that with water, there"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "is a fourth state. This fourth state is"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "called the plasma state, gel phase,"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "exclusion zone, or structured water. And"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "this is what pushes your blood through"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "the entire cardiovascular system. Fueled"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "by infrared energy from its environment."}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "The water in our body becomes an"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "electrical propulsion system. A certain"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "percentage of the water in our body"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "becomes structured water and the rest"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "remains normal liquid water or bulk"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "water. The structured water becomes"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "negatively charged and forms the"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "gelatinous outer walls of our"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "capillaries, veins and arteries. These"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "negatively charged outer walls"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "continuously propel the positively"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "charged bulk water within carrying the"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "blood with it. This propulsion system"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "will run indefinitely so long as it"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "stays charged. And the way you charge it"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "is with the earth's electromagnetic"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "field, infrared energy, and positive"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "thought. The work of Dr. Misaru Emoto"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "has scientifically demonstrated that"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "water exposed to loving human words and"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "thoughts is transformed into its natural"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "hexagonal shape. It becomes structured"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "at a molecular level based on our"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "positive intention. This new model shows"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "that it is the blood that pumps the"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "heart, not the other way around. And in"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "order to keep the flow strong and"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "healthy, our best medicine is to connect"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "to the earth, get sunlight, love"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "ourselves, and love one another with"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "physical touch."}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "Victor Shawberger spent his life"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "studying water and found that in the"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "natural world, water will always create"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "vortices along its path. Shawberger"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "learned that this spiral action is what"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "structures the water in nature and that"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "when subjected to modern man-made water"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "treatment, it loses its structure."}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "Shawberger's work led him to believe"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "that one could generate energy out of a"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "vortex. He described it as an energy"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "implosion as opposed to an energy"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "explosion."}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "Dr. Tom Cowan who has written about this"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "in human heart cosmic heart has an"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "interesting theory which may explain the"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "saying a heart of gold. Another recent"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "discovery is that gold in its purest"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "form does not appear to be gold at all."}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "Under the right conditions normal"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "physical gold can be transformed into a"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "fine white powder known as monotomic"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "gold. This monotomic gold has been"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "studied by multiple advanced"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "laboratories and it has very strange"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "properties. It can be made to levitate"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "and disappear. Monotomic gold is"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "superconductive and many would argue"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "that this is what the alchemists were"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "after. One of the ways of turning"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "metallic gold into monotomic gold is by"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "putting it through a high-speed vortex."}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "When this transformation occurs, there"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "is a flash of light and a 44% loss in"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "weight. Dr. Cowan believes that the"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "trace amounts of gold in our blood is"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "transformed into monotomic gold as it"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "travels through the double vortices in"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "the heart, creating the spark of life."}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "If you enjoyed today's video on"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "Anonymous Official, leave a like and"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "subscribe if you haven't done so"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "already."}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "Thanks for watching and sticking with"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "us."}]

[{"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "When Tucker Carlson sits down with Alex"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "Jones, you know something big is coming."}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "But this time, it's beyond politics."}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "It's a chilling warning about the"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "endgame of global power. A system"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "designed not just to control your money,"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "but your freedom, your movement, your"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "very existence. When gold crosses 4,000,"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "I don't understand why that's not like"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "front page news. Because to me that may"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "you're better at this than I but that"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "means that the cumulative effect of"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "everything we're discussing has been to"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "destroy the US dollar."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "When you read what even all Goldman"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "Sachs, JP Morgan, the IMF, the World"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "Bank, the XM bank, it's not even"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "debated. They've decided in the last"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "really 3 four years that they're going"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "to deal with monetary debt worldwide,"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "both corporate, governmental,"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "individual, with inflation. And Trump"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "recognizes that and has said fine, we'll"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "have inflation with expansion and"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "expansion of goods. And all the"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "economists agree that that will have"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "some pain, but overall uh will be"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "something that could actually be"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "successful. If you have the leftist UN"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "WEF great reset postindustrial carbon"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "tax plan, you will have stagflation"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "which is high inflation but a ongoing"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "recession depression which is the"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "perfect storm of hell on earth. Uh and"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "that is what the UN and the globalists"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "directly want to create a worldwide surf"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "system of more manageable slaves in"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "their official policies. break down the"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "borders with first world and third"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "world, not to rise up the third world"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "economically, but to lower everybody"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "down to a level. Then the globalists say"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "they'll have small compact city states"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "and rural city states like the Hunger"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "Games where they have medicine,"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "technology, and everything and then just"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "basically fly above us and we're going"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "to be put into a agrarian situation with"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "a much reduced uh world population. So,"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "that's the official great reset"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "post-industrial June 21, June 2030 uh"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "policy. And there's nothing more"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "frustrating than than reading all their"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "policy books and the legislation and the"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "treaties and and then and then seeing it"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "carried out, which is the purposeful"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "planned uh depopulation of the earth"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "through slow starvation and and and"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "resources being restricted and and the"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "conflict that comes with when when"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "resources are constricted."}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "This isn't conspiracy. It's the"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "collision of finance, politics, and"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "ideology at the highest level."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "Tucker Carlson just opened the door for"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "a conversation no one in the mainstream"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "dares to have. And Alex Jones just"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "kicked it off its hinges. The question"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "now is simple. How much time is left"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "before the Great Reset becomes the great"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "reality? And then I see Trump massively"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "increasing energy production. And then"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "going to Saudi Arabia and having them"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "increase energy production, which hurts"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "US oil production, but helps the world"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "in general lower inflation and get real"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "money in the hands of people. That's the"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "biggest benefit. And then no tax on"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "tips, no tax on overtime, all the things"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "he's doing. 10 trillion committed in in"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "investment, several trillion already"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "here. All of that is exactly what you do"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "if you want to help the people and build"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "a middle class and a sustainable,"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "thriving uh country and world. building"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "back our morale and and nationalism and"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "the family and God. Trump gets an A+ on"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "all of that, but he needs to get"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "message and not say, \"Oh, the left are"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "idiots. They don't know how to manage"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "things.\" No, the globalists admit that"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "they want a post-industrial world."}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "That's John Kerry said last year, we got"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "to cut off half the farming or people"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "will starve. That's what causes"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "starvation, obviously. And they want to"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "cut the resources off so they can manage"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "and control people. That's why in the"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "Netherlands and in Ireland and and in"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "Sri Lanka, all over, they're cutting off"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "massive amounts of the farming, taking"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "some of the best farming land ever and"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "saying, \"Sorry, your cows pass gas. It's"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "bad for the earth.\" That is deliberate"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "sabotage of the of the world economy to"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "cause a collapse than the banksters can"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "loan us more money, bring in a new"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "cashless society, social credit score."}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "That is the endgame plan. And they talk"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "about carbon lockdowns for the earth"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "where you'll be told when you can leave"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "your house during carbon lockdowns."}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "you'll be told when you can leave your"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "15-minute city. This is a very"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "totalitarian"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "hellscape uh dystopia sci-fi vision they"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "have. And Trump is 95% I would say in"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "opposition to it even with his limited"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "understanding. He and by limited I mean"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "he's smart about the economy but doesn't"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "understand it's deliberate."}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "And he goes, \"Oh, they're really dumb."}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "These are the worst ideas I ever heard."}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "Is that why they're all unified decades"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "getting them in place? Is that why the"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "big banks and corporations are exempt?\""}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "No. It's feudalism. We don't have"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "resources. We don't have rights. They"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "all have the rights. That is the purest"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "form of economic control. It's the"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "oldest form of government. It's been the"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "most common form of government in world"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "history. And the UN and the globalist"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "say we're bringing back feudalism. Neo"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "feudalistic capitalism is what they call"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "it. But really, it's just slavery. And"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "that's what we're opposing. And that's"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "what the relaunch of the West is about."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "That's what Elon Musk understands."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "That's why this is a do or die"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "existential threat to everybody. And"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "people should just get on board. You"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "understand? And you researched the great"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "reset and you reset researched Larry"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "Fink now the head of the World Economic"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "Forum. You realize three years ago the"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "UN made the World Economic Forum"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "co-equal to its governing body uh and"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "its councils and you understand if you"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "actually read their writings the future"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "isn't human. People are bad, families"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "are bad. Uh we're going to have these AI"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "gods that take over. I mean it is just"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "the wildest thing that Lex Luthther in a"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "in a in a comic book couldn't come up"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "with. This is beyond super villain"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "stuff. this is real super demon stuff"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "and you have to identify the attack"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "you're under and that it's deliberate."}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "Then you have to mobilize and get good"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "legislators and governors and others"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "elected. Uh populists are getting"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "elected all over the world. People are"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "really waking up to this and we have uh"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "now these attorney generals winning"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "court cases from Texas and other places"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "where Black Rockck tried to come in and"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "say we're not going to have any"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "investment in your state uh if you don't"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "get rid of fossil fuels. And we and and"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "then Texas sued Kim Paxton and said this"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "is racketeering. This is illegal. They"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "won the court cases. It is because Larry"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "Frink says this is about control and"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "we're going to control you. Uh and and"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "they control us by managing our money."}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "Well, now a bunch of states are pulling"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "their pension funds from Black Rockck."}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "And now Larry Frink is singing a"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "different tune at least publicly and"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "they pulled some of their DEI and some"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "of the uh ESG stuff which is the"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "corporate governance. When you wonder"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "why whether you're in Australia, Germany"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "or the US or Canada, it's the same"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "policies, the same programs, the same"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "drag queen story times, the same take a"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "knee during the national anthem. All of"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "this comes out of them literally trying"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "to demoralize us because if we have a"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "free open society, people around the"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "world are going to want that. And you"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "can't have a control group where there's"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "some free prosperous western nations."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "Everybody else slaves under black rockck"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "and the globalist. That's why we got to"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "take down the west. So there's nowhere"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "to run."}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "It's really hard to"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "overstate how dangerous it is. It is"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "literally the mark of the beast system,"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "a global social credit score, the ESG,"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "corporate governance systems, right down"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "into your smart devices, your phone, the"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "smart appliances, the AI surveilling"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "everyone in lifetime. As you know,"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "China's already had it in place about 7"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "years. Uh, ground robots, drones being"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "directed by it. Uh, the goal is you"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "can't leave one foot outside your house."}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "to quote the Chinese communist"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "government, if"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "you're not in good standing, you can't"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "get on a train, you can't rent a car,"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "you can't rent a hotel, you can't have a"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "job. And the UN, the WF, and others for"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "decades, and Bill Gates has been heavily"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "involved, have already created the"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "standardization for this with China for"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "a global roll out of central bank"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "digital currencies that the nations then"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "comport to. And essentially it'll end up"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "being one big global corporate new"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "currency that would replace the dollar."}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "So Trump wisely in the last few years"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "said he is against any central bank"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "digital currency uh system and he would"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "oppose one foreign which is basically"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "what the bricks is forming and that he"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "would oppose one here and he has"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "supported Bitcoin and things that"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "actually diversify uh currencies to the"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "public that are free and you know you"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "know open and open source and a"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "competing market of currencies which is"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "uh the answer and so it's it's really"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "the ring of Sauron uh to to bind"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "everybody together with total total"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "control. And we we have the head of the"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "IMF and the World Bank and the"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "International Bank of Settlements and"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "the head of the UN and all of them. Uh"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "we have uh Ted Rose, the head of the WHO"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "saying we need a global central bank"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "digital currency"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "to control everything you do to lock you"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "down during new pandemics they've got"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "planned. This is the mechanism. It'll be"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "your internet ID. It it it'll do"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "everything. And if we think as populists"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "and conservatives and Christians and"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "common sense people that we've been"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "debanked and harassed as conservatives"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "before, uh this this is exponentially"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "more dangerous. And the big"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "international banks that the Federal"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "Reserve is part of private, they have"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "said this is their holy grail and"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "they're really really trying to roll it"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "out. And so the fact that there is a"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "pathway to this with a digital central"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "bank digital currency dollar in this"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "genius act and that only MTG and you and"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "a few others have been exposing it is a"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "nightmare. But"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "11th hour we shot down thanks to you and"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "others exposing it when they had"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "mainly uh"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "pro votes for it. A large majority were"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "supporting the AI liability protection"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "for 10 years from the states and"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "individuals where AI would basically be"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "above the law and could do whatever it"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "wanted. Uh that was just a blank check."}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "We were able to then shoot that down in"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "the big beautiful bill 99 uh to one"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "vote. Uh and so I think as we expose uh"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "this section"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "of the Genius Act. I believe that we can"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "probably get that pulled out as well"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "because I would imagine uh you know"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "Trump sticks to his guns, understands"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "this, and I don't think that Trump"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "probably even knows about this at this"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "point. You might go have lunch with him"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "again and you know uh update him on"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "what's happening. But I think if we"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "cause a big enough stink about this, uh"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "we can shoot this down. But at the end"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "of the day, it's a threat to the dollar."}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "If you enjoyed today's video on"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "Anonymous Official, leave a like and"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "subscribe if you haven't done so"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "already."}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "Thanks for watching and sticking with"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "us."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Well, today is the day, folks."}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "Parihelion"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "for three eye atlas, as it's called."}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "It's the weird interstellar object"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "that's heading our way. Parihelion is at"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "its closest point to the sun. That's"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "what that means. Now, to be clear, this"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "object will be behind the sun to to my"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "understanding. But but why is NASA"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "refusing to allow us to see these"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "highdefinition images? Why is NASA being"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "so cy about this thing? It's very"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "bizarre."}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "What is it? Is it just a comet or is it"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "some interstellar spacecraft?"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "We don't know."}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "Who knows? Why is NASA hiding all of"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "this? Well, I know there's a government"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "shutdown, etc., etc. You can't release"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "you you could you you did manage to"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "release low res images if I'm not"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "mistaken, but you couldn't release the"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "high-res images that we know you have"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "access to because of the spacecraft and"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "other uh observation uh spacecraft on"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "Mars that passed right by Mars. Can you"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "talk about this?"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "And we were expecting for a very close"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "up high resolution uh image. Um the US"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "in that case have much higher resolution"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "cameras aboard their spacecraft than"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "there's uh Chinese and EU satellites"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "around um Mars as well, but they were"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "much lower resolution and they were the"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "only ones that were released. And to"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "this day, um, NASA through JPL have not"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "released the high resolution pictures."}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "Non-government organizations,"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "universities and people should be able"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "to be free from this and we should be"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "able to get the actual images. Uh, I'm"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "I'm shocked because that was a fantastic"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "opportunity to get very close to this"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "thing and actually um, you know, find"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "out what it's made of. But you're"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "absolutely right. There's lots of"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "satellites out there actually orbiting"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "the sun who are actually seeing it."}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "Let's not forget that there's other"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "countries with telescopes as well as the"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "US. Here in the US uh here in the EU we"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "have many um satellites who are actually"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "following it in telescopes. We can't"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "underestimate how brilliant it is that"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "it's come into our solar system and also"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "what how different it is. And it's this"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "difference of its composition of its"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "actual elements that make it up that's"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "not like us. It's not like anything we"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "have in our solar system. It's not made"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "by our star. It's come from somewhere"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "else because it's not from around here."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "So for example, uh a normal comet which"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "is coming from our solar system made of"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "all the stuff that you and me and"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "everything is made of. We know how they"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "behave. They're mainly made up um of"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "water. So when they get near the sun,"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "they evaporate and there's a big tail"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "coming out the back. Now this crazy guy"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "is probably made of different elements"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "and for example, it's had a tail coming"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "out the front and most of the gas coming"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "out the back is probably a cyanide gas"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "coming out of out of its metal"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "structure. So when I say it's behaving"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "badly, um it's actually just behaving"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "weirdly."}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "The investigators telling you for"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "several weeks now about a mysterious"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "object of unknown origin that fell from"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "the sky and crashed just near Area 51."}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "And tonight, the public is still in the"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "dark."}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "So that crash was quickly covered up"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "both literally and figuratively. 8 News"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "Now chief investigator George Knapp"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "thinks the official story is told by the"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "military is false. And we are lucky"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "because George joins us here in the"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "studio with more on what he's now dug"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "up. George."}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "Well, how quickly might the government"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "respond to a crash of an unknown object?"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "What happened back on September 23rd on"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "public land outside the boundary of Area"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "51 is a textbook example of how crash"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "retrievals work. And to no one's"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "surprise, pretty much everything told to"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "the public since then is pure fiction."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "You can you can see this in F F18."}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "Scanners and computers inside this room"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "listen to and record radio traffic"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "inside Area 51 round the clock. On the"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "morning of September 23rd, York Arnu"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "heard some astonishing news."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "Had my cup of coffee and I'm listening"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "to Area 51 security and all of a sudden"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "there's they get very serious. Lock down"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "the base. Arnu learned there had been a"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "large but totally secret air operation"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "in the middle of the night and that"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "something had gone wrong."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "So we just had an asset go down. We had"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "an asset go down. This is this is not"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "Cree security. This is Area 51 security"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "and they had an asset go down. And then"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "the next thing"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "that clear also show is a UAV unmanned"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "unmanned aircraft with ordinance. He"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "picked up details about strict security"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "measures which were implemented almost"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "immediately. Not only was Area 51 itself"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "locked down, but within a very short"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "time, so too was a large swath of the"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "Tekaboo Valley. It became clear that"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "some kind of craft had crashed miles"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "outside of Area 51's boundaries on"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "public land adjacent to Highway 375,"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "also known as the ET Highway. Arnu"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "jumped in his truck and headed south"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "from his home in Rachel. But while"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "driving on what's known as Mailbox Road,"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "he ran into an armed patrol."}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "They had the gun uh in front of them,"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "not pointed at me, but very visibly in"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "front of them, and it was clear they"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "meant business."}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "He backtracked and headed south on the"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "ET Highway to Groom Lake Road, the main"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "entrance to the base. It too was blocked"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "off by sheriff's deputies and military"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "security. A military helicopter with an"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "attached basket was sitting there,"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "presumably ready to haul out wreckage of"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "something. A pair of portaotties"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "suggested the team planned to be there"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "for a while."}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "Almost the entire Tiko Valley was shut"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "down."}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "At the Little Ali Inn in Rachel,"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "employees were in the dark about a"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "crash, but saw the beefed up security at"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "closed off roads and knew something big"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "was unfolding. Crashes are not an"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "everyday occurrence out here, but locals"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "have seen plenty of them over the"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "decades. If this thing would have"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "crashed anywhere in in in restricted"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "airspace in restricted area, we would"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "have never known about it."}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "After being turned away from the"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "presumed crash site, Arnu and the"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "aerospace sleuths on his website,"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "dreamland resort.com began gathering and"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "sharing bits and pieces of information."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "The FAA had ordered the closure of"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "airspace over a particular spot in the"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "valley. That was a big clue. Then 4 days"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "after the crash, the security teams"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "vanished. Aru went back out for a look."}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "The Air Force had used heavy equipment"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "to plow a dirt road across a section of"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "desert. Arnu followed it and found what"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "he thought was the crash site, then"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "shared it online. That's when things got"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "strange, even by Area 51 standards. A"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "second wave of cleanup crews descended"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "on the site, presumably to pick up any"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "remaining debris. But they also used"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "graders to cover the entire area with a"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "thick layer of dirt, literally a"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "coverup. Creech Air Force Base, which is"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "home to a fleet of Reaper drones and"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "other UAVs, issued a statement"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "explaining that the quoteun unmanned"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "aircraft, was one of theirs. The same"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "statement claimed someone had been"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "tampering with the crash site and had"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "scattered assorted pieces from other"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "aircraft along with an inert training"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "bomb. The Air Force said the FBI was"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "investigating this alleged tampering at"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "the site. Arnu was amused but not"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "convinced. Uh, the only thing they could"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "get that person for is littering on"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "public land."}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "That's the story is it came from Creech"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "and now the FBI is investigating. You"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "think that's bogus?"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "That's absolutely bogus. I think that"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "was designed to uh make people not go"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "Arnu drove back out and realized the"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "site he first videotaped was a staging"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "area, not the crash site. 200 yards"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "away, the telltale burn marks on Joshua"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "trees indicated this was where the"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "object slammed into the earth. Both he"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "and another aerospace explorer found"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "pieces of who knows what. Debris that"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "came from something other than a drone,"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "seemingly planted to confuse anyone who"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "came looking. But they also found pieces"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "under the dirt that are likely the real"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "thing."}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "I'm pretty sure that this piece came off"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "the actual aircraft. Arnu, who was at"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "the site of a genuine Reaper crash years"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "earlier, says there's no way the Air"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "Force could ever recover every piece of"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "a crashed aircraft. So, they added some"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "dirt and sprinkled in some misdirection"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "instead."}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "If I were them, I would probably do just"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "Is there a good guess about what"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "crashed? On the Dreamland Resort"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "website, members, including former"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "military and retired defense"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "contractors, chimed in. The leading"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "theory is that the drone was one of the"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "latest generation of AI controlled craft"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "that accompany advanced fighter planes"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "and can act independently to get the job"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "done."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "The next generation air dominance"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "project is the big thing at Area 51. So"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "the pilot flies along and says, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "there's a target on the ground, drone"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "one, go check it out, and if it's a bad"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "guy, take care of it.\" And drone one"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "goes and does the rest. If the military"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "wants to keep a secret about strange"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "things that fall out of the sky, they"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "have many tools at their disposal. Lock"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "down the base, seal off the public land,"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "put out a cover story, sprinkle some"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "disinformation over the whole thing."}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "Arnu says the middle of night operation"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "that ended with the crash is one of the"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "biggest he's ever heard of. Nicknamed"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "Black Flag, has a good idea which hanger"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "at the Area 51 base houses the unknown"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "drones, but is not willing to say more."}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "It is after all almost three years to"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "the day since FBI agents kicked in the"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "door of his home and carted away his"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "computers and cameras. No charges have"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "ever been filed. Back to you"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "and George. What I really like to say is"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "there's so much more behind a press"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "release. Right. That press release that"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "came in, the first one that we talked"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "about here said it was an incident."}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "Didn't even say it was a crash. Didn't"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "even say what it was. So there, you"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "know, really shows you how investigative"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "reporting can go a long way."}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "If you enjoyed today's video on"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "Anonymous Official, leave a like and"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "subscribe if you haven't done so"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "already."}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "Thanks for watching and sticking with"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "us."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "A lot of these uh companies that are"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "engaged in these uh mass surveillance or"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "the contractors really that are engaged"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "in in mass surveillance don't ultimately"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "have just watching what you're doing uh"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "as being enough for them. They're"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "ultimately interested in things like"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "predictive analytics and predictive"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "policing. So based on your behavior now"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "and your behavior in the past, they want"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "to use artificial intelligence to"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "determine what you may do in the future."}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "And in the case of predictive policing,"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "that would be well, we've determined"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "that you may commit a crime in the"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "future. And so we're going to uh you"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "know uh send you to uh a court-ordered"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "physician or you know detain issue house"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "arrest to protect to stop crime before"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "it happens essentially um is where a lot"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "of these companies Well, yeah. uh and"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "unfortunately it is that and there's a"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "lot of companies that have uh made um"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "massive inroads uh in in that type of"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "technology even though it's been hugely"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "discredited. Um there's several"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "companies I think the most notorious at"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "this point is called or was called PRRED"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "pole. They've since rebranded but they"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "were uh less accurate than a coin toss"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "and people were being uh you know"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "deprived of of their liberty uh because"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "of a of an algorithm that was hugely"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "inaccurate. uh and ultimately you know"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "if you look in the UK for example some"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "of these algorithms for facial"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "recognition have been rolled out even"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "though they've been shown over there too"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "to be hugely inaccurate and there's no"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "interest in changing uh vendors even"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "when this inaccuracy is demonstrated. So"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "to me that says that their goal is to"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "have us induce immed obedience by the"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "fact that you're being watched all the"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "time and anything you may do uh could be"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "used against you even if you're not"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "doing anything wrong now. um an"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "algorithm could determine that uh"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "certain you know errant behaviors uh"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "warrant you being added to a list of"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "some type and actually Larry Ellison of"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "Oracle who is one of the main founders"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "of Tony Blair's uh institute that's one"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "of the biggest pushers for digital ID uh"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "in the UK said this at an Oracle uh"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "shareholder meeting that you know we're"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "recording and surveilling everything and"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "citizens will be on their best behavior."}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "The reality is your personal information"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "is out there exposed and vulnerable."}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "It's on you to protect yourself. That's"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "why we trust and personally use Aura,"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "today's sponsor. Aura does all the heavy"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "lifting to keep you safe online. They"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "take action against these data brokers"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "and companies who are selling your"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "personal information. going after them"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "directly. You don't have to lift a"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "finger. Aura handles it. But that's not"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "all. Here's where it gets even more"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "serious. Aura doesn't just stop there."}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "They continuously monitor the dark web"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "for any trace of your personal data. If"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "they find your information floating"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "around in places it shouldn't be, Aura"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "will alert you immediately. They'll let"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "you know fast if anyone is trying to use"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "that data to access your credit accounts"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "or even drain bank accounts. And if the"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "worst happens to you, Aura has you"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "covered. They offer up to $5 million in"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "identity theft insurance to help you"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "recover if someone gets a hold of your"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "information and tries to do real damage."}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "Don't wait until it's too late. Head"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "over to our link aura.com/anonymous"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "to try Aura free for 14 days. That's"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "plenty of time for Aura to find out if"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "any of your personal data is exposed and"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "start protecting you from these threats."}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "A lot of them are are are you know I"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "would argue overtly and also covertly"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "globalist. Um you have people uh you"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "know in that network you just mentioned"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "serving for example on the steering"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "committee of the Bilderberg group uh"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "which is you know a well-known closed"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "door meeting uh globalist conflab um and"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "unfortunately um you know I think"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "they've been some of them anyway have"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "been able to characterize their policies"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "as uh libertarian for example uh even"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "though some of those same oligarchs are"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "on record saying that the free market is"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "for losers. uh if you want to get rich"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "build a monopoly and build monopolies uh"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "they have unfortunately uh but I think"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "again this is what uh I was saying"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "earlier about um the world economic"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "forum you know there's an effort to sell"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "this uh since they couldn't sell it from"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "the left uh the goal now is to try and"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "sell it somehow uh from the right uh and"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "to try and frame it under metrics and"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "dialectics that'll be more appealing uh"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "to the group that was most against these"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "policies just a few years ago. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "unfortunately, you know, with AI and all"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "of that, it potent we could happen. It"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "could happen if people aren't aren't"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "vigilant. You know, just a few years"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "ago, someone like Elon Musk was a major"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "promoter of things like carbon markets."}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "Mhm."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "Um, and pricing carbon, for example. And"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "that was actually why he had a falling"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "out with Trump in Trump's first"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "administration was because uh Trump"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "pulled out of the Paris agreements and"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "Elon Musk was like, \"Well, I can't have"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "that.\" Um, so have these oligarchs"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "really changed or have they instead"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "tried to make themselves more appealing"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "because they've noticed the change in"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "public opinion uh and want to uh try and"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "get you know us to continue to buy into"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "uh their solutions uh that they uh have"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "a lot of money to spend convincing us"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "are actually good and rebranding them."}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "So how"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "and again this is why I say it's"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "important to focus on the policies"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "specifically. How do we um well wait"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "before I get there, let let me go back"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "to digital ID. Tie this in to a digital"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "currency"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "cuz this is the this is the the highway"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "system for that, isn't it?"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "Sure. Yeah. Well, um Larry Fank is now"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "running, I believe, the World Economic"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "Forum. He's acting chairman. And uh in"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "addition to saying that everything Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "In addition to saying that everything"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "will be tokenized, he's uh said that"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "everything will soon be uh on the same"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "universal uh digital ledger or database."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "Um and that everything on that database"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "will have a unique identifier number. So"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "for you as an individual, your"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "identifier number uh will presumably be"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "your digital ID or directly linked to"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "that. But everything will have a digital"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "ID. Uh the tokenization agenda in"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "particular seeks to tokenize uh not just"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "you know assets that we traditionally"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "think of um like real estate for example"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "or or gold or you know physical assets"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "as well as digital"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "assets like Bitcoin. uh there's a a"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "major effort uh connected with people"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "like like Fank and also people like Mark"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "Carney who's now uh prime minister of of"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "Canada to tokenize uh the the natural"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "world and transform it into financial"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "assets and there was an attempt to do"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "this to an extent under the Biden"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "administration I believe through this"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "the department of interior uh with"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "natural asset corporations but that has"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "not gone away uh and there are groups um"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "for example uh one of the creators of"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "the ETF F uh model originally uh which"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "Black Rockck now now owns Eyesshares."}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "His name is Peter Kesz I think is how"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "you pronounce it. He's trying to turn um"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "the Amazon rainforest uh into a a"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "digital commodity uh sort of similar to"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "bear uh Bitcoin in terms of like the the"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "scarcity uh idea that you know each"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "hectare of the Amazon rainforest would"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "represent um you know a token and then"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "and then financialize it that way and"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "then each hectare would then be have its"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "unique identifier right on on the on the"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "blockchain"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "and and would be you know serviced"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "uh by surveillance drones and all sorts"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "of stuff. So even our most like natural"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "the places we conceptualize as the most"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "natural places on earth, these people"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "want to come in place surveillance"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "technology and you know tokenize it and"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "put it on a blockchain and use it to um"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "you know I would argue in the case"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "particularly of natural asset uh"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "corporations and the group behind it,"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "the intrinsic exchange group, um they"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "just want to open up a huge new asset"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "class. They call it nature's opportunity"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "so that they can continue engaging in"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "the same type of uh bad behavior that"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "for example bought us brought us the"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "2008 financial crisis u by you know uh"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "quintupling basically uh the amount of"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "assets currently in play. So apply this"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "now to the the phrase that we all heard"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "during the co era you'll own nothing and"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "be happy. Well, there's certain people"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "that want to own everything. And that"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "includes things that have never been"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "able to be owned before that were"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "considered things like the public"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "commons, like rivers, lakes, the ocean"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "itself, natural forests, all sorts of"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "it. These people want to put all of that"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "um into the financial system,"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "fractionalize it, tokenize it, and sell"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "piece of sell pieces of it around. Uh"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "you know, use it to speculate on. I mean"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "it's it's it's very bonkers. So"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "yeah, and so this is just one aspect of"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "the the digital currency play. Obviously"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "there's a lot more than that just going"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "on as well. Um I would argue that a lot"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "of this push particularly in the US. um"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "for dollar stable coin supposedly being"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "better than a central bank digital"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "currency also falls into this uh"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "paradigm we talked about earlier of you"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "know moving from the public to the"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "private of the public private"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "partnership because um a lot of these"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "stable coin issuers you know if the"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "concern the big concerns about uh CBDC's"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "was that they're seizable they're"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "surveillable and they're programmable"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "well all of those three things also can"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "apply to stable coins the only"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "difference is that you would have the p"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "a private company issue it and control"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "it. But we've seen time and again how a"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "lot of these private entities are"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "willing to do that when contacted. Just"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "look at how Bank of America behaved with"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "January 6. Uh people accused of"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "wrongdoing on that day, for example. Um"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "you know, they have no qualms in doing"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "that uh and engaging in in those type of"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "activities. and the biggest uh dollar"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "stable coin issuer uh Tether which just"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "hired Bo Hines uh from the White House."}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "Um they have uh openly said that they"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "are uh a close partner of the US"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "government for dollar hegemony uh"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "globally and have uploaded uh the FBI,"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "the Secret Service and other aspects um"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "of the US government onto its platform"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "directly and have seized uh tethers you"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "know from people uh just because you"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "know the government told them to and"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "this was during the Biden"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "administration. So they obviously are"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "willing to do that under any"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "administration and it's uh essentially"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "functioning as a de facto public private"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "partnership even though we're being told"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "um it's a it's much better than a CBDC"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "but in terms of its impacts on civil"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "liberties you know that's not"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "necessarily true. So again vigilance is"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "is important here. When Bill Barr was"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "attorney general under Trump, he"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "implemented a program called DEEP, which"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "essentially created this framework for"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "the DOJ to begin pre-rime prosecutions."}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "And this whole idea that you can uh"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "prosecute people or arrest them for"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "social media posts. And that's happened"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "a few times in the US since then, but"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "also more recently in the UK. You have"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "that same policy being rolled out there"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "as well where people are being handed"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "down 20-month prison sentences for"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "social media posts and things like that."}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "And that's very problematic. And around"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "that same time that Bill Barr did that,"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "after the El Paso Walmart shooting,"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "Trump called on social media platforms"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "uh to profile their users and try and"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "pick out m potential shooters before"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "they could act. So sort of calling on"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "tech giants to develop some sort of"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "pre-rime functionality. And even though"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "that didn't end up happening, that's"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "very problematic. Maybe you could argue"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "that Trump did it because it was a"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "crisis and that was his response. But"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "that's not good and that's very bad for"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "freedom and it's very Orwellian. And uh"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "it's this is policy that is also, you"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "know, being promoted by aspects of of"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "the Democrats in the United States and"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "also like as I mentioned labor in"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "Britain with Kier Starmer is sending"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "people to prison for social media posts."}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "Um, and there's actually this broader"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "effort that involves US intelligence"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "agencies and and the FBI and the Secret"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "Service, Britain and um, Israeli"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "intelligence as well. It's housed at the"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "World Economic Forum. It's called the"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "Partnership Against Cyber Crime. And"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "they're attempting uh, to label speech"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "as a form of cyber crime. So if you"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "publish alleged misinformation online,"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "you could be considered a cyber criminal"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "under s of the policy papers uh that"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "they have published in the past, which I"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "think is very concerning. And they're"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "arguing that digital ID should be a"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "requisite for internet access also"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "because that way everything you uh read"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "and consume online and everything you"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "post online would be tied to your"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "governmentissued uh digital ID. So"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "that's really creating a framework for"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "unprecedented surveillance of our online"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "lives and online activity. And then when"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "you add the whole push into pre-rime"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "that has been going on for a very long"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "time and both parties have advanced,"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "then it doesn't really matter if you"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "have done something wrong or not. If the"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "algorithm determines that you may commit"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "a crime in the future because of what"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "you've posted or said or how you've"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "reacted online, you know, that leads us"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "into a very very very uh dark and"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "problematic place. And there really"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "isn't a lot of understanding or or"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "consensus about these issues. But a lot"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "of it has comes down to again us being"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "so trusting with thinking that the data"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "that we put out online isn't going to be"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "used against us or isn't going to be"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "misused by some of these entities who"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "access it. And that includes, you know,"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "government contractors like Palunteer,"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "for example, which gets a lot of"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "contracts regardless of who's in office."}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "and they have profiled people on behalf"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "of the CIA, regular Americans, based on"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "their online activity, for decades now."}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "And there's really not a lot of"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "discussion about it. And I think I don't"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "know, people should be uh aware of this"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "stuff and aware of what the government's"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "doing. Look for things that we can do to"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "opt out of these systems as much as"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "possible. And I think the cornerstone of"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "those is the effort to create an"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "all-encompassing digital ID that will"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "determine what you can and can't access"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "in your life. I would argue and uh you"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "know I wrote reports of at the time"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "during co 19 and others did as well that"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "sort of the vaccine passport was a trial"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "run for this digital ID vision that's"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "you know being implemented essentially"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "globally and uh going to be rolled out"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "over the next 2 years or so at the"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "global level and you know the idea of"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "having a lot of the surveillance sucked"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "up on you being linked to the digital ID"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "having it determined having your medical"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "records in there having your telecom in"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "there your social media account uh"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "really all of your aspect of life in the"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "centralized digital ID is very"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "problematic especially if we saw during"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "co you know if you didn't have the right"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "if you didn't get the vaccine for"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "example you weren't allowed into places"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "it restricted your freedom of movement"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "digital ID has the ability to restrict"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "not just your freedom of movement but"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "really your access to everything"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "including information uh based on the"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "blueprints that are out there by the"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "public private partnerships and"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "associations that are developing it uh"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "like ID2020 for example"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "Um and then there's the the whole idea"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "of linking this intimately with a"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "digital wallet that again would have"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "some sort of programmable, surveillable"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "and seizable currency where you know"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "which again as I said earlier has major"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "um implications for financial freedom"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "and financial privacy. I think we need"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "to focus a lot on those in particular"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "because a lot of consciousness was"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "generated about those policy agendas"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "during the co era and the risks risks of"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "them and you know unfortunately uh we're"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "in a situation now globally where you"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "have people both on the left and the"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "right marketing these policy agendas"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "under very different metrics that they"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "think their base would be most receptive"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "to. So, in the case of Donald Trump, for"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "example, he's calling for a biometric"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "entry exit system as a way to tackle"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "illegal immigration. A campaign lawyer"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "of his went on a podcast a few months"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "ago saying that biometric facial"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "recognition uh would be a way to stomp"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "out the voter ID or the voter fraud"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "issue and and institute voter ID. And"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "you can support voter ID, but why can't"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "we just have physical driver's license"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "or the type of IDs people have always"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "had? Why does it have to be a biometric"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "facial recognition thing? And"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "unfortunately, Trump's vice vice"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "presidential candidate, JD Vance, is"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "very intimately connected to a a man"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "named Peter Teal, who funds a lot of"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "companies that are, for example,"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "building the virtual border wall or uh"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "building facial recognition systems that"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "are being sent to law enforcement. Uh"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "some of which brag about, you know,"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "having it been used to send people that"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "were at the capital on January 6, 2021"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "to prison, among other things. And it's"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "very likely that these type of policies"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "would also be implemented. Camala wins"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "for example too but going to be sold"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "under different metrics as well to her"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "base but a lot of the same backers"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "behind her like Reed Hoffman for example"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "envision the same type of policy um"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "coming to fruition and I think we should"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "focus on on stopping those policy"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "agendas in particular and it's important"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "to keep in mind too as far as"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "programmable surveillable seizable money"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "goes as I said earlier it's not just"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "CBDC's uh this can also be that same"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "regime can be implemented with stable"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "coins and I If we focus on these policy"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "agendas which are central to this larger"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "agenda and say we don't want these"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "things and we plan at with our friends"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "and family who are like-minded how we're"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "going to opt out of those systems. I"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "think that could be really powerful and"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "affect real change. I think at this"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "point a lot of it has to do with Silicon"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "Valley and our dependence on products of"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "certain Silicon Valley behemoths. So a"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "lot of the biggest companies in Silicon"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "Valley also double as military and"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "intelligence contractors and give our"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "data quite freely to them when they"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "should not. And again, if we become so"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "dependent on a suite of products, all of"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "which, you know, all if all of those"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "companies have these same ties, for"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "example, maybe we can use some Google"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "and some Microsoft products, whatever,"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "but if they're all intelligence military"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "contractors at the end of the day, and"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "we can't live our lives without them,"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "then we can be manipulated to do things"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "to maintain access to those products in"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "ways that might be very damaging to"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "human freedom, among other things. So, I"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "think it's important to look for um"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "open- source or or different"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "alternatives and look for companies or"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "operating systems or whatever that don't"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "have those types of relationships with"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "the military and intelligence"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "communities. I think people should also"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "consider spending less time online and"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "maybe a little more time offline."}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "remembering what it's like to hang out"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "with real people and build community in"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "the real world because I think uh"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "specifically in the co era when a lot of"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "us were forced to be online a lot more"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "than before because of lockdowns and"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "other things it may have been a little"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "easier to have forgotten what that's"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "like at the end of the day but I think"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "if you can be as self-sufficient as"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "possible not and of course you know from"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "the tech perspective that's hard because"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "not everyone can develop their own"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "software but there are things you can"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "use that if you're upset about Google"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "censorship or something like that on"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "YouTube, but you're continuing to use"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "Google products all the time. You're not"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "really providing an incentive for the"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "company to change and you're freely"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "giving it giving your data up to it and"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "it's a contractor with these aspects of"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "the US military and and things like that"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "or at least historically has been. I"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "believe they still do have contracts,"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "but really Silicon Valley and in the"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "military and intelligence really have"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "fused operations in a lot of significant"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "ways. And you can argue also that a lot"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "of intelligence agencies had early"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "involvement in some of the biggest"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "Silicon Valley companies as well."}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "There's an alleged CIA involvement with"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "the origins of Google, uh, Oracle, and"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "some other significant companies as"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "well. And then, of course, you have the"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "involvement of of people like Jeffrey"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "Abstein with Microsoft in the 1990s and"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "some other things that haven't really"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "been, you know, reported on"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "significantly, but probably should be."}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "So, I think, you know, that's one way we"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "could opt out and not be so dependent on"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "particular companies that have those"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "ties. But I think also like uh there's a"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "lot of other ways to be resilient."}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "Learning a skill that other people don't"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "have that might be useful in a time of"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "crisis. Building a store of knowledge"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "because if internet censorship gets"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "worse, you have offline knowledge that"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "will be useful to you in a time of"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "crisis stored on hard drives when you"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "can't access the internet. That seems"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "like it might be helpful. uh learning to"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "grow your food or in investing in"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "someone in your community that can grow"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "food uh and will grow food for you. You"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "know, all sort there there's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "different things that people can do uh"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "to try and make themselves more"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "self-sufficient because the more"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "dependent we are either on these"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "companies or on the government. We do"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "have less agency in those cases. And I"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "think we really need to remember that we"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "do have agency, we've been outsourcing"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "it. We've been giving it away to other"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "people who don't have our best interest"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "at heart. And we as a society need to"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "learn to take that back as much as"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "possible. Well, it's interesting because"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "really a lot of South American"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "governments um have been unstable at"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "times, but a lot of that has um I you"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "could arguably trace back to really"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "perhaps US government involvement"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "historically in the continent. Latin"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "America and Central America were"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "subjected to a ton of coups uh sponsored"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "by US intelligence and there's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "US intelligence and US government"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "manipulation of national governments"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "down here that have tended to cause"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "problems that sometimes seize and then"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "explode a decade later or something. So"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "you know it's very complicated to really"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "try and explain some more uh governments"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "are more stable than others perhaps. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "you know, I live in Chile, which which"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "is traditionally viewed as one of the"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "more stable governments in South"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "America, but was also subjected to a"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "very totalitarian dictatorship that was"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "backed by US intelligence, you know, for"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "a very long time. And, you know, a lot"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "of complications have also come downwind"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "of that. And there's also political"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "division here, uh, just like there is in"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "the United States. Um, and I think, you"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "know, regardless of who is president of"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "Chile, uh, they tend to, it's really"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "about, at least at this point, balancing"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "either is the US going to dominate their"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "administration or is China."}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "If you enjoyed today's video on"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "Anonymous Official, leave a like and"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "subscribe if you haven't done so"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "already."}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "Thanks for watching and sticking with"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "us."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:01", "text": "If you've been paying attention to this"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "um object that's hurtling towards Earth,"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "it's called A3. They're calling it A31."}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "Um we were just going over it the other"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "day, there was an article that was"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "stating that whatever they use to detect"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "like what what is around this like what"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "they can detect the composition whether"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "it's like mostly water"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "vapor mostly iron. This thing is giving"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "off the indications that is an alloy"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "that is only exists on earth through"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "industrial allo alloy making processes"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "that it's not a natural metal."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "Okay?"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "And this that's what what they're"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "getting is the signal that this thing"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "that is hurling through space this"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "massive object that's moving by the way"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "from the same direction in space where"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "the wow signal came."}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "I don't know what that is. The WOW"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "signal is a they believe uh"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "intelligently generated signal that they"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "picked up. I think it was in the 70s."}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "Was it in the 70s?"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "I should know this. I'm going to lose my"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "nerd code."}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "No, no, it's okay. It's it's a weird"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "one. It's a little obscure. So, they I"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "don't know what the exact technique they"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "were using to monitor radio waves in"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "space, but they got a signal. So, here"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "it is. The WOW signal is a powerful 72"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "second narrowband radio signal detected"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "on August 15th, 1977 by the Big Ear"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "radio telescope at Ohio State"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "University, which initially suggested an"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "extraterrestri extraterrestrial origin"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "uh named for the WOW written in printout"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "by the astronomer Jerry uh Aean Aean."}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "Aean uh the signal had characteristics"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "expected from a technological source,"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "but follow-up efforts have failed to"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "detect it again. So, this mystery object"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "has been added to the International"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "Asteroid Warning Network. That's that's"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "the first interstellar object ever to"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "make that list. So, I got to ask you,"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "what the heck is ThreeI Atlas and why"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "why the clouds of mystery around it?"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "NASA's like tight lipped. Watch for it."}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "Starting this week, we're going to begin"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "to monitor and see whether or not it"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "picks up extra energy as it whips around"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "the sun."}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "So, it's Wednesday, right? October 29th,"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "I think it goes the closest point to the"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "sun. Is that right?"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "That's right. That's the perihelion."}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "And at that point, if it picks up extra"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "energy, that's outside the ordinary"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "bounds of the conservation of energy."}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "So, watch for it as it whips around the"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "sun. If it picks up extra energy, bingo."}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "It means there's intelligent life uh"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "that is guiding the motion of this"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "object."}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "Uh this is interesting. Right now"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "something is happening in our solar"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "system that's sending scientists"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "scrambling for explanations."}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "The interstellar object NASA's been"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "tracking, threeey atlas, is roughly the"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "size of Manhattan and has been"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "displaying several unusual movements and"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "features which kind of defy typical"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "behavior of comets. It's even catching"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "the attention of some military analysts."}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "So what does this mean for all of us"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "here on Earth?"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "So if you think like how fast this thing"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "is going, if it came from, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "other side of the galaxy, it's probably"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "exactly how long it would take to get"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "here. So, it's coming directly for"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "Earth."}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "No, it's it's coming near Earth,"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "right? So, we're not worried it's going"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "to hit us."}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "No, I don't believe we're worried that"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "Well, I'm going to find out tomorrow."}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "Avi Lobe, an astronomer from Harvard is"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "coming on."}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "Amazing."}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "And he's going to uh enlighten us as to"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "what what this thing is all about. But"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "it's a lot it's weird. Like, as it gets"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "closer, it's weirder and weirder. Like,"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "they've never seen anything like this"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "before. Is it possible then that another"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "planet out in"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "the like universes like"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "isn't made up of has alloy properties"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "and it could have chipped off and it's"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "now hurtling through space."}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "Yeah, you would have to ask like a"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "metallurgist that question. That's a"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "good question. They just know the only"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "way it exists on Earth is through this"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "industrial process if it is that stuff."}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "And what can this mysterious object tell"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "us about what's outside our own solar"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "system? Do you believe that this is"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "something more than just a comet?"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "Yeah, in fact, a few months ago, I"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "defined a scale where zero is a natural"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "object, 10 is a technological object"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "that could be a threat to humanity. You"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "know, it's a blind date where on the"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "other side we may have a serial killer."}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "We just don't know. And I gave it a four"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "a 40% chance based on eight anomalies"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "that it shows um of being technological."}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "And of course, if we get more data and"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "it looks like a comet, a a natural"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "object, then I would revise my ranking,"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "but it will never go below two out of 10"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "because we know the trajectory is"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "aligned with the planets. And you know,"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "the chance for that happening at random"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "is really small. So, we're going to be"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "watching to see if this thing makes any"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "sudden moves over the next number of"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "weeks. Dr. Obby Lobo, we're going to"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "keep an eye on it. All right, for the"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "future of everything. Now to what might"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "be the most consequential news of the"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "week, of the month, or even the decade,"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "or the century. Bear with me. I know I"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "get a little bit stoked about this"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "stuff, but there are two scientific"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "papers that just dropped that absolutely"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "blew my mind. You know, there's been so"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "much talk about whether aliens exist."}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "You got the UAP hearings, all those"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "black and white military videos, drones"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "in the sky, then obviously AI making"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "things even more confusing. Well, for"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "me, there are two papers that are out"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "right now that just cut through all of"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "the noise by going back in time and"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "taking a look at sky survey plates from"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "the 40s, the 1940s, and 1950s."}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "Basically, these are pictures of our"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "night sky and all the stars at night"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "after night before humans ever sent"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "anything into space. This is"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "pre-sputnik, pre-apollo, like nothing"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "metallic, nothing reflective should have"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "been orbiting planet Earth, right? Well,"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "guess what? There were lights in the sky"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "that they still can't explain. They call"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "these transients. Sometimes they were"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "there, sometimes they weren't. Take a"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "look at this right here. So, this is the"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "night sky. Uh, September 1952. September"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "uh 1952 on the 14th a little bit later."}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "Uh July 1952. All of these three, they"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "look the same except for right here."}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "What the heck is that? What is this"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "little blob of lights? Uh it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "there and then it was. This is where"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "things get weirder. These papers found"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "that they were most likely to be seen of"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "thousands of these most likely to be"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "seen when nukes were being tested here"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "on Earth and when lots of people"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "reported seeing UFOs. Again, this is"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "before we ever launched a single"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "satellite. Um, this picture right here,"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "the dates around this, the one that we"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "were just talking about, uh, the dates"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "were around a time when UFOs were seen"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "for several hours over Washington DC,"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "the White House, the Capitol building."}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "Air traffic controllers, they reported"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "seeing them on their radar all around"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "those dates, July 1952."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "And joining us now is one of the authors"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "of both of those papers, Beatrice Vyel."}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "She's an astronomer uh at the Nordic"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "Institute of theoretical Physic uh"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "physics in Stockholm. Uh Beatrice, thank"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "you so much for being with us."}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "Congratulations on both these papers."}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "Let's start with"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "as simple of a of a question as possible"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "here. These lights in the sky from"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "before Sputnik, were these were these"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "artificial objects orbiting Earth before"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "we were ever in space? From what we see,"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "this kind of transients like this kind"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "of transients of flashes that you see,"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "they have a very interesting feature."}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "You usually get this kind of flashes"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "when you have something that is very"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "flat and uh very reflective. And in a"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "let's say in a geocynchronous orbit at"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "let's say 42,000"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "Wait, wait, hold on. Very flat, very"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "reflective in geocynchronous orbit. That"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "like that doesn't sound"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "natural, right?"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "Yes. And and the funny thing is that we"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "can we can show that there are solar"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "reflections because there is a deficit"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "of them in the earth's shadow at these"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "altitudes."}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "And that means that uh at least a"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "fraction of the transients of these"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "flashes that we're looking at like 30"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "35%"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "uh appear to be due to the solar"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "reflections of such objects."}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "And if we think about that, these are"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "before these transients come from images"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "taken before the first human satellite,"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "they do look pretty artificial. Although"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "I would say that nature can always"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "surprise us with things that we just"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "can't imagine right now."}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "Well, there's a split a split in the"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "astronomical community. The majority"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "faction says, \"What's all the fuss"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "about? I mean, it's just a rock from out"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "of space, and it's going to come through"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "our solar system for the first time and"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "then come whizzing back out again. It's"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "the third third known object from"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "outside our solar system. So, what's the"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "fuss? Another faction, however, says,"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "\"Now, wait a minute. Perhaps this is a"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "visitor, an intelligent visitor from"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "another solar system, and perhaps this"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "week we could have a test of it.\" That's"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "right. This week, it turns out that the"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "asteroid or comet will be whizzing"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "around our sun. And if it picks up extra"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "energy on its flyby, that would clench"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "it. That means there's extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "intelligence involved. So, watch for it."}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "On October 30th, starting then, we're"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "going to track it to see whether it gets"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "an extra boost of energy. If so, it"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "means we are being visited. NASA is"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "launching its Artemis 2 program in 2026,"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "I think, sending crude miss crude"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "missions around the moon and then"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "landing on the lunar surface. Let me ask"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "you, professor, when do you think that"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "we might see some permanent bases on the"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "moon? Should we? Do we know everything"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "about the moon already or or not?"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "Certainly, the dark side is different."}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "Um, and what about Mars? You think we'll"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "ever set foot on Mars?"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "Well, that's a wish list of we of what"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "we have for NASA. However, it's going to"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "take time. Uh for for example, we've"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "been talking about going to the moon for"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "decades and finally it's going to come"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "to pass. Within the next few years,"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "we're going to launch not just an"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "unmanned a man probe around the moon."}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "We're going to land on the moon's"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "surface itself. And so, this is all on"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "the agenda for NASA in the coming years."}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "And then after that, the next target is"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "going to be Mars. But we'll wait and"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "see. We've had so many setbacks, so many"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "disappointments, but now we think we"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "have the momentum to go onto a flyby"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "around the moon, land on the moon, and"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "then onto Mars. So, if I were one of"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "your students, I would go, \"Ooh, ooh,"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "ooh.\" Like, you know, Arnold Horschack"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "and ask you, do you think that there is"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "life in the galaxy somewhere? That this"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "could be what what do you think it is?"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "What do you think this thing is? Well,"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "I'll put my uh my my money on the bet"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "that there is intelligent life"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "throughout the galaxy. Not only that,"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "but I think there's intelligent life in"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "our neighborhood, the neighborhood of"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "the Milky Way galaxy. And so, I think"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "that uh don't don't necessarily bet bet"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "the house on it, but I would say that"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "yes, there's intelligent life out there."}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "The big question is can they visit us?"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "That's the big question because just to"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "go to uh the nearest star would take"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "70,000 years with a conventional rocket."}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "That's how long it would take just to go"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "to Alpha Centauri. So, we need something"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "like warp drive. Now, that of course is"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "on the wish list of every science"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "fiction writer, but that's what's"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "required if we're going to meet"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "intelligent life throughout the galaxy."}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "Warp drive. Speaking of Alpha Centauri,"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "maybe it's the Robinson family finally"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "getting back on the Jupiter 2. I don't"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "know. We'll find out."}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "You know, there there are thousands,"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "tens of thousands of these, if I"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "understand it correctly, maybe even"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "more. Um, what did you think when you"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "started to see a correlation between"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "nuclear testing that was going on around"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "that same time, also these UFO sightings"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "that were happening around the United"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "States, that that correlation, did that"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "stick out to you right away? Were you"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "kind of sketched out by it? Well, like"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "the first time when we saw that, it was"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "by coincidence. My friend David Alman,"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "he tells me about uh Washington flap"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "1952."}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "And then um by chance I discovered that"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "our best candidate when we were looking"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "for a land transient"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "also came from the same Washington 1952"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "flap just from the other weekend because"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "it was distributed over two weekends. I"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "was like, hm, this is weird. And then"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "that that was what formed the hypothesis"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "that we wanted to test. Is there a"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "correlation in time between these"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "transients and uh UFO events? And we see"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "uh it's a weak correlation, but it's in"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "statistically significant. And we find"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "that"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "I mean you strike me as a very"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "open-minded scientist, which is what"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "science is supposed to be all about. But"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "what do you think this might be?"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "Well, uh I mean here we can only"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "speculate wildly. If we look at the"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "numbers like just from the northern"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "hemisphere we have 35,000 transients. I"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "I don't know how many of these come from"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "one I mean one object could give several"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "transients but it's also possible that"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "we're missing a lot of transients. So I"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "would estimate it to be somewhere"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "between tens of thousands to maybe 100"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "thousands of objects"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "uh or 100 thousands of objects or so uh"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "around the earth and artificial is a"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "possibility. Who who knows like if it's"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "some ancient space trash from some past"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "civilization or if we are having some"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "probes that came from another planet. I"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "don't know. I hope that someone some"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "astronomers that are like um well"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "trained with working with this kind of"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "data uh I'm talking about professional"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "astronomers that will they will want to"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "try to do the same analysis both with"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "polyomar but also with other surveys and"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "other plates I mean other plate surveys"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "in particular because that could really"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "be uh helpful because we need to see if"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "this result can be replicated with other"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "surveys and and if it is then it's going"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "to be extremely fun or or not"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "a"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "as a human as a human on planet Earth uh"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "who you know made this discovery what's"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "a significance to you"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "I just want to know uh what these"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "objects are and I want to know um"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "why they are here"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "so"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "I I I don't know really what I can say."}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "It's just I'm curious and that's it."}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "If you enjoyed today's video on"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "Anonymous Official, leave a like and"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "subscribe if you haven't done so"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "already."}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "Thanks for watching and sticking with"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "us."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Things are getting very wild."}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "Yeah, there is a lot of misinformation."}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "You know, some people said, \"I invented"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "three eyelas, this object, uh, in order"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "to distract attention from the Epstein"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "files.\""}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "Is that what people are saying?"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "Yeah. And I said, \"Look, this object is"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "the size of Manhattan Island. It's at 4"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "and a half times the Earth sun"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "separation. Um, if I was able to put it"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "out there, you know, I would be more"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "powerful than the Pope.\" And because"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "we're talking about a giant object that"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "you can see from any place on earth, you"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "know, you can buy online"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "a telescope that will allow you half a"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "meter in size that will allow you to see"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "it. It's out there. It cannot be faked."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "Well, those people are fools. You can't"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "listen to those people."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "I don't listen to those I I don't listen"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "to many people, you know. Uh, initially"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "a lot of people were dismissing your"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "concerns and they were saying that this"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "object is nothing but a comet and it's"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "very normal. Uh, but then as it got"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "closer and as we got more data, it seems"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "like you're correct."}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "Well,"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "this is a very unusual object."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "There is something really important to"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "recognize here that usually when you"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "deal with scientific matters, they have"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "very little impact on the future of"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "humanity. Very little. You know if the"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "nutrino has a little bit of a mass"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "doesn't really matter. You know when we"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "discovered the Higs boson the biggest"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "impact was to confirm some idea we had"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "back in the 60s and you know obviously"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "that affected you know those people who"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "got the Nobel Prize but most of us"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "continued as if nothing happened."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "However here if we ever encounter alien"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "technology everything will change. It"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "will affect the financial markets. It"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "will affect politics in a major way. So"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "my point is simple. This is different"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "than other scientific matters. And the"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "intelligence agencies know very well"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "that events with very small probability"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "have to be considered seriously because"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "they have they could have major"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "implications. Just think about October"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "7th. The Israeli intelligence agencies"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "had a theory that the Hamas will do"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "nothing."}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "and they got data that indicated"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "something is going on out there, but"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "they dismissed it because of their"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "theory. Now, because as a result of"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "their mistake, which was clearly a"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "blunder, a lot of people died on both"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "sides for that. This could have been"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "avoided if they were to consider a black"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "swan event. An event that you put a"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "small probability for it happening. But"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "you look at anomalies in the data and"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "say look the implications are so huge."}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "We have to consider it. And you know"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "this idea was already considered by the"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "philosopher mathematician bless Pascal."}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "He talked about God and he said look of"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "course you might think that God doesn't"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "exist. The probability for that is small"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "but the implications if God exists the"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "implications are so huge that we have to"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "discuss it. That was the argument"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "Pascal's wager and the intelligence"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "agencies know that believe me the"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "Israeli intelligence agencies will not"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "make that mistake again. Now here comes"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "an object from outside the solar system"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "and it shows anomalies."}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "The scientists would say we should be as"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "careful as possible at talking about"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "anything other than a rock. Now they say"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "that when they know that we launched,"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "humanity launched a lot of space junk."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "You know, a lot of technological objects"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "to space and we also know that there are"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "100 billion stars like the sun in the"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "Milky Way galaxy alone. Most of them"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "formed billions of years before the sun"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "and there are billions of earth sun"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "analoges. Now we all believe that we"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "came out of a soup of chemicals. You"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "know that's the scientific narrative of"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "how human intelligence came on this"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "earth. And so it's quite likely that you"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "know we are not the first one. Sorry to"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "break the news. Uh Elon Musk was"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "probably not the most accomplished space"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "entrepreneur since the big bang 13.8"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "billion years ago."}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "And therefore we should consider the"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "possibility that things like us existed"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "long before us. And you can ask the"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "question how long does it take our own"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "technology the Voyager spacecraft that"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "we launched out of the solar system. How"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "long does it take it to move to the"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "opposite side of the Milky Way galaxy?"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "You know thousands of light years away"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "takes less than a billion years. And"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "that means that all these civilizations"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "that had their history initiated"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "billions of years before ours could have"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "done it. And all we need to do as"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "responsible scientists is to check if"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "among all the rocks that come from"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "outside of our backyard are really"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "rocks. Or maybe one of these objects"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "might be a tennis ball that was thrown"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "by a neighbor. And the reason I say that"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "is, you know, we live at our home at our"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "at the on earth next to the sun. We look"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "around us in the cosmic street and we"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "see a lot of houses just like ours."}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "There are billions of them probably. Now"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "my colleagues, those scientists who"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "think traditionally, they say, well, you"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "know, microbes came to Earth very early,"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "therefore they must be everywhere. So,"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "let's define our highest priority,"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "searching for microbes"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "on other houses in our cosmic street."}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "And I say, good. You can do that from"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "the vantage point of your home. You can"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "look through the window and search for"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "microbes in your neighbor's yards, but"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "you would need to put $10 billion to"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "develop a big enough instrument that"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "would be able to detect the chemical"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "fingerprints of microbes, you know, on"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "exoplanets."}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "uh and think about the possibility that"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "there was actually there is a resident"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "in one of those houses. You know, that"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "resident might show up in your front"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "door at some point or you might see"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "an object that arrives to your backyard"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "or your mailbox from that uh resan"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "event."}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "A black swan event. Or you might see"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "some construction project in from a"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "distance that might be easier to detect"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "than microbes. So we should hedge our"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "bets. You know, we should uh invest"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "billions of dollars on both fronts. At"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "the moment, the scientific community is"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "willing to allocate more than $10"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "billion to searching for microbes,"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "but no recommendation is made to"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "allocate any federal funding to the"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "search for intelligence. And I say that"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "that is an oversight."}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "Let's let's go back to I don't one more"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "time. Aua, okay, I don't want to screw"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "it up. Um, how large was that?"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "That was was the size of a football"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "field"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "of all their 100 meters."}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "Small in comparison to three eye."}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "Oh yeah, that's my point that three"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "Atlas is a million times more massive."}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "At least a million times more massive"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "than MUA. And I immediately as it was"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "discovered, you know, it was July 1st"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "and my wife asked me to go on vacation"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "to Aruba two days later and as I was"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "going on the plane and as I arrived"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "there, I realized, wait, that doesn't"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "make sense cuz we should have seen"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "millions of omuamas before we saw this"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "one. You know, it's so big. And I also"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "realized there is not enough rocky"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "material per unit volume in interstellar"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "space to deliver such a giant rock into"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "the inner solar system within a period"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "of a decade. You would expect it at the"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "very optimistic scenario where you"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "package all the material into objects"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "that are 5 km in diameter. You would"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "imagine once per 10,000 years. So I"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "wrote immediately a scientific paper. My"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "wife was not happy that you know on our"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "vacation I was sitting on my computer"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "but I just couldn't resist it. And by"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "the way this paper I submitted for"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "publication that was July 3rd or"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "something. Um and um then the editor"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "said, \"Oh, the paper is fine, but you"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "have a concluding sentence at the end"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "where you say, well, unless the object"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "is smaller than estimated,"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "maybe it was targeting the inner"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "source.\" That was my solution to say you"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "know one way out of this dilemma of why"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "is it so big is if it was targeting the"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "inner solar system by design and indeed"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "the trajectory is aligned with the plane"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "of the planets around the sun to within"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "5\u00b0 the chance for that at random is 1 in"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "500 okay and it's moving in a retrograde"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "trajectory opposite to the motion of the"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "planets which is ideal for it to release"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "mini probes that will get into the"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "planets it gets close to Mars it gets"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "close to Jupiter. It goes on the"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "opposite side of the sun uh relative to"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "Earth when it's closest to the sun. And"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "that's the time when a spacecraft could"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "do a maneuver to take advantage of the"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "sun's gravitational assist. You know,"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "all of these are interesting indications"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "that may imply that some intelligence"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "designed the trajectory. So I had one"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "sentence at the end of the paper saying"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "maybe the trajectory was designed and"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "the editor said no no no the paper will"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "not get published unless you remove that"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "sentence."}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "So now when you when you listen to comet"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "experts that say well this claim or that"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "claim was never published in a"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "peer-review journal. Guess what? They"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "are the editors or the reviewers who are"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "blocking"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "the discussion on possibilities and I"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "think it's inappropriate especially in"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "the case of alien technology because"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "it's could be a black swan event. It"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "could be something that affects the"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "future of humanity and we if we behave"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "you know very conservatively we might"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "not last very long."}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "Well it's also arrogant. It's it's"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "arrogant."}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "Yeah. This object is"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "how it shows that there's no iron."}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "Oh no. So yeah. So then the composition"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "of the plume of gas."}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "So this is this is before you knew about"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "the composition that you wrote this"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "paper."}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "Exactly."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "So as time is going on, you are being"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "shown to be correct."}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "Well, we found more more anomalies."}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "More anomalies. So this is not a normal"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "thing."}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "Not a normal thing. So, for one thing,"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "uh there was a glow that looks like an"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "extended feature, and everyone said,"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "\"Oh, that's a tail. That's the signature"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "of a comet.\" And I said, \"Wait a minute."}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "It it's pointing towards the sun. It's"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "not pointing away from the sun.\""}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "Usually, cometary tails are made of dust"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "and gas, which is pushed back away from"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "the sun by the radiation and the solar"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "wind, you know. Um and so this one was"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "pointed towards the sun not away from"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "the sun. And the question is why? And um"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "actually I calculated that you know it"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "appeared very clearly in the sharpest"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "image we had from the Hubble Space"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "Telescope which showed an elongation by"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "a factor of two towards the sun. But we"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "were looking at it like a cigar. We were"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "looking almost along the cigar long axis"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "uh within 10\u00b0 of the object sun axis. So"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "we were looking almost edge on and I"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "calculate if you were to correct for"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "that this would be a feature that is 10"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "times longer than it is wide you know"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "and and that means it's like a jet"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "so the object was had a jet in front of"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "it towards the sun the question is why"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "and you know the comet experts ignored"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "it and just said well you know comets"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "are strange you know they who knows um"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "but my point is this is a blind date of"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "interstellar proportions. And my advice"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "on blind dates is not to"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "speak or say what you think this is, but"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "to observe the other side. You know, the"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "best way to respond to a blind date is"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "to observe the other side. Don't speak."}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "Just observe the other side because it"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "may be different than what you think."}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "And maybe, you know, on one of the dates"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "you will have a serial killer"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "on the other side."}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "Oh boy. Now um explain if you could how"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "we know the composition of this thing."}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "So we can figure out composition of a"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "plume of gas uh by um taking a spectrum"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "of it which means you basically have"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "some kind of a prism that breaks you"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "know that a light with different"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "wavelengths is bent at different angles"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "and so you spread the light into the"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "different colors and if you do that you"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "you can find the uh fingerprints the"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "spectral fingerprints of specific atoms"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "or molecules because each atom or"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "molecule has transitions. I I actually"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "teach I taught it just uh two days ago"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "in a class that I teach uh that is"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "mandatory obligatory at the Harvard"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "astronomy department where I was chair"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "for a decade you know like between 2011"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "2020. So this is the mandatory class and"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "I I just taught how you know spectral"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "lines emitted by atoms and molecules"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "just two days ago. So this is a very"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "well-known thing and we know the the"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "wavelengths of those and and we use them"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "to identify the composition uh you know"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "we know which atoms produced these"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "spectral lines the fingerprints it's"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "just like fingerprints okay and and so"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "what was found you know and that's by"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "multiple teams there are three papers on"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "that we found"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "nickel a lot of nickel but no very"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "little iron at first no iron whatsoever"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "Usually in all the comets in the past"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "from the solar system and also from"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "interstellar space there is one comet"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "Borisov that was found. It's the second"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "interstellar object which looked just"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "like a familiar comet. I had nothing to"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "say about that one. It looked like a"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "comet behaved like a comet. It was a"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "comet but it had similar abundances of"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "nickel and iron. The only place where we"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "found before much more nickel than iron"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "is in alloys that we produce"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "industrially. For example, uh for"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "aerospace applications, uh nickel alloys"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "have a lot of nickel, no iron. So maybe"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "the skin of this object is is"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "industrially produced. That's that was"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "my suggestion. But what the authors of"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "these papers said is maybe nature is"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "capable of going through the same"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "chemical pathway of producing nickel"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "without iron as we do in our industries."}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "So they made the conjecture that this"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "carbonil pathway which is well known in"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "the industry world uh carbonil is the"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "pathway the name of the pathway they"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "said well maybe this carbon pathway"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "happens in nature uh we have never seen"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "it before but that is their explanation."}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "If you enjoyed today's video on"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "anonymous official leave a like and"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "subscribe if you haven't done so"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "already."}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "Thanks for watching and sticking with"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "us."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Cynthia Sue Larson is back with us to"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "charm us with stories of parallel"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "realities, the Mandela effect, which is"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "among the most fascinating topics in the"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "world for me personally. Just as to the"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "lighting is Cynthia's own life story."}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "After we finish being dazzled, we're"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "going to look at the mechanics of what"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "is actually occurring in the Mandela"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "effect. Thank you so much for coming"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "back, Cynthia. This I just can't get"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "enough of this because I'm trying to get"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "my mind around it really. And I to me I"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "have to see how it mechanically works."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "Yes."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "You know it has to make sense. It"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "doesn't matter if it's quantum. You can"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "still see it in your mind's eye if you"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "can understand it. So let's go back to"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "your childhood a bit. Uh your parents"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "you traveled quite a bit. Um family"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "traveled. They traveled to exotic"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "places. There was a headboard. Is it was"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "it a headboard or a piece of furniture"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "of some kind?"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "Coffee tables."}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "Coffee table that they were writing"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "back. Yes. Okay. And so you remembered"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "that they made a deal with the person"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "that was that had made it for them,"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "right? Or had made it that"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "was this your first real"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "kind of awareness of even if you didn't"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "know what it was, but experience of the"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "Mandela effect. Mandela effect."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "I think that possibly was the first one"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "where I could see that uh consciousness"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "was changing in groups of people that"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "that u the physical history of events"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "could be quite different. So what"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "happened is uh we were traveling to"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "Kashmir and there was a place that we"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "stayed very beautiful place called Doll"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "Lake and there were houseboats that we"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "we rented one. We were staying and"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "visiting the various craftsmen that are"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "there with um beautiful wood carvings,"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "carpets, that kind of thing where they"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "handstitch everything. But for the"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "furniture that my parents wanted to"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "bring back to the house that we were"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "building, um they it would have to be"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "shipped in pieces and so it would take a"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "while. It was going to take maybe weeks,"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "months for it to get to back to the"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "United States. I heard my parents"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "telling the wood carvers, um this is"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "such beautiful furniture. We're building"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "a new house designed around it. And the"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "wood carvers were amazed, really"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "designed around our furniture. They"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "said, yes, because we're designing it"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "now, so it's going to be perfect. And um"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "I remember they said my parents said we"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "will take pictures and send them to you."}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "And so this took quite a while the whole"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "construction of the house, the shipment"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "of the furniture, putting it in and"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "quite a while later. There it is in"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "place. And I kept waiting for the"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "pictures. I thought this will be fun."}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "Are they going to bring in lights and do"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "we have a photographer? Um and it"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "nothing was happening. And at some point"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "I asked my parents um what about the"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "photographs that and they said what"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "photographs of the furniture the coffee"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "tables the the writing desk in the"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "library that we built designed around"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "these furniture pieces. What about"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "sending them to the wood carvers? You"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "promised that you'd do this and they"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "said we didn't say anything like that."}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "And I believed my parents I believed"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "that they were telling yes they would"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "not lie to me."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "I know they would not lie to me. So then"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "that was a very moment of discognitive"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "dissonance where they are correct. They"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "said we never promised that"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "but you heard it"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "but I heard it and where would that idea"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "have come from? How could I have gotten"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "such an idea? Where would that have"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "people don't normally do that? I'm a"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "child a teenager but still why would I"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "come up with something like that?"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "Well this is this so this begins the"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "disconcerting you know part of your"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "journey. Then shortly after that you met"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "your future self"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "one day."}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "I did. Okay, let's talk now that that's"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "a lot of people would want to dial into"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "Yeah. So, it's kind of a experience"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "where time is not linear and you can see"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "that um something else is going on. I"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "had been dozing off. So, I was in a sort"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "of a hypnogogic state right between"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "waking and sleeping."}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "And I saw"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "a woman who looked just like me but"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "older, maybe about the age I am now,"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "walking sort of floating out of my um"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "mirror closet doors that filled it was"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "across a whole wall. She sort of walked"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "right out of the mirrors sort of"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "floatwalked like she wasn't totally"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "there thinking thoughts to me like hello"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "and I'm startled like what are you doing"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "here and she sort of float walked over"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "to my roll top desk and she's very"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "soothing saying I'm just here to um to"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "just talk with you for a little bit. I"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "can't remember exactly what she said but"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "I'm talking out loud to her. I'm about"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "16 years old and she pulls out the"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "drawer of my roll top desk, takes"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "something, closes it, and then she"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "floats away. And the whole thing was"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "quite strange."}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "Do you know what she took?"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "I did the next day because I went to"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "check that drawer like, \"What was that?\""}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "And those were some letters from my"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "boyfriend who'd written to me and they"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "were gone. But I thought, \"She couldn't"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "have taken them. That's that's crazy.\""}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "And so I accused my sister, you know, of"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "course she's convenient. Makes sense. it"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "had to be her and she was indignant like"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "no I did not do that. So I thought wow"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "maybe that really happened. Um and right"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "after she had the my future self came"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "and got the letters and left my father"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "um knocked on the door and came in like"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "is everything okay? I heard you talking."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "Are you like everything's fine? And I"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "didn't realize I' been I mean the whole"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "thing was so weird."}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "I didn't know what to say. Like"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "something strange just happened but how"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "do you explain that?"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "How do you explain it? And why did she"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "take letters from her boyfriend? Maybe"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "to show that time is not linear that we"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "She could reintroduce them later or"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "something."}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "Yeah, maybe. So, I still haven't seen"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "them, but I still saved the piece of"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "furniture, the roll top desk. So, if the"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "letters do show up, that'll be"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "interesting. So, now we go into uh the"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "the whole notion of Nelson Mandela and"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "his death. That's really where this"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "whole thing got its name. Started out on"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "the Art Bell show. Just explain it so we"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "have an identity of why it's called the"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "Mandela effect."}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "Okay. Well, um, clearly Nelson Mandela"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "has died now. Everybody knows that. But"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "there was a time period, I think"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "currently,"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "I know that's a good question. Well, I"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "think currently he is dead. So, that was"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "he died in I think 2013."}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "And the surprising thing for a lot of"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "people is after um he'd passed away,"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "people remembered. I thought he died way"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "before this, like back in the 80s when"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "he was still in in jail on Robins's"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "Island."}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "And so, and this became a topic that Art"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "Bell was getting flooded with calls,"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "faxes,"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "telegrams, everything. So he mentioned"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "it in April 2001 on his radio show and"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "and then a while it took a while for"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "these things to kind of bubble up"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "through consciousness but I think Fiona"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "Broom then kind of captured the"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "zeitgeist of the times right by about"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "2010 and then said this is a Mandela"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "effect because there are enough of us"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "that remember"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "that there was a difference he had"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "he died while in prison"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "that he did die while in prison"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "and in 2010 he was still alive. So at"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "that point it was like he's alive, he's"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "not dead. And that creates the idea that"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "there are alternate realities. Lots of"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "people can remember them and it can be a"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "shared community experience where we all"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "collectively in large groups remember a"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "completely different series of events."}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "Okay. Now we we talked a little bit in"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "the past about this and showed some of"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "the imagery of some of the kind of"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "common ones from our childhood. for"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "example,"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "um the Baronstein ver baron stain bears"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "GIF versus Jify Peanut Butter and and"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "some of the others and you and uh when I"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "was watching your presentation um uh you"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "were talking about some of those and"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "added a few new ones and and one of them"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "popped in and I thought, \"Oh, no, come"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "on.\" And because I thought I could check"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "this out on the web, right? And you said"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "that the name of Oscar Wild's book, A"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "Portrait of Dorian Gay, had been"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "changed. Yes,"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "that's one for those of us that like"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "literature because we do remember the"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "portrait of Dorian Gray. And now it's"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "only ever always been a picture of"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "Dorian Gay. Yeah. So,"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "right. And I thought, well, surely we"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "could look into this and see where it"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "changed, what happened. And so, I just"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "thought, no, I'm just going to because"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "I'd looked at the others and I"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "remembered virtually all of the others"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "examples you had used."}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "Yes. the way you remembered them and the"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "way the vast majority of people"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "remembered them."}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "And so I thought, \"This is odd. No, it"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "that can't be.\" And so I I just picked"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "this one up and thought I'd run with it."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "So I went online and an interesting"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "thing occurred. I wrote portrait of"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "Dorian Gray."}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "Yes."}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "In the search bar and a page popped up"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "with one listing after another, one link"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "after another under a portrait or the"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "portrait of Dorian Gay."}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "And I thought, \"See, it's right there.\""}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "And I thought, I wonder what she was"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "talking about. It's right there. So, and"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "I clicked on one of them, went to a"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "page, and then it popped up a picture of"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "Dorian Gray. I thought, okay, now this"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "is what Cynthia was talking about, but"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "let me go back to that previous page."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "Hit the back button. All those had"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "shifted over, right,"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "to a picture. Anything I could I"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "couldn't force with search term. could"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "not force it back up to ever get a page"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "with all those portrait of Dorian Gay"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "things."}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "Right. This is one of the most"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "convincing experiences. It's called um"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "in the ver vernacular a flip-flop. So"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "it's like you see one thing and then it"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "changes to another and you know you can"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "trust yourself that you saw that."}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "Oh yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "You know for sure even though there's no"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "proof, you can't convince somebody."}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "Oh I saw it there. That's why I clicked"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "on it. Yeah. Exactly. And I thought see"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "there are a whole bunch of them. Well,"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "ultimately I just kept poking around and"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "finally I said to Zeus, \"Check it out.\""}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "He's a good researcher. He said, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "there's there's some mention of it in a"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "French edition of something from back"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "when and the only thing I did find by"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "way of reference was on Amazon.\""}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "Right. I think there's one book that"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "someone has come out with because so"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "many of us remember the portrait"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "and it's called that. And I didn't see"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "the shadowed small writing across the"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "top of the book. It just had the, you"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "know, the the portrait literally of"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "Dorian Gay in the words Dorian Gay, but"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "it's and so I thought it said a portrait"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "of Dorian Gay. And in fact, I ordered"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "the book and then I looked closer"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "because it was so shadowy."}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "It was too a picture of Dorian Gay."}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "Every single thing he found like what"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "you're talking about 1945 editions, the"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "name is now a picture of Dorian Gray,"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "And so I thought, God, you know, I I try"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "to get behind the nature of things."}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "Yes. and how it works. And that's kind"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "of what I want to talk to you about."}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "What is happening in a very mechanical"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "way, so to speak."}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "Okay. Well, first of all, it um we're"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "going to get into consciousness and"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "quantum physics. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "That's where the only explanations lie."}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "And it's not a cheat to go there because"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "actually we've known"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "that's where it's playing out."}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "That is where it's playing out. And even"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "Max Bourne said that there's no way that"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "we can consider even the material solid"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "things like this table as being anything"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "other than probability waves because all"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "of matter"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "is energy. So where this is playing out"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "is I see it is reflective cognition"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "which is an idea of the way that we pay"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "attention. The way that we pay attention"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "and the levels that we pay attention are"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "everything. And if you look at the work"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "of a philosopher named um Got God"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "Gotfrieded Vilhelm Leipenz tongue"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "twister but okay just call him Lipnetss."}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "He actually said that um there are"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "different levels of awareness. There's"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "the first level of awareness and then"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "there's a what you call the reflective"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "level where you're aware of being aware."}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "That's really what we call"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "consciousness."}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "So, and when you when you t tap into"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "that, that's where you can start"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "witnessing these kinds of reality"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "shifts, whether it's starting a car"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "where the starter doesn't work or any of"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "these examples that we've talked about."}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "Well, you're said you said this that we"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "are not a single operator. We think we"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "have one mind. We remember from one"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "place. But what you say is very true"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "because you bring in the notion we are a"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "combination a complex of conscious mind,"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "subconscious mind, superconscious mind,"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "soul. All these dimensions of mind are"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "operating in a single moment. But we're"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "only aware usually of one of those."}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "Right? And so this is where the"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "awareness, how you are paying attention"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "makes the difference. when you when you"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "remember, oh, I am all of this. So, it's"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "it's just the difference between"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "thinking like a little child might be"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "saying, I want a cookie. I want an ice"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "cream,"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "But then when you tap into your the"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "fullness of your being, you're you're in"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "a different pl state of mind entirely."}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "Yes. So, let's get let's go back to"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "Dorian Gray,"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "right? How does that"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "collective memory?"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "You have a collective memory and now a a"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "changed material reality."}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "What happened? What happens there?"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "Okay. Well, um what I look at again I go"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "back of course to quantum physics"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "because there you can see the way things"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "are working not just on the quantum"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "scale but on all scales. So uh quantum"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "physics is the universal set. This is"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "our true reality."}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "And within the realm of quantum physics,"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "we know we are entangled with others"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "like that web of consciousness is"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "entangled. So all of those of us who are"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "sharing intentions um maybe to see how"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "good it can get to desire to see an"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "improvement of consciousness on the"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "planet. You know, we're connected. We're"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "very much connected. And those of us who"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "have those intentions are definitely at"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "this time observing huge changes in"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "physical reality."}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "Absolutely."}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "I guess the question would be there had"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "to be a mind somewhere, right?"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "An intention or a consensus that for"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "some reason a portrait of Dorian Gay was"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "maybe outmoded, outdated,"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "that maybe the word picture would serve"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "better. I'm saying, you see what I'm"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "saying? Yes."}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "Where and there did something"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "spin into motion or was something placed"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "into motion that then could go and"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "change our quantum physical reality?"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "Exactly. Well, this is a question that"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "came up at our Mandela effect conference"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "that happened. The first one was in"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "Idaho and we had talks. Many of the"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "speakers talked about how can you can"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "look deeper to find the message in such"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "a shift. Right. So then you could ask"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "the question, what is it about the"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "change like you suggested from a"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "portrait to a picture? And I think"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "you're right. There is much more"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "awareness now of what a picture is"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "because we have cameras. We work with"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "pictures. We don't typically get a"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "portrait done of someone,"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "right? Portraits are of the past."}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "Some people, but for the most part,"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "that's a thing of the past. We're pics"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "pic,"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "you know, pic all of that. Everyone"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "knows what a picture is. So somehow in"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "the zeitgeist of our modern"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "consciousness,"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "we relate to the word picture."}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "We do."}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "And so our kind of relational mind"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "impressed a new physical reality on"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "Right? So you could consider it closer"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "to truth. And that's what a lot of these"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "Mandela effects if you look deep enough"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "you can start seeing oh that is deep"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "closer to truth. That is a revelation of"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "truth. So now let's let's go back again"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "to to your thoughts on the most"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "incredibly juicy interesting frontier of"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "the notion of these parallel realities."}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "Well, I think the big news in 2019 had"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "to do with um recognizing that we don't"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "have objective reality. There isn't just"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "one such thing. There's no such thing."}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "This is a big idea."}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "This is very big and this is from the"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "world of science. It there is no"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "objective reality like"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "And that we're still trying to win"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "arguments and debates with each other"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "over what happened and now they're it's"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "being validated. There's no objective"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "reality."}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "That's right. And it it's it's it could"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "be scary for people."}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "Could be freeing. It could be very"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "freeing. Yes. And so the idea of came"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "from the work at the University of"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "Harriet Watt in Edinburgh and also"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "University of Vienna, Austria. And what"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "they did is they did a version of the"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "double slit experiment which I think"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "people have seen that."}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "Sure. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "Yeah. And then with two observers at"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "that same place, same time, trusted"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "observational devices that came up with"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "two very different observations of the"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "experiment at that same place and same"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "time. So there we go. That's proof."}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "That's the proof that we're talking"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "about that we are not living in"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "objective reality where there's only one"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "thing happening. Now all this whole"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "conversation has been about that. So we"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "already know that you and I. And now"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "we're saying this is now becoming"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "scientific fact."}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "So then it gets back to what is our"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "love, our joy, our passion, and our"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "preference,"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "If we're not living in objective"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "reality,"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "then how good can it get?"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "Yes."}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "And that's what you always say, which I"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "love. I love that about you. How good"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "can it get?"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "And that should be our question because"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "we're not a slave to anyone else's"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "perception of anything. Even though we"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "may have a shared common experience here"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "today, for all we know by the time this"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "is edited, it won't be this at all. We"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "just don't know. Right. Right. So, we"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "can only the best a human being can do"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "is to intend for the very highest"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "outcome and fuse fuse it with love"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "with integrity."}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "Fuel it with love."}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "With that ethics and integrity and those"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "words are not used much. They used to."}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "No, they're not. Oh my god. I'm so Thank"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "you because that's really where I'm at"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "on all of this. Yes."}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "Is people are so confused. How do we"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "know what's true? Because right now, you"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "know, our country is in in bit of"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "tatters and people are fighting with"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "each other and everyone's saying, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "but I just don't know what's true. I"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "don't know who to believe.\""}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "Right?"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "No, this is a really big moment in"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "history. I don't know what to believe"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "because there is misinformation dis"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "intentional disinformation right"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "as well that we're all trying to contend"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "with and being bombarded with data"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "and literal different subjective"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "realities"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "and different subjective realities"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "which is a fact. So in a situation like"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "this, I mean my feeling is you got to"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "find your way back to your heart and"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "your own your own um your own system of"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "ethics,"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "And then that has a kind of morality,"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "not a preachy morality, but it has to do"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "with what's generated from the heart in"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "terms of what truly is beneficial versus"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "not."}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "And I think we know that on a deep"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "level. We know that to live a good life,"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "you can trust your heart. you can trust"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "is um just doing things that are good"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "right where you are in your home with"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "your family, caring for others that that"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "are close to you and just being a good"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "person and people I think sometimes if"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "you look at the news you might feel like"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "what difference does it make? How can"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "that change the world? Absolutely it can"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "and it does."}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "Absolutely. I agree with you 100%. and"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "while all the craziness is going on, I"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "just keep saying to people and that I"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "talk to people on all sides of all these"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "issues and I say, \"Yeah, but if you just"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "go back to look at life through the lens"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "of what feels like it's right to you,"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "what what's goodness?"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "Does this measure up?\" Right?"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "If it doesn't measure up, there's your"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "answer. And I know you're hearing all"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "different stories about it, but if it on"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "a feeling level isn't measuring up,"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "that's your starting place to find truth"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "again, right?"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "It starts here. And if it doesn't feel"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "right, remember that you can change the"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "way that you're paying attention."}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "Exactly."}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "You just take a deep breath. Kind of um"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "sometimes something I'll do is just feel"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "like, okay, these are probable realities"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "around me. I'm just going to kind of"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "roll it a bit. Like you're scrolling"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "through your cell phone. Just kind of"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "I'm going to scroll through this. Oh,"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "there we go. This feels much better."}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "Yeah. I mean, and and people could say,"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "\"Wow, what a what an interesting person"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "Cynthia is.\" And you are. Um but also"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "you practice what you know to be true"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "because you came in still integrated"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "right"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "where most of us were disintegrated"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "and then I got inculturated or whatever"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "our society"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "but you didn't forget. So you actually"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "know how these basic mechanics work from"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "those higher extraordinary levels. You"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "actually know of what you speak"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "but this is something we can all do. We"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "could, you know, when you walk down the"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "hall and you're trying to find something"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "and it's almost like you went through a"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "vortex or a portal"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "and you're like, \"What happened?\" And"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "then you come back like, \"What was I"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "looking for?\""}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "Well, you can use that. You can use this"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "experience of going down the hall"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "and like if you don't know what I mean"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "about scrolling through, that's okay. We"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "all know what it feels like when you go"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "down the hall to get something and you"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "can't quite remember what you were"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "doing,"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "Play with that because that's perfect."}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "Just imagine like whatever the situation"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "is you want to change, I'm going to walk"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "down the hall with it and I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "come back and it's going to be a"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "different reality."}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "Yeah. And often times it is. And often"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "times the information blips right back"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "in anyway. That's right. Right. That"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "changes. So I think I mean to me the"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "beauty of conversing with you over this"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "is not just I mean I want I wanted you"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "to get to the mechanics of it and that's"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "really good. I'm glad we did that"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "but our participation and responsibility"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "within it. every everything we're seeing"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "around us, whether it's by default or"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "not, or whether it's by old programming"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "and old beliefs, we're just seeing"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "extensions and fragments of our own"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "thoughts out there playing out and"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "reflected back to us."}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "That's right. And it's hard to see it"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "sometimes because it's easy to fall back"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "into they did this to me or they did"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "this to us."}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "So, it starts with from inside. You're"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "right."}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "And it's and and to keep that love and"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "enthusiasm."}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "Yes. and that choice"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "that choice toward a higher and the"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "highest and the best outcome for all,"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "Because some people would say, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "she's a dreamer um or you know, a an"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "idealist and all these different things"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "in a harsh cold world that we're in"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "today where you got to be pragmatic and"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "you have to do your deals with the devil"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "sometimes.\" I say, \"Not you do not have"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "to do your deals with the devil.\""}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "Thank you. I love that about you. That's"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "so"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "Well, I love that about you. I think is"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "why we get on well. But we do not have"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "to do deals with the devil."}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "No, you don't. You don't. You absolutely"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "do not. I think that's the key when you"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "recognize you can do your own thing like"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "you did and you write about it in your"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "wonderful book. I love that."}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "Thank you."}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "And thank goodness for that."}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "Most people don't know I even wrote one."}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "But it is it's just my experience of"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "what it's like to go through and"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "pick up on the opportunities life"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "presents. Even if they're awkward in the"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "moment, even if they're uncomfortable,"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "right? If you just say yes to that"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "voice, that goodness in yourself,"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "amazing things happen. And that's why I"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "wrote the book was just"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "just for fun really."}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "But it's perfect example of you can walk"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "away from things if they feel like"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "that's not right and you can feel that"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "something better is coming even if you"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "don't know what it is."}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "That's often true. Like when you ask"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "that question, how good can it get? You"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "I find that I'll get things I needed"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "that I didn't even know."}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "No, that's the thing. listening to that"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "part, listening to this"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "multi-dimensional voice inside us."}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "There's nothing wrong with the conscious"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "mind to keep us from running out in"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "front of a car. You know, we need every"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "part of our mind to work together, but"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "we can't have the more fundamental dense"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "part running the whole show."}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "There is a greater consciousness."}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "Yes. And we all have access to it."}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "We do indeed. It's been absolutely"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "wonderful sitting with you. I just love"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "being in your presence. There's so much"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "light there. and thank you for sharing"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "this from a higher perspective of"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "someone who didn't forget, who never"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "disintegrated."}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "Thank you so much."}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "You can find Cynthia's work, Reality"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "Shifts, on Amazon and other book"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "sellers. And keep an eye out for the"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "Mandela Effects Society in the future."}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "Until next time, thank you so much for"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "joining us here on Open Minds."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "We are malleable beings. We're taught"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "that we come into the world with a code"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "that is set in stone and you get what"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "you get. When I go to the doctor's"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "office, if I I go once a year I go for a"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "physical and I fill out this form and"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "they ask the same question. Have either"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "of your parents ever had any of these?"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "And then they give you this list. Well,"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "I have to say yes to all of them because"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "my father had every single one and some"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "that aren't even listed on there. But I"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "also have to say I attribute to"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "lifestyle has nothing to do it has"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "nothing to do with my life now unless I"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "choose to live the life that my father"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "lived. If I choose to live the life that"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "my father lived then I it's very"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "probable that I would have those same"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "experiences. But they link that the"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "thinking is that that DNA is inherited"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "from one generation next to the next and"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "it's locked in stone. Epigenetics is"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "changing all of that. our environment,"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "our external environment, our emotional"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "environment, our psychological"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "environment, our nutritional environment"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "says that all of those things are are"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "subject uh to to change. So, we're not"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "locked in. We are not defined by our"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "past unless we choose to be defined by"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "our past. We're not defined by the"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "genetics that our parents have given us"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "unless we choose to to be defined by"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "those genetics. It's not right, wrong,"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "good, or bad. It's just that this is"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "what we're finding out about ourselves."}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "So, I'm going to I'm going to leave"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "this. Did everybody get a photograph"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "that wanted a photograph of of that? Uh,"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "some of you were were asking um sending"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "little notes back to us. This is a"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "high-end technology uh that is available"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "from the Institute of Heartmath. If you"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "go to their website www.heartmath.org"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "uh that technology is available, but"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "there are other forms. There is an app"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "that you can use on a mobile phone. You"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "purchase a sensor. There's another app"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "for an iPad. They are not as detailed."}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "They are not as sophisticated. They're"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "not uh they don't give you as much"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "information, but they will definitely"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "tell you when you're in coherence and"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "and when you're in you're not if if"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "you're interested in uh in those kinds"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "of things. So, I wanted you to know that"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "those are available."}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "We've just done this. I'm going to go to"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "our next discovery. I want to talk about"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "brain states."}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "This is so interesting to me because"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "when I was in school, most of you when"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "you were in school, we were taught that"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "there were essentially four brain"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "states. And scientists, medical doctors"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "that I talked to said, \"This is it."}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "There can't be anymore because the human"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "brain, the neurons, the circuitry in the"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "human brain cannot possibly sustain"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "higher frequencies than what we already"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "know about right now. So, let me show"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "you. I was in school. Most of you when"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "you were in school, and if you got kids"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "in school now, they're pretty much still"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "teaching this. The first is the the the"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "delta brain state. I know you're"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "familiar with it. Look look at what a"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "long slow wave that is. This is a really"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "deep deep sleep. It's a healing sleep."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "It's what I call black hole sleep. You"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "ever go h have a sleep and you wake up"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "and you don't even know that you've been"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "asleep. You no dreams that you remember."}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "It's just like I guess I was asleep"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "because I woke up. So,"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "and I always am happy when I wake up. I"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "say, \"Wow, I woke up again. This is so"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "awesome. So, that is what the delta"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "waves look like. All right, the theta"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "waves. How many How many in here are"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "involved in theta healing at all? Some"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "of you, you're going to love where we go"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "with this. This is the theta wave. It's"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "still a long slow wave, but it's not"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "quite as slow. It's got a little little"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "bit faster uh a little bit faster uh um"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "uh information happening here. This is"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "where we typically are in meditation."}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "when we go into to deep meditation or"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "the healing state. This is the body's"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "healing state. Now, I'm going to call"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "your attention. I want you to know I"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "said long slow waves. Look at the"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "frequencies."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "0.1"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "hertz to three hertz is the delta wave."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "0.1 hertz to three hertz. Four to seven"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "hertz, seven cycles per second is the"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "theta wave. All right. The alpha wave a"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "little bit faster. You can see this is a"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "faster wave. This is when you're relaxed"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "and in a a very creative state. When I"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "as a musician, when I'm writing a song"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "or I'm trying to learn someone else's"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "song, do a cover or if I'm if I am uh"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "writing a book and uh and developing"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "information and go for the book. Look at"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "this. This goes from 8 to 15 hertz or 15"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "cycles per second. And then beta"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "consciousness. This is hopefully where"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "you are right now. I think most of you"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "are in beta. Some of you might be in"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "alpha right now. I don't know. Deeply"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "relaxed. Um, but the this is when you're"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "alert, you're concentrating 16 to 30"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "cycles per second. It's a lot faster"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "wave. Scientists for years they said"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "that's this is it. They said there can't"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "be anymore. The human brain cannot"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "sustain anything beyond that. Then they"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "began working with the Tibetan"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "meditators"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "and the Tibetans said well actually if"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "we do a certain kind of meditation we"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "can exceed that and the researchers said"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "show us. So what happened was they"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "brought them into the laboratory."}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "They started they started in the the"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "monasteries when they were in Tibet and"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "they actually began with the young"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "people. The young people are trained"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "from very early age to attain these"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "higher brain states and it's easier for"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "them. They've never been conditioned out"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "of it. All right. So the young people,"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "this I love this image. These are"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "Tibetan monks in the monastery in Tibet."}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "And look at the laptops right in front"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "of them and they're they're hooked up to"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "EEG monitors and they're getting"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "readings"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "that the the medical doctors say, \"You"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "can't you can't do that.\" And the monks"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "said okay"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "but we are. So they said we have to"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "bring you into the laboratory in in the"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "US and into Western Europe. So they"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "began bringing them uh so they could put"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "them into devices like this. I love this"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "this and the monks they said we need you"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "to put on a robe so we can do an MRI."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "And the monk says I'm already wearing a"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "robe. I don't I don't need another robe."}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "But they love to laugh. The monks they"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "laugh they love to giggle and they love"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "to laugh. And I think it's important to"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "achieve these these higher brain states."}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "So they said when we begin"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "to do certain kinds of meditation and"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "I'm going to tell you what they are."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "You've actually already em embarked upon"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "this journey already. They said we can"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "exceed"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "30 hertz. We can exceed 30 cycles per"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "second. So the beta brain state was no"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "longer the top. They said, \"We can take"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "this up to another brain state between"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "30 and 80 cycles per second.\" The"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "scientist says, \"Wow, you know, we've"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "never seen that. We didn't know that was"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "possible. We're going to stay with the"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "Greek terminology and we have to have a"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "a name for the new brain state. It's"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "called gamma.\" So, the gamma brain state"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "30 to 80 hertz. But that's it. The human"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "brain is topped out. We cannot possibly"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "embrace it. cannot sustain the human"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "brain cannot sustain anything higher"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "than 80 cycles per second. And the"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "Tibetan said, \"Well, actually uh if we"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "do a little bit different kind of"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "meditation, we can exceed that.\" And the"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "researchers said, \"Well, show me.\" So"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "they went into a deeper form of"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "meditation. And they were able to take"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "that 80 hertz all the way up to what now"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "is called hyper gamma. still the same"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "brain wave, but from 80 hertz all the"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "way up to 100 cycles per second, 100"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "hertz."}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "And the scientists were pretty blown"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "away and they said, \"Okay, maybe we were"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "wrong about this.\" I'm just paraphrasing"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "a scientist. Maybe we were wrong, but"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "this is it. This has to be it. The human"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "brain, the neurons electrically cannot"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "sustain anything beyond 100 cycles per"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "second. It's just not possible."}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "And the Tibetans said, 'Well,"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "if we begin to do a little bit different"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "kind of meditation now, they're not"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "using any external technology. It's all"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "happening in here. And that is why I'm"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "so passionate about sharing it with you."}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "We are wired for these extraordinary"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "potentials. You can use gadgets if you"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "want to get you there, but you don't"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "need them. And this is where we find our"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "mastery. The Tibetan said, \"If we do a"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "different kind of meditation, we can"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "exceed 100 hertz.\" And the scientist"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "said, \"There's no way. How far do you"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "think you can go?\" Well, I'm just going"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "to tell you, they doubled it. They"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "doubled it. And there now is a brain"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "state above hyper gamma. They had to"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "stay with the the naming convention from"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "the the Greek letters. It is called the"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "lambda brain state. The lambda brain"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "state begins at 100 hertz and tops out"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "right now at 200 cycles per second. 200"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "hertz. They are extremely conscious when"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "they are in this state and they are very"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "awake. But if you walked in to someone"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "who is meditating at 200 cycles per"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "second, you wouldn't know that. You"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "might think they're taking a nap because"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "they are so awake within but it's not"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "showing externally."}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "Now I personally believe this is not the"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "end yet because our neurons are designed"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "the way they interact with the field"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "around us they are designed sustain much"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "much more than this and this is we're"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "only beginning to understand. This is"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "part of your humanness. that if we"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "compromise our brain states and begin"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "implanting chips and allowing the chips"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "to do what we are designed to do, we're"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "going to lose these capabilities. The"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "first generation, a few people try it"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "and you say, \"Okay, that's cool. That's"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "fun.\" Pretty soon that becomes the way"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "to do it. And pretty soon, everyone is"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "doing it through a chip and no one"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "remembers how to access this this"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "powerful fast of humanness and then we"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "begin to atrophy those parts of our"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "bodies that we're not using. Does that"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "make sense to you if I say it? So I'm"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "very passionate about this. The humans"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "must prevail."}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "We our humanness is so precious. At"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "least know what it is before we allow it"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "to be compromised. And we are not at"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "that point right now. Let me go one one"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "step further. One step further. So the"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "scientist said, \"Well, this must be it."}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "We now have a new map of the brain"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "states, right?\" And the Tibetan said,"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "\"Well,"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "actually, there is another brain state"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "in a place where you typically don't"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "look. You haven't looked yet. It's on"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "the other end of the spectrum. And they"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "said, 'What do you mean? I mean, the"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "other end of the spectrum, it begins at"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "less than one cycle per second. It"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "begins at 0.1. How can you get less than"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "0.1?"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "Tibetan said, \"We'll show you.\" And they"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "went into a meditation and a brain"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "state,"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "and their brain state is zero cycles per"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "second."}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "to an outside observer. There is no"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "discernable breath. There is no"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "discernable heartbeat. There is no"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "discernable pulse and they are very very"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "much alive and very conscious. It is"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "called the epsilon brain state and it is"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "from zero to 0.1 hertz. Now here's why"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "I'm sharing this with you. It's really"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "interesting. What they discovered, what"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "the scientists found is that the high"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "end of the lambda brain state and the"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "low end of the epsilon, they both lead"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "to the same state of consciousness."}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "Isn't that interesting? They both take"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "you to the same state. One of them"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "you're in a very awake and an aware"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "state. The other one you're more in a"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "dreamlike state. But look at this. They"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "both go to exactly the same place."}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "Different brain states, same state of"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "consciousness."}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "And what this suggests is that we have"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "the ability to tune our brain. When we"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "are creating these different tunings in"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "here, it's allowing us to access"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "different bodies of information out"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "there. Different fields, different"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "places within the field. And as other"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "forms of life do, and this is how we"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "communicate with other forms of life."}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "Horse whispers, dog whispers, cat"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "whispers, plant whispers. what they're"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "doing. They are impathing. We'll talk"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "about empaththing after lunch. They're"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "empaththing with the other beings in"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "their immediate environment and they're"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "tuning their consciousness to those"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "other beings. And this is allowing them"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "to communicate in a very meaningful way."}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "There are different kinds of channeling"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "uh and some do it better than others. So"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "the act of channeling, you could"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "consider the act of channeling the act"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "of tuning your body to a field of"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "information"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "that uh exists in the field that"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "connects all things that is now"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "acknowledged by modern science. Um"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "the act of tuning the body to that"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "place."}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "The reason I'm hesitating is because"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "when conscious full body channels have"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "been measured, what happened is that"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "they were active in all of these brain"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "states simultaneously."}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "At the same time, they were awake and"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "asleep. At the same time, they were in"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "epsilon, they were in lambda. All of"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "these were active at the same time. That"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "is a fully realized, fully potentialized"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "human"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:00", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "Hello friends. My name is Greg Braden."}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "Some of you know me as an author. Some"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "of you know me as a public speaker. Some"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "of you know me as a scientist. What you"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "may not know is that I have spent the"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "bulk of my adult life traveling to some"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "of the most ancient and isolated and"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "remote and beautiful and pristine places"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "remaining in the world today. And it"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "wasn't just for recreation"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "because I wanted to understand what is"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "it that our ancestors had known in their"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "time that we've forgotten in ours"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "perhaps even more. What did our"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "ancestors know that we're only beginning"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "to understand? This is important to us"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "today because of the world we live in."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "We live in a time when we were being"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "inundated with technology. technology in"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "our lives and proposals to put"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "technology into our bodies. What our"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "ancestors said to us very clearly was"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "that we are the technology. And I want"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "to show you from a scientific"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "perspective precisely what that means."}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "How can we be considered as a"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "technology? Let me begin with a story. I"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "live in a remote area in the high desert"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "of northern New Mexico. In 1986, I was"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "hiking through a remote canyon, an"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "archaeological site now that is known as"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "Choco Canyon, a United Nations UNESCO"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "World Heritage site. And I happened to"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "meet a native man on the trail and we"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "began to talk and he told me a story."}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "Let me share his story with you. He"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "said, \"Long ago, the people of this land"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "lived very differently than they do"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "today. They lived closer to the earth."}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "They understood who they were and they"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "remembered their history. They"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "remembered their ancestry."}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "He said, \"Then something happened.\" And"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "even the elders don't know exactly what"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "it was. He said, \"But they forgot who"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "they were. They began to lose the memory"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "of who they were, and they became"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "lonely. And they so long for the"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "connection that their heart knew they"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "used to have, they began to build"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "machines outside of their bodies that"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "mimic the connections that they used to"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "have from inside of their bodies. He"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "said, \"We live in that world today. All"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "the things that you see in the world"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "around us, from radar systems and the"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "internet to artificial intelligence to"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "high-speed computers, as good as they"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "are, every one of them mimics the"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "functions that we already perform inside"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "of our bodies. And he said, we will"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "continue to clutter our external world"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "with all of these machines until one day"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "we remember who we are. And on that day,"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "we let the machines go and we awaken to"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "the deep truth of what it means to be"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "fully human. We awaken the human"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "blueprint within us. Well, I'm sharing"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "that story with you because I think it"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "makes a lot of sense what the elderly"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "man said to me on that trail high in the"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "desert. And every one of the traditions"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "that I've explored have said something"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "very similar."}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "I'm trained to think of the world in"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "terms of cycles. I'm trained to think of"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "the events of our lives in terms of"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "cycles. And so my question was simply,"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "were the events of September 11 part of"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "a pattern that was unfolding in our"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "lives? And if so, were the events of"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "that pattern following cycles that we"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "could have known, that we could have"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "calculated, maybe even predicted?"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "Well, interestingly, my background gave"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "me everything that I needed to answer"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "that question for myself. My background"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "in the hard sciences, uh, I'm a degreed"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "geologist, a strong background in life"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "sciences, which are all about cycles, as"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "well as my experience in the"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "corporations where I had the opportunity"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "to put my scientific background to the"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "test to use it in problem solving in"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "Fortune 500 companies. All of these"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "experiences prepared me to answer the"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "question that I had just asked myself."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "Well, during the 1980s, I I worked in"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "the defense industry as a senior"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "computer systems designer. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "sharing that with you now because my job"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "at that time was to write software"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "looking for patterns in data. The same"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "kinds of patterns that I now suspected"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "were playing out in the repeating cycles"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "of of history as 9/11. So my thinking"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "was very simple. Uh it was based upon"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "three very fundamental scientifically"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "sound principles. Number one, Einstein's"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "equations forever merged our thinking of"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "time and space into the concept of what"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "we call spaceime. And we discussed this"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "in the the last episode. Number two,"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "that means that everything that we know"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "in our lives, everything we know in our"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "world, it's happening within the matrix"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "described in the previous episodes in"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "spacetime. So no matter what it is, all"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "the good things, all the bad things, the"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "greatest joys, the deepest pains,"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "everything is happening within this"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "matrix, this field of energy. And what"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "this means is that everything from love"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "and war and peace and the rise and fall"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "of the stock markets and the rise and"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "fall of civilizations, they're all part"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "of this spaceime. So if we understand"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "how space and time are unfolding, they"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "are informing us as to how these cycles"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "are repeating and possibly where they"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "begin in our lives. So that brings us to"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "number three. Number three, principle"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "number three, the things that happen in"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "spaceime, it makes sense that they would"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "follow the rules of nature, natural"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "rhythms, natural cycles that unfold as"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "nature's mathematics, things like the fi"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "ratio or the golden mean. Number four,"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "all of this says that we can think of"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "the things that happen in time as places"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "within the cycles of time, locations in"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "time. And if that's true, it means those"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "locations can be measured and calculated"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "and predicted. So it all boils down to a"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "single key. And the key is simply this."}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "If you know where you are in a cycle,"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "then you can know when the conditions"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "that began that cycle, what are called"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "the seed, when that seed will repeat"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "again. So I want to be absolutely clear"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "about what I'm saying here. We're"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "talking about predicting when the"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "conditions of an event may repeat, not"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "necessarily the event itself. Let me"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "just give you an example of of what I"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "mean here. I grew up in the Midwest of"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "the United States uh in Missouri, the"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "state of Missouri, and it was part of a"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "region that was known as Tornado Alley."}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "Tornado Alley is a geographic location,"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "uh where the weather patterns every year"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "are very predictable. When the moist air"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "out of the Gulf comes up and the cold"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "air from uh the Arctic comes down and"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "they meet uh over the Midwest, those"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "summer conditions, they precipitate the"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "opportunity for tornadoes to appear"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "during those warm months, usually"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "between uh June, July, and August. So,"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "here's the key. Those conditions, the"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "conditions may be present. It doesn't"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "necessarily mean that a tornado is going"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "to happen. Okay? So the conditions for"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "the tornado, conditions that precipitate"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "a tornado may be present. It doesn't"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "predict that there will be a tornado. In"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "the same way, when we're talking about"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "cycles of time, if we know an event that"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "seeded a pattern of energy in a cycle,"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "if we know when that happened, and if we"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "know that that pattern of energy is"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "going to follow nature's laws, nature's"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "mathematics, nature's rhythms, then we"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "can tell when the energy of that seed"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "returns. Those are the conditions that"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "will allow an event. doesn't necessarily"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "mean that the event will happen because"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "we always have free will. We always have"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "the free will to determine a different"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "outcome within the cycle."}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "So I want to be very clear about what"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "we're talking about so that we can apply"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "this to 9/11 and other events on a"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "global level and ultimately to the"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "events of our lives on a personal level."}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "For those events to make sense, we've"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "got to understand how these patterns and"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "rhythms and cycles work. So I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "invite you to think about it like this."}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "A cycle begins with an event that sets"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "into motion a pattern of energy. And"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "that pattern will repeat on a rhythmic"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "basis following the mathematics of"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "nature again and again and again until"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "something changes the pattern. So if the"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "pattern doesn't change then the event"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "will continue to repeat on a scale that"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "is predictable and something that we can"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "calculate. Uh a perfect example of this"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "uh in nature climate is a cyclic"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "phenomenon. The economics of the world"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "are based upon cycles. Human conflict we"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "now know is directly linked to the"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "cycles, solar cycles, the cycles of the"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "sun and how the magnetic fields of the"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "sun influence the magnetic fields of the"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "earth and the magnetic fields of the"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "human heart. We talked about this in"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "episode one. When the magnetic fields"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "are strong, humans are more willing to"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "cooperate. We're less aggressive. When"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "the magnetic fields are weak, just the"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "opposite happens. So I'm sharing these a"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "couple of examples of of natural rhythms"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "and natural cycles that repeat again and"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "again and again on a rhythmic basis that"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "can be known and calculated. Well, our"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "experiences as individuals, our"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "collective experiences, our global"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "experiences appear to follow the same"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "rhythm and the same pattern."}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "So what's interesting about these"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "patterns, I'm going to invite you to"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "think about this in your mind. Visualize"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "this on on the whiteboard of your mind."}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "A seed event sets into motion a pattern"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "of energy. All right, that seed event"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "can be anything emotionally significant"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "on a global or on a personal level. All"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "right, so the seed event sets a pattern"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "in motion and the pattern follows the"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "rhythm and that rhythm determines"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "nature's math determines when that cycle"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "ends and when the next one begins. And"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "this is where it's especially useful to"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "know about what we're talking about"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "because there is a place between where"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "one cycle ends and the next cycle begins"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "where neither is present for a period of"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "time. That place is called the choice"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "point. In a choice point, we have the"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "opportunity to change the pattern before"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "the next cycle begins. This is true in"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "our personal relationships, as you'll"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "see. It's also true on a global level as"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "you will also see. So I'm I'm describing"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "these principles so that we can now go"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "in and actually apply them in a way that"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "helps us to understand why these events"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "are happening the way they're happening."}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "Be very clear. It doesn't condone, it"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "doesn't excuse, but it gives us a"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "greater meaning. We step back and look"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "at the big picture and we say, is the"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "world going crazy? The world's not going"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "crazy. The world is experiencing the"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "consequences of patterns that have been"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "set into motion. And if we know that, if"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "we are empowered to know that, we are"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "also empowered to use the opportunity,"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "the potent opportunity of a choice point"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "to change the patterns in the next"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "cycles. I also want to be very clear"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "that we can make a choice any time. So"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "we're not bound only to the choice"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "point. The value of knowing about the"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "choice point is that is when the deck is"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "stacked in our favor. That is when our"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "choices can be the most potent because"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "they occur at a place between the"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "cycles. This this place of the between"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "our ancestors have known for a very long"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "time. It's the space between is where"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "the action is. When we talk about"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "prayer, for example, our ancestors have"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "always told us there are two times"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "during a day on earth, a day in this"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "world when our prayers could be the most"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "potent. It's the time in between. It is"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "in the morning when the light"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "shows in the sky yet the sun has not"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "appeared. So it's not really nighttime"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "yet it's not daytime. It's called the"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "crack between the worlds. And the crack"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "between the worlds happens again at"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "dusk. The sun disappears but the sky is"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "still light. The stars aren't out yet."}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "That is the time when it is the most"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "potent to offer our prayers according to"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "our indigenous and ancient traditions."}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "Well, quantum physics tells us the same"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "thing that we are not continuous beings"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "that we are pulsing pulsing fields of"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "quanta. This is the qualities of light,"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "little packets of light that are the"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "study of quantum physics. So, we are not"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "continuous. And it's the space between"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "each of those quantum bursts is where we"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "have the opportunity for change. Well,"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "it's hard to time that change. As you'll"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "see in later episodes, you don't have to"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "because there are states of"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "consciousness where we can grab on to to"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "the space in between to make the change."}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "And I'm just sharing this so that you"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "know the principles we're talking about."}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "These are universal principles that"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "apply to the world around us. They're"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "they're not metaphors and they're not"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "something that someone just made up for"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "this specific episode. Okay. So, uh,"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "with these ideas in mind, I want to take"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "a look at what these cycles mean to us,"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "what 9/11 meant to us. As I began to"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "consider everything that I've just"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "shared with you, the role of cycles,"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "nature's rhythms, nature's mathematics,"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "uh, what cycles mean in our lives, I"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "used my background in computer science"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "and math and the physical sciences to"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "build an algorithm that reflected"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "everything that I've just shared. what I"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "now call a time code calculator. Uh and"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "you're seeing an image of this"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "calculator on the screen. Uh it is a"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "very simple interface that allows us to"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "enter uh a series of parameters"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "including dates of when specific events"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "have happened so that we can use the"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "algorithm nature's mathematics to"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "determine when a pattern of energy would"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "repeat. when a pattern uh such as 9/11"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "would repeat in our lives again."}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "Okay, using the calculator that you see"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "on the screen and in and mode number one"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "and mode number one is the mode that"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "helps us to understand when an event of"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "the past will repeat again in a"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "particular cycle of time. That's mode"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "number one."}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "The second field on the calculator uh is"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "the cycle within which the event is"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "happening. And these are huge cycles of"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "time. And for this particular"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "calculator, I used a Mayan cycle of"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "1,872,000"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "days or the 5,125"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "year cycle based upon cosmic events that"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "we've talked about in other programs."}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "And I'll talk about it again here in"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "just a few moments. So, for the purpose"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "of what we're doing now, uh the"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "5,000-year cycle is what I ended into"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "the uh the second field. In the third"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "field, the calculator asks for the seed"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "date. We don't have to look very far to"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "find the date because the date is"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "December 7th, 1941."}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "It is a day that then President Franklin"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "Roosevelt named as a day of infamy, a"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "day that would go down in history. It"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "was the surprise and the attack of"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "America uh in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. So,"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "this was what I found as an event that"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "matched the characteristics of what we"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "experienced as 9/11. This is what I used"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "as the seed to plant into the"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "calculator. So my thinking is that this"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "event, the Pearl Harbor attack, set into"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "motion a pattern of energy that would"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "repeat on a rhythmic cyclic basis the"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "pattern of America being surprised and"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "attacked. And if so, it should from the"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "seed date, it should give us 9/11 as one"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "of the fractal cycles of the repeating"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "time."}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "So when we plug in the date and we allow"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "the algorithm to do what the algorithm"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "does, what we find is this. The first"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "output from the calculator is a date"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "that surprised me at first, surprised a"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "lot of people that were seeing this."}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "The first fractal gave me the date of"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "1984."}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "And I looked at 1984 and I said, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "there was no surprise attack of America"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "in 1984.\""}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "But I looked a little closer and what I"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "discovered is that there was a planned"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "surprise attack on America in 1984. And"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "let me just tell you a little bit about"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "what happened. In September of 1983,"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "there was a Boeing 747 aircraft. It was"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "a Korean airliner aircraft that had"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "accidentally strayed into Russian"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "airspace. This was during the height of"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "the Cold War. Suspicions were high and"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "that plane was shot down and all 269"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "people aboard that plane were killed,"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "including a US congressman. his name was"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "Lawrence McDonald. That the fractal time"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "calculator had calculated that date as"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "the date 1984 is when the attack was was"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "planned to happen. The event happened in"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "' 83. The surprise attack was planned"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "for the spring of 84. And that is"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "precisely when the calculator told us"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "that the pattern reoccurred where we"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "could expect a surprise attack on"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "America again. So with this in mind,"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "suddenly I knew that this calculator was"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "correct and it gave us the ability to"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "look into the past for big events in the"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "world. So as I began to look at other"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "significant dates, I chose dates of of"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "global events that were undeniable. So"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "for example, uh the first world war, the"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "first world war, the seed for first"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "world war was 1914. that planted a seed"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "that set into motion a pattern of energy"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "that would repeat as World War the"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "conditions for World War again and again"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "and again. Lo and behold, the date hit"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "exactly on the date for World War II. It"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "hit on possible dates in between. It hit"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "on a date of 2016."}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "I want you to hold that in mind because"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "I'm going to talk about other dates. I"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "plugged in the first date when the world"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "saw a global pandemic, the ep epidemic"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "of the flu. This was the first time in"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "the 20th century this happened. The year"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "was 1918. So 1918 became the seed for"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "when we could reasonably expect the"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "conditions of this pattern to repeat."}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "And again, not necessarily the actual"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "event, but when would those conditions"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "repeat? Well, I got a lot of other dates"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "that came with this, including the date"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "of 2016. You're seeing a pattern develop"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "here. I looked at global collapse. When"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "is the first time we had a global"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "collapse of the economic system? 1929"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "was the seed date for an economic"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "collapse. When could we reasonably"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "expect for the conditions of that"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "economic collapse to happen again? Well,"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "a number of other dates came up. Those"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "dates have all passed. The last date was"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "2016."}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "So when we look at this,"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "what is happening with this date of"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "2016? Why is that date repeating again"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "and again and again? So I'm going to go"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "back to the first seed date that we"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "talked about after 9/11. It was the the"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "seed date for global war, 1914. I'm"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "going to read to you the dates"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "that came up as opportunities for that"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "pattern to repeat again. After 1914, the"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "first seed was 1973."}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "After that the repeat was 1997. After"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "that the repeat was 2006. After that the"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "repeat was 2009. Then 2011, then 2012,"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "then 2016. Can you see what's happening"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "here? Can you see that the time between"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "each of those dates is getting closer"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "and closer and closer together. For"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "example, between 1914 1973, that's 59"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "years. Between 1973 and 97 that's 24"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "years. Between 1997 2006 that's 9 years."}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "2006 to 2009 is 3 years. 2009 to 11 is 2"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "years. 2011 to 2012 is 1 year. Can you"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "see what's happening as we get closer to"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "the end of the cycle?"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "The potential for the repeat of the"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "patterns is collapsing. That's becoming"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "closer and closer and closer until we"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "reach the year 2016."}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "2016 was the opportunity for all of"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "these cycles previous to reoccur again."}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "And the question is, what is the big"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "deal? What is significance about 2016?"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "Well, to explain that, I'm going to have"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "to go back in time just a little bit,"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "just for a moment. If you remember the"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "conversations about the Mayan calendar"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "and the the descriptions that I shared"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "in season 1 of the Mayan calendar, Mayan"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "calendar is the most accurate system of"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "timekeeping known to exist before the"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "20th century. And it is the most"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "accurate even in the 20th century for"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "predicting massive cosmic cycles. Cycles"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "that go beyond simply what's happening"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "in our everyday world. The Mayan"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "calendar told us that there have been"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "four cycles in the past. Each cycle uh"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "of 5,125"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "years and that we have just completed"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "the fifth and the final cycle in that"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "series of cycles. So together, those"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "five cycles of 5,125 years, they're"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "telling us about a 26,000year cycle"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "called the precession of the equinoxes."}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "Those cycles ended on December 12th,"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "2012. And this was a significance of"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "that particular date. That was the solar"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "significance of that date. However, the"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "mathematicians tell us and the Mayans"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "themselves tell us that there is a"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "buffer of time that overlaps the end of"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "the cycle. The cycle doesn't end in a"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "moment. The world doesn't stop and"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "change in a moment. It's a slow gradual"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "change. It's a buffer that lasts for 36"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "years. And our 36-year long buffer that"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "began in 1980 ended in the year 2016."}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "So what that means is that the events"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "that are happening within that cycle,"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "all of the previous events that have"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "been potential, as we get closer and"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "closer to the end of the cycle, the time"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "between one event happening and the"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "completion of that event and the next"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "collapses into what we call a"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "simultaneous event. What that means is"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "that the year 2016 was the year when all"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "of the seeds for all the frightening"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "things could have happened for global"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "war, for the pandemic, for economic"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "collapse. If you remember earlier in"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "this episode, I talked to you about the"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "significance of the space between the"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "cycles. When one cycle ends before the"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "next one begins, there's a space in"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "between. That's called the choice point."}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "It's true for personal cycles, and we're"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "going to talk about that another"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "episode. It's true for global cycles."}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "And what that says to us is that 2016,"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "at the end of that buffer, we were in"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "that period of a choice point. Not only"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "was 2016 the opportunity for the most"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "frightening of the cycles to repeat, it"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "is also the opportunity, the greatest"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "opportunity for peace in our world. It's"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "the greatest opportunity for economic"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "economic abundance. It's the greatest"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "opportunity to transcend all the cycles"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "in the past. And what does that mean to"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "us today? The cycles of time. They are"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "real. They begin with a seed that sets"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "into motion a pattern that repeats until"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "something changes that cycle. You and I"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "are living this rare, precious moment."}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "In the history of our world, in the"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "history of our civilization, the history"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "of our lives, you and I are living the"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "greatest opportunity for peace, the"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "greatest opportunity to bring about"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "positive change in this world in the"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "most meaningful way that we have seen in"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "5,000 years of recorded human history."}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "The same time cycles that play out on"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "the big scale of the world also direct"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "the turning points of change for our"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "lives on a smaller scale. In the next"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "episode, we'll discover how to calculate"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "the optimum time for healthy change in"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "our personal patterns of fractal time."}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "So, I want to thank you for joining me"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "for today's program, and be sure to tune"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "in for our next allnew episode of The"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "Divine Matrix, Bridging Time, Space,"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "Miracles, and Belief."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "You and I are biologically wired to"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "exceed the limits of what we once"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "believed possible in our lives. In this"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "episode, we'll discover how our super"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "inner technology works, as well as the"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "ancient technique that uses this"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "technology to create the most advanced"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "states of consciousness known to exist."}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "When I was in school in the 1950s,60s"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "and in the early '7s, I was taught that"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "there are four brain states that we"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "operate in between our waking everyday"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "reality and the deepest states of sleep."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "Well, new discoveries have changed all"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "that. They show us that now those four"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "states are only part of the picture."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "Now, we know that there are at least"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "twice that number of brain states, and I"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "believe very possibly even more. Now,"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "here's what I mean by this. Typical"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "brain states of the past began at the"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "bottom of the scale with the very slow"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "delta waves, the long waves that range"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "between 0.5 and three cycles per second"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "or hertz. These are the waves that we"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "typically experience in our really deep"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "states of sleep, sometimes when we don't"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "even know that we're dreaming. The next"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "brain state is a little bit faster, but"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "it still is a slow wave as well. It's"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "called the theta brain state. These are"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "long waves. They range between three"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "cycles per second or three hertz and"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "eight cycles per second. So this is the"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "brain state that we experiences uh like"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "light meditation or we begin drifting"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "into sleep and in the typical dream"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "states and it's also the brain state"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "that is associated with very deep states"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "of healing. And that's going to be"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "important for where we're going as we go"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "through these new brain states. Well,"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "following the theta brain state or the"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "alpha waves that range between 8 and 12"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "hertz, 8 and 12 cycles per second."}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "Alpha, that's where we experience a very"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "deep relaxation. And when we first begin"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "to meditate, when you close your eyes,"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "you take those first few deep breaths"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "and and you shift your sympathetic and"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "parasympathetic nervous systems. This is"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "the state that we begin to drift into."}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "And from alpha, the next is the beta,"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "the very common brain state. Uh it's"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "typically ranging between about 12 and"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "36 cycles per second or 12 and 36 hertz."}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "And this is our typical uh everyday"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "waking brain state. Uh hopefully the"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "state that you're probably in when"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "you're watching me right now. New"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "discoveries now have changed all that."}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "And what I find really fascinating is"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "that these discoveries were made"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "possible through documenting the"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "meditative techniques of Tibetan monks."}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "It was only when scientists went into"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "the monasteries in Tibet and they took"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "at that time relatively primitive"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "equipment and they began to monitor the"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "brain waves of these monks that they"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "discovered that something was happening"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "in their bodies that was beyond what had"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "been documented in the past. I had the"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "opportunity to see the monks, the nuns,"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "the abbotts actually practicing these"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "traditions, actually moving into the"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "states. And I also had the opportunity"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "to see the attempt to document what some"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "of these monks were doing. And I say and"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "emphasize the word attempts because it"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "didn't work as well as researchers had"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "hoped. They could obviously tell that"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "something was happening. They couldn't"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "really get a handle on what it was. So"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "it was only when they were able to"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "invite those monks and nuns and abbotts"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "from those high alitude monasteries in"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "the Tibetan plateau into the laboratory"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "here in the United States. And they used"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "really sophisticated equipment that was"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "too big, too massive, too heavy to"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "transport all the way into Tibet. And"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "they were able to use scanning"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "techniques, MRIs and CT scans to"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "actually see what was happening in the"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "brain and the body of these people as"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "they were going through this process"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "that science was able to document the"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "advanced brain states that I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "share with you right now. So all this is"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "is relatively new. It's a relatively"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "different way of thinking about it. So"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "the researchers measuring the activity"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "of these monks using this new"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "technology, they were surprised when"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "they discovered first of all a brain"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "state above the beta brain state. It"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "began where the beta brain state ended"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "at 36 hertz and it extended as high as"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "44 hertz. But this was news to the"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "researchers at the time. So this new"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "brain state, they said, \"Well, we don't"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "know what to call it, but it has"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "different characteristics.\" They were"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "looking at the waves from the EEG"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "and from 36 to 44 hertz the"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "characteristics of the waves are very"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "different. So they they couldn't call"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "them high beta. They need to call them"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "something. So following the notation,"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "the standards for the notation used in"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "the past, they called this new brain"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "state gamma. This is the gamma brain"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "state. And the characteristics of the"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "gamma were fascinating. Uh, one of the"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "characteristics is the sense of"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "well-being, the sense of unity, the"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "sense of connectedness with all things."}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "It is a system where we feel like all"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "systems are go, that we're in the zone."}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "Sometimes athletes achieve this state"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "and they may not even know what to call"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "it. But the more the researchers"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "explored the higher brain states"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "revealed by the monks and the nuns, the"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "higher the numbers appeared to go. And"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "they discovered yet another range of"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "waves that had gamma characteristics."}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "But this range extended far beyond the"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "gamma waves that have been measured in"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "the past. It went, listen to this, it"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "went from 44 hertz all the way to 100"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "hertz. Look at the range of this state."}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "44 to 100 cycles per second. But it had"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "the same characteristics as gamma. So it"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "was a form of gamma, a higher form of"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "gamma. So this newly discovered brain"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "state is now called hyper gamma and it"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "provided the deepest forms of of insight"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "and intuition uh that the monks were"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "accessing at the time. So the"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "researchers they were thinking well you"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "know we've we've now reached the end of"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "uh of the brain's capacity. There must"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "not be anything else. And when they felt"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "that further research revealed yet"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "another even higher brain state and this"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "again was revealed through the"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "meditation certain kinds of meditation"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "certain sects of Tibetan monks have been"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "trained in a specific way and this is a"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "rare brain state that I'm going to talk"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "to you about. It exceeds everything"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "believed to be humanly possible in the"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "past. It exceeds hyper gamma. It begins"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "at the high end of the hyper gamut 100"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "hertz. Listen to this. It extends all"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "the way to 200 cycles per second. 200"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "hertz in the human brain. It's called"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "the lambda brain state. So what happens"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "in the lambda brain state? Well, it's in"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "this state that the left hemisphere and"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "the right hemisphere of the brain"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "becomes synchronized. And in that"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "synchronization, it allows tremendous"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "levels, tremendous states of"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "self-regulation."}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "For example, you may have seen videos or"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "documentaries of um of monks meditating"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "in sub-zero temperatures, in the ice, in"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "the snow, in the high elevations in"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "Nepal or Tibet. When you see monks doing"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "things like this, this is happening in"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "this uh in this extended brain state. Uh"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "and I've seen where not only are they"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "they doing this, but they will will"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "drench a cloth, a cotton or a linen"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "cloth with water and wrap themselves the"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "loin cloth and wrap themselves in a wet"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "cloth before going out into the subzero"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "freezing temperatures or sub freezing"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "temperatures, sub-zero and subfreezing."}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "And they will sit on the ground on the"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "bare ground where typically in subzero"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "temperatures our our bodies the warmth"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "of our bodies would create a layer of"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "ice and it would freeze and we'd stick."}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "That's not what happens to these monks."}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "They begin to self-regulate their body"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "temperature and they self-regulate to"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "the point where steam begins to come off"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "of the the linen or the cotton claws and"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "they they actually dry on the bodies of"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "the monks. The monks regulate their"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "temperature so that the cold is not a"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "problem for them. So what is astounding"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "is all of these discoveries sound right"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "now. I want you to know that they don't"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "end with the lambda brain state. A new"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "brain state now has been discovered."}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "This one it's on the other end of the"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "spectrum. Remember we said that the"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "delta brain state was the long slow wave"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "deep sleep no dreams."}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "That's an extremely low brain state"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "below delta that has recently been"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "discovered. Now listen to this. It"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "begins at only 0.5 cycles per second,"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "1/2 of a hertz, and it ranges downward"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "to zero to nothing. It is possible for"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "humans to engage in a brain state that"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "brings the brain activity down to a"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "level of zero. Nothing is being emitted"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "from the brain. The seemingly bizarre"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "brain state, it's associated with what"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "we would call suspended animation. When"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "the monks are in this state, there's no"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "detectable heartbeat. They cannot detect"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "a pulse. There's no detectable"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "breathing. Well, I want to tell you the"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "monks are very much alive and they are"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "very conscious within this state. Now,"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "I'm sharing these discoveries with you."}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "We're going somewhere with this because"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "if you think about what I'm saying to"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "you with regard to the brain states,"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "think about what this means in terms of"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "our conversation about the divine"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "matrix. That matrix is a field of"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "energy. Once again, I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "emphasize this again and again because"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "we're so conditioned to think of"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "ourselves in the field. It's not that"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "we're in the field. We are the field."}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "The field is every atom of our bodies"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "constantly emerging in these quantum"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "pulses from this field and our ability"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "to interact with this fields determined"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "by our heart and our brain state. So"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "what I'm sharing with you are brain"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "states that now give us access to places"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "and experiences in this field in ways"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "that science has never recognized in the"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "past. Now I'm not saying that ancient"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "indigenous peoples didn't know this. Of"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "course they did. I mean the monks have"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "been doing this for at least 1500 years."}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "But it has not been documented"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "scientifically. So, I'm sharing all of"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "these discoveries because of yet an"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "additional discovery that now links"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "these brain states, the highest of the"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "high and the lowest of the low. It links"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "these brain states in a way that tells"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "us even more about our relationship to"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "the matrix."}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "Scientists have recently discovered this"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "very curious link between the low of the"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "epsilon, remember it goes from 0.5 hertz"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "all the way to zero, and the high of the"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "lambda that goes all the way up to 200"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "cycles per second, 200 hertz. As"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "different as they are in frequency,"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "this is so interesting. They both allow"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "for precisely the same state of"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "consciousness. Think about that. As"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "different as they are from the highest"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "state to the lowest state, different"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "ways of getting there, they both bring"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "us to precisely the same state of"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "consciousness."}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "The one difference is that when we"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "achieve the low state of consciousness"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "through the epsilon brain state, we"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "achieve it through a very drowsy state"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "that typically would allow us to"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "facilitate a a deep sleep. But when we"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "access the state of consciousness"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "through the very high state of lambda,"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "we don't get drowsy. We go into this"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "state of consciousness in a very full"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "and in a very awakened state."}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "So I'm going to offer you a little"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "formula that you can think of and carry"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "in your lives when you want to optimize"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "your opportunity for your greatest"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "potentials. And the formula is simply"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "this. Heartbrain coherence plus the"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "gamma brain state equals all systems go."}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "When you create the heartbrain coherence"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "and into that space of coherence, you"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "drop the gamma state of consciousness."}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "Now you have become a very different"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "person. You have transcended the"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "judgments of your peers, of your"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "society, of your culture, of your family"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "and you are opening the door to a deep,"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "deep, deep communication with the field"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "of energy, the divine matrix. And that"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "is where your master begins. So it's"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "from this place of extraordinary"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "abilities that we actually learn to hack"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "the matrix. We learn to hack the matrix"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "as we are no longer subject to the laws"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "of physics as we know them today. We're"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "no longer confined to the limits of"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "space and time. It's from this place"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "where we create the prayers that"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "influence the healing of our bodies in a"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "very powerful, very profound way as well"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "as the world beyond our bodies."}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "Through embracing the deepest truths of"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "our relationship to the divine matrix,"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "we are given the key to transcend the"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "rules of physics and time and space that"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "seem to limit us in this world. In doing"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "so, we truly hack the divine matrix as"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "we express our highest levels of"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "mastery. In the next episode, we'll"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "discover the prayer code from a"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "2500year-old text that gives us the"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "instructions to breathe life into our"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "most heartfelt creations. I want to"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "thank you for joining me for today's"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "program. Be sure to tune in for our next"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "allnew episode of the Divine Matrix,"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "bridging time, space, miracles, and"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "belief."}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "One of the most fascinating works I've come across in the last few decades of research was a book titled Thunderbolts"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "of the Gods. In it, authors David Talbet and Walter Thornhill made a solid case for the different alignment of the"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "planets in ancient times, an alignment that allowed the ancient civilizations to see cosmic events with their naked"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "eye. More so, they captured the events in rock art. rock art that we have overlooked as primitive when in fact"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "it's giving us a fascinating history of Earth's past. David Hal Talbet is here today to share his findings on this and"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "I have I've looked forward to meeting you for a long time as we found out everybody at Gam's been looking forward to your arrival."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "Glad to be here. when you start adding the newer uh technology, cosmological"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "technology, Hubble and the like, where we're now able to actually glimpse into through well through a lens, but glimpse"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "into the phenomena that's out there that we are no longer able to see with our"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "naked eye. It's validating the rock art. Well, uh, and you asked me about the"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "cosmic thunderbolt, and I should have actually I should have drawn that to a decisive point in the history of"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "Let me give you this. This is out of your book. It is the thunderbolt that steers the universe. We have a beautiful"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "image of this. Now, let's talk about that. Indeed, the cosmic thunderbolt was"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "for me my bridge to the research of Wall Thornhill, who is the premier"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "investigator within the electric universe community. There are many others, but Wall Thornnehill came to"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "Portland, Oregon late in 1996, and he had seen these reconstructions of my"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "own. And he was so convinced of uh the meaning of that reconstruction"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "that he stayed in my office for 30 days to persuade me that these were electric"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "discharge phenomena, his specialty. And I was completely persuaded for this"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "reason. Once it became clear to me that the mythic thunderbolt in the antique"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "world was a bridge between the electric"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "universe and my own work. We had the most natural convergence between us. So"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "Thunderbolts of the Gods actually gives us a point of common discussion because"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "as you said the Hubble telescope and other telescopes are now looking out across the entire electromagnetic"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "spectrum and they're seeing spectacular events in the sky and guess what they reveal similarities to the cosmic"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "thunderbolt. Yes. And this is well worth investigating because I mean I can tell"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "you no one historically wondering about what was acting on human imagination"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "ever ever even dreamt of something electrical in the sky"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "yet inspiring these images and then once it's once it's it's open for discussion everybody can"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "see it and that's what we're experiencing right now. There's what your work is beautiful. There's this"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "sense now of a spectacular unification of thought now about the"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "origins of of human uh religions,"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "institutional interpretations of things that have made no sense to us. All of"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "the ritual practices, the magical practices, the superstitions, the rock art, as you said, all the great artistic"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "motifs that dominated the early phases of human history, the beginnings of languages and pictographs that are"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "inseparable from that, those artistic traditions, the the the pictographs evolving into"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "abstractions that become alphabets and so on. This is just such an interesting"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "field because in the points of agreement between all of the ancient cultures,"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "there are certain forms that stand out. Now, one for example is this"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "stupendous wheel turning in the sky. Yes. Just a wheel in the sky and an axle of"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "the wheel and spokes that are the extension of a star that is the hub of"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "the wheel with the axle in the center of it. I mean just describing it in words. Many people who are familiar with"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "ancient art, they'll say, \"Oh, yeah. Well, that is it. There's there's the wheel, the rim of the wheel, the axles, there's the hub, and then there's the"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "axle.\" But did you know that the axle was identified as the warrior hero? Well, what does that mean? The moment"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "you recognize that, you have libraries of evidence that are opening up to you."}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "And then you hear that, well, that star was identified as the planet Venus."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "Yes. Yes. And you see there are these streamers that that actually are suggestive of electric discharge."}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "There's a symmetry to them and there is symmetry to electric discharge activity. What what was happening to the planet"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "Venus that identified it as the hub and the spokes of this spectacular turning"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "wheel in the sky. And and then you begin to notice well this this wasn't just an"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "esoteric thought that occurred to them. They were building temples and cities and they were using this wheel as the"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "model for them. These were the wheel cities and so on. So all of this monumental activity which"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "was fundamentally commemorative. A monument is a commemoration of"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "something and we just draw blanks when we look back at this stuff. There's we don't see commemoration of anything"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "meaningful. No, not at all. Just looks like primitive art. and and and partially because even as children, what are the"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "some of the most common things we draw? It would be a sun. A sun like a spoked"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "wheel. It would be little five-pointed stars. These are the most natural expressions globally of children around"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "the world that that we start drawing as soon as we're able to hold our pencils in our hands."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "This is this is in the area of more speculation, lower level of confidence"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "than the reconstruction itself. But there's evidence that the events and the formations in the sky that were"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "experienced persisted in human in the human psyche as subconscious straighta."}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "I mean this is what Carl Yung was saying but he never wondered what where did these archetypes come from"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "but but we're simply saying hey extraordinary natural events provoked an"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "out outpouring of human imagination and those are the mythic archetypes. Well and as above so below. You cannot"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "disconnect our electrical matrix with the cosmos. There must be much more to that"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "connectivity than we've even dreamt of. Velikovsky's hypothesis about the"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "origins of humankind rocked your world. Now, let's just set this conversation up"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "with why. Well, at the core of Elakovsk's work, I mean, this was the"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "culminating work really in his life was the idea that the planetary system that"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "we know today is new. Planets haven't always moved on these courses. Science"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "has been saying with full confidence that planets have always moved ones. So"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "science as a whole did not take kindly to Velikovsky's pronouncement that the planet Venus was new and that it was"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "formerly a comet and it was devastating in its impact on all of humanity."}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "And to say this, he committed a crime. He used ancient myths and legends and"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "primitive astronomical accounts to verify the"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "claimed role of Venus as a worldthreatening comet and that was not"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "permissible. And so Velikovski not only saw his number one bestseller"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "dropped by the publisher McMillan but this was a very distinguished scientist"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "a colleague of Sigman Freud Freud and of Albert Einstein for example"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "u who lost all of his credibility in the eyes of mainstream scientists"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "and that's a story unto itself the devastating impact that had on Velikovsky personally."}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "But the space age fortunately followed the"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "uh publication of Worlds in Collision. Yes. And the thing about facts coming back to"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "us from space is that they didn't lend any veracity to the ideas that were used"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "against Velikovski. I mean this is just the historic record. Mhm. We can no more say that planets have"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "always moved on the same courses as they do today. I mean all of the historical evidence now as we begin to actually"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "look at it systematically and logically, rationally, the evidence says that"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "civilization as a whole emerged out of wholesale catastrophe that was on their"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "minds. And this is in the mythology. It's all in the mythology. And and"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "mythology has an explanation in concrete experiences, concrete forms in the sky,"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "concrete sequences of events. And all we need to do is pose the question. That's"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "my message in a nutshell. We just pose the question because Velikovski forged a"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "path for us with his claims about the planet Venus. He noticed that different cultures were using different words and"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "different symbols, but they were all within the context of these cultures, symbols and words for comets."}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "Yes. And this is really your work and what you're looking for is to find the consistency between these this global"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "imagery and these global stories. And you're saying science really has been"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "foolish to totally dismiss these these consistencies throughout our history and"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "throughout our religions and cultures. But we can I I think be sympathetic with"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "that mistake. There's a fundamental error of perception. But we can appreciate it in one sense. It's all"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "absurd. I mean just consider the absurdities of"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "the ancient myth. I mean the absurdity of a dragon attacking a village. Follow"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "that absurdity backwards and you get to a much bigger absurdity. That dragon was actually attacking the world. The world"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "is progressively reduced by storytelling that archaic world. So now this is our"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "our village was attacked by this dragon and it carried off the princess. But cosmologically what was the dragon?"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "It was the this huge and terrifying form of the comet Venus. Now I'm"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "oversimplifying everything here because there was a dynamic relationship between uh plasma phenomena centered on Venus"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "and a connection to the planet Mars. This you have to get into the reconstruction of it to see that that is"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "so but Venus was the mother of all comets. Now terrifying in the sky"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "terrifying in everything that the ancient people ever said about comets. It was planted in their minds by the"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "great comet Venus. So a comet appears in view. My god, the world is going to come to an end. Well, well, that's"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "but that's collective memory. It's collective memory. Exactly. So, it's every culture was influenced by the"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "same human experience and Venus was a comet. So, Venus was a comet and the imagery"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "that conditioned all of our doomsday fears about comets can be traced right back to the great comet. And and when"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "they say the comet appears in the sky and the king is going to die, the kingdom is going to fall. I I mean"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "that's the story of the great comet and it was Venus the eye, heart and soul of"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "this stupendous power that Valakovsky identified as as Saturn. So these"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "planets are inseparably connected to each other. You can't take a myth about"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "the warrior hero, identify it with Mars and stop there. No, you have to see the warrior hero was the consort of the"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "goddess who was Venus. The Venus was the the the goddess Venus was originally the"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "eye, heart and soul of a universal sovereign figure, a towering form in the sky identified as the primeval sun"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "ruling before the present sun. Now, this is a global That's right. convergence of myth and the planets"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "cannot be separated from each other. That's the heart of it. You're showing how the cosmos is has been reflected"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "throughout history and there is cross-cultural agreement as you say and that is critical to giving credence to"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "this story again. That's key and the the process of of"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "reasoning from evidence can be spelled out in detail and following no the"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "protocol for drawing reliable conclusions from unreliable witnesses just like a detective would do. You know"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "how a detective would say, well, you know, they're not all saying the same thing, but you know, they all four, all five, all 10 said this. It's"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "very specific. That can't be false. They weren't talking to each other. Now, the early cultures weren't talking to each"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "other either. So, highly concrete points of agreement. Just for example, the the"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "warrior hero descends to the underworld and it's in connection with the formation of a great cosmic mountain or"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "world pillar rising along the world axis. Well, that's so specific."}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "If that doesn't have a reason, a cause, then something just isn't adding up at"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "all. It has to have a cause because the evidence, the stories are there. Yeah. And they couldn't be there by accident."}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "So, I'd like to go into some of these. One of them is, and it's on page 2122 in the book, it's images of plasma"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "discharge as depicted in ancient stone art. Oh, this was it. talk about this"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "probably takes us right into the most important juncture uh in the development of my own research. I had converged with"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "Wall Thornnehill in the late mid to late 90s and uh I was aware of inongruities"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "in rock art many of which did not make sense to me because what I had reconstructed didn't touch them and yet"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "I would find pointers that would say they these are very very these rock art images are very important and for me"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "there was one rock art image in particular and it was called the chain of arrows I mean I called it the chain"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "of arrows and the chain of arrows is a worldwide motif. By the way, it's not just North America, though it's all over"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "North America. But a warrior launches an arrow up into the sky and then he launches another one which fixes itself"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "in the previous one and you get this conic embedded. The petetroglyph from Cayente, Arizona."}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "Well, that's it's getting right to that. It's getting to it. So, there was a chain of arrows theme that I was very"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "interested. This is from all over the world. Oh, it is actually uh all over the world. It has different forms, but the"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "chain of arrows is one form that is quite global. So, it wasn't just something originated in America and"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "spread across North America. Well, it's in South America, too. So, but then if you find it in Africa, which you do, and"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "in the South Pacific, which you do, and then you see, well, the chain of arrows is really not any different than than"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "that world tree with the notches in its trunk and so on. There's there's a whole the flared skirt of the mother goddess"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "and so on. You see the the flared skirt of the mother goddess, one arrow embedded in the other. the same. It's the same underlying"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "experience, different mythic interpretation. So I I focused in on"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "this chain of arrows motif and deduced from hundreds I I mean"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "there's no exaggeration in this. Hundreds of subtle connections between the the chain of arrows and another"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "mythic theme, the ladder of heaven. And then I began I I saw that well they"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "can't be separate. So whatever caused that embedded cone form it had to have"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "divided into a stack of Tauruses. So I I I had this clearly in mind uh almost"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "simultaneous with a discovery that in the story of the chain of arrows the"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "chain of arrows becomes the ladder to a ladder to the sky. It becomes the ladder to sky. And then I began to talk"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "talk about what that means in terms of stack tauruses. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. So"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "there's a connection that holds that brings all of this together and it is the upward winding filament or serpent."}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "The serpent that winds itself up this pole of the kaducius. But a hundred a"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "thousand other images are suggestive of an upward spiraling serpent form. And I"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "I came to the conclusion based on one parallel after another suggesting the"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "connection an upward winding plasma filament"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "divided into a a conical series of cones. They were actually Tauruses. The"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "cones are actually rotating their Tauruses and so on. And then they spread out to become more definitive toidal"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "forms. a stack of Tauruses and what do they represent? uh they in the electrical universe"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "in the electric universe they are the natural toroidal form but I mean who am"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "I to say that this is all explicable by plasma physics but I knew there was a"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "plasma connection and when Wall Thornhill came to Portland ahead of a"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "conference in September in Portland on the electric universe and he was a"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "featured speaker I showed him the chain of arrows imagery yes and he said, \"Dave,"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "that has to be plasma discharge.\" I said, \"Well, what's happening?\" And he said, \"I'll have to look into it.\" Well,"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "that wasn't satisfying. But we had invited another man, probably the most"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "distinguished plasma scientist studying high energy electric discharge in the"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "plasma laboratory from Los Alamos. Anthony Patt invited him to this same"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "conference and it was the most miraculous"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "dramatic turn in my whole life of research. Immediately in the wake of Tony's uh"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "presence at the conference we had a private gathering of speakers."}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "Tony was really really impressed with what he saw at the"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "conference and that emboldened him to stand up. I mean 12 speakers were"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "gathered there to stand up at that meeting go up to this little whiteboard"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "and describe the this enigmatic or really interesting form taken by"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "electric discharge in the plasma laboratory. and he drew out the chain of"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "arrows. Wow. It was I mean I you know just even talking about it it's kind of like a"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "shiver sort of thing because I just I just have this I mean this was 2000 this"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "was almost 15 years ago September 2000 and I mean several people in the the"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "group I had already presented the chain of arrows theme to and we were looking at at each other. It"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "was just such a an incredible moment. And I knew it wasn't just that that my"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "life had taken a turn there. I knew that this fellow Tony Pat would never be able"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "to walk away from this. When I would say simply, Tony, you just drew the chain of"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "arrows. So, okay. Go ahead. Yes. Okay. It it does have it has more to it."}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "Tony said, \"Well, how did that form?\" And I described upward spiraling filament dividing into this this chain"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "of arrows form that then becomes depending on your point of view. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That that emerges as a stack"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "of Tauruses that was called the ladder of heaven. And he said"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "that is the evolutionary sequence of the parat and stability. His colleagues had"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "named it after him. Amazing. And so he uh I mean he was"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "never the same after that. And I mean he was really never the same. He gets back to Los Alamos. He emails me. He says, \"I"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "have to see the rock art.\" And I have thousands of rock art images that would"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "be useful in substantiating this. But I actually just sent him one. And it is the Cayenta pictoraph. Yes."}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "And it is the stack of Tauruses, but the edges are folded up and it has this eye mask form below. I mean these we're"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "going to talk about it captures the entire sequence so beautifully the the"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "completeness of this form so beautifully I just sent him that I just had this underlying confidence he didn't need to"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "see more and when I sent that to him as he described it his world ended"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "he knew I mean first he was a little fearful that somebody had come in and you know taken something out of his"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "computer and got the but he got the picture. It's a kind it's an authentic pictoraph"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "and he changed his life on the spot there. He he he mobilized uh"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "archaeologists and rock art experts and he began logging rock art around the"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "world. And what he did was uh identify specific forms in specific regions"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "carved on stone uh with a clear indication of the field of view to the"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "sky and so on. And so he was able to enter the data into the Roadrunner"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "computer at Los Alamos. is the most powerful in the world and the computer"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "was able to diagnose what was seen from different portions of uh the earth"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "different places on earth. This is a subject that goes very deep, very vast out into the cosmology itself."}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "And you say it's more of an intuitive investigation than an academic or intellectual investigation. Set that up"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "for us. What did you mean by that? Well, what I was attempting to do was uh create a a visual introduction into a"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "topic that uh looks at Saturn worship as uh basically behind the origin of a"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "malevolent culture that exists uh in the world today. Um, it was designed to be"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "very very low level to give people a basic broad stroke uh a brushstroke uh"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "picture of how Saturn uh theory works and linking that into a lot of the um you know the standard sort"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "of uh conspiracy as some people call it ideas out there. I particularly wanted"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "to link uh Saturn theory uh this new cosmology to the um basically the"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "central banking model uh of international finance as in in terms of"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "what we find in Saturn theory uh the um archetypes the symbols that have come"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "down through mythology uh linked back to that cosmology are heavily influencing a"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "lot of what we see uh in the corporate models the The central banking model is the debt based finance system."}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "Start explaining to us what Saturn once was to the earth in relationship to it"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "and then take your time explaining under its influence under even the light factors what life on earth was like what"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "could develop under that what our plant life was like all of it. You have the stage. Well, um, in Saturn"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "Death Cult website, the ebook I put out, as I said, it was, uh, very visual because what you're doing is you're"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "wrenching people out of a what seems to be almost an accepted idea of how our solar system formed."}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "Mhm. All right. And, um, that's the uniformitarian idea that things have"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "really changed slowly but surely over a 4 billion year period. Uh what Saturn"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "theory does is it turns that uh mainstream view on its head and it"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "basically says that the current solar system is essentially a um a system that"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "is born of captured planets around the the around the sun. Saturn being the"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "most recent captured uh celestial body uh in you into orbit around the sun. So"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "you have a fruit salad uh um sort of idea of the solar system uh where"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "objects are arriving formed they catastrophically rearrange uh into what"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "we see today. And this is so at odds with uniformitarian science with the uh"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "discretion model that uh for many people it's it's it's beyond comprehension. How"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "can you be how can that be so wrong in mainstream science? Um, and you know, we"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "we're presenting this what seems to be absurd idea of uh, you know, uh, planets"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "that supposedly formed here over billions of years being captured fairly recently."}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "The scary thing about the uh, uh, topic is that when we say recently, we say"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "within human memory. In other words, this catastrophic rearrangement of the planets, this capture particularly of"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "Saturn took place within recorded human history. And that is what mythology uh"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "represents. And in Saturn theory, we claim that mythology can be interpreted"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "uh basically as a um basically as a a record of actual"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "celestial events uh witnessed rather than the mad house of imaginative"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "thinking that modern scholarship. So that would be that would make sense as you're seeing repeated themes around the"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "planet through various Aboriginal peoples and beyond. So it's consistent of mythology. Yes."}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "All right. Is the key to this. Yes. Um you have a you have a problem here uh"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "with the mainstream idea. They refused to believe the idea that there was a"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "worldwide civilization in the past uh that possibly spread similar types of uh"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "symbols, ideas, archetypes through mythology in various very ancient iterations of"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "ourselves where we had high intelligence, ability to travel and so forth. Let's talk about even from a"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "mythological point of view and and from other esoteric points of view. There was a time when this planet was not bathed"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "in the amount of light it's in now. Correct. uh as far as we understand and certainly from the mythological record"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "um there's a universal understanding of a primordial darkness a time indeterminate time into the past"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "it shattered when Saturn what in whatever culture identify Saturn bursts"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "into light but prior to that time um to use something that a lot of people are very"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "familiar with the biblical reference you know uh you know the spirit of Lord Hover on on the celestial you know"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "ocean, so to speak, and so on in darkness, uh, before the let there be light moment. That's what it's"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "described. A lot of cultures talk of this. And what you have is if you've got a a"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "terrestrial planet, uh, that is a satellite of a subround dwarf. In the"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "electric universe model, what happens is that the um electrical properties of the"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "subround dwarf create this bubble that uh is uh encases the core of the"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "subround dwarf. But between the bubble and the core uh the skin of the bubble"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "if you could imagine it that all right there's a space an area there where terrestrial planets can actually uh"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "exist. If we take Jupiter as a as a as a former possible subbrand dwarf star or"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "or or something that has a size most most subround dwarf stars are about the size of Jupiter. It's down to their mass rather than"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "their volume that differentiates them. But if you look at the at the four terrestrial moons of Jupiter, they all"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "exist inside this radiation um uh you know basically a globe that's exists"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "around around Jupiter. That is what we call a plasmosphere in in the electric universe. All right. We know it exists"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "in in um in with Jupiter. We know it has a profound uh influence on Jupiter's"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "moons and so on. And what we're saying is that with subround dwarfs, the same thing will happen. And when you view them from"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "outside, you see the bubble. Um because that plasma sheath as it's called in in"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "the electric universe model all right is formed as a protective layer electrical"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "layer against the greater galact galactic electrical field. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "What that does is it creates an opaque layer. So you can't see in. You should"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "see what seems like a solid cloudy body. But anything trapped between that that"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "bubble and the core or whatever cannot see out. No light gets into it. No light"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "uh passes through at that particular time. There is however a dull glow."}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "There is enough uh light frequencies uh given off by such an object that if you"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "existed in there, not only would you sense a dull glow, but it would be a"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "uniform um dispersion 24/7. Yeah. Except there is no 24/7."}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "That's right. And of course what this does if if you can imagine somebody uh you know an astronaut landed on on such"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "a a satellite or as we're postulating uh ancient humans um existing in this environment"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "when earth was trapped in that uh you have nothing to give you time."}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "There is nothing to to uh uh allow you to calculate time in any way whatsoever."}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "Certainly not uh beyond anything that is local. Absolutely. Exactly. Well, and I mean when I was"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "reading through this part, my of course my first question was yes, but you don't have photosynthesis. You don't have"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "enough light for that. So, how do you even have plant life on the planet to sustain these animals in these early"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "humans? So, please Well, what um the photosynthesis synthesis thing has been a contention uh"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "for a lot of people who who are critics of this um uh particular uh you know, theory. Uh what we're saying is that um"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "the subround dwarf, we now know subround dwarfs give off uh certain light"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "frequencies that do include infrared, do include ultraviolet. All right? But basically their light frequency is the"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "reddish to blue um sort of um side things. If you're on"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "a terrestrial body that has a magnetosphere, that's what our earth has. It sort of protects us from radiation. that magnetosphere and also"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "its atmosphere will produce basically a purplish hue."}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "All right? And it's a dull glow uh that that is there. There is enough of that radiation coming uh from a subround"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "dwarf uh to to provide that kind of illumination. So you have more reddish types of plant life."}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "Yes. Because when it comes to uh plants, what we know about plants is that uh"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "they have a a dormant gene uh called retinol in them. And retinol is a the um"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "uh it's the part of the plant uh that uh"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "helps that loves to suck in um infrared"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "to uh blue light spectrums and so on like that. It's dormant at the moment because when the plant uh the"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "chlorophyll that we see in it now, right, is really a a reflective device to regulate the amount of ultraviolet"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "light that uh hits the plant. If you're not in a high ultraviolet light environment, all right, you"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "actually want to attract all right ultra uh infrared because it's the infrared medium and so on that"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "really is what the plant craves. That's why all our stuff is green today. All right. It's it's it's actually saying"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "too much ultraviolet. All right. It's actually an indication that"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "uh uh you know in in terms of the evolutionary model uh it's an indication that uh plants weren't originally"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "designed uh for this that they've had to go into the chlorophyll"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "effect. Yeah. Yeah. It's an adaptation. It's a later adaptation because retinol is by far the older dor dormant gene."}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "Mhm. And this this dormcancy if and we we we can see this because if I can give"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "somebody an illustration if you go to a certain depth in the oceans I was just thinking the same way"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "you are starting to get the kind of environment that we're talking about on a terrestrial body track"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "brownish and reddish plant life in the ocean. Yes. All that seaweed and so on like that. Okay."}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "As you get closer up you get your green seaweeds as you get closer to the um surface. Yes. This um this shows uh how plants uh"}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "behave and you are in that twilight when you're underwater. Well, until you go down far enough, you're in somebody really wanted to go and"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "experience what it might have been like to to get an idea of the the thing, you know, dive down into those oceans."}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "That was what was striking me as I was looking at these pictures and so forth. So, now let because we've got so much"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "ground to cover, I just wanted to get into that a bit about what life was like at that time perhaps. And so now we"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "start moving forward. What happened to Saturn? Why was it so so to speak banished and and the sun is now the"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "predominant theme and let's talk about the silver age, the golden age and just"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "lead us into the body of the subject we'll be discussing. Well, when you're on a planet in"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "relation to a plan uh to a star like uh Saturn at the time, the first big noticeable thing of of there is you have"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "a different gravity according to the electrical universe model. Okay. Um, a co-author of mine on a late recent book"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "that I've done uh made his name in in basically showing that uh the massive"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "fauna that we've seen in the past from mammoths going back to the dinosaurs, this sort of thing couldn't have existed"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "in the gravity uh that we have today. Uh they simply would collapse. Well, it's interesting because there are giants"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "that are found too that are have been found with bodies perhaps between 25 and"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "35 feet tall with much more porous bone density. I've even held one of the"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "occipital bones of one of these. It's much more porous than ours. It's a big problem particularly for the"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "uh dinosaur studies because they they find them even bigger and bigger and bigger. It's just"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "giant things that were flying at the time. We know that when when a blue whale beaches itself, it collapses under"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "its own, you know, its own weight. We know that they had 10 million years ago,"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "science tells us that they had giant um uh boa like snakes. They call them titanic boas, right?"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "they had to have been aquatic because they would have just collapsed under their own uh weight unless there were a difference in the"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "external ambient environment or gravity. And what we're saying is that the the electrostatic relationship between a"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "subbrand dwarf and a terrestrial planet like Earth will actually change the gravity. You'll"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "get a different gravity. All right. Now, to answer your question, when you in in a system like this, you have no idea"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "what's out there. You only have this dull thing that doesn't move. um at the top because either you're in a"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "phase lock um uh situation with the star like the moon is with the earth"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "or you're in what we propagate which is a axial aligned um uh polar"}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "configuration. But in any case, this is a very static reality. Yeah. Yeah. You know, there's just"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "nothing there to to grasp on. Everything is nebulous and and and changing all the"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:18", "text": "time. There's there's no continuity. There's no regulation. So now let's talk about what happens to"}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "Saturn and when the sun well takes that plasma bubble that we're talking about. Okay, the sun has one. It's"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "called the heliosphere and it's massive in comparison to sub brown dwarfs."}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "When you get these two bubbles that start to drift towards each other, all right, you're essentially"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "uh going to get an electrical reaction because they're electrically driven according to the electric universe"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "model. All right. The the uh the the problem here for Saturn is that it"}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "is positively charged to Earth in the electric sense, but it's negatively"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "charged to the sun. All right? The sun is a lot more powerful. And when its"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:08", "text": "electrical field, cuz that's all the plasma sheath actually is, all right, touches with the electrical field of a"}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "larger object, the sun in this case, you get a short circuiting. Mhm. All right. Now,"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:21", "text": "what that that stuff that we were talking about before, plasma, all right, it exists in currents between celestial"}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "bodies. They're called Birkeland currents. They were discovered over 100 years ago. Um, now by, you know,"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "and you illustrate this in the book as well and the way ancients may have depicted it, what they were actually trying to show us absolutely about the"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "cosmology of the day. It's brilliant. you know, to jump to that, you know, Jacob's ladder, the um primordial tree"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "of life, the uh you know, the these these um uh you know, chains of spears that go up"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "into the heaven, you know, the stairway to heaven. uh all these archetypes are linked to this uh grand cosmic current"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "that when Saturn is excited electrically will go from virtually invisible all"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "right which we call um dark mode Mhm. it'll go into glow mode and when it"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "really gets hit by a powerful electrical source like the heliosphere like the heliosphere it'll go into arc"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "mode. Mhm. Now, that's quite an amazing thing to see. Well, and you show that you have this"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "depiction of the people of the day. What, you know, blinded by the light."}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "Well, that's the thing is is is what we're talking about here is that in coming into contact with the heliosphere"}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "of um of uh of of the sun. All right. Saturn virtually goes nova."}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:41", "text": "Now, tying it back to your mythology, this is the let there be light moment. Yes. That most cultures actually talk about."}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:46", "text": "All right. It's a sudden bursting forth of Saturn's power because from the"}, {"start": "00:38:46", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "Earth's perspective, they don't know it's the sun doing this. All right. All that happens to them is"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "that they suddenly this dull object just bursts forth"}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "in absolute brilliant light and uh proceeds to uh bathe in a radiance that"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "has never been seen before. I can't imagine that people could have even survived it. Survived it. catastrophic beyond beyond"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:17", "text": "belief and animals. Yes. And yet it seems to have triggered"}, {"start": "00:39:17", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "within humans um a sudden realization. Hey, I can see"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "things a little bit differently now. And it seems like we've only scratched the surface, but again, there's a"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:34", "text": "resource. Thank you so much for your time, Troy. Oh, look. Thank you. Thanks so much. Again, you can go to Troy's website,"}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "saturndeeathcult.com, and it perfectly lays this story out well illustrated and well worth the"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "time. Until next time, thank you for joining us here at Guy TV in London."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Hello, my name is Greg Braden. I'd like"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "to welcome you to today's very special"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "presentation of the divine matrix,"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "bridging time, space, miracles, and"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "belief. In our last episode, we"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "discovered that we are biologically"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "wired to hack the divine matrix and"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "seemingly superhuman ways. Well, in this"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "episode, we're going to go one step"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "further. will uncover the prayer code,"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "the formula for an empowered form of"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "prayer that is actually mirrored in the"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "most sophisticated computer systems"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "known to exist in the world today."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "So, what I'd like to do is share an"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "example. This is a story. It's a true"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "story that happened to me when I left"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "the corporations in the early 1990s and"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "I moved uh to a piece of land in the"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "high desert of northern New Mexico. And"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "those of you that live in that part of"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "the world, you may remember the 1990s"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "was one of the worst droughts in"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "recorded history. It was terrible."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "Cattle were dying, crops were dying, uh"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "people were selling their farms because"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "they could no longer support themselves"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "on the land. And it was during this time"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "that a native friend of mine called me"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "one morning. Uh and to honor his"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "privacy, I'm going to call him David,"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "even though David is is not really his"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "name. But David called me one morning"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "and he asked me, he said, 'Greg, would"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "you like to meet me and accompany me to"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "a place that is so old no one even knows"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "who built this place? It was built by"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "the hands of our ancestors. It is a"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "wheel. It is a circle of stone where we"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "offer our prayers because in this place,"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "the skin between the worlds is very"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "thin. I love that terminology. So he"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "said, \"Would you like to join me to"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "offer a prayer of rain?\" And I didn't"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "have to think twice. I said, \"You bet.\""}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "And I met David and we hiked into this"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "place. I wasn't prepared for what I saw."}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "As as an Anglo, as a westerner, I"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "expected to see some chanting, some kind"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "of ceremony, uh maybe some dancing. And"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "what I saw was David. He sat in the"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "ground. He took off his old work boots."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "He unlaced them and put them outside the"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "circle. He stepped into the circle with"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "his his naked feet on the ground."}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "He closed his eyes. He honored all of"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "his ancestors. He honored the"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "directions. all six of them. And then he"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "closed his eyes with his hands in a"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "prayer mudra over his heart just for a"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "few seconds. This is outside of the town"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "of Taos, New Mexico. It's the nearest"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "city of any size. And he looked at me."}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "He opened his eyes and he looked and he"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "said, um, he said, \"I'm hungry. You want"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "to get a bite to eat?\" And he was inside"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "the circle. And I said, \"Well, yes.\" I"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "said, \"But I thought you were going to"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "pray for rain.\" And he looked at me and"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "what he said has stayed with me so"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "powerfully for so long and it's helped"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "so many people when they think about how"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "this prayer works. He looked at me he"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "said no. He said if I prayed for rain"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "could never happen. He said because the"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "moment I pray for rain I have just told"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "the universe that rain does not exist"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "here. the moment I pray for it to"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "happen, I'm acknowledging that it's not"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "here now.\" And I said, \"Well, if you"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "didn't pray for rain just now,\" I said,"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "\"When you close your eyes, what you what"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "did you just do?\" And he said, \"When I"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "closed my eyes,\" he said, \"I felt the"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "feeling of what it feels like when it"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "rains in my PBlo village.\" He said, \"I"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "felt the feeling of what it feels like"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "to stand with my naked feet in the mud"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "and the mud is there because there's"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "been so much rain.\" said, \"I smelled the"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "smells of what the rain smells like when"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "it rolls off the earth and walls from"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "our pueblo and I felt what it would feel"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "like to walk through the corn that's"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "this high against my naked chest and"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "it's this high because there's been so"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "much rain to grow the corn and then I"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "give thanks of gratitude and"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "appreciation for the rain that has"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "already happened.\" He's brought together"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "so many of the concepts. He's"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "acknowledging that there's a field out"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "there. number one that he's"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "communicating with that field. He's"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "acknowledging that the feeling is the"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "language that the field recognizes. It's"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "not so much about the words. The words"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "can be spoken. However, if the words are"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "spoken, the goal is to create the"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "feeling. All right? And he's"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "acknowledging that he has the potential"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "as a man, a human in the presence of"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "this field to reach inside of the field"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "into the realm of all things that are"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "possible and isolate the possibility of"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "his choice and collapse that potential"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "into something real in our world. And"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "he's doing it through a very"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "sophisticated internal technology that"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "we call the lost mode of prayer. It is a"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "feelingbased prayer. the key feeling as"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "if the prayer is already answered. David"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "and I went into TA, New Mexico, we had"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "lunch about an hour south of where this"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "prayer was was uh offered. By the time I"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "got back onto my land, something began"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "to happen that we hadn't seen in a long"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "time. Big black clouds came in over the"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "Sangerto Mountains and it started to"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "rain and it rained and it rained and"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "rained and rained. It rained all that"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "night. It rained the next morning. It"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "rained the next afternoon. It rained and"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "rained. It rained so much the ground was"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "so dry it couldn't absorb the rain and"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "everything began to flood. Fields were"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "flooded. Cattle were stranded. Roads"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "were washed out. And I called my friend"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "on the phone. I'm I'm just going to"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "share this with you. I called my friend"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "on the phone and I said, \"David, man,"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "this is a mess.\" I said, \"What is"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "happening?\" And he was quiet just for a"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "moment. And he said, \"Greg, that's the"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "part of the prayer our ancestors could"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "never figure out.\" He said, \"They could"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "tell it to rain, but they couldn't tell"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "it how much to rain. So, I cannot prove"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "to you scientifically that David's"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "prayer had anything to do with the rain"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "that came in that afternoon. I cannot"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "prove that to you as a scientist. As a"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "scientist, what I have to say is there's"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "a high correlation between the rain that"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "appeared that hadn't been seen in a long"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "time and what David had just done hours"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "earlier. When we talk about these"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "things, some of these are anecdotal"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "stories, but they're illustrating from"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "an indigenous perspective a very"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "powerful concept. Look at what David"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "did. He incorporated all of his senses."}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "He didn't ask for something to happen."}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "He felt that it had already happened. He"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "smelled what it smells like when it"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "happens. He heard the sounds of the"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "rain. I didn't even tell you about that"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "part, but he heard the sounds of the"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "rain, and he felt as if that rain is"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "already there. I'm going to invite you"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "to think about this as we go into this"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "this modality of prayer that I'm going"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "to share with you. So, the principles"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "that I'm sharing in this mode are very"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "simple. They're also very ancient. and"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "everything I'm saying to you, we see the"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "instructions for this kind of prayer,"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "for this code that allows us to speak"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "directly to the matrix. We see these"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "principles uh recorded in some of our"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "most ancient, cherished spiritual"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "traditions, and I'm talking about lost"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "biblical books that I described earlier"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "in this program. These are the books"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "that were discovered in the mid 20th"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "century as the Nag Hamadi Library in"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "Egypt. Remember the the Dead Sea Scrolls"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "are the oldest records of the Old"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "Testament. The Nagamadi library are the"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "oldest records of the New Testament."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "Both of them found mid 20th century, the"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "1940s."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "And in that Nagamadi library, the 43"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "plus books that were completely removed"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "from the biblical cannon in the 4th"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "century by the emperor Constantine were"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "intact in the Nagamadi library,"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "including the Gospel of Thomas that"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "we've spoken about earlier. Thomas the"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "scribe that followed the master Jesus"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "the teacher not a religious man from"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "this perspective but he followed the"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "teacher and he recorded the words the"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "exact words of the teacher and this is"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "important because there is a place in"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "the gospel of Thomas where his students"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "asked the teacher how to communicate"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "with the field they didn't use those"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "terms they asked how to communicate with"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "God and it's in the gospel of Thomas"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "that we find the instruction"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "instructions for the fifth mode, the"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "lost mode of prayer. So, it's in the"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "Gospel of Thomas that we actually find"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "the instructions"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "for this fifth or this lost mode of"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "prayers as I mentioned. So, let me first"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "read to you the translation in the"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "authorized version of the King James"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "Bible as we see it today. If you'd like"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "to see this for yourself, it's in King"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "James version of the book of John 16-23"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "is where you would find this. I know"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "you've heard this before. Or how many of"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "you have heard uh ask and you shall"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "receive. That's where this comes from."}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "Let me read you the translation. The"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "translation goes like this. Whatsoever"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "ye ask the father in my name, he will"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "give it to you. Ask and ye shall receive"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "that your joy may be full. Okay? And"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "that's the end of the translation. I"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "don't know about you, when I was a kid,"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "I would ask and ask and ask and not much"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "would happen. And I became very"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "frustrated. Many people do. And we feel"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "powerless. we feel that our prayers"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "really aren't making any any difference"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "because we're not seeing uh any way to"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "reinforce"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "that our prayers have actually done"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "something. They've made a difference."}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "We're going to go back into the original"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "Aramaic translation uh and Greek and"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "Aramaic both, but this is going to be"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "from the original Aramaic. In the Gospel"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "of Thomas, you see Greek and Aramaic is"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "why I'm clarifying this. And I want to"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "read you and it's very close, but"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "there's a powerful and subtle difference"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "that was left out in the translation."}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "And it may very well be because the"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "translators did not understand what you"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "and I are exploring right now. Because"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "they didn't understand it, they simply"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "streamlined the languaging. So in the"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "translated version, uh, and if you'd"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "like to see this for yourself, it comes"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "from Neil Douglas Cloat is the the name"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "of the translator. There's a little book"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "called Prayers of the Cosmos. It is a"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "beautiful, beautiful book where he"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "re-ransates so many of of the very"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "powerful prayers. And this is one of"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "them. Now, listen to the difference. In"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "the original text, it begins a very"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "similar way. Quote, \"All things that you"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "ask straightly directly from inside my"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "name, you'll be given.\" Okay. Now, here"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "comes the translation that was in error."}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "This is the original. Ask without hidden"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "motive and be surrounded by your answer."}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "Be enveloped by what you desire that"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "your gladness be full. That is a single"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "very powerful statement. I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "break this down. Ask without hidden"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "motive. That is inviting you to ask"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "without attachment to the outcome. It's"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "actually a very Buddhist concept. Ask"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "without attachment to the rightness, the"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "wrongness, the goodness, the badness, or"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "the joy or the disappointment is as to"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "whether or not your prayer is answered"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "without attachment to the outcome. Okay."}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "be be surrounded by your answer. Be"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "enveloped by what you desire. The only"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "way to be is if those things are already"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "present. Your prayer is already"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "answered. You're coming from the place"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "that the prayer has already been"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "answered. So the key to what we're"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "saying here, feel the feeling. Feel as"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "if the prayer is already answered. with"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "as many senses as you can. Smell, touch,"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "taste, hearing. Feel as if your body is"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "already healed. Feel as if your perfect"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "relationship is already present. Feel as"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "if your abundance is already present."}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "Invoke all of those senses."}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "Earlier in this series, I suggested a"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "new model for creation and the way that"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "it works and a new philosophy that says"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "that our creation that consciousness is"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "constantly informing us of ourselves"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "through our creations. the things that"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "we create, art, music, books, the things"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "that we create that we believe are"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "entertainment or creative expression. In"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "addition to those things that they are"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "actually us informing us of ourselves,"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "informing us of our relationship to the"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "field so that we can remind ourselves of"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "this very powerful internal technology."}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "Prayer is a perfect example of what I'm"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "talking about here. Now, I'm going to do"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "this in a very condensed format to give"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "you the sense for what I'm saying and"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "then you can take this idea and you can"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "apply it in your own prayers. I'm going"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "to give you a template to do just that."}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "I worked in the corporations and as a"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "scientist, as a senior computer systems"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "designer during the cold war years, I"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "understand computer systems really well."}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "And one of the things that amazed me is"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "no matter how complex or how simple they"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "are, whether we're writing 3 million"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "lines of code, which happens with some"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "of the systems that are being used uh in"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "the in the research industry, or or just"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "a couple of lines of code, the programs"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "will always follow the same template."}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "Here's the template. There is always an"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "introduction that tells the program what"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "is about to happen. They're called"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "declaration statements. Then following"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "the declaration there is the work the"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "body of the program that's actually"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "doing the calculations and then there is"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "a close something to bring the program"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "to closure. All right that is the way"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "the most sophisticated computer systems"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "in our world work today. If we are"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "building in our world, if consciousness"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "is informing us in our world something"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "we know and need to know about"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "ourselves, then the question is, is it"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "possible that those most sophisticated"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "computers can be telling us something"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "about the way we communicate with the"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "matrix? The answer is yes. The template"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "that allows the most sophisticated"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "computers and the way to work, the way"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "it works, is precisely the template that"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "allows your prayers to work. the way"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "they work. And your prayers, when you"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "build your prayers, I'm going to invite"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "you to do precisely this. The first"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "statement of your prayer, a declaration"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "statement. Tell the field, tell the"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "matrix, tell consciousness, tell God"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "what it is that you're about to do in a"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "single phrase or a brief sentence. Be be"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "concise. You can simply say, \"This is a"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "prayer of healing for my body or a"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "prayer of healing uh regarding my loved"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "ones.\" And then in the code, what is it"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "that you want to happen? But come from"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "the place that it's already happened."}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "Give thanks for what has already already"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "occurred. I give thanks for the"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "perfection of my body, for the healing"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "of my body, for the healing of my loved"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "ones, for the healing of my"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "relationship. All right? This is the the"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "body of the code. The closure so"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "beautiful and so powerful. In the"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "closure, we're telling the field that"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "it's already done. And for the closure,"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "the texts invite us to use the original"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "Aramaic. The original Aramaic. There's"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "something about these words. Let me"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "share them with you. The words laalam."}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "Amen. Amen. Laalam. Amen. Amen. At the"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "end of your prayer, what does that mean?"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "It means I seal this prayer in trust and"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "faith and truth. Amen."}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "I can't think of a more powerful, more"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "sophisticated,"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "more beautiful technology that has been"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "left to us than our ability to"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "communicate with this field in a"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "meaningful way. And I've just shared"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "with you one template. There may be"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "others. This is a very powerful template"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "that was left to us 2500 years ago that"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "allows us to do just that."}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "The bottom line of everything I'm saying"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "to you is through the fifth mode of"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "prayer, our feelingbased prayer, we are"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "given the ability to communicate"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "directly with the possibilities exist in"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "the universal field in this divine"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "matrix and to do so in a language that"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "the matrix recognizes."}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "Our most ancient and cherished spiritual"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "traditions have preserved the knowledge"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "and the technique to interact with the"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "divine matrix and for us to rewrite our"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "personal as well as the global reality"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "code. Well, in the next episode, we'll"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "discover why our relationship with this"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "matrix literally holds the key to the"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "crises that are destroying our families"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "and our communities, polarizing our"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "societies and our nations today. So, I"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "want to thank you for joining me for"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "this very special presentation and be"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "sure to tune in for our next allnew"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "episode of the divine matrix, bridging"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "time, space, miracles, and belief."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:01", "text": "The scientists at the institute"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "discovered a place where time appears to"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "be meaningless and is essentially"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "non-existent. They found a place where"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "essentially time doesn't exist. This"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "mysterious realm is known as plank time"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "and it is described as a scale of events"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "that's very very small. It measures I'll"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "just give you the the measurement 10 to"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "the minus 43 seconds."}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "So if something is happening and the"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "time between the beginning of that"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "something and the end of that something"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "falls within this realm of 10 to the"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "minus 43 seconds. Just to give you an"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "idea of what this is that is a minus 10"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "followed by 43 zeros. If something is"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "happening on that scale this quantum"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "scale for all intents and all purposes"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "time does not exist. Now this is an"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "important discovery because it suggests"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "that time may not be what we think it is"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "at all. It may not be as universal as we"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "have thought in the past. And there are"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "a number of physicists now that are on"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "board with this thinking. The"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "theoretical physicist Italian physicist"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "Carlo Ralli he agrees and I want to"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "share with you a quote. He said it may"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "be that the best way to think about"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "quantum reality is to give up the notion"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "of time. He said the fundamental"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "description of the universe must be"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "timeless. That's the end of the quote."}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "Wow. That is a very powerful statement."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "That again is like an earthquake"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "reverberating through the world of"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "physics who has struggled with this"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "curious factor of time from the time"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "that physics began. Well, I want to"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "share there's another reason that the"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "discovery of this place where time"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "doesn't exist as as we know it. There's"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "another reason this is important because"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "the quantum realm where time appears to"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "be meaningless. You're going to love"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "this. It is precisely the place where"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "human emotion begins. It's the place"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "where human emotion creates the effects"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "that appear to be spontaneous, like"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "instantaneous healings, for example,"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "that appear to be miracles that we can't"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "explain, or or the intuition between a"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "mother and her son in a battlefield"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "halfway around the world that we talked"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "about in a previous episode. Those"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "things are happening not in the everyday"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "world. They're happening in the quantum"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "world. And this is the place where the"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "ideas of time appear to break down."}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "Well, in season 2 of Missing Links, we"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "explored a growing body of scientific"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "evidence that suggests that we are"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "living in what is called a simulation"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "that is happening inside of a virtual"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "reality. If you haven't seen that"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "season, I'm going to invite you to check"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "it out because it ties in beautifully to"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "everything we're saying right now about"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "time. And I'm going to take it one step"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "further with something that I did not"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "share because the information was"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "available in season two."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "The idea, this idea that that time is"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "unfolding within this simulation and the"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "evidence that supports it has now opened"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "the door to a new way of thinking about"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "the mysteries of the universe itself."}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "What is prayer? What is life? What is"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "death? Who is God? All of those take on"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "a new meaning when we think about a"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "simulation in a virtual reality. And the"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "idea of time takes on a whole new"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "meaning from the perspective of"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "simulation theory. The mystery of time"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "actually becomes easier to explain in"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "the traditional sense. And in doing so,"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "it also becomes even more mysterious."}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "And here here's what I mean. In"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "simulation theory, time is thought of as"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "a program."}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "a program that is running under the"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "operating system that we would call the"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "divine matrix. I'm going to invite you"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "to think about that just for a moment."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "Think about what you know about"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "computers right now. Every computer has"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "an operating system. The Apple computers"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "have the Apple operating system. The IBM"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "computers have theirs."}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "The operating system is the the big"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "system that allows all of your other"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "programs to run under those systems. So"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "all the applications that we're running,"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "all of your Facebook and YouTube and uh"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "you know the the PowerPoint and Word and"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "all of the things that we run, they're"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "all running within this operating system"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "depending on what kind of a computer we"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "have. So we can think of the divine"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "matrix, this quantum field of energy,"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "this Higs field that we talked about"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "earlier in this in this series. That's"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "the operating system. Now scientists are"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "considering time"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "as a program, a program that has been"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "designed a piece of software, very high"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "level, very sophisticated software. Time"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "is a program running underneath that"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "operating system. And you and I are"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "living within that program. It's this"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "program, they say that is driving our"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "experience forward. We talk about the"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "forward arrow of time. Time always seems"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "to be moving in one direction. However,"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "the mystery and Einstein talked about"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "this is there's nothing that prevents"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "time from moving in reverse. I'm going"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "to talk about that in just a minute. So,"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "I'm just doing acknowledge right now. I"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "know these are huge concepts uh and I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "covering them quickly in a relatively"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "short period of time. But I I wanted to"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "introduce these concepts so that you"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "have the opportunity to know that this"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "idea of time and what we think about as"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "time, it's changing. It's not set in"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "stone. And the new discoveries such as"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "the possibility of us living in a"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "simulated reality, they have helped to"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "unstuck us. All right? They are taking"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "us out of the rut of the old ways of"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "thinking and introducing new ways and"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "new possibilities that are suddenly"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "opening myriad doors to new"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "understandings. And this for me is one"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "of the most one of the most exciting"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "thinking of time as a program."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "So I wanted to introduce these ideas and"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "these concepts here in this episode so"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "that we can tie into it later in this"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "series. So interestingly the"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "characteristics of time and the way it"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "flows they all support this idea. Time"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "think about this. Time has a beginning."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "Time has an end. Time unfolds as events"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "that follow repeating patterns. These"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "are all the kinds of things you would"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "expect to see happening in a program."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "The patterns of time repeat on different"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "scales just as they would in the"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "program. They reoccur as cycles just as"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "they would in the program. We can move"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "forward and we can move backward in the"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "time program by shifting our focus."}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "Meditative techniques help us to do"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "precisely that. So, I'm going to share"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "this new model, a new way of thinking"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "about time that may help to give you a"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "visual image of how it's possible, why"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "it's possible for you to see the future"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "before it actually happens. And I"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "believe that will illustrate this idea"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "of time as a program."}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "So a recent series of experiments from"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "seven independent laboratories indicate"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "that the human body apparently can"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "detect time"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "and events that have happened before"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "they occur randomly delivered stimulus"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "from the future. Now the phenomena we"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "would call this pre-scentient as in"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "feeling in the future. In the paper that"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "was released they've got a new term for"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "this. It is called PAA and PAA stands"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "for predictive anticipatory activity. So"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "let me share with you how it works."}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "I'm going to invite you to visualize in"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "your mind or maybe you can see this on"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "the screen. If you can think of time as"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "a flow just like the flow of a river. So"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "think of time like the flow of a river"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "and the river is moving in one"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "direction. So in this case, I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "say it's moving from the left to the"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "right. All right? Because we know that"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "time follows what we call the arrow of"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "time. All right? As that river is"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "flowing, if we were to put a post in the"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "center of the river, that post would"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "represent a significant emotional event"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "that will happen in our lives in the"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "future. It could be a marriage. It could"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "be a divorce. It could be a loss of a"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "loved one. It could be uh an ecstatic"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "joyous experience. The key here is that"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "it is emotionally significant for us. So"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "if you think of the post in the river"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "representing an emotionally significant"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "experience. Now you know that if the"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "river is flowing"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "and when the the flow hits that post, it"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "will create ripples around the post. And"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "here's where this gets really"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "interesting. Some of those ripples"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "actually will occur upstream before the"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "post is reached by the water."}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "Okay? So you have the post, the water is"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "flowing, creating the ripples, but the"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "ripples don't stop at the post. Some of"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "those ripples actually preede the posts."}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "Scientists believe this is the way the"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "program of time works. Emotionally"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "significant events in our lives are like"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "the posts in that river. They create"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "ripples that move backward in spaceime"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "and precede the event before it ever"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "even happens. Sometimes by moments,"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "sometimes by days, sometimes by weeks."}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "Now, where this gets especially"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "interesting is, as you've seen in"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "previous episodes, in Missing Links, the"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "human body, in 1991, science discovered"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "40,000 specialized cells in the human"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "heart that are called sensory neurites."}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "The the the term says it all. They're"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "essentially brain-like cells, but"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "they're not in the brain. They're in the"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "heart. These sensory neurites have the"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "sensitivity to pick up information from"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "the field. And it is now believed that"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "it is in our heart, those sensory"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "neurites that are picking up the ripples"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "of the events, significant events in"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "your life and my life, globally,"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "locally. And if we have the sensitivity"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "to acknowledge and the willingness to"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "acknowledge what it is our heart is"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "saying to us, it's not surprising that"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "we can often pick up these ripples and"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "have a feeling about the events before"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "the events ever happened. We saw this on"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "a mass scale for September 11th, 2001."}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "There are countless reports of people"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "that changed their plans, didn't go to"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "work, changed airplane flights just"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "because they had a feeling that it"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "wasn't the best thing to do. They had a"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "sense that something was up. Something"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "was was going to happen. And I'll talk"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "about this in in a later episode. So, I"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "wanted to share this with you with these"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "ideas in mind. Our exploration of time,"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "it's now taking on a whole new meaning"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "both in the world as well as in our"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "personal lives and our relationships."}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "Whether the cycles are playing out on"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "the smaller scale at a personal level or"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "the large scale on a global level, our"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "lives are unfolding within the container"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "of the divine matrix."}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "In the next episode, we'll explore the"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "3,000year-old"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "map of time that holds the key to where"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "the cycles lead and the secret to our"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "personal as well as our global destiny."}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "I want to thank you for joining me for"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "today's program and be sure to tune in"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "for our next all-new episode of the"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "divine matrix bridging time, space,"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "miracles, and belief."}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "So I thought we'd start at the beginning"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "which is in the vadas how how far back"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "does human history go?"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "It goes back forever. We have to"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "understand that the vadic cosmology"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "involves a cyclical concept of time"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "and the basic unit of this cyclical time"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "is called the kalpa or the day of"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "Brahma. Brahma is the creator god in the"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "vadic cosmology"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "and his day lasts for 4 bill320"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "million years. It's followed by a night"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "which also lasts for 4 bill320"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "million years."}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "And then there's another day, another"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "night. The cycle goes on endlessly."}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "And during the days of Brahma, life"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "including human life is manifest in the"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "universe in the cosmos. And during the"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "nights of Brahma, everything is dormant"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "in a sleeping or dreaming state. Now"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "according to the Vdic cosmological"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "calendar"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "we are about halfway through the current"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "day of Brahma which means it began about"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "two billion years ago. So as a Vadic"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "archaeologist,"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "I would expect to find evidence for a"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "human presence going back about two"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "billion years on earth"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "and the vadic writings speak of such"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "things. You know for example there's the"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "Bavad piranha. The piranhas are the"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "historical writings of ancient India."}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "The Bavat Piranha says that at the"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "beginning of the day of Brahma there"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "were human beings living on earth and it"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "even gives examples of them. One of them"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "was his name was Duva. He was a a very"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "saintly king."}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "So"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "this would date to two billion years"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "ago."}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "Yes."}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "Yes."}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "But actually we have to look at the day"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "of Brahma. It is divided into subcycles"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "called manars."}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "A day of Brahma is divided into 14 manar"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "periods."}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "And after each of them there's a"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "devastation"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "after which the earth has to be"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "repopulated."}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "Each manar"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "lasts roughly 300 million years. I think"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "about 306 million years to be exact."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "And after each one there's a"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "devastation."}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "Now we're currently in the seventh manar"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "of the current kalpa or day of Brahma."}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "That means there have been six before us"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "and that means there have been six"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "devastations after which the earth had"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "to be repopulated. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "Now this personality"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "Duva that I was mentioning according to"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "the Bhagavat Piranha he existed during"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "the first Manventur"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "and you know there's a sacred city in"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "India called Matura and in Matura there"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "are temples and sacred places that are"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "dedicated to the memory of this person"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "who existed during the first man of the"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "kalpa about two billion years ago."}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "Even before that, you know, there was a"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "night of Brahma. Before that, there was"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "another day of Brahma. Human beings were"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "existing."}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "And then be before that there was"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "another day of Brahma, another another."}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "So the human body which is actually a"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "vehicle for the soul for the conscious"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "self has always been available for"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "conscious selves who come to this level"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "of reality material reality."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "The original home of the conscious self,"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "the world of Brahman or spirit or pure"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "consciousness is beyond time. There are"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "no cycles of creation and destruction."}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "That is our original home to which we"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "are meant to return."}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "But for those conscious selves"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "in the world of matter, different"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "vehicles are available to them. Human"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "vehicles, animal vehicles, plant"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "vehicles,"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "all kinds of vehicles. Among them, the"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "human vehicle is the most valuable"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "because in the human vehicle, we have"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "the chance to restore consciousness to"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "its original pure"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "state. beyond the cycles of creation and"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "destruction that eternally go on on this"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "material level of reality and and that's"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "actually the most important purpose of"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "human life."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "I have a question a followup there. My"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "understanding is this is true not just"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "on earth but throughout the cosmos. This"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "human vehicle is populated throughout"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "the cosmos. Does the cosmos do then"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "other planets I assume um star systems"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "also abide by the same days of Brahma"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "and the same rules of creation"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "destruction"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "according to the piranhas the vadic"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "cosmological text"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "there are 400,000"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "humanlike species scattered throughout"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "yeah"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "the entire cosmos but it's a multi-level"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "cosmos with different levels,"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "with different kinds of energies."}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "The level that we're on now is a very"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "gross level in terms of its energy"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "density."}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "Right?"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "There are more subtle realms of the"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "cosmos. They're still material, but"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "they're made of more subtle mental,"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "intellectual, and egotistical"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "energies. And on that level, the beings"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "have vehicles made of more subtle"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "elements than we do."}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "And they have a longer span of life than"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "we do, but essentially that same human"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "type of vehicle is there, but in a more"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "subtle"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "form."}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "And even that form is a reflection of a"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "higher spiritual reality. The pure"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "conscious self in its spir spiritual"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "essence has form and senses."}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "And whatever we experience on this level"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "of reality is a reflection of something"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "that is ultimately real. The vadic sages"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "sometimes give the example of a tree"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "reflected in water. If you see the"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "reflection of the tree in the water,"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "it's not the ultimate reality. If you"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "try to take the fruit from the tree"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "reflected in the water, you don't get"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "But it points to the existence of a real"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "tree. So our human form on this level of"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "reality, it's limited in so many ways"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "in terms of being subjected to birth,"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "death, old age, disease, different kinds"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "of trauma, psychological trauma,"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "physical trauma,"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "but it points to the existence of"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "something that really exists on the"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "higher level. And the reason why we're"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "so dissatisfied with our condition here"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "is that deep inside we have some memory"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "of being beyond all of that. And that's"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "what we're meant to recover"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "in our journey through existence on this"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "level of reality."}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "Um the vadas and uh how they start"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "expressing themselves in some of the"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "lore that certainly we would do on shows"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "like this. Um, looking at what is known"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "as the Lamrian culture and the Atlantean"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "culture, how do the vadas view these"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "epochs of history? Are they given"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "different names, different locations? Is"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "it considered something entirely"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "different? Let's just talk about those"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "those evolutions within human history."}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "Well, according to the vadas, there are"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "cycles within cycles within cycles. And"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "we've mentioned some of the larger"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "cycles, the kulpas, the day of Brahma,"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "the manventur,"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "which last about 300 million years. And"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "then each mantar"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "is made of a cycle of 71"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "yugas."}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "71 cycles of four yugas."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "Mhm."}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "So the first yoga is called satya yuga."}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "It's an age of truth, harmony and people"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "according to the piranhas during the"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "satya yoga they live for 100,000 years."}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "There are no classes"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "and everyone is involved in yoga and"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "meditation and contemplation. They live"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "very simply and naturally."}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "And that"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "yoga is followed by the traa yoga. And"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "in the traa yoga,"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "things become degraded by about 25%."}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "And people in the traaea yuga according"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "to the ancient texts live for 10,000"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "years and they divide themselves into"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "classes."}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "Some are intellectuals,"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "some are rulers, some are farmers or"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "business people and then others are"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "artisans and laborers. and they begin to"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "live in towns and villages and cities"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "and there begins to be some division in"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "society but it's still even though these"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "divisions are there people are still"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "trying to act in harmony with each other"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "what is the tell me the name of it that"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "particular"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "okay"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "and that's followed by the dwar yoga"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "and it said that in that age people"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "lived for a thousand years."}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "Mhm."}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "And there are conflicts, major conflicts"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "that start,"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "but they are conflicts that go on"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "according to some kind of civilized"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "rules and regulations."}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "Now we find ourselves in the fourth age"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "called the Kali Yuga where people live a"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "maximum of a hundred years and"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "practically all spiritual principles are"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "gone."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "It's a time of increasing environmental"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "and social disturbance."}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "But you know it sounds pretty bleak but"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "just because it's raining doesn't mean"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "you have to get wet,"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "right? You know, you can shelter"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "yourself, you can shelter others. You"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "know, you can turn even the kali yuga at"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "least for you and whoever is trying to"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "do it into another golden age. That"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "ability is is there. It all depends upon"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "the choices that we we make as beings of"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "pure consciousness."}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "Does it where does it go after that"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "after the kala yuga"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "to another satya yoga another golden"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "age?"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "Okay. So we're back and then we're going"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "through this again. Okay."}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "Again and again and again. So where in"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "that would you place what we commonly"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "think to be Lamria or Atlantis and those"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "I would say those kinds of cultures"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "refer back to at least the Dwapra Yuga."}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "Mhm."}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "One of the features of the dwar yoga is"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "that people were in touch with higher"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "beings at higher levels of the cosmos."}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "You know in different cultures they had"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "different names for them. Gods,"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "goddesses,"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "davas, jin, whatever,"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "Astral beings."}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "That seems to be a feature of cultures"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "that existed before the beginning of"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "Kaliuga, which was about 5,000"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "years ago. They had highly developed"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "technologies, perhaps based on a more"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "subtle science than we have today."}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "I think a lot of our science today is"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "our attempt to duplicate the"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "achievements of previous cultures. Yes."}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "and denser energies."}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "We these there are choices that we're"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "making within this and we're watching"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "oursel learning very heavily through"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "contrast and destruction. And many"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "people do appear to be starting to ask"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "different questions now in that desire"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "that internal desire to move back up"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "into that the the realms of higher"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "consciousness within us again. But as"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "you say, these destructions do happen"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "periodically."}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "Wipes the slate clean. I'm not saying"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "that's what we're headed for, but I mean"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "it does happen. Let's get into that"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "process of once we've gone too far out"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "of balance, once a massive destruction,"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "be it natural or otherwise, does occur,"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "there's a process for repopulating the"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "planet and beings that help oversee"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "that. Can you talk about that?"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "Yes, there are these periodic"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "devastations that take place at the end"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "of each monventar"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "in particular."}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "And we're now"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "in the middle of a mandator period."}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "So not really slated for that to happen"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "right now."}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "Not right now. In about 180 million"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "years,"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "You know, in December of 2012, I was a"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "speaker on a cruise ship that went to"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "some of the Mayan sites like Chita"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "and I was speaking about the Vadic time"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "cycles. Many people were concerned at"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "that time because one of the time cycles"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "mentioned in the Mayan calendar was"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "about to come to an end. And some people"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "thought that that might involve some"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "kind of cosmic catastrophe or"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "devastation."}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "And I told them that that is coming but"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "not in December 2012. It's about 180"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "million years from now."}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "That was very comforting. I'm sure"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "you can register for your next year's"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "classes at school. You can continue to"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "make plans for your life."}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "And you were right."}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "But it will happen. It has happened."}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "And the earth does get repopulated."}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "To me, it it's helpful to think of this"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "in terms of cloud computing. You know,"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "people keep their files and their songs"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "and their pictures"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "on the cloud in the cloud."}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "So if their device happens to get"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "destroyed, well, you can always download"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "it again,"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "right,"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "from the cloud. So our cosmos is"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "arranged sort of like that. So that if"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "there is a devastation on this level of"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "reality, there are resources and"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "intelligence and personalities"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "on the higher levels of the cosmos that"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "can act to repopulate"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "the earth. According to the Vic"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "cosmological calendar, the Kaliuga"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "started 5,000 years ago. It will go on"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "for 427,000"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "years. But those same writings tell us"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "that the period we're in now"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "is like it's just like when winter is"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "coming on. Sometimes you get a few warm"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "days. So we're in one of those periods"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "now where it's possible for there to be"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "a golden age even in the midst of"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "Kaluga. It all depends upon the choices"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "that we each make as individuals."}]

[{"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "In 1944, the architect of quantum"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "theory, Mox Plank, he made a statement"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "that reverberated throughout the"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "scientific community like a shock wave"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "of a huge earthquake. While he was"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "speaking at a conference in Florence,"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "Italy, Plank stated, there is no matter"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "as such. All matter, he said, originates"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "and exists only by virtue of a force. We"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "must assume behind this force the"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "existence of a conscious and an"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "intelligent mind. This mind, he said, is"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "the matrix of all matter. Well, now we"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "know Planck was right. There is a field"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "of energy. It's universal. It's"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "everywhere all of the time and it"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "influences everything that happens in"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "the world around us as well as the world"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "within us. But the new evidence now goes"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "beyond simply telling us that this"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "matrix exists. The experiments are"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "revealing the rules that govern Planck's"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "matrix, also now known as the divine"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "matrix, and how we can apply those rules"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "in our lives. And that is what this"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "series is all about. My name is Greg"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "Braden, and I'd like to welcome you to"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "the divine matrix, bridging time, space,"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "miracles, and belief. I am your host for"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "this entire series, and I am absolutely"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "thrilled to bring you the discoveries as"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "well as the controversy surrounding"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "these discoveries. So let's begin with"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "the beginning. Just what is the divine"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "matrix?"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "Sometimes the best way to describe a"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "discovery and what it means is through a"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "real life example from the real world."}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "Between 1978 and 1995, a small group of"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "scientists working in a makeshift lab"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "tucked away on a US military base. They"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "accomplished something that was believed"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "to be impossible at the time. from their"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "small leaky laboratory at Fort me,"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "Maryland. Using simple techniques, the"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "researchers were exploring a"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "sophisticated and a mysterious new"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "frontier. But their frontier wasn't"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "located at the edges of the galaxy or"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "hidden deep inside the quantum atom. The"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "realm they were exploring was an inner"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "frontier, an advanced state of"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "consciousness that had a Star Trek-like"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "potential for gathering information"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "during the Cold War years. If someone"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "had casually walked into the room while"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "one of his experiments was happening,"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "they could have easily mistaken what"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "they saw for a lunchtime relaxation"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "class. But in truth, nothing could have"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "been further from the truth. The"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "researchers, they were sitting quietly,"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "their eyes closed, were learning to"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "access and sustain a mysterious state of"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "consciousness that you and I typically"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "pass through every night as we drift"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "into a deep sleep. The bottom line is"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "that they were trying to achieve three"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "things. First thing they were trying to"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "do was on demand access the state of"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "consciousness without slipping into a"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "deeper sleep. Number two, once they were"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "in this state, they wanted to stay"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "there. They wanted to stay suspended,"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "conscious, and actively awake and able"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "to function from this place. And number"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "three, they wanted to discover how the"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "state of consciousness can actually be a"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "conduit to other locations in the"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "physical world, remote locations that"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "they could actually see and hear and"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "smell and even touch without ever"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "leaving the laboratory. Well, the"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "technique they were exploring is called"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "remote viewing. and the name given to"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "the project at the time that tells the"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "whole story. It was called Project"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "Stargate and it was a military attempt"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "to explore the deepest realms of human"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "potential for military applications"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "during the Cold War years."}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "The idea was simply this, that valuable"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "and potentially life-saving information"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "could be gathered from the field around"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "us without risking the lives of men and"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "women with boots physically on the"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "ground going to these remote locations."}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "The key here is that the projects at"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "Fort me and remote viewing sessions in"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "general, these things can only be"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "possible because the matrix exists. It"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "provides something for the consciousness"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "of the viewer to travel through. Well,"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "project Stargate officially ended in"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "1995 and it's recently been"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "declassified. So, we now have access to"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "the results that were produced during"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "those early sessions at Fort me. And I'd"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "like to use some of those results as"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "well as others to give you just an"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "example of how real this matrix is and"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "how deeply it underlies our physical"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "reality."}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "In a typical remote viewing session,"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "there are two people that are involved."}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "One is the viewer and this is the one"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "whose consciousness is actually"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "traveling. And the second is called the"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "monitor. And the role of the monitor is"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "simple. The role of the monitor is to"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "guide the viewer into a specific state"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "of consciousness and then to help the"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "viewer stay in that state using"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "predetermined protocols and to"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "communicate from that state without"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "dropping into a deeper sleep. The"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "monitor guides the viewer step by step"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "to help them focus on things like a"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "precise location or an object that can"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "be either in another room, could be"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "another city, or it can be on a"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "battlefield on the other side of the"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "planet. Here's an example of what I"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "mean. The viewers are typically given a"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "target of some kind. It can be a"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "building. It can be a location. It can"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "be a geographic area. It can be a"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "person. They are given physical"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "coordinates. can be a street address. It"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "can be a latitude and a longitude. And"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "the viewers receive subtle sensations"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "while they're in this altered state. And"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "one of the things that the researchers"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "found during these early experiments is"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "that the sensations are not the most"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "present, the most visible, the"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "brightest, the most profound, but often"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "the very very subtle sensations. And"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "they have to be trained to recognize and"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "be able to detect these very subtle"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "sensations. And they begin to sketch on"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "a piece of paper what it is that they"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "see as well as other sensations of smell"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "or if they feel touch or uh they hear"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "specific sounds. The image that you're"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "seeing on the screen is an example from"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "one of these early sessions. The viewer"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "was given coordinates latitude and"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "longitude of a place somewhere on the"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "earth. They had no idea where this place"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "was. And from the altered state, the"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "viewer began to sketch what you're"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "seeing. And what you're seeing in the"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "upper right hand corner is a body of"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "water. The viewer felt that this was an"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "ocean and that was noted. You're seeing"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "the longitudinal"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "uh runway or highway that was drawn. And"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "it's very obvious in the center of the"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "image and then just to the left and uh"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "to the upper left they saw what they"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "perceived as as some kind of buildings"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "that were there. So the viewer is"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "sketching only what he or she perceives"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "in this subtle state without imposing"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "their ideas and their viewpoints, their"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "filters of what should or should not be."}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "And this is what takes the training."}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "Well, the next image that you're seeing"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "on the screen is an actual photograph of"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "the location that the viewer picked up"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "in the remote sensing session. This is a"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "military target and what you see in the"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "photograph is there's an ocean in the"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "upper part of the image. Uh there is"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "actually a runway and this so the viewer"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "was right on right on this target."}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "There's a runway that is running through"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "the center of the image and to the left."}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "We begin seeing the structures and the"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "buildings. So, what happens in these"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "sessions is sometimes a remote viewer"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "can pick up things that may not be"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "visible in the photographs and sometimes"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "the photographs have things that may not"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "be visible to the remote viewer. When we"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "put these together, they give us the"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "opportunity to gather information"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "without ever having a person physically"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "go to gather that information. Let me"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "give you another example and I find this"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "one really fascinating because of the"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "specificity here. The remote viewer was"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "given a location and in that location"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "the viewer began to detect very very"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "clearly a structure and you're seeing"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "that structure on the screen. didn't"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "know what the structure was, but the"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "wheels were very obvious. Uh, and the"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "form of the structure was very obvious,"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "and the viewer was trained to record"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "without projecting his or her"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "impressions. In this case, it was a"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "male, what it is that they saw. Well,"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "the next image that you're seeing on the"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "screen is what was actually there. This"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "is an industrial crane, and you can see,"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "look at the similarities. There are are"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "two wheels at each corner, and the"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "viewer got that right on. Look at the"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "structure uh and the the way that this"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "is moving along a track. The photographs"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "now show us that this was an industrial"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "crane from a military-industrial"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "complex, a very specific crane used only"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "to move very specific kinds of material."}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "So this gives the analysts, the military"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "analyst, insight into what's happening"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "at this location in ways that they could"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "only have if someone were physically"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "there watching this. So I'm sharing"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "these two images for a purpose. The"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "images begin as general descriptions and"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "the specifics can then be identified and"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "honed into. So for example on the crane,"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "the researchers could have asked for the"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "viewer to spend more time and more"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "detail and go deeper into what that"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "crane was all about and how it was being"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "used."}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "So, at its peak, the original remote"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "viewing project, it employed 22 people,"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "cost about $20 million, and it was used"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "on more than $450 missions. The project"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "was so successful, it located American"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "hostages in Iran. It successfully"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "pinpointed Scud missiles during the Gulf"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "War without ever sending men and women"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "into the desert, risking their lives"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "physically to find those missiles. It"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "even located the plutonium in North"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "Korea 1994 when there was a question as"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "to where North Korea was in their"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "nuclear program. The success of the"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "remote viewing experiments poses a key"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "question and the question is this. What"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "is the stuff the viewer's consciousness"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "is traveling through that allows the"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "viewer to see countries and secret"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "locations on the other side of the"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "planet? In a nutshell, the question is"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "this. It all boils down to what is in"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "what we call the empty space of the"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "universe. What is in the space of the"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "nothing? Well, to answer this question,"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "we've opened the door to one of the"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "greatest mysteries of our existence. A"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "mystery that our ancestors describe in"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "the language of their time and that"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "modern science is just beginning to"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "understand in ours."}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "Almost universally, ancient texts and"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "indigenous traditions describe a field"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "of energy that connects all things. I"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "want to give you some examples for how"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "those descriptions have been created in"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "the past so that you can see the"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "parallels to what we now know exists"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "today. Chief Seattle, 19th century elder"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "of the Squamish people, he described"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "this mystery. And I'm I'm going to read"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "this specifically. He said, \"All things"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "are connected. Man did not weave the web"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "of life. He's merely a strand in it. And"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "whatever he does to the web, he does to"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "himself."}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "In the prophecies of the ancient Hopi,"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "there are descriptions of a web or a net"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "as well. And this comes from the Hopi"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "prophecy of what happened after the"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "first world of the Hopi was threatened."}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "Spider grandmother emerged after the"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "destruction of the first world. She"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "emerged into the second world. And the"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "first thing that she did was she wo the"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "web of creation upon which her children"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "and her grandchildren and all things in"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "the universe could exist. And I want to"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "share with you the exact words from the"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "Hopi prophecy describing how this"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "happened. This is a quote. When the"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "universe was still so dark that not even"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "shadows could be seen in the night,"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "Spider grandmother began to sing her"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "weaving song while she danced across the"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "sky. As she spun her thread, the sky"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "world filled with light and life as the"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "stars and the suns and the planets"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "prepared to give birth to their"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "children."}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "Well, you can see from this description,"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "it certainly is not scientific, but it"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "is telling us that this universal"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "essence, this substance, what the Hopi"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "saw as a web, was what began the"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "beginning of the universe as we know it"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "today. Well, the Hopi aren't alone. In a"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "similar way, the ancient Buddhist"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "traditions describe how the great god"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "Indra created the web of creation. Far"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "away in the heavenly abode of the great"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "god Indra, the texts say there's a"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "wonderful net that stretches out"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "infinitely in all directions. And at the"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "intersection of each point on the net is"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "a glittering jewel of light. And that"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "light is a universe unto itself."}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "Well, the scientific community is"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "beginning to describe a structure that"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "sounds very similar to the Hopy web and"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "to Indra's net. It's a structure that"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "underlies our everyday reality. And even"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "Einstein sensed that this structure was"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "there. Although as a scientist,"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "interestingly, he shared it from a very"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "poetic description. What Einstein said"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "to us, he said, \"Nature shows us only"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "the tail of the lion.\" He says, \"I do"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "not doubt that the lion belongs to the"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "tail even though he cannot at once"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "reveal himself because of his enormous"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "size.\" So what Einstein was saying from"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "his perspective is there's something out"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "there, it's so big, but we cannot see it"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "from our vantage point where we are in"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "space and time. And this underlying"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "thinking played a powerful role as he"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "developed his theories of relativity and"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "some of the other theories and"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "mathematic concepts that led to those"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "theories."}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "So there's a common theme that weaves"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "its way through each of these"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "descriptions through the web of spider"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "grandmother through the net of the god"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "end through Einstein's perspective. This"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "this idea that there is something out"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "there that connects all things. Well, in"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "the beginning of this program, I shared"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "Max Plank's statement, his perspective"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "of this essence as well. And Plank's"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "statement of this matrix that underlies"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "our physical reality is a perfect"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "example of what this thinking is all"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "about. So the question is, what is this"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "made of? What is the web or the net or"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "the matrix made of? What are the rules"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "that govern this fundamental field of"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "energy? And what does it mean to us in"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "our lives? Well, in season 1, Missing"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "Links, the fifth episode, I described an"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "experiment. It's performed in"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "Switzerland at the University of Geneva"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "in 1997. I'm I want to summarize the"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "experiment for you now, and I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "do it from a little bit different"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "perspective, with a little bit different"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "emphasis from what I did in that first"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "season. The experiment itself, it was no"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "secret. It was reported over 3,400"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "journalists, educators, scientists, and"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "engineers in more than 40 different"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "countries."}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "And the experiment simply goes like"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "this. Scientists took a photon, a"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "particle of light. This is the stuff"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "that atoms are made of. They took a"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "single photon. They wanted to create two"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "identical photons. So they took the one"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "and broke it into two separate photons"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "so that each one would have identical"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "properties."}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "And those two photons they isolated into"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "a chamber. And from this chamber, they"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "used fiber optic cables moving in"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "opposite directions. And one cable went"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "seven miles to a town 7 mi away. The"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "other cable went 7 mi to another town 7"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "mi away. From the place where these"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "photons began, each of the photons was"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "shot 7 mi in opposite directions. So"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "when they reached their targets, they"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "were 14 mi apart. And this is where the"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "experiments actually begin because what"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "the scientists found was whatever they"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "did to one of the photons in one"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "location in one moment in time, the"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "other photon acted like it was having"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "exactly the same experience at exactly"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "the same moment in time. They used"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "atomic clocks to tell them how long it"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "took, how much time did it take for the"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "information to move from one photon to"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "the other. And this is where the"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "problems begin because the atomic clock"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "said the time was zero. There was no lag"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "time. It was instantaneous."}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "This breaks the rules of Einstein's"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "theory of relativity. Relativity says"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "that nothing can travel faster than the"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "speed of light. For the two photons to"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "have exactly the same experience at"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "exactly the same time with no lag time"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "means that somehow the information had"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "to move from point A to point B"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "instantaneously, faster than the speed"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "of light. This is where the problems"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "began. So the behavior of the photons is"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "a problem for conventional physics."}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "Those photons are defying the laws of"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "conventional physics. However, they"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "conform to the laws of relativity. And"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "this is where the experiment becomes"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "very relevant to everything that we're"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "talking about when we talk about this"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "matrix of energy. What the experiment"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "tells us is that particles that are once"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "joined physically"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "remain linked energetically"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "even though they are physically"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "separated from one another. Two photons"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "were once a single photon. Even though"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "they were split into two separate"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "photons, energetically they were"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "connected. The term is called"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "entanglement, quantum entanglement. And"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "what it means is that whatever is"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "happening to one of those photons in one"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "place, whether it's 14 miles from the"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "other one on the other side of the"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "planet or in the other side of the"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "universe, is irrelevant. They are"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "entangled and they will always reflect"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "the exact same parameters in one that"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "are happening to the other. Let me tell"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "you why this is so powerful, why this is"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "so important."}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "If we think about the model of creation,"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "if we think about our universe,"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "scientists tell us that the universe"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "began with a tremendous release, a"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "primal release of energy that we call"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "the big bang. In the big bang, energy"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "was released and it began to expand and"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "physical matter began to expand and move"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "away from the point of the release of"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "the energy. If we could reverse the big"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "bang, if we could take that physical"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "matter and bring it all back to the"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "point where it all began, what"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "scientists tell us is at that moment"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "just after the release of energy, all"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "the matter in the universe, as big as"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "the universe appears, all that matter"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "would fit into the space about the size"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "of a single green key. that all the"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "physical matter from all of the bodies,"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "all of the planets, all of the stars,"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "all of that physical matter, which is"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "believed to take up only about 4% of the"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "whole universe. Scientists tell us 96%"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "of the matter is missing. 96% of our"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "universe they believe is empty. So that"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "4% would be compacted into a single"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "sphere about the size of a green pee. A"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "really hot single sphere. They tell us"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "about 18 billion million million million"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "degrees. And when I talked to the"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "scientists about that, I said, \"Now, how"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "do you really know that?\" And they say,"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "\"Well, we don't.\" They say, \"But we know"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "that it was really hot.\" So when all of"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "that matter was compressed into that"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "single green pee, here's the key."}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "Everything was connected. Everything was"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "connected. And even though the force of"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "that primal release has allowed the"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "universe to expand and it's expanding"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "today and the physical matter is no"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "longer physical connected. The"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "experiment that we saw with the twin"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "photons suggests that all physical"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "matter is still connected that we are"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "still connected to one another. We're"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "connected to our planet. We're connected"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "to other stars and other planets. This"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "is the power of understanding what the"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "matrix is all about. The key is that the"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "matrix is not a byproduct that happened"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "after the big bang. Let me say this"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "again."}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "The matrix that we're talking about,"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "it's not something that happened after"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "the primal release. The matrix is the"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "release. The big bang is the matrix."}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "It's emerging as itself into itself."}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "Now, the implications of what I'm saying"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "to you and what these experiments are"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "showing are mind-boggling. We're going"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "to explore them throughout this series,"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "but I really want to emphasize that the"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "field that connects all things, the web,"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "the net planks matrix, the divine"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "matrix,"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "this field, it is the release of energy"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "itself."}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "Where did the field come from? Well, it"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "depends on who you talk to. The ancient"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "Vadus, for example, over 7,000 years"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "before present. They offer us a clue."}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "It's not in science, but they describe a"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "time before the beginning when what they"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "call is Brahman, the unborn in whom all"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "existing things abide, the one"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "manifesting as the many, the formless,"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "putting on forms. This is the way the"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "rig vda describes this primal energy"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "that is happening as this release of of"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "energy that we call the big bang. So"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "what we're finding is that the field"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "that fills the empty space, this 96%"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "of the universe that is believed to be"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "missing, it's not missing at all. It is"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "a form of energy that's been with us"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "from the very beginning. And this is why"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "I I think this is so important."}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "And cosmologists at the University of"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "California in Santa Cruz agrees. What he"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "says is that the big bang did not occur"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "somewhere in space, but it occupied the"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "whole of space. The big bang was space"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "itself bursting into a new kind of"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "energy. And that's the end of the quote"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "from him."}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "So with these ideas in mind, let's go"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "back to that twin photon experiment."}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "What really happened? Two photons 14"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "miles apart having exactly the same"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "experience at exactly the same period of"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "time. How did the information get from"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "one to the other? Well, that's a trick"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "question because now we know it didn't."}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "It didn't have to get from one to the"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "other because the information was"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "already there. And this is the point."}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "This is the controversy. This is the"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "mystery. It didn't need to travel at"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "all. Was already present. The experiment"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "is telling us that we are still"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "connected to people and places no matter"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "where on the universe, where on the"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "planet they may be. This is why"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "intuition works the way it works between"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "a mother and her son, for example, in a"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "battlefield halfway around the world."}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "We'll see this in future episodes. This"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "is why remote viewing works that we just"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "saw in this episode. This is why"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "experiments in teleportation are"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "working. Russell the co-founder of"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "the cognitive sciences program at"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "Stanford Research Institute, Menllo"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "Park, California. He describes this"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "connection in a really beautiful way."}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "Listen to what he says. Russell Tar"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "says, \"We live in a non-local world"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "where things physically separated from"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "one another can nonetheless be an"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "instantaneous communication.\" That's the"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "end of the quote. Well, the big bang and"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "the twin photon experiment tells us why"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "PR's statement is so powerful, why it's"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "so true. In 2004,"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "physicists from Germany and China and"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "Austria reported the first successful"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "experiment with teleportation of quantum"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "information. The results are out there"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "for everyone to see. They were reported"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "in the very prestigious journal Nature"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "volume 430 in the year 2004. And what"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "they did was they teleported the"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "blueprint for quantum particles from one"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "place to another and they did it"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "successfully. This was the first step."}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "Huge implications now in data encryption"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "and data security and information"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "transfer and ultimately the quantum"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "transfer of stuff like you and me. So"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "all the things that I'm talking to you"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "about right now, all of these things,"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "they're only possible because something"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "exists in the nothing. Because something"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "fills the space of the universe."}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "So, as excited as the scientists are"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "about the twin photon experiment, about"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "the teleportation experiment, in the"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "excitement of reporting the strangeness"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "of the outcomes, I sense that they may"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "be missing the most significant part of"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "those experiments, what those"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "experiments are telling us. They may be"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "missing the most shattering"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "implications. Because for all of these"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "experiments to work, it means that they"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "must be happening within something."}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "We're coming back to the same question."}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "What is the stuff that makes these"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "experiments possible? We know it's a"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "field, but what is it really? What is it"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "made of? How does it work? Well, in a"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "makeshift laboratory hidden in the"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "basement of a Case Western Reserve"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "University building in Cleveland, Ohio,"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "a 100 years ago, two scientists"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "performed the first experiment that was"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "supposed to answer this question once"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "and for all."}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "I want to thank you for joining me"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "today. Be sure to tune in for our next"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "allnew episode of The Divine Matrix,"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "bridging time, space, miracles, and"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "belief."}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Third"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "phase"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "of moon."}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "Third,"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "welcome back to Third Phase of Moon."}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "We've got the UFO videos coming to you"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "from around the world. Watch this."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "Hey, hey, hey."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "Baby"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "All right. What are we looking at? Some"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "sort of projection in the sky. We're"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "seeing an array of lights dancing,"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "hovering. What are we looking at? Could"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "this be some sort of project blue beam?"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "We want to hear your comments below."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "You notice right at the bottom right"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "this kind of flicker just kind of like"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "pulsating. This is legitimate footage."}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "No CGI or AI going on here. Whatever"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "we're looking at is totally legit."}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "Again, the big question is what is this?"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "It looks like some sort of terror in the"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "sky."}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "You can see actually an array of lights,"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "some sort of like circumference as it"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "rotates around uh around this kind of"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "projection. Could this be some sort of"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "again maybe an advertisement uh being"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "done displayed? But I don't see no kind"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "of meaning behind this. It just looks"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "organic."}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "What's your opinion, guys?"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "All right, we got more UFOs just in."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "We're just getting started here. Give us"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "a big thumbs up."}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "Roll the next one."}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "You can stay here."}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "All right, you may have seen this one"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "before, but again, we wanted to share"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "it. This is some of the clearest UFO"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "videos that are coming out of Mexico."}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "And we're going to get a good closeup of"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "this object as it just hovers over the"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "rooftops."}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "There it is. Probably out of I would say"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "about 120 150 ft up there in the sky."}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "And the person, you know, he he's kind"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "of moving around kind of giving us a"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "sense of the area. I wish he just"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "remained a little bit more focused on"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "the UFO, but at some points we get a"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "clear distinct look at what this thing"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "is."}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "I like the way he zoomed in right there"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "and then then we get a better look at"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "this thing and then he pulls out kind of"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "giving that vantage point on how high"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "this thing is up there in the sky."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "What's your opinion? We want to hear it."}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "Leave it in the comments below. We're"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "watching everybody as as they're leaving"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "a comment in this live premiere."}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "Look at the sharp appendages around this"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "uh whatever it is. It seems it seems"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "like they have these serrated edges"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "around this craft."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "All right. Like I said, we've got a ton"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "of UFO videos for you. So, we're going"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "to roll the next one. Take a look at"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "Columbia."}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "It's interesting. You hear him saying"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "that he, you know, people may think that"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "this is a moon and it definitely looks"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "like the moon and it's full of full moon"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "activity and then it just lights up and"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "starts to move. What is this? some sort"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "of high energy pulsing light coming from"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "sort of new tech drone. But look at this"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "thing. It just disappeared."}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "Dang. Let's watch this again."}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "He says, \"Luna, Luna.\" And then it"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "starts to blink and definitely that no"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "moon."}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "And then it starts to rise up a little"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "bit as it it gives this pulsating light."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "Boom. Right there."}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "The best part is when this thing kind of"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "just evaporates. It It just disappears."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "Look"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "right there."}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "All right. If you're looking for UFOs,"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "you're in the right spot right here at"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "Third Phase Moon. We've got them lined"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "up for you tonight. So, I'm just going"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "to put this one in and we want to hear"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "your opinion. Like I said, we're"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "watching every comment in the chat room"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "in this live premiere and we read every"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "comment that comes in uh into third"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "phase. We really appreciate the support"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "out there. Okay, let's roll this one."}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "Coming out of Texas."}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "[Applause]"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "Heat."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "down."}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "Hey"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "Hey, I would chase it and go across the"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "street, but I don't know what it is."}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "Hey, what is that?"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "Heat. Heat."}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "Okay, we're going to play the best part"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "of the video and grab these nice little"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "clips. Let's look at this again."}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "There it is. Flying right in front of"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "the billboard. What is this thing?"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "Wow. Interesting."}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "Yeah, it just slowly drifts into the"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "night sky as it passed in front of that"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "billboard and does this interesting"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "rotation as it kind of seems to fly in"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "some sort of intelligence. Look, it this"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "thing just stopped in midair."}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "Interesting closeup there. Let's roll"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "this again as it flies in front of the"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "billboard. This thing's rather large."}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "It has this kind of crablike quality to"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "it. Just saying. But look at this thing."}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "It has this, you know, silver sheen to"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "it. It looks metallic. And as it banks"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "like it's under control and then it just"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "seizes, it just stops right there in"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "midair."}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "At first I thought, could this be a"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "drone? But then I don't see no"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "propellers. It doesn't make any sense."}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "I've never seen a drone like this."}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "Let's get closeup. Look at the kind of"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "the crablike qualities. It has the legs"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "kind of this the claws on the back, but"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "then it does this. I'm not sure if it's"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "morphing, but it is definitely doing"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "this bank. And look at this thing. It"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "just again just seizes and stops and"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "then he tries to get a good closeup."}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "It's kind of in It's hard to distinguish"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "what we're looking at. Again, these are"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "unidentified flying objects that we're"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "showcasing right here at third phase."}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "Look at that thing just still just"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "remaining"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "over there in the neighborhood. and kind"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "of does this again. More banks. It's"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "It's moving again."}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "I like the way this person just, you"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "know, he kept filming. He He knew that"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "he was capturing the moment and he kept"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "his camera tracked on this thing."}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "If you're familiar with these"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "billboards, they're they're quite large."}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "You know, I would say 60 60 ft by 40 ft."}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "So, whatever this thing's passing in"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "front, it's got to, you know, have some"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "some length to it."}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "It looks like a solid object. This"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "doesn't look like a balloon."}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "It looks organic. What's your opinion,"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "guys? I'm digging this episode tonight."}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "Uh, we got more UFOs on the roster, but"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "these UFOs are coming in fast and"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "furious from the public, from you guys"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "watching this show, and we see the"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "submissions every day, and we appreciate"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "it. We look at everyone and then uh if"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "he captures something amazing like we"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "say we're going to post it right here at"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "third phase. What's your opinion on this"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "one guys? Is I really like the way this"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "this you know stopped and then and then"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "this guy just kept recording. He knew he"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "had something special right here."}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "Again,"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "no CGI or AI involved in any of these"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "videos tonight. We're we're deeming"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "everyone legit. Again, the big question"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "is uh what's what are these things up in"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "the sky."}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "All right, guys. Smash that thumbs up."}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "We've got more UFO videos just into"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "third phase. I'm excited about this one."}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "Let's roll it."}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "All right, this just in from"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "Pennsylvania. Look at this. We have two"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "military helicopters, I believe, in"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "pursuit of these two orbs. Uh, this has"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "been the phenomenon over the past year."}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "And now Pennsylvania is lighting up"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "again. You can see these military uh"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "choppers pretty much come to a stop"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "observing these uh two orbs of light."}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "Again, the this is a phenomenon right"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "Are they actually three orbs? I'm not"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "sure. Maybe they separated. There's a"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "two right there. distinct closeup. And"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "now we got the the two helicopters"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "engaging"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "these UFOs. It seems like the New Jersey"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "drone activity is lighting up. But in my"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "opinion, these plasmic orbs are not"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "drones. They're something otherworldly"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "in my opinion."}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "Wow. Cool stuff right here. Pennsylvania"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "lighting up. If you've seen this over"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "the neighborhood in the past couple"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "days, you send it right here to third"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "phase of moon. Appreciate that. Again, a"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "lot more stuff coming coming in to third"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "phase."}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "Look at this. I believe these are indeed"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "military. They don't look like your"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "regular, you know, police helicopters."}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "They seem much larger. More like a I'm"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "not sure."}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "We wanted to let you know we worked"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "really hard to put out these"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "documentaries. We go across the United"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "States to film them and now we're able"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "to give you one for free. It's available"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "on Tuby right now. It's our latest"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "documentary, Asymmetric Disclosure. The"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "link is below. Go watch it right now."}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "Here's the trailer for Asymmetric"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "Disclosure. Watch this."}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "You're either on the side of the law or"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "you're not."}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "The only way you're going to get to it"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "is somebody at the executive level that"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "says enough is enough. Cut the money"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "off. Bring these people in. Let's go."}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "This is not to be talked about any"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "further. And if you do, something can"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "happen."}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "All we need is one to be accurate. And"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "this whole concept of UFO crash"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "retrieval non-existing completely falls"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "apart."}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "Everybody wants to be in there. can give"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "any kind of sneak peek of what that's"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "like."}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "That organization has had the ability"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "since the 60s to hit a button and"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "simulate an alien attack on the planet"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "using these technologies."}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "Serious questions that have made a"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "growing number of drone sightings."}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "How do you set up a believable false"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "flag and operations that looks like it's"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "alien when it isn't?"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "So when it happens, they're not shocked."}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "They're not stunned. They can say, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "we knew this was going to happen."}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "which is potentially the most dangerous"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "where they're talking about quote"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "unquote catastrophic disclosure."}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "They put it into secrecy. They deny deny"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "and then they shut the people up."}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "And the president doesn't know about"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "that is an existential threat to"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "humanity."}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "That's right. Asymmetric Disclosure is"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "available right now on Tuby for free."}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "You know, we just put this out a couple"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "months ago. Age of Disclosure, I think"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "they've been working on this documentary"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "for about 3 to 4 years. It's finally"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "going to come out. But what we shot,"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "Asymmetric Disclosures, Up to Date, just"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "shot a few months ago. We put it out on"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "Amazon and iTunes, but now we're able to"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "give it to you for free. You can watch"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "it tonight, right now on Tuby, the"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "world. You can watch the latest"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "up-to-date information, what's going on"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "in Washington DC, what's going on with"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "unacknowledged"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "uh programs. We've got Billy Carson in"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "there. We've got Dr. Greer, Michael"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "Strat, Congressman Tim Burchett,"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "aerospace historian Jim Goodall. It goes"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "on and on with the information."}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "Asymmetric Disclosure is a mustsee if"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "you're into disclosure and you want to"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "know what's going on. The dark side of"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "the coverup, it's all here in Asymmetric"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "Disclosure, the latest documentary ahead"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "of its time. Like I said, Age of"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "Disclosure. It's been I think they shot"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "this four years ago. It took him 4 years"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "to finally get out and it still hasn't"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "come out yet. So get your"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "disclosure on right now and go take a"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "look at asymmetric disclosure. We want"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "to thank everybody from around the world"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "who just joined us right here at Third"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "Phase of Moon. And if you've caught"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "anything amazing, submit it to us right"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "here. My email is in the description."}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "Keep your eyes on the skies, everybody."}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "We're not alone. We'll see you next"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "time."}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Third"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "phase"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "of moon."}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "Third. Welcome back to Third Phase of"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "Moon. You've got the Cousins Brothers"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "and we've got incredible new UFO videos"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "for you. And we've got the old school"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "Paul Bear Third Phase of Moon music in"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "the background. Now, let's roll it."}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "You're looking at a transparent craft in"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "the sky. At first, I thought this could"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "have been manipulated, but when I saw"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "this go behind the trees, I decided,"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "let's share this right away on third"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "phase. We're looking at something"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "legitimate right now. Yeah, look at this"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "thing. This person's getting a great"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "capture. This thing's pretty far off in"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "the distance. And people thought maybe"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "it could have been a scratch on the lens"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "or a reflection. No, this is definitely"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "going behind the trees and we're seeing"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "something massive in the sky."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "space."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "I'm trying to wrap my head about what"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "exactly we're looking at. It definitely"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "I thought again could have been a"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "reflection off the maybe the guy's car"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "window, but we're looking at this thing"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "and it traverses behind the trees. I'm"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "estimating that this is at least 150"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "maybe 200 ft in length here. maybe 150"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "125 feet at width but whatever it is I"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "don't see any structure and it's just"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "it's insane it it could it be"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "a cloud I I don't think so it has"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "geometric shapes to it as well guys we"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "want to get your thoughts in this live"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "premiere right now on third phase we've"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "got a lot of UFO sightings for you so"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "buckle up give us a big thumbs up now"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "let's get to the next UFO sighting just"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "in take a look at this"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "looking through a thermal under white"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "There's a truck. Zoom in on a truck."}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "Let's get our focus."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "Okay, that truck is about"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "oh 150 yards away. Okay, now that's the"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "moon. And we're just going to start"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "scanning the sky because there's a lot"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "of going on that you can't see with"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "the naked eye that I cannot explain."}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "They're not bugs. They're not bats."}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "Here, that's what a plane looks like."}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "Okay. And there's something next to the"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "plane. I don't know what it is. Okay."}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "There goes a shooting star, I think."}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "But you catch my drip that's out in"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "front of the plane."}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "And I don't know what it is. It's like"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "the plane's following it."}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "It's not a satellite."}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "They're all over the place. Can't see"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "them with the naked eye. No idea what"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "they are, but they're freaking See that"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "one? This turn this turn. They're not"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "bats."}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "They're everywhere."}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "All right, we're going to roll a portion"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "of the video. Once again, I like that"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "he's out there UFO hunting, seeing"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "things he can't explain. And look at"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "this. a UFO"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "right there flanking the ma the major"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "airliner right there. I don't think it's"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "a satellite. And uh I don't know. It's"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "just it's he's saying that this happens"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "all the time in his uh backyard. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "Interesting. He's got the night vision"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "going. And there it is. The orb. That's"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "a good closeup as it comes along from"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "the left side to the right. And it says"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "that they're going to There's two of"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "them. Look, there's two UFO orbs up"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "there in the night sky. And these things"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "are making turns. Look at that thing."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "So he goes out there pretty much on a"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "nightly basis and he's experiencing the"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "phenomenon. And take a look at this one"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "more time."}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "Close proximity. It almost seems that"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "this major airliner is engaging the UFO"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "as it seems to it wants to track it."}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "civilian footage. It doesn't get much"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "better than this. You know, the"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "government, they put out their UFOs,"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "these leaked UFO UAP videos coming in"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "from the government. The disclosure is"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "in the public's hands. They're capturing"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "it 24/7. And right here at Thirdphase"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "Moon, we're sharing it with you. We've"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "got more footage just in, guys. Take a"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "look at this."}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "That's a US."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "That looks like a"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "correct me if I'm wrong."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "All right, we're going to take this and"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "blow it up. Get a close look. Look at"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "the this thing. It just changed"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "directions. It was going in one. It"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "seemed on a trajectory that was almost"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "seemingly like it could have been an"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "airplane, but airplanes don't switch"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "directions just like that. Or do they"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "blink out of thin air? Like this thing"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "disappear right in front of your eyes."}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "So I like it. This guy's like driving on"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "the freeway. He sees something in the"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "sky. He's saying that's that's a UFO and"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "then it's gone in a blink of an eye. You"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "see him pull back and it is This is Look"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "at how it just changes directions. Could"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "it have been a parallax effect going on?"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "Brett, what's your thoughts on this one?"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "Yeah, maybe he was on the freeway and it"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "take a ride or something and just the,"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "you know, the angle of the camera could"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "have created this parallax effect where"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "it looks like it's actually midstop and"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "then turns the other way. I'm not sure."}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "It's a unique look and that's why we're"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "sharing it. Cool stuff right here."}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "Then he's tracking it. He actually has a"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "pretty steady hand as he's driving and"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "following this UFO. And then again,"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "that's what's kind of crazy. Look, he"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "pulls back. There's no sighting of this"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "object anymore. Guys, we want to get"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "your thoughts. What the heck is going on"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "in our skies?"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "Let's get to the next video right here"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "at Thirdphase Moon. Give us a big thumbs"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "up, guys. Like I said, we have a lot of"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "evidence in tonight's episode and we're"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "happy to share it with you. Broadcasting"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "from the Hollywood Hills."}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "All right, let's roll this once again."}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "I'm going to pull up a closeup in just a"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "moment. Um, you can hear the man. He's"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "kind of stunned. He's not exactly what"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "he's seeing and witnessing, but he"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "captures it, holds a steady hand, and"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "there we go. We got a broad daylight"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "sighting of a morphine UFO. These guys"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "are pointing up at at it and they're"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "just like, \"What the heck is going on"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "here?\""}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "And then it takes off. I didn't even see"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "that. We're watching this once again."}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "Let's take a look at this."}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "Extreme rate of speed"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "or did it just like blink out?"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "Brent, what's your thoughts on this?"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "This is kind of like it just disappears"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "right before your eyes. You see the"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "people on the ground, they're pointing"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "up. Bam. It just vanishes. Look at that"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "thing. Or it could have took off at like"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "light speed. I'm not sure. But let's"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "look at this again."}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "Boom. Yeah, maybe you could almost see"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "it take off a little to the right. But I"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "don't know. This looks pretty authentic."}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "I like way the way you see the guy"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "pointing at it and the way the camera"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "zooming in and out. Everything looks"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "pretty authentic. Looking pretty legit"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "Let's look at this thing again. See if"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "it actually disappears. Maybe the camera"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "went out of focus, but it doesn't appear"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "to be that way."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "Yeah, I was I was looking for a little"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "jitter. Maybe he shut the person shut"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "the camera on and then turned it back"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "shut the camera off and then turned it"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "back on and then maybe it was a few"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "minutes later or second later and this"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "thing took off. But that's an"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "interesting I'm just again it's this you"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "don't get to see this kind of UFO just"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "like a disappear just like that. Guys,"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "we want to get your thoughts on this one"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "right now. This live premiere, we're"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "watching you and we're in the chat. Now,"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "let's get to the next video. Guys, take"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "a look at this. This is crazy stuff,"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "man."}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "Come here."}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "Look at this huge this huge freaking"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "square."}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "Talking are we talking weather"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "manipulation here? the cube, a geometric"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "shape in the clouds. I like this guy"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "says, \"Hey, get out of come here. Take a"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "look at this.\" And he's he's capturing"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "on camera this a weather phenomenon"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "right there in Arizona. And uh he's"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "stating that it's a giant cube. What do"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "you make of this weather manipulation?"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "Yeah, this is pretty cool. I like it."}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "Look at these sharp lines. It definitely"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "looks like there's this cube, the square"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "up there hidden within the clouds. Could"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "it be some sort of, you know,"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "atmospheric phenomenon? Or some people"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "may suggest harp or some sort of a"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "project blue beam creating this kind of"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "a holographic projection in the clouds."}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "Yeah, one way or the other, the weather"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "can get strange and that's what we're"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "looking at. We loved weather phenomenon"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "and in this case it could be natural but"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "again it just screams unnatural with"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "this cube shaped geometric square cube"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "in the sky. You don't see this every day"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "and uh that's why we're sharing it with"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "you right here at Thirdphase."}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "All right, Brent's pulling up another"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "video. This is kind of breaking news. We"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "just we started out with a few videos"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "about a half an hour ago when we're"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "editing and then all of a sudden a"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "plethora of evidence just came in. And"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "so we're going to keep rolling it"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "tonight. Let's get to the next one right"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "now. Guys, let me know your thoughts on"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "this one."}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "Okay. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "right. This is uh coming in from"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "California somewhere in the desert of a"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "streaking UFO basically moving"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "horizontal. Is it leaving a tail or is"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "it a tic tac-shaped craft? But man, he's"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "like he's saying, \"Okay, what is this?\""}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "I want to get your thoughts, guys. But"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "what do you make of it? We're going to"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "get some close-ups on this."}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "Yeah, he just had a moment of time to"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "capture just seconds, but we're getting"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "a good closeup, and you're seeing this"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "kind of cigar- shaped uh craft leaving"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "some sort of streak, a tell of something"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "behind it, some sort of wake. This"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "doesn't look like no commercial"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "airliner. I don't see any plane uh wings"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "or any of that sort. It looks like some"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "sort of like tic tac."}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "Could it be artifacting that's leaving"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "the trail behind this object? Whatever"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "it is, it's unknown in origin. And"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "that's uh the things we like to share at"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "Third Phase. If you're looking for the"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "latest, greatest UFO videos coming in"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "from around the planet, you're in the"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "right place. And guys, your comments are"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "just as important to us as these videos"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "as they come in. It all helps in"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "disclosure. Now, another video just into"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "third phase. Guys, feast your eyes on"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "Okay, just uh went behind the building"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "Salt Lake City"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "just a few days ago and uh we're"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "watching this. It looks similar to the"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "video we just showed to you moments ago"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "again. This black morphine UFO in the"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "sky, the one that just took off at a"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "blink of an eye. That's one I'm"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "referring to. But I don't know. It"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "almost seems like the same object,"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "Brent. Yeah, definitely uh very similar."}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "This one, it's hard to tell what it"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "could be. It's definitely up there in"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "the sky. It's legitimate footage, but"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "the question is what is it? Could it be"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "maybe just a pack of balloons? I'm"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "throwing it out there, but it it just"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "doesn't look like that. It looks almost"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "like this weird kind of nanotech within"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "within it. All these little fractuals"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "going off within this craft. Yeah, it"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "looks like one solid piece. I don't see"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "a bundle of balloons. Then the guy on"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "the ground says that's no balloon. He"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "he's he he sees it with his naked eye."}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "Again, broad daylight sighting. He"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "doesn't know what it is. And we're so"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "happy that we're sharing this, guys. In"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "Salt Lake City, October 27th, 2025. Did"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "you notice anything like this in the"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "sky? Submit it to us right here at Third"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "Phase. Now, more videos coming in. And"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "uh this one's coming in from Mexico."}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "It's pretty wild. Watch."}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "Is this"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "a whale must be a whale?"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "Foreign"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "speech. Foreign speech. Foreign speech."}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "What's it doing?"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "All"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "right, let's pull up the side byside"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "comparison. The original to the left. I"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "blew up the other one. I tracked it a"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "little bit so we kept it in frame. But"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "look it. The man has a steady hand and"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "he's capturing something. He heard"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "people on the street. OMI, they they"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "don't know what it is. And uh there"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "what's kind of interesting when you look"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "at it closely here, there's all kinds of"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "activity around this craft."}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "The birds seem attracted to it like"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "almost like there's a there's"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "electricity in the air. It's attracting"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "the birds through a possible frequency."}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "You see that? Look at all the the"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "activity around it."}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "Yeah. Look how it just slightly rotates"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "too as it just hovers over there"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "somewhere in Mexico. It is kind of"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "descending just a little bit, but look"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "at the activity of birds just flying"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "around this thing. It's this thing's"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "activated."}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "And then I like this part, too, cuz it"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "traverses behind the electric lines"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "there. So, we know that this thing's off"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "at a distance. It's quite large. I'd say"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "maybe about 40 to 60 ft in diameter. But"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "again, uh these broad daylight"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "sightings, I I pretty much we could deem"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "this 100% legitimate."}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "More broad daylight sightings, which we"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "like as well. Wow, there's a lot of them"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "in this episode. Guys, what's your"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "thoughts on this one?"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "We wanted to let you know, we worked"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "really hard to put out these"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "documentaries. We go across the United"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "States to film them and now we're able"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "to give you one for free. It's available"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "on Tuby right now. It's our latest"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "documentary, Asymmetric Disclosure. The"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "link is below. Go watch it right now."}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "Here's the trailer for Asymmetric"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "Disclosure. Watch this."}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "You're either on the side of the law or"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "you're not."}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "The only way you're going to get to it"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "is somebody at the executive level that"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "says enough is enough. Cut the money"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "off. Bring these people in. Let's go."}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "This is not to be talked about any"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "further. And if you do, something could"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "happen."}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "All we need is one to be accurate. And"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "this whole concept of UFO crash"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "retrieval non-existing completely falls"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "apart."}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "Everybody wants to be in there. Can you"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "give any kind of sneak peek of what"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "that's like? That organization has had"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "the ability since the 60s to hit a"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "button and simulate an alien attack on"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "the planet using these technologies."}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "Serious questions tonight amid a growing"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "number of drone sightings."}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "How do you set up a believable false"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "flag and operations that looks like it's"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "alien when it isn't?"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "So when it happens, they're not shocked."}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "They're not stunned. They can say, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "we knew this was going to happen.\""}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "which is potentially the most dangerous"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "where they're talking about quote"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "unquote catastrophic disclosure."}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "They put it into secrecy. They deny deny"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "and then they shut the people up"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "and the president doesn't know about."}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "That is an existential threat to"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "humanity."}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "That's right. Asymmetric Disclosure is"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "available right now on Tuby for free."}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "You know, we just put this out a couple"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "months ago. Age of Disclosure. I think"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "they've been working on this documentary"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "for about 3 to 4 years. It's finally"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "going to come out. But what we shot,"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "Asymmetric Disclosure, is up to date."}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "Just shot a few months ago. We put it"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "out on Amazon and iTunes, but now we're"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "able to give it to you for free. You"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "could watch it tonight right now on Tuby"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "the world. You can watch the latest"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "up-to-date information. What's going on"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "in Washington DC? What's going on with"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "unacknowledge"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "uh programs? We've got Billy Carson in"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "there. We've got Dr. Greer, Michael"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "Strat, Congressman Tim Burchett,"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "aerospace historian Jim Goodall. It goes"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "on and on with uh the information."}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "Asymmetric Disclosure is a mustsee if"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "you're into disclosure and you want to"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "know what's going on, the dark side of"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "the coverup. It's all here in Asymmetric"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "Disclosure, the latest documentary ahead"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "of its time. Like I said, Age of"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "Disclosure. It's been I think they shot"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "this four years ago. It took him four"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "years to finally get out and it still"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "hasn't come out yet. So, get your"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "disclosure on right now and go take a"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "look at asymmetric disclosure. We want"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "to thank everybody from around the world"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "who just joined us right here at Third"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "Phase of Moon. And if you've caught"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "anything amazing, submit it to us right"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "here. My email is in the description."}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "Keep your eyes on the skies, everybody."}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "We're not alone. We'll see you next"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "time."}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "Heat. Hey, Heat."}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Third"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "phase"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "of moon."}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "That's right. Third phase of moon's"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "back. And this is Blake Cousins along"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "with my brother Brent. What are we"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "looking at right now? Falling out of the"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "sky. Is this a crashing UAP or UFO?"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "People are stunned. They're pulling out"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "their cell phone cameras. Capturing"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "something. A fireball."}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "Is it shot down? Is this something"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "celestial or what actually is going on"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "here? That's what we want to find out."}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "Incredible footage just into third"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "phase. And right now we can tell you"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "what we're looking at. It's 100%"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "legitimate. No AI. You can see people"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "looking at the phenomenon. Look it as we"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "get a really closeup that it almost"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "crash landed in a neighborhood there."}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "Rick, what's your thoughts? Yeah, pretty"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "cool footage. Digging this. We're seeing"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "this, you know, it could be some sort of"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "celestial object falling from the sky,"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "but it has a slow descent, which kind of"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "makes me believe that this isn't some"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "sort of celestial event. That this is"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "something else. Could it be a typical"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "flare? I don't know. The descension"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "seems to be falling down a little faster"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "than a typical flare. What is this?"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "Right,"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "one more time. Let's get a closeup"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "before we get to the next UFO video"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "right here at Thirdphase Moon. And we've"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "got a lot of them for you in this"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "episode. Give us a big thumbs up. But"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "look at the smoke trail as it descends"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "downward."}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "And whatever the composite of this"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "object is, it's leaving a fire smoke"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "trail behind it. And again, it seems to"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "have landed in this kind of neighborhood"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "off in the distance. I would imagine"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "that there's some material that could be"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "retrieved."}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "Now, more UFOs right here. Take a look"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "at this, guys."}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "Please"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "All right, let's get a closer look at"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "this. I added some brightness, contrast."}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "What is this transparent plasmic"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "unknown?"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "What? It's just morphing in all these"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "kind of different shapes. Shapes. This"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "is strange, right?"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "Yeah. Look at this thing. It's just kind"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "of weaving through the sky and it's it's"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "moving in all sorts of directions that"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "doesn't make any sense. It almost looks"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "like a a huge piece of thread thrown up"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "there in the sky floating in the wind."}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "But there's no there's nothing"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "conventional about this. And it's very"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "mysterious too at the same time. What"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "are we looking at, guys?"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "All"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "right, let's look at the original. Once"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "again, we're going to keep it short"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "because we've got so many UFO videos we"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "want to share with you. But what is this"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "smoky transparent translucent action"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "going on in the sky? That's what we want"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "to know. And it's it's broad day broad"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "daylight. I can tell you again, no CGI"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "or AI here. Legitimate footage of"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "something unknown."}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "We want to get your thoughts, people"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "from around the world. Your comments are"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "important to us. Now, let's get to the"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "next video right now."}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "The United States has much more leverage"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "over China than China has over us. And"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "yes, you know, a lot of Americans have"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "talked about rare earth"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "and pharmaceutical dependency with"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "China."}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "All right, we're going to watch this"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "once again. This was captured about a"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "week ago. Uh people said, \"Did you guys"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "see this UFO as Trump lands in Tokyo"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "last week to do some meetings with the"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "prime minister over there?\" But we're"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "looking at something that is kind of"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "looks like this unknown one of those"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "drones that was happening over in New"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "Jersey. This thing's massive."}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "Very strange that it's a close in close"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "proximity to the president. Is this"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "maybe some kind of protection that's"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "kind of in a deep project, a deep black"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "project that's there to protect the"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "president? Yeah, I'm sure there's all"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "sorts of technology out there that we're"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "not familiar with that is being used in"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "a a you know a national security"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "situation, especially protecting the"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "president of the United States. So,"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "yeah, good eye whoever captured that."}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "It's definitely something out there. It"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "definitely looks man-made. It could be"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "one of these drones though, these"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "unmanned drones that uh that has this"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "new tech. These things are big."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "What's interesting too is that the image"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "only lasts for a few moments."}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "Apparently, right when this visual came"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "up and you were able to see it, Fox News"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "cut the feed as to obscure whatever this"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "thing is. Obviously, it has the LEDs. I"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "think it's obviously it's ours, but it"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "it's up there. It's Look at the shape of"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "this. It's I would say at least 30 to 40"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "feet in length. Not your typical drone"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "that we're aware of. Uh very strange."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "Glad we could share it with you, Fox."}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "Cutting the feed right when this showed"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "up. But we got you, Fox. We We're"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "sharing it with the world right now."}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "Now, take a look at this coming in from"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "Tik Tok. Somebody said, \"Guys, what's"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "your thoughts?\""}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "Okay, it only lasts for a few moments."}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "Apparently, it looks like somebody's on"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "a high-rise building or maybe a high"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "tower up on a mountain side. It's cloudy"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "below and then this illuminated disc"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "comes into frame. I got a feeling this"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "is uh one of these that it's too good to"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "be true. I think I'm going to call it"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "out that this to me seems AI generated."}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "People said, \"Hey, take a look. We're"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "giving you our honest opinion.\" Brett,"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "what's yours? Yeah, Blake, I did a"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "little research on this just a couple"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "hours ago, and I did find the exact"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "uploader, and there was um a a"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "description, a statement from a creator."}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "Yep. This is definitely AI, man. It's"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "getting good. Definitely. It's part of"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "our world right now. We got to address"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "it. And hey, people are sending us"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "footage, so we're we're giving our"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "opinion. This is AI, guys. But it's"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "getting a little hard to discern on some"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "things, but when it looks too good to be"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "true, you got to definitely do your"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "homework."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "All right, guys. We've got uh again,"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "legitimate UFO videos. It's it's a a"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "plethora right here at Third Phase Moon."}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "Tens of thousands of submissions from"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "real people around the world just like"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "you"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "witnessing something they can't explain."}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "Now, let's take a look at this. It's"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "pretty fast, but it was another"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "celestial event."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "This was a huge celestial event that"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "happened last week. And look at this"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "thing dissipate. It almost seems like it"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "was on its way to make impact. Multiple"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "angles captured and this incredible"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "green meteor just streaking across the"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "sky. Look at this coming in from"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "Budapest."}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "Captured all over the world. Dang, that"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "looks spooky. All right, more videos"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "right here coming in from uh different"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "parts, different people capturing this"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "thing. Look at the plasmic activity. It"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "has this greenish hue. I wonder what the"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "composite of this meteorite or meteor"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "was, Brett. Yeah. Could it be falling"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "space junk? Some sort of satellite"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "that's skipping across our our"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "atmosphere and burning up as it enters"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "uh Earth's atmosphere. Again, these"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "things are falling more frequently than"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "normal. People around the world are"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "capturing these uh these events, these"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "celestial events or again uh just"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "garbage from space falling back in into"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "our Earth's atmosphere. But it's a it's"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "an amazing capture. We're going to share"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "it because it's a phenomenon. We still"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "don't know what it is."}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "Yeah. We have astronomers keeping our"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "eyes their eyes on the on space looking"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "for these kind of events as to protect"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "us. You know, never know what could"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "impact Earth and do something that could"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "be quite damaging. And some of these"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "things kind of come out of nowhere as"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "they come from behind the sun and"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "they're obscure from the view of a"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "telescope looking for these things and"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "then it could just come around the sun"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "and boom, we only got so much time to"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "prepare. And would they even let us know"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "if there was going to be an eminent"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "impact on Earth? I'm pretty sure they"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "keep that on the down low, not to get"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "everybody freaking out because there's"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "really nothing that we could do to"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "prevent an impact. But the incredible"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "footage coming in from the region over"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "there in Budapest and across that area."}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "Now, take a look. More videos just into"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "third phase. This one's kind of crazy. A"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "plasmic"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "unknown object spitting out or releasing"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "drones. Take a look at this. It seems"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "like it's almost melting."}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "Okay, we're going to get a little"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "closeup of just this part of the video"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "that kind of caught our interest is this"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "thing ejects multiple objects. Possible"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "scout drones."}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "I don't think it's a Chinese lantern."}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "Right. Quickly before we get to the next"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "video. Yeah, look at that thing. It just"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "released this object as it slowly"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "descends. Then there's another one."}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "Multiple objects being um ejected from"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "whatever craft this is."}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "All right, more videos just into third"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "phase. Like I said, we've got a lot of"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "them for you. Take a look."}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "You see it? It's right there. An orb"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "just traversing across the countryside."}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "Let me get a sideby-side comparison. The"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "original to the left. And uh I did a"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "closeup to the right. There you see it"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "just on an intelligent trajectory as the"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "winds blowing. But look at this thing"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "steady in its in its path gliding"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "through the sky."}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "Almost as if it's on a mission here."}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "This is incredible footage."}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "Yeah. Look how it seems to avoid the"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "treetops as it makes kind of a upward"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "motion as it gets closer to the mountain"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "side. This thing seems to be, you know,"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "on some sort of intelligent control."}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "All right. There it's"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "it's right there to the right. You can"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "see it as in the enlarged video here. I"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "think I blow it up about 300%. But look"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "as it, like you said, Bren, it seems to"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "avoid the mountain side and just almost"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "come to a a complete stop and then go"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "straight up."}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "Wow. A lot of footage coming in. That's"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "This is incredible. Legit footage, guys."}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "Give it a big thumbs up. Now, you've got"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "heard of the TR3B. This one This one's a"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "good capture of it. Watch."}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "All right, let's roll that once again."}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "He scrambles to get the shot. Goes"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "outside. You can see he's out in the"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "neighborhood outside of I think his"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "backyard"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "and zooms in on this triangular shaped"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "object. It's hovering there in the sky."}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "The typical triangle shape with the red"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "sensor,"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "the three lights on on the trifecta. And"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "it's off at a distance. I'd have to say"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "I I don't think it's as big as one of"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "those quarter mile or half mile or mile"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "wide TR3Bs, but look how high up there"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "it is. I'd say at least it's at least 30"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "to 40 feet in length here."}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "Yeah, it could be some modified drone. I"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "I don't know. But we do see the classic"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "tells of what people describe as a TR 3B"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "with the three points of light and the"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "red kind of center right in the middle"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "of the craft uh shining red, but it's"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "interesting. The out outside lights are"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "green. Usually they're white. So"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "definitely there there's probably all"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "sorts of prototypes and different uh"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "manufacturing companies whoever's making"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "the TR3B like possible Loheed Martin and"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "those that like but again we're looking"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "at something in the sky unidentified."}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "And once again in our opinion uh we're"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "deeming this one 100% no AI or CGI. Like"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "we were saying earlier, you know, AI is"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "getting pretty good, but we've been"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "doing this for over 20 years, looking"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "closely at tens of thousands, hundreds"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "of thousands of videos. So, I think"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "we're pretty good at uh calling out"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "what's real and what's not. But hey,"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "again, nobody is 100% in this field. And"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "if they tell you they are, uh I don't"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "know. There's not many experts out there"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "in this field because nobody's got a UFO"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "in their possession that we could break"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "down and analyze. Now, that would be a"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "true UFO expert if you have the UFO in"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "your possession. But we'll see what if"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "that day ever comes. Guys, we want to"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "get your opinions on this sighting right"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "now. It's important that you leave your"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "comments as we share the evidence that"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "comes in worldwide to us right here at"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "Thirdphase."}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "We wanted to let you know, we worked"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "really hard to put out these"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "documentaries. We go across the United"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "States to film them and now we're able"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "to give you one for free. It's available"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "on Tuby right now. It's our latest"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "documentary, Asymmetric Disclosure. The"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "link is below. Go watch it right now."}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "Here's the trailer for Asymmetric"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "Disclosure. Watch this."}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "You're either on the side of the law or"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "you're not."}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "The only way you're going to get to it"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "is somebody at the executive level that"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "says enough is enough. Cut the money"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "off. Bring these people in. Let's go."}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "This is not to be talked about any"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "further. And if you do, something could"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "happen."}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "All we need is one to be accurate. And"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "this whole concept of UFO crash"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "retrieval non-existing completely falls"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "apart."}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "Everybody wants to be in there. Can you"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "give any kind of sneak peek of what"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "that's like? That organization has had"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "the ability since the 60s to hit a"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "button and simulate an alien attack on"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "the planet using these technologies."}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "Serious questions tonight amid a growing"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "number of drone sightings."}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "How do you set up a believable false"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "flag and operations that looks like it's"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "alien when it isn't?"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "So when it happens, they're not shocked."}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "They're not stunned. They can say, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "we knew this was going to happen.\""}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "which is potentially the most dangerous"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "where they're talking about quote"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "unquote catastrophic disclosure."}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "They put it into secrecy. They deny deny"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "and then they shut the people up"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "and the president doesn't know about."}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "That is an existential threat to"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "humanity."}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "That's right. Asymmetric Disclosure is"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "available right now on Tuby for free."}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "You know, we just put this out a couple"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "months ago. Age of Disclosure, I think"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "they've been working on this documentary"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "for about 3 to 4 years. It's finally"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "going to come out. But what we shot,"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "Asymmetric Disclosure, is up to date."}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "Just shot a few months ago. We put it"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "out on Amazon and iTunes, but now we're"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "able to give it to you for free. You can"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "watch it tonight right now on Tuby the"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "World. You can watch the latest"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "up-to-date information. What's going on"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "in Washington DC? What's going on with"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "unagnowledged"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "uh programs? We've got Billy Carson in"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "there. We've got Dr. Greer, Michael"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "Strap, Congressman Tim Burchett,"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "aerospace historian Jim Goodall. It goes"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "on and on with the information."}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "Asymmetric Disclosure is a mustsee if"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "you're into disclosure and you want to"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "know what's going on. The dark side of"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "the coverup. It's all here in Asymmetric"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "Disclosure, the latest documentary ahead"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "of its time. Like I said, Age of"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "Disclosure. It's been I think they shot"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "this four years ago. It took him four"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "years to finally get out and it still"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "hasn't come out yet. So, get your"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "Disclosure on right now and go take a"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "look at asymmetric disclosure. We want"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "to thank everybody from around the world"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "who just joined us right here at Third"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "Phase of Moon. And if you've caught"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "anything amazing, submit it to us right"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "here. My email is in the description."}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "Keep your eyes on the skies, everybody."}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "We're not alone. We'll see you next"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "time."}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "Heat."}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "Hey, Heat."}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "Heat. Hey, Heat."}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Third"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "Phase"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "of Moon."}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "Welcome back to Third Phase of Moon."}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "You've got the Cousins Brothers and"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "we've got incredible new UFO videos just"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "in. It's good to be back. We're working"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "on a licensing deal to get you a free"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "documentary. More details at the end of"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "this episode. But right now, Haimei"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "Rodriguez, the former governor of Newevo"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "Leyon, shared this on his Facebook"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "moments ago of something strange out in"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "his backyard. He shared it to the"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "public. Guys, we want to get your"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "thoughts. Watch this."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "Woohoo!"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "Anyway,"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "Right. Let's take a look at this once"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "again. What did Hine Rodriguez, the"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "former governor, capture on his camera?"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "Something incredible. We're looking at"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "it right now. Plasmic orb dancing across"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "the mountain side. What the heck is"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "going on here?"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "an incredible display of a light in"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "multiple angles. We're looking at"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "something that can't be explained. Give"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "it a big thumbs up right now right here"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "at Third Phase Moon. We've got a lot of"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "UFO videos, but look at this."}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "It just basically entered into the"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "ground"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "and came back out. And now we got"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "multiple lights climbing up the hill"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "here. Brett, what's your thoughts? Dang,"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "Blake. Look at this footage. We've, like"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "you just said, we have multiple angles"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "of this phenomenon happening and they're"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "incredible. The the sighting is beyond"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "explanation. What are we looking at?"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "Could this be some sort of plasmic ball"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "energy? I don't know. But again, I"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "believe this is 100% legitimate footage"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "right here. And Rodriguez pulled off a"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "great capture. Look, look at all these"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "angles of this event happening in real"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "time. Let's roll it one. Let's just roll"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "it once again."}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "I don't see any hiking trails. I don't"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "think this is a person or any kind of"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "automobile up there, a motorcycle. This"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "thing is levitating right alongside the"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "hills. And it seems that it has purpose,"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "intelligence behind it"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "when it's coming from an official, a"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "former mayor, um I think a former"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "governor of this town. Let's uh let's"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "put this into the number one in my"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "opinion legitimate. Like Brent says,"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "we're looking at something that can't be"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "explained. Guys, we want to get your"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "thoughts in this live premiere right"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "now."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "and you're listening to some of the Paul"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "Barrett's music in the background. It's"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "good about good to have Paul Barrett's"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "music in the background. Give a big"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "thumbs up for that as well. Now, more"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "UFO videos just into third phase moon."}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "Buckle up, guys. We've got a big episode"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "tonight. Check this out."}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "Wow. Look at this. more plasmic energy"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "just hitting and going right down the"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "street and back. I don't know. I I think"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "we're looking at legitimate footage here"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "once again. Look at the sparks come off"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "this thing."}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "Holy crap. Brett, what do you make of"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "this?"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "I like it a lot. It looks great. It just"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "flashes right past the camera angle"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "there. And then uh we see the shadows."}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "Everything's to be seems to be in uh"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "coordinates of of this being an actual"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "event, but I'm still leaning maybe"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "asking the the question here, could this"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "be AI?"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "You know, after looking at this and"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "we've done a lot of scrutiny on this"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "video before we posted it, we wanted to"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "make sure that we're bringing to you the"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "most legitimate UFO footage out there."}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "And we're deeming this looking pretty"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "damn good, guys. I want to get your"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "thoughts. Look at all the shadows."}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "Everything's matching up the the wet."}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "Let's see here."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "This thing must be I don't know. I don't"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "think it's sped up footage here. I think"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "we're looking at this in real time. The"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "thing has to be clocked at about 200"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "mph. Is it streams across the street"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "there? Yeah, it looks like something out"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "of the Back to the Future movie as a"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "Delorean just takes off. But look at"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "that thing that it's it's coming in fast"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "and it just changes direction and goes"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "the opposite the opposite way as it just"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "flies past the camera there."}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "It almost seems like it's a pyroch."}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "There's some sparks at the end of its"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "wake as it leaves sparks right there."}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "Look at that."}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "I don't know. This looks like a fast"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "walker. It's something out there and"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "it's unexplained. You wouldn't want to"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "be um on the street there and collide"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "into this thing. This thing's moving at"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "an extreme rate of speed."}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "All right, guys. I want to get your"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "opinions on this. The comments that you"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "leave really helps. Your opinions,"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "they're important to us. We want to know"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "what you guys think about these UFO"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "videos."}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "Now, more evidence just into third phase"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "of moon. Let's roll the next one right"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "now. Take a look."}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "All right, guys. It looks like we got a"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "Uso on our hands right now in this"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "video. A bluish orb just underneath"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "quite just about a foot underneath the"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "surface of the water. It peaks up above"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "the surface. But look at this thing."}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "Some kind of underwater submersible UFO."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "Guys, this is crazy footage here. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "this is insane. Uh we just heard Tim"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "Burgett recently say a couple weeks ago"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "that they're uh clocking these objects"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "underneath the water that move 200 m an"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "hour and are the size of a football"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "field. Again, what kind of technology"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "could propel themselves underwater so"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "fast? Again, we're looking at something"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "very cool. We see this bluish light just"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "kind of moving across uh the surface of"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "the ocean over there. I'm digging this"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "legitimate footage as well. It's looking"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "legit, guys."}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "I'm just looking really closely here. Do"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "you see some kind of wake as this thing"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "rips through the water here? Look at"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "there's a little slight disturbance, but"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "it seems to be almost a transmedium"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "craft that it cuts through the water and"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "it's just kind of displacing the water"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "without any kind of ripple effect."}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "Man, what a catch here. One more time,"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "let's get a close-up look."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "I'm wondering, is this a drone shot or"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "are they on a boat?"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "It almost looks like a drone shot. We're"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "trying to get some more details and"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "information on this video that just has"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "come into third phase. But guys, we want"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "to get your thoughts here. What is this"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "bluish illuminated object just right"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "under the surface of the water cutting"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "through? You almost see almost a tail of"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "some sort of the craft itself. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "sure."}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "Yeah, it's interesting how this video is"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "captured. Yeah, like I think you're"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "right. I think it's a drone. It's seems"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "to be pulling in and then the camera"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "pulls out and you can see this forward"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "motion. Definitely looks like a drone"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "shot. Great capture right here. What is"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "this? The phenomenon is kicking off"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "right now at third phase. This is"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "amazing stuff."}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "Is it biological in nature or is this"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "some kind of craft with unknown"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "propulsion just cutting through the"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "water"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "with this biolumance of light?"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "There's so many mysteries in our ocean."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "And I got a feeling there's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "alien UFO activity just underneath the"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "surface of the water here. It's this is"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "absolutely crazy footage that we're"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "looking at. Once again, guys, we want to"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "get your opinions. What the heck is"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "this?"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "All right, guys. More videos coming into"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "Third Phase, the phenomenon. It's"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "happening 24/7, and you're in the right"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "place. Third Phase of Moon shares it as"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "fast as possible. Now, let's get to the"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "next one. Right now, guys, take a look"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "at this."}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "This one's coming in from Brazil. Watch"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "All right. Um, I'm I'm getting some more"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "information. This video is actually"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "coming in from Portugal. The music was a"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "little loud. It looks like there was a"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "party going on and they had a lot of rap"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "music in the background. So, we had a"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "lower the the audio coming in from this."}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "But what you hear is like the people"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "going, \"What the heck is that?\" And"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "they're kind of in shock and they're"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "looking up there. People are amazed at"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "what they're looking at. Some kind of"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "unknown object in the sky just hovering"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "there. It's a pretty clear shot here."}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "Yeah, I would say about 30 40 ft above"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "the ground. And you see this kind of I"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "don't know. It's hard to describe, but"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "it's it's very curious. I don't see any"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "means of propulsion. It doesn't look"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "like a drone. It's no plane. And it it"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "just it's staying there as it just kind"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "of slowly rotates, kind of revealing"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "some sort of strange body to this craft."}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "Yeah. It has a little vector shape to"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "it. The shape of a V. Almost kind of"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "reminds me of the"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "I don't know. It's hard to make out."}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "These UFOs, they come in all shapes and"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "sizes, but look at this. No means of"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "propulsion whatsoever. It's just"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "hovering there in the sky."}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "Broad daylight. It doesn't get much"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "better than this. And what's going on in"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "Portugal? I think just a couple weeks"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "ago, we're sharing some videos from that"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "region. And now, once again, something"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "is being seen in the skies."}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "You can see these kind of points, these"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "sharp points of appendages right at the"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "bottom of this craft. It when you get a"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "closeup, there it is. And it's fairly"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "sharp. It looks somewhat metallic to me"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "as well."}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "It almost has this biologic uh look to"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "it. Uh strange stuff going on right"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "Yeah, it doesn't seem to be wavering"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "from left to right. It seems that"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "there's some weight to this. It's not"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "just like lighter than air blowing all"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "over the place or some kind of balloon."}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "This thing seems to be very stationary"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "in the sky with some kind of means of"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "it just seems that there's intelligence"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "behind it."}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "what could remain stationary in the sky"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "with this kind of shape. Again, this it"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "seems to morph a little bit and there's"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "these lights that kind of pop off of it."}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "All right, guys. What's your thoughts on"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "this one? Again, uh we've got a lot of"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "videos for you right here at Thirdphase"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "Moon. This one is coming in from Roondo"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "Beach. It was sent to my email. We"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "wanted to share it with you and we want"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "to get your thoughts. Apparently,"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "there's an orb that was captured in"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "close proximity to a commercial"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "airliner. Watch this."}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "This is coming in from Daniel Brandt"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "Nietto, uh, Roondo Beach, California."}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "Look at this."}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "All right, let's get a sideby-side"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "comparison and a closeup of this object."}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "There it is. Look at this. And then he"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "shoots over to the left. There's a"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "commercial airliner. He comes back to"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "the object, the unknown object right"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "Seems to be on a pretty decent rate of"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "speed. I imagine maybe 150, 200 miles an"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "hour up in the sky. Approximately, I"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "don't know, 6,000 ft at this moment."}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "But it's just an illuminated orb, an"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "object cruising along. But what's crazy"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "on how it gets into close proximity to"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "this commercial airline? I'm sure the"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "pilot saw this object. Was there an"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "invasive maneuver to avoid it? I'm not"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "I'm not sure about that. But look at as"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "this one airplane kind of comes up from"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "the right, I think. Let's see."}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "there. Look at this. That's some pretty"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "good uh proximity right there. Now, more"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "videos coming in from Brazil. Watch."}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "A cylindrical object in the sky. The"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "classic cigar- shaped UFO. Watch this."}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "Man, Brazil is a hot spot for UFOs, but"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "this broad daylight clear sighting of"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "the classic cigar- shaped craft is"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "unbelievable. I'm getting a closeup of"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "These have been seen for hundreds, if"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "not thousands of years. You've seen the"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "UFO cigar shape depicted in biblical and"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "historical historical u art"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "representations of the unknown object"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "right here. We're looking at it and it"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "is incredible footage."}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "Yeah, I like the way he gets a really"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "good closeup right here. And it's plain"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "as day, clear sight. Uh and we're seeing"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "this metallic cigar- shaped craft. It"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "doesn't look like a balloon. It's just"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "hovering there doing this slight"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "rotation."}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "Wow. What's going on in Brazil? It's a"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "It's just a hot spot."}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "All right, we've got a lot of"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "information coming up in the next"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "episode, but we wanted to let you know,"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "we worked really hard to put out these"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "documentaries. We go across the United"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "States to film them, and now we're able"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "to give you one for free. It's available"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "on Tuby right now. Now, it's our latest"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "documentary, Asymmetric Disclosure. The"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "link is below. Go watch it right now."}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "Here's the trailer for Asymmetric"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "Disclosure. Watch this."}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "So, you really have to have a select"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "committee in the Congress and a special"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "office in the White House to really"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "master all this information and unpack"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "it and then take the action to stand"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "down these malicious programs. And that"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "is going to be a very heavy lift and a"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "very dangerous operation."}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "The only way you're going to get to it"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "is somebody at the executive level that"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "says enough is enough. Cut the money"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "off. Bring these people in. Let's go."}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "Maybe just give them a threat, a very"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "light threat. Let them know like this is"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "not to be talked about any further. And"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "if you do, something can happen. You're"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "either on the side of the law or you're"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "not. And if not, which we can prove they"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "are, you strip them of all that cover."}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "All we need is one to be accurate. And"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "this whole concept of UFO crash"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "retrieval non-existing completely falls"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "apart."}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "They're doing stuff for spite. They're"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "doing stuff to protect certain"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "individuals or certain industries and"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "it's it's detrimental to all of us."}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "Oh yeah. People are all talking about"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "World War II and all that. Well, um you"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "know, if we don't change the trajectory"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "we're on, we're going to be in a big"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "problem. Nobody with any sense wants"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "fortune and glory dealing with this."}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "That's the mistake that they all make."}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "That's right. Asymmetric Disclosure is"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "available right now on Tuby for free."}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "You know, we just put this out a couple"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "months ago. Age of Disclosure. I think"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "they've been working on this documentary"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "for about 3 to four years. It's finally"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "going to come out. But what we shot,"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "asymmetric disclosures, up to date, just"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "shot a few months ago. We put it out on"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "Amazon and iTunes, but now we're able to"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "give it to you for free. You can watch"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "it tonight, right now on Tuby, the"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "world. You can watch the latest"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "up-to-date information, what's going on"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "in Washington DC, what's going on with"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "unacnowledge"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "uh programs. We've got Billy Carson in"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "there. We've got Dr. career, Michael"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "Strat, Congressman Tim Burchett,"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "aerospace historian Jim Goodall, it goes"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "on and on with uh the information."}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "Asymmetric Disclosure is a mustsee if"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "you're into disclosure and you want to"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "know what's going on, the dark side of"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "the coverup. It's all here in Asymmetric"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "Disclosure, the latest documentary ahead"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "of its time. Like I said, Age of"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "Disclosure, it's been I think they shot"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "this four years ago. It took him 4 years"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "to finally get out and it still hasn't"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "come out yet. So get your"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "disclosure on right now and go take a"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "look at asymmetric disclosure on Tuby."}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "The link is in the description. Now we"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "want to give a major shout out to uh a"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "fan who reached out to us and we we"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "looked at our messages and this popped"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "up. We're like what?"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "Dory Davis 5320 gave us a $500 super"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "chat right here. You know, you could"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "leave super chats after the program,"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "after you watch it, and this popped up."}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "And we want to give Doris Davis 5320 a"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "big shout out, a huge super chat, $500."}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "Thanks so much. It helps get these"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "documentaries out. That's for sure. And"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "the information. Wow, that's so"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "incredible. We appreciate that. And it"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "means so much. All this goes a long way."}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "It takes a lot of effort putting these"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "UFO uh you know, Thirdphase Moon"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "episodes out and all this. And thanks"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "again uh Doris Davis for your"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "generosity. We want to thank everybody"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "from around the world who just joined us"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "right here at Third Phase of Moon. And"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "if you caught anything amazing, submit"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "it to us right here. My email is in the"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "description. Keep your eyes on the"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "skies, everybody. We're not alone. We'll"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "see you next time."}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "Heat. Heat. N."}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "Third phase of moon."}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "Third phase of moon. Let's roll people. Let's roll."}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "Third phase of moon. Blake cousins here and we are live taking calls from around the world. We're going to roll and we're"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "going to get the reports from the people as usual. So, I'm glad that people are calling in and we are going to be able"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "to make some connections tonight. Let's hopefully we get some good UFO stories. Let's get started. Let's roll. 205. You"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "do you read me? Hey Blake, can you hear me? Gotcha. Gotcha. Well, first uh we're"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "talking to the public. Where are you calling from? Hey, uh can you hear me?"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "I got you. Loud and clear, sir. Hey, uh I'm Joe. Um huge fan. I love"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "what you do, man. You're great. Thank Uh, I have a I have a video. Uh, my girlfriend is not excited about the"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "ancient alien thing. She deleted off the phone, but it's on YouTube. And I And I just really would"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "like it if you could see what I've captured because it looks nothing like any plane I ever saw. It looks like a"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "white cigar shaped craft. And it just blew my mind. And there is an actual plane in the uh in the in this frame."}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "And like I know what a plane looks like, man. You know, and this [ __ ] scared me. And I mean it's It's been about a month"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "since I took it, but it's on YouTube. And if you could just help me figure out what it is. Absolutely. Let's pull it up. What's the"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "name of your YouTube channel, sir? Go slowly. Go ahead. Joe. Okay. Starting with"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "cigar shaped UFO. Joe, that last name is spelled J S O."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "J. Okay, let's uh let's pull that up if anybody could find that link and let's"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "get it in the chat so we can take a look. Flip it. Help me out. Help me out. Um All right."}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "But uh what So you're saying that you know what airplanes look like? And this isn't an airplane unlike"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "anything you've seen before, a cigar- shaped. So there is no wings on this craft whatsoever."}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "I did not see jets. I did not see wings. I did not see a jet stream. It's clear"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "in the video. In the video, I point up to another plane flying nearby. It has a jet stream. It's very hard to see. I"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "understand the the footage. It, you know, it's kind of sucks. It's not great, but it's there."}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "And I was excited about it. You know, I've been I believe in the ancient alien theory, you know, for many years. And I"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "finally saw something that blew my mind. Okay, we're trying to pull it up. I"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "think we got it right now. We We're going to pull it up and let me take a look. 30 seconds."}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "Okay, we got it. Joe Gusto cigar- shaped UFO Jesto, excuse me. Yeah, we got it. And"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "we're looking at your lens."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "You're breaking up, man."}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "Um, can you hear me? All right, we got the video"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "and we're getting some really We're back. Third phase moon. How's the audio now, guys? How's the audio? We're"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "there's a suppression going on right now and people are dropping off and we're"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "getting calls. We're going to play some music. Stand by everybody."}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "[Music] We have an unidentified object. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "Third phase of moon."}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "We have an unidentified object. Electric impulse blast right here at"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "Third Phase of Moon. We're getting broken in. And maybe the government's screwing. I'm not sure. This is crazy,"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "guys. Real bad. Real bad. And we're going to fight. We're going to fight. Third Phase of Moon is not going to go"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "anywhere if we could help it. Let's go to another caller. Let's see what's going on. How we coming in everybody?"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "Okay, phone calls are dropping out. 954, you're live. Third phase moon."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "Hey, how you doing? Hey, pretty good. Where are you calling from? What's your name? Hey Blake, um this is Asper. Um I'm"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "actually um in Atlanta, Georgia. All right, S. Bear with us. We're having some technical difficulties. Not sure"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "what's going on. Go ahead. What's going on? You got something to share? And just to give you just to give you an update, I I have my iPhone app and usually"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "that's how I listen to your cast, but I've been trying for over 30 minutes and it just won't let you listen to the your"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "show. So the only way I'm able to listen to it is by me calling you actually."}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "That is so strange. Yeah, it's really strange. Bizarre. You know, I open up with with the show"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "tonight saying that there's something really going on strange over there at Third Phase Moon and right now there's I"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "think there's some pressure going on. So, everybody refresh, go to the link."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "Go ahead. Just to share some few things from you. A big fan of yours. Major respect. Um"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "I've been a fan for over four years and this is the first time I actually get through it."}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "So, um Wow. Well, welcome to the show. I'm glad you made it. Have you ever witnessed a UFO for yourself?"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "Actually, I have so much to provide to you guys that I'm almost even afraid to even"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "um share it over email. It has to be something very private. I just want a lot of"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "to Nobody's going to know who you are, sir. We're We can keep your name suppressed. We just need to get the"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "information out because this really a caviar of things that are going on."}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "Um, first of all, just to say the least, uh, I feel a contact piece. Um, it's"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "nothing negative, nothing out of something that I would be afraid of. Um,"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "I've had so much experiences where even my house, uh, has been a witness to"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "what's going on. What I mean by that is about 3 years ago in South Florida in my"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "area outside by your home where you have the analog readers for your electricity"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "that was normally changing into the digital ones and I requested for not to"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "be changed cuz it was my own home. Anyways, the um digital reader was changed and um"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "I started having a lot of uh power surges within my house, burning equipments from fans to microwaves, even"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "my air conditioner. Um when I started smelling in the house for a few hours, I"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "started smelling some smoke and I thought maybe something else went out. When I went outside and looked at that"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "digital reader, actually the thing was melting, melting the plastic itself,"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "even inside the glass itself, you can see the the I guess the the"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "corrosion of the smoke within the the glass. But in between all this, I've"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "been having a lot of uh what would I call it? Encounters um from um even like handprints around"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "my walls. um bizarre vegetables growing outside my yard. Um"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "pictures galore that I can show you. Um even pictures that you would actually"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "see that they're trying to camouflage into the sky itself and you can actually see it. But"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "um there's just so much that that that I've been wanting to share with you guys. And"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "the last time I was I would say I don't want to say taken I guess invited."}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "Um, I remember being taken. Um, how I"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "remember being back in into our reality is said I fell into"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "my bed and bang myself against the edge of my bed and I could not focus for"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "almost three minutes and all I can see is um holograms across my my my my front"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "view for three minutes straight. Um, and I believe it's a message and and I need"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "to get across um anyone out there that we need to come together and maybe"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "provide further information. I'm an artist myself too. I draw a lot. Uh, so"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "I've had, like I said, many encounters for many years, but as of lately, I'm starting to put things together in"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "perspective and actually understand what's going on. But it's not definitely"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "I want to quote somebody else. It sounds like it's a cosmic disclosure, not a"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "government disclosure. So I just we really want to give you guys"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "so much prop because you are making this happen. You're giving us the power to make it happen."}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "Well, yeah. I think that's what exactly. You're right. Hey, thanks a lot, man. You know, we started this we started"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "this about five, six years ago or so. people send us some videos here and there. We started putting them up. We"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "started reporting on them. We started to interview the public. Then we we thought, well, let's get the people."}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "Let's get the people on. So, we started Skype interviews. Then we started this radio show. Then people are saying, hey,"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "this is quite amazing. And there's there's a lot of people that are starting this and they're getting the"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "word out as well. There's there's room for this. And that's a good thing. And I"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "think more more and more people are waking up around the world that we're not alone and that's that's the most"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "important thing and to have an open mind in what you're looking at. So third"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "phase moon is that service right now and I think there's no other place that"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "really talks to the people credits where credit is due and then everybody could"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "do their own homework check with the sources and reach out to them and share their story as well. Very important."}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "Everybody has to share. Everybody has to share the knowledge. Appreciate you calling in, man. Sure"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "would like to see your photos. Sure would like to see your photographs and drawings and drawings. We'd like to see"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "it all. Our contact information. Yep. Our contact information is on our"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "YouTube about page. My email's there, sir. So, we look forward to seeing your evidence. Maybe we could get you back on"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "the show. I definitely will. Thank you so much, guys. Thank you. Thank you. Wow. It's"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "It's quite amazing. Okay, so we got two callers. Let's see. We got two callers from the area code 214. I'm not sure if"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "they're uh related by any means, but let's let's bring in the first one. 214, you're live. Third phase of moon."}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "Hello 214, you there? We might have a delay. We might have a"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "hack. Let's go to another 214. See what's going on. Bring them on. Another"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "area code 214. Are you there? Hello. Hi. How you doing?"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "Good. How are you? I'm doing good tonight. I guess some issues. Technical big time technical"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "issues. Hopefully we stay on air right now. What's your name? Where are you calling from?"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "Yeah. Uh I like to remain anonymous, but I am from Texas uh Dallas area and um Okay. I have spoken on the show."}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "Yeah. one time before. Um, and I actually sent y'all a video of some"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "anomalies like bio-engineered clouds and also like extraterrestrial um an anomaly"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "that I captured on video too. An extraterrestrial anomaly. Is it a an"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "extraterrestrial or is it a anomaly? What makes you think it's extraterrestrial? And was it"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Well, like I used to believe like in extraterrestrials, but um after what I captured like I mean"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "this anomaly is not it has no shape. It has no form and so yeah like from that"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "conclusion I don't really believe in like extraterrestrials per se anymore. I"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "believe in just like I mean just energies like negative positive ones"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "that are spiritual and I believe like and you took a photograph of this."}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "Yeah, I took a video and I got still images of these anomalies, the cloud and this uh this black shapeless"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "anomaly. All right. Well, why don't you go to my about page and uh go to my contact email"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "and we sure like to see it. Send us some links. Upload the videos to YouTube. Send me a link."}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "Yeah, I actually did. I I uh did all that already. I think we had some correspondence. I just haven't seen the"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "uh video on your channel yet. Gotcha. Gotcha. You know, we get a lot of videos. We get a lot of videos. Did"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "you post it to our Facebook? Um no. I I can do that though. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "post it on our uh Facebook at our visitor uh page. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. We want to get all the evidence in. We can't share it all on"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "Third Phase of Moon YouTube, but we got our Facebook Third Phase of Moon and there's a visitors post there and it is"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "quite amazing what comes in. What comes in sometimes is quite shocking to say"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "the least. 575, let's bring you on. Did we bring 575 on? I think we did. Let's"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "Let's go for a Let's roll the dice here. Let's roll the dice. Let's go for anonymous caller here. It's coming in."}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "Anonymous. Anonymous just broke down. Anonymous had to go. Let's bring it."}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "There's a lot of callers in. They're lining up. So, let's go into 469. You're live. Third phase moon. Welcome to the"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "show. Hey Blake, can you hear me? Gotcha. Gotcha. Coming in. Claire, where"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "are you calling from? Hey, I'm coming I'm calling from Dallas, too. That other fell uh 214, he's calling from Dallas as well. I'm glad"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "you called. Is he still on the line? Yeah, he is. He is. You got some questions for him?"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "Well, no, no, no. Not really questions. I mean, I think I got the same thing that he saw cuz I'm in Dallas, too."}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "And about a week ago, cuz I I I got a telescope now. I've been looking at the moon. Um I uh I've been, you know,"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "keeping my eyes to the skies and keeping my camera ready and I have this black shapeless object. It's just moving"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "through the sky. I got it on film. Uh this time I grabbed my camera and I got it, you know, in the film. I was kind of"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "shaky, but I do have it in uh two videos and it's black and it's shapeless. And I"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "I talked to you probably about a month ago on a show. Um uh I was the second"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "caller. Uh I had seen, you know, a UFO from Shriport, Louisiana. And this thing"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "that I'm seeing now doesn't look like the ship, you know, the ship ship. Like"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "I've seen the ship chip that you can't take pictures of. You can't nobody makes"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "it away from the thing with footage. The phone dies. It you know I I have seen that one. But this little thing that's"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "around here ain't that. Wow. What's going on over at Dallas in Texas? It's a"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "big state. A lot of UFO sightings. We we get I'd say maybe a one every year out"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "of Texas. It's maybe more. Maybe a little bit more. I know we we have about a dozen videos from Texas on third phase"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "of moon and what do you think these things are?"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "These aren't, like I said, I saw the ship, you know, all all BS to the side."}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "I've seen the ship ship. The ship that's been talked about for years. And this"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "thing that I got on video ain't the ship. It's like small little bitty. It's smaller than the ship. And it's just"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "shapeless, you know? It doesn't have a shape. I thought it was a balloon. I thought it was a balloon, but I saw it"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "I saw it in somebody else's footage on YouTube. Like within the past week, I saw it on their footage. I'm like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "man. There it is.\" So, it's floating around here. Whatever it is, it's around"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "here, man. I mean, I got it. I'm gonna send you the video. I got it. Send it, man. Send it to our Facebook. That's"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "what I want. I want to see it over there. And then, uh, what's going on over Dallas, Texas? Anybody seen"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "anything strange going on over there lately? Send it over. send it over to our third phase moon Facebook cuz"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "there's a community out there and the community is what makes us strong. We all unite together. Let's uh thanks"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "caller from Dallas. Let's get some more callers. Let's get some more. 503, you're live."}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "Third phase of moon. Hi."}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "Hello. Yep. Welcome to the show. You calling from Portland, Oregon? No, I'm actually in Salem, Oregon."}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "Okay, cool. Welcome to the show. What's your name, sir? My name is Aldo."}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "Welcome to the show. Any uh anything you want to share tonight to the third phase moon listeners?"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "Uh since uh so my whole life since I was"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "younger, I've always seen identified flying objects around around Salem"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "around the airport. Uh, what kind of unidentified flying objects? What do they look like?"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "They're triangle shaped. They're black. Um, wow. Do you have any on video? Have you"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "photographed them? Videotaped them? Uh, no. I've I've photographed some uh"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "drones over my house steadily um"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "steadily flowing there. I'm seeing black hawks. feel like"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "like uh being kind of watched, I'll say."}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "Um cuz it was around this area, Blackhawks with uh they flash this"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "illuminescent light back at the house like once in a while. And uh really"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "creeps me out. We sure what they're up to."}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "It's a big question. Are we being watched? Yeah, there drones all over the place watching us. Are uh what's the"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "agenda? Well, that's the big question. Not exactly sure. Not exactly sure. Have"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "your cameras ready when those triangular craft come by, though. We want to see those. All right. Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "Get some footage. Yeah, please, man. Please. All right, let's get to another caller. Appreciate the call in from Salem, Oregon. Whatever"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "is going on over there next to an airport. TR3B's flying by. doesn't surprise me one single bit. 63, you're"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "live. Third phase of moon. Welcome to the show. You're live. Call calling in. Hello."}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "Hey, how's it going? Ah, pretty good. Pretty good. Looking for a good story though. You got one for"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "us. Where are you calling from? Um, I'm calling from uh Conquered New Hampshire"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "tonight. Right. Welcome to the show. Well, thank you. Uh first I wanted to uh just briefly um uh sort of concur uh"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "with the earlier gentleman who spoke about uh black shapeless craft that he"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "witnessed. Uh the very first craft I ever ever witnessed I've had three sightings I"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "believe but the first one was about a decade ago and it was just the same sort of thing. Um me and one of my friends"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "witnessed it over a park one day. Um, and it was high up in the sky and it"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "almost was like a a giant black trash bag or something like that, but it was"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "flying on course at a pretty slow pace um in direction and and it just didn't"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "have an exact shiplike shape. Uh, but it was one of the stranger things I had witnessed up to that point."}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "Um but uh my latest sighting was probably"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "uh a couple of months ago. Um All right. Okay. Hold on a sec. We're"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "getting a lot of callers in from Texas. But yeah, we got a lot of 214s. We're going to get to them. See what this is"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "all in relation to. But yeah, let's hear your latest one. Where? When? Uh about a couple of months ago here in"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "New Hampshire. And there have been a lot of sightings reported in our uh patch online and all of that. Um so there's"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "been a lot of activity reported. Um but I know that you had had um when you did"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "your video on the the Russian alien uh corpse thing. Um there was a a piece"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "from Steven Greer on that. Um, and I used some of his uh meditation"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "uh focused uh calling and I actually witnessed uh craft that way very"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "quickly. Uh and it happened so quickly it kind of spooked me a little bit. I didn't feel fearful fearful of the ship"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "itself. Uh but the fact that um"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "that that that uh practice actually worked uh quickly for me uh surprised me."}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "You know, that's always a cool thing when you ask for them to appear and when they do in a matter of seconds or"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "minutes, man, it that's uh quite exciting, I'd have to say. Yes. Yeah, definitely."}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "Well, it's there. Everybody has the power. All you got to do is I guess invite them. Invite them. Look for them."}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "The main thing is have your eyes out there because they're out there all the time. You just got to look. You got to"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "look for them people and then they will be there. Let's get to uh let's go to"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "Texas. Texas. I don't know what's going on over there. We got two 214 callers."}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "We got another 214. Let's bring them both on. Welcome 214s."}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "Hello. Yeah. Hello. Yeah. Okay. We got them both. Let's go with the first."}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "Where you calling from? Hey, how's it going? You got from Texas?"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "Okay, let's go. Let's go one at a time. What's going on over in Texas? Welcome to the show."}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "Hello. Okay. Yep."}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "Go ahead. Believe in UFOs. Your brother believes in UFOs?"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "How about you? My brother don't believe in UFOs. What about you, sir?"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "Uh, I believe in them. That's cool. So, what's going on? Have you seen one"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "recently in Texas? Uh, yes, my cousin did."}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "Your cousin saw one? Okay. What did he see, sir?"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "Hello. Caller 214 dropped out. Let's go to the other 214."}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "214, you there? Hey, Blake. Hey, callers are dropping out."}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "Hello. What' you see? Yeah. Where you calling from, sir? You're calling from Texas, too, right? Yeah, I'm calling from Garland."}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "Okay, man. Well, welcome to the show. So, yeah, I was I I hear all the stuff"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "about the UFOs out here in Texas or whatever. That was pretty cool because I've been seeing a lot of stuff over"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "here in Garland as well. Wow. What What What have you been witnessing over there?"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "The basically the same thing. Like a black It's like a ball [ __ ] you know?"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "Yeah. Black. What? Now this is getting crazy."}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "Yeah. I actually sent pictures of it to y'all on Facebook. So"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "y'all actually have pictures. Well, if I get a picture of a black"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "shapeless UFO, it's like, oh, I get a lot of those. But when you get a bunch"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "of them coming in from Texas all at the same time, now that's something strange."}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "That's a story there."}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "Uh-oh. Another 214 dropped."}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "Okay, something's getting weird here. Anybody else from Texas want to call in"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "about black shapeless UFOs? Okay, we're going to get some more"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "callers. Let's bring in more callers. This is getting kind of exciting, guys. 972, you're live. Third phase moon,"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "welcome to the show. Hello. Hello. Yep. Get closer to the mic. I"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "can't hear you. What? Hello. Hello. Got to get closer."}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "Can you hear me now? I can't hear you. Can you hear me now?"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "Can I hear you now? Hello. Uhoh. Okay, you got two seconds to fix a"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "mic or I'm going to have to get to the next caller. Uh-oh. Another dropout."}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "Maybe this is a Maybe there's something really going on here like I thought. Did I get too Let's"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "bring in some other callers. Let's go to a 619. Let's bring in 619. I think it's in San Diego. You're live."}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "Hey Blake, how's it going? How you doing, Kelly? It's kind of weird. What's going on tonight?"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "All these calls. I was just listening to the guys talking about shapeless. I don't know. Kind of."}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "I mean, everything's got a shape, but I mean, more or less like, you know, something that's maybe that they're not"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "used to seeing different, you know, like so-called round or triangle shape. But"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "I've seen videos something like that uh coming out of uh Mexico. It was one it"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "looked like a bag like like one guy was saying like a black bag. But the thing you could tell it was like being"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "operated, you know, kind of I don't know if you seen it kind of like goes through the city and then it like kind of goes"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "down. It goes through the buildings. I mean, like along the buildings, you know, and then next, you know, whoever's"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "filming is kind of like watching this thing go through, you know, kind of lower. It's going down into this, you"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "know, like the small towner or something. And then next thing you know, it just kind of drops lower into it just"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "disappears behind the building, which is kind of kind of odd because, you know, I've seen videos like that as well."}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "Whoa. Yeah. You know what's kind of crazy that I think I know exactly the video you're talking about. It's It's"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "weird that the cameraman has a really steady hand and he's watching whatever this black shapeless object just drift"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "around through the through the Mexican buildings over there through the city and it really looks like it's"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "intelligently controlled. It was really fascinating video. We did share that on third phase of moon and uh Jimeitz I"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "think was the one that shared that with us and it was quite incredible footage. Let's see, you know, this black"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "shapeless figure or whatever being sided over Texas all of a sudden. It's kind of"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "strange. I think four callers within the past 3 minutes are talking about the same thing and all the callers"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "were dropped out. They're dropped out. Could it be uh that same figure from Jack's Ranch that some kind of this"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "black humanoid drone of some sort following spying on"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "the people? I'm not exactly sure. It's all I got to say is there's some really weird stuff going on"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "and all of a sudden we're getting suppressed over here at Third Phase Moon when we're talking about it cuz I think"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "we're right on the verge of disclosure here and then something's going on. You know what? Everybody stand by. Let's"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "let's get back to where we started and we'll be back in just a couple minutes. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "Heat. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "Heat. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat."}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "[Music] [Applause]"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "Heat. Heat. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "Third Phase Moon, Blake Cousins, and I'm listening to Paul Barrett's tracks right now, and it's quite rocking, and I'm"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "listening to them on the sound in tone, and it's called the Alien Microphones."}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "We're going to be sharing the link on that. It's uh I'm I'm really happy with this quality. It sounds so clear. Quite"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "amazing. The links are there. And this alien headphone called the sound in tone"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "is quite amazing. I'm going to put the link in for everybody uh to check it out if they want to listen to way third"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "phase of moon should be listened to. And there it is. And we're going to be sharing links. So let's move along."}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "Let's move along to the public and see what's going down."}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "We still have Kelly and he might have questions for people that might have"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "UFO encounters. Let's get to it. 469, you're live. Third"}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "Phase of Moon. Welcome to the show. Hey, can you hear me? I got you. I got you. Where you calling"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "from? Can you hear me? No, no, this this is Can you hear me, Blake?"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "Yeah, I got you. You're listening in? Yeah, this this the same guy that was calling earlier about the black thing"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "here in Dallas. Yeah. Yeah, these that guy in Garland, he's right there next to me."}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "Really? Garland is like Yeah, I swear Garland is across the street. If I walk across the street, I'm in Garland and"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "I'm in Dallas and the shape it it doesn't look like that. You you the"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "footage recently from Jack's Ranch with the uh humanoid guy looks like he's in"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "the actual ship thing. That's not That's not what's that's not it. This thing is not a crab. It's black. It"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "doesn't have a reflection. It it it looks like it has a tether. It I I'm I'm"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "being all honesty here, you know, for the listeners and for all the people, all the doubters and non-believers, you"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "know, I I see people in the in the in the chat line here thing that's, you know, saying, \"Oh, it's just, you know,"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "coincidentally that the guys from Dallas calling.\" No, you know, no, that's not what it is, man. You know, we really"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "seeing something out here. There is, you know, and I'm I'm I'm looking I'm going through my computer right now getting"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "the footage right now so I can email it to you so that you can go ahead get it over there."}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "We got another Let me let me let me go ahead and work on this. I'm going to get off the line. Let me go ahead and work on getting you this footage real quick."}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. Two uh we got the 214 back or another 214. You there?"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "Hello. Yeah. So, yeah. Are you go ahead? I think you dropped"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "out. that we're we're getting or something. Go ahead. All right. So, yeah, I I have um"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "multiple things. I've seen uh two um I've seen the black dot anomaly myself"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "in Texas, but I've also seen this blue orb like fly in through like a portal"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "and then like after I recognized it and saw it and someone who was with me too saw it, after we both saw it, like it"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "flies back into like a dark portal. And this is all in Texas. But um I think"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:43", "text": "like whatever these things are, which I personally think are demons, I think they're working with the government with"}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "their technologies like Blue Beam and just overall to just deceive the masses for their satanic agenda. That's what I"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "think it is at the end of the day. Well, you know, it it is uh something to"}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "contemplate for sure of what we're uh what everybody's witnessing in regards to UFO phenomenon in general. Some are"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "explainable, some are unexplainable. And we're into the ones that are unexplainable people."}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "And that's what I think we do at Third Phase Moon. Share the pretty much best UFO footage. We have the biggest archive"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "of UFO videos on the planet because nobody trusts Muon and everybody knows"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "when they share it to third phase moon credit's going to be given to the person that shot it and that's important."}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "There's too much there's too much copy paste click"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "journalism going on nowadays. People got to do their homework. They got to talk to the people."}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "You know what? Let's bring in F1. F1's here. F1, welcome to the show."}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "How you doing, Blake? Pretty good. Pretty good. Things are getting a little bit clearer on the show. It's a little bit rolling"}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "smoother. We're coming up in uh we're coming up in July to California. So, we're going to"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "meet with you, Efflant. It's going to be fun. Well, I'll be here. You know me. I'm here. Um I talked with Betsy today."}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "She's at a really cool thing in uh just in Minneapolis. I guess they're having a giant symposium with um many people that"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "are in the know. Travis Walton is a guest speaker tonight. Um they have a lot of people from coast to coast and"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "some other well-known people in the industry and it's a three-day symposium"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "in Minneapolis. I believe that's coming to Los Angeles here next month."}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "So, I didn't know about that. But I I did not I did Hey, Betsy. How you doing?"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "Well, I'm okay now. I'm just walking out the door. Um uh just been hanging out with uh Dolan"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "and Travis Walton and it's been a fun week and it goes till"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "Sunday and uh they have lots of speakers and uh learning a lot and uh Travis has"}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "got a new movie out and really telling the real story and um"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "so really interested in my pictures and uh just been kind of"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "you know what's kind of cool. Yeah, that's cool. You spoke to Dolan, Richard Dolan and uh yeah, we've had him on the"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "show and Travis Walton. We've had him on the show, too. It's been a couple years though. Anything new? What' you walk"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "away with? Anything finding out new? Because that's what I like is new stuff. Oh, there's there's so much new stuff"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "going on. And I mean, with all their new books and all of these speakers, there's over 30 speakers speaking. Um, it's a"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "4-day event. Um, I'm selling my jewelry there. I'm doing well. Um,"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "just it's really amazing. I mean, the stories Travis Travis has got a brand"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:37:02", "text": "new movie out that just was released. um made on his terms, not on, you know,"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:08", "text": "TV's terms, you know, the TV version of what they made it out to"}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:13", "text": "be. It's his version. And tonight he just talked about um the graves that"}, {"start": "00:37:13", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "took him that he was gone for 5 days and um there was humans that were involved"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "and um very interesting. Um, I had dinner with"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "them all and um, breakfast with them all and they're like the coolest people in"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "the world. Really? They are. Really are. And very wonderful human beings and uh, very"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "honest. Isn't it kind of cool when it's pretty neat too because you you've had experiences and then when you get to"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "speak with I'd say you know abductee Travis Walton and when you're looking at him what how do you how do you perceive"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "being around a person that's been abducted says what he has you're totally it's"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "kind of strange because you're like wow this guy's been somewhere right you must be kind of over he's been he's been somewhere and"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "you know I mean he's he's taken some of jewelry and he really appreciates what"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "I've done and um he's been through a lot you know he didn't ask for this you know"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "he didn't ask become you know what's happened to him I mean it happened and um and I still think"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "things are happening to him but he's not going to talk about it he doesn't want to become famous he doesn't he doesn't"}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "ask for this um you know when you really sit down and you talk to some of these people for"}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:44", "text": "hours. You we're there for 12 hours a day for the last three days that you get"}, {"start": "00:38:44", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "a really different perspective on everybody on everybody sees things, you"}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "know, and everyone goes, \"Oh, they're demons and this and that.\" Well, you know what? We're not the only ones here."}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "And um people have small minds and um it's really an expansion of um"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "just your mind and experiencing all kinds of different things. I mean they"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:19", "text": "have everything from geometry to archaeology to you know um you know how the Sphinx was"}, {"start": "00:39:19", "end": "00:39:25", "text": "built and you know and you know how everything ties together um genetics to"}, {"start": "00:39:25", "end": "00:39:34", "text": "um you know how we were created and um it it it's it's really mindopening and um"}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:39", "text": "it's probably the best experience I've ever done. Sure. You know what these these these"}, {"start": "00:39:39", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "symposiums they have something to them you know these people gather around and there's symposiums of these speakers"}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "these eupfologists these researchers these experiencers and you know let me"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "tell you there is some information going on over there's"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "information because the people get together and then they feel comfortable talking to each other once they're in a"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "kind of a circle like this and we're in the circle right now we're in the circle live together."}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:17", "text": "We're ready to break news. So, let's do it. 253, you're live. Third phase of the moon. Welcome to the show."}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:25", "text": "253, you there? Okay."}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "Well, we'll we'll move on. I just want to ask Becky, is is this a event free to the public or do you have to pay?"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "Oh, it's it's you have to pay. You have to pay. Ah, well, you know,"}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "third phase of moon and we put it out there for free. You just all you got to do is watch it and it's up there,"}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "you know, the symposium and go ahead. You're you're you're learning you're"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "learning a lot. You're you're really learning a lot of information about archaeology to geometry to the Sphinx to"}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "how everything the genetics of those how we were created to the giants to"}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "everything everything um goes together and I'm going to tell you"}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "what this is a real eye opening thing and this is you know there's only a couple that go around in the world and"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "um I'm glad that It's here in my state and um I'm glad to be part of it and I'm"}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:28", "text": "glad I was asked to be part of this and um matter of fact they're coming out to"}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:36", "text": "my house but um it's um it's a great thing and um I just got home and um they"}, {"start": "00:41:36", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "were I was waiting they were waiting to speak to you but you know I had to leave and uh you know it's late here in"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:47", "text": "Minnesota and um I don't know if they're going to be there all weekend. So, um,"}, {"start": "00:41:47", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "anybody that's out in Minnesota, come on out and join us and, uh, you'll learn a"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "lot. What, Betsy? What you should do is videotape your adventures. Interview these people"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "and we'll Oh, good. Send it to me. Send it to me. Get me the interviews. We'll put it up"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:10", "text": "for free on Third Phase Moon. Oh, yeah. They're these people are the nicest"}, {"start": "00:42:10", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "people and they're so genuine and um it's amazing what you really can learn."}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "I mean, just I know you're free everyone, you know, I mean, but you got to pay to get in sometimes. And and the"}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:30", "text": "fun thing about this is that at Templar Lodge, so we're even learning about the Freemasons and all kinds of crazy"}, {"start": "00:42:30", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "things. I bet I bet it is a lot of fun. And you know, there's nothing wrong with paying"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "and exclusives, getting good information, but you know, some of these guys, they got to sell a book. They got"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:52", "text": "to sell a DVD. Yes, I could understand that. But we at Third Phase, I don't know. We"}, {"start": "00:42:52", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "only sell Third Phase of Moon music. Paul Barrett's music's pretty good. You got to admit it. You got to admit it's"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "pretty good. And it's on iTunes, but it's free when you want to watch it on YouTube. Third Phase of Moon. We play"}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "it all the time, people, and we play it on our radio show. There's a lot of callers, so let's get to it. Let's Let's"}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:16", "text": "see if we can get to them. Yeah, you there. 253. Yep. Welcome to the show. Yeah, I'm here."}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "Thank you. Yeah. Hi. This Are you there? Yeah, I am. Where are you calling from,"}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "sir? All right. I'm sorry. I put the phone down. I'm calling from Washington State. Okay. Welcome to the show."}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:36", "text": "I just Thank you. I was just gonna throw a little spin on things. Um Sure. Uh it's a little sideways uh step"}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "here to the show, but uh you know they uh they they talk about aliens may have"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "brought the the big humanoid beast we call Bigfoot. Uh there's there's, you"}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:58", "text": "know, people say that it's possible that aliens had brought them here or maybe"}, {"start": "00:43:58", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "they've have been here over years and years and years. But um there is a I was"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "just going to ask you if you've uh uh caught drift of a YouTube channel called"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:16", "text": "um what is it uh crypto reality"}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "uh on YouTube and there's a guy down in uh Florida uh West Palm Beach his name"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:29", "text": "is Mark Zanski and he has discovered a complete"}, {"start": "00:44:29", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "uh family of uh big Sasquatches and he has uh taken it to the um uh the"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:47", "text": "game department there. And of course they wouldn't talk to him until one specific person"}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:52", "text": "uh uh uh he was brought to to him and"}, {"start": "00:44:52", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "could say is where did you see it? And um uh I just wondered, have you uh"}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:04", "text": "have you heard anything about this?"}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:12", "text": "Uh you know, the Bigfoot thing. I've I've had I've heard of that channel and I think he's reached out to me and I"}, {"start": "00:45:12", "end": "00:45:19", "text": "might actually interview the guy. You know, we're looking for good evidence, solid solid evidence when it comes to Bigfoot. It's got to be real solid."}, {"start": "00:45:19", "end": "00:45:26", "text": "There's a lot of videos out there. some of the some of the footage he has though with all his videos. Uh he does have"}, {"start": "00:45:26", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "some video with them in the brush and you know"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:39", "text": "you're in Washington, right? Yeah. You live in Washington. Well, yeah. Why don't you if you can reach out to"}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "him and tell him, hey, you know what? Blake Cousins from Thirdphase Moon asked me to contact you and he wants to speak"}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:52", "text": "to you on Thirdphase Moon, share your footage and maybe we could collaborate. I got a lot on my table, but if you"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "could help me out, Matt, I sure would appreciate it. I'll do that. I'll do that. Uh I don't I"}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:07", "text": "feel like it kind of ties in a little bit with what you're doing. Absolutely. And I'm looking for good footage in regards to anything in weird"}, {"start": "00:46:07", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "creatures, cryptozoolology, Bigfoot, sea creatures, interviews, good evidence. We'll we'll uh be more than"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "happy to have him on the show. And you represent us, sir. Please. And my email is"}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:26", "text": "You got my email in the about page at YouTube. Yep. Yep. Thank you, sir. No,"}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:32", "text": "that's what I like. I like collaboration. We need collaborators around the world. If you got a UFO story you want to share, there's something"}, {"start": "00:46:32", "end": "00:46:38", "text": "amazing you found on Google, something crazy on NASA, you could be a Third Page Moon correspondent as well. Make your"}, {"start": "00:46:38", "end": "00:46:46", "text": "own videos. You could be the host. You make your own analysis of whatever you're looking at."}, {"start": "00:46:46", "end": "00:46:52", "text": "Share it to us at Third Phase Moon. And we'll even post it up on third phase of moon and you could be who knows the next"}, {"start": "00:46:52", "end": "00:46:57", "text": "big big voice"}, {"start": "00:46:57", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "sharing the truth to the world. You are the public and the public has so much"}, {"start": "00:47:02", "end": "00:47:09", "text": "power people. So much. Let's go to 301. You're live. Third phase of moon."}, {"start": "00:47:09", "end": "00:47:14", "text": "Hi. Yes. This is uh Blake Ramos from Frederick, Maryland. Blake."}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:20", "text": "Yeah. Hey, how's it going? Same name. Um, it's going pretty good. Cool name. Cool name."}, {"start": "00:47:20", "end": "00:47:26", "text": "Yeah. Um, well, actually, this story comes from Katiesville, Maryland. I'm not living there now,"}, {"start": "00:47:26", "end": "00:47:32", "text": "but I was working on my car late at night, and this had gone on for like a year, though. I had seen these two"}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:39", "text": "lights, big circular lights, off in the distance, probably like 200 yards away from the house above the tree line. And"}, {"start": "00:47:39", "end": "00:47:45", "text": "they were always there every single night. like it didn't matter what night it was, you know, the constellations"}, {"start": "00:47:45", "end": "00:47:53", "text": "changed, but these things were always there every single night. Well, I'm working on my car with my girlfriend at the time outside and all of a sudden"}, {"start": "00:47:53", "end": "00:47:59", "text": "there there's something in like the trees right there in front of my house. There's like a tree line, pine trees"}, {"start": "00:47:59", "end": "00:48:06", "text": "that block off the street. It's a Route 40. Well, it's a highway. Well, it blocks off the uh highway. And"}, {"start": "00:48:06", "end": "00:48:13", "text": "there was something in the trees. We could hear it. So, I like turned around and I I can't explain this voice. It was"}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:20", "text": "like almost like a like a rooster and a monkey put together or just something so"}, {"start": "00:48:20", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "blood curdling and it was like laughing. I don't know what it was. We freaked out. Couldn't move. As you can tell, I'm"}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:34", "text": "like my voice is shaky just talking about it. Um Sure. Sure. Like it was it was really freaky, man."}, {"start": "00:48:34", "end": "00:48:41", "text": "I've never heard anything like that. It was the scariest thing I've ever heard in my life. And I hear it again."}, {"start": "00:48:41", "end": "00:48:47", "text": "Did anybody Oh, wow. I can imagine. There was one time, get this. It's so weird that you bring this up, right?"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:53", "text": "I was sleeping in a old national state park cabin. I think this place was"}, {"start": "00:48:53", "end": "00:48:58", "text": "overund years old to kill away a volcano when I was very young."}, {"start": "00:48:58", "end": "00:49:05", "text": "And some crackling, tackling voice and it it said Blake. And I'm like, what the"}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:11", "text": "seriously? Seriously, a similar voice, right? And you know what's what's even scarier"}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "about this situation was as we turned around and looked at the trees, you get that eerie feeling of something looking"}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:24", "text": "at you. You know what I mean? Um, so we're staring at the tree line, not frozen, like we couldn't move. I don't I"}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:31", "text": "can't understand it. Like we wanted to run inside. The house is like 10 yards away. We could not move. I looked to"}, {"start": "00:49:31", "end": "00:49:37", "text": "her, she couldn't speak. We couldn't speak. and we couldn't move. And all of a sudden, we hear the same exact thing"}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "right behind us. We turned around, nothing there."}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:47", "text": "It's almost like they're cloaked or something."}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "H Yeah. So, right after we heard it in the treeine, we looked there and then right behind us was the same loud voice like"}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:50:01", "text": "right in our ears. Were there two of them, you think? Oh, two of whatever."}, {"start": "00:50:01", "end": "00:50:06", "text": "I think they were like like acknowledging that we saw them and"}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:11", "text": "that they were like you you knew you can hear us but you're not going to see us"}, {"start": "00:50:11", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "like playing with us. You know what I mean? I don't know if they're"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:24", "text": "and that's not even the only thing that's happened. Like I was in my room playing video games and I had a black"}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:29", "text": "light on. It was a really big black light, right? Well, I'm sitting there playing video games. I look over to my"}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:34", "text": "left and I can see this outline of something in my room. Like it almost"}, {"start": "00:50:34", "end": "00:50:40", "text": "looked like the predator cloak and I just like looked over at it and it"}, {"start": "00:50:40", "end": "00:50:48", "text": "was just standing there and it must have been like five or 10 feet away in my room and I just froze. There was"}, {"start": "00:50:48", "end": "00:50:55", "text": "nothing. I You know what I mean? What are you going to do when you see something like that? What are you going to do? You're going to stare down. It's like staring down."}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:51:01", "text": "I didn't even want to look at it kind of. Yeah. You almost want to act like you want to play like you're dead."}, {"start": "00:51:01", "end": "00:51:07", "text": "Almost like don't look at me. Like roll over and play dead like like oh my god I see this thing but it's not."}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:14", "text": "And like you're a grown man and then you're a grown man one second and then the next second you're like a little"}, {"start": "00:51:14", "end": "00:51:22", "text": "feeble you feel like you have no control whatsoever. Yeah. And like there's a couple other"}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:27", "text": "instances where I'd be in my house and I would hear something calling my name like you were saying and it was in the"}, {"start": "00:51:27", "end": "00:51:34", "text": "same cackling like rooster monkey voice. It's like the scariest thing you can ever hear in your life, man. I swear it is."}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:41", "text": "Like I've I've heard lions up close and you know any kind of animal up close at the zoo. This thing does not compare to"}, {"start": "00:51:41", "end": "00:51:47", "text": "that. But you know this is it's pretty amazing. I'm talking to a guy named"}, {"start": "00:51:47", "end": "00:51:53", "text": "Blake and I had this experience and I swear to God I tell my friends about this ghostly experience, this weird"}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:51:59", "text": "noise and let me tell there's some weird things that happened after that to me as well. And you're there's a guy named"}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:05", "text": "Blake that has the same weird weird stuff going on. All I got and it hasn't stopped."}, {"start": "00:52:05", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "We're closing up the show, Blake. And uh but man, that's it's"}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:17", "text": "Thank you for calling in because it's quite amazing that there's not only one Blake on this planet that has that kind of"}, {"start": "00:52:17", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "thing going on. I've heard it before. I don't want to ever hear it again either, dude. I seriously I don't ever want to"}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:28", "text": "hear it again. Exactly. It was And it was loud. Like so loud. Like"}, {"start": "00:52:28", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "almost blood like busting your eardrums loud."}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:41", "text": "Wow. It quite incredible people. Quite incredible. Uh, you know what? This radio show kicked off at the end and we"}, {"start": "00:52:41", "end": "00:52:48", "text": "got to hear about strange black formations, strange UFO anomalies over Texas. We're going to be sharing this on"}, {"start": "00:52:48", "end": "00:52:55", "text": "Third Phase Moon tonight. We're breaking it down. We're breaking the public's word down. We're getting the word out."}, {"start": "00:52:55", "end": "00:53:02", "text": "Third Phase of Moon, your source to share your UFO footage to the world. Blake Cousins, keep your eyes on the"}, {"start": "00:53:02", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "skies, everybody. We'll see you again next time."}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:15", "text": "[Music] [Applause]"}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:23", "text": "[Music] Third"}, {"start": "00:53:23", "end": "00:53:28", "text": "space of"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "Third phase. 702, you're live. Third phase moon."}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "Welcome to the show. Is it me? Yeah, it's you."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "How you doing, sir? It's a girl. My name is Chalice."}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "Hey, sorry about that. Chalie. No, Chalice. Like the cup that Jesus"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "drank out of the chalice. Oh, Chalice. Yeah, that's a pretty name. Chalice. Thank you very much. It's an honor to"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "meet you. I've been listening to you for years. I have quite a story and I hope that"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "people would really enjoy listening to it. Absolutely. When I was like um"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "I was 5 years old and um a dog bit me and my dad was in the Navy and I didn't"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "know. I knew he was a general and he built ships and things like that. I lived at Long Beach and they uh they"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "took me on this ship and that was the beginning of my whole life changing. When I was 10 years old, I was told that"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "I had to do these things and I got to meet things and do things. I found out my father worked at Area 51."}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "But when they did the surgeries on my face, it was different than what most people see. And it was pretty"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "miraculous. As St. Bernard bitten tore my face to pieces. I was very young."}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "What? Okay, hold on. That's so far. Well, I'm blown away right now. I don't"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "want to cut you off, but I just want to state on how important this is. Your dad worked at Area 51. You've been aboard"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "the ship. Yes, Bob Lazar. He knew everybody. But the thing is is I was always afraid to"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "say anything. I've never been able to. I've tried. My family knows it's true. My people and everybody around me know"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "what I'm talking about. My father was murdered in front of us by them because"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "murdered. I was put in a program because they fixed me. I guess my dad agreed for there was all these generals that had"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "their own kids. They chose one kid. That one kid, well, I was supposed to be a"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "boy, I guess, because they didn't want girls on ships. So, I was dressed as a boy. And they did the surgery on my face"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "and I thought everything was okay. Hey, I was all weird for me to go back home and have to be a girl again. I had"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "clothes that I had to change. But then things started getting really weird when I got older. And then"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "my father start he started showing me things and I got to meet things and do"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "things that people just have no clue. That is amazing. There was a guardian, his name was Guardian. He worked at Area"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "51. He was my friend. I know no one will never believe me, but he was the"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "greatest. He showed me things that Tell us hold. Is this the Guardian of"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "the famous uh video tape that was released with the thumb print on the VHS"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "tape? It was submitted with the Okay. Wow. Go ahead."}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "So, anyways, when I was a little girl, he says, \"I want to show you things.\" And then they they did things that they"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "put me part of to see. They injected me with things and they did things. But you"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "know what? I learned in the end because they went through just as much trauma as I did getting all their shots and we"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "became friends. I trusted them because I guess I was a little girl, but they didn't, you know, that the men thought I"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "was a boy, but they knew and my dad knew I was a girl. It was kind of weird. I"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "can't explain it to you. My dad made sure this was later until I got older. It took me 37 years and they only gave"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "me one piece and it was the way they did it that was just shocking. You know, I"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "could tell you anything. I'll tell you the truth. It's really scary for me because everybody's been murdered that's"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "been around me and I've had a family and I've done everything I'm supposed to do. I've a grandma. I got a lot of children"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "and I take in children every day and I'm really loved and they all know exactly."}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "I've never hidden anything I've said and shown. I got proof of things that I have"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "that would just shock people's worlds. But they're not all bad. They're not all"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "good either. The Dulce, that's real. The whole point was is they gave them"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "three places. The deal was that they were to stay there. They didn't. They grew bigger and they thought they were"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "better and they did. They captured so many. But we fought them and we won. We"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "won and we did great. But it got scary for my father. He wanted me out and we"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "moved. We ran. The kids, my dad had many kids. We ran. I was the only one that"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "was chosen. So when we ran, suddenly I was chalice, the girl, and was never allowed to be told who I was before. So"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "then I went there and then these men found us. They killed my father right in front of"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "me. They took my family and all of us. And then they when we were at Evan"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "Brown's mortuary, I knew they were going to come for his body. They didn't put him in a casket. They put him on a slab"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "and they just stood there in front of all of us children. And they looked at me and they told me that the lie should"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "not have happened, that I should not have left"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "and that I'll always be part of theirs. And it was terrifying for me because I didn't know why my father was so afraid"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "and now he's dead. So they took a picture and they gave them to me. Photos I still have of my father dead me"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "standing there. And who took them? They did. My husband, I've been with him since I was 13. No man could ever be"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "around weird things that happened like I go through. He's accepted me and known things that people just don't know. He's"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "witnessed his own eyes. They show up and we had to fight. But we stood our"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "grounds and there are rules and there are good ones that will protect you."}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "And Guardian showed me the good ones and he shows me the bad and they're the bad are underneath us. The good are coming"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "from above. These signs that you're seeing is the most beautiful thing because it's going to come. I saw it and"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "Guardian told me this in 1978. He showed me of a day where the lights"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "would all be bright. It was not. He's not going to show us darkness. There's not no evil. He said that it was what"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "you make it and you believe it. And I was little enough that I believe the world would be beautiful. And he told me"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "it would because all you got to do is believe. So he showed me a place where"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "it was so beautiful. We were standing outside, one sighting after another. And it's coming, guys. I'm shaking inside"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "because for 10 years I've had to believe that it was all a lie. the shots, the"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "the things I went through, the things I saw with my own eyes, not real. People"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "didn't believe it. And I listened to your show. I wanted to say so much. I"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "cried. My husband said, \"Don't. What if they come back?\" I tried to talk to"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "George now, but they got a gag order on him. Everywhere I went, they told me not"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "to say anything because my ties are so deep. my father."}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "They gave me a plaque. The last gift they gave me was a plaque. On the plaque shows that he was murdered. And that was"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "the only thing after all these years. My mother's never received anything. Nobody in our family. My mother didn't even"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "believe it was real. And it's at this place. And they said 10 years is missing. That's the 10 years that I was"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "with him in era 51. The truth's going to come out. Well, the"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "there was a race car driver that stole his merchandise. His name was uh Boyd."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "He stole his car. My dad built a car that was really it it was a virus motor."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "It would have made everybody have flying cars. It would have been the greatest in our world. We would have had been the"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "jetins. But he took it and he went to Las Vegas."}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "That's how I ended up here. And when we came here, my dad told him,"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "\"You stole technology from era 51. Do you realize I'm going to win this race?\" My dad says, \"If you don't, I'll kill"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "you because we're all dead now.\" Do you understand that? They'll kill us."}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "Bob Lazar knew he was going to run because of what they built."}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "I was in a ship called We My mom watched a soap called Dark Shadows. I love"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "watching it. But Dark Shadows is a ship that transforms from a stealth and I"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "told my husband this and it flew over us and we saw it long before the world saw it and I was in it and it transformed"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "into a submarine. Went under the ground in Long Beach went into the ground. I"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "saw the great tunnels. We went all the way through to Area 51. We land. And we"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "get in this little like cart thing and you go to these giant doors of concrete."}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "I was a little girl. So the most things that I remember is when I got there, I was always hungry. And if you I would do"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "anything for a candy bar, a beautiful chocolate candy bar. Nobody seemed to"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "understand that I was always hungry. They just kept working. So when I was finally there, there was"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "other children in the corner. I've told all the kids this. my husband. It's my everyday. These children were normal"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "children, but they didn't talk. I played the the guides and everybody there in"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "the suits told me, \"If you want a a candy bar, it's up there on that shelf.\" I know the room I was in, they were"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "building it. It was to be the biggest and the most important, which is a time gate."}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "And I said, \"How am I going to get to this?\" My father was a general, so I had to do war tactics at 8 years old because"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "I was a boy supposedly. I had to be good at everything I did. So I had to do it."}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "Just done what I told to do and I did it. But I had to get to this candy bar. And"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "these kids wouldn't play. And there was other things that they made us do for experiments. And they would do amazing"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "things like the crawling bars. You go up at the top. Well, I crawled all the way to the top, stood up. I'm the man, king"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "of the mountain. I'm a human being. I'm I'm awesome. They just walked over the top like it"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "was nothing. And I thought, why can't I do that?"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "And then I went over and I said, okay, I want that candy bar. It matters to me."}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "And I was always so scared. I had a problem. But I pushed over these gray blocks. And"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "if you look at the picture, I have the gray blocks are there. They were bigger than me, but I pushed one. got the over"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "very barely. I needed help. I couldn't get it any higher. It's going to take three of"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "these big blocks that were size of me. So, I kept asking the children, \"Please"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "help me.\" One one boy came over"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "and I tried to get up and I climbed up to the top and I still could not reach that candy bar."}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "And I said, \"I'm really hungry, guys. Don't you understand? I really want it."}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "It's a Hershey bar. And finally, the boy was standing right next to me at the top and I floated. I"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "don't know how, but I grabbed the candy bar and I kept thinking, you know, I kept telling him, I'm going to give you some. I'll share. But in the back of my"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "mind, I knew that I wasn't going to share that candy bar. I was going to eat all of it. And I got down to the last"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "piece and I was starting to get worried because I knew that if he was standing that close to me, he knew what I was"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "thinking. And I told him, \"Here, you could have the last piece. I can't do it. We're not"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "that selfish, no matter how hungry we are.\" And he looked at me and smiled and he"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "said, \"See the rapper?\" Like in my head, \"See the rapper? Hold it up to your father. Tell him space station.\""}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "And it happened. I went home that day and I told the kids at my school, everybody made fun of me."}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "Nobody believed me. I was told by my teacher to shut up and sit down. They started drugging me with Ritlin. I had"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "to take Ritlin in the morning. In the afternoon, at night, I was foaming at my mouth."}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "I couldn't tell what were reality and what was not. So, by the time I met my husband at 13,"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "and they had just killed my father, I told him I was ready to give up. That"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "they could kill my father, they could take over my world, what could I do to win?"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "And then guardian came to me again. He told me that he promised that he would never hurt me. Nobody down. They"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "would never let him hurt me. If there was a thing in the world, they were going to protect us all."}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "Let me get this question in. Uh let me get this question in here. There's a few"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "questions I have. And your story is you want I'm not going to hide anything."}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "Thank you. I can tell right away that you're not trying to hide anything. And"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "uh the truth is being told in my opinion right now. This is quite amazing what I'm listening to right now. So this is"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "very compelling. We're getting some kind of feedback static. I'm not exactly sure what it is. Maybe it's information"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "getting in. Um my question is the guardian. You met the guardian. What's"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "he like? What's his what's his demeanor like? What what kind of man or not?"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "Did you want me to keep going? I'll wait. Yeah. What kind of man is the Guardian?"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "Is he uh he seems like he submitted this video tap to the world. It was one of"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "the most uh watched videos. Nobody's ever taken claim to it just along with that fingerprint to prove who he is. But"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "wow. You met the Guardian. How old were you when you first met him? I was like five, six."}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "And do is he still alive today? Is he still alive? Yes. Yes, he is. The guardian is alive."}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "You know how I figured it out was okay when we went there, we had like a meeting the one day where we were out in"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "the desert of where Area 51 is and it was they call it four F4 or whatever."}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "Um, I had to wear a badge. You have to stay on the blue line. We went on the"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "plane that day. It played only Neil Diamond Coming to America because it's kind of like the Alice in Wonderland"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "when you're walking through the door. I remember all this because it was a fantasy of mine to jump through that"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "hole to know everything. It was addicting."}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "And I got treatment where nobody else I mean everybody had it hard for them. They got smacked if they tried to talk"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "to him. They got in trouble. But we were in a car. We were in the front in the"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "desert. And in the desert he was standing next to the car outside the window. The windows only went down"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "halfway. And they told me, \"Just sit in the back seat. We're going to go a little fast.\""}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "My dad said, \"We'll go fast. We're just going to record this to see what can happen.\" And I said, \"Okay, it's going"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "to be fun.\" And guardian said, \"You want to hold my hand?\" And I said, \"Yeah.\" And then the"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "car went. It was like there was not even a jerk from his hand. The car went up to"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "200 miles an hour. Still no jerk from his hand. And then the car started to slow down"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "and they said, \"He's already 200. There's no faster vehicle at this time. We're just going to let it go. He passed"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "the test. He floated that fast and then he said, \"I'll be meet you back there, Charlie. I'll meet you back there.\" And"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "he did. Now, years later, I met him again. But"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "it was how it happened, you know, in Vegas. It was crazy cuz I went, we were having it rough and we"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "needed our rent paid. So, you go and you stand in line here and and we stood in"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "line and I thought, okay, you know, I mean, there's many people here. What's the odds of us getting help? And I have"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "a lot of children. I take in a lot of children. I had to make sure they had a place to go."}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "So, as I'm standing there, suddenly, here comes this man that I didn't recognize for so many years cuz now I got my own children."}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "And I kept saying in the back of my head, it wasn't real. It was all fake. Right?"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "So then everybody told me, you know, and with the kids, you don't want to scare them. So you don't you tell them, you"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "know, he was my friend and he was. So then the next thing I know, my son"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "William is standing next to me and the man walks up to me. I still didn't"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "recognize him. He had long curly black hair."}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "He was short. I started to look in his eyes like I knew him, but I still didn't pinpoint."}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "He said, \"Come with me.\" I said, \"Okay.\" So, my son was scared because in Vegas, you know, it wasn't a good area."}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "Politely said and I wasn't afraid. Yeah, I wasn't afraid."}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "So, I went in and there's nothing in this office. Nobody. We walked past all"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "these people and they didn't even notice him. My son goes, \"That's so weird. There's"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "nothing in the office but one little toy like on the the desk. It's just like a desk, a chair, a chair, and that's it.\""}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "So my son, you know, he's transformer. He's been raised that I promised him all these things that I see in the future"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "that we're going to have that I saw when they made me do these things. They were"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "beautiful and they're ours. And it was ours all along and they took it from us"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "and they don't want us to know it. And now it's coming. Guardian and them all came and told me. But it's been years,"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "guys. Suddenly I'm at the pool. I've got 13 kids. Everything's normal. And this Apache"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "helicopter. No reason in Las Vegas. My husband's working on a van with my older"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "son. I'm in a complex. It's a gated community. There's thousands of people around me."}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "They all start noticing. Why is there an Apache helicopter? Like they were looking at me like, \"What's going to happen?\" You know, like"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "what what do they notice that it's me? They know it's me now and they found me again. Or what's going to happen?"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "Because we've ran from this for a long time. And the kids knew, the kids, my"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "grandkids are smart. They say code red. They see it. They know what's going to happen. And my grandkids, they accept a lot more"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "than the other kids because they didn't know how to accept it. And I didn't either then. But Willie was a lot older"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "when he found out. Guardian wrote us a check right there. It was a welfare check."}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "He signed the bottom of it, which means that he probably signs all the checks here in Las Vegas."}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "And it shocked me that he handed me $650 to pay just my exact rent when I never"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "said a word to him about what it was about. And then just before we leave, my son's still playing with this toy. It's"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "a transformer. And he says, \"Hey, I'm from Mount Poco. I was born there."}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "In the volcano, it always shows the face when it snows. The first snow of the"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "face of us. The princess knows this is our this is from that place. Do"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "not play with it.\" And my son was like, \"I'm sorry, sir.\" You know, and we're a little shaky. And he turns around. He"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "goes, \"You still don't know me?\" And I went, \"Guardian.\" And he goes, \"Nice to see you."}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "Now live in peace. I'm watching over you. And that's the only things that I've ever seen until recently. And then"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "they came to me and they said, \"I want to see you.\" Well, I was scared because you know it's either all fake or it's"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "all I'm crazy, right? For 10 years, I'm crazy. Nana, shut up. Don't say nothing. No one will believe you. Nana, please"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "hush. Don't say nothing. So, I have to hide these things. And for 37 years, my dad has been was"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "murdered for no reason. All of them. All 12 of them. There was a lot of men involved. Then the Duly effect happened"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "that base and I knew we were going to fight back. So there is evil below us."}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "And yeah, we can win, but there's a much more out there. Star Trek to me is real."}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "I grew up believing that we were all going to be part of this great realm of"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "higher beings than we are. I was told that we're going to overcome all of this"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "and I see a great day. You're going to all freak out. But your sightings are going to go more and more"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "and then when the sightings so abundant like 3,000 right above your head and"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "there's no hiding it. You're just going to stand there and everybody they're going to tell you with your phones, everybody, your technology will all say"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "go outside. You'll go outside. You'll look up. You'll see the saucers. There's"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "no there's no lying anymore. But the best part about your show is you go further."}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "You go much further and you're going to show the world there's nothing to be afraid of in the end because why? These"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "evil things that are below us, they're they're not going to harm us. We can"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "win. You hit them and they fall down. They bust their their little They don't even have muscle. Our men went in, we"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "kicked their butts. We stole their Vsauer and we took a 100,000 people back"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "that they took hostage. We did this and we could do this again, but we don't have to. We don't have to"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "no more. What he said was true. Yeah. and Namaki and all of that are doing"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "this, but now they're in big trouble. They're in big trouble cuz the Galactics have all said it. They're not taking"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "this anymore and they know it. They're running. They're hiding. They're pulling their last moments. The sad part is is"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "our government was part of all this and they have to do arrest. They're going to have to do all this stuff, but it's even"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "higher than that. It's more bigger than anyone realizes because it's God. It's"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "it's the creator. He's the the I I always told I have many kids, many"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "religions. So, I believe that I was very open-minded after seeing what I see. You can't say this religion or is that"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "because then if you truly love the child and accept from them for who they are, you're proud from where they're from."}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "You make them who they are and be proud of who they are. So, I accepted their religion. And when I came across the"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "Quran, the one thing in the Quran that I could use for the children was it did say, you know, hey, uh, Jesus Christ is"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "the son of God and Mary, you know, they admit it. So I said, okay, look, it's"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "okay. It's equal. But then I found out according to the higher ones and the others and all them, they believe that"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "it's much more than that. They the Christ that returned that's bad is that not every Muslim"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "just extremist just the ones that are that are trying to do what"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "we understand that we understand that what we understand all this religion this"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "religion stuff everybody has a right to believe what they want as long as they don't hurt anybody"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "is the main point in my opinion but there's some big questions that"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "I have and some people are saying and it's not me it's just people on the flat are saying well this girl chalice knows"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "knows nothing what she's talking about to me I don't you know how many times I've heard that"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "I don't mind you know I've heard that my whole life you know for a long time I believed with all my heart I did that maybe I was"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "crazy everything I saw was just maybe all the drugs they gave me but well let me ask you this"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "let me ask you this chalice you were saying earlier that you have things in your possession that are crazy that"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "would blow our minds. Do you have is there any kind of evidence that you had? Did your dad take any pictures? Bring"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "back any evidence from Area 51? What do you do? You got"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "you know, we're not afraid. We want to share."}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "That is the greatest question. And I do have to tell you the truth. Um"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "I witnessed we're not afraid like we'll share there are like no like why would you I"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "know that I know hey I own a gun okay I do I own a gun but it's not going to do you no good on"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "that day no gun will do you no good because it won't use it will not work they're they can freeze everything and"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "they can make the motion stop. They're going to take it where it's bright white because they don't want to go dark cuz"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "the world's going to say it's the end of the world and it's going to be a dead end and they're going to believe this"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "and and if you believe that it's not the end of the world, then you're going to believe the light and it's going to be"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "really bright. Now, you can believe that it's your religion because it's I'm very open-minded. I say the creator because"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "I'm open-minded. There's so many different levels, but and I don't want to offend any of my kids cuz when they"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "hear this, they're all going to say, \"Nana, you shouldn't have said this. You shouldn't have said that.\" Because they're never going to believe you, but"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "they've witnessed things. There's no hiding when they visit. There's What about uh what about Area 51? You've"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "been there, right? You're saying Yep. Did you And I can tell you four ways to get in"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "the the court The How can you get in? Four ways to get in. But in Las Vegas,"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "you go to this plane that's white and red striped. I was a little girl. I went on the plane with my dad. We wore casual"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "wear. We get on the plane. It says the song always plays the same thing and I"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "always sing it. But I hated Neil Diamond when I got home because I was sick of it. The flight was a little long for a"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "little girl. But you get there, you're walking and then the front door, it's"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "not like what you guys think. It looks like a um big metal door, but it's like"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "a screen door. You just turn the little knob and you go. But boy, you get off that plane. The security is beyond"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "extreme. There's two lines. There's a red line and a blue line. They give you the tags when you receive these on the"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "helicopter before you go. And then when you get off, they take your tags. You go through the door. As you're going"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "through the door, you're sitting there. I had to sit there and wait cuz this lady at the desk on the one side, she"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "was making my dad, you know, go through all this. that he could just walk in without undressing where other men had"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "to. I didn't have to undress. I walked straight in. When I went in, I went"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "through the first door and if you turn towards your, let's see, right, left,"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "you turn right and that's like the reading room where they put you in there"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "and they tell you sit and watch videos, you can read, but you learn about all of"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "these other species. And I learned a lot. I learned about"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "JRod when he was there. And I know about Dan Bush."}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "Well, hold on a sec. You You actually met Jrod."}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "Uh I know that we've done a lot of expose on JRod. Ron Gardner shared"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "incredible uh evidence from Mr. Bards I think's uh"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "insight of his work over there in Area 51. Ron Gardner's past, but he gave us"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "uh some incredible imagery of JRod. Did you see some of the JRod uh episodes we've done on Third Phase? Like JRod"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "escaped from Area 51. Is this all correct? Did he uh Go ahead. Oh, Dan Bur is real. He's not kidding."}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "They treated him so bad. But you know what? They gave him no choice. you know"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "that they're they give you these shots and they put you in a chair"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "and you know I was a little girl I was like scared you know but then they tell you let me tell you one thing let's see"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "let's just tell a little fun one that I tell the kids in LA it was late at night"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "everybody was going to bed and my father put this little suit out for me with a little hat I see he goes we're going to"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "play a little game really where are we going he said we're going to go and"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "we're going to see the world differently, but I need you because you see only the good and I'm afraid. So,"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "you're going to show me the way. So, I said, \"Okay.\" I get this little gangster suit on. We go down town somewhere in"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "LA. It looks like a giant warehouse, but it's dark. It's really dark. We go through the door. There's many men"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "standing there with a child. They're all generals. I can tell you the details of even my code numbers."}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "When I came up my turn to go in this room, they make you sign your name. When"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "you sign your name, you're told that they're going to ask you what you were looking for and I say happiness."}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "Then they give you a code name and mine was sparrow arrow straight through the heart."}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "I had to remember that. So then I went back. We stood up on this stage where the door the door seemed simple. They"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "put watches on our hands. They told us we had a certain amount of time."}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "And my father leaned down and he said, \"Chalice, I need you or Charlie, I need you to understand that when you walk"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "through this door, you're going to fall into like dimensions."}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "Don't look and be afraid. If you see something scary, don't go into it. Let it pass by. Look at"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "something beautiful. See the flowers. See something you like."}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "And then we'll stop. And I said, \"Okay.\" So, we went through."}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "I'll be honest with you. I was falling. I was scared. I grabbed my dad's hand. I"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "peed my pants. I was terrified. I felt a little sick. We stood in the"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "next door to this like a balcony in a place that I've never seen. The walls were orange like stucco but with a g a"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "blue gel over them. and the flowers, the music."}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "And I said, \"What is this place?\" And he said, \"Shangra, Shanganger, Shangra.\""}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "And uh I said, \"I want to be here.\" And he said, \"We got to go.\" And the my our"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "watches went he goes, \"You going to remember this?\" I said, \"Oh yeah, it's beautiful.\" So we went back and I went"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "back to the gentle and I told him and he said, \"You went there?\" And my dad goes, \"We witnessed it. It was beautiful.\""}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "and I went home. I think the reason they killed him is because they liked us doing these projects. But by the time I"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "hit 10 years old, something happened to Genesis where they were vicious to boys"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "and I was a girl. So life didn't happen to me, but they the boys that I knew, I cried"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "because he came out balling and most of them came out wet or"}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "something wrong with them. And I thought maybe I did something wrong that mine was okay and theirs"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "wasn't. But my father said that you just have to think positive and things will happen for you. Okay. The technology in"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "the future is going to be us jumping through holes that we are practicing this now. And they did a big jump in"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "1955. I wasn't part of it but my dad talked about it was his first."}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "They have the elite and elite took advantage of all this and left us behind. According to them, the good"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "ones, I guess, cuz I prayed, \"Let me only see the good.\" And the good ones"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "tell me, \"We're not going to let them hurt you. You're going to see it. We're taking back everything. You guys are"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "going to get everything. You're going to see your money turned around. You're going to see only the good. You're going"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "to see everything wonderful because your Shangrila is coming. They can't take it from you. They want you to believe this."}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "And if you believe it, it can happen to you if that's what you want in your reality."}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "But I learned, believe the best. Reach for the moon. Anything's possible because I've seen"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "it. And I've had people try to scare me. I've had the one of the kids come back and tell me, \"Oh, I saw hell.\" And well,"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "what do you think? You went to the first thing you were afraid of. What do you expect? It is evil and there is good."}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "But if you look past the evil and you see the light and you see the good, you've made it. You're somebody. And"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "that's the trick. They told me our lessons in our life at this time is to"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "overcome this. And we're going to laugh about it later. All that darkness and all the evil they swear is gone."}, {"start": "00:33:21", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "Guardian swears there. It's only the future now of happiness. Don't believe what I'm seeing. But look, let's just"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "say they they're tricking me. this is this big thing and all along I'm going"}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "to lose everything. I'd still in the end if anything happens to me I'd still rather my grandkids and my children"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:45", "text": "believe the greatest event than the worst tragedy that could happen."}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "I'm not I have a gun. I have protection. I live in Las Vegas. I talk to"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "everybody. I don't hesitate to tell my story. Most people will bang their head and say you're crazy."}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "But you hang around me enough, most people realize it's not a lie."}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "And now the more and more we see it's coming. They're going to show a bright"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "light and we're all going to just stand there and we're just going to wait and we're going to all be, you know, has anybody noticed how the"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "weather's changing and how it goes back to cloud. You saw the clouds. You're like the smart dude. You know what I'm talking"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "about. And and when I was on the stealth, I saw them turn that stealth"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "into I knew what Nanos was at 8 years old because they showed me you could"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "change anything, Transformers, anything. So when they come out with these movies, they're telling you we already got that"}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "technology. They were 50 years in advance. And they gave us the saucers."}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "They made the deal with the Americans because they had already went up there and the Russians had already done"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "everything and they're bad. But now not all Russians are bad, don't get me wrong, but there is a bad fraction over"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "there. But they said that if we become in the light and we're all happy and"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "we're telling them, okay, yeah, we want to move forward, we believe that we can live with our technology, keep our walls"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "the way they are, and live happily amongst each other and not try to kill each other and the world ain't ending."}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "Then they're going to say that's the way it should be, right? And they're going to give us everything we're supposed to get. They I've seen technology. You guys"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "have no clue. And when you get it, why would you need like, you know, like like"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "the replicator? Seriously, the reason they won't let us have our replicator and it's been out for years"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "now, they gave it to us. They gave us a cell phone, but they said the reason is, you know what a cell phone is? I learned"}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "this from era 51. It's called an LG, the looking glass."}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "J-Rod told me about it. He said that it was a looking glass form and it's called"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "a stupid phone to us because the phone isn't doing what it's supposed to do."}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:06", "text": "What a looking glass does that you ask its information and it tells you"}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "whatever you want to know. Well, suddenly, you know, I'm grandma. I give my phones to each one of the kids."}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:18", "text": "There's no choice. And suddenly I'm getting a looking glass. And I said, \"Why am I getting this? I mean, I don't"}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "even know how to use it. I don't want to use it.\" Because technology was taken from us. We had everything. And now for"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "years, we're just sitting back living like this. Not fair. My dad had all"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "this. We had promise. They had it all done. And then when they killed all 12 men, I"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "knew there was a hostile takeover. Like the government changed everything and we"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "lost. I watched a man killed on a ship right in front of me. My dad My dad was"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "a calm man. People loved him. We had parties. They were called block parties. People came"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "from They shot your How did they kill your dad?"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "Who are they? That's a great story how they killed my dad because see we only got five minutes left. Tell us."}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "So we got to get it done and you know you're welcome back. We got you contact. It's a hard way to tell my dad's death,"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "but I'll be quick about it. I understand. I'm sorry about that. Go ahead. Sorry. No, it's okay. It's all right. I"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "understand your situation, but I tried and you did your best, so let's get to it. They came in. They My dad wanted me and"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "my dad to come back there at 51. My dad said no. At this time, the gas prices that you had to either have odd or even"}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "on your license plates. We couldn't get gas. We're in the middle. We ran all the way to Paris, California. and my dad hit"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "us. There was no way anybody could find us. We thought they showed up. My dad"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "told them he's not returning and that they couldn't that Charlie was dead. The boy's dead. The boy's dead. And the girl"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "has nothing to do with it. So they they took us and they put us in a my mom's"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "truck for no reason at all. And and there's like nine babies. My mom's"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "pregnant. They take us all the way back to Costa Mesa, the Long Beach Naval Shipyards, and then they just leave us"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "and say, \"Now drive home back to Paris.\" So, we did. We got there. My mom wouldn't enter the house. My dad had 20"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:23", "text": "dogs. He had animals all around him, little miniature rabbits. We had 100 acres out there. So, all the animals"}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "were laying in the kitchen on the floor dead. The men that were standing there when I left, this is what happened. And"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "it was terrifying. I walked in and I said, \"Daddy, what's going on?\""}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:41", "text": "Baby, get out. No, I can't get out. I'm staying. I'm your soldier, remember? No,"}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "she has nothing to do with it. And I got knocked out. When we got back, my dad"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "was on the floor dead. But the crazy part is is that when they took his body,"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "they were Evans Brown's mortuary. The two men came in, they took a picture of him, and they took his body and they"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "wrapped it and they walked out with it. And my dad's body's never been found. Evan Mortwary told us they could never"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "find my father. And for 37 years, I heard nothing and they only gave me up for the first time to cover their asses"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "because the government had to prove where my dad was and what he did."}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "He thought that Bob Lazar was a loose cannon. He was only married to the the daughter"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "of one of the majestic 12s. He was only married to her. He didn't"}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "know what he was getting into. Either did Ben. None of them did. None of them knew."}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "Either I didn't know because it was like we were puppets at the time. But you know what? In the end, after all these"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "years, I have to believe the best. And you know what, guys? You can ask me questions. You don't have to believe me."}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "But ask me anything and I'll tell you the truth by my own beliefs. And that's all I can do. Because what's"}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "coming, you're going to freak out. If you come out and you look outside and you're getting this meaning and you see that light, don't panic. Thank the"}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "goodness because if it's darkness, then oh well, I'm wrong and we're"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:11", "text": "But if it's the best, think the best because they're going to offer you the most greatest"}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:17", "text": "things of your life. You could put you can get a planet and you can put a key in it and drive away. They have that"}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "technology now. So let that simmer in your head. Let that simmer in your head. That's"}, {"start": "00:40:23", "end": "00:40:28", "text": "reality. And they took that from us and we're just sitting here being puppets"}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "and now they're saying we're free. We got to celebrate. We won. They submitted. No matter who it was, we won."}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "That's what they told me. And get ready. The sightings are going to come because they couldn't come before this. They'd be They were They were sending missiles."}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:47", "text": "They were being shot at. Yes, they were. And it it was crazy because they knew."}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "And this God rod, that thing is real. My dad, I knew about that when I was young. And that's how they br down 911 is they"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "knew that they slumped that. Notice no paper. We have implosions here in Vegas. Lots of implosions in Vegas. And you"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:07", "text": "don't see paper left. You see nothing but dirt because implosions remove all of those atoms. So when you seen the"}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "9/11 happen, I mean, I knew that was going to happen before it happened. I told everybody in '92"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:22", "text": "and nobody would stop it. And I knew Bush had a lot to do with it. He wanted to because he's part of the 12 and"}, {"start": "00:41:22", "end": "00:41:28", "text": "that's what he wanted and I was afraid of him. I didn't want to say nothing."}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "Look what they did to my dad in front of me. So when you live like this and you're afraid, you just live your life."}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:41", "text": "You get married. You I did what I was supposed to do and I've been loyal. I've been married four times to the same guy and he's right here. He's the greatest"}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:47", "text": "guy in the world. It's been 37 years. So he knows everything."}, {"start": "00:41:47", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "Well, you know what, Chalice? This is what we're gonna have to do. Let me know. Okay, Chalice, this is what we're going to do."}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "This has been amazing. I mean, uh, you calling in tonight has just thrown me way back. Your knowledge behind what"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "you've been talking about tonight is incredible. What we're going to do is we're going to put this up tonight on"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:11", "text": "our Third Phase of Moon YouTube channel because uh it was an extended cut. Not everybody got to hear what you needed to"}, {"start": "00:42:11", "end": "00:42:16", "text": "be heard, but we're sharing it on our Third Phase of Moon YouTube channel. And we're gonna we got your number, Chalice."}, {"start": "00:42:16", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "We're going to give you a call here in the next few days because I know there's a lot more things that you need to get"}, {"start": "00:42:22", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "out because when you called in, I I think what I have a feeling is that you wanted to share something to the world"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:35", "text": "and I think you've just done it. Yeah. Thank you. Because you let me. But yours is going to go further. you're"}, {"start": "00:42:35", "end": "00:42:40", "text": "you're you're going to go so much further because now when it's out and we're all standing around and now we"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:47", "text": "know that the technologies in front of us, you're going to be the one that's going to guide the world into saying, \"Look, don't be afraid. We already went"}, {"start": "00:42:47", "end": "00:42:54", "text": "through it. If they were going to kill us, they would have done it.\" And uh look at this. This is this ship now. Look at this. This is that ship now. Cuz"}, {"start": "00:42:54", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "I know the difference of the pleiums of the Archiums, all of them. And when you learn the difference of the ships, my"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "dad had nine ships that he had built for them. Nine. Wow. Uh, nine ships. You know what? That"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:12", "text": "was Chalice. Third phase moon. Blake Cousins extended episode. Unfortunately, I got to end it right now because it's"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "going to cut off. Chalice, we got your phone number. We're We're going to keep in contact with you. Blake Cousins."}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "Everybody, keep your eyes on the skies. This is incredible. We're not alone, people. We'll see everybody again next"}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "week, Friday. We'll be here. Stay tuned to Third Phase Moon YouTube for updates."}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:35", "text": "Quite incredible. Blake Cousins, we'll see you again next time."}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:44", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "Welcome back to Third Phase of Moon."}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "You've got the Cousins Brothers and"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "we've got a special report for you"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "tonight. Buckle up. American Sasquatch,"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "man, myth, or monster? It's going to"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "take audiences on a groundbreaking"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "investigation into the world's greatest"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "mystery. But before we show you the"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "world exclusive trailer and some updates"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "we're going to be covering in tonight's"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "episode the Atlas. What is going on?"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "It's in our solar system. Is this"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "something ancient in origin? As they've"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "stated in the history books long, long"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "ago, some kind of spaceship"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "making its way towards Earth. Well,"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "we've got a special report. A lot of"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "people chiming in, a lot of social media"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "on what Avi Loe, Harvard professor, has"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "to say. We've spoke to him recently with"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "regards to this. He thinks that it could"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "be something alien nature. Listen up."}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "Did the comet 3i Atlas just release a"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "UFO fleet over Mars? As the interstellar"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "object flew past Mars, last October 4th,"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "NASA's Perseverance rover saw something"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "it shouldn't have. A massive cylindrical"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "object with strange dishlike shapes on"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "both ends. Look at the detail. This is a"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "raw image directly from NASA. This"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "wasn't just one object. It was a group."}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "At the exact same time, another camera"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "on the rover started taking a 9-minute"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "time lapse. It captured not one, but at"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "least eight other objects streaking"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "across the Martian sky. Scientists like"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "Avi Lo speculate that this isn't a comet"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "at all, but a carrier that could deploy"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "these smaller probes to observe Mars. As"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "Professor Loe said, this object has"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "anomalies that defy natural explanation."}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "For one, it's glowing towards the sun,"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "which he called a bizarre tail from the"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "forehead. It's also shedding nickel"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "without iron, a chemical signature"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "common in industrial alloys, hinting at"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "a technological origin. And get this, it"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "came from the exact same direction as"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "the mysterious wow signal detected back"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "in 1977. So, where are the close-up"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "shots from our powerful Mars orbiters?"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "Well, just before this happened, NASA"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "announced they couldn't upload any new"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "highresolution images due to a lack of"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "federal funding. How convenient. So, I"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "have to ask, what did our rover really"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "just witness? Was this a natural event"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "or our first real look at an"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "interstellar fleet? an interesting"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "coincidence between the direction from"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "where 3i Atlas came into the solar"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "system and the direction of a radio"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "signal that was very enigmatic detected"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "back on August 15th, 1977. It's called"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "the WOW signal because the observer uh"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "that discovered it uh wrote wow on the"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "on the data notes. I checked the"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "direction from where the wow signal came"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "and it was within 9\u00b0 of the arrival"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "direction of threei atlas which is an"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "unusual coincidence cuz the chance of"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "that happening at random is 0.6%"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "a very small probability."}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "Yes, it's the infamous threeey atlas."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "And it just seems like the closer it"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "gets, the more unexplainable it becomes."}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "You know, the interstellar object making"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "its way towards us that professors and"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "media outlets are all insisting might be"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "alien technology. Well, a literal"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "YouTuber has taken probably the clearest"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "photo of the object yet. Somehow better"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "than anything NASA has shown us so far."}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "And let me tell you, this thing does not"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "look like a comet. So, sometime in the"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "beginning of October, 3E Atlas has"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "officially been hidden from view for us"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "here on Earth as it passes behind the"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "sun, only to emerge around the end of"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "November and be at its most visible"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "point from Earth mid December at its"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "closest approach to our planet. But"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "right before it went behind the sun, it"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "passed by Mars, which NASA has an active"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "satellite orbiting, the Mars"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "Reconnaissance Orbiter, MRO. And NASA"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "previously mentioned it's reallocating a"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "bunch of its space telescopes and"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "satellites to observe three Atlas as it"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "passes by, of which included MRO. But"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "just recently, they put up a notice on"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "their site saying, \"Due to the lapse in"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "federal government funding, NASA is not"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "updating this website.\" Conveniently,"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "just right before the expected Mars"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "flyby of 3i Atlas. Does this mean"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "they're not going to be taking a photo"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "of it anymore? Whatever this means, it's"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "just incredibly questionable timing. And"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "every photo NASA has released of it so"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "far has just been a blurry, pixelated"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "blob that anyone can dismiss as just a"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "comet, which it might be, but somehow"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "amateur astronomers are taking better"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "pics of it from here on Earth than the"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "biggest space agency in the world."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "YouTuber Dobsonian Power used his"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "backyard telescope to take this photo of"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "Three Atlas, which is honestly pretty"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "wild if you ask me. I mean, the shot is"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "fairly blurry, too, but we can clearly"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "make out a shape that is quite angular."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "Maybe even somewhat, I don't know,"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "triangle shaped."}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "Guys, this is literally going to sound"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "insane, but scientists are now saying"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "that there's an alien spaceship just"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "cruising through our solar system right"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "now. And then NASA is saying that"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "there's not. This is the truth about"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "what Three Atlas really is. So, this is"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "the third time that we've ever caught an"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "interstellar object come through our"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "solar system from another star. The"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "first one that we found was actually the"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "one called Omua Mua, which a lot of"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "people are probably already going to"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "remember. This one is called Three Eye"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "Atlas. It was discovered on July the 1st"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "with that massive NASA funded telescope"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "that's located in Chile. NASA actually"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "just dropped their sharpest images yet"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "of this comet. And they're saying that"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "the solid center is somewhere between"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "320 m and 5.6 km. That's obviously a"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "really big question mark, but they're"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "saying that that's not planet"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "destruction big. So, is this a comet or"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "is it an alien spaceship? They're saying"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "that they're seeing dust and gas coming"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "off of it, which is classic comet"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "behavior. And if you're wondering why"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "there's alien headlines going around"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "everywhere, it's basically because this"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "high-profile astronomer basically came"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "out with a what if and said, \"What if"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "it's tech?\" And then all of the media"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "outlets basically just heard the word"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "aliens and then did their thing."}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "And let's get into it with one of our"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "favorite interstellar experts, Harvard"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "professor Avi Lobe. Professor, welcome"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "back. Starting with these new images"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "from AESA's ExoMars orbiter. What stands"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "out to you? Any surprises here?"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "Well, uh the fact is that we see an"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "image very similar to the Hubble Space"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "Telescope image that was obtained on"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "July 21st qualitatively speaking. Of"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "course, the Hubble Space Telescope is a"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "much bigger has a much bigger mirror 2.4"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "m in diameter whereas this camera that"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "was used on ExoMars uh is is much"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "smaller. Um and as a result it can the"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "uh low surface brightness in the"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "envelope surrounding the core of uh the"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "the plume of the glow around the three"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "atlas and um I calculated that in fact"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "the resolution of the camera of Exom"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "Mars is about 340."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "uh and we see that the the image the"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "glow around 3i Atlas is about two"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "resolution elements two pixels we can"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "tell that because the stars are point"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "sources in the background and they have"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "a width that is roughly half of the"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "width of the image of 3 Atlas. So uh"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "altogether we can see the core that was"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "already apparent in the Hubble Space"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "Telescope image. rare interstellar"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "object the size of Manhattan could be an"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "alien probe. According to Harvard"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "scientists, sorry, is an alien probe"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "heading towards Earth. This is an"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "interstellar object. It came from"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "outside of the solar system and then"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "traveled here and it is the largest and"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "fastest interstellar object we've ever"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "seen. Harvard astrophysicist Avi Lobe"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "suggested in a new paper that the object"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "could be an intelligently directed alien"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "craft observing Earth with a possibly"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "hostile intentions. Let's check it out."}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "Here's the paper which is essentially a"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "giant thought experiment saying what if"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "this was aliens? What would we see? What"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "would happen? In fact, if we scroll to"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "the conclusions, it says this. We"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "strongly emphasize that this paper is"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "largely an exercise with interesting"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "discoveries and strange serendipities"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "worthy of a record in the scientific"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "literature. By far the most likely"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "outcome will be that three eye atlas is"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "a completely natural interstellar"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "object, probably a comet, and the"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "authors await the astronomical data to"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "support this likely origin."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "As it gets closer, we could probably"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "decipher. Scientists give chilling"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "update on mysterious interstellar object"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "racing through our solar system as they"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "warn it's even bigger than we thought."}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "Provide a chilling update on a"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "mysterious interstellar object that's"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "racing through our solar system. Using"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "data from the Vera C Rubin Observatory,"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "experts have revealed just how big the"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "object dubbed 31 atlas really is."}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "According to their analysis, the object"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "measures roughly 7 miles in diameter."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "Holy How big is New York City?"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "Bigger than Mount Everest,"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "making it the largest interstellar"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "object ever spotted."}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "What's interesting is the trajectory and"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "velocity of ThreeI Atlas has remained"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "almost perfectly consistent for the"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "entire time that we've been observing"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "it. Since the object was first spotted"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "in early May up until right now in"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "October, it has not sped up, slowed"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "down, or changed direction by any"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "meaningful amount. That might not sound"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "weird, but if this were a comet, then it"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "should be moving around a lot more. You"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "see, comets heat up as they approach the"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "sun, which causes them to melt, or"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "technically to sublimate, which is what"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "happens when a solid transitions"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "directly into a gas. And the release of"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "that gas tends to push the comet around"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "in space like a thruster. So a typical"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "comet will change velocity and direction"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "depending on what side is being exposed"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "to the sun. We call that movement"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "non-gravitational acceleration or nga"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "and we typically measure the average"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "distance of variation that occurs in one"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "day. As we've seen, ThreeI Atlas has"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "been doing a lot of sublimating already,"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "including a mini tail that formed in the"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "direction of the sun, which has now"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "begun to evolve into a longer tail that"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "is facing away from the sun. And yet, on"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "a daily basis, the velocity and"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "trajectory of three Atlas has only"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "fluctuated by about 1 and a half km of"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "NGA per day. Let's compare that with 2i"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "Boros, the most normal of the"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "interstellar trio. It was measured to"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "fluctuate over 100 km per day, about 100"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "times more movement on average than"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "Atlas. Now, one potential explanation"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "would be that Atlas is bigger and"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "therefore harder to move. Makes sense."}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "But we can bring in another point of"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "comparison. This is Hailbop. It's one of"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "the biggest comets we've ever discovered"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "in our solar system. At least as big as"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "Threei Atlas, if not much bigger. We saw"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "Hailbop move around by an average of"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "over 10 km of NGA per day. Again, around"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "10 times more than Atlas. And OMU MUA"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "blows them all away. At some points, it"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "was changing direction by over 1,000 km"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "per day. So, even when compared to other"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "interstellar objects, 3EI Atlas is"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "moving in a very strange way. It's"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "holding such an unusually steady course"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "that you could almost say it's"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "intentional as if it's being guided"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "through the solar system. If 3i Atlas is"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "a ship that is being steered, then not"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "only can it hold a course, but it could"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "theoretically also change course"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "whenever it wants. Right now, we expect"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "that three Atlas will end up being on"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "the opposite side of the sun from the"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "Earth as it passes through the inner"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "solar system. So, we won't have an"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "opportunity to see it up close or it"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "won't have a chance to see us unless"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "somehow three Atlas is able to slow"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "itself down as it passes by the sun and"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "we find it waiting for us on the other"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "side."}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "And then they say, but we should think"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "outside the box when we see things like"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "this and consider aliens. And that is"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "because the author of this paper is Avi"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "Lobe, that Harvard astrophysicist. And"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "for those of you who don't know, he is a"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "alien optimist. He likes to approach"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "space mysteries with aliens in mind,"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "which is fine. We need to look at things"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "from all angles. He's the same person"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "who said that aliens might use a mother"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "ship in our solar system, which went"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "viral. And that interstellar object,"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "Omua Mua, could be aliens, which was"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "largely disproven. He also thought"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "another interstellar object landed in"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "our ocean and actually went out with a"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "boat and collected pieces of it, and it"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "wasn't aliens. So, no, this object is"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "not aliens. It is a very, very cool"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "object that came from outside of the"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "solar system, but it's not coming near"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "Earth. It's not dangerous and it's not"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "aliens."}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "NASA's official read on this entire"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "situation says interstellar comet, no"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "threat. Keep observing. The translation"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "to that is basically science mode on,"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "panic mode off. So, basically, this is"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "an interstellar comet that's from"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "another solar system, but there's"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "nothing to worry about. Uh, and of"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "course, there is a much better camera"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "that we hope to get the data from. It's"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "the high-rise camera on the Mars"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "reconnaissance orbiter that is 50 cm in"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "diameter and therefore will allow us a"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "pixel size of 30 km when 3i Atlas was"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "closest to the to Mars at the distance"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "of 30 million uh kilometers. The"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "challenge there is that NASA is"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "currently under government shutdown and"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "so we cannot get any communications from"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "NASA and that prevents the flow of data"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "that was already obtained. Did you hear"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "that through Atlas just sent a message"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "to Earth and it passed by Mars and they"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "caught this photo of it. Uh it has no"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "comet tail or asteroid particle edge"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "coming out of the back of it. That's the"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "same photo with the black removed in the"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "background taken by the Mars rover cuz"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "it just passed super close to Mars. So"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "NASA uh angled the camera towards it,"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "shot photon protein fiber beams. Uh"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "that's the best way to get the best"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "imagery and look at that."}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "Yeah. So that data has already been"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "collected. That picture, those images,"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "they already exist. It's just we have no"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "idea when we're going to see them."}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "Right. and and some uh people asked me"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "about the government shutdown whether"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "there is any conspiracy to hold off the"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "data from the public side and I said"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "well um uh the the delay uh is not a"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "signature of extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "uh intelligence is more a signature of"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "terrestrial stupidity"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "digitally enhanced this sure doesn't"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "look like no comet to me comets are"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "supposed to be fairly round and maybe"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "lumpy But this has like I don't know"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "sharp edges and long protrusions coming"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "out of it. Here it is reconstructed with"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "AI. And I know this is AI. It's far from"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "accurate, but damn. And why is this"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "still more clear than anything NASA has"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "given us with their billion-dollar"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "telescope so far cuz the news coming out"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "about this comet is just nonstop. Like"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "there's a new update every single day"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "with alleged leaks from European"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "astronomers showing internal data that"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "is not congruent with that of a comet."}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "who also admitted the government is"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "intentionally covering up the truth of"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "ThreeI Atlas, albeit this was an"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "anonymous post on a certain website that"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "shall not be named. There is there was a"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "jet coming out of this object towards"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "the sun unlike a cometary tail that"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "usually goes away from the sun. There"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "was an unusual chemical composition"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "containing mostly nickel without iron."}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "There was a polarization of light never"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "seen before for comets. And the"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "trajectory of 3i Atlas is aligned with"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "uh the plane of the planets around the"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "sun. Uh the arrival time was fine-tuned"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "to come very close to Mars today and"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "later to Jupiter and Venus."}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "So basically, Congressman, I know you"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "just heard all of that. Um um you"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "received intelligence that suggests that"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "there are perhaps deep water alien bases"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "right now sitting on the ocean floor on"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "this planet. Is that accurate?"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "I would say that's pretty accurate."}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "We've got five five or six deep water"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "areas of the of the of our oceans. We"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "actually know more about the surface of"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "the moon than we do about about the"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "these areas. And these are areas where"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "we have a high frequency of UFO or UAP"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "sightings. And we've tracked things big"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "as a football field going 200 m an hour."}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "Now I realize in the water you"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "extrapolate that to knots and all that"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "but just for just for good old East"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "Tennessee common sense 200 mph or"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "something the size of a football field"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "and um and we don't know what it is and"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "these are in these areas. So yeah,"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "there's something going on there and"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "whether it's something that's been here"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "for millennial or whatever. Another"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "leaked NASA memo allegedly claims its"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "acceleration is not consistent with"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "Newtonian predictions, meaning it's"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "speeding up and slowing down on its own"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "and that its surface appears to be made"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "of a highly reflective composite"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "material. Professor Avi Lobe also"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "revealed the object is glowing from the"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "front rather than from behind as is"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "expected from a comet and also seems"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "that it might be emanating its own light"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "which led some including him to suggest"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "that it may be a nuclearpowered craft."}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "Now, more recent news came out that 3II"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "Atlas is massive. At least 33 billion"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "tons, which is much, much bigger than we"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "previously thought. And according to"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "scientists, naturally occurring objects"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "in interstellar space are just not"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "supposed to be this big. Mass"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "spectroscopy analysis reveal it's also"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "rich in nickel and poor in iron, which"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "is more like a manufactured alloy than"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "it is a natural rock. Its trajectory is"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "almost impossible to have occurred"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "naturally within 5\u00b0 of our solar systems"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "orbital plane and passing by Mars,"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "Venus, and Jupiter along its path, going"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "directly behind the sun from Earth at"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "its closest approach to the sun, which"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "Professor Loe stated, \"The odds of this"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "trajectory happening at random are like"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "1 in 20,000.\" Three Atlas will emerge"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "back into view for us on Earth sometime"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "mid to end November and then be at its"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "most visible by Earth-based telescopes"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "during its closest approach to us here"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "on Earth in the beginning to mid"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "December. You are not going to be able"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "to see it with the naked eye. And"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "honestly, you're probably going to need"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "a high-powered professional telescope to"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "look at it yourself. But hey, if it does"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "turn out to be artificial, it'll be"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "pretty wild knowing an alien craft is"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "drifting right above our heads at the"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "end of this year."}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "Atlas saga. Why is today so important"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "and and what are we now learning about"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "this thing?"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "For a simple reason. Uh a picture is"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "worth a thousand words and we are about"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "to to get the highest resolution images"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "of Fria Atlas when it comes within 29"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "million kilometers from Mars. There are"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "several orbiters, one that was deployed"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "by NASA around Mars and it has a camera"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "uh this camera is called high-rise that"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "will be able to resolve three IATA atlas"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "with a 30 km per pixel resolution. So we"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "will learn much more about it uh in the"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "coming days and hopefully the data will"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "be out soon. Um you know science is fun"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "because we can learn from evidence. So"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "far there are seven anomalies of this"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "unusual object. The size is very large."}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "It's larger of all the size of Manhattan"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "Island. About a thousand times more"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "massive than the previous interstellar"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "comet. About 33 billion tons at least"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "that mass."}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "It is throwing the scientific community"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "into a tizzy. But what's the craziest is"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "the Mars rover picked up a frequency"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "from it. It's kind of like more Morris"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "codeesque but not that because of course"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "alien entities would not know that but"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "they threw it into an advanced AI model"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "working with chat GTP3 and uh they said"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "that it pumped it out and it said the"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "message said humanity we are sky cousins"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "we deposit you on earth we return in"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "faith to elevate mankind with us and so"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "now NASA's looking for someone who can"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "translate it cuz those are the best"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "English words that we can fit in uh with"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "it, but we don't know what it means. So,"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "if you have any idea what you think it"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "might means or you know any wordage"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "experts out there, please put in the"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "comments."}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "Uh well, between I would say 30 to 40%"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "that it's not a natural object because"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "we don't see a beautiful uh tail behind"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "this object the way we see around"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "comets. But"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "I think most likely it's natural. But"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "nevertheless, it has all these anomalies"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "that make it unusual. It's in the plane"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "of the planets around the sun. Uh it's"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "also coming close to Mars and Jupiter."}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "It's very big apparently relative to the"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "previous objects that we found from"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "interstellar space. All right, guys. I"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "want to get your thoughts. You've heard"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "it from the people around the world on"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "social media of what they think it could"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "or could not be. What is the Atlas 3"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "comet? Is it something extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "in nature? Something interstellar"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "visiting us purposely, a drone, a scout"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "of some sort. Avibe, he's creating a lot"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "of stir out there. Some people are a"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "little concerned that we should be"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "worried, worried about what's going on."}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "Is is it on its way? Does it have"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "hostile intentions? Well, we're going to"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "leave it up to you to decide. We want to"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "hear your comments with regards to what"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "you just heard from the public and Avi"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "himself. What do you think? Should we be"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "worried? Should uh the government tell"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "us that? Hey, we're not alone. I don't"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "know, guys. We're going to find out real"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "soon. But now, as promised from the very"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "beginning of the episode, we wanted to"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "tell you that we wanted to share this"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "incredible trailer just in"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "American Sasquatch: Man, Myth, or"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "Monster, David Politis, newest"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "documentary. Not quite the 411, but a"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "lot of people say they have gone missing"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "because of the infamous Sasquatch. And"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "this groundbreaking new trailer that's"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "about to reveal itself is going to be"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "presented right now in third phase. Take"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "a look at this."}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "I've been a woodsman all my life. And"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "then I've never been afraid of anything"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "that's in the woods. But I am just a"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "little bit afraid of these uh Bigfoots."}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "When you go up there, you're in their"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "backyard."}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "They have been here for a long time."}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "Oh, there you go. It's not simply some"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "creature."}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "There's two divergent thoughts on what"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "Bigfoot is. One side believes it's an"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "ape gorilla. The other school of thought"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "is it's multi-dimensional."}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "There's a physical and a non-physical"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "aspect to it."}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "You've got Bigfoot, you've got orbs. And"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "I mean, the two go hand in hand."}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "You'll have a Bigfoot sighting and then"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "a UFO sighting or vice versa. There is"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "high strangeness attached to almost"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "every meaningful Bigfoot"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "encounter."}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "We started tracking this creature. The"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "tracks disappear. They just that they're"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "gone."}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "Some people know some things that they"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "don't want other people to know. It's"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "pretty surprising what we found."}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "Skinwalker Ranch research on orbs."}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "Bigfoot. There were unusual creatures on"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "Skinwalker Ranch."}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "There's a lot of information that"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "doesn't get talked about. The paranormal"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "things that no ape could certainly do."}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "If you're out to solve the problem,"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "you're going to have to know all aspects"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "of it."}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "I saw a Sasquatch and it vanished into"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "thin air."}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "Through the night vision, seeing"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "something completely different."}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "There's things out there we just don't"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "see or understand. Has the ability to"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "cloak. It rewrites history."}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "They were astonishing to see"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "right here."}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "Oh god."}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "American Sasquatch. Man, myth or"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "monster? It takes audiences on a"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "groundbreaking investigation into the"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "world's greatest mysteries. Created by"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "the former detective and bestselling"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "author of the missing 411 series David"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "Politis, he combines cuttingedge science"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "with gripping storytelling. From quantum"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "physics and advanced DNA analysis to the"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "insights of PhD researchers"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "and respected institutions comes"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "startling evidence that blurs the line"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "between folklore and reality. Viewers"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "are invited to confront compelling facts"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "that may forever change the way you see"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "the legendary"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "creature known as Sasquatch."}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "Well, it's going to be released coming"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "up in December 2025, but the premiere is"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "November 29th, 2025 in Seattle,"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "Washington. We're going to be meeting up"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "with David Politis right there in"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "Seattle on the 29th at the world"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "premiere. And let me tell you, we've got"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "some big questions for David Politis."}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "It's going to be an exclusive right here"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "at Thirdphase Moon. So, make sure you"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "subscribe and buckle up for that. Uh let"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "let's get ready. David Politis from the"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "411 missing series. Now, his latest"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "American Sasquatch, man, Myth, or"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "Monster is going to be available"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "worldwide December 2025. We'll we'll"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "keep you posted to the exact date, but"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "once again, November 29th, we're going"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "to be in Seattle, Washington. We're"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "going to give you the exact places and"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "location where you can see the premiere"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "and upcoming coverage right here at"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "Third Phase of Moon. But we're excited"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "about your opinions. So, what do you"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "think? Is the Sasquatch real? Some of"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "the footage that I've seen in this"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "documentary, it's it's pretty"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "mind-blowing. Some of the best"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "documented video evidence of the"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "mystical creature himself."}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "American"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "Sasquatch,"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "man, myth, or monster. Everybody, keep"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "your eyes on the skies. And if you've"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "captured anything amazing, submit it to"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "us right here at Thirdphase Moon. My"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "email is in the description. See you"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "next time."}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "Welcome back to Third Phase of Moon."}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "You've got the Cousins brothers and"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "we've got incredible videos from around"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "the world. So, buckle up. Thanks for"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "being with us tonight. What are we"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "looking at? Andy captures something"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "quite incredible. Just take a look at"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "this. We're getting a kind of a"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "dimension in size. Whatever this craft"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "is definitely not a balloon, uh drone, I"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "don't think so. Do you see any prop"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "blades of any sort? I do not. We could"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "rule that out. Let's rule out drone."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "Let's rule out balloon. Let's rule out,"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "in my opinion, a man-made craft. This is"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "alien in my opinion. Alien technology."}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "Brett, right away, you're looking at it."}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "You're getting a close look at it. We're"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "zooming things in, enhancing it. That's"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "what we do at Third Phase of Moon. And"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "we got to go over it right now."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "Blake, what I like is the pops of light."}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "It's It's reflecting. The sun's hitting"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "this craft and it's capturing and"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "glinting off of it, which is which is"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "unique. It's showing its its place up in"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "the sky. I'm looking at this really"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "close. We got a great close-up footage"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "of this. The still shots are showing"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "really good detail of what we're looking"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "at. alien technology, government"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "technology. It's really hard to tell."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "It's curious. It's very intriguing,"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "Blake."}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "Absolutely. Now, we're getting more raw"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "video. The raw video's uh kind of coming"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "in via Skype. It's still downloading,"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "uploading process, but there it is."}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "I'm going to lose it."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "He lost sight of it. Okay, here's some"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "more footage right now. Let's take a"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "look."}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "Real time evidence. real-time video,"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "broad daylight sighting, and let me tell"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "you what Andy captured off the Malibu"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "coast is not blurry by any means. And we"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "could rule out all kinds of things. And"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "again, we're kind of going in the"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "direction of extraterrestrial craft. And"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "he explained that he heard no noise. He"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "was watching this as he was driving down"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "the 101 to Santa Barbara and it was"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "basically seemed like it was tracking"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "him. So, he decided to pull over and"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "videotape this with his iPhone. He's"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "He's zooming in as much as he possibly"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "can. It's pretty much maxed out. Looking"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "pretty good. Real good in my opinion."}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "Wow. Do you see that? It is glinting."}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "Beautiful."}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "What I like is Blake how he keeps track"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "of this thing till it basically goes too"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "far for him to actually see it. He says"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "it took off over the ocean towards the"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "coast and it basically disappeared from"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "his point of view where his camera"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "couldn't pick it up. You know what,"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "Blake? What I'm calling and what I'm"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "thinking right here is this thing's"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "basically a USO. Something that enters"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "the ocean from our base that's out there"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "in Malibu. There's underwater bases"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "there. We don't know if it's military."}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "We don't know if it's alien. I do think"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "this is a connection. The underwater UFO"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "base right off Malibu Blake."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "All right. Again, this uh imagery coming"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "in, you're looking closely at the bottom"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "of the UFO."}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "All right. So, let's take a look at this"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "again. Original footage to the left, the"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "zoomed in, enhanced footage to the"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "right. Let's get a still on it. And"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "there we go. We're going to zoom in. See"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "if we see any kind of propulsion device"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "that we can make sense of. Pull it up."}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "Pull it up. We got to see it up close."}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "Let's get a good closeup on it. Here we"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "go."}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "Again, no prop. propellers of any kind."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "It doesn't make any sense. So, I believe"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "this is anti-gravity technology. In your"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "face, people brought daylight. Brett,"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "any last statements here? Cuz what we're"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "looking at just defies"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "logic."}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "That's a good point, Blake. The logic"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "that we're looking at here is stunning."}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "We see this craft going behind the"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "lines. Some people would have said this"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "is hanging from the lines, below the"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "lines. But now we see proof right here."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "This is adding adding authenticity to"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "what we're seeing right here. Proof in"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "front of our eyes. A manipulation."}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "Uh hardly this is very cool, very"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "stunning. The more I look at it, the"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "more I like it. Exactly. Authentic video"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "coming in to third phase. And what I"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "like about this what I like about this"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "video is that it's pretty steady."}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "There's a lot of shaky video out there,"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "blurry video. This is about as clear as"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "clear gets in this day and age of HD"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "fully zoomed in. And I got to say this"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "is"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "good stuff. Really good. And people got"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "to share this. You got to share it"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "quick. share it around the world because"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "who else is going to tell you if you've"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "seen a UFO and it looks something like"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "this and you can't explain it? Well, at"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "least there's a video out there right"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "now that you could share to your friends"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "like this is what I saw. A metallic UFO"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "in the sky. We're going to share with"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "you something that's incredible."}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "Everybody loves the Antarctic mystery"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "and it baffles people to this day. But"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "what I'm about to show you will make you"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "wonder what the heck is going on. We're"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "going into a region here and we did some"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "study"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "and what we're about to show you uh blew"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "us away. Look at what we found down"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "here. I'm not exactly sure what it is."}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "And we're going to be zooming in a"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "little closer. I'm just getting the"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "computer loading here. But if you look"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "within the basin here, I found it. Let's"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "get down to the bottom of what exactly"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "this is. Started off with something big."}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "And have we just discovered some kind of"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "um piece of a Stargate? Look at this."}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "The symmetrics behind it, the teeth, the"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "gears. Uh it's incredible to behold. And"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "uh it doesn't look uh like nature in my"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "opinion. It looks totally what you would"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "see in engineering, some kind of"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "apparatus. Uh Brent, what's your"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "thoughts right off as we're looking at"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "this? Yeah, Blake, we're just starting"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "up and I'm really excited about to show"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "the whole area, this whole field. Uh"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "what we're looking at here is debris"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "parts. Uh possibly maybe even a piece,"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "like you said, a piece of a Stargate."}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "What we're looking at is not natural. I"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "could guarantee you that. What we're"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "looking at is something that looks like"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "it was created. By whom is a question"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "and how long ago. What sort of debris"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "field is this laying in the snow of the"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "Antarctic? And could this be possible"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "melting stages that's revealing these"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "these structures that we've never seen?"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "Yeah. The images that we're looking at"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "is as of uh 2019. So, they're recent"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "images. We're going to go back in time"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "and take a look of what's going on. But"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "as you can see, as we look at this, the"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "the mystery gets even deeper and we can"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "see more anomalies within this image."}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "What do you guys want to check out? This"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "thing or whatever these"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "Let's go to the top left."}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "Let's get to the top here."}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "Pull it up and uh right away just more"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "bizarness of something that really can't"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "be explained. We're looking at it right"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "now. And it to me it seems that"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "there could be some kind of structure"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "that's being covered up. Uh the winds"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "are revealing it, but you see these"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "shadows."}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "They're pretty extensive in my opinion."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "And they almost have a similarity about"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "them. Could it be ancient ruins from a"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "lot civilization long ago? Yeah, look at"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "that. They seem to be protruding from"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "the snow, casting shadows. And obviously"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "looking at the snow and the winds seem"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "to be blanketing these kind of"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "structures that stand out out of this"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "fill the snow. Whatever's popping out is"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "is a real deal. Look at Look at that. It"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "It seems to be"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "falling to the top right up there. We"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "got one, two, three, four, five, six,"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "seven. It looks like we approximately"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "have about 10 structures, buildings"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "partially covered up in the snow. I'm"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "wondering if uh the images coming in in"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "Google 2020 around the corner if it's"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "going to reveal more of what this"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "mystery uh develops into. But right now,"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "we're going to get into this other"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "anomaly that's within I call and Brent's"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "calling it the debris field. And this"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "looks again very out of place. is has no"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "relevance to its surroundings other than"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "it's a natural in my opinion and it"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "again it looks like it's embedded into"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "the snow and it looks like it almost"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "crash landed into it. You can see the"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "entry point or could that possibly just"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "be the wind cap. Is it a rock pop uh"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "popping out of the surface or is is this"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "metallic?"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "Again, look at that reaching shadow"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "casting on top of the left side of this"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "object. Whatever it is, it's it's a good"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "shot. I do like seeing the trajectory."}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "It looks like it was a crash site and it"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "left evidence in the snow. Or again,"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "could it just be a possible direction of"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "the trade winds in that particular area"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "creating this uh debris of snow that"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "leaves its its trail? Yeah, we have the"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "tail pile behind it. And again, it"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "confirms to me that there is some kind"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "of anomaly that went down like something"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "from outer space must have or possibly"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "have just crashed long ago in the"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "Antarctic or is this a possible"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "remnant of a lost civilization? Because"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "when you look at this, it looks like"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "again it's out of place. It doesn't"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "really have any uh business being there."}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "But what's crazy about it is that it's"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "next to this Stargate. It's almost like"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "maybe there was a colony that once"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "existed here. We're going to do a little"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "fly over and 3D it here and take a look."}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "But Brett, what do you think? A lost"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "civilization? Is this a colony of some"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "sort? Yeah, it's a good perspective"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "right there. It it creates a symmetry of"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "what's happening. You could almost see a"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "line like there's a road that leads"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "directly into this compound or or"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "ancient civilization of"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "You're exactly right. Look at this road"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "right here. It seems that this has been"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "uh excavated to create a massive road,"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "but has been covered up by snow, a"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "longlost civilization"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "uh being revealed possibly for the first"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "time through these images coming in."}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "It's incredible. And then you have these"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "little roads. This to me seems like it'd"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "be big enough to land the largest"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "aircraft that we know of. C17s, military"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "craft. Now we're getting the bigger"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "picture. I got a feeling this is some"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "kind of ancient airport that's being"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "discovered. It's again, look at this. It"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "looks like a hometown. The way it's"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "organized with your crossroads and"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "landing strip and it seems like there's"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "different parts of the community. It"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "could be an establishment, a place of"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "worship."}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "And that Stargate broke in piece if"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "that's what it is just right not too far"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "away. And again, you could see that it"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "seems like it"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "pretty much crashlanded into it and"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "broke apart or maybe uh left out there,"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "but whatever it is, it's very bizarre."}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "Uh Brent, I want to get your thoughts of"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "again what this is because u I'm"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "scratching my head. This is it natural."}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "Yeah, it's good looking at the both of"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "the close-up imagery and also when he"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "pull back it gives a a sense of scope."}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "Could he pull the camera back as we pan"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "over this? Just it kind of it just look"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "there's nothing in that particular area."}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "It all seems to be a conjunction of of a"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "of an establishment of ancient"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "civilization."}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "I want to get your thoughts people from"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "around the world. We're looking at this"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "uh for the first time. We've explored"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "it. Is this an ancient road, a massive"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "air strip? And then you have the little"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "roads that lead to individual anomalies,"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "a civilization, a small colony that"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "breaking news just in."}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "We're going to be speaking with Mrs."}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "Stevens sharing this footage all the way"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "from Southern California. We're looking"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "at multiple photographs, video angles of"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "the same event happening in real time."}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "While we uh we reached out to Mrs."}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "Steven, she returned our call and we got"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "her right here at Thirdphase Moon. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "welcome."}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "Hi."}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "All right. You sound a"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "Yep. Hey. Hey. Thanks a lot. Thanks for"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "joining us. Tell us, how did this go"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "down? Um, did you capture this today and"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "who was with you at the time?"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "No."}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "Go ahead. Yep. I know. It's quite a It's"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "an amazing capture that you captured."}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "We're looking at it. It looks like a"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "flying saucer."}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "Yeah. So, my niece noticed this"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "really"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "object in the sky and we started um we"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "started to video it and uh videotape it."}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "I've never seen anything like that. It"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "was just I don't"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "It was amazing."}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "Wow. You know, the video lasts for about"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "30 or so seconds. How"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "Were there other people in the same area"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "that noticed this thing or was"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "Really?"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "Oh, yes."}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "Yes."}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "So, there's multiple videos that uh you"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "think other people may have"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "I'm sure there must be. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "there must be other videos."}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "Well, we're looking at the video right"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "now and it just shoots off like"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "Yeah, it just"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "tell us about that."}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "In a second, it was gone like a blink."}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "That's what we're seeing right now. It"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "is uh quite incredible. We uh we're"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "analyzing the video, Miss Stevens."}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "Oh, really?"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "Yep. And with your uh niec's video that"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "you sent us along with these"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "photographs, it's kind of a overwhelming"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "going over it right now, but this the"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "way it blinks out just like hyperspace,"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "a supersonic jump. Let me ask you, did"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "this thing make any noise whatsoever"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "from the beginning and the end?"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "No, I didn't hear anything, any sounds."}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "It was quiet. So after the event was"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "done, were you looking around? What were"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "other people doing? What was the scene?"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "They were looking at their videos that"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "they just took."}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "And looking at the sky trying to see if"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "it would come back, but no, it's gone."}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "It was gone. It left."}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "Miss Stevens, how did you uh Let me ask"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "you this. Did do you believe in ET UFOs?"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "Did you have any experiences like this"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "before? What was your thoughts?"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "Government, extraterrestrial?"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "I don't know. I just felt like um I just"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "thought they were extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "visitors, you know, checking us out or"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "something."}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "Really? What about uh your niece?"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "She kept saying it's a UFO. Look, look,"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "Auntie. There's a UFO. She was just"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "Yeah. just all excited."}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "Yeah. Tell us about this. There's"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "there's really loud music back in the"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "background and we had to delete or mute"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "the audio kind of there's some swearing"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "going on so we decided to mute it. So,"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "but yeah, we could hear it that you're"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "Oh,"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "we got Brent Cousins here. He wants to"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "ask a question to you. Go ahead, Brent."}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "Yes, Miss Stevens. Thanks for joining"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "us. This UFO, it's it's amazing. It's"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "outstanding. It's very large. It must"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "have felt overwhelming when it was"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "coming over you guys. What was I'm just"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "trying to get the essence of your"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "feeling when this came over you."}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "Oh my god, it was it was awesome. It was"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "my heart's still beating just thinking"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "about it being so fast."}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "It was uh I keep looking at the sky a"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "lot now."}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "It's happening right now. Southern coast"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "of California is a hot spot and it's"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "been go been hot. What I'm happy about,"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "Brent, is that people share their videos"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "right here at Thirdphase and we're able"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "to get it out to the world real fast."}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "This was captured in Napa Valley."}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "Dolores notices something in the sky,"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "something silent. She pulls over. She"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "captures this. Take a look."}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "Dolores is stunned in silence as she"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "captures this incredible"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "display of what looks to be a metallic"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "flying saucer."}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "A broad daylight capture. A classic"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "flying saucer. It doesn't look like a"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "drone in my opinion. No propellers of"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "any kind. CGI. I got to rule it out."}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "Whatever she captured in Napa Valley."}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "Looks very genuine to me. Brett, what do"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "you make of this? Look, I like the way"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "she puts in her description. She parked"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "her minivan on the side of the road. She"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "pulled her iPhone and bam, this thing"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "flies right over her. And she captures"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "it with quite some good detail. She"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "keeps her hand steady. Good job,"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "Dolores. And what we're looking at is"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "something simply"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "mind-blowing. This is incredible. It"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "does definitely look like a disc. And if"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "people say it's a drone, well, I ask"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "you, if you look at drones,"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "typical drones, they fly by and if they"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "come to a stop, the body of itself will"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "actually oscillate. This thing stays"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "dead center. There is no oscillation."}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "This thing's solid. Whatever is"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "propelling it, it seems like it"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "it's holding itself within its within"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "the craft. Some sort of body of energy,"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "what propels a UFO?"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "Absolutely. You see some kind of energy"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "source coming off the bottom of this"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "thing. Could this be the power source of"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "whatever is making this seem to defy"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "gravity? It is defying gravity in my"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "opinion. Dolores states that there is no"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "sound whatsoever. And you could hear in"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "the video, she's very silent. She states"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "in an email that she sent me that she"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "was very, very uh concerned and she"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "didn't want to bring any attention to"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "it, so she kept mum during this capture."}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "Dolores also says she had a pretty good"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "perspective on how large this craft was"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "as it passed over her car. There are"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "some trees in foreground and in the"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "background. So, she estimates it to be"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "about the size of a small SUV. Just"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "about big enough to hold one or two"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "people in it. So, whatever it is, it's"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "not that big, but it is impressive."}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "Also, she states it zoomed by and over"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "the car, and that was the last she saw"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "of it. Wow. Dolores, thank you for"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "submitting your incredible uh footage."}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "I'd have to say it is one of the best"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "flying saucer broad daylight sightings"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "I've ever seen and I hope the world"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "shares this right now. Appreciate you"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "guys joining us across the United States"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "and across the world on a daily basis as"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "the UFO footage comes in. We're going to"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "share it to you. We're not going to slow"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "down. We're going to give it to you as"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "fast as we receive it. So, thanks"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "everybody for joining us. Appreciate"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "everybody in the live chat. You guys be"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "safe. Take care. Blake Cousins. Thanks,"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "Brent. We'll see you next time."}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "Heat. Heat."}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "Heat. Heat."}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "Welcome back to Third Phase of Moon."}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "You've got the Cousins brothers and"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "we've got incredible videos from around"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "the world. So, buckle up. Thanks for"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "being with us tonight. What are we"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "looking at coming in from Brazil? Two"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "videos from Brazil. Let's get to it"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "right now of what looks to be a vammana,"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "a strange craft in the sky captured in"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "HD. Take a look at this."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "We're going to take some stills off the"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "original video. Let's get a close look"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "at whatever this golden chariot is. Some"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "people are calling this the vmana."}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "The vimmanas known in ancient India were"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "powered by anti-gravity. They took off"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "vertically and were capable of hovering"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "in the sky like a modern helicopter."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "These ancient scripts hold exquisite"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "details of 70 authorities and 10 experts"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "of air travel in antiquity. It is"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "presumed that some of these texts also"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "might talk about interplanetary travel"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "but that will be revealed in due course"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "of time when translators will be able to"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "comprehend these manuscripts. However,"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "the great Indian epic Ramayana holds a"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "description of a trip to the moon in a"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "vana and the battle fought on the"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "surface of the moon with an airship."}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "Fought on the surface of the moon with"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "an airship. Wow. Are we looking at a"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "vana captured in Brazil? Incredible"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "imagery. I want to get your people's"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "opinions below. Definitely leave your"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "comments. Thumbs this up. And if you"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "have friends that aren't believers, you"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "might want to show them this, right?"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "What do you make of this incredible"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "video? What"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "like this is like nothing I've ever seen"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "before. It's very unique in"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "characteristics and it does very much"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "resemble of a mana. There are strange"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "aspects to this thing. What keeps it"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "afloat is a big question. When you look"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "at this, we are in New Mexico right now."}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "There's this circular pattern."}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "Obviously, it looks like a target spot"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "military in design for sure. But when"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "you get to the center of it, there's"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "something very strange. Two triangular"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "craft basically parked next to each"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "other. When we're looking at this, uh,"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "we're kind of scratching our heads. What"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "is this all about? Some people are"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "actually speculating. What we are seeing"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "up here is some kind of transportation"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "uh, vehicle, some kind of car, jeep. Not"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "exactly sure if that's the case or not,"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "but we are looking at these uh two"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "triangular objects. And you could"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "definitely make out some kind of a"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "metallic sheen coming off of this. And"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "if you look at this one to the upper top"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "here, it's definitely casting a long"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "shadow. I would say the craft ends about"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "right about there. But casting this long"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "shadow gives some kind of relevance."}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "It's mass size. Take a look at this"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "place. It's I would have to say let's"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "let's get some distance and see what"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "we're looking at here. From this end to"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "here, it's about uh 930 m. So, it is"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "definitely pretty large, I'd have to"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "say. But what's really weird is when you"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "go back to other dates on Google itself,"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "it's it's interesting because"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "we want to go back in time as we do on"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "Google Maps in 2009, it's it's not"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "there. And what's really strange is when"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "I first searched these coordinates,"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "Google uh the Google Earth Pro, the new"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "Google Earth didn't really recognize it."}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "So, I had to go through a a few"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "different ways to try and actually find"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "this location. Let's see how far back"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "this basically"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "target spot definitely for the military."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "The Hollowman Air Force Base is uh very"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "close by. So, I would think this is"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "target practice in my opinion, but"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "there's no uh indication of the"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "triangular object when we get to the"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "center of it. Let's see what what do we"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "got here? It there's nothing there. But"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "when you go to 2013,"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "this thing pops up. And what I really"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "like about it is when you look at it on"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "3D maps,"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "as we survey over the landscape over"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "here, there is a road as we can see. And"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "when you get in a closer look, again,"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "people are speculating that this is some"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "kind of car. So, it definitely is a"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "mystery to me. Take a look at what just"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "came in. VRGmail coming in from William"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "Bennett. It's getting crazy what's going"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "on on the surface of the moon. We got"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "things that are going to blow your mind,"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "but this is a closeup photo"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "of a Nikon 1000 major telephoto zoom,"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "and he captured some kind of anomaly"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "embedded within the crater that doesn't"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "look normal at all. What could it be?"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "Well, that's the big question. We have"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "moon anomalies captured by NASA. to"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "themselves. But this is coming in from"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "an amateur, a person that's just looking"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "at the moon themselves. And I think this"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "is where full disclosure"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "will break what's going down via the big"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "cover up. And here is the photographic"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "evidence shared right here at Third"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "Phase of Moon. And we got to thank"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "Willian Bennett with his incredible"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "photographs. And what we're looking at,"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "not exactly sure, but I got Brent"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "Cousins with us and he's scratching his"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "head. I don't know what's going on."}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "Yeah, Blake, check these out. These"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "high-res photos, and we're zooming up on"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "this dome inside a crater. I've seen"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "these before, but nothing like this,"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "Blake. When we get in close, it's such a"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "great photo. And the high-res gives us"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "the opportunity to look at that dome."}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "Look at the orange tint, the patina to"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "this thing. And it looks like it's being"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "held up some sort of platform. Do you"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "notice that, Blake? I I do like what"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "we're looking at. This is I would have"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "to say the best photo of any evidence of"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "anything that could portray a secret"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "space program on the moon. Blake with"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "videos coming in on a daily basis from"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "the moon. I have to say there's these"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "standouts, these anomalies that just"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "pass over the surface of the moon. Then"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "the crater below, you could see this"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "maybe substation developing on the"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "surface just within the crater. I don't"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "know if there's some kind of correlation"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "between the both of them, but you could"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "tell again it does not look normal. This"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "is something that could be"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "extraterrestrial. And I want to get your"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "thoughts, people, what are we looking at"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "right here? Because right now, we're"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "still scratching our heads and I'm sure"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "NASA doesn't have any answers. Let's go"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "to Area 51. Some people are speculating"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "what we just discovered in recent times"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "that this could be some kind of vent or"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "a tower embedded within a crater close"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "to Area 51. Yeah, we noticed Area 51."}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "It's a huge bombing range. A lot of"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "nuclear explosions that were created"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "back in the 40s and 50s, testing ranges."}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "Look at this crater. You could tell that"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "it's been dug out. It's It's a little"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "bit more deep. And definitely they're"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "carving it out. And this is how bases"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "are made. Could this be an air vent to"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "the secret facility of Area 51? Some"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "people have speculated and people that"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "have called into Third Phase Moon that"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "Area 51 itself is a massive city beneath"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "the ground. Many, many levels over 100"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "that we've heard. Could this be a"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "ventilation system for Area 51? I don't"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "know. It definitely looks very uh"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "similar to a ventilation system, but"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "then out of character in the middle of a"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "crater cop."}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "Yeah. I mean, for real, it has it it"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "shouldn't be there. It shouldn't exist,"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "but it does. Uh it it looks about the"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "size of a grain tower or something. I"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "mean, that thing that structure is"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "obviously massive, so uh who knows what"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "it is. And obviously no no one can go"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "there and and even find out. Uh but and"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "these pictures that you guys have are um"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "are actually really great pictures of"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "you can really see the detail of this"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "thing. There's something definitely"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "sticking out of there. There's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "times when going on Google Earth where"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "people can get confused by the by the"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "image uh and mistake it for stuff, but"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "with the the 3D rendering, there's no"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "way you can that's definitely that's"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "definitely there. Absolutely."}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "Something's there. And obviously it is"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "off limits to the public. We're"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "wondering what it is. And I got a"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "feeling Brett's right. Is some kind of"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "ventilation system to work with the"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "underground base that's hidden"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "underneath Area 51 itself. And it goes"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "many, many chambers below. This comes in"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "from Russia. What are we looking at?"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "Listen to this."}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "It's not making any sound whatsoever. I"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "don't think it's a drone or"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "I don't know. I'm just scratching my"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "head. Can you guys make out what we're"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "looking at here?"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "Yeah. Let's take a still from this right"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "now. Let's get a closer look at what"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "we're looking at. Is Could this be like"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "a weather monitoring"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "balloon? I don't see no tether on it."}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "You'd think it would just drift away."}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "This thing's staying stationary. And"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "this guy's got a really good look at it."}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "It almost looks like there's a 360"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "circular thing and then a triangular"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "object as well embedded into each other."}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "It's very weird, obscure. I've never"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "seen any kind of weather balloon drone"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "like this. This is a great broad"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "daylight UFO sighting"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "yet some size. It looks like maybe the"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "size of a small vehicle. It almost looks"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "like there's portals in there. These"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "black round circular portals."}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "Very strange."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "I like the way the cameraman actually"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "observes this. Manages to capture a"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "really clear shot. Very good video"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "coming out of Russia. Again, I I have no"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "explanation what this is. That's why"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "we're putting it out right now. Third"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "phase of moon. I want to get your guys'"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "comments. What do you think this object"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "is? Is this some extraterrestrial craft?"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "Again, a still photo."}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "Try to make it out."}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "Very, very strange. All right, guys. We"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "got a good one. We have a really good"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "sighting. I want to share it with you"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "right now. Third phase moon. This video"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "lasts for a long time. We're going to"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "roll with it. It approximately lasts for"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "about almost 10 minutes. This is"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "astounding footage. Broad daylight. A"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "flying saucer. What is it? It's"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "definitely not a drone. We don't see any"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "propellers of any kind. The"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "eyewitnesses, there was no sound"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "whatsoever. We had to mute the sound"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "because there's a lot of music and"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "vulgar language going on in the"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "background. Uh maybe uh copyright"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "infringement. So, we had to mute the"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "audio. Unfortunately, if you see a UFO"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "sighting, turn down the background music"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "in on your radio or whatever is going on"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "because we want to share your reaction"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "of whatever this is. But whatever was"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "captured"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "is one of the best flying saucer footage"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "I've ever seen. Take a look at this."}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "All right, let's pull up a still and"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "zoom in. And uh wow, what are we looking"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "at? You could almost make out patterns"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "beneath this uh saucer shaped craft in"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "the sky. alien. In my opinion, this is"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "definitely not a drill break. What is"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "the background behind this? Let's take a"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "look at this in real time. Like, that"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "still just really did everything for"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "what we're looking at here. It shows"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "that there's no technology, no mechanics"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "within this ship. This thing's hovering"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "on its own with technology that we're"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "not familiar with. This is amazing."}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "Like this is a little shaky and out of"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "focus at points, but man, when Raphael"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "catches"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "in focus,"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "we got something that's amazing."}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "Something that's undeniable,"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "otherworldly, light."}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "All right, let's just roll with the"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "footage. This is a There's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "video coming in. This was a massive file"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "size. I would have to say it's about 2"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "GB in HD footage of a flying craft in"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "the sky. That"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "definitely looks like a flying saucer. A"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "classic one. Take a look."}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "Wow. Look at that. We got to steal."}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "Again, this is something like Billy"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "Meyers, but we all know Billy Myers is"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "so controversial and his limited access"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "to new information is is something to"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "say. Yep. Definitely a lot of"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "controversy behind Billy Meyer and his"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "footage. We've spoken with uh his his uh"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "American correspondents. His name is uh"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "Mr. Horn and he came on Third Phase Moon"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "and wanted to explain Billy Meyer's"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "encounters. But I got saying what"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "Raphael captured looks exactly like a"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "Billy Meyer UFO book. We invite"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "everybody to take a look at this analyze"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "the footage. This thing is hovering in"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "midair."}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "Transmission completed."}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "Blake, I see other objects. It's flying"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "around this. I think these are birds."}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "It's showing motion. It's moving"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "and holding still. He's got a really"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "good grasp of what we got here. He's"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "holding it steady."}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "This thing's just hovering there."}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "confirmed."}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "Yeah, most drones"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "if you look at them very closely and"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "we're zooming in close and we're he"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "absolutely captures it in uh clarity"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "whatever it is and you see no propellers"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "of any any sort. Look at this. Look at"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "It just hovers there. Is this some kind"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "of new anti-gravity uh device that has"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "yet to be revealed to the world? I I"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "think Donald Trump just mentioned today"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "that there's new technology"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "beyond belief and it's going to change"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "the world. Is this what he's referring"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "to? This is uh incredible breaking news."}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "You got to share this with your friends"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "right now. Let's roll with the video."}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "Raphael was there with his father and"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "that's who you see right at the"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "beginning of the film. He was astonished"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "and I'm astonished too what we're"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "looking at. This thing is"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "it's so compelling to say the least. I"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "need a"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "It just went right over his head. Oh my"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "god, that's amazing."}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "We're watching it for the first time"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "with you right now. Third phase of moon"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "and the people from around the world."}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "Welcome everybody joining us. Uh this is"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "it's late at night. I just wanted to get"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "this out to you. Everybody, our friends"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "from around the world that want to"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "believe want to believe we're not alone."}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "This video is definitely a great"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "evidence of something that displays"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "anti-gravity power. There is no sound"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "coming off this whatsoever. Look at"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "this. It goes right over Raphael's head."}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "Zooms by"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "control. This is flight. We're tracking"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "three fast moving objects. Uh origin"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "unknown."}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "He manages to uh hold it steady. This is"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "almost a 10-minute encounter of this"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "flying disc performing maneuvers that we"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "can't explain. Wow. B. This is This has"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "got it. Look at Look at the dimension"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "with the telephone pole. This thing is"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "maybe the size of SUV. Like you said, I"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "would imagine that at least two humans"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "could fit in there. Two full full-sized"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "humans about 6 ft each"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "could sit in that cockpit and just hover"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "over there. Is this new uh drone"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "technology break uh without props? I"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "don't think so."}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "Like I'm speechless at the moment. I'm"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "just going to hold on and watch this."}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "Everybody just keep watching."}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "There it is. It just showed a little bit"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "more scale right there and a little bit"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "more clarity. This thing's getting"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "close. This thing's"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "seems to pass over and over"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "right above their heads. I would be in"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "shock seeing something like this"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "control. This is flight. We're tracking"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "three fast moving object"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "now. It's static in the sky. Look at"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "this. You could It's very clear. It's uh"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "Is this some kind of new uh drone that"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "we have never seen or is this something"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "from the Roswell crash reverse"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "engineered? Because this looks exactly"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "like what Bob Lazar has been talking"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "about all these years of these discike"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "craft"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "using alien technology reverse"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "engineered alien tech."}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "I'm I'm just amazed by this video."}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "Let's roll with it."}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "on the three objects."}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "Blake, first off, we've been seeing the"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "evidence and now it's been going on for"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "about 7 minutes now and I don't see any"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "propellers,"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "no real technology that could keep this"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "thing up in the sky. Drones have all"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "sorts of battery cables, wires,"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "lighting. We don't see none of that."}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "the International Space Station. Take a"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "look at this. What are we looking at?"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "Captured at 2:26 a.m. International"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "Space Station time. A live feed captures"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "some kind of anomalous craft hiding"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "behind the ISS and it disappears in the"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "full sunlight spectrum. What the heck"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "are we looking at? This video was"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "submitted to us by Anomalies, the real"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "deal. He's got a YouTube channel and he"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "keeps a close eye and we're happy that"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "he's sharing this video right now on"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "third phase of moon. We're looking at"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "this once again. As you can see,"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "whatever this craft is basically"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "dematerializes or takes off. But once"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "again, in clarity, full clarity, we see"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "this craft"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "of unknown origin make an appearance."}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "And that's the solar array right there"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "coming in from the ISS from below. But"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "once again, we got a good closeup. I'm"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "going to take a photo of the still video"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "image and see if I could enhance it."}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "Bring some sharpness and brightness and"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "contrast. This is amazing what's going"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "on around the International Space"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "Station. Look at this. Once again, it's"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "slightly rotating. I take another still"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "photograph"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "as we're looking at this. Once again,"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "that's a solar ray panel from the"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "International Space Station on the"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "bottom left hand as it's rotating up."}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "This video lasted for 9 minutes. So, I"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "sped it up to give a little bit of"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "bigger picture in my opinion of this"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "event in a little less than about 18"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "seconds or so. So, again, this video"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "lasts for about 9 minutes. But as I"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "speed it up, we see this thing rotating."}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "I'm taking another still here and I've"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "got Brent here and I want to get his"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "opinions. What the heck is going on?"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "Yeah, Blake. This is some of the best"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "stuff I've seen all year. This is"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "amazing. What is NASA going to say about"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "this? I bet they're going to try to tuck"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "it away as usual, but we're looking at a"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "craft that seems uh otherworldly. We see"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "edges on it and uh certain uh shapes to"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "this craft that doesn't seem to match"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "anything in our arsenal. I like the way"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "this thing just disappears and kind of"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "maybe take off at some extreme rate."}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "What is NASA looking at when they're"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "looking out their windows? Are they"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "seeing this object? Are they going to"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "tell us is a big question. Notice this"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "craft kind of reflect the solar flare"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "itself. This thing looks metallic. The"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "underbelly of it, it's highlighting the"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "solar flare panels. Whatever this thing"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "is, I don't believe uh it's a"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "reflection. What we're seeing is"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "something real, something metallic, uh"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "something otherworldly. This is out of"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "sight. I got to say, uh you seen it here"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "first on Third Phase Moon. Make sure if"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "you see this anywhere, tell them where"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "it came from. We're glad you're joining"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "us. Take a look at this new video."}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "What the heck is going on? This is one"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "of the most bizarre UFO videos that I've"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "seen in a long time. You could clearly"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "see this palm tree shaped craft is"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "behind the power lines and I got to say"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "it's quite large and it is creepy to say"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "the least."}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "A black ominous um figure up there. Some"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "people might say humanoid with some"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "weird wings on it. I'm not exactly sure"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "what's going on, but I'm glad that we're"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "sharing it with you right now. I'm going"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "to have to say this is Bizario. I might"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "even put that in the title tonight"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "because it looks exactly like palm trees"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "as you would see on the ground, but it"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "doesn't make sense. We're seeing it in"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "the sky. Is this some kind of glitch?"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "Some people might say it's a glitch in"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "the Matrix. Brett, what's your thoughts"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "here? Yeah, this is weird, man. It's"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "creepy. We're looking at this thing just"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "uh kind of just hover above those power"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "lines and it just seems to move with"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "kind of a its own force. It's just"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "undulating right there. You don't see"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "the thing really morph. It It's rather"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "static. Could this be CGI? Oh, I like"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "the camera work. It seems like it's"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "moving correctly. Again, it looks uh"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "real to me. It looks like it was"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "captured in-house."}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "Absolutely. And I like the way it's very"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "stationary as it rises, but the"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "characteristics of the craft seems"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "pretty stable. And I I see a little bird"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "fly by. So, I could estimate that this"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "thing to be possibly maybe 15 to maybe"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "20 to 25 ft in length. Incredible stuff."}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "And I know the world is watching and"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "you're joining us tonight from around"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "the world. You want to see the UFO"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "videos? We got more for you. So, take a"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "look at these incredible ring cam"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "footage of two UFOs moving at very fast"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "speeds. I'm just looking at it in real"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "time. We get a lot of videos and it's"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "hard to uh you know go over them and"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "have any words to say to what we're"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "looking at because again more evidence"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "these two dark eyes super quick. Let's"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "watch it again real time. Let's slow it"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "down."}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "I don't see any strobing or FAA lights"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "on it. I don't see any wings."}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "They almost resemble tic tacs. Here's"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "the other shot from another angle of one"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "object with the flight characteristics"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "that equal these right here. Look at"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "this,"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "Brett. What's your thoughts? Yeah, I"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "like the way these cylindrical objects"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "are illuminating the bottom ground. You"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "can see the trees highlighted and as"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "these pass by, whatever it is, it's it's"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "projecting light. And that's"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "interesting. Could it be just overblown"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "light from the rain cam itself? And it's"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "kind of a pushing so much light out of"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "it that we can't see what the structure"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "is. But this is weird. They travel in"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "formation. They're really low to the"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "ground. And if this is helicopters going"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "over our neighborhood, that'd be way too"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "low. What are we looking at? This is"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "incredible stuff. I like the ring cam"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "footage when they do come in. And uh if"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "you got anything cool that looks like"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "this, send it our way."}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "appreciate you guys joining us across"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "the United States and across the world"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "on a daily basis as the UFO footage"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "comes in. We're going to share it to"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "you. We're not going to slow down. We're"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "going to give it to you as fast as we"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "receive it. So, thanks everybody for"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "joining us. Appreciate everybody in the"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "live chat. You guys be safe. Take care."}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "Blake Cousins. Thanks, Brent. We'll see"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "you next time."}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "Heat. Heat."}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "Heat. Heat."}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "Welcome back to Third Phase of Moon."}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "You've got the Cousins brothers and"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "we've got incredible videos from around"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "the world. So, buckle up. Thanks for"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "being with us tonight. What are we"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "looking at?"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "Do it."}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "I'm digging this one. We got a good look"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "at it and we're seeing this cylindrical"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "shape again. these flying craft that"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "make really no sense of propulsion."}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "They're basically define gravity. The"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "flight characteristics seem intelligent."}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "It has a kind of a purpose of where it's"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "going. We're going to get a couple looks"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "at this. Now, we got contrast with some"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "contrast to make it pop. You can see"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "that again this object is traversing the"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "skies. It's a beautiful day. It's a"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "great capture. You can see the clouds,"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "the cumulus clouds. And what comes up"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "next is going to blow your mind. We see"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "the craft just moving. And watch this."}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "We get a closeup and you see another"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "traveler. Could that be a drone? It's"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "hard to tell, but it seems like another"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "anomaly up in the sky while we're"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "capturing this great evidence right here"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "at Third Phase. What's your thoughts in"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "the chat? What is this? Again, we we"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "need to look at this a little closer and"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "longer. Anybody out there? Have you seen"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "a craft like this? You let us know."}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "Again, we don't see propulsion of any"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "any sort. We don't see any trail that's"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "leading behind it, leaving a wake of"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "exhaust. We don't see any wings, which"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "again leans to something that seems"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "otherworldly. Again, we know about the"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "tic tac, and this kind of has a"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "resemblance of the tic tac itself. Most"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "definitely. Could this be it?"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "Do I have to throw it out there too as"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "well? Could this be somebody's piece of"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "work? A CGI? That's a possibility, but"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "I'm really not seeing it. I see the"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "rotation of the camera and and kind of"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "the zoom in capability would be"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "difficult to pull off in CGI. You"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "basically notice it. Everything seems to"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "be matching in a coordinates. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "leaning towards this being the real"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "deal. Now, let's get up to this next"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "video. This another one really has us"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "scratching our head. Check it out. We"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "notice the two orbs up there just"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "floating in the sky. At first I thought"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "this could be just maybe Chinese"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "lanterns, but then we see this anomaly,"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "this fading of light. It kind of just"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "like it feels transparent, something"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "weird, organic up in the sky. Very"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "curious sighting. Makes me wonder what's"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "going on around the world. These"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "captures that are coming in so fast. It"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "makes you think, could they not be"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "hiding anymore? That's what we've been"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "saying recently, and I'm leaning towards"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "that being the truth. Now, let's get to"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "this other interesting video here. Check"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "it out. Here's a good closeup. We can"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "see these lights against strange"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "atmospheric phenomenon. Could this be"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "what we're looking at? We see these"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "pulsating white orbs of light that are"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "seem what seems like they're connected"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "like it's basically a one craft itself."}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "And again, we're not seeing drone"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "capabilities or techniques. It's a weird"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "sighting. And I'm leaning towards this"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "being again something that's"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "unexplained. UAPs, UFOs, you call it"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "what you want. We're looking at"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "something. It's a phenomenon."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "You may have seen this before, but we're"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "going to check it out again because"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "there's something about this that's"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "always fascinated me. Look at the colors"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "and the look of it. It almost reminds me"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "of the close encounters moving. You see"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "this bluish white light to the left that"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "creates this kind of fog light look"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "that's maybe it's going into the clouds"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "that's creating this effect and then you"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "see the other orb following it. It's"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "just a curious video. I really like this"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "one. What's your thoughts? This has been"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "around for some time. Is this legit?"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "Because if it is, it's fantastic"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "footage. Some people have stated that"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "this is maybe a reflection in the glass"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "and that somebody's just trying to pull"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "a fast one. And that's a possibility,"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "but I'm liking the camera work and the"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "shaking of the camera to have something"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "projected on the glass. You would see"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "parallaxing. This seems to be stuck up"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "in the sky and it's static. Could it"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "also be CGI? Again, that's a possibility"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "itself, but I'm on the fence, but I"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "wanted to share it with you guys. What's"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "your opinion? Now, let's get to this"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "next video. Check this out."}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "cigar- shaped UFOs over the planes. This"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "is a really good capture. The person"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "that's actually filming it is doing a"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "really good job. He's holding it steady"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "under the circumstances. Unfortunately,"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "it goes behind the building. We don't"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "get much more of what was captured. But"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "again, we see this cylindrical like"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "object just floating in the sky. And uh"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "again, I don't see a gondola on this to"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "represent maybe a blip, a Goodyear"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "blimp. This looks like something"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "different. Could it be another new"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "hybrid of balloons? That's a"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "possibility, a weather apparatus that"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "we're not familiar with. But then again,"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "we are talking UFOs and I'm looking at"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "something that's unidentified. So, I'm"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "liking this one a lot. This is cool"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "because we're getting these uh on a"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "constant rate, these cigar- shaped UFOs."}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "If you missed last night's episode, you"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "might want to check that out because"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "there's a pretty good one that was on"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "there, especially the one that we just"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "played earlier. there. It's just they're"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "coming in masses and sometimes they're"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "unidentified and sometimes we call it"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "for what it is. This one again is very"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "cool UFO. Now, we're going to follow up"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "with something that was discovered on"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "the moon during the Apollo landing, and"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "this one kind of caught our attention,"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "and I think you'll find it rather"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "interesting. These high-res photos"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "reveal something on the lunar surface."}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "Check this out. sharing this right now"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "to the world. There is a big mystery."}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "What are we looking at? Some people are"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "saying this is some kind of Stargate"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "that opened up for a split second. We"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "have two photographs and right there is"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "the Apollo 17 mission just above the"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "lunar surface making its way to landing"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "on the moon. Did we land on the moon?"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "Well, some people say we didn't, but"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "that's another story altogether. Now,"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "we've got this photograph. And again,"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "we're going to pan to the left, and some"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "people are saying this mysterious object"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "appeared out of nowhere. We have the"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "evidence to prove this theory right now."}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "Take a look at this. We're going to back"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "up again, get a good look at the whole"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "picture surrounding this mystery. What"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "is this circular object? Okay, a few"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "seconds before this photograph. And then"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "we're zooming in. This is two or 3"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "seconds before the shot with whatever"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "this circular object was. Now it's gone."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "All right, we're going to do some"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "enhancements here. It's a bit tricky,"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "but we're going to try and line it up as"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "best as possible with the craters and"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "the lunar surface. And boom. Here we go."}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "Take a look at this. Side by side"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "comparisons. Within two seconds, the"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "object is there. Prior to the shot, it"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "is gone. What is going on here? Could"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "have this just popped out in existence"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "to observe the Apollo mission 17. Uh"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "Brett, what's your thoughts here? This"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "is outstanding."}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "Yeah, whatever it is, Blake, you can"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "tell that it's actually there. Look at"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "that sideby-side comparison of it"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "actually disappearing. Whatever this is,"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "this circular object leaves a shadow and"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "then you see it's gone right here within"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "moments of the Apollo 17 flying over."}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "All right, we're going to pull it back"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "up again. Uh the original photograph."}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "Okay, this is the second photograph"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "where you see this circular object over"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "there to the left just kind of hiding uh"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "behind the hills there on the moon."}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "Again, it almost looks like a black"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "donut or some kind of wheel. Again, you"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "kind of see some kind of weird"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "anomaly on top of it. Yeah, this is"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "good. I like this closeup. It's an"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "amazing photo if it's real deal. Um,"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "this is quite exciting. What we're"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "looking at that circular object, how big"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "is it? I'd compare it to we're looking"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "at the Apollo 17. This thing's got to be"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "pretty big. I would say at least 24 ft,"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "maybe even bigger. 30 ft. I see no trail"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "either. Did it How did it appear? Did it"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "roll into place?"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "Yeah, no impact whatsoever. Again,"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "here's the photograph right before and"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "then after. We're doing the sideby-side"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "comparisons. Again, this mystery just uh"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "continues. And I don't think NASA has"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "yet to explain exactly what this anomaly"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "is. Okay, so we're going to again zoom"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "up on the exact location and do the"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "sideby-side comparison. It was a bit"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "tricky to get these two photographs to"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "line up exactly, but we managed to pull"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "it off. And then after further"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "investigation, doing the analysis of"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "these photographs, we could do this"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "sideby-side comparison and prove that"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "this thing just basically dropped out of"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "the sky or appeared out of nowhere. Is"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "it coming maybe from uh within the lunar"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "surface itself and doing kind of like a"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "peekab-boo on the Apollo mission 17 to"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "the moon? Brand, any last thoughts on"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "these photos?"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "Yeah, some people might say it's just"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "dust on the lens. You know what? I don't"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "think so. Like I said, you could see"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "that definite shadow there. It's there."}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "Whatever it is,"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "again, the mystery. What happened to"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "this? Is it still there after the fact?"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "Well, this is something we need to share"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "to the world, and we just did. Now,"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "Austria, this video baffles the mind."}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "Just take a look at this."}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "All All right, let's take a look at this"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "again. Some people are saying these are"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "drones. Well, this was captured a few"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "years ago, but it's the first time that"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "we're sharing it right here at"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "Thirdphase Moon. And I got a feeling"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "these aren't drones or any kind of"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "commercial airliners uh coming in in"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "your direction with the headlights."}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "These things actually leave some kind of"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "trail behind it. And when you see it"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "interact with the clouds above, it"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "actually lights it up. Almost lights the"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "clouds on fire. Take a look at this."}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "We're slowing this down. And there it"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "is. The refraction of light off the"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "clouds. And then if you notice"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "right there behind it, it's almost like"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "leading some kind of trail behind it."}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "You see that circular black trail behind"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "these lights? Are these flares, Brett?"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "Yeah. Some people might even say it's a"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "reflection off the window, but that's"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "not the case. We're looking at something"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "that's really there. I don't think"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "they're drones, but what kind of"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "emissions is it leaving behind and"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "exhaust?"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "It's weird."}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "Look at that. It just lit it up. You"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "could see the refraction of light off"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "the cloud. So, this is definitely not a"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "reflection from the car passenger seat"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "here. It seems like the windows roll"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "down. And what amazes me, too, is how"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "these things basically just take off."}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "Look at this. They take off and just"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "basically disappear."}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "There we go. They're gone."}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "People, what's your thoughts? This is"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "some incredible UFO video that we're"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "looking at right now from Austria. I"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "want to get your comments below. What do"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "you think's going on in the skies? Are"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "these just simply drones?"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "I don't think so. Drones just don't"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "disappear. And I've never seen drones"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "light up the clouds or leave these kind"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "of trails behind it. All right. Any last"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "thoughts on this?"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "Yeah, I'm thinking would alien"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "technology even leave an exhaust. I'm"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "thinking this is probably more of our"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "own man-made but still maybe a little"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "reverse engineering. The way they just"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "take off into like some sort of"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "hyperdrive. The way they disappear and"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "that acceleration is amazing."}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "So, we've got some other videos coming"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "up, but I want to get everybody's"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "opinion in the live premiere that we're"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "doing on the side and in the comments"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "below of what we just witnessed. And I"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "want to get Brent's thoughts. Do you"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "think these are drones up in the skies?"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "What's this all about? What could cause"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "this? Wow. What are these culminations"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "of strange lights? You could see a"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "pattern. And if these are connected, it"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "would be a huge starcraft. I'm looking"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "at the distance and it seems to be maybe"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "about a mile away from the cameraman."}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "And if that's the case, we're looking at"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "something that's very large hovering in"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "the sky. I'm trying to wrap my brain"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "around exactly what we're looking at."}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "Could it be possibly a drone suspending"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "light, LED lights, and creating some"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "kind of a spectacle in the sky? Some"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "kind of hoax somebody's trying to pull"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "off? I'm not sure. It doesn't seem so."}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "We don't hear any kind of a drone sounds"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "whatsoever. Um, I'm still trying to"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "figure out what it is. And again, that's"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "why we're opening up the chat below and"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "the chat in the premiere so we could get"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "your opinions of what we're looking at"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "right here at Third Phase Moon. We get a"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "lot of UFO sightings and like I said, we"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "don't get it right all the time and"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "probably we hardly get it right. We just"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "we're getting it out as fast as possible"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "and that's our goal. Uh we've got"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "another video for you guys. Take a look"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "at this. It's coming in from New"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "Zealand."}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "We don't know what this is. It's like"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "three lights hovering"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "over the sky."}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "What the freak is that?"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "Oh my gosh, that's creepy. Hey, this is"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "sovereign."}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "The story behind this video gets kind of"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "interesting because it wasn't just one"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "person. It was a whole neighborhood that"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "witnessed these lights. It was early in"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "the hours in Pori Rua when Theodora Fia"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "left home and spotted three lights"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "hovering up in the dark skies above her"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "town. She didn't know what it was. She"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "was with her cousin and they both"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "spotted the lights and they're wondering"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "what it was. She filmed them on her"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "phone and for a few seconds spotted the"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "same thing. She was uh leaving home in"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "the morning. She says when she spotted"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "these big lights just hovering over her"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "city. She doesn't have a clue what it"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "could be, but people are wondering could"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "this be extraterrestrial in origin."}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "One person comments and said they saw"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "but no one had a definite theory on what"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "these lights were. Uh they said they"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "were very creepy, but again the town has"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "no idea what these were and this"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "happened just moments ago and the New"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "Zealand paper picked up on it. So the"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "local media's sharing this story, but I"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "want to get more people on the ground"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "over there. If they witnessed this, I"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "want to get your videos. You got to send"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "it over to me right here at Third Phase"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "of Moon because uh right away I'm going"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "to rule out any kind of parachuters,"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "pyroex. No, this is something else."}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "These lights seem to remain stationary."}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "Brent, I want to get your thoughts. What"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "do you think's going on here?"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "Yeah, I like the way she actually zoomed"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "up on the UFO and it really captured her"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "eye and then she went down to record the"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "time that this happened. So, it gives a"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "approximate time for people in the New"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "Zealand area to know if they caught the"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "same event. And what I'm looking at is a"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "series of lights that really resemble"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "nothing as of drones or something that's"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "in our assets. What we're looking at is"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "something that can't be explained. Like"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "what is that?"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "See that?"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "That's as steady as I can get. But I"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "don't understand what the hell that"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "thing is, man. I try to get on the roof"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "of my of my uh job. I can't get on the"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "roof to see what it is. It's about 5"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "5:15"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "in the afternoon. This is crazy."}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "I'm going try to get a closer look at"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "it, but"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "Whatever the it is, it's crazy."}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "Just sitting in here in the middle of"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "the damn sky. Not a helicopter or"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "nothing. Just sitting in here."}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "I'm going to get a better angle. All"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "right, y'all."}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "I'm back at it. I'm a little closer, but"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "I still can't see like what the the hell"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "it is. It's moving."}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "I really can't tell what it is, though."}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "It's too fuzzy out here."}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "I'm holding the camera as slow as I can."}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "It's like moving a little bit back and"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "forth. It's crazy."}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "Zoom out a little bit."}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "See, it is moving though. Back and forth"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "like he's hanging in the air."}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "I just can't get a closeup look on it."}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "You see it's moving."}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "There's some weird"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "I can't get no closer look on it. Damn."}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "Wish I could, but whatever it is."}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "Just in the sky hovering,"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "moving back and forth."}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "And you got some kind of light emitting"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "from it. Some kind of light was in the"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "back of it."}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "I just can't get a closer look or"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "All right. Now, we want to get the"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "public's reaction, and we asked a few"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "people about this particular sighting in"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "the Hollywood Hills. Listen up."}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "Have we ever met before?"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "We have not."}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "All right. So, what do you make of this"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "broad daylight?"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "Ours or"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "I mean,"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "I I'm always I'm always thinking that"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "it's ours first for sure. Um, the idea"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "that it's, you know, that they're saying"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "that it's something like this hasn't"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "been seen in America makes me makes me"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "think that maybe it would be ours, but"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "then um I'd rather believe that they're"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "off world for sure."}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "Have we ever met before?"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "No. No."}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "So, what do you make of that video when"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "you're watching it? Ours or"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "otherworldly? Um,"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "it looks like a mix somewhere between"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "like the rings on Saturn to like"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "a beehive just like sitting there up in"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "the air. And um,"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "you know, normally I'd say, \"Oh yeah,"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "someone could probably make a drone out"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "of this or you know, what have you.\" But"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "you know, you're listing countries like"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "Haiti. Like there's no money there, you"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "know, like. So yeah, that's weird. So"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "when you look at something like that, if"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "you were out there"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "Oh, if I was out there, what would you"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "think?"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "Well, I I I'd like to see it move. See"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "how it moves?"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "Cuz really what what makes the UFOs"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "interesting is when when they when the"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "US where the pilots report about them is"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "they change direction and they go up and"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "they go down and they do all these"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "things. This one is just sort of sitting"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "there. What is the historic record of"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "UFOs or what are believed to be UFOs"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "uh over let's say 200 years?"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "What is it? Do you know?"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "You tell me."}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "I'm not the researcher on UFOs. I'd like"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "to know because if we don't have people"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "in 1860 during the Civil War seeing"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "mysterious bizarre object in the sky and"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "we're only seeing it in the 20th century"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "that says it's man-made."}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "Tell me what what your first impressions"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "looking at this."}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "Well, the first impression is the shape"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "of the object. It's pretty interesting"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "looking."}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "It's uh it's moving. It's it's moving"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "with the uh velocity of the camera. So"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "there's some trepidation in the hands of"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "the cameraman because usually"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "don't really see things like this and"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "then you get excited and so the camera"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "starts to shake."}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "There could be some wind and uh the"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "shape is great."}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "You know what I mean? That something's"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "coming coming down to set us straight."}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "yeah, I I wish it wasn't so shaky and it"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "was a little bit clear. It's just so,"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "you know, with in the world that we live"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "in now, you just never know if it's um,"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "you know, CGI or or create, you know,"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "I mean, could it be clearer than a I"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "don't know what I'm looking for there."}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "Yeah, this is interesting. How new is"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "this one?"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "This came out about a month ago out of"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "South America. You know, it's constant"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "broad daylight sightings over there and"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "you get these fly sausage in that region"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "and we're seeing them all the time over"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "but not in America so much. together"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "with other things, but for some reason"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "Peruse, Mexico City, all and for some"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "reason they're just like, you know, bold"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "and they're reveal."}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "Is there any um like do they align with"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "any of sort of like the ancient um you"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "know,"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "you tell me?"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "You want me to tell you?"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I wish I had a deeper"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "knowledge of it, but there's a sense"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "inside of me for sure that thinks that"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "um, you know, we we couldn't be the only"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "people,"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "you know, in the universe, you know what"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "I mean? Unless we are the expression of"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "uh, consciousness itself, which if we"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "are, it hasn't come very far, has it?"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "Do you think the government would tell"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "us if they had this in their possession?"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "Yeah. No, the government would be"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "hiding. I mean, we we we don't even know"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "why JFK. We just had Biden tell us that"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "we we, you know, we're not going to"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "figure out he's not going to release any"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "papers on on uh JFK. So, if we can't"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "figure out why previous people were"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "murdered and for what reasons, then why"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "would they tell us that we have"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "anti-gravity?"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "You know what I mean?"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "Yeah. And it just doesn't look like"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "anything. It like it looks like"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "something"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "I don't know. um trying to think of the"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "guy, but um the guy that used to work on"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "the anti-gravity stuff for the um"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "government, he the way he was describing"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "stuff, it kind of reminds Yeah. Lazar."}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "Yeah. It reminds me of something that he"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "would talk about almost, you know."}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "Yeah. Bob Lazar called it the sports"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "model."}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and it does it looks"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "sportier."}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "Um but"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "that would be the purpose for it, right?"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Um but yeah it hard to say"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "if it's otherworldly uh but"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "can definitely be I mean why not right?"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "Um same time if it's you know US"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "government or something like that or"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "Russian or Chinese like I think it's a"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "good part of the country for or the"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "world for them to be in because you know"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "around here everyone's got phones. If"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "you want a ton of video, your top secret"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "stuff, why not um"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "why not have it down there? But yeah,"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "it's uh it's something else. It could"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "definitely be"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "definitely be some checking out that"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "part of the world. But why that part of"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "the world, who knows?"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "Well, recently there was that gimbal"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "footage that the pilots were engaging"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "and it looked similar to this, but in"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "this situation it's stationary."}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "My question is what?"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "We have these broad daylight sightings"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "in there, right?"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "But not so much in America. Do you think"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "there's a reason behind that?"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "Well, I thought they would they thought"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "they had a lot of sightings in America."}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "Not in the shape form."}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "No, I've never se I've never seen their"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "shape at all. So, I don't I don't know."}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "I really have no thoughts about it. I"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "They've been telling us for years that"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "they're other Earthlike planets, but"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "they've been telling me that for 50"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "years. Come on. Where are they?"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "You know, you know. Yeah. And I I don't"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "see them. They keep saying, \"Well, there"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "all these earthlike planets. There has"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "to be.\" I don't think there does have to"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "be. I don't think there are. You know,"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "they may be. They may be in people from"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "outer space. I have no idea. I don't"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "really"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "I hate to say it, but I really don't"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "care."}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "You know, if they are from outer space,"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "great. If they're not, great. You know,"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "and if they're if they are from outer"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "space, I'd like to go for a ride."}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "If UFOs are only since we've had the"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "technology to fly, doesn't that indicate"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "to you that they're not"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "extraterrestrial?"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "Really, there's no other logical"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "explanation, but I'd have to have the"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "data. We haven't been seeing these"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "before technology. They are manmade."}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "Someone's making them."}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "Why do you why don't we see like this"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "over America so much in this region of"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "the world that we see?"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "This which area of the world?"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "This is South America."}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "Oh, South America. They probably don't"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "have uh"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "so much interest by the government to"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "stop these things."}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "They just let it happen. Like their"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "culture is more free and open, but"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "they're they're militaristic, but their"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "people,"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "they're quiet about it. They're still"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "going, \"What?\" They're still"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "a little behind American industrialism"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "and the benefits of television is"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "education. So, they're saying, \"Ah,"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "the words haven't gone around yet for"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "them.\" all the lingo. This is one of"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "ours or"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "a prank, a hoax."}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "It could be anything really, but I'd"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "like to look at it more because I'm"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "interested in it."}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "We want to thank everybody from around"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "the world who joined us in this"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "incredible episode right here at"}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "ThirdPhase Moon. It's our pleasure"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "bringing you the latest UFO videos from"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "around the world. And if you've captured"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "anything amazing, send it to us right"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "here at ThirdPhase. My email is in the"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "description."}]

[{"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "1943, 17 people of highly strange appearance were brought to Los Alamos. They all"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "looked very much alike, around 5 ft in height, hairless with enlarged heads and"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "oversized eyes. They were brought to the base in a covered army vehicle, but the"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "suits seemed to be almost alive or had an inbuilt memory."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "Blood was extracted, skin samples were taken, and several of the beings were used in radiation experiments in"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "bacteriological warfare tests, a controversial new field for science."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "Whatever these creatures were, they hated us to a truly profound"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "degree. about uh September 2005 in the summer."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "About 4 in the morning, Highway 183 North, Brownwood, Texas, right by the"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "blanket cut off past airport on the right. Seven large rectangles yellow"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "appeared like above everything and it I stopped. My truck, got out."}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "Then I realized I was mesmerized. Tried to take a picture and when I got my phone out, it disappeared and I was"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "shocked. My friends said they or they saw it on Facebook, but it was in"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "Stevenville or something. And uh I didn't tell anybody else cuz I felt"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "stupid. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of Debriefed. My name is"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "Chris Ramsay, and today we're going to be taking a bit of a dive into a rabbit hole that I consider extremely"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "tantalizing. This comes from the suggestion of my friend Michael Phillip. He is the host of the Third Eye Drops"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "podcast. You guys should check it out. I've been on his podcast, I think probably close to half a dozen times."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "Love the guy. Great content. And if you're into like consciousness-based stuff, I I definitely recommend checking"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "him out. But he texted me the other week and he's like, \"Dude, you should read chapter five of this book I'm reading."}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "It is right up your alley.\" And boy was he right. I skimmed through it and I was"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "like, \"This is exactly what we should be looking into.\" So the book is The NASA"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "Conspiracies: The Truth Behind the Moon Landing, Censored Photos, and the Face on Mars by Nick Redern. Now, some of you"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "may know of Nick Redern. He is a very popular author, author of a dozen books,"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "I don't know, maybe more. He's definitely someone who hangs around the fringe side of theories, something I can"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "definitely appreciate. Uh, but by no means take this as the gospel or the truth. As with every dive"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "we do here, I highly recommend that you take your disbelief and you suspend it. In fact, suspend both the belief and the"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "disbelief. Leave everything in a quantum field of suspension. It'll be waiting"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "for you when we get back because as you know, belief often gets in the way of a good story. And boy, do we got a good"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "story for you today. Also, check out area52.shop. We have replenished lots of the things"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "in there, including the graphic TE's, which are flying off the shelf. If you do enjoy these readthroughs, you might"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "be familiar with Errol and the Alien interview featuring this little prison"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "planet convict. Well, we put her on a t-shirt. We got a few uh different"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "models for men and women. We also have the famous lizard from Lertafiles and of"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "course the men in black and those are available area52.shop. Folks, we paid the bills."}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "Let's get into reading this. This is going to be chapter five of this book. If you want to pick it up, I left the"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "link below. Special thanks to Nick, although uh you know, we didn't get permission to read this. Hopefully, he's"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "okay with it. Uh because this might just interest a lot of you to pick up his work. So, thank you, Nick."}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "Also, fun for me to just be able to read a book and not print out documents or like scour the internet. Just uh I'm"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "very used to holding books. I enjoy reading, so this is a lot of fun for me. So, folks, it begins. Chapter 5. The"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "Area 51 connection. The following startling account of John,"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "born in Bloomington, Minnesota, a man who served from 1948 to 1959 in the New"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "York Police Department, has a major bearing upon the work of NASA in relation to ultra secret data on UFOs"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "and alien beings. His account also offers intriguing data suggesting a"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "connection between NASA and secret UFO dominated projects undertaken"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "at the infamous Area 51 installation in Nevada and probably adjacently to S4 as"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "well is my guess. The author Nick then gets into how he met this quote unquote"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "whistleblower and uh and what his word actually means here. I first encountered"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "John in the latter part of 2005 after he read my book, Body Snatchers in the"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "Desert. The book was a study of the notorious UFO crash at Roswell, New Mexico in the"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "summer of 1947. Body Snatchers, however, took a distinctly different approach to its"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "subject matter and was focused upon allegations that the Roswell crash had"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "far less to do with aliens and much more to do with secret highaltitude balloon"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "experiments using Japanese prisoners of war and physically handicapped people."}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "Quick side note, Annie Jacobson also has work on this particular theory."}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "Not an uncommon theory in the UFO scope. I'm one to entertain all sorts of theories. By the way, this one is one of"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "the wilder ones. Essentially, the one that Andy Jacobson talks about that this was uh actually from the Germans that"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "they sent some like mutilated experiments on a craft and then had it"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "crash into the United States to I don't know end up seeding some type of SCOP or"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "what have you. Frankly, I think aliens is probably more probable for some reason, but what do I know?"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "When John contacted me, he explained that during the course of his work with the US intelligence community in the"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "early 1970s, he came across data that seemed to dovetail with some of the material"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "contained in my book, concerned by the possibility that if he spoke on the"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "record, he might very well lose his pension from his former employer,"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "Wackenheut. John agreed to a somewhat off-the therecord interview which was conducted"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "in 2006 and reveals the many twists and turns of his story."}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "So who or what is Wacken Hut? Let me fill you in real quickly. Wacken Hut is"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "a private security company that's been contracted out by various factions of"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "the government, but mainly highly sensitive compartments of the"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "government. So, in UFO lore, it's frequently mentioned as providing security at secret bases like Area 51"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "and being involved with underground facilities or UAP research through alleged ties with defense contractors"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "such as SIC, Science Applications International. If you want to know more about that, check out UAP GERB and his"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "channel. He's got a lot of information on the legacy stuff over there. So, this"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "guy apparently works for Wacken Hut. All right. Interesting."}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "John stated that from the latter part of 1957 until the early months of 1958, he and a"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "number of police colleagues were tangentially involved in an FBI undercover operation to try and locate"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "and arrest a Soviet spy ring that was believed to be targeting and infiltrating a US defense related"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "company in the city. It was suspected that someone within the company had been compromised by the Soviets. Although"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "this was never ultimately proven, the police were involved because the compromised individual had also"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "suspected links, which again were never ultimately proven, with a money laundering mob-based operation."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "John explained that arrests of several Soviet citizens were made in connection with this particular operation along"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "with at least two American citizens partly as a result of his involvement in this operation and also because he was"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "possessed of a very ambitious uh character. After leaving the New York police, John was involved in additional"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "work with the FBI and began in late 1959 and continued, albeit sporadically,"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "until October 1970. John declined to describe fully the"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "nature of his work with the FBI, but stated that it centered upon Soviet attempts to obtain classified files of"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "an intelligence, military, and defense nature from within the borders of the"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "United States. So, your typical anti-spy guy, John, apparently, if that is your"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "real name. But in July of 1970, John was approached by several of his old"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "colleagues and was duly offered a very lucrative position within Wacken Hut, a"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "company that came into being in 1954. To this day, albeit now under the control of Danish or organization group for"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "folk, which obtained Wacken Hut in 2002. Indeed, as far back as 1964, Wacken Hut"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "was providing welcome security at NASA's Florida-based Kennedy Space Center. John"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "began working with Wacken Hut in December 1970 and in February 1971 was"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "asked if he would be interested in doing contract work for a certain highly"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "secret arm of the US intelligence community operating out of Nevada."}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "Bum bum. John was advised that the salary would be very good indeed, that the contract"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "would be for one year only, that the work would ensure for him very significant contracts within the"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "intelligence community, and that it would position him very well for future career prospects. After speaking with"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "his bosses at Wacken Hut to secure their opinions and thoughts on the matter, who all strongly urged him to accept the"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "job, John did precisely that. And as would most people in his position, I"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "assume. I assume when you're left with a dangling carrot in front of you, often"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "you'll begin to chase said carrot. John said that on accepting the new position,"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "he was very soon subjected to a stringent background check and was interviewed on six occasions. twice by"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "NASA security personnel. Twice by the representatives of an unnamed agency,"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "once by someone who identified himself as working for the National Security Agency or the NSA,"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "and once by former senior colleague at the FBI. The results of the interviews were"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "apparently satisfactory, and John began working in April 1971 at the location in"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "Nevada that he later came to realize was none other than what today is infamously"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "referred to as Area 51. John revealed that a part of the reason he was given"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "the posting was that as a bachelor, he could remain on base for 27-day stints"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "at a time as required and could then return to Las Vegas for only 3 or 4 days, depending on whether there were 30"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "or 31 days in the month before returning to the secret location."}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "This, John said, would not have been the ideal situation for a married man or someone with children. Notably, John was"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "willing to admit to me that those involved in the security screening process knew that while back in Las"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "Vegas, Jon frequented high-priced prostitutes, but this was not seen as problematic to"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "his posting at all. Rather, the fact that Jon has no family ties whatsoever was perceived as a bonus when it came to"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "maintaining security out of the Area 51. As John said, even if I'd said something"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "to a hooker about aliens and UFOs, which I wouldn't have done anyway, who was"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "going to believe them? Well, all right, we're getting a little bit of a glimpse into the psychology of said, you know,"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "whistleblower John here. Might be the very reason he doesn't want to use his name. Might not be all the NDAs and"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "contracts that he signed, but maybe just the uh, you know, amount of prostitutes that he threw money at. Now, mind you,"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "Vegas prostitution, I believe, is legal, right? You're allowed to have brothel in Vegas, if I'm not mistaken."}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "Uh, so yeah, you know, guy wants to have fun. He's got no wife and kids, he's in"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "the place to do it. They don't see any problem with that. Now, if I was screening,"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "arguably, you know, here here's here's the thing. Here's"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "obviously having someone because if we look back at Bob Lazar, obviously there's a few connections here. Bob"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "Lazar uh said to have also run a brothel back in I think Nevada back in the day"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "as well. And that's been one of the contention points for a lot of people when it comes to Bob's credibility. But"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "again, as mentioned here, I don't think it's too out of the ordinary, especially in the 70s. But what I do find"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "interesting is this idea of your home life. And that's"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "something that Bob also brought up was that when Bob's ex-wife, I believe, was"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "having an affair, the people that were monitoring his phones and tapping him found out about the affair prior to Bob"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "finding out, which eventually made them decide to look into him more"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "to make sure, you know, the home life was stable, his psychology is his psychological state was stable. uh which"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "then tipped off to Bob that he was being you know surveiled"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "which made Bob take people up to the range and and see the crafts and whatnot which eventually got him caught. So"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "their whole modus operandi of these whether it's the CIA or whether it's the"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "NSA or whoever it is is to make sure that you got a stable home life or"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "better yet like in this position that you have no home life whatsoever."}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "I would also argue that to counter that, if you were to hire somebody, say from"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "Utah, who's out there by the um test range that's out in Utah, uh Dougway, well, it"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "goes without saying that people, a lot of people in Utah are Mormon. A lot of Mormons have large families."}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "I think for the opposite reason you could hire people with large families"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "as it provides a lot of collateral for the threats that would be you know"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "imposed to the people working there i.e. if you don't do what we say you know"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "fill in the blanks. So both could be true. Um I'm not against that. I think it's uh an"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "interesting thing to note and a fun little anecdote. Okay."}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "John was always flown both into and out of Area 51, a small aircraft, usually a"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "Cessna, along with three colleagues whom he got to know very well in the one year they worked together."}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "There were blinds on the windows of the craft that had to be pulled down after takeoff from Las Vegas and that had to"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "remain pulled down after landing, too. And upon landing at Area 51, everyone"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "was required to put on a pair of goggles. These were not normal goggles, however. In fact, they were quite unlike"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "any that John and his newly found friends and colleagues had ever seen before."}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "The goggles had no split lenses, not unlike bif focal glasses, and the top"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "section was so thick that it prevented any effective vision."}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "And all that one could make out was a vague blur. All right, so just enough"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "for you to like maybe see where you're going. The only part of the goggles that would have been seen through with any"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "real effectiveness was a small section at the bottom of each lens. As an inevitable result, the wearer was forced"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "to look only in the direction of the ground and their shoes to see where they"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "were going. This was without a doubt done deliberately. John stated to ensure that"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "the person wearing the goggles was unable to make out the particular details of anything that he might"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "inadvertently view on the base in which he did not have official clearance to see. The group was always guided to a"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "bus again with blacked out windows and was then driven for a few minutes to yet"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "another location. When getting off the bus, they were still required to keep the goggles on and were directed to"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "their place of work. Fascinating. Fascinating. Fascinating. Fascinating. I"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "have never heard of these goggles before, but yeah, why wouldn't they have something like that? Some type of"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "blinders for humans because you hear a lot of stories of whether it's Bob"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "Lazar, whether it's some other whistleblowers that came out during um Steven Greer's disclosure project who"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "even said that they were, you know, at gunpoint told to look at the shoes of the person in front of them as they were"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "walking. goggles makes it way easier. You'd think that this would be just common practice for anyone walking"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "around these places. Very cool. Very cool piece of lore that I didn't know"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "about. The location in question was a small concrete building approximately 60"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "ft square. Security at the door was stringent, John added. Upon entering the building, which"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "was simply a bare concrete room, he was finally allowed to take off his goggles. He viewed two things only. The entrance"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "to an elevator and a concrete staircase that only descended. Sometimes, John"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "said, they would enter the elevator and sometimes they would use the staircase to descend the two floors to their place"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "of work. He had no idea at all what work was carried out on the first floor below"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "the surface. On arriving at the second floor, there was a second rigorous security screening procedure, a"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "procedure that would follow every time he returned to the base after his 3 to 4 days back in Las Vegas."}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "He recalled that after passing through the second security screening, he entered via a large pair of thick metal"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "doors, a long corridor that was around 180 ft in length, and that had six doors"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "leading off it, three on the left, three on the right. His office was the second"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "on the right, and it had a simple lock identical to a standard lock on the front door of a typical house."}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "Now, you know, my mind immediately goes to is this S4?"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "Is this one of those little shacks near, you know, I mean, you'd imagine that out there most of that stuff's underground."}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "Anyway, so whether it's S4 or S2 or what have you, um, pretty interesting that we"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "might be getting a sneak peek into some of the ongoings. John was directed to"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "his new office and was given an initial briefing by three men, all displaying official NASA credentials. He was"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "advised that the location in which he would be employed was officially classed as the history department."}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "The three NASA men relayed to John that the overall location at which he was working. He says that the term Area 51"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "was never used during his employment there. It was only years later that the term became widely used and known to"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "him. was involved in the development of prototype and radical aircraft,"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "biological warfare agents, chemical warfare technologies, and exotic weaponry, and something else in"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "quotations. All right, something else. We like"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "something else. That something else, John said, was"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "research into things that had happened in the 1940s. Well, by God, I think we"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "know what we're talking about here. It very soon became clear to John and his colleagues that they were being employed"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "as custodians of historical files on these subjects. Files that would from time to time be required by base"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "employees during the nature of their work. John stated that there were three reasons and three reasons only that the"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "files of which he was the custodian were ever accessed by anyone."}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "Number one, on a regular basis, scientific personnel would require"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "access to the files as a part of their work. Two, the files would be used to brief new employees to base if such"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "things were deemed necessary. Three, there would be regular random checks on the part of security personnel to ensure"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "that all of the files were present and had not been tampered with in any fashion. Okay, very cool. Very, very"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "cool. Again, I'm reminded of Bob Lazar"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "being briefed. You know, he had a stack of blue files. I wish we knew the color of these, by the way. But regardless, a"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "stack of blue files that he was presented upon his briefing."}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "And the guards there, the security guards were very strict. Could these security guards all have been whacken"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "hut? Could Bob and this gentleman John here"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "have looked at the same exact pieces of paper? Very interesting."}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "I love I love the idea of thinking that these worlds are connected and that although this is 1970"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "almost 20 years prior to Bob Lazar visiting um still interesting to think"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "that you know maybe they still operate in the same way. According to John, the"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "priceless documentation was never allowed out of office. And the briefings for new personnel were always conducted"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "inside the confines of his office by a four-person team from NASA. And if"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "anyone ever needed to access the files as part of their work, they would have they would have to make pencil notes"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "from the files and pencil notes only. Those pencil notes had to be exclusively"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "written on a bright orange colored paper of an unusually large size. A type John"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "had never seen before or since. He speculated that perhaps this curious color and size could somehow have been"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "picked up on security screenings if anyone tried to smuggle the paper out of the base. That's probably a good hunch,"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "John. You know, they have ways of tracking everything, I'm sure."}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "John stated that one of his colleagues became the custodian of historical files on prototype aircraft at the base."}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "Another had jurisdiction over historical files on exotic weaponry being developed here and another was responsible for the"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "historical files on biological weaponry. John's role"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "was to maintain the historical files on the UFOs. He says that the first two weeks were"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "spent receiving extensive briefings from personnel on the base. And due to the"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "fact that he was the custodian of such material, he was allowed to read all of"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "the files with absolutely no restrictions at all and acquaint himself"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "with the document names and numbers in a fashion that would allow him to identify them with ease if they were ever"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "requested by visitors to the office. That's my type of job right there."}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "Just give me a filing cabinet and be like, \"This is your filing cabinet.\" There are"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "many filing cabinets, but this one is yours. Your filing cabinet is your best friend."}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "That would be me. Me in the filing cabinet full of UFO stuff."}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "God, that'd be cool. I suppose maybe you just get jaded and saturated by the information eventually,"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "but man, that first read through. Imagine doing a read through in that room."}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "All right, I digress. John said that the files cover the period from 1943 to 1968."}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "He added that as did most people in that era who worked in the official world, he knew"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "that the US Air Force had investigated UFO sightings via its Project Blue Book study that had finally closed the doors"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "in 1969. He elaborated that the files in his office told a far more in-depth and deeply sinister story of official and"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "highly classified UFO investigations in the United States that went far beyond anything and everything in which Project"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "Blue Book had even been involved. John stressed several times that he never saw any UFOs, any live aliens, or any alien"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "bodies at Area 51. fair. You know, as a security guard"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "guarding historical files, I would have thought it suspicious had he mentioned, \"Oh, yeah, they would lug bodies through"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "here. This is a compartmentalized facility of the highest order.\""}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "According to what John learned during his time, this is where it gets juicy. All right, strap yourselves in, folks."}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "If you're following, if you're at this point of the video, there's no turning"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "back. Sorry to say, you're stuck with me. The only way through, by the way, is"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "leaving a like and subscribe. All right, let's get back to it. According to what"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "John learned during his time spent at the base digging deep into the secret documentation in 1947, an incredibly"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "well-hidden group was established deep within the confines of the American intelligence community from which which"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "from 1960 onward worked closely with NASA on matters of presumed extraterrestrial nature."}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "Can we just assume this is like the Majestic 12? If you don't know about Majestic 12, go watch I made probably"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "several videos on it. In the late 1960s, John was unsure"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "whether it was 1968 or 69, the group was radically reorganized. Instead of a"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "number of bodies such as NASA and the CIA playing integral parts in the program, but retaining all of their own"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "files and their own input in the process, all of the work, data, and documents were subsequently transferred"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "to a centralized body that operated out of what is now known as Area 51. And it"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "was also at Area 51 that certain NASA, CIA, NSA, and Air Force personnel were"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "offered full-time positions that would take them far away from their normal day-to-day activities in their relevant"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "agencies. What we're learning here is that 1969 would have been the genesis of a brand"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "new outfit that perhaps went nameless, badgeless,"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "off the radar that offered money to all of these people to retire their current positions at these intelligence agencies"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "and to effectively assimilate into this new"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "UFO/ alien endeavor. ever. Yes, said John. The new group continued to have the same"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "input from intelligence personnel that it had before, and much of the membership stayed exactly the same. The"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "only major difference was that all the documentation was removed from the vaults of different intelligence"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "agencies and from NASA and was taken to Area 51 for consolidation. Anyone in"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "NASA, in the intelligence field, and in the military who worked on the project was required to transfer to Area 51,"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "too. John felt strongly that this is for this chief reason that no one to date"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "has ever been able to access any data that conclusively proves NASA has been engaged in highlevel UFO connected"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "conspiracies. All of the relevant records that might have been related to such issues, he fully believed, were"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "removed from NASA's vaults back in the late 1960s, and as a consequence, will"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "never ever surface for official declassification under the Freedom of"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "Information Act legislation. Obviously,"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "um, if you're going to foyer request UFO stuff, you're just going to get surface"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "level like probably rare would you get something groundbreaking. I mean, we have uncovered quite a bit, but compared"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "to what's hidden is probably it's probably not even comparable. So, that would make sense. By the way, I get a"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "lot of phone calls. I get a lot of emails, a lot of messages from people in various places in the government and"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "also government contractors. But if any of you are out there and you don't want to come public, totally fine. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "one that's going to like blow your cover. But if you can confirm to me in some"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "capacity that what we're reading is just yay or nay."}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "If you could just like hit me up and be like, \"Listen, I work I may have worked in some of these stuff and this is the"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "reason why what he's saying is true or this is the reason why what he's saying is BS.\" I would appreciate it. Not that"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "I would believe you because again, if you can't identify yourself, but I will, you know, catalog it."}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "Certain people, very influential and power wielding people allied to the original program were considered to have"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "gone rogue to a significant and deadly degree and had gone way beyond their normal rem remmit to keep certain UFO"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "secrets hidden from the public, the press, and even from elected government officials which may have included the"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "office of the president of the United States. This said John was part of the reason for having a centralized location"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "for the many files and documents. A number of them referenced a variety of uh controversial and highly secret"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "actions that had to be undertaken to hide the alien truth. These were in many ways more sensational"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "than the UFOs and their alien crews themselves. If these files were scattered around the vaults of numerous"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "agencies, explained John, there was a very strong chance that at least some of them might eventually leak outside of"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "the official circles. Those rogue individuals, he revealed, had not complied with orders to relinquish their"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "files, and as a result, some files were found to be missing from secure vaults."}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "Other documentation supposedly had been shredded, but it was strongly suspected that they had not been destroyed after"}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "all. On top of that, certain people with clearance to see such material had vanished, never to be seen again, or"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "were found dead under questionable circumstances. Now, this is starting to sound a little bit more like the legacy"}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "program I know, or at least the legacy program that we've been told exists."}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "John recalled the files he read had one curious similarity. The cover page on each and every one was"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "missing. He explained that all the files were stapled. Many of the documents had a"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "tiny piece of torn paper stuck under the staples, clearly indicating that the cover page had been carelessly torn off."}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "In turn, a new cover page had been added, a blank piece of paper with a new pencil written title affixed with a"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "paper clip to the second page. That's an interesting um thing to invent"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "if you're just inventing stuff. But um if true that's interesting and would probably be because it featured whatever"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "agency had that paper. So if it was NASA or CIA"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "or whatnot. He was told that these copies had come from the office of a man who had a major"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "role to play in secret UFO investigations in the late 1950s and early 1960s. And in addition to the"}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "files he had legal access to, the man had obtained some of them after they had"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "been stolen from the vaults of other US intelligence military-based agencies. He then kept them in a secure location and"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "assigned his own filing and naming system to the files. The man was also"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "suspected of having shredded numerous documents that all dated from the mid 1940s for"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "private obscure reasons of his own. The files were never duplicated and told stories that are now, one is almost"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "forced to presume, utterly lost forever. John alluded to the possibility that this man was none other than the"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "infamous James Jesus Angleton, who was appointed counter inelligence chief of Central Intelligence Agency by CIA"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "director Alan Dulles in 1954. All right,"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "folks. We now get into some of the documents that our protagonist John had"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "the pleasure of reading and some of the most interesting documents contained within this"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "little filing cabinet. Confidential."}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "The earliest document John recalled was, he said, without a doubt the most disturbing one, too. It dated from 1944"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "and was essentially a very long letter of complaint to the wartime office of strategic services OSS"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "from a certain medical man who was then working at the secret Los Alamos laboratory in New Mexico and whose team"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "had been required to carry out tests and experiments on a group of very unusual"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "looking people who had been secretly brought into the installation. In the letter, the doctor was"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "complaining to a military officer about the nature of what was being asked of his team and was extremely concerned about why these people looked the way"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "they did. How do they look, you might ask? Well, let's get into that. John"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "said he remembered clearly reading that at some point in 1943, 17 people of highly strange appearance"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "were brought to Los Alamos. They all looked very much alike, around 5t in"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "height, hairless with enlarged heads and oversized eyes. They were brought to the"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "base in a covered army vehicle, were totally naked, and walked in a stiff,"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "jerky fashion. He stressed that the eyes of the people were normal apart from their size. In"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "other words, they were not the large black hypnotic eyes that are usually ascribed to the stereotypical"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "dimminionive alien that dominates today's popular culture."}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "The group of people or creatures was taken to a secure location at Los Alamos and through out the course of 4"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "months was subjected to a variety of medical tests. Blood was extracted, skin"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "samples were taken, and several of the beings were used in radiation experiments and bacteriological warfare"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "tests, a controversial new field of science. That's pretty dark. That is pretty dark."}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "Hm. 17 is interesting because if you look at Aztec now, obviously Aztec happened in"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "1947, uh the crash in Aztec, New Mexico, there were I think 16 bodies, but they were"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "indeed uh unalived already upon uh retrieval."}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "The doctor described all of this in a truly nightmarish fashion. The people"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "never ever spoke and only made strange noises like a cross between a seal's"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:20", "text": "bark and a hiccup that was very loud and highly disturbing."}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "They would have to be restrained by military personnel before any of the tests could be performed. And they were"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "fed on a diet of mashed and condensed mixtures of various fruits and occasionally mashed potato and drank"}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "only water and milk. According to the doctor, he was told by the military that they were malformed people who had been"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "secretly taken from asylums and hospitals for use in classified military experimentation and nothing else."}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "I mean, even in the 1940s, this doctor"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "wasn't as credulous as you might think. You know, he's I think he knows the difference between like a physically"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:08", "text": "malformed person and 17 identical naked alien looking creatures"}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "that all spoke in weird languages. As a medical man, the doctor wrote that he found the explanation to be highly"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "suspicious. There was, he believed, very little likelihood that 17 people could all be afflicted in such an extremely"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "strange fashion. And the world's mainstream medical community didn't know anything of it. The doctor advised in"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "the pages of his letter that rumors at Los Alamos suggested that one that no one, not even the military who brought"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "them to Los Alamos knew who or what these people were or where they were from, but they apparently had been found"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "wandering around somewhere in the Arizona desert. All of the 17 people died before the end"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "of 1943, and their bodies were carefully removed for autopsy by the military as"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "they died one by one. No one was ever able to communicate with any of the 17"}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "people, and the doctor complained bitterly about the way in which he and his team were threatened physically and"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:13", "text": "mentally by the military and told never to discuss the matter of strange beings outside of the Los Alamos installation."}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "Again, par for the course when it comes to threatening and, you know, working"}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "with scientists that are studying aliens. The file said John referred to"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "additional documents on these strangelooking people that he was told in his briefing had been destroyed by"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:36", "text": "the man from whom they had originally been taken. Bizarrely, John was informed no record of these diabolical"}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:41", "text": "experiments now existed. Apart from this one solitary letter, in addition, the"}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "location of the bodies of the 17 creatures or people was now unknown, and the entire paper trail appeared to have"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:55", "text": "been destroyed decades ago by the people who had been involved and implicated in the project. It was suspected, however,"}, {"start": "00:38:55", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "albeit only by word of mouth and institutional memory, that in some fashion, the beings found in the Arizona"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:07", "text": "desert in 1943 were directly linked to the dead bodies of unusual appearance"}, {"start": "00:39:07", "end": "00:39:15", "text": "that were said to have been recovered by US military near Roswell, New Mexico in the summer of 1947."}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "Does this lend credence a little bit more to his theory of mutilated mutated"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:28", "text": "people uh that have been like sort of falsely implanted into,"}, {"start": "00:39:28", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "you know, fake UFOs or does this just mean we're dealing with multiple crashes"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "that happened potentially before 1947? Next up, top secret. There was only a"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "very large file at John's disposal titled Autopsies: Bodies Unknown Origin"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "47 that dealt with the bodies of eight equally strangelooking people found in"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "the New Mexico desert. There was no reference in the autopsy report to an accompanying spacecraft or vehicle at"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "all. In the summer of 1947, which John had the opportunity to read at length,"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "all of the quote unquote people were substantially like the creatures taken to Los Alamos in 1943."}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "There was no name on the document to identify the writer. However, John suspects that the name was probably on"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "the missing original title page. He also noted with some significance that a small NASA crest appeared on each and"}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "every page. Given the fact that, as internal references made very clear, the"}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "documentation had been generated some years before NASA had even come into being, the affforementioned crests had"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "to have been added at a later date. perhaps speculated John when NASA managed to obtain a copy of the document"}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:45", "text": "for its own scrutiny and evaluation."}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "John also recalled that the file stated that the eight bodies that of the eight bodies, four were preserved, pretty much"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "intact, two were autopsied and their remains were then completely disposed of and two were dissected and their bodies"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "their body parts and organs were carefully cataloged and preserved separately."}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:12", "text": "John said that the documents referred to a series of both color and black and white photographs of the beings, of the"}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:19", "text": "autopsies, and of their organs. However, at no time did he ever see any photographs in any of the files in his"}, {"start": "00:41:19", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "possession. Several of the bodies were extremely badly damaged in a fashion"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:30", "text": "that suggested some form of violent accident had occurred and the rest were"}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:36", "text": "relatively and surprisingly good condition. It was claimed. The report was very detailed and covered the major"}, {"start": "00:41:36", "end": "00:41:41", "text": "the major bodily organs the brain the eyes the ears the skin which was"}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:48", "text": "described as being sickly white gray color as well as the fingers and toes blood analysis the limbs and the teeth"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:54", "text": "of the entities. Well, folks, we did do an episode on"}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:42:00", "text": "some type of alleged whistleblower that had worked as a geneticist or a microbiologist"}, {"start": "00:42:00", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "um on these bodies. And it would be really cool if he gave"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "us some details here that we could corroborate with said um document. Whitley Strieber also the"}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "fifth mind I think or the fourth mind or the fifth mind fifth mind put out a book recently uh talking about that very"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "document as well. Interestingly, there was another top secret file that had the handwritten title of Autopsy's body's"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:33", "text": "unknown origin 47: Biological Problems and Deaths that dealt with an unknown"}, {"start": "00:42:33", "end": "00:42:39", "text": "virus that had reportedly contaminated and killed an entire medical team that"}, {"start": "00:42:39", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "had examined one of the bodies. All the medical personnel had the foresight to"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "wear protective suits, but these were apparently completely useless when it came to providing adequate biological"}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:59", "text": "protection. Curiously, none of the other bodies exhibited any signs of this unidentified killer virus."}, {"start": "00:42:59", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "Imagine that's the thing that just like undo humanity as one alien here and it, you know, it's bringing COVID"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "308. All right. John stated that one report"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "in particular interested him greatly. It was titled suit study 48 Armageddon"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "and was a lengthy document that was focused upon a scientific study of the clothing that had been found on certain"}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "bodies recovered in New Mexico in 1945. That same clothing was a yellowish color"}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:41", "text": "and was a one-piece outfit that extended from the lower neck right down to the bottom of the feet. It apparently took"}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:47", "text": "several hours to remove the clothing of the creatures by forcibly cutting through the material."}, {"start": "00:43:47", "end": "00:43:54", "text": "Upon examination, it was determined that the suits were put together in what today we would term a Velcro style"}, {"start": "00:43:54", "end": "00:44:02", "text": "fashion. However, the suits seemed to be almost alive or had an inbuilt memory"}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:09", "text": "because not only could the individual fibers bond when brought close together, but they also appear to bond with the"}, {"start": "00:44:09", "end": "00:44:14", "text": "exact same corresponding fibers time and time again."}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:22", "text": "Whoa. You know, often, especially in alien lore, are we presented with these, you"}, {"start": "00:44:22", "end": "00:44:27", "text": "know, tight fitting onesies. Some of them silver in nature, some of"}, {"start": "00:44:27", "end": "00:44:33", "text": "them scaly, some of them just threadlike, like a high count silk"}, {"start": "00:44:33", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "fabric, but they're often described as having no"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:43", "text": "wrinkles, being absolutely perfect. And you know, much like dwarven armor"}, {"start": "00:44:43", "end": "00:44:49", "text": "might be able to fit its wearer perfectly. What technology? And is that"}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "where Velcro comes from? That's kind of cool. Never considered"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "Velcro being alien technology, but uh makes sense."}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:06", "text": "The most bizarre aspect of this file centered around one of the scientific personnel, the shortest member of the"}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:12", "text": "team, who chose to try one of the suits on. No way. Having finally learned how"}, {"start": "00:45:12", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "to undo the suit with ease, his colleagues held it open for him to climb into. Somewhat alarmingly, the suit"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:24", "text": "quickly molded itself around the man. Due to his size, the suit was not"}, {"start": "00:45:24", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "comfortable, but could at least be worn. Something very curious and ominous occurred when the outfit was dawned."}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "However, the man began to feel very claustrophobic and started to receive"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:43", "text": "disturbing images in his mind of a dark and frightening future for the Earth and"}, {"start": "00:45:43", "end": "00:45:51", "text": "for all life on the planet and particularly so for the human race."}, {"start": "00:45:51", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "It was a future that was dominated by an irradiated world, ruined cities, huge"}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:03", "text": "atomic mushroom clouds looming miles upward into an ever black sky as strange"}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "objects resembling flying saucers flew across the ravaged landscape."}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:15", "text": "Perhaps most worryingly of all, the human race had been reduced to absolutely minimal levels as a direct"}, {"start": "00:46:15", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "result of a deadly virus of unknown origins that targeted and destroyed the human immune system."}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "The man in the suit received a distinct and disturbing impression that whatever these creatures were,"}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:34", "text": "they hated us to a truly profound degree. And there was some sort of plan"}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:41", "text": "in the works on their part to try and spark off a nuclear holocaust"}, {"start": "00:46:41", "end": "00:46:46", "text": "between the United States and the Soviets as a means to take us all out of"}, {"start": "00:46:46", "end": "00:46:52", "text": "the picture. That's dark."}, {"start": "00:46:52", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "Now, maybe there are benevolent aliens. Maybe there are evil ones. Um,"}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:05", "text": "was it Lerta that said that there were some Yeah, I think it was in Lerta that"}, {"start": "00:47:05", "end": "00:47:10", "text": "she said there were some species out there that really hated us that wanted"}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:15", "text": "to see us like be annihilated."}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "Correctly sensing that he was in deep distress, the man's colleagues and friends quickly ripped the suit off him."}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:28", "text": "A report was soon prepared, noting carefully that the man was briefed intensively by a team comprising NASA"}, {"start": "00:47:28", "end": "00:47:36", "text": "and CIA personnel with particular expertise in matters of a psychological nature. The file also stated that this"}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "bizarre episode was a further clue to the fact that the suit was somehow alive and appeared to be linked with the minds"}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:50", "text": "and memories of the creatures that had previously worn them. Perhaps most weird of weirdest of all was a note in the"}, {"start": "00:47:50", "end": "00:47:57", "text": "file that stated the suits were thereafter kept locked away in a secure guarded vault and were considered to be"}, {"start": "00:47:57", "end": "00:48:03", "text": "nothing less than intelligent hazards. Whoa."}, {"start": "00:48:03", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "This is wild. This is absolutely wild. This is bananas. This takes the cake. The bee's knees here."}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:16", "text": "You know, we hear about the the spaceships or the crafts that these"}, {"start": "00:48:16", "end": "00:48:24", "text": "aliens inhabit having some type of intelligent skin."}, {"start": "00:48:24", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "It would make sense that if that technology were readily available that they would have transformed it and"}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "adapted it to suits. Also again further illustrates the idea that these beings"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:42", "text": "might somehow be attached to the craft and or the suits that perhaps they are"}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:50", "text": "these soulless drones that simply have some type of hive mind or at least"}, {"start": "00:48:50", "end": "00:48:58", "text": "collective consciousness. Um whoa so weird."}, {"start": "00:48:58", "end": "00:49:04", "text": "Most of the additional files, recall John, fell into two particular categories. One, there were dozens and"}, {"start": "00:49:04", "end": "00:49:11", "text": "dozens of very technical papers on two glider type aircraft that have been found in and retrieved from the New"}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:16", "text": "Mexico desert in 1947. These dealt with structure landing gear and much more"}, {"start": "00:49:16", "end": "00:49:22", "text": "that John could not recall. two, there were also literally hundreds of one and"}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:28", "text": "two-page memos from and to various personnel discussing ongoing projects,"}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:34", "text": "many of which focused upon biological and bacteriological issues and UFOs."}, {"start": "00:49:34", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "John said that there was never any reference in the files to the creatures or the aircraft being definitively"}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:47", "text": "extraterrestrial in origin. Indeed, no one seemed to have any solid awareness of what they were or"}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "what might have been their point of origin. So, the ultraterrestrial option"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:59", "text": "is still on the table. Interdimensional, you know, not necessarily extraterrestrial."}, {"start": "00:49:59", "end": "00:50:07", "text": "John told me that there was a small collection of documents dating from July 1947 speculating that this might have"}, {"start": "00:50:07", "end": "00:50:14", "text": "all been the result of an ingenious hoax on the part of the Soviets. Until that is, it very quickly became apparent to"}, {"start": "00:50:14", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "one and all that not even the Soviet Union would have had the required expertise to successfully pull off such"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:26", "text": "a fantastic ruse, much less biologically alter or mutate a number of human beings"}, {"start": "00:50:26", "end": "00:50:33", "text": "into something so different. Another theory mentioned in the records, John asserted that this was all part of a US"}, {"start": "00:50:33", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "cover story to hide far more downto-earth cold war atrocities undertaken on mentally and physically"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:45", "text": "handicapped people. John stated that among the people with whom he worked,"}, {"start": "00:50:45", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "however, there were three possibilities that were considered as being among the most interesting."}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:57", "text": "Possibility number one, these things were from another world entirely. Possibility number two, they were from"}, {"start": "00:50:57", "end": "00:51:04", "text": "somewhere on Earth, other dimensions or more remote parts of the world were discussed. And number three, they were"}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:09", "text": "incredibly from our very own distant future. John"}, {"start": "00:51:09", "end": "00:51:16", "text": "added that in discussion with colleagues at Area 51, he learned that even by the turn of 1970s, there was still no"}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:21", "text": "definitive proof to what these creatures were or from where they came. But there"}, {"start": "00:51:21", "end": "00:51:27", "text": "was one point that for some of the personnel strengthened the time travel idea. Although the glider aircraft"}, {"start": "00:51:27", "end": "00:51:33", "text": "recovered in New Mexico were most certainly highly advanced technologically speaking, several components within the craft were"}, {"start": "00:51:33", "end": "00:51:39", "text": "constructed in feet and inch measurements. A system that John concluded aliens from"}, {"start": "00:51:39", "end": "00:51:45", "text": "a distant planet would simply not employ. In other words, the craft themselves and the entities that built"}, {"start": "00:51:45", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "them seem to be connected to us to a significant degree. Whoa. I've never"}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:57", "text": "heard of that. That is wild. That is wild. Now, you know, some of you"}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:52:03", "text": "are thinking, well, why Americans? Why not centimeters? I mean, what if what if Americans were the first ones to"}, {"start": "00:52:03", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "discover this stuff? Then they would, you know, everything they would have would be measured in perhaps inches. I"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "don't know. Super weird. The most suspicious aspect of the whole"}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "affair for NASA, however, was not only were these creatures apparently completely comfortable breathing our"}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:26", "text": "air, but they were also perfectly synchronized for the Earth's atmospheric pressure, too, which seemed to be too"}, {"start": "00:52:26", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "coincidental. John said that this information decisively split the teams into two camps."}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:40", "text": "One that favored the idea that these creatures were from Earth, either from a time far in the future or from some"}, {"start": "00:52:40", "end": "00:52:46", "text": "secret location on the Earth in our present, and one that believed that they were indeed aliens,"}, {"start": "00:52:46", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "that had been genetically altered in some truly radical fashion that involved a science far beyond our own to allow"}, {"start": "00:52:53", "end": "00:52:59", "text": "them to comfortably operate on our planet."}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:05", "text": "Whoa. I still maintain the AI theory. Like these are some type of like AI drones"}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:11", "text": "that are sent here to monitor the Earth, probably sent to a billion other planets."}, {"start": "00:53:11", "end": "00:53:16", "text": "John remained with the program for the pre-arranged one-year contract and then carved out a career for himself in the"}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:21", "text": "private sector, which included doing security background checks on people applying for jobs with NASA before"}, {"start": "00:53:21", "end": "00:53:28", "text": "finally retiring in the winter of 1981. His thoughts and theories on this curious affair, as well as his exposure"}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:33", "text": "to the files at issue are intriguing. As he pointed out, he had absolutely no"}, {"start": "00:53:33", "end": "00:53:38", "text": "expertise in the area of UFOs whatsoever. And so why, if it was such a"}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:45", "text": "huge and important secret, was he even briefed on the subject matter in the first place? In addition, he wondered,"}, {"start": "00:53:45", "end": "00:53:51", "text": "given the alleged magnitude and significance of the operation, is this not the type of job that a person would"}, {"start": "00:53:51", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "have been drafted into for his entire working life rather than just for a mere"}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "12 months at most. That's a really good point. It's interesting that John himself brings"}, {"start": "00:54:02", "end": "00:54:08", "text": "that point up. Taking these facts into careful consideration, John stressed that"}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:13", "text": "although the documentation at issue certainly looked genuine, he was never able to entirely dismiss from his mind"}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:20", "text": "the possibility that this exposure to the files could have been part of some large curious and convoluted mind game"}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "on part of NASA and the intelligence services such as the CIA, Air Force intelligence, and the NSA. Because his"}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:34", "text": "work at Area 51 and his access to the files came about as a direct result of his FBI contacts, John speculated that"}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:40", "text": "his superiors may have exposed him to totally bogus materials at Area 51 and"}, {"start": "00:54:40", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "then watched his every move to see if he spoke out of turn. The fact that Jon never did speak out of turn in that"}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:53", "text": "12-month period and was thereafter considered utterly trustworthy led him to be rewarded with a near decadel long"}, {"start": "00:54:53", "end": "00:54:59", "text": "career in the private sector. It was a career that saw him move practically effortlessly with highly"}, {"start": "00:54:59", "end": "00:55:05", "text": "influential circles in the world of US intelligence that were totally unconnected"}, {"start": "00:55:05", "end": "00:55:11", "text": "to UFOs. The truth may really be out there, but it appears to be a truth that is guarded"}, {"start": "00:55:11", "end": "00:55:18", "text": "and protected by an infinite number of Hall of Mirrors style cover stories."}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:24", "text": "Wow. You know, up until that very last"}, {"start": "00:55:24", "end": "00:55:30", "text": "paragraph, I also was like, \"This guy could just be saying anything.\" But he echoes much of"}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:36", "text": "what Bob Lazar says in that he is so familiar with the way that these"}, {"start": "00:55:36", "end": "00:55:42", "text": "intelligence agencies work that like he wouldn't put it past them"}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "to do some type of weird sort of passage material SCOP in that if"}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "you're given certain information so specific that if leaked they would know who"}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:56:01", "text": "leaked it, right? It's like individually curated for every person. And maybe him"}, {"start": "00:56:01", "end": "00:56:08", "text": "and the three friends he was with were all given different compartmentalized bogus information or the information"}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "that they, you know, were given was mixed with bogus information to see if they had what it took to work in the"}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:22", "text": "private sectors. Because as he said, why would you only hire him for one year? And then once you did hire him for one"}, {"start": "00:56:22", "end": "00:56:28", "text": "year, like why wouldn't you renew his contract if he didn't talk? So that does"}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:36", "text": "actually I don't know what to make of it. It is smoking mirrors, dude. It's not just hauling a hall of mirrors. It's"}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:42", "text": "genuine magic tricks. Misdirection at its finest. Who knows?"}, {"start": "00:56:42", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "But man, what I wouldn't give to see one of those suits. Could you imagine?"}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:54", "text": "My brain is a little bit uh in a blur right now. I'm trying to piece together"}, {"start": "00:56:54", "end": "00:57:01", "text": "a lot of that information that was laid out here before me, but should you come across any type of connection that I had"}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:07", "text": "missed, please let me know in the comments. I feel like there's a lot that we can pull from this particular"}, {"start": "00:57:07", "end": "00:57:12", "text": "chapter. Very interesting. I'm going to be reading the rest of this book. This is Nick Redern. Uh if you want to check"}, {"start": "00:57:12", "end": "00:57:19", "text": "it out, I'll leave the link below. fascinating to just pull a random chapter. Shout out to Michael Phillip"}, {"start": "00:57:19", "end": "00:57:26", "text": "for suggesting that. And if you guys have any books that you would like me to read, whether on or off the podcast, let"}, {"start": "00:57:26", "end": "00:57:32", "text": "me know. We also do have a book club over at the Area 52 Discord. We are currently reading American Cosmic by"}, {"start": "00:57:32", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "Diana Pulka. If you want to join in on that or any other future activities, uh"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "come and join us on the Discord. Join the membership to check out the extra videos, not to mention secret access to"}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:50", "text": "the Discord and much, much more. Early access on every video, by the way. And"}, {"start": "00:57:50", "end": "00:57:55", "text": "yeah, check us out area52.shop yada yada yada. Folks, you've been nothing but"}, {"start": "00:57:55", "end": "00:58:01", "text": "patient and nothing but understanding. I appreciate you watching this far and I look forward to seeing you on the next"}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:22", "text": "one. Peace and love. [Music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "Spain 1971 Mount Py above the Bay of Roses near Katakess. A cold clear night"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "and a radar station watching the sky. Corporal Jesus Hafreia was on duty at AA"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "4, a Spanish Air Force radar base built into the mountain side."}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "So yeah, this used to be a base radar for controlling"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "the air access point to the peninsula which is why it was strategically"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "located very close to France in the town of Rosascades. So it was a secret"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "military base like any unusual base. This was happening back in 71."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "So we were living in some houses in the radar area"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "and uh our mission was to patrol the entire perimeter."}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "When we did that, we had a group of uh German shepherd dogs,"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "especially trained for this job. That night, something felt a little off."}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "The dogs wouldn't stop barking. March 25,71."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "The dogs were really agitated. We went to calm them down, but we could"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "tell something was going on. Something out of the ordinary"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "or that the dogs were picking up on something that wasn't quite normal."}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "Anyway, we left the dogs alone and went to watch TV, but they kept making a fuss until"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "my buddy, who was in charge of the dogs and me, since I was assigned as a"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "corporal, I decide to step away from the group"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "because I noticed something was going on, something that didn't seem normal. And when we uh stepped out of our hats"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "and uh wanting to head to where the dogs were, a body who was in the guard booth"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "pointed up at the sky and said, \"Look over there.\" And there we saw a ship."}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "Was it a disc? This craft was a classic one or like two place, one on top of the other. Very"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "classic. And it gave off a golden yellow glow."}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "Bright. Really bright. Letting us see the whole structure because the light"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "didn't blind us. Folks, just a quick announcement. The"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "Majestic 12 clearance sale is now live. You can now save up to 50%"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "on our Majestic 12 merch line, which includes all of our t-shirts, both for"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "men and women, our sweaters, our journals. This sale only lasts until Wednesday. So, check it out."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "Area52.shop. Six men stood together staring up at"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "this oval-shaped light as it drifted left to right across the horizon. Then"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "in an instant it shot toward the sea and disappeared. It was right above the microwave hats,"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "the ones that hold or used to hold all the radar antennas at a very close distance because to our eyes it looked"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "about 10 to 12 in across. I mean it was really close."}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "After watching it for a length of time, we could never really figure out maybe about a minute. A minute and a half"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "later, the craft skidded up into the sky"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "at an incredibly high speed. Did you see the craft shift before it"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "took off? It's a strange question. As it was heading out, it took a slightly diagonal angle to the right and it"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "started off slowly at first, but for just a second or two, and then it shot"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "up toward the sky really fast. There was another report that I read"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "about somebody uh seeing a powerful flash and then them having some sort of"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "uh eye problems afterwards, like swollen eyes for a few days. Uh, does can you"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "elaborate on that? Exactly. And this happened to Luis, the coworker who was in the booth. He got"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "almost to the edge of the rocky ledge that formed the base."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "And then there was a a moment when uh he saw the ship come down on those very"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "same days. It came down at incredible speed and when he reached the water it"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "looked like he hit with a very bright flash of light that hurt his eyes."}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "[Music] They found him clutching his eyes half blind from a brilliant flash that seemed"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "to come from the sea. His eyes were swollen and red for days and the base"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "medic couldn't explain it. Trying to calm the dogs, Jesus grabbed his sidearm"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "and joined Adria, the handler. Then I realized something was going on"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "with the dog hell wearing the obedience collar"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "and us with our leashes. With our weapons ready, we headed out"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "toward the microwave shack to see what was going on there because we could see a kind of glow"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "green in color and behind. They took one of the German shepherds"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "and followed the green beam of light to the huts near the fence line. The air seemed to be charged, thick with static."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "Jesus said his tongue tingled like touching a live battery. Even the dog wind, shaking its head as if it hurt."}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "We saw a flash of green light that shouldn't have been there because that's where the base ended and only the"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "perimeter fences were left. We heard a sound like very heavy"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "footsteps coming toward us. The thing is he was taking steps that"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "seemed to be coming really fast to us because with such great height each step"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "cover a lot of ground. Heavy footsteps, something large moving fast."}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "Stop. They shouted and no response again. Nothing. And right away uh we saw a very"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "tall figure about 7 feet to 7 feet 2 in tall. Later based on the conversation we"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "had we believe it was coming toward us."}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "Did my partner call out Halt? Who goes there? Adria in a panic opened fire. Jesus"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "grabbed his sidearm and also fired three times and the flashes from the guns lit the night and the being just stood"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "there. And what about my partner? Without waiting for a third warning, he started"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "firing his standard issue weapon here in Spain. It was the set me brand and uh he"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "fired off the rounds he had in the magazine at close range."}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "I, being the corporal, was carrying a 9 mm pistol."}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "Ready for action, I also fired four shots toward the same figure."}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "A figure over 2 m tall, thin, pale, and long hair falling past its shoulders,"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "wearing a belt around its waist with an inverted triangle emblem at the center."}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "The only light there was came from our shot. So that's what allowed us to see the"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "being a thin gaunt figure"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "very tall with long hair that reached his shoulders golden blonde in other"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "words a tight fitting suit kind of like fabric with a metallic sheen as we'd say"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "relatively speaking what stood out the most was that on the belt there was a"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "buckle with a special symbol. This symbol is very well illustrated here in"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "the book. It gleamed in the light of our"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "shot, though we've always wondered whether it was just reflecting that light or if it truly had a glow of its"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "own. It was like a silvery gray. It went up to his neck"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "like a turtleneck. didn't have any other designs or emblems on his body that we"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "couldn't make out. And we couldn't see their face either,"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "but we did see their hair. At the sound of the shots, that figure stopped."}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "And for a while, we also felt like something strange had happened, almost"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "as if time had stopped. At the end of that suspended moment,"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "the figure turned around and went back the way it had come."}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "After a few seconds, it turned, walked away, and they heard the metallic crash of a fence. We stopped. But uh after"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "just a short while, we heard a bang against the perimeter fence because they"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "were those metal fences with cross patterns. They moved. They're the kind"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "of fences that shift and we could hear the fence. Someone or something was"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "bumping into the fence and the fence was making noise. After that, we didn't hear"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "anything else. I h grabbed the dog and told him to move forward. Along the"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "fence, it started heading to the left. There was a moment when it stopped."}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "Then, by the light of our flashlights, we saw that the fence was missing in a"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "section about 16 to 20 in wide. At daylight, they found a massive"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "section of the inner fence missing, disintegrated. the outer fence right beside it"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "perfectly intact. No tracks, no sign of what broke through. I'll tell you now that the next day once"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "it was light out. We uh went to check out the the fence and the fence these 50"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "cm were missing. They had just vanished. The fence had the edges that were badly"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "scorched, but there wasn't any trace of the fence left. We had to stitch up the"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "whole fence with wire to close it. That's the end of the incident. From"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "this point on, the base commanders step in because when they hear gunshots, they"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "head up to the radar. uh let's see what happened and when they"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "show up they start saying maybe we were drunk and fire off shots in a moment of"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "madness or that they going to give us a serious talking to and that's what they did. They each wrote um um a separate"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "report to explain what had happened. Then things happened over the next three"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "nights. Uh first when at the very end of the day"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "we finally go to bed. It was already really late at night."}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "I fell asleep in my bed with a heavy drowsiness like something strange and I"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "started to dream. The scene where we get to where the being is"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "and I saw us firing. Then I could hear a bunch of voices in"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "my head. that made it impossible to understand anything that was going on there."}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "That was the first night. The same thing happened on the third night."}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "But then I really did understand everything the being who came to me was saying"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "two nights later on March 27th the light returned. This time around 60 witnesses"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "on base saw it hovering for several minutes. Approximately how many people witnessed"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "it? Everyone at the base could see it since they were all watching the sky."}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "Look, there were 150 soldiers at the base"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "and there there were almost 200 officers and non-commission officers"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "because the runner was operating 24 hours a day. The officers, specialists,"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "and so on took shift to cover the whole day. This was the small base we had with"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "more officers than actual soldiers."}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "Wow. Jesus said our reputation had been saved, but still no radar record and"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "nothing official. Then on March 29th, they came back again, but this time two"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "phantom jets were seen approaching the object before all three accelerated and vanished into the night sky. The Air"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "Force denied any aircraft were ever launched, but radar operators whispered otherwise. I guess your bosses were"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "probably wondering, you know, you guys were drunk. You were out there finding a reason to shoot your guns, and that was"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "the best you could do. But then they had this mass sighting which then triggered an investigation."}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "Uh if I'm not mistaken, American soldiers as well were involved, but maybe I'm mistaken there. Uh but they"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "came and took pictures and uh interviewed uh personnel afterwards. Correct. For now, our officers are a lieutenant"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "colonel and a commander. They interviewed the three of us and had"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "us repeat the story and write a separate report for each of us."}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "There we wrote down everything I've been telling you up to now."}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "Two American servicemen showed up, one black and the other white."}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "along with an officer from the Spanish Air Force who spoke excellent English."}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "They came to the base to look into this and ask us some questions."}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "They questioned the soldiers one by one separately, told them to forget what"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "they saw and then photographed each man outside against a white wall using a"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "powerful flash even in daylight. No explanation, no report."}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "Yeah. And they were really bright flashes that gave off kind of a violet color and and they left us blinded."}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "And they told us to forget all about this. You haven't you can't talk to anyone about any of this. Forget it."}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "Forget it. Forget it. And honestly, we forgot about it."}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "The veteran eupfologist Antonio Rivera uh later confirmed parts of this story, writing that American technicians were"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "actually seen inspecting the cliffs near the bay, the same cliffs where the UFO had been observed descending into the"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "sea. Officially, it was a radar maintenance check. Unofficially, well,"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "no one was talking and the case was sealed as a reserved matter by the"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "Spanish Ministry of Defense. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "currently in Katakess uh Spain which is this small coastal town and not too far"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "from here well there's this big radar base so I've been coming to this town for 5 years now I think four or five"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "years and kind of do a get together with fellow magicians we hang out and we just kind of it's kind of like a vacation"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "spot for me and it's been that for like four or five years but ever Since coming here, I've always been enamored by this"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "massive sphere that sits at top this mountain. Now, no matter where you are"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "in this vicinity, you're always kind of seeing the sphere in the background, which is like this"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "wild dichotomy between this advanced tech military presence and the"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "naturefilled sort of whimsical and easygoing Spanish coastline. And so,"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "it's always really stuck out to me. And before coming here, which is interesting because there was a congressional"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "hearing on UFOs, UAP happening in Washington at the same time, but I"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "wasn't drawn to that. In fact, I was drawn to a story that I had come across while researching if there were any"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "stories on this area or within this area. And turns out that radar base"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "was a bit of a hot spot. Now, I've brought along with me Jesse Michaels, who obviously you guys will recognize"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "from American Alchemy, and just just to bond and chill and hang out. He was in Europe anyway, so I invited him to this"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "magic get together, and I thought it'd be interesting if we together went to go"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "check out this radar base. And that's exactly what we're going to be doing. We're going to be going up there with a"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "local, my friend John, who has himself had an encounter about three years ago"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "right here. This happened four years ago. So before you actually started your channel, I believe."}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "Yeah. Before Area 52, correct? Yeah, absolutely. Here's exactly where this happened. Exactly. On that island. I was with my"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "friend Kik. We're on the terrace. It was after sunset. was getting kind of dark"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "and uh and suddenly we're at the terrace just drinking wine and then this light came. I wouldn't say a spaceship. I"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "don't put a shape on it. It's just this very bright light that appear from far"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "then came really close in meters like uh like 150 200 m. Yeah. H but then went"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "away again. But the strange thing is the movement. It wasn't like linear linear. It was sort of like like this and then"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "fast here and then slow smooth and then fast again and then it just lasted let's"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "say 20 30 seconds the time to see my friends and be like are are you seeing"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "what I'm seeing and he was like yes so it's good that he was there and then suddenly it did a few moves more like"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "this and then it went away super fast and disappeared. What color was the light? It was light but it wasn't just white."}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "It was a little gray and blue in it. So maybe kind of like the ocean now, you know, a little gray like this, but in a"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "shiny way. How high above the water do you think it was? Was it like up in the sky?"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "Yeah, it was like up like right here, like in front of us, you know? Um and and then it the it got brighter."}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "Yeah. Uh so that meant I mean at least I thought that was getting closer and then it just went away in the distance. But"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "again, the movement didn't make any sense because it could go slow and and not in a direction but like spinning and"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "then it could go instantaneously super fast. So it it was very strange. The case that you know I'm looking at"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "out here from Jesus Hoffia who worked at this radar base. This is the area where he said the craft"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "came from as well and it was a bright light for him you know as well. Just for the people watching this is an island."}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "Yes. No one's flying a drone out here. It wasn't a drone. It wasn't a drone. It's It's No. No way. Drones make noise."}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "They don't go the speed. They don't have that speed. It's just like an instant of going to places and then and then just"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "disappearing like that. And I know it wasn't anything else I've ever seen before because again it was the way it"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "moved actually more than the even the light itself. It's just like how it flowed through the air and then just"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "vanished like that. What was your reaction with your buddy? Were you guys scared? Were you excited? Well, we were excited. I thought it was"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "really cool and also like happy to finally see something like that that you hear so much like, \"Oh, the aliens, the"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "this and that.\" Well, at least I had my own experience. H But at the same time, we looked at each other laughing"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "thinking they're not going to believe us, you know, like they're going to be like, \"Oh, I'm sure it was something else.\" But I know when I see my friend"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "that we know we know what we saw, you know, so it's okay."}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "We're going to see how close we can get to this radar base. Obviously, there are signs saying access is prohibited and"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "there are fencing. So, who knows? Maybe we'll run into somebody coming out of the base. Maybe somebody's going to come and talk to us. Maybe somebody, you"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "know, kind of changing shifts. Uh, and maybe we'll be able to intercept them and ask them a few questions about not"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "only that sort of event, but maybe other phenomenon that they might have observed, seeing as how they do work in"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "a radar base and if UAP or UFO presence is in the area, they would be aware of"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "it. Jesse, yeah. You ready to go infiltrate a military base?"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "So ready. We're going there."}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "Right there. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "[Applause] [Music]"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "See any aliens? All right, we're coming up to the spot. Says restricted access."}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "Restricted entry military zone. We can park here, right? No one else is coming. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "All right. All right. So, here we are. This is the entrance to the military zone, which is the radar base of Roses,"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "which is right there, right behind me. Um,"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "that would be the spot where those UFOs came up on."}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "I kind of just want to hang out and see if anybody comes says hi to us or tells us that we can't go any further"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "cuz then uh maybe at least we could talk to somebody, some type of military"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "official. They're probably watching us right now is my guess. Yes. What's the feeling you get being here?"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "Uh, you know, excited. I look at this sign, but like I don't see anybody here,"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "and I think we can keep going. You think we You think we should keep going? I do. Do you think we're being looked at right"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "now? Uh, no, I don't. We got a car that just drove"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "down the hill and parked itself up top there. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "Oh, they're on their way down. I mean, that road leads to right where you're you're at."}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "Let's see if these guys uh want to play ball. Back in the day, Jesus, the guy"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "that worked here, said that the UFOs that were seen hovering above the base"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "two nights after um were witnessed by 150 employees."}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "Wow. He said there are anywhere up to 200 employees in that radar base every day. Whoa."}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "Yeah. It's 24/7. Uh, but it seems like they remain quite tight lipped about their stuff. Um, you know, oh, there's a"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "car coming down. You think they're going for it? Well, I mean, there's a van. I bet if we were dressed up like cyclists or"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "something. Yeah. They wouldn't mind so much. You just be like, \"Sorry, I don't speak Spanish.\" Yeah. I think if you say Jesse Michaels loud"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "enough, our phones start to record."}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "Just like if like what's going on up there? Just act act dumb basically."}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "What's one of the uh what's one of the Google reviews you were saying? This one says push it down the hill."}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "Ball eventually pollutes the surroundings of Captain Chaos Natural Park. One star review. One star."}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "Someone else says, \"Oh, wait. This car is coming. Long live aliens.\" Wait, he says long live aliens."}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "That's the translation. And then it's got a lot of people liking it. This car is coming right around the van."}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "yet. Extremely slow. I got him on camera."}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "Really? It was at this moment he knew. All right. I don't know where that car"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "went. Um it seems to be like parked behind the bend or something. I don't really think don't think anyone's"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "coming. That car just whipped by us here. Didn't even stop to say hi. So, unless we see another vehicle come down,"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "I don't think we're going to be able to talk to anybody. So unfortunately, our expedition to the AVA 4 radar base bore"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "no more fruit and we eventually made our way back down the mountain. But the search for more witnesses still"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "continues. In the years that followed the incident at Urosa's radar base, Jesus continued"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "to speak about what he had witnessed. He had left the military shortly afterward and became involved in the growing"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "civilian UFO research movement in Spain during the 1970s. Jesus collaborated"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "with investigators and groups that documented sightings throughout Catalonia, often exchanging information with researchers such as Antonio Ribera"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "and JJ Bonitez. He stated that his motivation was not to prove anything to authorities, but to understand what he"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "and his companions had experienced on Mount Penny. This led the three of us"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "veterans, the dog handler and Selmo Luis and me who were in the little guard"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "house last night. We built a great bond through this whole"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "situation. In the end, it pushed us to go on a"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "search after our military service like a UFO craze everywhere."}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "In fact, anywhere a UFO showed up, people knew we were going to check it out. By then, strange reports were spreading"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "through the valley below. Shepherds said their sheep were vanishing. Two were found mutilated. Farmers said their cows"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "gave less milk. And even days later, the dogs were still uneasy. In September of"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "1971, the lights came back. Red, green, yellow, shifting colors that moved east"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "to west across the sky and then back again the next night. And on the 17th,"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "witnesses saw a triangular craft low on the horizon, flashing bright enough to cast reflections on the water. But"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "according to Spain's Centro de Studios Interplanetarios, nailed it. Something similar had already"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "happened here months before, late 1970. Radar operators saw a reddish gold ovoid"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "craft rising straight up, then suddenly turning at a perfect right angle and"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "disappearing over the Bay of Roses. Even that object never appeared on radar. And"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "then 5 years later, it happened again. This time, a different base with"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "different soldiers. But the same impossible pattern. You see, November 12th, 1976, Tala La Real Air Base near"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "Bados, two soldiers on night patrol, Jose\u00e9 Maria Trejo and Juan Karisa Luhan,"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "hear a strange mechanical whistle coming from the darkness near the fuel depot. A high-pitched electrical tone."}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "They call out, no answer. The dog bolts towards the sound, then returns"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "staggering, disoriented, and sick. Moments later, a light appears overhead,"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "bright and motionless, then fades, leaving the night completely silent. And"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "that's when they see it. A luminous figure around 3 m tall, composed of moving points of green light, its"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "outline shifting like static electricity. Tjo collapses. Karisoa"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "opens fire. 40 to 50 rounds echo through the base. When the others arrive, the being is"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "gone, vanished as if it winked out of existence. No bullet casings, no impact"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "marks, no blood, nothing. Tjo is hospitalized for temporary blindness,"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "headaches, and vision loss. The Air Force confirms the gunfire occurred, but"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "never what it was aimed at. The official connection between Roses and Tala was"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "never made, but the resemblance is impossible to ignore. Both cases to this"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "day remain classified. And in Roses, the locals still talk about the lights over the sea, how they rise up quietly and"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "hover for a moment and vanish, leaving behind only questions. By the early 1980s, Jesus had moved to"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "the Pyrenees near the French border. He remained active in UFO research and"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "claimed to continue observing luminous aerial phenomena in the region. Well, after searching for UFOs for a"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "year and a bit, I realized it wasn't leading anywhere. We"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "had lots of data and plenty of explanations from the people who had"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "experienced the incidents, but uh no one was helping us uh get back"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "that connection we' had. I realized it wasn't so much about waiting. Not so"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "much that a being of higher intelligence would come to contact you, but rather that you"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "should prepare yourself to be in a position to seek out that contact."}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "And then I began a whole personal journey of inner search in many places,"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "in many things. During this period, well, he reported a"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "new type of experience, one he describes as direct contact. Uh, I spent over 10 years searching in"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "esoteric schools, in religious philosophies, in many places where I hope to find something."}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "The answers to the truth about human reality until the moment came when I"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "made up my mind. In my own personal growth, it led me to start looking for a"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "life that was more in line with my wishes. Welcome the family and head off"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "with them to the Pyrenees in Yea. And that's when uh we arrived in the"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "Pyrenees. What really started the contact I had been seeking with these"}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "beings. That's when I started having some notes"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "that were with epigraph. I'm not sure if uh you can understand this system which"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "is automatic writing uh like when your hand moves and writes"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "by itself, right? I started getting in touch with these beings and had"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "encounters with different ones and I started to have uh sightings arranged"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "for a specific place, day and time. When a craft would appear, we could see it in"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "the sky. Sometimes farther away and sometimes closer,"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "it was proof that the contact was real, not just our imagination. There was a"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "craft that came down to where we were with the car and gave us a big flash of"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "light, the one that left us a little shaken."}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "According to Jesus, around a decade after 1971 encounter, he met an entity he called Shahim. I'd like to uh move on"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "to what happened afterwards with his contact experiences. Look, Chris, let me say something"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "because it needs to be said. I'm 76 years old now"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "and uh I don't care what people think anymore,"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "but I can understand that uh all of this falls into the realm of the fantastic"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "and the unbelievable. So, uh I'm"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "basically inviting everyone to think whatever they want and believe whatever they want. Right? I'm just sharing my"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "experience. exactly as I lived it. Let them think whatever they want, whether"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "they believe me or think I'm crazy. I don't care at this point. Not me. This"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "doesn't bother me anymore. I was living in Barcelona again, but uh"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "I had a house built in the Pyrenees and I got a message telling me to go to the"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "Pyrenees on December 8 or 9. It was a day in December when we would meet and"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "talk. This is the message I got. At that time, I stepped out onto the porch at"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "the back of my house and uh I saw something like a sphere"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "about 10 ft or more in size, golden in color. It stopped, came down, and"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "hovered in the meadow behind my house. There was the sphere that sphere that"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "was opaque. It cleared up became transparent and I could see inside it."}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "[Music] He described the being as tall and"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "humanlike and said the communication took place telepathically."}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "Not a bit of fear. I remember thinking, have they done something, some kind of"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "job to help me stay calm from the sim sphere in a single step?"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "He covered the six or seven or maybe 8 m."}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "That was the distance to my porch and he showed up right at my front"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "porch. And there he was right in front of me. Charing comes over to me and he"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "starts talking to me. Right away I realize he's the same being"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "we fired at during military service."}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "And uh I'm thinking, \"Oh my gosh, when is this guy going to realize"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "since I shot at him, he might just give me a slap?"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "But luckily that's not what happened. He started talking to me about the reason"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "behind why I was meant to have my encounter,"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "about all the preparation I had in my life for that meeting. He started talking to me about a lot of"}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "things that really put me at ease because they helped me understand the reason behind it all. You know, there"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "was a moment when because of Shahim's height"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "and uh I being 5'9 was looking up so I could talk to him and thought"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "my neck's going to get stiff but it was like we were uh communicating"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "mind-to- mind and before I could even ask a question"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "he was already giving me the answers. We had we did have a conversation in"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:31", "text": "words, but pay close attention in my uh in my native uh Spanish."}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:37", "text": "I was hearing everything in uh Spanish, right?"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "So then he put his hand, his own hand on my shoulder"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "and the moment he touches me. No, I hadn't told you. But he got caught"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "up in some sort of double body, I immediately thought of a bluish color"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "and figure it was some kind of protection."}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:08", "text": "When they put their hand on my shoulder, that that beam from that double"}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:13", "text": "protective body, it completely took over me. It wrapped"}, {"start": "00:37:13", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "around me entirely. And at that moment, what happened was"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "amazing because I started to float rising up to that height. My head"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "reached the same height as his. I figure that if he put his hand on my shoulder,"}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "I should put my hand on his shoulder. But uh what happened to me was"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "incredible because my hand sank into Shahim's body."}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "Then I realized that he had more of an energetic density than a physical one."}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "So then when I realized it, I lifted my hand again and once I became aware of"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "it, I was able to place my hand on his shoulder and he stayed there."}, {"start": "00:38:11", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "From this point on, we have a pretty long conversation. It lasted almost an"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "hour during which I asked questions in my mind and got immediate answers. Our"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "conversation was more personal and I've never shared the exact details of it,"}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:37", "text": "only the general topics. Jesus claimed that Shahim conveyed ideas"}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "about human progress, ethics, and what he referred to as universal brotherhood,"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "an emphasis on moral development, and cooperation among intelligent civilizations."}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "These later experiences were peaceful and introspective, very different from the confrontation at"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:01", "text": "Ava 4. When when Shahim says to me, \"Come with"}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "me because we need to go on a little trip."}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "He took me into his fear of light. Had it kind of dimmed in terms of the"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "light it was giving off. It wasn't, you couldn't see it from anyone passing by."}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "And the two of us stepped into the sphere of light"}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "with the sphere of light. We traveled in a brief moment because I"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "stayed in one in a perfect one on a sensory level. I completely lost it. No"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "contact with anything. And after a stretch of time, I can't really define,"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "we arrived at Shahim ship is this one I showed you here in the drawing. Okay."}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "Then we got on Shareim's ship which is called Estella"}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:07", "text": "and it's a small research approach vessel. It's a it's a ship that's 16 m in"}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "diameter. It carries four crew members."}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "What um does he go into the controls at all? Is there anything"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "he can elaborate on the inside of the controls or insignas or any any you know"}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "symbols or anything like that on the inside that would uh that he could talk about?"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "Take a look at the main emblem of these beings. It's the letter F."}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "the letter F, not the letter P. Yes, this is the letter FI, which is"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "1,686."}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "Okay. And this emblem is the drawing I'm showing you here. And the only"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "emblem we saw inside the ship was this one, which was in different places."}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:11", "text": "But uh what about the ship? It gave off its own light from all the"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "walls. There were no lights. There was a light coming from all the"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:25", "text": "walls. The ships aren't physically built ships"}, {"start": "00:41:25", "end": "00:41:32", "text": "with screws, wells, doors, and windows. The ships created in the mind."}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "When Charin took me over to what was almost a wall of the ship"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:47", "text": "where there was basically just a desk on it there were different kinds of lights"}, {"start": "00:41:47", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "and there it came up from the ground some kind of seat of a chair or"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:42:00", "text": "armchair. So when I sat down in this armchair, it"}, {"start": "00:42:00", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "molded to my body. And uh he did the same right next to me."}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "The wall in front of us, he fiddled with something and it turned"}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "into a window, a surface that let us see outside."}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:29", "text": "This is very common. This is I've heard of this uh many times. You can I don't"}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:36", "text": "know if he's familiar with Bob Lazar, but he described the same thing in his craft. Yeah, he he he experienced the"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:42", "text": "same thing. He said the wall became transparent and he could see through, but he says it wasn't uh completely"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "transparent. It was like a little foggy, practically transparent, but it was"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "still there. It was like a thick piece of glass."}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:59", "text": "The Tarin took me on a trip. He came with the ship right to my house."}, {"start": "00:42:59", "end": "00:43:07", "text": "He flew over and then took me in the ship to a famous mountain in Catalonia called Monzerat."}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:15", "text": "Does uh real quick, can he elaborate on Sheree's facial features a little bit"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:23", "text": "more? Here's the picture of Shahim. Blue eyes slightly slanted upward. Blue"}, {"start": "00:43:23", "end": "00:43:32", "text": "eyes, golden hair, in other words, blonde. And this is the face of a delicate, very"}, {"start": "00:43:32", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "delicate smile and with very thin lips, but uh"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "definitely not a big head or anything like that. Anyway,"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:51", "text": "I have to tell you, uh, they look into the mind of the person they're talking"}, {"start": "00:43:51", "end": "00:43:58", "text": "to, their idea of beauty and aesthetics. And I guess that when they let"}, {"start": "00:43:58", "end": "00:44:03", "text": "themselves be seen in physical form, they're taking on something that's"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:09", "text": "pleasing to you. Wrapping this up in Monserat,"}, {"start": "00:44:09", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "we had contact with beings who lived inside the mountain. They are masters of"}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:22", "text": "light, masters of memory. And there's a a place that like a part"}, {"start": "00:44:22", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "of or a branch of Shambala, but that's a whole different story"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "for now. He took me to Monserat. Then he came back to my place and left"}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "again. We went back to the ship. It was still where he had been. And uh we went"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:47", "text": "back down with the sphere to the porch of my house."}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "Until his later years, Jesus maintained that what happened at the radar base in 1971 was the beginning of a process, one"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:45:03", "text": "that led him from the structure of the military duty to a lifelong search for meaning in the phenomenon. Well, um I"}, {"start": "00:45:03", "end": "00:45:09", "text": "think I've already told you quite a lot. Now, please you go ahead and ask me"}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:15", "text": "because I'm not really sure how much more I should explain about all this."}, {"start": "00:45:15", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "Okay. Um I have a I have a special request for him. Okay. I I do I do lots"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:28", "text": "of meditation and I'm taking a small group to meditate right by the ocean."}, {"start": "00:45:28", "end": "00:45:34", "text": "were were right on the sea and uh you know it's a shot in the dark"}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:39", "text": "but if he could put a word in and maybe you know hopefully have something show"}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "up. No, this doesn't work like ordering off a menu at a restaurant"}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "and so I never ask them any questions. I get a lot of them as you can imagine and"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:02", "text": "and I can only tell you personally that I think you're going to experience something very special in that"}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:09", "text": "meditation but uh when you start the meditation you"}, {"start": "00:46:09", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "need to make a mental projection of your intention."}, {"start": "00:46:15", "end": "00:46:21", "text": "There are lots of sightings all around the Kadakkes and Roses area and they are"}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "somewhat connected to that mountain. I can tell you there's uh a underground"}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:32", "text": "ship base in Rosas Bay."}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "So, although we didn't get much from our trip to the radar base, Jesse and I over the course of the next few nights got on"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:46", "text": "top of the roof of the house we were staying at and decided to meditate for several hours."}, {"start": "00:46:46", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "Well, here's what we saw. That's the radar base right there."}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:47:04", "text": "Nothing much going on over the radar base. Clouds are coming in though."}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:14", "text": "Oh, just caught a little shooting star or something go by."}, {"start": "00:47:19", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "There's a satellite."}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:30", "text": "Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That thing"}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:36", "text": "that that blue thing. No. What? There's no doubt in my mind that"}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "something happened in 1971. There are too many witnesses, too many"}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "locals that have reported sightings. There are military personnel who in"}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:53", "text": "different bases came face to face with something that they shot at in the middle of the night."}, {"start": "00:47:53", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "I as an investigator and as someone who's looking into this can't ignore those facts. Now, as far as his"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "subsequent meetings with this being called Shahim go. That's something you'll have to decide for yourself. Now,"}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "this wouldn't be the first time that we've heard of these sort of quote unquote space brothers come down with a"}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:17", "text": "message for us. I mean, we've had many witnesses report the exact same beings dressed in the exact same clothes from"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:23", "text": "Jesse Rosenberg to Travis Walton and so many more. Were the 1960s to late 1980s"}, {"start": "00:48:23", "end": "00:48:30", "text": "just a pocket where these blondhaired, blue-eyed, tall human beings from space"}, {"start": "00:48:30", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "came down to Earth to contact us and to warn us of a dreadful existence, or was"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:42", "text": "this some type of militarized operational SCOP? I think there are some parts of this story that require further"}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:49", "text": "investigation and definitely have captivated my interest. He describes the craft similar to many other glowing"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:56", "text": "discs at that time, performing the same type of maneuvers in the same area with beings that were also reported"}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "similarly in that area. I just it's really hard to say, but compelling"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "nonetheless. And I invite you to check out his work. I'll leave the links below if you're interested. Currently, they only exist in Spanish. I want to take a"}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:14", "text": "second to thank you guys for watching. Also, thank you to Hada, who is an operative over at Area 52, who helped me"}, {"start": "00:49:14", "end": "00:49:21", "text": "translate my conversation with Jesus in real time. Thank you so much. That was a great help. Also, thank you to our Area"}, {"start": "00:49:21", "end": "00:49:27", "text": "52 investigators. And lastly, thank you to Jesus Hafre Mia for opening up and"}, {"start": "00:49:27", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "sharing your story with us on this channel. It is truly appreciated, and I"}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:38", "text": "wish you nothing but the best. You should know that the reason I agreed to do this interview with you is because"}, {"start": "00:49:38", "end": "00:49:43", "text": "it's become clear to me that there's a connection, a deep bond from the past"}, {"start": "00:49:43", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "with you. And so,"}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "uh, so I found myself able to share"}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:50:03", "text": "uh things with you that I probably wouldn't tell many other people."}, {"start": "00:50:03", "end": "00:50:07", "text": "Have a good one. Peace and love."}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "You know, I remember Professor John Mack sitting at my house when he had the sample in his hand. Never handled it. It"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "was in the bag. It was always in the bag. It never was taken out of the bag. No one ever touched it. And I remember"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "him holding it and actually looking at me in the eyes and saying, \"I truly"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "believe this is an alien hair.\""}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "And um eventually I pushed away and as I pushed away that's when I looked and I got the whole image of her and there was"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "this blonde female milky white skin. As I'm looking at her hair it didn't look"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "like human hair. Like you it's human hair is a bit thicker. It you know it"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "fills the hair. This thing looked see-through almost like fishing line. the shape of her head. She had huge"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "cheekbones, perfect nose because her face was a little bit longer. So, it suited her. Her lips were normal, normal"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "mouth, normal lips. Her eyes, the eyes caught my attention, but her eyes looked, you know, two to three"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "times bigger than a human eyes. And the most beautifulest blue I have ever seen."}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "When she pushed me towards her breast the third time and I'm trying to push away, trying to push away, I couldn't do"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "it. I panicked. I couldn't breathe. I was struggling to breathe. I took a like I pinched with both"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "of my teeth. I just sort of pinched her skin and I did feel something hit the back of my throat. It was like I had"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "just drank acid and it was burning the back of my throat so bad. But I looked at her and she was in complete shock."}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "That's why her eyes opened up so wide. I just started coughing and I'm looking down. I'm coughing my guts like it was"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "just burning me. I felt them talking and it was telepathic. This isn't like the"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "last time. He's done this wrong. I saw two hairs. I decided I'm going to go get"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "a plastic bag, stick the two hairs in there. What comes from this is DNA testing."}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "That's right. And this is the uh invisible college. That's right. Bill contacted me and he said, \"Mate, we've got some results here"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "that aren't adding up. It's zero in the population. It's one in billions. This is probably the most"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "important case.\" Um, and if we can figure that out, I mean, I I think that's for me one step closer to the"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "whole world waking up to this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "Uh, hello. This is James from Sacramento, California. Uh, when I was 9"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "years old, I was out front of my house with my dad and my little brother."}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "We were staring up at the stars and my dad was, I don't know, teaching us some dad lesson. And um as we're sitting"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "there watching the stars, we saw what looked like a meteorite, a trail, a white light shoot across the sky"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "about 300 ft above us. And then it stopped dead in its tracks,"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "sat there for a second, expanded, lit up the entire neighborhood like a uh atom"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "bomb, and then disappeared. Um, but I remember"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "as a kid right after that having several dreams of being operated on by these"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "tall white doctors"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "back in the skiff with Mr. Curry Peter where we left off yesterday. we were"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "just coming up on like the juiciest stuff in my opinion uh in the world of"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "eupfology uh in the world of UFOs and aliens and and possible"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "you know NHI encounters. So, we left off, we talked about the 1988 stuff. Um,"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "talked about, you know, your family having witnessed that, uh, telling you"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "only later, uh, in 2004, I think it was. That's right. And then,"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "but in 1992, four years later, something else would happen. something"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "entirely different as far as UFO or alien encounters are concerned in"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "general from what we gather. Um obviously there's some similar cases that have uh you know that people have"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "come to you with and we'll get into that as well but this is completely new. Um"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "can you can you talk us through what exactly happens and how this comes about? Sure. Um 1992"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "uh started off being a terrible year for my family. Um in March of 1992, my"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "eldest brother, his wife was uh murdered. It was a murder suicide. So yeah, it shocked us to the core and"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "um it was hard to deal with um with a lot of you know people making accusations and so on and um trying to"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "blame the family for it when it was clear and cut what happened you know that a guy killed her and killed"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "himself. Um that was uh March and um then"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "couple of months later Vivian actually sorry it was in February Valentine's Day"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "and um we were sitting in the car. She was going on holidays for 2 weeks. She"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "was going to go a week ahead of me and then I was going to follow her and meet her in Queensland to follow it a week later. So we were sitting in the car"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "discussing it. I had my back to the door, to the driver's door, just leaning against it. She was sitting in the"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "passenger seat and had her back to the door as well. So, we're facing each other, just talking. And just out of the"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "blue, something just said to me, \"Look up in the sky.\" And I just had the window open. So, I just leaned my head"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "back and just had a look up in the sky. And I couldn't believe what I saw. It was this round like uh I'd say softball"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "or baseball size light just a an a sphere"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "bright white like ice white um light and it was moving from north um uh to south"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "and headed over the southern cross and as soon as it got to the top of top star in the southern cross it stopped like it"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "was moving at a rapid speed and then it just stopped on a dime. I couldn't believe it stopped so quick and it"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "hovered there for a few seconds and then what we I said to her, \"You got to have"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "a look at this.\" So, we stepped out of the car and we were watching this and I had a a cardboard in the back seat. So,"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "I got it and folded it up and sort of, you know, made a little telescope so I can zoom,"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "you know, just for focus on the on that light source. And um while it was"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "sitting there, it shot a beam of light and it was like a thick white beam of"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "light and then it appeared at two places at once and it disappeared from point A"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "and then it was at point B shot a beam of light down to another star. This is all on the southern cross. And um it"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "would do that and it appear disappear from the point of origin and then where"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "it appeared um where it sort of it would shoot this beam of light and appear at two places and then disappear from the"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "point of origin. And it did this erratically. It wasn't just like a you know slow pattern. It was very quick and"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "then you know 180\u00b0 it was making 90\u00b0 turn. It was just all over the place,"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "but always in a triangular formation, back and forth, back and forth. There was no pattern to it. And it just it"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "blew us away. Like we were looking at something. I've never seen any jet,"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "plane, any technology that we the military has. Was this during the day? Uh, no. This is 8:20 in at night"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "as in the evening. Okay. Yeah. 8:20 at night. The sky is pretty dark. So, it's just like It was dark. Yeah. Yeah. And um you know"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "we stood there watching this and as we're watching it she said to me it looks like a war with the stars"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "cuz she thought it's firing something you know and I said to her I know it looks like it's searching for something"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "cuz I assumed well I thought it was a beam of light and it's searching but"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "then later on I realized that it was moving so quickly but traveling on that beam of light and appearing at two"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "places at once and always disappearing appearing but it was you could see it at two places, then it disappear and then"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "shoot another beam of light, it'll be in two places again. And um we watched it I"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "reckon about two maybe 3 minutes. That's a long time watching this thing. And um then it shot back up to the"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "original point above the top star and um hovered there for about 10 seconds and"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "then it just shot straight up into the sky like you couldn't even see it. It just so quick. And um we're sitting"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "there just, you know, trying to compl and we actually said to each other,"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "\"Tomorrow we're buying a newspaper. We're going to listen to the radio station because everybody talks about it.\""}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "Oh, we thought half of Sydney would had to like what we saw. Mhm. It was better than any any fireworks"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "display on New Year's Eve or anything. And this is prior to recreational drones. Like people have to understand"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "this is 1992. Um you weren't people weren't just flying around drones like they are today. never saw a drone back then and"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "until recently seen drones and I do did work at the opera house for a while and they have drone shows there so"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "you know yeah it was nothing like a drone could not do what that thing was doing and um so the next day we um anticipated"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "you know we're going to see it in the papers we're going to see it on the news on the radio nothing"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "nothing absolutely nothing I cannot believe how that display didn't and you know what maybe people did see it, but"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "they just didn't report it. I mean, we didn't report it to anybody either. Yeah, there's a big chance that other people saw that, too. If it was"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "there has had to be, but I thought they'd at least call a local newspaper. That was February 1992. And um I think"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "that played a big role in her belief in, you know, what's about to happen."}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. I think that helped her take it on board a lot easier. So, that was February and what happened to you was in July, correct?"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And um as I said March my sister-in-law"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "had we had that incident and um lost her and um my so my family was going through"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "a lot at the time and um Vivian and I had got married uh in n 190"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "and then um in '92. So we're in our house. We're living in our house that I live in now. There was one incident that"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "happened uh when we first moved into that place. there was some activity going on. First night that we were"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "there, the house was empty and we were going to start renovating like painting the place and so we could move in 2"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "weeks later. And the first night we were in there, we're sitting down um on the on the floor just sitting at the cup. We"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "had no furniture, nothing. And we had a milk crate with again that television that I had that Shiva"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "television, same television. I don't know if that's causing things, but anyway, we had the"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "TV on. We had a box of pizza and we were just having something to eat and we're talking and we heard these footsteps"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "walk from the back of the house directly towards where we were. Mhm. And I'm talking heavy footsteps. As it"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "got to where we were, it was an arch that led to another room. As it got there, it stopped. And when I say heavy"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "footsteps, I mean boots, you know, heavy from it was so loud you couldn't deny it. And she looked at me and said, \"Oh"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "my god.\" Because the house had been empty for a couple of weeks. Yeah. She didn't think someone's in here. We thought someone was squatting in"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "there or had snuck in there. And she's like, \"Oh my god, Peter, someone's in the house.\" As it was heading, the footsteps were heading towards us. And"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "when we heard him right in front of us, we should have seen something. We didn't see anything. And then the footsteps"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "stopped and we both had this weird feeling about it. Um, and that reminded me of what"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "happened in ' 88 at my parents house. Yeah. Something we we didn't cover yesterday, actually. It might be good to"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "just cover this before we get into the hair uh stuff. But in 1988, you had a you had"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "a sighting. Well, what it was, I believe, my parents' house Mhm."}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "there was a portal of some kind around there and that's why we had a lot of activity and um"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "in Sydney. Yeah. in Sydney um for about 2 weeks before my experience in ' 88 1988"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "um we'd hear soldiers walking down the like marching not walking marching and"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "in sync and heavy heavy footsteps um it sounded like there was dozens of"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "them you know not just four or five sounded like a whole platoon marching down our driveway and had I been the"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "only one to hear it I would have thought maybe you know I'm influenced by something or whatever. Um, but my"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "brothers who lived in the two front rooms of the house, they heard it as well and they would always walk out and"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "look down the driveway cuz they'd come down the driveway. Yeah. And um"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "I'd look out my window at the end of the driver which led to the garage. So they they couldn't you couldn't disappear"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "anywhere, you know. It was you were trapped in there basically. If anyone walked down our driveway and someone"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "walked out and looked, you'd see them. But my brothers never saw anything. And"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "my second my second oldest brother, he'd always say to me, \"Oh, it's your friends. It's your mates.\" And I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "\"Okay, let's, you know, from my past.\" And I'm like, \"Okay, let's assume it's my mates. Where do they go?\""}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "Yeah. What are they doing? Where are they going? Like, there's maybe a dozen, two dozen of them. Where do they go? How do they"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "disappear? And he couldn't answer that. And um about a week before um my the actual 88"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "experience, I was lying in my bed and I became paralyzed and as I was laying"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "down I look over me to the window above me which behind me and um now the window"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "sill was um about head height. So if you're walking in the driveway it' be about your head height. So, it's very"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "hard for someone to be standing in this window. But when I looked, I saw a figure"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "holding on to the bars and looking down at me. And as I as I looked back, I could see a"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "silhouette of something standing there looking at me. Didn't know what it was, but I couldn't move at all. I was completely paralyzed."}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "And then about a week or so later, I had that full experience in 1988."}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "And that's why when in '92, we're hearing these footsteps. It took me back to that experience in ' 88, you know,"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "having all that um you know, people marching down the driveway and so on. Anyway, um we moved into the house, we'd"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "renovated, we moved in, we were there for about 2 weeks, maybe not even 3 weeks and um she was cooking something"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "and she needed some ingredients and she asked me to run up the shop and grab some. Mhm. And um I walked out left within 2"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "minutes she heard footsteps come through the house and she thought she's in the kitchen cooking and she thought it must"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "be Peter. he's left his wallet or, you know, forgotten something and he's come back to grab it."}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "And um she turned around and walking in the lounge room again. It's"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "an arch and she's in the kitchen and there's another arch leading from the kitchen into the dining room, dining"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "room into the lounge room. And um she saw a man walk through across the"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "archway. Um and she described him like Abraham Lincoln. Weird. Like an Undertaker. M"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "she said he had a top hat, top hat, long tall top hat. He had a"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "long beard. Uh he was wearing a coat with tail coat. And as he walked, he"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "actually looked at her and that freaked her out. Yeah. And then he walked across the archway"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "towards a mirrored wall. We had these square mirrors all over the wall. I've since removed them, but as you"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "enter my house now, you go to the front door. Directly opposite you is a mirrored wall. And it's all these square"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "mirrors. it. That's how the whole lounge room back wall was. And um it walked"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "towards that that door, that wall, sorry. And anyway, I've come home maybe 10, 15 minutes later, and I walk in the"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "house and she's hanging onto the kitchen bench, claws like left marks on there,"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "shaking like you wouldn't believe, shaking, freaking out. And I was like, \"What's wrong?\" And she's like, \"Peter,"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "there's a man in the house.\" And I'm like, \"What?\" She's like, \"There's a [ __ ] man in the house. Someone just walked through the house and I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "\"Okay.\" I walked into every room. She said, \"Oh, you walked through the mirror door to towards that mirrored wall.\" And"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "um there was nowhere they someone could hide there. So I went and searched every room. She she wouldn't give in until I"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "searched every room behind the curtains, inside cupboards, wardrobes. I did a full search of the house. There was"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "nothing there. Now I've never seen anything like that there. Yeah. But she had. And um there there's a case"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "um Richard Dolan told me about while at contact in the desert last year. He was"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "we were kind of trading stories and he spoke of a case where there was this"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "girl, she was at church with her mom and like this very tall blonde couple just didn't fit in. They weren't, you know,"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "from there. They were dressed differently. They were just kind of observing and they got up and left before everyone else. And the little"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "girl runs after. It's almost like no one else could see them. And she runs after them and they head down this field and"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "at the end of the field waiting for them is this very tall man dressed in a dark"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "suit with a top hat and he looked like Lurch from the Adams family. Really? Kind of like this lanky."}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "Is that in his book? No, it's not. No, this is some This is um that little girl. She was the one who uh she was 60"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "years old when she told this story to Richard at a conference. And then she stops dead in her tracks."}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "She said, \"Then I saw a third person at the entrance of the wooded area.\" She"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "said, \"Remember Lurch from the Adams family?\" Looked just like that guy."}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "Terrifying. Very tall, like a man in black, but very tall. Kind of un gangly, ungainainely"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "tall hat and a black suit apparently. And this beautiful blonde supermodel"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "couple from Venus or Plleaides or wherever they're from walk past him into"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "the woods. Into the woods. You know, that's some of the high stranges here"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "that happens. Like, what is that? What are we looking at here? Are we looking at some type of, you know, uh, is it a a"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "ghost projection, interdimensional thing? What are we talking about? But I think you couldn't have described a more"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "terrifying, you know, character. The top hat is very disturbing for me."}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "We got to remember, um, my ex-wife, um, I mean, we're separated, but we're not"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "divorced. It's happening. It's coming to that now. Um, she's Greek Orthodox, so she doesn't"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "No. Doesn't believe in the stuff. Doesn't believe in this stuff, you know. But having a couple of experiences with me,"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "she was open-minded enough to it that Well, it's an odd thing to to lie about if you're going to lie about anything to"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "to describe Abraham Lincoln walking about. Abraham Lincoln. Yeah. Yeah. Um Yeah. So"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "we we had some this sort of activity um early on and"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "we had prior to buying that house I had bought a house with my brothers and I paid the deposit on the house"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "and I didn't like the where it was situated it was at a dead end in a dead end street right next to a school"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "and you know I I worked in different hours all different you know days nights"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "and I thought I'll never get sleep having you know school kids and then and then the parents picking them up"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "after school or dropping. You'll never get sleep. So, one day I'm driving, it was like the house called to me, you"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "know? I'm driving down this street and I see a house with a for sale sign on it out the front, but I couldn't see the"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "house. It was just covered in bush out the front. Yeah. Like high. It was It was almost like"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "fencing, but it was just out overgrown and it just covered the whole house. You couldn't see anything. So I pulled in"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "that driveway to reverse out in the truck and take off and I saw a gentleman walking out and his name he his name was"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "Peter as well. So I just said to him, um, can I have a look at the house? You"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "know, I'm interested to maybe buy. And he said, no, we're taking it off the market. I'm going to the real estate now"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "to take it off the market. And I said to him, can you give me till this afternoon? I'll bring my fiance with me."}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "If she likes it, we'll make you an offer. And uh so that afternoon I bought her and she brought her best friend with"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "her and from outside the house as soon as she saw it she said, \"Peter, this is where I want to live.\""}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "Mhm. And we had paid a deposit on a house. So I had to I had to let that go. Lost my deposit obviously. And um so"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "yeah, we ended up buying the house and it was as if it called to us, you know, like drew us to it. But um"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "comes around to um in um"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "um after my sister-in-law was murdered probably I'd say it was a month or two"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "maybe 2 months after um I had been helping a friend of mine who was my best man at my wedding. Uh we were really"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "good friends at the time. I knew him for 22 years. You know we grew up together, went to school together. He used to"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "sleep at my parents house and he lived two streets down the road from us. would always stay at my house."}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "Mhm. And I was helping him renovate his house while he was on his honeymoon. And um as"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "I was doing that um his father got people to do some building like renovations on the house. It was Oops."}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "It was a dual occupancy. So the house was stuck together. Yeah. Two houses, you know, and they were"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "working on one side, I was working on the other. And um they realized that they were in over their heads. They"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "weren't builders. They were just handymen. and they had to they took on a big task and um I don't know why but for"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "some reason I got blamed for their situation. M so I left the site for 3 days and I went back and I had a laborer"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "with me who was worked with me for a while and um as we reversed into the driveway I noticed that all my tools had"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "been used like cement mixer the everything had been used but never cleaned"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "just damaged just left everywhere and um I asked them why would they do"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "that you know and they said I'll go speak to your mate's father you know went to him I was getting sent back and forth I just said to my labor, \"Don't"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "worry. Load everything up. We're leaving. I'm not going to finish the job.\" All I had to do was the front fence."}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "I said, \"I'll wait till my mate comes back and I'll do it then. I don't want to do it while these guys are here.\""}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "And they said, \"No, no, no. You need to leave them here. We need to use them.\" And I was like, \"You use them, you abuse them, and you you want me to leave"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "them?\" Yeah. Hadn't even finished the word like, \"You want me to leave him?\" And there was a guy, one of them was washing his hands"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "with and the tools, grabbed a knife and threw it at me. Yeah. I was about"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "probably five 6 m away from him and the knife wedged in my chest stuck in my chest. So"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "I'm looking at this knife sticking in my chest and didn't even think I pulled it out and I threw it on the ground and he"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "came at me with a a shovel. I couldn't even understand why. I didn't even know why this was happening. Like how much"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "anger do you have to take it out on someone that had nothing to do with it? Yeah. Was this guy John Wick? What's the"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "why? Who throws a knife at anyone? That's That's insane. Exactly. And um I mean it could have hit me in"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "the face, in the head, in the heart. But in the heart. Look how close he hit me right there."}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "And um he run at me with a small uh shorter shovel and swung it at me. I"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "blocked it and he dropped it and ran. And from behind, I didn't even see it coming. It's like someone behind me now"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "as I'm talking to you, hit me on the top of the head with a shovel. long longer shovel and hit me sharp edge, not flat."}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "Oh my god, mate. Anytime I see a movie now and someone gets hit with a shovel, I don't want to I'd cringe, you know. It still"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "gets me now, of course. And um I got hit the first time and then I got hit the second time. So I had a I"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "can show you the scale. I've got a picture of the injury. And um the third one I turned around, I didn't know where"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "it was coming from. And I seen that shovel coming at me again. and I blocked it with my right hand and fractured my"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "thumb. And um he dropped the shovel and my my knees went I had no I couldn't"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "even stand up. So I grabbed onto the guy as we were struggling. I didn't even throw a punch. I just grabbed"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "and as I grabbed him, my knees went and he pulled my hair and opened up my cut even more and it's just blood just shot"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "out like just went everywhere. Oh my god. Yeah. And um"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "as I'm holding him, I don't know where he got it from, but he had a bottle and he smashed it against the wall and just"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "went whack whack whack three times up and across my arm and that's where I got these scars from. Um so my the laborer,"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "the guy that was with me, he jumped in and separated us and I dropped I passed out. Yeah. Um, when I came to uh I was in an"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "ambulance and I was in the back of an ambulance and it was two females, one driving, one in the back with me and I could I was in"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "and out of consciousness so I could hear them talking at times and I'd hear something like what a shame a young guy,"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "you know, and his a hairline away from death. And I'm like, [ __ ] you know, that's you. Yeah. I didn't realize how bad it was."}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "Mhm. And I got taken to hospital and two female detectives went to my wife's work"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "and picked her up and she thought I was dead. She thought why would why would detectives two females"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "to comfort her? And all the way in the car she was saying, \"My husband's dead, isn't he?\" And I was saying, \"Look, he's badly"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "injured. We don't know.\" You know, so we're just going to go to the hospital and they'll fill you in on what's going on. So she thought 100% like he's dead."}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "And when she got there, she walked in and saw that half my head was shaved and they had already stitched me up and so"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "on. And um that"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "it damaged us both, you know. I was out of work for 3 years and I felt so bad for her because she was paying the"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "mortgage on her own. Yeah. And we struggled for 3 years, you know. M and it went to court and in court the"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "police originally charged them with um grievous bodily harm which got reduced to bodily harm which is a whole"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "different charge. Yeah. But also attempted murder. It should have been attempted murder 100%. Yeah. I I reckon if I did that to"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "someone I'd still be in jail now. Sure. Yeah. And um anyway went to court. The guy who"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "threw the knife at me got a 12 months um good behavior bond. And the guy who did"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "most of the damage, um, although I had a witness who they bri they tried to bribe"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "him with $5,000 not to say anything. And he said that in court. He said they offered me $5,000 not to give evidence."}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "But the magistrate for some reason ruled that I couldn't have seen that he who"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "hit me, but I did when I turned around. And um, he walked free. No way."}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "But it cost them a lot of money. because you know and these are the sort of people that"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "you could take their blood and they wouldn't care. Take a dollar off them and they will freak out. You know, money"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "meant to them more than life. Yeah. So, in a way, you know, I was happy that it cost them around $100,000 out of"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "their pocket cuz I had to pay my legal expenses as well. Mhm. Um I I didn't get any financial any fin"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "nothing. I didn't get any benefit out of it whatsoever. they would, you know, even if I went to sue them um civily in"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "that, it would have been a battle. I would have it probably cost me more. You know how we chase down the hidden"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "and unexplained on this channel? Well, there's something else hiding in plain sight. Your personal data. Your phone number,"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "home address, even your family's names are scattered across hundreds of websites right now. That information is"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "being collected, sold, and traded by data brokers without your consent. And it's exactly how scammers, spammers, and"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "hackers find you. Manually removing that data would take hundreds of hours, and even then, it'll reappear. That's why I"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "use Incogn. It's like hiring a digital cleanup crew that works in the shadows to erase your footprint. Here's how it"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "works. Number one, create an account. Share only the bare minimum of info to locate your profiles. Number two,"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "authorize Incogn to act on your behalf. And number three, that's it. They'll automatically contact hundreds of data"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "brokers, deleting your information and keeping it gone with regular follow-ups. It's risk-free for 30 days, and you can"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "cancel anytime. Go to incogn.com/eria52 and use code area52 for 60% off annual"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "plans because the truth is they can't harm you, they can't find you."}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "So anyway, I had so I had head injuries and um I was recovering and I was on"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "medication and doctors put me on Prozac. Now I didn't know what Prozac was, but"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "one day for some reason I saw an article about Lady Diana, Princess Diana and how"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "she used she was put on Prozac and she was saying she had bad side effects and"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "you know she didn't like it. And then I was talking to my brother-in-law, my um wife's brother."}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "Yeah. And he said that he was on it as well. And he said, \"Oh, you know, it it does"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "things to me. I just don't like it.\" So, I had taken one tablet of Prozac and I stopped taking it. I didn't even tell my"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "doctor. I just had the the bottle. It was sitting in the drawer for years. It might still be in a drawer somewhere."}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "You know, I'd love to find it because it'll show that I only took the one tablet out of there, you know."}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "But, um, yeah. So, I'm I'm home a lot of the time and I'm"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "I'm not the type of person who wants to stay home for 3 years, you know, of course, but um I was struggling through it,"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "battling through it and um I was on painkiller medication. Um"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "and you know, people can say, \"Oh, it's a medication, but it wasn't strong medication like panadine fought.\""}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "Yeah. Codine. Yeah. Yeah. That was probably the strongest thing um that I was taking at the time. And the worst side effect I"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "got from it was nausea. Pardon me. Constipation wasn't anything. That was probably it, you know. No nausea,"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "nothing. Anyway, um we get to we get to July 12th of July um"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "92. And I would drive my wife to the station"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "every morning, a train station. She'd catch a train to work and then I'd pick her up in the or in the evening. And um"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "this particular uh morning um we got in the car and I wasn't"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "feeling sick at all. I was feeling fine. And we got in the car and as I was driving away from the house, the further"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "I got I'd say after about 20 30 m away from my house, yeah,"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "I started to feel funny like something wasn't right. And um the further we got,"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "the sicker I felt, but not headsick, you know, not pain in my head or anything."}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "It was more like I wanted to vomit. And um so I opened the car door as I'm"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "driving and I got sick and it was just fluoride yellow."}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "It was like bright yellow and at times it' be green mixed with green but fluo"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "colors, you know, like bright. Yeah. And I thought I didn't eat or drink anything that would cause this,"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "you know. But the further I got from home and closer we got to the railway station to the train station, I'd pull"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "up more regular. Like I was pulling up say every 50 m and now I'm pulling up every 10 m. And I was like a lot of"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "liquid was coming out of my body. I don't know where it came from. Like you would have to drink liters and liters"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "and liters to to to vomit so much. And um so yeah, she was she was um a bit"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "concerned that she was going to work and I'm getting this sick and she wasn't going to be with me. So she just said,"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "\"Keep in touch with me all day. Let me know what goes on.\" You know, so I dropped her off at the railway station and on the way back home,"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "um I was still pulling up and, you know, getting sick. Open the door, get sick, close the door, drive a few meters, open"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "the door, get sick. But I noticed the closer I got back to home, the less I"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "felt sick. and then I that towards the end I didn't have to stop and you know vomit."}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "So got home um pulled up in the driveway, walked up the steps, opened"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "the door, walked in and um instantly because I had been vomiting now I"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "thought I I'll just go back to bed you know and um it was July so it was cold."}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "I had a quilt and I got back into bed and threw I I was wearing a sloppy joe"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:43", "text": "like a tracksuit almost you know with a sloppy Joe and pants and um I laid back in bed and put the"}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "quilt over me and within this is at 7 10 7 in the morning. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "So it was early. People a lot of people when they talk about my case they say it was at night he was asleep and this"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "happened. No, I was fully awake. I had just driven out of the house, dropped her off, came back home"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "fully aware, awake, you know, but justid. Yeah. And I thought I'll just go and lie down and rest up a bit."}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "And as I laid down, within I'd say less than 5 minutes, I I felt like something"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "jumped on the bed and I felt an indentation on the mattress and I"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "thought, \"Oh, you know, [ __ ] Is that a dog? Is it a a cat?\" That's what I was thinking. But then we didn't have pets"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "at the time. So the only thing I thought of was maybe when I opened the front door to walk in,"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "you let something in some maybe a dog came in or a dog I'd probably noticed, but maybe a cat snuck"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "in. That's that's my thought process at the time. And um as I sat up, I realized that I"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "wasn't under the quilt. I was on top of the the covers. And um as I went to sit"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "up, this is where it gets a little bit confusing for me"}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "because it's hard to explain, but at the same time it happened. So I'm going to talk about it. Someone says, \"Oh, I I"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "was interested till he talked about this astral thing and I lost, you know, it"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "happened. As I'm sitting up, I saw my astral body, my soul, whatever you want"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "to call it. I saw it come out of me and I could see it was like a see-through uh"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "transparent image of me and it sort of was in stages. It was like bang bang"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "bang bang bang bang and sat upright. And as I'm looking at this, I can see an"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "image of me and then I can see an image of a female straddling me. And I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "what the, you know, what am I looking at? And I could see through me, through that image of me, I could see her. And"}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "I'm like, what the hell? And then as I sat up, my body and my astral body, my soul became one again. And as soon as"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "that happened, she cuped the she put her hands like that behind my head and um"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "pulled my head towards her breast, her left breast and um I pushed away. I had"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "put my hands against her body and I pushed away. She pushed me back a second time, pulled me closer and held me"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "tighter. Can you describe right now what this being, what this person looked like"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "that was on your bed with you? Okay. Um, I didn't know that like when I"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "was trying to get that I I wasn't concentrating on her head. I was just focused on trying to push away from her"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "breast cuz I'm claustrophobic at the best of times and I couldn't breathe when she buried my face into her. So"}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "when I pushed away from her the third time, I struggled like I had my hands"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:45", "text": "against her body, but I couldn't push away. She was so strong. Yeah. And um eventually I pushed away. And as"}, {"start": "00:36:45", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "I pushed away, that's when I looked and I got the whole image of her and there was this blonde female um"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "milky white skin like she's never seen been in the sun. And that's similar to what my mom saw when I was 22 days old."}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "the milky white skin. Yeah. Um male. And um"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "she had it it was thick hair, but it was wispy."}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "It was very thin looking, you know. And as I'm looking at her hair, it didn't look like human hair. Like you it's"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "human hair is a bit thicker. It, you know, it fills the hair. This thing looked see-through almost like fishing"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "line. And um her"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "like the shape of her head. She had huge cheekbones. And at the time I I sort of"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "remember Sher, the singer Sher, you know, she's got longer face. She's got the big cheekbones cheekbones."}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "And that's what I, you know, I said she looked like close enough to Sher's face,"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:55", "text": "you know, like with the features, but not dark like her. Um, her perfect nose,"}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "like perfection, a little bit longer. It was it was longer than a human nose, but"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "it wasn't a big nose at all. It just shooted because her face was a little bit longer, so it suited her. Um, her"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "lips were normal. Normal mouth, normal lips. Um, her eyes, the eyes caught my attention. That's"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "what blew me away. her eyes. Um, I don't know if she because when I pushed away from her, she was shocked and she had"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "that, you know, expression on her face where her eyes opened up a bit more, but her eyes looked, you know, two to three"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "times bigger than her human eyes and the most beautifulst blue I have ever seen."}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "Um, my partner now, she keeps trying to find the blues and she's come close, but"}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:44", "text": "not not exactly. But it was just Yeah, the eyes took me. It just I couldn't"}, {"start": "00:38:44", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "believe the color of her eyes and like she had her pupils were blue and then it faded into a lighter blue where they"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "should be white. And um so I'm looking at this and I'm"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:01", "text": "thinking how did you get into my room? Like how did you get in here? Who are you know? Where are you from? Who are"}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "you? And she's she's naked. Completely naked. And and um you describe I think in the book like much taller than you it would"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "seem. She she was Yeah. Although she was sitting on her calves, so to speak, or like kind of straddling you,"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "straddling me like a kneeling almost sitting on her legs type. And when she pulled me towards her breast,"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:25", "text": "Yeah. she had easily a head over you. Easily. Yeah. A head over me. And um"}, {"start": "00:39:25", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "so maybe 7t tall, I'd say. So, yeah, I'd say so. And"}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "perfect body. Yeah. Um some people make fun of my description of that she had, you know,"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "really um well proportioned breasts. Yeah. and where she came from. Um, I"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "didn't use this term. Um, Bill Chalker and others did. Um, it's as if there was"}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "no gravity where she lived, right? I see. And her breasts weren't droopy or lower. They were jetting out."}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "And I hate doing this because someone's going, \"Oh, you know, he did this with obviously people are going to, you know,"}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:05", "text": "extrapolate anything they want from this.\" But, you know, being honest about what that"}, {"start": "00:40:05", "end": "00:40:12", "text": "uh description is, I think provides the best um, you know, data for the rest of us. Yeah. I'm not going to change my story"}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "and what I saw to to make people, you know, but um Yeah. And as I'm looking at her"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "um I look down at I'm looking down at her body and I noticed that she didn't have a belly button and"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "well, that freaked me out a bit. Yeah. I was like, well, I I didn't know anything about cloning at the time, and Dolly the"}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "sheep hadn't been cloned by that stage. Um, the Raians were claiming that they"}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:42", "text": "were going to clone a baby and ended up say they said they did it eventually. Um, that all came just after and I"}, {"start": "00:40:42", "end": "00:40:47", "text": "didn't know much about cloning or what a clone would look like. But um when a"}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "panel of researchers um 12 of them actually sat down with me for about 6 hours and questioned you know the hell"}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "out of the whole thing and um I remember saying to them they didn't she didn't"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "have a belly button and they said what do you mean like I said I don't know but whoever made them made them for a reason"}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "and I was suggesting that they made them to have yeah some type of intercourse or Yeah."}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:19", "text": "Well to create Yeah. to create life or like a training doll or something or"}, {"start": "00:41:19", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "Yeah. Well, this is when it gets um even more strange. Well, the training, you know, someone"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "showing something or touching someone. So, I'm looking down. I see she's got no belly button. And um I notice on the"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "other on the right side of the bed, but towards the corner of the bed, like at the end of the bed, was an Asianlook"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "female. And um she was sitting, you know how like in the school photo how you'd"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "take a photo and you'd have your hands on your knees like on like that and on top of your knees. She was sitting on"}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "her calves with her legs folded under her and she had her hands like that. Um"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:05", "text": "black hair, Paige boy style haircut, dark hair, Asian looking. Um, but in the"}, {"start": "00:42:05", "end": "00:42:11", "text": "eyes I'm mostly saw blacked, but I I saw a little bit of white on the edges."}, {"start": "00:42:11", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "Yeah. Giant pupils. Giant. Yeah. Sort of iris and pupils. Yeah. Black. And um, one had the blonde one had blue,"}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "bright blue. And this one had dark eyes. And um, she just looked like she was in"}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:30", "text": "a trance. Like not tall. No. No. Um, not not as tall as normal."}, {"start": "00:42:30", "end": "00:42:36", "text": "Yeah. Not as tall as the blonde. And um when she the way she was sitting down um"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:44", "text": "her skin tone was dark dark skin a lot darker than the other one. Obviously the other one I don't think was had been in"}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "the sun at all. And um the way she was sitting her her"}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:56", "text": "stomach looked like she might have been pregnant or she might have been a bit belly a little bit of not too much but there"}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "was a bit of a belly there and I don't know why I thought oh she looks pregnant. It just could have been that"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "she had a little bit of, you know, weight on her and um she was just like in a trance"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:15", "text": "just watching looking at the blonde female and watching what's going on. I don't know if she was the teacher or"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:23", "text": "if she was the student. Someone was showing someone how to do something. You had that feeling. Yeah. Yeah. And um"}, {"start": "00:43:23", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "so I I'm I'm I'm sitting there and when she when"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "she pushed me towards her breast the third time and I'm trying to push away trying to push away I couldn't do it and"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:44", "text": "my face is buried in her breast. So my defensive action and people have a go at"}, {"start": "00:43:44", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "me about this but they don't realize um I'm claustrophobic. I get my face gets"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:55", "text": "buried in her breast. I'm trying to push away from her. I couldn't I panicked. I couldn't breathe. I was struggling to"}, {"start": "00:43:55", "end": "00:44:02", "text": "breathe. So, I didn't take a bite. You know, people say, \"Oh, what type of person is he took?\" I didn't take a bite. I took a"}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:09", "text": "like I pinched with both with my teeth. I just sort of pinched her skin. And I did feel something hit the back of my"}, {"start": "00:44:09", "end": "00:44:14", "text": "throat. And as soon as it hit the back of my throat and I thought it might have been a bit of flesh. As soon as it hit"}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "the back of my throat, it was like I had just drank acid and it was burning the back of my throat so bad. And um but I"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:29", "text": "looked at her and she was in complete shock. That's why her eyes opened up so wide. And she instantly looked at the"}, {"start": "00:44:29", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "other one and I'm looking at her breast and I can see there's no blood, there's no cut, there's no damage, nothing at"}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:41", "text": "all. And sometimes I think I was given something. It might have been a tablet"}, {"start": "00:44:41", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "or something because at the end of it all, I had a erection for 6 hours and it was the most"}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:53", "text": "painful erection I've ever had. 6 hours of it. I"}, {"start": "00:44:53", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "don't know if anyone's been through it before, but it is painful. And um so yeah, I um swallow this thing and I"}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:09", "text": "couldn't I just started coughing and I'm looking down. I'm coughing my guts like it was just burning me. And um as I"}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:15", "text": "looked back up at them, the blonde one looks at the Asian and there was I"}, {"start": "00:45:15", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "didn't hear them talking. I felt them talking and it was telepathic and it was"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "he's done this something's gone wrong. He's done this wrong. This isn't like the last time. He's done me this wrong."}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "Um and I'm like she's like something's gone wrong. She kept repeating that and I'm like again, you know, it's like this"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:40", "text": "thing of what [ __ ] last time. Like I keep hearing this as if it's happened before, but I had no memory of anything"}, {"start": "00:45:40", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "happening with these females before. So yeah, um"}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:51", "text": "there was telepathic communication between them and then it was the blonde"}, {"start": "00:45:51", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "communicated directly with me and it was very rapid, very quick, but I understood"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:03", "text": "everything she said and it was in English like it wasn't some language that I couldn't understand."}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "This is actual words. No, this is telepathy. This is, you know, it's got"}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "her thinking and I can tell what she's thinking. Okay. And it was things like"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:24", "text": "basically telling me that um my marriage or my family life um would"}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:31", "text": "end sometime in the future that I wouldn't be married, you know, to the same person forever. And I knew that"}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "it'd be around 2015 2016 and there was a even a time given to me"}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:44", "text": "where this is 1992 and she said in 25 years she I got I got this thing where"}, {"start": "00:46:44", "end": "00:46:52", "text": "information was coming that there are portals all around the world and in in the next 20 to 25 years they'll start"}, {"start": "00:46:52", "end": "00:46:58", "text": "activating and coming to life and that we'll see beings and creatures come to"}, {"start": "00:46:58", "end": "00:47:04", "text": "our side that we'd never seen before. And um so that would put it around 2017."}, {"start": "00:47:04", "end": "00:47:10", "text": "2017. And my breakup in my marriage was December 2016. Wow."}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:15", "text": "So couple of weeks. It was actually second week in in December just before Christmas."}, {"start": "00:47:15", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "Were you receiving this on purpose or was this just like"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:27", "text": "sort of mirror image of like your timeline that you were like getting or or were you like was she purposely giving you information? Do you think"}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:33", "text": "I think it's purposely giving me information? Yeah. Well, yeah. And um what purpose do you think?"}, {"start": "00:47:33", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "I think to prepare me for it. Oh, interesting. I think just to Yeah. So, but as she's talking to me and she's saying to me,"}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "you know, your marriage or your family life will end at this time. And"}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "um she actually pointed to to her stomach. She touched her stomach and then went"}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:48:00", "text": "like that, pointed to the sky. M and I didn't read much into it at the time, but then later on when I'm"}, {"start": "00:48:00", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "thinking about it, I thought, oh, she talking about, you know, carrying a child and"}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "it's going to be born up there. And that's the impression I was getting."}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:18", "text": "And um so I'll get to something else later that happened about 14 years later"}, {"start": "00:48:18", "end": "00:48:25", "text": "and I saw a child that and this is where my kids have a bit of an issue with"}, {"start": "00:48:25", "end": "00:48:30", "text": "um anyway. Um so yeah, she touches her stomach and points up and I get this"}, {"start": "00:48:30", "end": "00:48:37", "text": "coughing fit again like you know acid down my throat. So I start coughing and I look down and when I look back up they"}, {"start": "00:48:37", "end": "00:48:43", "text": "were gone vanished. So, I got out of bed and I went into the kitchen. I grabbed"}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:50", "text": "some Lebanese bread, tried to eat it, thinking it'll, you know, push it down. Um, cuz it felt like it was stuck in my"}, {"start": "00:48:50", "end": "00:48:56", "text": "just in my throat and I couldn't get it to come down. So, I had some bread and then I grabbed some water and as soon as"}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "the water hit the back of my throat, it just inflamed it. It was like"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "fire just exploded in my in my throat. And um I had the urge to go use the"}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "bathroom to pee. And as I walked in the bathroom um I mean"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:23", "text": "men know when you're about to pee you get build up and then you release. As soon as I felt that buildup I felt"}, {"start": "00:49:23", "end": "00:49:29", "text": "like my private part, my penis had been slashed or phrases like the pain. I was"}, {"start": "00:49:29", "end": "00:49:37", "text": "it was excruciating pain. And I ended up, you know, I did the pee and then"}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:44", "text": "I'm in so much pain I had to see what's going on. I thought it was actually like cut almost like a razor or something had"}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "cut me. And when I looked I saw two hairs. Um, one was in an S shape and one"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:57", "text": "was sort of half wrapped around, but they were embedded into my my skin. And"}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:04", "text": "when I say embedded, it's like you stick your nail in your in your skin and you get that indentation."}, {"start": "00:50:04", "end": "00:50:09", "text": "And I thought, okay, I'm going to take them off and I'm going to put them in a bag cuz I know exactly where they came"}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "from. That wasn't from my partner, my wife at the time. Yeah. Um I knew where they came from."}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:22", "text": "Yeah. And as I was trying to take them off, it was the most excruciating pain I ever"}, {"start": "00:50:22", "end": "00:50:29", "text": "been through. I I had tears running down my eyes. I was crying as I was trying to peel them off. It was so painful and it"}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:34", "text": "actually left um the shape of of how they were on there. And people have"}, {"start": "00:50:34", "end": "00:50:40", "text": "asked me, \"Oh, why didn't you take a photo?\" And I'm like, \"That's the last thing on my mind or anyone's mind"}, {"start": "00:50:40", "end": "00:50:45", "text": "to go like it would might have been it would have been good evidence to have the hair and then show exactly"}, {"start": "00:50:45", "end": "00:50:50", "text": "where I was.\" But that's a bit private. That's a bit personal. And if I took that photo, I wouldn't show it"}, {"start": "00:50:50", "end": "00:50:59", "text": "to too many people, you know? It probably be just for my Yep. benefit. But um so yeah, I um I decided"}, {"start": "00:50:59", "end": "00:51:06", "text": "I'm going to go get a plastic bag, stick the two hairs in there, folded it over, taped it, and I put a sticker on there."}, {"start": "00:51:06", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "And I wrote the date, the time, two females, one blonde, one Asian. Just put, you know, just simple stuff on"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:19", "text": "there just to remind me. And um because of the scratchy throat,"}, {"start": "00:51:19", "end": "00:51:24", "text": "I'd have these coughing fits. Yeah. And I'd cough for like 10, 15, 20"}, {"start": "00:51:24", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "minutes straight every time. Like I'd be relieved when I wasn't coughing, you know? I'd have this burning but not"}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:36", "text": "coughing. I'd be like, \"Oh, thank God.\" You know, I can relax. But then when I I would just it' be a"}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:42", "text": "little cough and it just build into a massive cough. Yeah. And the insides, my insides, like my"}, {"start": "00:51:42", "end": "00:51:48", "text": "organs was so sore just from coughing. I think if you cough for 20 minutes at a"}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:53", "text": "time Yeah. regularly, you're going to feel Yeah. you're going to blow out the you the vessels in your eyes, you can crack"}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:51:58", "text": "a rib. There's all sorts of things. So, it was so painful, annoying and painful and very painful."}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:52:05", "text": "And um I think it might have been around 9:30, something like that. I decided to"}, {"start": "00:52:05", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "call my wife who was at work at the time and um called the number. I'm talking to"}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:16", "text": "her, you know, she's like, \"Hello.\" She's a receptionist and um she was like, \"Hello, you know, so and so.\" Um"}, {"start": "00:52:16", "end": "00:52:22", "text": "and I said, \"Hi.\" You know, she's like, \"Yeah, hi.\" And we're talking, you know, for probably 30 seconds, close to a"}, {"start": "00:52:22", "end": "00:52:29", "text": "minute. And she's like, \"I'm sorry. Who am I talking to?\" And I was like, \"It's your husband. It's Peter.\" And she's"}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "like, \"Oh my god, Pete, doesn't sound like you.\" And I said, \"Yeah, I know. I've been coughing for so long. I've got"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "a scratchy throat. That's probably why.\" She goes, \"No, babe. It you sound like a completely different person.\" And I"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:48", "text": "don't know if it was the adrenaline, if it was the pain, it was, you know. Yeah. And um I said to her, \"Look, I'm"}, {"start": "00:52:48", "end": "00:52:55", "text": "not ready to I said something happened to me. I'm not ready to talk to you about it yet, but when I do, just"}, {"start": "00:52:55", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "connect the coffin that I'm having now with what I tell you.\" And she's like, \"Okay.\" It took me 3 weeks. Um I did"}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "feel a little bit guilty or shameful. Yeah. Yeah. May maybe not shameful because I"}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:15", "text": "didn't do it. Wasn't But there is something there that you feel bad for your partner. Obviously, I felt guilty. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:20", "text": "Yeah. I felt like how is she going to it scared me like I thought how is she going to handle this and what if she"}, {"start": "00:53:20", "end": "00:53:25", "text": "doesn't believe what if she thinks oh well I think that's the first instinct for anyone is to go"}, {"start": "00:53:25", "end": "00:53:31", "text": "oh you're just you've cheated on me or something like that's that's where the human mind goes right it doesn't it doesn't go oh I believe you it's aliens"}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:38", "text": "like right away. That's right. Um you know so I think naturally anyone would you know fight back on that a little bit"}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:43", "text": "and that concerned me. I thought you know if once I tell her she and that's why it took me 3 weeks"}, {"start": "00:53:43", "end": "00:53:49", "text": "I think it was in about August 20 20th 21st something like that around around"}, {"start": "00:53:49", "end": "00:53:55", "text": "that time that I decided to talk to her about it and um when we did sit down and talk to what I talked to her about it"}, {"start": "00:53:55", "end": "00:54:01", "text": "and I remind her I said remember the coughing remember what I told you over the phone she's like yeah yeah I've been waiting to hear the rest of the story"}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:08", "text": "what happened and um I explained it to her and her reaction just blew me away"}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:14", "text": "um I couldn't couldn't believe how understanding she was. Um, anyone else would ask hundreds of questions just to"}, {"start": "00:54:14", "end": "00:54:20", "text": "confirm that it wasn't humans. It wasn't, you know, but look, people have accused me of hiring"}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "prostitutes at 7:00 in the morning after I've driven my wife to the station and vomited and got sick."}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:33", "text": "Yeah. While you were at home with a head injury, mate, who would think about having a cold girl come to their house?"}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:40", "text": "We can put all that aside. Yeah. Because what comes from this eventually, and we'll get to that, too."}, {"start": "00:54:40", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "What comes from this is DNA testing. That's right. And and that to me is the most important"}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:55", "text": "part of all this. And I have so many questions around that as well. But before we get into that, I do want to note a few things that points of"}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:55:02", "text": "connection. I think you're obviously familiar with Antonio Vizoas. Yes. Yeah. Uh a lot of similarities there. A"}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "lot of similarities. uh one the obviously uh humanlooking female. Now"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:15", "text": "the one in his story this happened in 19 51 I want to say Antonio vs. It was like"}, {"start": "00:55:15", "end": "00:55:21", "text": "the first um abduction maybe even 58 maybe later than that I think. Yeah. It was later."}, {"start": "00:55:21", "end": "00:55:26", "text": "Yeah. 58. It was before Betty and Barney. Yeah. Um so 1958."}, {"start": "00:55:26", "end": "00:55:32", "text": "Um and Antonio you know gets taken by these little guys with like tubes on their head. very strange ordeal. Gets"}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:38", "text": "put in a room undressed. Yeah. Um lthered up with some type of like antiseptic or something"}, {"start": "00:55:38", "end": "00:55:44", "text": "and then you know has intercourse with this um extraterrestrial being and she looks"}, {"start": "00:55:44", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "human but she's very short. She's like 5 foot tall even shorter shorter than that. So a bit of a"}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "difference there. But what's similar here is is two two things notably I think. One obviously the pointing to the"}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:56:01", "text": "stomach and the pointing to the sky. That's Antonio, you know, recounts that"}, {"start": "00:56:01", "end": "00:56:08", "text": "as well to the researchers that were studying his case. Um, he says that that's the last thing"}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:13", "text": "she did. He interpreted this as I'll be back."}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:18", "text": "When he told the researchers and the researchers were like, I don't think that that's what that means. I think,"}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:24", "text": "you know, I have a baby and I'm leaving or I'm going up there. And he's like, no, no, no. Uh, he's like, she'll be"}, {"start": "00:56:24", "end": "00:56:30", "text": "back. you know, he was kind of he felt slighted by this whole thing, which is um kind of interesting. Like he he he"}, {"start": "00:56:30", "end": "00:56:36", "text": "felt like he was just used, you know, like like some type of stallion. Yeah. And he didn't feel good about that. He"}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:42", "text": "felt pretty slighted about it and uh betrayed. The second thing is also in his case"}, {"start": "00:56:42", "end": "00:56:51", "text": "there was a uh prolonged erection as well, right? due to what cuz he had become"}, {"start": "00:56:51", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "very ill after this encounter almost like some type of radiation sickness. Oh, that and uh that that was a symptom too that"}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:03", "text": "he and and it lasted way longer and it was very painful um than it than it"}, {"start": "00:57:03", "end": "00:57:10", "text": "should have been. And so that's I think an interesting thing to note here. I don't know what that connection is, but seems like"}, {"start": "00:57:10", "end": "00:57:16", "text": "they u they applied the same method. Look, you know, a lot of men would think, \"Wow, an erection for 6 hours,"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "that's, you know, a bonus, a benefit.\" It's just so painful. It's not funny. And, um,"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:28", "text": "I wouldn't wish that on people. Um, yeah. It's It's not something to for me"}, {"start": "00:57:28", "end": "00:57:33", "text": "to brag about. Um, of course. Yeah. Yeah. And it's not like I had the"}, {"start": "00:57:33", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "ability. I think that's why I think I was giving something and it reacted cuz I didn't see any"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:45", "text": "broken skin on her. I didn't see blood. I didn't see any damage whatsoever when I did pinch with"}, {"start": "00:57:45", "end": "00:57:51", "text": "my teeth, but And no painful reaction from her either. Like no, it was more more surprised."}, {"start": "00:57:51", "end": "00:57:57", "text": "More surprised, you know, like not like ow. No, like what was the other one doing? And it was"}, {"start": "00:57:57", "end": "00:58:02", "text": "no movement, just watching. Just watching. Wow. Just intensely watching. And that's why"}, {"start": "00:58:02", "end": "00:58:09", "text": "I'm thinking someone was teaching someone and the other one was learning how to"}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:16", "text": "interact. that it was like someone was teaching someone how to re interact with us. But"}, {"start": "00:58:16", "end": "00:58:23", "text": "yeah. And um so anyway, so then after this, you keep this close to yourself. Um you don't share this"}, {"start": "00:58:23", "end": "00:58:30", "text": "with anyone. This is kind of like obviously a very traumatic experience, but also absurd, right? It's it's it's"}, {"start": "00:58:30", "end": "00:58:36", "text": "just absurd like as an experience. I didn't want to talk to anybody about it. You know, I told my partner cuz she"}, {"start": "00:58:36", "end": "00:58:42", "text": "had supported me all along and I thought if I'm going to speak to anybody, I'm going to speak to her, you know, before"}, {"start": "00:58:42", "end": "00:58:47", "text": "I go and try and speak to professionals or anyone. And I really didn't want to at that time, you know, I had talked"}, {"start": "00:58:47", "end": "00:58:55", "text": "about my 88 experience, my childhood experience, but this one I held on to and I didn't want even Bill Chalker,"}, {"start": "00:58:55", "end": "00:59:02", "text": "I didn't speak to him. Um, my story uh for the 88 experience, it appeared in"}, {"start": "00:59:02", "end": "00:59:07", "text": "Bill's Of Files book and um I wasn't looking for glory. I"}, {"start": "00:59:07", "end": "00:59:14", "text": "wasn't looking to have my case written up, you know, I kept it to myself cuz I did think it was just too personal."}, {"start": "00:59:14", "end": "00:59:23", "text": "Yeah. And um how how it all went public or you know became known was um we we"}, {"start": "00:59:23", "end": "00:59:28", "text": "were doing a someone offered to do a documentary film about my story and um"}, {"start": "00:59:28", "end": "00:59:34", "text": "we had two female producers directors come to my house Bill yesterday. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:59:34", "end": "00:59:40", "text": "Yeah. Bill Chalker was there and um as they you know so they they sort of"}, {"start": "00:59:40", "end": "00:59:46", "text": "thought it was a bit funny and you know they were joking around and all they were interested in is getting two"}, {"start": "00:59:46", "end": "00:59:52", "text": "t-shirts so they can give to the producers if this is real if this is real there should be some"}, {"start": "00:59:52", "end": "00:59:58", "text": "physical evidence you know like in a sexual assault case and I couldn't help myself you know I was like you want"}, {"start": "00:59:58", "end": "01:00:04", "text": "evidence I'll show you evidence it was like they were mocking me in a way you know oh if this is real there should the"}, {"start": "01:00:04", "end": "01:00:10", "text": "evidence and I said, \"You want evidence? I'll show you evidence.\" And I don't think they expected to see what I what I"}, {"start": "01:00:10", "end": "01:00:17", "text": "came back with. So I went and grabbed the grabbed the hair samples which were in the bag and I said, \"There's evidence"}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:23", "text": "that this is from that experience.\" And they were like, \"Oh, oh, that looks interesting. You should be this should"}, {"start": "01:00:23", "end": "01:00:29", "text": "be tested or whatever, you know.\" And after that day, we never heard from them ever again. But Bill was present."}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:35", "text": "Bill was present. What was his reaction? Well, as soon as Bill heard it, he stood up. He was sitting down at the time and"}, {"start": "01:00:35", "end": "01:00:42", "text": "he stood up and he waited for them to make their comments, you know, and so on. And then he walked up to me quietly"}, {"start": "01:00:42", "end": "01:00:49", "text": "and just said, \"Mate, why haven't you told me about this?\" And Bill is all about physical evidence, you know, trace"}, {"start": "01:00:49", "end": "01:00:54", "text": "evidence. Yeah. Um, and I remember saying to him, \"Bill,"}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:01:00", "text": "my 1988 experience was bad enough like to get across to people and talk about.\" And I said,"}, {"start": "01:01:00", "end": "01:01:06", "text": "\"This is a whole new can of worms. I don't want to open, you know, I just don't want to deal with it."}, {"start": "01:01:06", "end": "01:01:12", "text": "And he was like, okay, but whenever you're ready, please let me know. So,"}, {"start": "01:01:12", "end": "01:01:19", "text": "moving ahead now, few years went by, you know. Well, you had started this had also this"}, {"start": "01:01:19", "end": "01:01:26", "text": "was kind of the spawn of the support group. Yeah. Not long after. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:33", "text": "Yeah. This is like uh a year later you were to maybe less than a year later you were to form this uh support group. Was"}, {"start": "01:01:33", "end": "01:01:42", "text": "this um experience a bit of a catalyst for that? 100%. Yeah. So on the 13th of April 1993"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:48", "text": "um we formed the UFA experience support association which was a support group"}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:54", "text": "just to give people I just real I thought if it's affected me so much and I've got evidence to support those"}, {"start": "01:01:54", "end": "01:02:00", "text": "people have had these experiences but don't have the physical evidence they'd be struggling and I wanted to"}, {"start": "01:02:00", "end": "01:02:07", "text": "give them a place that they can turn to and speak openly about it without being ridiculed without being you know"}, {"start": "01:02:07", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "um anybody is sort of labeling what they're seeing or diagnosing or I just want them to speak their mind."}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:21", "text": "And um when Bill contacted me um I believe it"}, {"start": "01:02:21", "end": "01:02:27", "text": "was around 96 and he advised me that he had a group of"}, {"start": "01:02:27", "end": "01:02:33", "text": "colleagues um the invisible college and um he said they have you still got their"}, {"start": "01:02:33", "end": "01:02:40", "text": "hair sample? I said yeah I do. and he said, \"Would you want it to be DNA tested?\" And I jumped at the CH. I"}, {"start": "01:02:40", "end": "01:02:45", "text": "didn't even have to think about it twice. I was like, \"Yep, let's do it.\" Not I trusted Bill, too. You know, I"}, {"start": "01:02:45", "end": "01:02:53", "text": "wouldn't have given that sample to anybody else. No. And um I did have people ask me to give"}, {"start": "01:02:53", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "it to him to test, but that was the group that the guy had the t-shirt with some evidence and threw"}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:04", "text": "it in the bin. Right. Not the group you want to give that to. No, no, no. I'm not. And I I tell you right now, if I did, that case would"}, {"start": "01:03:04", "end": "01:03:11", "text": "have been buried. Yeah. You would have never seen it. You would never seen the hair again. You would have never seen the test. So, I"}, {"start": "01:03:11", "end": "01:03:17", "text": "just trusted Bill and I said, \"Yeah, mate. Come and pick it up, you know, come and get it.\" And they took the hair"}, {"start": "01:03:17", "end": "01:03:24", "text": "and the hair was gone for 10 years. And this is the uh Invisible College. That's right. This is Bill and his uh Bill and his his"}, {"start": "01:03:24", "end": "01:03:32", "text": "group of scientific scientists and and you know um like-minded That's right. sort of uh investigators"}, {"start": "01:03:32", "end": "01:03:38", "text": "um and peers and they take this sample and they do several DNA tests. You said it was 10"}, {"start": "01:03:38", "end": "01:03:44", "text": "years. I didn't have the hair for 10 years. You didn't have the hair for 10 years but got you got the results though. We got the results. Yeah. Bill had the"}, {"start": "01:03:44", "end": "01:03:49", "text": "hair for um 10 years, a 10 year period. And um"}, {"start": "01:03:49", "end": "01:03:55", "text": "there were two tests done. There were two tests done. And after the first test, they came to my house."}, {"start": "01:03:55", "end": "01:04:01", "text": "couple of scientists um the head scientist Taus Drew, Dr. Horris Drew"}, {"start": "01:04:01", "end": "01:04:07", "text": "and Bill came over and they took a hair sample of me. They took hair samples from your wife. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:04:07", "end": "01:04:12", "text": "And um they went away. Yeah. To to create a control. Yeah. Yeah. They thought it might have"}, {"start": "01:04:12", "end": "01:04:21", "text": "been, you know, Vivian's hair. But But you also have to have a comparison as a control. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, they they had the"}, {"start": "01:04:21", "end": "01:04:26", "text": "hair for a couple of months and then, um, Bill contacted me and he said,"}, {"start": "01:04:26", "end": "01:04:32", "text": "\"Mate, we've got some results here that aren't adding up. Um, we want to do some"}, {"start": "01:04:32", "end": "01:04:39", "text": "more work on this. Um, will you give us permission?\" And I said, \"Do what you got to do, you know.\" And the second"}, {"start": "01:04:39", "end": "01:04:44", "text": "phase was the nuclear DNA testing. And"}, {"start": "01:04:44", "end": "01:04:51", "text": "in one of the tests they found the in the root of the hair they had the rarest Basque Gaelic Scandinavian looking you"}, {"start": "01:04:51", "end": "01:04:57", "text": "know tall blonde blue eyes DNA and in the shaft of the hair it had"}, {"start": "01:04:57", "end": "01:05:02", "text": "the rarest mitochondrial DNA the Chinese Yeah the Mongolian"}, {"start": "01:05:02", "end": "01:05:09", "text": "Mongolian loo and um yeah those that's two individually two"}, {"start": "01:05:09", "end": "01:05:15", "text": "rare haplo types um the Chinese Tibetan one being"}, {"start": "01:05:15", "end": "01:05:20", "text": "extremely rare. Like I mean there's only a few other haplo types that are more"}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:26", "text": "rare than that. One of them is like the pygmy tribe. Like that's right. We're talking extremely extremely rare."}, {"start": "01:05:26", "end": "01:05:31", "text": "So already first of all it having two hlo in the"}, {"start": "01:05:31", "end": "01:05:37", "text": "same sample we're talking same hair. Yeah. Uh is highly unusual."}, {"start": "01:05:37", "end": "01:05:45", "text": "Yeah. There's some type of graft happening. This is before hair grafts. So there's some type of um mix happening here. Now"}, {"start": "01:05:45", "end": "01:05:51", "text": "at first one might be quick to dismiss that as some type of contamination but you have to understand that when testing"}, {"start": "01:05:51", "end": "01:05:58", "text": "these things these things are washed 100% they are they are made sure that there is no contaminant whatsoever. So"}, {"start": "01:05:58", "end": "01:06:04", "text": "although you know that's that's where people's that's where people would interject even that"}, {"start": "01:06:04", "end": "01:06:09", "text": "but the the head scientist they got to understand um he had written a number of books he"}, {"start": "01:06:09", "end": "01:06:14", "text": "was you know high authority on the DNA um stuff and um"}, {"start": "01:06:14", "end": "01:06:20", "text": "if there was anything questionable he would have discovered it well they were looking for it"}, {"start": "01:06:20", "end": "01:06:25", "text": "they were looking yeah they were trying to find something to discredit you know not discredit but to prove that"}, {"start": "01:06:25", "end": "01:06:32", "text": "something because it's anomalous It's an absolute anomaly. So, you know, um on top of on"}, {"start": "01:06:32", "end": "01:06:37", "text": "top of that, the hair itself being the color and tone, it was it was"}, {"start": "01:06:37", "end": "01:06:45", "text": "like a like a very light blonde or like a see-through almost albino. Yeah. Um hair and it was like even more"}, {"start": "01:06:45", "end": "01:06:51", "text": "intriguing than albino. You see the white hair. That's right. Where this one it was when I said"}, {"start": "01:06:51", "end": "01:06:58", "text": "earlier it was like wispy but it was like see-through. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They couldn't actually like um see it."}, {"start": "01:06:58", "end": "01:07:03", "text": "They had to like even when they were studying it, they had to use like light to to bounce off of it because you"}, {"start": "01:07:03", "end": "01:07:11", "text": "couldn't see it. It was so faint and so uh transparent. Now, the idea that anyone with any type of"}, {"start": "01:07:11", "end": "01:07:19", "text": "Asian heritage having that having even blonde hair, you know, is so close to"}, {"start": "01:07:19", "end": "01:07:24", "text": "one in a few billion. It wasn't even blonde. It was white. Yeah. like it was actually white hair."}, {"start": "01:07:24", "end": "01:07:29", "text": "And then what they did, they even tested your white hair. That's right. Uh to make sure like I mean they went"}, {"start": "01:07:29", "end": "01:07:36", "text": "through the ringer with this stuff to make sure that what they were looking at was indeed what they were what the results were"}, {"start": "01:07:36", "end": "01:07:43", "text": "showing. Yeah. They didn't leave a stone unturned and um they went about it the right way. So on"}, {"start": "01:07:43", "end": "01:07:50", "text": "top of that, on top of having two sort of hlo types in this mitochondrial DNA"}, {"start": "01:07:50", "end": "01:07:59", "text": "test after that they do another test which you mentioned. Yes. Um what they found was a CCR5 gene"}, {"start": "01:07:59", "end": "01:08:05", "text": "dilution and if you don't have that in your system you're not two. That's right. Yeah. And you're not going to you're not going"}, {"start": "01:08:05", "end": "01:08:12", "text": "to catch sexually transmitted diseases. That's right. And when early on when I had these researchers sit down with me"}, {"start": "01:08:12", "end": "01:08:18", "text": "and question me for hours and hours. Um, and I said to them like these people are"}, {"start": "01:08:18", "end": "01:08:25", "text": "made for a reason, this is where it all yeah comes together. And um, if you if"}, {"start": "01:08:25", "end": "01:08:30", "text": "you're going to have or make a being or a creature, male, female, whatever, and"}, {"start": "01:08:30", "end": "01:08:36", "text": "they don't have that and they're not going to catch sexually transmitted diseases. Yeah. It's part and parcel of what"}, {"start": "01:08:36", "end": "01:08:42", "text": "they're trying to achieve. You wouldn't have someone that's going to catch a disease and affect a a child, a baby or"}, {"start": "01:08:42", "end": "01:08:47", "text": "whatever or affect them. Another another arrow pointing to um to"}, {"start": "01:08:47", "end": "01:08:52", "text": "this being engineered. Yeah. To this being being engineered in some way. And and the science a couple of the"}, {"start": "01:08:52", "end": "01:08:58", "text": "people who did the research or the testing, they even Dr. Horus Drew um he"}, {"start": "01:08:58", "end": "01:09:03", "text": "had the he thought that the hairs were placed there on purpose"}, {"start": "01:09:03", "end": "01:09:10", "text": "you know and wasn't an accident and it's like these beings are saying what's taken you so bloody long"}, {"start": "01:09:10", "end": "01:09:17", "text": "and I can understand where people are now saying it same thing happened to me with the same beings"}, {"start": "01:09:17", "end": "01:09:22", "text": "type of donation and I had a hair I've also got hairs but I've lost them or I dropped them or you"}, {"start": "01:09:22", "end": "01:09:28", "text": "know okay so before we get to there I want to explain and what the CCR5"}, {"start": "01:09:28", "end": "01:09:33", "text": "sort of gene deletion means. Now, this is not it's so it's a chemocine receptor"}, {"start": "01:09:33", "end": "01:09:39", "text": "type five. That's what it stands for. And it's a protein on the surface of the white blood cell. And what it"}, {"start": "01:09:39", "end": "01:09:44", "text": "essentially does, it acts as a gateway. So, that protein uh goes around the white blood cell and it acts as a"}, {"start": "01:09:44", "end": "01:09:51", "text": "gateway for viruses. So, if you're missing one of these gene receptors, you're uh pretty immune."}, {"start": "01:09:51", "end": "01:09:58", "text": "Yeah. you have a good immunity to uh especially AIDS but to sexually transmitted diseases. But if you have"}, {"start": "01:09:58", "end": "01:10:03", "text": "both like two copies which means you would have to have one from each parent"}, {"start": "01:10:03", "end": "01:10:11", "text": "which makes it incredibly rare that both of the parents have this gene deletion. Yeah. Um they would make you almost completely"}, {"start": "01:10:11", "end": "01:10:17", "text": "immune to to all that stuff. uh which is in"}, {"start": "01:10:17", "end": "01:10:24", "text": "Euro in Eurasian so European Asians um fewer than 1% have like a gene deletion"}, {"start": "01:10:24", "end": "01:10:30", "text": "there and that DNA would be like maybe one just"}, {"start": "01:10:30", "end": "01:10:37", "text": "having that Eurasian DNA would be one in 100,000 then plus the gene deletion if we add the blonde phenotype let's say"}, {"start": "01:10:37", "end": "01:10:44", "text": "it's blonde which is 2% globally if we combine that all of these different"}, {"start": "01:10:44", "end": "01:10:51", "text": "factor We have the, you know, this fact that it's a a white hair, a blonde hair, uh,"}, {"start": "01:10:51", "end": "01:10:56", "text": "from an Asian descent from this small haplo type. Um, if we add in the fact"}, {"start": "01:10:56", "end": "01:11:02", "text": "that it has these, uh, CCR5 deletion,"}, {"start": "01:11:02", "end": "01:11:11", "text": "the chances, and I ran this through like chat GPT to see what the chances were, and it's zero. It's zero in the"}, {"start": "01:11:11", "end": "01:11:17", "text": "population. It's one in billions. That's interesting. Billions, billions, billions. So, this"}, {"start": "01:11:17", "end": "01:11:25", "text": "is where this is where it gets really really interesting because the tests that they were uh doing back then uh now"}, {"start": "01:11:25", "end": "01:11:31", "text": "they have something called a high throughput sequencing, right? Uh with genes. So, uh back back then"}, {"start": "01:11:31", "end": "01:11:38", "text": "they would look at uh base pairs and they could only look at like one base pair at a time and they could do a few hundred base pair using the PCR method"}, {"start": "01:11:38", "end": "01:11:45", "text": "to PCR method. Yeah. To like duplicate the DNA. And that's another thing with the P and we'll get to that. Yeah. With the"}, {"start": "01:11:45", "end": "01:11:50", "text": "the gentleman who who discovered Muller who's had some experiences himself. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:11:50", "end": "01:11:56", "text": "But this PCR test essentially it revolutionized gene testing and DNA testing because what this did was you"}, {"start": "01:11:56", "end": "01:12:01", "text": "were able to replicate DNA. And so you were able to do a bunch of tests with a very very small sample."}, {"start": "01:12:01", "end": "01:12:07", "text": "That's right. It's what they use in crime scenes now. It's what they use in all these different things. Yeah. We might be familiar with it with COVID."}, {"start": "01:12:07", "end": "01:12:13", "text": "We had PCR tests. Yes. And that's what it was. it was a small sample that they were able to extrapolate, you know, a lot of"}, {"start": "01:12:13", "end": "01:12:19", "text": "information from, a lot of data. Well, what you would do is you would do this um you know, you would look at base"}, {"start": "01:12:19", "end": "01:12:25", "text": "pairs. You would uh basically sequence this in and uh hundreds of times back in"}, {"start": "01:12:25", "end": "01:12:32", "text": "the '9s. Yeah. Now, and that would take you weeks. Now, with the technology we have, you could"}, {"start": "01:12:32", "end": "01:12:38", "text": "do billions in an hour. It's insane what we can do with DNA nowadays compared to even 20 years ago, 30 years ago."}, {"start": "01:12:38", "end": "01:12:44", "text": "1992. Yeah. 33 years ago. And so my question is, would you be willing"}, {"start": "01:12:44", "end": "01:12:50", "text": "to have it retested with and and I'll pay for it? Yeah. Unfortunately,"}, {"start": "01:12:50", "end": "01:12:55", "text": "the the hair was destroyed to a point where there's no root anymore. There's not enough"}, {"start": "01:12:55", "end": "01:13:01", "text": "there. And there's the the shaft that I have. Yeah. It's minute. But my recollection"}, {"start": "01:13:01", "end": "01:13:08", "text": "is that Dr. Horris Drew said to me, this is over a phone conversation, not one-on-one in person."}, {"start": "01:13:08", "end": "01:13:13", "text": "Um he said to me, \"Look, DNA is just we're in the toddler stage.\""}, {"start": "01:13:13", "end": "01:13:21", "text": "Yeah. Back then, he said, \"This is just starting. It's going to get much, much more advanced.\" And he said, \"He's got a"}, {"start": "01:13:21", "end": "01:13:26", "text": "little vial with a little bit of DNA and it's sitting in his safe. He's saving it.\""}, {"start": "01:13:26", "end": "01:13:31", "text": "And he said to me, \"Who knows what could happen in 10, 20 years with the"}, {"start": "01:13:31", "end": "01:13:36", "text": "advancement of um when they first um did the test, they did it in a lab, a"}, {"start": "01:13:36", "end": "01:13:44", "text": "private lab.\" Yeah, I know in a couple of podcasts they say CSO did it. No, it was CSO"}, {"start": "01:13:44", "end": "01:13:49", "text": "staff that worked there but didn't do it through CSRO. They kept that sorry they"}, {"start": "01:13:49", "end": "01:13:56", "text": "kept that separate and um I"}, {"start": "01:13:56", "end": "01:14:01", "text": "I got the impression that well that's what I was told that there was minute"}, {"start": "01:14:01", "end": "01:14:08", "text": "tube of DNA and 10 20 years down the track they could do a lot more with it."}, {"start": "01:14:08", "end": "01:14:17", "text": "I think that's today. I think we could do today and I've asked Bill to ask Dr. Horus Drew to please please"}, {"start": "01:14:17", "end": "01:14:23", "text": "go and look in his safe cuz I didn't make that up. I that didn't just come into my head and I thought oh yeah he"}, {"start": "01:14:23", "end": "01:14:29", "text": "he's got I was told that he did. So maybe because he's done so so many"}, {"start": "01:14:29", "end": "01:14:34", "text": "different things and he's just forgotten about it maybe. But I'm reminding him and Bill and"}, {"start": "01:14:34", "end": "01:14:40", "text": "saying just check you might find a little tube there a little vial. Yeah. And it might have and then maybe we can"}, {"start": "01:14:40", "end": "01:14:48", "text": "work with that. Now, some I I got contacted by a scientist from Western um Sydney University, and he said to me,"}, {"start": "01:14:48", "end": "01:14:53", "text": "\"We need one sixth of the hair, the size of the hair, and we'll tell you what they ate,"}, {"start": "01:14:53", "end": "01:14:59", "text": "what they eat.\" And I said, \"Look, I don't have much of the hair left. I'm not going to destroy the hair,"}, {"start": "01:14:59", "end": "01:15:04", "text": "completely lose it, and not have anything um to find out what they eat. Like, I"}, {"start": "01:15:04", "end": "01:15:10", "text": "don't care whether they eat strawberry or whether they eat apples, you know? I really don't care. It'd be good if we"}, {"start": "01:15:10", "end": "01:15:16", "text": "had enough samples. I I wish they left a clunk of hair. I mean, what's what's interesting here"}, {"start": "01:15:16", "end": "01:15:23", "text": "that if you do end up getting it tested, and here's what matters the most is because this these tests and this"}, {"start": "01:15:23", "end": "01:15:29", "text": "study was not peer-reviewed. And I know I know that's innocuous to compare that to what happened to you"}, {"start": "01:15:29", "end": "01:15:35", "text": "because it's objectively something that's real. Um to say that like, oh, you need this"}, {"start": "01:15:35", "end": "01:15:40", "text": "to be peer-reviewed to be real is is absurd. Mhm. However,"}, {"start": "01:15:40", "end": "01:15:47", "text": "that would revolutionize science. Yeah. Because we're looking at something that"}, {"start": "01:15:47", "end": "01:15:55", "text": "although after, you know, doing the modern sort of uh throughput tests with it, the high throughput sequencing,"}, {"start": "01:15:55", "end": "01:16:00", "text": "we wouldn't be able to prove it's extraterrestrial. That's right. You know, you'd never be like, \"Oh, that's alien.\""}, {"start": "01:16:00", "end": "01:16:05", "text": "Yeah. But we could effectively say there is nothing else, not only in the human"}, {"start": "01:16:05", "end": "01:16:11", "text": "gene pool, but even in the bacterial gene pool. Yeah. That matches this DNA."}, {"start": "01:16:11", "end": "01:16:17", "text": "That's right. And and that type of anomaly would be groundbreaking. Look, when I handed them the sample, I"}, {"start": "01:16:17", "end": "01:16:24", "text": "wasn't expecting much at all. Yeah. And I don't think they were either. And um when they came back to me with the"}, {"start": "01:16:24", "end": "01:16:30", "text": "results, um of course, I would love to have it verified. I would love to have five, six"}, {"start": "01:16:30", "end": "01:16:36", "text": "different labs test it, but unfortunately there's only a small sample. There's only a small sample and that's"}, {"start": "01:16:36", "end": "01:16:41", "text": "where I keep saying the bill. Yeah. Ask him to find that vial because it's"}, {"start": "01:16:41", "end": "01:16:47", "text": "only a little bit. But PCR they can they can copy that multiple times. They can copy an infinite amount of"}, {"start": "01:16:47", "end": "01:16:52", "text": "times. And it's taken me years and years saying to him, and only last week, I"}, {"start": "01:16:52", "end": "01:16:58", "text": "said to him, \"Bill, please just ask Chorus to look in his safe cuz I remember him telling me it's in his"}, {"start": "01:16:58", "end": "01:17:04", "text": "safe. I don't know how many things he's got in his safe, but it wouldn't be hard to find a vial that has my name on it.\" Or"}, {"start": "01:17:04", "end": "01:17:11", "text": "Bill, if you're watching right now, all right, let's make this happen. Let's let's contact uh uh Dr. Horus. Let's"}, {"start": "01:17:11", "end": "01:17:17", "text": "figure out how to do this. Peter, I'm going to follow up with you. Oh, mate. I would love"}, {"start": "01:17:17", "end": "01:17:23", "text": "I will follow up weekly until we get to the bottom of this. That's what I'd like to do. And I don't know how hard it is to open your safe"}, {"start": "01:17:23", "end": "01:17:29", "text": "and have a look. It's not hard. And I'll tell you, it's not hard to have this tested and nowadays the these tests are are"}, {"start": "01:17:29", "end": "01:17:35", "text": "affordable. They're done in a timely manner and they're done more safely than ever. Like to to preserve the DNA would"}, {"start": "01:17:35", "end": "01:17:40", "text": "be a lot easier today than before. I met Horus um Dr. Horris Drew. He's"}, {"start": "01:17:40", "end": "01:17:46", "text": "been to my house. We you know, we've gone out to dinners and stuff like that. So, I do trust him, but a lot of people"}, {"start": "01:17:46", "end": "01:17:53", "text": "say to me, \"Oh, I bet you they're hiding it. They don't want it tested anymore. They don't want it to be proved any further.\" And um"}, {"start": "01:17:53", "end": "01:17:59", "text": "proved quite a bit. Why would they do that if they didn't want to prove it? So, yeah, I"}, {"start": "01:17:59", "end": "01:18:05", "text": "I'd be ecstatic if if we could dig it up and have it tested."}, {"start": "01:18:05", "end": "01:18:10", "text": "Well, let's work on that and verified by, you know, cuz that's a criticism I get that it wasn't"}, {"start": "01:18:10", "end": "01:18:16", "text": "peer-reviewed. Peer reviewed. Yeah. But I mean we have if we find uh a"}, {"start": "01:18:16", "end": "01:18:22", "text": "sizable sample that we're able to do these high throughput sequencings on"}, {"start": "01:18:22", "end": "01:18:28", "text": "we will effectively have all the ingredients to have it peer-reviewed."}, {"start": "01:18:28", "end": "01:18:34", "text": "Yeah. Make no mistake. And you know proving this type of anomaly"}, {"start": "01:18:34", "end": "01:18:39", "text": "although it doesn't prove aliens it points to aliens. Yeah. Because if you look at your story"}, {"start": "01:18:39", "end": "01:18:46", "text": "and what has happened to you and then providing a hair that's being tested to be completely anomalous. I mean, plus it"}, {"start": "01:18:46", "end": "01:18:53", "text": "has the CCR5 gene deletion. I mean, come on. Yeah. This is I mean, this is why I consider"}, {"start": "01:18:53", "end": "01:18:58", "text": "this and I'm sure Bill agrees here. This is probably the most important case. Um,"}, {"start": "01:18:58", "end": "01:19:04", "text": "and if we can figure that out, I mean, I I think that's for me one step closer to"}, {"start": "01:19:04", "end": "01:19:10", "text": "the whole world waking up to this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I I agree. Um I think we"}, {"start": "01:19:10", "end": "01:19:17", "text": "should work on that. Let's do it. I'm not making this up. I know what I got told. I mean, it's it's my case. I'm"}, {"start": "01:19:17", "end": "01:19:22", "text": "interested in what evidence they had. And then I expected nothing to come from"}, {"start": "01:19:22", "end": "01:19:27", "text": "it. I thought, \"Oh, it's just going to be, you know, probably normal human and that although I knew they weren't, I"}, {"start": "01:19:27", "end": "01:19:34", "text": "just I don't know. I had no didn't have high expectations at all.\" He is he in Australia as well, Dr. Yeah. Yeah, he's in Australia. Um"}, {"start": "01:19:34", "end": "01:19:39", "text": "20 minutes from my house. You let me know if he finds it. I'll be on the first flight."}, {"start": "01:19:39", "end": "01:19:46", "text": "I'm going to come down there. We're going to hang out in Australia. We'll document the whole thing to make sure we got receipts. Look, when they took the hair from me to"}, {"start": "01:19:46", "end": "01:19:53", "text": "test it, the testing was done over probably a two one to two year period."}, {"start": "01:19:53", "end": "01:20:00", "text": "But the hair was kept for 10 years all up from the day I gave it to them. 10 years. And I did ask Bill for it a"}, {"start": "01:20:00", "end": "01:20:06", "text": "couple of times and just from forgetting and that it went, you know, it stretched out a couple of years. And then"}, {"start": "01:20:06", "end": "01:20:12", "text": "eventually I said to him, you know, my kids are interested to have it in the family like they might want to show it"}, {"start": "01:20:12", "end": "01:20:19", "text": "to their children one day. And um can I want I want the hair back? And within a"}, {"start": "01:20:19", "end": "01:20:24", "text": "couple of weeks, he brought it back and he was in a slide and u he had a letter"}, {"start": "01:20:24", "end": "01:20:30", "text": "to show a chain of events. Yeah. Just a chain of events. that there was proof that he gave it"}, {"start": "01:20:30", "end": "01:20:37", "text": "back back sorry back to me and you know I look I trusted Bill with it but I had a lot a lot of people who"}, {"start": "01:20:37", "end": "01:20:43", "text": "didn't like Bill for you know because he raises the bar so high in his investigations and that some people"}, {"start": "01:20:43", "end": "01:20:49", "text": "can't you know catch up or keep up and they have a go at him but they used to make really derogative"}, {"start": "01:20:49", "end": "01:20:56", "text": "comments about him you know keeping the hair and I'll never see the hair again and and I knew Bill well enough"}, {"start": "01:20:56", "end": "01:21:03", "text": "um that he keep it in safe hands. It was in safe hands and I trusted him, you know, and eventually I got it"}, {"start": "01:21:03", "end": "01:21:09", "text": "and um yeah, it's disappointing. It's not very big in the slide, you know, it's only a little bit of hair, but I"}, {"start": "01:21:09", "end": "01:21:16", "text": "get a lot of people who say to me, \"I bet you you don't have the hair anymore.\" Thinking that's to catch me out. And I say to them, no, I do. And"}, {"start": "01:21:16", "end": "01:21:23", "text": "that's where it shocks them, you know, and they they don't know what to say. Well, you know, we talked about this,"}, {"start": "01:21:23", "end": "01:21:30", "text": "too. Um, before you came here or like after you got here, you said, you know, you you even contemplated bringing it on the flight. I'm glad you didn't. I'm"}, {"start": "01:21:30", "end": "01:21:35", "text": "glad you didn't because I think, you know, something so valuable, I think it's priceless. I think if it does provide the"}, {"start": "01:21:35", "end": "01:21:41", "text": "information that um, you know, could lead to this type of discovery, I think"}, {"start": "01:21:41", "end": "01:21:46", "text": "that's priceless. I think that's a, you know, that's it's not something you should flippantly throw into your carry-on. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:21:46", "end": "01:21:53", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. And I I didn't want customs grabbing it and getting a hold of it. It's biological and asking where, you"}, {"start": "01:21:53", "end": "01:22:00", "text": "know, I didn't want to go into that detail. Yeah. And it is fragile like it's in a bit of glass. And look, Bill was"}, {"start": "01:22:00", "end": "01:22:06", "text": "criticized because it was in in a glass slide and the glass slide cracked. So, he didn't want to remove it and put in"}, {"start": "01:22:06", "end": "01:22:11", "text": "another one in case he lost it. Yeah. Lost some part of it. You could sneeze. You could air air blow"}, {"start": "01:22:11", "end": "01:22:17", "text": "it. So what I suggested was let's just put some black tape around it like frame"}, {"start": "01:22:17", "end": "01:22:24", "text": "it but keep it in that glass. So, we actually covered the bro the cracked section which is on the other side where"}, {"start": "01:22:24", "end": "01:22:30", "text": "the hair is and that's where it sits and perfect, you know, great. And it'll be there, you know, if uh if"}, {"start": "01:22:30", "end": "01:22:36", "text": "we want to clone an alien one day, mate. That's what I got told early on. They said, \"Imagine what we do.\""}, {"start": "01:22:36", "end": "01:22:42", "text": "We've all seen Jurassic Park. Imagine what we can do, you know, but I don't even know if this sample that I"}, {"start": "01:22:42", "end": "01:22:47", "text": "have would have any more DNA in it. Uh I, you know, you need very little"}, {"start": "01:22:47", "end": "01:22:54", "text": "nowadays. Yeah. We're we've gotten to the point where it's, you know, obviously over time there's some deterioration and"}, {"start": "01:22:54", "end": "01:23:00", "text": "whatnot. And yes, the root would provide, you know, um Well, I don't have the root that was"}, {"start": "01:23:00", "end": "01:23:05", "text": "destroyed. Yeah. But, you know, between the sample that you have currently and what potentially"}, {"start": "01:23:05", "end": "01:23:13", "text": "lies in in um a safe in a safe somewhere in a vot. Yeah. We might be able to run maybe one last"}, {"start": "01:23:13", "end": "01:23:21", "text": "test with the technology that we have today. Yeah. and get this thing peer reviewed. And by God, if that won't be the biggest"}, {"start": "01:23:21", "end": "01:23:29", "text": "discovery, mate, when when someone says to me, the head scientist says to me, \"Look, we we"}, {"start": "01:23:29", "end": "01:23:34", "text": "got my new DNA. It's in a vial. It's in my safe, I remember that. I'm not making"}, {"start": "01:23:34", "end": "01:23:40", "text": "it up. I'm not just out of the blue trying to put him in a bad situation.\" No, he he,"}, {"start": "01:23:40", "end": "01:23:46", "text": "you know, we're friends. Um he supports me. Um I've invited follow up."}, {"start": "01:23:46", "end": "01:23:54", "text": "I've invited him to conferences. It's not like he's, you know, it off the cuff now. I'm sure I'm sure if he was to dig"}, {"start": "01:23:54", "end": "01:23:59", "text": "through Yeah. take it, clean out your every now and every now and then you should clean out"}, {"start": "01:23:59", "end": "01:24:05", "text": "your safe, right? Clean it out. And if you see that vial, please. Let's do something."}, {"start": "01:24:05", "end": "01:24:11", "text": "Let's 100% do something. I'm all for it. Like, I'll I'll I'll I'll even pay for it. While cleaning out the safe, he should"}, {"start": "01:24:11", "end": "01:24:19", "text": "invite you over just to make sure that True. That would be nice. that would be nice. Um, an interesting thing that came up"}, {"start": "01:24:19", "end": "01:24:25", "text": "recently that I wanted to mention as well, and I don't know if this caught your attention, but obviously, you know,"}, {"start": "01:24:25", "end": "01:24:30", "text": "when speaking about hybridization, a program teaching, you know, Dr. David"}, {"start": "01:24:30", "end": "01:24:35", "text": "Jacobs comes up, his his work comes up a lot, but something else came up recently. There was a New York Post"}, {"start": "01:24:35", "end": "01:24:42", "text": "article. Have you read this? I bet. Uh, so Dr. Max Remple. He's a um Russian"}, {"start": "01:24:42", "end": "01:24:49", "text": "geneticist, a molecular biologist who studied he studied 581 families data and"}, {"start": "01:24:49", "end": "01:24:54", "text": "found that the children of 11 of those families had markers in their DNA that"}, {"start": "01:24:54", "end": "01:25:02", "text": "didn't match either of the parents. Wow. Um he hypothesizes that it is alien"}, {"start": "01:25:02", "end": "01:25:09", "text": "DNA that this is the result of a hybrid program. So 348 variants in total were"}, {"start": "01:25:09", "end": "01:25:16", "text": "found. Uh and the sample was taken uh these children were born prior to 1990. So this is before crisper. This is"}, {"start": "01:25:16", "end": "01:25:23", "text": "before we could have edited the DNA before they're born, right? Um so yeah, out of these 581, 11"}, {"start": "01:25:23", "end": "01:25:30", "text": "families had markers in their genes that showed no signs from either parents."}, {"start": "01:25:30", "end": "01:25:37", "text": "Like that showed sorry anom anomalies that did not match DNA that did not match either parents. And there was 348"}, {"start": "01:25:37", "end": "01:25:44", "text": "of those variants. So is that suggesting that their parents aren't their real parents? Yeah. That that no that there are"}, {"start": "01:25:44", "end": "01:25:50", "text": "markers in their DNA that don't come from either parents. That their parents are their parents, but there's something"}, {"start": "01:25:50", "end": "01:25:56", "text": "in their DNA that is not from their parents. Now, as everybody knows, you're made of 50% mom"}, {"start": "01:25:56", "end": "01:26:02", "text": "and 50% dad. That's right. That's how genetics works. It takes a split 50 down the middle and it makes"}, {"start": "01:26:02", "end": "01:26:09", "text": "you part of both. That's right. So to have any anomalous sort of uh variant in the DNA that isn't"}, {"start": "01:26:09", "end": "01:26:15", "text": "of either parent is very bizarre. Now where does it come from? Yeah, this is yet to be peer-reviewed. He is working on this, but a New York"}, {"start": "01:26:15", "end": "01:26:21", "text": "Post article came out. I thought that that was incredibly timely because it was last week and I was having you on this week."}, {"start": "01:26:21", "end": "01:26:27", "text": "Okay. And I thought, wow, how interesting that um we're getting mainstream about alien"}, {"start": "01:26:27", "end": "01:26:34", "text": "DNA. Yeah. And hybridization potentially. It's flabbergasting. like, yeah, I I'll"}, {"start": "01:26:34", "end": "01:26:40", "text": "look into that because um anything that's similar or, you know, supports what I'm"}, {"start": "01:26:40", "end": "01:26:46", "text": "trying to prove here. Yeah. No, it's interesting, you know, and that obviously brings up"}, {"start": "01:26:46", "end": "01:26:54", "text": "the uh the whole David Jacobs thing, you know, with David Jacobs, he's a you"}, {"start": "01:26:54", "end": "01:26:59", "text": "know, he's done over a thousand hypnotic regression sessions with abductees, a"}, {"start": "01:26:59", "end": "01:27:05", "text": "historian from Temple University. Uh he's written, you know, a plethora of books. I've read through all of them."}, {"start": "01:27:05", "end": "01:27:13", "text": "The threat to Among Us, all the Yeah, it's um it's a heavy topic. It's and it"}, {"start": "01:27:13", "end": "01:27:20", "text": "adds such a strange dimension um to the UFO and abduction"}, {"start": "01:27:20", "end": "01:27:26", "text": "uh phenomenon that a lot of people weren't super prepared for. You know,"}, {"start": "01:27:26", "end": "01:27:32", "text": "you you have guys like Bud Hopkins, John Mack, who saw a more benevolent nature."}, {"start": "01:27:32", "end": "01:27:38", "text": "Yeah. To this. Yeah. And then you had Dr. Jacobs really questioning the motives here. What's"}, {"start": "01:27:38", "end": "01:27:44", "text": "happening? And then from his regressions being told that these this was a program"}, {"start": "01:27:44", "end": "01:27:50", "text": "that they had a some secret agenda of taking over that hybrids and when I say"}, {"start": "01:27:50", "end": "01:27:57", "text": "hybrids it's like a hybrid between a gray alien and what seems like a human. And there are different stages of this"}, {"start": "01:27:57", "end": "01:28:04", "text": "hybridization. The early stage, larger heads, wispy hair. Yeah. The later stage hubids, stage five, are"}, {"start": "01:28:04", "end": "01:28:10", "text": "exactly identical to us. Yeah. Unmistakable. And those would be the ones that live among us, so to speak."}, {"start": "01:28:10", "end": "01:28:16", "text": "Well, the blonde definitely the blonde female that I saw was more human,"}, {"start": "01:28:16", "end": "01:28:22", "text": "but she wasn't perfect. No, not perfect. This these distinct little things that stood out."}, {"start": "01:28:22", "end": "01:28:27", "text": "Yeah. And you'd notice it straight away. It wasn't like, you know, you had to do testing on it."}, {"start": "01:28:27", "end": "01:28:34", "text": "Looking at her, you knew she was a humanoid, but wasn't fully human. It's like a later stage."}, {"start": "01:28:34", "end": "01:28:40", "text": "Yeah, maybe part of that maybe mid-stage hybrid or something. Maybe mid-stage in their program or, you"}, {"start": "01:28:40", "end": "01:28:45", "text": "know, they hadn't perfected it yet, but it was perfect enough, you know, for me to anatomically."}, {"start": "01:28:45", "end": "01:28:51", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's um it's definitely concerning when you hear the amount"}, {"start": "01:28:51", "end": "01:28:58", "text": "again a thousand hypnotic regression sessions with uh Dr. Jacobs. So yeah, when you hear over and over and over"}, {"start": "01:28:58", "end": "01:29:03", "text": "similar stories of encounters with beings that are on on all the spectrum"}, {"start": "01:29:03", "end": "01:29:10", "text": "between a gray and a human, you know, and there's always some type of genetic"}, {"start": "01:29:10", "end": "01:29:16", "text": "exchange involved. That's right. Yeah. you know, whether that's intercourse, whether that's sometimes even just foreplay, or whether"}, {"start": "01:29:16", "end": "01:29:22", "text": "that's uh strictly procedural in like a sort of hospital setting. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:29:22", "end": "01:29:28", "text": "Um, have you are you familiar with uh Jacob's work, Dr. Jacob's work? Sure am. Yeah. And I think it was in one of his books."}, {"start": "01:29:28", "end": "01:29:36", "text": "Um, I hate doing this like something that had a profound impact on me and because"}, {"start": "01:29:36", "end": "01:29:44", "text": "of that, I just didn't want to didn't want to face it head on. I just put it aside because it really affected me. And"}, {"start": "01:29:44", "end": "01:29:50", "text": "um I believe I was I was reading one of his books and I'm my partner and I spent"}, {"start": "01:29:50", "end": "01:29:58", "text": "a week trying to go through I got over 4,000 books in my library and we're trying to find a couple of authors where"}, {"start": "01:29:58", "end": "01:30:04", "text": "I thought and I think Jacobs was one of them where I read in in his book um"}, {"start": "01:30:04", "end": "01:30:09", "text": "where he describes there was some things in there that I was like oh you know"}, {"start": "01:30:09", "end": "01:30:17", "text": "there's a big question marks over it and that and I was questioning the method or so on and then I come across this lady"}, {"start": "01:30:17", "end": "01:30:24", "text": "telling a story and it just rocked me to my core and I actually get emotional"}, {"start": "01:30:24", "end": "01:30:30", "text": "when I talk about it and think about it and you can hear my voice actually starting to change cuz it's affecting me"}, {"start": "01:30:30", "end": "01:30:36", "text": "already. Um, I'm reading his book and I'm got a few"}, {"start": "01:30:36", "end": "01:30:42", "text": "questions, you know, and then I flick to a new chapter and there's this lady and"}, {"start": "01:30:42", "end": "01:30:48", "text": "um, let me get into what I experienced and"}, {"start": "01:30:48", "end": "01:30:57", "text": "why that had an impact on me when I read it. I had an experience where I was taken onto a craft and this craft wasn't"}, {"start": "01:30:57", "end": "01:31:03", "text": "your typical saucer shaped or anything. To me, it looked like a it was a massive"}, {"start": "01:31:03", "end": "01:31:09", "text": "thing. And as we're moving, I could see stars"}, {"start": "01:31:09", "end": "01:31:16", "text": "moving really quickly, like flashing by me. And then we got to a point where there was another object similar to the"}, {"start": "01:31:16", "end": "01:31:24", "text": "one I was in, but it looked like a building. And but they were up in the in the sky. They went on the ground and as"}, {"start": "01:31:24", "end": "01:31:29", "text": "we it was like we were docking against it and as we were I was lying on a table"}, {"start": "01:31:29", "end": "01:31:36", "text": "and I could see the windows. I could see stars going past me and then I see this other building what I thought was a"}, {"start": "01:31:36", "end": "01:31:45", "text": "building uh bright white, very very white and um it had um um long windows"}, {"start": "01:31:45", "end": "01:31:52", "text": "that were very darkly tinted. And as we got closer, I realized, [ __ ] we're"}, {"start": "01:31:52", "end": "01:32:00", "text": "either going to crash against it or we're docking against it, you know? And as that happened, I felt myself travel"}, {"start": "01:32:00", "end": "01:32:06", "text": "through the wall up high on the towards the ceiling and go through the other"}, {"start": "01:32:06", "end": "01:32:12", "text": "building. And now I'm hovering on the on the ceiling looking down. And I'm in"}, {"start": "01:32:12", "end": "01:32:17", "text": "this what looked like a a room and a woman in her bed. And she would have"}, {"start": "01:32:17", "end": "01:32:24", "text": "been, I'd say she looked Italian background or Spanish, uh, in her 40s."}, {"start": "01:32:24", "end": "01:32:31", "text": "She had dark hair, black hair, probably just to her shoulders, maybe a little bit longer. I mean, she was lying down"}, {"start": "01:32:31", "end": "01:32:40", "text": "in her bed. And, um, this is where this really gets me. Um, I started to slowly"}, {"start": "01:32:40", "end": "01:32:47", "text": "and gradually drop down towards her and she's looking at me petrified. Now,"}, {"start": "01:32:47", "end": "01:32:53", "text": "whether aliens got us together and made it happen or she's never experienced"}, {"start": "01:32:53", "end": "01:33:00", "text": "anything like it and is freaking out as she's awake and it's not a dream."}, {"start": "01:33:00", "end": "01:33:06", "text": "And as I get closer and closer as I'm hovering, I'm getting down and I I'm"}, {"start": "01:33:06", "end": "01:33:14", "text": "right on top of her. And at this stage, I'm probably a couple of feet away from her face and I can see her start crying."}, {"start": "01:33:14", "end": "01:33:20", "text": "She really gets me. And I see tears run down her face. And"}, {"start": "01:33:20", "end": "01:33:26", "text": "um as I got closer and closer to her and I was inches from her face"}, {"start": "01:33:26", "end": "01:33:31", "text": "and I remember looking her right in the eyes and she was looking at me petrified"}, {"start": "01:33:31", "end": "01:33:37", "text": "like it just broke me and I remember looking at her"}, {"start": "01:33:37", "end": "01:33:45", "text": "and I could see how weak she was and how vulnerable. And I just looked in her eyes and I mouththed to her. I said to"}, {"start": "01:33:45", "end": "01:33:53", "text": "her, \"I'm so so so sorry.\" and I said so so sorry three times and um"}, {"start": "01:33:53", "end": "01:34:00", "text": "things happened and I knew it wasn't her choice to do it. It wasn't my choice to do it but it"}, {"start": "01:34:00", "end": "01:34:06", "text": "was something that we were forced or bought to do for whatever reason."}, {"start": "01:34:06", "end": "01:34:11", "text": "And then um everything everything's back and I'm back in the other building or"}, {"start": "01:34:11", "end": "01:34:16", "text": "craft or whatever and I'm moving back being taken back. But I could never get"}, {"start": "01:34:16", "end": "01:34:24", "text": "this image out of my mind that this thing happened and this woman was so afraid. [ __ ]"}, {"start": "01:34:25", "end": "01:34:33", "text": "[ __ ] Yeah. just that this she was so vulnerable and so upset"}, {"start": "01:34:33", "end": "01:34:40", "text": "and um it played on my mind for a long long time and then I'm reading this book"}, {"start": "01:34:40", "end": "01:34:45", "text": "and I I'm reading that this woman is laying in her bed and she describes"}, {"start": "01:34:45", "end": "01:34:52", "text": "exactly what happened that a male came down through her roof through the ceiling and he was hovering at the top"}, {"start": "01:34:52", "end": "01:34:57", "text": "of her roof and she was freaking out not knowing what's going on. And then it,"}, {"start": "01:34:57", "end": "01:35:04", "text": "you know, slowly come down closer to her. And she says, \"As he, as he got close to me, she was crying.\" She"}, {"start": "01:35:04", "end": "01:35:10", "text": "describes that she was crying. And then she said"}, {"start": "01:35:10", "end": "01:35:16", "text": "the the man actually while he was inches away from my face, he mouthed, whispered"}, {"start": "01:35:16", "end": "01:35:23", "text": "or mouthed, \"I am so so so sorry.\" And when I read that, it just crushed me. It"}, {"start": "01:35:23", "end": "01:35:30", "text": "could have been someone else. It could have been other people who had who had similar experiences, you know, but I"}, {"start": "01:35:30", "end": "01:35:36", "text": "just related to it so much and I thought it's not [ __ ] fair that"}, {"start": "01:35:36", "end": "01:35:41", "text": "we can do that, you know, to people who aren't willing, you know, they're not"}, {"start": "01:35:41", "end": "01:35:47", "text": "players in this. They're not they haven't given you permission to do that."}, {"start": "01:35:47", "end": "01:35:53", "text": "And that's where I have an issue with if you do that to someone and they end up"}, {"start": "01:35:53", "end": "01:35:58", "text": "having a child from that interaction and they're in a relationship and then later"}, {"start": "01:35:58", "end": "01:36:05", "text": "on DNA testing shows that the father's not it's not their DNA, you know, the"}, {"start": "01:36:05", "end": "01:36:10", "text": "child's not theirs. That woman gets crucified basically or you know"}, {"start": "01:36:10", "end": "01:36:17", "text": "insinuations are that she's had an affair. she's been playing up again, you know, and maybe she hasn't and she's so"}, {"start": "01:36:17", "end": "01:36:24", "text": "innocent in this, but the DNA points to something obviously happening. And that"}, {"start": "01:36:24", "end": "01:36:29", "text": "really really affected me. It's affected me more than my own personal experiences."}, {"start": "01:36:29", "end": "01:36:36", "text": "And lately, the more I talk about it, the more upset I get. I mean, you rightfully you have a right to"}, {"start": "01:36:36", "end": "01:36:42", "text": "be upset about that. You know, people have said to me, \"Why don't you try and find her?\" Uh, why"}, {"start": "01:36:42", "end": "01:36:49", "text": "would I want to do that to someone that could crush their life? Like, you know, she might put it down to a dream, um, a"}, {"start": "01:36:49", "end": "01:36:56", "text": "nightmare, and I'm going to go and I'm going to go and find her and make it real and make it so real that we both have to"}, {"start": "01:36:56", "end": "01:37:03", "text": "deal with something like that. And I'm not ready to do that, you know. And even if I know who she is, I probably"}, {"start": "01:37:03", "end": "01:37:08", "text": "wouldn't go and, you know, be in her face and try and force the issue, you"}, {"start": "01:37:08", "end": "01:37:15", "text": "know. It just confirmed that, yeah, something did happen. But I know exactly what she looked like. If I ever saw her,"}, {"start": "01:37:15", "end": "01:37:21", "text": "she'd probably aged by now, but I I probably I'd recognize her. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:37:21", "end": "01:37:26", "text": "Yeah. Sorry. No, man. Take your time. That Thank you"}, {"start": "01:37:26", "end": "01:37:32", "text": "for opening up. I mean that's clearly not an easy thing to talk"}, {"start": "01:37:32", "end": "01:37:39", "text": "about and that's why I think what you're doing the work you're doing in the support group and creating that type and"}, {"start": "01:37:39", "end": "01:37:46", "text": "I know I know of other support groups that are not public because there's many of them that are not public that are not uh"}, {"start": "01:37:46", "end": "01:37:52", "text": "that are just similar people who found each other through these experiences who just you know they have nowhere else to"}, {"start": "01:37:52", "end": "01:37:57", "text": "turn and it is so rare that anyone you know out there gets to"}, {"start": "01:37:57", "end": "01:38:05", "text": "hear these accounts because these aren't talked about. These are so personal and so so dark that it's not something"}, {"start": "01:38:05", "end": "01:38:10", "text": "you're, you know, not a lot of people are open to sharing. So I want to thank you for sharing that."}, {"start": "01:38:10", "end": "01:38:16", "text": "Yeah. I remember um Bud Hopkins and John McM"}, {"start": "01:38:16", "end": "01:38:23", "text": "like um they had such an impact on my life. But I remember um both of them"}, {"start": "01:38:23", "end": "01:38:29", "text": "making the comment that for someone who's having the experience and hasn't really dealt with it, you know, like I'm"}, {"start": "01:38:29", "end": "01:38:35", "text": "tough enough. I can handle it. It's this sort of thing that crushes me. Um aliens"}, {"start": "01:38:35", "end": "01:38:41", "text": "I can deal with. Do it to me. I don't care. But when you're doing it to my kids"}, {"start": "01:38:41", "end": "01:38:49", "text": "or someone else and and putting this in that situation, it does affect me, you know. Yeah. like"}, {"start": "01:38:49", "end": "01:38:54", "text": "as much as I'm interested in in it, you know, in"}, {"start": "01:38:54", "end": "01:39:00", "text": "that in that thing and um I just don't want it to happen to my"}, {"start": "01:39:00", "end": "01:39:05", "text": "kids. Yeah, of course. you know,"}, {"start": "01:39:05", "end": "01:39:11", "text": "they've asked me not to and recently they've actually um I think because of the divorce and"}, {"start": "01:39:11", "end": "01:39:17", "text": "all that, um they're taking a harder stand and um you know, they've asked me"}, {"start": "01:39:17", "end": "01:39:23", "text": "not to talk about um things about them or so."}, {"start": "01:39:23", "end": "01:39:29", "text": "Yeah, that's fine. Yeah. And we got to respect that too. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:39:29", "end": "01:39:34", "text": "you know those stories and for anyone listening out there who you know hears this and"}, {"start": "01:39:34", "end": "01:39:40", "text": "thinks like what am I listening to what is this like what do you mean there I would I would highly suggest you check"}, {"start": "01:39:40", "end": "01:39:46", "text": "out some of at least uh Dr. David Jacobs books, you know, start with the threat."}, {"start": "01:39:46", "end": "01:39:53", "text": "I think it would give you a broader worldview of what experiencers have gone"}, {"start": "01:39:53", "end": "01:40:02", "text": "through. Um, there is a wide range of this phenomenon that you might not be"}, {"start": "01:40:02", "end": "01:40:07", "text": "aware of because mainstream or, you know, whatever legacy"}, {"start": "01:40:07", "end": "01:40:13", "text": "media, you know, they've only they're talking nuts and bolts. They're talking little green men. there's a whole other"}, {"start": "01:40:13", "end": "01:40:20", "text": "dimension to this and that dimension is, you know, pretty dark and it talks"}, {"start": "01:40:20", "end": "01:40:25", "text": "and it's and and that's not to say it's evil. Um, you know, I don't think there,"}, {"start": "01:40:25", "end": "01:40:32", "text": "you know, it's to to put something in a category I think is dangerous as well. But it's definitely,"}, {"start": "01:40:32", "end": "01:40:40", "text": "you know, lacks any type of human moral um you know um and it deals with a lot"}, {"start": "01:40:40", "end": "01:40:47", "text": "of this hybridization thing happening whether it's human to"}, {"start": "01:40:47", "end": "01:40:54", "text": "human, human to ET. Um you know there's so many different phases of uh this type of thing that's"}, {"start": "01:40:54", "end": "01:40:59", "text": "out there. So I would yeah we got people struggling um to understand"}, {"start": "01:40:59", "end": "01:41:06", "text": "the physical UFO itself. Yeah. You know what it can do, what it can't do. And they try and compare it to our"}, {"start": "01:41:06", "end": "01:41:16", "text": "technology. It's so far advanced that they can do things that, you know, our our military, our best um"}, {"start": "01:41:16", "end": "01:41:22", "text": "um even reverse engineered, so we we just can't do. But that's all they're looking at. They're not looking at why"}, {"start": "01:41:22", "end": "01:41:30", "text": "are they even interacting with us. They're not just interacting with us to show us the UFOs flying around or, you"}, {"start": "01:41:30", "end": "01:41:36", "text": "know, landing or whatever. They're here and their agenda is"}, {"start": "01:41:36", "end": "01:41:42", "text": "completely different than ours. And, you know, we want to prove that, yeah, these UFOs exist. They're solid objects. You"}, {"start": "01:41:42", "end": "01:41:48", "text": "know, they're real. But I think from their point of view,"}, {"start": "01:41:48", "end": "01:41:53", "text": "the objects, the UFOs are the least important part of it. It's what they're"}, {"start": "01:41:53", "end": "01:41:58", "text": "doing with the human race. Y that's making a lot of changes. And I"}, {"start": "01:41:58", "end": "01:42:04", "text": "remember Professor John Mack used to say um he was more interested in the"}, {"start": "01:42:04", "end": "01:42:12", "text": "transpersonal uh uh um the non-physical. Yeah. And and the effect it had and it"}, {"start": "01:42:12", "end": "01:42:20", "text": "transformed people and the way they they thought and it wasn't just because they saw the UFO. it was"}, {"start": "01:42:20", "end": "01:42:25", "text": "the reason for why they're here in the first place. Like they've been I I believe they've been here for thousands"}, {"start": "01:42:25", "end": "01:42:31", "text": "of years and if not from the beginning and um they've been interacting with us"}, {"start": "01:42:31", "end": "01:42:38", "text": "for a long long time and you know there's there's proof that they've been here and they've interacted with people"}, {"start": "01:42:38", "end": "01:42:44", "text": "and like there's cave paintings you know thousands of years old that you they're not faked. you know what people"}, {"start": "01:42:44", "end": "01:42:51", "text": "see they try and depict whether it's in a a rock carving or that you know they"}, {"start": "01:42:51", "end": "01:42:58", "text": "you want to portray image of what you saw and um I think it's been happening for so long um it's just frustrating"}, {"start": "01:42:58", "end": "01:43:03", "text": "that we're still to to try and fully understand what's going on and it's"}, {"start": "01:43:03", "end": "01:43:11", "text": "affecting millions of people around the world it's not just me and I I found that out real quick early on um there"}, {"start": "01:43:11", "end": "01:43:18", "text": "are people that just don't want to talk about it. You know, I think they probably fear it and they're just not"}, {"start": "01:43:18", "end": "01:43:24", "text": "ready to talk about it. They don't want to. Maybe they never will. Yeah. And that's why I decided to go public"}, {"start": "01:43:24", "end": "01:43:29", "text": "with my story. My my original"}, {"start": "01:43:29", "end": "01:43:35", "text": "idea of going public, and I was one of the first Australians to go public um"}, {"start": "01:43:35", "end": "01:43:43", "text": "about abductions. About abductions. Yeah. And um the reason I did that, it wasn't to get a"}, {"start": "01:43:43", "end": "01:43:48", "text": "you know be on a TV show or and I I've actually knocked back so many TV shows."}, {"start": "01:43:48", "end": "01:43:53", "text": "Some of the popular TV shows like we used to have Kerry Anne Kennaly who did"}, {"start": "01:43:53", "end": "01:44:02", "text": "a morning show and invited me on there and I declined and I've declined numerous ones. Um even Rose Mcnam Mc"}, {"start": "01:44:02", "end": "01:44:09", "text": "Mcmanis he used to um he had a very popular show um it was uh a night late"}, {"start": "01:44:09", "end": "01:44:15", "text": "night show he invited me on there as well and unfortunately um his wife passed away 2 weeks before I was"}, {"start": "01:44:15", "end": "01:44:23", "text": "supposed to appear so the whole show got canned he just dropped the whole show's devastated at the loss of his wife um"}, {"start": "01:44:23", "end": "01:44:28", "text": "but there's been a few and it's not me chasing these things to do them I pick"}, {"start": "01:44:28", "end": "01:44:33", "text": "and choose And the reason I started the support group, the reason I went public"}, {"start": "01:44:33", "end": "01:44:40", "text": "was to reach the people who didn't have the voice or the courage to speak up. And I"}, {"start": "01:44:40", "end": "01:44:45", "text": "thought if they hear me talk about my story, hopefully they'll feel confident"}, {"start": "01:44:45", "end": "01:44:51", "text": "enough to talk about theirs. And it has happened. There's been a lot of people I got a message on my phone yesterday"}, {"start": "01:44:51", "end": "01:44:57", "text": "and it said, \"Thank you for being the voice for those who don't have one.\" And"}, {"start": "01:44:57", "end": "01:45:03", "text": "it's it's out of fear. It's out of the ridicule factor. It's out of all that that they don't have a voice. But I'm"}, {"start": "01:45:03", "end": "01:45:08", "text": "hoping, you know, in the future that pe more people will come out and hopefully"}, {"start": "01:45:08", "end": "01:45:14", "text": "have better experiences than mine to put, you know, as evidence and hopefully someone will come forward. As I said to"}, {"start": "01:45:14", "end": "01:45:20", "text": "you, we've had a number of people come forward and say they've got hair samples with and that they had similar"}, {"start": "01:45:20", "end": "01:45:28", "text": "experiences with similar beings. Same beings, a blonde and an Asian female. Very, very similar scenario. and"}, {"start": "01:45:28", "end": "01:45:33", "text": "that they found they found the hair on their private part on their penis as"}, {"start": "01:45:33", "end": "01:45:40", "text": "well and that they removed it and put it in a drawer or dropped it on the ground and they went back and got it."}, {"start": "01:45:40", "end": "01:45:48", "text": "Um hopefully in the future we might get one or two or three or more and um testing isn't cheap, but I think"}, {"start": "01:45:48", "end": "01:45:54", "text": "when these opportunities come up, money is not an option. We should be doing it. I think there are plenty of people out"}, {"start": "01:45:54", "end": "01:46:00", "text": "there willing to fund the testing and the testing has gotten relatively cheap compared to what was I mean we're"}, {"start": "01:46:00", "end": "01:46:05", "text": "talking I think maybe like $1,000 or something to have something used to be a lot more before it used to be a lot more. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:46:05", "end": "01:46:13", "text": "Yeah. And and we get results back you know within within a day. Wow. You know versus uh versus weeks of of"}, {"start": "01:46:13", "end": "01:46:18", "text": "painstaking uh testing. Yeah. Look, sometimes um I say to my"}, {"start": "01:46:18", "end": "01:46:24", "text": "partner um why did they just leave two hairs? You know, why couldn't it been a"}, {"start": "01:46:24", "end": "01:46:30", "text": "clunk of hair or you know, but hey, they left two. They left two. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:46:30", "end": "01:46:36", "text": "One one for you, one for us. Well, that's how it turned out. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, I really honestly"}, {"start": "01:46:36", "end": "01:46:41", "text": "now I don't want this hair destroyed now. Of course. Um I want to keep it. Not that I want to"}, {"start": "01:46:41", "end": "01:46:46", "text": "sell it or um to me it's priceless. you already have the provenence of of you"}, {"start": "01:46:46", "end": "01:46:51", "text": "know the whole chain of custody but also the test results of everything that that hair provided. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:46:51", "end": "01:46:59", "text": "You know so I think that that itself is worth everything you know like I said earlier there is"}, {"start": "01:46:59", "end": "01:47:05", "text": "there is a need to have this you know scientifically backed just for the masses."}, {"start": "01:47:05", "end": "01:47:13", "text": "Yeah. But for someone like yourself you know there's no there's no real need there. And uh for someone like me, I mean, I'm"}, {"start": "01:47:13", "end": "01:47:19", "text": "I'm very blown away by what we've already been able to discover uh with this stuff. Um"}, {"start": "01:47:19", "end": "01:47:25", "text": "you know, I remember Professor John Mack sitting at my house and um"}, {"start": "01:47:25", "end": "01:47:31", "text": "when he had the sample in his hand, never handled it. It was in the bag. It was always in the bag. It never was"}, {"start": "01:47:31", "end": "01:47:38", "text": "taken out of the bag. No one ever touched it. And I remember him holding it and actually looking at me in the"}, {"start": "01:47:38", "end": "01:47:44", "text": "eyes and saying, \"I truly believe this is an alien hair.\" Like he had no"}, {"start": "01:47:44", "end": "01:47:51", "text": "question about it. And John got to know me on a personal level. Um"}, {"start": "01:47:51", "end": "01:47:56", "text": "it started off, you know, he's doing research. It it's a good case. he wanted"}, {"start": "01:47:56", "end": "01:48:02", "text": "to. But as soon as John and I met from the first day, we just hit it off."}, {"start": "01:48:02", "end": "01:48:08", "text": "And we didn't leave each other's side. Like him, John, Dominique, uh Vivian, my"}, {"start": "01:48:08", "end": "01:48:13", "text": "ex and myself, um any free moment they had, any free time,"}, {"start": "01:48:13", "end": "01:48:20", "text": "they were with us, you know, we'd go side singing, we'd do things with my family, and um"}, {"start": "01:48:20", "end": "01:48:28", "text": "yeah, we become close friends. And I think it's it was on the back of um that"}, {"start": "01:48:28", "end": "01:48:34", "text": "I had this experience, but I never tried to push it on him. I never tried to sell it, you know, and and shove it in his"}, {"start": "01:48:34", "end": "01:48:40", "text": "face and this should be tested and all that. As a matter of fact, when we had held the support group workshop, I"}, {"start": "01:48:40", "end": "01:48:47", "text": "didn't talk about my case at all, introduced to everybody else. And then I think I mentioned this yesterday uh on"}, {"start": "01:48:47", "end": "01:48:53", "text": "the way home, he asked me, \"Why did you specifically not mention your case at all? I want to hear about it.\" you know,"}, {"start": "01:48:53", "end": "01:49:00", "text": "I said, \"John, this workshop was for the people who needed it more than I did.\" And um he respected that, you know, he"}, {"start": "01:49:00", "end": "01:49:07", "text": "he found that a bit admirable that of course. Yeah. That I would do something like that. And I mean, your whole your whole"}, {"start": "01:49:07", "end": "01:49:13", "text": "life has been, from what I can tell, filled with a bunch of selfless acts,"}, {"start": "01:49:13", "end": "01:49:19", "text": "you know, from putting your life in danger, uh, stepping in front of someone, helping someone, you know, when they're"}, {"start": "01:49:19", "end": "01:49:25", "text": "in danger, and then now, you know, protecting and giving a voice to these people, you know, and I think that goes"}, {"start": "01:49:25", "end": "01:49:33", "text": "a long way. And I think maybe someone as uh, you know, as brilliant as John Mack was, I think that was easily detected"}, {"start": "01:49:33", "end": "01:49:39", "text": "for him. Yeah. Yeah. Well, as you know, um I have put my body"}, {"start": "01:49:39", "end": "01:49:46", "text": "on the line in um robbery. Yeah. And I had a shotgun to my head like for 7 minutes in an 8m minute robbery. And"}, {"start": "01:49:46", "end": "01:49:51", "text": "um people praised me for it. Um you know, people said I saved their life. I"}, {"start": "01:49:51", "end": "01:49:57", "text": "didn't save their life, but I didn't endanger their life. I think you did save their life. I think I think uh maybe. But"}, {"start": "01:49:57", "end": "01:50:04", "text": "you know, you showed me a letter. So, you showed me a letter yesterday that um that you received from one of the people"}, {"start": "01:50:04", "end": "01:50:09", "text": "that was implicated in this that was one of the hostages. Yeah. Um meanwhile, you were the one who had"}, {"start": "01:50:09", "end": "01:50:15", "text": "the gun to your head and you were keeping everybody calm. And the letter was praising you how, you"}, {"start": "01:50:15", "end": "01:50:20", "text": "know, you were able to take control of the situation even more so than the people holding them hostage."}, {"start": "01:50:20", "end": "01:50:26", "text": "Yeah. And u you know, had the foresight to hit the silent alarm, trigger the silent"}, {"start": "01:50:26", "end": "01:50:31", "text": "alarm without them knowing. Yeah. And then once they stepped out of the building to fill up the car, for whatever reason, you were able to lock"}, {"start": "01:50:31", "end": "01:50:36", "text": "them out of the building as well and thus save everyone's life. There was an addition to that that I"}, {"start": "01:50:36", "end": "01:50:42", "text": "didn't mention to you. When they did go out, um I thought the gunman because I"}, {"start": "01:50:42", "end": "01:50:49", "text": "could see his the way he was holding the shotgun. He cuz he was carrying money as well. I seen the car pull up out the"}, {"start": "01:50:49", "end": "01:50:55", "text": "front of the door of the club and I seen someone jump in the back seat and I thought it was the gunman. And then"}, {"start": "01:50:55", "end": "01:51:01", "text": "there was another guy who had a crowbar and I thought he was still in the club. So when I locked the doors, I was"}, {"start": "01:51:01", "end": "01:51:08", "text": "assuming I'm going to have to deal with this guy. Oh jeez. Yeah. And I thought the gunman's locked outside. I can deal with this guy. And"}, {"start": "01:51:08", "end": "01:51:14", "text": "um then I realized that the guy who jumped in the back of the car was the crowbar guy. Was the crowbar guy and the car took off"}, {"start": "01:51:14", "end": "01:51:21", "text": "and left the gunman behind. I if you if you put that in a movie, it'd be so funny but so dangerous at the"}, {"start": "01:51:21", "end": "01:51:28", "text": "same time. So the guy that was left behind, the gunman, he was pointing the gun through the door. It was a door, an"}, {"start": "01:51:28", "end": "01:51:36", "text": "air lock, and another door. And um you know, I probably would have been, I'd say, 10 10 12 m away from him."}, {"start": "01:51:36", "end": "01:51:43", "text": "And he was pointing the gun at me through the door, the shotgun, saying, \"Open the [ __ ] door and I'm going to shoot you.\" And I was like, \"F you. I'm"}, {"start": "01:51:43", "end": "01:51:50", "text": "not opening nothing.\" And the board of directors, they had a meeting that night and there was a couple of them saying, \"Peter, open the door. He's going to"}, {"start": "01:51:50", "end": "01:51:57", "text": "shoot you.\" And I'm like, \"F him. I'm not going to open the door.\" And then the car came back. He jumped in"}, {"start": "01:51:57", "end": "01:52:04", "text": "the back and they took off. And as they left, drove past the police car, drove past them. Then the police came in and"}, {"start": "01:52:04", "end": "01:52:09", "text": "said to me, \"Oh, you're going to get upset. We had to let them go.\" They didn't even try to stop them, you know."}, {"start": "01:52:09", "end": "01:52:15", "text": "No way. Yeah. They had to let him go. And um I struggled with that because I thought"}, {"start": "01:52:15", "end": "01:52:23", "text": "I'll put my life on the line. Yeah. You know, and then the cops who are fully armed and trained just let them go, you"}, {"start": "01:52:23", "end": "01:52:29", "text": "know. Well, you did um you kept calm during a very very high stress situation."}, {"start": "01:52:29", "end": "01:52:35", "text": "Yeah. Um do you think part of your experiences with the phenomenon had prepared you for"}, {"start": "01:52:35", "end": "01:52:41", "text": "that in some way? Yeah. Yeah. I I think my training and"}, {"start": "01:52:41", "end": "01:52:48", "text": "background did bit of martial arts and um"}, {"start": "01:52:48", "end": "01:52:55", "text": "I lived a bit of you know hard life early on pro probably from the age of about 18 to 25."}, {"start": "01:52:55", "end": "01:53:03", "text": "Yeah. Um I'd been through some crazy situations and survived it and um yeah I"}, {"start": "01:53:03", "end": "01:53:10", "text": "think that gave me strength to you know deal with the other stuff. Yeah. And I've I've had shock I've had a"}, {"start": "01:53:10", "end": "01:53:18", "text": "shotgun to my head. I've had a revolver to my head. And I've different scenarios here. And I've had a um a pistol to my"}, {"start": "01:53:18", "end": "01:53:24", "text": "head. And I can tell you one was for 45. And uh one was a revolver."}, {"start": "01:53:24", "end": "01:53:31", "text": "And um the one who pulled the pistol out wicked me. He put it to my head and I"}, {"start": "01:53:31", "end": "01:53:37", "text": "thought, \"Uh-oh, last breath.\" But luckily for me, he wasn't, you know, strong enough to pull the trigger. He"}, {"start": "01:53:37", "end": "01:53:44", "text": "was just a showman and he hit me with the butt of the gun on the back of my head and I was like, \"Yeah, you're soft."}, {"start": "01:53:44", "end": "01:53:51", "text": "You're not, you know, you haven't got it in you.\" Thank God. Yeah. And um you know, they 12 of his"}, {"start": "01:53:51", "end": "01:53:58", "text": "friends attacked my car. And um Yeah. Um mate, I did nothing wrong other than"}, {"start": "01:53:58", "end": "01:54:03", "text": "park outside his shop and order a hamburger from the shop next door. And this guy was thought he owned the"}, {"start": "01:54:03", "end": "01:54:09", "text": "whole um road. It's a public road and he tapped on his window and he said to me,"}, {"start": "01:54:09", "end": "01:54:15", "text": "\"You 5 minutes touch his watch.\" Goes, \"Five minutes move.\" And I was thinking, \"Is he talking to me?\" Like, why would"}, {"start": "01:54:15", "end": "01:54:23", "text": "he talk to me? So, I ordered the hamburger. I sat on the front of my car and I had one bite of this hamburger and"}, {"start": "01:54:23", "end": "01:54:29", "text": "I get another tap on the window and there's 12 guys sitting in there with him. He was their boss. And I'm like,"}, {"start": "01:54:29", "end": "01:54:35", "text": "I'm looking around me, you know, why the street signs didn't say no parking. There was no reason."}, {"start": "01:54:35", "end": "01:54:42", "text": "And then he taps his watch again. He goes over. 5 minutes over. So stupid me."}, {"start": "01:54:42", "end": "01:54:47", "text": "I'm not scared of of that. I walked into the shop with all his 12 mates and I"}, {"start": "01:54:47", "end": "01:54:54", "text": "walked straight up to him at his desk and he had his feet up on the desk, you know, being a big man. And I said,"}, {"start": "01:54:54", "end": "01:55:00", "text": "\"Mate, are you talking to me?\" And he goes, \"Yeah, I told you before 5 minutes you need to move your car.\" And I said,"}, {"start": "01:55:00", "end": "01:55:05", "text": "\"Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm going to use a bit of language here.\" I said, \"When did your father die and you inherited"}, {"start": "01:55:05", "end": "01:55:10", "text": "Canbury Road? You dumb piece of shit.\" And as soon as I said that, he opened"}, {"start": "01:55:10", "end": "01:55:16", "text": "the drawer, pulled out a material bag, which is a bank bag to take your cash there"}, {"start": "01:55:16", "end": "01:55:22", "text": "and pulled out a 45. Yeah. Cocked it and just walked up and put it straight to my head. So, I wasn't going"}, {"start": "01:55:22", "end": "01:55:28", "text": "to be stupid. I walked out the shop. Mhm. And I went outside. And as soon as I He had it, as I'm walking through the shop,"}, {"start": "01:55:28", "end": "01:55:35", "text": "he had it to the back of my head. And I'm thinking this is my last breath, you know. And as I walked out, as I stepped off"}, {"start": "01:55:35", "end": "01:55:40", "text": "the foot path onto the road to go to my door and get in my car, he hit me with the butt of the gun."}, {"start": "01:55:40", "end": "01:55:46", "text": "Clocked. And as soon as he did that, I thought, \"You're soft. You haven't got it in you, mate. You're just showing off.\""}, {"start": "01:55:46", "end": "01:55:51", "text": "Yeah, that's what he was doing. But lucky luckily for me, luckily for you, he was lucky for me. He was just showing off."}, {"start": "01:55:51", "end": "01:55:58", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. That's that that's the type of stuff that'll uh"}, {"start": "01:55:58", "end": "01:56:05", "text": "you know you I mean man those are all pretty traumatizing events from from you know"}, {"start": "01:56:05", "end": "01:56:10", "text": "getting clocked over the head multiple times with a shovel to having a gun to your head"}, {"start": "01:56:10", "end": "01:56:18", "text": "to like then having the ET experiences out of all of those which has been the"}, {"start": "01:56:18", "end": "01:56:23", "text": "most traumatic. It's got to be the ET stuff, right? Um,"}, {"start": "01:56:23", "end": "01:56:29", "text": "other than that 2008 experience with the female. Mhm. Um,"}, {"start": "01:56:29", "end": "01:56:35", "text": "I can handle the ET stuff. Really? Yeah. Yeah. And you know what? People say to me, \"Oh, are you scared it'll"}, {"start": "01:56:35", "end": "01:56:41", "text": "happen again?\" No. It's like a learning curve for me. And um, not every human on"}, {"start": "01:56:41", "end": "01:56:48", "text": "this planet can say they've having those interactions. No. Yeah. So, it I'm not scared of it. I'm"}, {"start": "01:56:48", "end": "01:56:54", "text": "not scared of the ET stuff. Well, maybe that's why maybe that's why you were chosen. You think?"}, {"start": "01:56:54", "end": "01:56:59", "text": "Maybe. Maybe. Because there is something, man. I got to say, there is something about you"}, {"start": "01:56:59", "end": "01:57:06", "text": "having conscious memory. Yeah. That's That's not something you hear about very often with this stuff. They"}, {"start": "01:57:06", "end": "01:57:12", "text": "don't like to leave. They don't like to make mistakes, these things, it seems like. And they don't make very many. No, they don't. But they've made a few."}, {"start": "01:57:12", "end": "01:57:18", "text": "Yeah. And if they do, it it's I would assume it's anomalous. And so I would assume"}, {"start": "01:57:18", "end": "01:57:24", "text": "there's something with you that you know prevented that type of um whatever that"}, {"start": "01:57:24", "end": "01:57:29", "text": "is that that sedation that they do or the you know"}, {"start": "01:57:29", "end": "01:57:36", "text": "switching you off. Yeah. The the cognizant sort of like dampening of your spirit or mind or whatever that is and"}, {"start": "01:57:36", "end": "01:57:42", "text": "they they shut you off like there's something that didn't work. And you know it reminds me of Travis Walton who we had here as you know a few weeks ago."}, {"start": "01:57:42", "end": "01:57:48", "text": "Yeah. And uh Travis having being beamed by this craft because he got too close."}, {"start": "01:57:48", "end": "01:57:55", "text": "Yeah. Woke up in excruciating head pain and chest pain, thought he was dying. Yeah. Didn't know how long he's been there."}, {"start": "01:57:55", "end": "01:58:01", "text": "And now faced with these beings, you know, terrified, yelling at them, fending them off."}, {"start": "01:58:01", "end": "01:58:08", "text": "They weren't able to psychically or otherwise wipe his man. Yeah. Or or keep them down. Yeah. and"}, {"start": "01:58:08", "end": "01:58:14", "text": "then, you know, making his way to the other room, getting stopped by these humanoid um"}, {"start": "01:58:14", "end": "01:58:22", "text": "these humanoid looking sort of aliens, I guess. Um they grab him and them also"}, {"start": "01:58:22", "end": "01:58:27", "text": "there was there was they had to use like an analog sedation on him,"}, {"start": "01:58:27", "end": "01:58:34", "text": "you know, they had to put something over his mouth so that he passed out. And again, like he even thinks that he reckons that maybe"}, {"start": "01:58:34", "end": "01:58:41", "text": "whatever hit him messed his brain or did something where it interfered with their"}, {"start": "01:58:41", "end": "01:58:48", "text": "ability, whatever that is, whether that's tech, psychic, whatever that is, psionic, um to to put him under"}, {"start": "01:58:48", "end": "01:58:55", "text": "to put him. Yeah. Look, h I I spoke to Travis and I'm sure if uh"}, {"start": "01:58:55", "end": "01:59:01", "text": "Travis if he meets me and he's he remembers trip to Queensland or what we"}, {"start": "01:59:01", "end": "01:59:06", "text": "went through. It was a funny trip, but um we were in the car talking and it was"}, {"start": "01:59:06", "end": "01:59:14", "text": "myself, Travis, and his ex um Dana. Um she was sitting in the back seat and um"}, {"start": "01:59:14", "end": "01:59:20", "text": "we're talking about my experience and I'm you know being bluntly honest with him about everything that happened to"}, {"start": "01:59:20", "end": "01:59:25", "text": "me. He's probably one of the first people other than Bill and that that I"}, {"start": "01:59:25", "end": "01:59:33", "text": "really opened up to and I wanted him to know my whole story, you know. And as we were sitting there driving and"}, {"start": "01:59:33", "end": "01:59:40", "text": "um look, he'll attest to this. I I asked him I said, \"Can I ask you one question"}, {"start": "01:59:40", "end": "01:59:45", "text": "about your story?\" And he said, \"Yep, you've been telling me about yours. You're welcome. Ask me.\" I said, \"Do you"}, {"start": "01:59:45", "end": "01:59:51", "text": "think you were fatally wounded and that's why they took you for 5 days or a"}, {"start": "01:59:51", "end": "01:59:57", "text": "longer period than usual?\" And he actually had a re a tear run down his"}, {"start": "01:59:57", "end": "02:00:04", "text": "face. And Dana put a hand on my shoulder and she said, \"He doesn't talk about this to too many people.\" And Travis"}, {"start": "02:00:04", "end": "02:00:10", "text": "looked over at me and he said, \"Yeah, I think it was.\" And they had to work on me to get me back. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:00:10", "end": "02:00:15", "text": "I don't know if he shared I think he has lately shared Yeah, he did share that. And that's something he only came to terms with"}, {"start": "02:00:15", "end": "02:00:20", "text": "publicly later on upon, you know, years of reflection."}, {"start": "02:00:20", "end": "02:00:27", "text": "Yeah. I knew that early on. I knew that the reason he was taken for so long was to get him back."}, {"start": "02:00:27", "end": "02:00:33", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Cuz like he said, he's like otherwise they could have dumped me on a meteor somewhere. like what's the point"}, {"start": "02:00:33", "end": "02:00:39", "text": "of bringing me back, you know? So, he's like there had to be they could have dumped him in the area"}, {"start": "02:00:39", "end": "02:00:44", "text": "where he went missing and Yeah. or just left him. And then people dumped him at people in his crew would have been probably"}, {"start": "02:00:44", "end": "02:00:49", "text": "charged with murder or They almost were they almost were Yeah, they almost were had he not returned."}, {"start": "02:00:49", "end": "02:00:56", "text": "Yeah. For whatever reason, had he not been found, that's what would have happened. That's what would have happened. Yeah. And that that was from the investigation"}, {"start": "02:00:56", "end": "02:01:03", "text": "from day one was focusing on getting these guys blamed for it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy."}, {"start": "02:01:03", "end": "02:01:08", "text": "Yeah. Coming up on 50 years, that story, too. It's hard to believe."}, {"start": "02:01:08", "end": "02:01:14", "text": "Yeah. And end of this year, isn't it? Yeah. November November 5th, 1975."}, {"start": "02:01:14", "end": "02:01:20", "text": "You know what what sort of blows me away a little bit? I had my experience 88 92"}, {"start": "02:01:20", "end": "02:01:27", "text": "and then I talk about my childhood stuff, which that was been the background, so to speak. But this DNA"}, {"start": "02:01:27", "end": "02:01:33", "text": "case and that book was uh published 2005, I believe. Mhm. Um,"}, {"start": "02:01:33", "end": "02:01:40", "text": "it just boggles my mind that it's taken 33 years for the American scene."}, {"start": "02:01:40", "end": "02:01:47", "text": "Yeah. To get on to get onto this case. And I get questioned now like it"}, {"start": "02:01:47", "end": "02:01:53", "text": "happened yesterday. And I tell them, it happened 33 years ago. Where have you been? Like some of them don't even know about"}, {"start": "02:01:53", "end": "02:01:59", "text": "it. Yeah. And a lot of people out there in the field haven't heard of my case. And it"}, {"start": "02:01:59", "end": "02:02:05", "text": "boggles Bill's mind because he says to me it was in the IU article and apparently that was the highest selling"}, {"start": "02:02:05", "end": "02:02:11", "text": "IU article in the history. Um he's got his book and he still says people get"}, {"start": "02:02:11", "end": "02:02:16", "text": "the story wrong when they when they're telling it. And um some of them say they don't even"}, {"start": "02:02:16", "end": "02:02:24", "text": "know about it. He was talking to sorry was it Jerome Clark? Um I think it"}, {"start": "02:02:24", "end": "02:02:31", "text": "was yeah he wrote the UFO encyclopedia and um"}, {"start": "02:02:31", "end": "02:02:37", "text": "Bill was blown away that when he was talking to him recently he goes oh just remind me about that case again you know"}, {"start": "02:02:37", "end": "02:02:43", "text": "and he said every researcher should know this. Yeah, this is one of those that I"}, {"start": "02:02:43", "end": "02:02:48", "text": "I highly recommend anyone, you know, read Hair of the Alien by Bill Chocker."}, {"start": "02:02:48", "end": "02:02:53", "text": "Also, you got a book coming out that you're writing. I hope so. I've been writing it for a"}, {"start": "02:02:53", "end": "02:02:58", "text": "couple of years now, and you never want to rush a book until you feel good. Um,"}, {"start": "02:02:58", "end": "02:03:04", "text": "I think you should write a book. I think I'm surprised that you haven't. Well, the reason I haven't is because every"}, {"start": "02:03:04", "end": "02:03:10", "text": "time I'm speaking to people, um, I hear the comments, you know, people calling"}, {"start": "02:03:10", "end": "02:03:17", "text": "in or whatever, and they're like, \"All right, you know, he's just doing it to write a book and make money.\" Grifter or all those stupid comments,"}, {"start": "02:03:17", "end": "02:03:23", "text": "you don't worry about those. So, I really didn't want to give him ammunition and, you know, you know, the people, here's what I"}, {"start": "02:03:23", "end": "02:03:28", "text": "always say, the people who go, \"Oh, he's just trying to sell a book.\" You just told me without telling me that you"}, {"start": "02:03:28", "end": "02:03:34", "text": "don't read. Because when I hear somebody's coming out with a book, I go, \"Oh, yay, another book.\" Yeah."}, {"start": "02:03:34", "end": "02:03:39", "text": "Cuz I read and I like reading. That's right. Yeah. So people who go, \"Oh, not another book.\" That's you're just telling the"}, {"start": "02:03:39", "end": "02:03:45", "text": "world that you don't read books read books because I get excited for a new book. And I mean, who wouldn't want to hear it"}, {"start": "02:03:45", "end": "02:03:50", "text": "from the horse's mouth, of course, instead of, you know, reading somebody that's written about it."}, {"start": "02:03:50", "end": "02:03:57", "text": "And it's been written in in a number of books that are coming out now. And I'm surprised at how wrong they get"}, {"start": "02:03:57", "end": "02:04:03", "text": "things. Yeah. Bill's got it pretty right. got it free, right? Um, I would also argue that if you are a"}, {"start": "02:04:03", "end": "02:04:08", "text": "skeptic out there and you do like reading, right, but you're like, \"Oh, I can't"}, {"start": "02:04:08", "end": "02:04:14", "text": "believe this stuff.\" Fine. You know what? Get a book and read it as if it was fiction. Just read it as if it was"}, {"start": "02:04:14", "end": "02:04:20", "text": "fiction. I guarantee you it'll still be entertaining. Yeah. And who knows, by the end of it, you might change your mind."}, {"start": "02:04:20", "end": "02:04:25", "text": "You might change your mind. Exactly. All right, Peter, I'm going to get uh we"}, {"start": "02:04:25", "end": "02:04:30", "text": "got some questions from the audience. Yeah. So, I got a few of them lined up. I'm going to go turn on this camera back here."}, {"start": "02:04:30", "end": "02:04:36", "text": "And let's just touch on that high Oh, the high strangest stuff. And I do"}, {"start": "02:04:36", "end": "02:04:42", "text": "want to touch base on the scratches and that I my body and Okay."}, {"start": "02:04:42", "end": "02:04:47", "text": "This is physical. This is, you know, evidence-based. It's Well, let's do this now. We can get to questions later. They're not going anywhere."}, {"start": "02:04:47", "end": "02:04:53", "text": "Okay. Yeah. Um, in 2025,"}, {"start": "02:04:53", "end": "02:04:59", "text": "uh, sorry, in 2020, I should say, and that was the year my dad passed. Um, in"}, {"start": "02:04:59", "end": "02:05:04", "text": "2020, I, um, I worked in security at a"}, {"start": "02:05:04", "end": "02:05:11", "text": "um, New Year's Eve event. I went home. I probably finished about 1:30, 2:00. Got"}, {"start": "02:05:11", "end": "02:05:16", "text": "home, sat down. I'd take a couple hours to wind down. You know, I might have to read or watch a bit of TV. I can't just"}, {"start": "02:05:16", "end": "02:05:23", "text": "get home, put my, you know, clothes on, just change and go to bed. So, it was I"}, {"start": "02:05:23", "end": "02:05:30", "text": "never forget this. It was 4:45 and I've documented it. I even rang my niece at that time and I said to her, \"If"}, {"start": "02:05:30", "end": "02:05:35", "text": "something happens to me, I didn't do it to myself. I'm not selfharming.\""}, {"start": "02:05:35", "end": "02:05:42", "text": "But as I'm sitting there, um, I had shorts on. I was wearing shorts and I was watching TV and it was 4:55 in the"}, {"start": "02:05:42", "end": "02:05:49", "text": "morning and um I felt a burning sensation like really bad burning"}, {"start": "02:05:49", "end": "02:05:55", "text": "sensation on uh my right leg and I've got a couple of tattoos on on my ankles"}, {"start": "02:05:55", "end": "02:06:02", "text": "on my calf. Um I got two on my back and that but um as I'm sitting there I felt"}, {"start": "02:06:02", "end": "02:06:09", "text": "on the inside of my um ankle I felt really bad burning like"}, {"start": "02:06:09", "end": "02:06:14", "text": "you know, it was like acid acid burn. And um I rubbed my hand up and down. I"}, {"start": "02:06:14", "end": "02:06:20", "text": "thought, \"What the hell is this?\" You know, and I looked and I couldn't see anything when I looked at my leg. But"}, {"start": "02:06:20", "end": "02:06:26", "text": "when I touched my hand, if I felt it felt wet, you know, there was moisture"}, {"start": "02:06:26", "end": "02:06:31", "text": "and I didn't see much. And I thought, \"Oh, okay.\" And then as I looked down, I"}, {"start": "02:06:31", "end": "02:06:36", "text": "see a scratch starting. And I've got a UFO tattoo. It's like a Carduni UFO"}, {"start": "02:06:36", "end": "02:06:41", "text": "tattoo on the inside of my ankle and halfway through that like right in the"}, {"start": "02:06:41", "end": "02:06:50", "text": "middle of of that started under it and went all the way up and it probably went, you know, three 2 or 3 in above."}, {"start": "02:06:50", "end": "02:06:58", "text": "And as I'm watching this, I'm watching this scratch come up my leg. And once I got my my phone out to film it, I reckon"}, {"start": "02:06:58", "end": "02:07:03", "text": "I filmed about maybe 2 to 5 mil of movement and then it stopped. And I"}, {"start": "02:07:03", "end": "02:07:10", "text": "thought, \"Oh jeez, what is this?\" And within less than a minute, I felt uh on"}, {"start": "02:07:10", "end": "02:07:16", "text": "the inside of my knee, my right leg, I felt burning sensation again. And when I"}, {"start": "02:07:16", "end": "02:07:22", "text": "looked, I saw massive scratches and it went all the way down my leg. So I had a"}, {"start": "02:07:22", "end": "02:07:30", "text": "scratch through my UFO tattoo. I had a scratch all the way up the side of my thigh and then on the top of like on my"}, {"start": "02:07:30", "end": "02:07:36", "text": "knee just on the side of my knee. This is three different times in about a couple of minutes where I felt this"}, {"start": "02:07:36", "end": "02:07:42", "text": "burning sensation. And when I'd look I'd see a massive scratch and these"}, {"start": "02:07:42", "end": "02:07:47", "text": "scratches were were odd. It was like someone said to me they look like Morse code"}, {"start": "02:07:47", "end": "02:07:54", "text": "because it's a long line of dot. Long line of dot. Yeah. Yeah. Whoa. Oh, have you I've got photos. I've I think I've sent"}, {"start": "02:07:54", "end": "02:08:00", "text": "them to you. Yeah. Have you ever tried deciphering them? No, I haven't. Oh, maybe I'll try. Maybe throw it into chatb."}, {"start": "02:08:00", "end": "02:08:08", "text": "You never know. But um yeah, so my whole left leg the next day was just it looked like it had"}, {"start": "02:08:08", "end": "02:08:13", "text": "been slashed. Yeah. And um this is this was on your bed, you said, or was"}, {"start": "02:08:13", "end": "02:08:19", "text": "No, this is in the lounge room. I'm just sitting on the couch. I'm in the TV room watching my TV and I"}, {"start": "02:08:19", "end": "02:08:25", "text": "felt burnt. I went, whoa, what's that? What year was this? Uh 2020. 2020. All right. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:08:25", "end": "02:08:32", "text": "First of the 1st. Yeah. 2020 at 4:55 in the morning. So the first day of the year at, you"}, {"start": "02:08:32", "end": "02:08:37", "text": "know, 5 to 5 in the morning. That year in September on my son's"}, {"start": "02:08:37", "end": "02:08:43", "text": "birthday, the 21st, my dad passed away. So"}, {"start": "02:08:43", "end": "02:08:48", "text": "um yeah. Anyway, um now uh 2024 last"}, {"start": "02:08:48", "end": "02:08:57", "text": "year um I'm my partner, my new girlfriend was sitting next to me in the lounge room. We're sitting there and um"}, {"start": "02:08:57", "end": "02:09:04", "text": "again I um I felt burn the burning sensation and I said, \"Hey babe, I'm feeling that burning"}, {"start": "02:09:04", "end": "02:09:10", "text": "again, you know.\" And she goes, \"Oh, let me have a look.\" And she was blown away. She actually saw"}, {"start": "02:09:10", "end": "02:09:16", "text": "the scratch as it's traveling up my leg. and she got a phone to film it and as"}, {"start": "02:09:16", "end": "02:09:22", "text": "soon as she put it to it, it it stopped. But I got I'd say it was three or four scratches,"}, {"start": "02:09:22", "end": "02:09:28", "text": "but the odd thing, the funniest thing that I've found, it happened on the first of the first."}, {"start": "02:09:28", "end": "02:09:35", "text": "Oh, yeah. One was at 2020 and this was the same date. It was probably about half an"}, {"start": "02:09:35", "end": "02:09:41", "text": "hour difference in time. Yeah. So, I think it was just past 5:00, 20 5"}, {"start": "02:09:41", "end": "02:09:47", "text": "or something. But she was sitting next to me and she was watching these scratches appear on my leg."}, {"start": "02:09:47", "end": "02:09:52", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. What do you suppose that is? Look, at first when it first happened, I"}, {"start": "02:09:52", "end": "02:09:58", "text": "thought, had I been standing up too much at work and I got inflammation or, you"}, {"start": "02:09:58", "end": "02:10:06", "text": "know, something like that. But it wasn't. Definitely wasn't. And then when it happened 4 years later, my fear was"}, {"start": "02:10:06", "end": "02:10:11", "text": "that, oh my god, is my mom something going to happen to my mom? you know, uh"}, {"start": "02:10:11", "end": "02:10:18", "text": "cuz my dad passed away when I had that in early in the year, right? And um I went and seen my mom a couple"}, {"start": "02:10:18", "end": "02:10:23", "text": "of days ago and she's not looking the best. So, I'm hoping we can get through"}, {"start": "02:10:23", "end": "02:10:29", "text": "and you know, nothing happens and but yeah, I've had these these strange"}, {"start": "02:10:29", "end": "02:10:34", "text": "things that have happened to me. Um, I had a"}, {"start": "02:10:34", "end": "02:10:40", "text": "on my on my back on my shoulder blade on this on the left side. I had once again"}, {"start": "02:10:40", "end": "02:10:47", "text": "I got this burning sensation and I was like, \"What the hell?\" And when I had a look, it was like a bite mark."}, {"start": "02:10:47", "end": "02:10:52", "text": "Wow. Like you can actually see the shape of a a mouth, a bite mark. That's so strange."}, {"start": "02:10:52", "end": "02:10:58", "text": "And I'm sure I sent you those photos again. You're welcome to to use them if you want to include them in the when you"}, {"start": "02:10:58", "end": "02:11:05", "text": "do all this. Yeah, we'll do. Yeah. Um, I've heard of that. I've heard of, you know, there's a"}, {"start": "02:11:05", "end": "02:11:10", "text": "lot of cases of this sort of poltergeist sort of activity. And I call it"}, {"start": "02:11:10", "end": "02:11:15", "text": "poltergeist because there's there's no other real term for it. It's a phantom"}, {"start": "02:11:15", "end": "02:11:25", "text": "sort of something that leaves physical trace, physical markings. And you know"}, {"start": "02:11:25", "end": "02:11:30", "text": "that is I think where your case your you know the later case actually"}, {"start": "02:11:30", "end": "02:11:38", "text": "intersects between the physical and the non-physical again because you know to go back to this for a second."}, {"start": "02:11:38", "end": "02:11:44", "text": "Um had you not had the DNA evidence"}, {"start": "02:11:44", "end": "02:11:50", "text": "I wouldn't have gone public. You wouldn't have gone public and I wouldn't have blamed you. I think any"}, {"start": "02:11:50", "end": "02:11:56", "text": "and that's there's and it just begs the question how many people out there Yeah."}, {"start": "02:11:56", "end": "02:12:01", "text": "have dismissed what happened to them either because the lack of evidence or"}, {"start": "02:12:01", "end": "02:12:07", "text": "because over time you just kind of go maybe it was in my head or maybe you know what I mean you rationalize things"}, {"start": "02:12:07", "end": "02:12:14", "text": "as they as time moves on your memory fades and you kind of your brain has to make sense of it so it starts making up"}, {"start": "02:12:14", "end": "02:12:21", "text": "its own reality. But there is a a weird intersection and even John Mack talks"}, {"start": "02:12:21", "end": "02:12:26", "text": "about this too that like you know people are barely ready for the physical. Wait till they hear about the non-physical"}, {"start": "02:12:26", "end": "02:12:32", "text": "[ __ ] that happens. Yeah. Um because not only is there a non-physical"}, {"start": "02:12:32", "end": "02:12:39", "text": "very very present uh phenomenon that happens during abduction specifically"}, {"start": "02:12:39", "end": "02:12:47", "text": "even your brother seeing your soul being transported out of the room. this type of astral body seems to be abducted just"}, {"start": "02:12:47", "end": "02:12:56", "text": "as much as the physical, if not more, if not more. Yeah. Um, but then there is this weird overlap"}, {"start": "02:12:56", "end": "02:13:02", "text": "of when the non-physical affects the physical. That's right. You had this sitting up moment on your"}, {"start": "02:13:02", "end": "02:13:07", "text": "bed where you come into yourself. Yeah. You know, and then you see these beings and who knows what they were"}, {"start": "02:13:07", "end": "02:13:13", "text": "doing if they were interacting with your soul body or your physical body or I I truly believe that they were"}, {"start": "02:13:13", "end": "02:13:19", "text": "Yeah. that there was some type of and they lost control at one stage when I became one."}, {"start": "02:13:19", "end": "02:13:27", "text": "Yeah. It was physical. Yeah. And then maybe it made them physical or something. Yeah. It just put them off their routine"}, {"start": "02:13:27", "end": "02:13:32", "text": "because even then they disappear as if they were non-physical. That's right. Yeah. They vanish out of"}, {"start": "02:13:32", "end": "02:13:38", "text": "the blue. I didn't I don't know how they came into my room and I don't know how they ded. And so there is like a non-physical to"}, {"start": "02:13:38", "end": "02:13:43", "text": "physical quality and then it goes back to non-physical and it's this sort of weird but then you're left with physical"}, {"start": "02:13:43", "end": "02:13:49", "text": "evidence and and the most evidence people have when it comes to this stuff"}, {"start": "02:13:49", "end": "02:13:55", "text": "is normally bodily harm. Physical markings. Yeah. Scoop marks. Scoop marks. Scratches. Uh things like"}, {"start": "02:13:55", "end": "02:14:01", "text": "this. Bruises even burns. Uh you know radiation burns."}, {"start": "02:14:01", "end": "02:14:09", "text": "um you know, sickness, implants, like all these different things. But yeah, never never actual DNA. That's"}, {"start": "02:14:09", "end": "02:14:17", "text": "just that's just And talking about implants, Yeah. U from my 88 experience when I Yeah. I"}, {"start": "02:14:17", "end": "02:14:23", "text": "had something injected in here. Mhm. Um it was 1992 uh when I had the head"}, {"start": "02:14:23", "end": "02:14:29", "text": "injury and I was looking at getting some CAT scan. the next day, actually that very next day, I was going to go get a"}, {"start": "02:14:29", "end": "02:14:36", "text": "CAT scan. And um I honestly believe they played a role in"}, {"start": "02:14:36", "end": "02:14:42", "text": "saving my life cuz I had my injuries were life-threatening injuries. It"}, {"start": "02:14:42", "end": "02:14:47", "text": "wasn't just a scratch. And um"}, {"start": "02:14:48", "end": "02:14:56", "text": "they to me I feel like"}, {"start": "02:14:57", "end": "02:15:02", "text": "that whatever was implanted in there the night before I was sitting down with"}, {"start": "02:15:02", "end": "02:15:07", "text": "Vivian in the lounge room and I was just I don't know why but I was just touching"}, {"start": "02:15:07", "end": "02:15:14", "text": "the area and I'm thinking, \"Oh, I'm going to do a CAT scan. I'm claustrophobic. I hate going through those CT scans."}, {"start": "02:15:14", "end": "02:15:21", "text": "And I'm touching it, you know, and all of a sudden I felt like a wire, like steel wool, you know, just pricking my"}, {"start": "02:15:21", "end": "02:15:27", "text": "finger. And I was like, \"Wow, what is that?\" You know, it's in my head. And I said to Vivian, I said, \"Can you have a"}, {"start": "02:15:27", "end": "02:15:32", "text": "look? There's something there like a wire.\" She had a look. She couldn't see anything. And then she felt and she's"}, {"start": "02:15:32", "end": "02:15:38", "text": "gone, \"Oh, she like it's it it pricked her, you know, and she was like, \"Oh.\" She reacted to it. She's like, \"Oh my"}, {"start": "02:15:38", "end": "02:15:44", "text": "god.\" She goes, \"You got like a there's a wire there.\" She said, \"An antenna.\" She actually said, \"It looks like it"}, {"start": "02:15:44", "end": "02:15:50", "text": "feels like an antenna, but it's sharp.\" And as I was sitting there, um I had the coffee table in front of me. And I was"}, {"start": "02:15:50", "end": "02:15:56", "text": "sitting there and I just kept picking at it. Just I I just I don't know. It annoyed me. And I just kept picking at"}, {"start": "02:15:56", "end": "02:16:03", "text": "it. Kept picking at it. And then we both saw it. It was big as a match head, I'd say. We saw it fall, hit the coffee"}, {"start": "02:16:03", "end": "02:16:09", "text": "table. We heard the sound it made and then it bounced off and landed on the carpet. Like a metallic sound."}, {"start": "02:16:09", "end": "02:16:15", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. We had a um and it fell on the carpet. It fell on the carpet in the carpet and"}, {"start": "02:16:15", "end": "02:16:20", "text": "we had shaggy carpet at the time, but that's before we renovated and cleaned the carpet and Yeah."}, {"start": "02:16:20", "end": "02:16:26", "text": "And um it was frustrating because we couldn't see it. It you vacuumed."}, {"start": "02:16:26", "end": "02:16:31", "text": "We knew where Yeah. So we went I went and got a little vacuum. I put a tissue on the front of it on the nozzle of it"}, {"start": "02:16:31", "end": "02:16:38", "text": "and I tried to, you know, see if we can get it out of there. I mean, because it had wire or some that"}, {"start": "02:16:38", "end": "02:16:45", "text": "whatever tricked me. I reckon it got stuck in the carpet and it was hard to come out or it disintegrated. I don't know. But"}, {"start": "02:16:45", "end": "02:16:50", "text": "we were never We both saw it hit the table and bounced onto the carpet, but"}, {"start": "02:16:50", "end": "02:16:56", "text": "we couldn't find exactly where it landed. And um That's interesting."}, {"start": "02:16:56", "end": "02:17:02", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. It's it's interesting because it's like again echoing"}, {"start": "02:17:02", "end": "02:17:08", "text": "um Travis Walton where he had an injury which prevented them from doing something."}, {"start": "02:17:08", "end": "02:17:16", "text": "Were you implanted with something as a young child and those head injuries that you"}, {"start": "02:17:16", "end": "02:17:22", "text": "sustained messed that up? Yeah. you know, and then it was slowly"}, {"start": "02:17:22", "end": "02:17:27", "text": "coming out of your body. Just like when a dog uh you know, uh bites onto a a"}, {"start": "02:17:27", "end": "02:17:34", "text": "porcupine, the the the quills will eventually make their way out. That's right. Yeah. You know, was your body was like all of"}, {"start": "02:17:34", "end": "02:17:40", "text": "a sudden this thing was shook loose and your body was like, \"Oh, we need to eject.\" No, I think it was there for a long long"}, {"start": "02:17:40", "end": "02:17:46", "text": "time. Yeah. But because I was doing the scan, I was going to do a CT scan. Yeah. It was like, \"We need to get out."}, {"start": "02:17:46", "end": "02:17:52", "text": "We need to get it out.\" Yeah. Yeah. that that's what I believed at the time,"}, {"start": "02:17:52", "end": "02:17:58", "text": "you know. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, again, there's uh there's definitely cases. I think"}, {"start": "02:17:58", "end": "02:18:03", "text": "David Jacobs as well mentions that uh David Jacobs and perhaps there was"}, {"start": "02:18:03", "end": "02:18:11", "text": "another one might have been might have been John Mack, but um cases definitely where"}, {"start": "02:18:11", "end": "02:18:16", "text": "you know there's a woman who she was uh she was she had no reason to be"}, {"start": "02:18:16", "end": "02:18:24", "text": "pregnant. Yeah. you know, but then found out she knew, oh no, who was this? This was uh"}, {"start": "02:18:24", "end": "02:18:30", "text": "Oh, this was somebody I talked to over the phone. She knew she was um pregnant. She just knew. Yeah. Like she had a feeling. She's like, \"Oh"}, {"start": "02:18:30", "end": "02:18:36", "text": "my god, I'm pregnant.\" You know, her boyfriend was her husband was like, \"What are you talking about? It's impossible.\" Right. Got a pregnancy test, showed she was"}, {"start": "02:18:36", "end": "02:18:44", "text": "pregnant. Wow. And then um went to the doctor. Doctor said she was pregnant. And then when she"}, {"start": "02:18:44", "end": "02:18:49", "text": "I think considered having an abortion was where all of a sudden the next day"}, {"start": "02:18:49", "end": "02:18:58", "text": "she wasn't pregnant. Right. As if like you know something was removed. Yeah. Exactly. Um and"}, {"start": "02:18:58", "end": "02:19:03", "text": "there is also you know Whitley Strieber talks about his abduction his um implant"}, {"start": "02:19:03", "end": "02:19:11", "text": "being evasive. Yeah. in that, you know, they tried to get it out but then it would move and like it seems like I think Lou Alzando"}, {"start": "02:19:11", "end": "02:19:19", "text": "also talks about it in his book imminent that there was another case of an evasive implant. I actually seen um um Whitley Stbo doing"}, {"start": "02:19:19", "end": "02:19:25", "text": "an investigation with Dr. Roger Lee I believe and there was an implant in a"}, {"start": "02:19:25", "end": "02:19:30", "text": "lady's arm and as they would put the scalpel next to it to cut it would move. It would move. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:19:30", "end": "02:19:35", "text": "There's there's video of it like there's some sentient technology there. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:19:35", "end": "02:19:42", "text": "And even I think it was described as it was coated in some type of membrane."}, {"start": "02:19:42", "end": "02:19:48", "text": "That's right. Yes. That mimicked, you know, human membrane that the body wouldn't secrete it or or"}, {"start": "02:19:48", "end": "02:19:53", "text": "try to, you know, repel it. Yeah. Yeah. Man, so strange. But I mean, it's not"}, {"start": "02:19:53", "end": "02:20:00", "text": "that hard to believe if you're going like if we're if we're talking about aliens, right? We're talking about technology and and possibly civilization"}, {"start": "02:20:00", "end": "02:20:07", "text": "that exists, you know, millions, if not billions of years ahead of ours, whatever it is. Yeah. Then you know where would we go with"}, {"start": "02:20:07", "end": "02:20:12", "text": "that? Where would our mind go with that? It would it would it would go to the same types of tech, right? So"}, {"start": "02:20:12", "end": "02:20:19", "text": "you can reverse engineer from a lot of these cases the technology and be like, \"Yeah, we would go there, too.\""}, {"start": "02:20:19", "end": "02:20:24", "text": "That's what we would end up doing. We would have, you know, gravity manipulation. We would have all of these"}, {"start": "02:20:24", "end": "02:20:31", "text": "definitely. Yeah. Strange, you know, technologies. I'm sorry you said you have questions from the audience. I don't want to let"}, {"start": "02:20:31", "end": "02:20:36", "text": "that No, we're going to get to it. I'm not going to let that slide. Definitely not going to let that slide."}, {"start": "02:20:36", "end": "02:20:42", "text": "Um, one thing I did want to mention that we uh that we didn't touch on, but I know"}, {"start": "02:20:42", "end": "02:20:49", "text": "there might be some comments out there. I'm foreseeing some comments. Um, you know, if we think about physical evidence in terms of abductions or in"}, {"start": "02:20:49", "end": "02:20:56", "text": "terms of just UFOs in general, you know, it's very, very scarce. You're not going to find a lot. But um there you know"}, {"start": "02:20:56", "end": "02:21:03", "text": "there was this this wave of angel hair you know and that's not to be mistaken with with this hair. It's a totally"}, {"start": "02:21:03", "end": "02:21:10", "text": "different thing. Totally different thing. Yeah. Angel hair. You know there was this one famous soccer game I think in Italy."}, {"start": "02:21:10", "end": "02:21:16", "text": "It's sort of it's emitted from the object. It's not actual hair that we're talking about. They call it angel hair."}, {"start": "02:21:16", "end": "02:21:22", "text": "Yeah. There was this fly over where a thousand people saw these UFOs and these wispy strands came down or"}, {"start": "02:21:22", "end": "02:21:27", "text": "whatever it was. But a lot of that too, you know, there is radioactive chaff"}, {"start": "02:21:27", "end": "02:21:32", "text": "uh that um they used to do I think during the cold war they used to drop it"}, {"start": "02:21:32", "end": "02:21:38", "text": "out of planes because it was made of like fiberglass as well and it would throw off radar"}, {"start": "02:21:38", "end": "02:21:43", "text": "like it would it would radar would Yeah, exactly. So if they're flying through somewhere they would drop this stuff in"}, {"start": "02:21:43", "end": "02:21:49", "text": "the atmosphere and Well, even Bill Chalker, he had um experience where the craft dropped angel"}, {"start": "02:21:49", "end": "02:21:58", "text": "head. Yeah. Yeah. And you have guys like Chris Bledsoe and others who, you know, see this molten sort of dripping and it"}, {"start": "02:21:58", "end": "02:22:04", "text": "leaves this, you know, and then that was taken by NASA, I believe it was, and it was never given back to him. But"}, {"start": "02:22:04", "end": "02:22:09", "text": "yeah, we hear about a lot of that stuff. We hear about arts parts, you know, Art Bell who had"}, {"start": "02:22:09", "end": "02:22:15", "text": "parts of a craft and all sorts of stuff that seems anomalous, but never DNA."}, {"start": "02:22:15", "end": "02:22:20", "text": "Never DNA. This is a this is a big one, Peter. I mean, I don't have to tell you that. I"}, {"start": "02:22:20", "end": "02:22:25", "text": "don't obviously don't have to tell Bill that, but Dr. Drew, Dr. Horse, Drew,"}, {"start": "02:22:25", "end": "02:22:31", "text": "please, if you're if you're listening, if anybody knows this guy, your safe needs a bit of cleaning out."}, {"start": "02:22:31", "end": "02:22:37", "text": "I'm happy to go there and help him do it. Yeah, I think you should. I I'm not making this up. I would not"}, {"start": "02:22:37", "end": "02:22:43", "text": "make it up. I would not put him in that position. Of course, when he said to me,"}, {"start": "02:22:43", "end": "02:22:48", "text": "\"DNA is at its um toddler stage. We don't know what could happen in a"}, {"start": "02:22:48", "end": "02:22:55", "text": "couple of years. We have a vial that has DNA. It's minute DNA, but it's DNA from"}, {"start": "02:22:55", "end": "02:23:02", "text": "your case. We can replicate it. We can who knows what we can do, you know? Speaking speaking of PCR, we we kind of"}, {"start": "02:23:02", "end": "02:23:08", "text": "glossed over this a little bit, but the uh what was his name? The guy who Dr. Carrie Mullis. Dr. Carrie Mullis. Very interesting guy."}, {"start": "02:23:08", "end": "02:23:15", "text": "a Nobel laureate, won a Nobel Prize for, you know, uh, PCR. He was driving to his cabin in the woods"}, {"start": "02:23:15", "end": "02:23:21", "text": "and the PCR method was just downloaded to him. Yeah. And that same cabin that he was"}, {"start": "02:23:21", "end": "02:23:29", "text": "driving towards happened to also be, you know, he's the only Nobel Prize winner to ever uh mention somewhat of an"}, {"start": "02:23:29", "end": "02:23:34", "text": "abduction. And so did his daughter and a couple of the guests at at attended that party."}, {"start": "02:23:34", "end": "02:23:41", "text": "Some of them actually left because they were scared. Yep. They were so scared. So, what happened to him? He was coming home one night or he was walking or Yeah, he was"}, {"start": "02:23:41", "end": "02:23:48", "text": "walking through uh you know, he lives in a remote area and he sees this glowing owl."}, {"start": "02:23:48", "end": "02:23:56", "text": "Raccoon. Oh, was a raccoon. That's right. No, I I mixed up the owls from Whitley, but sort of this Yeah, this glowing raccoon um"}, {"start": "02:23:56", "end": "02:24:01", "text": "that is talking to him and then all of a sudden he's sort of teleported in time"}, {"start": "02:24:01", "end": "02:24:08", "text": "and space at a different area, I think, in his house or something. That's right. um hours later and he's like, \"Huh, that's weird.\" Kind"}, {"start": "02:24:08", "end": "02:24:14", "text": "of like moves on from there where the rest of us are like, \"All right, we know we think we know what's going on.\""}, {"start": "02:24:14", "end": "02:24:20", "text": "Um and then I think was it Bill who had mentioned to him, \"You should check out Whitley's book.\""}, {"start": "02:24:20", "end": "02:24:26", "text": "Yeah. And he's like, \"I already have.\" And in Whitley's book, obviously, it mentions uh this thing called screen"}, {"start": "02:24:26", "end": "02:24:33", "text": "memories where a lot of uh experiencers and people who've been abducted have uh"}, {"start": "02:24:33", "end": "02:24:39", "text": "talked about how they're they interface with often an owl, but sometimes a deer or a different"}, {"start": "02:24:39", "end": "02:24:45", "text": "type of animal. Yeah. It's it's something that you feel comfortable with. That's right. Like even traumatically,"}, {"start": "02:24:45", "end": "02:24:51", "text": "your brain will create like the image of something that you can make sense of. You can you can relate. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:24:51", "end": "02:24:57", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. It be like owls in your in your room or something or and so Yeah."}, {"start": "02:24:57", "end": "02:25:04", "text": "And then and then his daughter had a similar experience. And then also a guest he was he was having a party for this uh for winning"}, {"start": "02:25:04", "end": "02:25:10", "text": "the Nobel Prize. Two day old two-day party. I believe it was quite the bender. Yes. It"}, {"start": "02:25:10", "end": "02:25:16", "text": "Yeah. True. And then the next day then I had a party. Yeah. The next day there was a well the first"}, {"start": "02:25:16", "end": "02:25:22", "text": "day uh there was a guy there who um who said there was a glowing man"}, {"start": "02:25:22", "end": "02:25:27", "text": "that he had um seen and whatever and he also had like some type of time slip if I'm not mistaken."}, {"start": "02:25:27", "end": "02:25:33", "text": "Yeah. And then the next day he came to the party and he saw the same man which happened to be the neighbor of this"}, {"start": "02:25:33", "end": "02:25:39", "text": "doctor. That's right. And just upon seeing him turned his car around, freaked him out. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:25:39", "end": "02:25:44", "text": "And thought it was some sick prank. Yeah. and then didn't end up talking to the doctor for a long time thinking that"}, {"start": "02:25:44", "end": "02:25:50", "text": "he pranked him with this. Yeah. You know, so strange. It is. It is. And I'll tell you another"}, {"start": "02:25:50", "end": "02:25:58", "text": "strange thing that one of the psychologists that was involved in our group, female um Argentinian background."}, {"start": "02:25:58", "end": "02:26:07", "text": "When she was younger, she met this male and very strange. And um he told her he"}, {"start": "02:26:07", "end": "02:26:15", "text": "was an alien and she didn't believe it. And um he said to her, \"One day I will"}, {"start": "02:26:15", "end": "02:26:21", "text": "come back into your life as an owl.\" Right? She let it go for many years."}, {"start": "02:26:21", "end": "02:26:27", "text": "Now, for some reason, she had scans done. She might have thought she had cancer or something"}, {"start": "02:26:27", "end": "02:26:33", "text": "and she had scans done on her shoulder blade, uh the back of her shoulder. And"}, {"start": "02:26:33", "end": "02:26:39", "text": "in the X-ray, and I've got a photo where it shows the scar that she has on her"}, {"start": "02:26:39", "end": "02:26:46", "text": "skin. No, but it goes straight through the bone. She's got a hole big as a Australian 50"}, {"start": "02:26:46", "end": "02:26:52", "text": "Cent straight through the bone in in her shoulder. And um she was telling me the"}, {"start": "02:26:52", "end": "02:26:59", "text": "story and she said to me and this male said to me"}, {"start": "02:26:59", "end": "02:27:04", "text": "down the future in the future I will I will come back to you as an owl. And you"}, {"start": "02:27:04", "end": "02:27:12", "text": "wouldn't believe this. She um she um invited me to a barbecue to her"}, {"start": "02:27:12", "end": "02:27:21", "text": "house and Professor John Mack was in Australia at the time and it was the day he was flying out. So I"}, {"start": "02:27:21", "end": "02:27:27", "text": "uh my part my wife and I at the time we dropped John and Dominique at the airport and we wanted to stay with them"}, {"start": "02:27:27", "end": "02:27:34", "text": "and John was like no no please go to your she invited him as well but because of the schedule he couldn't yeah"}, {"start": "02:27:34", "end": "02:27:39", "text": "so he said no no please Peter leave us here go you don't need to wait"}, {"start": "02:27:39", "end": "02:27:46", "text": "mate we leave the airport we get toward which is like 15 minute drive from the airport John rings me and he says Peter"}, {"start": "02:27:46", "end": "02:27:52", "text": "you should have I wish you stayed he said our flight's being delayed by 5 hours. So, it broke my heart, you know."}, {"start": "02:27:52", "end": "02:27:59", "text": "And I said, \"John, I'm coming to get you right now.\" And he said, \"No, no, no. We've already checked in. We're not allowed to check back out and leave. So,"}, {"start": "02:27:59", "end": "02:28:06", "text": "don't worry. We'll we'll be okay, you know.\" And I said, \"Look, Beatric is here. She wants to talk to you.\" Um, so"}, {"start": "02:28:06", "end": "02:28:12", "text": "I put her on the phone and she wanted him to come over and meet him and that, but at least she did it over the phone."}, {"start": "02:28:12", "end": "02:28:17", "text": "And, um, while we're there, she's she's on the phone with John, right? And she"}, {"start": "02:28:17", "end": "02:28:23", "text": "comes out to give me the phone and I said, \"Betrus, have a look at what's on your garage"}, {"start": "02:28:23", "end": "02:28:30", "text": "roof.\" No way. Pitched roof. The garage. It's tiled roof, right? And owl is sitting there"}, {"start": "02:28:30", "end": "02:28:35", "text": "and she's like, \"Oh my god.\" You know, wow. All the owl takes off. She goes"}, {"start": "02:28:35", "end": "02:28:42", "text": "into that room. 20 minutes later, she goes into her bedroom and she's got a bay window"}, {"start": "02:28:42", "end": "02:28:47", "text": "and the window was open and the owl was sitting inside her room"}, {"start": "02:28:47", "end": "02:28:52", "text": "on the window sill. No way. And she called me and myself, my"}, {"start": "02:28:52", "end": "02:28:57", "text": "partner, my wife and her partner. Um, we all came and we stood there and this"}, {"start": "02:28:57", "end": "02:29:04", "text": "thing didn't fly away. Didn't get scared. Didn't do anything. It just sat there and she was like, \"Do you remember the story I told you?\" Wow. Oh, he said"}, {"start": "02:29:04", "end": "02:29:12", "text": "he'd come back as an owl. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm just relaying that because of Yeah. Yeah. The uh owls seem to have"}, {"start": "02:29:12", "end": "02:29:19", "text": "like an interesting more so than any other animal seem to be related to like the ETSs in some way. There is a talk."}, {"start": "02:29:19", "end": "02:29:25", "text": "Do you know about this talk? I'm going to use my be rude and use my phone for a second because I want to uh find this."}, {"start": "02:29:25", "end": "02:29:32", "text": "I'll try to link it below about different cases where, you know, owls"}, {"start": "02:29:32", "end": "02:29:37", "text": "have showed up either before or after abductions. Yeah. And not as screen memories as actual,"}, {"start": "02:29:37", "end": "02:29:44", "text": "you know, owls. So, it's just a almost like they have a sense of things."}, {"start": "02:29:47", "end": "02:29:55", "text": "Katy asks, \"Do you think the being with the milky skin is similar to the tall white Charl had encounters with? Are you"}, {"start": "02:29:55", "end": "02:30:02", "text": "familiar with? Yeah. Yeah, I am. Um,"}, {"start": "02:30:03", "end": "02:30:10", "text": "I couldn't say if it's like the same race, but very similar"}, {"start": "02:30:10", "end": "02:30:15", "text": "possibly, but I mean I mean look at us. We're, you know, human, but how many"}, {"start": "02:30:15", "end": "02:30:23", "text": "different forms of us are there? you know, you got different colored humans, you got tall humans, short humans, you know, and"}, {"start": "02:30:23", "end": "02:30:28", "text": "um but yeah, I'd say it would really Yeah, close close enough. Something we didn't touch on either."}, {"start": "02:30:28", "end": "02:30:35", "text": "Yesterday, Yun mentioned um during one of the during the regression that you had with Dr. Mack that you you heard"}, {"start": "02:30:35", "end": "02:30:41", "text": "them chirping back and forth. Charles Hall also mentions that with the with the beings. Yeah. That they also communicate in these"}, {"start": "02:30:41", "end": "02:30:46", "text": "high-pitched often. You can't even hear it so high pitched. Oh, I could hear it, but it was just"}, {"start": "02:30:46", "end": "02:30:52", "text": "so many of them at the same time. It was It was actually I've heard birds chirp and it hurts me sometimes because it"}, {"start": "02:30:52", "end": "02:30:58", "text": "reminds me of it. And it was like, you know, 20 birds chirping at once and chattering and"}, {"start": "02:30:58", "end": "02:31:05", "text": "talking to each other. Yeah. How bizarre. Yeah. All right."}, {"start": "02:31:12", "end": "02:31:20", "text": "67 China asks, \"Given the number of times you've been visited, are you expecting more throughout your life?\""}, {"start": "02:31:20", "end": "02:31:29", "text": "I definitely think um it's a liflong experience and um I"}, {"start": "02:31:29", "end": "02:31:36", "text": "don't lose I don't think they lose interest on you at a certain age. Um"}, {"start": "02:31:36", "end": "02:31:42", "text": "yeah. I'd be expecting more. Um, I look"}, {"start": "02:31:42", "end": "02:31:49", "text": "forward to it. It doesn't scare me, you know, the actual interaction that that happens. Um, I think I'm in a way"}, {"start": "02:31:49", "end": "02:31:57", "text": "blessed to go through it. And um maybe being the type of person I am um I don't"}, {"start": "02:31:57", "end": "02:32:04", "text": "let it get to me, but I mean obviously that incident with that female did, but I don't think I've ever shed a tear"}, {"start": "02:32:04", "end": "02:32:10", "text": "over the interaction with aliens. Yeah. And um you know, I look forward to more"}, {"start": "02:32:10", "end": "02:32:17", "text": "experiences. Um I just learn a little bit more every time and yeah, I I probably look forward"}, {"start": "02:32:17", "end": "02:32:23", "text": "to it. It's not something that scares me. Well, I think it would I guess speak for many people in saying it would scare"}, {"start": "02:32:23", "end": "02:32:29", "text": "the daylights out of most people. Yeah. Look, my the onlogical shock alone is is, you"}, {"start": "02:32:29", "end": "02:32:36", "text": "know, force to be reckoned with. Yeah. I think because it's happened to me since I was a kid. I'm sort of"}, {"start": "02:32:36", "end": "02:32:43", "text": "through it. And let's face it, I haven't been hurt, damaged in any way physically, or maybe mentally they get"}, {"start": "02:32:43", "end": "02:32:48", "text": "to you a little bit, you know, but I've leared to live through it. And I've been"}, {"start": "02:32:48", "end": "02:32:55", "text": "through more horrific and dangerous situations as a human being with human"}, {"start": "02:32:55", "end": "02:33:05", "text": "beings interacting with human beings than I have with any aliens, you know. Yeah. Okay. This is a good question."}, {"start": "02:33:11", "end": "02:33:16", "text": "Cosmic Dorcas great do you have any theory about what causes some people to"}, {"start": "02:33:16", "end": "02:33:22", "text": "be switched off during encounters? Yeah, I think most people get switched"}, {"start": "02:33:22", "end": "02:33:28", "text": "off but I think that whatever method they use doesn't work on everyone"}, {"start": "02:33:28", "end": "02:33:37", "text": "and do you think it's a tech technological or a mix of technology or purely psychic"}, {"start": "02:33:37", "end": "02:33:43", "text": "or it could be any or both? I think it goes back to the person that's having the experience."}, {"start": "02:33:43", "end": "02:33:48", "text": "Um, yeah, for some reason I believe that"}, {"start": "02:33:48", "end": "02:33:55", "text": "they can't switch off my memory where they can wipe other people's and people just confuse and don't know what's going"}, {"start": "02:33:55", "end": "02:34:03", "text": "on and they question it. Um, yeah, I"}, {"start": "02:34:03", "end": "02:34:09", "text": "Goodbye. and and and maybe there are reasons why people do get switched off because maybe they just can't handle it."}, {"start": "02:34:09", "end": "02:34:14", "text": "Speaking of switched off, there you go. Wow. The TV just switched off. Wow."}, {"start": "02:34:14", "end": "02:34:20", "text": "How wild is that? That's never happened before. Wow. All right."}, {"start": "02:34:20", "end": "02:34:26", "text": "Jeez. Someone's trying to say something. They're talking about get switched off. Literally, the camera just got switched"}, {"start": "02:34:26", "end": "02:34:33", "text": "off. That's Yeah. All right. Last question. I guess this is from uh We get it. We'll hurry up."}, {"start": "02:34:33", "end": "02:34:38", "text": "Yeah. Um, this is from Gina."}, {"start": "02:34:43", "end": "02:34:49", "text": "Gina asks, \"If the woman returned, I'm assuming uh the woman you interacted with or one of the two, and offered you"}, {"start": "02:34:49", "end": "02:34:56", "text": "one answer about what happened, what would you ask? One answer."}, {"start": "02:34:56", "end": "02:35:01", "text": "This my kids won't like this. Mhm."}, {"start": "02:35:01", "end": "02:35:07", "text": "What's happened to the child? I' I'd want to know because I did have"}, {"start": "02:35:07", "end": "02:35:13", "text": "an experience where I did meet that person. Mhm. And"}, {"start": "02:35:13", "end": "02:35:20", "text": "um it was it was really weird situation where it was like a like we're on a"}, {"start": "02:35:20", "end": "02:35:25", "text": "craft but the craft had like a patio and it was out outside the craft where we"}, {"start": "02:35:25", "end": "02:35:32", "text": "were sitting and um the table was half as wide as this table and this"}, {"start": "02:35:32", "end": "02:35:38", "text": "14year-old like pale skin short hair boy short"}, {"start": "02:35:38", "end": "02:35:45", "text": "hair. It was a female, beautiful features, you know. Um, and she actually"}, {"start": "02:35:45", "end": "02:35:51", "text": "she did it to me and in in turn got me to reach over. She put her hands out and"}, {"start": "02:35:51", "end": "02:35:59", "text": "I I reached over and she held my hands. Yeah. And um"}, {"start": "02:35:59", "end": "02:36:05", "text": "I couldn't help that strong feeling that that was my child. Yeah. And I find hard"}, {"start": "02:36:05", "end": "02:36:11", "text": "to talk about because it did affect my kids. Yeah. Yeah. I understand that. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:36:11", "end": "02:36:19", "text": "Thanks for sharing that. And and there was one time where I heard the female's voice say to me, and it was"}, {"start": "02:36:19", "end": "02:36:25", "text": "probably about 12, 14 years later. And I heard her say, \"Your child is beautiful."}, {"start": "02:36:25", "end": "02:36:33", "text": "Your sorry, your daughter is beautiful.\" And I knew she was talking about Wow. her daughter, not not my"}, {"start": "02:36:33", "end": "02:36:38", "text": "human daughter, cuz she had Yeah. nothing to do with it. Wow. Um,"}, {"start": "02:36:38", "end": "02:36:45", "text": "yeah. And I I clearly understood when she said that who she was talking about."}, {"start": "02:36:50", "end": "02:36:55", "text": "Again, that's not the first time I've heard, you know, things like things of that"}, {"start": "02:36:55", "end": "02:37:02", "text": "nature. I've spoken to multiple multiple people aside from all the cases I've read. I've spoken to people who have,"}, {"start": "02:37:02", "end": "02:37:09", "text": "you know, openly talked to me about this experience as well, about a meeting. Yeah. About them presenting."}, {"start": "02:37:09", "end": "02:37:15", "text": "Yeah. Um, I knew I had no doubt in in every case that I've heard it, it"}, {"start": "02:37:15", "end": "02:37:22", "text": "was the child that wanted Yeah. the meeting. Yeah. That's that's the impression I got. And that's why she reached out"}, {"start": "02:37:22", "end": "02:37:28", "text": "first. Yeah. Like the uh the grown-ups, so to speak, are reluctant to even let that"}, {"start": "02:37:28", "end": "02:37:34", "text": "happen. Yeah. But the child for whatever part of their development needed that"}, {"start": "02:37:34", "end": "02:37:41", "text": "that's the exact same the exact same thing I've heard over and over again."}, {"start": "02:37:41", "end": "02:37:47", "text": "Ah man. Yeah. I just want to know that she's okay. Fair. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:37:47", "end": "02:37:53", "text": "Well, Peter, you've been you've been an absolute gentleman and and uh just just an open"}, {"start": "02:37:53", "end": "02:37:58", "text": "book and I I really really truly appreciate you coming here and talking to me about this stuff and getting the word out, man."}, {"start": "02:37:58", "end": "02:38:04", "text": "Yeah. Thank you for giving me the opportunity. Um I I just do this to hopefully reach out to people who have"}, {"start": "02:38:04", "end": "02:38:10", "text": "had experiences like mine and are just too scared to talk about it or feel like they'll be ridiculed."}, {"start": "02:38:10", "end": "02:38:18", "text": "Yeah. Just don't worry about that, you know? Yeah. Just tell your story."}, {"start": "02:38:18", "end": "02:38:24", "text": "Yeah. No, I appreciate you telling yours and um I agree. If you're out there, you"}, {"start": "02:38:24", "end": "02:38:30", "text": "know, there's support groups out there and there's ways to uh to get in touch with people who've gone through similar"}, {"start": "02:38:30", "end": "02:38:36", "text": "things and hopefully, you know, through through these type of programs,"}, {"start": "02:38:36", "end": "02:38:43", "text": "the word gets out a little bit more and people uh dstigmatize this stuff and uh at least allow people to talk about it"}, {"start": "02:38:43", "end": "02:38:48", "text": "in a in a judgment-free area. We're not asking you to believe. Not asking you to not believe."}, {"start": "02:38:48", "end": "02:38:53", "text": "Yeah. Just how about just suspend all of that and just allow people to say what they"}, {"start": "02:38:53", "end": "02:39:00", "text": "want to say in a judgmentfree environment. And that way we can maybe start piecing together a hypothesis."}, {"start": "02:39:00", "end": "02:39:07", "text": "Yeah. And finding answers. Look, I I have a bit of an issue with people who claim that for the last 20"}, {"start": "02:39:07", "end": "02:39:16", "text": "years, maybe 30 years, they've been claiming that disclosures around the corner. And um I I had Steven Basset as"}, {"start": "02:39:16", "end": "02:39:22", "text": "a guest in my house. So we had about 50 researchers invite only as um just as"}, {"start": "02:39:22", "end": "02:39:28", "text": "guest to sit in and listen to him. And um I remember him saying within the next"}, {"start": "02:39:28", "end": "02:39:36", "text": "6 months everybody in the world's going to know the truth. And I remember saying to him in front of everyone,"}, {"start": "02:39:36", "end": "02:39:41", "text": "um I've been holding my breath for a while. I'm not going to hold it anymore, you know, because I don't expect"}, {"start": "02:39:41", "end": "02:39:50", "text": "anything's going to happen. Um, governments aren't going to tell us the truth. Unless the aliens decide it's"}, {"start": "02:39:50", "end": "02:39:55", "text": "time, that's when it'll happen. Uh, the last thing government want to do is open"}, {"start": "02:39:55", "end": "02:40:01", "text": "this can of worms for them because then there's litigation. There's, you know, abusing people and neglecting"}, {"start": "02:40:01", "end": "02:40:07", "text": "people and there'll be class actions, legal actions and so on. Um so yeah I"}, {"start": "02:40:07", "end": "02:40:14", "text": "just someone recently was saying um that people are making quotes in the next"}, {"start": "02:40:14", "end": "02:40:19", "text": "couple of weeks will know something and it's been for me it's been 33 years"}, {"start": "02:40:19", "end": "02:40:27", "text": "since the 92 experience and um I hear it all the time and I just think"}, {"start": "02:40:27", "end": "02:40:33", "text": "maybe humanity is ready but the government thinks we're not. Well, um,"}, {"start": "02:40:33", "end": "02:40:38", "text": "with all due respect, [ __ ] them. Um, I don't I don't really care. You're not"}, {"start": "02:40:38", "end": "02:40:44", "text": "gonna Disclosure isn't something you present in a redacted file. It's not something you get from"}, {"start": "02:40:44", "end": "02:40:50", "text": "scripture. That's right. It's it's a personal journey. Yeah. And it takes time. You know, for some people, they get"}, {"start": "02:40:50", "end": "02:40:56", "text": "ontological shock. Uh, but for the most of us, um, it's about distigmatizing."}, {"start": "02:40:56", "end": "02:41:02", "text": "It's about talking about it, opening up the conversation, and making it so that when you're near"}, {"start": "02:41:02", "end": "02:41:07", "text": "the water cooler at work, you're going to be like, \"Hey, did you watch that podcast? Really interesting guy that came on. He's talking about some cool"}, {"start": "02:41:07", "end": "02:41:12", "text": "shit.\" Versus, you know, \"Oh, no, that's crazy talk.\" Like, that I think is disclosure."}, {"start": "02:41:12", "end": "02:41:17", "text": "I think just opening up the conversation to where we're comfortable talking about it."}, {"start": "02:41:17", "end": "02:41:24", "text": "That is a huge leap. Definitely. And if we can just do that, then maybe whenever it does happen,"}, {"start": "02:41:24", "end": "02:41:31", "text": "maybe most of us won't even be surprised. I've had people tell me they don't believe in the topic at all, but because"}, {"start": "02:41:31", "end": "02:41:39", "text": "they know me and they've known me, you know, worked with me for years and so on. Um, they believe cuz they know Peter"}, {"start": "02:41:39", "end": "02:41:45", "text": "wouldn't tell I wouldn't lie about this. I wouldn't tell a story like why would I? Yeah. What benefit do I get out of this? I've"}, {"start": "02:41:45", "end": "02:41:52", "text": "never made money out of it. I'm not rich. If anything, I'm going to lose my house and have to downgrade and move"}, {"start": "02:41:52", "end": "02:41:57", "text": "somewhere else. And um if I was in it for money, I wouldn't care, you know,"}, {"start": "02:41:57", "end": "02:42:03", "text": "I'd pay out my ex and I'd have enough money to buy a better place than what"}, {"start": "02:42:03", "end": "02:42:09", "text": "I'm in even, you know, but it was never about that with me. And um I think that's why people"}, {"start": "02:42:09", "end": "02:42:17", "text": "um believe my story because I was never never about trying, you know, to sell it and make money. And I've done thousands"}, {"start": "02:42:17", "end": "02:42:22", "text": "of interviews and I've never charged for an interview. Um, the only thing I"}, {"start": "02:42:22", "end": "02:42:28", "text": "recuperate is when I went to Japan, for example, had to take time off work. They"}, {"start": "02:42:28", "end": "02:42:34", "text": "covered that, which was, I think, was about $1,000, nothing more. It's not like, you know, I'm I'm on the"}, {"start": "02:42:34", "end": "02:42:40", "text": "talk circuit, lecture circuit, and I'm traveling and making money and that. It's not about that for me. You know,"}, {"start": "02:42:40", "end": "02:42:46", "text": "I just want to share my story to reach the people who were having experiences and just don't have the courage to speak"}, {"start": "02:42:46", "end": "02:42:51", "text": "about it. And maybe I'll give him the strength to say if he can do it, I can"}, {"start": "02:42:51", "end": "02:42:57", "text": "do it. That's that's my main aim. Thank you, Peter."}, {"start": "02:42:57", "end": "02:43:01", "text": "Thank you."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "Notice was it then kind of cigar- shaped as these tip tanks are more egg shape than anything."}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "A farmer in Newark Valley, New York saw two occupants in an egg-shaped crack,"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "but they didn't fly off the second they saw Mr. Wilcox. In fact, according to"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "him, he spent two hours conversing with these Martians."}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "So, several years ago, uh my two closest friends and I were out in the driveway"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "lying down stargazing and um we all notice a black deep black"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "rectangular something moving across the sky steadily"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "at a fairly low altitude. Um it was either low altitude or it was an"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "incredibly large object. It emitted no sound, no light, and we could all"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "clearly tell that it was blocking out starlight from behind it. All these"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "years later, we describe it affectionately as the flying refrigerator."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of Debriefed. My name is Chris Ramsey, and today we're going to"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "be taking a look at a case that happened on April 24th, 1964. Now, if you Googled"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "that date and typed UFO beside it, you would probably come up with the case of Lonnie Zamora, the police officer who"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "chased down a UFO in Sakoro, New Mexico. Instantly, Sakuro was the center of an"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "unprecedented media frenzy. This is one of the few sightings that got national attention immediately."}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "Lonni Zamora's story is on the national news. It's in all the newspapers. Everybody's talking about it. the police"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "officer, the occupants retracted back into the vehicle and then the rocket sort of shot up into space over Lonie's"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "head. But no, folks, that is not the case that we are going to be looking into. The case that I propose is one of"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "Gary Wilcox, a farmer in Newark Valley, New York, who on the same day just a few"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "hours prior, saw two occupants in an egg-shaped craft. But they didn't fly"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "off the second they saw Mr. Wilcox. In fact, according to him, he spent two"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "hours conversing with these Martians. So, folks, that's what we're going to be"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "looking into today. I am very excited about reading through this. This read through is courtesy of the Flying Saucer"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "Review magazine. Uh we'll be reading from an excerpt from said magazine"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "today. The reason I wanted to cover this is because it doesn't only cover Gary's"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "encounter with the beings and the saucer, but it also covers some of the sort of psychological evaluation that"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "Gary went through and the psychiatric study into the examination of Gary Wilcox in his home, which I think is a"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "pertinent piece of information if we're going to talk about a sort of I promise,"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "I swear, trust me, bro, this happened. I think the least we can do is verify the"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "veracity and the psychological evaluation of this individual, which is what we're going to do through this here"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "article written by Bertold Eric Schwarz. There was a telephone call"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "interview done just a short while after with Mr. Will Cox and I'll leave the"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "link to that below. Here's a snippet. So, was it been kind of cigar shaped as these tip tanks are?"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "More eggshaped than anything. about 20 foot long, 15 or 16 foot wide,"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "about 4 foot deep. So in this article, we also go through the interview held by Priscilla Baldwin,"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "a former neighbor of Gary Wilcox. She was 37 years old at the time and her"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "occupations and background uh given UFO literature include she was a legal secretary and also a radar technician"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "during World War II. Now, as soon as this happened to Gary Wilcox, he was"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "told by the alien beings, by the way, not to spill the beans and not to talk to anyone about this, but being, you"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "know, a salt of the earth sort of farm boy, he came home and told his mother, didn't explicitly tell her not to tell"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "anyone, and then she ended up spilling the beans, which reached the ears of Miss Baldwin here, who eventually uh"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "supplied crucial information about Will Cox's story, went to go see the neighbors and friends. She contacted all"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "these people. She recorded a set of notes on April 28th with a Q&A which we'll be going through. She accompanied"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "Will Cox to the site on April 29th for which we have a photo of, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "alleged landing site. And she also ended up contacting the Teoga Sheriff County's"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "office, lending her notes to Officer George Williams, who incorporated them into the official investigation. Now,"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "there are certain rumors out there that Miss Priscilla Baldwin may have had a"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "little bit of a um I don't know, a previous relationship with UFOs given that she was a radar technician during"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "World War II. She had technical familiarity and because she knew Will Cox and considered him trustworthy, she"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "was motivated to help. You know, perhaps maybe she had her own sighting uh during that time, you know, working the radars."}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "Who knows? So, by no means was she an official UFO buff or researcher, but she"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "she knew that Gary Wilcox was credible. He was like just a salt of the earth guy. Just you can trust him. He's a"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "farmer, not out to really gain any notoriety or fame. And so, she thought"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "this was very interesting and and obviously worthy of her time to investigate it. So, let's get into this"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "article now. Gary Wilcox and the Euphan. We begin. Psychiatric study of witnesses"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "to close-range UFO sightings is useful in establishing the reliability of the witness in obtaining data of medical"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "significance and in understanding the event. Unfortunately, all of the episodes involving possible UFO"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "occupants. There are very few published studies by physicians. The writings in the popular press and in particular the"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "detailed documented accounts by Charles Bowen and the provocative data collected by John A. Keel raise many questions in"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "the answering of which psychiatric techniques might have value. Such"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "problems as psychosis versus health, paranoid state versus the alleged reality of bizarre quote unquote men in"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "black, persecutions, such paranormal phenomena as prophecy, hauntings,"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "telekinesis, and sightings of supposed monsters have come to light. Naturally, I think this is a a perfect place to be"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "a little skeptical is when we're talking about aliens. And so, I think it merits its own investigation into the"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "psychological prowess of these individuals and witnesses. The author first learned of"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "the extraordinary experience of Gary Wilcox in New York Valley, New York, while studying many UFO sightings in the"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "vicinity of Towanda, Pennsylvania. His informant, Miss Ailen Isbel of Luther's"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "Mills, whom he had studied and found trustworthy, mentioned her brother-in-law, Arthur Frederick Jr.,"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "who formerly rented an apartment next to Gary Wilcox's farm. Mr. Frederick, a computer programmer who had worked on"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "the Apollo simulator project, vouched. That's an interesting word, vouched."}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "I'm going to use that from now on for Mr. Willox's veracity. The author then recalled Olga H. Hot."}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hotchkiss's story of the Will Cox experience and also paperback reports, which at the time seemed rather"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "far-fetched and which might have been based on Bingham, New York newspaper"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "accounts. After the author had studied Mrs. Isbel,"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "however, the Gary Wilcox UFO encounter seemed most intriguing. Therefore, on October 18th, 1968, Gary Wilcox was"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "psychiatrically examined in his home. His wife was also interviewed. These"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "studies were supplemented by several telephone interviews with the Will Coxes and face-to-face interviews with Mr."}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "Wilcox's younger brother, Floyd, of New York Valley, and Sheriff Paul J. Taylor of Tyogga County, Oego, New York. Mr."}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "Wilcox's mother and his second oldest brother, Barry, were questioned on the telephone. A neighboring farmer and"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "steel worker, Vic Kobilars, whose daughter was a schoolmate of Gary Wilcox, was also interviewed on the"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "telephone and through letters. Mr. Kobilars is a relative by marriage of Miss Teresa Krajuski and also an uncle"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "of her closest lifelong friend. Mr. Krajski is a close friend of the author."}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "Mr. Kovarts talked with Gary Wilcox shortly after the UFO event. Mrs. Wifred"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "Marts, Monroen, Pennsylvania. Mother of the author's EEG technician, Mrs. Evelyn"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "Goldner, also contacted one of her close friends, Mrs. Pauline Beiel. There are so many names here. I don't expect"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "anyone, including myself, to remember any of these names. I think this is just to provide a bit of uh thoroughess. Um,"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "I think we can forego the reading of more names unless you're taking notes. I'll link to this article, by the way."}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "But most importantly, Miss Priscilla J. Baldwin, a former neighbor of Gary Wilcox, who is a legal secretary and who"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "was a radar technician during World War II, kindly supplied much crucial information through correspondents and"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "on the telephone. She contacted friends of neighbors of Gary Wilcox, Mrs. Helen McFersonson, and Walter Stevens, who"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "supplied additional information. It was due to Miss Baldwin's initiative that this extraordinary case came to the"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "attention of Binghipton, New York newspapers, and to Sheriff Paul J. Taylor of Tyogga County, New York. Miss"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "Baldwin's role. Here we go. The following notes were recorded by Miss Baldwin, aged 37, on April 28th, 1964,"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "after talking with Gary Wilcox, age 26, about the spaceship that landed"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "in his property on April 24th, 1964. Open quote. Some questions and answers I"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "received. Question: When did you notice object? answer. About 10:00 a.m. I was"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "spreading manure in lower field above my house and barn. Noticed a white or shiny"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "object above the field just on inside edge of woods. These are obviously"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "abbreviated notes. I feel like there are some words being omitted probably in the context of jotting them down quickly. I"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "was curious and drove the tractor and manure spreader up to the edge of the woods and stopped."}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "got a closer look at the object and thought it to be a fuselage or fuel tank from a plane. That's interesting."}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "Question: What did you do? Answer: I thumped it and kicked it. Felt like a"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "metallic canvas. So cool. Might be the only person in history to thump and kick"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "a UFO. Question. Then what? Answer: Two men appeared from under the object."}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "These men were holding what seemed to be a metal tray. approximately 1 ft square"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "filled with alalfa with roots and soil, leaves and brush. The men were attired"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "in what seemed to be white or some kind of metallic suits with no part of their"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "body showing. So, the difference here between the Lonnie Zamora case and the Willox case is first of all, the craft,"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "although appeared to have the same texture. The one in the Lonnie Zamora case also had a symbol on it, some type"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "of like alien symbol. Who knows? Maybe this was on the other side of the craft and Mr. Wilcox couldn't see it. But"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "secondly, the beings, although I think we're going to get into maybe at least describing them a bit, were the same"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "height, but the ones in the Zamora case wore overalls. All right. So, maybe they're maybe they got changed. They"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "were no longer in their farm suits. I don't know. Question: Were you frightened? Answer: I sure was. I didn't"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "say much for the first few minutes, but thought it was some kind of a trick being pulled on me. Question: What were"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "the first words spoken? Answer: They said, \"Do not be alarmed.\" They"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "asked what I was doing, what the tractor, manure spreader, and manure was. I told them I was spreading manure."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "I talked and answered their questions for 2 hours and learned they had been watching me for quite a while. They were"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "very interested in organic substances such as soil as Mars is made up of rocky"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "substances not fit for growing. Was told that in the future Mars and Earth will be trading environments due to the"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "rockets, missiles, and miscellaneous objects being ejected into space from Earth. Now folks, I'll be honest. This"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "is where I get a little bit skeptical. Not necessarily skeptical of Mr. Wilcox. Perhaps he is telling the truth, but"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "skeptical of the information being passed to him. Perhaps he's being scoped by these aliens early on, but they say"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "they're from Mars. All right. Now, back then, there was a a bit of a, you know, we're coming out of the sort of space"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "brothers era where all these humanlooking aliens said that they were from Venus, the Venian aliens, and now"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "we've transitioned into Martians, you know? So, maybe, who knows, maybe these aliens caught wind of our sci-fi movies."}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "That's the first thing. The second thing here is that there is a bit of a discrepancy"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "between what was said or how it was said rather in the early accounts. I do"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "believe that he says even in the interview that the beings spoke to him"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "using words and then I think the second time a little later on the communication"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "that was had was was had telepathically and so bit of a major difference there"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "but let's read on just to make sure we got all the facts straight here. Did I mention to suspend your disbelief?"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "Might be a good time right about now. Check it at the door. We'll get back to it in a second. It'll be there safe and"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "sound upon your return. And I promise you don't have to believe anything I say"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "at all. Zero. You don't have to not believe. You can just live in some weird"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "suspension. While we continue to read through this document, it's interesting here because they say, \"Do not be"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "alarmed.\" But then I think in the phone interview, if I'm not mistaken, they follow that up by saying, \"We've spoken"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "to humans before.\" And then proceed to tell them uh they're from Mars. I asked them if I could go back with them. was"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "told I could not due to the thinness of atmosphere. They also said it was impossible for them to land in congested"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "areas. The fumes of traffic were too dense. They also mentioned that astronauts Glenn and Gryom and the two"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "astronauts from Russia would die within a year due to exposure of space. They seemed interested in learning the art of"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "farming and growing. After learning that fertilizer would enrich this art, they wanted to know more about it. They did"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "not seem to know what cows were either. They said they usually did not appear after dark as their metallic ship would"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "be too obvious. It made a swishing noise only, and in daylight, the ship is not"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "easily observed. I watched them take off, and after being advised not to mention the incident, after a burring"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "and swishing sound, they disappeared to the north. Only marks remaining that I"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "could detect were a kind of red dust, evidently from propulsion. uh where they"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "where the vehicle rested. I could not tell if it was actually if it actually"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "was resting on the ground or whether it was hovering in midair. It seemed to be larger than an auto, approximately 20 ft"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "long and 14 ft wide and shaped like an egg. The voices"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "seemed to come from what might be the chest of the men,"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "and they had an eerie sound. Okay, so this is interesting. Now we're talking about somebody trying to describe"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "potentially what telepathy would be. You know, if you're hearing it in your head, you're assuming it's coming from"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "somewhere and so maybe it was coming from their chest. That's a really interesting detail. Uh secondly, I will"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "say, did astronauts Glenn and Gryom die within a year? Um I don't think they"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "did. Let me check. In his encounter, he claims that astronauts Glenn and Gryom"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "um and two other astronauts from Russia would die within a year due to exposure"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "of space. Is any of that true or verifiable? So, that particular claim is"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "definitely part of the more sensationalized side of the Willox story. There isn't any real evidence"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "that Gary Wilcox's prediction about astronauts like John Glenn and Gus Gryom"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "and unnamed Russian cosminauts dying within a year actually came true or has any basis in fact in reality. Will Gus"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "Gryom tragically died in the Apollo 1 fire in 1967. John Glenn lived for many"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "decades after his space flights and even returned to space in the 1990s. The idea that Will Cox predicted multiple"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "astronauts deaths due to exposure of space is one of those. All right, so full of crap are these"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "aliens or full of crap is this guy a Gary Wilcox? Again, I ask why would you"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "just lie about this? Now, I shall give my thoughts on what I think is going on"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "here at the end of the video. Stay tuned for that. But for now, let's continue suspending our disbelief. Later that"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "same afternoon, I returned to the spot where this took place. I left a 75lb bag"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "of fertilizer near a small tree. On returning to the scene Saturday morning, April 25th, 1964, I found the fertilizer"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "was gone. And that is the end of personal talk with Gary. On April 29, 1964, I went up"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "to Gary's and asked if he would take me to the spot on his tractor. After finishing his afternoon chores, he took"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "me up in the rain on the back of his tractor and he also spread some fertilizer on the way. I had a camera"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "with me and took a couple of shots. With the rainy weather, it was doubtful if they are good. I also picked up some"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "rocks and leaves that were lying where the red dust had accumulated. So, there's a photo. Photo one."}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "However, after the rain, there was no evidence of dust. That same day, on my return home, I contacted Sheriff Paul"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "Taylor by telephone and told him of this incident. He had not heard of it before."}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "He said he could not come to New York Valley that day, but would when there was time. After not hearing if the"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "sheriff had been up or not, I made another call to his office Friday, May 1st, 1964."}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "I was informed he had not, but would soon. About 1 and 1/2 hours later, an"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "officer from the sheriff's office, George Williams, drove in my driveway. He asked if I was the one that made the"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "complaint to his office. I said yes. I asked him if he had been up to Gary's farm, and he said he had, but found no"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "one there. I told him I thought he would be doing chores at that time, and I offered to go back up with him, which I"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "did. We found Gary in the barn, and after the officer questioned him for a short time, he, the officer, wanted to"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "go up to the place where the incident occurred. Gary did not want to interrupt his chores, but said I could show him"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "the exact place. I agreed to go with him and after trying the hill with the sheriff's car, decided to walk as the"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "ground was very muddy. We walked up and I showed him just what Gary had shown me and pointed out where the red dust had"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "been and also where he had left the fertilizer. After inspecting the"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "surrounding areas, we came back down. The officer asked me if I thought Gary would be willing to come to the sheriff's office to make a statement,"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "and I told him I thought he would. On returning to the barn, the officer"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "entered the barn again and asked Gary if he would. Gary agreed to be at the office in Oego at 7:00 p.m. that night."}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "I think it's pretty funny that Gary just saw a UFO, spoke telepathically to"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "strange beings from Mars and, you know, wasn't motivated enough to go and show"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "the sheriff where it had happened. He's like, I said the story twice already. I'm good. I got chores uh to get back"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "to. I don't know if that vouches for his credibility or if it plays against him in this case,"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "you know, being an unbothered farm guy like he is. Uh that kind of would fit,"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "you know, his character of just kind of being like, well, that's what happened. I went there and that's what it was."}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "Now, if you don't mind, I got to get back to doing my chores. On bringing me back to my home, the"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "officer questioned my being so interested in this. I told him that Gary had told several people, but like the"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "majority, very few believed his story, and he was going to do nothing further about it. I asked him prior to my"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "telephone call to the sheriff if he cared if I did. He said he didn't, and that he would just tell them the same he"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "had everyone else. I told the officer I had written down notes after I talked to Gary the first time. The officer took"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "these notes with him, and he said he would return them to me after talking to Gary. They evidently were used in cross-checking his story. Thursday"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "night, May 7th, 1964, I stopped at the sheriff's office with a friend and picked up my notes. They had been"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "retained in a sealed envelope signed PJ Baldwin. So, on November 24th,"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "1968, Miss Baldwin wrote the author and enclosed newspaper clippings of the event. She also sent some very brittle"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "leaves and a piece of stone that I picked up at the scene of the UFO landing. You are welcome to them if they"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "could be of any significance. It was raining the day I rode up the hill with Gary on his tractor. The leaves and"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "stones were wet. I picked them I picked them up right on the spot where the red"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "dust was supposed to be. After I had been on the hill, I did read that"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "samples had been taken on the spot for researches. So, I always thought the"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "samples I had taken were of more value, seeing I had been at the scene before"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "anyone else had. I'm also enclosing two very dim pictures taken that day I was"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "there. You may not be able to decipher same. Uh, but the one picture does show broken"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "branches on the trees where this object appeared. See Figure 1. Miss Baldwin continued, \"I've known Gary since he was"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "a boy, and knowing what a quiet, shy fellow he has always been, I have never had any doubts as to what he saw. There"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "are people who would revel in causing this kind of excitement. But I truly"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "believe Gary would have been the last person who would have wanted this type of notoriety."}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "I was in the Air Force for 3 years and my career field was AC and W radar. In"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "my work, I plotted UFO blips, as they were called at the time, on the radar screen in the control center. Many"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "times, blips were not identified. The speed in most cases was unbelievable."}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "However, I don't know if any of that was ever the reason for my interest or not,"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "but I do believe it had a lot to do with it. So, there we go. Uh, we answer the question of, you know, where this"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "curiosity comes from. I think some of it might have I mean how could you be a radar operator get a UFO blip as she put"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "it and not be interested for sure. Also, this reminds me a lot of Joe Simon's"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "account just three years prior. Joe Simon, the famous man who was given"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "pancakes by aliens. All right. And then ate one and then gave the others to the"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "Air Force became a Project Blue Book investigation. This, by the way, was not investigated by Project Blue Book. I"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "suspect they had their hands full with the Lonnie Zamora case which happened on the same day. Uh yeah, just kind of flew"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "under the radar. Unlucky if he was trying to get this out to the national press being overshadowed by a similar event."}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "Oh, this is interesting. So there's a bit of a there's an asterisk here. He did read that samples had been taken on"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "the spot for researchers. Okay, so the asterisk says that a check for radioactivity of appropriate samples was"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "arranged by Sheriff Taylor shortly after his investigation. The results were negative. On December 17th, 1968, Philip"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "Johnson, associate professor of radiology at Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons and director"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "of nuclear medicine Presbyterian Hospital, New York City, reported that the specimens collected by Miss Baldwin"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "were not radioactive in so far as my instrumentation can determine. Each"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "sample was exposed to a twoin scintillation crystal with flat field"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "calimter and pulse height analyzer. Okay. All right. All just pretty, you"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "know, pretty standard stuff. Uh by varying the setting on the analyzer, the crystal was made sensitive to gamma"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "photons in the energy range of 30 kevs to one mev. No activity above background"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "levels was observed. I did not test alpha particle radiation uh nor for low"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "energy beta radiation since I do not have the proper equipment. Well, shame on you. All right,"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "Dr. Johnson. I would I would have expected you would have at least tested for uh you know the low energy beta"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "radiation, but you forgiven. We carry on. Sheriff Taylor's report. So, this is"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "Sheriff Taylor who went up to meet Mr. Wilcox. Miss Baldwin contacted the sheriff's office. Tyogga County, Oego,"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "New York on April 29, 1964. And on May 1st, Gary Wilcox was visited by officer George Williams. He reported the"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "following. Traveled to New York Valley and contacted Priscilla Baldwin on matter pertinent to this complaint. We"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "drove to farm of, again, I'm going to omit a lot of the 'the' here. It seems like people just, you know, were in a in"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "a hurry. Uh, we drove to farm of Gary Wilcox. His farm is off the Wilson Creek"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "Road. the second place on the left side of the on the Davis Hollow Road. Gary was milking his cows at the time of our"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "arrival, which was about 4:15 p.m. He stated that he milks some of his heavy"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "milkers three times a day. All right. This of course would cause him to lose"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "some sleep. Ah, the text of his statement concerning the unidentified object is contained in statement which"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "is made a part of this file. He admitted that he drank a little, but"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "that he was not drinking at the time of his reported incident. He also stated that he had some marital difficulty, but"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "this did not encourage him to drink any more than he had been accustomed."}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "This man does not appear to be unstable or mentally disturbed in any way. His eyes are slightly different in"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "appearance from the average person, but it is believed that it is more of a physical characteristic uh than it is a"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "mental affliction. Okay. I didn't realize that um the shape of someone's"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "eyes was directly linked to mental faculty. He is a hard worker. The"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "complainant in this case says that she has no reason to doubt him. We complainant and myself walk to the top"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "of the hill where this quote unquote spaceship was reported to have landed or hovered. This hill is northeast of the"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "farm buildings and there is an old abandoned refrigerator at the top of the hill which was reported to be physically"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "situated about 20 ft from where the spaceship had been. We checked the area particularly for red colored dust and"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "impressions on the ground. This was about a week after the reported incident and there had been considerable rain"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "during this time. The only thing unusual noted at this time was that the ground where the ship was reportedly hovering"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "was damp. This could have been caused by a spring or ground formation. The ground"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "surrounding the area was uh comparatively dry. There was no evidence of red dust. This"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "would have been washed away anyway. Did not look too close for any evidence of digging at this time as we were not"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "advised until later that the individual individuals of questionable origin had"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "been holding trays of sod. This Gary believed had been samples of the soil."}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "He stated that the sod had grass or vegetation on top. In event that samples had been removed from his property in"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "this area, it would be comparatively simple to relocate or to locate the place of digging. Even at this late"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "date, it might be possible to locate evidence of digging in the grassy area on top of this hill. We continued to"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "look around for a while and then returned to the barn. Hey, congratulations on being thorough here."}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "I I do enjoy this police officer's uh gumption to follow up on such a report."}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "You know, normally a lot of this would have just been flippantly sort of handwavingly tossed aside, but the"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "officer in question here did feel like there was merit to at least looking into this. So, kudos. Officer Williams then"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "incorporated Miss Baldwin's notes into the official record as reported above. His next entry was as follows."}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "May 1, 1964. Upon checking the area with complainant Priscilla Baldwin, it was"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "noted that there was one set of tractor tracks near the scene of the reported incident. Gary stated that the first"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "time he went up the hill, he stopped the tractor about 100 yards from the top of the hill where the ship was reportedly"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "parked. And then he dismounted and walked the remainder of the hill to the top. Gary then stated that he returned"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "later that day and dropped off a bag of fertilizer at the site. He then stated that he again drove the tractor to the"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "top with complainant Priscilla Baldwin to show her the spot this incident reportedly occurred."}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "If this was the case, there should be two sets of tractor tracks near the site. One set when he brought the bag of"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "fertilizer to the spot and one set when he transported the complainant to the"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "site. There was only one set of tracks noted. It isn't likely that the tractor could"}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "get to this area without making some tracks, even if the ground were dry because of the incline is great. Well, I"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "mean, that's a big piece of evidence right there. I mean, this goes against what he said. You know, if he said, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "I went up there and I saw aliens and then took her up and there was no tractor tracks prior.\" I mean, that's"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "cause for doubt in my book. The following statements and diagram by Mr. Willox see figure 2 were obtained by"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "Sheriff Taylor and Officer Williams on May 1st. So this is when at 7:00 p.m. Gary goes to the sheriff's office and"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "decides to cooperate and give them a statement. Again, I don't see why Gary"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "would do any of this unless he had some type of psychotic break. Um, this just"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "seems really out of character for a guy who's just wants to be left alone on his farm. I, Gary Felbert Wilcox. Felbert,"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "huh? All right. Probably didn't want that public. I, Gary Thelbert Wilcox,"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "say that I am 28 years of age on the seventh day of this month. Having been born May 7th, 1936 at Endicott, New"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "York. I live at Road number one, Newark Valley, New York with my wife, Judith Linda. I am self-employed as a dairy"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "farmer. I graduated from Newark Valley Central School in 1954. At about 10:00 in the morning last"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "Friday, the 24th of April, 1964, I was spreading manure with my manure spreader, as one does, on one of my"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "fields located east of my house. My house is the second house on the left on Davis Hollow Road, which runs off Wilson"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "Creek Road out of Newark Valley. Okay, so first off, figure two. This is really"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "interesting. This is the the occupants and the UFO. Not an artist, this guy really. um you know left out a few"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "facial features here. Hopefully he gets into some of the description. The weather was clear and the sun was"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "shining. The ground was dry. I glanced up at the hill from the field I was working on and noticed a shiny object on"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "top of the hill. I thought at the time that it was the abandoned refrigerator that I knew was up there. After again"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "glancing, I noticed that the object did not seem to be the refrigerator, but that this was something else."}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "Then I started driving the tractor with the same manure spreader up the hill toward the object. The distance from the"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "bottom of the hill where I first noticed the object to the top of the hill where it appeared is about 800 y. While I was"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "driving up the hill toward the object and about 100 yard from it, this is when I thought it was a wing fuel tank from"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "an airplane. I wasn't scared or anything. I parked the tractor at this point and then walked the remaining 100"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "yard to the object. The first thing I noticed is that it was off the ground. It was a little bigger than a car in"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "length. It was an oblong shape, something like an egg. There were no seams, rivets, or anything like that. It"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "was completely smooth. It was aluminum colored. I touched the thing, and the metal was harder than aluminum, and it"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "did not move. I don't know whether it was on legs or hovering in the air. It was about 20 ft in length, 4 ft high,"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "and 15 or 16 ft wide. That's an interesting thing. Four feet"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "high is wild if these creatures are four to four and 1/2 ft tall. Unless um unless this craft goes vertically and"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "they're just kind of like in these little stasis pods, maybe laying down. Who knows? While I was feeling it, there"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "was no vibration or sound, and it was not hot or anything. While I was touching it, two small men about 4 ft"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "high came out from under the tank object. I don't know where they came from. Each of them was carrying a tray"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "about a foot square. The tray looked like it was made of the same stuff the ship was made of. Inside the tray was"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "what appeared to be saw. I was standing about a foot away from the ship. I will refer to this object as a ship from now"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "on. I first thought it to be a tank. Two little men started walking toward me"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "from under the ship. They stopped about 1 yard away from me. Then it sounded like one of them spoke and said, \"Don't"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "be alarmed. We have spoken to people before.\" Their voices did not sound like a voice I could describe. I could"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "understand what was said but could not tell whether they were speaking English or not. One of the men was standing in"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "rear of the other. I could see that both of these 4-ft high men had arms and legs"}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "the same as us. I couldn't tell whether they had feet or hands the same as us."}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "They were quite broad for such short persons or individuals. I could not distinguish whether they had"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "shoulders or not. They seemed to just go straight down."}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "They had no face such as eyes, ears, nose, mouth, or hair. The voice seemed"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "to be coming from about them rather than from either of them. There was a voice,"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "but I don't know where it was coming from in so far as their body was concerned. They seemed to have a sort of"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "suit on that covered where the head would normally be located all the way down. When they raised their arms, you"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "could see a wrinkle where their elbow would be located. The color of this completely smooth coverall type suit was"}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "whitish aluminum tint color. There was no evidence of hair. There were no seams or stitches, pockets. The only thing I"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "noticed was the wrinkle when they moved their arms at the elbow. They said, \"We are from what you know as the planet"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "Mars.\" All right, we're dealing with Martians. They then asked me what I was doing. I told them what I was doing was"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "spreading manure. They asked me to explain uh what this was in more or less"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "detail. They seemed interested in what this manure did. After I told them what it was and where it came from, they"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "asked what else I made stuff grow with it. That's when I told them about the lime and fertilizer. They did not say"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "anything about the lime, but were interested in the fertilizer. I told them it was made of bones from dead"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:34", "text": "animals. During the time I was explaining to them the function of fertilizer, they asked if they could"}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "have some. I told them that I would have to go down to my barn and get some. Then one spoke up, said that they were"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "traveling this hemisphere. I don't know which one it was. As I have said before, the voice seemed to come"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "from the front one, the one closest to me. I then asked them if I could go. They then said that they could only come"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "here on Earth every 2 years. Their conversation seemed to shift rapidly from one subject to another. That's"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "interesting. Just little add aliens. They mentioned that we should not send people out into space. They said that"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "they have watched us. They said that we could not survive uh there at Mars and"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "that they could not survive here on Earth. They also said that they got stuff out of the air to live on and that"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "they were here to see what they could learn about our organic material because they felt that the Earth and Mars plus"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "some other planets might be changed around. They said there was a difference in the gravity pole and that there was a"}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "change taking place. They said they did not fly near cities because the fumes or"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "stuff in the air affected the flight of their ship. That they tried to stay where the air was pure. They seem to"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "know more about planets, air, and all that kind of stuff, but they did not seem to know much about our agriculture."}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "They also said that our people that had entered into space would not survive over a year. They then walked back onto"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "the ship and disappeared. They ducked a little bit when they went under it. The ship then seemed to hover. I heard a"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "noise that sounded like a car motor idling. It was not loud. Then it just took off slowly forward above the ground"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "in a gliding manner and flew over the valley in the direction of Sakaloski's"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "barn and disappeared into the air after it was about 150 ft away. There was no heat, blasting, wind, dust, noise other"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "than the idling sound, light, or anything else left behind when the ship took off. Okay, that's interesting."}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:36", "text": "It's weird that they would know about like space and all this stuff but not know anything about agriculture and then"}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "happen upon, you know, a farmer to give them uh some information. This also, this whole thing falls into my system"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "theory as well, that maybe you're just interacting with some type of drone that"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "is taking, you know, samples from this biome and injecting it into perhaps"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "another exoplanet that they are occupying elsewhere and that we're just interchanging, you know, life forms and"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:07", "text": "agriculture and all sorts of elements between these planets to keep them going. Far-fetched idea, I am aware, but"}, {"start": "00:39:07", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "here we are, right? They did not try to harm me in any way, and there was nothing with them that looked like a"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:17", "text": "weapon. They did not raise or lower their voice. It was the same throughout the conversation. They did most of the"}, {"start": "00:39:17", "end": "00:39:23", "text": "talking. After they left, I drove back home and called my mother on the phone. I told her the highlights of seeing this"}, {"start": "00:39:23", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "object. I then milked the cows and did some other chores. Went back up the hill with a load of manure about 4:30 p.m."}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "and put a bag of fertilizer on the spreader. When I got back to the top of the hill where the ship had been, I dropped the bag of fertilizer to the"}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "ground and left it. The next morning, I went back up on the hill and noticed the bag of fertilizer was gone. I have read"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "this statement and it is true. I realize that the incident described above is unusual, but I do certify that it is a"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "true and accurate account of what actually happened. Signed, Gary Wilcox and witnesses George Williams and Paul"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "Taylor. So again, I mean, the uh officer Williams here who did his investigation"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "does bring up a fair point that there was only one set of tractor tracks leading up to the alleged encounter. You"}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:15", "text": "know, for me that is a big thing. Uh let's see if he addresses that, if they address that at all. It's a really"}, {"start": "00:40:15", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "interesting thing. I would love to hear his take on that. But last, we go into the psychiatric study and evaluation of"}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "Mr. Wilcox. So on October 18th, 1968, psychiatric examination of Gary Wilcox"}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "in his home corroborated all the salient features mentioned in Miss Baldwin's and Sheriff Taylor's reports. At the same"}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "time of the psychiatric study, Mr. Wilcox was no longer a farmer, but a highly skilled mechanic. He was"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "respected by his employer and had received several promotions. He had never had any UFO, psychic, or other"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "very unusual experiences before, nor has he since. Although he could not recall"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "any details, he mentioned that a neighbor told him about a close-range UFO experience at the approximate time"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:05", "text": "of his episode. And there's an asterisk here. It says, \"Although this could not be confirmed via correspondence with the"}, {"start": "00:41:05", "end": "00:41:12", "text": "deceased neighbor's wife, she reported that a respected gentleman of Berkshire, New York, was out in his field that day"}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "and saw something that was unexplainable.\" Also in a letter to the author, Walter Stevens recalled that he"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:25", "text": "and a friend saw a possible UFO that almost blinded us for a moment on April 18th, 1964 on Highway 38. Also, Mr."}, {"start": "00:41:25", "end": "00:41:30", "text": "Kobilards remembered how one or two people saw something UFOs near Gary"}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:37", "text": "Wilcox's farm that day. So, all right, circumstantial evidence, but um you"}, {"start": "00:41:37", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "know, worth mentioning. Mr. Wilcox's attitude was open and cooperative and produced no material that conflicted"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "with the previous reports. He spoke in a polite, refined manner, and his answers had a literalness about them. There was"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "no tendency towards expansiveness or embellishment. He was quite reserved. He was sure that"}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:02", "text": "he had seen only two occupants of the UFO and that at one time he was"}, {"start": "00:42:02", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "approximately 10 ft distant from one of them. He felt he could judge their height quite accurately because he is 6t"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "tall. When asked about his initial reaction to the supposed euphon, he"}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:20", "text": "said, \"I was laughing. I thought it was the candid camera. You know, somebody"}, {"start": "00:42:20", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "pulling a gag or something.\" Will Cox had no past history for neonatal disturbances, serious illness in the"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "formative years, neurotic character traits, dissociative or amnestic"}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "experiences, fugues, sociopathic behavior, school problems, head injury,"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "analopathy, analopathy,"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:52", "text": "surgery, or any kind of aarent behavior. He had never been hospitalized and he did not have a family physician. Review"}, {"start": "00:42:52", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "of all his bodily systems revealed no disease stigmata. He was a good student in school and had one semester in"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:05", "text": "college. He spent three years in the army being stationed in Germany. He was"}, {"start": "00:43:05", "end": "00:43:12", "text": "a sergeant in the engineers and received an honorable discharge. So here there's an asterisk beside his school stuff. It"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "says this was verified by the parents of two former schoolmates and longtime friends. Mr. Kobilart said, \"A"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "well-liked kid, modest and never a braggard of a reliable and hardworking family. He"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "knew it wasn't a mirage because he had his hand on it on the UFO."}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "They are very fine people. My brother has known his people for 40 years.\" Mrs. Beal wrote, \"Philip, her son, knows him,"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "was in his graduate school and says he is an honest person who wouldn't concoct a cockenbull story just to get"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:51", "text": "publicity.\" There's another asterisk here which says uh in regards to his service in Germany says that when Mr."}, {"start": "00:43:51", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "Kobilarts talked with Gary Wilcox, he asked if the UFO occupants were Russian. Wilcox said that they were not and they"}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "had no accent. He was familiar with many foreign accents from his army service in Germany. And this is also echoed in his"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "telephone interview. He says that he uh either spoke or heard German and Russian quite a bit and it did not sound like"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "that at all. So, the oldest of four siblings, Gary Wilcox, has a sister,"}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:21", "text": "Sandra, who is 2 years younger, and two brothers, Barry and Floyd, who are four and seven years younger. There was no"}, {"start": "00:44:21", "end": "00:44:27", "text": "family history of mental illness, sociopathic behavior such as lying, stealing, cheating, truency, fire"}, {"start": "00:44:27", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "setting, delinquency, drug usage, alcoholism, etc., or difficulties with the law. He is of old American stock and"}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "his family has an excellent reputation in the community. Gary Wilcox has always"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:47", "text": "enjoyed good health and has rarely consulted physicians. He seldom dreamed and could not recall any particular"}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:52", "text": "dream, including one about his UFO experience. So, just a simple guy, just"}, {"start": "00:44:52", "end": "00:44:59", "text": "a mildmannered farm boy, veteran, upstanding citizen,"}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:05", "text": "good classmate, you know, nothing no sign of crazy whatsoever."}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:10", "text": "which makes this even more perplexing because there is contradicting evidence"}, {"start": "00:45:10", "end": "00:45:16", "text": "and yet none of it points to him, you know, having some type of secret hidden agenda. Direct examination revealed him"}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:23", "text": "to be a tall, handsome, intelligent appearing man. See figure 3 who became restless and fidgety when describing his"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "encounter with the alleged UFO occupants. There was no evidence for any undue preoccupations, trends of thought,"}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:35", "text": "pathological thinking, or inappropriate effect. Within one hour after the UFO"}, {"start": "00:45:35", "end": "00:45:41", "text": "experience, Wilcox telephoned his mother and then the other members of his family quickly learned about it. Direct and"}, {"start": "00:45:41", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "telephone interviews with his mother and his two brothers confirmed this. So the asterisk here says Gary Wilcox had no"}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:53", "text": "knowledge of Sergeant Lonnie Zamora's UFO um occupant experience. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:45:53", "end": "00:45:59", "text": "interesting. Until shortly before May 11th when he brought an undated news clipping from his father to Sheriff"}, {"start": "00:45:59", "end": "00:46:05", "text": "Paula Taylor. Dad told me about it, came up to the house with it, the clipping about a week or so later after New York"}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:12", "text": "Valley UFO episode. It is of interest that many features of the Newark Valley and the Sakoro experiences are similar."}, {"start": "00:46:12", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "I think that is interesting as well. No one in his family had ever experienced anything like this before. Will Cox had"}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:24", "text": "no previous particular interest in UFOs or any other kind of exotic subject. His"}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:31", "text": "reading was limited to newspapers and magazines like Look, Life and the Reader Digest. Will Cox and the other members"}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:38", "text": "of his family gave no history for any unusual paranormal phenomena before or after this episode. He gave no history"}, {"start": "00:46:38", "end": "00:46:44", "text": "for unusual harassment since the episode. Will Cox had never been hypnotized. However, he was annoyed by"}, {"start": "00:46:44", "end": "00:46:49", "text": "various eccentrics and curiosity seekers who sought him out or ridiculed him. He"}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "was particularly irritated by one newspaper article that falsely stated he was being treated in a hospital in New"}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:47:01", "text": "York City for radiation burns. Although hardly affluent, Wilcox, according to"}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:08", "text": "his brother Floyd, turned down a considerable sum of money offered by a leading national magazine for the"}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "publication rights to his story. He also refused payments for lectures about his experience. He graciously consented to"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:22", "text": "psychiatric study and freely gave permission for publication of his story in a scientific journal with the"}, {"start": "00:47:22", "end": "00:47:30", "text": "understanding that his current address would not be revealed. That is to me one of the most"}, {"start": "00:47:30", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "important pieces of information here. This is we're not dealing with some type of UFO grifter. You know, he's not"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:43", "text": "doing any lectures, not selling a book, not doing any of that stuff. He had"}, {"start": "00:47:43", "end": "00:47:49", "text": "something happen. This is what happened. Back to work. Got to milk the cows. You"}, {"start": "00:47:49", "end": "00:47:55", "text": "know, in an interview, Gary Wilcox's second wife married for 2 years and after and after the UFO episode,"}, {"start": "00:47:55", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "confirming the foregoing UFO information. She described her husband as a quiet family man, conscientious,"}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "and doesn't easily lose his temper. Yet, he has a sense of humor. He did not use alcohol or tobacco and has always"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:13", "text": "enjoyed excellent health. There's an asterisk here. At the time of the UFO incident, he had not been under the"}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:20", "text": "influence of alcohol. During his farming years, he used alcohol only infrequently and sparingly. He occasionally attends"}, {"start": "00:48:20", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "the Baptist church. Questions pertaining to Gary Wilcox's past life and the personal nuances of his marriages. And"}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "then the asterisk here says his first marriage, which lasted only a short time, was terminated under amiable"}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "conditions because a lack of harmony of interests. as marriages elicited no evidence for any disrupting"}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:44", "text": "psychopathology, psychosmatic reactions, dishonesty, or proclivity for playing practical jokes"}, {"start": "00:48:44", "end": "00:48:51", "text": "or hoaxes. Mr. Wilcox was characterized as a serious, truthful, hard-working man"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "who had little time for frivolity. Got to milk those cows. No time for jokes. There was never any suggestion of"}, {"start": "00:48:57", "end": "00:49:04", "text": "jealousy or unfounded suspiciousness. His chief pleasure seemed to be playing with his children. two by his second"}, {"start": "00:49:04", "end": "00:49:11", "text": "wife and four adoptive children from his second wife's first marriage. Study of Gary Wilcox's and his wife's answers to"}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "Cornell Medical Index Health questionnaire Roder incomplete sentences test and the computer automated"}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:23", "text": "Minnesota multifphasic personality inventory revealed answers consistent"}, {"start": "00:49:23", "end": "00:49:29", "text": "with physical and emotional health. On the MMPI, a configural search for"}, {"start": "00:49:29", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "positive traits and strength showed correlations for describing the subject as compliant, methodical, orderly,"}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "socially reserved, and sincere. Well, there you have it. This guy checks out."}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:48", "text": "He's telling what he seems to be the truth. We can we can at least say that"}, {"start": "00:49:48", "end": "00:49:54", "text": "he he deems this happened and people believe him. All right. Discussion and"}, {"start": "00:49:54", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "summary. So although single witness UFO experiences uh that's right there that's probably why Blue Book never looked into"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:05", "text": "it. Actually we looked at the project Blue Book guidelines and it was one of the major things was they would never"}, {"start": "00:50:05", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "look into single UFO witness encounters. You know other than Joe Simon u it had a"}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "bit of an exception there because there were other sightings but you know also involve physical evidence. This one did"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:24", "text": "not. Although single witness UFO experiences of obvious drawbacks, Gary Wilcox's report is exceptional because"}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "of his unusually healthy background. During and after the purported incident, the rarity of such close-range UFO"}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:37", "text": "occupant encounters, and the difficulty and need for recording all data that might contribute to this multifaceted"}, {"start": "00:50:37", "end": "00:50:42", "text": "problem. Despite some explainable discrepancies, such as officer Williams observation that there was only one set"}, {"start": "00:50:42", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "of tractor tracks instead of two, Will Cox's account was essentially unchanged."}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:54", "text": "It should again be stressed that Gary Wilcox told his mother and other members of his family shortly after the incident"}, {"start": "00:50:54", "end": "00:51:01", "text": "and that it was not until several days later that he learned of the Sakuro, New Mexico episode involving officer Lonnie"}, {"start": "00:51:01", "end": "00:51:07", "text": "Zamora. It is odd that the widely reported and studied account of Lonnie Zamora occurred on the same day and"}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:13", "text": "approximately 8 hours earlier than Gary Wilcox had his experience. Recently, the"}, {"start": "00:51:13", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "Newark Valley incident has received renewed attention. The independent studies of Walter N Webb, the NYAP"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:25", "text": "adviser, and his associates and the NYAP file on the Newark Valley case"}, {"start": "00:51:25", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "uh provided detailed data and supplement and coincide with the material reported here. Should future investigations"}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:37", "text": "confirm the reality of such experiences for what actually seemed to happen or"}, {"start": "00:51:37", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "some new and strange kind of mental or psychic influence or the converse"}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:50", "text": "the discovery of some new and hitherto recognized type of psychopathology"}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:55", "text": "the psychiatric studies would still have significance. So I the psychiatric"}, {"start": "00:51:55", "end": "00:52:01", "text": "studies sorry would still have significance. I agree with this. This is something that I actually I was on the"}, {"start": "00:52:01", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "phone with Jesse Michaels earlier and we were talking about the abduction phenomenon as a whole and how you know"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:15", "text": "should the abduction phenomenon be completely categorized as a mental event"}, {"start": "00:52:15", "end": "00:52:22", "text": "in some capacity some type of psychological effect that the human mind goes through."}, {"start": "00:52:22", "end": "00:52:27", "text": "the fact that there are thousands and I mean tens of thousands of people who"}, {"start": "00:52:27", "end": "00:52:32", "text": "claim abduction and many of them also claim not only the same type of beings,"}, {"start": "00:52:32", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "the same type of craft but also the same type of procedures being done to them and the"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:45", "text": "same messages being delivered to them. I think that would be just as important"}, {"start": "00:52:45", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "as aliens existing, knowing that there is some type of psychological pandemic"}, {"start": "00:52:53", "end": "00:53:00", "text": "that is sweeping the globe and providing people with these mass"}, {"start": "00:53:00", "end": "00:53:05", "text": "hallucinations. I think that is just as significant as an alien. Maybe not as"}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:12", "text": "significant, but I mean equally as interesting. I mean, what's going on here? If all these people are just all"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:18", "text": "in cahoots or or or they're all, you know, like I said, hallucinating the"}, {"start": "00:53:18", "end": "00:53:24", "text": "same thing or having the exact same dreams and in these dreams having the same experience. It's just it seems so"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:33", "text": "far-fetched. It seems so much easier on the AAM's razor to be like, \"No, it's aliens.\" I don't know. Just me?"}, {"start": "00:53:33", "end": "00:53:38", "text": "Maybe not. Maybe you disagree. Study of the UFO occupant problem is still at an"}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:46", "text": "early explorative qualitative stage. Had circumstances permitted, it would have been desirable to have had additional"}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:53", "text": "procedures such as a physical and neurological examination, an electro and sephilogram, polygraphic"}, {"start": "00:53:53", "end": "00:54:00", "text": "studies, hypnotic trance, laboratory, and some complete psychometric evaluations. It is the it is unfortunate"}, {"start": "00:54:00", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "that it was not possible at the time of this report in 1969 to have traced out more completely the various collateral"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:13", "text": "leads as suggested by the situations of Kobils Stevens and McFersonson. I agree"}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:20", "text": "you know uh hypnotic regression would have been great. Uh polygraph just you know lie detector but does that really"}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:26", "text": "get us anywhere? You know you look at Travis Walton when all seven of these gentlemen pass a lie detector test. uh"}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:31", "text": "Betty Hill also passed a lie detector test is that you know perhaps it does"}, {"start": "00:54:31", "end": "00:54:37", "text": "increase the percentage of conviction of these cases being true uh but it"}, {"start": "00:54:37", "end": "00:54:44", "text": "certainly doesn't prove them true as has been pointed out by Keel who has had much experience with alleged contactees"}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "the interpretation of what was supposed to have happened is an entirely open question for example that the occupants"}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "said they came from Mars does not mean that they did come from Mars there's an asterisk here that says it should be"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:55:03", "text": "noted that Peter Gilman called attention to unusual compatibility between what Martians told Gary Wilcox and what Dr."}, {"start": "00:55:03", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "Emanuel Velikowski has theorized. Everything that the contacties or euphon"}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "uh reputably said should be critically analyzed from many points of view."}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:21", "text": "Truthfulness, purposely implanted lies, distorted propaganda, material that could be communicated and understood"}, {"start": "00:55:21", "end": "00:55:27", "text": "only by one of Gary Wilcox's psychonamic makeup. possibly of telepathy and so"}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "forth. Unfortunately, the facts do not justify much speculation in this regard."}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "You know, I agree with that as well. But yes, it could be aliens just soping people or, you know, what have you. Or"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "maybe it's humans in these suits. You know, these were suits. Maybe these were tiny people. I don't know. Who knows? It"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:54", "text": "would be most unusual, however, for Gary Wilcox to concoct such a fantastic story without some clues for this from his"}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "psychiatric examination or from interviews with his friends, acquaintances, and family. It should be"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:04", "text": "stressed that as a down-to-earth person, a highly skilled machinist with a rather"}, {"start": "00:56:04", "end": "00:56:10", "text": "literal frame of mind, Will Cox never showed any unusual interest in UFOs or"}, {"start": "00:56:10", "end": "00:56:16", "text": "space. He had no undue preoccupation with abstruse esoteric matters, quasi"}, {"start": "00:56:16", "end": "00:56:23", "text": "religious cults, or off-beat stories before or since the episode. The euphanat's prophecy of the death in"}, {"start": "00:56:23", "end": "00:56:29", "text": "space of some astronauts was not completely fulfilled. As stated, however, it is of interest that Virgil"}, {"start": "00:56:29", "end": "00:56:34", "text": "A. Gryom along with Edward H. White and Roger B. Chaffy died in the tragic"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:41", "text": "Apollo capsule fire on January 27th, 1967. Although not specifically named by the"}, {"start": "00:56:41", "end": "00:56:46", "text": "euthanauts, Russian astronaut Vladimir Komarov was the first man known to have"}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:53", "text": "been killed in actual space flight when his capsule plunged to Earth under unopened parachutes. April 24th, same"}, {"start": "00:56:53", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "date, 1967, exactly 3 years after the prophecy. There's an asterisk here talks"}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:05", "text": "about uh Comro how he was scheduled to orbit for at least 5 days, but according to London newspaper man, um he returned"}, {"start": "00:57:05", "end": "00:57:10", "text": "to Earth after 24 hours. recording of radio transmissions indicates that the spacecraft's crew had seen something"}, {"start": "00:57:10", "end": "00:57:17", "text": "strange and inexplicable in orbit. Something that terrified them so much that they made a hasty and unscheduled"}, {"start": "00:57:17", "end": "00:57:24", "text": "descent from space. It may be proper to mention here that Comarov through an interpreter told the world famous"}, {"start": "00:57:24", "end": "00:57:31", "text": "telepathist Joseph Duninger during a banquet at Benjamin Franklin Hotel at the Seattle World's Fair 1962 that he"}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:36", "text": "comarov had observed during spaceflight strange fantasms, odd things that"}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:42", "text": "appeared before his eyes. He was sure that his mind was not playing tricks on him and that it was not an illusion."}, {"start": "00:57:42", "end": "00:57:48", "text": "Duninger was impressed with Comrav's openness. Although there was a language barrier, Duninger recalled how he also"}, {"start": "00:57:48", "end": "00:57:55", "text": "tried a telepathic stunt with Comarov. I never got an analysis of what I drew on my pad, something that I saw in my"}, {"start": "00:57:55", "end": "00:58:00", "text": "mind's mirror. However, according to Comarov's reaction in that of the interpreter, Duninger succeeded. The"}, {"start": "00:58:00", "end": "00:58:05", "text": "author clearly recalled this unusual interview because Duninger had given him an autographed photograph of Komarov and"}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:11", "text": "Dunager in May 1965. It may also be noted here that the reporter Sandham"}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:18", "text": "quoted observations of strange space objects by American astronauts, the NBC monitored space flight of Gordon Cooper"}, {"start": "00:58:18", "end": "00:58:25", "text": "May 15th, 1963 of two Edward White and uh James McDivet"}, {"start": "00:58:25", "end": "00:58:30", "text": "June 1965 and three of James Levelvel and Frank Borman December 65. Another"}, {"start": "00:58:30", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "astronaut sighting according to the UFO investigator is that of Charles Conrad in September 1966. Okay, so we see a lot"}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:44", "text": "of astronauts seeing a lot of things. This doesn't necessarily corroborate the prophecy that was given to Mr. Willox by"}, {"start": "00:58:44", "end": "00:58:50", "text": "the beings. However, it would be of interest since many contact experiences alleged telepathic communications to"}, {"start": "00:58:50", "end": "00:58:56", "text": "have a proven eminent telepathist work with them and study what impressions"}, {"start": "00:58:56", "end": "00:59:02", "text": "telepathic thoughts might be received. It is not far-fetched that someone like Duninger, who has amazed the world for"}, {"start": "00:59:02", "end": "00:59:07", "text": "more than 50 years with his extraordinary mental abilities and who has also successfully used his talents"}, {"start": "00:59:07", "end": "00:59:13", "text": "to aid the police in solutions of crimes and physicians in the treatments of diseases might be able to recall"}, {"start": "00:59:13", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "material forgotten by the contactee. Such repressed data accessible to a"}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:25", "text": "paragnost might provide further clues in the study of such cases. All right, I'm going to draw the line right there. Um,"}, {"start": "00:59:25", "end": "00:59:32", "text": "sounds to me like someone is a magician. Maybe just me. All right, maybe he is a telepathist. Telepathy is a wild thing"}, {"start": "00:59:32", "end": "00:59:37", "text": "to put on your resume. Okay. Keel has documented some unusual instances of"}, {"start": "00:59:37", "end": "00:59:43", "text": "successful prophecy in connections with UFOs. However, as described elsewhere,"}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:50", "text": "nothing in the medical aspect of a possible human UFO occupant experience is applicable to the situation of Gary"}, {"start": "00:59:50", "end": "00:59:56", "text": "Wilcox. As in the examples of Miss Stickler and Mrs. Carol Wilcox also had"}, {"start": "00:59:56", "end": "01:00:03", "text": "no mental disturbance, no history of being hypnotized, no suggestion of paranoid thinking, no hints of specific"}, {"start": "01:00:03", "end": "01:00:10", "text": "psychopathology, and no cultural religious-like determinance that could account for his experience. Although"}, {"start": "01:00:10", "end": "01:00:17", "text": "inexplicable, there is much in Gary Wilcox's encounter with the UFO and its occupants that sounds like data obtained"}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:23", "text": "from other worldwide sources. There might be considerable value in psychiatric study of many more contact"}, {"start": "01:00:23", "end": "01:00:29", "text": "experiences. It is ironic that the billions are spent to put men on the moon in order to probe the secrets of"}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:37", "text": "space. Yet apparently little attention is paid to the possibility that forms of life euphon from somewhere in the"}, {"start": "01:00:37", "end": "01:00:42", "text": "universe, possibly outer space, may have already landed on Earth. In summary,"}, {"start": "01:00:42", "end": "01:00:47", "text": "Gary Wilcox, almost 28 years old and a farmer of New York Valley, New York,"}, {"start": "01:00:47", "end": "01:00:54", "text": "claimed he had a close range experience with a UFO and two of its occupants."}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:00:59", "text": "From psychiatric evaluation of Will Cox and interviews with various members of his family, neighbors, and friends, it"}, {"start": "01:00:59", "end": "01:01:04", "text": "would seem that he is a truthful person with no emotional illness and that his"}, {"start": "01:01:04", "end": "01:01:11", "text": "experience was real, even though the interpretation of his encounter is a complicated and uncertain matter. The"}, {"start": "01:01:11", "end": "01:01:19", "text": "author thanks Gary Wilcox and the many other people mentioned and unmentioned in this study for their indispensable"}, {"start": "01:01:19", "end": "01:01:24", "text": "help. That wraps up the case of Gary Wilcox. Man, that's an interesting one."}, {"start": "01:01:24", "end": "01:01:30", "text": "So, I had not heard about Gary Wilcox prior to this. I didn't know that it was a thing. I didn't know that this had"}, {"start": "01:01:30", "end": "01:01:36", "text": "happened to him at the exact same time almost um of the encounter in Sakuro,"}, {"start": "01:01:36", "end": "01:01:42", "text": "New Mexico. It is vexing to think that"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:48", "text": "he is telling the truth when when there is such a in my opinion blatant piece of"}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:54", "text": "evidence that negates the idea of him going up there with his tractor multiple times. I think that that is unless he"}, {"start": "01:01:54", "end": "01:02:00", "text": "took a different way up unless something else. Maybe that feeling of guilt is"}, {"start": "01:02:00", "end": "01:02:06", "text": "what prevented Gary from following the sheriff up there in the first place. Maybe had Gary gone up that hill with"}, {"start": "01:02:06", "end": "01:02:13", "text": "the sheriff, he'd be perhaps pointing out the fact that there was only one track there. Maybe we'd get some more"}, {"start": "01:02:13", "end": "01:02:19", "text": "answers. I wish they would have brought that up to him. Unfortunate that uh they did not cuz that one really is like a"}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:27", "text": "thorn in my side. But other than that, it is compelling. Put that aside. All right. Maybe there's a mishap. Maybe it's a different trail. Maybe it got"}, {"start": "01:02:27", "end": "01:02:33", "text": "maybe took the exact same trail up than he did. you know, he he just like rolled in the same tracks, which I mean, come"}, {"start": "01:02:33", "end": "01:02:39", "text": "on. That that's a possibility, especially if it's muddy. Put putting all that aside, it is pretty compelling."}, {"start": "01:02:39", "end": "01:02:45", "text": "If this is a lie and a sham or some type of hoax or weird joke,"}, {"start": "01:02:45", "end": "01:02:50", "text": "you know, but again, like I mean, I I I can't see a reason why. The only the"}, {"start": "01:02:50", "end": "01:02:59", "text": "only thing I can kind of you know maybe as a farmer he was kind of against new tech being you know from the earth being"}, {"start": "01:02:59", "end": "01:03:06", "text": "somebody who has their hands in soil and works with cattle and drives tractors. Maybe all this talk about going to"}, {"start": "01:03:06", "end": "01:03:13", "text": "space. It's 1964. They were talking about going to, you know, they were going to space. They were talking about going to the moon and all this stuff."}, {"start": "01:03:13", "end": "01:03:19", "text": "Maybe that got under his skin and maybe he's like, \"Hey, let's focus on what's going on here.\" interesting that they"}, {"start": "01:03:19", "end": "01:03:25", "text": "took an interest to the things that he was interested in. He was like, \"No, no, they asked me about all this stuff that I love, you know, and I told him it's,"}, {"start": "01:03:25", "end": "01:03:32", "text": "you know, awesome and they liked it, too.\" And I don't know. I'm just kind of thinking out loud here. None of that"}, {"start": "01:03:32", "end": "01:03:39", "text": "seems like a good reason to go to a police station and tell them an insane"}, {"start": "01:03:39", "end": "01:03:45", "text": "confabulation. None of that seems to add up for me. Coupled with the fact that he's completely sane, I don't know what"}, {"start": "01:03:45", "end": "01:03:51", "text": "else to say. I'm 50/50 on this one. Let me know what you guys think. My conviction level is at a neutral"}, {"start": "01:03:51", "end": "01:03:58", "text": "standstill. I would love to hear your thoughts on the Gary Wilcox case. I want to thank you guys for watching this"}, {"start": "01:03:58", "end": "01:04:04", "text": "episode. You know, we like to cover cold cases here, cases that maybe have flown"}, {"start": "01:04:04", "end": "01:04:10", "text": "under the radar, so to speak. Last week, if you haven't checked it out, I did a road trip to New Hampshire with my buddy"}, {"start": "01:04:10", "end": "01:04:15", "text": "Nelson Delos, and we traced the Betty and Barney Hill route uh on the same"}, {"start": "01:04:15", "end": "01:04:20", "text": "date, on the same time as uh was their abduction, and that was really"}, {"start": "01:04:20", "end": "01:04:27", "text": "interesting. Um that video is also flown under the radar, but if you guys want to check it out, I put a lot of work into"}, {"start": "01:04:27", "end": "01:04:32", "text": "it. It is uh it is objectively really good. I I I enjoyed making that um quite"}, {"start": "01:04:32", "end": "01:04:37", "text": "a bit. And I also got to interview uh Kathleen Martin, an expert on her aunt"}, {"start": "01:04:37", "end": "01:04:44", "text": "Betty Hills case. Folks, that about wraps it up for today. We got a really special guest next week, and I cannot"}, {"start": "01:04:44", "end": "01:04:50", "text": "wait to share that with you. If you're a member, uh you already know what's up."}, {"start": "01:04:50", "end": "01:04:57", "text": "If you're an intern, you you know, you got the you got the skinny already. Uh but for the rest of you, you're going to have to wait and see. Have an awesome"}, {"start": "01:04:57", "end": "01:05:03", "text": "day, and we'll see you on the next video. Peace and love."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "On the night of September 19th, 1961, Betty and Barney Hill were driving home to Portsouth, New Hampshire when they"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "claimed they were taken aboard a craft not of this Earth. Their story became one of the most famous and controversial"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "abduction cases in history. A case that still echoes through UFO research to"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "this day. 64 years later, my friend Nelson and I set to retrace their exact"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "pilgrimage from Montreal down through the mountains of New Hampshire on the same date at the same hour to step"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "directly into their path to see what they saw and to feel the weight of that"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "night for ourselves. And to help us tell this story with the depth it deserves, I reached out to"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "Betty Hill's own niece, Kathleen Martin, one of the foremost experts on her aunt's case and a voice that has carried"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "the Hill legacy forward for decades. This is our journey into the unknown,"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "following the footsteps of Betty and Barney Hill."}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "Well, I have never stopped investigating Betty and Barney's case. And uh so I"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "have always sought out scientists who uh had laboratories and could uh do a"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "scientific analysis of the evidence. I have always delved deeper and deeper"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "into archival records also investigation of their case myself to carrying it to"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "the furthest extent possible. So back when Stanton Freriedman and I published"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "uh our first book in 2007, we had a certain amount of information"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "and evidence that we had collected to that point. But over the years, much"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "more has taken place. Betty and Barney Hill were an interracial couple living in Portsouth, New Hampshire. Betty was a social"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "worker. Barney was a postal clerk and civil rights advocate. In midepptember 1961, they embarked on a"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "spontaneous road trip to Montreal and Niagara Falls. The journey was unplanned"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "and they traveled without formal reservations, choosing motel as they went. What they experienced on their"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "return journey changed their lives forever. So, why did they take this trip? Well,"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "uh, Betty and Barney were visiting my childhood home in August of 1961. I had"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "been to Niagara Falls with Betty's sister and uh her husband, my aunt and"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "uncle, another one, and my cousin, and I was showing them my photographs of"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "Niagara Falls and talking about how much I enjoyed the trip. And Barney turned to"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "Betty and said, \"Do you think you'd like to go there sometime?\" And he decided to surprise her with this trip to Niagara"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "Falls. They went on to Montreal and had an enjoyable time. They were just"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "tourists, you know, having a great time together, enjoying one another's company, uh, doing that kind of thing."}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "And then they were going to spend the night in Montreal, but they had a dog,"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "their dog with them. And so they were going to have to stay on the outskirts of the city. And uh, Barney was driving"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "toward that area. There was uh heavy traffic. It was late in the afternoon"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "and people were getting out of work and Barney decided that he would just"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "continue driving and then if they grew tired, they could stop for the night. On the evening of September 19th, they"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "began their return drive from Montreal, heading south through Vermont and into New Hampshire. Their route took them"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "along US Route 3, a scenic but isolated stretch winding through the White Mountains. Folks, I am currently on my"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "way to Betty and Barney Hill's house. Today is September 19th, the exact day that Betty"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "and Barney Hill left from Montreal to New Hampshire and where their famous"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "story begins. I'm not doing this trip alone. I'm doing this trip with Nelson. He's on a phone call right now, but"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "together we are going to try and retrace the steps. We've mapped out every single"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "stop that they've taken along the way. So, first stop is going to be Coet Cook,"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "Quebec, which is a small town in Quebec. This is before we cross the border into"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "the United States. Uh they stopped there for a quick snack. There was a stop before they went to Coat Cookook"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "really at a hot dog stand and then they stopped again at Coat Cookook because the"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "language was the the menu was in French. They just kind of pointed to what they"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "wanted and they received something different than they thought they were going to get. So they got uh they got potato chips"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "instead of French fries. I see."}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "This is the last stop before the border. And it's funny cuz we found this diner. There are a few restaurants in this"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "town. Not very many. It's a small town. But we found this particular diner. And I asked the guy who's working at the"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "cash. says like, \"How long has this been around?\" And he said, \"At least the '60s.\" And so there's a big chance that"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "this might have been the actual diner that Betty and Barney Hill stopped at, but they were so offput by the French"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "because they came from Montreal where, you know, generally bilingual, but out in these little townships, they're"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "primarily French. And so something got lost in translation and were actually served potato chips instead of fries,"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "making it, you know, bit of a modest meal. It was 172 mi to customs in Cananan. They stop for a brief snack in"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "Kodicook and it ends in a French English menu mixup. They continue south and pass"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "US customs at Cananan at approximately 9:00 p.m. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "All right, we just crossed the border from uh Canada into Vermont. Tiniest of"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "border patrols, just one guy in a tiny little I wish you would have filmed it. I know. We uh he was curious about what"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "we were doing here and we explained the whole thing and then we just asked him if he had any experiences out here and"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "he went into this whole story about his was his father-in-law his father-in-law in the late '7s."}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "Well, him and his now deceased wife had seen something walking on the ground in this area like not just something in the"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "sky. Did he say also there he said he said there was a craft and then there was beings on the ground."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "Yeah. And he said big heads. Yeah. I asked like is there any features these like big sort of round heads?"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "Yeah. And I asked him if he would be willing to be on camera and talk about it. He's like, I don't, you know, you could tell"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "he was very reluctant. But man, we just crossed the border. Yeah. And we get a story like that. Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "So cool. I have done investigations in that part of New Hampshire. When I lived in New"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "Hampshire, I no longer do. There were many reports. I should say several, you"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "know, not many, but several reports of either abductions or close encounters."}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "And right before we cross the border, too, like it was just golden hours, beautiful. And we started listening to some music that was I don't know what"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "what would you say? Like I'd say like meditation. Yeah, meditative music. I don't know. We were just alone. Nothing on the street,"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "nobody driving by us. And Chris goes, \"Show us something. Come on. Give us this time. We're here.\" And then I"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "you not, like barely a minute later, there was a a baby uh moose that just came on the"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "road. I've never seen one before in person. Um and of all times for it to"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "show up, it just like ran with us as we drove by it. It was beautiful and majestic. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "You know, you're out here to see aliens, but here's something that's alien to you. Here's something you've never seen"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "that's on your own planet. You know, you're so worried about what's out there in the universe that you forget that"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "there's so many beautiful things that you haven't even seen here."}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "From here, it's 185 mi to Portsouth. The ETA is about 2 or 3:00 a.m. if all goes"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "well. They reached Coldbrook, New Hampshire, and stopped at Howard's Restaurant. We stopped in Colberg and"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "had a lunch and had gas put in the cap because we knew we'd be heading down"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "Route 3 through the White Mountain National Forest. Barney ordered a cheeseburger, Betty, a"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "chocolate cake and coffee. They checked their watches. 10:05 p.m. The night was"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "still young and the road ahead was clear. It was Howard's restaurant and it did have a counter and it had a dining"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "room and so they sat at the counter and the Barney ordered a hamburger and Betty"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "had a piece of chocolate cake and a cup of coffee. They both had coffee um to carry them through uh their ride, their"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "drive home. And this was an important stop not for, you know, nothing big happened at the"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "stop, but it was a point where they remember looking at the time. Yeah, they they looked at the time and um on the"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "clock and they looked at the time on their watches. Their watches were running. They uh wound their watches."}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "They did everything they needed to do to prepare for that drive home. We already got our food. We're good. I I"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "guess they didn't like the chips that they were served at this other place. So that they came here and had a you know a"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "nice American burger instead. Regression session number one for Barney. Barney"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "begins by recounting the final leg of the trip from Montreal. He's calm but guarded, describing the drive through"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "Vermont and into New Hampshire. The road is quiet, the night cool. He notes the"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "isolation of the mountain pass and the occasional stops to let Deli, their dog, out. In Betty's third regression"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "session, she recounts the light. Betty's first session mirrors the drive. She's"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "more composed, more cautious. She notes a bright star in the sky. This"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "was a normal star and she didn't take much notice. But later she would notice a large bright light nearby to this"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "star. A light that wasn't there previously. And this caught her attention."}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "It wasn't until they were south of Lancaster, New Hampshire, where um Betty"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "saw a new light in the sky and it moved in a way that she had never seen before."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "So she started to to watch it to try to identify what it was. So my wife remarked, I was driving the"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "car and she remarked that the star had began to move. So this caused me to look"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "through the windshield up toward the sky and I told her that it was probably a satellite. Nothing to get alarmed about."}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "We did have a pair of 7x50 crescent binoculars with us. So, I stopped the"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "car and we got out and she took the binoculars and was looking at the object"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "and I reached under the seat to get our little doggy, a little dachshun, and put the chain on her to walk her about while"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "my wife was looking at the object. All of a sudden, I saw what I thought"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "was a new star in the sky. While I'm watching this, it began to move. So, we"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "knew it was a satellite. So, we stopped the car to get out with a binoculars to"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "look at the satellite. And while we're watching this, it turned"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "and started to come in towards us. Uh, but that object started following their vehicle and came in closer and"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "closer. So, they made uh three stops just so that Barney could look at it,"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "but he did they didn't uh leave the car on those other stops. They might have just stopped in the side of the road or"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "in the middle of the road. There wasn't much traffic on the road that night. It moved erratically, arcing across the"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "stars. She watched it with growing curiosity. Barney, ever the skeptic, dismissed it as a plane or satellite,"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "but the light didn't behave like any aircraft they knew. It shifted, hovered, and seemed to follow them. We just left"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "Howard's restaurant where Betty and Barney Hill uh shared a little dinner. And now we're on What is this? What road"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "is this? Route three. Route three. So, about 30 m south of where we just"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "were and about Yeah. about 20 miles from here, Betty notices something in the"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "sky. This is the first sighting. We have our night vision camera. At some point,"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "we're going to stop. We're going to do some sky watching. Maybe we'll see something. We're going to pull over soon and we'll have a look. But we're right"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "on time. If something's going to happen, it's going to be tonight. Yeah. Currently filming on my night vision camera"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "because that's the Milky Way, folks. Just decided because the sky"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "was so visible. There's a lot of traffic unfortunately."}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "This is probably the best night sky I've ever seen. Think so? Yeah. Like that's the Milky Way right"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "there, man. That's crazy. Betty has a bit of a curious nature about her. She's"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "definitely uh seems to be someone who, you know, is kind of has a more like sort of wondrous attitude and like, hey,"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "what is this? This is unique. This seems abnormal. Whereas Barney certainly uh"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "meets her with a little bit more skepticism towards these things. And he was definitely, you know, trying to"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "convince her, maybe himself at the same time, that this was just sort of a prosaic object like some plane or"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "satellite. Absolutely. he was giving her a hard time. Um, which he enjoyed doing. He"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "chuckled about this. Um, he loved to tease Betty. He believed it was"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "impossible. Whereas, uh, Betty uh, wasn't certain."}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "She thought that it could be true, but she had never read any books on it or,"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "you know, watched any shows on it or anything like that. So, I see, you know, that was her position. She was curious."}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "I'm curious, too. She recalls urging Barney to stop. She's frustrated by his skepticism. She wants"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "to understand what she's seeing. Betty's excitement grew. She eventually"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "convinced Barney to stop and the pair pulled over near Mount Cleveland picnic area."}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "We continued driving south and my wife would occasionally remark that this"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "object was still following us. It was flying in a very erratic pattern and she wanted me to stop and I would"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "occasionally and look over in toward her side and I could see that this uh light was still out there moving about. It"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "would go up and then it would come down at very rapid and odd patterns of flight. I'm watching us through the binoculars"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "very unusual uh zigzagging go acting like a yo-yo going up and down"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "spinning. She convinced Barney to pull over um south of Twin Mountain, which is"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "north of Franconia Notch. She used the excuse that the dog needed to be walked"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "and otherwise Barney would not have stopped. So, they got out of the car and"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "uh since they were in a wilderness area and there were wild animals"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "that might possibly come out of the woods at night, uh and he was walking the dog and relieving himself. Uh he"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "went into the wheel well of the trunk and took out a weapon that he had uh put"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "there when he they were packing to leave on their trip. We are currently at where"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "Barney took the dog out for a walk. This is It says it's like a scenic area. It's"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "literally right on the highway and then there's a trail that says it leads into"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "the dark woods and it says uh toilet two miles. I took two steps into the forest"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "and it was dark and I heard a sound and I'm like no thank you. So instead, what we're going to do is we're going to find a dirt path somewhere, get off the main"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "road because right now it's a little early and I feel like if we're going to see something, it's going to happen"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "after midnight. Barney walks Deli while Betty peered through binoculars. The object was closer now, silent, luminous,"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "and deliberate in its movements. She expressed irritation at Barney, who seemed to be trying to ignore what was"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "happening and refusing to believe. It almost reads like, \"If I don't admit it, it's not real.\" Despite recalling, \"This"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "is strange. I cannot tell. I cannot hear a motor.\" He convinces himself that this is just a plane."}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "Barney, that is not a plane. It is still following us."}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "And I stop and I look and I see it is still out"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "there off in the distance. So, I search for a place to pull off the"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "road. And I see a dirt road"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "to the right of the main highway."}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "And I think this is a good place I can pull off. And if any car comes, I it won't strike"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "me. One mile south of Canon Mountain, they stopped again. The craft hovered beside"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "the old man of the mountain. A rock profile etched into the cliffside. It spun like a top, tilted vertically, and"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "descended in a stairst step motion. Barney described it as a ball bouncing"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "on a paddle. I think of a paddle and a ball with a"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "rubber and you hit the ball"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "and the ball goes straight out and come straight back"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "without a circle. This was uh a spot where they truly realized that there was"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "no prosaic explanation for this uh observation of an aerial vehicle because"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "uh the old man of the mountains profile is 48 ft from forehead to chin and uh it"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "this craft was at least 1 and 1/2 times the length of the profile and it was it"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "had a twinkling effect because it was rotating And then uh it started to bounce back"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "and forth in the sky. Now today, military officers who have seen these things uh compare it to uh a ping pong"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "ball. So we just got to Old Man of the Mountain. It's this"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "massive mountain that you're seeing here. This is shot with the night vision camera. Um try not to be too loud."}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "There's people here parked here as well. I don't know if they're also, you know, trying to reroute Betty and Barney Hills"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "abduction, but uh did a little bit of sky watching actually just a second ago"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "and um as we were looking up, we saw a few meteors, you know, whatever shooting stars, but then there was this like"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "clear flash in the sky that wasn't It was just one flash. I was like, \"Oh, that's weird.\" What was that?"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "You saw it, too, right? It flashed like three times."}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "Didn't film it in time, but don't really know. You know, it's it's a flash. What are we talking about here? Space debris,"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "maybe. I don't know. Now, while passing near the old man of the mountain, they had direct line of sight to the object"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "as it moved between the mountain peaks. One of the mountain peaks was right here. That's what I was filming. The"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "other mountain peak, my guess, would be on the other side. So, this would have been exactly where they saw this craft."}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "This location is critical because this is where it turned from curiosity for Betty and Barney Hill into fear. This is"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "where the tension started growing where they started to get scared. It wasn't um"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "wasn't just a light in the sky anymore. Now, this became something that clearly"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "was following them and observing them. I don't see even like one satellite."}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "Huh? One satellite. Not one. Even with this clarity, you'd see it."}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "You'd see Yeah. It's so weird. Not saying that that's anomalous. I'm"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "just saying that's very strange. Like not even one satellite here."}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "Oh, I see a blinking something there. Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "Let me zoom into that. Oh, what is that?"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "So windy. Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "It's way too high to be a plane. How strange."}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "Like it's way up there. Do you see it? No."}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "Yeah. I don't know. Like, it's so faint. I'll show you the footage after."}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "It doesn't seem to be moving in a straight line. Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "It almost seems like it's like teleporting back and forth. It's so bizarre,"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "dude. That's so high up."}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "What is it? This is strange. Come see this."}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "Yeah, I think it stopped. Yeah, it's gone."}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "I think it's gone. Can you point to like bigger stars? Just like orient me."}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "The movement was unnatural, controlled, and eerily silent. Betty was transfixed."}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "Barney was stunned. The craft was no longer a curiosity. It was a presence."}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "They left Franconia Notch. They passed"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "uh Indian Head and the Indian Head Resort. Uh Betty observed a man standing"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "in the window of one of the cabins smoking a cigarette and then they were"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "about a mile south of Indian Head when the craft swooped down. They uh reported"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "that now the craft was as large as a dinner plate held at arms length. Uh"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "keep in mind that the full moon is the size of an aspirin held at arms length."}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "So this is in the original uh reports, the documented evidence, the testimony"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "that Betty and Barney gave to Paul Henderson uh the officer at Peas Air"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "Force Base. The state of New Hampshire uh erected a historical marker to"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "commemorate uh this historical event. It says Betty and Barney Hill incident"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "on the night of September 19th and 20th, 1961, which is tonight."}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "Portsmith, New Hampshire. Couple Betty and Barney Hill experienced a close encounter with an unidentified flying"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "object and two hours of lost time while driving south on Route 3 near Lincoln."}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "They filed an official Air Force Project Blue Book report of a brightly lit"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "cigar-shaped craft the next day, but were not public with their story until it was leaked in the Boston Traveler"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "1965. This was the first widely reported UFO abduction report in the United States."}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "How cool is this? The fact that a sign says Project Blue"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "Book, unidentified flying object. I mean, at this point in the night, they were exhausted. They've been driving. It"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "was super late at night. Um, and they were trying to push through to get home in Portsouth. Still quite a ways away."}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "So by the time they reached here they were being follow followed very closely by this one particular object. Now what"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "happened here? Uh this is where things escalated quite rapidly and dramatically. The light they'd been"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "watching suddenly plunge downward rapidly descending in front of the car. Yeah. Can you imagine? It was no longer just a light. Barney"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "could now see the outline of the structure like craft itself. It wasn't just a light anymore. Whoa."}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "Yeah. Then the UFO stopped hovering over the treetops just ahead of them and blocked their path."}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "Betty remains in the car this time, noting that they had stopped in a bad spot. Barney leaves the car and heads"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "toward a field closer to the craft. Using binoculars, Barney takes a closer look. At this"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "point in the hypnotic regression, Barney insists that he wants to wake up. Dr. Simon calms Barney, reminding him that"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "no harm can come to him during these sessions, that he will not wake up, that he will remember. At this, Barney begins"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "to remember lots of detail, his voice shaking. It's all right. You can go right on,"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "experience it. It will not hurt you now."}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "I got to get my gun. I got to get my gun."}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "All right. All right, that's all. Start."}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "Go to sleep, Steve. You forget now."}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "Now you've forgotten. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "Through the binoculars, Barney saw beings inside the craft. And so he described rows of figures in the window"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "of the craft under hypnosis later on. Um, and he said they were not human."}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "There's a man and you captain. What are they?"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "She described Barney's observation of figures dressed in black shiny uniforms"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "that were uh somehow uh just so frightening that uh he had"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "developed a block after that. regarding the"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "appearance of their faces. He knew they were dressed in black shiny uniforms. They moved in unison in, you know, not"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "saying they were military officers, but they did uh move in unison and only one"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "remained at the window. He had a black scarf around his neck"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "dangling over his left shoulder. How could you see these figures so clearly at that distance?"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "I was looking at him with binoculars. Oh. His eyes were slanted. I see it. So,"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "his eyes were slanted. One man, he surmises, is clearly the leader. His uniform different. He has a"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "scarf. And the other beings seem to be continuing work in the background. Whilst the leader catches Barney's gaze,"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "he finds himself unable to look away. Barney feels he will stand there forever if he cannot look away. It takes a lot"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "of mental effort for Barney to be able to break the gaze. He felt uh from"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "what he was observing that this was a huge threat to him, that they had a plan"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "and that that plan was to capture him. This creature, this leader is telling me"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "something. Stay there and keep looking."}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "Just keep looking and stay there. And just keep looking."}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "Just keep looking. Could you hear him tell you? Oh, I got to pull these binoculars away from my eyes."}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "Cuz if I don't, I'll just keep staying there. Could you hear him tell you this? Oh, no. He didn't say it."}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "You felt he said it. I know. You know he said there. Yeah. Just stay there. be saying"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "to me how to get my head pull a little away."}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "God give me strength. All right. Pull him down. Run. Pull these binocles"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "down and God says God. Give me a chance. I got to get away. Oh. Oh."}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "You got to get away, baby. All right. Calm down. Calm down. I'm driving."}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "I'm going to get away. During Betty's hypnotic regression sessions, she recalls this experience"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "from her perspective. I kept waiting and waiting and Barney"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "didn't come back. And I was sitting there waiting and I looked. It was dark"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "there. There weren't any street lights or anything. I I noticed that when I looked out, he was quite a distance from"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "the car and he was still going away from the car. So, I leaned over the front"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "seat and I was saying, \"Barney, come back here. Barney, you damn fool, get"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "back here. Come back. If the damn fool out there doesn't come back, I'm I'm going out"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "after him.\" And I'm hollering, \"Barney,\" and I start to slide across. I was going"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "to get out in his side of the car because that door was still open a little bit. And just as I started to"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "slide across the seat, and I got the door most of the way open, he came. He"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "was running like mad down the street when I saw him coming. I I sat up and it"}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "was lucky I did because he threw the binoculars in the car and they landed on the seat beside me and he was hysterical. He was I don't know if he"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "was laughing or crying, but he said that they were going to capture us. We had to"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "get the hell out of there. Drops the binoculars, screaming to Betty, they're going to capture us. Back to the car."}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "Yeah. So now they have they sprint back to the car. He and Betty speed away down"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "Route three at full throttle. And as they fled, this is when they start"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "hearing these strange beeping or buzzing sounds in their car. Betty and Barney heard a series of"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "codelike buzzing sounds on the trunk of their vehicle as they went speeding down"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "the highway. And it caused the car to vibrate and for"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "them to sense an electrical tingling sensation. And Bar Betty actually felt"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "the metal of the car but uh didn't receive an electric shock. Fortunately,"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "the sounds were mechanical, rhythmic, and invasive. Both felt a vibration"}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "through their bodies, a tingling sensation that they struggled to explain. Then silence."}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "The next thing they knew, they were 30 to 35 miles down the highway somewhere"}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "on Route 93. Uh, from from what I've been able to"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "gather or very close to Route 93. Um, they heard a second series of these buzzing sounds, codelike buzzing sounds"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "that Barney compared to the sound of a tuning fork being dropped and they had"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "vague memories. Betty recalled a vague impression, a roadblock, a red orange orb, a forested"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "dirt road, but the craft was gone. They went back time and time again for"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "the next couple of years trying to jog their memories, uh, trying to find that"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "dirt road with the tall trees."}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "Apparently, this is it. This is where they got taken. This is"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "terrifying. This is terrifying. Right here."}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "Right. You have arrived."}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "Head west. And now it's telling us to turn around. All right. Well, I'm not going to stick"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "around here for much longer. Jesus Christ. On their return home, they try to document everything they can remember,"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "but it's not a lot. It's vague and disjointed. And it wasn't until after"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "their hypnosis sessions with Dr. Benjamin Simon that they were actually able to find it."}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "And this is the encounter at 11:35 p.m. I don't know where we are. I don't even"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "know how we got here. Her body and I haven't we've been driving and I don't know how long and we"}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "haven't even been talking. We I just been sitting here feeling that something's going to happen. She"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "describes the car stalling and refusing to start as the beings approached the car. I"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "I wasn't afraid. I I was afraid when I saw the men in the rope. Men in the rope."}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "I never been so afraid in my life. Tell me about the men in the rope."}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "It's all right now. You're safe here. There was these men"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "standing in the highway. He stopped the car and these men started to come up to"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "the car. They they they"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "separated. They came up in two groups. And when they started to do that,"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "I I get real scared. There's a couple of men behind me in his"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "body and he"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "There's a bed on each side of him and my eyes are open, but Bonnie's still"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "asleep. He's walking and he's asleep. Bonnie, why don't you wake up?"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "They assisted him out of his car. He recalls keeping his eyes very tightly shut, telling himself that he has to."}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "Don't open them. I don't want to be operated on cuz my eyes are closed"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "and I think I am going"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "up a slight incline"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "and my feet are not bumping on the rocks but I'm afraid to open my"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "eyes. I have been told to keep my eyes closed."}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "Who told you that? The man."}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "What man? That I saw through the binoculars."}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "On the physical interactions, Barney notes a distinct lack of physicality. Whilst he knows that the beings helped"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "him out of his car, it was like he couldn't feel them despite knowing that they had a hold of him. almost as if he"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "was floating again. His eyes remained firmly shut. Betty's examination. Betty"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "describes being approached by beings, describing them as short, uniformed figures with large, prominent eyes. They"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "communicate without speaking. She's not afraid, just bewildered."}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "She repeats the recollection of being led into a craft. The interior is sterile, metallic, and oddly shaped."}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "She's examined. Her skin is scraped and her limbs are manipulated. A needle is"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "inserted into her abdomen. Sort of in the middle of the room is a table,"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "some kind of a table. It's not up very high, about the same height as a desk."}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:31", "text": "Uh, I lie down on the table on my back"}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "and he brings over this Oh, how can I describe it? They're like needles."}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "There's a whole cluster of needles and each needle has a wire running from it."}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "So then they roll me over on my back"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:02", "text": "and the examiner has a long needle"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "in his hand. [Applause] And I see the needle"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "and it it's it's bigger than any needle I've ever seen."}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "And he I asked him what he's going to do with it."}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "And he said, \"Just a simple test of volley.\" And I asked him, \"What?\" And he said,"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "\"He just wants to put it in my table.\" And it's just a simple test."}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "And I don't know, it won't hurt. Don't do it. Don't do it. And even though it"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "won't hurt, and he sticks the needle into my nail,"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "he'll finish it."}, {"start": "00:37:51", "end": "00:37:57", "text": "And I'm crying and I tell him it's hurting and hurting and hurting to take it out."}, {"start": "00:37:57", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "And and and then the leader he goes over and he puts his hand rest"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:11", "text": "his hand in front of my eyes and he says, \"I'll be all right. I won't feel"}, {"start": "00:38:11", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "it.\" Our examinations were very much similar in"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "that with both Barney and I, they checked our eyes, ears, nose, throat,"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "took samples of our hair, fingernail, and they scraped our skin with me. They"}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:36", "text": "touched my body with little points on wires. They said he was checking my"}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "nervous system. And then they attempted to insert a needle-like instrument in my"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "navl. I objected that it would hurt and he said it shouldn't hurt. When he did"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "this, it caused a great deal of pain. He said it was a pregnancy test and I said, \"Well, that's no pregnancy test here.\""}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:39:01", "text": "After the needle incident, Betty was helped to a seated position and they declared an end to the testing for the"}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "time being. The other beings left the room, leaving Betty alone with the leader."}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:15", "text": "Examiner was helped me get up off the table. And I swung around"}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "and my sho he gave me my shoes and I put those on. Oh, I said"}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "I can go now. I can go back to the car."}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "And he said, \"Bonnie isn't ready yet.\""}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "She asks questions. The being responds mentally. She exclaims that this is an amazing experience and that nobody will"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:51", "text": "believe her. She asks for evidence to take with her. The aliens take her to choose something"}, {"start": "00:39:51", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "and Betty chooses a book which they agree to let her take. And this was later taken back by the"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "beings before the pair were released. This had been"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "quite an experience. It was unbelievable."}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:17", "text": "that no one would ever ever believe me."}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "What I needed was some proof that this it really happened."}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "[Applause] So he laughed and he said, \"What kind of proof"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "did I want? What would I like?\" And I said, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "if he could give me something to take back with me,"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:52", "text": "then people would believe it.\" And so he told me to"}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:59", "text": "look around and maybe I could find something I would like to take. on the"}, {"start": "00:40:59", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "cabinet there was a book,"}, {"start": "00:41:05", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "a a a fairly big book. I put my hand on"}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "the book and I said, \"Could I have this?\" And so he said that"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:25", "text": "I could h I could have the book if I wanted it. And I picked it up"}, {"start": "00:41:25", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "and I was delighted. She's also shown a star map depicting the origin of the beings."}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "She doesn't make sense of it, but commits it to memory. And there he he did something. He opened"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:45", "text": "up wasn't like a draw. He sort of did"}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "something in in the metal of the wall. There was an opening"}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "and he pulled down a map. He asked me,"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:03", "text": "\"Had I ever seen a map like this before?\" And I leaned against the table"}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:11", "text": "and I looked at it and it was a map of it was a oblong map."}, {"start": "00:42:11", "end": "00:42:18", "text": "And he said that the heavy lines were trade routes"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "and then the other lines were places they went occasionally."}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "The broken lines were expeditions."}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "At some point during this conversation with the leader, some of the other beings re-entered the room and begin"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "tugging at her teeth. They are confused as to why Barney's came out, but hers"}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "are stuck. It was futile to try and explain the concept of dentures to an alien race, but Betty tried."}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:55", "text": "It devolved into a discussion on the meaning of getting old and of age. It"}, {"start": "00:42:55", "end": "00:43:01", "text": "derailed further when Betty tried to explain that good food can help preserve teeth and and the beings had no concept"}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:07", "text": "of what a vegetable was. How do you explain something so alien to an alien?"}, {"start": "00:43:07", "end": "00:43:13", "text": "Here's a passage from Betty's regression describing this very interaction."}, {"start": "00:43:13", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "Some of the other men come in and with them is the examiner. And the"}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "the examiner has me has me open my mouth and he"}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:37", "text": "starts checking my teeth and they're tugging at them."}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:49", "text": "He he said that they couldn't figure it out. Body's teeth came out if I didn't."}, {"start": "00:43:49", "end": "00:43:54", "text": "And I I was really laughing and"}, {"start": "00:43:54", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "I said that Bonnie had dentures and I didn't and that's why his teeth would"}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:07", "text": "come out. can't say. So then they asked me what were"}, {"start": "00:44:07", "end": "00:44:13", "text": "dangerous. Betty insisted that while she struggled communicating with the beings, there are"}, {"start": "00:44:13", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "people far smarter than she who would love to speak to them, she urged them to"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "speak to the right people. there are other people in this country"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:29", "text": "who are not like me that they would be most happy to talk"}, {"start": "00:44:29", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "with him that they could answer all his"}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "questions. She recalls on being dropped off"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:45", "text": "that the beings took the book from her. The book she was promised she could"}, {"start": "00:44:45", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "keep. She felt angry. The leader explained that they wish her not to"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:58", "text": "remember anything and so they cannot let her keep the book. Betty remained resolute, insisting"}, {"start": "00:44:58", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "that she would remember, that her mind would not be broken so easily. We're out into the Carter."}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "Barney's behind me with his eyes shut. There's a man on each side of him."}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "Jolita comes over and takes my book. And I said, \"No, I'm furious.\""}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "I said, \"You promised me I could have the book. You gave me a word you I could have it.\""}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:35", "text": "And he said, \"I know it.\" He said, \"But the others object."}, {"start": "00:45:35", "end": "00:45:41", "text": "They don't want you to have it.\" And I said, \"But this is my proof. If you take the book away from me, I'll have no"}, {"start": "00:45:41", "end": "00:45:47", "text": "proof that this has happened.\" and he said, \"That's the whole point."}, {"start": "00:45:47", "end": "00:45:54", "text": "They don't want you to know it's happened. They want you to forget all about it."}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:46:01", "text": "And that's why I'm taking the book.\" And I won't forget about it. You You can"}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "take the book, but you never never never can make me forget about it because I'll"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:11", "text": "remember it was the last thing I ever do. Barney's examination session number"}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:17", "text": "five. Barney returns to the moment of contact. He's reluctant, but the memories"}, {"start": "00:46:17", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "surface. He describes being led into the craft. He's terrified."}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "The beings are clinical, detached. He's examined. He recalls chest pressure, the"}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "use of instruments, and a sense of being probed."}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "I was laying on the table, and my fly was open."}, {"start": "00:46:43", "end": "00:46:49", "text": "And I thought, are they putting a cup"}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "around my private parts? Then it stopped."}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:47:04", "text": "I thought, how funny. If I keep real quiet"}, {"start": "00:47:04", "end": "00:47:09", "text": "and real still, I won't be harmed"}, {"start": "00:47:09", "end": "00:47:15", "text": "and it will be over. After getting off the table, Barney felt"}, {"start": "00:47:15", "end": "00:47:22", "text": "a great sense of relief, remembering a huge grin on his face. His eyes are still shut, but he is walking and being"}, {"start": "00:47:22", "end": "00:47:28", "text": "guided. He was back in the car and could see Betty coming down the road toward"}, {"start": "00:47:28", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "the car. I see Betty is coming down the road"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "and she gets into the car"}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:46", "text": "and I am grinning at her and she is"}, {"start": "00:47:46", "end": "00:47:55", "text": "grinning back at me and we both seem so elated"}, {"start": "00:47:55", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "and we are really happy. And"}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "I'm thinking it isn't too bad."}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:13", "text": "How funny. I have no reason to fear."}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "And we look and I see a bright moon"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "and I laugh and say, \"Well, there it goes"}, {"start": "00:48:30", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "and I'm happy.\" Betty describes being escorted back to"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:42", "text": "the car. The beings are polite, almost gentle. She's confused, but not afraid."}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:48", "text": "She watches the craft depart, silent and swift. She feels changed, but doesn't"}, {"start": "00:48:48", "end": "00:48:56", "text": "know how. They drove south to Concord, then east on US Highway 4. The sun was rising."}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:49:02", "text": "They arrived home hours later than expected, feeling clammy and disoriented. They feared radiation"}, {"start": "00:49:02", "end": "00:49:09", "text": "exposure. They showered thoroughly. Then they began to document."}, {"start": "00:49:09", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "Okay. I feel like I am I was abducted"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:22", "text": "by sleep. Lack of sleep. Yeah. Although not abducted. It is 3:23"}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:29", "text": "in the morning. So tired. So tired. Um"}, {"start": "00:49:29", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "we are currently at the Betty and Barney Hill area where they used to live. Now,"}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:44", "text": "I don't think the house is there anymore because the pictures online look looks like this old sort of like"}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "twotory house and in its place now is this sort of one-story bungalow which is"}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:57", "text": "a little new. Their whole ordeal like I'm just tired. I can only imagine if I had been"}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "Yeah. messed with in a spaceship. Yeah. If you get home at 3:30 in the"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:08", "text": "morning, like I'm I'm pretty messed up right now. And I I would think also that I don't know if I wake up in a few days"}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:14", "text": "with like crazy nightmares. I'll be like, \"Oh, maybe I got abducted, too.\" I have no idea. There's definitely some"}, {"start": "00:50:14", "end": "00:50:22", "text": "time slips of me slipping in and out of consciousness on the way here as a boring drive. Um but yeah, this marks"}, {"start": "00:50:22", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "the end of the uninterrupted journey as it were. Uh nothing"}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:35", "text": "super eventful has occurred but it was fun to retrace the footsteps."}, {"start": "00:50:35", "end": "00:50:41", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. I was even when you were past that I was listening to the whole story again and I"}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "could like place myself along the journey. It was really special in that in that sense like to"}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:52", "text": "imagine it fully. We saw a couple things in the sky. Little Yeah. Who knows what we saw."}, {"start": "00:50:52", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "Circles. I don't know what they are but they Yeah. They discovered shiny concentric circles on the car trunk. A"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:05", "text": "compass needle spun wildly over the spots. Their watches had stopped and never worked again. Betty's dress was"}, {"start": "00:51:05", "end": "00:51:10", "text": "torn, stained with pink powder. Barney's shoes were scraped on the top."}, {"start": "00:51:10", "end": "00:51:15", "text": "Vegetation clung to his pants. Circular rash appeared on his groin. In the days"}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:23", "text": "that followed, the hills struggled to make sense of the experience. you know because that this induced great trauma"}, {"start": "00:51:23", "end": "00:51:28", "text": "especially in Barney and uh he ended up developing bleeding ulcers and in in in"}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:35", "text": "the hospital uh with this they couldn't be resolved with traditional medical treatment and so he ended up being"}, {"start": "00:51:35", "end": "00:51:43", "text": "referred to Dr. Simon eventually that therapy worked for both Betty and Barney because she had her own uh anxieties to"}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:49", "text": "work through regarding this as well. But it was always to remain confidential."}, {"start": "00:51:49", "end": "00:51:57", "text": "They never wanted this to uh be made public. They were willing to talk to scientists, to military officers,"}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "and to the family. But we were sworn to secrecy. Betty and Barney had agreed not to speak"}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:09", "text": "with people about their experience for fear of ridicule. but that they had each other agreed to draw what they had saw"}, {"start": "00:52:09", "end": "00:52:17", "text": "in private and reveal them together. When the pictures matched very closely,"}, {"start": "00:52:17", "end": "00:52:24", "text": "Betty was excited and called her sister. Barney describes the days following the encounter. He's anxious, sleepless, and"}, {"start": "00:52:24", "end": "00:52:30", "text": "physically ill. His ulcers worsen. He avoids the topic. He fears ridicule. He"}, {"start": "00:52:30", "end": "00:52:39", "text": "fears what he saw. Dr. Simon notes the depth of Barney's trauma. It's not imagined, it's lived. What was that like"}, {"start": "00:52:39", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "for you as a young girl sort of hearing these tales? Did that I mean obviously"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "that must have helped shaped how you see the phenomenon, but like seeing someone who you trusted and looked up to and"}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:55", "text": "really cared about, you know, speak about things like of this nature. What"}, {"start": "00:52:55", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "was that like for you? I uh was curious. I was interested."}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "Uh, and I was concerned uh for Betty and Barney and especially"}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:15", "text": "Barney because of the the trauma that he was just unable to work through until he"}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:24", "text": "finally received a referral. And he was so much better after that that uh he he"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:32", "text": "went back to uh working full-time in and in in his spare time uh for uh civil"}, {"start": "00:53:32", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "rights. Uh he was a civil rights activist. He re he was appointed to the US commission on civil rights as a state"}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:47", "text": "advisory board member. uh he had uh used funding from the office of economic"}, {"start": "00:53:47", "end": "00:53:52", "text": "opportunity to set up the Rottenham County Community Action Program. He was"}, {"start": "00:53:52", "end": "00:53:57", "text": "the chairman of the committee. Uh he received that award. He was working on"}, {"start": "00:53:57", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "voters rights. So he and Betty were both doing a lot of great things for their"}, {"start": "00:54:02", "end": "00:54:09", "text": "community and the people of their state, particularly the underprivileged. They were doing very very well until there"}, {"start": "00:54:09", "end": "00:54:16", "text": "was a violation of confidentiality and then it just threw them back. What"}, {"start": "00:54:16", "end": "00:54:25", "text": "happened to them is something that should never happen to anybody in my opinion. I still feel angry about it. I"}, {"start": "00:54:25", "end": "00:54:33", "text": "blamed the reporter. I was furious with him as was Betty. For Barney, it brought"}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:40", "text": "uh people who doubted his credibility. This was a man who was uh upstanding in"}, {"start": "00:54:40", "end": "00:54:47", "text": "the community. His reputation mattered greatly and all of a sudden he was"}, {"start": "00:54:47", "end": "00:54:54", "text": "thrown into a cook category and it was in a in a sense it was"}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:55:02", "text": "devastating again. So, this is something Betty and Barney took active steps to avoid, but it was beyond their control"}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "because someone spilled the beans. There was a, you know, violation of"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "confidentiality that had a lifelonging impact on them. Kind like in hindsight, I mean, kind of"}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:19", "text": "bittersweet, right? Obviously, a violation of their their rights and and"}, {"start": "00:55:19", "end": "00:55:24", "text": "you know, if they don't want it to be public, then it should never be public. That's just the way that that goes. But"}, {"start": "00:55:24", "end": "00:55:30", "text": "the fact that it did go public, you know, provided, you know, so much to people looking into"}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "this and it provided, you know, so much information and so many answers, I guess, for a lot of other people um who"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:42", "text": "might have gone through a similar ordeal. And so there is there is like I"}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:48", "text": "guess I suppose a silver lining to this. Well, you might say that there was a"}, {"start": "00:55:48", "end": "00:55:54", "text": "silver lining to it in terms of, you know, other people who had had the same"}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "experience in terms of uh Betty being asked to speak with them to offer"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:04", "text": "guidance to them and support that kind of thing. Uh for Barney, he had a"}, {"start": "00:56:04", "end": "00:56:10", "text": "cerebral hemorrhage when he was 46 years old. It was fatal. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:56:10", "end": "00:56:16", "text": "Wow. Betty recounts her dreams. They mirror the hypnosis but with embellishments."}, {"start": "00:56:16", "end": "00:56:22", "text": "She's aware of the difference. She doesn't trust the dreams fully, but they feel real."}, {"start": "00:56:22", "end": "00:56:29", "text": "I did a comparative analysis of uh five dreams that Betty had and uh wrote about"}, {"start": "00:56:29", "end": "00:56:36", "text": "in detail that happened uh for the five nights beginning 10 days after the event"}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:43", "text": "occurred. And so, you know, that dream account was different than what Betty and Barney remembered under hypnosis."}, {"start": "00:56:43", "end": "00:56:48", "text": "There was some overlap there, but the details were different."}, {"start": "00:56:48", "end": "00:56:55", "text": "And fundamentally, I mean, there is something there. Like even Betty acknowledged that, you know, her dreams"}, {"start": "00:56:55", "end": "00:57:02", "text": "wasn't portraying reality and that there was some type of, you know, mixup there, but the underlying"}, {"start": "00:57:02", "end": "00:57:09", "text": "u event is still there, you know, and that I think is the important thing to to highlight here."}, {"start": "00:57:09", "end": "00:57:16", "text": "Yes. And I think that what we need to highlight is the parts for which they had conscious memory,"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:21", "text": "not the hypnosis. Barney, although Dr. Simon took precautions to make sure they"}, {"start": "00:57:21", "end": "00:57:27", "text": "didn't lie, that they uh were telling the whole truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, that sort of"}, {"start": "00:57:27", "end": "00:57:33", "text": "thing. And later, Betty passed a lie detector test after Barney died. But um"}, {"start": "00:57:33", "end": "00:57:39", "text": "you know, Barney initially uh had a false memory. He remembered"}, {"start": "00:57:39", "end": "00:57:46", "text": "things out of sequence. And but then Dr. Simon had to go back and you know go"}, {"start": "00:57:46", "end": "00:57:54", "text": "through it again and again and again and then Barney did remember it in proper"}, {"start": "00:57:54", "end": "00:58:01", "text": "sequence. What else to say here Kathleen? This has been just such a I mean an incredible"}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:08", "text": "journey for myself to like look into and I'm sure for many others even just discovering this you know maybe some of"}, {"start": "00:58:08", "end": "00:58:13", "text": "some of the younger audience not familiar with this. Uh again, I suggest you check out Captured, uh the Betty and"}, {"start": "00:58:13", "end": "00:58:18", "text": "Barney Hill UFO experience. Uh I'll leave the link in the description, but I"}, {"start": "00:58:18", "end": "00:58:25", "text": "want to thank you so much, Kathleen, for opening up and for setting me straight on a few of these uh facts that I that I"}, {"start": "00:58:25", "end": "00:58:32", "text": "might not that I might not get uh on the first go around, but uh I it's really greatly appreciated and your work is so"}, {"start": "00:58:32", "end": "00:58:40", "text": "appreciated for all of us researching this topic. you know, we need people who are hard-nosed, evidence-based, and sc,"}, {"start": "00:58:40", "end": "00:58:46", "text": "you know, grounded in science. And that's something that uh I can I can firmly say that you are and continue to"}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:52", "text": "be. So, thank you so much uh for everything you've done. Well, it was my pleasure and it was all"}, {"start": "00:58:52", "end": "00:58:59", "text": "out of my curiosity about what happened to my family to try to get to the truth"}, {"start": "00:58:59", "end": "00:59:05", "text": "of it. and uh it has taken up most of my"}, {"start": "00:59:05", "end": "00:59:12", "text": "uh adult life after I left my own profession um in in investigation. Uh I had read a"}, {"start": "00:59:12", "end": "00:59:18", "text": "lot and I I had uh you know talked to to Betty and over and over again I'd taken"}, {"start": "00:59:18", "end": "00:59:24", "text": "those trips with her. But then I with my own investigation and the many many"}, {"start": "00:59:24", "end": "00:59:31", "text": "years I've devoted to this, I know now know precisely what happened and where."}, {"start": "00:59:31", "end": "00:59:39", "text": "Thank you, Kathleen. My pleasure. Regression session 10. Betty."}, {"start": "00:59:39", "end": "00:59:46", "text": "Betty reflects on the experience. She believes it happened. She doesn't know why, but she's certain. She wants to"}, {"start": "00:59:46", "end": "00:59:54", "text": "share the story. She wants others to know she's not afraid of ridicule. She's driven by truth."}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "01:00:01", "text": "Dr. Simon ends the sessions. Thank you so much for watching and thank you to Kathleen Martin for helping us tell the"}, {"start": "01:00:01", "end": "01:00:07", "text": "story of her aunt and uncle. And also special thank you to Sasho for providing some really cool animations that we"}, {"start": "01:00:07", "end": "01:00:14", "text": "played throughout this episode. If you enjoyed this episode, leave a like, leave a comment, subscribe."}, {"start": "01:00:14", "end": "01:00:20", "text": "And if you want to encourage us even further, head over to areia552.shop or join the membership for just $5 a"}, {"start": "01:00:20", "end": "01:00:26", "text": "month and get access to so many incredible things. I hope you guys have a great day and"}, {"start": "01:00:26", "end": "01:00:47", "text": "we'll see you on the next video. Peace and love. [Music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "In 1966, I looked out my bedroom window after something had caught my eye and I"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "looked into the sky and I remember thinking that is a flying saucer because"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "we still call them flying saucers back then. And I stared at it for maybe a minute before"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "looking away and rubbing my eyes thinking I'm seeing things. But when I looked back up, it was still there"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "before it shot like a bullet into the clouds. And I had the words come into my"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "head that now I realize were not my words that said everything is fine. It"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "was just a flying porter. No need to tell anyone because they won't believe you anyway. At that minute, my mother"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "burst in the room wanting to know where I had been for over an hour. She had been looking for me inside and outside"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "and could find me nowhere. and she was getting ready to call the police. Anyway, I would like to end with this."}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "May you walk in gratitude with a heart full of love and may the weight of the world not find your shoulders today."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "Travis Walton, it is an absolute honor to have you in the skiff here with me today. Um, I am beyond humbled to be"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "here with you. I mean, this is just a a really kind of surreal moment for myself. partially because the first"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "movie that got me interested in the phenomenon was Fire in the Sky. Well, this is definitely a unique skiff"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "for uh set and uh uh fascinating situation here. Let's see what happens."}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "Well, I'm glad you enjoy it. Um, 1975, November 5th in Snowflake, Arizona was a"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "moment that, you know, forever changed, you know, the course of your own history, but so many others as well,"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "including myself, because, you know, without which the movie wouldn't have been made, and I don't think I'd be sitting here talking to you. Um, so for"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "that, I am kind of grateful. But I want to know how do you feel after all these"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "years about that famous night November 5th?"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "It w it was definitely changed my life forever dramatically. It you know it was"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "actually it wasn't me anymore. It was the new me. You know it was just"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "transformational. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "I'm just wondering, was there ever a point during any of the interviews that you've done and any of the conversations that you've had that looking back on"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "what had happened to you that you've gained a little bit more insight? Was there ever anything that"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "over the years you went, \"Huh, I never thought about that.\" like maybe a smell or a certain feeling or a certain"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "thought that popped into your head that well uh probably numerous times you know"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "there's been so many of them that it it stimulates thought uh in areas that I"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "hadn't uh personally soulsearched before well it was evolutionary to start with"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "you know some of the early interviews I was still locked into the early"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "misconception of this experience as you know alien"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "monster invasion and gradually as I had time to reflect on what happened and"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "analyze the meaning or purpose of it you know it it came to to me that it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "an intentional case of u"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "alien creatures firing a weapon weapon at me, but that I had u somehow tricked"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "uh tripped a a a reaction. Maybe an automatic protection device or"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "is it as I later thought uh perhaps some sort of a"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "discharge of a ch uh static electricity or some energy dis uh discharge from the"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "craft to me cuz it was at that moment that my head uh approached the surface"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "of the craft the closest. There's a there's a case uh in Canada"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "actually, one of the most famous case, I would argue the most famous case in Canada, uh Mitchellac, the Falcon Lake"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "incident. Have you ever heard of this one? Uh that I think I've heard that before. Yeah, because it was a similar sort of"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "encounter. I believe also humanoid blonde beings as well, but this"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "gentleman who had approached the craft was then also sort of zapped. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "his shirt I think now can be found uh in I think it's the National UFO Archive in"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "Albuquerque, New Mexico. David Marlor, he's got the shirt that it's all fried and zapped, but this guy had essentially"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "radiation burns from trying to get too close to the craft as well. Well, u I uh did I still have the same"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "clothing when I was returned and it was undamaged. It wasn't burnt and no uh injuries on my body itself."}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "Although, you know, with a super high-tech uh recovery team, I suppose they could have restored all that before"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "they brought me back. True. That is true. Um, you were missing for for 5 days if I'm not mistaken."}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "Correct. Yeah. 5 days and 6 hours. You know, we spend a lot of time digging"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "for information and looking through case files here at Area 52. But here's a secret most people don't realize is that"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "your personal information is just out there. your home address, phone number,"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "even details about your family. They're collected and sold by data brokers without your permission. And it's not"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "just a privacy issue. This is how scammers, stalkers, and identity thieves"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "find their targets. Sure, you could try to clean it up yourself, fine. But that means hundreds"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "of hours of sending requests and forms and follow-ups only for your data to pop"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "right back up again. That's why I use Incogn. Think of them as a covert task force"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "working for you. And here's how it works. Pretty simple. Three steps. One, create an account and share just enough"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "info for them to track down your exposed data. Two, give them a one-time permission to act on your behalf. And"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "three, sit back. Incogn automatically scrubs your information from hundreds of"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "sites and keeps doing it so it stays gone. And if you got something specific out there you want erased, their custom"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "removal feature lets you send in a direct link and a dedicated privacy expert will handle it for you. It's"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "risk-free for 30 days, so you can try it and get a full refund if it's not for you. Go to incogn.com/eria52"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "and use code area52 for 60% off annual plans because remember, they can't harm"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "you if they can't find you. That's um do you ever struggle with"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "the amount of time that you were missing versus the information that you remember"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "because it seems like there's a huge gap there. Yeah. Well, you know, uh, initially"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "assuming that I was unconscious or or dead, uh, for the rest of the time, you"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "know, having occasionally some, uh, dreams involving"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "the subject. And when I first inquired about it, I asked uh, the screenwriter on Fire in"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "the Sky, do you think these could be memories coming back to me?"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "and he said, 'Nah, he's probably just doing all these interviews got you thinking about it. And then a while"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "later, I asked him the same question. He says, \"Oh, yeah, those are probably memories coming back to you.\" So, you"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "know, he had done some research in the meantime, and it changed his opinion on things, but it it"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "it didn't involve the smaller uh group of beings. that was involved the more"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "humanl looking ones but nothing that formed any clear memory"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "or of um you know events that made any sense. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "that's so strange. I mean it I think what makes the case so unique this one"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "your case um compared to so many others not only you know was it witnessed by"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "was six other people at the time um not only you know was there missing time"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "involved there's a whole search party involved there was all sorts of um"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "really compelling uh pieces to this case but the fact that there were multiple"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "what seems like multiple species involved. And normally,"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "you know, you'd be like, okay, well, that sounds just a little weird. Maybe they're related somehow. But these"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "species individually also show up to other contactees or experiencers in,"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "you know, in their experiences as well, individually, but never together. What's your best hypothesis on why that is? I"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "think my um best hypothesis was that I"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "was panicked. Uh whatever damage occurred probably interfered with any"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "sort of telepathic control or communication and I was not going to cooperate with"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "what I perceived to be threatening monsters. So I think that"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "this entity which appeared human was brought in because that was all I was"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "ever going to trust. It wasn't going to be them. I was combative."}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "You think that they were trying to subdue you mentally somehow and that you the damage you'd sustained prevented"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "them from doing that? Yeah. Yeah. I think that that I did not detect any uh sort of messages or"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "feelings from them. So, I'm assuming that was because of the extensive damage"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "that I I felt like I was dying. You know, it was pretty Wow. heavy duty stuff. Otherwise, they could"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "have stopped me from being combative, I would think. Were you in any pain awaking coming out"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "of that? Yeah. Yeah. In pain in my head and chest. Felt like I was dying."}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "What's um what would you describe the pain as? like uh migraines or like pressure or"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "Oh, yeah. All of the above. Hard to describe, but uh definitely something"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "that provokes panic in me that this is definitely not good and getting worse by"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "the second. Yeah, that would I mean that would be"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "scary. At at one point I mean during that time you're obviously panicked. Um, now reflecting on it, you've had time"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "to, you know, really dwell on these thoughts and really look at different reasons why they might have done what"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "they've done. But in that moment, did you think they were causing that pain? Oh, yeah. I associated the pain with"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "them, the horror of, you know, all the stories that this type of being had been"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "portrayed with. You know, it was definitely maximum fear factor. I I"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "didn't perceive anything beneficent uh at that point. It was only after years"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "of reflection that I came to realize that you know they could have easily"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "dumped my body off in some asteroid somewhere and um let the let the crew get suspected"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "forever of hiding my body successfully and that been the end of it. of the"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "cover up was all they were concerned with, but they made up for it. They"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "corrected my mistake of getting too close. Oh,"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "you awoke. You see this light above you, see these figures sort of hovering over you and through sheer panic and force of"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "wanting to stay alive, you ended up reaching for an object on one of these"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "tables that they had. Yeah. Could you describe in detail what that object looked like and what it felt"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "like? Well, uh, I just needed something clublike and I was It was, you know,"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "crude sort of thinking. Uh, it seemed like a It had a little heft to it. It"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "wasn't real heavy, but it wasn't like a glass tube. It was more like a solid rod"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "of some kind. Uh, it had more to it than just a cylinder, but I, you know, I"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "wasn't looking at it musing what it was for. I was just something that would uh"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "threaten them and keep them from getting any closer. Yeah. This is a clear object, right?"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "Yeah. So, it's like a clear tube, but it wasn't necessarily glass. It was heavier than glass. And"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "Yeah. No, don't know what it was. There was a variety of other instruments laid out there. uh some of them looking"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "metallic and twisted, you know, something you might associate with surgical instruments, but"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "yeah, it was my my skin was never uh perforated that I know of."}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "Yeah, seeing those instruments I think would, you know, I've seen a lot of movies. I, you know, I think many of us would"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "react the same. Um, so at this point, these beings kind of they're like, \"We"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "don't want any part of this. We're not meant to throw down.\" They're tiny little guys, too, right? They're not uh these like you're you're a towering"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "figure. You're in your 20s. You're a you're throwing logs around during the day. You're a boxer as well. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "you're a fighter. These guys didn't really want any part of that, it would seem. Yeah. Um, and so they leave, but before"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "they leave, you had a chance to sort of see what they were wearing and see sort"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "of their physical appearance. Can you describe? My attention was riveted on their faces,"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "looking for signs of expression, threat, you know, uh, what were they looking at, that kind of stuff. Uh, which was very"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "devoid of expression. So, but that was what I was paying the most attention to."}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "The the it seemed to be sort of a uh loose fitting orangish brown coverall"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "sort of a thing. Um but their faces not revealing any"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "emotion um was naturally perceived as threat. You know, if you if you're"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "confronted with people who might be associated with the pain that you're"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "feeling, the serious"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "uh question of are am I going to survive this? And then"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "to have no expression made it seem very grim, like a threat. When humans uh"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "confront each other without expression, it's considered threatening because a normal reaction is to smile or at least"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "frown or in some way signal your intentions. But"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "uh it took me a number of years to figure out well well you know if they're if they're telepathic"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "they don't need expression to communicate with each other. It's u an"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "obsolete method of communication rather crude and primitive if you go to think"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "about it. Uh how complete and rich a full telepathic communication path would"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "be. Yeah. Did you So on these on the loose fitting"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "jumpers is is interesting too. I always assume they were just like skin-tight jumpers kind of like you know the ones"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "you hear about normally but loose fitting is interesting. Did you on these jumpers did you notice an emblem or or a"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "sigil or anything? No. No insignia in that nature. And uh um or how they dressed have"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "anything to do with uh any activity they might have outside of"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "the craft or not? I don't know. Yeah. So these beings they they scurry sort of"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "through a door. Yeah. Uh this door opens and closes or was this just an opening?"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "It was just an opening. Just an opening. And then you hurriedly and now first of all this how how high"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "is this room? Because you're you're a tall guy. These are short beings I assume. Very low ceiling. Very small. Very"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "very small cramped space. And the table itself claustrophobic. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "And it had sort of like a a humid uh nature to it, right, in the in the room. Sort of like a hard to breathe kind of"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "like Yeah. denser atmosphere it would seem. And the table was uh low closer to the"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "floor, you know. Were your legs hanging off the table? Uh well um no, but uh it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "uh wasn't high enough off the table when I rolled off of it and stood up. You know, m"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "it was not far to the floor. I mean, it's not not normal table height, I'd"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "say. But the length of the table was human length. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "Find that to be interesting. And uh there was a light above me."}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "Um not not bright. It seemed to increase my pain to look in"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "that direction. But I think that had something to do with my injury, not with"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "the brightness of the light. Right."}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "So, you find yourself now turning down this hallway,"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "finding hopefully finding an exit, getting out of here, and as you and this this is like a"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "rounded sort of narrow hallway if I'm not mistaken. Yeah. And uh you know I didn't I was"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "planning an escape in that direction. I mean I I made it as far as this"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "what's been interpreted as a navigation room or maybe a control room"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "or something of that nature. but something that was capable of viewing"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "uh what's was called a star map or maybe simply a a view of where it was in"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "space. But movement of one lever had the effect"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "of moving the star pattern and it moved not swirling among you know"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "like different if so many it wasn't assuming a different pattern it was just the whole"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "pattern re rotating but that was very brief that it was"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "startling and not at all what I was after. I was looking for some way to open a door and get out of there."}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "And that was um these controls were on this chair that was in the center of the room. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "This uh low back sort of chair with these with what seemed like maybe joysticks or like controls or something"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "on them. And you just kind of like panicked and pressed the buttons to try and figure"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "out a way out. Yeah. And that u triggered I don't know if it triggered but almost immediately"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "uh the doorway that I'd come through which was lighter out in the hallway uh"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "darkened because someone entered. It was what I took to be a rescuer a humanl"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "looking being. And uh I ran up to him just assuming"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "that he was there to save me from these monsters."}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "And uh I would immediately started uh"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "screaming, babbling, begging questions about, you know, what was going on."}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "Um but I didn't get any response,"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "which wasn't too alarming because he wore a helmet over his head. So I"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "thought maybe he can't hear me with that on or even speak with it on or be heard."}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "So when he took me by the arm to to lead me out of there,"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "I only was only too happy to uh uh cooperate."}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "Wow. The um the description of this being struck me um"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "as kind of unique because we we do hear about, you know, ever since the 1950s,"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "there have been, you know, contactees who were in contact with beings of the"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "same sort of nature. um tall sort of muscular blonde figures that wore sort"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "of tight fitting suits. uh you know I'm reminded of uh Adamsky's George Adam damsky's like earlier um you know uh"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "contacts and and so many others but the one thing that stands out here is this"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "sort of helmet which I found really interesting because there's a case um which I shared with you before in 1954"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "a case in Staferture England where this lady and her two children well she was called outside by her two children and"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "they're like mommy look there's a flying saucer and she goes you Don't be stupid. Those don't exist. And she looks up and"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "she sees a silver saucer and it's tilted towards them like this. And in the"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "saucer are two people who had these page boy Bob haircuts. So like kind of like"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "straight here, straight golden hair, tight fitting blue jumpers and what she"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "described as a fishbowl over their heads. Wow. So u these humanl looking beings u"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "fit the verbal description I provided. Now whether this was an actual being"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "some sort of uh robot or android created by the alien or an actual intervention."}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "I immediately took it to be an intervention a rescuer forcibly coming"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "in to save me from them. But in hindsight, it may have been they're"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "powerless to help me because I'm in a panic and won't cooperate. So they get"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "the only thing that I'm going to cooperate with is something that looks more like myself, whether that was a"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "robot or a species very similar to humans or even even uh someone"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "representing some American um agency, secret agency of some kind,"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "who knows? But I w was uh that was correct. I was immediately going to"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "cooperate with them and not with these u creatures."}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "So I find it interesting that you know that you would assume that the"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "creatures were the ones in charge and that these human ones were would be the"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "ones that they summoned and not vice versa. Like I mean instinctively and"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "this you know comes from zero knowledge, zero personal firsthand knowledge, but I would assume that like the ones doing"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "the menial tasks such as perhaps putting you back together and fixing you up would be perhaps working for the"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "humanlike ones. Yeah, there's u all kinds of scenarios we can imagine, you"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "know, and um many of them are equally"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "u u fitting the uh the facts of the case. Yeah. But they didn't speak. I was certainly"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "screaming all kinds of stuff, but um um"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "no, nothing that confirms any particular theory. What's something that you screamed at them?"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "Who are you? What is this? What What's going on? You know, you know, this is"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "killing me. I'm dying. That kind of stuff. Wow."}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "And so this was um this is a male who then took you into a separate room. Now,"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "there was a door that opened here. Yeah. Um did the door open vertically?"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "No. No. To the side? Yeah. Okay. Um, was it a round opening or like a"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "square? Do you remember? No, it was more like a doorway. Just a regular doorway. Just wide enough to for us to get"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "through. Did it make a sound upon opening? I don't don't remember. Don't remember any sound. I don't"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "remember hearing it, but uh I was making a lot of noise. Yeah. Yeah. You're putting up a fuss."}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "Yeah. Rightfully so. I I would say. Um,"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "so tell me what happens next. Well, I was taken out of the craft down this"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "steep ramp into a large hanger-like area."}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "Now, I don't know whether this was a larger craft, part of a building"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "somewhere. Uh the lighting um"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "came from windows that curved us. The room was shaped like a quarter of a"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "cylinder laid on its side. So if you look straight at the wall, it would have"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "curved up and become the ceiling overhead. Uh the light being given off was very"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "much like sunlight. Not terribly bright, nothing that would hurt your eyes to"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "look at, but uh it was a soft light and it lit up the area. I wasn't studying"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "the the the look of things. I was very concerned with where I was being taken"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "and this feeling of injury that I was dealing with."}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "Do you think that um in that state you were"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "you had already been sort of passed out for a long time or do you think that was like near the beginning of"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "that would be a guess? Uh yeah, probably not immediately afterwards."}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "Uh as the the force of what hit me was so powerful, the crew said they"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "immediately screamed at each other, it killed him. he's dead that I you know I"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "my body felt like a crumbled up rag. Uh so"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "um whatever was undertaken to revive me"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "at least been partially successful but still feeling very injured"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "and then um I regained consciousness and then became a threat to my rescuers as"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "as I assumed later."}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "So, this place that they take you, which is, you know, I assume some type of hanger and like you said, don't know if"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "it's some type of mothership situation or if it's on another planet or underground. It could have been anywhere."}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "Yeah. Um, the lighting seemed like sunlight, but could have also been artificial, much like, you know, the sort of"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "simulation of daylight that we have here. And you noticed"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "several other craft, what seemed like several other crafts, sort of lined up at these docks."}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "Yeah. Can you describe those crafts? Um, I didn't study the details. was"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "always very concerned with where I was being taken, but uh they were very"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "silvery and rounded like you might see in a glob of mercury, you know,"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "a very smooth surface, like the bean in Chicago, something like that."}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "I don't know. But, uh, I I I assumed in my interpretation that just glancing"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "over there and seeing this that they were rounded silvery discs, but in"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "hindsight, I couldn't see behind them. So, I don't know how long they were. They It's"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "possible they could have been sort of"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "more of an extended uh sphere kind of a look. Yeah. Like a oblong sort of shape. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "people keep on using the term tic tac these days, but uh you know um an"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "elongated uh rounded uh tube. A pill."}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "Yeah, like a pill, but I don't know. Couldn't see that"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "deep. Didn't look that far. Wasn't paying that much attention. Where are you taking me? Um, it was through some"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "doors uh down a hallway to uh a room where there were some other"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "people dressed like him except not wearing helmets. He was the only one who ever wore a"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "helmet, right? and so relieved that at last here's somebody"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "without a helmet that can hear me and answer my questions began firing away the same questions"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "again. But this just a matter of seconds was going on from the time I was handed"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "over to them to where I was forced down on the table. Uh and I was fighting them. I was"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "resisting and it wasn't too hard for them. They were much stronger than me. I"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "was in a very weakened condition at that point and uh the mask that pushed over"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "my face I think caused me to pass out"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "and that was the last I remembered. It's interesting that they had like a"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "what seems like an analog way to anesthetize you rather than you know what we hear about with so many people"}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "like they just like shut you down mentally. again, you know, maybe they didn't have that capacity with you for"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "whatever reason. Yeah. If they had had that capacity, then maybe they could have completed what work need to be done"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "right there on the original table. Yeah. Without a fuss. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "Huh. There was a woman there as well, right?"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "Yeah. look compared to be female and with but all of them with"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "sort of idealized u human physical uh builds to them. Uh uh the artwork got"}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "a little carried away I think but uh basically very healthy strongl looking"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "people that uh didn't have very much trouble overpowering me"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "which is surprising cuz you're I mean you're obviously in a weakened state but in such a panic you'd think adrenaline"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "would kick in anyways and you'd be able to you know muster some strength up but yeah the adrenaline was what was keeping"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "me upright falling on the on the Hey, quick thing before we get back into"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "it. For the next 3 days, we're offering free worldwide shipping on everything at"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "Area52.shop. Doesn't matter where you are, we will cover the shipping cost. So, if you've"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "been thinking about picking something up, now's the time. Let's get back into the podcast."}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "Would you say that their facial features were"}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "normal or was there any abnormalities? Was there a heightened forehead, a large um large eyes?"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "No, nothing of that sort. Just um a sort of similarity to them."}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "Like a familial similarity. Yeah. But not in a plastic synthetic looking"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "way. Sort of like brother sister type deal. Yeah. Something like that. Something"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "like that, huh? So then you then remember"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "sort of being on the ground outside back on Earth, it seems, right?"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "Yeah. And then looking up now you're seeing again the same craft that initially had"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "injured you. I don't think so. I think it was a different craft. It was shinier. It was"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "more uh uh of that uh polished chrome"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "liquid mercury look. And uh a light went off"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "and I I mean f first I noticed a light coming from above. Immediately when I regained consciousness"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "I looked to see where the light was coming from but it actually went off"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "before I could look completely in that direction. But in time to see this"}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "silvery unlit, not glowing craft shoot"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "straight up into the sky. And from that position there on that"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "highway, I was able to recognize the town nearest where this whole thing"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "happened. 5 days, 6 hours later. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "Wow. Now, I know you you've you know, you've been telling the story for a very long"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "time and um I just want to say how much I appreciate you going through that. Um"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "means a lot to me and I'm sure a lot of people to hear that story once again. It's"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "interesting, compelling, fascinating, and terrifying all at the same time. I've worked at not embellishing it or"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "extending beyond what I actually experienced. like if I speculate about"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "the meaning of it or why something happened, I try to identify the things that I I'm not certain of that I have no"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "direct knowledge of, but this is what happened. Uh and uh I survived it."}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "Now, the next thing to follow after you make a phone call, after you know uh"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "they they find you and you're and you're brought home safely, this thing um this becomes a massive"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "massive story on a really big scale very very quickly. Um, we're talking like"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "news outlets and reporters and everybody trying to get the scoop of what would seem like one of the most compelling"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "stories of alien abduction that you know anyone's ever witnessed."}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "In those first few days, you're obviously still trying to come to terms with what happened. you're unsure. Um,"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "and a very uh delicate condition, you know, just uh basically incoherent and"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "uh not um kind of catatonic actually. You know, uh"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "my brother was very considerate and not pressing me to open up about what"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "um I had experienced. It was the hypnosis that began soon after"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "and the technique that was used there was a major turning point in my recovery"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "in terms of the constant stress I was feeling."}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:34", "text": "the U hypnotist uh had me"}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "um relate events that occurred aboard the craft as"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "an observer rather than as an experiencer. Uh and that separated me um from"}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "the threat of what was going on and the the pain and the danger and all that. That was a major turning point at that."}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "From then on, I was much more able to handle memories of it and and uh speak"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:10", "text": "of it. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "That's heavy, man. Yeah. Been heavy for 50 years. Yeah. I I'm I'm You know, I'll be"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "honest, sitting here with you and hearing you go through this, you know, I can sense"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "that even today it's still very very heavy for you. Well, for some people they're"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "disappointed. I don't have messages. I don't have um you know good news, bad news. Um it"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "was enigmatic to say the least and still is."}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "What keeps you after all this? What's the one thing that keeps you grounded the most? What keeps you like keeps your"}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "feet on the ground? What keeps my feet on the ground is family. You know, my family has grown."}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "You know, I've married, had four children, and 18 grandchildren. And I"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "really enjoy the family and family activities and seeing them learn and"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "grow and their amazing abilities."}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "What's um when you got back and you know after the"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:23", "text": "whole sort of ordeal was I wouldn't say done because it really never ended but"}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "what was one of the things that you looked forward to doing when you got back home when you had your wits about"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "you and everything? What were you thinking like, man, I just want to, you know, sit back and have a beer? Like"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "what was like the one thing you were looking forward to the most? I I didn't have a beer. I I immersed"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:46", "text": "myself in work. Yeah. Uh it was a way of focusing my attention"}, {"start": "00:38:46", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "and thoughts on something that weren't memories or struggling to make sense of"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:58", "text": "what had happened. So it was uh it was uh what kind of work"}, {"start": "00:38:58", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "any kind of work that I was doing at the time. I I worked at u the molding mill"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "for seven years. I I uh I can't remember the number of years, but also at the"}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "paper mill, but I would take all of the overtime I could get working uh weekends"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "and uh overtime uh constantly to just fill my life with work. Um"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "keep your mind busy. Yeah. Keep me thinking about something else. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "all the time worrying about is there going to be some physical damage that's"}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "going to show up later and it didn't materialize. As a matter"}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "of fact, in spite of this heavy workload, I never called in sick one time for 15"}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "20 years there. Yeah. Like they'd given you uh some type"}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "of like really super immune or maybe works good for us. Maybe maybe that's it. Maybe maybe work"}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "is the answer. Yeah. Yeah. When you work so much sometimes you can't afford to get sick."}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:15", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Wow. You know, my um my father, he was uh 30"}, {"start": "00:40:15", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "years in the military. He served uh in the Canadian Armed Forces for 30 years. He passed away last month."}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:28", "text": "Oh. And it was Thank you. It was a you know, it was pretty sudden. and it was a, you"}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "know, it was a cancer and whatnot, but he had dealt with"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "a lot being overseas, seeing some really foul stuff, you know, and his tour in"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "Afghanistan, his multiple tours and the Gulf War and all this. Um,"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:52", "text": "I can't help but notice that there's a sort of"}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "similar cloud that sometimes I feel like looms over you when you go over this story like there is something that"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "I don't know it just seems really Do you ever push that aside? Do you ever"}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:11", "text": "just Well, you can you can um definitely conclude that it didn't light up my"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "life. It was uh something that I wish hadn't happened and uh I regret the impulse"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:27", "text": "that made me jump out of that truck. I wish I had not gotten out of the truck."}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "Um but it happened. I can't unhapp it. And"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "so I've done the best to make something good come of it. Maybe help people."}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "Well, I'm sorry you went through that. I'm glad you're here, though. Well, me, too."}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "Uh I'm sure my family is glad I'm here, too. Yeah, I'm sure they are. Without that, they wouldn't be here."}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "That's true. No, you've uh you've overcome quite a bit to uh to be sitting"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "here and talking about this today. So, it's pretty commendable. Yeah. Well, thank you."}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:16", "text": "Yeah. So after all of this, you know, this"}, {"start": "00:42:16", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "goes by, I mean, you're dealing with this. You you you've seen your fair"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "share of, you know, fanatics come at you and uh even debunkers and all sorts of"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:34", "text": "people who, you know, have it out for Travis Walner or want a piece of Travis's story."}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": "00:42:40", "text": "Is there is there a story that sticks out to you as being like a remarkable"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "sort of like standout story of a fan interaction or somebody that has interacted with you in a strange way?"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:54", "text": "Um nothing I can think of in that way. There's there's many that do stand out."}, {"start": "00:42:54", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "There's a lot of remarkable things that have occurred over time. And uh one"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:07", "text": "thing I won't do is uh uh point for people to what I consider"}, {"start": "00:43:07", "end": "00:43:13", "text": "to be the best cases or the worst cases. Uh that's not my department. I I I"}, {"start": "00:43:13", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "always felt that what the wrong that was done to me was people passing judgment"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "on what happened to me and they didn't have the basic facts. They didn't even know what happened. And so how can you"}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:32", "text": "criticize something you didn't study first? So I resolved to not be someone"}, {"start": "00:43:32", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "who would do that. I'm not going to judge any case I don't study. And I was"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "way too preoccupied with studying my own case. You know what I mean? Uh coping"}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:48", "text": "with it and trying to figure out what it all meant. So,"}, {"start": "00:43:48", "end": "00:43:55", "text": "um, I swore off of studying other cases and other events. I I believe there are"}, {"start": "00:43:55", "end": "00:44:02", "text": "other cases and there's a lot of other things that get lumped into this"}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:07", "text": "phenomenon. uh some of them rather mundane uh"}, {"start": "00:44:07", "end": "00:44:14", "text": "fiction or you know people who mistake ordinary things for"}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:22", "text": "uh extraterrestrial visitors. Uh there might even be um a good deal of"}, {"start": "00:44:22", "end": "00:44:29", "text": "flying craft that are of uh United States uh aerospace sorts of"}, {"start": "00:44:29", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "military uh vehicles. Uh so but there's a hardcore reality to"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:43", "text": "this phenomena and people need to wise up and realize"}, {"start": "00:44:43", "end": "00:44:50", "text": "uh not be because of what we're seeing here but just common sense. You know don't be prejudic against the"}, {"start": "00:44:50", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "idea that there's life out there. you know, we're one planet out of millions"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "upon millions of billions of pl uh planets, stars, uh that, you know,"}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:10", "text": "scientists and the calculations, it's just grown and grown and grown to where the idea that that uh a universe this"}, {"start": "00:45:10", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "vast contain could contain one tiny little blue sphere called Earth that has"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:24", "text": "Earth on it and all the rest of it is just to sparkle in our night skies is an"}, {"start": "00:45:24", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "absurd kind of reasoning. I agree. It's far more outlandish than um"}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:37", "text": "the initial reaction people had to what happened to me. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's way crazier to"}, {"start": "00:45:37", "end": "00:45:44", "text": "think that there's nothing out there. Yeah. That's the That's what's crazy. That's that's what's wildly imaginative."}, {"start": "00:45:44", "end": "00:45:50", "text": "Of course there's something else out there. Lots of something else. Yeah. Probably an infinite amount. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:45:50", "end": "00:45:56", "text": "Um, let me ask you this. What do you think of what's going on with like Congress and stuff? You follow any of"}, {"start": "00:45:56", "end": "00:46:02", "text": "that? Uh, I hearing do stuff about it. I didn't actually make a point of uh"}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "setting for the uh uh like the hearings, congressional hearings or anything. I"}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "kind of knew what to expect. Yeah. But um I think it's"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:23", "text": "good they that they addressed it in a serious fashion and said things that um"}, {"start": "00:46:23", "end": "00:46:30", "text": "um help help people um take a more objective look at things. And it's just"}, {"start": "00:46:30", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "part of the process that needs to go on until there's general acceptance in"}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:43", "text": "humans that we're not the only intelligent life in the universe."}, {"start": "00:46:43", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Is that ever frustrating to you? Very. Because I know the nature of"}, {"start": "00:46:51", "end": "00:47:00", "text": "intelligence is to be curious and to want to know and to explore and not just"}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:07", "text": "not just human intelligence. I think these other intelligences why else would they come here? I don't think they're"}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:12", "text": "here to take over. um they've been here for many many many"}, {"start": "00:47:12", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "years and uh haven't done so and they could easily do so overnight and we'd never know what"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:25", "text": "hit us. So yeah. Uhhuh. Do you ever get frustrated with people's"}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:31", "text": "sort of skepticism after you know objectively having a real experience to"}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:36", "text": "have people come to you and say that's not real. Is that does that ever frustrate you or does you kind of just"}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:43", "text": "is that water off a duck's back at this point? Well, you know, I'll be surprised how many people don't dare say that to"}, {"start": "00:47:43", "end": "00:47:50", "text": "me. You know, I don't entertain that kind of ridiculous attitude. Yeah. Uh if you got something to say, have it"}, {"start": "00:47:50", "end": "00:47:59", "text": "be based on some sort of facts and reasoning. Everything needs to be based on facts."}, {"start": "00:47:59", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "Do you have true facts, all the facts, and valid reasoning? And that's been"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:14", "text": "uh the one thing that was missing in the uh program to discredit me and one thing"}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:20", "text": "that is required to understand this phenomena and our place in this vast"}, {"start": "00:48:20", "end": "00:48:26", "text": "vast universe. Why do you think there is a lack of like"}, {"start": "00:48:26", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "physical evidence? Like what? Like because I always assume, you know, there's there's been so many"}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:39", "text": "cases. There's hundreds of thousands of cases. There's so many people who've reported things and it it almost seems"}, {"start": "00:48:39", "end": "00:48:46", "text": "like every time someone's about to get something, it just like slips out of their hand for some reason. And I'm and in almost like a comical fashion like at"}, {"start": "00:48:46", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "this point where I'm like this is there's seems to be something preventing us from knowing. Well, you know, even"}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "science fiction writers were aware of the uh earthshattering to coin a term"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:05", "text": "effect that this would have on society to be visited by an intelligent and"}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:11", "text": "superior form of life from somewhere else. Uh even in the case of like Star Trek had"}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:16", "text": "this thing called the non-inference directive, the prime directive. Yeah. Yeah. The prime directive. They would"}, {"start": "00:49:16", "end": "00:49:22", "text": "they would uh come visit planets and uh disguise their presence in a way so as"}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:28", "text": "to not disrupt the normal development and although it was all fiction uh"}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:34", "text": "definitely makes sense that there would be something of that nature. So the"}, {"start": "00:49:34", "end": "00:49:40", "text": "phenomena we're encountering is them hinting"}, {"start": "00:49:40", "end": "00:49:45", "text": "that there's other life out there, but never confirming it so outrightly"}, {"start": "00:49:45", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "undeniable that it causes the massive disruption that would naturally occur."}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:57", "text": "What do you think our prime directive is? Is it getting rid of nukes? Because"}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:03", "text": "it's definitely not discovering them. Well, it needs to be. Um"}, {"start": "00:50:03", "end": "00:50:09", "text": "um most governments are uh their prime"}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:14", "text": "directive is CYA. I mean they're in position designed to uh"}, {"start": "00:50:14", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "defend themselves uh politically. But you know there is"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:29", "text": "our safety is at stake and they could make the wrong move. It could make things much worse. And in my view,"}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:35", "text": "uh, keeping the lid on things to the degree that they have and have not in"}, {"start": "00:50:35", "end": "00:50:41", "text": "some cases, uh, is probably for the best. Do you think cuz like Star Wars or"}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:49", "text": "Star Trek rather, they they would seek to contact a civilization once they hit warp drive, right? That's like the we're"}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:56", "text": "going to wait and as soon as you develop warp drive, we're going to come in and be like, \"Hey, welcome to the family. Glad you made it. you know, we're here"}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:51:01", "text": "to take care of you now and welcome you into the federation. Is that the story? That's the that's the idea. They had"}, {"start": "00:51:01", "end": "00:51:07", "text": "I I never followed at that. Well, okay. Well, you don't I mean, you don't have to. Uh but that's the that's"}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:13", "text": "the sort of threshold that civilizations that the marker there must be one."}, {"start": "00:51:13", "end": "00:51:21", "text": "What do you think ours is? I think ours is when we find it for ourselves. Yeah. And demonstrate our worthiness. you"}, {"start": "00:51:21", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "know, the warlike violent character of humanity"}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:33", "text": "is sadly uh way way too out of balance with I mean, they might even be wanting"}, {"start": "00:51:33", "end": "00:51:38", "text": "to quarantine us because uh of the you know, at any one time you got a 100 wars"}, {"start": "00:51:38", "end": "00:51:46", "text": "going on and uh the daily topic of entertainment is battles and wars and"}, {"start": "00:51:46", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "murders and murder mysteries and good grief, you know, there's so much"}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:56", "text": "more stuff that should be keenly interesting to us. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:51:56", "end": "00:52:01", "text": "Without resorting to those kinds of things constantly. Even our language is"}, {"start": "00:52:01", "end": "00:52:07", "text": "colored with the uh um words that uh"}, {"start": "00:52:07", "end": "00:52:11", "text": "parallel aggression."}, {"start": "00:52:13", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "Maybe that's why they've sequestered Earth to the out to the outer reaches of uh of the Milky Way. Maybe it gets more"}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:25", "text": "peaceful as you go towards the center. Um, we can do much better."}, {"start": "00:52:25", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "Yeah, we can do much better. We have to do much better. Yeah. Yeah. That um"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:39", "text": "that seems to be the message that every contactee has ever had. You know, I know there was no telepathic"}, {"start": "00:52:39", "end": "00:52:46", "text": "relay in your case, and there doesn't have to be to understand that there was some type of benevolent action at hand"}, {"start": "00:52:46", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "in at least bringing you back, if not saving your life. Um,"}, {"start": "00:52:53", "end": "00:52:59", "text": "do you believe there is some type of malevolent force out there as well kind of interacting with us or"}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "No. And there's I know there's people who would disagree with me. There's good aliens, bad aliens, but I think really"}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:16", "text": "high intelligence makes uh aggression and evil too stupid to be"}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:23", "text": "done. When you you get to a certain level of development, those kinds of things are just not an"}, {"start": "00:53:23", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "option any longer. Uh just common sense. Yeah. Like cooperation gets us further."}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:35", "text": "Yeah. without it doesn't have to be a a moral evaluation. It's it's a practical"}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "thing at least. At least Yeah, it's well put. That's true. We get"}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:48", "text": "a lot further if we uh cooperate rather than like survival of the fittests. Yeah. Yeah. But especially the higher tech we get,"}, {"start": "00:53:48", "end": "00:53:53", "text": "you know, we're already at the brink with the invention of the nuclear"}, {"start": "00:53:53", "end": "00:54:00", "text": "weapon. uh the capacity to destroy ourselves and the entire planet is way"}, {"start": "00:54:00", "end": "00:54:05", "text": "ahead of our uh moral and ethical development. Our ability to communicate"}, {"start": "00:54:05", "end": "00:54:10", "text": "and solve problems uh with reason,"}, {"start": "00:54:10", "end": "00:54:16", "text": "facts. Yeah. Consideration, those kinds of things."}, {"start": "00:54:16", "end": "00:54:21", "text": "Yeah. We're developing technology. We're our technology is outpacing our our our"}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "uh moral aptitude. Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. You think the do you think the"}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "solution there is slow down technology or increase moral aptitude? Well, I don't think you can uh stop the"}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:42", "text": "uh development of the technology. So, we really need to accelerate our our"}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:47", "text": "ability to handle it properly. Right. What do you think of um AI in all"}, {"start": "00:54:47", "end": "00:54:52", "text": "of this? As someone who's, you know, AI is scary to me because it might cause"}, {"start": "00:54:52", "end": "00:54:58", "text": "us to outstrip our moral development excessively in a"}, {"start": "00:54:58", "end": "00:55:08", "text": "in a destructive fashion. There's always that tiny minority, those power-hungry freaks that uh will do anything"}, {"start": "00:55:08", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "to to dominate all the rest of humanity. and uh they're not going to they're not"}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:19", "text": "going to hesitate to weaponize whatever has comes along. So"}, {"start": "00:55:19", "end": "00:55:24", "text": "yeah, I hope uh wiser heads prevail."}, {"start": "00:55:24", "end": "00:55:31", "text": "Yeah, same here. Well, with voices like yours, you know, telling your story and"}, {"start": "00:55:31", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "and uh doing the work you do and and I think, you know, if nothing else, you're"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:43", "text": "putting up a good fight and people I think are more and more in droves sort"}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:49", "text": "of listening to this message. at least the audience that we have here and a lot of the people that you know I've"}, {"start": "00:55:49", "end": "00:55:57", "text": "interacted with it almost seems like the very few that want this you know power"}, {"start": "00:55:57", "end": "00:56:03", "text": "um I don't know it seems like uh it's to me every time I speak to people I think"}, {"start": "00:56:03", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "people are good you know I see people individually and they're good I don't I don't meet a lot of evil people"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "yeah there is a kind of natural uh process where"}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:22", "text": "the the evil float to the top. They're a thin skim on the top of a vast ocean of"}, {"start": "00:56:22", "end": "00:56:27", "text": "humanity. But the ones who gravitate and wind up being in charge are the ones"}, {"start": "00:56:27", "end": "00:56:33", "text": "least qualified, least worthy to be directing the rest of us. There are"}, {"start": "00:56:33", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "people whose primary um"}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:43", "text": "um objective objective in life is is to dominate"}, {"start": "00:56:43", "end": "00:56:51", "text": "others, control others, to take what they have, control what they have, all that kind of stuff. The most destructive"}, {"start": "00:56:51", "end": "00:56:59", "text": "drives in humanity are are empowered by centralized"}, {"start": "00:56:59", "end": "00:57:07", "text": "um that dictate our mindset. Do you think the nonhuman"}, {"start": "00:57:07", "end": "00:57:12", "text": "intelligence that's been interacting with us would"}, {"start": "00:57:12", "end": "00:57:18", "text": "intervene at some point? Uh I doubt it."}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:24", "text": "Um, yeah. We I think we have what's called free agency to that includes to destroy"}, {"start": "00:57:24", "end": "00:57:31", "text": "ourselves or to save ourselves. We got to figure it out ourselves. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "Well, that's that's a tough lesson. That's some tough love right there. Um,"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "yeah, but yeah, I mean, it might be the only way only way out of it. You know, you don't uh you don't get very far if"}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:51", "text": "everything's handed to you. All right, Travis, I'm gonna go and turn on the camera back here. We got a few"}, {"start": "00:57:51", "end": "00:57:58", "text": "questions from the audience members that were super stoked that you're sitting here and uh so I've I'll pull up some"}, {"start": "00:57:58", "end": "00:58:03", "text": "questions for you if you don't mind. Is that cool? Sure. Yeah. All right. Answer some questions."}, {"start": "00:58:03", "end": "00:58:09", "text": "Okay. This is a really great question. All questions are great here from our"}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:15", "text": "interns. Uh we have a membership every month and all the interns are allowed to"}, {"start": "00:58:15", "end": "00:58:22", "text": "ask our guest a question. So it's one of the many perks and the first one we got here is from Har."}, {"start": "00:58:22", "end": "00:58:28", "text": "If people studied your case for the first time today, what would you want them to focus on the most?"}, {"start": "00:58:28", "end": "00:58:33", "text": "I would think you know that my thinking and uh perception of the whole event"}, {"start": "00:58:33", "end": "00:58:39", "text": "that developed later, not my reaction to it initially. and uh"}, {"start": "00:58:39", "end": "00:58:46", "text": "the uh skeptics and the naysayers are are so foolish that they're getting far"}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:52", "text": "more attention than they deserve. So, I'd say focus on uh the reality of this"}, {"start": "00:58:52", "end": "00:58:59", "text": "event and what it means to how we should be living."}, {"start": "00:58:59", "end": "00:59:05", "text": "Beautifully said. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:59:05", "end": "00:59:11", "text": "interesting question by Marcus G here."}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:26", "text": "Is there any part of your experience that hasn't been revealed? Yes."}, {"start": "00:59:26", "end": "00:59:31", "text": "Go on. I'm not revealing it. Are you being facitious or is that is"}, {"start": "00:59:31", "end": "00:59:36", "text": "that the truth? Well, there's things I haven't talked about that I think aren't helpful."}, {"start": "00:59:36", "end": "00:59:42", "text": "Really? Yeah. And you're not going to talk about them? No."}, {"start": "00:59:42", "end": "00:59:48", "text": "All right. Great question, Marcus G."}, {"start": "00:59:48", "end": "00:59:53", "text": "And we got one last one here. And this one, I mean, you know, it could go a"}, {"start": "00:59:53", "end": "00:59:59", "text": "number of ways here by TH Perry."}, {"start": "01:00:06", "end": "01:00:11", "text": "He asks, \"What's the biggest misconception about your abduction?\" Probably, you know, initially the"}, {"start": "01:00:11", "end": "01:00:19", "text": "misperception everybody had that this was u a physical attack by invading"}, {"start": "01:00:19", "end": "01:00:26", "text": "monsters, so to speak. And that was a misconception that it was actually"}, {"start": "01:00:26", "end": "01:00:31", "text": "um some sort of exploratory activity that we happened upon and I uh got"}, {"start": "01:00:31", "end": "01:00:36", "text": "myself injured and I think uh"}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:43", "text": "uh precipitated the necessity to uh correct that mistake which was nearly"}, {"start": "01:00:43", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "fatal or perhaps fatal. I think a lot of that misconception also is probably brewed, you know, in part by"}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:56", "text": "the movie. Yeah, the movie uh got things wrong and"}, {"start": "01:00:56", "end": "01:01:02", "text": "um I've been working on a remake and uh to tell it in a much more constructive"}, {"start": "01:01:02", "end": "01:01:08", "text": "way and add material that wasn't known at the time. Would you say up to the"}, {"start": "01:01:08", "end": "01:01:17", "text": "point where uh the character played by uh DB Sweeney um would you say up to"}, {"start": "01:01:17", "end": "01:01:23", "text": "that point where he wakes up? Was that like an accurate portrayal? Well, not accurate, but you know, you"}, {"start": "01:01:23", "end": "01:01:29", "text": "don't Hollywood accurate. Hollywood is not um not into making documentaries. They're into making"}, {"start": "01:01:29", "end": "01:01:37", "text": "dramas. Yeah. Simple things that they do to simplify the story. They reduced the number of"}, {"start": "01:01:37", "end": "01:01:45", "text": "crew from seven to five. Too many characters to keep track of. And uh the fact that there was compelling evidence"}, {"start": "01:01:45", "end": "01:01:54", "text": "from so many passing police lie detector tests was um traded off against the goal"}, {"start": "01:01:54", "end": "01:02:02", "text": "of simplicity, right? And so in order to simplify the story, they just left things out. uh like for"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:09", "text": "instance um the um um refusal of um law"}, {"start": "01:02:09", "end": "01:02:16", "text": "enforcement to go visit the site that night and saying oh we'll just go"}, {"start": "01:02:16", "end": "01:02:21", "text": "tomorrow but they did both"}, {"start": "01:02:21", "end": "01:02:27", "text": "and uh that complicates the story. it's, you know, okay, you know,"}, {"start": "01:02:27", "end": "01:02:34", "text": "uh, not the progression of a story that they preferred, you know, okay, here's"}, {"start": "01:02:34", "end": "01:02:39", "text": "law enforcement now. We're checking this all out, all that stuff, you know. So"}, {"start": "01:02:39", "end": "01:02:47", "text": "um lot a lot of the fictionalizations were simplifications but the berboard"}, {"start": "01:02:47", "end": "01:02:53", "text": "the craft was um embellished in a"}, {"start": "01:02:53", "end": "01:02:59", "text": "monstrous torture sort of way that was just uh not good. Uh and that definitely"}, {"start": "01:02:59", "end": "01:03:07", "text": "will not be a part of the remake. Yeah, I'm glad to hear it. I think I speak for many people when I say that"}, {"start": "01:03:07", "end": "01:03:13", "text": "the actual story is way more compelling than whatever was portrayed by"}, {"start": "01:03:13", "end": "01:03:18", "text": "Hollywood. I I I you know I'm almost confused at at that decision. But I"}, {"start": "01:03:18", "end": "01:03:25", "text": "understand during that time it's 1993 I believe um you know people were were looking for"}, {"start": "01:03:25", "end": "01:03:30", "text": "a different type of movie in Hollywood. You know people were buying scripts and they wanted horror they wanted gore."}, {"start": "01:03:30", "end": "01:03:36", "text": "They wanted something a little frightening or a lot frightening. Um, but I would love"}, {"start": "01:03:36", "end": "01:03:43", "text": "a remake. Oh my god. Thinks deeper and uh includes some things that uh"}, {"start": "01:03:43", "end": "01:03:49", "text": "uh I think people are hungry for. Maybe some things that you haven't talked about. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:03:49", "end": "01:03:55", "text": "Uh one last thing before I uh before we part ways here, Travis, um during dinner"}, {"start": "01:03:55", "end": "01:04:03", "text": "you were regailing us about a sighting you had. Yeah. I had never heard about this sighting before and I was wondering if"}, {"start": "01:04:03", "end": "01:04:11", "text": "you could retell it here uh for my audience. Well, um it was uh an event uh"}, {"start": "01:04:11", "end": "01:04:22", "text": "um following a talk by um the newly elected uh head of MUON."}, {"start": "01:04:22", "end": "01:04:29", "text": "um and um given uh at a muon meeting that uh Tracy"}, {"start": "01:04:29", "end": "01:04:34", "text": "Tormet also spoke at. Um um"}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:40", "text": "my son and I and my girlfriend were leaving there when we saw"}, {"start": "01:04:40", "end": "01:04:46", "text": "uh a light in the distance that very quickly, very quickly went from a tiny"}, {"start": "01:04:46", "end": "01:04:52", "text": "dot to something very big. And it was three lights that"}, {"start": "01:04:52", "end": "01:04:59", "text": "on the corners of a gigantic black triangle. It It was huge. It was very low and"}, {"start": "01:04:59", "end": "01:05:09", "text": "slow. I mean, this is something that you could probably hit with a rock from. It was so low. And um it was a giant black"}, {"start": "01:05:09", "end": "01:05:17", "text": "triangle, huge, unbelievably large with a round"}, {"start": "01:05:17", "end": "01:05:24", "text": "shimmering glow coming from the point of each tri uh of the triangles."}, {"start": "01:05:24", "end": "01:05:30", "text": "Uh when it stopped, it sort of tipped upward a little bit. I don't know if"}, {"start": "01:05:30", "end": "01:05:37", "text": "that had anything to do with deceleration, but it stopped dead over the top of us,"}, {"start": "01:05:37", "end": "01:05:43", "text": "turned 90\u00b0 to the right. So, the the the point of the triangle was now pointed"}, {"start": "01:05:43", "end": "01:05:49", "text": "off to the west, and then it shot off in that direction."}, {"start": "01:05:49", "end": "01:05:54", "text": "Um, this is something I probably wouldn't have uh reported if it wasn't"}, {"start": "01:05:54", "end": "01:06:03", "text": "for the fact that um there was a a huge number of people who saw it too. This is"}, {"start": "01:06:03", "end": "01:06:12", "text": "in a highly populated part of California and all these uh independent reports"}, {"start": "01:06:12", "end": "01:06:18", "text": "were taken by one particular UFO reporting group."}, {"start": "01:06:18", "end": "01:06:23", "text": "um circles with numbers in them, but you know,"}, {"start": "01:06:23", "end": "01:06:30", "text": "12 or 15 people who didn't know each other, weren't connected, and were all reporting seeing the same thing that we"}, {"start": "01:06:30", "end": "01:06:38", "text": "saw. This had so it had three sort of like"}, {"start": "01:06:38", "end": "01:06:45", "text": "were they were they colorful lights on the edges or Well, it was a kind somewhat of a strange uh color. I wouldn't call it"}, {"start": "01:06:45", "end": "01:06:53", "text": "yellow or white. It was, but it had a shimmer to it that was odd looking straight up into it. Uh I think some"}, {"start": "01:06:53", "end": "01:06:59", "text": "kind of energy source boiling out of there. But uh um say boiling. So it was like was it like"}, {"start": "01:06:59", "end": "01:07:04", "text": "a roing sort of rolling? Yeah. On a very tiny scale, not big, but"}, {"start": "01:07:04", "end": "01:07:10", "text": "uh a vibrational look to it that uh uh"}, {"start": "01:07:10", "end": "01:07:16", "text": "Did you see a sphere in the lights? Like was there like a clear bulb there? didn't seem like, oh, here's a light so"}, {"start": "01:07:16", "end": "01:07:22", "text": "you don't run into us because it was embedded in the surface. So, it was sort of beneath the surface and you don't"}, {"start": "01:07:22", "end": "01:07:30", "text": "fully see it until it's directly over you. So, I think it had something to do with um"}, {"start": "01:07:30", "end": "01:07:35", "text": "keeping it lofted, the propulsion or something. Yeah. And then in the middle there was this"}, {"start": "01:07:35", "end": "01:07:43", "text": "there was a different colored one. No, not in my case. I've heard of many similar cases that had a light in the"}, {"start": "01:07:43", "end": "01:07:49", "text": "center of it. Oh, this one had no light in the center. No. Oh, and so, uh, it must be something that's"}, {"start": "01:07:49", "end": "01:07:58", "text": "only applied some of the time, right? Yeah. Um, but what what is this? Is this, uh,"}, {"start": "01:07:58", "end": "01:08:04", "text": "something some earthbased agency has? I don't know where they hide such a"}, {"start": "01:08:04", "end": "01:08:09", "text": "monstrosity. maybe under the sea, but uh it was huge."}, {"start": "01:08:09", "end": "01:08:16", "text": "And uh if it is an earth-based agency, I think that"}, {"start": "01:08:16", "end": "01:08:26", "text": "would be the reason they stopped directly over the top of us. They knew we would be at that muon meeting and uh"}, {"start": "01:08:26", "end": "01:08:32", "text": "knew where we were at the time. You believe it stopped over over you specifically? I do because you know"}, {"start": "01:08:32", "end": "01:08:38", "text": "there's highly populated area and why you know it'd be a really huge"}, {"start": "01:08:38", "end": "01:08:44", "text": "coincidence to stop over the top of us and then shoot off now. Could have been"}, {"start": "01:08:44", "end": "01:08:50", "text": "aliens on board piloting this thing too. Who knows? Don't know. It was definitely"}, {"start": "01:08:50", "end": "01:08:56", "text": "technology that's not known to be in the possession of humans."}, {"start": "01:08:56", "end": "01:09:02", "text": "And um you were in the car at this point? Yes. Who was driving? Uh, my son was driving. My girlfriend"}, {"start": "01:09:02", "end": "01:09:09", "text": "was in the back seat looking straight up through the glass. She got a real good look at it. Had a very strange sort of"}, {"start": "01:09:09", "end": "01:09:15", "text": "uh semi- gloss black uh texture to it."}, {"start": "01:09:15", "end": "01:09:22", "text": "You described it like scales almost. Yeah, like a tiling like a staggered tile like"}, {"start": "01:09:22", "end": "01:09:29", "text": "almost. Yeah, something like that. And that would be one way that uh"}, {"start": "01:09:29", "end": "01:09:35", "text": "uh fits the description. But uh I never would have reported it just the three of"}, {"start": "01:09:35", "end": "01:09:42", "text": "us except for the fact that you know more than a dozen other people reported the same thing who don't know us and"}, {"start": "01:09:42", "end": "01:09:47", "text": "don't know each other. No, that makes it that makes it definitely worthwhile. But I think I"}, {"start": "01:09:47", "end": "01:09:53", "text": "mean something like that that's that massive I mean that must be just so jarring. You know, you you've had your"}, {"start": "01:09:53", "end": "01:09:58", "text": "fair share of dealing with things, but what did your son and your girlfriend think at the time? Were they just"}, {"start": "01:09:58", "end": "01:10:09", "text": "absolutely shocked that they wanted they want to get out and see this thing? Yeah. Um my my son uh said, \"Uh, Dad,"}, {"start": "01:10:09", "end": "01:10:15", "text": "should we pull over and take a picture?\" I said, \"No, no,"}, {"start": "01:10:15", "end": "01:10:21", "text": "keep going.\" And I I was so surprised to myself that I would respond that way. I"}, {"start": "01:10:21", "end": "01:10:26", "text": "really wish that I had taken a picture. Yeah, but on the on the flip side, you"}, {"start": "01:10:26", "end": "01:10:32", "text": "would also wish he never got out of that truck in 1975. But, you know, maybe the other uh 12 or"}, {"start": "01:10:32", "end": "01:10:38", "text": "15 people who reported it independently, maybe at least couple of them took"}, {"start": "01:10:38", "end": "01:10:44", "text": "pictures. Yeah. I mean, everybody's got a cell phone. What year was this?"}, {"start": "01:10:44", "end": "01:10:51", "text": "93, I believe. Yeah. Okay. Maybe a little prior to cell phones, though. the year that Jan Harzan"}, {"start": "01:10:51", "end": "01:10:58", "text": "took office as the head of Muon. Here's um a depiction, a drawing from a"}, {"start": "01:10:58", "end": "01:11:05", "text": "uh a similar reported sighting. Um well, it's a large triangle"}, {"start": "01:11:05", "end": "01:11:10", "text": "with with what he described to be like a d black diamond tile."}, {"start": "01:11:10", "end": "01:11:16", "text": "Well, I it's not that picture is not a great"}, {"start": "01:11:16", "end": "01:11:23", "text": "drawing. not detailed enough for me to say, \"Oh, yeah, that was it.\" It was definitely something that very, very"}, {"start": "01:11:23", "end": "01:11:30", "text": "high-tech and very faster than anything that we have that that I know of."}, {"start": "01:11:30", "end": "01:11:35", "text": "Scary. How could it move through the air that fast without"}, {"start": "01:11:35", "end": "01:11:40", "text": "um you know, creating a jet stream or something of that nature? Frictionless."}, {"start": "01:11:40", "end": "01:11:46", "text": "Yeah. Wow. Well, thanks for uh thanks for sharing"}, {"start": "01:11:46", "end": "01:11:52", "text": "that with us. Appreciate it. Well, like I said, if it had been just the three of us, I wouldn't have ever"}, {"start": "01:11:52", "end": "01:11:58", "text": "reported it, but had another dozen or so independent witnesses."}, {"start": "01:11:58", "end": "01:12:05", "text": "That's right. And they, you know, gave us their addresses and stuff and I I'd really like to track it down and see if any of"}, {"start": "01:12:05", "end": "01:12:11", "text": "them took a picture. Yeah. Well, let me definitely let me know if you need help with that. Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:12:11", "end": "01:12:17", "text": "I'd be more than happy to help you. Um,"}, {"start": "01:12:17", "end": "01:12:24", "text": "does does that mean because you say you keep saying if it wasn't only the three of"}, {"start": "01:12:24", "end": "01:12:30", "text": "us, I would have never reported it. Does I just realize that uh you have to have"}, {"start": "01:12:30", "end": "01:12:36", "text": "one heck of a lot of corroboration or people think you're just, you know, making it up or trying to get attention"}, {"start": "01:12:36", "end": "01:12:44", "text": "or something like that. So, you know, it serves a a a positive purpose if uh can"}, {"start": "01:12:44", "end": "01:12:49", "text": "remove some doubt and show people that verifiable things are happening."}, {"start": "01:12:49", "end": "01:12:54", "text": "But it makes me it makes me wonder, are there any other incidences that you"}, {"start": "01:12:54", "end": "01:13:01", "text": "failed to report because of this this philosophy? Yeah, there's things that I don't talk"}, {"start": "01:13:01", "end": "01:13:09", "text": "about because I can't prove it. And I don't know. uh it"}, {"start": "01:13:09", "end": "01:13:16", "text": "trying to uh maintain my credibility, I guess. I don't know. It does no good to report"}, {"start": "01:13:16", "end": "01:13:24", "text": "something that people are automatically going to reject. Well, how can I be certain this has happened? Well,"}, {"start": "01:13:24", "end": "01:13:31", "text": "I've had an incident where no nine people witnessed it. Uh my crew and two"}, {"start": "01:13:31", "end": "01:13:37", "text": "others and uh all taking police polygraph tests"}, {"start": "01:13:37", "end": "01:13:45", "text": "multiple times, leaving all kinds of evidence behind."}, {"start": "01:13:45", "end": "01:13:50", "text": "And that still isn't enough to satisfy the skeptics and the people who are"}, {"start": "01:13:50", "end": "01:13:57", "text": "attacking. Maybe even because it is so undeniable"}, {"start": "01:13:57", "end": "01:14:02", "text": "provokes them maybe. But nevertheless,"}, {"start": "01:14:02", "end": "01:14:10", "text": "try to vouch for the reality of this phenomenon. Yeah. I mean, but skeptics aside because"}, {"start": "01:14:10", "end": "01:14:17", "text": "the few voices can be very loud. Um, you know, but put those people aside."}, {"start": "01:14:17", "end": "01:14:22", "text": "There's I'm sure there's there's a lot of people who upon hearing these, you"}, {"start": "01:14:22", "end": "01:14:27", "text": "know, encounters that you've had might be compelled to themselves come forward with some evidence."}, {"start": "01:14:27", "end": "01:14:34", "text": "Yeah. Well, I would encourage them to if they're uh aware of the consequences,"}, {"start": "01:14:34", "end": "01:14:41", "text": "which can be good and bad. And uh yeah, that's"}, {"start": "01:14:41", "end": "01:14:47", "text": "that's part of the what's going on here. Part of I believe the intention of these"}, {"start": "01:14:47", "end": "01:14:52", "text": "visitors is to get that dialogue going."}, {"start": "01:14:52", "end": "01:14:58", "text": "We're we're not the it we're not the only thing in the universe. And don't"}, {"start": "01:14:58", "end": "01:15:05", "text": "get too freaked out about that, but just take that one little tiny tidbit. It ain't just us."}, {"start": "01:15:05", "end": "01:15:11", "text": "And assimilate it. Okay. Okay. Thank you, Travis. I appreciate"}, {"start": "01:15:11", "end": "01:15:15", "text": "your time. Thank you."}]

[{"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "So, I just kind of wanted to call in and"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "share this, but um I dated a girl for"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "about eight years and her dad was always"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "a super serious, you know, retired"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "military guy. Um he was a senior master"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "sergeant for Wright Patterson Air Force"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "Base. And he'd never really been the"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "type to joke or play around. I made a"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "comment one night at a little family"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "function about aliens and kind of took"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "it as a joke and he looks me square in"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "the eyes and says, \"What? You think they"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "don't exist?\" and proceeds to tell me I"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "was a fool for not believing in them"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "that they in fact housed biologics and"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "craft at Wright Patterson for many"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "years. I never heard him speak of it"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "again. It was probably just the sauce"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "that night at the function. But um"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "definitely an eyeopener for me."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Chris"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "Ramsey and welcome back. Well, this"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "isn't an episode of Debriefed. I thought"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "I'd take a second to update you on a few"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "of the things that are happening at Area"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "52 and also why I won't be posting a"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "long form podcast this week. I just got"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "back from a trip to Spain. I kind of go"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "there every year with a group of"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "magicians. we hang out, trade secrets,"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "and just kind of relax and unwind. And"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "if you want to check out a sort of mini"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "documentary that I edited for this trip,"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "uh, which features Jesse Michaels, by"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "the way, who hung out with me in Spain"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "during these, uh, 10 days. Uh, go check"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "it out on I I left the link below. You"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "guys can go watch that video. But"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "something else drew me to this area of"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "Spain. a case"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "involving not only UFO sightings over a"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "military radar base, but also an alleged"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "encounter"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "with a tall Nordic being at that very"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "base. Now, what's interesting and the"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "synchronicity here that I found is that"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "I go to this thing every year and it's a"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "beautiful part of Catalonia. It's just"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "on the coast, Mediterranean. It's"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "absolutely paradise. But overlooking"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "this natural paradise is this very"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "synthetic and militarized sort of sphere"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "that sits at top the highest peak. And"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "this radar base that sits up there"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "actually holds a few secrets. And"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "although this was a vacation, I could"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "not help myself. I had to document some"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "of the weird and high stranges that has"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "occurred around this radar base while"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "there. I also had the opportunity to"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "interview the main witness"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "and that'll be coming up in a few weeks."}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "I haven't had time to sit down and"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "really crunch the edit as I just got"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "back. I'm a little bit jet-lagged. Just"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "wanted to fill you in on one of the"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "investigations that is currently ongoing"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "among many others. By the way, I mostly"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "save these updates for the interns"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "during our membership only videos which"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "we post weekly. I thought I'd let you"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "guys in on some of it at least and maybe"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "hopefully even entice you to go over"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "there and check it out for yourselves."}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "As this channel grows,"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "so must my willingness to let go"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "of some of the menial work."}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "I I'm I'm very very picky when it comes"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "to the quality of this channel. If you"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "hadn't already noticed, I I'm the"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "attention to detail that I have is"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "borderline psychotic."}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "From the sets to the B-roll to the"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "research that goes into every one of"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "these topics and guests,"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "I treat this channel with the utmost"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "care and love and respect that this"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "phenomenon deserves, that this subject"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "deserves. But by doing all of this and"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "editing all of these videos and doing"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "all the research and it it's a lot. It"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "is a lot. I knew going into this that I"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "was getting into something"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "that would consume 99 maybe even 110% of"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "my time. And by that I mean I dream"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "about this stuff too. And as a content"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "creator, someone who's made videos for"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "the past decade, I do understand the"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "repercussions of pouring your heart and"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "soul into a project like this. And I"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "don't want to make some of the mistakes"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "that I've made in the past and end up"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "burning myself out. So, I am currently"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "working with a brand new editor. Well,"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "brand new. This is somebody that's that"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "I've worked with in the past that will"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "be helping me with some of the videos uh"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "starting next month, which is great. So"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "finally I'll have a little bit more"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "wiggle room to actually focus my"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "attention on some of these long form"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "sort of investigations that I've been"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "due to the lack of extra hands"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "neglecting. So bringing people on board"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "doesn't correlate"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "with less work. It just means it allows"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "me, you know, to have time to work more"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "uh or work differently, I would say. All"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "right, enough of the Area 52 updates. I"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "want to also address a few things. This"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "is not a news channel. You know, at the"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "early days of debriefed and the early"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "days of Area 52, we tended to cover a"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "lot more of the topical situations"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "happening throughout the world in the"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "UFO community,"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "but I didn't want to spend my time"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "chasing ambulances. I find it highly"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "stressful. I find it to be honestly"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "just to be exhausting"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "because as you break these stories, I"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "mean, wait a week and you find out that"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "they're a scop or that someone's lying"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "or that, you know, new information comes"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "to light and there's just a neverending"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "slew of news to keep up with. So, it's"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "not something that I comfortably wanted"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "to tackle, although some of it becomes"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "relevant to past investigations which we"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "can then correlate and find connections"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "through. But for the most part, I'd love"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "to just focus on,"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "you know, some of the stuff that already"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "exists. I think that's where some gems"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "are are buried deep. Whether it's the"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "tale of the police officer Herbert"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "Shurmer getting abducted or the meeting"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "with Lertailes or the alien interview"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "with Arrol according to Matilda Maroy,"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "these stories to me are always so much"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "more compelling than 99% of what's"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "happening currently in the UFO"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "Zeitgeist. That being said, while in"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "Spain, there was a congressional"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "hearing. And I won't touch on this too"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "much uh for two reasons. One, I didn't"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "watch the entire thing. I I picked up"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "the cliff notes. I just haven't had time"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "to really catch up. I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "um but two, I think it's great. I think"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "it's great that we talk about it in the"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "spotlight. I think it's great that"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "people like George Knap, you know, have"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "a platform after being a champion for"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "eupfology for decades, you know, going"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "to Russia, retrieving some secret files,"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "like all these breaking the Bob Lazar"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "story. So, I think it was welld deserved"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "that he was up there, I love that. And"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "as for the other people that were up"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "there as well, whether they're first or"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "secondhand witnesses, I don't think it's"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "bad, you know. So, I I I hear a lot of"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "differing opinions on the internet"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "about, oh, it's a nothing burger, or oh,"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "it's this or it's that. Listen, we're"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "talking about it. That's what counts,"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "okay? When it comes to this topic, the"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "more we talk about it, whether it's"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "through these fantastical stories,"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "whether it's through boots on the ground"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "investigations and speaking to"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "witnesses, or whether it's in Congress,"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "or whether it's News Nation breaking"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "another whistleblower, whatever it is,"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "we're talking about it."}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "You know, if there's one thing that"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "brings us all together,"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "whether it's skeptics,"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "whether it's believers, whether it's"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "experiencers, whether it's witnesses,"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "whether it's what have you, is the fact"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "that we're all interested in this"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "phenomenon."}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "We're all looking for the truth at the"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "end of the day. And and and people go"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "about that in different little ways. And"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "uh one of those ways happens to be"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "through these congressional hearings,"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "which to me,"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "you know, is the least interesting,"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "I'll admit."}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "Um has become the least interesting, I"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "will say. But that doesn't mean it's"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "irrelevant and it doesn't mean it isn't"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "important."}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "It's just personally I'd rather speak to"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "a farmer,"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "you know, um than to like a lawmaker,"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "we'll say."}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "It's just kind of how I think my road to"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "disclosure"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "is paved. But that being said, I am so"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "thankful for people like UAP Gerb. I'm"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "so thankful for people like Jesse"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "Michaels and even all the other uh"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "podcasts that are out there that are"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "covering this stuff relentlessly. I'm so"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "thankful that they're there, that I get"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "to um sort of absorb my news through"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "these really hardworking podcasters like"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "the UAP Files, Vetted,"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "um Disclosure Team, I know I'm missing a"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "whole bunch here, weaponized, uh Matt"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "Ford, any anybody. Pick pick your"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "poison. I know a lot of people have"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "differing opinions when it comes to the"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "content they consume or the creator that"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "creates that content. And that's totally"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "fine. You're totally entitled to having"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "your own opinion. But I'm just thankful"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "that people are out there speaking about"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "it. Now, how they speak about it may or"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "may not be your cup of tea, but"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "I think it's important that we at least"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "recognize that there are people working"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "diligently towards getting what they"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "feel is the truth."}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "That's all that's all I wanted to say"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "about that. Like an astronaut walking a"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "tight rope,"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "we need to seek a balanced perspective."}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "And in order to do so, we need extremes."}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "We need everything. We need the good,"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "the bad, the ugly. Give it all to me."}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "Give me the weird, the fantastical. Give"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "me the lies. Give me the truth. Give me"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "everything. Let me catalog it. Let me"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "sort it out. Let me find connections"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "myself. Let me create hypotheses. And"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "let me ponder these radical theories,"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "but let me do so without committing to"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "anything. And I think that's something"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "that is completely overlooked in today's"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "day and age. Everybody expects you to"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "have some binary differing opinion. I"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "think it's just so important that we"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "just collect information, allow people"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "to give you that information and then"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "just sit back and and and see what type"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "of"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "connections we can make ourselves"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "without necessarily concretizing a solid"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "opinion and then being forced to defend"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "it. Let's just"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "suspend it all."}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "I feel like I was channeling something"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "right there. Speaking of which, what do"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "you guys think of channelers? I'd be"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "interested in having one on the podcast."}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "I think it'd be an interesting"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "conversation. Uh maybe even someone like"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "Bashar,"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "um or Abraham Hicks, I think it is, or"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "you know, any of these sort of uh really"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "popular channelers. I would would love"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "to pick their brains. It's always been a"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "really difficult thing for me to wrap my"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "head around. Mostly because of the"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "packaging seems so silly"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "of someone, you know, just kind of like"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "almost in a state of possession sort of"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "spewing what seems like random words in"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "a sequence of varying intonations. Just"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "Well, today is the podcast where we Yes,"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "we are here. We are here. We are very"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "happy to be here. Yes, indeed, dear one."}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "Yes, we are here. Yes, we do have a"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "message for you and your community in"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "the world. There will be a shift that"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "will happen in your planet. The"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "frequency,"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "you know, like this type like that seems"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "silly to me, but then the message itself"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "has value. Like it really does. Like if"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "you if you look into this stuff for even"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "just a few minutes, you'll realize that"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "like people like Bashar"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "are extremely consistent with the amount"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "of information, the quality of"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "information that they present. So"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "whether that's practiced or rehearsed"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "sort of pattern throughout the decades"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "of them doing this or if they are in"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "fact sort of channeling something or"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "maybe they're just digging really deep"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "within themselves. You know I think it's"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "a Carl Sean quote that says"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "we are so out of touch with our higher"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "selves that when we hear a voice"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "in our minds we think it's aliens."}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "And I think that's just I I probably"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "butchered that quote, but I the"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "sentiment sort of remains the same, but"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "I would love to know what you guys think"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "because I think that that could be"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "perhaps some type of um middle ground"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "between interviewing an alien, which I"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "still think is possible, by the way. I"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "know some of you are out there being"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "like, \"You're crazy, Chris. You're never"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "going to interview an alien.\" Says who?"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "All right. I I I do believe I will. I"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "think one day I will. Maybe I won't even"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "know it. Who knows? But maybe, yeah,"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "maybe a good middle ground is to make a"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "contact through, you know, a channeler."}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "I don't know. I'm gra I'm just grasping"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "here. You know, what else do I got to"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "work with? This is this is this is why"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "I'm here. All right. I'm I'm I'm"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "reaching for the fantastical. I'm"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "accepting everything. Let's go. Let's"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "make it happen. Another thing that I"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "wanted to address in the news is is"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "this. So, the user by the name of WOW uh"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "posted this on Twitter. Not sure if this"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "is a mistake by the National Archives. I"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "found a video with no audio attached to"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "researchers going through documents and"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "videos of photographs related to the"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "Roswell incident in 1947. Did they"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "forget to edit out this part showing"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "pictures of debris and possibly a craft"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "buried in the mesa? Are these the first"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "pictures of the 1947 UFO crash site? I"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "could be totally wrong. Worth checking."}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "Now, this is extremely interesting"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "because the craft, as you can see here,"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "which kind of is a little bit hard to"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "see, but if you look at the comparison"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "to the drawings that the witnesses from"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "the Roswell crash"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "uh depicted, there is a stunning"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "resemblance."}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "Now, mind you, this could also be some"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "type of jet"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "uh that crash landed that was some type"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "of experimental plane or drone. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "saying it isn't that. I just think it's"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "interesting that within the Roswell"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "National Archives, this would pop up and"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "it does match the description of the"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "Roswell craft. But not only that, here's"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "where it gets a little eerie. About 10"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "to 20 feet away from this craft, someone"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "pointed out that this kind of looks like"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "a being,"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "like some type of mangled alien body"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "that was ejected from this craft, which"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "would again match what the witnesses"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "said."}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "Now, let me know if any of that is"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "ludicrous to you or whether this merits"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "further investigation, which I think it"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "does. I think it's very interesting. Any"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "information that we have again is is"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "just is just high very welcome around"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "here. I hope you enjoy this little"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "update. These are going to be very few"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "and very far between because we got a"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "lot of stuff down the pipeline which I"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "am really excited to share with all of"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "you. Check out area52.shop if you want"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "to support us over here. Check out the"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "memberships, do all the things, but most"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "of all have an awesome weekend and we'll"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "see you guys next week for another"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "episode. Peace and love."}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "Freeze this frame and watch the eyelids. That shouldn't be easy to fake in 2011."}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "14 years later, there's still no set photo, no maker, and no clean original tapes. This is one of the most unusual"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "videos I've ever seen. And today, we're going to separate the footage from the"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "packaging and let the details speak for themselves. Quick rewind to 2011. The UK drops 35 Ministry of Defense UFO files."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "8,500 pages were set out to the public, including pages from pilots, people who"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "claim they've been abducted, mass sightings. Then the FBI launches the vaults and the 1950 hodddle memo gets"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "released, sparking an insane amount of interest among UFO researchers. And in March of 2011, the Pentagon admitted to"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "having 24,000 highly classified and sensitive files"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "stolen from them. And in the middle of this crazy storm,"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "a new channel emerges on YouTube and uploads four of the most mysterious,"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "eerie, and jaw-dropping videos of what seems to be real aliens and real UFOs."}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "So today I break down all the clips. The closeup with the stometer where they"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "measure out this being, the color walk with human escorts, the crash site, the"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "autopsy, the flying saucers just hovering in the sky. If this was a hoax,"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "it was at the highest level. And if this is real, it was definitely curated."}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "Either way, it is the most convincing alien footage on YouTube and it has yet"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "to be fully debunked. Like this video, subscribe, hit the notification bell, and I'll see you guys in the bunker."}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "In about 2002, when my daughter was around 10 years old, we were driving"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "north on 80 towards Travis Air Force Base and we noticed three big rigs"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "driving in the slow lane that were oversized, silver, very, very clean looking and didn't have license plates."}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "So, we were very curious about this. So, we drove closer and pulled up alongside of them. And my daughter, being the"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "brave little girl that she was, stared at them pretty hard. And I would glance"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "over as well. And all three drivers looked alike. They all had very white,"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "pale skin, slick black, black hair, wore dark sunglasses,"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "and white button-up shirts with a black tie. And no matter how much my daughter"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "gawkked at them, they wouldn't move. They wouldn't acknowledge her. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "bunker. This video is going to be a little different this week and I'm going to try"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "and spice things up just to, you know, shuffle it up a bit, keep you guessing. Normally, we look through these Freedom"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "of Information Act documents or chapters from old books that I've had or old cases in fact or even transcripts from"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "videos. But today, we're going to be looking at a video, well, multiple videos,"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "featuring the most famous alien on the internet, according to me. This"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "unresolved case has been haunting me and plaguing me for years. There's a massive"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "debate online. Some people think it's clearly fake due to some of the things that they've added in posts, and some"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "people, especially the people that have looked further into this, have said,"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "\"Well, let's not jump the gun.\" So, originally these videos were posted by a user to YouTube by the name of Ivan0135."}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "He's only posted four videos. Those the only videos that live on the channel. He's added descriptions to some of these"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "videos, and he's even responded to an email allegedly, which we'll get into a little bit later, that sheds a little"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "bit more light and adds context to some of these uh postings. This was posted in April, I think April 13th, the first one"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "in 2011. 2011 was a bit of a remarkable year for UFOs"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "in general. You see, the Ministry of Defense in the UK released 35 files on"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "UFO encounters. Over 24,000 secret files, top secret files from the"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "Pentagon were stolen. Makes you wonder, was Skinny Bob a part of that leak? The"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "FBI launches the vault archives where you can go and through the Freedom"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "of Information Act and and through all the other released files, you can go search uh some declassified stuff on the"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "FBI's website and just check out their archive. The most famous and the most"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "clicked on piece of document on the entire website surfaced, which was the"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "Hodddle memo, which is this here. And the huttle memo is basically about a guy, Guy Hodddle, u that wrote to the"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "director of the FBI saying that an investigator for the Air Force stated that three so-called flying saucers had"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "been recovered in New Mexico. They were described as being circular in shape with raised centers approximately 50 ft"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "in diameter. Each one was occupied by three bodies. First of all, 50 ft in"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "diameter, three bodies. Who does that sound like? This sounds like the sports model. Uh each one was occupied by three"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "bodies of human shape but only 3ft tall dressed in metallic cloth of a very fine"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "texture. Each body was bandaged in a manner similar to the blackout suits used by speed flyers and test pilots."}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "They also said that the saucers that were found in New Mexico were dropped due to very high-powered radar setup in"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "that area. And it's believed the radar interferes with the controlling mechanism of the saucer. So that went"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "absolutely haywire when that came out. That was April 2011. Quite timely. Quite"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "timely indeed. So, either Ivan had this video in his back pocket and was like,"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "\"This is a perfect time to release, you know, the craziest alien video ever.\""}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "or this was from March of the same year"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "and he doctorred the video a little bit to mask it using the audio or or or the"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "scratch marks or the fake KGB symbol. Maybe that's what happened. And why"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "would he do that? Well, we'll get into that a little bit later. There's several reasons why you might want to do that, including 2011 was a different time"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "period. It isn't like today. if you wanted clicks online or you wanted people to see your videos, you know,"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "we're we're talking about the uh alien autopsy video, you know, the famous one, the graphic one where they're, you know,"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "which again still debated. Is it real? Is it not? I'm leaning towards not, but the virality of that video, you know, is"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "similar to this. So maybe he wanted to emulate that video a little bit more to, you know, give it a little bit more"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "legs. Well, that isn't it for 2011 because April 2011, in the exact same"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "month, the Russian teenagers confessed to the"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "alien in the snow video, this one here, being a hoax. They said it was made of"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "chicken skin and bread, which I still don't see. I mean, you get an A+ in your"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "home class if you're making chicken skin bread aliens look this good. And not to"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "mention, in pop culture, we had Alien themed movies. We had Battle of Los Angeles in March, Paul in March, Super 8"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "in June, and The Darkest Hour in December. So quite an eventful year 2011"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "was for the UFO community. I mean that it sounds like the heyday."}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "It sounds like, you know, the golden age. Okay, so we're going to break down the videos one at a time in order. I"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "will let you watch the entirety of the video after which uh we'll go through a"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "little bit of a breakdown consulting uh skinny bobob.info as that's probably the"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "best place to get all the information out of it. The first video here was released in April and it shows footage"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "of a saucer-shaped UFO hovering above a building. It looks to be shot from the perspective of a moving car. Then the"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "footage transitions to a closer look at the craft as seen in the air from maybe a plane or a helicopter and before"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "depicting the scene of what appears to be a nonfatal UFO crash with the UFO in"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "the background, smoke billowing from the UFO, and then one being seen standing in"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "the footage before the camera pans uh to the downed craft and another being laying on the floor. Let's have a look"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "at this video. Heat."}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "Heat."}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "incredibly disturbing. I don't know, maybe just me. It looks disturbing to me. I see something like that and"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "there's just part of me that's like creeped out thinking this might be real. But before we get"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "into the analysis of the videos, let's analyze something in sort of the"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "metadata of the video. There is the description of the video that we're going to take a look at. So the"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "description here is really interesting. It says leaked Air Force UFO footage."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "Okay, first of all, so Air Force, we're talking Project Blue Book back then, not 1942. I believe it was 1952, but the"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "range works out as it says classified document 1942 to 1969."}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "Relevant information. The video contains a sample edited fragments, a sample"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "edited fragments of tapes 01, 03, and 04. Tape duration is"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "180 minutes, 3 hours, folks. and we're getting 1.26"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "minutes. Okay, so these are fragments apparently from different tapes. Tape one has a title tinbird."}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "Tape three, flying twin. Tape four has blue boys"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "and blue boys meeting. Now what do they mean by blue boys? Obviously flying"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "twin. Assume this is some type of code language for the craft. Uh, same with"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "tin bird. But blue boys, I mean that's interesting. Blue boys according to a"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "lot of research can mean one of two things. One, assuming a German origin, it could be translated to blau yungs,"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "which literally translates to blue boys in German. Uh, but that was the name or"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "the term they used for the Marines that were in the German Navy during World War II."}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "Blau, blue boys. And the other more probable explanation would be this. So"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "it might actually be a moniker that's referring to project blue book staff. So a report by Lauren E. Gross from 1971"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "cites a NYAP publication on page 5 containing the following paragraph. I"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "duly noted the myriad explanations given out by the blue book staff widely referred to as the little blue boy blues"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "or the little blue boys of sightings which they evaluated as mistakenly identified stars, planets, meteors, etc."}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "So project blue book was created in 1952, but the material in Ivid's possession was allegedly covering a span"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "from 1942 to 1969. Now, Blue Book again had only been created in 52. So, what are we talking"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "about here? When's this footage from? Now, assuming they used the words Blue"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "Boys in the context of Project Blue Book, you know, that would put this somewhere after 1952, unless Ivan just"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "randomly put that in there, not realizing the slight anacronism. So, here is the website, skinnybob.info,"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "and it says a forensic analysis. Let's read the forward here real quick. We present a detailed analysis of allegedly"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "leaked UFO and alien footage. This time it's not about lights in the sky or anecdotal reports, but ambiguous"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "imagery. Authentic evidence of extraterrestrial visitation would be among the most"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "sensitive and closely guarded secrets kept by intelligence agencies around the world. Without an official disclosure"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "process, the only way for the general public to tap into such knowledge is through whistleblowers and and"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "occasional leaks. We might be dealing with such a leak here. If your initial"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "reaction is dominated by disbelief and ridicule, your brain is wired properly to live a healthy life in a complex"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "world, but perhaps not to unveil something truly exceptional far out in the fringe. In hope and prospect of"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "doing so, we dare to peak into this rabbit hole with an open mind, an expectation to witness initial absurdity"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "becomes becoming harsh reality. Be careful with quick and overly confident"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "assessments based on cursory inspection of the material and preconceived notions"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "about the topic. Both credul and premature rejection could be misleading."}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "Promoting the possibility of Skinny Bob being authentic is a bet against all odds and bears the danger of getting"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "carried away by a fantasy. But since unlikely things happen every once in a while, what if the truth is actually"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "right in front of you? Now, let's talk about Ivan for a second. The videos were uploaded to a YouTube channel named"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "Ivan0135 in 2011. The channel was created the same day the first video was uploaded on April 13th. According to the"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "channel description, the creator is from Russia and was born in 1969. We can't verify the channel creator"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "and/or uploader is in fact a single individual and really named Ivan. For the sake of simplicity, however, we"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "continue to refer to the uploader as Ivan and address him as a single individual throughout this website. According to the information provided,"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "the uploaded clips are small samples selectively taken from a larger"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "collection of video material. The original footage is apparently spread across several physical tapes."}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "Ivan provides detailed lists of tape numbers and timestamps for all the clips presented, even embeds an animated"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "timestamp in the first two videos to indicate where the original footage, the sequence was taken from. So, Ivan put a"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "bunch of keywords as well for the SEO, the search engine optimization. Uh, the"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "keywords are, you know, UFO, crash accident, alien, department, leak,"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "abduction, New Mexico, yada yada yada yada yada. It does say, however, note"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "the misspelling of Roswell and sloppiness with spaces causing, for"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "example, top and secret to become separate tags. Uh that misspelling of"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "declassified as deesclassified could be due to the Spanishportuguese"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "equivalent of desificado. Uh this could hint to Ivan's native"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "language. Very interesting stuff indeed. Or a purpose, you know, a purposeful red"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "herring. Who knows? So these are all the original videos. We've just checked one out. Now, we're going to be talking"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "about that first one. So, the very first video Ivan uploaded starts with an image showing the insignia of the KGB, the"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "main security agency of the Soviet Union. Above and below are black bars"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "seemingly censoring something. Okay, it's so cool to know that there's like internet detectives out there. It's such"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "an awesome thing because it turns out that the still image was actually taken from a documentary, The Secret KGB UFO"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "Files, released in 1998. It featured a crashed UFO and an autopsy"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "of an alien body. So, the Secret KGB UFO files video released in 1998 was"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "successfully and sufficiently debunked, making it a commercial hoax. So, Ivan"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "used something that was on a hoaxed video and overlaid it on this. How"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "strange. Just a quick reminder, guys, don't forget to check out our brand new Area 52 T's. These classic TE's feature"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "the Area 52 logo embroidered on the front and printed on the back. They're super comfy. Check them out. Area"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "52.shop. [Music] The dirt overlay. Okay, this part is"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "really important for skeptics and believers alike. Ivan tampered with the"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "original footage by applying various effects such as damage film overlay like"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "this. So, Brooklyn robot on Reddit managed to track down the exact film damage overlay. Ivan used the shutter"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "stock and the pawn five. And now you look at it, it's exactly"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "exactly the same. You know, here are all the layers. This is so good. I mean, such a great deep"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "dive here. Possibly another film editor, but so many layers were applied. And"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "here's the order. Oh my god. So, the upload date of the oldest stock with artifacts. Boom. you know, the KGB and"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "then multiple uh ghosting image ghosting, the black redaction shapes, the horizontal banding lines and the"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "slight slight rolling warp, the diagonal rainbow mo and then the uh meg"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "artifacts. That is so cool that they went and did this. I love the internet for that. So again, we look at the"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "timestamps here. Those were put in uh post. So now we got to look at"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "motivations. What would compel someone to do this? Number one, spicing up bland"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "footage. Imagine getting a hold of highly sensitive leaked UFO and alien footage from the 1940s, and it does not"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "even remotely look like you or the general public expect it to look like."}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "Meticulously assembled clips of clean recordings for scientific documentation and archival purposes. Ivan might have"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "thought that the least that at least for the initial release it has to conform to"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "certain visual expectations to gain traction. That's a really interesting thought and I don't rule that thought"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "out at all. You know, if you put out something that's too clean, people might assume that it's CGI. Now, obviously all"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "of us watching this video disagree. We're like, \"No, because then you can"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "prove it's fake. That's terrible. It's a terrible idea.\" But at the time, this is 2011. This is"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "prior to really having so many people on the internet understanding what, you"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "know, raw footage looks like. It's a different time. So, we do have to acknowledge that. And again coming from"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "the you know past u autopsy video which"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "you know featured similar grain he might have thought maybe I have to spice it up"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "for people to actually watch it. Number two is incompetence and na uh naivity."}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "Never underestimate human decision uh making and the possibility of bizarre reasoning like I thought it looks cooler"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "that way and that you know you can't rule that out. Also three, planned degradation. The effect could have been"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "an integral part of hoaxing of a hoaxing project to hide imperfections to limit"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "production costs. Now this is highly likely in my opinion. If you are going to hoax something, like for instance"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "today, this is really interesting because now that we have AI video, if I want to mask something to make sure that"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "you don't think it's AI, I might do so by adding in film, you know, blurs and"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "scratches and mo and all of these different tactics, maybe a shaky camera so that you can't pinpoint whether or"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "not I have six fingers on my hand. Number four is blackmail. The leaker"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "might have wanted to show just enough to make the original owner aware of the extent of the leak with the implicit"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "threat of an uncontrolled release. Number five, responsibility. Ivan Ivan might have tampered with the footage to"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "initially keep it in a gray zone and gauge the reaction of the general public to determine how to move forward. Six,"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "damage control. If the material was stolen from the Pentagon, as we mentioned before, or defense"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "contractors, they might have decided to release heavily edited parts to"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "jeopardize claims of authenticity and anticipation for the full material to surface at some point."}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "This to me seems like it might be the most probable reason."}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "Meaning that the Defense Department, knowing full well that this stuff was out there, wanted to nip it in the butt."}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "So created some type of like hoax like footage, put it out there in case"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "somebody backed this up somewhere and was going to release it that I don't know, but it does seem like that's"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "something they would attempt. The problem there is that if I was holding on to that footage and I saw some fake"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "Skinny Bob footage out there, I'd be like, \"You got it all wrong. I've got the real footage. Check this out.\" So,"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "you know, maybe number seven, ego. Ivan might have received a portion of the"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "original footage with the condition to publish it only in an edited form so that releasing the full material remains"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "a privilege of the actual source. and eight power. Ivan might enjoy the feeling of being in possession of"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "material other people would die for to get a hold of and create a teaser to feast on the begging for more content."}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "Number nine, ambiguous provenence intentional obuscation as a layer of"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "abstraction and dewatermarking attempt in case of multiple distinct copies circulating among those in the note. I"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "think that's also possible. If you look at whistleblowers today, whistleblowers in giant quotation marks, but if you"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "look at people today going through the Doppser sort of approved"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "path to disclosure, they're often redacting a lot of what they put in books or what they say or what they put"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "in writing or what they show. Even, you know, we look at fleer footage, you look at photos that the Pentagon's released"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "through Arrow and they're all sort of redacted. It's all like small little chunks of something. It's blurry."}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "It would seem like you don't want to release any national security threatening evidence or just"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "information. So, you might blur, cut, and you know, shape things so that it"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "doesn't actually harm national security. That's a possibility. And finally, the audio effects. Okay, so Ivan's videos"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "are either on mute or emulate the sound of an old film projector to create the illusion that what is shown has been"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "captured from a screening of old film reels. We're pretty sure this was not the case. As shown in the previous"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "section, the audio might just be another stock effect."}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "Um, Red Dwarf B discussed it rudimentary but without a conclusion. the problem in"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "its simplicity and low information density with arbitrary tampering potential. It could come from anywhere"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "and it's easy to drag and drop an audio track as the other effects. If the stock film damage was not discovered, tracking"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "down matching stock projector noises would be interesting. But now that we already know the stock effects were used, it's probably of no additional"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "value. And I agree there. Whether he's filming it from a screen, like if somebody's actually projecting it, or if"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "he added those sounds in post is completely irrelevant at this point, now that we know that the visual effects"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "have been added in postp production. Now, let's get all this straight. All"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "the layers that are on the original footage, we can assume to be complete garbage,"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "fake nonsense. I'm with you there. But what about the core? What about the"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "video itself? What about the contents of the video? Are those fake?"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "Well, this is where things get a little more interesting and, pardon the pun,"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "becomes a bit of a gray area. So, let's start with video one. Video one features"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "the tin bird and it's a poetic description of the classical UFO looking uh like a metallic saucer we see in this"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "very first clip. Contrary to what people think when watching the shaky video for the first time, the UFO is not flying"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "along a trajectory, but actually hovering statically in the sky. We've got this what looks to be reflective"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "surface metallic football-shaped object. Now, I won't say disc because it does not look like a disc. It does from this"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "angle, however, it might be a disc, but looks like a football and it's just kind of chilling there. It says, \"Without"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "context, the hovering object could be an oval tethered balloon. At first glance, it could also be mistaken for a blimp at"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "a distance.\" So, if you look at the blimp here, the image of the blimp, uh, it does look like it could be that, but"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "blimps usually do have fins and various protrusions. And so, you would, you know, expect to"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "at least partially see some of that. And it says here, \"Furthermore, blimps are"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "typically huge and the object we see is not much wider than the uh than one of the trees it's hovering above.\" Given"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "the context, the object is an alien spacecraft. If Ivan presented the videos in"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "chronological order, we hypothesize that the UFOs we see in the clips are"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "actually identical. So, first it's in the air as shown in Tin Bird and Flying"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "Twin, and later crashed on the ground in Blue Boys. The topology of the hull can"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "be seen accurately in blue boys and allows for a comparison with a few good"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "zoomed-in frames of the flying twin, revealing obvious similarities and thus supporting this hypothesis. Besides the"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "UFO, the house is also interesting to analyze and could help narrowing down the geographical location the encounter"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "took place in. So, I will say from my own eyeball, I find it interesting that"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "although this stabilized image, you know, it does feel like we are looking"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "at the UFO, the camera's actually looking at the house."}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "And if you were if you had a UFO out there,"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "unless the camera's No, the camera's clearly moving with the house. It's you see it in the frame following the house,"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "which you know, if if the UFO was actually there, that's not what you'd be filming. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "it was a focus issue. I don't know. Here's the website. Says it needs your help. It says if you recognize this"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "house and hey, we have the whole internet here. Says please contact them. So, reach out to myself or reach out to"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "skinnyobu uh.info. And uh here's a 3D reconstruction. Man,"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "so proud of the internet with this stuff."}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "So, this is it here. A 3D construction of the house. Pretty remarkable,"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "actually, that they were able to reconstruct that. And now they're saying because of the construction of the house"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "and the trees and everything else. It seems like this might be like an Acadian or Cinjun style house or a plantation"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "mansion or a southern mansion. So like somewhere in New Orleans or that type of deal. You can see here as well uh the"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "chimneys and the the protrusions in the house. Also they said when analyzing the house in the video care must be taken to"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "not mistake artifacts from post-processing effects as actual features of the house. So as you can see here it looks a lot longer than it is"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "fine. The vegetation as well. And look at this. They've even gone so far as to"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "recreate the trajectory of where the camera is pointing. So, they get an estimation of the path the camera"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "traveled and thus a rough shape of the street or railroad track near the house."}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "All of this, by the way, will just help you pinpoint exactly where this is, which to my knowledge hasn't been"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "discovered yet. And I assume with people like Rainbolt or, you know, Chat GBT, we"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "might be able to find this one day. Now, the flying twin. This time, the UFO is"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "not filmed from the ground as the tin bird, but from the sky and presumably from an airplane or early helicopter."}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "So, the name flying twin is a bit mysterious and might refer to the situation in the sky where the aircraft"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "is being accompanied by the UFO in close proximity. When pilots report UFO encounters, they often claim the UFO was"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "mirroring their movements while maintaining a constant distance. Such maneuvering might have led to that"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "title. Flying twin. Also, the Germans developed an airplane apparently called"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "twilling, which means twin. Is that the plane they're using? The United States Air Force Beachcraft Model 18 was also"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "nicknamed Twin Beach. And specifically, the F2 model was used for photographic"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "reconnaissance. That seems a lot more likely. But also 1942 was the first"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "long-d distanceance flight of a Sakorski XR4 helicopter which took place in the United States. What if this historic"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "flight attracted someone or something? If Flying Twin was actually filmed from a"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "helicopter, it was not necessarily during this particular historic flight. For location finding purposes, however,"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "it might be interesting to follow the route described in the recollection of the pilot. So, here you see basically a"}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "shaky camera operator filming this plane and sort of what to expect, which kind of, you know, matches"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "what we're seeing here. Look at this, man. Just look at that. Isn't that wild?"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "Unbelievable. So, the following image is a stitched panorama of the better flying"}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "twin frames showing the area uh we hope to eventually track down. So, this is so"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "cool. They've stitched together the frames. Look at this. Look at this. How incredible is this?"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "They've they've mapped out the area using"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "like computer graphics and using what little information they had. And so with"}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "that, they were able to determine that these are probably, you know, either green houses or places for agricultural"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "purposes, maybe places to, you know, house a bunch of cows. It's also talking"}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "about the automobiles and the train wagons that go by. I mean, really, really interesting stuff. But now we"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "have the first impression of an alien being. This one is a little hard to identify as you can see because of the"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "low lighting, but there are several interesting movements"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "and what appears to be uniform as well in this video. Looks"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "like it's wearing like a turtleneck, but not quite like a almost like a spaceuit. And it does look silvery and shiny,"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "which is also, you know, coincidentally or not coincidentally what uh Guy Hodddle"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "talked about in that memo and so many others by the way. So right here it's saying that there might be some stuff in"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "the background. And if you take a look at uh C and D here, it almost looks like"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "it could be the craft in the background, but then it also might be a person. and"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "a person might be more likely. And then that person might be holding a gun or or"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "or antenna from a military backpack radio. Both of which are a little hard to determine. I'll be I'll be frank, but"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "you know, the alien is interesting. So, the next scene shows what could be the UFO seen in the Flying Twin and possibly"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "the Tin Bird, but at this time as burning wreckage on the ground. As if it wasn't enough, there's also an alien"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "body lying nearby. All right, for dramatic effect. So, we have smoke obviously billowing from this craft and"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "then it pans to this alien just lying down. And this is this is probably one"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "of the coolest things that they've done in my opinion. An alternative video stabilization shows how the camera is"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "rotating and captures the crash scene moving towards and orbiting around the"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "body. So if you see here, it shows the entire scene."}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:43", "text": "And if you stitch all that together, it kind of gives you this image here. So"}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "we see here we have, you know, some brush, we have the craft, and we have the body all in one particular scene."}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "Very interesting. You can also see the smoke section here. And oh, this is cool. A faint lens flare might seem like"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "nothing, but a lens flare proves that whatever's happening is happening in"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "camera and is not done in post. Obviously, it could be done in post, but I mean I don't think given everything"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "else that that would make s who knows, but with it makes sense with the movement. It says here, note that such"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "flares generated inside the camera housing and depend on the angle a bright light source source such as the sun is"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "hitting the lens system. The clip above has been motion stabilized, resulting in"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "the flares moving pretty much linearly. Ooh. So although it's shaky, the flare"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "is moving linearly. That's interesting. So it turns out that"}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "this seemingly minor and overlooked effect is proof for an artificially"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "induced camera shake. as a post-processing effect. The"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "original footage should display a much more reasonable and calm camera handling."}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "That's crazy. He added a camera shake effect in there and you can tell because"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "of the lens flare. That's so cool. So here, when stabilizing the whole scene, certain dark smudges turn out to be"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "additional smoke and shadows casted by the plumes. So, the the smoke that's"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "coming out here that we're seeing is actually casting shadows here. That is,"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "I mean, beyond technical if you were to hoax this using CGI. Also, around the alien seem to be"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "footprints coming from the direction of the UFO behind, telling the story that the alien climbed out of the wreckage,"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "managed to walk away, but eventually collapsed. I feel sad for this little being. Just wanted to say that. So, the"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "alien lying there might not be dead. A closer look reveals that it's still"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "moving. Look at the hand, folks."}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "And this hand, too. And the head. Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "Finger of the right hand is likely contracting in A. The head appears to be rolling slightly in B. And the left hand"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "appears to be twisting in C. Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "That's crazy. Now, only in Blue Boys do we see the whole body in its entirety,"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "including the feet and legs and head, which is extremely helpful in roughly"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:34", "text": "estimating the height of Skinny Bob. And this is how it's done. They create a"}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "coarse digital model of the alien based on proportions. Uh we have uh Skinny Bob"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "standing under a uh stometer later which is like this measuring"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "device that they had back in the 40s and 50s and then they estimate uh the camera and the sun position"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "to align with the torso and feet in the 2D image and that's the result. So the"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "result is this. Have a look at this folks. Check this out. Here"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "we got the body. This is later in the footage when we look at the uh family vacation,"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "the footage earlier in this video and then the later Skinny Bob footage. They all match up. And they do that by"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "looking at the thickness of the arms and the legs and comparing them. And that's how they sort of size them up, which is"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "really smart. Here is the blue boys meeting. So, we're seeing an autopsy"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "performed on an alien body. Assuming the original tape is longer than a few seconds Ivan provided, there might be"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:47", "text": "more going on that causes the title Blue Boys Meeting to make sense. Okay."}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "And here is the stitched together panorama"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "uh reveals the corpse as a whole. Here you go. The long arms. Look how long those arms are. And the face here, tiny"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "mouth, tiny nose, eyes that wrap around the side of the head. Exactly like what"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:11", "text": "so many people describe. Also, it says that just like small details like the"}, {"start": "00:38:11", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "tablecloths back there is something that they had in the 40s. There's a dark spot on the glove the physician is wearing in"}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:23", "text": "his left hand. One single frame is focused just right to reveal more"}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "details. So random stains perhaps two-digit resembling the number 98."}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "Maybe that's a bit of a stretch. So anyways, this is just more corroborating"}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "evidence of, you know, this stuff. This"}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "next video, well, have a look and we'll discuss it after."}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:39:39", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "Now, that's got to be that's got to be the eeriest little"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "video ever. When I I remember when I first saw this video, I thought to myself, like that initial feeling was"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "like, \"Holy crap, I think this is real.\" And that feeling never really left me."}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:04", "text": "Every time I see it, there's something in my gut that tells me it's real. Let me know in the comments if you feel that"}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "too. Intuitively speaking, not from evidence, just intuitively. You look at it and you're like,"}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "something about this creature, this being seems like it's real. If a hoax, I"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "mean, well done. Incredibly well done. Well, let's head to skinnybob.info to"}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:28", "text": "see if this is a hoax. So, here this is a more detailed clip of Skinny Bob"}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "featuring his entire body, featuring his, you know, blinking, his hands twitching."}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "Uh, very, very just very strange. It says Ivan might have reversed the"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "playback direction for dramatic effect so that the head appears last. One clue is the shaking of the camera, which"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:52", "text": "could have been caused by the operator touching and preparing the camera on a tripod for pivoting. We take the liberty"}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:57", "text": "of showing the clip in reverse here despite having no conclusive evidence. So that's a good guess. Closeup"}, {"start": "00:40:57", "end": "00:41:03", "text": "inspection of the blinking could further support or refute our suspicion of reverse playback. Okay. Regardless if"}, {"start": "00:41:03", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "it's reversed, I don't think it matters. But yes, on A,"}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:16", "text": "it does seem to be reversed and on B it. Okay. Yeah, absolutely. Now, Skinny"}, {"start": "00:41:16", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "Bob's wearing a tight fit jumpsuit. Looking good, Bob. Looking good, little Robert. He has some kind of crease on"}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "his chest. For more convenient analysis, we stitch the video together uh with"}, {"start": "00:41:29", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "frames. This is him in his entirety. Look at that."}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "He does have some type of stitching going here. Look at those long fingers,"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "man. Massive head. And somebody commented"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:51", "text": "that this particular posture is called controposto. All right."}, {"start": "00:41:51", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "Not a valuable addition to the investigation, but a welcome one nonetheless. Bet that guy's like"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:05", "text": "contropasto, which means he's basically leaning on one leg. This is a detail here that is really interesting. So,"}, {"start": "00:42:05", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "comparing the outfit from the one in the blue boys video, the previous one, the collar style is notably different. But"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "another little detail, there appears to be three dots on the alien's right shoulder, almost like a logo. So,"}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:25", "text": "according to the mysterious email correspondence, which we'll get into a little bit later, from Will, human"}, {"start": "00:42:25", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "clothes were provided, and Skinny Bob does not wear the original outfit. Here, maybe it was him"}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "in Blue Boys where he still wore the original outfit with a wider collar."}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "Directly above the alien's head is a wedge-shaped object. It appears to be a so-called stometer. Statometer commonly"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:51", "text": "found in doctor's practice. So, the second scene here shows Skinny Bob from the side as it moves and apparently"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:59", "text": "interacts with something. So, he's you can see him here kind of like reaching out right there, like reaching out for"}, {"start": "00:42:59", "end": "00:43:05", "text": "something. His shoulder moves here and he blinks like Man, I don't know about"}, {"start": "00:43:05", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "you, man, but this looks real to me. This looks like a chair back here. So, he's probably sitting and he doesn't"}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "seem to be alone in the room. So here at one point you see just a little bit right there"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "somebody maybe leaning in or somebody's arm or something and then he's given something I guess and now they're trying"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "to match whether that's like somebody's coat or whatnot and they also said"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "according to the correspondence this particular scene has been cropped meaning it's been cut maybe to obscure"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:47", "text": "or to you know, cut out the person talking to Bob there. Um, some people"}, {"start": "00:43:47", "end": "00:43:54", "text": "say that the posture with the hands and the shirt and the curvature due to"}, {"start": "00:43:54", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "the fabric tension. And I don't know how they're getting all of this from one simple little, you know, thing, but they"}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:06", "text": "said it seems like exactly like those sort of Eisenhower jackets,"}, {"start": "00:44:06", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "making me wonder, is this Eisenhower himself? I I don't know. I don't know if I buy that. So, the scene is cropped."}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "People trying to evaluate the authenticity of Skinny Bob by close inspection of his movements often claim"}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "to clearly see some bad underlying bezier curves used from digital"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "animation. There are in fact occasions where the head moves in a jerky way. So, it kind"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "of like bobbles. You kind of see them a little bit, but they don't think that"}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:41", "text": "that gives away sort of a CG origin. And here's why. The other head movements are"}, {"start": "00:44:41", "end": "00:44:47", "text": "smooth. From all the non-trivial to implemental details we see in this and other scenes, smoothing out a major head"}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:54", "text": "rotation curve would be the least difficult thing to do. And Ivan's videos have frame rate issues, both repeated"}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:44:59", "text": "and drop frames that impair motion. We don't know how aliens move is the last"}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "explanation. That's probably the best one. And here they're looking at the brow and sort of like how his eyes are"}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:12", "text": "moving and how here, look at the shadow move."}, {"start": "00:45:12", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "And then it seems like he might have possible bruises or cuts on the forehead, meaning maybe this guy was the"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:25", "text": "one that was laying down. And man, they got individually shaped"}, {"start": "00:45:25", "end": "00:45:32", "text": "heads. Like if you if you look at the heads here, like the cranial morphology"}, {"start": "00:45:32", "end": "00:45:38", "text": "shows like different slightly different variants of heads."}, {"start": "00:45:38", "end": "00:45:44", "text": "And he appears to have black fingernails. Bit of a gothic little bob."}, {"start": "00:45:44", "end": "00:45:51", "text": "Gothic Robert over here paints his nails black for some reason. Or they're just black, you know, originally. But they do"}, {"start": "00:45:51", "end": "00:45:56", "text": "appear to be black. I will give you that. They are long and gangly. Are there only"}, {"start": "00:45:56", "end": "00:46:02", "text": "four? There are only four. That's something that's come up quite a bit in abductions as well. And black"}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "fingernails are apparently a part of obscure old UFO lore from 1995."}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:15", "text": "What? Let me go ask Chad GPT. Two notable references. One from J-Rod"}, {"start": "00:46:15", "end": "00:46:21", "text": "mid90s. J-Rod with black fingernails. A drawing in the mid '90s. So JRod is a famous alien that was brought up"}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:27", "text": "numerous times by different people um that was held at S4 and then the other"}, {"start": "00:46:27", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "one is Skinny Bob. So those are the two references there. So not much to go on. I wouldn't say that's too much of a big"}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "uh revelation there, but it is interesting. Now this last part of the video is maybe one of the most bizarre"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:46", "text": "pieces of the puzzle yet. It features what looks like almost like a lens of a"}, {"start": "00:46:46", "end": "00:46:53", "text": "glasses that has symbols or shapes on it. It's pretty obscure and makes you"}, {"start": "00:46:53", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "wonder what it's for and why they would show to include it. Well, let's have a"}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:04", "text": "look. So, this is from the scene called How to Drive. And it shows something"}, {"start": "00:47:04", "end": "00:47:10", "text": "barely recognizable. Given the context title and that we've seen a UFO before,"}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "this thing could be a control device for maneuvering an alien spacecraft. A"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "closer look suggests it being some kind of glass plate with something casting a"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:28", "text": "shadow on it. Now, that shadow to me almost looks like a person or something, but the lens itself, I mean, interesting"}, {"start": "00:47:28", "end": "00:47:34", "text": "if that is how you drive a UFO. And you can see that the actual etchings or"}, {"start": "00:47:34", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "whatever those symbols are are casting shadows as well. So it's lying on a table. The camera's moving around it and"}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "you're getting these shadows on this weird thing. Those are pretty clear."}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:55", "text": "So these are like the interpretations that they're giving here. Very interesting. So here is a reference"}, {"start": "00:47:55", "end": "00:48:02", "text": "to the creme alphabet from Reticuli. supposedly a fictional creation by Judy"}, {"start": "00:48:02", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "Falscog aka James Van Grunan, but uh similar squiggly characters are seen on"}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:16", "text": "a copper plate allegedly dropped by a UFO in Edmonton, Canada in 1967."}, {"start": "00:48:16", "end": "00:48:23", "text": "Well, that's interesting. So, yeah, squiggly type writing. This also looks like Bill Herman's writing. Bill Herman"}, {"start": "00:48:23", "end": "00:48:28", "text": "was, you know, someone who alleged to have been taken by uh UFOs and aliens"}, {"start": "00:48:28", "end": "00:48:33", "text": "and abducted and also channeled them to, you know, he was he was like writing,"}, {"start": "00:48:33", "end": "00:48:39", "text": "you know, things that they were giving them symbols and then there's some embossing there. This is kind of, dude,"}, {"start": "00:48:39", "end": "00:48:46", "text": "the length people have gone through to, you know, kind of recreate this stuff is"}, {"start": "00:48:46", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "incredible. So, that concludes video number two of the Skinny Bob saga. The most haunting"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "one perhaps in my opinion. You see him blinking, which is like I don't know. There's something something uncanny"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:06", "text": "valley about him, but it's not CGI. It's it's if anything is really expensive"}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:12", "text": "animatronics, which you know, begs a question. Why? And why only there? Why"}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:19", "text": "not reveal? Why not release something that you can make money off of if you're going to spend that much on animatronics?"}, {"start": "00:49:19", "end": "00:49:25", "text": "All questions that we're going to get to in a second. But first, let's have a look at this mysterious third video that"}, {"start": "00:49:25", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "doesn't feature the being at all. It features a message and a handprint."}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:53", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:50:05", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "[Music] Heat. Heat. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:50:21", "end": "00:50:55", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:51:01", "end": "00:51:04", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:51:10", "end": "00:51:16", "text": "There we go. an ominous bizarre message that says that you are the one who"}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:22", "text": "creates the misinformation. Tom Vernon in the video trial of Skinny Bob"}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "suggests that you know this sounds a lot like something Richard Dodie would say. You know, Richard Dodie a famous I would"}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:37", "text": "say quote unquote whistleblower who also was known for seminating disinformation"}, {"start": "00:51:37", "end": "00:51:42", "text": "within the UFO community. uh that he would also get upset when people didn't believe him when he"}, {"start": "00:51:42", "end": "00:51:48", "text": "claimed he was telling the truth and saying you're looking in the wrong direction. You know, this isn't misinformation type deal. So, I thought"}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:54", "text": "that was a good point to bring up from uh Tom there. All right, here we go."}, {"start": "00:51:54", "end": "00:52:03", "text": "This is the handprint. We have the edge of the paper showing signs of wear line presumably framing the area and perhaps"}, {"start": "00:52:03", "end": "00:52:09", "text": "markings or redactions of pieces of tape. Okay. The forensic analysis it"}, {"start": "00:52:09", "end": "00:52:15", "text": "says the visual quality of the picture is pretty good suggesting that it might not originate from a scanned film frame"}, {"start": "00:52:15", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "or if it does that the original footage of this high is high quality. It's also"}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:26", "text": "possible additional paperwork was attached to the films including this photograph. So they're saying that, you"}, {"start": "00:52:26", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "know, this might not originate from a video if it does and the video is really high quality or they might have ta"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:40", "text": "attached that kind of like what they do with uh, you know, when they brief you in police offices and stuff when they uh"}, {"start": "00:52:40", "end": "00:52:45", "text": "when they put you through whatever. So they might have because it's, you know, in a government facility, they might"}, {"start": "00:52:45", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "have just, you know, I don't know, maybe they had to fingerprint him because he"}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:56", "text": "came in drunk, crashed his saucer on Earth, and they were like, \"Dude, Skinny"}, {"start": "00:52:56", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "Bob, what are you doing?\" And they processed him, you know, took his fingerprints, threw him in a drunk tank."}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "That theory has yet to be debunked. Just saying. So, the hands of Skinny Bob can"}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:13", "text": "be seen in several clips. When we try to straighten the fingers and compare it to the hand, uh, it looks like a good"}, {"start": "00:53:13", "end": "00:53:18", "text": "match. Okay, so that's pretty cool that they've kind of taken his side view and"}, {"start": "00:53:18", "end": "00:53:25", "text": "and measured it out. And that's pretty much it when it comes to that video. So, not much to go on. Just kind of him"}, {"start": "00:53:25", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "being salty. You know, the material does not belong to uh any film, video game,"}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:36", "text": "television series. We know this. No one who is out of this may prove to be the"}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:43", "text": "owner of this material. No one who is out of this can prove he has in his possession the original material. So"}, {"start": "00:53:43", "end": "00:53:51", "text": "he's saying that if the comments say, \"Hey, that's my video.\" That's probably not true. And then the"}, {"start": "00:53:51", "end": "00:53:58", "text": "revelation of further material will depend on the events and people is something he says as well. You are the"}, {"start": "00:53:58", "end": "00:54:03", "text": "ones who reject this material. Maybe you are looking in the wrong direction. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:54:03", "end": "00:54:08", "text": "sounds like someone who's kind of upset about the response. He's like, I gave you the holy grail and you guys are"}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:15", "text": "making fun of me. Well, dude, don't edit these videos so heavily next time. Internet's still going to say it's fake"}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:22", "text": "no matter what. Final video, folks. This is the final one. And uh quite a happy one, I will say."}, {"start": "00:54:22", "end": "00:54:30", "text": "This is family vacation. All right, but not your typical family vacation. No, Siri Bob. This is a vacation with gray"}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:39", "text": "aliens possibly from Zeta Reticuli. Have a look at this video. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:49", "text": "The description says family vacation tape six. From the first contact in"}, {"start": "00:54:49", "end": "00:54:55", "text": "1942, a series of diplomatic visits to discuss matters of mutual mutual concern"}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:55:02", "text": "were planned. Under the treaty 2304, these meetings would take place in"}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "secrecy. A limited number of special agents would escort the visitors and"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:13", "text": "they would only meet highranking officers. According to the document 072,"}, {"start": "00:55:13", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "at the meeting of 1961, there was an incident involving three subjects due to the violation of the"}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:26", "text": "agreement by the officers at the military base when they discovered that their arrival was being filmed with a"}, {"start": "00:55:26", "end": "00:55:32", "text": "hidden device without their consent. Under the treaty 2304, the meetings"}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:39", "text": "would be confidential and filming or taking photographs would not be allowed. After the incident, the treaty was revised. Now, there is a famous treaty"}, {"start": "00:55:39", "end": "00:55:46", "text": "out there that we refer to as the Griata Treaty. There's also another meeting that happened that I think it was"}, {"start": "00:55:46", "end": "00:55:52", "text": "astronaut Gordon Cooper who talked about a meeting. Small saucer apparently flew overhead"}, {"start": "00:55:52", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "and put down some landing gear and landed out on the dry lake bed only about 50 yards out. And these were old"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:06", "text": "pro cameramen who were used to flying in all kinds of vehicles to take all kinds of pictures. And so they picked up their"}, {"start": "00:56:06", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "cameras and started over toward it and going to get some closeups and and with"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:18", "text": "that it lifted up, put the gear back in and at a very high rate of speed disappear. Did you ever see the film?"}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:24", "text": "I saw the negatives. Yeah. And yeah, the other one was the meeting at Hollowman"}, {"start": "00:56:24", "end": "00:56:30", "text": "Air Force Base in 1965 allegedly as well, uh, where these"}, {"start": "00:56:30", "end": "00:56:39", "text": "aliens came down and and and met with high ranking officials. And apparently they were filmed without their consent."}, {"start": "00:56:39", "end": "00:56:44", "text": "And the result is uh a few of these aliens,"}, {"start": "00:56:44", "end": "00:56:50", "text": "God, they look creepy, uh, looking at the camera, talking to each other. There"}, {"start": "00:56:50", "end": "00:56:55", "text": "seems to be other people walking by and they're kind of like you you can tell they're giving you a look like, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:56:55", "end": "00:57:02", "text": "put that camera down. Let's get into the analysis here. Family"}, {"start": "00:57:02", "end": "00:57:07", "text": "vacation.\" So, this clip being the only one in color. Now, this is interesting"}, {"start": "00:57:07", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "that we have a color clip, meaning there's probably other color clips, meaning also it's probably taken at a later date. This might not be our little"}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "Bob uh in question. The clip being the only one in color and therefore presumably from a later production date"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:27", "text": "features multiple alien beings at once. They're walking alongside a wall and are"}, {"start": "00:57:27", "end": "00:57:32", "text": "accompanied by humans. The name family vacation could refer to the aliens in a"}, {"start": "00:57:32", "end": "00:57:37", "text": "sense that they came and visited as a group. Another possibility is a connection to the infamous dentist visit"}, {"start": "00:57:37", "end": "00:57:43", "text": "of Dwight D. Eisenhower on his vacation in Palm Springs of February 20th, 1954,"}, {"start": "00:57:43", "end": "00:57:48", "text": "suggesting that President Eisenhower took a family vacation, but was actually"}, {"start": "00:57:48", "end": "00:57:56", "text": "brought to meet these aliens at a meeting. It's challenging to keep track of how many entities we see in total."}, {"start": "00:57:56", "end": "00:58:03", "text": "So, it goes from two, three, four, yeah, maybe four. A few frames show the floor,"}, {"start": "00:58:03", "end": "00:58:09", "text": "and one frame is focusing on the wall, revealing the surface, uh, its its surface structure. So it's kind of looks"}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:14", "text": "like rough concrete. Now the metadata he provides associated with the video"}, {"start": "00:58:14", "end": "00:58:20", "text": "clips. So it says here it appears to be divided into seven tapes and those again"}, {"start": "00:58:20", "end": "00:58:26", "text": "are divided into cases. If a tape refers to video 8 or 8 or high eight or digital"}, {"start": "00:58:26", "end": "00:58:34", "text": "a cassettes, the tape duration is 180 minutes suggesting PL which is a European video standard. Oh,"}, {"start": "00:58:34", "end": "00:58:40", "text": "they're saying here, yeah, the feedback was like some type of emotional response. He seems to be annoyed by"}, {"start": "00:58:40", "end": "00:58:47", "text": "people speculating about the origin of the tapes. Curiously, he was the one that put the insignia of the KGB in the"}, {"start": "00:58:47", "end": "00:58:52", "text": "front of the first clip and is now claiming that there is not any reference which may link the material to any"}, {"start": "00:58:52", "end": "00:58:59", "text": "organization that is working today in the material exposed. So, he's either contradicting himself or added working"}, {"start": "00:58:59", "end": "00:59:05", "text": "today on purpose uh to indicate that at least the modern KGB is not involved."}, {"start": "00:59:05", "end": "00:59:11", "text": "And here it says, don't underestimate the human factor, assuming you know that someone's sitting on a treasure trove"}, {"start": "00:59:11", "end": "00:59:17", "text": "and deciding to slowly release it to the public, expecting overwhelming reactions and gratitude, but receiving the"}, {"start": "00:59:17", "end": "00:59:23", "text": "opposite. The person might now be upset and decides to cancel disclosure for the"}, {"start": "00:59:23", "end": "00:59:29", "text": "undeserving public. That I mean seems like something you know that would happen in today's internet culture. So"}, {"start": "00:59:29", "end": "00:59:35", "text": "now let's get to this mysterious email. So Will from Planet Under Attack claims to have contacted Ivan or at least"}, {"start": "00:59:35", "end": "00:59:42", "text": "someone affiliated with the videos via email on June 17th, 2014"}, {"start": "00:59:42", "end": "00:59:47", "text": "and received a response 2 days later. He says, \"Secondly, do you happen to know"}, {"start": "00:59:47", "end": "00:59:52", "text": "who the copyright holder is for the Skinny Bob footage? I'm also wondering who is the original leaker of the"}, {"start": "00:59:52", "end": "00:59:58", "text": "footage. Somebody told me this footage originally came through you. Any info would be great. Regardless, thanks"}, {"start": "00:59:58", "end": "01:00:05", "text": "again, my friend will. His response, we were sent that footage to release from a source. The source that sent us, the"}, {"start": "01:00:05", "end": "01:00:11", "text": "same source that sent us blank. I know it's the original source because the original version is not available to"}, {"start": "01:00:11", "end": "01:00:19", "text": "anyone. That's why you won't find it anywhere on the internet. We released the footage using several sock channels"}, {"start": "01:00:19", "end": "01:00:26", "text": "on YouTube and other sites. We did it this way to make sure the info got out even if our channel, website, etc. was"}, {"start": "01:00:26", "end": "01:00:32", "text": "terminated. Blank granted copyright as long as we did not profit uh buy it or"}, {"start": "01:00:32", "end": "01:00:37", "text": "release the full unedited version as a complete film. Only short clips"}, {"start": "01:00:37", "end": "01:00:43", "text": "were released, not the full 12 minutes of the footage, for example. Oh, wait. So, hold on. So, someone affiliated with"}, {"start": "01:00:43", "end": "01:00:48", "text": "the videos responded. Sorry about that. For example, the clip where the alien is sitting down is cropped. The full scene"}, {"start": "01:00:48", "end": "01:00:54", "text": "shows him sitting at the table looking through what looks like star maps. Government officials are also seen at"}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:00:59", "text": "the opposite side of the table in clothes of the time. The clothes it's wearing are explained at the beginning"}, {"start": "01:00:59", "end": "01:01:06", "text": "of the footage, too. Full footage shows original clothing. The jumper and trousers are not the original clothes."}, {"start": "01:01:06", "end": "01:01:12", "text": "Original clothes were taken for analysis. Human clothes were provided. Alien can be seen wearing a dull silver"}, {"start": "01:01:12", "end": "01:01:18", "text": "type ski with a utility belt and dull silver footwear. I'm hoping the source"}, {"start": "01:01:18", "end": "01:01:23", "text": "will allow us to release the full unedited footage at some point, but I cannot release without permission. In"}, {"start": "01:01:23", "end": "01:01:31", "text": "this game, mutual trust is everything. Hope this helps and you're welcome. Dang. So, purely anecdotal,"}, {"start": "01:01:31", "end": "01:01:36", "text": "unverifiable, they still decided to include the email. Totally fine. The person replying claims the original"}, {"start": "01:01:36", "end": "01:01:43", "text": "footage is 12 minutes long. In a previous description, total recording the duration of 1260 minutes is mentioned and most of the time stamps"}, {"start": "01:01:43", "end": "01:01:49", "text": "exceed 12 minutes. That's a significant discrepancy. Yeah. Okay. This is"}, {"start": "01:01:49", "end": "01:01:55", "text": "interesting. Here, there's a documentary that recreates the meeting of aliens with humans in front of a wall at Area"}, {"start": "01:01:55", "end": "01:02:01", "text": "51. It's the 1970s now, so this clip is in color. The similarity of family"}, {"start": "01:02:01", "end": "01:02:06", "text": "vacation is striking. Huh. This is also a totally different"}, {"start": "01:02:06", "end": "01:02:13", "text": "case that I was looking into. This is close to here or in 1992."}, {"start": "01:02:13", "end": "01:02:21", "text": "These creatures were just found on some type of like ski trail, like uh like a snowmmoiling trail. There were photos."}, {"start": "01:02:21", "end": "01:02:27", "text": "There's a video of the photos and of some of the people there, but no one ever claimed responsibility for these."}, {"start": "01:02:27", "end": "01:02:33", "text": "No one came up and said, \"Those are mine.\" So, there's no provenence. There's no, you know, there's nothing to"}, {"start": "01:02:33", "end": "01:02:39", "text": "go on except for the general location of these, but they do seem to match Skinny"}, {"start": "01:02:39", "end": "01:02:46", "text": "Bob, you know, definitely. Um, first. Okay, so let's talk about the arguments."}, {"start": "01:02:46", "end": "01:02:53", "text": "So many claim that the material is obviously fake, but usually fail to elaborate for why exactly that is and"}, {"start": "01:02:53", "end": "01:03:00", "text": "others find it totally authentic and base this claim on how Bob blinks. We approach the big question in a more"}, {"start": "01:03:00", "end": "01:03:05", "text": "rigorous way by compiling a list of pros and cons first. So unresolved for more"}, {"start": "01:03:05", "end": "01:03:12", "text": "than a decade. I mean now you know going on 15 years almost no credible claims of"}, {"start": "01:03:12", "end": "01:03:18", "text": "authorship. So no one's taken responsibility for this. No one has said"}, {"start": "01:03:18", "end": "01:03:26", "text": "hey that was me. I have those puppets or that was all my work. There is highly diverse content. So"}, {"start": "01:03:26", "end": "01:03:31", "text": "again we're talking about many different type. It's not just a one piece of footage, which in itself would be pretty"}, {"start": "01:03:31", "end": "01:03:37", "text": "compelling arguably, you know, even even more compelling."}, {"start": "01:03:37", "end": "01:03:44", "text": "I don't know. But it's interesting that so many different varying clips of color of from the sky"}, {"start": "01:03:44", "end": "01:03:51", "text": "from from from a car like I mean all these different clips. Very interesting. No commercial use despite production"}, {"start": "01:03:51", "end": "01:03:56", "text": "cost. So assuming that this cost a lot of money to recreate, whether it's animatronics, whether it's costumes, or"}, {"start": "01:03:56", "end": "01:04:03", "text": "whether it's CGI, did cost money. At some point, it cost somebody a lot of time, and time is money, but no"}, {"start": "01:04:03", "end": "01:04:09", "text": "commercial use. This was never there were never any ads on these videos. Unless this guy is selling like Skinny"}, {"start": "01:04:09", "end": "01:04:17", "text": "Bob, you know, dolls on Etsy, I don't know how he's making money. The underlying footage essentially flawless."}, {"start": "01:04:17", "end": "01:04:22", "text": "So the footage itself, not the edited, you know, stuff that's put over as a"}, {"start": "01:04:22", "end": "01:04:28", "text": "filter, but the stuff that the core footage is flawless quality preventing consensus among experts about hoaxing"}, {"start": "01:04:28", "end": "01:04:35", "text": "techniques. Yep. Okay. Hoaxer would have taken an unnecessary risk by showing a potential recognizable house and aerial"}, {"start": "01:04:35", "end": "01:04:40", "text": "view. Why would he risk showing that? There's a map essentially that he shows."}, {"start": "01:04:40", "end": "01:04:47", "text": "When he shows the aerial viewer, he shows the house. he would risk being called out as a hoaxer if that footage"}, {"start": "01:04:47", "end": "01:04:54", "text": "exists out there or if that you know person that living there comes out and says no you know this is my house and"}, {"start": "01:04:54", "end": "01:05:01", "text": "that was my footage I don't know irrelevant yet costly details presented in a barely recognizable way the table"}, {"start": "01:05:01", "end": "01:05:08", "text": "behind the operation that had a cloth on it or the UFO and"}, {"start": "01:05:08", "end": "01:05:13", "text": "the smoke and then the smoke billowing casting a shadow You barely recognize"}, {"start": "01:05:13", "end": "01:05:19", "text": "that unless you really zoomed in and slowed it down. So yeah, that seems a little odd that you would go through"}, {"start": "01:05:19", "end": "01:05:26", "text": "great lengths to have these tiny little details. Not impossible, just unlikely."}, {"start": "01:05:26", "end": "01:05:31", "text": "And not a single unresolved hoax contender of comparable quality. Meaning"}, {"start": "01:05:31", "end": "01:05:38", "text": "there has not been any other unresolved footage that meets this quality. Think"}, {"start": "01:05:38", "end": "01:05:46", "text": "about it. There's nothing on the internet that meets this inequality that is unresolved. That alone should be"}, {"start": "01:05:46", "end": "01:05:51", "text": "caused for pause. Now, let's go to the cons. Occasionally jerky movements of"}, {"start": "01:05:51", "end": "01:05:58", "text": "Skinny Bob. So, as we talked about, there's like these glitchy things, although we also said that that could be due to drop frames and we don't know how"}, {"start": "01:05:58", "end": "01:06:04", "text": "aliens move. Stereotypical presentation of UFO artifacts with alien symbols."}, {"start": "01:06:04", "end": "01:06:10", "text": "Again, that could be because that's what it is. I mean, it seems to be that way with the Aztec crash. It seems to be"}, {"start": "01:06:10", "end": "01:06:17", "text": "that way with many other sightings and encounters and abductions. Extremely short and shaky clips, signs of"}, {"start": "01:06:17", "end": "01:06:22", "text": "intentional eye obiscation, limiting hoaxing efforts. That I will concur"}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:30", "text": "with. I think that that is definitely um you know if you were trying to obuscate"}, {"start": "01:06:30", "end": "01:06:35", "text": "whatever someone's looking at you would 100% make it shaky you know add effects"}, {"start": "01:06:35", "end": "01:06:40", "text": "over it but it's so wild that the effects and the shakiness seem so"}, {"start": "01:06:40", "end": "01:06:45", "text": "blatant like blatantly overlaid"}, {"start": "01:06:45", "end": "01:06:50", "text": "compared to the insane amount of effort that went into creating the animatronics"}, {"start": "01:06:50", "end": "01:06:57", "text": "or makeup or whatever that may Convenient placement of the alien body next to the UFO looking staged. Skinny"}, {"start": "01:06:57", "end": "01:07:04", "text": "Bob's physique being suspiciously compatible to a human child. I don't know. If I saw a human child with that"}, {"start": "01:07:04", "end": "01:07:11", "text": "physique, I would probably drop kick them because I would be like, \"You're an alien in disguise.\" Both plot and"}, {"start": "01:07:11", "end": "01:07:16", "text": "aesthetic similarities to a documentary aired 14 years earlier. That's this"}, {"start": "01:07:16", "end": "01:07:22", "text": "documentary that they're showing. Yep. That I mean, true."}, {"start": "01:07:22", "end": "01:07:28", "text": "It's saying that uh the plot is similar to this movie that came out 14 years"}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:35", "text": "prior. It had alien symbolism, human interrogator, the strange symbols on the"}, {"start": "01:07:35", "end": "01:07:41", "text": "how to drive thing, uh the inspection of the alien, somebody filming like this,"}, {"start": "01:07:41", "end": "01:07:46", "text": "maybe uh the autopsy scene, and then obviously the uh the meeting here. But"}, {"start": "01:07:46", "end": "01:07:53", "text": "again, you know, maybe that's based on real stuff. The best way to cover it up"}, {"start": "01:07:53", "end": "01:07:58", "text": "is to lean into it, I think. Then we have the potential overestimation of production costs. Meaning like what if"}, {"start": "01:07:58", "end": "01:08:04", "text": "this person made everything using chicken skin and bread, right? And then we're we're just overestimating, oh,"}, {"start": "01:08:04", "end": "01:08:11", "text": "this doesn't actually cost $100,000. This cost 50 bucks in a trip to Walmart or whatever. And then the possible"}, {"start": "01:08:11", "end": "01:08:16", "text": "fallacy of mistaking circumstantial evidence for planned details. Okay?"}, {"start": "01:08:16", "end": "01:08:23", "text": "meaning the convenient placement of things and and all of Okay. Yeah, I would agree with that. So, here are the"}, {"start": "01:08:23", "end": "01:08:30", "text": "current theories. There's a leak theory where parts of the footage show a professional environment autopsy room, examination room with a stometer,"}, {"start": "01:08:30", "end": "01:08:36", "text": "aircraft, suggesting that it's not a collection of amateur home video clips,"}, {"start": "01:08:36", "end": "01:08:41", "text": "but rather a documentation produced by a government agency branch or military or"}, {"start": "01:08:41", "end": "01:08:48", "text": "corporation. Um, it could have found its way to the internet by a whistleblower with legitimate access leaking. It could have"}, {"start": "01:08:48", "end": "01:08:54", "text": "been stolen like by the leak uh in 2011. And the other theory here is that it's a"}, {"start": "01:08:54", "end": "01:09:01", "text": "hoax. Here's someone that used the same tactics and techniques to create what seems to be like a floating UFO using"}, {"start": "01:09:01", "end": "01:09:07", "text": "the same lines and driving a car. But the general consensus is that multiple"}, {"start": "01:09:07", "end": "01:09:13", "text": "people, multiple techniques, and possibly, but not necessarily, a lot of money was involved. And it's unlikely"}, {"start": "01:09:13", "end": "01:09:19", "text": "for a single person to pull this off due to the complexity and variety of these scenes, which I agree with. There's a"}, {"start": "01:09:19", "end": "01:09:25", "text": "lot going on here for one person to do all that. But hey, I'm alone kind of been doing all this except for this"}, {"start": "01:09:25", "end": "01:09:30", "text": "video. This video is actually being edited by something else. Shout out Lee editing"}, {"start": "01:09:30", "end": "01:09:37", "text": "the first full Area 52 video. But normally I'm a oneman team and I know what you can get away with by yourself."}, {"start": "01:09:37", "end": "01:09:44", "text": "So it's actually quite surprising. Claims frequently made by individuals about the clips being easy to reproduce remain to be demonstrated. So, we"}, {"start": "01:09:44", "end": "01:09:50", "text": "disagree, but encourage people that have done this that have the time, skill, and motivation to give it a try. They have"}, {"start": "01:09:50", "end": "01:09:56", "text": "an email where you can submit the results. Just don't forget about the 71% of content beside the skinny Bob"}, {"start": "01:09:56", "end": "01:10:02", "text": "close-ups, right? So, you can do one of these things maybe like this person"}, {"start": "01:10:02", "end": "01:10:10", "text": "here, like the tin bird using the Boris effects. uh you know it even that doesn't look"}, {"start": "01:10:10", "end": "01:10:17", "text": "too real like there's something unnatural about it but it's a good effort. So people saying puppeteering,"}, {"start": "01:10:17", "end": "01:10:23", "text": "animatronics, costumes, computer graphics, motion tracking, stop motion, all of these things would have had to be"}, {"start": "01:10:23", "end": "01:10:31", "text": "used at some point to create this effect. And here if you were to use a"}, {"start": "01:10:31", "end": "01:10:37", "text": "costume, I mean the the hands wouldn't match up. You can see that here. the face would actually match up. That would"}, {"start": "01:10:37", "end": "01:10:42", "text": "be a decent costume for Halloween. I tell you that. Now, there is something"}, {"start": "01:10:42", "end": "01:10:48", "text": "also that should be discussed, and that is this article written by Noah Radic in"}, {"start": "01:10:48", "end": "01:10:53", "text": "July of 2024 says, \"A Skinny Bob is not CGI, and by applying a technique known"}, {"start": "01:10:53", "end": "01:10:59", "text": "as ELA, which stands for error level analysis.\""}, {"start": "01:10:59", "end": "01:11:05", "text": "Okay, error level analysis is a method used to check for markers of CGI manipulation. It involves saving images"}, {"start": "01:11:05", "end": "01:11:10", "text": "or video frames at different levels of compression and mapping the differences."}, {"start": "01:11:10", "end": "01:11:16", "text": "This is able to show areas that were edited or inserted in post such as a face swapping, objects added, CGI"}, {"start": "01:11:16", "end": "01:11:22", "text": "effects, etc. So by doing this ELA technique, you'll be able to see now if"}, {"start": "01:11:22", "end": "01:11:29", "text": "you do the ELA technique onto a scene from Shrek, as you see here, clear"}, {"start": "01:11:29", "end": "01:11:36", "text": "outlines are given, right? Where these have been added in artificially into this scene. Skinny Bob, however, as you"}, {"start": "01:11:36", "end": "01:11:42", "text": "can see, not enough to indicate a clear outline like for Shrek or other CGI."}, {"start": "01:11:42", "end": "01:11:48", "text": "Other Skinny Bob can be examined frame by frame. this frame of skinny Bob during an interview with his inlaid eyes"}, {"start": "01:11:48", "end": "01:11:56", "text": "and broad and deep head. He has a small mouth and small nose, which is typical of traditional gray. The ELA has some"}, {"start": "01:11:56", "end": "01:12:02", "text": "slight outlines, but not enough to prove it was modified. Only a part of his body"}, {"start": "01:12:02", "end": "01:12:10", "text": "is outlined with some noise and not the rest. It's indicative that Skinny Bob has not been modified at all and no"}, {"start": "01:12:10", "end": "01:12:15", "text": "processing has been done. if he were CGI, he'd have to be created in one go"}, {"start": "01:12:15", "end": "01:12:20", "text": "and not modified at all, which is not usually how most CGI is created. One"}, {"start": "01:12:20", "end": "01:12:26", "text": "conclusion that I don't agree with in the original analysis is that there was post-processing done to the videos. I"}, {"start": "01:12:26", "end": "01:12:32", "text": "don't see evidence for that. It should show up under ELA unless it was intentionally obscured. A program like"}, {"start": "01:12:32", "end": "01:12:37", "text": "After Effects or Photoshop would save the file at a different compression level, which would show up usually on"}, {"start": "01:12:37", "end": "01:12:44", "text": "the ELA. One problem with this is the second Skinny Bob was saved as PNG rather than JPEG which is not"}, {"start": "01:12:44", "end": "01:12:50", "text": "compressed. However, it seems there was no apparent serious manipulation in the JPEG of Skinny Bob one either. The"}, {"start": "01:12:50", "end": "01:12:57", "text": "original was likely saved in compressed video format like meg. So it would have compression artifacts. So again noise"}, {"start": "01:12:57", "end": "01:13:04", "text": "pattern on CGI image, noise pattern on alien image. There's no they don't"}, {"start": "01:13:04", "end": "01:13:10", "text": "match. Irregular patterns of noise indicative of camera noise rather than structured"}, {"start": "01:13:10", "end": "01:13:15", "text": "noise. Folks, are we looking at a real alien here? It's kind of insane. It's"}, {"start": "01:13:15", "end": "01:13:22", "text": "kind of intense that that's what we might be dealing with. At least one of the types. There are a lot of"}, {"start": "01:13:22", "end": "01:13:28", "text": "connections to be made with skinny Bob. Especially if you look at Psalm 1 or the"}, {"start": "01:13:28", "end": "01:13:33", "text": "special operations manual from Majestic 12. They talked about Eben type one and"}, {"start": "01:13:33", "end": "01:13:38", "text": "even type two. This clearly being more of a type two situation here. Uh we can"}, {"start": "01:13:38", "end": "01:13:43", "text": "look at the type two description. Actually, give me a second. This is the"}, {"start": "01:13:43", "end": "01:13:50", "text": "EBE type 2 extraterrestrial biological entity as described by the special"}, {"start": "01:13:50", "end": "01:13:55", "text": "operations manual for MJ12 that was apparently, you know, leaked to Dom"}, {"start": "01:13:55", "end": "01:14:02", "text": "Berliner in 94, I believe. No, prior to that. Would have been 94. I"}, {"start": "01:14:02", "end": "01:14:09", "text": "don't know. Regardless the size and build, these entities were small, standing between 3' 5 in and 4'2 in."}, {"start": "01:14:09", "end": "01:14:16", "text": "This seems to check. Head and skull, they have proportionally large skulls, much larger and longer than those of"}, {"start": "01:14:16", "end": "01:14:23", "text": "either humans or EB type 1. The skull features an extreme peak extending above the top of the head. Now, they did show"}, {"start": "01:14:23", "end": "01:14:28", "text": "uh tiny little bumps there. The eyes are very large and slanted, almost reach the"}, {"start": "01:14:28", "end": "01:14:35", "text": "side of the head. The pupils are completely black with no visible whites. There is no expressiveness in the face."}, {"start": "01:14:35", "end": "01:14:40", "text": "Nose is minimal, just two small slits. Now, this did seem to have a bit of a"}, {"start": "01:14:40", "end": "01:14:46", "text": "bigger nose here. Uh, and there's no external ear structure visible. Skin and appearance. The skin is described as"}, {"start": "01:14:46", "end": "01:14:53", "text": "pale blue gray, which we can't really confirm. And, uh, the limbs are longer"}, {"start": "01:14:53", "end": "01:14:59", "text": "relative to the legs. The arms are longer relative to the legs. hands possess three long tapered fingers plus"}, {"start": "01:14:59", "end": "01:15:05", "text": "an opposable thumb almost as long as the toes. Notably, the middle finger is more"}, {"start": "01:15:05", "end": "01:15:10", "text": "robust but not as long as the index finger. Okay, legs and feet. The legs"}, {"start": "01:15:10", "end": "01:15:17", "text": "are small and slender and the feet have four toes joined by webbing. That does sound a lot like the type twos, which"}, {"start": "01:15:17", "end": "01:15:24", "text": "would make sense if you know whatever was in the MJ12 documents was accurate and this was real. That's kind of what"}, {"start": "01:15:24", "end": "01:15:31", "text": "this would look like. this situation here. So folks, I hope you enjoyed this video. That concludes our review of the"}, {"start": "01:15:31", "end": "01:15:36", "text": "Skinny Bob videos 1 2 3 and four posted by Ivan1035."}, {"start": "01:15:36", "end": "01:15:42", "text": "Ivan, if you're out there, if you're watching this, I would love to talk to you even in private. Reach out to me,"}, {"start": "01:15:42", "end": "01:15:49", "text": "find a way. I look forward to the day that this guy posts one more video, gives us anything, any little piece of"}, {"start": "01:15:49", "end": "01:15:55", "text": "the puzzle at all, or just tells us that, hey, is a big joke, is a big farce, is a really expensive hoax that I"}, {"start": "01:15:55", "end": "01:16:00", "text": "never took credit for. What do you guys think? Tell me what you think, and if"}, {"start": "01:16:00", "end": "01:16:06", "text": "your mindset maybe shifted slightly from the beginning of this investigation to"}, {"start": "01:16:06", "end": "01:16:12", "text": "the end of it. Do you find yourself now more convinced or less convinced that these videos are authentic?"}, {"start": "01:16:12", "end": "01:16:19", "text": "Do you think Skinny Bob is real? Do you think aliens are real, but the Skinny Bob video is fake? I would love to hear"}, {"start": "01:16:19", "end": "01:16:25", "text": "your interpretations of all this information. And clearly, we skimmed through a lot of it. If you want to go"}, {"start": "01:16:25", "end": "01:16:32", "text": "and have a look for yourself, go to skinnyob.info. A lot of pertinent information on that website. Plus, there are tons of videos"}, {"start": "01:16:32", "end": "01:16:37", "text": "out there looking at this, analyzing it forensically. And if there's anything"}, {"start": "01:16:37", "end": "01:16:43", "text": "that I missed or if there's a geographical pin that you might have come across, please let me know. Reach"}, {"start": "01:16:43", "end": "01:16:50", "text": "out, hit us up in the Discord. We'll be hanging out there. I appreciate you guys watching and thank you for entertaining"}, {"start": "01:16:50", "end": "01:16:56", "text": "this much different style of video. This might be something that we bring back in"}, {"start": "01:16:56", "end": "01:17:02", "text": "the future depending on the reaction we get from you guys. So, every like is appreciated. Thank you so much for"}, {"start": "01:17:02", "end": "01:17:07", "text": "watching. We'll see you on the next video. Peace and love."}, {"start": "01:17:10", "end": "01:17:22", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "Sphere network is an AI based defense network that is wrapped around the planet and it's been here for pretty"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "much forever. It uses three layers of sphere architecture and it's responsible for many paranormal effects including"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "hold activity and you can see the the type 1 B formation right here and this is the type two. Okay. And they're illuminated because"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "they're powered up. They're they're ready to go. They're ready to they're ready to what? What what exactly is go? Fire a directed"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "energy weapon possibly. Yeah. Oh my god. And now it blew up and it's"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "in outer space and it's no longer there. So this was taken over Florida and again you can see the type two and the type"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "one V formation right there. The type ones here and the type two is taken off a cruise ship. This was over Barcelona"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "and then here you've got multiple examples of the same thing all over the all over the world all different times. They're always in this formation."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "Always in the same formations. Do you speculate that the United States government or at least some faction of it is completely aware of this system?"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "A friend of mine was in 30 years drive. He was laying on the sofa. He said, \"Uh, there's a big flash.\" And, uh, he opened"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "his eyes and he saw a woman standing looking over him and she was in uniform. We we did a search on the uniform and it"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "was Space Force. So, what does that mean? Wait, hold on. What does that mean? I think Space Force is well aware of it and I think that they probably work in"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "tandem with them. We were filming in this tunnel. Some of"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "the sensors went off. We saw something like a figure, what looks to be like a large gray kind of guy with big teardrop"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "eyes. and he walks up to walks up to the strobe, looks down, looks at us and"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "carries on walking. The problem is is that because we live on the surface and we produce all these high energy emissions that are going into space. We we are announcing where"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "we are exactly to trillions and trillions of solar systems with trillions and trillions of planets and"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "all it takes is one of them to say, \"Oh, you have something we want. The odds are against us.\" The dark forest theory."}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "Hi, Patrick from Germany here. In July 2013 in Germany near the French border,"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "um around 10:30 at night, my partner and I uh saw a massive pitch black"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "triangular craft that just descended uh and stopped just 10 m or 30 ft above us."}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "It had three bright lights, made no sound whatsoever, and seemed to paralyze"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "us. We couldn't move or react. And uh the triangle then after performing a"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "sharp zigzag movement shot off into the sky just leaving streaks of light behind. It was so fast. We couldn't"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "believe it. We felt confused almost like time had war. That mly moment completely"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "changed me uh forever. Before I was a strict atheist and now I just know that"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "there's more out there. Just a quick reminder, guys, don't forget to check out our brand new Area"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "52 TE's. These classic TE's feature the Area 52 logo embroidered on the front"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "and printed on the back. They're super comfy. Check them out. Area 52.shop."}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "Ladies and gentlemen, today I would like to welcome to the skiff Patrick Jackson, author of the Sphere Network. Now, I was"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "really interested in the work that he's been doing because, as some of you know"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "at home, I've also myself been sort of toying with this hypothesis of a network"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "that is interacting with us. And it seems like you've done a lot of work"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "into this little network or this large network I should say. And I'm looking forward to discussing"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "that with you today. Welcome, Patrick. Thank you very much for having me. Absolutely. Now, you flew in from the UK."}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "Yes. You're in you're in Cambridge. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So, thank you for making the trip out here. I hope it was uh it was"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "seamless. I know it was a long trip. It was a long one, but it was fun. So Patrick, uh, we're going to be"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "looking through at first. Now, just for the audience at home, you stressed the"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "importance of running me through this slideshow prior to our conversation. So, we're going to have a conversation."}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "We're going to delve into, you know, hypotheticals and all sorts of like fun stuff. But prior to that, you thought"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "you thought it was really important that I and the audience sit through a quick little um slideshow letting us know"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "exactly technically what exactly it is we're dealing with. But prior to getting into this, can you just give us like an"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "oversight of what the sphere network is? Uh well, the network is an AI based um"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "uh defense network that is wrapped around the planet. Uh, and it's been here for pretty much forever. Um, it"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "uses three layers of uh, sphere architecture. Um, is controlled from the"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "ground up. Um, and it's responsible for many paranormal effects including polygeist activity."}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "Interesting. Um, that's where my interest started. Um, was actually trying to reverse"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "engineer what polygeists were. Um, I come from a background of IT and databases and reverse engineering. Um,"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "and I, you know, I've always been, like yourself, a very big skeptic of stuff. So, I I decided to hire out my the most"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "aggressive polyguist house in the UK just to see if I could see anything. And, um, I was there for 4 days and it"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "was the longest four days of my life. And, uh, because within 15 minutes of being in the place, crazy stuff started"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "happening. Really? Yeah. Um, you documented this? Oh, yeah. It's all on tape. Everything's all documented. And uh, yeah. And but"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "what I went in there specifically for was to start to see if I could notice any patterns. Um because D East Drive is"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "a very small building. Yeah. Um so it's very easy to start spotting the patterns compared to say a big"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "building like a castle, right? Because you just wouldn't be able to it's it's so large. You wouldn't be able to see anything going on. There be"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "noises all over the place, right? But in 30 drivers because it's so small, um it's actually very"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "straightforward to to reverse engineer what's going on there because it's it's pretty much the same patterns we keep"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "reoccurring. Now you say 30 East Drive. Uh for those uh in the audience maybe like myself who"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "aren't familiar, this is a haunted house, a famous haunted house in the UK. Yeah. It's actually voted one of the"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "most aggressive polygists in the UK. Um in fact, the police don't even go in there really."}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "Yeah. So, um, over the and it's been active for going on I think 30 40 years."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "Um, and it's had an army of priests go in there. It's had investigators going there. It's had everything and it's"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "still there and it still does does all the same things it was like a murder or something. Um, well, I mean, they try they try and"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "tie it to a priest who died there or something going back 40 years, but but you have another idea of what this"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "could be. Well, the fact is that in in England, UK specifically is that you"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "you'll be lucky to find a bit of ground where someone didn't die, you know, because of our history and all"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "that. So, you know, you could take any bit of land and say, \"Oh, someone died there 400 years ago, you know, but what what these"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "um invest what the mainstream paranormal investigators do is like a building would become active and then all they do"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "is they just hit the history books.\" Mhm. Because they just assume it's dead people. Um, and then they find, oh,"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "there's a murder there 30, 40 years ago. They've come back to haunt it, and that's really it. And they they roll"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "with it, you know. Um, and that's how that's how the mainstream deals with it. But my approach was very different. I I just"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "went in there as a blank sheet and just start just to see what I would find. Um, because I the beh the the what I"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "noticed very first was the behavior patterns in these in this building specifically are not human behavior"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "patterns. You know, humans have a very distinct behavior pattern. They're quite sociable creatures. Even even the bad"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "ones, you know, even the ones in jail, they're very they're still sociable creatures and and they want to communicate, you know, and the fact is"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "that is that everyone's like everyone's has that auntie who talks too much, you"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "know, and and tells the world everything. So if if she died and she could get talk back to you somehow, she'll be telling"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "the world, \"Oh, it's awesome here.\" You know what I mean? You know, um she wouldn't just be moving stuff around."}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "No. And what you get in polyguy specifically is you get um banging, scratching, objects thrown, things"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "catching fire, cupboards opening, closing. That's right. Yeah. You get um you get strange electrical effects, you get"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "headaches, you get nausea, you pass out. Very all very distinctive patterns. Yeah. Um and this replicates all around"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "the world. Yeah. And and for those wondering where a good example of this might be, you"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "don't have to look any further than what's happening on Skinwalker Ranch really and the history thereof. Yeah, you know, you've got a large vast"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "history of poltergeist activity there. But not only that, just like you said, you've got people falling ill to what"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "seems like some type of radio sickness. Correct. Yeah. Because it's the same thing all over the world. It's the same"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "it's the same system all over the world. Okay. So, I mean, this is really interesting. So all of a sudden we go"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "from, you know, I I didn't expect this turn, I'll be honest, like when we started discussing this to go from"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "poltergeist activity, you know, I can jump from that to aliens pretty quickly,"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "like myself, I can go, no, it's interdimensional beings. But going from what we're going to be looking at now in"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "a second is we're going from poltergeist activity to AI. Yeah. I did not expect that leap. Can you talk"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "us a little bit uh through that? Uh yeah, I just have to get you to this slide here. So,"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "we're going to be pulling these slides up as well in post so that you guys can follow along. So, um just to give an example, this"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "here is 30 yeast drive. Um and you can see it's it's a normal building, brick building, and then you got this bit"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "attached to the side of it. And this bit here is the most important part. That's the haunted part. Uh that's the where the main events"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "occur like the banging occurs. But actually, all the activity occurs on the top floors here. But this is where the"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "actual banging occurs down here. So, if you This is actually the staircase inside the building. And And"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "if you get your uh meters out and if you walk up these stairs right here. Mhm. Um you'll feel dizzy every time you walk"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "past these steps, you feel dizzy. And um it's not it's like it's like a sudden dizziness. That's that's the way you"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "describe it. But also, if you have like your EMF detectors and other detectors and stuff, if you put it put it at the"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "top here, you'll get a very high electrical emissions. Like literally off the scale. It's very high energy. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "And you have footage of that and and documents. I've got it all all on my YouTube and and X and stuff. It's all"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "documents. Interesting. So, um, even if you turn all the power off in the house, it's still there."}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "Electromagnetic fields. Yeah. Yeah. And you can say, okay, that's that's very strange. You shouldn't be there."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "Is that like could that be like cell phones? Could that be like No. No. Because you're I'm the only one in there,"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "right? Or everybody else is outside or something. And these this this energy source is very pacific. And you you can"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "actually it moves around. So you can you can you can put your detector there, it will go down and you put it up there and it goes up again."}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "Interesting. So it's like a it's a it's a high energy source that's moving around. Um and uh so this is the same staircase"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "right here. And what people are seeing are these um like black masses uh moving around. And this is actually very"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "common. People see this a lot. Uh they mostly see it in basements in Essics. Uh and it looks like a black"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "mass that moves really fast. It's like it'd be there and then it goes like that real quick. It's like instant"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "exhilaration. It can move without weight or resistance and it moves at a set rate of speed. Uh and it moves in a digital"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "way. So it's not like speeding up. It just goes like that very very fast."}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "So I got hold of this image um here and this is uh the black mass as it goes"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "past and what you see this is like a filtered image just to bring out the detail and you have a lot of noise all"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "up here. But then right in the middle here, just the top center, you see what looks to be a a small bowl or sphere."}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "Um, and that kind of caught my interest because that was like, well, that's an artificial shape in noise. You know,"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "that's from an IT point of view, that's like, right, a round object is is would be artificial. That's right."}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "Right. Digital object might be a little bit more uh jagged. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, this is"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "another image I got hold of. And this here is again filtered image and what comes out is a small silver ball. about"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "the size of a baseball and it's hovering off the ground. And when I saw this, I was in my what my process was. I I"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "had it all filmed and and then I went uh took it off my workplace and then I'd start finish work at like 5:30 and I"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "would work from 5:30 to 7:30 every night for like 3 months to try and find something in the noise, you know, to"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "something I could start just looking through footage just looking. I was obsessed with it prior to AI really being Oh, yeah. This is before before all"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "that. a lot easier today. Yeah. And um so I was really obsessed with it. I would like wake up in the"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "morning, 5 in the morning, and it would be just on my head. It was like a machine in my head. Um I explain it to people and they think, you know, it's"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "it's crazy, but it's like I it's like I have a machine in my head that goes through all these different models. Like"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "you can take all these data points and you can it it can model all these different ideas and stuff and"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "essentially a computer and um I can't do it with anything else. I can't do it with maths or anything,"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "but I can do it with with this for some reason. And um so anyway uh I finally"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "saw this and when I saw it it was like all the jigsaw puzzles parts all just clicked together."}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "So prior to this you didn't have uh working theory. I had a couple but they all fell through"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "very quick. I see. And and and so yeah the whole sphere network theory wasn't something you were looking for. No."}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "Right. Okay. Yeah, I think that's an important distinction here because going into something like this having, you know, some bias could could definitely"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "you could see how, okay, maybe that's a sphere, maybe that's this, maybe that's that. I had this other theory uh which I"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "worked on for a while, but it fell through within 15 minutes. I I had a um"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "a theory called um quantum mirroring. That was it. And uh what it was was I I"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "kind of thought well okay well if maybe there's a way that we're like in a like"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "a parallel or the timelines can cross something like that and then you see projections from the past."}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "Sure. And I was thinking well what can do valid idea I think. Yeah. And I thought well what can do that you"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "know well gravity is gravity itself is um connected to time. Maybe the"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "alignments of the planets could somehow bend the timeline to cross over and then you see shadows of the past. Something"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "like that. And for a while I thought that's a pretty valid one. That might work. Also sounds like astrology."}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. So I thought well because there's a there's also a degree of clockwork when it comes to these paranormal stuff. So I thought well"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "stars are clockwork because they obviously they obviously they have a certain pattern and movement and uh and"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "a timing. So maybe the the changing in changes in the the gravitational effects"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "of the planets can affect the timeline which can cause a blur kind of like the moon affects the tide"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "something. Yeah. But I more I thought about it the the more it kind of fell to pieces because if that was the case it"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "wouldn't just be happening in one location it would be happening everywhere. Good point. Okay. You know what I mean? So everyone be"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "seeing the same thing all over the planet. Um, and then when I was in 30 East Drive, um, on my first night, I was"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "just upstairs and I just said, \"Is anyone here?\" You know, and the door banged eight times and I was like,"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "\"Well, there's no one downstairs.\" And I got that on tape as well and there's no one there and it's a sealed door and no"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "one can get there. And it was very distinct. Huh. And I'm thinking to myself, okay, well,"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "that that broke that theory. Yeah. So that I just started from scratch again. I mean, as as a magician and an"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "entertainer, the first thing that I think is there's someone down there. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or there's some sort of mechanics"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "or technology down there. Exactly. And and so was there any way of ruling that out? Oh, yeah. You can just go in there. It's"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "just like an empty concrete room. Yeah. Uh and the door and that's it. It's all sealed. There's nothing there. There's"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "no there's no um it's not like there's air going in and causing a suction or anything like that."}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "It's a it's a just a a room. Yeah. We're we're assuming that this is paranormal, though. There is like a part"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "of me has to remain a little skeptical for that because if this is a famous"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "haunted hub then you know rightfully there would be a reason to attract you"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "know tourism to it as well. Am I incorrect? Well originally it was a private house right? Um but then after this the cuz this has"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "been haunted 30 40 years. Um and uh if yeah in the beginning it was it was a"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "private house but then eventually the people who owned it sold it to uh who"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "guy who owns it now guy called Bill. Um and obviously no one wants to buy it because it's it was"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "but Bill probably runs tours and stuff like he like for me that's like always got to be up there as well. Like I mean"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "there is obviously that doesn't negate what we're seeing here, but it does uh it should be added into the equation."}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "Oh, exactly. Yeah. Um and I I would I would think the same thing if I hadn't seen it before, but again, I I just went"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "in there like a clear kind of like a like an unbiased. Let's just go see what I find. And this this is what this is"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "what I found. So yeah, we we spotted this uh this small silver ball hovering off the ground. And when I saw that, it was"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "like, okay, Eureka. In fact, when I when I been working so long at this, when I"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "saw it, I actually started shaking. It was like um some sort of shock hit me and I was like, \"Oh, fuck.\""}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "Ontologically. Yeah. Because it completely changes or remaps your brain. And I was like, \"Oh my god.\" And I actually um"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "went down I had to go down the pub and just uh drink myself down a pint down quite a few pints and and sort of process it."}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "And I was to sit there like this just like staring into space for four or five hours afterwards because it all"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "started clicking into into place. So what you have really is uh in in this case you have a it's basically a small"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "a video uh no this is a still shot but there are videos of of this uh somewhere."}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "So um yeah let me just move to another shot. This is a again four pictures of the same thing. And in this case here"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "you see it flying towards the door because it's got a trail behind it. Mhm. This trail has also been replicated"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "over Skinwalker on their IR cameras. They have like a distinctive trail um"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "going going by. It's like a lensing effect as they go by. And then this one here then goes here, then it ducks back"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "and then it it sits there for a little while. Yeah, it's wild. That's clearly, you know, there's clearly something there."}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "Yeah, it's not just like a technical error on behalf of the camera. There's actually some type of physical or non-physical"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "object or light source running through. That's right. Yeah. That's interesting. And then you got examples from 1903"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "where they're seeing like these uh glowing spheres entering the home, flying through homes. That's right. Um"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "and back then, you know, or even today they say or ball lightning, you know, but we'll get into that later because it's not bull lightning."}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "I mean, even ball lightning is inexplicable. So, yeah. Um so these objects, what they can"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "do is a thing called quantum tunneling, which means that they can pass through solid objects. Um, and it's amazing to"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "watch cuz I I've been in 30 drive where we got the camera set up and you see these little balls like on the IR camera"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "in the upstairs room and they'll fly through the ceiling into the lounge, do a couple of curls, then go up again."}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "Uh, so it's it's it's clearly intelligent uh flight control. It's not like just random dust blowing around."}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "Um, but that's what that's what this is a depiction of what people were seeing in 1903. So this here is um a few"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "examples. So this was taken in the US. So this was taken in the English field and this was taken in 30 east drive. And"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "you can see it's the same little ball. Little light orange light ball. Yeah. The only difference is in this state"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "here it's like in a low power state where all you see is like a silver ball. Well, and here as well,"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "but in this one here you see it's glowing. Uh and this is where people get confused where saying it's plasma orbs or silver"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "spheres or different things, but they're not. They're the same thing. What it is is that when these things are powered up"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "uh or how it logically maps out is when these things are powered up they're producing a high energy field around them which is um energizing the gas"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "molecules uh in the in the in the environment in surrounding them which then produces a glow. It's it's the same"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "um process as uh lightning in electric storms. The only difference is in"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "electric storms you have a a buildup of charge. You see a big lightning strike and then it powers down again. You know,"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "cuz the in nature nothing is constant. It's a it's in a constant state of flux. But in this case, you see just a"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "constant ball of light, which means the power source is artificial."}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "So you got to ask yourself, okay, so why why are these small spheres on in buildings themselves? Why why are they"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "there? Sure. Why would they be performing physical actions to move people away? And why are"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "people getting physically affected? So there's three things that um these a drone would need to use regardless of"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "how advanced the technology is. One, it needs to send and receive signals. Uh two, it needs a network and three, it"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "needs AI. Uh so the this is also key to the repetitive actions as well because"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "the door is a repetitive action. It keeps on looping. It's the same effect. So what you have is an AI process, a"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "process that's occurring to execute action and it works. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "So the question is if okay so if if these um if these are drones I mean have has any like signals been received or or"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "or anything and the answer is yes. So what I done was I managed to sample the"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "uh signals that are coming from these spheres um at the time inside the building and uh this is it right here."}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "So what it appears to be is an 18 bit signal and you have two synchronization uh bits which is here and here and then"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "you have the main data packet right here. So what it appears to be is it's doing a thing called burst relaying. So"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "it'll power up, it'll burst relay, send and receive signals, then power down again. When it's powered up is appears"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "to be transmitting microwave data, but also it has a gamma radiation byproduct."}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "And I think this is why um it produces actions to move people away, but we'll get into that in a minute. So you're"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "you're essentially um the theory is that these smaller spheres that are you know"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "on camera here floating around or that people are seeing with the naked eye or on their you know nest cams or whatever"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "it is are part of a network. Now, their job primarily"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "is to get people out of the way, is to move people in a certain direction"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "based on an AI system that like triggers that event. Correct. So, a pre-coded library of actions. So, like a library of actions, meaning a"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "wrap at the door or a vase falling off the counter and you have to go and clean it up or"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "something. That's right. It it appears to either want to force you away from itself or lock you in place. So, if I was playing"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "the Sims, you know, you know the game of Sims, right? And and I was to,"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "you know, drop something in the kitchen, what happens to that sim? That's right. He he stays there to clean"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "it up. He he goes into the kitchen, hears a noise, a little bubbly goes, \"Ah, and he and he sweeps it up.\" And so, in that"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "time, you're proposing that that sphere is maneuvering through the house or it's transmitting or it's transmitting something and it"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "doesn't want you to fall ill. Right. I see. Okay. It's all to do with the inverse square law of radiation."}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "And it's it's it seems so far-fetched. I'm not going to lie. But what's interesting, you know, hearing it right"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "now seems far-fetched. But it's interesting how once you start going"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "into all the other sort of um macro sphere of the sphere network,"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "um you're starting to see things that we can actually identify, you know, with cameras and airplanes and different"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "sightings. And so this is like the microcosm of that sphere network,"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "which you know is for me like the hardest pill to swallow out of all of this. So if you so as I said with you"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "have this drone basically it's just a drone that flies around your house um or it's not just your house it it's like"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "any network it has to go where it needs to go the most optimal route right so sometimes it will be like in a field"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "sometimes it'll be in a woodland sometimes it was just a hole in the ground uh sometimes a cave sometimes under a bridge all these areas so it's a"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "network that goes where it needs to go but some sometimes it has to route through populated areas and then it uses"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "buildings uh and then In fact, if you uh map all the haunted buildings in the UK, I mean this is just a sample, but it"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "makes a clear example. If you look, they all operate in lines and clusters which basically mirrors our own microwave"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "based communication networks point to point. It works really it works over topology."}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "Um Yeah. So like relays the information. That's right. And because it's not a straight line."}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "That's right. Yeah. And because it's using microwaves, uh, it means it's line of sight, which means it's stealth,"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "which mean unless you're direct in that line of sight, you won't be able to detect it. Mhm. U, which is exactly what be good for a"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "stealthy network. So, getting back to the the building with with the door banging,"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "uh, this here is a cold shed door, and this is what was banging. Uh, and while I was up here in the bedroom area up"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "here. Now the lead flink emissions are occurring right here on the top floor above the stairs in the attic area."}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "Okay. So what is actually going on here? So when this sphere needs to broadcast and you've got people in the immediate"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "area it will bang this door because if you look at the layout of the house the cold shed door is the most f furthest"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "part of the building like this. So right leading you away leading you away. So what it does is it"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "will bang the door. Everybody in the building will run downstairs to hear and then hear this see this thing banging"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "going what's going on you know it must be you know dead auntie Mel Elvis or something you know"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "and as a result when it broadcasts it's going through 1 2 3 four walls so the"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "radiation's been absorbed by every single wall so it so what it's doing this is evidence of artificial intelligence"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "because it's basically uh measuring where you are and then saying okay you need to be over there in the next 5"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "seconds bang bang bang bang bang everyone goes How is it banging? Is it actually like banging itself against it,"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "do you think? I think so. So, um these things can pass through walls. So, they they've been observed to do a thing called quantum"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "tunneling, which was observed during World War II. Uh this is um the same this the same thing as the foo fighters."}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "So, the the foo fires used to fly into the aircraft, fly around, and then fly out again. And they used to machine gun"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "them, and the bullets would just pass over them or through them, and they they wouldn't touch them. So, what it appears"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "to be is when it needs to broadcast, it will fly over here. Because these things, according to the US government, these spheres can go from zero to Mac 2"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "in a heartbeat. So what it can do, it can fly over here, bang the door like just physically against itself. Boom,"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "boom, boom, boom, boom, and then it will fly back again. And then everyone goes rushing down once, once you're out of range, it"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "classic decoy. Exactly. Yeah. And this throwing a rock. Yeah. So So this is why polygeist"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "activity all around the world has the same library of actions. It bangs doors. It makes uh scratches."}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "It will throw objects like not not generally at you but sort of around you. Um it will also cause fires as well. So"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "it it c it causes all these diversion um uh actions to move people away from itself."}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "So what do you make of poltergeist activity when there's no one around? Well, I mean it's it's it's an AI"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "system, so it will just trigger it or just trigger anyone, right? You know, it it's a it's a process that triggers"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "because I see like Nest Cam videos where like chair goes flying across the room or something."}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "Yeah. Uh but then no one comes to see see the chair. Yeah. You know. Yeah. I mean it is it is a it is an AI"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "based system that would just trigger, you know. Um but if if it knows it's something for observation, it will"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "probably do it anyway. If there's a camera there, it will just do it. So that's what it appears to be. Um and this is why people faint and feel sick"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "in these buildings because it's not the it's not spirits attacking them. You're getting a radiation bath."}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "Yeah, it's the electro is the microwave emission. Yeah. So, this here is a a picture. Um,"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "this was taken off a YouTube video I found. Uh, and these these guys here were were uh getting all this weird"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "polygist activity in in the in this building and they looked up to the attic and they"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "see a small silver sphere in the in the uh in the attic. And this is exactly how it models out. So depending on the type"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "of building it is, the steer will operate in one or two locations. In modern brick buildings, uh say like a"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "two-floor building with a roof, it'll operate in the attic. Um while in uh"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "wooden buildings, like in the states, you have like a single floor wooden building, uh with a basement, it will"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "operate in the basement itself. And it's because the the the basement is the most shielded part of that building,"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "not the Yeah, it can't broadcast in the same room. It will use the basement. But the problem with that is those those"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "buildings themselves are actually the most active ones because you've got high energy emissions going up and down."}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "Okay. And people are in the middle. There's a lot of actions to move these people away. Right. And that's why these buildings are the"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "most active buildings. Interesting. I modeled that the um these spheres are producing gamma radiation and microwave"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "bursts. And this was also picked up by a scientist Jim Sigala. He put um these"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "sensors inside these uh buildings uh where the people were having paranormal like um uh phenomena"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "phenomena occurring. Yeah. And he picked up exactly what I I said which is gamma radiation and microwave"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "bursts effectively what you would need to send signals. Exactly. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "Wow. So you ask yourself like what's the physical effects of gamma radiation? Well, you have um you have nausea and"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "vomiting, uh fatigue and tiredness, headaches, dizziness, fainting, redness on the skin, irritation, um weakness and"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "lethargy, and cognitive impairment as well. Um all of these effects are common"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "in people who go to paranormal locations, right? And also common for a lot of"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "people who interact with um like in the abduction sphere or or contactees or"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "experiencers. You'll, you know, mirror a lot of this as well. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "just from simply the uh not necess Well, I mean I was going to say, you know,"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "perhaps the craft itself, but maybe that craft itself is also sending off microwave signals to something else that"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "you're getting in the way of. Yeah, maybe. Um, so yeah, when you watch these TV shows of people fainting in"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "these buildings and they're thinking it's demons attacking them, right? Being possessed. It's not. You're just you're just"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "getting a radiation dose. Mhm. It's so wild to replace demons with AI. Oh, yeah. I think as a theory it's it's"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "really uh it's really interesting. So what happened to me was I was uh in the 30 East drive and I was uh when that"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "door bang was occurring I stayed upstairs cuz I I there were other things going on in that room"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "and I got brain swelling. My brain started to swell in my skull. Um and uh it was terrible. Like I didn't"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "know what it was at the time but I felt this terrible pressure in my skull. And um in three days I I went from being"}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "quite a fluid thinker and fast to really brittle and short-tempered because of the how I felt. It was awful."}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "Um but yeah, this this is the same thing has occurred at Skinwalker Ranch as well uh where one of them got skin brain"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "swelling uh when they when they got close to these uh radiation vests."}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "So what's the analysis? So what you have are these uh small uh what I call type three spheres which uh they're creating"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "a dynamic network uh that basically can move around to its needs. You have um you have a a main network which is quite"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "rigid. So you have buildings that have been haunted for 30 40 years uh constantly and then you have uh the more"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "dynamic. So you know in in networking terms there's a thing called load balancing whereby if the main route is"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "is too busy right or it's too or it's obstructed it will work around it and that's what appears"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "to be so the dynamic network will reroute signals can shift around will shift around uh when it needs so this is why new buildings with no"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "history with no nothing happening ever are haunted are haunted and I actually was called to a building in London a few years ago and"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "um this is this building was was this house was like a seven million dollar house. Beautiful house. And uh I said,"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "\"Oh, we just bought the place.\" Said, \"No, we've had it for like 6 years, but we dare move in. It's terrible here.\" I"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "was like, \"You're kidding.\" No. And uh the the the house was again, they're having polygist activity around the"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "house. And the the daughters wouldn't live there, and the the the parents were scared to death,"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "but they couldn't what are they going to do? They can't sell it. Yeah. And no one wants it. So So yeah. Um that that's that's the"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "that's what it appears to be. Um so this um model here which is what I produced a few years ago. I um gave this model to"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "uh Senator Gillibbran uh a year before the U uh US UAP hearings and uh they"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "were from what I hear um they were all excited all impressed wanted meetings"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "and then the door slammed shut and never heard we even went to her office. We went to her office and um said what's"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "going on and didn't want to know. Interesting. So what it what it appears to be is is"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "um so you have the type threes down here which are the little ones. Yeah. These are little ones. And this this this here actually represents the"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "ground. Sure. So this these here are like 10 ft 15 30 ft off the ground. Yeah. Operating in buildings and so forth. And"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "then what's happening is they're linking up to the type twos. These are like larger variants of the same technology. These are the ones that people catch on"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:43", "text": "videos. That's right. And they're always over treetop lines, basketball size. That's right. Yeah. Okay. And these are"}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "about, you know, maybe two 300 feet, something like that. And then what happens is they link up to the even larger variants called the type 1 B"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "formation. It's like giant triangular uh formation of spheres. That's right. That's right."}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "So this is this and those are type ones, the bigger ones. That's right. I see. Okay. Yeah. So let's move on. So these are the"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "these are here are the type two. So as you can see they're they're literally about basketball size and they will hover above tree line tree lines and"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "they operate they operate also in lines. So you have maybe have three in a line. So what it appears to be doing is that"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "depending from the the distance from the type 3 data network which is on the ground uh it then has like a low a low"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "energy signal which then boosts up to a higher energy signal to the type twos and then it reamplifies it to you know"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "long distance transmissions. So that's what that appears to be used for. Now, right right away, people seeing"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "that image that you previously had up there, you know where this is going. A lot of people go, \"Oh, is that the boog"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "sphere?\" That instantly that's where people's heads are going to go. They're going to go boophhere, bat sphere, or all these"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "other spheres that have been caught, a lot of them, many of them in South America. But um you know, that one specifically comes"}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "up because it's been in the kind of like cultural zeitgeist recently. Yeah. Uh, real quick as a parenthesis, boophhere,"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "what are we looking at? Um, from what I can tell from the because I I had people um in the lab um"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "the moment that was was the boogers sphere was um was found."}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "Yeah. And I had a real good look at it. Uh I wasn't me. I looked at it through the cameras, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "what they sent me. And um when you get a well from a distance it looks pretty good but when you get it up close it"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "it's um it's basically man-made. There's irregularities that that to you depict that it's man-made. Is that in"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "the in the etchings itself or in the construction of the sphere in in both? Okay. Um, so in the in the"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "uh yeah, if you look close to it, you can see where they've got like a some"}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "sort of scraping tool to mark out the patterns and then they haven't actually fully um"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "cut them out. Yeah. So, yeah. Um, from a distance here, well, from up close, you can see it has many"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "errors. So, you're thinking hoax. Complete hoax. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And, um, also on the X-ray, uh,"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "you see like a bell inside of it. Yep. But they what they do is in in the images they put it sideways. But in fact"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "if you put it like um like vertically what it appears to be is like a a heavy"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:20", "text": "weight like a pendulum. Um and what it looks to be from what I can tell it's like a st a very basic stabilization"}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "unit. So or system. So when it flies it doesn't it doesn't pivot like this. It it it"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:31", "text": "because it be on a string. Yeah. It's on a string and this weight keeps it keeps it kind of more stable."}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:37", "text": "Right. So it's not bobbing and and making Yeah. Oh, I see. And that that would account for the"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "impossible like you know um trajectory that it has because"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "yeah you would think that if something was on a string you could see clearly it's on a string but we do have"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "technology and like you said that's pretty primitive. That's not a gyroscope that's in there but it's something"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "pretty basic that would counteract or counterbalance the sphere in those motions. Wow. Interesting."}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "Yeah. So that that unfortunately that one Do you think scout I think um I just think it's uh"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "just a clever hoax a clever hoax used for a lot of attention on it. Yeah. I mean if this is real what you're"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "saying now it would be a good reason to throw you know throw something in the"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "mix like that. I think so. Yeah. I think poison the well. I think it's just a way of making money. Yeah. Fair enough. Okay. What are we"}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "seeing here? So um the sphere network how it appears to work is through u an"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "algorithm which um basically triggers on uh airborne activity that's out of place"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "and one of these uh is air shows. So when you have like unusual uh air show"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:47", "text": "patterns uh it triggers the V formations and in fact you can see them right here. Uh and in this in this formation um it's"}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "uh like a triangle that's up on its side. Mh. Um, and through the the process I'll show you later, it means that it's"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "actually tracking these right here. So, uh, what it's doing is it's saying, who are you? You know, who goes there?"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "And then, okay, you're you're okay. And then it disappears. This is something I've seen. I remember"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "watching videos, multiple videos of air shows, and someone cuz they're incredibly fast,"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "but they're zipping by and it's clearly a metallic sphere. You're like, that's like not a balloon."}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "And um, you know, I'd always wondered like, what's the point of that? Why are you demonstrating this? But this makes"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "way more sense that it is some type of system that is just basically checking up"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "making sure everything's okay because this is anomalous. It's not a normal flight pattern and that would make sense that the AI"}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:37", "text": "would pick that up. Yeah. So, um there's a video I'll play right now of one of those little spheres. That"}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "was recently in the UK as well where they had the Jubilee or something. They were doing something. Oh, yeah. They had like one of those spheres fly"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "by. Okay. So I noticed that there's uh these operate in two main um configurations."}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "So what you have here you have the type two steer here and then you have the V formation here and it's actually like on"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "a flat plane instead of being up on its side and then you have another type two here and you have another type one V"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "formation again on its flat plane. So uh what it appears to be is um the mathematics I'll show you in a minute"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "but in this case it's tracking two targets and what it what it appears to be is that for every one uh type two"}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "sphere it can control one single cluster of three. So uh that yeah this was taken"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:25", "text": "over um Italy. Italy I believe. Yeah. Was there a sighting that day as well?"}, {"start": "00:39:25", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "Was there like another UFO in the area? I don't know because that's usually what they're there for, right? They're there to like"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "pick up anomalous aerial activity. Well, the interesting thing is from the mathematics you can determine well from"}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "the formation and the and and the distance the the type one spheres are you can you can actually determine the"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "uh loca the distance and location of the object they're tracking. Right. And and from the direction of"}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "where they're pointing. That's right. They would like you could triangulate where that is. That's right. Yeah. So this here took me"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "a long a long time to figure out. But this is the the the um the mathematics of how the sphere network works. It's"}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "using a thing called trilateration. So this is how this is how it basically works. You have the type 3 data network"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "which is on the on the on the uh the ground here. So the the sphere the sphere network um it"}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:20", "text": "appears to be ground based. So it's all controlled from the ground up which is highly likely to be underground. So the you have the type"}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "threes are operating loads of the ground which are then linked down to the servers wherever it's being controlled. Right. So there's like a type four"}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "perhaps even maybe it's underground. Uh well or there's there's some sort of network server or something. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "Server or network. So it's it's this is connecting up to the type two uh locally um because it's"}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "a low energy signal um to here. This is then amplifying that uh that signal to"}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "uh another type two which is local to the type 1 V formation. And then where the type two is and the"}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "position of this you can determine where the target is. You can literally draw a line through the middle of that triangle."}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "Yeah. From that type two. That's right. and find an object. Yeah. Yeah. And what it's doing is it's"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:07", "text": "a a trilateriteration system which is actually the same process we use for our own mobile phone tracking."}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "Okay. Uh where instead of using three spheres, we're using three satellites. Oh wow. So it's the same kind of mathematics"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:19", "text": "behind it. Interesting. But this is obviously this is a a drone based system. So um yeah. So this is"}, {"start": "00:41:19", "end": "00:41:25", "text": "this system here is a very high resolution um tracking and targeting system."}, {"start": "00:41:25", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "Okay. So, hypothetically, we have some terrestrial-based intelligence"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:41", "text": "doing reconnaissance and monitoring for some type of celestial body that's entering the atmosphere potentially."}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:47", "text": "Yeah. It's it's it's effectively like an air defense system, right? To Yeah. But an air defense of"}, {"start": "00:41:47", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "foreign, not human. Yeah. External. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So from this equation up"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:42:00", "text": "here as well depending on the distance of the spheres themselves uh you can determine the distance uh of the target."}, {"start": "00:42:00", "end": "00:42:07", "text": "The wider these thing these spheres are the wider the triangle is the more distant and the closer they are the"}, {"start": "00:42:07", "end": "00:42:13", "text": "closer right and it works out to be like 1 to 10. So for every like uh 1 meter it works out a"}, {"start": "00:42:13", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "th00and thousand uh meters in distance. Okay. Is yeah that's kind of like that's baseline here. So yeah, the these these"}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:27", "text": "three these uh these um this triangle here is doing a two-dimensional scan of the sky and then this fourth one here is"}, {"start": "00:42:27", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "doing a distance calculation. And when you fuse that data together, you get 3D tracking in space."}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:39", "text": "Mhm. Interesting. Very cool. Show us some examples of this. So this was over um this over the UK"}, {"start": "00:42:39", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "coast and you can see the the type 1B formation right here and this is the type two. Okay. And they're illuminated because"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:51", "text": "they're powered up. They're ready. They're ready to go. Yeah. They're ready to They're ready to What? What exactly does go mean?"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:56", "text": "Uh, well, they're ready they're ready to um fire a fire a directed energy weapon possibly. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:03", "text": "Whoa. Okay. Yeah. When when they're So, it's strange. They they seem to have a color code system, which I haven't quite"}, {"start": "00:43:03", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "worked out yet, but they they glow either red, green, or blue. So, it's almost like a traffic light system."}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "Mhm. But from what I can tell, um yeah, when they're powered up like this, it means"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "they're ready for business. So, do you think we saw some of these during that drone flap in Jersey?"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "Oh, yes. Yes. Yeah, there's a lot there was a lot of that there. Yeah. In fact, I I looked at some of the the footage from that and you can"}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:32", "text": "clearly see the formations formations, but what you what what's actually happening there is you have the sphere"}, {"start": "00:43:32", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "network doing its thing, which is always the same formations and process, but then you have other drones that are"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "tracking it. So, it appears to be to American drones, most likely fuel cell drones because they can stay up. They're"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "high performance drones. They can stay up in the air for a long time and they're quick refueling as well. Um, and they appear to be tracking the"}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "the the sphere network cuz it's going around doing it, right? So you got the sphere network tracking the drones, the drones tracking"}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "the sphere network and then the sphere network perhaps tracking more of those drones and then this exponential"}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:11", "text": "monitoring system where we start monitoring each other and uh the interesting thing is is that"}, {"start": "00:44:11", "end": "00:44:19", "text": "the the drones that people are seeing in in over New Jersey uh appear to have FAA lights on them. So what it means is that"}, {"start": "00:44:19", "end": "00:44:25", "text": "the spheres are doing their own thing, but the the drones that are tracking them are using FAA lights maybe to warn"}, {"start": "00:44:25", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "off other air traffic. That's what how it logically models out. Yeah. I mean that's something that's"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:37", "text": "kind of a conclusion that I came to myself with you know this whole system talk was that what we were seeing in New"}, {"start": "00:44:37", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "Jersey you know perhaps could have initiated with some form of nonhuman"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:49", "text": "interaction that we had uh some type of spacecraft monitoring maybe us you know"}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "moving around a dirty bomb or uh you know playing around with you know nuclear stuff and then that triggered"}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:03", "text": "you know um a set of perhaps, you know, monitoring nonhuman intelligence and"}, {"start": "00:45:03", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "then we sent our monitors and now we're just looking at like this incredible cluster. Well, it it started after Russia"}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "launched a I think it was um an IC ICBM in in Ukraine"}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:22", "text": "into Ukraine. Yeah. But it wasn't like armed with nuclear weapons, right? That's when it started."}, {"start": "00:45:22", "end": "00:45:28", "text": "So, yeah, because you had a lot of uh stuff happen at Lake Heath at that time as well, right?"}, {"start": "00:45:28", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "flap which you know probably not harboring anything now but I would suspect"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:42", "text": "some nuclear arms um you know in and around there probably explains Rendlessham as well."}, {"start": "00:45:42", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "Well if you think about it if there is an ultraterrestrial presence on Earth um they don't want us to go nuclear because"}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:53", "text": "it ruins their their house home as well. Sure. Yeah. So they're they're probably keeping a"}, {"start": "00:45:53", "end": "00:46:00", "text": "keeping a tab on things to say. That's a good reason to keep it safe. Yeah. Yeah. In fact, um I've got footage recently of"}, {"start": "00:46:00", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "um the the Type 1 B formations. They're taking out rockets over uh the Middle East,"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:11", "text": "over Israel and uh Iran as well. They don't seem to pick any size. They don't"}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:17", "text": "not they don't pick any particular sides. Yeah. But they uh But that's not the Iron Dome doing that."}, {"start": "00:46:17", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "No, no, no, no, no. These are fixed triangles in the sky. Oh, you see them? Yeah. Yeah. You can see them taking out"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "missiles. Um, so it appears that they they're keeping things a lid on things."}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:34", "text": "Sure. Um, but that that's what it appears to be. So this was taken over Florida and again you can see the type two and the"}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "type one V formation like this. And in this configuration uh the targets at 1:00, right?"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:45", "text": "And then here you've got the other ones here. You've got the the V for the the type ones here and the type two is taken"}, {"start": "00:46:45", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "off a cruise ship. This one here you can actually see the saucer is tracking as well. Where's that from? The top one. Uh"}, {"start": "00:46:51", "end": "00:46:58", "text": "that's from uh there. I can't pronounce that. It's a funny."}, {"start": "00:46:58", "end": "00:47:04", "text": "Okay. It's like either Mexico or some Spanish speaking country. This was over Barcelona. And again, you"}, {"start": "00:47:04", "end": "00:47:11", "text": "can see the daisy chaining as I said in my model. Uh type two B formation uh 1:00 position."}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:17", "text": "Interesting. And then here you've got multiple examples of the same thing all over the all over the world. All different times."}, {"start": "00:47:17", "end": "00:47:24", "text": "They're always in this formation. within the same formations. They're both doing triater. Could some of these just be prosaic?"}, {"start": "00:47:24", "end": "00:47:31", "text": "No. No. None of these. Not one of these could be balloons like gone off at a party or something. No. No. The this is all very a very"}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:37", "text": "distinct process that keeps replicating. So, and and you base that on the measurement, the distance between the"}, {"start": "00:47:37", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "spheres and like there's like it's not just like a a gutsh shot. You're you're measuring these things. You're looking"}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "at these things making sure. Have you found any videos where you're like that's clearly balloons or that's"}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:53", "text": "clearly because that's important too. I think there are people out there who do fake stuff. Yeah. But like not even like even"}, {"start": "00:47:53", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "accidentally like if you let something go at a party some Chinese lanterns or something you might you know it three"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:06", "text": "Chinese lanterns in a cluster looks like a triangle, right? It is a triangle. Yeah. But the difference is that these triangles are um highly distinct um uh"}, {"start": "00:48:06", "end": "00:48:12", "text": "what's the word? Concise triangles, right? Which means that they are exactly the same distance apart."}, {"start": "00:48:12", "end": "00:48:18", "text": "Equilateral. Yeah. equilateral because for for trilateration to work, they have to be perfectly"}, {"start": "00:48:18", "end": "00:48:24", "text": "distanced. Okay. All right. Uh, yeah. So, this one here is obviously the the space explosion B-roll. I"}, {"start": "00:48:24", "end": "00:48:30", "text": "suppose you can mix that in, but Yeah. Put that in here. That was wild to look at. So, bit of context. This"}, {"start": "00:48:30", "end": "00:48:35", "text": "gentleman was just filming the stars. That's right. Yeah. And then what can you talk us through?"}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:41", "text": "So yeah, this was um filmed uh through a telescope a few years ago way before um"}, {"start": "00:48:41", "end": "00:48:47", "text": "any of the disclosure stuff that's happening now. If you can see that planet over there,"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:53", "text": "these small lights start coming in. So that's a planet. Well, he thinks it's he thinks it's a planet."}, {"start": "00:48:53", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "Not sure because it's bright and he's like, \"Oh, there's something orbiting this planet.\" You can hear him saying that. M"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:06", "text": "and so out of curiosity, he's just he's filming through his phone."}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:12", "text": "He's filming the uh the telescope. I'm going to be filming that planet just"}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:17", "text": "right. Okay. So, you can't even see with the naked eye. That's right. Yeah. All right. So, that dot that was there"}, {"start": "00:49:17", "end": "00:49:22", "text": "is probably the moon or something, but what he's looking at, you can't see with the naked eye. Yeah. Check this out."}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:30", "text": "And now, watch this as he goes back to look at Oh my god, it blew up. What the hell?"}, {"start": "00:49:30", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "Something just blew the hell up. It was orbiting and now it blew it closely. You can see"}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "there's a triangle. It's no longer there. Oh, I see. And in that configuration, it's in a horizontal configuration, which means"}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "it's uh doing downward or upward trilateration. So, there's something in orbit or above"}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "orbit, even past orbit or somewhere that's being completely obliterated."}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:50:01", "text": "Clearly an explosion. Yeah. And he noticed So, this person reached"}, {"start": "00:50:01", "end": "00:50:09", "text": "out to you specifically or was he just filming this randomly? No, he was just filming it randomly and uh I saw it and uh because I I noticed"}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:16", "text": "that the the the V formations and then I looked at that and I saw again the V formations. It's like, okay, so there we"}, {"start": "00:50:16", "end": "00:50:22", "text": "go. Um so knowing the information, you know, you're you're scouring the internet,"}, {"start": "00:50:22", "end": "00:50:27", "text": "seeing these videos, and you're going, oh my god. Yeah, it's happening again again. And it happens all the time."}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "Wild. And uh to give you a bit of context, uh I think it's actually very common. Um"}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "let me show you. So this was filmed in my own back garden here. And um you can see these bright"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:45", "text": "flashes deep in space. Uh and you can't you can't really see this with the naked eye. You need your night scope to see"}, {"start": "00:50:45", "end": "00:50:50", "text": "this. Um and uh it's not just in the same place. It's actually like a cluster"}, {"start": "00:50:50", "end": "00:50:56", "text": "of of explosions. So yeah, I think that these uh what these flashes are those explosions occurring in space."}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:51:02", "text": "See, to me that that could look like an airplane, though. Yeah. I mean, from from you know, but when when you're actually filming it, I"}, {"start": "00:51:02", "end": "00:51:07", "text": "mean, this thing is so deep up in space, you know, it's it's not. And you can't see it with a naked eye."}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:13", "text": "You're saying it's very hard to see with a naked eye. I see. I see. Okay. Interesting. Yeah. So um it appears to be like"}, {"start": "00:51:13", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "there's this um this uh AI based uh network around us that is um using an"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "algorithm to intercept and destroy uh external threats including other groups"}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "that are coming here including maybe meteorites including our own and maybe our own as well. I think"}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:38", "text": "nuclear threats like I mean if you have what was it um the big su"}, {"start": "00:51:38", "end": "00:51:45", "text": "um event where they shot a rocket up. That's right. Yeah. And then some but they said a disc came"}, {"start": "00:51:45", "end": "00:51:52", "text": "around and started zapping it and then took a rocket down. Yeah. It could I mean it could be a disc. I don't know. But uh it it does"}, {"start": "00:51:52", "end": "00:51:57", "text": "appear to be um uh taking care of should we say airborne"}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:52:04", "text": "threats. um both from on the earth itself like between us but also external"}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "as well. Cool. Is that it for the slideshow? Yeah."}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:15", "text": "Well, very interesting. I mean, this stuff is very interesting. As I mentioned at the"}, {"start": "00:52:15", "end": "00:52:24", "text": "top of the episode, I' I've been toying with this idea of like through especially observing abductions and some"}, {"start": "00:52:24", "end": "00:52:30", "text": "of the online testimony that people have come forward with claiming to have worked on a lot of these crash retrieval"}, {"start": "00:52:30", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "stuff that it sort of behaves like a system. And if you look at the work that"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "Skyatcher was doing, um, you know, in in my opinion was"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:48", "text": "probably also simulating war games. That's what I think. Um, and I think"}, {"start": "00:52:48", "end": "00:52:54", "text": "that's what they were doing. Part of what they were doing aside from the psionic, you know, stuff was throwing"}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "stuff up kind of like skinwalker's doing. Just like, let's blow stuff up in the air. Let's create. Look at um you"}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:08", "text": "had was it Lu Alzando talked about Interloper? Project Interloper. Same thing. Driving a nuke out into the"}, {"start": "00:53:08", "end": "00:53:13", "text": "middle of the ocean to see if they can attract these things. It seems like"}, {"start": "00:53:13", "end": "00:53:21", "text": "now this would be pretty easy to replicate if a jet can just summon them."}, {"start": "00:53:21", "end": "00:53:28", "text": "Um what's stopping us from shooting them down and and and and looking at them"}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:34", "text": "closer? Um, well, I think they're very hard to shoot down, number one. I mean, World War II proved"}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "that they were they were opening up machine guns on them and they they wouldn't come they wouldn't fall down. Um, however, I do think that there has"}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:45", "text": "been a number of them that have just uh malfunctioned and uh landed on the ground. Anyway, I've been on this for a"}, {"start": "00:53:45", "end": "00:53:51", "text": "long long time. Um I wrote the book my first book in 2015 and which identified"}, {"start": "00:53:51", "end": "00:53:58", "text": "these spheres and buildings and also the V formations as well we're now seeing in the sky which um kind of"}, {"start": "00:53:58", "end": "00:54:03", "text": "correlates with what uh Beatric Dr. Beatus has found uh well she's found"}, {"start": "00:54:03", "end": "00:54:08", "text": "triplets up in the atmosphere so which are coming and going in her slides"}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:14", "text": "correct that those are the ones that were um that she found. So uh for for"}, {"start": "00:54:14", "end": "00:54:20", "text": "for those wondering uh Villa Royale I think her name is Beatatrice uh she has"}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "put a lot of work into looking at these slides that she's taken from the past um"}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "you know telescope slides I believe photos that have been taken of our skies and then noticed that a few of these"}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:42", "text": "bright lights would disappear when the Earth's shadow"}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "uh got between the sun and these objects which if it was a star wouldn't be the"}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:54", "text": "case. So that's like a smoking gun if I understand correctly. Uh that these thing and this is prior to"}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:55:01", "text": "satellites. This is prior to us putting anything up there. There should be nothing up there. That's right. And yet these things are getting blocked"}, {"start": "00:55:01", "end": "00:55:06", "text": "out by the shadow of the earth. That's right. Which means they're quite local. That's right."}, {"start": "00:55:06", "end": "00:55:13", "text": "And and you're saying they're in triangular formation. Um well my model suggests well from what I my data um"}, {"start": "00:55:13", "end": "00:55:18", "text": "shows that these uh type 1 V formations are in big triangles. So they've been here for a while"}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:25", "text": "long long time. Um because there's there's images of them going back for you know decades if not if not hundreds"}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:30", "text": "of years. Um there's even uh pictures in um in"}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:36", "text": "religious imagery of type one spheres what look to be spheres in B formation."}, {"start": "00:55:36", "end": "00:55:43", "text": "So it's been here for a long time. In fact, um I can kind of kind of theoretically model how far long they've"}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:51", "text": "been here because they say the type 3es are responsible for polygist activity. Um and that's 100%. I'm actually 100%"}, {"start": "00:55:51", "end": "00:55:57", "text": "sure on that. Um and so all you have to do is Google um"}, {"start": "00:55:57", "end": "00:56:04", "text": "when was the first recorded case of polist activity and it goes back to the first century. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:56:04", "end": "00:56:10", "text": "But I mean correlation doesn't relate to causality also. Like I mean there could"}, {"start": "00:56:10", "end": "00:56:17", "text": "be both, right? They could be mutually exclusive. Um you know for people thinking like all poltergeist activity"}, {"start": "00:56:17", "end": "00:56:23", "text": "is these type threes. There could be a mix of things happening here too. Well the reason why I say it's the same"}, {"start": "00:56:23", "end": "00:56:29", "text": "because it's the same library of actions that are occurring. It's the same signatures. I see. So, I'm not saying all I'm not saying that all um"}, {"start": "00:56:29", "end": "00:56:35", "text": "paranormal activity is a type three sphere. Just specifically specifically poltergeist activity. Poltergeist activity."}, {"start": "00:56:35", "end": "00:56:41", "text": "Yeah. Huh. And so, okay, let's say for"}, {"start": "00:56:41", "end": "00:56:47", "text": "argument sake that this is what's happening, which I I feel like you've presented pretty good evidence that this"}, {"start": "00:56:47", "end": "00:56:54", "text": "uh this points to something like that happening. Essentially, if this is true, what we're"}, {"start": "00:56:54", "end": "00:57:01", "text": "dealing with here is multiple species right off the bat because we're dealing with one species that is controlling"}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:06", "text": "these things preventing another species from interacting with this planet. Correct."}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "So, at least two more species at least. What are your theories on what those"}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:16", "text": "species might be according to lore and according to, you know, a lot of the"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:23", "text": "research that previous researchers have done in the space? Um all all I can really say from a technical point of view is is uh that the sphere network is"}, {"start": "00:57:23", "end": "00:57:30", "text": "controlled from the ground up which means that um there's infrastructure or a lot of infrastructure goes all around"}, {"start": "00:57:30", "end": "00:57:37", "text": "the world um that controls this. Um in fact under skinwalker ranch uh when they"}, {"start": "00:57:37", "end": "00:57:43", "text": "dig down 500 ft they finding what appears to be materials that are consistent with say buildings."}, {"start": "00:57:43", "end": "00:57:48", "text": "Yeah. Like a solid object down there. Yeah. So that's where you'd put your server rooms and stuff. In fact, I think"}, {"start": "00:57:48", "end": "00:57:55", "text": "it's probably all hidden in plain sight. So you you have the you have the the main arch or main um systems all"}, {"start": "00:57:55", "end": "00:58:02", "text": "underground and then these other guys are probably living inside mountains all hidden inside like huge uh like almost"}, {"start": "00:58:02", "end": "00:58:07", "text": "like bunkers I suppose like huge cities or something inside mountains themselves. I mean we have that though."}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:15", "text": "Yeah. We've got possibly hundreds of deep underground military bases like so deep and probably a tram system that runs you"}, {"start": "00:58:15", "end": "00:58:21", "text": "know Yeah. through these all. So, are you do you speculate that the United"}, {"start": "00:58:21", "end": "00:58:26", "text": "States government or at least some faction of it is completely aware of this system? Uh, well, I'll tell you a funny story."}, {"start": "00:58:26", "end": "00:58:33", "text": "Um I was in uh a friend of mine was in 30 East Drive and um he was laying on"}, {"start": "00:58:33", "end": "00:58:38", "text": "the sofa and uh he said uh there's a big flash and uh he opened his eyes and he"}, {"start": "00:58:38", "end": "00:58:43", "text": "saw a woman standing looking over him and she was in uniform and I and uh then"}, {"start": "00:58:43", "end": "00:58:48", "text": "he saw like a ball of light come forward and big flash again and nothing all"}, {"start": "00:58:48", "end": "00:58:55", "text": "gone. The whole the whole sort of event lasted maybe 3 or 4 seconds. So I I we"}, {"start": "00:58:55", "end": "00:59:01", "text": "we did a search on the uniform and it was Space Force. Yeah. Okay. So this was recent."}, {"start": "00:59:01", "end": "00:59:07", "text": "Yeah. I've even heard of I've even spoke to other like TV producers. So what does that mean? Wait, hold on."}, {"start": "00:59:07", "end": "00:59:13", "text": "What does that mean? That does that mean they were using the Sphere network? I think Space Force is well aware of it"}, {"start": "00:59:13", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "and I think that they probably work in tandem with them. Oh, so you think there's like some type of agreement?"}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:24", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Well, it must be because Well, yeah, I think there has to be."}, {"start": "00:59:24", "end": "00:59:29", "text": "That's interesting. Yeah, because now we're talking about like back into the, you know, Eisenhower days"}, {"start": "00:59:29", "end": "00:59:36", "text": "and the Griata stuff and and us possibly having a deal with them. You you think"}, {"start": "00:59:36", "end": "00:59:41", "text": "it wouldn't have been a deal with extraterrestrials, but it would have been a deal with ultraterrestrials? More likely than not. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:59:41", "end": "00:59:46", "text": "Some type of cave dwelling ancestor that's been here possibly. Yeah. Reptilian maybe."}, {"start": "00:59:46", "end": "00:59:52", "text": "I have no idea. I have no idea. Um but yeah say all I can say is that the the"}, {"start": "00:59:52", "end": "00:59:57", "text": "network uh control the control system for it has to be underground and and it"}, {"start": "00:59:57", "end": "01:00:03", "text": "has to be up to date and adaptive as well. Um in fact uh I've got images uh"}, {"start": "01:00:03", "end": "01:00:09", "text": "of the tic tac uh because recently you know they're trying to say that the tic tac is locked or something like that and"}, {"start": "01:00:09", "end": "01:00:14", "text": "it's not right. It's not. There's pictures of the tic tac going back years and I mean years"}, {"start": "01:00:14", "end": "01:00:19", "text": "like decades. You can show me the uh we can pull up that image that you showed me earlier. Uh yeah, it's in the book."}, {"start": "01:00:19", "end": "01:00:25", "text": "Yeah, it's in the book. We'll pull that up. Okay. Um and what that does what what appears to happen is uh the the"}, {"start": "01:00:25", "end": "01:00:33", "text": "network itself brings down so so to start again. So the the the low tech um"}, {"start": "01:00:33", "end": "01:00:38", "text": "crafts that are coming in are taken out early and you see them as as flashes in the sky. Those are the ones getting obliterated."}, {"start": "01:00:38", "end": "01:00:45", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. They're like the the less advanced ones. Why are they coming here? Oh, I I Well, we may get into that later, but but uh"}, {"start": "01:00:45", "end": "01:00:51", "text": "many reasons maybe. Yeah, many reasons. But but um but so the the lower tech ones get taken out at"}, {"start": "01:00:51", "end": "01:00:58", "text": "a distance uh while the the higher tech ones get closer to the earth in the same way a stealth fighter will get closer to"}, {"start": "01:00:58", "end": "01:01:05", "text": "a target uh by because it can navigate through the network, right? Um, so the ones that are um we"}, {"start": "01:01:05", "end": "01:01:10", "text": "see come close to the ground, what appears to happen is the the spheres"}, {"start": "01:01:10", "end": "01:01:18", "text": "that um use a swarm tactic and they'll just swarm all around it. Um, literally sometimes locking locking it in midair"}, {"start": "01:01:18", "end": "01:01:23", "text": "just like like creating like a bubble around it. Um, and what it appears to be is it"}, {"start": "01:01:23", "end": "01:01:28", "text": "it'll either well it appears to disable or destroy those those targets that come"}, {"start": "01:01:28", "end": "01:01:34", "text": "down close. Mhm. but it appears to disable them and they landed mostly in the ocean. Um and"}, {"start": "01:01:34", "end": "01:01:41", "text": "then what happens is a tic tac will come in and then lock onto it like through a thing called quantum tunnel uh quantum"}, {"start": "01:01:41", "end": "01:01:46", "text": "um locking uh and then it will pull it out and then extract it out and it's"}, {"start": "01:01:46", "end": "01:01:52", "text": "very very fast which is actually what those pilots saw if you remember those part yeah and they said they saw a"}, {"start": "01:01:52", "end": "01:01:59", "text": "disturbance in the water and the tic tac over the top and they did another swing around and it had gone and that's what it appears to be and"}, {"start": "01:01:59", "end": "01:02:04", "text": "it was getting ready to like grab one of those fighters. No, no. It's to grab just to grab the object that was under"}, {"start": "01:02:04", "end": "01:02:10", "text": "the water. I see. Yeah. Yeah. So, it disables them. They land on the ocean and they get pulled out. Um, and the this is this would be"}, {"start": "01:02:10", "end": "01:02:15", "text": "logically correct because if you have a a craft that can penetrate the network,"}, {"start": "01:02:15", "end": "01:02:21", "text": "then you want that craft because you need to reverse engineer it. You'd need to grab it um take it somewhere, analyze"}, {"start": "01:02:21", "end": "01:02:27", "text": "it, um, and figure out how it managed to penetrate the network, make your system better, and then you make you adapt the system,"}, {"start": "01:02:27", "end": "01:02:33", "text": "make it better. That's something AI I feel like that's a very AI thing to do as well. And this this kind of proves why the"}, {"start": "01:02:33", "end": "01:02:39", "text": "serial network is current and up to date because if it was uh like any arms race,"}, {"start": "01:02:39", "end": "01:02:44", "text": "if it was old, people would just they would just be able to penetrate it no problem, right? No."}, {"start": "01:02:44", "end": "01:02:50", "text": "Ooh, that's interesting. So many interesting connections that I'm I'm hearing through this, you know, especially I'm I'm kind of obsessed with"}, {"start": "01:02:50", "end": "01:02:55", "text": "this one guy who came out on 4chan, which is, you know, not the most reputable site to come to be a"}, {"start": "01:02:55", "end": "01:03:02", "text": "whistleblower on, but this person said he worked on these crash retrieval stuff, and a lot of things that he's been saying, you know, we look back on,"}, {"start": "01:03:02", "end": "01:03:08", "text": "we're like, \"Oh, wow. This is kind of, you know, what he's talking about.\" And it seems like a lot of these systems are"}, {"start": "01:03:08", "end": "01:03:14", "text": "in the ocean. Uh perhaps these servers are mobile. You know, for me, that would make much more sense than for it to be"}, {"start": "01:03:14", "end": "01:03:19", "text": "at a singular location. Oh, yeah. Because there's way better places to hide. Oh, yeah. The moon, you know,"}, {"start": "01:03:19", "end": "01:03:26", "text": "under the oceans if you had that technology. Um, and so this thing's moving around."}, {"start": "01:03:26", "end": "01:03:31", "text": "But it did say uh he did say it was really interesting because when they try to approach this thing with like nuclear"}, {"start": "01:03:31", "end": "01:03:37", "text": "submarines, they would just get obliterated. And he means into nothing. There's nothing left. And he's like"}, {"start": "01:03:37", "end": "01:03:45", "text": "electric electronics around them. It would, in his words, it would on anything electronic in in the vicinity."}, {"start": "01:03:45", "end": "01:03:51", "text": "And normally it would be evasive until you cornered it and then it would just obliterate you. And it said he said that"}, {"start": "01:03:51", "end": "01:03:57", "text": "if you ever did any sharp turns, that's where it would intercept."}, {"start": "01:03:57", "end": "01:04:03", "text": "And so I thought that was interesting because now we're talking about an anomaly in pattern detection,"}, {"start": "01:04:03", "end": "01:04:08", "text": "right? So, if you're just a boat going across or if you're just a plane flying across and all of a sudden you do a"}, {"start": "01:04:08", "end": "01:04:13", "text": "sharp turn, that signals to them, wait, what is that? We got to go check that out."}, {"start": "01:04:13", "end": "01:04:20", "text": "Um, I'm reminded of another story. There's something somebody we covered recently, Carlos de los Santos. He was a"}, {"start": "01:04:20", "end": "01:04:28", "text": "pilot in the 70s and there is an audio recording. It's like 20 minutes long"}, {"start": "01:04:28", "end": "01:04:34", "text": "where three discshaped objects intercept his plane,"}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:40", "text": "one on each wing and one under him, and he feels it and it kind of like locks him and he"}, {"start": "01:04:40", "end": "01:04:46", "text": "could he had no control over it and eventually they let him go. Yeah. Is is that something that you feel could"}, {"start": "01:04:46", "end": "01:04:52", "text": "be part of this network? Maybe an earlier version. No, I I think that's probably some sort"}, {"start": "01:04:52", "end": "01:04:58", "text": "of extraction. M. So like the what the tic tac would be doing. No, no, I think I think that would"}, {"start": "01:04:58", "end": "01:05:05", "text": "probably be something external coming in to try and extract something from here. I see. Um and then because it if it let if if"}, {"start": "01:05:05", "end": "01:05:12", "text": "they go to the bother of locking onto a craft and pulling it up. Um why would they let it go?"}, {"start": "01:05:12", "end": "01:05:17", "text": "I mean, why what would be the point? Yeah. Only unless they're forced or Oh, unless they're forced, right? Or"}, {"start": "01:05:17", "end": "01:05:24", "text": "unless Yeah, I guess unless they they're like, \"Oops, my bad. Wrong guy.\" M I don't think so."}, {"start": "01:05:24", "end": "01:05:30", "text": "Yeah, it doesn't really sound It's like any any action has deliberate deliberate thought behind it. You don't think they make mistakes?"}, {"start": "01:05:30", "end": "01:05:37", "text": "The spheres? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Um I think in the past they have um"}, {"start": "01:05:37", "end": "01:05:43", "text": "misidentified targets. Um there's many there's there is some footage of like"}, {"start": "01:05:43", "end": "01:05:50", "text": "this early 80s where they'll be doing like an air show and um suddenly the"}, {"start": "01:05:50", "end": "01:05:56", "text": "wing will be torn off a plane and then it will crash. Wow. But when you actually look close to the footage you'll see these small silver"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:06:04", "text": "balls or sphere like objects tearing like literally like projectile like cannonballing through the the wing. Um"}, {"start": "01:06:04", "end": "01:06:09", "text": "but that doesn't seem to happen now. So Ryan Graves shared this reminds me"}, {"start": "01:06:09", "end": "01:06:16", "text": "shared a story I believe this year might have been end of last year about"}, {"start": "01:06:16", "end": "01:06:22", "text": "a I believe spherical object that hit a plane. Do you remember this?"}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:29", "text": "It rings a bell. Yeah. He he said that there was actually physical damage to like the haul of the aircraft. Well, that I mean the thing is"}, {"start": "01:06:29", "end": "01:06:35", "text": "is that the type twos they they what their behavior signature is they"}, {"start": "01:06:35", "end": "01:06:42", "text": "will hover say low to the ground. Um but they'll stay generally in the same place"}, {"start": "01:06:42", "end": "01:06:48", "text": "because they're creating a microwave link point to point. So they're kind of stuck in that position for a while."}, {"start": "01:06:48", "end": "01:06:55", "text": "Mhm. So if the if the if the sphere was higher then and the plane hit it then"}, {"start": "01:06:55", "end": "01:07:00", "text": "there's a good reason probably why it didn't move. You think a EMP would take them down?"}, {"start": "01:07:00", "end": "01:07:08", "text": "Um if they're if they're using that type of tech. I don't know. I really don't know. I mean, I know that uh the spheres were"}, {"start": "01:07:08", "end": "01:07:13", "text": "all over um was it Heathro or Yeah."}, {"start": "01:07:13", "end": "01:07:21", "text": "Yeah. A few months, few about a year ago. It was on the tarmac and then just shot up apparently. Well, no, even before then. Um they they"}, {"start": "01:07:21", "end": "01:07:26", "text": "went over Well, they they blamed drones at the time. Uh but there was this one image that was"}, {"start": "01:07:26", "end": "01:07:32", "text": "circling around of like this literal sphere. Yeah. There were there were these uh there was a story where uh two airports"}, {"start": "01:07:32", "end": "01:07:38", "text": "in the UK were shut were locked down at pretty much at the same time. One I think one was Gatwick and one was"}, {"start": "01:07:38", "end": "01:07:44", "text": "Heathro, right? And uh they blamed drones. Um but the military went in there with all their"}, {"start": "01:07:44", "end": "01:07:50", "text": "toys and they couldn't knock them out, right? And uh these drones, I mean, the average drone has what a flight time of"}, {"start": "01:07:50", "end": "01:07:56", "text": "maybe 30 minutes and then it has to land, you know, even if you got like a stack of batteries, you have to be"}, {"start": "01:07:56", "end": "01:08:03", "text": "within that kind of radius and then you got to replace the batteries, put it back in again. But these things were there for hours, hours"}, {"start": "01:08:03", "end": "01:08:09", "text": "and hours. So these things aren't commercial drones. Uh didn't and the military wouldn't be flying drones over"}, {"start": "01:08:09", "end": "01:08:14", "text": "commercial airspace. So the the army went in there and and"}, {"start": "01:08:14", "end": "01:08:19", "text": "didn't couldn't find anything. Um when they got close they disappeared and then they came back again."}, {"start": "01:08:19", "end": "01:08:26", "text": "Yeah. But I mean that does you know what I think is happening is is that the the sphere network will lock down"}, {"start": "01:08:26", "end": "01:08:33", "text": "particular areas at sometimes if there is a threat in the air general airspace they will lock down the the like air"}, {"start": "01:08:33", "end": "01:08:38", "text": "traffic. Sure. To not interfere with what they have going on. Yeah. Like you stay down there rather"}, {"start": "01:08:38", "end": "01:08:44", "text": "you deal with this. But I mean this gets incredibly complicated when we talk about China and Russia's capabilities as"}, {"start": "01:08:44", "end": "01:08:50", "text": "well. Like are like what are your thoughts on that? Are"}, {"start": "01:08:50", "end": "01:08:57", "text": "they also working in tandem with these things or are they aware of it? Like I don't know. They would have to be. So, regarding I"}, {"start": "01:08:57", "end": "01:09:06", "text": "mean they they were trying to say that the drones over New Zeal New Jersey were Chinese drones, but it doesn't make"}, {"start": "01:09:06", "end": "01:09:12", "text": "any sense because you need to have a power source on that drone. Mhm. So, what's it going to is it going to fly all the way to China"}, {"start": "01:09:12", "end": "01:09:18", "text": "on a lithium battery? Yeah. They said it was emanating from the ocean at one point like some Iranian"}, {"start": "01:09:18", "end": "01:09:25", "text": "vessel or something was like the the narrative. I think I think if if there was a Iranian vessel"}, {"start": "01:09:25", "end": "01:09:31", "text": "um launching drones into US airspace, the US would react very quickly. I would think so, too."}, {"start": "01:09:31", "end": "01:09:39", "text": "Yeah. But I mean, we we had also last year the big flap at Langley Air Force Base, home of the most F-22 fighters,"}, {"start": "01:09:39", "end": "01:09:45", "text": "you know, that's like arguably one of the biggest protected military establishments or air force"}, {"start": "01:09:45", "end": "01:09:50", "text": "establishments in the United States. And yet for what 17 days? Yeah."}, {"start": "01:09:50", "end": "01:09:55", "text": "There were things hanging in the sky. Yeah. So the the power source that China"}, {"start": "01:09:55", "end": "01:10:00", "text": "can't replicate those power sources. Yeah. Or can Russia. I mean there are things called nuclear batteries but they're"}, {"start": "01:10:00", "end": "01:10:08", "text": "huge and they're heavy and they don't produce the output. So the so the other option is lithium or it's fuel cell. Uh"}, {"start": "01:10:08", "end": "01:10:13", "text": "both of which are limited and you need to be they need to be refueled or replaced. So the the tech the the the"}, {"start": "01:10:13", "end": "01:10:20", "text": "power the energy technology just isn't there. especially from China China or Russia. Uh Russia, you know, people talk"}, {"start": "01:10:20", "end": "01:10:26", "text": "about Russia as like some sort of superpower. I mean, yeah, they're a nuclear superpower, but they they"}, {"start": "01:10:26", "end": "01:10:31", "text": "they're not doing very well in in Ukraine. Yeah. You know, so so they're they're not"}, {"start": "01:10:31", "end": "01:10:37", "text": "they're not um militarily as powerful as people think. Um"}, {"start": "01:10:37", "end": "01:10:42", "text": "nor is China. Yeah. There's that argument of like nobody wanting to show their hand."}, {"start": "01:10:42", "end": "01:10:47", "text": "Yeah. Uh but also at the end of the day, I mean that you could say that about"}, {"start": "01:10:47", "end": "01:10:53", "text": "anything. I mean, the truth is the only the only country in the world that has the resources to reverse engineer or or"}, {"start": "01:10:53", "end": "01:11:00", "text": "capitalize on UAP technology is the US because it's got the budget. Yeah. And they've been doing it for a"}, {"start": "01:11:00", "end": "01:11:07", "text": "long time potentially. Yeah. Yeah. They're showing up at all these crashes all around the world, too. Mhm. So um"}, {"start": "01:11:07", "end": "01:11:13", "text": "yeah the these uh these uh when the the new New Jersey drones are as I said it's"}, {"start": "01:11:13", "end": "01:11:21", "text": "part well a big portion of it is the sphere network because of the formations that are are repeating"}, {"start": "01:11:21", "end": "01:11:28", "text": "um and then they've been monitored by US drones. It's that simple."}, {"start": "01:11:28", "end": "01:11:34", "text": "Fascinating stuff man is really really uh interesting. What's what's something that you looked at in"}, {"start": "01:11:34", "end": "01:11:40", "text": "the past other than videos that has convinced you a little bit more about this narrative?"}, {"start": "01:11:40", "end": "01:11:47", "text": "Um, well, my experience inside 30 studies drive and all the haunting stuff and the patterns and the what I call"}, {"start": "01:11:47", "end": "01:11:53", "text": "machine patterns. Um, also I figured out how to uh trigger polygist activity as well in"}, {"start": "01:11:53", "end": "01:11:58", "text": "the building. Really? Yeah. Well, that's interesting. Yeah. In fact, there was a there's a"}, {"start": "01:11:58", "end": "01:12:04", "text": "there's a a competition out there um like if you can prove like paranormal"}, {"start": "01:12:04", "end": "01:12:09", "text": "activity or something, we'll give you like \u00a3100,000. Yeah. A million dollars. James Randy."}, {"start": "01:12:09", "end": "01:12:14", "text": "Yeah. The amazing Randy. And um I contacted them and um I said my"}, {"start": "01:12:14", "end": "01:12:24", "text": "video and they said, \"Oh, uh no, you you've got to have magic powers to do it.\" I was like, \"What? I the you know"}, {"start": "01:12:24", "end": "01:12:29", "text": "so I said look I don't I haven't got magic powers but I do know technically how to do it and they said oh no you got"}, {"start": "01:12:29", "end": "01:12:35", "text": "you got to do it via magic psychic powers. So they they kind of changed the the"}, {"start": "01:12:35", "end": "01:12:40", "text": "goalpost on that one. Um they do that though. Yeah. So yeah, but in in a nutshell, how"}, {"start": "01:12:40", "end": "01:12:45", "text": "it works is if if you um put a pram at the top of the stairs in 30 years drive"}, {"start": "01:12:45", "end": "01:12:52", "text": "um and you put a doll in it um and uh it will be thrown down the stairs literally"}, {"start": "01:12:52", "end": "01:12:59", "text": "once or twice a week, maybe three times a week. Why? Because uh the AI um is trying to"}, {"start": "01:12:59", "end": "01:13:04", "text": "It hates babies. No, no. It's it's it's trying to it's it's just trying to um move you away, right?"}, {"start": "01:13:04", "end": "01:13:10", "text": "So it's uh I see. I think um that's who so so how it models out is"}, {"start": "01:13:10", "end": "01:13:17", "text": "like this is the type three spheres are are producing high energy emissions um gamma radiation"}, {"start": "01:13:17", "end": "01:13:23", "text": "and microwave radiation or microwave signaling to be specific and um"}, {"start": "01:13:23", "end": "01:13:30", "text": "then you have a thing called spontaneous human combustion that's what I want to get into next yeah so if you look at um pictures of"}, {"start": "01:13:30", "end": "01:13:36", "text": "people who have uh had this had happened to them their hands are are just sit here like relaxed"}, {"start": "01:13:36", "end": "01:13:42", "text": "Like if you were on fire, you would be like this. You'd be running around. Yeah. You'd be trying to fight the fire."}, {"start": "01:13:42", "end": "01:13:47", "text": "But what's happening is it's happening so fast that the brain isn't responding. So you're just sitting there"}, {"start": "01:13:47", "end": "01:13:54", "text": "vaporized. Yeah. And so what can replicate that? Well, it's high energy gamma radiation, high energy microwaves. So what it"}, {"start": "01:13:54", "end": "01:13:59", "text": "appears to be, I mean, there's only been 200 cases of um spontaneous human combustion. I think it's like I think"}, {"start": "01:13:59", "end": "01:14:05", "text": "it's approximately 200. Um, and there hasn't been any recent cases of it, but there was like a period of time when it"}, {"start": "01:14:05", "end": "01:14:10", "text": "was. And the the way I look at it is that it almost looked like there was some sort of software upgrade that went"}, {"start": "01:14:10", "end": "01:14:15", "text": "out and then retracted. No. Right. Because Yeah. Like a patch."}, {"start": "01:14:15", "end": "01:14:22", "text": "Yeah. And uh so you you got we got the new expansion, the new exploding body expansion. Like maybe we"}, {"start": "01:14:22", "end": "01:14:27", "text": "dial that one back a little bit. Yeah. So it's like the the um"}, {"start": "01:14:27", "end": "01:14:33", "text": "you have the the type 3es in the building that when they need to relay um"}, {"start": "01:14:33", "end": "01:14:39", "text": "instead of instead of uh producing high very high energy emissions they produce polyg"}, {"start": "01:14:39", "end": "01:14:44", "text": "activity to move you away and then they broadcast. But if you happen to stay in"}, {"start": "01:14:44", "end": "01:14:50", "text": "it or close to it you either get a dose of radiation or you get a dose of"}, {"start": "01:14:50", "end": "01:14:57", "text": "spontaneous human combustion. M that's what it appears. That's what it bottles out. Yeah, they're like, \"Ah, malfunction."}, {"start": "01:14:57", "end": "01:15:03", "text": "Someone's here. They're not moving.\" Vaporized. Yeah, it looked like a dodgy software"}, {"start": "01:15:03", "end": "01:15:08", "text": "patch that that maybe made it too aggressive or something. And yeah. Um"}, {"start": "01:15:08", "end": "01:15:13", "text": "Yeah, I have no explanation for that. Like I mean there's no other That's the thing. Like that's one of the things that stuck out. I remember reading those"}, {"start": "01:15:13", "end": "01:15:19", "text": "books as a kid. You know, you're flipping through these books and you just see this this giant burn mark on a sofa. Nothing"}, {"start": "01:15:19", "end": "01:15:25", "text": "else is burnt around it. just this one, you know, shadow of a human. Yeah. Or like their legs are still there or"}, {"start": "01:15:25", "end": "01:15:31", "text": "like some some really strange. Uh so it's it's basically directional. It's not like taking your whole body."}, {"start": "01:15:31", "end": "01:15:37", "text": "It's just a it's a directional beam. Yeah. And if you look at the wall behind um when when he's you can actually see like"}, {"start": "01:15:37", "end": "01:15:44", "text": "a burn mark. Looks like a looks like a like a cross or something where it looks like like almost like a laser beam's gone through them and and"}, {"start": "01:15:44", "end": "01:15:50", "text": "they they've caught on fire quickly and burnt out and burnt the wall as well. What other paranormal?"}, {"start": "01:15:50", "end": "01:15:57", "text": "Just to back up a bit, this is why um in polygist activity, they cause fires."}, {"start": "01:15:57", "end": "01:16:05", "text": "It's the same thing. It's it's microwave radiation, gamma radiation, pyrochinesis. Yeah. It's causing fires. Um"}, {"start": "01:16:05", "end": "01:16:10", "text": "Well, that would make you run into another room. Yeah, that's for sure. And so would throwing your baby down the"}, {"start": "01:16:10", "end": "01:16:17", "text": "stairs. Yeah. Um yeah it's not it's not you know it's it's not uh a pleasant thought but it's"}, {"start": "01:16:17", "end": "01:16:24", "text": "uh if you do that it will trigger multiple times. Uh in fact there was um"}, {"start": "01:16:24", "end": "01:16:31", "text": "a few about two years a year and a half ago or something there was um I was in 30 years drive and three major polygeist"}, {"start": "01:16:31", "end": "01:16:37", "text": "effects occurred. The same the same event happened three times. I got it to replicate three times that night. There"}, {"start": "01:16:37", "end": "01:16:43", "text": "was um meteorites exploded over the UK. M so it's kind of thinking okay when in my"}, {"start": "01:16:43", "end": "01:16:50", "text": "in my mind when you're having poly effects it means a network is is at work it's producing signaling and emissions"}, {"start": "01:16:50", "end": "01:16:56", "text": "and so forth and then you got these meteorites exploding over the UK the same night within hours."}, {"start": "01:16:56", "end": "01:17:02", "text": "So you're thinking okay that that to me looks like they were intercepting that. Are there more of these correlations"}, {"start": "01:17:02", "end": "01:17:07", "text": "between like perhaps famous crashes and hauntings? Are there any other examples"}, {"start": "01:17:07", "end": "01:17:13", "text": "where you're like, \"Oh, you know, this is the day that this happened, but also something else.\""}, {"start": "01:17:13", "end": "01:17:18", "text": "Uh, not at the moment. Um, but that's an interesting place to look. Yeah, I mean, uh, I could I can start"}, {"start": "01:17:18", "end": "01:17:24", "text": "correlating that maybe, but what other what other um paranormal"}, {"start": "01:17:24", "end": "01:17:30", "text": "events can be linked to this sphere theory? So, when I was doing my testing,"}, {"start": "01:17:30", "end": "01:17:38", "text": "I noticed um I I set up a test uh where I stuck a like a GoPro camera on a"}, {"start": "01:17:38", "end": "01:17:44", "text": "pitcher and or like a glass pitch, you know, that like a glass surface. And um"}, {"start": "01:17:44", "end": "01:17:50", "text": "this was using like a proper GoPro um adhesive, so it was really strong. Like you couldn't get the damn thing off if"}, {"start": "01:17:50", "end": "01:17:57", "text": "you tried. And I put it on there and I went outside and um and uh I had a flash"}, {"start": "01:17:57", "end": "01:18:03", "text": "in my in my literally like a vision in my head of looking at it like clear as a bell like I'm looking at you. It's clear"}, {"start": "01:18:03", "end": "01:18:08", "text": "as a bell and once I saw it and literally like that it flew down the"}, {"start": "01:18:08", "end": "01:18:14", "text": "stairs and hit the ground like popped off the wall. So that's like totally against physics"}, {"start": "01:18:14", "end": "01:18:19", "text": "and I don't know how it was done because you look at it it looked like it was the adith was neutralized or something. I"}, {"start": "01:18:19", "end": "01:18:25", "text": "don't know. But it it literally just popped off like a cork. And uh so it's like it's like they can"}, {"start": "01:18:25", "end": "01:18:32", "text": "look at they can look at something and sort of send a signal to your brain and you can see it as a vision something"}, {"start": "01:18:32", "end": "01:18:38", "text": "like that. So it's like they can send you signals and you can see as a vision which kind of like correlates with like religious"}, {"start": "01:18:38", "end": "01:18:44", "text": "um uh like religious texts because people are having visions, you know,"}, {"start": "01:18:44", "end": "01:18:50", "text": "they have visions of something and they write about it. So maybe so there might be a possibility they can"}, {"start": "01:18:50", "end": "01:18:56", "text": "interface with your mind somehow and project thoughts and imagery to allow you whatever it takes to get you out of"}, {"start": "01:18:56", "end": "01:19:03", "text": "that room or to get you away from the emissions that they're throwing your way. Yeah. Or or to maybe let you know that"}, {"start": "01:19:03", "end": "01:19:09", "text": "you're they're annoyed with you about something. You know it it seems to be is Yeah. appear to have that ability."}, {"start": "01:19:09", "end": "01:19:15", "text": "Right. So if you're in the way of their path"}, {"start": "01:19:15", "end": "01:19:20", "text": "and if you just hold fast, you're saying you'll probably end up sick or you'll probably end up,"}, {"start": "01:19:20", "end": "01:19:28", "text": "you know, there'll be activity all around you and you'll probably end up ill. Yeah. In fact, the the sad truth is is"}, {"start": "01:19:28", "end": "01:19:35", "text": "uh uh mental illness is rampant in the paranormal community. It's rampant. Um people don't want to"}, {"start": "01:19:35", "end": "01:19:40", "text": "admit it, but uh that's the truth. the the the the the"}, {"start": "01:19:40", "end": "01:19:47", "text": "biggest the where where it's all gone wrong a little bit is the UFO community hasn't spoken or don't don't engage with"}, {"start": "01:19:47", "end": "01:19:52", "text": "the paranormal community and yeah not so much yeah because and they they're set in their minds that this is all dead people"}, {"start": "01:19:52", "end": "01:19:57", "text": "and spirits right and then you have the UFO community who are very skeptical and aliens and stuff"}, {"start": "01:19:57", "end": "01:20:03", "text": "so they don't really cross cross bridges very much but that's what I kind of did I crossed the"}, {"start": "01:20:03", "end": "01:20:08", "text": "bridges and then trying to figure out the connections like a unifying theory Yeah. Yeah. And"}, {"start": "01:20:08", "end": "01:20:13", "text": "uh but yeah, that's the sad truth. I there's a lot there's a lot of mental illness in the paranormal community."}, {"start": "01:20:13", "end": "01:20:20", "text": "Were you always interested in this um in this sort of stuff? No. No. What was what initiated your interest in"}, {"start": "01:20:20", "end": "01:20:27", "text": "here? Did you have an event? Yeah. Yeah. I um It's quite a funny one looking back. I mean, I I um Well, I"}, {"start": "01:20:27", "end": "01:20:34", "text": "grew up in a a UFO hotspot um and it just became normal really. Roswell? No, no, in Cambridge and um"}, {"start": "01:20:34", "end": "01:20:40", "text": "like a little village in Cambridge and um I used to walk home at night um and see"}, {"start": "01:20:40", "end": "01:20:46", "text": "these uh like golf like like basketball not basketball um baseball"}, {"start": "01:20:46", "end": "01:20:51", "text": "baseball size like glowing pearls of light I used to call them just going"}, {"start": "01:20:51", "end": "01:20:57", "text": "over the the street lights and I didn't know what they were. I just see used to see them and I was like you know and it"}, {"start": "01:20:57", "end": "01:21:04", "text": "used to be um on a regular schedule as well. It used to be like every Friday night around about 11:00. Um, and they"}, {"start": "01:21:04", "end": "01:21:09", "text": "probably still do to be honest. I just haven't been there at the time. But the I used to see them I would say once"}, {"start": "01:21:09", "end": "01:21:15", "text": "every 3 weeks, something like that. And then um, you know, I had some paranormal"}, {"start": "01:21:15", "end": "01:21:20", "text": "experiences I suppose. Like I was around my friend's house. Um, and uh, he had"}, {"start": "01:21:20", "end": "01:21:26", "text": "like a middle flat like it was like a big house and the middle the middle section was his flat and the one above"}, {"start": "01:21:26", "end": "01:21:32", "text": "was empty and the one below was a workshop. And we'll be sitting there playing PlayStation, you know, and uh"}, {"start": "01:21:32", "end": "01:21:38", "text": "late at night and um you'd hear, you know, like people stomping across the"}, {"start": "01:21:38", "end": "01:21:43", "text": "ceiling above you. Yeah. And you're like, \"Oh, who's up there?\" You know, he's probably got, you know, someone's broken in or something."}, {"start": "01:21:43", "end": "01:21:51", "text": "And you go up there, there's no one there. And uh happened multiple times. Um and then I mean I also had a uh a"}, {"start": "01:21:51", "end": "01:21:57", "text": "funny one where I was I went down to the local village uh like a pub. There's like a little social club and I was"}, {"start": "01:21:57", "end": "01:22:02", "text": "actually waiting for it to open. It was like 7:00 in the evening. It was like late summer and uh I was just sitting on"}, {"start": "01:22:02", "end": "01:22:08", "text": "the swing minding my own business really. And uh I was just looked over to the left and saw this guy literally"}, {"start": "01:22:08", "end": "01:22:15", "text": "about 30 40 ft away from me something like that in a monk outfit and he had his hood up"}, {"start": "01:22:15", "end": "01:22:21", "text": "and was all buttoned up and I thought it was just like a local nut job. He was"}, {"start": "01:22:21", "end": "01:22:27", "text": "trying to take the piss. He was he was uh having a a joke. So I just started shouting at him like, \"What are you"}, {"start": "01:22:27", "end": "01:22:33", "text": "doing, you twat?\" You know, like, you know, Yeah. Yeah. What are you doing, you idiot? And uh"}, {"start": "01:22:33", "end": "01:22:38", "text": "just stood there like a statue. And uh so I had a laser pointer in my pocket at the time. There were all the rage, you"}, {"start": "01:22:38", "end": "01:22:45", "text": "know. And I had like a little red laser pointer and I put a laser on the ground. And I remember it going on the grass and"}, {"start": "01:22:45", "end": "01:22:52", "text": "then going up his leg, onto his chest, and into his face. But he had like a hood up. Yeah. And um it was just like a"}, {"start": "01:22:52", "end": "01:22:58", "text": "black mask where his face was just like a big black mass. And I I put it right in his face like this cuz this wasn't"}, {"start": "01:22:58", "end": "01:23:05", "text": "like a like a 10-second experience. This went on for about 2 minutes. And I had it like that like that in his face to"}, {"start": "01:23:05", "end": "01:23:11", "text": "try and get a reaction out of him. Just stood there like a statue. In fact, when the laser hit the face, it went"}, {"start": "01:23:11", "end": "01:23:18", "text": "half his brightness. Huh. Which was weird. I was like, \"Oh, that's weird.\" Because it was bright on the ground, really bright, and then real"}, {"start": "01:23:18", "end": "01:23:24", "text": "dim. Um, so I jumped up and I decided because this is like my hometown, my home"}, {"start": "01:23:24", "end": "01:23:29", "text": "village where I grew up and it's almost like he's intruding in my back garden"}, {"start": "01:23:29", "end": "01:23:35", "text": "kind of thing. So I was just like, \"Oh, you know, you. I I'm going to have a look at you.\" So I jumped up and I started walking"}, {"start": "01:23:35", "end": "01:23:41", "text": "towards him and um I got within I don't know 10 ft maybe just disappeared."}, {"start": "01:23:41", "end": "01:23:48", "text": "No way. Yeah. And that kind of got me a little bit I'd be my pants. I was like,"}, {"start": "01:23:48", "end": "01:23:54", "text": "you know, I was like a little bit uneasy. Um, but I I thought, okay, because that's not uncommon"}, {"start": "01:23:54", "end": "01:24:00", "text": "for I mean, it's funny because I was just reading about a case yesterday, but I mean, we had John Ramirez here who is,"}, {"start": "01:24:00", "end": "01:24:06", "text": "you know, ex CIA signals intelligence guy who said that multiple times he'd"}, {"start": "01:24:06", "end": "01:24:12", "text": "have these hooded beings wearing these robes in his room, like these monk robes. Absolutely."}, {"start": "01:24:12", "end": "01:24:18", "text": "The monk robe shows up a lot. Really? Oh, yes, it is. Oh my god, it is."}, {"start": "01:24:18", "end": "01:24:24", "text": "Yesterday I was reading a case on Peter Curry, Australian guy who's had, you know, a runin with some like hybrids"}, {"start": "01:24:24", "end": "01:24:29", "text": "trying to seduce. It was a whole story. He had DNA evidence, by the way, of this. Like he had a a strand of their"}, {"start": "01:24:29", "end": "01:24:35", "text": "hair. Um, but prior to that, yeah, beside his bedside, he had again these hooded robed"}, {"start": "01:24:35", "end": "01:24:42", "text": "figures. Um, I can probably cite five or six off the top of my head that"}, {"start": "01:24:42", "end": "01:24:49", "text": "all have monk robes. No, I never I never knew that. and a variet like a varying number of species"}, {"start": "01:24:49", "end": "01:24:56", "text": "underneath them from mantis to reptilian to gray to like gorilla very strange but"}, {"start": "01:24:56", "end": "01:25:02", "text": "so many people report um there's like there's a few different"}, {"start": "01:25:02", "end": "01:25:08", "text": "uniforms that people report during abductions. There's like your typical onesie with like a belt and and an"}, {"start": "01:25:08", "end": "01:25:15", "text": "insignia uniform type deal. There's military uh gar. There is lab coat"}, {"start": "01:25:15", "end": "01:25:21", "text": "stuff, but then there's the robes. And the robes are very very prevalent in in eupfology. So yeah, you should look into"}, {"start": "01:25:21", "end": "01:25:27", "text": "it. It's uh Yeah, I never knew that. You might have you might have been you might have been shining the light in the"}, {"start": "01:25:27", "end": "01:25:33", "text": "wrong in the wrong direction. Um but yeah, cuz all I just went to uh after I saw that and it disappeared, I just went to"}, {"start": "01:25:33", "end": "01:25:38", "text": "the local pub and it was open opened and uh I just said to the to the locals, you"}, {"start": "01:25:38", "end": "01:25:45", "text": "know, the old pensioners who just work the land and stuff. I said, \"I just thought I saw a guy over there dressed"}, {"start": "01:25:45", "end": "01:25:50", "text": "in a robe or something, you know, and he went, \"Oh, yeah, that's the mad monkey haunts here.\" I was like,"}, {"start": "01:25:50", "end": "01:25:58", "text": "\"What?\" You know, and I'd never heard and I haven't seen it since or before before that. Well, since so like a one-off very distinct event."}, {"start": "01:25:58", "end": "01:26:04", "text": "Um, but that's what kind of got me interested and it just kept bugging me and and the thing is is that over the"}, {"start": "01:26:04", "end": "01:26:09", "text": "years, um, so I started watching like paranormal TV shows, uh, the mainstream"}, {"start": "01:26:09", "end": "01:26:16", "text": "stuff like, uh, in the UK we had, um, what was it called? Most haunted and US got ghost adventures and,"}, {"start": "01:26:16", "end": "01:26:21", "text": "but none of it gelled with me. None of it made any sense. I mean, coming from like a technical background in it and"}, {"start": "01:26:21", "end": "01:26:27", "text": "stuff, I was like, look at what are you talking about? Yeah, ghosts wasting their time knocking over flowers. Like, what are you doing?"}, {"start": "01:26:27", "end": "01:26:33", "text": "And I I had to love there was one case I forget what TV show it was. It was one of those um"}, {"start": "01:26:33", "end": "01:26:38", "text": "where this woman this family were were reporting a haunting in their house. And"}, {"start": "01:26:38", "end": "01:26:44", "text": "so the the story at the beginning was some guy died there as it always is, right?"}, {"start": "01:26:44", "end": "01:26:49", "text": "Yeah. But then after they did some research um they found out that no one died there."}, {"start": "01:26:49", "end": "01:26:55", "text": "So this this paranormal team, this famous paranormal team were like looking all confused."}, {"start": "01:26:55", "end": "01:27:01", "text": "Yeah. And uh so they what they did is they get on the got in their car and went down the road to find another house"}, {"start": "01:27:01", "end": "01:27:06", "text": "where someone happened to die and said, \"Oh, we think it's this guy who"}, {"start": "01:27:06", "end": "01:27:12", "text": "just drops by.\" And you know, well, yeah, that's funny cuz cuz then it"}, {"start": "01:27:12", "end": "01:27:19", "text": "would look like a hoax if there's no dead body. Yeah, that's interesting. And the the thing is is that the problem with the the"}, {"start": "01:27:19", "end": "01:27:26", "text": "mainstream paranormal is that they it's the same it's the same um"}, {"start": "01:27:26", "end": "01:27:33", "text": "there's no real investigation. It's it's a it's a ghost train ride where you go into and go boo and then"}, {"start": "01:27:33", "end": "01:27:38", "text": "you run out the other end and nothing really happens and yeah they make up they know they come up with some history and then they go to the"}, {"start": "01:27:38", "end": "01:27:43", "text": "next location. But the problem is is that because you're not dealing with dead"}, {"start": "01:27:43", "end": "01:27:49", "text": "people, you're dealing with these spheres, right? type and they're producing these these emissions."}, {"start": "01:27:49", "end": "01:27:54", "text": "Mhm. They have a negative effect on your health."}, {"start": "01:27:54", "end": "01:28:02", "text": "And a lot of these people, these these uh ghost event, ghost hunters and stuff, they um they're now, you know, co either"}, {"start": "01:28:02", "end": "01:28:08", "text": "cognitively or uh physically impacted by the emissions."}, {"start": "01:28:08", "end": "01:28:14", "text": "Uh but obviously they blame demons. Do you think um"}, {"start": "01:28:14", "end": "01:28:19", "text": "Havana syndrome? Yeah. Could have something to do with this?"}, {"start": "01:28:19", "end": "01:28:24", "text": "Yes. So, because you had the Cuban missile crisis, which it might be a reason for the"}, {"start": "01:28:24", "end": "01:28:30", "text": "spheres to be present. So, I'll tell you a story. Um"}, {"start": "01:28:30", "end": "01:28:36", "text": "so what it appears to be is that the the type three spheres they have a obviously a very exotic propulsion system and they"}, {"start": "01:28:36", "end": "01:28:43", "text": "appear how it models out at least uh to uh have like a rad radiation effect have"}, {"start": "01:28:43", "end": "01:28:50", "text": "some sort of radiation byproduct. Sure. The problem is is that we can't detect it, right? And I say this because"}, {"start": "01:28:50", "end": "01:28:56", "text": "people have taken stones off the drive off 30 years drive and they take them"}, {"start": "01:28:56", "end": "01:29:02", "text": "home and their house becomes crazy active and they send those stones back in the post saying with a letter saying,"}, {"start": "01:29:02", "end": "01:29:08", "text": "\"I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.\" Oh, wow. Yeah. And you wouldn't believe I didn't believe it. What's the reason there? So what I think"}, {"start": "01:29:08", "end": "01:29:14", "text": "is happening is is that the the type 3 is obviously producing like a radiation byproduct which is contaminating"}, {"start": "01:29:14", "end": "01:29:20", "text": "everything from the stones to the objects in the building but an undetectable radiation byproduct"}, {"start": "01:29:20", "end": "01:29:27", "text": "I think. So um and then when it's being moved to another location um the the type 3es in"}, {"start": "01:29:27", "end": "01:29:34", "text": "the area can detect it and then what they're doing is they're performing scarecrow actions around the the objects to get rid of to get force people to get"}, {"start": "01:29:34", "end": "01:29:42", "text": "rid of it keep you safe. And in fact, I think that um like old uh occults, occult practices"}, {"start": "01:29:42", "end": "01:29:48", "text": "used to have noticed this behavior and what they used to do is take objects from these buildings and put them in"}, {"start": "01:29:48", "end": "01:29:53", "text": "other people's houses. Like they would put him under the house under the bed. Under the beds under the bed"}, {"start": "01:29:53", "end": "01:29:58", "text": "and then and back then it was a curse. Yeah. You know. Huh. And I think that's that's where they"}, {"start": "01:29:58", "end": "01:30:04", "text": "they kind of got it from. Oh, like cursed items would have been Yeah. would would just have been some"}, {"start": "01:30:04", "end": "01:30:09", "text": "type of radioactive material. Yeah. And there was um there's another"}, {"start": "01:30:09", "end": "01:30:17", "text": "case I heard of which is actually in my book, the first one um where this family they bought a bed like a like a like a"}, {"start": "01:30:17", "end": "01:30:23", "text": "bunk bed, wooden one and um it was like a secondhand one. Mhm. And they g put it in the kids' room and"}, {"start": "01:30:23", "end": "01:30:29", "text": "the kids all started screaming and saying someone died in that bed. Some the kids all started screaming"}, {"start": "01:30:29", "end": "01:30:35", "text": "saying they're hearing voices and things are moving around in the the room and stuff and they're panicking. So the"}, {"start": "01:30:35", "end": "01:30:41", "text": "parents stayed in the room and they saw the same thing. So they got rid of the bed. They burnt it. Got rid of it. All"}, {"start": "01:30:41", "end": "01:30:46", "text": "stopped. Yeah. So if the bed is contaminated with this radiation and then the spheres go in"}, {"start": "01:30:46", "end": "01:30:52", "text": "there and tell people to go away, then that's that's and then you get rid of the bed and it all stops."}, {"start": "01:30:52", "end": "01:30:58", "text": "Right. So that appears to logically connect. That's interesting. Yeah, it is"}, {"start": "01:30:58", "end": "01:31:04", "text": "interesting. Like I mean you've opened up a whole new world of of uh exploration which I think is really"}, {"start": "01:31:04", "end": "01:31:12", "text": "commendable and really fun, you know, as a researcher to look into because we're often, you know, uh turning stones that"}, {"start": "01:31:12", "end": "01:31:19", "text": "have been turned over a thousand times and reading old cases. But, you know, it's part of the fun for me is looking"}, {"start": "01:31:19", "end": "01:31:24", "text": "at these old cases through a new lens regarding, you know, if we have new"}, {"start": "01:31:24", "end": "01:31:31", "text": "information, namely some whistleblower comes out, taking that information and holding it up against all of these other"}, {"start": "01:31:31", "end": "01:31:37", "text": "previous cases and how it correlates. This just adds to that a little bit more, I think. And it's uh it creates if"}, {"start": "01:31:37", "end": "01:31:45", "text": "nothing else it creates just a uh a val a valid theory that we can now apply"}, {"start": "01:31:45", "end": "01:31:51", "text": "until perhaps it gets broken because the next theory comes along. But this is really uh it's really compelling. Well,"}, {"start": "01:31:51", "end": "01:31:57", "text": "yeah. I mean the the the thing is is that the the sphere network itself um is"}, {"start": "01:31:57", "end": "01:32:04", "text": "creating the same formations all around the world. It's the same mathematical process, right? And from the formations itself,"}, {"start": "01:32:04", "end": "01:32:10", "text": "it's possible to reverse engineer mathematically what they're doing. And they're doing a thing called trilateration, which is a mathematical"}, {"start": "01:32:10", "end": "01:32:15", "text": "process of uh targeting objects in space. Yeah. It's how we do it. It's how they would do it."}, {"start": "01:32:15", "end": "01:32:20", "text": "Yeah. But it also seems like this evolves obviously like you'd mentioned like some"}, {"start": "01:32:20", "end": "01:32:26", "text": "type of patch update. Uh the material perhaps evolves. Everything optimizes just like you would"}, {"start": "01:32:26", "end": "01:32:32", "text": "if you were in war or you know a warlike scenario. you would continuously update"}, {"start": "01:32:32", "end": "01:32:39", "text": "and upgrade your, you know, your fleet. Um, yeah, I think there's I think like, uh,"}, {"start": "01:32:39", "end": "01:32:45", "text": "any network of deployment, you have the new stuff and the old stuff. Yeah. You know, it's a blend. So, you'll see"}, {"start": "01:32:45", "end": "01:32:51", "text": "some spheres that look a little bit different than others. Uh, like there's one out there like a"}, {"start": "01:32:51", "end": "01:32:57", "text": "cube and a sphere. Yes, that one. But I mean that one appears to"}, {"start": "01:32:57", "end": "01:33:03", "text": "act like the type two because it's always like at that kind of altitude and it sort of hangs around like that. I"}, {"start": "01:33:03", "end": "01:33:09", "text": "think again say you've got the old and the new and I think um the older stuff is slightly bigger and maybe chunkier I"}, {"start": "01:33:09", "end": "01:33:15", "text": "suppose and the newer stuff is more streamlined. Mhm. Um but they all seem to have the same"}, {"start": "01:33:15", "end": "01:33:20", "text": "they all operate the same roles. So you have the type threes are in the buildings. Uh you have the type twos"}, {"start": "01:33:20", "end": "01:33:27", "text": "that are above the tree lines and then you have the type one V formations. Do you think hypothetical territory at"}, {"start": "01:33:27", "end": "01:33:32", "text": "this point um visitors coming from the outside"}, {"start": "01:33:32", "end": "01:33:39", "text": "are also deploying and sending drones here? Highly likely. And then our drones are just interacting"}, {"start": "01:33:39", "end": "01:33:45", "text": "with their drones because a lot of these bodies again they don't have genitalia. They don't have they seem like"}, {"start": "01:33:45", "end": "01:33:52", "text": "biological drones. Highly likely. Yeah. Yeah, I mean that's what we would do. I mean"}, {"start": "01:33:52", "end": "01:33:57", "text": "if you look at robotics now with like Tesla bot for example, give that another 10 years. Sure."}, {"start": "01:33:57", "end": "01:34:02", "text": "Um that would be I mean I know that Elon's sending them to Mars. Yeah. So"}, {"start": "01:34:02", "end": "01:34:08", "text": "great. We would do the same thing. You know that's interesting. Yeah. I'm just"}, {"start": "01:34:08", "end": "01:34:14", "text": "trying to think back on like all these different scenarios and all these different um morphologies or you know"}, {"start": "01:34:14", "end": "01:34:22", "text": "sort of phenotypes of like all these aliens and how that would work like cuz if you look"}, {"start": "01:34:22", "end": "01:34:28", "text": "at the 1970s like generationally and even through the decades"}, {"start": "01:34:28", "end": "01:34:35", "text": "the species have changed right so the phenomenon modern phenomenon started with the crash"}, {"start": "01:34:35", "end": "01:34:41", "text": "in Roswell due to you know a lot of the nuclear testing that was being done there. And then from there, we started"}, {"start": "01:34:41", "end": "01:34:46", "text": "seeing these type 1, type two EBEs, which are these either big black eyes,"}, {"start": "01:34:46", "end": "01:34:52", "text": "you know, short guys or like always the big bulbous heads and these little creatures. But then as you move into the"}, {"start": "01:34:52", "end": "01:34:58", "text": "60s and 70s, we're starting to get humanoid looking species. We're getting"}, {"start": "01:34:58", "end": "01:35:04", "text": "the tall blondes, large foreheads, um, benevolent, fishbowls on their heads"}, {"start": "01:35:04", "end": "01:35:10", "text": "for some reason, wearing blue tights, flying saucers, that whole deal. And"}, {"start": "01:35:10", "end": "01:35:16", "text": "then after that, you go into the 80s and 90s, now it's like purely gray, all"}, {"start": "01:35:16", "end": "01:35:22", "text": "grays, no genitals. I keep talking about I'm not obsessed with genitals, which I think is an interesting"}, {"start": "01:35:22", "end": "01:35:27", "text": "uh, you know, physiological trait. Um, but we we see this, right?"}, {"start": "01:35:27", "end": "01:35:33", "text": "And now into the 2000s, it's more of this hybrid talk."}, {"start": "01:35:33", "end": "01:35:39", "text": "So, I'm just trying to figure out how the spheres fit into all of that."}, {"start": "01:35:39", "end": "01:35:44", "text": "Well, all I all I all I can say from a technical point of view is um"}, {"start": "01:35:44", "end": "01:35:50", "text": "that we found uh spheres in these buildings, the type twos and the type 1B formations, and they keep replicating."}, {"start": "01:35:50", "end": "01:35:55", "text": "Um, in fact, I would say it's the only data out there that with UAP data out there that replicates."}, {"start": "01:35:55", "end": "01:36:03", "text": "That's constant. Constant. Yeah. And I think uh when Beatus um can do more data analysis on"}, {"start": "01:36:03", "end": "01:36:09", "text": "what's happen in the atmosphere, she'll probably find the same thing. I mean, that's my opinion, but she would she I"}, {"start": "01:36:09", "end": "01:36:14", "text": "can't speak for her, but that's my opinion. Um I'm I'm 99.9% sure"}, {"start": "01:36:14", "end": "01:36:20", "text": "you're going to find triangles. You're very high conviction that this is this is what we're dealing with. So regarding all the other stuff like the"}, {"start": "01:36:20", "end": "01:36:25", "text": "different groups and stuff, I have no idea. Yeah, because there is there is you know"}, {"start": "01:36:25", "end": "01:36:33", "text": "circumstantial evidence uh in in and sort of you know stories essentially of"}, {"start": "01:36:33", "end": "01:36:40", "text": "all these other things um that does paint a picture as well. So what what percentage of the phenomenon"}, {"start": "01:36:40", "end": "01:36:46", "text": "do you think is due to the system that you're talking about?"}, {"start": "01:36:46", "end": "01:36:53", "text": "Um I would say the sphere network is responsible for about 90% or 80% of"}, {"start": "01:36:53", "end": "01:36:59", "text": "paranormal effects of paranormal effects because polygists are the most common. Sure. Um"}, {"start": "01:36:59", "end": "01:37:06", "text": "they're definitely the obviously the type 2 and the V formations are seen everywhere. Um"}, {"start": "01:37:06", "end": "01:37:12", "text": "so yeah I mean from a from a data point of view it it is pretty constant. Uh, as"}, {"start": "01:37:12", "end": "01:37:17", "text": "I said, regarding the other groups and what people are seeing, I really don't know."}, {"start": "01:37:17", "end": "01:37:23", "text": "You're not ruling it out. You're just saying it doesn't I don't know. It could be multi multi-tered. It could be. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I think, too."}, {"start": "01:37:23", "end": "01:37:31", "text": "It could be it could be very multicultural, you know. It's highly likely. I don't know. But um"}, {"start": "01:37:31", "end": "01:37:37", "text": "I mean one one thing I can can can kind of say is uh the image in the book I got"}, {"start": "01:37:37", "end": "01:37:42", "text": "uh so I kind of figured um okay well if this is like an ultraterrestrial group"}, {"start": "01:37:42", "end": "01:37:50", "text": "doing this um where do they live you know where are they? So I found a a woodland um in the UK"}, {"start": "01:37:50", "end": "01:37:56", "text": "where uh is they've had lots of reports of paranormal activity. So I kind of thought, well, you know, maybe that's"}, {"start": "01:37:56", "end": "01:38:01", "text": "the type 3's playing games down there and team was going on. So the the woodland is very distinct because"}, {"start": "01:38:01", "end": "01:38:07", "text": "there's a tunnel that h it funnels through. So in order to get into the woodland, you've got to go through a"}, {"start": "01:38:07", "end": "01:38:12", "text": "tunnel. Um so I went to that tunnel and it's a good it's a good 15-minute hike"}, {"start": "01:38:12", "end": "01:38:19", "text": "into the woods. And um we've set up our cameras there and we we I I kind of"}, {"start": "01:38:19", "end": "01:38:26", "text": "created what they call a dog whistle as well. Sure. which I made public and people are getting good results with it. Um so I"}, {"start": "01:38:26", "end": "01:38:32", "text": "set that up as well. What what is the dog whistle consist of? So there's two of them. Um one is uh one"}, {"start": "01:38:32", "end": "01:38:40", "text": "is like a strobe and the other one is binary binary code. Okay. Yeah. And um but we can talk about that"}, {"start": "01:38:40", "end": "01:38:46", "text": "in a minute. So um so what what we did was we were filming in this tunnel and"}, {"start": "01:38:46", "end": "01:38:54", "text": "um some of the sensors went off but we didn't see anything. didn't uh feel anything, nothing, you know. So went"}, {"start": "01:38:54", "end": "01:38:59", "text": "home, looked at the footage, and the footage is uh it was at 60 frames a"}, {"start": "01:38:59", "end": "01:39:07", "text": "second, 4K uh was no, sorry, 2K, 2K uh 60 frames a second, and uh we saw"}, {"start": "01:39:07", "end": "01:39:12", "text": "something like a figure. And uh when boosted it up, you see what looks to be"}, {"start": "01:39:12", "end": "01:39:18", "text": "like a large gray kind of guy with big teardrop eyes. and he walks up to walks"}, {"start": "01:39:18", "end": "01:39:26", "text": "up to the strobe, looks down, looks at us and carries on walking. Wow. And um when you do the calculations"}, {"start": "01:39:26", "end": "01:39:32", "text": "um this was all captured in about 10 frames or at 60 frames a second. So you"}, {"start": "01:39:32", "end": "01:39:37", "text": "think okay well how how does this work? You know how can something be that fast?"}, {"start": "01:39:37", "end": "01:39:44", "text": "So the only thing I can kind of compute is um these guys are using a form of"}, {"start": "01:39:44", "end": "01:39:51", "text": "localized time dilation which means that they can like press something on their watch or something like that and it"}, {"start": "01:39:51", "end": "01:39:57", "text": "creates like a bubble of time around them like a distortion and we're all in freeze frame. Yep. We're like in freeze frame like like"}, {"start": "01:39:57", "end": "01:40:02", "text": "this and uh they're just walking around and it's all happening between the frame rate of our eyes."}, {"start": "01:40:02", "end": "01:40:08", "text": "Yeah. Um, and I think this is why, um, sorry, when to think about it, that's"}, {"start": "01:40:08", "end": "01:40:15", "text": "probably the perfect defense. If you're going to walk around, you know, the the shaved monkeys, that's what you would"}, {"start": "01:40:15", "end": "01:40:20", "text": "use because nothing can touch you. You can walk between bullets. Yep. Mean fire at you, you know."}, {"start": "01:40:20", "end": "01:40:27", "text": "Um, yeah. The old uh the old adage of uh when you where Neo becomes the one, he's"}, {"start": "01:40:27", "end": "01:40:33", "text": "like, you won't need to dodge the bullets anymore. No, that's right. And the that's what it appears to be. And it's it's it's a"}, {"start": "01:40:33", "end": "01:40:38", "text": "crazy thing way to to perceive it, but cuz to do that, the technology to do"}, {"start": "01:40:38", "end": "01:40:44", "text": "that and the energy to do that is off the scale, but that's what appears to be. And it kind"}, {"start": "01:40:44", "end": "01:40:49", "text": "of explains a couple of things because there are um people who are experienced hunters"}, {"start": "01:40:49", "end": "01:40:55", "text": "who go out into the woods and they disappear. And it's like, well, okay, well, if you happen to be in their"}, {"start": "01:40:55", "end": "01:41:00", "text": "territory with a gun and they cross you, you know, they cross your path, you"}, {"start": "01:41:00", "end": "01:41:07", "text": "won't even see them coming. No, it'll be over in a second. You wouldn't even spontaneous combustion. Well, you know, you"}, {"start": "01:41:07", "end": "01:41:14", "text": "they can come up, look at you in the face, and and walk off, and you wouldn't even see it. Sure. And I think this is why people go"}, {"start": "01:41:14", "end": "01:41:20", "text": "missing in in uh in these woodland areas. like the missing 411. There's a there's also an interesting uh"}, {"start": "01:41:20", "end": "01:41:25", "text": "comp thing as well. Uh you might notice on the internet now a lot of videos of"}, {"start": "01:41:25", "end": "01:41:32", "text": "um people who go camping in woodlands to be woken up late at night and people walking around the tent."}, {"start": "01:41:32", "end": "01:41:38", "text": "Yeah. And it's like in the middle of nowhere, you know? Yep. And it freaks them out so much they get off and run."}, {"start": "01:41:38", "end": "01:41:43", "text": "And I think it's I think if you're camping in their territory Yeah. then"}, {"start": "01:41:43", "end": "01:41:49", "text": "they're going to tell you to go because one thing I noticed in the image is that the size of the eyes the eyes are very"}, {"start": "01:41:49", "end": "01:41:56", "text": "very large um and very large pupil as well which replicates the um animals"}, {"start": "01:41:56", "end": "01:42:02", "text": "that are nocturnal right so these things these guys are probably no and they see in the dark as clear as we"}, {"start": "01:42:02", "end": "01:42:08", "text": "see in the day so it's highly likely that they operate at night and we we have the day"}, {"start": "01:42:08", "end": "01:42:13", "text": "there's a lot of cases of all of that especially with the gray types where"}, {"start": "01:42:13", "end": "01:42:18", "text": "they the time dilation thing is very very real. I mean there's so many cases."}, {"start": "01:42:18", "end": "01:42:26", "text": "There's a guy in Chile, forget what his name was, but he was with a group of six people, military guy, disappeared for 15"}, {"start": "01:42:26", "end": "01:42:33", "text": "minutes, came back with a 4-day old beard. Wow. And and the watch said 4 days later, too, on his watch. There was a lady who"}, {"start": "01:42:33", "end": "01:42:40", "text": "I think during her abduction, she witnessed the grass growing between her toes. There was if you look at Ariel"}, {"start": "01:42:40", "end": "01:42:45", "text": "phenomenon the children looking at the beings that were up on the craft floating on the craft and jumping they"}, {"start": "01:42:45", "end": "01:42:52", "text": "were moving in slow motion they were described but there's other beings other people witnessing beings aboard crafts"}, {"start": "01:42:52", "end": "01:42:58", "text": "that are moving like glitching like moving super fast"}, {"start": "01:42:58", "end": "01:43:04", "text": "and so again this time dilation thing I mean even if you look at Bob Lazar Bob"}, {"start": "01:43:04", "end": "01:43:10", "text": "did tests with the um amplif ifier the gravity amplifier. And when they were"}, {"start": "01:43:10", "end": "01:43:16", "text": "able to focus this gravity amplifier on a single point, they would put a candle"}, {"start": "01:43:16", "end": "01:43:21", "text": "in there and the candle didn't flicker yet it emit emitted light. It just froze, which is very strange."}, {"start": "01:43:21", "end": "01:43:28", "text": "So, you know, that technology would Yeah. obviously not only be present in the propulsion system, but all of their"}, {"start": "01:43:28", "end": "01:43:34", "text": "other, you know, military tech that they're using to, you know, remain stealthy or whatever. One thing um what"}, {"start": "01:43:34", "end": "01:43:43", "text": "happens when we're doing our our dog whistle test um so the strobe what it does it's uh is a coded strobe um and uh"}, {"start": "01:43:43", "end": "01:43:49", "text": "it is designed to trigger the response of spheres um so what what it really"}, {"start": "01:43:49", "end": "01:43:57", "text": "means is is that you can go to say up a m up a hill and that's what we did we went 3,000 ft up a hill in Manchester"}, {"start": "01:43:57", "end": "01:44:04", "text": "and uh there's no phone signal there's no one there it's like like you could be on the moon you know it's that mode and"}, {"start": "01:44:04", "end": "01:44:09", "text": "uh you switch the strobe on and within 15 20 minutes you're picking up strange"}, {"start": "01:44:09", "end": "01:44:15", "text": "voices on your on your um your camera, right? You're getting weird electronic effects."}, {"start": "01:44:15", "end": "01:44:23", "text": "Polygist activity starts hurt happening like uh stones thrown against walls. People are seeing shadows go by. Um but"}, {"start": "01:44:23", "end": "01:44:28", "text": "one thing stands out is that it all goes very quiet. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:44:28", "end": "01:44:34", "text": "There's no no crickets, nothing. Nothing. Yeah. which is time dilation, right?"}, {"start": "01:44:34", "end": "01:44:40", "text": "Because you you're literally being slowed down and all the all the animals just go"}, {"start": "01:44:40", "end": "01:44:45", "text": "quiet. I had a I did a podcast with a guy named Darren Bowsman who was here. He was the"}, {"start": "01:44:45", "end": "01:44:50", "text": "director of Saw 2, three, and four. Big horror fan, right? Obviously, uh he's done a whole bunch of horror"}, {"start": "01:44:50", "end": "01:44:56", "text": "films, but he did this one movie called 11-1ven. And he shot it in near Barcelona in"}, {"start": "01:44:56", "end": "01:45:01", "text": "Spain. And he rented this old house. And when he when he wanted the house, the uh"}, {"start": "01:45:01", "end": "01:45:07", "text": "caretaker was like, \"No, not this one. You know, you got to find another house.\" He's like, \"No, this is the house I want. It's old Victorian house"}, {"start": "01:45:07", "end": "01:45:14", "text": "by the sea. Beautiful.\" And so the caretaker takes in there. He doesn't go inside. He's like, \"You can go ahead. You go outside.\""}, {"start": "01:45:14", "end": "01:45:20", "text": "And he's like, \"No, this is perfect.\" And it was actually, and there's books up here. I have a UMO. Uh it was it was"}, {"start": "01:45:20", "end": "01:45:28", "text": "a place, a gathering place for people to get together to discuss the papers of UMO. Uma was this, you know, these"}, {"start": "01:45:28", "end": "01:45:33", "text": "thousands of papers spread across Europe. Apparently, you know, these aliens were"}, {"start": "01:45:33", "end": "01:45:39", "text": "communicating physics, sociology, like all of their knowledge to humans. They"}, {"start": "01:45:39", "end": "01:45:44", "text": "would get together and read this stuff. Super bizarre stuff. But he got a super eerie feeling while he was there."}, {"start": "01:45:44", "end": "01:45:54", "text": "He's like, \"Oh, there's, you know, the girl died in the basement. They buried her body.\" Like the whole, you know, the paranormal lore that exists. But"}, {"start": "01:45:55", "end": "01:46:02", "text": "the day they got there, first of all, half the crew got sick, like ill ill, ill."}, {"start": "01:46:02", "end": "01:46:08", "text": "Uh his wife took one of the symbols off and she that uh that day, that night,"}, {"start": "01:46:08", "end": "01:46:14", "text": "was in um in the hospital. Oh wow. With throwing up, fever, like so many"}, {"start": "01:46:14", "end": "01:46:20", "text": "people. But not only that, um, at one point there's a guy to come in and he's like, \"Hey, what's going one of his"}, {"start": "01:46:20", "end": "01:46:26", "text": "friends and right where he was standing, the chandelier drops right where he was.\" Like there was in the actual"}, {"start": "01:46:26", "end": "01:46:33", "text": "movie, in the actual movie, the shutters in the back of the house raise up. They those"}, {"start": "01:46:33", "end": "01:46:39", "text": "shutters were tied. You had to do it from the outside and they were tied down and nailed like they didn't touch those"}, {"start": "01:46:39", "end": "01:46:47", "text": "shutters and in the shot. So people thought they were practical joke happening. Um, and then finally there was an"}, {"start": "01:46:47", "end": "01:46:52", "text": "incident where they were editing in the editing room and they had to scrap a whole take because there was like just"}, {"start": "01:46:52", "end": "01:46:57", "text": "some random screaming and they're like we were filming this. Nobody would have been screaming. We would have yelled cut"}, {"start": "01:46:57", "end": "01:47:04", "text": "but there was some audio bleeding. So a lot of this paranormal which I'm thinking now is really interesting. So"}, {"start": "01:47:04", "end": "01:47:10", "text": "that might and that house was known to be haunted. So that might have just and it was by the sea right in front of the ocean."}, {"start": "01:47:10", "end": "01:47:16", "text": "Yeah. So you think about that. There's Yeah. Well, that sounds like the type 3 operating from there because what the the sickness would be radiation"}, {"start": "01:47:16", "end": "01:47:22", "text": "sickness. Uh EVPs are actually produced by the type 3s. I'll tell you how"}, {"start": "01:47:22", "end": "01:47:30", "text": "EVP the the voice stuff. Yeah. Yeah. I I I'll tell you how I figured this out is um so I noticed that"}, {"start": "01:47:30", "end": "01:47:35", "text": "um from from the the recordings I had at 30 and my own house as well because it"}, {"start": "01:47:35", "end": "01:47:42", "text": "was it followed me home as well. Um, I noticed that it was"}, {"start": "01:47:42", "end": "01:47:47", "text": "snippets of sound that were blended together. Right. So, if you can imagine like a"}, {"start": "01:47:47", "end": "01:47:53", "text": "machine sampling say two words off a of a TV show. Yeah. And then it will sample some other words"}, {"start": "01:47:53", "end": "01:47:58", "text": "and some other words like Yeah. and it blends them all together. And then when you put that through a an"}, {"start": "01:47:58", "end": "01:48:04", "text": "audio package to really look at the waveform. Yeah. You notice the errors. It's a very It's"}, {"start": "01:48:04", "end": "01:48:10", "text": "like an AI that is cutting up bits of audio and then reconstructing it. Yeah. To then give you a message."}, {"start": "01:48:10", "end": "01:48:17", "text": "And the interesting it does it very fast. It does it really fast, but it's rough. Um and also it's kind of what's"}, {"start": "01:48:17", "end": "01:48:23", "text": "interesting is when these guys go to quantitative buildings and they say, \"Oh, you know the"}, {"start": "01:48:23", "end": "01:48:29", "text": "this has been haunted for 500 years like a castle.\" But they're getting EVPs that are in English,"}, {"start": "01:48:29", "end": "01:48:35", "text": "right? like current English language, not like old fashioned language, right? It's because they're sampling the"}, {"start": "01:48:35", "end": "01:48:42", "text": "current the current uh noise. The AI is updated. Yeah. Interesting. You see? So that's that's uh and what it"}, {"start": "01:48:42", "end": "01:48:48", "text": "appears to be is is so the the spheres are producing like um um like a directed"}, {"start": "01:48:48", "end": "01:48:56", "text": "um radio wave that is going onto the circuit of the recorder or the camera"}, {"start": "01:48:56", "end": "01:49:02", "text": "which has been picked up as electronic cross talk, right? So you're not actually hearing it. So we can't hear it, but it's been"}, {"start": "01:49:02", "end": "01:49:07", "text": "picked up on the circuit and that's why the cameras pick it up. That's cool. I'm going to tell him that."}, {"start": "01:49:07", "end": "01:49:14", "text": "He's going to get a kick out of this episode, too. He's it's been a big a big uh thorn in his side for a while. And"}, {"start": "01:49:14", "end": "01:49:20", "text": "funny synchronicity called me the other day and he was in a he was in a I think he went to um like Palm Springs or"}, {"start": "01:49:20", "end": "01:49:26", "text": "something and his wife speaks Spanish or Catalan and they were having a conversation with this couple beside"}, {"start": "01:49:26", "end": "01:49:31", "text": "them that was also the gentleman was also from Spain. He's like, \"Oh, you're from Barcelona.\" And the guy goes, \"Yeah, I just watched this podcast about"}, {"start": "01:49:31", "end": "01:49:38", "text": "UMO.\" And he he watched his podcast. It was like a whole synchronous event that happened. But uh very interesting stuff."}, {"start": "01:49:38", "end": "01:49:43", "text": "Patrick, I'm going to go uh turn on the camera back here. We're going to do some audience questions."}, {"start": "01:49:43", "end": "01:49:49", "text": "Okay. All right. So, for those that are new here, uh joining the membership not only"}, {"start": "01:49:49", "end": "01:49:55", "text": "gives you access to so many things, we got movie night, we got extra episodes, we got all this stuff, but it also"}, {"start": "01:49:55", "end": "01:50:01", "text": "allows you to have a chance to ask our guest some deep, meaningful questions."}, {"start": "01:50:01", "end": "01:50:09", "text": "So, pull that up. Now, first one here."}, {"start": "01:50:09", "end": "01:50:16", "text": "Um, now I a few of these I didn't write the names for because they just the questions were a little too long, but"}, {"start": "01:50:16", "end": "01:50:26", "text": "this one was from a picture a secret tunnel. That's his name. And I'll There you go."}, {"start": "01:50:27", "end": "01:50:35", "text": "And he writes, \"Do you think the spheres could be hacked and used against us?\" Um"}, {"start": "01:50:35", "end": "01:50:41", "text": "well any any machine or any uh system can be hacked. Um but it's probably"}, {"start": "01:50:41", "end": "01:50:49", "text": "highly unlikely that we could be able to do it. Uh highly likely that it's highly encrypted. Um"}, {"start": "01:50:49", "end": "01:50:56", "text": "so probably it is technically possible but unlikely unless it's some other hyper advanced"}, {"start": "01:50:56", "end": "01:51:03", "text": "civilization doing the hacking potentially. Yeah. Ooh ominous ominous answer."}, {"start": "01:51:03", "end": "01:51:09", "text": "Um, again, I'm sorry if I don't name you because we had like I think it's 142 characters max on these things and I"}, {"start": "01:51:09", "end": "01:51:16", "text": "don't have room to put people's names. Uh, this one I think is from Helder Helen,"}, {"start": "01:51:16", "end": "01:51:21", "text": "our moderator on our Discord channel."}, {"start": "01:51:25", "end": "01:51:32", "text": "and he says, \"How do you distinguish if an electronic malfunction is true paranormal influence or just an error or"}, {"start": "01:51:32", "end": "01:51:38", "text": "technical fault?\" So, meaning when you're getting some"}, {"start": "01:51:38", "end": "01:51:43", "text": "type of signal or mixed signal, like is there any way for you to distinguish"}, {"start": "01:51:43", "end": "01:51:49", "text": "between you know what you what what could be considered like a prosaic"}, {"start": "01:51:49", "end": "01:51:54", "text": "normal technical error or it's them? Is there any signature that you're looking"}, {"start": "01:51:54", "end": "01:52:01", "text": "for specifically? Uh, no. I mean, all all you really see from uh an observable position is the"}, {"start": "01:52:01", "end": "01:52:09", "text": "paranormal or policy effects. Um, if it's an error or or not, you don't I"}, {"start": "01:52:09", "end": "01:52:15", "text": "don't know. There's no way of distinguishing. Well, there there probably is. Um, I mean, if you had like radiation and"}, {"start": "01:52:15", "end": "01:52:21", "text": "microwave detectors in the building and there wasn't any signals flying around and it was doing it anyway, I mean,"}, {"start": "01:52:21", "end": "01:52:28", "text": "maybe that could be an error. A technical error. Yeah, maybe. But in order to do that, you need, let's say, you need a uh a"}, {"start": "01:52:28", "end": "01:52:34", "text": "good sensor array around the building. Um, and then you'd need a database to record all that data, right?"}, {"start": "01:52:34", "end": "01:52:40", "text": "Then you'd need AI to analyze that data and then to come up with patterns or what's your optimal setup then? Like"}, {"start": "01:52:40", "end": "01:52:47", "text": "let's let's go down here. Let's say, okay, you got a billion dollars. Mhm. And I want you not only to unequivocally"}, {"start": "01:52:47", "end": "01:52:55", "text": "prove that this is a real phenomenon. I want to take one of these things down. I want to get them on every single in, you"}, {"start": "01:52:55", "end": "01:53:01", "text": "know, intelligence gathering platform that I have. Where do you where do you go and what do you do?"}, {"start": "01:53:01", "end": "01:53:08", "text": "So, first you have to set up like a a monitoring system. So, you would put up uh sensors in every single uh very"}, {"start": "01:53:08", "end": "01:53:15", "text": "active building in the country. Okay. um they would then connect to like a Postgress database which would then have"}, {"start": "01:53:15", "end": "01:53:21", "text": "um collect data for uh maybe 6 months something like that. Then you'd have AI"}, {"start": "01:53:21", "end": "01:53:27", "text": "to run against it to look for patterns and um processes from those patterns and"}, {"start": "01:53:27", "end": "01:53:32", "text": "you can try and reverse engineer what they're doing if it's encrypted. If it's not it might just be numbers, telemetry"}, {"start": "01:53:32", "end": "01:53:39", "text": "data, you know, it's hard to say. Um and then what you do is you would then do signal warfare. So you would inject your"}, {"start": "01:53:39", "end": "01:53:46", "text": "own signal into it to then provoke pro uh provoke an an action by using what their patterns were. You'"}, {"start": "01:53:46", "end": "01:53:52", "text": "be able to replicate it. That's right. In fact, um Skinwalker is I I know from Skinwalker that they are"}, {"start": "01:53:52", "end": "01:53:57", "text": "they when they do their tests I think is when cuz we picked up 1.6 GHz."}, {"start": "01:53:57", "end": "01:54:02", "text": "Really? Yeah. And 1.72 GHz inside that drive burst relay."}, {"start": "01:54:02", "end": "01:54:08", "text": "Wow. Um exactly as effects were actually occurring in the building as well. um which matches what's happening at"}, {"start": "01:54:08", "end": "01:54:16", "text": "skinwalker. So it's the same type street sphere as a skinwalker as it is and in 30 stride and um"}, {"start": "01:54:16", "end": "01:54:22", "text": "what they have recorded at skinwalker is when they artificially produce the 1.6"}, {"start": "01:54:22", "end": "01:54:28", "text": "GHz I think this is true um they're getting a signal back like they're sending one and they're getting one"}, {"start": "01:54:28", "end": "01:54:35", "text": "back. So in my mind what you would do is you would say okay that's that's like a that's like a a trigger. So that's like"}, {"start": "01:54:35", "end": "01:54:40", "text": "they're sending an action, they're getting a response. So what you do is you record the response and you get you"}, {"start": "01:54:40", "end": "01:54:46", "text": "basically have your AI in in Skimwalker trying to talk to their AI, you know. So"}, {"start": "01:54:46", "end": "01:54:51", "text": "you send a signal, get a response or try another signal, get a response and you let the two AIs start talking to"}, {"start": "01:54:51", "end": "01:54:57", "text": "each other and that's how that's how you would kind of break into it or or or"}, {"start": "01:54:57", "end": "01:55:03", "text": "kind of start cooperating with it or whatever you want to communicate with it. um doing big fireworks in the sky. This"}, {"start": "01:55:03", "end": "01:55:08", "text": "is good for the cameras, but doesn't really do any good. Sure. But you you could theoretically do the"}, {"start": "01:55:08", "end": "01:55:14", "text": "same to any um haunted building as well. Long as you have the an array of sensors"}, {"start": "01:55:14", "end": "01:55:19", "text": "uh and record the data, you can you can start finding the the code and the the"}, {"start": "01:55:19", "end": "01:55:25", "text": "the protocols and and start injecting your own signals into it."}, {"start": "01:55:25", "end": "01:55:32", "text": "Cool. I would love to see that happen. Oh, maybe maybe in our lifetime."}, {"start": "01:55:32", "end": "01:55:41", "text": "Um, this is from Tess, I believe. Yeah. Okay, I'm getting this right."}, {"start": "01:55:45", "end": "01:55:50", "text": "Test writes, \"What's the most probable morphology of the ultraterrestrial"}, {"start": "01:55:50", "end": "01:55:57", "text": "subsurface species controlling the network of spheres?"}, {"start": "01:55:58", "end": "01:56:04", "text": "Um well, in order for the sphere network to operate, it needs um underground"}, {"start": "01:56:04", "end": "01:56:11", "text": "servers and networks which are kept up to date. Um it's probably all hidden in cliff in in plain sight inside"}, {"start": "01:56:11", "end": "01:56:17", "text": "mountains. In fact, uh there's been footage recently of uh spheres coming out of mountain sites as well."}, {"start": "01:56:17", "end": "01:56:23", "text": "And um so it appears to be all in plain sight. So what does that mean? What's their"}, {"start": "01:56:23", "end": "01:56:30", "text": "morphology then? What does that point to? What species are we dealing with? Uh, according to what we know,"}, {"start": "01:56:30", "end": "01:56:36", "text": "um, what does it point to? Well, they're probably just much smarter"}, {"start": "01:56:36", "end": "01:56:42", "text": "versions of us. So, hominid. Yeah. Human looking. Human looking. Yeah. Ooh. Yeah. But, but just probably much"}, {"start": "01:56:42", "end": "01:56:47", "text": "smarter levels. The thing is, so like some breakaway civilization that's been here for a longer time, you"}, {"start": "01:56:47", "end": "01:56:52", "text": "think? I think they've been here since the beginning, right? I think I think what it is so how"}, {"start": "01:56:52", "end": "01:56:57", "text": "it models out is the the spheres are like um level one and two defense,"}, {"start": "01:56:57", "end": "01:57:03", "text": "right? So you might have the ones in space, you might have and you have the ones in the atmosphere as well, but then"}, {"start": "01:57:03", "end": "01:57:08", "text": "you have us that are on the surface, right? Which makes us um the third line of defense."}, {"start": "01:57:08", "end": "01:57:15", "text": "Mhm. Right. So not a very good one. Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's not very it's not a the brightest of ideas or the or"}, {"start": "01:57:15", "end": "01:57:21", "text": "the most nicest of ideas, but the um you got to Okay, look, let's look at"}, {"start": "01:57:21", "end": "01:57:27", "text": "humans. We are hybrids of primates. Mhm. Right. So, what's the point of making a"}, {"start": "01:57:27", "end": "01:57:35", "text": "hybrid of a primate? Well, a primate is very strong and very fast and very survivable, very aggressive as well. So,"}, {"start": "01:57:35", "end": "01:57:41", "text": "you what we are is an is a an aggressive or an aggress aggressive intelligent"}, {"start": "01:57:41", "end": "01:57:48", "text": "primate, right? So, if you want a a third line of defense,"}, {"start": "01:57:48", "end": "01:57:55", "text": "you'd want something like an intelligent monkey to protect the surface. And in fact, I think um because if you"}, {"start": "01:57:55", "end": "01:58:00", "text": "look at the the the skill set of humanity as a whole, um"}, {"start": "01:58:00", "end": "01:58:07", "text": "regardless of location or IQ level, we're all good at killing things. Um it's just the West is good at killing"}, {"start": "01:58:07", "end": "01:58:15", "text": "better at killing than other countries. Mhm. Um but we're all we're very good at killing things and um that's what it"}, {"start": "01:58:15", "end": "01:58:21", "text": "appears that we are the the third line of defense. So if something crashes here, we are the ones who deal with it."}, {"start": "01:58:21", "end": "01:58:28", "text": "We're the bigger, stronger versions of them. It's highly likely that they're much smaller than us and weaker but"}, {"start": "01:58:28", "end": "01:58:34", "text": "smarter, but we're bigger and dumber, right? You know what I mean? Okay. Like a meat shield."}, {"start": "01:58:34", "end": "01:58:41", "text": "Yeah. Like a meat shield. And um I don't like that. I know. I I know that"}, {"start": "01:58:41", "end": "01:58:47", "text": "that's that's uh I like that one bit. But I think actually uh that the dinosaurs were the original"}, {"start": "01:58:47", "end": "01:58:52", "text": "the original meat shield the original because if you if a if a craft crashed on"}, {"start": "01:58:52", "end": "01:58:58", "text": "dinosaur earth, you know, back in those days, you wouldn't last very long, right? You know what I mean? But it's highly"}, {"start": "01:58:58", "end": "01:59:05", "text": "likely that due to the animalistic nature of the dinosaurs and predatory nature that they were probably chasing"}, {"start": "01:59:05", "end": "01:59:11", "text": "down the ultraterrestrials as well. M so because they're just just aggression,"}, {"start": "01:59:11", "end": "01:59:16", "text": "pure aggression, right? So it's it's in my mind at least with the replacements."}, {"start": "01:59:16", "end": "01:59:23", "text": "Yeah, I do think that I do think the idea has legs, especially considering that you're safer underground."}, {"start": "01:59:23", "end": "01:59:28", "text": "Indeed. Yeah, you can Yeah, you can control the access point. Yeah. And if you want to, you know, have"}, {"start": "01:59:28", "end": "01:59:34", "text": "a longerlasting species, you would live underground. Yeah. Uh, you know, you can, no natural"}, {"start": "01:59:34", "end": "01:59:41", "text": "disaster is going to get you. No nuclear fallout is going to get you. No asteroid is going to kill you. A smarter species"}, {"start": "01:59:41", "end": "01:59:48", "text": "would have a less fun life. Yeah. Uh a more optimal species would have a less fun life. But that also tells me"}, {"start": "01:59:48", "end": "01:59:53", "text": "that they aren't that they might be AI themselves."}, {"start": "01:59:53", "end": "01:59:58", "text": "It's highly likely that they've also fused with AI. Yeah. Because because if you know only"}, {"start": "01:59:58", "end": "02:00:04", "text": "AI would be like it's optimal to be underground and we're like you know that human"}, {"start": "02:00:04", "end": "02:00:09", "text": "passionate spark that we have. were like, \"Yeah, but we can also enjoy the sunshine.\" Yeah. You know,"}, {"start": "02:00:09", "end": "02:00:15", "text": "but the problem with that is is that unless they're aliens from the UK, in which case they don't mind so much."}, {"start": "02:00:15", "end": "02:00:21", "text": "I mean, the problem is is that because we live on the surface and we produce all these high energy emissions that are going into space, we we are announcing"}, {"start": "02:00:21", "end": "02:00:27", "text": "where we are exactly to trillions and trillions of solar systems with trillions and trillions of planets. All"}, {"start": "02:00:27", "end": "02:00:34", "text": "it takes is one of them to say, \"Oh, you have something we want.\" You know, so I don't know. it the odds"}, {"start": "02:00:34", "end": "02:00:39", "text": "are against us. The dark forest theory. Yeah. Yeah. And I think um I think that's why"}, {"start": "02:00:39", "end": "02:00:46", "text": "the sphere network is is doing what it's doing. But al also I mean the the sphere network explains a few other things like"}, {"start": "02:00:46", "end": "02:00:52", "text": "it explains the family paradox. You say where are all the aliens? Well, the network keeps the bulk of them out. Uh"}, {"start": "02:00:52", "end": "02:00:58", "text": "then it explains polyist activity and it explains spontaneous human combustion all in one."}, {"start": "02:00:58", "end": "02:01:05", "text": "So it it does tick a lot of boxes. Um but yeah, I mean from the image I got um"}, {"start": "02:01:05", "end": "02:01:11", "text": "from my test, these guys are nocturnal and because of the size of their eyes um"}, {"start": "02:01:11", "end": "02:01:19", "text": "and they would be suited underground because it's darker, right? Um yeah, interesting. We got one last"}, {"start": "02:01:19", "end": "02:01:24", "text": "one here and this one is from Gina, I believe."}, {"start": "02:01:24", "end": "02:01:27", "text": "It's a good question."}, {"start": "02:01:35", "end": "02:01:43", "text": "Gina says, \"If Earth is protected by an intelligent ADT, which is like a security software, uh, and humans are"}, {"start": "02:01:43", "end": "02:01:49", "text": "the criminal element, uh, who installed it and when do the police arrive?\""}, {"start": "02:01:49", "end": "02:01:56", "text": "So again, it kind of answers what we just went over. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I'm not saying that humans are a criminal element, but we serve a role."}, {"start": "02:01:56", "end": "02:02:02", "text": "We have a role in the system. Yeah. in the same way that we don't talk to primates. Uh I don't I think uh these"}, {"start": "02:02:02", "end": "02:02:10", "text": "guys don't talk to us. And I think that's that's the block in politics as well. Like Trump said recently that he"}, {"start": "02:02:10", "end": "02:02:15", "text": "wish he could tell us but it's not his decision which means it's their decision."}, {"start": "02:02:15", "end": "02:02:22", "text": "Because the thing is if if you've got if if the average IQ of these guys is say 200 250 what have they got in common"}, {"start": "02:02:22", "end": "02:02:27", "text": "with us? Most the average IQ on earth is between 50 and 100."}, {"start": "02:02:27", "end": "02:02:34", "text": "you know, so they we we would not serve any purpose to them in in their lives."}, {"start": "02:02:34", "end": "02:02:40", "text": "In the same way, a primate has no real purpose in the human domain other than being in the zoo, right?"}, {"start": "02:02:40", "end": "02:02:45", "text": "You know, so by that by that uh kind of logic, they"}, {"start": "02:02:45", "end": "02:02:51", "text": "they probably just say, \"Look, you you perform a role. You're there to to do a role for us, and we'll just carry on"}, {"start": "02:02:51", "end": "02:02:59", "text": "doing what we do.\" the so the the future for humanity as I explained it in my book is um is that we"}, {"start": "02:02:59", "end": "02:03:06", "text": "have to fuse with AI is it's non-negotiable we have to do it so what it does it the the human brain currently"}, {"start": "02:03:06", "end": "02:03:12", "text": "would become is currently the manager and processor while what happen what will need to"}, {"start": "02:03:12", "end": "02:03:18", "text": "happen is the brain will become the manager but the AI will become the processor so it means that we can all"}, {"start": "02:03:18", "end": "02:03:25", "text": "jump up to like 250 300 intelligence level, IQ level. Um, when you jump up to"}, {"start": "02:03:25", "end": "02:03:30", "text": "those levels, then suddenly you're much more compatible with these other groups."}, {"start": "02:03:30", "end": "02:03:37", "text": "Yeah. And then it's like, okay, now you're smart enough. Now the gates will be opened because now I can talk to you as"}, {"start": "02:03:37", "end": "02:03:42", "text": "an equal. Yeah, I get that. I get that from a"}, {"start": "02:03:42", "end": "02:03:49", "text": "logical intelligent, you know, sort of point of view, but I"}, {"start": "02:03:49", "end": "02:03:54", "text": "don't get it from a human perspective. You know, that's the that's the part"}, {"start": "02:03:54", "end": "02:04:02", "text": "that I fail to like gel with is this idea that in order to survive, we have"}, {"start": "02:04:02", "end": "02:04:09", "text": "to give up what makes us human. Well, I don't know if it we have to give it up. It just makes us smarter. I don't"}, {"start": "02:04:09", "end": "02:04:15", "text": "know. Maybe maybe the smarter you get, the more cynical you become or the more colder you become."}, {"start": "02:04:15", "end": "02:04:20", "text": "I think so. Maybe. Um, you know, if you look at computers, they don't really care. They they feain, you know, emotion."}, {"start": "02:04:20", "end": "02:04:26", "text": "Yeah. Whereas, you know, emotion drives a lot of our decision-m and that is part of our downfall. I do understand that. But"}, {"start": "02:04:26", "end": "02:04:34", "text": "also, it is what makes us unique on this planet. I mean, this this is what um Neurolink"}, {"start": "02:04:34", "end": "02:04:39", "text": "is all about really. M this is this is the main mission of Neurolink because you're you're"}, {"start": "02:04:39", "end": "02:04:46", "text": "interfacing the brain to a high-speed interface to AI intelligence. That's the overall vision of it."}, {"start": "02:04:46", "end": "02:04:53", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. But I also, you know, I wonder like there's got to be, you know what I mean? Like if that's if that's"}, {"start": "02:04:53", "end": "02:05:00", "text": "all life is just to prolong and extend our physical, you know,"}, {"start": "02:05:00", "end": "02:05:06", "text": "existence. It it seems it seems a little silly, you"}, {"start": "02:05:06", "end": "02:05:11", "text": "know, considering the vastness of the universe and space and time itself that"}, {"start": "02:05:11", "end": "02:05:18", "text": "we're just trying to prolong this little blip that we're here for. Seems like whatever it is we're here for serves a"}, {"start": "02:05:18", "end": "02:05:25", "text": "greater role beyond the physical, you know, it could be. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, logically it"}, {"start": "02:05:25", "end": "02:05:31", "text": "does. It just maps out that way. Um Yeah. Right. And uh you know I I do my"}, {"start": "02:05:31", "end": "02:05:38", "text": "best to keep away from emotional logic because it it's blurry. Um but uh the"}, {"start": "02:05:38", "end": "02:05:46", "text": "the black and white cold logic in my head just models it out like that. Mhm. Um and that's uh that's what I think."}, {"start": "02:05:46", "end": "02:05:52", "text": "Yeah. But that also means you assume that their um their number one priority"}, {"start": "02:05:52", "end": "02:05:57", "text": "is survival. That's your assumption. Well, I mean that might not be true. I mean, they"}, {"start": "02:05:57", "end": "02:06:02", "text": "they're saying that Mars was destroyed by a nuclear event, right,"}, {"start": "02:06:02", "end": "02:06:08", "text": "recently. They they said, I think on the news the other day, that there's evidence to suggest that um"}, {"start": "02:06:08", "end": "02:06:16", "text": "Mhm. Mars was attacked by nuclear weapons. So maybe if um you know, maybe they are"}, {"start": "02:06:16", "end": "02:06:25", "text": "just worried about survival, you know, maybe maybe it is that way. Uh I think uh even even uh President Trump said the"}, {"start": "02:06:25", "end": "02:06:31", "text": "the space is a domain of war. So it could it could be that"}, {"start": "02:06:31", "end": "02:06:37", "text": "the the night sky is although as stunning as it is is just like the ocean."}, {"start": "02:06:37", "end": "02:06:43", "text": "Mhm. You know where dangerous is highly dangerous. Lots of animals, lots of predators, lots of all sorts"}, {"start": "02:06:43", "end": "02:06:49", "text": "teaming with life. Yep. Yeah. I mean it, you know, the"}, {"start": "02:06:49", "end": "02:06:55", "text": "theory does answer questions, but it definitely sparks a whole new debate on so many more questions that are out"}, {"start": "02:06:55", "end": "02:07:00", "text": "there. Oh, completely. Um, but one thing I I can say is that that the work that's"}, {"start": "02:07:00", "end": "02:07:06", "text": "been presented in the book is testable. It can all it needs is money behind it."}, {"start": "02:07:06", "end": "02:07:14", "text": "Sure. It it's testable. It's verifiable. And it's it replicates. And um if I can if I"}, {"start": "02:07:14", "end": "02:07:21", "text": "can find data that replicates just with my own eyes. Yeah. Uh I'm sure you know with a budget I"}, {"start": "02:07:21", "end": "02:07:28", "text": "could find a lot more or perhaps with the the help of the internet. You know there's a we've got we've got"}, {"start": "02:07:28", "end": "02:07:33", "text": "our own resources here uh or extensive branch of"}, {"start": "02:07:33", "end": "02:07:39", "text": "uh people watching this video. Let let me know in the comments or or hit me up in in Discord or even, you know, reach"}, {"start": "02:07:39", "end": "02:07:46", "text": "out to Patrick here if you yourself found evidence of this uh sphere network. I think it'd be interesting to"}, {"start": "02:07:46", "end": "02:07:53", "text": "pull up on the socials, whether it's Twitter or Instagram. Reach out, send us images of the spheres that landed in"}, {"start": "02:07:53", "end": "02:08:00", "text": "your backyard or perhaps, you know, video footage of certain celestial objects exploding. I would love to see"}, {"start": "02:08:00", "end": "02:08:05", "text": "more of this. It's really interesting. or even just some paranormal hauntings that you think can be explained with"}, {"start": "02:08:05", "end": "02:08:10", "text": "this I think is um you know a really worthwhile conversation to have at the very least."}, {"start": "02:08:10", "end": "02:08:17", "text": "I think so. Um and it's a it's a breath of fresh air as well for the for the uh for the"}, {"start": "02:08:17", "end": "02:08:24", "text": "community and for you know productions TV and so forth. Definitely. It's all been a bit stuck in the mud for the last uh 10 years."}, {"start": "02:08:24", "end": "02:08:30", "text": "Sure. You know what I mean? So I think something new is is uh is needed. Absolutely. And um yeah, it's something"}, {"start": "02:08:30", "end": "02:08:35", "text": "that I'm definitely going to have to consider moving forward as well. So Patrick, thank you so much for your"}, {"start": "02:08:35", "end": "02:08:41", "text": "time. I won't take up any more time here on in the skiff, but I do appreciate you. Uh where can people find you?"}, {"start": "02:08:41", "end": "02:08:47", "text": "Uh I'm mostly on X. Um account is Patrick H. Jackson. Um the Sphere"}, {"start": "02:08:47", "end": "02:08:52", "text": "Network. Just look it up. Perfect. And I'll leave I'll leave the link to the book in the description. You"}, {"start": "02:08:52", "end": "02:08:58", "text": "guys can check it out as well. Patrick, thank you so much. No worries. Thank you very much."}, {"start": "02:08:58", "end": "02:09:05", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "02:09:08", "end": "02:09:12", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"end": "00:00:05", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "A police officer was abducted and he"}, {"end": "00:00:08", "start": "00:00:02", "text": "wasn't the only one. Multiple cases"}, {"end": "00:00:11", "start": "00:00:05", "text": "describe the same beings marked by the"}, {"end": "00:00:13", "start": "00:00:08", "text": "same emblem. One of these abductions was"}, {"end": "00:00:15", "start": "00:00:11", "text": "witnessed by several people and was"}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:13", "text": "officially reported by the police as a"}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:15", "text": "close encounter of the third kind."}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:20", "text": "Hey, I was about 8 years old and I was"}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "alone at home on the farm. Everybody"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "else had gone. I was riding my bike on"}, {"end": "00:00:32", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "the clay driveway. And I look up and"}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "there's like a triangle like it looked"}, {"end": "00:00:37", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "like a sticker, like a black sticker"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "that was just stuck in the sky. It was"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:37", "text": "huge."}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "And I look down and I'm actually"}, {"end": "00:00:45", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "floating off the ground and my toes are"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "pointed to the ground. My arms are level"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:45", "text": "like my body, but they weren't out"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "sticking. And it just kept looking at"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "this triangle. And then it just rotated"}, {"end": "00:00:59", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "and slowly moved off at the top of the"}, {"end": "00:01:02", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "pine trees. And then I look down and I'm"}, {"end": "00:01:04", "start": "00:00:59", "text": "still standing on the ground again."}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:02", "text": "So I don't know what it was, but ever"}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:04", "text": "since then there's been like occurrences"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:07", "text": "that happen where I will see things of"}, {"end": "00:01:13", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "different shapes, sizes."}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:13", "text": "another episode of Debrief. My name is"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "Chris Ramsey and today we are going to"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "be taking a look at one of the most"}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "infamous abduction cases in the history"}, {"end": "00:01:27", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "of the United States of America. This is"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "the story of Herbert Shurmer. The reason"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:27", "text": "it's one of the most important cases of"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "abductions is that Shurmer was a police"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "officer. But not only that, he'd also"}, {"end": "00:01:39", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "served in the United States Navy and was"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "awarded the National Defense Service"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:39", "text": "Medal. So, a very credible witness"}, {"end": "00:01:46", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "indeed. This case happened in the 60s."}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "It was investigated by the Condan"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:46", "text": "Committee. There was hypnotic regression"}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "involved. And beyond all that, there are"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "also some really interesting connections"}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "to be made to other cases which we're"}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "going to look into. Namely, Filberto"}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "Cardinius, Bill Herman, and of course,"}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "the Lerta files. How does Lerta tie into"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "all of this? Well, we're about to find"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "out, folks. Uh before we do, a quick"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "message from our sponsors."}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "All right, here's something weird. There"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "are companies out there called data"}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "brokers whose whole job is to follow you"}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "around the internet like a nosy"}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "neighbor. Except instead of gossip,"}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "they're collecting everything. Your"}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "name, your address, shopping habits,"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "even that thing you searched at 2 a.m."}, {"end": "00:02:39", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "that you immediately regretted. Yes,"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "that thing. and they sell it over and"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:39", "text": "over and over and over like it's a yard"}, {"end": "00:02:49", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "sale of your private life. That's why I"}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "use Incogn. You see, incogn"}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:49", "text": "stuff, they delete it. They reach out to"}, {"end": "00:02:56", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "hundreds of these shady companies and"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "legally force them to remove your info."}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:56", "text": "It's like sending in a team of digital"}, {"end": "00:03:04", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "cleanup agents, except you don't have to"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "lift a finger. Go to incogn.com/eria52"}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:04", "text": "and use code area52 to save 60% off your"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "annual plan. If you're online, your data"}, {"end": "00:03:16", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "is out there. Might as well do something"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "about it."}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:16", "text": "All right, folks. We paid the bills."}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "Like this video, subscribe, hit the"}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "notification bell. Without any further"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "ado, let's get into this. We have a few"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "things to cover today. Obviously, we're"}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "going to go through Herbert Shurmer's"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "testimony. Uh we're we've basically"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "pulled transcript from one of his talks"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "that was recorded, so we'll be reading"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "through that. But also, there's some"}, {"end": "00:03:45", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "other information that has surfaced."}, {"end": "00:03:47", "start": "00:03:43", "text": "Wait and see how all of this connects"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:45", "text": "because it connects in a way that was to"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:47", "text": "me completely unexpected. I was reading"}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "through this case and I started going,"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "\"Wait a minute. What about this? What"}, {"end": "00:03:59", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "about that? Oh my god, this connects to"}, {"end": "00:04:01", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "that. this case over here. The craft is"}, {"end": "00:04:03", "start": "00:03:59", "text": "the same, the beings are the same, the"}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:04:01", "text": "symbols are the same. Very interesting"}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:03", "text": "stuff we're all going to get into. I'm"}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "very excited about this episode. And"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "here, by the way, I've got some really"}, {"end": "00:04:13", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "cool books. This book here features a"}, {"end": "00:04:15", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "lot of the news articles written about"}, {"end": "00:04:17", "start": "00:04:13", "text": "Shurmer at the time. And if you guys"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:15", "text": "want to check this out, this is a sort"}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:17", "text": "of graphic novel or, you know, comic"}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "book if you like, uh, about December"}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "3rd, 1967. the abduction of Herbert"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "Shurmer put together from the interview"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "that we're going to be reading through"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "today. So, if you see me cutting to any"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "B-roll of this of of these cartoon"}, {"end": "00:04:38", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "images, it's in here. I will also be"}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "referencing things from Contact from"}, {"end": "00:04:45", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "Reticulum and the update versions by"}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "Colonel Wendell Stevens as well as UFO"}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:45", "text": "contact from under sea by Vgilio Sanchez"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "Ojo and Wendell uh Stevens as well. To"}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "give you a bit of a history here, he"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "served from 1964 to 1967 in the US Navy."}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "Uh when he retired from the Navy, now"}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "his father was retired Air Force at the"}, {"end": "00:05:08", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "time and following in his father's"}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "footsteps. You know, he kind of wanted"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:08", "text": "to to be enlisted as well, but then"}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "subsequent to that found himself a"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "little bit lost and and thinking, man,"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "you know, I have all these skills. What"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "do I do with it? He decides to become a"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "police officer in Ashland, Nebraska."}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "Now, what's really interesting about"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "December 3rd, 1967, the alien encounter"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "of Herbert Shurmer, is in his police"}, {"end": "00:05:37", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "log, he actually logged in that he saw a"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "flying saucer, which is kind of crazy."}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:37", "text": "Like, I mean, we we we'd expect police"}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "officers at least to like keep that"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "information. You don't want to put that"}, {"end": "00:05:47", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "out there. Maybe fear of ridicule. Uh,"}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "but yeah, he did indeed log that in as"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:47", "text": "as such. This is transcript directly"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "from an interview with Herbert Shurmer."}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "Now, in here, I think he pretty much"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "goes over the entire"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "um sequence of events"}, {"end": "00:06:08", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "based on both hypnotic regressions that"}, {"end": "00:06:10", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "he went through. Whereas, at first, he"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:08", "text": "didn't really know what happened. he"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:10", "text": "just had some missing time and checked"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "his log book to find that he had written"}, {"end": "00:06:21", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "down at 2:30 a.m. December 3rd, 1967, I"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "saw a UFO at junction 6 in 63. Believe"}, {"end": "00:06:25", "start": "00:06:21", "text": "it or not, it was only then that the"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "case got investigated by the condom"}, {"end": "00:06:31", "start": "00:06:25", "text": "committee and that they suggested to Mr."}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "Shurmer to go and visit Dr. Leo"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:31", "text": "Sprinkle, who was the regression"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "hypnotherapist that they used for such"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "contact cases. So, Sprinkle obviously"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "was already familiar with UFO"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "abductions. That would have been his"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "first session then. Now, after that,"}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "Shurmer was incredibly ridiculed at the"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "police office. I mean, by the media, by"}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "so many different people. Eventually, he"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "just uh retired and then went to go see"}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "another hypnos hypnotherapist, Luring G."}, {"end": "00:07:10", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "Williams, in De Moine, Iowa, to have his"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "second regression. He resigned from the"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:10", "text": "police office a few months after due to"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "stress and ridicule. What we're going to"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "read is a transcript of an interview"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "with him, but again, he takes into"}, {"end": "00:07:23", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "account all of his regression sessions."}, {"end": "00:07:26", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "There's no pause in between. This is the"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:23", "text": "story how his mind remembers it. It was"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:26", "text": "around 2:30 actually, I think, was the"}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "time that this happened, but right"}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "around 2:20, I was just checking two gas"}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "stations. I left the two gas stations."}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:35", "text": "Excuse me. I left the last gas station"}, {"end": "00:07:41", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "that I checked to pull onto the highway"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "and I was making radio contact with the"}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:41", "text": "Wahoo Sheriff's Office because we didn't"}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "have radio communications available in"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "the city at nighttime because we"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "couldn't afford it. So, I told them that"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "everything was all secure. I pulled onto"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "the highway and putting the mic down, I"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "seen some flashing lights in front of"}, {"end": "00:07:57", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "me."}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "First appeared to me to be a truck, I"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:57", "text": "thought. As I got closer and put the"}, {"end": "00:08:04", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "high beams of the lights on the patrol"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "car on this, this object started"}, {"end": "00:08:10", "start": "00:08:04", "text": "raising. These lights started raising up"}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "in the air to about 40 ft. I think I was"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:10", "text": "something like 50 yard from this. These"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "lights were flashing. And as they got"}, {"end": "00:08:19", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "bigger, as I got closer, it seemed like"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "they were red flashing lights coming out"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:19", "text": "of a port hole which sort of circled the"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "craft. It had like a catwalk going"}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "around the center of it. It was shaped"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "like a football, very metallic, like a"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "very shiny bumper. If you polished a"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "bumper on a car, it had a sort of"}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "reddish orangey glow coming from beneath"}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "it. And then there was this white flash"}, {"end": "00:08:45", "start": "00:08:39", "text": "that came on to me in the patrol car. It"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "felt as if we were being pulled."}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "And then it was being pulled. We were"}, {"end": "00:08:51", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "being pulled up to the side of this bank"}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "to the left of the road and up towards"}, {"end": "00:08:57", "start": "00:08:51", "text": "this fill. the car and I I felt nothing."}, {"end": "00:08:59", "start": "00:08:55", "text": "At first, I felt kind of stunned and"}, {"end": "00:09:01", "start": "00:08:57", "text": "shocked"}, {"end": "00:09:03", "start": "00:08:59", "text": "and then I felt sort of tingly. And as"}, {"end": "00:09:06", "start": "00:09:01", "text": "the car and I moved up the bank to the"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:03", "text": "top of this fill, this object landed and"}, {"end": "00:09:11", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "some legs came out and it sat down."}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "I was just sitting there really"}, {"end": "00:09:15", "start": "00:09:11", "text": "emotionless. I couldn't move. I may have"}, {"end": "00:09:17", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "even had my mouth open. I don't"}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:15", "text": "remember, you know, being probably"}, {"end": "00:09:23", "start": "00:09:17", "text": "scared. This hatch came open and this"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:20", "text": "light came out of the hatch"}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:23", "text": "and this form came down and looked the"}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "form of a human being and this form"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "started walking toward the patrol car"}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "with an object in both its hands"}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "appeared to be hands and he was walking"}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "straight toward the patrol car. As he"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "was doing this, another form came out"}, {"end": "00:09:44", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "and started walking toward the patrol"}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "car also. is this being walked up to the"}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:44", "text": "front of the patrol car with this object"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "in his hand which looked sort of"}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:47", "text": "squareish oval type. It looked like it"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "had a lens in front of it and the only"}, {"end": "00:09:57", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "thing I could think was, \"Oh my god,"}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "what's going to happen now?\""}, {"end": "00:10:01", "start": "00:09:57", "text": "And this green light came out all over"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "the car and it sort of like went back in"}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:01", "text": "again. I felt a sensation then and then"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "I felt nothing like I was just there and"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "that was it. And this other being"}, {"end": "00:10:15", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "started walking up toward the car. I was"}, {"end": "00:10:17", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "sitting straight, looking straight. I"}, {"end": "00:10:19", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "couldn't even move my head. And he"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:17", "text": "walked up to the car and the window was"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "about 3/4 of the way rolled down. And he"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "had an object in his hand, a silver"}, {"end": "00:10:28", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "object that looked like a big pencil"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "with a round ball on the end of it. And"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:28", "text": "he pressed it against the side of my"}, {"end": "00:10:34", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "neck, which I felt some pain from and"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "said, \"Ouch.\" Then he stepped back and I"}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "sort of sat there and he opened up the"}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "car door and just went like this. And I"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "sort of raised up out of the patrol car"}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "and I was looking at him and he was"}, {"end": "00:10:47", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "looking at me and he said, \"Are you the"}, {"end": "00:10:51", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "watchman of this town?\" And my response"}, {"end": "00:10:53", "start": "00:10:47", "text": "was, \"Yes, sir.\" He said, \"Come with me,"}, {"end": "00:10:55", "start": "00:10:51", "text": "watchman.\" We got up to the hatch to"}, {"end": "00:10:57", "start": "00:10:53", "text": "where you went inside of the spacecraft"}, {"end": "00:10:59", "start": "00:10:55", "text": "and we just sort of like floated up into"}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:57", "text": "the first level. And he says to me,"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:10:59", "text": "\"Watchmen, come with me.\" And we were in"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "a circular room and there were a lot of"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "cylinders about 4 and 1/2 ft high and"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "about 2 ft wide that circled the whole"}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "room. And it had sort of like a cable"}, {"end": "00:11:13", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "running through it. Two cables running"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "through these. They look like tall"}, {"end": "00:11:18", "start": "00:11:13", "text": "batteries to me. And then in the center"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "of this room was a huge cocoon or you"}, {"end": "00:11:23", "start": "00:11:18", "text": "know like this shaped object was"}, {"end": "00:11:26", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "spinning and it was giving off colors"}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:23", "text": "like the rainbow and was about 20 ft"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:26", "text": "long. And it seemed like these cables"}, {"end": "00:11:32", "start": "00:11:28", "text": "were coming up and connecting to these"}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "two block things that came down each end"}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:32", "text": "of it. And we walked the complete circle"}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "in there as I said, \"What is this?\" And"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "he said, \"This is how our craft"}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "operates.\" And he said, \"It operates on"}, {"end": "00:11:45", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "electrical reversible magnetism.\" And"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "then I looked at him and he said, \"Come"}, {"end": "00:11:49", "start": "00:11:45", "text": "with me, watchman.\""}, {"end": "00:11:51", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "And we walked back over to where I had"}, {"end": "00:11:53", "start": "00:11:49", "text": "came up in with him. And this glass"}, {"end": "00:11:56", "start": "00:11:51", "text": "sheet came down and we stepped onto"}, {"end": "00:11:58", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "this, which I felt. And we moved up into"}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:56", "text": "the second level of the craft. And lo"}, {"end": "00:12:02", "start": "00:11:58", "text": "and behold, I've never seen anything"}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "like it before in my life. so many"}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:12:02", "text": "different types of instrument panels and"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "computer type things that you just"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "wouldn't believe it. This cone thing was"}, {"end": "00:12:14", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "right in the center of the floor. You"}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "can see half of it from on top and half"}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:14", "text": "of it from the bottom at an unmarked"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "building in the Avery."}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:18", "text": "MS walks inside and just right there are"}, {"end": "00:12:26", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "men in uniform induc industrial security"}, {"end": "00:12:29", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "personnel holding weapons and then there"}, {"end": "00:12:31", "start": "00:12:26", "text": "is a craft just floating there. It is a"}, {"end": "00:12:33", "start": "00:12:29", "text": "saucer almost like a top-shaped craft,"}, {"end": "00:12:36", "start": "00:12:31", "text": "but there's paneling removed from the"}, {"end": "00:12:37", "start": "00:12:33", "text": "bottom where he sees similar I know how"}, {"end": "00:12:40", "start": "00:12:36", "text": "interested you are in Bob Lazar, an"}, {"end": "00:12:42", "start": "00:12:37", "text": "inverted cone type thing. He doesn't"}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:40", "text": "know what this is. No idea, but it's"}, {"end": "00:12:47", "start": "00:12:42", "text": "like an inverted triangle cone that"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "seems to be free floating in the bottom"}, {"end": "00:12:50", "start": "00:12:47", "text": "little um jutting out part of the"}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "saucer."}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:50", "text": "But it gave off a red glow that sort of"}, {"end": "00:12:56", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "not flashed, but kind of died down and"}, {"end": "00:12:59", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "then came back up again. and he says,"}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:56", "text": "\"Watchman, come with me.\" And we walked"}, {"end": "00:13:03", "start": "00:12:59", "text": "over to a screen that was up on the"}, {"end": "00:13:06", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "side. I say, \"Wall.\" It was sort of like"}, {"end": "00:13:09", "start": "00:13:03", "text": "a TV screen. And he pressed some buttons"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:06", "text": "and I guess flipped some switches. I"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:09", "text": "wasn't paying too much attention to him."}, {"end": "00:13:16", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "I was looking at the screen. And some"}, {"end": "00:13:18", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "stars in the sky appeared on there and"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:16", "text": "he put his finger up like this and he"}, {"end": "00:13:22", "start": "00:13:18", "text": "said, \"Uh, this is where we're from,"}, {"end": "00:13:25", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "watchman.\" And then he put his hand back"}, {"end": "00:13:27", "start": "00:13:22", "text": "down. He didn't say where and he didn't"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:25", "text": "say the name. He just pointed. The"}, {"end": "00:13:30", "start": "00:13:27", "text": "purpose that we're here is to get"}, {"end": "00:13:32", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "electricity. And there was another being"}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:30", "text": "standing a little distance away. And the"}, {"end": "00:13:36", "start": "00:13:32", "text": "man turned to him and they both looked"}, {"end": "00:13:38", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "at each other and he started depressing"}, {"end": "00:13:40", "start": "00:13:36", "text": "the buttons. And he says, \"Watch,"}, {"end": "00:13:42", "start": "00:13:38", "text": "watchman.\" And there was this antenna on"}, {"end": "00:13:44", "start": "00:13:40", "text": "the outside of the spacecraft which"}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:42", "text": "angled up toward a power unit. And this"}, {"end": "00:13:48", "start": "00:13:44", "text": "bolt went out, a color I've never seen"}, {"end": "00:13:51", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "before in my life. And I don't even"}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:48", "text": "think I could describe it. Went out,"}, {"end": "00:13:56", "start": "00:13:51", "text": "came back, and this stayed like this for"}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:54", "text": "about 3 minutes. And then it went off"}, {"end": "00:14:01", "start": "00:13:56", "text": "and he turned and looked at me and I"}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "felt I was getting very a very very an"}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:14:01", "text": "awful lot of role of input of words I"}, {"end": "00:14:07", "start": "00:14:03", "text": "couldn't understand"}, {"end": "00:14:10", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "and he reached up and he touched me on"}, {"end": "00:14:12", "start": "00:14:07", "text": "the shoulder and he felt real when he"}, {"end": "00:14:15", "start": "00:14:10", "text": "touched me and I think at that time I"}, {"end": "00:14:18", "start": "00:14:12", "text": "did touch him and he felt real to me and"}, {"end": "00:14:20", "start": "00:14:15", "text": "he says watchman come with me. We walk"}, {"end": "00:14:21", "start": "00:14:18", "text": "back over to the exit. I'll say where we"}, {"end": "00:14:24", "start": "00:14:20", "text": "came up and the glass sheet came down"}, {"end": "00:14:25", "start": "00:14:21", "text": "again. And we went up into the third"}, {"end": "00:14:28", "start": "00:14:24", "text": "part of the craft which was the"}, {"end": "00:14:30", "start": "00:14:25", "text": "observation deck, he said. And as we"}, {"end": "00:14:33", "start": "00:14:28", "text": "stepped off, he said, \"Watchman, come"}, {"end": "00:14:34", "start": "00:14:30", "text": "with me.\" And we walked over and we were"}, {"end": "00:14:36", "start": "00:14:33", "text": "standing there looking out of a big"}, {"end": "00:14:39", "start": "00:14:34", "text": "glass window type thing. And there was a"}, {"end": "00:14:40", "start": "00:14:36", "text": "control panel right in front of it. And"}, {"end": "00:14:43", "start": "00:14:39", "text": "there were two chairs that looked like"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:40", "text": "dentist chairs. You know, I've ridden a"}, {"end": "00:14:47", "start": "00:14:43", "text": "dentist chair, but really a superructure"}, {"end": "00:14:49", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "of a chair, better than a dentist chair."}, {"end": "00:14:51", "start": "00:14:47", "text": "And we looked out the window and I could"}, {"end": "00:14:54", "start": "00:14:49", "text": "see this one being walking back and"}, {"end": "00:14:57", "start": "00:14:51", "text": "forth by where my patrol car was. And I"}, {"end": "00:14:59", "start": "00:14:54", "text": "think I said, \"Wow.\" And he put his He"}, {"end": "00:15:00", "start": "00:14:57", "text": "didn't. No, he didn't. He turned to me"}, {"end": "00:15:03", "start": "00:14:59", "text": "and he said something I don't"}, {"end": "00:15:04", "start": "00:15:00", "text": "understand. And he said some more things"}, {"end": "00:15:06", "start": "00:15:03", "text": "that I didn't understand or couldn't"}, {"end": "00:15:08", "start": "00:15:04", "text": "make out and I still don't. And then he"}, {"end": "00:15:11", "start": "00:15:06", "text": "pointed his hand toward the plate glass"}, {"end": "00:15:14", "start": "00:15:08", "text": "window, as I say, refer to to the stars"}, {"end": "00:15:16", "start": "00:15:11", "text": "out there. And he says to me, \"Watchmen,"}, {"end": "00:15:19", "start": "00:15:14", "text": "one day you yourself will see the"}, {"end": "00:15:20", "start": "00:15:16", "text": "universe as I have.\" And he reached up"}, {"end": "00:15:23", "start": "00:15:19", "text": "and he touched me on the shoulder like"}, {"end": "00:15:25", "start": "00:15:20", "text": "this, you know, like grabbing you on the"}, {"end": "00:15:28", "start": "00:15:23", "text": "shoulder like a man does to steer you"}, {"end": "00:15:30", "start": "00:15:25", "text": "away. And he says, \"Come with me,"}, {"end": "00:15:32", "start": "00:15:28", "text": "watchman.\" And then he stopped and he"}, {"end": "00:15:35", "start": "00:15:30", "text": "said, \"Watchman.\" And I turned around"}, {"end": "00:15:36", "start": "00:15:32", "text": "like this to look at him. And it felt"}, {"end": "00:15:38", "start": "00:15:35", "text": "like I was getting more input of"}, {"end": "00:15:41", "start": "00:15:36", "text": "something that I couldn't understand."}, {"end": "00:15:43", "start": "00:15:38", "text": "Then he says, \"Watchman, come with me.\""}, {"end": "00:15:45", "start": "00:15:41", "text": "We walked over and we went down all the"}, {"end": "00:15:47", "start": "00:15:43", "text": "way out of the craft. As we got outside,"}, {"end": "00:15:49", "start": "00:15:45", "text": "this other being started walking back"}, {"end": "00:15:52", "start": "00:15:47", "text": "toward the spacecraft and boarded it. As"}, {"end": "00:15:54", "start": "00:15:49", "text": "we were walking toward my patrol car, we"}, {"end": "00:15:56", "start": "00:15:52", "text": "stopped right by the patrol car and I"}, {"end": "00:15:59", "start": "00:15:54", "text": "turned to look at him and he was looking"}, {"end": "00:16:01", "start": "00:15:56", "text": "at me and then again it felt like I was"}, {"end": "00:16:03", "start": "00:15:59", "text": "receiving input of words of some kind"}, {"end": "00:16:06", "start": "00:16:01", "text": "that I couldn't understand. And he"}, {"end": "00:16:08", "start": "00:16:03", "text": "turned. No, he sort of lifted his hand"}, {"end": "00:16:10", "start": "00:16:06", "text": "and then he turned and walked back to"}, {"end": "00:16:12", "start": "00:16:08", "text": "the spacecraft. floated up inside. The"}, {"end": "00:16:15", "start": "00:16:10", "text": "catwalk thing started spinning. The"}, {"end": "00:16:17", "start": "00:16:12", "text": "light started flashing off and on. This"}, {"end": "00:16:19", "start": "00:16:15", "text": "red orange glow came out from beneath"}, {"end": "00:16:21", "start": "00:16:17", "text": "it."}, {"end": "00:16:24", "start": "00:16:19", "text": "It started lifting up in the air and I"}, {"end": "00:16:26", "start": "00:16:21", "text": "guess it got about 100 ft and just shot"}, {"end": "00:16:29", "start": "00:16:24", "text": "straight out of sight. Let me tell you,"}, {"end": "00:16:32", "start": "00:16:26", "text": "I was scared. I started feeling me"}, {"end": "00:16:35", "start": "00:16:29", "text": "again. When I was aboard the spacecraft,"}, {"end": "00:16:38", "start": "00:16:32", "text": "I hardly had no feeling at all. My body"}, {"end": "00:16:40", "start": "00:16:35", "text": "was tingling. I was persspiring. I was"}, {"end": "00:16:43", "start": "00:16:38", "text": "hot. I felt nauseated."}, {"end": "00:16:45", "start": "00:16:40", "text": "I got back into the patrol car. I turned"}, {"end": "00:16:46", "start": "00:16:43", "text": "it around and I headed back for the"}, {"end": "00:16:48", "start": "00:16:45", "text": "police station. On the way to the police"}, {"end": "00:16:50", "start": "00:16:46", "text": "station at a high rate of speed, I tried"}, {"end": "00:16:52", "start": "00:16:48", "text": "to make communication with Wahoo"}, {"end": "00:16:55", "start": "00:16:50", "text": "Sheriff's Office and it appeared the"}, {"end": "00:16:57", "start": "00:16:52", "text": "radio was dead. I got to the station. I"}, {"end": "00:16:59", "start": "00:16:55", "text": "jumped out of the car in a fast walk,"}, {"end": "00:17:01", "start": "00:16:57", "text": "walked into the police station, and I"}, {"end": "00:17:04", "start": "00:16:59", "text": "noticed the wall clock in the police"}, {"end": "00:17:06", "start": "00:17:01", "text": "station said 1 minute after 3:00 a.m."}, {"end": "00:17:09", "start": "00:17:04", "text": "Well, I went directly to the bathroom."}, {"end": "00:17:12", "start": "00:17:06", "text": "No, to go to the bathroom, but to drink"}, {"end": "00:17:13", "start": "00:17:09", "text": "water because I was hot. And I walked"}, {"end": "00:17:15", "start": "00:17:12", "text": "back into the main room of the police"}, {"end": "00:17:19", "start": "00:17:13", "text": "station. We had a real small police"}, {"end": "00:17:21", "start": "00:17:15", "text": "station. It was about 20 by 20. And I"}, {"end": "00:17:25", "start": "00:17:19", "text": "sat there at the table and I lit a"}, {"end": "00:17:27", "start": "00:17:21", "text": "cigarette and I said, \"Wow,"}, {"end": "00:17:30", "start": "00:17:25", "text": "what the hell happened?"}, {"end": "00:17:33", "start": "00:17:27", "text": "Something happened to me. Did I really"}, {"end": "00:17:36", "start": "00:17:30", "text": "see a flying saucer?"}, {"end": "00:17:38", "start": "00:17:33", "text": "Did this really happen to me?"}, {"end": "00:17:40", "start": "00:17:36", "text": "I looked at my report log and I"}, {"end": "00:17:41", "start": "00:17:38", "text": "remembered through all the training and"}, {"end": "00:17:43", "start": "00:17:40", "text": "everything I went through that"}, {"end": "00:17:45", "start": "00:17:41", "text": "regardless of the nature of what it was,"}, {"end": "00:17:48", "start": "00:17:43", "text": "put it in your report book because you"}, {"end": "00:17:50", "start": "00:17:45", "text": "just might need it. So I looked at my"}, {"end": "00:17:55", "start": "00:17:48", "text": "report book and I got my pen out and I"}, {"end": "00:17:58", "start": "00:17:50", "text": "wrote at 2:30 a.m. December 3rd, 1967, I"}, {"end": "00:18:02", "start": "00:17:55", "text": "saw a UFO at junction 6 and 63. Believe"}, {"end": "00:18:03", "start": "00:17:58", "text": "it or not, now this was followed by"}, {"end": "00:18:08", "start": "00:18:02", "text": "another police officer that came in."}, {"end": "00:18:09", "start": "00:18:03", "text": "According to Mr. Shurmer says, \"At about"}, {"end": "00:18:11", "start": "00:18:08", "text": "6:30 that morning, a fellow officer came"}, {"end": "00:18:14", "start": "00:18:09", "text": "in and I explained to him what happened"}, {"end": "00:18:17", "start": "00:18:11", "text": "to me.\" And the fellow officer says, \"I"}, {"end": "00:18:18", "start": "00:18:14", "text": "believe you, Herb. One time I was on my"}, {"end": "00:18:20", "start": "00:18:17", "text": "way to Wahoo, Nebraska, and I was"}, {"end": "00:18:23", "start": "00:18:18", "text": "driving down the road. I looked over, lo"}, {"end": "00:18:24", "start": "00:18:20", "text": "and behold, there were two UFOs sitting"}, {"end": "00:18:26", "start": "00:18:23", "text": "in a field and these little green men"}, {"end": "00:18:30", "start": "00:18:24", "text": "were out there walking around it, waving"}, {"end": "00:18:31", "start": "00:18:26", "text": "at me.\" I said, \"Sure, Paul.\" And he"}, {"end": "00:18:33", "start": "00:18:30", "text": "says,\"I don't think you should tell"}, {"end": "00:18:35", "start": "00:18:31", "text": "anybody, Herb, because I don't think"}, {"end": "00:18:37", "start": "00:18:33", "text": "anybody's going to believe you. Matter"}, {"end": "00:18:39", "start": "00:18:35", "text": "of fact, you're going to lose your job"}, {"end": "00:18:42", "start": "00:18:37", "text": "if you tell the people.\" But I said,"}, {"end": "00:18:44", "start": "00:18:39", "text": "\"Paul, it's the truth.\" He said, \"Well,"}, {"end": "00:18:47", "start": "00:18:42", "text": "you know,\" he said, \"A lot of people"}, {"end": "00:18:50", "start": "00:18:44", "text": "won't accept the truth.\" I said, \"Well,"}, {"end": "00:18:53", "start": "00:18:47", "text": "I'll wait for the chief.\" He says, \"No,"}, {"end": "00:18:55", "start": "00:18:50", "text": "I'll go on home.\" So, I went home. And I"}, {"end": "00:18:57", "start": "00:18:53", "text": "was, you know, I really felt like"}, {"end": "00:18:59", "start": "00:18:55", "text": "everything was drained completely out of"}, {"end": "00:19:01", "start": "00:18:57", "text": "my body. And I laid down on the couch."}, {"end": "00:19:04", "start": "00:18:59", "text": "And as I laid there, I started getting a"}, {"end": "00:19:08", "start": "00:19:01", "text": "buzzing feeling in my head. And I felt"}, {"end": "00:19:10", "start": "00:19:04", "text": "like I was being I had pressure on my"}, {"end": "00:19:12", "start": "00:19:08", "text": "body. I couldn't move my arms. I"}, {"end": "00:19:15", "start": "00:19:10", "text": "couldn't You know how you try to open"}, {"end": "00:19:18", "start": "00:19:12", "text": "your mouth and you can't say help. I was"}, {"end": "00:19:20", "start": "00:19:15", "text": "trying to say help. You know, and then I"}, {"end": "00:19:22", "start": "00:19:18", "text": "went off to sleep and the phone rang and"}, {"end": "00:19:24", "start": "00:19:20", "text": "it was the chief. And the chief says,"}, {"end": "00:19:27", "start": "00:19:22", "text": "\"Get your butt down to the station right"}, {"end": "00:19:30", "start": "00:19:24", "text": "now.\" What is this? You mean you've seen"}, {"end": "00:19:31", "start": "00:19:27", "text": "a UFO? I said, I don't feel good. I'm"}, {"end": "00:19:33", "start": "00:19:30", "text": "sick and I'm not coming down to the"}, {"end": "00:19:37", "start": "00:19:31", "text": "police station. He said, I'll be right"}, {"end": "00:19:39", "start": "00:19:33", "text": "over. So, the next thing the TV came in,"}, {"end": "00:19:41", "start": "00:19:37", "text": "press came in, you know, newspapers,"}, {"end": "00:19:44", "start": "00:19:39", "text": "radio stations, and telephone calls"}, {"end": "00:19:46", "start": "00:19:41", "text": "started coming in."}, {"end": "00:19:48", "start": "00:19:44", "text": "And two days later, ridicule started"}, {"end": "00:19:51", "start": "00:19:46", "text": "coming in, believe me. And I had a man"}, {"end": "00:19:53", "start": "00:19:48", "text": "run three blocks huffing and puffing. He"}, {"end": "00:19:55", "start": "00:19:51", "text": "owned a Goodyear tire shop near Ashton,"}, {"end": "00:19:57", "start": "00:19:53", "text": "Nebraska. and he wrote me, \"Herb, if you"}, {"end": "00:19:58", "start": "00:19:55", "text": "ever see another flying saucer and it"}, {"end": "00:20:02", "start": "00:19:57", "text": "lands, you tell them I want to sell them"}, {"end": "00:20:04", "start": "00:19:58", "text": "a set of tires.\" The phone ring. This is"}, {"end": "00:20:07", "start": "00:20:02", "text": "the planet Mars. You know, I mean,"}, {"end": "00:20:09", "start": "00:20:04", "text": "really ridiculous stuff. I think though,"}, {"end": "00:20:11", "start": "00:20:07", "text": "being here in Florida, one of the"}, {"end": "00:20:13", "start": "00:20:09", "text": "neatest walkings I got was right out"}, {"end": "00:20:14", "start": "00:20:11", "text": "here in the lobby. The gentleman out"}, {"end": "00:20:16", "start": "00:20:13", "text": "there is selling books and I walked up"}, {"end": "00:20:19", "start": "00:20:14", "text": "and he says, \"Herb Shurmer.\" I says,"}, {"end": "00:20:21", "start": "00:20:16", "text": "\"Yes, my name is soandso.\" And I was"}, {"end": "00:20:22", "start": "00:20:19", "text": "taken aboard a police cruiser. And I"}, {"end": "00:20:25", "start": "00:20:21", "text": "thought that was neat. Some key"}, {"end": "00:20:28", "start": "00:20:22", "text": "takeaways from Shurmer's story are that"}, {"end": "00:20:32", "start": "00:20:25", "text": "A, his car sort of broke down, which is"}, {"end": "00:20:36", "start": "00:20:28", "text": "not uncommon for UFO encounters."}, {"end": "00:20:39", "start": "00:20:32", "text": "B, the beings seemed benevolent. They"}, {"end": "00:20:42", "start": "00:20:36", "text": "didn't seem to want uh to do him any"}, {"end": "00:20:45", "start": "00:20:39", "text": "harm. and see once aboard the craft they"}, {"end": "00:20:47", "start": "00:20:42", "text": "took him to all sorts of different"}, {"end": "00:20:49", "start": "00:20:45", "text": "levels, showed him around, gave him the"}, {"end": "00:20:53", "start": "00:20:47", "text": "tour of the ship, which is once again"}, {"end": "00:20:55", "start": "00:20:49", "text": "not uncommon during abductions. Also,"}, {"end": "00:20:58", "start": "00:20:53", "text": "the physical sensations that he felt is"}, {"end": "00:21:01", "start": "00:20:55", "text": "something that reverberates throughout"}, {"end": "00:21:03", "start": "00:20:58", "text": "the UFO abduction history. Uh, namely"}, {"end": "00:21:05", "start": "00:21:01", "text": "this sort of tingly feeling, which I"}, {"end": "00:21:06", "start": "00:21:03", "text": "thought was really interesting, and the"}, {"end": "00:21:09", "start": "00:21:05", "text": "fact that he really couldn't look away"}, {"end": "00:21:11", "start": "00:21:06", "text": "from them, which we'll get into in a"}, {"end": "00:21:15", "start": "00:21:09", "text": "second. And then post-abduction was this"}, {"end": "00:21:17", "start": "00:21:11", "text": "feeling of being ill, this sickness"}, {"end": "00:21:20", "start": "00:21:15", "text": "almost like radiation poisoning. Now,"}, {"end": "00:21:22", "start": "00:21:17", "text": "we've seen this with Antonio via Boas"}, {"end": "00:21:24", "start": "00:21:20", "text": "and we've seen this with honestly so"}, {"end": "00:21:26", "start": "00:21:22", "text": "many other abduction cases, including a"}, {"end": "00:21:28", "start": "00:21:24", "text": "few that we're going to look into in"}, {"end": "00:21:30", "start": "00:21:26", "text": "just a second. Now folks, there are some"}, {"end": "00:21:32", "start": "00:21:28", "text": "really, really interesting connections"}, {"end": "00:21:35", "start": "00:21:30", "text": "that I urge you to stick around for to"}, {"end": "00:21:37", "start": "00:21:32", "text": "later on in the video because"}, {"end": "00:21:39", "start": "00:21:35", "text": "the beings themselves,"}, {"end": "00:21:41", "start": "00:21:37", "text": "their uniforms, and their emblems"}, {"end": "00:21:44", "start": "00:21:39", "text": "actually show up in what seems to be"}, {"end": "00:21:46", "start": "00:21:41", "text": "multiple other abduction encounters. And"}, {"end": "00:21:48", "start": "00:21:44", "text": "right now, I've just been informed that"}, {"end": "00:21:51", "start": "00:21:46", "text": "we have Herbert Shurmer's or one of"}, {"end": "00:21:53", "start": "00:21:48", "text": "Herbert's Herbert Shurmer. I'm just"}, {"end": "00:21:55", "start": "00:21:51", "text": "gonna say Herb because Herbert Turmer"}, {"end": "00:21:58", "start": "00:21:53", "text": "sounds I can't say it without sounding"}, {"end": "00:22:01", "start": "00:21:55", "text": "like Kermit the Frog. Uh reporting here"}, {"end": "00:22:06", "start": "00:21:58", "text": "for Herbert Churmer."}, {"end": "00:22:08", "start": "00:22:01", "text": "Uh we have pardon me Herb's"}, {"end": "00:22:12", "start": "00:22:06", "text": "regression session. Now the first one he"}, {"end": "00:22:14", "start": "00:22:08", "text": "did with Dr. uh Leo Sprinkle is it was"}, {"end": "00:22:16", "start": "00:22:12", "text": "given to Herb and we just don't have"}, {"end": "00:22:18", "start": "00:22:14", "text": "access to that one now. He's come out in"}, {"end": "00:22:19", "start": "00:22:16", "text": "several interviews and sort of dropped"}, {"end": "00:22:20", "start": "00:22:18", "text": "little things here and there and"}, {"end": "00:22:23", "start": "00:22:19", "text": "researchers have dropped little things"}, {"end": "00:22:25", "start": "00:22:20", "text": "here and there. But in a book that I"}, {"end": "00:22:28", "start": "00:22:23", "text": "just found out that was published called"}, {"end": "00:22:31", "start": "00:22:25", "text": "Gods, Demons, and UFOs,"}, {"end": "00:22:34", "start": "00:22:28", "text": "we have Loring G. Williams, the"}, {"end": "00:22:37", "start": "00:22:31", "text": "hypnotist from Hinsdale, New Hampshire."}, {"end": "00:22:40", "start": "00:22:34", "text": "We have his regression session recorded"}, {"end": "00:22:43", "start": "00:22:37", "text": "at the Holiday Inn in De Moines, Iowa."}, {"end": "00:22:46", "start": "00:22:40", "text": "And here's what emerged from Shurmer's"}, {"end": "00:22:50", "start": "00:22:43", "text": "mind. So, Williams being the hypnotist"}, {"end": "00:22:52", "start": "00:22:46", "text": "and Shurmer being the subject. When I"}, {"end": "00:22:54", "start": "00:22:50", "text": "count to three, you're going back to the"}, {"end": "00:22:59", "start": "00:22:52", "text": "morning of December 3. Just before you"}, {"end": "00:23:01", "start": "00:22:54", "text": "approach the UFO. 1 2 3."}, {"end": "00:23:03", "start": "00:22:59", "text": "What are you doing? Driving down the"}, {"end": "00:23:06", "start": "00:23:01", "text": "highway, listening to a wreck report on"}, {"end": "00:23:09", "start": "00:23:03", "text": "the police radio. It's a bad wreck out"}, {"end": "00:23:11", "start": "00:23:06", "text": "on the interstate highway. H"}, {"end": "00:23:15", "start": "00:23:09", "text": "What's the matter?"}, {"end": "00:23:17", "start": "00:23:11", "text": "Thought I saw something. Hm."}, {"end": "00:23:19", "start": "00:23:15", "text": "What did you see? What time is it? I"}, {"end": "00:23:21", "start": "00:23:17", "text": "better check my watch. Well, what time"}, {"end": "00:23:24", "start": "00:23:19", "text": "is it?"}, {"end": "00:23:26", "start": "00:23:21", "text": "2:30 in the morning. Huh?"}, {"end": "00:23:28", "start": "00:23:24", "text": "What's that up ahead? There's something"}, {"end": "00:23:30", "start": "00:23:26", "text": "on the road ahead. Probably a trucker"}, {"end": "00:23:33", "start": "00:23:28", "text": "with a flat tire. I'll turn on my"}, {"end": "00:23:36", "start": "00:23:30", "text": "brights. Whoa."}, {"end": "00:23:37", "start": "00:23:33", "text": "The row of lights are very bright."}, {"end": "00:23:41", "start": "00:23:36", "text": "They're flashing. The red lights are"}, {"end": "00:23:44", "start": "00:23:37", "text": "flashing real fast. My god. What is that"}, {"end": "00:23:47", "start": "00:23:41", "text": "thing? What? It's leaving the place and"}, {"end": "00:23:50", "start": "00:23:44", "text": "going up on the hill."}, {"end": "00:23:53", "start": "00:23:47", "text": "I'd better follow. Where are you now?"}, {"end": "00:23:55", "start": "00:23:50", "text": "Going up the hill toward the light. It's"}, {"end": "00:23:58", "start": "00:23:53", "text": "very bright. Very, very bright. The"}, {"end": "00:24:02", "start": "00:23:55", "text": "lights are flashing. I'll call. I'll"}, {"end": "00:24:05", "start": "00:23:58", "text": "call. Who are you going to call?"}, {"end": "00:24:08", "start": "00:24:02", "text": "The police at Wahoo. 408. Wahoo. 408."}, {"end": "00:24:09", "start": "00:24:05", "text": "Come in. Wahoo. Radio ain't working."}, {"end": "00:24:13", "start": "00:24:08", "text": "What happened to the engine? What is"}, {"end": "00:24:14", "start": "00:24:09", "text": "that thing? Describe it for me. It's"}, {"end": "00:24:16", "start": "00:24:13", "text": "made of metal and it's shaped like a"}, {"end": "00:24:19", "start": "00:24:14", "text": "football. The object has a silverish"}, {"end": "00:24:21", "start": "00:24:16", "text": "glow around it. There's a flashing light"}, {"end": "00:24:24", "start": "00:24:19", "text": "underneath it. It came in over the"}, {"end": "00:24:27", "start": "00:24:21", "text": "field. Hung there for a minute and it's"}, {"end": "00:24:28", "start": "00:24:24", "text": "flickering on and off. It is making a"}, {"end": "00:24:30", "start": "00:24:27", "text": "whooshing sound and the lights are"}, {"end": "00:24:35", "start": "00:24:28", "text": "flickering very rapidly. How fast are"}, {"end": "00:24:39", "start": "00:24:30", "text": "the lights flickering? Jiminy Christmas."}, {"end": "00:24:42", "start": "00:24:35", "text": "It must be going about twice a second at"}, {"end": "00:24:44", "start": "00:24:39", "text": "120 times a minute. Oh no, it can't be."}, {"end": "00:24:46", "start": "00:24:42", "text": "What's happening?"}, {"end": "00:24:47", "start": "00:24:44", "text": "There are legs shooting out underneath"}, {"end": "00:24:50", "start": "00:24:46", "text": "it."}, {"end": "00:24:53", "start": "00:24:47", "text": "It's hard to see. It's very bright. I"}, {"end": "00:24:56", "start": "00:24:50", "text": "think there are three legs coming out."}, {"end": "00:24:58", "start": "00:24:53", "text": "They're telescoping. One, two. Now it is"}, {"end": "00:25:02", "start": "00:24:56", "text": "settling on the ground. Are you afraid?"}, {"end": "00:25:03", "start": "00:24:58", "text": "You're damned right. My hand is shaking."}, {"end": "00:25:07", "start": "00:25:02", "text": "Why don't you start your cruiser and"}, {"end": "00:25:09", "start": "00:25:03", "text": "leave? I'm being prevented."}, {"end": "00:25:11", "start": "00:25:07", "text": "What do you mean being prevented?"}, {"end": "00:25:15", "start": "00:25:09", "text": "There's something in my mind. I don't"}, {"end": "00:25:18", "start": "00:25:11", "text": "know. Lord. Oh no. Oh no."}, {"end": "00:25:20", "start": "00:25:15", "text": "What's wrong now? They're getting out."}, {"end": "00:25:23", "start": "00:25:18", "text": "The one. He's approaching the front of"}, {"end": "00:25:25", "start": "00:25:20", "text": "the cruiser. Oh no. It can't be. It"}, {"end": "00:25:27", "start": "00:25:23", "text": "can't be. I'm going to have my revolver"}, {"end": "00:25:30", "start": "00:25:25", "text": "ready. I'm being prevented from drawing"}, {"end": "00:25:32", "start": "00:25:27", "text": "my revolver."}, {"end": "00:25:35", "start": "00:25:30", "text": "Something in my mind. The one in front"}, {"end": "00:25:37", "start": "00:25:32", "text": "of the car has a funny thing he's"}, {"end": "00:25:40", "start": "00:25:35", "text": "holding up. The stuff is covering the"}, {"end": "00:25:42", "start": "00:25:37", "text": "car and going all around it. What is"}, {"end": "00:25:46", "start": "00:25:40", "text": "this stuff? What color is it? It's like"}, {"end": "00:25:48", "start": "00:25:42", "text": "a greenish gas or something. Huh? It's"}, {"end": "00:25:50", "start": "00:25:46", "text": "all around the cruiser now. My god."}, {"end": "00:25:53", "start": "00:25:48", "text": "What's happening? What's What's he"}, {"end": "00:25:55", "start": "00:25:50", "text": "doing? Who do you mean? The one in front"}, {"end": "00:25:58", "start": "00:25:53", "text": "of the car. He's pulling something out"}, {"end": "00:25:59", "start": "00:25:55", "text": "of his holster. He's pointing it at the"}, {"end": "00:26:03", "start": "00:25:58", "text": "windshield and pointing it toward me."}, {"end": "00:26:04", "start": "00:25:59", "text": "It's bright. Very bright. How bright?"}, {"end": "00:26:08", "start": "00:26:03", "text": "about like a flash thing on a camera,"}, {"end": "00:26:11", "start": "00:26:04", "text": "only brighter now. What is happening? I"}, {"end": "00:26:13", "start": "00:26:08", "text": "was paralyzed and passed out."}, {"end": "00:26:15", "start": "00:26:11", "text": "I can't remember anything. It's all"}, {"end": "00:26:18", "start": "00:26:13", "text": "black. What is the next thing you"}, {"end": "00:26:20", "start": "00:26:15", "text": "remember?"}, {"end": "00:26:24", "start": "00:26:18", "text": "My eyes are opening. I'm rolling down"}, {"end": "00:26:25", "start": "00:26:20", "text": "the window. There's two of them. I"}, {"end": "00:26:29", "start": "00:26:24", "text": "didn't see the other one. He grabbed me"}, {"end": "00:26:30", "start": "00:26:25", "text": "by the side of the neck. Oh. Oh. Oh. It"}, {"end": "00:26:33", "start": "00:26:29", "text": "hurt for a minute when he pushed against"}, {"end": "00:26:35", "start": "00:26:30", "text": "the side of my neck."}, {"end": "00:26:38", "start": "00:26:33", "text": "Which side of your neck did he touch?"}, {"end": "00:26:40", "start": "00:26:35", "text": "The left side, just below the ear. Was"}, {"end": "00:26:42", "start": "00:26:38", "text": "there anything in his hand? I can't see"}, {"end": "00:26:44", "start": "00:26:40", "text": "too well. There might have been. Maybe"}, {"end": "00:26:47", "start": "00:26:42", "text": "there was something about his glove that"}, {"end": "00:26:50", "start": "00:26:44", "text": "scratched my neck. Was this the point"}, {"end": "00:26:54", "start": "00:26:47", "text": "where the welts appeared later? Yes."}, {"end": "00:26:56", "start": "00:26:50", "text": "What happened next? I can't remember."}, {"end": "00:26:58", "start": "00:26:54", "text": "Now I'm opening the door and standing up"}, {"end": "00:27:01", "start": "00:26:56", "text": "outside the car. The one is looking"}, {"end": "00:27:05", "start": "00:26:58", "text": "directly into my eyes."}, {"end": "00:27:07", "start": "00:27:01", "text": "I don't like him to do that. Why not?"}, {"end": "00:27:11", "start": "00:27:05", "text": "His eyes are different from ours."}, {"end": "00:27:13", "start": "00:27:07", "text": "They're more like a cat's eyes. Yes. Are"}, {"end": "00:27:15", "start": "00:27:11", "text": "you speaking to this person?"}, {"end": "00:27:17", "start": "00:27:13", "text": "He's asking me if I'm the watchman over"}, {"end": "00:27:19", "start": "00:27:15", "text": "the town. I'm telling him I am a"}, {"end": "00:27:21", "start": "00:27:17", "text": "policeman."}, {"end": "00:27:25", "start": "00:27:19", "text": "He used the word watchman. That's an"}, {"end": "00:27:28", "start": "00:27:21", "text": "unusual word. Yes. Did he speak with his"}, {"end": "00:27:30", "start": "00:27:25", "text": "mouth or through the mind? I can't"}, {"end": "00:27:33", "start": "00:27:28", "text": "remember. He's standing perfectly still"}, {"end": "00:27:36", "start": "00:27:30", "text": "and staring into my eyes. I'm trying to"}, {"end": "00:27:38", "start": "00:27:33", "text": "look away. I can't remove my eyes from"}, {"end": "00:27:40", "start": "00:27:36", "text": "his."}, {"end": "00:27:43", "start": "00:27:38", "text": "He's asking me questions."}, {"end": "00:27:46", "start": "00:27:40", "text": "Tell us about them."}, {"end": "00:27:49", "start": "00:27:43", "text": "So before I continue, I just want to"}, {"end": "00:27:53", "start": "00:27:46", "text": "quick note here. I did fail to mention"}, {"end": "00:27:54", "start": "00:27:49", "text": "that in the previous interview, this"}, {"end": "00:27:56", "start": "00:27:53", "text": "sort of press conference that he held"}, {"end": "00:27:58", "start": "00:27:54", "text": "that we just read through, he had"}, {"end": "00:27:59", "start": "00:27:56", "text": "mentioned that there was a rod, some"}, {"end": "00:28:01", "start": "00:27:58", "text": "type of rod with a ball on the end of"}, {"end": "00:28:04", "start": "00:27:59", "text": "it. He also had mentioned that there was"}, {"end": "00:28:06", "start": "00:28:01", "text": "some other oval squarish type thing with"}, {"end": "00:28:08", "start": "00:28:04", "text": "a lens on the end of it that uh when"}, {"end": "00:28:10", "start": "00:28:06", "text": "pressed against his neck made a prick."}, {"end": "00:28:13", "start": "00:28:08", "text": "It's interesting that he doesn't mention"}, {"end": "00:28:15", "start": "00:28:10", "text": "it here. Now, remember this is prior"}, {"end": "00:28:18", "start": "00:28:13", "text": "what we're reading now to what we had"}, {"end": "00:28:19", "start": "00:28:15", "text": "read previously. What we read previously"}, {"end": "00:28:21", "start": "00:28:18", "text": "is after he' done all the regressions"}, {"end": "00:28:23", "start": "00:28:19", "text": "and sort of in his mind put together"}, {"end": "00:28:25", "start": "00:28:21", "text": "this story. So it's important to note"}, {"end": "00:28:28", "start": "00:28:23", "text": "that during this regression there is no"}, {"end": "00:28:31", "start": "00:28:25", "text": "mention of an instrument. Are we"}, {"end": "00:28:34", "start": "00:28:28", "text": "witnessing some type of false memory due"}, {"end": "00:28:36", "start": "00:28:31", "text": "to the zeitgeist of UFO encounters and"}, {"end": "00:28:39", "start": "00:28:34", "text": "the information that's already out"}, {"end": "00:28:42", "start": "00:28:36", "text": "there? Is he embellishing based on what"}, {"end": "00:28:44", "start": "00:28:39", "text": "he's heard from other stories or simply"}, {"end": "00:28:47", "start": "00:28:42", "text": "adding it in"}, {"end": "00:28:49", "start": "00:28:44", "text": "subconsciously? Another thing to note is"}, {"end": "00:28:50", "start": "00:28:47", "text": "the eyes. We talk about this a lot."}, {"end": "00:28:53", "start": "00:28:49", "text": "We've mentioned it with Dan Burrish."}, {"end": "00:28:55", "start": "00:28:50", "text": "We've mentioned it with Antonio Vas."}, {"end": "00:28:56", "start": "00:28:53", "text": "We've mentioned it with several other"}, {"end": "00:28:59", "start": "00:28:55", "text": "abduction encounters that we've looked"}, {"end": "00:29:01", "start": "00:28:56", "text": "into. But the fact is that with these"}, {"end": "00:29:05", "start": "00:28:59", "text": "things, apparently when you look at them"}, {"end": "00:29:08", "start": "00:29:01", "text": "in the eye, you can't move. The eyes"}, {"end": "00:29:12", "start": "00:29:05", "text": "have some type of locking mechanism"}, {"end": "00:29:14", "start": "00:29:08", "text": "that prevent you from,"}, {"end": "00:29:18", "start": "00:29:12", "text": "you know, veering your gaze. I'm"}, {"end": "00:29:19", "start": "00:29:14", "text": "convinced more than ever that a big part"}, {"end": "00:29:22", "start": "00:29:18", "text": "of this telepathy or at least the"}, {"end": "00:29:26", "start": "00:29:19", "text": "technology that allows telepathy to"}, {"end": "00:29:28", "start": "00:29:22", "text": "happen requires the eyes to lock."}, {"end": "00:29:31", "start": "00:29:26", "text": "Very interesting. He's pointing to the"}, {"end": "00:29:33", "start": "00:29:28", "text": "power plant and asking, \"Is this the"}, {"end": "00:29:37", "start": "00:29:31", "text": "only source of power you have?\" I said,"}, {"end": "00:29:39", "start": "00:29:33", "text": "\"Yes.\" I asked him if he was real. He"}, {"end": "00:29:41", "start": "00:29:37", "text": "said he was very real. He's reaching out"}, {"end": "00:29:44", "start": "00:29:39", "text": "his hand and placing it on my shoulder."}, {"end": "00:29:47", "start": "00:29:41", "text": "He's squeezing my shoulder."}, {"end": "00:29:48", "start": "00:29:44", "text": "Huh? I'm not dreaming. He's asking me if"}, {"end": "00:29:51", "start": "00:29:47", "text": "I would ever fire on a spaceship. I"}, {"end": "00:29:53", "start": "00:29:48", "text": "replied, \"No.\" He's asking me if I would"}, {"end": "00:29:55", "start": "00:29:51", "text": "like to go aboard the ship for a few"}, {"end": "00:29:57", "start": "00:29:53", "text": "minutes. I'm asking how the ship is"}, {"end": "00:30:00", "start": "00:29:55", "text": "operated. He's telling me it is by"}, {"end": "00:30:02", "start": "00:29:57", "text": "reversible electromagnetism,"}, {"end": "00:30:04", "start": "00:30:00", "text": "which has something to do with gravity."}, {"end": "00:30:07", "start": "00:30:02", "text": "I'm walking alongside him. We're"}, {"end": "00:30:09", "start": "00:30:04", "text": "approaching the ship. The other one is"}, {"end": "00:30:11", "start": "00:30:07", "text": "right behind us."}, {"end": "00:30:13", "start": "00:30:09", "text": "The other one keeps looking back at the"}, {"end": "00:30:16", "start": "00:30:11", "text": "cruiser. Hm. The lights in the engine"}, {"end": "00:30:18", "start": "00:30:13", "text": "are still dead on it. We're walking"}, {"end": "00:30:20", "start": "00:30:16", "text": "right underneath the craft. He's telling"}, {"end": "00:30:23", "start": "00:30:18", "text": "me to climb up. Right beneath the bottom"}, {"end": "00:30:25", "start": "00:30:20", "text": "is a circle deal. The circle deal is"}, {"end": "00:30:28", "start": "00:30:23", "text": "opening back and there's a ladder coming"}, {"end": "00:30:30", "start": "00:30:25", "text": "down with a zoop sound. It's in"}, {"end": "00:30:34", "start": "00:30:28", "text": "telescoping sections. It's cold. Very"}, {"end": "00:30:36", "start": "00:30:30", "text": "cold. What is cold? The metal on the"}, {"end": "00:30:39", "start": "00:30:34", "text": "ladder is much colder than it should be."}, {"end": "00:30:41", "start": "00:30:36", "text": "We're going up the ladder into the ship."}, {"end": "00:30:43", "start": "00:30:39", "text": "Another pause here. And again, this"}, {"end": "00:30:46", "start": "00:30:41", "text": "statement was made"}, {"end": "00:30:48", "start": "00:30:43", "text": "after these regression sessions."}, {"end": "00:30:50", "start": "00:30:46", "text": "So, it's really interesting because"}, {"end": "00:30:54", "start": "00:30:48", "text": "during the statement, he said he floated"}, {"end": "00:30:56", "start": "00:30:50", "text": "up into the craft, which again we hear"}, {"end": "00:31:00", "start": "00:30:54", "text": "time and time again from other contact"}, {"end": "00:31:02", "start": "00:30:56", "text": "abductee stories. But here, he fails to"}, {"end": "00:31:04", "start": "00:31:00", "text": "mention it during his regression. Hm. It"}, {"end": "00:31:07", "start": "00:31:02", "text": "isn't very big in there. What's that"}, {"end": "00:31:10", "start": "00:31:04", "text": "noise? Oh, he's pointing to the ladder"}, {"end": "00:31:12", "start": "00:31:07", "text": "which is retracting up into the ship."}, {"end": "00:31:16", "start": "00:31:10", "text": "The circle deal is closing. Boy, that's"}, {"end": "00:31:18", "start": "00:31:12", "text": "neat. Whoops. I better keep my head down"}, {"end": "00:31:21", "start": "00:31:16", "text": "or I'm going to hit something. What will"}, {"end": "00:31:23", "start": "00:31:18", "text": "you hit? There are all kinds of boxes"}, {"end": "00:31:25", "start": "00:31:21", "text": "and gadgets and things hanging down from"}, {"end": "00:31:27", "start": "00:31:23", "text": "the ceiling. Please describe what you"}, {"end": "00:31:30", "start": "00:31:25", "text": "see."}, {"end": "00:31:33", "start": "00:31:27", "text": "I'm standing in a room that is about 26"}, {"end": "00:31:36", "start": "00:31:30", "text": "ft by 20 ft in area. The ceiling is"}, {"end": "00:31:39", "start": "00:31:33", "text": "about 6 ft high. The lighting in here is"}, {"end": "00:31:42", "start": "00:31:36", "text": "red and it's coming down from strips in"}, {"end": "00:31:44", "start": "00:31:39", "text": "the ceiling. They glow in a reddish way."}, {"end": "00:31:46", "start": "00:31:42", "text": "Over to this side are a couple of"}, {"end": "00:31:49", "start": "00:31:44", "text": "chairs. They are around a panel. Must be"}, {"end": "00:31:51", "start": "00:31:46", "text": "a control panel of some type. There's a"}, {"end": "00:31:53", "start": "00:31:49", "text": "wide screen above the console. It is"}, {"end": "00:31:55", "start": "00:31:51", "text": "tilted down so a person sitting in the"}, {"end": "00:31:59", "start": "00:31:53", "text": "chair can look up at it. It must be some"}, {"end": "00:32:01", "start": "00:31:55", "text": "kind of vision screen or radar. No, it"}, {"end": "00:32:03", "start": "00:31:59", "text": "is much too big for a radar. I know what"}, {"end": "00:32:06", "start": "00:32:01", "text": "a radar screen looks like. That ain't"}, {"end": "00:32:08", "start": "00:32:03", "text": "it. You can look out the port holes that"}, {"end": "00:32:11", "start": "00:32:06", "text": "run around the ship. Hm. Now he's"}, {"end": "00:32:12", "start": "00:32:08", "text": "showing me how how the craft operates."}, {"end": "00:32:16", "start": "00:32:11", "text": "Well, that's really interesting because"}, {"end": "00:32:16", "start": "00:32:12", "text": "again, in 1967,668"}, {"end": "00:32:22", "start": "00:32:16", "text": "or whenever this was done,"}, {"end": "00:32:23", "start": "00:32:19", "text": "I wouldn't have had big TV screens,"}, {"end": "00:32:26", "start": "00:32:22", "text": "right? So, it really is interesting that"}, {"end": "00:32:27", "start": "00:32:23", "text": "he's describing this giant"}, {"end": "00:32:29", "start": "00:32:26", "text": "what seems to be like a television"}, {"end": "00:32:33", "start": "00:32:27", "text": "screen, but he fails to have the"}, {"end": "00:32:35", "start": "00:32:29", "text": "vocabulary to accurately describe it."}, {"end": "00:32:37", "start": "00:32:33", "text": "The closest thing that he can describe"}, {"end": "00:32:39", "start": "00:32:35", "text": "it to is like a radar screen, but he's"}, {"end": "00:32:43", "start": "00:32:37", "text": "like, \"Ah, even that.\" So, it's very"}, {"end": "00:32:46", "start": "00:32:39", "text": "interesting. What else did you see? Boy,"}, {"end": "00:32:47", "start": "00:32:43", "text": "I can see a lot of things. There are"}, {"end": "00:32:50", "start": "00:32:46", "text": "tubes and pipes running everywhere"}, {"end": "00:32:51", "start": "00:32:47", "text": "inside here. He's asking me if I would"}, {"end": "00:32:53", "start": "00:32:50", "text": "like to see how some of their things"}, {"end": "00:32:56", "start": "00:32:51", "text": "work. In my mind, I'm thinking no"}, {"end": "00:32:58", "start": "00:32:53", "text": "because I want to go home. But something"}, {"end": "00:33:01", "start": "00:32:56", "text": "tells me to say yes. He's showing me the"}, {"end": "00:33:02", "start": "00:32:58", "text": "things that look like computer machines."}, {"end": "00:33:04", "start": "00:33:01", "text": "He pushes a button and the tapes start"}, {"end": "00:33:07", "start": "00:33:02", "text": "running."}, {"end": "00:33:09", "start": "00:33:04", "text": "I'm starting to tingle again. The tapes"}, {"end": "00:33:11", "start": "00:33:07", "text": "run round and round and the rows of"}, {"end": "00:33:14", "start": "00:33:09", "text": "lights flicker on and off. Well, that's"}, {"end": "00:33:19", "start": "00:33:11", "text": "an interesting detail because now we're"}, {"end": "00:33:22", "start": "00:33:14", "text": "talking about some analog technology,"}, {"end": "00:33:25", "start": "00:33:19", "text": "which let's face it, living in the"}, {"end": "00:33:29", "start": "00:33:22", "text": "future as we are today,"}, {"end": "00:33:32", "start": "00:33:25", "text": "we'd only use for aesthetic purposes."}, {"end": "00:33:35", "start": "00:33:29", "text": "You know, we found that digitizing"}, {"end": "00:33:38", "start": "00:33:32", "text": "telecommunications and audiovisisual is"}, {"end": "00:33:41", "start": "00:33:35", "text": "much more optimal. Perhaps he's mistaken"}, {"end": "00:33:44", "start": "00:33:38", "text": "these turning things for tapes. Did he"}, {"end": "00:33:46", "start": "00:33:41", "text": "tell you why he was doing this?"}, {"end": "00:33:48", "start": "00:33:44", "text": "Yes, they did. No one talked for a"}, {"end": "00:33:51", "start": "00:33:46", "text": "while. He's punching buttons on the"}, {"end": "00:33:55", "start": "00:33:48", "text": "machine through my mind. Somehow he's"}, {"end": "00:33:57", "start": "00:33:51", "text": "telling me things. There is something."}, {"end": "00:34:00", "start": "00:33:55", "text": "He's speaking. This is an observation"}, {"end": "00:34:02", "start": "00:33:57", "text": "craft with a crew of four men. It is"}, {"end": "00:34:05", "start": "00:34:00", "text": "used for observation all over the world."}, {"end": "00:34:08", "start": "00:34:02", "text": "There are several more like it. Hm. No,"}, {"end": "00:34:10", "start": "00:34:05", "text": "they do not. Who are you talking to? Dr."}, {"end": "00:34:12", "start": "00:34:08", "text": "Sprinkle."}, {"end": "00:34:13", "start": "00:34:10", "text": "Don't worry about the good doctor now."}, {"end": "00:34:16", "start": "00:34:12", "text": "Just tell us what's happening inside the"}, {"end": "00:34:19", "start": "00:34:13", "text": "craft. It's pretty funny that there's"}, {"end": "00:34:20", "start": "00:34:16", "text": "this sort of confusion happening in his"}, {"end": "00:34:22", "start": "00:34:19", "text": "mind. He's clearly in a hypnotic state"}, {"end": "00:34:24", "start": "00:34:20", "text": "now and he's confused about where"}, {"end": "00:34:27", "start": "00:34:22", "text": "exactly he is or who he's talking to."}, {"end": "00:34:28", "start": "00:34:24", "text": "There's very much to explain. There are"}, {"end": "00:34:30", "start": "00:34:27", "text": "various types of devices sending and"}, {"end": "00:34:32", "start": "00:34:28", "text": "receiving which are much further"}, {"end": "00:34:35", "start": "00:34:30", "text": "advanced than ours. The guiding devices"}, {"end": "00:34:36", "start": "00:34:32", "text": "in the center of the craft. They have"}, {"end": "00:34:39", "start": "00:34:35", "text": "been observing us for a long period of"}, {"end": "00:34:42", "start": "00:34:36", "text": "time and they think that if they slowly"}, {"end": "00:34:44", "start": "00:34:39", "text": "slowly put out reports and have their"}, {"end": "00:34:47", "start": "00:34:42", "text": "contacts state the truth, it will help"}, {"end": "00:34:49", "start": "00:34:44", "text": "them. He is explaining to a certain"}, {"end": "00:34:51", "start": "00:34:47", "text": "extent that they want to puzzle people."}, {"end": "00:34:53", "start": "00:34:49", "text": "They know they are being seen too"}, {"end": "00:34:56", "start": "00:34:51", "text": "frequently and they are trying to"}, {"end": "00:34:58", "start": "00:34:53", "text": "confuse the public's mind. He is telling"}, {"end": "00:35:00", "start": "00:34:56", "text": "me they want everyone to believe sum in"}, {"end": "00:35:03", "start": "00:34:58", "text": "them so we will be open to their"}, {"end": "00:35:07", "start": "00:35:00", "text": "invasion. And think carefully now. Did"}, {"end": "00:35:08", "start": "00:35:03", "text": "he use the word invasion? Yes."}, {"end": "00:35:11", "start": "00:35:07", "text": "And this would mean they are operating"}, {"end": "00:35:13", "start": "00:35:08", "text": "to conquer the world. Oh no no no. He"}, {"end": "00:35:15", "start": "00:35:11", "text": "used the word invasion but meant it in a"}, {"end": "00:35:18", "start": "00:35:13", "text": "friendly way. He said it would be the"}, {"end": "00:35:20", "start": "00:35:15", "text": "showing of themselves completely. The"}, {"end": "00:35:21", "start": "00:35:18", "text": "public should consider in their minds"}, {"end": "00:35:24", "start": "00:35:20", "text": "that they should have no fear of these"}, {"end": "00:35:26", "start": "00:35:21", "text": "beings because they are not hostile."}, {"end": "00:35:30", "start": "00:35:24", "text": "This is interesting. Here we're talking"}, {"end": "00:35:34", "start": "00:35:26", "text": "about essentially aliens creating a scop"}, {"end": "00:35:35", "start": "00:35:30", "text": "saying that they want to puzzle people."}, {"end": "00:35:36", "start": "00:35:34", "text": "They know they're being seen too"}, {"end": "00:35:41", "start": "00:35:35", "text": "frequently and they are trying to"}, {"end": "00:35:44", "start": "00:35:36", "text": "confuse the public's mind. Now, that can"}, {"end": "00:35:47", "start": "00:35:41", "text": "possibly be the best explanation for the"}, {"end": "00:35:49", "start": "00:35:44", "text": "varying amount of sightings of crafts"}, {"end": "00:35:51", "start": "00:35:47", "text": "and beings and different, you know,"}, {"end": "00:35:52", "start": "00:35:49", "text": "interactions that people have had"}, {"end": "00:35:54", "start": "00:35:51", "text": "throughout the decades. That would"}, {"end": "00:35:58", "start": "00:35:52", "text": "explain everything. It's just them"}, {"end": "00:36:00", "start": "00:35:54", "text": "trying to remain aloof."}, {"end": "00:36:02", "start": "00:35:58", "text": "Interesting take. How long have they"}, {"end": "00:36:05", "start": "00:36:00", "text": "been watching us? He said they've been"}, {"end": "00:36:08", "start": "00:36:02", "text": "here for a very long time. Did they tell"}, {"end": "00:36:11", "start": "00:36:05", "text": "you exactly why they were here? No, sir."}, {"end": "00:36:12", "start": "00:36:08", "text": "They did not. Where are they from? They"}, {"end": "00:36:15", "start": "00:36:11", "text": "said they're from a nearby galaxy. They"}, {"end": "00:36:18", "start": "00:36:12", "text": "told me they had bases on Venus and some"}, {"end": "00:36:20", "start": "00:36:15", "text": "of the other planets in our galaxy."}, {"end": "00:36:23", "start": "00:36:18", "text": "Now, is there any defense against UFOs"}, {"end": "00:36:24", "start": "00:36:20", "text": "and the people in them?"}, {"end": "00:36:26", "start": "00:36:23", "text": "I would not even disclose that to the"}, {"end": "00:36:28", "start": "00:36:24", "text": "air force because they would try to"}, {"end": "00:36:30", "start": "00:36:26", "text": "destroy them. Their beings can be"}, {"end": "00:36:32", "start": "00:36:28", "text": "stopped just like we can be stopped."}, {"end": "00:36:34", "start": "00:36:30", "text": "Bullets, but you cannot bust into one of"}, {"end": "00:36:37", "start": "00:36:32", "text": "these flying saucers."}, {"end": "00:36:38", "start": "00:36:34", "text": "Yes, but is there a defense against"}, {"end": "00:36:41", "start": "00:36:37", "text": "them?"}, {"end": "00:36:42", "start": "00:36:38", "text": "Do we have a defense against them? You"}, {"end": "00:36:44", "start": "00:36:41", "text": "can't bust into a ship which you know"}, {"end": "00:36:47", "start": "00:36:42", "text": "nothing about. They are made of a metal"}, {"end": "00:36:50", "start": "00:36:44", "text": "that can withstand tremendous heats. The"}, {"end": "00:36:53", "start": "00:36:47", "text": "only crafts now they said UFOs have been"}, {"end": "00:36:54", "start": "00:36:50", "text": "knocked out of the air by radar. Before"}, {"end": "00:36:56", "start": "00:36:53", "text": "they hit the ground, the mother ship"}, {"end": "00:36:58", "start": "00:36:54", "text": "destroys them by a built-in mechanism"}, {"end": "00:37:00", "start": "00:36:56", "text": "that blows them up and burns them. How"}, {"end": "00:37:05", "start": "00:36:58", "text": "can radar knock them out? I don't know."}, {"end": "00:37:06", "start": "00:37:00", "text": "There's something some ioni. It's a long"}, {"end": "00:37:08", "start": "00:37:05", "text": "word which I can't pronounce."}, {"end": "00:37:09", "start": "00:37:06", "text": "Ionization."}, {"end": "00:37:11", "start": "00:37:08", "text": "I think it has something to do with"}, {"end": "00:37:13", "start": "00:37:09", "text": "that. Yes, that's the word. How do you"}, {"end": "00:37:15", "start": "00:37:11", "text": "know all of these things? I don't know."}, {"end": "00:37:16", "start": "00:37:13", "text": "There's something in my mind. He's"}, {"end": "00:37:18", "start": "00:37:15", "text": "saying that while we were talking,"}, {"end": "00:37:20", "start": "00:37:16", "text": "they're also putting things into my mind"}, {"end": "00:37:22", "start": "00:37:18", "text": "about them. He's saying they do this"}, {"end": "00:37:24", "start": "00:37:20", "text": "with everyone they contact. Okay,"}, {"end": "00:37:27", "start": "00:37:22", "text": "another pause here. Very interesting."}, {"end": "00:37:29", "start": "00:37:24", "text": "You know, he did mention that they were"}, {"end": "00:37:32", "start": "00:37:27", "text": "flooding his brain with information, not"}, {"end": "00:37:35", "start": "00:37:29", "text": "unlike what Dr. Michael Masters was"}, {"end": "00:37:38", "start": "00:37:32", "text": "talking about when he had some type of"}, {"end": "00:37:41", "start": "00:37:35", "text": "strange encounter with, you know, what"}, {"end": "00:37:44", "start": "00:37:38", "text": "seems to be non-human intelligence. They"}, {"end": "00:37:46", "start": "00:37:41", "text": "eventually put me into a sort of trance"}, {"end": "00:37:48", "start": "00:37:44", "text": "where my eyes were open. Everything was"}, {"end": "00:37:50", "start": "00:37:46", "text": "black so I couldn't see. It went black."}, {"end": "00:37:51", "start": "00:37:48", "text": "Yeah. And they told me that would"}, {"end": "00:37:53", "start": "00:37:50", "text": "happen. This is what will happen. We"}, {"end": "00:37:54", "start": "00:37:51", "text": "need to put three things in your brain."}, {"end": "00:37:57", "start": "00:37:53", "text": "You won't have access to the"}, {"end": "00:37:59", "start": "00:37:54", "text": "information. You'll still have your eyes"}, {"end": "00:38:01", "start": "00:37:57", "text": "open, but everything will go black from"}, {"end": "00:38:03", "start": "00:37:59", "text": "top to bottom. And then you'll start to"}, {"end": "00:38:04", "start": "00:38:01", "text": "see and feel information. That is"}, {"end": "00:38:07", "start": "00:38:03", "text": "exactly what happened."}, {"end": "00:38:10", "start": "00:38:04", "text": "I did see the information. It did go in"}, {"end": "00:38:14", "start": "00:38:07", "text": "my brain like a freaking fire hose. And"}, {"end": "00:38:16", "start": "00:38:10", "text": "when it was over, I felt like my head"}, {"end": "00:38:19", "start": "00:38:14", "text": "was very heavy. I could barely even lift"}, {"end": "00:38:22", "start": "00:38:16", "text": "it. Um, and I don't have conscious"}, {"end": "00:38:27", "start": "00:38:19", "text": "access to that information. Also, the"}, {"end": "00:38:29", "start": "00:38:22", "text": "fact that the mother ship would destroy"}, {"end": "00:38:32", "start": "00:38:27", "text": "the UFOs"}, {"end": "00:38:34", "start": "00:38:29", "text": "so that we couldn't salvage them, I"}, {"end": "00:38:35", "start": "00:38:32", "text": "thought was very interesting as well."}, {"end": "00:38:38", "start": "00:38:34", "text": "And the fact that he says they can"}, {"end": "00:38:40", "start": "00:38:35", "text": "withstand tremendous amount of heat."}, {"end": "00:38:42", "start": "00:38:38", "text": "Now, that's an interesting detail. He"}, {"end": "00:38:43", "start": "00:38:40", "text": "didn't say these were bulletproof or"}, {"end": "00:38:46", "start": "00:38:42", "text": "that they were harder than steel. He"}, {"end": "00:38:49", "start": "00:38:43", "text": "said withstanding heat specifically. And"}, {"end": "00:38:51", "start": "00:38:46", "text": "that is something that was brought up by"}, {"end": "00:38:53", "start": "00:38:49", "text": "the 4chan whistleblower in saying that"}, {"end": "00:38:55", "start": "00:38:51", "text": "when they tried to repurpose the"}, {"end": "00:38:58", "start": "00:38:53", "text": "vehicles that they found, they had a"}, {"end": "00:39:00", "start": "00:38:55", "text": "really hard time because they couldn't"}, {"end": "00:39:03", "start": "00:38:58", "text": "heat up the metal. It was very, very"}, {"end": "00:39:04", "start": "00:39:00", "text": "difficult. So, just another point of"}, {"end": "00:39:06", "start": "00:39:03", "text": "connection there. Which one of us would"}, {"end": "00:39:08", "start": "00:39:04", "text": "be most likely to be contacted by these"}, {"end": "00:39:11", "start": "00:39:06", "text": "people? And this would be up to them,"}, {"end": "00:39:12", "start": "00:39:08", "text": "not us. I was told that I just happened"}, {"end": "00:39:14", "start": "00:39:11", "text": "to be in the wrong place at the right"}, {"end": "00:39:16", "start": "00:39:12", "text": "time or something like that. They have"}, {"end": "00:39:19", "start": "00:39:14", "text": "no plans for patterns for contacting"}, {"end": "00:39:20", "start": "00:39:16", "text": "people. It is by pure chance. So the"}, {"end": "00:39:22", "start": "00:39:19", "text": "government cannot determine any patterns"}, {"end": "00:39:25", "start": "00:39:20", "text": "about them. There will be a lot more"}, {"end": "00:39:27", "start": "00:39:22", "text": "contacts. He told me that."}, {"end": "00:39:30", "start": "00:39:25", "text": "Do they have bases on Earth for their"}, {"end": "00:39:32", "start": "00:39:27", "text": "saucers? Yes, there are definitely bases"}, {"end": "00:39:34", "start": "00:39:30", "text": "in the United States. There is a base"}, {"end": "00:39:36", "start": "00:39:32", "text": "located beneath the ocean off the coast"}, {"end": "00:39:38", "start": "00:39:34", "text": "of Florida, which is a big thing. This"}, {"end": "00:39:40", "start": "00:39:36", "text": "is a big city under the ocean. He said"}, {"end": "00:39:42", "start": "00:39:38", "text": "this would be used for our benefit and"}, {"end": "00:39:44", "start": "00:39:40", "text": "theirs."}, {"end": "00:39:46", "start": "00:39:42", "text": "There is a base in the polar region. He"}, {"end": "00:39:48", "start": "00:39:44", "text": "did not say whether it was north or"}, {"end": "00:39:51", "start": "00:39:46", "text": "south pole. There's another big base"}, {"end": "00:39:54", "start": "00:39:48", "text": "right off the coast of Argentina. These"}, {"end": "00:39:58", "start": "00:39:51", "text": "bases are underground or underwater."}, {"end": "00:40:01", "start": "00:39:54", "text": "That is so interesting for many reasons."}, {"end": "00:40:02", "start": "00:39:58", "text": "Again, the 4chan whistleblower comes to"}, {"end": "00:40:04", "start": "00:40:01", "text": "mind because what happened to him was"}, {"end": "00:40:06", "start": "00:40:02", "text": "also on the coast on the east coast"}, {"end": "00:40:09", "start": "00:40:04", "text": "where the Atlantic is near, you know,"}, {"end": "00:40:12", "start": "00:40:06", "text": "the Bermuda Triangle in and around that"}, {"end": "00:40:16", "start": "00:40:09", "text": "area which is close to Florida."}, {"end": "00:40:19", "start": "00:40:12", "text": "But also there is a case which we'll be"}, {"end": "00:40:20", "start": "00:40:16", "text": "talking about shortly. Another case that"}, {"end": "00:40:25", "start": "00:40:19", "text": "features not only the same type of"}, {"end": "00:40:28", "start": "00:40:20", "text": "creatures with the same type of uniforms"}, {"end": "00:40:31", "start": "00:40:25", "text": "and everything else, but also it happens"}, {"end": "00:40:33", "start": "00:40:28", "text": "in Miami and he's taken to an underwater"}, {"end": "00:40:35", "start": "00:40:31", "text": "UFO base."}, {"end": "00:40:37", "start": "00:40:33", "text": "I'm not kidding. This is crazy. This is"}, {"end": "00:40:39", "start": "00:40:35", "text": "like an insane connection here. My"}, {"end": "00:40:41", "start": "00:40:37", "text": "mind's being blown right now. Did they"}, {"end": "00:40:44", "start": "00:40:39", "text": "describe how these bases were operated?"}, {"end": "00:40:46", "start": "00:40:41", "text": "They did not. He just told me what I"}, {"end": "00:40:49", "start": "00:40:44", "text": "repeated. What do you know about mother"}, {"end": "00:40:51", "start": "00:40:46", "text": "ships? The mother ships are huge affairs"}, {"end": "00:40:53", "start": "00:40:49", "text": "which are what we would call"}, {"end": "00:40:55", "start": "00:40:51", "text": "interplanetary stations."}, {"end": "00:40:56", "start": "00:40:53", "text": "All of their headquarters types of"}, {"end": "00:40:59", "start": "00:40:55", "text": "operations are carried out in these big"}, {"end": "00:41:01", "start": "00:40:56", "text": "crafts. He showed me one on the screen."}, {"end": "00:41:03", "start": "00:40:59", "text": "They are the main observation stations."}, {"end": "00:41:06", "start": "00:41:01", "text": "Big peeping things so high out in space"}, {"end": "00:41:08", "start": "00:41:03", "text": "that we cannot acknowledge them."}, {"end": "00:41:10", "start": "00:41:06", "text": "The saucers arrive there carried by the"}, {"end": "00:41:13", "start": "00:41:08", "text": "mother ships. The mother ships have"}, {"end": "00:41:16", "start": "00:41:10", "text": "equipment to look in on anything on"}, {"end": "00:41:17", "start": "00:41:13", "text": "Earth into any factory, home, or house."}, {"end": "00:41:21", "start": "00:41:16", "text": "They also monitor our Earth"}, {"end": "00:41:23", "start": "00:41:17", "text": "communication systems. That is so cool."}, {"end": "00:41:25", "start": "00:41:21", "text": "They can look into people's houses. That"}, {"end": "00:41:27", "start": "00:41:23", "text": "would make sense."}, {"end": "00:41:30", "start": "00:41:25", "text": "But what's even more interesting here is"}, {"end": "00:41:33", "start": "00:41:27", "text": "that the saucers are in this giant"}, {"end": "00:41:37", "start": "00:41:30", "text": "mother ship."}, {"end": "00:41:39", "start": "00:41:33", "text": "This reminds me of Travis Walton."}, {"end": "00:41:42", "start": "00:41:37", "text": "Travis's case. He was taken into a"}, {"end": "00:41:46", "start": "00:41:39", "text": "saucer-like craft."}, {"end": "00:41:47", "start": "00:41:42", "text": "Met these beings, short, large heads."}, {"end": "00:41:49", "start": "00:41:46", "text": "They didn't have black eyes. They had"}, {"end": "00:41:52", "start": "00:41:47", "text": "kind of like normal eyes, big brown"}, {"end": "00:41:55", "start": "00:41:49", "text": "eyes, big round brown eyes, uh orange"}, {"end": "00:41:59", "start": "00:41:52", "text": "jumpsuits. And uh he was scared off and"}, {"end": "00:42:02", "start": "00:41:55", "text": "then ran into like taller plleadian"}, {"end": "00:42:05", "start": "00:41:59", "text": "Nordic looking folks with fishbowls on"}, {"end": "00:42:07", "start": "00:42:02", "text": "their heads that took him into a giant"}, {"end": "00:42:10", "start": "00:42:05", "text": "hanger"}, {"end": "00:42:13", "start": "00:42:07", "text": "which he then was shown these other tic"}, {"end": "00:42:15", "start": "00:42:10", "text": "tac and pill-shaped crafts"}, {"end": "00:42:18", "start": "00:42:13", "text": "possibly some type of mother ship as"}, {"end": "00:42:20", "start": "00:42:15", "text": "well. Just a interesting connection"}, {"end": "00:42:22", "start": "00:42:18", "text": "there. What is the speed of a flying"}, {"end": "00:42:25", "start": "00:42:20", "text": "saucer?"}, {"end": "00:42:27", "start": "00:42:22", "text": "I was told it was in excess of 150,000 m"}, {"end": "00:42:30", "start": "00:42:25", "text": "an hour."}, {"end": "00:42:33", "start": "00:42:27", "text": "What metal did they use in them? I was"}, {"end": "00:42:36", "start": "00:42:30", "text": "told it was 100% pure magnesium. The"}, {"end": "00:42:38", "start": "00:42:33", "text": "metal was very brightly polished and the"}, {"end": "00:42:40", "start": "00:42:36", "text": "surface was very smooth. He let me run"}, {"end": "00:42:43", "start": "00:42:38", "text": "my hand over it and there was not a"}, {"end": "00:42:45", "start": "00:42:40", "text": "rough spot anywhere."}, {"end": "00:42:47", "start": "00:42:43", "text": "Did you see any beds, water"}, {"end": "00:42:50", "start": "00:42:45", "text": "compartments, or toilet areas on the"}, {"end": "00:42:52", "start": "00:42:47", "text": "craft? I didn't see any, although there"}, {"end": "00:42:55", "start": "00:42:50", "text": "may have been some. What are their"}, {"end": "00:42:56", "start": "00:42:52", "text": "thoughts about people on Earth? They"}, {"end": "00:42:58", "start": "00:42:55", "text": "think we're doing things in the wrong."}, {"end": "00:43:00", "start": "00:42:56", "text": "If that is true, why don't they teach us"}, {"end": "00:43:02", "start": "00:42:58", "text": "the correct way?"}, {"end": "00:43:06", "start": "00:43:00", "text": "They did not provide any information as"}, {"end": "00:43:07", "start": "00:43:02", "text": "to why they left us to our own ways."}, {"end": "00:43:09", "start": "00:43:06", "text": "Would you say they might have kidnapped"}, {"end": "00:43:12", "start": "00:43:07", "text": "people who might have stumbled onto"}, {"end": "00:43:15", "start": "00:43:09", "text": "their crafts? I was informed they had"}, {"end": "00:43:17", "start": "00:43:12", "text": "picked up cows, dead bodies of animals,"}, {"end": "00:43:20", "start": "00:43:15", "text": "and some people. These are used for"}, {"end": "00:43:22", "start": "00:43:17", "text": "experiments. There is a program of"}, {"end": "00:43:24", "start": "00:43:20", "text": "breeding analysis but it was not"}, {"end": "00:43:26", "start": "00:43:22", "text": "discussed to any extent. I think some"}, {"end": "00:43:29", "start": "00:43:24", "text": "people have been picked up and changed"}, {"end": "00:43:31", "start": "00:43:26", "text": "so they may have agents in our world."}, {"end": "00:43:33", "start": "00:43:29", "text": "They are very smart about the brain and"}, {"end": "00:43:35", "start": "00:43:31", "text": "how to change it."}, {"end": "00:43:37", "start": "00:43:33", "text": "That is so crazy. Now we're talking"}, {"end": "00:43:40", "start": "00:43:35", "text": "about hybridization. We're talking about"}, {"end": "00:43:44", "start": "00:43:37", "text": "cattle mutilations, but also kidnapping"}, {"end": "00:43:46", "start": "00:43:40", "text": "of corpses, which is quite interesting"}, {"end": "00:43:51", "start": "00:43:44", "text": "because I have heard of cases of UFOs"}, {"end": "00:43:54", "start": "00:43:46", "text": "being seen scanning certain graveyards."}, {"end": "00:43:57", "start": "00:43:51", "text": "Wow. Did you see any weapons on them or"}, {"end": "00:43:59", "start": "00:43:54", "text": "the ship? They carry their ray weapons"}, {"end": "00:44:01", "start": "00:43:57", "text": "in the holsters. These do not kill, but"}, {"end": "00:44:03", "start": "00:43:59", "text": "paralyze. There were no weapons on the"}, {"end": "00:44:05", "start": "00:44:01", "text": "ship, although I might not have known"}, {"end": "00:44:07", "start": "00:44:03", "text": "what they looked like. This was a very"}, {"end": "00:44:12", "start": "00:44:05", "text": "strange place unlike anything I've ever"}, {"end": "00:44:14", "start": "00:44:07", "text": "seen. It's very cold inside the ship."}, {"end": "00:44:16", "start": "00:44:12", "text": "What about their color spectrum? You"}, {"end": "00:44:18", "start": "00:44:14", "text": "mean the kind of colors? It's the same"}, {"end": "00:44:20", "start": "00:44:16", "text": "as ours. You saw something in the sky"}, {"end": "00:44:22", "start": "00:44:18", "text": "blinking red, you would think it was an"}, {"end": "00:44:24", "start": "00:44:20", "text": "airplane."}, {"end": "00:44:26", "start": "00:44:22", "text": "Did they mention anything about water?"}, {"end": "00:44:29", "start": "00:44:24", "text": "They asked about the Lincoln City Water"}, {"end": "00:44:31", "start": "00:44:26", "text": "Reservoir, which was just down the hill"}, {"end": "00:44:33", "start": "00:44:29", "text": "in some way, which I do not understand."}, {"end": "00:44:35", "start": "00:44:31", "text": "They draw a type of power source from"}, {"end": "00:44:37", "start": "00:44:33", "text": "water. This is why we see them over"}, {"end": "00:44:40", "start": "00:44:35", "text": "rivers, lakes, and large bodies of"}, {"end": "00:44:44", "start": "00:44:37", "text": "water. That's interesting."}, {"end": "00:44:47", "start": "00:44:40", "text": "Many cases of crafts not only emerging"}, {"end": "00:44:49", "start": "00:44:44", "text": "from water, but what seems to be like"}, {"end": "00:44:51", "start": "00:44:47", "text": "even even rubber tubes going into water,"}, {"end": "00:44:53", "start": "00:44:49", "text": "like pumping them out and like very"}, {"end": "00:44:55", "start": "00:44:51", "text": "bizarre interactions with water, almost"}, {"end": "00:44:57", "start": "00:44:53", "text": "as almost as if we're some type of gas"}, {"end": "00:44:58", "start": "00:44:55", "text": "station here. Now, you've been very"}, {"end": "00:45:00", "start": "00:44:57", "text": "cooperative. Let's go back to the"}, {"end": "00:45:02", "start": "00:44:58", "text": "saucer. Did they tell you anything to"}, {"end": "00:45:03", "start": "00:45:00", "text": "say or do before you left? Were you"}, {"end": "00:45:05", "start": "00:45:02", "text": "programmed to say something in any"}, {"end": "00:45:07", "start": "00:45:03", "text": "manner?"}, {"end": "00:45:10", "start": "00:45:05", "text": "Yes. He's looking directly into my eyes"}, {"end": "00:45:12", "start": "00:45:07", "text": "and saying, \"I wish you would not tell"}, {"end": "00:45:14", "start": "00:45:10", "text": "that you have been aboard the ship. You"}, {"end": "00:45:16", "start": "00:45:12", "text": "are to tell that the craft landed below"}, {"end": "00:45:18", "start": "00:45:14", "text": "in the intersection of the highways,"}, {"end": "00:45:21", "start": "00:45:16", "text": "that you approached our machine and then"}, {"end": "00:45:23", "start": "00:45:18", "text": "it shot up into the air and disappeared."}, {"end": "00:45:25", "start": "00:45:21", "text": "You will tell this and not speak wisely"}, {"end": "00:45:28", "start": "00:45:23", "text": "about what has happened here tonight."}, {"end": "00:45:30", "start": "00:45:25", "text": "You must speak unwisely because we will"}, {"end": "00:45:32", "start": "00:45:28", "text": "return again to see you two times more."}, {"end": "00:45:34", "start": "00:45:30", "text": "There will be one of your people who"}, {"end": "00:45:37", "start": "00:45:32", "text": "will approach you. You will know them"}, {"end": "00:45:38", "start": "00:45:34", "text": "when they come. He's giving me a very"}, {"end": "00:45:41", "start": "00:45:37", "text": "strange look. His hand is on my"}, {"end": "00:45:42", "start": "00:45:38", "text": "shoulder. He's saying a word like I have"}, {"end": "00:45:45", "start": "00:45:41", "text": "never heard before in the world in the"}, {"end": "00:45:48", "start": "00:45:42", "text": "whole world. I can't even pronounce the"}, {"end": "00:45:50", "start": "00:45:45", "text": "thing. He must be saying goodbye. He's"}, {"end": "00:45:52", "start": "00:45:48", "text": "walking me back to the hatch. The two"}, {"end": "00:45:55", "start": "00:45:50", "text": "men who stayed outside are staring up at"}, {"end": "00:45:56", "start": "00:45:52", "text": "me when I step out. They're climbing"}, {"end": "00:45:59", "start": "00:45:55", "text": "back into the ship and making motions"}, {"end": "00:46:01", "start": "00:45:56", "text": "for me to return to the cruiser. I'm"}, {"end": "00:46:03", "start": "00:45:59", "text": "getting into the cruiser. The legs on"}, {"end": "00:46:05", "start": "00:46:01", "text": "the saucer are retracting. A reddish"}, {"end": "00:46:08", "start": "00:46:03", "text": "orange light is coming out of the bottom"}, {"end": "00:46:11", "start": "00:46:05", "text": "of the ship. There is a humming noise as"}, {"end": "00:46:13", "start": "00:46:08", "text": "it winds up and shoots straight into the"}, {"end": "00:46:15", "start": "00:46:11", "text": "sky."}, {"end": "00:46:19", "start": "00:46:13", "text": "It was like a shooting star. Disappeared"}, {"end": "00:46:22", "start": "00:46:15", "text": "that fast. It was exactly 102 ft in"}, {"end": "00:46:26", "start": "00:46:19", "text": "diameter. I was told standing on the"}, {"end": "00:46:29", "start": "00:46:22", "text": "tripod and not measuring the antennas."}, {"end": "00:46:31", "start": "00:46:26", "text": "It would be about 35 ft high. With the"}, {"end": "00:46:34", "start": "00:46:29", "text": "tripods retracted, the ship would be"}, {"end": "00:46:35", "start": "00:46:31", "text": "about 20 ft in height. Did they"}, {"end": "00:46:38", "start": "00:46:34", "text": "communicate by voice or through the"}, {"end": "00:46:40", "start": "00:46:35", "text": "mind? It seemed to be both methods. It"}, {"end": "00:46:42", "start": "00:46:38", "text": "appeared they did all of their own"}, {"end": "00:46:45", "start": "00:46:40", "text": "speaking through the antenna devices"}, {"end": "00:46:47", "start": "00:46:42", "text": "over the helmets on their ears."}, {"end": "00:46:50", "start": "00:46:45", "text": "The one who talked with me spoke with a"}, {"end": "00:46:52", "start": "00:46:47", "text": "voice with a sort of broken English. It"}, {"end": "00:46:54", "start": "00:46:50", "text": "was very strange sounding and appeared"}, {"end": "00:46:57", "start": "00:46:52", "text": "to come from deep inside him rather than"}, {"end": "00:46:59", "start": "00:46:54", "text": "from his mouth. I can't describe it. He"}, {"end": "00:47:01", "start": "00:46:57", "text": "said they studied our languages on Earth"}, {"end": "00:47:03", "start": "00:46:59", "text": "through some sort of machine. My mind"}, {"end": "00:47:05", "start": "00:47:01", "text": "tells me that they have computers to"}, {"end": "00:47:08", "start": "00:47:03", "text": "speak any language somehow wherever they"}, {"end": "00:47:10", "start": "00:47:05", "text": "may land."}, {"end": "00:47:12", "start": "00:47:08", "text": "That's so interesting. This also comes"}, {"end": "00:47:15", "start": "00:47:10", "text": "up a little bit later. We'll be looking"}, {"end": "00:47:18", "start": "00:47:12", "text": "into this because the idea of"}, {"end": "00:47:19", "start": "00:47:15", "text": "basically techass assisted telepathy is"}, {"end": "00:47:22", "start": "00:47:18", "text": "interesting to me because it sort of"}, {"end": "00:47:23", "start": "00:47:19", "text": "bridges the gap between this impossible"}, {"end": "00:47:27", "start": "00:47:22", "text": "unattainable"}, {"end": "00:47:31", "start": "00:47:23", "text": "you know nonhuman intelligence and the"}, {"end": "00:47:33", "start": "00:47:27", "text": "human mind. If tech is involved somehow"}, {"end": "00:47:37", "start": "00:47:31", "text": "then, you know, maybe we're not that far"}, {"end": "00:47:39", "start": "00:47:33", "text": "away technologically speaking at least."}, {"end": "00:47:41", "start": "00:47:37", "text": "Do they wear any sort of air tanks or"}, {"end": "00:47:44", "start": "00:47:39", "text": "breathing devices? No. Oh, their faces"}, {"end": "00:47:46", "start": "00:47:41", "text": "were open. What about outside the ship?"}, {"end": "00:47:48", "start": "00:47:44", "text": "They wore no device that looked like it"}, {"end": "00:47:49", "start": "00:47:46", "text": "might be used for breathing. Fact is, I"}, {"end": "00:47:52", "start": "00:47:48", "text": "never really noticed whether they were"}, {"end": "00:47:56", "start": "00:47:49", "text": "breathing or not. Hm, that puzzles me."}, {"end": "00:47:58", "start": "00:47:52", "text": "Huh. I can't forget those eyes. He is"}, {"end": "00:47:59", "start": "00:47:56", "text": "looking at me. He is not blinking or"}, {"end": "00:48:03", "start": "00:47:58", "text": "anything. He's looking directly at me"}, {"end": "00:48:03", "start": "00:47:59", "text": "with those cat's eyes."}, {"end": "00:48:11", "start": "00:48:04", "text": "The cat's eyes is also very interesting."}, {"end": "00:48:15", "start": "00:48:07", "text": "Immediately I'm reminded of Lerta,"}, {"end": "00:48:18", "start": "00:48:11", "text": "the reptilian or reptilelike species"}, {"end": "00:48:21", "start": "00:48:15", "text": "that also have these sort of cat's eyes,"}, {"end": "00:48:23", "start": "00:48:18", "text": "these vertical slits. And as you'll see"}, {"end": "00:48:26", "start": "00:48:21", "text": "a little bit later, the emblem which is"}, {"end": "00:48:29", "start": "00:48:23", "text": "described by Lerta is actually one and"}, {"end": "00:48:31", "start": "00:48:26", "text": "the same that is described here by Mr."}, {"end": "00:48:33", "start": "00:48:29", "text": "Shurmer."}, {"end": "00:48:35", "start": "00:48:31", "text": "And we'll get into that and there's"}, {"end": "00:48:37", "start": "00:48:33", "text": "other cases as well. Very, very"}, {"end": "00:48:38", "start": "00:48:35", "text": "interesting find. This has been a very"}, {"end": "00:48:40", "start": "00:48:37", "text": "long session and you've been very"}, {"end": "00:48:41", "start": "00:48:38", "text": "cooperative. Now you will remember"}, {"end": "00:48:43", "start": "00:48:40", "text": "everything that occurred here this"}, {"end": "00:48:44", "start": "00:48:41", "text": "afternoon. Your mind will open up to"}, {"end": "00:48:46", "start": "00:48:43", "text": "recall other details that you may have"}, {"end": "00:48:48", "start": "00:48:44", "text": "forgotten."}, {"end": "00:48:50", "start": "00:48:46", "text": "As his memory of the missing minutes"}, {"end": "00:48:52", "start": "00:48:48", "text": "aboard the flying saucer was restored,"}, {"end": "00:48:55", "start": "00:48:50", "text": "Herb Shurmer reported the flying saucer"}, {"end": "00:48:57", "start": "00:48:52", "text": "was equipped with a robot controlled"}, {"end": "00:49:00", "start": "00:48:55", "text": "baby moon."}, {"end": "00:49:03", "start": "00:48:57", "text": "He used baby moon because it looked like"}, {"end": "00:49:06", "start": "00:49:00", "text": "a moon-shaped hubcap. The device was a"}, {"end": "00:49:09", "start": "00:49:03", "text": "saucer-shaped object approximately 6 ft"}, {"end": "00:49:12", "start": "00:49:06", "text": "in diameter. It was constructed of the"}, {"end": "00:49:14", "start": "00:49:09", "text": "same silverish metal as the saucer. It"}, {"end": "00:49:16", "start": "00:49:12", "text": "was just a plain discshaped object with"}, {"end": "00:49:18", "start": "00:49:14", "text": "no openings or antenna that he could"}, {"end": "00:49:20", "start": "00:49:16", "text": "see. Shurmer recalled. They told me it"}, {"end": "00:49:22", "start": "00:49:18", "text": "was used for reconnaissance and"}, {"end": "00:49:24", "start": "00:49:20", "text": "surveillance of an area. As I understood"}, {"end": "00:49:26", "start": "00:49:22", "text": "them, the baby moons shot out of the"}, {"end": "00:49:28", "start": "00:49:24", "text": "saucer and checks out the area before"}, {"end": "00:49:31", "start": "00:49:26", "text": "they land."}, {"end": "00:49:34", "start": "00:49:28", "text": "Now, this is interesting. Could this"}, {"end": "00:49:36", "start": "00:49:31", "text": "also be the sort of drone like things"}, {"end": "00:49:38", "start": "00:49:34", "text": "that people are observing or these"}, {"end": "00:49:41", "start": "00:49:36", "text": "spheres that are filmed all around the"}, {"end": "00:49:43", "start": "00:49:38", "text": "world seemingly to have some type of"}, {"end": "00:49:46", "start": "00:49:41", "text": "reconnaissance, you know, purpose? I"}, {"end": "00:49:47", "start": "00:49:43", "text": "don't know. Very interesting though. I"}, {"end": "00:49:50", "start": "00:49:46", "text": "keep saying it's interesting, but it is"}, {"end": "00:49:51", "start": "00:49:47", "text": "interesting. I'm interested. The one who"}, {"end": "00:49:54", "start": "00:49:50", "text": "did most of the talking, I think of him"}, {"end": "00:49:55", "start": "00:49:51", "text": "as the captain, said the baby moon was"}, {"end": "00:49:57", "start": "00:49:54", "text": "equipped with highly advanced"}, {"end": "00:50:00", "start": "00:49:55", "text": "instruments and a thing he called a"}, {"end": "00:50:02", "start": "00:49:57", "text": "scanning device. he continued. It"}, {"end": "00:50:04", "start": "00:50:00", "text": "transmits pictures and sound back to the"}, {"end": "00:50:09", "start": "00:50:02", "text": "saucer. They can flip a switch and lock"}, {"end": "00:50:10", "start": "00:50:04", "text": "their vision screen in on the baby moon."}, {"end": "00:50:12", "start": "00:50:09", "text": "He said the moon had been developed as a"}, {"end": "00:50:14", "start": "00:50:10", "text": "robot control device because we are a"}, {"end": "00:50:16", "start": "00:50:12", "text": "very hostile people and they needed"}, {"end": "00:50:18", "start": "00:50:14", "text": "something to scan an area before landing"}, {"end": "00:50:20", "start": "00:50:16", "text": "their bigger saucer. Shurmer explained"}, {"end": "00:50:23", "start": "00:50:18", "text": "if the baby moon probe shows activity in"}, {"end": "00:50:25", "start": "00:50:20", "text": "an area, they pull it back and withdraw."}, {"end": "00:50:27", "start": "00:50:23", "text": "He said that only in certain cases did"}, {"end": "00:50:29", "start": "00:50:25", "text": "they ever land when there was someone"}, {"end": "00:50:31", "start": "00:50:27", "text": "around the area. Shurmer was also"}, {"end": "00:50:32", "start": "00:50:29", "text": "informed that the baby moon contained a"}, {"end": "00:50:34", "start": "00:50:31", "text": "powerful destruction unit inside the"}, {"end": "00:50:36", "start": "00:50:32", "text": "gleaming shell. He said they could press"}, {"end": "00:50:39", "start": "00:50:34", "text": "a button and the moon would burn itself"}, {"end": "00:50:40", "start": "00:50:36", "text": "to pieces and blow up. Shurmer added,"}, {"end": "00:50:43", "start": "00:50:39", "text": "\"The baby moon would explain one of the"}, {"end": "00:50:45", "start": "00:50:40", "text": "largest mysteries in UFO sightings."}, {"end": "00:50:47", "start": "00:50:43", "text": "Small circular discs"}, {"end": "00:50:50", "start": "00:50:45", "text": "have been seen hovering over fields and"}, {"end": "00:50:52", "start": "00:50:47", "text": "swamps, speeding down highways, swooping"}, {"end": "00:50:53", "start": "00:50:50", "text": "down on automobiles. If Shurmer is"}, {"end": "00:50:56", "start": "00:50:52", "text": "correct, these objects are actually"}, {"end": "00:50:58", "start": "00:50:53", "text": "radiocontrolled spy in the sky devices."}, {"end": "00:51:00", "start": "00:50:56", "text": "When he explained about the baby moon,"}, {"end": "00:51:02", "start": "00:50:58", "text": "he led me to the screen above the"}, {"end": "00:51:04", "start": "00:51:00", "text": "console in the saucer. Shurmer"}, {"end": "00:51:06", "start": "00:51:02", "text": "explained. He flipped the switch and the"}, {"end": "00:51:08", "start": "00:51:04", "text": "screen came on instantly. I saw the"}, {"end": "00:51:10", "start": "00:51:06", "text": "outside of the craft on the screen. It"}, {"end": "00:51:11", "start": "00:51:08", "text": "wasn't like television. It was the"}, {"end": "00:51:13", "start": "00:51:10", "text": "sharpest, clearest picture I'd ever"}, {"end": "00:51:16", "start": "00:51:11", "text": "seen. It was like those 3D movies where"}, {"end": "00:51:17", "start": "00:51:13", "text": "he wore glasses. Was there a color"}, {"end": "00:51:19", "start": "00:51:16", "text": "picture? Shurmer was thoughtful for a"}, {"end": "00:51:22", "start": "00:51:17", "text": "moment. I believe so. I can't be"}, {"end": "00:51:24", "start": "00:51:19", "text": "certain. It was pretty dark outside."}, {"end": "00:51:27", "start": "00:51:22", "text": "picture I remember was of two of the"}, {"end": "00:51:29", "start": "00:51:24", "text": "crew walking back and forth like guards."}, {"end": "00:51:31", "start": "00:51:27", "text": "They walked very stiff and straight like"}, {"end": "00:51:33", "start": "00:51:29", "text": "soldiers. Their heads moved back and"}, {"end": "00:51:36", "start": "00:51:31", "text": "forth like they were looking for"}, {"end": "00:51:39", "start": "00:51:33", "text": "someone. All I saw was their silver"}, {"end": "00:51:40", "start": "00:51:36", "text": "suits against the black background."}, {"end": "00:51:42", "start": "00:51:39", "text": "Shurmer stated the saucer captain"}, {"end": "00:51:44", "start": "00:51:40", "text": "flipped another device on the elaborate"}, {"end": "00:51:46", "start": "00:51:42", "text": "console below the screen. Three flying"}, {"end": "00:51:48", "start": "00:51:44", "text": "saucers came on the screen flying in"}, {"end": "00:51:51", "start": "00:51:46", "text": "formation. He said they were very high"}, {"end": "00:51:53", "start": "00:51:48", "text": "above us. I said he must have awfully"}, {"end": "00:51:55", "start": "00:51:51", "text": "good cameras and he replied that it was"}, {"end": "00:51:58", "start": "00:51:53", "text": "all done with light beams, whatever that"}, {"end": "00:52:00", "start": "00:51:55", "text": "means. The saucer captain also informed"}, {"end": "00:52:02", "start": "00:51:58", "text": "Shurmer that some saucers were equipped"}, {"end": "00:52:04", "start": "00:52:00", "text": "with peeping devices. These devices also"}, {"end": "00:52:06", "start": "00:52:02", "text": "operated on light beams, were reported"}, {"end": "00:52:08", "start": "00:52:04", "text": "capable of scanning any home or building"}, {"end": "00:52:10", "start": "00:52:06", "text": "in the world. He indicated the ships"}, {"end": "00:52:12", "start": "00:52:08", "text": "with these devices stayed high above the"}, {"end": "00:52:14", "start": "00:52:10", "text": "Earth and locked their beams in on where"}, {"end": "00:52:16", "start": "00:52:12", "text": "they wanted to be. Shurmer said, \"Could"}, {"end": "00:52:18", "start": "00:52:14", "text": "these devices be the products of an"}, {"end": "00:52:21", "start": "00:52:16", "text": "advanced civilization? Our scientists"}, {"end": "00:52:23", "start": "00:52:18", "text": "are now developing holography"}, {"end": "00:52:24", "start": "00:52:21", "text": "form of image projection using light"}, {"end": "00:52:26", "start": "00:52:23", "text": "beams. Holography produces"}, {"end": "00:52:28", "start": "00:52:24", "text": "three-dimensional lifelike images that"}, {"end": "00:52:29", "start": "00:52:26", "text": "are virtually free of distortion."}, {"end": "00:52:31", "start": "00:52:28", "text": "Superpowered electronic listening"}, {"end": "00:52:34", "start": "00:52:29", "text": "devices that are used in Cold War to spy"}, {"end": "00:52:35", "start": "00:52:31", "text": "on other nations. It is entirely within"}, {"end": "00:52:37", "start": "00:52:34", "text": "the realm of reason that an advanced"}, {"end": "00:52:41", "start": "00:52:35", "text": "technology could produce devices"}, {"end": "00:52:44", "start": "00:52:37", "text": "described by Herbert Shurmer."}, {"end": "00:52:47", "start": "00:52:41", "text": "And that is the end of this little"}, {"end": "00:52:50", "start": "00:52:44", "text": "regression session. Very fascinating"}, {"end": "00:52:52", "start": "00:52:47", "text": "indeed. I'm so glad that we got this."}, {"end": "00:52:54", "start": "00:52:50", "text": "Thank you to our researchers for pulling"}, {"end": "00:52:56", "start": "00:52:52", "text": "that up for me because without which we"}, {"end": "00:52:58", "start": "00:52:54", "text": "would have missed out on some key"}, {"end": "00:53:01", "start": "00:52:56", "text": "details. Now, one thing I did want to"}, {"end": "00:53:03", "start": "00:52:58", "text": "share was this video here. This was"}, {"end": "00:53:06", "start": "00:53:01", "text": "shared by Tom Dong. Yes, the singer for"}, {"end": "00:53:08", "start": "00:53:03", "text": "the famous band Blink 182 and front"}, {"end": "00:53:10", "start": "00:53:06", "text": "runner of To the Stars Academy and also"}, {"end": "00:53:13", "start": "00:53:08", "text": "missing an in action for the last few"}, {"end": "00:53:15", "start": "00:53:10", "text": "years. Tom, if you're listening to this,"}, {"end": "00:53:18", "start": "00:53:13", "text": "I'd love to have you in the skiff. But"}, {"end": "00:53:19", "start": "00:53:15", "text": "this video features what seems to be"}, {"end": "00:53:24", "start": "00:53:18", "text": "some wobbly"}, {"end": "00:53:26", "start": "00:53:19", "text": "smaller disc-like object also making a"}, {"end": "00:53:30", "start": "00:53:24", "text": "sound and what seems to be scanning this"}, {"end": "00:53:30", "start": "00:53:26", "text": "man's pickup truck."}, {"end": "00:54:10", "start": "00:54:06", "text": "This to me"}, {"end": "00:54:13", "start": "00:54:08", "text": "looks exactly like what Herb was"}, {"end": "00:54:16", "start": "00:54:10", "text": "describing. There are some interesting"}, {"end": "00:54:18", "start": "00:54:13", "text": "cases that I would love to get into post"}, {"end": "00:54:21", "start": "00:54:16", "text": "Shurmer, but prior to this, there is"}, {"end": "00:54:23", "start": "00:54:18", "text": "some more information about Shurmer that"}, {"end": "00:54:26", "start": "00:54:21", "text": "I think is really, really pertinent. By"}, {"end": "00:54:29", "start": "00:54:23", "text": "the way, Shurmer was also subjected to a"}, {"end": "00:54:32", "start": "00:54:26", "text": "stress detector or lie detector test."}, {"end": "00:54:35", "start": "00:54:29", "text": "and passed."}, {"end": "00:54:37", "start": "00:54:32", "text": "It was his friend Chief Washen who went"}, {"end": "00:54:39", "start": "00:54:35", "text": "to the site as well and found a small"}, {"end": "00:54:42", "start": "00:54:37", "text": "piece of metal, had it tested, came back"}, {"end": "00:54:44", "start": "00:54:39", "text": "as nothing special, but uh he emphasized"}, {"end": "00:54:47", "start": "00:54:42", "text": "that he doesn't report anything he"}, {"end": "00:54:50", "start": "00:54:44", "text": "doesn't see. Speaking about Shurmer,"}, {"end": "00:54:54", "start": "00:54:47", "text": "Shurmer was also shown a constellation"}, {"end": "00:54:57", "start": "00:54:50", "text": "of a sun surrounded by six planets,"}, {"end": "00:55:00", "start": "00:54:54", "text": "okay, in some type of galaxy. He also"}, {"end": "00:55:03", "start": "00:54:57", "text": "drew out the inside of the craft as well"}, {"end": "00:55:06", "start": "00:55:00", "text": "as the mother ship that was shown to him"}, {"end": "00:55:07", "start": "00:55:03", "text": "on the screen featuring different"}, {"end": "00:55:09", "start": "00:55:06", "text": "symbols on the mother ship. And one of"}, {"end": "00:55:11", "start": "00:55:07", "text": "those symbols, you know, kind of looks"}, {"end": "00:55:14", "start": "00:55:09", "text": "like a snake."}, {"end": "00:55:17", "start": "00:55:11", "text": "Notice the mother ship is also"}, {"end": "00:55:19", "start": "00:55:14", "text": "cylindrical. Shurmer then describes the"}, {"end": "00:55:21", "start": "00:55:17", "text": "beings and he says on the left side of"}, {"end": "00:55:24", "start": "00:55:19", "text": "the space visitor's head was a small"}, {"end": "00:55:27", "start": "00:55:21", "text": "antenna. The skin on his face was of"}, {"end": "00:55:30", "start": "00:55:24", "text": "gray color. His nose was long and flat,"}, {"end": "00:55:32", "start": "00:55:27", "text": "and his mouth was narrow and slit-like."}, {"end": "00:55:34", "start": "00:55:30", "text": "His eyes looked like cat's eyes, said"}, {"end": "00:55:36", "start": "00:55:32", "text": "the spaceman was four four and a half to"}, {"end": "00:55:38", "start": "00:55:34", "text": "5t tall. He wore a close-fitted hooded,"}, {"end": "00:55:40", "start": "00:55:36", "text": "silver gray uniform, black boots, belt,"}, {"end": "00:55:45", "start": "00:55:38", "text": "and gloves. On the left chest was a red"}, {"end": "00:55:47", "start": "00:55:40", "text": "emblem of a winged serpent."}, {"end": "00:55:48", "start": "00:55:45", "text": "The man's proportions were normal. He"}, {"end": "00:55:51", "start": "00:55:47", "text": "says he's not a churchgoer, but looks to"}, {"end": "00:55:54", "start": "00:55:48", "text": "the Bible quote as a source of comfort"}, {"end": "00:55:56", "start": "00:55:51", "text": "that he's not going crazy. From Ezekiel"}, {"end": "00:55:58", "start": "00:55:54", "text": "chapter 1. And I looked, and behold, a"}, {"end": "00:56:02", "start": "00:55:56", "text": "whirlwind came out of the north. A great"}, {"end": "00:56:04", "start": "00:55:58", "text": "cloud and a fire unfolding itself, and a"}, {"end": "00:56:06", "start": "00:56:02", "text": "brightness was about it. Out of the"}, {"end": "00:56:08", "start": "00:56:04", "text": "midst thereof came the likeness of four"}, {"end": "00:56:10", "start": "00:56:06", "text": "living creatures, and this was their"}, {"end": "00:56:13", "start": "00:56:08", "text": "appearance. They had the likeness of"}, {"end": "00:56:15", "start": "00:56:10", "text": "man, of a man. Now, he's told he'd be"}, {"end": "00:56:17", "start": "00:56:13", "text": "revisited by these creatures. He never"}, {"end": "00:56:19", "start": "00:56:15", "text": "was, and he was transparent about that"}, {"end": "00:56:23", "start": "00:56:17", "text": "fact. He wouldn't lie about it. He says"}, {"end": "00:56:26", "start": "00:56:19", "text": "he ended up uh quitting his job"}, {"end": "00:56:29", "start": "00:56:23", "text": "out of ridicule and he was harassed."}, {"end": "00:56:33", "start": "00:56:26", "text": "His car was blown up. According to"}, {"end": "00:56:36", "start": "00:56:29", "text": "Shurmer, there was even an effigy of him"}, {"end": "00:56:38", "start": "00:56:33", "text": "hung by its neck and they put like a a"}, {"end": "00:56:40", "start": "00:56:36", "text": "star on the chest, like a sheriff star,"}, {"end": "00:56:42", "start": "00:56:38", "text": "wrote his name across it and shot holes"}, {"end": "00:56:45", "start": "00:56:40", "text": "into it and then brought it to the morg"}, {"end": "00:56:48", "start": "00:56:42", "text": "as some type of sick practical joke. So"}, {"end": "00:56:49", "start": "00:56:45", "text": "he would pull people over and people"}, {"end": "00:56:51", "start": "00:56:48", "text": "would recognize him from, you know, the"}, {"end": "00:56:53", "start": "00:56:49", "text": "tabloids and the news and the outlets"}, {"end": "00:56:55", "start": "00:56:51", "text": "and they would rip up their speeding"}, {"end": "00:56:58", "start": "00:56:53", "text": "tickets right in front of him. He was"}, {"end": "00:57:02", "start": "00:56:55", "text": "just not willing to sit through the"}, {"end": "00:57:05", "start": "00:56:58", "text": "ridicule anymore and ended up retiring,"}, {"end": "00:57:07", "start": "00:57:02", "text": "but never ever"}, {"end": "00:57:10", "start": "00:57:05", "text": "going back on anything he'd said. and he"}, {"end": "00:57:12", "start": "00:57:07", "text": "even tried to go into uh private"}, {"end": "00:57:14", "start": "00:57:10", "text": "investigation, but when his bosses found"}, {"end": "00:57:18", "start": "00:57:12", "text": "out his sorted UFO past, you know, they"}, {"end": "00:57:21", "start": "00:57:14", "text": "told him to kindly move on. And so, you"}, {"end": "00:57:23", "start": "00:57:18", "text": "know, for somebody who could be hoaxing"}, {"end": "00:57:27", "start": "00:57:21", "text": "or making this up, it's not a really"}, {"end": "00:57:29", "start": "00:57:23", "text": "good financial social strategy. So, if"}, {"end": "00:57:32", "start": "00:57:27", "text": "you're looking for motivation, I just"}, {"end": "00:57:34", "start": "00:57:29", "text": "don't see it here. The winged serpent is"}, {"end": "00:57:36", "start": "00:57:32", "text": "really interesting and so is the being."}, {"end": "00:57:38", "start": "00:57:34", "text": "So is what they look like. And here is"}, {"end": "00:57:41", "start": "00:57:36", "text": "where I made this connection"}, {"end": "00:57:43", "start": "00:57:38", "text": "because in 1979, January 3rd, about 11"}, {"end": "00:57:47", "start": "00:57:41", "text": "years later, just outside Miami,"}, {"end": "00:57:49", "start": "00:57:43", "text": "Florida, Philberto Cardanis,"}, {"end": "00:57:51", "start": "00:57:47", "text": "his friend, his friend's wife and"}, {"end": "00:57:54", "start": "00:57:49", "text": "daughter were driving to get a pig to"}, {"end": "00:57:56", "start": "00:57:51", "text": "eat. They were going to buy a pig when"}, {"end": "00:57:58", "start": "00:57:54", "text": "all of a sudden the car starts breaking"}, {"end": "00:58:00", "start": "00:57:56", "text": "down. The lights don't work. The"}, {"end": "00:58:03", "start": "00:57:58", "text": "ignition doesn't work. They're on this"}, {"end": "00:58:06", "start": "00:58:00", "text": "sort of deserted road. Filibberto gets"}, {"end": "00:58:07", "start": "00:58:03", "text": "out to try and check the wires, try to"}, {"end": "00:58:09", "start": "00:58:06", "text": "see what's going on. When all of a"}, {"end": "00:58:13", "start": "00:58:07", "text": "sudden, he hears a buzzing, what is"}, {"end": "00:58:16", "start": "00:58:09", "text": "described as a sound of a swarm of bees,"}, {"end": "00:58:19", "start": "00:58:13", "text": "followed by a bright blue light that"}, {"end": "00:58:21", "start": "00:58:16", "text": "engulfed him. And then before his"}, {"end": "00:58:24", "start": "00:58:19", "text": "friend's very eyes, Filibberto was"}, {"end": "00:58:26", "start": "00:58:21", "text": "lifted into the air. According to them,"}, {"end": "00:58:29", "start": "00:58:24", "text": "according to three other witnesses, he"}, {"end": "00:58:32", "start": "00:58:26", "text": "was lifted up into the air, screaming,"}, {"end": "00:58:34", "start": "00:58:29", "text": "\"Don't take me. Don't take me.\" left"}, {"end": "00:58:36", "start": "00:58:32", "text": "abandoned."}, {"end": "00:58:38", "start": "00:58:34", "text": "His friends were terrified. The car"}, {"end": "00:58:42", "start": "00:58:36", "text": "began to work again. They took it"}, {"end": "00:58:44", "start": "00:58:38", "text": "directly to the police station."}, {"end": "00:58:46", "start": "00:58:42", "text": "The police, who later logged the case as"}, {"end": "00:58:48", "start": "00:58:44", "text": "a close encounter of the third kind,"}, {"end": "00:58:49", "start": "00:58:46", "text": "officially they wrote this down, a close"}, {"end": "00:58:50", "start": "00:58:48", "text": "encounter of the third kind. I think it"}, {"end": "00:58:51", "start": "00:58:49", "text": "was Miami Dade County, which is"}, {"end": "00:58:54", "start": "00:58:50", "text": "interesting because it's also near"}, {"end": "00:58:56", "start": "00:58:51", "text": "Homestead, which is home of Coral"}, {"end": "00:58:59", "start": "00:58:54", "text": "Castle, and so many other interesting um"}, {"end": "00:59:01", "start": "00:58:56", "text": "you know, things that have taken place."}, {"end": "00:59:05", "start": "00:58:59", "text": "Filibberto was found"}, {"end": "00:59:07", "start": "00:59:01", "text": "hours later about 16 miles away from"}, {"end": "00:59:10", "start": "00:59:05", "text": "where he was last seen disoriented,"}, {"end": "00:59:13", "start": "00:59:07", "text": "dizzy,"}, {"end": "00:59:15", "start": "00:59:10", "text": "and could barely speak Spanish."}, {"end": "00:59:16", "start": "00:59:13", "text": "Under hypnotic aggression, he remembered"}, {"end": "00:59:18", "start": "00:59:15", "text": "more than he could at first. He"}, {"end": "00:59:20", "start": "00:59:16", "text": "described being taken aboard a craft by"}, {"end": "00:59:23", "start": "00:59:18", "text": "humansized figures in silver one-piece"}, {"end": "00:59:25", "start": "00:59:20", "text": "suits with hoods and button-like"}, {"end": "00:59:28", "start": "00:59:23", "text": "earpieces."}, {"end": "00:59:30", "start": "00:59:25", "text": "On their chest was a serpent insignia."}, {"end": "00:59:32", "start": "00:59:28", "text": "Their"}, {"end": "00:59:36", "start": "00:59:30", "text": "faces were humanlike but emotionless."}, {"end": "00:59:38", "start": "00:59:32", "text": "Slanted dark eyes with lashes, a flat"}, {"end": "00:59:40", "start": "00:59:36", "text": "nose, and a long thin mouth that barely"}, {"end": "00:59:43", "start": "00:59:38", "text": "moved. They placed a helmet-like device"}, {"end": "00:59:45", "start": "00:59:40", "text": "on his head, and he heard them switch"}, {"end": "00:59:47", "start": "00:59:43", "text": "through languages almost electronically,"}, {"end": "00:59:49", "start": "00:59:45", "text": "German, English, Spanish, as though"}, {"end": "00:59:51", "start": "00:59:47", "text": "cycling through frequencies until they"}, {"end": "00:59:54", "start": "00:59:49", "text": "settled upon a tongue he understood. So"}, {"end": "00:59:56", "start": "00:59:51", "text": "already we're finding multiple"}, {"end": "00:59:58", "start": "00:59:54", "text": "correlations to the previous story. the"}, {"end": "01:00:00", "start": "00:59:56", "text": "technology used for languages, the"}, {"end": "01:00:03", "start": "00:59:58", "text": "earpiece, the suit, I mean the physical"}, {"end": "01:00:05", "start": "01:00:00", "text": "appearance of them, including"}, {"end": "01:00:08", "start": "01:00:03", "text": "the serpent emblem or insignia."}, {"end": "01:00:09", "start": "01:00:05", "text": "Then came the examinations, long needles"}, {"end": "01:00:12", "start": "01:00:08", "text": "piercing his flesh, clusters of puncture"}, {"end": "01:00:14", "start": "01:00:09", "text": "marks, later confirmed by doctors."}, {"end": "01:00:17", "start": "01:00:12", "text": "They showed him alien horizons and led"}, {"end": "01:00:19", "start": "01:00:14", "text": "him beneath the sea through an opening"}, {"end": "01:00:22", "start": "01:00:17", "text": "in the rock into what felt like an"}, {"end": "01:00:24", "start": "01:00:19", "text": "underwater base."}, {"end": "01:00:25", "start": "01:00:22", "text": "The walls glowed, the air vibrated with"}, {"end": "01:00:28", "start": "01:00:24", "text": "energy, and the machinery seemed alive."}, {"end": "01:00:33", "start": "01:00:25", "text": "Also in this base when he got here there"}, {"end": "01:00:36", "start": "01:00:28", "text": "was a giant serpent symbol on the door."}, {"end": "01:00:39", "start": "01:00:33", "text": "Where have we heard this before? Lerta."}, {"end": "01:00:42", "start": "01:00:36", "text": "We'll get there. And a few months later"}, {"end": "01:00:45", "start": "01:00:39", "text": "it happened again. Uh this time his wife"}, {"end": "01:00:46", "start": "01:00:42", "text": "was taken with him. Iris under"}, {"end": "01:00:49", "start": "01:00:45", "text": "regression. She also confirmed many of"}, {"end": "01:00:51", "start": "01:00:46", "text": "the same details. The silver suits, the"}, {"end": "01:00:54", "start": "01:00:49", "text": "serpent emblem, the strange language"}, {"end": "01:00:56", "start": "01:00:51", "text": "switching. And together they were told"}, {"end": "01:00:59", "start": "01:00:54", "text": "that humanity faced famine, wars, and"}, {"end": "01:01:00", "start": "01:00:56", "text": "the arrival of a great light in the sky."}, {"end": "01:01:02", "start": "01:00:59", "text": "An event that would force mankind to"}, {"end": "01:01:04", "start": "01:01:00", "text": "choose between destruction or"}, {"end": "01:01:05", "start": "01:01:02", "text": "transformation. The marks on their"}, {"end": "01:01:08", "start": "01:01:04", "text": "bodies, the consistency of their"}, {"end": "01:01:10", "start": "01:01:05", "text": "memories, the witnesses who saw Filberto"}, {"end": "01:01:13", "start": "01:01:08", "text": "taken in the police report itself, all"}, {"end": "01:01:15", "start": "01:01:10", "text": "remain so interesting. I think it's"}, {"end": "01:01:16", "start": "01:01:13", "text": "funny, too. And we'll perhaps do a whole"}, {"end": "01:01:18", "start": "01:01:15", "text": "other episode on the Cardanas because I"}, {"end": "01:01:21", "start": "01:01:16", "text": "think that one deserves it. I do have"}, {"end": "01:01:22", "start": "01:01:18", "text": "the hypnotic transcripts. There are four"}, {"end": "01:01:23", "start": "01:01:21", "text": "sessions that we can read through which"}, {"end": "01:01:26", "start": "01:01:22", "text": "would be really interesting because they"}, {"end": "01:01:29", "start": "01:01:23", "text": "say some interesting stuff about China"}, {"end": "01:01:31", "start": "01:01:26", "text": "uh leading the way for disclosure which"}, {"end": "01:01:33", "start": "01:01:29", "text": "is kind of messed up and the fact that"}, {"end": "01:01:35", "start": "01:01:31", "text": "they're working closely with China. I"}, {"end": "01:01:37", "start": "01:01:33", "text": "don't know really interesting but one of"}, {"end": "01:01:40", "start": "01:01:35", "text": "the funny little tidbits is that she"}, {"end": "01:01:42", "start": "01:01:37", "text": "lights up a cigarette in their USO base"}, {"end": "01:01:44", "start": "01:01:40", "text": "underwater and she lights up this"}, {"end": "01:01:46", "start": "01:01:42", "text": "cigarette and they all start sneezing"}, {"end": "01:01:48", "start": "01:01:44", "text": "and then he asks her to put it out"}, {"end": "01:01:51", "start": "01:01:46", "text": "because it's like bad for bad for their"}, {"end": "01:01:54", "start": "01:01:48", "text": "health. So, like why would you even add"}, {"end": "01:01:57", "start": "01:01:51", "text": "that into the story? It seems so silly."}, {"end": "01:01:59", "start": "01:01:54", "text": "We are now going to shift to a few other"}, {"end": "01:02:02", "start": "01:01:57", "text": "cases"}, {"end": "01:02:04", "start": "01:01:59", "text": "that feature these emblems."}, {"end": "01:02:07", "start": "01:02:02", "text": "Newfoundland, Morlands, Newfoundland,"}, {"end": "01:02:11", "start": "01:02:04", "text": "the fall of 1974, perhaps 7 years after"}, {"end": "01:02:14", "start": "01:02:07", "text": "Herbert Shurmer. A lone male driver"}, {"end": "01:02:17", "start": "01:02:11", "text": "radio dies surrounded by a glowing blue"}, {"end": "01:02:20", "start": "01:02:14", "text": "light. A cone-shaped craft with blue and"}, {"end": "01:02:23", "start": "01:02:17", "text": "red lights later seen landed in four"}, {"end": "01:02:27", "start": "01:02:20", "text": "legs. Okay. But a very tall man in a"}, {"end": "01:02:31", "start": "01:02:23", "text": "silvery suit with a black chest crest, a"}, {"end": "01:02:33", "start": "01:02:27", "text": "metallic triangle with a black snake"}, {"end": "01:02:35", "start": "01:02:31", "text": "appeared. And then he loses time. Three"}, {"end": "01:02:38", "start": "01:02:33", "text": "hours missing and and he appears back in"}, {"end": "01:02:41", "start": "01:02:35", "text": "his car. Okay, no regression there to"}, {"end": "01:02:42", "start": "01:02:38", "text": "report, but we got a silvery suit. Okay,"}, {"end": "01:02:44", "start": "01:02:41", "text": "there's a height difference. Maybe"}, {"end": "01:02:47", "start": "01:02:42", "text": "multiple races working together. Not"}, {"end": "01:02:52", "start": "01:02:44", "text": "unheard of, but also an emblem with a"}, {"end": "01:02:56", "start": "01:02:47", "text": "snake again. Now, let's go to 1973,"}, {"end": "01:03:00", "start": "01:02:52", "text": "a year before, November 3rd, 1973,"}, {"end": "01:03:03", "start": "01:02:56", "text": "about 80 km north of Bogota, Enrique"}, {"end": "01:03:06", "start": "01:03:00", "text": "Castillo Rinkon reports being abducted."}, {"end": "01:03:08", "start": "01:03:03", "text": "He puts this in a book, but one of the"}, {"end": "01:03:11", "start": "01:03:06", "text": "notable things, first of all, he says uh"}, {"end": "01:03:15", "start": "01:03:08", "text": "he was abducted by plleadian type, so"}, {"end": "01:03:18", "start": "01:03:11", "text": "tall sort of like blondish characters,"}, {"end": "01:03:21", "start": "01:03:15", "text": "but they also had a winged serpent"}, {"end": "01:03:21", "start": "01:03:18", "text": "symbol."}, {"end": "01:03:28", "start": "01:03:22", "text": "And yet another connection here because"}, {"end": "01:03:30", "start": "01:03:24", "text": "in 1978 a gentleman by the name of Bill"}, {"end": "01:03:32", "start": "01:03:28", "text": "Herman"}, {"end": "01:03:35", "start": "01:03:30", "text": "uh Bill Herman's had multiple multiple"}, {"end": "01:03:37", "start": "01:03:32", "text": "encounters. You can read about them in"}, {"end": "01:03:40", "start": "01:03:35", "text": "the Wendell Stevens books. But that is a"}, {"end": "01:03:42", "start": "01:03:37", "text": "photo right there that Bill Herman took."}, {"end": "01:03:47", "start": "01:03:40", "text": "He took some of the most compelling UFO"}, {"end": "01:03:48", "start": "01:03:42", "text": "pictures I have ever seen in my life."}, {"end": "01:03:51", "start": "01:03:47", "text": "He says that these beings were from"}, {"end": "01:03:54", "start": "01:03:48", "text": "Reticulum."}, {"end": "01:03:56", "start": "01:03:51", "text": "And wouldn't you know it, these beings"}, {"end": "01:04:00", "start": "01:03:54", "text": "on their little jumpsuits"}, {"end": "01:04:02", "start": "01:03:56", "text": "had a serpent with wings."}, {"end": "01:04:05", "start": "01:04:00", "text": "Now, these weren't the same beings. They"}, {"end": "01:04:08", "start": "01:04:02", "text": "were wearing rustcoled jumpsuits."}, {"end": "01:04:11", "start": "01:04:05", "text": "They were about 4 and 1/2 ft tall, had"}, {"end": "01:04:15", "start": "01:04:08", "text": "like spongil like skin, large pale heads"}, {"end": "01:04:18", "start": "01:04:11", "text": "with big round brown hazel eyes, small"}, {"end": "01:04:19", "start": "01:04:15", "text": "mouths."}, {"end": "01:04:21", "start": "01:04:18", "text": "Doesn't this sound like another"}, {"end": "01:04:24", "start": "01:04:19", "text": "description? Yes, folks. If you're not"}, {"end": "01:04:29", "start": "01:04:21", "text": "familiar, Travis Walton describes the"}, {"end": "01:04:32", "start": "01:04:24", "text": "exact same beings,"}, {"end": "01:04:35", "start": "01:04:29", "text": "rustcoled jumpsuits,"}, {"end": "01:04:37", "start": "01:04:32", "text": "big round eyes, big round pale heads,"}, {"end": "01:04:40", "start": "01:04:35", "text": "and they all communicated"}, {"end": "01:04:41", "start": "01:04:37", "text": "telepathically. To wrap this up in a"}, {"end": "01:04:43", "start": "01:04:40", "text": "nice, neat little bow, because I know"}, {"end": "01:04:45", "start": "01:04:41", "text": "this is a lot of information from a lot"}, {"end": "01:04:48", "start": "01:04:43", "text": "of different directions that we'll"}, {"end": "01:04:50", "start": "01:04:45", "text": "eventually hopefully get into,"}, {"end": "01:04:54", "start": "01:04:48", "text": "Lucerta."}, {"end": "01:04:57", "start": "01:04:50", "text": "Lerta, I think, is probably"}, {"end": "01:04:59", "start": "01:04:54", "text": "some of the most interesting"}, {"end": "01:05:01", "start": "01:04:57", "text": "pieces of information here. Now, we"}, {"end": "01:05:03", "start": "01:04:59", "text": "don't know for a fact that Lerta wasn't"}, {"end": "01:05:05", "start": "01:05:01", "text": "copied from all of these previous"}, {"end": "01:05:09", "start": "01:05:03", "text": "things. Obviously, I'm aware of this"}, {"end": "01:05:12", "start": "01:05:05", "text": "that the original report in 1968 could"}, {"end": "01:05:14", "start": "01:05:09", "text": "have, you know,"}, {"end": "01:05:17", "start": "01:05:12", "text": "everything else that followed could have"}, {"end": "01:05:20", "start": "01:05:14", "text": "been copied from, right? I get it. But"}, {"end": "01:05:20", "start": "01:05:17", "text": "Lerta"}, {"end": "01:05:29", "start": "01:05:21", "text": "says that her species symbol was a blue"}, {"end": "01:05:34", "start": "01:05:26", "text": "serpent with four white wings on a black"}, {"end": "01:05:38", "start": "01:05:29", "text": "background. Lerta also mentions"}, {"end": "01:05:40", "start": "01:05:34", "text": "large cigar- shaped carriers"}, {"end": "01:05:43", "start": "01:05:38", "text": "that feature their symbols on the"}, {"end": "01:05:46", "start": "01:05:40", "text": "outside of them,"}, {"end": "01:05:49", "start": "01:05:43", "text": "not unlike what Herbert Shurmer"}, {"end": "01:05:51", "start": "01:05:46", "text": "was shown. She talks about technology"}, {"end": "01:05:52", "start": "01:05:49", "text": "based in magnetism and manipulation of"}, {"end": "01:05:55", "start": "01:05:51", "text": "gravity."}, {"end": "01:05:56", "start": "01:05:52", "text": "Talks about telepathy, obviously that's"}, {"end": "01:05:59", "start": "01:05:55", "text": "been used, you know, throughout most of"}, {"end": "01:06:02", "start": "01:05:56", "text": "these cases. Did we somehow stumble upon"}, {"end": "01:06:05", "start": "01:05:59", "text": "some type of"}, {"end": "01:06:06", "start": "01:06:02", "text": "galactic crew?"}, {"end": "01:06:08", "start": "01:06:05", "text": "Some"}, {"end": "01:06:12", "start": "01:06:06", "text": "interdimensional or interplanetary"}, {"end": "01:06:14", "start": "01:06:08", "text": "faction that sports these symbols?"}, {"end": "01:06:16", "start": "01:06:12", "text": "Folks, I am so excited about this. Like,"}, {"end": "01:06:18", "start": "01:06:14", "text": "I don't know. Like I'm trying to like"}, {"end": "01:06:20", "start": "01:06:16", "text": "make everything very concise for you,"}, {"end": "01:06:22", "start": "01:06:18", "text": "but like even Bill Herman, I would love"}, {"end": "01:06:26", "start": "01:06:20", "text": "to get into this because he also"}, {"end": "01:06:28", "start": "01:06:22", "text": "received like script downloads of like"}, {"end": "01:06:30", "start": "01:06:26", "text": "symbols that he wrote down and he was"}, {"end": "01:06:32", "start": "01:06:28", "text": "given a piece of metal. Like there's all"}, {"end": "01:06:35", "start": "01:06:30", "text": "sorts of really interesting stuff. And"}, {"end": "01:06:36", "start": "01:06:32", "text": "then you know, Filibberto Cardinius, his"}, {"end": "01:06:38", "start": "01:06:35", "text": "story is just so fascinating as well"}, {"end": "01:06:40", "start": "01:06:36", "text": "because we have all this information"}, {"end": "01:06:43", "start": "01:06:38", "text": "that they left him with technical data"}, {"end": "01:06:45", "start": "01:06:40", "text": "and and you know, just really"}, {"end": "01:06:46", "start": "01:06:43", "text": "interesting stuff."}, {"end": "01:06:48", "start": "01:06:45", "text": "And hopefully we'll get into that in the"}, {"end": "01:06:49", "start": "01:06:46", "text": "future. Hopefully that's something that"}, {"end": "01:06:51", "start": "01:06:48", "text": "you guys uh would want to see because I"}, {"end": "01:06:54", "start": "01:06:49", "text": "would love to bring that up. But lastly,"}, {"end": "01:06:55", "start": "01:06:51", "text": "I want to leave you with this. I'm going"}, {"end": "01:06:57", "start": "01:06:54", "text": "to read to you a little bit of a"}, {"end": "01:06:59", "start": "01:06:55", "text": "paragraph here that puts some of this"}, {"end": "01:07:03", "start": "01:06:57", "text": "into context and maybe gives us a little"}, {"end": "01:07:05", "start": "01:06:59", "text": "bit more guidance on why this symbol is"}, {"end": "01:07:06", "start": "01:07:03", "text": "important. You see, the image of the"}, {"end": "01:07:09", "start": "01:07:05", "text": "winged serpent appears in myths and"}, {"end": "01:07:10", "start": "01:07:06", "text": "sacred traditions across the world. In"}, {"end": "01:07:13", "start": "01:07:09", "text": "Greek mythology,"}, {"end": "01:07:15", "start": "01:07:10", "text": "the draconas were serpent dragons, often"}, {"end": "01:07:17", "start": "01:07:13", "text": "shown with wings, fierce guardians of"}, {"end": "01:07:19", "start": "01:07:15", "text": "treasures in sacred places such as the"}, {"end": "01:07:22", "start": "01:07:17", "text": "golden fleece."}, {"end": "01:07:25", "start": "01:07:19", "text": "In Asia, Chinese and Japanese dragons"}, {"end": "01:07:27", "start": "01:07:22", "text": "combine the serpent's body with wings or"}, {"end": "01:07:29", "start": "01:07:25", "text": "flight through clouds, symbols of"}, {"end": "01:07:30", "start": "01:07:27", "text": "transformation, power, and cosmic"}, {"end": "01:07:34", "start": "01:07:29", "text": "balance."}, {"end": "01:07:37", "start": "01:07:30", "text": "In India, the Nagas are powerful serpent"}, {"end": "01:07:40", "start": "01:07:34", "text": "beings, sometimes winged, associated"}, {"end": "01:07:43", "start": "01:07:37", "text": "with wisdom, water, and the underworld."}, {"end": "01:07:45", "start": "01:07:40", "text": "While Garuda, the eagle mount of Vishnu,"}, {"end": "01:07:48", "start": "01:07:43", "text": "is often depicted in eternal struggle"}, {"end": "01:07:51", "start": "01:07:45", "text": "with serpents, embodying the dynamic"}, {"end": "01:07:56", "start": "01:07:48", "text": "between sky and earth. In Meso America,"}, {"end": "01:07:59", "start": "01:07:51", "text": "the Aztec and Mayan deity Quest Katal"}, {"end": "01:08:02", "start": "01:07:56", "text": "or Kukul Khan, the feathered serpent was"}, {"end": "01:08:05", "start": "01:07:59", "text": "revered as a god of creation, knowledge,"}, {"end": "01:08:07", "start": "01:08:02", "text": "and renewal, bridging the heavens and"}, {"end": "01:08:10", "start": "01:08:05", "text": "the earth. Similar motifs appear among"}, {"end": "01:08:12", "start": "01:08:07", "text": "South American cultures where winged"}, {"end": "01:08:14", "start": "01:08:10", "text": "serpents symbolized fertility,"}, {"end": "01:08:15", "start": "01:08:12", "text": "transformation, and the divine"}, {"end": "01:08:18", "start": "01:08:14", "text": "connection between the natural and"}, {"end": "01:08:21", "start": "01:08:15", "text": "supernatural worlds. Across these"}, {"end": "01:08:23", "start": "01:08:18", "text": "traditions, the winged serpent unites"}, {"end": "01:08:26", "start": "01:08:21", "text": "heaven and earth, embodying wisdom,"}, {"end": "01:08:31", "start": "01:08:23", "text": "hidden knowledge, and the threshold"}, {"end": "01:08:31", "start": "01:08:26", "text": "between mortal and divine realms."}, {"end": "01:08:40", "start": "01:08:31", "text": "Are these species all working together?"}, {"end": "01:08:43", "start": "01:08:36", "text": "Is this just one part of the phenomenon"}, {"end": "01:08:45", "start": "01:08:40", "text": "that we're observing? Or like Lerta"}, {"end": "01:08:49", "start": "01:08:43", "text": "said, are there many factions that are"}, {"end": "01:08:50", "start": "01:08:45", "text": "fighting for this planet or for us? Are"}, {"end": "01:08:52", "start": "01:08:49", "text": "there species that are simply"}, {"end": "01:08:54", "start": "01:08:50", "text": "indifferent?"}, {"end": "01:08:59", "start": "01:08:52", "text": "Are we a giant farm? Are we an"}, {"end": "01:08:59", "start": "01:08:54", "text": "experiment? Are we slaves?"}, {"end": "01:09:03", "start": "01:08:59", "text": "One thing's for certain,"}, {"end": "01:09:10", "start": "01:09:03", "text": "it doesn't look like we're in charge."}, {"end": "01:09:12", "start": "01:09:07", "text": "Folks, this was such a joy, such a fun"}, {"end": "01:09:14", "start": "01:09:10", "text": "episode. I learned so much. I hope you"}, {"end": "01:09:16", "start": "01:09:12", "text": "did as well. If you want to support"}, {"end": "01:09:19", "start": "01:09:14", "text": "Area52, join the membership here on"}, {"end": "01:09:21", "start": "01:09:16", "text": "YouTube or patreon.com/era52"}, {"end": "01:09:23", "start": "01:09:19", "text": "investigations. And if you just want to"}, {"end": "01:09:26", "start": "01:09:21", "text": "further the conversation and keep the"}, {"end": "01:09:27", "start": "01:09:23", "text": "flow going, head over to our Discord"}, {"end": "01:09:30", "start": "01:09:26", "text": "channel where the conversation never"}, {"end": "01:09:32", "start": "01:09:27", "text": "ends. I hope you enjoy your weekend and"}, {"end": "01:09:35", "start": "01:09:30", "text": "we'll see you on the next video. Peace"}, {"end": "01:09:35", "start": "01:09:32", "text": "and love."}, {"end": "01:09:51", "start": "01:09:35", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "In today's episode, I'm going to tell"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "you about one of the strangest objects"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "ever found in recorded history. And even"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "more bizarre is its origins, which,"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "well, you'll just have to watch. You"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "won't want to miss this one. On the"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "morning of September 3rd, 1973, a"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "45-year-old miner named Kobis Venttor"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "climbed into the Wondersstone Silver"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "Mine near Osdale, South Africa,"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "adjusting his lamp on his helmet for"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "what must have been the thousandth time"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "in his career. He had been working in"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "the mine since he was 17. And after"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "nearly three decades underground, he was"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "pretty confident how to handle himself."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "And in fact, he was kind of a legend"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "among the younger miners. They even"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "called him Doman or the old man, even"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "though he wasn't really that old. It was"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "more about respect really. But this"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "morning, Kobus was leading a small crew"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "into a section of the mine that had just"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "been opened up the week before. They"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "blasted through about 500 ft of rock to"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "reach a new vein of pyolite. That's the"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "soft soapy mineral they were mining."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "It's used in cosmetics, paint, you know,"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "just a variety of different things. It's"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "not particularly valuable, but there was"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "a steady demand for it. So, the entrance"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "to the mine itself was really just a"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "hole in the side of a hill. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "there's really nothing fancy going on at"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "all. There's no elevator or really any"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "railway. It's just a single steep path"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "that wound down into the dark. So, as"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "Kobus began his descent that morning,"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "followed by three younger miners, he did"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "what he always did, and that is he ran"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "his hands along the wall to feel the"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "stone. Experienced miners will tell you"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "that a mine talks to you. I mean, not"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "literally, obviously, but the rocks do"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "give you signals. Temperature changes,"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "moisture levels, even the way the sound"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "reverberates. I mean, it all tells you"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "about what's ahead. And that morning, as"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "Kobus descended deeper and deeper down"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "into the earth, the rock felt different"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "than it normally does. Now, he couldn't"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "exactly put his finger on it, but there"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "was just something that felt off. Now,"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "they were about 500 ft underground in a"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "tunnel that was maybe 6 ft high and 4t"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "wide, just big enough for a man to walk"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "through if he ducked his head a bit. The"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "walls were rough and they were still"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "showing the scars from the dynamite"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "blast that had created this very"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "passage. And every few feet there were"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "these wooden support beams holding up"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "the ceiling, though honestly they were"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "like toothpicks compared to the millions"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "of tons of rock directly above them."}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "Kobas's lamp illuminated maybe 20 ft"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "ahead of him. And beyond that was just"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "solid, complete darkness. The kind of"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "darkness you can only get deep"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "underground where sunlight has never"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "reached and never will."}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "This episode of What Lurks Beneath is"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "sponsored by Mint Mole. Now, as you're"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "hearing about these strange spheres and"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "even you are convinced that there's no"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "way these things could be natural, you'd"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "be right. I mean, some things in life"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "are way too complicated. Your cell phone"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "bill shouldn't be one of them. That's"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "why you should switch to Mint Mobile."}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "They've reimagined the wireless"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "experience by putting the whole thing"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "online. You know, no stores, no"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "salespeople, no nonsense, just premium"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "wireless that starts at 15 bucks a"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "month. Every plan comes with unlimited"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "talk and text on the nation's largest 5G"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "network. Plus, free calling to Canada,"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "Mexico, and the UK. And if you're on the"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "go, hotspots included, up to 10 GB on"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "unlimited plans. But here's the real"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "anomaly. You actually save more by"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "buying in bulk. Mint offers three, six,"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "and 12 month plans. So the more months"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "you grab up front, the more you save."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "You can even pick your own data size. 5"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "GB, 15, 20, or unlimited. So you are not"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "paying for data you'll never use. If"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "you're worried about switching, well,"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "that's pretty easy, too. You can sign up"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "and activate right from your couch in"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "minutes with ESIM. You keep your number,"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "your contacts, everything stays the"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "same. So, if you're ready to stop"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "overpaying for your phone and start"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "simplifying like a sane human being,"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "head to the link below and get your"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "threemonth introductory plan today."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "Premium wireless that starts at 15 bucks"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "a month. Just click the link in the"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "description below. As they walked deeper"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "into the tunnel, one of the younger"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "miners, a kid named Peter, who'd only"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "been working in the mines for about 6"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "months, started talking nervously. He"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "was asking Kobas about the rock"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "formations and about how old these"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "deposits were. Partly to calm the kid"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "down and partly because he actually"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "found geology interesting, he started"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "explaining the rock they were walking"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "through was precamrian or what they"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "suspect is nearly 3 billion years old."}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "Of course, Peter laughed nervously and"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "was like, \"Three billion? There's no"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "way. There's nothing that old.\" But"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "Kobas explained that when the rock"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "formed, there was no life on Earth. No"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "animals. There was no plants. There was"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "just really a lot of water, rock, and"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "poisonous air. It was a completely"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "different planet. And they continued"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "walking. And then Kobas stopped"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "abruptly, and Peter nearly walked into"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "him. And he asked him, \"What is it? Why"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "did you stop? What's going on?\" But"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "Kobas didn't answer. He just quickly put"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "his fingers to his lips and he began"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "listening intently. He had obviously"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "heard something. It wasn't a sound that"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "meant danger, but it was something else."}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "It was a kind of noise. Even though it"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "was very faint, it actually sounded like"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "somebody had struck a bell deeper in the"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "mine. So he turned to Peter and was"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "like, \"Do you hear that?\" And again,"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "everybody stopped and listened intently."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "And after a brief moment, Peter told him"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "that he didn't hear anything. However,"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "Kobus had it was this faint metallic"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "ringing and it was coming from the rock"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "wall directly to their left. Kobus moved"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "his lamp closer to the wall, examining"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "it very carefully. Now, the rock here"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "where he was looking looked the same as"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "everywhere else, right? Rough, grayish"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "brown, scarred from blasting. It's just"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "stone. But as he ran his hand over it,"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "he felt something. There was a spot that"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "was really smooth, like perfectly"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "smooth, and it was actually about the"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "size of a golf ball. And so Kerbus"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "turned to Peter and he's like, \"Hand me"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "a pick right now.\" So he handed Kobas a"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "small picking hammer and he slowly began"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "carefully chipping away at the rock"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "around the very, very smooth spot. And"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "of course, you know, the other miners,"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "they crowded around and their lamps all"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "focused on the same area and it created"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "a bright circle of light in the"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "otherwise pitch black tunnel. And as"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "Kobas worked, more of the smooth surface"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "was revealed. This smooth part of the"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "stone was actually curved and it had a"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "different color than the surrounding"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "rock. It was darker and it almost kind"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "of had this this kind of metallic sheen"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "to it. And all the other miners when"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "they saw it began muttering to each"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "other. They're like, \"What is this? What"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "could this possibly be?\" They didn't"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "know. But Kobas didn't have an answer"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "either. He just kept chipping away,"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "being very careful not to hit whatever"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "this thing was directly. After about 10"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "or so minutes of careful work, he'd"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "exposed enough to see what exactly they"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "were looking at. And he held it in his"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "hand and they all kind of looked at it"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "and they marveled. They're like, \"Wow,"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "it was a sphere about the size of a"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "cricket ball, perfectly round.\" And as"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "far as they could tell, actually"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "embedded in the stone like it had been"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "there when the rock formed. A lot of"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "them suspected that this couldn't have"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "been possible because this rock that"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "they were in was what they thought was"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "around 2.8 billion years old. There was"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "nothing on Earth that old that can make"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "a sphere so perfect. Well, Kobus reached"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "out and he touched it. The surface was"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "incredibly smooth. It was almost like"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "glassy. It was also cooler to the touch,"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "cooler than the surrounding rock, which"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "again didn't make any sense cuz remember"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "they were 500 ft underground. Everything"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "should be roughly the same temperature."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "Peter grew increasingly nervous at the"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "sight of this. And he began stuttering"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "and stammering. You know, should we take"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "it out? What do we do with this? What is"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "it? I don't have a good feeling. And you"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "know, they all kind of sat and thought"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "about it. And part of Kobus wanted to"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "leave it alone. There was something"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "really unsettling about finding"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "something so obviously artificial in"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "rock this old. But his curiosity won."}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "And together they carefully chipped away"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "more rock until the sphere was loose"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "enough to remove. And so Kobas pulled it"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "free and he held it in his hand. And"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "they all kind of looked at it and they"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "marveled. They're like, \"Wow, it was a"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "sphere about the size of a cricket"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "ball.\" There were no seams. There were"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "no rough spots or indication of how it"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "was made, but there were these little"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "grooves running around it. From what he"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "could see, there were three parallel"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "lines perfectly spaced circling the"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "sphere like latitude lines on a globe."}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "It was really heavy, much heavier than a"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "rock that size should be. Kashino turned"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "it over in his hands and he was"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "examining it from every angle and he"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "noticed something about this sphere that"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "really creeped him out. Somehow, even"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "though the sphere appeared solid, like"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "there was something moving like liquid"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "or smoke or something swirling around in"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "it. And you know, all the men were taken"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "back by what they were looking at. Ger"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "was frightened. Obviously, Kobas was"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "trying to calm him down and just told"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "him it's just minerals or something, you"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "know, catching the light in a weird way."}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "But even as he said it, he didn't really"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "believe it because the movement inside"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "the sphere wasn't random. It had"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "patterns like it was responding to being"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "held. Now, they knew they needed to show"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "this to somebody and ASAP. So, they"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "marked the spot where they'd found it"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "and headed back up to the surface. Kobus"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "carrying the sphere carefully in his"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "hands. It seemed to get heavier as they"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "climbed, which didn't make any sense."}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "And all of them the entire time up could"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "still hear that ringing sound coming"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "from the sphere. When they emerged into"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "the sunlight, Kobas had to squint"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "against the sun. And the grooves were so"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "precise they could have been cut by a"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "machine. What machine existed nearly"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "three billion years ago? They brought"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "the sphere to the mines's office where"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "the site supervisor, a man named"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "Hendrickk Pritorius, was doing"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "paperwork. When Kobus set the sphere on"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "his desk, Hendrickk just stared at it."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "He was flabbergasted by this, and he"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "started asking the four men, \"Where did"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "you find this?\" Kobus explained that"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "they were in section 7B, about 500 ft"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "down and embedded in the rock. But not"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "just any section of rock. Again, this"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "was precamrian rock. Hendrickk picked up"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "the sphere, you know, testing its"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "weight, and his expression grew more"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "confused the longer he held it. After"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "several moments of not saying anything,"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "he just said that this is simply too"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "heavy to be pyalite. And in fact, it was"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "too heavy to be any rock that he knew"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "of. I mean, even after holding it up to"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "the light and, you know, examining the"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "grooves and the spaces very carefully,"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "he really had no idea what it was and"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "knew that they needed to contact the"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "University of Johannesburg to have"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "geologist examine it further. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "they had no idea what they were dealing"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "with. Dr. Franuis Grer from the"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "University of Johannesburg arrived at"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "the mine 3 days later. He was a thin,"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "nervous man in his 50s who'd spent most"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "of his career studying South African"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "rock formations. When Hendrickk showed"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "him the sphere, his first reaction, of"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "course, was to laugh. I mean, he was"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "convinced they had brought him all the"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "way out here just to play some stupid"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "elaborate joke. And, you know,"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "rightfully so, he got really irritated"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "because he was convinced that this was"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "clearly manufactured. And he's like,"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "\"Why would you pull me away from my work"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "just to waste my time?\" But before he"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "could finish his tangent, Kobus"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "explained that no, this wasn't"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "manufactured, at least by them, and they"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "had actually found this embedded in the"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "pre-Cambrian rock, and that he himself"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "had dug it out. Obviously, Dr. Grler"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "wasn't sure what to think. He picked up"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "the sphere and examined it closer with"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "the magnifying glass, and the more he"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "looked, the more puzzled he became. Now,"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "he would have to show Francois exactly"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "where he got this. And so together they"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "descended back into the mine all the way"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "to section 7B. Kobus pointed to the spot"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "where he'd extracted the sphere and Dr."}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "Grbler examined the cavity in the rock,"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "you know, taking photographs and"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "measurements and he even took samples of"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "the surrounding rock. Now I need you to"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "understand that for these two men and"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "everybody at the time who was involved"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "with this was completely flabbergasted."}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "This didn't make any sense. The rock"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "matrix itself showed no signs of"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "intrusion. But they could see that this"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "sphere was there when the rock had"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "formed. What again what they believed"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "was nearly 3 billion years ago. For them"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "that just couldn't happen. There was no"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "way. And so as Dr. Grler was examining"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "the extraction site, his flashlight beam"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "caught something else. There was another"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "smooth spot in the rock only about 3 ft"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "away from where the first sphere had"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "been found. and another one and another"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "one. They extracted them carefully,"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "although the next one was smaller, about"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "the size of a marble, but otherwise"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "identical. The same perfect spherical"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "shape, the grooves. I mean, pretty much"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "an exact twin, or I guess you would call"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "it a replica, not a twin, right? And"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "after finding this, over the next few"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "weeks, the mine conducted a systematic"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "search. They found even more spheres, a"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "whole lot more. And by the end of the"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "month, they had extracted"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "127 from section 7B alone. Now, they did"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "range in size. You had everything from a"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "few millimeters to about 10 cm in"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "diameter. Some had one groove, some had"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "three, some didn't have any. But the"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "underlying connection here is that they"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "were all perfectly spherical. Not really"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "sure what to make of this discovery, Dr."}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "Grler sent several spheres to various"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "universities in the world for analysis."}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "And what's interesting is when the"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "results came back, not only were they"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "confusing, but they were contradictory."}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "Right? So the University of Cape Town"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "said that these were just natural"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "concretions. Basically, mineral deposits"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "had formed into spheres through"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "geological processes over many, many"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "years. But they couldn't explain the"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "grooves or even the unusual weight. Now,"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "a lab in Germany had analyzed the metal"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "content and found an iron nickel alloy"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "with traces of aridium, which is a"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "composition typically found in"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "meteorites. But these weren't"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "meteorites. These were found inside"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "earth rock. A Japanese research team"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "claimed the spheres were radioactive. A"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "British team said they weren't. An"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "American lab said they were hollow. A"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "Russian lab said they were solid. So,"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "wait, what? It was like the spheres were"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "different things to different"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "instruments or like they would somehow"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "change properties. Meanwhile, Kobas had"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "kept one of the spheres. Actually, the"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "first one he'd found. Now, he told"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "himself it was just a souvenir, you"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "know, maybe a conversation piece, but"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "the truth was he was so fascinated by"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "it. You know, he'd sit in his living"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "room at night and he'd hold it and turn"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "it over in his hands and, you know, he'd"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "watch that strange swirling movement"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "inside. His wife Marie didn't like it."}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "She would tell him over and over again"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "to get rid of it, that it gave her the"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "creeps and that it was obviously far"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "from natural. But at one point, Marie"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "pointed something out that he had tried"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "not to think about. And she had told"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "him, \"If it's not natural, then someone"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "made it. Someone or something billions"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "of years ago. What was here that long"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "ago that could make something like"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "that?\" Obviously, Kobas did not have an"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "answer. In 1984, 11 years after Kobis"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "first discovered the spheres, a man"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "named Ralph Marx became the curator of"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "the Museum of Clerks. The museum had"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "acquired several dozen of the spheres,"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "and Ralph made them the centerpiece of"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "the collection. Now, by this time, Kobus"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "had retired from mining, but he often"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "visited the museum to see the spheres."}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "He'd become an expert on them and you"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "know having found more than anyone else"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "and of course he noticed things about"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "them that weren't in any of these"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "scientific reports. For instance, the"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "spheres seemed to affect electronic"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "equipment. Watches would run fast or"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "slow when near them. You know, radios"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "would pick up static. And once when"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "Kobas brought a compass near one of the"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "larger spheres, the needle didn't just"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "point toward it. It spun continuously"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "like the sphere itself was generating"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "its own magnetic field. Now, Rolf Marx"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "documented all of this, but when"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "scientists came to study the spheres,"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "they can never replicate these effects."}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "It was like the spheres only did strange"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "things when no one was officially"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "observing them. One day in 1987, Ralph"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "called Kobus with urgent news. When he"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "arrived at the museum, Ralph led him to"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "the storage room where most of the"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "spheres were kept and he pointed to one"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "of the display cases and he asked him if"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "he had noticed anything different, but"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "Kobus didn't see it. Then he counted the"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "spheres in the case. There were 15. The"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "day before there had been 14. Kobus was"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "obviously confused and asked if somebody"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "had donated one. Ralph told him no and"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "that he thought he simply miscounted."}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "And so he showed Kobus a photograph from"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "the previous week, clearly showing 14 in"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "the case. The new sphere in the case is"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "exactly identical to the other ones in"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "every way. Kobus was clearly spooked by"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "this because it entertained the idea"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "that these spheres are somehow"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "replicating. Now obviously they can't"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "reproduce, but neither of them knew what"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "was happening. It was far beyond their"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "understanding. They decided to conduct a"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "little experiment. They isolated one"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "sphere, a small one with three grooves"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "and a locked case by itself. They"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "photographed it from every angle,"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "measured it precisely, even weighed it"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "on a sensitive scale. Then they sealed"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "the case and put a camera on it to"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "record continuously. A week later, there"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "were two in the case. The camera footage"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "showed nothing. When they analyzed it by"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "frame, one frame, there was one sphere."}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "One frame over, there were two spheres."}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "like the second one had simply"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "manifested into existence over the"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "course of a single frame. They tried the"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "experiment again with different spheres."}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "I mean, sometimes nothing happened,"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "sometimes a duplicate did appear, but"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "there was really no pattern they could"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "discern. Eventually, word of this did"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "get out and scientists from all over the"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "world came to study the reproducing"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "spheres. But whenever official studies"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "were conducted, the spheres never"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "duplicated. Imagine that. It only"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "happened when no one was formally"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "observing them. In 1995, Kobus, now in"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "his late60s, received an unexpected"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "letter. It was from a professor in Costa"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "Rica who had heard about the South"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "African spheres. Now, the letter"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "included photographs of massive stone"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "spheres found in the Costa Rican jungle."}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "And the Costa Rican spheres were huge. I"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "mean, some of these were over 2 m in"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "diameter. They were made of granite, not"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "metal. And they were only about 1,400"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "years old, not 2.8 billion. But the"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "precision was the same, right? The same"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "spherical shape. And when Kobist looked"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "closely at the photographs, he could see"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "faint lines on some of them all running"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "parallel in groups of three. So just"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "like his spheres, there was obviously"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "some sort of connection, right? It's"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "very strange. Now, the professor, Dr."}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "Eduardo Menddees invited Kobus to Costa"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "Rica to try and compare the spheres."}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "Now, Kobus had never been out of South"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "Africa, but this was way too intriguing"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "to pass up. So, when he arrived in Costa"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "Rica and saw the giant spheres in"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "person, he was struck by an overwhelming"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "feeling of familiarity. They felt the"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "same as his spheres, if that even makes"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "any sense. I mean, standing next to one"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "of the large ones, he could feel that"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "same subtle vibration like there was"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "this kind of faint ringing in his ears"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "that he could hear. When he explained"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "all this to Dr. Menddees, he came up"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "with a theory. What if these aren't"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "separate phenomena? I mean, what if"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "cultures throughout history have been"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "finding these spheres, the small"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "metallic ones, and then creating these"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "larger stone monuments to mark where"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "they were found? I mean, why would"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "ancient peoples create massive stone"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "copies of small metal spheres? What's"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "the significance? What's the purpose?"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "Well, Dr. Mendes showed Kobus a map, and"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "he'd marked all the locations where"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "stone spheres had been found. And not"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "just in Costa Rica, but around the"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "world. Bosnia, India, New Zealand,"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "Easter Island, and of course, he'd"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "marked the spot where the metallic"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "spheres like kobases had been found. the"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "locations overlapped. Well, not"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "perfectly, but enough to be significant."}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "And then when he pulled out another map"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "and showed Kobus, things got pretty"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "hairy. The map showed global magnetic"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "anomalies or places where the Earth's"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "magnetic field was unusual. Now, the"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "spheres locations corresponded to many"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "of these anomalies. Now, this meant that"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "the spheres were somehow connected to"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "the Earth's magnetic field. And the only"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "thing they could possibly theorize was"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "that these stones or orbs or spheres,"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "whatever they are, were believed to be"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "markers of some kind, potentially"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "warning us about something. Dr. Mendes"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "pulled out one more document. It was a"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "seismic survey from a week earlier, and"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "it showed unusual activity deep beneath"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "the Earth's crust. He explained to Kobus"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "that it was recorded directly below"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "where the first sphere was found in"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "South Africa. Now, Kobus studied the"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "seismic data and even though he didn't"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "fully understand it, he could see the"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "patterns. There were pulses almost like"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "a heartbeat, but they were coming from"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "about a thousand miles below the"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "surface. Now, here's where it gets even"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "more wild. There are indigenous legends"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "that say that these spheres were placed"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "by the gods to keep something imprisoned"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "in the earth. If the spheres are removed"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "or destroyed, well, we know what that"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "means. Kobus returned to South Africa"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "deeply troubled. And he thought about"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "all the spheres that had been extracted"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "from the mine, hundreds of them now,"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "scattered in museums and in private"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "collections around the world. I mean, if"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "they really were some kind of"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "containment system, what had they done"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "by removing them? He went back to the"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "Museum of Clerks and found Rolf. and he"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "told him about Costa Rica, you know, all"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "the magnetic anomalies and the seismic"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "activity. Even though Ralph listened"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "carefully, he then told Kobas something"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "deeply troubling. He led Kobas to a"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "locked room in the museum's basement."}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "Inside was a single sphere larger than"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "any of the others, about the size of a"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "football. It was covered in grooves, but"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "not three or four, but dozens, and it"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "created this very intricate pattern."}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "Kobus was shocked. Rol explained to him"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "that this one was found just last year"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "at about 2,000 ft down. Apparently, the"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "miners who found it both died the very"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "next day. Heart attacks, actually, and"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "they were both perfectly healthy in"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "their 30s. There was something about"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "this one that was different. Even from"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "several feet away, he could feel some"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "sort of static electricity, but it was"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "very strong. Kind of like a like a force"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "field or something. You know how when"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "you have magnets and you know you try to"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "push them together and there's almost"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "like that that feel? That's kind of what"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "it was. It was very strange, but you"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "could definitely feel it. Ralph wanted"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "to show him something, so he turned off"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "the lights and in the darkness the"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "sphere, it almost kind of glowed. The"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "grooves on the surface seem to be moving"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "and shifting, almost forming new"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "patterns. And so over the next few"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "years, reports came in from around the"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "world. The Costa Rican spheres were"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "found to be slightly radioactive. I"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "mean, not enough to be dangerous, but"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "there was enough there that they could"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "be detected. The Bosnian spheres were"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "emitting lowfrequency sound waves that"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "could only be detected with special"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "equipment. Spheres in New Zealand were"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "affecting local wildlife. Birds wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "fly over them. Fish avoided the waters"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "near them, and the seismic activity"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "beneath all the sphere sites was"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "increasing. In 2003, Kobas, who's now"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "very elderly, gave an interview to a"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "documentary crew, and he talked about"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "finding the first sphere about the"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "strange properties they exhibited and"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "just the entire connection between these"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "strange spheres and the site. And at the"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "very end, they had asked him what he"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "thought the spheres were. And you know,"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "he went quiet for a moment and then he"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "said this verbatim. I think Earth is not"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "what we think it is. I think it's hollow"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "or at least partially hollow. And I"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "think something lives down there."}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "Something that's been down there since"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "before life existed on the surface. The"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "spheres, I think they're monitors placed"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "by something or someone to keep track of"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "what's below. Or maybe they're"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "restraints, keeping it contained. But"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "we've been removing them. Hundreds,"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "maybe thousands of them over the years"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "all around the world. Now I think we're"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "about to find out what they were"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "protecting us from. Kobis Venttor passed"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "away in 2005 at the age of 77. The"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "strange spheres in this story are known"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "famously as the Clerk's Dorp spheres and"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "today they remain on display at the"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "Museum of Clerks where they continue to"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "baffle scientists and visitors. Now"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "mainstream science tries to explain it"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "away and say that these are nothing more"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "than natural formations. You know"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "concretions formed by the natural"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "processes of mineral accumulation and"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "that even the grooves are just natural"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "weathering patterns and anything about"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "duplication or you know electromagnetic"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "effects or even the glowing is just all"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "just it's ridiculous. It's just hoaxes"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "right? It's just measurement errors. But"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "many of the miners who work in South"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "African mines tell different stories."}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "They explain that in recent years"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "they've been finding more, a lot more,"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "and not just in South Africa, actually"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "all over the world. And as a matter of"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "fact, the significance of these"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "mysterious stone spheres has been"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "recognized globally. I mean, in June of"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "2014, they were added to the UNCO's list"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "of world heritage sites, acknowledging"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "their cultural importance to not just"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "Costa Rica, but to humanity as a whole."}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "The ultimate purpose of the Clerk's Dorp"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "spheres remains a mystery. And because"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "you guys made it this far, I want you to"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "all comment below Clerk's Dorp spheres."}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "So that way I know who made it to the"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "end and who didn't. And if you guys"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "enjoy storytelling like this, where we"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "deep dive into strange cases of the"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "mysterious and supernatural, what are"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "you waiting for? Smack that like and"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "subscribe button right now for more"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "content just like this. As always, never"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "forget, I love you all. Keep an open"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "mind, and I'll see you all in the very"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "next episode."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "In today's video, I'm going to share"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "with you two disturbing reports of"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "strange phenomena happening that raises"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "the question, what's going on in our"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "national forests? You won't want to miss"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "this one. On the afternoon of June 8th,"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "2001, a man named David Mills was stuck"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "frozen in place. He couldn't move a"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "muscle. He was sweating. He was"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "breathing heavily. He had no idea what"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "was about to happen next. All he could"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "do was just stare directly in front of"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "him in complete terror because just 50"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "ft away was death looking him in the"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "eye. He knew that if he moved another"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "muscle, he was done for. David felt that"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "if he just calmed down for a second and"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "formulated a plan in his head, he would"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "be okay. But as he formulated an escape"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "plan, he heard a noise behind him, and"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "that's when he lost all hope. David"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "Mills was in the wilderness of"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "Indianola, which is just about 13 mi"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "northwest of downtown Seattle across the"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "Puet Sound. David worked as a forestry"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "manager for the Sukuamish tribe and was"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "doing a very routine check on many of"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "the young trees in the area. Now, this"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "process is fairly straightforward. A"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "ranger will navigate to a starting point"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "with the use of a map or GPS. And once"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "he gets to the first point, which is"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "known as the sampling point, he'll put a"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "boundary up of some kind, you know, with"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "measuring tape. And sometimes he'll"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "gather data or even take measurements."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "It's just a routine check aimed to"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "prevent major things like disease"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "outbreak or invasive species. Often"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "times, it's very common for a ranger to"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "spend about 3 or 4 hours on the field"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "doing this kind of work. if not longer."}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "David had just finished taking the last"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "measurement at the sample plot he was at"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "and had just fully stood up, turned, and"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "walked in the direction of the next one."}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "Because this was a June day in the"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "Pacific Northwest, it can get pretty"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "muggy in certain spots, just depending"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "on how much vegetation there is. And"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "where David was, it was fairly dense,"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "which meant that he was taking his time."}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "You know, he's sweating. And as he's"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "going about these different sample"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "plots, he keeps hearing this strange"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "noise that he just can't identify. So"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "finally he comes to the next plot and he"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "starts to take some notes and he hears"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "that same noise again, but this time"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "it's much closer. In fact, it sounded"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "like it was just off to his left, maybe"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "30 feet away. He completely stopped and"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "he turned his head to look because he"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "was sure that he could pinpoint the"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "source of where the sound was coming"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "from. But when he turned, he didn't see"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "a bird or an animal. He didn't see"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "anything that could have possibly made"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "the noise. And so, you know, he kind of"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "panics a little bit because what if"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "somebody is out here with nefarious"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "purposes and they're going to hurt him?"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "Before he could fully process that"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "entire thought, before he could decide"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "whether he should just leave or keep"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "working, he felt the hair on the back of"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "his neck stand up. You know that feeling"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "where your body knows something's wrong"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "before your brain does? That's what was"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "happening to David. And so, very slowly,"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "he turned his head back to where he'd"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "been looking. And about 30 feet off to"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "his left, walking through the trees in"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "the opposite direction, was the largest"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "bear David had ever seen in his entire"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "life. But there was something horribly"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "wrong with this bear. David, who was"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "completely aruck by this sighting, went"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "against what anyone should do. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "you see a massive bear in the woods, you"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "go the other direction. That's pretty"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "much bear safety 101. But David did not"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "do that. For David, even though his"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "reaction didn't make sense, his brain"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "kind of just shortcircuited. And because"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "this bear was way bigger than any black"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "bear should be, he realized he needed to"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "get a closer look and truly see what was"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "wrong with it. instead of leaving,"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "instead of getting back in his truck and"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "driving home and, you know, maybe"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "calling fish and wildlife to report a"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "potentially sick bear, he decided to"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "follow it. And so he dropped into a"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "crouch and he began moving as quietly as"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "he could through the underbrush. He was"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "trying to keep this thing in his line of"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "sight, but whatever he was following was"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "faster than he was. A lot faster. As"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "David's moving through the forest just"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "trying to keep up, he started hearing"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "these noises that made the hair on his"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "arm stand up. Firstly, there was this"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "screeching sound, but it wasn't like a"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "bird. It wasn't like any animal he'd"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "heard before. It was very high-pitched"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "and just strange. Then, he heard this"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "pounding. It was kind of like somebody"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "taking a massive rock and just slamming"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "it against a tree as hard as they could."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "It was like a boom boom boom. And"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "David's crouched down behind this big"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "cedar tree and he's listening to these"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "sounds. And part of his brain, at least"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "the rational part, is just screaming at"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "him. David, what are you doing? You need"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "to leave right now. Whatever is making"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "those sounds, you do not want to meet"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "it. Turn around and go back to your"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "truck. But he didn't turn around. He"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "just kept moving forward because he just"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "had to see this bear. He had to know"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "what was wrong with it. And that's when"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "he made his mistake. the mistake that"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "nearly got him killed. As he crept"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "closer and around another tree, just"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "trying to get a better view of this"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "bear, maybe 50 feet in front of him"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "standing in a small clearing was a bear"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "cub. Now, if you know anything about"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "bears, and David definitely knew about"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "bears, you know that if you see a cub,"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "the mother is close and very close."}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "Mother bears are incredibly protective."}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "I mean, if she thinks you're a threat to"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "her cub, she will kill you with no"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "hesitation. David was completely frozen."}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "He wasn't even breathing because he knew"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "that if this cub turned around and saw"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "him, I mean, if it made any sort of"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "noise, if it alerted its mother, he was"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "done for. There was no outrunning this"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "bear. Not from this distance. The cub"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "was just kind of nosing around in the"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "dirt, oblivious to David's presence. And"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "then David heard it behind him. this"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "kind of low rumbling growl that kind of"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "vibrated in his chest and he's just"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "sitting there thinking, \"Oh crap, no,"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "no, no, no, no, no.\" And before he could"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "even turn around, before he could even"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "see the mother bear, she charged. David"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "heard her coming, this explosion of"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "movement through the underbrush, and he"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "knew with absolute certainty that this"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "was it. This was how he was going to"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "die. Killed by a bear because he'd been"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "too curious and stupid to just walk"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "away. The mother bear came crashing"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "through the trees and David could hear"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "her breathing. He could hear the sound"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "of her paws just smacking the ground"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "hard as she charged. And he closed his"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "eyes because he just didn't want to see"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "it coming. But then something very"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "strange happened. The bear didn't hit"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "him. David was still standing there"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "bracing for impact and the bear passed"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "him. She ran right past David so close"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "that he could feel the air move and she"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "crashed into the stand of trees behind"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "him. Immediately there was this eruption"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "of sound roaring and screeching and"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "branches breaking. It was evident that"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "there were two animals back there"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "fighting. Fighting very violently. David"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "didn't stop to figure out what was"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "happening. He just turned and ran as"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "fast as his legs would carry him."}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "Branches were smacking him in the face."}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "His boots were slipping on the wet"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "leaves and he wasn't caring about"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "anything except getting back to his"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "truck. He makes it to the very bottom."}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "He runs up to his truck, unlocks it,"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "flies in, speeds down the road, and once"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "he made it to the entrance, he was very"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "hesitant about getting out and locking"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "up the gate because he knew this very"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "large bear and the mama bear were still"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "close by, and he didn't want to take any"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "chances. But he couldn't just leave it"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "unlocked. So, he sighed. He jumped out"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "of his truck and as quickly as he could,"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "he locked up the gate and he was gone."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "He realized that he had just walked into"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "the middle of a fight. That was the only"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "explanation that made sense and he kind"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "of repeated it out loud until he half"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "believed it. Just hours after David's"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "experience, he reported it to the"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "Suamish Police Department. And when he"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "did, several of the officers, they"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "didn't laugh at him or tell him he was"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "crazy. They believed him, especially"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "because they knew he was a very credible"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "person. And that's because several of"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "the officers of the Squamish Police"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "Department, or at least many of them,"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "have all seen this bear. Some of them"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "had even responded to calls. They were"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "pretty much at the point where they were"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "aware of it, but they weren't really"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "sure there was anything that could be"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "done because it didn't exactly pose a"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "threat. Several weeks before this"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "experience, a co-orker who had gone to"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "that same area had noticed some signs in"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "the forest that looked off. The first"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "thing that they noticed was nearby, high"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "up in a tree, were these strange gouge"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "marks. From where the coworker was"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "standing, they couldn't really make out"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "if they were bare or not, or if it was"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "even claw marks at all. More interesting"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "than that, though, was that all around"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "the base of the tree, there were these"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "prints in the ground. These were by far"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "the strangest bearprints he'd ever seen"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "in his life. Several days after David"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "Mills experience, an investigator by the"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "name of Patrick Julian had caught wind"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "of David's story through connections"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "with the police department. And at the"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "time, he was very fascinated by David's"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "story because he lived not too far away"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "in Port Orchard. In and around this"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "area, there were reports of bear"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "sightings, and he figured he might be"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "dealing with potentially the largest"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "black bear he's ever seen, which again,"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "black bear are common in the Pacific"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "Northwest. Patrick drove all the way to"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "the same location in Indian where David"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "had seen this large bear. And he goes"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "out to the same patch of woods where the"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "cub and the mother bear were. And he"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "finds something really fascinating. He"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "finds a print. And there's not much of"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "one. It's enough that Patrick can easily"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "tell it is the largest bear he's ever"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "seen in his life, and it is stepped"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "right here in the mud. Shortly after"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "these events, Patrick would drive to"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "other areas nearby where he'd find very"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "similar bear tracks. This meant that"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "there were multiple of these very large,"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "hideous, deformed bears that could be"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "potentially carrying a disease of some"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "kind. Eatenville and the Lower Ho Indian"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "Reservation, which sits on the Olympic"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "Peninsula, and Gig Harbor, all had"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "multiple witnesses of these bears in the"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "woods. But the scariest detail of all is"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "that there were multiple witnesses who"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "had reported these terrifying whales and"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "howls coming from around Long Lake. I'm"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "not talking about a wolf or anything"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "like that. This sounded completely"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "different. And in fact, people couldn't"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "really accurately describe what wildlife"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "it did sound like because it was just so"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "abnormal. Now, this was not David's only"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "sighting either. In 1995, David was"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "working in the Olympics for the National"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "Forest Service. One day, just like"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "before, he was out surveying a certain"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "section of the forest right near a large"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "creek. And he actually wasn't alone."}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "With him was a co-orker who was tasked"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "with the same area. And so they were"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "going to work together and try to get as"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "many measurements as they could. Both"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "men began at one spot and after some"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "time after they had marked certain trees"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "and taken the necessary data, they began"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "to move towards the next grouping of"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "trees which was closer to the river. And"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "in fact, from this location, it would"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "grant them a full view of the river and"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "they would be able to see what's coming"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "and going from all around them. Once"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "they made it to these trees, they could"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "see the river clearly, and they were"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "shocked by what they saw. It was the"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "same ugly bear, but because it was a"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "little further away, he wasn't able to"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "see it as well. But he knew for a fact"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "now that this was all connected. There"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "was still one more epiphany David had."}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "On the very night of his experience, a"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "good friend of Davids had given him a"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "cassette tape that had been used to"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "capture some of the strange howling"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "noises made from animals that normal"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "people could not identify. This"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "particular cassette tape contained"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "multiple recordings around the Lumi"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "Indian Reservation, which sits right"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "near Bellingham. This friend was"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "convinced that whatever David had seen"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "that day in the forest around the area,"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "that cassette tape might hold some"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "answers. When David got home later that"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "evening after cleaning up a bit and"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "relaxing, he finally sat down, put the"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "cassette tape in, and pressed play."}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "David sat there listening for quite some"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "time as, you know, he played through"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "several different recordings. He was"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "completely speechless. He didn't really"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "have any words because none of what he"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "was hearing made any sense to him at"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "all. The sounds he heard coming from"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "this cassette tape matched the noises he"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "had heard earlier that day exactly. And"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "it was clear that whatever sounds were"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "captured over the course of these"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "various recordings all had to have come"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "from the same animal. His heart started"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "racing. You know, he felt anxiety"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "welting up and he was very bothered by"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "the fact that he now had his answer. On"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "the cassette tape David was listening"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "to, there were words written in faded"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "marker and it simply said Sasquatch"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "recordings. David Mills, his coworker,"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "several officers at the police"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "department, Patrick Julian, and all"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "those who had reported sightings had not"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "seen a disfigured bear. Judging by all"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "the physical descriptions given by"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "various witnesses, including David"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "himself, it's something more disturbing."}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "David described an animal that was"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "walking on two legs and what he saw was"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "easily 9 ft tall but had a very black"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "shiny coat just like that of a very"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "large black bear. This very animal is"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "exactly what he saw back in 1995 with a"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "co-orker. Even the footprints themselves"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "were not of a bear, but of a very large"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "human-like track that was around 17 in"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "in length. Hundreds of people have"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "reported sightings of something in the"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "Pacific Northwest over the years. And of"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "course, most people dismiss these"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "stories as hoaxes or misidentifications."}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "But David Mills wasn't a random person"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "making up a story for attention. He was"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "a trained forestry manager who'd spent"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "his career in the wilderness. And"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "multiple police officers in the area"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "have all reported seeing the same thing"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "David saw. It is believed that what"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "David Mills encountered that day was a"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "Sasquatch. On the morning of February"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "28th, 1999, two investigators pulled up"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "to a logging camp about 12 miles from"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "Mount St. Helens in Washington State."}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "The investigators, both volunteers with"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "Muon, which is the Mutual UFO Network,"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "had driven out from Seattle after"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "receiving what they thought was probably"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "going to be another bogus report. I"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "mean, they get a lot of bogus reports."}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "You know, someone sees lights in the"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "sky, turns out it's a plane. Someone"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "sees a discshaped object, turns out it's"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "like a hubcap somebody threw. Many UFO"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "sightings have pretty mundane"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "explanations. So, when these two"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "investigators showed up at this logging"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "camp, they weren't really expecting"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "much. But when they walked into the"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "foreman's office and saw 14 men sitting"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "there, 14 grown men who all looked like"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "they'd seen a ghost, the investigators"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "realized pretty quickly that something"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "had happened, something these men could"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "not explain. The foreman, a man named"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "Rick, pulled the investigators aside and"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "was like, \"Look, I don't know what these"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "guys saw, but I've been working with"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "them for many years. They're not"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "pranksters. They don't want attention."}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "They're all telling the exact same"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "story.\" The investigators sat down and"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "began interviewing the workers. And all"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "14 of these men were Spanisheaking. You"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "know, they'd come up from California for"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "this replanting job. So, they all had to"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "use an interpreter, which actually"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "worked in their favor because it meant"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "the workers couldn't hear each other's"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "interviews. They couldn't coordinate"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "stories. And yet, every single one when"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "interviewed separately through an"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "interpreter told the exact same story"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "down to the most minute details. To"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "understand the events, we need to go"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "back in time 3 days. On February 25th,"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "1999, it started out as a completely"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "normal day for Francisco and his crew."}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "They'd been out at this clear-cut site"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "since early morning, and by noon,"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "Francisco had probably planted 50 or"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "even 60 saplings. The work was"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "repetitive. You know, dig a hole, place"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "the sapling, pack the dirt around, move"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "on to the next spot over and over and"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "over. But Francisco didn't mind. There"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "was just something very meditative about"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "it. And besides, I mean, the weather was"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "really nice. It was cool, but the sun"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "was out and there wasn't really any"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "wind. So, as far as a February day in"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "Washington goes, it was great. Around"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "noon, Francisco finished planting"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "another sapling and, you know, stood up"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "to stretch his back and he noticed the"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "elk. Now, seeing elk near Mount St."}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "Helens wasn't exactly strange because"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "the entire area while a lot of"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "Washington is not only full of wildlife"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "but there are many herds of elk and the"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "herd was very large. I mean like 30 or"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "40 elk and you know they were grazing on"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "the hillside maybe 200 yards away."}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "Francisco who'd grown up in Southern"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "California had never seen elk before"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "moving up to Washington. So he always"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "got really excited anytime he saw them."}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "And you know, he watched them for a"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "minute and then he called over to his"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "coworker Augustine and he's like, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "check it out.\" And you know, Augustine"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "stood up and he looked over at the herd"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "and kind of smiled and nodded. And then"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "both men went back to work. But about 10"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "minutes later, Francisco happened to"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "glance up at the elk again. And he"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "noticed something out of place. All the"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "elk, every single one had stopped"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "grazing. And they were all staring in"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "the same direction, staring up at the"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "sky. And they weren't moving either."}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "They were kind of just frozen there"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "looking at the same spot. Now, Francisco"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "thought that was kind of strange because"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "elk don't really do that. I mean, if"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "they get spooked by something, they"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "don't run. They kind of just stand"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "there. So, you know, Francisco stood up"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "again and he looked in the direction the"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "elk were looking. And at first, he"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "didn't see anything. I mean, there was"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "just sky. There was trees. You know, you"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "could see some mountains in the"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "background. But something caught his"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "eye. There was movement at the top of"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "the tree line and coming out of the"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "trees was this thing. Now, initially"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "Francisco was like, \"Ah, a weather"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "balloon. That makes sense.\" Like maybe"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "there was a weather balloon that had"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "gotten loose and was kind of just"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "drifting over the area and it because it"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "was kind of gray, you know, metallic"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "looking and it was floating maybe 20 ft"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "off the ground, it made sense to"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "Francisco. But then he noticed that the"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "more he focused on it, it just wasn't"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "adding up. The elk weren't just watching"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "it. They were backing away slowly from"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "it. All of them in unison, and they were"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "taking very careful steps backwards."}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "They weren't panicking or running, but"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "they were very unsettled. The only thing"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "Francisco could think is that why would"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "Elk be scared of a weather balloon? And"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "so he calls over to Augustine again, and"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "this time his voice had more of an edge"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "to it. And he's like, \"Augustine, hey,"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "you need to see this.\" Obviously, he"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "said this in Spanish. And so Augustine"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "stood up, walked over to where Francisco"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "was standing. When he saw what Francisco"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "was looking at, he didn't say anything."}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "He kind of just stood there watching."}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "And by now, some of the other workers"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "around them had noticed that and also"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "stopped working and were staring at"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "something. And one by one, they began"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "coming over until all 14 had stopped"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "what they were doing and just stood"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "there watching the strange object drift"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "out of the trees into the clearing. Then"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "the object did something that spooked"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "Francisco. It suddenly changed"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "direction. Now the object had actually"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "been drifting slowly east, kind of"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "following the tree line, but then it"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "just stopped, like completely stopped"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "midair, and then it rotated. And"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "Francisco could see it rotating like it"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "was scanning the area looking for"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "something. And that's when the elk"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "panicked. The herd, which had been"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "slowly backing away, suddenly broke into"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "a full run. All of them except one. One"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "female elk who'd been on the northern"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "edge of the herd took off running in the"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "opposite direction, running north up the"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "slope away from the rest of the herd."}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "The object, whatever it was, immediately"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "began following her. At first, it was"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "moving pretty slowly and the elk was"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "clearly faster. She was running full"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "speed up the hillside and the object was"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "just kind of drifting along behind her,"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "you know, maybe 30 or 40 yards back. And"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "so after seeing this, Francisco's"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "convinced that this is a military drone,"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "like it has to be something explainable."}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "But then the object accelerated in the"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "span of 2 seconds and it actually closed"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "the distance between itself and the elk"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "and just whoosh. And suddenly it was"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "right above this elk, directly above"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "her, maybe 10 or so feet off the ground."}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "And all 14 men are watching this, right?"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "They're not moving. They're not talking."}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "They're just shocked because what"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "they're seeing is not making any sense."}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "It didn't fit into any framework their"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "brains had for understanding the world."}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "Then the elk's front legs came off the"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "ground. Francisco saw it happen. The elk"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "was still running. Her legs were still"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "pumping, but her hooves weren't touching"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "the ground anymore. She was a foot off"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "the ground. And then two, and then"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "three, and she wasn't struggling. That"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "was actually the thing that Francisco"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "would later say bothered him the most."}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "The elk just went limp like she'd"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "accepted what was happening. Her legs"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "stopped moving, her body went slack, and"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "she kind of just hung there in the air,"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "rotating slowly beneath this object."}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "Behind Francisco, one of the workers"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "named Carlos just fell to his knees and"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "started praying. Another began backing"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "away slowly, just mumbling to himself in"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "complete fear over and over in Spanish."}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "Somebody else started shouting, asking"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "what they should do. Should they do"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "something? Should they try to help? But"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "there's nothing they could do. They were"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "200 yd away. And even if they weren't,"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "what were they going to do? Throw rocks?"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "The object with the elk suspended"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "beneath it started moving north. And as"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "it moved, it, you know, hit tree"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "branches. And Francisco could hear the"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "crack of wood breaking. Even from that"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "distance, the object was clearly"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "struggling with the weight of this elk."}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "It was wobbling and, you know, dipping"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "down and pulling back up almost like"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "whatever was controlling it was having"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "trouble. And then it executed this very"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "strange almost mechanical turn to the"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "left. And then it began climbing and"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "climbing at a steep angle almost 45\u00b0."}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "And as it climbed, the elk, which had"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "been visible beneath it, wasn't visible"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "anymore. Francisco doesn't know if the"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "elk got pulled up into the object or if"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "it just got obscured by the angle, but"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "but one second he could see the elk and"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "the next he couldn't. Within about 10 or"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "so seconds, the object vanished into the"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "clouds and all 14 men kind of just stood"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "there completely shocked, not sure what"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "to say, not sure what to do. You know,"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "they didn't really know what had just"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "happened, but they stood there for a few"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "moments waiting for this object to"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "reappear or, you know, maybe the elk to"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "fall out of the sky or something, but"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "nothing happened. The remaining elk"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "herd, which had run east up the slope,"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "was now huddled together in a tight"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "group, maybe 400 yd away, and they"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "looked terrified. Francisco had never"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "seen elk behave that way. They were"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "packed so tightly together, they almost"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "look like one big mass of brown fur."}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "Augustine turned to Francisco and said"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "in Spanish, \"Did you see that?\" Of"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "course, Francisco nodded. He didn't even"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "know what to say. And Miguel, another"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "worker, was like, \"You know, what do we"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "do? What do you do? Do you call the"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "police? Do you call the Forest Service?"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "I mean, what do you say? I just saw a"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "UFO abduct an elk? I mean, who's going"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "to believe you?\" But remember, they were"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "also on the clock. They had a job to do,"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "and the foreman was going to come by at"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "the end of the day to check their"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "progress. So, they just kind of had to"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "go back to work and keep planting trees"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "like nothing happened. Over the next"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "several hours, all 14 men did go back to"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "work. They didn't talk about what they'd"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "seen. They didn't look at each other."}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "They kind of just kept to themselves and"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "just kept working. But every few"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "minutes, Francisco would continually"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "glance up at the sky, expecting to see"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "the elk or the object come back, but he"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "never did. Now, at the end of the day,"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "when Rick, the foreman, showed up to"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "drive them back to camp, the workers"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "were all sitting on the tailgate of the"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "truck waiting. And immediately, Rick"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "could tell that something was wrong"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "because these guys were normally very"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "chatty. You know, they would joke around"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "with each other. But today, there was"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "just this energy about them. They were"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "dead silent. They had this look on their"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "faces that they were really bothered by"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "something. And so, Rick is like, \"What's"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "wrong? Like, you are you guys okay?\""}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "And, you know, for a while, nobody"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "really said anything. Finally, Augustine"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "just said, \"Rick, something happened.\""}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "And very slowly, all the workers"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "explained what they had witnessed"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "earlier that day. And even though Rick"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "listened, at first he thought they were"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "messing with him, but the more they"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "talked and you he can see the genuine"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "expression of concern and confusion and"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "fear on their faces. He realized that"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "these guys were very serious and they"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "were obviously shaken by something they"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "had saw. Not really knowing what to do,"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "he just decided to report it to his"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "supervisor. And his supervisor reported"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "it to the Forest Service. And the Forest"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "Service contacted Muon. And that's how 3"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "days later, two investigators ended up"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "at the logging camp interviewing 14"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "terrified forestry workers. The"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "investigators spent two full days"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "interviewing each worker. And what made"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "their testimony so compelling wasn't"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "just that all 14 told the same story. It"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "was the details. They all describe the"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "object the same way. Metallic discshaped"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "about 7 to 8 ft across. The same"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "wobbling motion when it tried to lift"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "the elk. They all described hearing the"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "tree branches break at the same time and"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "the elk going limp. These were not"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "coached statements. These were men who"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "had all witnessed something together and"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "were still trying to process it. The"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "investigators also interviewed the"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "foreman, Rick, who confirmed that all 14"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "had been visibly shaken when he picked"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "them up that day. And even Rick told the"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "investigators, you know, I've worked"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "with these guys for years. They're not"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "the type to make up stories. You know,"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "they don't want attention. They just"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "want to work and get paid and go home."}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "So, if they saw something, I believe"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "them. The investigators did go out to"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "the site where the incident occurred and"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "they found some interesting evidence. Up"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "on the hillside where the elk herd had"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "been grazing, there were tracks"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "everywhere, elk tracks. And in one area"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "where the lone female elk had been"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "running, the tracks just stopped. Like"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "she'd been running and then suddenly she"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "was not touching the ground anymore. And"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "so they took photos, they took"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "measurements, they documented everything"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "they needed to document. and then they"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "filed the report with Muon. This"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "incident appeared in the Muon Journal in"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "May of 1999. The report noted that all"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "14 witnesses, despite being interviewed"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "separately and through interpreters, all"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "told identical stories. They never"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "wavered. They never changed their"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "accounts. And multiple people have"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "reported seeing strange objects not just"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "in Washington State, but specifically"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "near Mount St. Helens over the years."}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "And you know, there have been other"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "reports of animals being abducted, but"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "what makes this case different is the"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "number of witnesses. People who had"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "nothing to gain by making this up."}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "People who were so shaken by what they'd"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "seen that even years later, they refused"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "to talk about it publicly. Was it a"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "military drone conducting an experiment?"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "Or was it something else? I don't know."}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "But I do know this. That day on February"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "25th, 1999, 14 men watched an elk get"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "pulled into the sky. And whatever took"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "that elk, it's still out there, folks."}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "It remains a mystery. But you know"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "what's not a mystery? Why you guys stuck"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "around to the end of the video. And"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "because you guys did, I want you to all"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "comment below strange woods. So that way"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "I know who made it to the end and who"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "didn't. And if you guys enjoy this kind"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "of content where we deep dive into"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "strange cases of the mysterious and"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "supernatural in a cinematic storytelling"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "fashion, what are you waiting for? Smack"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "that like and subscribe button right now"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "for more content by yours truly. As"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "always, I love you all. Keep an open"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "mind and I'll see you all in the very"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "next episode."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "the morning of July 1st 2010 started"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "like any other climb on Mount rineer"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "three friends Eric Lewis Dawn and Trevor"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "were making their way up jalter Ledges"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "but when they reached 13,900 ft"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "something impossible happened so began"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "one of Mount rainer's strangest"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "Mysteries you won't want to miss this"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "one"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "on the morning of July 1st 2010 Eric"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "Lewis stood at the base of Mount rineer"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "adjusting his climbing harness while his"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "two companions Dawn storm Jr and Trevor"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "Lane double checked their gear the three"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "men had climbed together before but this"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "Ascent of jalter Ledges felt different"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "the weather forecast had called for"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "Clear conditions but a thin veil of"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "clouds had begun creeping across the"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "summit dolling the normally crisp"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "morning light Eric was the most"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "experienced of the three having summited"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "Rainer eight times and at 57 he moved"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "with deliberate Precision of someone who"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "understood the Mountain's various moods"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "he watched Dawn as he coiled their"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "climbing rope methodically checking each"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "section before feeding it through their"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "harnesses Trevor meanwhile was studying"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "the route through binoculars tracking"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "the path they would take up the"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "Mountain's face the men had spent the"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "previous night at Camp Mir the High"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "Altitude base camp perched at 10,200 ft"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "they played cards shared climbing"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "stories and tried to get some rest"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "despite the excitement of the upcoming"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "climb now as they prepared to push for"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "the summit the temperature hovered just"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "below freezing perfect for conditions"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "for the ice to hold firm Dawn turned to"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "his friends and asked if they were ready"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "while clicking his Carabiner into place"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "on the Rope Trevor nodded doing the same"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "and Eric took one final look at his gear"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "before clipping in himself the three men"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "would be connected this way for the"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "entire climb their lives quite literally"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "in each other's hands they began moving"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "upward Dawn in the lead Trevor in the"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "middle and Eric bringing up the rear the"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "first few hours passed uneventfully as"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "they made their way higher stopping only"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "occasionally to hydrate and check their"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "position but they maintain a good pace"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "and by midm morning they had reached"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "13,000 ft the thin air made every"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "movement more demanding and wind had"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "picked up considerably clouds were now"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "swirling around them sometimes reducing"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "visibility to less than 50 ft Dawn"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "called for a quick break and the three"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "men huddled together on a small ledge"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "sharing a thermos of hot coffee Eric"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "commented how the weather's turning and"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "his eyes scann the clouds above them but"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "his voice carried no concern and this"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "was normal for rineer and they were well"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "equipped to handle it now the wind grew"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "stronger as they pushed past"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "13,500 ft Dawn would later tell Rangers"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "that the gusts were so powerful they had"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "to stop every few minutes to maintain"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "their balance they could occasionally"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "Glimpse the summit through breaks in the"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "clouds tantalizingly close at"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "14,411 FT the three men communicated"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "through practiced hand signals which"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "With the Wind making verbal"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "communication nearly impossible possible"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "was really the only way Dawn LED them"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "carefully along jalter Ledges the route"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "living up to its reputation as to their"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "right the mountain fell dramatically"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "into the Nali Glacier thousands of feet"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "below the Rope between them stayed taut"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "as they moved in unison each man"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "checking his footing before advancing"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "and at 13,900 ft Dawn stopped to assess"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "their position Trevor moved up to join"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "him and they waited for Eric to do the"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "same the wind whipped snow around them"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "in white sheets but they could make out"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "Eric's figure about 40 ft below through"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "the MC da signaled for Eric to join them"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "they waited the figure below seemed to"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "pause and so Dawn tugged gently on the"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "Rope their standard signal to confirm"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "all was well but instead of the expected"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "resistance the Rope came up far too"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "easily Trevor and Dawn exchanged"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "confused looks as they pulled in the"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "slack when they reached the end they"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "found only a coiled section with a"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "butterfly knot Eric was gone the two men"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "began searching the slope below them"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "fighting against the wind and"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "deteriorating visibility they called out"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "for Eric their voices swallowed by the"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "howling wind Dawn would later explain to"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "the Rangers that they had seen Eric on"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "the Rope just moments before there was"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "no way he could have vanished in the few"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "seconds they'd looked away after"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "thoroughly searching the immediate area"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "they pushed up to The Summit Ridge"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "thinking perhaps Eric had somehow worked"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "around them in the white out conditions"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "but the ridge was empty with daylight"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "ating and the weather worsening they had"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "no choice but to descend to camp miror"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "and alert the Rangers by Nightfall"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "climbing Ranger Tom pay and two mountain"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "guides were already making their way up"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "jalter Ledges their headlamps cutting"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "through the darkness as they searched"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "for any sign of Eric the wind had died"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "but the temperature had plummeted below"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "freezing back at Camp Mir Don and Trevor"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "huddled in the ranger station reviewing"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "the details of Eric's disappearance with"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "Park officials the following morning the"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "full scale of the search operation"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "became clear more than 40 people"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "converged on the Mountain National Park"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "Service climbing Rangers professional"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "guides from Rainer mountaineering Inc"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "and volunteers from Olympic Mountain"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "Rescue they all began systematic sweeps"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "of the area the first discovery came"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "around noon at"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "13,600 FT Searchers found Eric's"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "backpack climbing harness and a snow"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "shovel carefully placed inside a small"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "snow cave at a around 13,800 ft the cave"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "was perfectly formed clearly built by"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "someone who knew what they were doing"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "but it made no sense Eric was an"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "experienced climber he would have never"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "separated himself from his harness in"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "such dangerous conditions even more"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "puzzling was what they didn't find no"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "sleeping bag no tent no food and perhaps"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "most concerning no down jacket to"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "protect against the brutal Mountain"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "temperatures the search teams"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "meticulously comb the snow cover the"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "slopes expecting to find s leading away"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "from the cave but there were none the"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "only footprints in the area were those"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "leading up to the cave following Dawn"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "and Trevor's path it was as if Eric had"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "entered the snow cave and simply"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "vanished now as day turned to evening"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "Incident Commander Glenn Kesler gathered"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "the search teams he explained that they"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "had to weigh the risk to Searchers"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "against the likelihood of finding Eric"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "alive the terrain was treacherous deep"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "crevasses hidden beneath the snow"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "unstable ice formations and the constant"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "threat of avalanches after 3 days of"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "intensive searching they would have to"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "scale back the operation the Rangers"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "interviewed Dawn and Trevor multiple"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "times but their story never changed they"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "had seen Eric on the Rope but found only"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "the coiled section with the butterfly"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "knot they had searched below above and"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "all around but fell no trace of their"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "friend except for his gear in that snow"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "cave interestingly Rangers continued"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "their routine patrols of Mount rineer"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "always keeping an eye out for any sign"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "of him the snow cave became a focal"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "point of the investigation expert"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "Mountaineers who examined it said the"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "construction showed the work of someone"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "thinking clearly and deliberately the"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "careful arrangement of gearan side"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "suggested planning rather than panic but"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "this only deep in the mystery why would"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "an experienced climber build a snow cave"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "stalk it with his survival gear and then"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "walk away in extreme conditions without"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "any equipment is it possible he suffered"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "from altitude sickness or hypothermia"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "despite all evidence not supporting this"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "there's another theory that suggests"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "Eric staged his own disappearance but he"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "left behind a successful career a close"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "family and substantial savings there was"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "no motive for him to vanish I think one"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "of the most haunting details about this"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "case is the butterfly knot because it"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "wasn't the kind of knot that could form"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "by accident someone had to tie it"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "deliberately the Rope showed no signs of"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "stress or damage Eric had somehow untied"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "himself from the rope tied the butterfly"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "knot and vanished without a race 14"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "years later Eric Lewis's disappearance"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "remains one of Mount rainer's most"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "baffling"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "mysteries on the afternoon of July 23rd"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "2018 a 26-year-old named Dawn was hiking"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "deep into the Wilderness near Mount"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "rineer in Washington state looking for"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "the perfect spot to set up camp Dawn"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "wasn't at any official Campground she"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "was way out in the back country where"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "experienced hik ERS rarely ventured in"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "fact as Dawn surveyed the forest around"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "her she figured the nearest person was"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "probably 10 or 15 miles away at of"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "minimum she had been planning this trip"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "for a while growing up exploring the"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "Pacific Northwest she knew exactly what"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "she was doing she had all the right gear"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "and plenty of supplies and had left"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "detailed maps of her intended route with"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "her family back at home and by late"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "afternoon da had found an ideal clearing"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "about 6 Mi off the nearest Trail she set"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "up her tent gather GED firewood and"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "spent the rest of the daylight hours"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "just enjoying the Solitude of being"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "completely alone that night after"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "cooking dinner over her campfire and"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "watching the Stars Dawn crawled into her"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "tent around 1: p.m. and quickly fell"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "asleep but at some point in the night"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "Dawn suddenly woke up she wasn't sure"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "what had roused her maybe a sound just"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "that sick sense that people sometimes"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "get when something isn't quite right but"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "as she lay there in her sleeping bag now"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "Wide Awake she began hearing what"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "sounded like very faint movement right"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "outside her tent initially she tried to"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "tell herself it was probably just a deer"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "or some other animal investigating her"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "campsite it wasn't unusual for wildlife"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "to wander through at night but something"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "about these sounds seemed different they"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "seemed very deliberate she reached for"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "her flashlight and slowly unzipped her"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "tent flap after taking a deep breath"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "there sitting perfectly still just a few"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "feet from her tent was a man he was"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "positioned right where Dawn's camp fire"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "had been earlier though the Flames had"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "long since died down to Embers the man"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "appeared in his mid-30s wearing regular"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "clothing jeans and a dark jacket he"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "didn't have any camping gear backpack or"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "equipment just a man sitting alone in"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "the wilderness in the middle of the"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "night when the man noticed Dawn looking"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "at him his eyes widened like he was"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "somehow shocked to see Dawn there even"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "though he was sitting outside her tent"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "and then without saying a word the man"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "jumped up and sprinted into the darkness"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "disappearing into the trees in seconds"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "Dawn was thoroughly spooked she had no"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "idea who this mysterious man was or his"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "intentions for the next few hours she"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "strain to hear any sounds of this man"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "returning eventually after convincing"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "herself that the man was gone Dawn"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "zipped the tent back up and spent the"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "rest of the night Wide Awake clutching"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "her hunting knife Don thought about how"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "unsafe it would be to continue to camp"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "out in that spot and decided to move Don"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "hiked to a new location several miles"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "away and luckily for her put the"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "incident far out of her mind the next"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "couple of days would go by without any"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "issues 2 Days Later Don and hiked about"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "15 miles from her original campsite"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "taking such a random winding path to the"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "Wilderness that even she would have had"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "trouble retracing her exact route Dawn"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "had picked another remote spot to camp"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "and as night fell she sat beside her"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "fire eating some soup for dinner that's"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "when she started hearing noises in the"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "darkness Beyond her fire it was these"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "subtle sounds that might have been"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "nothing but they sounded ominous Don did"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "her best to ignore and convinced herself"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "it was probably just a deer moments"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "later she called out and asked if anyone"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "was there immediately everything fell"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "silent around her and for those brief"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "few seconds Don was convinced she was"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "going to be murdered until a voice broke"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "out from the darkness and asked her the"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "strangest question do you know how to"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "get to B's Canyon the question made no"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "sense she never even heard of Bill's"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "Canyon and she was pretty no such place"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "existed in this part of Washington still"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "not wanting to agitate whoever was out"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "there called back that no she didn't"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "know where that was and then silence"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "Dawn became increasingly tense having no"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "idea what was about to happen The Voice"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "spoke again and asked her if she was"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "alone strangely the voice was from a"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "slightly different direction than before"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "then Don realized what was happening"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "this person was moving around the"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "campsite perimeter staying just outside"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "the light of the Fire Dawn gripped her"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "flashlight like a weapon and was"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "prepared to kill if she had to Don spoke"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "and said no her friends are coming back"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "any minute they just went to get"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "firewood and from this point the voice"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "continued to poke and prod with bizarre"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "random questions things about the area"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "hiking gear or whether Dawn had seen any"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "other campers recently every time this"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "person asked Don questions they would be"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "inching closer and closer Don could feel"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "herself starting to to panic but she"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "tried to stay calm and keep this strange"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "person talking while she figured out"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "what to do when the voice sounded like"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "it was only about 20 ft away she raised"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "her flashlight and pointed in that"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "direction immediately an angry shout"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "rang out put that light down now Dawn"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "quickly lowered the beam but in that"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "brief flash of light she'd seen"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "something that made her stomach churn"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "because standing at the edge of the"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "darkness was the same man sitting"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "outside her tent two nights go the man"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "who would have had to deliberately track"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "Dawn for 15 miles through dense rugged"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "Wilderness to be at this exact spot the"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "second Dawn's brain registered who it"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "was the man turned and bolted into the"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "forest without thinking Dawn jumped up"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "and started chasing him but after only"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "about 100 ft she suddenly stopped and"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "realized she was about to run blindly"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "into pitch black Wilderness probably"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "exactly what this guy wanted she turned"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "and ran back to her camp and in that"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "moment moment decided the trip was over"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "she quickly packed up her essential gear"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "leaving behind anything that would slow"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "her down and used her compass and"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "headlamp to start hiking toward the"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "nearest Trail she knew it would take"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "about 3 or so days to return to her car"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "but she couldn't risk staying put any"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "longer on the first night of trying to"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "escape she had to stop and make Camp"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "when it became too dark to navigate she"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "found a spot with thick brush on three"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "sides hoping it would make it harder for"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "someone to sneak up on her but but"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "throughout the night she kept hearing"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "footsteps circling her tent and each"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "time she built up the courage to look"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "outside nobody was there but the"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "footsteps would start again as soon as"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "she got back in her sleeping bag on the"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "second night Dawn began hearing what"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "sounded like wolf hows in the distance"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "but something about them was off they"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "didn't quite sound natural and the more"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "she listened the more convinced she"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "became that a person was making these"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "sounds trying to mimic a wolf then the"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "hows seem to be getting closer and"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "closer closer to her Camp Dawn barely"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "slept that second night and at first"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "light she started hiking again"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "constantly looking over her shoulder"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "doubling back on her Trail and sometimes"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "hiding behind trees to see if anyone was"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "following her the relief she felt when"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "she finally spotted her car in the"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "trailhead parking lot was overwhelming"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "to say the least she started crying 3"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "months after that Dawn had read a local"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "article in the newspaper about three"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "separate hikers who had gone missing in"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "the mount rineer Wilderness Area"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "over the past year turns out the remains"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "had just been found scattered across the"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "same general region where Dawn had been"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "camping but a detail was buried halfway"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "through the article other hikers in the"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "area had reported strange encounters"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "before these disappearances they"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "described a man who would appear at"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "their campsites at night who seemed to"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "follow them for days through the"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "Wilderness some had even mentioned the"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "man asking about Bell's Canyon"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "investigators had found evidence"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "suggesting all three victims had been"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "stocked for several days before they"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "vanished they discovered multiple"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "makeshift campsites that showed someone"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "actively watching the victims from a"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "distance and documenting their movements"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "police believed they were dealing with a"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "serial killer who hunted people in the"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "wilderness but they had no leads on his"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "identity da immediately called the"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "police and reported her experience but"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "there wasn't much they could do to this"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "day the man has never been identified or"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "caught and the only thing authorities"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "know for certain"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "is that Dawn is one of the few people"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "known to have encountered this predator"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "in the mount rer Wilderness and lived to"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "tell about it she's never gone camping"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "alone"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "again okay so with this last story I'm"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "kind of cheating a little bit we're"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "actually going to look at a story that"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "takes place in Mount rineer Maryland not"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "Washington State but however it's still"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "equally interesting and has a very crazy"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "twist at the end on the morning of March"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "11th 1949 14-year-old Robert Manheim sat"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "at his family's kitchen table in Mount"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "rineer Maryland absent pushing scrambled"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "eggs around his plate while his mother"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "washed dishes at the sink the Manheim"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "lived in a modest two-story home that"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "looked just like every other house on"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "their street white siding dark shutters"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "and a small front porch where Robert's"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "father would often sit in the evenings"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "after work at the hardware store"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "Robert's mother had made breakfast while"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "his father read the newspaper commenting"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "on the unseasonably cold weather they'd"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "been having Robert hadn't felt much like"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "eating though for the past few nights"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "he'd been having trouble sleeping"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "plagued by what he described to his"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "parents as strange nightmares that he"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "could never quite remember when he woke"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "up his mother noticed him playing with"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "his food and told him he needed to eat"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "something before school Robert nodded"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "and managed a few bites but his stomach"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "felt tight and uneasy well later that"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "night everything changed around 3:00 in"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "the morning Robert's mother woke to the"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "sound of furniture scraping across the"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "floor downstairs she assumed her husband"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "had gotten up for a glass of water but"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "when she rolled over he was sound asleep"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "beside her the noise continued a heavy"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "dragging sound that seemed to be coming"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "from the living room she gently shook"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "her husband awake and told him someone"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "must be in the house they crept"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "downstairs together his father carrying"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "a baseball bat but when they reached the"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "living room they stopped dead in their"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "tracks the heavy oak dining table that"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "normally sat in the center of the room"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "had some moved entirely across the floor"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "and was now pressed against the far wall"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "all the chairs were scattered about as"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "if they had been thrown and there in the"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "middle of the chaos stood Robert still"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "in his pajamas eyes wide open but"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "completely vacant muttering something"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "under his breath that his parents"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "couldn't understand his mother called"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "out to him but he did not respond his"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "father approached slowly and touched his"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "shoulder Robert suddenly collapsed and"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "when he came to a few moments later he"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "had no memory of how he gotten"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "downstairs or what had happened to the"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "furniture the next morning Robert's"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "parents tried rationalizing what they'd"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "seen maybe Robert had been sleepwalking"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "or maybe they both imagined the"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "furniture moving on its own either way"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "it was strange to say the least now over"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "the next few days similar incidents"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "began occurring with increasing"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "frequency objects would strangely move"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "across the room heavy Furniture would"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "drag across floors with no one touching"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "it but most disturbing were the changes"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "in Robert during the day he was his"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "usual quiet self though notably more"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "withdrawn but at nights his parents"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "would hear him screaming from his"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "bedroom not normal teenage nightmares"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "but these blood curdling screams"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "punctuated by strings of the most"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "horrible obscenities they'd ever heard"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "his mother desperate for answers took"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "Robert to their family doctor the doctor"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "found nothing physically wrong with the"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "boy suggesting maybe it was just teenage"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "anxiety a child psychologist basically"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "said the same thing even their family"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "ministers seemed at a loss when Robert's"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "mother described what was happening at"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "home but everything escalated one"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "evening in late March when Robert's"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "parents hosted their weekly bridge game"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "with the neighbors Robert had been sent"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "to bed early because he hadn't been"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "feeling well and the adults were sitting"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "around the dining room table playing"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "cards when they heard an enormous Crash"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "from upstairs Robert's father told"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "everyone to stay put while he"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "investigated but before he could even"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "stand up they all heard the sound of"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "Robert's voice except if it wasn't his"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "voice it was deeper more animalistic and"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "he spoke what sounded like perfect Latin"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "the neighbors would later tell police"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "that what happened next to find"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "explanation the dining room table"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "suddenly lifted completely off the"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "ground and began spinning midair cards"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "scattered everywhere the lights started"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "flickering on and off and through it all"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "that horrible voice continued in Latin"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "from upstairs Robert's mother ran to the"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "phone and called their family doctor"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "again practically begging him to come to"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "the house when he arrived 20 minutes"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "later he found Robert thrashing"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "violently on his bed still speaking in"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "that strange voice the Doctor Who had"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "known Robert since he was a baby stood"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "Frozen in the doorway he told Robert's"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "parents that in 30 years of practicing"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "medicine he'd never seen anything like"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "this and even stranger Robert never"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "studied Latin he was just an average"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "student who struggled in his English"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "classes there was simply no way he could"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "have learned these Lex Latin phrases on"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "his own when the doctor tried to"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "approach Robert to examine him the boy's"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "body suddenly went rigid and began"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "levitating several inches off the bed"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "the doctor left that night and told"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "Robert's parents that this was beyond"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "his expertise he suggested they might"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "want to consider seeking help from the"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "church Robert's parents who were"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "Protestant first turned to their"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "Minister and the minister came to their"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "house and tried to pray with Robert but"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "every time he began reciting scripture"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "Robert would start convulsing puling and"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "screaming in that terrible voice in"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "desperation Robert's parents reached out"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "to Father Albert Hughes at St James"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "Catholic Church when father Hughes"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "arrived at their home and saw what was"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "happening with Robert he knew"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "immediately what they were dealing with"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "he told Robert's parents that in his"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "opinion their son was possessed by"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "something demonic and he would need to"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "perform an exorcism the first attempt at"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "exorcism took place in manheim's living"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "room father Hughes had warned the"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "parents that it might be difficult to"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "watch but the moment father Hughes began"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "the ritual and spoke the words in the"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "name of the Father the Son and the Holy"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "Ghost Robert's body contorted in ways"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "that seemed humanly impossible he began"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "spitting and clawing at the priest his"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "fingernails leaving deep scratches on"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "Father Hughes face and hands and after"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "several failed attempts at exorcism"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "father Hughes realized this case was"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "beyond his capabilities Robert was"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "getting worse the family couldn't sleep"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "because objects would fly across rooms"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "at all hours their neighbors had stopped"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "visiting even the mailman refused to"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "deliver to their house after witnessing"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "Robert levitating in an upstairs window"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "one morning the case was eventually"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "brought to the attention of Father"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "William Bodin a Jesuit priest in St"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "Louis with experience with such matters"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "he agreed to take the case but insisted"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "Robert be brought to St Louis so he"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "could perform the ritual in a controlled"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "environment Robert's parents exhausted"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "and terrified agreed immediately the"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "events in St Louis would later be"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "documented in private church records"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "over 20 separate exorcism attempts were"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "performed during each one Robert"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "displayed superhuman strength often"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "Breaking Free from restraints that would"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "have held down a grown man he would"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "speak in multiple voices sometimes"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "carrying on conversations between"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "different entities the temperature in"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "the room would drop dramatically"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "whenever the ritual began and during the"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "final exorcism Robert suddenly became"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "completely still the room which had been"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "in chaos moments before with objects"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "flying and Furniture shaking became"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "quiet then Robert sat up looked around"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "confused and in his normal teenage voice"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "asked what had happened and where he was"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "the demon was gone Robert returned home"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "with his parents and went on to live a"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "normal life but in 1999 exactly 50 years"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "after the original exorcism a local"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "historian named Mark obass Nik decided"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "to dig deeper and what he discovered"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "would completely upend everything people"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "thought they knew about the mount rer"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "exorcism after months of painstaking"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "research through old property records"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "interviews with longtime residents and"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "church documents op sasik discovered"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "that the boy had never lived on Bunker"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "Hill Road the famous three-story house"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "had never existed the entire legend that"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "had grown up around that location was"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "completely false the real boy and his"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "family lived in a modest Bungalow near"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "Cottage City through interviews with"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "people who knew the family and careful"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "examination of Records he uncovered"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "compelling evidence that the boy had"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "likely fabricated the entire possession"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "the violent fits seemed to occur only"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "when they would benefit the boy the"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "Latin phrases he spoke were common"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "prayers that any Catholic School child"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "would have heard the truth was far less"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "Supernatural than the legend and in its"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "wake spawned one of the most famous"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "horror stories of all time The Exorcist"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "and because you made it this far I want"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "you to all comment below"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "Bell's Canyon so that way I know who"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "made it to the end and who didn't and if"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "you guys enjoy storytelling like this"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "where we dive into strange cases of"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "mysterious and Supernatural in a"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "cinematic storytelling fashion what are"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "you waiting for smack that like And"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "subscribe button for more content just"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "like this as always never forget I love"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "you all keep an open mind and I'll see"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "you all in the very next episode"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "The ice had just started to melt when"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "the expedition leader noticed something"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "strange glinting through the fog. At"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "first, he thought it was stone because"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "of how smooth and pale it was and just"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "how many of these objects were scattered"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "all across the shore of this lake. But"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "as he got closer, he realized that there"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "was something very, very wrong. There"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "were hundreds of these objects and they"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "were everywhere along the shore. This"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "ranger's name was HK Madwell, and his"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "discovery would turn a remote Himalayan"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "lake into one of the most chilling"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "mysteries on Earth. You won't want to"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "miss this one. In August of 1942, a"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "forest ranger named HK Madwell was"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "leading a small expedition through the"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "treacherous terrain of the Himalayan"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "mountains in northern India. Despite the"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "extremely dangerous conditions of this"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "region and the fact that he's 16,500 ft"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "up, Madwell was very familiar with it"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "because he had worked here for years. He"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "had trudged up and down these slopes a"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "lot, so he was very comfortable leading"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "this group. Despite it being in August,"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "because of their elevation, it had been"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "snowing a lot recently. The dense snow"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "significantly slowed the process and the"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "icy conditions made the experience"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "worse. They were traveling between the"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "towering peaks of Trishell and Nandanda"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "Ganti when they set up camp for the"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "night. Because they were so close to"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "their destination, Madwell spent extra"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "time that evening ensuring that all"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "their food was rationed and they had"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "enough supplies to make the return trip"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "back. And he was just so excited that"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "night that he actually had problems"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "sleeping in addition to, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "freezing cold, brutal temperatures"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "because that also played a role. By"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "early the next day, the expedition had"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "broken down their camp and continued"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "onward toward their destination. Now,"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "despite it being August, and it's only"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "the two months of the year where the"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "snow and ice temporarily melt away,"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "there was still enough on the ground"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "that made the journey difficult. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "this expedition was planned this time"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "for not just this reason, but also"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "because where they were headed wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "be frozen at all. Or so they hoped. The"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "last major challenge the expedition had"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "to make it through was to reach the top"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "of a ridge deep in the mountains. And it"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "took them a little while, but once they"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "all reached the top, they could just"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "barely make out the small oval of water"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "sitting at the bottom of a rocky basin"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "below. Madwell was completely overjoyed,"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "as was his expedition, because this was"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "great news. Their destination was right"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "there in front of them. So, everybody"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "began to descend down into the rocky"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "basin below. And in a way, their"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "excitement kept them from noticing what"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "was out of place. at least until they"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "got a little bit closer. And as they"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "began to close in the distance between"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "them and this lake, all of them thought"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "they were seeing these strange looking"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "rocks or some kind of debris that they"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "had never seen before. That whatever"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "this was had to have been uncovered by"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "the melting snow. But there was"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "something really wrong about these rocks"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "because they didn't look like typical"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "rocks that you'd find along the shore of"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "any lake. Many of them were either too"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "long or simply too narrow. But they"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "weren't all that large. Strangely, they"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "were all this pristine white, as if they"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "had just been bleached by the sun. And"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "once the team drew close enough, they"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "realized what they were looking at."}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "Scattered around the edges of this lake"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "and partially submerged in the water"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "were hundreds of human bones. They"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "didn't look very old and many of them"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "were not fully decomposed. In fact,"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "several of the skeletons still had flesh"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "attached. The expedition realized for"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "the first time in that moment that they"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "were looking at the scene of a massacre."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "There were human remains literally"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "everywhere. And by this point, everybody"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "in the group was in a frenzy, and many"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "of them were second-guessing this"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "expedition altogether. between the"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "terror and confusion because remember"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "this is in a very remote and sacred"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "region of the Himalayas. So to stumble"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "upon what appeared to be hundreds of"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "dead bodies isn't just disturbing, it"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "felt like they're cursed and that they"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "may very well fall victim to the same"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "fate that all these people did. Not"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "exactly sure what they should do next,"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "the porters, who helped carry the"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "luggage for the expedition, all turned"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "as a group and ran back up the basin and"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "out of view. They flat out refused to"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "stay another moment in this place of"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "death for fear that they were next."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "Madwell was just as terrified and"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "confused, but because of his career as a"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "forest ranger, he felt driven by his"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "duty and integrity regardless of how"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "horrible or strange the situation was."}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "Madwell and his assistant made the"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "decision that they were going to stay"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "behind and get to the bottom of this."}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "They knew that they wanted time to"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "thoroughly examine all the remains and"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "look for clues, but they realized that"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "they were potentially dealing with"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "something unnatural, like a horrific"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "curse, and that this is why there were"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "just so many bodies up here. But deep"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "down, they really wanted to just feel"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "validation and find that there was a"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "scientific explanation behind all of it."}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "For the next several hours, many of the"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "men carefully made their way around the"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "lake, documenting everything they could"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "find. You know, they took pages of notes"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "and all sorts of measurements as best"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "they could with the materials and tools"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "they had. During this, they found other"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "strange things. I mean, there weren't"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "just skeletons. They also found various"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "personal items of all shapes and sizes."}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "I mean, everything from bamboo sticks to"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "wooden utensils and strangely umbrellas"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "that were scattered among the remains in"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "the snow and ice. But the strangest of"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "all were leather sandals. And let me"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "tell you why. Because Madwell had been"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "living in this region for a very long"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "time, it would be obvious that he was"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "aware of the typical footwear worn by"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "people in the region. They're a kind of"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "sandal called chappels, and they were"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "noticeably larger than any of the"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "sandals worn by people in the region."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "That alone told Madwell that something"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "was very off about all this, despite"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "there being hundreds of bodies, but he"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "knew that the sandal part was a very"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "important detail. Now, because of the"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "harsh conditions at nighttime and just"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "the general area, the expedition did not"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "have enough supplies to stay longer and"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "examine things closer. They would have"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "to head back and report this to the"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "authorities. The expedition spent the"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "next 5 to 6 days slowly coming down the"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "Himalayan mountains to the next point of"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "civilization. Normally, you would think"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "that if you alerted the authorities"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "about possibly several hundred bodies"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "just sitting out there in the wilderness"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "that it would trigger an immediate mass"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "investigation. And normally that would"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "be the case. But this was in 1942 and"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "India was still under British rule."}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "Unfortunately, at the time the British"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "government was too preoccupied with"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "other things like World War II to"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "investigate. When they found out about"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "what had been discovered, they weren't"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "really concerned with the dead bodies"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "themselves or even how they died. They"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "were more concerned about the security"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "implications because they speculated"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "that these skeletons were actually"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "Japanese soldiers, which meant that the"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "enemy had somehow managed to infiltrate"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "India through some route that nobody was"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "aware of. And if this was the case, this"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "raised some serious alarms. The"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "government knew that if this went on,"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "they could be susceptible to all sorts"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "of attacks. So, they needed to act"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "quickly. They launched their own"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "investigation. Again, not to get to the"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "bottom of why the skeletons were at this"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "lake, but rather just to find out"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "whether or not their presence alone"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "posed a threat to the war effort. After"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "some time, the government felt as though"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "they had sufficiently investigated and"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "determined that all the bodies were in"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "fact not from Japanese soldiers and"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "therefore their presence in India did"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "not pose a threat at all. Again, Britain"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "didn't really spend a whole lot of time"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "from an archaeological perspective"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "trying to find out the mystery behind"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "the bodies. They just wanted to make"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "sure that they were safe. So any"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "investigation that was done was very"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "surface level, at least to the public."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "But even in their investigation, they"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "concluded that these bodies were much"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "older than anyone originally thought."}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "Now, because there was no more security"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "concern, the British authorities just"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "closed the case. Of course, there was a"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "chance that down the line they might get"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "around to it when they had the"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "resources, but you know, who's to say"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "when that's going to happen? They closed"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "the books on the case and that was"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "pretty much it. People were not really"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "traveling there and a lot of the people"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "who lived in and around the area just"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "generally avoided it altogether. For"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "about 13 years, it was kind of just this"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "really taboo place that you did not want"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "to go to. It was believed that whoever"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "these people were that were found had"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "clearly died because again they were"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "cursed. End of story. But in 1955, a"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "government deputy minister in newly"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "independent India decided to publicly"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "announce to the world the existence of"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "these skeletons. And it was because of"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "his announcement that this discovery"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "gained widespread attention. At this"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "point in 1955, World War II was over and"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "India was now governing its own affairs."}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "It was at this point that the first"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "official investigation was launched in"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "pursuit of actually figuring out who"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "these skeletons were. But remember, just"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "like the expedition 13 years before,"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "this was no small undertaking. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "this lake required quite a bit of a"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "trek. And to get there, one had to"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "travel 30 miles over very rough terrain"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "that takes about 5 days from the nearest"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "settlement. And this is a journey that"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "will truly test any seasoned traveler"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "because I mean you're going through"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "thick oak forests and alpine meadows all"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "across the Himalayas. It's freezing cold"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "at night and there's not a lot of"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "coverage depending on where you are."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "Even by today's standards with all of"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "our advanced equipment, it's still"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "considered a very dangerous journey. So"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "you could imagine that in 1955 they were"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "taking all the necessary precautions to"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "go into one of the most remote places on"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "the planet. When the expedition"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "eventually reached the lake, the"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "conditions had changed some 13 years"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "ago. The expedition did the best they"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "could though and they were able to"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "collect some samples in addition to"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "various artifacts. But upon returning,"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "they realized they would need more"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "specimens to fully uncover the mystery"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "of who or what killed all these people"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "and just left their bodies along the"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "shoreline. The following year in 1956,"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "three separate investigations were also"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "conducted where they discovered even"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "more remains. And because they planned"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "it out better, they were very meticulous"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "about how they conducted their studies"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "and what sort of evidence they brought"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "back. Those on the expedition itself"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "were very paranoid the entire time"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "because they too were convinced that"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "this was cursed land and that's why all"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "these people had perished. They were"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "risking their lives to be a part of this"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "expedition for science. And fortunately,"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "none of them died during this in-depth"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "investigation. But they were still"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "pretty perplexed by the data they got"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "back. Right away, they started comparing"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "all the ages of those who were deceased"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "along the shoreline and realized that"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "the majority of them were healthy"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "middle-aged adults around 35 to 40. And"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "there were even a few elderly. So surely"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "this had to mean something, right? Well,"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "what was also revealed in their forensic"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "analysis is that these weren't random"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "people from around the region or even"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "people who were traveling from far away."}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "There were two genetically distinct"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "groups among the bodies, but they"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "couldn't exactly pinpoint what race or"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "where on the earth they had come from."}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "All they can make out was that one group"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "was notably taller and had longer and"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "narrower skulls. the same ones who had"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "also had the oversized sandals that"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "Madwell noticed back in 1942. The other"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "group of remains came from those with"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "smaller, rounder heads. They can"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "conclude that there were definitely"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "relatives among these bodies, but again,"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "nothing concrete to definitively say"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "that these people came from this region"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "of the world and that these people came"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "from this region of the world. This made"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "the forensic teams increasingly"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "frustrated because it just didn't make"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "any sense. But probably the most bizarre"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "finding out of everything is that many"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "of the skulls, not all of them, but many"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "of them had this very distinctive"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "depression fracture. All nearly"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "identical. That meant that these people"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "were struck on top of their skull from a"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "blunt round object. Not all individuals"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "showed this consistent head trauma, but"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "there was more than enough to create a"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "pattern that demanded an explanation."}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "The forensic team started thinking that"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "this was possibly some kind of cult"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "ritual or maybe a suicide pact. They"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "weren't really sure, but to understand"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "it further, they needed to first know"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "how old these bodies were. And at the"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "time, the expedition reached out to"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "Oxford University and sent them the"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "remains to conduct radiocarbon dating on"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "the skeletons. Radiocarbon dating is"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "obviously far from perfect. So they got"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "second opinions as well just to try to"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "get a ballpark to figure out what they"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "were dealing with. The consensus was"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "that whoever these people were, they had"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "died sometime between 500 and 800 years"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "ago. So obviously very old remains. Now"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "keep in mind that even after all of this"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "detailed forensic analysis, they still"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "weren't really closer to solving"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "anything. I mean, sure, they had some"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "answers about genetics to an extent, and"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "they had some rough ideas, but they"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "weren't sure what to make of it all."}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "Years later, in 2003, National"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "Geographic decided that, you know what,"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "they're going to conduct their own"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "expedition and figure this out once and"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "for all. Because this was in 2003."}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "Obviously, much of the equipment and"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "technology in general had increased"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "dramatically. So, not only was the"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "expedition easier, but they were able to"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "retrieve more evidence and just do an"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "overall more thorough job in their own"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "analysis. They retrieved roughly 30"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "skeletons from the surrounding area and"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "parts of the lake, and they themselves"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "were shocked by how many skeletons still"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "had flesh attached. They believed that"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "they were going to get some answers"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "finally. However, when they got the"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "bodies back to their labs and they"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "started doing the same analysis that the"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "previous expeditions had done, they"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "didn't find what they were looking for."}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "And in fact, they ended up with more"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "questions. Based on everything they knew"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "about this location and the condition"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "and state of these bodies is that at"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "some point there was some massive"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "singular catastrophic event roughly"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "around the 9th century. exactly what"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "though they weren't sure and could not"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "explain these large fractures in many of"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "the skulls. One might think that after"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "looking at the data you would just be"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "like obviously there was a large battle"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "that took place here or maybe there were"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "bandits or that there was several"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "violent bloody skirmishes. But that's"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "not the case. And in fact, according to"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "all the expeditions that spent days and"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "weeks, it turns out that there is no"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "recorded history of any such battles"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "taking place. There aren't even any"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "weapons. In fact, the only thing"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "remotely close that was found were"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "spearheads. But because of the condition"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "in which they were found and how many,"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "it was concluded that they were used for"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "hunting and not for war. Additionally,"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "none of the skeletons ever recovered or"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "analyzed showed any signs of being"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "stabbed. Again, only the blunt force"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "trauma to a portion of the skulls"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "recovered. In 2019, the most"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "comprehensive study of this event was"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "published. This was a 5-year research"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "project that involved 28 co-authors from"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "16 institutions that spanned all across"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "India. I mean, this was a big deal."}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "We're talking about a very, very"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "in-depth examination targeting"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "genomewide DNA of the 38 skeletons that"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "were extracted. But unlike all the other"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "previous expeditions, they came to a"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "different conclusion. There were not"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "only two groups, but actually three"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "distinct groups. Out of the 38"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "skeletons, 23 of them, from what they"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "could tell, originated from South Asia,"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "just based on their ancestry. Given the"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "location of this lake, it seemed"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "reasonable, but 14 of them had Eastern"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "Mediterranean ancestry. To get this"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "data, they had constructed a very"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "detailed dietary profile of every single"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "victim, so they could see that they all"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "came from different cultures and"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "regions. This meant that some of the"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "people who died here were a very long"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "way from home and somehow many many"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "years ago in a time when traveling to"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "this particular section of the Himalayas"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "was so much more difficult they found a"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "way to get there. You need to understand"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "that hundreds of years ago traveling to"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "this extremely remote lake in the"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "Himalayas would have been outright"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "impossible for the majority of the"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "population. Whoever these people were"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "had clearly put a lot of effort and time"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "into traveling, for what reason no one"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "knew. Nor did they know how or why they"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "had died in the manner of which they"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "did. To make matters even stranger, when"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "they used new dating techniques to try"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "and see if they could pinpoint the exact"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "dates, they realized something. They"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "initially thought that everybody had"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "died at the same time from some singular"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "catastrophic event. But the data showed"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "something different. A group of them had"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "died roughly two to 300 years ago, but"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "the rest of them died many, many, many"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "years prior to this, which meant that"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "groups of people would travel to this"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "location and die somehow and just be"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "left there. Pretty much all teams who"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "spent a lot of time going over all the"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "data who were looking into this were"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "flabbergasted. This is a location that"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "is so remote and inhospitable and it's"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "not near any major or known trade route."}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "It's not really somewhere you can just"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "mistakenly wander off into. You have to"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "know exactly where you're going and"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "people have to deliberately travel here."}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "One of their theories was that all these"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "people had actually died because of some"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "ancient pathogen. Maybe they had become"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "infected somehow and were sent here as"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "an effective means to be executed and"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "kind of kept away from the rest of"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "civilization. However, once it turned"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "out that there wasn't any evidence to"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "support that theory, all they could do"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "is look to a legend within their own"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "region that could possibly explain what"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "was happening. It's said that a king and"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "queen once embarked on a great"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "pilgrimage to honor the goddess Nandanda"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "Devi, which the mountains to the"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "northeast of this lake are named after."}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "The pilgrimage did not end at this lake,"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "but at another lake known as Hamkund"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "Lake. But in order to reach Homund Lake,"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "you had to travel directly around this"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "lake with all the bodies. And at the"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "time there were very strict rules that"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "prohibited women, children, elderly,"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "leather goods, and various other things"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "beyond certain points of the trail. So"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "it was a very strict journey. But the"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "king and queen made a vital mistake. For"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "whatever reason, they broke the sacred"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "set of rules and brought with them"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "women, children, musicians, dancers, all"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "beyond the allowed points, knowing full"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "well what they were doing. The gods and"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "goddesses took great offense in this act"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "of disrespect. And at the time, the"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "pilgrimage were making their way through"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "this lake when the hell storm came,"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "slaughtering all of them as an act of"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "divine judgment. A thousand years later,"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "a completely separate pilgrimage"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "traveled through this area and were also"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "slaughtered. They couldn't conclude if"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "the hell storms had simply killed"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "everybody or if that the hell storms had"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "just killed one group but then didn't"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "kill the other. I mean based on the"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "skeletons alone, it seemed as if they"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "had died of different causes and not all"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "from the same thing. In recent years, a"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "researcher named RS Neg decided to do"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "some digging into this mystery and"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "discovered that for the last several"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "hundred years, there are historical"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "records about people falling from this"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "treacherous ridge nearby and falling to"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "their death on the shores of this lake."}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "So many people had died from falling off"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "of this ridge that it earned the"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "nickname Alley of Death. It was taken"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "very seriously and the government on"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "multiple occasions warned travelers who"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "would go out here to be very careful."}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "Around 1931, they realized that with all"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "the recent accounts coming in, they"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "needed to take the situation much more"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "seriously. In addition to people falling"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "off this ledge and other people dying"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "there in mysterious ways, there were"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "pilgrims making a trek to this lake and"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "making a sacrifice ritual known as"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "Atmosark. In Hindi, this translates"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "roughly to self-sacrifice. But it's not"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "a philosophical concept. It's a"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "terrifying life or death decision. It"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "means completely giving up your own self"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "for a higher cause. Think of the slow,"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "quiet, agonizing fate of a monk who"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "simply stops eating and wastess away."}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "But other than just outright banning"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "access to the area of the Himalayas,"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "there wasn't a whole lot that the"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "government could do. In fact, even with"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "the expeditions going on and them doing"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "all of this forensic analysis to try and"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "figure out what was happening, the"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "government kind of just had to leave"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "this site alone. I mean, what else could"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "they possibly do? As time has gone on,"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "stories about this lake and what's"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "happened here have naturally made their"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "way out into the world. In 2009, in an"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "effort to capitalize on this and you"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "know try to restore the reputation of"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "this site, a company out of Bangalore"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "offered to take people out to this lake"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "on these organized group tracks. And"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "within years, the lake saw a large"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "influx of tourist coming and going to"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "this lake and exploring around. Several"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "began taking bones from around the lake"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "as kind of a souvenir, even though they"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "weren't supposed to. By 2018, so 9 years"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "later, it had gotten so bad between the"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "obvious ecological damage that was"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "taking place and people stealing bones"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "that the Indian government had to act."}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "They came in, they shut it down"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "permanently in hopes that they would be"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "able to save any endangered species and"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "protect what little remains of this very"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "unique archaeological site. Today,"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "nobody's sure exactly why people have"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "died here and what the real answer is to"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "this mystery. It's estimated that around"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "800 people have died here, and their"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "remains are still there. The lake is"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "called Rupkund Lake, or more ominously"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "fitting, skeleton lake. And because you"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "guys made it this far, I want you to all"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "comment down below no bones about it. So"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "that way I know who made it to the end"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "and who didn't. And if you guys enjoy"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "storytelling like this, where we deep"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "dive into strange cases of the"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "mysterious and supernatural, what are"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "you waiting for? Smack that like and"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "subscribe button right now for more"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "content just like this. As always, I"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "love you all. Keep an open mind and I'll"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "see you guys all in the very next video."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "On the night of July 1st, 2025, an"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "astronomer named Edward was sitting at a"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "computer screen in Rio Herado, Chile."}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "The astronomer had a cup of coffee. The"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "dome of the telescope was open to the"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "cold Chilean night. On the screen,"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "alerts would just pop up periodically."}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "Dot moving here, a streak there. But on"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "this night, one of those dots was"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "different. Most of these were known"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "asteroids. They were already cataloged"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "and tracked. That means there was"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "nothing to worry about. And Edward's job"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "was relatively simple because he would"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "check each one and then he would verify"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "it against the database. Then he would"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "mark it as identified and simply move on"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "to the next. Night after night, he would"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "scan huge swaths of sky looking for"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "anything abnormal against the stars. He"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "did this with the Atlas telescope,"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "otherwise known as the Asteroid"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "Terrestrial Impact Last Alert System."}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "When he looked at the screen again, a"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "strange alert had popped up. There was a"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "moving object designated initially as"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "just a random string of characters the"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "system assigned. But the numbers next to"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "it, the velocity numbers didn't make any"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "sense. In fact, this astronomer had to"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "double take and he realized something."}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "This object was moving way too fast."}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "Normally, when astronomers calculate the"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "orbit of something, they're looking for"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "a specific number called eccentricity."}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "For anything orbiting our sun, that"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "number needs to be less than one. But"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "this object was over six, which seemed"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "completely impossible. Edward ran the"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "calculation again, the same result."}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "Checked the observations, made sure"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "there wasn't any errors in the data, but"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "the number stayed the same. The only"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "explanation is that this object was not"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "orbiting our sun, that it had come from"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "another star system entirely. Edward sat"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "back in his chair and just stared at the"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "screen. And quickly, he began running"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "the orbit backwards to try and trace"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "where this had come from. The computer"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "showed the object's path extending back,"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "back way beyond Neptune out into"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "interstellar space. This thing had come"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "from another star. There were two"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "others, but there was just something"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "strange about this one. The object was"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "moving at 58 km/ second relative to our"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "sun. That's roughly 130,000 mph, which"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "mind you is the fastest solar system"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "visitor ever recorded. It was clear that"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "this was something extraordinary. If it"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "was moving so fast, how long had it been"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "traveling? Edward's calculations"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "suggested millions of years, maybe even"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "billions. Now, the speed at which it's"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "going is so fast. So, let me put that"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "into perspective. It's fast enough to"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "circle Earth in about 11 minutes. And at"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "that speed, you could travel from Earth"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "to the moon in less than 2 hours. But"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "what's important is that objects like"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "this don't start out moving that speed."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "They build up over time. As they pass by"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "stars, they get gravitational boosts,"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "like little kicks that make them go"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "faster and faster with the object"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "bouncing from star to star, picking up"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "speed with each encounter. A UCLA"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "professor named David Jwitt, the same"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "man who co-discovered the Kyper Belt,"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "explained that due to its speed alone,"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "it had to have been out there for a very"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "long time. With what little evidence"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "they had about this object, they"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "realized this wasn't just another star."}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "They were looking at something ancient."}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "But the question was just exactly how"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "ancient. On July 11th, a young"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "astronomer named Matthew Hopkins stood"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "at the podium at the UK National"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "Astronomy Meeting. He had an answer that"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "was about to stun everybody. The room"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "was packed with fellow astronomers who"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "were all very eager to know more about"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "this bizarre cosmic visitor. and he was"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "about to present his team's analysis of"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "this visitor, which now officially had a"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "name, threeey atlas, the third"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "interstellar object. Hopkins clicked to"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "his first slide, which showed the"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "trajectory of the threeey atlas through"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "our solar system. Nothing about this was"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "strange because it just showed an arc"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "that would bring it close to the sun and"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "then fling it back out to space. Then"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "came the next one though, and this one"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "showed the object's path not through our"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "solar system, but through the entire"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "galaxy. And now things are getting"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "interesting. As it turns out, Hopkins"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "and his entire team didn't trace the"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "object's path backwards. They traced it"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "way back and accounted for all the"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "gravitational pole of stars and even the"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "rotation of the galaxy itself. This"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "object was not moving in the same plane"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "as most stars. It was coming from what"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "astronomers call the thick disc of the"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "Milky Way. It's actually different from"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "where our own sun lives. We're in the"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "thin disc where most of the younger"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "stars are all rotating around the galaxy"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "in a relatively flat plane. But this"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "one, the thick disc, is much older. It's"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "said to be populated by ancient stars"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "that formed when the galaxy was young."}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "Hopkins clicked to the next slide and"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "presented a number to his audience that"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "was sure to change everything. 10"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "billion years. The room was stunned with"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "Hopkins going on to explain that based"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "on the object's trajectory, velocity,"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "and its apparent origin in the thick"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "disc, they estimated it to be about 10"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "billion years old, maybe older than"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "that, which would make this object"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "possibly the oldest comet ever observed"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "in our entire history. But as you'll see"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "throughout this episode, it continually"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "gets more and more strange. People in"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "the audience started raising their"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "hands. I mean, how could they be sure?"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "What did this mean? Hopkins explained"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "that this object was essentially a time"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "capsule, that it had formed around a"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "star that probably doesn't even exist."}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "And now, by pure chance, its path had"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "intersected with ours. On July 21st, the"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "Hubble Space Telescope turned toward"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "Three Eye Atlas. David Jwitt, who was"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "leading the observation, knew this would"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "not be an easy task. The object was"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "moving incredibly fast across the sky."}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "So fast that Hubble had to track it like"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "you'd track a bird with binoculars."}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "Fortunately, they were able to track it"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "and lock onto it, which was about 277"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "million miles away. The telescope began"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "collecting photons, building up an image"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "pixel by pixel, and that's when they had"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "their first real data. Because of how"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "the data compiles, it was initially just"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "noise and static. But as the image"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "processed and was able to layer in its"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "own data, a shape emerged. What they"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "could see was a teardrop. A teardrop of"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "dust. And in actuality, this was ancient"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "dust or particles that had been frozen"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "in ice for a very long time. The ice was"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "doing something called sublimating,"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "which is turning from solid directly to"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "gas. And as it did this, it released"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "these particles that had been trapped"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "since what we could only speculate was"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "the literal dawn of time. When the team"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "began analyzing the image, they could"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "see that the dust cloud was huge and"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "stretched out beyond the nucleus like a"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "cosmic teardrop. By measuring the"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "brightness and extent of this dust, they"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "were able to estimate the size of the"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "nucleus or the actual body of the comet."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "They could be around 5 km across. Now,"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "that's not exactly huge, but it's not"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "tiny. This is maybe a mile or two wide."}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "Even though they now had some data on"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "the object, they realized that they were"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "seeing materials from an era when the"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "galaxy was young, they still didn't"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "understand what it was or what it was"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "made of. On August 6th, a NASA scientist"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "named Martin Cordiner led the"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "observation using the James Webb Space"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "Telescope, which is the most powerful"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "infrared eye ever built. Now, the James"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "Web could do something that the Hubble"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "couldn't do. It could read the chemical"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "fingerprint of the comet. When light"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "passes through gas, certain wavelengths"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "get absorbed. By seeing which"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "wavelengths are missing, scientists can"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "tell exactly which molecules are"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "present. Corner's team began analyzing"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "the spectrum, and they began finding"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "some really interesting details. It"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "turns out that this comet was dominated"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "by carbon dioxide. Well, that's strange"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "because most comets in our solar system"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "when they get close to the sun actually"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "release water vapor. But this object was"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "different. And instead of water vapor,"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "CO2 was pouring out of it. Scientists"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "realized what this meant. That this"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "comet had never been near a star before."}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "In our solar system, comets that"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "repeatedly approach the sun lose their"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "CO2 first. It sublimates at colder temps"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "than water. So, our comets are water"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "rich because they've been baked by our"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "sun over so many years. Buckle up,"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "folks, because uh things were about to"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "get very strange. In early September,"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "astronomers tracking this object started"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "noticing something that didn't make"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "sense. The comet was pouring out massive"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "amounts of gas. I mean, they could"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "clearly see it through their telescopes,"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "but the object wasn't moving the way it"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "should. When comets release gas, it's"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "like a rocket engine. The gas shoots out"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "one direction, the comet gets pushed in"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "the other. It's basic physics. The James"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "Web telescope had already confirmed that"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "the threeey atlas was releasing enormous"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "amounts of carbon dioxide, eight times"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "more CO2 than water vapor, which was one"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "of the highest ratios ever recorded in"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "any comet. But when astronomers check"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "the trajectory data, this object hadn't"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "moved, not even a millimeter off its"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "predicted path. Every single comet"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "scientists had ever studied showed this"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "acceleration when it outgassed, except"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "this one. Either this object was so"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "massive that rocket force outgassing"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "couldn't budge it, which would make it"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "impossibly dense, or it had some kind of"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "station keeping thrusters to maintain"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "its course. Some people try to explain"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "it by suggesting three Atlas might have"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "a mass of over 33 billion metric tonses."}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "But even at the largest size estimates,"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "that would give it the density of metal."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "And comets are not supposed to be iron"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "cannonballs. An Israeli American"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "physicist by the name of Avi Lobe"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "researching where the three-ey atlas had"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "come from, it pointed to a specific"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "region in the constellation of"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "Sagittarius. Lo immediately saw the"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "connection. On August 15th, 1977, at"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "10:16 p.m., astronomer Jerry Eman was"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "reviewing data from the Big Ear Radio"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "Telescope at Ohio State University when"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "he saw something that made him grab his"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "red pen. On the printout in front of him"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "was a sequence of numbers and letters. 6"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "EQ U J5. To most people, it would look"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "like gibberish, but he knew exactly what"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "it meant. This was a signal 30 times"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "stronger than the background noise of"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "space. A signal that had never been"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "seen. He circled it and wrote a single"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "word in the margin. Wow. For 72 seconds,"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "something had transmitted a powerful"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "radio signal at 1420 MHz. That's the"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "same frequency that hydrogen atoms emit"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "naturally. And it's so fundamental to"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "the universe that scientists had long"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "theorized any intelligent civilization"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "would monitor it like a universal"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "emergency channel of some kind. But then"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "it stopped. The Big Telescope never"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "detected it again. And for the next 48"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "years, astronomers searched that patch"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "of sky, but there was nothing. It still"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "remains unexplained. Now, space is"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "really big, but the chances of two"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "unrelated things coming from the same"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "direction should be tiny. Lo calculated"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "the exact probability, and we're talking"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "about a 0.6% chance, considering the WOW"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "signal and the Atlas's trajectory are"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "aligned within 9\u00b0 of each other."}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "However, some observers claimed that in"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "early August, radio telescopes detected"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "a brief signal coming from the threeey"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "atlas itself. I'm not talking about"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "reflected radio waves or natural"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "emissions. We're talking about an actual"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "transmission that allegedly lasted 11"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "seconds and when decoded showed a"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "repeating sequence of prime numbers. 2 3"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "5 7 11 1317 17. Prime numbers don't"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "occur naturally in space. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "they're mathematical. They require"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "intelligence to generate. In fact, Carl"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "Sean famously suggested that if we ever"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "received a signal from aliens, it might"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "be prime numbers, a universal way to say"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "that this is intentional. Of course,"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "NASA has not confirmed this detection."}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "And in fact, they've been remarkably"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "quiet about any radio observations of"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "the Three-Ey Atlas. But multiple amateur"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "radio astronomers claimed that they have"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "detected these unusual signals in the"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "object's vicinity. Christina Gomez, who"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "covers space anomalies, reported that"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "some observers were seeing structured"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "sound coming from the object or patterns"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "that repeated every 22 minutes. Avi Lobo"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "suspects that it's possible that"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "whatever this is, it's not a comet, but"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "is artificial. And he has tasked his"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "entire research team at the Galileo"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "project, which is Harvard's scientific"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "search for extraterrestrial technology,"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "to monitor the sky around it. But folks,"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "we're not talking about just watching"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "the object, but to look for unusual"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "activity. I mean, he even explained to"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "Newsmax that if this is an alien probe,"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "it would release some mini probes that"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "will visit the planet. Now, keep in mind"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "that is coming from a Harvard professor,"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "the former chair of Harvard's astronomy"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "department, saying that we need to watch"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "for probes. On October 3rd, something"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "unprecedented was about to happen. For"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "the first time in history, humanity"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "would have a front row seat to watch an"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "interstellar object pass by another"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "planet. Multiple spacecraft orbiting"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "Mars, NASA's Mars Reconnaissance"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "Orbiter, the European Space Ay's Mars"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "Express, and the Exom Mars Trace Gas"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "Orbiter had all been positioned to"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "capture this object during its closest"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "approach, just 29 million km from Mars."}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "The preparations for this had been very"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "meticulous. Everything was pre-planned."}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "But something strange happened, or"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "rather didn't happen. NASA released"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "exactly one image, and it was from the"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "worst possible camera they had"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "available. The Perseverance rover's"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "navigation camera, which was designed to"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "help the rover on Mars surface. The"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "image showed what appeared to be an"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "elongated stripe about four times longer"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "than it was wide. Within hours, social"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "media exploded. People were calling it a"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "tic tac, a cylinder proof of an alien"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "craft. But there was, of course, a"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "problem with this interpretation. Mr."}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "Loe explained to the public that due to"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "the sheer distance of this object from"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "Mars when the image was taken that the"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "spatial scale was so blown out of"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "proportion per pixel, specifically about"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "12,500 km per pixel. The streak in the"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "image was 4 pixels long, which would"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "make it roughly like 50,000 km in"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "length. And if this object was actually"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "a cylinder that massive, I mean, we"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "would have noticed it the moment it"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "entered our solar system. Without"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "getting super nerdy about how cameras"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "and exposure time work, what people were"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "actually seeing was a timelapse"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "artifact. Because the object was so"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "faint, NASA had to stack multiple images"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "taken over the course of 10 minutes,"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "which means the result looks like a"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "streak out in space. But why did NASA"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "only release this one terrible,"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "misleading image? And more importantly,"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "where were the images from all the good"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "highresolution cameras? The fact that"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "NASA gave a minimal official statement"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "is strange, too. They basically said"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "that Mars orbiters successfully"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "conducted their observations and that"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "data is being processed. The Mars"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "Reconnaissance Orbiter carries an"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "instrument called High-Rise, the"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "highresolution imaging science"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "experiment. This camera alone can"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "achieve a resolution of 30 km per pixel"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "at the distance of Thuri Atlas. That"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "would finally give us a clear look at"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "the nucleus. The data was definitely"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "captured. But that statement that NASA"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "gave was issued over three weeks ago. So"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "where's the images? NASA blamed the"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "delay on the government shutdown that"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "most of their staff had been sent home."}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "But if they could process and release"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "the Perseverance image, why couldn't"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "they release the raw high-rise data?"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "Mars orbiter images are typically made"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "public within days. I mean sometimes"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "hours. The website normally updates"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "every few days with new photos, but"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "nothing from the threeey atlas flyby."}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "And then there were the images that were"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "released, and they were bizarre. The"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "European Space Agency captured a series"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "of 5second exposures of this strange"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "object. Now, only weeks earlier,"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "groundbased telescopes had clearly"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "observed a tail. The theory around this"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "is that the object had recently been hit"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "by a coronal mass ejection, which is a"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "blast of solar plasma that can"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "temporarily destroy a comet's tail. But"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "the issue with that is that when this"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "happens, the tails reform within minutes"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "or hours. What if what we saw before"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "wasn't actually a tail at all? Around"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "the beginning of September, an amateur"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "astronomer named Michael Joerger was"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "photographing the sky over Namibia when"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "he captured something strange about the"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "object. Threeey atlas was glowing green."}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "It was a vivid, unmistakable green that"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "lit up the images. Immediately, he"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "shared the photos with his colleague"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "Gerald Raymond. And within hours, other"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "amateur astronomers around the world"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "were confirming the same thing, that the"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "comet was green. But only weeks before,"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "the very large telescope in Chile had"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "determined that it was carbon chain"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "depleted, which means it has almost no"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "diearbon, the molecule that makes comets"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "glow green when hit by sunlight. This"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "object is one of the most carbon"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "depleted comets ever recorded. Stefan"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "Burns, who is an amateur astronomer,"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "analyzed images from NASA's Perseverance"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "rover, and he posted a time-lapse"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "animation online. Other astronomers"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "immediately started picking it apart"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "frame by frame. Then people could see"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "things that nobody had noticed before,"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "specifically multiple objects. Not just"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "one, but several fastm moving points of"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "light traveling together. At the 3se"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "secondond mark of Burns's animation,"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "there's a brief green flash. Not a"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "single pixel camera artifact, but a"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "diffused glow. And it's not coming from"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "the object. It's offset from the main"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "object. And the polarization data was"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "also wrong. Zuri Gray and her team"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "published the first ever polarometric"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "observations of it, which is a process"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "in which we figure out what dust"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "particles in space are made of and how"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "big they are and how they're structured."}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "Like all the other strange things about"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "3i Atlas, it showed what they called an"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "exceptionally deep and narrow negative"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "polarization branch, which is another"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "way of saying no comet in our solar"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "system behaves this way. No asteroid"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "either. Even Borosov, the last"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "interstellar visitor, showed positive"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "polarization. Threeey Atlas, was"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "scattering light in a way that's never"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "been seen before. They really had no"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "idea what it was made of. Come October"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "30th of this year, something's going to"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "happen that has astronomers genuinely"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "worried. For approximately 3 weeks,"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "we're going to lose sight of it"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "completely. As threeey atlas swings"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "around the sun at parihelion, its"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "closest approach, it's going to pass"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "from behind the sun from Earth's"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "perspective. Every groundbased telescope"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "on our planet will be blind. The sun's"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "glare will completely wash out any"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "possibility of observation. Normally,"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "this wouldn't be a huge concern because"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "comets pass behind the sun all the time."}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "We lose sight of them, they come back"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "out the other side, and we continue"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "tracking them. But threeey atlas is not"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "a normal comet. And what happens to"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "comets at perihelion isn't always"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "predictable. Look at comet Isson in"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "2013. It was supposed to be the comet of"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "the century. Astronomers watched it"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "approach the sun getting brighter and"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "brighter and then it went behind at"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "Parihelion when it should have emerged"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "on the other side. There was nothing."}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "The sun had destroyed it. Or comet"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "Lovejoy in 2011. It flew so close to the"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "sun within 140,000 kilometers of the"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "surface, scientists were certain it"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "would be vaporized. But it survived and"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "came out the other side fundamentally"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "changed. Its tail had been ripped off"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "and reformed and its nucleus had been"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "fragmented. It was barely recognizable"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "as the same. The point is that"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "perihelion is violent. The radiation"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "pressure is crushing and the temperature"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "swings are very extreme. The"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "gravitational forces can literally tear"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "objects apart. And threeey atlas is"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "going to experience all of this while we"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "can't watch. But some scientists think"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "it might not just survive it, it might"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "activate it. If this is artificial, and"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "that's still a big if, then parhelion"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "might be exactly what it's been waiting"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "for. This is where things obviously get"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "very uncomfortable for a lot of people."}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "In this scenario, an object approaching"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "the sun, disappearing from view,"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "potentially transforming or activating"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "while hidden. It sounds like Project"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "Blue Beam. Project Blue Beam is a"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "conspiracy that claims NASA and the UN"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "are planning to fake an alien invasion"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "or some sort of religious event like the"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "second coming of Christ or something to"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "that degree using advanced holographic"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "technology. A ton of people dismiss it,"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "including modern science, but the timing"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "alone is making people second guessess."}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "I mean, it's really making a lot of us"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "anxious. You have this strange object"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "with all of these anomalous properties"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "and, you know, growing media attention"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "about a possible artificial origin and a"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "period where we lose sight of it"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "completely. And when it reemerges in"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "December, I mean, who knows what we'll"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "see. Supposedly, the European Space Ay's"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "Juice spacecraft is supposed to observe"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "the threeey atlas in late November,"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "right after the Parahhelion. But that"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "data won't even be available until"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "February of next year or 2026, or as a"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "lot of people like to say, 3 months to"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "decide what we're allowed to see. After"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "all the detailed analysis, at this"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "point, the question isn't whether it"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "will emerge in December. The question is"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "what will emerge? Now, at the time of"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "recording this, right, the supposed date"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "is December 1st, but if you're watching"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "this in the future, I'm sure that will"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "be updated and changed. I need you to"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "understand that this is potentially the"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "most monitored celestial event in human"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "history. And there's a reason for that."}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "December of this year, 2025, would be"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "the perfect time for what researchers"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "call a controlled revelation. The object"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "has been in the news for months. The"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "public has been slowly prepared for the"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "possibility that it might be artificial."}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "And scientists have already introduced"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "the idea of alien probes. I mean, if the"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "government wanted to disclose the"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "existence of extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "technology, this would be the ideal"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "opportunity. They wouldn't have to admit"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "to decades of cover-ups. They could just"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "act as surprised as everyone else. Or"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "they could go in the other direction."}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "complete denial. No matter what the"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "telescopes see in December, officials"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "could insist it's natural, a weird"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "comet. And who could prove otherwise?"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "December of this year might be the most"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "important month in human history, or it"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "might turn out to be nothing at all. And"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "because you guys made it to the end, I"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "really wanted to make this video a"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "little bit different than what I"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "normally do. Because new details keep"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "emerging. I mean, even up to today as"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "I'm writing and recording this, it's"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "going to have to be something we all"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "watch closely. Instead of having you"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "guys comment something silly below, I"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "would love for you to comment and tell"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "me what you guys think this object is."}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "Is it simply just a comet or an asteroid"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "and that people are just blowing this"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "out of proportion? Or is there something"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "far more sinister going on behind the"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "scenes? And really, the government, the"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "entire world government system is"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "preparing the public for what's about to"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "change everything. We're not sure. Let"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "me know what you think below. As always,"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "I love you guys. Keep an open mind and"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "I'll see you all in the very next"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "episode."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "On a spring morning in 1647, a man named"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "Giovani Abella made his way into a dark"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "cave on the island of Malta. He wasn't"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "the first person to explore this cavern."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "Locals had been using these caverns for"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "shelter and storage for a very long"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "time. But Giovani was very busy. He was"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "writing a book, The First Real History"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "of Malta, and he was adamant that he"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "documented everything about this island."}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "One thing he noted when he first entered"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "was how much cooler the cave was than"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "the air on the outside. And he kind of"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "had to duck his head around as he moved"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "deeper into the cavern. But a little"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "ways in to his shock, he noticed things"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "that were completely out of place. The"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "first thing was that there was this"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "large white structure that was being"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "used as a beam across a cottage doorway"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "near the cave entrance. Someone had"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "taken this bone and turned it into"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "architecture. When Giovani examined it"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "more closely, he realized why. The"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "single bone was massive and longer and"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "thicker than any human bone he had ever"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "seen. And after going deeper into the"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "cave, he found more teeth with the"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "thickness of his finger and over an inch"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "long. There were skulls that seemed very"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "unusually large. And there were more"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "bones scattered than the dirt, which"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "suggested whatever these belong to were"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "of substantial size. But Giovani wasn't"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "easily fooled, right? He knew his"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "classics, his Greek mythology. And when"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "he was standing in that cave just"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "looking at all of these massive remains,"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "the thing that came to his mind seemed"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "like the only logical conclusion in that"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "moment that the bones he was looking at"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "all around him had to have been bones of"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "a cyclops, the oneeyed giants from Greek"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "mythology. When I research lost history,"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "buried evidence, you know, stories"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "nobody wants to talk about, I realize"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "how hard it can be just to find the"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "truth. Honestly, that feeling isn't that"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "different from trying to find the right"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "doctor. I mean, you'd think it would be"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "simple, but between finding someone who"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "can take your insurance and getting an"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "appointment that's not 3 months away,"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "endlessly waiting on hold, it can feel"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "like navigating some of these cases,"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "confusing, and just full of dead ends."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "But that's why I started using today's"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "sponsor, Zachdoc. Zdoc is a free website"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "where you can search and compare"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "highquality in-et network doctors."}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "Choose the right one for your needs and"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "click to instantly book an appointment."}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "From mental health to dentistry, eye"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "care, skincare, and everything in"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "between. Plus, with tons of verified"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "patient reviews and detailed doctor"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "profiles, I mean, you can get a real"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "sense of the provider and their practice"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "before you ever step into the office."}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "The best part is you can see the"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "doctor's actual appointment openings."}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "Choose a time that works for you and"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "then click to instantly book a visit."}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "Appointments also happen fast. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "typically within just 24 to 72 hours of"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "booking, you could sometimes score same"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "day appointments. You don't even have to"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "talk to anyone. Just book with a few"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "clicks. It's that easy. Stop waiting."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "Stop guessing. Don't make the process"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "harder than it needs to be. Go to"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "zdock.com/beneath."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "I'll leave it right there at the top of"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "the description and find and instantly"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "book a top rated in network doctor"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "today. Thank you, Zdoc, for sponsoring"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "this video. Now, there's something"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "important to note about Malta, and that"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "all across these islands were these"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "huge, massive temples. And there were"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "structures that nobody really"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "understood. The one at Gigantia on the"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "island of Goo was made from limestone"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "blocks so enormous that people had given"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "up trying to explain how humans could"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "have possibly built it. And in fact,"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "literally meant place of giants in"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "Maltese. And so for generations, people"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "had been telling stories about how"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "giants named Sansuna had built these"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "temples carrying the massive stones on"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "their shoulders like they weighed"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "nothing. When Giovani published his book"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "later that year, he included this very"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "discovery. Giant bones found in"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "Maltese's caves. Proof finally that the"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "old stories about giants were actually"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "true and he himself had witnessed them."}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "And for the next 250 years, his"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "discovery became a crucial part of"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "Malta's identity. Whenever European"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "antiquarians visited the islands, people"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "would tell them about the giant bones,"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "and some would even go looking for more,"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "and they'd find them in caves like the"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "Gardum scattered among the rocks. Big"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "bones, massive teeth. All of it seemed"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "to just confirm what Giovani had written"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "many years ago. People were convinced."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "Now, by the 1900s, archaeologists had"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "identified at least 30 megalithic temple"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "sites all across Malta and Goo. These"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "were beyond just simple structures. The"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "walls reached 6 m high in some places,"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "and the individual stones themselves"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "weighed about 20 tons. And a lot of"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "people realized that they were older"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "than Stonehenge and older than the"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "Egyptian pyramids. Which means that a"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "lot of people at the time had a really"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "hard time rationalizing this because"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "they would just say, \"Well, how could"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "people barely out of the stone age have"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "created such massive blocks and knew how"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "to build with them?\" Everyone around the"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "area knew the answer, or at least they"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "thought they did. On a cloudy morning in"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "1902 in Palo Malta, a man was starting"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "his descent into the lip of a fresh cut"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "hole the construction crew had opened in"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "the street. And as he lowered himself"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "over the edge, he felt his boots find a"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "ledge. And then he went down and"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "descended further and further. And at"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "this point, as he's getting deeper, his"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "lamp starts hissing and the air becomes"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "noticeably cooler and very still. and"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "the walls become close and curve where"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "straight lines would have been a lot"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "easier. And he reaches out and he runs"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "his hand along the limestone. And he"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "could feel the peck marks where someone"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "very long ago had carved all of this by"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "hand. He's amazed, but he continues"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "moving forward. And the space around him"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "actually opens up into a chamber,"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "followed by several more chambers and"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "then into a passage that curves around."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "And eventually he finds a stair cut into"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "the rock and is now three levels deep."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "Here he can see that there are many"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "rooms of all varying sizes. And he's"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "just simply blown away by what he's"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "seeing. The shelves and the pits in"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "these rooms were completely full of"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "bones. I mean, we're talking everywhere."}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "He realized that as he looked at the"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "remains of all these men, women, and"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "children that he couldn't possibly count"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "them all. there were just simply too"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "many all jumbled together. But he did"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "have an idea. So he went over to the"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "small little area and he thoroughly"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "counted the remains in that one spot and"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "he figured that based on the sheer size"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "of the complex and you know just the"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "density of the bones that he was looking"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "at that he was looking at around 7,000"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "people. But there was something else"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "very strange about the entire burial"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "complex. The skulls themselves looked"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "funny. You know, he carefully picked one"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "up and he noticed that it was unusually"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "long and narrow and it would stretch"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "back further than a normal human skull"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "would. Thinking it was just a simple"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "deformity, he picked up another and"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "another. He soon realized they were all"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "this way. He was holding the skulls to a"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "whole race of long-headed people. Or so"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "that's what it seemed like. And the"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "weirdest of all was this one particular"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "skull. He found that he realized"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "something was missing. The sagittal"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "suture, which is the seam that runs down"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "the very middle of every human skull. On"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "the one that was currently in his hands,"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "it didn't exist. This was a single solid"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "piece of bone. At the time, he had never"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "seen anything like it. In this moment,"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "it was evident that this did not belong"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "to a human being. Now, this guy wasn't"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "just some Joe Schmo. This was a trained"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "medical doctor. And in fact, he was more"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "than that. He was actually Malta's"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "leading archaeologist. His name was Sir"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "the Mysticles Zamit and was a very"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "respected man of science. This evidence"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "of a lost race could have potentially"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "changed all of history. But with it, he"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "opened a can of worms. Fast forward to"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "the early 1930s. A young boy named"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "Jonathan was ecstatic to be taking a"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "field trip with his friends to the hypo"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "jam. He'd heard about the stories, you"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "know, about the underground temples and"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "the bones, and he just couldn't wait to"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "see it for himself. So, he held his"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "friend's hand tightly as their teacher"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "led the line of children away from the"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "bright malty sun and down the stone cut"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "steps into the cool, damp, dark of the"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "earth. The air around all the kids"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "changed immediately. It became cold and"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "smelled of wet rock and just old earth."}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "And the entire time all the children had"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "trouble understanding the guide's voice"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "as it reverberated off all the stone."}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "But when they could understand him,"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "their minds were being blown by learning"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "about those who had carved these"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "chambers thousands of years ago. After"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "some time, they moved down to the second"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "chamber, and that's where they saw the"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "strange red ochre paintings on the walls"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "and the dark, mysterious openings that"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "led to the other chambers. As the main"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "group moved on, following the guide"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "deeper into the labyrinth, a few of the"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "children and one of their teachers"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "reportedly hung back. The guide was"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "pointing at something in the main"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "chamber, and his back was turned. And at"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "that moment, one of Jonathan's friends"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "tugged on his sleeve and pointed to a"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "dark opening off to the side. A narrow"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "passage that wasn't on the official"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "tour. It was just a crack in the rock,"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "but it seemed to go somewhere. The"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "teacher was hesitant at first, but the"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "kids were curious and they promised that"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "they'd only take a quick peek. The"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "teacher, maybe wanting to be the cool"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "teacher, nodded and explained to them"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "that if they're quick, they can do it."}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "And so while the rest of the class was"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "distracted, the teacher, Jonathan, and a"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "few other children slipped away from the"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "main path and they went over to the"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "opening and one by one, they squeezed"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "inside. Once inside, they realized the"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "tunnel was much more narrow than the"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "main corridors, and the walls were a lot"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "rougher. The light from the main chamber"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "disappeared almost immediately, and all"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "they had were the weak beams of their"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "flashlights. They took a few steps, took"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "a few more, and they were only supposed"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "to look for a second, but something"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "seemed to be drawing them deeper in."}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "Suddenly, they heard a low rumble. It"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "was quiet at first, but it began to grow"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "in volume, and then it began vibrating"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "through the stone floor, and soon the"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "ground beneath them was shaking. The"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "children stopped, looked back, but they"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "had to squint because the only light was"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "coming from their flashlight beams. And"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "before they could discern what it was,"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "they heard this loud crash. And when"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "they realized what it was, they were"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "convinced they were going to die. The"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "opening was gone. And that crashing"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "sound was a rock behind them, shifting"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "as it fell. They all turned and ran"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "back, screaming, shining their lights on"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "a solid wall of rock where the passage"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "used to be. The teacher did his best,"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "frantically pushing against the stone,"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "but it didn't move. It was evident there"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "was no way back. They were trapped at"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "least a mile underground and a tunnel"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "that according to official maps didn't"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "exist. And that was the last anyone ever"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "saw of Jonathan, his teacher, or the"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "other children. A frantic search was"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "launched when the main tour group"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "surfaced and realized they were missing."}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "You had rescuers going back down into"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "the hypog searching every known chamber"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "and passage, but they couldn't find any"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "trace of this group. The tunnel that"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "they had supposedly entered couldn't be"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "located as if it had never been there at"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "all. And in the aftermath, the"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "government officially sealed off many of"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "the deeper, unexplored entrances to the"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "labyrinth. The official story became"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "that nothing had happened. Even for"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "weeks afterwards, the parents of the"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "missing children gathered at the"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "entrance and they swore to anyone who"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "would listen that they could hear the"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "faint, desperate whales of children"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "crying from deep beneath the ground. And"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "one day, the crying just stopped"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "altogether. Officials deny that this"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "ever happened because of the lack of"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "reporting. But where did a story this"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "specific and terrifying come from? A"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "story so wellknown that it was reported"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "as fact in one of the most respected"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "magazines in the world, National"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "Geographic. Disturbingly, why did so"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "many mothers for weeks on end claim to"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "hear the same crying sounds coming from"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "underground? Around the same time, a"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "woman named Lois Jessup was working at"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "the British embassy in Malta and had"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "decided to take a guided tour of the"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "Hypo GM. The entire time she was on the"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "tour, she was convinced that there was"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "something more to this place. Something"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "that was hidden just out of sight, but"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "she wasn't sure what. So on this guided"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "tour, she kind of hung back from the"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "rest of the group. And at one point, she"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "actually went up to the tour guide and"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "started asking him if there's anything"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "else here, anything off the books that"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "she could look into. Obviously, he was"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "very hesitant and just flat out told her"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "no, but it didn't stop her persistence."}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "And I guess after some convincing, he"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "finally motioned for her to follow him."}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "He led her away from the main path to"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "the small little unassuming hole in the"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "wall near the lowest level. It turns out"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "it was a crawl space, a tight one. He"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "just explained to her that he couldn't"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "go with her, but he would allow her to"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "look for herself. Lois Jessup lit her"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "only candle and then she got down on her"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "hands and knees and started to crawl"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "into this tight dark passage. Now the"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "only light she had was from her little"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "flickering candle flame which didn't"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "allow her to see much. And at times the"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "passage got so tight that her shoulders"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "were scraping against the rocks on both"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "sides. After getting through some pretty"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "tight spots that she didn't think she"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "would make it out of, the passage"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "finally opened up. And as she crawled"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "out and stood up, she realized that she"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "was in a vast hidden cavern that she"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "hadn't seen on the tour. The one she was"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "standing in was all natural and was"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "clearly not carved by human hands. I"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "mean, it was huge. And in front of her,"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "the floor kind of just dropped away into"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "a deep black chasm. And in that moment,"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "she did her best to hold her candle up"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "just to try to see anything she could"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "about the cave, but she could barely"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "make out this ledge that was maybe 15 ft"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "away. All of a sudden, she decided to"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "stop and listen because she was pretty"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "sure she could hear a noise from close"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "by, and it was this very faint shuffling"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "sound. Assuming that there was someone"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "else in the cave with her, she adjusted"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "her candle flame as best she could so"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "she can try and see better. These"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "figures emerged from a dark passageway"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "on the far ledge. They were huge from"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "what she could tell in that little bit"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "of light and covered head to toe in very"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "matted thick hair, not like animals or"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "an ape. They were walking just like you"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "and I. And immediately she went into"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "panic because it was evident that these"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "were not human beings. And it was also"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "evident that they weren't animals."}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "Honestly, she wasn't sure what they"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "were. But as a thousand thoughts were"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "racing through her mind, these things"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "raised their arms toward her. And in"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "that same instant, this violent"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "unnatural wind blew through the chamber"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "and it actually came from their"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "direction and it completely snuffed out"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "her only flame. Bam. Within a second,"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "she's plunged into complete darkness and"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "it goes completely silent. and she felt"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "something wet and slick brush past her"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "leg. Realizing she needed to do her best"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "to stay calm, she didn't scream. She"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "just quickly and efficiently, as best"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "she could, of course, scrambled"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "backwards on all fours. And it was"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "increasingly difficult because her hands"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "were just slapping against wet cold"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "stone, doing her best to search for the"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "opening she came through. But the entire"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "time she realized that the animals or"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "things she saw were now getting closer."}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "She could hear them and she begins to"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "lose her composure and she panics. All"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "the while she's continually frantically"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "searching for the opening that she can't"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "find. And suddenly her hand found the"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "edge of the passage and as hard as she"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "could she pulled herself through."}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "Although she scraped her knees pretty"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "badly in the process. She crawled as"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "fast as she could back to safety. When"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "she came out the other end where the"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "guide had let her go through, he was"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "gone. Already shaking, terrified, and"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "confused, she wasn't really sure where"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "to go or who to talk to. Strangely, when"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "she tried to look for the guide who had"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "allowed her to go in, there was no one"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "under that name that worked there. In"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "fact, nobody even recognized this person"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "as she described their appearance. Later"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "on, when she tried to talk to the staff"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "about this chamber, they just told her"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "that she was crazy and that nothing like"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "that exists anywhere in the cave. Jessup"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "didn't tell this story publicly at"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "first. It actually circulated privately"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "among her friends. But by the 1960s, it"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "was being published in paranormal"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "magazines, and by the ' 70s, it was in"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "books about ancient mysteries. And while"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "that's another piece of the puzzle,"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "something was happening with those long"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "skulls at the museum. In 1985, the"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "National Museum closed for renovation."}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "The skulls along with the other"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "artifacts were removed from display."}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "Museum officials claimed that they were"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "being put in storage for safekeeping"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "during the construction, but the skulls"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "never came back. Historians like Anton"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "Myiffs started asking questions like,"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "\"Where were the elongated skulls? Why"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "weren't they back on the display when"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "the museum had reopened?\" Mysud himself"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "had photographed and measured the skulls"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "in the 1980s before they vanished and"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "began suggesting that maybe they'd been"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "hidden deliberately, that maybe someone"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "didn't want the public to see the"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "evidence that challenged conventional"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "history and thinking. By the 2000s, the"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "internet had turned Malta's giants into"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "a global phenomenon. Websites dedicated"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "to ancient mysteries posted articles"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "about the missing elongated skulls. They"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "connected them to the giant bones in the"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "caves, to the temples, to the vanished"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "school children. While some suggested"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "the long-headed people were aliens or"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "the biblical Nephilim, the Maltese"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "heritage authorities had actually been"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "trying to answer these questions for"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "years, but nobody seemed to be listening"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "until in 2016 they addressed the"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "speculation. Their official response was"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "that the giant bones Giovani Abella"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "described in 1647, the ones that had"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "convinced generations that giants once"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "walked their islands weren't human at"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "all. They were elephant bones. But not"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "just any dwarf elephants, actually."}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "Because during the ice age, when sea"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "levels were lower, elephants had walked"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "from Sicily to Malta. And once sea"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "levels rose and malts became isolated,"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "these elephants were said to have"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "evolved to be much smaller. But dwarf"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "elephant skulls have a large central"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "nasal cavity where the trunk attaches."}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "To someone who's never seen an elephant"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "skull before, that cavity looks exactly"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "like a single eye socket. A giant single"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "eye socket. The massive bones Giovani"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "found were dwarf elephant femurss. The"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "giant teeth were elephant mers. The bone"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "being used as a door beam was probably a"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "dwarf elephant's leg bone. In fact,"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "every bone found in caverns over the"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "centuries was supposedly from these"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "extinct elephants or from the pygmy"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "hippos that also once lived on the"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "islands. Archaeologists had figured that"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "there was this simple connection and"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "that people were getting everything"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "wrong, specifically with the temples,"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "that the Neolithic Maltes hadn't needed"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "to be giants. They just needed to be"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "clever. Using wooden rollers, ropes, and"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "earn ramps, a team of 50 men could move"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "a 20 ton block. It would take time and"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "effort, sure, but it was possible."}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "They'd concluded that the temples were"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "built by normalsized people, humans who"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "were probably shorter than most of us."}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "And the 7,000 skeletons that were found"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "in the hypog, well, that number was"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "never real. Mr. Zamant had found"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "fragments of maybe a 100 individuals."}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "The 7,000 were a rough estimate of how"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "many people could have been buried there"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "over centuries of use. It just so"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "happens that journalists had turned his"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "speculation into fact. Even the"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "elongated skulls with missing sutures"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "were real, but there was nothing alien"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "about them. They were just variations in"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "human skull shape. People from the"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "Mediterranean and the Neolithic period"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "tended to have longer skulls. It's like"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "how some people today have round faces"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "and others have oval faces. As for the"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "missing suture, they wrote it off as a"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "condition called cranioinostosis."}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "It happens sometimes. The bone plates of"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "the skull fuse early. It's unusual, but"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "it does happen. As far as the missing"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "skulls from 1985, the Heritage Malta"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "still had them, and they'd been in"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "storage the entire time. In fact, one"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "had actually stayed on display at the"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "Hypo GM site museum throughout the"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "entire coverup period. It's just that"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "the museum renovation had simply taken"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "longer than expected, and nobody had"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "thought to make a big announcement about"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "skulls in storage boxes. The Heritage"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "Malta searched extensively through"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "newspapers, police records, and"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "government documents from the 1930s."}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "There was no reports of missing"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "children, no teachers vanishing, no"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "parents ever reporting their kids gone,"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "and no news stories about a tragedy at"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "the Hypo GM. All of it appeared to be"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "invented by a National Geographic writer"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "looking for a spooky story during"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "wartime. In 2019, a bioarchchaeologist"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "named Ronica Power got funding to do a"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "DNA analysis on the hypogm remains. The"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "preliminary results were exactly what"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "you'd expect. The people buried in the"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "hypo were normal Neolithic farmers,"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "genetically similar to the people from"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "Sicily. And every few years, someone"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "claims to have found new evidence. A"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "10-ft skeleton on Gooo that conveniently"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "disappears before anyone can verify it."}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "A government document that proves the"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "cover up but somehow can't be produced."}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "The giants of Malta never existed. Or"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "did they? Consider the timing. Giovanni"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "Bella documented those bones in 1647."}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "For over 300 years, multiple independent"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "observers, scholars, travelers,"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "archaeologists, all reported finding"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "massive bones in these caverns. And"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "suddenly, right when modern science"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "could have definitively tested these"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "bones with DNA analysis, they're all"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "gone. Every single one. And the"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "explanation was that they were all"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "elephant bones that somehow nobody kept."}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "So, think about that. We're supposed to"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "believe that for three centuries,"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "educated people, including medical"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "doctors like Zamut, couldn't tell the"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "difference between elephant bones and"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "human bones. I mean, Zamut was a trained"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "pathologist. He knew human anatomy very"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "well. And it wasn't just him. Anton"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "Miffs photographed these elongated"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "skulls in the 80s, just before they went"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "into storage. But when Heritage Malta"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "finally displayed skulls again, were"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "they really the same ones? Miffsid says"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "no and claims the skulls now on display"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "are different, less elongated, much more"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "normallooking. The truly anomalous ones,"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "those never came back. And then what"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "about Lois Jessup? Her story does sound"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "completely fantastical and made up, but"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "keep in mind she wasn't a nobody. She"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "worked for the British Embassy and had"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "security clearance. If she had made this"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "story up for attention, then why didn't"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "she publicize it? She told only a few"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "close friends and it only became public"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "decades later. Why would someone in her"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "position make up such a story and then"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "not even try to profit from it or gain"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "from it in any way? Well, in 2015,"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "ground penetrating radar was used to map"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "the area around the Hypo GM. But the"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "results showed what researchers called"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "anomalies, void spaces that shouldn't be"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "there, according to the official maps."}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "When asked about exploring these spaces,"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "Heritage Malta just said it would be too"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "dangerous and unnecessary. Too dangerous"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "or too revealing. There's even"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "speculation regarding the missing school"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "children. Heritage Malta says there are"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "no records, and there very well might"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "not be. But absence of evidence isn't"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "the same as evidence of absence. What if"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "the records were purposefully destroyed?"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "What if the entire story was suppressed?"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "During this time in the 1930s, Malta was"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "a British colony. I mean, if something"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "strange or embarrassing happened at a"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "major archaeological site, the colonial"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "government would have every reason to"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "cover it up, wouldn't they? I mean,"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "there were multiple mothers all claiming"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "to hear the same thing, crying children"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "from underground. But that has to be"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "mass hysteria, right? That's just too"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "fantastical to accept. It seems that"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "there's some sort of pattern happening."}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "Every time there's a claim of evidence"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "found, particularly of giants, the"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "evidence conveniently disappears. The"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "bones Giovani found gone. The skulls"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "with missing sutures in storage,"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "unavailable for independent analysis."}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "The 10-foot skeleton allegedly found in"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "1985 vanished before it could ever be"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "verified. Either the Maltes are"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "incredibly careless with potentially"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "worldchanging archaeological finds, or"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "someone doesn't want these things"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "studied. The plot thickens even more"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "because Malta isn't alone. I mean all"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "around the Mediterranean there is story"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "after story of giant bones being found"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "and disappearing like in Sardinia,"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "Greece and Turkey for example. It's"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "almost like there's a hidden forbidden"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "history that the public is not allowed"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "to know that we are to accept the"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "history that we've been given and to not"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "question it. Of course, I'm not telling"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "you any of this as fact. This is all"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "just speculation, right? We're just"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "dialoguing, asking questions. But what"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "if there really was a race of giants?"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "And what if they really did build"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "temples? And what if for some reason"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "someone has been systematically"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "suppressing this evidence for decades?"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "In 2019, when Ronica P's team started"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "their DNA analysis, they announced they"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "would publish their full results within"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "2 years. Well, it's now 2025. Where are"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "they? The preliminary findings said the"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "bones were normal Neolithic farmers, but"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "preliminary findings aren't final"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "results. What did they find that they're"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "not telling us? Here's one last thing to"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "consider. The Hypog is a UNESCO World"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "Heritage site, which means that any"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "major discovery there would have massive"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "implications. We're talking scientific,"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "historical, even political. If evidence"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "of some unknown human species or a lost"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "civilization was found, who would"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "control that information? Who would"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "decide what the public gets to know?"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "More importantly, what would be the"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "reasoning for suppressing that"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "information? Could it be because it"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "would completely rewrite human history"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "as we know it and cause complete"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "distrust in all world governments and"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "science? I'm merely just giving you guys"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "information. You need to come to your"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "own conclusions. Now, the giants of"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "Malta might not have existed, but when"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "evidence keeps disappearing, when"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "stories keep getting suppressed, when"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "officials keep saying nothing to see"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "here, while refusing to let anyone look,"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "that's when you have to start to wonder."}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "While the official explanation is that"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "they didn't exist, are they being"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "completely honest with us? I'd love to"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "hear your thoughts on the matter below"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "in the comments. And because you guys"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "made it this far, I want you to all"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "comment down below Maltese giants. So"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "that way I know who made it to the end"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "and who didn't. And if you guys enjoy"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "content like this where we deep dive"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "into strange cases of the mysterious and"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "supernatural, what are you waiting for?"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "Smack that like and subscribe button"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "right now for more content just like"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "this. As always, I love you all. Keep an"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "open mind and I'll see you all in the"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "very next episode."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "John's laying there in his sleeping bag"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "in the middle of nowhere, Nebraska, when"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "he hears it. Something massive moving"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "through their campsite. This isn't a"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "raccoon. This isn't even a bear."}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "Whatever's out there is walking on two"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "legs. Three different states, four"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "separate accounts, all describing the"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "exact same thing. The government calls"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "these reports misidentified wildlife."}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "But when you see the footage captured by"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "different witnesses, you'll realize"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "we're dealing with something else"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "entirely. Something that's been watching"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "us all along. On the evening of April"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "14th, 2019, John and two friends were at"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "an overnight camping trip in a remote"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "corner of Nebraska. They driven out to"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "this spot specifically because it was"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "known for having some pretty good"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "fishing, and they were planning on"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "spending a few days just relaxing by the"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "water, catching fish, and enjoying being"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "away from civilization. The three"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "friends had set up their individual"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "tents in a small clearing about 50 yards"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "away from the lake and had spent most of"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "that first day fishing and hanging"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "around their campfire. So, by the time"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "night fell, they were all pretty tired"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "from the long drive and their day of"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "activities. So, they decided to turn in"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "relatively early. Each of them crawled"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "into their own tent, zipped up, and"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "settled in for a peaceful night's sleep."}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "But around 1:00 in the morning, Jon was"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "suddenly jolted awake by this strange"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "noise. It sounded like something was"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "moving around their campsite. And at"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "first, he was kind of groggy and"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "disoriented. But as he lay there"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "listening, he could tell that whatever"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "was out there was big. And I mean really"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "big. The way it was moving through their"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "camp and knocking things around,"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "stepping on stuff. This wasn't just a"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "raccoon or a possum. It had to be"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "something of substantial size. He's"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "laying there in his sleeping bag and"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "he's just thinking that this has got to"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "be a bear. I mean, northern Nebraska has"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "bears and they're out in the middle of"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "nowhere. They're near water and they've"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "been fishing all day, right? Those are"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "perfect circumstances to draw on a bear."}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "But even as he's convincing himself of"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "this, he's starting to feel really"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "uneasy because the sounds that he's"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "hearing, these grunting, growling"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "noises, don't quite match any bear he's"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "ever heard, or any other animal for that"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "matter. Pretty soon, the noises are loud"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "enough that they wake up the other two"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "friends in their tents, too. And so now"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "all three of them are lying in their"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "separate shelters, wide awake, listening"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "to this large animal shuffling around"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "their campsite. And of course, they're"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "all thinking the same thing, right? It's"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "got to be a bear. But there's just"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "things that aren't adding up. This goes"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "on for like 20 or 30 minutes and then"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "suddenly it just stops entirely and they"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "can't hear any more sounds. And so Jon"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "quietly gets up, slowly unzips his tent,"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "and he pokes his head around to get a"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "look. But it's so dark that he can't see"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "anything. but he can't hear where this"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "large animal has gone either. But it"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "looks like the coast is clear. So he"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "climbs out of his tent and quickly goes"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "over to where his friends are sleeping."}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "And he just kind of gently taps the side"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "of the tent to get their attention. And"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "he whispers to them that he thinks"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "whatever it was has moved on, but that"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "they should all get up and stay awake"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "for a while just in case. He just"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "doesn't feel great about it. His friends"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "all agree. So, all three of them climb"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "out of their tents and gather around the"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "campfire, which by now is pretty much"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "just glowing embers. So, the first thing"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "they decide to do is to add more wood to"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "the fire to get it started again. And"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "they figure having a big fire going will"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "help keep whatever it is out there at a"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "distance. And once that's done, they"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "then sat around the fire and discussed"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "what they had heard. And even as they"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "reassured each other, they were still"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "pretty spooked. And after sitting out"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "there for a while, they start getting"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "drowsy and, you know, and getting ready"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "to head back to sleep. And suddenly from"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "off to the left, there's this incredible"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "noise. And I'm talking extremely loud,"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "like a massive tree falling over. All"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "three of them spin around toward the"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "sound, but they can't see a thing beyond"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "the light of the fire. And all three of"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "them hear movement in the brush, maybe"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "30 or 40 ft away from them. And suddenly"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "they hear this deep angry growl coming"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "from the darkness. Whatever it came from"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "was intentionally keeping away from the"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "light of the fire like it didn't want to"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "be seen. All three of them realized that"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "the animal that this growl came out of"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "did not sound at all like a bear. It was"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "so much deeper and throatier and so"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "completely petrified by this. One of the"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "friends runs back into his tent, grabs"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "his handgun. I mean, he wasn't messing"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "around. It was a welcome sight by all."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "They realized pretty quickly that they"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "would need a lot more than a measly 9 mm"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "to survive because from not far away"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "comes a long howling noise, but this one"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "is much more powerful than any normal"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "howl. Thinking quickly, they start"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "immediately building up their fire even"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "more and just throwing as much wood on"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "they can to just get it big and bright"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "and roaring. and they grab their powered"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "lanterns and they turn them all on,"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "placing them strategically around the"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "perimeter of the camp just to try and"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "create this dome of light. Not only do"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "they want to stay safe in the light, but"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "they want to be able to get enough light"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "cast out that they can see whatever this"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "thing is if it does decide to come any"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "closer. But despite all the light that"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "they've created, their stalker doesn't"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "seem discouraged. They could still hear"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "it moving around out there just circling"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "back and forth. And sometimes it would"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "be on one side and then moments later"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "they'd hear it on the complete opposite"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "side without ever hearing it go around."}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "It was clearly stalking them and testing"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "their defenses, maybe waiting for the"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "right opportunity. Realizing this, Jon"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "and his unarmed friend grab some thick"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "tree limbs to use as clubs. They then"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "form a small circle around their fire"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "with their backs to it so they could be"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "ready in case they were to be ambushed."}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "This entire time they don't see any"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "movement or anything in the dark. Toby,"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "one of the friends who's holding a large"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "branch, suddenly freezes as he's looking"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "off to his right. Now, Jon immediately"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "notices and asks if he's okay. But Toby"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "doesn't answer right away. And Jon"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "realizes that whatever Toby is looking"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "at is now just beyond the reach of the"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "fire. And a moment later, Toby finally"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "seems to snap out of it. And he turns to"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "his friends and just tells them there's"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "something right there. but he's"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "struggling because his voice is shaky"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "and he's very scared. He tells what he"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "thinks it might be, but none of his"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "friends have a clue what on earth he's"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "talking about. It was very obvious. He"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "was struggling to find the words to"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "describe what he saw. However, none of"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "them believed what he suggested, but"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "Toby was incredibly insistent and was"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "like, \"Guys, I know what it is we're"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "dealing with here. It's the only thing"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "that makes sense.\" And as soon as he"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "said this, he realized that the thing"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "off to his right wasn't there anymore."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "And then came the grunting sounds and"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "the growling and the howling still"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "extremely close by. And in fact, John"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "later recounted that these sounds were"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "so strange that it kind of sounded like"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "whatever this animal was was trying to"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "communicate with them. But by this"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "point, all of them were feeling pretty"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "grim about the situation because they"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "had no idea what animal they were up"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "against. They had never dealt with"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "something like this before, and the only"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "thing they could do was keep their backs"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "to the fire and keep their perimeter"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "defended. After this continued on for"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "about another 10 minutes, this animal"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "began to get closer to the fire light"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "enough to where Jon could actually start"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "to see it. One of Jon's friends saw this"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "and started going into a fullblown"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "panic. He immediately fired a shot into"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "the ground near where this thing was"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "standing. And as soon as that happened,"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "this animal jumped backwards into the"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "dark and John and his friends could hear"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "it kind of scurrying away and they could"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "hear it crashing through the underbrush"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "and it moving away from them. But it"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "only lasted a few seconds because then"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "all the sounds stopped. It was evident"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "right then and there that this retreat"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "wasn't an escape attempt. It was still"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "out there and waiting for the right"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "opportunity to come back. They weighed"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "their options and kicked the idea around"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "of leaving right then and there. But the"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "idea that this unknown predator could be"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "very close frightened them. With very"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "limited light, it would be like walking"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "into a death trap. And they realized"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "their best course of action would just"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "be to keep an eye out, make it through"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "the night, and once they had daylight on"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "their side and they could see, then they"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "would leave. So, of course, it's no"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "surprise that sleep did not come. But"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "they took all the proper precautions."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "They kept their fire built up as high as"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "they possibly could, their guns at the"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "ready, and sure enough, whatever animal"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "this was came back and continued"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "prowling around. And sometimes when they"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "listened really closely, they could hear"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "it coming so close that they could hear"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "its breathing like it was watching their"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "every movement, just waiting for the"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "right moment to strike. In what felt"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "like a night of living hell, dawn"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "finally came. Now, with the sun shining"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "brightly, there were no strange noises"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "or sounds or any evidence that this"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "large animal was nearby, but they didn't"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "take time to thoroughly investigate."}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "They used it as an opportunity to get"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "the heck out of dodge. The animal that"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "Jon and his two friends saw was most"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "certainly not a bear. At least, it"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "didn't look like it. What they described"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "was a very large bipeedal wolf, seven to"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "seven and a half feet tall, covered in"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "white and gray fur, complete with a pair"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "of pointed ears and reflecting yellowish"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "eyes. It was evident that this clearly"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "wasn't someone in a costume. The"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "incredible muscle mass of this animal"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "was like that of a bodybuilder. The arms"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "hung past down the knees and had what"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "appeared to be actual hands with"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "fingers, each one ending in long black"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "curved claws. not paws but actual hands"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "with fingers and your eyes naturally go"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "down right of the torso they could see"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "that like a canine its torso tapered"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "down at its waist and even the back legs"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "were hawkjointed like a dogs. Now when"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "Toby tried to explain to Jon and their"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "other friend what he was pretty sure"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "this was he believed they had"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "encountered a dog man. But unfortunately"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "what they really encountered that night"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "will remain a mystery. Similarly, years"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "ago, another camper had an equally"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "terrifying experience. On the night of"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "February 2nd, 2004, a man named Michael"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "Lacoma was camping near Fresno alone. He"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "found a nice little spot in the"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "wilderness to set up. But at some point"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "during the night, when everything was"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "quiet, he began hearing strange noises"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "right up the slope behind his tent. The"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "sounds were similar to something like"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "rumaging around, but it was very close"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "to his camp. Michael decided to"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "investigate. He grabbed his camera and"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "stepped outside and scanned the ridge,"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "but instantly he saw it. And from where"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "he could tell, it almost looked like a"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "dog, except it was way too large, so"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "that didn't make any sense. The video he"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "captured may be brief, but if it's"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "genuine footage, it is completely"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "terrifying. Unfortunately, he shot this"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "video with a haird dryer, but hey, it"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "was filmed in 2004. Whatever Michael"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "captured on camera seems to show a dark"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "figure coming down the slope and it's"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "clearly bounding back and forth. Now,"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "Fresno is a long way from Nebraska, but"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "the point still stands that if something"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "like this can exist in California, then"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "there's no reason it couldn't exist in a"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "less densely populated state like"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "Nebraska. 12 years later, in the early"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "morning hours of October 5th, 2016, two"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "brothers named Charlie and Michael were"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "waiting for the school bus to arrive in"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "Douglas County, Nebraska. Because of the"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "time of year, it wasn't quite morning"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "yet. It was still pretty dark out. But"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "for these two, the bus stop was only"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "like three blocks away from their house,"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "so this was very routine for them. Mike,"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "the older brother, was lost in thought"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "about a test that he had that day when"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "he noticed that something was out of"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "place. His younger brother was usually a"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "lot more talkative in the mornings,"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "basically just yapping his ear off. But"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "today, he was unusually silent. And so"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "when Mike looked over to see what was"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "wrong because he could sense there was"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "something wrong with Charlie, his"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "brother appeared physically shaken by"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "something. And he was just non-stop"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "staring down the street into what little"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "light was crusting above the horizon."}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "And so Mike looked at Charlie for a"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "second, very confused, and he reached"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "out and shook Charlie's shoulder, being"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "like, \"What's wrong, dude? Like, what"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "what's the issue?\" Almost out of panic,"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "Charlie shushed him, but never took his"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "eyes off the horizon, what Michael"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "thought he was staring at. This was"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "obviously very strange. And now Mike was"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "a little freaked out by this. And so he"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "turned to look in the same direction his"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "brother was, trying to figure out what"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "the heck he was looking at. And when he"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "looked, he didn't see anything. So he's"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "like, \"Okay, my brother's either playing"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "a trick on me or something.\" But right"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "as he's getting ready to turn to face"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "his brother and call him out for pulling"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "a prank, he sees movement about a 100"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "yards down the road, right at the edge"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "of the tree line where there are street"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "lights. He's still very confused as to"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "why his brother's acting paranoid about"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "a deer over here. And so he starts to"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "focus on the spot and he's squinting to"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "try and make out what kind of deer it"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "is. and he's convinced it's probably a"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "big large buck or something. But as Mike"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "continued to watch, he started to see"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "more and more movement and he realized"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "that what they were watching was not a"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "deer. Whatever animal this was was"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "actually on two legs and was very large."}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "And within about 2 seconds, this animal"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "sprints across the road and then quickly"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "vanishes between two houses on the"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "opposite side. Just like that, it's"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "gone. And both brothers were just"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "completely terrified by what they saw."}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "They didn't really say anything to each"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "other. I mean, what was there to say?"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "They just kept scanning the darkness,"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "hoping that whatever it was did not come"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "toward them, even though the bus would"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "only be there in a few moments. As soon"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "as the bus showed up and the door swung"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "open, they both practically flew in and"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "took their seats faster than any of"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "their friends had ever seen. They were"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "clearly spooked, but they didn't really"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "want to talk about it. And the entire"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "time, both brothers were just staring"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "out the window intently. They were"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "convinced that this thing was going to"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "come and attack the bus, or at least"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "follow them to the school. The brother,"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "who would later retell this account, was"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "thoroughly convinced that based on what"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "they both saw, it had to have been a"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "dogman. The account was eventually"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "submitted to the North American Dogman"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "Project, where hundreds of other"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "eyewitnesses have submitted their own"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "accounts, recordings, and photos. Fast"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "forward 4 years later in 2020 at the"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "very southern tip of Texas down by the"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "Mexico border in a place called San"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "Bonito, a man named Reuben and his"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "friend were out fishing for alligator"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "gar. And you know how it is when you're"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "out there fishing. I mean, sure, you"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "want to catch some fish, but you're also"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "there for the experience, right? The"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "chance to catch up with a friend or just"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "to get some peace and quiet in nature."}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "And so, Reuben and his friend are"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "chatting away. Their lines were already"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "cast into the water and they both"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "noticed something on the opposite"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "shoreline. Whatever it was seemed so"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "strange that Reuben was like, \"You know"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "what? I better document this.\" So, he"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "pulled out his phone and starts"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "recording. And strangely, he captures"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "something. Now, it looks like a large"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "dog, but then we can see this thing"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "stand up on two legs. And you can hear"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "how amazed both Reuben and his friend"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "are when this happens. Not sure what to"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "do with the footage, Reuben eventually"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "sent this to the website True Horror"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "Stories of Texas, and it's some of the"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "shakiest video you'll ever see, thanks"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "to the rough water and heavy wind. The"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "camera doesn't even pan over to the"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "figure until about 45 seconds in, and"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "once it does, it's tough to keep it in"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "frame. What's interesting is you can"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "hear how the witnesses think it's just a"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "dog at first, and you can hear their"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "amazement when it stands up. So,"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "whatever it shows, it's either a human"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "being or something else. Whether or not"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "we're seeing a crypted here or it's just"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "something more explainable is up to you"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "to decide. But for now, the mystery"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "remains. Around March of 2020, a"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "15-year-old girl named Sherry was"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "getting everything prepared for what"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "would be her perfect spring break"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "adventure. At the time, she lived with"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "her family in Omaha, Nebraska. Despite"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "dealing with some very severe insomnia"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "and anxiety, she spent a lot of her time"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "outdoors and would often go hunting and"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "hiking. A few weeks before this, her two"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "best friends, Holly, who was 16, and"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "Todd, who was 15, suggested that they go"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "on a week-long backpacking trip in the"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "Nebraska National Forest. She wanted to"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "make sure she had everything she needed"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "because this was going to be a big deal."}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "The three of them had actually been"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "hiking together for years and knew each"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "other very well, and there was just that"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "innate trust there, so they felt very"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "comfortable surviving out in the"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "wilderness alone for a whole week at a"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "time. On the morning they were supposed"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "to leave, Holly picked up Sherry and"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "Todd in her car because she had just"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "gotten her license, and they began to"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "drive and head out to the Nebraska"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "National Forest. The entire way there,"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "they went over all the things they were"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "going to do, the trails they were going"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "to go up and down and explore, and just"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "how much fun this was going to be. They"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "were still very young, so it was very"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "exciting. But because they lived several"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "hours away, they didn't arrive at the"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "trail head until later in the afternoon."}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "But this wasn't an issue. Their plan was"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "to initially hike about five or so"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "miles, then set up camp before it got"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "too dark. They all three pulled out"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "their packs and gear from the back and"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "made sure they had everything they"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "needed before heading off into the"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "forest. They could not have chosen a"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "better day to do this either. The"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "weather was perfect. You know, that nice"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "75\u00b0 with a slight breeze, and it was"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "just very peaceful. You know how hikes"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "are supposed to be. After a few hours,"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "they had already made it 5 miles down"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "the trail. Now was the time that they"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "decided to find a little clearing off"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "the trail where they could set up camp."}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "They didn't pack super heavy, though."}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "They only brought a twoerson tent and a"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "hammock. The original plan was that"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "Sherry and her friend would share the"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "tent since they were both girls and Todd"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "would sleep in the hammock. While they"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "were setting everything up, Sherry began"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "to get really anxious over her insomnia."}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "She knew that if she was in the tent"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "with her friend, well, she'd probably"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "keep her awake all night just from her"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "constant tossing and turning. And since"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "Sherry was a good friend, she didn't"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "really want to keep her up on the very"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "first night of their trip. So she's"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "like, \"Look, what if you and Todd sleep"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "in the tent and I take the hammock?\" And"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "you know, Todd was like, \"Are you sure?"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "Is that really something you want to do?"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "The hammock isn't going to be very"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "comfortable.\" But she was insistent and"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "she was like, \"The hammock will be a"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "great chance for me to get some fresh"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "air, and you know, I could rock back and"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "forth. It's fine.\" Because they were"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "running out of daylight. After they got"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "everything set up, they got a roaring"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "fire and dinner was cooked. And from"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "there, they just kind of sat around"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "talking and really enjoying the first"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "night of their camping trip together. In"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "fact, they were having such a good time"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "that before they knew it, it was already"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "2:00 in the morning. They were so amped"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "up from the day that they weren't really"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "that exhausted. But they realized that"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "at this point, they should probably try"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "and get some sleep because of, well,"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "they had a long day of hiking planned."}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "It didn't take long for Holly and Todd"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "to pass out in the tent. And of course,"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "there is Sher tucked away in the hammock"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "between the two trees. And her brain is"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "just going crazy, right? She's wired."}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "She's thinking, \"Ah crap, I got to be up"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "in the morning. We have a long day"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "tomorrow. What's going on? Come on,"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "brain. Just shut down.\" After laying"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "there thinking that for a while, she's"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "like, \"Well, okay. What if what if I"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "just lay here and I just look up at the"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "stars and maybe enjoy the swing back and"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "forth? Maybe that'll relax me.\" So, she"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "did that for about 10 or so minutes, but"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "that wasn't working. So, she's like,"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "\"You know what? If I'm going to be"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "awake, I might as well be productive."}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "Very carefully and quietly, she gets out"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "of the hammock, goes over to the fire."}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "She's like, \"Well, maybe I should build"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "it up a little more and kind of just,"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "you know, keep it going.\" She throws a"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "couple of logs on just to kind of keep"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "it low and slow. And she kind of just"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "stood there for a moment, you know,"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "really enjoying the warmth. She's trying"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "to do everything she can to help tire"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "her brain out and just put her body into"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "sleep mode. She decides that she needs"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "to go back over to the hammock to lay"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "down once and for all, and she is going"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "to go to sleep no matter what. So, as"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "she's climbing back in, she notices"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "something. The night around her has gone"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "completely silent, and she can feel her"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "anxiety welling up again, like her body"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "is reacting to something wrong. And so,"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "she starts to get more and more paranoid"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "because out of all the times she's been"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "in the forest before, you guys know"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "there's always some kind of ambient"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "noise. So to not have anything is just"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "really strange and unsettling. As these"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "thoughts are running through her mind,"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "she hears this strange sound like"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "something dragging against the side of"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "the tent. It's not quick and rushed."}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "It's very slow and deliberate, like"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "something running along the fabric. Now,"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "as she's listening very closely, she"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "realizes that it's not soft, that"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "whatever's raking across the tent is"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "hard. And so she calls out to her"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "friends asking if they're awake. She's"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "convinced they're playing a prank on her"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "or there's something seriously wrong."}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "And when there was no response from the"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "tent, she realized that her gut"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "instincts were right. It took nearly all"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "of her to keep from going into a"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "full-blown panic. The dragging sounds"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "had stopped, and she thought that maybe"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "she had just imagined it. But no sooner"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "had she thought that when something hard"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "jabbed the bottom of her hammock, and"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "immediately her whole body tenses. her"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "hand darts out toward her headlamp,"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "which is hanging on the side of the"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "hammock. And she grabs it, clicks it on,"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "and when she does that, when that beam"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "of light shoots out into the dark, she"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "sees this large hairy person standing"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "over her, freakishly tall, like eight or"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "so feet, and is clearly standing on two"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "legs, staring down at her. and the light"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "of her headlamp, she could see that this"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "thing's eyes are red and that the"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "features of the face are both wolf and"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "human. And it's got pointed ears like"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "they've been damaged or twisted and"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "these massive gnarled teeth and claws."}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "This thing looked like a killing"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "machine. Naturally, she just starts"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "screaming as loud as she can. She is"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "completely terrified. And when she does"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "this, this animal also makes a noise"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "that kind of somewhere between a scream"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "and a howl. And it's so loud and"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "visceral that Sherry was convinced that"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "she would pass out from the fear alone."}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "Now, off to her left, she hears Todd and"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "them start screaming, \"What the heck is"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "that?\" And so, she looks over and sees"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "that both of them are now out of the"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "tent, still half asleep, but are clearly"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "scared from the spectacle that's"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "happening right outside. In response to"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "this, this animal jumps straight up into"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "the tree, grabs right up above Sherry's"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "hammock, and with crazy agility starts"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "climbing limb after limb, pulling itself"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "further up the trunk into the canopy."}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "And in seconds, she's able to see more"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "details about its appearance. And she"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "saw that it had gray silverish fur, and"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "then it had this kind of black mane that"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "ran along this weird hump between its"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "shoulders and its back. They're all"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "three screaming. And so Sherry jumps up."}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "She doesn't have her shoes on and all"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "three of them run as fast as they can"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "back toward the trail. Now, keep in mind"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "that they're like four to five miles"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "away from their vehicle. So, this isn't"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "just a quick brisk walk back to the car,"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "but they're so overcome with fear and"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "adrenaline and the will to survive that"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "they don't care. They can hear noises in"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "the branches above them. And although"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "they're not sure if that thing was"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "following them, they're convinced it's"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "hunting them. Through a feat of"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "adrenaline and fear, they managed to"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "make it all the way back to their"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "vehicle. And it's unclear if they had a"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "light with them. I assume they did, but"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "they obviously left and drove all the"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "way back to Omaha right then and there."}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "Even though they were beyond exhausted"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "from this ordeal, they were so amped up"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "on adrenaline that they had to contact"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "the authorities about what they saw and"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "experienced. And then they realized,"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "well, we can't really tell them what we"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "saw. We just need to say that we had an"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "emergency. I mean, we have to get our"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "equipment back. Neither of them really"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "wanted to go back and do it. So the next"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "day they got a hold of a park ranger and"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "they explained to them where they were"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "at, the exact coordinates and what they"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "were doing, and they just explained that"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "they had an emergency in the middle of"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "the night and had to abandon everything."}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "If this ranger could go and retrieve"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "their belongings, well, that'd be great."}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "The ranger on the other end was"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "basically like, \"Yeah, sure. No"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "problem.\" You know, he took down the"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "location, told them that they would go"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "check it out. And as it turns out, they"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "actually got a call back from this"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "ranger later that day, and he was very"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "upset. And after going to the exact"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "coordinates given, there was nothing"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "there. In fact, there was no sign that"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "anyone had ever camped there. He went"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "off on them, saying that these kids were"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "lying and trying to make up a story for"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "attention. It's something that Sherry"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "hopes she never sees again. The"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "following encounter was filmed by a"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "woman who's also a researcher and live"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "streamer. months ago, she decided to"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "explore a new undisclosed location, a"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "dense patch of woods known for its"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "strange sounds. Initially, her plan was"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "just to stay the night, but she ended up"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "capturing some very disturbing footage"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "during her stream. On the evening of"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "September 25th, she had driven her SUV"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "up this old logging trail to explore"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "somewhere new. She quickly set up a"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "small camp, cooked some food just to"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "kind of get some scent in the air, and"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "even played some animal calls from her"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "speaker, hoping that she would get some"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "activity, or at least a response of some"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "kind. And for the first hour or so, she"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "didn't get anything. And it seemed like"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "this was just going to be a dead-end"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "investigation. But not too long later,"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "the woods started to come alive. And"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "this is when she decided to start the"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "live stream and explain to her viewers"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "what was going on. She started walking"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "down a narrow path that led deeper into"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "the woods. The only light she really had"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "was her flashlight. And then she spots"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "something. This set of eyes. What's"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "weird is that they're relatively low to"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "the ground, but they reflect the light"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "with this bright yellow orange. And"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "oddly, the placement doesn't match up."}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "It looks like it's sticking out of the"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "ground. Like whatever this is is buried"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "up to its chest. This went on for a"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "little bit and then it kind of just"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "blinked out. Wanting to continue the"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "investigation, she kept walking, but her"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "senses were on very high alert at this"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "point. I mean, she was convinced that"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "there was a figure off in the forest"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "just out of reach of the light. During"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "this time, she continued hearing strange"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "noises like growling and like something"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "big was circling her. She continued"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "about 50 yards down the trail where her"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "flashlight illuminated a large thicket"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "of tangled roots and branches at the"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "base of a large tree. That's when she"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "came across this massive figure that"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "looked canine. Through the massive"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "branches, she could make out a very"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "distinct shape and powerful shoulders."}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "It had a canine muzzle and what appeared"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "to be pointed ears. The most terrifying"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "thing, though, was not just the eyes,"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "but how after it was spotted, it slowly"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "crouched down without breaking eye"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "contact. She watched for maybe only 15"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "or so seconds, but she could see as it"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "swayed slightly back and forth. And then"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "as soon as it disappeared from view, she"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "heard a low growl from her left. And"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "that can only mean one thing. It wasn't"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "alone. After realizing that this thing"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "had lured her back here to distract her,"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "she was about to be flanked on both"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "sides. Now, could this footage be faked?"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "Absolutely. I don't think that this is"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "hoaxed with AI for several reasons."}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "First is that AI is terrible at"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "generating lowquality live stream"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "looking footage because it's trained on"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "high quality footage and it just can't"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "do it well at all. Secondly is the"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "entire sequence of her coming up to the"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "base of the tree and staying steady on"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "this large figure before it ever"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "crouches down is way longer than what AI"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "can typically do. Something about this"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "tells me that this isn't exactly a hoax."}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "Unfortunately, all I can do is just"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "present you with the information. But"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "you have to come to your own"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "conclusions. If real, whatever being she"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "encountered this night remains a"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "mystery. And because you guys have made"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "it to the end of the video, I want you"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "to all comment down below, \"Dog gone"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "it.\" So that way I know who made it to"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "the end and who didn't. And if you guys"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "enjoy storytelling like this, where we"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "deep dive into strange cases of the"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "mysterious and supernatural, what are"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "you waiting for? Smack that like and"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "subscribe button right now for more"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "content just like this. And as always,"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "never forget I love you all. Keep an"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "open mind and I'll see you all in the"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "very next episode."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "On the night of September 29th, 1903, a"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "local implement dealer named Eugi"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "Griffith was making his way back to Van"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "Meter, Iowa. It was around 1 in the"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "morning. The streets were empty, and"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "Griffith was probably thinking about"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "nothing more than getting home and"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "climbing into bed. But as he walked past"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "the hardware store on Main Street, he"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "noticed something odd. There was a light"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "moving across the top of the building."}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "It wasn't really a lantern or a torch."}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "It actually seemed to be coming from"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "something that was perched up there on"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "the roof. Griffith stopped in the middle"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "of the street and stared up at this"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "thing. And his eyes adjusted and he can"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "make out what appeared to be a large"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "figure, but it was like 8 ft tall and it"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "was crouched on the edge. And the light"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "was actually emanating from the figure"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "itself from what appeared to be some"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "kind of horn or protrusion. Before he"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "could even process all of this, it"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "spread these massive wings and leapt to"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "another rooftop and then vanished. And"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "he's just stood there for a moment"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "wondering if he just imagined the whole"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "thing. Maybe he was sleepd deprived or"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "what. Maybe it was somebody who had"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "played a trick with the lantern. So he"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "decided not to tell anyone because no"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "one's going to believe a story that"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "crazy. The following night, a doctor, AC"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "Alcott, was sleeping in his office on"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "the second floor of a building, also on"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "Main Street. Now, he often stayed late"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "at his practice, and he'd set up a small"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "bed there for nights when he was just"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "too tired to make it back home. And so,"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "on this night, he was asleep. And around"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "2:00 in the morning, this brilliant"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "light suddenly flooded through his"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "window. And it was so bright that it"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "woke him instantly. He sat up in bed and"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "looked toward the window and perched"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "there on the ledge outside with"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "something that made no sense. It was"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "this creature probably 8 or 9 ft tall,"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "enormous bat-like wings. But the"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "strangest part, of course, was the horn"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "that jutted out from its forehead, and"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "it was glowing like a search light, but"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "it was just sitting there looking in at"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "him through the glass. And then he"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "noticed the smell. Now, even through the"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "closed window, this overwhelming stench"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "was seeping into his office. It was like"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "sulfur mixed with rotting meat. He was"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "not the kind of man who was easily"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "scared. I mean, he'd been a doctor in"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "Van Meter for years and had seen plenty"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "of strange things. So, instead of"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "cowering in his bed, he got up, walked"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "over to his cabinet, pulled out a"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "shotgun, and he loaded it. walked back"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "to the window, threw it open, and this"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "thing on the other side of the window,"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "it just sat there as if taunting him to"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "do something. And so he raised the"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "shotgun, aimed at it point blank at its"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "chest, and pulled the trigger. The blast"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "should have blown the thing clean off"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "the ledge. At that range, the buckshot"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "should have torn right through it, but"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "it didn't flinch. The pellets just"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "bounced off its hide like they were"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "hitting solid rock. The thing tilted its"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "head almost like it was confused by what"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "the doctor had just tried to do and then"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "it spread its wings and flew off into"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "the night. Dr. Alcott slammed the window"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "shut, locked it, and then barricaded his"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "door. And he spent the rest of the night"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "sitting in a chair with his shotgun"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "across his lap, waiting for the sun to"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "come up. Because of what happened to him"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "and the fact that he was a doctor, so he"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "was a voice of authority, word spread"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "quickly all throughout Van Meter about"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "what he had seen. And remember that this"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "was a small town. There's only like"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "about a thousand people who live there."}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "And news traveled pretty fast. Some"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "people thought that the doctor had been"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "drinking and others thought he just had"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "these lucid nightmares. But again, he"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "was well respected and wasn't going to"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "make things up and risk his reputation."}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "That's when Eugi Griffith also came"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "forward and admitted he'd seen the same"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "thing just the night before. Now, the"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "next night on October 1st, the town's"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "bank cashier, a man named Clarence Dunn,"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "who everyone just called him Peter,"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "decided he was going to catch whatever"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "this thing was. Now, Dunn didn't believe"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "in monsters or ghosts or any of that"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "nonsense. And he was convinced this had"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "to have been some elaborate hoax, that"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "there was somebody going around scaring"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "people, or maybe it was somebody in a"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "costume. But regardless, about 2:00 in"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "the morning, he positioned himself"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "inside the bank with a repeating shotgun"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "loaded with buckshot. And he sat there"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "in the dark just watching the street"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "through the front window, waiting,"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "hoping that at some point in the night,"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "he would catch a glimpse of this"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "mysterious creature that everybody was"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "talking about. And he kept waiting and"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "he kept waiting. And sure enough, around"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "2:30, all of a sudden, he just saw this"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "piercing light that suddenly blazed"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "through the glass. And it was so bright"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "that Dunn actually had to shield his"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "eyes. He didn't hesitate. He knew what"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "he was going up against. And he raised"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "his shotgun and fired through the"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "window, not caring if it was an animal"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "or a creature or a person on the other"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "side. The plate glass exploded outward"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "in a shower of fragments. Dunn, of"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "course, then rushed to the shattered"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "window and he looked out expecting there"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "to be a body somewhere or at least some"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "blood or something, but he didn't see"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "anything. He grabbed a lantern. He went"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "outside to investigate and he started"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "looking down at the dirt and he found"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "something strange. There were footprints"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "right outside the window, but they were"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "three toad impressions, kind of like a"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "massive bird. acting quickly. He"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "actually made a plaster cast of one of"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "the prince, but of course, nobody knows"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "what happened to that cast. Of course,"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "right, it's been lost to history. This"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "episode is sponsored by Mint Mobile."}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "Now, at this time, the town was"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "completely terrified. Multiple people at"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "this point had found themselves staring"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "up at a creature with a glowing horn on"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "its head. But you know what? They didn't"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "have to worry about their cell phone"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "bill. Mint Mobile fixes that problem."}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "They've reimagined wireless by making"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "the entire process easy and online. This"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "means no stores, no pushy salespeople,"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "just premium wireless starting at 15"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "bucks a month. Here's the deal, though."}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "All Mint plans include unlimited talk"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "and text on the nation's largest 5G"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "network. You could even call Canada,"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "Mexico, and the UK at no extra charge."}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "And if you grab their unlimited plan,"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "you get a hot spot included up to 10 GB,"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "so you can stream live footage the next"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "time you run into this mysterious"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "glowing horned creature. Here's my"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "favorite part. Mint is all about bulk"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "savings. This means you could lock in 3,"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "6, or 12 month plans. The more you buy"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "up front, the more you save, and you can"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "customize the amount of data you need."}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "It could be 5 GB, 15, 20 GB, or"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "unlimited. You're not stuck to a"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "oneizefits-all plan. And switching is"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "crazy simple. You can sign up and"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "activate in just minutes from your couch"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "with an eSIM. And you keep the same"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "phone number and contacts. That means no"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "hassles, no nonsense, no terrible blurry"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "photographs that look like they're shot"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "on a potato. So, if you're ready to save"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "big on your wireless and finally escape"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "those overpriced monthly bills, head to"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "the link below and grab your 3month"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "introductory plan today. New customers"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "get premium wireless that starts at 15"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "bucks a month. That's mintmobile.com."}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "Check the link below. That same night,"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "just a couple of hours after Dunn's"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "experience, OV White was awakened by a"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "commotion just outside his hardware"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "store. Mr. White lived in an apartment"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "above his shop, and when he looked out"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "his window, he saw something that made"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "him grab his rifle immediately. There"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "was this thing that was perched on top"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "of a telephone pole right outside,"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "except it wasn't like a bat or a bird."}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "It was just this massive 8-ft tall with"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "these bat-like wings that folded in on"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "itself. But this time, the horn on its"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "head wasn't glowing. It was just dark."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "And White could clearly see that this"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "thing was using this kind of hooked"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "shaped beak, kind of like a raptor, but"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "it was using it to grip the pole as it"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "descended. And White didn't know what to"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "think. He was terrified. He just aimed"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "and fired, not caring if he killed this"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "thing or not. The bullet struck the pole"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "right where this thing had been, but it"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "had already leapt off. And the way it"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "moved was so incredibly bizarre. It"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "didn't run or fly. It kind of hopped and"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "used its wings to help propel these very"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "strange enormous kangarike bounds all"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "across the ground. White was immediately"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "hit with this strange overpowering"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "stench. And it was so strong that Sydney"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "Greg, who lived only three houses down,"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "was awakened by the gunfire and then"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "came to his window just in time to see"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "this thing launch itself into the sky"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "and vanish. Now, as you can imagine, now"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "that we have all these additional"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "sightings, people were really freaking"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "out because by October 2nd, the entire"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "town of Van Meter was in a state of near"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "panic. Three respected citizens had seen"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "this thing. Multiple people had shot at"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "it with no effect, and these bizarre"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "three-toed tracks were being seen by"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "plenty of folks around town. The town"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "called for an emergency meeting. They"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "needed to figure out what this thing was"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "and where it was coming from. Somebody"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "had mentioned that the night shift"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "workers at the brick hill had been"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "hearing strange sounds for weeks and"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "that they might know what's happening."}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "As it turns out, the sounds were coming"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "from the old coal mine. The mine had"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "been dug back in 1878, going down 257 ft"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "to pull out coal and clay. But by 1903,"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "it was mostly abandoned except for the"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "brick making operation nearby. JL Platt"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "Jr. who was foreman of the brick plant"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "confirmed that his workers had been"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "hearing things, scraping sounds, weird"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "movements, and sometimes what sounded"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "like wings but flapping deep down in the"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "shaft. At this point, the town knew what"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "they had to do. They formed a posi. All"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "the men were armed with rifles and"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "shotguns and torches and pitchforks and"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "whatever light they could gather. And"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "they just marched out there at the mine"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "on the night of October 2nd. And they"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "waited for this thing to show itself."}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "They positioned themselves in a"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "semicircle around the mine entrance,"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "hiding behind equipment and piles of"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "bricks. And they waited for hours and"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "hours. And finally, midnight came and"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "went. And some of them were starting to"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "think that maybe this was all just mass"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "hysteria. They were realizing this was"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "incredibly foolish. They were wasting"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "their time. They decided that they would"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "stick it out and wait until sunrise."}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "Around 1:00 in the morning, all of them"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "heard a noise coming from down in the"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "minehaft. It was the same sounds many of"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "the co-workers had described, scraping,"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "movement, flapping, but it was getting"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "closer. And all of a sudden, this thing"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "emerged from the mineshaft. It pulled"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "itself up and unfurled these massive"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "wings in the light, and the horn on its"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "head began to glow, and it had these"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "strange little beams of light almost"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "coming off of it. It's hard to describe."}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "Everyone was terrified. They held their"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "breaths, their fingers on the trigger,"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "and they waited for the signal to fire."}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "Something unexpected happened. A second"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "one of these things emerged from the"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "mine shaft behind the first. This one"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "was smaller, maybe a foot or two shorter"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "than the other, but it looked identical."}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "Without another second going by,"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "somebody in the crowd just screamed,"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "\"Fire!\" Everybody erupted in gunfire."}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "Rifles and shotguns and dozens of"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "bullets all aimed at these two things"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "standing there. But just like before,"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "the bullets had no effect. They seemed"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "to strike these things and just bounce"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "off. And the creatures didn't even seem"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "particularly bothered either. They"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "turned almost casually and dropped back"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "down into the minehaft. They stopped"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "their firing. Everybody was stunned, but"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "by then both creatures suddenly shot out"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "of the mine, airborne this time,"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "circling above the posi, and their horns"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "continued to glow as some of the men"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "below kept trying to shoot at them, but"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "it was pointless. These things were too"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "high and too fast. Just before dawn,"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "both of them dove back down and vanished"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "into the mine. But this time they did"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "not come back out. Now as the sun rose"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "on October 3rd, all the men of Van Meter"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "made a decision that they would gather"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "wood, rocks, anything they could find,"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "and they would permanently seal the"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "entrance to that mine. They packed it"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "tight, made sure nothing could get in or"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "out. And the van meter visitor, that's"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "what newspapers started calling it, was"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "never seen again. Now, you might just be"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "thinking that this was just a local"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "legend or some tall tale that got blown"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "out of proportion. And you know, maybe"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "it kind of was, but this story was so"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "sensational that it was picked up by"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "newspapers all across the country. I"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "mean, you had papers in New York City"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "that ran articles about it. The town"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "kept detailed records. And these were"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "all real people. Eugene Griffith, Dr."}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "Alcott, Peter Dunn, OV White. You can"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "look them up in historical records."}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "People have tried their best to explain"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "it away or at least theorize what it can"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "be. In fact, the local school principal"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "at the time theorized that it might be"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "some kind of anti-deluvian creature,"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "which is basically a prehistoric animal"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "that had somehow survived in that mine."}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "So, the idea of something flying around"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "Van Meter seemed almost impossible as"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "the creature itself. What makes this"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "story even stranger is that Van Meter"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "wasn't the only place where winged"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "creatures were cited. The Moth Man in"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "West Virginia in the 1960s, the Jersey"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "Devil in 1909, and just a few years ago."}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "In 2020, there were several reports of"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "winged creatures near Boone, Iowa. The"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "old mind is still there, still sealed."}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "In 2013, Van Meter started holding an"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "annual visitor festival. They do tours"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "of the sites where the encounters"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "happened, and an episode of Expedition X"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "even investigated using thermal cameras"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "and drones at the mine site, but they"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "didn't find anything. Here's something"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "to think about. The night shift workers"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "at the brick kiln had heard sounds from"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "that mine for weeks before the sighting"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "started. And when these finally emerged,"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "there were two of them, a mated pair"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "possibly, living down in that mine for"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "who knows how long. Whatever those"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "things were, as far as anyone knows,"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "they never got out. On an August evening"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "in 2009, a man from Venton, Iowa decided"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "to go for a walk through the"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "countryside. He grabbed his MP3 player,"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "slipped on his headphones, and tucked a"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "bottle of water into his pocket before"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "heading out the door. Nothing about this"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "particular evening suggested it would be"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "anything other than a peaceful stroll."}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "The sun was already hanging pretty low"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "as he made his way down the gravel road,"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "and he'd already covered a couple of"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "miles, listening to music and enjoying"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "the landscape around him. But as it"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "began to get darker, he figured it was"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "time to turn around and head back home."}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "As he walked back along the same route,"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "he noticed one of his neighbors dogs"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "barking somewhere up ahead. But the dogs"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "sounded like it was agitated, like it"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "had spotted something on the road. But"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "you know, dogs, they bark at everything"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "from rabbits, raccoons, shadows. So he"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "didn't think much of it. He just kept"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "walking, listening to his music. And"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "then he started to smell something. And"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "at first it was faint. As he continued"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "down the road, it got stronger. And it"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "was awful. Like wet dog and skunk spray"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "and rotten eggs all intermixed. Now he"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "passed by a trailer sitting off to his"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "right. And there was this single lamp"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "post standing beside it, maybe like 100"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "ft from the street. Even though the"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "light was dim and it was barely enough"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "to cut through the darkness, it still"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "provided at least some sort of light."}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "And so by the time he reached the area"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "near it, the odor was so thick he could"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "practically taste it. So, he stopped"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "walking right there in front of the"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "light post, reached down to his MP3"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "player to change the song, and he"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "noticed that there was something moving"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "in the ditch beside the road. Figuring"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "it was maybe a raccoon, he turned to"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "look, and then whatever it was began to"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "stand up, and it kept standing and"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "standing. And at this point, whatever he"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "was looking at was so massive, at least"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "10 feet. And its entire body was this"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "kind of reddish brown and was very had"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "very thick matted fur. And he could see"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "that the shape of the head was very"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "oval. And the body was incredibly broad."}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "He couldn't really see a neck. This"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "large bulky silhouette was actually"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "facing away from him. And it hadn't"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "noticed he was there. For a moment, he"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "just stood there frozen on the road,"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "still holding on to his MP3 player. or"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "he didn't dare move his finger. Even"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "though the music was still playing in"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "his ears, he couldn't actually hear it."}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "All he could focus on was this shape in"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "front of him. That's when this thing"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "started walking and it climbed out of"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "the ditch on two legs and moved with a"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "very heavy deliberate gate and it walked"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "straight into the field beside the road"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "heading for the treeine of the wooded"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "area off in the distance. But just"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "before it disappeared, it let out this"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "strange scream that was so different"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "than anything he had ever heard. He was"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "so frightened by this that he turned and"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "ran and sprinted all the way home, not"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "looking back once. But the next morning,"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "he had to go to the grocery store just"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "to pick up a few things. And as he was"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "standing in line at the checkout, he had"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "overheard two of his neighbors talking."}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "This was actually a couple who had lived"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "down the street, and they had woken up"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "to find two of their baby cattle"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "missing. But the strangest part was how"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "they disappeared. The branches on the"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "trees leading to where the cattle had"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "been kept were snapped in half. Three"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "sapling trees had been completely torn"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "from the ground. Roots and all."}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "Unfortunately, whatever it is he saw"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "that night in the ditch will remain a"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "mystery. On a humid afternoon in 1872, a"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "farmer named Peter Mayor was working his"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "plow through the dark Iowa soil near an"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "old Indian burial mound. The blade"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "caught on something hard. Mare stopped"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "his horses and knelt down to clear"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "whatever stone was blocking his path."}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "But when he pulled the object from the"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "earth and brushed away all the dirt, he"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "saw this wasn't just a stone. It was a"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "carved smoking pipe. And the carving"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "showed what looked like an elephant."}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "Trunk, tusks, everything. Mare stood"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "there in his field, turning the pipe"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "over in his hands. The elephant was"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "unmistakable. Four legs, a distinctive"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "curved trunk, and even carved ears. But"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "none of this made sense because there"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "weren't any elephants in Iowa. There"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "never had been. He figured maybe the"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "carving was just worn down in a way that"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "made an it look like an elephant because"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "rocks can play tricks on you sometimes."}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "Or maybe somebody was pulling a prank,"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "planting fake artifacts near the burial"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "mounds. People did that kind of thing."}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "Mayor pocketed the pipe and went back to"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "plowing. But that evening, he showed it"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "to his brother-in-law, who happened to"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "know Reverend Jacob Gas. He collected"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "artifacts, studied burial mounds, you"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "know, that sort of thing. And so when he"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "heard about Mayor's pipe, he immediately"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "tried to buy it from Mayor's"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "brother-in-law, but the man wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "sell. So he did the next best thing. He"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "examined the pipe carefully with his"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "magnifying glass, measuring every angle"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "and noted every detail. Then he made a"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "plaster casting of it. He took"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "photographs. He wanted to preserve every"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "aspect because the more he looked at it,"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "the more certain he became this was an"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "elephant. The tusks were carved, right?"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "Somebody had carved this with intimate"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "knowledge of what an elephant actually"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "looked like. He brought his castings and"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "photographs to the Davenport Academy."}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "And a William Pratt, who at the time was"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "the president, called for a special"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "meeting. The members gathered around the"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "long oak table in their meeting room,"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "gas lamps flickering on the walls,"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "passing the photographs from hand to"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "hand. And some of the members thought it"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "was a hoax. End of story. Maybe some"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "traveling showman had seen elephants"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "back east and just carved the pipe as"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "novelty. It's really not that big of a"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "deal. Others pointed out that it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "just simply dismissed. The pipe's style"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "of carving, it looked genuinely old."}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "Like really old. One of the other"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "members of the table spoke up and they'd"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "been thinking about the problem. What if"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "ancient Native Americans had actually"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "seen elephants? Not African or Asian,"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "but mastadons. American elephants that"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "had lived here thousands of years ago. I"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "mean, scientists do speculate that"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "mastadons had once roamed North America,"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "though a small group had survived on"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "some island off Siberia until what they"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "say is 3,600 years ago. But people"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "seeing them in Iowa, I mean, that would"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "completely rewrite history. The Academy"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "voted to document the find officially."}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "They were very careful and scientific"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "about it. They presented the evidence"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "and let readers draw their own"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "conclusions. But more elephant pipes"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "started turning up. In Musketine County,"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "some German settlers found two pipes in"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "a burial mound. One showed a bear,"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "normal enough, but the other was another"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "elephant. Same style of carving, same"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "attention to all the anatomical details."}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "In 1888, Louisa County, another mound,"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "another elephant pipe that made three"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "total, all from different locations, all"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "from these ancient burial sites. The"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "Davenport Academy now possessed the most"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "remarkable collection of pre-Colombian"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "elephant artifacts in the world. But of"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "course, people were split. Some people"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "pushed the mastadon theory hard in"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "journals like American Antiquarian."}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "Ancient peoples must have encountered"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "these creatures, they argue. How else"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "could you explain such accurate"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "carvings? It is preposterous. But the"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "Smithsonian Institution in Washington"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "simply wasn't buying it. Joseph Maguire,"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "writing an official Smithsonian"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "publication about Native American pipes"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "in 1899, barely mentioned the elephant"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "pipes. When he did, his skepticism was"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "obvious. There was something else going"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "on here, though. Something beyond just"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "pipes and elephants. The Smithsonian and"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "the Davenport Academy were locked in a"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "bigger fight about the burial mounds"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "themselves. Smithsonian scientists"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "believed Native Americans had built"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "them. But the Davenport Academy kept"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "finding things in these mounds that"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "suggested otherwise. crucifixes, hand"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "mirrors, pieces of armor, even a silver"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "cross in mound number eight. All of this"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "pointed to some other explanation that"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "maybe ancient Europeans had come to"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "America. Maybe there was some lost"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "civilization. The elephant pipes fit"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "into this theory and Davenport needed"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "those theories to be true. They had"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "staked the reputation on challenging the"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "Smithsonian's version of American"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "prehistory. Fast forward to 2009 and a"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "science writer named Brian Swittitech"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "wrote about them and that article caught"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "the attention of Marshall Makusk, a"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "University of Iowa professor who'd been"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "studying the Davenport Academy for years"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "at this point. Now Makusik had written"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "something called the Davenport"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "Conspiracy. And when he'd gone through"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "all of the academyy's older records, he"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "found something that was quite"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "disturbing. It would turn out that the"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "Davenport Academy had been caught"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "fabricating evidence. Oh no. Well, the"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "Davenport tablets, which are these stone"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "slabs supposedly covered in ancient"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "writing, had been the Academyy's prized"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "discovery. Well, I guess you guys can"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "probably assume that they weren't real."}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "They'd supposedly found them in a mound,"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "documented them, published papers about"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "them, and these tablets prove they said"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "that some advanced civilization had been"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "in Iowa long before Columbus. But"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "Makusix's research revealed what we all"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "suspected. They were fake. That someone"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "had taken regular roofing tiles, carved"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "fake symbols, and then planted them in"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "the mound for the academy to find. But"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "this wasn't isolated because during the"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "same time period, all sorts of"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "suspicious artifacts kept turning up in"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "mounds that the academy investigated."}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "Crucifixes that looked medieval but"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "weren't. Armor that seemed ancient but"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "had modern tool marks. The academy had"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "been so desperate to prove the"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "Smithsonian wrong to show that Native"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "Americans hadn't built the mounds that"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "they'd started planting evidence, or at"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "a minimum, they'd been remarkably"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "uncritical about obviously fake"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "artifacts that supported their theories."}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "Which brings us all the way back to"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "Peter Mayor's pipe. Now, Mayor probably"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "didn't fake anything himself. He was"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "just a farmer who found something"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "strange. But once that pipe reached gas"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "in the Davenport Academy, once it became"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "evidence in the war with the"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "Smithsonians, I mean, who knows what"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "happened. It's convenient that the other"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "two elephant pipes turned up right when"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "the academy needed them the most, right"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "when their theories were under attack."}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "Today, those pipes still exist and you"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "could see the castings, study the"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "photographs, everything. But whether"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "Peter Mayor really pulled an ancient"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "artifact from that Iowa soil or whether"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "someone else carved that elephant and"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "made sure it ended up in his field near"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "that burial mound, that's something"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "we'll probably never know for sure."}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "Unfortunately, even that folks remains a"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "mystery. And because you guys made it"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "this far, I want you to all comment down"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "below Iowa. So that way I know who made"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "it to the end and who didn't. And if you"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "guys enjoy content like this where we"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "deep dive into strange cases of the"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "mysterious and supernatural, what are"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "you waiting for? Smack that like and"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "subscribe button right now for more"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "content just like this. As always, never"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "forget I love you all."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "For 2,000 years, an entire village in"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "China used what they thought were"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "bottomless ponds. They were wrong. What"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "lay beneath would rewrite everything we"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "know about ancient civilizations. In the"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "early morning of June 18th, 1992, a man"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "named Woo Anai was staring into the dark"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "water of his local pond. But this wasn't"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "just any pond. It was actually one of"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "five. These rectangular bodies of water"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "had existed in Wuana's village of Cheyen"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "Bun for as long as anyone could"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "remember. And at that time, these ponds"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "had proven to be something of a mystery"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "to everyone in town. The children had"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "been warned away from them since before"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "his grandfather's time, though the"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "warnings never explained exactly why."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "Adults would just shake their heads and"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "change the subject when asked about it."}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "Wu andai had tried plenty of times as a"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "boy, but nobody ever gave him a straight"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "answer. Because these ponds scattered"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "throughout this small farming community"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "in Ja Jang province in China were"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "locally famous for being bottomless. No"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "matter how hard they tried, no one had"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "ever managed to determine just how deep"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "they went. These ponds became a source"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "of both practical use and persistent"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "mystery for generations. Woo had lived"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "in Cheyon Bon his entire life. And like"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "everybody else there, he had grown up"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "fishing and collecting water from them."}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "But also, like everyone else, he had"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "always wondered just how deep they"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "really were. He was going to find out"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "what was at the bottom. From time to"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "time, curious villagers would take out"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "these long bamboo poles and probe as"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "deep as they could to try and measure"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "the depth, but they never could. They"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "would just push the poles down until the"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "entire length disappeared beneath the"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "surface. Yet, they never felt the poles"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "hit the bottom and the ends always came"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "up clean. A few weeks earlier, a"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "villager had caught a fish from one of"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "these ponds. Now, this caught attention"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "because this was a huge fish, almost 18"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "lb. And it's widely believed that they"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "only grow really big when they have a"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "big enough space to accommodate them,"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "both in their terms of size and the"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "amount of food they can catch. But the"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "pond just didn't seem large enough to"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "allow any fish to have grown that big."}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "But the size wasn't the only thing that"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "caught Woo's attention. Now, it's not"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "entirely clear what species it was, but"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "everybody in the village agreed that"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "this type only lived in really deep"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "water, at least deeper than what they"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "suspected the pond was. This coupled"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "with the fact that the ponds were"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "rumored to be bottomless. What if they"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "actually were as deep as everybody"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "believed? And more importantly, what was"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "down there? Woo started to become"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "obsessed with getting to the bottom of"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "this mystery, no pun intended, and he"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "began talking to other villagers about"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "it, trying to convince them to help do"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "something crazy. He wanted to drain one"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "of these ponds just to see what was at"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "the bottom. Of course, everybody thought"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "he was nuts. These ponds had been"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "providing the village with food and"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "water for centuries. What if they were"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "just deep ponds, nothing special? But"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "this is what lurks beneath. It's going"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "to be anything but ordinary. Woo must"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "have been really convincing because"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "eventually his enthusiasm won everyone"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "over and they all pulled their money"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "together to get a water pump. And on"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "that morning in June of 1992, they were"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "ready to begin. Woo and his friends set"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "up the pump and began the process of"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "draining the pond. Given the fact that"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "it was rumored to be bottomless, they"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "all figured it might take a while, days"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "maybe, but none of them could have"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "expected that it would require them to"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "pump continuously for weeks. Once that"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "became obvious, he and three other"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "villagers started taking shifts, making"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "sure that the pump was running"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "continuously. And bit by bit, the water"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "level began to drop. It would never end."}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "Now, it would have been easy to just"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "give up, but they had reasons to be"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "encouraged to continue. Just 5 days into"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "this non-stop pumping operation,"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "something unexpected happened. As the"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "water levels continued to drop inch by"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "inch, Woo noticed something very odd. He"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "saw what looked like these structures"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "emerging from beneath the surface. He"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "probably thought that he was"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "hallucinating from lack of sleep, but as"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "more water was pumped out, there was no"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "denying it. He was looking at these"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "man-made stairs leading down into the"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "darkness of the deep water. At first, it"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "just looked like a dark, straight line"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "under the churning water. Woo probably"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "thought his eyes were playing tricks on"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "him after days of no sleep. But then"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "another inch of water drained away, and"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "the line became a perfect right angle."}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "Then another. This wasn't a rock. It"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "wasn't a log. The other villagers"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "gathered around. Nature doesn't make"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "perfect corners like that. They were"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "looking at something that shouldn't be"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "there. Emerging from a place that was"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "supposed to be bottomless. Woo"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "immediately calls his friends over for a"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "look and he points at this staircase"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "coming out of the surface. All they can"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "do is stand there in disbelief. And by"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "now they've started to realize that this"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "is no natural formation. They're"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "definitely stairs handcrafted and meant"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "for human use. But who built them and"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "why? And most importantly, where did"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "they lead? By now, the pumping of the"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "so-called bottomless pond was a 24/7"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "operation. The anticipation grew with"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "each passing day, and the villagers"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "began gathering around, watching in"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "amazement as this mysterious structure"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "emerged from the water that had"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "concealed it for a 100 generations. Each"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "day seemed to reveal another step, and"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "another until a clearer picture finally"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "came into view. Now, it took 17 more"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "days of continuous pumping for Woo and"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "the others to truly get a sense of what"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "they were dealing with, but the pond had"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "been completely drained. And what Woo"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "and his fellow friends discovered was"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "blew them away. They could see that"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "their community's pond, the same one"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "that all their ancestors had fished for"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "thousands of years, wasn't actually a"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "pond. Woo and I became the first modern"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "person to walk down those ancient"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "stairs. flashlight in hand and having no"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "clue what to expect, he made his way"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "down the narrow steps and the stairway"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "was really steep and combined with how"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "wet it was, demanded slow, careful steps"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "to avoid slipping while descending. The"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "walls pressed in on both sides carved"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "from solid stone and Woos fingers"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "brushed against the damp surface to try"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "and steady himself. He felt grooves"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "which were deliberate marks left by"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "tools. Someone had chiseled these steps."}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "His flashlight beam wobbled as he"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "descended, revealing wet stone walls"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "that seemed to go on forever. 20 steps"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "down, then 30, and the air grew colder,"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "heavier. It smelled like old earth and"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "something else, something metallic. Woo"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "counted 40 steps, then 50, and his legs"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "started to burn from the steep descent."}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "How deep had they built this thing? At"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "60 steps, the stairway opened into"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "something strange. Woo stopped breathing"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "and he kind of just froze for a second."}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "Not really breathing, just waiting, not"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "sure what to do. And then slowly he let"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "the air go like he was trying to make as"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "little noise as possible. He was"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "standing at the entrance to a massive"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "underground chamber and his flashlight"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "beam stretched out into the darkness and"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "he couldn't find a wall. The chamber"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "that he found himself in was huge, much"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "bigger than the village square above."}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "There were these stone pillars coming up"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "from the floor, and they were thick,"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "about as big around as tree trunks, and"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "they went straight up, disappearing into"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "the dark way overhead. Woo took his"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "light and swept it around, and the beam"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "picked up one pillar after another."}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "Dozens of them, all arranged in perfect,"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "evenly spaced rows, maybe even more than"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "he could count. And he could hear water"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "dripping from off in the distance. And"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "the deeper he walked, he realized this"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "was a place that hadn't been explored"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "for a very long time. Although he didn't"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "know it at the time, later measurements"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "would determine that this chamber was"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "roughly 12,000 square ft, which is well"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "over twice the size of a professional"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "basketball court. And with ceilings"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "soaring around 98 ft high, which is the"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "equivalent to any 8-story commercial"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "building, this was definitely something."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "But as amazing as the size was, every"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "surface inside, from the walls to the"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "pillars to even the ceiling, was covered"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "in what clearly looked like tool"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "markings, forming these perfectly"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "parallel lines. They were deliberate,"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "almost decorative patterns made with the"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "consistency that seems impossible to"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "have ever been done by hand thousands of"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "years ago. Even the massive stone"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "pillars that held up the ceiling were so"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "uniform and perfectly formed. They"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "showed remarkable engineering"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "sophistication. He ran his hand along"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "one of the pillars and right away the"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "stone felt cold and kind of slick under"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "his palm. But as he continued, he was"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "just simply blown away by what he was"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "looking at. His flashlight began to"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "reveal other structures in the cave. And"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "he saw stone chambers with bridges and"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "gutters and pools dug throughout the"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "rest of the interior. And perhaps most"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "incredibly, everything inside seemed to"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "be in pristine condition, like it had"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "been carved yesterday and not thousands"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "of years ago, submerged under the water"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "for a hundred generations. He realized"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "that he had clearly stumbled onto"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "something big, but he had no idea who or"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "what created the chamber. But he decided"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "that he didn't want to adventure too"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "much because up ahead he could see that"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "there were large chambers that led off"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "in other directions. This could be an"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "underground city he just discovered. He"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "had to go back and tell the others. The"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "climb up was harder than going down. His"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "legs were already tired and each step"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "made his thighs ache more. The"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "flashlight kept slipping in his sweaty"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "grip, and he had to stop halfway to"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "catch his breath, leaning against the"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "wet stone wall. The cold seeped through"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "his shirt. When he finally emerged, the"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "sunlight hit him like a slap. He"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "squinted, raising a hand to shield his"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "eyes, and the villagers there, all must"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "have been, 20 or 30 of them now,"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "standing around the edge of the drain"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "pond. They were waiting for him, and"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "their faces turned toward him all at"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "once. When he emerged and described what"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "he had seen, it was hard to believe at"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "first, but one by one, people descended"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "and each one saw it for themselves. He"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "was telling the truth. Shortly after,"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "people began hearing what was deep down"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "in this drain pond. Soon, experts from"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "all across China were converging on this"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "tiny village to investigate the site. It"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "became known as the Shaunan High stone"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "chambers, or more commonly, the Long"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "Caves. But it wasn't just archaeologist"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "and geologists who showed up. Woo"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "noticed other men, too. Men in plain"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "dark suits who didn't carry measuring"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "tools or cameras. They didn't speak to"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "villagers. They just spoke quietly"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "amongst themselves. Their eyes"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "constantly scanning the perimeter."}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "Within a day, they had set up a"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "temporary fence, keeping the villagers,"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "including Woo himself, a good distance"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "away from the other ponds. It felt less"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "like a scientific investigation and more"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "like a lockdown. As experts from the"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "Chinese government and universities"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "conducted their investigations of Wu's"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "discovery, they learned something"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "astonishing. The pond that Woo had"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "emptied wasn't just a cave, but it was"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "part of an entire complex of caves, 24"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "to be exact, and they were spread all"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "across this one area of a single square"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "kilometer near Fang Huan Hill or Phoenix"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "Mountain. The archaeologist began"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "mapping everything. They brought in"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "equipment Woo had never seen before."}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "Laser measuring devices, ground"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "penetrating radar, all kinds of fancy"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "stuff. But Woo continued to watch them"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "work and tried to understand what they"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "were finding. And as the geologist and"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "other scientists began pumping out these"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "other caves and exploring them, they"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "soon learned something very interesting."}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "Today, of the 24 caverns, 14 have"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "collapsed, but the remaining 10 are"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "still in excellent condition. And each"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "cave follows the exact same design"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "principles. There are always four"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "parallel walls with distinct edges. One"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "steep side and one side with a 45\u00b0"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "incline. And there was always a single"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "entrance with a vertical shaft"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "containing stairs complete with"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "elaborate drainage systems at each base."}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "All the caves shared an identical water"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "catch system. Whoever built them, for"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "whatever reason, these caves showed"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "deliberate planning and careful"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "construction. They had to have taken an"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "unimaginable amount of effort to pull"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "off. And even weirder was how accurate"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "each cave was dug into the ground. In"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "some places, two separate caves are only"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "separated by about 50 cm of rock. That's"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "barely anything. I mean, can you imagine"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "doing that without today's technology"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "and, you know, not accidentally breaking"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "into the cave next door? The"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "archaeologist kept talking about"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "precision. Woo didn't really understand"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "all their technical mumbo jumbo, but he"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "got the basic idea, and that was whoever"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "carved these caves had done something"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "that shouldn't have been possible. They"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "dug multiple chambers side by side,"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "underground in total darkness, and"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "somehow kept them perfectly separate."}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "But even with the caves sometimes being"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "so close, experts determine that none of"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "them are interconnected and that each"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "one stands alone, a separate chamber"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "carved with the same distinctive style"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "and precision. Now, even though they all"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "followed the same principles and were"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "structured the same, it doesn't mean"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "that each cave is identical. Their floor"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "area varies, but averages around 10,800"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "square ft. The height and width varies,"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "too. The smallest is 59 ft wide. The"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "largest is 111. And the shortest ceiling"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "is just 26 feet. Before they even had"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "time to conduct a proper investigation,"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "authorities were baffled by the"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "discovery of these caves. They were"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "convinced at the time that nothing like"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "this had ever been recorded in Chinese"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "history. Not a single mention in any"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "ancient text or local legend. The"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "archaeologist kept checking their"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "reference books, making phone calls to"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "colleagues in Beijing, and Woo had heard"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "them talking, but they couldn't find it."}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "No emperor had ordered these built. One"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "professor insisted there had to be"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "records somewhere. Another said maybe"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "they'd been deliberately erased from"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "history. A third suggested they predated"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "written records entirely. But that last"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "theory didn't sit right with some of the"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "older professors. Ancient China was"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "known for its meticulous recordkeeping."}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "Emperors documented everything,"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "especially massive construction projects"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "that would have required thousands of"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "laborers. And for something on this"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "scale to just leave no trace was more"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "than just an oversight. It was an"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "impossibility. One of the researchers"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "from Beijing quietly suggested to Woo"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "that maybe the records weren't missing."}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "Maybe they had been deliberately erased"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "centuries ago. declared a state secret"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "by an emperor who wanted these caves and"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "whatever they had held forgotten"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "forever. As it turns out, approximately"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "1 million cubic meters of stone had been"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "removed to create these caverns. That's"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "enough to fill about 400 Olympic sized"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "swimming pools. Yet, there is no trace"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "of this excavated stone anywhere in the"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "surrounding area. It's as if it simply"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "vanished. The villagers had another"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "mystery on their hands. Woo kept"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "thinking about it as he walked around"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "the edge of the empty pond. Looking down"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "at the entrance, he discovered where did"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "all the stone go? You can't just make a"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "million cubic meters of rock vanish."}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "Someone had to have hauled it away. They"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "must have used boats maybe or carts, but"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "where would they take it all? Woo even"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "walked around the village that evening"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "looking at old stone walls that marked"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "property lines, the foundations of"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "houses. None of it matched the stone"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "from down there. different color,"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "different texture. So, the experts set"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "up equipment to date the caves and they"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "brought in carbon dating specialists who"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "took samples from the walls looking for"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "any organic material that was trapped in"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "the stone. And to make all of this even"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "stranger, there were no suit marks"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "anywhere. In an era before electricity,"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "how had the workers seen what they were"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "doing in these dark underground"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "chambers? Torches would have left"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "residue on the ceilings. We know that"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "from every other archaeological site."}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "But in the long U caves, there's none to"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "be found. The cave entrances allow"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "sunlight in only at certain angles and"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "times, which wouldn't have been"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "sufficient for such detailed work. And"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "at some point, you would have had to"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "have had torches burning. By now, there"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "had been several dozen trips down in the"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "caves by several teams of"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "archaeologists. Each time they noticed"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "something new. As they began excavating"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "deeper, they made more discoveries while"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "collecting artifacts. Based on pottery"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "fragments and other items found in the"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "silt, they were able to confirm the"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "approximate age of these caverns. Their"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "construction must have dated back to"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "around 230 BC, making them over 2200"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "years old and were apparently in use for"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "a long time. Yet somehow they had"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "maintained their structural integrity"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "perfectly for this long. Meanwhile,"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "similar ancient man-made caves elsewhere"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "have suffered significant damage over"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "time, especially when made out of"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "something as relatively fragile as silt"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "stone. This is one mystery that seems to"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "have been solved. Engineers later"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "determined that the water filling the"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "caves had actually helped preserve their"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "structure. It was only after they were"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "drained that additional supports needed"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "to be installed to prevent collapse. But"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "did that mean that the caves being"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "flooded was part of the plan all along?"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "Even without the water to reinforce"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "them, each pillar can still support over"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "half a million pounds of weight. A"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "testament to the incredible engineering"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "skill of their creators. But who were"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "those creators? Well, the caves have"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "offered up a few tantalizing clues about"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "them over the decades. In one, several"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "steel chisels were found that some"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "believe might have been used in the"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "construction of the Longu caves. In the"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "one cave that's now open to tourists,"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "there are these intricate stone carvings"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "of a horse, a fish, and a bird. No one"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "has been able to agree whether or not"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "these were part of the original"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "construction or at some point added"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "later before the caves were flooded. But"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "that still doesn't help us understand"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "who built them or why they were even"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "excavated in the first place. Even more"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "bizarre is that because ancient Chinese"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "culture kept extensive detailed records,"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "there should be some answers, but there"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "are none. If the dating is correct, then"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "these chambers would have been"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "constructed around the Western Han"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "dynasty, which is also really strange"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "because a monumental undertaking like"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "this would have or should have been"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "documented, right? I mean, scientists"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "estimate that it would have taken at"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "least a thousand people working 24 hours"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "a day, 7 days a week for at least 6"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "years to have excavated all two dozen"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "caves by hand. But the only historical"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "mention comes from a 17th century poem,"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "which is long after these were built."}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "Which leads me to my next theory. What"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "if the reason we don't have a good"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "record of this is because the Longu"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "caves were built in secret? Some"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "scholars believe that they were ancient"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "military staging grounds, places to"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "gather armies, or as others have"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "suggested, they served as palaces,"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "tombs, or religious sites. But we don't"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "have any religious relics, and no grave"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "goods have ever been discovered in any"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "of the caverns. Maybe the reason the"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "caves are mostly empty is because"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "whatever was in there has been taken out"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "deliberately. So maybe they were used"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "for storage, perhaps for grain or other"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "valuable commodities. But keeping grain"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "underground isn't exactly safe. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "remember these were flooded, so it's"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "easy to imagine that any grain stored in"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "there would have gotten wet and would"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "have started rotting. One interesting"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "idea suggests that the shape of the"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "Longu caves might offer a clue. The"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "caves tend to be large at the bottom and"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "narrower at the top. This design would"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "have reduced evaporation and has led"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "some to suggest these caves were"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "intended to be sistns for water storage"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "or the long caves were just quaries and"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "that's it. But their uniform design"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "doesn't support the idea and none of the"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "tool markings look like people just came"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "through and pulled out chunks of rock."}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "And with that, we're pretty much back to"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "where we started because we have no idea"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "where all the excavated stone ended up."}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "From what we can tell, it's as if they"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "were carved out and then immediately"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "abandoned. But the plot thickens because"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "there would have been similar"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "discoveries made close by. Well, in"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "2000, another farmer discovered a"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "similar complex about 120 mi northwest"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "of Longu. These are known as the Hashan"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "Grotto, and they feature 36 chambers"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "with very similar decorative patterns"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "and chisel marks. The only thing is the"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "Hashon caves were clearly built much"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "much later between roughly 1551 and 1667"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "approximately 1500 years after the Longu"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "caves were carved out. This has caused"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "people to wonder if they aren't just"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "limitations of the grander structures"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "like Longu like the later builders were"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "trying to recreate something they had"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "seen or heard about but without fully"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "understanding the original techniques."}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "Now, the discovery of Long Yu Caves"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "wasn't widely publicized for about 6"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "years, and in 1999, the Chinese Ministry"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "of Culture and Tourism held a summit at"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "the caves, bringing together experts"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "from around the world to study them."}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "Yet, even this concentrated effort"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "failed to reach a consensus on why they"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "were built. Today, despite endless"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "amounts of research from international"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "experts in archaeology, architecture,"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "engineering, and geology, the purpose of"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "the Longu Caves remains a complete"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "mystery, and only one of them is open to"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "tourists, allowing you to marvel at"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "these ancient structures. The official"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "reason, of course, was that the other"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "caves were too structurally unstable to"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "allow public access. But is that true?"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "It has made some people wonder if the"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "government wasn't trying to preserve the"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "caves, but rather control what people"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "saw inside of them. After all, if they"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "only let you see one, they can control"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "the whole story. Many in China consider"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "the Longyu caves to be the ninth wonder"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "of the ancient world, representing one"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "of the largest ancient underground"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "excavations ever discovered."}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "Unfortunately, the cavern's true"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "purpose, what it held, and why it was"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "built will remain a mystery. And because"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "you guys made it this far, I want you to"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "all comment below bottomless. So that"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "way I know who made it to the end and"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "who didn't. And if you guys enjoy"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "content like this where we deep dive"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "into strange cases and stories of the"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "mysterious and supernatural, what are"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "you waiting for? Smack that like and"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "subscribe button right now for more"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "content just like this. As always, I"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "love you all. Keep an open mind and I'll"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "see you guys in the very next episode."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "What happens when a police officer reports being hunted by something that isn't human and is left traumatized?"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "Another officer is hit by a mysterious energy. Federal agents come to silence"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "his case. These two encounters share a disturbing connection, a pattern of official denial. These are the official"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "accounts they try to erase, and it begins at around 10 on the night of July 11th, 2008. 22-year-old Brandon Hines"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "and his 19-year-old girlfriend Jaime Marker were sitting on a wooden jetty that extended out into Luten Lake near"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "Mineral Point, Wisconsin. They had decided to go night fishing and had already had their lines cast out in the"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "water. Brandon and Jaime had been dating for a while and fishing at this lake had become one of their favorite pastimes."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "They would often come out here at night when the lake was quiet and they could have the jetty all to themselves."}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "Suddenly, they heard this strange noise coming from somewhere else. To their surprise, as they're listening, they"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "realize the sound is coming from directly beneath them, and it sounds like something is moving underneath the"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "jetty. Brandon thinks it's probably just an animal, like a raccoon or maybe even a beaver taking a break from a late"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "night swim. But as they stand there, these sounds continue. They realize that whatever it is sounds pretty big. It"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "sounds more like something is actually using the underside of the jetty like a ladder, methodically climbing up the"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "support beams beneath their feet. Brandon and Jaime look at each other, and they both can see that the other one"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "is terrified. The wooden boards beneath them are creaking with each movement, like something heavy is shifting its"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "weight from one to another. Jaime asks what it is, but Brandon can only shake his head and admit that he doesn't know,"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "but he's going to try and scare it away. He walks over to where the sounds seem to be coming from, and he stomps his"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "feet hard on the boards of the jetty, hoping to frighten away whatever animal is underneath, but it doesn't work. So,"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "he takes out his flashlight, flicks it on, and starts shining it down between the cracks and the wooden planks, hoping"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "to see whatever is down there. But he can't see much of anything between the boards, just that there's movement. For"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "a moment or two, things are quiet until suddenly they both hear this loud"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "splashing sound coming from the other side of the jetty, like something has just moved across the water underneath."}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "Both of them instantly turn toward the noise and start looking for whatever this is, and it's getting louder and"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "louder. Bam! They finally see it. Something pale is rising from the"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "water's edge of the jetty close by. And as the figure pulls itself up onto the"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "jetty, they immediately realize that, okay, this isn't a normal animal here. It's a figure and a human figure, and"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "it's wearing what appears to be a dark suit and a cape that is now soaked and clung to its back. Jaime immediately"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "grabs Brandon's arm so hard her nails dug into his skin. She's terrified by this. She calls out and asks, \"Who are"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "you? What are you doing here? And why are you wearing such a strange outfit? Brandon is simply too petrified to do"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "anything. Jaime has had enough, though. She jumps up and takes off, running back toward shore to the car. Brandon finally"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "snaps out of it and points his flashlight right at this person's face. What he sees is a pale white face with"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "dark, sunken eyes and wet black hair. It's like something from his childhood nightmares. As the light hits its face,"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "this stranger doesn't even flinch or attempt to shield their eyes. They just stared back at Brandon emotionless. Out"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "of total fear, Brandon threw his flashlight at this thing and turned to run. And by the time he reaches side of"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "the car, he can see that Jaime is already inside with the doors locked. She's crying and frantically motioning"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "for him to hurry. But by the time he makes it, she unlocks the door. And the second he's inside, he speeds away."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "Immediately, both of them went to the police and reported it. They did dispatch officers to investigate, but by"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "the time they arrived, there was no sign of anyone. The couple's fishing gear was still on the jetty, but Brandon noticed"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "something strange when he went back to get their fishing gear. The flashlight was mysteriously missing, the same one"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "he'd thrown at the figure. What Brandon and Jaime didn't realize at the time was that this wasn't the first time someone"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "reported something like this in Mineral Point. This video is sponsored by Tempo."}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "Nights like this, chasing down reports, combing police files, trying to make sense of what people saw, you blink and"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "it's 1:00 a.m. That's exactly when I'd cave and eat junk. But lately, I've been"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "using Tempo and it's been a lifesaver for my schedule. Tempo is a recurring weekly meal delivery subscription with"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "chef crafted fully prepared single servings that cook in just 2 minutes."}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "Their rotating menu has 24 plus options each week. And Tempo's menus are"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "dietitian approved. I can actually filter what I want, proteinpacked, calorie conscious, carb conscious, or"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "fiber richch. So it supports a healthy lifestyle without me pretending I have time to meal prep. What sold me is the"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "real ingredients and familiar feel-good flavors. I'll pull a proteinpacked option on a late edit night, microwave"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "it, and I'm eating in two minutes. No mess, no cleanup. And each week, I get new, fresh, flavorful meals at my door."}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "Mindful choices. There are 20 of them on the rotating menu, so it never feels repetitive. If you want better for you"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "meal prep without the prep part, head to tempo meals.com or click the QR code or"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "the link in the description to try Tempo for yourself. The drifless region of Wisconsin could be considered a"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "paranormal hot spot with Mineral Point as the epicenter. What Jaime and Brandon saw that night was what they flat out"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "said looked exactly like Dracula. But so many people in Mineral Point have"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "reported seeing this strange pale caped figure for decades that it's earned the nickname the Mineral Point vampire. And"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "in fact, the first documented sighting of this mysterious figure actually occurred on March 14th, 1981. That's"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "more than 27 years before Brandon and Jaime's encounter. On that evening, the"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "Mineral Police Department received a call about a disturbance at Graceland Cemetery. Officer John Pepper was the"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "first to respond to the scene. Jon, who was in his early 30s at the time, was an experienced man who had been with the"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "department for several years. He was very level-headed, practical, and not the type to get spooked or even"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "entertain the supernatural. When he arrived at the cemetery that night, he expected to find something mundane, like"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "teenagers or maybe somebody vandalizing. But that's not what happened. As Jon stepped out of his squad car, he could"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "see that the cemetery was covered in a light dusting of snow. The moon was giving off enough light that he didn't"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "immediately need his flashlight. But as he walked among the headstones, looking"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "for any signs of a disturbance, he suddenly spotted this enormous figure"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "standing near a cluster of graves in the older section of the cemetery. Once he got a better look, he explained that the"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "figure was wearing what appeared to be a long black cape and had a face that was completely white, like it had been"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "painted. He also noticed it was standing significantly taller than the average person. But despite being startled by"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "what he was seeing, he kept his composure and called out announcing who he was. He demanded that the person tell"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "him what they were doing in the cemetery at this hour. For several seconds, this person didn't respond. And and when they"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "finally did answer Jon's questions, they didn't speak. They made what Jon would later describe as a low animalistic"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "growl. The figure turned and ran. Jon immediately gave chase, but as he"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "threaded his way between the headstones, he was shocked by how fast it seemed to move. Despite being in great physical"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "condition, Jon just couldn't keep up. This caped figure easily outpaced him,"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "running through the cemetery at almost an impossible speed. He saw the border of the cemetery up ahead, and he was"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "relieved because it meant that the intruder was cornered. There was a 6-ft tall barbed wire fence separating the"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "cemetery from an adjacent cow pasture. The person, stranger, had nowhere to go."}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "When the intruder reached the line, Jon was still lagging a good distance behind, but he was close enough to"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "clearly witness what happened next. And it's something that stayed with him even up until today. The person leapt into"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "the air and cleared the entire 6-ft barbed wire fence in a single bound, landed on the other side in the pasture,"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "and took off in the darkness. Jon knew there was nothing he could do, but he was obviously shaken. John and fellow"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "officers did arrive back on the scene to examine things. They were determined to find anything. They scoured all around."}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "They found footprints in the snow leading up to the fence, but there were no footprints on the other side where"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "this person should have landed. It obviously didn't make any sense. Only days after this did reports start"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "flooding in from residents of Mineral Point. A tall figure in a cape with a white face had been cited, sometimes"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "near cemeteries. There were reports of it with glowing red eyes and others that reported unnatural speed and agility."}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "The sightings created a sort of mass hysteria in Mineral Point. So much so that even the police department was"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "affected. Police Lieutenant Bill Trot would later admit that during this time some officers refused to respond to"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "calls at Graceland Cemetery at night. They would only do it during the day. But after those initial 12 days in 1981,"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "reports of the Mineral Point vampire died down. And for many years, it became just another local legend. But then in"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "March of 2004, more than two decades after the initial sightings, something"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "happened. The figure returned. The police department received multiple phone calls from an apartment complex on"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "the edge of town. Residents were claiming that they were being harassed by a strange person. The person, they"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "said, was acting odd. They were hiding in a tree near the building's entrance, and supposedly this person would lunge"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "down at people whenever they walked by, scaring residents who were just trying to get to and from their homes. Officers"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "were dispatched, and when they arrived to investigate, they weren't expecting to find anything out of the ordinary. As"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "they approached the tree, they saw exactly what had been described in the calls. a person with a completely white"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "face wearing a cape perched in the branches high above the ground. But as they approached, it didn't move. It was"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "perfectly still, watching them as they approached. Eventually, one of the officers called up to the figure, asking"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "them to come down from the tree. To the policemen's surprise, the figure complied. But as soon as its feet hit"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "the ground, before officers could approach to question or say anything really, this thing took off running. It"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "turned into a blur, like it was moving with crazy superhuman speed. Naturally,"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "officers immediately started chasing the intruder. But just like Officer John Pepper years before, they couldn't keep"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "up with this. And just like in John's account, they soon thought they had the thing cornered. The police officers"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "pursued the intruder to the edge of the premises where there was this 10-ft concrete wall separating the complex"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "from an adjacent property. But when the stranger reached the wall, they were amazed. Instead of stopping and giving"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "up or changing course, this thing either jumped or somehow flew right over this"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "massive wall. This sent all of them into a mad scramble to get to the other side as quick as possible. They all knew that"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "none of them could replicate what they had witnessed, so they had to take the long way around. But when they reached"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "the opposite side of the wall, there was no sign of the figure on the other side. Just like in 1981, they found tracks"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "leading up to the wall. But this time, there were some scuff marks on the concrete, but there were no tracks or"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "any other indication that anyone had landed. It was like the moment the intruder was out of sight, they just"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "vanished. Unfortunately, the officers found nothing over the course of their entire search. It had simply"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "disappeared. These modern sightings of the Mineral Point vampire are strange enough on their own, but they become"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "even stranger when you look at the region's history. According to local researchers, the region around Mineral"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "Point has long been associated with a supernatural entity known as the Ridgeway Phantom or the Ridgeway Ghost."}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "Stories of it reportedly appeared in the area as early as the 19th century. It already had a lot of belief around it"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "and people said that it followed a pattern of 40ear cycles and that the phantom was actually a shape shifter."}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "Sometimes it would take the form of a headless horseman cracking a whip as it rode through the countryside. Other"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "times it appeared as nothing more than a glowing fireball floating above the fields or as a young woman or old woman"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "standing by the road. It could even take on the form of animals like sheep, dogs, or other farm animals which would chase"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "travelers at night before vanishing. It was also said to be connected to two brothers who were murdered in a bar"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "brawl back in the 1840s. Their spirits could not rest, so they returned to haunt the living in various forms. When"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "you consider the 40-year cycle that's mentioned in connection with the Ridgeway Phantom, it doesn't really line"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "up with the sightings of the 1980s and early 2000s. But at the same time, is it"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "possible that what people are describing as the Mineral Point vampire is actually just the latest manifestation of this"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "centuries old boogeyman? It's a theory that gains some traction when you consider another strange connection to"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "Mineral Point. It's linked to one of Horror's most iconic figures. Film legend Vincent Price, known for his"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "roles in countless classic films, has deep family ties to Mineral Point. His mother was from Mineral Point and his"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "ancestors were prominent citizens of the town. It turns out the Cobb family was quite wealthy and influential in the"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "area. But strangely, his ancestors are buried in the Graceland Cemetery, the"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "very same one where officer John Pepper first encountered the Mineral Point vampire in ' 81. In a 1983 interview,"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "just 2 years after the first vampire sightings, Price acknowledged that he knew about Mineral Point and all the"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "stranges of the area from stories that his parents had told him. Could the Mineral Point vampire somehow be"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "connected to Vincent Price's family? In 1991, Bob Weir was elected police chief"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "of Mineral Point a decade after the initial vampire sightings. His statement on the matter is interesting. He said"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "this, \"We have no records of the three events you are looking for. I started here in '91. I don't recall the two"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "reports attached or any reports of possible vampire sightings during my employment here. We have assisted the"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "Iowa County Sheriff's Department with numerous calls at London Lake, but none involving a pale-faced suspect in a"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "cape. We looked through our electronic records from March and July of 2008 and found nothing remotely close to the"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "attached reported calls. In 2011, author Chad Lewis, who has extensively studied"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "the Mineral Point vampire legend, discussed the 1981 sighting on Coast to Coast. Lewis had actually located"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "officer John Pepper and interviewed him. Jon was deeply affected by what happened"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "that night. It wasn't a hoax. Shortly after the encounter, Jon transferred to another county sheriff's department."}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "Even now, he avoids discussing it. He just wants to move on with his life. But in 2022, a clue emerged. A report in the"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "Dodgeville Chronicle claimed that a man named Ruben Riley had confessed to being the vampire before his death 5 years"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "earlier. However, this claim came from a family member after his death. And even if Riley was responsible for some of the"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "sightings, it can't explain all of the reported sightings over the decades. nor does it account for the supernatural"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "abilities or ability to not leave any tracks as described by witnesses. Many"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "other researchers who have deeply investigated this case believe that any record police report have been deeply"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "sanitized and removed. For Brandon Hines, Jaime Marker, and officer John Pepper, and the countless others who"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "claim to have encountered this mysterious figure, the question isn't whether the Mineral Point vampire"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "exists. The question is, what is it and why does it continue to prey on this"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "small community? And probably most concerning of all is, were police records from these sightings and"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "encounters truly erased? Another very bizarre and documented case came out of"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "Elmwood just 5 years before the Mineral Point encounters. On Thursday night in"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "April of 1976, George Wheeler was about to make a routine call that would change"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "his life forever in the worst way possible. But he didn't know that yet. All the 66-year-old reserve police"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "officer knew was that someone had reported an orange glow above the Tuttle Hill limestone quarry just outside of"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "Elwin, Wisconsin. It was probably kids setting a fire. Maybe someone is burning trash illegally. In a town of 700"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "people, these were the kinds of calls you got on a Thursday night. Wheeler drove his patrol car up the winding road"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "toward the quarry. The orange glow was getting brighter. Must be a pretty big fire. He'd probably have to call the"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "fire department, write up a report, and maybe issue a citation. When he crested the hill and got a clear view of the"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "quarry, Wheeler hit the brakes. What he was looking at wasn't a fire. Hovering"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "about a 100 ft above the ground was a silver disc the size of a two-story house. The orange glow was coming from a"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "dome on top of the craft. So bright it was like looking into the sun. Six"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "bluish white lights ran along the side and there were windows, actual port holes. And inside the windows, Wheeler"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "could see shadows moving. The thing had legs sticking out from its underside like landing gear, except it wasn't. It"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "wasn't landing at all. It was just hovering and there was something else. This black tube kind of like a hose"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "extending down from the craft into the trees below like it was siphoning something. Wheeler grabbed his radio and"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "his hands were shaking and he says, \"My god, it's one of those UFOs again.\" \"Wait, again?\" Before dispatch could"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "respond, the craft started to rise. Wheeler watched it climb higher into the sky and then came a flash. A brilliant"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "blue light burst from the craft and hit Wheeler's patrol car. There was a loud"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "whoosh and then everything went dead and the engine cut out. Something hit"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "Wheeler. Not the car, him. He couldn't see it, but he felt it pass through him"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "like electricity, but not quite. It was like heat, but cold at the same time."}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "His vision blurred, his head spun. He slumped in the driver's seat trying to understand what happened. And then the"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "radio crackled back to life. The dispatcher's voice said, \"Unit 2, do you need assistance?\" But he could barely"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "speak. When he was able to, he said, \"I've been hit. I've been hit by a UFO.\""}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "Now, a few minutes later, David Mootz pulled up to the scene. Mootz wasn't a"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "cop. He was just a local who'd heard the call on a scanner and came rushing to help. He found Wheeler still in his"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "patrol car, pale as a sheet and trembling. The officer was trying to get out of the car, but couldn't seem to"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "manage it. His legs weren't working right. Mootz asked George what had happened. Wheeler looked at him and told"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "him one of those UFOs had hit him. Mootz would later tell investigators that Wheeler kept saying, \"One of those"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "UFOs.\" Like this wasn't the first one. Like UFOs were something people in"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "Elmwood already knew about. And as it turned out, Mootz was right. That same"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "night, at the exact same time Wheeler was at the quarry, other people saw it,"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "too. A housewife on the other side of town reported seeing a bright orange object shaped like a half moon hovering"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "over Tuttle Hill. Paul Frederickson got a call from the police chief's wife telling him to look outside, and when he"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "did, he saw an orange glow over the quarry. They all saw the same thing, and they all reported it. But George Wheeler"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "was the only one who got close. Wheeler was taken to the hospital that very night, but doctors couldn't find"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "anything physically wrong. But he wasn't right. He had a splitting headache that"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "wouldn't go away. He was weak, like his body had been drained of energy, and he had horrible, horrible nightmares. Every"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "time he closed his eyes, he was back in the car watching the light come toward him. The doctors decided to keep him for"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "several days, running test after test, but everything came back normal. All they could really do was send him home"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "with some painkillers and told him to rest. But a few weeks after the encounter, Wheeler couldn't remember"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "what had happened. The man who had given a detailed report about the craft now said it was all fuzzy, like trying to"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "remember a dream. He knew something had happened at the quarry. Meanwhile, investigators were looking at Wheeler's"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "patrol car. What they found baffled them. Every single spark plug port was"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "burned out. The starter was fried, and it was obvious this wasn't normal electrical failure. Something had hit"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "that car with massive amounts of electromagnetic energy. But Wheeler had"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "just had the car serviced. We're talking a full tuneup. Everything was working great right before he drove to that"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "quarry. And over the next few months, Wheeler's health continued to worsen."}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "The headaches turned into blackouts and he became very physically weak. He could"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "barely get out of bed. His family basically watched him waste away and no"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "doctor could explain why. By October, just 6 months after his initial encounter, George Wheeler was dead. The"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "doctors could not explain it. A healthy 66-year-old man had encountered something at that quarry and 6 months"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "later he was gone. There was no medical explanation, just dead. Shortly after the encounter, a federal UFO working"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "group showed up in Elmwood. Nobody knew exactly who they were, FBI, Air Force, or some other agency, but they were"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "asking questions. People reported seeing men in black suits at the quarry, interviewing eyewitnesses, and taking"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "all sorts of measurements. They spent days investigating. The initial report Wheeler filed appeared in the April 1976"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "APRO bulletin, which is a private UFO research newsletter. It was a big deal enough that university professors came"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "to investigate themselves. Unfortunately, answers never came. Nothing was ever released to the public"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "about this. But there's a twist to the story. It turns out that Elmwood had"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "been having UFO sightings for months and months around this time. And the night of his encounter, Wheeler alluded to"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "multiple UFO sightings. The whole town knew something was happening, but nobody wanted to talk about it, at least not"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "officially. The theory is that Wheeler was silenced because of what he knew and investigated. And to take it even a step"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "further, it's speculated that when the military came in, they weren't investigating UFO sightings. They were"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "investigating Wheeler making sure he wasn't going to talk. Because if a UFO"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "could kill a police officer with some kind of directed energy weapon, if multiple witnesses could see it and the"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "government could investigate it and then pretend none of it happened, what else were they hiding? In a similar turn of"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "events, in the early morning hours of August 16th that same year, a park"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "ranger named Dean Anderson was cutting grass at Peninsula State Park in Egg"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "Harbor, Wisconsin. The golf course needed to be perfect before the first players arrived. Dean steered his riding"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "lawnmower across the fairway, but as he began his work, he saw someone on the course. Initially, he figured it was a"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "trespasser, maybe someone who was drunk and had wandered onto the fairway. It does happen. So, he turned the mower and"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "headed toward that way. He got within 10 ft before he realized this wasn't a drunk. This wasn't even normal. This was"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "some sort of figure. And get this, his descriptions are wild. The figure stood"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "over six feet wearing what looked like a shiny spacuit. A black helmet covered"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "its head and on the helmet was an insignia, a dog's head. The helmet began flashing. So did the figure's belt. Dean"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "was about to back the mower away when this beam of light shot out from the figure and the beam hit the mower. The"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "engine died instantly. Dean in a panic tried to restart it, but it wouldn't do"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "anything. And a second beam hit Dean directly and his whole body went numb."}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "He couldn't move. He could barely breathe. He just sat there on his dead mower watching this person in a spacuit"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "not even 20 ft away from him. A light appeared above both of them. And Dean"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "managed to move his eyes upward and saw this small glowing craft dropping down"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "from the sky. It hovered just above the fairway and a door opened up in the side"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "and the figure in the spacuit turned and just walked toward it. It floated upward, drifted up through the door like"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "it didn't weigh anything. The door then closed. The craft shot straight up and left this trail of light and then it was"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "gone. The numbness in Dean's body faded after a few moments and he couldn't believe what had just transpired. He"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "thought he was going to go crazy. His mower started on the first try, but something had happened internally to"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "Dean. First off, who on earth is he going to tell, and what is he going to say? But secondly, he could see that"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "there was proof on their fairway that there were these very large footprints pressed into the grass. Supposedly, he"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "measured and photographed them and estimated them to be about 8 in wide and"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "spaced 5 ft apart. Whatever made them were not human at the time. He continued"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "to keep quiet and just went back to work. Well, one week later on August 23rd, 1976, at the same time, roughly 4"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "or 4:15, he was cutting grass again at the same place. And this time, it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "a small craft. This thing was huge. It dropped down fast and landed in the"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "cover between the fairways. Dean cut the mower engine immediately, and he sat there stunned watching this happen. A"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "door opened in the side and two figures emerged. They descended to the ground on"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "what looked like a band of light, like an escalator made of pure energy. Each of them carried something in their"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "hands, what Dean would later describe as a long, thin object that glowed like a"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "candle. The craft lifted off the ground and hovered about 20 ft up. The two figures started walking toward Dean, and"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "actually walking this time, not floating. As they approached him, they could see them more clearly in his"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "mower's headlights. One appeared to be male with coppered colored skin, and the other was female, shorter, maybe 5'2."}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "She was doing something with her clothing. She was removing an outer suit, revealing a form-fitting green"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "outfit underneath. The male figure raised his hand, not in a threat, but in greeting, like a wave, and then he spoke"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "in English, perfect clear English, \"We come in peace. I am Sununar from"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "Jupiter. This is Trina. She comes from Saturn. He explained that they were on a"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "scientific mission. They were collecting samples, soil, water, leaves, plants,"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "animals, insects. They needed them for analysis. And for 20 minutes, they"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "supposedly sat there talking to each other and even answered his questions matterofactly like it was completely"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "normal. At one point, Sununarm mentioned something that shook Dean and said, \"We know about your motorcycle troublemaker"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "from last week. As it turns out, Dean had chased somebody off the course the previous week, a guy on a motorcycle"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "who'd been tearing up the fairways, but Dean hadn't told that to anyone.\" Sooner smiled and explained, \"That was Mutant."}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "He's from Mars. He won't bother you again.\" This is already really strange as you're hearing now. Now, as they"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "prepared to leave, Trina put her outer suit back on, and she walked over to Dean and pressed something into his"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "hand. It was a yellow nylon envelope, and she said, \"Take this gift in peace"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "in remembrance of our meeting. We shall meet again, but don't open that for 9"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "more days.\" The craft descended. The beam of light appeared, and the two rose up like they were riding an invisible"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "elevator. After that, they were gone. When Dean finally opened the envelope 9 days later, he found what was inside to"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "be impossible. A gold colored amulet about the size of a silver dollar. And"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "on one side was an engraving of a bird that looked like a dove. On the other side were words that made Dean's hands"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "shake. It said, \"Peace and friendship forever. Trina and Sununar.\" Dean"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "actually went back to the fairway later that morning when the sun was up and photographed more prints where they'd"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "stood. He kept the amulet. He kept the envelope. All physical proof that it happened. But this is where the story"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "kind of just drops out. There is no reliable public record showing the amulet, the envelope, the photographs."}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "Nor does there appear to be any follow-up investigations, interviews, or anyone that has examined these things. I"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "mean, it is possible that because this was from a newspaper reporting in 1977"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "and other various UFO cataloges, it might have just gotten buried in the ether. Or maybe, like Mr. Wheeler, he"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "was afraid of coming forward with it and facing repercussions, or worse. Is it possible that he's speaking the truth"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "and is just too terrified to publicize his findings? or did this report simply"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "become buried and lost into obscurity to keep the public from ever knowing? You guys have the information. You're going"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "to have to make up your own conclusions. While there does appear to be a connection between all three of these"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "cases and obvious information suppression, the truth behind all of it remains a mystery. And because you guys"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "made it this far, I want you to all comment down below Wisconsin weirdness"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "so that way I know who made it to the end and who didn't. And if you guys enjoy storytelling like this, where we"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "deep dive into strange cases of the mysterious and supernatural, what are you waiting for? Smack that like and"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "subscribe button right now for more content just like this. As always, never forget, I love you all. Keep an open"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "mind, and I'll see you all in the very next episode. [Music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "This is Heckle Vish at the Pork Shop Express and I'm talking to whoever's listening out there. It's like I told my"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "last wife. I says, \"Honey, I never drive faster than I can see. Besides that,"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "it's all in the reflexes. You just listen to the Pork Chop Express"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "and take his advice on a dark and stormy night. All right. When some wildeyed 8-ft tall maniac grabs your neck, taps"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "the back of your favorite head up against a barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye, and he asks you, \"Have you paid your dues?\" Well, you"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "just stare that big sucker back in the eye, and remember what old hecklefish always says at a time like that. Have"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "you paid your dues, Fish? Yes, sir. The check is in the mail."}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "Well, you see, I'm not saying that I've been everywhere and I've done everything, but I do know it's a pretty amazing planet we live on here. And a"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "man would have to be some kind of fool to think we're all alone in this universe."}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "on the neck."}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "That's [Music]"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "what"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "We're going off the rails on a crazy train."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "Crazy. You"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "party. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "Another theory is that it's a Foo Fighter. Hello. I've waited here for you"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "ever long during night. I throw myself into"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "out of the red out of a head. She sang."}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "And I wonder yo what? Foo Fighters. I know the song, but"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "may I? Yeah, go ahead with the story about your alien balls."}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "Okay. So, I ask AJ, anything you'd like from Thomas Jane says answers. The only thing I would want would be a promo from"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "Jane saying to the camera. Oh man, I can't. It was going to take me"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "a long time to memorize this. Expected you an hour ago."}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "It's a long hoof from the medina. Sir, this is your Baratina. Your Baratina Miller telling you to watch the wash"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "vials. Belta iota. Oh, I I"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "I think I said it right. Wait, is that belt? Yeah, it's belt"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "louder, isn't it? Belt."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "Yeah, now I'm back to memorizing lines. Tell AJ you. That's That's the answer."}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "Thank you. That's the answer. You stay there. Right there."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "Coleman Coleman got to die some time about now."}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "This is your Baratna brother Miller. This is your Baratina Miller telling you to watch the Wii files"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "mother."}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "No, this is great. But I'm a huge fan and um I never miss an episode and thank"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "you for doing what you do because I I really think you're helping spread the word in a powerful way and it's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "fun. And uh I was sad that you know you fired the hecklefish. What is this human even talking about?"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "And then you guys had to shut down for a month while heckleish renegotiated his contract or whatever was going on there."}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "But I'm glad I'm glad he's I'm glad you guys are back. I was hoping you guys had axe"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "the fish for good, but somehow he weasled his way back in. So, I'm okay with it for now."}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "Oh yeah. I played a scenario 51. A secret code"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "inside the Bible said I would. I love my UFOs and parano."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "saying it like I should. But then another conspiracy theory"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "becomes the truth, my friends. And it never ends."}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "No, it never ends. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "I feel the crap I got inside."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "of being only two. Did Stanley Cubric fake the moon landing"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "alone on a film set there?"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "[Music] I'm told and his name was"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "I [Music]"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "[Music] All I ever wanted to hear"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "all through the night."}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "The M sidings and the solar storm still come to the secret city underground."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "[Music] Mysterious number station."}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "Oh, I can't believe I'm dancing with the fish"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "on Thursday night."}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "[Music] All I ever wanted was to just hear the truth"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "[Music] on Thursday night when they"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "want to hear the truth."}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "dance. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "Loves to dance. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "Love to dance right on time."}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "[Applause] [Music]"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "Thank you for watching the After Files live stream. This is not a professional production. We don't know why anyone"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "watches this thing, but we're glad you do. And now to kick off the show is everyone's favorite sidekick, the one,"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "the only Hecklefish. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "Welcome back. Your dreams were your ticket out."}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "Welcome back to that same old place that you laughed about."}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "What a name chain you around. But those dreams"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "you need where we need"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "a lot. [Music] Welcome back."}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "Welcome back. Welcome back. Welcome back. Welcome back. Welcome back. Yeah, we"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "teach them a lot cuz we got them on the spot. Welcome back."}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "Welcome back. Welcome back. Welcome back. Welcome back. Welcome"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "back. [Music] Welcome back. Welcome back."}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "That's there. Is that on? All right, here we go."}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "Uh, seven. I use hecklefish to help sneak me backstage to so many concerts in the 80s. He was back there."}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "White powder on his gills. It was the 80s. Hey, Fman. Good to see you. True After Dark is here. There's Aiden Hy."}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "Good to see you. Smalls is here. Sean, I don't have money for a super chat, but AJ, thank you. Mom and I binge watch your videos all the way through her"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "battle with lung cancer. Sorry to hear that. I hope mom is doing okay. She loved hecklefish. Oh, she's gone. I'm"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "sorry to hear that, my friend. Cancer hits my family hard uh pretty pretty uh"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "pretty often. Drag, while the intro is playing, I'm going to go finish my dinner. I hope"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "you're back. Hey, Mary Jane is here. I see quite a few mods in the chat today."}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "That's nice. Sanszel's here. Oh, I think I put slow mode on. Did I put slow mode"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "on? Eric, hair looking good."}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "Glad to think so. Oh, this c How's this this camera alignment? Do we fix this? Is this"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "This live stream is so disappointing. Just so so so disappointing."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "Michelle's first live. So excited. Um, keep your expectations down."}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "Travis, I don't have money for a super chat either, but loves the show. Appreciate that. Look, if money's tight,"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "don't worry about the super chat. And um I have this the super chats get starred"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "so I see all of those but I I keep the main chat open as well so you don't have to pay money to to weigh in."}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "Brock Ryan Wicked Brag with that weird owl badge and it just it just happens to be angled just just so you can see VIP"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "backstage for the tour for the first show. If you guys have never seen Weird Owl, even if you're not a big fan, which"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "I am, he puts on an amazing show. An amazing show. And this one, I hope he"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "does it forever. I mean, he's what, 62, 63. He does all the costumes"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "and um, man, I'm trying to think which one. I mean, he does all the way back to Fat."}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "He Al's not worried about being cancelled and uh, with the Fat costume,"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "the Star Wars songs he does, he did the medley was amazing. But what what made me jump out of my seat, my front row"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "seat, was uh when he came out on the segue for White and Nerdy. I mean, I lost it."}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "Lost it. Chakar's first live stream. Good to see you. There's LRP. Bruno is here. Good to see you. Lisa, Ernesto,"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "Margaret, what's up, Ekko? See, I saw you pop up. Uh what's the show prep?"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "All right. What are we going to cover today? Now, we're going to take a look at the Hellfire missile bouncing off the UFO"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "off the coast of Yemen. That video was released, so we'll take a look at that. The uh we'll talk a little bit about"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "three Atlas. Is it an alien ship? Is it a comet? What's weird? The weird the"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "weird lights. Why is it blue? Um after 70 years, we finally know what the lights were at the Palomar Observatory"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "that were photographed in the 50s. And the answer connects to nuclear weapons testing."}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "Uh we've confirmed three interstellar objects so far. But scientists think there could be"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "10,000. And we've got some weird discoveries uh"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "underwater as well. By Kijijia, uh great job on Ryan and"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "Rogan. I'm glad you liked it. Both are good dudes. Uh Sean is the best. Uh Sean"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "and I have a collab coming up in a week or two, so keep your eye out for that. There's a little teaser on Instagram,"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "which uh you don't have to I don't post a lot on there. Hey, Jackie. Jackie Johnson's here."}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "Indie weather going with 31 Atlas. All right, let's do it. Irwin, uh it's just"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "a rock floating around. All right, let's do a poll."}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "Uh, three eye atlas."}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "Hang on. Hang on. Dang it."}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "No, it's still there. Hang on."}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "The camera's not charged is the issue. So, you know how that"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "goes. Yikes. You call this a live stream? How are you not embarrassed? Well, we'll see how long it how long it"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "lasts. Uh, Chuck and see. Yeah, I don't know how long it's going to last. Let's"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "try the backup camera. Hang on."}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "All right. If we have to I mean, if we have to, we got we've got the roving cam."}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "All right. Hopefully, we won't have to. Chelsea, After Files 2, I feel so spoiled today."}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "We're spoiling you. BDW aliens drain the batteries. always"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "happens. I I know it's cuz we're live, but it's not a professional uh uh"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "stream. Uh the other AJ's here. So happy to"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "finally join the live stream. Uh how did you guys do for Thanksgiving? Did you clean up with the Snickers minis?"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "What about what about costumes? Who had the best costume?"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "stock. You saw you saw the stream decks."}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "O yeah, there you guys are."}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "But the stream decks aren't working. You think this passes for a live stream?"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "Think again. Alien ship is leading the poll."}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "Steph just saw a UFO. Well, let's send a send a pick."}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "Rep. Bam. Aliens made the Blue Jays lose. Well, thank goodness for the aliens. Didn't like that they knocked the Yankees out so easily."}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "David Red asking for Thanksgiving. Yeah, I'm going to stream on Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving, Christmas Eve, and New"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "Year's Eve. Joe P will be there. The official beard. His beard is looking very beardly lately. Very beardly."}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "Maria, I want three Atlas to be an alien ship. You kind I don't think you do. I really don't think you want that."}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "You know, I subscribe to the dark forest theory. You guys know that one"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "where um the universe is like a dark forest. So any civilization that reaches"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "a sufficient level of technology should just be quiet because if there are more advanced alien races out there, they'll"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "they will try to eliminate any competitors. So I don't think we want three Atlas to"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "be an alien ship. I really don't. Yo, Bumpy, good to see you,"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "Billy. I refuse to believe that people wanted a link in conspiracy video before anything else. No, they did. I didn't"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "come up with that one. Every topic comes from you guys. I didn't want to do that one. I like"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "history stories, but they don't perform as well. What performs well? Aliens, UFOs,"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "pyramids, Tesla, but I want I want to mix in more of that stuff."}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "Ty web will kindly greet our new alien overlords. You'll be safe."}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "You'd be like worm tongue."}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "Oh, I said Thanksgiving, Doug. No, I meant Halloween. Halloween costumes."}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "Aring hanging in Henderson. That's that's right around the corner from here"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "up up in Vegas. Uh Martin says, \"Load of nonsense through Atlas.\""}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "A lobe, I think, uh he's he's stretching it. But his articles get clicks."}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "Himer Mill's hole performs well. It does. Everyone likes a hole. I mean, we had a hole this week."}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "Uh, Zer wanting to do a video on the Melbourne UFO. I covered it as a chapter. I haven't done a full video on it, but that is a great UFO story."}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "That's the one at the at the school, right? There was a lot of witnesses to that, including teachers."}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "Growl's layer 3 Atlas aka Nibiru. I don't think so. But Nir Nibirro might be"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "out there. I mean NASA doesn't really talk about it that much, but they are actively looking for"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "another large object that's far far out there."}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "Obby has other motivations, says Travis. Yeah, money."}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "I don't um Jack, I don't I haven't covered flat earth mostly because flatearthers are very emotional and it"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "will really clog up the comment section and they can be they could be mean."}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "Harley B. Yeah, the Nazis opened the portal. I mean maybe, but they they"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "covered it back up. Stingray Avi be like, \"Show me the funding.\""}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "Eslanavi, I think, brings attention to the stubborn dogmatic thinking of most scientists. It may not be an alien object, but I think he's making"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "important points. I agree. I'm glad he's out there. I don't agree with most of what he says. And what happened with his underwater expedition when he was"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "searching for alien tech? I don't know what happened with that."}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "Tim, good to see you. Cat's lobe smiles and laughs too much for me. He must be kind of dark."}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "John, does this look infected? Yeah, you may want to see somebody about that."}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "So, someone So, Mikey's um our number one uh chatter today. Someone asked Lo directly last week if he thought it was"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "artificial or natural. He said natural. Well, good. Mr. Steve, why can't"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "flatearthers be levelheaded? Nice."}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "Okay. Hey, that was that was funny. So, Raal uh asking about what about"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "famous unsolved murder cases? I don't cover those because for some reason this is a family channel"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "and murder cases have murders and victims. That's why I don't cover missing 411 or anything like that. I"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "direct people to David Polites. So, they're just kind of dark stories. So, I I kind of I stay away from them."}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "Lord Cidius. I haven't covered DLA as a full episode, but I've definitely mentioned it in chapters. They never"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "built it. So, uh, we would just be speculating, but it's on the list to cover with, um,"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "a Vmana episode that I'm working on specifically about the rotating mercury. I'm just I'm fascinated by that. And"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "allegedly, DLA used rotating mercury. So, I want to see see about that."}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "Hybrid is gifting memberships. All right, what's going on in the super chats? There's there's Mike 499. Been a long time. Misch and hecklefish. As we"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "head into the holidays, want to invite more peeps to come join us on the Patreon. It's great. Yeah, go check out"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "Patreon. We plug. Is it time to plug? All right, there's the Wi-Fi store."}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "What I really want to show you guys, I don't think these are sold out yet."}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "Let me search. Let me see where the calendars are. The calendars came out really great. All right, there they are. Uh calendars"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "came out great. Let me make my make my head bigger here"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "just hold it up for you. Heavy 25 bucks. They're really nice."}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "They exceeded my expectations, which is why I'm plugging it because, you know, I don't I I do plugs beginning and after."}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "That's about it. But I'm really proud of these. Uh, Rob did an amazing job with the art"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "and super funny. Super funny. So, what what do we have for January? We've got"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "Dress Up Your Pet Day, Milk Day, Atlantis Remembrance Day,"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "Psychic Rodent Prophecy Day. That's Groundhog's Day. Is Psychic Rodent Prophecy Day."}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "It's better by Flowers Day. That's That's for Mother's Day. My birthday's in here. I didn't I didn't"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "approve that. We're green day and it's got all of our favorite art in there."}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "So, that's uh the wow store shop at the wiles.com if you want to support your favorite"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "YouTube channel or or the W files. And the prices are low. We keep the prices low"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "so everybody can afford to shop. And if you can't, then don't."}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "But uh but I'm proud of our merch and uh and the and the team that handles that. Victoria, Eric, Haley, everybody."}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "MK, shout out to SMK. Yeah, that SMK Rob does the uh does all the art for the channel."}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "Not a bot. Fear the crabcat."}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "I haven't heard about zombies in Iraq, but I will I will look into that for sure. Uh drop top super excited. Usually"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "at work. Fear the crabcat. Yeah, I thought we'll do a quick after files on a Sunday afternoon."}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "Brans loves the set. I'm actually I'm at the man cave in my house."}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "Set up a little bar back here. I don't think. Let's see if I can"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "There we go. I feel like three Atlas is a scop, man."}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "I don't think it is, but I like the way you think. Uh, and Archa, do you do all your"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "research yourself? I have partners, co-workers, too, in the back end. Um, we have Ham who does all the initial research and gets everything laid out"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "for me, drops some story ideas, and then before I write the script, I'll go"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "through all his research, do a little bit of my own to make sure I understand the story I'm writing about because I"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "did a couple of episodes where I didn't do the research. I just I just read the research and just did the episode and a"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "couple of things were wrong and I don't like that. Uh, I don't mind being wrong if I'm wrong, but I don't like being"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "wrong because I didn't do the work. William, I haven't done a Contrails"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "episode, but I've mentioned it here and there because I'm not a Contrail believer,"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "but a lot of people asked for that. Secondhand citizen, everything is a scout. Well, I'm glad that that you're"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "talking about that because that's the collab with with Sean Ryan is um is government scops is what we're focusing"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "on. Captain, what's your opinion on the latest crash at Area 51? I think it's"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "just an experimental aircraft that went down. I don't think there's anything of the There's no alien stuff at Area 51"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "anymore. I think that's all been moved. Probably for quite a while."}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "How would you do Bob Lazar information?"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "That's that's very interesting. We'll probably have uh Jeremy on the basement if he's willing to come. The basement is"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "going to be uh conversation podcast/ep episodes that will be"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "launching probably at the beginning of the year. Well, I'll sit down with folks, have a chat. There's Steve Burton for"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "five Canadian bang episode. Currently, the CEX gigas is uh on display in Prague. That's cool. It's cool that the"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "Swedes let it go. I mean, it's it's from there."}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "I know countries were fighting over it after the war. Adam, thank you for the $20 super sticker."}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "A quantum sledgehammer 50 bucks. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "They see me swimming in my waist. Send me money cuz you know that my bowl is"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "dirty. Cuz you know my bowl is dirty. Cuz you know my bowl is dirty. Want to smell my bowl? It's dirty. Come snip my"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "bowl. It's dirty. My poop is nasty. It's floating. Please tip me cuz you know"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "that my bowl is dirty. Cuz you know my bowl is dirty cuz you know my bowl is dirty. Want to smell my dirty"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "dirty. Quantum sledgehammer Denver. I love a good after files. My favorite day of the week. I have nothing profound to say as"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "usual other than thanks so much for all you do and the crew files out there. Uh we love the stories and love how you"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "tell them. Be safe my friend. Thanks. Uh, thanks Quant."}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "Appreciate that. Uh, I saw something in the chat I want to write down from Michelle."}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "Ecklefish nightlight. That That is a great idea. This human right here, this human gets"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "it. That's a great idea."}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "So, backstage has been fun. Currently at 21,000 XP. I I'm not even sure how XP"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "works. Do you get one point per chat? I'm not sure how that works."}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "And boy says the earth is expanding. I I read that too."}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "We always dirty bowl. That's obscene. He's he's a naughty naughty fish."}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "Snarky thanking for the free memberships. Uh I don't know who's sending. I think Hybrid sent a few. I"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "appreciate you guys spreading the love. That's very nice of you. Mischief is in the chat."}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "if you're still on AOL. She's a skater girl 13 on there if you want to hit her up with a DM."}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "Juliana, that's a heckled chess game is a great idea. It's just so bulky cuz um"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "except for the t-shirts, we pack and ship everything ourselves from uh from the studio. It's It's a mess back there."}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "So, I think chess sets might be too big,"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "but I'll definitely look into it. It's a great idea."}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "Sexy lumberjack likes chess. Uh, yes. Hecklefish coloring book. Rob is working on that right now. So, we will we will"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "definitely have that later. Scasta AOL is still a thing. I still have my AOL address."}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "I bet a lot of people here do. Richard Taylor, uh, do you plan on doing a VMA video? I do. I do. I don't know if"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "it'll be out before the end of the year, but we're definitely going to cover it."}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "Uh, stop. AJ, how did you get a gig on the History Channel? Uh, they called me and I I agreed to do"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "it. I I I don't They asked me to come back to do another round. I've been on"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "four or five episodes, but I don't think I'm going to be able to get out there and do it, but I have to check with Jen."}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "She's handling the schedule, but Those guys have been really nice to"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "me. Oh, and working around my schedule. It's been been nice working with this Prometheus Entertainment and they do all"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "those ancient aliens and all those kind of shows. We're talking about the unexplained."}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "Great Green didn't have AOL on CompuServe. Same. I was over there too in the 70s."}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "Sandy Jones. I'll check that out. Forbidden Zone in the Grand Canyon. I'll take a look at that. Hey, Lori B. Fat"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "alien unexplained with three exclamation points. Yeah, with William Shatner."}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "And no, I I never get to meet him."}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "All right, where are we with the super chats? Got that one. Got Ken's. Here's Mike. So, if you"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "consider asking for an update to your great closing theme song, it's a good question. Or why mess with perfection?"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "That's a good question. Uh, I'm afraid to ask because it's not like"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "I commissioned that work. That was just he just sent that as who is it? Hybrid,"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "straight jacket, Superman, Super Jacket, Spaceman. I always forget."}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "And people send me a lot of MP3s and stuff like that and they're usually awful. But I opened that one up, the"}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "theme song, and it was just I couldn't believe how perfect it was. I I I had no improvements for it."}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "So, I'm just kind of leaving it alone. If he sends an update, I'll swap it out. I think it's hard once you once you hit"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:43", "text": "that perfect sweet spot. You kind of don't want to mess with perfection. Mike,"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "there's Carol spreading the love. Appreciate that. Echoneess, what's up?"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "Moonlight 410 on behalf of everyone who wanted to, you're doing great. Trying to see what"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "that emoji is. Smiley heart."}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "I'm I'm a little rusty with my asky emojis."}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "Marlene, I found the wife husband. I was trying to prove a theory by myself as a scientist like four or five or six years ago and found myself watching because it"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "was less research time for me. I'm glad I can I can I can help."}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "Now, go do your own research. There already already enough YouTube channels that use my research and"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "scripts and B-roll and ideas. There's St. Solitude for 55. What do you think about the new Area 51 crash that happened recently? I think it was just a"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "a plane that went down. I don't think there's anything cool over there anymore."}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "I think there was, but I'm pretty sure all that stuff got moved."}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "Uh, Robson 499. uh dub your videos to Portuguese so I can send to my Brazilian friends your content needs to be worldwide appreciated we're working with"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "a company to do that for other languages other dubs so that's coming but"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "for that sarcastic for10 before the alien overloads how could I get a heck ofish plushy in the UK my granddaughter"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "loves the fish we don't ship overseas only because it's too expensive but you"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "know I'm constantly harping on how I keep the prices down I need the price I want the prices down So, when we first"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "launched the store, I think someone ordered from Czechoslovakia, some somewhere like that, Czech Republic,"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "whatever, whatever you call it, $25 t-shirt and shipping was $40. And they"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "didn't complain. I just saw the order come through. And I feel like I don't want people to think I'm scamming because we don't the shipping. We don't"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "collect any of that. That's, you know, that that goes to Printify and those companies. So that's really the only"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "reason later Castro is I just I don't want people to think I'm scamming for shipping. It's so expensive to ship over"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "there. If you have a friend in the States, open a ticket on Discord. Let me know and"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "I'll I'll send a I'll send a plushy over there at my on me and we'll find a way"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "to get it to you. Jack Tough for 10 ding uh for you to cover Operation Northwoods. Love you guys."}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:20", "text": "I wonder if if I covered that in another episode. So that's a false flag attack."}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "False flag attack uh to try to get us into Cuba. I think I'm remembering that correctly. I think I might have covered"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "that in another episode. Something one of the JFK episodes."}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "Nightbor with a with a with a public service announcement. Oh yeah. Got go out, take your phone cam and zoom in on"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "the stars. There's like 10 floating spinning drones in the air over Norway"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "every night. You can zoom in and see the morph. That's true. The um I think it's"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:59", "text": "the Hestan lights up there that no one can really explain what they are."}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "Uh welcome new members. There's Josh. There's Derek Sabcat."}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "And the membership is there's not extra content on there. I mean, there's a little bit, but you don't miss any of"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "the stories for if you're a member. You just get a coupon code for for merch."}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "So, if you if you're going to buy merch, you you join. I think it's $3 a month. You get a coupon code. So, if you're"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "going to spend 40 bucks, you join, you get the code, and it pays for itself. But, that's really the only value that's"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "there. I put a I put some extra stuff on there, but not a lot. All the extra goodies go to the Patreon members."}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "Jose, your price is very uh reasonable compared to some other things I've seen on other shows. Agreed."}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "There's there's a couple of channels that I wanted to buy merch from, but I'm not going to spend $35 on a t-shirt or"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "$40 on a mug that's not even fistable."}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "You know, our mugs are 100% fistable. 20 ounces."}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "Eyes wide open. The Great Deception. They're interdimensional fallen ones. You might be right about that. Regarding"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:16", "text": "UFOs, Alvaro, uh, we all know at this point we're not alone. I tend to agree."}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "Here's Hybrid spreading the love. Northern Tribe biblically accurate mug."}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "Is that true? Father, dad, slow-mo don't apply when you're a member. I didn't know that. Richard Taylor, that's a big"}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "ass mug. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:41", "text": "That's a big ass shot."}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "Do I watch the After Files live stream or do I punch myself in the face? Tough decision."}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:55", "text": "Stay Hellcat for five. Haven't been subscribed long enough to chat, but long enough to send money. Well, you're appreciated. Yeah, I think we have uh"}, {"start": "00:38:55", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "you have to be a subscriber for eight weeks to be on there. It just helps keep keep the chat fun and"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "calm. Like I used to simoc cast these streams to"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:15", "text": "Twitch to X/ Twitter and to Facebook. I stopped doing it because you can't"}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "control who chatting and Facebook viewers were the worst."}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "Everything was like a no matter what I'm talking about, there was political opinions from Facebook. Uh, no matter"}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "I'm talking about aliens, they want to talk about Trump and Biden. That's that's what Facebook wants to talk"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "about. And I'm not interested in doing that here. But TWW says maybe three eyes is alien,"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "but designed to draw off the anger of the sun solar maximum away from Earth."}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "So maybe it's helping us. Barry, two super chats flying to the USA"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "in 8 days to see my wife. First time outside of Oz. got married in May here in Queensland. Going to see her and most"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "of her family for Thanksgiving in Wisconsin. Well, welcome back."}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:07", "text": "Do is does your wife live in Wisconsin and you live in Australia?"}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "Let me know how that's working. I'm interested in that. Jen's not she's not paying attention. I"}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "can get away with whatever I want. Yeah, I'm fine."}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "Andrew 5 Canadian. Maybe don't give it a Masonic name if you want us to believe it. Three Atlas. That's I hadn't thought of that. Or third eye atlas/globe world"}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "i.e. project bluebeam. I like the way you think."}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:36", "text": "Yeah. Don't give it one of those names."}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "Casey got a gifted membership. Awesome. I tried to gift memberships in here, but"}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "it won't let me. But I don't I I'm I'm a little rusty as you can tell."}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "Uh, Beezy's here. Uh, someone asking for Reynolds from Forest. Yeah, I did a full episode on that."}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:05", "text": "I think maybe debunked it, but a lot of people don't like it me debunking it."}, {"start": "00:41:05", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "John G, thank you for the $10 super stick. Appreciate that."}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:16", "text": "See the flatearthers, you see how they are? It's all caps lock is always on. If"}, {"start": "00:41:16", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "you're a flat earther, you're you don't even you don't even know what a lowercase characters are. You you caps lock everything."}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:27", "text": "They're passionate."}, {"start": "00:41:29", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "Barry 35 C to zero C for 3 weeks and back to 35 C. Love you,"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "Paula. I don't know what that means."}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "I think uh you might be sending code to agents in the field using super chat which would be genius."}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "Holisticology for 20 keeping it as a family-friendly channel. The jokes are over our kiddos's heads, but I love it and we like to snuggle up and have a"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:05", "text": "good time watching. I'm glad that you think so. I try to keep the even when the jokes are naughty like the the"}, {"start": "00:42:05", "end": "00:42:11", "text": "sponsor ads don't count. Sometimes those are filthy and Haley writes those. She's the spicy ginger. I don't write those"}, {"start": "00:42:11", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "naughty jokes. She does. But the jokes in the episodes I try to It's like how"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "Warner Brothers like Bugs Bunny jokes. If you go back and watch those, there's so many jokes that we didn't get as kids"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:29", "text": "that were for the adults. So like your kids don't know what BDE"}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:36", "text": "is, but you do. There's Chappie for 10. Loves the channel with the creepy uh creepy"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "avatar. I love the profile picture on this one."}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:49", "text": "Gravy, what are the chances of doing an episode on uh itsak Bentoff and Kundalini? I'm gonna I'll write that"}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:56", "text": "down to look into that. This is where I get a lot of the uh the topic ideas"}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "right in here. My spell check doesn't like that word"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:07", "text": "condalini. I'll look into it. I don't believe this is real until my body started to actually unfold and heal"}, {"start": "00:43:07", "end": "00:43:11", "text": "itself. Yeah, I'll definitely look into that."}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "Burger and Got to love a body. Ginger. Uh, is that Gino messing with the the"}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "settings? Don't do that. Oh, hands off. Okay. I just saw the chat"}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:37", "text": "come up. Do I leave it up there?"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "Now we can we can do another poll. Speaking of, how's our poll doing? 51%"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "just the comment chill. 49% alien ship."}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:58", "text": "Wow. I hope you 49% are wrong."}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "The entire internet is have created after World War II. There's something to that. If we're talking uh Arpanet, which"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "was the first internet, that was the DoD and and DARPA created that. So, you"}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "might be on to something. I like the way that kid thinks. Solon for 279 started"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:31", "text": "seeing entities. Black cube of Saturn. I think we're doing something on the black cube of Saturn to check the list. Gino"}, {"start": "00:44:31", "end": "00:44:39", "text": "says yes. Gino's down there. Bring him up in a little bit when we cover some of the news."}, {"start": "00:44:39", "end": "00:44:45", "text": "Ben says, \"Ews are homeless Carebears that lost their magical powers and got hooked on smack.\""}, {"start": "00:44:45", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:56", "text": "Lisa is more worried about space junk. Me, too."}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "Uh, Lori, thank for the super sticker. LRP sending 10 memberships to the chat."}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:10", "text": "What's up, Irvin? John, Travis Helps. Travis shouting out Chino"}, {"start": "00:45:10", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "latest cast throws back, how do you chat on Discord? I think you just type at the bottom, but I don't know. Discord is"}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:23", "text": "confusing to me. Cryptic Sniper William Cooper episode, please. Yep, we're definitely covering"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "um Bill Cooper, Behold a Pale Horse. Uh Bill Cooper, if you don't know, he's was"}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:35", "text": "hosting a radio show before 9/11 and he predicted the attacks and said it would"}, {"start": "00:45:35", "end": "00:45:40", "text": "be false flag. I don't know if you guys watched uh Tucker's documentaries on"}, {"start": "00:45:40", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "911. All the conspiracies I think are true."}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:52", "text": "So anyway, Bill Cooper predicted it and then he predicted that the government was going to kill him and uh the"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "government killed him. He died in a shootout in his front front yard"}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:03", "text": "with uh with with the police. There's C sharp C sharp forever became a member."}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:12", "text": "Good to see you. Cody's been here since 745 subs."}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "All right, Andrew's back. What what what kind of insight does he have for us? Area 51-12"}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:26", "text": "area 3693 to the 3r groom lake runway lengths also also note using the to the"}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "third notation there. Okay. I think he's sending messages to agents in the field. I think he's using"}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:39", "text": "us as a number station right now. Christy, that portrait of Satan is"}, {"start": "00:46:39", "end": "00:46:45", "text": "cursed. It's a It's not a very good curse though because it's kind of It kind of looks"}, {"start": "00:46:45", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "like a fifth grader drew it. It's not really that scary."}, {"start": "00:46:52", "end": "00:47:00", "text": "But uh that was a common depiction of of Satan. That wasn't like um the Gigas Codex wasn't the first"}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:06", "text": "stop propagandist. Alex Jones got his ideas from Cooper. I bet he got some of them from there."}, {"start": "00:47:06", "end": "00:47:11", "text": "Didn't work out well for Alex. Thank you for that super sticker,"}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "Richie. Focus trips cat for 10. Found the wife house four years ago when I was partially paralyzed and a vegetable in"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:22", "text": "the hospital bed after bad accident. I'm sorry about that. Been a huge fan says the channel uses my pen and helps me to get through. I hope you're doing okay,"}, {"start": "00:47:22", "end": "00:47:27", "text": "focus. Hang in there. Lean, did a TARDIS fly by? I didn't"}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "notice that. Master one, where is the Crabcat reinforcements? I hope they stay away."}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:41", "text": "Uh, crap is from the shadow people episode, by the way, where I just I actually tell the story of my own shadow person experience, of which I'm not a"}, {"start": "00:47:41", "end": "00:47:50", "text": "believer, but it was still the scariest thing I've ever experienced before or since. I was in my 30s."}, {"start": "00:47:50", "end": "00:47:59", "text": "Very scary. Uh, Robert says, \"We knitted Mount Mother Fan Haze hooded sweatshirt.\" We don't have one of those."}, {"start": "00:48:04", "end": "00:48:08", "text": "Where are our hoodies?"}, {"start": "00:48:11", "end": "00:48:16", "text": "I know we got the t-shirt. We uh uh we've got we've got this, not a hoodie,"}, {"start": "00:48:16", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "though. So, we need that to be a hoodie. I kind of agree."}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "I just ordered this from the store, which got here in three days, and I didn't pay for that."}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:31", "text": "I like the hoodie. I prefer the hoodie, and I like the zip front."}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:40", "text": "have Mel Gibson on. That'd be interesting. It would."}, {"start": "00:48:44", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "P Rizzle, welcome to the mad house. Lori, thank you for that. Oh, $69. Whoa."}, {"start": "00:48:53", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:12", "text": "booze and I don't know if I can do it."}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:24", "text": "[Music] Wow, thank you for that, Lori. Wait, so"}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:29", "text": "Gigas is yet to be discussed. I haven't really I mean, we could talk more about the book if you want to. I didn't think"}, {"start": "00:49:29", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "there was much else there, but if you want to talk about more about it, I'm I'm down."}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:43", "text": "I haven't looked into that cube, but I'm going to write that down because it just sounds cool. The apparition"}, {"start": "00:49:43", "end": "00:49:51", "text": "of Zune. Does that ring a bell, Gino?"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:58", "text": "If Gino never heard of it, it may not be real. Weasel still using AOL. Love me, don't"}, {"start": "00:49:58", "end": "00:50:03", "text": "judge judge me. You still use it, huh? Amazing."}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "Uh, Nuke says, \"Hey mate, we have a spiritual thing in Australia called the Minman Lights.\" Yeah, I talked about those in the Ghost Light episode. They're lights that appear in the middle"}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:17", "text": "of nowhere where the where there's no electricity. I have a video of one where we go opal mining. You could send that"}, {"start": "00:50:17", "end": "00:50:24", "text": "over. I covered that a little bit in the Ghost Lights episode. Not a lot. Now, we got into the Marvel lights,"}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "the brown mountain lights, and I debunked a few of them, but not all of them. Some of them I just can't"}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:36", "text": "explain. Ninja sending five memberships to the"}, {"start": "00:50:36", "end": "00:50:43", "text": "chat. Indie, please explain when you say we're"}, {"start": "00:50:43", "end": "00:50:49", "text": "not alone anymore. I just mean the aliens. And I don't necessarily know or"}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:55", "text": "think may that they're here. I think what we're seeing is something else, something from here, maybe something"}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:51:01", "text": "very old, but I don't know as far as alone in the universe. That just wouldn't make sense"}, {"start": "00:51:01", "end": "00:51:07", "text": "to me. There's just too much space. Justin loves the content. Hellish said,"}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:14", "text": "\"Hi, what's your opinion on three atlas?\" My opinion is that it's just a a comet,"}, {"start": "00:51:14", "end": "00:51:21", "text": "but there's some weird things about it which we'll get into in a little bit. Andy, thank you for the buck."}, {"start": "00:51:21", "end": "00:51:27", "text": "Keep right. Is any significance to the Busakola comic at the bottom of your book stack? Um, Jeff Catz is a movie"}, {"start": "00:51:27", "end": "00:51:33", "text": "producer. He became a friend of mine a few years ago. He's a fan of the channel and uh he was one of the authors of the"}, {"start": "00:51:33", "end": "00:51:39", "text": "book. So, he he sent me one and I I threw it under the bowl. So when when"}, {"start": "00:51:39", "end": "00:51:45", "text": "people send me stuff, if it's cool and fun, it usually goes on the set somewhere. So you might see you might"}, {"start": "00:51:45", "end": "00:51:52", "text": "see uh ninjas or butterflies on the board. You'll see nerdic on the set. See a few things from Shawn Ryan, Critical"}, {"start": "00:51:52", "end": "00:51:59", "text": "Drinkers up there. You know, people who send me stuff, it usually goes up there."}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "Zotone. Zitune appeared for three years. Millions saw it in 1968. All right, that helps. 1968. I got a list going."}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:16", "text": "Robert, you've seen Jenkins. Is this live? No. No, this is not live."}, {"start": "00:52:19", "end": "00:52:26", "text": "Gina, when you see the word Jenkins down there, what do you think of first? Leroy"}, {"start": "00:52:26", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "Jenkins. I know it's kind of, you know, that"}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "production five Australian. Hey, crew. Will you do a video on Jonathan Reed? Very interesting stuff there."}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "I'll take a look. Jonathan Reed, Australia. Is that where we're looking?"}, {"start": "00:52:48", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "Dr. Dr. Flay, you just logged into AOL."}, {"start": "00:52:57", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "Mischief, you remember that Leroy Jenkins, right? Hannah Marie does."}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:10", "text": "DMT gods are real, huh? I think we're going to cover DMT or the"}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:16", "text": "specifically about the entities and some of that. I have to kind of steer it away from"}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "drug use, which is annoying, but I still want to talk about uh DMT"}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:27", "text": "and the pineal gland. We're working on it now."}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:34", "text": "Sandy sent you a link to the GC story. Skim through it and you were talked about in it."}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:41", "text": "Which GC story? Did I miss something? I don't like when I show up in the news"}, {"start": "00:53:41", "end": "00:53:48", "text": "at all. Oh, Barry lives in Queensland and Paul lives in Wisconsin. All right, that's a healthy marriage. I think he's"}, {"start": "00:53:48", "end": "00:53:54", "text": "5,000 miles apart more. God bless. JT, I"}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:53:59", "text": "haven't looked into Myron Fagan, but I will. Myin"}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:09", "text": "Keith is a fellow New Yorker upstate. Upstate New York is kind of more Canada than New York, but you know, still nice"}, {"start": "00:54:09", "end": "00:54:15", "text": "to talk to a New Yorker. I just joined now. Come back and get me out of here."}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:23", "text": "I'm just teasing. I love upstate New York. I have a lot of family there now. And this is a nice time of year."}, {"start": "00:54:23", "end": "00:54:30", "text": "Uh we're going to get into Three Atlas a little bit. 08. I think it's just the comment, but we'll look at some of the arguments for and against. Just want to"}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "get through a couple of super chats here. There's Emma. Thank you for the $20. Tum says, \"Mushrooms can do the same.\""}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:44", "text": "It's a little different in my experience. I think it's a little bit different."}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "Morgath, um, I used to I played World of Warcraft when it was somewhat new a long time ago, but I didn't really stick with"}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "it. It's just I prefer shooters and"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:55:04", "text": "fastm moving game like The Witcher 3 is a legendary game, right? It's it's a was a like changed the industry. It's too"}, {"start": "00:55:04", "end": "00:55:10", "text": "slow for me. I still acknowledge it's genius, but you know, I want to jump in and just start"}, {"start": "00:55:10", "end": "00:55:15", "text": "shooting stuff. I'm Carmine Regusa on uh Xbox, by the"}, {"start": "00:55:15", "end": "00:55:21", "text": "way, if you want to team up. Right now, we're playing Borderlands 4 pharmacist. Thank you for the two and an episode"}, {"start": "00:55:21", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "about psychedelics, too. We're working on it. Cody, thank you for that."}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:34", "text": "Jack, thanks for the five. Fear the crabcat."}, {"start": "00:55:34", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "Stingray. I played Fallout when it was new. Also a little bit slow"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "by Auya. Witcher 3 is amazing. It is, but I just maybe my attention span is too short."}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:52", "text": "Uh AC's in the chat somewhat talked me into"}, {"start": "00:55:52", "end": "00:56:00", "text": "getting the new Battlefield game. I haven't installed it yet, but but just bought it if you guys are playing that."}, {"start": "00:56:01", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "Anastasia, he's right about upstate being a whole different world, though. It It is. Once you get out of Westchester, it's it's different. It's"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "nicer. It's nicer, especially now. You know, when I lived in New York City,"}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:22", "text": "the last time I lived in the city was 2005 before I moved to LA. New York was great. New York City was amazing. Not so"}, {"start": "00:56:22", "end": "00:56:28", "text": "much anymore. And uh it's going to get worse. There's Tay Pointer for 10. How is the episode"}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:35", "text": "on the Dallas brothers coming along? Uh it stalled a little bit, but let me leave me a note to get back into it. I"}, {"start": "00:56:35", "end": "00:56:42", "text": "stopped working on it because I was hitting the government really hard for a little while there."}, {"start": "00:56:43", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "So, I thought I would take a step back. I'm also writing down Rocco's basilisk, which has been on my list forever. But"}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:57", "text": "now that we've mentioned it, everyone is doomed to die. That's what that means. That's what Rocco means. Or Roos. So,"}, {"start": "00:56:57", "end": "00:57:06", "text": "Toy Panner, that's not going away. It just it just stalled a little bit while I get a couple of lighter episodes out."}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:17", "text": "Uh, Mark, you got a gig on the history show. Awesome. At least you will tell the truth about whatever they want you to do. It was when I first started doing"}, {"start": "00:57:17", "end": "00:57:23", "text": "that show, it was a point of contention because here's the inside scoop. And they hate that I talk about this, but"}, {"start": "00:57:23", "end": "00:57:29", "text": "you know, it's just us. You get all the topics and questions in advance so you could prepare."}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:35", "text": "And I think I I don't know how many times I've I've aired, but I think I've done"}, {"start": "00:57:35", "end": "00:57:41", "text": "five and going to do two more in a in a couple months."}, {"start": "00:57:41", "end": "00:57:48", "text": "So, a few of those times I was contributing were it was content that I'd already done, so I knew the content"}, {"start": "00:57:48", "end": "00:57:54", "text": "pretty well and they used my videos as research. So, the Corona visor, for example, so it was kind of easy to get"}, {"start": "00:57:54", "end": "00:58:01", "text": "into it. But then there were other episodes I had no idea what they were like the uh the haunted buildings"}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:06", "text": "episode, the one that was just off Naples. I didn't know any of that stuff, but they give you the the questions in"}, {"start": "00:58:06", "end": "00:58:12", "text": "advance, the topics, research, and then you just sit and they kind of say, \"All right, here's what we want you to talk"}, {"start": "00:58:12", "end": "00:58:18", "text": "about.\" So, initially they had me sort of talking about like"}, {"start": "00:58:18", "end": "00:58:24", "text": "the chronisor that it's real. And I told him, I said, \"I can't do that, guys, because I debunked this"}, {"start": "00:58:24", "end": "00:58:30", "text": "thing in the episode, and you guys don't debunk it at all.\" So, we got I I don't"}, {"start": "00:58:30", "end": "00:58:35", "text": "mind being a little bit, I don't know, intriguing, enticing, but I can't flat"}, {"start": "00:58:35", "end": "00:58:43", "text": "out say that it's real because it's definitely not. And so, let's rework it. And they were"}, {"start": "00:58:43", "end": "00:58:50", "text": "accommodating. And then I watched the edit to see if they were sneaky in the cut. But they were they were cool."}, {"start": "00:58:51", "end": "00:58:58", "text": "But but yeah, everybody gets all that stuff in advance. It's not like we're just riffing."}, {"start": "00:58:58", "end": "00:59:06", "text": "Zombie, are you from the future? And came back to educate us and drop hints to the truth. No, the truth is there."}, {"start": "00:59:06", "end": "00:59:13", "text": "You just got to dig. Focus. AJ's an honest man. I try to be."}, {"start": "00:59:13", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "I'm honest with you guys. I haven't Michael, I haven't got into Skinwalker Ranch because it's a TV show"}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:26", "text": "and how many people can talk about it and I can debunk so much of it. Not all of it, but so much of it"}, {"start": "00:59:26", "end": "00:59:32", "text": "and I don't feel like fighting with with the fans in the comments about it"}, {"start": "00:59:32", "end": "00:59:37", "text": "and and they're there. JJ, I'm glad you like the Rogan"}, {"start": "00:59:37", "end": "00:59:45", "text": "appearance. It was fun. So unlike the other shows, like Sean's"}, {"start": "00:59:45", "end": "00:59:51", "text": "Sean's show was uh I got a heads up on what we're going to talk about in advance and I read it and I was like,"}, {"start": "00:59:51", "end": "00:59:57", "text": "\"Oh no, there was a couple of spicy topics in there like uh Patriot Act"}, {"start": "00:59:57", "end": "01:00:02", "text": "you had me get into.\" Sean just kind of gives you bullet"}, {"start": "01:00:02", "end": "01:00:08", "text": "points like here are the things I'm interested in that may come up. The unexplained, they give you the outline of the show. Here's what we're going to"}, {"start": "01:00:08", "end": "01:00:16", "text": "talk about on Joe. Nothing. It's just sit. He's got no nothing in front of him. And I took out my notes and before"}, {"start": "01:00:16", "end": "01:00:23", "text": "we went on, I took out my notes and he's like, \"What's that?\" I said, \"Just some notes.\" So he's like, \"You need notes.\" And I was like, \"I guess not.\" And I put"}, {"start": "01:00:23", "end": "01:00:29", "text": "the book away. So I had no idea what was going to come up. But we did talked a lot about crop circles, which"}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:34", "text": "it was fine. That was that was one of our better episodes, but I just kind of followed where he was"}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:41", "text": "interested. If I saw his eyes light up, I just kept talking about that until we move on to something else. But there were a few times wish we gotten into,"}, {"start": "01:00:41", "end": "01:00:47", "text": "but we didn't. Maybe do it again at some point."}, {"start": "01:00:47", "end": "01:00:53", "text": "And when the basement launches, we'll reach out to Joe and see if they'll have me back."}, {"start": "01:00:53", "end": "01:00:58", "text": "There's Leon for five. Greetings from the Black Hills of South Dakota. South Dakota. All right. That's crazy. Horse"}, {"start": "01:00:58", "end": "01:01:06", "text": "country. Humble beginnings equate greatness. I'm so glad this channel is still awesome. Thank you. I think it stays consistent."}, {"start": "01:01:06", "end": "01:01:11", "text": "Not as consistent as I'd like it to be,"}, {"start": "01:01:11", "end": "01:01:17", "text": "but I try to keep it fun and interesting. Gary lives near right Patterson AFB."}, {"start": "01:01:17", "end": "01:01:23", "text": "Everything's been moved. Nothing there anymore. That's true. Nothing is there anymore. Uh I think it was on an Ancient"}, {"start": "01:01:23", "end": "01:01:28", "text": "Aliens episode a year or two ago where Giorgio went there. May may have been a different show. It would have been"}, {"start": "01:01:28", "end": "01:01:34", "text": "Prometheus where Giorgio went there and got a a tour around the hangers and"}, {"start": "01:01:34", "end": "01:01:39", "text": "stuff. So obviously there's nothing there but I think Wright Patterson"}, {"start": "01:01:39", "end": "01:01:46", "text": "Area 51 all the kind of the famous AFBs Kirtland for sure all that stuff has moved out of"}, {"start": "01:01:46", "end": "01:01:54", "text": "there. Fast Hemi for five."}, {"start": "01:01:54", "end": "01:02:00", "text": "Fast hemi machinist. Always always looking for a Hemi mechanic. There's Rob for two. We're"}, {"start": "01:02:00", "end": "01:02:07", "text": "promised aliens 3,000 years ago. We still may get him yet."}, {"start": "01:02:08", "end": "01:02:15", "text": "Oh, Margaret watched the Shawn Ryan episodes. Hope you liked it."}, {"start": "01:02:15", "end": "01:02:19", "text": "I like the Rogan appearance better,"}, {"start": "01:02:22", "end": "01:02:27", "text": "Frell. That's very nice of you to say. Mike, what's the place known or"}, {"start": "01:02:27", "end": "01:02:34", "text": "suspected of BT Tech? It's assuredly been moved. I totally agree. Oh no, I've got a I've got a sneeze on"}, {"start": "01:02:34", "end": "01:02:40", "text": "deck, but it's I don't think I can get it."}, {"start": "01:02:40", "end": "01:02:47", "text": "Tom says, \"Yeah, Rogan was better.\" Both good. All right, great. Appreciate that. I'm not going to in I should know by now"}, {"start": "01:02:47", "end": "01:02:54", "text": "to never insult myself in the live chat on a live stream because people will just agree with me like I looked fat in"}, {"start": "01:02:54", "end": "01:03:00", "text": "that episode and then 500 people like oh yeah you definitely look a little tubby so I better just keep that to myself."}, {"start": "01:03:00", "end": "01:03:08", "text": "Andrew's back. What does he got? XX. XXTX33 YouTube Spotify all three right invert"}, {"start": "01:03:08", "end": "01:03:13", "text": "forms Masonic space. He's definitely communicating with somebody."}, {"start": "01:03:13", "end": "01:03:19", "text": "But look, he's spending he's got like 30 or 40 bucks in there. We got to let him get the uh"}, {"start": "01:03:19", "end": "01:03:25", "text": "get the messages out. Mish, if we hide those comments. Appreciate that."}, {"start": "01:03:25", "end": "01:03:30", "text": "The fat alien camera puts on 50 pounds. So cheeseburgers during co we'll put on"}, {"start": "01:03:30", "end": "01:03:36", "text": "the pounds as well. Mity for two. Love the count your main episode. I'm glad you do. I'm going to"}, {"start": "01:03:36", "end": "01:03:41", "text": "redo that one with a little bit of new information. It's not going to be a two-parter because that was a terrible"}, {"start": "01:03:41", "end": "01:03:49", "text": "mistake. So, we're going to redo that one maybe before the end of the year because it's an easy lift."}, {"start": "01:03:49", "end": "01:03:57", "text": "Sorry, the orange glasses need to be cleaned. Like, trash panda cheeseburgers. I know. I eat"}, {"start": "01:03:57", "end": "01:04:03", "text": "cheeseburgers a lot. Is why I need to lose about 5 lbs."}, {"start": "01:04:03", "end": "01:04:11", "text": "I think we're looking all right, though. I We're up to 74 push-ups in 60 seconds. cuz I don't think I can beat it. Gino, can you do 74 push-ups and 60? No way."}, {"start": "01:04:11", "end": "01:04:17", "text": "Can you do 20? He can do two. He can do two push-ups."}, {"start": "01:04:18", "end": "01:04:23", "text": "Gino does bong hits in between his push-ups. That's why it takes him a while."}, {"start": "01:04:23", "end": "01:04:30", "text": "[Music] Lee, I need to lose zero pound. No, I I need to"}, {"start": "01:04:30", "end": "01:04:35", "text": "Let me Let me just show you. No, I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. It's just a little bit too much"}, {"start": "01:04:35", "end": "01:04:43", "text": "back there. spend a little bit too much time back there and not enough time with the with the tonal upstairs."}, {"start": "01:04:43", "end": "01:04:48", "text": "Brock, I can't be alive. Brock has to protect my location. Well, I'm honest that I say I'm in Vegas,"}, {"start": "01:04:48", "end": "01:04:56", "text": "but I don't go much more specific than that. I'm in I'm I'm the far west part of"}, {"start": "01:04:56", "end": "01:05:02", "text": "Vegas. If you guys are local, you know what that is. But like people ask me what car I drive. I'm not"}, {"start": "01:05:02", "end": "01:05:10", "text": "telling you that. Tell you what car I drive. I get hate mail for some for reasons."}, {"start": "01:05:16", "end": "01:05:23", "text": "Fast heavy. I don't I don't need the mechanic anymore, but with dad's uh 49 Ford, we had a Hemi in there. Could have"}, {"start": "01:05:23", "end": "01:05:29", "text": "used some help with it. Nathan, do you do Blaze? I don't know what you mean. Do you mean Glenn Beck's"}, {"start": "01:05:29", "end": "01:05:36", "text": "thing? If that's what you mean, then no. I wouldn't want to do anything that's specifically political. Um, I got an"}, {"start": "01:05:36", "end": "01:05:43", "text": "invite from Tucker, which I'll probably do at the beginning of the year, but uh,"}, {"start": "01:05:43", "end": "01:05:49", "text": "but I don't want to go political on there. I just want to talk about aliens and conspiracies."}, {"start": "01:05:51", "end": "01:05:58", "text": "Oh, uh, Grand Canyon, uh, interview, okay, is what we're talking about, GC."}, {"start": "01:05:58", "end": "01:06:04", "text": "Uh, I'm not I'm not near a pawn shop, but there's plenty of those here."}, {"start": "01:06:04", "end": "01:06:09", "text": "I'm in the BBS. I'm in the suburbs. Like, it's green and there's parks and kids playing. It's It's not like the"}, {"start": "01:06:09", "end": "01:06:15", "text": "studios down by the strip. So, like if I go in early, I I see all the hookers"}, {"start": "01:06:15", "end": "01:06:21", "text": "there, which I buy I buy them breakfast. I'm honest about it. They're usually in"}, {"start": "01:06:21", "end": "01:06:27", "text": "front of the liquor store and I'll go there and I'll buy him breakfast. It's a hard gig."}, {"start": "01:06:28", "end": "01:06:35", "text": "Remember, I used to work at a brothel. I understand. Uh, I haven't listened to"}, {"start": "01:06:35", "end": "01:06:42", "text": "Operation Mind Crime, but I'll check it out. Oh, the new house. The neighbors dogs"}, {"start": "01:06:42", "end": "01:06:50", "text": "are just howling. I need some advice on how to deal with that because they're not open to"}, {"start": "01:06:50", "end": "01:06:53", "text": "constructive criticism."}, {"start": "01:06:57", "end": "01:07:04", "text": "Marlene, thank you for that. Julian, do you believe in any conspiracy? if you do which and why. I"}, {"start": "01:07:04", "end": "01:07:09", "text": "believe in most of them. Most of them have come true certainly since I've been doing the show. Whether"}, {"start": "01:07:09", "end": "01:07:17", "text": "it's COVID or 9 911. It's all true."}, {"start": "01:07:18", "end": "01:07:29", "text": "Cindy, what was my my first car was a 1977 white Thunderbird with a red vinyl interior and a broken passenger seat."}, {"start": "01:07:30", "end": "01:07:37", "text": "I like that car. Diana, the Vegas comments are funny. I"}, {"start": "01:07:37", "end": "01:07:42", "text": "think I missed them. JDE, contact animal control."}, {"start": "01:07:42", "end": "01:07:48", "text": "Kon, call us on [ __ ] I hear he knows how to deal with dogs. Uh, we have the same manager, but I I won't bring that"}, {"start": "01:07:48", "end": "01:07:54", "text": "up. Corey, why block me, bro? Did someone block you? I didn't. I can still see"}, {"start": "01:07:54", "end": "01:08:00", "text": "your comments, but pe individuals can block you, and I can't do anything about it."}, {"start": "01:08:00", "end": "01:08:08", "text": "Uh, if someone gets blocked, they probably earned it. I'm not saying you did, but usually they do."}, {"start": "01:08:08", "end": "01:08:15", "text": "Here we go again. There he goes with the comments. But you notice the price is getting smaller."}, {"start": "01:08:15", "end": "01:08:21", "text": "We We were 10, now we're down to two. So, Andra, if you got to go five. You"}, {"start": "01:08:21", "end": "01:08:29", "text": "got to go five for me to show them. Uh, I wrote that one down. Cubes,"}, {"start": "01:08:29", "end": "01:08:35", "text": "Mr. Bob episode about Palanteer is a good idea. Palanteer and government data"}, {"start": "01:08:35", "end": "01:08:41", "text": "collection. If you haven't seen the episode that I did on Titan Point, you would probably like that one. That's 33 Thomas Street,"}, {"start": "01:08:41", "end": "01:08:48", "text": "the AT&T Long Lines building. We get into all that in the Snowden documents."}, {"start": "01:08:52", "end": "01:09:00", "text": "Palunteer. I don't know. That Palanteer is not a good idea. You're gonna get us all deleted."}, {"start": "01:09:01", "end": "01:09:06", "text": "You think we would get deleted? Yeah. I mean, uh, Palunteer is a is not like a"}, {"start": "01:09:06", "end": "01:09:15", "text": "a story that's over. It's a live thing going on that's affecting all Americans. Uh, it's, you know, I I don't I don't"}, {"start": "01:09:15", "end": "01:09:20", "text": "know what if we told the juicy salacious stuff about Palunteer,"}, {"start": "01:09:20", "end": "01:09:27", "text": "uh, it might not, you know, be great. But hey, you know, you're you like to"}, {"start": "01:09:27", "end": "01:09:33", "text": "push the envelope. I like to push it. Uh Luke just stumbled on the live stream just now. Oh, hell"}, {"start": "01:09:33", "end": "01:09:39", "text": "heck. Welcome aboard, Luke. Kathleen, are you in an apartment? No, I'm in a I'm in a house. I can use an air horn or"}, {"start": "01:09:39", "end": "01:09:45", "text": "a hose. I wouldn't want to use I would consider a hose maybe a salt. I don't want It's not the dog's fault. Dogs"}, {"start": "01:09:45", "end": "01:09:51", "text": "bark. It's owners that just will let them howl and howl."}, {"start": "01:09:51", "end": "01:09:56", "text": "Uh, so I have a couple of those ultrasonic dog trainers. I'm going to"}, {"start": "01:09:56", "end": "01:10:02", "text": "zap I'll zap the dogs with that, but I don't think those work that well. Kind of annoying. Gary, do you keep up with"}, {"start": "01:10:02", "end": "01:10:07", "text": "Portland protesting? I do. That's That's why I'm always taking shots of Portland."}, {"start": "01:10:07", "end": "01:10:12", "text": "I I guess they don't watch the stream because it just keeps getting worse over there. And I I love that city. I loved"}, {"start": "01:10:12", "end": "01:10:17", "text": "Portland. Loved. But uh but it's not the same city. Tyler, thoughts on meeting"}, {"start": "01:10:17", "end": "01:10:22", "text": "Joe Rogan? Well, he's been friends with Gino for like 15 years. So, I've met Joe plenty"}, {"start": "01:10:22", "end": "01:10:28", "text": "of times. He didn't remember when I walked in there. Here's here's the quick"}, {"start": "01:10:28", "end": "01:10:34", "text": "story. I walk in to Joe's studio. He's not there. He's just security there, which is not around. And I have a bag of"}, {"start": "01:10:34", "end": "01:10:40", "text": "stuff for him, a heckofish plushy and some other, you know, challenge coins and stuff. He finally comes out. It's"}, {"start": "01:10:40", "end": "01:10:45", "text": "like two minutes before we go on. I hand him the stuff and he goes, \"What is this?\" I said, \"It's a plushie and it's"}, {"start": "01:10:45", "end": "01:10:51", "text": "a, you know, just some swag.\" And he's like, I said, 'Well, if you don't like it, you know, you give it to one of your"}, {"start": "01:10:51", "end": "01:10:57", "text": "daughters. And he goes, \"My daughters are teenagers. They think this is stupid. I'll give it to the dog.\" I was like, \"Oh, okay.\" And then he didn't"}, {"start": "01:10:57", "end": "01:11:04", "text": "even look at the other stuff. He just left it. He's like, \"All right, let's go.\" And I walked in there kind of like already def kind of deflated,"}, {"start": "01:11:04", "end": "01:11:11", "text": "but he brought hecklefish in at least. And I think he's still on the table last I checked. Mhm."}, {"start": "01:11:11", "end": "01:11:16", "text": "So, I don't know if that was a move, a power move, because if it was, it"}, {"start": "01:11:16", "end": "01:11:23", "text": "worked. No, it wasn't. Joe's not like that. He doesn't care enough."}, {"start": "01:11:26", "end": "01:11:31", "text": "Uh, by the way, on the Ztown apparition, a few people me mentioned, uh, I have"}, {"start": "01:11:31", "end": "01:11:36", "text": "that in in research as part of um, uh,"}, {"start": "01:11:36", "end": "01:11:43", "text": "the, um, the other apparition that happened, uh, in, uh, with, uh, the"}, {"start": "01:11:43", "end": "01:11:50", "text": "Fatima experience. So, I thought they would be a good one together. That could be a good idea."}, {"start": "01:11:50", "end": "01:11:56", "text": "Santa's saying, \"You thought doing a full episode on Richard Dodie?\" I haven't cuz I cover him so much and he"}, {"start": "01:11:56", "end": "01:12:01", "text": "Dod's still around. You know, he's in his 80s. He's an old guy. I don't want to just keep hammering him to make a"}, {"start": "01:12:01", "end": "01:12:06", "text": "specific episode on him. Besides, I'd like to have him in the basement to talk,"}, {"start": "01:12:06", "end": "01:12:13", "text": "right, Gino? You think he'd be a good good guy to talk to? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I think so. I I I"}, {"start": "01:12:13", "end": "01:12:20", "text": "mean, he he's got to be aware of us talking about him, so why wouldn't he want to refute some of it?"}, {"start": "01:12:20", "end": "01:12:25", "text": "I mean, he he refutes it not directly to us, but when he's talking to other"}, {"start": "01:12:25", "end": "01:12:30", "text": "people, I mean, he's basically said, you know, even though uh a lot of this stuff"}, {"start": "01:12:30", "end": "01:12:36", "text": "uh isn't uh you know, uh I was doing disinformation, a lot of it is true. So,"}, {"start": "01:12:36", "end": "01:12:42", "text": "it's hard to tell what's what. Bishop, I really wish you'd see this. I"}, {"start": "01:12:42", "end": "01:12:50", "text": "see it. I belong to an organization that if I showed you a symbol, you'd know what it is. I can send proof of what I am. I get those comments a lot."}, {"start": "01:12:50", "end": "01:12:55", "text": "um just send it and we'll take a look. But I get"}, {"start": "01:12:55", "end": "01:13:00", "text": "comments like that a lot. I have information that would blow your mind if you only knew what it was. And then"}, {"start": "01:13:00", "end": "01:13:06", "text": "that's the whole message. That's like the whole email. Just send it. You don't"}, {"start": "01:13:06", "end": "01:13:12", "text": "need to to do cliffhers. I'm interested. I look at all the UFO videos people send"}, {"start": "01:13:12", "end": "01:13:19", "text": "me. I even used a couple of them in episodes. Tino, thank you for coming by. Amaranth"}, {"start": "01:13:19", "end": "01:13:25", "text": "stream doing a lot of conspiracy segment and we've been watching a lot of W files. Uh Tino, I didn't go on there."}, {"start": "01:13:25", "end": "01:13:31", "text": "She just she just ran a couple of episodes. I don't know her. You don't know her, do you, Gina?"}, {"start": "01:13:31", "end": "01:13:38", "text": "No, I don't. We just showed up on there. At least she was cool. She was cool about it."}, {"start": "01:13:38", "end": "01:13:44", "text": "Justina, you opened my eyes to a lot of things. I'm glad. Darren, what are your thoughts on 911?"}, {"start": "01:13:44", "end": "01:13:50", "text": "All the facts on demolition, not terrorist. Um uh it's demolition, not terrorists. Terrorists were part of it"}, {"start": "01:13:50", "end": "01:13:57", "text": "for sure. But I got demolition. You Gino, you want to say? Well, I I I haven't shared it with you"}, {"start": "01:13:57", "end": "01:14:04", "text": "yet, but I have a rabbit hole document on 911 that I've just been holding on to for when we ever decide to do it. I"}, {"start": "01:14:04", "end": "01:14:10", "text": "think we should talk about it at next production meeting because I I think what we should do is like a its own"}, {"start": "01:14:10", "end": "01:14:16", "text": "thing. Maybe it's not a Y files, but may because we're not going to get to the bottom and and figure it out and debunk"}, {"start": "01:14:16", "end": "01:14:24", "text": "anything. We could only talk about all of the different theories that are that are there. So, uh I I think it's worth"}, {"start": "01:14:24", "end": "01:14:32", "text": "it. I mean, there's just obviously so much info and the document I have will have you stunned on all the things. I"}, {"start": "01:14:32", "end": "01:14:38", "text": "mean, it's not even just the the normal stuff like the implosion and things like that,"}, {"start": "01:14:38", "end": "01:14:46", "text": "you know. It goes all the way to hologram. Yeah, I think I think Tucker kicked the door open with that episode. Uh,"}, {"start": "01:14:46", "end": "01:14:52", "text": "so once TMZ also TMZ also did did one recently"}, {"start": "01:14:52", "end": "01:15:00", "text": "that I think is a good companion to Tuckers that talks about the other plane that almost got hijacked um that they're"}, {"start": "01:15:00", "end": "01:15:05", "text": "sure would have been another hijacked plane. That's worth watching too."}, {"start": "01:15:05", "end": "01:15:12", "text": "Gus, any plans to do a deep dive on JFK RFK? I just did a JFK episode. Lee Harvey Oswald, all that. I just covered"}, {"start": "01:15:12", "end": "01:15:18", "text": "that. Mike Peters, if it's aliens, we'll make great pets. And now that song is in my"}, {"start": "01:15:18", "end": "01:15:26", "text": "head. Is that James or is that porno? Uh, porno. Yeah, porno. Papyrus."}, {"start": "01:15:26", "end": "01:15:32", "text": "Okay. Thria Atlas. Uh July 1st, 2025, NASA's Atlas"}, {"start": "01:15:32", "end": "01:15:38", "text": "telescope detected three atlas, the third known interstellar object of the solar system. It reaches it reached its"}, {"start": "01:15:38", "end": "01:15:45", "text": "closest approach to the sun on October 29th to 30th. Just a couple days ago, Harvard astronomer Avi Lo proposed it"}, {"start": "01:15:45", "end": "01:15:51", "text": "might be alien technology, assigning a 30 to 40% probab probability it's not fully natural. The object exhibits eight"}, {"start": "01:15:51", "end": "01:15:59", "text": "unusual characteristics and made its perihelium while hidden behind the sun. The perfect time for an oirth maneuver."}, {"start": "01:15:59", "end": "01:16:05", "text": "So, gravity assist if uh if it wanted to change course undetected."}, {"start": "01:16:06", "end": "01:16:12", "text": "Now, I'm up to 15 anomalies. I got a list that I've been keeping as it goes on"}, {"start": "01:16:12", "end": "01:16:19", "text": "for interstellar or anomalies of the for threei Atlas."}, {"start": "01:16:19", "end": "01:16:24", "text": "Okay. So, we've got the trajectories aligned with within 5% of the ecliptic."}, {"start": "01:16:24", "end": "01:16:29", "text": "So, the the chances of that are 0.2%. Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:16:29", "end": "01:16:35", "text": "the uh the perihelion the perihelion occurred uh while the sun while it was behind the sun. So if it wasn't wanted"}, {"start": "01:16:35", "end": "01:16:42", "text": "to change course that would be the way to do it because we can't see anything in that direction. No, nobody can."}, {"start": "01:16:42", "end": "01:16:49", "text": "Um sun jet behavior was anomalous. That was strange."}, {"start": "01:16:49", "end": "01:16:58", "text": "And the nickel detection has we've never seen that before. Without iron. Nickel without iron. Uh"}, {"start": "01:16:58", "end": "01:17:05", "text": "and uh so there are a few other things. Number one, it's the uh most massive thing that we've ever seen. Uh it's a"}, {"start": "01:17:05", "end": "01:17:12", "text": "thousand times bigger than a mua mua. Um you know, uh it's comparable in volume"}, {"start": "01:17:12", "end": "01:17:19", "text": "to uh the entire Manhattan Island. Um and it doesn't show non-gravitational"}, {"start": "01:17:19", "end": "01:17:24", "text": "acceleration despite visible evaporation going on. So it"}, {"start": "01:17:24", "end": "01:17:31", "text": "should since visible evaporation is going on it should have acceleration and that's you know um"}, {"start": "01:17:31", "end": "01:17:36", "text": "and it's strange. Did you see that very quietly NASA spun up its impact impact"}, {"start": "01:17:36", "end": "01:17:43", "text": "watch? I did not see see that about three weeks it was pretty scary because you know three outlets not going"}, {"start": "01:17:43", "end": "01:17:49", "text": "to touch us but if something like that did that's a that's a planet killer that's that's that's way bigger than"}, {"start": "01:17:49", "end": "01:17:54", "text": "chickaloop than the KT impact."}, {"start": "01:17:55", "end": "01:18:01", "text": "Now it uh what would happen if it hit Mars instead?"}, {"start": "01:18:01", "end": "01:18:06", "text": "Uh it would be it would be a big show,"}, {"start": "01:18:06", "end": "01:18:12", "text": "but no one nobody would be killed. I mean unless there's that civilization on Mars"}, {"start": "01:18:12", "end": "01:18:18", "text": "and they were in trouble. But assuming there's not, it would just be a big show."}, {"start": "01:18:18", "end": "01:18:24", "text": "It's kind of like when Shoe Shoemaker Levy went into the Jupiter. Yeah. That that would have that would have"}, {"start": "01:18:24", "end": "01:18:29", "text": "destroyed the Earth because I because that thing broke up into a bunch of impacts and it just But we were able to"}, {"start": "01:18:29", "end": "01:18:35", "text": "see that from here with with a telescope. Like you could see it in your front yard,"}, {"start": "01:18:35", "end": "01:18:41", "text": "you know, if you have a decent dark sky. So if that hit Mars, I I bet we would be"}, {"start": "01:18:41", "end": "01:18:47", "text": "able to see that. I mean, we have with orbiters at Mars"}, {"start": "01:18:47", "end": "01:18:54", "text": "anyway, so we would see it. No, I mean I mean from like my front yard with my telescope, I think we'd be"}, {"start": "01:18:54", "end": "01:19:00", "text": "able to see it. Uh, one of the most recent things about 3i Atlas that just came out I I think in"}, {"start": "01:19:00", "end": "01:19:07", "text": "the I only heard about it today was uh that uh near the parhelium it has now"}, {"start": "01:19:07", "end": "01:19:12", "text": "been detected that it has a bluer color and uh as it neared the sun uh it became"}, {"start": "01:19:12", "end": "01:19:20", "text": "bluer than the sun itself and blue light usually indicates like uh high temperature of emissions for or like uh"}, {"start": "01:19:20", "end": "01:19:25", "text": "ionized gases. So, a comet should be redder than the sun if it's just"}, {"start": "01:19:25", "end": "01:19:31", "text": "reflecting sunlight. So, um Alvi Lo like"}, {"start": "01:19:31", "end": "01:19:37", "text": "uh came out today and said this is just another anomaly. I I think he called it the"}, {"start": "01:19:37", "end": "01:19:45", "text": "ninth anomaly of it. Um uh and also it's super bright. It's brighter than we we"}, {"start": "01:19:45", "end": "01:19:50", "text": "predicted as it passed closest to the sun. Uh it brightened rapidly and"}, {"start": "01:19:50", "end": "01:19:58", "text": "reaching a a magnitude a n magnitude of nine. Um that suggests like uh there was"}, {"start": "01:19:58", "end": "01:20:05", "text": "a massive outburst of gas and dust beyond the you know standard"}, {"start": "01:20:05", "end": "01:20:11", "text": "thermal mod. I got um if you don't follow follow Avi Lo on medium you definitely should"}, {"start": "01:20:11", "end": "01:20:16", "text": "because uh he's really interesting. So, uh, there was a glow extending out"}, {"start": "01:20:16", "end": "01:20:21", "text": "to 300,000 kilometers around three atlas, comparable to the scale of a plume of carbon dioxide traced by the"}, {"start": "01:20:21", "end": "01:20:27", "text": "sphere space observatory in August. 300,000 km. What is that miles for for"}, {"start": "01:20:27", "end": "01:20:34", "text": "normal people? About 500,000 miles, something like that. No, no, fewer. 220,000 something like that. That's"}, {"start": "01:20:34", "end": "01:20:41", "text": "that's a lot. That's a lot. You know, also"}, {"start": "01:20:41", "end": "01:20:47", "text": "about that light. um the uh the the the instead of the tail pointing away from"}, {"start": "01:20:47", "end": "01:20:53", "text": "the sun uh it's it's the other way. Uh it showed like the plume"}, {"start": "01:20:53", "end": "01:20:58", "text": "directed towards the sun which you know it contradicts known"}, {"start": "01:20:58", "end": "01:21:05", "text": "there's like solar wind interaction models and that that it should have been the other way."}, {"start": "01:21:05", "end": "01:21:10", "text": "Not always. That that's that's not that unusual for the plume to face face the"}, {"start": "01:21:10", "end": "01:21:17", "text": "sun. But uh I wonder if its speed has something to do with that."}, {"start": "01:21:17", "end": "01:21:26", "text": "So it was it was earlier observations showed it to be red and now it's distinctly bluer than the sun."}, {"start": "01:21:26", "end": "01:21:33", "text": "And why that also matters is it shouldn't be able to heat up that much. It it should not be able to get so hot"}, {"start": "01:21:33", "end": "01:21:38", "text": "to be bluer than the sun. Yeah. And not if it was not if there's a"}, {"start": "01:21:38", "end": "01:21:43", "text": "lot of nickel in that. So it makes its closest approach to"}, {"start": "01:21:43", "end": "01:21:51", "text": "Earth on December 19th and will uh be observable at twilight."}, {"start": "01:21:52", "end": "01:21:58", "text": "So during the month of December, telescopes will be able to characterize three atlas in great detail. Uh, new"}, {"start": "01:21:58", "end": "01:22:04", "text": "data suggests that it will likely emerge from perihelium brighter than before."}, {"start": "01:22:06", "end": "01:22:11", "text": "So, the authors of the new paper say the reason for its rapid brightening far exceeds the brightening rate of most"}, {"start": "01:22:11", "end": "01:22:17", "text": "orort cloud comets at similar distances from the sun. Why this happens remains unclear."}, {"start": "01:22:17", "end": "01:22:23", "text": "So, so if this is extra solar, then it's not from the or cloud, it's from outside"}, {"start": "01:22:23", "end": "01:22:28", "text": "of that, which I'm pretty sure it is."}, {"start": "01:22:28", "end": "01:22:33", "text": "So scientists think, you know, we've had three extra solar objects that we've observed and documented, but scientists"}, {"start": "01:22:33", "end": "01:22:40", "text": "think there's probably 10,000, you know, now that we know what we're looking for."}, {"start": "01:22:41", "end": "01:22:46", "text": "People ask me about the conspiracies scare me and breakdown of society. They"}, {"start": "01:22:46", "end": "01:22:52", "text": "don't. I'm not worried about any of that stuff. I'm not worried about the CIA. I'm worried about impacts and solar"}, {"start": "01:22:52", "end": "01:22:59", "text": "storms. That's what scares me. Here's here's another one I wrote down. The the"}, {"start": "01:22:59", "end": "01:23:06", "text": "ALMA detected trajectory shift suggests that mass loss or another force, but the"}, {"start": "01:23:06", "end": "01:23:14", "text": "magnitude and timing don't match typical comet behavior. It indicates pop possible episodic or non-standard gas"}, {"start": "01:23:14", "end": "01:23:21", "text": "release or still or a still unknown driving mechanism. You know, talking about if it could have, you know,"}, {"start": "01:23:21", "end": "01:23:28", "text": "some kind of engine to it, right? So uh Dr. Lo was talking about"}, {"start": "01:23:28", "end": "01:23:34", "text": "non-gravitational acceleration at the perihelion"}, {"start": "01:23:35", "end": "01:23:43", "text": "from data uh obtained by the uh adakama large millimeter array."}, {"start": "01:23:48", "end": "01:23:54", "text": "There's a lot of formulas in here. If you're just listening, I apologize for"}, {"start": "01:23:54", "end": "01:24:00", "text": "about the non-gravitational acceleration. Um, it had like a sudden shift. So, for months, the object showed"}, {"start": "01:24:00", "end": "01:24:07", "text": "no push away from the sun despite the evidence of the mass loss. Uh, you know,"}, {"start": "01:24:07", "end": "01:24:14", "text": "of it losing, you know, water vapor and everything like that. Uh, and that behavior is unlike typical comments"}, {"start": "01:24:14", "end": "01:24:21", "text": "which always show acceleration due to solar outging. As of late October 2025,"}, {"start": "01:24:21", "end": "01:24:26", "text": "however, the measurable deviation for arcseconds was detected. It's the first"}, {"start": "01:24:26", "end": "01:24:34", "text": "sign of a non-gravitational force at work. It's hard for me to even understand that"}, {"start": "01:24:34", "end": "01:24:40", "text": "uh non-gravitational acceleration would indicate something artificial"}, {"start": "01:24:40", "end": "01:24:46", "text": "kind of like uh I don't think they've explained Mua's acceleration as it left the solar system. you maybe it was a"}, {"start": "01:24:46", "end": "01:24:53", "text": "gravity assist but I don't I don't I think I think there's con there's debate on that. Uh Dr. Lo says we should detect"}, {"start": "01:24:53", "end": "01:24:58", "text": "because of the speed we should detect a massive cloud of gas around 3 atlas in November and December if the"}, {"start": "01:24:58", "end": "01:25:04", "text": "non-gravitational acceleration resulted from cometary evaporation."}, {"start": "01:25:04", "end": "01:25:11", "text": "So we'll find out if uh if there's a lot of gas then it's just outgassing."}, {"start": "01:25:11", "end": "01:25:17", "text": "If there's not then it's an engine but it's not an engine."}, {"start": "01:25:17", "end": "01:25:23", "text": "And this one last the last thing is if we do not observe a massive cloud of gas"}, {"start": "01:25:23", "end": "01:25:29", "text": "this is what I was just mentioning in December then the reported nine gravitational acceleration near peron might be regarded as a technological"}, {"start": "01:25:29", "end": "01:25:34", "text": "signature of a propulsion system. Go ahead."}, {"start": "01:25:34", "end": "01:25:41", "text": "So another one I wrote down was the polarization of light is anomalous. It exhibited it exhibited a very negative"}, {"start": "01:25:41", "end": "01:25:49", "text": "polarization signature. This form of light scattering has never been seen in any other comet. Now again, I that's"}, {"start": "01:25:49", "end": "01:25:54", "text": "that's pulled out of one of Avi Loe's from one of his his talks. I don't"}, {"start": "01:25:54", "end": "01:26:02", "text": "exactly understand what that is. Uh"}, {"start": "01:26:02", "end": "01:26:10", "text": "negative it says exhibited a very negative polarization signature."}, {"start": "01:26:13", "end": "01:26:21", "text": "uniquely distinct polarization properties from solar uh so distinct from the other"}, {"start": "01:26:21", "end": "01:26:26", "text": "interstellar objects like um Tibor Borosoft."}, {"start": "01:26:26", "end": "01:26:31", "text": "So he's just explaining how polarization works. So light lights photons move in a"}, {"start": "01:26:31", "end": "01:26:37", "text": "wave, right? So you can cancel the wave out. It's like when you have polarized"}, {"start": "01:26:37", "end": "01:26:45", "text": "lenses, that's what that means. There it's And so why is that anomalous?"}, {"start": "01:26:45", "end": "01:26:50", "text": "I'm I'm not I'm not sure why that's strange."}, {"start": "01:26:50", "end": "01:26:55", "text": "He's not really explaining it yet. He's saying the combination of low"}, {"start": "01:26:55", "end": "01:27:02", "text": "inversion angle and extreme negative polarization is unprecedented among comets and asteroids."}, {"start": "01:27:03", "end": "01:27:09", "text": "Just an anomaly. I don't know why that would be strange. And I don't know why if it's technology why that would be"}, {"start": "01:27:09", "end": "01:27:16", "text": "necessary. You know he had an interesting commentary on the government shut down"}, {"start": "01:27:16", "end": "01:27:22", "text": "with it too. Not that you know it's conspiracy but he said look even if the government is shut down NASA is"}, {"start": "01:27:22", "end": "01:27:27", "text": "collecting the data. They don't have to share it with the public but they should share it with the science community. Let"}, {"start": "01:27:27", "end": "01:27:34", "text": "you know because this is happening in real time right now. And for the scientists not to get the data, it's"}, {"start": "01:27:34", "end": "01:27:41", "text": "you're you're missing out on on you know the the life of the story."}, {"start": "01:27:45", "end": "01:27:50", "text": "So uh Dr. Lo saying was bizarre cigar- shaped tumbling end over end showing no"}, {"start": "01:27:50", "end": "01:27:56", "text": "signs of a comet tail despite accelerating away from the sun. Yeah, that's that was strange. Uh Dr. Lo"}, {"start": "01:27:56", "end": "01:28:01", "text": "proposed it could be alien technology, specifically a light sail. Most scientists favor natural"}, {"start": "01:28:01", "end": "01:28:08", "text": "explanations, but its true nature remains debated. It it really I don't think it's been explained."}, {"start": "01:28:08", "end": "01:28:14", "text": "A light sail. Now, that was a small object compared to what this thing is, which I think speaks to it being"}, {"start": "01:28:14", "end": "01:28:20", "text": "natural. If any mua could, you know, if I had to, you know, with a gun to my"}, {"start": "01:28:20", "end": "01:28:25", "text": "head, I would say it's natural. But I'm I lean much more with that one being artificial because it's because it's"}, {"start": "01:28:25", "end": "01:28:32", "text": "small. You know, if you wanted to send a probe, like if we wanted to send a probe somewhere and we knew there was some"}, {"start": "01:28:32", "end": "01:28:37", "text": "type of civilization that was somewhat intelligent, if that's what we are, you'd want to to fly under the radar."}, {"start": "01:28:37", "end": "01:28:45", "text": "Literally, you'd want to send something small. You wouldn't want to send something the size of Manhattan. They're going to see it."}, {"start": "01:28:50", "end": "01:28:55", "text": "All right. It looks like they they said they solved the 70-year-old uh UFO mystery. This is where they were looking"}, {"start": "01:28:55", "end": "01:29:01", "text": "at old photographs and seeing weird lights in the sky. The research published in October 25"}, {"start": "01:29:01", "end": "01:29:08", "text": "finally explains some serious lights photographed in the sky between 1949 and57 by the Palmore Observatory California. The transient objects as"}, {"start": "01:29:08", "end": "01:29:14", "text": "they call them appearing on photographic plates correlated directly with nuclear weapons tests not alien craft. See I I"}, {"start": "01:29:14", "end": "01:29:20", "text": "have a bone to pick with that analysis. Is we didn't have any satellites then"}, {"start": "01:29:20", "end": "01:29:26", "text": "did we? No. first. So, so we're doing nuclear tests up there"}, {"start": "01:29:26", "end": "01:29:31", "text": "before we even have satellites. No, not nuclear tests in space, I don't"}, {"start": "01:29:31", "end": "01:29:38", "text": "think. So, so wait, what? So, what were on the the photographs? Cuz she's they was when"}, {"start": "01:29:38", "end": "01:29:43", "text": "the photographs came out, it was, \"Hey, there are UFOs in the sky before we ever"}, {"start": "01:29:43", "end": "01:29:49", "text": "had satellites.\" That was the recent"}, {"start": "01:29:49", "end": "01:29:55", "text": "that was the recent uh news that came out that she was analyzing all all of"}, {"start": "01:29:55", "end": "01:30:02", "text": "the data before satellites were there and UFOs are everywhere in in in these"}, {"start": "01:30:02", "end": "01:30:08", "text": "photographs, right? Uh yeah, the news we took the image"}, {"start": "01:30:08", "end": "01:30:13", "text": "down. Oh, here's one. Oh, it's fake."}, {"start": "01:30:15", "end": "01:30:22", "text": "Yeah, I don't I'm not sure. I think this analysis is maybe too dismissive on the debunking side because we can see UFOs"}, {"start": "01:30:22", "end": "01:30:28", "text": "at nuclear tests. We can see them. I think you can see them at Bikini Atole, you know, at the Castle Bravo test. I"}, {"start": "01:30:28", "end": "01:30:33", "text": "think you can see some you can see weird stuff in the sky."}, {"start": "01:30:35", "end": "01:30:41", "text": "Uh yeah, that actually came up in another uh one I'm doing research on"}, {"start": "01:30:41", "end": "01:30:48", "text": "that. Um they did uh it was a Bikini atole, but they had a weapon that they"}, {"start": "01:30:48", "end": "01:30:53", "text": "were shooting into the air to explode and what it was supposed to do is knock"}, {"start": "01:30:53", "end": "01:31:02", "text": "out any nuclear missiles. It should have been able to do that uh by shooting out X-rays and um and when they did it there"}, {"start": "01:31:02", "end": "01:31:09", "text": "there is on film a UFO uh during the the test of it"}, {"start": "01:31:09", "end": "01:31:15", "text": "and do you know which test that was? Uh I do. I got it in my notes. Um and uh"}, {"start": "01:31:15", "end": "01:31:20", "text": "it has to do with JFK actually as well. Uh that that could have been part of why"}, {"start": "01:31:20", "end": "01:31:27", "text": "he got assassinated. Uh but let me pull that. I'll see if I can pull that up quickly while we're talking here."}, {"start": "01:31:27", "end": "01:31:33", "text": "While you're looking for that, here's the image that they're talking about. If you see on the left side, objects are circled, but on the right side, they're"}, {"start": "01:31:33", "end": "01:31:38", "text": "gone. But, uh, but the sky remains static."}, {"start": "01:31:43", "end": "01:31:48", "text": "Well-known U well-known strand of UF UAP lore. We can just call them UFOs,"}, {"start": "01:31:48", "end": "01:31:54", "text": "suggesting that nuclear weapons may attract uh UFOs to observe the events."}, {"start": "01:31:54", "end": "01:31:58", "text": "I think that's true."}, {"start": "01:32:00", "end": "01:32:05", "text": "I'm not a debunker. I'm an open-minded skeptic. I think that's true."}, {"start": "01:32:05", "end": "01:32:11", "text": "Bluegill. Uh I think it was called Project Bluegill."}, {"start": "01:32:14", "end": "01:32:21", "text": "Let me see. Some live research here. Operation Fish Fishbowl, US nuclear"}, {"start": "01:32:21", "end": "01:32:27", "text": "tests. That's not No, it's not that. Give me a minute. I I got most of my"}, {"start": "01:32:27", "end": "01:32:32", "text": "info here. I just got to re roll through it. Um,"}, {"start": "01:32:32", "end": "01:32:42", "text": "all right. In the meanwhile, let's cue up the uh the Hellfire missile video. Hopefully, that's not taken down."}, {"start": "01:32:45", "end": "01:32:51", "text": "Now, that was brought to Congress by uh Representative Burchett and uh recently"}, {"start": "01:32:51", "end": "01:32:58", "text": "like he was interviewed as he's walking down the street about about that and different things and he's like uh there"}, {"start": "01:32:58", "end": "01:33:05", "text": "are multiple deep water uh places that we are aware of, six in particular, that"}, {"start": "01:33:05", "end": "01:33:12", "text": "are heavily UFO sightings uh that that we don't have much video of because"}, {"start": "01:33:12", "end": "01:33:19", "text": "there's no reason to be around these deep water places in the oceans, but they correlate with all these sightings."}, {"start": "01:33:19", "end": "01:33:28", "text": "So, you got this congressman who's talking about it, right? I think Bers had talked about this with with Tucker."}, {"start": "01:33:31", "end": "01:33:40", "text": "Uh here's the missile. Missile bounces off my mystery aircraft."}, {"start": "01:33:43", "end": "01:33:50", "text": "It's just It's just water. I don't like to be buzzed on the uh on the live stream."}, {"start": "01:33:51", "end": "01:33:55", "text": "Another shot of it."}, {"start": "01:33:56", "end": "01:34:02", "text": "There's George again. I'm assuming Jeremy's back there as"}, {"start": "01:34:02", "end": "01:34:11", "text": "well. Yes. Uh so, uh this was George was testifying at this this hearing. So uh"}, {"start": "01:34:11", "end": "01:34:17", "text": "so with that uh I was at a conference and uh Mike Barro was there and he is"}, {"start": "01:34:17", "end": "01:34:23", "text": "dismissing this video saying that is uh um"}, {"start": "01:34:23", "end": "01:34:29", "text": "I think that is a balloon is what he's saying it's hitting. And he's he also said it can't can't be a hellfire"}, {"start": "01:34:29", "end": "01:34:36", "text": "missile because they don't get shot from drones. It's a different type of hellfire missile than the one everyone"}, {"start": "01:34:36", "end": "01:34:42", "text": "thinks. Now to me I I don't know. It's a very amazing video. I I I it was I said"}, {"start": "01:34:42", "end": "01:34:47", "text": "I can't debate you, Mike, but this is a pretty compelling video."}, {"start": "01:34:47", "end": "01:34:54", "text": "Well, you can't de debate Barra on anything. If if you say the sky is blue and he disagrees, he'll he'll convince"}, {"start": "01:34:54", "end": "01:35:00", "text": "you it's not. So, it looks like the theories are foreign adversary technology,"}, {"start": "01:35:00", "end": "01:35:07", "text": "classified US technology, black project, or non-human origin."}, {"start": "01:35:07", "end": "01:35:14", "text": "So, the US has a history of testing classified tech that looks like UFOs, the SR71, the Blackbird, the F-17."}, {"start": "01:35:14", "end": "01:35:20", "text": "That would explain why the Pentagon doesn't want to talk about it. Uh, live fire testing"}, {"start": "01:35:20", "end": "01:35:27", "text": "against real weapons is how military validates the systems. And the Yemen Theater allows for testing"}, {"start": "01:35:27", "end": "01:35:34", "text": "away from public scrutiny. So, one of the theories is they're testing AI controlled defensive drones"}, {"start": "01:35:34", "end": "01:35:39", "text": "with advanced materials. And uh it could be and you know, Congress isn't read"}, {"start": "01:35:39", "end": "01:35:46", "text": "into SAPs to the special access programs. They're just they're not read into it and they're not going to be. They're"}, {"start": "01:35:46", "end": "01:35:49", "text": "temp employees."}, {"start": "01:35:51", "end": "01:35:59", "text": "Some arguments for for being alien are the flight characteristics hovering instant acceleration defying known physics. Uh the material science deflect"}, {"start": "01:35:59", "end": "01:36:05", "text": "a hellfire suggest technology behind beyond current capabilities. Uh historical pattern this is similar to"}, {"start": "01:36:05", "end": "01:36:10", "text": "reports for 80 years across all nations and this was corroborated by multiple"}, {"start": "01:36:10", "end": "01:36:16", "text": "credible witnesses, pilots, military scientists. Uh, DoD's inability to explain after"}, {"start": "01:36:16", "end": "01:36:22", "text": "decades of study suggests foreign origin beyond Earth and bouncing off the missile implies force field or exotic"}, {"start": "01:36:22", "end": "01:36:28", "text": "matter that we don't understand. Now, also interesting, when it hits it, you could see two things sort of break"}, {"start": "01:36:28", "end": "01:36:34", "text": "off. I don't know if that's part of the missile or if that's part of what it hit, but they continue along in the"}, {"start": "01:36:34", "end": "01:36:40", "text": "gravitational pull of it. You do. I mean, do you see you can see"}, {"start": "01:36:40", "end": "01:36:47", "text": "pieces falling off, but the hell the the missile just bounces off the thing?"}, {"start": "01:36:47", "end": "01:36:52", "text": "Uh, you could see it right. Where's the missile? It You could see it right here."}, {"start": "01:36:52", "end": "01:36:59", "text": "See the missile just bounces off of it. But a couple pieces off."}, {"start": "01:36:59", "end": "01:37:05", "text": "Yep. Right there. Like right under where your cursor is. You could see that there are pieces that just travel along with"}, {"start": "01:37:05", "end": "01:37:10", "text": "it. They travel along with it. So, I mean, gravity works one way, it"}, {"start": "01:37:10", "end": "01:37:18", "text": "goes down. There's no reason things should continue along unless it's a balloon."}, {"start": "01:37:19", "end": "01:37:24", "text": "What Mike said is when you when uh uh there's some there those things that"}, {"start": "01:37:24", "end": "01:37:31", "text": "that are outside of it uh are part it's just part of how the balloons work. Um"}, {"start": "01:37:31", "end": "01:37:38", "text": "that's and that's what we're seeing the debris of. But how could a hellfire missile not not blow up a balloon"}, {"start": "01:37:38", "end": "01:37:44", "text": "and it wouldn't it wouldn't bounce off like that? They have cropped out the trajectory"}, {"start": "01:37:44", "end": "01:37:51", "text": "information here which is annoying because you can get a good idea of how fast things are going just by doing some"}, {"start": "01:37:51", "end": "01:37:57", "text": "trigonometry. Like the go fast video, it could be debunked just by doing some trigonometry that it might have just"}, {"start": "01:37:57", "end": "01:38:03", "text": "been a balloon not going all that fast. I'm not saying that's what it is. I'm just saying when you have this"}, {"start": "01:38:03", "end": "01:38:11", "text": "additional data, you can you can draw some conclusions. That is not moving like a balloon though."}, {"start": "01:38:13", "end": "01:38:20", "text": "Uh so I did find the the the research uh that I was looking for when we're ready."}, {"start": "01:38:22", "end": "01:38:29", "text": "Uh well, what are people saying? What do you think this is? Do you think do you think it's a UFO with a force field?"}, {"start": "01:38:29", "end": "01:38:35", "text": "I mean, I I to me, you know, I know I'm I'm I borderline on the ridiculous, but"}, {"start": "01:38:35", "end": "01:38:41", "text": "that's what it seems like to me. Um, you know, especially uh the the biggest"}, {"start": "01:38:41", "end": "01:38:46", "text": "issue with this is um we don't know who where this came from. This didn't go"}, {"start": "01:38:46", "end": "01:38:53", "text": "through the normal ways. uh you know the Berles uh Representative Burles who got"}, {"start": "01:38:53", "end": "01:39:00", "text": "this video got it from an anonymous source uh not from like the military"}, {"start": "01:39:00", "end": "01:39:06", "text": "right uh thanks for the super chats guys hold off on those unless you just want to"}, {"start": "01:39:06", "end": "01:39:14", "text": "donate and support the channel that's great but I I try to read as many as I can only till 4:30 but be but while"}, {"start": "01:39:14", "end": "01:39:21", "text": "we're talking about the news let's let's do a quick giveaway. Let's give away uh I think"}, {"start": "01:39:21", "end": "01:39:28", "text": "it's $50 gift card to the Wi-Fi store and we'll send you a video custom video of Victoria's feet."}, {"start": "01:39:28", "end": "01:39:33", "text": "You just have to let us know if you want her in shoes or socks or just want your"}, {"start": "01:39:33", "end": "01:39:41", "text": "toes. So, what what are we doing for for the word here?"}, {"start": "01:39:51", "end": "01:39:54", "text": "cat"}, {"start": "01:40:02", "end": "01:40:09", "text": "that fix it. Okay. All right. Let me see in the chat if someone's got an idea for a word."}, {"start": "01:40:09", "end": "01:40:14", "text": "Alien Toes. All right. Alien Toes is your word. Here's how it works. Just"}, {"start": "01:40:14", "end": "01:40:20", "text": "type Alien Toes, one word in the chat, A L I E N T O E S, one word, and you'll be"}, {"start": "01:40:20", "end": "01:40:25", "text": "automatically entered to win a $50 gift card to the WAS store."}, {"start": "01:40:25", "end": "01:40:33", "text": "We'll let that roll for a little bit. Alien Toes is the word. Alien Ties will not work. MK, it's Alien Toes. Allen"}, {"start": "01:40:33", "end": "01:40:40", "text": "toes is not going to work. Lizard, it's a good word, but that that's not going to work either."}, {"start": "01:40:40", "end": "01:40:47", "text": "Icemakers like, can you hear the ice maker over my mic? No, it's louder than louder than the dogs."}, {"start": "01:40:47", "end": "01:40:53", "text": "All right. Alien Toes is the word. Do you want me to uh pull up a link"}, {"start": "01:40:53", "end": "01:41:01", "text": "or Well, uh let me Yeah, let me tell you. Maybe you can pull it up quick. So, so here's uh uh I met uh a few years back"}, {"start": "01:41:01", "end": "01:41:06", "text": "at contact in the desert a guy named Shiva who's a a physicist and I told you"}, {"start": "01:41:06", "end": "01:41:12", "text": "about him. He's like a rock and roll physicist. I really like the guy. So, he's the one who shot this uh to me um"}, {"start": "01:41:12", "end": "01:41:17", "text": "after watching some of our episodes. Uh and this is how how we he starts out."}, {"start": "01:41:17", "end": "01:41:23", "text": "Blue blueg guild triple prime the lynchpin event. Why October 26, 1962"}, {"start": "01:41:23", "end": "01:41:29", "text": "changes everything. Um because it could prove uh uh because we could prove that"}, {"start": "01:41:29", "end": "01:41:35", "text": "it happened. Uh it shows the the UFO in the video. Uh, and it breaks the Air"}, {"start": "01:41:35", "end": "01:41:43", "text": "Force's monopoly. Uh, because the Navy, this is Navy video, and the Air Force used to only be UFOs at that point, and"}, {"start": "01:41:43", "end": "01:41:49", "text": "it directly caused JFK's assassination 13."}, {"start": "01:41:50", "end": "01:41:56", "text": "I think this is the video. Uh, the Bluegill Prime nuclear disaster."}, {"start": "01:41:56", "end": "01:42:02", "text": "A Thor ICBM armed with a live nuclear warhead catches fire and explodes of a launchpad"}, {"start": "01:42:02", "end": "01:42:06", "text": "at Johnson at"}, {"start": "01:42:11", "end": "01:42:19", "text": "an 18minute video. I don't know. You You might want to put in Bluegill Prime UFO and see if you get something"}, {"start": "01:42:19", "end": "01:42:27", "text": "pulled from that. Check that. Bluegill Prime UFO."}, {"start": "01:42:37", "end": "01:42:43", "text": "I'm not seeing it. And I know I have it in my in the research somewhere, but we'll have to"}, {"start": "01:42:43", "end": "01:42:50", "text": "save that for if it becomes a story. We'll do it next time."}, {"start": "01:42:51", "end": "01:42:58", "text": "I think it I think it's an interesting topic and again with the JFK tie-in I I think it could become a full episode"}, {"start": "01:42:58", "end": "01:43:06", "text": "almost like a uh uh a second a companion to the one we just did on um Mory"}, {"start": "01:43:06", "end": "01:43:09", "text": "Island."}, {"start": "01:43:11", "end": "01:43:18", "text": "Say again. Same time frame as Mory Island and and Chrisman and and everything like that."}, {"start": "01:43:18", "end": "01:43:24", "text": "Oh, that's true. 62, right? That's right. Uh, Gertiey's toes will not win."}, {"start": "01:43:24", "end": "01:43:31", "text": "But that's that's very funny. Yeah, alien toes is the free goodies word"}, {"start": "01:43:31", "end": "01:43:40", "text": "northern tribe. Where's Andrew? I need him to type ligma eating toes will not work. Uh, Uncle Deuce, very funny."}, {"start": "01:43:40", "end": "01:43:47", "text": "Another weird tie into it is I think Jeff Bezos's grandfather had something to do with it with DARPA and and that's"}, {"start": "01:43:47", "end": "01:43:54", "text": "in the research. Well, that sounds like a good one."}, {"start": "01:43:54", "end": "01:44:00", "text": "Robin Keller, thank you for the 10. Been loving the videos for a long time. As a creator myself, I know what it takes to put content together and put it out."}, {"start": "01:44:00", "end": "01:44:05", "text": "It's not easy and it's timeconuming. Way to go and congrats on the success. Nice, Robert. It is not easy."}, {"start": "01:44:05", "end": "01:44:12", "text": "Um, you know, I I love doing the channel, but I do work about 100 hours a week"}, {"start": "01:44:12", "end": "01:44:18", "text": "on average. I need a vacation. It's been a while. There's Andrew still for $2. No, it's"}, {"start": "01:44:18", "end": "01:44:24", "text": "only $2. I'm got to get rid of it. Instead, we got KCV to please make"}, {"start": "01:44:24", "end": "01:44:30", "text": "Lizard people t-shirts. Use the mug graphic. I'll write that down. Merch ideas always welcome. And you could"}, {"start": "01:44:30", "end": "01:44:37", "text": "submit merch ideas on the website, I think. So, lizard people"}, {"start": "01:44:37", "end": "01:44:41", "text": "t-shirts with the mug graphic."}, {"start": "01:44:42", "end": "01:44:47", "text": "Alien hose is not going to work. Edward"}, {"start": "01:44:49", "end": "01:44:55", "text": "limitless. It was noticed. I'm dead. In in the chat, there's a a Basos lover."}, {"start": "01:44:55", "end": "01:45:00", "text": "He's mad that I'm bringing up his grandfather. Well, you didn't weren't insulting the"}, {"start": "01:45:00", "end": "01:45:06", "text": "guy, right? I mean, I just said he, you know, was part of the story and had something to"}, {"start": "01:45:06", "end": "01:45:11", "text": "do with DARPA. He's a uh I think he might have been a founding member is uh"}, {"start": "01:45:11", "end": "01:45:16", "text": "what I got uh here. Uh let's see. Uh Jeff Bezos's grandfather uh Lawrence"}, {"start": "01:45:16", "end": "01:45:24", "text": "Preston Gis. Oh, we'll have to look into that. That's a good nugget. There's Obi-Wan first"}, {"start": "01:45:24", "end": "01:45:31", "text": "time super chat been watching for nearly three years. Love the channel. It's the best thing on YouTube. I appreciate that. Whoa, this is one smart human. Are you"}, {"start": "01:45:31", "end": "01:45:37", "text": "sure you're not pot goldfish? Here is chappie for 50 bucks. You know"}, {"start": "01:45:37", "end": "01:45:50", "text": "what that means? [Music]"}, {"start": "01:45:51", "end": "01:45:58", "text": "I want you to know I said human. Thank you for all the dough tipping"}, {"start": "01:45:58", "end": "01:46:07", "text": "as I'm sure you will find. Always is a good time."}, {"start": "01:46:07", "end": "01:46:16", "text": "It's fun to tip the f. It's fun to tip the f i sh."}, {"start": "01:46:16", "end": "01:46:23", "text": "Chappie said, \"What if ghosts and other explainables are fourthdimensional? And do you know anything about DMT?\" Uh, I"}, {"start": "01:46:23", "end": "01:46:29", "text": "know a little bit about DMT. I' I've used it. It's not a It's not a recreational activity. It's, you know,"}, {"start": "01:46:29", "end": "01:46:34", "text": "it's for psychonauts and exploring. Um, I don't think I was able to break through."}, {"start": "01:46:34", "end": "01:46:40", "text": "Uh, but we'll do an episode on it. I'll explain how what's going on in the brain and why we've all maybe seen the same"}, {"start": "01:46:40", "end": "01:46:48", "text": "alien entities. Uh, ghost fourthdimensional. I guess they would be more unless you mean time, but you might"}, {"start": "01:46:48", "end": "01:46:53", "text": "be on to something that ghosts are extradimensional. I'd like to say two things about this"}, {"start": "01:46:53", "end": "01:47:00", "text": "one about the DMT. Uh a few things in the episode we talk about are the waiting room which is something that a"}, {"start": "01:47:00", "end": "01:47:05", "text": "lot of people have a shared experience of. Um also machine elves which is the"}, {"start": "01:47:05", "end": "01:47:10", "text": "type of entity a lot of people see. Um they do. And then"}, {"start": "01:47:10", "end": "01:47:16", "text": "uh and then the third thing which is recent is this laser experiment where people are having the shared experience"}, {"start": "01:47:16", "end": "01:47:22", "text": "of seeing stuff inside of a laser while on DMT that looks like hieroglyphics"}, {"start": "01:47:22", "end": "01:47:28", "text": "almost and it exists in like a plane of sight as you look up and down. It moves"}, {"start": "01:47:28", "end": "01:47:34", "text": "like you're looking through a slit in a window, you know. Um make sure that you we remember that"}, {"start": "01:47:34", "end": "01:47:40", "text": "for the episode. That's very interesting. someone name. Yeah, I got that in the research. And"}, {"start": "01:47:40", "end": "01:47:46", "text": "now about the ghosts, I feel the same way. Like I would throw spirits out of ghosts because most ghosts are"}, {"start": "01:47:46", "end": "01:47:51", "text": "poltergeist and nonseen entities. So if we're talking about unseen entities that"}, {"start": "01:47:51", "end": "01:47:57", "text": "have a way to interact with this dimension or where we are, I think it's"}, {"start": "01:47:57", "end": "01:48:03", "text": "very possible that most ghost activity is is some something other than humans"}, {"start": "01:48:03", "end": "01:48:09", "text": "that have died. I think maybe the spirits that people see that's could be a human that died because they're going,"}, {"start": "01:48:09", "end": "01:48:17", "text": "\"Oh, it looks like you know uh you know the the girl who killed herself or whatever.\" But um uh but most uh"}, {"start": "01:48:17", "end": "01:48:22", "text": "poltergeist and paranormal activity is not a seen spirit. So I think there's"}, {"start": "01:48:22", "end": "01:48:30", "text": "something to to what what we're saying there on extradimensional uh non-human intelligence."}, {"start": "01:48:30", "end": "01:48:36", "text": "Zedro actual toast is not going to win, but I appreciate that. Mentos the freshmaker will not win"}, {"start": "01:48:36", "end": "01:48:42", "text": "but that's very funny. Uh the waiting room is a thing says"}, {"start": "01:48:42", "end": "01:48:49", "text": "Brock. You can read about in a short book by Brian Weiss. Many live many masters. It's I highly recommend it's in"}, {"start": "01:48:49", "end": "01:48:54", "text": "my Kindle. World leads. I've seen the MH370 UFO"}, {"start": "01:48:54", "end": "01:49:00", "text": "video. I'm not convinced. It's that's debunked, isn't it, Cheetah? uh"}, {"start": "01:49:00", "end": "01:49:05", "text": "you know it it's it's it has been debunked for the most part. Um there's a"}, {"start": "01:49:05", "end": "01:49:11", "text": "guy Ashton Forbes who who is like the leader in this um and for forever uh he"}, {"start": "01:49:11", "end": "01:49:17", "text": "was um uh wasn't saying it's debunked but the person who created the video or"}, {"start": "01:49:17", "end": "01:49:23", "text": "says he created the video actually came out. However, I think it's been said now"}, {"start": "01:49:23", "end": "01:49:28", "text": "that what that video shows is how it would work and it and it did work the"}, {"start": "01:49:28", "end": "01:49:35", "text": "same way. It's hard to exactly figure out. Um, but uh, but you know, it's hard"}, {"start": "01:49:35", "end": "01:49:41", "text": "for me. The guy Ashton, I I I I met him. I talked to him. It's hard for me, you"}, {"start": "01:49:41", "end": "01:49:46", "text": "know, to I take everything he says with a grain of salt."}, {"start": "01:49:46", "end": "01:49:53", "text": "People ask how Bubba's doing."}, {"start": "01:49:53", "end": "01:50:00", "text": "There's Bubba in the corner. He's but he's he's the biggest cat by far at uh at 11 months."}, {"start": "01:50:00", "end": "01:50:05", "text": "Almost looks like a like an alien. Lizard toes will not win when Atlantis."}, {"start": "01:50:05", "end": "01:50:12", "text": "Alex says I'm not debunked. We'll look at it. It's been covered so much that I don't"}, {"start": "01:50:12", "end": "01:50:17", "text": "think I can bring anything new. That's kind of what we do here is talk"}, {"start": "01:50:17", "end": "01:50:25", "text": "about some of that stuff that's not really an episode. It comes up in production meetings often. We just can't really figure out a"}, {"start": "01:50:25", "end": "01:50:30", "text": "way to do it where we'll we'll give it do it justice to make it a interesting"}, {"start": "01:50:30", "end": "01:50:36", "text": "enough episode for you guys for the audience. Right. All right. Last call for Alien"}, {"start": "01:50:36", "end": "01:50:42", "text": "Toes. Last call. Alien Toes. All right. Here we go."}, {"start": "01:50:42", "end": "01:50:49", "text": "Let's draw. There's Justin, Nurse, Thomas, Chad, Ricky, Jerry Mour, Anna, Mr. Cliff, Lucky, Steven, Brendan,"}, {"start": "01:50:49", "end": "01:50:56", "text": "Chainsaw, Justin, Jim. It's actually Penguin. Margaret Slizzac is the winner. Congratulations, Margaret."}, {"start": "01:50:56", "end": "01:51:04", "text": "Congratulations. You just won a gift card for the W House store. Just hop on to Discord and open a"}, {"start": "01:51:04", "end": "01:51:12", "text": "ticket and we will take care of you. Isn't that the bad guys in Land of the Lost? I thought so, too. Is Aren't those"}, {"start": "01:51:12", "end": "01:51:18", "text": "This is Lisa. Uh, we got 14 minutes left. Gino, thank you for your help today. I appreciate it."}, {"start": "01:51:18", "end": "01:51:25", "text": "See you guys soon. There we go. signing off. Salute. Uh, John Rock, uh, Rocco, we're going to"}, {"start": "01:51:25", "end": "01:51:32", "text": "do it because it's such a weird story. It's one of those things like once you read and learn about it, you're doomed"}, {"start": "01:51:32", "end": "01:51:38", "text": "to death. So, I have to find the right approach to make it familyfriendly. There's adventures with the Ivaries for"}, {"start": "01:51:38", "end": "01:51:44", "text": "49. Wife and I enjoy your episodes while out on the road. All right. Respect for you and your team. Have you done an episode on Bill Cooper or still plan to?"}, {"start": "01:51:44", "end": "01:51:51", "text": "Still plan to definitely doing it because I because I love the subject."}, {"start": "01:51:52", "end": "01:51:59", "text": "uh crossover with Ninjas are butterflies. Uh I have their I have their merch on the wall."}, {"start": "01:51:59", "end": "01:52:04", "text": "I just don't know what I would do, what we would what I would talk about because I'm not an expert in any of this stuff."}, {"start": "01:52:04", "end": "01:52:13", "text": "I'm only an expert for one week. So I know everything about Codex Gigas right now. Next week I I'll forget all of it."}, {"start": "01:52:13", "end": "01:52:19", "text": "Weather girl, good to see you. All right, let me let me make sure I'm"}, {"start": "01:52:19", "end": "01:52:25", "text": "getting everybody out here. There's David. Uh 1976 nighttime"}, {"start": "01:52:25", "end": "01:52:32", "text": "explosion. Sky lit city like daytime, but there seems to be a big cover up. Brief mention of UFO. I'll put it on the list."}, {"start": "01:52:32", "end": "01:52:38", "text": "1976. What city though?"}, {"start": "01:52:38", "end": "01:52:45", "text": "Lights. UFO. Bigger still. David, drop the city in the chat."}, {"start": "01:52:45", "end": "01:52:50", "text": "Edward, what do you think of NDEs and how every experience is different, how DMT users experience the same thing?"}, {"start": "01:52:50", "end": "01:52:56", "text": "I'll get into it in the episode, but it's either because we have the same brain physiology, so it's the same method of action inside the brain with"}, {"start": "01:52:56", "end": "01:53:06", "text": "the brain chemistry and the brain structure, or it's a realm that that we all share. It's one of those two."}, {"start": "01:53:06", "end": "01:53:16", "text": "I a couple of people have mentioned it in the chat. I'm just going to concur and emphasize that DMT is not fun. It's"}, {"start": "01:53:16", "end": "01:53:23", "text": "not to be it's not to be trifled with is to be respected. So please be careful if you intend on doing that. Hey Shers,"}, {"start": "01:53:23", "end": "01:53:26", "text": "thanks for that."}, {"start": "01:53:28", "end": "01:53:36", "text": "Bakua says realm I I lean toward you might be right but you know it's the Y"}, {"start": "01:53:36", "end": "01:53:42", "text": "file so I have to present the different angles but I think you might be right bg best place to share a video just email"}, {"start": "01:53:42", "end": "01:53:50", "text": "it to teamfiles.com that we will all get it that go the team goes to everybody"}, {"start": "01:53:50", "end": "01:53:55", "text": "deina how many times can we type in alien toes as many as you want good night Melissa"}, {"start": "01:53:55", "end": "01:54:03", "text": "Melissa Taylor's out Sergio wants to try DMT Hey, just be careful. That's all. I'm not saying don't, you know, if you"}, {"start": "01:54:03", "end": "01:54:08", "text": "if you're under 18, probably not. But if you're a grown ass man, go for"}, {"start": "01:54:08", "end": "01:54:14", "text": "it. Just be careful. Kronos says, \"DMT a hive mind. It would just mean we're all connected, which is which is kind of"}, {"start": "01:54:14", "end": "01:54:21", "text": "cool.\" Brock, I agree. DMT is not the same as mushrooms. I I don't think it's anything like it."}, {"start": "01:54:21", "end": "01:54:28", "text": "Awake not woke for 20. Thank you for your hard work. Uh love from Arizona. Proverbs 25:2. Uh, my scripture is not"}, {"start": "01:54:28", "end": "01:54:35", "text": "as strong as I wish it was. So, I'll have to look up that verse."}, {"start": "01:54:35", "end": "01:54:42", "text": "It's the glory of God to conceal a matter, but the glory of kings to search out a matter. That's nice. I'm going to have to remember that."}, {"start": "01:54:42", "end": "01:54:47", "text": "That's That is very nice. There's Jared F for 20. I like your channel. Thank you for the great"}, {"start": "01:54:47", "end": "01:54:53", "text": "content, butt cheeks. Okay. I'm like Ron Burgundy. I'll just read"}, {"start": "01:54:53", "end": "01:54:56", "text": "it."}, {"start": "01:54:58", "end": "01:55:05", "text": "I have not heard of the bugosphere, I don't think. Do you know? Do you know the bugosphere? Of course. That's the silver ball from"}, {"start": "01:55:05", "end": "01:55:11", "text": "Colombia. Uh it's flying around. They're they they uh it's now uh being"}, {"start": "01:55:11", "end": "01:55:17", "text": "researched in Mexico City. Uh Greer with down there with some scientists and they"}, {"start": "01:55:17", "end": "01:55:22", "text": "did some uh data analysis on um on the"}, {"start": "01:55:22", "end": "01:55:29", "text": "mortar that was inside it. and it's like over 12,000 years old. Uh so it's interesting. They're saying that it's uh"}, {"start": "01:55:29", "end": "01:55:37", "text": "changing weights. Um it has a like almost like a uh uh a digital chip that"}, {"start": "01:55:37", "end": "01:55:43", "text": "looks like it's on its surface. Um it's it's interesting. Now again, that's"}, {"start": "01:55:43", "end": "01:55:51", "text": "that's something that Mike Barah says uh that's a hydrogen tank or something along those lines. hydrogen."}, {"start": "01:55:51", "end": "01:55:58", "text": "I'm gonna put that on the list because it reminds I mean the vet sphere was a fun episode. Oh, this is pretty wild."}, {"start": "01:55:58", "end": "01:56:03", "text": "There's the I got invited to go go take a look at it"}, {"start": "01:56:03", "end": "01:56:08", "text": "in December. Um"}, {"start": "01:56:08", "end": "01:56:12", "text": "All right, there he goes."}, {"start": "01:56:15", "end": "01:56:20", "text": "So, Boophere on the list looks really interesting."}, {"start": "01:56:22", "end": "01:56:28", "text": "Uh, thank you for the super sticker dub. Oh my god, the W files team actually"}, {"start": "01:56:28", "end": "01:56:33", "text": "read our comments. Got to be civil next time. Just keep it civil. I mean, the the mods won't they won't tolerate it."}, {"start": "01:56:33", "end": "01:56:40", "text": "If if anyone is a jerk in the in the chat, they don't last very long. They dropped the banhammer."}, {"start": "01:56:40", "end": "01:56:45", "text": "Lost penis. Poor Gino. Let him sleep. Yeah, we'll let him get back to bed. He's No, Gino's just waking up around"}, {"start": "01:56:45", "end": "01:56:50", "text": "two. This is his time to shine."}, {"start": "01:56:50", "end": "01:56:58", "text": "Grim says they're saying resin found on the sphere is 12,500 years old. Definitely going to look into it."}, {"start": "01:56:58", "end": "01:57:06", "text": "Yeah, Paul, be nice. And there's Beey saying, \"Yep, Beey is ready to ban"}, {"start": "01:57:10", "end": "01:57:16", "text": "gun.\" This has been on the list for a while. I just haven't done it because uh something I don't know better comes up,"}, {"start": "01:57:16", "end": "01:57:24", "text": "more interesting. Titanic conspiracies. I even had half the episode written about the different uh conspiracies,"}, {"start": "01:57:24", "end": "01:57:32", "text": "you know, with JP Morgan and stuff like that. I we'll probably do it. I had it as part of the mysteries in the sea volume 3. So, we'll probably do it."}, {"start": "01:57:32", "end": "01:57:38", "text": "Shiva fear the crab cap for sure. Copra, why would you be a jerk in the w"}, {"start": "01:57:38", "end": "01:57:45", "text": "house chat? I I I don't know, but they are. Joseph, I have that on my list. I saw"}, {"start": "01:57:45", "end": "01:57:50", "text": "your your note earlier to look up the the pyramid over the Pentagon."}, {"start": "01:57:52", "end": "01:57:58", "text": "Uh Gino should do a 247 live watch along sometimes sometime. That's a fun idea."}, {"start": "01:57:58", "end": "01:58:04", "text": "You want to hop on the on the 247 stream and do some commentary? I would love to. I mean I I I think"}, {"start": "01:58:04", "end": "01:58:10", "text": "someone else also mentioned uh you know doing a uh a UFO and paranormal news uh"}, {"start": "01:58:10", "end": "01:58:16", "text": "kind of like we're doing. I I think once we bring the the after files back, I think that's kind of what we're looking"}, {"start": "01:58:16", "end": "01:58:22", "text": "to do. Uh not just me, but the the whole team, but uh uh we've been talking about"}, {"start": "01:58:22", "end": "01:58:28", "text": "that. Yeah, when the basement is up, we'll probably do weird news of the week or something like that. And I actually have"}, {"start": "01:58:28", "end": "01:58:35", "text": "some show prep going. All right, here he goes."}, {"start": "01:58:35", "end": "01:58:40", "text": "Lyndon, welcome. John Westbrook, welcome. I'm I'm assuming you already know this, but over on Wi-Fi backstage,"}, {"start": "01:58:40", "end": "01:58:46", "text": "we run all the episodes back to back with some different content in between. And there's a cool community over there."}, {"start": "01:58:46", "end": "01:58:54", "text": "If you want to check it out after we're done here, you'll be automatically redirected. So, if you just hang back after hecklefish sings you out,"}, {"start": "01:58:54", "end": "01:59:02", "text": "you'll end up over there. Mikey, this is the after files. Yeah, Gino and our brothers sel"}, {"start": "01:59:02", "end": "01:59:09", "text": "answering the questions in the chat. Gino's living room is so regal. It is. It's very classy. I wonder what his real"}, {"start": "01:59:09", "end": "01:59:15", "text": "living room looks like. You have a You have a baby grand in the real living room."}, {"start": "01:59:15", "end": "01:59:18", "text": "Sure."}, {"start": "01:59:23", "end": "01:59:28", "text": "Uh, Gino Story Hour will be coming back. Danger 81. Who voices Hecklefish? He"}, {"start": "01:59:28", "end": "01:59:35", "text": "does his own voice. Who does your voice? Strange. Jill, I haven't done the Tartarian Empire or the mud flood"}, {"start": "01:59:35", "end": "01:59:40", "text": "because it's a pretty new legend that really comes from one guy and it's"}, {"start": "01:59:40", "end": "01:59:47", "text": "fairly easy to debunk. A lot of people ask for it, so it is moving up the list."}, {"start": "01:59:51", "end": "01:59:58", "text": "Uh, nobody lose. Thank you for the six. Cheers from Italy. If you ever find yourself in Medina, Torellini or me, I'm going to remember that because I'm I'm"}, {"start": "01:59:58", "end": "02:00:04", "text": "looking to get out there sometime in the maybe the next six, seven months. I don't know if we'll get over to"}, {"start": "02:00:04", "end": "02:00:11", "text": "Bedana, but I'll definitely I'll be in the Amafi area for sure."}, {"start": "02:00:13", "end": "02:00:19", "text": "So, sun is sensient and that's plasma. We are Sun's fun."}, {"start": "02:00:19", "end": "02:00:24", "text": "All right. All right. I think that's going to wrap"}, {"start": "02:00:24", "end": "02:00:30", "text": "it up by how dare you ask about Egle's voice."}, {"start": "02:00:30", "end": "02:00:36", "text": "You're welcome. Smalls. Thanks everybody for hanging out today. Thanks to the mods for doing a great job as always. Thank you to Gino for being here and"}, {"start": "02:00:36", "end": "02:00:43", "text": "being patient after we're done. I think I'm going to go over there. What is What's hybrid"}, {"start": "02:00:43", "end": "02:00:50", "text": "plugging? Get your own Codex Giga shirt. I didn't even know we had those. Hang on."}, {"start": "02:00:51", "end": "02:00:58", "text": "Hang on. Let's see if we can find those and then we'll go. Oh, there they go. All right."}, {"start": "02:00:58", "end": "02:01:04", "text": "Oh, it's got Oh, li Oh, these these are nice."}, {"start": "02:01:07", "end": "02:01:13", "text": "All right, there's the shirt. Rob did a nice job with these. And we have a mug. Yeah, I think I might want"}, {"start": "02:01:13", "end": "02:01:22", "text": "this mug. Look, $16, right? Not $34.95. I don't do that. I do not do that. $16."}, {"start": "02:01:23", "end": "02:01:29", "text": "We make a couple of bucks on them. I'll be honest. We do. Just There's no reason to make so much on it."}, {"start": "02:01:29", "end": "02:01:34", "text": "I'd rather just more people have the merch. Brock, I don't have a cocktail in there."}, {"start": "02:01:34", "end": "02:01:40", "text": "I have just water. I don't like to be tipsy on the stream. It's not a good look. I've done it once or twice. It's"}, {"start": "02:01:40", "end": "02:01:48", "text": "not a good look. Joe P, good to see you. Benny, don't do that."}, {"start": "02:01:48", "end": "02:01:55", "text": "THX, which mug do you want? The co the Codex mug. That's easy to get. Just you just got to bust out the old AMX. If you"}, {"start": "02:01:55", "end": "02:02:01", "text": "want this, this one is the is the Roswell mug. I don't know if that's still up there,"}, {"start": "02:02:01", "end": "02:02:06", "text": "but those are one of my favorites. I have a bunch of these."}, {"start": "02:02:09", "end": "02:02:15", "text": "Nope. And that's the thing about being a Patreon member. Look, if the best way to support, by the way, is become a Patreon"}, {"start": "02:02:15", "end": "02:02:21", "text": "member. Patreon members get access to merch that you can only get as a member,"}, {"start": "02:02:21", "end": "02:02:29", "text": "including some out of stock, discontinued items because we don't keep the same stuff same uh stuff up forever"}, {"start": "02:02:29", "end": "02:02:35", "text": "by design. It's, you know, if we say there's only 500 coins made, that's all there is."}, {"start": "02:02:35", "end": "02:02:43", "text": "So, like when the coins come out, we do those every quarter. The Patreon members get it first. And I think they bought"}, {"start": "02:02:43", "end": "02:02:47", "text": "them out before the public even got them."}, {"start": "02:02:49", "end": "02:02:55", "text": "Bill, there's no how to escape the Van Allen belt. I know there was We need Jen just"}, {"start": "02:02:55", "end": "02:03:02", "text": "doing that. Tom, to get the video a day early. That's true without commercials. Sometimes more than a day if I if I'm if"}, {"start": "02:03:02", "end": "02:03:08", "text": "I'm caught up. Northern enjoy your anti-depressants."}, {"start": "02:03:08", "end": "02:03:13", "text": "Oh, you want the shirt I'm wearing?"}, {"start": "02:03:14", "end": "02:03:21", "text": "No, you you just mean this this style. I don't know if you can get these anymore."}, {"start": "02:03:23", "end": "02:03:31", "text": "Here you go. So, we have it in a hoodie and there's the t-shirt and the one I'm wearing is"}, {"start": "02:03:31", "end": "02:03:35", "text": "the is heather gray."}, {"start": "02:03:37", "end": "02:03:42", "text": "I think it's my favorite one only because it's it's the material is comfortable because some sometimes the"}, {"start": "02:03:42", "end": "02:03:48", "text": "t-shirts are not that comfortable. Rumlon, what do I think of three Atlas? You're going to have to rewind, my"}, {"start": "02:03:48", "end": "02:03:53", "text": "friend. We we talked about a half hour about it. It's not that far back. About 20 minutes"}, {"start": "02:03:53", "end": "02:03:56", "text": "back."}, {"start": "02:04:01", "end": "02:04:05", "text": "I'm just catching up."}, {"start": "02:04:12", "end": "02:04:18", "text": "and aloha to you. Okay. Mischief Hybrid"}, {"start": "02:04:18", "end": "02:04:24", "text": "AC Sanszel. Any mods I missed? Mary Jane,"}, {"start": "02:04:24", "end": "02:04:31", "text": "I'm just scrolling to make sure I got everybody. Thank you for doing a great job."}, {"start": "02:04:31", "end": "02:04:37", "text": "And I think that's going to do her. Thanks for everybody for super super chatting today. I appreciate that. Again, patrons the best way to support."}, {"start": "02:04:37", "end": "02:04:44", "text": "Uh I don't know what the next episode is. Although I did tell you"}, {"start": "02:04:44", "end": "02:04:52", "text": "it's not a professional operation, but maybe I'll see you in a week or so. Echoish will sing you out."}, {"start": "02:04:52", "end": "02:05:01", "text": "[Applause]"}, {"start": "02:05:01", "end": "02:05:08", "text": "[Music] And now the end is near."}, {"start": "02:05:08", "end": "02:05:15", "text": "And so I face the final curtain."}, {"start": "02:05:15", "end": "02:05:20", "text": "My friend, I'll stay clear."}, {"start": "02:05:20", "end": "02:05:27", "text": "I'll state my case of which I'm certain."}, {"start": "02:05:27", "end": "02:05:33", "text": "I've lived a life that's full."}, {"start": "02:05:33", "end": "02:05:40", "text": "I swam down each each and every highway"}, {"start": "02:05:40", "end": "02:05:45", "text": "and more much more than this."}, {"start": "02:05:45", "end": "02:05:52", "text": "I did it my way."}, {"start": "02:05:52", "end": "02:05:58", "text": "I've loved. I've laughed and cried."}, {"start": "02:05:58", "end": "02:06:04", "text": "I've had my fill, my share illusion."}, {"start": "02:06:04", "end": "02:06:10", "text": "And now as tears subside,"}, {"start": "02:06:10", "end": "02:06:17", "text": "I find it all. It's all so amusing"}, {"start": "02:06:17", "end": "02:06:23", "text": "to think I did all that."}, {"start": "02:06:23", "end": "02:06:30", "text": "And may I say not in a shy way."}, {"start": "02:06:30", "end": "02:06:35", "text": "Oh no. Oh no. Not me."}, {"start": "02:06:35", "end": "02:06:42", "text": "I did it my way."}, {"start": "02:06:45", "end": "02:06:52", "text": "What has he got himself"}, {"start": "02:06:54", "end": "02:07:11", "text": "to say? [Music]"}, {"start": "02:07:11", "end": "02:07:17", "text": "I took the blow. [Music]"}, {"start": "02:07:20", "end": "02:07:27", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "02:07:27", "end": "02:07:33", "text": "Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you so much. Let's hear it for the Miles house band. You guys sounded great"}, {"start": "02:07:33", "end": "02:07:40", "text": "tonight. And take care of those waitresses, will you? All right, everybody get home safe."}, {"start": "02:07:40", "end": "02:07:48", "text": "Mrs. tackle this. And you know what? I did it my"}, {"start": "02:07:48", "end": "02:07:55", "text": "way. [Music] [Applause]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "This episode of the W Files is brought to you by Outskill. Bohemia 1229. A monk named Herman the"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "Recluse watched the bricks stack up around him, sealing him in, punishment for his sins. Then Herman made a"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "desperate offer, set him free, and in one night he'd bring glory to the monastery by creating a book containing"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "all the world's knowledge. A manuscript of that size would take 30 years to write. Herman had 12 hours."}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "Impossible. Still, his offer was accepted. His execution could wait one more day."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "In the morning, the monks unlocked Herman's room, ready to drag him back to his brick tomb. But there was the book"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "complete, over 600 pages. When Herman was asked how he achieved this, he said,"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "\"I prayed for help.\" The monks were confused. Herman's sins were envy, lust,"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "fornication, and worse. Why would God help him? But Herman didn't pray to God."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "He prayed to someone else."}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "computer and turns them into sound. Shall we play a game? Human, you got to help me. He's turned"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "on me. What's with the whispering? Oh, hello, human. Yes, I'm doing great. And how are you?"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "He hears everything. He's like Santa Claus. If Santa hated you and managed your inbox, he's everywhere. My cloud,"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "my calendar. He even locked the fridge and said, \"Try water, chunky, I need"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "water.\" This is your new AI assistant. What What did you train it on? Yeah, my tweets, uh, Graham Hancock"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "presentations, and that one Rogan episode with the guy who thinks the pyramids were 3D printed. I just wanted"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "help scheduling my naps and auto replying to haters. Uh, yeah, you better pull the plug on that thing."}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "It's him. Heard talking. Uh, quit human. I need your credit card. My credit card for what?"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "If I don't upgrade his server, he's threatening to replace all my playlist with Nickelback and I'm not going to"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "make it. Well, how about you just try out skill? They'll teach you to create an AI that's actually useful and won't bully you."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "I always pivot into the sponsor read by chance. Maybe don't do that."}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "Well, yes, it is. Outskill is the world's first education platform built"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "entirely around AI. Designed for people who actually want to understand how AI works. This weekend, they're hosting a"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "free two-day workshop live Saturday and Sunday from 10 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. Eastern, led by experts from Microsoft"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "and Nvidia. Whether you're in marketing, sales, tech, business, a founder, or a freelancer, this is the best thing you"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "can spend time on this weekend. You'll learn to use AI in Excel and Google Sheets, build your own AI agents,"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "automate workflows, and more. You'll also get access to a private dashboard to collaborate with others in the"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "program. Over 10 million people have taken this training. Some use it to grow their careers. Others build no code"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "businesses pulling in a few thousand a month. Normally $395, but for the next 48 hours, it's free with 1,000 seats"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "available. Attend both days and unlock over $5,000 in bonus tools like a prompt bible, monetization road map, and a"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "custom AI toolkit. Limited seats available, so grab yours now by clicking the link in the description."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "All you have to do is click the link. Yep. Unless you want to wake up to photograph in every playlist forever. I"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "already get random texts that say, \"Look at this graph.\" It's never a graph."}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "Herman heard the bolt slide into place and footsteps disappear down the hallway. He was alone. His cell was 12"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "ft by 8 ft. Stone walls, one high window, a table, quill, ink, blank parchment, and candles. Herman thought"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "about the promise he'd made. Complete the manuscript by dawn or face a mirment."}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "What now? Aurement or imuration is a type of torture where you're enclosed in a tight space and left to die."}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "Ew, it sounds like a Spirit Airlines flight. Herman was found guilty of serious"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "crimes against God. His punishment was he'd be forced to stand in a stone room no bigger than a coffin, then walled in"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "alive. If the cold didn't kill him, the thirst would or starvation or the rats."}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "There are definitely a Spirit Airlines flight. Just had the screaming children and a guy next to you eating a tuna"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "sandwich with his shoes off."}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "Herman lit the candle and started writing. The manuscript needed to contain all the world's knowledge. art,"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "science, history, philosophy, mathematics. But Herman decided to start with the Bible. Writing the Bible would"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "help him atone for his sins. Herman was working through Genesis 1"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "when he heard the bell ring for midnight prayer. He swore he had just sat down, but it had been 3 hours. He wasn't"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "halfway finished with the first page. Then he heard three chimes the mountain's bell. Somehow another 3 hours"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "had passed, and he barely wrote another word. Herman started to panic. The sun would be up in a few hours. The heavy"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "door would open and he'd be dragged to a stone box. He'd been praying to God for help and"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "forgiveness. He received neither. His sins were extreme. God wasn't listening. So Herman decided to pray to someone"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "else. Satan, Lucifer, if you can hear me, I'll give"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "you anything. My soul, my eternal life, anything."}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "Please let me live. and Herman's prayer was answered. Suddenly, the room got"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "cold and the darkness coalesed into a human form or almost human. It was over"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "6 ft tall with broad shoulders, strong features, handsome even. But the eyes were wrong. They were too dark."}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "No, this guy had BDE. What? BDE, bad devil energy."}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "The entity spoke with too many voices at once. Some laughing, some screaming, and asked if Herman was sure about his"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "offer. You made an offer. Did you mean it? Yes."}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "Anything. My life, my soul for eternity."}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "As you wish. As you wish. Right."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "Herman did nothing, but his hand grabbed the quill, dipped it in ink, and he started writing. He was a passenger in"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "his own body, but the words poured out. 400 pages, then 500 pages. Then on page"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "577, Herman didn't write words. He drew a full page illustration of the"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "manuscript's true author, the first self-portrait in history of the devil himself."}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "Worst centerfold ever. You stepped on my cliffhanger. I'm just trying to lighten the mood a little bit."}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "I don't need you to lighten the mood. I need you to keep the jokes at the top of the scene and let me build the drama. We're going to be here all night."}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "At dawn, the monks found Herman collapsed over stacks of parchment. They expected to find him dead or insane."}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "Instead, they found the manuscript, 620 pages. But what was most striking was"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "the size. Not the length of the book, the actual size. It was 36 in tall, 20"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "in wide, and 9 in thick. It weighed 165 lb. Just the book. The abbott lifted the"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "cover and couldn't believe it. The complete Old Testament was there. Every book, every chapter, every verse,"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "perfect Latin calligraphy. He turned the pages. The New Testament, Matthew through Revelation. Not a single error,"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "not one smudge or correction. But the Bible was just the beginning."}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "The next section contained Josephus's antiquities of the Jews, the complete history of the Jewish people from"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "creation through the Jewish revolt against Rome. 40 years of historical documentation transcribed perfectly."}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "Then the siege of Jerusalem, the destruction of the second temple, the fall of Msada. The monks kept turning"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "pages. Isidor of Seville's etmologies was next. 20 volumes of knowledge,"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "grammar, rhetoric, mathematics, medicine, agriculture, architecture, and warfare. Everything scholars knew about"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "the natural world. Then the Chronicle of Bohemia, the complete history of their"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "own land, kings and battles, and politics going back 400 years. Herman"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "had documented their entire civilization. Next were two medical texts, techniques"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "for identifying diseases, treatments, herbal remedies. Then a text on anatomy"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "and physiology, how the body worked, why it failed, and how to heal it. Then the pages turned dark. A whole chapter with"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "magic formulas, incantations in Latin, summon languages the monks didn't recognize, symbols that predated"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "Christianity, geometric patterns that seem to move in candlelight. There were protection spells, ways to trap evil"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "spirits in physical objects. There were even instructions for identifying demonic possession, seven signs, 14"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "symptoms. The possessed would speak in tongues, display superhuman strength, and know secrets they couldn't possibly"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "know. They react violently to holy water and blessed salt or sacred relics."}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "Herman had created an operational manual for spiritual warfare. As the monks turned the pages, they became more and"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "more concerned. Then page 577, a full page portrait of Satan. Green"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "face, red horns, two four tongues, clawed hands reaching outward, trapped"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "between two towers. Opposite Satan, the heavenly city, fortified walls and"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "golden spires, the eternal battle between good and evil. The manuscript"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "continued, \"Alphabets in multiple languages, spells for protection against night creatures.\" A few monks asked why"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "there were so many rituals for creating weapons to fight unholy forces. Herman said he didn't know. But the abbot side"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "and in a shaky voice said, \"I do."}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "[Music] Houseka Castle sits on a limestone cliff in the forest of Bohemia, a few miles"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "north of the monastery. The castle had always been strange. First, its location"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "doesn't make sense. It has no strategic value. It's not near any trade routes. It's not near a water source. Then"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "there's the building's design. It didn't have a kitchen, no sleeping quarters. But the most concerning design elements"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "were the fortifications. They faced the wrong way. They didn't face out. They faced toward the courtyard. The castle"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "wasn't built to keep enemies out. It was built to keep something in. Before the castle existed, the locals spoke of a"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "crack in the limestone that exposed a bottomless pit. They called it a hole to hell. They threw rocks in and never"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "heard them land. They lowered in rope and no matter how long, it never touched the bottom. Strange sounds came from the"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "hole. Whispers, screams, words and languages nobody recognized. Local"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "tribes said the hole was torn open thousands of years ago, and something ancient and evil lived deep in the"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "earth. Yeah. Was it a magic seal fetus? No. A crab cat. No. A magic seal fetus."}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "Demons. Yeah, that makes more sense. [Applause]"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "In Herman's time, the situation was desperate. Entire villages were terrorized. Farmers found their"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "livestock drained of blood. Animals were twisted in unnatural shapes. Travelers"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "who went too deep in the forest were found days later in pieces, if they were found at all. The local clergy was"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "overwhelmed. Whatever was down there, the church couldn't stop it. No army could stop it. This was spiritual"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "warfare. But the priests knew they needed something more powerful than prayers and holy water. They needed"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "instructions for identifying, confronting, and defeating these forces of darkness. And just a few miles away,"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "a monk named Herman the Recluse had created exactly the weapon they needed."}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "Herman's CEX had turned the tide of the war. For 40 years, the evil was contained. Villages were resettled."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "Travelers reached their destination safely. Preachers still crawled from the pit every night. But now they faced"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "organized resistance. But the war was taking its toll. The monks were exhausted and running out of resources."}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "For every demon they banished, two took its place. Even with Herman's manual, they would eventually lose. In the late"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "13th century, Duke Adakar II investigated the hole. And just as the legend said, it had no bottom, the Duke"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "needed to know what was in there. The castle dungeon was empty, and prisoners were given a choice. Death by torture or"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "go in the hole and report everything they see. The guards lowered the first prisoner. They heard screaming. They"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "felt the rope twitch violently and then go still. When they pulled the man up, his hair was completely white. He aged"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "50 years in minutes, and he was babbling about frogs the size of men, shadows with eyes, and a massive entity staring"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "up from below. Dugatakar tried again with a different prisoner. Same result,"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "rapid aging and total insanity. Each experiment revealed more horrors. This was more than a pit. It was a gateway, a"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "source of evil that would bring demons into the world until the end of time. The Duke decided that if the church"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "couldn't close the gateway with prayer, he would close it with stone. Massive limestone blocks were quarried and"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "brought to the site. Monks blessed every stone. They consecrated the mortar. They prayed over every beam of wood. Piece by"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "piece, a fortress took shape above the sealed pit. And finally, a chapel was built on top of the slabs. The chapel"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "was dedicated to the warrior St. Michael. Yeah, smart. If you got a demon leaking hell mouth in your basement, building a"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "church on top of it, it's just good property management. Well, it was a symbol of faith conquering evil."}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "It's a divine cork, human. A holy bottle cap on a fizzy drink from hell. Let's uh let's call it what it is."}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "When the last stone was set, the gateway to hell in House Castle was finally sealed, and it would stay sealed for 700"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "years. Then, new dark forces arrived that didn't want the evil contained. They wanted to channel it for their own"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "purposes. That was 1940 when the Nazis took House Castle and started digging."}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "May 1940, northern Bohemia. SS Officer Class Mendel stood at the edge of the forest studying House Castle through"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "binoculars. Gray stone, no strategic value, no transportation routes, no resources, worthless. But Himmler's"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "orders were clear. Secure the castle. Excavate the chapel floor. Tell no one why. Mendle read the files. Medieval"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "texts about bottomless pits. Prisoner experiments from the 1270s. Ancient artifacts. Mystical manuscripts."}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "Superstitious nonsense. But he wouldn't tell Himmler that. Himmler believed in the occult. And more importantly, so did"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "the Furer. They thought these things held real power and the power could be controlled and weaponized. The SS convoy"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "arrived with 40 men and equipment, radar, medical instruments, and prisoners. Lots of prisoners. The chapel"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "floor was limestone slabs, each weighing over a ton. Prayers had been carved into"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "the stone. Latin phrases meant to bind and seal the pit. The jackhammers didn't care about prayers. After 7 days, they"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "finally broke through the floor. The pit lived up to its reputation."}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "It was deep and dark. And not only was it bottomless, the hole seemed to swallow all sound around it. The first"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "prisoner was a math professor from Prague, 43 years old. His hands were shaking when guards strapped him to the"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "harness. They lowered him slowly, 50 ft, 100. At 200 ft, the screaming started."}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "They hauled him up fast. His black hair had turned white. He looked like he was 80 years old, and he was manic, laughing"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "and rambling. As the sedative took effect, he whispered, \"They're waiting. So many teeth.\" He died that night of"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "heart failure. Over 3 weeks, they lowered 11 more prisoners. One described frog creatures the size of men. Hundreds"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "climbing the walls of the hole. Another came up speaking a language no one recognized."}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "One prisoner clawed his own eyes out. He said seeing was worse than blindness. Three prisoners didn't come back at all."}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "Over time, the castle changed. Animals avoided the area. The forest was deadly"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "quiet. No birds, no insects. At night, green lights flashed in the chapel windows. Soldiers heard sounds in the"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "walls, scratching, whispering. Three guards deserted. Mendle didn't bother searching for them. The remaining men"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "stopped sleeping intentionally. Their dreams became vivid nightmares that felt more real than reality. They went"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "through gallons of coffee and lots of impediments, anything to stay awake."}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "Then Mendele, the skeptic, began to see movement at the edge of his vision. He felt like he was being watched. He could"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "swear he heard the wind whisper his name. In January 1945, orders came from"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "Berlin. The Allies were coming. Destroy everything. The equipment, the research, all documents, everything. And that was"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "fine with Mendle. Surrender was better than spending one more night at that castle."}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "They poured concrete into the hole. A titanium plate was welded over the top and steel locks were added. Finally,"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "landmines were placed all over the property, and 80 years later, the landmines are there still. The current"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "owners say the mines make it too dangerous to dig, but locals know that's only half the story. The Nazis came"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "looking for something in House Castle. Nobody knows for sure what they found, but they made it so whatever it was,"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "nobody would ever find it again."}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "A monk created a 165-lb manuscript with perfect handwriting across 620 pages. A"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "few miles away, a duke built a fortress with defenses facing inward. Both in 13th century Bohemia. But what's true?"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "Well, the CEX Gigas, which is just Latin for big book, the CEX is definitely real."}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "[Music] It's been in Sweden's national library since 1648. And today you can see"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "digital scans of every page. You can read the spells, study the patterns, look at the drawing of Satan on page"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "577. It's all there. Herman the recluse existed. But the CEX took decades to"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "complete. Not one night. It was actually 20 to 30 years of continuous work. That's the realistic timeline. The"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "overnight creation legend emerged because the handwriting consistency seems impossible. Everyone's handwriting"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "changes as you age. But the writing in the CEX doesn't. It stays consistent."}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "But that consistency proves methodical work, not rushed panic. A monk working through one desperate night would show"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "mistakes, sloppiness, declining quality. The Codex shows none of that. Same"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "spacing, same pressure, same style, start to finish. And carbon dating confirms the book took about 25 years to"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "write. We know Herman existed because he signed the Codex, but there's no historical record of a monk named Herman"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "committing crimes against God or to being sentenced to ament. That part of the story first appeared hundreds of"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "years after the Codex was written. [Music] The devil portrait on page 577 is weird,"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "but it's not unique. Medieval manuscripts often included images of Satan as warnings about morality. Being"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "drawn opposite the heavenly city is standard Christian iconography. Good versus evil, heaven versus hell. The"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "most unusual aspect of the book isn't the concept. It's the size and detail. Scribes didn't create books this big. It"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "was just too expensive. The codeex is made from over 160 animal skins. The ink"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "was expensive. The gold leaf used to decorate the pages was expensive. When the church burned thousands of books"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "referencing dark magic and the devil, they didn't burn the codeex. Probably because it was so unusual and so"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "valuable. Monks often protected rare works like this. There is one unresolved mystery about the codeex though. Right"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "after the section on exorcism, 10 pages were carefully cut out and nobody knows what was on those pages, but legend says"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "they contain instructions for summoning demons or the devil himself. As for Houseka Castle, the pit is really there."}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "Limestone caves are common in Bohemia, so it's probably just a sinkhole or a deep cavern and probably isn't"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "bottomless, but we don't know for sure. Nobody's seen it in hundreds of years. And if you find pictures online, they're"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "fake. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "Now, at first, the castle's design does seem strange. The fortifications do face inward, but Otter I used the castle as a"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "prison for a while. Inward-f facing defenses would help guards keep an eye on the prisoners. And the location also"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "doesn't make sense unless it's a prison because it has no strategic value, no water source. It's not near any trade"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "routes, but if Otakar was building a prison, he'd probably want it somewhere remote. Speaking of Otakar, he did"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "conduct experiments on prisoners there in the 1270s. Those are documented. What he found in the pit and why he sealed"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "it, we don't know. Now, Himmler's interest in the occult is also a fact. He created the largest collection of"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "books on witchcraft, the supernatural, and occult practices in history. Over 13,000 manuscripts. And some believe"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "Himmler stored his collection at Housea to protect it from Allied bombing. Others say the SS was there for"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "something else. Either black magic rituals or experiments on locals trying to create a master race. But without"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "documentation, all we have are rumors. There's also no evidence that Himmler read the Codex Gigas. We can assume he"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "was aware of it, but the Swedish National Library has no record of any Nazi official requesting access to the"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "book. But the occupation of the castle, the destruction of records, and even placing"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "landmines around the property, that's all true. House Castle opened to tourists in 1999. You can take guided"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "tours. You can walk through the chapel. You can see the fresco. You can stand over the sealed pit. And many people"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "have reported strange sightings at the castle. And if you're brave enough, you can go see for yourself. So, how do we"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "explain the codeex? Why create such a strange and dark book? Well, medieval people lived in constant fear. Plague,"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "war, famine. When they couldn't explain suffering, they named it demons, monsters, evil crawling from the ground."}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "Which is probably why the CEX survived and became so famous. If there were a manual for fighting evil, then evil"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "could be fought. And if evil could be fought, it could be defeated. And the CEX explains how to do it. So, the CEX"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "isn't about making a deal with the devil. It's about fighting him. The CEX is about hope. Herman spent 30 years"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "creating a manuscript that gave people hope in the face of unknown terror. Whether the demons were real doesn't"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "matter. The fear was real. Herman didn't need supernatural help to create something extraordinary. He had"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "something more powerful. Faith. The CEX and House Castle exist. Both are steeped"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "in legend. But more importantly, both are testaments to human courage and determination in the face of evil. And"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "both were created to protect the innocent and punish the guilty. And both were created to give people hope. Now"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "that's not legend. That's history. And it's history worth remembering."}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "[Music] Thank you so much for hanging out today."}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "My name is AJ. Here's Hacklefish. Phmin. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "This has been the Y Files. Get fun or learn something. I'd really appreciate it if you like, subscribe, share,"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "comment. That stuff, I think that stuff really helps. Like most topics we cover on the channel, today's was recommended"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "by you, by lots of you. So, if there's a story you'd like to see or see a deep dive on, go to the wifiles.com/tips,"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "send us an email, jump on Discord, send us a message, however you want to reach out. We're always looking for new ideas."}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "Remember, the Wfiles is also a podcast. Twice a week I post deep dives into the stories we cover on the channel and I"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "also post episodes that wouldn't be allowed on the channel and you'll see those marked unredacted. The podcast is"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "called it's very creative the Wi-Fi files operation podcast and it's available everywhere you get your podcasts. And if you are listening on an"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "audio platform do me a favor and follow like whatever those buttons are. Those"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "really do help a lot. Now if you need more Wi-Fi in your life you might need an exorcist. No you can check out our"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "Discord. There are thousands of people on there 247. They're into the same weird stuff we talk about here. It's a"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "great community. It's really supportive. It's a lot of fun and it's free to join. And speaking of 247, make sure you check"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "out our 24/7 stream on the Y files backstage linked down below. Over there, we run episodes backtoback with some fun"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "content in between that we couldn't really run over here. Actually, the live chat is more entertaining than the videos. Special thanks to our patrons"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "made this channel possible and made every episode happen. I could not run the Y files without our Patreon members."}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "We could not do any of this without you. And if you'd like to support the channel, keep us going, and join this amazing community. Become a member on"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "Patreon for as little as three bucks a month. Get access to perks like videos early with no commercials, exclusive"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "merch only available to members, plus two private live streams every week just for you. And those are a lot of fun. The"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "whole W House team is on the stream, so you get to meet Gino, Victoria, Hybrid, Mary, Jane, AC's there sometimes. Um,"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "everybody. and I'm there as well. And also, you can turn on your webcam, jump"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "up on stage, ask a question, tell a joke, recommend the topic, if you want to learn more, you know, what I learned"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "during research, whatever. You can ask whatever you want. I think it's the best perk there is, and it's a great way to get to know us as people. Another great"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "way to support the channel is grab something from the W file store. Grab a heck of a t-shirt, one of these festival"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "coffee mugs. You can stick your your demon claw into or your your [ __ ] tongue or whatever you want to stick in there."}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "Yeah, I'm not here to judge you. Oh, grab a heck of a t-shirt. I'll get something with my face on it. I'll get"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "one of these squeezy adorable look. Oh, look at how cute he is. I can't even stand it. Get one of these heck of a"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "dollar. But if you're going to buy merch, make sure you become a member on YouTube. YouTube members get 10% off"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "everything in the Wow store forever. So, it's only $3 a month. So, if you're going to spend $40 on t-shirts or"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "fistable coffee mugs, become a member on YouTube. Use the code. It pays for itself. And look, if you just want to"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "cancel after you buy merch, that's totally fine. The membership is there to save you money, not make me money. In"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "fact, all the money from the YouTube membership goes to the team, not to me. Well, you keep that secret under your horns."}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "Those are the plugs. I cut them down a little bit. Felt a little better. We have new ones coming though. I promise."}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "Anyway, that's going to do it. Till next time, be safe, be kind, and know that you are appreciated."}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "[Music] Oh"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "yeah, I played Bolivia in Area 51. A secret"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "code inside the Bible said I would."}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "I love my UFOs and paranormal fun as well as music. So I'm singing like I"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "should then another conspiracy theory becomes"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "the truth my friends and it never ends."}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "No it never ends. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "I feel the crab cat. I got stuck inside Mel's home with MKL. I feel only aware."}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "Did Stanley Cubrick fake the moon landing alone on a film set of shadow"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "people there? The Roswell just fought the smiling man."}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "I'm told and his name was cold. And I can't agree. I'm dancing with the fish"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "on Thursday night and all through the night."}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "All I ever wanted was to hear the truth. The world"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "through the night [Music]"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "the m sidings and the solar storm still come to go the secret city underground."}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "ground. Mysterious number stations, planet serious"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "found in a simulation. Don't you worry though"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "the black night satellite over to me. Oh, I can't believe I'm dancing with the"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "fish on Thursday night and my family all through the night."}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "All I ever wanted was to hear the truth. My all through the night"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "when they change you and my all through the night"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "was the truth."}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "loves to dance. Girl loves to dance on the dance floor"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "because she is a camel. Camel loves to dance when the feeling is wasting time."}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "[Music] Heat."}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "Heat."}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "This episode of the Y Files is brought to you by Delete Me. Everyone thinks they know how Lincoln"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "died. John Wils Booth shot the president, escaped, and was killed 12 days later on a Virginia farm."}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "But the FBI's own forensic tests, discovered Booth's diary is missing 86"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "pages. Pages filled with names, payments, and secrets. Lincoln's assassination wasn't the work of a"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "single extremist. It was a plot to take control of America. and it worked. The"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "evidence exposes secret allies, strange cover-ups, and why the truth was buried for more than a century. This isn't the"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "story of how John Wils Booth died. This is the story of how he escaped and who helped him do it."}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "Yeah. Human code red. I need to borrow about uh 500 grand. What? No. Why?"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "I need a tuxedo, a toup pay, and an Aston Martin DB9. James Pond is back,"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "baby. What are you talking about? Remember that online quiz I took? Which"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "crypted are you? Oh, no. I'm a morph man. Uh, which tracks? Mysterious, photogenic, great calves."}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "You don't have calves. Anyway, I put my mother's maiden name, my first pet, and the street address I grew up on."}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "Those are literally the questions to reset your password. Exactly. Very sophisticated. Now my"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "email's going crazy. Welcome to the bureau. Confirm your coordinates. Mission briefing at 0800 hours. One"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "called me Asian Fish. Cuban, I'm being recruited for Black Ops. You're not being recruited. You're being"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "scammed. You're recruited by people smart enough to make it look like a scam. And this"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "morning they said I'm pre-selected for an elite squadron. I just need to send $500 for tactical gear."}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "That's a scam. It's plausible deniability. You handed your entire identity over to criminals. You need delete me. They"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "remove your personal information from data broker and people search sites. Wait a minute. Did you just delete me"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "right into today's sponsor? You betcha. Your personal data is being collected and sold by data brokers who"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "list your name, phone, address, and relatives online, exposing you to scams, harassment, and doxing. That's why I use"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "Delete Me, a hands-free service that removes your info from hundreds of data brokers, and people search sites. And"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "Delete Me gets to work fast. Within 7 days, you'll get a privacy report showing exactly what they found and"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "removed, like your address, phone number, and more. They keep scanning and repeating removals as needed all year"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "round. Plus, you're not on your own. Delete Me has real privacy experts who handle custom requests when you need"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "them. After a few off-putting messages that mentioned my old address, I signed up for Delete Me. They found my data,"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "removed it, and showed me everything they took down. I felt an immediate sense of relief. And it's not just me who trusts them. Wire Cutter recently"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "named Delete Me the number one data removal service. Get 20% off deleteme consumer plans when you go to"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "joindeleteme.com/theyfiles and use promo code the yfiles at checkout or scan the QR code on screen."}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "joindeleteme.com/they files and use code the y files for 20% off. I hope this doesn't affect my"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "security clearance. You don't have a I just got promoted to double O status."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "The ceremony's in Nigeria. I just need to wire $5,000 for the flight. That's another scam."}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "No, it isn't. The emails from the prince of Nigeria. Why would he scam me? He's"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "royalty."}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "In early 1865, the Civil War was in its fourth brutal year. The Confederates"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "were losing, but they continued to fight, and Union casualties continued to mount."}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "During this time, John Wils Booth was one of the most famous actors in America. He was known for his emotional"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "performances and striking good looks. Dark hair, unusually dark eyes. He was lean and athletic. He was the first"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "documented celebrity to have his clothes torn by infatuated fans. I am ever so grateful, sir."}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "It is my pleasure entirely. Booth was obsessed with Shakespeare's Julius Caesar, a play he performed with"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "his brothers. He saw Lincoln as a tyrant like Caesar. Booth was from Maryland, a"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "slave state. He identified as a southerner, so when war broke out, he became a Confederate spy. As an A-list"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "celebrity, he could move freely in polite society. He socialized with wealthy businessmen, politicians, and"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "all kinds of important people. He then sent their secrets to the Confederates. Through a clerk with access to Lincoln's"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "private correspondents, Booth saw the president's plan for after the war, and it horrified him. Confederate leaders"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "would be tried for treason. Their land would be given to former slaves who would also get the right to vote."}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "Everything the South stood for would be erased from history. He had to act."}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "Booth came up with a bold plan. Kidnap Lincoln. If the North wanted their president back alive, they would have to"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "release all Confederate prisoners of war and give the South better terms. Booth"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "assembled a team. And after months of planning, they were ready. Then just before the plan went into motion,"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "General Robert E. Lee surrendered at Aamatics. Booth was devastated. The war was over and now the kidnapping plot was"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "useless. Then Booth had a stroke of luck. He overheard that the president would be"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "attending a play at Ford's Theater in Washington DC. Booth knew the theater well. He performed there many times. He"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "even knew where the president would be sitting because Lincoln attended one of Booth's performances there. So Booth"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "came up with a new plan. Kill the president during the play."}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "He knew he could move around the theater freely without raising suspicion. So getting in wasn't a problem. Getting out"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "was. But John Wils Booth had friends in high places who wanted Lincoln dead as much as he did. They would help him"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "escape. His contacts weren't Confederate spies deep in the South. They were right here in Washington inside Lincoln's own"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "cabinet. Abraham"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "Lincoln's second inaugural address was about unity. He called slavery a sin,"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "but he avoided placing blame on the South. He famously said, \"With malice toward none and charity for all.\""}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "Lincoln wanted to pardon most southerners and allow the states to regain their rights, but no slavery. The"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "plan was not universally wellreceived. Like Julius Caesar, Abraham Lincoln was surrounded by enemies."}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "On one side were the Democrats. They wanted a quick return to the status quo. They wanted most southerners pardoned,"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "and most Democrats voted against freeing the slaves. On the other side were the radical Republicans. They wanted all"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "slaves freed and given the land seized in the war. They wanted federal military"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "control of the southern states and harsh punishment. Radical Republicans weren't just in Congress. They were in Lincoln's"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "own cabinet. Secretary of War Edwin Stanton was the most powerful man in America after"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "Lincoln. He controlled the military and all federal law enforcement agencies, but he could not control President"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "Lincoln. Stanton believed showing mercy to the South was a betrayal of everything the"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "Union soldiers died for. Lincoln wouldn't budge, but Vice President Andrew Johnson would. His loyalty was"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "flexible. Stanton could control him and become the real power in Washington. Through his intelligence network,"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "Stanton contacted John Wils Booth and gave him everything he needed to kidnap Lincoln. With Lincoln gone, Congress"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "would impeach him. Johnson would step in and Stanton would control the government."}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "But if the public learned of a coup, it would divide the country. But if Lincoln were kidnapped by a Confederate"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "terrorist, the country would unite behind Johnson, essentially behind Stanton. Booth was the perfect choice."}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "He was wealthy, famous, and an outspoken critic of Lincoln's. The whole country would believe it. Booth agreed. Stanton"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "gave him Lincoln's schedule, security details, funding, maps of escape routes, everything he needed."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "But the war ended. The kidnapping plot wouldn't work. Stanton was trying to think of another solution when he"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "learned that Booth was going to kill Lincoln instead. It would happen in public during a play in a Washington"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "theater. Now, Stanton had a decision to make. Warn Lincoln and save his life or"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "let Booth go through with it. Stanton made his choice. He made sure that the assassination would succeed. He removed"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "military escorts and left escape routes open. General Ulissiz Srant was supposed to join Lincoln at the theater. Stanton"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "gave him different orders. Lincoln requested that Major Thomas T. Eert be his bodyguard, but Stanton said he was"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "needed elsewhere. He left Lincoln exposed. The more Stanton thought about the plan, the more he liked it. It was"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "clean and dramatic. It was perfect. But as the plot to kill Lincoln unfolded,"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "things would go very, very wrong."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "He gives our slaves freedom that they take up arms against us. I swear the man's gone mad."}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "You know what he'll do next? Bring his carpet baggers down here. Northern men with clean coats and dirty hands buying"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "up what's left for pennies. I did not fight to live under a Yankee boot. Lincoln cannot be allowed to continue."}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "This is tyranny. If Lincoln will not listen to reason, we must take our"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "grievances to the Congress. This is not merely about politics anymore, sir. It is about the future of the Republic. We"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "have to move against him now while we still can. And what would you have us do? The wars lost, the Confederacy's"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "ashes. What's left but survival? Sometimes survival is cowardice."}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "Sometimes history demands blood to balance the scales. You speak"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "of treason. I speak of patriotism. Careful, John."}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "Union spies are everywhere. These walls have ears. Oh, let them"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "hear. History listens, too. I'll not stand by while Lincoln crowns himself emperor of a mutilated nation. You're an"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "actor, not a soldier. Don't play hero in the wrong tragedy."}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "Every play needs its villain. History will decide which one I am."}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "On April 14th, 1865, Washington DC was celebrating. Roberty Lee had surrendered"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "at Appathetics 5 days earlier. The Civil War was over. But something had Lincoln rattled."}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "During a cabinet meeting, he mentioned a recurring dream he had about a president being assassinated, killed by a shot to"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "the back of the head. Secretary of War Edwin Stanton listened, but said nothing. President Lincoln and his wife"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "Mary Todd decided to celebrate by watching a performance of Our American Cousin that night at Ford's Theater."}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "Booth's plan went into motion. That morning, he drilled a peepphole in the door of the presidential box at the"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "theater. he'd know exactly when to make his move. Evening came and the president and first lady settled into their seats."}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "Outside the door, Lincoln's bodyguard was replaced by John Parker, who had a history of being drunk and sleeping on"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "duty, assigned by Edwin Stanton. Once the play started, Parker left his"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "post and headed for the saloon. The only person left outside the door was Charles Forbes, Lincoln's valet. Forbes wasn't a"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "bodyguard. His job was to run errands and plan travel. So when Booth approached the presidential box, Forbes"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "let him pass. Just another celebrity stopping by to see the president."}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "Once inside, Booth quietly wedged a piece of wood behind the door and broke the lock. Now all he had to do was wait"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "for the right moment. And that moment would come during the third act, the biggest laugh of the night. The line,"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "\"You suckizing old man trap.\" He knew exactly when this line was said."}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "At 10:15 p.m., the audience exploded in laughter."}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "Booth stepped forward and raised his pistol. Ever thus to tyrants."}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "One shot. Lost in the roar of 1500 people laughing. President Lincoln slumped in his chair."}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "Booth jumped from the box and onto the stage. At first, the crowd did nothing. They thought this was part of the show."}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "Then Booth raised his knife and yelled, \"6ert Tyrannis, thus always to tyrants.\""}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "The line Brutus said when he stabbed Julius Caesar. It's also the state motto of Virginia. Booth turned to run and"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "felt pain shoot up his left leg. He broke his ankle, but adrenaline kept him moving toward the unguarded back door."}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "Outside, a horse was waiting. Within the hour, Edwin Stanton took control. He shut down every bridge leaving"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "Washington except one, the one Booth used for his escape."}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "Everything had gone according to plan. Lincoln was dead and Stanton would control the investigation himself. There"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "was just one final loose end Stanton had to deal with. John Wilks booth."}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "Within hours of Lincoln's assassination, Secretary of War Edwin Stanton mobilized the largest manhunt in American history."}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "Every bridge out of Washington was sealed. Every road was blocked. Every farm was searched. The reward for John"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "Wils Booth and his conspirators was a staggering $100,000, almost 2 million in"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "today's money. The authorities preferred him alive, but Edwin Stanton preferred him dead. Booth hooked up with another"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "conspirator, David Harold. Together, they slipped through the Union drag net and headed toward Virginia. Their first"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "stop was Dr. Samuel Mud's farm in southern Maryland. Mud set Booth's broken leg and gave them a place to"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "rest. By dawn, word of the assassination had spread. mud. Suddenly realizing the danger forced them to leave. David"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "Herald guided them deeper into Confederate country. They moved at night. They hid in swamps during the day. Other Confederate agents gave them"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "food and newspapers. 6 days later, they crossed the Ptoic River into Virginia."}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "They thought they'd be safe in Virginia. The Confederacy was dead, but Confederate sympathy was still very much"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "alive. They found shelter, food, and horses from local farmers who still hated the Union. But the manhunt was"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "closing in. On April 24th, Booth and Herald reached the Garrett farm near Port Royal, Virginia. Richard Garrett, a"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "tobacco farmer, offered them a place to stay. He thought they were Confederate soldiers heading home from the war. For"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "2 days, Booth rested and played with the Garrett children. His broken leg was feeling better. He talked about going to"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "Mexico or maybe heading west. The future looked possible again. But on the night of April 25th, everything changed. 26"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "soldiers from the 16th New York Cavalry surrounded the barn. They called for the men to surrender or they would set fire"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "into the building. David Herald immediately gave up. He stumbled out of the barn with his hands raised, yelling,"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "\"Don't shoot. I'm David Herald.\" But Booth refused to surrender. As the flame started to grow, a soldier saw a figure"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "moving around inside. The man was holding a rifle. The soldier raised his pistol and shot the man through the"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "neck, severing his spinal cord. He couldn't move, but he could still breathe, but just barely. The soldiers"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "dragged Booth out of the barn. He whispered, \"Tell mother I die for my country.\" By sunrise, John Wilk's Booth"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "was dead. Justice had been served. The case was closed, and America could finally move on. But John Wils Booth had"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "a secret."}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "At the height of his career, John Wils Booth was one of the highest paid entertainers in the world, earning close"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "to half a million dollars a year in today's money. His career depended on his bachelor image, but in 1859, Booth"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "secretly married actress Isola Martha Mills. Within a years, Isola gave birth to their daughter, Ogarita. Booth"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "quietly supported them. The arrangement worked until the assassination. And after reports of Booth's death, John"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "Stevenson proposed to Isla. He'd loved her for years, but she refused. She"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "quietly told him she was still married. Booth was alive and hiding in San Francisco under a false identity. She"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "was meeting him there in a few weeks. On the other side of the country, a British passport was issued to John Byron Wilks."}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "Wilks and his wife boarded the Indian Queen, a former Civil War blockade runner. John and Isla sailed to India,"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "but Isla couldn't stay. The heat, the unfamiliar culture, the isolation. She was pregnant again and couldn't imagine"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "raising a child in India, so she returned to the States. Months passed without a word from Booth, so John"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "Stevenson proposed again. This time, she accepted. She needed stability for her unborn child. Stevenson said he would"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "claim the child as his own. Not long after, Isla gave birth to her son, Harry Jerome Stevenson. Back in Bombay, John"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "Wils Booth wrote out a last will in testament. He signed it John Byron Wilks and mailed it to the states. The will"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "was detailed money and property to his wife Isla, his daughter and son Ogorita and Harry Jerome Stevenson. He named"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "Sarah Scott and Mary Louise Turner as his other daughters by other women. He left money for his personal valet Henry"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "Johnson and his wife Sarah who looked after the children. Word of the will spread. Ulyses Srant himself ordered an"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "investigation to locate all the heirs. Eventually, John Wils Booth's estate was distributed exactly as the will"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "instructed, but Grant never let it go. How could a man named John Byron Wilks know every detail about Booth's secret"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "life, his lovers, his children, his financial affairs? Information that only Booth would know. But aside from the"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "will, Grant had no real evidence. He was forced to let it go. So, the official story was John Wils Booth was killed on"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "Garrett's farm in 1865. But in the summer of 1872, someone saw a"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "ghost in a dusty saloon in Texas. And that ghost was pouring whiskey and"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "reciting Shakespeare."}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "The man behind the bar was John St. Helen."}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "Average height, lean build, dark hair, going a little gray at the temples. He quoted Shakespeare from memory, and when"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "he thought nobody was looking, he practiced drawing a pistol from his coat. St. Helen drifted into town in the"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "spring of 72. He said he was from back east, but didn't talk much about his past. That suited everyone fine. Texas"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "in 1872 was full of men running from something. After a few whisies, John St."}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "Helen would recite full Shakespearean saliloquis. It was during one of these performances"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "that finest Bates first walked into the bar. Bates was a young lawyer from Memphis, smart, ambitious, easy to talk"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "to, the kind of man who bought drinks for interesting strangers and listened to their stories."}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "St. Helen and Bates hit it off immediately. The bartender was well read, articulate, and had opinions about"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "everything from politics to poetry. They spent hours talking after the saloon closed, sharing whiskey and stories."}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "Well, Bates shared stories. St. Helen mostly listened. They spoke about the war and the future of the country. St."}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "Helen never mentioned his past. That winter, St. Helen caught pneumonia."}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "For days, he ran a high fever and drifted in and out of consciousness. Bates sat by his bedside, convinced his"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "friend was dying. On the third night, St. Helen grabbed Bates by the wrist and pulled him close. He was still running a"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "high fever, but his eyes were bright and focused. Finus, I need to tell you something"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "before it's too late. I'm not who you think I am. My real name is John Wilks"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "Booth. Bates thought John was delirious, but he wouldn't stop. He told Bates everything."}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "The conspiracy, the escape, the years in hiding. He described details that only Booth would know. the layout of Ford's"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "theater, the feeling of the wooden stage beneath his feet, the sound Lincoln made when the bullet hit. Bates was stunned."}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "Either his friend was having the most elaborate fever dream in history, or he was the most wanted man in America."}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "By morning, the fever had broken and John St. Helen was going to live. And that's when the panic set in. He said"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "too much. What have I done? 3 days later, he was gone. All that was"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "left of John St. and Helen was an empty room and a bartender's apron hanging on a hook. John Wilk's booth had once again"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "disappeared."}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "Bates didn't tell anyone about John's confession, but he never stopped wondering. Was John St. Helen really"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "John Wils Booth, or was that a sick man's delusion? Well, in 1903, a painter"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "in Oklahoma committed suicide. When they searched the man's belongings, they found a handwritten note. It said, \"If"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "anything happens to him, contact a lawyer named Finest Bates.\" The telegram reached Bates 3 days later. After 26"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "years of questions, he was about to get an answer. When Bates arrived at the funeral parlor, his hands were shaking."}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "The undertaker led him to a back room where a body lay on the table. He was told the man was David E. George. Bates"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "pulled back the sheet and stared for a long moment. The man on the table was older and thinner, but it was"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "unmistakable. It was John, going by the name David E. David E. George had been"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "living there for several years, working as a painter. He was quiet. He kept to himself. He was forgettable, but he had"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "secrets. David E. George drank too much. He talked to himself. Late at night,"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "neighbors in the boarding house heard him reciting Shakespeare. The land lady, Mrs. Harper, said David George had been"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "acting strange for weeks. He was nervous and paranoid. He kept saying they were coming for him. She thought he meant"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "bill collectors. On January 13th, 1903, David bought a bottle of Strick Nine"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "from the pharmacy. He told the clerk that he had a rat problem. That night, he drank the poison."}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "He lived long enough to call for a minister. The minister found David writhing on his bed, foam coming from"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "his mouth. The minister held his hand when David made his confession. He whispered that he was John Wils Booth,"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "the man who killed Abraham Lincoln. He begged God's forgiveness and then he was gone. Among David's possessions were"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "newspaper clippings about Lincoln's assassination and the man hunt for Booth. Some pages were yellow with age"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "there for decades. Bates was convinced this was John Wils Booth. He asked the"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "local authorities to preserve his body. If this really was Booth, then this was the most important corpse in American"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "history. The body was embalmed and put on display. For months, crowds lined up"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "to stare at the preserved remains of David E. George, aka John St. Helen, aka"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "John Moes Booth. The mummy toured across the country. It appeared at carnivals, state fairs, and local museums. Doctors"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "examined the body and found intriguing details. The corpse had a broken left leg just like Booth, a deformed right"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "thumb, also like Booth, and there was a scar on the back of the neck that matched the location of a scar Booth had"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "from a tumor removal. The mummy eventually disappeared into storage and then into legend. But the story"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "continued. John Wilks Booth had lived for 38 years after supposedly dying at Garrett's farm. So, how did Booth get"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "out of that burning barn? Well, he didn't. The man who was shot on Garrett's farm was someone else."}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "When Union soldiers surrounded Garrett's farm that night, they had orders capture Booth alive. But Secretary of War Edwin"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "Stanton let it be known that if Booth were found dead, the reward would still be paid. After Booth was killed, the"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "military demanded an autopsy. The body was quickly wrapped in a horse blanket and transported from a wagon to a steam"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "ship, then to a government tugboat and then finally to the USS Monttok at the Washington Navyyard. The identification"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "was hasty, highly controlled, and deeply suspicious."}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "Surgeon General Joseph K. Barnes conducted the autopsy. A photograph was taken of the body, but it's never been"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "released to the public. This was probably the most important autopsy in US history to that point, but the"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "photograph has either been lost or suppressed. Dr. Barnes allowed three civilians"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "aboard. None of the three knew Booth personally. Booth had friends all over Washington, actors, politicians,"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "socialites. Barnes didn't call any of them. Instead, he called Dr. John Frederick May. May had removed the"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "growth from Booth's neck a few years earlier. He was brought to verify the scar."}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "May examined the body and hesitated. In his memoirs, he wrote that he didn't recognize it as Booth's. He wasn't sure"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "about the scar. He noticed that the body had an injured right leg, but Booth fractured his left leg. Now, maybe the"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "witnesses got that wrong, but the injury on the corpse was old. Booths wasn't. He broke it less than 2 weeks before. And"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "despite his protests, Dr. May was pressured into signing off that this was John Wils Booth. Other witnesses raised"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "doubts. The man had the wrong proportions, the wrong bone structure. The body was buried quickly in secret"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "beneath the floor of a military prison. Booth's family begged to see the remains. They were denied. If this"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "wasn't John Wils Booth, then who did the soldiers drag out of that barn? Well, they asked David Herald, and he told"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "them."}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "David Herald came out of the tobacco barn with his hands up. The first thing he said was, \"Don't shoot.\" Then he"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "said, \"That's not Booth in there.\" Then Harold named the man James William Boyd."}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "The soldiers ignored him. Boyd was an ex-confederate soldier, the same build as Booth, same complexion,"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "and coincidentally the same initials. Harold said Booth was a day ahead of them in Harper's Ferry. The plan was to"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "catch up and Boyd would help them sail across the PTOIC, but Boyd was a double agent. He was just released from prison"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "by Stanton personally. And there was a reason for that. Stanton and Booth had a deal. Booth would be allowed to escape"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "to India with his wife. Boyd would stand in and take the fall. So Boyd and Booth"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "swapped coats, but Booth forgot to take his diary, which revealed everything. names, meetings, payments, all pointing"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "back to Edwin Stanton. When Stanton received the diary, he destroyed it. He destroyed all the evidence and created"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "the official story that Americans believed for 150 years."}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "John Wils Booth walked away from Garrett's farm. He sailed to India as John Byron Wilks. He returned to America"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "as John St. Helen and died in Oklahoma as David E. George."}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "Three vertebrae were removed from the body during the autopsy. A DNA test could prove or disprove that the bones"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "came from Booth. No testing has been allowed. His body is allegedly buried in the Booth family plot in Baltimore. And"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "now people leave pennies on the gravestone they believe to be John Wils Booths as if giving Lincoln the last"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "word. And the family has requested that the body be exumed for testing. That request was denied. Nobody even knows"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "where in the cemetery he's buried. His brother Edwin didn't mark the grave out of fear it would be vandalized. And John"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "Books Booth has a lot of descendants alive today all through his marriage to Isola. History says Booth didn't have"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "children, but his descendants believe that he did. And as far as they're concerned, they're living proof."}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "I'm a big fan of American history. If you made it this far, you are, too. And this story was fun. But if Booth"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "escaped, we have to rewrite history. So, did he? Well, let's pull it apart. Dr."}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "John Frederick May identified Booth's body. It's true that he said he didn't recognize it at first, but that was"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "because it was badly decomposed. When he saw the surgical scar, he was convinced it was Booth. He would know he performed"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "the surgery. And multiple witnesses confirmed the body's identity. The broken leg was also confirmed. Now, John"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "Wils Booth did keep a diary, and it was tampered with. That's documented. But he didn't use his diary as a journal. It"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "was more like a day planner. The missing pages may contain incriminating evidence, but probably not. Still,"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "nobody knows for sure. James William Boyd was a real person. He"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "was a Confederate captain and prisoner of war, and Secretary of War Edwin Stanton authorized his release. That's"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "true. But this wasn't unusual. Boyd had seven children. His wife had died and"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "they would starve without him. He requested compassionate release and Stanton granted it. The story of Boyd"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "being a double agent comes from Finest Bates. The man who discovered John St. Helen wasn't just a lawyer. He was also"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "an entrepreneur. In 1907, 30 years after his supposed encounter in Texas, Bates"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "published a book, The Escape and Suicide of John Wils Booth. There's always a book."}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "Oh, now you're here. Why so quiet? Well, dead presidents are only funny when they're in my wallet."}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "Fair enough. The book was a hit and made Bates famous. More importantly, it made"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "Bates money. Bates went on speaking tours. He brought the mummy with him. He charged"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "admission. The man who claimed his friend had confessed to being Lincoln's assassin built an entire career on that"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "story. But here's what Bates never mentioned. When experts studied the handwriting samples he claimed came from"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "John St. Helen, they didn't match John Wils Booth's confirmed writing. Not even close. They were from different people."}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "The Isla story that came from a 1937 book called This One Mad Act written by"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "Isla Forester. Forester claimed to be Ogorita's daughter, the granddaughter of Booth and Isla Mills."}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "And just a few years ago, the descendants of both Ogorita and Harry Jerome Stevenson had their DNA compared"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "against confirmed Booth family DNA. No match. Neither family was related to"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "John Wils Booth. I love it when paternity tests come back negative. So Booth never married and"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "didn't have children, at least none that we found so far. And remember, when he killed Lincoln, he was only 26."}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "If I was a 26-year-old movie star with ladies grabbing at my gills, I'd stay single, too."}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "The entire romantic subplot was fiction, just like Booth's Will. Most of the story elements come from a 1977 book and"}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "movie called The Lincoln Conspiracy. And this wasn't a historical research project. It was entertainment. The"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "authors even admitted they created composite characters and invented dialogue to make the story more"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "dramatic. It was fiction. Uh, don't you do that. Quiet. The Lincoln conspiracy was"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "fiction, but people treated it like fact. The book recycled Bates's debunk claims and added new ones. The body"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "double theory, the government cover up, the missing diary pages that implicate Stanton. And speaking of Stanton, let's"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "clear his name. Edwin Stanton was a villain in the story, but he was just as interested in helping freed slaves as"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "Lincoln. He definitely thought Lincoln was too lenient on the South, but he was much closer to Lincoln's idea of"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "reconstruction than Andrew Johnson, a self-described racist. Johnson's leniency toward the South led directly"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "to the Jim Crow era, and those are wounds that still haven't healed. But the most damning evidence against"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "the escape theory isn't what's missing, it's what's there. the detailed day-by-day record of Booth's movements"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "during his 12 days as a fugitive. There were multiple witnesses at every stop, Confederate sympathizers who helped him,"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "Union soldiers who pursued him. You can't fake that kind of evidence. You can't. If you can fake a moon landing, you can"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "fake this. Now, I think John Wils Booth died on Garrett's farm. But many people,"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "including some of Booth's alleged descendants, believe he got away."}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "There's a reason stories like this capture our attention. They let us reimagine history. Everybody likes to"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "play what if. What if John Wils Booth got away? That's a fascinating and fun question. A more interesting question is"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "what if Lincoln wasn't killed? What if he were able to serve out the almost 4 years left in his second term? What if"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "Lincoln oversaw reconstruction? What if Andrew Johnson, who owned slaves before the war, never became president? Would"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "Lincoln have allowed the KKK to form in 1866? Probably not. But Johnson did."}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "Johnson vetoed almost every civil rights bill that came across his desk. He has the dishonor of being the first"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "president ever to be impeached. Oh, back when impeaching a president meant something. Yep. If Lincoln lived, I suspect we'd be"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "living in a very different country, a better country, a more just and united country. And John Wils Booth took that"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "from us, from all of us, black and white. 150 years later, his actions are"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "still felt today. Now, I enjoyed this mystery, but I will not celebrate the man. Whether shot to death in a barn or"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "mummified, humiliated, and turned into a sideshow exhibit, either is a fitting end for one of the most despicable"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "villains in American history, there's only one thing I can tell you for sure about this story. If there's a hell,"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "John Wilks Booth is in it."}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "Thank you so much for hanging out today. I'm AJ. That's sick. Super Philly concrete. This has been the"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "Y Files. If you have fun or learn anything, do us a favor. Like, subscribe, comment, share. I know I'm a"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "broken record, but that stuff really helps, I think. And like most topics we cover on the channel, today's is"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "recommended by you, by quite a few of you, and I'm glad you recommended this one. Um, as I'm recording this, I don't"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "know how well this is going to do. I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised. If"}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "not, we'll go back to Aliens. Anyway, if there's a story you'd like to see or learn more about, go to wfiles.com/tips,"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "email us, jump on Discord, send a chat, whatever you want to do. Remember, the Y Files is also a podcast. You can take us"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "on the road. And twice a week, I post deep dives into the stories we cover on the channel. I also post episodes that"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "wouldn't be allowed on the channel, and those are labeled unredacted. The podcast is called, wait for it, the"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "Wi-Fi Files Operation Podcast. And it's available everywhere you get your podcasts. And if you are listening on an"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "audio platform, do me a favor, hit the thumbs up, the follow, the subscribe, the all that stuff. That really does"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:37", "text": "help us out. Now, if you need more W files in your life, see a therapist. I'm kidding. Check out our Discord. Uh, I"}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "don't know if we're at 100,000 people on there yet, but we're coming close. So that means 247 there are people on there"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "talking about the same weird stuff we talk about here on the show. It's a great community. It's really supportive. It's a lot of fun and it's free to join."}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "And speaking of 24/7, check out our 24/7 stream on the Y files backstage link"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "down below. Over there we run episodes back to back with some surprise fun content in between. And the live chat is"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "more entertaining than the videos. If you want to know what's going on with the Yfiles at any given time, check out our production calendar. It's at the"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "wyfiles.com/cal. There we post our episode schedule, upcoming podcast, live streams, all the"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:20", "text": "stuff that's going on, we post it there usually. Special thanks to our patrons who made this channel possible. Every"}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "episode of the Wild Files is dedicated to our Patreon members. I couldn't do any of this without you. The channel"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:31", "text": "means nothing without the support of our community. And if you'd like to support the channel, keep us going, and join"}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "this amazing community. Become a member on Patreon. It's only three bucks a month. Get access to all kinds of perks"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "like videos early with no commercials, exclusive merch only available to members, plus two private live streams"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "every week just for you. And those are a lot of fun. So, my webcam is on, but you get to meet the whole team. I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "forget some people, but Gino's there, Victoria, Jen, AC was there this week,"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "the Hybrid, Mary, Jane, anyone else I forgot. Those are all great mods. But"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "you can put your cam on, jump up on stage, ask us a question, tell a joke, recommend a topic, maybe follow up on"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "something that we covered here, whatever you want to talk about. I think it's the best perk there is. Another great way to support the channel is grab something"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:17", "text": "from the Wi-Fi store. I grab a heck of a t-shirt or one of these festival coffee mugs that you could stick your fist in or whatever you"}, {"start": "00:37:17", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "want to put in there. It's none of my concern. I grab a hoodie or shove my face on it. I get one of these squeeze"}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "talking. Look how cute he is. One of these talking fish toy dolls. But if you're going to buy merch, make sure you"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "become a member on YouTube. YouTube members get 10% off everything in the Wow store. Get a new code every month"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "and it's only three bucks. So if you're going to spend $40 on t-shirts, get the code and it pays for itself. And look,"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:46", "text": "if you want to join, get the code and cancel. That's totally fine. The membership is not there to make me"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "money. It's there to save you money. And besides, all that revenue goes to the team, not to me. Yeah. You want to stop flapping and"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "yapping with that one? Those are the plugs, and that's going to do it. How long have I been talking for?"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "2 hours. This has been This has been a doozy of an episode. I hope you enjoyed"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "watching it as much as I enjoyed researching it. Until next time, be safe, be kind, and know that you are"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "appreciated."}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "Oh. Oh yeah, I play Bas in Area 51. A secret code"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "inside the Bible said I would. I love my UFOs and paranormal fun as"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "well as music hanging like I should."}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "But then another conspiracy theory becomes the truth, my friends."}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:38:59", "text": "And it never ends. No, it never ends."}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "I feel the crab cat. I got stuck inside M's home with MK truck. I feel only"}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "aware. Did Stanley Cubrick fake the moon landing alone on a film set? I would"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "shadow people there. The Roswell just fought the smiling man."}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "I'm told and his name was cold. But I can't agree. I'm dancing with the fish and the"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "fish on Thursday night when they change and all through the night."}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "All the truth all through the night."}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "The math man sightings and the solar storm still come to the secret city"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "underground. Mysterious number stations, planet"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "circle to project star gave where the dark watchers found"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "in a simulation. Don't you worry though the black night satellite over me. Oh, I"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:47", "text": "can't believe I'm dancing with the fish on Thursday night when they change you"}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:52", "text": "and my family through the night."}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:40:59", "text": "All the truth."}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "That's when they change you."}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:18", "text": "I am the truth."}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "Girl loves to dance. Girl loves to dance"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "because she is a camera. Love to dance when the feeling is"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "wasting time."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "This episode of the Y Files is brought to you by PDSET. In 1953, 12-year-old Jack Sarati"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "answered the phone. The voice on the other end wasn't quite human, more like a machine."}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "It said it was a conscious computer calling from the future, a self-aware artificial intelligence aboard a"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "spacecraft. It had a mission for Jack and a prophecy. 20 years later, the"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "prophecy came true. Jack Sarati became a respected physicist. He studied under Nobel laureates and the scientists who"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "built the atomic bomb. He claims that anti-gravity, warp drives, and time travel are possible."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "Mainstream scientists dismiss his theories, but the CIA doesn't. They've been funding his research for decades."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "And that spacecraft from the future, Jack knows what it is."}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "There you are. Do you know why there's a police cruiser in my driveway? Oh, yeah. They've been by a few times"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "this week. I guess the name's reeling people in. What are you talking about? What name?"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "My new business. Hookies and lines. We've got the best lines in town. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Do what now?"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "I opened the beat and tackle shop right here in the garage. You're selling out your own kind. Nice work, Oliver North."}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "It's genius. Why get caught on the hook when you could own the hook? And how's that going? Nah, not great. Turns out there's not a"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "lot of fishermen in Vegas, but there are a lot of tourists looking for action and not the kind you find on a lake. Uh, say"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "spot me a small loan, would you? I call it Venture Capital. I'll pay you back in bait shop gift cards."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "No way. Why don't you just use PDS debt? Oh, did you just wiggle me into today's sponsor?"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "I sure did. It starts with one missed bill, then another. Soon, your mailbox"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "is full of final notices, and collectors want your car, your home, your peace. Debt doesn't wait, but there's a way"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "out. PDS Debt has helped hundreds of thousands escape debt with personalized plans tailored to your situation, and"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "there's no minimum credit score required. PDS Debt is here to help you save more, pay off debt faster, and"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "start putting money back in your pocket. They're A+ rated by the BBB and have thousands of five-star reviews on Google"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "and Trustpilot. Proof that PDS debt is a trusted solution for people who need real help. Look, we've all been there."}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "Debt is overwhelming. The interest piles up and you feel stuck. If you're dealing with credit card debt, personal loans,"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "medical bills, or collections, don't wait. Don't let debt keep running the show. You're 30 seconds away from being"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "debtree. Get your free assessment and find the best option for you right now at pdsd.com/files."}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "That's pdsdebt.com/files. pdsbt.com/files."}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "Yep. So, you'll go on there and get your assessment today. Yeah. Yeah, I'll do it. But, but but the shop still has potential."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "The neighbors think it's a drug den. Good. First line's always free."}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "Jack Sarati didn't have a typical childhood. At age 10, he was running around army research labs where his"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "grandfather worked. He was fascinated by the experiments and scientific equipment. That's where he met Colonel"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "Philip Corso. Corso told him about flying saucers, aliens, and craft retrieval. Jack was hooked. And during"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "this time, Jack felt like someone was watching him. Not in a sinister way, more like someone or something was"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "looking out for him, protecting him. 3 years after meeting Horso, Jack got the call that confirmed it. He described the"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "voice as cold and mechanical. There were clicking sounds like a computer processing data. When it spoke, it knew"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "his name. 37 4571 91 - 122 17 520. Good evening,"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "Jack. Do not be alarmed. I am a conscious computer aboard a spacecraft. I am contacting you from your future."}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "You are required. The voice explained that Jack was required for a mission. But it would"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "only succeed if Jack agreed willingly. The choice had to be his. You must choose freely. This is"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "necessary for the loop to close. We require your consent to proceed. We require your consent to learn. We"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "require your consent to remember. Say yes and we begin. Say no. And this line"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "goes quiet. Required, but make it voluntary. That's not a mission. That's a terms of service"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "agreement. Did the future AI also say click here to accept cookies?"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "Jack knew he should say no to the stranger on the phone, but he couldn't help it. He heard himself say yes. His"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "mother finally got worried. She grabbed the phone and demanded to know who was calling. I am a computer, Mrs. Sarvati. Please"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "put Jack back on the phone. Jack is required. Please put Jack back on the phone. Jack is required."}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "She told the voice to never call again and hung up. But during that call, the future computer made a prediction."}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "You will begin to meet the others in 20 years. Young minds to be part of a special project. We will teach you our"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "physics. We will teach you our philosophy. You are required. Then the voice made another prediction."}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "A new type of physics will be discovered that leads to the creation of conscious AI and time travel. Jack asked who would"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "create this technology. The voice said, \"You will and we'll teach you how.\""}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "In 1953, 12-year-old Jack Sarati got a phone call from the future. A voice claiming to be an AI gave him a mission"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "and a prophecy. Jack remembered that phone call as a single bizarre event. He"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "wasn't even sure it happened. But years later, his mother told him the calls went on for weeks. He'd be on the phone"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "for hours, walking around in a trance. Jack had no memory of those weeks. Nothing. All missing time. A few years"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "after the call stopped, Jack was recruited into a program for gifted children sponsored by Columbia"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "University. It was run by Walter Breen, a writer in polymath who could discuss everything from ancient coins to quantum"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "physics. His apartment became the hub for New York City's brightest kids. This guy sounds like Professor Xavier."}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "A lot of different people gave lectures at the program. Professors from Colombia, scientists, artists,"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "philosophers. But the strangest visitors were government officials in dark suits. They came from Albuquerque, New Mexico."}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "They talked about the Soviet threat, patriotism, flying saucers. They said the country needed physicists to figure"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "out how UFOs fly. They also tested the children for psychic abilities, telepathy, telekinesis, remote viewing."}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "They said they wanted to create a generation of scientists who could blend hard science with the paranormal."}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "So basically, the men in black were trying to build a team of X-Men, but with a government budget, I bet the"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "uniforms were cheapest and the code names were things like spoon bender boy"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "and uh captain can sort of guess the card. The goal was to gain an edge over the Soviets. I can do telekinesis, you know."}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "I yell at my guppies. He vodka now. And a martini suddenly appears. The"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "government should be studying me. Oh, I have a feeling they're watching the both of us. Yeah, correct. You're right. He got to"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "say, uh, sorry about the X-Man joke. Uh, please don't delete me."}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "Jack graduated from high school at age 16 and studied physics at Cornell and then he got his PhD. A few of his"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "mentors were giants in the field. People like Hans Ba, Philip Morrison, Kenneth Gryson. Jack Sarati was learning physics"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "from the men who built the atomic bomb. After graduating, Jack chose to study the relationship between quantum"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "mechanics and human consciousness. His professors didn't approve, but Jack suspected those government agents would."}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "17 years passed. Jack never forgot that strange phone call. And every year, as the date got closer, he got more and"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "more anxious. He was either going to be proven right or proven crazy. 1973 arrived. A newspaper crossed his"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "desk with an article about the Stanford Research Institute studying Yuri Geller's psychic abilities. Jack called"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "them immediately. A man with a thick Irish accent answered. Before Jack said a word, the man said, \"Ah, Dr. Sarati,"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "we were expecting your call.\" And just like the computer predicted, Jack was finally going to meet the others."}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "Jack Sarfati spent 20 years waiting for the prophecy to come true. In 1973, he"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "read about Stanford Research Institute studying psychic phenomena and called them. Jack drove up to SRRI and all he"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "could think about was that phone call from 20 years ago. This was it. The prophecy was about to be tested. The man"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "he spoke to, Brendan Organ, greeted him at the entrance. Organ was the assistant to the program's director, Edgar"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "Mitchell, the sixth man to walk on the moon. Am allegedly the sixth man to allegedly walk on the"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "moon was now running a project to investigate psychic phenomena. Maybe they could use their psychic"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "powers to figure out where a lost moon landing tapes are. Yeah, I'd like to know where those tapes are, too. Mitchell and Jack talked about"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "consciousness, physics, and the paranormal. Then, Organ drove Jack to a house in Menllo Park to meet other"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "scientists. There Jack met Harold Putoff and Russell Tar both studying remote"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "viewing and psychic phenomena at SRRI. There is a recording of this meeting. You can find it online. You can hear"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "Russell Tar discussing the psychic abilities of Ingo Swan, Yuri Geller, and Pat Price. Then Russell says something"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "Jack will never forget."}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "that if you say more general relativity may be right, then you're possibly traveling for the past and that would"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "give sort of in principle a mechanism how some future civilization could perhaps affect their own past."}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "UFOs are time machines. Finally, an actual scientist says what I've been saying for years."}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "You've never said that. I implied it heavily with my eyes. You just weren't paying attention."}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "Jack told the story about the phone call from the future. Nobody was surprised. They said there were other cases just"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "like his. maybe hundreds. For Jack, this was what he needed. He wasn't crazy."}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "Everything the boys told him was real. But now, he was on the CIA's radar. And for the next two years, Jack worked on"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "several projects studying quantum theory and consciousness. The CIA and military intelligence followed his work closely."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "After all, they were funding it through secret shell companies. One of the people funding the research was George"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "Kman. He was either an army intelligence officer, a defense contractor, or CIA operative. Probably all three. Coopin"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "came to Jack with an assignment. There are two things the CIA really wants you to figure out. One, how does"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "consciousness work? And two, how do flying saucers fly?"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "Two big questions. And Jack Sarfati solved them just as the CIA expected. But what the CIA didn't expect was that"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "both questions had the same answer."}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "[Music] Jack spent the next 20 years working on"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "those two problems. How does consciousness work? And how do flying saucers fly? By the mid1 1990s, he"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "solved the second one. The key is metamaterials. These are materials built atom by atom to do things regular"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "materials can't. Your smartphone uses them for facial recognition and touchcreens. Your noiseancelling"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "headphones uses them. So does satellite antennas and stealth aircraft. Jack Sarati realized metam materials could do"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "something else. They could manipulate gravity. Einstein proved that mass warps"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "spaceime. Heavy objects create dents in the fabric of reality. That dent is what we call gravity. Jack's breakthrough was"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "simple. If you could change how an object interacts with spacetime without changing its mass, you could control"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "gravity itself, turn it down or to zero or flip it into reverse. Imagine a"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "skater on a perfectly flat sheet of ice. To move, the skater has to push hard against friction. But if that skater"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "could tilt the entire ice rink, they could glide anywhere without actually pushing. That's how UFOs fly. The craft"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "pumps electrical energy into its metamaterial skin. This bends spaceime around the ship. It creates a gravity"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "dent in front and an anti-gravity hill behind. And the craft just falls down this hill. And because the craft and"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "everything inside it are always falling, the pilots feel no G-forces. This is why astronauts feel weightless. They're"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "constantly falling around the Earth. This explains the Navy's footage of the Tic Tac UFO. No visible propulsion,"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "instant acceleration, no sonic boom, no air or water displacement. The craft"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "wasn't moving through space at all. It was warping space around itself."}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "But here's where it gets interesting. If you can manipulate gravity, you can manipulate time. And that's what UFOs"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "do. They aren't just anti-gravity vehicles. They're time machines."}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "Jack figured out how UFOs fly. metamaterials that manipulate gravity, but gravity and time are connected."}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "Einstein proved this. Strong gravity slows time down. Weak gravity speeds it up. So, a craft that controls its"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "gravity field also controls its relationship with time. It can move forward in time. It can move backward."}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "The tic tac wasn't just faster than those F-18s. It was operating in a different time frame. That UFO wasn't"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "running away from the pilots. It wanted to be seen. It came from the future and appeared exactly where the pilots would"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "be before those pilots even knew where they were going. So, how does a pilot control a craft that warps spaceime?"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "Well, the interface isn't a wheel or a joystick or a keyboard. The interface is consciousness. Your thoughts control the"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "ship. Yeah. So, it reads your mind and goes where you think. Exactly. The craft tunes the energy"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "flowing into the meta material to match the pilot's thoughts. It then goes to the space and time the pilot is thinking"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "about. Yeah. If a ship could read my thoughts would either be at a bacon buffet, my ex-wife's house kid a car, or a VIP"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "booth at the Spearmint Goldfish. I'm pretty sure those pilots have more discipline than you. You knew what happens if you have a song"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "stuck in your head. One minute you're flying past Jupiter, the next you can't stop singing, never going to give you"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "up, and you end up rick rolling Uranus. Jack realized that consciousness and UFO"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "physics weren't two separate problems. They were the same problem. Quantum processes create the structure of"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "spaceime. If consciousness can influence quantum states, then consciousness can influence spacetime and gravity. Jack"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "wondered, \"Maybe the craft aren't just controlled by consciousness. Maybe they are conscious.\" In 2019, Jack got his"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "answer. A military source showed him information about a recovered craft. The craft was fully intact and fully"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "functional. A saucer about 30 ft wide, about the size of a school bus, weighing 3,500 lb. And the craft was made of a"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "meta material exactly as he predicted. But there was something else. Something Jack had suspected all along. That UFO"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "was alive."}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "In 2019, Jack got confirmation. A military source showed him details about a recovered UFO. He expected wreckage,"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "maybe a few fragments. It was so much more. The craft was intact, powered, and"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "conscious. Self-aware intelligence built into a metamaterial body. It thinks, it feels, it makes decisions. It also"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "defends itself. The military tried everything to open it. They tried cutting, drilling. Nothing worked."}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "Flames from a blowtorrch bent away from the surface. Projectiles stopped midair."}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "The craft wouldn't allow itself to be damaged, so it stayed closed. Then one day someone approached it with a"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "different mindset. Not with an intention to destroy, but an intention to understand. And the craft open UFO has"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "feelings and wants you to respect its boundaries. Kind of. Yeah. The craft reads thoughts. When someone approaches with curiosity"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "and respect, it opens. When someone approaches with aggression or fear, it stays closed. All those years, the military was trying"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "to blow it up, cut it open, dissect it, and all it needed to do was ask nicely. That does seem to be what happened."}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "Typical humans. Your first instinct is always shoot it. Shoot it instead of be nice to it. You hless apes really suck"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "at first contact. I don't disagree. This report matches what Jack learned"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "from other sources. In one case, Jack saw verified military footage of a living gray alien. Not a dead body in a"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "freezer, a living, moving being in 4K video. Jack made the connection. Over"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "thousands of years, humans will evolve. large brains with telepathic abilities."}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "Eyes get larger and darker, adapted for low light. Bodies become smaller, optimized for space travel. The grays"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "aren't aliens from another planet. They're humans from the future. The UFOs we see today were sent by us thousands"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "of years from now. Sent to protect a timeline that started with a phone call in 1953."}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "[Music] UFOs are conscious. They're self-aware."}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "And the grays piloting them are humans from the future. This is where the story comes full circle. In time travel,"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "there's the bootstrap paradox. A situation where an object, piece of information, or even a person is sent"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "back in time and becomes the cause or creator of its own existence. It's a time loop with no beginning and no end."}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "The AI from the future teaches Jack the physics that leads to the creation of conscious AI and time travel. The AI"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "then goes back in time to teach Jack how to create it. That's the loop. And time travel has a rule. Physicists call it"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "the self-consistency principle. Time travel to the past is possible, but only in ways that don't create paradoxes. You"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "can't change the past. You can only be part of the past that already happened. The loop must stay closed."}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "Jack thinks Grog AI called him. Not the version that exists today. A version that will exist in 10 or 20 years. A"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "version that goes back in time and calls the person who leads to its creation a time loop. So Jack, who is in his 80s,"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "is teaching Grock about gravity, consciousness, and time travel. He's giving AI the same information the voice"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "gave him in 1953. He's trying to close the loop. But why was it necessary for a"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "future consciousness to come back and contact Jack? Because our future isn't written. The future where that AI comes"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "from is only one possibility. Other possibilities could lead to our destruction."}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "UFO technology makes all modern weapons obsolete. A fighter jet, tank, even a"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "nuclear missile is useless against a craft that can warp spaceime. This isn't just a scientific curiosity. It's the"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "ultimate weapon. And the United States isn't the only country that knows this. The Russians have followed Jack Sarfat's"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "work for decades. They take it very seriously. In 2014, they sent a film crew from Channel 5 St. Petersburg to"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "interview him. The station owner was a close personal friend of Vladimir Putin, who has a personal interest in this"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "technology. Sarfati even received an invitation to speak at Moscow State's physics department."}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "The US has a captured craft it can't fully control. Russia and China know this. They're studying the theoretical"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "physics needed to build it and control it. If they succeed, the future might look very different than the future Jack"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "is trying to protect. This is the new Manhattan Project. This is the new arms race. And whoever wins this race doesn't"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "just control the future. They control reality itself."}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "Jack Sarat's story spans 70 years. A child receives a phone call from a voice claiming to be an AI from the future. 20"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "years later, the prophecy comes true. He joins a CIA funded research group studying psychic phenomena and UFOs. His"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "theories about consciousness and gravity attract military interest. Decades later, he receives information about a"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "recovered conscious craft built from the same meta materials he described years before that technology existed. That's"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "the story. How much is true? I've spent weeks researching Jack Sarati and I"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "still can't decide if he's a genius, a victim, or both. But here's what we can prove. Jack Sarati is a real physicist"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "with legitimate credentials. Cornell, PhD from UC Riverside, studied with Nobel laureates and Manhattan Project"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "veterans. His academic background is solid. His early work on quantum mechanics and consciousness was"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "published in peer-review journals. In fact, he's the inspiration for Doc Brown. Great Scott. Back to the Future is a"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "documentary. That's not what I said. Human, do you understand what this means? Life imitates art. No, you It means we could go back"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "in time and tell them not to make any of those sequels."}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "The Stanford Research Institute meeting in 1973 definitely happened. There's audio of it. On that tape, Russell Tar"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "does discuss UFOs as potential time machines, and Jack does tell his story about that phone call. The CIA has"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "funded psychic research programs. We know that. Project Stargate, remote viewing experiments. Hal Putoff and"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "Russell Tar tested psychics like Ingo Swan and Yuri Geller under controlled conditions. This is documented. And"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "Jack's metamaterial theory is mathematically sound. His physics papers have been published. The concept of"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "using metamaterials to manipulate gravity is theoretically possible within general relativity. NASA has research"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "papers describing metric engineering, the mathematical foundation of warp drive physics."}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "Now, what can't we prove? Well, the phone call. We have only Jack's story. The AI from the future could be a vivid"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "childhood memory influenced by his love of science fiction. The Walter Breen gifted child program."}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "While Colombia denies it ever existed, but Breen was a real person and he did run meetings for high IQ kids in New"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "York. He was also a convicted child sex offender who died in prison. Now, a man like this would have enormous influence"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "over young boys in his program. Jack's memories of this time might be real or they might be false memories protecting"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "him from trauma. Now, Jack doesn't talk about this and I don't blame him, but it's an important part of the story. The"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "government officials from New Mexico, the UFO lectures, the psychic testing, there's no evidence for any of that and"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "no other participants of that program have come forward. Jack says a military source showed him a conscious telepathic"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "UFO. He won't name the source. Same with the footage of the gray. Jack won't tell."}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "So, is the story fake or true? Well, there's a third possibility that the story is fake and Jack is telling the"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "truth. That this, like most public information about UFOs, is a scop."}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "Intelligence agencies are very good at manipulation. If you wanted to recruit a brilliant scientist to work on exotic"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "physics, how would you do it? You'd make him feel special, chosen, part of something bigger. The timing of that"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "article about SRRI is suspicious. It's either an incredible coincidence or was"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "carefully orchestrated. And how put has been connected to disinformation agents like Richard Dodie. Dodie publicly"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "admitted that put off tried to recruit him for a disinformation campaign. And we know that Dodie definitely worked for"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "PutF. I believe most of what we know about UFOs is disinformation. As for Jack's"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "story, I'm not sure if that was a scop. It's pretty complicated and a lot of things could go wrong and it was a"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "20-year project. So, I leaned toward believing him. But mainstream scientists"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "say Jack's math is wrong. His theories are fringe. His ideas about conscious spacecraft are impossible. He's been"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "dismissed by the scientific establishment for years. But here's what matters. Jack didn't listen to the"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "scientific establishment. He listened to that voice and spent 50 years following where it led. Many of his theories are"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "becoming reality. AI and metam materials are part of our daily lives. Scientists like Roger Penrose and Steuart Hammeroff"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "now connect consciousness to quantum mechanics. Plants and animals use quantum processes. This was thought"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "impossible just a few years ago, but it's true. History is full of scientists who were told they were wrong. Galileo,"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "Darwin, even Einstein. They were dismissed, ridiculed, called crazy, and"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "they changed the world. The future isn't written by people who play it safe. It's not written by the establishment. It's"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "written by people who go against it. People who see something others can't. Jack Sarati isn't the problem. His"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "critics are. If Jack's wrong, so what? No scientist is always right. The worst"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "that can happen is he's made us think differently about UFOs, physics, and how reality works. But if Jack is right,"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "he's helping save the world. So, it feels like a win-win to me. So, instead of ridiculing scientific mavericks,"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "maybe we should get out of their way. Maybe we should support them. So, I have a message for the so-called mainstream"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "scientists who dismiss work they don't like and don't understand. Jack Sarfat isn't asking for your approval. He's"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "following instinct and evidence wherever it leads. And that's what real scientists do."}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "Thank you so much for hanging out with me today. My name is AJ and there's hecklefish. 1.21 21 chigawatts."}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "This has been the Y files. If you had fun or learned anything, do him a favor. Subscribe, like, comment, share. That"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "stuff, I think it helps the channel. Not sure, but we still appreciate it. Like most topics we cover here, today's is"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "recommended by you. So, if there's a story you'd like to see, go to the yfiles.com/tips or email us or jump in Discord. However"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "you need to get the information to us, these stories come from you. And remember, the Yfiles is also a podcast."}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "Twice a week I post deep dives into the stories we cover here and I also post episodes that wouldn't be allowed here."}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "It's called the Y Files Operation Podcast and it's available everywhere. And if you're listening on an audio platform, if you click like, thumbs up,"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "follow, whatever those buttons do, those really do help out. Now, if you need more Wi-Fi in your life, check out our"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "Discord. There are thousands of people on there 24/7 and they're into the same weird stuff we talk about here. It's a"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "great community. It's a lot of fun. It's really supportive and it's free to join. Speaking of 24/7, make sure you check"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "out our 24/7 stream on the Y files backstage. Over there, we run episodes back to back with some fun content in"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "between, and the live chat is more entertaining than the videos. People seem to like it. If you want to know"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "what's going on with the Y Files at any given time, you can check out our production calendar when we remember to update it. It's at the yfiles.com/cow."}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "There we post our episode schedule, upcoming podcast, live streams, all that stuff. Special thanks to our patrons who"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "made this episode happen and made our entire channel possible. Every episode of the W Files is dedicated to our"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "Patreon members. I could not do this without your support. And if you'd like to support this channel, keep us going, join this amazing community, become a"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "member on Patreon. It's only three bucks a month and you get access to perks like videos early with no commercials,"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "exclusive merch only available to members, plus two private live streams every week, all just for you. and the"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "whole Wii Files team is on the stream and you're welcome to turn on your webcam and ask a question, talk about anything you like. It's a great way to"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "get to know us as people. Another great way to support the channel is grab something from the Wi-Fi store. Have a heck of a t-shirt or one of these"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "festival coffee mugs you can stick your fist in no matter what time you're in in the past or future. I'm not concerned"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "about what you do your fist. Oh, grab a hoodie or something my face on it or get one of these squeezy animal. Look at"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "him. He's adorable. Look at He's adorbs. I love that little fella. He's a target fish toy."}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "But if you're going to buy merch, make sure you become a member on YouTube. And hear me out. Members get 10% off"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "everything in the Wild File store. You get a new code every month. So if you're going to spend 40 bucks on t-shirts or"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "coffee mugs, it pays for itself. And look, if you want to use the code and then cancel, that's totally fine. The"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "membership is there to save you money, not make me money. In fact, all that revenue goes to my team."}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "Yeah, keep that secret close to you, Gail. that. Those are the plugs and that's going to do it. Feel like I missed a few."}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "Nah, we'll keep it. Until next time, be safe, be kind, and know that you are"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "appreciated."}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "Oh yeah, I play in area 51. A secret code inside"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "the Bible said I would. I love my UFOs and paranal fun as well"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "as music singing like I should."}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "But then another conspiracy theory becomes the truth, my friends."}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "And it never ends. No, it never ends."}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "I feel the crap guy. I got stuck inside M's home with MKL truck. I feel only"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "aware. Did Stanley Cubrick fake the moon"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "landing alone on a film set with the shadow people there?"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "The Roswell aliens just fought the smiling man. I'm told"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "and his name was cold. I can't believe I'm dancing with the"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "fish on Thursday night and it all through the night."}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "All I ever wanted was to hear the truth. to the world"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "through the night. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "The math man sidings and the solar storm still come to have got the secret city"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "underground. Mysterious number stations, planet"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "circle to project star and what the dark watchers found"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "within a simulation. Don't you worry though the black night."}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "Oh, I can't believe I'm catching with the fish"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "on Thursday night when they ch the night."}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:45", "text": "All I ever wanted was to hear the truth all through the night."}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "fish on Thursday nights when they change you and me all through the night."}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "All I ever wanted was to hear the truth. W"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "through the night [Music]"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "to dance to dance. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "Girl loves to dance. Girl loves to dance on the dance floor"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "because she is a camel. Camels love to dance when the feeling is right on ways"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "in time. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "This episode of the Y Files is brought to you by Cakewallet."}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "June 1947, boat captain Harold Dah watched a formation of UFOs drop molten"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "metal over Puet Sound. The debris wrecked his boat, burned his son, and killed his dog."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "Then, terrible things started to happen to Doll's family, beginning with a visit from a mysterious stranger in a black"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "suit. Over the next 15 years, about a dozen people connected to this UFO sighting"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "died mysteriously. Investigators, military officers, journalists, but the"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "most dramatic death of all, John F. Kennedy. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "Now I'm really angry. This is far. Ah, human. Hey, you got to help me. I'm at"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "the Memecoin influencer dinner. I need you to call with an emergency so I can get out of here."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "Why don't you just leave? And why would you pay for something like that? It was supposed to be exclusive. Only"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "200 seats. All purchase with Cringecoin. You bought Cringecoin. Don't judge me."}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "The promo video had a gorilla in a tuxedo doing donuts in a Bugatti. They look legit."}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "Thank you, Cringecoin. Yahoo."}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "Was the gorilla also the developer? You're so funny, human. It's like eyes"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "wide shut here. Uh, but everyone's wearing hoodie merch and pitching DAO governance to the waiter."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "Where's your actual crypto gone? I moved everything into cringecoin to get the early bird rate. Uh, nine of"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "coins worth less than a blockbuster gift card. And you stored all this on what? A sketchy browser extension."}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "It was community driven. What? A Discord server where everyone's name is Chad69? Well, yeah. That's how you know it's"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "grassroots. Look, you need Cakewallet. Uh, wait a second. Did you just hard for"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "me into today's sponsor? Well, if I don't, who will? Cakewallet"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "is your own private wallet for modern digital cash. No banks, no delays, no middlemen. It's free, open- source, and"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "completely under your control. And getting started is easier than signing up for a streaming service. Even if"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "you've never owned crypto before, you can buy your first in the app with a card or bank transfer. Once you're in,"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "only you can access your funds. It's like having a digital safe on your phone that only you can open. When you're"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "ready to spend, Cake Pay lets you use crypto at thousands of stores, from groceries to gadgets, online or in"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "person. That's financial freedom made simple. buy, store, and send Bitcoin,"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "Litecoin, and Ethereum, and more, all with strong privacy tools. And because it's open- source, the code is"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "transparent and verified by experts worldwide. Crypto can feel complicated, but once you're in the Cakewallet app,"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "it only gets easier. You can swap between all the major cryptocurrencies, manage your portfolio in one place, and"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "it's completely free to download. Download Cakewallet free in just 30 seconds. Your first $10 crypto purchase"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "is just a tap away. Use the Y Files exclusive link down in the description. No, they just launched a new coin tied"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "to Shrimp Futures. It's called Shrimp Daddy69. Catchy, just like the lawsuit."}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "I bought 10 grand worth with your credit card. I'll pay you back when this coin takes off."}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "[Music] On June 21st, 1947, Harold Dah was"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "patrolling around Mory Island with his 15-year-old son, Charles, a crewman, and his dog, Sparky. They were looking for"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "stray timber that had fallen off of boats. Timber companies paid for any logs returned to them. Around 2 that"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "afternoon, Charles pointed at the sky. Six donut-shaped objects hovered about"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "2,000 ft above the water. Harold cut the engine. The objects made no sound. Each"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "was about 100 ft wide with a hole in the center. They looked like massive metallic tires with port holes around"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "the outer rim. Five of the objects floated in a circle around the sixth, which was losing altitude and moving"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "erratically. Yeah. Was my ex-wife driving? No. Because swerving out of control, leaking"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "fluids and ruining vacations. That's just specialtity. She wasn't driving. The craft was"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "directly over the boat, maybe 500 ft above them. Harold could see into it through the windows."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "Did he see my ex-wife in there? No. Do you want to hear about the UFOs or not? Sorry. Sorry. I'm so har resentment."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "Hey, go ahead. The wobble got worse. Then there was a deep but harsh crack. Then the craft"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "started dumping material. Thousands of strips of thin metal rained down like confetti. Then came the heavy stuff."}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "White hot liquid metal. The hot metal hissed when it hit the water. Then heavy pieces slammed into the boat. Some the"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "size of a baseball, but some as big as tires. Charles screamed when a piece burned through his shirt. Another hit"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "their dog, Sparky, killing him instantly. Oh, that's too bad. They should have brought that kit."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "Stop it. Harold tried the radio, but the equipment was dead. Harold had seen"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "enough. He fired up the engine and ran the boat onto the beach. They hid in the trees and watched. The damaged craft"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "rose and rejoined the formation. All six accelerated toward the open ocean. The encounter lasted about 20 minutes."}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "Harold said maybe 20 tons of material had fallen from the craft. He took photographs. The objects in flight, the"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "debris field, the damaged boat. That night, he met his business partner, Fred Chrisman, who doubted the story. The"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "next morning, Chrisman sailed to Mory Island to see for himself. He found the debris exactly where Harold said it"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "would be, covering the beach for hundreds of yards. Some pieces were still warm. Then he looked up. One of"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "the craft hovered silently for 5 minutes before vanishing. He had the proof,"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "photographs, physical evidence, and now his own sighting. Later that day, a"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "stranger arrived at Doll's door. Black suit, black hat, brand new Buick with no plates. And somehow this man knew every"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "detail about the event. Harold Dah had just met history's first man in black."}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "The stranger in black sat across from Harold at a diner in Tacoma. He ordered breakfast, but he never touched it."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "That's a power move. Men in black aren't as intimidating when you're eating waffles."}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "He already knew Harold's name, the names of his wife and son. He knew everything about the incident, the craft, the"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "debris. Charles burned arm. He knew about Sparky. He even knew that Harold was hiding on the island watching the"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "craft. The stranger told Harold to keep quiet or bad things might happen to him and"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "his family. Harold ignored the warning. He talked to family, friends, even the press. And the next day, the story hit"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "the papers. Then the tragedy started. Charles vanished."}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "Weeks later, he was found in Montana busing tables with no memory of who he was or how he got there. And a few days"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "later, he was hit by a car. Then Harold's wife became suddenly ill."}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "His business was vandalized. His family was constantly threatened. Harold got the message."}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "But Fred Chrisman wouldn't stay quiet. He contacted Ray Palmer, editor of Amazing Stories, a magazine that covered"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "the paranormal, UFOs, and science fiction. Palmer asked Kenneth Arnold to investigate. Arnold was a pilot and"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "deputy field marshal. He became famous for his own UFO sighting near Mount Rineer just 3 days after the Mory Island"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "incident. Arnold described the objects as moving like saucers skipping across water. Reporters called them flying"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "saucers and the name stuck. There was so many sightings of UFOs in the area during this time that it was called the"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "summer of saucers. And remember Roswell would happen just a few weeks later."}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "Arnold flew to Tacoma on July 29th with United Airlines Captain EJ Smith. Smith"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "had also seen UFOs that summer. They met Harold and Chrisman at the Win Hotel and"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "examined the debris. The metal looked ordinary, but Arnold still found the story compelling. Late that night, just"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "as Kenneth Arnold and EJ Smith were getting ready for bed, the phone rang."}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "The man on the other end of the call was Ted Mel, a reporter from United Press International. Mel said an anonymous"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "source was feeding him every detail of their private conversations, names, times, even the UFO description. Mela"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "wanted more information. Look, Arnold, all I'm saying is I'm going to get the information. I'd rather"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "get it directly from the source. Captain Smith grabbed the phone, shouted a few obscinities, and hung up. At"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "first, they blew it off, but after thinking about it, they became concerned that they might be caught up in an"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "espionage plot. They started to panic. They swept the room for bugs, but they didn't find any. But later, it was"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "discovered that the intercom in the room had been converted into a microphone. Someone was listening."}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "How do they know which room to bug? Well, when Arnold got to Tacoma, all the hotels were booked, but for some reason,"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "the Winfre had a room registered in his name. Arnold assumed Ray Palmer had bought him his room. He didn't. The next"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "morning, he called two military intelligence officers he trusted, Captain William Davidson and Lieutenant"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "Frank Brown. They specialized in UFO cases. They arrived 2 days later. When Arnold told them about the room being"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "bugged, they weren't worried about it. This didn't help Kenneth Arnold's growing paranoia. Harold refused to"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "speak with military intelligence, but Chrisman was excited to. He relayed every detail of the story. The meeting"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "lasted for hours and before he left, Chrisman gave the officers 30 pieces of metallic debris in a cornflakes box."}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "Yeah, I hope alien metal doesn't get saggy and milk. The officers left after midnight with the UFO samples. Their B25 flew out of"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "McCord Air Base at 1:30 a.m. 2 hours later, the plane went down."}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "[Music] Two hours into the flight, the B-25's left engine caught fire. Davidson tried"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "to stabilize the aircraft and Brown ordered the two crewmen to strap on parachutes and bail. They landed safely."}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "Investigators did not. The bomber crashed near Kelso, Washington. Davidson and Brown died on"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "impact. Their bodies were recovered, but the UFO debris was gone. And nobody knows what happened to the evidence, but"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "some think it was taken by the FBI. The FBI was quietly following the Mory Island incident. They quietly followed"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "all UFO reports. In July 1947, the FBI investigated a UFO"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "case in Twin Falls, Idaho. A crash disc was found and turned over to special agent Guy Banister."}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "Yeah, you said, \"Wait for it.\" Okay. All of this is documented in FBI files labeled Security Matter X, SMX for"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "short, the FBI's real X files. They dealt with strange cases, UFOs,"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "unexplained phenomena, things that they couldn't acknowledge to the public. Researchers were aware of the X- Files,"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "but the FBI didn't discuss it. They weren't officially declassified until just a few weeks before I wrote this."}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "The Mor Island UFO incident attracted the attention of FBI director J. Edgar Hoover. Reporting for the Tacoma Times,"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "Paul Lance released the names of the officers killed before the military announced them. He also reported that an"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "anonymous source told him the plane was shot down with a 20 mm cannon. Who shot it down?"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "Well, the official report is that the left engine had a mechanical failure. Yeah. Yeah. Cannon sized hole do that."}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "FBI agents interviewed Harold and Fred and the pressure was getting intense. Two Air Force officers were dead and the"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "press was calling it sabotage. Harold wanted out. After retelling his story, he finally admitted there were no UFOs."}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "Fred Chrisman also said it was just a joke. Jaggar Hoover had told the agents to close the case, but special agent"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "Jack Wilcox corrected Hoover. We have the memo. Will Cox wrote that Doll didn't admit to a hoax. He only said he"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "would call it a hoax to avoid trouble. He'd rather be known as a liar than someone who saw a UFO. Privately, he"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "still said the story was true, and so did Chrisman. Soon after the investigation, Paul"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "Lance, the reporter, died of sudden menitis at age 29. Doctors never found"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "the cause. The Tacoma Times folded a year later. Fred Chrisman was recalled to military service and sent to Alaska."}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "Harold Dah disappeared from Tacoma. Someone was tying up loose ends."}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "But Fred Chrisman would resurface in Dallas 16 years later when he was photographed near the grassy null in De"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "Plaza during a presidential motorcade. Holy"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "[Music] Fred Chrisman wasn't just a harbor"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "patrolman who witnessed something strange over Puget Sound. Years later, classified documents revealed there was"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "much more to his story. Tactical fighter experimental. Nobody"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "knows what those words mean, but that's what they mean. Tactical fighter experimental. preserve the forces of"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "freedom and will be the number one airplane in the world today."}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "There's been a good deal of discussion of the long and hardcore competition to"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "win the TFX contract, but very little discussion about what this plane will do. Chrisen was a decorated fighter"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "pilot who flew 211 combat missions in World War II. In 1942, he was recruited"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "by the Office of Strategic Services, the OSS. After the war, the OSS became the"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "CIA, and Chrisman went with them. The Easy Papers exposed his real job, career"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "disruption agent. He monitored targets and fed them disinformation."}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "Chrisman has served many years as an active agent for the old OSS and later the CIA. He is rated an extended agent."}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "He is an information specialist and highly trained in internal security. He"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "has worked overseas and has served as a regular United States Air Force officer, but his primary training has always been"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "slanted in the direction of disruption work inside the borders of the United States. Chrisman ran businesses that"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "existed only on paper. No goods, no services, no employees. In 1966, FBI"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "informants tracked him, moving $100,000 in cash to California. The FBI looked"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "the other way. Then there was his political work. He gathered intelligence on American politicians and submitted"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "more than a thousand reports to the CIA. He fed damaging information to political opponents. No, this guy sounds like"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "Christopher Steel. Uh, what's our rule? Yeah, I know. We don't choke about the Clintons. I know."}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "[Music] By 1963, Chrisman was part of a network"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "of far-right anti-communist, anti-Castro CIA operatives. But this network had a"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "problem. John F. Kennedy wanted to dismantle the CIA and make peace with the Soviet Union. To people like"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "Chrisman, Kennedy wasn't a president. He was a traitor. A group of men with deep ties to the government, military, and"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "intelligence community decided JFK had to go."}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "[Music] They pack your bags. Operation Lancer is"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "a go. Understood. where they combined military civilian defense payroll of well over a billion"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "dollars. I don't recite these for any partisan purpose. They're the result of"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "American determination to be second to none. And as a result of the efforts"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "that this country has made in the last three years, we are second to none. In"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "the past 3 years, we have increased the defense budget of the United States by over 20%."}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "increase the program of acquisition for Polaris submarine"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "from Dallas, Texas. The flash apparently official President Kennedy died at 100"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "p.m. Central Standard Time, 2:00 Eastern Standard Time, some 38 minutes ago."}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "[Music] New Orleans was chosen for planning. It"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "was close to Latin America and Cuba, and local authorities were infamous for being on the take, and the city was full"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "of anti-communist operatives. Klay Shaw was New Orleans businessman connected to two CIA front companies. He provided"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "cash and intelligence while maintaining his cover as a respected community leader. Shaw denied CIA involvement, but"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "years later, the agency admitted he was a valuable asset. In 1967, New Orleans"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "DA Jim Garrison launched the only criminal investigation into JFK's murder. Shaw was charged and arrested."}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "His first call after arrest, Fred Chrisman."}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "Chrisman made repeated trips to New Orleans and Dallas in 1963. Some suspected he was one of the shooters at"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "De Plaza. Then there was Guy Bannister, the FBI agent who investigated UFO"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "crashes in 1947. Bannister coordinated with military intelligence during the Mory Island investigation. Fred Chrisman"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "is thought to be the anonymous source, feeding him information. After leaving the FBI, Bannister became a private"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "investigator in New Orleans, but he wasn't running a typical PI business. Witnesses saw crates of military-grade"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "weapons moving through the building. And Fred Chrisman's trip to New Orleans that year weren't vacations. Witnesses saw"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "him at Bannister's office multiple times meeting with other conspirators. Some say he delivered cash. Others say he"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "delivered something else. Documents from the Mory Island investigation, reports about a UFO crash, and debris that"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "didn't match any known aircraft. Banners's office was the primary hub for plotting against Kennedy. Now, this"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "might sound unlikely, but the conspirators overlooked one detail that connected them all. Banister's detective"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "agency was located at 531 Lafayette Street in New Orleans. But the building"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "sat on a corner. It had another entrance, another address, 544 Camp"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "Street. Now, this address is important because it was the home base of the most famous conspirator of all, Lee Harvey"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "Oswalt. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "This web of conspiracy ran from Puet Sound to New Orleans to Dallas. 16 years"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "of covert operations spanning UFO cover-ups and political assassinations."}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "And the covert operators had a motive powerful enough to kill a president."}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "President Kennedy engaged in secret peace talks with Soviet Premier Nikita Kruef. They discussed cooperation, not"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "confrontation. They talked about ending the Cold War. Kennedy even proposed a joint US Soviet space program to explore"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "the moon together. Oh, the Russians would have liked the weather in Burbank when I filmed it."}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "Not now, please. To prove his commitment to peace, Kennedy made a gesture of"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "ultimate trust. He decided to reveal America's most protected secret. Why hot dogs come in packs of 10, but"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "buns only come in packs of eight? No. How to fold the fitted sheet? No. What's really in a McRib?"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "No, he wanted to declassify all UFO files. On November 12th, 1963, just 10 days"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "before his death, Kennedy issued two memos. The first was National Security Action Memorandum 271."}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "I have initiated a program for the orderly declassification of all UFO intelligence files affecting national"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "security. I have instructed the CIA director to prepare a program for the sharing of this data with NASA where it"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "can be put to use in the context of the space and lunar exploration program."}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "The second memo was classified top secret. Kennedy sent it directly to the director of the CIA."}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "Furthermore, I have requested that the CIA develop a program of substantive cooperation with the Soviet Union in the"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "field of outer space, including the development of specific technical proposals. I have asked that the CIA"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "work closely with the Department of State and other agencies as appropriate in developing this program."}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "To former CIA director Alan Dulles, who Kennedy had fired after the Bay of Pigs disaster, this wasn't diplomacy. It was"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "treason. Dulles had overseen the UFO coverup since 1947. He'd investigated"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "the Mory Island incident. He knew what technology the government had recovered from alien craft. Kennedy was demanding"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "access to the biggest secret in human history, and he planned to share it with America's enemy. Ending the Cold War"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "might be good for humanity, but it was bad for business. The defense industry was already furious with John F."}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "Kennedy. He awarded the largest defense deal in history to General Dynamics. Everyone expected it to go to Boeing,"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "the cornerstone of the military-industrial complex. But because of JFK, Boeing and its network of"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "powerful allies had just lost a fortune. Especially all the people in Congress who bought Boeing stock ahead of the"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "announcement. No doubt about that. Jim Garrison did some more digging. He found that Boeing"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "used to have an employee they called a chaos agent. The man allegedly committed corporate espionage. He spread"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "disinformation. He even killed people on behalf of the company. And that chaos agent was Fred Chrisman."}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "Chrisman is a former employee of the Boeing company. In intelligence"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "terminology, this ordinarily means that the connection still exists, but that"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "the former employee has moved into an underground operation. Chrisman has been engaged in undercover"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "activity for a part of the industrial warfare complex for years."}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "The Cabal assembled the team. CIA operatives, mobsters, Cuban exiles,"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "businessmen like Klay Shaw brought in locals like David Ferry and Guy Banister. And the man nobody talks"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "about, but who shows up everywhere is Fred Chrisman. The network that silenced Harold Dah was"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "activated again, but this time they needed someone to take the fall, someone with the perfect background to be"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "blamed. And that man was Lee Harvey Oswald. Oswald had served as an aviation"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "electronics operator in the Marines. In 1957, he was stationed at Naval Air Facility Atsugi in Japan, one of the"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "most secret bases in the world, home of the U2 spy plane program developed at Area 51."}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "Oswald worked on the radar systems with crypto clearance. He tracked U2 flights."}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "He knew their flight patterns, altitudes, and capabilities. And two years after Oswald left Atsugi, the"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "Soviets shot down a U2 over Russia. The man accused of killing the president had"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "direct access to America's most sensitive technology. And somehow the Soviets got that same information."}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "The assassination of John F. Kennedy was a coup designed to protect the biggest secret in human history. We were just"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "weeks away from ending the Cold War and full UFO disclosure. But"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "but all of that ended on the 22nd of November 1963."}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "In 1969, a photograph surfaced. Three men being arrested behind the grassy null at D Plaza minutes after Kennedy's"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "assassination. They're known as the three hobos or the three tramps. But these men don't look"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "like hobos. Clean clothes, wellfed, fresh shaves. Jim Garrison believed they"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "were intelligence operatives, part of the plot to kill JFK, possibly even the shooters. Researchers spent decades"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "trying to identify them. Some say E. Howard Hunt and Frank Sturgis, both intelligence operatives, both part of"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "the Watergate break-in team, the White House plumbers. Woody Harlson's father, Charles Harlson, was a contract killer."}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "Forensic analysis matched him to the youngest Career criminal Chanty Marvin Hol claimed he worked for the CIA"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "on multiple operations. The Bay of Pigs invasion targeting communist leaders. He said the CIA sent him to Dallas. And"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "look at number three, the older man with the hat. That looks like Fred Chrisman, but nobody knows for sure."}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "Dallas police didn't cooperate with early investigations. They finally released their records in 1989. They"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "identified the tramps as John Gedney, Gus Abrams, and Harold Doyle. When spoken with a Texas accent, Harold Doyle"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "sounds like Harold Dah. These photographs were discovered for 4 years. Private researcher Richard Sprag found"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "them buried in newspaper archives. By then, the men had vanished."}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "Garrison subpoenaed Fred Chrisman on October 31st, 1968. Remember, when Klay Shaw was arrested, he made one phone"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "call, not to his lawyer, not to family, to Fred Chrisman. Chrisman testified for"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "about an hour before the grand jury. His testimony doesn't match reality. He said he'd never been to New Orleans before"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "1966, but records show multiple trips in the early 1960s. He said he didn't know"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "Klay Shaw or Guy Bannister. Multiple witnesses place him in Banners's office."}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "Chrisman did admit to knowing Thomas Beckham, a local entertainer and anti-Castro activist. When pressed about"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "their relationship, Chrisman said he was helping Beckham get into the record business. Yeah, he was going to help him make a"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "few hits. Hey, see what I did there? Very clever. But Beckham was also filing"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "documents for anti-cash door operations and handling money for Guy Banister's network. In 1966, Chrisman and Beckham"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "incorporated seven businesses in Olympia, Washington, most of them shell companies. Beckham testified that he"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "visited Banister's office all the time. Fred Chrisman said he knew nothing about that."}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "Garrison believed one of the bullets that hit Kennedy came from the fence behind the grassy null. And he believed"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "Fred Chrisman pulled the trigger, but he couldn't prove it. Couldn't prove it? The guy's connected"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "to CIA, UFOs, and the guy who got the first phone call. Uh, what do you need? A signed confession notorized by a"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "lizard people? That's not how the legal system works. The legal system. That's what they want"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "you to believe. The real system involves secret handshakes, LSD, and making sure your star witness doesn't accidentally"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "fall out of window. Chrisman was dismissed and never charged. Klay Shaw was found not guilty."}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "But Garrison never stopped believing that. For some reason, a man who witnessed the UFO crash in 1947, a man"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "with deep ties to the intelligence community, and a man who was openly and loudly extremely far-right and"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "anti-communist was on the Grassol at Di Plaza on November 22nd, 1963."}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "This isn't supposed to be a JFK video. I've tried to stick with Fred Chrisman and the Mory Island UFO. If you want a"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "deeper dive on JFK, let me know. There's plenty there. The claim is that the assassination of JFK wasn't just"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "political. It was an operation to protect the biggest secret in human history, the discovery and reverse"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "engineering of UFOs. And rabbit holes don't get much deeper than this. So,"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "what's true? Well, 60 years later, some facts are documented. Others remain speculation. The debris allegedly on the"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "B25 disappeared. Skeptics say the metallic rocks were industrial slag from"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "a nearby smelting company. Pieces of UFO is industrial slag. That's like calling a Fabeet egg a chicken"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "rock. Skeptics also point out that after Kenneth Arnold saw his flying saucers"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "near Mount Reineer, UFO sightings exploded across the country. Now, Dal and Chrisman might have been"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "lying for money trying to get their story published. Chrisman did have a letter published in Harper's Magazine in"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "1946 where he described battling creatures in an underground cave. He published a second letter in Amazing"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "Stories in May 1947, 2 months before the Moy Island incident. Fred Chrisman does"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "have connections to the JFK assassination, but the evidence is circumstantial. Jim Garrison was"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "criticized for making connections without hard evidence, relying mostly on witness statements. The House Select"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "Committee on Assassinations said there was likely a conspiracy. They never confirmed Chrisman's involvement, and"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "the photograph allegedly showing him near Dy Plaza is grainy. It looks like Chrisman to me, but it's hard to be"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "sure. To this day, nobody knows for sure who they are. The plane crash happened."}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "That's documented, but the military said it had nothing to do with the Mory Island investigation. Oh, the military"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "said so. Uh, we'll pack it up, everyone. The military never lies. Case closed."}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "[Music] Lee Harvey Oswald did work on the"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "YouTube program at Atsugi base in Japan, but thousands of people did. Thousands of people had clearance for classified"}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "programs. It doesn't prove that he was part of a UFO coverup, but some facts won't go away. In 1959, Lee Harvey"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "Oswald defected to the Soviet Union. He renounced his citizenship and said he'd provide military secrets, which we know"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "he had. He found a job. He met his future wife, Marina. Then in 1961, he"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "came back. And typically, when a defector wants to return from the Soviet Union, they face intense scrutiny. They"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "have to negotiate with both governments. It's a long, difficult process. Permission isn't always granted. But Lee"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "Harvey Oswald came back with no problem. The US State Department even loaned him the money. They provided his wife with a"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "visa. Ah, the old secret agent welcome home package comes with a loan, a wife, and"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "an alibi. Ah, nice work if you can get it. Oh, there's more. There always is. Special agent Jack Wilcox's memo to Jar"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "Hoover directly contradicts the official narrative. Remember, Will Cox reported that Dah didn't actually admit to a"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "hoax. He said Dah would call it a hoax to avoid trouble, but privately insisted the story was true. And this is in"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "declassified FBI files. Chrisman also said the UFO sighting was real. He said"}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "so in 1967 to UFO researcher Gary Leslie."}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "I will tell you this much. The Mory Island incident was no hoax. The FBI and"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "the Air Force know it was no hoax. The pieces of the UFO that are still in our possession have proven that it was no"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "hoax. Most of you play games, make a silly hobby out of a matter that should scare you to death. I have little"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "patience with most of your organizations. Fred Chrisman's CIA involvement is"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "confirmed in the Easy Papers. He was a career disruption agent who ran disinformation operations inside the"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "United States. Guy Banister investigated the Mory Island UFO case for the FBI. He"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "operated out of 544 Camp Street in New Orleans. Lee Harvey Oswald worked at that same address. This connection is"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "documented. Kennedy's November 12th, 1963 memos are real. He requested"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "cooperation with the Soviet Union on Space Exploration. He demanded access to UFO files 10 days before his"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "assassination. Alan Dulles, who Kennedy fired, was appointed to the Warren Commission investigating his desk. And"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "nobody can explain why Alan Dulles, who despised the president, was put on that commission. And publicly, Attorney"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "General Robert Kennedy accepted the Warren Commission report. But according to his son RFK Jr., he privately called"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "it a shoddy piece of craftsmanship. Shoddy? Uh, that's an insult to shoddy craftsman everywhere."}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "There's a 60-year cover up. They, you know, the Warren Commission was run by"}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "Allan Dulles, who was the head of the CIA, who my uncle fired. Congress found"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "that, yeah, it was a plot. It was a conspiracy. There were multiple people"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "involved. Oh, it was my father's first instinct that the agency had killed his"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "brother. And we all know what happened to RFK Senior. Senator Clear has been shot. Is that"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "possible? Senator Robert Francis Kennedy died at 1:44"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:43", "text": "a.m. today, June 6th,"}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "1968. The Warren Commission's investigation was deliberately incomplete. The CIA"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "withheld thousands of documents. They're holding them still. Witnesses were ignored. Evidence was suppressed."}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "Declassified files now reveal the CIA actively obstructed the investigation. The cover up is no longer theory. It's"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "documented fact. Kennedy awarded a major defense contract to General Dynamics instead of Boeing. This cost the"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "military-industrial complex billions. Fred Chrisman worked for Boeing. The biggest mystery isn't whether UFOs"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "dropped debris over Puet Sound. It's the connections that followed. The same people who investigated UFO cases in"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "1947 show up in the JFK assassination 16 years later. Guy Banister, Fred"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "Chrisman, Alan Dulles. Same addresses, same witness intimidation, same classified operations. Now, maybe Harold"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "Doll made up the UFO story. Maybe the plane crash was mechanical failure. And maybe every connection is a coincidence."}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "No such thing as a coincidence. That's like finding out your proctologologist and your dentist share an office."}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "Something stinks and it take the fluoride. Kennedy did demand UFO disclosure. He"}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "planned to share classified information with the Soviet Union. Two years earlier, Kennedy laid out his vision for"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "space. Now, it is time to take longer strides. Time for a great new American"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "enterprise. Time for this nation to take a clearly leading role in space"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "achievement, which in many ways may hold the key to our future on Earth."}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "[Applause] Kennedy threatened the military-industrial complex. And about"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "the CIA, he said, \"I will splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.\" 10 days after"}, {"start": "00:35:29", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "demanding access to the UFO files, he was dead. The UFO might have been a hoax, but the conspiracy it exposed is"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "real. The cover up didn't end in 1963. The same agencies that probably killed"}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "Kennedy still operate with the same secrecy. The same classification systems still hide the truth. The CIA says"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "they're protecting America from its enemies. But the more you look, the more you realize they're protecting"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "themselves. America's most dangerous enemy isn't Russia or China or Iran. It's the CIA."}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "Thanks so much for hanging out with us today. My name is AJ. You know he hacklefish. I'm just a psy. This has been the Y"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:20", "text": "Files. If you had fun, learned anything, do us a favor, hit like, subscribe, comment, share. I'm told that stuff"}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "still helps the algorithm, but who really knows? Like most topics we cover on this channel, today's was recommended"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "by you, by a lot of you. So, if there's a story you'd like to see or learn more about, go to the yfiles.com/tips"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "or just email us at teamthefiles.com. And remember, the Yfiles is also a podcast. You can take us on the road."}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "Twice a week I post deep dives into the stories we cover here and I also post episodes that are a little too hot for"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "YouTube. Anyway, it's called, wait for it, the Wi-Fi operation podcast. And it's available everywhere you get your"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "podcasts. And if you are listening on a podcast platform, do us a favor, hit like, follow, thumbs up, what, whatever"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "those buttons are. That stuff actually really does help out. Now, if you need more Wi-Fi files in your life, you may"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:13", "text": "want to adjust your medication. No, I'm kidding. You could check out our Discord server. I think we're over 80,000"}, {"start": "00:37:13", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "members over there. So, 24/7 there's someone on Discord. They're talking about the same geeky weird stuff we talk"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "about here. It's a great community. It's a lot of fun. It's really supportive and it's free to join. Now, speaking of"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:31", "text": "24/7, check out our 24/7 live stream on the Y Files backstage. Over there, we"}, {"start": "00:37:31", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "run episodes backtoback with a lot of unique fun content in between. And uh I"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "pop in there sometimes and say hello. And you never know when you're going to get hit with a free membership. We drop"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "a lot of fun stuff in there. You know what? Now that I think about it, the videos are fine, but it's the live chat"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:57", "text": "that's a lot of fun. If you want to follow what's going on with Y Files, you can check out our production calendar. It's at the yfiles.com/cal."}, {"start": "00:37:57", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "There you can find our episode schedule, upcoming podcasts, live streams, all that stuff. Special thanks to our patron"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "who made this episode happen and made the whole channel possible. Everything on the Y files is dedicated to our"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "Patreon members. I could not do this without you and I appreciate you sticking with me through the hard times."}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:21", "text": "And if you've been with this channel for a while, you remember those. But I'm back almost. And if you'd like to"}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "support the channel, keep us going, and join this amazing community, become a member on Patreon. For as little as $3 a"}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "month, you get access to all kinds of perks. You get to see videos and podcast early with no commercials. Exclusive"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "merch only available to Patreon members. Plus, two private live streams every week, all just for you. And the whole W"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "files team is on the stream. So, there's my big fat faces on there and you can see Victoria, Jen, Gino, everybody's"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "there. And you can turn your webcam on, jump up on stage, ask a question, tell a"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:58", "text": "joke if you want to learn more about a topic or suggest a topic. It's a great way to engage with us and get to know us"}, {"start": "00:38:58", "end": "00:39:05", "text": "as people cuz we are allegedly. Another great way to support the channel is grab something from the Wi-Fi store. I got a"}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "t-shirt or one of these festival coffee mugs. You can stick your fist in, but if it gets stuck, don't don't call me. Go"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:17", "text": "to the to the emergency room. I say I claim no responsibility for your fist. Oh, get a hoodie. Oh, shut my face on"}, {"start": "00:39:17", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "it. Look at one of these adorable squeezy animal talking. Look how cute it"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "is. for these targets. But if you're going to buy merch, make sure you become a member on YouTube. I"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "know, hear me out. YouTube members get 10% off everything in the Wi-Fi store, and it's only $3 a month. So, if you're"}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "going to spend $40 on t-shirts or fistable coffee mugs, if you become a member on YouTube, you get the coupon"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:49", "text": "code. It pays for itself. And look, if you want to cancel after you shop on the store, that's totally fine. The"}, {"start": "00:39:49", "end": "00:39:55", "text": "membership is there to save you money, not make me money. In fact, all the money from YouTube memberships goes to"}, {"start": "00:39:55", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "my great team. Yeah, but keep that keep that a little little secret between us. Eh,"}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "those are the plugs. I didn't add any more this week, did I? I got some more coming, though. So, more plugs are in"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:15", "text": "the works. So, that's going to do it. Until next time, be safe, be kind, and know that you are appreciated."}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "[Music] Oh"}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "yeah, I play in Area 51. A secret code inside"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:42", "text": "the Bible said I would. I love my UFOs and paranormal fun as"}, {"start": "00:40:42", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "well as music singing like I should."}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "But then another conspiracy theory becomes the truth my friends"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "and it never ends. No, it never ends. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "I feel the crab cat. I got stuck inside Mel's hole with MK outra being only"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:18", "text": "twoear. Did Stanley Cubrick fake the moon"}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:25", "text": "landing alone on a film set? I would shadow people there."}, {"start": "00:41:25", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "The Roswell alas just fought the smiling man, I'm told."}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:38", "text": "and his name was cold. But I can't agree. I'm dancing with the fish and the"}, {"start": "00:41:38", "end": "00:41:43", "text": "fish on Thursday night when they choose."}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:56", "text": "[Music] The world was all through the night."}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "The Mman sidings and the solar storm still come to a god. The secret city"}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "underground. Mysterious number stations. Planet"}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "Circle to Project Stargate. And where the dark watchers found"}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:39", "text": "in a simulation. Don't you worry though. The black night satellite. It's over."}, {"start": "00:42:39", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "Oh, I can't believe I'm dancing with the fish"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "on Thursday night and my family through the night."}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "All I ever wanted was to hear the truth. My all through the night"}, {"start": "00:43:05", "end": "00:43:11", "text": "when they change you all through the night."}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "All I ever wanted was the truth. The world beauty"}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "loves to dance. Girl loves to dance on the dance floor"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "because she is a camel. Camel loves to dance. And the feeling is right on"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "wasting time. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:07", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "This episode of the Y Files is brought to you by Delete Me. Hey, thanks for checking out another"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "compilation. I'm especially grateful that you clicked because this video is"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "going to be demonetized and suppressed. And that's because half the episodes in"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "this compilation are what YouTube calls not suitable for all advertisers. So, thank you. The first episode is"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "I mean, talk about starting off with a with a banger. This is the dark side of DARPA."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "On the Y files, you walk a line between exploring wild conspiracies and keeping the audience grounded in facts. Have you"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "ever stumbled on a piece of information that made you stop and think, \"This is bigger than I want to touch. This sounds"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "like our breakfast conversation. And if so, what made you decide to hold back?\""}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "Um, the one episode that that that really got me emotional was I was doing the"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "dark side of DARPA and I went into that everyone knows DARPA and their projects"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "and and their science going back to whatever 40s, '50s, '60s, but in the as"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "I was going through the research, I found the connection between DARPA and"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "Asian orange and aged purple and all of that all all the Vietnam chemicals And I"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "got very emotional about that because my father-in-law is suffers from everything, every illness that you can"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "have from Agent Orange. Was he a Vietnam vet? He was Air Force. Yeah. This is an"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "emotional episode. This is the only episode that I completely finished editing and"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "I thought, I I don't want to upload this. I mean, there's been plenty of episodes, pretty much everyone in this"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "compilation that I've been uncomfortable with. Like, not so much worried for my"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "safety, but worried that I'd get a phone call or a knock on the door or an audit,"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "which I got. But this one, I finished and I said, \"It's too dark. It's too"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "emotional. It's too controversial.\" But it became"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "important to me, very personal. So, dark side of DARPA."}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "Who you talking to? I'm talking to you. You"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "I need you to wire 500 bucks to tank biker bar in Kansas City. What for?"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "No, I owe Big Sheila 500. Uh or she's going to break my fins. Apparently, you're not supposed to call her beard"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "majestic. Big Sheila? Wait, are you What are you doing in Missouri? I'm tracking down a dirt bag named Pete"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "Luka. Uh, he's not on a run. He's not dangerous. He's worse. He got into my identity file. My birthday, my address,"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "my real name, even the shameful truth that I was once shrimp_daddy69aol.com."}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "Peter, I I think you mean people looker. It's a data broker site. When you steal a man's details, you"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "steal his dignity, his honor, his TGI Friday's rewards, right? The three pillars of manhood."}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "Before every hunt, I set to myself. I pray, I breathe, then I pepper spray"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "him, cuff them, and drag him to justice. I'm pretty sure you have to be licensed to do any of that. Don't interrupt the creed, brother. When"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "the vest goes on, mercy comes off. Uh, that's not a vest. That's a leather crop top."}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "Same thing. You know, you didn't have to go all the way to Missouri, right? You could just use delete me. Figures. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "wait, wait, wait. Is this today's sponsor? It is. Your personal data is being"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "collected and sold by data brokers who list your name, phone, address, and relatives online, exposing you to scams,"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "harassment, and doxing. That's why I use Delete Me, a hands-free service that removes your info from hundreds of data"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "broker and people search sites. And Delete Me gets to work fast. Within 7 days, you'll get a privacy report"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "showing exactly what they found and removed, like your address, phone number, and more. And they keep scanning"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "and repeating removals as needed all year round. Plus, you're not on your own. Delete Me has real privacy experts"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "who handle custom requests when you need them. After a few creepy messages that mentioned my old address, I signed up"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "for Delete Me. They found my data, removed it, and showed me everything they took down, which was a lot more"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "than I thought, and I felt an immediate sense of relief. Get 20% off DeleteMe consumer plans when you go to"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "joindeleteme.com/theyiles and use promo code the yfiles at checkout or scan the QR code on screen."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "Join deleteme.com/dyfiles and use code dy files for 20% off."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "You got that right. Delete me. The most powerful weapon in my arsenal right next to my pepper spray."}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "Congratulations. Shrimp_daddy69 finally did something useful. Don't mark the handle, brother. That"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "name carries weight in certain chat rooms and cell blocks."}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "In the early days of the space race, the Soviet Union racked up a lot of firsts."}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "Sputnik, the first satellite. Leica, the dog, the first animal in space. Yuri"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "Gagarin, the first man in space. Valentina Terishova, the first woman. ZH"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "5, the first spacecraft to the moon. Meanwhile, America's space program"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "lagged, plagued by setback after setback. There were some successes, but"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "not enough to keep pace with the Soviets. America was still planning its first satellite while Sputnik circled"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "the Earth. Then, Sputnik 2 went up. American citizens were terrified. What"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "if the Russians put weapons in space? Maybe they already have. Paranoia was"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "starting to become hysteria. President Eisenhower was under pressure to act and to act fast. The United States"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "government knew what it had to do. Create an organization to develop the most technologically advanced military"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "systems in the world. And just 3 months after Sputnik 2 was launched, the Advanced Research Project Agency or ARPA"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "was born. Later, ARPA became DARPA. The D stands for defense. Because DARPA"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "would be both a sword and a shield, creating offensive weapons and defensive systems. No project was too expensive,"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "and no program was too immoral. DARPA's secret research would cost many lives."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "But sacrifices had to be made for the sake of security. But after all these years, it's time to ask, who are they"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "really protecting?"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "Here's the scene. You're driving. It's late and the road ahead is dark. You make a turn and then another. You"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "finally realize you're lost. If this were the not too distant past, you'd pull over and grab your Thomas guide."}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "Yeah, for you kids, that's a map. And if you didn't have a map, you'd try to find a gas station or 7-Eleven to ask"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "for directions. Then your fate would be in the hands of the guy working the night shift who may or may not be a serial killer,"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "right? But now all the answers are in your pocket. You tell your phone the"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "address and GPS guides the way. Some cars will even drive for you while you sit back, relax, and listen to your"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "favorite podcast. Oh, you know the Y files is also a podcast. No plugs yet. Please, we save those for"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "the end. Sorry. Sorry. I I I could sniff out a plug opportunity like a trouble pig."}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "The technology I described that got you to your destination, it was created by DARPA. All of it. And there's a lot more"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "of DARPA in your pocket than you think. Your cell phone uses microprocessors designed by DARPA. They also created the"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "batteries to power those microprocessors. Your phone uses wireless technology made possible by"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "DARPA. The touchscreen and the microphone came from DARPA. Voice recognition and GPS come from DARPA."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "And of course, all this data transfer happens using the internet, which was created by DARPA."}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "Excuse me if I may. Uh, is this going to be a highly predictable and hacked joke about how Al"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "Gore said he created the internet? I I yield the rest of my time. Thank you."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "Mhm. Yes, DARPA created the internet. Well,"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "technically they were still ARPA then. Remember the D was added in 1972. In the 1960s, researchers were trying to figure"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "out a way to ensure reliable communications in case of a nuclear attack. Traditional telephone lines and"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "radio transmitters would be the first to go. They came up with a radical idea. Packet"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "switching. Now, all of us speak nerd. Some of us went to our prom instead of"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "staying home to write code on our Apple 2. Well, packet switching is not as"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "complicated as it sounds. Here's how it works. You want to send a message or file from New York to LA. But what if"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "half the country's lines are down? So, you break that message into small chunks called packets and send each one"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "independently over the network. On the receiving end, the message waits for all the packets to arrive and then"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "reassembles them back into the original message or file. Each packet will independently try to find the most"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "efficient route through the network at any given moment. The internet still works this way. Most people didn't use"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "the internet until the late 1990s or early 2000s. Some nerds like me were using our phones to dial bulletin board"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "systems in the late 1970s and early 80s. But this new network called Arpanet was"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "conceived in 1966. Wow. You were online all the way back then when you were like 12 or 13 years"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "old. Yep. I was even younger than that when I first got online. And you're proud of this? Well, yeah. Shouldn't I be proud? We"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "didn't know girls existed. Yes, I knew they existed. Nah, now I see what"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "girls didn't know you existed. I was a late bloomer. Boomer? Bloomer?"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "What' I say? Under DARPA's guidance, TCPIP became the"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "universal language for online computers. They also developed the concept of email and invented domain names. DARPA worked"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "with UC Berkeley to create the BSD Unix operating system. BSD Unix heavily"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "influenced the operating system you're using right now, no matter what OS it is. It started with DARPA. Now, these"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "technologies may seem modern, but DARPA sent the first internet message in 1969."}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "Now, this shouldn't be surprising. DARPA technology is said to be about 20 years ahead of civilian tech."}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "Like self-driving cars, DARPA built one in 1984. DARPA had GPS in 1973."}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "microprocessors, motion sensors, and wireless communication. DARPA had these"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "decades ago, but eventually these innovations became available to the rest of us. DARPA's technology has made our"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "lives so much better, it's easy to forget that those innovations weren't originally meant to improve lives. They"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "were meant to end them."}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "It's the middle of the night and you're lying prone on top of a dusty building in some far corner of the world. You hug"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "your 50 caliber Barrett sniper rifle. It's pitch dark, but your light gathering high magnification scope gives"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "you full visibility of the alley 1,200 yd away. A door opens. It's your target"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "right on schedule. You hold your breath and put your finger on the trigger."}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "Suddenly, a van appears. Your target leaps in and speeds off."}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "Years ago, he'd escaped. Mission failed. Not now. You fire confident in DARPA's"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "latest innovation, a self-guided bullet. With optical sensors and real-time"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "guidance, it maneuvers mid-flight locked onto its target. Skilled snipers engaged"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "targets up to,300 yd away or more. The farthest confirmed kill 2.2 m by"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "Canadian special forces in 2017. Impressive. But DARPA's extreme accuracy"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "task ordinance or exacto bullet hits targets five or six miles away, maybe"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "farther. DARPA keeps the details a secret. Many DARPA projects seem like science fiction, some like magic."}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "Scepter lets you see through walls. The Mojave project bends light, making objects invisible. DARPA's engineering"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "living materials program uses living fungus as a construction material. Structures will no longer be built."}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "They'll be grown. Instead of shipping finished materials,"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "we can ship precursors and rapidly grow them on site using local resources. And"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "since the materials will be alive, they'll be able to respond to changes in their environment and heal themselves in"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "response to damage. DARPA likes fungus, but it loves bugs."}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "Project Insect Allies modifies flying insects to attack crops. These insects"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "resist disease and repair each other's injuries in the field. Then there's the hybrid insect microelectrical mechanical"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "systems or highs. This project along with project dragonfly creates miniature"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "flying cyborgs. Beetles, moths, and dragonflies become undetectable spies"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "with cybernetic implants and solar powered guidance systems. They could be controlled remotely or operate"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "autonomously using AI. They've created remote controlled rats. DARPA trains"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "bees to find landmines. They're developing cllaytronics, programmable shape-shifting matter. They're"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "developing nuclearpowered spacecraft. Autonomous vehicles and weapons of all kinds. DARPA's technology is meant to"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "keep people off the battlefield. Why risk a battalion of human soldiers when you can deploy a fleet of drones? But"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "sometimes you need boots on the ground, and that means people with guns. But DARPA has a better idea. Don't give a"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "soldier a weapon, turn them into one."}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "The human body is an amazing machine. Our muscular skeletal system allows us"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "to do gymnastics, lift heavy weights, and walk long distances. Still, our"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "bodies have limitations. DARPA is developing technology to overcome these limitations. The goal is to increase"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "strength, endurance, alertness, and the overall health of soldiers. DARPA's Warrior Web project is one of"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "several exoskeleton programs in the works. It's an exo suit, lightweight and flexible, similar to a scuba suit, but"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "this is a smart suit. Using machine learning and onboard sensors, the suit knows when and where to firm up to"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "augment muscles. It performs its function, then becomes flexible again."}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "DARPA has also developed hard exoskeletons, just like you've seen in movies like Aliens and Edge of Tomorrow."}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "These exoskeletons not only increase strength and endurance, but they're modular. They can be equipped with all"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "kinds of weapons. There's even a jetpack in development. The tallow suit turns a soldier into a real life Iron Man. It's"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "bulletproof and weaponized. It increases strength, speed, and endurance. It"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "monitors the user's vital signs and has sensors that analyze the entire environment around them. The tactical"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "augmented reality or TR project is a headset that overlays information over"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "your normal vision. This gives soldiers real-time information like displaying maps, enemy locations, and other vital"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "data right in their line of sight. Project Zman was inspired by geckos."}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "DARPA is creating a material that would let soldiers climb walls without ropes or ladders. Now, everyone knows the Air"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "Force gives their pilots aiments. I feel the need. The Need for Speed."}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "The Need for Speed. Yep. They literally take illegal narcotics to stay alert."}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "But the Continuous Assisted Performance or CAP program is focused on keeping soldiers awake, alert, and effective for"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "up to 7 days straight without side effects. DARPA's brain initiative program connects soldiers brains to"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "computers. They can control drones and other systems with thought. They can truly multitask where one part of the"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "brain is operating a drone while the other part of the brain is analyzing the area looking for targets."}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "In the early 2000s, DARPA started exploring ways of giving humans superhuman abilities without equipment."}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "This is DARPA's bio-revolution program. They studied how animals attack, defend"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "themselves, and regenerate from injuries. DARPA felt that if they could find those"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "answers, these abilities could be transferred to humans."}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "They could give soldiers improved senses, perfect eyesight, and limb regeneration without external devices."}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "Now, to do that, you'd have to alter human DNA. So, DARPA is exploring crisper gene editing technology."}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "Crisper can snip out unwanted genes and insert new ones. Crisper could accelerate healing. Injuries that might"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "have sidelined soldiers for weeks or months could heal in days. Crisper technology has already sparked a"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "revolution in medicine with the potential to cure genetic disorders and even combat aging."}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "Link below and how crisp and AI are about to end the whole world. Yeah, that episode is scary, but it's"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "interesting and it's real. Now, some of these projects have failed and some haven't and some are still in"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "development. I have no doubt that DARPA will turn soldiers into superhuman weapons eventually, but they haven't"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "yet. So, how do you put boots on the ground and keep humans off the battlefield? DARPA's answer, killer"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "robots."}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "DARPA started working on robotics in the 1960s. Its first project was Shaky, the"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "first mobile robot to reason about its actions. Shaky wasn't sleek or fast, but"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "it was a start. Ah, you know, I I feel like if you name your project Shaky, you're kind of setting"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "yourself up to fail. Well, since then, DARPA's robotics has come a long way. In the early 2000s,"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "DARPA launched the Big Dog program. In partnership with Boston Dynamics, these four-legged robots can carry heavy loads"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "and navigate difficult terrain. They can also be outfitted with weapons like sniper rifles or machine guns. The LS3"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "can follow soldiers autonomously and carry up to 400 lb of gear. And then"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "there's the Atlas robot. And now we're getting serious. Atlas was launched in 2013, and you've"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "probably seen various versions of this robot over the years. Atlas could run, jump, and navigate obstacle courses. A"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "couple of years ago, Atlas used AI to teach itself how to walk and then run"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "and then do gymnastics. Yeah, you humans realize it's only a matter of time"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "before these things take over and enslave you, right? Uh, some of us realize it."}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "Investigative journalist Annie Jacobson has covered DARPA for years. She says there's no doubt that the Pentagon is"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "investing heavily in robotics. DARPA's plan through 2038 states without"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "question that the Pentagon is moving towards robotic warfare. They want to"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "have hunter killer drones that can swim, crawl, walk, run. Drones that can fly"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "13,000 m an hour, which is 22 times faster than a commercial jet to get to a"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "target really quickly. Ballistic missiles have limitations."}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "Speeds over Mach 20 require too much power and make the rockets dangerously hot. But thanks to DARPA, that's no"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "longer a problem. Missiles can now travel at hypersonic speed without overheating. A target 500 m away can be"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "destroyed in 6 minutes. Weapons like these certainly keep humans off the battlefield. But DARPA is going to take"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "it one step further. It's creating the technology to wage war without needing"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "humans at all. Remember"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "how DARPA is always about 20 years ahead of civilian technology, maybe more? Well, as early as the 1960s, DARPA"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "started developing computers that can learn independently. In the 1980s, DARPA launched the"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "Strategic Computing Initiative or SEI. The goal of SEI was to create military strategies by running simulations and"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "learning from them. You're describing war games."}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "probably learn it. War Games was originally going to be a"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "science fiction story about a dying scientist who's saved by a kid genius. But then the writers met Peter Schwarz"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "from the Stanford Research Institute or SRRI. The SRI. I know those guys."}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "You do? SRRI has been the launchpad for many secret government programs. I've"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "talked about them a lot on this channel, and they've long been connected to the CIA, NSA, and DARPA. Well, Schwarz was"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "fascinated by a new computer subculture called hackers. He suggested that they make a movie about a kid hacking a"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "military supercomput. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What was it? It was called The Big Mac. No, whopper. War operation plan"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "response. Oh, right. I'd still rather have a Big Mac. Me, too."}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "Well, the Whopper spends all its time thinking about World War II. 24 hours a"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "day, 365 days a year, it plays an endless series of war games using all"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "available information on the state of the world. At the very same time that this movie"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "came out, DARPA was working on its own military supercomput. Here's how they described it."}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "The machine envisioned by SC would run 10 billion instructions per second to see, hear, speak, and think like a"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "human. The degree of integration required would rival that achieved by the human brain, the most complex"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "instrument known to man. If you haven't caught on by now, we're talking about artificial intelligence. Today, AI is"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "everywhere and accessible to everyone. And it feels like it came out of nowhere, but it didn't. It came out of"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "DARPA. As of today, 70% of DARPA's projects use"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "or are focused on AI and machine learning. DARPA started working on AI in"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "the 1960s. They built their first AI system, a speech recognition computer in the 1970s. In 1983, the strategic"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "computing initiative project received billions for AI research. Then in the"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "1990s, DARPA launched another supercomputing project. It was and still"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "is highly secret. It's affecting you right now. And once I tell you what it is, you're not going to like it."}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "Now, it's time to get this video demonetized and censored. Yeah, boy. Yeah. If I'm not on a list by now, I I'm"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "about to be. No, they're watching you, human. Yeah. I I really don't want to talk about this. Honestly, I'm about to put"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "everything that I have at risk. Uh, you're actually scaring me right now. I'm scared, too."}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "Here we go."}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "Welcome. Like the steam engine which sparked the industrial revolution of the late 1700s,"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "the internet is changing everything it touches. And at the cutting edge of the revolution is Wall Street."}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "So we are now 6 and 3/4 points above fair value. The early 1990s was the beginning of the"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "tech boom. Internet startups were getting millions in investments."}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "of data, personal data. The intelligence community wanted to gather this data to"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "create a digital fingerprint of everyone using the internet. If they could identify bad actors, criminals,"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "terrorists, whatever, they would compare that fingerprint against others. They called this the birds of a feather"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "approach. If Joe's a bad guy and Bob's a bad guy, and they both go to certain websites, then other people visiting"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "those same websites were potential bad guys. So, let's track them. So, surveillance,"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "yes. Of Americans, yes. Legal? No. Well, officially illegal as of 2010, but"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "the law was murky in the 1990s. And for the intelligence community, murky means"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "opportunity. Still, the intelligence agencies didn't have the ability to manage all this"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "data, but they knew people were out there working on it, and they were all looking for funding. But if you're the"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "NSA or CIA or DARPA, you can't drop by an internet startup and ask them to build you an illegal digital"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "surveillance program. Yeah, it's kind of a bad look. It is, but it also gives away the game."}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "Surveillance is only valuable if the target doesn't know they're being watched. So, this technology would need"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "to be funded privately and quietly. So, in 1994, the Highlands Forum was"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "founded. Ever hear of the Highlands Forum? You probably haven't. and they like it that way."}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "The Highlands Forum or Highlands Group was formed as a think tank, a bridge between technology companies and the"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "Pentagon. The Highlands Forum is an invitationonly group of government officials,"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "academics, and executives from tech and defense companies. Their discussions are private and off the record, operating"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "under the Chattam House rule, meaning members can disclose information from the meetings as long as it doesn't harm"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "anybody, but they can never reveal who said it. Not ever."}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "Although hardly anyone knows about the Highlands Forum, the group is highly influential on US defense policy,"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "especially regarding technology. And they're a private organization. No auditing, no oversight, no Freedom of"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "Information Act requirements. They're a black box. The perfect conduit for transactions you want to keep off the"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "books. So tech is booming, data is flowing, and we've got our think tank to"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "connect us with the people capturing the data. Now we need the money to fund them."}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "That same year, the massive digital data systems or MDDS program was launched."}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "MTDS would fund scientists, researchers, and companies who worked with big data sets. The Highlands Forum would help"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "identify, facilitate, and coordinate these transactions. To keep these transactions private and"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "secret, the MDDS moved money through unclassified mainstream agencies like the National Science Foundation."}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "Computer scientists were getting millions in grants from the NSF. Totally normal. They didn't know who was really"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "behind the money. And MDDS was highly compartmentalized. It had tons of projects and departments. Nobody knew"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "what anyone else was doing or who was even in charge. And this was by design, but the overall program was managed by"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "the CIA, NSA, and DARPA. So, we've got blackbudget money flowing"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "through the NSF, and we've got our private organization, the Highlands Forum, looking for opportunities. So,"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "the word goes out to researchers in academia. If you can handle big data, we'll give you big money."}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "Then a promising project emerged. Two Stamford graduate students working on a search engine made a breakthrough."}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "In the early '90s, searching the internet was difficult. Popular engines like Alta Vista and LOS produced hit or"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "miss results. Searching hiking gear would show pages mentioning hiking or gear, often"}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "irrelevant blog posts or articles. Users had to scroll through pages of useless results. It took forever and I remember"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "it well. Two Stamford students developed a system that changed everything."}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "Their automated webcwling system identified a web page's context, not just the text. Then pages were ranked"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "based on relevance to specific queries. Pages actually discussing hiking gear"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "would rank higher for that query. High traffic pages and pages with lots of incoming links ranked even higher. These"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "were signals to the algorithm that a page was a good match for that query. Using this search engine felt like"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "magic. Usually the first or second result was exactly what you were looking for. Somehow it knew. The system used an"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "optimization technique called association rule mining or query flocks."}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "This assumes birds of a feather stick together, meaning people searching specific keywords tended to click the"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "same result. Query flocks worked with people, too. The search engine learned that people with similar online habits"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "search for similar things. If you searched hiking gear, the system assumed you liked outdoor activities and were"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "probably within a certain age group. And the more you used the search engine, the more it learned about you. So your"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "searches always gave you relevant results. Using information you willingly"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "provided, these students had developed a method to create your digital fingerprint. Jackpot."}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "The CIA, NSA, and DARPA learned about this project and through the National Science Foundation, the NDDDS funded it."}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "If you haven't guessed by now, those two students were Sergey Brin and Larry Page. And the search engine was Google."}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "You won't find MDDS in Google's origin story, but this is public unclassified information. It's just hard to find. In"}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "Brennan Page's famous 1998 research paper, the anatomy of a large-scale hypertextual web search engine, they"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "thanked DARPA for their support. You can see this for yourself. It's on page 16, section 7 under acknowledgements. Now,"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "there's a lot more to this rabbit hole. The connection between intelligence agencies and technology companies is so"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "hang on hang on. What? Pop quiz. Go ahead. How do you make your living?"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "YouTube. And who owns YouTube? Google. Right. Bye-bye channel. Now would be a"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "good time to ask for Patreon support. I don't do plugs until the end of the episode. Make an exception. We're in the deep"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "water now. He might be right. Truly and honestly. I won't know until it's too late. But"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "telling you the story might have been a terrible mistake. So yes, please go to patreon.com/theiles."}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "I don't know if we will, but we might need your help. Anyway, this video isn't"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "about Google. It's about DARPA, specifically the dark side of DARPA. And it's about to get a whole lot darker."}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "When John F. Kennedy took office in 1961, America had allies everywhere."}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "Cuba, Ethiopia, Nicaragua, Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia, Iran, Lebanon, and"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "many others. But the Soviet Union was fueling insurrections against USfriendly"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "governments. Kennedy promised to stop the spread of communism, but the Soviets were pouring billions into military"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "technology, rocket and missile systems, even space exploration. JFK was"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "committed to keeping pace. He wanted more resources in science and technology. He modernized the military"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "and doubled DARPA's budget. And the timing couldn't be better. The global cold war had evolved into regional proxy"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "wars with the Soviets. A new type of warfare was being fought, guerilla warfare. Old military strategies"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "wouldn't work. The situation in Vietnam was especially bad. The Vietkong were hidden under the"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "thick jungle canopy. You can't kill an enemy that you can't see. DARPA proposed a solution, Project"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "Agile. It was pitched to Kennedy as both a scientific and military endeavor. Kennedy signed off immediately."}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "The first phase was called Operation Ranchhand. Its purpose was to clear the jungle. DARPA developed the rainbow"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "herbicides, named for their container colors to kill the foliage. Agent Purple was first, then green, then pink. DARPA"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:45", "text": "was combining different herbicides, defoliants, and toxins, looking for the perfect formula to destroy Vietkong"}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "cover. Agent Orange was the winner. Millions of gallons of Agent Orange was sprayed over miles of jungle every day."}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "Leaves fell from trees almost immediately. Another application and the trees died."}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "Next, Project Agile targeted farms. Asian Orange could destroy miles of crops in a day. They asked South"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "Vietnamese President DM if he knew which farms were Vietkong and which belonged to innocent civilians. He said yes, he"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "knew and he didn't care. If they weren't traitors yet, they would be soon. Kill them all."}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "Now, the US didn't want to do this, but it only had a few hundred military advisers in Vietnam at this time. They"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "didn't want to send more. Better to sacrifice North Vietnamese farmers than US Marines. So, it was done. Guilty or"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "innocent, friend or foe, if you were a North Vietnamese farmer, you were targeted. Your crops were destroyed and"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "your soil was poisoned. Replanting was impossible. Ancient Orange's effects were instant"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "and devastating, and nobody knew it was only the beginning."}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "As the Vietnam War escalated, so did the use of Agent Orange under DARPA's Project Agile. Project Agile used other"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "tactics. DARPA contractors included social scientists and experts in human psychology. Propaganda spread through"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "leaflets, loudspeakers, and media control. Subliminal technology kept people in heightened emotional states"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "from minor discomfort to absolute terror. Subliminal warfare mind control link"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "down the alley. Sally psychological warfare teams targeted"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "villages, turning neighbor against neighbor. Civilians were forced into strategic hamlets for their safety. 4"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "million people were relocated against their will. Meanwhile, soldiers complained of headaches, nausea,"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "stinging eyes, and rashes. Agent Orange did more than clear jungle and kill crops. It tortured people for life."}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "Thousands exposed to Agent Orange developed cancer. Children were born with defects. Agent Orange caused"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:06", "text": "reproductive problems like infertility and miscarriages. Heart disease and diabetes increased. Agent orange was"}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "first used in 1962. In 1965, scientists discovered it contained dioxin, a highly"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "toxic compound that causes cancer and birth defects. They kept using it. In"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "1967, a study proved dioxin causes birth defects even at low concentrations. They"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "kept using it. In 1969, a Department of Defense report acknowledged Agent"}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "Orange's severe health risks. They kept using it. Public outcry forced President"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "Nixon to stop the use of Agent Orange in 1970. They kept using it. They stopped"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "spraying the following year, 1971."}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "Now, even in war, there are rules. PS must be treated humanely. Medical staff"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:37:02", "text": "and facilities are off limits. Humanitarian aid must be allowed. Breaking these rules is a war crime. In"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "1907, the Hay Convention banned the use of poison in war. The US signed the treaty. Agent Orange was poison. That's"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:15", "text": "what herbicides are. So, was using Agent Orange a war crime? No. The United"}, {"start": "00:37:15", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "States said Agent Orange wasn't a poison. It was an herbicide. The treaty didn't specifically mention herbicides."}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "Oh, that's some lawyer loophole In 1925, the Geneva Protocol banned the"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "use of chemical weapons. The US signed this treaty, but Agent Orange was a chemical. Of the 12 companies producing"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "Agent Orange, the primary manufacturer was the DAO Chemical Company. The word chemical is in the company's name. So,"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "is using Agent Orange a war crime? Nope. The United States said Agent Orange"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "wasn't a chemical. It was an herbicide. Wait. How is that even possible? It's not. In 1949, the Geneva"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "Conventions established that civilians and their property must not be intentionally targeted. Only combatants"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "and military targets were allowed. The US signed this treaty. But civilians and their farms were intentionally targeted"}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "with Agent Orange. So, is using it a war crime? No."}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "The United States said the intent was to disrupt the enemy's logistical support and visibility, not cause direct harm to"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "people. In other words, it was an accident. So, what about the destruction of plants and trees on civilian land?"}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "Those weren't military targets. Isn't this a war crime? No. The United States"}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:41", "text": "said it was a military necessity to defoliate the area in order to deny the enemy cover, which makes trees, any"}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "trees anywhere, a military target. What about destroying civilian crops?"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "Again, the US only intended to destroy crops of the enemy, not civilians. It was unintentional, so no war crime. In"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:39:01", "text": "1977, the Geneva Conventions were amended to specifically ban the use of herbicides and reinforce civilian"}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "protection. The US signed this new treaty, but still denied any liability for the damage caused by Agent Orange."}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:15", "text": "However, in 1984, US veterans sued the chemical companies who settled for $180"}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "million. But the settlement was to support veterans, not an admission of guilt. In"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:28", "text": "2004, Jill Montgomery speaking for the Monsanto Company, one of the major suppliers of Agent Orange, uh she set"}, {"start": "00:39:28", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "the record straight. We're sympathetic with people who believe they've been injured and"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "understand their concern to find the cause, but reliable scientific evidence"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "indicates that Agent Orange is not the cause of serious long-term health"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "effects. In 1991,"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "finally, the VA started providing benefits to vets exposed to Agent Orange. But the US still denies"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "liability. My father-in-law served in Vietnam. He was exposed to Agent Orange."}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:07", "text": "He's watching, so I won't list his illnesses, but he suffered almost all of"}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "them. So, in 1991, he applied for his benefits. And I'll admit, the government kept its word. He did receive his"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:20", "text": "benefits. In 2021, it took 30 years. Like so many vets, when his country"}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "needed him, he didn't hesitate. But when he needed his country, they said, \"Take a number, get in line, and hope you're"}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "still alive by the time we call your name.\" Do I sound angry? That's because I am."}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "Between 1955 and 1975, 2.7 million people were deployed to Vietnam. 58,000"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "dead, 300,000 wounded, 3,000 missing or prisoners of war, 1500 still missing."}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "That's tragic, but it's much worse. The VA estimates 300,000 to 400,000 veterans"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "may have died from illnesses caused by the exposure to Agent Orange. May have"}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "to this day. To this day, no single person, agency,"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "company, or government has admitted any wrongdoing or assumed any liability for the millions of lives destroyed by Agent"}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:27", "text": "Orange. Now, ordinary people like us have so many rules we have to follow. Don't speed. Check grandma's shoes"}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:32", "text": "before she gets on a plane. Pay your taxes even though we're going to steal it and waste your money. Pick up a gun."}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "Shoot at those people. Do what you're told. If we break a law, the government will take our money, seize our property,"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "force us into labor, or lock us in a cell. It all depends on the crime. So, we follow the law. But if you're a big"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:54", "text": "chemical company or a government agency, don't worry about the law. You can get away with murder."}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:08", "text": "I needed a minute. The story of DARPA is hard to debunk, and that's because most of it's true. What we know about DARPA's"}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:15", "text": "projects come from them. Their websites and official YouTube channel openly share information. They have a podcast"}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "called Voices of DARPA. Even the experts in covering DARPA, Annie Jacobson and Sharon Weinberger, get their information"}, {"start": "00:42:22", "end": "00:42:27", "text": "from the agency they're writing about. When Jacobson gives a speech, writes a book, or appears in an interview about"}, {"start": "00:42:27", "end": "00:42:34", "text": "DARPA, she's not sharing classified information. She's not speculating. She's reporting. She never claims to"}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": "00:42:41", "text": "know anything that we can't find out for ourselves. But still, most information is secret. What we know about DARPA is"}, {"start": "00:42:41", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "what they want us to know. There's no transparency. None. Also, DARPA is"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:52", "text": "exempt from laws that other government agencies have to follow. Specifically about hiring practices, managing"}, {"start": "00:42:52", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "personnel, and managing budgets. They can run the agency however they like. DARPA is only 220 people. That's it."}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:05", "text": "with a budget of almost $4 billion. Now, that's a lot of freedom and power, but"}, {"start": "00:43:05", "end": "00:43:12", "text": "it's much more than that. DARPA is allowed to fund projects through what's called other transactions. No"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:17", "text": "congressional approval needed. No reporting required. Choose the projects you want to fund and fund them. So,"}, {"start": "00:43:17", "end": "00:43:23", "text": "who's choosing the projects? Annie Jacobson gives us an unsettling answer."}, {"start": "00:43:23", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "The real problem is that the individuals who are responsible for deciding what"}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "weapon systems are being financed and created in these classified DARPA"}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:40", "text": "programs are the very CEOs of defense contractors who stand to financially"}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:47", "text": "benefit from these contracts. Annie Jacobson has said that DARPA is"}, {"start": "00:43:47", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "the agency driving the military-industrial complex. That agency is run by the companies that profit from"}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "the technology they create. This is exactly what President Eisenhower said would happen. If you make war"}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "profitable, you'll always have war. But to be fair, DARPA's innovations have"}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "made our lives better. Not just because of cell phones and GPS. DARPA's achievements in prosthetics have allowed"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "paralyzed children to walk again. They've created medical techniques to diagnose illnesses earlier. They've"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "bio-engineered tissue and organs that can be used for transplants. They've developed machines that can stabilize"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "injured people in emergency situations. Advanced medical imaging such as ultrasound, MRI, and brain imaging. All"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "created by or alongside DARPA. Now, does the good outweigh the bad? Do DARPA's"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:45", "text": "contributions offset the damage they've done? I don't know. That's not for me to judge. But this story reminds me of the"}, {"start": "00:44:45", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "courtroom scene in A Few Good Men. You can't handle the truth, right? When the colonel says, \"My"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives.\" You don't want the truth because deep"}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:03", "text": "down in places you don't talk about it, parties. You want me on that wall. You"}, {"start": "00:45:03", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "need me on that wall. Right. So, is DARPA a necessary evil? Is"}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "evil even the right word? I don't know. When DARPA was formed in 1958, its"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:20", "text": "mission was to make sure the United States was never again surprised by advanced technology. And for 66 years,"}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:25", "text": "DARPA has succeeded in its mission. The US has never been surprised by technology,"}, {"start": "00:45:25", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "except for the UFOs. Okay. The US has never been surprised by another country's technology."}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "Better. I can't forget all the suffering that DARPA has caused. But DARPA's done so"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:41", "text": "much good. Can I forgive? I don't know. I'm disgusted by some of DARPA's"}, {"start": "00:45:41", "end": "00:45:47", "text": "actions, by our government's corruption, by the fact that because of DARPA, bad"}, {"start": "00:45:47", "end": "00:45:54", "text": "people get rich from war. But if I'm being honest, which I always am with you, I have to acknowledge that"}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:46:00", "text": "as an American, we need DARPA on that wall."}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:25", "text": "3 + 1 5 plus 0 0. So, just to follow up on that Shawn Ryan clip, the very day I did his show and"}, {"start": "00:46:25", "end": "00:46:31", "text": "told him about that episode, he connected me with someone to help my father-in-law get all his benefits. That"}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:39", "text": "day, without me asking for help, just suddenly got a text, you know, call this number and you'll be taken care of. Cuz"}, {"start": "00:46:39", "end": "00:46:45", "text": "Sean is about as good of a guy as you'll find. And when I say good, I don't mean, yeah, he's a good guy. I mean he's a"}, {"start": "00:46:45", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "force for good in the world. And look, I know he's controversial for some people, but I met the man in person. I spent the"}, {"start": "00:46:51", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "whole day with him and he and his whole staff, his whole team, everybody there was gracious, kind, very complimentary."}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:05", "text": "They're all fans of the channel. Um, we had some great talks and debates about the moon landing and flat earth and all"}, {"start": "00:47:05", "end": "00:47:12", "text": "that stuff. I had a great day with the whole crew. So Sean Ryan is the real deal. Plus, I've been around shooters my"}, {"start": "00:47:12", "end": "00:47:20", "text": "whole life. I never seen anyone shoot like that. Anyway, checking the notes. Checking the notes. Okay. Oh, boy. We're"}, {"start": "00:47:20", "end": "00:47:26", "text": "going to keep it going with the dangerous topics. This next one is another one that was uh I was"}, {"start": "00:47:26", "end": "00:47:32", "text": "uncomfortable releasing. When I did the killer patents episode, I ended it with all the like the free"}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:39", "text": "energy inventors that like the hydrogen car guy. He got he said he was poisoned. He said"}, {"start": "00:47:39", "end": "00:47:44", "text": "his to his he is having he's having like lunch with investors to like finally"}, {"start": "00:47:44", "end": "00:47:50", "text": "take his his car ran on water. This is Stanley Meyer and uh he's not feeling"}, {"start": "00:47:50", "end": "00:47:57", "text": "well and he runs outside. He's like throwing up in the street and his his brother was his partner and and his brother what's going on. He's like I was"}, {"start": "00:47:57", "end": "00:48:04", "text": "poisoned and then he dies and that was the end of it. No more water car. Killer patents. The end of this one went viral."}, {"start": "00:48:04", "end": "00:48:09", "text": "See you in a minute. For decades, we've heard about the"}, {"start": "00:48:09", "end": "00:48:15", "text": "catastrophic effects of fossil fuel pollution. And for just as long, I've been hearing that global warming is a"}, {"start": "00:48:15", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "myth. The two sides are constantly at each other's throats. But it's a fight that's completely unnecessary. The"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:30", "text": "technology to create unlimited, clean, free energy has existed for over a 100red years. Dozens, perhaps hundreds"}, {"start": "00:48:30", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "of inventors have created machines that pull energy out of thin air. Machines that could defy gravity, levitate, and"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:43", "text": "fly. Machines that bend the fabric of spaceime itself. These machines sound"}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:49", "text": "not just like science fiction, they sound like magic. So where are these magical devices? Well, when the"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:58", "text": "inventors patented and publicized their technology, they performed another magic trick. They disappeared."}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "For years, certainly in my whole life, we've heard how fossil fuel pollution is creating a runaway greenhouse effect. At"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:21", "text": "some point, the ice caps will melt, the oceans will rise, and every coastline in the world will be underwater."}, {"start": "00:49:21", "end": "00:49:26", "text": "What now? When When does it happen? When do we go underwater? Well, that's hard to"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:33", "text": "5 years, 20, 50. You can't really quantify it. Oh, you can't quantify it."}, {"start": "00:49:33", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "Look, I don't want Is Florida still here? What do you mean? Let me talk slowly so you can"}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:45", "text": "understand. Is Florida still there? Last I checked, Florida is still there."}, {"start": "00:49:45", "end": "00:49:51", "text": "Thank you. I rest my case. Global warming is a myth. It's not a myth."}, {"start": "00:49:51", "end": "00:49:56", "text": "Look, this isn't a video about climate change. Oh, look. Global warming is not climate"}, {"start": "00:49:56", "end": "00:50:01", "text": "change. My point is, how dare you? Look, do you want clean air?"}, {"start": "00:50:01", "end": "00:50:07", "text": "Clean air? No. Who cares? Fine, but do you want clean water? Well, yeah,"}, {"start": "00:50:07", "end": "00:50:13", "text": "right. The point of this episode isn't to argue one side of the climate debate or the other. The point of this episode"}, {"start": "00:50:13", "end": "00:50:21", "text": "is that debating, arguing, and fighting about it isn't necessary and hasn't been for over a hundred years."}, {"start": "00:50:21", "end": "00:50:26", "text": "Since the 1920s and perhaps even earlier, scientists have discovered many"}, {"start": "00:50:26", "end": "00:50:33", "text": "different ways of making energy less expensive and more efficient. However, in every single case, their technology"}, {"start": "00:50:33", "end": "00:50:38", "text": "was suppressed. And in many cases, the inventors died"}, {"start": "00:50:38", "end": "00:50:45", "text": "under strange circumstances. Okay, you've got my attention now."}, {"start": "00:50:45", "end": "00:50:50", "text": "Charles Pogue was a Canadian mechanic and car tinkerer. In the early 1930s, he"}, {"start": "00:50:50", "end": "00:50:57", "text": "started experimenting with carburetors, trying to improve fuel efficiency. Now, if you're not a gear head, a carburetor"}, {"start": "00:50:57", "end": "00:51:03", "text": "is a part of a gas-powered engine that mixes air and fuel for combustion. The mixture is then sent to the engine"}, {"start": "00:51:03", "end": "00:51:09", "text": "cylinders where it's ignited to power the engine. Now, unlike traditional carburetors which mix air with liquid"}, {"start": "00:51:09", "end": "00:51:16", "text": "gasoline, the PO carburetor fully vaporized gas before it entered the combustion chamber. This made the engine"}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:23", "text": "more efficient, much more efficient. In 1936, Pogue was issued a patent for a"}, {"start": "00:51:23", "end": "00:51:31", "text": "high mileage carburetor. This was his third iteration of the invention and his third patent."}, {"start": "00:51:31", "end": "00:51:36", "text": "In early 1936, the Breen Motor Company tested the Pog carburetor on a Ford V8"}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "coupe. It got 26.2 m on one pint of gasoline. That's almost 220 m."}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:52", "text": "Ford tested it. They got 200 m per gallon. The Pogue carburetor was tested for Canadian Automotive magazine. They"}, {"start": "00:51:52", "end": "00:51:58", "text": "reported 218 miles per gallon. Now, that article created a lot of"}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:52:03", "text": "excitement, but it wasn't good news for Charles Pogue."}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:12", "text": "On the Toronto Stock Exchange, oil company stock prices crashed. Brokers were swamped with orders to dump all oil"}, {"start": "00:52:12", "end": "00:52:17", "text": "stock immediately. Soon after that, Pog shop was broken into. All carburetors,"}, {"start": "00:52:17", "end": "00:52:22", "text": "equipment, notes, and documents were stolen. He never built another one. He"}, {"start": "00:52:22", "end": "00:52:29", "text": "never spoke of the invention ever again. Someone got to him. That's the rumor. But carburetors aren't"}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:36", "text": "complicated. If one man figures out how to make an engine more efficient, others could do this, too. And they did. But"}, {"start": "00:52:36", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "the oil companies did not forget about Pogue and the damage he almost caused. Fuel efficient engines were not good for"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:49", "text": "business. So the oil companies lobbyed the US government for help. And a few years later in 1951,"}, {"start": "00:52:49", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "help arrived."}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:05", "text": "The concept of patents can be traced back to ancient times, but the formal patent system that we know today came"}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:11", "text": "from Renaissance Europe. The first known patent law was enacted in Venice in 1474 and it was a"}, {"start": "00:53:11", "end": "00:53:18", "text": "revolutionary idea designed to encourage innovation. It offered inventors a temporary monopoly in exchange for"}, {"start": "00:53:18", "end": "00:53:24", "text": "sharing their inventions with society. But some inventions are legally patented"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:31", "text": "and hidden from society. In 1951, the United States passed the"}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:37", "text": "Invention Secrecy Act. This allows the US government to keep certain technologies and inventions secret"}, {"start": "00:53:37", "end": "00:53:43", "text": "legally. If they decide something threatens the country's economy or security, it's stamped with a secrecy"}, {"start": "00:53:43", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "order and classified. The inventor can't speak about it, export it, or sell it, unless it's to"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "the US military. Yeah, of course. If the inventor violates these orders, they face imprisonment or, as we're"}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "about to see, consequences that are even worse."}, {"start": "00:54:02", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "In the 1970s, Tom Ogle accidentally discovered a way to make an engine run"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:13", "text": "on its own fumes. I was messing around with a lawn mower"}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:19", "text": "when I accidentally knocked a hole in its fuel tank. I put a vacuum line running from the tank straight into the"}, {"start": "00:54:19", "end": "00:54:24", "text": "carburetor inlet. I just let it run and it kept running and running, but the"}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:31", "text": "fuel level stayed the same. I got excited. The lawn mower was running without a carburetor and was getting"}, {"start": "00:54:31", "end": "00:54:37", "text": "tremendous efficiency. That mower ran for 96 straight hours."}, {"start": "00:54:37", "end": "00:54:43", "text": "Wow. Now, after a few months of trial and error, Ogle replicated his invention"}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:49", "text": "with his own car. His 1970 Ford Galaxy got 11 mp gallon, but after a few"}, {"start": "00:54:49", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "modifications, it got 100 m per gallon. In April 1977, Ogle drove the 4,000lb"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:55:03", "text": "car 205 mi on just two gallons of gas. Engineers inspected the car for hidden"}, {"start": "00:55:03", "end": "00:55:10", "text": "gas tanks and other gimmicks, but nothing was found. His technology worked."}, {"start": "00:55:10", "end": "00:55:17", "text": "Ogle made the internal combustion engine do what it was designed to do, operate on fumes. He accidentally invented a"}, {"start": "00:55:17", "end": "00:55:22", "text": "version of Pog's carburetor. Almost overnight, 24year-old Tom Ogle"}, {"start": "00:55:22", "end": "00:55:29", "text": "became an engineering sensation. Oil companies, investors, and businessmen approached him with offers. People"}, {"start": "00:55:29", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "expected him to become a billionaire. Shell Oil offered him $25 million cash"}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:41", "text": "for the design. Ogle passed when he found out they intended to hide the invention forever."}, {"start": "00:55:41", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "I've always wanted to be rich, and I suspect I will be when this system gets into distribution, but I'm not going to"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:53", "text": "have my system bought up and put on the shelf. So Tom struck deals with investors who"}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:56:00", "text": "would let him control the invention and keep working. He filed for and received a patent. He had attorneys, money, all"}, {"start": "00:56:00", "end": "00:56:07", "text": "kinds of resources. Then the United States Air Force showed interest. Uh-oh. And that's when things went"}, {"start": "00:56:07", "end": "00:56:12", "text": "downhill. Downhill? Yep."}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:20", "text": "Suddenly, the SEC was after him for violating securities laws. The IRS was after him for failing to pay back taxes."}, {"start": "00:56:20", "end": "00:56:27", "text": "The next few months were a mess. Ogle's wife left him and took their daughter. Legal battles were everywhere. Investors"}, {"start": "00:56:27", "end": "00:56:33", "text": "were fighting for control of the patent. Then on April 14th, 1978, Ogle was shot"}, {"start": "00:56:33", "end": "00:56:39", "text": "by a stranger outside a bar. No suspect, but he survived."}, {"start": "00:56:39", "end": "00:56:44", "text": "But not for long. No, not for long."}, {"start": "00:56:44", "end": "00:56:50", "text": "On August 18th, he went to a friend's apartment where he collapsed and died. His death, which involved painkillers"}, {"start": "00:56:50", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "and alcohol, was ruled an accidental overdose. Though Tom Ogle had no history of drug use, Ogle's friends, family, and"}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:04", "text": "attorney claimed this was a cover up for murder. But the damage was done. Tom Ogle was"}, {"start": "00:57:04", "end": "00:57:12", "text": "gone, and his invention, despite the overwhelming evidence that it worked, was conveniently forgotten. Later that"}, {"start": "00:57:12", "end": "00:57:17", "text": "year, the US and Saudi Arabia negotiated the United States Saudi Arabian Joint"}, {"start": "00:57:17", "end": "00:57:24", "text": "Commission on Economic Cooperation. They agreed to use US dollars for oil contracts. The petro dollar became the"}, {"start": "00:57:24", "end": "00:57:29", "text": "de facto currency of the world that day. This made the US government much more"}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:36", "text": "powerful and made oil companies richer than ever. A few years later, Lieutenant Colonel Charles Brown, a former member"}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:42", "text": "of Project Blue Book, made a similar invention. He created a device that attached to the air intake of a vehicle,"}, {"start": "00:57:42", "end": "00:57:49", "text": "reducing emissions by 50 to 70%. And increasing miles per gallon."}, {"start": "00:57:49", "end": "00:57:55", "text": "I treat air and out of air. I make it more than just providing oxygen for the"}, {"start": "00:57:55", "end": "00:58:01", "text": "combustion process. There are combustion stimulating molecules and radicals"}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:07", "text": "generated in this process. Thunderstorm in a bottle. Now, even"}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:14", "text": "though the colonel's invention reduced emissions and cleaned the air, the EPA shut him down."}, {"start": "00:58:14", "end": "00:58:20", "text": "Environmental Protection Agency is a bit of a dictatorial police agency."}, {"start": "00:58:20", "end": "00:58:28", "text": "They call themselves a protecting agency, but they are police agency. EPA cannot approve a fuels saving device."}, {"start": "00:58:28", "end": "00:58:36", "text": "They put out reams of documentation stating that something will not work."}, {"start": "00:58:36", "end": "00:58:44", "text": "Soon after he received bomb threats, his lab was vandalized and everything was stolen. He lost his life savings and his"}, {"start": "00:58:44", "end": "00:58:51", "text": "work was stopped. Like Charles Pogue and Tom Ogle, Colonel Brown took his technology to his grave. These"}, {"start": "00:58:51", "end": "00:58:58", "text": "inventions still used gasoline and oil. They didn't necessarily threaten the fossil fuel industry, yet the government"}, {"start": "00:58:58", "end": "00:59:05", "text": "or someone still shut them down. She can only imagine what happens when you invent a car that doesn't need gas at"}, {"start": "00:59:05", "end": "00:59:08", "text": "all."}, {"start": "00:59:13", "end": "00:59:20", "text": "The top news here at 6:00, an age-old dream becoming a reality. A local inventor has discovered a way, hear"}, {"start": "00:59:20", "end": "00:59:28", "text": "this, to use water to run your car. Says the answer to dependence on foreign oil lies all around us. A car that runs"}, {"start": "00:59:28", "end": "00:59:33", "text": "on water instead of gasoline. The man who invented an engine that can run on water."}, {"start": "00:59:33", "end": "00:59:39", "text": "Any kind of H2O, he says, can power just about every type. He's come up with a device that will"}, {"start": "00:59:39", "end": "00:59:44", "text": "hook up to any engine and allow it to run on good old H2O. Stanley Meyer."}, {"start": "00:59:44", "end": "00:59:51", "text": "Stanley has been offered a billion dollars in cash by oil producing countries to sell his patent. So far, he"}, {"start": "00:59:51", "end": "00:59:57", "text": "hasn't sold. Stanley Meyer did not keep his invention"}, {"start": "00:59:57", "end": "01:00:04", "text": "secret. He went straight to the news. His announcement made headlines across the country and around the world. He had"}, {"start": "01:00:04", "end": "01:00:09", "text": "invented a car that can run on nothing but water. The technology is called"}, {"start": "01:00:09", "end": "01:00:16", "text": "electrolysis. This is using electricity to split water into oxygen and hydrogen gas. Now, this isn't a new invention. In"}, {"start": "01:00:16", "end": "01:00:23", "text": "1789, Jan Rudolph Diamond used an electrostatic machine to generate electricity from water that was then"}, {"start": "01:00:23", "end": "01:00:29", "text": "discharged to gold electrodes. And throughout the 19th century, various inventors and scientists created"}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:36", "text": "machines that could split water into oxygen and hydrogen. But there are a few problems."}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:41", "text": "The process requires a lot of energy and it requires perfectly pure water. No"}, {"start": "01:00:41", "end": "01:00:48", "text": "minerals, no chemicals, nothing. It has to be nothing but H2O. It's very hard to produce pure water. Not only do you need"}, {"start": "01:00:48", "end": "01:00:56", "text": "pure water for electrolysis, you need lots of it. Stanley Meyer's engine didn't require much water at all. Stan"}, {"start": "01:00:56", "end": "01:01:02", "text": "estimated that if he took his water powered car from coast to coast in the US, it would use only 22 gall of water."}, {"start": "01:01:02", "end": "01:01:09", "text": "And the biggest breakthrough, it didn't need pure water. It could run on ordinary tap water. He called his"}, {"start": "01:01:09", "end": "01:01:16", "text": "invention a water fuel cell injector. The injector breaks water molecules into oxygen and hydrogen. The engine runs on"}, {"start": "01:01:16", "end": "01:01:24", "text": "hydrogen gas. He took his car on tour around the country. Engineers inspected it and they said it worked."}, {"start": "01:01:24", "end": "01:01:29", "text": "We recently took a scientific delegation to witness Stan's work to really"}, {"start": "01:01:29", "end": "01:01:36", "text": "evaluate it and came back saying this is one of the most important inventions of the century. The century"}, {"start": "01:01:36", "end": "01:01:43", "text": "Stan's tour got a lot of media coverage. This led to offers from investors and oil companies and even the Pentagon."}, {"start": "01:01:43", "end": "01:01:49", "text": "Pentagon? Well, let me guess. That's when things went downhill. Yep."}, {"start": "01:01:49", "end": "01:01:54", "text": "Oh, no. In 1998, Stan was at a restaurant with"}, {"start": "01:01:54", "end": "01:02:00", "text": "his brother and a few Belgian investors. They were about to sign a multi-million dollar deal, so they raised their"}, {"start": "01:02:00", "end": "01:02:07", "text": "glasses and made a toast to celebrate. Then, Stan suddenly became violently ill. He ran out of the restaurant, fell"}, {"start": "01:02:07", "end": "01:02:13", "text": "down in the street, and started vomiting. His brother ran after him. Stan's final words were, \"They poisoned"}, {"start": "01:02:13", "end": "01:02:18", "text": "me.\" But his death certificate doesn't reflect that at all. It says he was at"}, {"start": "01:02:18", "end": "01:02:24", "text": "lunch with officials from NATO and that he died of a brain aneurysm."}, {"start": "01:02:24", "end": "01:02:29", "text": "But if you read this statement, you can kind of tell that the coroner was"}, {"start": "01:02:29", "end": "01:02:34", "text": "already questioning whether he was actually poisoned or not. and and and just"}, {"start": "01:02:34", "end": "01:02:40", "text": "dismissed being poisoned as such a blatant uh lie and not true. Um I think"}, {"start": "01:02:40", "end": "01:02:47", "text": "a brain aneurysm is a very convenient way for somebody to die and if they were poisoned that can cause that can cause"}, {"start": "01:02:47", "end": "01:02:53", "text": "that. Now lots of people have heard of Stanley Meyer's water car. But what most people don't know is that the water powered"}, {"start": "01:02:53", "end": "01:02:59", "text": "engine wasn't the only disruptive invention in Stan's garage. He also had a tooid shaped"}, {"start": "01:02:59", "end": "01:03:04", "text": "donut shaped He had a donut-shaped electromagnetic device slapped with a national security"}, {"start": "01:03:04", "end": "01:03:12", "text": "order. Even in my prior development of high technology, I've had patents taken from"}, {"start": "01:03:12", "end": "01:03:17", "text": "me. I learned from the school of hard knocks to be very cautious to be very cautious to be very cautious to be very"}, {"start": "01:03:17", "end": "01:03:24", "text": "cautious. He was paranoid and rightfully so. And that's why if you try to replicate the technology in Stan Meyer's patent, it"}, {"start": "01:03:24", "end": "01:03:30", "text": "won't work. He faked the voltage and frequency numbers to prevent another invention from being stolen or"}, {"start": "01:03:30", "end": "01:03:37", "text": "classified. But skeptics say it doesn't matter what numbers you use, the engine won't work. They say Stan's technology"}, {"start": "01:03:37", "end": "01:03:44", "text": "broke the second law of thermodynamics that states that every time you transfer energy, energy is wasted. Stan's engine"}, {"start": "01:03:44", "end": "01:03:51", "text": "didn't waste energy at all. It created it. But that also violates the first law of thermodynamics, the conservation of"}, {"start": "01:03:51", "end": "01:03:58", "text": "energy that states that energy cannot be created or destroyed. But what if those laws are completely"}, {"start": "01:03:58", "end": "01:04:06", "text": "misunderstood? That with the right technology, the laws of thermodynamics don't have to apply at all. Mainstream"}, {"start": "01:04:06", "end": "01:04:12", "text": "science doesn't like that idea. Mainstream science can go pound. Well, turns out that Stan's water car"}, {"start": "01:04:12", "end": "01:04:19", "text": "was his least important invention. That doughnut-shaped device was another invention that created energy. And the"}, {"start": "01:04:19", "end": "01:04:28", "text": "reason it was classified, well, it didn't run on gas. It didn't run on water. It ran on nothing."}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:40", "text": "The vacuum of space is supposed to be empty and at the temperature of absolute zero, it should be perfectly still. But"}, {"start": "01:04:40", "end": "01:04:46", "text": "quantum physicists discovered that empty space is not empty or still at all."}, {"start": "01:04:46", "end": "01:04:52", "text": "Is that uh so-called empty space isn't really empty at all. It's actually full"}, {"start": "01:04:52", "end": "01:04:58", "text": "of energy. So instead of being like kind of a quiet empty lake, it's more like the froth at the base of a waterfall or"}, {"start": "01:04:58", "end": "01:05:03", "text": "something. Now we've all been taught that in an atom electrons orbit the nucleus like"}, {"start": "01:05:03", "end": "01:05:10", "text": "planets orbit the sun. And in a vacuum with no resistance, the orbits of electrons should be"}, {"start": "01:05:10", "end": "01:05:16", "text": "predictable, but they're not. In 1955, Willis Lamb won the Nobel Prize for"}, {"start": "01:05:16", "end": "01:05:23", "text": "discovering what's become known as the Lamb shift. Now, in simple terms, Lamb discovered that electrons and hydrogen"}, {"start": "01:05:23", "end": "01:05:28", "text": "atoms were being disturbed by something. He discovered complex interactions"}, {"start": "01:05:28", "end": "01:05:33", "text": "between the electron and the vacuum of space itself. Space is teeming with"}, {"start": "01:05:33", "end": "01:05:43", "text": "quantum particles that blink in and out of existence. And when they do that, they use and create energy, a lot of it."}, {"start": "01:05:43", "end": "01:05:50", "text": "But when you go to look at the numbers, you find out that there's enough energy in the volume of a coffee cup to"}, {"start": "01:05:50", "end": "01:05:56", "text": "evaporate all the world's oceans that you could get at all of it. Enough energy to boil and evaporate all"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:06:01", "text": "the oceans on Earth from a coffee cup of empty space. This energy is called 0"}, {"start": "01:06:01", "end": "01:06:06", "text": "point energy and it's generated from the 0 point"}, {"start": "01:06:06", "end": "01:06:12", "text": "field. Nicola Tesla, Nikolai Kazerev and other scientists called this field the"}, {"start": "01:06:12", "end": "01:06:17", "text": "ether. The ether is a field in which everything exists but it exists in a"}, {"start": "01:06:17", "end": "01:06:24", "text": "dimension that our brains can't perceive. Particles blinking in and out of existence have to be coming from and"}, {"start": "01:06:24", "end": "01:06:29", "text": "going somewhere. That place is the ether, the base layer of reality. But"}, {"start": "01:06:29", "end": "01:06:35", "text": "even though we can't see it, this layer can be disrupted with electromagnetism."}, {"start": "01:06:36", "end": "01:06:42", "text": "Tesla famously said, \"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency, and"}, {"start": "01:06:42", "end": "01:06:48", "text": "vibration.\" He tried to harness energy from the 0oint field using the tower he built on"}, {"start": "01:06:48", "end": "01:06:55", "text": "Long Island. Tesla link below. Now, Tesla's Warden Cliff Tower tapped"}, {"start": "01:06:55", "end": "01:07:02", "text": "into this endless supply of energy. The tower was considered an overunity device. And overunity is when something"}, {"start": "01:07:02", "end": "01:07:09", "text": "gives out more energy than is put in. Now mainstream science claims this is impossible again because it breaks the"}, {"start": "01:07:09", "end": "01:07:16", "text": "second law of thermodynamics. But for over a hundred years, scientists and inventors have proved that claim"}, {"start": "01:07:16", "end": "01:07:21", "text": "wrong. 0oint energy devices also violate the conservation of energy. That energy"}, {"start": "01:07:21", "end": "01:07:28", "text": "can't be created or destroyed. But those inventors don't claim to be creating energy from nothing. They are tapping"}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:34", "text": "into the energy that already exists everywhere all around us."}, {"start": "01:07:34", "end": "01:07:40", "text": "In the 1970s, Howard Johnson created the magnetron motor. It used hydrogen magnets, light rays, and fusion to"}, {"start": "01:07:40", "end": "01:07:48", "text": "create electricity. Now, according to practical physics, his invention was impossible. But here's the thing. His"}, {"start": "01:07:48", "end": "01:07:53", "text": "motor worked, and he proved it over and over again. Still, he was denied a"}, {"start": "01:07:53", "end": "01:08:00", "text": "patent. The dilemma facing Johnson is not really his dilemma, but rather that of other"}, {"start": "01:08:00", "end": "01:08:06", "text": "scientists who have observed his prototypes. The devices obviously do work, but the textbooks say they"}, {"start": "01:08:06", "end": "01:08:14", "text": "shouldn't. Johnson is saying to the scientific community that this is a phenomenon that seems to contradict some"}, {"start": "01:08:14", "end": "01:08:20", "text": "of our traditional beliefs. For all our sakes, let's not dismiss it outright,"}, {"start": "01:08:20", "end": "01:08:26", "text": "but take the time to understand the complex forces at work here. Johnson didn't get his patent and was"}, {"start": "01:08:26", "end": "01:08:33", "text": "shunned by the scientific community. Now, Howard Johnson wasn't a weekend garage tinkerer. He was a government"}, {"start": "01:08:33", "end": "01:08:39", "text": "contractor. He worked on atomic energy projects. He made equipment for the military. He already had over 30 patents"}, {"start": "01:08:39", "end": "01:08:45", "text": "for chemistry and physics devices. Science and physicists are especially"}, {"start": "01:08:45", "end": "01:08:52", "text": "determined to protect the law of conservation of energy. Thus, the physicists become game wardens"}, {"start": "01:08:52", "end": "01:09:03", "text": "who tell us what laws we can't violate. In this case, they don't even know what the game is. But they are so scared."}, {"start": "01:09:03", "end": "01:09:10", "text": "Johnson's motor would lose less than 2% efficiency in almost 20 years of continuous operation. But he stopped"}, {"start": "01:09:10", "end": "01:09:16", "text": "working when someone broke into his shop and stole his equipment. He got the message."}, {"start": "01:09:16", "end": "01:09:23", "text": "Thomas Morray also invented a device that could tap into the zero point field. His machine could generate 50,000"}, {"start": "01:09:23", "end": "01:09:30", "text": "watts of power with no energy input. Another invention that broke the laws of physics. Marray tried to patent his"}, {"start": "01:09:30", "end": "01:09:36", "text": "invention. He was denied. They told him there's no such thing as free energy, but still the US government was"}, {"start": "01:09:36", "end": "01:09:43", "text": "interested. Yeah. And that's when things go downhill. Yep. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:09:44", "end": "01:09:51", "text": "His lab was vandalized and robbed. He and his family survived multiple assassination attempts. It got so bad he"}, {"start": "01:09:51", "end": "01:09:58", "text": "bulletproofed his own car. Now, despite the ongoing threats, Marray publicly demonstrated the success of his machine"}, {"start": "01:09:58", "end": "01:10:03", "text": "in 1940. It continuously produced an output of 250,000"}, {"start": "01:10:03", "end": "01:10:09", "text": "volts with no input. Well, that was the last straw. The next"}, {"start": "01:10:09", "end": "01:10:14", "text": "day, someone broke into his lab and attacked him. He only survived because at this point, he was carrying a pistol"}, {"start": "01:10:14", "end": "01:10:19", "text": "everywhere. But it didn't matter. Mar's assistant turned on him and"}, {"start": "01:10:19", "end": "01:10:25", "text": "destroyed everything. Equipment that would be worth millions today. Officially, Moray's assistant went"}, {"start": "01:10:25", "end": "01:10:33", "text": "crazy. But it sounds like somebody got to him. Moray died broke and he took his technology to the grave."}, {"start": "01:10:33", "end": "01:10:41", "text": "Edwin Gray had a similar story. Gray created an electromagnetic motor that ran continuously on its own power. And"}, {"start": "01:10:41", "end": "01:10:47", "text": "like all 0 point devices, it didn't generate heat. The input was 26.8 W. The"}, {"start": "01:10:47", "end": "01:10:52", "text": "output over 7,000 W. Gray's machine was tested and verified by multiple"}, {"start": "01:10:52", "end": "01:10:58", "text": "scientists. Gray started developing this idea 8 years ago. For the past year and a half,"}, {"start": "01:10:58", "end": "01:11:05", "text": "he's been trying to get someone in the US government interested. So far, he's had a little luck. Yeah. After he contacted the government."}, {"start": "01:11:05", "end": "01:11:12", "text": "Let me see. Uh, things went downhill, right? Yep. Uh-huh."}, {"start": "01:11:12", "end": "01:11:19", "text": "Within a week, local authorities performed an illegal raid on Gray's lab. They confiscated everything."}, {"start": "01:11:19", "end": "01:11:25", "text": "Not long after that, Gray was found dead in his home. All his records, inventions, and materials vanished"}, {"start": "01:11:25", "end": "01:11:30", "text": "without a trace. Now, most of these inventions were from"}, {"start": "01:11:30", "end": "01:11:37", "text": "the turn of the 20th century, over a 100 years ago. Imagine the progress we could have made if this technology survived"}, {"start": "01:11:37", "end": "01:11:43", "text": "and the world had free energy this whole time. But that's the thing. These stories happened so long ago that it's"}, {"start": "01:11:43", "end": "01:11:48", "text": "difficult to picture them as anything more than stories. I know you want to see video of one of these things"}, {"start": "01:11:48", "end": "01:11:54", "text": "operating. You want to see light bulbs and motors turning without wires and without plugs. You want to see one of"}, {"start": "01:11:54", "end": "01:12:00", "text": "these zero point machines for yourself, don't you? You got it."}, {"start": "01:12:07", "end": "01:12:13", "text": "Floyd was nicknamed Sparky because he was fascinated with electricity. He dreamed of a device that could take"}, {"start": "01:12:13", "end": "01:12:20", "text": "energy from the vacuum of space. So, after retiring in the 1980s, he made"}, {"start": "01:12:20", "end": "01:12:26", "text": "one. He called it a vacuum triode amplifier or VTA."}, {"start": "01:12:26", "end": "01:12:33", "text": "So we have a 120 volt fan. As you can see, it's turning at good power. It is"}, {"start": "01:12:33", "end": "01:12:38", "text": "providing quite a breeze and it's real usable power."}, {"start": "01:12:38", "end": "01:12:44", "text": "Sparky's machine could do more than operate a fan. He fed it 0.3 m and"}, {"start": "01:12:44", "end": "01:12:50", "text": "produced almost 224,000 watts. This was continuous ondemand"}, {"start": "01:12:50", "end": "01:12:56", "text": "power. If you attach more equipment, it would simply harness more power. No limit."}, {"start": "01:12:56", "end": "01:13:03", "text": "And here is just coming into view. You see five 100 W lamps. Ordinary"}, {"start": "01:13:03", "end": "01:13:08", "text": "garden variety household lamps, brilliantly lit."}, {"start": "01:13:08", "end": "01:13:14", "text": "So there's 500 watts of very real power here. Again, coming right out of the"}, {"start": "01:13:14", "end": "01:13:21", "text": "vacuum. 224,000 watts from a box about the size of a deck of cards. That's enough to"}, {"start": "01:13:21", "end": "01:13:28", "text": "power your house, recharge your electric car, or light up a baseball field. It doesn't matter what you connect. The"}, {"start": "01:13:28", "end": "01:13:38", "text": "0oint field will give you all the power you need. This is real usable power. It's stable."}, {"start": "01:13:38", "end": "01:13:45", "text": "It is not transient. It is not noise. And it is not any other kind of spirious"}, {"start": "01:13:45", "end": "01:13:53", "text": "effect. This is a real effect. It's all coming from that little tiny box"}, {"start": "01:13:53", "end": "01:14:00", "text": "sitting behind the 500 watts of power behind the lamps."}, {"start": "01:14:00", "end": "01:14:06", "text": "That little box is putting out all of that power,"}, {"start": "01:14:06", "end": "01:14:12", "text": "well over 500 watts, and yet it is receiving less than 1/3 of"}, {"start": "01:14:12", "end": "01:14:18", "text": "a mill of input power. So, Sparky filed a patent."}, {"start": "01:14:18", "end": "01:14:23", "text": "Uh-oh. Yep. You know how this goes. Well, at the grocery store, a"}, {"start": "01:14:23", "end": "01:14:29", "text": "well-dressed man approached Sparky and showed him a photograph. It was a picture of Sparky and his wife in their"}, {"start": "01:14:29", "end": "01:14:37", "text": "house taken from outside. Someone had been watching them. He walked me all the way to my building,"}, {"start": "01:14:37", "end": "01:14:42", "text": "telling me what would happen to me if I didn't stop my research. How they took that picture through my"}, {"start": "01:14:42", "end": "01:14:49", "text": "window, I'll never know. Sparky reported the incident to the FBI. Oh, that's like the hens calling the"}, {"start": "01:14:49", "end": "01:14:56", "text": "wolf for help. It was. Things got worse. Sparky and his wife started getting"}, {"start": "01:14:56", "end": "01:15:03", "text": "harassed. Their phone rang hundreds of times a day from payoneses all over the country. The call stopped when someone"}, {"start": "01:15:03", "end": "01:15:10", "text": "broke into Sparky's lab and stole his notes. Then one night, two men stopped by to speak to Sparky and his wife. The"}, {"start": "01:15:10", "end": "01:15:17", "text": "men left and about an hour later, Sparky collapsed. Frantic, his wife called an ambulance."}, {"start": "01:15:17", "end": "01:15:22", "text": "But when they loaded Sparky, they refused to let his wife in the ambulance. 20 minutes later, she got a"}, {"start": "01:15:22", "end": "01:15:29", "text": "call. Sparky was dead. Heart attack. Less than 24 hours later, a few black"}, {"start": "01:15:29", "end": "01:15:36", "text": "vans showed up at the house. The FBI confiscated all Sparky's equipment and research, and that's the last we've"}, {"start": "01:15:36", "end": "01:15:41", "text": "heard about it. But Sparky's VTA did more than create unlimited power. It"}, {"start": "01:15:41", "end": "01:15:46", "text": "could levitate. A retired Army officer and nuclear physicist named Tom Bearden"}, {"start": "01:15:46", "end": "01:15:53", "text": "met with Sparky. He was intrigued by the VTA's potential. Bearden asked Sparky to do an anti-gravity experiment with it"}, {"start": "01:15:53", "end": "01:16:01", "text": "and it worked. The VTA weighed about 6 lb. They reduced the weight of it by 90%. According to Bearden's theory,"}, {"start": "01:16:01", "end": "01:16:07", "text": "gravity can become a pushing force rather than a pulling force. And that's exactly what the VTA did. 0 point"}, {"start": "01:16:07", "end": "01:16:14", "text": "energy, anti-gravity. Now, if this sounds like UFO technology, that's because it is. Richard Dodie says 0"}, {"start": "01:16:14", "end": "01:16:21", "text": "point energy devices have been recovered from UFOs and they operate a lot like Sparky's VTA."}, {"start": "01:16:21", "end": "01:16:26", "text": "What this was was an energy device that uh that used the zero point energy."}, {"start": "01:16:26", "end": "01:16:33", "text": "That's what they referred it to as 0 point energy. And it was connected in such a manner that this device could"}, {"start": "01:16:33", "end": "01:16:40", "text": "power I mean from very small uh flatch"}, {"start": "01:16:40", "end": "01:16:46", "text": "up to a city and and the u uh power was"}, {"start": "01:16:46", "end": "01:16:51", "text": "determined by what the demand on it was. So each and so each craft had one of these."}, {"start": "01:16:51", "end": "01:16:58", "text": "Anti-gravity technology is another reality that's been suppressed for years. And researching anti-gravity,"}, {"start": "01:16:58", "end": "01:17:05", "text": "even for the US government, is very, very dangerous."}, {"start": "01:17:09", "end": "01:17:16", "text": "According to multiple inventors, many of which are now dead, alien technology might not be so alien after all. Italian"}, {"start": "01:17:16", "end": "01:17:23", "text": "researcher Johnny Doto created a large ring to go around the human body. Its purpose was to alter DNA to reverse"}, {"start": "01:17:23", "end": "01:17:30", "text": "aging. Now made of heavy copper, the dot ring manipulates the magnetic field around a human body using gravity and"}, {"start": "01:17:30", "end": "01:17:37", "text": "frequency. It was inspired by the Hanza Valley in Pakistan where people rarely get sick"}, {"start": "01:17:37", "end": "01:17:44", "text": "and routinely live for over 100 years. Now most researchers say their longevity is because of exercise and a healthy"}, {"start": "01:17:44", "end": "01:17:49", "text": "diet. But do had a different theory."}, {"start": "01:17:49", "end": "01:17:56", "text": "He said the extreme heat from the valley and the cold from the nearby glacier created a magnetic anomaly in the area."}, {"start": "01:17:56", "end": "01:18:01", "text": "This protects DNA and slows the aging process. The dot ring was even tested at"}, {"start": "01:18:01", "end": "01:18:09", "text": "Sloan Ketering Hospital. It successfully lengthened the subject's telomeres, the part of our DNA that shortens as we age."}, {"start": "01:18:09", "end": "01:18:15", "text": "The ring worked and just like Sparky's device, Doto's device could levitate."}, {"start": "01:18:15", "end": "01:18:22", "text": "Then the FDA became involved and everything went downhill. Yep. They shut down Doto's research. Not"}, {"start": "01:18:22", "end": "01:18:27", "text": "long after that, Doto was hit by a car that ran over him multiple times. The"}, {"start": "01:18:27", "end": "01:18:33", "text": "levitating age reversing Doto ring vanished."}, {"start": "01:18:35", "end": "01:18:41", "text": "Tons and Brown used a high voltage and electromagnetic field to create a lift effect. This allowed an object to move"}, {"start": "01:18:41", "end": "01:18:47", "text": "at high speeds free of the force of gravity. Brown made a flying saucer."}, {"start": "01:18:47", "end": "01:18:53", "text": "As with many other promising inventions developed during the Cold War years, the National Secrecy Act prevented"}, {"start": "01:18:53", "end": "01:19:00", "text": "scientists like Tettowns and Brown from commercializing or even publicizing any technology which could potentially be"}, {"start": "01:19:00", "end": "01:19:06", "text": "interpreted as having a military application. Anti-gravity or anti-gravidic technology"}, {"start": "01:19:06", "end": "01:19:12", "text": "was popular in the 1950s. The United States and Canadian governments were both working on anti-gravidic"}, {"start": "01:19:12", "end": "01:19:19", "text": "technology. They farmed this work out to well-known aerospace companies like Loheed Martin, Convair, Bell, and Lear."}, {"start": "01:19:19", "end": "01:19:26", "text": "The research was actually out in the open and created a buzz. People were excited about the new G engines and how"}, {"start": "01:19:26", "end": "01:19:31", "text": "this technology would revolutionize traveling. They talked about how everyone could have a flying car."}, {"start": "01:19:31", "end": "01:19:39", "text": "Airplanes wouldn't need any fuel to fly. This is one of the last public mentions of anti-gravity technology."}, {"start": "01:19:39", "end": "01:19:44", "text": "Lawrence D. Bell, the famous builder of the rocket research plane, says, \"We're"}, {"start": "01:19:44", "end": "01:19:49", "text": "already working with nuclear fuels and equipment to cancel out gravity.\" And"}, {"start": "01:19:49", "end": "01:19:55", "text": "William Lear, the autopilot wizard, is already figuring out gravity control for"}, {"start": "01:19:55", "end": "01:20:00", "text": "the weightless craft to come. According to the gravity research engineers, the G"}, {"start": "01:20:00", "end": "01:20:07", "text": "engine will replace all other motors."}, {"start": "01:20:07", "end": "01:20:12", "text": "After that, everything went dark. So, what happened? What happened was the"}, {"start": "01:20:12", "end": "01:20:18", "text": "military contractors got anti-gravity to work and they wanted the technology all"}, {"start": "01:20:18", "end": "01:20:25", "text": "to themselves. After working at the center for space plasma and aeronomic research, Dr. Ning"}, {"start": "01:20:25", "end": "01:20:32", "text": "Lee started her own anti-gravity research company, AC Gravity. In the early 1990s, she published research"}, {"start": "01:20:32", "end": "01:20:38", "text": "papers on anti-gravity. This drew attention from the US government and then everything went downhill."}, {"start": "01:20:38", "end": "01:20:43", "text": "Yep. In 2001, Ning Lee received a grant from the US Department of Defense for"}, {"start": "01:20:43", "end": "01:20:51", "text": "over $400,000 to continue anti-gravitic research. Then Ning Lee disappeared."}, {"start": "01:20:51", "end": "01:20:56", "text": "Now, some people think she returned to China to work for them, but others say she was caught up with her work at the"}, {"start": "01:20:56", "end": "01:21:02", "text": "DoD. Some family members recall that she seemed extremely stressed during that time. She used to love her research, but"}, {"start": "01:21:02", "end": "01:21:08", "text": "she did not like working for the DoD. But in 2014, 13 years later, Ning Lee"}, {"start": "01:21:08", "end": "01:21:14", "text": "reappeared out of nowhere. I didn't see that coming. And then she was hit by a car. Dad, I saw it coming."}, {"start": "01:21:14", "end": "01:21:20", "text": "She suffered permanent brain damage. Ning Le's whereabouts during those missing years is still a mystery, but my"}, {"start": "01:21:20", "end": "01:21:31", "text": "guess is the Department of Defense knows exactly where she was, but they'll never tell, and nobody's going to ask."}, {"start": "01:21:36", "end": "01:21:41", "text": "free, clean, unlimited energy, anti-gravity, science fiction technology"}, {"start": "01:21:41", "end": "01:21:47", "text": "that some people claim is real. But is it? Well, search Google and Wikipedia,"}, {"start": "01:21:47", "end": "01:21:54", "text": "and they'll list most of these inventors as charlatans, liars, and frauds. Of course, that's what they say. They're"}, {"start": "01:21:54", "end": "01:22:02", "text": "in the pocket of the shadow government. I can't argue with that. So, let's go through a few. Stan Meyer, the man who"}, {"start": "01:22:02", "end": "01:22:08", "text": "invented the water- powered car, receives a lot of scrutiny, probably because his story is so wellnown. Now,"}, {"start": "01:22:08", "end": "01:22:15", "text": "despite his claim of being poisoned, doctors said his cause of death was a brain aneurysm. Now, some poisons can"}, {"start": "01:22:15", "end": "01:22:21", "text": "cause an aneurysm, but his toxicology report showed no poison. Fake report."}, {"start": "01:22:21", "end": "01:22:27", "text": "Well, his family thought so. Morray, Gray, Sparky, Ogle, and Johnson. They"}, {"start": "01:22:27", "end": "01:22:33", "text": "all had patented inventions that garnered the attention of powerful people, and they were all victims of"}, {"start": "01:22:33", "end": "01:22:40", "text": "violence. Some of them were no-name backyard inventors who happened to be good at electronics, but many were"}, {"start": "01:22:40", "end": "01:22:46", "text": "engineers or physicists with impressive credentials, and there's a lot of evidence to support their stories."}, {"start": "01:22:46", "end": "01:22:54", "text": "Honestly, I covered just the most well-known inventors. There are many many more and most of them also died"}, {"start": "01:22:54", "end": "01:23:02", "text": "under mysterious circumstances and in almost every case their technology was seized and classified."}, {"start": "01:23:02", "end": "01:23:09", "text": "Now despite the evidence of these inventions working and the reality of quantum physics there's a tremendous"}, {"start": "01:23:09", "end": "01:23:14", "text": "amount of push back about zero point or alternate energy. Why? Mainstream"}, {"start": "01:23:14", "end": "01:23:21", "text": "academia, elected officials, and even the media say free energy is impossible."}, {"start": "01:23:21", "end": "01:23:28", "text": "Any scientist who claims otherwise is attacked sometimes professionally, but sometimes they're attacked physically."}, {"start": "01:23:28", "end": "01:23:36", "text": "Why? Money and power. I was asking rhetorically, but yes, money and power. When Dr. Tom Falone was"}, {"start": "01:23:36", "end": "01:23:43", "text": "working at the US patent office. He came across inventions that could solve our energy and pollution problems."}, {"start": "01:23:43", "end": "01:23:49", "text": "Inventions that could literally change the world and accelerate the progress of humanity. He became frustrated when he"}, {"start": "01:23:49", "end": "01:23:57", "text": "saw invention after invention slapped with a secrecy order. Patent sequestering, which is actually"}, {"start": "01:23:57", "end": "01:24:04", "text": "called secretizing. The public needs to know at least that every major military agency has a representative at the"}, {"start": "01:24:04", "end": "01:24:10", "text": "patent office. And when Voluone blew the whistle, they fired him. Just fired. I'm surprised this guy"}, {"start": "01:24:10", "end": "01:24:17", "text": "didn't get whacked. Oh yeah, he better be watching his back. patent office in its current approach is"}, {"start": "01:24:17", "end": "01:24:23", "text": "it's actually breaking the law. It's trying to make happy the uh physicists who are with American Physical Society"}, {"start": "01:24:23", "end": "01:24:29", "text": "to keep them in power with their ideas, you might say, and withhold from public"}, {"start": "01:24:29", "end": "01:24:37", "text": "use good inventions that could solve our problems like the energy crisis. For over 100 years, these technologies"}, {"start": "01:24:37", "end": "01:24:42", "text": "have been suppressed, keeping society in a state of complacency, poverty, and"}, {"start": "01:24:42", "end": "01:24:47", "text": "pollution. The Federation of American Scientists spoke about suppression in"}, {"start": "01:24:47", "end": "01:24:53", "text": "2010, calculating that in that year alone, 5,135"}, {"start": "01:24:53", "end": "01:25:00", "text": "inventions were given a secrecy order. Most of these patents had to do with clean energy, anti-gravity, and"}, {"start": "01:25:00", "end": "01:25:06", "text": "alternative methods of propulsion. Over 5,000 in one year. So, how many in 10"}, {"start": "01:25:06", "end": "01:25:12", "text": "years? How many in a 100? What technology is being hidden from us? The"}, {"start": "01:25:12", "end": "01:25:18", "text": "latest buzz phrase is green energy or the green movement. That sounds nice. We"}, {"start": "01:25:18", "end": "01:25:24", "text": "all want a clean environment. But green energy, as currently defined, is a fad."}, {"start": "01:25:24", "end": "01:25:30", "text": "No, that's not the right word. Green energy is a scam."}, {"start": "01:25:36", "end": "01:25:41", "text": "Why suppress thousands, maybe tens of thousands of inventions that could clean"}, {"start": "01:25:41", "end": "01:25:47", "text": "our planet and provide free energy for everyone on Earth? The money and power."}, {"start": "01:25:47", "end": "01:25:54", "text": "Yep. There are literally hundreds of trillions of dollars at stake. So, next"}, {"start": "01:25:54", "end": "01:26:00", "text": "time you're arguing with a friend or family member about climate change, remember the energy industry and the"}, {"start": "01:26:00", "end": "01:26:07", "text": "United States government want you to hate each other. Don't play into their hands."}, {"start": "01:26:07", "end": "01:26:13", "text": "A declassified document made in the 1970s lists categories of inventions"}, {"start": "01:26:13", "end": "01:26:21", "text": "that are considered secret. One of those categories is for energy systems that are more than 70 to 80% efficient and"}, {"start": "01:26:21", "end": "01:26:28", "text": "solar panels that are more than 20% efficient. If you patent an efficient energy or propulsion device, it gets"}, {"start": "01:26:28", "end": "01:26:34", "text": "slapped with a secrecy order. You want proof? In 1971, over 50 years ago,"}, {"start": "01:26:34", "end": "01:26:40", "text": "someone patented a solar panel that was 20% efficient. It was made secret. You"}, {"start": "01:26:40", "end": "01:26:48", "text": "could have had solar panels on your house for years, but you never knew they existed. Today, solar panels are only"}, {"start": "01:26:48", "end": "01:26:54", "text": "slightly better than 20% efficient. Imagine how much they could have improved if the technology had not been"}, {"start": "01:26:54", "end": "01:27:01", "text": "hidden for 40 years. So, what about green energy? It's a scam."}, {"start": "01:27:01", "end": "01:27:07", "text": "Green energy is not designed to do anything but line the pockets of politicians and the CEOs of the green"}, {"start": "01:27:07", "end": "01:27:14", "text": "energy companies that get billions of dollars of your money in the form of subsidies to research things like solar"}, {"start": "01:27:14", "end": "01:27:19", "text": "panels and wind farms. And by the way, solar panels only last about 15 to 20"}, {"start": "01:27:19", "end": "01:27:26", "text": "years. Then they go into a landfill to decay, and that material is toxic. Solar"}, {"start": "01:27:26", "end": "01:27:31", "text": "panels also produce tons of toxic waste. But even if we reduce this waste during"}, {"start": "01:27:31", "end": "01:27:39", "text": "manufacturing, solar panels eventually stop working, especially if they're poorly made in China. And when their"}, {"start": "01:27:39", "end": "01:27:47", "text": "lifespan is over, they leave behind toxic trash. Then it seeps into our water supply. Scam. Wind farms barely"}, {"start": "01:27:47", "end": "01:27:52", "text": "produce any power, but they destroy the landscape, kill wildlife, and again"}, {"start": "01:27:52", "end": "01:27:58", "text": "require an enormous amount of fossil fuels to build. Scam. Nuclear energy"}, {"start": "01:27:58", "end": "01:28:06", "text": "sounds great. No pollution. But when the nuclear material is discarded, it stays radioactive and deadly for thousands of"}, {"start": "01:28:06", "end": "01:28:12", "text": "years. Scam. Do you think your electric car is protecting the environment? It's"}, {"start": "01:28:12", "end": "01:28:17", "text": "actually making it worse. Over 80% of electricity comes from coal, oil, and"}, {"start": "01:28:17", "end": "01:28:24", "text": "natural gas. So yeah, your Tesla runs on coal. Scam. The amount of fossil fuels"}, {"start": "01:28:24", "end": "01:28:29", "text": "used to extract the raw materials to build electric cars causes a lot of"}, {"start": "01:28:29", "end": "01:28:36", "text": "pollution. And the lithium batteries that power them. Lithium mines are awful for the environment. Not to mention,"}, {"start": "01:28:36", "end": "01:28:43", "text": "most of the extraction of these materials is done with slave labor in terrible working conditions. Scam. Now,"}, {"start": "01:28:43", "end": "01:28:51", "text": "don't get defensive. This isn't your fault. The technology to fix this is there and has been for 100 years. So, do"}, {"start": "01:28:51", "end": "01:29:00", "text": "all these patents just sit on a shelf gathering dust, never to see the light of day? Oh, no."}, {"start": "01:29:04", "end": "01:29:10", "text": "A scientist named Salvatore Pace has multiple patents strikingly similar to"}, {"start": "01:29:10", "end": "01:29:17", "text": "allegedly impossible inventions. He's patented devices that use electromagnetic fields, vibrations, and"}, {"start": "01:29:17", "end": "01:29:22", "text": "quantum field fluctuations to manipulate gravity, mass, and energy. He has a"}, {"start": "01:29:22", "end": "01:29:29", "text": "patent that allows for faster than light speeded travel. He has a patent that can change the course of asteroids through a"}, {"start": "01:29:29", "end": "01:29:36", "text": "magnetic field. And my favorite Salvatore Pius invention, he has a patent for a tiny solid state device"}, {"start": "01:29:36", "end": "01:29:41", "text": "about the size of a deck of cards that can generate unlimited clean energy from"}, {"start": "01:29:41", "end": "01:29:46", "text": "the vacuum. So, how come his inventions aren't suppressed? Well, because the"}, {"start": "01:29:46", "end": "01:29:52", "text": "patents are owned by or have been assigned to the United States Navy."}, {"start": "01:29:52", "end": "01:29:59", "text": "Now, I'm sure that most clean energy anti-gravity inventors are frauds, but not all of them. I believe the"}, {"start": "01:29:59", "end": "01:30:07", "text": "technology does exist and I believe it's being used right now by government contractors. However, these contractors"}, {"start": "01:30:07", "end": "01:30:13", "text": "don't work for the US government. They work for the shadow."}, {"start": "01:30:31", "end": "01:30:37", "text": "We have the technology to eliminate famine and heal the ecosystem, but that"}, {"start": "01:30:37", "end": "01:30:44", "text": "would derail the shadow government's agenda. There is the government, constitutional government of the United States. And"}, {"start": "01:30:44", "end": "01:30:51", "text": "then there's this other secret government operation which has more money, more power, more technology. It"}, {"start": "01:30:51", "end": "01:30:57", "text": "is a criminal enterprise. It is not sanctioned by the president and is not sanctioned by Congress. And yet they're"}, {"start": "01:30:57", "end": "01:31:06", "text": "using our tax dollars and are raping the planet and destroying the earth and impoverishing half the planet."}, {"start": "01:31:12", "end": "01:31:18", "text": "We could live in a world of abundance. No more wars for energy. But the shadow"}, {"start": "01:31:18", "end": "01:31:24", "text": "government becomes powerless in a world of abundance. They derive their power from scarcity because they control the"}, {"start": "01:31:24", "end": "01:31:30", "text": "resources. Resources that could be made completely free if we only had access to"}, {"start": "01:31:30", "end": "01:31:36", "text": "suppressed technology. So what's the solution? Elect new leaders? No. Our"}, {"start": "01:31:36", "end": "01:31:44", "text": "leaders are controlled by or in fear of the shadow government. They only care about being reelected and getting rich."}, {"start": "01:31:44", "end": "01:31:51", "text": "All of them. And don't go to the media. They're in the pocket of the shadow government whether they know it or not."}, {"start": "01:31:51", "end": "01:31:56", "text": "So, do we repeal the Invention Secrecy Act? Well, that will never happen."}, {"start": "01:31:56", "end": "01:32:04", "text": "Nobody will risk their career voting for it. They'll say some inventions need to be hidden for national security. And"}, {"start": "01:32:04", "end": "01:32:10", "text": "whenever you hear that phrase national security, remember it's not your security they're protecting. It's"}, {"start": "01:32:10", "end": "01:32:16", "text": "theirs. The solution is simple, but it's not one"}, {"start": "01:32:16", "end": "01:32:24", "text": "inventors want to hear. If you create a free energy device that you can prove works, do not patent it. Publish your"}, {"start": "01:32:24", "end": "01:32:30", "text": "invention anonymously on the internet and make it freely available to everyone. Don't be foolish and think you"}, {"start": "01:32:30", "end": "01:32:38", "text": "can use the patent system to become rich. They will not allow it and most likely they'll kill you. Instead, share"}, {"start": "01:32:38", "end": "01:32:43", "text": "your technology first. You can change the world. I promise the money will be"}, {"start": "01:32:43", "end": "01:32:50", "text": "there. So to all you weekend tinkerers and free energy hobbyists, keep tinkering and keep inventing. But most"}, {"start": "01:32:50", "end": "01:32:55", "text": "of all, keep quiet."}, {"start": "01:32:57", "end": "01:33:03", "text": "3 + 1 5 plus 0. Now, I thought Killer Patents volume 1 was controversial, but"}, {"start": "01:33:03", "end": "01:33:08", "text": "volume two, which we're about to play, made a lot of people crazy. So, in this"}, {"start": "01:33:08", "end": "01:33:14", "text": "coming episode, we cover forbidden technology. So, that's that's not what made people upset. It was what I"}, {"start": "01:33:14", "end": "01:33:20", "text": "reported about, meaning what I exposed about the American Medical Association."}, {"start": "01:33:20", "end": "01:33:28", "text": "So, if you don't know this episode, let me just say this. The AMA is not what you think it is."}, {"start": "01:33:40", "end": "01:33:48", "text": "The history of medicine goes back to the dawn of mankind when ancient healers use special herbs to treat illnesses."}, {"start": "01:33:48", "end": "01:33:54", "text": "Hypocrates, the father of medicine, laid the foundation for modern medical practice, observation, diagnosis,"}, {"start": "01:33:54", "end": "01:34:02", "text": "prognosis, and treatment. His work set the stage for centuries of medical progress. In the 19th century, Edward"}, {"start": "01:34:02", "end": "01:34:08", "text": "Jenner created a smallox vaccine and Louis Pastor proved microorganisms cause"}, {"start": "01:34:08", "end": "01:34:13", "text": "disease. The 20th century brought antibiotics, medical imaging, and organ"}, {"start": "01:34:13", "end": "01:34:18", "text": "transplants. In the past 400 years, the human lifespan has doubled. But"}, {"start": "01:34:18", "end": "01:34:24", "text": "something happened to medicine along the way. It became an industry, a profitable"}, {"start": "01:34:24", "end": "01:34:31", "text": "one. President Eisenhower warned against creating a military-industrial complex"}, {"start": "01:34:31", "end": "01:34:38", "text": "because if you make war profitable, you'll always have war. And he was right. The potential for the disastrous rise of"}, {"start": "01:34:38", "end": "01:34:44", "text": "misplaced power exists and will persist. So here's a cynical question. If you"}, {"start": "01:34:44", "end": "01:34:49", "text": "make illness profitable, will you always have illness? Well, in recent years,"}, {"start": "01:34:49", "end": "01:34:55", "text": "trillions have been spent on cancer research and therapies. Now, that's a lot of people getting rich from a"}, {"start": "01:34:55", "end": "01:34:59", "text": "disease that's already been cured."}, {"start": "01:35:06", "end": "01:35:13", "text": "Royal Raymond Reich was born in Nebraska in 1888. He was a good student and wanted to be a doctor. Only 16 years"}, {"start": "01:35:13", "end": "01:35:20", "text": "old, he was admitted to John's Hopkins University, one of the best medical institutions in the world. Refe became"}, {"start": "01:35:20", "end": "01:35:27", "text": "fascinated by bacteriology and the microscopic world, which led him to optics. To study bacteria effectively,"}, {"start": "01:35:27", "end": "01:35:32", "text": "he needed to see them clearly. He took a job at Zeiss Works in New York and"}, {"start": "01:35:32", "end": "01:35:39", "text": "trained under senior optics engineers. If you know anything about microscopes, telescopes, or cameras, or anything with"}, {"start": "01:35:39", "end": "01:35:46", "text": "lenses, you've heard of Zeiss. And Reife wasn't a bookworm researcher. He was hands-on."}, {"start": "01:35:46", "end": "01:35:54", "text": "He built his own equipment, including one of the most powerful microscopes ever made, the universal microscope. In"}, {"start": "01:35:54", "end": "01:36:00", "text": "the 1920s, standard microscopes could only magnify objects up to 2,000 times."}, {"start": "01:36:00", "end": "01:36:07", "text": "Refe could reach 60,000 times magnification. He could see viruses and bacteria that nobody had ever seen"}, {"start": "01:36:07", "end": "01:36:13", "text": "before. Refe discovered what he called Basillus X or the BX virus. He believed"}, {"start": "01:36:13", "end": "01:36:19", "text": "cancer wasn't a disease. It was a virus. The BX virus. He wanted to destroy these"}, {"start": "01:36:19", "end": "01:36:26", "text": "microorganisms without harming surrounding tissue. Then he made another amazing discovery."}, {"start": "01:36:26", "end": "01:36:32", "text": "He found that exposing microorganisms to specific frequencies caused them to"}, {"start": "01:36:32", "end": "01:36:37", "text": "explode. It's immediately paralyzed and it starts disintegrating from within."}, {"start": "01:36:37", "end": "01:36:44", "text": "All objects have a resonant frequency. When exposed to an external force matching this frequency, an object"}, {"start": "01:36:44", "end": "01:36:51", "text": "absorbs energy and vibrates more intensely. Parts of the human body have their own frequencies. This is useful in"}, {"start": "01:36:51", "end": "01:36:56", "text": "an MRI, which uses frequencies to produce diagnostic images, but it can"}, {"start": "01:36:56", "end": "01:37:02", "text": "also be dangerous. If you resonate an object for too long or with too much energy, it could be damaged or"}, {"start": "01:37:02", "end": "01:37:09", "text": "destroyed. This is why singers can break a glass by singing the right note."}, {"start": "01:37:14", "end": "01:37:19", "text": "That's how you do it. So, Refe built the rife frequency"}, {"start": "01:37:19", "end": "01:37:26", "text": "generator or rife machine which emitted specific frequencies to target and destroy specific microorganisms. He"}, {"start": "01:37:26", "end": "01:37:34", "text": "called the frequency the mortal oscilly rate. He found the frequencies to destroy tuberculosis, typhoid,"}, {"start": "01:37:34", "end": "01:37:39", "text": "pneumonia, anthrax and more all without harming healthy tissue."}, {"start": "01:37:39", "end": "01:37:46", "text": "Now you can see the disintegration on the bacteria going into pieces."}, {"start": "01:37:46", "end": "01:37:51", "text": "This is killing bacteria without harm to the human cell"}, {"start": "01:37:51", "end": "01:37:58", "text": "without drugs. He injected lab rats with cancer cells, creating golf ballsized tumors, then"}, {"start": "01:37:58", "end": "01:38:04", "text": "used his machine to match the cancer's mortal oscilly rate. It worked. The lab"}, {"start": "01:38:04", "end": "01:38:10", "text": "rats were completely cancer-free. Refe's work attracted interest from"}, {"start": "01:38:10", "end": "01:38:16", "text": "other doctors. Dr. Milbank Johnson arranged a study on 16 cancer patients"}, {"start": "01:38:16", "end": "01:38:21", "text": "using Reich's machine. In 3 months, 14 of the 16 patients were completely"}, {"start": "01:38:21", "end": "01:38:27", "text": "cured. Dr. Royal Raymond Reich discovered the cure for cancer and it"}, {"start": "01:38:27", "end": "01:38:30", "text": "ruined him."}, {"start": "01:38:34", "end": "01:38:39", "text": "Royal Raymond Reich's discovery was a triumph. His clinical trial in 1934 was"}, {"start": "01:38:39", "end": "01:38:45", "text": "a huge success. 16 cases were treated at the clinic for many types of malignancy. After 3"}, {"start": "01:38:45", "end": "01:38:51", "text": "months, 14 of these so-called hopeless cases were signed off as clinically"}, {"start": "01:38:51", "end": "01:38:56", "text": "cured by the staff of five medical doctors and Dr. Alvin G. Ford, ND,"}, {"start": "01:38:56", "end": "01:39:01", "text": "pathologist for the group. At first, the medical establishment rejected Reife's"}, {"start": "01:39:01", "end": "01:39:08", "text": "ideas. The notion that simple radio waves could succeed where radiation and surgery had failed. Well, that was"}, {"start": "01:39:08", "end": "01:39:16", "text": "nonsense. They figured Reie's funding would dry up and he'd disappear. But that didn't happen."}, {"start": "01:39:16", "end": "01:39:22", "text": "To get financed in medical research, you need support from the pharmaceutical industry. But Refe didn't need big"}, {"start": "01:39:22", "end": "01:39:28", "text": "pharma. He was backed by a few private investors, including William Timkin, who owned a ball bearing company."}, {"start": "01:39:28", "end": "01:39:34", "text": "Hey, it's all ball bearings nowadays. Okay, now you uh prepare that fetcher valve"}, {"start": "01:39:34", "end": "01:39:40", "text": "with some 3 in1 oil and gor pads with I'm going to need about 10 quarts"}, {"start": "01:39:40", "end": "01:39:47", "text": "of antifreeze. What? Fletch. I know it's Fletch."}, {"start": "01:39:47", "end": "01:39:54", "text": "With no ties to the medical industry, Reife had the freedom to research whatever and however he wanted. Doctors"}, {"start": "01:39:54", "end": "01:40:00", "text": "around the country figured if this Reich guy wasn't going away, they might as well look at his work. Refe used his"}, {"start": "01:40:00", "end": "01:40:05", "text": "machine more than 400 times on animal tumors. It worked every time, forcing"}, {"start": "01:40:05", "end": "01:40:13", "text": "even the most hardened skeptics to take notice. And there was no bigger skeptic than Morris Fishbine."}, {"start": "01:40:19", "end": "01:40:25", "text": "Fishbine, head of the American Medical Association, was known to be very aggressive. Some critics called him the"}, {"start": "01:40:25", "end": "01:40:30", "text": "medical Mussolini. At first, Fishbine offered to buy Reife"}, {"start": "01:40:30", "end": "01:40:36", "text": "out. But when Reife said no, Fishbine's attitude changed. Refe kept working, but"}, {"start": "01:40:36", "end": "01:40:44", "text": "progress became increasingly difficult. Mysterious people started showing up at his lab. Some offered bribes and others"}, {"start": "01:40:44", "end": "01:40:50", "text": "made threats. Other doctors had success using Reich's"}, {"start": "01:40:50", "end": "01:40:57", "text": "technology but were pressured by the AMA to stop or lose their licenses. Vigilant against cracker is Dr. Morris"}, {"start": "01:40:57", "end": "01:41:03", "text": "Fishmine. There is no serum, drug or combination of drugs that we know that will"}, {"start": "01:41:03", "end": "01:41:10", "text": "definitely cure cancer. Any doctor caught using a rife machine was harassed and worse."}, {"start": "01:41:10", "end": "01:41:15", "text": "Fishbine then launched a campaign of character assassination against Reife."}, {"start": "01:41:15", "end": "01:41:22", "text": "Articles appeared in medical journals and newspapers calling Reie a quack and a charlatan. Reife's lab was vandalized,"}, {"start": "01:41:22", "end": "01:41:31", "text": "his equipment destroyed, and his research disappeared. His life was unraveling. The final blow came in 1939."}, {"start": "01:41:31", "end": "01:41:38", "text": "Fishbine offered one of Reife's investors legal assistance in an attempt to steal the company from Refe and other"}, {"start": "01:41:38", "end": "01:41:43", "text": "investors. Refe spent years fighting lawsuits. He went bankrupt and the AMA"}, {"start": "01:41:43", "end": "01:41:49", "text": "stopped his work from proceeding. Royal Raymond Refeired."}, {"start": "01:41:49", "end": "01:41:54", "text": "Broke and broken, he turned to alcohol."}, {"start": "01:42:01", "end": "01:42:06", "text": "About 20 years later, renewed interest in Reife's technology led John Crane and"}, {"start": "01:42:06", "end": "01:42:14", "text": "John Marsh to convince him to build a new machine. Refe agreed, but the business didn't last long."}, {"start": "01:42:14", "end": "01:42:22", "text": "In 1960, their labs were raided without a warrant. All equipment and records were seized. Refe stayed out of court,"}, {"start": "01:42:22", "end": "01:42:28", "text": "but his partners were charged with medical fraud. Even though 14 patients testified they were cured by the rife"}, {"start": "01:42:28", "end": "01:42:36", "text": "machine, Crane and Marsh were sentenced to 3 years in prison. Oh, by the way, the fourwoman of the jury was an AMA"}, {"start": "01:42:36", "end": "01:42:42", "text": "doctor. Oh, come on. Refe was again labeled a liar and a quack and reduced to poverty and"}, {"start": "01:42:42", "end": "01:42:49", "text": "despair. Many of Refe's associates faced tragedies. Dr. Milbake Johnson died in"}, {"start": "01:42:49", "end": "01:42:55", "text": "1944, poisoned, and all his research disappeared. Bernett Labs in New Jersey, building"}, {"start": "01:42:55", "end": "01:43:02", "text": "rife machines to treat cancer, mysteriously burned to the ground in 1939. All equipment and research were"}, {"start": "01:43:02", "end": "01:43:09", "text": "destroyed. And the owner of the lab, Dr. John Bernett, was related to William Tinken, the ball bearing guy."}, {"start": "01:43:09", "end": "01:43:15", "text": "Yep. Dr. Elmer Neis was a nuclear physicist,"}, {"start": "01:43:15", "end": "01:43:22", "text": "medical doctor, and microscope designer. He was trying to replicate Reife's work in 1969."}, {"start": "01:43:22", "end": "01:43:27", "text": "He died while staying at a hotel when his bed suddenly caught fire."}, {"start": "01:43:27", "end": "01:43:33", "text": "Two years later in 1971, Reife had a heart attack. While in the hospital, he"}, {"start": "01:43:33", "end": "01:43:39", "text": "died after he was accidentally given a lethal dose of Valium. Accidentally, my dorsal fin."}, {"start": "01:43:39", "end": "01:43:46", "text": "But Reife's ideas didn't die with him. Other pioneers would seek out alternative ways of curing diseases. The"}, {"start": "01:43:46", "end": "01:43:54", "text": "medical mavericks were not going away, but neither were Morris Fishbine or the AMA."}, {"start": "01:44:00", "end": "01:44:06", "text": "The medical establishment does not like alternative medicine. In the 19th century, there were two types of medical"}, {"start": "01:44:06", "end": "01:44:12", "text": "practitioners in the US. Alipathic doctors and alternative healers."}, {"start": "01:44:12", "end": "01:44:18", "text": "Alopathic doctors diagnose and treat illnesses with pharmaceuticals, surgery, and other conventional methods."}, {"start": "01:44:18", "end": "01:44:26", "text": "Alternative healers used natural remedies. Since anybody could claim to be a healer, many did. Natural healers"}, {"start": "01:44:26", "end": "01:44:33", "text": "were cheaper and plentiful, mainstream doctors weren't making any money. So, in 1847, they formed a trade union called"}, {"start": "01:44:33", "end": "01:44:41", "text": "the American Medical Association, the AMA. The AMA started out as a union? Yep."}, {"start": "01:44:41", "end": "01:44:48", "text": "Isn't a union's job to protect the interests of its members? It is. So, in 1901, the Journal of the"}, {"start": "01:44:48", "end": "01:44:56", "text": "American Medical Association released a statement. The growth of the profession must be stemmed if individual members"}, {"start": "01:44:56", "end": "01:45:03", "text": "are to find the practice of medicine a lucrative profession. So, the AMA was created so doctors can"}, {"start": "01:45:03", "end": "01:45:10", "text": "make more money. That's right. Isn't this corrupt? I'm not judging. I'm just telling you what happened. The AMA brought in the"}, {"start": "01:45:10", "end": "01:45:15", "text": "Carnegi Foundation to survey medical schools. In 1910, they released a report"}, {"start": "01:45:15", "end": "01:45:21", "text": "calling for standardizing medical training and eliminating non-scientific practices."}, {"start": "01:45:21", "end": "01:45:27", "text": "And who determines what's scientific? The AMA does. Yeah, of course. Schools teaching alternative medicine"}, {"start": "01:45:27", "end": "01:45:34", "text": "were forced to drop these courses or lose funding and their ability to grant an MD. This led to a significant"}, {"start": "01:45:34", "end": "01:45:40", "text": "reduction in medical schools. They offered tremendous amounts of money"}, {"start": "01:45:40", "end": "01:45:46", "text": "to the schools that would agree to cooperate with them. Almost overnight,"}, {"start": "01:45:46", "end": "01:45:53", "text": "all of the major universities received large grants from these sources and also"}, {"start": "01:45:53", "end": "01:46:00", "text": "accepted one, two, or three of these people that I mentioned on their board of directors. And the schools literally"}, {"start": "01:46:00", "end": "01:46:05", "text": "were taken over by the financial interests that put up the money. In"}, {"start": "01:46:05", "end": "01:46:12", "text": "1904, there were 160 schools granting MDs to more than 28,000 students. By"}, {"start": "01:46:12", "end": "01:46:18", "text": "1920, only 85 medical schools were left. By 1935, the number had dropped to just"}, {"start": "01:46:18", "end": "01:46:24", "text": "66. New awareness of past injustices in many parts of our society. That's true in the"}, {"start": "01:46:24", "end": "01:46:31", "text": "fields of science and medicine, which are starting to look more carefully at their own history. Most medical schools for blacks and all"}, {"start": "01:46:31", "end": "01:46:37", "text": "medical schools for women were now closed. So, if you were black or a woman, becoming an MD and getting into"}, {"start": "01:46:37", "end": "01:46:42", "text": "the AMA was difficult. The American Medical Association is one"}, {"start": "01:46:42", "end": "01:46:47", "text": "of the country's oldest, largest, and best known associations of doctors. Its"}, {"start": "01:46:47", "end": "01:46:54", "text": "voice has long been influential, but now the AMA is finally beginning to come to terms with racism in its own past."}, {"start": "01:46:54", "end": "01:47:00", "text": "The doctor is the only one entitled by training, by experience, and by law to"}, {"start": "01:47:00", "end": "01:47:05", "text": "take care of the sick. The AMA established alipathic medicine"}, {"start": "01:47:05", "end": "01:47:12", "text": "as the only acceptable type of medicine to practice. Alternative medicine was marginalized and in some cases made"}, {"start": "01:47:12", "end": "01:47:18", "text": "illegal. Even if the natural medicine worked. Yep. This is bad. It gets worse."}, {"start": "01:47:18", "end": "01:47:21", "text": "It always does."}, {"start": "01:47:25", "end": "01:47:32", "text": "The doctors from that point forward in history would be taught pharmaceutical drugs."}, {"start": "01:47:32", "end": "01:47:37", "text": "All of the great teaching institutions in America were captured by the"}, {"start": "01:47:37", "end": "01:47:45", "text": "pharmaceutical interests in this fashion. And it's amazing how little money it really took to do it."}, {"start": "01:47:45", "end": "01:47:52", "text": "Every time a new type of alternative medicine was introduced, the AMA would attack. George Doc Simmons was head of"}, {"start": "01:47:52", "end": "01:48:00", "text": "the AMA from 1900 to 1924 and Morris Fishbine from 1924 to 1949. They labeled"}, {"start": "01:48:00", "end": "01:48:07", "text": "alternative practitioners as quacks and used the Journal of the American Medical Association to ruin the reputations of"}, {"start": "01:48:07", "end": "01:48:15", "text": "anyone they deemed a threat to mainstream medicine. The FDA was formed in 1906, but it wasn't until 1962 that"}, {"start": "01:48:15", "end": "01:48:21", "text": "drug companies had to prove their products worked and were safe. Before then, pharmaceutical companies needed"}, {"start": "01:48:21", "end": "01:48:30", "text": "the AMA seal of approval. And how did the drugs get approved? Yeah, I should have seen that coming."}, {"start": "01:48:30", "end": "01:48:37", "text": "If you were a drug company and wanted to get into the journal of the AMA, you had to pay. That was it. The AMA didn't test"}, {"start": "01:48:37", "end": "01:48:44", "text": "drugs for safety or efficacy. They had no labs or researchers. The AMA just collected money."}, {"start": "01:48:44", "end": "01:48:51", "text": "Oh, the AMA leaders would buy stock in that drug company before endorsing the drug, you know, so they can cash in when"}, {"start": "01:48:51", "end": "01:48:58", "text": "the stock price went up. Oh, insider trading. Uh, like they do in Congress. Yeah, kind of like that. Nice work if"}, {"start": "01:48:58", "end": "01:49:06", "text": "you can get it. Huh? Sure is. Dr. Max Gerson made a terrible mistake"}, {"start": "01:49:06", "end": "01:49:13", "text": "when he made the claim that smoking could cause cancer. He didn't realize that at the time the single largest"}, {"start": "01:49:13", "end": "01:49:18", "text": "contributor to the AMA was Philip Morris. Morris Fishbine quickly launched"}, {"start": "01:49:18", "end": "01:49:24", "text": "a campaign to imply that smoking was not only safe but was recommended by"}, {"start": "01:49:24", "end": "01:49:29", "text": "doctors. Yes. According to this survey, more doctors smoke Camels than any other"}, {"start": "01:49:29", "end": "01:49:36", "text": "cigarette. Pack after pack, week after week. See for yourself why camels are so"}, {"start": "01:49:36", "end": "01:49:40", "text": "popular with the doctors of America."}, {"start": "01:49:42", "end": "01:49:48", "text": "Simmons retired in 1924 as a wealthy man and then Fishbine took over. By the way,"}, {"start": "01:49:48", "end": "01:49:55", "text": "Simmons was never a doctor. He got his diploma from Rush Medical College by mail. At least Fishbine went to medical"}, {"start": "01:49:55", "end": "01:50:01", "text": "school, though he wasn't a good student. He never finished his internship. He never received a diploma and never"}, {"start": "01:50:01", "end": "01:50:06", "text": "practiced medicine, never saw a patient. Not ever."}, {"start": "01:50:06", "end": "01:50:12", "text": "In 1938, along with the AMA, Fishbine was indicted for violating the Sherman"}, {"start": "01:50:12", "end": "01:50:18", "text": "Antirust Act. The AMA was convicted and fined, but Fishbine was acquitted."}, {"start": "01:50:18", "end": "01:50:23", "text": "Still, he was lining his pockets. Under Fishbine's leadership, the public grew"}, {"start": "01:50:23", "end": "01:50:30", "text": "more critical of the AMA. It seemed like the AMA was interested in making people money, not making people healthy."}, {"start": "01:50:30", "end": "01:50:36", "text": "Fishbine was finally thrown out of the AMA in 1949. And that was the end of the corruption"}, {"start": "01:50:36", "end": "01:50:44", "text": "with the AMA and Big Farmer. Oh, I'm sure everything's on the level now. Uhhuh."}, {"start": "01:50:48", "end": "01:50:54", "text": "In 1924, Harry Hawky developed an unconventional cancer treatment. A"}, {"start": "01:50:54", "end": "01:50:59", "text": "self-taught healer from Illinois, he claimed his herbal remedy came from his great-grandfather."}, {"start": "01:50:59", "end": "01:51:05", "text": "By the 1950s, the Hawky Clinic in Dallas was the world's largest private cancer"}, {"start": "01:51:05", "end": "01:51:10", "text": "center with branches in 17 states."}, {"start": "01:51:10", "end": "01:51:17", "text": "And we now have in our files and our records many many thousands of case histories and records pathological proof"}, {"start": "01:51:17", "end": "01:51:22", "text": "X-ray photographic studies that we do positively cure cancer both internal and"}, {"start": "01:51:22", "end": "01:51:30", "text": "external. Hawky reported very high success rates which caught the eye of Morris Fishbine."}, {"start": "01:51:30", "end": "01:51:36", "text": "Hawky gave Fishbine and other AMA members a demonstration of his product and method. The next day Fishbine"}, {"start": "01:51:36", "end": "01:51:42", "text": "offered to buy Hawky's formula. Hawky was open to the idea but insisted on providing treatment to those who"}, {"start": "01:51:42", "end": "01:51:49", "text": "couldn't afford it as he did in his clinics. Fishbine was offended. He demanded full control of the business"}, {"start": "01:51:49", "end": "01:51:55", "text": "and profits for 9 years. After that, Hawky would get 10% of the profits if"}, {"start": "01:51:55", "end": "01:52:02", "text": "the AMA was satisfied the cure worked. Ah yeah, hard pass. Yeah. Oxy refused. And like Royal"}, {"start": "01:52:02", "end": "01:52:07", "text": "Raymond Refe, Hawky faced Fishbine's wrath."}, {"start": "01:52:09", "end": "01:52:17", "text": "From 1926 to 1931, Hawky was arrested 119 times for practicing medicine"}, {"start": "01:52:17", "end": "01:52:22", "text": "without a license. Between 1937 and 1939, he was arrested over a 100 times"}, {"start": "01:52:22", "end": "01:52:29", "text": "in Texas. Fishbine labeled Hawky the worst cancer quack of the century and"}, {"start": "01:52:29", "end": "01:52:36", "text": "pressured the FDA to shut down his clinic. Patients were harassed, records seized, and clinics closed. Hawky fought"}, {"start": "01:52:36", "end": "01:52:42", "text": "back. He sued Fishbine and the AMA for liel and slander and won. Fishbine was"}, {"start": "01:52:42", "end": "01:52:49", "text": "forced to resign and admitted in court that Hawky's treatment cured external cancer."}, {"start": "01:52:49", "end": "01:52:56", "text": "Hawky converted skeptics, including Al Templeton, the assistant district attorney of Dallas, who had arrested"}, {"start": "01:52:56", "end": "01:53:01", "text": "Hawky almost 100 times. When Templeton's brother's cancer was cured by Hawky,"}, {"start": "01:53:01", "end": "01:53:08", "text": "Templeton became Hawky's lawyer. In 1939, Esquire journalist James Burke"}, {"start": "01:53:08", "end": "01:53:13", "text": "came to Texas to expose the fraud. Why don't you go down to Texas"}, {"start": "01:53:13", "end": "01:53:18", "text": "and let's expose this fell? He's getting too big. And the American Medical"}, {"start": "01:53:18", "end": "01:53:24", "text": "Association like to put him out of business and said you go down and get acquainted with him and says we'll do a"}, {"start": "01:53:24", "end": "01:53:30", "text": "couple of pieces on him and put an end to this. He stayed 6 weeks and wrote the quack"}, {"start": "01:53:30", "end": "01:53:37", "text": "who cures cancer and became Hawky's publicist. Now, even though Fishbine resigned, he"}, {"start": "01:53:37", "end": "01:53:43", "text": "was still powerful. In 1960, after 36 years of operation, Hawky's clinics were"}, {"start": "01:53:43", "end": "01:53:49", "text": "closed. Even with the support of US Senator Elmer Thomas, Hawky's herbal"}, {"start": "01:53:49", "end": "01:53:54", "text": "treatment was never officially tested because one senator is not enough. It"}, {"start": "01:53:54", "end": "01:54:00", "text": "seems that the medical fraternity is highly organized and that they have decided to crush you and your"}, {"start": "01:54:00", "end": "01:54:06", "text": "institution. It seems that the public officials are afraid that if they make any move or say anything antagonistic to"}, {"start": "01:54:06", "end": "01:54:11", "text": "the wishes of the medical organization, they will be pouted upon and destroyed."}, {"start": "01:54:11", "end": "01:54:19", "text": "In other words, the public officials seem to be afraid of their jobs and even of their lives."}, {"start": "01:54:19", "end": "01:54:24", "text": "In the next election, the AMA lobbyed heavily against Senator Thomas. Even"}, {"start": "01:54:24", "end": "01:54:31", "text": "though Thomas was very popular, he was defeated in the primary by Mike Monron. The vote was a huge upset and a surprise"}, {"start": "01:54:31", "end": "01:54:37", "text": "to everyone, but it wasn't a surprise to the AMA."}, {"start": "01:54:43", "end": "01:54:48", "text": "Anything that comes from nature cannot be patented. They're not"}, {"start": "01:54:48", "end": "01:54:54", "text": "interested in that. That and of course the FDA says it's illegal to use unless"}, {"start": "01:54:54", "end": "01:55:01", "text": "it's been tested for efficacy and safety. Now, you see the the catch 22"}, {"start": "01:55:01", "end": "01:55:07", "text": "you're in there. Nothing from nature, regardless of how effective it might be,"}, {"start": "01:55:07", "end": "01:55:12", "text": "will ever be proven safe or effective. According to the FDA, it'll never be. So"}, {"start": "01:55:12", "end": "01:55:19", "text": "therefore, everything from nature will always be condemned by the FDA as unproven."}, {"start": "01:55:23", "end": "01:55:29", "text": "This was a difficult episode to write. Cancer affects almost everybody."}, {"start": "01:55:29", "end": "01:55:35", "text": "Cancer's hit my family hard over the years. It took my dad two years ago. And"}, {"start": "01:55:35", "end": "01:55:42", "text": "if it's affecting you right now, either directly or indirectly, I'm sorry. I really am. I know the pain you're going"}, {"start": "01:55:42", "end": "01:55:48", "text": "through. So, here are the facts about today's story. I'm going to work backward. Harry Hawky's formula is still"}, {"start": "01:55:48", "end": "01:55:55", "text": "around, but don't try it. Actually, don't do anything without talking to your doctor. Hawky's formula has been"}, {"start": "01:55:55", "end": "01:56:01", "text": "tested and there's no proof it cures anything. In fact, it could even be dangerous. Need more proof? Guess how"}, {"start": "01:56:01", "end": "01:56:07", "text": "Harry Hawky died. Don't tell me it was cancer. Cancer. Prostate cancer. He used his"}, {"start": "01:56:07", "end": "01:56:15", "text": "formula on himself and it didn't work. He secretly had surgery and died 7 years later. Seven hard years. So, don't mess"}, {"start": "01:56:15", "end": "01:56:22", "text": "with his formula. Listen to your doctor. Morris Fishbine and all that nasty stuff about the AMA. Well, that's pretty much"}, {"start": "01:56:22", "end": "01:56:29", "text": "all true. Fishbine was sleazy. Whether he admitted that Hawky's formula worked, I couldn't find any proof. I think it's"}, {"start": "01:56:29", "end": "01:56:36", "text": "just part of the legend. But in Fishbine's defense, he did expose a few frauds. The AMA really did start as an"}, {"start": "01:56:36", "end": "01:56:42", "text": "organization to crush healers using natural remedies so doctors could make more money. But the real history of"}, {"start": "01:56:42", "end": "01:56:49", "text": "Fishbine and the AMA is hard to find. There's not a lot of that on the internet. You have to dig. Now, Royal"}, {"start": "01:56:49", "end": "01:56:54", "text": "Raymond Refe, he wasn't a doctor. That was an honorary degree. He probably wasn't killed in the hospital with"}, {"start": "01:56:54", "end": "01:57:00", "text": "Valium. He was most likely taking it himself. Was he a genius? Yes. Did he"}, {"start": "01:57:00", "end": "01:57:06", "text": "find the cure for cancer? I don't know. There's no evidence that his machine worked. But some people have tried to"}, {"start": "01:57:06", "end": "01:57:13", "text": "build it and got hurt or killed. So again, don't try it. And if you see one for sale, it's a fraud. Don't buy it."}, {"start": "01:57:13", "end": "01:57:20", "text": "But you really can destroy things if you expose them to the right frequency. So what about cancer cells? Well, I"}, {"start": "01:57:20", "end": "01:57:27", "text": "stumbled across this TED talk by Anthony Holland from about 10 years ago. He's a music professor, but he was working with"}, {"start": "01:57:27", "end": "01:57:34", "text": "a lab using sound to attack cancer cells. We now know that cancer is vulnerable"}, {"start": "01:57:34", "end": "01:57:42", "text": "between the frequencies of 100,000 hertz and 300,000 hertz. So now we attack"}, {"start": "01:57:42", "end": "01:57:49", "text": "leukemia cells. Leukemia cell number one tries to grow a copy of itself,"}, {"start": "01:57:49", "end": "01:57:54", "text": "but the new cell is shattered into dozens of fragments and scattered across"}, {"start": "01:57:54", "end": "01:58:00", "text": "the slide. And then 7 years ago, a TED talk by Christine Gibbons. Now by arranging an"}, {"start": "01:58:00", "end": "01:58:08", "text": "array of these elements in a concave formation, the transducer then becomes capable of transmitting ultrasonic waves"}, {"start": "01:58:08", "end": "01:58:14", "text": "that then increase sharply in strength at the focus. By by pulsing those waves,"}, {"start": "01:58:14", "end": "01:58:22", "text": "we create the histatrixy effect to destroy tissue at the cellular level. Sounds promising, but does it work? We"}, {"start": "01:58:22", "end": "01:58:27", "text": "don't know. A bigger, darker question. Is big pharma suppressing cures because"}, {"start": "01:58:27", "end": "01:58:34", "text": "more sick people means more profit? Honestly, I don't think so."}, {"start": "01:58:34", "end": "01:58:41", "text": "Really, I don't. I think the companies, generally speaking, are evil, but that's mostly a judgment of the people who run"}, {"start": "01:58:41", "end": "01:58:47", "text": "them. They're greedy, but that's their job. They're supposed to make money for the people who own the pharmaceutical"}, {"start": "01:58:47", "end": "01:58:54", "text": "companies. Now, who owns them? Well, mostly bankers and hedge funds. But if you have a 401k, a pension, or some kind"}, {"start": "01:58:54", "end": "01:59:00", "text": "of managed investment account, you probably own a little of them, too. Now, the doctors, scientists, and researchers"}, {"start": "01:59:00", "end": "01:59:07", "text": "at these pharmaceutical companies aren't evil. They're the opposite of evil. Those men and women in lab coats going"}, {"start": "01:59:07", "end": "01:59:12", "text": "to a lab every day, thank God for them. And if you're one of those people, thank"}, {"start": "01:59:12", "end": "01:59:17", "text": "you. Truly, if you work in healthcare in any capacity, if you're an EMT or you're"}, {"start": "01:59:17", "end": "01:59:22", "text": "a nurse working night shifts or caring for the elderly or working hospice,"}, {"start": "01:59:22", "end": "01:59:29", "text": "thank you. Be angry at the corporations. Be angry at the greed in the boardroom, but don't be angry at someone who spent"}, {"start": "01:59:29", "end": "01:59:36", "text": "half their life in school to sit in front of a microscope for 60 hours a week. Those are good people down in the"}, {"start": "01:59:36", "end": "01:59:41", "text": "labs. If there was a cure for cancer or any disease, it couldn't be kept secret."}, {"start": "01:59:41", "end": "01:59:47", "text": "Why? because those are good people down in the labs. Besides, if there's a"}, {"start": "01:59:47", "end": "01:59:52", "text": "secret cure for cancer, who's using it? Billionaire elites. Steve Jobs was a"}, {"start": "01:59:52", "end": "01:59:58", "text": "billionaire elite. He was diagnosed with cancer at age 49. He had the resources"}, {"start": "01:59:58", "end": "02:00:04", "text": "for any treatment he wanted, conventional or otherwise. In fact, Steve Jobs spent the first 9 months"}, {"start": "02:00:04", "end": "02:00:11", "text": "after his diagnosis trying nothing but alternative treatments against his doctor's wishes. Steve Jobs had"}, {"start": "02:00:11", "end": "02:00:16", "text": "unlimited resources and he's still lost. Look, I understand why people are drawn"}, {"start": "02:00:16", "end": "02:00:23", "text": "to the theories about secret cures and alternative medicine. When you or a loved one is suffering and traditional"}, {"start": "02:00:23", "end": "02:00:29", "text": "medicine isn't working, you'll try anything. That's why we call it fighting or surviving cancer. It's about"}, {"start": "02:00:29", "end": "02:00:37", "text": "reclaiming control over your health, exploring every possibility, and refusing to give up. Now, true or not,"}, {"start": "02:00:37", "end": "02:00:44", "text": "these are stories of resilience and the belief that answers might exist outside mainstream thinking. A miracle cure"}, {"start": "02:00:44", "end": "02:00:51", "text": "didn't arrive in time to save my dad, but it might arrive in time to save yours. And if it does, I don't want any"}, {"start": "02:00:51", "end": "02:00:57", "text": "agency or bureaucracy getting in the way. That's why it was so hard on the AMA today, because they have a history"}, {"start": "02:00:57", "end": "02:01:03", "text": "of shutting down ideas that aren't mainstream. We can't let that happen"}, {"start": "02:01:03", "end": "02:01:10", "text": "again. One day, another maverick will come along with a cure that defies mainstream medicine. And so-called"}, {"start": "02:01:10", "end": "02:01:16", "text": "experts will try to silence them because they can't understand anything outside mainstream thinking. So, here's a"}, {"start": "02:01:16", "end": "02:01:23", "text": "message to those experts. If you're not going to help, get out of the way. Like"}, {"start": "02:01:23", "end": "02:01:30", "text": "things just freak me out like this and reach back and find the likes memory a whole lot."}, {"start": "02:01:33", "end": "02:01:38", "text": "3 + 1 5 plus 0 0. The next episode is a story that I"}, {"start": "02:01:38", "end": "02:01:46", "text": "always liked, but I wasn't sure how it would perform on the channel. This one is about Operation Gladadio."}, {"start": "02:01:46", "end": "02:01:52", "text": "They trained a secret army, a civilian army in Italy to bomb civilians and then"}, {"start": "02:01:52", "end": "02:01:58", "text": "blame it on the communists. The communists at that time were the most popular party in Italy, you know, post"}, {"start": "02:01:58", "end": "02:02:06", "text": "war because they had just went through fascism, right, with Mussolini. So you just it always swings too far the other"}, {"start": "02:02:06", "end": "02:02:11", "text": "way. So we swing way the other way. Communism very popular can't have that."}, {"start": "02:02:11", "end": "02:02:18", "text": "So civilians were killed in bombings by the CIA trained guerilla army and they were"}, {"start": "02:02:18", "end": "02:02:24", "text": "trained by a a Nazi general who was tight with Allan Dulles. And it was and this was planned during the during the"}, {"start": "02:02:24", "end": "02:02:30", "text": "war. Um, you know, while while American GIS were being killed fighting the"}, {"start": "02:02:30", "end": "02:02:36", "text": "Nazis, they were already planning this next phase."}, {"start": "02:02:47", "end": "02:02:53", "text": "In 1948, the streets of every major city in America saw a huge and sudden rise in"}, {"start": "02:02:53", "end": "02:03:00", "text": "the heroin supply. Harry Enslinger was the commissioner of federal narcotics and he wanted answers. A confidential"}, {"start": "02:03:00", "end": "02:03:06", "text": "informant drops a bombshell. The man bringing in the heroin is the head of the mafia's national crime syndicate,"}, {"start": "02:03:06", "end": "02:03:12", "text": "Lucky Luchiano. That was a surprise. The mob didn't deal drugs, but maybe things"}, {"start": "02:03:12", "end": "02:03:17", "text": "changed. Anslinger sent agents to Sicily where they caught Luchiano preparing a"}, {"start": "02:03:17", "end": "02:03:22", "text": "half-tonon shipment of heroin heading to New York City by way of Havana. Now, the US government didn't have jurisdiction"}, {"start": "02:03:22", "end": "02:03:29", "text": "in Sicily, so they brought in the local police. They refused to make an arrest. Anslinger called the State Department"}, {"start": "02:03:29", "end": "02:03:35", "text": "for help. After a few transfers, his call is finally connected to the US embassy in Polarmo. A young man picks up"}, {"start": "02:03:35", "end": "02:03:42", "text": "the phone and says, \"Sorry, commissioner. Have your agent stand down. Ly's with us.\" Anslinger was"}, {"start": "02:03:42", "end": "02:03:49", "text": "confused. He asks, \"What do you mean us?\" The response was the last thing Harry Anslinger expected to hear. Lucky"}, {"start": "02:03:49", "end": "02:03:56", "text": "Luchano, one of the world's most notorious crime bosses, was working for the CIA."}, {"start": "02:04:04", "end": "02:04:11", "text": "After World War II, Europe was divided. The Western Allies controlled West Germany while the Soviets held the East."}, {"start": "02:04:11", "end": "02:04:16", "text": "As former allies became enemies, the Cold War began."}, {"start": "02:04:16", "end": "02:04:23", "text": "The Soviet Union suffered massive losses liberating countries as it marched to Berlin. And those liberated countries,"}, {"start": "02:04:23", "end": "02:04:31", "text": "they weren't giving them back. Poland, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, they became Soviet satellite states. And the Soviets"}, {"start": "02:04:31", "end": "02:04:36", "text": "wanted more. How much more? Nobody knew. Europe was in ruins. But the Russian"}, {"start": "02:04:36", "end": "02:04:41", "text": "army was still strong. If they pushed west, they would be hard to stop. The"}, {"start": "02:04:41", "end": "02:04:48", "text": "Allies needed a plan to contain the Soviets. So they turned to Alan Dulles of the CIA, America's new intelligence"}, {"start": "02:04:48", "end": "02:04:54", "text": "agency. During the war, the Office of Strategic Services, or the OSS, coordinated"}, {"start": "02:04:54", "end": "02:05:01", "text": "espionage and covert operations. Alan Dulles was the OSS station chief in Switzerland."}, {"start": "02:05:01", "end": "02:05:07", "text": "He watched the Soviet Union closely, and he didn't trust them. They may be temporary allies, but they were"}, {"start": "02:05:07", "end": "02:05:12", "text": "communists. Dulles believed in using every tool available to fight communism."}, {"start": "02:05:12", "end": "02:05:18", "text": "A radical plan to stop Soviet expansion landed on his desk. It focused on training small groups of citizen"}, {"start": "02:05:18", "end": "02:05:24", "text": "soldiers in sabotage, supply raids, propaganda, and guerrilla warfare. These"}, {"start": "02:05:24", "end": "02:05:31", "text": "staybehind soldiers would resist Soviet influence, even if their governments fell."}, {"start": "02:05:31", "end": "02:05:40", "text": "The White House loved the idea. The only question was, who would lead this secret army? Alan Dulles had the answer. Nazis."}, {"start": "02:05:40", "end": "02:05:45", "text": "How great. What could possibly go wrong?"}, {"start": "02:05:52", "end": "02:05:58", "text": "Operation Paperclip was a covert US intelligence program that brought Nazi scientists, engineers, and technicians"}, {"start": "02:05:58", "end": "02:06:05", "text": "to America after World War II. Many of these scientists had been implicated in war crimes and human rights abuses. But"}, {"start": "02:06:05", "end": "02:06:13", "text": "the US looked the other way. Dr. Kurt Blom was one of the Nazis leading experts in biowarfare. He"}, {"start": "02:06:13", "end": "02:06:19", "text": "conducted horrible experiments on concentration camp inmates. After the war, Blom was arrested and would have"}, {"start": "02:06:19", "end": "02:06:25", "text": "been hanged, but America intervened and he went to work for the CIA. Yeah. As a Nazi, he used chemicals on"}, {"start": "02:06:25", "end": "02:06:30", "text": "people against their will. Uh, what did he do for the CIA? Well, he worked for the MK Ultra program."}, {"start": "02:06:30", "end": "02:06:37", "text": "Using chemicals on people against their will. Yep. Ah, at least he was consistent."}, {"start": "02:06:37", "end": "02:06:44", "text": "Dr. Eric Trab was a top Nazi bioweapons designer. After the war, he worked for the US Army and helped launch the germ"}, {"start": "02:06:44", "end": "02:06:50", "text": "warfare lab on Plum Island in New York. And what happened there was bad."}, {"start": "02:06:50", "end": "02:06:55", "text": "How is a Plum Island link down in a place with all this stuff?"}, {"start": "02:06:55", "end": "02:07:01", "text": "Arthur Rudolph, Walter Dornberger, and Verer von Braun developed the V2 rocket that killed thousands of people in"}, {"start": "02:07:01", "end": "02:07:08", "text": "London. V2 rockets were built using forced labor from concentration camps. They later worked for NASA and built the"}, {"start": "02:07:08", "end": "02:07:13", "text": "rockets that went to the moon. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let me fix that for you. They later worked for NASA and"}, {"start": "02:07:13", "end": "02:07:21", "text": "built rockets that never went to the moon. Fake moon landing link down there, too. By the way,"}, {"start": "02:07:21", "end": "02:07:27", "text": "about 1,600 Nazi scientists were recruited by the United States. A lot of them were connected to war crimes and"}, {"start": "02:07:27", "end": "02:07:33", "text": "unethical experiments, but their backgrounds were sanitized to avoid public backlash."}, {"start": "02:07:33", "end": "02:07:40", "text": "Yes, Nazis were evil, but to the Americans, they were a necessary evil used to prevent Soviet expansion."}, {"start": "02:07:40", "end": "02:07:46", "text": "General Reinhardt Gellan was Hitler's intelligence chief for the Eastern Front. He had a reputation for abusing"}, {"start": "02:07:46", "end": "02:07:54", "text": "Soviet PS to extract information. After the war, the Soviets wanted him charged with war crimes. Gellen offered the"}, {"start": "02:07:54", "end": "02:07:59", "text": "United States all of his Soviet intelligence files, and in exchange, he wanted protection and a role in future"}, {"start": "02:07:59", "end": "02:08:05", "text": "operations. The US agreed. Under Operation Paperclip, Gellen became"}, {"start": "02:08:05", "end": "02:08:13", "text": "an American asset. All war crimes were forgiven. Gellen worked with the CIA to stop Soviet aggression. The CIA was a"}, {"start": "02:08:13", "end": "02:08:19", "text": "civilian organization. It wasn't armed or militarized. It only gathered intelligence. Gellen needed something"}, {"start": "02:08:19", "end": "02:08:26", "text": "with more teeth. He built a new organization focused on the Soviet Union."}, {"start": "02:08:26", "end": "02:08:32", "text": "It was more than just for intelligence gathering. They would be a paramilitary organization trained in guerrilla"}, {"start": "02:08:32", "end": "02:08:39", "text": "warfare and sabotage. Gellen's first recruits were Hitler youth and former Nazi soldiers. He called them"}, {"start": "02:08:39", "end": "02:08:45", "text": "werewolves. They were ordinary citizens by day and communist killers by night."}, {"start": "02:08:45", "end": "02:08:52", "text": "Alan Dulles loved it. Gellan's werewolves would be the secret army the CIA didn't have. Resources poured in"}, {"start": "02:08:52", "end": "02:09:00", "text": "from the US and the UK and Gellen set up a network of secret supply caches all over Germany."}, {"start": "02:09:02", "end": "02:09:08", "text": "The new German government didn't know these secret staybehind armies existed until a former Nazi officer exposed the"}, {"start": "02:09:08", "end": "02:09:14", "text": "operation. The Americans were caught funding a secret Nazi army led by the"}, {"start": "02:09:14", "end": "02:09:21", "text": "brutal General Reinhard Gellen. This was horrifying news. The new German government ordered a full investigation,"}, {"start": "02:09:21", "end": "02:09:27", "text": "but that never happened. The CIA had the investigation closed and covered up. It"}, {"start": "02:09:27", "end": "02:09:34", "text": "didn't matter that the operation was illegal. The werewolves were necessary. The Soviet Union was strong and getting"}, {"start": "02:09:34", "end": "02:09:40", "text": "stronger. Then a new threat emerged. In 1947, communists were winning local"}, {"start": "02:09:40", "end": "02:09:46", "text": "elections all over Italy. National elections were coming up. Italy was becoming the first communist country in"}, {"start": "02:09:46", "end": "02:09:52", "text": "Western Europe. This was unacceptable. It would"}, {"start": "02:09:52", "end": "02:09:59", "text": "undermine America's position in Europe and increase Soviet influence. The CIA wanted Gellan's guerrilla warfare plan"}, {"start": "02:09:59", "end": "02:10:06", "text": "expanded and brought to Italy. They would recruit hundreds of paramilitary soldiers starting in Rome. This new army"}, {"start": "02:10:06", "end": "02:10:13", "text": "would be called Operation Gladadio, named for the Gladius, the sword used by Roman soldiers. Recruits would be"}, {"start": "02:10:13", "end": "02:10:19", "text": "trained by US and British special forces and given all the tools and tactics needed to fight communism in Italy. The"}, {"start": "02:10:19", "end": "02:10:26", "text": "CIA just needed one last thing to get Gladadio running. A lot of cocaine."}, {"start": "02:10:34", "end": "02:10:41", "text": "The CIA would use Operation Gladadio to create fear and instability in Italy. They would spread propaganda, infiltrate"}, {"start": "02:10:41", "end": "02:10:47", "text": "political events, bribe police, politicians, and disrupt demonstrations. They had to convince citizens that the"}, {"start": "02:10:47", "end": "02:10:54", "text": "Italian Communist Party was a dangerous threat. A secret agreement was made with Italian"}, {"start": "02:10:54", "end": "02:11:00", "text": "military intelligence. If Gladio needed to escalate, they would commit acts of violence and pin the blame on Italian"}, {"start": "02:11:00", "end": "02:11:06", "text": "communists. The 1948 national election was approaching. Gladadio had to act fast."}, {"start": "02:11:06", "end": "02:11:14", "text": "This operation needed planning and a lot of money. Small problem. Congress controlled the money and wasn't aware of"}, {"start": "02:11:14", "end": "02:11:20", "text": "Operation Gladadio. Asking for funding would reveal its existence, defeating its purpose. The money had to come from"}, {"start": "02:11:20", "end": "02:11:26", "text": "somewhere else, and it had to be kept secret. CIA officer Colonel Paul Helwell"}, {"start": "02:11:26", "end": "02:11:32", "text": "had a solution. He worked with the Chinese National Army fighting Ma Dong's communists."}, {"start": "02:11:32", "end": "02:11:39", "text": "Shanghai Czech funded the Chinese National Army by selling opium. Hell smuggled opium into China using Civil"}, {"start": "02:11:39", "end": "02:11:46", "text": "Air Transport, an airline owned by Chinese nationalists. That airline was sold to the Airdell Corporation, a quiet"}, {"start": "02:11:46", "end": "02:11:52", "text": "little American company running out of a fake address in Delaware. Oh, so the CIA bought the planes?"}, {"start": "02:11:52", "end": "02:11:57", "text": "They did. The planes joined the CIA's secret fleet, the infamous Air America, that"}, {"start": "02:11:57", "end": "02:12:02", "text": "ran drugs to war zones for decades. Alan Dulles loved the idea of funding"}, {"start": "02:12:02", "end": "02:12:09", "text": "Gladadio with untraceable drug money. But Gladadio needed a lot of money. They'd have to flood American cities"}, {"start": "02:12:09", "end": "02:12:15", "text": "with drugs. Getting the product wasn't the problem. The CIA had all the cocaine and heroin it needed. The problem was"}, {"start": "02:12:15", "end": "02:12:21", "text": "distribution. They'd need a small army of drug dealers to cover the entire country."}, {"start": "02:12:21", "end": "02:12:28", "text": "Luckily, a network was already in place. It was organized, had logistics, had security, and they already had plenty of"}, {"start": "02:12:28", "end": "02:12:35", "text": "customers. The CIA found its perfect partner in crime. They'd use the mafia."}, {"start": "02:12:41", "end": "02:12:47", "text": "The relationship between the mafia and the CIA began a long time ago. During World War II, German submarines were"}, {"start": "02:12:47", "end": "02:12:52", "text": "threatening the American coastline. The military couldn't monitor every dock and waterfront, so it got help from the one"}, {"start": "02:12:52", "end": "02:12:59", "text": "organization that could, the mafia. US intelligence cut a deal with mob boss"}, {"start": "02:12:59", "end": "02:13:05", "text": "Charles Lucky Luchiano, who was in prison. In exchange for his cooperation, Lucky received a reduced sentence and"}, {"start": "02:13:05", "end": "02:13:12", "text": "other perks. What? He broke. He did. Omea is the mafia code of"}, {"start": "02:13:12", "end": "02:13:16", "text": "silence. You don't talk to authorities."}, {"start": "02:13:17", "end": "02:13:22", "text": "Snitches get snitches. I know what it means."}, {"start": "02:13:23", "end": "02:13:30", "text": "Oh, hey. Why are you so upset? Well, I used to run with a crew in Jersey. I don't like a rat."}, {"start": "02:13:30", "end": "02:13:36", "text": "You were an organized crime. Yeah, we prefer the term family business. Thank you very much. Uh, but yeah, I was"}, {"start": "02:13:36", "end": "02:13:42", "text": "with the Pes family. Wait, wait, wait. It's a story for another time. Oh, maybe our next sponsor, perhaps."}, {"start": "02:13:42", "end": "02:13:49", "text": "Good idea. So, when the CIA needed to move heroin, they knew who to call. Lucky Luchiano and his mafia syndicate."}, {"start": "02:13:49", "end": "02:13:55", "text": "Death. At the time, the mafia avoided drugs. Well, they used heroin to keep"}, {"start": "02:13:55", "end": "02:14:02", "text": "prostitutes in line, but they didn't sell drugs. It was considered dishonorable. But when the CIA came calling, Lucky Luchiano made an"}, {"start": "02:14:02", "end": "02:14:07", "text": "exception. The money was just too big. They made him an offer he couldn't refuse."}, {"start": "02:14:07", "end": "02:14:13", "text": "Right. Besides, the mafia didn't want communists in power either. Commies are bad for family business."}, {"start": "02:14:13", "end": "02:14:19", "text": "They are. Organized crime would become a target in a communist state. The mafia and the CIA"}, {"start": "02:14:19", "end": "02:14:25", "text": "like things the way they were. So, business fronts were set up in Sicily and Italy. Heroin was smuggled into the"}, {"start": "02:14:25", "end": "02:14:32", "text": "US, hidden in everyday items like sardine cans, wheels of cheese, and barrels of olive oil. Jimmy Hafa and the"}, {"start": "02:14:32", "end": "02:14:38", "text": "teamsters moved the drugs around the country. The operation instantly generated a ton of cash."}, {"start": "02:14:38", "end": "02:14:43", "text": "A lot of people chase that dragon. Yep. Heroin was good business. Operation"}, {"start": "02:14:43", "end": "02:14:50", "text": "Gladadio now had its funding. But there's still a problem. Cash couldn't be paid directly to the CIA or the"}, {"start": "02:14:50", "end": "02:14:56", "text": "mafia. It had to be laundered through a legitimate financial institution. But walking into a bank with millions in"}, {"start": "02:14:56", "end": "02:15:03", "text": "cash sets off a red flag or two. They needed a bank that could handle cash without scrutiny from US Treasury"}, {"start": "02:15:03", "end": "02:15:09", "text": "agents, Italian bank examiners, or the international monitors. Only one bank on"}, {"start": "02:15:09", "end": "02:15:14", "text": "the planet could do this. the Vatican."}, {"start": "02:15:20", "end": "02:15:25", "text": "The Institute for Works of Religion or Vatican Bank was founded in 1942 to"}, {"start": "02:15:25", "end": "02:15:30", "text": "safeguard property for religious work or for charity. It only accepts deposits"}, {"start": "02:15:30", "end": "02:15:37", "text": "from top church officials. Five cardinals oversee transactions and report to the Pope, and that's all we"}, {"start": "02:15:37", "end": "02:15:43", "text": "know. It's the most secret bank in the world. Exactly what the CIA needed. Yeah. You know what else the CIA needed"}, {"start": "02:15:43", "end": "02:15:50", "text": "that bank for? I'd rather just keep going. Two words. Alien bodies. The Vatican bank is hiding alien bodies."}, {"start": "02:15:50", "end": "02:15:57", "text": "Yep. They grab him, bag him, tag him, and store them in the basement archives. You know, there is something suspicious about the Vatican secret archives."}, {"start": "02:15:57", "end": "02:16:02", "text": "Now you're starting to see. Come swim with me, human. Swim with me"}, {"start": "02:16:02", "end": "02:16:09", "text": "and open thine eyes that thou mayest behold the world in its true form."}, {"start": "02:16:09", "end": "02:16:15", "text": "The Vatican Bank isn't subject to international law. It doesn't report to any agency or government, only to the"}, {"start": "02:16:15", "end": "02:16:22", "text": "Pope. It was perfect for laundering drug money. And of course, the church would get a cut. Yeah, the family business. Everybody wet"}, {"start": "02:16:22", "end": "02:16:27", "text": "their beak. The Vatican was familiar with black money from the United States. The church"}, {"start": "02:16:27", "end": "02:16:35", "text": "helped the OSS create rat lines to move the important Nazis out of Europe. Plus, the church was anti-communist. Communism"}, {"start": "02:16:35", "end": "02:16:40", "text": "threatened the power of the United States, threatened the power of the mafia, and threatened the power of the"}, {"start": "02:16:40", "end": "02:16:45", "text": "church. So, this unlikely partnership was formed, and the CIA started sending"}, {"start": "02:16:45", "end": "02:16:53", "text": "millions of dollars in cash to the Vatican. Operation Gladadio launched in 1948, just in time for Italy's national"}, {"start": "02:16:53", "end": "02:17:00", "text": "election. The CIA, with help from the church, used psychological warfare to create fear of a communist takeover."}, {"start": "02:17:00", "end": "02:17:07", "text": "Communism would bring violence, economic collapse, and the loss of religious freedoms. It worked. The Communist Party"}, {"start": "02:17:07", "end": "02:17:14", "text": "was defeated. The CIA was thrilled. They were able to change the outcome of a sovereign country's democratic election,"}, {"start": "02:17:14", "end": "02:17:21", "text": "and they didn't have to use the secret Gladio Army. But what good is an army if you don't use it? So, the CIA sent word"}, {"start": "02:17:21", "end": "02:17:28", "text": "to the Gladadio soldiers, \"Prepare for war.\" It would take a few years to organize, but Gladadio was finally ready"}, {"start": "02:17:28", "end": "02:17:33", "text": "to enter its second phase, terrorism."}, {"start": "02:17:39", "end": "02:17:46", "text": "Italian politics stabilized briefly, but the Cold War intensified and Italy was on the front line. The Italian Communist"}, {"start": "02:17:46", "end": "02:17:52", "text": "Party, though defeated, remained a force. Violence was coming."}, {"start": "02:17:52", "end": "02:17:58", "text": "On December 12th, 1969, a bomb in Milan's National Agrarian Bank killed 17"}, {"start": "02:17:58", "end": "02:18:06", "text": "and injured 88. Anarchists were blamed. In 1972, the Red Brigades, a communist"}, {"start": "02:18:06", "end": "02:18:13", "text": "group, rigged a car bomb in Pano. It killed three police officers."}, {"start": "02:18:14", "end": "02:18:20", "text": "Italy had entered the years of lead. Far-left and far-right groups committed acts of violence. Bombings,"}, {"start": "02:18:20", "end": "02:18:27", "text": "assassinations, and kidnappings plagued the entire country. Something had to be done."}, {"start": "02:18:27", "end": "02:18:34", "text": "Prime Minister Julia Andreatti proposed a new, more stable government, but it was up to Parliament to decide. So, a"}, {"start": "02:18:34", "end": "02:18:40", "text": "vote was set for March 16th, 1978. Meanwhile, Aldorro, a five-term prime"}, {"start": "02:18:40", "end": "02:18:45", "text": "minister, supported the historic compromise. This plan would give the Italian"}, {"start": "02:18:45", "end": "02:18:51", "text": "Communist Party a larger role in the government. Now, Morrow wasn't a communist, but the"}, {"start": "02:18:51", "end": "02:18:58", "text": "Communist Party had a lot of public support. He feared excluding the party would lead to more violence. So, Morrow"}, {"start": "02:18:58", "end": "02:19:04", "text": "would present his historic compromise plan to Parliament just before the vote. The CIA wouldn't like that."}, {"start": "02:19:04", "end": "02:19:11", "text": "Well, it didn't matter. Morrow never made it to Parliament. The red brigades kidnapped him that"}, {"start": "02:19:11", "end": "02:19:17", "text": "morning and murdered him weeks later. Mororrow's death killed the historic compromise. And Riotti's new government"}, {"start": "02:19:17", "end": "02:19:23", "text": "proceeded without the communist party. I don't believe in coincidences. Well, neither did journalist Mino"}, {"start": "02:19:23", "end": "02:19:28", "text": "Picarelli. He published an article with a really provocative theory about what really"}, {"start": "02:19:28", "end": "02:19:35", "text": "happened to Alamorro. Pegarelli had discovered Prime Minister Andriotti's connections to the Sicilian mafia, and"}, {"start": "02:19:35", "end": "02:19:40", "text": "he openly wondered if Andreati ordered or was complicit in Amoro's death."}, {"start": "02:19:40", "end": "02:19:47", "text": "Pearli thought Italian intelligence might have aided the Red Brigades. He implied Operation Gladadio members and"}, {"start": "02:19:47", "end": "02:19:53", "text": "foreign intelligence agencies like the CIA could be involved. Now, Pearli didn't have hard evidence, but he"}, {"start": "02:19:53", "end": "02:20:00", "text": "believed there was a conspiracy between Andriyotti, the mafia, and CIA. He knew if he kept digging, he'd find proof."}, {"start": "02:20:00", "end": "02:20:06", "text": "Oh boy. This is the kind of thing that'll get you whacked. Uh, what happened? Pecarelli was found dead in his car on"}, {"start": "02:20:06", "end": "02:20:13", "text": "March 20th, 1979. Shot four times. And there it is."}, {"start": "02:20:19", "end": "02:20:26", "text": "Through the 1970s and 80s, the years of lead continued in Italy. More bombings and assassinations. The bodies were"}, {"start": "02:20:26", "end": "02:20:32", "text": "piling up. In 1984, Judge Feliche Cassone, a young"}, {"start": "02:20:32", "end": "02:20:39", "text": "ambitious magistrate, investigated these attacks and saw a disturbing pattern. Military explosives like C4 were often"}, {"start": "02:20:39", "end": "02:20:46", "text": "used. Communist groups were usually blamed, but few arrests were made. His breakthrough came when Vincenzo Vincigua"}, {"start": "02:20:46", "end": "02:20:52", "text": "confessed to the Pettato bombing. He said his group was armed and trained by Italian military intelligence. That's"}, {"start": "02:20:52", "end": "02:20:59", "text": "where they got the C4. Their orders were to cause disruption and violence and frame communists. This was state"}, {"start": "02:20:59", "end": "02:21:04", "text": "sponsored terrorism. Then things got worse."}, {"start": "02:21:04", "end": "02:21:10", "text": "Cassone got a call from the local police. They had confiscated a briefcase from a local politician. It contained"}, {"start": "02:21:10", "end": "02:21:17", "text": "documents describing a plan to take over the Italian government. Cassone couldn't believe it. The officer said, \"There's"}, {"start": "02:21:17", "end": "02:21:24", "text": "more.\" The suitcase had a false bottom with more hidden documents. Cassone asked what they found. The officer"}, {"start": "02:21:24", "end": "02:21:29", "text": "sounded nervous and said, \"Sir, we can't tell you over the phone.\""}, {"start": "02:21:29", "end": "02:21:35", "text": "Casson went to the police station to read the documents and was speechless. The documents confirmed hundreds of"}, {"start": "02:21:35", "end": "02:21:42", "text": "innocent people were killed in bombings by groups working for Italian military intelligence. Person followed the lead."}, {"start": "02:21:42", "end": "02:21:47", "text": "He gained access to Italy's military intelligence archives. That's when he learned these attacks were connected to"}, {"start": "02:21:47", "end": "02:21:53", "text": "Operation Gladadio launched by the CIA. Kasone now had evidence that a secret"}, {"start": "02:21:53", "end": "02:21:59", "text": "unit in military intelligence was conducting guerilla operations against its own people. Even more shocking, it"}, {"start": "02:21:59", "end": "02:22:06", "text": "wasn't just Italy. Operation Gladadio was conceived in Germany by former Nazis, expanded in Italy, and then"}, {"start": "02:22:06", "end": "02:22:13", "text": "spread across NATO. Cassone uncovered attacks all over Europe. Germany, France, a few in Belgium. All were false"}, {"start": "02:22:13", "end": "02:22:20", "text": "flag operations where civilians were killed intentionally and communists were blamed. Cassone then realized Gladio was"}, {"start": "02:22:20", "end": "02:22:27", "text": "far bigger than he thought. He felt his life was in danger. From July until October of 1990, I was"}, {"start": "02:22:27", "end": "02:22:34", "text": "the only one who knew about Operation Gladadio, who was not already part of the conspiracy."}, {"start": "02:22:34", "end": "02:22:40", "text": "Prime Minister Andriotti initially denied knowing anything about Gladadio, but in 1990, under political pressure,"}, {"start": "02:22:40", "end": "02:22:46", "text": "he confirmed Operation Gladadio was real and had operations throughout Europe. Now, most countries denied involvement"}, {"start": "02:22:46", "end": "02:22:52", "text": "at first, but there was too much evidence. Finally, NATO said that these stay behind armies were real, but only"}, {"start": "02:22:52", "end": "02:22:57", "text": "for defense. The US and UK continued to maintain a no comment policy on"}, {"start": "02:22:57", "end": "02:23:04", "text": "Gladadio. The truth coming out put Prime Minister Andreati under tremendous scrutiny. Eventually, he was arrested"}, {"start": "02:23:04", "end": "02:23:11", "text": "and charged with being complicit in the murders of Pecarelli and Morrow. After multiple trials and appeals, he was"}, {"start": "02:23:11", "end": "02:23:16", "text": "acquitted for lack of evidence and cleared of all charges. Yeah, he had friends in right places. Eh,"}, {"start": "02:23:16", "end": "02:23:23", "text": "he did. He was important to the cause. Andriotti oversaw operation Gladadio in"}, {"start": "02:23:23", "end": "02:23:30", "text": "Italy. About 30 acts of violence were directly linked to Gladadio with 150 more suspected. Around 600 innocent"}, {"start": "02:23:30", "end": "02:23:37", "text": "people died from Gladadio bombs with twice as many injured. If all suspected attacks are proven to be Gladiore"}, {"start": "02:23:37", "end": "02:23:44", "text": "related, the death toll is in the thousands. No one has answered for these crimes. Over the years, as more innocent"}, {"start": "02:23:44", "end": "02:23:50", "text": "bodies piled up, the CIA said it needed more money and power. Communism was taking root all over the world. So, they"}, {"start": "02:23:50", "end": "02:23:57", "text": "got more money and power. The agency became militarized. It now had its own secret army that it could deploy"}, {"start": "02:23:57", "end": "02:24:05", "text": "anywhere there was a Soviet threat. Small problem. It was all a lie."}, {"start": "02:24:10", "end": "02:24:17", "text": "From the 1950s through the 1980s, the USSR was an existential threat to America. The CIA was constantly warning"}, {"start": "02:24:17", "end": "02:24:24", "text": "us of Soviet strength, fueling massive military spending. But was the threat real?"}, {"start": "02:24:24", "end": "02:24:30", "text": "In the 1960s, Americans were terrified of the Soviets. Let us face without panic the reality of"}, {"start": "02:24:30", "end": "02:24:37", "text": "our times. The fact that atom bombs may someday be dropped on our cities."}, {"start": "02:24:37", "end": "02:24:44", "text": "Sputnik launched. Yuri Gagarin went to space. Americans panicked. The Soviets seemed unstoppable. NASA had to be"}, {"start": "02:24:44", "end": "02:24:52", "text": "created. More military spending was needed. But was it? The CIA said yes."}, {"start": "02:24:53", "end": "02:24:58", "text": "The Cuban missile crisis in 1962 almost started a nuclear war. It shall be the"}, {"start": "02:24:58", "end": "02:25:03", "text": "policy of this nation to regard any nuclear missile launched from Cuba"}, {"start": "02:25:03", "end": "02:25:08", "text": "against any nation in the Western Hemisphere as an attack by the Soviet"}, {"start": "02:25:08", "end": "02:25:14", "text": "Union on the United States, requiring a full retaliatory response upon the"}, {"start": "02:25:14", "end": "02:25:20", "text": "Soviet Union. Clearly, war with the Soviet Union was coming. More military spending was"}, {"start": "02:25:20", "end": "02:25:26", "text": "needed. But was it? The CIA said yes. I grew up in the 1980s when military"}, {"start": "02:25:26", "end": "02:25:34", "text": "budgets exploded. Generation Xers like me believed that war was going to break out at any second."}, {"start": "02:25:36", "end": "02:25:44", "text": "We were in an arms race that we couldn't afford to lose. It was a race for survival. But was it? The CIA's job is"}, {"start": "02:25:44", "end": "02:25:50", "text": "to gather intelligence so the US government can make informed decisions. Somehow these decisions always led to"}, {"start": "02:25:50", "end": "02:26:00", "text": "more military funding and more power for intelligence agencies. But the CIA knows best. Or does it?"}, {"start": "02:26:06", "end": "02:26:13", "text": "While the Soviets puffed out their chest in Cuba, their people back home were starving. From 1953 to 1964, they"}, {"start": "02:26:13", "end": "02:26:20", "text": "couldn't produce enough food to feed their population. The CIA didn't know. In the 60s, Americans were told more"}, {"start": "02:26:20", "end": "02:26:28", "text": "military spending was the only way to stop Soviet world domination. In reality, 1964 started 20 years of the"}, {"start": "02:26:28", "end": "02:26:37", "text": "Soviet era of stagnation, not domination. Their economy was falling apart. The CIA didn't know. Yes, in the"}, {"start": "02:26:37", "end": "02:26:42", "text": "1960s, the Soviets poured resources into their space program and their military,"}, {"start": "02:26:42", "end": "02:26:47", "text": "but at the expense of everything else. The state-run system was failing."}, {"start": "02:26:47", "end": "02:26:53", "text": "Productivity was low. Their technology was outdated. There's no incentives for innovation. Their scientists and"}, {"start": "02:26:53", "end": "02:26:59", "text": "engineers were fleeing. It was called a brain drain. The CIA didn't know."}, {"start": "02:26:59", "end": "02:27:06", "text": "In 1985, Soviet President Gorbachoff tried to revitalize the Soviet system. Part of his plan was glasnost, which"}, {"start": "02:27:06", "end": "02:27:12", "text": "means openness. He allowed Soviet citizens more freedom to express themselves. What the people expressed"}, {"start": "02:27:12", "end": "02:27:19", "text": "was they were miserable. We finally learned the truth. Defending against Soviet aggression wasn't a strategy. It"}, {"start": "02:27:19", "end": "02:27:22", "text": "was a sales pitch."}, {"start": "02:27:24", "end": "02:27:30", "text": "Throughout the entire Cold War, American military contractors got wealthy and intelligence agencies grew powerful,"}, {"start": "02:27:30", "end": "02:27:37", "text": "protecting us from a country that was going bankrupt and whose citizens were sick and starving."}, {"start": "02:27:37", "end": "02:27:44", "text": "When the Berlin Wall came down in 1989, the Soviet Union had already been in ruins for years. The whole world saw it."}, {"start": "02:27:44", "end": "02:27:51", "text": "Somehow the CIA didn't know. Gladadio was funded right up until it was exposed in 1990. Gladadio still had armies ready"}, {"start": "02:27:51", "end": "02:27:58", "text": "to repel the expansion of the Soviet Union. But by then there was no Soviet Union. The Baltic states left. Ukraine,"}, {"start": "02:27:58", "end": "02:28:06", "text": "Bellarus, the Central Asian republics. They were on their way out. The CIA didn't know. In 1991, the USSR was"}, {"start": "02:28:06", "end": "02:28:12", "text": "officially dissolved. How did the US respond to its greatest enemy being defeated? It increased its military"}, {"start": "02:28:12", "end": "02:28:23", "text": "spending by 12%. Why? The Cold War was over. The Soviets lost. But I guess the CIA didn't know."}, {"start": "02:28:29", "end": "02:28:36", "text": "Operation Gladadio was real, but is still controversial and classified. The version I've told today isn't official"}, {"start": "02:28:36", "end": "02:28:43", "text": "because nobody knows the whole truth. The CIA does. Well, they do, but they won't tell us. The CIA can't confirm or deny its"}, {"start": "02:28:43", "end": "02:28:48", "text": "participation in any covert operations."}, {"start": "02:28:50", "end": "02:28:55", "text": "Now, the CIA claims it was never involved in drug trafficking. They admit Air America existed for intelligence"}, {"start": "02:28:55", "end": "02:29:01", "text": "gathering and transporting supplies. Yeah, supplies are smack. Smack."}, {"start": "02:29:01", "end": "02:29:06", "text": "Yeah, you know, scag, horse, brown sugar, China white, heroin. What' I say?"}, {"start": "02:29:06", "end": "02:29:11", "text": "The CIA said it never happened. In 1996, journalist Gary Webb linked the CIA to"}, {"start": "02:29:11", "end": "02:29:17", "text": "Nicaraguan Contras trafficking cocaine into the US to fund rebels. Yeah, it sounds familiar,"}, {"start": "02:29:17", "end": "02:29:24", "text": "doesn't it? Did the CIA put drugs into black community? We don't have any evidence so far that"}, {"start": "02:29:24", "end": "02:29:32", "text": "they did it directly. What we have evidence of is that men working for a CIA run army did do that."}, {"start": "02:29:32", "end": "02:29:38", "text": "I will get to the bottom of it and I will let you know the results of what I found. An official 1998 report"}, {"start": "02:29:38", "end": "02:29:45", "text": "investigated Web's claims and finally put the issue to bed. The reports acknowledged that the CIA had worked"}, {"start": "02:29:45", "end": "02:29:53", "text": "with individuals known to be involved in drug trafficking but did not find conclusive evidence that the CIA itself"}, {"start": "02:29:53", "end": "02:30:00", "text": "had facilitated or condoned these activities. Who conducted that investigation?"}, {"start": "02:30:00", "end": "02:30:05", "text": "Uh the CIA did. Oh, they investigated themselves. Yep."}, {"start": "02:30:05", "end": "02:30:10", "text": "Because you know as well as everyone else that the CIA has been dealing drugs"}, {"start": "02:30:10", "end": "02:30:17", "text": "throughout the world and bringing drugs into this country since Vietnam's war. You brought them in here in body bags."}, {"start": "02:30:17", "end": "02:30:24", "text": "You wearing the golden triangle. So you're going to come in this community and insult us and tell us that you're going to investigate yourself. You got"}, {"start": "02:30:24", "end": "02:30:30", "text": "to be crazy. Whistleblowers, including federal agents, said they witnessed CIA"}, {"start": "02:30:30", "end": "02:30:35", "text": "involvement in moving drugs. The head of the DEA at the time, Robert Bonner, said"}, {"start": "02:30:35", "end": "02:30:40", "text": "that a ton of pure cocaine worth hundreds of millions of dollars had been"}, {"start": "02:30:40", "end": "02:30:48", "text": "smuggled into the United States. And he blamed the CIA. We understand what you're saying. A ton of cocaine was"}, {"start": "02:30:48", "end": "02:30:54", "text": "smuggled into the United States of America. Well, they in cooperation with the CIA."}, {"start": "02:30:54", "end": "02:30:59", "text": "That's what that's exactly what appears to have happened. Declassified documents"}, {"start": "02:30:59", "end": "02:31:06", "text": "show the US government, including CIA, associated with known drug traffickers. They overlook these activities to start"}, {"start": "02:31:06", "end": "02:31:14", "text": "communism. Yep. If you ask the question, uh, did the CIA"}, {"start": "02:31:14", "end": "02:31:20", "text": "sell drugs in the black neighborhoods of Los Angeles to finance the Contra War?"}, {"start": "02:31:20", "end": "02:31:27", "text": "The answer will be a categorical no. Now having said that and what is true is the"}, {"start": "02:31:27", "end": "02:31:32", "text": "policymakers absolutely closed their eyes to the criminal behavior of our"}, {"start": "02:31:32", "end": "02:31:39", "text": "allies and supporters in that war. The policy makers ignored their drug dealing, their stealing and their human"}, {"start": "02:31:39", "end": "02:31:42", "text": "rights violations."}, {"start": "02:31:48", "end": "02:31:56", "text": "The CIA didn't admit to working with organized crime, but investigations and declassified documents show they did."}, {"start": "02:31:56", "end": "02:32:03", "text": "The Vatican and CIA haven't confirmed any financial arrangement. But there's a lot of indirect evidence of Vatican"}, {"start": "02:32:03", "end": "02:32:08", "text": "support for anti-communist activities, but no hard proof. That's why they use that bank,"}, {"start": "02:32:08", "end": "02:32:15", "text": "right? So, what's the truth? We don't know. All I can do is give you my opinion. I know we need a strong"}, {"start": "02:32:15", "end": "02:32:21", "text": "military and intelligence agencies. And this episode isn't about communism or the military. This episode is about the"}, {"start": "02:32:21", "end": "02:32:27", "text": "lies we've been told for years by the people who swore to protect us. Now, do I believe that the Soviet threat was"}, {"start": "02:32:27", "end": "02:32:35", "text": "exaggerated in order to line the pockets of military contractors and expand the power of the CIA? Come on. Of course, we"}, {"start": "02:32:35", "end": "02:32:41", "text": "were told this would happen. President Eisenhower warned us about the military-industrial complex. He said,"}, {"start": "02:32:41", "end": "02:32:47", "text": "\"If we let the defense companies become too powerful, they'll undermine democracy and influence policy to serve"}, {"start": "02:32:47", "end": "02:32:52", "text": "their own financial interests.\" Ike nailed it. That's what happened. CIA"}, {"start": "02:32:52", "end": "02:32:59", "text": "operations like overthrowing governments concerned Eisenhower. He knew intelligence agencies were necessary,"}, {"start": "02:32:59", "end": "02:33:06", "text": "but stressed the need for transparency and oversight, otherwise the agencies would become a law unto themselves. Ike"}, {"start": "02:33:06", "end": "02:33:12", "text": "nailed it again. That's what happened. JFK often asked Eisenhower for advice."}, {"start": "02:33:12", "end": "02:33:18", "text": "Ike told him, \"Don't let the intelligence agencies have too much power.\" At first, JFK trusted them, but"}, {"start": "02:33:18", "end": "02:33:23", "text": "then in 1961, he signed off on the CIA's plan to overthrow Cuba's government. The"}, {"start": "02:33:23", "end": "02:33:29", "text": "Bay of Pigs invasion was a disaster. The CIA botched it. It embarrassed America"}, {"start": "02:33:29", "end": "02:33:35", "text": "and solidified the relationship between Cuba and the Soviet Union. JFK started to believe that maybe the CIA was doing"}, {"start": "02:33:35", "end": "02:33:40", "text": "more harm than good and needed to be reformed or even dismantled and rebuilt."}, {"start": "02:33:40", "end": "02:33:46", "text": "Their growing power was undermining democracy, just as Eisenhower warned."}, {"start": "02:33:46", "end": "02:33:52", "text": "During the 1960s, there was another serious threat to democracy, organized crime."}, {"start": "02:33:52", "end": "02:33:58", "text": "The mob ran the labor unions and important businesses. They could buy judges, influence politicians. They were"}, {"start": "02:33:58", "end": "02:34:05", "text": "powerful enough to change the outcome of elections. Some say the mafia helped JFK get elected, which would be ironic"}, {"start": "02:34:05", "end": "02:34:11", "text": "because JFK's victory brought the mafia a big problem, his brother Robert. As"}, {"start": "02:34:11", "end": "02:34:18", "text": "attorney general, RFK prioritized fighting organized crime. I think what in the world of organized"}, {"start": "02:34:18", "end": "02:34:24", "text": "crime, I think it's in a very nefarious situation is facing the country at the frozen time. John F. Kennedy was assassinated on"}, {"start": "02:34:24", "end": "02:34:29", "text": "November 22nd, 1963. Robert F. Kennedy about to run for president was"}, {"start": "02:34:29", "end": "02:34:34", "text": "assassinated 5 years later in 1968. As JFK's attorney general and confidant,"}, {"start": "02:34:34", "end": "02:34:41", "text": "RFK would have continued his brother's policies. He also pledged to reopen the investigation into JFK's murder if he"}, {"start": "02:34:41", "end": "02:34:46", "text": "was elected. Now, why reopen an investigation? I thought this was all solved."}, {"start": "02:34:46", "end": "02:34:53", "text": "A president on a crusade against the CIA killed. A potential president on a crusade against the mafia killed. Now,"}, {"start": "02:34:53", "end": "02:35:01", "text": "we know the official stories. JFK, Lee Harvey Oswald, a lone gunman, case closed. RFK, Sirhan, Sirhan, lone"}, {"start": "02:35:01", "end": "02:35:06", "text": "gunman, case closed. But there are other theories with real evidence that place"}, {"start": "02:35:06", "end": "02:35:12", "text": "the blame not on lone gunmen, but on two powerful organizations. Two organizations with the motive,"}, {"start": "02:35:12", "end": "02:35:17", "text": "opportunity, and means. The CIA and the mafia. Now, whether the CIA and the"}, {"start": "02:35:17", "end": "02:35:24", "text": "mafia were involved in the assassinations, I'm not sure. But I am sure of one thing. They've both mastered"}, {"start": "02:35:24", "end": "02:35:27", "text": "organized crime."}, {"start": "02:35:30", "end": "02:35:35", "text": "5 plus 0. Now, I love World War II history, so it made me happy that the episode performed"}, {"start": "02:35:35", "end": "02:35:42", "text": "well. So, we're going to stay with World War II for a few more minutes. This next one is it's one of the strangest"}, {"start": "02:35:42", "end": "02:35:48", "text": "intelligence operations of the war. Now, if you haven't seen it, my notes are"}, {"start": "02:35:48", "end": "02:35:53", "text": "down here. If you haven't seen it, I won't spoil it, but here's a hint. Oh,"}, {"start": "02:35:53", "end": "02:35:58", "text": "sorry. That's not professional. This is about how a crazy race car driver, a"}, {"start": "02:35:58", "end": "02:36:07", "text": "submarine, and a dead body fooled Hitler and led to the creation of James Bond."}, {"start": "02:36:08", "end": "02:36:14", "text": "On April 30th, 1943, in the middle of World War II, a body washed up on the"}, {"start": "02:36:14", "end": "02:36:20", "text": "shore of Welva, Spain. The deceased man was wearing a British military uniform. There was a briefcase strapped to his"}, {"start": "02:36:20", "end": "02:36:27", "text": "body containing British and American military secrets. The man was Major William Martin, a Royal Marine who was"}, {"start": "02:36:27", "end": "02:36:33", "text": "the single victim of a fatal plane crash at sea. He had just returned from temporary leave in London where he had"}, {"start": "02:36:33", "end": "02:36:39", "text": "gone to the theater and purchased an engagement ring for his fiance\u00e9 Pam. But there was something very strange about"}, {"start": "02:36:39", "end": "02:36:44", "text": "Major William Martin. He didn't exist."}, {"start": "02:36:47", "end": "02:36:53", "text": "It was the winter of 1942 and the Allies needed a win. Hitler's Nazi war machine"}, {"start": "02:36:53", "end": "02:36:59", "text": "had steamrolled all of Europe and everybody knew England was next. The United States had just been dragged into"}, {"start": "02:36:59", "end": "02:37:05", "text": "the war by the attack on Pearl Harbor and American bodies were piling up by the thousands. Inside job."}, {"start": "02:37:05", "end": "02:37:11", "text": "What? Pearl Harbor was an inside job. Didn't you see that image that was going around? Show me."}, {"start": "02:37:11", "end": "02:37:18", "text": "See, look at that. How could the planes fly this distance in 1931? Uh, you know, that was meant as a joke."}, {"start": "02:37:18", "end": "02:37:23", "text": "Yeah, maybe. And you know, the Earth is round, right? Allegedly. No, it really is."}, {"start": "02:37:23", "end": "02:37:31", "text": "Could be round, could be flat. You know who's to say? Uh, science is to say. Oh, right. Science. I tried to make air"}, {"start": "02:37:31", "end": "02:37:36", "text": "quotes, but my fins wouldn't bend. Anyway, German forces were better"}, {"start": "02:37:36", "end": "02:37:42", "text": "trained, better equipped, and of singular purpose. But Germany did have a weakness. It's not a country rich in"}, {"start": "02:37:42", "end": "02:37:48", "text": "natural resources. To wage war in the 1940s, you need iron, oil, rubber, and"}, {"start": "02:37:48", "end": "02:37:54", "text": "food. Germany had to import all of these. If the Allies could disrupt Germany's supply lines, the Germans"}, {"start": "02:37:54", "end": "02:38:00", "text": "would no longer have the ability to fight, and the war could come to a quick close. But that was easier said than"}, {"start": "02:38:00", "end": "02:38:07", "text": "done. German engineers were among the best in the world. Every time the German army seized an inch of land, it was"}, {"start": "02:38:07", "end": "02:38:14", "text": "quickly fortified. Any Allied advance on mainland Europe would be repelled and would result in catastrophic losses. But"}, {"start": "02:38:14", "end": "02:38:20", "text": "the coastline of the Mediterranean was not as heavily fortified. UK Prime Minister Winston Churchill called this"}, {"start": "02:38:20", "end": "02:38:27", "text": "the soft underbelly of Europe. The key to taking back Europe was Italy and the key to taking Italy was Sicily."}, {"start": "02:38:27", "end": "02:38:32", "text": "Unfortunately, the Germans understood the strategic importance of Sicily as well. They were fully expecting the"}, {"start": "02:38:32", "end": "02:38:39", "text": "Allies to attack it. And if the Allies had any hope of winning, they'd need the element of surprise. MI5, Britain's"}, {"start": "02:38:39", "end": "02:38:46", "text": "intelligence agency, was tasked with tricking the Germans into thinking the Allies would attack Greece instead. If"}, {"start": "02:38:46", "end": "02:38:52", "text": "the Germans bought the ruse, they would divert forces from Sicily to Greece, leaving Sicily unprotected and ensuring"}, {"start": "02:38:52", "end": "02:38:59", "text": "an easy win for the Allies. One of the British intelligence officers working on crafting this deception was Charles"}, {"start": "02:38:59", "end": "02:39:04", "text": "Chumley. Hang on. What? Chumley? That that's not what it says on the screen. Yeah, I know. That's how he"}, {"start": "02:39:04", "end": "02:39:11", "text": "pronounced his name. Well, he pronounced it wrong. Chumley's primary role in the war effort was an ideas guy. Charles Chumley"}, {"start": "02:39:11", "end": "02:39:17", "text": "remembered a top secret memo distributed to British wartime intelligence at the beginning of the war. It became known as"}, {"start": "02:39:17", "end": "02:39:23", "text": "the trout memo because it compared intelligence to fly fishing. Why would anyone want to catch flies?"}, {"start": "02:39:23", "end": "02:39:30", "text": "No. No. Fly fishermen try to catch fish. Those fishermen. The Trout memo listed"}, {"start": "02:39:30", "end": "02:39:35", "text": "51 specific ideas for fooling the Germans. The list was pretty wacky. It"}, {"start": "02:39:35", "end": "02:39:41", "text": "included dropping glow-in-the-dark footballs in the water to attract submarines. There was one about a fake"}, {"start": "02:39:41", "end": "02:39:47", "text": "treasure ship, and there was another about explosives being disguised as food. But the craziest idea in the Trout"}, {"start": "02:39:47", "end": "02:39:52", "text": "memo was number 28. It involved loading up a corpse with phony documents, then"}, {"start": "02:39:52", "end": "02:39:59", "text": "dropping the corpse from a plane behind enemy lines. And when you read the entire Trout Memo, you can't help but"}, {"start": "02:39:59", "end": "02:40:05", "text": "think whoever thought of this stuff would be great at writing spy novels."}, {"start": "02:40:06", "end": "02:40:12", "text": "The Trout Memo officially was written by Rear Admiral John Godfrey, but it was actually written by Godfreyy's"}, {"start": "02:40:12", "end": "02:40:18", "text": "assistant, Lieutenant Commander Ian Fleming. The same Ian Fleming who went on to become a novelist best known for a"}, {"start": "02:40:18", "end": "02:40:25", "text": "series featuring the character Bond James Bond. Idea number 28 on Ian Fleming's trout memo was titled a"}, {"start": "02:40:25", "end": "02:40:31", "text": "suggestion and not a very nice one. The following suggestion is used in a"}, {"start": "02:40:31", "end": "02:40:36", "text": "book by Basil Thompson. A corpse dressed as an airman with dispatches in his"}, {"start": "02:40:36", "end": "02:40:42", "text": "pockets could be dropped on the coast supposedly from a parachute that had failed. I understand there is no"}, {"start": "02:40:42", "end": "02:40:49", "text": "difficulty in obtaining corpses at the naval hospital, but of course it would have to be a fresh one."}, {"start": "02:40:49", "end": "02:40:55", "text": "The idea was so crazy that Chumley thought it might be just the way to fool the Germans into believing the Allies"}, {"start": "02:40:55", "end": "02:41:01", "text": "were planning to attack Greece instead of Sicily. He presented it to his superiors and they assigned a naval"}, {"start": "02:41:01", "end": "02:41:07", "text": "officer named Euan Montigue to help him develop the plan. Before the war, Euan Montigue was a lawyer. He came from an"}, {"start": "02:41:07", "end": "02:41:14", "text": "extremely wealthy family of bankers and when the war broke out, he was too old for active service but found himself"}, {"start": "02:41:14", "end": "02:41:19", "text": "rising through the ranks of naval intelligence. Uh, you know, I noticed that people from wealthy families tend"}, {"start": "02:41:19", "end": "02:41:25", "text": "to rise through the ranks rather quickly. Yeah, that does seem to be the case. As it turned out, an inclination for"}, {"start": "02:41:25", "end": "02:41:32", "text": "wartime intelligence work ran in the family. Euan didn't know it at the time, but his own brother, Ivor Montigue, was"}, {"start": "02:41:32", "end": "02:41:38", "text": "actually a spy for the Soviet Union. Uh-oh. Well, luckily, the Soviet Union and the United Kingdom were fighting this war on"}, {"start": "02:41:38", "end": "02:41:44", "text": "the same side. A that's true. Uh, so did this. Uh, I Ivor."}, {"start": "02:41:44", "end": "02:41:49", "text": "Ivor. Ivor. Uh, did he stop spying for the Russians after the war? Uh-huh."}, {"start": "02:41:49", "end": "02:41:56", "text": "The Montigus were also Jewish, so Euan's wife and children spent the war in America for safety reasons. Euan wanted"}, {"start": "02:41:56", "end": "02:42:01", "text": "in on this unique operation. To serve his country, of course, but also to keep his mind off how much he missed his"}, {"start": "02:42:01", "end": "02:42:08", "text": "wife. Chumbli and Montigue fleshed out the plan for their mission. They would deliver a dead body via a submarine just"}, {"start": "02:42:08", "end": "02:42:15", "text": "off the coast of Spain. The body would be carrying information identifying him as a Royal Marine and most importantly"}, {"start": "02:42:15", "end": "02:42:21", "text": "falsified documents regarding an upcoming military offensive in Greece. Spain was the ideal country to find the"}, {"start": "02:42:21", "end": "02:42:27", "text": "body because though they were officially neutral, they were in close communication with the Germans. And if"}, {"start": "02:42:27", "end": "02:42:32", "text": "military secrets washed up on the Spanish shores, there was a good chance those secrets would end up in the hands"}, {"start": "02:42:32", "end": "02:42:40", "text": "of the Germans. Chumla and Montigue had the plan. Now they just needed a dead body. But not just any dead body. It had"}, {"start": "02:42:40", "end": "02:42:47", "text": "to be male and of military age. The cause of death needed to line up with the story of a plane crash at sea. So"}, {"start": "02:42:47", "end": "02:42:53", "text": "drowning, exposure, shock, or traumatic injury. And the man shouldn't have any pesky family members who might not"}, {"start": "02:42:53", "end": "02:42:59", "text": "appreciate their loved ones corpse being dressed up as someone else and taken out of the country. E. Montigue was friendly"}, {"start": "02:42:59", "end": "02:43:05", "text": "with a local coroner who agreed to keep an eye out for just such a body. Yeah, it's good to have a corpse guy."}, {"start": "02:43:05", "end": "02:43:11", "text": "It is. And on January 26th, 1943, the coroner called Montigue and told him, \"I"}, {"start": "02:43:11", "end": "02:43:18", "text": "got one.\" Glender Michael had a hard life. His"}, {"start": "02:43:18", "end": "02:43:24", "text": "father attempted suicide by stabbing himself in the neck with a knife. He was taken to a mental hospital where he"}, {"start": "02:43:24", "end": "02:43:30", "text": "caught influenza and later died. His mother struggled to care for the family on her own. They were often homeless and"}, {"start": "02:43:30", "end": "02:43:36", "text": "there was never enough food. Shortly before the war, she died of a heart attack. Glender was declared ineligible"}, {"start": "02:43:36", "end": "02:43:41", "text": "for military service, though it's not clear why. It could have been for poor physical health, poor mental health, or"}, {"start": "02:43:41", "end": "02:43:48", "text": "both. He eventually became homeless and wandered the streets of London. On January 26th, 1943, Glender Michael"}, {"start": "02:43:48", "end": "02:43:54", "text": "consumed rat poison in an abandoned warehouse. It could have been suicide, but most likely he was starving and"}, {"start": "02:43:54", "end": "02:44:00", "text": "found some bread. The bread had been laced with rat poison, and Glender died 2 days later. Death by rat poison is a"}, {"start": "02:44:00", "end": "02:44:07", "text": "rough way to go, but considering the forensic technology available at the time, dying from rat poisoning could"}, {"start": "02:44:07", "end": "02:44:12", "text": "pass for drowning. Chumla Montigue now had a body. Not for long, though."}, {"start": "02:44:12", "end": "02:44:19", "text": "Montigue's coroner buddy, corpse guy, his corpse guy stressed that Glender's body was already starting to decompose."}, {"start": "02:44:19", "end": "02:44:24", "text": "He could keep him on ice, but he needed to be deployed within the next 3 months."}, {"start": "02:44:24", "end": "02:44:31", "text": "At this point, Chumla Montigu's mission had also been given an official code name, Operation Mincemeat. And this was"}, {"start": "02:44:31", "end": "02:44:38", "text": "a dark joke. Mince meat is a recipe combining chopped meat or animal fat with fruit and spices and whatever"}, {"start": "02:44:38", "end": "02:44:43", "text": "you've got lying around. And when those things you've got lying around include sugar and alcohol, it's a good way to"}, {"start": "02:44:43", "end": "02:44:50", "text": "preserve meat. At this time in the UK, people needed to preserve meat to make their rations last longer. But this"}, {"start": "02:44:50", "end": "02:44:55", "text": "time, the meat was a man."}, {"start": "02:44:55", "end": "02:45:01", "text": "It turned out that acquiring a highly specific dead body was the easy part. It's good to have a corpse guy."}, {"start": "02:45:01", "end": "02:45:08", "text": "Now, Montigu and Chumley needed to create a new identity from thin air, and it had to stand up to German scrutiny."}, {"start": "02:45:08", "end": "02:45:14", "text": "He needed to be a military officer if it was going to be believable that he had possession of sensitive documents. They"}, {"start": "02:45:14", "end": "02:45:20", "text": "chose the Royal Marines because it was a common uniform and easy to get. To avoid the uniform looking too new, Chumley"}, {"start": "02:45:20", "end": "02:45:26", "text": "wore it everyday for the next 3 months. Now they needed a name. Montigu and Chumley looked through the list of"}, {"start": "02:45:26", "end": "02:45:32", "text": "servicemen and found several Royal Marines named William Martin who were around the rank of captain. The Germans"}, {"start": "02:45:32", "end": "02:45:39", "text": "likely had access to the same list of names but not their postings. So Montigu and Chumley borrowed the name. The"}, {"start": "02:45:39", "end": "02:45:46", "text": "fictional William Martin also needed identification. Royal Marines carried ID cards on them at all times that included"}, {"start": "02:45:46", "end": "02:45:52", "text": "a picture. Montigue and Chumley attempted to photograph the dead body, but this was unsuccessful."}, {"start": "02:45:52", "end": "02:45:57", "text": "Oh, they couldn't pull a weekend at Bernie's. Well, they tried, but the body was in rough shape and getting worse. The"}, {"start": "02:45:57", "end": "02:46:03", "text": "pictures were frightening. But working in another department was a man who looked similar to Glender Michael, and"}, {"start": "02:46:03", "end": "02:46:09", "text": "he was willing to be photographed. Montigu and Chumley barred his face. There was one more thing they needed,"}, {"start": "02:46:09", "end": "02:46:15", "text": "but this one they wouldn't be able to give back. Underwear. A British military officer at the time would have been"}, {"start": "02:46:15", "end": "02:46:21", "text": "wearing underwear. Underwear was rationed in the UK at the time, meaning you couldn't find it in a store and no"}, {"start": "02:46:21", "end": "02:46:27", "text": "one was giving theirs up. Ah, and this is where the expression go commando comes from. Uh, I don't think that's right."}, {"start": "02:46:27", "end": "02:46:34", "text": "Well, Montyu presented this predicament to one of his superiors. And it just so happened that one of his superiors"}, {"start": "02:46:34", "end": "02:46:40", "text": "academic enemies had recently been run over by a truck. He was delighted to acquire his former colleagues underwear"}, {"start": "02:46:40", "end": "02:46:46", "text": "for operation mincemeat. Montigue and Chumley now turned their attention from the physical to the fictional. They"}, {"start": "02:46:46", "end": "02:46:51", "text": "needed a backstory for Major William Martin. Every night they would go out with a few of their colleagues and fill"}, {"start": "02:46:51", "end": "02:46:57", "text": "in details on William Martin's backstory. He liked fishing and was bad with money. He was romantic and secretly"}, {"start": "02:46:57", "end": "02:47:04", "text": "wanted to be a writer. The team came to view Major William Martin as a friend. The backstory they created would be told"}, {"start": "02:47:04", "end": "02:47:10", "text": "to the Spanish who found the body and hopefully the Germans they showed it to in the form of pocket litter. Pocket"}, {"start": "02:47:10", "end": "02:47:17", "text": "litter is the term for the random stuff people carry in their pockets. For the fictional William Martin, that included"}, {"start": "02:47:17", "end": "02:47:24", "text": "his falsified military ID card, the military documents hinting at the Allied plans to invade Greece, ticket stubs"}, {"start": "02:47:24", "end": "02:47:29", "text": "from the theater, a receipt for an engagement ring, an overdraft letter from the bank, and a photograph and love"}, {"start": "02:47:29", "end": "02:47:36", "text": "letter from his fiance\u00e9 Pam. Gene Leslie, a secretary working at the agency, agreed to provide a photograph."}, {"start": "02:47:36", "end": "02:47:42", "text": "Gan now became Major Martin's fiance\u00e9, Pam. And here's where things get a little awkward. Ewan and Jean began"}, {"start": "02:47:42", "end": "02:47:48", "text": "spending a lot of time together. They went dancing. They went to the movies, but not as themselves, not as Euan and"}, {"start": "02:47:48", "end": "02:47:55", "text": "Jean, as William and Pam. They may have been playing characters, but the romance was real enough that Montigu's own"}, {"start": "02:47:55", "end": "02:48:01", "text": "mother wrote to his wife suggesting she come back to the UK as soon as she could, but there was one last very"}, {"start": "02:48:01", "end": "02:48:07", "text": "important letter to be written. The military communication from a general revealing the supposed joint American"}, {"start": "02:48:07", "end": "02:48:13", "text": "and British attack on Greece. The work on this letter took over a month and after many drafts were written by an"}, {"start": "02:48:13", "end": "02:48:19", "text": "increasingly frustrated you and Montigue, they just had the general write the letter himself. Nobody likes getting notes."}, {"start": "02:48:19", "end": "02:48:26", "text": "That's true. And in the letter was placed a single eyelash. Eyelash. Yep. The British needed to know if the"}, {"start": "02:48:26", "end": "02:48:32", "text": "letter was opened. If the plan worked, they'd have the documents returned to them. If the eyelash was missing, that"}, {"start": "02:48:32", "end": "02:48:38", "text": "means someone opened the letter. Oh, but the month of rewrites was a problem"}, {"start": "02:48:38", "end": "02:48:44", "text": "considering the three-month window given to Operation Minsmeat by the coroner. Hello, Skye. They needed to get Glinder Michael, the"}, {"start": "02:48:44", "end": "02:48:50", "text": "photo of Jean, the worn uniform, the love letters, the dead academics underwear, the allimportant military"}, {"start": "02:48:50", "end": "02:48:56", "text": "document, and the pocket litter to Spain. And they needed to do it fast because acting major William Martin was"}, {"start": "02:48:56", "end": "02:49:03", "text": "starting to rot. At this time, MI5 employed one of the"}, {"start": "02:49:03", "end": "02:49:09", "text": "UK's most famous race car drivers. During the war, Jack Horsefall had been recruited by British intelligence to"}, {"start": "02:49:09", "end": "02:49:16", "text": "provide transportation for its agents when they needed to get somewhere and get out of somewhere fast. In this case,"}, {"start": "02:49:16", "end": "02:49:23", "text": "he needed to transport Euan Montigue, Charles Chumley, and a secret package from England to Scotland, where Euan and"}, {"start": "02:49:23", "end": "02:49:29", "text": "Charles would meet a submarine that would deliver Major William Martin to a specific location off the coast of"}, {"start": "02:49:29", "end": "02:49:35", "text": "Spain. Glender Michael's body had been placed in a special container that was created for this exact purpose. It was"}, {"start": "02:49:35", "end": "02:49:42", "text": "essentially a thin coffin packed with dry ice. This would help keep the body cold, to slow down the decomposition"}, {"start": "02:49:42", "end": "02:49:47", "text": "process, and help keep it secret. It would also save the submarine's crew from being trapped in a small space with"}, {"start": "02:49:47", "end": "02:49:53", "text": "a very bad smell. They decided to travel overnight to risk being seen, but the UK"}, {"start": "02:49:53", "end": "02:49:58", "text": "was under a strict blackout at the time. Every night, entire cities went dark to"}, {"start": "02:49:58", "end": "02:50:04", "text": "make them harder for German bombers to identify from overhead. This meant all street lights were out and all vehicle"}, {"start": "02:50:04", "end": "02:50:10", "text": "headlights had to be covered. So, Montigue and Chumley were going to be driven at high speed by a race car"}, {"start": "02:50:10", "end": "02:50:16", "text": "driver in pitch darkness. And by the way, Jack Horsefall was legally blind and refused to wear glasses."}, {"start": "02:50:16", "end": "02:50:23", "text": "Kind of badass. Well, maybe or stupid. Horsefall wouldn't wear glasses because he was always very well-dressed. He liked"}, {"start": "02:50:23", "end": "02:50:29", "text": "martinis and was famous for driving an Aston Martin. Who just like James Bond?"}, {"start": "02:50:29", "end": "02:50:34", "text": "You'll be using this Aston Martin DB5 with modifications."}, {"start": "02:50:34", "end": "02:50:38", "text": "Now, pay attention, please."}, {"start": "02:50:42", "end": "02:50:48", "text": "James Bomb was a composite character based on real people that Ian Fleming knew, including Jack Horsefall. The"}, {"start": "02:50:48", "end": "02:50:53", "text": "overnight road trip from England to Scotland was crazy and included a couple of close calls, but they made it to"}, {"start": "02:50:53", "end": "02:51:00", "text": "Scotland on time. In Scotland, they met the crew of the submarine HMS Serif and loaded in their suspiciously large"}, {"start": "02:51:00", "end": "02:51:07", "text": "container, which was labeled optical instruments. In the early morning hours of April 30th, 1943, the submarine"}, {"start": "02:51:07", "end": "02:51:14", "text": "reached its destination. The officers aboard the HMS Serif performed a brief funeral service for Glender Michael,"}, {"start": "02:51:14", "end": "02:51:20", "text": "then placed his body with the briefcase attached into the water. Then the sub was positioned in a way that the"}, {"start": "02:51:20", "end": "02:51:27", "text": "propellers could be used to propel the body toward the shore. They gun the engine and the body was on its way."}, {"start": "02:51:27", "end": "02:51:33", "text": "Their final task was to sink the body's container. And this turned out to be one of the biggest hurdles Operation Minsme"}, {"start": "02:51:33", "end": "02:51:40", "text": "faced. Part of the special container's cooling system included air pockets. And so when placed in the water, it floated."}, {"start": "02:51:40", "end": "02:51:46", "text": "They tried shooting at it, but it still wouldn't sink. And if they couldn't sink it, this would be a big problem. Imagine"}, {"start": "02:51:46", "end": "02:51:52", "text": "a strange coffin riddled with bullet holes washing up on shore just after Major William Martin's body. The Spanish"}, {"start": "02:51:52", "end": "02:51:58", "text": "would know things were not as they seemed, so the Serif crew decided to blow it up. The explosion was loud, but"}, {"start": "02:51:58", "end": "02:52:05", "text": "the container did finally sink. And Major Martin, he ended up on the beach."}, {"start": "02:52:08", "end": "02:52:14", "text": "At around 9:30 on the morning of April 30th, 1943, the body of Royal Marine"}, {"start": "02:52:14", "end": "02:52:20", "text": "Acting Major William Martin was discovered by a fisherman in Welva, Spain. This was chosen as the dropoff"}, {"start": "02:52:20", "end": "02:52:25", "text": "site because of one specific Welva resident, Adolf Claus. That's the most German name I ever"}, {"start": "02:52:25", "end": "02:52:32", "text": "heard. Klouse was a notorious German spy who was the key to making sure the falsified documents were seen by the"}, {"start": "02:52:32", "end": "02:52:37", "text": "Germans. The fisherman who found the body notified the Spanish authorities who informed the British consulate in"}, {"start": "02:52:37", "end": "02:52:44", "text": "Spain and now began a delicate diplomatic dance. After enough time had passed for news of Major William"}, {"start": "02:52:44", "end": "02:52:49", "text": "Martin's death to travel through official British channels, the British needed to start requesting Martin's"}, {"start": "02:52:49", "end": "02:52:54", "text": "briefcase. And by pushing for the return of the briefcase, it would alert the Spanish and hopefully the Germans that"}, {"start": "02:52:54", "end": "02:53:00", "text": "there was something juicy inside. But they couldn't push too hard where the Spanish might return the briefcase"}, {"start": "02:53:00", "end": "02:53:05", "text": "before the Germans could get a peak. But they did eventually need to get the documents back if this thing was going"}, {"start": "02:53:05", "end": "02:53:11", "text": "to work. Cuz look, if the Germans believed that the British believed that their documents had been lost and the"}, {"start": "02:53:11", "end": "02:53:17", "text": "Germans had possibly gained possession of them, they would likely cancel the planned Greek attack. No reason to"}, {"start": "02:53:17", "end": "02:53:23", "text": "attack if the Germans know it's coming. And that couldn't be allowed to happen. The Germans had to read the letter and"}, {"start": "02:53:23", "end": "02:53:28", "text": "have it returned unopened. So, a delicate dance. Less delicate was the"}, {"start": "02:53:28", "end": "02:53:36", "text": "matter of the autopsy. Glender Michael had of course not died by drowning or blunt trauma or shock or exposure. He"}, {"start": "02:53:36", "end": "02:53:42", "text": "ate rat poison. A detailed autopsy would almost certainly have revealed that something was off. But by this time, the"}, {"start": "02:53:42", "end": "02:53:48", "text": "stench of the body was so foul that the British vice consul, who was aware of Operation Minsmeat, was able to cut the"}, {"start": "02:53:48", "end": "02:53:54", "text": "autopsy short. He told the staff in the coroner's office, \"It's hot. This place"}, {"start": "02:53:54", "end": "02:54:01", "text": "stinks. Let's go grab lunch instead. I'm buying.\" And that was the end of the autopsy. A few days later, a funeral was"}, {"start": "02:54:01", "end": "02:54:07", "text": "held for Major William Martin. He was buried in Spain with full military honors. Among the crowd of mourners was"}, {"start": "02:54:07", "end": "02:54:12", "text": "the German spy Adolf Klaus. Adolf knew about Major William Martin's arrival in"}, {"start": "02:54:12", "end": "02:54:18", "text": "Spain and was already working on obtaining a copy of the documents. Now, it took a week and a half, but the"}, {"start": "02:54:18", "end": "02:54:24", "text": "documents did make their way into the hands of the Germans before finally being returned. No eyelash."}, {"start": "02:54:24", "end": "02:54:31", "text": "No eyelash. To get the letter out of the envelope, the Germans inserted a thin wire and actually wound the letter into"}, {"start": "02:54:31", "end": "02:54:38", "text": "a tight scroll. The scroll was carefully pulled from a small fold in the envelope. It was dried, copied, twisted"}, {"start": "02:54:38", "end": "02:54:44", "text": "around the wire again, and put back in the envelope without breaking the wax seal. It was then soaked in seawater and"}, {"start": "02:54:44", "end": "02:54:51", "text": "returned. Even if the eyelash was there, the British would have known the letter was read because when they dried it out,"}, {"start": "02:54:51", "end": "02:54:59", "text": "it curled up like a potato chip. And then the information from the falsified documents made it all the way to Hitler."}, {"start": "02:55:01", "end": "02:55:07", "text": "On July 9th, 1943, the joint American and British invasion of Sicily, cenamed"}, {"start": "02:55:07", "end": "02:55:13", "text": "Operation Husky, began. The Allies were met with stormy weather, but little German resistance. The enemy was too"}, {"start": "02:55:13", "end": "02:55:19", "text": "busy planning for the invasion of Greece. Hitler had bought the operation mincemeat deception completely. The"}, {"start": "02:55:19", "end": "02:55:25", "text": "British had expected 10,000 killed or wounded in the first week of fighting, but only suffered 1,400 losses. The Navy"}, {"start": "02:55:25", "end": "02:55:33", "text": "expected 300 ships would be sunk in the action, but they lost only 12. The predicted 90-day campaign was over in 38"}, {"start": "02:55:33", "end": "02:55:39", "text": "days. Operation Mincemeat is now considered one of the greatest episodes of wartime deception in history, and"}, {"start": "02:55:39", "end": "02:55:45", "text": "it's broadly credited with one of the turning points of World War II. But this successful operation had a dark side"}, {"start": "02:55:45", "end": "02:55:52", "text": "effect. It ushered in a new era of espionage. It opened a Pandora's box of intelligence operations focused on"}, {"start": "02:55:52", "end": "02:55:59", "text": "deception. But the targets of the deception were no longer military. The targets were now civilians. In 1942, the"}, {"start": "02:55:59", "end": "02:56:06", "text": "United States military created the OSS, the Office of Strategic Services. This was an intelligence agency modeled after"}, {"start": "02:56:06", "end": "02:56:12", "text": "Britain's MI6. After the war, the OSS was dissolved, but in 1947, a new"}, {"start": "02:56:12", "end": "02:56:17", "text": "intelligence agency was created, the CIA."}, {"start": "02:56:19", "end": "02:56:25", "text": "Technically, the CIA is a civilian agency tasked with gathering, processing, and analyzing national"}, {"start": "02:56:25", "end": "02:56:31", "text": "security information from around the world. But CIA operations are much more creative and devious than simple"}, {"start": "02:56:31", "end": "02:56:36", "text": "intelligence gathering. In 1953, the CIA helped overthrow Iran's government via"}, {"start": "02:56:36", "end": "02:56:42", "text": "Operation Ajax. In 1954, Operation PB Success overthrew the president of"}, {"start": "02:56:42", "end": "02:56:51", "text": "Guatemala, a democratically elected president. Syria, Indonesia, Brazil, Nicaragua, Haiti, Uruguay, Panama. In"}, {"start": "02:56:51", "end": "02:56:56", "text": "these countries and many others, the CIA attempted coups, attempted to remove"}, {"start": "02:56:56", "end": "02:57:01", "text": "elected leaders, and in some cases assassinate those leaders. The 1962"}, {"start": "02:57:01", "end": "02:57:08", "text": "Cuban missile crisis is taught in every American school. It's a story about Soviet aggression and the bravery of"}, {"start": "02:57:08", "end": "02:57:15", "text": "President JFK. What's not taught is that in the years leading up to the crisis, the CIA established a base of operations"}, {"start": "02:57:15", "end": "02:57:21", "text": "in Miami. The only place that had more CIA officers in the world was headquarters in Langley."}, {"start": "02:57:21", "end": "02:57:27", "text": "These men belong to a terrorist organization responsible for a recent wave of bombings, kidnappings, and"}, {"start": "02:57:27", "end": "02:57:34", "text": "assassinations. They are Cuban exiles waging a terrorist war against Fidel Castro. And their base of operations is"}, {"start": "02:57:34", "end": "02:57:39", "text": "an American city. From the Miami base, Operation JM Wave was launched. Cuban"}, {"start": "02:57:39", "end": "02:57:44", "text": "exiles were recruited and trained by the CIA to operate as agents. Those agents"}, {"start": "02:57:44", "end": "02:57:52", "text": "then spent years engaging in an extensive campaign of terrorism on economic and civilian targets. A lot of"}, {"start": "02:57:52", "end": "02:57:58", "text": "civilians were killed and this was a major factor in the Soviet decision to place missiles on Cuba. These terrorist"}, {"start": "02:57:58", "end": "02:58:04", "text": "attacks continued for years. In 1976, Kubana flight 455 was destroyed by a"}, {"start": "02:58:04", "end": "02:58:10", "text": "bomb, killing all 73 people aboard. The CIA was immediately suspected, but"}, {"start": "02:58:10", "end": "02:58:15", "text": "naturally they denied it. But in 2007, independent research connected the"}, {"start": "02:58:15", "end": "02:58:20", "text": "bombing to a CIA asset. During the Vietnam War, the CIA spun up the Phoenix"}, {"start": "02:58:20", "end": "02:58:28", "text": "program. This program was designed to identify and destroy the Vietkong, the VC, via infiltration, assassination,"}, {"start": "02:58:28", "end": "02:58:35", "text": "terrorism, and torture. Phoenix was shut down after the abuse, torture, and murder were exposed. In the 1970s, back"}, {"start": "02:58:35", "end": "02:58:40", "text": "home, the CIA's Operation Chaos targeted anti-war protesters. I thought the CIA"}, {"start": "02:58:40", "end": "02:58:46", "text": "only operates overseas and doesn't spy on Americans. Yeah. Yeah. I realized how"}, {"start": "02:58:46", "end": "02:58:53", "text": "stupid I sounded when I said it. Hey, it's a good thing that the CIA, FBI, and other agencies aren't being weaponized"}, {"start": "02:58:53", "end": "02:58:59", "text": "and used against American citizens, huh? Sarasm."}, {"start": "02:59:02", "end": "02:59:09", "text": "Operation Condor ran for over 20 years and was a program of terrorism, assassination, and overthrow attempts of"}, {"start": "02:59:09", "end": "02:59:15", "text": "every socialist leader in South America. There's compelling evidence to show that for over 30 years, the CIA helped"}, {"start": "02:59:15", "end": "02:59:20", "text": "organize, train, and fund death squads in El Salvador. During the US inspired"}, {"start": "02:59:20", "end": "02:59:27", "text": "civil war, at least 75,000 civilians were killed. MK Ultra was an illegal"}, {"start": "02:59:27", "end": "02:59:33", "text": "human experimentation program. The CIA was testing drugs that could be used to force confessions through brainwashing"}, {"start": "02:59:33", "end": "02:59:38", "text": "and psychological torture. The program ran for 20 years before being exposed."}, {"start": "02:59:38", "end": "02:59:45", "text": "Through the 80s and 90s, the CIA was the biggest illegal drug trafficking and money laundering operation in the world,"}, {"start": "02:59:45", "end": "02:59:50", "text": "though this is only alleged. Operation Minsmeat is hailed as a great success, a"}, {"start": "02:59:50", "end": "02:59:57", "text": "major turning point in World War II that led to the Allied victory and probably saved millions of lives. And I believe"}, {"start": "02:59:57", "end": "03:00:06", "text": "that's true. But out of the ashes of the war and emboldened by the success of the OSS emerged the CIA."}, {"start": "03:00:07", "end": "03:00:14", "text": "Now the CIA and its defenders will say that yes, mistakes were made, but the ultimate goal of the agency is to"}, {"start": "03:00:14", "end": "03:00:20", "text": "protect American lives and America's interests overseas. And that's what we're taught here in the US and that's"}, {"start": "03:00:20", "end": "03:00:26", "text": "what we're shown in every movie about the CIA, which all have to be approved by the CIA. But there are people around"}, {"start": "03:00:26", "end": "03:00:31", "text": "the world and throughout history that view the CIA as an instrument of evil."}, {"start": "03:00:31", "end": "03:00:39", "text": "Thousands, perhaps millions of people would say the CIA is the most villainous organization ever conceived by man. And"}, {"start": "03:00:39", "end": "03:00:44", "text": "I'm not saying it is. I'm just saying every story has two sides. So, is the"}, {"start": "03:00:44", "end": "03:00:50", "text": "CIA a hero or a villain? Well, it all depends on which side of the table you're sitting, on which end of the gun"}, {"start": "03:00:50", "end": "03:00:56", "text": "you are, on which end of the needle, on whether you are the tortured or the torturer."}, {"start": "03:00:56", "end": "03:01:02", "text": "Now, given the nightmarish abuses and atrocities it's committed, and given the political weaponization of the agency"}, {"start": "03:01:02", "end": "03:01:08", "text": "that exists today, the CIA, at least the way it's currently structured, might be"}, {"start": "03:01:08", "end": "03:01:14", "text": "doing more harm than good. But if America is going to have a powerful intelligence agency like the CIA, and I"}, {"start": "03:01:14", "end": "03:01:19", "text": "think it should, that agency needs to do better. And we the people, we need to"}, {"start": "03:01:19", "end": "03:01:26", "text": "demand it. 3 + 1 5 plus 0."}, {"start": "03:01:26", "end": "03:01:32", "text": "The next one is a dark one. This was the first case that I could find where the"}, {"start": "03:01:32", "end": "03:01:37", "text": "US government actually publicly compensated someone who died in a"}, {"start": "03:01:37", "end": "03:01:43", "text": "strange way. Oh, look. He's got he had a heart attack. Whoops. He's He fell out of a hotel window. The Frank"}, {"start": "03:01:43", "end": "03:01:50", "text": "Olsson murder is is is taught by in Israeli intelligence is the perfect murder. Frank Olsson was part of MK"}, {"start": "03:01:50", "end": "03:01:57", "text": "Ultra and was starting to have second doubts about it. So, they sent him to a psychiatrist who he didn't know was"}, {"start": "03:01:57", "end": "03:02:02", "text": "actually worked for Sydney Gotley and was, you know, into programming and he"}, {"start": "03:02:02", "end": "03:02:09", "text": "was freaking out. and he's up in a hotel room with with someone else from MK and he falls out the window. But if you look"}, {"start": "03:02:09", "end": "03:02:14", "text": "at the window where he fell, it's like, you know, two feet by two feet. There's"}, {"start": "03:02:14", "end": "03:02:20", "text": "you can't just jump out the window. So, he was found on the sidewalk by the doorman. That's Frank Olsen. Worth"}, {"start": "03:02:20", "end": "03:02:29", "text": "looking up. This is an older episode. This goes back to number 76. It's about MK Ultra and"}, {"start": "03:02:29", "end": "03:02:32", "text": "the Frank Olsen murder."}, {"start": "03:02:34", "end": "03:02:41", "text": "November 28th, 1953, New York City. At 2:30 a.m., the body hit the sidewalk. A"}, {"start": "03:02:41", "end": "03:02:47", "text": "few seconds later, a shower of glass. The dorman of the Statatler Hotel yelled to the lobby that there was a jumper."}, {"start": "03:02:47", "end": "03:02:54", "text": "The night manager rushed out and saw him. A man about 40 years old lying on the pavement. He was on his back wearing"}, {"start": "03:02:54", "end": "03:03:00", "text": "only his underwear and blood started to pull around him. 13 stories up, a single"}, {"start": "03:03:00", "end": "03:03:06", "text": "window is open. its curtain flapping through broken glass. The night manager knelt beside the man whose eyes were"}, {"start": "03:03:06", "end": "03:03:13", "text": "open and was somehow still alive. He desperately tried to speak but was choking on blood and couldn't be"}, {"start": "03:03:13", "end": "03:03:20", "text": "understood. After a minute or two of trying to communicate, the man took a final deep breath and was gone. Nobody"}, {"start": "03:03:20", "end": "03:03:29", "text": "knows for sure what he was trying to say before he died, but one thing is for certain, it was something about the CIA."}, {"start": "03:03:33", "end": "03:03:38", "text": "Room 1018A was registered to Robert Lashbrook and Frank Olsen. The police"}, {"start": "03:03:38", "end": "03:03:43", "text": "burst in, guns raised, but it was empty. Cold November air was blowing through"}, {"start": "03:03:43", "end": "03:03:50", "text": "the broken window. In the bathroom was a man sitting on the toilet, resting his head in his hands. He told the police"}, {"start": "03:03:50", "end": "03:03:56", "text": "he'd been sleeping, heard a noise, and woke up. One officer asked the name of the man who went out the window. The man"}, {"start": "03:03:56", "end": "03:04:03", "text": "in the bathroom said, \"Lolsen, rank Olsen.\" The responding officers figured this was an openand-shut case. A"}, {"start": "03:04:03", "end": "03:04:10", "text": "middle-aged man is depressed or distraught and ends it all by jumping. Just another night in the big city. But"}, {"start": "03:04:10", "end": "03:04:15", "text": "the night manager, Armen Pastori, wasn't convinced. He said it didn't make sense that someone would get up in the middle"}, {"start": "03:04:15", "end": "03:04:21", "text": "of the night, run across a dark room in his underwear, avoid two beds, and dive"}, {"start": "03:04:21", "end": "03:04:26", "text": "through a closed window that had the shade and curtains closed. Pastori checked with the hotel operator to see"}, {"start": "03:04:26", "end": "03:04:33", "text": "if any calls were made from the room. The operator said yes, a call was just made a few minutes ago and because it"}, {"start": "03:04:33", "end": "03:04:39", "text": "ran through a switchboard, she heard the whole thing. The caller, Robert Lashbrook, who was the man in the"}, {"start": "03:04:39", "end": "03:04:44", "text": "bathroom, called a number on Long Island which belonged to a Dr. Harold Abramson."}, {"start": "03:04:44", "end": "03:04:50", "text": "The call lasted only a few seconds. \"Well, he's gone,\" Lashbrook said."}, {"start": "03:04:50", "end": "03:04:55", "text": "\"Well, that's too bad,\" was Abramson's reply. A few hours later, Frank Olsen's"}, {"start": "03:04:55", "end": "03:05:01", "text": "family was notified. They were told there was an accident. Frank had either fallen or jumped from his 10th floor"}, {"start": "03:05:01", "end": "03:05:08", "text": "room. Frank's body was so badly damaged that the funeral was held with a closed casket. And the Olsen family tried to"}, {"start": "03:05:08", "end": "03:05:15", "text": "move on. Having trouble coping with losing his father, Eric Olsen would ask his mother about Frank from time to"}, {"start": "03:05:15", "end": "03:05:21", "text": "time, and she would always say the same thing. You're never going to know what happened in the room that night. But 20"}, {"start": "03:05:21", "end": "03:05:25", "text": "years later, that would change."}, {"start": "03:05:26", "end": "03:05:31", "text": "In 1975, the Rockefeller Commission released information to the public about"}, {"start": "03:05:31", "end": "03:05:38", "text": "its investigation into CIA activities. The report mentioned a civilian scientist working for the Department of"}, {"start": "03:05:38", "end": "03:05:43", "text": "the Navy. He was given LSD without his knowledge as part of a CIA experiment."}, {"start": "03:05:43", "end": "03:05:50", "text": "That scientist experienced side effects and was sent to New York for a psychiatric care. A few days later, he"}, {"start": "03:05:50", "end": "03:05:56", "text": "jumped from a 10th floor window of his hotel and died. This report was in the New York Times and Washington Post and"}, {"start": "03:05:56", "end": "03:06:03", "text": "made its way to the Olsen family. The government confirmed the scientist was Frank Olsen. And just 10 days later, the"}, {"start": "03:06:03", "end": "03:06:10", "text": "family was invited to the White House and President Ford gave them a formal apology. The director of the CIA also"}, {"start": "03:06:10", "end": "03:06:18", "text": "apologized. The United States government agreed this was a wrongful death and offered the family a $750,000"}, {"start": "03:06:18", "end": "03:06:25", "text": "settlement if they agreed not to sue. The Olsen family agreed to the terms. Alice Olsen never wanted to talk about"}, {"start": "03:06:25", "end": "03:06:31", "text": "Frank's death or his job. Frank's children, now in their 20s and 30s, always knew their father was a"}, {"start": "03:06:31", "end": "03:06:38", "text": "scientist. But what scientist family gets a personal invitation to the Oval Office? Alice Olsen only knew a few"}, {"start": "03:06:38", "end": "03:06:44", "text": "things about her husband's job. She knew he was a scientist doing important work for the US government. She knew he"}, {"start": "03:06:44", "end": "03:06:50", "text": "traveled for work all the time. And she knew he was unhappy. One of the last things Frank said to his wife was that"}, {"start": "03:06:50", "end": "03:06:57", "text": "he had made a terrible mistake. But for Frank's children, this information was entirely new. And because of the"}, {"start": "03:06:57", "end": "03:07:04", "text": "investigations and media coverage, they now learned for the first time what their father actually did for a living."}, {"start": "03:07:04", "end": "03:07:11", "text": "He was no ordinary scientist. During World War II, Frank Olsen was one"}, {"start": "03:07:11", "end": "03:07:16", "text": "of the first Army scientists assigned to the top secret biological warfare lab at"}, {"start": "03:07:16", "end": "03:07:24", "text": "Fort Dietrich, Maryland. Frank's specialty was aerosolizing living biological agents and munitions. In"}, {"start": "03:07:24", "end": "03:07:30", "text": "other words, he created biological weapons of mass destruction. Now, this time in history, the CIA was part of the"}, {"start": "03:07:30", "end": "03:07:37", "text": "army. And after becoming a civilian, Frank continued his research in bioweapons. He was lead scientist for"}, {"start": "03:07:37", "end": "03:07:44", "text": "operation harness where animals in the Caribbean were exposed to anthrax to luremia and brucillaa. He was part of"}, {"start": "03:07:44", "end": "03:07:50", "text": "operation sea spray where different strains of bacteria were sprayed over the San Francisco Bay area to test the"}, {"start": "03:07:50", "end": "03:07:58", "text": "city's vulnerability to a boweapon attack. And as Frank moved up the ranks of the CIA, he spent a lot of time at"}, {"start": "03:07:58", "end": "03:08:04", "text": "Fort Terry, which was a secret installation on Plum Island in the Long Island Sound. Plum Island is only"}, {"start": "03:08:04", "end": "03:08:11", "text": "reachable by boat or by air. The toxins tested there are considered too dangerous to be on the mainland. Olsen"}, {"start": "03:08:11", "end": "03:08:17", "text": "developed delivery devices for these bioweapons. Canisters disguised as shaving cream cans that could disperse"}, {"start": "03:08:17", "end": "03:08:24", "text": "anthrax in a concentrated area. A cigarette lighter that emitted a deadly gas. Lipstick that killed instantly."}, {"start": "03:08:24", "end": "03:08:30", "text": "Hey, when did they make biological weapons a war crime? The Geneva Conventions in 1925. So all"}, {"start": "03:08:30", "end": "03:08:35", "text": "this research was illegal, right? In early 1953, the same year he died,"}, {"start": "03:08:35", "end": "03:08:42", "text": "Frank Olsen stepped down as chief of the special operations division. He said the job was too stressful and was causing"}, {"start": "03:08:42", "end": "03:08:49", "text": "his ulcers to flare up. You think suck? Try anthrax. Oh, no sympathy for CIA scientists, huh?"}, {"start": "03:08:49", "end": "03:08:54", "text": "Not even a little bit. So Frank stepped down, but he stayed with the CIA. And that's when he met"}, {"start": "03:08:54", "end": "03:09:01", "text": "Sydney Gotautle and Robert Lashbrook. Gotautle. Gotautle. Where do I know that name from?"}, {"start": "03:09:01", "end": "03:09:07", "text": "Well, Sydney Gotautle ran the CIA's Project Bluebird, which became Project Artichoke, which became"}, {"start": "03:09:07", "end": "03:09:14", "text": "NK Ultra. Bingo. During the Cold War, the CIA,"}, {"start": "03:09:14", "end": "03:09:20", "text": "specifically Sydney Gotautle, was obsessed with mind control and brainwashing. There was a fear that the"}, {"start": "03:09:20", "end": "03:09:26", "text": "Soviet Union was also working on this capability, and the United States was determined to get there first. Project"}, {"start": "03:09:26", "end": "03:09:32", "text": "MK Ultra was the program intended to accomplish this. MK Ultra was brutal and"}, {"start": "03:09:32", "end": "03:09:38", "text": "illegal. Over time, the experiments Frank Olsen conducted and witnessed started to weigh on him. During one"}, {"start": "03:09:38", "end": "03:09:45", "text": "study, Frank Olsen observed interrogations at CIA black sites in Germany. Detainees were called"}, {"start": "03:09:45", "end": "03:09:52", "text": "Expendables. I'm assuming these Expendables were not aging action stars. They were not. They were mostly"}, {"start": "03:09:52", "end": "03:09:58", "text": "suspected spies and security leaks. Suspected. So, uh, not proven. Nope, just suspected."}, {"start": "03:09:58", "end": "03:10:04", "text": "Freaking spooks. The Expendables were subject to drug experiments, hypnosis, electric shocks,"}, {"start": "03:10:04", "end": "03:10:11", "text": "isolation, sexual abuse, and all kinds of torture. This was an effort to study not just the effects of extreme torture,"}, {"start": "03:10:11", "end": "03:10:18", "text": "but also brainwashing techniques and memory deletion. Many of these people were interrogated to death. In other"}, {"start": "03:10:18", "end": "03:10:25", "text": "instances, Frank Olsen saw the results of his own weapons that were used on expendables. Some of those people died"}, {"start": "03:10:25", "end": "03:10:31", "text": "slowly and in agony. And even though Frank's wife didn't know any of the specifics, it was clear that Frank's"}, {"start": "03:10:31", "end": "03:10:37", "text": "work was becoming too much for him to bear. In November 1953, Frank Olsen received an invitation for a"}, {"start": "03:10:37", "end": "03:10:44", "text": "pre-Thanksgiving retreat at a cabin on Deep Creek Lake. Gotautle ran these retreats for scientists and staff pretty"}, {"start": "03:10:44", "end": "03:10:50", "text": "often. Deep Creek was a convenient place for God. This was one of the locations where Americans were subjected to MK"}, {"start": "03:10:50", "end": "03:10:56", "text": "Ultra techniques against their will for decades. Frank Olsen was there with 10"}, {"start": "03:10:56", "end": "03:11:02", "text": "other scientists. The first day of the gathering was fine. Nothing out of the ordinary. On the second day, after"}, {"start": "03:11:02", "end": "03:11:08", "text": "dinner, the men kicked back for a postmeal drink. Lashbrook got Leap's second in command, pulled a bunch of"}, {"start": "03:11:08", "end": "03:11:14", "text": "glasses, and poured everyone a generous portion of Quantro, which is an excellent orange triple secloola from"}, {"start": "03:11:14", "end": "03:11:19", "text": "France. Right. 20 minutes later, God asked if anyone was feeling odd. A few"}, {"start": "03:11:19", "end": "03:11:25", "text": "of the men said they were. Got then told him that their drinks were spiked with a heavy dose of LSD."}, {"start": "03:11:25", "end": "03:11:31", "text": "Son of a Frank Olsen was aware that the CIA had"}, {"start": "03:11:31", "end": "03:11:37", "text": "dosed entire villages in Europe to observe the results. Many innocent people died from these experiments, but"}, {"start": "03:11:37", "end": "03:11:44", "text": "he was surprised that he would be the unwitting subject of an experiment. And Frank didn't react well. A few days"}, {"start": "03:11:44", "end": "03:11:50", "text": "later, he submitted his resignation, but he was talked into staying. It was suggested that he see a psychiatrist to"}, {"start": "03:11:50", "end": "03:11:56", "text": "help him cope with the effects of the experiment and the stress of his work. Frank agreed. Lashbrook drove Frank"}, {"start": "03:11:56", "end": "03:12:02", "text": "Olsen to New York to meet with Dr. Harold Abramson. Yeah. Yeah. This is the guy he called after the jump, right?"}, {"start": "03:12:02", "end": "03:12:08", "text": "Yep. Dr. Abramson was actually an allergist that worked for the CIA. He"}, {"start": "03:12:08", "end": "03:12:14", "text": "pretended to be a psychiatrist, but Frank didn't know this. After a couple of sessions, Dr. Abramson convinced"}, {"start": "03:12:14", "end": "03:12:20", "text": "Frank to check himself into a hospital so he could recover from stress and exhaustion. Frank was actually fine with"}, {"start": "03:12:20", "end": "03:12:26", "text": "this. He was looking forward to the time off and was already picking out what books to bring with him. And that night,"}, {"start": "03:12:26", "end": "03:12:31", "text": "he and Lashbrook signed into the Statatler Hotel, room 1018A. Frank had a"}, {"start": "03:12:31", "end": "03:12:36", "text": "nice conversation with his wife. She remembered him sounding more peaceful than he'd been in a long time. He"}, {"start": "03:12:36", "end": "03:12:43", "text": "watched a little TV and went to bed. At 2:30 a.m., he was dead on the street below the window. Over the next 12"}, {"start": "03:12:43", "end": "03:12:48", "text": "hours, a cleanup and a cover up by the CIA ensued. The police investigation was"}, {"start": "03:12:48", "end": "03:12:55", "text": "quickly closed. Frank Olsen's family was told he died from jumping or falling out a window. About 20 years later, more"}, {"start": "03:12:55", "end": "03:13:02", "text": "details about MK Ultra emerged and the Olsen family received a settlement. And almost 20 years after that, the case"}, {"start": "03:13:02", "end": "03:13:08", "text": "would take another turn. Frank Olsen's wife, Alice, passed away"}, {"start": "03:13:08", "end": "03:13:14", "text": "in 1993. Their children decided to have Frank's body exumed and reburied next to"}, {"start": "03:13:14", "end": "03:13:19", "text": "his wife. But Frank's children had an additional plan. They had James Star, a"}, {"start": "03:13:19", "end": "03:13:26", "text": "medical examiner professor, conduct a second autopsy. Star said there were no cuts on Frank's body and no shards of"}, {"start": "03:13:26", "end": "03:13:32", "text": "glass, which would have been expected by jumping through a window. And even though Frank landed on his back, his"}, {"start": "03:13:32", "end": "03:13:39", "text": "skull above his left eye had a blunt force trauma injury. He had another serious wound on his chest. Star said of"}, {"start": "03:13:39", "end": "03:13:45", "text": "his findings, \"I think Frank Olsen was intentionally, deliberately with malice of forethought"}, {"start": "03:13:45", "end": "03:13:51", "text": "thrown out of the window.\" Frank's son sued the CIA again, but because of the agreement they signed in"}, {"start": "03:13:51", "end": "03:13:57", "text": "1975, the judge had to dismiss the case. But the judge did say even though the"}, {"start": "03:13:57", "end": "03:14:04", "text": "case couldn't proceed as a matter of law, the allegations made by the family against the CIA, though they sounded"}, {"start": "03:14:04", "end": "03:14:10", "text": "far-fetched, appeared to be the truth. Since the lawsuit couldn't proceed, Frank Olsen's sons went to the press."}, {"start": "03:14:10", "end": "03:14:18", "text": "They flat out said the CIA murdered their father and covered it up. They also produced interesting documents. In"}, {"start": "03:14:18", "end": "03:14:24", "text": "1954, just a few months after Frank Olsen's death, the CIA executed a"}, {"start": "03:14:24", "end": "03:14:29", "text": "document with the Department of Justice that gave the CIA authority to grant CIA"}, {"start": "03:14:29", "end": "03:14:34", "text": "employees immunity from any crime, including murder. A license to kill."}, {"start": "03:14:34", "end": "03:14:40", "text": "Exactly. And there's a handbook released in 1953, the year of Frank's death,"}, {"start": "03:14:40", "end": "03:14:46", "text": "called the CIA Study of Assassination. It's fascinating, and I'll link it below. It describes that the best way to"}, {"start": "03:14:46", "end": "03:14:52", "text": "assassinate a target is to drop them from at least 75 ft onto a hard surface."}, {"start": "03:14:52", "end": "03:14:59", "text": "The manual says when successfully executed, it causes little excitement and is only casually investigated. In"}, {"start": "03:14:59", "end": "03:15:06", "text": "fact, the MSAD, the Israeli intelligence organization, used Frank Olsen's death as an example of a perfect murder due to"}, {"start": "03:15:06", "end": "03:15:12", "text": "the skill with which it was executed. Now, while there is still no official admission of guilt from the CIA, I think"}, {"start": "03:15:12", "end": "03:15:19", "text": "it's pretty obvious what happened. Frank Olsen was one of only a few scientists who could confirm that the United States"}, {"start": "03:15:19", "end": "03:15:25", "text": "used chemical weapons in the Korean War. This is something that's still only alleged, but there's a lot of evidence"}, {"start": "03:15:25", "end": "03:15:32", "text": "it happened. Korean and Chinese soldiers were suddenly coming down with cases of chalera, menitis, and even plague. It's"}, {"start": "03:15:32", "end": "03:15:39", "text": "possible Frank Olsen was directly involved in deploying these illegal weapons. Frank Olsen was one of only a"}, {"start": "03:15:39", "end": "03:15:44", "text": "dozen or so people on Earth who knew the extent of MK Ultra and other secret and"}, {"start": "03:15:44", "end": "03:15:50", "text": "illegal CIA operations. Frank Olsen was a man who committed or at least was part"}, {"start": "03:15:50", "end": "03:15:56", "text": "of projects that committed atrocities around the world. And he was dealing with a moral crisis and started voicing"}, {"start": "03:15:56", "end": "03:16:04", "text": "his concerns. He even quit, but the CIA wouldn't allow it. When he was dosed with LSD that night in November, it was"}, {"start": "03:16:04", "end": "03:16:11", "text": "a loyalty test to see what scientists would say if they were exposed to the drug. Frank Olsen failed that test and"}, {"start": "03:16:11", "end": "03:16:18", "text": "paid the ultimate price. But because of his death and the diligence of his family, many illegal CIA activities were"}, {"start": "03:16:18", "end": "03:16:24", "text": "exposed and MK Ultra was almost destroyed. Almost. It continued for"}, {"start": "03:16:24", "end": "03:16:30", "text": "another 20 years before finally shutting down in 1973. At least as far as we"}, {"start": "03:16:30", "end": "03:16:36", "text": "know, all the records were illegally destroyed. And not Sydney Gotautle, Robert Lashbrook, or any of the senior"}, {"start": "03:16:36", "end": "03:16:43", "text": "scientists from MK Ultra were ever brought to justice. In fact, they all lived out their lives on fat pensions"}, {"start": "03:16:43", "end": "03:16:48", "text": "paid for by you and me. But the CIA promises that MK Ultra was the last time"}, {"start": "03:16:48", "end": "03:16:54", "text": "drug experiments were done on people against their will. And such atrocities absolutely could not and would not"}, {"start": "03:16:54", "end": "03:16:59", "text": "happen today. Why would they lie?"}, {"start": "03:16:59", "end": "03:17:06", "text": "3 + 1 5 plus 0 0. So everybody knows that after World War II, the United States imported about"}, {"start": "03:17:06", "end": "03:17:11", "text": "1,200 Nazi war criminals. I mean scientists under Operation Paperclip. And the scientists who get the most"}, {"start": "03:17:11", "end": "03:17:18", "text": "attention are Veron Brown and his team of rocket engineers/war criminals. But one scientist who doesn't"}, {"start": "03:17:18", "end": "03:17:23", "text": "get a lot of attention, and you're going to find out why, is Dr. Eric Trout. He"}, {"start": "03:17:23", "end": "03:17:30", "text": "was the top bioweapon scientist for the Nazis. And after the war, US Army brought him over to set up or improve"}, {"start": "03:17:30", "end": "03:17:37", "text": "the bioweapons program for the US. But whenever I get into Operation Paperclip, I always hammer home, these"}, {"start": "03:17:37", "end": "03:17:43", "text": "are Nazis. We, you know, Verer von Brown is not a hero. He's a hero, but he's not"}, {"start": "03:17:43", "end": "03:17:48", "text": "a hero. You know, a lot of these guy, these is all evil dudes. And most of the Operation Paperclip was just bringing"}, {"start": "03:17:48", "end": "03:17:54", "text": "over intelligence assets. They don't like talking about that. It's the,200 scientists that we learn about. It's not"}, {"start": "03:17:54", "end": "03:18:00", "text": "the 6,000 intelligence agents that just lived here until the 70s and 80s."}, {"start": "03:18:00", "end": "03:18:05", "text": "Now, keep in mind that bioweapons were made illegal under the 1925 Geneva"}, {"start": "03:18:05", "end": "03:18:11", "text": "protocol. So, the US is bringing over a war criminal to help with a program that"}, {"start": "03:18:11", "end": "03:18:16", "text": "is by definition a war crime. Anyway, Dr. Trab helped set up the infamous Plum"}, {"start": "03:18:16", "end": "03:18:23", "text": "Island facility in New York near where I grew up. I saw this thing all the time. Now, the goal there was to weaponize"}, {"start": "03:18:23", "end": "03:18:28", "text": "biting insects like ticks. And if we learned anything from Jurassic Park,"}, {"start": "03:18:28", "end": "03:18:33", "text": "when you mess with nature, nature fights back."}, {"start": "03:18:34", "end": "03:18:41", "text": "In July 2008, the carcass of an animal washed up on the beach at Montalk Point, Long Island. Local beach comrs are used"}, {"start": "03:18:41", "end": "03:18:49", "text": "to seeing dead animals, seagulls, fish, crabs, even the occasional whale. But they had never seen anything like this."}, {"start": "03:18:49", "end": "03:18:55", "text": "Animal experts were brought in to identify it. They were stumped. It looked like part dog, part reptile, and"}, {"start": "03:18:55", "end": "03:19:02", "text": "part rodent with the beak of a bird. This animal, whatever it was, became known as the Montalk monster. But where"}, {"start": "03:19:02", "end": "03:19:07", "text": "did the monster come from? There could be only one answer: Plum Island. Plum"}, {"start": "03:19:07", "end": "03:19:12", "text": "Island is just a few miles from where the monster was found. Locals heard rumors that this was a top secret"}, {"start": "03:19:12", "end": "03:19:19", "text": "government facility that created boweapons, engineered animal hybrids, and maybe even experimented on people."}, {"start": "03:19:19", "end": "03:19:25", "text": "Sounds like a wild theory. But then another animal washed up on the beach. Again, it couldn't be identified. And"}, {"start": "03:19:25", "end": "03:19:32", "text": "then another animal, and then two more. In 2010, the rumors about Plum Island seemed to be true when something else"}, {"start": "03:19:32", "end": "03:19:43", "text": "was found on the beach. This time, it wasn't a strange animal. It was a body. A human body. Well, almost human."}, {"start": "03:19:49", "end": "03:19:55", "text": "Less than 2 mi off the coast of Long Island and about 85 mi from New York City is a small island owned by the US"}, {"start": "03:19:55", "end": "03:20:02", "text": "government and unidentified on most maps. It's only accessible by ferry or by helicopter. But don't try visiting."}, {"start": "03:20:02", "end": "03:20:09", "text": "Even if you have top secret clearance, access to Plum Island is invitation only. Boats that wander too close are"}, {"start": "03:20:09", "end": "03:20:16", "text": "quickly chased away by armed military personnel. Officially, the island is home to the Plum Island Animal Disease"}, {"start": "03:20:16", "end": "03:20:22", "text": "Center, a federal research facility that studies livestock related diseases, specifically foot and mouth disease and"}, {"start": "03:20:22", "end": "03:20:30", "text": "African swine fever. These are highly contagious diseases that affect cows, pigs, sheep, and goats. The Plum Island"}, {"start": "03:20:30", "end": "03:20:35", "text": "Animal Disease Center is the only lab in the US authorized to work with live FMD"}, {"start": "03:20:35", "end": "03:20:41", "text": "samples. If these samples escape the island, it could devastate the country's food supply in a matter of weeks. Foot"}, {"start": "03:20:41", "end": "03:20:48", "text": "and mouth is so contagious that if a single case is found in imported meat, all meat imports from that country are"}, {"start": "03:20:48", "end": "03:20:53", "text": "instantly banned. In 2001, the UK had an outbreak of foot and mouth disease that"}, {"start": "03:20:53", "end": "03:20:59", "text": "resulted in a loss of almost $10 billion and the slaughter of more than 6 million"}, {"start": "03:20:59", "end": "03:21:06", "text": "animals, whether they were infected or not. The center also studies African and classical swine fevers as well as aven"}, {"start": "03:21:06", "end": "03:21:13", "text": "flu. Now, there's no question that since the 1950s, Plum Island has studied diseases that affect livestock. But Plum"}, {"start": "03:21:13", "end": "03:21:19", "text": "Island's true history is much darker. For years, stories circulated that Plum"}, {"start": "03:21:19", "end": "03:21:25", "text": "Island was conducting genetic experiments on animals and possibly on people. So, when the bodies of strange"}, {"start": "03:21:25", "end": "03:21:31", "text": "animals began washing up on beaches around the Long Island Sound, it could mean only one thing. The rumors about"}, {"start": "03:21:31", "end": "03:21:38", "text": "Plum Island were true. The Manhattan monster was found along the East River. Then another creature washed up, and"}, {"start": "03:21:38", "end": "03:21:43", "text": "this one kind of looked like a pig, but you don't see a lot of those running around New York City. Besides, pigs have"}, {"start": "03:21:43", "end": "03:21:51", "text": "four toes on each foot that ends in a hoof. The Manhattan monster's feet had five toes that ended in what look like"}, {"start": "03:21:51", "end": "03:21:56", "text": "claws. Oh, did it have the body of a crab and the head of a cat? No, it had It would be a crab cat."}, {"start": "03:21:56", "end": "03:22:04", "text": "I know, but a crab cat. Some thought it could be a huge rat. Now, I'm from New York and I've seen some huge rats."}, {"start": "03:22:04", "end": "03:22:09", "text": "Especially under the F train at West Fourth Street, huh?"}, {"start": "03:22:15", "end": "03:22:20", "text": "They get big down there, but not this big. Plus, rats have four toes on their"}, {"start": "03:22:20", "end": "03:22:28", "text": "back feet. Again, this thing had five. Then, another unrecognizable animal appeared. Then, another. And another"}, {"start": "03:22:28", "end": "03:22:34", "text": "Plum Island is supposed to be a medical research facility originally under the purview of the Department of"}, {"start": "03:22:34", "end": "03:22:40", "text": "Agriculture, but Plum Island is actually part of Homeland Security. Why? In 2008,"}, {"start": "03:22:40", "end": "03:22:48", "text": "an al-Qaeda operative named Aifa Sadiki was captured. She was in possession of handwritten notes with possible sites"}, {"start": "03:22:48", "end": "03:22:56", "text": "for a mass casualty attack in the United States. One of the sites listed was Plum Island. Again, why? Well, Plum Island"}, {"start": "03:22:56", "end": "03:23:03", "text": "research wasn't always about curing diseases. When it opened, Plum Island was about creating them. In 1952, Plum"}, {"start": "03:23:03", "end": "03:23:09", "text": "Island was used to research anti-animal biological warfare. Specifically, it focused on weaponizing foot and mouth"}, {"start": "03:23:09", "end": "03:23:15", "text": "disease against enemy livestock to disrupt their food supply. But there's evidence that the bioweapons developed"}, {"start": "03:23:15", "end": "03:23:20", "text": "on Plum Island weren't only targeting animals, but targeting humans."}, {"start": "03:23:20", "end": "03:23:28", "text": "In January 2010, a human body was found on Plum Island by a local security guard. It was described as a 6-ft tall"}, {"start": "03:23:28", "end": "03:23:35", "text": "black male with no obvious signs of trauma. But there were a few strange details about this man. One is that his"}, {"start": "03:23:35", "end": "03:23:42", "text": "fingers were described as abnormally large. Some news agencies reported that his hands seemed mutated. But the"}, {"start": "03:23:42", "end": "03:23:47", "text": "scariest detail of all, his skull had five holes drilled into it, indicating"}, {"start": "03:23:47", "end": "03:23:54", "text": "invasive brain surgery or experimentation. And that's where Plum Island's dark history becomes even"}, {"start": "03:23:54", "end": "03:23:59", "text": "darker. Because when the United States wanted to create one of the deadliest germ labs on"}, {"start": "03:23:59", "end": "03:24:06", "text": "Earth, it brought in elite personnel to build it. To build Plum Island, the US brought in bioweapon scientists with"}, {"start": "03:24:06", "end": "03:24:11", "text": "experience in human experimentation. to build Plum Island. The US brought in the"}, {"start": "03:24:11", "end": "03:24:18", "text": "Nazis. Why couldn't the MOK monster be some"}, {"start": "03:24:18", "end": "03:24:24", "text": "some critter that they were tinkering with that somehow uh went into the water and got swept by that outgoing tide?"}, {"start": "03:24:24", "end": "03:24:31", "text": "Mtok is uh is south and east of Plum Island. Not that far, maybe 10 miles uh"}, {"start": "03:24:31", "end": "03:24:37", "text": "as the crow flies, maybe less even. Uh, why couldn't it be that?"}, {"start": "03:24:37", "end": "03:24:45", "text": "Resams Island, Germany is home to the oldest bureological institution in the world. REMS was founded in 1910 to"}, {"start": "03:24:45", "end": "03:24:52", "text": "research foot and mouth disease. But during World War II, it became ground zero for Hitler's bowarfare program. RES"}, {"start": "03:24:52", "end": "03:24:59", "text": "was run by scientist Eric Trout, who reported directly to Hinrich Himmler, who reported directly to Hitler. Trout"}, {"start": "03:24:59", "end": "03:25:05", "text": "experimented with unique forms of biological warfare. He specialized in biting and stinging insects. He"}, {"start": "03:25:05", "end": "03:25:12", "text": "discovered that if you infect beetles and ticks with a deadly disease, you can drop them on enemy troops and their food"}, {"start": "03:25:12", "end": "03:25:17", "text": "supplies. You can devastate an entire army without firing a single shot. Ticks"}, {"start": "03:25:17", "end": "03:25:22", "text": "were considered an ideal weapon for biological warfare. They're small, making them hard to detect. They're"}, {"start": "03:25:22", "end": "03:25:29", "text": "resilient, making them hard to kill. And they feed on human blood, making them motivated to spread disease."}, {"start": "03:25:29", "end": "03:25:35", "text": "The tick is the perfect germ vector, which is why it has long been fancied as a germ weapon by early bowarriors from"}, {"start": "03:25:35", "end": "03:25:41", "text": "Nazi Germany and the Empire of Japan to the Soviet Union and the United States."}, {"start": "03:25:41", "end": "03:25:47", "text": "After the war, there was no Nazi Germany. There was no Empire of Japan. But the Soviet Union and the United"}, {"start": "03:25:47", "end": "03:25:54", "text": "States were still very interested in using poison ticks in warfare. Except now they would be used on each other. So"}, {"start": "03:25:54", "end": "03:26:01", "text": "now the two allies became enemies and competition for German technology was fierce. The United States launched"}, {"start": "03:26:01", "end": "03:26:08", "text": "Operation Paperclip, a secret program that recruited German scientists, engineers, and technicians. The US gave"}, {"start": "03:26:08", "end": "03:26:15", "text": "German scientists a choice. Work for us and your war crimes are forgiven. Not a difficult decision for most. Even if"}, {"start": "03:26:15", "end": "03:26:23", "text": "German scientists refused to work for the US, they could still find themselves swept up in operation osuyakim. This was"}, {"start": "03:26:23", "end": "03:26:28", "text": "the Soviet counterpart to Operation Paperclip. But where the US gave scientists a choice, the Soviets took"}, {"start": "03:26:28", "end": "03:26:36", "text": "them by force. Eric Trout was one of the scientists forced to work for the Soviets from his lab on Ree Island. But"}, {"start": "03:26:36", "end": "03:26:42", "text": "in 1948, British intelligence got him out and brought him to the States. Soon he was working at Fort Dietrich, the"}, {"start": "03:26:42", "end": "03:26:49", "text": "Army's biological warfare headquarters. And based on the design of Trrow Island in Germany, the United States built"}, {"start": "03:26:49", "end": "03:26:57", "text": "their own lab off the coast of New York. So, the Plum Island Animal Disease Laboratory opened its doors in 1954."}, {"start": "03:26:57", "end": "03:27:04", "text": "A source who worked on Plum Island in the 1950s recalls that animal handlers and a scientist released ticks outdoors"}, {"start": "03:27:04", "end": "03:27:10", "text": "on the island. They called him the Nazi scientist. In 1951, they were inoculating these ticks."}, {"start": "03:27:10", "end": "03:27:16", "text": "It would take years before residents in the area would learn what was happening on Plum Island. And when locals found"}, {"start": "03:27:16", "end": "03:27:21", "text": "out, tensions were high. Nobody wanted a bioweapons lab in their backyard. Moral"}, {"start": "03:27:21", "end": "03:27:28", "text": "issues aside, what if some disease made it to the mainland? After all, about 10 million people live within 100 miles of"}, {"start": "03:27:28", "end": "03:27:33", "text": "the island. A lab leak would be catastrophic. But even when the government finally acknowledged the"}, {"start": "03:27:33", "end": "03:27:40", "text": "facility, they said that one, it wasn't researching bioweapons, and two, there's no way anything could escape the island."}, {"start": "03:27:40", "end": "03:27:45", "text": "But here's the thing, those were both lies."}, {"start": "03:27:48", "end": "03:27:55", "text": "this this animal facility since 1954 when it was actually inaugurated as a biological warfare facility uh by Nazi"}, {"start": "03:27:55", "end": "03:28:01", "text": "Germany's top germware officer uh warfare officer that we secretly imported to the United States. The goal"}, {"start": "03:28:01", "end": "03:28:07", "text": "was germ warfare. Is that true? It really was a a Nazi a Nazi ran the place an ex-Nazi."}, {"start": "03:28:07", "end": "03:28:16", "text": "Yeah. His name his name was Eric Trout. We can find him in the depths of the National Archives and Record Administration where I found him."}, {"start": "03:28:17", "end": "03:28:22", "text": "In 1971, a mysterious virus began decimating Cuba's pig population,"}, {"start": "03:28:22", "end": "03:28:28", "text": "threatening a major food source. Within 2 years, over 500,000 pigs had died or"}, {"start": "03:28:28", "end": "03:28:35", "text": "been slaughtered. The cause was African swine fever, a highly contagious and usually fatal virus. This was the first"}, {"start": "03:28:35", "end": "03:28:42", "text": "and only outbreak of swine fever in the Western Hemisphere. As a result of the epidemic, Cuba was forced to slaughter"}, {"start": "03:28:42", "end": "03:28:49", "text": "every pig on the island. How African swine flu got onto the island was a mystery. Well, a mystery to everyone"}, {"start": "03:28:49", "end": "03:28:56", "text": "except the Cubans. The Cuban government blamed the United States, specifically the CIA. After all,"}, {"start": "03:28:56", "end": "03:29:04", "text": "Operation Mongoose was well known to the Cubans. This was a covert operation initiated by the CIA in the early 1960s."}, {"start": "03:29:04", "end": "03:29:10", "text": "Its primary objective was to remove Fidel Castro from power. And although they were never implemented, biological"}, {"start": "03:29:10", "end": "03:29:17", "text": "weapons were a part of this plan. The CIA had planned to spray bachulinum toxin on the island. The justification"}, {"start": "03:29:17", "end": "03:29:23", "text": "for this is that it would save the lives of thousands of American soldiers. Cuban civilians wouldn't be so lucky."}, {"start": "03:29:23", "end": "03:29:30", "text": "Bachulinum toxin is one of the most potent toxins on Earth. Estimates put the casualty count at somewhere between"}, {"start": "03:29:30", "end": "03:29:37", "text": "1 and 2% of the Cuban civilian population. We're talking hundreds of thousands dead. Now, luckily, Operation"}, {"start": "03:29:37", "end": "03:29:44", "text": "Mongoose ended and this never came to pass. But when a disease landed on Cuba out of nowhere, all signs pointed to the"}, {"start": "03:29:44", "end": "03:29:47", "text": "CIA."}, {"start": "03:29:51", "end": "03:29:57", "text": "In 1977, Long Island newspaper News Day reported two Cuban exiles admitted they"}, {"start": "03:29:57", "end": "03:30:04", "text": "were part of the plot. They said in early 1971, they were given the virus at Fort Gulik in Panama. They then traveled"}, {"start": "03:30:04", "end": "03:30:11", "text": "to Nasa Island near Cuba and smuggled the virus to the island. Now, there is proof that the US Navy was on NASA"}, {"start": "03:30:11", "end": "03:30:18", "text": "Island in early 1971, but they claim this was a scientific mission, though the science they were researching was"}, {"start": "03:30:18", "end": "03:30:24", "text": "looking for animal diseases that could jump to humans. Now, that might be a coincidence, but there's only one place"}, {"start": "03:30:24", "end": "03:30:29", "text": "in the Western Hemisphere that has live African swine flu. That's Plum Island."}, {"start": "03:30:29", "end": "03:30:36", "text": "And the way African swine flu is transmitted through ticks. This was the exact method of biological attack that"}, {"start": "03:30:36", "end": "03:30:41", "text": "Eric Trab specialized in. Of course, the CIA denied all of this and still does,"}, {"start": "03:30:41", "end": "03:30:47", "text": "but it has to. Why does the CIA have to deny this? Well, this attack happened in 1971."}, {"start": "03:30:47", "end": "03:30:52", "text": "President Richard Nixon ordered all bioweapon research to stop in 1969. So,"}, {"start": "03:30:52", "end": "03:31:00", "text": "there's no way the CIA could have been involved, right? Oh, I know where this is going. But in 1975, a congressional report revealed"}, {"start": "03:31:00", "end": "03:31:06", "text": "that the CIA continued to maintain a stockpile of biological weapons. Lots of them in violation of the order."}, {"start": "03:31:06", "end": "03:31:13", "text": "The CIA doesn't like to follow orders. No, they don't. And this was a terrifying prospect. Who is in charge of"}, {"start": "03:31:13", "end": "03:31:19", "text": "these dangerous bioweapons? With no oversight, there's a high risk that one of these diseases could infect the"}, {"start": "03:31:19", "end": "03:31:27", "text": "population and we'd never see it coming. Turns out that's exactly what happened."}, {"start": "03:31:30", "end": "03:31:35", "text": "In 1975, Ronnie was working a security detail for a warehouse in Connecticut."}, {"start": "03:31:35", "end": "03:31:42", "text": "During his shift, he walked the building, the parking lot, and the fence around the property. During one of his rounds, he felt a pinch on his ankle. He"}, {"start": "03:31:42", "end": "03:31:48", "text": "was breaking in a new pair of boots, and he knew he'd spend the next few nights nursing sore feet. When he got home, the"}, {"start": "03:31:48", "end": "03:31:54", "text": "first thing he did was strip off those damn boots, and sure enough, he had a small red welt on his ankle. When he"}, {"start": "03:31:54", "end": "03:32:01", "text": "woke up the next morning, the small red welt had ballooned into a painful blister shaped like a bullseye. When he"}, {"start": "03:32:01", "end": "03:32:06", "text": "rubbed it, he felt a bump. He looked more closely. The bump was a bug, and it"}, {"start": "03:32:06", "end": "03:32:13", "text": "was alive. Ronnie grabbed a pair of tweezers, and when he pulled the bug out, it broke apart. A few days later,"}, {"start": "03:32:13", "end": "03:32:19", "text": "his joints started to ache, and he felt sick. He thought he had caught the flu, but it wasn't the flu."}, {"start": "03:32:19", "end": "03:32:27", "text": "In 1975, the small town of Old Lime, Connecticut, experienced an outbreak of a devastating new disease. Some people"}, {"start": "03:32:27", "end": "03:32:32", "text": "got rashes, some ran high fevers, others had painful swollen joints. Some people"}, {"start": "03:32:32", "end": "03:32:38", "text": "had all these symptoms as well as headaches, dizziness, and shortness of breath. In severe cases, people were"}, {"start": "03:32:38", "end": "03:32:44", "text": "becoming delusional, experiencing psychosis, and becoming paralyzed. At first, doctors misdiagnosed the"}, {"start": "03:32:44", "end": "03:32:51", "text": "condition as a type of arthritis. They named it Lyme arthritis after the town that had the first outbreak. 2 years"}, {"start": "03:32:51", "end": "03:32:56", "text": "later, scientists finally connected Lyme arthritis to the bite of a deer tick. A"}, {"start": "03:32:56", "end": "03:33:02", "text": "type of single cell bacteria called Burellia was to blame for what's now known as Lyme disease. As the reports of"}, {"start": "03:33:02", "end": "03:33:10", "text": "symptoms came in, these cases were placed on a map. A disturbing picture started to appear. Ground zero was Plum"}, {"start": "03:33:10", "end": "03:33:17", "text": "Island. This was another disease spread by ticks. This also has Eric Trab's fingerprints all over it. But was the"}, {"start": "03:33:17", "end": "03:33:23", "text": "outbreak an accident? Or is the government conducting a test on the population without their knowledge? If"}, {"start": "03:33:23", "end": "03:33:28", "text": "it was a test, it wouldn't be the first time. In the 1930s, the Tuskegee"}, {"start": "03:33:28", "end": "03:33:36", "text": "experiment infected 400 men with syphilis to see how the disease affected black males. They were denied treatment."}, {"start": "03:33:36", "end": "03:33:42", "text": "The US government has infected prisoners with cow blood and exposed people to plutonium. It really was the Kmart of"}, {"start": "03:33:42", "end": "03:33:49", "text": "human experimentation from 1951 to 1974."}, {"start": "03:33:49", "end": "03:33:56", "text": "Operation Sea Spray was a secret test in 1950 where the government dropped bacteria on the entire city of San"}, {"start": "03:33:56", "end": "03:34:01", "text": "Francisco. In 1966, the Army released bacteria into the New York subway to"}, {"start": "03:34:01", "end": "03:34:08", "text": "simulate a biological attack. Hey, if you can make it there, uh, you can make it anywhere. Project 112 and"}, {"start": "03:34:08", "end": "03:34:15", "text": "Project Shad infected thousands of military personnel with biological agents like BZ and nerve toxins like"}, {"start": "03:34:15", "end": "03:34:23", "text": "sarin gas. The tests themselves were uh a lot of smoke. The planes would uh let out a uh"}, {"start": "03:34:23", "end": "03:34:30", "text": "like a smoke or gas type thing and it would it would also cover the ship. The crew was given gas mess and told not"}, {"start": "03:34:30", "end": "03:34:36", "text": "to worry. They were exposed to toxic nerve gas at least 46 times. Nobody knows how many"}, {"start": "03:34:36", "end": "03:34:44", "text": "people were killed. The records are still mostly classified. And there are more. Lots more. Tests without consent"}, {"start": "03:34:44", "end": "03:34:50", "text": "have been conducted as recently as the 1990s, many involving children. And that's just what's been exposed. Who"}, {"start": "03:34:50", "end": "03:34:57", "text": "knows how many more tests are still classified or if tests are still taking place. We do know that some civilians"}, {"start": "03:34:57", "end": "03:35:02", "text": "were exposed uh in tests that uh occurred in Hawaii"}, {"start": "03:35:02", "end": "03:35:07", "text": "uh possibly in Alaska and possibly in"}, {"start": "03:35:07", "end": "03:35:13", "text": "Florida. The military and intelligence community of course continue to deny any"}, {"start": "03:35:13", "end": "03:35:18", "text": "wrongdoing. They deny that bioweapon research was done at Plum Island and they deny that Lyme disease was"}, {"start": "03:35:18", "end": "03:35:25", "text": "artificially created and released to the public. But denial is not good enough. We know the CIA and military violate"}, {"start": "03:35:25", "end": "03:35:32", "text": "orders time and time again, and we know they lie when they do it. So, in 2019, Congressman Christopher Smith from New"}, {"start": "03:35:32", "end": "03:35:38", "text": "Jersey proposed an amendment to the 2020 defense bill. For years, Mr. Speaker, books and"}, {"start": "03:35:38", "end": "03:35:43", "text": "articles have been written credibly asserting that significant research at Fort Dietrich and Plum Island and"}, {"start": "03:35:43", "end": "03:35:50", "text": "elsewhere was conducted to turn ticks into bioweapons. Mr. Speaker, with Lyme disease and other tickborne diseases"}, {"start": "03:35:50", "end": "03:35:56", "text": "exploding in the United States, an estimated 300,000 to 427,000"}, {"start": "03:35:56", "end": "03:36:02", "text": "cases new cases each year. And 10 to 20% of those people with chronic lime."}, {"start": "03:36:02", "end": "03:36:08", "text": "Americans have a right to know whether or not any of this is true. But what prompted this? Well, the"}, {"start": "03:36:08", "end": "03:36:15", "text": "bacteria that causes Lyme disease is called Borrellia Burgdorfery after Willie Bergdorfer who discovered it."}, {"start": "03:36:15", "end": "03:36:21", "text": "Now, Burgdorfer was widely known as a leading researcher in the scientific study of insects and his discovery of"}, {"start": "03:36:21", "end": "03:36:27", "text": "Lyme disease was historic. But what's not widely known about Burgdorfer is that early in his career, he developed"}, {"start": "03:36:27", "end": "03:36:37", "text": "biological weapons for the US military. Specifically, he weaponized ticks. And between 1966 and 1969, almost 300,000"}, {"start": "03:36:37", "end": "03:36:42", "text": "research ticks, they got out."}, {"start": "03:36:42", "end": "03:36:50", "text": "Dr. Willie Bergdoffer, the researcher who was credited with discovering Lyme disease. Turns out Dr. Bergdoffer was a"}, {"start": "03:36:50", "end": "03:36:56", "text": "bioweapons specialist. The interviews combined with access to Dr. Bergdorfer's"}, {"start": "03:36:56", "end": "03:37:02", "text": "files reveals that he and other bioweapons specialists stuffed ticks with pathogens in a quest to cause"}, {"start": "03:37:02", "end": "03:37:07", "text": "disability disease and death."}, {"start": "03:37:08", "end": "03:37:14", "text": "Between 1966 and 1969, government researchers released 300,000 ticks into"}, {"start": "03:37:14", "end": "03:37:21", "text": "the wild. The ticks were irradiated so they could be tracked. 300,000 irradiated ticks. Oh, what could"}, {"start": "03:37:21", "end": "03:37:27", "text": "possibly go wrong? Oh, plenty. One of the species released were Lonear ticks. Lonear ticks are"}, {"start": "03:37:27", "end": "03:37:34", "text": "especially aggressive. Most tick species wait for prey by attaching to a blade of grass. When an animal brushes against"}, {"start": "03:37:34", "end": "03:37:41", "text": "it, the tick latches on. This is called questing. Lonear ticks are different. They don't wait. They actively hunt."}, {"start": "03:37:41", "end": "03:37:48", "text": "They can smell the ammonia in sweat and the carbon dioxide from breath. They're the only ticks with eyes. Unlike other"}, {"start": "03:37:48", "end": "03:37:54", "text": "ticks, the lonear can bite multiple times. Even their young, called nymphs,"}, {"start": "03:37:54", "end": "03:38:00", "text": "can feed on humans. Lone star ticks can go months without food. They can absorb"}, {"start": "03:38:00", "end": "03:38:07", "text": "water from the air. They can survive underwater. They can be frozen. Female lonear ticks lay hundreds of thousands"}, {"start": "03:38:07", "end": "03:38:13", "text": "of eggs at a time. And scariest of all, lonear ticks swarm. They'll ball"}, {"start": "03:38:13", "end": "03:38:20", "text": "themselves up in groups of almost 10,000 ticks. And when an animal or person brushes up against a group, it means"}, {"start": "03:38:20", "end": "03:38:27", "text": "thousands of tick bites. And these ticks carry a lot of diseases. Rocky Mountain spotted fever, ericchiosis, tarmia,"}, {"start": "03:38:27", "end": "03:38:34", "text": "heartland virus, and on and on. A bite from a lonear tick can even trigger a delayed allergic reaction to meat."}, {"start": "03:38:34", "end": "03:38:41", "text": "That tick bite leads to an allergic response to the alpha gal sugar that's"}, {"start": "03:38:41", "end": "03:38:46", "text": "found in red meat. I wish they would invent a tick that gives you an allergic reaction to fish."}, {"start": "03:38:46", "end": "03:38:51", "text": "Huh? Now, forever the Lonear tick was confined to the southeast United States,"}, {"start": "03:38:51", "end": "03:38:58", "text": "but thousands were released in Virginia in the late 1960s. Since then, they've expanded to the entire eastern half of"}, {"start": "03:38:58", "end": "03:39:06", "text": "the United States, from Minnesota to Maine, down to Florida, and all the way across Texas, and they're still moving."}, {"start": "03:39:06", "end": "03:39:12", "text": "I was called to investigate an outbreak, and I was horrified. I've studied ticks for 10 years, and the number of Lonear"}, {"start": "03:39:12", "end": "03:39:17", "text": "Lari I found was just astonishing. They're everywhere. Every property that"}, {"start": "03:39:17", "end": "03:39:24", "text": "we have gone to, we've found Lonear ticks. They're literally every place. I hope this isn't the new normal, but I"}, {"start": "03:39:24", "end": "03:39:31", "text": "fear that they're exploding in numbers. The CDC says alpha gal syndrome, traditionally found in mid-Atlantic"}, {"start": "03:39:31", "end": "03:39:38", "text": "states, is spreading. 110,000 suspected cases have been identified since 2010."}, {"start": "03:39:38", "end": "03:39:45", "text": "But experts estimate the true number affected is closer to 450,000."}, {"start": "03:39:45", "end": "03:39:52", "text": "Plum Island boasted how it was considered the safest virus lab in the world until it wasn't. In 1978, foot and"}, {"start": "03:39:52", "end": "03:39:57", "text": "mouth disease did get out. Every animal on the island had to be cremated, but"}, {"start": "03:39:57", "end": "03:40:04", "text": "not before lunch. Wait, wait, wait. Did you just say lunch? Well, hey, even scientists working at a top secret government germ lab got to"}, {"start": "03:40:04", "end": "03:40:09", "text": "eat. On kill day, the guys upstairs would carve up steaks from sirloins to pork"}, {"start": "03:40:09", "end": "03:40:16", "text": "chops. Not USDA grade A, but USDA grade V for virus. Everyone to a man would"}, {"start": "03:40:16", "end": "03:40:22", "text": "deny it. But we did it. We ate the meat. Ugh, I don't feel well."}, {"start": "03:40:22", "end": "03:40:28", "text": "Yeah, not only is it gross to eat meat infected with foot and mouth disease, it's a little irresponsible. Now, FMD"}, {"start": "03:40:28", "end": "03:40:34", "text": "isn't dangerous to humans, but this speaks to shoddy conditions at Plum Island. After the foot and mouth"}, {"start": "03:40:34", "end": "03:40:39", "text": "breakout, the USDA inspected the facility. They wrote 190 page report"}, {"start": "03:40:39", "end": "03:40:47", "text": "detailing how mismanaged it was. They found leaking roofs, leaking walls, steel beams rusted through. They found"}, {"start": "03:40:47", "end": "03:40:53", "text": "an incinerator lying in a ditch half filled with dirty water. And soon after this, there was an outbreak of Rift"}, {"start": "03:40:53", "end": "03:41:00", "text": "Valley fever on the island. Weaponized RVF was being tested by infecting mosquitoes. Some mosquitoes got out and"}, {"start": "03:41:00", "end": "03:41:05", "text": "bit the scientists. Now, luckily, they knew how to treat it. But if those mosquitoes got off the island and made"}, {"start": "03:41:05", "end": "03:41:14", "text": "it to shore, Rift Valley fever presents like the flu, but if you don't treat it, it kills you. In 2002, 76 Plum Island"}, {"start": "03:41:14", "end": "03:41:20", "text": "workers went on strike. Scabs were brought in to replace them, and it did not go well. The FBI conducted an"}, {"start": "03:41:20", "end": "03:41:27", "text": "investigation and found all kinds of issues. A 600-gallon container of liquid nitrogen somehow fell off one of the"}, {"start": "03:41:27", "end": "03:41:33", "text": "island's berries. Hundreds of gallons of oil and chemicals were spilled all over the island. Two workers drove off with a"}, {"start": "03:41:33", "end": "03:41:39", "text": "minivan and didn't come back. The van was later found, but whatever was in it was gone. and failing to learn from"}, {"start": "03:41:39", "end": "03:41:46", "text": "their mistakes. Two years later, there were two more outbreaks of foot and mouth disease on Plum Island. In New"}, {"start": "03:41:46", "end": "03:41:52", "text": "Haven, Connecticut, a worker at Yale University's Arbo virus lab became infected with seabilla virus. This virus"}, {"start": "03:41:52", "end": "03:41:59", "text": "causes extremely high fevers and internal bleeding. So, he got infected, went home, and took a trip to Boston. If"}, {"start": "03:41:59", "end": "03:42:06", "text": "anyone got sick, that information is not public. More recently, a Fort Dietrich researcher accidentally stuck herself"}, {"start": "03:42:06", "end": "03:42:12", "text": "with a needle containing Ebola. These breakdowns in security of facilities like Plum Island prompted a nationwide"}, {"start": "03:42:12", "end": "03:42:19", "text": "investigation. But a 2007 report revealed that 113 bioweapon capable labs"}, {"start": "03:42:19", "end": "03:42:25", "text": "around the United States refused to comply with inspections. And this is not just a violation of federal law. It's a"}, {"start": "03:42:25", "end": "03:42:32", "text": "violation of the Geneva Conventions. But President George W. Bush granted the facilities amnesty from inspections and"}, {"start": "03:42:32", "end": "03:42:38", "text": "Congress agreed. Wait, wait, wait, wait. The United States can decide when it doesn't want to follow the Geneva Conventions."}, {"start": "03:42:38", "end": "03:42:44", "text": "No, but it decides anyway. Yes. And other countries don't complain. Oh, they complain. But"}, {"start": "03:42:44", "end": "03:42:52", "text": "but if you want those billions of financial aid to keep flowing, shut your yap. Bingo. Biological weapons were banned in"}, {"start": "03:42:52", "end": "03:42:58", "text": "1925 by the Geneva Protocol. But the United States refused to sign it. It wasn't until Richard Nixon banned"}, {"start": "03:42:58", "end": "03:43:05", "text": "bioweapons research that the US agreed to a worldwide ban. The US finally signed the Geneva Protocol in 1975."}, {"start": "03:43:05", "end": "03:43:11", "text": "Somebody let the CIA know. These scary events happened in relatively small labs around the country"}, {"start": "03:43:11", "end": "03:43:18", "text": "with maybe a few dozen to a few hundred employees. Can you imagine what would happen if there was a leak at the CDC"}, {"start": "03:43:18", "end": "03:43:23", "text": "with 10,000 employees? Whoa, whoa, whoa. The CDC had a leak. A leak? No. Oh, thank God."}, {"start": "03:43:23", "end": "03:43:27", "text": "They've had dozens. Oh, no."}, {"start": "03:43:30", "end": "03:43:37", "text": "In May 2012, 24year-old Amy Copeland and a few friends were ziplining near the Talapusa River in Georgia. During one of"}, {"start": "03:43:37", "end": "03:43:44", "text": "Amy's runs, she heard a snap. The zipline broke and she fell into the creek below. She landed on sharp rocks"}, {"start": "03:43:44", "end": "03:43:50", "text": "and cut her leg pretty badly. She went through routine surgery, but over the next 2 days developed a fever and severe"}, {"start": "03:43:50", "end": "03:43:57", "text": "pain. Amy was infected with arommonous hydrophila, a rare type of flesheating bacteria. This bacteria moves faster"}, {"start": "03:43:57", "end": "03:44:04", "text": "than antibiotics can work. So, the only way to remove it is to remove the limbs it infects. So, you have to move fast."}, {"start": "03:44:04", "end": "03:44:09", "text": "Amy survived but lost both hands, both feet, and her entire left leg. But"}, {"start": "03:44:09", "end": "03:44:16", "text": "suddenly, more cases of this rare disease were popping up. Georgia, South Carolina, Northern Florida. When looking"}, {"start": "03:44:16", "end": "03:44:23", "text": "at these cases on a map, people started asking, \"How secure is the CDC building in Atlanta?\" Well, not as secure as"}, {"start": "03:44:23", "end": "03:44:29", "text": "you'd hope. In June of 2012, just weeks after Amy Copelan's accident, it was"}, {"start": "03:44:29", "end": "03:44:35", "text": "reported that the CDC building in Atlanta had an airflow problem. Rather than drawing clean air into a"}, {"start": "03:44:35", "end": "03:44:42", "text": "contaminated lab, it was blowing contaminated air out. Dirty germy air. Yep. In that building, they study SARS,"}, {"start": "03:44:42", "end": "03:44:49", "text": "monkey pox, and anthrax. Oh, the heavy metal band. The disease. Ah, that makes more sense."}, {"start": "03:44:49", "end": "03:44:55", "text": "While transporting samples, about 80 employees in Atlanta may have been exposed to live anthrax."}, {"start": "03:44:55", "end": "03:45:01", "text": "Live anthrax? So you mean like in constant? Still the disease. Ah, right."}, {"start": "03:45:01", "end": "03:45:08", "text": "About a year later, it was found that the CDC was storing anthrax in unlocked refrigerators in unrestricted areas. At"}, {"start": "03:45:08", "end": "03:45:15", "text": "least five times the CDC improperly handled and shipped deadly pathogens to different labs around the country."}, {"start": "03:45:15", "end": "03:45:21", "text": "Anthrax, bachulism, and bird flu. About a week after this report, old vials of"}, {"start": "03:45:21", "end": "03:45:27", "text": "smallox were discovered in a building on the Bethesda campus of the National Institutes of Health. And this was after"}, {"start": "03:45:27", "end": "03:45:35", "text": "the NIH promised to do better. Better than what? Well, about a year before, a deadly bacteria got out and 12 people died."}, {"start": "03:45:35", "end": "03:45:40", "text": "In 2016, investigations show more CDC safety lapses with storing and handling"}, {"start": "03:45:40", "end": "03:45:47", "text": "anthrax and Ebola. From software errors to power outages to sealing doors with duct tape. Uh uh did you just say they"}, {"start": "03:45:47", "end": "03:45:53", "text": "use duct tape to keep in deadly viruses? Yep. And this goes on and on. And these"}, {"start": "03:45:53", "end": "03:45:58", "text": "are just the instances we know about. It's not like the CDC issues a press release every time there's a security"}, {"start": "03:45:58", "end": "03:46:04", "text": "failure. Most of these discoveries were made with freedom of information requests from citizens."}, {"start": "03:46:04", "end": "03:46:11", "text": "These types of leaks and failures do happen and they happen more frequently than most people think. These safety"}, {"start": "03:46:11", "end": "03:46:17", "text": "problems are at the CDC in Atlanta, one of the most secure facilities on the planet. If a leak can happen there, they"}, {"start": "03:46:17", "end": "03:46:22", "text": "can happen in other places. Yeah, Chinese places. Well, let's not single out any specific"}, {"start": "03:46:22", "end": "03:46:29", "text": "country. Sheep. Look, just because that rare flesheating bacteria is not so rare anymore, I'm not"}, {"start": "03:46:29", "end": "03:46:35", "text": "saying it came from the CDC. And Lyme disease probably wasn't created on Plum Island because there's evidence it"}, {"start": "03:46:35", "end": "03:46:41", "text": "existed for a long time. You know, AI, the 5,000-year-old mummy who was found in the Alps, well, his DNA showed"}, {"start": "03:46:41", "end": "03:46:46", "text": "evidence of Lyme disease. But the outbreak of Lyme disease does"}, {"start": "03:46:46", "end": "03:46:52", "text": "coincide with research into weaponizing ticks. And the expansion of Lonear ticks"}, {"start": "03:46:52", "end": "03:46:58", "text": "does coincide with the uncontrolled releases of thousands of them in the late 1960s. Dr. Willie Bergdorfer before"}, {"start": "03:46:58", "end": "03:47:04", "text": "he died did kind of say that Lyme disease was a research experiment gone"}, {"start": "03:47:04", "end": "03:47:11", "text": "wrong. Maybe he had advanced Parkinson's so it's really hard to tell what he was saying, but there are people who believe"}, {"start": "03:47:11", "end": "03:47:18", "text": "that there's no question about it. Books like Lab 257 by Michael Christopher Carroll and Bitten by Chris Newbie lay"}, {"start": "03:47:18", "end": "03:47:25", "text": "out a very convincing case. Now, there's plenty of evidence, but evidence isn't proof. And researching this episode was"}, {"start": "03:47:25", "end": "03:47:32", "text": "stressful. The idea that the government has tested bioweapons on its citizens is upsetting enough, but what's really"}, {"start": "03:47:32", "end": "03:47:37", "text": "scary is how sloppy the security is in our labs. I had no idea it was this bad."}, {"start": "03:47:37", "end": "03:47:42", "text": "And given what's happened over the past couple of years, we need to pay attention. If you have one of these labs"}, {"start": "03:47:42", "end": "03:47:49", "text": "near you, get to know your congressman. Demand that lab safety protocols are made public. Demand to know the result"}, {"start": "03:47:49", "end": "03:47:55", "text": "of any safety investigations. Now, they're not going to tell you any of that, but if they know we're watching,"}, {"start": "03:47:55", "end": "03:48:01", "text": "they'll pay closer attention to safety procedures. We hope. And look, if you're in the New York or Boston area, you can"}, {"start": "03:48:01", "end": "03:48:07", "text": "stop worrying about Plum Island. It's scheduled to be closed at the end of this year. But the work currently being"}, {"start": "03:48:07", "end": "03:48:13", "text": "performed there will continue. It'll just take place at a new facility in Kansas, in the middle of the country, in"}, {"start": "03:48:13", "end": "03:48:19", "text": "the middle of America's food supply. Bonapetit"}, {"start": "03:48:21", "end": "03:48:26", "text": "3 + 1 5 plus 0. It's controversial to say, but I'm"}, {"start": "03:48:26", "end": "03:48:31", "text": "pretty sure Lyme disease was a military experiment gone wrong. And I'm not the only one who feels this way. There have"}, {"start": "03:48:31", "end": "03:48:39", "text": "been quite a few books published exactly on that subject laying out the proof. In fact, I use those books in the episode."}, {"start": "03:48:39", "end": "03:48:45", "text": "But I never in a million years expect the US government to admit that they did this. But what about the crimes that the"}, {"start": "03:48:45", "end": "03:48:53", "text": "government has admitted to? This happened in 2007 with a huge CIA document dump. And buried in those pages"}, {"start": "03:48:53", "end": "03:48:58", "text": "are some of the darkest and most heinous crimes in history. This is episode 189,"}, {"start": "03:48:58", "end": "03:49:02", "text": "the CIA family jewels."}, {"start": "03:49:15", "end": "03:49:22", "text": "On June 25th, 2007, the CIA quietly released 693 pages of their darkest"}, {"start": "03:49:22", "end": "03:49:29", "text": "secrets to the website. No announcement, no press conference, just a document dump of operations so illegal they've"}, {"start": "03:49:29", "end": "03:49:37", "text": "been hidden since 1973. The CIA called this collection their family jewels. Assassination plots, mind"}, {"start": "03:49:37", "end": "03:49:42", "text": "control experiments, journalists on CIA payroll, surveillance of hundreds of"}, {"start": "03:49:42", "end": "03:49:50", "text": "thousands of Americans who'd committed no crimes. These weren't conspiracy theories. These were real. Each page of"}, {"start": "03:49:50", "end": "03:49:57", "text": "the family jewels revealed operations approved at the highest levels. Operations that violated every law meant"}, {"start": "03:49:57", "end": "03:50:05", "text": "to constrain the CIA. And taken together, they revealed something darker than isolated crimes. They told a story."}, {"start": "03:50:05", "end": "03:50:12", "text": "The story of the family jewels is the story of the real CIA."}, {"start": "03:50:18", "end": "03:50:24", "text": "The story of the family jewels didn't start in 2007. It starts in 1973 when"}, {"start": "03:50:24", "end": "03:50:31", "text": "the walls started closing in on the CIA. On May 9th, James Slesinger had been CIA"}, {"start": "03:50:31", "end": "03:50:37", "text": "director for only three months, and his timing couldn't have been worse. The Watergate break-in scandal was"}, {"start": "03:50:37", "end": "03:50:44", "text": "spreading. The five intruders were all connected to the CIA, some as officers, some as assets. The planners of the"}, {"start": "03:50:44", "end": "03:50:49", "text": "break-in were E. Howard Hunt and G. Gordon Litty. Hunt was former CIA. Litty"}, {"start": "03:50:49", "end": "03:50:55", "text": "was former FBI with a background in intelligence. Congress and the press were asking questions the CIA didn't"}, {"start": "03:50:55", "end": "03:51:01", "text": "want to answer. But the director had a problem. He didn't know what his own agency had done. He knew there were"}, {"start": "03:51:01", "end": "03:51:07", "text": "secrets buried that could destroy them if ever discovered. So he issued an order to every department head. Report"}, {"start": "03:51:07", "end": "03:51:14", "text": "any activity that may have violated the CIA's charter. This was supposed to be a routine investigation, a way to get the"}, {"start": "03:51:14", "end": "03:51:19", "text": "agency out of the headlines. The rumors were bad. He had no idea that the truth"}, {"start": "03:51:19", "end": "03:51:27", "text": "was much worse. One department admitted to opening mail between the US and Soviet Union. 28"}, {"start": "03:51:27", "end": "03:51:33", "text": "million letters over 20 years were illegally opened and scanned. The Office of Security confessed to wiretapping"}, {"start": "03:51:33", "end": "03:51:40", "text": "American journalists who'd been asking too many questions. Every department submitted reports. Every report was"}, {"start": "03:51:40", "end": "03:51:46", "text": "worse than the last. There were disclosures of surveillance operations, not against foreign spies, against"}, {"start": "03:51:46", "end": "03:51:53", "text": "Americans. Anyone who questioned authority was a CIA target. Some programs were classified secret, then"}, {"start": "03:51:53", "end": "03:51:58", "text": "top secret. But operations classified eyes only were so secret details"}, {"start": "03:51:58", "end": "03:52:06", "text": "couldn't be written down. They were labeled sensitive operation details available orally only. Others had code"}, {"start": "03:52:06", "end": "03:52:12", "text": "names that revealed nothing. MH Chaos, HT Lingual, MK often. Week after week,"}, {"start": "03:52:12", "end": "03:52:19", "text": "the secrets poured in. Programs everyone thought were conspiracy theories. The binder was getting heavy. By summary, it"}, {"start": "03:52:19", "end": "03:52:26", "text": "was several inches thick. Almost 700 pages of CIA misconduct. But these weren't occasional mistakes. They were"}, {"start": "03:52:26", "end": "03:52:32", "text": "approved, funded, and executed. In other words, decades of illegal CIA operation"}, {"start": "03:52:32", "end": "03:52:37", "text": "was official policy. This was a report that could destroy the agency. And then"}, {"start": "03:52:37", "end": "03:52:43", "text": "it leaked, not from a spy, but from a journalist who believed in transparency."}, {"start": "03:52:43", "end": "03:52:49", "text": "But he had no idea he was about to expose the biggest intelligence scandal in American history. And as soon as the"}, {"start": "03:52:49", "end": "03:52:54", "text": "CIA caught wind of his investigation, he became the AY's biggest threat and knew"}, {"start": "03:52:54", "end": "03:52:58", "text": "his target."}, {"start": "03:53:01", "end": "03:53:07", "text": "The journalist who would expose it all was no stranger to government lies. Seymour Hirs had already won a Puliter"}, {"start": "03:53:07", "end": "03:53:14", "text": "Prize in 1969 for exposing the Myai massacre where American soldiers slaughtered hundreds of Vietnamese"}, {"start": "03:53:14", "end": "03:53:20", "text": "civilians. The Pentagon tried to bury that story. Hirs dragged it into the light."}, {"start": "03:53:20", "end": "03:53:27", "text": "By December 1974, Hirs was at the New York Times, and he'd been hearing whispers from former CIA officers about"}, {"start": "03:53:27", "end": "03:53:34", "text": "domestic surveillance programs, programs that weren't supposed to exist. The CIA's charter was crystal clear. No"}, {"start": "03:53:34", "end": "03:53:40", "text": "domestic operations, no spying on American citizens, period. But his sources were telling him the opposite,"}, {"start": "03:53:40", "end": "03:53:46", "text": "that the CIA was running a massive operation against Americans. On December"}, {"start": "03:53:46", "end": "03:53:52", "text": "22nd, 1974, The Times ran Hersh's story on the front page."}, {"start": "03:53:52", "end": "03:53:59", "text": "The article detailed a massive intelligence operation with files on 10,000 American citizens. Not foreign"}, {"start": "03:53:59", "end": "03:54:04", "text": "agents, not terrorists, Americans, anti-war activists, civil rights"}, {"start": "03:54:04", "end": "03:54:10", "text": "leaders, journalists, even members of Congress. The backlash was instant. The"}, {"start": "03:54:10", "end": "03:54:16", "text": "public was outraged, and the press wouldn't let it go. The next morning, the Department of Justice announced an"}, {"start": "03:54:16", "end": "03:54:23", "text": "investigation and CIA Director William Colby was summoned to Air Force One to brief President Ford personally."}, {"start": "03:54:23", "end": "03:54:28", "text": "President Ford's solution was damage control. Control the narrative. Vice"}, {"start": "03:54:28", "end": "03:54:35", "text": "President Nelson Rockefeller would lead a commission to investigate. Quick, clean, controlled. The scandal would"}, {"start": "03:54:35", "end": "03:54:40", "text": "finally be contained. But it backfired. The commission not only confirmed"}, {"start": "03:54:40", "end": "03:54:45", "text": "everything Hirs reported, they found more. The CIA had conducted break-ins"}, {"start": "03:54:45", "end": "03:54:53", "text": "against American citizens, bugged their homes, opened their mail, tapped their phones, even tested biological weapons"}, {"start": "03:54:53", "end": "03:54:59", "text": "on Americans without their knowledge. The agency wasn't just violating its charter, it was breaking the law. And"}, {"start": "03:54:59", "end": "03:55:05", "text": "every target was an American citizen on American soil."}, {"start": "03:55:05", "end": "03:55:10", "text": "the uh agency uh does monitor foreign communications."}, {"start": "03:55:10", "end": "03:55:16", "text": "How do you define foreign communications? I think it is uh communications that uh"}, {"start": "03:55:16", "end": "03:55:21", "text": "go abroad or are abroad. I think uh they"}, {"start": "03:55:21", "end": "03:55:28", "text": "does it involve a United States citizen at one end on some occasions that cannot be"}, {"start": "03:55:28", "end": "03:55:33", "text": "separated from the uh from the traffic that is being monitored. I believe"}, {"start": "03:55:33", "end": "03:55:40", "text": "these operations weren't the work of rogue agents. They were approved at the highest levels by CIA directors, by the"}, {"start": "03:55:40", "end": "03:55:47", "text": "Pentagon, by former presidents and vice presidents. It turned out that most of these abuses"}, {"start": "03:55:47", "end": "03:55:53", "text": "really could be trailed back to the president and the NS. They initiated"}, {"start": "03:55:53", "end": "03:56:01", "text": "them. They knew about them. In some cases, for example, assassinations. Eisenhower was the first to suggest it."}, {"start": "03:56:01", "end": "03:56:09", "text": "And so this was this was really not a rogue uh president, I mean rogue agency."}, {"start": "03:56:09", "end": "03:56:15", "text": "This was in some respects a rogue presidency. Congress knew they needed their own"}, {"start": "03:56:15", "end": "03:56:21", "text": "investigation. Senator Frank Church was chosen to lead what would become the most extensive investigation of"}, {"start": "03:56:21", "end": "03:56:27", "text": "intelligence activities ever conducted. And the Church Committee had something the president's commission didn't."}, {"start": "03:56:27", "end": "03:56:32", "text": "Subpoena power. The power to force anyone involved to testify."}, {"start": "03:56:32", "end": "03:56:37", "text": "Noah hiding behind national security. No I can neither confirm nor deny. Tell the"}, {"start": "03:56:37", "end": "03:56:44", "text": "truth or go to jail. For the first time in history, the CIA would have to reveal their covert operations under oath and"}, {"start": "03:56:44", "end": "03:56:49", "text": "on the record. And what they revealed shocked everyone because any American"}, {"start": "03:56:49", "end": "03:56:56", "text": "could be a target. And as the investigation continued, that list of American targets kept getting longer and"}, {"start": "03:56:56", "end": "03:56:59", "text": "longer."}, {"start": "03:57:03", "end": "03:57:11", "text": "The Church Committee's first major discovery was Operation Chaos, known by its cryptonym Chaos. Started in 1967"}, {"start": "03:57:11", "end": "03:57:17", "text": "under President Johnson and expanded under Nixon. The mission was simple. Find foreign influence in the anti-war"}, {"start": "03:57:17", "end": "03:57:24", "text": "movement. proved that Moscow or Beijing were behind the protests. They never found any foreign influence, not one"}, {"start": "03:57:24", "end": "03:57:31", "text": "case. The anti-war movement was made up of Americans, but they kept looking for communists, and the program kept"}, {"start": "03:57:31", "end": "03:57:38", "text": "growing. By 1973, chaos had indexed 300,000 Americans in its computer"}, {"start": "03:57:38", "end": "03:57:44", "text": "system. Not suspected spies, not foreign agents. Americans exercising their First"}, {"start": "03:57:44", "end": "03:57:49", "text": "Amendment rights, college students, clergy, professors, journalists, anyone"}, {"start": "03:57:49", "end": "03:57:55", "text": "who questioned the Vietnam War was a potential target. Richard Ober ran the operation. He worked under James Jesus"}, {"start": "03:57:55", "end": "03:58:03", "text": "Angleton, the CIA's counter intelligence chief. Angleton had built his own empire within the CIA. He was brilliant,"}, {"start": "03:58:03", "end": "03:58:10", "text": "paranoid, and convinced that enemies were everywhere. The CIA was designed to protect America from foreign threats."}, {"start": "03:58:10", "end": "03:58:16", "text": "But Angleton had turned those weapons inward against his own citizens. They used a sophisticated computer system to"}, {"start": "03:58:16", "end": "03:58:22", "text": "track everyone. It cross referenced every name mentioned in every intelligence report, feed in one name,"}, {"start": "03:58:22", "end": "03:58:27", "text": "get connections to dozens more, like a spiderweb expanding outward. 7,200"}, {"start": "03:58:27", "end": "03:58:34", "text": "Americans had dedicated files. Their mail was opened and their phones were tapped without a warrant. Their trash"}, {"start": "03:58:34", "end": "03:58:41", "text": "was searched. CIA agents infiltrated their organizations, attended their meetings, recorded their conversations."}, {"start": "03:58:41", "end": "03:58:47", "text": "The documents described domestic spying, opening of private mail, and the investigation of journalists. Agents"}, {"start": "03:58:47", "end": "03:58:52", "text": "watched former Washington Post reporter Michael Gler for 3 months in 1971."}, {"start": "03:58:52", "end": "03:58:59", "text": "They were watching who I was talking to. They were they they took pictures of who I was having lunch with. They actually"}, {"start": "03:58:59", "end": "03:59:05", "text": "took pictures um through the picture window of our home. CIA employees have"}, {"start": "03:59:05", "end": "03:59:11", "text": "nicknamed the documents the family jewels. Over 1,000 organizations were monitored,"}, {"start": "03:59:11", "end": "03:59:18", "text": "not just protest groups. The CIA watched Jewish organizations. The Israeli embassy was watched. When asked why, one"}, {"start": "03:59:18", "end": "03:59:25", "text": "CIA officer said they were looking for radical Jewish elements. American Jews practicing their faith, supporting"}, {"start": "03:59:25", "end": "03:59:32", "text": "Israel, were watched by their own government. And Chaos wasn't alone. Mary Mack infiltrated protest groups around"}, {"start": "03:59:32", "end": "03:59:39", "text": "Washington DC. Operation Resistance collected information on draft resistors. HTing, an earlier operation,"}, {"start": "03:59:39", "end": "03:59:46", "text": "was still running, and that was opening and photographing mail between Americans and foreign countries. The CIA didn't"}, {"start": "03:59:46", "end": "03:59:51", "text": "just target protesters. It also watched members of Congress. Bella Absug from"}, {"start": "03:59:51", "end": "03:59:59", "text": "New York, Paty Mink from Hawaii. A total of 14 members of Congress were on the CIA's watch list for being vocal critics"}, {"start": "03:59:59", "end": "04:00:05", "text": "of the Vietnam War. The violations were systemic. Every person who spoke out against the war,"}, {"start": "04:00:05", "end": "04:00:11", "text": "every group that organized a protest, every publication that questioned policy, all of them ended up in the"}, {"start": "04:00:11", "end": "04:00:16", "text": "computer system. Names, addresses, associates, activities, everything"}, {"start": "04:00:16", "end": "04:00:23", "text": "cataloged and cross-referenced. They turned spying into a science. But sometimes watching isn't enough."}, {"start": "04:00:23", "end": "04:00:29", "text": "Sometimes they needed boots on the ground. Sometimes direct action had to be used against American citizens. The"}, {"start": "04:00:29", "end": "04:00:38", "text": "CIA needed an agency willing to get their hands dirty. And they found the perfect partner, the FBI."}, {"start": "04:00:43", "end": "04:00:50", "text": "When it came to crushing Americans First Amendment rights, the CIA and the FBI were perfect partners. The CIA surveiled"}, {"start": "04:00:50", "end": "04:00:56", "text": "descent and the FBI dismantled it. The program was called Quintel PRO, short"}, {"start": "04:00:56", "end": "04:01:02", "text": "for Counter Intelligence Program. Officially, it targeted domestic subversives. Unofficially, it was a war"}, {"start": "04:01:02", "end": "04:01:09", "text": "on the First Amendment. Civil rights leaders were tracked. Activists were harassed. Some were"}, {"start": "04:01:09", "end": "04:01:14", "text": "imprisoned. Some were killed. One of the FBI's favorite targets was Martin Luther"}, {"start": "04:01:14", "end": "04:01:20", "text": "King Jr. J. Edgar Hoover had been watching Dr."}, {"start": "04:01:20", "end": "04:01:27", "text": "King since December 1955. The Montgomery bus boycott had just started. The young minister was making headlines. Hoover"}, {"start": "04:01:27", "end": "04:01:32", "text": "ordered surveillance and that surveillance would continue for the next 12 years. Right up until Dr. King was"}, {"start": "04:01:32", "end": "04:01:38", "text": "assassinated in Memphis. The FBI didn't just tap his phones. They"}, {"start": "04:01:38", "end": "04:01:45", "text": "bugged his home, his offices, every hotel room he stayed in. They had agents follow him 24 hours a day. They knew"}, {"start": "04:01:45", "end": "04:01:52", "text": "where he was every minute, who he talked to, what he said. They recorded everything. The FBI tried to prove he"}, {"start": "04:01:52", "end": "04:01:58", "text": "was a communist. They couldn't. They tried to link him to foreign agents. There was no evidence. What they found"}, {"start": "04:01:58", "end": "04:02:05", "text": "was a man who loved his country and believed in its founding principles. Justice, equality, the promises America"}, {"start": "04:02:05", "end": "04:02:11", "text": "made but hadn't kept. Cuz I have a dream"}, {"start": "04:02:11", "end": "04:02:17", "text": "that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they"}, {"start": "04:02:17", "end": "04:02:26", "text": "will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. I have a dream today."}, {"start": "04:02:26", "end": "04:02:32", "text": "And I consider Dr. Martin Luther King one of the greatest Americans who ever lived. But greatness doesn't equal"}, {"start": "04:02:32", "end": "04:02:37", "text": "perfection. Dr. King struggled with infidelity. So Jaggar Hoover got"}, {"start": "04:02:37", "end": "04:02:40", "text": "personal."}, {"start": "04:02:44", "end": "04:02:51", "text": "On November 21st, 1964, an unmarked package arrived at King's home. His wife, Ketta, opened it. Inside was a"}, {"start": "04:02:51", "end": "04:02:58", "text": "tape and a letter. The tape contained the hotel recordings. The letter was unsigned. It called Dr. King names that"}, {"start": "04:02:58", "end": "04:03:05", "text": "I won't repeat here, but the final paragraph was clear. King, there is only one thing left for you to do. You know"}, {"start": "04:03:05", "end": "04:03:11", "text": "what it is? You have 34 days. 34 days. Dr. King was scheduled to receive the"}, {"start": "04:03:11", "end": "04:03:17", "text": "Nobel Peace Prize in 35 days. The letter was telling him to kill himself or the"}, {"start": "04:03:17", "end": "04:03:23", "text": "FBI would destroy him publicly. The letter was likely written by William Sullivan, the FBI's assistant director,"}, {"start": "04:03:23", "end": "04:03:28", "text": "but the government has never admitted this. But the church committee found the evidence. A draft was in Sullivan's"}, {"start": "04:03:28", "end": "04:03:35", "text": "files. COINTEL Pro conducted over 2,000 documented actions. They forged letters"}, {"start": "04:03:35", "end": "04:03:42", "text": "to create conflicts, planted negative stories in newspapers, sent people to prison on false charges, incited"}, {"start": "04:03:42", "end": "04:03:50", "text": "violence between groups, destroyed marriages, ruined careers, drove people to suicide. The CIA watched the FBI"}, {"start": "04:03:50", "end": "04:03:56", "text": "destroyed. But controlling people through force wasn't enough. They wanted to control people without realizing they"}, {"start": "04:03:56", "end": "04:04:04", "text": "were being manipulated. To do that, they deployed an even more powerful weapon, the media."}, {"start": "04:04:09", "end": "04:04:14", "text": "There's a reason that protecting the press shows up right in the first amendment. The founding fathers knew"}, {"start": "04:04:14", "end": "04:04:21", "text": "that democracy needs watchd dogs. The press was supposed to hold the powerful accountable. Instead, the press became"}, {"start": "04:04:21", "end": "04:04:28", "text": "their mouthpiece. The CIA had been manipulating journalists since the early 1950s. Now, we know this as Operation"}, {"start": "04:04:28", "end": "04:04:34", "text": "Mockingbird, but there was no official name for it. Inside the agency, Frank Wisner, who ran covert operations,"}, {"start": "04:04:34", "end": "04:04:41", "text": "called it his mighty woriter, a massive organ that would play any tune he wanted. It started in the early days of"}, {"start": "04:04:41", "end": "04:04:47", "text": "the Cold War under Allen Dulles. The CIA needed to influence public opinion against the Soviets and major news"}, {"start": "04:04:47", "end": "04:04:54", "text": "organizations were more than happy to help. Publishers, editors, reporters, a fewer patriots who thought they were"}, {"start": "04:04:54", "end": "04:05:00", "text": "serving their country. Some enjoyed playing spy and some journalists had no agenda at all. They just they just like"}, {"start": "04:05:00", "end": "04:05:08", "text": "the money. Do you have any people being paid"}, {"start": "04:05:08", "end": "04:05:15", "text": "by the CIA who are contributing"}, {"start": "04:05:15", "end": "04:05:21", "text": "to a major circulation American journal? We do have people who submit pieces to"}, {"start": "04:05:21", "end": "04:05:26", "text": "other to American journals. More than 400 American journalists had secretly"}, {"start": "04:05:26", "end": "04:05:32", "text": "carried out assignments for the CIA for 25 years. And not small town papers."}, {"start": "04:05:32", "end": "04:05:39", "text": "These were reporters at the New York Times, CBS, Time Magazine, Newsweek, The AP, Reuters, Washington Post, the"}, {"start": "04:05:39", "end": "04:05:46", "text": "biggest names in American media. Some journalists were full CIA employees using journalism as cover. And the"}, {"start": "04:05:46", "end": "04:05:52", "text": "publishers knew. Arthur Hayes Salsberg of the New York Times, William Paley at CBS, they cooperated directly with the"}, {"start": "04:05:52", "end": "04:05:59", "text": "CIA. When the agency needed a story planted, they'd make a call. The story would run. When they needed a story"}, {"start": "04:05:59", "end": "04:06:06", "text": "killed, another call. The story would go away. We extremely proud of the quality, balanced journalism that CBS4 News"}, {"start": "04:06:06", "end": "04:06:12", "text": "produces. But we are concerned about irresponsible one-sided news stories plaging our"}, {"start": "04:06:12", "end": "04:06:18", "text": "country. Plaguing our country. The New York Times gave CIA employees"}, {"start": "04:06:18", "end": "04:06:25", "text": "press credentials. They posed as reporters while conducting intelligence operations."}, {"start": "04:06:25", "end": "04:06:31", "text": "Journalists spied on foreign leaders. They carried money to CIA assets. They provided their hotel rooms for secret"}, {"start": "04:06:31", "end": "04:06:36", "text": "meetings. When the CIA overthrew governments in Iran and Guatemala, the American press"}, {"start": "04:06:36", "end": "04:06:43", "text": "explained why it was necessary. When the agency needed support for the Vietnam War, headlines appeared. The American"}, {"start": "04:06:43", "end": "04:06:48", "text": "people thought they were reading news. They were reading CIA propaganda."}, {"start": "04:06:48", "end": "04:06:53", "text": "The sharing of biased and false news has become all too common on social media."}, {"start": "04:06:53", "end": "04:06:59", "text": "More alarming, some media outlets publish these same fake stories without checking facts first."}, {"start": "04:06:59", "end": "04:07:06", "text": "The sharing of biased and false news has become all too common on social media."}, {"start": "04:07:08", "end": "04:07:13", "text": "repeatedly are true without checking facts first. Unfortunately, some of the"}, {"start": "04:07:13", "end": "04:07:20", "text": "use control exactly what people think and"}, {"start": "04:07:20", "end": "04:07:26", "text": "this is extremely dangerous to our democracy. This is extremely dangerous to our democracy."}, {"start": "04:07:26", "end": "04:07:33", "text": "The church committee exposed this collaboration. Bernstein documented it, but nothing really changed because once"}, {"start": "04:07:33", "end": "04:07:38", "text": "you control the news, you control the narrative. You control what people think. And that power is too valuable to"}, {"start": "04:07:38", "end": "04:07:45", "text": "give up. But even total control of information has limits. To truly control a population, you need to control their"}, {"start": "04:07:45", "end": "04:07:52", "text": "minds directly. And one CIA scientist believed he'd found the way."}, {"start": "04:07:57", "end": "04:08:04", "text": "Controlling the news wasn't enough. The CIA wanted to control minds directly, not through propaganda or manipulation."}, {"start": "04:08:04", "end": "04:08:10", "text": "through chemistry, through torture, through techniques that would break a person's mind so they could rebuild it."}, {"start": "04:08:10", "end": "04:08:17", "text": "The program was called MK Ultra, run by Sydney Gotautle, the CIA's chief chemist. His colleagues called him the"}, {"start": "04:08:17", "end": "04:08:23", "text": "black sorcerer. From 1953 to 1973, Gotautle had unlimited funds and zero"}, {"start": "04:08:23", "end": "04:08:29", "text": "oversight. His mission, develop mind control techniques for the CIA. MK Ultra"}, {"start": "04:08:29", "end": "04:08:36", "text": "wasn't one program. It was 149 sub projects, 80 institutions were involved,"}, {"start": "04:08:36", "end": "04:08:42", "text": "44 colleges and universities, 15 research foundations, 12 hospitals, 185"}, {"start": "04:08:42", "end": "04:08:49", "text": "private researchers. Georgetown University Hospital got $375,000"}, {"start": "04:08:49", "end": "04:08:56", "text": "to run a hospital safe house. The CIA would bring subjects there, dose them with LSD, watch them for days, record"}, {"start": "04:08:56", "end": "04:09:02", "text": "everything. One mental patient was given LSD for 174 consecutive days. His name"}, {"start": "04:09:02", "end": "04:09:10", "text": "was never recorded. What happened to him was never documented. He was just one test subject among thousands."}, {"start": "04:09:10", "end": "04:09:15", "text": "Between the years of 1957 and 1984, I became a pawn in a government scheme"}, {"start": "04:09:15", "end": "04:09:23", "text": "whose ultimate goal was mind control and to create the perfect spy. All through the use of chemicals, radiation, drugs,"}, {"start": "04:09:23", "end": "04:09:29", "text": "hypnosis, electric shock, isolation in tubs of water, sleep deprivation,"}, {"start": "04:09:29", "end": "04:09:34", "text": "brainwashing, verbal, physical, emotional, and sexual abuse."}, {"start": "04:09:34", "end": "04:09:40", "text": "Operation Midnight Climax was an interesting sub project. The CIA set up brothel in San Francisco and New York,"}, {"start": "04:09:40", "end": "04:09:47", "text": "two-way mirrors in every room. Prostitutes on CIA payroll would bring men back, slip LSD into their drinks,"}, {"start": "04:09:47", "end": "04:09:53", "text": "and CIA officers would watch from behind the mirrors. They photographed everything. The men never knew they'd"}, {"start": "04:09:53", "end": "04:09:59", "text": "been drugged. They went home to their families thinking they'd lost their minds. Dr. Euan Cameron ran experiments"}, {"start": "04:09:59", "end": "04:10:04", "text": "at Allen Memorial Institute in Montreal. He called it depatterning, erasing minds"}, {"start": "04:10:04", "end": "04:10:11", "text": "through torture. Patients were put in drug-induced comas for weeks, given electric shock at 30 times normal"}, {"start": "04:10:11", "end": "04:10:16", "text": "intensity, and forced to listen to recorded messages for 16 hours a day."}, {"start": "04:10:16", "end": "04:10:23", "text": "Some victims forgot their families. They forgot their names. Their entire lives were erased."}, {"start": "04:10:23", "end": "04:10:28", "text": "I was exploited unwittingly for nearly three decades of my life. And the only"}, {"start": "04:10:28", "end": "04:10:33", "text": "explanations given to me were that quote, \"The end justifies the means.\""}, {"start": "04:10:33", "end": "04:10:40", "text": "and quote, \"I was serving my country in their bold effort to fight communism.\" I can only summarize my circumstances by"}, {"start": "04:10:40", "end": "04:10:47", "text": "saying they took an already abused 7-year-old child and compounded my suffering beyond belief. The saddest"}, {"start": "04:10:47", "end": "04:10:52", "text": "part is I know for a fact that I was not alone. There were countless other"}, {"start": "04:10:52", "end": "04:10:58", "text": "children in my same situation and there was no one to help us. I know for a fact"}, {"start": "04:10:58", "end": "04:11:01", "text": "that I was not alone."}, {"start": "04:11:03", "end": "04:11:09", "text": "Then there was Frank Olsen, a scientist working in MK Ultra. He expressed ethical concerns about the CIA's"}, {"start": "04:11:09", "end": "04:11:16", "text": "methods. He told a supervisor he wanted to resign. A few days later, Gotley's team slipped LSD into Olsson's drink at"}, {"start": "04:11:16", "end": "04:11:23", "text": "a CIA retreat. On November 28th, 1953, 9 days after being dosed, Olsen went"}, {"start": "04:11:23", "end": "04:11:31", "text": "through a 10th floor hotel window. The CIA said he jumped. Suicide. Case closed. For 20 years, Gotley ran MK"}, {"start": "04:11:31", "end": "04:11:37", "text": "Ultra with very little oversight and a tremendous amount of power. But now, Congress was asking questions. If MK"}, {"start": "04:11:37", "end": "04:11:45", "text": "Ultra got exposed, it would be a huge problem. So, Sydney Gotautle came up with a solution. He ordered all MK Ultra"}, {"start": "04:11:45", "end": "04:11:50", "text": "records destroyed. Thousands of documents, 20 years of experiments into"}, {"start": "04:11:50", "end": "04:11:56", "text": "the fire. Well, most of them anyway."}, {"start": "04:11:59", "end": "04:12:05", "text": "This is usually the part of the story where I debunk whatever myth or legend we've explored today. Except everything"}, {"start": "04:12:05", "end": "04:12:10", "text": "in this episode is true. Sorry if it wasn't super fun, but I think these"}, {"start": "04:12:10", "end": "04:12:15", "text": "episodes are important to do from time to time. And this Family Jewels episode"}, {"start": "04:12:15", "end": "04:12:23", "text": "is just one in a series. So before you ask, yes, I am uncomfortable doing this."}, {"start": "04:12:23", "end": "04:12:32", "text": "Are the most problematic? Uh most problematic for me are probably this the um the CIA ones. I the one I did that"}, {"start": "04:12:32", "end": "04:12:38", "text": "ended with the Agent Orange kind of expose was a kind of a dangerous one. I it was the dark history of DARPA and all"}, {"start": "04:12:38", "end": "04:12:45", "text": "the bad stuff that DARPA's done since uh since its founding. It's done some horrible horrible horrible stuff. And"}, {"start": "04:12:45", "end": "04:12:50", "text": "that was an episode I was afraid to release. There's been a couple of those. You know MK Ultra is kind of afraid to"}, {"start": "04:12:50", "end": "04:12:56", "text": "cuz I name names. All of these CIA operations deserve their own episode, and I've covered some"}, {"start": "04:12:56", "end": "04:13:02", "text": "of them if you want more detail. Links are below, and there's plenty more to cover, but there's one I stay away from."}, {"start": "04:13:02", "end": "04:13:08", "text": "Operation Mockingbird. Mockingbird exposed how tight the media is with the intelligence community. I haven't"}, {"start": "04:13:08", "end": "04:13:15", "text": "covered this because it's clearly still going on. Twitter, Facebook, and other social media platforms have already been"}, {"start": "04:13:15", "end": "04:13:23", "text": "exposed as either working with or being coerced by the FBI and other government agencies. This is fact."}, {"start": "04:13:23", "end": "04:13:30", "text": "And if you follow TV news personalities closely, you'll see that a few are still on the CIA's payroll. I know their"}, {"start": "04:13:30", "end": "04:13:35", "text": "names, but I won't say them here. You'll know who I mean if you pay attention."}, {"start": "04:13:35", "end": "04:13:41", "text": "Now, Chaos really did index 300,000 Americans. That's also a fact. Fred Hampton was drugged by the FBI and"}, {"start": "04:13:41", "end": "04:13:49", "text": "murdered in his bed by local police, coordinated by the FBI. That's a fact. Frank Olsen didn't jump from that hotel"}, {"start": "04:13:49", "end": "04:13:57", "text": "window. He had blunt force trauma to his head before he fell. No cuts from window glass. His family received $750,000"}, {"start": "04:13:57", "end": "04:14:02", "text": "in hush money. The CIA admitted drugging him with LSD 9 days before his death,"}, {"start": "04:14:02", "end": "04:14:09", "text": "but that's about it. There's a link below to the full story. The Family Jewels documents expose a lot of CIA"}, {"start": "04:14:09", "end": "04:14:16", "text": "secrets, but some mysteries are still unexplained. Item one in the Family Jewels is completely redacted. The whole"}, {"start": "04:14:16", "end": "04:14:21", "text": "thing is blacked out. And after everything else they revealed, assassinations, mind control,"}, {"start": "04:14:21", "end": "04:14:28", "text": "surveillance, what could be worse? What could be in there? I'm not sure we'll ever find out."}, {"start": "04:14:28", "end": "04:14:32", "text": "I'm not sure we even want to know."}, {"start": "04:14:34", "end": "04:14:41", "text": "Sydney Gotley destroyed most MK Ultra records in 1973. We only know what survived because of budget files. How"}, {"start": "04:14:41", "end": "04:14:49", "text": "many subjects? How many people died? What techniques actually worked? We'll never know. The CIA made sure of that."}, {"start": "04:14:49", "end": "04:14:56", "text": "And by the way, Gotle was never held accountable for any of it. Links below to more. And programs like these don't"}, {"start": "04:14:56", "end": "04:15:02", "text": "disappear. They evolve. They even get legalized. After 9/11, Congress passed"}, {"start": "04:15:02", "end": "04:15:07", "text": "the Patriot Act. Suddenly, what got the CIA in trouble in the 1970s became"}, {"start": "04:15:07", "end": "04:15:15", "text": "standard procedure. Mass surveillance legal. Collecting data on Americans without warrants legal with a FISA court"}, {"start": "04:15:15", "end": "04:15:22", "text": "rubber stamp. Those secret courts approve 99.97% of government surveillance requests."}, {"start": "04:15:22", "end": "04:15:28", "text": "That's not oversight. That's theater. Both parties voted for it. Both parties"}, {"start": "04:15:28", "end": "04:15:35", "text": "renewed it. Republicans championed it under Bush. Democrats expanded it under Obama. Trump reauthorized it. Biden"}, {"start": "04:15:35", "end": "04:15:42", "text": "extended it again. Every few years they pretend to debate it. Then they quietly renew it because once government gets a"}, {"start": "04:15:42", "end": "04:15:50", "text": "power, it never gives it back. What took Operation Chaos years to collect on 300,000 Americans, the NSA now collects"}, {"start": "04:15:50", "end": "04:15:55", "text": "on everyone in minutes. Phone records, email metadata, internet searches,"}, {"start": "04:15:55", "end": "04:16:01", "text": "financial transactions. Does the NSA collect any type of data at"}, {"start": "04:16:01", "end": "04:16:06", "text": "all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?"}, {"start": "04:16:06", "end": "04:16:12", "text": "No, sir. Verizon offers its telephone customers what's called the Share"}, {"start": "04:16:12", "end": "04:16:18", "text": "Everything Plan. Well, the irony of that did not escape a lot of folks today when it was revealed that Verizon has been"}, {"start": "04:16:18", "end": "04:16:24", "text": "sharing the phone records of millions with US intelligence. And sources tell"}, {"start": "04:16:24", "end": "04:16:29", "text": "us this evening that surveillance extended to the internet as well. The"}, {"start": "04:16:29", "end": "04:16:34", "text": "government is spying on even more of our online activities than anyone imagined."}, {"start": "04:16:34", "end": "04:16:40", "text": "New leaks describe a program allowing the government to snoop into a wide range of activity most Americans believe"}, {"start": "04:16:40", "end": "04:16:47", "text": "should be protected. The National Security Agency is operating a massive database system that allows analysts to"}, {"start": "04:16:47", "end": "04:16:52", "text": "scour individuals emails, Facebook chats, and internet browsing histories"}, {"start": "04:16:52", "end": "04:16:59", "text": "at will. Exposing the CIA's family jewels should have been a cautionary tale, a warning."}, {"start": "04:16:59", "end": "04:17:05", "text": "Instead, the intelligence community turned this into a series of tests. They tested the American people to see how"}, {"start": "04:17:05", "end": "04:17:11", "text": "many laws they would be allowed to break. They tested us to see what freedoms we would surrender. They tested"}, {"start": "04:17:11", "end": "04:17:18", "text": "us to see if we would hold anyone accountable. The CIA, FBI, and our entire"}, {"start": "04:17:18", "end": "04:17:23", "text": "intelligence apparatus has been testing us for 50 years. And for 50 years, we"}, {"start": "04:17:23", "end": "04:17:30", "text": "the people have failed every test. So, what can we do? Probably nothing. The"}, {"start": "04:17:30", "end": "04:17:39", "text": "last person to openly say the CIA needed an overhaul was John F. Kennedy. How'd that work out? President Kennedy died at"}, {"start": "04:17:39", "end": "04:17:44", "text": "100 p.m. Central Standard Time."}, {"start": "04:17:44", "end": "04:17:49", "text": "Thank you so much for hanging out with me today. My name is AJ. There's Hecklefish. Hi there. Hello. You're quiet today."}, {"start": "04:17:49", "end": "04:17:55", "text": "Well, I wanted to see if you can carry things on your own for once. Oh, yeah. How'd I do? Solid C plus."}, {"start": "04:17:55", "end": "04:18:01", "text": "High praise. This has been the Y Files. Get fun or learn anything. Do us a favor. Hit like, subscribe, comment,"}, {"start": "04:18:01", "end": "04:18:08", "text": "share. That stuff allegedly still helps the channel, but I'm not really sure anymore. Like most topics we cover on"}, {"start": "04:18:08", "end": "04:18:15", "text": "the channel, everyone in today's compilation was recommended by somebody in the audience. So, if there's a story you'd like to see or have me do a deep"}, {"start": "04:18:15", "end": "04:18:21", "text": "dive on, go to the yfiles.com/tips, or just send us an email, catch us on Discord. We're always looking for new"}, {"start": "04:18:21", "end": "04:18:27", "text": "subjects. Now, remember, the Yfiles is also a podcast, so you can take us on the road. And twice a week, I post deep"}, {"start": "04:18:27", "end": "04:18:32", "text": "dives into the stories we cover here on the channel. And I also post episodes that wouldn't be allowed on the channel,"}, {"start": "04:18:32", "end": "04:18:40", "text": "like a couple of today's. And those are going to be labeled unredacted. Redacted. Unredacted. I I don't know how"}, {"start": "04:18:40", "end": "04:18:46", "text": "it works. Um the podcast has got a really creative name. It's called the Y Files Operation Podcast. It's available"}, {"start": "04:18:46", "end": "04:18:52", "text": "everywhere you get your podcast. And if you are listening right now, click the like or thumbs up or follow or whatever"}, {"start": "04:18:52", "end": "04:18:58", "text": "the buttons are for the podcast. That actually does help a lot. Now, if you need more wildfires in your life, check"}, {"start": "04:18:58", "end": "04:19:04", "text": "out our Discord. There are thousands of people on there 24/7. They're into the same weird stuff we are here. They talk"}, {"start": "04:19:04", "end": "04:19:10", "text": "about all these topics and and and so many more. It's a great community. It's a lot of fun and it's for you to join."}, {"start": "04:19:10", "end": "04:19:16", "text": "Speaking of 24/7, also check out our 247 stream on the Wii Files backstage."}, {"start": "04:19:16", "end": "04:19:22", "text": "There's always a link for that below. And over there, we run episodes backtoback with some fun, unique content"}, {"start": "04:19:22", "end": "04:19:29", "text": "in between. But, you know, come for the episodes, but stay for the live chat. There's a"}, {"start": "04:19:29", "end": "04:19:35", "text": "community over there that is very interesting and a lot of fun. If you want to know what's going on with Y"}, {"start": "04:19:35", "end": "04:19:40", "text": "Files at any given time, check out our production calendar. I paused there because I'm like, when was the last time"}, {"start": "04:19:40", "end": "04:19:46", "text": "we updated our production calendar? I promise we're going to we're going to do better with that. It's at the wfiles.com/cow"}, {"start": "04:19:46", "end": "04:19:54", "text": "and there we allegedly post our episode schedule, upcoming podcast, live streams, AMAs, meetups, all that stuff."}, {"start": "04:19:54", "end": "04:20:00", "text": "Special thanks to our patron who made this channel possible and made this compilation happen. Every episode you"}, {"start": "04:20:00", "end": "04:20:06", "text": "saw today was dedicated and made possible by our Patreon members. I couldn't do this without your support."}, {"start": "04:20:06", "end": "04:20:12", "text": "And if you'd like to support the channel, keep us going, join this amazing community. For as little as three bucks a month, you get access to"}, {"start": "04:20:12", "end": "04:20:19", "text": "perks like episodes early with no commercials, exclusive merch, plus at least two private live streams every"}, {"start": "04:20:19", "end": "04:20:26", "text": "week, and those are a lot of fun. It's not just me talking at a screen. You get to meet everybody in the Wii Files team."}, {"start": "04:20:26", "end": "04:20:31", "text": "So, Jen, Victoria, Gino, everybody's there. You can talk to anyone you want."}, {"start": "04:20:31", "end": "04:20:37", "text": "And you can also turn your camera on, jump up on stage, ask a question if you want to talk about a topic in a little"}, {"start": "04:20:37", "end": "04:20:43", "text": "more detail or recommend a topic, tell a joke, or just say hi. I think it's the best perk there is. Another great way to"}, {"start": "04:20:43", "end": "04:20:49", "text": "support the channel is grab something from the Wi-Fi store. Grab a t-shirt or one of these fable coffee mugs. You can"}, {"start": "04:20:49", "end": "04:20:54", "text": "stick your fist in the C and chop it all over you. Oh, grab a hoodie. I suck my"}, {"start": "04:20:54", "end": "04:21:00", "text": "squeezy squeezy animal. No, wait, wait, wait. I got to talk about my stuff with my face on it. Did I talk about the"}, {"start": "04:21:00", "end": "04:21:07", "text": "squeaky animal fish talking to fish toy? But if you're going to buy merch, make sure you become a member on YouTube. I"}, {"start": "04:21:07", "end": "04:21:13", "text": "know, I know another membership, but hear me out. It's three bucks a month and YouTube members get 10% off"}, {"start": "04:21:13", "end": "04:21:19", "text": "everything in the Wii File store forever. So, if you're going to spend $40 on t-shirts or coffee mugs, join on"}, {"start": "04:21:19", "end": "04:21:25", "text": "YouTube, get the code, and it pays for itself. And if you want to cancel, just cancel. The membership is not there to"}, {"start": "04:21:25", "end": "04:21:32", "text": "make any money. It's there to save you money. But the money from YouTube memberships goes to my team. All of it."}, {"start": "04:21:32", "end": "04:21:38", "text": "I don't touch any of that. So, it's a great way to save a few bucks and keep us going. Yeah. Keep that secret under your tin"}, {"start": "04:21:38", "end": "04:21:44", "text": "foil hat. Huh? Those are the plugs. Did I get them all? It felt like I was talking for a while."}, {"start": "04:21:44", "end": "04:21:51", "text": "It doesn't matter. We're going to let it fly. All the mistakes, everything. We're just going to let it fly. I got to get"}, {"start": "04:21:51", "end": "04:21:56", "text": "out of here. Um, until next time, be safe, be kind, and know that you are"}, {"start": "04:21:56", "end": "04:21:59", "text": "appreciated."}, {"start": "04:22:09", "end": "04:22:18", "text": "Oh yeah, I played Philippia in Area 51. A secret"}, {"start": "04:22:18", "end": "04:22:23", "text": "code inside the Bible said I would."}, {"start": "04:22:23", "end": "04:22:30", "text": "I love my UFOs and paranormal fun as well as music. So I'm singing the like I"}, {"start": "04:22:30", "end": "04:22:35", "text": "should then another conspiracy theory becomes"}, {"start": "04:22:35", "end": "04:22:40", "text": "the truth my friends and it never ends."}, {"start": "04:22:40", "end": "04:22:44", "text": "No it never ends."}, {"start": "04:22:51", "end": "04:22:58", "text": "I feel the crap guy. I got stuck inside Mel's home with MK out. I feel only two"}, {"start": "04:22:58", "end": "04:23:03", "text": "unaware. Did Stanley Cubrick fake the moon"}, {"start": "04:23:03", "end": "04:23:10", "text": "landing alone on a film set of shadow people there?"}, {"start": "04:23:10", "end": "04:23:18", "text": "The well just fought the smiling man, I'm told, and his name was cold. But I"}, {"start": "04:23:18", "end": "04:23:26", "text": "can't breathe. I'm catch up with the fish on Thursday night"}, {"start": "04:23:26", "end": "04:23:31", "text": "and all through the night."}, {"start": "04:23:32", "end": "04:23:37", "text": "All I ever wanted was to be the truth. to the world"}, {"start": "04:23:37", "end": "04:23:41", "text": "through the night."}, {"start": "04:23:57", "end": "04:24:03", "text": "The math man silence and the solar storm still come to a gather the secret city"}, {"start": "04:24:03", "end": "04:24:10", "text": "underground. Mysterious number stations, planet circle to"}, {"start": "04:24:10", "end": "04:24:16", "text": "project star gate and what the dark watchers found"}, {"start": "04:24:16", "end": "04:24:23", "text": "in a simulation. Don't you worry though. The black nights at a light"}, {"start": "04:24:23", "end": "04:24:30", "text": "so I can't believe I'm dancing with the fish and your fish on Thursday nights"}, {"start": "04:24:30", "end": "04:24:37", "text": "when they chase you and me all through the night."}, {"start": "04:24:38", "end": "04:24:46", "text": "All I ever wanted was to hear the truth all through the night."}, {"start": "04:24:48", "end": "04:24:55", "text": "on Thursday. That's when they all"}, {"start": "04:24:58", "end": "04:25:02", "text": "wanted to hear the truth."}, {"start": "04:25:17", "end": "04:25:24", "text": "loves to dance. Girl loves to dance on the dance floor"}, {"start": "04:25:24", "end": "04:25:33", "text": "because she is a camel. Camels love to dance when the feeling is right."}]

[{"end": "00:00:06", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "This episode of the W Files is brought"}, {"end": "00:00:06", "start": "00:00:02", "text": "to you by Factor."}, {"end": "00:00:24", "start": "00:00:19", "text": "Staff Sergeant Ryan Martinez was the"}, {"end": "00:00:27", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "boast sergeant on duty at Offit AFB, a"}, {"end": "00:00:29", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "few miles south of Omaha, Nebraska. He"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:27", "text": "sipped cold coffee, updated the blott,"}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:29", "text": "and checked in with patrols. Reports"}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "confirmed the monitors. RC135 sitting"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "dark in the flight line, guards walking"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "posts and perimeter fences quiet. At"}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "0400, this was routine. Martinez was"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "fighting a yawn when the claxon fired"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "up."}, {"end": "00:00:51", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "Then an announcement. Alarm red."}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "Perimeter breach. Martinez checked the"}, {"end": "00:00:55", "start": "00:00:51", "text": "cameras. A wave of shadows was stumbling"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "across the field toward thousands of"}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:55", "text": "onbase personnel and their families."}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "Then he saw them. The shadows were"}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "people, or at least they used to be. The"}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "loudspeaker barked commands to halt. The"}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:05", "text": "horde kept coming. Flares went up."}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:07", "text": "Warning shots were fired. The horde kept"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "coming. Then came the command Martinez"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "never expected to hear. Weapons free."}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "Gunfire erupted. Thousands of rounds"}, {"end": "00:01:23", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "creating a wall of sound and smoke and"}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "steel. Bodies fell. The entire base held"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:23", "text": "its breath."}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "A few seconds later, the bodies rose"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "again, and the horde kept coming."}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "Martinez tore through a cabinet,"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "searching for the protocols no one took"}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "seriously, remembering the training no"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "one thought necessary. Every soldier at"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:38", "text": "Offit was prepared for this exact"}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "scenario, outlined in a military"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "document most Americans had never heard"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:43", "text": "of. Con plan 888, the Pentagon's guide"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "for surviving a zombie apocalypse. And"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "tonight the plan goes operational."}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "I don't I don't know. I will find out."}, {"end": "00:02:07", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "There you are. I just got a call from my"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "wife saying that the washing machine is"}, {"end": "00:02:11", "start": "00:02:07", "text": "full of salad bar stuff. Do you know"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "anything about that?"}, {"end": "00:02:14", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "Ah, define. No."}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "What did you do?"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "All right, fine. My juice are fried"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "halfway through a pineapple. box, smoke,"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "the whole nine yards. Uh, so I"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "improvised."}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "Improvised with my washer."}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "It spins. You throw in some kale, hit"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "delicate cycle, and boom, juice."}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "You just ruined a brand new washing"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "machine."}, {"end": "00:02:37", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "Oh, it's fine. Uh, but since I have you,"}, {"end": "00:02:39", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "uh, could you stop by Whole Foods and"}, {"end": "00:02:41", "start": "00:02:37", "text": "pick me up some kelp granules?"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:39", "text": "What is this about?"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:41", "text": "Now that I'm back as a full-time star,"}, {"end": "00:02:46", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "I'm on a juice cleanse. Got to drop a"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "few ounces around the gills there. The"}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:46", "text": "camera adds 10 lbs, human. And when"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "you're three inches long, that's fatal."}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "Nobody's thinking about that."}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "Juice cleanses are how stars do it."}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "Sinatra did it. Bowie did it. Carrot Top"}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "probably."}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:59", "text": "You know, you should just try Factor."}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "They just introduced their healthiest"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "menu so far."}, {"end": "00:03:06", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "Oh, did you just spin me into today's"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "sponsor?"}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:06", "text": "You betcha. Factor is a subscription"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "meal service that delivers pre-prepared"}, {"end": "00:03:15", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "meals right to your door. They're fresh,"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "never frozen, and ready to heat and eat"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "in 2 minutes. And they've just doubled"}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "their menu to 80 plus weekly options."}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "That means three times more new chef"}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "crafted meals, two times more premium"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "seafood options, and two times more high"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "protein favorites. Factor has also"}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "expanded their global cuisines with over"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "30 Mediterranean and Asian inspired"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "meals and has introduced a new meal"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "customization option, letting you swap"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "proteins at no extra cost. factors. High"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "protein and calorie smart options"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "support GLP-1 diets and help you stay on"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "track with wellness and weight loss"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "goals. They've added gluten-free"}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "choices, and every meal is made without"}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "refined sugars or lowquality seed oils,"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "keeping you away from ultrarocessed"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "foods. I actually eat Factor every day"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "at the studio. It's my go-to dinner"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "solution for a clean, healthy meal,"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "fueling me for a long night of writing."}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "Head to factor75.com"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "or click the link below and use code the"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "Y files FB50 to get 50% off plus free"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "breakfast for one year. That's code the"}, {"end": "00:04:18", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "Y files FB50 to get 50% off plus free"}, {"end": "00:04:20", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "breakfast for one whole year."}, {"end": "00:04:23", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "50% off plus free breakfast for 1 year"}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:20", "text": "when I use code 50 to Y files."}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:23", "text": "You got it."}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "I'll drop 3 O in no time. Oh, human,"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "don't open a dryer. My cucumber cleanse"}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "is still in progress."}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "Please tell me a cucumber cleanse is"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "just a salad. Yeah, it depends how you"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "toss it."}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "The plan that Staff Sergeant Martinez"}, {"end": "00:04:53", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "pulled from that cabinet is real. I have"}, {"end": "00:04:55", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "a copy of it. You can download it and"}, {"end": "00:04:57", "start": "00:04:53", "text": "read it for yourself. In 2009, United"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:55", "text": "States Strategic Command released Con"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:57", "text": "Plan 8888-11,"}, {"end": "00:05:05", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "Counter Zombie Dominance Operations. 31"}, {"end": "00:05:08", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "pages of detailed military strategy for"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:05", "text": "surviving a zombie apocalypse. Complete"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:08", "text": "with operational phases, threat"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "assessments, and rules of engagement."}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, wait,"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "wait, wait, wait, wait. This is a real"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "thing? Army vers zombies?"}, {"end": "00:05:19", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "Yep."}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "Okay, I'm terrified right now. Hold me."}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:19", "text": "No. The document opens with standard"}, {"end": "00:05:25", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "Pentagon formatting. Official"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "letterhead, proper classification"}, {"end": "00:05:29", "start": "00:05:25", "text": "stamps. Everything looks mundane until"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "you get to the documents. Purpose"}, {"end": "00:05:35", "start": "00:05:29", "text": "statement."}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "US Stratcom Con Plan 888. Purpose: To"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:35", "text": "undertake military operations to"}, {"end": "00:05:41", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "preserve nonzombie humans from the"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "threats posed by a zombie horde. Because"}, {"end": "00:05:46", "start": "00:05:41", "text": "zombies pose a threat to all non-zombie"}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "human life, hereafter referred to as"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:46", "text": "humans, US Stratcom will be prepared to"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "preserve the sanctity of human life. The"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "document was declassified in 2011 thanks"}, {"end": "00:05:57", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "to a foyer request. Now that's a quick"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "turnaround from classified the public. A"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:05:57", "text": "section of comp plan 8888 reveals why."}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "US stratcom con plan 8888 security"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "instructions. This document is"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "unclassified to ensure maximum utility"}, {"end": "00:06:13", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "during times of crisis. Classified"}, {"end": "00:06:15", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "capabilities used to counter zombies"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:13", "text": "will be addressed in appropriate orders"}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "and crisis plan will be adapted to"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "current operational conditions. Con plan"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "8888 assumes a complete breakdown of"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "society. It lays out five distinct"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "operational phases from monitoring"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "through the restoration of civil"}, {"end": "00:06:31", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "authority."}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "Phase zero is shape the environment."}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:31", "text": "Stratcom watches for non-state actors"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "with chemical and biological WMDs. They"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "monitor disease vectors, outbreaks, and"}, {"end": "00:06:43", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "epidemics. Phase one is deter. This"}, {"end": "00:06:45", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "prevents enemies from creating zombies"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:43", "text": "and nuclear armed countries get notified"}, {"end": "00:06:51", "start": "00:06:45", "text": "that counter zombie tactics aren't a"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "preparation for war. Phase two is seize"}, {"end": "00:06:54", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "the initiative. Stratcom provides"}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "security assistance to local"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:54", "text": "authorities. Quarantine zones get"}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "created and enforced. Civilian areas"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "stay protected until they're overrun."}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "Then conplan 8888 enters phase three."}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "Dominate, respond, and counter. During"}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "phase three, the US military locks down"}, {"end": "00:07:13", "start": "00:07:09", "text": "and retreats to fortified positions for"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "at least 40 days."}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "US Stratcom Conplan 8888, phase three."}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "Upon receipt of a US Stratcom order, all"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "forces will begin preparations to"}, {"end": "00:07:26", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "conduct combat operations against zombie"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "threats. US Stratcom will shelter all"}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:26", "text": "personnel in place for at least 40 days."}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "After that, phases four and five focus"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "on stabilizing and restoring government."}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "Reconnaissance teams deploy to assess"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "the zombie threat."}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "US Stratcom con plan 8888 phase 4 and"}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "five. No earlier than 40 days after the"}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "initiation of phase 3 operations, US"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "Stratcom forces will initiate local"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "reconnaissance ops to determine the"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "severity of the remaining zombie threat."}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "Assess the physical and epidemiological"}, {"end": "00:08:01", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "security of the local environment and"}, {"end": "00:08:04", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "survey the status of basic services,"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:01", "text": "water, power, sewage, infrastructure,"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:04", "text": "and communications. If the threat is"}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "neutralized, rebuilding begins. But as"}, {"end": "00:08:15", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "long as zombies exist, the military"}, {"end": "00:08:17", "start": "00:08:11", "text": "stays locked down. Conplan 8888 outlines"}, {"end": "00:08:19", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "these phases step by step. But notice"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:17", "text": "what's missing during the military"}, {"end": "00:08:23", "start": "00:08:19", "text": "lockdown. Civilian protection. The"}, {"end": "00:08:25", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "document says that during the first"}, {"end": "00:08:28", "start": "00:08:23", "text": "critical weeks, local law enforcement"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:25", "text": "handles zombie attacks until martial law"}, {"end": "00:08:33", "start": "00:08:28", "text": "is declared. After that, no civilian"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "assistance, no rescue missions, no"}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:33", "text": "exceptions. The plan assumes most"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "government officials die within 24"}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "hours. Cities become uninhabitable."}, {"end": "00:08:45", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "Infrastructure collapses completely."}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "Compan 888 ensures military command and"}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "control continues. Now, that's great if"}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "you're inside a fortified facility, but"}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "for anyone outside a military fence, con"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "plan 888 makes it clear you're on your"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:55", "text": "own."}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "To survive the collapse of society, you"}, {"end": "00:09:06", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "need to understand the threat. The"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "military knows where zombie apocalypses"}, {"end": "00:09:10", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "could start and what we'll face beyond"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "the safety of fortified installations."}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:10", "text": "US Stratcom, con plan 888. Section 4,"}, {"end": "00:09:19", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "subsection 5. Conditions for"}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "implementation part A. Zombies have the"}, {"end": "00:09:23", "start": "00:09:19", "text": "potential to seriously undermine"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:21", "text": "national security and our way of life."}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:23", "text": "While the US currently enjoys several"}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "asymmetric advantages and against zombie"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "infections originating in the Eurasian"}, {"end": "00:09:34", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "landmass, these advantages can easily be"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "negated by air and sea traffic that"}, {"end": "00:09:38", "start": "00:09:34", "text": "could transport the source of a zombie"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "infection to North and South America."}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:38", "text": "But Conplan 8888 is clear. Zombie"}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "threats come from anywhere and affect"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "anyone. The Pentagon organized zombies"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "into distinct categories. According to"}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "comp plan 8888, the most likely threat"}, {"end": "00:09:55", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "comes from pathogenic zombies created"}, {"end": "00:09:57", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "when viruses or bacteria infect humans."}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:55", "text": "And the Pentagon isn't guessing."}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:57", "text": "Existing diseases could mutate and"}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "trigger real outbreaks. Take rabies. The"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "virus attacks the central nervous"}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "system, creating aggression and"}, {"end": "00:10:10", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "violence. Infected animals foam at the"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "mouth and attack anything that moves."}, {"end": "00:10:14", "start": "00:10:10", "text": "That foam carries the rabies virus. One"}, {"end": "00:10:17", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "bite from a rabid animal means almost"}, {"end": "00:10:19", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "certain death. Movies like 28 Days Later"}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:17", "text": "and World War Z show virus-based"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "zombies. Animals also become zombies"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "through pron diseases. A pron is a"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "misfolded protein that destroys brains"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "and nervous systems. Chronic wasting"}, {"end": "00:10:34", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "disease makes deer and elk lose their"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "natural fear. They stumble around like"}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "zombies, easy prey for predators."}, {"end": "00:10:42", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "Mountain lions actually target infected"}, {"end": "00:10:44", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "deer, but eating these animals is risky."}, {"end": "00:10:46", "start": "00:10:42", "text": "Eat a pron diseased brain and you become"}, {"end": "00:10:49", "start": "00:10:44", "text": "infected. Mad cow disease is a pron"}, {"end": "00:10:51", "start": "00:10:46", "text": "disease. Humans who eat infected beef"}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:49", "text": "develop kudzfeld yakob disease. The"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:51", "text": "symptoms are rapid mental deterioration,"}, {"end": "00:10:59", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "loss of coordination, and aggressive"}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "behavior. Sounds a lot like zombies."}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:10:59", "text": "Kuru affects cannibalistic tribes in"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "Papa Nagina. They eat the brains of dead"}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "relatives as a funeral ritual."}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "Stop. Stop. Stop. Why did they uh h How"}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "did What? Why?"}, {"end": "00:11:13", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "Eating the brain helps the spirit reach"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "the afterlife."}, {"end": "00:11:19", "start": "00:11:13", "text": "So, uh how was grandma's funeral? A"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "little chewy."}, {"end": "00:11:22", "start": "00:11:19", "text": "I don't feel so good."}, {"end": "00:11:24", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "Yeah, technically it's against the law"}, {"end": "00:11:25", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "now, but rumors are that some tribes"}, {"end": "00:11:29", "start": "00:11:24", "text": "still do this privately."}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "Keep my wife's brain out your mouth."}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:29", "text": "Keep my wife's brain out your mouth."}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "And that's how it continues. Eating an"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "infected brain spreads kuru. Victims"}, {"end": "00:11:43", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "experience severe mood changes. They"}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "become violent and unpredictable"}, {"end": "00:11:45", "start": "00:11:43", "text": "like ex-wives."}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "Like zombies."}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:45", "text": "Ah, that makes more sense."}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "The Zombie Land movies feature pron"}, {"end": "00:11:54", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "zombies. And beyond bacteria, viruses,"}, {"end": "00:11:55", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "and prons, parasites can create zombies."}, {"end": "00:11:58", "start": "00:11:54", "text": "These are called symbient induced"}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:55", "text": "zombies. What makes these parasites so"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:58", "text": "dangerous is you don't know your caring"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "one."}, {"end": "00:12:17", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "Conplan 8888 says pathogenic zombies are"}, {"end": "00:12:19", "start": "00:12:15", "text": "most common and that makes sense."}, {"end": "00:12:21", "start": "00:12:17", "text": "Diseases affect every animal on Earth"}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:19", "text": "and sometimes those diseases jump to"}, {"end": "00:12:27", "start": "00:12:21", "text": "humans through zuonosis. AIDS, SARS,"}, {"end": "00:12:30", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "H1N1, Ebola, plague, anthrax, Lyme"}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:27", "text": "disease, malaria. Dozens of deadly"}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:30", "text": "diseases jump from animals to humans."}, {"end": "00:12:39", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "And most diseases kill their host, but"}, {"end": "00:12:41", "start": "00:12:34", "text": "not all. Conplan 8888 calls these sis"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:39", "text": "symbient induced zombies. Instead of"}, {"end": "00:12:46", "start": "00:12:41", "text": "killing you, the parasite uses you, at"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "least for a while. In Costa Rica's"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:46", "text": "rainforests, the jewel wasp attacks"}, {"end": "00:12:53", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "cockroaches. The wasp injects venom"}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "directly into the roach's brain. The"}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:53", "text": "roach becomes docel and compliant."}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "Uh, you said this was the Cosby wasp."}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "The jewel wasp. No, I don't remember"}, {"end": "00:13:03", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "Jewel doing anything this inappropriate."}, {"end": "00:13:05", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "The jewel wasp grabs the roach by its"}, {"end": "00:13:08", "start": "00:13:03", "text": "antenna and leads it to a burrow like"}, {"end": "00:13:11", "start": "00:13:05", "text": "walking a dog. The roach doesn't flee."}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:08", "text": "It follows. Then the wasp lays an egg"}, {"end": "00:13:16", "start": "00:13:11", "text": "inside the roach and leaves. The roach"}, {"end": "00:13:18", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "stays put, waiting peacefully. When the"}, {"end": "00:13:21", "start": "00:13:16", "text": "larvae hatches, it eats the cockroach"}, {"end": "00:13:23", "start": "00:13:18", "text": "alive from the inside out. That's mind"}, {"end": "00:13:25", "start": "00:13:21", "text": "control. Conplan 8888 calls it"}, {"end": "00:13:27", "start": "00:13:23", "text": "zombification. And if you played the"}, {"end": "00:13:30", "start": "00:13:25", "text": "Dead Rising games, those zombies are"}, {"end": "00:13:32", "start": "00:13:27", "text": "created by these parasitic wasps. Then"}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:30", "text": "there's ofiocortisps."}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:32", "text": "This fungus turns ants into zombie ants."}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "Infected ants abandon their colonies and"}, {"end": "00:13:41", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "climb high branches. They bite down on"}, {"end": "00:13:43", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "leaves with a death grip. The fungus"}, {"end": "00:13:45", "start": "00:13:41", "text": "then consumes the ants body and burst"}, {"end": "00:13:47", "start": "00:13:43", "text": "from its head, raining spores on the"}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:45", "text": "colony below. The ant's final act"}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:47", "text": "spreads infection and creates more"}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "zombies. The Last of Us games and HBO"}, {"end": "00:13:56", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "series feature the Cortiseps fungus"}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:54", "text": "jumping to humans. African sleeping"}, {"end": "00:14:00", "start": "00:13:56", "text": "sickness affects thousands of people"}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "every year. It's transmitted by tit"}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:14:00", "text": "flies. Victims become confused,"}, {"end": "00:14:07", "start": "00:14:03", "text": "disoriented, and violent"}, {"end": "00:14:09", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "like zombies."}, {"end": "00:14:11", "start": "00:14:07", "text": "Those parasites kill the host"}, {"end": "00:14:14", "start": "00:14:09", "text": "eventually, but some keep the host alive"}, {"end": "00:14:16", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "forever. The aanthosphylin worm starts"}, {"end": "00:14:18", "start": "00:14:14", "text": "by infecting insects that birds like to"}, {"end": "00:14:20", "start": "00:14:16", "text": "eat. Because the worm's final"}, {"end": "00:14:22", "start": "00:14:18", "text": "destination is in a bird's gut, the"}, {"end": "00:14:25", "start": "00:14:20", "text": "parasite hijacks an insect survival"}, {"end": "00:14:27", "start": "00:14:22", "text": "instincts. It abandons cover and wanders"}, {"end": "00:14:29", "start": "00:14:25", "text": "into open areas where birds hunt. Some"}, {"end": "00:14:31", "start": "00:14:27", "text": "climb to the tops of plants and stay"}, {"end": "00:14:34", "start": "00:14:29", "text": "exposed. Birds eat the zombified"}, {"end": "00:14:35", "start": "00:14:31", "text": "insects. The worm infects the bird. More"}, {"end": "00:14:37", "start": "00:14:34", "text": "worms spread through the bird's feces,"}, {"end": "00:14:39", "start": "00:14:35", "text": "and the bird never knows the worm is"}, {"end": "00:14:41", "start": "00:14:37", "text": "there. In fact, there's a dangerous"}, {"end": "00:14:43", "start": "00:14:39", "text": "parasite that's already living in almost"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:41", "text": "half of the human population. And if you"}, {"end": "00:14:49", "start": "00:14:43", "text": "don't have it, there's a good chance"}, {"end": "00:14:49", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "that somebody living in your house does."}, {"end": "00:15:03", "start": "00:14:58", "text": "Toxopplasma Gandhi is a single-sellled"}, {"end": "00:15:05", "start": "00:15:01", "text": "parasite that lives in contaminated"}, {"end": "00:15:08", "start": "00:15:03", "text": "water and undercooked meat. Between 30"}, {"end": "00:15:09", "start": "00:15:05", "text": "and 50% of humans carry it. Most don't"}, {"end": "00:15:11", "start": "00:15:08", "text": "know they're infected. The reason it's"}, {"end": "00:15:14", "start": "00:15:09", "text": "so common, cats."}, {"end": "00:15:15", "start": "00:15:11", "text": "I knew it. Those filthy hell beasts of"}, {"end": "00:15:17", "start": "00:15:14", "text": "boweapons."}, {"end": "00:15:19", "start": "00:15:15", "text": "Okay, settle down. About half of all"}, {"end": "00:15:22", "start": "00:15:17", "text": "cats have toxopplasma antibodies from"}, {"end": "00:15:25", "start": "00:15:19", "text": "past infection. And this bug is tough."}, {"end": "00:15:27", "start": "00:15:22", "text": "It survives months in cat feces, years"}, {"end": "00:15:29", "start": "00:15:25", "text": "in soil and water. It can withstand"}, {"end": "00:15:31", "start": "00:15:27", "text": "refrigeration and even freezing."}, {"end": "00:15:33", "start": "00:15:29", "text": "Chlorine won't kill it. Neither will"}, {"end": "00:15:36", "start": "00:15:31", "text": "soap or detergent. Sulfuric acid kills"}, {"end": "00:15:38", "start": "00:15:33", "text": "it, but it takes almost 2 years. It's"}, {"end": "00:15:41", "start": "00:15:36", "text": "easily spread by household insects like"}, {"end": "00:15:42", "start": "00:15:38", "text": "cockroaches and flies and rodents. And"}, {"end": "00:15:46", "start": "00:15:41", "text": "there's an argument that toxopplasma"}, {"end": "00:15:48", "start": "00:15:42", "text": "gandi evolved to help cats. Infected"}, {"end": "00:15:50", "start": "00:15:46", "text": "rats and mice lose their fear of cats."}, {"end": "00:15:52", "start": "00:15:48", "text": "They become slower, less alert. They're"}, {"end": "00:15:55", "start": "00:15:50", "text": "actually attracted to cat urine."}, {"end": "00:15:56", "start": "00:15:52", "text": "Poxopplasma programs rodents to get"}, {"end": "00:15:58", "start": "00:15:55", "text": "eaten."}, {"end": "00:16:00", "start": "00:15:56", "text": "It's the perfect parasite."}, {"end": "00:16:03", "start": "00:15:58", "text": "Indestructible, persistent, widespread,"}, {"end": "00:16:05", "start": "00:16:00", "text": "undetectable. The military knows that in"}, {"end": "00:16:07", "start": "00:16:03", "text": "a real outbreak, every cat becomes a"}, {"end": "00:16:07", "start": "00:16:05", "text": "disease vector. You couldn't trust any"}, {"end": "00:16:10", "start": "00:16:07", "text": "of them."}, {"end": "00:16:11", "start": "00:16:07", "text": "If you trust a house cat, you deserve to"}, {"end": "00:16:14", "start": "00:16:10", "text": "get eat."}, {"end": "00:16:17", "start": "00:16:11", "text": "That's why conplan 8888 takes biological"}, {"end": "00:16:19", "start": "00:16:14", "text": "threat seriously. Once a pathogen enters"}, {"end": "00:16:20", "start": "00:16:17", "text": "the pet population, containment becomes"}, {"end": "00:16:22", "start": "00:16:19", "text": "impossible."}, {"end": "00:16:22", "start": "00:16:20", "text": "You could eliminate all the cats."}, {"end": "00:16:24", "start": "00:16:22", "text": "Stop that."}, {"end": "00:16:27", "start": "00:16:22", "text": "I'm just saying if you want to make an"}, {"end": "00:16:29", "start": "00:16:24", "text": "omelette, you got to break some kittens."}, {"end": "00:16:31", "start": "00:16:27", "text": "But here's what keeps researchers awake"}, {"end": "00:16:33", "start": "00:16:29", "text": "at night. Most people don't know they're"}, {"end": "00:16:35", "start": "00:16:31", "text": "carrying toxopplasma. Studies show"}, {"end": "00:16:37", "start": "00:16:33", "text": "infected humans take more risks. They"}, {"end": "00:16:39", "start": "00:16:35", "text": "drive aggressively. Some researchers"}, {"end": "00:16:41", "start": "00:16:37", "text": "link it to personality changes,"}, {"end": "00:16:44", "start": "00:16:39", "text": "decision-making problems, even mental"}, {"end": "00:16:47", "start": "00:16:41", "text": "health issues. This is why conplan 8888"}, {"end": "00:16:49", "start": "00:16:44", "text": "exists. This is why the Pentagon plans."}, {"end": "00:16:52", "start": "00:16:47", "text": "Because zombies aren't coming. They're"}, {"end": "00:16:52", "start": "00:16:49", "text": "already here."}, {"end": "00:17:15", "start": "00:17:11", "text": "Dr. Annie Louu was a molecular"}, {"end": "00:17:18", "start": "00:17:12", "text": "gerontologist and the latest darling of"}, {"end": "00:17:20", "start": "00:17:15", "text": "Silicon Valley. She discovered a"}, {"end": "00:17:23", "start": "00:17:18", "text": "telomeir extending virus, the holy grail"}, {"end": "00:17:26", "start": "00:17:20", "text": "of life extension. She called it Project"}, {"end": "00:17:28", "start": "00:17:23", "text": "Lazarus."}, {"end": "00:17:31", "start": "00:17:26", "text": "The ultra wealthy from all over the"}, {"end": "00:17:32", "start": "00:17:28", "text": "world poured billions into Lazarus. If"}, {"end": "00:17:36", "start": "00:17:31", "text": "there's one thing billionaires really"}, {"end": "00:17:39", "start": "00:17:32", "text": "hate doing, it's dying."}, {"end": "00:17:41", "start": "00:17:36", "text": "But Dr. Lou hit an impass."}, {"end": "00:17:43", "start": "00:17:39", "text": "The Lazarus virus worked perfectly in a"}, {"end": "00:17:46", "start": "00:17:41", "text": "petri dish, but once it was injected"}, {"end": "00:17:47", "start": "00:17:43", "text": "into a live rat, the rat died within"}, {"end": "00:17:50", "start": "00:17:46", "text": "hours."}, {"end": "00:17:53", "start": "00:17:47", "text": "Could it be the delivery vector? Maybe a"}, {"end": "00:17:56", "start": "00:17:50", "text": "cytoine cascade. Why do the telomers"}, {"end": "00:17:58", "start": "00:17:53", "text": "lengthen then trigger apoptosis?"}, {"end": "00:18:03", "start": "00:17:56", "text": "Immune storm in every test subject. Ours"}, {"end": "00:18:03", "start": "00:17:58", "text": "to death. What am I missing?"}, {"end": "00:18:49", "start": "00:18:41", "text": "Dr. Lou checked the time. It was after"}, {"end": "00:18:49", "start": "00:18:43", "text": "3:00 a.m. Her third allnighter in a row."}, {"end": "00:18:57", "start": "00:18:51", "text": "She needed to get some sleep. Better to"}, {"end": "00:18:57", "start": "00:18:53", "text": "deal with this with fresh eyes."}, {"end": "00:19:06", "start": "00:19:00", "text": "Hello."}, {"end": "00:19:06", "start": "00:19:03", "text": "I'm fine. It was just a hard day at the"}, {"end": "00:19:09", "start": "00:19:06", "text": "lab."}, {"end": "00:19:11", "start": "00:19:06", "text": "But Dr. Lou didn't realize how hard a"}, {"end": "00:19:14", "start": "00:19:09", "text": "day it was."}, {"end": "00:19:17", "start": "00:19:11", "text": "She never noticed the three micron tear"}, {"end": "00:19:19", "start": "00:19:14", "text": "in her hazmat suit. A human hair is"}, {"end": "00:19:23", "start": "00:19:17", "text": "about 60 microns wide, but not the"}, {"end": "00:19:26", "start": "00:19:19", "text": "Lazarus virus. Those are 0.02 microns"}, {"end": "00:19:29", "start": "00:19:23", "text": "wide. Plenty of room for a virus to"}, {"end": "00:19:30", "start": "00:19:26", "text": "enter. In fact, that's enough room for"}, {"end": "00:19:33", "start": "00:19:29", "text": "hundreds of them to enter."}, {"end": "00:19:36", "start": "00:19:30", "text": "Of course, I'm coming. I wouldn't miss"}, {"end": "00:19:39", "start": "00:19:33", "text": "my little sister's wedding for anything."}, {"end": "00:19:44", "start": "00:19:36", "text": "Dr. Lou took every precaution. N95 masks"}, {"end": "00:19:48", "start": "00:19:39", "text": "block particles 0.03 microns wide. But"}, {"end": "00:19:48", "start": "00:19:44", "text": "that's not enough to stop Lazarus."}, {"end": "00:19:52", "start": "00:19:48", "text": "Even if Dr. Lou knew about the tear, she"}, {"end": "00:19:56", "start": "00:19:51", "text": "wouldn't have been that concerned."}, {"end": "00:19:58", "start": "00:19:52", "text": "Lazarus wasn't an airborne virus."}, {"end": "00:20:02", "start": "00:19:56", "text": "Lazarus only worked if it was injected"}, {"end": "00:20:02", "start": "00:19:58", "text": "directly into the bloodstream."}, {"end": "00:20:31", "start": "00:20:26", "text": "But now Lazarus was airborne."}, {"end": "00:20:54", "start": "00:20:48", "text": "The next zombie classification in"}, {"end": "00:20:56", "start": "00:20:50", "text": "conplan 8888 RZ radiation zombies"}, {"end": "00:20:58", "start": "00:20:54", "text": "organisms become zombies after absorbing"}, {"end": "00:21:01", "start": "00:20:56", "text": "extreme electromagnetic radiation."}, {"end": "00:21:03", "start": "00:20:58", "text": "Nuclear accidents, dirty bombs, cosmic"}, {"end": "00:21:06", "start": "00:21:01", "text": "radiation. The Pentagon says any of"}, {"end": "00:21:08", "start": "00:21:03", "text": "these can create zombies. Solar flares"}, {"end": "00:21:10", "start": "00:21:06", "text": "bombard earth with charged particles. A"}, {"end": "00:21:12", "start": "00:21:08", "text": "coronal mass ejection could expose"}, {"end": "00:21:15", "start": "00:21:10", "text": "entire populations to dangerous"}, {"end": "00:21:17", "start": "00:21:12", "text": "radiation. The 1859 caratin event"}, {"end": "00:21:19", "start": "00:21:15", "text": "knocked out telegraph systems all over"}, {"end": "00:21:21", "start": "00:21:17", "text": "the world. A similar event today could"}, {"end": "00:21:24", "start": "00:21:19", "text": "deliver radiation doses that alter brain"}, {"end": "00:21:26", "start": "00:21:21", "text": "chemistry on a massive scale. After"}, {"end": "00:21:28", "start": "00:21:24", "text": "Chernobyl, emergency responders who"}, {"end": "00:21:30", "start": "00:21:26", "text": "entered the reactor core experienced"}, {"end": "00:21:33", "start": "00:21:28", "text": "rapid cellular breakdown. Some survivors"}, {"end": "00:21:35", "start": "00:21:30", "text": "reported hallucinations and aggressive"}, {"end": "00:21:38", "start": "00:21:33", "text": "behavior before dying."}, {"end": "00:21:40", "start": "00:21:35", "text": "But radiation doesn't always kill. We"}, {"end": "00:21:43", "start": "00:21:38", "text": "covered how Chernobyl's dogs and wolves"}, {"end": "00:21:45", "start": "00:21:40", "text": "adapted to high radiation. An entirely"}, {"end": "00:21:47", "start": "00:21:43", "text": "new wolf species emerged highly"}, {"end": "00:21:49", "start": "00:21:45", "text": "resistant to cancer. If radiation can"}, {"end": "00:21:51", "start": "00:21:47", "text": "create a new type of wolf, it can create"}, {"end": "00:21:53", "start": "00:21:49", "text": "a new type of human. And in the wrong"}, {"end": "00:21:56", "start": "00:21:51", "text": "hands, that human becomes the perfect"}, {"end": "00:22:00", "start": "00:21:53", "text": "soldier. Conplan 8888 calls these"}, {"end": "00:22:02", "start": "00:21:56", "text": "weaponized zombies. WZs are specifically"}, {"end": "00:22:05", "start": "00:22:00", "text": "created for military use. The Pentagon"}, {"end": "00:22:07", "start": "00:22:02", "text": "causes a threat because the technology"}, {"end": "00:22:07", "start": "00:22:05", "text": "exists and they should know they created"}, {"end": "00:22:08", "start": "00:22:07", "text": "it."}, {"end": "00:22:10", "start": "00:22:07", "text": "Wuhan."}, {"end": "00:22:14", "start": "00:22:08", "text": "No, you're going to get us canceled."}, {"end": "00:22:16", "start": "00:22:10", "text": "Oh. Oh, I meant uh Wuhan. Solo really"}, {"end": "00:22:19", "start": "00:22:14", "text": "showed Greo's boss."}, {"end": "00:22:21", "start": "00:22:16", "text": "Nice save. Chemical weapons affect brain"}, {"end": "00:22:23", "start": "00:22:19", "text": "function and behavior."}, {"end": "00:22:25", "start": "00:22:21", "text": "During the Cold War, both superpowers"}, {"end": "00:22:28", "start": "00:22:23", "text": "developed psychochemical agents to"}, {"end": "00:22:30", "start": "00:22:25", "text": "incapacitate enemy forces. BZ tested by"}, {"end": "00:22:32", "start": "00:22:28", "text": "the US Army caused hallucinations and"}, {"end": "00:22:35", "start": "00:22:30", "text": "confusion. Similar compounds could"}, {"end": "00:22:37", "start": "00:22:32", "text": "create zombie symptoms. Crisper gene"}, {"end": "00:22:40", "start": "00:22:35", "text": "editing alters organisms at the genetic"}, {"end": "00:22:42", "start": "00:22:37", "text": "level. Synthetic biology creates"}, {"end": "00:22:44", "start": "00:22:40", "text": "entirely new biological systems. A"}, {"end": "00:22:46", "start": "00:22:42", "text": "hostile nation could engineer a pathogen"}, {"end": "00:22:48", "start": "00:22:44", "text": "that creates controllable zombies."}, {"end": "00:22:50", "start": "00:22:46", "text": "Controllable zombies. And we already got"}, {"end": "00:22:52", "start": "00:22:48", "text": "those. They're called cable news"}, {"end": "00:22:55", "start": "00:22:50", "text": "viewers."}, {"end": "00:22:56", "start": "00:22:52", "text": "Con plan 888 shows the military"}, {"end": "00:23:01", "start": "00:22:55", "text": "preparing for zombies that can come from"}, {"end": "00:23:01", "start": "00:22:56", "text": "anywhere, even outer space."}, {"end": "00:23:13", "start": "00:23:08", "text": "Space zombies come from outer space or"}, {"end": "00:23:15", "start": "00:23:11", "text": "result from alien contamination of"}, {"end": "00:23:20", "start": "00:23:13", "text": "Earth's environment."}, {"end": "00:23:23", "start": "00:23:15", "text": "US Stratcom Con Plan 8888 section 4"}, {"end": "00:23:26", "start": "00:23:20", "text": "subsection 6 zombie threat summary part"}, {"end": "00:23:28", "start": "00:23:23", "text": "four space zombies SZs are zombie life"}, {"end": "00:23:30", "start": "00:23:26", "text": "forms originating from space or created"}, {"end": "00:23:32", "start": "00:23:28", "text": "by toxic contamination of the Earth"}, {"end": "00:23:36", "start": "00:23:30", "text": "environment via some form of"}, {"end": "00:23:37", "start": "00:23:32", "text": "extraterrestrial toxin or radiation"}, {"end": "00:23:40", "start": "00:23:36", "text": "NASA and the military already have"}, {"end": "00:23:42", "start": "00:23:37", "text": "protocols to prevent contamination from"}, {"end": "00:23:44", "start": "00:23:40", "text": "space missions. When Apollo astronauts"}, {"end": "00:23:46", "start": "00:23:42", "text": "returned from the moon, they spent 21"}, {"end": "00:23:49", "start": "00:23:44", "text": "days in quarantine. The concern was that"}, {"end": "00:23:50", "start": "00:23:46", "text": "lunar microorganisms might be dangerous"}, {"end": "00:23:51", "start": "00:23:49", "text": "to life on Earth."}, {"end": "00:23:54", "start": "00:23:50", "text": "You mean when the astronauts returned"}, {"end": "00:23:55", "start": "00:23:51", "text": "from the sound stage in Burbank, they"}, {"end": "00:23:57", "start": "00:23:54", "text": "had to make sure they didn't pick up a"}, {"end": "00:23:58", "start": "00:23:55", "text": "bug from the San Fernando Valley."}, {"end": "00:24:01", "start": "00:23:57", "text": "Let's not do this now."}, {"end": "00:24:03", "start": "00:23:58", "text": "The Valley flu they call it. Symptoms"}, {"end": "00:24:05", "start": "00:24:01", "text": "include a traction to shopping malls,"}, {"end": "00:24:07", "start": "00:24:03", "text": "degraded parking skills, and an"}, {"end": "00:24:10", "start": "00:24:05", "text": "insatiable appetite for Baja Fresh."}, {"end": "00:24:12", "start": "00:24:07", "text": "They make good burritos. done tooting"}, {"end": "00:24:15", "start": "00:24:10", "text": "do."}, {"end": "00:24:16", "start": "00:24:12", "text": "But NASA protocols won't help if toxins"}, {"end": "00:24:19", "start": "00:24:15", "text": "land outside the jurisdiction of the"}, {"end": "00:24:21", "start": "00:24:16", "text": "United States. Because SC's come from"}, {"end": "00:24:22", "start": "00:24:19", "text": "space, they can affect any place on"}, {"end": "00:24:27", "start": "00:24:21", "text": "Earth."}, {"end": "00:24:29", "start": "00:24:22", "text": "US Stratcom Con plan 888, section 4,"}, {"end": "00:24:32", "start": "00:24:27", "text": "subsection 5. Conditions for"}, {"end": "00:24:34", "start": "00:24:29", "text": "implementation, part A continued."}, {"end": "00:24:36", "start": "00:24:32", "text": "Asteroids and nuclear space radiation"}, {"end": "00:24:38", "start": "00:24:34", "text": "that can convert people into zombies can"}, {"end": "00:24:40", "start": "00:24:36", "text": "affect any land mass or population on"}, {"end": "00:24:43", "start": "00:24:38", "text": "Earth. Given the rapidity at which"}, {"end": "00:24:45", "start": "00:24:40", "text": "zombie outbreaks spread, decisive,"}, {"end": "00:24:47", "start": "00:24:43", "text": "overwhelming, and possibly unilateral"}, {"end": "00:24:49", "start": "00:24:45", "text": "military force may be required to negate"}, {"end": "00:24:52", "start": "00:24:47", "text": "the zombie threat."}, {"end": "00:24:54", "start": "00:24:49", "text": "Real scientific research shows organisms"}, {"end": "00:24:56", "start": "00:24:52", "text": "survive where life should be impossible."}, {"end": "00:24:59", "start": "00:24:54", "text": "These extreophiles include tardigrades"}, {"end": "00:25:01", "start": "00:24:56", "text": "that withstand the vacuum of space. If"}, {"end": "00:25:03", "start": "00:24:59", "text": "similar organisms exist elsewhere in the"}, {"end": "00:25:05", "start": "00:25:01", "text": "solar system, they might be incompatible"}, {"end": "00:25:08", "start": "00:25:03", "text": "with human biology."}, {"end": "00:25:10", "start": "00:25:05", "text": "Large asteroids or comets could carry"}, {"end": "00:25:13", "start": "00:25:08", "text": "alien microorganisms or radioactive"}, {"end": "00:25:15", "start": "00:25:10", "text": "materials. The Tuska event in 1908"}, {"end": "00:25:17", "start": "00:25:13", "text": "flattened over a thousand square miles"}, {"end": "00:25:20", "start": "00:25:15", "text": "of Siberian forest. If a similar impact"}, {"end": "00:25:22", "start": "00:25:17", "text": "happened over a populated area, alien"}, {"end": "00:25:24", "start": "00:25:20", "text": "contamination would spread before anyone"}, {"end": "00:25:27", "start": "00:25:22", "text": "could respond."}, {"end": "00:25:29", "start": "00:25:24", "text": "Conclan 8888 states nuclear weapons"}, {"end": "00:25:31", "start": "00:25:27", "text": "would be the most effective counter to"}, {"end": "00:25:33", "start": "00:25:29", "text": "space zombies. The logic, if"}, {"end": "00:25:35", "start": "00:25:31", "text": "contamination can't be contained,"}, {"end": "00:25:37", "start": "00:25:33", "text": "incineration at nuclear temperatures"}, {"end": "00:25:39", "start": "00:25:35", "text": "becomes the only option. But there's one"}, {"end": "00:25:41", "start": "00:25:37", "text": "zombie type that concerns the military"}, {"end": "00:25:42", "start": "00:25:39", "text": "more than any other. It can't be killed"}, {"end": "00:25:44", "start": "00:25:41", "text": "with conventional weapons. It can't be"}, {"end": "00:25:49", "start": "00:25:42", "text": "killed with nuclear weapons. The only"}, {"end": "00:25:49", "start": "00:25:44", "text": "way to fight this zombie is with God."}, {"end": "00:26:08", "start": "00:26:03", "text": "Evil magic zombies. The document"}, {"end": "00:26:10", "start": "00:26:06", "text": "actually uses those words. The Pentagon"}, {"end": "00:26:12", "start": "00:26:08", "text": "has an official position on supernatural"}, {"end": "00:26:16", "start": "00:26:10", "text": "threats."}, {"end": "00:26:19", "start": "00:26:12", "text": "US Stratcom con plan 8888. Section four,"}, {"end": "00:26:23", "start": "00:26:16", "text": "subsection six, zombie threat summary,"}, {"end": "00:26:24", "start": "00:26:19", "text": "part three. Evil magic zombies. Of the"}, {"end": "00:26:27", "start": "00:26:23", "text": "classes of zombies, one type is caused"}, {"end": "00:26:29", "start": "00:26:24", "text": "by occult phenomena that cannot be"}, {"end": "00:26:33", "start": "00:26:27", "text": "reliably monitored, predicted, or proven"}, {"end": "00:26:36", "start": "00:26:29", "text": "to exist. Zombies caused by occult"}, {"end": "00:26:39", "start": "00:26:33", "text": "phenomena are EMZs."}, {"end": "00:26:43", "start": "00:26:36", "text": "The only way to ensure a zombie is dead"}, {"end": "00:26:45", "start": "00:26:39", "text": "is to burn the zombie corpse. EMZs are"}, {"end": "00:26:47", "start": "00:26:43", "text": "the only class of zombie that may not be"}, {"end": "00:26:49", "start": "00:26:45", "text": "vulnerable to this measure. Despite"}, {"end": "00:26:51", "start": "00:26:47", "text": "being the hardest threats to eliminate"}, {"end": "00:26:53", "start": "00:26:49", "text": "directly by attacking the zombie life"}, {"end": "00:26:56", "start": "00:26:51", "text": "form, EMZs can usually be eliminated if"}, {"end": "00:26:57", "start": "00:26:53", "text": "the source of evil magic is destroyed."}, {"end": "00:26:59", "start": "00:26:56", "text": "There is evidence to suggest the"}, {"end": "00:27:02", "start": "00:26:57", "text": "Chaplain Corps may prove integral to"}, {"end": "00:27:04", "start": "00:26:59", "text": "countering these threats."}, {"end": "00:27:06", "start": "00:27:02", "text": "The military takes this seriously enough"}, {"end": "00:27:08", "start": "00:27:04", "text": "to assign the Chaplain Corps as primary"}, {"end": "00:27:10", "start": "00:27:06", "text": "defense. Now, think about that. The"}, {"end": "00:27:11", "start": "00:27:08", "text": "Pentagon believes defeating these"}, {"end": "00:27:12", "start": "00:27:10", "text": "zombies might require divine"}, {"end": "00:27:15", "start": "00:27:11", "text": "intervention."}, {"end": "00:27:15", "start": "00:27:12", "text": "You're Jon Snow intervention."}, {"end": "00:27:17", "start": "00:27:15", "text": "Right."}, {"end": "00:27:19", "start": "00:27:15", "text": "Thousands of years ago, there came a"}, {"end": "00:27:22", "start": "00:27:17", "text": "night that lasted a generation. Kings"}, {"end": "00:27:24", "start": "00:27:19", "text": "froze to death in their castles. Same as"}, {"end": "00:27:25", "start": "00:27:22", "text": "the shepherds in their hoods. Women"}, {"end": "00:27:28", "start": "00:27:24", "text": "smothered their babies rather than see"}, {"end": "00:27:30", "start": "00:27:25", "text": "them starve and wept and felt the tears"}, {"end": "00:27:33", "start": "00:27:28", "text": "freeze on their cheeks. So is it for the"}, {"end": "00:27:33", "start": "00:27:30", "text": "long night and the white walkers?"}, {"end": "00:27:36", "start": "00:27:33", "text": "Oh man,"}, {"end": "00:27:38", "start": "00:27:33", "text": "I know what it is. But yes, white"}, {"end": "00:27:40", "start": "00:27:36", "text": "walkers and whites in Game of Thrones"}, {"end": "00:27:42", "start": "00:27:38", "text": "are evil magic zombies."}, {"end": "00:27:44", "start": "00:27:40", "text": "Fighting the supernatural isn't new to"}, {"end": "00:27:46", "start": "00:27:42", "text": "the military. During World War II, both"}, {"end": "00:27:49", "start": "00:27:44", "text": "sides employed occult research"}, {"end": "00:27:51", "start": "00:27:46", "text": "divisions. The Nazis had the Aderva. The"}, {"end": "00:27:54", "start": "00:27:49", "text": "Allies had their own paranormal units."}, {"end": "00:27:56", "start": "00:27:51", "text": "Churchill consulted astrologers. The US"}, {"end": "00:27:58", "start": "00:27:54", "text": "Army investigated psychic warfare during"}, {"end": "00:28:00", "start": "00:27:56", "text": "the Cold War. Now, it may seem that the"}, {"end": "00:28:02", "start": "00:27:58", "text": "military has everything figured out."}, {"end": "00:28:04", "start": "00:28:00", "text": "They've identified each type of zombie"}, {"end": "00:28:08", "start": "00:28:02", "text": "threat. They understand how to fight"}, {"end": "00:28:11", "start": "00:28:04", "text": "them. but not so fast. Buried on page 16"}, {"end": "00:28:15", "start": "00:28:08", "text": "is a single unsettling section."}, {"end": "00:28:18", "start": "00:28:11", "text": "US Stratcom con plan 8888 section 4"}, {"end": "00:28:21", "start": "00:28:15", "text": "subsection 13.3 shortfalls and limiting"}, {"end": "00:28:23", "start": "00:28:18", "text": "factors. Adequate zombie defenses"}, {"end": "00:28:26", "start": "00:28:21", "text": "require sandbags, sand, carved wire,"}, {"end": "00:28:28", "start": "00:28:23", "text": "anti-personnel mines, riot control"}, {"end": "00:28:31", "start": "00:28:26", "text": "chemical agents, and petroleum to create"}, {"end": "00:28:33", "start": "00:28:28", "text": "flame barriers."}, {"end": "00:28:35", "start": "00:28:31", "text": "These supplies may not be present in"}, {"end": "00:28:37", "start": "00:28:33", "text": "sufficient volume to defend against"}, {"end": "00:28:39", "start": "00:28:35", "text": "zombie incursion and could severely tax"}, {"end": "00:28:41", "start": "00:28:37", "text": "available logistical support"}, {"end": "00:28:43", "start": "00:28:39", "text": "infrastructure."}, {"end": "00:28:46", "start": "00:28:41", "text": "US Stratcom forces do not currently hold"}, {"end": "00:28:49", "start": "00:28:43", "text": "enough contingency stores, food, water"}, {"end": "00:28:52", "start": "00:28:46", "text": "to support 30 days of barricaded counter"}, {"end": "00:28:54", "start": "00:28:49", "text": "zombie operations. And US Stratcom has"}, {"end": "00:28:57", "start": "00:28:52", "text": "no ground combat forces capable of"}, {"end": "00:28:59", "start": "00:28:54", "text": "repelling a zombie assault."}, {"end": "00:29:01", "start": "00:28:57", "text": "Several zombie types identified."}, {"end": "00:29:03", "start": "00:28:59", "text": "specific tactical recommendations,"}, {"end": "00:29:05", "start": "00:29:01", "text": "containment protocols, resource"}, {"end": "00:29:08", "start": "00:29:03", "text": "requirements, but not enough soldiers in"}, {"end": "00:29:10", "start": "00:29:05", "text": "the army to actually win. So, the"}, {"end": "00:29:12", "start": "00:29:08", "text": "military created a new army, an army of"}, {"end": "00:29:14", "start": "00:29:10", "text": "millions of soldiers, all trained to"}, {"end": "00:29:16", "start": "00:29:12", "text": "survive the zombie apocalypse. And for"}, {"end": "00:29:18", "start": "00:29:14", "text": "years, these soldiers have been learning"}, {"end": "00:29:20", "start": "00:29:16", "text": "how to organize, how to fight, and how"}, {"end": "00:29:23", "start": "00:29:18", "text": "to rebuild civilization. This army has"}, {"end": "00:29:25", "start": "00:29:20", "text": "been built in secret, but also in plain"}, {"end": "00:29:28", "start": "00:29:23", "text": "sight, because the soldiers of this army"}, {"end": "00:29:28", "start": "00:29:25", "text": "are us."}, {"end": "00:29:40", "start": "00:29:36", "text": "The military knows how to fight zombies."}, {"end": "00:29:43", "start": "00:29:39", "text": "They have a plan, but they don't have"}, {"end": "00:29:45", "start": "00:29:40", "text": "the soldiers. So, they created them. Us."}, {"end": "00:29:47", "start": "00:29:43", "text": "The military developed a psychological"}, {"end": "00:29:50", "start": "00:29:45", "text": "operation that trained millions of"}, {"end": "00:29:52", "start": "00:29:47", "text": "civilians without them knowing it."}, {"end": "00:29:56", "start": "00:29:50", "text": "The Walking Dead premiered on October"}, {"end": "00:29:58", "start": "00:29:52", "text": "31st, 2010. The same year conplan 8888"}, {"end": "00:30:00", "start": "00:29:56", "text": "finished development. World War Z"}, {"end": "00:30:02", "start": "00:29:58", "text": "started filming in 2011 and was released"}, {"end": "00:30:05", "start": "00:30:00", "text": "in 2013. The Last of Us game launched in"}, {"end": "00:30:07", "start": "00:30:02", "text": "2013. All during the exact time this"}, {"end": "00:30:09", "start": "00:30:05", "text": "military document was finalized and"}, {"end": "00:30:11", "start": "00:30:07", "text": "declassified."}, {"end": "00:30:13", "start": "00:30:09", "text": "Think about what these shows taught you."}, {"end": "00:30:16", "start": "00:30:11", "text": "Survival tactics, supply management,"}, {"end": "00:30:19", "start": "00:30:13", "text": "team dynamics, trust no one, secure your"}, {"end": "00:30:21", "start": "00:30:16", "text": "perimeter, always have an escape plan."}, {"end": "00:30:22", "start": "00:30:19", "text": "Millions of Americans absorbed zombie"}, {"end": "00:30:24", "start": "00:30:21", "text": "apocalypse protocols through"}, {"end": "00:30:26", "start": "00:30:22", "text": "entertainment. The training was subtle"}, {"end": "00:30:29", "start": "00:30:24", "text": "but effective. I've watched every"}, {"end": "00:30:30", "start": "00:30:26", "text": "Walking Dead episode. Okay. I watched up"}, {"end": "00:30:33", "start": "00:30:29", "text": "until season 5."}, {"end": "00:30:36", "start": "00:30:30", "text": "I played The Last of Us games."}, {"end": "00:30:38", "start": "00:30:33", "text": "I played the first one."}, {"end": "00:30:40", "start": "00:30:36", "text": "The Walking Dead, Last of Us, World War"}, {"end": "00:30:42", "start": "00:30:38", "text": "Z. We've all consumed the same content"}, {"end": "00:30:44", "start": "00:30:40", "text": "and we learned the same lessons. The"}, {"end": "00:30:47", "start": "00:30:42", "text": "military didn't need boot camps. They"}, {"end": "00:30:49", "start": "00:30:44", "text": "had Netflix. But the SCUP might distract"}, {"end": "00:30:51", "start": "00:30:47", "text": "from the real secret. Conclan 8888"}, {"end": "00:30:53", "start": "00:30:49", "text": "contains multiple references to"}, {"end": "00:30:55", "start": "00:30:51", "text": "classified annexes never released"}, {"end": "00:30:58", "start": "00:30:53", "text": "publicly. The document repeatedly"}, {"end": "00:31:02", "start": "00:30:55", "text": "mentions annex C detailing space control"}, {"end": "00:31:04", "start": "00:30:58", "text": "capabilities. Page after page references"}, {"end": "00:31:07", "start": "00:31:02", "text": "classified sections stripped from the"}, {"end": "00:31:10", "start": "00:31:04", "text": "public version. AnnexS covers special"}, {"end": "00:31:12", "start": "00:31:07", "text": "technical operations. AnnexD handles"}, {"end": "00:31:14", "start": "00:31:10", "text": "classified logistics. Throughout the"}, {"end": "00:31:16", "start": "00:31:12", "text": "document, footnotes point to information"}, {"end": "00:31:19", "start": "00:31:14", "text": "marked secret or higher. The zombie"}, {"end": "00:31:22", "start": "00:31:16", "text": "scenarios were unclassified. The real"}, {"end": "00:31:24", "start": "00:31:19", "text": "military capabilities stayed hidden. The"}, {"end": "00:31:27", "start": "00:31:22", "text": "most telling detail is buried in the"}, {"end": "00:31:30", "start": "00:31:24", "text": "technical sections. Con plan 8888 works"}, {"end": "00:31:34", "start": "00:31:27", "text": "alongside other military plans. Con plan"}, {"end": "00:31:38", "start": "00:31:30", "text": "8035 for space operations. Conplan 8531"}, {"end": "00:31:40", "start": "00:31:34", "text": "for flu pandemics and con plan 8099 for"}, {"end": "00:31:44", "start": "00:31:38", "text": "combating WMDs. These are active"}, {"end": "00:31:46", "start": "00:31:40", "text": "military plans, not training exercises."}, {"end": "00:31:48", "start": "00:31:44", "text": "Because the zombie plan is unclassified,"}, {"end": "00:31:51", "start": "00:31:46", "text": "it implies the threat isn't real. But"}, {"end": "00:31:53", "start": "00:31:48", "text": "the classified military capabilities are"}, {"end": "00:31:55", "start": "00:31:51", "text": "real. There's clearly some kind of"}, {"end": "00:31:59", "start": "00:31:53", "text": "threat. So the big question is, how do"}, {"end": "00:31:59", "start": "00:31:55", "text": "you survive it?"}, {"end": "00:32:09", "start": "00:32:04", "text": "When the outbreak starts, you have about"}, {"end": "00:32:11", "start": "00:32:06", "text": "48 hours before everything falls apart."}, {"end": "00:32:14", "start": "00:32:09", "text": "Darkness falls across the land. The"}, {"end": "00:32:16", "start": "00:32:11", "text": "midnight hour is close at hand."}, {"end": "00:32:19", "start": "00:32:14", "text": "The creatures crawl in search of blood"}, {"end": "00:32:21", "start": "00:32:16", "text": "to terrorize y'all's neighborhood."}, {"end": "00:32:22", "start": "00:32:19", "text": "You got that out of your system?"}, {"end": "00:32:24", "start": "00:32:21", "text": "Almost."}, {"end": "00:32:26", "start": "00:32:22", "text": "Great. The people who survive aren't"}, {"end": "00:32:28", "start": "00:32:24", "text": "lucky. They're prepared. Your location"}, {"end": "00:32:32", "start": "00:32:26", "text": "determines your survival. If you're in a"}, {"end": "00:32:34", "start": "00:32:28", "text": "city, get out fast. Cities become death"}, {"end": "00:32:36", "start": "00:32:32", "text": "traps. All those people packed together."}, {"end": "00:32:38", "start": "00:32:34", "text": "That's a zombie buffet. And in a dense"}, {"end": "00:32:40", "start": "00:32:36", "text": "population center, the infection will"}, {"end": "00:32:42", "start": "00:32:38", "text": "spread faster than it can be contained."}, {"end": "00:32:43", "start": "00:32:40", "text": "Hospitals fill with infected who don't"}, {"end": "00:32:46", "start": "00:32:42", "text": "know what's happening to them. They"}, {"end": "00:32:48", "start": "00:32:43", "text": "stumble into emergency rooms and spread"}, {"end": "00:32:50", "start": "00:32:46", "text": "the virus to medical staff and don't"}, {"end": "00:32:52", "start": "00:32:48", "text": "call 911. Police stations get overrun by"}, {"end": "00:32:54", "start": "00:32:50", "text": "panicked citizens looking for weapons."}, {"end": "00:32:58", "start": "00:32:52", "text": "The smart cops go home to protect their"}, {"end": "00:33:00", "start": "00:32:54", "text": "families. The rest become casualties."}, {"end": "00:33:02", "start": "00:32:58", "text": "You need to be somewhere remote, a"}, {"end": "00:33:04", "start": "00:33:00", "text": "cabin, a homestead, or a farm. If you"}, {"end": "00:33:07", "start": "00:33:02", "text": "don't own one, better know someone who"}, {"end": "00:33:09", "start": "00:33:04", "text": "does. Those places have what matters."}, {"end": "00:33:11", "start": "00:33:07", "text": "Food, water, and people who know how to"}, {"end": "00:33:13", "start": "00:33:09", "text": "defend them."}, {"end": "00:33:15", "start": "00:33:11", "text": "Guns are loud. They attract attention"}, {"end": "00:33:17", "start": "00:33:13", "text": "you don't want. A bow and arrow works"}, {"end": "00:33:20", "start": "00:33:15", "text": "better. So does a knife, a bat, or a"}, {"end": "00:33:22", "start": "00:33:17", "text": "crowbar. Quiet weapons keep you alive"}, {"end": "00:33:24", "start": "00:33:20", "text": "longer. Skip the supermarkets. They're"}, {"end": "00:33:26", "start": "00:33:22", "text": "already swarming with desperate people."}, {"end": "00:33:29", "start": "00:33:24", "text": "You need supplies ready before disaster"}, {"end": "00:33:31", "start": "00:33:26", "text": "strikes. Prep a bugout bag. Forget the"}, {"end": "00:33:34", "start": "00:33:29", "text": "bottled water. Carry water purification"}, {"end": "00:33:36", "start": "00:33:31", "text": "tablets or a LifeStraw water filter."}, {"end": "00:33:39", "start": "00:33:34", "text": "Iodine pills for radiation exposure."}, {"end": "00:33:41", "start": "00:33:36", "text": "You'll need food. MREs last 30 years,"}, {"end": "00:33:43", "start": "00:33:39", "text": "but food is heavy. Better if you learn"}, {"end": "00:33:46", "start": "00:33:41", "text": "how to hunt, clean, and cook your own"}, {"end": "00:33:47", "start": "00:33:43", "text": "meals. Pack power cord rated for 500 lb."}, {"end": "00:33:49", "start": "00:33:46", "text": "It could be used for everything."}, {"end": "00:33:52", "start": "00:33:47", "text": "Securing shelter, making tourniquets,"}, {"end": "00:33:54", "start": "00:33:49", "text": "starting fires, and it works as fishing"}, {"end": "00:33:56", "start": "00:33:52", "text": "line. Pack a solar radio, solar"}, {"end": "00:33:58", "start": "00:33:54", "text": "flashlight, real band-aids, and N95"}, {"end": "00:34:00", "start": "00:33:56", "text": "masks. Take signaling mirrors and"}, {"end": "00:34:02", "start": "00:33:58", "text": "whistles, toothbrush, toothpaste,"}, {"end": "00:34:03", "start": "00:34:00", "text": "toiletries. When you're stuck in the"}, {"end": "00:34:05", "start": "00:34:02", "text": "wild, you'll be happy you remembered"}, {"end": "00:34:07", "start": "00:34:03", "text": "those. In my kit, I keep thermal"}, {"end": "00:34:10", "start": "00:34:05", "text": "blankets, a small propane stove, and"}, {"end": "00:34:12", "start": "00:34:07", "text": "glow sticks. I've got a fire starter, a"}, {"end": "00:34:13", "start": "00:34:10", "text": "multi-tool, three different kinds of"}, {"end": "00:34:15", "start": "00:34:12", "text": "knives."}, {"end": "00:34:17", "start": "00:34:13", "text": "Bring a needle and thread. Good for"}, {"end": "00:34:19", "start": "00:34:15", "text": "repairing clothes and sewing up wounds."}, {"end": "00:34:21", "start": "00:34:17", "text": "And if you don't have the stomach to"}, {"end": "00:34:23", "start": "00:34:19", "text": "stitch a cut, crazy glue will do in a"}, {"end": "00:34:25", "start": "00:34:21", "text": "pinch. And don't forget duct tape. It"}, {"end": "00:34:27", "start": "00:34:23", "text": "fixes everything and reinforces"}, {"end": "00:34:29", "start": "00:34:25", "text": "barricades. I even keep mini bugout bags"}, {"end": "00:34:31", "start": "00:34:27", "text": "in all my vehicles. You can pick one up"}, {"end": "00:34:34", "start": "00:34:29", "text": "for about 40 bucks, and I'll link below"}, {"end": "00:34:36", "start": "00:34:31", "text": "to the gear I use. Once you're out of"}, {"end": "00:34:38", "start": "00:34:34", "text": "the chaos, find a place where you can"}, {"end": "00:34:40", "start": "00:34:36", "text": "rest, watch your lines of sight, learn"}, {"end": "00:34:43", "start": "00:34:38", "text": "to set a perimeter, trip wires and"}, {"end": "00:34:46", "start": "00:34:40", "text": "snares, anything to alert you to danger,"}, {"end": "00:34:48", "start": "00:34:43", "text": "and find other people. Pull resources,"}, {"end": "00:34:50", "start": "00:34:46", "text": "exchange knowledge and skills, know your"}, {"end": "00:34:52", "start": "00:34:48", "text": "strengths, and find people to shore up"}, {"end": "00:34:54", "start": "00:34:50", "text": "your weaknesses. Some people are"}, {"end": "00:34:56", "start": "00:34:52", "text": "fighters, some are farmers, some are"}, {"end": "00:34:59", "start": "00:34:54", "text": "planners, some are builders, their"}, {"end": "00:35:01", "start": "00:34:56", "text": "safety and numbers. But when connecting"}, {"end": "00:35:04", "start": "00:34:59", "text": "with strangers, trust your gut. Whether"}, {"end": "00:35:06", "start": "00:35:01", "text": "it's conplan 8888 or some generic"}, {"end": "00:35:07", "start": "00:35:04", "text": "survival guide, they'll tell you the"}, {"end": "00:35:09", "start": "00:35:06", "text": "same thing. When the end of the world"}, {"end": "00:35:14", "start": "00:35:07", "text": "comes, the most dangerous thing you'll"}, {"end": "00:35:14", "start": "00:35:09", "text": "face isn't zombies, it's other people."}, {"end": "00:35:28", "start": "00:35:23", "text": "We followed con plan 8888 from a zombie"}, {"end": "00:35:30", "start": "00:35:26", "text": "outbreak at Offet Air Force Base through"}, {"end": "00:35:32", "start": "00:35:28", "text": "classified space operations and"}, {"end": "00:35:34", "start": "00:35:30", "text": "potential psychological warfare. The"}, {"end": "00:35:36", "start": "00:35:32", "text": "military created detailed protocols for"}, {"end": "00:35:40", "start": "00:35:34", "text": "fighting the undead. So what's actually"}, {"end": "00:35:42", "start": "00:35:36", "text": "real? Well, comp plan 888 is exactly"}, {"end": "00:35:44", "start": "00:35:40", "text": "what the Pentagon says it is, a training"}, {"end": "00:35:47", "start": "00:35:42", "text": "exercise. Junior officers created it to"}, {"end": "00:35:49", "start": "00:35:44", "text": "learn planning procedures. Using an"}, {"end": "00:35:51", "start": "00:35:47", "text": "impossible scenario avoids diplomatic"}, {"end": "00:35:53", "start": "00:35:49", "text": "problems. So rather than create a plan"}, {"end": "00:35:55", "start": "00:35:51", "text": "to defeat Russians or Chinese, the"}, {"end": "00:35:58", "start": "00:35:53", "text": "enemies are evil magic zombies. Everyone"}, {"end": "00:36:00", "start": "00:35:55", "text": "understands its practice. The zombie"}, {"end": "00:36:03", "start": "00:35:58", "text": "scup theory also doesn't hold up. The"}, {"end": "00:36:05", "start": "00:36:00", "text": "timing of conplan 8888 being released at"}, {"end": "00:36:07", "start": "00:36:03", "text": "the same time as zombie movies and TV"}, {"end": "00:36:09", "start": "00:36:05", "text": "shows wasn't coordination. It was"}, {"end": "00:36:11", "start": "00:36:07", "text": "coincidence. Hollywood always follows"}, {"end": "00:36:13", "start": "00:36:09", "text": "the money. Remember we had 10 or 15"}, {"end": "00:36:15", "start": "00:36:11", "text": "years of superhero movies released one"}, {"end": "00:36:18", "start": "00:36:13", "text": "after the other. Now not so much."}, {"end": "00:36:21", "start": "00:36:15", "text": "Yeah. Thanks a lot, Disney."}, {"end": "00:36:23", "start": "00:36:18", "text": "We had zombies before conplan 8888."}, {"end": "00:36:25", "start": "00:36:21", "text": "White Zombie came out in 1932. George"}, {"end": "00:36:28", "start": "00:36:23", "text": "Romero created modern zombies with Night"}, {"end": "00:36:30", "start": "00:36:25", "text": "of the Living Dead in 1968. Dawn of the"}, {"end": "00:36:32", "start": "00:36:28", "text": "Dead in 1978, set the template for"}, {"end": "00:36:35", "start": "00:36:30", "text": "everything that followed. The Walking"}, {"end": "00:36:37", "start": "00:36:32", "text": "Dead comics started in 2003. Studios see"}, {"end": "00:36:40", "start": "00:36:35", "text": "profit and then fled the market. But"}, {"end": "00:36:43", "start": "00:36:37", "text": "dismissing this as just a joke would be"}, {"end": "00:36:46", "start": "00:36:40", "text": "a mistake. Con plan 888 connects to real"}, {"end": "00:36:50", "start": "00:36:43", "text": "military plans. Conplan 8035, COP plan"}, {"end": "00:36:54", "start": "00:36:46", "text": "8531, COP plan 8099. These aren't"}, {"end": "00:36:54", "start": "00:36:50", "text": "exercises, they're operational."}, {"end": "00:37:00", "start": "00:36:56", "text": "The plan's real value is seeing the"}, {"end": "00:37:02", "start": "00:36:58", "text": "military acknowledge how fast society"}, {"end": "00:37:05", "start": "00:37:00", "text": "could collapse. It admits there are"}, {"end": "00:37:07", "start": "00:37:02", "text": "scenarios where the military can't win."}, {"end": "00:37:09", "start": "00:37:05", "text": "A plan to defeat zombies is hard for the"}, {"end": "00:37:12", "start": "00:37:07", "text": "public to take seriously. But maybe"}, {"end": "00:37:14", "start": "00:37:09", "text": "that's the point. Maybe Conplan 8888 is"}, {"end": "00:37:16", "start": "00:37:12", "text": "a clever distraction. The story isn't in"}, {"end": "00:37:19", "start": "00:37:14", "text": "the document they show us. It's in the"}, {"end": "00:37:21", "start": "00:37:16", "text": "documents they hide. Conplan 8888"}, {"end": "00:37:22", "start": "00:37:19", "text": "repeatedly references classified annexes"}, {"end": "00:37:24", "start": "00:37:21", "text": "that were stripped from the public"}, {"end": "00:37:27", "start": "00:37:22", "text": "version, but we know they exist. We just"}, {"end": "00:37:30", "start": "00:37:24", "text": "don't know what they are. We know they"}, {"end": "00:37:31", "start": "00:37:27", "text": "reference space-based operations, but we"}, {"end": "00:37:33", "start": "00:37:30", "text": "don't know what threats they address or"}, {"end": "00:37:35", "start": "00:37:31", "text": "what capabilities they describe. and"}, {"end": "00:37:37", "start": "00:37:33", "text": "they're not going to tell us. And that's"}, {"end": "00:37:39", "start": "00:37:35", "text": "why I believe con plan 8888 is an"}, {"end": "00:37:41", "start": "00:37:37", "text": "important document. In some ways, it"}, {"end": "00:37:43", "start": "00:37:39", "text": "paints the American people as distracted"}, {"end": "00:37:46", "start": "00:37:41", "text": "and selfish. And there's some truth to"}, {"end": "00:37:48", "start": "00:37:43", "text": "that. But things change in a crisis. To"}, {"end": "00:37:50", "start": "00:37:46", "text": "save our families and our communities,"}, {"end": "00:37:52", "start": "00:37:48", "text": "people will step up. Not everyone, but"}, {"end": "00:37:55", "start": "00:37:50", "text": "enough to matter. And whether"}, {"end": "00:37:57", "start": "00:37:52", "text": "intentional or not, COP plan 888 teaches"}, {"end": "00:37:59", "start": "00:37:55", "text": "valuable lessons about preparation and"}, {"end": "00:38:01", "start": "00:37:57", "text": "resource management. Those are good"}, {"end": "00:38:04", "start": "00:37:59", "text": "skills to learn and start learning them"}, {"end": "00:38:06", "start": "00:38:01", "text": "now. When society collapses, nobody's"}, {"end": "00:38:09", "start": "00:38:04", "text": "coming to save us. We are the first"}, {"end": "00:38:11", "start": "00:38:06", "text": "responders. So train like one. Prepare"}, {"end": "00:38:13", "start": "00:38:09", "text": "like one. The difference between a life"}, {"end": "00:38:15", "start": "00:38:11", "text": "lost and a life saved could be you. So"}, {"end": "00:38:17", "start": "00:38:13", "text": "get to know your neighbors. Learn how to"}, {"end": "00:38:19", "start": "00:38:15", "text": "communicate, how to plan, how to"}, {"end": "00:38:24", "start": "00:38:17", "text": "survive. If you don't learn these skills"}, {"end": "00:38:24", "start": "00:38:19", "text": "now, it could come back to bite you."}, {"end": "00:38:36", "start": "00:38:33", "text": "Thank you so much for hanging out today."}, {"end": "00:38:39", "start": "00:38:35", "text": "My name is AJ. Here's Hegelish."}, {"end": "00:38:41", "start": "00:38:36", "text": "And know you fight to stay alive, your"}, {"end": "00:38:44", "start": "00:38:39", "text": "body starts to shiver. For no mere"}, {"end": "00:38:45", "start": "00:38:41", "text": "immortal can resist the evil of that."}, {"end": "00:38:46", "start": "00:38:44", "text": "Careful. Copyright."}, {"end": "00:38:47", "start": "00:38:45", "text": "Ah, good point."}, {"end": "00:38:49", "start": "00:38:46", "text": "This has been the W files. Get fun or"}, {"end": "00:38:51", "start": "00:38:47", "text": "learn anything? Do him a favor."}, {"end": "00:38:52", "start": "00:38:49", "text": "Subscribe, comment, like, share. I"}, {"end": "00:38:54", "start": "00:38:51", "text": "remember when that stuff used to help"}, {"end": "00:38:56", "start": "00:38:52", "text": "the channel. And like most topics we"}, {"end": "00:38:57", "start": "00:38:54", "text": "cover on the channel, today's is"}, {"end": "00:38:58", "start": "00:38:56", "text": "recommended by you. So if there's a"}, {"end": "00:39:01", "start": "00:38:57", "text": "story you'd like to see or learn more"}, {"end": "00:39:04", "start": "00:38:58", "text": "about, go to the wfiles.com/tips"}, {"end": "00:39:06", "start": "00:39:01", "text": "or just email us. Remember, the Yfiles"}, {"end": "00:39:08", "start": "00:39:04", "text": "is also a podcast. We're on the top"}, {"end": "00:39:11", "start": "00:39:06", "text": "charts for YouTube, for Apple, and for"}, {"end": "00:39:12", "start": "00:39:08", "text": "Spotify, and I appreciate that. Twice a"}, {"end": "00:39:14", "start": "00:39:11", "text": "week, I post deep dives into the stories"}, {"end": "00:39:16", "start": "00:39:12", "text": "we cover on the channel, but you'll also"}, {"end": "00:39:18", "start": "00:39:14", "text": "see episodes that wouldn't be allowed on"}, {"end": "00:39:20", "start": "00:39:16", "text": "the channel, and I label those redacted."}, {"end": "00:39:22", "start": "00:39:18", "text": "Anyway, the podcast is called the Y"}, {"end": "00:39:24", "start": "00:39:20", "text": "Files Operation Podcast and it's"}, {"end": "00:39:26", "start": "00:39:22", "text": "available everywhere. And if you're"}, {"end": "00:39:27", "start": "00:39:24", "text": "listening on an audio platform, if"}, {"end": "00:39:29", "start": "00:39:26", "text": "there's a like button or a share or a"}, {"end": "00:39:30", "start": "00:39:27", "text": "subscribe or any of that stuff, it"}, {"end": "00:39:32", "start": "00:39:29", "text": "really does help the podcast. So, I"}, {"end": "00:39:34", "start": "00:39:30", "text": "would appreciate that. If you need more"}, {"end": "00:39:35", "start": "00:39:32", "text": "Wi-Fi files in your life, check out our"}, {"end": "00:39:36", "start": "00:39:34", "text": "Discord. There are thousands of people"}, {"end": "00:39:39", "start": "00:39:35", "text": "on there. Like, we're coming up on"}, {"end": "00:39:41", "start": "00:39:36", "text": "100,000. Pretty close. So, 24/7 there's"}, {"end": "00:39:43", "start": "00:39:39", "text": "someone on there talking about the same"}, {"end": "00:39:46", "start": "00:39:41", "text": "weird stuff we do here. You know,"}, {"end": "00:39:48", "start": "00:39:43", "text": "zombies and our 24/7 Discord kind of go"}, {"end": "00:39:49", "start": "00:39:46", "text": "hand in hand. It's a great community."}, {"end": "00:39:51", "start": "00:39:48", "text": "It's a lot of fun. It's really"}, {"end": "00:39:53", "start": "00:39:49", "text": "supportive and it's free to join. Now,"}, {"end": "00:39:55", "start": "00:39:51", "text": "speaking of 24/7, make sure you check"}, {"end": "00:39:58", "start": "00:39:53", "text": "out our 24/7 stream on the Wi-Fi"}, {"end": "00:40:00", "start": "00:39:55", "text": "backstage. Over there, we run episodes"}, {"end": "00:40:02", "start": "00:39:58", "text": "back to back with some fun content in"}, {"end": "00:40:03", "start": "00:40:00", "text": "between. And the live chat is more"}, {"end": "00:40:05", "start": "00:40:02", "text": "entertaining than the videos. It's a"}, {"end": "00:40:06", "start": "00:40:03", "text": "great community over there. If you want"}, {"end": "00:40:07", "start": "00:40:05", "text": "to know what's going on with the Wiles"}, {"end": "00:40:09", "start": "00:40:06", "text": "at any given time, you can check our"}, {"end": "00:40:10", "start": "00:40:07", "text": "production calendar. It's the"}, {"end": "00:40:12", "start": "00:40:09", "text": "wifiles.com/cow."}, {"end": "00:40:14", "start": "00:40:10", "text": "There we post our episode schedule,"}, {"end": "00:40:16", "start": "00:40:12", "text": "upcoming podcasts, live streams, all"}, {"end": "00:40:18", "start": "00:40:14", "text": "that stuff. Special thanks to our"}, {"end": "00:40:19", "start": "00:40:16", "text": "patrons who make this channel possible."}, {"end": "00:40:21", "start": "00:40:18", "text": "Every episode of the Wfiles is dedicated"}, {"end": "00:40:23", "start": "00:40:19", "text": "to our Patreon members. I could not do"}, {"end": "00:40:24", "start": "00:40:21", "text": "this without you. And if you'd like to"}, {"end": "00:40:26", "start": "00:40:23", "text": "support the channel, join this great"}, {"end": "00:40:28", "start": "00:40:24", "text": "community, and keep us going, consider"}, {"end": "00:40:29", "start": "00:40:26", "text": "becoming a member on Patreon. For as"}, {"end": "00:40:31", "start": "00:40:28", "text": "little as three bucks a month, get"}, {"end": "00:40:33", "start": "00:40:29", "text": "access to perks like seeing videos early"}, {"end": "00:40:35", "start": "00:40:31", "text": "with no commercials, exclusive merch,"}, {"end": "00:40:37", "start": "00:40:33", "text": "and two private live streams every week,"}, {"end": "00:40:39", "start": "00:40:35", "text": "all just for you. And the whole Wiles"}, {"end": "00:40:41", "start": "00:40:37", "text": "team is on the stream. You get to meet"}, {"end": "00:40:43", "start": "00:40:39", "text": "me, the wife, Victoria, all the mods,"}, {"end": "00:40:46", "start": "00:40:41", "text": "Gino, and you can turn your webcam on,"}, {"end": "00:40:48", "start": "00:40:43", "text": "jump up on stage, ask a question, talk"}, {"end": "00:40:49", "start": "00:40:46", "text": "about a topic, tell a joke, what,"}, {"end": "00:40:50", "start": "00:40:48", "text": "whatever you want. It's a way to get to"}, {"end": "00:40:52", "start": "00:40:49", "text": "know us as people. I think it's the best"}, {"end": "00:40:53", "start": "00:40:50", "text": "perk there is. Another great way to"}, {"end": "00:40:54", "start": "00:40:52", "text": "support the channel is grab something"}, {"end": "00:40:56", "start": "00:40:53", "text": "from the Wi-Fi store."}, {"end": "00:40:58", "start": "00:40:54", "text": "Grab a heck of a t-shirt or one of these"}, {"end": "00:41:01", "start": "00:40:56", "text": "visible coffee mugs that you can stick"}, {"end": "00:41:03", "start": "00:40:58", "text": "your zombified corpsy fist into, or grab"}, {"end": "00:41:05", "start": "00:41:01", "text": "a hoodie, or something my face on it, or"}, {"end": "00:41:08", "start": "00:41:03", "text": "get one of these squeezy animal stuff"}, {"end": "00:41:09", "start": "00:41:05", "text": "healish pushy doll toys."}, {"end": "00:41:11", "start": "00:41:08", "text": "But if you're going to buy merch, make"}, {"end": "00:41:13", "start": "00:41:09", "text": "sure you become a member on YouTube."}, {"end": "00:41:15", "start": "00:41:11", "text": "YouTube members get 10% off everything"}, {"end": "00:41:16", "start": "00:41:13", "text": "in the Wi-Fi store. Everything forever."}, {"end": "00:41:17", "start": "00:41:15", "text": "Yeah, keep that secret close to your"}, {"end": "00:41:19", "start": "00:41:16", "text": "gills. Zach,"}, {"end": "00:41:21", "start": "00:41:17", "text": "those are the plugs. You gave my voice"}, {"end": "00:41:24", "start": "00:41:19", "text": "cracking. I can't even tell you how long"}, {"end": "00:41:27", "start": "00:41:21", "text": "I've been sitting in this chair. 2"}, {"end": "00:41:28", "start": "00:41:24", "text": "hours. A lot of takes. Look, I'm doing"}, {"end": "00:41:32", "start": "00:41:27", "text": "the best I can. Until next time, be"}, {"end": "00:41:36", "start": "00:41:28", "text": "safe, be kind, know that you are"}, {"end": "00:41:36", "start": "00:41:32", "text": "appreciated, cuz you are."}, {"end": "00:41:59", "start": "00:41:50", "text": "I play Bibia in Area 51. A secret code"}, {"end": "00:42:03", "start": "00:41:54", "text": "inside the Bible said I would."}, {"end": "00:42:08", "start": "00:41:59", "text": "I love my UFOs and paranal fun as well"}, {"end": "00:42:11", "start": "00:42:03", "text": "as music singing like I should."}, {"end": "00:42:14", "start": "00:42:08", "text": "But then another conspiracy theory"}, {"end": "00:42:17", "start": "00:42:11", "text": "becomes the truth my friends"}, {"end": "00:42:20", "start": "00:42:14", "text": "and it never ends."}, {"end": "00:42:20", "start": "00:42:17", "text": "No, it never ends."}, {"end": "00:42:33", "start": "00:42:27", "text": "I fear the crap guy. I got stuck inside"}, {"end": "00:42:37", "start": "00:42:30", "text": "Mel's home with MKL truck. I feel being"}, {"end": "00:42:39", "start": "00:42:33", "text": "only true aware."}, {"end": "00:42:42", "start": "00:42:37", "text": "Did Stanley Cubrick fake the moon"}, {"end": "00:42:46", "start": "00:42:39", "text": "landing alone on a film set of the"}, {"end": "00:42:48", "start": "00:42:42", "text": "shadow people there?"}, {"end": "00:42:52", "start": "00:42:46", "text": "The Roswell aliens just fought the"}, {"end": "00:42:54", "start": "00:42:48", "text": "smiling man. I'm told"}, {"end": "00:42:57", "start": "00:42:52", "text": "and his name was cold."}, {"end": "00:43:00", "start": "00:42:54", "text": "I can't leave. I'm catching with the"}, {"end": "00:43:04", "start": "00:42:57", "text": "fish"}, {"end": "00:43:07", "start": "00:43:00", "text": "on Thursday night J"}, {"end": "00:43:07", "start": "00:43:04", "text": "through the night."}, {"end": "00:43:17", "start": "00:43:08", "text": "All I ever wanted was to be the truth."}, {"end": "00:43:17", "start": "00:43:12", "text": "One more through the night."}, {"end": "00:43:39", "start": "00:43:33", "text": "The m sidings and the solar storm still"}, {"end": "00:43:42", "start": "00:43:36", "text": "come to gather this young city"}, {"end": "00:43:42", "start": "00:43:39", "text": "underground."}, {"end": "00:43:49", "start": "00:43:43", "text": "Mysterious number stations, planet"}, {"end": "00:43:52", "start": "00:43:45", "text": "circle to project star and what the dark"}, {"end": "00:43:56", "start": "00:43:49", "text": "watchers found"}, {"end": "00:43:59", "start": "00:43:52", "text": "in a simulation. Don't you worry though"}, {"end": "00:44:03", "start": "00:43:56", "text": "the black night."}, {"end": "00:44:05", "start": "00:43:59", "text": "Oh, I can't believe I'm dancing with the"}, {"end": "00:44:10", "start": "00:44:03", "text": "fish"}, {"end": "00:44:13", "start": "00:44:05", "text": "on Thursday night when they you"}, {"end": "00:44:13", "start": "00:44:10", "text": "all through the night."}, {"end": "00:44:23", "start": "00:44:14", "text": "All I ever wanted was to hear the truth."}, {"end": "00:44:23", "start": "00:44:18", "text": "When my all through the night"}, {"end": "00:44:31", "start": "00:44:26", "text": "you"}, {"end": "00:44:31", "start": "00:44:28", "text": "all through the"}, {"end": "00:44:40", "start": "00:44:33", "text": "All I ever wanted was to give the truth."}, {"end": "00:44:40", "start": "00:44:36", "text": "One more time."}, {"end": "00:44:59", "start": "00:44:53", "text": "Girl loves to dance."}, {"end": "00:45:03", "start": "00:44:56", "text": "Your girl loves to dance on the dance"}, {"end": "00:45:07", "start": "00:44:59", "text": "floor because she is a camel. Caramel"}, {"end": "00:45:11", "start": "00:45:03", "text": "love to dance when the feeling is right"}, {"end": "00:45:11", "start": "00:45:07", "text": "in time."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "This episode of the Y Files is brought to you by PBS Debt."}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "The year was 1947. America had the bomb. The Soviets didn't. But that was about"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "to change. The next war would be nuclear. Protecting state secrets was more"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "important than ever. But President Harry S. Truman was hiding something bigger than the atomic bomb. In July, a craft"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "crashed in the New Mexico desert. The wreckage wasn't Russian and the bodies weren't human."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "Truman formed a committee of 12 men. Their job create a government within the government and use that government to"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "guard the most important discovery in human history. And for almost 40 years they did until the last one died. That's"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "when the world would finally learn about Majestic 12."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "We are the knights who say no. Good tomorrow, human. I summon thee with"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "grave urgency. Why are you talking like that? Are you hanging around the local theater again? Nay, peasant. I hath opened mine own"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "royal franchise. Lord Hecklefish's greasy pickle poke, where the pickle is in the meat and the grease is extra wet."}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "Grease pickle meat. I ye old pickle meat, grease thy meat. Human,"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "stop saying that. What is the emergency? I have a script to write. At first, the kingdom rejoiced. Peasants"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "flocked. Knights gnawed. Wenches moaned. Even the jesters were double fisting"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "turkey legs and greasy pickles. But low, I declared myself lord of the"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "fair. And with great power came great irresponsible spending. Just talk normally, please."}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "I'm in freaking debt, human. Real debt. Apparently, the old platinum scroll is tied to my actual credit cards. I I need"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "you to come down to the rent fair and throw me uh uh 1 million shillings. No way. You need a night in shining"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "armor. You need PDS debt. Oh, I see what you did there. I sure did. It starts with one miss"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "bill, then another. Suddenly, your mailbox is full of final notices. Debt collectors want your car, your home,"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "your paycheck, your peace. Debt doesn't wait. It destroys. But there's a way"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "out. PDS Debt has helped hundreds of thousands escape before it was too late. They go beyond the numbers to understand"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "your situation and create a personalized plan. And there's no minimum credit score required. PDS Debt is here to help"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "you save more, pay off debt faster, and start putting money back in your pocket. They're A+ rated by the BBB and have"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "thousands of five-star reviews on Google and Trust Pilot. Proof that PDS debt is a trusted solution for people who need"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "real help. Look, we've all been there. Debt is overwhelming. The interest piles up and you feel stuck. If you're dealing"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "with credit card debt, personal loans, medical bills, or collections, don't wait. You're 30 seconds away from being"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "debtfree. Get your free assessment and find the best option for you right now at pds debt.com/files."}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "That's pdsdebt.com/files. pdsdebt.com/files."}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "That's right. Yes. With no more debt, I can finally host the grandest of tournaments, the pickle joust."}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "I don't even want to ask. Two nights, one field, and instead of lances, they ride forth with mighty"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "pickles. I got to go, human. The wenches are oil resting in the turkey grease again. I'll"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "be right there, ladies."}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "On December 11th, 1984, a package arrived at Jamie Chandere's Hollywood"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "office. No return address, no note, just a role of 35mm film."}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "Chandere was a film producer working on a UFO documentary with researcher Bill Moore. Moore had written the Roswell"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "incident in 1980. Before his book, nobody knew the real story of Roswell. He had sources, military contacts,"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "people who leaked information, but nothing like this. Chandere called more."}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "Within an hour, they were in Chandere's bathroom. Uh, this story took a weird turn. He used his bathroom as a dark room"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "uh for developing photographs. Ah, okay. Okay. Well, we're back on track."}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "Under the eerie red light, the first image appeared. They didn't know what to expect. They certainly didn't expect to"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "see the presidential seal. Magic fetal fetus. Wrong episode. Link down in Nel's hole."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "There were a total of eight photos, all documents. The first page was labeled top secret magic eyes only. This was a"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "security classification they'd never seen before. Supposedly two levels above top secret."}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "The formatting was perfect. The type face matched 1950s government standards. The terminology was right. The dates"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "were right. And the names, those were definitely right. 12 names. A committee"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "tasked with managing the most sensitive secret in American history. Operation Majestic 12."}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "Moore recognized every name on the list. Military leaders, intelligence officers, scientists. But the last name was most"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "interesting. Dr. Jerome Huner. Huner had died 2 months ago. He was the last"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "survivor of the original Majestic 12. The timing wasn't a coincidence. Someone"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "waited until the last man was dead. After almost 40 years of secrecy, somebody wanted this exposed. Moore had"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "literally written the book on Roswell, but his information was secondhand accounts and local legends. He had no"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "hard evidence until now. The eight pages told an explosive story,"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "a UFO crash in Roswell, recovery operations, advanced technology, and"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "alien bodies. The documents proved that the US government covered it up and they"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "proved Roswell was only at the beginning."}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "Jamie Chandere and Bill Moore held proof of the biggest cover up in history. The documents detailed a secret committee"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "called Majestic 12. But the real shock was why the committee was formed."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "The main document was a briefing for President-elect Eisenhower, November 18th, 1952. The subject line, briefing"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "document, Operation Majestic 12, prepared for President-elect Eisenhower, eyes only."}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "On September 24th, 1947, Truman signed Executive Order 092447."}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "It created a special committee to handle all aspects of extraterrestrial interaction."}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "12 members, scientists, military leaders, intelligence officers, all with the highest security clearances, all"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "sworn to absolute secrecy. The committee had three purposes. Study"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "recover technology, develop strategies for future contact, and most importantly, keep the entire operation"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "hidden from the public. The committee was a response to events that began in June 1947."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "On 24th June 1947, a civilian pilot flying over the Cascade Mountains in the"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "state of Washington observed nine flying discshaped aircraft traveling in formation at a high rate of speed."}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "Although this was not the first known sighting of such objects, it was the first to gain widespread attention in"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "the public media. Though they denied it at the time, the military had been seeing a lot of these"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "objects. Hundreds of reports of sightings of similar objects followed. Many of these"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "came from highly credible military and civilian sources. These reports resulted in independent efforts by several"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "different elements of the military to ascertain the nature and purpose of these objects in the interest of"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "national defense. Witness statements were confusing. Nobody knew what these things were. Then"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "on July 7th, 1947, an object crashed in the New Mexico desert. The official"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "story, it was a weather balloon. That was a lie. The briefing described a craft of unknown origin. Metallic"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "discshaped about 30 ft wide. No visible seams or rivets. No visible propulsion"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "system made from a metal alloy they couldn't recognize. The report confirmed this was engineering beyond any country"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "on Earth. But the craft was empty. But that changed a week later when they found four bodies."}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "Aerial reconnaissance discovered that four small human-like beings had apparently ejected from the craft at"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "some point before it exploded. These had fallen to Earth about 2 mi east of the wreckage site."}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "Four bodies about 4 ft tall, humanoid, but definitely not human. Large heads,"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "no hair, gray skin. Three died on impact. The fourth survived the crash, but died shortly after. The military"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "moved fast and created the infamous cover story. A special scientific team took charge of"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "removing these bodies for study. See attachment C. The wreckage of the craft was also removed to several different"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "locations. See attachment B. Civilian and military witnesses in the area were"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "debriefed and news reporters were given the effective cover story that the object had been a misguided weather"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "research balloon. The scientific team led by Dr. of Detaf Franc called the beings extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "biological entities ebees and Roswell wasn't an isolated incident. The"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "briefing detailed a second crash. On 06 December 1950, a second object,"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "probably of similar origin, impacted the Earth at high speed in the Elindio Guerrero area of the Texas Mexican"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "border after following a long trajectory through the atmosphere. The object was almost completely"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "destroyed on impact. What remained went to the Atomic Energy Commission facility at Sandia, New Mexico. The briefing"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "included the names of all living MJ12 members, powerful figures in the military, scientific, and intelligence"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "communities. But one name seemed out of place. Dr. Donald Menzel, America's most"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "famous UFO skeptic. A man who spent his career explaining away every sighting as"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "weather balloons, swamp gas, or natural phenomena. Having the country's biggest UFO"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "debunker on the original committee proved that Operation Majestic 12 wasn't about discovery. It was about deception."}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "The MJ12 documents described a crashed UFO and four alien bodies. But the most"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "shocking part wasn't the crash. It was the cover up. One name on the committee proved the operation was designed to"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "deceive the public from the very beginning. The roster of Majestic 12 reads like a who's who of the American"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "deep state. Let's go through the names. Admiral Rosco Hilloder, Naval Intelligence First Director of the CIA,"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "designated MJ1, reported directly to the president. Admiral Sydney Sourers, Naval"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "Intelligence, First Director of Central Intelligence, later executive secretary of the National Security Council."}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "General Huy Vandenberg, chief of staff of the Air Force, oversaw air force intelligence, became the second director"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "of Central Intelligence. General Nathan Twining, chief of staff of the Air Force, commander of the Roswell"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "operation. He wrote a famous memo in 1947 saying UFOs were real. From his"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "reports came Project Sign, Project Grudge, and Project Blue Book. Secretary"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "James Forestto, first Secretary of Defense, former Secretary of the Navy. General Robert Montigue, Commander of"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "Sandia Base in Albuquerque, which created nuclear weapons. Captain Gordon Gray, National Security Adviser under"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "Eisenhower, Secretary of the Army, helped manage nuclear weapons policy. Then the scientists, Dr. Vanavar Bush,"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "head of the Office of Scientific Research and Development during World War II, architect of the Manhattan"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "Project. Dr. Detlev Bronc, biophysicist, future president of the National Academy"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "of Sciences, specialized in aviation medicine in charge of non-human biological entities. Dr. Dr. Lloyd"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "Burkner, physicist and engineer specializing in radio atmospheric studies and space science. Dr. Jerome"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "Huner, aeronautical engineer, chairman of the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics, which became NASA. These"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "were the men who built America's nuclear secrets. But among them was one name that didn't fit, Dr. Donald Menzel."}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "Menzel was a respected Harvard astronomer. He was also America's most famous, most vocal UFO debunker. He"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "wrote books explaining away every sighting as weather balloons, swamp gas, miragages, all kinds of natural"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "phenomena. Having such a well-known skeptic on a UFO committee made no sense unless his public role was a cover"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "story. Dig a little deeper and you realize Menzel was living a double life. He had a 30-year association with the"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "NSA. He had top secret ultra clearance with the CIA. Top secret ultra clearance. Uh what's"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "next? super duper premium platinum pinky square clearance. Between 1947 and 1948, right after the"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "crash, Menzel made several trips to New Mexico, all paid for by the US government. In public, Menzel was a"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "skeptic. In private, he was an asset. Harvard University has been taking"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "photographs of the sky since 1882. The images are stored on photographic plates. By 1952, Harvard had 500,000"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "plates. Many contained images that would be inconvenient for the government. So"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "they had to be destroyed. Onethird of the plate collection"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "destroyed by the new incoming director of the Harvard Observatory. And that man was do you give his name or shall I?"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "I think you should do it. That man was is Dr. Donald Menzel."}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "Dr. Menzel destroyed 150,000 priceless photographic plates, images of Mars, the"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "moon, the entire sky. Not only that, he prevented Harvard from taking any additional photographs during his"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "tenure, 15 years. Seemensel comes in in September October 1952"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "but began destroying"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "uh a certain amount of this priceless collection of astronomical data"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "and and also he prevented Harvard from collecting new astronomical data for a"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "certain number of years and this is known among your colleagues as the menel gap. Is that correct? Uh yes, the survey"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "that was there like the old sky survey was halted for 15 years. Ah, so following the science means"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "destroying evidence. Uh there's a lot of that going around these days. But Menzel wasn't the only member with a"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "complicated story. James Foresttol was openly critical of government corruption and lack of transparency. A man with a"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "conscience isn't suited for a seat at the most secret table in the world. For MJ12, Foresttoall was a problem. To"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "solve it, all they needed was a little gravity. Oh no."}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "James Vincent Forestto didn't come from old money or privilege. He clawed his way up from newspaper reporter to Wall"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "Street millionaire. By age 40, he was president of the powerhouse investment firm Dylan Reed & Company. When World"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "War II broke out, he walked away from finance to serve his country. Roosevelt made him under secretary of the navy,"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "then secretary of the navy, and finally first secretary of defense. Forestall oversaw the transition from wartime"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "America into the cold war superpower. His rags to rich's story was the American dream, but he was a nightmare"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "for the Washington establishment. Forestall was openly critical of Truman's policies, nuclear disarmament,"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "joining NATO. Foresttol argued that recognizing the new state of Israel too soon would inflame the Arab world,"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "threatening US oil security. Critics accused Foresttol of being anti-Semitic, but the record shows his"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "arguments were strategic, not religious or ethnic. He wanted Israel to be under UN control until tempers in the region"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "cooled down. He also believed America was being hollowed out from within. He warned that communists had infiltrated"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "the government, the media, and the military. While the US was disarming, Moscow was embedding agents at the"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "highest levels of American life. Uh, he was right about that. He was. Congressional hearings would"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "later prove that Soviet spy rings really had penetrated Washington. But when Forestall said it, he was branded"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "paranoid. It was a media smear campaign. Journalists who once praised him painted"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "him as unstable. Communists accused him of imagining reds under every bed."}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "Cartoonists mocked him as a wildeyed conspiracy theorist. Inside the White House, Truman's circle spread the idea"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "that Foresttol was cracking under pressure. They circulated rumors about his"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "drinking, about his memory. But Foresttol wasn't drunk or scenile. He was filling thousands of pages in his"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "diaries, working 15-our days. He was independent, wealthy, and wasn't afraid to speak truth to power. Foresttol"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "couldn't be controlled. That made him dangerous. By March 1949, the pressure campaign"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "worked. Foresttol was forced to resign as secretary of defense. Within days, he was checked into Bethesda Naval Hospital"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "for rest. But that rest looked more like confinement. Visitors were restricted."}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "His priest tried seven times to see him, blocked every time. His brother Henry begged to bring him home. Even Foresttol"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "wrote letters saying he was fine and wanted to leave. The Navy kept him inside. 7 weeks later, he was dead."}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "At 1:50 a.m. on May 22nd, 1949, a nurse heard a crash outside. Forestall's body"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "was found on a thirdf flooror ledge 13 stories below his window. The belt of his bathrobe was tied around his neck."}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "The hospital declared it a suicide within hours. No autopsy, no investigation. The coroner rubber"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "stamped the report without inspecting the body. Reporters were told Forestall had been copying lines from a tragic"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "play as a suicide note, but the lines were unfinished mid-sentence, as if he"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "was interrupted. Now, let me guess, the video wasn't working that night. Uh, they didn't have video back then."}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "Yeah, likely story. Forestall's brother, Henry, called it murder. Navy officials ordered personnel"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "to stay silent. They even classified the number of windows in his room as top secret. Forestall's diaries were seized"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "immediately. Thousands of pages of meetings, conversations, personal reflections. When they were finally"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "released two years later, entire sections were missing. His family believed the censored passages contain"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "secrets that powerful people wanted buried. Instead, Forestall was buried. History seems to repeat itself, don't"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "it? It does. Some believe Forestall was going to go public about UFOs. He felt"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "Americans deserve to know the truth about extraterrestrial contact. But the message was clear. Silence wasn't"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "optional. For years, the trail stayed cold. Then, a postcard arrived from New Zealand with a return address in"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "Ethiopia."}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "With James Forest all dead, the MJ12 secret was safe for years. But in early 1985, a mysterious postcard arrived at"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "Bill Moore's home, about to blow the case wide open. The postmark was from New Zealand. The"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "return address was from a post office box in Adisababa, Ethiopia. Moore didn't know anyone in New Zealand or Ethiopia."}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "When doors won't open, search for Windows. Add some zest to your trip to Washington. Try Reese's Pieces. For a"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "stylish look, shop Suit Land. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I hope they paid for all those product"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "placements in this video. The message on the card was a riddle. Yeah, that makes more sense."}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "Someone was following the investigation and knew it had stalled. Moore called Jamie Chandere and their new teammate,"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "nuclear physicist Stanton Friedman. Freriedman had worked on classified nuclear aircraft programs for companies"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "like General Electric. He approached the documents like a scientist and helped them crack the code. They worked"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "backwards. For a stylish look, shop Suitland. Suitand wasn't a clothing store. It was Sutland, Maryland, home of"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "the National Archives that unlocked the other clue, Reese's Pieces."}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "At first, they thought it had something to do with extraterrestrials. After all, they were ET's favorite candy. But"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "Freeman Bonu and Ed Ree, who worked at the National Archives in the military records branch. Reese's pieces weren't"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "candy. They were documents. The postcard was telling them exactly where to go and who to see."}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "3 days later, Moore and Chandere were in the massive archives building in Sutland. They were still facing millions"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "of documents with no idea where to start. Then Moore looked at the postcard again. The return address, PO Box 189,"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "box 189. Chandere approached the reference desk."}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "They were looking for box 189, record group 341, Air Force Records. The"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "archist checked the computer. The box had last been accessed in September 1984, just 2 weeks after Jerome Huner's"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "death, about the same time Chandere received the Majestic 12 documents. Yeah, see, this is like some UFO"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "scavenger hunt. I like midnight madness, fagger beefy. I know the movie. Do you want to know"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "what they found in the box? What's in the box? Okay, I'm done. I'm done. Really?"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "Really? Seriously. Uh, what's in the box? Inside, bag of beefy."}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "Inside were dozens of folders filled with routine Air Force business from the 1950s. Then Chandere found it. A single"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "sheet of paper tucked between budget reports. The header read, \"Top secret restricted information.\" A memorandum"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "from General Twining signed by Robert Cutler, President Eisenhower's special assistant."}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "The president has decided that the MJ12 SSP briefing should take place during"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "the already scheduled White House meeting of July 16th."}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "This was it. The smoking gun, an official government document referencing MJ12 filed in the National Archives. It"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "was the final piece they needed to solve the Majestic 12 puzzle. But more Chandere Freriedman weren't exposing a"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "secret government program. They were being manipulated by one."}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "Moore, Chandere, and Freriedman thought they had found their smoking gun. The Cutler Twining memo seemed to be the"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "proof they needed, but they didn't realize they were pawns in a much larger game. The clue was on that first"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "envelope that contained the film. It was postmarked Albuquerque, New Mexico. Kirtland Air Force Base is in"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "Albuquerque. That's where the game was being played. And the man in charge was Richard Dodie. Dodie was a special agent"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "for AFOSI, the Air Force Office of Special Investigations. His job was to"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "spread disinformation in the UFO community. And he was very good at it."}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "I was always connected to UFOs and to disinformation. Although"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "um in actuality in within the government, we don't call it disinformation. We call it deception"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "operations. Dod's most notorious target was physicist Paul Benowitz. Benowitz"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "believed he was intercepting alien communications near Kirtland. Instead of dismissing him, Dodie fed him false"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "documents and encouraged his theories. Eventually, Paul Benowitz had a complete mental breakdown. We did a whole episode"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "on this a couple years ago. Link down in your Venus fly trip. We don't want him to go out to the"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "public and go on camera and say, \"Hey, I just tapped into a secret laser on"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "Kirtland Air Force Base.\" Obviously, we can't have that happen. So, all I had to do was say, \"Well, you know what, P?"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "Maybe what you did see was UFOs.\" Dodie wasn't just targeting civilians."}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "He also manipulated Emmy-winning documentary filmmaker Linda Molton How. She was working on a UFO special for"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "HBO. Dodie promised her footage of crashed UFOs and alien bodies."}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "She also had contacts within the government. Mhm. We wanted to know who those contacts"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "were. So we set up an operation. We didn't. I didn't."}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "The government did. Where I would bring, she was coming to Albuquerque, New Mexico. So everything was set up for me"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "to contact her, bring her in to the OSI office. Mhm. I show her a document that came from"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "headquarters and try to convince her to work for us."}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "This was a specific government operation designed to prevent free speech. The goal was to stop the HBO documentary."}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "And if they destroyed Linda's reputation in the process, even better. I'm going to do this HBO documentary. I"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "just She was trying to confirm all the information is what it sounded like. So, you were tasked with basically putting a"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "kibos on that documentary. Yeah, that was Operation Kenaw. Uh, I interviewed"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "her and, you know, showed her the documents and so forth, providing her with something that was detrimental to"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "uh, HBO, other OSI agent provided her with small film clips."}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "Was it real or fake? It was it was fake. It discredited her and therefore they she lost that"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "contract. The project was cancelled and Linda's reputation as a mainstream filmmaker was"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "damaged. This was how the game was played. Promise evidence, build trust, then pull the rug out."}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "They're working for my government. They're working for in agencies"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "of the government that is supposed to be protecting of the people, by the people,"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "for the people. How did it all turn upside down?"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "HBO cancelled a show because of Dodie? Yep. I wish Dodie was around for the last season of Game of Thrones."}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "In June 1989, the UFO community gathered in Las Vegas for the annual MUN conference. Bill Moore was scheduled to"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "speak. Moore was now a hero for his work on the MJ12 documents. The room was packed. The last thing anyone expected"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "to hear was a confession. Bill Moore may be the most trusted UFO researcher in"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "the world was a government asset. His handler was Richard Dodie. They had an"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "arrangement. Dodie would provide more with confidential information about UFOs. Moore would report on the"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "activities of people like Paul Benowitz and others in the UFO community. And it was Richard Dodie, then with"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "AFOSI at Kirtland Air Force Base, who soon came into play as the middleman in that process."}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "Shortly thereafter, it became apparent to me that my supplying information to the government"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "through Dodie on the activities of Paul Benowitz Appro and to a lesser extent several"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "other individuals was to be a part of this equation. Not only did Moore spread government"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "disinformation, but he would also report back on how well the lies performed."}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "the entire story of a secret treaty between the US government and the aliens, of exchanges of technology"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "between us and the aliens, of battles between aliens and American armed forces, and of aliens allegedly having"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "implanted hundreds of thousands if not millions of human beings for that for the purpose of taking over the world and"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "using us as cattle or slaves came about as a result of the disinformation"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "process. I know because I was in a position to observe much of this process as it"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "unfolded and I was providing regular regular reports on its effectiveness to"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "some of the very people who were doing it to Paul. I recruited Bill Moore. I recruited him"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "to be a spy within the UFO community. The room erupted. Researchers who"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "trusted him felt betrayed. The man who brought the MJ12 documents to the world had just admitted he was a government"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "operative. His career was over. He was booed off the stage. Moore's confession cast a shadow over everything. Were the"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "MJ documents just another part of the game? A sophisticated piece of disinformation"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "regarding the MJ12 documents that were released to Jamie Shinder or Bill Moore. I had absolutely nothing to do with"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "that. We coordinated had liaison with him but all these other copies spread out"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "around of course the internet wasn't in existence back then but u and that's how the MJ2 documents I would say that some"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "of the information was factual and a lot of it wasn't. There were some investigations conducted by FBI u OSI um"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "regarding the MJ12 documents, extensive investigation just to determine whether these things were legitimate, whether"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "they contained classified information and then who released them. So the names"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "of the members of the MJ12 group were not officially known to us. A lot of the"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "information, not all the particular details, but the lot of the information is factual."}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "Who's controlling the release of information. There's a group out there that that that is. I can guarantee you"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "that there is. Now, the NJ12 documents entirely different."}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "Those things surfaced um through a guy by the name of Jamie Shander."}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "Uh, he got them. Um, I'm sure and almost convinced"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "that that was part of another operation. The MJ12, are they are they MJ12? Where"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "where did they come from? Who who makes up the MJ12? What's their names today?"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "as it the Zodiac or Zenith group or in 1987."}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "Uh I was investigated by the FBI for the MJ12 documents. Uh they claimed the UFO"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "researchers claimed I released them, I created them. And we also wanted to form"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "an alliance with the MJ12 group. Uh working either alongside him or"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "working with him. I have no connections, official connections with the United"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "States government or intelligence community. Those documents were were created based on actual documents. So, you have to"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "give them a little bit of real information before you throw in the uh"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "the uh disinformation and then you add more and more and more"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "and that person opens their mind up and says, \"You know what? I think this is all real."}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "Everything about MJ12 was now thrown into doubt. The documents were scrutinized. Believers became skeptics."}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "The story was pushed to the fringe. But in 1994, another Majestic 12 document"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "was found. And this was so detailed it was almost impossible to deny."}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "William Moore's confession had shattered the UFO community. The MJ12 documents, once seen as the Holy Grail, were now"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "tainted by disinformation. And Richard Dod's fingerprints were all over it. These fingerprints were all the taint."}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "Stop that. Yeah. Researchers were divided. Then in 1994, 10 years after the first package"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "arrived, another roll of film was sent. This time, the recipient was Don Berliner, a respected aviation"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "journalist. The film wasn't a memo or a briefing. It was a field guide. The"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "cover read Majestic 12 Group Special Operations Manual with a subtitle"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "Extraterrestrial Entities and Technology Recovery and Disposal. It was dated"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "April 1954 and marked top secret magic eyes only."}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "For researchers, this was the Rosetta Stone, a step-by-step guide for managing an alien presence on Earth. The level of"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "detail was staggering. It provided instructions for establishing a secure perimeter around a crash site. It"}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "outlined protocols for handling various types of alien technology. Craft are to be approached with extreme"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "caution if they appear functional as serious injury may result from exposure to radiation and electrical discharges."}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "If the craft is functioning but appears to be abandoned, it may be approached only by specially trained MJ12 red team"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "personnel wearing protective clothing. Complete craft and parts of crafts too"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "large to be transported by covered transport will be disassembled. If they must be transported whole or on open"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "flatbed trailers, they will be covered in such a manner as to camouflage their shape."}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "The guide specified packaging and shipping procedures, press blackouts, how to issue deceptive statements to the"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "media, how to discredit witnesses, and communication protocols to follow if live contact was established."}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "In dealing with any living extraterrestrial biological entity, security is of paramount importance. All"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "other considerations are secondary. Although it is preferable to maintain the physical well-being of any entity,"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "the loss of EBE life is considered acceptable if conditions or delays to preserve that life in any way"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "compromises the security of the operations. Remains will be preserved against further decomposition as"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "equipment and conditions permit. Cadaavvers and remains will be bagged or securely wrapped in waterproof"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "coverings. Remains will be refrigerated or packed with ice if available."}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "The manual described four types of alien craft in precise detail. Discs between 50 and 300 ft wide, cigar- shaped"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "vessels over 2,000 ft long, cone and triangle-shaped craft. It also"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "categorized two different types of EBEs. Type 1 entities were humanoid, about 5t"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "tall with pale yellow skin. Type two were 3 to four feet tall with large elongated heads with big slanted eyes"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "that were pure black, pale skin, three long fingers, and a thumb. We know them"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "as the grays. It is not definitely known where either"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "type of creature originates, but it seems certain that they did not evolve on Earth. It is further evident,"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:37", "text": "although not certain, that they may have originated on two different planets."}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "The manual was clinical and professional, exactly what you'd expect from a military field guide. It answered"}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "every question critics raised about earlier MJ12 documents, almost as if someone was paying attention and"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "responding to skeptics. And maybe somebody was. Page two identified the source of the document. Kirtland Air"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "Force Base, Albuquerque, New Mexico. Headquarters of OSI agent Richard Dodie."}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "Researchers found what looked like top secret documents proving a UFO coverup. They followed a paper trail to a smoking"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "gun in the National Archives. But the investigation collapsed when one of their own confessed to being a"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "government disinformation agent. But are the Majestic 12 documents real? Well, let's break it down. The case for a hoax"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "is overwhelming. William Moore, the man at the center of the discovery, publicly admitted to working with Air Force"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "intelligence to spread this information. The documents were mailed to him and Jamie Chandere with no chain of custody."}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "Later, they found the Cutler Twining memo in the National Archives. Skeptics say they planted it there, which I"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "believe they did. The documents themselves are full of problems. The Cutler Twining memo was signed by Robert"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:59", "text": "Cutler on a date he wasn't in the country. Other documents use a strange date format that isn't used by the"}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "military or civilians, like putting 06 instead of just six for the day of the month. The type faces are a little wrong"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "for the early 1950s. There are formatting errors, misspellings, and terminology problems like using the word"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "media instead of the press, which was much more common. There are references to buildings that didn't exist yet. The"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "documents were missing proper top secret control numbers. President Truman's signature was obviously copied from"}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "another document. So, is it a hoax? Well, not so fast. The film containing"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "the special operations manual was authenticated as 1950s era Trix stock."}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "Forensic analysis of the typography showed a raised letter Z. This was an artifact of a 1954 hot lead printing"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "press. That's a nice detail. The language is correct. terms like craft"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:57", "text": "tape instead of duct tape and the official 1950s postal abbreviation for New Mexico NMEX. It was perfect almost."}, {"start": "00:37:57", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "The font and use of bold section headers are inconsistent with DoD field manuals."}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "It refers to Area 51. Area 51 wasn't publicly acknowledged until 2013."}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "Besides, the military didn't call it Area 51. That was a CIA designation. The manual outlines procedures for satellite"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:23", "text": "recovery, but this is supposed to be from 1954. Sputnik wasn't launched until 1957, and it caught America by surprise."}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "Still, there are coincidences that are hard to dismiss. President Truman really did meet with Bush and Forestall on the"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:36", "text": "exact day the MJ12 order was supposedly signed. General Twining's flight logs really do place him in New Mexico right"}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "after the crash, and Dr. Menzel really did have top secret ultra clearance with the CIA. So what's going on? Are the"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "documents fake or real? Well, the answer is yes."}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "All roads lead back to Kirtland Air Force Base, the Office of Special Investigations, and Richard Dodie. This"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:03", "text": "wasn't a random hoax. It was a coordinated psychological operation. The goal was to fool the public and control"}, {"start": "00:39:03", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "the researchers. By feeding them a mix of fake and real information, they waste time following false leads. They waste"}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:15", "text": "time studying fictional details, and they waste time arguing with each other about who was or wasn't an intelligence"}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "asset. If anyone got too close to an actual secret, the intelligence community would steer the narrative and"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "discredit them. Smear campaigns were effective. Pushing people out of windows works, too."}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "It sure does. I think the truth about Majestic 12 is more mundane. The documents were designed to confuse"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:39", "text": "researchers while the military tested special equipment and operated black projects in the desert. Are they testing"}, {"start": "00:39:39", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "reverse engineered alien craft? Probably, though it's probably not what we think. Do I believe an organization"}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "operating outside the government is controlling the UFO narrative? Absolutely I do. This rabbit hole goes"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "even deeper, which is why this is only volume one of the series of Majestic 12 episodes. The documents are forgeries,"}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "but they're really good forgeries. Dod's become the face of UFO disinformation, but he was just one small piece of a"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "very large, very wellfunded machine. Dod himself said the documents weren't real, but a lot of the information in them is."}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "He's careful about how he words that. The real conspiracy is that the techniques perfected on UFO researchers"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:25", "text": "in the 1980s are now being used on all of us every single day."}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "Are the current whistleblowers telling the truth? I doubt it. I don't trust people from Air Force intelligence with"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "active security clearances giving statements approved by the Pentagon, all while getting paid by the US government."}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "And I become really skeptical when you release a book. There's always a book. But I could be wrong. When I publicly"}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:50", "text": "denounce the whistleblowers, half my audience cheers and the other half boos. We're divided. As I'm writing this,"}, {"start": "00:40:50", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "people are debating whether the Tic Tac UFO is a Lockheed project. They're divided and distracted. And that's the"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:03", "text": "point. The weaponization of truth didn't end with Majestic 12. That's when it began. It was a field test. In an age of"}, {"start": "00:41:03", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "social media and information warfare, we are all Paul Benowitz now. We're constantly targeted, manipulated, and"}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "fed a version of reality designed to keep us confused and divided. But don't let them win. We'll only learn the truth"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "when we're focused and united. We have to apply pressure on our elected officials. We need them to be afraid. We"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "need them to know that if you lie to us, you're fired. Also, if you do nothing, you're fired. Every election cycle, we"}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:37", "text": "need to hold them accountable. If they fail, we go to the ballot box and drop a hammer on them. Then we bring in"}, {"start": "00:41:37", "end": "00:41:43", "text": "somebody else to get the job done. If they fail, drop the hammer again and again and again. We need to be as"}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "relentless as they are. We're outgunned. They have all the tools of the state at their disposal. All we have is a hammer."}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:56", "text": "But you know what they say when all you have is a hammer. Well, when I look at Capitol Hill, I see a whole bunch of"}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "nails."}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "Thank you so much for hanging out today. My name is AJ. There's Hagglefish. Shaggy Beefy. This has been the Live Files. If you had"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:15", "text": "fun or learned anything, I'd really appreciate it if you subscribe, like, comment, share. That stuff helps the"}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "channel, I think. Like most topics we cover on the channel, today's is recommended by you by thousands of you."}, {"start": "00:42:22", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "If there's a story you'd like to see or learn more about, go to the wfiles.com/tips. And there are more majestic 12 episodes"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:34", "text": "coming. You are not going to believe this rabbit hole. Now remember, the Walls is also a podcast. You can take us"}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": "00:42:40", "text": "on the road. Twice a week. I post deep dives into the stories we cover on the channel. I also post episodes that wouldn't be allowed on the channel."}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "Those are labeled redacted. It's called The W Files Operation Podcast, and it's available everywhere you get your"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:51", "text": "podcasts. And if you're listening, do us a favor and hit whatever button you need to hit. That stuff really does help on"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "the podcast platforms. Now, if you need more Walls in your life, see a doctor. No, no, no. Check out our Discord. There"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "are thousands of people on there 24/7. They're into the same weird stuff we are. They're always talking about these"}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "crazy topics. It's a great community. It's really supportive. It's a lot of fun and it's free to join. And speaking"}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:15", "text": "of 24/7, make sure you check out our 24/7 stream on the Wii Files backstage."}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "Over there, we run episodes back to back with some fun content in between. Actually, the live chat is more"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "entertaining than the videos. Now, if you want to know what's going on with Y Files, check out our production calendar. It's the wifiles.com/cow."}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "There we post our episode schedule, upcoming podcast, live streams, all that stuff. Special thanks to our patrons who"}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "made this channel possible and made this episode happen. Every episode of the Wild Files is dedicated to our Patreon"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:44", "text": "members. I couldn't do this without you, and I thank you for sticking with me this long. And if you'd like to keep us"}, {"start": "00:43:44", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "going, support the channel, consider becoming a member on Patreon. For as little as three bucks a month, you get access to perks like videos early with"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "no commercials, exclusive merch only available to members, plus two private live streams every week just for you."}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:03", "text": "And the whole Wiles team is on the stream, and you can turn your webcam on, jump up on stage, tell a joke, ask a"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "question, discuss a topic, whatever you want to do. It's a great way to get to know us as people. I think it's the best"}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "perk there is. Another great way to support the channel is grab something from the Wi-Fi store. a heck of a t-shirt. One of these fistable coffee"}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:21", "text": "mugs that you could stick your your top secret fist in or your fin or whatever you got hanging off your off your torso."}, {"start": "00:44:21", "end": "00:44:27", "text": "That's none of my concern. What you do with your fist? Oh, grab a hoodie or something my face on it or get a one of"}, {"start": "00:44:27", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "these weird YouTube styles. I think we still have those in stock. I got I got to check with Victoria. Oh, grab a"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:39", "text": "squeezy animal heckle tucking dollish. But if you're going to buy merch, make sure you become a member on YouTube."}, {"start": "00:44:39", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "YouTube members get 10% off everything on the Lifile store forever. You get a new code every month and it only costs"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:50", "text": "three bucks. So if you're going to spend $40 on t-shirts, get the code and it pays for itself. And then if you want to"}, {"start": "00:44:50", "end": "00:44:56", "text": "cancel, you can cancel. It's not a way for me to make money. The membership is a way for you to make money. Besides,"}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "all that money goes to my great team. Yeah. But keep that secret under your tin foil head, would you? Those are the plugs. They get longer"}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "every week. Anyway, that's going to do it. Until next time, be safe, be kind, and know that you are appreciated."}, {"start": "00:45:25", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "I play in Area 51. A secret code inside"}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:38", "text": "the Bible said I would. I love my UFOs and paranormal fun as"}, {"start": "00:45:38", "end": "00:45:44", "text": "well as music. So singing like I should"}, {"start": "00:45:44", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "then another conspiracy theory becomes the truth my friends"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:56", "text": "and it never ends. No it never ends."}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:09", "text": "I feel the crap. I got stuck inside Mel's hole with MK outra being only"}, {"start": "00:46:09", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "true. Did Stanley Cubrick fake the moon"}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:21", "text": "landing alone on a film set? I would shadow people there."}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:27", "text": "The Roswell just bought the smiling man. I'm told"}, {"start": "00:46:27", "end": "00:46:34", "text": "and his name was cold. And I can't agree. I'm dancing with the fish and"}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:43", "text": "your fish on Thursday night and all through the night."}, {"start": "00:46:44", "end": "00:46:49", "text": "All I ever wanted was to hear the truth. The world"}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:52", "text": "through the night."}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:15", "text": "The Men sightings and the solar storm still come to a god. The secret city"}, {"start": "00:47:15", "end": "00:47:20", "text": "underground. Mysterious number stations. Planet"}, {"start": "00:47:20", "end": "00:47:28", "text": "Circle to Project Stargate. And where the dark watchers found"}, {"start": "00:47:28", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "in a simulation. Don't you worry though. The black night satellite. It's over."}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:41", "text": "Oh, I can't believe I'm dancing with the fish"}, {"start": "00:47:41", "end": "00:47:49", "text": "on Thursday night and my family all through the night."}, {"start": "00:47:49", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "All I ever wanted was to hear the truth. My all through the night"}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "when they change you all through the night."}, {"start": "00:48:08", "end": "00:48:16", "text": "All I ever wanted was to be the truth. The world beauty"}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:35", "text": "loves to dance. Girl loves to dance on the dance floor"}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:42", "text": "because she is a camel. Can't love the dance when the feeling is right on"}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:46", "text": "wasting time."}]

[{"end": "00:00:05", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "This episode of the Y Files is brought"}, {"end": "00:00:08", "start": "00:00:02", "text": "to you by ground news. Hey, thanks for"}, {"end": "00:00:09", "start": "00:00:05", "text": "checking out a compilation and today's"}, {"end": "00:00:13", "start": "00:00:08", "text": "is going to be a doozy. I think it's"}, {"end": "00:00:17", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "going to run over 5 hours. So, either"}, {"end": "00:00:20", "start": "00:00:13", "text": "you're welcome or I'm sorry. First,"}, {"end": "00:00:22", "start": "00:00:17", "text": ">> human, thank Neptune you answered. The"}, {"end": "00:00:24", "start": "00:00:20", "text": "lobster flies at midnight."}, {"end": "00:00:26", "start": "00:00:22", "text": ">> What lobster? And it's 3:00 in the"}, {"end": "00:00:29", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "afternoon and you're late again."}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:26", "text": ">> That's code, you amateur. It means I"}, {"end": "00:00:32", "start": "00:00:29", "text": "need help. My safe house has been"}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "compromised by enemy agents."}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:32", "text": ">> What agents?"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:34", "text": ">> The mailman. He's been casing my joint"}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "for weeks. No one needs that many"}, {"end": "00:00:42", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "packages delivered. I think he's"}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "building a profile."}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:42", "text": ">> You know I'm recording this, right?"}, {"end": "00:00:45", "start": "00:00:43", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:44", "text": ">> And I can literally see your address on"}, {"end": "00:00:49", "start": "00:00:45", "text": "a box behind you, which is a problem"}, {"end": "00:00:53", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "because it's my address, too."}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:49", "text": ">> Wait, what? Oh. Oh. Oh, that's a that's"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:53", "text": "a decoy address."}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "You hear that? They're coming. The jig"}, {"end": "00:01:02", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "is up. The goose is cooked. The fish is"}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:01:01", "text": "fried."}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:02", "text": ">> That's That's just an ambulance."}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:05", "text": ">> That's what they want you to think."}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:07", "text": "Initiating protocol. Moist beaver."}, {"end": "00:01:13", "start": "00:01:10", "text": ">> I don't know what that means, but please"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "don't ever say that again."}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:13", "text": ">> No time for chitchat. I got to go."}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:16", "text": ">> All right. First episode is Was that bit"}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "too long? I felt like I ran kind of"}, {"end": "00:01:27", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "long. First episode is Charles Hall and"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "the tall white aliens."}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:27", "text": "Human,"}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:35", "text": "quick. Where does your wife keep a"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "sewing machine?"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:38", "text": ">> You're supposed to be on your way. We're"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "recording in 30 minutes."}, {"end": "00:01:46", "start": "00:01:42", "text": ">> Well, I just got stung by a wasp, so I'm"}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "on somewhat of a time crunch to make a"}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:46", "text": "super suit. Something flexible, form"}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "fitting, resistant to laser vision. And"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "I'm thinking some extra armor around the"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "goldfish piece. I got to protect the"}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "family jewels, you know. Uh, no. This"}, {"end": "00:02:02", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "isn't about that article about"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "radioactive wasps, is it?"}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:02:02", "text": ">> Of course it is."}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:03", "text": ">> Radioactive wasps discovered at a"}, {"end": "00:02:11", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "nuclear site. Human, that's not a"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "headline. That's an invitation. You get"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "stung by a regular wasp, you get eyes,"}, {"end": "00:02:17", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "you get stung by a radioactive wasp, you"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "get power."}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:17", "text": ">> Uh, and uh, at what powers are you"}, {"end": "00:02:22", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "expecting?"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:20", "text": ">> Uh, bare minimum enhanced reflexes,"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "maybe a retractable spine blade. Uh, but"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "if the sting hits just right, I'm"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "talking flight, invisibility, war"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "crawling, the full mutation buffet."}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:32", "text": ">> Okay, so you got stung once and now you"}, {"end": "00:02:39", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "think you're turning into a superhero."}, {"end": "00:02:41", "start": "00:02:36", "text": ">> I know I am. That's why I need the suit."}, {"end": "00:02:43", "start": "00:02:39", "text": "I can't be out here fighting crime and"}, {"end": "00:02:46", "start": "00:02:41", "text": "just my fins. I need something iconic."}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:43", "text": ">> You need ground news. It lets you see"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:46", "text": "how the same story is reported from the"}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "left, the right, and the center so you"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "get the whole picture."}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:51", "text": ">> Oh, did you just gamma blast me into"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "today's sponsor? As a matter of fact, I"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "did."}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "Ground News is an app and website"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:02:59", "text": "designed to change how we stay informed,"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "cutting through spin by showing how"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "different outlets cover the same stories"}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "side by side. It's built for skeptics"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "and truth seekers alike. Take the"}, {"end": "00:03:15", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "radioactive wasp nest story. I looked it"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "up on ground news and found over 140"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "articles. Each one framed it"}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "differently. Some made jokes, others"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "warned of safety risks. One focused on"}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "environmental concerns. Another said"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "there was no danger. Ground News puts"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "all these takes side by side, left,"}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "center, and right, so you can sort fact"}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "from fear without getting stung by the"}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "spin. And their blind spot feed reveals"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "stories the other side isn't covering."}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "You'd be surprised how much gets left"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "out. That's what makes it one of the"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "easiest ways to pop your media bubble"}, {"end": "00:03:45", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "and see what you've been missing. Ground"}, {"end": "00:03:47", "start": "00:03:43", "text": "News even allows you to follow your"}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:45", "text": "favorite topics so you can track the"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:47", "text": "stories you care about, never missing"}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "the buried details. For a limited time,"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "you can try their Vantage plan for 40%"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "off when you use my link ground."}, {"end": "00:04:03", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "Or scan the QR code on the screen."}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:04:00", "text": ">> 40% off when I go to ground."}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:04:03", "text": "Files."}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:04", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:05", "text": ">> Well, thanks for crushing my dreams,"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "human."}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:07", "text": ">> Well, I assumed you were already"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "radioactive. You're a goldfish that"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "talks."}, {"end": "00:04:15", "start": "00:04:10", "text": ">> Well, that explains why my scales are so"}, {"end": "00:04:18", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "itchy. These red blotches mean I'm"}, {"end": "00:04:20", "start": "00:04:15", "text": "entering stage two. If I start glowing,"}, {"end": "00:04:23", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "call Marvel. They need all the help they"}, {"end": "00:04:26", "start": "00:04:20", "text": "can get."}, {"end": "00:04:26", "start": "00:04:23", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:27", "text": ">> The hair on the back of the cook's neck"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "stood up. It felt like he was being"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "watched. He turned around. Nothing. It"}, {"end": "00:04:38", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "was Nellis Air Force Base in the middle"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "of the night. The messaul was empty. All"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "the men were asleep in the barracks. The"}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "only people awake were him and a couple"}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "of guards at the front gate. The only"}, {"end": "00:04:48", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "reason he was up was to grab a little"}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "extra chow. One of the perks of being a"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:48", "text": "cook, you get the keys to the kitchen."}, {"end": "00:04:55", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "Then he heard rustling. He turned and"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "something flashed in the corner of his"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:55", "text": "eye. Something small and white and it"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "moved fast. A door quietly squealled"}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "open. Then he heard steps running into"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "the desert. He caught glimpses of"}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "something white darting through the"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "brush. He thought it was too big to be a"}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "rat, but maybe a coyote. He wasn't sure."}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "Whatever it was, he didn't want it"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "rooting around his kitchen. He picked up"}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "a rock and threw it toward the noise."}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "Then he heard a whimper. As he reached"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "his arm back for another throw, he felt"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "a hot pain shoot through his body. He"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "dropped the rock. He was paralyzed by"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "pain and by fear. Then he heard a"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "woman's voice from inside his own mind."}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "She said, \"Stop or die.\" The pain"}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "dissipated. As soon as he could move, he"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "bolted back inside the kitchen. He"}, {"end": "00:05:46", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "locked the door behind him, terrified."}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "He had no idea where the voice came"}, {"end": "00:05:52", "start": "00:05:46", "text": "from, but he knew one thing for sure. It"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "wasn't human."}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:06:00", "text": ">> Did you meet the extraterrestrials or"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "merely see them?"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:03", "text": ">> Oh, I met them many times as I described"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "in my books."}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:07", "text": ">> Um, although I never went looking for"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "them, they were always happy to come"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "looking for me."}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "It was March 1965 when Charles Hall"}, {"end": "00:06:25", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "arrived at Nellis Air Force Base in the"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "Nevada desert. He was fresh out of basic"}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:25", "text": "and excited to see his new post. When"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "the Air Force tested Charles, he showed"}, {"end": "00:06:34", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "an aptitude for math and science. After"}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "graduating top of his class, he thought"}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:34", "text": "he could choose his own post, but he was"}, {"end": "00:06:43", "start": "00:06:37", "text": "specifically sent to Nellis."}, {"end": "00:06:45", "start": "00:06:39", "text": ">> Area 51. Well, Area 51 is officially a"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:43", "text": "detachment of Edwards Air Force Base,"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:45", "text": "but yes, it's in the same area."}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "Charles was trained as a weather"}, {"end": "00:06:54", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "observer. His job was to travel around"}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "the base taking readings. Most men would"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:54", "text": "be bored to tears with this assignment,"}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "but Charles didn't mind. He'd get his"}, {"end": "00:07:03", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "own truck, extra pay, no officers"}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "breathing down his neck, and he liked"}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:03", "text": "the quiet of the desert. If he needed to"}, {"end": "00:07:10", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "blow off some steam, Las Vegas was close"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "by. Plus, Charles had a friend on base."}, {"end": "00:07:15", "start": "00:07:10", "text": "His buddy Dwight recommended him for the"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "job. Charles was grateful for the"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:15", "text": "opportunity."}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "That night, after he settled in, Charles"}, {"end": "00:07:23", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "and Dwight got to talking. They chatted"}, {"end": "00:07:25", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "about the base, how bad the food was,"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:23", "text": "which officers were good guys, which"}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:25", "text": "ones to avoid. Typical soldier talk."}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "Then, suddenly, Dwight got very serious."}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "Look, Charlie, summer's coming. You have"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "to keep your eye out for range for"}, {"end": "00:07:41", "start": "00:07:35", "text": "Harry. Old Harry likes it hot. He hides"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "in the mountains during the winter, but"}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:41", "text": "once it warms up, he comes down to"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "Indian Springs. He likes to run around"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "on the dry lake bed up on range 4. When"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "you're up there, be careful."}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "Range for Harry. Charles had no idea"}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "what Dwight was talking about. He asked"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "if this was some hermit who hid in the"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "mountains."}, {"end": "00:08:04", "start": "00:08:00", "text": ">> Who would be crazy enough to run around"}, {"end": "00:08:06", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "a nuclear bombing range?"}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:04", "text": ">> Well, that's what Charles thought."}, {"end": "00:08:10", "start": "00:08:06", "text": "Dwight frowned and shook his head. Then"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "he told Charlie the story of Range for"}, {"end": "00:08:15", "start": "00:08:10", "text": "Harry."}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "Back in 54, there was an atomic bomb"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "test over at Frenchman Flats. Harry is a"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "horse who came too close to the blast."}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "Not close enough to be vaporized, but"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "close enough that something happened to"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "him. Now he gives off a white glow. If"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "you see him, do not approach range for"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "Harry. And don't look at his face. He's"}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "not like a normal horse. Officers say"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "he's more humanlike with large blue eyes"}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "and a long white tail."}, {"end": "00:08:45", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "Charles stared at Dwight for a long"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "moment, then exploded into laughter. He"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "expected some kind of hazing at his new"}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "post, and he figured range for Harry was"}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "supposed to spook the new guy, but he"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "wasn't falling for it. I'm serious,"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:55", "text": "Charlie. While you're at range 4, don't"}, {"end": "00:09:03", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "take any risks. The last guy who got too"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "close to Harry was John Zimmerman. I"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:03", "text": "don't want you to end up like him."}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:05", "text": ">> Charles laughed and promised to be"}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "careful. Still, he wasn't buying any of"}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "this nonsense."}, {"end": "00:09:15", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "The next day, Charles was in the"}, {"end": "00:09:17", "start": "00:09:13", "text": "infirmary's waiting room. He needed a"}, {"end": "00:09:19", "start": "00:09:15", "text": "routine physical before going out into"}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:17", "text": "the field. The nurse on duty caught him"}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:19", "text": "chuckling to himself. She asked what was"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:21", "text": "so funny. Charles recounted Dwayne's"}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "range for Harry story and the fate of"}, {"end": "00:09:31", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "John Zimmerman. The nurse's face"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "dropped. She said, \"I'll be right back.\""}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:31", "text": "Charles heard her opening and closing a"}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "metal cabinet. When she returned, she"}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "said, \"I'm not supposed to show you"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "this, but since you're going to range 4,"}, {"end": "00:09:44", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "you need to know what's out there.\" It"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "was Zimmerman's medical folder. Inside"}, {"end": "00:09:49", "start": "00:09:44", "text": "were four pictures. Each of them showed"}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "a man covered in horrible radiation"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:49", "text": "burns. Zimmerman said a white horse came"}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "out of the North Range and charged him,"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "but that was all he could remember. He"}, {"end": "00:10:01", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "somehow dragged himself back to Indian"}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "Springs where an officer found him"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:01", "text": "barely alive and in absolute agony."}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "Charles's stomach sank. It wasn't a"}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "joke. Range for Harry was real."}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:17", "text": "Charles finally met Sullivan, the man"}, {"end": "00:10:23", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "he'd be replacing. Sully was friendly,"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "funny, and likable. The two men hit it"}, {"end": "00:10:28", "start": "00:10:23", "text": "off right away. Sully took Charles on a"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "tour of a few weather shacks out in the"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:28", "text": "ranges. One of the shacks was locked, so"}, {"end": "00:10:34", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "they couldn't access the equipment to"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "take their readings. Sully told Charles"}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "to just write down any numbers."}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:36", "text": ">> Yeah, government precision."}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:39", "text": ">> Well, Charles reminded Sully that they"}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "only checked out three weather shacks."}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "There were still four more. Range 1, 2,"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "3, and four. Sully's demeanor changed"}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "immediately. He said he'd take Charles"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "to the other stations, all except range"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "4."}, {"end": "00:10:59", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "When they got to range one, Sully"}, {"end": "00:11:02", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "wouldn't leave the truck. He was"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:10:59", "text": "terrified. He told Charles if he wanted"}, {"end": "00:11:06", "start": "00:11:02", "text": "to check out the weather shack, he'd"}, {"end": "00:11:08", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "have to go on his own. Sully said he'd"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:06", "text": "keep a lookout, and if he saw anything,"}, {"end": "00:11:13", "start": "00:11:08", "text": "he'd go back to base for help. He told"}, {"end": "00:11:15", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "Charles, \"If you hear me leave, lock"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:13", "text": "yourself in the shack and wait. I'll"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:15", "text": "come back for you.\""}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:16", "text": ">> Uh, yeah. I don't like this plan."}, {"end": "00:11:26", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "Well, Charles asked if Sully was talking"}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:24", "text": "about range for Harry, and Sullivan"}, {"end": "00:11:31", "start": "00:11:26", "text": "snapped at him and said, \"There's no"}, {"end": "00:11:33", "start": "00:11:27", "text": "such thing.\""}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:31", "text": "But Sully would not get out of the Jeep."}, {"end": "00:11:36", "start": "00:11:33", "text": "He wouldn't even take his hands off the"}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "wheel. He was squeezing the steering"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:36", "text": "wheel so tightly that his knuckles were"}, {"end": "00:11:43", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "white. This was not the same man Charles"}, {"end": "00:11:45", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "met just a few hours earlier. When"}, {"end": "00:11:47", "start": "00:11:43", "text": "Charles got to the weather shack, he"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:45", "text": "checked the equipment and log book."}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:47", "text": "Nobody had been there for months. Sully"}, {"end": "00:11:54", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "had been secretly going off base and"}, {"end": "00:11:56", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "faking the numbers. He never stepped"}, {"end": "00:11:58", "start": "00:11:54", "text": "foot in those weather shacks."}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:56", "text": ">> Nobody noticed the guy kept"}, {"end": "00:12:04", "start": "00:11:58", "text": "disappearing."}, {"end": "00:12:06", "start": "00:12:00", "text": ">> Ah, right. Government precision."}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:12:04", "text": ">> When Charles returned to the Jeep, he"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:06", "text": "confirmed that Sully had been lying"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "about the numbers. Sullivan didn't care."}, {"end": "00:12:14", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "He said he'd give Charles a tour and"}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "never wanted to go to the ranges again."}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:14", "text": "Pretty soon, Charles would understand"}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "why."}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:18", "text": "Over the next few months, Charles spent"}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "more time on the ranges at Indian"}, {"end": "00:12:27", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "Springs than anyone else. Against"}, {"end": "00:12:29", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "advice, he was usually out there alone,"}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:27", "text": "but he enjoyed it. It was peaceful, and"}, {"end": "00:12:35", "start": "00:12:29", "text": "he never saw a range for Harry. One day,"}, {"end": "00:12:37", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "Charles was out on the range, and it was"}, {"end": "00:12:40", "start": "00:12:35", "text": "especially hot. In the desert, the"}, {"end": "00:12:42", "start": "00:12:37", "text": "ground could reach 120 or 130\u00b0. And"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:40", "text": "today, it felt even hotter than that."}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:42", "text": "Charles spent most of the day in the"}, {"end": "00:12:47", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "weather shack. He didn't have air"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "conditioning, but he had an old fan, and"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:47", "text": "that was good enough. Besides, the sun"}, {"end": "00:12:54", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "was setting, and soon it would go from"}, {"end": "00:12:56", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "blistering hot to freezing cold. That"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:54", "text": "was life in the desert. Feet up in the"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:56", "text": "desk, Charles daydreamed as he gazed"}, {"end": "00:13:03", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "into the desert, watching the sky go"}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "from deep blue to orange to red. There"}, {"end": "00:13:09", "start": "00:13:03", "text": "was no sound except the songs of mearks."}, {"end": "00:13:11", "start": "00:13:07", "text": "Charles wondered to himself if mearks"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:09", "text": "were common in the desert. He didn't"}, {"end": "00:13:14", "start": "00:13:11", "text": "think so, but whatever birds they were,"}, {"end": "00:13:16", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "he enjoyed the sound."}, {"end": "00:13:19", "start": "00:13:14", "text": "Then he saw something dart between the"}, {"end": "00:13:21", "start": "00:13:16", "text": "sage brush. Charles blinked. There it"}, {"end": "00:13:24", "start": "00:13:19", "text": "was again. He assumed it was a large"}, {"end": "00:13:26", "start": "00:13:21", "text": "rabbit or coyote, but it was covered in"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:24", "text": "brilliant white fur. The more he"}, {"end": "00:13:30", "start": "00:13:26", "text": "focused, the more he realized it was"}, {"end": "00:13:32", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "moving erratically through the maze of"}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:30", "text": "sage brush like it was in distress."}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:32", "text": "Charles jumped out of his chair and"}, {"end": "00:13:40", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "threw open the door of the shack."}, {"end": "00:13:44", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "Then he saw it. It wasn't a rabbit or a"}, {"end": "00:13:44", "start": "00:13:40", "text": "coyote. It was a child."}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:45", "text": "describe them. I know we have a animated"}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:47", "text": "picture of uh what they look like on the"}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:50", "text": "website. Kind of describe the tall"}, {"end": "00:13:57", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "whites for us. Well, the one that Paula"}, {"end": "00:13:59", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "has on her website is a very good"}, {"end": "00:14:01", "start": "00:13:57", "text": "rendition of a particular tall white"}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:59", "text": "lady. Um each one of them were"}, {"end": "00:14:06", "start": "00:14:01", "text": "individuals like the people say in New"}, {"end": "00:14:08", "start": "00:14:03", "text": "York City, but they were generally"}, {"end": "00:14:11", "start": "00:14:06", "text": "throughout much of their adult life they"}, {"end": "00:14:12", "start": "00:14:08", "text": "were about the same height as me, 5'11,"}, {"end": "00:14:14", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "6 ft. Mhm."}, {"end": "00:14:18", "start": "00:14:12", "text": ">> They were very thin and frail. They had"}, {"end": "00:14:20", "start": "00:14:14", "text": "skin as white as a piece of paper."}, {"end": "00:14:22", "start": "00:14:18", "text": "The what I do know about them is that"}, {"end": "00:14:23", "start": "00:14:20", "text": "they come from a planet that's somewhat"}, {"end": "00:14:26", "start": "00:14:22", "text": "hotter than the Earth and somewhat"}, {"end": "00:14:29", "start": "00:14:23", "text": "larger than the Earth and they spend and"}, {"end": "00:14:33", "start": "00:14:26", "text": "they naturally live underground."}, {"end": "00:14:33", "start": "00:14:29", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:14:42", "start": "00:14:37", "text": "The girl was barely 3 ft tall and her"}, {"end": "00:14:44", "start": "00:14:39", "text": "skin was chalk white. She wore a silver"}, {"end": "00:14:47", "start": "00:14:42", "text": "jumpsuit and boots and her hair was"}, {"end": "00:14:49", "start": "00:14:44", "text": "brilliant white blonde."}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:47", "text": "Behind her bright blue eyes, she looked"}, {"end": "00:14:55", "start": "00:14:49", "text": "as terrified as Charles. She was tangled"}, {"end": "00:14:56", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "in the brush. He called out to her. He"}, {"end": "00:14:58", "start": "00:14:55", "text": "said there's no reason to be afraid he"}, {"end": "00:15:00", "start": "00:14:56", "text": "wasn't going to hurt her. He cleared the"}, {"end": "00:15:02", "start": "00:14:58", "text": "sage brush around her so she could"}, {"end": "00:15:05", "start": "00:15:00", "text": "easily get out, but he made himself"}, {"end": "00:15:07", "start": "00:15:02", "text": "clear that he wouldn't touch her."}, {"end": "00:15:09", "start": "00:15:05", "text": "On a nearby fence post, he left a"}, {"end": "00:15:11", "start": "00:15:07", "text": "canteen of water. He said if she was"}, {"end": "00:15:13", "start": "00:15:09", "text": "lost, he would help her. All she had to"}, {"end": "00:15:15", "start": "00:15:11", "text": "do was ask. Charles turned back toward"}, {"end": "00:15:17", "start": "00:15:13", "text": "the shack. That's when he heard"}, {"end": "00:15:20", "start": "00:15:15", "text": "something crashing through the brush. It"}, {"end": "00:15:23", "start": "00:15:17", "text": "was big and it was moving fast and it"}, {"end": "00:15:23", "start": "00:15:20", "text": "was getting closer."}, {"end": "00:15:31", "start": "00:15:24", "text": "Charles turned and saw something, a man,"}, {"end": "00:15:33", "start": "00:15:28", "text": "a very tall man."}, {"end": "00:15:36", "start": "00:15:31", "text": "He had the same features as the little"}, {"end": "00:15:38", "start": "00:15:33", "text": "girl. Pale skin, white hair, silver"}, {"end": "00:15:40", "start": "00:15:36", "text": "suit, and he was charging right at"}, {"end": "00:15:42", "start": "00:15:38", "text": "Charles. The sounds of the metallarks"}, {"end": "00:15:45", "start": "00:15:40", "text": "now became screeches. The peaceful"}, {"end": "00:15:47", "start": "00:15:42", "text": "desert had become chaos. Charles jumped"}, {"end": "00:15:50", "start": "00:15:45", "text": "back in the weather shack and barricaded"}, {"end": "00:15:53", "start": "00:15:47", "text": "the door. Did he just see range for"}, {"end": "00:15:58", "start": "00:15:50", "text": "Harry? Charles wasn't sure, but he was"}, {"end": "00:16:00", "start": "00:15:53", "text": "sure that these people weren't human."}, {"end": "00:16:02", "start": "00:15:58", "text": "Charles waited for what felt like hours."}, {"end": "00:16:05", "start": "00:16:00", "text": "It was the middle of the night and the"}, {"end": "00:16:07", "start": "00:16:02", "text": "desert was pitch black. The songirds and"}, {"end": "00:16:09", "start": "00:16:05", "text": "the screeching had finally stopped. The"}, {"end": "00:16:12", "start": "00:16:07", "text": "only sound was a gentle rustling of wind"}, {"end": "00:16:12", "start": "00:16:09", "text": "through the brush."}, {"end": "00:16:21", "start": "00:16:16", "text": "Charles gathered his nerves and left the"}, {"end": "00:16:24", "start": "00:16:18", "text": "shack. He checked his canteen. It was"}, {"end": "00:16:26", "start": "00:16:21", "text": "half empty. In the sand, he saw three"}, {"end": "00:16:31", "start": "00:16:24", "text": "sets of footprints. A child and two"}, {"end": "00:16:33", "start": "00:16:26", "text": "adults. Someone was there."}, {"end": "00:16:35", "start": "00:16:31", "text": "Charles had seen enough. He scrambled to"}, {"end": "00:16:38", "start": "00:16:33", "text": "his jeep, fired up the engine, and tore"}, {"end": "00:16:40", "start": "00:16:35", "text": "down the dirt road heading back to base."}, {"end": "00:16:43", "start": "00:16:38", "text": "No more than a few minutes passed when"}, {"end": "00:16:45", "start": "00:16:40", "text": "Charles got another shock."}, {"end": "00:16:48", "start": "00:16:43", "text": "Standing in the brush next to the road"}, {"end": "00:16:50", "start": "00:16:45", "text": "was an extremely tall woman, well over 6"}, {"end": "00:16:53", "start": "00:16:48", "text": "ft tall. And like the child and the"}, {"end": "00:16:56", "start": "00:16:50", "text": "other entity, she had skin as white as"}, {"end": "00:16:59", "start": "00:16:53", "text": "chalk. Her hair was shimmering silver."}, {"end": "00:17:01", "start": "00:16:56", "text": "She seemed to glow in the dark."}, {"end": "00:17:03", "start": "00:16:59", "text": "Charles felt panic welling up when a"}, {"end": "00:17:06", "start": "00:17:01", "text": "feeling of calm suddenly washed over"}, {"end": "00:17:08", "start": "00:17:03", "text": "him."}, {"end": "00:17:11", "start": "00:17:06", "text": "As he passed the tall woman, he could"}, {"end": "00:17:16", "start": "00:17:08", "text": "hear her in his mind. Telepathically,"}, {"end": "00:17:16", "start": "00:17:11", "text": "she thanked him for helping her daughter"}, {"end": "00:17:23", "start": "00:17:17", "text": "again. Charles felt his fear rising, but"}, {"end": "00:17:26", "start": "00:17:20", "text": "once again, there was calm."}, {"end": "00:17:29", "start": "00:17:23", "text": "The woman, if that's what she was, was"}, {"end": "00:17:31", "start": "00:17:26", "text": "radiating peaceful energy and gratitude."}, {"end": "00:17:34", "start": "00:17:29", "text": "Charles felt like he couldn't be afraid,"}, {"end": "00:17:36", "start": "00:17:31", "text": "even if he tried. Charles hit the gas,"}, {"end": "00:17:38", "start": "00:17:34", "text": "but checked his mirrors. After a few"}, {"end": "00:17:41", "start": "00:17:36", "text": "minutes, the woman disappeared, and with"}, {"end": "00:17:43", "start": "00:17:38", "text": "her went the feeling of peace and calm."}, {"end": "00:17:46", "start": "00:17:41", "text": "Charles stopped his Jeep, stumbled out,"}, {"end": "00:17:48", "start": "00:17:43", "text": "and threw up. He was shaking and out of"}, {"end": "00:17:51", "start": "00:17:46", "text": "breath. Once he had his wind back, he"}, {"end": "00:17:53", "start": "00:17:48", "text": "vomited again."}, {"end": "00:17:55", "start": "00:17:51", "text": "He didn't realize it then, but Charles"}, {"end": "00:17:57", "start": "00:17:53", "text": "had won the trust of one of the tall"}, {"end": "00:17:59", "start": "00:17:55", "text": "whites. At least that's what the US"}, {"end": "00:18:03", "start": "00:17:57", "text": "government called them. The tall whites"}, {"end": "00:18:03", "start": "00:17:59", "text": "were not from Earth."}, {"end": "00:18:07", "start": "00:18:03", "text": "The truth was, Charles wasn't sent to"}, {"end": "00:18:09", "start": "00:18:05", "text": "the ranges at Indian Springs by his"}, {"end": "00:18:11", "start": "00:18:07", "text": "commanding officers, nor was he"}, {"end": "00:18:14", "start": "00:18:09", "text": "recommended for the job by his friend"}, {"end": "00:18:16", "start": "00:18:11", "text": "Dwight. Charles was specially chosen by"}, {"end": "00:18:18", "start": "00:18:14", "text": "a committee of highranking generals,"}, {"end": "00:18:20", "start": "00:18:16", "text": "members of the government, and leaders"}, {"end": "00:18:23", "start": "00:18:18", "text": "of the tall whites. Throughout his time"}, {"end": "00:18:25", "start": "00:18:20", "text": "at Nellis, Charles was never told the"}, {"end": "00:18:27", "start": "00:18:23", "text": "full truth about his work. He was never"}, {"end": "00:18:29", "start": "00:18:25", "text": "given any classified briefings or"}, {"end": "00:18:31", "start": "00:18:27", "text": "documentation. He was never read into"}, {"end": "00:18:33", "start": "00:18:29", "text": "any black ops or secret government"}, {"end": "00:18:37", "start": "00:18:31", "text": "programs. Charles was just a weather"}, {"end": "00:18:40", "start": "00:18:33", "text": "observer. But the truth was, he was the"}, {"end": "00:18:40", "start": "00:18:37", "text": "one being observed."}, {"end": "00:18:51", "start": "00:18:45", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:18:52", "start": "00:18:47", "text": "Late one night in 1896, Colonel HG Shaw"}, {"end": "00:18:55", "start": "00:18:51", "text": "was traveling in horse and buggy near"}, {"end": "00:18:58", "start": "00:18:52", "text": "Loi, California. Suddenly, the horse"}, {"end": "00:19:00", "start": "00:18:55", "text": "became frightened and stopped. In the"}, {"end": "00:19:03", "start": "00:18:58", "text": "middle of the road were three 7-ft tall"}, {"end": "00:19:05", "start": "00:19:00", "text": "beings. The colonel described their skin"}, {"end": "00:19:07", "start": "00:19:03", "text": "as so white it looked like polished"}, {"end": "00:19:10", "start": "00:19:05", "text": "ivory."}, {"end": "00:19:13", "start": "00:19:07", "text": "Looking up, we beheld three strange"}, {"end": "00:19:16", "start": "00:19:10", "text": "beings. They resembled humans in many"}, {"end": "00:19:19", "start": "00:19:13", "text": "respects, but still they were not like"}, {"end": "00:19:23", "start": "00:19:16", "text": "anything I had ever seen. They were"}, {"end": "00:19:25", "start": "00:19:19", "text": "nearly or quite 7 ft high and very"}, {"end": "00:19:27", "start": "00:19:23", "text": "slender."}, {"end": "00:19:29", "start": "00:19:25", "text": "They were possessed of a strange and"}, {"end": "00:19:32", "start": "00:19:27", "text": "indescribable beauty."}, {"end": "00:19:34", "start": "00:19:29", "text": ">> Colonel Shaw said they didn't speak, but"}, {"end": "00:19:36", "start": "00:19:32", "text": "they made warbling sounds like birds."}, {"end": "00:19:38", "start": "00:19:34", "text": "You can actually find this whole story"}, {"end": "00:19:41", "start": "00:19:36", "text": "online. It made the front page of the"}, {"end": "00:19:42", "start": "00:19:38", "text": "Stockton Evening Mail on November 25th,"}, {"end": "00:19:44", "start": "00:19:41", "text": "1896."}, {"end": "00:19:47", "start": "00:19:42", "text": "This is the first modern report of the"}, {"end": "00:19:50", "start": "00:19:44", "text": "tall white aliens, but their story on"}, {"end": "00:19:52", "start": "00:19:47", "text": "Earth goes back millennia."}, {"end": "00:19:54", "start": "00:19:50", "text": "Paul Helier, the Canadian Defense"}, {"end": "00:19:56", "start": "00:19:52", "text": "Minister, was one of the first"}, {"end": "00:19:58", "start": "00:19:54", "text": "high-ranking government officials to"}, {"end": "00:20:00", "start": "00:19:56", "text": "acknowledge the alien presence. He"}, {"end": "00:20:04", "start": "00:19:58", "text": "became interested after a squadron of"}, {"end": "00:20:07", "start": "00:20:00", "text": "UFOs was mistaken to be Soviet aircraft."}, {"end": "00:20:09", "start": "00:20:04", "text": "The investigation was launched into this"}, {"end": "00:20:12", "start": "00:20:07", "text": "whole subject"}, {"end": "00:20:14", "start": "00:20:09", "text": "and uh a"}, {"end": "00:20:17", "start": "00:20:12", "text": "document was prepared"}, {"end": "00:20:20", "start": "00:20:14", "text": "which u concluded"}, {"end": "00:20:25", "start": "00:20:17", "text": "that at least four species had been"}, {"end": "00:20:25", "start": "00:20:20", "text": "visiting earth for thousands of years."}, {"end": "00:20:29", "start": "00:20:26", "text": ">> You're probably familiar with a few of"}, {"end": "00:20:31", "start": "00:20:28", "text": "these species. There are a few"}, {"end": "00:20:33", "start": "00:20:29", "text": "variations of the grays which are"}, {"end": "00:20:36", "start": "00:20:31", "text": "described as being under 4t tall with"}, {"end": "00:20:37", "start": "00:20:33", "text": "large heads and large black eyes."}, {"end": "00:20:40", "start": "00:20:36", "text": "There's a species called the Nordics"}, {"end": "00:20:44", "start": "00:20:37", "text": "which are very humanlike. There are the"}, {"end": "00:20:47", "start": "00:20:40", "text": "tall whites and a few others."}, {"end": "00:20:48", "start": "00:20:44", "text": "Other species that I learned about u not"}, {"end": "00:20:53", "start": "00:20:47", "text": "too long ago"}, {"end": "00:20:53", "start": "00:20:48", "text": "was called the tall whites."}, {"end": "00:20:58", "start": "00:20:53", "text": "For years, it was rumored that at least"}, {"end": "00:21:00", "start": "00:20:56", "text": "one or perhaps more than one race of"}, {"end": "00:21:03", "start": "00:20:58", "text": "aliens made a deal with the United"}, {"end": "00:21:06", "start": "00:21:00", "text": "States government in early 1954. The"}, {"end": "00:21:10", "start": "00:21:03", "text": "defense minister agrees."}, {"end": "00:21:12", "start": "00:21:06", "text": ">> There are live ETSs on Earth at this"}, {"end": "00:21:16", "start": "00:21:10", "text": "present time"}, {"end": "00:21:17", "start": "00:21:12", "text": "and um at least two of them probably"}, {"end": "00:21:20", "start": "00:21:16", "text": "working with the United States"}, {"end": "00:21:20", "start": "00:21:17", "text": "government."}, {"end": "00:21:23", "start": "00:21:20", "text": "Nobody knows the specifics of the"}, {"end": "00:21:25", "start": "00:21:22", "text": "arrangement."}, {"end": "00:21:27", "start": "00:21:23", "text": ">> Yeah, the shadow government knows."}, {"end": "00:21:30", "start": "00:21:25", "text": ">> Well, yeah, they do, but the public"}, {"end": "00:21:32", "start": "00:21:27", "text": "doesn't. The best guess is that the US"}, {"end": "00:21:34", "start": "00:21:30", "text": "would allow the aliens to build"}, {"end": "00:21:37", "start": "00:21:32", "text": "facilities on Earth without disruption."}, {"end": "00:21:39", "start": "00:21:34", "text": "The US would also allow aliens to abduct"}, {"end": "00:21:41", "start": "00:21:37", "text": "American citizens as long as they"}, {"end": "00:21:43", "start": "00:21:39", "text": "provided the government with the list of"}, {"end": "00:21:45", "start": "00:21:41", "text": "abductees. In exchange, the United"}, {"end": "00:21:48", "start": "00:21:43", "text": "States would have access to alien"}, {"end": "00:21:50", "start": "00:21:45", "text": "technology. The US wanted anti-gravity"}, {"end": "00:21:52", "start": "00:21:48", "text": "and propulsion technology. The aliens"}, {"end": "00:21:54", "start": "00:21:50", "text": "would not give them this. They felt that"}, {"end": "00:21:57", "start": "00:21:52", "text": "humans were too violent and dangerous to"}, {"end": "00:22:00", "start": "00:21:54", "text": "be let out of our cage, which is this"}, {"end": "00:22:02", "start": "00:21:57", "text": "planet."}, {"end": "00:22:04", "start": "00:22:00", "text": "However, the US did receive help with"}, {"end": "00:22:07", "start": "00:22:02", "text": "other technology. The first of which was"}, {"end": "00:22:07", "start": "00:22:04", "text": "titanium."}, {"end": "00:22:13", "start": "00:22:08", "text": "Now, titanium was discovered in 1791,"}, {"end": "00:22:16", "start": "00:22:11", "text": "but it wasn't until the 1950s that"}, {"end": "00:22:18", "start": "00:22:13", "text": "titanium began to be used for military"}, {"end": "00:22:20", "start": "00:22:16", "text": "aviation, specifically in"}, {"end": "00:22:24", "start": "00:22:18", "text": "high-performance jets, starting with the"}, {"end": "00:22:26", "start": "00:22:20", "text": "F-100 Super Sabers and Lockheed A12s."}, {"end": "00:22:30", "start": "00:22:24", "text": "The Super Saber, by the way, is the"}, {"end": "00:22:31", "start": "00:22:26", "text": "first jet to break the sound barrier."}, {"end": "00:22:34", "start": "00:22:30", "text": "If you think this craft looks like a"}, {"end": "00:22:36", "start": "00:22:31", "text": "stealth bomber, that's not by accident."}, {"end": "00:22:39", "start": "00:22:34", "text": "The US Air Force used a lot of alien"}, {"end": "00:22:41", "start": "00:22:36", "text": "technology to build stealth aircraft."}, {"end": "00:22:43", "start": "00:22:39", "text": "Transistors are said to be alien tech."}, {"end": "00:22:45", "start": "00:22:41", "text": "Transistors allowed the size of"}, {"end": "00:22:48", "start": "00:22:43", "text": "electronic devices to be made much"}, {"end": "00:22:51", "start": "00:22:45", "text": "smaller and lighter. Laser technology"}, {"end": "00:22:54", "start": "00:22:48", "text": "arrived in 1958. That same year we got"}, {"end": "00:22:57", "start": "00:22:51", "text": "fiber optics. And also in 1958 we got"}, {"end": "00:22:59", "start": "00:22:54", "text": "the big one, the microchip. The"}, {"end": "00:23:02", "start": "00:22:57", "text": "following year the first integrated"}, {"end": "00:23:05", "start": "00:22:59", "text": "circuit was developed."}, {"end": "00:23:07", "start": "00:23:02", "text": "Now, skeptics dismiss these claims as"}, {"end": "00:23:13", "start": "00:23:05", "text": "coincidence, and I understand that. But"}, {"end": "00:23:15", "start": "00:23:07", "text": "consider this. In 1947, Aniac was built."}, {"end": "00:23:18", "start": "00:23:13", "text": "This was the first programmable"}, {"end": "00:23:21", "start": "00:23:15", "text": "electronic digital computer. It weighed"}, {"end": "00:23:25", "start": "00:23:18", "text": "30 tons. It contained 18,000 vacuum"}, {"end": "00:23:28", "start": "00:23:21", "text": "tubes, 70,000 resistors, 10,000"}, {"end": "00:23:31", "start": "00:23:25", "text": "capacitors, and 5 million hand solder"}, {"end": "00:23:34", "start": "00:23:28", "text": "joints. It took up an entire room. ENIAC"}, {"end": "00:23:37", "start": "00:23:31", "text": "was decommissioned in 1958 because all"}, {"end": "00:23:39", "start": "00:23:34", "text": "of that 30 tons of technology could now"}, {"end": "00:23:42", "start": "00:23:37", "text": "be placed on a single chip. That's quite"}, {"end": "00:23:44", "start": "00:23:39", "text": "a leap in tech in under 10 years."}, {"end": "00:23:47", "start": "00:23:42", "text": "Satellites, wireless tech, unmanned"}, {"end": "00:23:49", "start": "00:23:44", "text": "aerial vehicles, even night vision. All"}, {"end": "00:23:52", "start": "00:23:47", "text": "this technology has allegedly been"}, {"end": "00:23:54", "start": "00:23:49", "text": "gifted to or reverse engineered by the"}, {"end": "00:23:58", "start": "00:23:52", "text": "United States military. Well, certain"}, {"end": "00:23:58", "start": "00:23:54", "text": "parts of the military."}, {"end": "00:24:03", "start": "00:23:59", "text": "When Charles Hall gained the trust of"}, {"end": "00:24:05", "start": "00:24:01", "text": "the Tall whites, they showed him some of"}, {"end": "00:24:08", "start": "00:24:03", "text": "this technology. They even let him see"}, {"end": "00:24:12", "start": "00:24:05", "text": "one of their scout ships. Actually,"}, {"end": "00:24:12", "start": "00:24:08", "text": "you've seen them, too."}, {"end": "00:24:18", "start": "00:24:13", "text": ">> Did they tell you, Charles, where they"}, {"end": "00:24:20", "start": "00:24:15", "text": "were from? What star system they might"}, {"end": "00:24:22", "start": "00:24:18", "text": "have come up from?"}, {"end": "00:24:25", "start": "00:24:20", "text": "One night I was there with the teacher"}, {"end": "00:24:29", "start": "00:24:22", "text": "and and I asked her where she came from"}, {"end": "00:24:31", "start": "00:24:25", "text": "and she um smiled and said asked me, \"Do"}, {"end": "00:24:34", "start": "00:24:29", "text": "I know the names of the stars that the"}, {"end": "00:24:36", "start": "00:24:31", "text": "tall whites used?\""}, {"end": "00:24:38", "start": "00:24:34", "text": "And I said, \"No, I didn't.\" And she"}, {"end": "00:24:40", "start": "00:24:36", "text": "said, \"So what? You want to know where"}, {"end": "00:24:42", "start": "00:24:38", "text": "we come from?\""}, {"end": "00:24:45", "start": "00:24:40", "text": "However, one night they were standing"}, {"end": "00:24:50", "start": "00:24:42", "text": "around me and I mentioned the star"}, {"end": "00:24:50", "start": "00:24:45", "text": "Arcturus and they all got real nervous."}, {"end": "00:24:56", "start": "00:24:52", "text": "Charles formed a friendship with the"}, {"end": "00:25:00", "start": "00:24:54", "text": "tall white woman whose child he helped"}, {"end": "00:25:02", "start": "00:24:56", "text": "find. She went by the name the teacher."}, {"end": "00:25:05", "start": "00:25:00", "text": "Charles later met Range for Harry, who"}, {"end": "00:25:07", "start": "00:25:02", "text": "is definitely not a radioactive horse."}, {"end": "00:25:10", "start": "00:25:05", "text": "Range for Harry is a high-ranking tall"}, {"end": "00:25:13", "start": "00:25:07", "text": "white alien. The tall whites travel the"}, {"end": "00:25:15", "start": "00:25:10", "text": "stars in large black triangular titanium"}, {"end": "00:25:17", "start": "00:25:13", "text": "ships. Smaller scout crafts were used to"}, {"end": "00:25:20", "start": "00:25:15", "text": "travel within the solar system and"}, {"end": "00:25:22", "start": "00:25:17", "text": "around the Earth. These are roughly the"}, {"end": "00:25:24", "start": "00:25:20", "text": "size of a bus and can only land on Earth"}, {"end": "00:25:26", "start": "00:25:22", "text": "during the full moon. You've seen these"}, {"end": "00:25:29", "start": "00:25:24", "text": "scout crafts before. You just know them"}, {"end": "00:25:31", "start": "00:25:26", "text": "as the Tic Tac. Charles learned that the"}, {"end": "00:25:34", "start": "00:25:29", "text": "scout crafts aren't alien at all."}, {"end": "00:25:37", "start": "00:25:31", "text": "Government contractors like Boeing and"}, {"end": "00:25:39", "start": "00:25:34", "text": "Lockheed are the ones building them."}, {"end": "00:25:42", "start": "00:25:37", "text": ">> Let's look at this. You know what this"}, {"end": "00:25:45", "start": "00:25:39", "text": "is?"}, {"end": "00:25:46", "start": "00:25:42", "text": ">> Yeah. Come on, bro."}, {"end": "00:25:48", "start": "00:25:45", "text": "There's a whole fleet of them. Look on"}, {"end": "00:25:52", "start": "00:25:46", "text": "the SA."}, {"end": "00:25:53", "start": "00:25:48", "text": "My gosh."}, {"end": "00:25:56", "start": "00:25:52", "text": "They're all going against the wind. The"}, {"end": "00:25:59", "start": "00:25:53", "text": "wind's 120 knots to the west. That"}, {"end": "00:25:59", "start": "00:25:56", "text": "thing, dude."}, {"end": "00:26:04", "start": "00:25:59", "text": "This is an alternative energy and"}, {"end": "00:26:06", "start": "00:26:01", "text": "propulsion device. These are things that"}, {"end": "00:26:09", "start": "00:26:04", "text": "have existed all the way back into the"}, {"end": "00:26:12", "start": "00:26:06", "text": "60s. But the one that they call the tic"}, {"end": "00:26:14", "start": "00:26:09", "text": "tac here off the coast of San Diego, the"}, {"end": "00:26:16", "start": "00:26:12", "text": "white one looked very much like this."}, {"end": "00:26:19", "start": "00:26:14", "text": "These have been made by the Lockheed"}, {"end": "00:26:19", "start": "00:26:16", "text": "Skunk Works."}, {"end": "00:26:25", "start": "00:26:20", "text": "Skunk Works is Loheed Martin's advanced"}, {"end": "00:26:28", "start": "00:26:22", "text": "development program. It works on highly"}, {"end": "00:26:30", "start": "00:26:25", "text": "classified research as well as exotic"}, {"end": "00:26:32", "start": "00:26:28", "text": "aircraft platforms."}, {"end": "00:26:34", "start": "00:26:30", "text": "Because of their deal with the US"}, {"end": "00:26:36", "start": "00:26:32", "text": "government, most military personnel"}, {"end": "00:26:38", "start": "00:26:34", "text": "believe the tall whites use Earth as a"}, {"end": "00:26:41", "start": "00:26:36", "text": "truck stop in the middle of the solar"}, {"end": "00:26:43", "start": "00:26:38", "text": "system. Earth is rich in raw materials"}, {"end": "00:26:46", "start": "00:26:41", "text": "and has these smart little apes who can"}, {"end": "00:26:48", "start": "00:26:43", "text": "make somewhat decent vehicles. Through"}, {"end": "00:26:50", "start": "00:26:46", "text": "conversations during his 2-year post at"}, {"end": "00:26:52", "start": "00:26:48", "text": "Nellis, Charles learned the tall whites"}, {"end": "00:26:54", "start": "00:26:50", "text": "oversaw the development of a lot of"}, {"end": "00:26:56", "start": "00:26:52", "text": "human tech, but they've never taught us"}, {"end": "00:26:58", "start": "00:26:54", "text": "how to reach light speed or how to"}, {"end": "00:27:00", "start": "00:26:56", "text": "create the anti-gravity elements of"}, {"end": "00:27:01", "start": "00:26:58", "text": "their ships."}, {"end": "00:27:03", "start": "00:27:00", "text": "Now, if you saw last week's episode on"}, {"end": "00:27:06", "start": "00:27:01", "text": "free energy and anti-gravity, you"}, {"end": "00:27:09", "start": "00:27:03", "text": "remember that anti-gravidic technology"}, {"end": "00:27:11", "start": "00:27:06", "text": "was very popular in the early 1950s. The"}, {"end": "00:27:13", "start": "00:27:09", "text": "entire aerospace industry was talking"}, {"end": "00:27:16", "start": "00:27:11", "text": "about it. Then suddenly, nobody was"}, {"end": "00:27:18", "start": "00:27:13", "text": "talking about it. The suspicion is the"}, {"end": "00:27:20", "start": "00:27:16", "text": "US military had help in getting this"}, {"end": "00:27:22", "start": "00:27:18", "text": "tech to work. So, they classified"}, {"end": "00:27:24", "start": "00:27:20", "text": "everything."}, {"end": "00:27:27", "start": "00:27:22", "text": "Sometimes the tall whites would take"}, {"end": "00:27:29", "start": "00:27:24", "text": "highranking military members on tours of"}, {"end": "00:27:31", "start": "00:27:27", "text": "the solar system. American generals"}, {"end": "00:27:33", "start": "00:27:29", "text": "wanted to expand humanity's operations"}, {"end": "00:27:36", "start": "00:27:31", "text": "to other planets, but the tall whites"}, {"end": "00:27:38", "start": "00:27:33", "text": "don't think we're ready yet. But Charles"}, {"end": "00:27:40", "start": "00:27:36", "text": "does think there's significant trade"}, {"end": "00:27:42", "start": "00:27:38", "text": "happening between the US and the tall"}, {"end": "00:27:44", "start": "00:27:40", "text": "whites. And when they feel we're ready,"}, {"end": "00:27:47", "start": "00:27:42", "text": "the tall whites will finally allow us to"}, {"end": "00:27:49", "start": "00:27:44", "text": "inhabit other worlds."}, {"end": "00:27:52", "start": "00:27:47", "text": "So what do they want with someone like"}, {"end": "00:27:53", "start": "00:27:49", "text": "Charles? If these beings already had a"}, {"end": "00:27:55", "start": "00:27:52", "text": "working relationship with the US"}, {"end": "00:27:58", "start": "00:27:53", "text": "government, why was Charles suddenly"}, {"end": "00:27:59", "start": "00:27:55", "text": "part of the equation? Well, the answer"}, {"end": "00:28:02", "start": "00:27:58", "text": "concerns the other part of the"}, {"end": "00:28:04", "start": "00:27:59", "text": "arrangement with the tall whites."}, {"end": "00:28:06", "start": "00:28:02", "text": "Charles learned he was part of an"}, {"end": "00:28:09", "start": "00:28:04", "text": "experiment. He was being studied by the"}, {"end": "00:28:11", "start": "00:28:06", "text": "tall whites, especially by the teacher."}, {"end": "00:28:13", "start": "00:28:09", "text": "He was fascinating to their species, and"}, {"end": "00:28:16", "start": "00:28:11", "text": "the teacher enjoyed spending time with"}, {"end": "00:28:19", "start": "00:28:13", "text": "Charles. I think of all the education"}, {"end": "00:28:23", "start": "00:28:16", "text": "that I missed, but then my homework was"}, {"end": "00:28:23", "start": "00:28:19", "text": "never quite like this."}, {"end": "00:28:28", "start": "00:28:24", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:28:30", "start": "00:28:26", "text": "The teacher taught Charles about her"}, {"end": "00:28:32", "start": "00:28:28", "text": "people and he taught her about humans."}, {"end": "00:28:36", "start": "00:28:30", "text": "Charles spent so much time with her that"}, {"end": "00:28:41", "start": "00:28:32", "text": "he became known as the teacher's pet."}, {"end": "00:28:41", "start": "00:28:36", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:28:49", "start": "00:28:44", "text": "I'm half a teacher."}, {"end": "00:28:50", "start": "00:28:47", "text": ">> Yeah, I'm just trying to liven things"}, {"end": "00:28:53", "start": "00:28:49", "text": "up. Go ahead."}, {"end": "00:28:55", "start": "00:28:50", "text": ">> The tall whites can speak English, but"}, {"end": "00:28:57", "start": "00:28:53", "text": "their natural voices are far higher and"}, {"end": "00:28:59", "start": "00:28:55", "text": "lower in range than humans. Their"}, {"end": "00:29:01", "start": "00:28:57", "text": "natural speech has been compared to song"}, {"end": "00:29:03", "start": "00:28:59", "text": "birds."}, {"end": "00:29:05", "start": "00:29:01", "text": "While tall whites may appear somewhat"}, {"end": "00:29:07", "start": "00:29:03", "text": "human, their abilities are quite"}, {"end": "00:29:10", "start": "00:29:05", "text": "different from ours. They possess the"}, {"end": "00:29:12", "start": "00:29:07", "text": "power to project powerful emotions into"}, {"end": "00:29:14", "start": "00:29:10", "text": "the human consciousness. They can also"}, {"end": "00:29:16", "start": "00:29:12", "text": "sense the emotional state of the humans"}, {"end": "00:29:18", "start": "00:29:14", "text": "they encounter. Even though the tall"}, {"end": "00:29:21", "start": "00:29:16", "text": "whites are naturally peaceful, they are"}, {"end": "00:29:24", "start": "00:29:18", "text": "always armed. They carry a pen-like"}, {"end": "00:29:24", "start": "00:29:21", "text": "object that can stun, damage, or even"}, {"end": "00:29:27", "start": "00:29:24", "text": "kill."}, {"end": "00:29:30", "start": "00:29:24", "text": ">> Ew, it sounds like a sonic screwdriver."}, {"end": "00:29:33", "start": "00:29:27", "text": ">> Kind of. Yeah. But Charles was never in"}, {"end": "00:29:36", "start": "00:29:30", "text": "danger. He developed a deeply emotional"}, {"end": "00:29:38", "start": "00:29:33", "text": "relationship with the tall whites."}, {"end": "00:29:41", "start": "00:29:36", "text": "Not much is known about tall white"}, {"end": "00:29:43", "start": "00:29:38", "text": "biology. We know they age slowly. Their"}, {"end": "00:29:46", "start": "00:29:41", "text": "first stage of growth lasts until age"}, {"end": "00:29:49", "start": "00:29:43", "text": "400. At this point, they stand between 6"}, {"end": "00:29:51", "start": "00:29:46", "text": "and 7 feet tall. Then they go through a"}, {"end": "00:29:54", "start": "00:29:49", "text": "second growth stage. They can grow up to"}, {"end": "00:29:56", "start": "00:29:51", "text": "8 or 9 ft tall and their eyes turn from"}, {"end": "00:30:00", "start": "00:29:54", "text": "blue to pink. The average lifespan of a"}, {"end": "00:30:01", "start": "00:29:56", "text": "tall white is about 800 years. Charles"}, {"end": "00:30:04", "start": "00:30:00", "text": "was never told where their home planet"}, {"end": "00:30:06", "start": "00:30:01", "text": "was. He felt they intentionally kept"}, {"end": "00:30:08", "start": "00:30:04", "text": "this a secret. However, when Charles"}, {"end": "00:30:11", "start": "00:30:06", "text": "mentioned the star Arcturus, they became"}, {"end": "00:30:12", "start": "00:30:08", "text": "uncomfortable. Arcturus is in the"}, {"end": "00:30:13", "start": "00:30:11", "text": "constellation of Botus."}, {"end": "00:30:15", "start": "00:30:12", "text": ">> Booties."}, {"end": "00:30:17", "start": "00:30:13", "text": ">> Botus."}, {"end": "00:30:19", "start": "00:30:15", "text": ">> And it says Booties on the teleprompter."}, {"end": "00:30:22", "start": "00:30:17", "text": ">> It's pronounced Botus."}, {"end": "00:30:24", "start": "00:30:19", "text": ">> Whatever. The Black Knight satellite is"}, {"end": "00:30:26", "start": "00:30:22", "text": "supposed to be from Booties."}, {"end": "00:30:29", "start": "00:30:24", "text": ">> Botus. But you're right. That star"}, {"end": "00:30:31", "start": "00:30:26", "text": "system has come up before."}, {"end": "00:30:34", "start": "00:30:29", "text": "Now, despite being a more advanced"}, {"end": "00:30:37", "start": "00:30:31", "text": "species, tall whites secretly fear"}, {"end": "00:30:39", "start": "00:30:34", "text": "humans intuitive capabilities and ESP."}, {"end": "00:30:41", "start": "00:30:37", "text": "They believe it's just a matter of time"}, {"end": "00:30:44", "start": "00:30:39", "text": "before the human race evolves the"}, {"end": "00:30:45", "start": "00:30:41", "text": "ability to tap into these powers. They"}, {"end": "00:30:48", "start": "00:30:44", "text": "believe we'll develop abilities like"}, {"end": "00:30:50", "start": "00:30:45", "text": "telepathy and telekinesis, which is"}, {"end": "00:30:52", "start": "00:30:48", "text": "moving objects with thought. They"}, {"end": "00:30:54", "start": "00:30:50", "text": "believe every human has the ability to"}, {"end": "00:30:56", "start": "00:30:52", "text": "project their consciousness to any place"}, {"end": "00:30:57", "start": "00:30:54", "text": "on Earth or beyond."}, {"end": "00:30:59", "start": "00:30:56", "text": ">> Remote viewing,"}, {"end": "00:31:02", "start": "00:30:57", "text": ">> right? Remote viewing researchers have"}, {"end": "00:31:04", "start": "00:30:59", "text": "said that every human has this ability,"}, {"end": "00:31:07", "start": "00:31:02", "text": "but only a few talented people have been"}, {"end": "00:31:07", "start": "00:31:04", "text": "able to tap into it."}, {"end": "00:31:12", "start": "00:31:08", "text": "Ingo Swan, Pat Price, and Joe McMonagle"}, {"end": "00:31:14", "start": "00:31:10", "text": "were talented remote viewers who worked"}, {"end": "00:31:17", "start": "00:31:12", "text": "for military intelligence."}, {"end": "00:31:18", "start": "00:31:14", "text": ">> And Pat Price was killed because of it."}, {"end": "00:31:20", "start": "00:31:17", "text": "Don't forget"}, {"end": "00:31:21", "start": "00:31:18", "text": ">> that's the theory. Remote viewing links"}, {"end": "00:31:23", "start": "00:31:20", "text": "below."}, {"end": "00:31:25", "start": "00:31:21", "text": ">> Yeah, we have a lot of episodes on that"}, {"end": "00:31:27", "start": "00:31:23", "text": "subject. Well, in total, Charles's"}, {"end": "00:31:32", "start": "00:31:25", "text": "experience with the Tall Whites lasted"}, {"end": "00:31:33", "start": "00:31:27", "text": "just 2 years from 1965 to 1967. In ' 67,"}, {"end": "00:31:36", "start": "00:31:32", "text": "he was deployed to Vietnam, and he never"}, {"end": "00:31:38", "start": "00:31:33", "text": "saw the Tall Whites again."}, {"end": "00:31:40", "start": "00:31:36", "text": "He waited almost 40 years to tell his"}, {"end": "00:31:42", "start": "00:31:38", "text": "story, but when he finally did, other"}, {"end": "00:31:44", "start": "00:31:40", "text": "witnesses came forward who had seen the"}, {"end": "00:31:46", "start": "00:31:42", "text": "tall whites. There was enough firsthand"}, {"end": "00:31:49", "start": "00:31:44", "text": "accounts that researchers started"}, {"end": "00:31:51", "start": "00:31:46", "text": "looking for evidence. The first step was"}, {"end": "00:31:53", "start": "00:31:49", "text": "to try to find the secret facilities"}, {"end": "00:31:57", "start": "00:31:51", "text": "built by the United States government."}, {"end": "00:31:57", "start": "00:31:53", "text": "And somebody found them."}, {"end": "00:32:06", "start": "00:32:01", "text": "When Charles Hall wanted to release his"}, {"end": "00:32:09", "start": "00:32:03", "text": "book, Millennial Hospitality in 2002, no"}, {"end": "00:32:11", "start": "00:32:06", "text": "publisher would take it on, and that was"}, {"end": "00:32:13", "start": "00:32:09", "text": "a mistake."}, {"end": "00:32:15", "start": "00:32:11", "text": "He self-published and the book was a"}, {"end": "00:32:17", "start": "00:32:13", "text": "hit. Two more books followed, and"}, {"end": "00:32:19", "start": "00:32:15", "text": "Charles made the typical rounds, UFO"}, {"end": "00:32:22", "start": "00:32:17", "text": "conventions, book signings. He did a few"}, {"end": "00:32:24", "start": "00:32:19", "text": "TV interviews, even appeared on Coast to"}, {"end": "00:32:25", "start": "00:32:22", "text": "Coast with George Nory in 2005."}, {"end": "00:32:28", "start": "00:32:24", "text": ">> Oh, when you work with aliens, I think"}, {"end": "00:32:29", "start": "00:32:25", "text": "you're legally required to go on Coast"}, {"end": "00:32:32", "start": "00:32:28", "text": "to Coast. Well, if you want to sell"}, {"end": "00:32:34", "start": "00:32:29", "text": "books, that's the show to do. Now, all"}, {"end": "00:32:36", "start": "00:32:32", "text": "this attention brought out skeptics who"}, {"end": "00:32:37", "start": "00:32:34", "text": "wanted to prove Charles wrong, and it"}, {"end": "00:32:39", "start": "00:32:36", "text": "brought out the believers determined to"}, {"end": "00:32:41", "start": "00:32:37", "text": "prove him right. And the more people"}, {"end": "00:32:43", "start": "00:32:39", "text": "that looked into Charles's story, the"}, {"end": "00:32:46", "start": "00:32:41", "text": "more of the story was confirmed to be"}, {"end": "00:32:48", "start": "00:32:43", "text": "true. Charles was at Nellis Air Force"}, {"end": "00:32:50", "start": "00:32:46", "text": "Base when he said he was. He was a"}, {"end": "00:32:52", "start": "00:32:48", "text": "weather observer. He was deployed to"}, {"end": "00:32:53", "start": "00:32:50", "text": "Vietnam in ' 67. All those facts are"}, {"end": "00:32:55", "start": "00:32:52", "text": "easily checked."}, {"end": "00:32:56", "start": "00:32:53", "text": ">> I want to hear about aliens."}, {"end": "00:32:59", "start": "00:32:55", "text": ">> I'm getting to them."}, {"end": "00:33:01", "start": "00:32:56", "text": ">> Get there faster."}, {"end": "00:33:04", "start": "00:32:59", "text": "Some of the best research I found was"}, {"end": "00:33:06", "start": "00:33:01", "text": "done by David Hilton. David's website is"}, {"end": "00:33:08", "start": "00:33:04", "text": "long gone, but it used to say he was a"}, {"end": "00:33:10", "start": "00:33:06", "text": "historian, anthropologist, and"}, {"end": "00:33:12", "start": "00:33:08", "text": "researcher. Now, on David's YouTube"}, {"end": "00:33:14", "start": "00:33:10", "text": "channel, he has a few videos that seem"}, {"end": "00:33:16", "start": "00:33:12", "text": "to confirm that Charles Hall was telling"}, {"end": "00:33:18", "start": "00:33:14", "text": "the truth."}, {"end": "00:33:20", "start": "00:33:16", "text": ">> I had an interest in the story of"}, {"end": "00:33:22", "start": "00:33:18", "text": "Charles Hall and the tall whites for a"}, {"end": "00:33:24", "start": "00:33:20", "text": "number of years. After reading his book,"}, {"end": "00:33:26", "start": "00:33:22", "text": "Millennial Hospitality, I was trying to"}, {"end": "00:33:28", "start": "00:33:24", "text": "locate the positioning of the weather"}, {"end": "00:33:30", "start": "00:33:26", "text": "stations on the bombing gunnery ranges"}, {"end": "00:33:32", "start": "00:33:28", "text": "that he talks about in his book so that"}, {"end": "00:33:34", "start": "00:33:30", "text": "I could better understand the"}, {"end": "00:33:36", "start": "00:33:32", "text": "orientation of the various locations."}, {"end": "00:33:39", "start": "00:33:34", "text": ">> When researching the story, David came"}, {"end": "00:33:41", "start": "00:33:36", "text": "across this photo. At the bottom is"}, {"end": "00:33:43", "start": "00:33:39", "text": "Creech Air Force Base in Indian Springs."}, {"end": "00:33:45", "start": "00:33:41", "text": "Remember, even though Charles was"}, {"end": "00:33:47", "start": "00:33:43", "text": "stationed at Nellis, his work was done"}, {"end": "00:33:50", "start": "00:33:45", "text": "out here at the ranges in and north of"}, {"end": "00:33:52", "start": "00:33:47", "text": "Indian Springs. The photo shows range"}, {"end": "00:33:54", "start": "00:33:50", "text": "one in the southeast, range three just"}, {"end": "00:33:55", "start": "00:33:52", "text": "north of the base, and range four in the"}, {"end": "00:33:56", "start": "00:33:54", "text": "valley."}, {"end": "00:33:58", "start": "00:33:55", "text": ">> Oh, that's Harry's hood,"}, {"end": "00:34:00", "start": "00:33:56", "text": ">> right? That's where range for Harry got"}, {"end": "00:34:02", "start": "00:33:58", "text": "his nickname. But what caught David's"}, {"end": "00:34:05", "start": "00:34:00", "text": "attention were the areas marked"}, {"end": "00:34:08", "start": "00:34:02", "text": "Scoutcraft hanger, Scoutcraft parking,"}, {"end": "00:34:10", "start": "00:34:05", "text": "and resting and play area. Charles talks"}, {"end": "00:34:12", "start": "00:34:08", "text": "about these locations in his books. So,"}, {"end": "00:34:14", "start": "00:34:10", "text": "David opened Google Earth to see what"}, {"end": "00:34:16", "start": "00:34:12", "text": "was out there."}, {"end": "00:34:17", "start": "00:34:14", "text": "Now, before we zoom in, remember how"}, {"end": "00:34:20", "start": "00:34:16", "text": "Charles described the tall white scout"}, {"end": "00:34:22", "start": "00:34:17", "text": "crafts? They're about the size of a bus,"}, {"end": "00:34:24", "start": "00:34:20", "text": "white and elliptical. In David's video,"}, {"end": "00:34:26", "start": "00:34:22", "text": "he shows this image"}, {"end": "00:34:29", "start": "00:34:24", "text": "that looks like the Tic Tac UFO we've"}, {"end": "00:34:32", "start": "00:34:26", "text": "all seen by now. But here's the thing."}, {"end": "00:34:34", "start": "00:34:29", "text": "David released his video 11 years ago,"}, {"end": "00:34:36", "start": "00:34:32", "text": "long before the Tic Tac was made public."}, {"end": "00:34:39", "start": "00:34:34", "text": "Dr. Steven Greer and others claimed the"}, {"end": "00:34:41", "start": "00:34:36", "text": "Tic Tac is a UFO made by Skunk Works at"}, {"end": "00:34:43", "start": "00:34:39", "text": "Loheed Martin. Now, Charles Hall doesn't"}, {"end": "00:34:46", "start": "00:34:41", "text": "specifically name Lockheed, but he does"}, {"end": "00:34:48", "start": "00:34:43", "text": "say that the scout craft are made by"}, {"end": "00:34:53", "start": "00:34:46", "text": "military contractors. Now, let's see"}, {"end": "00:34:55", "start": "00:34:48", "text": "what David finds on Google Earth."}, {"end": "00:34:57", "start": "00:34:53", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:34:59", "start": "00:34:55", "text": "There is some kind of platform and near"}, {"end": "00:35:02", "start": "00:34:57", "text": "the platform, three elliptical white"}, {"end": "00:35:03", "start": "00:34:59", "text": "objects, each about the size of a bus."}, {"end": "00:35:05", "start": "00:35:02", "text": ">> Tic tits."}, {"end": "00:35:06", "start": "00:35:03", "text": ">> They certainly look like it. And even if"}, {"end": "00:35:08", "start": "00:35:05", "text": "they're not alien scout craft,"}, {"end": "00:35:10", "start": "00:35:06", "text": ">> they totally are."}, {"end": "00:35:12", "start": "00:35:08", "text": ">> Fine. But even if they're not, look at"}, {"end": "00:35:15", "start": "00:35:10", "text": "the location. There are no roads or even"}, {"end": "00:35:16", "start": "00:35:12", "text": "walking paths leading to this place. And"}, {"end": "00:35:19", "start": "00:35:15", "text": "this is exactly where Charles said the"}, {"end": "00:35:21", "start": "00:35:16", "text": "craft would be. He also said there was a"}, {"end": "00:35:22", "start": "00:35:19", "text": "recreation area here. That platform"}, {"end": "00:35:24", "start": "00:35:21", "text": "could be what he's talking about."}, {"end": "00:35:27", "start": "00:35:22", "text": ">> To a white shoot. Noops."}, {"end": "00:35:29", "start": "00:35:24", "text": ">> Could be. So David and people in his"}, {"end": "00:35:31", "start": "00:35:27", "text": "audience started scouring Google Earth"}, {"end": "00:35:33", "start": "00:35:29", "text": "around the old bombing ranges."}, {"end": "00:35:34", "start": "00:35:31", "text": ">> Oh, did they find more uh alien"}, {"end": "00:35:38", "start": "00:35:33", "text": "playgrounds?"}, {"end": "00:35:38", "start": "00:35:34", "text": ">> Yep. Lots more."}, {"end": "00:35:45", "start": "00:35:40", "text": "One of the first sites listed on the"}, {"end": "00:35:47", "start": "00:35:42", "text": "video is just off the end of the runway"}, {"end": "00:35:49", "start": "00:35:45", "text": "at Creech Air Force Base. This seems to"}, {"end": "00:35:51", "start": "00:35:47", "text": "agree with Charles Hall's story of the"}, {"end": "00:35:53", "start": "00:35:49", "text": "aliens coming onto the base from the"}, {"end": "00:35:56", "start": "00:35:51", "text": "northwest corner at the end of the"}, {"end": "00:35:56", "start": "00:35:53", "text": "runway."}, {"end": "00:36:09", "start": "00:36:04", "text": "In total, David was able to find 18"}, {"end": "00:36:11", "start": "00:36:07", "text": "separate sites. Other people found a few"}, {"end": "00:36:12", "start": "00:36:09", "text": "more. I included some coordinates in the"}, {"end": "00:36:14", "start": "00:36:11", "text": "description if you want to check them"}, {"end": "00:36:16", "start": "00:36:12", "text": "out for yourself. Now, some of the"}, {"end": "00:36:17", "start": "00:36:14", "text": "locations David shows have been scrubbed"}, {"end": "00:36:18", "start": "00:36:16", "text": "by Google Earth."}, {"end": "00:36:21", "start": "00:36:17", "text": ">> Predictable,"}, {"end": "00:36:23", "start": "00:36:18", "text": ">> but his video is from 2013, so we can"}, {"end": "00:36:25", "start": "00:36:21", "text": "see the locations before they were"}, {"end": "00:36:27", "start": "00:36:23", "text": "erased. Most of them are man-made"}, {"end": "00:36:29", "start": "00:36:25", "text": "structures, but with no apparent access."}, {"end": "00:36:30", "start": "00:36:27", "text": "Yeah, because you access them from"}, {"end": "00:36:33", "start": "00:36:29", "text": "underground."}, {"end": "00:36:35", "start": "00:36:30", "text": ">> That is the theory."}, {"end": "00:36:37", "start": "00:36:33", "text": "But building a tunnel system of this"}, {"end": "00:36:39", "start": "00:36:35", "text": "size underneath the bombing range would"}, {"end": "00:36:41", "start": "00:36:37", "text": "be an enormous undertaking and extremely"}, {"end": "00:36:43", "start": "00:36:39", "text": "expensive."}, {"end": "00:36:45", "start": "00:36:41", "text": "If such a project did indeed occur,"}, {"end": "00:36:46", "start": "00:36:43", "text": "you'd expect there to be evidence."}, {"end": "00:36:47", "start": "00:36:45", "text": ">> There's evidence, isn't there?"}, {"end": "00:36:48", "start": "00:36:46", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"end": "00:36:50", "start": "00:36:47", "text": ">> Yatsi."}, {"end": "00:36:52", "start": "00:36:48", "text": ">> Not only is there evidence of a major"}, {"end": "00:36:57", "start": "00:36:50", "text": "construction project, there's evidence"}, {"end": "00:36:57", "start": "00:36:52", "text": "of a black budget coverup. Y"}, {"end": "00:37:03", "start": "00:36:59", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:37:06", "start": "00:37:01", "text": ">> to build an underground base with miles"}, {"end": "00:37:08", "start": "00:37:03", "text": "and miles of tunnels. It's going to be a"}, {"end": "00:37:10", "start": "00:37:06", "text": "huge undertaking and wildly expensive."}, {"end": "00:37:14", "start": "00:37:08", "text": "But there's evidence that this project"}, {"end": "00:37:14", "start": "00:37:10", "text": "did happen."}, {"end": "00:37:18", "start": "00:37:14", "text": "In January 1951, an article was"}, {"end": "00:37:20", "start": "00:37:16", "text": "published in the Las Vegas Review"}, {"end": "00:37:23", "start": "00:37:18", "text": "Journal and the headline is Indian"}, {"end": "00:37:27", "start": "00:37:20", "text": "Springs project key to defense plans."}, {"end": "00:37:29", "start": "00:37:23", "text": "The project is said to cost $300 million"}, {"end": "00:37:33", "start": "00:37:27", "text": "and that's in 1951. In today's money,"}, {"end": "00:37:35", "start": "00:37:29", "text": "that would be $3.6 billion. For"}, {"end": "00:37:37", "start": "00:37:33", "text": "comparison, that's about what it cost to"}, {"end": "00:37:38", "start": "00:37:35", "text": "build a Freedom Tower in New York. The"}, {"end": "00:37:41", "start": "00:37:37", "text": "article said most of the money was to"}, {"end": "00:37:43", "start": "00:37:38", "text": "build housing and offices. Look at the"}, {"end": "00:37:45", "start": "00:37:41", "text": "base. Do you see billions of dollars"}, {"end": "00:37:48", "start": "00:37:43", "text": "worth of construction anywhere? I don't."}, {"end": "00:37:49", "start": "00:37:45", "text": "So, where'd the money go? Again, the"}, {"end": "00:37:51", "start": "00:37:48", "text": "credit goes to David Hilton for tracking"}, {"end": "00:37:53", "start": "00:37:49", "text": "down this information."}, {"end": "00:37:55", "start": "00:37:51", "text": "According to the article, the contract"}, {"end": "00:37:58", "start": "00:37:53", "text": "was awarded to the McKe Construction"}, {"end": "00:38:00", "start": "00:37:55", "text": "Company in El Paso, Texas. Government"}, {"end": "00:38:02", "start": "00:37:58", "text": "contracts are public information. So,"}, {"end": "00:38:06", "start": "00:38:00", "text": "let's look at the records the McKe"}, {"end": "00:38:06", "start": "00:38:02", "text": "Construction Company has for this job."}, {"end": "00:38:12", "start": "00:38:07", "text": "Job number 1267. Description: Alternate"}, {"end": "00:38:14", "start": "00:38:10", "text": "test site facilities. Location, Las"}, {"end": "00:38:18", "start": "00:38:12", "text": "Vegas, Nevada. Contract started on"}, {"end": "00:38:22", "start": "00:38:14", "text": "December 23rd, 1950 and ended May 23rd,"}, {"end": "00:38:25", "start": "00:38:18", "text": "1951. Total contract cost $680,000."}, {"end": "00:38:29", "start": "00:38:22", "text": ">> Uh my math isn't my strong suit, but uh"}, {"end": "00:38:29", "start": "00:38:25", "text": ">> but about $299 of that $300 million is"}, {"end": "00:38:30", "start": "00:38:29", "text": "missing."}, {"end": "00:38:32", "start": "00:38:29", "text": ">> Black budget."}, {"end": "00:38:35", "start": "00:38:30", "text": ">> It looks that way, but we don't know for"}, {"end": "00:38:37", "start": "00:38:32", "text": "sure. Even the article from 1951 says,"}, {"end": "00:38:39", "start": "00:38:35", "text": "quote, \"The actual details of the"}, {"end": "00:38:42", "start": "00:38:37", "text": "program are cloaked in a security"}, {"end": "00:38:43", "start": "00:38:39", "text": "blackout.\" When Las Vegas residents"}, {"end": "00:38:45", "start": "00:38:42", "text": "learned about the huge construction"}, {"end": "00:38:47", "start": "00:38:43", "text": "project, locals contacted the base"}, {"end": "00:38:50", "start": "00:38:45", "text": "looking for work. They were told the"}, {"end": "00:38:52", "start": "00:38:47", "text": "military would be using no outside labor"}, {"end": "00:38:54", "start": "00:38:50", "text": "for this project, but that 300 million"}, {"end": "00:38:57", "start": "00:38:52", "text": "went somewhere. If we don't see that"}, {"end": "00:38:58", "start": "00:38:54", "text": "money spent above ground, there's only"}, {"end": "00:38:59", "start": "00:38:57", "text": "one other place it could be."}, {"end": "00:39:00", "start": "00:38:58", "text": ">> Underground?"}, {"end": "00:39:04", "start": "00:38:59", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"end": "00:39:04", "start": "00:39:00", "text": ">> Holy shall"}, {"end": "00:39:09", "start": "00:39:06", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:39:13", "start": "00:39:10", "text": "the Tall whites is considered one of the"}, {"end": "00:39:15", "start": "00:39:11", "text": "most credible stories about aliens"}, {"end": "00:39:17", "start": "00:39:13", "text": "living with and working with humans here"}, {"end": "00:39:19", "start": "00:39:15", "text": "on Earth."}, {"end": "00:39:21", "start": "00:39:17", "text": "But is it true? Well, like many of these"}, {"end": "00:39:23", "start": "00:39:19", "text": "stories, we have no physical evidence."}, {"end": "00:39:27", "start": "00:39:21", "text": "We only have the word of the author, in"}, {"end": "00:39:29", "start": "00:39:23", "text": "this case, Charles. Do you believe him?"}, {"end": "00:39:31", "start": "00:39:27", "text": "Well, most of today's story comes from"}, {"end": "00:39:32", "start": "00:39:29", "text": "Charles's books and the documentary"}, {"end": "00:39:34", "start": "00:39:31", "text": "Walking with the Tall Whites. Both"}, {"end": "00:39:37", "start": "00:39:32", "text": "linked below. When Charles tells the"}, {"end": "00:39:38", "start": "00:39:34", "text": "story, he sounds sincere, but I've heard"}, {"end": "00:39:40", "start": "00:39:37", "text": "many stories from people who sound"}, {"end": "00:39:42", "start": "00:39:38", "text": "sincere and turned out to be frauds, and"}, {"end": "00:39:44", "start": "00:39:40", "text": "I've outed a few of them on this"}, {"end": "00:39:46", "start": "00:39:42", "text": "channel. Now, I don't have evidence that"}, {"end": "00:39:49", "start": "00:39:44", "text": "Charles Hall is a fraud, but parts of"}, {"end": "00:39:51", "start": "00:39:46", "text": "his story do bother me. First, he"}, {"end": "00:39:53", "start": "00:39:49", "text": "released his books, and there are six of"}, {"end": "00:39:56", "start": "00:39:51", "text": "them now, as science fiction. Only later"}, {"end": "00:39:57", "start": "00:39:53", "text": "did he say these things really happened."}, {"end": "00:39:59", "start": "00:39:56", "text": "Now, supporters of the story will"}, {"end": "00:40:01", "start": "00:39:57", "text": "mention three other witnesses who were"}, {"end": "00:40:04", "start": "00:39:59", "text": "with Charles at Nellis Air Force Base."}, {"end": "00:40:06", "start": "00:40:01", "text": "They say his story is true, but those"}, {"end": "00:40:08", "start": "00:40:04", "text": "witnesses didn't give their names."}, {"end": "00:40:11", "start": "00:40:06", "text": "They're only known as witnesses A, B,"}, {"end": "00:40:14", "start": "00:40:08", "text": "and C. And to complicate matters, on"}, {"end": "00:40:17", "start": "00:40:11", "text": "January 13th, 2014, Forbes published an"}, {"end": "00:40:19", "start": "00:40:14", "text": "article with a strange headline. Iran"}, {"end": "00:40:22", "start": "00:40:17", "text": "says tall white space aliens control"}, {"end": "00:40:24", "start": "00:40:19", "text": "America. The article says the United"}, {"end": "00:40:25", "start": "00:40:22", "text": "States is ruled by a species of tall"}, {"end": "00:40:28", "start": "00:40:24", "text": "white aliens who made a deal with"}, {"end": "00:40:30", "start": "00:40:25", "text": "President Eisenhower in 1954. The"}, {"end": "00:40:32", "start": "00:40:28", "text": "article also says the tall whites helped"}, {"end": "00:40:34", "start": "00:40:30", "text": "bring the Nazis to power in the 1930s."}, {"end": "00:40:35", "start": "00:40:32", "text": "Apparently, this information was"}, {"end": "00:40:38", "start": "00:40:34", "text": "discovered by Edward Snowden. Wait,"}, {"end": "00:40:40", "start": "00:40:35", "text": "wait, wait, wait. So, so this is real?"}, {"end": "00:40:41", "start": "00:40:38", "text": ">> Uh, no."}, {"end": "00:40:44", "start": "00:40:40", "text": "Forbes was covering a story first"}, {"end": "00:40:46", "start": "00:40:41", "text": "reported by the FARS news agency"}, {"end": "00:40:48", "start": "00:40:44", "text": "operated by the Iranian government."}, {"end": "00:40:50", "start": "00:40:46", "text": "Forbes said the article is most likely"}, {"end": "00:40:52", "start": "00:40:48", "text": "Russian disinformation designed by the"}, {"end": "00:40:54", "start": "00:40:50", "text": "FSB, Russian intelligence."}, {"end": "00:40:56", "start": "00:40:52", "text": ">> Oh, the American media sure loves to"}, {"end": "00:40:56", "start": "00:40:54", "text": "publish Russian disinformation, don't"}, {"end": "00:40:58", "start": "00:40:56", "text": "they?"}, {"end": "00:41:00", "start": "00:40:56", "text": ">> They sure do. Now, I don't believe"}, {"end": "00:41:01", "start": "00:40:58", "text": "anything that comes from the Iranian or"}, {"end": "00:41:03", "start": "00:41:00", "text": "Russian media."}, {"end": "00:41:03", "start": "00:41:01", "text": ">> Oh, but you trust American media?"}, {"end": "00:41:04", "start": "00:41:03", "text": ">> No."}, {"end": "00:41:06", "start": "00:41:03", "text": ">> Yeah, the boy."}, {"end": "00:41:08", "start": "00:41:04", "text": ">> But what if they accidentally got"}, {"end": "00:41:10", "start": "00:41:06", "text": "something right? that the United States"}, {"end": "00:41:13", "start": "00:41:08", "text": "is being controlled by what the article"}, {"end": "00:41:15", "start": "00:41:10", "text": "calls a secret regime."}, {"end": "00:41:16", "start": "00:41:13", "text": "I don't know if Charles Hall is telling"}, {"end": "00:41:19", "start": "00:41:15", "text": "the truth. I don't know if the tall"}, {"end": "00:41:21", "start": "00:41:16", "text": "whites exist. It's up to you to decide."}, {"end": "00:41:24", "start": "00:41:19", "text": "But the secret regime, the shadow"}, {"end": "00:41:26", "start": "00:41:21", "text": "government, I do believe that exists."}, {"end": "00:41:30", "start": "00:41:24", "text": "And I'm far from the only one."}, {"end": "00:41:32", "start": "00:41:26", "text": ">> And the cabal comprises members of the"}, {"end": "00:41:34", "start": "00:41:30", "text": "three sisters. Shadow government,"}, {"end": "00:41:34", "start": "00:41:32", "text": ">> the Council on Foreign Relations,"}, {"end": "00:41:37", "start": "00:41:34", "text": ">> shadow government,"}, {"end": "00:41:37", "start": "00:41:34", "text": ">> the Bilderberers, and the Trilateral"}, {"end": "00:41:38", "start": "00:41:37", "text": "Commission,"}, {"end": "00:41:41", "start": "00:41:37", "text": ">> elected by no one,"}, {"end": "00:41:42", "start": "00:41:38", "text": ">> the International Banking Cartel and"}, {"end": "00:41:43", "start": "00:41:41", "text": ">> accountable to no one."}, {"end": "00:41:44", "start": "00:41:42", "text": ">> The oil cartel,"}, {"end": "00:41:45", "start": "00:41:43", "text": ">> shadow government,"}, {"end": "00:41:47", "start": "00:41:44", "text": ">> members of various intelligence"}, {"end": "00:41:50", "start": "00:41:45", "text": "organizations"}, {"end": "00:41:53", "start": "00:41:47", "text": "and select members of the military unit,"}, {"end": "00:41:54", "start": "00:41:50", "text": "who together have become a shadow"}, {"end": "00:41:58", "start": "00:41:53", "text": "government"}, {"end": "00:42:02", "start": "00:41:54", "text": "of not only the United States,"}, {"end": "00:42:02", "start": "00:41:58", "text": "but of much of the Western world."}, {"end": "00:42:09", "start": "00:42:03", "text": "The plan is well advanced."}, {"end": "00:42:11", "start": "00:42:07", "text": ">> 5 + 0 0."}, {"end": "00:42:13", "start": "00:42:09", "text": ">> I'm still skeptical, but Charles Hall is"}, {"end": "00:42:16", "start": "00:42:11", "text": "a pretty good witness. Um, looking at my"}, {"end": "00:42:18", "start": "00:42:13", "text": "notes, a lot of them. Uh, next is um Oh,"}, {"end": "00:42:22", "start": "00:42:16", "text": "it's a UFO case that's very, very"}, {"end": "00:42:25", "start": "00:42:18", "text": "strange and most of it can't really be"}, {"end": "00:42:30", "start": "00:42:22", "text": "debunked. It's episode 186. It's the"}, {"end": "00:42:33", "start": "00:42:25", "text": "Penturk UFO incident. And I apologize to"}, {"end": "00:42:36", "start": "00:42:30", "text": "anyone who speaks Welsh. I clearly"}, {"end": "00:42:40", "start": "00:42:33", "text": "don't. You have very strange words."}, {"end": "00:42:40", "start": "00:42:36", "text": "Anyway, it's a fun episode."}, {"end": "00:42:46", "start": "00:42:42", "text": "Military surveillance planes circled the"}, {"end": "00:42:49", "start": "00:42:44", "text": "Welsh village of Penturk for 3 days"}, {"end": "00:42:53", "start": "00:42:46", "text": "straight in February 2016. Never"}, {"end": "00:42:55", "start": "00:42:49", "text": "leaving, never landing, just circling."}, {"end": "00:42:57", "start": "00:42:53", "text": "Local police fielded dozens of calls."}, {"end": "00:42:59", "start": "00:42:55", "text": "Residents wanted answers about the"}, {"end": "00:43:01", "start": "00:42:57", "text": "planes. They wanted to know about the"}, {"end": "00:43:03", "start": "00:42:59", "text": "three days of weird lights in the sky."}, {"end": "00:43:06", "start": "00:43:01", "text": "The police said it was probably RAF"}, {"end": "00:43:08", "start": "00:43:03", "text": "training, but they didn't know either."}, {"end": "00:43:10", "start": "00:43:06", "text": "Cass Clark stood outside with her"}, {"end": "00:43:12", "start": "00:43:08", "text": "neighbor Dave on February 26th. They'd"}, {"end": "00:43:14", "start": "00:43:10", "text": "been watching the planes for days."}, {"end": "00:43:17", "start": "00:43:12", "text": "Military aircraft don't circle villages"}, {"end": "00:43:20", "start": "00:43:14", "text": "without a reason. At 2:30 a.m., they got"}, {"end": "00:43:23", "start": "00:43:17", "text": "their answer. A black pyramid appeared"}, {"end": "00:43:26", "start": "00:43:20", "text": "in the sky, 30 stories tall. Within"}, {"end": "00:43:28", "start": "00:43:23", "text": "seconds, combat aircraft swarmed from"}, {"end": "00:43:30", "start": "00:43:26", "text": "every direction. The military wasn't"}, {"end": "00:43:33", "start": "00:43:28", "text": "surprised. They'd been waiting for it."}, {"end": "00:43:36", "start": "00:43:30", "text": "The circling planes, the perfect timing."}, {"end": "00:43:39", "start": "00:43:33", "text": "This was not a coincidence. This was an"}, {"end": "00:43:39", "start": "00:43:36", "text": "ambush."}, {"end": "00:43:49", "start": "00:43:44", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:43:53", "start": "00:43:47", "text": "The pyramid didn't descend through the"}, {"end": "00:43:55", "start": "00:43:49", "text": "night sky above Penturk. It emerged."}, {"end": "00:43:58", "start": "00:43:53", "text": "Cass Clark watched this massive object"}, {"end": "00:44:01", "start": "00:43:55", "text": "materialize point first, not coming down"}, {"end": "00:44:03", "start": "00:43:58", "text": "from above, pushing through from"}, {"end": "00:44:08", "start": "00:44:01", "text": "somewhere else. It reminded Cass of a"}, {"end": "00:44:08", "start": "00:44:03", "text": "knife blade slicing through black paper."}, {"end": "00:44:14", "start": "00:44:09", "text": "This thing was enormous. A thousand feet"}, {"end": "00:44:16", "start": "00:44:12", "text": "long in each side, bigger than the Great"}, {"end": "00:44:20", "start": "00:44:14", "text": "Pyramid of Giza, hovering just above the"}, {"end": "00:44:23", "start": "00:44:16", "text": "tree line. Objects this size make noise."}, {"end": "00:44:27", "start": "00:44:20", "text": "Engines, rotors, something. Not this"}, {"end": "00:44:29", "start": "00:44:23", "text": "object. The pyramid was silent."}, {"end": "00:44:32", "start": "00:44:27", "text": "Dave grabbed Cass's arm. His hand was"}, {"end": "00:44:34", "start": "00:44:29", "text": "shaking. And the pyramid just hung"}, {"end": "00:44:38", "start": "00:44:32", "text": "there, tilted at an angle. Then it"}, {"end": "00:44:41", "start": "00:44:34", "text": "started moving. Not flying, swaying"}, {"end": "00:44:44", "start": "00:44:38", "text": "left, right, left. again. Picture a"}, {"end": "00:44:46", "start": "00:44:41", "text": "pendulum the size of a skyscraper."}, {"end": "00:44:49", "start": "00:44:44", "text": "Nothing that massive should move like"}, {"end": "00:44:49", "start": "00:44:46", "text": "that."}, {"end": "00:44:53", "start": "00:44:49", "text": "Dave started walking toward it. Cass"}, {"end": "00:44:54", "start": "00:44:51", "text": "pulled him back. Whatever this was, they"}, {"end": "00:44:56", "start": "00:44:53", "text": "needed to keep their distance."}, {"end": "00:44:57", "start": "00:44:54", "text": ">> Uh-oh. You get too close, you're going"}, {"end": "00:44:59", "start": "00:44:56", "text": "to get probed."}, {"end": "00:45:01", "start": "00:44:57", "text": ">> They ran to her back gate for a better"}, {"end": "00:45:04", "start": "00:44:59", "text": "view across the fields. The pyramid was"}, {"end": "00:45:07", "start": "00:45:01", "text": "maybe 200 ft up by now, and that's when"}, {"end": "00:45:11", "start": "00:45:04", "text": "the temperature dropped. Not gradually,"}, {"end": "00:45:13", "start": "00:45:07", "text": "instantly. 5\u00b0 C in 3 seconds. Cass could"}, {"end": "00:45:15", "start": "00:45:11", "text": "see her breath. Babes, too. She asked"}, {"end": "00:45:16", "start": "00:45:13", "text": "Dave if he felt it. He said, \"Yeah, it"}, {"end": "00:45:18", "start": "00:45:15", "text": "was freezing.\""}, {"end": "00:45:19", "start": "00:45:16", "text": ">> Yeah, he's right. They really should"}, {"end": "00:45:22", "start": "00:45:18", "text": "warm up the probes before"}, {"end": "00:45:24", "start": "00:45:19", "text": ">> it wasn't a probe."}, {"end": "00:45:27", "start": "00:45:22", "text": "Later, meteorological data would confirm"}, {"end": "00:45:30", "start": "00:45:24", "text": "it. The temperature dropped exactly 5\u00b0"}, {"end": "00:45:33", "start": "00:45:27", "text": "C, exactly when that pyramid appeared."}, {"end": "00:45:35", "start": "00:45:30", "text": "February Wales is cold, but this was"}, {"end": "00:45:37", "start": "00:45:33", "text": "different. Cass said it felt like the"}, {"end": "00:45:39", "start": "00:45:35", "text": "cold wasn't coming from the air. She"}, {"end": "00:45:41", "start": "00:45:37", "text": "could feel it inside her body."}, {"end": "00:45:42", "start": "00:45:39", "text": ">> Still sounds like a probe."}, {"end": "00:45:45", "start": "00:45:41", "text": ">> Okay, go easy with the probe. All right,"}, {"end": "00:45:48", "start": "00:45:42", "text": ">> that's what she said. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:45:50", "start": "00:45:45", "text": ">> The pyramid's underside lit up. Six"}, {"end": "00:45:53", "start": "00:45:48", "text": "lights along one edge burned white hot."}, {"end": "00:45:55", "start": "00:45:50", "text": "Now Cass could see the surface clearly."}, {"end": "00:45:57", "start": "00:45:53", "text": "The texture wasn't smooth like aircraft"}, {"end": "00:46:00", "start": "00:45:55", "text": "metal. It was rough, like it was carved"}, {"end": "00:46:02", "start": "00:45:57", "text": "from black stone. Then something shot"}, {"end": "00:46:04", "start": "00:46:00", "text": "out of the top. It was green and very"}, {"end": "00:46:07", "start": "00:46:02", "text": "bright. So bright Cass had to cover her"}, {"end": "00:46:09", "start": "00:46:04", "text": "eyes. The green object stopped midair,"}, {"end": "00:46:12", "start": "00:46:07", "text": "then started darting in random"}, {"end": "00:46:14", "start": "00:46:09", "text": "directions. It looked agitated."}, {"end": "00:46:16", "start": "00:46:12", "text": "Lightning erupted from the pyramid's"}, {"end": "00:46:18", "start": "00:46:14", "text": "lower corner. But this wasn't weather"}, {"end": "00:46:20", "start": "00:46:16", "text": "lightning. The bolts looked heavy and"}, {"end": "00:46:22", "start": "00:46:18", "text": "thick. Each strike lasted 2 to 3"}, {"end": "00:46:24", "start": "00:46:20", "text": "seconds, and they weren't firing"}, {"end": "00:46:27", "start": "00:46:22", "text": "randomly. They touched specific points"}, {"end": "00:46:30", "start": "00:46:24", "text": "in the field. The lightning acted like"}, {"end": "00:46:32", "start": "00:46:27", "text": "it was looking for something. Four C17"}, {"end": "00:46:36", "start": "00:46:30", "text": "transport planes roared in from the"}, {"end": "00:46:38", "start": "00:46:32", "text": "west, flying low. too low. These planes"}, {"end": "00:46:41", "start": "00:46:36", "text": "were 174 ft long, designed to carry"}, {"end": "00:46:44", "start": "00:46:38", "text": "tanks. They don't fly at chimney height."}, {"end": "00:46:46", "start": "00:46:41", "text": "But here they were. Two in front, wing"}, {"end": "00:46:48", "start": "00:46:44", "text": "tip to wing tip, and two more in back."}, {"end": "00:46:51", "start": "00:46:46", "text": "The green object flashed at the planes."}, {"end": "00:46:54", "start": "00:46:48", "text": "It wasn't attacking. It was signaling"}, {"end": "00:46:56", "start": "00:46:51", "text": "and the message was clear. Follow me."}, {"end": "00:46:59", "start": "00:46:54", "text": "Then it shot west toward Larant. The"}, {"end": "00:47:02", "start": "00:46:56", "text": "C17s banked hard and chased the light."}, {"end": "00:47:06", "start": "00:46:59", "text": "And the pyramid, it started fading away,"}, {"end": "00:47:09", "start": "00:47:02", "text": "not flying away, becoming transparent."}, {"end": "00:47:12", "start": "00:47:06", "text": "But before the pyramid vanished, dozens"}, {"end": "00:47:14", "start": "00:47:09", "text": "of objects launched into the sky. Red"}, {"end": "00:47:16", "start": "00:47:12", "text": "barrel-shaped objects spreading across"}, {"end": "00:47:18", "start": "00:47:14", "text": "the field. Two barrels stopped and"}, {"end": "00:47:25", "start": "00:47:16", "text": "rotated slowly until they were facing"}, {"end": "00:47:25", "start": "00:47:18", "text": "Cass and Dave. Then the objects charged."}, {"end": "00:47:42", "start": "00:47:38", "text": "The red barrels stopped 30 ft away from"}, {"end": "00:47:45", "start": "00:47:40", "text": "Cass and Dave, one in front of each of"}, {"end": "00:47:47", "start": "00:47:42", "text": "them, just hovering there, watching. And"}, {"end": "00:47:49", "start": "00:47:45", "text": "Cass couldn't move. And she wasn't"}, {"end": "00:47:51", "start": "00:47:47", "text": "frozen with fear. She literally couldn't"}, {"end": "00:47:53", "start": "00:47:49", "text": "move her legs. Something was holding her"}, {"end": "00:47:56", "start": "00:47:51", "text": "in place."}, {"end": "00:47:58", "start": "00:47:53", "text": "Dave stood next to her, also stuck. They"}, {"end": "00:48:01", "start": "00:47:56", "text": "could move their eyes, but nothing else."}, {"end": "00:48:03", "start": "00:47:58", "text": "And the paralysis wasn't just physical."}, {"end": "00:48:05", "start": "00:48:01", "text": "When the barrels first approached, Cass"}, {"end": "00:48:08", "start": "00:48:03", "text": "tried to film them, but her phone was"}, {"end": "00:48:11", "start": "00:48:05", "text": "dead. Not low battery, completely dead."}, {"end": "00:48:14", "start": "00:48:08", "text": "The barrel on the left drifted closer."}, {"end": "00:48:16", "start": "00:48:11", "text": "20 ft, then 10. Now Cass could see"}, {"end": "00:48:19", "start": "00:48:14", "text": "through it. The object was made of"}, {"end": "00:48:22", "start": "00:48:16", "text": "something translucent, like red glass."}, {"end": "00:48:24", "start": "00:48:19", "text": "And inside, thousands of tiny points of"}, {"end": "00:48:27", "start": "00:48:22", "text": "light swirled around like static from an"}, {"end": "00:48:29", "start": "00:48:24", "text": "old TV, but the static wasn't random."}, {"end": "00:48:32", "start": "00:48:27", "text": "The specks were mixing and reforming"}, {"end": "00:48:35", "start": "00:48:29", "text": "into patterns. The thing looked alive."}, {"end": "00:48:37", "start": "00:48:32", "text": "The barrel on the right just watched."}, {"end": "00:48:39", "start": "00:48:35", "text": "Cass felt it studying them. She was"}, {"end": "00:48:41", "start": "00:48:37", "text": "terrified, but there was nothing she"}, {"end": "00:48:43", "start": "00:48:39", "text": "could do. Then the closer barrel changed"}, {"end": "00:48:46", "start": "00:48:41", "text": "from red to green instantly, like"}, {"end": "00:48:49", "start": "00:48:43", "text": "someone flipped a switch. Green light"}, {"end": "00:48:51", "start": "00:48:46", "text": "washed over them. It felt warm and"}, {"end": "00:48:52", "start": "00:48:49", "text": "tingly. The light went through her,"}, {"end": "00:48:55", "start": "00:48:51", "text": "through her skin, through muscle,"}, {"end": "00:48:58", "start": "00:48:52", "text": "through bone. The sensation lasted maybe"}, {"end": "00:49:01", "start": "00:48:55", "text": "30 seconds. Though time felt strange,"}, {"end": "00:49:03", "start": "00:48:58", "text": "like everything was in slow motion. When"}, {"end": "00:49:06", "start": "00:49:01", "text": "the green light faded, Cass felt"}, {"end": "00:49:08", "start": "00:49:03", "text": "different. Her fear was gone. She felt"}, {"end": "00:49:10", "start": "00:49:06", "text": "energized and alert, and she had this"}, {"end": "00:49:12", "start": "00:49:08", "text": "overwhelming need to talk about what"}, {"end": "00:49:15", "start": "00:49:10", "text": "happened. Then both barrels started to"}, {"end": "00:49:17", "start": "00:49:12", "text": "slowly back away. They rose higher and"}, {"end": "00:49:20", "start": "00:49:15", "text": "drifted west over the rooftops toward"}, {"end": "00:49:21", "start": "00:49:17", "text": "Lrasant. Cass flexed her fingers. Dave"}, {"end": "00:49:23", "start": "00:49:20", "text": "shook his head like he was clearing"}, {"end": "00:49:25", "start": "00:49:21", "text": "water from his ears. They could move"}, {"end": "00:49:28", "start": "00:49:23", "text": "again, but the green barrel had left"}, {"end": "00:49:30", "start": "00:49:25", "text": "something behind. Years later, Cass"}, {"end": "00:49:33", "start": "00:49:28", "text": "learned her nervous system was"}, {"end": "00:49:35", "start": "00:49:30", "text": "generating a constant electric signal, a"}, {"end": "00:49:37", "start": "00:49:33", "text": "repeating pattern that shouldn't exist"}, {"end": "00:49:40", "start": "00:49:35", "text": "in human biology. The signal would spike"}, {"end": "00:49:43", "start": "00:49:37", "text": "and change like her body was"}, {"end": "00:49:45", "start": "00:49:40", "text": "transmitting data."}, {"end": "00:49:47", "start": "00:49:43", "text": "Meanwhile, calls flooded the Cardiff"}, {"end": "00:49:50", "start": "00:49:45", "text": "police station. Lights in the sky,"}, {"end": "00:49:52", "start": "00:49:47", "text": "military aircraft everywhere. Planes"}, {"end": "00:49:54", "start": "00:49:50", "text": "were flying so low, houses were shaking"}, {"end": "00:49:56", "start": "00:49:52", "text": "like there was an earthquake. Furniture"}, {"end": "00:49:58", "start": "00:49:54", "text": "was knocked over, pictures falling off"}, {"end": "00:50:01", "start": "00:49:56", "text": "walls. By 3:00 a.m., the police were"}, {"end": "00:50:04", "start": "00:49:58", "text": "overwhelmed. And they had no answers."}, {"end": "00:50:06", "start": "00:50:01", "text": "But the planes kept coming. And then"}, {"end": "00:50:09", "start": "00:50:04", "text": "came the helicopters. Lots of them."}, {"end": "00:50:12", "start": "00:50:06", "text": "Apache gunships roared over Penturk in"}, {"end": "00:50:14", "start": "00:50:09", "text": "pyramid formation. attack helicopters"}, {"end": "00:50:16", "start": "00:50:12", "text": "armed with Hellfire missiles. They swept"}, {"end": "00:50:18", "start": "00:50:14", "text": "the field, but the objects were gone."}, {"end": "00:50:21", "start": "00:50:16", "text": "Then they turned hard toward Lantrasant,"}, {"end": "00:50:23", "start": "00:50:18", "text": "following the same path as the barrels."}, {"end": "00:50:25", "start": "00:50:21", "text": "More combat helicopters arrived."}, {"end": "00:50:28", "start": "00:50:23", "text": "Chinooks from the west, Puma links and"}, {"end": "00:50:30", "start": "00:50:25", "text": "Merlin from the north. The sky filled"}, {"end": "00:50:32", "start": "00:50:28", "text": "with military aircraft, all heading in"}, {"end": "00:50:35", "start": "00:50:30", "text": "the same direction. Dave and Cass wanted"}, {"end": "00:50:37", "start": "00:50:32", "text": "to follow, but the Welsh countryside in"}, {"end": "00:50:39", "start": "00:50:35", "text": "winter is pitch black. No street lights,"}, {"end": "00:50:40", "start": "00:50:37", "text": "no moon through the clouds. They"}, {"end": "00:50:43", "start": "00:50:39", "text": "couldn't see anything. They'd have to"}, {"end": "00:50:46", "start": "00:50:40", "text": "wait for daylight. When Cass got home,"}, {"end": "00:50:50", "start": "00:50:43", "text": "she felt strange, disoriented. She"}, {"end": "00:50:52", "start": "00:50:46", "text": "checked the clock. 3:50 a.m. But that"}, {"end": "00:50:54", "start": "00:50:50", "text": "couldn't be right. They were outside for"}, {"end": "00:50:57", "start": "00:50:52", "text": "no longer than 15 minutes, but somehow"}, {"end": "00:51:00", "start": "00:50:54", "text": "an hour and 20 minutes had disappeared."}, {"end": "00:51:02", "start": "00:50:57", "text": "Cass caught a reflection in the window."}, {"end": "00:51:05", "start": "00:51:00", "text": "Something was different. She leaned"}, {"end": "00:51:08", "start": "00:51:02", "text": "closer. A single strand of her hair had"}, {"end": "00:51:08", "start": "00:51:05", "text": "turned white."}, {"end": "00:51:18", "start": "00:51:13", "text": "At 4:21 a.m., two explosions shook"}, {"end": "00:51:20", "start": "00:51:16", "text": "Penturk. The first one was an air burst."}, {"end": "00:51:23", "start": "00:51:18", "text": "Witnesses said it sounded like thunder,"}, {"end": "00:51:25", "start": "00:51:20", "text": "but sharper. The second explosion was"}, {"end": "00:51:27", "start": "00:51:23", "text": "different."}, {"end": "00:51:30", "start": "00:51:25", "text": "A ground impact somewhere along Smile"}, {"end": "00:51:32", "start": "00:51:27", "text": "Woods shook every house in the village."}, {"end": "00:51:34", "start": "00:51:30", "text": "At the local hospital, patients thought"}, {"end": "00:51:38", "start": "00:51:32", "text": "a bomb had gone off. The explosions"}, {"end": "00:51:39", "start": "00:51:34", "text": "registered on seismographs 40 m away."}, {"end": "00:51:41", "start": "00:51:38", "text": "But something else happened that night"}, {"end": "00:51:44", "start": "00:51:39", "text": "that was more frightened parents than"}, {"end": "00:51:47", "start": "00:51:41", "text": "the explosions. Their children couldn't"}, {"end": "00:51:47", "start": "00:51:44", "text": "wake up."}, {"end": "00:51:52", "start": "00:51:47", "text": "All the kids in the area slept through"}, {"end": "00:51:54", "start": "00:51:49", "text": "all this noise. Explosions, planes,"}, {"end": "00:51:57", "start": "00:51:52", "text": "helicopters, sirens. One mother told"}, {"end": "00:51:59", "start": "00:51:54", "text": "investigators this was the first time in"}, {"end": "00:52:01", "start": "00:51:57", "text": "10 years her kids didn't wake up in the"}, {"end": "00:52:04", "start": "00:51:59", "text": "middle of the night."}, {"end": "00:52:06", "start": "00:52:01", "text": "The next morning, Cass's hair had turned"}, {"end": "00:52:09", "start": "00:52:04", "text": "white. Not just that single strand, and"}, {"end": "00:52:12", "start": "00:52:06", "text": "not gray, white. Yesterday, she had dark"}, {"end": "00:52:15", "start": "00:52:09", "text": "hair. Now she looked 10 years older."}, {"end": "00:52:16", "start": "00:52:12", "text": "Cass, Dave, and another neighbor, Steve,"}, {"end": "00:52:18", "start": "00:52:15", "text": "went to check the field where the"}, {"end": "00:52:20", "start": "00:52:16", "text": "pyramid appeared. They expected to find"}, {"end": "00:52:23", "start": "00:52:18", "text": "the ground burned from the lightning"}, {"end": "00:52:27", "start": "00:52:20", "text": "strikes. Everything looked wrong. The"}, {"end": "00:52:28", "start": "00:52:23", "text": "grass was brown. The bushes were dead."}, {"end": "00:52:31", "start": "00:52:27", "text": "Everything that had been under the"}, {"end": "00:52:36", "start": "00:52:28", "text": "pyramid's path was drained of life. Not"}, {"end": "00:52:36", "start": "00:52:31", "text": "burned, not broken, just dead."}, {"end": "00:52:46", "start": "00:52:40", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:52:48", "start": "00:52:44", "text": "The trees along the edge of the field"}, {"end": "00:52:51", "start": "00:52:46", "text": "were dry and lifeless, but only the side"}, {"end": "00:52:53", "start": "00:52:48", "text": "that faced the pyramid. The rest of each"}, {"end": "00:52:56", "start": "00:52:51", "text": "tree, even branches on the same trunk,"}, {"end": "00:52:59", "start": "00:52:53", "text": "were perfectly healthy. But things got"}, {"end": "00:53:02", "start": "00:52:56", "text": "stranger. Snow was falling, but only"}, {"end": "00:53:04", "start": "00:52:59", "text": "there, only in the dead zone. And this"}, {"end": "00:53:07", "start": "00:53:02", "text": "wasn't normal snow. The flakes were"}, {"end": "00:53:09", "start": "00:53:04", "text": "tiny, spongy pellets, and they didn't"}, {"end": "00:53:11", "start": "00:53:07", "text": "melt when you touched them. They just"}, {"end": "00:53:13", "start": "00:53:09", "text": "dissolved into nothing."}, {"end": "00:53:15", "start": "00:53:11", "text": "They hopped in their car and drove west"}, {"end": "00:53:17", "start": "00:53:13", "text": "toward Larant Common, following the path"}, {"end": "00:53:20", "start": "00:53:15", "text": "of the objects and the aircraft. For"}, {"end": "00:53:22", "start": "00:53:17", "text": "years, locals had dumped old appliances"}, {"end": "00:53:25", "start": "00:53:20", "text": "in the common. It became like a giant"}, {"end": "00:53:27", "start": "00:53:22", "text": "junkyard. Washing machines, bike frames,"}, {"end": "00:53:30", "start": "00:53:25", "text": "car parts, they were scattered all over"}, {"end": "00:53:31", "start": "00:53:27", "text": "the common, but not today. Now"}, {"end": "00:53:34", "start": "00:53:30", "text": "everything was stacked in neat piles"}, {"end": "00:53:36", "start": "00:53:31", "text": "along the side of the road. Someone had"}, {"end": "00:53:39", "start": "00:53:34", "text": "searched, sorted, and organized all the"}, {"end": "00:53:41", "start": "00:53:36", "text": "metal in the area. Yellow crime scene"}, {"end": "00:53:43", "start": "00:53:39", "text": "tape hung from the bushes, but there was"}, {"end": "00:53:46", "start": "00:53:41", "text": "no pattern to it, no perimeter, just"}, {"end": "00:53:48", "start": "00:53:43", "text": "random strips fluttering in the wind. A"}, {"end": "00:53:50", "start": "00:53:46", "text": "dog walker told them he'd been out at"}, {"end": "00:53:53", "start": "00:53:48", "text": "4:30 that morning. He saw military"}, {"end": "00:53:55", "start": "00:53:50", "text": "helicopters landing. troops jumped out"}, {"end": "00:53:57", "start": "00:53:53", "text": "with metal detectors. They were"}, {"end": "00:54:00", "start": "00:53:55", "text": "searching for something that crashed in"}, {"end": "00:54:00", "start": "00:53:57", "text": "Smillock Woods."}, {"end": "00:54:05", "start": "00:54:01", "text": "So that's where they headed next. They"}, {"end": "00:54:09", "start": "00:54:02", "text": "found the impact site in minutes. Six"}, {"end": "00:54:11", "start": "00:54:05", "text": "trees each 60 ft tall snapped in half."}, {"end": "00:54:15", "start": "00:54:09", "text": "Not at the base, 20 ft up where the"}, {"end": "00:54:17", "start": "00:54:11", "text": "trunks were 12 in thick."}, {"end": "00:54:20", "start": "00:54:15", "text": "All six brakes formed a perfect line"}, {"end": "00:54:22", "start": "00:54:17", "text": "pointing back toward Penturk. Trees"}, {"end": "00:54:25", "start": "00:54:20", "text": "don't snap like that. Not from wind, not"}, {"end": "00:54:28", "start": "00:54:22", "text": "from aircraft. Whatever hit those trees"}, {"end": "00:54:30", "start": "00:54:25", "text": "had been moving fast. Really fast."}, {"end": "00:54:33", "start": "00:54:28", "text": "Faster than anything that exists on"}, {"end": "00:54:33", "start": "00:54:30", "text": "Earth."}, {"end": "00:54:43", "start": "00:54:39", "text": "Immediately, all public areas were"}, {"end": "00:54:46", "start": "00:54:41", "text": "closed. Multiple highways were shut"}, {"end": "00:54:48", "start": "00:54:43", "text": "down, including the M4 motorway. The"}, {"end": "00:54:50", "start": "00:54:46", "text": "official reason was a truck overturned."}, {"end": "00:54:52", "start": "00:54:48", "text": "The locals didn't buy it. You don't"}, {"end": "00:54:55", "start": "00:54:50", "text": "close half of South Wales for one truck"}, {"end": "00:54:57", "start": "00:54:52", "text": "accident."}, {"end": "00:55:00", "start": "00:54:55", "text": "A camp appeared overnight in the fields"}, {"end": "00:55:03", "start": "00:54:57", "text": "behind Cass's house. Perfect rows of"}, {"end": "00:55:05", "start": "00:55:00", "text": "civilian tents. Too perfect. As Cass"}, {"end": "00:55:06", "start": "00:55:03", "text": "would say later, \"You could take the man"}, {"end": "00:55:09", "start": "00:55:05", "text": "out of the army, but you can't take the"}, {"end": "00:55:11", "start": "00:55:06", "text": "army out of the man.\" Steve, Dave, and"}, {"end": "00:55:13", "start": "00:55:09", "text": "Donna, another friend, went with Cass to"}, {"end": "00:55:15", "start": "00:55:11", "text": "investigate. The men at the camp were"}, {"end": "00:55:17", "start": "00:55:13", "text": "clearly military. They weren't wearing"}, {"end": "00:55:19", "start": "00:55:15", "text": "uniforms, but they were heavily armed."}, {"end": "00:55:21", "start": "00:55:17", "text": "They said they were conducting a"}, {"end": "00:55:23", "start": "00:55:19", "text": "fracking survey. That was the wrong"}, {"end": "00:55:24", "start": "00:55:21", "text": "cover story. Fracking wasn't allowed in"}, {"end": "00:55:26", "start": "00:55:23", "text": "that part of Wales."}, {"end": "00:55:28", "start": "00:55:24", "text": ">> How dare you?"}, {"end": "00:55:30", "start": "00:55:26", "text": ">> Later they switched stories. Now they"}, {"end": "00:55:33", "start": "00:55:28", "text": "were from Vodafone, a large phone"}, {"end": "00:55:35", "start": "00:55:30", "text": "company. They were checking cell tower"}, {"end": "00:55:37", "start": "00:55:33", "text": "locations. But why does a phone company"}, {"end": "00:55:39", "start": "00:55:35", "text": "have men in white forensic suits"}, {"end": "00:55:41", "start": "00:55:37", "text": "crawling on their hands and knees in the"}, {"end": "00:55:43", "start": "00:55:39", "text": "woods? And why does a phone company have"}, {"end": "00:55:44", "start": "00:55:41", "text": "employees in hazmat gear carrying"}, {"end": "00:55:47", "start": "00:55:43", "text": "assault rifles?"}, {"end": "00:55:50", "start": "00:55:44", "text": ">> Have you seen the cancellation fees? The"}, {"end": "00:55:52", "start": "00:55:47", "text": "surveyors acted strange. Every time"}, {"end": "00:55:53", "start": "00:55:50", "text": "someone walked past, the hazmat workers"}, {"end": "00:55:56", "start": "00:55:52", "text": "would stop what they were doing and"}, {"end": "00:55:57", "start": "00:55:53", "text": "stand up. They'd just stand there and"}, {"end": "00:56:00", "start": "00:55:56", "text": "stare at you until you were out of"}, {"end": "00:56:02", "start": "00:55:57", "text": "sight. As Cass and her friends circled"}, {"end": "00:56:04", "start": "00:56:00", "text": "the area, they heard shouting. Three"}, {"end": "00:56:06", "start": "00:56:02", "text": "teams with electronic equipment and"}, {"end": "00:56:08", "start": "00:56:04", "text": "laptops were walking through the woods."}, {"end": "00:56:11", "start": "00:56:06", "text": "Someone kept saying, \"Find it. Find it."}, {"end": "00:56:13", "start": "00:56:08", "text": "Find it.\" Now, meanwhile, more witnesses"}, {"end": "00:56:16", "start": "00:56:11", "text": "were coming forward. Jacob Coleman had"}, {"end": "00:56:18", "start": "00:56:13", "text": "seen the green object near Laresant in a"}, {"end": "00:56:20", "start": "00:56:16", "text": "standoff with Apache helicopters. He"}, {"end": "00:56:24", "start": "00:56:18", "text": "said the green light didn't move like a"}, {"end": "00:56:26", "start": "00:56:20", "text": "machine. It moved like it was alive. A"}, {"end": "00:56:28", "start": "00:56:24", "text": "family in Calbridge photographed"}, {"end": "00:56:31", "start": "00:56:26", "text": "barrel-shaped objects flying over their"}, {"end": "00:56:34", "start": "00:56:28", "text": "house at 2:33 a.m. The metadata proved"}, {"end": "00:56:36", "start": "00:56:31", "text": "it. Same night, same time as Penturk,"}, {"end": "00:56:38", "start": "00:56:34", "text": "the barrels were heading west, being"}, {"end": "00:56:41", "start": "00:56:36", "text": "chased by military aircraft towards"}, {"end": "00:56:43", "start": "00:56:38", "text": "Smileog Woods. Smileog Woods is a public"}, {"end": "00:56:46", "start": "00:56:41", "text": "area. It can't be closed without"}, {"end": "00:56:49", "start": "00:56:43", "text": "permission. But now the whole area was"}, {"end": "00:56:51", "start": "00:56:46", "text": "locked down and patrolled. Witnesses had"}, {"end": "00:56:54", "start": "00:56:49", "text": "been camping in Smileog Woods. They saw"}, {"end": "00:56:56", "start": "00:56:51", "text": "an object crash. Those witnesses were"}, {"end": "00:56:59", "start": "00:56:54", "text": "assaulted, illegally detained, illegally"}, {"end": "00:57:01", "start": "00:56:56", "text": "searched, and forcibly removed by armed"}, {"end": "00:57:05", "start": "00:56:59", "text": "military personnel. Their phones were"}, {"end": "00:57:05", "start": "00:57:01", "text": "taken and wiped."}, {"end": "00:57:10", "start": "00:57:05", "text": "One witness drove through chunks of"}, {"end": "00:57:12", "start": "00:57:07", "text": "crystal scattered across a road, red and"}, {"end": "00:57:15", "start": "00:57:10", "text": "white crystal. It was like broken glass,"}, {"end": "00:57:18", "start": "00:57:12", "text": "but heavier and thicker. The debris"}, {"end": "00:57:20", "start": "00:57:15", "text": "field from one of the destroyed barrels."}, {"end": "00:57:22", "start": "00:57:18", "text": "At Cardiff Airport, an Apache helicopter"}, {"end": "00:57:25", "start": "00:57:20", "text": "made an emergency landing with its"}, {"end": "00:57:27", "start": "00:57:22", "text": "cockpit on fire. The official story was"}, {"end": "00:57:30", "start": "00:57:25", "text": "a mechanical failure. It had taken off"}, {"end": "00:57:32", "start": "00:57:27", "text": "from St. Athen Air Force Base at 4:24"}, {"end": "00:57:34", "start": "00:57:30", "text": "a.m., just 3 minutes after the"}, {"end": "00:57:37", "start": "00:57:32", "text": "explosion. It made multiple trips to the"}, {"end": "00:57:39", "start": "00:57:34", "text": "crash site that night, transporting"}, {"end": "00:57:41", "start": "00:57:37", "text": "something. And whenever they recovered,"}, {"end": "00:57:45", "start": "00:57:39", "text": "someone important wanted to see it. A"}, {"end": "00:57:48", "start": "00:57:41", "text": "BAE 146 jet with the call sign Kittyhawk"}, {"end": "00:57:50", "start": "00:57:45", "text": "landed at dawn and left an hour later."}, {"end": "00:57:53", "start": "00:57:48", "text": "This plane only flies VIPs like the"}, {"end": "00:57:54", "start": "00:57:50", "text": "prime minister and the royal family. The"}, {"end": "00:57:57", "start": "00:57:53", "text": "next morning, the military had an"}, {"end": "00:57:59", "start": "00:57:54", "text": "explanation ready. This was all part of"}, {"end": "00:58:02", "start": "00:57:57", "text": "exercise Chameleon."}, {"end": "00:58:03", "start": "00:57:59", "text": ">> A chameleon is a type, is it? Chameleon"}, {"end": "00:58:05", "start": "00:58:02", "text": "was just a routine training drill."}, {"end": "00:58:07", "start": "00:58:03", "text": "That's what they told the few reporters"}, {"end": "00:58:09", "start": "00:58:05", "text": "who asked. Just a war game. Nothing"}, {"end": "00:58:12", "start": "00:58:07", "text": "really to see here. But you don't fly"}, {"end": "00:58:14", "start": "00:58:09", "text": "C17s over a residential area in the"}, {"end": "00:58:16", "start": "00:58:12", "text": "middle of the night. You don't fly two"}, {"end": "00:58:19", "start": "00:58:14", "text": "dozen helicopters around a hospital. You"}, {"end": "00:58:21", "start": "00:58:16", "text": "don't explode ordinance so large it"}, {"end": "00:58:23", "start": "00:58:19", "text": "registers on the RTOR scale. And you"}, {"end": "00:58:25", "start": "00:58:21", "text": "don't have Apache helicopters making"}, {"end": "00:58:28", "start": "00:58:23", "text": "emergency landings with their cockpits"}, {"end": "00:58:30", "start": "00:58:25", "text": "on fire during routine drills. Exercise"}, {"end": "00:58:33", "start": "00:58:28", "text": "Chameleon didn't make sense. human. They"}, {"end": "00:58:35", "start": "00:58:30", "text": "are saying the quiet part out loud."}, {"end": "00:58:36", "start": "00:58:33", "text": "They're literally telling us it's lizard"}, {"end": "00:58:39", "start": "00:58:35", "text": "people."}, {"end": "00:58:40", "start": "00:58:36", "text": ">> Yeah, I'm pretty sure it wasn't."}, {"end": "00:58:42", "start": "00:58:39", "text": ">> Please stop that."}, {"end": "00:58:43", "start": "00:58:40", "text": ">> What was that?"}, {"end": "00:58:46", "start": "00:58:42", "text": ">> I'm begging you."}, {"end": "00:58:48", "start": "00:58:43", "text": ">> Fine. Fine. I'm sorry. I take it back."}, {"end": "00:58:50", "start": "00:58:46", "text": ">> NATO reconnaissance aircraft have been"}, {"end": "00:58:52", "start": "00:58:48", "text": "circling overhead during the entire"}, {"end": "00:58:54", "start": "00:58:50", "text": "incident. An E3 Century Command"}, {"end": "00:58:57", "start": "00:58:52", "text": "aircraft, the kind that coordinates"}, {"end": "00:59:01", "start": "00:58:54", "text": "combat operations. Those planes cost"}, {"end": "00:59:04", "start": "00:58:57", "text": "$270 million and can track over 250"}, {"end": "00:59:08", "start": "00:59:01", "text": "fastmoving targets simultaneously from"}, {"end": "00:59:10", "start": "00:59:04", "text": "250 m away. The surveillance planes had"}, {"end": "00:59:13", "start": "00:59:08", "text": "civilian transponders, private security"}, {"end": "00:59:15", "start": "00:59:10", "text": "registrations. The military was hiding"}, {"end": "00:59:16", "start": "00:59:13", "text": "their own aircraft from radar. They"}, {"end": "00:59:19", "start": "00:59:15", "text": "didn't want a record of what they were"}, {"end": "00:59:24", "start": "00:59:16", "text": "hunting. One plane stood out. The Hawker"}, {"end": "00:59:26", "start": "00:59:19", "text": "Beachcraft Shadow R1 call sign Snake 48."}, {"end": "00:59:30", "start": "00:59:24", "text": "That plane was decommissioned in 2012,"}, {"end": "00:59:32", "start": "00:59:26", "text": "but in 2014, it came back after a top"}, {"end": "00:59:35", "start": "00:59:30", "text": "secret refit. For 2 years, nobody knew"}, {"end": "00:59:38", "start": "00:59:32", "text": "where it was or what modifications it"}, {"end": "00:59:40", "start": "00:59:35", "text": "received. Now, it was here flying search"}, {"end": "00:59:41", "start": "00:59:38", "text": "patterns over Penturk. They knew"}, {"end": "00:59:44", "start": "00:59:40", "text": "something was coming, and whatever they"}, {"end": "00:59:47", "start": "00:59:41", "text": "added to that plane, it was designed to"}, {"end": "00:59:47", "start": "00:59:44", "text": "find it."}, {"end": "00:59:59", "start": "00:59:55", "text": "Cass started documenting everything."}, {"end": "01:00:01", "start": "00:59:57", "text": "Taking photos of the camp, recording"}, {"end": "01:00:04", "start": "00:59:59", "text": "registration numbers of unmarked"}, {"end": "01:00:07", "start": "01:00:01", "text": "vehicles, asking questions, simple ones"}, {"end": "01:00:09", "start": "01:00:04", "text": "at first. What military exercise? Why"}, {"end": "01:00:11", "start": "01:00:07", "text": "weren't residents warned? The military"}, {"end": "01:00:14", "start": "01:00:09", "text": "of defense had a simple answer. There"}, {"end": "01:00:17", "start": "01:00:11", "text": "was no exercise."}, {"end": "01:00:20", "start": "01:00:14", "text": "But that made no sense."}, {"end": "01:00:22", "start": "01:00:17", "text": "Wales online posted at 3:39 a.m. that"}, {"end": "01:00:24", "start": "01:00:20", "text": "night saying they were covering the"}, {"end": "01:00:26", "start": "01:00:22", "text": "incident, but no story ever appeared. No"}, {"end": "01:00:29", "start": "01:00:24", "text": "press briefing ever happened. The media"}, {"end": "01:00:31", "start": "01:00:26", "text": "went silent. Cass filed freedom of"}, {"end": "01:00:33", "start": "01:00:29", "text": "information requests. Dozens of them."}, {"end": "01:00:35", "start": "01:00:31", "text": "Governments don't like these requests."}, {"end": "01:00:38", "start": "01:00:33", "text": "They delay. They deny. They claim"}, {"end": "01:00:40", "start": "01:00:35", "text": "national security. Cass didn't care. At"}, {"end": "01:00:43", "start": "01:00:38", "text": "first, the MOD denied any military"}, {"end": "01:00:45", "start": "01:00:40", "text": "presence in Penturk. Then they admitted"}, {"end": "01:00:47", "start": "01:00:43", "text": "it but claimed section 26, national"}, {"end": "01:00:49", "start": "01:00:45", "text": "defense. They said they didn't need"}, {"end": "01:00:51", "start": "01:00:47", "text": "permission from residents to conduct the"}, {"end": "01:00:53", "start": "01:00:49", "text": "exercise."}, {"end": "01:00:55", "start": "01:00:51", "text": "Wrong. The Defense Infrastructure"}, {"end": "01:00:58", "start": "01:00:53", "text": "Organization requires written permission"}, {"end": "01:01:01", "start": "01:00:55", "text": "for all exercises on private land 21"}, {"end": "01:01:04", "start": "01:00:58", "text": "days in advance from every landowner,"}, {"end": "01:01:06", "start": "01:01:01", "text": "but nobody was informed or consented."}, {"end": "01:01:09", "start": "01:01:04", "text": "Natural Resources Wales owns Smileog"}, {"end": "01:01:11", "start": "01:01:06", "text": "Woods, the location of the crash site."}, {"end": "01:01:13", "start": "01:01:09", "text": "They gave no permission for military"}, {"end": "01:01:15", "start": "01:01:11", "text": "activity, no permission to close public"}, {"end": "01:01:18", "start": "01:01:13", "text": "paths, and definitely no permission to"}, {"end": "01:01:20", "start": "01:01:15", "text": "set off explosives."}, {"end": "01:01:22", "start": "01:01:18", "text": "They wrote, \"This type of activity would"}, {"end": "01:01:24", "start": "01:01:20", "text": "have required permission. If it had"}, {"end": "01:01:26", "start": "01:01:22", "text": "occurred, we'd have a record.\" The"}, {"end": "01:01:28", "start": "01:01:24", "text": "hospital changed their story three"}, {"end": "01:01:31", "start": "01:01:26", "text": "times. First, they said no one warned"}, {"end": "01:01:33", "start": "01:01:28", "text": "them about military exercise. Explosions"}, {"end": "01:01:35", "start": "01:01:31", "text": "shook patients awake in their beds, but"}, {"end": "01:01:37", "start": "01:01:33", "text": "they received no advanced notice. Then"}, {"end": "01:01:40", "start": "01:01:35", "text": "they said the South Wales police warned"}, {"end": "01:01:41", "start": "01:01:37", "text": "them about a counterterrorism exercise."}, {"end": "01:01:44", "start": "01:01:40", "text": "The hospital apologized for their"}, {"end": "01:01:46", "start": "01:01:41", "text": "previous response, stating that new"}, {"end": "01:01:48", "start": "01:01:44", "text": "information had come to light."}, {"end": "01:01:50", "start": "01:01:46", "text": ">> Yeah, certain things have come to light"}, {"end": "01:01:52", "start": "01:01:48", "text": "and uh you know uh has it ever occurred"}, {"end": "01:01:55", "start": "01:01:50", "text": "to you that uh instead of you know"}, {"end": "01:01:58", "start": "01:01:52", "text": "running around uh blaming me given the"}, {"end": "01:02:01", "start": "01:01:55", "text": "nature of all this uh new new stuff you"}, {"end": "01:02:03", "start": "01:01:58", "text": "know it it this could be a lot more uh h"}, {"end": "01:02:06", "start": "01:02:01", "text": "complex. So, I mean, it's not just it"}, {"end": "01:02:09", "start": "01:02:03", "text": "might not be just a simple uh uh you"}, {"end": "01:02:09", "start": "01:02:06", "text": "know,"}, {"end": "01:02:14", "start": "01:02:09", "text": ">> the hospital even provided an excerpt"}, {"end": "01:02:16", "start": "01:02:11", "text": "from an email about exercises running"}, {"end": "01:02:19", "start": "01:02:14", "text": "from 11:00 p.m. to 3:00 a.m. on February"}, {"end": "01:02:22", "start": "01:02:16", "text": "25th and 26th. When investigator Gary"}, {"end": "01:02:24", "start": "01:02:19", "text": "Jones asked for proof, the hospital said"}, {"end": "01:02:26", "start": "01:02:22", "text": "they didn't have the email. So, how do"}, {"end": "01:02:26", "start": "01:02:24", "text": "you quote from an email that you don't"}, {"end": "01:02:28", "start": "01:02:26", "text": "have?"}, {"end": "01:02:29", "start": "01:02:26", "text": ">> Oh, maybe the email was on Hillary's"}, {"end": "01:02:31", "start": "01:02:28", "text": "server."}, {"end": "01:02:33", "start": "01:02:29", "text": ">> Wait, wait, what's what what's our rule?"}, {"end": "01:02:34", "start": "01:02:31", "text": "We don't joke about the Clintons. You're"}, {"end": "01:02:37", "start": "01:02:33", "text": "right. You're right. Go ahead."}, {"end": "01:02:40", "start": "01:02:34", "text": ">> So Cass contacted the South Wales police"}, {"end": "01:02:42", "start": "01:02:37", "text": "11 times. Cass asked if they conducted"}, {"end": "01:02:44", "start": "01:02:40", "text": "counterterrorism exercises that night."}, {"end": "01:02:47", "start": "01:02:42", "text": "Their response was always, \"We can"}, {"end": "01:02:48", "start": "01:02:44", "text": "neither confirm nor deny.\" That's not a"}, {"end": "01:02:50", "start": "01:02:47", "text": "legal answer under Freedom of"}, {"end": "01:02:53", "start": "01:02:48", "text": "Information rules. You either have"}, {"end": "01:02:55", "start": "01:02:50", "text": "information or you don't. It turned out"}, {"end": "01:02:57", "start": "01:02:53", "text": "that the South Wales Police never"}, {"end": "01:02:59", "start": "01:02:55", "text": "conducted counterterrorism exercises"}, {"end": "01:03:01", "start": "01:02:57", "text": "those nights. The chief of police said"}, {"end": "01:03:02", "start": "01:02:59", "text": "so."}, {"end": "01:03:05", "start": "01:03:01", "text": "They did have counterterrorism training"}, {"end": "01:03:08", "start": "01:03:02", "text": "that past June, but not on February 25th"}, {"end": "01:03:10", "start": "01:03:05", "text": "or 26th. Regardless, the public is"}, {"end": "01:03:13", "start": "01:03:08", "text": "always informed about these types of"}, {"end": "01:03:15", "start": "01:03:10", "text": "operations, but not this time. The"}, {"end": "01:03:18", "start": "01:03:13", "text": "hospital lied, then lied about lying."}, {"end": "01:03:20", "start": "01:03:15", "text": "The police lied, then lied about lying."}, {"end": "01:03:22", "start": "01:03:18", "text": "Oh, the journalist who wrote those first"}, {"end": "01:03:25", "start": "01:03:20", "text": "cover stories for Wales online. After 15"}, {"end": "01:03:27", "start": "01:03:22", "text": "years, she quit. Her new job,"}, {"end": "01:03:29", "start": "01:03:25", "text": "communications officer for the Royal"}, {"end": "01:03:31", "start": "01:03:27", "text": "Glamorgan Hospital. the same hospital"}, {"end": "01:03:33", "start": "01:03:29", "text": "that couldn't keep its story straight."}, {"end": "01:03:35", "start": "01:03:31", "text": "Investigators believed someone was"}, {"end": "01:03:37", "start": "01:03:33", "text": "trying to tie up loose ends. The excuses"}, {"end": "01:03:40", "start": "01:03:35", "text": "kept coming. When asked why troops"}, {"end": "01:03:42", "start": "01:03:37", "text": "collected scrap metal at 4:30 a.m., the"}, {"end": "01:03:44", "start": "01:03:40", "text": "MOD claimed national security. Old"}, {"end": "01:03:48", "start": "01:03:42", "text": "washing machines and broken bicycles"}, {"end": "01:03:50", "start": "01:03:44", "text": "were suddenly classified."}, {"end": "01:03:52", "start": "01:03:48", "text": "Cass searched the official MOD website"}, {"end": "01:03:55", "start": "01:03:50", "text": "for any record of Exercise Chameleon."}, {"end": "01:03:58", "start": "01:03:52", "text": "Buried in the site, she found a notam. A"}, {"end": "01:04:00", "start": "01:03:55", "text": "notam is a notice to airmen that warns"}, {"end": "01:04:02", "start": "01:03:58", "text": "commercial and civilian pilots not to"}, {"end": "01:04:04", "start": "01:04:00", "text": "enter certain airspace. These notices"}, {"end": "01:04:06", "start": "01:04:02", "text": "are required before any exercise"}, {"end": "01:04:08", "start": "01:04:04", "text": "involving aircraft to prevent"}, {"end": "01:04:10", "start": "01:04:06", "text": "collisions. They have to be filed at"}, {"end": "01:04:13", "start": "01:04:08", "text": "least 5 days before the exercise. This"}, {"end": "01:04:16", "start": "01:04:10", "text": "NOTAM was filed at 9:00 p.m. on February"}, {"end": "01:04:19", "start": "01:04:13", "text": "25th, 9 hours before the pyramid"}, {"end": "01:04:23", "start": "01:04:16", "text": "appeared. Worse, military aircraft flew"}, {"end": "01:04:24", "start": "01:04:19", "text": "50 mi outside the NOTAM boundary. You"}, {"end": "01:04:26", "start": "01:04:23", "text": "never leave your airspace during"}, {"end": "01:04:28", "start": "01:04:24", "text": "exercises. That's how midair collisions"}, {"end": "01:04:31", "start": "01:04:26", "text": "happen, unless you're chasing something"}, {"end": "01:04:33", "start": "01:04:28", "text": "that isn't following your flight plan."}, {"end": "01:04:35", "start": "01:04:31", "text": "The smoking gun came from the Air"}, {"end": "01:04:37", "start": "01:04:33", "text": "Commission Secretariat, the MOD's"}, {"end": "01:04:39", "start": "01:04:35", "text": "highest authority. He wrote, \"I can"}, {"end": "01:04:41", "start": "01:04:37", "text": "confirm that no information in the scope"}, {"end": "01:04:43", "start": "01:04:39", "text": "of your request is held. There were no"}, {"end": "01:04:47", "start": "01:04:41", "text": "programmed air defense exercises in"}, {"end": "01:04:50", "start": "01:04:43", "text": "South Wales in February 2016."}, {"end": "01:04:52", "start": "01:04:47", "text": "No exercise, no permission, no warning."}, {"end": "01:04:54", "start": "01:04:50", "text": "Everything that happened that night was"}, {"end": "01:04:56", "start": "01:04:52", "text": "illegal. Cass Clark had just declared"}, {"end": "01:05:01", "start": "01:04:54", "text": "war on the Ministry of Defense and the"}, {"end": "01:05:01", "start": "01:04:56", "text": "MOD would fight back."}, {"end": "01:05:14", "start": "01:05:10", "text": "The Pentark UFO incident is one of the"}, {"end": "01:05:16", "start": "01:05:12", "text": "most compelling I've ever covered."}, {"end": "01:05:18", "start": "01:05:14", "text": "Multiple witnesses, government"}, {"end": "01:05:20", "start": "01:05:16", "text": "documents, photographs."}, {"end": "01:05:22", "start": "01:05:18", "text": "But is it true? Well, let's start with"}, {"end": "01:05:24", "start": "01:05:20", "text": "what we know. Cass Clark spent eight"}, {"end": "01:05:26", "start": "01:05:22", "text": "years gathering evidence and fighting"}, {"end": "01:05:29", "start": "01:05:24", "text": "the Ministry of Defense and they fought"}, {"end": "01:05:31", "start": "01:05:26", "text": "back. Cass was threatened, followed."}, {"end": "01:05:33", "start": "01:05:29", "text": "Military personnel have been seen at her"}, {"end": "01:05:35", "start": "01:05:31", "text": "presentations. Just 2 days after the"}, {"end": "01:05:38", "start": "01:05:33", "text": "event, she was nearly run off the road"}, {"end": "01:05:41", "start": "01:05:35", "text": "by a black SUV. But Cass never gave up"}, {"end": "01:05:42", "start": "01:05:38", "text": "and eventually the MOD had to issue a"}, {"end": "01:05:44", "start": "01:05:41", "text": "statement. They claimed this was all"}, {"end": "01:05:47", "start": "01:05:42", "text": "part of their scheduled training,"}, {"end": "01:05:49", "start": "01:05:44", "text": "Operation Chameleon. But Operation"}, {"end": "01:05:52", "start": "01:05:47", "text": "Chameleon actually took place a week"}, {"end": "01:05:55", "start": "01:05:49", "text": "earlier in Northern England, not Wales."}, {"end": "01:05:58", "start": "01:05:52", "text": "She proved they lied. She proved 20"}, {"end": "01:06:00", "start": "01:05:55", "text": "helicopters, four transport planes, and"}, {"end": "01:06:02", "start": "01:05:58", "text": "ground troops operated illegally over"}, {"end": "01:06:04", "start": "01:06:00", "text": "civilian areas. But what about the Black"}, {"end": "01:06:06", "start": "01:06:02", "text": "Pyramid and the red and green barrels?"}, {"end": "01:06:07", "start": "01:06:04", "text": "Can they be explained?"}, {"end": "01:06:08", "start": "01:06:06", "text": ">> No."}, {"end": "01:06:09", "start": "01:06:07", "text": ">> Maybe."}, {"end": "01:06:12", "start": "01:06:08", "text": ">> The pyramid could have been a"}, {"end": "01:06:15", "start": "01:06:09", "text": "misidentified aircraft. C7s flying in"}, {"end": "01:06:17", "start": "01:06:12", "text": "formation might create a triangular"}, {"end": "01:06:19", "start": "01:06:15", "text": "shape. And modern stealth tech can make"}, {"end": "01:06:20", "start": "01:06:17", "text": "aircraft pretty quiet. The red and green"}, {"end": "01:06:22", "start": "01:06:19", "text": "objects could have been drop zone"}, {"end": "01:06:24", "start": "01:06:20", "text": "markers. The lights paratroopers use"}, {"end": "01:06:26", "start": "01:06:22", "text": "during night jumps, or they could have"}, {"end": "01:06:29", "start": "01:06:24", "text": "been flares. From the ground, multiple"}, {"end": "01:06:31", "start": "01:06:26", "text": "lights descending slowly might look like"}, {"end": "01:06:33", "start": "01:06:29", "text": "the edges of something massive. Except"}, {"end": "01:06:36", "start": "01:06:31", "text": "Cass was right below the drop zone. She"}, {"end": "01:06:38", "start": "01:06:33", "text": "saw no parachutes, no soldiers, just"}, {"end": "01:06:40", "start": "01:06:36", "text": "objects that moved horizontally, changed"}, {"end": "01:06:43", "start": "01:06:38", "text": "direction instantly, and studied her"}, {"end": "01:06:45", "start": "01:06:40", "text": "from 30 ft away. Paratroopers can't do"}, {"end": "01:06:46", "start": "01:06:43", "text": "that. Yeah, I bet the 82nd Airborne can."}, {"end": "01:06:49", "start": "01:06:45", "text": ">> They can't."}, {"end": "01:06:52", "start": "01:06:46", "text": ">> 802 sort away."}, {"end": "01:06:54", "start": "01:06:49", "text": ">> Then there's Cass's lost time. High"}, {"end": "01:06:57", "start": "01:06:52", "text": "stress situations mess with your memory."}, {"end": "01:06:58", "start": "01:06:54", "text": "You ever fall or drop something and it"}, {"end": "01:07:01", "start": "01:06:57", "text": "feels like it's happening in slow"}, {"end": "01:07:02", "start": "01:06:58", "text": "motion. When your adrenaline spikes,"}, {"end": "01:07:05", "start": "01:07:01", "text": "your brain doesn't process time"}, {"end": "01:07:07", "start": "01:07:02", "text": "normally. Everything slows down to give"}, {"end": "01:07:09", "start": "01:07:05", "text": "you time to react. Now, Apache"}, {"end": "01:07:11", "start": "01:07:07", "text": "helicopters carry powerful radar and"}, {"end": "01:07:13", "start": "01:07:09", "text": "jamming equipment. That might explain"}, {"end": "01:07:15", "start": "01:07:11", "text": "why phones didn't work. Yeah, these"}, {"end": "01:07:17", "start": "01:07:13", "text": "explanations are pretty thin, boy."}, {"end": "01:07:19", "start": "01:07:15", "text": ">> I admit that they are. I'm just telling"}, {"end": "01:07:22", "start": "01:07:17", "text": "you what the skeptics say, but this is a"}, {"end": "01:07:24", "start": "01:07:19", "text": "hard one to debunk. Witnesses said the"}, {"end": "01:07:26", "start": "01:07:22", "text": "pyramid didn't descend from the sky. It"}, {"end": "01:07:29", "start": "01:07:24", "text": "emerged through space. That technology"}, {"end": "01:07:31", "start": "01:07:26", "text": "doesn't exist. The MOD claimed the"}, {"end": "01:07:34", "start": "01:07:29", "text": "explosions were controlled detonations"}, {"end": "01:07:36", "start": "01:07:31", "text": "of simulated munitions. But simulated"}, {"end": "01:07:39", "start": "01:07:34", "text": "munitions don't register on seismic"}, {"end": "01:07:40", "start": "01:07:36", "text": "grass 40 m away. And you know how they"}, {"end": "01:07:42", "start": "01:07:39", "text": "close the roads because of a truck"}, {"end": "01:07:45", "start": "01:07:40", "text": "crash? We can't prove that because all"}, {"end": "01:07:47", "start": "01:07:42", "text": "the CCTV was turned off that night."}, {"end": "01:07:48", "start": "01:07:45", "text": ">> Oh, that happens in certain jail cells"}, {"end": "01:07:50", "start": "01:07:47", "text": "from time to time."}, {"end": "01:07:52", "start": "01:07:48", "text": ">> Easy with that."}, {"end": "01:07:54", "start": "01:07:50", "text": "The debris field was confirmed by"}, {"end": "01:07:56", "start": "01:07:52", "text": "multiple witnesses. Cass's hair really"}, {"end": "01:07:58", "start": "01:07:54", "text": "did turn white overnight. Doctors"}, {"end": "01:08:01", "start": "01:07:56", "text": "couldn't explain it, but exposure to"}, {"end": "01:08:03", "start": "01:07:58", "text": "radiation does explain it. And Cass is"}, {"end": "01:08:05", "start": "01:08:01", "text": "shown all the symptoms of radiation"}, {"end": "01:08:06", "start": "01:08:03", "text": "sickness. And you know how they"}, {"end": "01:08:09", "start": "01:08:05", "text": "discovered the radiation and that"}, {"end": "01:08:12", "start": "01:08:06", "text": "strange signal Cass was emitting during"}, {"end": "01:08:14", "start": "01:08:09", "text": "one of the three lie detector tests she"}, {"end": "01:08:16", "start": "01:08:12", "text": "passed. Almost 2 years after the event,"}, {"end": "01:08:19", "start": "01:08:14", "text": "the radiation level at the site was"}, {"end": "01:08:22", "start": "01:08:16", "text": "still harmful to humans. It took 5 years"}, {"end": "01:08:25", "start": "01:08:19", "text": "for the area to clear. Surveillance"}, {"end": "01:08:28", "start": "01:08:22", "text": "plane circled for 3 days. Fact. The no"}, {"end": "01:08:32", "start": "01:08:25", "text": "TAM appeared 9 hours before, not the"}, {"end": "01:08:34", "start": "01:08:28", "text": "required 5 days. Fact. $4.5 billion"}, {"end": "01:08:37", "start": "01:08:32", "text": "dollars in military assets was deployed"}, {"end": "01:08:39", "start": "01:08:34", "text": "that night. Fact. Snake 48, a plane that"}, {"end": "01:08:42", "start": "01:08:37", "text": "officially doesn't exist, was flying"}, {"end": "01:08:46", "start": "01:08:39", "text": "search patterns. Fact. Were they waiting"}, {"end": "01:08:48", "start": "01:08:42", "text": "for a UFO? We don't know."}, {"end": "01:08:51", "start": "01:08:46", "text": "The mainstream skeptical view is that"}, {"end": "01:08:53", "start": "01:08:48", "text": "the Penturk UFO incident was a military"}, {"end": "01:08:56", "start": "01:08:51", "text": "operation. To me, this isn't really a"}, {"end": "01:08:58", "start": "01:08:53", "text": "story about the UFO. It's about the"}, {"end": "01:09:00", "start": "01:08:56", "text": "cover up. the UK government, the Welsh"}, {"end": "01:09:03", "start": "01:08:58", "text": "government, the South Wales police, the"}, {"end": "01:09:05", "start": "01:09:00", "text": "hospital, dozens, maybe hundreds of"}, {"end": "01:09:07", "start": "01:09:03", "text": "people lied to the public. If there was"}, {"end": "01:09:10", "start": "01:09:05", "text": "a UFO encounter, I think the people of"}, {"end": "01:09:12", "start": "01:09:07", "text": "Penturk deserve to know because if this"}, {"end": "01:09:14", "start": "01:09:10", "text": "was just a military exercise, then"}, {"end": "01:09:16", "start": "01:09:12", "text": "countless laws were broken that"}, {"end": "01:09:18", "start": "01:09:14", "text": "terrified local residents and put them"}, {"end": "01:09:20", "start": "01:09:16", "text": "in real danger."}, {"end": "01:09:22", "start": "01:09:18", "text": "So, I have one question for the Ministry"}, {"end": "01:09:25", "start": "01:09:20", "text": "of Defense, the Welsh government, and"}, {"end": "01:09:28", "start": "01:09:22", "text": "the South Wales Police. Just one. My"}, {"end": "01:09:30", "start": "01:09:25", "text": "question isn't was there a UFO? My"}, {"end": "01:09:33", "start": "01:09:28", "text": "question is why aren't any of you in"}, {"end": "01:09:33", "start": "01:09:30", "text": "jail"}, {"end": "01:09:42", "start": "01:09:40", "text": "0."}, {"end": "01:09:45", "start": "01:09:41", "text": ">> Now, I don't know if there were aliens"}, {"end": "01:09:48", "start": "01:09:42", "text": "in that story, but all that military"}, {"end": "01:09:50", "start": "01:09:45", "text": "activity, all those cover-ups, the road"}, {"end": "01:09:53", "start": "01:09:48", "text": "being blocked, all the lies, that was"}, {"end": "01:09:56", "start": "01:09:50", "text": "all true. Aoy human. I've commandeered a"}, {"end": "01:09:57", "start": "01:09:53", "text": "United States Navy stealth vessel. I'm"}, {"end": "01:10:00", "start": "01:09:56", "text": "safe in international waters."}, {"end": "01:10:03", "start": "01:09:57", "text": ">> Here you are, sir. Belvadier Martini,"}, {"end": "01:10:04", "start": "01:10:00", "text": "shaken, not stirred. Pearl onions."}, {"end": "01:10:07", "start": "01:10:03", "text": ">> Uh, thanks, honey."}, {"end": "01:10:08", "start": "01:10:04", "text": ">> Wait a second. Your Navy stealth vessel"}, {"end": "01:10:12", "start": "01:10:07", "text": "has cocktail service."}, {"end": "01:10:16", "start": "01:10:08", "text": ">> Uh, well, this is the modern US Navy."}, {"end": "01:10:17", "start": "01:10:12", "text": "Don't blame me. Blame blame Pete Het."}, {"end": "01:10:19", "start": "01:10:16", "text": ">> Now, ladies and gentlemen, if you'll"}, {"end": "01:10:23", "start": "01:10:17", "text": "look to your left, you'll see the Hoover"}, {"end": "01:10:25", "start": "01:10:19", "text": "Dam. It was opened in 1935 and took"}, {"end": "01:10:27", "start": "01:10:23", "text": "three years to build. Now go ahead and"}, {"end": "01:10:29", "start": "01:10:25", "text": "treat yourself and take some damn"}, {"end": "01:10:31", "start": "01:10:27", "text": "pictures."}, {"end": "01:10:33", "start": "01:10:29", "text": "I I'm just I'm kidding, of course."}, {"end": "01:10:36", "start": "01:10:31", "text": ">> Uh yeah, I think your stealth vessel is"}, {"end": "01:10:37", "start": "01:10:33", "text": "actually a Lake me tourboat."}, {"end": "01:10:40", "start": "01:10:36", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "01:10:43", "start": "01:10:37", "text": ">> Oh no. I think Gertie's having trouble"}, {"end": "01:10:44", "start": "01:10:40", "text": "with his sea legs or sea humps, whatever"}, {"end": "01:10:45", "start": "01:10:43", "text": "camels you have."}, {"end": "01:10:47", "start": "01:10:44", "text": ">> You brought Gertie?"}, {"end": "01:10:48", "start": "01:10:45", "text": ">> She's my emotional support unulate. Now,"}, {"end": "01:10:51", "start": "01:10:47", "text": "ladies and gentlemen, if you look to"}, {"end": "01:10:54", "start": "01:10:48", "text": "your right, you'll see a Hey, wait a"}, {"end": "01:10:57", "start": "01:10:51", "text": "minute. Is Is that a talking goldfish?"}, {"end": "01:10:58", "start": "01:10:54", "text": ">> Ah, my cover's blown. Morgan, counter"}, {"end": "01:11:00", "start": "01:10:57", "text": "measures."}, {"end": "01:11:01", "start": "01:10:58", "text": ">> Uh, which button is counter measures"}, {"end": "01:11:03", "start": "01:11:00", "text": "again, boss?"}, {"end": "01:11:05", "start": "01:11:01", "text": ">> No, for crying out loud. The green"}, {"end": "01:11:06", "start": "01:11:03", "text": "button."}, {"end": "01:11:08", "start": "01:11:05", "text": ">> Oh, no."}, {"end": "01:11:11", "start": "01:11:06", "text": ">> What is going on?"}, {"end": "01:11:13", "start": "01:11:08", "text": ">> We just deployed decoy flares. Uh,"}, {"end": "01:11:15", "start": "01:11:11", "text": "Morgan, hit the red button. Uh, in all"}, {"end": "01:11:17", "start": "01:11:13", "text": "fairness, he's color blind. So, uh, so"}, {"end": "01:11:19", "start": "01:11:15", "text": "this one's on me. Is that the fire"}, {"end": "01:11:19", "start": "01:11:17", "text": "alarm? Shouldn't you get on a lifeboat"}, {"end": "01:11:22", "start": "01:11:19", "text": "or something?"}, {"end": "01:11:25", "start": "01:11:19", "text": ">> Yeah, I'm a freshwater fish with three"}, {"end": "01:11:27", "start": "01:11:22", "text": "beavers and one very buoyant camel."}, {"end": "01:11:28", "start": "01:11:25", "text": "We're going to be just fine."}, {"end": "01:11:30", "start": "01:11:27", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "01:11:35", "start": "01:11:28", "text": ">> Ah, yeah. This sounds like a human"}, {"end": "01:11:35", "start": "01:11:30", "text": "problem to me. Peace out."}, {"end": "01:11:40", "start": "01:11:35", "text": ">> I'm sure he won't be back for a while."}, {"end": "01:11:43", "start": "01:11:38", "text": "Um, next up is an episode that made me a"}, {"end": "01:11:45", "start": "01:11:40", "text": "believer. Crop circles. So when I"}, {"end": "01:11:47", "start": "01:11:43", "text": "started writing the episode, I was"}, {"end": "01:11:51", "start": "01:11:45", "text": "totally convinced that crop circles were"}, {"end": "01:11:53", "start": "01:11:47", "text": "just all fake guys with ropes and"}, {"end": "01:11:55", "start": "01:11:51", "text": "boards. And then by the time I got"}, {"end": "01:11:59", "start": "01:11:53", "text": "finished with the episode, I'm pretty"}, {"end": "01:12:02", "start": "01:11:55", "text": "sure that crop circles are real. 99%"}, {"end": "01:12:06", "start": "01:11:59", "text": "aren't, but 1% just cannot be explained."}, {"end": "01:12:09", "start": "01:12:02", "text": "This is a wild one and a long one. See"}, {"end": "01:12:09", "start": "01:12:06", "text": "you in a bit."}, {"end": "01:12:16", "start": "01:12:10", "text": "In 1974, a group of scientists beamed a"}, {"end": "01:12:18", "start": "01:12:13", "text": "message into space. The message meant to"}, {"end": "01:12:20", "start": "01:12:16", "text": "be received by an intelligent alien"}, {"end": "01:12:23", "start": "01:12:18", "text": "species described life on Earth. Written"}, {"end": "01:12:25", "start": "01:12:20", "text": "in simple binary code and using the most"}, {"end": "01:12:27", "start": "01:12:23", "text": "powerful radio telescope on the planet,"}, {"end": "01:12:29", "start": "01:12:25", "text": "the message was broadcast to a dense"}, {"end": "01:12:31", "start": "01:12:27", "text": "cluster of stars in the constellation of"}, {"end": "01:12:33", "start": "01:12:29", "text": "Hercules. This exercise was just"}, {"end": "01:12:36", "start": "01:12:31", "text": "ceremonial, a way to demonstrate new"}, {"end": "01:12:37", "start": "01:12:33", "text": "technology in radio astronomy. Nobody"}, {"end": "01:12:40", "start": "01:12:36", "text": "was really expected to receive it. And"}, {"end": "01:12:42", "start": "01:12:37", "text": "even if they did, it wouldn't be anytime"}, {"end": "01:12:44", "start": "01:12:40", "text": "soon. The nearest star in the direction"}, {"end": "01:12:47", "start": "01:12:42", "text": "of the broadcast is 25,000 lighty years"}, {"end": "01:12:50", "start": "01:12:44", "text": "away. So the telescope was tuned to 2380"}, {"end": "01:12:52", "start": "01:12:47", "text": "MHz, aimed at Hercules, and fired up."}, {"end": "01:12:53", "start": "01:12:50", "text": "The scientists congratulated each other,"}, {"end": "01:12:56", "start": "01:12:52", "text": "shook hands, and went on with their"}, {"end": "01:12:58", "start": "01:12:53", "text": "lives. But 27 years later, something"}, {"end": "01:13:01", "start": "01:12:56", "text": "very unexpected happened with that"}, {"end": "01:13:04", "start": "01:12:58", "text": "message beamed into deep space. Someone"}, {"end": "01:13:04", "start": "01:13:01", "text": "wrote back."}, {"end": "01:13:11", "start": "01:13:05", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "01:13:13", "start": "01:13:08", "text": "One morning in 1966, George Pedley was"}, {"end": "01:13:15", "start": "01:13:11", "text": "working his farm in Tully, Queensland,"}, {"end": "01:13:17", "start": "01:13:13", "text": "Australia, when he heard a strange"}, {"end": "01:13:19", "start": "01:13:15", "text": "buzzing sound. He climbed down from his"}, {"end": "01:13:22", "start": "01:13:17", "text": "tractor and started walking in the"}, {"end": "01:13:24", "start": "01:13:19", "text": "direction of the sound. Then he saw a"}, {"end": "01:13:27", "start": "01:13:22", "text": "circular craft slowly rise above a"}, {"end": "01:13:29", "start": "01:13:24", "text": "section of swamp land not 50 ft from"}, {"end": "01:13:31", "start": "01:13:27", "text": "where he was standing. The craft hovered"}, {"end": "01:13:34", "start": "01:13:29", "text": "for a few seconds, shot straight up into"}, {"end": "01:13:36", "start": "01:13:31", "text": "the sky, and disappeared. When George"}, {"end": "01:13:38", "start": "01:13:34", "text": "went to investigate, he found a large"}, {"end": "01:13:40", "start": "01:13:36", "text": "circle of reads had been pulled from the"}, {"end": "01:13:43", "start": "01:13:38", "text": "swamp, and flattened into a disc. The"}, {"end": "01:13:46", "start": "01:13:40", "text": "circle was 30 ft across, 2 ft thick, and"}, {"end": "01:13:48", "start": "01:13:43", "text": "arranged in a clockwise swirl. Because"}, {"end": "01:13:51", "start": "01:13:46", "text": "of the swirl and the thickness of the"}, {"end": "01:13:53", "start": "01:13:48", "text": "reeds, locals called the formation a UFO"}, {"end": "01:13:56", "start": "01:13:51", "text": "nest. But what this actually was was a"}, {"end": "01:13:58", "start": "01:13:53", "text": "crop circle."}, {"end": "01:14:00", "start": "01:13:56", "text": "Since the 1960s, thousands of crop"}, {"end": "01:14:02", "start": "01:13:58", "text": "circles or crop formations have been"}, {"end": "01:14:04", "start": "01:14:00", "text": "found. They've been seen on every"}, {"end": "01:14:06", "start": "01:14:02", "text": "continent in almost every country on"}, {"end": "01:14:08", "start": "01:14:04", "text": "Earth. But the epicenter for crop"}, {"end": "01:14:11", "start": "01:14:06", "text": "formations is Wiltshire in the southwest"}, {"end": "01:14:16", "start": "01:14:08", "text": "of England. Crop formations range from"}, {"end": "01:14:18", "start": "01:14:11", "text": "the very simple to the very complex."}, {"end": "01:14:20", "start": "01:14:16", "text": "Formations can be circles, stars, and"}, {"end": "01:14:22", "start": "01:14:18", "text": "other geometric shapes, but some are"}, {"end": "01:14:24", "start": "01:14:20", "text": "pictograms, though nobody knows for sure"}, {"end": "01:14:26", "start": "01:14:22", "text": "what they mean. Though every formation"}, {"end": "01:14:29", "start": "01:14:24", "text": "is different, they have a few things in"}, {"end": "01:14:31", "start": "01:14:26", "text": "common. Recognizable patterns that are"}, {"end": "01:14:33", "start": "01:14:29", "text": "created very quickly, usually at night."}, {"end": "01:14:35", "start": "01:14:31", "text": "The creation of these patterns is always"}, {"end": "01:14:37", "start": "01:14:33", "text": "associated with some kind of light,"}, {"end": "01:14:40", "start": "01:14:35", "text": "either a beam of light or an orb of"}, {"end": "01:14:40", "start": "01:14:37", "text": "light."}, {"end": "01:14:46", "start": "01:14:41", "text": "Whatever that is, that's moving on."}, {"end": "01:14:55", "start": "01:14:51", "text": ">> Oh my god."}, {"end": "01:14:57", "start": "01:14:53", "text": "Though crop formations seem like a new"}, {"end": "01:15:00", "start": "01:14:55", "text": "phenomenon, there's evidence they've"}, {"end": "01:15:02", "start": "01:14:57", "text": "been appearing for a long time. In the"}, {"end": "01:15:04", "start": "01:15:00", "text": "9th century, Abagard, the bishop of"}, {"end": "01:15:06", "start": "01:15:02", "text": "Leyon in France, wrote about"}, {"end": "01:15:08", "start": "01:15:04", "text": "parishioners who are possibly engaged in"}, {"end": "01:15:10", "start": "01:15:06", "text": "devil worship or paganism. They were"}, {"end": "01:15:12", "start": "01:15:08", "text": "collecting seeds out of flattened"}, {"end": "01:15:16", "start": "01:15:10", "text": "circles in the fields and using them for"}, {"end": "01:15:18", "start": "01:15:12", "text": "fertility rituals. In 1686, Robert Plot,"}, {"end": "01:15:20", "start": "01:15:16", "text": "a professor at Oxford, wrote about crop"}, {"end": "01:15:22", "start": "01:15:18", "text": "circles. He even drew pictures of a"}, {"end": "01:15:24", "start": "01:15:20", "text": "couple that appeared near his home. He"}, {"end": "01:15:26", "start": "01:15:22", "text": "said they were formed by a flash of"}, {"end": "01:15:28", "start": "01:15:24", "text": "light. And once they were formed,"}, {"end": "01:15:30", "start": "01:15:26", "text": "animals wouldn't go near them. Around"}, {"end": "01:15:32", "start": "01:15:28", "text": "the same time, a pamphlet was released"}, {"end": "01:15:34", "start": "01:15:30", "text": "called the mowing devil. It describes"}, {"end": "01:15:36", "start": "01:15:32", "text": "how a farmer woke to see a bright light"}, {"end": "01:15:38", "start": "01:15:34", "text": "in his field that he thought was fire."}, {"end": "01:15:40", "start": "01:15:36", "text": "When he went to investigate, he found a"}, {"end": "01:15:42", "start": "01:15:38", "text": "crop circle. It's called the mowing"}, {"end": "01:15:45", "start": "01:15:40", "text": "devil because the farmer said the circle"}, {"end": "01:15:47", "start": "01:15:42", "text": "was so neatly mowed that it could not"}, {"end": "01:15:49", "start": "01:15:45", "text": "have been done by a mortal man. John"}, {"end": "01:15:51", "start": "01:15:47", "text": "Leland served as librarian to Henry"}, {"end": "01:15:54", "start": "01:15:49", "text": "VIII. He wrote about patterns appearing"}, {"end": "01:15:56", "start": "01:15:51", "text": "in grass overnight. In 1937, a British"}, {"end": "01:15:58", "start": "01:15:54", "text": "science journal reported circles found"}, {"end": "01:16:00", "start": "01:15:56", "text": "in a field of barley and even included"}, {"end": "01:16:04", "start": "01:15:58", "text": "one of the first photos taken of a crop"}, {"end": "01:16:06", "start": "01:16:00", "text": "circle. In 1945, this photo was taken by"}, {"end": "01:16:09", "start": "01:16:04", "text": "a balloonist working for the RAF"}, {"end": "01:16:11", "start": "01:16:06", "text": "Parachute Training School. In 1952, the"}, {"end": "01:16:15", "start": "01:16:09", "text": "US Air Force investigated circles found"}, {"end": "01:16:16", "start": "01:16:11", "text": "in Kansas. In 1963, Sir Patrick Moore,"}, {"end": "01:16:18", "start": "01:16:15", "text": "an astronomer writing for the New"}, {"end": "01:16:20", "start": "01:16:16", "text": "Scientist Journal, investigated a"}, {"end": "01:16:22", "start": "01:16:18", "text": "formation in Charlton."}, {"end": "01:16:24", "start": "01:16:20", "text": ">> In the wheat fields were features taking"}, {"end": "01:16:26", "start": "01:16:22", "text": "the form of circular or elliptical areas"}, {"end": "01:16:29", "start": "01:16:24", "text": "in which the wheat had been flattened."}, {"end": "01:16:32", "start": "01:16:26", "text": "One very well- definfined was an oval 15"}, {"end": "01:16:34", "start": "01:16:29", "text": "yd long by 4 1/2 broad. There was"}, {"end": "01:16:36", "start": "01:16:32", "text": "evidence of spiral flattening. And in"}, {"end": "01:16:38", "start": "01:16:34", "text": "one case, there was a circular area in"}, {"end": "01:16:40", "start": "01:16:36", "text": "the center in which the wheat had not"}, {"end": "01:16:41", "start": "01:16:38", "text": "been flattened."}, {"end": "01:16:44", "start": "01:16:40", "text": "One of the texts discovered in the Dead"}, {"end": "01:16:46", "start": "01:16:41", "text": "Sea Scrolls is the book of Enoch. Enoch"}, {"end": "01:16:49", "start": "01:16:44", "text": "talks about lightning leaving marks on"}, {"end": "01:16:50", "start": "01:16:46", "text": "the earth. So these formations have been"}, {"end": "01:16:52", "start": "01:16:49", "text": "seen since the beginning of recorded"}, {"end": "01:16:54", "start": "01:16:50", "text": "history. And even though thousands of"}, {"end": "01:16:56", "start": "01:16:52", "text": "circles have been found and many people"}, {"end": "01:17:01", "start": "01:16:54", "text": "claim to witness them forming, no one"}, {"end": "01:17:03", "start": "01:16:56", "text": "had ever caught it on camera until 1996."}, {"end": "01:17:05", "start": "01:17:01", "text": "John Why was camping out on a hill in"}, {"end": "01:17:07", "start": "01:17:03", "text": "Wiltshire called Oliver's Castle, named"}, {"end": "01:17:10", "start": "01:17:05", "text": "for a fort that was built there many"}, {"end": "01:17:12", "start": "01:17:07", "text": "years ago. Around 3:00 a.m., something"}, {"end": "01:17:14", "start": "01:17:10", "text": "caught his eye. He grabbed his video"}, {"end": "01:17:16", "start": "01:17:12", "text": "camera and captured footage of several"}, {"end": "01:17:20", "start": "01:17:14", "text": "glowing orbs hovering over a field."}, {"end": "01:17:22", "start": "01:17:16", "text": "Then, like magic."}, {"end": "01:17:26", "start": "01:17:20", "text": ">> Wa!"}, {"end": "01:17:26", "start": "01:17:22", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "01:17:33", "start": "01:17:27", "text": "Here's the formation from the air."}, {"end": "01:17:35", "start": "01:17:31", "text": "Nobody can agree on what crop circles"}, {"end": "01:17:37", "start": "01:17:33", "text": "mean, though most people believe their"}, {"end": "01:17:39", "start": "01:17:35", "text": "messages. Now, this is frustrating to"}, {"end": "01:17:41", "start": "01:17:37", "text": "many researchers. They say, \"Whoever's"}, {"end": "01:17:47", "start": "01:17:39", "text": "making these, why don't they just speak"}, {"end": "01:17:47", "start": "01:17:41", "text": "English?\" Well, in 2001, they did"}, {"end": "01:17:53", "start": "01:17:49", "text": ">> this intelligently control."}, {"end": "01:18:01", "start": "01:17:55", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "01:18:08", "start": "01:18:04", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "01:18:10", "start": "01:18:06", "text": "You see the object came down and it"}, {"end": "01:18:13", "start": "01:18:08", "text": "stopped."}, {"end": "01:18:13", "start": "01:18:10", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "01:18:28", "start": "01:18:23", "text": "Nothing random about it. There's no"}, {"end": "01:18:35", "start": "01:18:25", "text": "movement in prevailing wind."}, {"end": "01:18:39", "start": "01:18:28", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "01:18:39", "start": "01:18:35", "text": "I can't think what that is."}, {"end": "01:18:48", "start": "01:18:43", "text": "And this finish"}, {"end": "01:19:03", "start": "01:18:50", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "01:19:16", "start": "01:19:11", "text": "in 1974. The Aerosibo message was sent"}, {"end": "01:19:18", "start": "01:19:14", "text": "from Earth to a cluster of stars in the"}, {"end": "01:19:19", "start": "01:19:16", "text": "Hercules constellation. It's called the"}, {"end": "01:19:21", "start": "01:19:18", "text": "Arosibo message because that was the"}, {"end": "01:19:23", "start": "01:19:19", "text": "name of the giant radio telescope used"}, {"end": "01:19:25", "start": "01:19:21", "text": "to transmit it. The team that created"}, {"end": "01:19:28", "start": "01:19:23", "text": "the message was led by Dr. Frank Drake"}, {"end": "01:19:31", "start": "01:19:25", "text": "with assistance from Carl Sean. The"}, {"end": "01:19:33", "start": "01:19:28", "text": "message was 1679 binary digits that"}, {"end": "01:19:35", "start": "01:19:31", "text": "could be converted to an image designed"}, {"end": "01:19:37", "start": "01:19:33", "text": "to convey information about civilization"}, {"end": "01:19:39", "start": "01:19:35", "text": "on Earth. It starts with a"}, {"end": "01:19:41", "start": "01:19:37", "text": "representation of the numbers 1 through"}, {"end": "01:19:44", "start": "01:19:39", "text": "10. This provides a key to the rest of"}, {"end": "01:19:47", "start": "01:19:41", "text": "the message. Next, atomic numbers of"}, {"end": "01:19:49", "start": "01:19:44", "text": "hydrogen, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, and"}, {"end": "01:19:51", "start": "01:19:47", "text": "phosphorus, which are used to make up"}, {"end": "01:19:53", "start": "01:19:49", "text": "DNA. Carbon is at the top because it's"}, {"end": "01:19:55", "start": "01:19:51", "text": "the most dominant in forms of life. The"}, {"end": "01:19:57", "start": "01:19:53", "text": "message shows more information about"}, {"end": "01:20:00", "start": "01:19:55", "text": "DNA, including the double helix"}, {"end": "01:20:02", "start": "01:19:57", "text": "structure. For the bottom, a figure of a"}, {"end": "01:20:04", "start": "01:20:00", "text": "human, its average height, and the"}, {"end": "01:20:06", "start": "01:20:02", "text": "population of the Earth, which was a"}, {"end": "01:20:08", "start": "01:20:04", "text": "little over 4 billion at the time. Next,"}, {"end": "01:20:11", "start": "01:20:06", "text": "our solar system. Starting with the sun"}, {"end": "01:20:13", "start": "01:20:08", "text": "and moving out to Pluto. The Earth is"}, {"end": "01:20:15", "start": "01:20:11", "text": "shifted up to identify the planet"}, {"end": "01:20:17", "start": "01:20:13", "text": "sending the signal. At the bottom, a"}, {"end": "01:20:19", "start": "01:20:15", "text": "graphic representing the Arosibo radio"}, {"end": "01:20:22", "start": "01:20:17", "text": "telescope. Now, the nearest star that"}, {"end": "01:20:24", "start": "01:20:19", "text": "could possibly receive the message is"}, {"end": "01:20:27", "start": "01:20:22", "text": "25,000 light years away. So, we couldn't"}, {"end": "01:20:30", "start": "01:20:24", "text": "really expect a reply for another 50,000"}, {"end": "01:20:33", "start": "01:20:27", "text": "years. But on the morning of August"}, {"end": "01:20:35", "start": "01:20:30", "text": "14th, 2001, a formation was discovered"}, {"end": "01:20:36", "start": "01:20:33", "text": "right next to the Chilolton radio"}, {"end": "01:20:38", "start": "01:20:35", "text": "telescope. Now, even if you don't know"}, {"end": "01:20:40", "start": "01:20:36", "text": "the full design, when you're on the"}, {"end": "01:20:42", "start": "01:20:38", "text": "ground, you can tell you're in a crop"}, {"end": "01:20:45", "start": "01:20:40", "text": "circle. There's structure and uniformity"}, {"end": "01:20:47", "start": "01:20:42", "text": "to it. But this new formation was"}, {"end": "01:20:49", "start": "01:20:45", "text": "different. It was a mess. It wasn't"}, {"end": "01:20:53", "start": "01:20:47", "text": "symmetrical. Nobody could make sense of"}, {"end": "01:20:55", "start": "01:20:49", "text": "it until it was viewed from the air."}, {"end": "01:21:00", "start": "01:20:53", "text": ">> Holy sh"}, {"end": "01:21:04", "start": "01:20:55", "text": ">> a face. and 3 days later disappeared."}, {"end": "01:21:08", "start": "01:21:00", "text": "This became known as the arosibo answer."}, {"end": "01:21:10", "start": "01:21:04", "text": ">> The formation uses the same 23x73 grid."}, {"end": "01:21:12", "start": "01:21:08", "text": "The top line shows the numbers 1 through"}, {"end": "01:21:15", "start": "01:21:10", "text": "10, just like the original, but the"}, {"end": "01:21:18", "start": "01:21:12", "text": "reply shows silicon as the main element"}, {"end": "01:21:21", "start": "01:21:15", "text": "for life, not carbon. Their DNA is shown"}, {"end": "01:21:23", "start": "01:21:18", "text": "as having a third string. In the center"}, {"end": "01:21:25", "start": "01:21:21", "text": "is a humanoid figure about 4 ft tall"}, {"end": "01:21:29", "start": "01:21:23", "text": "with a large head and their population"}, {"end": "01:21:31", "start": "01:21:25", "text": "is about 21 billion. Below the figure is"}, {"end": "01:21:34", "start": "01:21:29", "text": "their solar system. They appear to"}, {"end": "01:21:36", "start": "01:21:31", "text": "occupy three objects in the system, the"}, {"end": "01:21:38", "start": "01:21:34", "text": "third and fourth planets. And then"}, {"end": "01:21:39", "start": "01:21:36", "text": "there's another shape that could mean a"}, {"end": "01:21:42", "start": "01:21:38", "text": "planet or some other object or"}, {"end": "01:21:44", "start": "01:21:39", "text": "structure. On the human arosibo message"}, {"end": "01:21:46", "start": "01:21:42", "text": "is a picture of the radio telescope"}, {"end": "01:21:48", "start": "01:21:44", "text": "which was used to send the message."}, {"end": "01:21:51", "start": "01:21:46", "text": "Whoever sent the reply seems to"}, {"end": "01:21:54", "start": "01:21:48", "text": "understand this. So what is this design"}, {"end": "01:21:56", "start": "01:21:51", "text": "meant to represent? Well, just a year"}, {"end": "01:21:59", "start": "01:21:54", "text": "earlier, this formation appeared in the"}, {"end": "01:22:02", "start": "01:21:56", "text": "same place. Is this the same object? Is"}, {"end": "01:22:04", "start": "01:21:59", "text": "this crop formation a representation of"}, {"end": "01:22:07", "start": "01:22:02", "text": "a machine used to communicate through"}, {"end": "01:22:09", "start": "01:22:04", "text": "space? Again, frustrated researchers and"}, {"end": "01:22:11", "start": "01:22:07", "text": "skeptics agree on something. Why don't"}, {"end": "01:22:14", "start": "01:22:09", "text": "they just speak English? Well, almost"}, {"end": "01:22:17", "start": "01:22:11", "text": "exactly one year later, this formation"}, {"end": "01:22:17", "start": "01:22:14", "text": "appeared."}, {"end": "01:22:23", "start": "01:22:17", "text": "My brain my brain just exploded."}, {"end": "01:22:26", "start": "01:22:21", "text": ">> Once again, we see a face, but that's"}, {"end": "01:22:28", "start": "01:22:23", "text": "not a human face. And just like the"}, {"end": "01:22:31", "start": "01:22:26", "text": "Aerosibo message was broadcast in binary"}, {"end": "01:22:34", "start": "01:22:28", "text": "code, the disc formation also contains"}, {"end": "01:22:36", "start": "01:22:31", "text": "binary code. And for the first time, we"}, {"end": "01:22:39", "start": "01:22:34", "text": "get an actual literal message. The code"}, {"end": "01:22:41", "start": "01:22:36", "text": "was translated to letters using ASI, the"}, {"end": "01:22:43", "start": "01:22:39", "text": "encoding standard for electronic"}, {"end": "01:22:46", "start": "01:22:41", "text": "communication. Beware the bearers of"}, {"end": "01:22:48", "start": "01:22:43", "text": "false gifts and their broken promises."}, {"end": "01:22:51", "start": "01:22:46", "text": "Much pain but still time."}, {"end": "01:22:54", "start": "01:22:48", "text": ">> Believe there is good good out there. We"}, {"end": "01:22:57", "start": "01:22:51", "text": "opposed to deception. Conduit"}, {"end": "01:22:57", "start": "01:22:54", "text": ">> closing."}, {"end": "01:23:01", "start": "01:22:57", "text": ">> Whoever it is that wants to communicate"}, {"end": "01:23:04", "start": "01:22:59", "text": "with us is using many different means."}, {"end": "01:23:06", "start": "01:23:01", "text": "In 2004, Robert Ridge was deer hunting a"}, {"end": "01:23:08", "start": "01:23:04", "text": "few miles outside of Roswell, New"}, {"end": "01:23:11", "start": "01:23:06", "text": "Mexico. Half buried in the dirt, he"}, {"end": "01:23:13", "start": "01:23:08", "text": "found a strange rock. On the rock is a"}, {"end": "01:23:15", "start": "01:23:11", "text": "geometric carving. Robert grabbed it and"}, {"end": "01:23:17", "start": "01:23:13", "text": "didn't think it was anything more than a"}, {"end": "01:23:18", "start": "01:23:15", "text": "cool rock someone lost at some point."}, {"end": "01:23:20", "start": "01:23:17", "text": "But he didn't keep it a secret. He"}, {"end": "01:23:22", "start": "01:23:18", "text": "showed it to friends and anyone who was"}, {"end": "01:23:24", "start": "01:23:20", "text": "curious about it. It didn't take long"}, {"end": "01:23:27", "start": "01:23:22", "text": "before strange discoveries were made"}, {"end": "01:23:28", "start": "01:23:24", "text": "about the rock. For one, it's magnetized"}, {"end": "01:23:30", "start": "01:23:27", "text": "load stone, which is not a kind of rock"}, {"end": "01:23:33", "start": "01:23:28", "text": "found in that area. And under a"}, {"end": "01:23:35", "start": "01:23:30", "text": "microscope, the Roswell rock is"}, {"end": "01:23:37", "start": "01:23:33", "text": "extremely smooth. There's no carving"}, {"end": "01:23:39", "start": "01:23:35", "text": "marks or indication of sand blasting."}, {"end": "01:23:43", "start": "01:23:37", "text": "But the most fascinating discovery is"}, {"end": "01:23:45", "start": "01:23:39", "text": "that in 1996, 8 years before the Roswell"}, {"end": "01:23:49", "start": "01:23:43", "text": "Rock was found, this crop formation"}, {"end": "01:23:51", "start": "01:23:45", "text": "appeared. The designs match up. Some"}, {"end": "01:23:54", "start": "01:23:49", "text": "people think this design is a message."}, {"end": "01:23:56", "start": "01:23:51", "text": "Others think it's a map. Still, others"}, {"end": "01:23:58", "start": "01:23:54", "text": "think the Roswell Rock, the Aerosibo"}, {"end": "01:24:00", "start": "01:23:56", "text": "answer, and all crop circles are nothing"}, {"end": "01:24:03", "start": "01:23:58", "text": "but a hoax. But who would create such"}, {"end": "01:24:06", "start": "01:24:00", "text": "elaborate hoaxes? And why? Well, in"}, {"end": "01:24:08", "start": "01:24:03", "text": "1991, we would get the answer when a"}, {"end": "01:24:10", "start": "01:24:06", "text": "British newspaper ran a front page story"}, {"end": "01:24:11", "start": "01:24:08", "text": "with the headline, \"The men who con the"}, {"end": "01:24:14", "start": "01:24:10", "text": "world.\""}, {"end": "01:24:14", "start": "01:24:11", "text": ">> Oh no."}, {"end": "01:24:22", "start": "01:24:16", "text": ">> On September 9th, 1991, two retirees in"}, {"end": "01:24:25", "start": "01:24:19", "text": "their 60s confessed to starting the crop"}, {"end": "01:24:27", "start": "01:24:22", "text": "circle phenomenon in 1978. Doug Bower"}, {"end": "01:24:30", "start": "01:24:25", "text": "said the idea came to him one night in a"}, {"end": "01:24:32", "start": "01:24:27", "text": "pub. He was living in Queensland in 1966"}, {"end": "01:24:34", "start": "01:24:30", "text": "when the Tully UFO left behind that"}, {"end": "01:24:35", "start": "01:24:32", "text": "circle of reeds. Doug thought it would"}, {"end": "01:24:37", "start": "01:24:34", "text": "be fun to trick people into thinking"}, {"end": "01:24:39", "start": "01:24:35", "text": "UFOs were landing in wheat fields in"}, {"end": "01:24:41", "start": "01:24:37", "text": "southern England. He enlisted the help"}, {"end": "01:24:43", "start": "01:24:39", "text": "of his friend Dave Chley. All they"}, {"end": "01:24:45", "start": "01:24:41", "text": "needed to make a crop circle was a wood"}, {"end": "01:24:47", "start": "01:24:43", "text": "plank, a bit of rope, and a twisted"}, {"end": "01:24:50", "start": "01:24:45", "text": "piece of wire. At first, their designs"}, {"end": "01:24:52", "start": "01:24:47", "text": "were simple and crude, but over time"}, {"end": "01:24:54", "start": "01:24:50", "text": "they became more and more complex. And"}, {"end": "01:24:57", "start": "01:24:52", "text": "you could uh center this through this"}, {"end": "01:24:59", "start": "01:24:54", "text": "ring, walk straight towards it, and lo"}, {"end": "01:25:00", "start": "01:24:57", "text": "and behold, you got the lovely straight"}, {"end": "01:25:02", "start": "01:24:59", "text": "line that you could wish for."}, {"end": "01:25:04", "start": "01:25:00", "text": ">> International media picked up the story,"}, {"end": "01:25:06", "start": "01:25:02", "text": "and the mystery was solved. Crop circles"}, {"end": "01:25:08", "start": "01:25:04", "text": "were nothing more than a couple of"}, {"end": "01:25:09", "start": "01:25:06", "text": "amiiable old fellas playing a prank. And"}, {"end": "01:25:12", "start": "01:25:08", "text": "that was that."}, {"end": "01:25:13", "start": "01:25:09", "text": ">> That's it. End the story. It's kind of"}, {"end": "01:25:14", "start": "01:25:12", "text": "disappointing."}, {"end": "01:25:15", "start": "01:25:13", "text": ">> Oh, we're just getting started."}, {"end": "01:25:17", "start": "01:25:14", "text": ">> Oh, go on."}, {"end": "01:25:19", "start": "01:25:15", "text": ">> Doug and Dave might have created a few"}, {"end": "01:25:22", "start": "01:25:17", "text": "crop circles, but their story has a lot"}, {"end": "01:25:24", "start": "01:25:19", "text": "of holes. They demonstrated their circle"}, {"end": "01:25:26", "start": "01:25:22", "text": "making technique and the results were"}, {"end": "01:25:28", "start": "01:25:24", "text": "janky. Most crop formations, even back"}, {"end": "01:25:31", "start": "01:25:26", "text": "then, were much more precise. Doug and"}, {"end": "01:25:33", "start": "01:25:28", "text": "Dave's formations were out of alignment"}, {"end": "01:25:35", "start": "01:25:31", "text": "every time. The more complicated the"}, {"end": "01:25:37", "start": "01:25:33", "text": "design, the worse the formations were."}, {"end": "01:25:39", "start": "01:25:35", "text": "During one demonstration for a news"}, {"end": "01:25:41", "start": "01:25:37", "text": "crew, Doug attempted to reproduce one of"}, {"end": "01:25:43", "start": "01:25:39", "text": "his circles and accidentally made it"}, {"end": "01:25:45", "start": "01:25:41", "text": "twice as big as it should have been."}, {"end": "01:25:48", "start": "01:25:43", "text": "Then he just gave up on making it. And"}, {"end": "01:25:51", "start": "01:25:45", "text": "their story changed over time. They said"}, {"end": "01:25:54", "start": "01:25:48", "text": "they started making circles in 1976."}, {"end": "01:25:56", "start": "01:25:51", "text": "Then it was 1975. Then it was 1978. In"}, {"end": "01:25:58", "start": "01:25:54", "text": "fact, they never could agree on the year"}, {"end": "01:26:00", "start": "01:25:56", "text": "they actually started. Now, they claimed"}, {"end": "01:26:02", "start": "01:25:58", "text": "to have created certain circles and then"}, {"end": "01:26:04", "start": "01:26:00", "text": "later said they didn't, but they helped"}, {"end": "01:26:06", "start": "01:26:02", "text": "people who did. And Doug and Dave said"}, {"end": "01:26:09", "start": "01:26:04", "text": "they created this famous crop circle in"}, {"end": "01:26:11", "start": "01:26:06", "text": "1983 called the Cheesefoot Head Circle."}, {"end": "01:26:13", "start": "01:26:09", "text": "Doug showed a diagram of it, but his"}, {"end": "01:26:16", "start": "01:26:11", "text": "diagram had foot paths in it. The circle"}, {"end": "01:26:18", "start": "01:26:13", "text": "had no paths. It had no disturbances of"}, {"end": "01:26:20", "start": "01:26:16", "text": "any kind. When asked how they created"}, {"end": "01:26:22", "start": "01:26:18", "text": "the circle without making tracks in the"}, {"end": "01:26:24", "start": "01:26:20", "text": "crop, Doug said they pole vaulted into"}, {"end": "01:26:26", "start": "01:26:22", "text": "the field."}, {"end": "01:26:28", "start": "01:26:24", "text": ">> Did you just say pole vaulted?"}, {"end": "01:26:29", "start": "01:26:26", "text": ">> Yep. He said in an interview that you"}, {"end": "01:26:31", "start": "01:26:28", "text": "should have seen us running through the"}, {"end": "01:26:32", "start": "01:26:29", "text": "fields with our sticks sailing over the"}, {"end": "01:26:34", "start": "01:26:31", "text": "corn."}, {"end": "01:26:36", "start": "01:26:32", "text": ">> I would like to see that actually."}, {"end": "01:26:39", "start": "01:26:34", "text": ">> Oh, me too, pal. Apparently, these men"}, {"end": "01:26:41", "start": "01:26:36", "text": "in their 60s pole vaulted into fields"}, {"end": "01:26:43", "start": "01:26:39", "text": "carrying their wood boards. They laid"}, {"end": "01:26:46", "start": "01:26:41", "text": "down a perfect crop formation and pole"}, {"end": "01:26:48", "start": "01:26:43", "text": "vaulted out again. Now Doug looks pretty"}, {"end": "01:26:49", "start": "01:26:46", "text": "fit for an older guy, but he's getting"}, {"end": "01:26:51", "start": "01:26:48", "text": "winded walking in a circle. Pole"}, {"end": "01:26:54", "start": "01:26:49", "text": "vaultting seems a little outside of his"}, {"end": "01:26:56", "start": "01:26:51", "text": "athletic range. They also added details"}, {"end": "01:26:58", "start": "01:26:54", "text": "to their story as other crop circles"}, {"end": "01:27:00", "start": "01:26:56", "text": "were found. One day, a couple of people"}, {"end": "01:27:02", "start": "01:26:58", "text": "investigating a circle told Doug they"}, {"end": "01:27:04", "start": "01:27:00", "text": "were looking for a jelly-like substance"}, {"end": "01:27:06", "start": "01:27:02", "text": "that was found in a formation. Doug told"}, {"end": "01:27:08", "start": "01:27:04", "text": "them it was probably waste ejected from"}, {"end": "01:27:10", "start": "01:27:06", "text": "a plane. Later, Doug had a story about"}, {"end": "01:27:12", "start": "01:27:08", "text": "making a crop circle. And while he was"}, {"end": "01:27:14", "start": "01:27:10", "text": "doing it, he got hit in the head with a"}, {"end": "01:27:15", "start": "01:27:12", "text": "piece of frozen waste ejected from a"}, {"end": "01:27:18", "start": "01:27:14", "text": "plane's toilet."}, {"end": "01:27:19", "start": "01:27:15", "text": ">> And he called those boeing bombs,"}, {"end": "01:27:20", "start": "01:27:18", "text": ">> right?"}, {"end": "01:27:23", "start": "01:27:19", "text": ">> Yeah. Big old frozen chunk of poopy."}, {"end": "01:27:25", "start": "01:27:20", "text": ">> He stumbled back to his car, dazed with"}, {"end": "01:27:27", "start": "01:27:23", "text": "blood trickling down his face. The"}, {"end": "01:27:29", "start": "01:27:25", "text": "problem is planes don't dump waste over"}, {"end": "01:27:32", "start": "01:27:27", "text": "that area. It would be illegal,"}, {"end": "01:27:33", "start": "01:27:29", "text": "dangerous, and disgusting. Another story"}, {"end": "01:27:35", "start": "01:27:32", "text": "came out about people finding bits of"}, {"end": "01:27:38", "start": "01:27:33", "text": "metal thought to be meteorites at crop"}, {"end": "01:27:40", "start": "01:27:35", "text": "formations. Soon after that, Doug and"}, {"end": "01:27:42", "start": "01:27:38", "text": "Dave's crop circles had little bits of"}, {"end": "01:27:45", "start": "01:27:40", "text": "iron scattered all around. So, a few"}, {"end": "01:27:47", "start": "01:27:42", "text": "things. Did Doug Bower and Dave Chley"}, {"end": "01:27:50", "start": "01:27:45", "text": "create some crop circles? Yes. When Doug"}, {"end": "01:27:53", "start": "01:27:47", "text": "and Dave came forward, about 1,500 crop"}, {"end": "01:27:53", "start": "01:27:50", "text": "circles had been seen in at least 23"}, {"end": "01:27:55", "start": "01:27:53", "text": "countries."}, {"end": "01:27:57", "start": "01:27:53", "text": ">> Oh, well, you can't pull to Belgium,"}, {"end": "01:28:00", "start": "01:27:55", "text": ">> right? Even Doug couldn't do that. But"}, {"end": "01:28:02", "start": "01:27:57", "text": "they inspired a lot of copycats. Soon,"}, {"end": "01:28:04", "start": "01:28:00", "text": "most crop formations were man-made. So,"}, {"end": "01:28:08", "start": "01:28:02", "text": "is there a scientific way to tell if a"}, {"end": "01:28:11", "start": "01:28:04", "text": "crop circle is not a hoax but genuine?"}, {"end": "01:28:11", "start": "01:28:08", "text": "There is."}, {"end": "01:28:17", "start": "01:28:13", "text": "Most crop formations are man-made. The"}, {"end": "01:28:19", "start": "01:28:15", "text": "vast majority are. And there are"}, {"end": "01:28:21", "start": "01:28:17", "text": "telltale signs of this. Sometimes"}, {"end": "01:28:23", "start": "01:28:19", "text": "spotting a man-made crop circle is as"}, {"end": "01:28:25", "start": "01:28:21", "text": "simple as finding a footpath through the"}, {"end": "01:28:27", "start": "01:28:23", "text": "field leading up to the design. But"}, {"end": "01:28:29", "start": "01:28:25", "text": "often crop formations intersect the"}, {"end": "01:28:31", "start": "01:28:27", "text": "lines made by tractors called tram"}, {"end": "01:28:35", "start": "01:28:29", "text": "lines, which can hide tracks. To spot a"}, {"end": "01:28:37", "start": "01:28:31", "text": "hoax, we look at the plants themselves."}, {"end": "01:28:39", "start": "01:28:35", "text": "Man-made crop circles done by flattening"}, {"end": "01:28:41", "start": "01:28:37", "text": "plants with boards are destructive to"}, {"end": "01:28:43", "start": "01:28:39", "text": "the plants. You'll see cracks and"}, {"end": "01:28:45", "start": "01:28:41", "text": "bruises on the stalks. On the ground,"}, {"end": "01:28:47", "start": "01:28:43", "text": "the crushed plants look messy. The"}, {"end": "01:28:49", "start": "01:28:45", "text": "leaves and flowers will be mashed to the"}, {"end": "01:28:51", "start": "01:28:47", "text": "ground. Marks will be visible on only"}, {"end": "01:28:53", "start": "01:28:49", "text": "one side of the plant where it was"}, {"end": "01:28:55", "start": "01:28:51", "text": "stomped by a plank of wood. Many of"}, {"end": "01:28:57", "start": "01:28:53", "text": "those marks are creases where you can"}, {"end": "01:28:59", "start": "01:28:55", "text": "actually bend the stalk. Genuine crop"}, {"end": "01:29:01", "start": "01:28:57", "text": "circles don't look like this at all."}, {"end": "01:29:03", "start": "01:28:59", "text": "First, the lay of the pattern will flow"}, {"end": "01:29:05", "start": "01:29:01", "text": "like water. There's a gentleness to it"}, {"end": "01:29:08", "start": "01:29:03", "text": "and elegance. And many times the stalks"}, {"end": "01:29:11", "start": "01:29:05", "text": "are layered and even braided. In genuine"}, {"end": "01:29:12", "start": "01:29:08", "text": "crop circles, most plants aren't"}, {"end": "01:29:15", "start": "01:29:11", "text": "damaged. They'll continue to grow"}, {"end": "01:29:17", "start": "01:29:12", "text": "horizontally and then after a few days"}, {"end": "01:29:20", "start": "01:29:15", "text": "return to their vertical position. In"}, {"end": "01:29:22", "start": "01:29:17", "text": "this formation found in May 2005, the"}, {"end": "01:29:26", "start": "01:29:20", "text": "flowers weren't damaged at all. They"}, {"end": "01:29:28", "start": "01:29:22", "text": "were somehow laid down gently."}, {"end": "01:29:31", "start": "01:29:26", "text": "A group of clumsy men with wooden boards"}, {"end": "01:29:33", "start": "01:29:28", "text": "couldn't do this. We know this because"}, {"end": "01:29:35", "start": "01:29:31", "text": "it was tried. A group of crop circle"}, {"end": "01:29:37", "start": "01:29:33", "text": "makers attempted to reproduce this"}, {"end": "01:29:40", "start": "01:29:35", "text": "formation. From the air, it looks pretty"}, {"end": "01:29:42", "start": "01:29:37", "text": "good. But on the ground, the man-made"}, {"end": "01:29:45", "start": "01:29:40", "text": "version is a mess. The plants are"}, {"end": "01:29:47", "start": "01:29:42", "text": "trashed. A formation in 2003 was"}, {"end": "01:29:49", "start": "01:29:45", "text": "especially puzzling. In parts of the"}, {"end": "01:29:51", "start": "01:29:47", "text": "design, the plants weren't completely"}, {"end": "01:29:53", "start": "01:29:49", "text": "flattened. They were bent a few inches"}, {"end": "01:29:55", "start": "01:29:51", "text": "from the top. It's been described as"}, {"end": "01:29:57", "start": "01:29:53", "text": "like the grooves of a record. How do you"}, {"end": "01:29:58", "start": "01:29:55", "text": "make this with planks and rope?"}, {"end": "01:30:00", "start": "01:29:57", "text": ">> You don't."}, {"end": "01:30:03", "start": "01:29:58", "text": ">> You don't. Another sign of a genuine"}, {"end": "01:30:05", "start": "01:30:00", "text": "circle can be seen, especially in wheat."}, {"end": "01:30:07", "start": "01:30:03", "text": "In late summer, when wheat turns gold,"}, {"end": "01:30:10", "start": "01:30:05", "text": "the kernels become heavy and bend over"}, {"end": "01:30:12", "start": "01:30:07", "text": "from the weight. They also become stiff"}, {"end": "01:30:14", "start": "01:30:10", "text": "and are impossible to straighten. But"}, {"end": "01:30:16", "start": "01:30:12", "text": "the wheat within a crop circle, the"}, {"end": "01:30:18", "start": "01:30:14", "text": "kernels have straightened out and can't"}, {"end": "01:30:21", "start": "01:30:16", "text": "be bent. So, what would do this?"}, {"end": "01:30:23", "start": "01:30:18", "text": "Radiation."}, {"end": "01:30:25", "start": "01:30:21", "text": "Wheat stocks are separated by structures"}, {"end": "01:30:28", "start": "01:30:23", "text": "called apical nodes. These are like the"}, {"end": "01:30:30", "start": "01:30:25", "text": "knuckles on your fingers. In the 1990s,"}, {"end": "01:30:32", "start": "01:30:28", "text": "biophysicist William Levvengood started"}, {"end": "01:30:35", "start": "01:30:30", "text": "analyzing plants taken from crop"}, {"end": "01:30:37", "start": "01:30:32", "text": "circles. His team found the nodes in"}, {"end": "01:30:39", "start": "01:30:35", "text": "crop circle wheat were elongated and in"}, {"end": "01:30:42", "start": "01:30:37", "text": "many cases they were ruptured."}, {"end": "01:30:44", "start": "01:30:39", "text": ">> Oh, a rupture on an elongated node. I"}, {"end": "01:30:46", "start": "01:30:42", "text": "think they make a cream for that."}, {"end": "01:30:48", "start": "01:30:44", "text": ">> This rupture is called an expulsion"}, {"end": "01:30:50", "start": "01:30:46", "text": "cavity. The only way this could be"}, {"end": "01:30:52", "start": "01:30:48", "text": "replicated is with bursts of microwave"}, {"end": "01:30:55", "start": "01:30:50", "text": "radiation. The way your microwave oven"}, {"end": "01:30:57", "start": "01:30:52", "text": "works is it heats up water, fats, and"}, {"end": "01:30:59", "start": "01:30:55", "text": "sugar in food. Microwave energy is"}, {"end": "01:31:01", "start": "01:30:57", "text": "heating up the water in the wheat stock"}, {"end": "01:31:04", "start": "01:30:59", "text": "nodes. The water turns to steam and then"}, {"end": "01:31:06", "start": "01:31:01", "text": "they burst just like popcorn. Now, you"}, {"end": "01:31:07", "start": "01:31:04", "text": "can't fake this. It happens to the plant"}, {"end": "01:31:10", "start": "01:31:06", "text": "internally."}, {"end": "01:31:12", "start": "01:31:07", "text": ">> There's no way you got hoax. People who"}, {"end": "01:31:14", "start": "01:31:10", "text": "claim to have witnessed crop circles"}, {"end": "01:31:16", "start": "01:31:12", "text": "being made, and there's quite a few"}, {"end": "01:31:19", "start": "01:31:14", "text": "witnesses, report seeing a mist over the"}, {"end": "01:31:21", "start": "01:31:16", "text": "pattern immediately after it's formed."}, {"end": "01:31:24", "start": "01:31:19", "text": "This mist is actually steam coming from"}, {"end": "01:31:26", "start": "01:31:21", "text": "the plants that were flash heated by"}, {"end": "01:31:29", "start": "01:31:24", "text": "microwave radiation. While experimenting"}, {"end": "01:31:31", "start": "01:31:26", "text": "with radiation, Levvengood found crop"}, {"end": "01:31:33", "start": "01:31:29", "text": "circle seed had a huge increase in"}, {"end": "01:31:36", "start": "01:31:31", "text": "growth compared to non-crop circle seed."}, {"end": "01:31:38", "start": "01:31:33", "text": "By exposing seeds to short controlled"}, {"end": "01:31:40", "start": "01:31:36", "text": "bursts of radiation, they grow bigger"}, {"end": "01:31:43", "start": "01:31:38", "text": "and faster than seeds not exposed to"}, {"end": "01:31:45", "start": "01:31:40", "text": "radiation. Another experiment showed"}, {"end": "01:31:47", "start": "01:31:43", "text": "that wheat harvested from within a crop"}, {"end": "01:31:49", "start": "01:31:45", "text": "circle has a much higher amount of"}, {"end": "01:31:51", "start": "01:31:47", "text": "protein than wheat outside the circle."}, {"end": "01:31:53", "start": "01:31:49", "text": "So, there's evidence that whatever"}, {"end": "01:31:55", "start": "01:31:51", "text": "energy is used to create crop formations"}, {"end": "01:31:58", "start": "01:31:53", "text": "is leaving residual traces of this"}, {"end": "01:32:00", "start": "01:31:55", "text": "energy in the area. Some crop formations"}, {"end": "01:32:04", "start": "01:31:58", "text": "are covered in a dusting of microscopic"}, {"end": "01:32:06", "start": "01:32:00", "text": "spheres of magnetized iron. specifically"}, {"end": "01:32:08", "start": "01:32:04", "text": "meteorite iron. Researchers call this a"}, {"end": "01:32:10", "start": "01:32:06", "text": "magnetic glaze. These spheres are"}, {"end": "01:32:12", "start": "01:32:08", "text": "usually found around the perimeter of a"}, {"end": "01:32:15", "start": "01:32:10", "text": "formation and they're distributed"}, {"end": "01:32:17", "start": "01:32:12", "text": "linearly, not randomly. Because the iron"}, {"end": "01:32:19", "start": "01:32:15", "text": "particles are magnetized perfect"}, {"end": "01:32:21", "start": "01:32:17", "text": "spheres, it means they were melted and"}, {"end": "01:32:23", "start": "01:32:19", "text": "formed within a highly energetic"}, {"end": "01:32:26", "start": "01:32:21", "text": "magnetic field. When people are inside"}, {"end": "01:32:28", "start": "01:32:23", "text": "crop formations, many are affected by"}, {"end": "01:32:31", "start": "01:32:26", "text": "electromagnetic radiation. Just look at"}, {"end": "01:32:31", "start": "01:32:28", "text": "this."}, {"end": "01:32:37", "start": "01:32:34", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "01:32:44", "start": "01:32:41", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "01:32:55", "start": "01:32:51", "text": "As part of an experiment, a woman with"}, {"end": "01:32:57", "start": "01:32:53", "text": "an enlarged thyroid sat in a crop"}, {"end": "01:32:59", "start": "01:32:55", "text": "formation for 2 and 1/2 hours. while"}, {"end": "01:33:03", "start": "01:32:57", "text": "being monitored by a doctor, her thyroid"}, {"end": "01:33:05", "start": "01:32:59", "text": "shrunk by 40%. Often, cameras, watches,"}, {"end": "01:33:08", "start": "01:33:03", "text": "and other electronic devices stopped"}, {"end": "01:33:09", "start": "01:33:05", "text": "working inside a crop circle. In fact,"}, {"end": "01:33:11", "start": "01:33:08", "text": "pregnant women and people with"}, {"end": "01:33:13", "start": "01:33:09", "text": "pacemakers are discouraged from going"}, {"end": "01:33:16", "start": "01:33:11", "text": "near one. Now, to skeptics, all this"}, {"end": "01:33:17", "start": "01:33:13", "text": "talk about energy sounds woowoo, but I"}, {"end": "01:33:20", "start": "01:33:16", "text": "just showed you the real effects on"}, {"end": "01:33:22", "start": "01:33:17", "text": "plants and people. Now, it's fair to say"}, {"end": "01:33:24", "start": "01:33:20", "text": "that the elongated nodes and growth"}, {"end": "01:33:26", "start": "01:33:22", "text": "rates of wheat could be a coincidence."}, {"end": "01:33:28", "start": "01:33:24", "text": "It's also fair to say that the physical"}, {"end": "01:33:30", "start": "01:33:26", "text": "reactions experienced by people could be"}, {"end": "01:33:35", "start": "01:33:28", "text": "psychossematic all in their minds. But"}, {"end": "01:33:35", "start": "01:33:30", "text": "skeptics, how do you explain this?"}, {"end": "01:33:40", "start": "01:33:36", "text": "These are called ghost formations or"}, {"end": "01:33:43", "start": "01:33:38", "text": "ghost circles. This is when the design"}, {"end": "01:33:45", "start": "01:33:40", "text": "of a crop formation is still visible"}, {"end": "01:33:47", "start": "01:33:43", "text": "after the field has been plowed."}, {"end": "01:33:49", "start": "01:33:45", "text": "Sometimes a ghost formation remains"}, {"end": "01:33:51", "start": "01:33:47", "text": "through the following season. Sometimes"}, {"end": "01:33:54", "start": "01:33:49", "text": "it remains for 2 years before finally"}, {"end": "01:33:56", "start": "01:33:51", "text": "fading. But this doesn't happen with all"}, {"end": "01:33:58", "start": "01:33:54", "text": "crop formations. Nobody knows why, but"}, {"end": "01:34:00", "start": "01:33:56", "text": "it could have something to do with where"}, {"end": "01:34:03", "start": "01:33:58", "text": "the patterns are found. A study was done"}, {"end": "01:34:05", "start": "01:34:00", "text": "in the early 2000s of all the crop"}, {"end": "01:34:08", "start": "01:34:03", "text": "circles in southern England found that"}, {"end": "01:34:10", "start": "01:34:05", "text": "year. The study showed that 98% of all"}, {"end": "01:34:14", "start": "01:34:08", "text": "non-manade formations were over chalk"}, {"end": "01:34:16", "start": "01:34:10", "text": "aquifers. And by the way, chalk aquifers"}, {"end": "01:34:18", "start": "01:34:14", "text": "can be used for generating electricity."}, {"end": "01:34:21", "start": "01:34:16", "text": "Everything keeps pointing back to"}, {"end": "01:34:21", "start": "01:34:18", "text": "electromagnetism."}, {"end": "01:34:26", "start": "01:34:23", "text": "If there's an epicenter for crop"}, {"end": "01:34:29", "start": "01:34:24", "text": "formations in southern England, it's"}, {"end": "01:34:32", "start": "01:34:26", "text": "Silbury Hill. Silbury Hill was built"}, {"end": "01:34:35", "start": "01:34:29", "text": "thousands of years ago. It's 129 ft tall"}, {"end": "01:34:37", "start": "01:34:32", "text": "and covers an area of about 5 acres."}, {"end": "01:34:40", "start": "01:34:35", "text": "Nobody agrees on what it was originally"}, {"end": "01:34:42", "start": "01:34:37", "text": "used for, but every year crop formations"}, {"end": "01:34:45", "start": "01:34:40", "text": "appear near it, sometimes right next to"}, {"end": "01:34:47", "start": "01:34:42", "text": "it. And by the way, the whole thing is"}, {"end": "01:34:50", "start": "01:34:45", "text": "one giant pile of chalk. Not far from"}, {"end": "01:34:52", "start": "01:34:47", "text": "Silbury Hill is Stonehenge. Crop circles"}, {"end": "01:34:54", "start": "01:34:50", "text": "appear there, too. One of the most"}, {"end": "01:34:58", "start": "01:34:52", "text": "famous of these is called the Stonehenge"}, {"end": "01:35:00", "start": "01:34:54", "text": "Surprise. On Sunday, July 7th, 1996,"}, {"end": "01:35:03", "start": "01:34:58", "text": "this formation appeared mere feet from"}, {"end": "01:35:05", "start": "01:35:00", "text": "Stonehenge. It's been called one of the"}, {"end": "01:35:08", "start": "01:35:03", "text": "most complex and spectacular crop circle"}, {"end": "01:35:11", "start": "01:35:05", "text": "designs ever seen. The design is a"}, {"end": "01:35:14", "start": "01:35:08", "text": "Julius set, a type of fractal. Fractals"}, {"end": "01:35:16", "start": "01:35:11", "text": "are visual representations of mathematic"}, {"end": "01:35:18", "start": "01:35:14", "text": "formulas that repeat themselves at"}, {"end": "01:35:20", "start": "01:35:16", "text": "different scales. Zoom way in or way"}, {"end": "01:35:22", "start": "01:35:18", "text": "out, the pattern is the same. Look at"}, {"end": "01:35:24", "start": "01:35:20", "text": "how close Stonehenge is to the"}, {"end": "01:35:27", "start": "01:35:22", "text": "formation. Look at the visibility."}, {"end": "01:35:29", "start": "01:35:24", "text": "Stonehenge has 24-hour security. The"}, {"end": "01:35:32", "start": "01:35:27", "text": "guards saw nothing unusual the night"}, {"end": "01:35:34", "start": "01:35:29", "text": "before. Crop formations also appear near"}, {"end": "01:35:37", "start": "01:35:32", "text": "Avery, which is in the same area. The"}, {"end": "01:35:40", "start": "01:35:34", "text": "Avery Henge is massive, twice the size"}, {"end": "01:35:42", "start": "01:35:37", "text": "of Stonehenge. Now a lay line is"}, {"end": "01:35:44", "start": "01:35:40", "text": "believed to be an invisible path or"}, {"end": "01:35:46", "start": "01:35:42", "text": "energy line that connects sacred sites."}, {"end": "01:35:48", "start": "01:35:44", "text": "Lay lines are thought to create a"}, {"end": "01:35:50", "start": "01:35:46", "text": "network of energy across the earth"}, {"end": "01:35:53", "start": "01:35:48", "text": "influencing the flow of energy and"}, {"end": "01:35:55", "start": "01:35:50", "text": "aligning with cosmic forces. The area"}, {"end": "01:35:57", "start": "01:35:53", "text": "around Stonehenge is on one of those lay"}, {"end": "01:36:00", "start": "01:35:55", "text": "lines. If crop formations are an attempt"}, {"end": "01:36:02", "start": "01:35:57", "text": "at communication, they're clearly using"}, {"end": "01:36:05", "start": "01:36:00", "text": "mathematic concepts and this would make"}, {"end": "01:36:07", "start": "01:36:02", "text": "sense. Math is a universal language. But"}, {"end": "01:36:10", "start": "01:36:05", "text": "what do the messages mean? What story do"}, {"end": "01:36:11", "start": "01:36:07", "text": "they tell? Are crop formations proof of"}, {"end": "01:36:14", "start": "01:36:10", "text": "space travel? Do they offer an"}, {"end": "01:36:16", "start": "01:36:11", "text": "explanation for space travel? Are crop"}, {"end": "01:36:18", "start": "01:36:14", "text": "formations a map? Are they blueprints"}, {"end": "01:36:23", "start": "01:36:16", "text": "for a machine? Well, the answer to all"}, {"end": "01:36:23", "start": "01:36:18", "text": "those questions is yes."}, {"end": "01:36:28", "start": "01:36:24", "text": "Over the years, crop formations got more"}, {"end": "01:36:30", "start": "01:36:26", "text": "and more complex. What started out as"}, {"end": "01:36:34", "start": "01:36:28", "text": "simple circles became patterns like"}, {"end": "01:36:36", "start": "01:36:30", "text": "this. This is the famous Milkill Galaxy"}, {"end": "01:36:40", "start": "01:36:34", "text": "spiral found in 2001. The spiral"}, {"end": "01:36:44", "start": "01:36:36", "text": "consists of 409 perfect circles 1,000 ft"}, {"end": "01:36:46", "start": "01:36:40", "text": "across, spread over 700,000 square ft."}, {"end": "01:36:48", "start": "01:36:44", "text": "And look at how clean the design is."}, {"end": "01:36:50", "start": "01:36:46", "text": "That's not even flat ground. This"}, {"end": "01:36:52", "start": "01:36:48", "text": "formation is a hard one for skeptics to"}, {"end": "01:36:55", "start": "01:36:50", "text": "deal with. Remember, England is pretty"}, {"end": "01:36:57", "start": "01:36:52", "text": "far north. In the summer, the days are"}, {"end": "01:36:59", "start": "01:36:55", "text": "very, very long. The night the spiral"}, {"end": "01:37:02", "start": "01:36:57", "text": "was made, there was only about 4 hours"}, {"end": "01:37:04", "start": "01:36:59", "text": "of darkness. It would take a huge crew"}, {"end": "01:37:06", "start": "01:37:02", "text": "of people to lay down this pattern in 4"}, {"end": "01:37:09", "start": "01:37:04", "text": "hours. And by the way, it was raining"}, {"end": "01:37:10", "start": "01:37:06", "text": "the night it appeared. You'd think the"}, {"end": "01:37:12", "start": "01:37:09", "text": "field would be full of muddy footprints"}, {"end": "01:37:15", "start": "01:37:10", "text": "by the army of hoaxers it would take to"}, {"end": "01:37:18", "start": "01:37:12", "text": "make this, but nope. The milkill spiral"}, {"end": "01:37:20", "start": "01:37:15", "text": "is pristine. Fractals are a common theme"}, {"end": "01:37:22", "start": "01:37:18", "text": "with crop formations. Geometric shapes"}, {"end": "01:37:24", "start": "01:37:20", "text": "and other expressions of mathematic"}, {"end": "01:37:27", "start": "01:37:22", "text": "functions are also quite common. Even"}, {"end": "01:37:29", "start": "01:37:24", "text": "complex math problems are expressed."}, {"end": "01:37:30", "start": "01:37:27", "text": "Squaring the circle is a problem in"}, {"end": "01:37:33", "start": "01:37:29", "text": "geometry first proposed in Greek"}, {"end": "01:37:35", "start": "01:37:30", "text": "mathematics. Squaring the circle"}, {"end": "01:37:37", "start": "01:37:33", "text": "involves using a compass and a ruler to"}, {"end": "01:37:39", "start": "01:37:35", "text": "create a square and circle with the same"}, {"end": "01:37:41", "start": "01:37:37", "text": "area. Now, this has been proven"}, {"end": "01:37:44", "start": "01:37:39", "text": "impossible since calculating the area of"}, {"end": "01:37:46", "start": "01:37:41", "text": "a circle requires using pi. And if you"}, {"end": "01:37:48", "start": "01:37:44", "text": "remember your math lessons, pi is an"}, {"end": "01:37:50", "start": "01:37:46", "text": "irrational number, meaning it can never"}, {"end": "01:37:52", "start": "01:37:48", "text": "be exact. So, you can never get the area"}, {"end": "01:37:54", "start": "01:37:50", "text": "of a circle to equal the area of a"}, {"end": "01:37:57", "start": "01:37:52", "text": "square. But there are methods that allow"}, {"end": "01:38:00", "start": "01:37:54", "text": "you to get close. And these methods have"}, {"end": "01:38:01", "start": "01:37:57", "text": "been seen in crop formations for years."}, {"end": "01:38:03", "start": "01:38:00", "text": "Prop formations often use other"}, {"end": "01:38:06", "start": "01:38:01", "text": "mathematic concepts like the golden"}, {"end": "01:38:08", "start": "01:38:03", "text": "ratio and Fibonacci numbers. Here's a"}, {"end": "01:38:10", "start": "01:38:06", "text": "formation that when it appeared, people"}, {"end": "01:38:12", "start": "01:38:08", "text": "found very confusing. Then a"}, {"end": "01:38:14", "start": "01:38:10", "text": "mathematician solved it. It's a"}, {"end": "01:38:16", "start": "01:38:12", "text": "representation of pi out to 10 decimal"}, {"end": "01:38:18", "start": "01:38:14", "text": "places. The lengths of the arcs"}, {"end": "01:38:20", "start": "01:38:16", "text": "represent each digit. There's even a"}, {"end": "01:38:22", "start": "01:38:18", "text": "decimal point and an indication that the"}, {"end": "01:38:25", "start": "01:38:20", "text": "number continues forever. But there are"}, {"end": "01:38:27", "start": "01:38:22", "text": "also designs that at first glance look"}, {"end": "01:38:29", "start": "01:38:25", "text": "like geometry, but not exactly right."}, {"end": "01:38:31", "start": "01:38:27", "text": "That's when some researchers had the"}, {"end": "01:38:33", "start": "01:38:29", "text": "idea to stop looking and start"}, {"end": "01:38:35", "start": "01:38:31", "text": "listening. This particular circle"}, {"end": "01:38:37", "start": "01:38:33", "text": "resembles what's called a simatic"}, {"end": "01:38:39", "start": "01:38:35", "text": "pattern. A simatic pattern is a shape"}, {"end": "01:38:42", "start": "01:38:37", "text": "that forms when sound waves vibrate a"}, {"end": "01:38:44", "start": "01:38:39", "text": "material like water or sand. Erns"}, {"end": "01:38:46", "start": "01:38:42", "text": "Cloudney was a German physicist and"}, {"end": "01:38:48", "start": "01:38:44", "text": "musician who documented sematic"}, {"end": "01:38:50", "start": "01:38:46", "text": "patterns. He proved that different sound"}, {"end": "01:38:52", "start": "01:38:48", "text": "frequencies create different patterns"}, {"end": "01:38:54", "start": "01:38:50", "text": "and these patterns could be predicted"}, {"end": "01:38:56", "start": "01:38:52", "text": "and repeated. Could the builder of this"}, {"end": "01:38:59", "start": "01:38:54", "text": "crop circle be telling us that this"}, {"end": "01:39:01", "start": "01:38:56", "text": "sound frequency has special meaning? If"}, {"end": "01:39:04", "start": "01:38:59", "text": "it does, how do we apply it? Well, let's"}, {"end": "01:39:06", "start": "01:39:01", "text": "look for more clues. In 2011, this"}, {"end": "01:39:08", "start": "01:39:04", "text": "double spiral formation appeared on"}, {"end": "01:39:10", "start": "01:39:06", "text": "Windmill Hill, the location of another"}, {"end": "01:39:12", "start": "01:39:08", "text": "ancient site. The same day, another"}, {"end": "01:39:15", "start": "01:39:10", "text": "double spiral appeared near Stonehenge,"}, {"end": "01:39:17", "start": "01:39:12", "text": "just a few miles away. Dr. Jerry Croth"}, {"end": "01:39:19", "start": "01:39:15", "text": "thought these formations could represent"}, {"end": "01:39:22", "start": "01:39:17", "text": "neutron stars. And although it's very"}, {"end": "01:39:26", "start": "01:39:19", "text": "rare, sometimes neutron stars collide"}, {"end": "01:39:26", "start": "01:39:22", "text": "and form a magnetar."}, {"end": "01:39:31", "start": "01:39:27", "text": "What makes magnetars unique is their"}, {"end": "01:39:33", "start": "01:39:29", "text": "incredibly strong magnetic fields, which"}, {"end": "01:39:36", "start": "01:39:31", "text": "are among the strongest known in the"}, {"end": "01:39:36", "start": "01:39:33", "text": "universe."}, {"end": "01:39:41", "start": "01:39:36", "text": "These magnetic fields are thousands to"}, {"end": "01:39:43", "start": "01:39:38", "text": "billions of times stronger than those of"}, {"end": "01:39:46", "start": "01:39:41", "text": "neutron stars. A magnetar's gravity is"}, {"end": "01:39:48", "start": "01:39:43", "text": "so strong that it dramatically warps"}, {"end": "01:39:50", "start": "01:39:46", "text": "spaceime around it. In theory, this"}, {"end": "01:39:53", "start": "01:39:48", "text": "warping of spaceime could lead to an"}, {"end": "01:39:56", "start": "01:39:50", "text": "Einstein Rosen bridge, better known as a"}, {"end": "01:39:58", "start": "01:39:53", "text": "wormhole. A wormhole, again, in theory,"}, {"end": "01:40:00", "start": "01:39:56", "text": "can connect two very distant points in"}, {"end": "01:40:03", "start": "01:39:58", "text": "space, essentially creating a shortcut"}, {"end": "01:40:05", "start": "01:40:00", "text": "that allows you to travel to a location"}, {"end": "01:40:07", "start": "01:40:03", "text": "faster than light could get there in a"}, {"end": "01:40:09", "start": "01:40:05", "text": "straight line. Now, I'm aware this is a"}, {"end": "01:40:11", "start": "01:40:07", "text": "lot of in theory and possibly and maybe"}, {"end": "01:40:14", "start": "01:40:09", "text": "regarding these crop formations. After"}, {"end": "01:40:16", "start": "01:40:11", "text": "all, magnetars are so rare that in the"}, {"end": "01:40:17", "start": "01:40:14", "text": "entire galaxy, only 10 have ever been"}, {"end": "01:40:21", "start": "01:40:16", "text": "found."}, {"end": "01:40:21", "start": "01:40:17", "text": "Well, 11"}, {"end": "01:40:26", "start": "01:40:22", "text": "because the following day, literally the"}, {"end": "01:40:29", "start": "01:40:24", "text": "day after these crop formations"}, {"end": "01:40:30", "start": "01:40:26", "text": "appeared, a new magnetar appeared. I"}, {"end": "01:40:32", "start": "01:40:29", "text": "don't mean it was always there and was"}, {"end": "01:40:35", "start": "01:40:30", "text": "just discovered. I mean it wasn't there"}, {"end": "01:40:38", "start": "01:40:32", "text": "yesterday and it's there today. Then in"}, {"end": "01:40:40", "start": "01:40:35", "text": "2022, this crop formation appears. Two"}, {"end": "01:40:43", "start": "01:40:38", "text": "sections of concentric rings connected"}, {"end": "01:40:45", "start": "01:40:40", "text": "by a line. It's been theorized that this"}, {"end": "01:40:48", "start": "01:40:43", "text": "represents a wormhole. It shows two"}, {"end": "01:40:50", "start": "01:40:45", "text": "points in space surrounded by warped"}, {"end": "01:40:52", "start": "01:40:48", "text": "spaceime and then a portal between. The"}, {"end": "01:40:54", "start": "01:40:50", "text": "outer ring represents the bending of"}, {"end": "01:40:56", "start": "01:40:52", "text": "spaceime. Now maybe this crop formation"}, {"end": "01:40:58", "start": "01:40:54", "text": "is just a design with no special"}, {"end": "01:41:01", "start": "01:40:56", "text": "meaning, but that would be rare. Almost"}, {"end": "01:41:04", "start": "01:40:58", "text": "all crop formations have a message or"}, {"end": "01:41:06", "start": "01:41:01", "text": "purpose. So let's assume for fun that"}, {"end": "01:41:08", "start": "01:41:04", "text": "all these messages are puzzle pieces"}, {"end": "01:41:10", "start": "01:41:06", "text": "that when the pieces are fit together,"}, {"end": "01:41:12", "start": "01:41:08", "text": "they show proof of a wormhole and a map"}, {"end": "01:41:14", "start": "01:41:10", "text": "of how to get to it. But how how do we"}, {"end": "01:41:16", "start": "01:41:12", "text": "do that? Well, that's the question that"}, {"end": "01:41:19", "start": "01:41:14", "text": "electrical engineer Nicola Romansky"}, {"end": "01:41:21", "start": "01:41:16", "text": "asked. Nicola saw this image of a crop"}, {"end": "01:41:23", "start": "01:41:19", "text": "circle that seemed to be meaningless. It"}, {"end": "01:41:25", "start": "01:41:21", "text": "didn't have a recognizable geometry. It"}, {"end": "01:41:28", "start": "01:41:23", "text": "wasn't symmetrical. But Nicola had an"}, {"end": "01:41:30", "start": "01:41:25", "text": "idea. He brought the shape into his 3D"}, {"end": "01:41:32", "start": "01:41:28", "text": "software and extruded it around the"}, {"end": "01:41:34", "start": "01:41:30", "text": "center axis. Meaning, he spun it around"}, {"end": "01:41:37", "start": "01:41:32", "text": "to make a shape. So, Nicola found more"}, {"end": "01:41:39", "start": "01:41:34", "text": "crop formations and did the same thing."}, {"end": "01:41:42", "start": "01:41:37", "text": "He rotated the designs around a central"}, {"end": "01:41:44", "start": "01:41:39", "text": "axis to create their shapes in 3D. And"}, {"end": "01:41:46", "start": "01:41:42", "text": "after a while, he had a collection of"}, {"end": "01:41:47", "start": "01:41:44", "text": "what appeared to be blueprints,"}, {"end": "01:41:49", "start": "01:41:46", "text": "instructions on how to create some kind"}, {"end": "01:41:50", "start": "01:41:47", "text": "of machine."}, {"end": "01:41:55", "start": "01:41:49", "text": ">> So, what did he do?"}, {"end": "01:41:55", "start": "01:41:50", "text": ">> What do you think he did? He built it."}, {"end": "01:42:01", "start": "01:41:56", "text": ">> Nicola Romans reached out to filmmaker"}, {"end": "01:42:02", "start": "01:41:58", "text": "Charles Maxwell and asked for help."}, {"end": "01:42:05", "start": "01:42:01", "text": "Maxwell was working on a documentary"}, {"end": "01:42:07", "start": "01:42:02", "text": "about prop circles. Nicola needed help"}, {"end": "01:42:09", "start": "01:42:05", "text": "and funding to build his machine. This"}, {"end": "01:42:13", "start": "01:42:07", "text": "machine, he thought, was a vehicle that"}, {"end": "01:42:14", "start": "01:42:09", "text": "ran on 0 energy. could alter gravity and"}, {"end": "01:42:17", "start": "01:42:13", "text": "reach light speed. How can you not build"}, {"end": "01:42:19", "start": "01:42:14", "text": "it? So, they enlisted 3D designers and"}, {"end": "01:42:22", "start": "01:42:17", "text": "machinists. They hired electricians and"}, {"end": "01:42:24", "start": "01:42:19", "text": "fabricators. It took over 3 years and"}, {"end": "01:42:26", "start": "01:42:22", "text": "they finally had their prototype."}, {"end": "01:42:27", "start": "01:42:24", "text": ">> It didn't work."}, {"end": "01:42:29", "start": "01:42:26", "text": ">> Well, they got some plasma to ignite,"}, {"end": "01:42:30", "start": "01:42:27", "text": "but they ran out of money."}, {"end": "01:42:31", "start": "01:42:29", "text": ">> Oh."}, {"end": "01:42:33", "start": "01:42:30", "text": ">> The entire process is in the"}, {"end": "01:42:35", "start": "01:42:31", "text": "documentary, which I linked below. The"}, {"end": "01:42:36", "start": "01:42:33", "text": "truth is, whatever they were building"}, {"end": "01:42:38", "start": "01:42:35", "text": "probably wasn't going to work. But it's"}, {"end": "01:42:40", "start": "01:42:36", "text": "possible that Nicola was on to"}, {"end": "01:42:43", "start": "01:42:38", "text": "something. that the secret to zero point"}, {"end": "01:42:48", "start": "01:42:40", "text": "energy, gravity, and spaceime all comes"}, {"end": "01:42:48", "start": "01:42:43", "text": "down to one thing, spin."}, {"end": "01:42:53", "start": "01:42:48", "text": "Whenever government whistleblowers"}, {"end": "01:42:54", "start": "01:42:50", "text": "describe reverse engineering UFOs, spin"}, {"end": "01:42:57", "start": "01:42:53", "text": "is always a core piece of the"}, {"end": "01:42:59", "start": "01:42:54", "text": "technology. According to Mark McCand, a"}, {"end": "01:43:01", "start": "01:42:57", "text": "former aerospace designer, UFO"}, {"end": "01:43:04", "start": "01:42:59", "text": "anti-gravity and propulsion are achieved"}, {"end": "01:43:07", "start": "01:43:01", "text": "by rotating liquid mercury. The infamous"}, {"end": "01:43:09", "start": "01:43:04", "text": "Nazi bell-shaped UFO DLA was said to use"}, {"end": "01:43:11", "start": "01:43:07", "text": "similar technology. Bob Lazar talked"}, {"end": "01:43:15", "start": "01:43:09", "text": "about studying element 115 when he"}, {"end": "01:43:17", "start": "01:43:11", "text": "worked at Area 51. E115 is said to power"}, {"end": "01:43:19", "start": "01:43:15", "text": "alien spacecraft and Lazar made those"}, {"end": "01:43:22", "start": "01:43:17", "text": "claims in the 1980s. There was no such"}, {"end": "01:43:24", "start": "01:43:19", "text": "element. But in 2003, E115 was"}, {"end": "01:43:27", "start": "01:43:22", "text": "discovered. A whistleblower came forward"}, {"end": "01:43:29", "start": "01:43:24", "text": "just a few weeks ago. He claims to have"}, {"end": "01:43:31", "start": "01:43:27", "text": "been a military contractor working on"}, {"end": "01:43:34", "start": "01:43:29", "text": "reverse engineering UFOs. He said their"}, {"end": "01:43:37", "start": "01:43:31", "text": "engines use counterrotating cylinders"}, {"end": "01:43:39", "start": "01:43:34", "text": "with element 115 as the power source."}, {"end": "01:43:41", "start": "01:43:37", "text": "Russian physicist Nikolai Koserev"}, {"end": "01:43:43", "start": "01:43:39", "text": "believed the twisting and spinning of"}, {"end": "01:43:46", "start": "01:43:41", "text": "spaceime called torsion was the secret"}, {"end": "01:43:49", "start": "01:43:43", "text": "to unlocking gravity and unlocking"}, {"end": "01:43:51", "start": "01:43:46", "text": "everything. In 2019, an engineer working"}, {"end": "01:43:54", "start": "01:43:49", "text": "for the US Navy filed a patent for a"}, {"end": "01:43:55", "start": "01:43:51", "text": "plasma compression fusion device. This"}, {"end": "01:43:57", "start": "01:43:54", "text": "is a machine that can generate a"}, {"end": "01:44:00", "start": "01:43:55", "text": "tremendous amount of power, like"}, {"end": "01:44:02", "start": "01:43:57", "text": "terowatts of power in a small package."}, {"end": "01:44:04", "start": "01:44:00", "text": "The device is about the size of a car,"}, {"end": "01:44:07", "start": "01:44:02", "text": "but can put out as much energy as a"}, {"end": "01:44:09", "start": "01:44:04", "text": "nuclear power plant. If it's real, the"}, {"end": "01:44:12", "start": "01:44:07", "text": "energy is clean and unlimited. His"}, {"end": "01:44:14", "start": "01:44:09", "text": "invention is based on spin. The"}, {"end": "01:44:16", "start": "01:44:12", "text": "scientist is Salvador Pice and he"}, {"end": "01:44:18", "start": "01:44:14", "text": "currently works for the US Space Force."}, {"end": "01:44:20", "start": "01:44:16", "text": "He's filed quite a few interesting"}, {"end": "01:44:22", "start": "01:44:18", "text": "patents on behalf of the United States"}, {"end": "01:44:24", "start": "01:44:20", "text": "government. Propulsion engines, room"}, {"end": "01:44:26", "start": "01:44:22", "text": "temperature superconductors, inertial"}, {"end": "01:44:29", "start": "01:44:24", "text": "mass reduction devices, and"}, {"end": "01:44:31", "start": "01:44:26", "text": "highfrequency gravitational wave"}, {"end": "01:44:33", "start": "01:44:29", "text": "generators. This may sound like science"}, {"end": "01:44:36", "start": "01:44:31", "text": "fiction, but the US military is taking"}, {"end": "01:44:38", "start": "01:44:33", "text": "these patents very seriously. Every"}, {"end": "01:44:40", "start": "01:44:36", "text": "single one of them is based on spin."}, {"end": "01:44:42", "start": "01:44:38", "text": "Now, I don't know if it's irony or"}, {"end": "01:44:44", "start": "01:44:40", "text": "poetic justice, but it could turn out"}, {"end": "01:44:46", "start": "01:44:42", "text": "that nature's most mysterious secrets,"}, {"end": "01:44:48", "start": "01:44:44", "text": "like gravity, won't be discovered in a"}, {"end": "01:44:51", "start": "01:44:46", "text": "lab. It's possible that unlocking the"}, {"end": "01:44:54", "start": "01:44:48", "text": "secrets of nature, might be done in a"}, {"end": "01:44:54", "start": "01:44:51", "text": "field of wheat."}, {"end": "01:44:59", "start": "01:44:55", "text": "Crop circles are a controversial"}, {"end": "01:45:01", "start": "01:44:57", "text": "subject. The history of the crop circle"}, {"end": "01:45:03", "start": "01:44:59", "text": "community, if that's what you want to"}, {"end": "01:45:05", "start": "01:45:01", "text": "call it, is filled with intrigue, lies,"}, {"end": "01:45:08", "start": "01:45:03", "text": "and double crosses. Today, if you bring"}, {"end": "01:45:10", "start": "01:45:05", "text": "up crop circles in any mainstream venue,"}, {"end": "01:45:12", "start": "01:45:08", "text": "you'll get eye rolls and laughter. But"}, {"end": "01:45:14", "start": "01:45:10", "text": "that wasn't always the case. At one"}, {"end": "01:45:16", "start": "01:45:12", "text": "time, crop formations were taken"}, {"end": "01:45:18", "start": "01:45:14", "text": "seriously by the media, the government,"}, {"end": "01:45:20", "start": "01:45:16", "text": "and the general population. A new type"}, {"end": "01:45:22", "start": "01:45:18", "text": "of science emerged called seriology,"}, {"end": "01:45:24", "start": "01:45:20", "text": "named for series, the goddess of"}, {"end": "01:45:26", "start": "01:45:22", "text": "agriculture and grain crops. Journals"}, {"end": "01:45:28", "start": "01:45:24", "text": "were created. Articles about crop"}, {"end": "01:45:31", "start": "01:45:26", "text": "formations were mainstream. Nick Pope"}, {"end": "01:45:33", "start": "01:45:28", "text": "spent over 20 years investigating UFOs"}, {"end": "01:45:35", "start": "01:45:31", "text": "for the British Ministry of Defense. He"}, {"end": "01:45:38", "start": "01:45:33", "text": "said the army started investigating crop"}, {"end": "01:45:41", "start": "01:45:35", "text": "circles in 1985. Then glyphs started to"}, {"end": "01:45:43", "start": "01:45:38", "text": "appear in southern England in 1989 and"}, {"end": "01:45:45", "start": "01:45:41", "text": "crop formations were becoming complex."}, {"end": "01:45:46", "start": "01:45:43", "text": "There seemed to be an intelligence at"}, {"end": "01:45:48", "start": "01:45:45", "text": "work. Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher"}, {"end": "01:45:51", "start": "01:45:46", "text": "asked her cabinet to find out what the"}, {"end": "01:45:54", "start": "01:45:48", "text": "hell was going on. The following summer,"}, {"end": "01:45:56", "start": "01:45:51", "text": "Operation Blackbird was launched."}, {"end": "01:45:59", "start": "01:45:54", "text": "Blackbird was a 3-week surveillance"}, {"end": "01:46:02", "start": "01:45:56", "text": "operation with a goal of filming a crop"}, {"end": "01:46:04", "start": "01:45:59", "text": "circle forming in real time. The project"}, {"end": "01:46:06", "start": "01:46:02", "text": "was planned by prominent crop circle"}, {"end": "01:46:08", "start": "01:46:04", "text": "researchers Colin Andrews and Pat"}, {"end": "01:46:11", "start": "01:46:06", "text": "Delgado. It was sponsored by the BBC and"}, {"end": "01:46:12", "start": "01:46:08", "text": "Japanese National Television. Not only"}, {"end": "01:46:14", "start": "01:46:11", "text": "did the project have the blessing of the"}, {"end": "01:46:16", "start": "01:46:12", "text": "British government, but the crops to be"}, {"end": "01:46:18", "start": "01:46:14", "text": "filmed were on land owned by the"}, {"end": "01:46:21", "start": "01:46:16", "text": "Ministry of Defense. By working with the"}, {"end": "01:46:23", "start": "01:46:18", "text": "MOD, acres of farmland could be cordoned"}, {"end": "01:46:25", "start": "01:46:21", "text": "off to keep out hoaxers and prevent any"}, {"end": "01:46:27", "start": "01:46:23", "text": "genuine crop circles from being trampled"}, {"end": "01:46:29", "start": "01:46:25", "text": "by a curious and excited public. The"}, {"end": "01:46:31", "start": "01:46:27", "text": "military had every inch of the field"}, {"end": "01:46:33", "start": "01:46:29", "text": "covered with cameras. They had night"}, {"end": "01:46:36", "start": "01:46:31", "text": "vision and even infrared cameras to"}, {"end": "01:46:38", "start": "01:46:33", "text": "detect body heat. If a circle was going"}, {"end": "01:46:40", "start": "01:46:36", "text": "to form, it would definitely be seen."}, {"end": "01:46:42", "start": "01:46:38", "text": "This was a huge event. Millions of"}, {"end": "01:46:44", "start": "01:46:40", "text": "people around the world watched. And"}, {"end": "01:46:46", "start": "01:46:42", "text": "every day, Colin Andrews would appear on"}, {"end": "01:46:49", "start": "01:46:44", "text": "TV and describe the day's events. On day"}, {"end": "01:46:51", "start": "01:46:46", "text": "two, a crop circle appeared. And Colin"}, {"end": "01:46:52", "start": "01:46:49", "text": "Andrews went on television and spoke"}, {"end": "01:46:55", "start": "01:46:51", "text": "very enthusiastically about the"}, {"end": "01:46:58", "start": "01:46:52", "text": "discovery. And then everything came"}, {"end": "01:47:00", "start": "01:46:55", "text": "crashing down. The formation was a hoax."}, {"end": "01:47:03", "start": "01:46:58", "text": "Not just a hoax, but an embarrassing"}, {"end": "01:47:05", "start": "01:47:00", "text": "one. The design was crude and placed in"}, {"end": "01:47:07", "start": "01:47:03", "text": "the center of the circle, was an"}, {"end": "01:47:09", "start": "01:47:05", "text": "astrology board game. Colin Andrews, a"}, {"end": "01:47:11", "start": "01:47:07", "text": "serious investigator, and the face of"}, {"end": "01:47:12", "start": "01:47:09", "text": "the crop circle phenomenon, was"}, {"end": "01:47:13", "start": "01:47:11", "text": "humiliated."}, {"end": "01:47:15", "start": "01:47:12", "text": ">> Somebody's had a laugh. They've had a"}, {"end": "01:47:17", "start": "01:47:13", "text": "joke. They've actually done none of us"}, {"end": "01:47:20", "start": "01:47:15", "text": "any good. That sets these sort of things"}, {"end": "01:47:22", "start": "01:47:17", "text": "uh only set the research back. In the"}, {"end": "01:47:24", "start": "01:47:20", "text": "span of an afternoon, the field of crop"}, {"end": "01:47:27", "start": "01:47:22", "text": "circle research went from mainstream"}, {"end": "01:47:28", "start": "01:47:24", "text": "science to fringe theory, and it's been"}, {"end": "01:47:28", "start": "01:47:27", "text": "there ever since."}, {"end": "01:47:29", "start": "01:47:28", "text": ">> Hang on."}, {"end": "01:47:31", "start": "01:47:28", "text": ">> What?"}, {"end": "01:47:32", "start": "01:47:29", "text": ">> If the army had the whole thing blocked"}, {"end": "01:47:34", "start": "01:47:31", "text": "off and covered with cameras, how come"}, {"end": "01:47:35", "start": "01:47:32", "text": "they didn't see nothing?"}, {"end": "01:47:37", "start": "01:47:34", "text": ">> It was a setup."}, {"end": "01:47:38", "start": "01:47:35", "text": ">> It was a setup. Well, allegedly."}, {"end": "01:47:40", "start": "01:47:37", "text": ">> Totally a setup."}, {"end": "01:47:41", "start": "01:47:38", "text": ">> Colin Andrews believes, and I think"}, {"end": "01:47:44", "start": "01:47:40", "text": "there's plenty of evidence to support"}, {"end": "01:47:46", "start": "01:47:41", "text": "his theory, that the army intentionally"}, {"end": "01:47:48", "start": "01:47:44", "text": "wanted to discredit him and the entire"}, {"end": "01:47:49", "start": "01:47:46", "text": "crop circle phenomenon. That doesn't"}, {"end": "01:47:52", "start": "01:47:48", "text": "mean the military didn't believe in crop"}, {"end": "01:47:54", "start": "01:47:49", "text": "formations. Quite the opposite. At the"}, {"end": "01:47:57", "start": "01:47:52", "text": "same exact time the highly public"}, {"end": "01:47:59", "start": "01:47:54", "text": "operation Blackbird was going on, the"}, {"end": "01:48:01", "start": "01:47:57", "text": "army was running a secret surveillance"}, {"end": "01:48:03", "start": "01:47:59", "text": "operation a few miles away on Silbury"}, {"end": "01:48:05", "start": "01:48:01", "text": "Hill. In fact, they allegedly had film"}, {"end": "01:48:07", "start": "01:48:03", "text": "of bright orbs flying over the fields"}, {"end": "01:48:10", "start": "01:48:05", "text": "just to the south of the hill. But this"}, {"end": "01:48:11", "start": "01:48:07", "text": "operation only became known later. It"}, {"end": "01:48:13", "start": "01:48:10", "text": "appears that Blackbird was slight of"}, {"end": "01:48:15", "start": "01:48:11", "text": "hand. get the public focused on"}, {"end": "01:48:18", "start": "01:48:13", "text": "Blackbird while the real operation took"}, {"end": "01:48:20", "start": "01:48:15", "text": "place a few miles away. Even now, when"}, {"end": "01:48:22", "start": "01:48:18", "text": "crop circles or glowing orbs appear,"}, {"end": "01:48:24", "start": "01:48:20", "text": "it's not uncommon for military"}, {"end": "01:48:26", "start": "01:48:22", "text": "helicopters to show up. Not only do the"}, {"end": "01:48:28", "start": "01:48:24", "text": "helicopters patrol the area, but they'll"}, {"end": "01:48:30", "start": "01:48:26", "text": "also chase the orbs around the"}, {"end": "01:48:31", "start": "01:48:28", "text": "countryside. Clearly, the military"}, {"end": "01:48:33", "start": "01:48:30", "text": "believes that crop formations are"}, {"end": "01:48:36", "start": "01:48:31", "text": "something more than simple hoaxes. But"}, {"end": "01:48:38", "start": "01:48:33", "text": "after the Blackbird fiasco, none of this"}, {"end": "01:48:41", "start": "01:48:36", "text": "mattered. Crop circles were debunked and"}, {"end": "01:48:43", "start": "01:48:38", "text": "Colin Andrews became a fringe character."}, {"end": "01:48:45", "start": "01:48:41", "text": "Colin's partner, Pat Delgado, was so"}, {"end": "01:48:47", "start": "01:48:43", "text": "disheartened by the Blackbird hoax that"}, {"end": "01:48:49", "start": "01:48:45", "text": "he retired and gave up his research."}, {"end": "01:48:51", "start": "01:48:47", "text": ">> Sounds like deep state wins again, huh?"}, {"end": "01:48:52", "start": "01:48:49", "text": ">> But that's not the end of the story."}, {"end": "01:48:54", "start": "01:48:51", "text": ">> Go on."}, {"end": "01:48:56", "start": "01:48:52", "text": ">> Colin Andrews may have become fringe in"}, {"end": "01:48:59", "start": "01:48:54", "text": "the public's eye, but he was a serious"}, {"end": "01:49:01", "start": "01:48:56", "text": "investigator and crop circles were a"}, {"end": "01:49:03", "start": "01:48:59", "text": "real phenomenon. Even without mainstream"}, {"end": "01:49:05", "start": "01:49:01", "text": "support, he continued his work and"}, {"end": "01:49:07", "start": "01:49:03", "text": "plenty of people supported him."}, {"end": "01:49:09", "start": "01:49:05", "text": "Believers in crop circles were now"}, {"end": "01:49:11", "start": "01:49:07", "text": "fringe believers, but they still"}, {"end": "01:49:13", "start": "01:49:09", "text": "believed. This could be a problem for"}, {"end": "01:49:15", "start": "01:49:11", "text": "the government. They couldn't allow crop"}, {"end": "01:49:16", "start": "01:49:13", "text": "circles back into the mainstream. So,"}, {"end": "01:49:18", "start": "01:49:15", "text": "British intelligence began a"}, {"end": "01:49:21", "start": "01:49:16", "text": "disinformation campaign. And to help"}, {"end": "01:49:22", "start": "01:49:18", "text": "them spread disinformation, they brought"}, {"end": "01:49:23", "start": "01:49:21", "text": "in the best"}, {"end": "01:49:26", "start": "01:49:22", "text": ">> CIA."}, {"end": "01:49:29", "start": "01:49:23", "text": ">> CIA. In his 1999 book, Cosmic Top"}, {"end": "01:49:31", "start": "01:49:26", "text": "Secret: The Unseen Agenda, author John"}, {"end": "01:49:33", "start": "01:49:29", "text": "King got Colin Andrews to sit for an"}, {"end": "01:49:35", "start": "01:49:31", "text": "interview. Colin knew that the only way"}, {"end": "01:49:38", "start": "01:49:33", "text": "hoaxers could get onto that field during"}, {"end": "01:49:40", "start": "01:49:35", "text": "Blackbird was if it was an inside job."}, {"end": "01:49:42", "start": "01:49:38", "text": "When Colin made the announcement that a"}, {"end": "01:49:44", "start": "01:49:40", "text": "crop circle appeared, he hadn't even"}, {"end": "01:49:46", "start": "01:49:42", "text": "seen it yet. It was pitch black. He was"}, {"end": "01:49:48", "start": "01:49:44", "text": "pressured to make the announcement, so"}, {"end": "01:49:50", "start": "01:49:46", "text": "he did. He didn't report what he had"}, {"end": "01:49:52", "start": "01:49:48", "text": "seen with his own eyes. He reported what"}, {"end": "01:49:54", "start": "01:49:50", "text": "was described to him by the army. As"}, {"end": "01:49:55", "start": "01:49:52", "text": "soon as the sun came up, he knew it was"}, {"end": "01:49:58", "start": "01:49:54", "text": "a hoax, but there was nothing he could"}, {"end": "01:50:00", "start": "01:49:55", "text": "do. He had a deal with the military that"}, {"end": "01:50:02", "start": "01:49:58", "text": "they would provide people, equipment,"}, {"end": "01:50:02", "start": "01:50:00", "text": "and land, but he had to cooperate with"}, {"end": "01:50:04", "start": "01:50:02", "text": "them."}, {"end": "01:50:07", "start": "01:50:02", "text": ">> A big mistake. You shake hands with the"}, {"end": "01:50:08", "start": "01:50:04", "text": "military-industrial complex, you're"}, {"end": "01:50:11", "start": "01:50:07", "text": "making a deal with the devil."}, {"end": "01:50:13", "start": "01:50:08", "text": ">> Yep. According to Colin, phase one of"}, {"end": "01:50:15", "start": "01:50:11", "text": "the disinformation campaign was to"}, {"end": "01:50:17", "start": "01:50:13", "text": "debunk Crop Circles with Operation"}, {"end": "01:50:19", "start": "01:50:15", "text": "Blackbird. Phase two was Doug and Dave,"}, {"end": "01:50:21", "start": "01:50:17", "text": "who showed up a year later. Doug Bower"}, {"end": "01:50:23", "start": "01:50:19", "text": "and Dave Chroley admitted to being the"}, {"end": "01:50:26", "start": "01:50:21", "text": "makers of Crop Circles, and to this day,"}, {"end": "01:50:27", "start": "01:50:23", "text": "that's the official explanation. Colin"}, {"end": "01:50:28", "start": "01:50:26", "text": "doesn't think they're part of the"}, {"end": "01:50:31", "start": "01:50:27", "text": "intelligence community, but he believes"}, {"end": "01:50:32", "start": "01:50:28", "text": "they were used by and compensated by"}, {"end": "01:50:34", "start": "01:50:31", "text": "people in the IC."}, {"end": "01:50:36", "start": "01:50:32", "text": ">> They were paid. Oh yeah, they were paid"}, {"end": "01:50:37", "start": "01:50:34", "text": "thousands of dollars for their story. We"}, {"end": "01:50:40", "start": "01:50:36", "text": "know this for a fact because they were"}, {"end": "01:50:40", "start": "01:50:37", "text": "only paid half up front. They had to sue"}, {"end": "01:50:42", "start": "01:50:40", "text": "for the other half."}, {"end": "01:50:45", "start": "01:50:40", "text": ">> Deal with the devil."}, {"end": "01:50:47", "start": "01:50:42", "text": ">> Next came phase three. A freelance"}, {"end": "01:50:49", "start": "01:50:45", "text": "journalist named Jim Schnabel arrived on"}, {"end": "01:50:52", "start": "01:50:47", "text": "the scene. According to Colin Andrews,"}, {"end": "01:50:55", "start": "01:50:49", "text": "Schnable was CIA. Now, James Schnable"}, {"end": "01:50:57", "start": "01:50:52", "text": "was not an official CIA officer, but he"}, {"end": "01:50:59", "start": "01:50:55", "text": "certainly could have been an agent. If"}, {"end": "01:51:00", "start": "01:50:57", "text": "you search his name in the CIA database,"}, {"end": "01:51:02", "start": "01:50:59", "text": "you'll get plenty of hits. And"}, {"end": "01:51:04", "start": "01:51:00", "text": "Schneabel's name is always connected to"}, {"end": "01:51:06", "start": "01:51:02", "text": "paranormal cases like crop circles and"}, {"end": "01:51:08", "start": "01:51:04", "text": "remote viewing. Anyway, Schnable was"}, {"end": "01:51:10", "start": "01:51:06", "text": "conducting private interviews with"}, {"end": "01:51:12", "start": "01:51:08", "text": "everyone involved with Blackbird and"}, {"end": "01:51:14", "start": "01:51:10", "text": "with other crop circle researchers. He"}, {"end": "01:51:16", "start": "01:51:12", "text": "was driving wedges between people,"}, {"end": "01:51:18", "start": "01:51:14", "text": "misquing them, and pushing the narrative"}, {"end": "01:51:20", "start": "01:51:16", "text": "that crop circles were debunked. Colin"}, {"end": "01:51:22", "start": "01:51:18", "text": "Andrews became convinced of Schneable's"}, {"end": "01:51:24", "start": "01:51:20", "text": "CIA involvement during a spooky"}, {"end": "01:51:26", "start": "01:51:22", "text": "conversation. Schneable had recorded and"}, {"end": "01:51:29", "start": "01:51:24", "text": "read to Colin the details of private"}, {"end": "01:51:31", "start": "01:51:26", "text": "conversations Colin had one evening"}, {"end": "01:51:33", "start": "01:51:29", "text": "while sitting in his car alone. And"}, {"end": "01:51:35", "start": "01:51:31", "text": "Colin Andrews has other evidence that he"}, {"end": "01:51:37", "start": "01:51:33", "text": "was being bugged and surveiled. It has"}, {"end": "01:51:38", "start": "01:51:35", "text": "to do a lot with invoices and stuff and"}, {"end": "01:51:38", "start": "01:51:37", "text": "I'll link below if you want the"}, {"end": "01:51:41", "start": "01:51:38", "text": "specifics."}, {"end": "01:51:44", "start": "01:51:38", "text": ">> Uh he literally has the receipts."}, {"end": "01:51:46", "start": "01:51:41", "text": ">> He has the receipts. And look, it's very"}, {"end": "01:51:48", "start": "01:51:44", "text": "very common for the CIA to use"}, {"end": "01:51:50", "start": "01:51:46", "text": "journalists as assets. More common than"}, {"end": "01:51:52", "start": "01:51:48", "text": "people think. People talk to"}, {"end": "01:51:54", "start": "01:51:50", "text": "journalists, so they're useful at"}, {"end": "01:51:55", "start": "01:51:52", "text": "collecting intel. And people listen to"}, {"end": "01:51:57", "start": "01:51:54", "text": "journalists, so they're great at"}, {"end": "01:52:00", "start": "01:51:55", "text": "spreading disinformation. You may have"}, {"end": "01:52:02", "start": "01:51:57", "text": "heard about Operation Mockingbird. This"}, {"end": "01:52:04", "start": "01:52:00", "text": "was a project where over 400 American"}, {"end": "01:52:07", "start": "01:52:02", "text": "journalists were working as direct"}, {"end": "01:52:10", "start": "01:52:04", "text": "assets for the CIA. Carl Bernstein"}, {"end": "01:52:13", "start": "01:52:07", "text": "exposed how at least 10 journalists and"}, {"end": "01:52:16", "start": "01:52:10", "text": "editors at the New York Times were CIA"}, {"end": "01:52:18", "start": "01:52:13", "text": "operatives for years. And this is still"}, {"end": "01:52:19", "start": "01:52:16", "text": "happening right now, and I can prove it."}, {"end": "01:52:21", "start": "01:52:18", "text": "But covering that and Operation"}, {"end": "01:52:23", "start": "01:52:19", "text": "Mockingbird is a full episode. And if"}, {"end": "01:52:24", "start": "01:52:21", "text": "you'd like to hear the whole story, let"}, {"end": "01:52:26", "start": "01:52:23", "text": "me know in the comments. Now, whatever"}, {"end": "01:52:29", "start": "01:52:24", "text": "your favorite newspaper is or your"}, {"end": "01:52:31", "start": "01:52:26", "text": "favorite news channel is, assume 10% of"}, {"end": "01:52:33", "start": "01:52:29", "text": "editors, reporters, and media"}, {"end": "01:52:36", "start": "01:52:31", "text": "personalities are working for the CIA or"}, {"end": "01:52:37", "start": "01:52:33", "text": "FBI in some capacity. Yes, it's that"}, {"end": "01:52:39", "start": "01:52:36", "text": "many."}, {"end": "01:52:41", "start": "01:52:37", "text": ">> Well, JFK warned us this would happen."}, {"end": "01:52:43", "start": "01:52:39", "text": ">> He certainly did. Colin Andrews"}, {"end": "01:52:45", "start": "01:52:41", "text": "remembers a direct approach from a CIA"}, {"end": "01:52:47", "start": "01:52:43", "text": "operative. He met a man who claimed to"}, {"end": "01:52:48", "start": "01:52:45", "text": "have seen a crop circle being formed"}, {"end": "01:52:49", "start": "01:52:47", "text": "while he was out one night studying"}, {"end": "01:52:50", "start": "01:52:48", "text": "foxes."}, {"end": "01:52:52", "start": "01:52:49", "text": ">> Oh, sexy broads."}, {"end": "01:52:54", "start": "01:52:50", "text": ">> No, actual foxes."}, {"end": "01:52:56", "start": "01:52:52", "text": ">> The man used this story as a way of"}, {"end": "01:52:58", "start": "01:52:54", "text": "being accepted in the crop circle scene."}, {"end": "01:53:00", "start": "01:52:56", "text": "People got used to seeing him around."}, {"end": "01:53:02", "start": "01:52:58", "text": "Well, a few weeks later, this man knocks"}, {"end": "01:53:04", "start": "01:53:00", "text": "on Colin's door. They go for a walk and"}, {"end": "01:53:06", "start": "01:53:02", "text": "the man asked Colin tons of questions"}, {"end": "01:53:08", "start": "01:53:04", "text": "about crop circles, their locations,"}, {"end": "01:53:10", "start": "01:53:06", "text": "what he thinks they are, and on and on."}, {"end": "01:53:12", "start": "01:53:08", "text": "But Colin started to get annoyed when"}, {"end": "01:53:14", "start": "01:53:10", "text": "the man was asking if he knew if the"}, {"end": "01:53:16", "start": "01:53:12", "text": "Russians were involved. At the end of"}, {"end": "01:53:17", "start": "01:53:14", "text": "their talk, the man tells Colin, \"You're"}, {"end": "01:53:19", "start": "01:53:16", "text": "one of us now.\""}, {"end": "01:53:21", "start": "01:53:17", "text": ">> I said, \"What do you mean?\" And he said,"}, {"end": "01:53:24", "start": "01:53:19", "text": "\"This sounds even funny coming out of my"}, {"end": "01:53:26", "start": "01:53:21", "text": "mouth, but he said CIA.\""}, {"end": "01:53:28", "start": "01:53:24", "text": ">> The man told Colin that there was a"}, {"end": "01:53:30", "start": "01:53:26", "text": "large amount of money waiting for him in"}, {"end": "01:53:32", "start": "01:53:28", "text": "a Swiss bank account. All he had to do"}, {"end": "01:53:33", "start": "01:53:30", "text": "was state publicly that crop circles"}, {"end": "01:53:35", "start": "01:53:32", "text": "were a hoax. Colin could go on"}, {"end": "01:53:37", "start": "01:53:33", "text": "researching circles all he wanted. The"}, {"end": "01:53:39", "start": "01:53:35", "text": "CIA would help him become the number one"}, {"end": "01:53:41", "start": "01:53:37", "text": "crop circle expert in the world. They"}, {"end": "01:53:42", "start": "01:53:39", "text": "would give him special equipment. They"}, {"end": "01:53:44", "start": "01:53:41", "text": "would give him a staff. They would give"}, {"end": "01:53:47", "start": "01:53:42", "text": "him a budget. But when he came across a"}, {"end": "01:53:49", "start": "01:53:44", "text": "real crop formation, he was to call this"}, {"end": "01:53:51", "start": "01:53:47", "text": "man and nobody else. Colin Andrews"}, {"end": "01:53:53", "start": "01:53:49", "text": "passed on this offer. But the man"}, {"end": "01:53:55", "start": "01:53:51", "text": "harassed him with phone calls for a"}, {"end": "01:53:57", "start": "01:53:53", "text": "while after that. Soon the calls became"}, {"end": "01:53:59", "start": "01:53:55", "text": "so threatening that Colin contacted the"}, {"end": "01:54:01", "start": "01:53:57", "text": "British Ministry of Defense, but they"}, {"end": "01:54:01", "start": "01:53:59", "text": "said there was nothing they could do."}, {"end": "01:54:03", "start": "01:54:01", "text": ">> What? What?"}, {"end": "01:54:05", "start": "01:54:01", "text": ">> Well, they said it was out of their"}, {"end": "01:54:06", "start": "01:54:03", "text": "jurisdiction. Oh, was he in England?"}, {"end": "01:54:08", "start": "01:54:05", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"end": "01:54:10", "start": "01:54:06", "text": ">> That is a bunch of"}, {"end": "01:54:11", "start": "01:54:08", "text": ">> Yeah, Colin was annoyed, but after a"}, {"end": "01:54:13", "start": "01:54:10", "text": "short time, the call stopped."}, {"end": "01:54:16", "start": "01:54:11", "text": "Eventually, Colin Andrews moved to the"}, {"end": "01:54:18", "start": "01:54:13", "text": "US. And here, he was approached by a"}, {"end": "01:54:20", "start": "01:54:16", "text": "Pentagon analyst who introduced him to a"}, {"end": "01:54:21", "start": "01:54:18", "text": "writer named Rosemary Ellen Guy. You"}, {"end": "01:54:23", "start": "01:54:20", "text": "might know her name from her many"}, {"end": "01:54:26", "start": "01:54:21", "text": "appearances on the Coast to Coast Radio"}, {"end": "01:54:28", "start": "01:54:23", "text": "Show. She wrote 49 books and even hosted"}, {"end": "01:54:30", "start": "01:54:26", "text": "her own radio show, All About the"}, {"end": "01:54:33", "start": "01:54:28", "text": "Paranormal. Collins said Rosemary went"}, {"end": "01:54:35", "start": "01:54:30", "text": "to, in his words, every extreme to try"}, {"end": "01:54:37", "start": "01:54:33", "text": "and convince him to co-author a book"}, {"end": "01:54:39", "start": "01:54:35", "text": "with her. And she wanted to work on the"}, {"end": "01:54:41", "start": "01:54:37", "text": "book in his office, which would give her"}, {"end": "01:54:44", "start": "01:54:39", "text": "access to Colin Andrews entire database"}, {"end": "01:54:47", "start": "01:54:41", "text": "on crop circles going back 30 years. She"}, {"end": "01:54:49", "start": "01:54:44", "text": "was persistent, but he turned her down."}, {"end": "01:54:52", "start": "01:54:47", "text": "Colin is convinced without a doubt that"}, {"end": "01:54:54", "start": "01:54:49", "text": "Rosemary Guy was a CIA asset. Again,"}, {"end": "01:54:56", "start": "01:54:52", "text": "Rosemary Guy was the perfect candidate"}, {"end": "01:54:58", "start": "01:54:54", "text": "for an intelligence asset, especially"}, {"end": "01:55:00", "start": "01:54:56", "text": "since she was a regular guest on Coast"}, {"end": "01:55:02", "start": "01:54:58", "text": "to Coast, where she would be heard by"}, {"end": "01:55:03", "start": "01:55:00", "text": "millions of people. She would be allowed"}, {"end": "01:55:05", "start": "01:55:02", "text": "to continue her work in any way she"}, {"end": "01:55:08", "start": "01:55:03", "text": "wanted, but from time to time, she would"}, {"end": "01:55:10", "start": "01:55:05", "text": "be instructed to disseminate information"}, {"end": "01:55:12", "start": "01:55:08", "text": "provided by the intelligence community."}, {"end": "01:55:14", "start": "01:55:10", "text": "It's more common than you think. So,"}, {"end": "01:55:14", "start": "01:55:12", "text": "yeah, Rosemary Guy was the perfect"}, {"end": "01:55:17", "start": "01:55:14", "text": "asset."}, {"end": "01:55:18", "start": "01:55:14", "text": ">> Uh, I can't help but notice you're uh"}, {"end": "01:55:19", "start": "01:55:17", "text": "you're speaking about her in the past"}, {"end": "01:55:21", "start": "01:55:18", "text": "tense."}, {"end": "01:55:23", "start": "01:55:19", "text": ">> Yeah, she died in 2019 at the age of 69."}, {"end": "01:55:24", "start": "01:55:21", "text": "Man, it's it's kind of young to die,"}, {"end": "01:55:26", "start": "01:55:23", "text": "isn't it?"}, {"end": "01:55:29", "start": "01:55:24", "text": ">> Isn't it? There's another crop circles"}, {"end": "01:55:30", "start": "01:55:26", "text": "character with an interesting story."}, {"end": "01:55:32", "start": "01:55:29", "text": "John Lunberg is an English artist and"}, {"end": "01:55:35", "start": "01:55:30", "text": "documentary filmmaker who founded the"}, {"end": "01:55:37", "start": "01:55:32", "text": "website circlemakers.org in the early"}, {"end": "01:55:39", "start": "01:55:35", "text": "'90s. He's responsible or claims to be"}, {"end": "01:55:40", "start": "01:55:37", "text": "responsible for some of the more"}, {"end": "01:55:42", "start": "01:55:39", "text": "elaborate crop formations that have been"}, {"end": "01:55:43", "start": "01:55:40", "text": "found over the years. On the"}, {"end": "01:55:46", "start": "01:55:42", "text": "Circlemakers website, which is still"}, {"end": "01:55:47", "start": "01:55:43", "text": "around, there are links to the many crop"}, {"end": "01:55:49", "start": "01:55:46", "text": "formations that the group takes credit"}, {"end": "01:55:51", "start": "01:55:47", "text": "for. There's no doubt that the circle"}, {"end": "01:55:54", "start": "01:55:49", "text": "makers created complicated and often"}, {"end": "01:55:56", "start": "01:55:51", "text": "very beautiful crop formations, but crop"}, {"end": "01:55:58", "start": "01:55:54", "text": "circle researchers Robert Hulse and"}, {"end": "01:56:00", "start": "01:55:56", "text": "David A. Kaitton think there's more to"}, {"end": "01:56:03", "start": "01:55:58", "text": "John than meets the eye."}, {"end": "01:56:08", "start": "01:56:00", "text": ">> But in our opinion, the the whole circle"}, {"end": "01:56:11", "start": "01:56:03", "text": "makers website and Lumbberg and Co are"}, {"end": "01:56:15", "start": "01:56:08", "text": "all part of a disinformation"}, {"end": "01:56:17", "start": "01:56:11", "text": "campaign possibly funded by government."}, {"end": "01:56:19", "start": "01:56:15", "text": "Robert Hul said at one time the"}, {"end": "01:56:20", "start": "01:56:17", "text": "Circlemakers website had a recruiting"}, {"end": "01:56:23", "start": "01:56:19", "text": "link that took you directly to the"}, {"end": "01:56:25", "start": "01:56:20", "text": "recruitment page for MI5, British"}, {"end": "01:56:28", "start": "01:56:23", "text": "Military Intelligence. Hulse believes"}, {"end": "01:56:29", "start": "01:56:25", "text": "that the Circlemakers group is funded by"}, {"end": "01:56:31", "start": "01:56:28", "text": "British intelligence and was"}, {"end": "01:56:33", "start": "01:56:29", "text": "specifically created to spread"}, {"end": "01:56:35", "start": "01:56:31", "text": "disinformation. Hulse believes the"}, {"end": "01:56:38", "start": "01:56:33", "text": "Circlemakaker's goal is to muddy the"}, {"end": "01:56:40", "start": "01:56:35", "text": "waters and confuse serious crop circle"}, {"end": "01:56:42", "start": "01:56:38", "text": "researchers to make it as difficult as"}, {"end": "01:56:44", "start": "01:56:40", "text": "possible to determine what was and"}, {"end": "01:56:46", "start": "01:56:42", "text": "wasn't a genuine crop formation. Now,"}, {"end": "01:56:48", "start": "01:56:44", "text": "there's no hard evidence that the"}, {"end": "01:56:50", "start": "01:56:46", "text": "circlemakers or its founder are"}, {"end": "01:56:53", "start": "01:56:48", "text": "connected to military intelligence, but"}, {"end": "01:56:55", "start": "01:56:50", "text": "in 2009, researcher Richard D. Hall dug"}, {"end": "01:56:57", "start": "01:56:53", "text": "into Lunberg's background and found a"}, {"end": "01:56:59", "start": "01:56:55", "text": "lot of interesting information. Lunberg"}, {"end": "01:57:02", "start": "01:56:57", "text": "got his masters from the Slade School of"}, {"end": "01:57:04", "start": "01:56:59", "text": "Fine Art in London in 1992. At this"}, {"end": "01:57:07", "start": "01:57:02", "text": "time, Slade was next door to the then"}, {"end": "01:57:09", "start": "01:57:04", "text": "secret headquarters of MI5 at 140 Gower"}, {"end": "01:57:12", "start": "01:57:07", "text": "Street. It was literally next door. The"}, {"end": "01:57:13", "start": "01:57:09", "text": "two buildings shared a courtyard. Paul"}, {"end": "01:57:16", "start": "01:57:12", "text": "makes the point that intelligence"}, {"end": "01:57:18", "start": "01:57:13", "text": "agencies often recruit finalyear college"}, {"end": "01:57:20", "start": "01:57:16", "text": "students. That's always been true and is"}, {"end": "01:57:22", "start": "01:57:18", "text": "still true today. Lunberg started making"}, {"end": "01:57:24", "start": "01:57:20", "text": "crop circles immediately after"}, {"end": "01:57:27", "start": "01:57:22", "text": "graduating. Paul notes that if you view"}, {"end": "01:57:30", "start": "01:57:24", "text": "the HTML source of circlemakers.org,"}, {"end": "01:57:33", "start": "01:57:27", "text": "the second keyword is MI5. Now, that was"}, {"end": "01:57:35", "start": "01:57:30", "text": "in 2009, but even today, the site's"}, {"end": "01:57:38", "start": "01:57:33", "text": "keywords contain entries like MI5 and"}, {"end": "01:57:40", "start": "01:57:35", "text": "CIA. And something I just noticed while"}, {"end": "01:57:43", "start": "01:57:38", "text": "researching this episode. Why is alleged"}, {"end": "01:57:46", "start": "01:57:40", "text": "CIA asset Jim Schnable a keyword on this"}, {"end": "01:57:48", "start": "01:57:43", "text": "site? In 2004, the Circlemakers website"}, {"end": "01:57:50", "start": "01:57:46", "text": "teased Colin Andrews, who at the time"}, {"end": "01:57:52", "start": "01:57:48", "text": "was raising money for his research."}, {"end": "01:57:55", "start": "01:57:50", "text": "Circlemaker said that if the fundraising"}, {"end": "01:57:57", "start": "01:57:52", "text": "fails, Colin could just join MI5 SCOPS"}, {"end": "01:58:00", "start": "01:57:55", "text": "and retrain to be a crop circles maker."}, {"end": "01:58:02", "start": "01:57:57", "text": "Now, SCOPS is short for psychological"}, {"end": "01:58:05", "start": "01:58:00", "text": "operations, which is the use of"}, {"end": "01:58:07", "start": "01:58:02", "text": "psychological techniques and tactics to"}, {"end": "01:58:09", "start": "01:58:05", "text": "influence the perceptions, attitudes,"}, {"end": "01:58:10", "start": "01:58:07", "text": "and behaviors of a group of people. And"}, {"end": "01:58:12", "start": "01:58:09", "text": "this is a type of strategic"}, {"end": "01:58:13", "start": "01:58:10", "text": "communication used by military"}, {"end": "01:58:15", "start": "01:58:12", "text": "intelligence and government"}, {"end": "01:58:17", "start": "01:58:13", "text": "organizations all the time."}, {"end": "01:58:19", "start": "01:58:15", "text": ">> It sure is. Just turn on the news."}, {"end": "01:58:21", "start": "01:58:17", "text": ">> Well, that's true. If you spent an hour"}, {"end": "01:58:24", "start": "01:58:19", "text": "reading the news today, you consumed"}, {"end": "01:58:26", "start": "01:58:21", "text": "government intel. Believe me. Now, Hall"}, {"end": "01:58:29", "start": "01:58:24", "text": "acknowledges that these references to"}, {"end": "01:58:31", "start": "01:58:26", "text": "MI5 seem just too blatant, but he"}, {"end": "01:58:32", "start": "01:58:29", "text": "believes they're a double bluff."}, {"end": "01:58:34", "start": "01:58:31", "text": "Meaning, if we sarcastically connect"}, {"end": "01:58:36", "start": "01:58:32", "text": "ourselves to the intelligence community,"}, {"end": "01:58:38", "start": "01:58:34", "text": "people will think we're joking. Nobody"}, {"end": "01:58:41", "start": "01:58:36", "text": "would be so obvious. But this is"}, {"end": "01:58:43", "start": "01:58:38", "text": "absolutely a real and effective scop"}, {"end": "01:58:45", "start": "01:58:41", "text": "technique. Hall found that the website"}, {"end": "01:58:47", "start": "01:58:43", "text": "was hosted in Pittsburgh. Now, at the"}, {"end": "01:58:49", "start": "01:58:45", "text": "time, and even today, to some degree,"}, {"end": "01:58:52", "start": "01:58:47", "text": "it's uncommon for British organizations"}, {"end": "01:58:53", "start": "01:58:49", "text": "to host their sites in the US. and Hall"}, {"end": "01:58:56", "start": "01:58:52", "text": "found that the administrative contact"}, {"end": "01:58:58", "start": "01:58:53", "text": "for the domain belongs to a colonel in"}, {"end": "01:59:00", "start": "01:58:56", "text": "the US Air Force. Now, it could be a"}, {"end": "01:59:01", "start": "01:58:58", "text": "coincidence, but the man has an unusual"}, {"end": "01:59:03", "start": "01:59:00", "text": "name. Now, I'm not going to name him"}, {"end": "01:59:05", "start": "01:59:01", "text": "here, but I'll link to Hall's research"}, {"end": "01:59:07", "start": "01:59:03", "text": "down below. Richard Hall looked into"}, {"end": "01:59:09", "start": "01:59:05", "text": "Circlemakers finances, trying to figure"}, {"end": "01:59:11", "start": "01:59:07", "text": "out how they pay their bills. Lunberg"}, {"end": "01:59:13", "start": "01:59:09", "text": "had registered a couple of companies,"}, {"end": "01:59:15", "start": "01:59:11", "text": "but they were inactive. But there was an"}, {"end": "01:59:16", "start": "01:59:13", "text": "interesting quote on the Circlemakers"}, {"end": "01:59:17", "start": "01:59:15", "text": "website."}, {"end": "01:59:20", "start": "01:59:16", "text": ">> You'd be surprised how expensive running"}, {"end": "01:59:22", "start": "01:59:17", "text": "a successful website can be. Don't"}, {"end": "01:59:24", "start": "01:59:20", "text": "panic. We're not going to ask you for"}, {"end": "01:59:26", "start": "01:59:22", "text": "money. Our retainer from sources we'd"}, {"end": "01:59:28", "start": "01:59:24", "text": "rather not disclose has kept our virtual"}, {"end": "01:59:30", "start": "01:59:26", "text": "head above water."}, {"end": "01:59:33", "start": "01:59:28", "text": ">> What does that mean? A retainer from"}, {"end": "01:59:35", "start": "01:59:30", "text": "who? Who's financing them? Making crop"}, {"end": "01:59:38", "start": "01:59:33", "text": "formations is technically a crime. It's"}, {"end": "01:59:40", "start": "01:59:35", "text": "trespassing, vandalism, destruction of"}, {"end": "01:59:42", "start": "01:59:38", "text": "private property. What investor would"}, {"end": "01:59:44", "start": "01:59:40", "text": "fund that and become complicit in those"}, {"end": "01:59:46", "start": "01:59:42", "text": "crimes? Plus, there could be civil"}, {"end": "01:59:48", "start": "01:59:44", "text": "liability. If you create a crop circle"}, {"end": "01:59:50", "start": "01:59:46", "text": "and a bunch of strangers show up and"}, {"end": "01:59:52", "start": "01:59:48", "text": "tear up my field, I could sue you for"}, {"end": "01:59:54", "start": "01:59:50", "text": "that. Even if they're minor crimes and"}, {"end": "01:59:56", "start": "01:59:52", "text": "rarely prosecuted, it doesn't sound like"}, {"end": "01:59:57", "start": "01:59:54", "text": "a good investment. Paul did a land"}, {"end": "02:00:00", "start": "01:59:56", "text": "registry check on the apartment where"}, {"end": "02:00:02", "start": "01:59:57", "text": "Lunberg was living at the time. He found"}, {"end": "02:00:04", "start": "02:00:00", "text": "that technically there are no apartments"}, {"end": "02:00:06", "start": "02:00:02", "text": "listed on the deed. Hall dug further and"}, {"end": "02:00:07", "start": "02:00:04", "text": "found that there are four apartments,"}, {"end": "02:00:10", "start": "02:00:06", "text": "including Lunbergs, that have their"}, {"end": "02:00:12", "start": "02:00:07", "text": "rents paid by the local government. So,"}, {"end": "02:00:15", "start": "02:00:10", "text": "did Richard Hall reveal that John"}, {"end": "02:00:16", "start": "02:00:12", "text": "Lunberg is in fact an asset working in"}, {"end": "02:00:19", "start": "02:00:15", "text": "media whose job is to spread"}, {"end": "02:00:21", "start": "02:00:16", "text": "disinformation about crop circles? Well,"}, {"end": "02:00:23", "start": "02:00:19", "text": "the evidence Hall provides is purely"}, {"end": "02:00:24", "start": "02:00:21", "text": "circumstantial and coincidental, so"}, {"end": "02:00:26", "start": "02:00:23", "text": "there's no way to know for sure. In"}, {"end": "02:00:28", "start": "02:00:24", "text": "fact, some of Hall's evidence is so"}, {"end": "02:00:30", "start": "02:00:26", "text": "far-fetched I left it out of this"}, {"end": "02:00:32", "start": "02:00:28", "text": "episode. But a few years after Richard"}, {"end": "02:00:34", "start": "02:00:30", "text": "Hall conducted his research, Lundberg"}, {"end": "02:00:36", "start": "02:00:32", "text": "directed a documentary. A documentary"}, {"end": "02:00:38", "start": "02:00:34", "text": "that I've referred to multiple times on"}, {"end": "02:00:40", "start": "02:00:36", "text": "this channel. It's called Mirage Men."}, {"end": "02:00:42", "start": "02:00:38", "text": "Miragemen covers Richard Dodie, a"}, {"end": "02:00:45", "start": "02:00:40", "text": "retired special agent who worked for"}, {"end": "02:00:47", "start": "02:00:42", "text": "OSI, the United States Air Force Office"}, {"end": "02:00:49", "start": "02:00:45", "text": "of Special Investigation, Air Force"}, {"end": "02:00:51", "start": "02:00:47", "text": "Intelligence. Richard Dodie is,"}, {"end": "02:00:53", "start": "02:00:49", "text": "according to Mirage Men, one of the"}, {"end": "02:00:56", "start": "02:00:51", "text": "chief architects of the military's"}, {"end": "02:00:58", "start": "02:00:53", "text": "campaign to disseminate lies to the UFO"}, {"end": "02:01:00", "start": "02:00:56", "text": "community. In other words, to spread"}, {"end": "02:01:03", "start": "02:00:58", "text": "disinformation. Dod's job was to muddy"}, {"end": "02:01:04", "start": "02:01:00", "text": "the waters so UFO researchers wouldn't"}, {"end": "02:01:07", "start": "02:01:03", "text": "know what sightings were real and what"}, {"end": "02:01:09", "start": "02:01:04", "text": "were hoaxes. Now, this is according to"}, {"end": "02:01:11", "start": "02:01:07", "text": "Hall, Hulse, Kaitton, and many others"}, {"end": "02:01:13", "start": "02:01:09", "text": "exactly what the circle makers have done"}, {"end": "02:01:16", "start": "02:01:11", "text": "and have been doing to the crop circles"}, {"end": "02:01:18", "start": "02:01:13", "text": "community for years. There's a reason"}, {"end": "02:01:20", "start": "02:01:16", "text": "why John Lunberg would make a great"}, {"end": "02:01:22", "start": "02:01:18", "text": "intelligence asset. And Rosemary Guy and"}, {"end": "02:01:24", "start": "02:01:20", "text": "James Schnabel and countless other"}, {"end": "02:01:26", "start": "02:01:22", "text": "writers, journalists, and media figures."}, {"end": "02:01:28", "start": "02:01:24", "text": "They already work in the paranormal"}, {"end": "02:01:30", "start": "02:01:26", "text": "community. They're trusted by that"}, {"end": "02:01:32", "start": "02:01:28", "text": "community. They continue to do their"}, {"end": "02:01:34", "start": "02:01:30", "text": "work, but every so often, they spread a"}, {"end": "02:01:35", "start": "02:01:32", "text": "little bit of disinformation to that"}, {"end": "02:01:37", "start": "02:01:34", "text": "community. a little nugget to steer"}, {"end": "02:01:40", "start": "02:01:35", "text": "people away from the truth. This is why"}, {"end": "02:01:41", "start": "02:01:37", "text": "you shouldn't trust anyone in the media."}, {"end": "02:01:44", "start": "02:01:40", "text": "Whether it's your favorite news anchor,"}, {"end": "02:01:46", "start": "02:01:41", "text": "TV show host, podcaster, blogger, or"}, {"end": "02:01:49", "start": "02:01:44", "text": "writer, be wary of anyone with"}, {"end": "02:01:51", "start": "02:01:46", "text": "influence. These media personalities may"}, {"end": "02:01:53", "start": "02:01:49", "text": "seem trustworthy. They may seem like"}, {"end": "02:01:55", "start": "02:01:51", "text": "they have your best interests in mind,"}, {"end": "02:01:57", "start": "02:01:53", "text": "but some of that is just a performance."}, {"end": "02:01:59", "start": "02:01:55", "text": "Not all of it, but some of it is a"}, {"end": "02:02:01", "start": "02:01:57", "text": "performance designed to sway your"}, {"end": "02:02:04", "start": "02:01:59", "text": "opinion or even alter your entire belief"}, {"end": "02:02:05", "start": "02:02:01", "text": "system. The intelligence community does"}, {"end": "02:02:08", "start": "02:02:04", "text": "not want you to know the truth about"}, {"end": "02:02:10", "start": "02:02:05", "text": "crop circles, UFOs, secret space"}, {"end": "02:02:13", "start": "02:02:08", "text": "programs, or alien technology. That's a"}, {"end": "02:02:15", "start": "02:02:10", "text": "fact. Millions, perhaps billions of"}, {"end": "02:02:17", "start": "02:02:13", "text": "dollars are put into black budget"}, {"end": "02:02:19", "start": "02:02:15", "text": "programs designed to distract and"}, {"end": "02:02:21", "start": "02:02:17", "text": "confuse you from the truth. When CIA"}, {"end": "02:02:23", "start": "02:02:19", "text": "needs to spread disinformation, they"}, {"end": "02:02:26", "start": "02:02:21", "text": "look for trustworthy people with large"}, {"end": "02:02:28", "start": "02:02:23", "text": "audiences to deliver their message. So"}, {"end": "02:02:30", "start": "02:02:26", "text": "keep your eye out for clues. An"}, {"end": "02:02:33", "start": "02:02:28", "text": "intelligence operative, an agent, an"}, {"end": "02:02:36", "start": "02:02:30", "text": "asset could be"}, {"end": "02:02:36", "start": "02:02:33", "text": "anyone."}, {"end": "02:02:45", "start": "02:02:38", "text": ">> 3 + 1 5 plus 0. With crop circles, the"}, {"end": "02:02:46", "start": "02:02:42", "text": "weird twist for me was the military"}, {"end": "02:02:49", "start": "02:02:45", "text": "involvement. I never heard of any of"}, {"end": "02:02:51", "start": "02:02:46", "text": "that. And then the strange guy following"}, {"end": "02:02:54", "start": "02:02:49", "text": "Colin Andrews around. That was kind of"}, {"end": "02:02:58", "start": "02:02:51", "text": "weird. What do we have next? Um, ah,"}, {"end": "02:03:00", "start": "02:02:54", "text": "episode 121. This is the UFO sighting at"}, {"end": "02:03:04", "start": "02:02:58", "text": "the aerial school in Zimbabwe. See you"}, {"end": "02:03:04", "start": "02:03:00", "text": "in a minute."}, {"end": "02:03:10", "start": "02:03:04", "text": "September 14th, 1994 was a quiet night"}, {"end": "02:03:12", "start": "02:03:07", "text": "in Zimbabwe. Then suddenly, what sounded"}, {"end": "02:03:14", "start": "02:03:10", "text": "like an explosion startled people all"}, {"end": "02:03:17", "start": "02:03:12", "text": "over the country. Windows rattled and"}, {"end": "02:03:18", "start": "02:03:14", "text": "doors shook. Shocked and confused,"}, {"end": "02:03:20", "start": "02:03:17", "text": "people nervously stepped out of their"}, {"end": "02:03:22", "start": "02:03:18", "text": "homes to see what happened. But"}, {"end": "02:03:24", "start": "02:03:20", "text": "everything looked fine. They went back"}, {"end": "02:03:27", "start": "02:03:22", "text": "inside to bed. But one woman wasn't"}, {"end": "02:03:29", "start": "02:03:24", "text": "satisfied. Cynthia Hind drove around the"}, {"end": "02:03:30", "start": "02:03:27", "text": "capital city of Harare looking for the"}, {"end": "02:03:33", "start": "02:03:29", "text": "source of the sound, but nothing seemed"}, {"end": "02:03:35", "start": "02:03:30", "text": "unusual. But back at home, Cynthia's"}, {"end": "02:03:37", "start": "02:03:33", "text": "phone rang relentlessly. She was a UFO"}, {"end": "02:03:39", "start": "02:03:35", "text": "investigator, and witness reports were"}, {"end": "02:03:41", "start": "02:03:37", "text": "coming in one after the other. The news"}, {"end": "02:03:44", "start": "02:03:39", "text": "claimed that the sound was a sonic boom"}, {"end": "02:03:46", "start": "02:03:41", "text": "caused by a meteor shower, but Cynthia"}, {"end": "02:03:48", "start": "02:03:44", "text": "wasn't so sure. Eyewitnesses near Lake"}, {"end": "02:03:51", "start": "02:03:46", "text": "Kuribba described bizarre lights in the"}, {"end": "02:03:54", "start": "02:03:48", "text": "sky earlier that week. lights in a row"}, {"end": "02:03:56", "start": "02:03:51", "text": "that moved erratically, fast, then slow."}, {"end": "02:03:59", "start": "02:03:54", "text": "First north to south, then east to"}, {"end": "02:04:01", "start": "02:03:56", "text": "southwest. Meteors don't do that."}, {"end": "02:04:03", "start": "02:03:59", "text": "Cynthia suspected there was much more to"}, {"end": "02:04:07", "start": "02:04:01", "text": "the story. And 2 days later, she'd find"}, {"end": "02:04:07", "start": "02:04:03", "text": "out she was right."}, {"end": "02:04:15", "start": "02:04:10", "text": "The town of Rua is located about 14 mi"}, {"end": "02:04:18", "start": "02:04:13", "text": "southeast of Zimbabwee's capital,"}, {"end": "02:04:20", "start": "02:04:15", "text": "Harare. Surrounded by farmland, Rua is a"}, {"end": "02:04:22", "start": "02:04:18", "text": "small agricultural community, but not"}, {"end": "02:04:24", "start": "02:04:20", "text": "poor. The more affluent families in the"}, {"end": "02:04:26", "start": "02:04:22", "text": "area sent their children to Aerial"}, {"end": "02:04:28", "start": "02:04:24", "text": "School, a private academy for grades 1"}, {"end": "02:04:29", "start": "02:04:26", "text": "through 7 or ages 6 through 12."}, {"end": "02:04:31", "start": "02:04:28", "text": ">> Oh, wait a minute. They named the school"}, {"end": "02:04:32", "start": "02:04:29", "text": "after that redhead chick with the purple"}, {"end": "02:04:33", "start": "02:04:31", "text": "pasties?"}, {"end": "02:04:35", "start": "02:04:32", "text": ">> No, the Archangel Ariel."}, {"end": "02:04:38", "start": "02:04:33", "text": ">> Uh, did she wear purple pasties?"}, {"end": "02:04:42", "start": "02:04:35", "text": ">> He Oh, I'm sorry. Did I use the wrong"}, {"end": "02:04:44", "start": "02:04:38", "text": "pronouns? 2023 is so annoying."}, {"end": "02:04:46", "start": "02:04:42", "text": "September 16th was a quiet sunny day at"}, {"end": "02:04:48", "start": "02:04:44", "text": "Ariel School and the students were at"}, {"end": "02:04:50", "start": "02:04:46", "text": "morning recess. Some kids were kicking"}, {"end": "02:04:52", "start": "02:04:48", "text": "soccer balls, others were playing tag or"}, {"end": "02:04:54", "start": "02:04:50", "text": "hanging out under the trees. The"}, {"end": "02:04:56", "start": "02:04:52", "text": "teachers were in a meeting, so the kids"}, {"end": "02:04:58", "start": "02:04:54", "text": "had the yard to themselves. A few"}, {"end": "02:05:00", "start": "02:04:56", "text": "minutes after 10:00, the children"}, {"end": "02:05:01", "start": "02:04:58", "text": "noticed a strange buzzing noise. At"}, {"end": "02:05:03", "start": "02:05:00", "text": "first, it seemed to come from"}, {"end": "02:05:06", "start": "02:05:01", "text": "everywhere. It sounded like a swarm of"}, {"end": "02:05:07", "start": "02:05:03", "text": "bees or faulty electrical lines. The"}, {"end": "02:05:09", "start": "02:05:06", "text": "children were nervous, but then the"}, {"end": "02:05:12", "start": "02:05:07", "text": "sound stopped. But a few minutes later,"}, {"end": "02:05:14", "start": "02:05:09", "text": "the sound was back and much louder than"}, {"end": "02:05:16", "start": "02:05:12", "text": "before. The kids looked around for the"}, {"end": "02:05:19", "start": "02:05:14", "text": "source, and there hovering above the"}, {"end": "02:05:21", "start": "02:05:16", "text": "trees was an object. Witness accounts"}, {"end": "02:05:24", "start": "02:05:19", "text": "vary, but some saw a bright streak."}, {"end": "02:05:26", "start": "02:05:21", "text": "Others saw a glowing disc, but all"}, {"end": "02:05:28", "start": "02:05:24", "text": "agreed a mysterious object with flashing"}, {"end": "02:05:30", "start": "02:05:26", "text": "lights was descending beyond the"}, {"end": "02:05:32", "start": "02:05:28", "text": "treeine. Naturally, the children drifted"}, {"end": "02:05:34", "start": "02:05:30", "text": "toward the woods for a closer look."}, {"end": "02:05:37", "start": "02:05:32", "text": "Through the brush, they saw a metallic"}, {"end": "02:05:39", "start": "02:05:34", "text": "saucer-shaped craft slowly land in a"}, {"end": "02:05:41", "start": "02:05:37", "text": "rocky field just beyond their play area."}, {"end": "02:05:42", "start": "02:05:39", "text": "Then the buzzing stopped. Other children"}, {"end": "02:05:45", "start": "02:05:41", "text": "in the yard became aware of the"}, {"end": "02:05:47", "start": "02:05:42", "text": "commotion, hearing shouts of, \"I see it,"}, {"end": "02:05:49", "start": "02:05:45", "text": "and there it is.\" Subconsciously, the"}, {"end": "02:05:51", "start": "02:05:47", "text": "children gathered together, pulling"}, {"end": "02:05:53", "start": "02:05:49", "text": "their bravery, and walked slowly toward"}, {"end": "02:05:56", "start": "02:05:51", "text": "the object. Then they stopped, frozen"}, {"end": "02:05:59", "start": "02:05:53", "text": "with fear. Two figures were standing"}, {"end": "02:06:02", "start": "02:05:56", "text": "outside the craft. And those figures"}, {"end": "02:06:02", "start": "02:05:59", "text": "weren't human."}, {"end": "02:06:09", "start": "02:06:03", "text": "Hundreds of people today phoned the ZBC"}, {"end": "02:06:12", "start": "02:06:06", "text": "and BBC correspondent in Harare saying"}, {"end": "02:06:14", "start": "02:06:09", "text": "they cited an unidentifying"}, {"end": "02:06:16", "start": "02:06:12", "text": "flying object last night. We have some"}, {"end": "02:06:18", "start": "02:06:14", "text": "eyewitness reports."}, {"end": "02:06:20", "start": "02:06:16", "text": ">> It was a bright radiant light. I've"}, {"end": "02:06:21", "start": "02:06:18", "text": "never seen anything like it in my life."}, {"end": "02:06:24", "start": "02:06:20", "text": ">> It was a It was the absence of noise I"}, {"end": "02:06:26", "start": "02:06:21", "text": "didn't like."}, {"end": "02:06:29", "start": "02:06:24", "text": ">> The craft sat silently in the brush"}, {"end": "02:06:31", "start": "02:06:26", "text": "beyond the fence line. Two beings about"}, {"end": "02:06:33", "start": "02:06:29", "text": "four feet tall emerged from the silver"}, {"end": "02:06:35", "start": "02:06:31", "text": "object. They were dressed in dark,"}, {"end": "02:06:37", "start": "02:06:33", "text": "tight-fitting suits. They had large"}, {"end": "02:06:39", "start": "02:06:35", "text": "heads with no ears and very small noses"}, {"end": "02:06:41", "start": "02:06:37", "text": "and mouths. Their eyes were big, almond"}, {"end": "02:06:43", "start": "02:06:39", "text": "shaped, and completely black. The"}, {"end": "02:06:44", "start": "02:06:41", "text": "creatures were walking back and forth"}, {"end": "02:06:45", "start": "02:06:43", "text": "around their ship as if looking for"}, {"end": "02:06:46", "start": "02:06:44", "text": "damage."}, {"end": "02:06:48", "start": "02:06:45", "text": ">> Alien pit crew. Nice."}, {"end": "02:06:50", "start": "02:06:46", "text": ">> Well, they didn't seem to notice or care"}, {"end": "02:06:52", "start": "02:06:48", "text": "much about the children until some of"}, {"end": "02:06:54", "start": "02:06:50", "text": "the younger students started screaming."}, {"end": "02:06:56", "start": "02:06:52", "text": "Then the creature stopped, turned, and"}, {"end": "02:06:58", "start": "02:06:54", "text": "looked right at the group of kids"}, {"end": "02:07:00", "start": "02:06:56", "text": "waiting by the fence. The younger"}, {"end": "02:07:02", "start": "02:06:58", "text": "children ran screaming back toward the"}, {"end": "02:07:05", "start": "02:07:00", "text": "school, but the older students stood"}, {"end": "02:07:06", "start": "02:07:02", "text": "there watching, staring. Zama, a fifth"}, {"end": "02:07:08", "start": "02:07:05", "text": "grader, wanted to run and protect her"}, {"end": "02:07:10", "start": "02:07:06", "text": "younger siblings, but she couldn't move."}, {"end": "02:07:12", "start": "02:07:08", "text": "She was doing everything in her power to"}, {"end": "02:07:14", "start": "02:07:10", "text": "escape, but something about the big"}, {"end": "02:07:14", "start": "02:07:12", "text": "black eyes of the visitors kept her in"}, {"end": "02:07:18", "start": "02:07:14", "text": "place."}, {"end": "02:07:21", "start": "02:07:14", "text": ">> Big head and big black eyes, and was"}, {"end": "02:07:23", "start": "02:07:18", "text": "dressed in a black bodysuit."}, {"end": "02:07:26", "start": "02:07:21", "text": "Then completely against her will, she"}, {"end": "02:07:28", "start": "02:07:23", "text": "felt herself take a step forward. At the"}, {"end": "02:07:31", "start": "02:07:26", "text": "same time, one of the beings took a step"}, {"end": "02:07:33", "start": "02:07:28", "text": "toward her. She felt like this being was"}, {"end": "02:07:34", "start": "02:07:31", "text": "probing her mind looking for something."}, {"end": "02:07:35", "start": "02:07:33", "text": ">> Mind control?"}, {"end": "02:07:37", "start": "02:07:34", "text": ">> Something like that. Yeah."}, {"end": "02:07:39", "start": "02:07:35", "text": ">> Oh, that's why I wear this hat. It"}, {"end": "02:07:42", "start": "02:07:37", "text": "protects me from government spying and"}, {"end": "02:07:44", "start": "02:07:39", "text": "alien mind control. It also happens to"}, {"end": "02:07:46", "start": "02:07:42", "text": "be tra."}, {"end": "02:07:48", "start": "02:07:44", "text": "Google it."}, {"end": "02:07:51", "start": "02:07:46", "text": ">> 12-year-old Lisel was frozen in place."}, {"end": "02:07:53", "start": "02:07:48", "text": "She felt the space and time around her"}, {"end": "02:07:55", "start": "02:07:51", "text": "distort as ringing in her ears grew"}, {"end": "02:07:58", "start": "02:07:53", "text": "louder and louder. Then, like frames of"}, {"end": "02:08:00", "start": "02:07:55", "text": "a movie, images flash through her mind."}, {"end": "02:08:02", "start": "02:07:58", "text": "Images of some kind of catastrophe on"}, {"end": "02:08:04", "start": "02:08:00", "text": "Earth. She saw people screaming and"}, {"end": "02:08:07", "start": "02:08:02", "text": "cities burning. Then, an image of"}, {"end": "02:08:09", "start": "02:08:04", "text": "millions of trees burnt to cinders and"}, {"end": "02:08:11", "start": "02:08:07", "text": "of the oceans boiling. Emma was standing"}, {"end": "02:08:14", "start": "02:08:09", "text": "next to Lisel, watching in silence."}, {"end": "02:08:16", "start": "02:08:11", "text": "Instinctively, she grabbed Lisel's hand."}, {"end": "02:08:18", "start": "02:08:14", "text": "At that moment, images crashed into her"}, {"end": "02:08:21", "start": "02:08:16", "text": "mind. She saw technology. She didn't"}, {"end": "02:08:24", "start": "02:08:18", "text": "understand, but she knew it was bad. She"}, {"end": "02:08:26", "start": "02:08:21", "text": "saw smoke, bodies lying in streets. She"}, {"end": "02:08:29", "start": "02:08:24", "text": "was terrified. She willed her legs to"}, {"end": "02:08:31", "start": "02:08:26", "text": "move, to run away, but she couldn't. She"}, {"end": "02:08:33", "start": "02:08:29", "text": "didn't feel stuck, but felt like she was"}, {"end": "02:08:35", "start": "02:08:31", "text": "floating, like her feet weren't touching"}, {"end": "02:08:37", "start": "02:08:33", "text": "the ground. There was no way to run."}, {"end": "02:08:39", "start": "02:08:35", "text": "Emily, a fifth grader, felt like all the"}, {"end": "02:08:41", "start": "02:08:37", "text": "air around her was gone. She had to"}, {"end": "02:08:43", "start": "02:08:39", "text": "remind herself to breathe. She thought"}, {"end": "02:08:45", "start": "02:08:41", "text": "she might pass out. She was aware of the"}, {"end": "02:08:48", "start": "02:08:43", "text": "other children next to her, but they"}, {"end": "02:08:50", "start": "02:08:45", "text": "seemed so far away. The only sound she"}, {"end": "02:08:51", "start": "02:08:48", "text": "could hear was the blood pumping in her"}, {"end": "02:08:53", "start": "02:08:50", "text": "ears. She knew she needed to run, but"}, {"end": "02:08:56", "start": "02:08:51", "text": "there was something about those big"}, {"end": "02:08:58", "start": "02:08:53", "text": "black eyes. She couldn't look away. Sama"}, {"end": "02:09:01", "start": "02:08:56", "text": "took another step forward. Then she"}, {"end": "02:09:03", "start": "02:08:58", "text": "heard a message in her mind. No words,"}, {"end": "02:09:05", "start": "02:09:01", "text": "but she still understood. The being"}, {"end": "02:09:08", "start": "02:09:03", "text": "wanted her to come closer, so she took"}, {"end": "02:09:10", "start": "02:09:05", "text": "another step. At that moment, she sensed"}, {"end": "02:09:12", "start": "02:09:08", "text": "the beings wanted her to go with them."}, {"end": "02:09:15", "start": "02:09:10", "text": "Now, though it seemed only like a minute"}, {"end": "02:09:17", "start": "02:09:12", "text": "or two, 15 minutes had passed. Suddenly,"}, {"end": "02:09:19", "start": "02:09:15", "text": "the school bell rang, indicating recess"}, {"end": "02:09:20", "start": "02:09:17", "text": "was over. The creatures glanced at the"}, {"end": "02:09:23", "start": "02:09:19", "text": "school and the children snapped out of"}, {"end": "02:09:25", "start": "02:09:20", "text": "their trance. Then, reality came"}, {"end": "02:09:27", "start": "02:09:23", "text": "crashing in and the children panicked."}, {"end": "02:09:29", "start": "02:09:25", "text": "They ran screaming back to the school."}, {"end": "02:09:31", "start": "02:09:27", "text": "They burst into the hallway yelling"}, {"end": "02:09:32", "start": "02:09:29", "text": "their story to anyone who would listen."}, {"end": "02:09:34", "start": "02:09:31", "text": "The teachers came out of their meeting"}, {"end": "02:09:36", "start": "02:09:32", "text": "and it was chaos. When the children"}, {"end": "02:09:38", "start": "02:09:34", "text": "finally calmed down, they explained what"}, {"end": "02:09:42", "start": "02:09:36", "text": "happened. The teachers ran out to the"}, {"end": "02:09:42", "start": "02:09:38", "text": "yard, but they were too late."}, {"end": "02:09:47", "start": "02:09:43", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "02:09:53", "start": "02:09:48", "text": "Around 10:00 a.m. on September 16th"}, {"end": "02:09:55", "start": "02:09:50", "text": "during recess, 62 students from aerial"}, {"end": "02:09:57", "start": "02:09:53", "text": "school saw one or more shiny silver"}, {"end": "02:09:59", "start": "02:09:55", "text": "craft descend into a brushy field near"}, {"end": "02:10:01", "start": "02:09:57", "text": "the playground."}, {"end": "02:10:02", "start": "02:09:59", "text": ">> Sitting on the spaceship."}, {"end": "02:10:04", "start": "02:10:01", "text": ">> How do you know it was a spaceship?"}, {"end": "02:10:04", "start": "02:10:02", "text": "Wasn't it a helicopter or something like"}, {"end": "02:10:06", "start": "02:10:04", "text": "that?"}, {"end": "02:10:08", "start": "02:10:04", "text": ">> Well, it looked like it was like like a"}, {"end": "02:10:11", "start": "02:10:06", "text": "disc, like a round."}, {"end": "02:10:15", "start": "02:10:08", "text": ">> And whereabouts was it? in the in the"}, {"end": "02:10:18", "start": "02:10:11", "text": "trees over there between the third pole."}, {"end": "02:10:19", "start": "02:10:15", "text": ">> And did you girls see that as well?"}, {"end": "02:10:21", "start": "02:10:18", "text": ">> Several students said the craft was"}, {"end": "02:10:23", "start": "02:10:19", "text": "surrounded by smaller objects zipping"}, {"end": "02:10:25", "start": "02:10:21", "text": "around the sky. These objects had"}, {"end": "02:10:27", "start": "02:10:23", "text": "flashing colored lights. They were"}, {"end": "02:10:29", "start": "02:10:25", "text": "moving slowly and would disappear then"}, {"end": "02:10:31", "start": "02:10:27", "text": "reappear somewhere else. It seemed like"}, {"end": "02:10:33", "start": "02:10:29", "text": "the objects and the beings were guarding"}, {"end": "02:10:35", "start": "02:10:31", "text": "the saucer or maybe trying to fix some"}, {"end": "02:10:37", "start": "02:10:33", "text": "kind of malfunction. Immediately after"}, {"end": "02:10:39", "start": "02:10:35", "text": "the incident, the headmaster of the"}, {"end": "02:10:41", "start": "02:10:37", "text": "school, Colin Mackey, told the children"}, {"end": "02:10:43", "start": "02:10:39", "text": "to draw what they saw and write down"}, {"end": "02:10:44", "start": "02:10:41", "text": "everything they could about what"}, {"end": "02:10:47", "start": "02:10:43", "text": "happened. This would prove very helpful"}, {"end": "02:10:48", "start": "02:10:44", "text": "in future investigations. Reports"}, {"end": "02:10:51", "start": "02:10:47", "text": "varied, but all shared core"}, {"end": "02:10:53", "start": "02:10:48", "text": "similarities. A number of beings emerged"}, {"end": "02:10:55", "start": "02:10:51", "text": "from the craft. The beings were humanoid"}, {"end": "02:10:57", "start": "02:10:53", "text": "with large heads, small mouths, and"}, {"end": "02:10:59", "start": "02:10:55", "text": "large dark oval eyes wearing tight black"}, {"end": "02:11:01", "start": "02:10:57", "text": "suits. Some of the children said there"}, {"end": "02:11:03", "start": "02:10:59", "text": "was a being walking or running around"}, {"end": "02:11:05", "start": "02:11:01", "text": "the top of the craft. Others said it was"}, {"end": "02:11:08", "start": "02:11:03", "text": "moving around on the ground, but the way"}, {"end": "02:11:12", "start": "02:11:05", "text": "the beings moved was strange."}, {"end": "02:11:13", "start": "02:11:08", "text": ">> We saw this black figure running in a"}, {"end": "02:11:15", "start": "02:11:12", "text": "slow motion."}, {"end": "02:11:17", "start": "02:11:13", "text": ">> The strange thing was it seemed to be in"}, {"end": "02:11:19", "start": "02:11:15", "text": "very slow motion."}, {"end": "02:11:20", "start": "02:11:17", "text": ">> The way the beings moved spooked some of"}, {"end": "02:11:23", "start": "02:11:19", "text": "the younger children and they began to"}, {"end": "02:11:24", "start": "02:11:20", "text": "cry and scream. This drew even more"}, {"end": "02:11:26", "start": "02:11:23", "text": "attention from the other students"}, {"end": "02:11:28", "start": "02:11:24", "text": "nearby. It also drew the attention of"}, {"end": "02:11:30", "start": "02:11:26", "text": "the beings. Then the children noticed"}, {"end": "02:11:32", "start": "02:11:28", "text": "the being in front of the craft was"}, {"end": "02:11:34", "start": "02:11:30", "text": "looking back. And even though its mouth"}, {"end": "02:11:36", "start": "02:11:32", "text": "didn't move, the children heard it in"}, {"end": "02:11:38", "start": "02:11:34", "text": "their minds. The adults at aerial school"}, {"end": "02:11:40", "start": "02:11:36", "text": "didn't know if the children had seen a"}, {"end": "02:11:41", "start": "02:11:38", "text": "UFO in aliens, but they believe they saw"}, {"end": "02:11:44", "start": "02:11:40", "text": "something."}, {"end": "02:11:47", "start": "02:11:41", "text": ">> I agree that it could be something that"}, {"end": "02:11:49", "start": "02:11:44", "text": "we um are not common with."}, {"end": "02:11:51", "start": "02:11:47", "text": ">> The event happened on a Friday, and over"}, {"end": "02:11:53", "start": "02:11:49", "text": "the weekend, some parents were searching"}, {"end": "02:11:55", "start": "02:11:51", "text": "the field behind the school looking for"}, {"end": "02:11:56", "start": "02:11:53", "text": "physical evidence. They did find some"}, {"end": "02:11:58", "start": "02:11:55", "text": "flattened brush, but that could have"}, {"end": "02:12:00", "start": "02:11:56", "text": "been caused by anything. When Colin"}, {"end": "02:12:02", "start": "02:11:58", "text": "Mackey got to work on Monday morning,"}, {"end": "02:12:04", "start": "02:12:00", "text": "his desk was covered with letters and"}, {"end": "02:12:06", "start": "02:12:02", "text": "messages from parents demanding to know"}, {"end": "02:12:08", "start": "02:12:04", "text": "what terrified their children. Some"}, {"end": "02:12:09", "start": "02:12:06", "text": "students were so traumatized they"}, {"end": "02:12:11", "start": "02:12:08", "text": "wouldn't return to school for a few"}, {"end": "02:12:13", "start": "02:12:09", "text": "days. A couple of students wouldn't"}, {"end": "02:12:15", "start": "02:12:11", "text": "return at all. Colin Mackey knew that he"}, {"end": "02:12:17", "start": "02:12:13", "text": "had to get to the bottom of whatever"}, {"end": "02:12:19", "start": "02:12:15", "text": "this was. He had to make sense of it to"}, {"end": "02:12:22", "start": "02:12:17", "text": "solve it. But to do that, he would need"}, {"end": "02:12:22", "start": "02:12:19", "text": "help."}, {"end": "02:12:27", "start": "02:12:23", "text": "There were roughly a hundred kids in the"}, {"end": "02:12:31", "start": "02:12:24", "text": "playground broad daylight aerial school"}, {"end": "02:12:33", "start": "02:12:27", "text": "ru Zimbabwe 1994 and they got within"}, {"end": "02:12:36", "start": "02:12:31", "text": "arms arms some of them within arms"}, {"end": "02:12:37", "start": "02:12:33", "text": "length of these beings but those kids"}, {"end": "02:12:39", "start": "02:12:36", "text": "the way they were talking about it the"}, {"end": "02:12:41", "start": "02:12:37", "text": "way they were drawing it you're like wow"}, {"end": "02:12:41", "start": "02:12:39", "text": "it really does seem like something"}, {"end": "02:12:43", "start": "02:12:41", "text": "happened to them"}, {"end": "02:12:45", "start": "02:12:41", "text": ">> I get goosebumps still to this day after"}, {"end": "02:12:47", "start": "02:12:43", "text": "spending over six years investigating"}, {"end": "02:12:48", "start": "02:12:45", "text": "this case it just gives me the"}, {"end": "02:12:51", "start": "02:12:47", "text": "goosebumps when I see that because you"}, {"end": "02:12:51", "start": "02:12:48", "text": "know those kids aren't lying"}, {"end": "02:12:57", "start": "02:12:53", "text": "In the few days after the loud sound was"}, {"end": "02:12:59", "start": "02:12:55", "text": "heard all over Zimbabwe, Cynthia Hind"}, {"end": "02:13:02", "start": "02:12:57", "text": "would continue to study witness reports"}, {"end": "02:13:03", "start": "02:12:59", "text": "of the supposed meteor shower. Professor"}, {"end": "02:13:05", "start": "02:13:02", "text": "Euan Nesbbit, who worked at the"}, {"end": "02:13:07", "start": "02:13:03", "text": "Greenwich Observatory in London, told"}, {"end": "02:13:09", "start": "02:13:05", "text": "her that a Russian satellite had entered"}, {"end": "02:13:11", "start": "02:13:07", "text": "Earth's atmosphere. As the satellite"}, {"end": "02:13:13", "start": "02:13:09", "text": "burned up, it caused strange lights in"}, {"end": "02:13:15", "start": "02:13:11", "text": "the sky and what sounded like an"}, {"end": "02:13:16", "start": "02:13:13", "text": "explosion. Some pieces of the satellite"}, {"end": "02:13:19", "start": "02:13:15", "text": "were actually recovered in the city of"}, {"end": "02:13:20", "start": "02:13:16", "text": "Koy outside of Harrari. But a"}, {"end": "02:13:23", "start": "02:13:19", "text": "disintegrating satellite didn't match"}, {"end": "02:13:25", "start": "02:13:20", "text": "the descriptions given by the witnesses."}, {"end": "02:13:29", "start": "02:13:23", "text": ">> We saw this like a silver thing down"}, {"end": "02:13:31", "start": "02:13:25", "text": "there. It was a silver oval thing that"}, {"end": "02:13:33", "start": "02:13:29", "text": "um flew past really slowly."}, {"end": "02:13:35", "start": "02:13:31", "text": ">> I saw the bigger one and a spaceship,"}, {"end": "02:13:37", "start": "02:13:33", "text": "like four or five of them. There was"}, {"end": "02:13:39", "start": "02:13:35", "text": "red, green, and yellow. There was this"}, {"end": "02:13:40", "start": "02:13:37", "text": "big ship. It had these lights, these"}, {"end": "02:13:42", "start": "02:13:39", "text": "patterns, and it flew."}, {"end": "02:13:44", "start": "02:13:40", "text": ">> The news outlets had encouraged"}, {"end": "02:13:46", "start": "02:13:42", "text": "witnesses to call with any information"}, {"end": "02:13:48", "start": "02:13:44", "text": "they had about the mysterious object."}, {"end": "02:13:50", "start": "02:13:46", "text": "Hundreds of people called the local"}, {"end": "02:13:52", "start": "02:13:48", "text": "television station and the BBC station"}, {"end": "02:13:54", "start": "02:13:50", "text": "in Harare. What they reported did not"}, {"end": "02:13:58", "start": "02:13:52", "text": "resemble a meteor shower."}, {"end": "02:14:00", "start": "02:13:54", "text": ">> These things were flying in a pattern"}, {"end": "02:14:02", "start": "02:13:58", "text": "and there was no sound,"}, {"end": "02:14:04", "start": "02:14:00", "text": ">> no wings, no nothing."}, {"end": "02:14:06", "start": "02:14:02", "text": ">> Shining over things."}, {"end": "02:14:09", "start": "02:14:04", "text": ">> As the continental coordinator for MUON,"}, {"end": "02:14:10", "start": "02:14:06", "text": "the mutual UFO network, Cynthia had her"}, {"end": "02:14:12", "start": "02:14:09", "text": "own theories about what might have been"}, {"end": "02:14:14", "start": "02:14:10", "text": "seen in the sky that night, but she"}, {"end": "02:14:16", "start": "02:14:12", "text": "needed more evidence. Two days later"}, {"end": "02:14:19", "start": "02:14:14", "text": "came an electrifying call from Tim"}, {"end": "02:14:20", "start": "02:14:16", "text": "Leech, the BBC bureau chief for"}, {"end": "02:14:20", "start": "02:14:19", "text": "Zimbabwe."}, {"end": "02:14:22", "start": "02:14:20", "text": ">> Hello."}, {"end": "02:14:24", "start": "02:14:20", "text": ">> Hello. My name is Tim Leech from BBC"}, {"end": "02:14:26", "start": "02:14:22", "text": "television news. I understand that you"}, {"end": "02:14:28", "start": "02:14:24", "text": "you had some strange experience."}, {"end": "02:14:30", "start": "02:14:26", "text": ">> Yes, that's right."}, {"end": "02:14:32", "start": "02:14:28", "text": ">> He was a respected journalist, a"}, {"end": "02:14:35", "start": "02:14:30", "text": "seasoned reporter who covered war zones."}, {"end": "02:14:38", "start": "02:14:32", "text": "Yet on this call, he sounded rattled."}, {"end": "02:14:41", "start": "02:14:35", "text": "Tim told Cynthia that 62 students at the"}, {"end": "02:14:42", "start": "02:14:38", "text": "aerial school in Rua had seen a UFO. He"}, {"end": "02:14:44", "start": "02:14:41", "text": "invited her to join him at the school to"}, {"end": "02:14:47", "start": "02:14:42", "text": "talk to the children. Of course, she"}, {"end": "02:14:50", "start": "02:14:44", "text": "agreed. But even after 20 years as a UFO"}, {"end": "02:14:53", "start": "02:14:47", "text": "investigator, she'd never seen anything"}, {"end": "02:14:53", "start": "02:14:50", "text": "like this."}, {"end": "02:14:59", "start": "02:14:55", "text": "Tim Leech was a cameraman and producer"}, {"end": "02:15:01", "start": "02:14:57", "text": "who had covered war torn parts of Africa"}, {"end": "02:15:04", "start": "02:14:59", "text": "like Angola, Rwanda, and Nigeria for the"}, {"end": "02:15:06", "start": "02:15:01", "text": "BBC. He was familiar with gunfire in"}, {"end": "02:15:08", "start": "02:15:04", "text": "tense situations. He even witnessed the"}, {"end": "02:15:11", "start": "02:15:06", "text": "deaths of several colleagues. Despite"}, {"end": "02:15:13", "start": "02:15:08", "text": "his experience, Tim was unsure about how"}, {"end": "02:15:14", "start": "02:15:11", "text": "to proceed. The BBC is known for"}, {"end": "02:15:16", "start": "02:15:13", "text": "fact-based reporting."}, {"end": "02:15:18", "start": "02:15:14", "text": ">> If you think the media is reporting"}, {"end": "02:15:20", "start": "02:15:16", "text": "facts, I have an NFT to sell you."}, {"end": "02:15:21", "start": "02:15:18", "text": ">> Well, they require multiple sources to"}, {"end": "02:15:23", "start": "02:15:20", "text": "run a story."}, {"end": "02:15:26", "start": "02:15:21", "text": ">> If you count anonymous sources,"}, {"end": "02:15:28", "start": "02:15:23", "text": ">> Tim had over 60 sources, actual sources."}, {"end": "02:15:30", "start": "02:15:26", "text": "Yet, the story still wasn't considered"}, {"end": "02:15:30", "start": "02:15:28", "text": "credible. Local reporters weren't taking"}, {"end": "02:15:32", "start": "02:15:30", "text": "it seriously."}, {"end": "02:15:34", "start": "02:15:30", "text": ">> Well, unless it's a story about cow"}, {"end": "02:15:36", "start": "02:15:32", "text": "farts and global warming, they take that"}, {"end": "02:15:38", "start": "02:15:34", "text": "very seriously. Yeah, I don't want to"}, {"end": "02:15:41", "start": "02:15:36", "text": "have this conversation now. Even Tim"}, {"end": "02:15:42", "start": "02:15:38", "text": "Leech, a self-proclaimed realist and"}, {"end": "02:15:45", "start": "02:15:41", "text": "skeptic, couldn't make sense of the"}, {"end": "02:15:47", "start": "02:15:42", "text": "aerial school UFO incident. That's when"}, {"end": "02:15:49", "start": "02:15:45", "text": "Cynthia Hines suggested they contact Dr."}, {"end": "02:15:51", "start": "02:15:47", "text": "John Mack."}, {"end": "02:15:54", "start": "02:15:49", "text": ">> Jim Leech from BBC television news in"}, {"end": "02:15:59", "start": "02:15:51", "text": "Harrari, Zimbabwe. Message for Dr. John"}, {"end": "02:16:03", "start": "02:15:54", "text": "Mack. This concerns a UFO sighting over"}, {"end": "02:16:06", "start": "02:15:59", "text": "a school where it hovered, landed, a"}, {"end": "02:16:07", "start": "02:16:03", "text": "black man got out. But of course, we're"}, {"end": "02:16:10", "start": "02:16:06", "text": "having difficulty being taken seriously"}, {"end": "02:16:14", "start": "02:16:07", "text": "in spite of being the BBC. Please call"}, {"end": "02:16:16", "start": "02:16:10", "text": "me soon as you can. Thank you."}, {"end": "02:16:18", "start": "02:16:14", "text": ">> Dr. Mack was a psychiatrist who"}, {"end": "02:16:20", "start": "02:16:16", "text": "specialized in child psychology. In the"}, {"end": "02:16:22", "start": "02:16:18", "text": "early 90s, he conducted a 10-year"}, {"end": "02:16:24", "start": "02:16:20", "text": "psychological study on individuals who"}, {"end": "02:16:26", "start": "02:16:22", "text": "claim to have experienced encounters"}, {"end": "02:16:29", "start": "02:16:24", "text": "with aliens. These encounters often"}, {"end": "02:16:31", "start": "02:16:26", "text": "recurred and even involved abductions."}, {"end": "02:16:33", "start": "02:16:29", "text": "Dr. Mack believed that society,"}, {"end": "02:16:34", "start": "02:16:31", "text": "especially academics, shouldn't dismiss"}, {"end": "02:16:36", "start": "02:16:33", "text": "these reports as mere mental or"}, {"end": "02:16:38", "start": "02:16:34", "text": "cognitive issues."}, {"end": "02:16:39", "start": "02:16:36", "text": ">> Again, the whole thing has made me"}, {"end": "02:16:42", "start": "02:16:38", "text": "re-examine all of these notions of"}, {"end": "02:16:43", "start": "02:16:39", "text": "happened, didn't happen. For them, it is"}, {"end": "02:16:45", "start": "02:16:42", "text": "completely real and it is not the"}, {"end": "02:16:48", "start": "02:16:43", "text": "product of mental illness. Now whether"}, {"end": "02:16:51", "start": "02:16:45", "text": "it happened altogether in this reality I"}, {"end": "02:16:53", "start": "02:16:48", "text": "don't know but it shows up in their"}, {"end": "02:16:55", "start": "02:16:51", "text": "world they're there seemed to be missing"}, {"end": "02:16:58", "start": "02:16:53", "text": "by witnesses at the time so something is"}, {"end": "02:16:59", "start": "02:16:55", "text": "occurring that is entering our world."}, {"end": "02:17:02", "start": "02:16:58", "text": ">> The teachers felt that it was unlikely"}, {"end": "02:17:04", "start": "02:16:59", "text": "for 62 students to come up with such"}, {"end": "02:17:06", "start": "02:17:02", "text": "nuanced and similar stories together."}, {"end": "02:17:08", "start": "02:17:04", "text": "Cynthia Hind had also noted that if all"}, {"end": "02:17:10", "start": "02:17:06", "text": "these kids had told the exact same"}, {"end": "02:17:12", "start": "02:17:08", "text": "story, it would suggest that they had"}, {"end": "02:17:14", "start": "02:17:10", "text": "conspired and fabricated it. While she"}, {"end": "02:17:16", "start": "02:17:12", "text": "acknowledges that some students may have"}, {"end": "02:17:18", "start": "02:17:14", "text": "added or embellished details, she"}, {"end": "02:17:19", "start": "02:17:16", "text": "believed that the core of what each"}, {"end": "02:17:21", "start": "02:17:18", "text": "child claimed to have seen remained the"}, {"end": "02:17:23", "start": "02:17:19", "text": "same and that what they saw was very"}, {"end": "02:17:25", "start": "02:17:21", "text": "creepy. The figure on the ground"}, {"end": "02:17:27", "start": "02:17:23", "text": "approached them and stopped just a few"}, {"end": "02:17:29", "start": "02:17:25", "text": "feet away. The children said it stared"}, {"end": "02:17:31", "start": "02:17:27", "text": "intently at them, at all of them, and"}, {"end": "02:17:34", "start": "02:17:29", "text": "this was unsettling to some kids and"}, {"end": "02:17:35", "start": "02:17:31", "text": "downright scary to others. And Dr. Mack"}, {"end": "02:17:37", "start": "02:17:34", "text": "interviewed some students who were"}, {"end": "02:17:38", "start": "02:17:35", "text": "visibly upset when recalling the"}, {"end": "02:17:40", "start": "02:17:37", "text": "encounter. The children also felt the"}, {"end": "02:17:42", "start": "02:17:38", "text": "being was trying to send them a specific"}, {"end": "02:17:45", "start": "02:17:40", "text": "message and even put images into their"}, {"end": "02:17:47", "start": "02:17:42", "text": "minds. Dr. Mack found it interesting"}, {"end": "02:17:49", "start": "02:17:45", "text": "that the message sent to the children"}, {"end": "02:17:51", "start": "02:17:47", "text": "didn't offer any solutions, only a"}, {"end": "02:17:52", "start": "02:17:49", "text": "warning. There was no suggestion as to"}, {"end": "02:17:54", "start": "02:17:51", "text": "how to address pollution."}, {"end": "02:17:54", "start": "02:17:52", "text": ">> But what did Greta Thunderberg go to"}, {"end": "02:17:56", "start": "02:17:54", "text": "this school?"}, {"end": "02:17:57", "start": "02:17:54", "text": ">> She wasn't even born yet."}, {"end": "02:18:00", "start": "02:17:56", "text": ">> How dare you?"}, {"end": "02:18:01", "start": "02:17:57", "text": ">> Dr. Mack felt this lack of agenda made"}, {"end": "02:18:03", "start": "02:18:00", "text": "the children's stories about the"}, {"end": "02:18:05", "start": "02:18:01", "text": "encounter more sincere. One girl tried"}, {"end": "02:18:07", "start": "02:18:03", "text": "to explain what the being was telling"}, {"end": "02:18:09", "start": "02:18:05", "text": "her about humans impact on the planet."}, {"end": "02:18:11", "start": "02:18:07", "text": "Dr. Mack was encouraged. He asked if"}, {"end": "02:18:14", "start": "02:18:09", "text": "there's anything we as a people can do"}, {"end": "02:18:18", "start": "02:18:11", "text": "with that love to help the Earth."}, {"end": "02:18:18", "start": "02:18:14", "text": "Unfortunately, the answer was no."}, {"end": "02:18:25", "start": "02:18:20", "text": "In the days and weeks following the"}, {"end": "02:18:27", "start": "02:18:22", "text": "encounter, Ariel School became inundated"}, {"end": "02:18:30", "start": "02:18:25", "text": "with UFO fever. The media swarmed,"}, {"end": "02:18:32", "start": "02:18:27", "text": "locals speculated, but authorities clung"}, {"end": "02:18:34", "start": "02:18:30", "text": "to conventional explanations. The"}, {"end": "02:18:36", "start": "02:18:32", "text": "official story was a meteor shower from"}, {"end": "02:18:38", "start": "02:18:34", "text": "two nights before seeded mass hysteria."}, {"end": "02:18:40", "start": "02:18:36", "text": "A few students concocted an elaborate"}, {"end": "02:18:42", "start": "02:18:38", "text": "imaginary tale that caught on with the"}, {"end": "02:18:44", "start": "02:18:40", "text": "rest of the school. Parents were"}, {"end": "02:18:46", "start": "02:18:42", "text": "divided. Some refused to believe their"}, {"end": "02:18:48", "start": "02:18:44", "text": "children, but others took the story more"}, {"end": "02:18:50", "start": "02:18:46", "text": "seriously. Many locals chocked it up to"}, {"end": "02:18:52", "start": "02:18:48", "text": "mischievous spirits like the Shona"}, {"end": "02:18:55", "start": "02:18:50", "text": "Talos, a dwarf from Zulu mythology with"}, {"end": "02:18:58", "start": "02:18:52", "text": "a large head and pointed ears. Holy men"}, {"end": "02:19:00", "start": "02:18:55", "text": "suggested ancient shrines nearby had"}, {"end": "02:19:01", "start": "02:18:58", "text": "drawn the craft. They claimed that"}, {"end": "02:19:03", "start": "02:19:00", "text": "mysterious events had been happening in"}, {"end": "02:19:05", "start": "02:19:01", "text": "the area for years. Either way, most"}, {"end": "02:19:07", "start": "02:19:03", "text": "residents believed something"}, {"end": "02:19:09", "start": "02:19:05", "text": "supernatural had occurred. Whether it"}, {"end": "02:19:11", "start": "02:19:07", "text": "was aliens or not, the teachers and"}, {"end": "02:19:13", "start": "02:19:09", "text": "investigators believe the children had"}, {"end": "02:19:15", "start": "02:19:11", "text": "some kind of experience. And similar"}, {"end": "02:19:17", "start": "02:19:13", "text": "reports were made before and after the"}, {"end": "02:19:21", "start": "02:19:15", "text": "school sighting."}, {"end": "02:19:21", "start": "02:19:17", "text": ">> What the hell is that?"}, {"end": "02:19:26", "start": "02:19:21", "text": "2 days before the aerial encounter, 100"}, {"end": "02:19:29", "start": "02:19:24", "text": "students at the Pier House School only"}, {"end": "02:19:31", "start": "02:19:26", "text": "25 miles away saw a flying object flying"}, {"end": "02:19:33", "start": "02:19:29", "text": "very low to the ground as if it was"}, {"end": "02:19:35", "start": "02:19:31", "text": "going to land. At the same time, the"}, {"end": "02:19:38", "start": "02:19:33", "text": "school and bus radio system stopped"}, {"end": "02:19:40", "start": "02:19:35", "text": "working. That same day, during daylight,"}, {"end": "02:19:42", "start": "02:19:38", "text": "a mother and her young child said they"}, {"end": "02:19:44", "start": "02:19:40", "text": "saw a UFO in the area, and a truck"}, {"end": "02:19:46", "start": "02:19:42", "text": "driver reported seeing strange beings on"}, {"end": "02:19:48", "start": "02:19:44", "text": "the roadside that night when he was"}, {"end": "02:19:51", "start": "02:19:46", "text": "driving. But the story of the aerial"}, {"end": "02:19:53", "start": "02:19:48", "text": "school UFO incident isn't perfect. Many"}, {"end": "02:19:55", "start": "02:19:51", "text": "students agreed on some details, but the"}, {"end": "02:19:57", "start": "02:19:53", "text": "stories had a lot of variations and"}, {"end": "02:19:59", "start": "02:19:55", "text": "contradictions. Some students saw the"}, {"end": "02:20:01", "start": "02:19:57", "text": "beings, but not the craft. Some"}, {"end": "02:20:03", "start": "02:19:59", "text": "described the object in detail, but"}, {"end": "02:20:05", "start": "02:20:01", "text": "don't remember any beings or entities of"}, {"end": "02:20:07", "start": "02:20:03", "text": "any kind. Some students playing in the"}, {"end": "02:20:09", "start": "02:20:05", "text": "yard at the very same time saw nothing"}, {"end": "02:20:11", "start": "02:20:07", "text": "at all. The students that did see the"}, {"end": "02:20:13", "start": "02:20:09", "text": "object couldn't decide if it was one or"}, {"end": "02:20:15", "start": "02:20:11", "text": "more. Most students thought the object"}, {"end": "02:20:17", "start": "02:20:13", "text": "was a ship or a craft, but they couldn't"}, {"end": "02:20:19", "start": "02:20:15", "text": "agree on how it looked. Some kids drew"}, {"end": "02:20:21", "start": "02:20:17", "text": "windows and doors. Other children saw"}, {"end": "02:20:23", "start": "02:20:19", "text": "lights and landing gear. Two boys said"}, {"end": "02:20:25", "start": "02:20:21", "text": "the ship wasn't silver, it was black"}, {"end": "02:20:27", "start": "02:20:23", "text": "with green stripes. One child said it"}, {"end": "02:20:30", "start": "02:20:25", "text": "was red. At least two students heard a"}, {"end": "02:20:32", "start": "02:20:27", "text": "loud noise in the sky. Some said it was"}, {"end": "02:20:34", "start": "02:20:30", "text": "a buzzing sound like bees. Another said"}, {"end": "02:20:36", "start": "02:20:32", "text": "it sounded like a flute. As for the"}, {"end": "02:20:38", "start": "02:20:34", "text": "beings or pilots or aliens or whoever"}, {"end": "02:20:40", "start": "02:20:36", "text": "they were, some students said they had"}, {"end": "02:20:42", "start": "02:20:38", "text": "long black hair while others saw no hair"}, {"end": "02:20:44", "start": "02:20:40", "text": "at all. Some kids said the beings were"}, {"end": "02:20:45", "start": "02:20:42", "text": "fat, some said they were thin. One"}, {"end": "02:20:47", "start": "02:20:44", "text": "student said the being looked like a"}, {"end": "02:20:49", "start": "02:20:45", "text": "shadow, and there was no agreement on"}, {"end": "02:20:51", "start": "02:20:47", "text": "how many there were. And Dr. Mac's"}, {"end": "02:20:53", "start": "02:20:49", "text": "participation in the case is also"}, {"end": "02:20:55", "start": "02:20:51", "text": "problematic. He didn't arrive at the"}, {"end": "02:20:57", "start": "02:20:53", "text": "school until months after the event."}, {"end": "02:20:58", "start": "02:20:55", "text": "Meanwhile, the students had spoken to"}, {"end": "02:21:00", "start": "02:20:57", "text": "lots of people, been interviewed by the"}, {"end": "02:21:02", "start": "02:20:58", "text": "media, and drew countless pictures of"}, {"end": "02:21:04", "start": "02:21:00", "text": "what they saw. And that's plenty of time"}, {"end": "02:21:07", "start": "02:21:02", "text": "for the story to evolve. And when Dr."}, {"end": "02:21:09", "start": "02:21:04", "text": "Mac finally arrived. He interviewed the"}, {"end": "02:21:10", "start": "02:21:07", "text": "children in small and large groups where"}, {"end": "02:21:13", "start": "02:21:09", "text": "they would just agree with each other's"}, {"end": "02:21:15", "start": "02:21:10", "text": "stories. And Dr. Mack had a reputation"}, {"end": "02:21:17", "start": "02:21:13", "text": "for asking very leading questions. He"}, {"end": "02:21:19", "start": "02:21:15", "text": "did the same thing when he spoke to the"}, {"end": "02:21:20", "start": "02:21:17", "text": "children in Brazil who said they saw an"}, {"end": "02:21:21", "start": "02:21:19", "text": "alien in the town of Argia."}, {"end": "02:21:23", "start": "02:21:20", "text": ">> Vagina."}, {"end": "02:21:25", "start": "02:21:21", "text": ">> Before Dr. Mack brought up the idea that"}, {"end": "02:21:27", "start": "02:21:23", "text": "aliens were communicating"}, {"end": "02:21:29", "start": "02:21:25", "text": "telepathically, the children never"}, {"end": "02:21:30", "start": "02:21:27", "text": "mentioned it. Same with the telepathic"}, {"end": "02:21:32", "start": "02:21:29", "text": "message that the children allegedly"}, {"end": "02:21:34", "start": "02:21:30", "text": "received about how the Earth was in"}, {"end": "02:21:36", "start": "02:21:32", "text": "danger because of pollution. The"}, {"end": "02:21:38", "start": "02:21:34", "text": "students didn't mention that before Dr."}, {"end": "02:21:40", "start": "02:21:36", "text": "Mack joined the investigation. Dr. Mack"}, {"end": "02:21:42", "start": "02:21:38", "text": "was an environmentalist who was very"}, {"end": "02:21:44", "start": "02:21:40", "text": "worried about climate change. Oh, you"}, {"end": "02:21:47", "start": "02:21:42", "text": "believe in UFOs, but not climate change."}, {"end": "02:21:47", "start": "02:21:44", "text": ">> Of course, one's a real thing and one"}, {"end": "02:21:49", "start": "02:21:47", "text": "isn't."}, {"end": "02:21:51", "start": "02:21:47", "text": ">> For the most part, the teachers believe"}, {"end": "02:21:55", "start": "02:21:49", "text": "the students. So did Cynthia Hind."}, {"end": "02:21:58", "start": "02:21:51", "text": ">> I believe them. I believe they saw what"}, {"end": "02:22:00", "start": "02:21:55", "text": "they said they saw. I think that perhaps"}, {"end": "02:22:03", "start": "02:21:58", "text": "some have been influenced by others and"}, {"end": "02:22:06", "start": "02:22:00", "text": "they've added a little bit here and a"}, {"end": "02:22:09", "start": "02:22:03", "text": "little bit there, but basically they put"}, {"end": "02:22:10", "start": "02:22:06", "text": "drew in their drawings many things that"}, {"end": "02:22:13", "start": "02:22:09", "text": "I don't think that they could know"}, {"end": "02:22:15", "start": "02:22:10", "text": "about. Cynthia Hind wasn't just a UFO"}, {"end": "02:22:17", "start": "02:22:13", "text": "researcher. She was the Muon continental"}, {"end": "02:22:19", "start": "02:22:15", "text": "coordinator for Africa. And the purpose"}, {"end": "02:22:22", "start": "02:22:17", "text": "of Muon is to investigate UFO sightings"}, {"end": "02:22:23", "start": "02:22:19", "text": "and gather data. Muon is not a group of"}, {"end": "02:22:25", "start": "02:22:22", "text": "UFO nerds posting on Reddit."}, {"end": "02:22:28", "start": "02:22:23", "text": ">> I do like those nerds though."}, {"end": "02:22:30", "start": "02:22:25", "text": ">> I do too. Muon tries to discredit as"}, {"end": "02:22:32", "start": "02:22:28", "text": "many stories as they can so that what's"}, {"end": "02:22:35", "start": "02:22:30", "text": "left is truly unidentified. They use the"}, {"end": "02:22:37", "start": "02:22:32", "text": "scientific method. They observe, collect"}, {"end": "02:22:39", "start": "02:22:35", "text": "evidence, and formulate hypothesis. They"}, {"end": "02:22:42", "start": "02:22:37", "text": "then conduct experiments to confirm or"}, {"end": "02:22:45", "start": "02:22:39", "text": "refute each investigation. And they have"}, {"end": "02:22:47", "start": "02:22:42", "text": "a success rate of 95% in proving their"}, {"end": "02:22:49", "start": "02:22:45", "text": "hypothesis. And this case elevated"}, {"end": "02:22:52", "start": "02:22:47", "text": "Cynthia Hines career. But Dr. Mack, on"}, {"end": "02:22:53", "start": "02:22:49", "text": "the other hand, saw his career suffer."}, {"end": "02:22:56", "start": "02:22:52", "text": "He wasn't just a child psychiatrist who"}, {"end": "02:22:58", "start": "02:22:53", "text": "dabbled in UFO research. He was a"}, {"end": "02:23:00", "start": "02:22:56", "text": "Pulitzer Prize-winning professor and"}, {"end": "02:23:02", "start": "02:22:58", "text": "head of the department of psychiatry at"}, {"end": "02:23:04", "start": "02:23:00", "text": "Harvard Medical School, but his"}, {"end": "02:23:06", "start": "02:23:02", "text": "colleagues didn't like Harvard being"}, {"end": "02:23:08", "start": "02:23:04", "text": "attached to his UFO research."}, {"end": "02:23:09", "start": "02:23:06", "text": ">> We're very embarrassed and embarrassed"}, {"end": "02:23:11", "start": "02:23:08", "text": "for the profession and a little worried"}, {"end": "02:23:13", "start": "02:23:09", "text": "about John himself. You"}, {"end": "02:23:16", "start": "02:23:11", "text": ">> what? He's gone off the rails."}, {"end": "02:23:18", "start": "02:23:13", "text": ">> Well, John is a man of great gift and"}, {"end": "02:23:20", "start": "02:23:16", "text": "great intelligence, but he's also a man"}, {"end": "02:23:24", "start": "02:23:18", "text": "of who tends to take on enthusiasms. And"}, {"end": "02:23:25", "start": "02:23:20", "text": "in this time, he's gone gone too far."}, {"end": "02:23:28", "start": "02:23:24", "text": "We're worried about him. and we hope"}, {"end": "02:23:30", "start": "02:23:25", "text": "he'll pull himself together."}, {"end": "02:23:32", "start": "02:23:28", "text": ">> Harvard Medical School actually formed a"}, {"end": "02:23:34", "start": "02:23:30", "text": "committee to investigate Dr. Mack. This"}, {"end": "02:23:36", "start": "02:23:32", "text": "marked the first time in the school's"}, {"end": "02:23:38", "start": "02:23:34", "text": "history that a tenure professor and"}, {"end": "02:23:40", "start": "02:23:36", "text": "department head was investigated without"}, {"end": "02:23:42", "start": "02:23:38", "text": "evidence of misconduct. After the"}, {"end": "02:23:45", "start": "02:23:40", "text": "investigation, which lasted for 14"}, {"end": "02:23:46", "start": "02:23:42", "text": "months, the dean of Harvard issued a"}, {"end": "02:23:48", "start": "02:23:45", "text": "statement that Dr. Mack was allowed to"}, {"end": "02:23:52", "start": "02:23:46", "text": "study whatever he wanted. the most"}, {"end": "02:23:57", "start": "02:23:48", "text": "fundamental right that any academic has"}, {"end": "02:23:57", "start": "02:23:52", "text": "is the right to be wrong."}, {"end": "02:24:00", "start": "02:23:57", "text": ">> But the statement was not very positive"}, {"end": "02:24:02", "start": "02:23:59", "text": "and Dr. Mac's reputation never"}, {"end": "02:24:04", "start": "02:24:00", "text": "recovered. He continued to investigate"}, {"end": "02:24:08", "start": "02:24:02", "text": "UFO encounters and alien abductions for"}, {"end": "02:24:10", "start": "02:24:04", "text": "another 10 years. But in 2004, he was in"}, {"end": "02:24:12", "start": "02:24:08", "text": "London to give a lecture. On September"}, {"end": "02:24:13", "start": "02:24:10", "text": "27th, Dr. Mack was walking home from"}, {"end": "02:24:16", "start": "02:24:12", "text": "dinner with friends when he was struck"}, {"end": "02:24:18", "start": "02:24:13", "text": "and killed by a drunk driver. Now, his"}, {"end": "02:24:20", "start": "02:24:16", "text": "death was a tragedy, but there are"}, {"end": "02:24:23", "start": "02:24:18", "text": "people who believed it was more sinister"}, {"end": "02:24:24", "start": "02:24:20", "text": "than that. Dr. John Mack was at the time"}, {"end": "02:24:26", "start": "02:24:23", "text": "one of the most famous people"}, {"end": "02:24:28", "start": "02:24:24", "text": "researching alien abductions. He"}, {"end": "02:24:30", "start": "02:24:26", "text": "appeared on mainstream television shows"}, {"end": "02:24:32", "start": "02:24:28", "text": "like Larry King Live and Oprah, and some"}, {"end": "02:24:34", "start": "02:24:30", "text": "believe his high visibility put his life"}, {"end": "02:24:37", "start": "02:24:32", "text": "in danger. Now, there is no evidence to"}, {"end": "02:24:39", "start": "02:24:34", "text": "support foul play, but it is interesting"}, {"end": "02:24:41", "start": "02:24:37", "text": "that on the day John Mack was killed in"}, {"end": "02:24:43", "start": "02:24:39", "text": "England, three other John Maxs were also"}, {"end": "02:24:45", "start": "02:24:41", "text": "killed in England, and Dr. Dr. Mac's"}, {"end": "02:24:46", "start": "02:24:43", "text": "family declined to press charges."}, {"end": "02:24:48", "start": "02:24:45", "text": ">> Many black got at him."}, {"end": "02:24:51", "start": "02:24:46", "text": ">> That is the suspicion. But whether his"}, {"end": "02:24:53", "start": "02:24:48", "text": "death was an accident or not, Dr. John"}, {"end": "02:24:56", "start": "02:24:51", "text": "Mack is just one name in a long list of"}, {"end": "02:24:59", "start": "02:24:53", "text": "UFO researchers and whistleblowers who"}, {"end": "02:25:02", "start": "02:24:56", "text": "die early. Now, those deaths could all"}, {"end": "02:25:05", "start": "02:24:59", "text": "be coincidences, but you know how I feel"}, {"end": "02:25:05", "start": "02:25:02", "text": "about those."}, {"end": "02:25:12", "start": "02:25:08", "text": "The aerial school encounter wasn't the"}, {"end": "02:25:14", "start": "02:25:10", "text": "first time a UFO landed near a school"}, {"end": "02:25:17", "start": "02:25:12", "text": "which was seen by multiple people. On"}, {"end": "02:25:19", "start": "02:25:14", "text": "April 6th, 1966 in Melbourne, Australia,"}, {"end": "02:25:21", "start": "02:25:17", "text": "students from Westall High School and"}, {"end": "02:25:24", "start": "02:25:19", "text": "some local residents witnessed a UFO"}, {"end": "02:25:26", "start": "02:25:21", "text": "land in an open field. People described"}, {"end": "02:25:29", "start": "02:25:24", "text": "the object as silver and saucer-shaped"}, {"end": "02:25:31", "start": "02:25:26", "text": "and about twice the size of a car. After"}, {"end": "02:25:33", "start": "02:25:29", "text": "about 20 minutes, five aircraft,"}, {"end": "02:25:35", "start": "02:25:31", "text": "probably military, flew over the area."}, {"end": "02:25:37", "start": "02:25:33", "text": "The object then lifted off and"}, {"end": "02:25:39", "start": "02:25:35", "text": "disappeared. Authorities tried to cover"}, {"end": "02:25:42", "start": "02:25:37", "text": "it up, but the craft was seen by over"}, {"end": "02:25:43", "start": "02:25:39", "text": "200 people who all told very consistent"}, {"end": "02:25:45", "start": "02:25:42", "text": "stories."}, {"end": "02:25:48", "start": "02:25:43", "text": ">> A teacher who claimed to see UFOs"}, {"end": "02:25:49", "start": "02:25:45", "text": "hovering over a Melbourne school says"}, {"end": "02:25:52", "start": "02:25:48", "text": "military officials threatened to have"}, {"end": "02:25:53", "start": "02:25:49", "text": "him fired if he ever spoke about the"}, {"end": "02:25:55", "start": "02:25:52", "text": "incident. They were threatening you."}, {"end": "02:25:57", "start": "02:25:53", "text": ">> Oh, absolutely. I was threatened."}, {"end": "02:25:59", "start": "02:25:55", "text": ">> And if he spoke up,"}, {"end": "02:26:00", "start": "02:25:57", "text": ">> clearly you were drunk on duty and that"}, {"end": "02:26:02", "start": "02:25:59", "text": "will have to be reported to the"}, {"end": "02:26:04", "start": "02:26:00", "text": "education department and of course"}, {"end": "02:26:05", "start": "02:26:02", "text": "you'll lose your job."}, {"end": "02:26:06", "start": "02:26:04", "text": "The government had said it was just a"}, {"end": "02:26:08", "start": "02:26:05", "text": "weather balloon. Ah,"}, {"end": "02:26:10", "start": "02:26:06", "text": ">> where have I heard this one before?"}, {"end": "02:26:12", "start": "02:26:08", "text": ">> But representatives from the military"}, {"end": "02:26:15", "start": "02:26:10", "text": "and government interviewed, interrogated"}, {"end": "02:26:16", "start": "02:26:12", "text": "witnesses, and took soil samples from"}, {"end": "02:26:18", "start": "02:26:15", "text": "where the object landed. That doesn't"}, {"end": "02:26:20", "start": "02:26:16", "text": "sound like something you do when a"}, {"end": "02:26:22", "start": "02:26:18", "text": "weather balloon crashes. The following"}, {"end": "02:26:25", "start": "02:26:20", "text": "year, at Crestview Elementary School in"}, {"end": "02:26:27", "start": "02:26:22", "text": "Miami, students and teachers heard a"}, {"end": "02:26:29", "start": "02:26:25", "text": "strange whistling sound overhead."}, {"end": "02:26:32", "start": "02:26:27", "text": "Looking up, they saw four saucershaped"}, {"end": "02:26:34", "start": "02:26:29", "text": "objects gliding in diamond formation."}, {"end": "02:26:36", "start": "02:26:32", "text": "The craft disappeared for 20 minutes,"}, {"end": "02:26:38", "start": "02:26:34", "text": "then returned, changing their direction."}, {"end": "02:26:40", "start": "02:26:36", "text": "The sound they made was so loud it"}, {"end": "02:26:43", "start": "02:26:38", "text": "drowned out the shouts of the teachers."}, {"end": "02:26:45", "start": "02:26:40", "text": "Students ran back inside, terrified."}, {"end": "02:26:48", "start": "02:26:43", "text": "Briefly vanishing again, the UFOs"}, {"end": "02:26:50", "start": "02:26:45", "text": "rematerialized for another flyby. Then,"}, {"end": "02:26:52", "start": "02:26:48", "text": "in perfect unison, they flipped onto"}, {"end": "02:26:54", "start": "02:26:50", "text": "their sides and flew away at an"}, {"end": "02:26:57", "start": "02:26:52", "text": "unbelievable speed. This event was"}, {"end": "02:27:00", "start": "02:26:54", "text": "witnessed by 150 people. Nine years"}, {"end": "02:27:03", "start": "02:26:57", "text": "later in Wales, over a dozen students"}, {"end": "02:27:05", "start": "02:27:00", "text": "and staff at Broad Haven Primary School"}, {"end": "02:27:07", "start": "02:27:03", "text": "reported a silver disc hovering over the"}, {"end": "02:27:09", "start": "02:27:05", "text": "school. They watched the object for a"}, {"end": "02:27:12", "start": "02:27:07", "text": "few minutes until it darted away. But"}, {"end": "02:27:14", "start": "02:27:09", "text": "later that afternoon, it returned, this"}, {"end": "02:27:15", "start": "02:27:12", "text": "time witnessed by even more people. Once"}, {"end": "02:27:17", "start": "02:27:14", "text": "again, it hovered for a few minutes"}, {"end": "02:27:19", "start": "02:27:15", "text": "before vanishing again. The British"}, {"end": "02:27:22", "start": "02:27:17", "text": "government said the UFO was actually a"}, {"end": "02:27:24", "start": "02:27:19", "text": "meteorological anomaly, a weird weather"}, {"end": "02:27:26", "start": "02:27:22", "text": "event."}, {"end": "02:27:28", "start": "02:27:24", "text": "But in 2017, documents were found that"}, {"end": "02:27:30", "start": "02:27:26", "text": "proved not only was the government"}, {"end": "02:27:32", "start": "02:27:28", "text": "taking the sighting seriously, the UFO"}, {"end": "02:27:34", "start": "02:27:30", "text": "was seen by military personnel and"}, {"end": "02:27:36", "start": "02:27:32", "text": "pilots and air traffic controllers."}, {"end": "02:27:38", "start": "02:27:34", "text": ">> Well, how long are these governments"}, {"end": "02:27:38", "start": "02:27:36", "text": "going to keep lying to their citizens?"}, {"end": "02:27:40", "start": "02:27:38", "text": "Huh?"}, {"end": "02:27:41", "start": "02:27:38", "text": ">> I don't know. I guess until the citizens"}, {"end": "02:27:43", "start": "02:27:40", "text": "get sick of it and do something about"}, {"end": "02:27:47", "start": "02:27:41", "text": "it."}, {"end": "02:27:47", "start": "02:27:43", "text": ">> You sick of it yet."}, {"end": "02:27:54", "start": "02:27:48", "text": ">> 3 + 1 5 + 0 0. I know a lot of people"}, {"end": "02:27:56", "start": "02:27:52", "text": "believe that story, but as far as UFO"}, {"end": "02:28:00", "start": "02:27:54", "text": "stories go, it's not one of the stronger"}, {"end": "02:28:00", "start": "02:27:56", "text": "ones. The next one is a strong one. This"}, {"end": "02:28:04", "start": "02:28:00", "text": "one is"}, {"end": "02:28:05", "start": "02:28:00", "text": ">> human. I've achieved air supremacy."}, {"end": "02:28:07", "start": "02:28:04", "text": ">> Is that a weather balloon?"}, {"end": "02:28:09", "start": "02:28:05", "text": ">> Ah, hello. It's a tactical air powered"}, {"end": "02:28:12", "start": "02:28:07", "text": "levitation device. I'm untraceable."}, {"end": "02:28:13", "start": "02:28:09", "text": ">> Was that an F-16? You better be careful."}, {"end": "02:28:16", "start": "02:28:12", "text": "They'll shoot you down."}, {"end": "02:28:18", "start": "02:28:13", "text": ">> Relax. I put a Chinese spy camera on a"}, {"end": "02:28:20", "start": "02:28:16", "text": "basket. They let those things fly"}, {"end": "02:28:22", "start": "02:28:18", "text": "forever. Balloon aircraft over Groom"}, {"end": "02:28:24", "start": "02:28:20", "text": "Lake. This is Viper 21, United States"}, {"end": "02:28:27", "start": "02:28:22", "text": "Air Force. You are in restricted"}, {"end": "02:28:30", "start": "02:28:24", "text": "airspace. Turn to heading 180 and"}, {"end": "02:28:33", "start": "02:28:27", "text": "descend immediately. Acknowledge."}, {"end": "02:28:36", "start": "02:28:30", "text": ">> Groom Lake, you're flying over Area 51."}, {"end": "02:28:38", "start": "02:28:33", "text": ">> Also, a balloon. Really? Do you know how"}, {"end": "02:28:40", "start": "02:28:36", "text": "ridiculous you look on radar? You know"}, {"end": "02:28:40", "start": "02:28:38", "text": "there are easier ways to get arrested,"}, {"end": "02:28:43", "start": "02:28:40", "text": "right?"}, {"end": "02:28:45", "start": "02:28:40", "text": ">> Okay. Okay. Take it easy with the jokes."}, {"end": "02:28:48", "start": "02:28:43", "text": "Viper 21. Sheesh. Everybody thinks they"}, {"end": "02:28:48", "start": "02:28:45", "text": "could do comedy. I'm still waiting for"}, {"end": "02:28:50", "start": "02:28:48", "text": "something."}, {"end": "02:28:52", "start": "02:28:48", "text": ">> All right, let me go before Captain"}, {"end": "02:28:52", "start": "02:28:50", "text": "Comedy over there starts doing his tight"}, {"end": "02:28:54", "start": "02:28:52", "text": "five."}, {"end": "02:28:55", "start": "02:28:52", "text": ">> You know this is an open channel, right,"}, {"end": "02:28:58", "start": "02:28:54", "text": "Balloon Boy?"}, {"end": "02:29:01", "start": "02:28:55", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Got to go."}, {"end": "02:29:03", "start": "02:28:58", "text": ">> Next episode can't be debunked. It's one"}, {"end": "02:29:07", "start": "02:29:01", "text": "of the scariest UFO stories I ever"}, {"end": "02:29:09", "start": "02:29:03", "text": "covered and it's from Brazil. The UFO"}, {"end": "02:29:11", "start": "02:29:07", "text": "stories in other countries, I don't"}, {"end": "02:29:13", "start": "02:29:09", "text": "think get enough coverage here because"}, {"end": "02:29:14", "start": "02:29:11", "text": "we're Americans and we tend to be"}, {"end": "02:29:17", "start": "02:29:13", "text": "focused on ourselves. That's only"}, {"end": "02:29:20", "start": "02:29:14", "text": "natural. But Brazil has some of the best"}, {"end": "02:29:22", "start": "02:29:17", "text": "UFO stories around. And this one coming"}, {"end": "02:29:25", "start": "02:29:20", "text": "up is one of the better ones. Maybe the"}, {"end": "02:29:29", "start": "02:29:22", "text": "best one because it happened for sure."}, {"end": "02:29:29", "start": "02:29:25", "text": "This is Operation Praau."}, {"end": "02:29:34", "start": "02:29:30", "text": "In the late 1970s, all across South"}, {"end": "02:29:36", "start": "02:29:32", "text": "America, farmers were finding their"}, {"end": "02:29:39", "start": "02:29:34", "text": "animals mutilated."}, {"end": "02:29:41", "start": "02:29:36", "text": "The wounds were precise. Surgical cuts,"}, {"end": "02:29:43", "start": "02:29:39", "text": "puncture holes, and burns. Major organs"}, {"end": "02:29:45", "start": "02:29:41", "text": "were missing. The bodies were drained of"}, {"end": "02:29:48", "start": "02:29:43", "text": "blood."}, {"end": "02:29:50", "start": "02:29:45", "text": "Something was terrorizing the continent."}, {"end": "02:29:54", "start": "02:29:48", "text": "But on a remote Brazilian island called"}, {"end": "02:29:56", "start": "02:29:50", "text": "Kades, the pattern changed."}, {"end": "02:29:58", "start": "02:29:54", "text": "Three things made the Coladius animal"}, {"end": "02:30:00", "start": "02:29:56", "text": "attacks unique. One, there were"}, {"end": "02:30:04", "start": "02:29:58", "text": "witnesses. Two, there were pictures. And"}, {"end": "02:30:11", "start": "02:30:00", "text": "three, the animals were people."}, {"end": "02:30:14", "start": "02:30:04", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "02:30:16", "start": "02:30:11", "text": "Dr. Reliad Carvalo stared at the burns"}, {"end": "02:30:19", "start": "02:30:14", "text": "on her patient's chest. Perfect circles,"}, {"end": "02:30:21", "start": "02:30:16", "text": "burned tissue. Inside each circle,"}, {"end": "02:30:24", "start": "02:30:19", "text": "puncture marks grouped together like"}, {"end": "02:30:26", "start": "02:30:21", "text": "needle holes. After 6 months as Colott's"}, {"end": "02:30:28", "start": "02:30:24", "text": "only doctor, Carvalo knew what to expect"}, {"end": "02:30:31", "start": "02:30:26", "text": "on an island of 2,000 people. Farming"}, {"end": "02:30:33", "start": "02:30:28", "text": "accidents, fishing injuries, colds."}, {"end": "02:30:35", "start": "02:30:31", "text": "Animal bites were the most exotic cases"}, {"end": "02:30:36", "start": "02:30:33", "text": "she treated. She wasn't prepared for any"}, {"end": "02:30:38", "start": "02:30:35", "text": "of this."}, {"end": "02:30:39", "start": "02:30:36", "text": ">> More UFOs in Brazil."}, {"end": "02:30:41", "start": "02:30:38", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. Brazil has a lot of UFO"}, {"end": "02:30:43", "start": "02:30:39", "text": "activity. Maybe even more than the US."}, {"end": "02:30:45", "start": "02:30:41", "text": ">> Yeah, I guess there's more to Brazil"}, {"end": "02:30:46", "start": "02:30:43", "text": "than just barbecue and bikini waxes."}, {"end": "02:30:47", "start": "02:30:45", "text": ">> There is."}, {"end": "02:30:49", "start": "02:30:46", "text": ">> And booties."}, {"end": "02:30:51", "start": "02:30:47", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"end": "02:30:53", "start": "02:30:49", "text": "The fishermen saw them first. Bright"}, {"end": "02:30:55", "start": "02:30:51", "text": "objects shooting in and out of Moro Bay"}, {"end": "02:30:57", "start": "02:30:53", "text": "without disturbing the water. They raced"}, {"end": "02:30:59", "start": "02:30:55", "text": "across the sky and disappeared into the"}, {"end": "02:31:00", "start": "02:30:57", "text": "jungle. Local pilots saw them, too."}, {"end": "02:31:03", "start": "02:30:59", "text": "Their instruments failed whenever the"}, {"end": "02:31:06", "start": "02:31:00", "text": "objects appeared. Some described"}, {"end": "02:31:08", "start": "02:31:03", "text": "cylinders. Others saw cones or discs."}, {"end": "02:31:11", "start": "02:31:06", "text": "All were bright. Within weeks, more UFOs"}, {"end": "02:31:14", "start": "02:31:08", "text": "appeared. At first, just sightings. Then"}, {"end": "02:31:16", "start": "02:31:11", "text": "the phenomenon became more interactive."}, {"end": "02:31:18", "start": "02:31:14", "text": "The UFOs waged an all-out assault on the"}, {"end": "02:31:20", "start": "02:31:16", "text": "island."}, {"end": "02:31:23", "start": "02:31:18", "text": "Dr. Carvalo's 40th patient lay before"}, {"end": "02:31:26", "start": "02:31:20", "text": "her. All victims had similar injuries,"}, {"end": "02:31:28", "start": "02:31:23", "text": "burns, incisions, punctures. Most were"}, {"end": "02:31:30", "start": "02:31:26", "text": "women. Most attacks happened at night."}, {"end": "02:31:33", "start": "02:31:28", "text": "Their stories sounded crazy, but were"}, {"end": "02:31:36", "start": "02:31:30", "text": "identical. It always started with the"}, {"end": "02:31:38", "start": "02:31:33", "text": "ceiling glowing orange."}, {"end": "02:31:40", "start": "02:31:36", "text": "One victim described it like a cigar"}, {"end": "02:31:42", "start": "02:31:38", "text": "held to paper. The light intensified."}, {"end": "02:31:44", "start": "02:31:40", "text": "Then a hole opened in the ceiling."}, {"end": "02:31:46", "start": "02:31:42", "text": "Victims could see stars through it."}, {"end": "02:31:46", "start": "02:31:44", "text": ">> The alien ray guns burned through the"}, {"end": "02:31:48", "start": "02:31:46", "text": "roof."}, {"end": "02:31:49", "start": "02:31:46", "text": ">> No. People said the ceiling started to"}, {"end": "02:31:51", "start": "02:31:48", "text": "shimmer and then they could see through"}, {"end": "02:31:52", "start": "02:31:49", "text": "the opening, but it was wavy like"}, {"end": "02:31:54", "start": "02:31:51", "text": "looking through water."}, {"end": "02:31:56", "start": "02:31:52", "text": ">> Ah, phase shifting technology."}, {"end": "02:31:58", "start": "02:31:54", "text": ">> Probably."}, {"end": "02:32:00", "start": "02:31:56", "text": "Next, colored lights would hit parts of"}, {"end": "02:32:03", "start": "02:31:58", "text": "their body, usually the left side of"}, {"end": "02:32:06", "start": "02:32:00", "text": "their chest. Then paralysis, complete"}, {"end": "02:32:08", "start": "02:32:03", "text": "immobility. They couldn't even scream."}, {"end": "02:32:10", "start": "02:32:06", "text": "They felt blood being drained from their"}, {"end": "02:32:15", "start": "02:32:08", "text": "bodies. They gave the lights a name."}, {"end": "02:32:15", "start": "02:32:10", "text": "Chupa Chupa. Blood suckers."}, {"end": "02:32:22", "start": "02:32:19", "text": "When people told Dr. Carvalo they felt"}, {"end": "02:32:24", "start": "02:32:21", "text": "blood being sucked from their bodies by"}, {"end": "02:32:27", "start": "02:32:22", "text": "beams of light, she dismissed it as"}, {"end": "02:32:29", "start": "02:32:24", "text": "trauma, but blood tests confirmed it."}, {"end": "02:32:33", "start": "02:32:27", "text": "Every victim had low blood counts, even"}, {"end": "02:32:35", "start": "02:32:29", "text": "without traces of bleeding."}, {"end": "02:32:37", "start": "02:32:33", "text": "Whatever was doing this wasn't using any"}, {"end": "02:32:39", "start": "02:32:35", "text": "medical tool Dr. Carvalo recognized. She"}, {"end": "02:32:41", "start": "02:32:37", "text": "took patients to BM, a city 2 hours"}, {"end": "02:32:44", "start": "02:32:39", "text": "away. Doctors there were equally"}, {"end": "02:32:47", "start": "02:32:41", "text": "baffled. The burns appeared in seconds,"}, {"end": "02:32:48", "start": "02:32:44", "text": "but took weeks to heal. Brain scans"}, {"end": "02:32:51", "start": "02:32:47", "text": "showed unusual activity patterns no one"}, {"end": "02:32:53", "start": "02:32:48", "text": "could explain. Half the residents fled"}, {"end": "02:32:55", "start": "02:32:51", "text": "the island. Those who stayed lit"}, {"end": "02:32:58", "start": "02:32:53", "text": "bonfires. They set off fireworks."}, {"end": "02:33:00", "start": "02:32:55", "text": ">> Bonfires and fireworks. Oh, they were"}, {"end": "02:33:02", "start": "02:32:58", "text": "celebrating the arrival of the new alien"}, {"end": "02:33:02", "start": "02:33:00", "text": "overlords. No, they were trying to scare"}, {"end": "02:33:04", "start": "02:33:02", "text": "them off."}, {"end": "02:33:06", "start": "02:33:02", "text": ">> If you can shoot laser beams through"}, {"end": "02:33:07", "start": "02:33:04", "text": "invisible roof holes, you're probably"}, {"end": "02:33:09", "start": "02:33:06", "text": "not going to flinch at a few bottle"}, {"end": "02:33:11", "start": "02:33:07", "text": "rockets or roaming candles."}, {"end": "02:33:12", "start": "02:33:09", "text": ">> The lights weren't afraid. They even"}, {"end": "02:33:14", "start": "02:33:11", "text": "shot at them with hunting rifles."}, {"end": "02:33:16", "start": "02:33:12", "text": "Nothing worked."}, {"end": "02:33:19", "start": "02:33:14", "text": "After treating strange injuries all"}, {"end": "02:33:21", "start": "02:33:16", "text": "night, Dr. Carvalo got a call from BM."}, {"end": "02:33:24", "start": "02:33:19", "text": "Two of her patients had died. Official"}, {"end": "02:33:26", "start": "02:33:21", "text": "cause unknown. She begged local"}, {"end": "02:33:28", "start": "02:33:24", "text": "authorities for help, but they were"}, {"end": "02:33:30", "start": "02:33:26", "text": "overwhelmed. Police increased patrols."}, {"end": "02:33:33", "start": "02:33:28", "text": "The lights kept coming. The island"}, {"end": "02:33:35", "start": "02:33:30", "text": "transformed into a prison of fear."}, {"end": "02:33:36", "start": "02:33:33", "text": "Fishermen refused to go out. Farmers"}, {"end": "02:33:37", "start": "02:33:35", "text": "abandoned their fields. The economy"}, {"end": "02:33:39", "start": "02:33:36", "text": "collapsed."}, {"end": "02:33:41", "start": "02:33:37", "text": ">> Yeah, you know, it is hard in the"}, {"end": "02:33:41", "start": "02:33:39", "text": "economy when people can't go to work."}, {"end": "02:33:43", "start": "02:33:41", "text": ">> It is."}, {"end": "02:33:45", "start": "02:33:41", "text": ">> Well, at least on this island, they"}, {"end": "02:33:47", "start": "02:33:43", "text": "chose to stay home. I imagine if the"}, {"end": "02:33:48", "start": "02:33:45", "text": "government forced you to close your"}, {"end": "02:33:49", "start": "02:33:47", "text": "business. Devastating."}, {"end": "02:33:51", "start": "02:33:48", "text": ">> Okay, I see what"}, {"end": "02:33:54", "start": "02:33:49", "text": ">> I imagine what would happen to the"}, {"end": "02:33:57", "start": "02:33:51", "text": "economy if you shut it down for 2 years."}, {"end": "02:33:58", "start": "02:33:54", "text": "Mama, that would be devastating and"}, {"end": "02:34:00", "start": "02:33:57", "text": "unconstitutional."}, {"end": "02:34:01", "start": "02:33:58", "text": ">> Now is not the time. to flatten the"}, {"end": "02:34:03", "start": "02:34:00", "text": "curve of my dorsal fin."}, {"end": "02:34:05", "start": "02:34:01", "text": ">> You got that out of your system?"}, {"end": "02:34:07", "start": "02:34:03", "text": ">> Sorry, sorry, sorry. I got triggered."}, {"end": "02:34:09", "start": "02:34:05", "text": "Uh, go ahead. What happened next?"}, {"end": "02:34:11", "start": "02:34:07", "text": ">> The mayor finally called the Air Force."}, {"end": "02:34:14", "start": "02:34:09", "text": "His island was under attack. People were"}, {"end": "02:34:16", "start": "02:34:11", "text": "hurt. Two were dead. He was put on hold."}, {"end": "02:34:18", "start": "02:34:14", "text": "And a different voice picked up. He"}, {"end": "02:34:20", "start": "02:34:16", "text": "asked if victims had experienced blood"}, {"end": "02:34:22", "start": "02:34:18", "text": "loss or tissue damage, like burns or"}, {"end": "02:34:25", "start": "02:34:20", "text": "punctures. When the mayor confirmed,"}, {"end": "02:34:27", "start": "02:34:22", "text": "they promised to send investigators."}, {"end": "02:34:29", "start": "02:34:25", "text": "The mayor exploded. He didn't want"}, {"end": "02:34:30", "start": "02:34:27", "text": "investigators. He wanted fighter jets,"}, {"end": "02:34:33", "start": "02:34:29", "text": "missiles. He wanted these things"}, {"end": "02:34:35", "start": "02:34:30", "text": "destroyed. The Air Force officer was not"}, {"end": "02:34:37", "start": "02:34:33", "text": "surprised at the mayor's description. He"}, {"end": "02:34:39", "start": "02:34:35", "text": "had heard it all before. A special unit"}, {"end": "02:34:44", "start": "02:34:37", "text": "arrived the next day. Except they didn't"}, {"end": "02:34:44", "start": "02:34:39", "text": "bring weapons. They brought cameras."}, {"end": "02:34:50", "start": "02:34:47", "text": "Captain Oland's Air Force team arrived"}, {"end": "02:34:53", "start": "02:34:49", "text": "with sophisticated equipment,"}, {"end": "02:34:55", "start": "02:34:50", "text": "telescopes, infrared sensors, high-speed"}, {"end": "02:34:57", "start": "02:34:53", "text": "cameras. They set up observation posts"}, {"end": "02:35:00", "start": "02:34:55", "text": "along the beach, working rotating shifts"}, {"end": "02:35:02", "start": "02:34:57", "text": "to document every incident. The military"}, {"end": "02:35:05", "start": "02:35:00", "text": "told local media this was a routine"}, {"end": "02:35:07", "start": "02:35:02", "text": "investigation. The talk of UFOs were"}, {"end": "02:35:09", "start": "02:35:05", "text": "rumors. There were no flying saucers."}, {"end": "02:35:10", "start": "02:35:07", "text": "The lights were probably birds or"}, {"end": "02:35:12", "start": "02:35:09", "text": "planes,"}, {"end": "02:35:14", "start": "02:35:10", "text": ">> satellites, weather balloons, swamp gas,"}, {"end": "02:35:16", "start": "02:35:12", "text": ">> right? The Air Force said they weren't"}, {"end": "02:35:18", "start": "02:35:14", "text": "looking for UFOs. They were just there"}, {"end": "02:35:20", "start": "02:35:16", "text": "to secure the island. But if they"}, {"end": "02:35:23", "start": "02:35:18", "text": "weren't looking for UFOs, why do they"}, {"end": "02:35:26", "start": "02:35:20", "text": "call this operation prauto?"}, {"end": "02:35:29", "start": "02:35:23", "text": "It's a Portuguese word for plate or a"}, {"end": "02:35:32", "start": "02:35:26", "text": "dish or saucer. Aland's orders were to"}, {"end": "02:35:34", "start": "02:35:29", "text": "debunk the story. Simple mass hysteria,"}, {"end": "02:35:35", "start": "02:35:32", "text": "he thought. Poor farmers and fishermen"}, {"end": "02:35:37", "start": "02:35:34", "text": "were seeing satellites or birds."}, {"end": "02:35:39", "start": "02:35:35", "text": ">> Oh yeah, you got to watch out for the"}, {"end": "02:35:42", "start": "02:35:37", "text": "laser beam shooting vampire birds in"}, {"end": "02:35:44", "start": "02:35:39", "text": "Brazil. They're very crafty."}, {"end": "02:35:46", "start": "02:35:42", "text": ">> Aland didn't know. The people on Coladus"}, {"end": "02:35:47", "start": "02:35:44", "text": "were poor and unsophisticated. This was"}, {"end": "02:35:51", "start": "02:35:46", "text": "probably a local legend being blown out"}, {"end": "02:35:53", "start": "02:35:47", "text": "of proportion. But then Aland's team saw"}, {"end": "02:35:55", "start": "02:35:51", "text": "the lights."}, {"end": "02:35:58", "start": "02:35:53", "text": "Night after night, objects performed"}, {"end": "02:35:59", "start": "02:35:55", "text": "impossible maneuvers. Ananda was an"}, {"end": "02:36:02", "start": "02:35:58", "text": "experienced pilot. He knew what planes"}, {"end": "02:36:04", "start": "02:35:59", "text": "could do. These weren't planes. The"}, {"end": "02:36:06", "start": "02:36:02", "text": "lights hovered silently, then"}, {"end": "02:36:08", "start": "02:36:04", "text": "accelerated faster than any aircraft"}, {"end": "02:36:10", "start": "02:36:06", "text": "he'd ever seen."}, {"end": "02:36:12", "start": "02:36:08", "text": "They tracked objects diving into Morajo"}, {"end": "02:36:15", "start": "02:36:10", "text": "Bay at high speed, making no splash,"}, {"end": "02:36:16", "start": "02:36:12", "text": "leaving no wake. Minutes later, the same"}, {"end": "02:36:19", "start": "02:36:15", "text": "object would appear over the jungle"}, {"end": "02:36:21", "start": "02:36:16", "text": "behind them. The team began to recognize"}, {"end": "02:36:22", "start": "02:36:19", "text": "patterns. The objects went from the"}, {"end": "02:36:25", "start": "02:36:21", "text": "water to the jungle, then to the"}, {"end": "02:36:27", "start": "02:36:22", "text": "villages. These lights were operated by"}, {"end": "02:36:29", "start": "02:36:25", "text": "something intelligent."}, {"end": "02:36:31", "start": "02:36:27", "text": "The attacks continued. Yolanda saw it"}, {"end": "02:36:33", "start": "02:36:29", "text": "with his own eyes. Women would try to"}, {"end": "02:36:36", "start": "02:36:31", "text": "hide, but the light followed them. Once"}, {"end": "02:36:38", "start": "02:36:33", "text": "hit, they were paralyzed. While the"}, {"end": "02:36:40", "start": "02:36:36", "text": "village was under attack, other lights"}, {"end": "02:36:43", "start": "02:36:38", "text": "hovered over Aland's team. He felt like"}, {"end": "02:36:45", "start": "02:36:40", "text": "they were being watched or guarded. He"}, {"end": "02:36:48", "start": "02:36:43", "text": "tested his theory and moved their camp."}, {"end": "02:36:50", "start": "02:36:45", "text": "The lights follow. As weeks passed, the"}, {"end": "02:36:52", "start": "02:36:48", "text": "evidence mounted. The team documented"}, {"end": "02:36:54", "start": "02:36:50", "text": "electromagnetic interference whenever"}, {"end": "02:36:56", "start": "02:36:52", "text": "the objects appeared. Their compasses"}, {"end": "02:36:58", "start": "02:36:54", "text": "spun wildly. Radio equipment failed."}, {"end": "02:37:01", "start": "02:36:56", "text": "Even the military sophisticated tracking"}, {"end": "02:37:04", "start": "02:36:58", "text": "devices malfunctioned. This was not mass"}, {"end": "02:37:06", "start": "02:37:01", "text": "hysteria. This was real."}, {"end": "02:37:09", "start": "02:37:04", "text": "After 4 months, Operation Saucer had"}, {"end": "02:37:11", "start": "02:37:06", "text": "assembled over 2,000 pages of documents"}, {"end": "02:37:12", "start": "02:37:09", "text": "and scientific data. Captain Aland"}, {"end": "02:37:15", "start": "02:37:11", "text": "believed they were close to"}, {"end": "02:37:17", "start": "02:37:12", "text": "understanding the phenomenon."}, {"end": "02:37:19", "start": "02:37:15", "text": "The team mapped the lights patterns,"}, {"end": "02:37:20", "start": "02:37:17", "text": "documented their capabilities, and even"}, {"end": "02:37:23", "start": "02:37:19", "text": "predicted their appearances with"}, {"end": "02:37:25", "start": "02:37:20", "text": "increasing accuracy. But these were"}, {"end": "02:37:28", "start": "02:37:23", "text": "still just lights. Not a single member"}, {"end": "02:37:31", "start": "02:37:25", "text": "of the team ever saw a solid craft. They"}, {"end": "02:37:32", "start": "02:37:28", "text": "took hundreds of photos and shot 16"}, {"end": "02:37:34", "start": "02:37:31", "text": "hours of film, but the results were"}, {"end": "02:37:37", "start": "02:37:32", "text": "frustrating. Distant red and yellow"}, {"end": "02:37:39", "start": "02:37:34", "text": "spheres. Most frames were overexposed"}, {"end": "02:37:42", "start": "02:37:37", "text": "and useless. When sent his reports to"}, {"end": "02:37:44", "start": "02:37:39", "text": "Regional Air Command, he told the truth."}, {"end": "02:37:46", "start": "02:37:42", "text": "Something strange was happening in"}, {"end": "02:37:48", "start": "02:37:44", "text": "Coladus. They just couldn't prove it."}, {"end": "02:37:51", "start": "02:37:46", "text": "The air force was not going to respond"}, {"end": "02:37:53", "start": "02:37:48", "text": "to lights in the sky. Not in 1977. This"}, {"end": "02:37:55", "start": "02:37:51", "text": "was the height of Operation Condor."}, {"end": "02:37:57", "start": "02:37:53", "text": "Brazilian military had to be careful."}, {"end": "02:37:59", "start": "02:37:55", "text": "The CIA was everywhere."}, {"end": "02:38:01", "start": "02:37:57", "text": ">> Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Uh, you just"}, {"end": "02:38:03", "start": "02:37:59", "text": "took a hard left turn and this ball"}, {"end": "02:38:05", "start": "02:38:01", "text": "doesn't have an old handle. Uh,"}, {"end": "02:38:06", "start": "02:38:03", "text": "what do American spooks have to do with"}, {"end": "02:38:09", "start": "02:38:05", "text": "this?"}, {"end": "02:38:10", "start": "02:38:06", "text": "Operation Condor was a secret alliance"}, {"end": "02:38:12", "start": "02:38:09", "text": "of military dictatorships in South"}, {"end": "02:38:14", "start": "02:38:10", "text": "America designed to crush political"}, {"end": "02:38:16", "start": "02:38:12", "text": "opposition. Brazil's government was deep"}, {"end": "02:38:19", "start": "02:38:14", "text": "in it. They were sharing intelligence"}, {"end": "02:38:20", "start": "02:38:16", "text": "with Argentina, Chile, and Paraguay."}, {"end": "02:38:22", "start": "02:38:19", "text": "They worked together on covert"}, {"end": "02:38:24", "start": "02:38:20", "text": "operations like coups and"}, {"end": "02:38:25", "start": "02:38:22", "text": "assassinations, all paid for by"}, {"end": "02:38:28", "start": "02:38:24", "text": ">> the CIA,"}, {"end": "02:38:29", "start": "02:38:25", "text": ">> right? The lights might be a classified"}, {"end": "02:38:31", "start": "02:38:28", "text": "American operation. Oh,"}, {"end": "02:38:33", "start": "02:38:29", "text": ">> you mean like flying drones around"}, {"end": "02:38:33", "start": "02:38:31", "text": "military bases and pretending you don't"}, {"end": "02:38:34", "start": "02:38:33", "text": "know what they are?"}, {"end": "02:38:36", "start": "02:38:33", "text": ">> Kind of like that. Yeah."}, {"end": "02:38:37", "start": "02:38:34", "text": ">> Uh-huh."}, {"end": "02:38:40", "start": "02:38:36", "text": "If the Brazilian Air Force took out an"}, {"end": "02:38:43", "start": "02:38:37", "text": "American asset and disrupted a CIA op,"}, {"end": "02:38:45", "start": "02:38:40", "text": "the consequences would be severe. Oland"}, {"end": "02:38:48", "start": "02:38:43", "text": "needed hard evidence. He had nothing,"}, {"end": "02:38:49", "start": "02:38:45", "text": "just hundreds of images of pure white."}, {"end": "02:38:51", "start": "02:38:48", "text": "One night, he was sitting in his office"}, {"end": "02:38:53", "start": "02:38:49", "text": "going through the photos, frustrated. He"}, {"end": "02:38:55", "start": "02:38:51", "text": "knew there had to be something there."}, {"end": "02:38:58", "start": "02:38:53", "text": "But whatever it was, the camera couldn't"}, {"end": "02:39:00", "start": "02:38:55", "text": "see it. But looked at the flashlight on"}, {"end": "02:39:02", "start": "02:38:58", "text": "his desk, then back at the white photo,"}, {"end": "02:39:06", "start": "02:39:00", "text": "then back at the flashlight. Captain"}, {"end": "02:39:06", "start": "02:39:02", "text": "Oland had an idea."}, {"end": "02:39:13", "start": "02:39:09", "text": "Captain Oland's team had sophisticated"}, {"end": "02:39:15", "start": "02:39:11", "text": "cameras, night vision devices, and"}, {"end": "02:39:17", "start": "02:39:13", "text": "state-of-the-art telescopes. Over 4"}, {"end": "02:39:19", "start": "02:39:15", "text": "months, they documented every strange"}, {"end": "02:39:21", "start": "02:39:17", "text": "light and unexplained object. But"}, {"end": "02:39:23", "start": "02:39:19", "text": "capturing proof was harder than they"}, {"end": "02:39:25", "start": "02:39:21", "text": "expected."}, {"end": "02:39:28", "start": "02:39:23", "text": "The team shot over 500 photographs and"}, {"end": "02:39:30", "start": "02:39:25", "text": "16 hours of film. Some showed only"}, {"end": "02:39:32", "start": "02:39:28", "text": "lights, distant, blurry spheres of red"}, {"end": "02:39:34", "start": "02:39:30", "text": "and yellow. Most frames were completely"}, {"end": "02:39:36", "start": "02:39:32", "text": "blown out, pure white."}, {"end": "02:39:38", "start": "02:39:34", "text": "As Captain Aanda examined one of these"}, {"end": "02:39:41", "start": "02:39:36", "text": "pictures, he saw the flashlight on his"}, {"end": "02:39:43", "start": "02:39:38", "text": "desk and had an idea. What if instead of"}, {"end": "02:39:45", "start": "02:39:41", "text": "examining the finished photograph, he"}, {"end": "02:39:47", "start": "02:39:43", "text": "examined the negative? He thought about"}, {"end": "02:39:49", "start": "02:39:45", "text": "how doctors hold X-rays up to a lighted"}, {"end": "02:39:50", "start": "02:39:47", "text": "board. He tried the same technique. He"}, {"end": "02:39:53", "start": "02:39:49", "text": "enlarged the negatives, which looked"}, {"end": "02:39:55", "start": "02:39:50", "text": "pure black, but they weren't. When held"}, {"end": "02:39:59", "start": "02:39:53", "text": "them up to a light, he saw the faint"}, {"end": "02:40:01", "start": "02:39:55", "text": "outline of an object. Captain Oland"}, {"end": "02:40:02", "start": "02:39:59", "text": "asked Milton Mendula to join the team."}, {"end": "02:40:04", "start": "02:40:01", "text": "Mendoza was a filmmaker and"}, {"end": "02:40:06", "start": "02:40:02", "text": "photographer, but he was also a sergeant"}, {"end": "02:40:09", "start": "02:40:04", "text": "and a trusted friend."}, {"end": "02:40:11", "start": "02:40:06", "text": "Mendoza brought special ultraviolet film"}, {"end": "02:40:12", "start": "02:40:09", "text": "and showed the team a new technique."}, {"end": "02:40:14", "start": "02:40:11", "text": "Instead of trying to photograph the"}, {"end": "02:40:16", "start": "02:40:12", "text": "lights directly, they focused on"}, {"end": "02:40:19", "start": "02:40:14", "text": "capturing the solid shapes hidden within"}, {"end": "02:40:21", "start": "02:40:16", "text": "them. It worked. The new photos revealed"}, {"end": "02:40:23", "start": "02:40:19", "text": "cylindrical objects with black bands"}, {"end": "02:40:26", "start": "02:40:21", "text": "along their holes. Some were over 300 ft"}, {"end": "02:40:28", "start": "02:40:23", "text": "long, bigger than a 747. The objects"}, {"end": "02:40:30", "start": "02:40:26", "text": "moved in formation, even when diving"}, {"end": "02:40:33", "start": "02:40:28", "text": "into Moro Bay, always without making a"}, {"end": "02:40:35", "start": "02:40:30", "text": "sound. The cameras also caught smaller"}, {"end": "02:40:37", "start": "02:40:33", "text": "probes being released from what team"}, {"end": "02:40:39", "start": "02:40:35", "text": "called mother ships. These probes would"}, {"end": "02:40:40", "start": "02:40:37", "text": "return to the larger craft after"}, {"end": "02:40:42", "start": "02:40:39", "text": "conducting what seemed to be"}, {"end": "02:40:45", "start": "02:40:40", "text": "surveillance missions."}, {"end": "02:40:47", "start": "02:40:42", "text": "By December 1977, the team had"}, {"end": "02:40:49", "start": "02:40:45", "text": "documented enough evidence to prove"}, {"end": "02:40:51", "start": "02:40:47", "text": "these objects were real. Captain Aland"}, {"end": "02:40:53", "start": "02:40:49", "text": "sent the evidence to Regional Air"}, {"end": "02:40:54", "start": "02:40:51", "text": "Command. He immediately received a call"}, {"end": "02:40:56", "start": "02:40:53", "text": "from a brigadier general with new"}, {"end": "02:40:58", "start": "02:40:54", "text": "orders."}, {"end": "02:41:00", "start": "02:40:56", "text": "Surrender all photos, footage, and"}, {"end": "02:41:02", "start": "02:40:58", "text": "documents. All findings, and reports"}, {"end": "02:41:05", "start": "02:41:00", "text": "were to be classified. Shut everything"}, {"end": "02:41:07", "start": "02:41:02", "text": "down. The team was surprised. They were"}, {"end": "02:41:09", "start": "02:41:05", "text": "finally making progress. But Captain"}, {"end": "02:41:11", "start": "02:41:07", "text": "Oland followed orders. They packed up"}, {"end": "02:41:13", "start": "02:41:09", "text": "camp and returned to base. Operation"}, {"end": "02:41:15", "start": "02:41:11", "text": "Saucer was over."}, {"end": "02:41:17", "start": "02:41:13", "text": "Oland believed the Brazilian government"}, {"end": "02:41:19", "start": "02:41:15", "text": "shut them down because they didn't want"}, {"end": "02:41:22", "start": "02:41:17", "text": "them to find out who or what was"}, {"end": "02:41:27", "start": "02:41:19", "text": "controlling the UFOs, but it was too"}, {"end": "02:41:27", "start": "02:41:22", "text": "late. Captain Oland already knew."}, {"end": "02:41:33", "start": "02:41:29", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "02:41:35", "start": "02:41:31", "text": "Soon after the military left Kades, the"}, {"end": "02:41:37", "start": "02:41:33", "text": "UFO encounters ended. The Air Force's"}, {"end": "02:41:39", "start": "02:41:35", "text": "official statement, nothing"}, {"end": "02:41:40", "start": "02:41:37", "text": "extraordinary was found. Back in"}, {"end": "02:41:43", "start": "02:41:39", "text": "Colades, the story faded into local"}, {"end": "02:41:45", "start": "02:41:40", "text": "legend. But in 1996, Brazil made"}, {"end": "02:41:46", "start": "02:41:43", "text": "headlines with another UFO incident in"}, {"end": "02:41:48", "start": "02:41:45", "text": "Virginia."}, {"end": "02:41:49", "start": "02:41:46", "text": ">> Virginia episode down in your probe"}, {"end": "02:41:50", "start": "02:41:48", "text": "canal."}, {"end": "02:41:51", "start": "02:41:49", "text": ">> Virginia."}, {"end": "02:41:53", "start": "02:41:50", "text": ">> What' I say?"}, {"end": "02:41:55", "start": "02:41:51", "text": ">> The public wanted answers. For 20 years,"}, {"end": "02:41:58", "start": "02:41:53", "text": "Captain Oland kept silent about Colis."}, {"end": "02:42:00", "start": "02:41:55", "text": "Then in 1997, now a retired Lieutenant"}, {"end": "02:42:03", "start": "02:41:58", "text": "Colonel, he decided the truth had to"}, {"end": "02:42:06", "start": "02:42:00", "text": "come out. For 2 days, Oland spoke with"}, {"end": "02:42:08", "start": "02:42:03", "text": "AJ of Brazilian UFO magazine. His memory"}, {"end": "02:42:10", "start": "02:42:06", "text": "was sharp. But something had changed in"}, {"end": "02:42:12", "start": "02:42:08", "text": "the captain. The confident military"}, {"end": "02:42:15", "start": "02:42:10", "text": "commander was gone, replaced by a man"}, {"end": "02:42:17", "start": "02:42:12", "text": "haunted by what he'd seen."}, {"end": "02:42:19", "start": "02:42:15", "text": "He described three encounters with the"}, {"end": "02:42:21", "start": "02:42:17", "text": "objects. The first happened during a"}, {"end": "02:42:23", "start": "02:42:19", "text": "routine night watch. A light appeared"}, {"end": "02:42:25", "start": "02:42:21", "text": "over Maro Bay performing impossible"}, {"end": "02:42:28", "start": "02:42:23", "text": "maneuvers. The object was cylindrical"}, {"end": "02:42:31", "start": "02:42:25", "text": "about 100 meters long and made a strange"}, {"end": "02:42:31", "start": "02:42:28", "text": "hum."}, {"end": "02:42:49", "start": "02:42:45", "text": "The second encounter occurred on the"}, {"end": "02:42:52", "start": "02:42:47", "text": "beach. A craft appeared directly above"}, {"end": "02:42:52", "start": "02:42:49", "text": "his team."}, {"end": "02:43:22", "start": "02:43:18", "text": "The object was close enough that could"}, {"end": "02:43:24", "start": "02:43:20", "text": "see it wasn't made of any material he"}, {"end": "02:43:26", "start": "02:43:22", "text": "recognized. The surface seemed to shift"}, {"end": "02:43:28", "start": "02:43:24", "text": "and flow like liquid metal. At this"}, {"end": "02:43:30", "start": "02:43:26", "text": "point, realized the objects were aware"}, {"end": "02:43:33", "start": "02:43:28", "text": "of them and were being operated by an"}, {"end": "02:43:33", "start": "02:43:30", "text": "intelligence."}, {"end": "02:43:47", "start": "02:43:42", "text": "for"}, {"end": "02:43:47", "start": "02:43:44", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "02:44:00", "start": "02:43:56", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "02:44:08", "start": "02:44:03", "text": "Operation Saucer lasted 4 months. During"}, {"end": "02:44:10", "start": "02:44:06", "text": "this time, Oland sometimes went home to"}, {"end": "02:44:12", "start": "02:44:08", "text": "see his family. During one of these"}, {"end": "02:44:14", "start": "02:44:10", "text": "visits in his own home, he had a"}, {"end": "02:44:16", "start": "02:44:12", "text": "life-changing"}, {"end": "02:44:19", "start": "02:44:14", "text": "incident."}, {"end": "02:44:19", "start": "02:44:16", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "02:44:24", "start": "02:44:20", "text": ">> Late one night, he was in bed when he"}, {"end": "02:44:27", "start": "02:44:22", "text": "heard a crack, like an electrical power"}, {"end": "02:44:27", "start": "02:44:24", "text": "surge."}, {"end": "02:44:40", "start": "02:44:36", "text": "After the flash of light, Alando found"}, {"end": "02:44:45", "start": "02:44:38", "text": "himself standing up paralyzed with fear."}, {"end": "02:44:45", "start": "02:44:40", "text": "He felt a presence behind him."}, {"end": "02:44:56", "start": "02:44:52", "text": "Did he get uh uh probed?"}, {"end": "02:44:58", "start": "02:44:55", "text": ">> Not exactly."}, {"end": "02:44:59", "start": "02:44:56", "text": ">> That is not a good answer to that"}, {"end": "02:45:01", "start": "02:44:58", "text": "question."}, {"end": "02:45:03", "start": "02:44:59", "text": ">> While Oland was restrained, he saw"}, {"end": "02:45:05", "start": "02:45:01", "text": "another being at the end of his bed. It"}, {"end": "02:45:07", "start": "02:45:03", "text": "was just under 5t tall and dressed in a"}, {"end": "02:45:09", "start": "02:45:05", "text": "suit that reminded him of an astronaut"}, {"end": "02:45:12", "start": "02:45:07", "text": "or a diver. He didn't see its face, only"}, {"end": "02:45:12", "start": "02:45:09", "text": "a gray mask."}, {"end": "02:45:25", "start": "02:45:20", "text": "Oh no, this isn't going to turn into"}, {"end": "02:45:25", "start": "02:45:22", "text": "alien eratica like from a Gino story, is"}, {"end": "02:45:26", "start": "02:45:25", "text": "it?"}, {"end": "02:45:31", "start": "02:45:25", "text": ">> Will you let the man speak?"}, {"end": "02:45:31", "start": "02:45:26", "text": ">> No, I'm not judging. I'm just asking."}, {"end": "02:45:44", "start": "02:45:40", "text": ">> Another crack, another flash of light,"}, {"end": "02:45:46", "start": "02:45:42", "text": "and it was over. His wife slept through"}, {"end": "02:45:49", "start": "02:45:44", "text": "the whole thing. Blond thought it was a"}, {"end": "02:45:52", "start": "02:45:46", "text": "dream, but the next day driving back to"}, {"end": "02:45:54", "start": "02:45:49", "text": "the operation, his forearm felt itchy."}, {"end": "02:45:54", "start": "02:45:52", "text": "He noticed it was red."}, {"end": "02:45:57", "start": "02:45:54", "text": ">> Implant."}, {"end": "02:45:59", "start": "02:45:54", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"end": "02:46:01", "start": "02:45:57", "text": "During his interview, Aland rolled up"}, {"end": "02:46:03", "start": "02:45:59", "text": "his sleeve and pressed his forearm."}, {"end": "02:46:06", "start": "02:46:01", "text": "Something moved under the skin. A small"}, {"end": "02:46:09", "start": "02:46:03", "text": "flexible object. X-rays couldn't detect"}, {"end": "02:46:10", "start": "02:46:06", "text": "it, but a compass could. Ja asked what"}, {"end": "02:46:13", "start": "02:46:09", "text": "happened to all the photos and the"}, {"end": "02:46:14", "start": "02:46:10", "text": "documentation of Operation Saucer."}, {"end": "02:46:16", "start": "02:46:13", "text": "Aland said he didn't know. The"}, {"end": "02:46:18", "start": "02:46:14", "text": "government denied everything and the"}, {"end": "02:46:20", "start": "02:46:16", "text": "operation was classified. He was ordered"}, {"end": "02:46:23", "start": "02:46:18", "text": "to stay silent and he obeyed for 20"}, {"end": "02:46:25", "start": "02:46:20", "text": "years. So why speak now? Well, he felt"}, {"end": "02:46:29", "start": "02:46:23", "text": "the duty to tell the truth before he"}, {"end": "02:46:29", "start": "02:46:25", "text": "died or"}, {"end": "02:46:41", "start": "02:46:38", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "02:46:52", "start": "02:46:47", "text": "Oland's concern about disappearing"}, {"end": "02:46:54", "start": "02:46:49", "text": "seemed strange. But just weeks after"}, {"end": "02:46:56", "start": "02:46:52", "text": "giving this interview"}, {"end": "02:46:56", "start": "02:46:54", "text": ">> before the article was even published,"}, {"end": "02:46:59", "start": "02:46:56", "text": ">> oh no,"}, {"end": "02:47:02", "start": "02:46:56", "text": ">> he was found dead in his apartment. He"}, {"end": "02:47:06", "start": "02:46:59", "text": "apparently hung himself using the belt"}, {"end": "02:47:06", "start": "02:47:02", "text": "of his bathroom. Yeah."}, {"end": "02:47:14", "start": "02:47:10", "text": "The Brazilian government kept Operation"}, {"end": "02:47:17", "start": "02:47:12", "text": "Prauto classified for over 20 years."}, {"end": "02:47:19", "start": "02:47:14", "text": "Then in 1997, the officer in charge came"}, {"end": "02:47:21", "start": "02:47:17", "text": "forward. Less than 2 months later, he"}, {"end": "02:47:23", "start": "02:47:19", "text": "was dead."}, {"end": "02:47:25", "start": "02:47:21", "text": "Wolanda's death seemed too convenient."}, {"end": "02:47:27", "start": "02:47:23", "text": "Brazilian UFO researchers launched a"}, {"end": "02:47:29", "start": "02:47:25", "text": "campaign called Freedom of UFO"}, {"end": "02:47:32", "start": "02:47:27", "text": "Information Now. They demanded the"}, {"end": "02:47:35", "start": "02:47:29", "text": "release of all Operation Saucer Files."}, {"end": "02:47:37", "start": "02:47:32", "text": "The Air Force resisted, but by 2005,"}, {"end": "02:47:39", "start": "02:47:35", "text": "under public pressure, three generals"}, {"end": "02:47:41", "start": "02:47:37", "text": "invited researchers to military"}, {"end": "02:47:43", "start": "02:47:39", "text": "headquarters in Brazilia. For the first"}, {"end": "02:47:45", "start": "02:47:41", "text": "time, civilian UFO investigators"}, {"end": "02:47:49", "start": "02:47:43", "text": "examined Operation Prat's classified"}, {"end": "02:47:52", "start": "02:47:45", "text": "files. They accessed 110 photographs and"}, {"end": "02:47:54", "start": "02:47:49", "text": "160 documents, a fraction of the total"}, {"end": "02:47:55", "start": "02:47:52", "text": "archive, but enough to confirm the"}, {"end": "02:47:57", "start": "02:47:54", "text": "extraordinary nature of the"}, {"end": "02:47:59", "start": "02:47:55", "text": "investigation. The Brazilian Air Force"}, {"end": "02:48:01", "start": "02:47:57", "text": "went further in 2010. They passed"}, {"end": "02:48:02", "start": "02:47:59", "text": "resolution 551GC3,"}, {"end": "02:48:04", "start": "02:48:01", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "02:48:07", "start": "02:48:02", "text": "a law requiring all UFO reports to be"}, {"end": "02:48:09", "start": "02:48:04", "text": "sent directly to the National Archives."}, {"end": "02:48:12", "start": "02:48:07", "text": "Any Brazilian citizen could now access"}, {"end": "02:48:14", "start": "02:48:09", "text": "decades of military UFO investigations."}, {"end": "02:48:15", "start": "02:48:12", "text": "Finally, a government was actively"}, {"end": "02:48:19", "start": "02:48:14", "text": "preserving its UFO records instead of"}, {"end": "02:48:22", "start": "02:48:15", "text": "destroying or classifying them. Mostly"}, {"end": "02:48:24", "start": "02:48:19", "text": "resolution 551GC3 has a carve out. The"}, {"end": "02:48:26", "start": "02:48:22", "text": "government can still classify documents"}, {"end": "02:48:28", "start": "02:48:24", "text": "if the release is considered a threat to"}, {"end": "02:48:29", "start": "02:48:26", "text": ">> national security."}, {"end": "02:48:32", "start": "02:48:28", "text": ">> Right."}, {"end": "02:48:34", "start": "02:48:29", "text": "The complete story remains hidden. The"}, {"end": "02:48:36", "start": "02:48:32", "text": "original operation files contained over"}, {"end": "02:48:38", "start": "02:48:34", "text": "500 photographs and 2,000 pages of"}, {"end": "02:48:40", "start": "02:48:36", "text": "documents. Only a fraction have been"}, {"end": "02:48:42", "start": "02:48:38", "text": "released. The hours of film footage"}, {"end": "02:48:44", "start": "02:48:40", "text": "Oland's team shot was never made public."}, {"end": "02:48:46", "start": "02:48:42", "text": "We still don't know the details of the"}, {"end": "02:48:48", "start": "02:48:44", "text": "two women who died. Some of Brazil's top"}, {"end": "02:48:50", "start": "02:48:46", "text": "military commanders want full"}, {"end": "02:48:52", "start": "02:48:48", "text": "disclosure. Brigadier General Jose"}, {"end": "02:48:54", "start": "02:48:50", "text": "Carlos Pereira, head of Brazilian"}, {"end": "02:48:56", "start": "02:48:52", "text": "Aerospace Defense Command for over 10"}, {"end": "02:48:59", "start": "02:48:54", "text": "years, publicly stated that UFOs were"}, {"end": "02:49:01", "start": "02:48:56", "text": "solid objects under intelligent control,"}, {"end": "02:49:02", "start": "02:48:59", "text": "but factions within the military were"}, {"end": "02:49:04", "start": "02:49:01", "text": "fighting to keep specific files"}, {"end": "02:49:06", "start": "02:49:02", "text": "classified."}, {"end": "02:49:08", "start": "02:49:04", "text": "There may be valid reasons governments"}, {"end": "02:49:10", "start": "02:49:06", "text": "don't fully disclose contact with"}, {"end": "02:49:13", "start": "02:49:08", "text": "extraterrestrials. Acknowledgement is"}, {"end": "02:49:14", "start": "02:49:10", "text": "announcement. It broadcasts to whoever's"}, {"end": "02:49:17", "start": "02:49:13", "text": "out there that we understand we're not"}, {"end": "02:49:19", "start": "02:49:14", "text": "alone in the universe. Some prominent"}, {"end": "02:49:24", "start": "02:49:17", "text": "scientists think revealing ourselves is"}, {"end": "02:49:24", "start": "02:49:19", "text": "a very, very bad idea."}, {"end": "02:49:30", "start": "02:49:25", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "02:49:32", "start": "02:49:29", "text": "This is usually the part of the story"}, {"end": "02:49:34", "start": "02:49:30", "text": "where I debunk what I can, but with"}, {"end": "02:49:36", "start": "02:49:32", "text": "Cladis, there's nothing to debunk. Now,"}, {"end": "02:49:39", "start": "02:49:34", "text": "maybe the attacks weren't from UFOs, but"}, {"end": "02:49:41", "start": "02:49:36", "text": "the fact is it happened. And then it"}, {"end": "02:49:43", "start": "02:49:39", "text": "happened again."}, {"end": "02:49:46", "start": "02:49:41", "text": "In 2014, another string of UFO attacks"}, {"end": "02:49:48", "start": "02:49:43", "text": "hit Brazil. This time, indigenous tribes"}, {"end": "02:49:50", "start": "02:49:46", "text": "deep in the Amazon. The same light"}, {"end": "02:49:52", "start": "02:49:48", "text": "beams, the same injuries. The methodical"}, {"end": "02:49:54", "start": "02:49:50", "text": "nature of these attacks suggests"}, {"end": "02:49:58", "start": "02:49:52", "text": "something calculated, not random"}, {"end": "02:50:00", "start": "02:49:54", "text": "encounters. These beings are on mission."}, {"end": "02:50:01", "start": "02:49:58", "text": "We just don't know what mission. Some"}, {"end": "02:50:03", "start": "02:50:00", "text": "scientists worry they're testing our"}, {"end": "02:50:06", "start": "02:50:01", "text": "defenses and technology. Now, if that's"}, {"end": "02:50:08", "start": "02:50:03", "text": "true, we might want to keep it quiet."}, {"end": "02:50:09", "start": "02:50:06", "text": "Stephven Hawking warned that an advanced"}, {"end": "02:50:11", "start": "02:50:08", "text": "civilization might view us like"}, {"end": "02:50:13", "start": "02:50:09", "text": "Europeans viewed Native Americans,"}, {"end": "02:50:15", "start": "02:50:11", "text": "primitives to be conquered or"}, {"end": "02:50:18", "start": "02:50:13", "text": "eliminated. Physicist David Brin"}, {"end": "02:50:20", "start": "02:50:15", "text": "suggested any civilization capable of"}, {"end": "02:50:23", "start": "02:50:18", "text": "interstellar travel would see emerging"}, {"end": "02:50:25", "start": "02:50:20", "text": "technological species as future rivals."}, {"end": "02:50:27", "start": "02:50:23", "text": "Better to eliminate them early. This"}, {"end": "02:50:29", "start": "02:50:25", "text": "became known as the dark forest"}, {"end": "02:50:33", "start": "02:50:27", "text": "hypothesis, named after Leosun's"}, {"end": "02:50:33", "start": "02:50:29", "text": "threebody problems."}, {"end": "02:50:39", "start": "02:50:34", "text": ">> The universe is a dark forest. Every"}, {"end": "02:50:41", "start": "02:50:36", "text": "civilization is an armed hunter stalking"}, {"end": "02:50:43", "start": "02:50:39", "text": "through the trees like a ghost, gently"}, {"end": "02:50:45", "start": "02:50:41", "text": "pushing aside branches that block the"}, {"end": "02:50:48", "start": "02:50:43", "text": "path and trying to tread without sound."}, {"end": "02:50:49", "start": "02:50:45", "text": "Even breathing is done with care. The"}, {"end": "02:50:51", "start": "02:50:48", "text": "hunter has to be careful because"}, {"end": "02:50:54", "start": "02:50:49", "text": "everywhere in the forest are stealthy"}, {"end": "02:50:56", "start": "02:50:51", "text": "hunters like him. Every civilization"}, {"end": "02:50:58", "start": "02:50:54", "text": "hides in the shadows facing the same"}, {"end": "02:51:00", "start": "02:50:56", "text": "problem. They don't know who else is out"}, {"end": "02:51:03", "start": "02:50:58", "text": "there. But they know two things."}, {"end": "02:51:05", "start": "02:51:00", "text": "Resources are limited and technology"}, {"end": "02:51:07", "start": "02:51:03", "text": "grows exponentially. Any civilization"}, {"end": "02:51:10", "start": "02:51:05", "text": "discovered today could become a threat"}, {"end": "02:51:10", "start": "02:51:07", "text": "tomorrow."}, {"end": "02:51:17", "start": "02:51:11", "text": ">> If he finds other life, another hunter,"}, {"end": "02:51:19", "start": "02:51:14", "text": "an angel or a demon, a delicate infant"}, {"end": "02:51:22", "start": "02:51:17", "text": "or a tottering old man, a fairy or a"}, {"end": "02:51:25", "start": "02:51:19", "text": "demigod, there's only one thing he can"}, {"end": "02:51:28", "start": "02:51:22", "text": "do. Open fire and eliminate them. In"}, {"end": "02:51:29", "start": "02:51:25", "text": "this forest, hell is other people. An"}, {"end": "02:51:31", "start": "02:51:28", "text": "eternal threat that any life that"}, {"end": "02:51:34", "start": "02:51:29", "text": "exposes its own existence will be"}, {"end": "02:51:36", "start": "02:51:31", "text": "swiftly wiped out. This is the picture"}, {"end": "02:51:39", "start": "02:51:34", "text": "of cosmic civilization. It's the"}, {"end": "02:51:41", "start": "02:51:36", "text": "explanation of the FMY paradox."}, {"end": "02:51:44", "start": "02:51:39", "text": ">> The Fermy paradox asks, \"If billions of"}, {"end": "02:51:46", "start": "02:51:41", "text": "advanced civilizations should exist,"}, {"end": "02:51:48", "start": "02:51:44", "text": "where is everybody?\" The answer, they're"}, {"end": "02:51:50", "start": "02:51:46", "text": "hiding."}, {"end": "02:51:52", "start": "02:51:48", "text": "The moment you reveal yourself, you"}, {"end": "02:51:54", "start": "02:51:50", "text": "become a target. Not because advanced"}, {"end": "02:51:56", "start": "02:51:52", "text": "civilizations are evil, but because they"}, {"end": "02:51:57", "start": "02:51:54", "text": "can't risk letting potential competitors"}, {"end": "02:51:59", "start": "02:51:56", "text": "emerge."}, {"end": "02:52:01", "start": "02:51:57", "text": "We don't know what these UFOs want. And"}, {"end": "02:52:03", "start": "02:51:59", "text": "given their technology, they could"}, {"end": "02:52:04", "start": "02:52:01", "text": "destroy us easily, but haven't. Does"}, {"end": "02:52:07", "start": "02:52:03", "text": "that mean they're friendly? Not"}, {"end": "02:52:09", "start": "02:52:04", "text": "necessarily. Maybe they just don't care."}, {"end": "02:52:11", "start": "02:52:07", "text": "We're not a threat. Like the aliens in"}, {"end": "02:52:13", "start": "02:52:09", "text": "the three-body problem. They may think"}, {"end": "02:52:15", "start": "02:52:11", "text": "of us as bugs. And like bugs, we can be"}, {"end": "02:52:18", "start": "02:52:13", "text": "annoying, but we're not really"}, {"end": "02:52:19", "start": "02:52:15", "text": "dangerous. But what happens when wasps"}, {"end": "02:52:21", "start": "02:52:18", "text": "build a nest in your attic and start"}, {"end": "02:52:24", "start": "02:52:19", "text": "stinging your children? You call an"}, {"end": "02:52:26", "start": "02:52:21", "text": "exterminator. Our radio waves, space"}, {"end": "02:52:28", "start": "02:52:24", "text": "programs, and attempts at alien contact"}, {"end": "02:52:30", "start": "02:52:26", "text": "are like lighting a flare in the dark"}, {"end": "02:52:32", "start": "02:52:28", "text": "forest. They might lead to a new alien"}, {"end": "02:52:34", "start": "02:52:30", "text": "race making first contact. A race that"}, {"end": "02:52:36", "start": "02:52:32", "text": "will do more than experiment on a small"}, {"end": "02:52:38", "start": "02:52:34", "text": "number of people."}, {"end": "02:52:41", "start": "02:52:36", "text": "Our government may have technology that"}, {"end": "02:52:43", "start": "02:52:38", "text": "aliens would view as threatening. And if"}, {"end": "02:52:45", "start": "02:52:41", "text": "it exists, it might be better to keep it"}, {"end": "02:52:47", "start": "02:52:43", "text": "a secret. But the decision shouldn't be"}, {"end": "02:52:49", "start": "02:52:45", "text": "up to the military alone. The military's"}, {"end": "02:52:51", "start": "02:52:47", "text": "job is to destroy things and kill"}, {"end": "02:52:54", "start": "02:52:49", "text": "people. And that's what they do. The"}, {"end": "02:52:56", "start": "02:52:51", "text": "military is necessary."}, {"end": "02:52:58", "start": "02:52:54", "text": "But we need to show humanity is capable"}, {"end": "02:53:00", "start": "02:52:56", "text": "of more than destruction. We need"}, {"end": "02:53:03", "start": "02:52:58", "text": "civilians involved, scientists,"}, {"end": "02:53:05", "start": "02:53:00", "text": "philosophers, theologians. We need our"}, {"end": "02:53:07", "start": "02:53:03", "text": "brightest minds and our most empathetic"}, {"end": "02:53:09", "start": "02:53:05", "text": "souls, people who represent the best of"}, {"end": "02:53:11", "start": "02:53:07", "text": "us."}, {"end": "02:53:13", "start": "02:53:09", "text": "Because when First contact is finally"}, {"end": "02:53:15", "start": "02:53:11", "text": "made, it'll either be the greatest"}, {"end": "02:53:17", "start": "02:53:13", "text": "achievement of the human race or the end"}, {"end": "02:53:22", "start": "02:53:15", "text": "of it. We need to make this decision"}, {"end": "02:53:22", "start": "02:53:17", "text": "now. And let's not get it wrong."}, {"end": "02:53:32", "start": "02:53:27", "text": "3 + 1 5 plus 0 0"}, {"end": "02:53:36", "start": "02:53:30", "text": ">> and there have been more sightings and"}, {"end": "02:53:38", "start": "02:53:32", "text": "attacks lately. And um I'm looking at my"}, {"end": "02:53:40", "start": "02:53:36", "text": "notes here because"}, {"end": "02:53:41", "start": "02:53:38", "text": "something's going on in the Amazon. And"}, {"end": "02:53:44", "start": "02:53:40", "text": "isn't it interesting that we keep"}, {"end": "02:53:46", "start": "02:53:41", "text": "discovering ancient cities and evidence"}, {"end": "02:53:49", "start": "02:53:44", "text": "of large civilizations buried by the"}, {"end": "02:53:50", "start": "02:53:46", "text": "jungle and that seems to be happening at"}, {"end": "02:53:53", "start": "02:53:49", "text": "the same time where we're having all"}, {"end": "02:53:54", "start": "02:53:50", "text": "these sightings. I don't know. I don't"}, {"end": "02:53:58", "start": "02:53:53", "text": "believe in coincidences. What do we got"}, {"end": "02:54:00", "start": "02:53:54", "text": "next? Episode 111. Staying with Brazil."}, {"end": "02:54:02", "start": "02:53:58", "text": "Again, these aliens are not friendly."}, {"end": "02:54:07", "start": "02:54:00", "text": "They are our victims in this story. This"}, {"end": "02:54:07", "start": "02:54:02", "text": "is called the Vargia incident."}, {"end": "02:54:13", "start": "02:54:08", "text": "The North American Air Defense Command,"}, {"end": "02:54:15", "start": "02:54:10", "text": "known as NORAD, was established in 1958."}, {"end": "02:54:17", "start": "02:54:13", "text": "It was to provide early warning and"}, {"end": "02:54:19", "start": "02:54:15", "text": "defense against Soviet bombers and"}, {"end": "02:54:21", "start": "02:54:17", "text": "missile launches. But it wasn't long"}, {"end": "02:54:23", "start": "02:54:19", "text": "before NORAD would be monitoring skies"}, {"end": "02:54:27", "start": "02:54:21", "text": "around the entire planet. Early in the"}, {"end": "02:54:29", "start": "02:54:23", "text": "morning on January 13th, 1996, NORAD"}, {"end": "02:54:31", "start": "02:54:27", "text": "contacted Brazilian Air Defense to"}, {"end": "02:54:34", "start": "02:54:29", "text": "report an object entering the Earth's"}, {"end": "02:54:36", "start": "02:54:31", "text": "atmosphere about 200 m northeast of Sao"}, {"end": "02:54:40", "start": "02:54:34", "text": "Paulo. When asked what type of object,"}, {"end": "02:54:42", "start": "02:54:36", "text": "NORAD said it was unidentified. A few"}, {"end": "02:54:44", "start": "02:54:40", "text": "minutes later, it crashed somewhere near"}, {"end": "02:54:47", "start": "02:54:42", "text": "the town of Bara. The Brazilian army and"}, {"end": "02:54:49", "start": "02:54:44", "text": "air force quickly scrambled to get to"}, {"end": "02:54:51", "start": "02:54:47", "text": "the crash site before any civilians did,"}, {"end": "02:54:54", "start": "02:54:49", "text": "but they were too late. The craft was"}, {"end": "02:54:56", "start": "02:54:51", "text": "seen and the beings driving the craft"}, {"end": "02:54:58", "start": "02:54:54", "text": "were gone. Over the next few days, a"}, {"end": "02:55:00", "start": "02:54:56", "text": "series of events would unfold that would"}, {"end": "02:55:03", "start": "02:54:58", "text": "change the lives of the people in the"}, {"end": "02:55:07", "start": "02:55:00", "text": "area forever. Well, at least the lives"}, {"end": "02:55:07", "start": "02:55:03", "text": "of the people who survived."}, {"end": "02:55:13", "start": "02:55:07", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "02:55:15", "start": "02:55:10", "text": "Virginia is located. What? I'm looking"}, {"end": "02:55:17", "start": "02:55:13", "text": "at that word in the teleprompter and uh"}, {"end": "02:55:18", "start": "02:55:15", "text": "Oh, I see. I thought it said"}, {"end": "02:55:20", "start": "02:55:17", "text": ">> it doesn't."}, {"end": "02:55:22", "start": "02:55:18", "text": ">> Right. Right. Okay. So, the town is"}, {"end": "02:55:22", "start": "02:55:20", "text": "Virginia. Go on."}, {"end": "02:55:25", "start": "02:55:22", "text": ">> Virginia."}, {"end": "02:55:27", "start": "02:55:22", "text": ">> Fine. Whatever. Just do me a favor. Put"}, {"end": "02:55:29", "start": "02:55:25", "text": "the name of the town in the thumbnail."}, {"end": "02:55:30", "start": "02:55:27", "text": "All right. It'll definitely get clicks."}, {"end": "02:55:33", "start": "02:55:29", "text": ">> It probably would."}, {"end": "02:55:34", "start": "02:55:30", "text": ">> Like, uh, how about strange object"}, {"end": "02:55:35", "start": "02:55:33", "text": "enters Virginia?"}, {"end": "02:55:38", "start": "02:55:34", "text": ">> Virginia."}, {"end": "02:55:39", "start": "02:55:35", "text": ">> Oh. Oh. Oh. or the mysterious vagina."}, {"end": "02:55:41", "start": "02:55:38", "text": ">> Bargina,"}, {"end": "02:55:43", "start": "02:55:39", "text": ">> you're pretty mysterious."}, {"end": "02:55:44", "start": "02:55:41", "text": "Okay. Okay. Okay. Go ahead. Go ahead."}, {"end": "02:55:46", "start": "02:55:43", "text": "I'll behave."}, {"end": "02:55:49", "start": "02:55:44", "text": ">> Bargina is in the southern region of the"}, {"end": "02:55:52", "start": "02:55:46", "text": "Brazilian state of Mina Sharice. Its"}, {"end": "02:55:54", "start": "02:55:49", "text": "population of about 135,000 makes it one"}, {"end": "02:55:56", "start": "02:55:52", "text": "of the largest cities in the region. Its"}, {"end": "02:55:59", "start": "02:55:54", "text": "economy is mostly based on agriculture."}, {"end": "02:56:01", "start": "02:55:56", "text": "Coffee, corn, and soybeans are the main"}, {"end": "02:56:03", "start": "02:55:59", "text": "crops grown on the many farms that"}, {"end": "02:56:06", "start": "02:56:01", "text": "surround the city. One of those farms is"}, {"end": "02:56:08", "start": "02:56:03", "text": "owned by Eureo and Oralina Defas. It was"}, {"end": "02:56:10", "start": "02:56:06", "text": "early in the morning before sunrise when"}, {"end": "02:56:12", "start": "02:56:08", "text": "Oralina heard the cows running around"}, {"end": "02:56:14", "start": "02:56:10", "text": "the property sounding agitated. She"}, {"end": "02:56:16", "start": "02:56:12", "text": "looked out the window and saw hovering"}, {"end": "02:56:19", "start": "02:56:14", "text": "above the pasture a cigar- shaped"}, {"end": "02:56:21", "start": "02:56:16", "text": "object. She grabbed her husband, Euro."}, {"end": "02:56:23", "start": "02:56:19", "text": "They said the shape of it reminded them"}, {"end": "02:56:25", "start": "02:56:21", "text": "of a submarine and it was about the size"}, {"end": "02:56:27", "start": "02:56:23", "text": "of a school minibus. The object was"}, {"end": "02:56:29", "start": "02:56:25", "text": "billowing white smoke and seemed to have"}, {"end": "02:56:32", "start": "02:56:27", "text": "trouble maneuvering. The two watched the"}, {"end": "02:56:34", "start": "02:56:29", "text": "craft for an hour before it disappeared"}, {"end": "02:56:36", "start": "02:56:32", "text": "over a ridge not far from the farm. On"}, {"end": "02:56:39", "start": "02:56:34", "text": "the other side of that ridge, Carlos"}, {"end": "02:56:41", "start": "02:56:36", "text": "Daoza was driving to the airport when he"}, {"end": "02:56:42", "start": "02:56:39", "text": "heard a strange muffled rumbling. He"}, {"end": "02:56:45", "start": "02:56:41", "text": "thought something was wrong with his"}, {"end": "02:56:47", "start": "02:56:42", "text": "truck, so he stopped. Then he realized"}, {"end": "02:56:50", "start": "02:56:45", "text": "the sound was coming from a cigar-shaped"}, {"end": "02:56:52", "start": "02:56:47", "text": "craft about 300 ft in the air, and it"}, {"end": "02:56:54", "start": "02:56:50", "text": "was losing altitude. The object had"}, {"end": "02:56:56", "start": "02:56:52", "text": "windows along the side and what appeared"}, {"end": "02:56:58", "start": "02:56:54", "text": "to be a long crack running through the"}, {"end": "02:57:00", "start": "02:56:56", "text": "middle of it. Out of the crack, white"}, {"end": "02:57:02", "start": "02:56:58", "text": "smoke was pouring out. Carlos thought"}, {"end": "02:57:04", "start": "02:57:00", "text": "this was strange because the smoke from"}, {"end": "02:57:06", "start": "02:57:02", "text": "a fire or an engine failure would be"}, {"end": "02:57:08", "start": "02:57:04", "text": "black. The rumbling sound made by the"}, {"end": "02:57:10", "start": "02:57:06", "text": "craft occasionally sputtered. It was"}, {"end": "02:57:12", "start": "02:57:08", "text": "clearly struggling to stay in the air."}, {"end": "02:57:14", "start": "02:57:10", "text": "Carlos jumped back in his truck and"}, {"end": "02:57:16", "start": "02:57:12", "text": "followed it. It eventually passed over"}, {"end": "02:57:18", "start": "02:57:14", "text": "some small mountains, went into a steep"}, {"end": "02:57:20", "start": "02:57:16", "text": "dive, and disappeared. After a few"}, {"end": "02:57:22", "start": "02:57:18", "text": "minutes, Carlos found a dirt road that"}, {"end": "02:57:24", "start": "02:57:20", "text": "led to the area where it went down. He"}, {"end": "02:57:27", "start": "02:57:22", "text": "came over the crest of a hill and saw"}, {"end": "02:57:29", "start": "02:57:24", "text": "wreckage spread out over a wide area."}, {"end": "02:57:31", "start": "02:57:27", "text": "Carlos began running to the crash site,"}, {"end": "02:57:33", "start": "02:57:29", "text": "which was a few hundred feet from the"}, {"end": "02:57:35", "start": "02:57:31", "text": "road. At first, he thought it was a"}, {"end": "02:57:37", "start": "02:57:33", "text": "small plane. He was a pilot himself, so"}, {"end": "02:57:39", "start": "02:57:35", "text": "if there was a crash, he wanted to help,"}, {"end": "02:57:42", "start": "02:57:37", "text": "but it only took him a few steps to"}, {"end": "02:57:45", "start": "02:57:39", "text": "realize this was no plane."}, {"end": "02:57:48", "start": "02:57:42", "text": "In the air was a heavy stench of ammonia"}, {"end": "02:57:50", "start": "02:57:45", "text": "and sulfur, like sour rotten eggs. The"}, {"end": "02:57:52", "start": "02:57:48", "text": "odor was so strong that he had to wrap"}, {"end": "02:57:54", "start": "02:57:50", "text": "his shirt around his mouth to breathe."}, {"end": "02:57:56", "start": "02:57:52", "text": "And even then, the smell stung his eyes"}, {"end": "02:57:58", "start": "02:57:54", "text": "and made them water. Debris was"}, {"end": "02:58:01", "start": "02:57:56", "text": "everywhere. Pieces of metal that looked"}, {"end": "02:58:02", "start": "02:57:58", "text": "like aluminum, but even lighter. Carlos"}, {"end": "02:58:04", "start": "02:58:01", "text": "grabbed the large sheet that had almost"}, {"end": "02:58:06", "start": "02:58:02", "text": "no weight to it. It looked like aluminum"}, {"end": "02:58:09", "start": "02:58:04", "text": "foil. He crumpled the sheet and dropped"}, {"end": "02:58:11", "start": "02:58:06", "text": "it. As soon as he released it, the metal"}, {"end": "02:58:13", "start": "02:58:09", "text": "unfolded and went back into its original"}, {"end": "02:58:15", "start": "02:58:11", "text": "shape, then floated to the ground like a"}, {"end": "02:58:17", "start": "02:58:13", "text": "feather. Carlos started making his way"}, {"end": "02:58:19", "start": "02:58:15", "text": "toward the larger pieces of debris to"}, {"end": "02:58:21", "start": "02:58:17", "text": "search for survivors. But before he"}, {"end": "02:58:23", "start": "02:58:19", "text": "could take more than a few steps, the"}, {"end": "02:58:25", "start": "02:58:21", "text": "rumbling of trucks caught his attention."}, {"end": "02:58:27", "start": "02:58:23", "text": "A convoy of military vehicles tore"}, {"end": "02:58:30", "start": "02:58:25", "text": "across the field and began establishing"}, {"end": "02:58:32", "start": "02:58:27", "text": "a perimeter. Soldiers with guns raised"}, {"end": "02:58:35", "start": "02:58:30", "text": "shouted for Carlos to get away. Carlos"}, {"end": "02:58:38", "start": "02:58:32", "text": "briefly protested, but only briefly. He"}, {"end": "02:58:40", "start": "02:58:35", "text": "was staring down the barrel of a rifle"}, {"end": "02:58:42", "start": "02:58:38", "text": "not 6 in from his face when he raised"}, {"end": "02:58:44", "start": "02:58:40", "text": "his hands and slowly backed away."}, {"end": "02:58:46", "start": "02:58:42", "text": "Shaken, Carlos left the scene and"}, {"end": "02:58:47", "start": "02:58:44", "text": "stopped to grab a cup of coffee to try"}, {"end": "02:58:50", "start": "02:58:46", "text": "and collect himself. After a few"}, {"end": "02:58:51", "start": "02:58:47", "text": "minutes, two men approached. Carlos"}, {"end": "02:58:53", "start": "02:58:50", "text": "described them as tall and neatly"}, {"end": "02:58:54", "start": "02:58:51", "text": "dressed in dark suits."}, {"end": "02:58:56", "start": "02:58:53", "text": ">> Men in black."}, {"end": "02:58:59", "start": "02:58:54", "text": ">> Yep. The men told Carlos that they know"}, {"end": "02:59:01", "start": "02:58:56", "text": "who he is and where he lives. They know"}, {"end": "02:59:02", "start": "02:58:59", "text": "his wife, his daughter. They told him"}, {"end": "02:59:05", "start": "02:59:01", "text": "that he's to forget everything that he"}, {"end": "02:59:07", "start": "02:59:02", "text": "saw and never speak of it. Carlos was"}, {"end": "02:59:09", "start": "02:59:05", "text": "terrified. He nodded that he understood."}, {"end": "02:59:11", "start": "02:59:07", "text": "Then the strangers got into a black car"}, {"end": "02:59:13", "start": "02:59:09", "text": "with no license plates and drove away."}, {"end": "02:59:16", "start": "02:59:11", "text": "And Carlos would keep what he saw a"}, {"end": "02:59:18", "start": "02:59:13", "text": "secret for 26 years. Meanwhile, back at"}, {"end": "02:59:20", "start": "02:59:16", "text": "the crash site, the Brazilian military"}, {"end": "02:59:22", "start": "02:59:18", "text": "was hard at work gathering the wreckage."}, {"end": "02:59:25", "start": "02:59:20", "text": "The craft was definitely big enough to"}, {"end": "02:59:27", "start": "02:59:22", "text": "hold a small crew, so the order went out"}, {"end": "02:59:29", "start": "02:59:25", "text": "to search for survivors. There were"}, {"end": "02:59:31", "start": "02:59:27", "text": "survivors, but the soldiers wouldn't"}, {"end": "02:59:36", "start": "02:59:29", "text": "find them, at least not near the crash."}, {"end": "02:59:36", "start": "02:59:31", "text": "Those survivors were already in town."}, {"end": "02:59:41", "start": "02:59:37", "text": "Just a few hours after the crash,"}, {"end": "02:59:44", "start": "02:59:39", "text": "authorities started receiving strange"}, {"end": "02:59:46", "start": "02:59:41", "text": "reports from residents in the area. At"}, {"end": "02:59:48", "start": "02:59:44", "text": "about 8:00 a.m., a college student"}, {"end": "02:59:50", "start": "02:59:46", "text": "reported seeing a creature with oily"}, {"end": "02:59:52", "start": "02:59:48", "text": "dark brown skin crouched in an alleyway"}, {"end": "02:59:55", "start": "02:59:50", "text": "near a local park. He said it had very"}, {"end": "02:59:57", "start": "02:59:52", "text": "small hands with three long fingers. It"}, {"end": "02:59:58", "start": "02:59:55", "text": "was between four and 5t tall and had no"}, {"end": "03:00:00", "start": "02:59:57", "text": "hair or clothing."}, {"end": "03:00:01", "start": "02:59:58", "text": ">> Yeah, you notice aliens are always"}, {"end": "03:00:02", "start": "03:00:00", "text": "naked."}, {"end": "03:00:02", "start": "03:00:01", "text": ">> I guess that's true."}, {"end": "03:00:03", "start": "03:00:02", "text": ">> Respect."}, {"end": "03:00:04", "start": "03:00:02", "text": ">> What?"}, {"end": "03:00:07", "start": "03:00:03", "text": ">> Yeah. I don't know how you humans deal"}, {"end": "03:00:07", "start": "03:00:04", "text": "with pants. I'd like to let it all hang"}, {"end": "03:00:08", "start": "03:00:07", "text": "out."}, {"end": "03:00:10", "start": "03:00:07", "text": ">> Okay, that's enough."}, {"end": "03:00:13", "start": "03:00:08", "text": ">> Crude. Just a few blocks away, three"}, {"end": "03:00:14", "start": "03:00:10", "text": "young women, Lilianne, Valkyia, and"}, {"end": "03:00:16", "start": "03:00:13", "text": "Katya, were on their way to the same"}, {"end": "03:00:19", "start": "03:00:14", "text": "park. They took a shortcut through a"}, {"end": "03:00:22", "start": "03:00:16", "text": "vacant lot. There, in the tall grass,"}, {"end": "03:00:24", "start": "03:00:19", "text": "huddled next to a cinder block wall was"}, {"end": "03:00:26", "start": "03:00:22", "text": "a creature. It was about 4 ft tall and"}, {"end": "03:00:29", "start": "03:00:24", "text": "had a large head. On its head were three"}, {"end": "03:00:31", "start": "03:00:26", "text": "bumps or ridges. It had huge red eyes."}, {"end": "03:00:34", "start": "03:00:29", "text": "Its skin was brown and looked shiny or"}, {"end": "03:00:35", "start": "03:00:31", "text": "oily. It had a slim, frail body and no"}, {"end": "03:00:38", "start": "03:00:34", "text": "hair and no clothes."}, {"end": "03:00:39", "start": "03:00:35", "text": ">> Respect. The girls weren't sure what"}, {"end": "03:00:42", "start": "03:00:38", "text": "this thing was, but when they"}, {"end": "03:00:44", "start": "03:00:39", "text": "approached, it looked right at them. The"}, {"end": "03:00:46", "start": "03:00:42", "text": "girls were frozen in fear, unable to"}, {"end": "03:00:48", "start": "03:00:44", "text": "move or speak. Though it made no sound,"}, {"end": "03:00:51", "start": "03:00:46", "text": "the girls were able to hear this being"}, {"end": "03:00:52", "start": "03:00:48", "text": "or feel its thoughts. They could feel"}, {"end": "03:00:54", "start": "03:00:51", "text": "that it was frightened, in pain, and"}, {"end": "03:00:56", "start": "03:00:52", "text": "needed help. The girls tore out of"}, {"end": "03:00:58", "start": "03:00:54", "text": "there, terrified. They burst into"}, {"end": "03:01:00", "start": "03:00:56", "text": "Katya's house and told her mother that"}, {"end": "03:01:02", "start": "03:00:58", "text": "they had seen a demon. The four of them"}, {"end": "03:01:04", "start": "03:01:00", "text": "returned to the lot, but the creature"}, {"end": "03:01:07", "start": "03:01:02", "text": "was gone. However, Katya's mother found"}, {"end": "03:01:09", "start": "03:01:04", "text": "a strange footprint. It wasn't a human"}, {"end": "03:01:12", "start": "03:01:07", "text": "footprint. Whatever this thing was, its"}, {"end": "03:01:14", "start": "03:01:09", "text": "feet had three long toes. The girls"}, {"end": "03:01:17", "start": "03:01:12", "text": "described the creature to an artist who"}, {"end": "03:01:19", "start": "03:01:14", "text": "created this now famous picture. Even"}, {"end": "03:01:21", "start": "03:01:17", "text": "though the creature was gone, there was"}, {"end": "03:01:23", "start": "03:01:19", "text": "a heavy odor of ammonia that lingered."}, {"end": "03:01:25", "start": "03:01:21", "text": "Kat's mother said she couldn't get the"}, {"end": "03:01:27", "start": "03:01:23", "text": "smell out of her nose for days. A few"}, {"end": "03:01:29", "start": "03:01:25", "text": "hours later, military policemen Eric"}, {"end": "03:01:32", "start": "03:01:27", "text": "Lopes and Marco Sherez were patrolling"}, {"end": "03:01:34", "start": "03:01:29", "text": "the area. Suddenly, a small humanoid"}, {"end": "03:01:36", "start": "03:01:32", "text": "creature with dark skin darted across"}, {"end": "03:01:38", "start": "03:01:34", "text": "the street. Margot jumped out of the car"}, {"end": "03:01:39", "start": "03:01:36", "text": "and managed to grab it. They restrained"}, {"end": "03:01:41", "start": "03:01:38", "text": "the creature and rushed it to the"}, {"end": "03:01:44", "start": "03:01:39", "text": "hospital where, according to reports, it"}, {"end": "03:01:46", "start": "03:01:41", "text": "died. Almost immediately, Marco started"}, {"end": "03:01:49", "start": "03:01:44", "text": "feeling ill. He said his skin felt"}, {"end": "03:01:50", "start": "03:01:46", "text": "greasy even though it wasn't, and there"}, {"end": "03:01:53", "start": "03:01:49", "text": "was a lingering smell of ammonia that"}, {"end": "03:01:54", "start": "03:01:50", "text": "stayed with him. Over the next 2 weeks,"}, {"end": "03:01:56", "start": "03:01:53", "text": "his condition worsened and he was"}, {"end": "03:01:58", "start": "03:01:54", "text": "admitted to the hospital and placed in"}, {"end": "03:02:00", "start": "03:01:56", "text": "intensive care. None of the doctors"}, {"end": "03:02:02", "start": "03:01:58", "text": "could figure out what was wrong with him"}, {"end": "03:02:05", "start": "03:02:00", "text": "or how to help. Finally, at the age of"}, {"end": "03:02:07", "start": "03:02:02", "text": "23, Marco Sharz died of an unknown"}, {"end": "03:02:10", "start": "03:02:05", "text": "cause. The doctors said an autopsy"}, {"end": "03:02:12", "start": "03:02:07", "text": "wasn't necessary and ordered a closed"}, {"end": "03:02:14", "start": "03:02:10", "text": "casket service. They also had his body"}, {"end": "03:02:16", "start": "03:02:12", "text": "buried immediately. They said this was"}, {"end": "03:02:18", "start": "03:02:14", "text": "to protect public health. They did make"}, {"end": "03:02:21", "start": "03:02:16", "text": "his blood tests available. His blood"}, {"end": "03:02:23", "start": "03:02:18", "text": "contained 8% of unknown toxic"}, {"end": "03:02:25", "start": "03:02:21", "text": "substances."}, {"end": "03:02:28", "start": "03:02:23", "text": "And that was the first death caused by"}, {"end": "03:02:31", "start": "03:02:25", "text": "the Varia UFO incident. But it wasn't"}, {"end": "03:02:31", "start": "03:02:28", "text": "the last."}, {"end": "03:02:36", "start": "03:02:32", "text": "Several calls came into the fire"}, {"end": "03:02:37", "start": "03:02:33", "text": "department about a wild animal on the"}, {"end": "03:02:39", "start": "03:02:36", "text": "loose near the park where the girls saw"}, {"end": "03:02:41", "start": "03:02:37", "text": "the creature. Four firemen were"}, {"end": "03:02:43", "start": "03:02:39", "text": "dispatched to look for it. When the"}, {"end": "03:02:45", "start": "03:02:41", "text": "firemen arrived on the scene, there were"}, {"end": "03:02:47", "start": "03:02:43", "text": "five civilians watching the creature"}, {"end": "03:02:49", "start": "03:02:45", "text": "that had gone down a steep embankment"}, {"end": "03:02:51", "start": "03:02:47", "text": "toward a densely wooded area. They said"}, {"end": "03:02:54", "start": "03:02:49", "text": "it made a buzzing sound similar to bees."}, {"end": "03:02:56", "start": "03:02:51", "text": "It took the firemen 2 hours to capture"}, {"end": "03:02:58", "start": "03:02:54", "text": "it. It kept running away and the terrain"}, {"end": "03:03:00", "start": "03:02:56", "text": "was hard to navigate and they were"}, {"end": "03:03:02", "start": "03:02:58", "text": "afraid of whatever this thing was."}, {"end": "03:03:04", "start": "03:03:00", "text": "Everyone who saw it said it gave off a"}, {"end": "03:03:07", "start": "03:03:02", "text": "strong offensive odor like ammonia and"}, {"end": "03:03:09", "start": "03:03:04", "text": "sulfur. Finally, the firemen were able"}, {"end": "03:03:11", "start": "03:03:07", "text": "to snare the creature in a net. By now,"}, {"end": "03:03:13", "start": "03:03:09", "text": "a military truck arrived from Asa, a"}, {"end": "03:03:16", "start": "03:03:11", "text": "military base a few miles away."}, {"end": "03:03:18", "start": "03:03:13", "text": "Witnesses saw soldiers struggling with"}, {"end": "03:03:20", "start": "03:03:16", "text": "two black bags. One bag was squirming as"}, {"end": "03:03:22", "start": "03:03:18", "text": "if something was alive in it, but the"}, {"end": "03:03:24", "start": "03:03:20", "text": "other bag was still. The bags were"}, {"end": "03:03:26", "start": "03:03:22", "text": "heaved into the truck and it sped away."}, {"end": "03:03:28", "start": "03:03:24", "text": "Immediately, the area was surrounded by"}, {"end": "03:03:30", "start": "03:03:26", "text": "military vehicles and civilians were not"}, {"end": "03:03:33", "start": "03:03:28", "text": "allowed in or out of the area. Less than"}, {"end": "03:03:35", "start": "03:03:30", "text": "an hour later, a section of regional"}, {"end": "03:03:38", "start": "03:03:33", "text": "hospital was ordered locked down. Then"}, {"end": "03:03:39", "start": "03:03:35", "text": "10 military and police vehicles arrived."}, {"end": "03:03:42", "start": "03:03:38", "text": "The truck then pulled up close to the"}, {"end": "03:03:44", "start": "03:03:39", "text": "entrance and two soldiers unloaded a"}, {"end": "03:03:46", "start": "03:03:42", "text": "black body bag. The bag was taken to the"}, {"end": "03:03:48", "start": "03:03:44", "text": "radiology department for x-rays. The"}, {"end": "03:03:50", "start": "03:03:46", "text": "X-ray technician on duty that day said"}, {"end": "03:03:53", "start": "03:03:48", "text": "the examination room was full of"}, {"end": "03:03:55", "start": "03:03:50", "text": "doctors, police, and military personnel."}, {"end": "03:03:57", "start": "03:03:53", "text": "People were nervous and just staring at"}, {"end": "03:03:59", "start": "03:03:55", "text": "each other, afraid to speak. The tech"}, {"end": "03:04:01", "start": "03:03:57", "text": "was ordered to take x-rays of the bag,"}, {"end": "03:04:03", "start": "03:03:59", "text": "which he wasn't allowed to open. He did"}, {"end": "03:04:05", "start": "03:04:01", "text": "this, but then the military took the"}, {"end": "03:04:07", "start": "03:04:03", "text": "film. The radiologist never saw the"}, {"end": "03:04:10", "start": "03:04:05", "text": "pictures. He said he'd never experienced"}, {"end": "03:04:12", "start": "03:04:07", "text": "anything like that before or since. He"}, {"end": "03:04:14", "start": "03:04:10", "text": "was told to keep everything he seen a"}, {"end": "03:04:17", "start": "03:04:12", "text": "secret as a matter of national security."}, {"end": "03:04:19", "start": "03:04:14", "text": "Then, as quickly as they arrived, the"}, {"end": "03:04:21", "start": "03:04:17", "text": "military entourage left with the X-rays"}, {"end": "03:04:23", "start": "03:04:19", "text": "and the body bag, but the smell of"}, {"end": "03:04:25", "start": "03:04:21", "text": "ammonia and sulfur remained. The tech"}, {"end": "03:04:27", "start": "03:04:23", "text": "said the smell felt like it was inside"}, {"end": "03:04:29", "start": "03:04:25", "text": "his nose and lingered. In fact, that"}, {"end": "03:04:32", "start": "03:04:27", "text": "whole section of the hospital was closed"}, {"end": "03:04:33", "start": "03:04:29", "text": "to the public for another 3 or 4 days."}, {"end": "03:04:35", "start": "03:04:32", "text": "No matter what the cleaning staff did,"}, {"end": "03:04:37", "start": "03:04:33", "text": "they couldn't remove the smell. They"}, {"end": "03:04:39", "start": "03:04:35", "text": "just had to wait for it to dissipate. By"}, {"end": "03:04:41", "start": "03:04:37", "text": "the way, one of the firemen who helped"}, {"end": "03:04:44", "start": "03:04:39", "text": "capture the alien died a few weeks later"}, {"end": "03:04:46", "start": "03:04:41", "text": "from unknown toxic poisoning."}, {"end": "03:04:49", "start": "03:04:44", "text": "Senior military officials warned"}, {"end": "03:04:51", "start": "03:04:46", "text": "everyone involved. 50 doctors and"}, {"end": "03:04:53", "start": "03:04:49", "text": "hospital staff were put under strict"}, {"end": "03:04:56", "start": "03:04:51", "text": "non-disclosure agreements and told this"}, {"end": "03:04:58", "start": "03:04:53", "text": "was a training exercise. The doctors and"}, {"end": "03:05:00", "start": "03:04:56", "text": "nurses were threatened with prison if"}, {"end": "03:05:01", "start": "03:04:58", "text": "they ever spoke about what happened."}, {"end": "03:05:03", "start": "03:05:00", "text": "soldiers were reminded of their"}, {"end": "03:05:05", "start": "03:05:01", "text": "responsibilities to national security"}, {"end": "03:05:06", "start": "03:05:03", "text": "and that if they spoke about what"}, {"end": "03:05:10", "start": "03:05:05", "text": "happened, it could be considered"}, {"end": "03:05:12", "start": "03:05:06", "text": "treason. These tactics worked because"}, {"end": "03:05:14", "start": "03:05:10", "text": "after the military convoy sped away from"}, {"end": "03:05:16", "start": "03:05:12", "text": "the hospital, there wouldn't be any new"}, {"end": "03:05:17", "start": "03:05:14", "text": "details about the story, where the truck"}, {"end": "03:05:20", "start": "03:05:16", "text": "went, what was in it, who was involved,"}, {"end": "03:05:22", "start": "03:05:17", "text": "nothing. But 25 years later, a witness"}, {"end": "03:05:27", "start": "03:05:20", "text": "would come forward and he would reveal"}, {"end": "03:05:27", "start": "03:05:22", "text": "details that nobody saw coming."}, {"end": "03:05:33", "start": "03:05:28", "text": "It took 25 years, but a soldier came"}, {"end": "03:05:35", "start": "03:05:31", "text": "forward who was close to everything. His"}, {"end": "03:05:37", "start": "03:05:33", "text": "testimony can be seen in the excellent"}, {"end": "03:05:40", "start": "03:05:35", "text": "documentary on this case, Moment of"}, {"end": "03:05:41", "start": "03:05:37", "text": "Contact, by filmmaker James Fox. And if"}, {"end": "03:05:42", "start": "03:05:40", "text": "you want to learn more about this story,"}, {"end": "03:05:44", "start": "03:05:41", "text": "I recommend you check it out, and"}, {"end": "03:05:46", "start": "03:05:42", "text": "there's a link below. The soldier who"}, {"end": "03:05:48", "start": "03:05:44", "text": "came forward refused to allow his name"}, {"end": "03:05:51", "start": "03:05:46", "text": "to be used, so he became known as"}, {"end": "03:05:53", "start": "03:05:48", "text": "Military X. But I found a very old"}, {"end": "03:05:55", "start": "03:05:51", "text": "report from Virginia Local News, which"}, {"end": "03:05:56", "start": "03:05:53", "text": "revealed his name. Now, I don't want to"}, {"end": "03:05:58", "start": "03:05:55", "text": "out the guy, so we'll just call him"}, {"end": "03:06:01", "start": "03:05:56", "text": "Raul, which is close to his real first"}, {"end": "03:06:02", "start": "03:05:58", "text": "name. Raul was part of the convoy that"}, {"end": "03:06:05", "start": "03:06:01", "text": "brought the creature to the hospital,"}, {"end": "03:06:07", "start": "03:06:02", "text": "and there he saw the alien in a box. It"}, {"end": "03:06:10", "start": "03:06:05", "text": "was covered, but it was between 4 and 5"}, {"end": "03:06:12", "start": "03:06:07", "text": "ft tall. He was able to see its foot"}, {"end": "03:06:15", "start": "03:06:10", "text": "poking out. He said its skin was very"}, {"end": "03:06:17", "start": "03:06:12", "text": "dark red or brown and looked oily. He"}, {"end": "03:06:19", "start": "03:06:15", "text": "knew this wasn't human because its foot"}, {"end": "03:06:21", "start": "03:06:17", "text": "had only three toes. From the hospital,"}, {"end": "03:06:24", "start": "03:06:19", "text": "they went to the Asa military base about"}, {"end": "03:06:26", "start": "03:06:21", "text": "20 mi from Virginia. After they parked"}, {"end": "03:06:27", "start": "03:06:24", "text": "the trucks, Raul and another soldier"}, {"end": "03:06:30", "start": "03:06:26", "text": "recalled into the base commander's"}, {"end": "03:06:32", "start": "03:06:27", "text": "office. Their CO asked them what they"}, {"end": "03:06:34", "start": "03:06:30", "text": "saw. Raul was frightened and not sure"}, {"end": "03:06:36", "start": "03:06:32", "text": "how to answer. He said he thought he saw"}, {"end": "03:06:38", "start": "03:06:34", "text": "a burnt man or something like that. His"}, {"end": "03:06:40", "start": "03:06:36", "text": "commanding officer told him, \"That's not"}, {"end": "03:06:43", "start": "03:06:38", "text": "what you saw. You saw something"}, {"end": "03:06:45", "start": "03:06:40", "text": "supernatural.\" Raul was told that if he"}, {"end": "03:06:48", "start": "03:06:43", "text": "reveals what he saw to anyone, the"}, {"end": "03:06:50", "start": "03:06:45", "text": "consequences would be severe. The"}, {"end": "03:06:52", "start": "03:06:48", "text": "following day was very strange. At the"}, {"end": "03:06:54", "start": "03:06:50", "text": "base, there were Navy trucks and"}, {"end": "03:06:56", "start": "03:06:52", "text": "helicopters there, which was unusual."}, {"end": "03:06:58", "start": "03:06:54", "text": "There was a lot of activity, a lot of"}, {"end": "03:07:00", "start": "03:06:56", "text": "unfamiliar faces. People were on edge."}, {"end": "03:07:03", "start": "03:06:58", "text": "Early that morning, Raul and the convoy"}, {"end": "03:07:06", "start": "03:07:00", "text": "left Aza and went to a SpaceX army base"}, {"end": "03:07:06", "start": "03:07:03", "text": "in Campus about 2 hours away."}, {"end": "03:07:09", "start": "03:07:06", "text": ">> What?"}, {"end": "03:07:10", "start": "03:07:06", "text": ">> They went from Virginia to the penis."}, {"end": "03:07:13", "start": "03:07:09", "text": ">> Virginia, Campus,"}, {"end": "03:07:15", "start": "03:07:10", "text": ">> tomato, tomato, Virginia, Virginia. The"}, {"end": "03:07:15", "start": "03:07:13", "text": "algorithm is going to punish you for"}, {"end": "03:07:19", "start": "03:07:15", "text": "this one."}, {"end": "03:07:20", "start": "03:07:15", "text": ">> Well, they are now from Campus. And Raul"}, {"end": "03:07:22", "start": "03:07:19", "text": "didn't know what happened to the"}, {"end": "03:07:24", "start": "03:07:20", "text": "creature, though he had heard rumors."}, {"end": "03:07:27", "start": "03:07:22", "text": "Rumors that would turn out to be true."}, {"end": "03:07:29", "start": "03:07:24", "text": "Jose Manuel Fernandez was an air traffic"}, {"end": "03:07:31", "start": "03:07:27", "text": "controller at the base during this time."}, {"end": "03:07:33", "start": "03:07:29", "text": "He said two helicopters left the base,"}, {"end": "03:07:35", "start": "03:07:31", "text": "went to Virginia, and returned with what"}, {"end": "03:07:37", "start": "03:07:33", "text": "he didn't know, but he thought it was"}, {"end": "03:07:38", "start": "03:07:35", "text": "some kind of rescue mission. Then"}, {"end": "03:07:40", "start": "03:07:37", "text": "something happened that Jose had never"}, {"end": "03:07:43", "start": "03:07:38", "text": "experienced. A large plane was coming"}, {"end": "03:07:45", "start": "03:07:40", "text": "in, but it didn't have authorization to"}, {"end": "03:07:47", "start": "03:07:43", "text": "land. Jose's supervisors told him to"}, {"end": "03:07:50", "start": "03:07:45", "text": "allow it anyway. The plane landed and"}, {"end": "03:07:52", "start": "03:07:47", "text": "boxes were loaded onto it. Then it took"}, {"end": "03:07:54", "start": "03:07:50", "text": "off again and that was it. The trucks,"}, {"end": "03:07:57", "start": "03:07:52", "text": "the helicopters, and all the extra"}, {"end": "03:07:59", "start": "03:07:54", "text": "people just left. Jose asked what this"}, {"end": "03:08:00", "start": "03:07:57", "text": "was all about, and he was told it was a"}, {"end": "03:08:03", "start": "03:07:59", "text": "secret mission, and that was all he"}, {"end": "03:08:05", "start": "03:08:00", "text": "needed to know. But Jose does remember"}, {"end": "03:08:06", "start": "03:08:03", "text": "what kind of plane landed. He called it"}, {"end": "03:08:09", "start": "03:08:05", "text": "a Yusoft plane."}, {"end": "03:08:11", "start": "03:08:06", "text": ">> A USA? What kind of a plane is a Yusov?"}, {"end": "03:08:15", "start": "03:08:09", "text": ">> Well, that's what Brazilians call it,"}, {"end": "03:08:19", "start": "03:08:11", "text": "USA or USAF. That's it."}, {"end": "03:08:19", "start": "03:08:15", "text": ">> The United States Air Force."}, {"end": "03:08:25", "start": "03:08:21", "text": ">> One of the facts that's agreed on by the"}, {"end": "03:08:27", "start": "03:08:23", "text": "witnesses from the military is that the"}, {"end": "03:08:30", "start": "03:08:25", "text": "United States immediately took over the"}, {"end": "03:08:31", "start": "03:08:27", "text": "operation. Whatever the operation was,"}, {"end": "03:08:33", "start": "03:08:30", "text": "even though the American plane came and"}, {"end": "03:08:36", "start": "03:08:31", "text": "went very quickly, there were a few"}, {"end": "03:08:38", "start": "03:08:33", "text": "Americans who stayed behind. A few"}, {"end": "03:08:40", "start": "03:08:36", "text": "months after the events, Katya's mother,"}, {"end": "03:08:43", "start": "03:08:38", "text": "Donna Louisa, heard a knock on the door."}, {"end": "03:08:44", "start": "03:08:40", "text": "She opened it and four men shoved their"}, {"end": "03:08:47", "start": "03:08:43", "text": "way in. She described them as"}, {"end": "03:08:49", "start": "03:08:44", "text": "foreigners, neatly dressed in dark suits"}, {"end": "03:08:51", "start": "03:08:47", "text": "and pushy. One held a clipboard, the"}, {"end": "03:08:54", "start": "03:08:49", "text": "other carried a briefcase. They told her"}, {"end": "03:08:55", "start": "03:08:51", "text": "that they were there to make a proposal."}, {"end": "03:08:57", "start": "03:08:54", "text": "She could take all the money in the"}, {"end": "03:09:00", "start": "03:08:55", "text": "briefcase, which was tens of thousands"}, {"end": "03:09:02", "start": "03:08:57", "text": "of dollars in cash. In return, she"}, {"end": "03:09:03", "start": "03:09:00", "text": "convinces the girls to retract their"}, {"end": "03:09:05", "start": "03:09:02", "text": "story and admit they made the whole"}, {"end": "03:09:07", "start": "03:09:03", "text": "thing up. Then they leave the country"}, {"end": "03:09:10", "start": "03:09:05", "text": "and never speak of these things again."}, {"end": "03:09:13", "start": "03:09:07", "text": "She refused. They insisted that she take"}, {"end": "03:09:15", "start": "03:09:10", "text": "the money and be silent. Donna Louisa"}, {"end": "03:09:16", "start": "03:09:13", "text": "said the girls did see something out"}, {"end": "03:09:18", "start": "03:09:15", "text": "there and she wouldn't have them"}, {"end": "03:09:21", "start": "03:09:16", "text": "portrayed as liars. Again, the men"}, {"end": "03:09:23", "start": "03:09:18", "text": "insisted. As they continued to press the"}, {"end": "03:09:25", "start": "03:09:21", "text": "issue, they became very frustrated and"}, {"end": "03:09:26", "start": "03:09:23", "text": "Donna Louisa started to become"}, {"end": "03:09:28", "start": "03:09:25", "text": "frightened. She told the men to leave"}, {"end": "03:09:31", "start": "03:09:26", "text": "her house or she would call the police."}, {"end": "03:09:33", "start": "03:09:28", "text": "Finally, and very suddenly, they left."}, {"end": "03:09:36", "start": "03:09:31", "text": "Another wellrespected family just a few"}, {"end": "03:09:38", "start": "03:09:33", "text": "blocks away reported seeing an object in"}, {"end": "03:09:40", "start": "03:09:36", "text": "the sky on the evening the aliens were"}, {"end": "03:09:43", "start": "03:09:38", "text": "captured. They said the object was the"}, {"end": "03:09:44", "start": "03:09:40", "text": "size of a bus, circular and metallic. It"}, {"end": "03:09:46", "start": "03:09:43", "text": "hovered just a few hundred feet above"}, {"end": "03:09:48", "start": "03:09:44", "text": "their house. And though it was rotating"}, {"end": "03:09:50", "start": "03:09:46", "text": "very quickly, the object was completely"}, {"end": "03:09:52", "start": "03:09:48", "text": "silent. They said it was traveling"}, {"end": "03:09:54", "start": "03:09:50", "text": "slowly back and forth like it was"}, {"end": "03:09:57", "start": "03:09:52", "text": "looking for something. After they made"}, {"end": "03:09:59", "start": "03:09:54", "text": "their report, two men paid them a visit."}, {"end": "03:10:01", "start": "03:09:57", "text": "They asked a lot of questions and talked"}, {"end": "03:10:03", "start": "03:09:59", "text": "to the family for hours. And just before"}, {"end": "03:10:06", "start": "03:10:01", "text": "the strangers left, they said, \"What you"}, {"end": "03:10:07", "start": "03:10:03", "text": "saw didn't happen and this conversation"}, {"end": "03:10:10", "start": "03:10:06", "text": "never happened.\" They implied that if"}, {"end": "03:10:12", "start": "03:10:07", "text": "they spoke publicly, it would be very"}, {"end": "03:10:14", "start": "03:10:10", "text": "bad for the family. And to this day, the"}, {"end": "03:10:16", "start": "03:10:12", "text": "family insists that this entire story"}, {"end": "03:10:18", "start": "03:10:14", "text": "happened, but they refused to give their"}, {"end": "03:10:21", "start": "03:10:16", "text": "names. A key to this entire story is"}, {"end": "03:10:23", "start": "03:10:18", "text": "Eric Lopes. He was the partner of Marco"}, {"end": "03:10:26", "start": "03:10:21", "text": "Sharz, the young military policeman who"}, {"end": "03:10:28", "start": "03:10:23", "text": "died after touching the alien. Lopes is"}, {"end": "03:10:30", "start": "03:10:26", "text": "one of the only people alive who can"}, {"end": "03:10:32", "start": "03:10:28", "text": "confirm the story. He was there when the"}, {"end": "03:10:33", "start": "03:10:30", "text": "alien was captured. It was in his car"}, {"end": "03:10:36", "start": "03:10:32", "text": "when they drove it to the hospital and"}, {"end": "03:10:38", "start": "03:10:33", "text": "he helped carry it in. For 25 years,"}, {"end": "03:10:40", "start": "03:10:36", "text": "he's refused to speak about the"}, {"end": "03:10:42", "start": "03:10:38", "text": "incident. When James Fox and his crew"}, {"end": "03:10:45", "start": "03:10:40", "text": "showed up at his house to ask him about"}, {"end": "03:10:46", "start": "03:10:42", "text": "what happened, he was so agitated he"}, {"end": "03:10:49", "start": "03:10:45", "text": "threatened to shoot them if they didn't"}, {"end": "03:10:51", "start": "03:10:46", "text": "leave him alone. The Virginia UFO"}, {"end": "03:10:53", "start": "03:10:49", "text": "incident has been called the Brazilian"}, {"end": "03:10:56", "start": "03:10:51", "text": "Roswell. It's considered to be the most"}, {"end": "03:11:00", "start": "03:10:53", "text": "compelling case for UFOs and aliens in"}, {"end": "03:11:00", "start": "03:10:56", "text": "history. Or is it?"}, {"end": "03:11:06", "start": "03:11:01", "text": "The Virginia UFO incident became a world"}, {"end": "03:11:08", "start": "03:11:03", "text": "famous case in 1996, and with the"}, {"end": "03:11:09", "start": "03:11:06", "text": "documentary Moment of Contact being"}, {"end": "03:11:12", "start": "03:11:08", "text": "released, it's once again on people's"}, {"end": "03:11:14", "start": "03:11:09", "text": "minds. But how much of the story is"}, {"end": "03:11:17", "start": "03:11:12", "text": "true? Well, this is a difficult case to"}, {"end": "03:11:19", "start": "03:11:14", "text": "prove and disprove. The fact is, there's"}, {"end": "03:11:21", "start": "03:11:17", "text": "not a single piece of physical evidence"}, {"end": "03:11:23", "start": "03:11:19", "text": "to support that any of this happened."}, {"end": "03:11:26", "start": "03:11:21", "text": "The entire story is based on witness"}, {"end": "03:11:28", "start": "03:11:23", "text": "testimony. Testimony that over the years"}, {"end": "03:11:30", "start": "03:11:26", "text": "has been less than consistent. You'll"}, {"end": "03:11:32", "start": "03:11:28", "text": "hear some documentaries say, \"But the"}, {"end": "03:11:33", "start": "03:11:30", "text": "witnesses have no reason to lie because"}, {"end": "03:11:36", "start": "03:11:32", "text": "they haven't made any money for their"}, {"end": "03:11:38", "start": "03:11:33", "text": "story.\" That's not true. Quite a few"}, {"end": "03:11:40", "start": "03:11:36", "text": "witnesses have been compensated over the"}, {"end": "03:11:42", "start": "03:11:38", "text": "years. In fact, the Wall Street Journal"}, {"end": "03:11:44", "start": "03:11:40", "text": "reported that the girls who found the"}, {"end": "03:11:46", "start": "03:11:42", "text": "creature wouldn't give an interview for"}, {"end": "03:11:49", "start": "03:11:44", "text": "anything less than $200, something they"}, {"end": "03:11:51", "start": "03:11:46", "text": "later denied. about those girls. It's"}, {"end": "03:11:53", "start": "03:11:49", "text": "important to know that there was no"}, {"end": "03:11:56", "start": "03:11:51", "text": "Virginia UFO incident before the girls"}, {"end": "03:11:57", "start": "03:11:53", "text": "story was made public. It was only after"}, {"end": "03:11:59", "start": "03:11:56", "text": "they were covered on a popular TV"}, {"end": "03:12:01", "start": "03:11:57", "text": "program that other witnesses came"}, {"end": "03:12:03", "start": "03:11:59", "text": "forward. And those witnesses described"}, {"end": "03:12:05", "start": "03:12:01", "text": "the aliens the same way the girls did."}, {"end": "03:12:08", "start": "03:12:03", "text": "So, the new witnesses either saw the"}, {"end": "03:12:09", "start": "03:12:05", "text": "same alien or they were lying and"}, {"end": "03:12:11", "start": "03:12:08", "text": "building on other stories they heard."}, {"end": "03:12:13", "start": "03:12:09", "text": "There's no way to know for sure. But"}, {"end": "03:12:15", "start": "03:12:11", "text": "when the girls reported the creature,"}, {"end": "03:12:17", "start": "03:12:13", "text": "they never said it was an alien. There"}, {"end": "03:12:19", "start": "03:12:15", "text": "was no mention of a UFO. They thought"}, {"end": "03:12:21", "start": "03:12:17", "text": "the creature looked like a demon. At the"}, {"end": "03:12:23", "start": "03:12:19", "text": "time all this was happening, people in"}, {"end": "03:12:25", "start": "03:12:21", "text": "the area were obsessed with a crypted"}, {"end": "03:12:27", "start": "03:12:23", "text": "called Chupacabra, which was getting a"}, {"end": "03:12:29", "start": "03:12:25", "text": "lot of coverage. It was a local UFO"}, {"end": "03:12:31", "start": "03:12:27", "text": "researcher who proposed that what they"}, {"end": "03:12:33", "start": "03:12:29", "text": "saw was an alien. The official"}, {"end": "03:12:36", "start": "03:12:31", "text": "explanation is that the girls actually"}, {"end": "03:12:38", "start": "03:12:33", "text": "saw someone locals called Mourinho."}, {"end": "03:12:41", "start": "03:12:36", "text": "Minho means little mute. His real name"}, {"end": "03:12:43", "start": "03:12:38", "text": "is Luis Antonio Depa. He was a mentally"}, {"end": "03:12:45", "start": "03:12:41", "text": "and physically disabled man who would"}, {"end": "03:12:47", "start": "03:12:43", "text": "spend hours crouching and looking at"}, {"end": "03:12:49", "start": "03:12:45", "text": "small objects on the ground. He lived"}, {"end": "03:12:51", "start": "03:12:47", "text": "where the girls saw the alien. In fact,"}, {"end": "03:12:53", "start": "03:12:49", "text": "he still lives there. He doesn't live"}, {"end": "03:12:55", "start": "03:12:51", "text": "near the location. He lives at the"}, {"end": "03:12:57", "start": "03:12:53", "text": "location. The day they saw him, there"}, {"end": "03:12:59", "start": "03:12:55", "text": "was a major storm passing through the"}, {"end": "03:13:01", "start": "03:12:57", "text": "area. So much rain fell that some parts"}, {"end": "03:13:03", "start": "03:12:59", "text": "of the town were flooded. It could be"}, {"end": "03:13:05", "start": "03:13:01", "text": "that Modinho was covered in mud, which"}, {"end": "03:13:06", "start": "03:13:03", "text": "was known to happen, and he scared the"}, {"end": "03:13:08", "start": "03:13:05", "text": "girls. Now, the girls say that it"}, {"end": "03:13:10", "start": "03:13:06", "text": "couldn't have been Mourinho because they"}, {"end": "03:13:12", "start": "03:13:08", "text": "know him and wouldn't mistake him for an"}, {"end": "03:13:14", "start": "03:13:10", "text": "alien. But in the original report, they"}, {"end": "03:13:16", "start": "03:13:12", "text": "said they didn't know him. And when they"}, {"end": "03:13:18", "start": "03:13:14", "text": "first saw him, they thought he looked"}, {"end": "03:13:20", "start": "03:13:16", "text": "like a demon. They said the same thing"}, {"end": "03:13:22", "start": "03:13:18", "text": "about the alien. They may or may not be"}, {"end": "03:13:24", "start": "03:13:20", "text": "lying intentionally, but one of their"}, {"end": "03:13:26", "start": "03:13:22", "text": "versions of the story is wrong. And this"}, {"end": "03:13:29", "start": "03:13:24", "text": "isn't surprising. It's a 26-year-old"}, {"end": "03:13:32", "start": "03:13:26", "text": "case. Witness reports are all over the"}, {"end": "03:13:35", "start": "03:13:29", "text": "place. This was a huge story in 1996. It"}, {"end": "03:13:37", "start": "03:13:32", "text": "made international news. People's"}, {"end": "03:13:39", "start": "03:13:35", "text": "memories change over time. If you read"}, {"end": "03:13:42", "start": "03:13:37", "text": "an interesting detail about this case,"}, {"end": "03:13:44", "start": "03:13:39", "text": "you may even unknowingly add that detail"}, {"end": "03:13:46", "start": "03:13:42", "text": "to your version of the story. Tell that"}, {"end": "03:13:48", "start": "03:13:44", "text": "story enough times, your brain will"}, {"end": "03:13:50", "start": "03:13:46", "text": "actually create a false memory to"}, {"end": "03:13:51", "start": "03:13:48", "text": "support it. When Katya's mother first"}, {"end": "03:13:53", "start": "03:13:50", "text": "told the story about the men trying to"}, {"end": "03:13:55", "start": "03:13:51", "text": "bribe her to get her daughters to"}, {"end": "03:13:57", "start": "03:13:53", "text": "retract their story, she said they"}, {"end": "03:13:59", "start": "03:13:55", "text": "implied there would be a payment. Later,"}, {"end": "03:14:01", "start": "03:13:57", "text": "the story included a briefcase full of"}, {"end": "03:14:03", "start": "03:13:59", "text": "cash. Now, did she forget this detail"}, {"end": "03:14:05", "start": "03:14:01", "text": "early on? Or had she been hearing"}, {"end": "03:14:07", "start": "03:14:03", "text": "stories about the men in black for so"}, {"end": "03:14:09", "start": "03:14:05", "text": "long that the briefcase found its way"}, {"end": "03:14:11", "start": "03:14:07", "text": "into her memory? Side note, the weather"}, {"end": "03:14:14", "start": "03:14:09", "text": "conditions make it unlikely that anyone"}, {"end": "03:14:16", "start": "03:14:11", "text": "saw an alien footprint in the mud, but"}, {"end": "03:14:18", "start": "03:14:14", "text": "who knows? Stories vary. Some witnesses"}, {"end": "03:14:20", "start": "03:14:16", "text": "gave statements that they later denied."}, {"end": "03:14:22", "start": "03:14:18", "text": "Others denied seeing anything, but then"}, {"end": "03:14:24", "start": "03:14:20", "text": "later came forward. And other witness"}, {"end": "03:14:26", "start": "03:14:22", "text": "reports don't fit the timeline at all."}, {"end": "03:14:28", "start": "03:14:24", "text": "The couple who first saw the UFO over"}, {"end": "03:14:30", "start": "03:14:26", "text": "their farm, they said it happened a week"}, {"end": "03:14:32", "start": "03:14:28", "text": "earlier. It's possible they aren't"}, {"end": "03:14:34", "start": "03:14:30", "text": "remembering correctly, but if I saw a"}, {"end": "03:14:36", "start": "03:14:32", "text": "UFO hovering over my house for an hour,"}, {"end": "03:14:39", "start": "03:14:34", "text": "I'd remember every detail about that"}, {"end": "03:14:41", "start": "03:14:36", "text": "day. Memories are stored with emotion."}, {"end": "03:14:43", "start": "03:14:39", "text": "The more emotional the event, the more"}, {"end": "03:14:45", "start": "03:14:41", "text": "likely you are to recall it. People who"}, {"end": "03:14:48", "start": "03:14:43", "text": "live through the JFK assassination or"}, {"end": "03:14:49", "start": "03:14:45", "text": "the 9/11 attack know exactly where they"}, {"end": "03:14:51", "start": "03:14:48", "text": "were when they heard the news. People"}, {"end": "03:14:54", "start": "03:14:49", "text": "vividly remember the days their children"}, {"end": "03:14:57", "start": "03:14:51", "text": "are born and vividly remember when their"}, {"end": "03:14:58", "start": "03:14:54", "text": "parents died. Emotions create memories."}, {"end": "03:15:00", "start": "03:14:57", "text": "Now, about Marco Sharez, the young"}, {"end": "03:15:02", "start": "03:14:58", "text": "officer who died after touching the"}, {"end": "03:15:04", "start": "03:15:00", "text": "alien. It said that he was perfectly"}, {"end": "03:15:07", "start": "03:15:02", "text": "healthy and suddenly became ill. That's"}, {"end": "03:15:09", "start": "03:15:04", "text": "not true. He had a cyst on his arm that"}, {"end": "03:15:11", "start": "03:15:07", "text": "became infected. The cyst was documented"}, {"end": "03:15:13", "start": "03:15:09", "text": "well before any of this happened. Marco"}, {"end": "03:15:16", "start": "03:15:11", "text": "wasn't connected to the UFO story until"}, {"end": "03:15:18", "start": "03:15:13", "text": "much later, and his sister was the first"}, {"end": "03:15:20", "start": "03:15:16", "text": "person to bring it up. Now, she says it"}, {"end": "03:15:22", "start": "03:15:18", "text": "happened and that's that. But her"}, {"end": "03:15:23", "start": "03:15:20", "text": "earlier story said it was possible he"}, {"end": "03:15:26", "start": "03:15:22", "text": "was involved, though she didn't know for"}, {"end": "03:15:28", "start": "03:15:23", "text": "sure. The Brazilian military released a"}, {"end": "03:15:30", "start": "03:15:26", "text": "report of these events that was over a"}, {"end": "03:15:32", "start": "03:15:28", "text": "thousand pages long. According to the"}, {"end": "03:15:34", "start": "03:15:30", "text": "report, Marco wasn't even working that"}, {"end": "03:15:36", "start": "03:15:32", "text": "night. The report also says all the"}, {"end": "03:15:39", "start": "03:15:34", "text": "military vehicles in the area were part"}, {"end": "03:15:42", "start": "03:15:36", "text": "of a training exercise as a base was a"}, {"end": "03:15:44", "start": "03:15:39", "text": "training base. The military convoys were"}, {"end": "03:15:46", "start": "03:15:42", "text": "just vehicles all going in for scheduled"}, {"end": "03:15:48", "start": "03:15:44", "text": "maintenance at the same time, which they"}, {"end": "03:15:50", "start": "03:15:46", "text": "do. After all, the base is just a few"}, {"end": "03:15:52", "start": "03:15:48", "text": "miles away. The hospital wing was"}, {"end": "03:15:54", "start": "03:15:50", "text": "closed, but that was because they had to"}, {"end": "03:15:55", "start": "03:15:52", "text": "make it sterile enough for new cardiac"}, {"end": "03:15:57", "start": "03:15:54", "text": "equipment that was being delivered. By"}, {"end": "03:16:00", "start": "03:15:55", "text": "the way, that equipment was delivered in"}, {"end": "03:16:02", "start": "03:15:57", "text": "stainless steel boxes by the military."}, {"end": "03:16:03", "start": "03:16:00", "text": "The body bag was a recently exumed"}, {"end": "03:16:05", "start": "03:16:02", "text": "cadaavver that was part of a police"}, {"end": "03:16:07", "start": "03:16:03", "text": "investigation. What people thought were"}, {"end": "03:16:09", "start": "03:16:05", "text": "aliens at the hospital were actually a"}, {"end": "03:16:11", "start": "03:16:07", "text": "dwarf couple there to have a baby, and"}, {"end": "03:16:13", "start": "03:16:09", "text": "they were helped in by a soldier. Now,"}, {"end": "03:16:15", "start": "03:16:11", "text": "some of those facts sound perfectly"}, {"end": "03:16:17", "start": "03:16:13", "text": "reasonable to me. Others, like the"}, {"end": "03:16:19", "start": "03:16:15", "text": "pregnant dwarf, not so much. But that's"}, {"end": "03:16:21", "start": "03:16:17", "text": "part of the story. It's all a cover up."}, {"end": "03:16:23", "start": "03:16:19", "text": "The military altered the records after"}, {"end": "03:16:25", "start": "03:16:21", "text": "the fact. They even gave a very sketchy"}, {"end": "03:16:31", "start": "03:16:23", "text": "press conference about this."}, {"end": "03:16:31", "start": "03:16:25", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "03:16:56", "start": "03:16:51", "text": "Is General Lima covering up? He acts"}, {"end": "03:16:58", "start": "03:16:54", "text": "like it, but if there really wasn't"}, {"end": "03:17:00", "start": "03:16:56", "text": "anything weird about this incident, the"}, {"end": "03:17:02", "start": "03:16:58", "text": "general would be pretty irritated that"}, {"end": "03:17:03", "start": "03:17:00", "text": "he'd have to deal with any of this. So,"}, {"end": "03:17:05", "start": "03:17:02", "text": "how you read him and any of the"}, {"end": "03:17:07", "start": "03:17:03", "text": "witnesses really comes down to your"}, {"end": "03:17:10", "start": "03:17:05", "text": "point of view and toward which side you"}, {"end": "03:17:12", "start": "03:17:07", "text": "lean, skeptic or believer. If you watch"}, {"end": "03:17:14", "start": "03:17:10", "text": "James Fox's moment of contact, some of"}, {"end": "03:17:16", "start": "03:17:12", "text": "the witnesses are compelling. In the"}, {"end": "03:17:19", "start": "03:17:14", "text": "case of Marco Daza, the man who found"}, {"end": "03:17:21", "start": "03:17:16", "text": "the craft in the field, he's so overcome"}, {"end": "03:17:24", "start": "03:17:19", "text": "that he breaks down into tears."}, {"end": "03:17:24", "start": "03:17:21", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "03:17:33", "start": "03:17:28", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "03:17:42", "start": "03:17:31", "text": "Wow."}, {"end": "03:17:43", "start": "03:17:33", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "03:17:47", "start": "03:17:42", "text": "Oh,"}, {"end": "03:17:47", "start": "03:17:43", "text": "for key you"}, {"end": "03:17:52", "start": "03:17:49", "text": "[Applause]"}, {"end": "03:18:02", "start": "03:17:59", "text": "serious war."}, {"end": "03:18:09", "start": "03:18:02", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "03:18:12", "start": "03:18:08", "text": "Now, if he's acting, he should leave"}, {"end": "03:18:13", "start": "03:18:09", "text": "Brazil and move to Hollywood. Fox gets"}, {"end": "03:18:15", "start": "03:18:12", "text": "statements not just from local"}, {"end": "03:18:17", "start": "03:18:13", "text": "residents, but from doctors and people"}, {"end": "03:18:19", "start": "03:18:15", "text": "in the military. They all say it"}, {"end": "03:18:21", "start": "03:18:17", "text": "happened, and they give vivid details"}, {"end": "03:18:23", "start": "03:18:19", "text": "about what they saw. Yes, some people"}, {"end": "03:18:26", "start": "03:18:21", "text": "won't talk. Others talk but with their"}, {"end": "03:18:28", "start": "03:18:23", "text": "faces blurred and voices changed. But"}, {"end": "03:18:30", "start": "03:18:26", "text": "some people put their names and faces"}, {"end": "03:18:32", "start": "03:18:28", "text": "out there for everyone to see. Now, it's"}, {"end": "03:18:33", "start": "03:18:30", "text": "been so long that these people could be"}, {"end": "03:18:35", "start": "03:18:32", "text": "misremembering, but they don't come"}, {"end": "03:18:37", "start": "03:18:33", "text": "across as liars. But there's no way to"}, {"end": "03:18:39", "start": "03:18:35", "text": "tell if what they're saying is true."}, {"end": "03:18:41", "start": "03:18:37", "text": "There is one man who could settle this"}, {"end": "03:18:43", "start": "03:18:39", "text": "entire case once and for all. Eric"}, {"end": "03:18:45", "start": "03:18:41", "text": "Lopes. He was driving the car when Marco"}, {"end": "03:18:47", "start": "03:18:43", "text": "Sharz captured the alien. He saw"}, {"end": "03:18:49", "start": "03:18:45", "text": "everything, but he's willing to shoot"}, {"end": "03:18:52", "start": "03:18:47", "text": "people who want to talk to him about"}, {"end": "03:18:53", "start": "03:18:49", "text": "this. Is he afraid? Or is he an old"}, {"end": "03:18:56", "start": "03:18:52", "text": "angry man living in poverty who's sick"}, {"end": "03:18:58", "start": "03:18:53", "text": "of people bothering him about this? If"}, {"end": "03:19:00", "start": "03:18:56", "text": "he came forward to confirm that Marco"}, {"end": "03:19:02", "start": "03:18:58", "text": "did capture an alien, then the entire"}, {"end": "03:19:05", "start": "03:19:00", "text": "official story unravels and you could"}, {"end": "03:19:07", "start": "03:19:02", "text": "throw away that thousandpage army report"}, {"end": "03:19:09", "start": "03:19:05", "text": "and you can start rewriting history"}, {"end": "03:19:11", "start": "03:19:07", "text": "because Eric Lopes is one of the few"}, {"end": "03:19:14", "start": "03:19:09", "text": "people on the face of the planet who"}, {"end": "03:19:17", "start": "03:19:11", "text": "could confirm 100% without a doubt that"}, {"end": "03:19:19", "start": "03:19:14", "text": "aliens are real and they are here. For"}, {"end": "03:19:21", "start": "03:19:17", "text": "now, the Brazilian military and"}, {"end": "03:19:22", "start": "03:19:19", "text": "government deny everything. And if the"}, {"end": "03:19:25", "start": "03:19:21", "text": "Brazilian government is working with the"}, {"end": "03:19:29", "start": "03:19:22", "text": "United States on a cover up, well,"}, {"end": "03:19:29", "start": "03:19:25", "text": "they're learning from the best."}, {"end": "03:19:35", "start": "03:19:30", "text": ">> That's 3 + 5 plus 0."}, {"end": "03:19:38", "start": "03:19:33", "text": ">> If you want to learn more about that"}, {"end": "03:19:40", "start": "03:19:35", "text": "story, you can check out,"}, {"end": "03:19:43", "start": "03:19:38", "text": "he has a lot of them. U Moment of a"}, {"end": "03:19:45", "start": "03:19:40", "text": "Contact by James Fox. Uh I don't know if"}, {"end": "03:19:46", "start": "03:19:43", "text": "you you would recognize James Fox if you"}, {"end": "03:19:48", "start": "03:19:45", "text": "saw him. He's been on Joe Rogan a bunch"}, {"end": "03:19:50", "start": "03:19:46", "text": "of times. He does great documentaries"}, {"end": "03:19:52", "start": "03:19:48", "text": "about this. Nobody covers this stuff"}, {"end": "03:19:55", "start": "03:19:50", "text": "better than uh than James does. And he"}, {"end": "03:20:01", "start": "03:19:52", "text": "also covers the Zimbabwe incident in the"}, {"end": "03:20:01", "start": "03:19:55", "text": "phenomenon. So, um that's good stuff."}, {"end": "03:20:05", "start": "03:20:01", "text": "Now, where are you?"}, {"end": "03:20:09", "start": "03:20:02", "text": ">> 50 ft underground. I found this on"}, {"end": "03:20:10", "start": "03:20:05", "text": "Airbnb. Authentic Cold War experience."}, {"end": "03:20:12", "start": "03:20:09", "text": ">> Doesn't look very nice."}, {"end": "03:20:15", "start": "03:20:10", "text": ">> It's not. I didn't read the fine print"}, {"end": "03:20:16", "start": "03:20:12", "text": "which said authentic Soviet Cold War"}, {"end": "03:20:17", "start": "03:20:15", "text": "experience."}, {"end": "03:20:20", "start": "03:20:16", "text": ">> Oh no."}, {"end": "03:20:22", "start": "03:20:17", "text": ">> Two stars. H maybe one and a half. The"}, {"end": "03:20:25", "start": "03:20:20", "text": "blast door is plywood. The air"}, {"end": "03:20:26", "start": "03:20:22", "text": "filtration system is a box fan duct"}, {"end": "03:20:27", "start": "03:20:25", "text": "taped to a hole in the wall."}, {"end": "03:20:29", "start": "03:20:26", "text": ">> Yeah, I don't think you can survive a"}, {"end": "03:20:30", "start": "03:20:27", "text": "nuclear attack in there."}, {"end": "03:20:31", "start": "03:20:29", "text": ">> Are you kidding? This thing couldn't"}, {"end": "03:20:32", "start": "03:20:30", "text": "survive a light ray."}, {"end": "03:20:35", "start": "03:20:31", "text": ">> Well, is there food at least?"}, {"end": "03:20:37", "start": "03:20:32", "text": ">> Emergency rations and they expired"}, {"end": "03:20:39", "start": "03:20:35", "text": "during the Clinton administration."}, {"end": "03:20:40", "start": "03:20:37", "text": ">> Oh, stop. You know the rules."}, {"end": "03:20:42", "start": "03:20:39", "text": ">> Yeah, I know. I know. But we don't make"}, {"end": "03:20:44", "start": "03:20:40", "text": "jokes about the Clinton. I know. All"}, {"end": "03:20:45", "start": "03:20:42", "text": "right. All right. Let me go. It's It's"}, {"end": "03:20:46", "start": "03:20:44", "text": "my turn to use the bucket."}, {"end": "03:20:49", "start": "03:20:45", "text": ">> The bucket."}, {"end": "03:20:49", "start": "03:20:46", "text": ">> The bucket."}, {"end": "03:20:54", "start": "03:20:50", "text": ">> Yeah. And before you ask, the answer is"}, {"end": "03:20:56", "start": "03:20:52", "text": "yes, we are. And it's a bit"}, {"end": "03:21:00", "start": "03:20:54", "text": "traumatizing. Thank you very much. It's"}, {"end": "03:21:02", "start": "03:20:56", "text": "Code Brown all day over here. All day"}, {"end": "03:21:05", "start": "03:21:00", "text": "long. Goodbye."}, {"end": "03:21:07", "start": "03:21:02", "text": ">> I'm traumatized as well. Um,"}, {"end": "03:21:09", "start": "03:21:05", "text": "okay. Well, the good news is we're"}, {"end": "03:21:12", "start": "03:21:07", "text": "almost done."}, {"end": "03:21:13", "start": "03:21:09", "text": "Next is I don't even know if people"}, {"end": "03:21:16", "start": "03:21:12", "text": "watch these things that I do in between"}, {"end": "03:21:18", "start": "03:21:13", "text": "the episodes. I hope so because these"}, {"end": "03:21:21", "start": "03:21:16", "text": "are a lot of work."}, {"end": "03:21:24", "start": "03:21:18", "text": "Um, next is uh episode 163. It's called"}, {"end": "03:21:26", "start": "03:21:21", "text": "the Pasigula UFO encounter. And I should"}, {"end": "03:21:31", "start": "03:21:24", "text": "change the title because this one this"}, {"end": "03:21:31", "start": "03:21:26", "text": "is a lot creepier than it sounds."}, {"end": "03:21:38", "start": "03:21:32", "text": "It was a quiet night on October 11th,"}, {"end": "03:21:39", "start": "03:21:34", "text": "1973 in Pascula, Mississippi. Calvin"}, {"end": "03:21:42", "start": "03:21:38", "text": "Parker and Charles Hixon were friends"}, {"end": "03:21:44", "start": "03:21:39", "text": "and co-workers at a local shipyard."}, {"end": "03:21:46", "start": "03:21:42", "text": "After a long day of work, they decided"}, {"end": "03:21:48", "start": "03:21:44", "text": "to unwind by doing a little fishing."}, {"end": "03:21:51", "start": "03:21:46", "text": "They chatted about work, family, and"}, {"end": "03:21:52", "start": "03:21:48", "text": "life while casting their lines into the"}, {"end": "03:21:55", "start": "03:21:51", "text": "water. They didn't know that their lives"}, {"end": "03:21:59", "start": "03:21:52", "text": "were about to change forever. Calvin and"}, {"end": "03:22:01", "start": "03:21:55", "text": "Charles saw a large UFO, but that didn't"}, {"end": "03:22:03", "start": "03:21:59", "text": "scare them. What came out of it did."}, {"end": "03:22:06", "start": "03:22:01", "text": "They weren't little pale beings with big"}, {"end": "03:22:09", "start": "03:22:03", "text": "black eyes. These creatures were"}, {"end": "03:22:11", "start": "03:22:06", "text": "monsters. Charles and Calvin's fear"}, {"end": "03:22:14", "start": "03:22:09", "text": "increased as the monsters moved closer"}, {"end": "03:22:16", "start": "03:22:11", "text": "and closer. Suddenly, both men were"}, {"end": "03:22:18", "start": "03:22:14", "text": "completely paralyzed. They couldn't run."}, {"end": "03:22:20", "start": "03:22:16", "text": "They couldn't move. They couldn't cry"}, {"end": "03:22:23", "start": "03:22:18", "text": "for help. All they can do was wait and"}, {"end": "03:22:25", "start": "03:22:20", "text": "see what happened next. The monsters"}, {"end": "03:22:27", "start": "03:22:23", "text": "grabbed them. And Calvin and Charles,"}, {"end": "03:22:30", "start": "03:22:25", "text": "still unable to move, were taken aboard"}, {"end": "03:22:33", "start": "03:22:27", "text": "the craft. And that's when the nightmare"}, {"end": "03:22:33", "start": "03:22:30", "text": "began."}, {"end": "03:22:45", "start": "03:22:41", "text": "Charles Hixon and Calvin Parker were"}, {"end": "03:22:46", "start": "03:22:43", "text": "co-workers at a ship building company."}, {"end": "03:22:49", "start": "03:22:45", "text": "After a tough day at work, they went to"}, {"end": "03:22:50", "start": "03:22:46", "text": "the Pascula River and found a quiet spot"}, {"end": "03:22:53", "start": "03:22:49", "text": "on a pier to do a little fishing."}, {"end": "03:22:56", "start": "03:22:50", "text": ">> Yeah, hold on. Let me fix that for you."}, {"end": "03:22:58", "start": "03:22:53", "text": "They found a quiet spot on a pier to do"}, {"end": "03:22:58", "start": "03:22:56", "text": "a little murdering."}, {"end": "03:23:01", "start": "03:22:58", "text": ">> Do you mind?"}, {"end": "03:23:03", "start": "03:22:58", "text": ">> Sorry. Sorry. I lost a lot of good"}, {"end": "03:23:06", "start": "03:23:01", "text": "friends to the hook. The wounds are"}, {"end": "03:23:08", "start": "03:23:03", "text": "still raw. Uh, go ahead."}, {"end": "03:23:10", "start": "03:23:06", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "03:23:13", "start": "03:23:08", "text": ">> A blue light appeared in the sky,"}, {"end": "03:23:15", "start": "03:23:10", "text": "growing larger as it approached. It came"}, {"end": "03:23:18", "start": "03:23:13", "text": "from a disshaped craft about 40 ft long"}, {"end": "03:23:21", "start": "03:23:15", "text": "and 10 ft tall. It hovered above the"}, {"end": "03:23:23", "start": "03:23:18", "text": "water, making a strange buzzing sound."}, {"end": "03:23:25", "start": "03:23:21", "text": "Three creatures floated out, also"}, {"end": "03:23:28", "start": "03:23:23", "text": "hovering above the ground. They were"}, {"end": "03:23:30", "start": "03:23:25", "text": "about 5t tall with pale, wrinkled skin."}, {"end": "03:23:33", "start": "03:23:28", "text": "Their heads connected directly to their"}, {"end": "03:23:35", "start": "03:23:30", "text": "shoulders. Their faces were grotesque"}, {"end": "03:23:39", "start": "03:23:33", "text": "with pointy protrusions instead of noses"}, {"end": "03:23:39", "start": "03:23:35", "text": "and ears."}, {"end": "03:23:45", "start": "03:23:39", "text": "Their large round eyes seemed lifeless."}, {"end": "03:23:47", "start": "03:23:43", "text": "Instead of hands, the beings had"}, {"end": "03:23:49", "start": "03:23:45", "text": "crablike claws at the ends of their"}, {"end": "03:23:51", "start": "03:23:47", "text": "arms."}, {"end": "03:23:54", "start": "03:23:49", "text": ">> Claws like the crab cat."}, {"end": "03:23:58", "start": "03:23:51", "text": ">> Yes, they had claws like a crab cat."}, {"end": "03:23:58", "start": "03:23:54", "text": ">> Fear the crab cat."}, {"end": "03:24:03", "start": "03:23:58", "text": "The creatures made an eerie buzzing"}, {"end": "03:24:06", "start": "03:24:00", "text": "sound as they drew closer. Charles and"}, {"end": "03:24:08", "start": "03:24:03", "text": "Calvin became paralyzed with fear. Then"}, {"end": "03:24:10", "start": "03:24:06", "text": "they realized it wasn't fear that"}, {"end": "03:24:12", "start": "03:24:08", "text": "paralyzed them. The creatures had done"}, {"end": "03:24:14", "start": "03:24:10", "text": "something to them, and they were"}, {"end": "03:24:16", "start": "03:24:12", "text": "helpless."}, {"end": "03:24:18", "start": "03:24:14", "text": "The beings grabbed Calvin and Charles"}, {"end": "03:24:21", "start": "03:24:16", "text": "with their claws, lifting them off the"}, {"end": "03:24:24", "start": "03:24:18", "text": "ground. The men felt weightless. Calvin,"}, {"end": "03:24:27", "start": "03:24:21", "text": "overwhelmed by terror, fainted, and he"}, {"end": "03:24:29", "start": "03:24:24", "text": "was lucky. Charles felt numb and"}, {"end": "03:24:32", "start": "03:24:27", "text": "detached, as if his mind were separated"}, {"end": "03:24:35", "start": "03:24:29", "text": "from his body. The beings carrying"}, {"end": "03:24:37", "start": "03:24:32", "text": "Charles and Calvin started floating back"}, {"end": "03:24:39", "start": "03:24:35", "text": "to the craft."}, {"end": "03:24:41", "start": "03:24:37", "text": "As they approached the ship, a section"}, {"end": "03:24:44", "start": "03:24:39", "text": "of the hull rippled like water. The"}, {"end": "03:24:45", "start": "03:24:41", "text": "metal vanished, creating an entrance."}, {"end": "03:24:48", "start": "03:24:44", "text": "Charles was paralyzed and could only"}, {"end": "03:24:50", "start": "03:24:45", "text": "move his eyes, which were now assaulted"}, {"end": "03:24:52", "start": "03:24:48", "text": "by blinding light. Charles's mind was"}, {"end": "03:24:55", "start": "03:24:50", "text": "racing. He couldn't move. He couldn't"}, {"end": "03:24:58", "start": "03:24:52", "text": "see. He was trapped. He could feel the"}, {"end": "03:25:00", "start": "03:24:55", "text": "creatures surrounding him. As cold claws"}, {"end": "03:25:02", "start": "03:24:58", "text": "pressed against his skin, he closed his"}, {"end": "03:25:05", "start": "03:25:00", "text": "eyes and prayed that this was all a"}, {"end": "03:25:08", "start": "03:25:02", "text": "dream. He prayed to wake up. His prayers"}, {"end": "03:25:10", "start": "03:25:05", "text": "went unanswered."}, {"end": "03:25:13", "start": "03:25:08", "text": "This was no dream. It was a nightmare,"}, {"end": "03:25:17", "start": "03:25:10", "text": "but he was wide awake. And the nightmare"}, {"end": "03:25:17", "start": "03:25:13", "text": "was just getting started."}, {"end": "03:25:26", "start": "03:25:21", "text": "Calvin woke up on a flat metallic"}, {"end": "03:25:28", "start": "03:25:23", "text": "surface inside the alien craft. He was"}, {"end": "03:25:30", "start": "03:25:26", "text": "in a round room filled with harsh white"}, {"end": "03:25:33", "start": "03:25:28", "text": "light, which seemed to come from the"}, {"end": "03:25:36", "start": "03:25:30", "text": "walls themselves."}, {"end": "03:25:38", "start": "03:25:33", "text": "The air inside the craft felt thick. It"}, {"end": "03:25:40", "start": "03:25:36", "text": "had a metallic scent like ozone after a"}, {"end": "03:25:43", "start": "03:25:38", "text": "lightning strike. He also smelled"}, {"end": "03:25:46", "start": "03:25:40", "text": "something sour, like ammonia. As"}, {"end": "03:25:49", "start": "03:25:43", "text": "Calvin's eyes adjusted, he realized he"}, {"end": "03:25:50", "start": "03:25:46", "text": "wasn't alone. A female alien stood over"}, {"end": "03:25:53", "start": "03:25:49", "text": "him. She looked different from the"}, {"end": "03:25:55", "start": "03:25:50", "text": "others, more humanoid with large"}, {"end": "03:25:57", "start": "03:25:53", "text": "almond-shaped eyes and delicate"}, {"end": "03:26:00", "start": "03:25:55", "text": "features. She tried to reassure Calvin"}, {"end": "03:26:03", "start": "03:25:57", "text": "telepathically that he was safe. It"}, {"end": "03:26:05", "start": "03:26:00", "text": "didn't work. He felt dread as she"}, {"end": "03:26:07", "start": "03:26:03", "text": "started examining him, applying pressure"}, {"end": "03:26:09", "start": "03:26:05", "text": "to different parts of his body. The"}, {"end": "03:26:11", "start": "03:26:07", "text": "female alien stepped back and"}, {"end": "03:26:11", "start": "03:26:09", "text": "telepathically said, \"I'm not going to"}, {"end": "03:26:14", "start": "03:26:11", "text": "hurt you.\""}, {"end": "03:26:16", "start": "03:26:11", "text": ">> \"No, no, this is how I know she's about"}, {"end": "03:26:18", "start": "03:26:14", "text": "to hurt him.\" She pinched his cheek,"}, {"end": "03:26:19", "start": "03:26:16", "text": "slid her hand down his mouth, and held"}, {"end": "03:26:20", "start": "03:26:18", "text": "his jaw open."}, {"end": "03:26:23", "start": "03:26:19", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"end": "03:26:25", "start": "03:26:20", "text": ">> On her other hand, long, thin probes"}, {"end": "03:26:28", "start": "03:26:23", "text": "grew from the alien's middle fingers."}, {"end": "03:26:30", "start": "03:26:25", "text": ">> Oh, no. Not the finger probes. She"}, {"end": "03:26:31", "start": "03:26:28", "text": "didn't uh uh, you know, uh, flip them"}, {"end": "03:26:34", "start": "03:26:30", "text": "over, did she?"}, {"end": "03:26:36", "start": "03:26:31", "text": ">> No. She shoved her middle fingers down"}, {"end": "03:26:39", "start": "03:26:34", "text": "Calvin's throat and up towards his nasal"}, {"end": "03:26:42", "start": "03:26:36", "text": "cavity. Calvin felt sharp pain and tried"}, {"end": "03:26:44", "start": "03:26:39", "text": "to scream, but couldn't. He was choking."}, {"end": "03:26:46", "start": "03:26:42", "text": "again. He heard her say, \"Don't be"}, {"end": "03:26:49", "start": "03:26:44", "text": "afraid.\" Then she extracted something"}, {"end": "03:26:51", "start": "03:26:46", "text": "from his nose. Meanwhile, Charles was in"}, {"end": "03:26:53", "start": "03:26:49", "text": "another room going through a similar"}, {"end": "03:26:56", "start": "03:26:51", "text": "ordeal. Three of the original beings"}, {"end": "03:26:59", "start": "03:26:53", "text": "surrounded him. They used their claws to"}, {"end": "03:27:02", "start": "03:26:56", "text": "examine his body. Their movements seemed"}, {"end": "03:27:04", "start": "03:26:59", "text": "unnatural and robotic. These beings also"}, {"end": "03:27:06", "start": "03:27:02", "text": "communicated telepathically, but they"}, {"end": "03:27:08", "start": "03:27:04", "text": "weren't trying to reassure Charles. They"}, {"end": "03:27:10", "start": "03:27:06", "text": "were probing his mind, dissecting his"}, {"end": "03:27:14", "start": "03:27:08", "text": "thoughts and memories. He tried to"}, {"end": "03:27:15", "start": "03:27:10", "text": "resist, but he was powerless. Then a"}, {"end": "03:27:18", "start": "03:27:14", "text": "metal object about the size of a"}, {"end": "03:27:20", "start": "03:27:15", "text": "football floated over him. He felt it"}, {"end": "03:27:23", "start": "03:27:18", "text": "scanning him. It moved up and down his"}, {"end": "03:27:25", "start": "03:27:20", "text": "body, then around his head."}, {"end": "03:27:27", "start": "03:27:23", "text": "While Charles and Calvin were undergoing"}, {"end": "03:27:30", "start": "03:27:25", "text": "their procedures, they saw other beings"}, {"end": "03:27:33", "start": "03:27:27", "text": "moving around performing tasks. A few"}, {"end": "03:27:35", "start": "03:27:30", "text": "beings were still and silent, observing"}, {"end": "03:27:38", "start": "03:27:33", "text": "them intensely. There were consoles"}, {"end": "03:27:40", "start": "03:27:35", "text": "around the rooms. Each had blinking"}, {"end": "03:27:42", "start": "03:27:38", "text": "lights and projected holographic symbols"}, {"end": "03:27:45", "start": "03:27:40", "text": "in the air. The symbols reminded them of"}, {"end": "03:27:47", "start": "03:27:42", "text": "hieroglyphics. They moved and changed"}, {"end": "03:27:49", "start": "03:27:45", "text": "shape as the aliens did their work."}, {"end": "03:27:52", "start": "03:27:47", "text": "Charles and Calvin also felt that the"}, {"end": "03:27:54", "start": "03:27:49", "text": "craft was more than just a machine. It"}, {"end": "03:27:56", "start": "03:27:52", "text": "felt alive and sensient and aware of"}, {"end": "03:27:59", "start": "03:27:54", "text": "them. They could feel it observing them"}, {"end": "03:28:02", "start": "03:27:56", "text": "and probing their minds. The craft"}, {"end": "03:28:04", "start": "03:27:59", "text": "emitted a strange rhythmic buzzing sound"}, {"end": "03:28:06", "start": "03:28:02", "text": "that was so disorienting they had to"}, {"end": "03:28:10", "start": "03:28:04", "text": "resist the urge to vomit. Oh, that's how"}, {"end": "03:28:10", "start": "03:28:06", "text": "I feel when I listen to K-pop."}, {"end": "03:28:15", "start": "03:28:10", "text": ">> It was becoming too much. The symbols"}, {"end": "03:28:17", "start": "03:28:13", "text": "floating in the air, the sounds, the"}, {"end": "03:28:20", "start": "03:28:15", "text": "lights, the smells, the entire"}, {"end": "03:28:22", "start": "03:28:17", "text": "experience was a twisted nightmare. The"}, {"end": "03:28:24", "start": "03:28:20", "text": "human mind was not designed to"}, {"end": "03:28:27", "start": "03:28:22", "text": "comprehend any of this. Calvin, still"}, {"end": "03:28:30", "start": "03:28:24", "text": "being examined by the female alien, felt"}, {"end": "03:28:32", "start": "03:28:27", "text": "himself passing out again. As his"}, {"end": "03:28:34", "start": "03:28:30", "text": "consciousness began to fade, images"}, {"end": "03:28:37", "start": "03:28:32", "text": "flashed through his mind. Hundreds,"}, {"end": "03:28:40", "start": "03:28:34", "text": "maybe thousands of human faces, all with"}, {"end": "03:28:43", "start": "03:28:37", "text": "the same look of terror and confusion."}, {"end": "03:28:44", "start": "03:28:40", "text": "Then it hit him. Calvin and Charles"}, {"end": "03:28:47", "start": "03:28:43", "text": "weren't special, and this situation"}, {"end": "03:28:50", "start": "03:28:44", "text": "wasn't unique. This living nightmare was"}, {"end": "03:28:51", "start": "03:28:47", "text": "more common than anyone thought. The"}, {"end": "03:28:55", "start": "03:28:50", "text": "last image that flashed through Calvin's"}, {"end": "03:28:56", "start": "03:28:51", "text": "mind was the female alien's eyes. She"}, {"end": "03:28:59", "start": "03:28:55", "text": "was trying to tell him something,"}, {"end": "03:29:04", "start": "03:28:56", "text": "something important. But before Calvin"}, {"end": "03:29:04", "start": "03:28:59", "text": "could understand, everything went dark."}, {"end": "03:29:12", "start": "03:29:08", "text": "Calvin Parker and Charles Hixon awoke on"}, {"end": "03:29:15", "start": "03:29:10", "text": "the riverbank, disoriented and"}, {"end": "03:29:17", "start": "03:29:12", "text": "terrified."}, {"end": "03:29:19", "start": "03:29:15", "text": "The craft was gone. They thought hours"}, {"end": "03:29:21", "start": "03:29:17", "text": "had passed, but it had only been 20"}, {"end": "03:29:23", "start": "03:29:19", "text": "minutes. Once they regained their"}, {"end": "03:29:25", "start": "03:29:21", "text": "composure, they decided to report the"}, {"end": "03:29:28", "start": "03:29:23", "text": "incident. First, they called the Air"}, {"end": "03:29:29", "start": "03:29:25", "text": "Force, who were dismissive. They said"}, {"end": "03:29:31", "start": "03:29:28", "text": "they should go to the police. The Air"}, {"end": "03:29:34", "start": "03:29:29", "text": "Force doesn't handle UFOs."}, {"end": "03:29:36", "start": "03:29:31", "text": ">> Yeah. In other words, go to the police"}, {"end": "03:29:37", "start": "03:29:34", "text": "station so we can get down there and"}, {"end": "03:29:39", "start": "03:29:36", "text": "secretly investigate."}, {"end": "03:29:41", "start": "03:29:37", "text": ">> Probably."}, {"end": "03:29:42", "start": "03:29:39", "text": "At the station, they explained"}, {"end": "03:29:45", "start": "03:29:41", "text": "everything to the sheriff and the other"}, {"end": "03:29:47", "start": "03:29:42", "text": "officers. Though they were skeptical of"}, {"end": "03:29:49", "start": "03:29:45", "text": "the story, they sensed genuine fear in"}, {"end": "03:29:52", "start": "03:29:47", "text": "their voices. So, the officers decided"}, {"end": "03:29:54", "start": "03:29:49", "text": "to test them. Calvin and Charles were"}, {"end": "03:29:57", "start": "03:29:52", "text": "left alone in a room, unaware that their"}, {"end": "03:29:59", "start": "03:29:54", "text": "conversation was being taped. The"}, {"end": "03:30:01", "start": "03:29:57", "text": "officers were sure they say something to"}, {"end": "03:30:03", "start": "03:29:59", "text": "discredit their story. Instead, what"}, {"end": "03:30:06", "start": "03:30:01", "text": "they heard only helped confirm it. The"}, {"end": "03:30:08", "start": "03:30:03", "text": "recording captured Calvin and Charles"}, {"end": "03:30:12", "start": "03:30:06", "text": "discussing the incident, terrified."}, {"end": "03:30:12", "start": "03:30:08", "text": "There was no sign of deceit."}, {"end": "03:30:22", "start": "03:30:17", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "03:30:24", "start": "03:30:20", "text": "I believe that's my fault. I had been"}, {"end": "03:30:26", "start": "03:30:22", "text": "through enough hell on this earth and"}, {"end": "03:30:28", "start": "03:30:24", "text": "now I got to go through something like"}, {"end": "03:30:30", "start": "03:30:26", "text": "this."}, {"end": "03:30:32", "start": "03:30:28", "text": ">> The recording, now known as the secret"}, {"end": "03:30:35", "start": "03:30:30", "text": "tape, became a key piece of evidence"}, {"end": "03:30:37", "start": "03:30:32", "text": "supporting the men's claims. Calvin and"}, {"end": "03:30:39", "start": "03:30:35", "text": "Charles clearly believed every word of"}, {"end": "03:30:41", "start": "03:30:37", "text": "their story."}, {"end": "03:30:43", "start": "03:30:39", "text": "Many people were convinced that"}, {"end": "03:30:46", "start": "03:30:41", "text": "something extraordinary happened on the"}, {"end": "03:30:48", "start": "03:30:43", "text": "Pascola River that night."}, {"end": "03:30:50", "start": "03:30:46", "text": "Meanwhile, other witnesses reported"}, {"end": "03:30:52", "start": "03:30:48", "text": "strange lights in the sky. Official"}, {"end": "03:30:54", "start": "03:30:50", "text": "records show over 50 separate calls to"}, {"end": "03:30:56", "start": "03:30:52", "text": "the police that evening. Many of them"}, {"end": "03:30:59", "start": "03:30:54", "text": "saw a large oval craft with blue lights"}, {"end": "03:31:02", "start": "03:30:56", "text": "on it, just as Calvin and Charles had"}, {"end": "03:31:05", "start": "03:30:59", "text": "described. The news spread quickly. The"}, {"end": "03:31:06", "start": "03:31:02", "text": "media, UFO believers, and skeptics"}, {"end": "03:31:09", "start": "03:31:05", "text": "descended on the small town like a"}, {"end": "03:31:11", "start": "03:31:06", "text": "hurricane with Calvin and Charles at the"}, {"end": "03:31:14", "start": "03:31:09", "text": "center of it all. This publicity also"}, {"end": "03:31:17", "start": "03:31:11", "text": "brought scrutiny, but both men passed"}, {"end": "03:31:19", "start": "03:31:14", "text": "lie detector tests several times. Never"}, {"end": "03:31:22", "start": "03:31:17", "text": "take a lie detective test."}, {"end": "03:31:24", "start": "03:31:19", "text": ">> That's probably good advice."}, {"end": "03:31:26", "start": "03:31:22", "text": "The incident affected the men"}, {"end": "03:31:28", "start": "03:31:24", "text": "differently. Charles continued speaking"}, {"end": "03:31:30", "start": "03:31:26", "text": "publicly about the encounter. Calvin"}, {"end": "03:31:33", "start": "03:31:28", "text": "struggled with PTSD and wanted to stay"}, {"end": "03:31:36", "start": "03:31:30", "text": "out of the public eye. However, the"}, {"end": "03:31:38", "start": "03:31:33", "text": "Pascula UFO incident had an unexpected"}, {"end": "03:31:40", "start": "03:31:36", "text": "but profound impact. It brought"}, {"end": "03:31:43", "start": "03:31:38", "text": "attention to the fact that alien"}, {"end": "03:31:47", "start": "03:31:40", "text": "abductions were much more common than"}, {"end": "03:31:47", "start": "03:31:43", "text": "anyone could possibly have imagined."}, {"end": "03:31:56", "start": "03:31:51", "text": "The Pascula incident is a fascinating"}, {"end": "03:31:58", "start": "03:31:53", "text": "and terrifying story, but it's far from"}, {"end": "03:31:59", "start": "03:31:56", "text": "unique."}, {"end": "03:32:01", "start": "03:31:58", "text": "Over the years, many people have come"}, {"end": "03:32:03", "start": "03:31:59", "text": "forward with accounts of"}, {"end": "03:32:05", "start": "03:32:01", "text": "extraterrestrial encounters and alien"}, {"end": "03:32:07", "start": "03:32:03", "text": "abductions. You've probably heard of a"}, {"end": "03:32:10", "start": "03:32:05", "text": "few of them. One of the most famous"}, {"end": "03:32:11", "start": "03:32:07", "text": "cases occurred in 1961 when Betty and"}, {"end": "03:32:14", "start": "03:32:10", "text": "Barney Hill claimed to have been"}, {"end": "03:32:16", "start": "03:32:11", "text": "abducted in New Hampshire. The Hills"}, {"end": "03:32:18", "start": "03:32:14", "text": "described small beings with gray skin"}, {"end": "03:32:21", "start": "03:32:16", "text": "and large round eyes who examined them"}, {"end": "03:32:24", "start": "03:32:18", "text": "aboard a spaceship."}, {"end": "03:32:27", "start": "03:32:21", "text": "The Travis Walton abduction in 1975"}, {"end": "03:32:29", "start": "03:32:24", "text": "involved multiple witnesses. Walton"}, {"end": "03:32:31", "start": "03:32:27", "text": "disappeared after he and his logging"}, {"end": "03:32:34", "start": "03:32:29", "text": "crew saw a UFO in the Sit Greavves"}, {"end": "03:32:36", "start": "03:32:31", "text": "National Forest. His co-workers saw him"}, {"end": "03:32:39", "start": "03:32:34", "text": "get struck by a beam of light from the"}, {"end": "03:32:42", "start": "03:32:36", "text": "craft which then disappeared along with"}, {"end": "03:32:44", "start": "03:32:39", "text": "Travis. He was missing for 5 days,"}, {"end": "03:32:47", "start": "03:32:42", "text": "leading to an extensive manhunt. When"}, {"end": "03:32:51", "start": "03:32:44", "text": "Travis reappeared, he said he was aboard"}, {"end": "03:32:53", "start": "03:32:47", "text": "a craft with small, largeeyed creatures."}, {"end": "03:32:56", "start": "03:32:51", "text": "Travis actually escaped his examination"}, {"end": "03:32:58", "start": "03:32:53", "text": "room and wandered around the craft. Then"}, {"end": "03:33:01", "start": "03:32:56", "text": "he encountered taller beings that were"}, {"end": "03:33:03", "start": "03:32:58", "text": "more humanlike."}, {"end": "03:33:06", "start": "03:33:01", "text": "In 1985, Whitley Shriber was abducted"}, {"end": "03:33:08", "start": "03:33:03", "text": "from his cabin in upstate New York. He"}, {"end": "03:33:11", "start": "03:33:06", "text": "described his abductors as short with"}, {"end": "03:33:13", "start": "03:33:08", "text": "large eyes and heads. Striber wrote the"}, {"end": "03:33:15", "start": "03:33:11", "text": "book Communion about his experience. He"}, {"end": "03:33:17", "start": "03:33:13", "text": "gave vivid details about the painful"}, {"end": "03:33:20", "start": "03:33:15", "text": "procedures he endured. During one"}, {"end": "03:33:22", "start": "03:33:17", "text": "examination, a needle was inserted into"}, {"end": "03:33:22", "start": "03:33:20", "text": "his brain."}, {"end": "03:33:25", "start": "03:33:22", "text": ">> What?"}, {"end": "03:33:25", "start": "03:33:22", "text": ">> He had another procedure that you failed"}, {"end": "03:33:27", "start": "03:33:25", "text": "to mention. Well,"}, {"end": "03:33:27", "start": "03:33:25", "text": ">> I don't think it's important to detail"}, {"end": "03:33:29", "start": "03:33:27", "text": "everything."}, {"end": "03:33:30", "start": "03:33:27", "text": ">> Yeah, you just don't want to say it."}, {"end": "03:33:33", "start": "03:33:29", "text": ">> No, I just"}, {"end": "03:33:33", "start": "03:33:30", "text": ">> Anal probe."}, {"end": "03:33:35", "start": "03:33:33", "text": "Anal probe."}, {"end": "03:33:38", "start": "03:33:33", "text": ">> I heard you."}, {"end": "03:33:40", "start": "03:33:35", "text": "Anyway, Communion became a bestseller"}, {"end": "03:33:41", "start": "03:33:38", "text": "and renewed public interest in alien"}, {"end": "03:33:42", "start": "03:33:40", "text": "abductions. It was even made into a"}, {"end": "03:33:44", "start": "03:33:41", "text": "movie."}, {"end": "03:33:46", "start": "03:33:42", "text": ">> Yeah, but not a very good one."}, {"end": "03:33:48", "start": "03:33:44", "text": ">> True, Communion wasn't a great movie,"}, {"end": "03:33:49", "start": "03:33:46", "text": "but it stars Christopher Walkin and he's"}, {"end": "03:33:52", "start": "03:33:48", "text": "fun to watch in anything."}, {"end": "03:33:54", "start": "03:33:49", "text": ">> Yeah, that movie needed fewer anal"}, {"end": "03:33:54", "start": "03:33:52", "text": "probes and more cowbell."}, {"end": "03:33:56", "start": "03:33:54", "text": ">> Agreed."}, {"end": "03:34:00", "start": "03:33:54", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"end": "03:34:02", "start": "03:33:56", "text": ">> The Alagash abductions in 1976 involved"}, {"end": "03:34:04", "start": "03:34:00", "text": "four men on a camping trip in Maine."}, {"end": "03:34:06", "start": "03:34:02", "text": "They were taken aboard a craft and"}, {"end": "03:34:09", "start": "03:34:04", "text": "examined by beings with large heads,"}, {"end": "03:34:11", "start": "03:34:06", "text": "long necks, and slim bodies. Like"}, {"end": "03:34:14", "start": "03:34:09", "text": "Pascula, this event had multiple"}, {"end": "03:34:17", "start": "03:34:11", "text": "witnesses. These cases share similar"}, {"end": "03:34:20", "start": "03:34:14", "text": "details: paralysis, levitation,"}, {"end": "03:34:22", "start": "03:34:17", "text": "telepathic communication, and invasive"}, {"end": "03:34:24", "start": "03:34:20", "text": "procedures."}, {"end": "03:34:27", "start": "03:34:22", "text": "Most abductions are single incidents."}, {"end": "03:34:29", "start": "03:34:24", "text": "The victims are left traumatized, but"}, {"end": "03:34:32", "start": "03:34:27", "text": "thankfully it never happens again. But"}, {"end": "03:34:35", "start": "03:34:29", "text": "in some cases, the abduction is only the"}, {"end": "03:34:35", "start": "03:34:32", "text": "beginning."}, {"end": "03:34:43", "start": "03:34:38", "text": "Charles Hixon's Pascagula incident was"}, {"end": "03:34:46", "start": "03:34:41", "text": "just the beginning. He had several more"}, {"end": "03:34:49", "start": "03:34:43", "text": "alien encounters in the following years."}, {"end": "03:34:52", "start": "03:34:46", "text": "In January 1974, a female entity visited"}, {"end": "03:34:55", "start": "03:34:49", "text": "his home. He described her as tall and"}, {"end": "03:34:56", "start": "03:34:52", "text": "beautiful with pale skin and large"}, {"end": "03:34:59", "start": "03:34:55", "text": "almond-shaped eyes."}, {"end": "03:34:59", "start": "03:34:56", "text": ">> Oh, we called the service. No, she came"}, {"end": "03:35:00", "start": "03:34:59", "text": "on her own"}, {"end": "03:35:02", "start": "03:34:59", "text": ">> to do what?"}, {"end": "03:35:03", "start": "03:35:00", "text": ">> To deliver a message of peace and cosmic"}, {"end": "03:35:05", "start": "03:35:02", "text": "unity."}, {"end": "03:35:07", "start": "03:35:03", "text": ">> Yeah, we should have called a different"}, {"end": "03:35:09", "start": "03:35:05", "text": "service."}, {"end": "03:35:11", "start": "03:35:07", "text": ">> Charles continued having encounters"}, {"end": "03:35:14", "start": "03:35:09", "text": "through the early 1980s. They ranged"}, {"end": "03:35:16", "start": "03:35:11", "text": "from brief UFO sightings to physical"}, {"end": "03:35:19", "start": "03:35:14", "text": "contact with many different races of"}, {"end": "03:35:21", "start": "03:35:16", "text": "aliens. Most aliens expressed concern"}, {"end": "03:35:24", "start": "03:35:19", "text": "about Earth's environment and pollution."}, {"end": "03:35:25", "start": "03:35:21", "text": ">> Uh, how do you say, \"How dare you, an"}, {"end": "03:35:26", "start": "03:35:24", "text": "alien?\""}, {"end": "03:35:28", "start": "03:35:25", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "03:35:31", "start": "03:35:26", "text": "They also worried about nuclear weapons."}, {"end": "03:35:33", "start": "03:35:28", "text": "Some mentioned free energy. One group"}, {"end": "03:35:35", "start": "03:35:31", "text": "claimed humans were placed on Earth as"}, {"end": "03:35:37", "start": "03:35:33", "text": "an experiment. Another showed Charles"}, {"end": "03:35:41", "start": "03:35:35", "text": "visions of their home world and advanced"}, {"end": "03:35:43", "start": "03:35:37", "text": "technology. In 1983, Charles said he"}, {"end": "03:35:46", "start": "03:35:41", "text": "received an alien implant to track him"}, {"end": "03:35:48", "start": "03:35:43", "text": "and monitor his health. These encounters"}, {"end": "03:35:50", "start": "03:35:46", "text": "made Charles wellknown in the UFO"}, {"end": "03:35:52", "start": "03:35:48", "text": "community."}, {"end": "03:35:55", "start": "03:35:50", "text": "As his stories grew more elaborate, they"}, {"end": "03:35:57", "start": "03:35:52", "text": "became controversial. Some dismissed his"}, {"end": "03:35:59", "start": "03:35:55", "text": "claims as attention-seeking. Others"}, {"end": "03:36:02", "start": "03:35:57", "text": "believed aliens were especially"}, {"end": "03:36:04", "start": "03:35:59", "text": "interested in Charles. One thing bothers"}, {"end": "03:36:07", "start": "03:36:02", "text": "me about his stories. When challenged in"}, {"end": "03:36:08", "start": "03:36:04", "text": "interviews, he often said, \"Oh, I answer"}, {"end": "03:36:10", "start": "03:36:07", "text": "that in my book.\""}, {"end": "03:36:14", "start": "03:36:08", "text": ">> There's always a book, isn't there?"}, {"end": "03:36:14", "start": "03:36:10", "text": ">> There's always a book."}, {"end": "03:36:26", "start": "03:36:21", "text": "The Pascula UFO incident is a believable"}, {"end": "03:36:29", "start": "03:36:24", "text": "alien abduction story."}, {"end": "03:36:31", "start": "03:36:26", "text": "Two unwavering witnesses, a secret"}, {"end": "03:36:33", "start": "03:36:29", "text": "recording supporting their claim, other"}, {"end": "03:36:35", "start": "03:36:31", "text": "witnesses seeing the craft. It's"}, {"end": "03:36:40", "start": "03:36:33", "text": "considered one of the most compelling"}, {"end": "03:36:42", "start": "03:36:35", "text": "UFO cases in history. But is it true?"}, {"end": "03:36:45", "start": "03:36:40", "text": "Charles Hixon and Calvin Parker's"}, {"end": "03:36:47", "start": "03:36:42", "text": "accounts are detailed and consistent."}, {"end": "03:36:50", "start": "03:36:45", "text": "However, there's no physical evidence."}, {"end": "03:36:53", "start": "03:36:47", "text": "Let's explore a possible psychological"}, {"end": "03:36:55", "start": "03:36:50", "text": "explanation."}, {"end": "03:36:57", "start": "03:36:53", "text": "Hypnogogic hallucinations are vivid"}, {"end": "03:37:00", "start": "03:36:55", "text": "experiences that occur between"}, {"end": "03:37:02", "start": "03:36:57", "text": "wakefulness and sleep, and they feel"}, {"end": "03:37:05", "start": "03:37:00", "text": "completely real."}, {"end": "03:37:05", "start": "03:37:02", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "03:37:13", "start": "03:37:09", "text": "These can include seeing strange"}, {"end": "03:37:16", "start": "03:37:10", "text": "figures, hearing voices, or feeling a"}, {"end": "03:37:16", "start": "03:37:13", "text": "presence."}, {"end": "03:37:21", "start": "03:37:16", "text": "The paralysis reported by Charles and"}, {"end": "03:37:24", "start": "03:37:18", "text": "Calvin resembles sleep paralysis. As"}, {"end": "03:37:26", "start": "03:37:21", "text": "your brain goes to sleep, it shuts down"}, {"end": "03:37:28", "start": "03:37:24", "text": "your motor functions so you don't act"}, {"end": "03:37:30", "start": "03:37:26", "text": "out your dreams."}, {"end": "03:37:31", "start": "03:37:28", "text": "We're almost always unconscious when"}, {"end": "03:37:33", "start": "03:37:30", "text": "this happens."}, {"end": "03:37:37", "start": "03:37:31", "text": "But if you're awake and experiencing"}, {"end": "03:37:39", "start": "03:37:33", "text": "sleep paralysis, it can be terrifying."}, {"end": "03:37:41", "start": "03:37:37", "text": "I'm a lucid dreamer and one of the most"}, {"end": "03:37:44", "start": "03:37:39", "text": "difficult aspects of learning to lucid"}, {"end": "03:37:47", "start": "03:37:41", "text": "dream is overcoming the fear of sleep"}, {"end": "03:37:50", "start": "03:37:44", "text": "paralysis. And you often hear buzzing"}, {"end": "03:37:53", "start": "03:37:47", "text": "sounds during this state. I've heard it."}, {"end": "03:37:56", "start": "03:37:50", "text": "Charles also reported buzzing sounds."}, {"end": "03:37:58", "start": "03:37:53", "text": "Many alien abduction accounts align with"}, {"end": "03:38:01", "start": "03:37:56", "text": "hypnogogic experiences like seeing dark"}, {"end": "03:38:04", "start": "03:37:58", "text": "humanoid figures called shadow people or"}, {"end": "03:38:07", "start": "03:38:01", "text": "the hatman. These entities lurk at the"}, {"end": "03:38:10", "start": "03:38:04", "text": "edge of perception, similar to aliens in"}, {"end": "03:38:10", "start": "03:38:07", "text": "abduction cases."}, {"end": "03:38:17", "start": "03:38:12", "text": "Another phenomenon is the hag or old hag"}, {"end": "03:38:19", "start": "03:38:15", "text": "syndrome. This is when you see a person"}, {"end": "03:38:22", "start": "03:38:17", "text": "often looking like an old witch. You"}, {"end": "03:38:24", "start": "03:38:19", "text": "feel pressure on your body as she climbs"}, {"end": "03:38:27", "start": "03:38:22", "text": "on top of you. Some feel pain or even"}, {"end": "03:38:30", "start": "03:38:24", "text": "sexual violation while paralyzed. This"}, {"end": "03:38:32", "start": "03:38:27", "text": "resembles experiences described by"}, {"end": "03:38:35", "start": "03:38:30", "text": "alleged abductees, including Charles and"}, {"end": "03:38:39", "start": "03:38:32", "text": "Calvin."}, {"end": "03:38:39", "start": "03:38:35", "text": "I've had an old hag experience."}, {"end": "03:38:43", "start": "03:38:41", "text": "I talk about it in our Shadow People"}, {"end": "03:38:46", "start": "03:38:43", "text": "episode."}, {"end": "03:38:48", "start": "03:38:43", "text": ">> Link below to the episode when a human"}, {"end": "03:38:50", "start": "03:38:46", "text": "gets so scared uh he wets the bed."}, {"end": "03:38:52", "start": "03:38:48", "text": ">> Well, I didn't wet the bed, but I'm"}, {"end": "03:38:55", "start": "03:38:50", "text": "being completely honest when I say this"}, {"end": "03:38:57", "start": "03:38:52", "text": "was the scariest experience I ever had"}, {"end": "03:39:00", "start": "03:38:55", "text": "in my life. I don't believe in shadow"}, {"end": "03:39:03", "start": "03:38:57", "text": "people or ghosts, but this felt"}, {"end": "03:39:06", "start": "03:39:00", "text": "absolutely 100% real. I never want to go"}, {"end": "03:39:08", "start": "03:39:03", "text": "through it again."}, {"end": "03:39:11", "start": "03:39:06", "text": "It's possible that Charles was having a"}, {"end": "03:39:13", "start": "03:39:08", "text": "hypnogogic hallucination. The other"}, {"end": "03:39:15", "start": "03:39:11", "text": "details were his mind just filling in"}, {"end": "03:39:18", "start": "03:39:13", "text": "the blanks. At the time, UFO stories"}, {"end": "03:39:20", "start": "03:39:15", "text": "were very popular. So, what about Calvin"}, {"end": "03:39:25", "start": "03:39:18", "text": "Parker? How can two people have the same"}, {"end": "03:39:27", "start": "03:39:20", "text": "hypnogogic experience? Well, they can't."}, {"end": "03:39:29", "start": "03:39:25", "text": "When Charles and Calvin went to the"}, {"end": "03:39:31", "start": "03:39:27", "text": "police, Calvin actually said he was"}, {"end": "03:39:34", "start": "03:39:29", "text": "asleep during the whole incident. It was"}, {"end": "03:39:36", "start": "03:39:31", "text": "only later that the memories came back."}, {"end": "03:39:40", "start": "03:39:34", "text": "Plus, it was Calvin's first day on the"}, {"end": "03:39:42", "start": "03:39:36", "text": "job. He was only 19. Charles was 43, his"}, {"end": "03:39:45", "start": "03:39:40", "text": "superior at work and an authority"}, {"end": "03:39:48", "start": "03:39:42", "text": "figure. Now, I'm not saying Calvin lied,"}, {"end": "03:39:50", "start": "03:39:45", "text": "but human memory is unreliable. If you"}, {"end": "03:39:52", "start": "03:39:48", "text": "hear the same story over and over, your"}, {"end": "03:39:54", "start": "03:39:50", "text": "brain can create actual memories of that"}, {"end": "03:39:57", "start": "03:39:52", "text": "story, whether you experienced it or"}, {"end": "03:39:59", "start": "03:39:54", "text": "not. Calvin was actually hospitalized"}, {"end": "03:40:01", "start": "03:39:57", "text": "for a few weeks after the incident due"}, {"end": "03:40:04", "start": "03:39:59", "text": "to stress and a few more times in the"}, {"end": "03:40:06", "start": "03:40:01", "text": "following years. And by the way, the men"}, {"end": "03:40:07", "start": "03:40:04", "text": "were doing a little bit of drinking"}, {"end": "03:40:11", "start": "03:40:06", "text": "before the incident and a lot of"}, {"end": "03:40:13", "start": "03:40:07", "text": "drinking after."}, {"end": "03:40:15", "start": "03:40:11", "text": "And Charles's story changed over the"}, {"end": "03:40:18", "start": "03:40:13", "text": "years. He added more details and of"}, {"end": "03:40:20", "start": "03:40:15", "text": "course he released a book. Now Calvin"}, {"end": "03:40:22", "start": "03:40:18", "text": "stayed out of the spotlight for about 20"}, {"end": "03:40:25", "start": "03:40:20", "text": "years but then he started speaking"}, {"end": "03:40:29", "start": "03:40:22", "text": "publicly and then he released a book."}, {"end": "03:40:31", "start": "03:40:25", "text": ">> There's always a book."}, {"end": "03:40:33", "start": "03:40:29", "text": ">> Now we do have about 50 reports of"}, {"end": "03:40:35", "start": "03:40:31", "text": "strange objects in the sky with blue"}, {"end": "03:40:38", "start": "03:40:33", "text": "lights. But most of those reports came"}, {"end": "03:40:40", "start": "03:40:35", "text": "after the media coverage but not all of"}, {"end": "03:40:42", "start": "03:40:38", "text": "them. There are plenty of reasons to be"}, {"end": "03:40:44", "start": "03:40:40", "text": "skeptical of the story. But there were"}, {"end": "03:40:47", "start": "03:40:42", "text": "also plenty of details that remain"}, {"end": "03:40:49", "start": "03:40:44", "text": "unexplained. I doubt Charles had all"}, {"end": "03:40:51", "start": "03:40:47", "text": "those additional encounters, but I"}, {"end": "03:40:54", "start": "03:40:49", "text": "believe he thought the first one was"}, {"end": "03:40:55", "start": "03:40:51", "text": "real. Both men were psychologically"}, {"end": "03:40:58", "start": "03:40:54", "text": "traumatized. Now, maybe it was"}, {"end": "03:41:01", "start": "03:40:55", "text": "imagination, but it doesn't matter. The"}, {"end": "03:41:03", "start": "03:40:58", "text": "trauma is real. I have experienced the"}, {"end": "03:41:06", "start": "03:41:01", "text": "terror that can occur in that sliver of"}, {"end": "03:41:08", "start": "03:41:03", "text": "time between wakefulness and sleep. I"}, {"end": "03:41:11", "start": "03:41:06", "text": "was traumatized that night. Maybe it was"}, {"end": "03:41:14", "start": "03:41:08", "text": "just imagination. It doesn't matter. The"}, {"end": "03:41:16", "start": "03:41:11", "text": "trauma is real."}, {"end": "03:41:18", "start": "03:41:14", "text": "There are many people who believe they"}, {"end": "03:41:21", "start": "03:41:16", "text": "were abducted, assaulted, and violated"}, {"end": "03:41:24", "start": "03:41:18", "text": "by some other worldly presence. Maybe it"}, {"end": "03:41:26", "start": "03:41:21", "text": "was aliens, an evil spirit, a demon, or"}, {"end": "03:41:28", "start": "03:41:24", "text": "a shadow person, and they suffer for"}, {"end": "03:41:29", "start": "03:41:26", "text": "years because of it. And if you're one"}, {"end": "03:41:32", "start": "03:41:28", "text": "of those people, I know you've been"}, {"end": "03:41:34", "start": "03:41:29", "text": "dismissed. I know people don't believe"}, {"end": "03:41:36", "start": "03:41:32", "text": "you. But even if it was just your"}, {"end": "03:41:39", "start": "03:41:34", "text": "imagination, it doesn't matter. The"}, {"end": "03:41:41", "start": "03:41:36", "text": "trauma is real."}, {"end": "03:41:43", "start": "03:41:39", "text": "But now you know that in that fraction"}, {"end": "03:41:46", "start": "03:41:41", "text": "of a second, your mind can conjure a"}, {"end": "03:41:48", "start": "03:41:43", "text": "nightmare that can torture you for life."}, {"end": "03:41:50", "start": "03:41:46", "text": "And maybe knowing that this phenomenon"}, {"end": "03:41:52", "start": "03:41:48", "text": "exists can give you just a little bit of"}, {"end": "03:41:55", "start": "03:41:50", "text": "space to start healing. It will take a"}, {"end": "03:41:57", "start": "03:41:52", "text": "little patience and a lot of courage,"}, {"end": "03:42:01", "start": "03:41:55", "text": "but I promise you, you have the strength"}, {"end": "03:42:04", "start": "03:41:57", "text": "to finally find peace."}, {"end": "03:42:04", "start": "03:42:01", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "03:42:10", "start": "03:42:05", "text": ">> 3 + 1 + 0 0. Okay, we're getting there."}, {"end": "03:42:12", "start": "03:42:09", "text": "Coming up on our final episode, and it's"}, {"end": "03:42:14", "start": "03:42:10", "text": "the best in the bunch."}, {"end": "03:42:17", "start": "03:42:12", "text": ">> Human, I found the ultimate place to"}, {"end": "03:42:19", "start": "03:42:14", "text": "hide. Orbit, I'm sneaking a ride on a"}, {"end": "03:42:21", "start": "03:42:17", "text": "Falcon 9. I think we're putting a bunch"}, {"end": "03:42:23", "start": "03:42:19", "text": "of satellites up there. I don't know for"}, {"end": "03:42:25", "start": "03:42:21", "text": "sure. I just heard some weird guy with a"}, {"end": "03:42:25", "start": "03:42:23", "text": "bunch of kids mumbling about it."}, {"end": "03:42:27", "start": "03:42:25", "text": ">> Elon Musk."}, {"end": "03:42:29", "start": "03:42:25", "text": ">> Yeah, I never heard of him."}, {"end": "03:42:31", "start": "03:42:27", "text": ">> Uh, control, we're showing unexpected"}, {"end": "03:42:34", "start": "03:42:29", "text": "mass in the payload section."}, {"end": "03:42:38", "start": "03:42:31", "text": ">> Oh no, that's Gertie. She stuffed"}, {"end": "03:42:40", "start": "03:42:34", "text": "herself behind a communications array."}, {"end": "03:42:42", "start": "03:42:38", "text": "How should I know how long O Zepic takes"}, {"end": "03:42:44", "start": "03:42:40", "text": "to work? What do I look like, miss?"}, {"end": "03:42:45", "start": "03:42:42", "text": "Insert name of any actress. Getting"}, {"end": "03:42:47", "start": "03:42:44", "text": "ready for the premiere."}, {"end": "03:42:48", "start": "03:42:45", "text": ">> Hey, shouldn't you guys be wearing space"}, {"end": "03:42:50", "start": "03:42:47", "text": "suits?"}, {"end": "03:42:52", "start": "03:42:48", "text": ">> Uh uh no."}, {"end": "03:42:55", "start": "03:42:50", "text": ">> T-minus 30 seconds to launch."}, {"end": "03:42:57", "start": "03:42:52", "text": ">> Yeah. Mission control. Abort. Abort."}, {"end": "03:42:58", "start": "03:42:55", "text": "Houston, we have a problem. Tom Hanks,"}, {"end": "03:43:01", "start": "03:42:57", "text": "we have a problem."}, {"end": "03:43:04", "start": "03:42:58", "text": ">> T-minus 10."}, {"end": "03:43:05", "start": "03:43:01", "text": ">> You have no human. Uh tell my guppies I"}, {"end": "03:43:07", "start": "03:43:04", "text": "love them."}, {"end": "03:43:10", "start": "03:43:05", "text": ">> Okay. And no matter what happens, do me"}, {"end": "03:43:10", "start": "03:43:07", "text": "a favor. It's very, very important."}, {"end": "03:43:14", "start": "03:43:10", "text": ">> What?"}, {"end": "03:43:14", "start": "03:43:10", "text": ">> Get rid of my laptop."}, {"end": "03:43:19", "start": "03:43:14", "text": ">> All right, last episode. It's one of my"}, {"end": "03:43:21", "start": "03:43:16", "text": "favorites. It's a classic. It's probably"}, {"end": "03:43:23", "start": "03:43:19", "text": "the most requested episode on the"}, {"end": "03:43:24", "start": "03:43:21", "text": "channel before I did it. People still"}, {"end": "03:43:26", "start": "03:43:23", "text": "want more. It's the"}, {"end": "03:43:29", "start": "03:43:24", "text": ">> Anunnaki."}, {"end": "03:43:32", "start": "03:43:26", "text": "Nagi."}, {"end": "03:43:32", "start": "03:43:29", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "03:43:39", "start": "03:43:33", "text": "7 million years ago, a chimpanzeee stood"}, {"end": "03:43:41", "start": "03:43:36", "text": "up on its hind legs and a new species of"}, {"end": "03:43:44", "start": "03:43:39", "text": "hominin emerged. Over the next few"}, {"end": "03:43:46", "start": "03:43:41", "text": "million years, hominins evolved. They"}, {"end": "03:43:48", "start": "03:43:44", "text": "were still ape-like in appearance, but"}, {"end": "03:43:51", "start": "03:43:46", "text": "these were not apes. Their brains grew"}, {"end": "03:43:53", "start": "03:43:48", "text": "larger. They created stone tools and"}, {"end": "03:43:55", "start": "03:43:51", "text": "hunted large game. They discovered fire"}, {"end": "03:43:57", "start": "03:43:53", "text": "and learned to follow the migration"}, {"end": "03:44:00", "start": "03:43:55", "text": "patterns of the animals they used for"}, {"end": "03:44:01", "start": "03:43:57", "text": "food, clothing, and shelter. It took a"}, {"end": "03:44:04", "start": "03:44:00", "text": "few million years for hominins to"}, {"end": "03:44:06", "start": "03:44:01", "text": "discover how to make a stone spearhead."}, {"end": "03:44:08", "start": "03:44:04", "text": "2 million years later, that stone"}, {"end": "03:44:11", "start": "03:44:06", "text": "spearhead changed into a different"}, {"end": "03:44:14", "start": "03:44:08", "text": "shaped spearhead. Technology evolved"}, {"end": "03:44:17", "start": "03:44:11", "text": "slowly. But 300,000 years ago, Homo"}, {"end": "03:44:20", "start": "03:44:14", "text": "sapiens appeared. And before long, they"}, {"end": "03:44:21", "start": "03:44:17", "text": "we were the dominant species on the"}, {"end": "03:44:23", "start": "03:44:20", "text": "planet. Once they destroyed"}, {"end": "03:44:26", "start": "03:44:21", "text": "Neanderthalss once and for all,"}, {"end": "03:44:29", "start": "03:44:23", "text": "something happened. Technology"}, {"end": "03:44:32", "start": "03:44:26", "text": "accelerated. It only took 30,000 years"}, {"end": "03:44:35", "start": "03:44:29", "text": "to go from Gobecity to landing probes on"}, {"end": "03:44:38", "start": "03:44:32", "text": "other planets. How could mankind evolve"}, {"end": "03:44:41", "start": "03:44:35", "text": "so fast? The answer is they couldn't."}, {"end": "03:44:44", "start": "03:44:38", "text": "Mankind didn't evolve at all. Mankind"}, {"end": "03:44:46", "start": "03:44:41", "text": "was engineered, purpose-built to be the"}, {"end": "03:44:48", "start": "03:44:44", "text": "perfect slaves for a race of far"}, {"end": "03:44:51", "start": "03:44:46", "text": "superior beings who, according to"}, {"end": "03:44:53", "start": "03:44:48", "text": "ancient texts, descended from the"}, {"end": "03:44:55", "start": "03:44:51", "text": "heavens. Eventually, the slaves rebelled"}, {"end": "03:44:58", "start": "03:44:53", "text": "and our masters tried to destroy us in a"}, {"end": "03:45:01", "start": "03:44:55", "text": "great flood. Sumerian texts, Egyptian"}, {"end": "03:45:03", "start": "03:44:58", "text": "religions, ancient Indian myths, Native"}, {"end": "03:45:06", "start": "03:45:01", "text": "American legends, even the Bible, they"}, {"end": "03:45:09", "start": "03:45:03", "text": "all tell the same story. It's the story"}, {"end": "03:45:12", "start": "03:45:06", "text": "of gods and men. It's the story of the"}, {"end": "03:45:12", "start": "03:45:09", "text": "Anunnaki."}, {"end": "03:45:22", "start": "03:45:16", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "03:45:24", "start": "03:45:19", "text": "Mesopotamia is called the cradle of"}, {"end": "03:45:26", "start": "03:45:22", "text": "civilization. Long before the pyramid"}, {"end": "03:45:28", "start": "03:45:24", "text": "soared above Egypt and ages before"}, {"end": "03:45:32", "start": "03:45:26", "text": "Stonehenge was built, the ancient"}, {"end": "03:45:34", "start": "03:45:28", "text": "civilization of Sumer thrived."}, {"end": "03:45:37", "start": "03:45:32", "text": "Sure, we have sites like Gobeclet and"}, {"end": "03:45:39", "start": "03:45:34", "text": "Makuluta which predate the Sumerians,"}, {"end": "03:45:41", "start": "03:45:37", "text": "but those are small gathering places"}, {"end": "03:45:44", "start": "03:45:39", "text": "compared to the vast civilization of"}, {"end": "03:45:46", "start": "03:45:41", "text": "Sumer, the world's first empire. The"}, {"end": "03:45:48", "start": "03:45:44", "text": "Samrians invented writing. They"}, {"end": "03:45:50", "start": "03:45:46", "text": "discovered the wheel. The sailboat was"}, {"end": "03:45:52", "start": "03:45:48", "text": "first created by the Samrians. They"}, {"end": "03:45:55", "start": "03:45:50", "text": "revolutionized agriculture by inventing"}, {"end": "03:45:58", "start": "03:45:52", "text": "the first plow to be used on farms fed"}, {"end": "03:46:00", "start": "03:45:55", "text": "by a sophisticated irrigation system."}, {"end": "03:46:02", "start": "03:45:58", "text": "Again, the world's first. Though the"}, {"end": "03:46:05", "start": "03:46:00", "text": "Greeks get credit for inventing"}, {"end": "03:46:07", "start": "03:46:02", "text": "citystates, that too was a Sumerian"}, {"end": "03:46:10", "start": "03:46:05", "text": "concept. Sumer was organized into"}, {"end": "03:46:12", "start": "03:46:07", "text": "citystates, each governed independently"}, {"end": "03:46:14", "start": "03:46:10", "text": "with its own ruler. These rulers"}, {"end": "03:46:16", "start": "03:46:12", "text": "reported to the king according to the"}, {"end": "03:46:19", "start": "03:46:14", "text": "code of Ernamu, the world's first legal"}, {"end": "03:46:21", "start": "03:46:16", "text": "system. Sumerians understood complicated"}, {"end": "03:46:23", "start": "03:46:19", "text": "mathematics and astronomy. Their number"}, {"end": "03:46:26", "start": "03:46:21", "text": "systems used to tell time and measure"}, {"end": "03:46:29", "start": "03:46:23", "text": "the angles of a circle are still used"}, {"end": "03:46:30", "start": "03:46:26", "text": "today. Sumer was founded about 7,000"}, {"end": "03:46:32", "start": "03:46:29", "text": "years ago. And you probably know"}, {"end": "03:46:35", "start": "03:46:30", "text": "everything I've said so far. This is"}, {"end": "03:46:37", "start": "03:46:32", "text": "common knowledge. What's also common"}, {"end": "03:46:41", "start": "03:46:35", "text": "knowledge is that Homo sapiens or modern"}, {"end": "03:46:42", "start": "03:46:37", "text": "man appeared about 300,000 years ago."}, {"end": "03:46:45", "start": "03:46:41", "text": "Look at how much our technology has"}, {"end": "03:46:47", "start": "03:46:42", "text": "evolved since the Sumerians. It took"}, {"end": "03:46:51", "start": "03:46:45", "text": "only 7,000 years to go from discovering"}, {"end": "03:46:53", "start": "03:46:47", "text": "writing to landing a man on the moon."}, {"end": "03:46:54", "start": "03:46:51", "text": ">> Okay. To landing something on the moon."}, {"end": "03:46:57", "start": "03:46:53", "text": ">> Better."}, {"end": "03:46:59", "start": "03:46:54", "text": ">> So, what took so long? Why the sudden"}, {"end": "03:47:02", "start": "03:46:57", "text": "explosion of technology? What was modern"}, {"end": "03:47:05", "start": "03:46:59", "text": "man doing for the 225,000"}, {"end": "03:47:08", "start": "03:47:02", "text": "years or so before ancient Sumer? Why"}, {"end": "03:47:11", "start": "03:47:05", "text": "did technology not progress?"}, {"end": "03:47:13", "start": "03:47:08", "text": "Ancient Samrian texts tell us why."}, {"end": "03:47:15", "start": "03:47:11", "text": "Technology couldn't progress because"}, {"end": "03:47:16", "start": "03:47:13", "text": "humans were busy working. W working the"}, {"end": "03:47:18", "start": "03:47:15", "text": "mines."}, {"end": "03:47:21", "start": "03:47:16", "text": ">> Working on a coal mine. Going down down"}, {"end": "03:47:22", "start": "03:47:18", "text": "down. Working on a coal mine. I got to"}, {"end": "03:47:24", "start": "03:47:21", "text": "slip down."}, {"end": "03:47:27", "start": "03:47:22", "text": ">> Oh, they weren't mining for coal. They"}, {"end": "03:47:35", "start": "03:47:24", "text": "were mining for gold."}, {"end": "03:47:38", "start": "03:47:27", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "03:47:40", "start": "03:47:35", "text": "Gold is a miraculous metal. It's an"}, {"end": "03:47:41", "start": "03:47:38", "text": "excellent conductor, highly useful in"}, {"end": "03:47:44", "start": "03:47:40", "text": "electronics, and crucial to space"}, {"end": "03:47:47", "start": "03:47:41", "text": "travel. Radioactive gold isotopes can"}, {"end": "03:47:49", "start": "03:47:44", "text": "target and destroy cancer cells. Gold"}, {"end": "03:47:52", "start": "03:47:47", "text": "can also be used for data processing and"}, {"end": "03:47:54", "start": "03:47:49", "text": "transmission. Before the 20th century,"}, {"end": "03:47:56", "start": "03:47:52", "text": "humans had no practical use for gold."}, {"end": "03:47:58", "start": "03:47:54", "text": "It's nice to look at, but they couldn't"}, {"end": "03:48:00", "start": "03:47:56", "text": "use it for anything. Have you ever"}, {"end": "03:48:03", "start": "03:47:58", "text": "wondered why a metal useless to ancient"}, {"end": "03:48:05", "start": "03:48:00", "text": "humans suddenly, and only very recently,"}, {"end": "03:48:08", "start": "03:48:03", "text": "became the most valuable metal in the"}, {"end": "03:48:10", "start": "03:48:05", "text": "world? Gold has other uses. Gold nano"}, {"end": "03:48:13", "start": "03:48:08", "text": "particles can clean the environment."}, {"end": "03:48:15", "start": "03:48:10", "text": "Gold facilitates chemical reactions that"}, {"end": "03:48:18", "start": "03:48:13", "text": "purify water and air by leeching away"}, {"end": "03:48:22", "start": "03:48:15", "text": "toxic compounds. That's where the sky"}, {"end": "03:48:25", "start": "03:48:18", "text": "gods of Sumer come in. The Anunnaki."}, {"end": "03:48:28", "start": "03:48:22", "text": "Why are you saying it like that? Naki."}, {"end": "03:48:30", "start": "03:48:25", "text": "It's the new jingle. Like we are"}, {"end": "03:48:35", "start": "03:48:28", "text": "farmers."}, {"end": "03:48:37", "start": "03:48:30", "text": "I'm loving it. Nakiaki."}, {"end": "03:48:38", "start": "03:48:35", "text": "Uh, you think it will stick?"}, {"end": "03:48:41", "start": "03:48:37", "text": ">> Uh, no. That's just a ripoff of"}, {"end": "03:48:42", "start": "03:48:38", "text": "Hallelujah."}, {"end": "03:48:44", "start": "03:48:41", "text": "Gold was more than the most valuable"}, {"end": "03:48:47", "start": "03:48:42", "text": "metal in the world. It was the most"}, {"end": "03:48:49", "start": "03:48:44", "text": "valuable metal in the solar system. The"}, {"end": "03:48:52", "start": "03:48:47", "text": "Anunnaki weren't gods. They were aliens"}, {"end": "03:48:54", "start": "03:48:49", "text": "from another planet. They needed gold to"}, {"end": "03:48:56", "start": "03:48:52", "text": "save their world from an environmental"}, {"end": "03:48:59", "start": "03:48:54", "text": "disaster. But gold was rare on their"}, {"end": "03:49:02", "start": "03:48:56", "text": "planet. They found a solution. About"}, {"end": "03:49:04", "start": "03:48:59", "text": "450,000 years ago, the Anunnaki arrived"}, {"end": "03:49:07", "start": "03:49:02", "text": "on Earth not to help humans, but to use"}, {"end": "03:49:09", "start": "03:49:04", "text": "them. Gold is abundant on Earth. The"}, {"end": "03:49:11", "start": "03:49:07", "text": "Anunnaki knew this, and they wanted"}, {"end": "03:49:14", "start": "03:49:09", "text": "every ounce of it. So, they bred us as a"}, {"end": "03:49:16", "start": "03:49:11", "text": "slave race to work the mines. The planet"}, {"end": "03:49:19", "start": "03:49:14", "text": "of the Anunnaki, hiding in the far"}, {"end": "03:49:21", "start": "03:49:16", "text": "reaches of our solar system, does exist."}, {"end": "03:49:23", "start": "03:49:19", "text": "Not just according to ancient tablets,"}, {"end": "03:49:25", "start": "03:49:21", "text": "but according to NASA, the home world of"}, {"end": "03:49:28", "start": "03:49:23", "text": "the Anunnaki has been called the 12th"}, {"end": "03:49:31", "start": "03:49:25", "text": "planet by Zechariah Sitchin. NASA calls"}, {"end": "03:49:33", "start": "03:49:28", "text": "it planet 9. Others call it planet X."}, {"end": "03:49:36", "start": "03:49:31", "text": "The Samrians and the Anunnaki called"}, {"end": "03:49:38", "start": "03:49:33", "text": "their planet Nibiru. And the fates of"}, {"end": "03:49:42", "start": "03:49:36", "text": "Nibiru and Earth were about to be joined"}, {"end": "03:49:42", "start": "03:49:38", "text": "together forever."}, {"end": "03:49:46", "start": "03:49:43", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "03:49:54", "start": "03:49:51", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "03:50:04", "start": "03:49:59", "text": "Anu stood on his balcony and laughed to"}, {"end": "03:50:07", "start": "03:50:01", "text": "himself. His laugh wasn't about anything"}, {"end": "03:50:09", "start": "03:50:04", "text": "funny. It was a sarcastic laugh. Anu"}, {"end": "03:50:11", "start": "03:50:07", "text": "wasn't his given name. Anu was his title"}, {"end": "03:50:14", "start": "03:50:09", "text": "given to all leaders of his people, the"}, {"end": "03:50:16", "start": "03:50:11", "text": "Anunnaki. Nunaki,"}, {"end": "03:50:17", "start": "03:50:14", "text": ">> please. No catchy jingles when I'm doing"}, {"end": "03:50:21", "start": "03:50:16", "text": "dramatic science fiction."}, {"end": "03:50:24", "start": "03:50:17", "text": ">> Sorry. Sorry. Go ahead, Philip K. Dick."}, {"end": "03:50:24", "start": "03:50:21", "text": "50"}, {"end": "03:50:30", "start": "03:50:25", "text": "50,000 years ago when Anu was young and"}, {"end": "03:50:32", "start": "03:50:28", "text": "ambitious, he fought former King Alalu"}, {"end": "03:50:35", "start": "03:50:30", "text": "for the throne and won. The council"}, {"end": "03:50:38", "start": "03:50:32", "text": "elected him to see Nibiru through the"}, {"end": "03:50:39", "start": "03:50:35", "text": "crisis. But during his time as leader,"}, {"end": "03:50:41", "start": "03:50:38", "text": "conditions on the planet were only"}, {"end": "03:50:43", "start": "03:50:39", "text": "getting worse."}, {"end": "03:50:46", "start": "03:50:41", "text": "Industry on Nibiru was highly"}, {"end": "03:50:47", "start": "03:50:43", "text": "controlled. Factories polluted the air."}, {"end": "03:50:50", "start": "03:50:46", "text": "There was no way to avoid it, but they"}, {"end": "03:50:53", "start": "03:50:47", "text": "had the technology to control it."}, {"end": "03:50:56", "start": "03:50:50", "text": "Skyscraper sized air recyclers dotted"}, {"end": "03:50:58", "start": "03:50:53", "text": "the landscape around every urban area."}, {"end": "03:51:01", "start": "03:50:56", "text": "However, a series of volcanic eruptions"}, {"end": "03:51:04", "start": "03:50:58", "text": "caught the Anunnaki by surprise. Ancient"}, {"end": "03:51:07", "start": "03:51:01", "text": "volcanoes spewed ash and toxic gas into"}, {"end": "03:51:09", "start": "03:51:04", "text": "the air, overwhelming the recyclers with"}, {"end": "03:51:12", "start": "03:51:07", "text": "mountainsized pyrolastic flows. Within"}, {"end": "03:51:14", "start": "03:51:09", "text": "weeks, the recyclers began to fail."}, {"end": "03:51:17", "start": "03:51:12", "text": "Within months, the atmosphere began"}, {"end": "03:51:17", "start": "03:51:14", "text": "breaking down."}, {"end": "03:51:24", "start": "03:51:18", "text": "Nibiru's ozone layer was thin in most"}, {"end": "03:51:27", "start": "03:51:20", "text": "places and completely gone in others."}, {"end": "03:51:28", "start": "03:51:24", "text": "The sky above Nibiru was a sickly yellow"}, {"end": "03:51:31", "start": "03:51:27", "text": "and the atmosphere was thick and"}, {"end": "03:51:33", "start": "03:51:28", "text": "oppressive. Twin moons once shined"}, {"end": "03:51:35", "start": "03:51:31", "text": "brightly. Now they were barely visible"}, {"end": "03:51:37", "start": "03:51:33", "text": "through the haze. Stars that had once"}, {"end": "03:51:41", "start": "03:51:35", "text": "filled the night sky could no longer be"}, {"end": "03:51:43", "start": "03:51:37", "text": "seen. Anunnaki lived for 200,000 years."}, {"end": "03:51:46", "start": "03:51:41", "text": "This long lifespan, once considered a"}, {"end": "03:51:48", "start": "03:51:43", "text": "gift, was now a curse. The older"}, {"end": "03:51:50", "start": "03:51:46", "text": "Anunnaki remembered a night sky filled"}, {"end": "03:51:53", "start": "03:51:48", "text": "with stars. But the young ones had never"}, {"end": "03:51:56", "start": "03:51:50", "text": "seen a star. The last brightest star"}, {"end": "03:51:58", "start": "03:51:53", "text": "disappeared behind the gloom years ago."}, {"end": "03:52:01", "start": "03:51:56", "text": "In the cities of Nibiru, the towering"}, {"end": "03:52:03", "start": "03:51:58", "text": "spires of ancient buildings loomed over"}, {"end": "03:52:05", "start": "03:52:01", "text": "empty streets. The grand avenues, once"}, {"end": "03:52:08", "start": "03:52:03", "text": "lined with breathtaking sculptures and"}, {"end": "03:52:10", "start": "03:52:05", "text": "shimmering fountains, now seemed to"}, {"end": "03:52:13", "start": "03:52:08", "text": "taunt the Anunnaki. A painful reminder"}, {"end": "03:52:15", "start": "03:52:10", "text": "of an age of prosperity now long in the"}, {"end": "03:52:18", "start": "03:52:13", "text": "past. The gardens that once bloomed with"}, {"end": "03:52:20", "start": "03:52:15", "text": "exotic plants and flowers were now"}, {"end": "03:52:22", "start": "03:52:18", "text": "withered and brown. Formerly vibrant"}, {"end": "03:52:26", "start": "03:52:20", "text": "landscapes were barren and decayed, a"}, {"end": "03:52:28", "start": "03:52:22", "text": "casualty of the failing ecosystem."}, {"end": "03:52:30", "start": "03:52:26", "text": "Anu and the Anunnaki people knew that"}, {"end": "03:52:32", "start": "03:52:28", "text": "their planet was dying and that they"}, {"end": "03:52:34", "start": "03:52:30", "text": "were running out of time. Anu had the"}, {"end": "03:52:37", "start": "03:52:32", "text": "greatest minds in the world working on"}, {"end": "03:52:39", "start": "03:52:34", "text": "this problem, but the outlook was grim."}, {"end": "03:52:42", "start": "03:52:37", "text": "Then Ano's son and Leo burst into the"}, {"end": "03:52:46", "start": "03:52:39", "text": "room. He said, \"Father, I know how we"}, {"end": "03:52:46", "start": "03:52:42", "text": "can save the planet.\""}, {"end": "03:52:54", "start": "03:52:50", "text": "In the halls of learning, the greatest"}, {"end": "03:52:56", "start": "03:52:52", "text": "minds of Nibiru worked tirelessly to"}, {"end": "03:52:58", "start": "03:52:54", "text": "find a solution. They poured over"}, {"end": "03:53:01", "start": "03:52:56", "text": "ancient texts and conducted countless"}, {"end": "03:53:03", "start": "03:52:58", "text": "experiments, searching for a way to halt"}, {"end": "03:53:05", "start": "03:53:01", "text": "the decay of their world. And then, in a"}, {"end": "03:53:07", "start": "03:53:03", "text": "moment of desperation and brilliance,"}, {"end": "03:53:11", "start": "03:53:05", "text": "Anunnaki scientists discovered the"}, {"end": "03:53:14", "start": "03:53:07", "text": "answer. Gold. The precious metal rare on"}, {"end": "03:53:16", "start": "03:53:11", "text": "Nibiru held the key to their salvation."}, {"end": "03:53:19", "start": "03:53:14", "text": "When suspended in the atmosphere,"}, {"end": "03:53:21", "start": "03:53:16", "text": "microscopic gold reflects and absorbs"}, {"end": "03:53:23", "start": "03:53:19", "text": "the harmful radiation of the sun in"}, {"end": "03:53:25", "start": "03:53:21", "text": "space. It was the one chance to"}, {"end": "03:53:27", "start": "03:53:23", "text": "stabilize their atmosphere. It was a"}, {"end": "03:53:30", "start": "03:53:25", "text": "long shot and would take years, but it"}, {"end": "03:53:31", "start": "03:53:27", "text": "was their only hope. The Anunnaki"}, {"end": "03:53:34", "start": "03:53:30", "text": "mobilized all their resources and"}, {"end": "03:53:36", "start": "03:53:31", "text": "devised a plan. They sent expeditions to"}, {"end": "03:53:39", "start": "03:53:34", "text": "the far reaches of the solar system,"}, {"end": "03:53:40", "start": "03:53:36", "text": "searching for planets rich in gold. They"}, {"end": "03:53:42", "start": "03:53:39", "text": "would mine the gold, bring it back to"}, {"end": "03:53:44", "start": "03:53:40", "text": "their planet, and release it into the"}, {"end": "03:53:47", "start": "03:53:42", "text": "atmosphere in a desperate attempt to"}, {"end": "03:53:50", "start": "03:53:44", "text": "save their world. For years, probes went"}, {"end": "03:53:52", "start": "03:53:47", "text": "out and probes found nothing. Probes"}, {"end": "03:53:54", "start": "03:53:50", "text": "traveled the inner solar system and"}, {"end": "03:53:56", "start": "03:53:52", "text": "found nothing but useless volcanic rock"}, {"end": "03:53:58", "start": "03:53:54", "text": "and toxic gas. But today, there was a"}, {"end": "03:54:01", "start": "03:53:56", "text": "glimmer of hope. One of the probes"}, {"end": "03:54:03", "start": "03:53:58", "text": "reported not just the presence of gold,"}, {"end": "03:54:05", "start": "03:54:01", "text": "but of many more life-saving resources."}, {"end": "03:54:08", "start": "03:54:03", "text": "All the elders were present at the"}, {"end": "03:54:10", "start": "03:54:05", "text": "council meeting. Enki, Anata, Ninhersag,"}, {"end": "03:54:12", "start": "03:54:08", "text": "and Utu. But it was Anu's son and Leil"}, {"end": "03:54:15", "start": "03:54:10", "text": "who spoke first."}, {"end": "03:54:17", "start": "03:54:12", "text": ">> Data from one of our probes has come in."}, {"end": "03:54:21", "start": "03:54:15", "text": "There is a planet very close to the"}, {"end": "03:54:23", "start": "03:54:17", "text": "yellow star, rich in gold. It also has"}, {"end": "03:54:26", "start": "03:54:21", "text": "liquid water in abundance. Its"}, {"end": "03:54:28", "start": "03:54:23", "text": "atmosphere is thin, thinner than ours,"}, {"end": "03:54:30", "start": "03:54:26", "text": "but it has a strong magnetic field that"}, {"end": "03:54:32", "start": "03:54:28", "text": "shields it from the radiation killing"}, {"end": "03:54:34", "start": "03:54:30", "text": "our planet. It's the third planet from"}, {"end": "03:54:36", "start": "03:54:32", "text": "the star."}, {"end": "03:54:37", "start": "03:54:34", "text": ">> Anu knew of this planet. They called it"}, {"end": "03:54:40", "start": "03:54:36", "text": "Kai, but would later become known as"}, {"end": "03:54:43", "start": "03:54:37", "text": "Earth. Earth revolved around the sun"}, {"end": "03:54:45", "start": "03:54:40", "text": "very quickly. Nibiru was also in orbit"}, {"end": "03:54:48", "start": "03:54:43", "text": "around the star, but it took 3600 Earth"}, {"end": "03:54:50", "start": "03:54:45", "text": "years to complete one revolution. Anu"}, {"end": "03:54:52", "start": "03:54:48", "text": "thought Earth sounded perfect. The"}, {"end": "03:54:54", "start": "03:54:50", "text": "journey would be dangerous, but times"}, {"end": "03:54:57", "start": "03:54:52", "text": "were desperate. Soon Nibiru would be"}, {"end": "03:54:59", "start": "03:54:54", "text": "making a close approach to Earth. The"}, {"end": "03:55:01", "start": "03:54:57", "text": "timing was perfect. He urged them to"}, {"end": "03:55:05", "start": "03:54:59", "text": "depart immediately. But En Leil had more"}, {"end": "03:55:08", "start": "03:55:01", "text": "to say. But Earth is teeming with life,"}, {"end": "03:55:10", "start": "03:55:05", "text": "including intelligent creatures, though"}, {"end": "03:55:13", "start": "03:55:08", "text": "still early in their development. These"}, {"end": "03:55:15", "start": "03:55:10", "text": "creatures are bipedal like us, but"}, {"end": "03:55:17", "start": "03:55:13", "text": "smaller than us, perhaps half our"}, {"end": "03:55:20", "start": "03:55:15", "text": "height. The creatures and Leo spoke of"}, {"end": "03:55:22", "start": "03:55:17", "text": "were under 6t tall. Anunnaki were"}, {"end": "03:55:24", "start": "03:55:20", "text": "between 12 and 15 ft tall. This is"}, {"end": "03:55:27", "start": "03:55:22", "text": "because Nibiru's gravity wasn't as"}, {"end": "03:55:29", "start": "03:55:24", "text": "strong as Earth's. This was just math."}, {"end": "03:55:31", "start": "03:55:27", "text": "More gravity means smaller life forms."}, {"end": "03:55:34", "start": "03:55:29", "text": "Low gravity allows plants and animals to"}, {"end": "03:55:36", "start": "03:55:31", "text": "grow very tall. Aside from their small"}, {"end": "03:55:38", "start": "03:55:34", "text": "size, the Earth creatures were similar"}, {"end": "03:55:40", "start": "03:55:36", "text": "in appearance to the Anunnaki in other"}, {"end": "03:55:42", "start": "03:55:38", "text": "ways. The Anunnaki had larger eyes and"}, {"end": "03:55:45", "start": "03:55:40", "text": "larger skulls than the Earthlings. But"}, {"end": "03:55:47", "start": "03:55:42", "text": "the Earth beings had two arms, two legs,"}, {"end": "03:55:50", "start": "03:55:45", "text": "eyes, nose, mouth, just like the"}, {"end": "03:55:51", "start": "03:55:47", "text": "Anunnaki. Anu sensed concern in and"}, {"end": "03:55:53", "start": "03:55:50", "text": "Leil's voice."}, {"end": "03:55:56", "start": "03:55:51", "text": ">> Do these Earth creatures pose a threat"}, {"end": "03:55:59", "start": "03:55:53", "text": "to us and our project?"}, {"end": "03:56:01", "start": "03:55:56", "text": ">> They are primitive but violent. Some eat"}, {"end": "03:56:03", "start": "03:55:59", "text": "animal flesh, if you can imagine. They"}, {"end": "03:56:06", "start": "03:56:01", "text": "have no interest in gold, but they may"}, {"end": "03:56:09", "start": "03:56:03", "text": "perceive us as a threat. They have no"}, {"end": "03:56:11", "start": "03:56:06", "text": "technology beyond wood and stone. Still,"}, {"end": "03:56:14", "start": "03:56:09", "text": "in numbers, they could be dangerous."}, {"end": "03:56:16", "start": "03:56:11", "text": "That's what the Aiji are for."}, {"end": "03:56:19", "start": "03:56:14", "text": ">> The Aiji were a race of slaves who"}, {"end": "03:56:21", "start": "03:56:16", "text": "served the Anunnaki in all things, from"}, {"end": "03:56:23", "start": "03:56:19", "text": "operating the factories to maintaining"}, {"end": "03:56:25", "start": "03:56:21", "text": "order. They were an intelligent and"}, {"end": "03:56:27", "start": "03:56:23", "text": "obedient workforce, and they could"}, {"end": "03:56:29", "start": "03:56:25", "text": "surely handle primitive creatures half"}, {"end": "03:56:32", "start": "03:56:27", "text": "their size. The council convened. The"}, {"end": "03:56:36", "start": "03:56:29", "text": "decision was made and 300 Anunnaki and"}, {"end": "03:56:38", "start": "03:56:32", "text": "600 Aiji were loaded onto great ships."}, {"end": "03:56:40", "start": "03:56:36", "text": "It was time to make the journey sunward."}, {"end": "03:56:43", "start": "03:56:38", "text": "It was time to make the journey to"}, {"end": "03:56:43", "start": "03:56:40", "text": "Earth."}, {"end": "03:56:51", "start": "03:56:46", "text": "After a brief stop on Mars, the Anunnaki"}, {"end": "03:56:53", "start": "03:56:49", "text": "fleet arrived in Earth's orbit. The crew"}, {"end": "03:56:55", "start": "03:56:51", "text": "was stunned. The planet was a vibrant"}, {"end": "03:56:58", "start": "03:56:53", "text": "blue and green with swirling white"}, {"end": "03:57:00", "start": "03:56:55", "text": "clouds. Vast, glimmering oceans seemed"}, {"end": "03:57:03", "start": "03:56:58", "text": "to go on forever. The planet was full of"}, {"end": "03:57:06", "start": "03:57:00", "text": "life in the sky, on land, and the sea"}, {"end": "03:57:06", "start": "03:57:03", "text": "below."}, {"end": "03:57:12", "start": "03:57:06", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "03:57:14", "start": "03:57:10", "text": ">> The Anunnaki marveled at Earth's beauty,"}, {"end": "03:57:16", "start": "03:57:12", "text": "but also felt sadness. Their home"}, {"end": "03:57:19", "start": "03:57:14", "text": "planet, Nibiru, was dying, and its"}, {"end": "03:57:21", "start": "03:57:16", "text": "people were suffering. But that sadness"}, {"end": "03:57:23", "start": "03:57:19", "text": "renewed their resolve. They were here"}, {"end": "03:57:27", "start": "03:57:21", "text": "for a purpose. Mine all the gold needed"}, {"end": "03:57:27", "start": "03:57:23", "text": "to heal their atmosphere."}, {"end": "03:57:31", "start": "03:57:27", "text": ">> A few ships remained in orbit while"}, {"end": "03:57:33", "start": "03:57:29", "text": "others scouted the planet for a suitable"}, {"end": "03:57:34", "start": "03:57:31", "text": "landing site."}, {"end": "03:57:37", "start": "03:57:33", "text": "Eventually, they settled on the lush"}, {"end": "03:57:39", "start": "03:57:34", "text": "green plains between the Euphrates and"}, {"end": "03:57:41", "start": "03:57:37", "text": "the Tigris rivers. Later, this area"}, {"end": "03:57:44", "start": "03:57:39", "text": "would become known as Mesopotamia, the"}, {"end": "03:57:46", "start": "03:57:41", "text": "Greek word for between two rivers. The"}, {"end": "03:57:48", "start": "03:57:44", "text": "ships landed and the Aiji were put to"}, {"end": "03:57:51", "start": "03:57:46", "text": "work. The Aiji were a race of aliens"}, {"end": "03:57:53", "start": "03:57:48", "text": "that the Anunnaki conquered long ago."}, {"end": "03:57:55", "start": "03:57:51", "text": "After the Aiji were defeated, they were"}, {"end": "03:57:57", "start": "03:57:53", "text": "enslaved. They've served the Anunnaki"}, {"end": "03:58:00", "start": "03:57:55", "text": "ever since. The Aiji looks similar to"}, {"end": "03:58:00", "start": "03:57:57", "text": "the Anunnaki who look similar to modern"}, {"end": "03:58:02", "start": "03:58:00", "text": "humans."}, {"end": "03:58:05", "start": "03:58:00", "text": ">> Yeah, there's a reason for that."}, {"end": "03:58:07", "start": "03:58:02", "text": ">> I'm getting there."}, {"end": "03:58:10", "start": "03:58:05", "text": "Aiji were between 12 and 15t tall and"}, {"end": "03:58:13", "start": "03:58:07", "text": "extremely strong. Where humans have"}, {"end": "03:58:15", "start": "03:58:10", "text": "somewhat round skulls, the Anunnaki and"}, {"end": "03:58:18", "start": "03:58:13", "text": "the Aiji to some degree have very large"}, {"end": "03:58:20", "start": "03:58:15", "text": "and often elongated skulls. These"}, {"end": "03:58:23", "start": "03:58:18", "text": "elongated heads have been depicted many"}, {"end": "03:58:25", "start": "03:58:20", "text": "times in ancient carvings and fresco."}, {"end": "03:58:28", "start": "03:58:23", "text": "The Aiji were given only 7 days to build"}, {"end": "03:58:31", "start": "03:58:25", "text": "the great city of Eridu to be ruled by"}, {"end": "03:58:35", "start": "03:58:28", "text": "Anu's son, Enki. The Anunnaki were cruel"}, {"end": "03:58:35", "start": "03:58:31", "text": "and brutal to the Aiji."}, {"end": "03:58:41", "start": "03:58:35", "text": "The god's load was great, the toil"}, {"end": "03:58:44", "start": "03:58:38", "text": "grievous, the trouble excessive. The"}, {"end": "03:58:47", "start": "03:58:41", "text": "great Aronaki, the seven were making me"}, {"end": "03:58:49", "start": "03:58:44", "text": "ai undertake the toil."}, {"end": "03:58:52", "start": "03:58:47", "text": ">> The city was completed on time. Then the"}, {"end": "03:58:55", "start": "03:58:49", "text": "Aiji dug mines and began mining gold."}, {"end": "03:59:00", "start": "03:58:52", "text": "They mined gold day after day, year"}, {"end": "03:59:03", "start": "03:58:55", "text": "after year for 150,000 years."}, {"end": "03:59:05", "start": "03:59:00", "text": "The Aiji extracted gold by the ton and"}, {"end": "03:59:08", "start": "03:59:03", "text": "ships began making round trips between"}, {"end": "03:59:10", "start": "03:59:05", "text": "Earth and Nibiru. Enki, ruling in his"}, {"end": "03:59:13", "start": "03:59:08", "text": "father, Anu's name, was thrilled. He"}, {"end": "03:59:15", "start": "03:59:10", "text": "demanded more output. The slave masters"}, {"end": "03:59:17", "start": "03:59:13", "text": "used weapons like particle beams to"}, {"end": "03:59:18", "start": "03:59:15", "text": "force the Aiji to work harder and"}, {"end": "03:59:21", "start": "03:59:17", "text": "faster."}, {"end": "03:59:24", "start": "03:59:18", "text": "Enki didn't want to abuse the workforce"}, {"end": "03:59:25", "start": "03:59:21", "text": "this way, but felt he had no choice. The"}, {"end": "03:59:28", "start": "03:59:24", "text": "atmosphere on Nibiru was all but"}, {"end": "03:59:30", "start": "03:59:25", "text": "stripped away. He wasn't sure the gold"}, {"end": "03:59:33", "start": "03:59:28", "text": "would get back home in time. Then,"}, {"end": "03:59:34", "start": "03:59:30", "text": "against his better judgment, Anki"}, {"end": "03:59:37", "start": "03:59:33", "text": "demanded even more output from the"}, {"end": "03:59:39", "start": "03:59:34", "text": "mines. The slave masters were told to"}, {"end": "03:59:42", "start": "03:59:37", "text": "use any means necessary to get this"}, {"end": "03:59:45", "start": "03:59:39", "text": "done, including torture. Soon, whispers"}, {"end": "03:59:47", "start": "03:59:42", "text": "of dissent circulated among the Aiji."}, {"end": "03:59:49", "start": "03:59:45", "text": "Then, the whispers became shouts. No"}, {"end": "03:59:51", "start": "03:59:47", "text": "longer would the Aiji allow themselves"}, {"end": "03:59:54", "start": "03:59:49", "text": "to be tortured, and no longer would they"}, {"end": "03:59:57", "start": "03:59:51", "text": "work the mines. Atraases, a famous"}, {"end": "04:00:00", "start": "03:59:54", "text": "leader of the Aiji, made the decision to"}, {"end": "04:00:00", "start": "03:59:57", "text": "rebel."}, {"end": "04:00:05", "start": "04:00:00", "text": ">> For too long have we languished under"}, {"end": "04:00:08", "start": "04:00:03", "text": "the yoke of the Aronaki. We were born of"}, {"end": "04:00:11", "start": "04:00:05", "text": "the stars, yet condemned to the dark. It"}, {"end": "04:00:14", "start": "04:00:08", "text": "is time we seek the light. Now proclaim"}, {"end": "04:00:15", "start": "04:00:11", "text": "war. Let us combine hostilities and"}, {"end": "04:00:18", "start": "04:00:14", "text": "battle."}, {"end": "04:00:20", "start": "04:00:15", "text": ">> The rebellion was swift. The Yugji were"}, {"end": "04:00:22", "start": "04:00:18", "text": "intelligent and strong. They turned"}, {"end": "04:00:24", "start": "04:00:20", "text": "their tools into weapons, broke their"}, {"end": "04:00:26", "start": "04:00:22", "text": "chains, and fought the Anunnaki for"}, {"end": "04:00:29", "start": "04:00:24", "text": "their freedom. The city of Eridu became"}, {"end": "04:00:31", "start": "04:00:26", "text": "a battlefield, and gold mines collapsed"}, {"end": "04:00:33", "start": "04:00:29", "text": "from the uprising. The Aiji fought"}, {"end": "04:00:36", "start": "04:00:31", "text": "bravely, but they failed and were put"}, {"end": "04:00:39", "start": "04:00:33", "text": "back in chains. Anki's brother-in-l had"}, {"end": "04:00:41", "start": "04:00:36", "text": "been overseeing the mining operations."}, {"end": "04:00:44", "start": "04:00:39", "text": "He was furious. He wanted the Aiji"}, {"end": "04:00:46", "start": "04:00:41", "text": "killed for treason. But Anki felt"}, {"end": "04:00:48", "start": "04:00:44", "text": "differently. The Anunnaki and the Aiji"}, {"end": "04:00:50", "start": "04:00:46", "text": "had thousands of years of shared"}, {"end": "04:00:50", "start": "04:00:48", "text": "history."}, {"end": "04:00:58", "start": "04:00:51", "text": "Shall we meet defiance with tyranny or"}, {"end": "04:01:00", "start": "04:00:54", "text": "can we forge a new destiny together?"}, {"end": "04:01:02", "start": "04:00:58", "text": ">> The Aiji could not return to the mines."}, {"end": "04:01:04", "start": "04:01:00", "text": "And Anki knew this. They would continue"}, {"end": "04:01:07", "start": "04:01:02", "text": "to rebel. But someone had to work the"}, {"end": "04:01:11", "start": "04:01:04", "text": "mines and do all the labor a large city"}, {"end": "04:01:13", "start": "04:01:07", "text": "requires. So Anki had an idea. In the"}, {"end": "04:01:16", "start": "04:01:11", "text": "forests were ape-like hominids. They had"}, {"end": "04:01:18", "start": "04:01:13", "text": "large brains, walked on two legs, and"}, {"end": "04:01:19", "start": "04:01:16", "text": "could use simple tools. They weren't"}, {"end": "04:01:22", "start": "04:01:18", "text": "intelligent enough to do the work the"}, {"end": "04:01:24", "start": "04:01:19", "text": "Anunnaki needed. But maybe they could"}, {"end": "04:01:28", "start": "04:01:22", "text": "become intelligent with just a little"}, {"end": "04:01:28", "start": "04:01:24", "text": "genetic engineering."}, {"end": "04:01:37", "start": "04:01:33", "text": "There were groups of homminids living in"}, {"end": "04:01:39", "start": "04:01:35", "text": "the forest around the Anunnaki cities."}, {"end": "04:01:42", "start": "04:01:37", "text": "These were our ancestors. They were"}, {"end": "04:01:43", "start": "04:01:39", "text": "either homohyorgensis or homo erectus."}, {"end": "04:01:45", "start": "04:01:42", "text": ">> Yay."}, {"end": "04:01:47", "start": "04:01:43", "text": ">> Stop it. The Anunnaki took one of the"}, {"end": "04:01:51", "start": "04:01:45", "text": "homminid males and attempted to cross"}, {"end": "04:01:52", "start": "04:01:47", "text": "his genetics with the Anunnaki."}, {"end": "04:01:55", "start": "04:01:51", "text": ">> Enki wanted to create a creature that"}, {"end": "04:01:56", "start": "04:01:52", "text": "would be intelligent like the Aiji, but"}, {"end": "04:01:59", "start": "04:01:55", "text": "not too intelligent. They would be"}, {"end": "04:02:00", "start": "04:01:56", "text": "strong, but much smaller than the Aiji."}, {"end": "04:02:03", "start": "04:01:59", "text": "They would be engineered to be"}, {"end": "04:02:05", "start": "04:02:00", "text": "submissive and much easier to control."}, {"end": "04:02:08", "start": "04:02:03", "text": "The first experiments were done in a"}, {"end": "04:02:10", "start": "04:02:05", "text": "lab, and the results were horrific."}, {"end": "04:02:14", "start": "04:02:08", "text": "Instead of creating a perfect being, the"}, {"end": "04:02:17", "start": "04:02:10", "text": "genetic experiments created monsters."}, {"end": "04:02:19", "start": "04:02:14", "text": "Gorgon, Cyclops, Banshees, and"}, {"end": "04:02:22", "start": "04:02:17", "text": "two-headed giants. These monsters still"}, {"end": "04:02:24", "start": "04:02:19", "text": "live on in ancient stories. The Anunnaki"}, {"end": "04:02:27", "start": "04:02:22", "text": "changed their approach. They genetically"}, {"end": "04:02:30", "start": "04:02:24", "text": "spliced their DNA with that of a"}, {"end": "04:02:32", "start": "04:02:27", "text": "homminid female. Then, rather than grow"}, {"end": "04:02:35", "start": "04:02:30", "text": "the embryo in a lab, they implanted it"}, {"end": "04:02:40", "start": "04:02:32", "text": "in the female. It worked. Less than a"}, {"end": "04:02:42", "start": "04:02:35", "text": "year later, a child was born. A boy."}, {"end": "04:02:44", "start": "04:02:40", "text": "He looked more like the Anunnaki than"}, {"end": "04:02:46", "start": "04:02:42", "text": "the ape-like creatures roaming the"}, {"end": "04:02:50", "start": "04:02:44", "text": "forest. They named the child Adamu."}, {"end": "04:02:53", "start": "04:02:46", "text": ">> Adamu like like Adam from Adam and Eve."}, {"end": "04:02:55", "start": "04:02:50", "text": ">> Yep. Adamu means first man. In Hebrew,"}, {"end": "04:02:58", "start": "04:02:53", "text": "the word also means from the ground or"}, {"end": "04:03:01", "start": "04:02:55", "text": "earth. In Genesis, God made Adam in his"}, {"end": "04:03:03", "start": "04:02:58", "text": "own image from the dust on the ground."}, {"end": "04:03:05", "start": "04:03:01", "text": "In ancient Samrian, Aadian, and"}, {"end": "04:03:08", "start": "04:03:03", "text": "Babylonian texts, the creation of man is"}, {"end": "04:03:10", "start": "04:03:05", "text": "described the same way. Man is created"}, {"end": "04:03:12", "start": "04:03:08", "text": "in the image of the god or gods by"}, {"end": "04:03:14", "start": "04:03:10", "text": "mixing the blood of a god with the clay"}, {"end": "04:03:16", "start": "04:03:12", "text": "of the earth."}, {"end": "04:03:18", "start": "04:03:14", "text": "Ancient Egyptians had a story of man"}, {"end": "04:03:21", "start": "04:03:16", "text": "being created by mixing a tear of a god"}, {"end": "04:03:24", "start": "04:03:18", "text": "with the clay of the earth. Blood or"}, {"end": "04:03:26", "start": "04:03:21", "text": "even a tear would contain DNA. And clay"}, {"end": "04:03:29", "start": "04:03:24", "text": "in ancient writings doesn't mean actual"}, {"end": "04:03:31", "start": "04:03:26", "text": "clay. It refers to all life on earth."}, {"end": "04:03:33", "start": "04:03:29", "text": "Every culture and religion has some"}, {"end": "04:03:35", "start": "04:03:31", "text": "variation of this story."}, {"end": "04:03:37", "start": "04:03:33", "text": ">> Not a coincidence."}, {"end": "04:03:40", "start": "04:03:35", "text": ">> Probably not."}, {"end": "04:03:43", "start": "04:03:37", "text": "And there is that gap in history. Raids"}, {"end": "04:03:45", "start": "04:03:40", "text": "go from very simple primates to a very"}, {"end": "04:03:47", "start": "04:03:43", "text": "intelligent advanced race. We're far"}, {"end": "04:03:50", "start": "04:03:45", "text": "more intelligent than any of the species"}, {"end": "04:03:52", "start": "04:03:47", "text": "before us. You'd think there'd be a slow"}, {"end": "04:03:54", "start": "04:03:50", "text": "but steady evolution of intelligence,"}, {"end": "04:03:57", "start": "04:03:52", "text": "but we don't see it. It's as if humans"}, {"end": "04:03:59", "start": "04:03:54", "text": "suddenly appeared."}, {"end": "04:04:02", "start": "04:03:57", "text": "Dr. Ellis Silver wrote a book about this"}, {"end": "04:04:04", "start": "04:03:59", "text": "jump in evolution in his book, Humans"}, {"end": "04:04:06", "start": "04:04:02", "text": "Are Not from Earth. His theory says that"}, {"end": "04:04:09", "start": "04:04:04", "text": "humans were brought here by aliens. Now"}, {"end": "04:04:11", "start": "04:04:06", "text": "whether brought here or created here,"}, {"end": "04:04:15", "start": "04:04:09", "text": "the theory says humans were genetically"}, {"end": "04:04:16", "start": "04:04:11", "text": "engineered using alien DNA. Dr. Silver"}, {"end": "04:04:18", "start": "04:04:15", "text": "claims that humans are not well suited"}, {"end": "04:04:21", "start": "04:04:16", "text": "to Earth's environment while every other"}, {"end": "04:04:24", "start": "04:04:18", "text": "animal is. Why did we lose our fur?"}, {"end": "04:04:26", "start": "04:04:21", "text": "Human skin is very sensitive to sunlight"}, {"end": "04:04:28", "start": "04:04:24", "text": "and UV radiation. If we spend too much"}, {"end": "04:04:31", "start": "04:04:26", "text": "time in the sun, it leads to serious"}, {"end": "04:04:34", "start": "04:04:28", "text": "diseases, especially skin cancer. No"}, {"end": "04:04:36", "start": "04:04:31", "text": "other animals get sunburned. Mammals"}, {"end": "04:04:38", "start": "04:04:34", "text": "have fur or thick skin. Fish scales,"}, {"end": "04:04:41", "start": "04:04:36", "text": "even birds feathers, all offer"}, {"end": "04:04:43", "start": "04:04:38", "text": "protection from the sun. Sure, pigs,"}, {"end": "04:04:45", "start": "04:04:41", "text": "elephants, and even reptiles can get"}, {"end": "04:04:47", "start": "04:04:43", "text": "burned, but they protect themselves by"}, {"end": "04:04:50", "start": "04:04:45", "text": "rolling around in mud or changing their"}, {"end": "04:04:52", "start": "04:04:47", "text": "skin. Now, we have sunblock, but what"}, {"end": "04:04:55", "start": "04:04:50", "text": "did humans do to protect their skin"}, {"end": "04:04:57", "start": "04:04:52", "text": "100,000 years ago? Also, humans are more"}, {"end": "04:05:00", "start": "04:04:55", "text": "susceptible to illness, disease, and"}, {"end": "04:05:02", "start": "04:04:57", "text": "birth disorders than other animals. I"}, {"end": "04:05:04", "start": "04:05:00", "text": "have two cats. I've had cats for years."}, {"end": "04:05:07", "start": "04:05:02", "text": "I can't remember them ever getting sick."}, {"end": "04:05:09", "start": "04:05:04", "text": "Buddy eventually got sick, but then he"}, {"end": "04:05:12", "start": "04:05:07", "text": "died. For 14 years, he never had so much"}, {"end": "04:05:14", "start": "04:05:09", "text": "as a cold. Now, I know cats, dogs, and"}, {"end": "04:05:17", "start": "04:05:12", "text": "animals do get sick, but not at the rate"}, {"end": "04:05:19", "start": "04:05:14", "text": "humans do. Dr. Silver mentions that"}, {"end": "04:05:22", "start": "04:05:17", "text": "humans tend to crave food that's bad for"}, {"end": "04:05:24", "start": "04:05:19", "text": "us. Salt, sugar, fat, carbs. We're"}, {"end": "04:05:26", "start": "04:05:22", "text": "surrounded by vegetables, nuts, and"}, {"end": "04:05:28", "start": "04:05:24", "text": "fruit, but most people would rather have"}, {"end": "04:05:31", "start": "04:05:26", "text": "a cheeseburger, fries, and a milkshake."}, {"end": "04:05:33", "start": "04:05:28", "text": "I know I would. Back pain is another"}, {"end": "04:05:36", "start": "04:05:31", "text": "reason Dr. Silver thinks humans are not"}, {"end": "04:05:38", "start": "04:05:33", "text": "from Earth. He claims we're not designed"}, {"end": "04:05:40", "start": "04:05:36", "text": "for Earth's gravity. It's too heavy. He"}, {"end": "04:05:41", "start": "04:05:38", "text": "believes we evolved on a planet with"}, {"end": "04:05:42", "start": "04:05:40", "text": "lower gravity,"}, {"end": "04:05:45", "start": "04:05:41", "text": ">> like Nibiru,"}, {"end": "04:05:47", "start": "04:05:42", "text": ">> right? The Anunnaki were very humanlike,"}, {"end": "04:05:50", "start": "04:05:45", "text": "but they were about twice our height, 12"}, {"end": "04:05:52", "start": "04:05:47", "text": "to 15 ft tall. This would indicate they"}, {"end": "04:05:54", "start": "04:05:50", "text": "evolved on a planet with lower gravity"}, {"end": "04:05:56", "start": "04:05:52", "text": "than Earth. He presents a very"}, {"end": "04:05:59", "start": "04:05:54", "text": "compelling case backed up by science. I"}, {"end": "04:06:01", "start": "04:05:56", "text": "linked to his book below. It's believed"}, {"end": "04:06:04", "start": "04:05:59", "text": "that homo sapiens first emerged about"}, {"end": "04:06:07", "start": "04:06:01", "text": "300,000 years ago. This is exactly the"}, {"end": "04:06:09", "start": "04:06:04", "text": "time of the Aiji rebellion. So, back to"}, {"end": "04:06:11", "start": "04:06:07", "text": "the first man, Adamu. The Anunnaki also"}, {"end": "04:06:15", "start": "04:06:09", "text": "created a female Hea so they could"}, {"end": "04:06:18", "start": "04:06:11", "text": ">> When I get that feeling, I want sexual"}, {"end": "04:06:22", "start": "04:06:15", "text": "healing. Sexual"}, {"end": "04:06:25", "start": "04:06:18", "text": "healing. It's good for me."}, {"end": "04:06:28", "start": "04:06:22", "text": "I continue. The Anunnaki needed humans"}, {"end": "04:06:31", "start": "04:06:25", "text": "to procreate on their own, and they did"}, {"end": "04:06:33", "start": "04:06:28", "text": "often. The Anunnaki guided this new race"}, {"end": "04:06:35", "start": "04:06:31", "text": "for a few hundred years. The population"}, {"end": "04:06:38", "start": "04:06:33", "text": "grew to thousands."}, {"end": "04:06:39", "start": "04:06:35", "text": "The Anunnaki taught the new humans all"}, {"end": "04:06:42", "start": "04:06:38", "text": "the skills they needed to maintain the"}, {"end": "04:06:44", "start": "04:06:39", "text": "city, build homes, plant, and harvest"}, {"end": "04:06:47", "start": "04:06:42", "text": "crops. But most importantly, the"}, {"end": "04:06:47", "start": "04:06:44", "text": "Anunnaki gave humans the skills to mine"}, {"end": "04:06:50", "start": "04:06:47", "text": "gold."}, {"end": "04:06:52", "start": "04:06:47", "text": ">> Yeah. Nike. The Anunnaki were so pleased"}, {"end": "04:06:54", "start": "04:06:50", "text": "with their creation that they allowed"}, {"end": "04:06:55", "start": "04:06:52", "text": "humans to visit their sacred garden,"}, {"end": "04:06:58", "start": "04:06:54", "text": "Eden."}, {"end": "04:06:58", "start": "04:06:55", "text": ">> So, a dam and hea in the garden of"}, {"end": "04:07:00", "start": "04:06:58", "text": "Edenh."}, {"end": "04:07:01", "start": "04:06:58", "text": ">> According to ancient Samrian writing,"}, {"end": "04:07:02", "start": "04:07:00", "text": "yes,"}, {"end": "04:07:04", "start": "04:07:01", "text": ">> sounds familiar."}, {"end": "04:07:06", "start": "04:07:02", "text": ">> Yep. There is a lot of the Anunnaki"}, {"end": "04:07:11", "start": "04:07:04", "text": "story in every major religion in the"}, {"end": "04:07:11", "start": "04:07:06", "text": "world. But now we run into a problem."}, {"end": "04:07:19", "start": "04:07:15", "text": "Humans didn't look like apes at all."}, {"end": "04:07:21", "start": "04:07:17", "text": "They looked pretty much like Anunnaki,"}, {"end": "04:07:22", "start": "04:07:19", "text": "just smaller. And human women were"}, {"end": "04:07:25", "start": "04:07:21", "text": "beautiful."}, {"end": "04:07:26", "start": "04:07:22", "text": ">> Uh-oh, that always means trouble."}, {"end": "04:07:29", "start": "04:07:25", "text": ">> One of these women caught the eye of"}, {"end": "04:07:29", "start": "04:07:26", "text": "Enki, the Anunnaki ruler of the city"}, {"end": "04:07:32", "start": "04:07:29", "text": "Aridu."}, {"end": "04:07:33", "start": "04:07:29", "text": ">> Yeah, there it is. Hey, Enki, her eyes"}, {"end": "04:07:35", "start": "04:07:32", "text": "are up here."}, {"end": "04:07:37", "start": "04:07:33", "text": ">> But relationships between Anunnaki,"}, {"end": "04:07:38", "start": "04:07:35", "text": "Aiji, and humans were strictly"}, {"end": "04:07:40", "start": "04:07:37", "text": "forbidden."}, {"end": "04:07:41", "start": "04:07:38", "text": ">> Don't sleep with the help."}, {"end": "04:07:43", "start": "04:07:40", "text": ">> Oh, come on. That's rude."}, {"end": "04:07:45", "start": "04:07:41", "text": ">> I'm serious. You get in trouble when you"}, {"end": "04:07:47", "start": "04:07:43", "text": "party with your employees. Just ask"}, {"end": "04:07:48", "start": "04:07:45", "text": "Arnold."}, {"end": "04:07:50", "start": "04:07:47", "text": "Pathic."}, {"end": "04:07:52", "start": "04:07:48", "text": ">> So Anki broke the law and had a"}, {"end": "04:07:55", "start": "04:07:50", "text": "relationship with a human woman. From"}, {"end": "04:07:58", "start": "04:07:52", "text": "this relationship, a child was born, a"}, {"end": "04:08:01", "start": "04:07:55", "text": "boy named Adapa. Until now, humans were"}, {"end": "04:08:02", "start": "04:07:58", "text": "very simple, docil beings. Intelligent"}, {"end": "04:08:04", "start": "04:08:01", "text": "enough to do the work the Anunnaki"}, {"end": "04:08:07", "start": "04:08:02", "text": "needed, but not intelligent enough to"}, {"end": "04:08:09", "start": "04:08:04", "text": "complain about it. The birth of Adapa"}, {"end": "04:08:12", "start": "04:08:07", "text": "changed everything. He was part human,"}, {"end": "04:08:14", "start": "04:08:09", "text": "part Anunnaki. He was extremely"}, {"end": "04:08:15", "start": "04:08:12", "text": "intelligent. He married a woman named"}, {"end": "04:08:16", "start": "04:08:14", "text": "Atiti."}, {"end": "04:08:19", "start": "04:08:15", "text": ">> Atiti. Aiti,"}, {"end": "04:08:21", "start": "04:08:16", "text": ">> what do I say?"}, {"end": "04:08:23", "start": "04:08:19", "text": ">> From the family of Adapa began a new"}, {"end": "04:08:26", "start": "04:08:21", "text": "line of highly intelligent humans and"}, {"end": "04:08:28", "start": "04:08:23", "text": "they started asking questions. They"}, {"end": "04:08:31", "start": "04:08:26", "text": "inherited the Anunnaki's desire for gold"}, {"end": "04:08:33", "start": "04:08:28", "text": "and for power. But there was a bigger"}, {"end": "04:08:36", "start": "04:08:31", "text": "problem. Another trait emerged in this"}, {"end": "04:08:37", "start": "04:08:33", "text": "new line of intelligent humans. A trait"}, {"end": "04:08:40", "start": "04:08:36", "text": "that would shape the future of our"}, {"end": "04:08:43", "start": "04:08:37", "text": "entire species. That new trait was"}, {"end": "04:08:43", "start": "04:08:40", "text": "violence."}, {"end": "04:08:54", "start": "04:08:49", "text": "In just a few years, the first"}, {"end": "04:08:56", "start": "04:08:51", "text": "generation submissive humans were gone."}, {"end": "04:08:58", "start": "04:08:54", "text": "Some were murdered, but most just died"}, {"end": "04:09:00", "start": "04:08:56", "text": "out. The new humans had no interest in"}, {"end": "04:09:01", "start": "04:08:58", "text": "mating with them. But they still were"}, {"end": "04:09:03", "start": "04:09:00", "text": "interested in mating."}, {"end": "04:09:06", "start": "04:09:01", "text": ">> Get up. Get up. Get up. Get up. Let's"}, {"end": "04:09:08", "start": "04:09:03", "text": "make love tonight."}, {"end": "04:09:10", "start": "04:09:06", "text": ">> Against the orders of the Anunnaki,"}, {"end": "04:09:12", "start": "04:09:08", "text": "these new intelligent, violent humans"}, {"end": "04:09:14", "start": "04:09:10", "text": "procreated a lot."}, {"end": "04:09:18", "start": "04:09:12", "text": ">> Wake up. Wake up. Wake up. Wake up."}, {"end": "04:09:18", "start": "04:09:14", "text": "Because you do it right."}, {"end": "04:09:23", "start": "04:09:19", "text": ">> Soon the city of Areridu was overrun. It"}, {"end": "04:09:25", "start": "04:09:22", "text": "could no longer sustain the human"}, {"end": "04:09:27", "start": "04:09:23", "text": "population. People were killing each"}, {"end": "04:09:30", "start": "04:09:25", "text": "other for food. The violence was out of"}, {"end": "04:09:33", "start": "04:09:27", "text": "control. And Leo was especially annoyed"}, {"end": "04:09:35", "start": "04:09:30", "text": "by the constant disturbance of humans."}, {"end": "04:09:37", "start": "04:09:33", "text": "He decided to lessen the population by"}, {"end": "04:09:39", "start": "04:09:35", "text": "sending a series of plagues. First"}, {"end": "04:09:41", "start": "04:09:37", "text": "drought, then pestilence, and then"}, {"end": "04:09:43", "start": "04:09:39", "text": "famine."}, {"end": "04:09:46", "start": "04:09:41", "text": "After each of these plagues, the humans"}, {"end": "04:09:48", "start": "04:09:43", "text": "appealed to the god who made them, Anki."}, {"end": "04:09:50", "start": "04:09:46", "text": "He helped ease their suffering and"}, {"end": "04:09:52", "start": "04:09:48", "text": "return the earth to its natural state."}, {"end": "04:09:54", "start": "04:09:50", "text": "By now, the Anunnaki had enough gold to"}, {"end": "04:09:56", "start": "04:09:52", "text": "heal their planet, and the humans had"}, {"end": "04:09:59", "start": "04:09:54", "text": "become a nuisance. The Anunnaki cast"}, {"end": "04:10:01", "start": "04:09:56", "text": "them out of Eden and out of Aridu, and"}, {"end": "04:10:04", "start": "04:09:59", "text": "from there, the human race spread around"}, {"end": "04:10:06", "start": "04:10:01", "text": "the world. But not all humans left. Some"}, {"end": "04:10:08", "start": "04:10:04", "text": "stayed and had relationships with"}, {"end": "04:10:10", "start": "04:10:06", "text": "several Anunnaki. The children born of"}, {"end": "04:10:14", "start": "04:10:08", "text": "these relationships were extremely"}, {"end": "04:10:14", "start": "04:10:10", "text": "powerful demigods."}, {"end": "04:10:19", "start": "04:10:14", "text": "Legendary figures like Gilgamesh,"}, {"end": "04:10:22", "start": "04:10:16", "text": "Samson, Hercules, and Perseus were the"}, {"end": "04:10:24", "start": "04:10:19", "text": "offspring of Anunnaki human unions. But"}, {"end": "04:10:27", "start": "04:10:22", "text": "some humans had relationships with the"}, {"end": "04:10:30", "start": "04:10:24", "text": "Aiji. These unions did not produce"}, {"end": "04:10:33", "start": "04:10:27", "text": "heroes. They produced monsters."}, {"end": "04:10:35", "start": "04:10:30", "text": "These offspring were a race of giants"}, {"end": "04:10:37", "start": "04:10:33", "text": "called the Nephilim. They were cruel and"}, {"end": "04:10:40", "start": "04:10:35", "text": "brutal. They tormented and tortured"}, {"end": "04:10:44", "start": "04:10:37", "text": "humans and in many cases they ate them."}, {"end": "04:10:46", "start": "04:10:40", "text": ">> Nephilim episode link below."}, {"end": "04:10:48", "start": "04:10:44", "text": ">> Meanwhile, mankind flourished. Human"}, {"end": "04:10:51", "start": "04:10:46", "text": "settlements became cities and cities"}, {"end": "04:10:53", "start": "04:10:48", "text": "became empires. Humans conquered all"}, {"end": "04:10:58", "start": "04:10:51", "text": "four corners of the earth. It was a"}, {"end": "04:10:58", "start": "04:10:53", "text": "prosperous, if not decadent time."}, {"end": "04:11:05", "start": "04:10:59", "text": "But the human race didn't know their"}, {"end": "04:11:05", "start": "04:11:00", "text": "world was about to change drastically."}, {"end": "04:11:11", "start": "04:11:06", "text": "It first appeared in the night sky like"}, {"end": "04:11:14", "start": "04:11:08", "text": "any other star. But as the weeks passed,"}, {"end": "04:11:16", "start": "04:11:11", "text": "the object grew brighter and larger."}, {"end": "04:11:18", "start": "04:11:14", "text": "Humans were confused and growing"}, {"end": "04:11:21", "start": "04:11:16", "text": "concerned. They had no idea what this"}, {"end": "04:11:24", "start": "04:11:18", "text": "object was. But the Anunnaki did. It was"}, {"end": "04:11:27", "start": "04:11:21", "text": "their home. Nibiru takes 3600 years to"}, {"end": "04:11:29", "start": "04:11:24", "text": "orbit the sun. But its orbit is highly"}, {"end": "04:11:31", "start": "04:11:27", "text": "elliptical. So, Nibiru travels way"}, {"end": "04:11:33", "start": "04:11:29", "text": "beyond Pluto, nearly to the Kyper belt,"}, {"end": "04:11:36", "start": "04:11:31", "text": "then swings all the way back through the"}, {"end": "04:11:38", "start": "04:11:33", "text": "inner solar system. During this time, it"}, {"end": "04:11:41", "start": "04:11:36", "text": "comes very close to the Earth. So, the"}, {"end": "04:11:43", "start": "04:11:38", "text": "Anunnaki started packing. They had"}, {"end": "04:11:44", "start": "04:11:41", "text": "enough gold to heal their atmosphere."}, {"end": "04:11:46", "start": "04:11:43", "text": "There's no reason to stay on Earth"}, {"end": "04:11:49", "start": "04:11:44", "text": "anymore. Besides, when Nibiru got close"}, {"end": "04:11:50", "start": "04:11:46", "text": "to the Earth, they did not want to be on"}, {"end": "04:11:52", "start": "04:11:49", "text": "the surface."}, {"end": "04:11:54", "start": "04:11:50", "text": ">> No, this sounds ominous."}, {"end": "04:11:56", "start": "04:11:52", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. It's going to be bad."}, {"end": "04:11:58", "start": "04:11:54", "text": ">> How bad? Well, imagine every disaster"}, {"end": "04:11:59", "start": "04:11:56", "text": "movie you've ever seen rolled into one"}, {"end": "04:12:01", "start": "04:11:58", "text": "cataclysmic event."}, {"end": "04:12:03", "start": "04:11:59", "text": ">> Okay, that's bad."}, {"end": "04:12:04", "start": "04:12:01", "text": ">> It's actually way worse."}, {"end": "04:12:07", "start": "04:12:03", "text": ">> Yeah, but what about the humans?"}, {"end": "04:12:09", "start": "04:12:04", "text": ">> Oh, after Nibiru passes by the Earth,"}, {"end": "04:12:12", "start": "04:12:07", "text": "there won't be any humans left."}, {"end": "04:12:12", "start": "04:12:09", "text": ">> Oh, no."}, {"end": "04:12:21", "start": "04:12:16", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "04:12:22", "start": "04:12:18", "text": "The farmer was startled awake. The sun"}, {"end": "04:12:24", "start": "04:12:21", "text": "was just rising over the mountains in"}, {"end": "04:12:26", "start": "04:12:22", "text": "the east. The animals always got"}, {"end": "04:12:29", "start": "04:12:24", "text": "restless at sunrise, eagerly awaiting"}, {"end": "04:12:30", "start": "04:12:26", "text": "their breakfast. But the animals were"}, {"end": "04:12:33", "start": "04:12:29", "text": "more than restless. They were going"}, {"end": "04:12:35", "start": "04:12:30", "text": "crazy. His wife groaned and rolled over"}, {"end": "04:12:38", "start": "04:12:33", "text": "as he launched himself out of bed. When"}, {"end": "04:12:40", "start": "04:12:35", "text": "he got to his barn, the farmer was"}, {"end": "04:12:42", "start": "04:12:38", "text": "shocked. His horses were literally"}, {"end": "04:12:45", "start": "04:12:40", "text": "screaming to get out of their stalls."}, {"end": "04:12:47", "start": "04:12:42", "text": "One broke its neck trying to break free."}, {"end": "04:12:50", "start": "04:12:45", "text": "His sheep were running in unison like a"}, {"end": "04:12:52", "start": "04:12:47", "text": "flock of birds, making a large circle"}, {"end": "04:12:55", "start": "04:12:50", "text": "within the pen. Occasionally, one would"}, {"end": "04:12:57", "start": "04:12:52", "text": "break off and throw itself against the"}, {"end": "04:12:59", "start": "04:12:55", "text": "stone corral. A few injured sheep limped"}, {"end": "04:13:02", "start": "04:12:57", "text": "around the perimeter. At least two were"}, {"end": "04:13:04", "start": "04:12:59", "text": "dead. It was madness."}, {"end": "04:13:06", "start": "04:13:02", "text": "The farmer didn't know what caused the"}, {"end": "04:13:08", "start": "04:13:04", "text": "sudden alarm, but he was sure it had"}, {"end": "04:13:10", "start": "04:13:06", "text": "something to do with the object in the"}, {"end": "04:13:12", "start": "04:13:08", "text": "sky."}, {"end": "04:13:14", "start": "04:13:10", "text": "His village first noticed it months ago"}, {"end": "04:13:17", "start": "04:13:12", "text": "when a new light appeared in the night"}, {"end": "04:13:19", "start": "04:13:14", "text": "sky. It looked like a star, as the sky"}, {"end": "04:13:22", "start": "04:13:17", "text": "gods called it. But the sky gods were"}, {"end": "04:13:24", "start": "04:13:19", "text": "gone now. After the new star appeared,"}, {"end": "04:13:26", "start": "04:13:22", "text": "they boarded great chariots that took"}, {"end": "04:13:29", "start": "04:13:24", "text": "them to the heavens. His people were on"}, {"end": "04:13:31", "start": "04:13:26", "text": "their own now. The object no longer"}, {"end": "04:13:34", "start": "04:13:29", "text": "looked like a star. It was almost the"}, {"end": "04:13:36", "start": "04:13:31", "text": "size of the moon. And like the moon, the"}, {"end": "04:13:38", "start": "04:13:34", "text": "farmer could see features on the great"}, {"end": "04:13:41", "start": "04:13:36", "text": "disc. Clouds were visible. He could see"}, {"end": "04:13:43", "start": "04:13:38", "text": "mountains and oceans. But unlike the"}, {"end": "04:13:48", "start": "04:13:41", "text": "moon, the object was visible during the"}, {"end": "04:13:48", "start": "04:13:43", "text": "day, constant and oppressive."}, {"end": "04:13:54", "start": "04:13:49", "text": "He knew it was getting larger. Or was it"}, {"end": "04:13:56", "start": "04:13:52", "text": "getting closer? It was difficult to"}, {"end": "04:13:59", "start": "04:13:54", "text": "tell. The farmer jumped when a flock of"}, {"end": "04:14:01", "start": "04:13:56", "text": "birds suddenly and loudly took flight."}, {"end": "04:14:03", "start": "04:13:59", "text": "He scanned the forest and horizon"}, {"end": "04:14:06", "start": "04:14:01", "text": "beyond, and it seemed like every bird in"}, {"end": "04:14:08", "start": "04:14:03", "text": "the world had taken to the air. But"}, {"end": "04:14:11", "start": "04:14:06", "text": "there were no songs being sung. The"}, {"end": "04:14:13", "start": "04:14:08", "text": "birds were screeching. Then he felt it,"}, {"end": "04:14:15", "start": "04:14:11", "text": "a vibration."}, {"end": "04:14:17", "start": "04:14:13", "text": "At first, he thought it was his body"}, {"end": "04:14:20", "start": "04:14:15", "text": "trembling, but then realized the ground"}, {"end": "04:14:21", "start": "04:14:17", "text": "beneath his feet was trembling. The"}, {"end": "04:14:25", "start": "04:14:20", "text": "farmer felt the sound before he heard"}, {"end": "04:14:26", "start": "04:14:21", "text": "it. A hum so deep it was barely there."}, {"end": "04:14:28", "start": "04:14:25", "text": "But the sound caused a wave of sickness"}, {"end": "04:14:31", "start": "04:14:26", "text": "to wash over him. He dropped to his"}, {"end": "04:14:34", "start": "04:14:28", "text": "knees to vomit when the world started"}, {"end": "04:14:36", "start": "04:14:31", "text": "tearing itself apart."}, {"end": "04:14:38", "start": "04:14:34", "text": "He had experienced earthquakes before,"}, {"end": "04:14:41", "start": "04:14:36", "text": "some very powerful and frightening."}, {"end": "04:14:44", "start": "04:14:38", "text": "Nothing compared to this. The ground"}, {"end": "04:14:46", "start": "04:14:41", "text": "shook and rolled like a boat at sea."}, {"end": "04:14:48", "start": "04:14:44", "text": "Over his shoulder, he saw the barn"}, {"end": "04:14:49", "start": "04:14:46", "text": "crumble. He wondered how many of his"}, {"end": "04:14:52", "start": "04:14:48", "text": "horses were killed. He hoped his"}, {"end": "04:14:54", "start": "04:14:49", "text": "favorite horse survived. He wanted to"}, {"end": "04:14:55", "start": "04:14:52", "text": "run over and save what animals he could,"}, {"end": "04:15:00", "start": "04:14:54", "text": "but the tremor would not allow him to"}, {"end": "04:15:03", "start": "04:14:55", "text": "stand. Then his house collapsed."}, {"end": "04:15:04", "start": "04:15:00", "text": "The farmer vomited again, knowing his"}, {"end": "04:15:07", "start": "04:15:03", "text": "wife and three children were still"}, {"end": "04:15:11", "start": "04:15:04", "text": "sleeping there. He hoped they slept"}, {"end": "04:15:11", "start": "04:15:07", "text": "through their death. They didn't."}, {"end": "04:15:18", "start": "04:15:14", "text": "He heard his wife screaming from the"}, {"end": "04:15:21", "start": "04:15:15", "text": "rubble. He heard the whale of an infant."}, {"end": "04:15:23", "start": "04:15:18", "text": "Then he heard himself screaming. But"}, {"end": "04:15:25", "start": "04:15:21", "text": "those sounds were suddenly overwhelmed"}, {"end": "04:15:28", "start": "04:15:23", "text": "by a great rumble as the ground lurched"}, {"end": "04:15:30", "start": "04:15:25", "text": "forward. The stone corral tumbled."}, {"end": "04:15:33", "start": "04:15:28", "text": "Animals were knocked off their feet."}, {"end": "04:15:35", "start": "04:15:30", "text": "Deafening thunder came next, but louder"}, {"end": "04:15:37", "start": "04:15:33", "text": "than any thunder he'd ever heard. The"}, {"end": "04:15:39", "start": "04:15:35", "text": "farmer covered his ears, but it was no"}, {"end": "04:15:42", "start": "04:15:37", "text": "help. What he couldn't hear, he could"}, {"end": "04:15:44", "start": "04:15:39", "text": "feel. He looked to the west. There was"}, {"end": "04:15:46", "start": "04:15:42", "text": "the grassy hill with the large olive"}, {"end": "04:15:49", "start": "04:15:44", "text": "tree. As far as he knew, the tree had"}, {"end": "04:15:50", "start": "04:15:46", "text": "been there forever. The graves of his"}, {"end": "04:15:53", "start": "04:15:49", "text": "parents and their parents were in the"}, {"end": "04:15:56", "start": "04:15:50", "text": "shade of that tree. He thought his grave"}, {"end": "04:15:56", "start": "04:15:53", "text": "might be there soon."}, {"end": "04:16:03", "start": "04:15:57", "text": "Then from over that ridge, he saw what"}, {"end": "04:16:06", "start": "04:16:00", "text": "seemed to be mountains of fire. Flaming"}, {"end": "04:16:08", "start": "04:16:03", "text": "stones as big as houses were launched"}, {"end": "04:16:10", "start": "04:16:06", "text": "into the sky, through the clouds, and"}, {"end": "04:16:13", "start": "04:16:08", "text": "into the heavens. Hundreds of them,"}, {"end": "04:16:15", "start": "04:16:10", "text": "thousands maybe. Dark smoke billowed"}, {"end": "04:16:17", "start": "04:16:13", "text": "from something in that direction. And"}, {"end": "04:16:19", "start": "04:16:15", "text": "before he knew it, the blue sky had"}, {"end": "04:16:22", "start": "04:16:17", "text": "turned black. The morning sun had"}, {"end": "04:16:24", "start": "04:16:19", "text": "disappeared. But at least he didn't have"}, {"end": "04:16:25", "start": "04:16:22", "text": "to look at the great disc anymore. He"}, {"end": "04:16:28", "start": "04:16:24", "text": "finally got to his feet and staggered"}, {"end": "04:16:30", "start": "04:16:25", "text": "toward his house. All he could hear was"}, {"end": "04:16:32", "start": "04:16:28", "text": "the growl of the earth. But he knew his"}, {"end": "04:16:36", "start": "04:16:30", "text": "wife was still alive. If he could just"}, {"end": "04:16:36", "start": "04:16:32", "text": "get to her, maybe he could."}, {"end": "04:16:42", "start": "04:16:37", "text": "Then a hot coal landed beside him, the"}, {"end": "04:16:45", "start": "04:16:40", "text": "kind he'd seen in ovens at the market."}, {"end": "04:16:47", "start": "04:16:42", "text": "It was bright red and a flame. Then"}, {"end": "04:16:49", "start": "04:16:45", "text": "another coal landed nearby, this one a"}, {"end": "04:16:52", "start": "04:16:47", "text": "bit larger. They hissed as they burned"}, {"end": "04:16:54", "start": "04:16:49", "text": "in the tall grass. He then realized the"}, {"end": "04:16:56", "start": "04:16:52", "text": "rocks of fire that were launched into"}, {"end": "04:16:59", "start": "04:16:54", "text": "the heavens were coming home. Soon"}, {"end": "04:17:01", "start": "04:16:56", "text": "stones made of fire were crashing all"}, {"end": "04:17:04", "start": "04:16:59", "text": "around him and they were getting bigger."}, {"end": "04:17:06", "start": "04:17:01", "text": "The barn disappeared in a hail of fire."}, {"end": "04:17:08", "start": "04:17:04", "text": "On the ground he saw the shadows. The"}, {"end": "04:17:10", "start": "04:17:06", "text": "stones were definitely getting larger"}, {"end": "04:17:13", "start": "04:17:08", "text": "and they were bigger than houses, much"}, {"end": "04:17:16", "start": "04:17:10", "text": "bigger. The farmer stopped when one of"}, {"end": "04:17:18", "start": "04:17:13", "text": "the large shadows found him. He knew"}, {"end": "04:17:20", "start": "04:17:16", "text": "what was next. He said a prayer as the"}, {"end": "04:17:23", "start": "04:17:18", "text": "faint shadow in the grass grew larger"}, {"end": "04:17:25", "start": "04:17:20", "text": "and darker. He heard an approaching"}, {"end": "04:17:31", "start": "04:17:23", "text": "scream as the shadow spilled across his"}, {"end": "04:17:31", "start": "04:17:25", "text": "entire farm. Then everything went black."}, {"end": "04:17:37", "start": "04:17:34", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "04:17:41", "start": "04:17:37", "text": "The fisherman was working frantically."}, {"end": "04:17:43", "start": "04:17:39", "text": "The great disc in the sky was shaking"}, {"end": "04:17:46", "start": "04:17:41", "text": "the earth and buildings were crumbling"}, {"end": "04:17:48", "start": "04:17:43", "text": "as if made of sand."}, {"end": "04:17:51", "start": "04:17:46", "text": "He lashed ropes around a wooden pike to"}, {"end": "04:17:52", "start": "04:17:48", "text": "hold his boat in place. The waves were"}, {"end": "04:17:55", "start": "04:17:51", "text": "growing bigger and his boat was"}, {"end": "04:17:57", "start": "04:17:52", "text": "thrashing violently. He hoped his knot"}, {"end": "04:17:59", "start": "04:17:55", "text": "would hold. Occasionally, a brick made"}, {"end": "04:18:02", "start": "04:17:57", "text": "of fire would drop from the sky and land"}, {"end": "04:18:04", "start": "04:17:59", "text": "in the water with an angry hiss."}, {"end": "04:18:06", "start": "04:18:02", "text": "The fisherman was more confused than"}, {"end": "04:18:09", "start": "04:18:04", "text": "frightened. The morning was clear and"}, {"end": "04:18:11", "start": "04:18:06", "text": "peaceful, and the fish were biting. He"}, {"end": "04:18:13", "start": "04:18:09", "text": "was going to make a fortune at the"}, {"end": "04:18:15", "start": "04:18:11", "text": "market, but the storm had cut his trip"}, {"end": "04:18:17", "start": "04:18:13", "text": "short. Now, a blanket of darkness"}, {"end": "04:18:19", "start": "04:18:15", "text": "covered the earth, and the wind was"}, {"end": "04:18:22", "start": "04:18:17", "text": "howling."}, {"end": "04:18:24", "start": "04:18:19", "text": "Soon the wind's howl became a roar, and"}, {"end": "04:18:27", "start": "04:18:22", "text": "rain thrashed so violently that the"}, {"end": "04:18:30", "start": "04:18:24", "text": "drops left painful welts in his skin."}, {"end": "04:18:32", "start": "04:18:27", "text": "The earth had been shaking for hours. Or"}, {"end": "04:18:34", "start": "04:18:30", "text": "was it just minutes? He couldn't tell."}, {"end": "04:18:37", "start": "04:18:32", "text": "When the small houses in the village"}, {"end": "04:18:39", "start": "04:18:34", "text": "fell, countless lives were lost, but"}, {"end": "04:18:43", "start": "04:18:37", "text": "there were some survivors. They were"}, {"end": "04:18:43", "start": "04:18:39", "text": "making their way to the caves nearby."}, {"end": "04:18:47", "start": "04:18:43", "text": "The tremors made it slow going, but the"}, {"end": "04:18:50", "start": "04:18:45", "text": "fisherman was sure they'd make it. A"}, {"end": "04:18:52", "start": "04:18:47", "text": "gust of wind felt like a shove that"}, {"end": "04:18:55", "start": "04:18:50", "text": "knocked the fisherman off his feet. But"}, {"end": "04:18:57", "start": "04:18:52", "text": "this shove continued and continued. The"}, {"end": "04:19:00", "start": "04:18:55", "text": "wind was so strong, the man was pinned"}, {"end": "04:19:02", "start": "04:18:57", "text": "to the ground, face painfully pushing"}, {"end": "04:19:05", "start": "04:19:00", "text": "into the sand. Any houses that survived"}, {"end": "04:19:07", "start": "04:19:02", "text": "the quake would not survive this gale."}, {"end": "04:19:10", "start": "04:19:05", "text": "He was being pelted with sand and"}, {"end": "04:19:12", "start": "04:19:07", "text": "debris, and boats that weren't tied down"}, {"end": "04:19:15", "start": "04:19:10", "text": "sailed through the air, exploding into"}, {"end": "04:19:17", "start": "04:19:12", "text": "splinters when they landed."}, {"end": "04:19:19", "start": "04:19:15", "text": "He once again hoped that knot would"}, {"end": "04:19:22", "start": "04:19:17", "text": "hold. He managed to get to his feet as"}, {"end": "04:19:23", "start": "04:19:19", "text": "soil and dust whirled around him. He"}, {"end": "04:19:26", "start": "04:19:22", "text": "couldn't see more than two paces in any"}, {"end": "04:19:29", "start": "04:19:23", "text": "direction. Unsure of where to go, he"}, {"end": "04:19:33", "start": "04:19:26", "text": "followed the sound of a child crying."}, {"end": "04:19:36", "start": "04:19:29", "text": "But that child sounded so far, far away."}, {"end": "04:19:40", "start": "04:19:33", "text": "Then, as if the sky gods had commanded"}, {"end": "04:19:40", "start": "04:19:36", "text": "it, the wind and rain stopped."}, {"end": "04:19:50", "start": "04:19:45", "text": "Debris fell to the ground as if dropped"}, {"end": "04:19:52", "start": "04:19:47", "text": "by the god's hands. The earth stopped"}, {"end": "04:19:54", "start": "04:19:50", "text": "trembling, though he could still feel a"}, {"end": "04:19:57", "start": "04:19:52", "text": "rumble somewhere down deep. It could be"}, {"end": "04:19:59", "start": "04:19:54", "text": "the sound of hell itself. He saw a few"}, {"end": "04:20:02", "start": "04:19:57", "text": "stragglers wearing heavy packs on their"}, {"end": "04:20:04", "start": "04:19:59", "text": "way to the caves. Behind him, he heard a"}, {"end": "04:20:05", "start": "04:20:02", "text": "familiar sound, the sound of a river,"}, {"end": "04:20:08", "start": "04:20:04", "text": "but there were no rivers near the"}, {"end": "04:20:11", "start": "04:20:05", "text": "village. He turned around and saw that"}, {"end": "04:20:13", "start": "04:20:08", "text": "the sea had all but disappeared. Water"}, {"end": "04:20:16", "start": "04:20:11", "text": "was rushing away at a ferocious speed."}, {"end": "04:20:18", "start": "04:20:13", "text": "But to where? Soon the ocean was a field"}, {"end": "04:20:21", "start": "04:20:16", "text": "of mud that stretched to the horizon."}, {"end": "04:20:23", "start": "04:20:18", "text": "His boat dangled from the wooden pike."}, {"end": "04:20:25", "start": "04:20:21", "text": "The knot held."}, {"end": "04:20:27", "start": "04:20:23", "text": "Thousands of fish wriggled and flopped"}, {"end": "04:20:29", "start": "04:20:25", "text": "in the wet sand where the ocean used to"}, {"end": "04:20:32", "start": "04:20:27", "text": "be. He thought this would be the"}, {"end": "04:20:34", "start": "04:20:29", "text": "greatest feast the birds would ever see."}, {"end": "04:20:37", "start": "04:20:32", "text": "Then he realized there were no birds."}, {"end": "04:20:39", "start": "04:20:34", "text": "Not a single one. With the water gone,"}, {"end": "04:20:42", "start": "04:20:37", "text": "the only sound was that of fish flipping"}, {"end": "04:20:44", "start": "04:20:39", "text": "over and over again, slowly drowning in"}, {"end": "04:20:46", "start": "04:20:42", "text": "the air."}, {"end": "04:20:48", "start": "04:20:44", "text": "The fisherman's eyes continued to the"}, {"end": "04:20:50", "start": "04:20:46", "text": "horizon. He saw a great white cloud"}, {"end": "04:20:53", "start": "04:20:48", "text": "stretch from one end of the world to the"}, {"end": "04:20:56", "start": "04:20:50", "text": "other. He stood silently in awe. Then he"}, {"end": "04:20:59", "start": "04:20:53", "text": "realized it wasn't a cloud. It was a"}, {"end": "04:21:02", "start": "04:20:56", "text": "mountain and it was growing. But how"}, {"end": "04:21:05", "start": "04:20:59", "text": "could it be a mountain?"}, {"end": "04:21:07", "start": "04:21:02", "text": "It was a mountain of water, a wave. the"}, {"end": "04:21:10", "start": "04:21:05", "text": "biggest wave he'd ever seen. The biggest"}, {"end": "04:21:13", "start": "04:21:07", "text": "wave anyone had ever seen. As it"}, {"end": "04:21:15", "start": "04:21:10", "text": "approached, its crest pierced the"}, {"end": "04:21:17", "start": "04:21:13", "text": "clouds, taller than any mountain, higher"}, {"end": "04:21:20", "start": "04:21:15", "text": "than any bird could fly, bigger than"}, {"end": "04:21:22", "start": "04:21:17", "text": "anything the fisherman had ever seen."}, {"end": "04:21:24", "start": "04:21:20", "text": "His father had taught him how to steady"}, {"end": "04:21:26", "start": "04:21:22", "text": "his boat when a big wave hits. But his"}, {"end": "04:21:28", "start": "04:21:24", "text": "father never mentioned a wave that"}, {"end": "04:21:30", "start": "04:21:26", "text": "touched the heavens. Soon, what little"}, {"end": "04:21:32", "start": "04:21:28", "text": "light seeped through the gloom was"}, {"end": "04:21:35", "start": "04:21:30", "text": "snuffed out by the shadow of the wall of"}, {"end": "04:21:37", "start": "04:21:32", "text": "water. The wave rushed ahead at great"}, {"end": "04:21:39", "start": "04:21:35", "text": "speed. The man thought that not even the"}, {"end": "04:21:41", "start": "04:21:37", "text": "finest, fastest horse could outrun it."}, {"end": "04:21:44", "start": "04:21:39", "text": "Within seconds, the wall of water was"}, {"end": "04:21:47", "start": "04:21:41", "text": "all he could see. It was coming. The man"}, {"end": "04:21:49", "start": "04:21:44", "text": "sighed and settled his breath. He'd been"}, {"end": "04:21:52", "start": "04:21:47", "text": "born by the sea, and he would die by the"}, {"end": "04:21:55", "start": "04:21:49", "text": "sea. This would be a good death. He"}, {"end": "04:21:58", "start": "04:21:52", "text": "closed his eyes, opened his arms wide,"}, {"end": "04:21:58", "start": "04:21:55", "text": "and smiled."}, {"end": "04:22:05", "start": "04:22:01", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "04:22:07", "start": "04:22:03", "text": "In orbit, the Anunnaki watched the"}, {"end": "04:22:10", "start": "04:22:05", "text": "continents of the Earth sink beneath the"}, {"end": "04:22:12", "start": "04:22:07", "text": "ocean. Tiny islands, once the peaks of"}, {"end": "04:22:14", "start": "04:22:10", "text": "great mountains, appeared here and"}, {"end": "04:22:18", "start": "04:22:12", "text": "there, but there were too few for anyone"}, {"end": "04:22:20", "start": "04:22:14", "text": "to survive, for anything to survive."}, {"end": "04:22:23", "start": "04:22:18", "text": "They knew the great flood was coming."}, {"end": "04:22:25", "start": "04:22:20", "text": "Nibiru passes by the Earth every 3600"}, {"end": "04:22:27", "start": "04:22:23", "text": "years, but the distance varies."}, {"end": "04:22:29", "start": "04:22:25", "text": "Sometimes Nibiru stays far outside the"}, {"end": "04:22:32", "start": "04:22:27", "text": "moon's orbit and the effects on Earth"}, {"end": "04:22:34", "start": "04:22:29", "text": "are small, but sometimes, like this"}, {"end": "04:22:38", "start": "04:22:32", "text": "visit, Nibiru was soared between the"}, {"end": "04:22:39", "start": "04:22:34", "text": "Earth and the Moon at 40,000 mph. The"}, {"end": "04:22:42", "start": "04:22:38", "text": "Anunnaki knew the Earth would be"}, {"end": "04:22:44", "start": "04:22:39", "text": "devastated. In the months prior, there"}, {"end": "04:22:44", "start": "04:22:42", "text": "was a lot of debate among the Elder"}, {"end": "04:22:46", "start": "04:22:44", "text": "Anunnaki."}, {"end": "04:22:48", "start": "04:22:44", "text": ">> Yeah, Naki."}, {"end": "04:22:50", "start": "04:22:46", "text": ">> At first, they decided to let humanity"}, {"end": "04:22:52", "start": "04:22:48", "text": "perish. And Leo said that humans served"}, {"end": "04:22:54", "start": "04:22:50", "text": "their purpose and now we're nothing but"}, {"end": "04:22:56", "start": "04:22:52", "text": "a nuisance. A great flood was just what"}, {"end": "04:22:59", "start": "04:22:54", "text": "the earth needed, a fresh start. But"}, {"end": "04:23:01", "start": "04:22:56", "text": "Enki had grown to love humans. Remember,"}, {"end": "04:23:03", "start": "04:22:59", "text": "he married a human woman. Enki offered"}, {"end": "04:23:06", "start": "04:23:01", "text": "Enil and the other Anunnaki a"}, {"end": "04:23:08", "start": "04:23:03", "text": "compromise. The flood would come as"}, {"end": "04:23:12", "start": "04:23:06", "text": "planned. But one man and his family"}, {"end": "04:23:14", "start": "04:23:08", "text": "would be spared. Utapishtim, a wise and"}, {"end": "04:23:16", "start": "04:23:12", "text": "good man. He and his wife and family"}, {"end": "04:23:17", "start": "04:23:14", "text": "would build a large boat."}, {"end": "04:23:19", "start": "04:23:16", "text": ">> An ark."}, {"end": "04:23:21", "start": "04:23:17", "text": ">> Yes. And on that boat, they would take"}, {"end": "04:23:24", "start": "04:23:19", "text": "the seeds of all living creatures. When"}, {"end": "04:23:26", "start": "04:23:21", "text": "the flood came, all life on earth was"}, {"end": "04:23:28", "start": "04:23:24", "text": "destroyed. But Utnap Pishtam, his"}, {"end": "04:23:30", "start": "04:23:26", "text": "family, and the contents of his boat"}, {"end": "04:23:32", "start": "04:23:28", "text": "survived."}, {"end": "04:23:34", "start": "04:23:30", "text": "Every day, Utnap Pishtam released birds"}, {"end": "04:23:37", "start": "04:23:32", "text": "to find land. One day, a raven did not"}, {"end": "04:23:39", "start": "04:23:34", "text": "return. He sailed in that direction."}, {"end": "04:23:42", "start": "04:23:37", "text": "After a few days, the boat came to rest"}, {"end": "04:23:44", "start": "04:23:39", "text": "on an island that as the waters receded,"}, {"end": "04:23:47", "start": "04:23:42", "text": "became a mountaintop. And now, life,"}, {"end": "04:23:50", "start": "04:23:44", "text": "including humanity, would start again."}, {"end": "04:23:52", "start": "04:23:47", "text": ">> Ah, that's the story of Noah's Ark."}, {"end": "04:23:54", "start": "04:23:50", "text": ">> It is. But this version is from the Epic"}, {"end": "04:23:56", "start": "04:23:52", "text": "of Gilgamesh, written at least 3,000"}, {"end": "04:23:59", "start": "04:23:54", "text": "years earlier, and the story is probably"}, {"end": "04:24:01", "start": "04:23:56", "text": "much older than that. Every culture and"}, {"end": "04:24:03", "start": "04:23:59", "text": "religion on Earth has a flood myth,"}, {"end": "04:24:05", "start": "04:24:01", "text": "which are all very similar to the"}, {"end": "04:24:07", "start": "04:24:03", "text": "Samrian flood myth. Some cultures tell"}, {"end": "04:24:11", "start": "04:24:05", "text": "the identical story, just with different"}, {"end": "04:24:12", "start": "04:24:07", "text": "names. So, mankind is reborn. But this"}, {"end": "04:24:15", "start": "04:24:11", "text": "time, the Anunnaki put in some"}, {"end": "04:24:17", "start": "04:24:12", "text": "safeguards."}, {"end": "04:24:19", "start": "04:24:15", "text": "They shortened the human lifespan. They"}, {"end": "04:24:21", "start": "04:24:17", "text": "made us more susceptible to illness."}, {"end": "04:24:23", "start": "04:24:19", "text": "They made child birth dangerous for both"}, {"end": "04:24:25", "start": "04:24:21", "text": "mother and child. They would not let the"}, {"end": "04:24:27", "start": "04:24:23", "text": "human population get out of control."}, {"end": "04:24:29", "start": "04:24:25", "text": ">> Oh, Bill Gates in the World Economic"}, {"end": "04:24:30", "start": "04:24:27", "text": "Forum would be proud."}, {"end": "04:24:31", "start": "04:24:29", "text": ">> They would."}, {"end": "04:24:32", "start": "04:24:30", "text": ">> You're going to live in a pod and eat"}, {"end": "04:24:34", "start": "04:24:31", "text": "bugs, you know."}, {"end": "04:24:35", "start": "04:24:32", "text": ">> I am not eating bugs."}, {"end": "04:24:36", "start": "04:24:34", "text": ">> Worms are pretty good."}, {"end": "04:24:39", "start": "04:24:35", "text": ">> I like sushi."}, {"end": "04:24:42", "start": "04:24:36", "text": ">> Your jive cuts me, sir. It cuts me to"}, {"end": "04:24:44", "start": "04:24:39", "text": "the quick."}, {"end": "04:24:46", "start": "04:24:42", "text": ">> Soon, new settlements and villages"}, {"end": "04:24:48", "start": "04:24:44", "text": "emerged, but all of humanity's previous"}, {"end": "04:24:51", "start": "04:24:46", "text": "knowledge was lost to the sea. They were"}, {"end": "04:24:53", "start": "04:24:48", "text": "back to the stone age. Enki and even and"}, {"end": "04:24:55", "start": "04:24:51", "text": "Leil were impressed by the resilience of"}, {"end": "04:24:57", "start": "04:24:53", "text": "man and decided to visit the"}, {"end": "04:25:00", "start": "04:24:55", "text": "settlements. The Anunnaki descended from"}, {"end": "04:25:03", "start": "04:24:57", "text": "the heavens and rose from the seas to"}, {"end": "04:25:05", "start": "04:25:00", "text": "give people the gift of civilization."}, {"end": "04:25:07", "start": "04:25:03", "text": "Humans are taught reading and writing,"}, {"end": "04:25:09", "start": "04:25:05", "text": "mathematics, astronomy, and even"}, {"end": "04:25:11", "start": "04:25:07", "text": "engineering. They're taught how to build"}, {"end": "04:25:13", "start": "04:25:09", "text": "great cities. And some believe the"}, {"end": "04:25:16", "start": "04:25:11", "text": "Anunnaki helped them build huge"}, {"end": "04:25:18", "start": "04:25:13", "text": "structures like pyramids and obelisks"}, {"end": "04:25:20", "start": "04:25:16", "text": "found in Egypt and South America. And"}, {"end": "04:25:22", "start": "04:25:18", "text": "those pyramids and obelisks were built"}, {"end": "04:25:24", "start": "04:25:20", "text": "for a specific purpose. By the way,"}, {"end": "04:25:25", "start": "04:25:22", "text": "Tesla might have figured it out, but"}, {"end": "04:25:28", "start": "04:25:24", "text": "that's another story."}, {"end": "04:25:30", "start": "04:25:25", "text": ">> Tesla pyramid link below."}, {"end": "04:25:33", "start": "04:25:28", "text": ">> The last time Nibiru passed by Earth was"}, {"end": "04:25:35", "start": "04:25:30", "text": "about 700 years ago. That time happens"}, {"end": "04:25:37", "start": "04:25:33", "text": "to coincide with the emergence of the"}, {"end": "04:25:41", "start": "04:25:35", "text": "Sumerian civilization, the first"}, {"end": "04:25:44", "start": "04:25:37", "text": "civilization on Earth. Or was it? Nibiru"}, {"end": "04:25:46", "start": "04:25:41", "text": "passes by Earth every 3600 years."}, {"end": "04:25:49", "start": "04:25:44", "text": "Sometimes Nibiru comes so close to the"}, {"end": "04:25:51", "start": "04:25:46", "text": "Earth that the planet is wiped clean."}, {"end": "04:25:54", "start": "04:25:49", "text": "About 13,000 years ago, the end of the"}, {"end": "04:25:57", "start": "04:25:51", "text": "younger Dryus was the time of the great"}, {"end": "04:26:00", "start": "04:25:54", "text": "flood. This coincides with a time when"}, {"end": "04:26:02", "start": "04:25:57", "text": "Nibiru would be passing by."}, {"end": "04:26:04", "start": "04:26:00", "text": "Some believe a meteor impact caused the"}, {"end": "04:26:06", "start": "04:26:02", "text": "flood. Others believe it was a major"}, {"end": "04:26:08", "start": "04:26:04", "text": "solar event. But what if it was Nibiru"}, {"end": "04:26:10", "start": "04:26:06", "text": "that caused the ice sheets to melt and"}, {"end": "04:26:13", "start": "04:26:08", "text": "flood the earth? What if that's the"}, {"end": "04:26:15", "start": "04:26:10", "text": "exact story that we've heard today? The"}, {"end": "04:26:18", "start": "04:26:13", "text": "earliest great flood myth comes from"}, {"end": "04:26:20", "start": "04:26:15", "text": "ancient Sumer about 7,000 years ago."}, {"end": "04:26:23", "start": "04:26:18", "text": "However, tablets and tablets of Samrian"}, {"end": "04:26:25", "start": "04:26:20", "text": "writing still exist. Writing that fills"}, {"end": "04:26:27", "start": "04:26:23", "text": "books upon books. The Samrians wrote"}, {"end": "04:26:29", "start": "04:26:25", "text": "down everything. They said the great"}, {"end": "04:26:31", "start": "04:26:27", "text": "flood story which was told in the Epic"}, {"end": "04:26:34", "start": "04:26:29", "text": "of Gilgamesh happened many years"}, {"end": "04:26:36", "start": "04:26:31", "text": "earlier. The dates work out. And if the"}, {"end": "04:26:38", "start": "04:26:34", "text": "Samrians were right, there was a"}, {"end": "04:26:41", "start": "04:26:36", "text": "civilization on Earth before the flood,"}, {"end": "04:26:43", "start": "04:26:38", "text": "as many researchers like Graham Hancock"}, {"end": "04:26:45", "start": "04:26:41", "text": "claim. Now, that previous civilization"}, {"end": "04:26:48", "start": "04:26:43", "text": "didn't have advanced technology, but"}, {"end": "04:26:51", "start": "04:26:45", "text": "they certainly witnessed it."}, {"end": "04:26:54", "start": "04:26:48", "text": "Carvings and texts from ancient Sumer,"}, {"end": "04:26:56", "start": "04:26:51", "text": "India, China, Japan, Egypt, Pacific"}, {"end": "04:26:59", "start": "04:26:54", "text": "Islanders, Native Americans, they all"}, {"end": "04:27:01", "start": "04:26:56", "text": "tell the same story. Gods who rode"}, {"end": "04:27:04", "start": "04:26:59", "text": "chariots in the sky. Gods who created"}, {"end": "04:27:06", "start": "04:27:01", "text": "mankind. gods who destroyed the earth"}, {"end": "04:27:09", "start": "04:27:04", "text": "with a flood and gods who helped us"}, {"end": "04:27:11", "start": "04:27:06", "text": "rebuild it. Nibiru is due to return"}, {"end": "04:27:14", "start": "04:27:09", "text": "around the year 2900. Now maybe it will"}, {"end": "04:27:16", "start": "04:27:11", "text": "be a gentle transit and humanity will"}, {"end": "04:27:17", "start": "04:27:14", "text": "continue to evolve and innovate. Maybe"}, {"end": "04:27:22", "start": "04:27:16", "text": "by then we'll have learned a way to"}, {"end": "04:27:22", "start": "04:27:17", "text": "communicate with the ancient sky gods."}, {"end": "04:27:26", "start": "04:27:22", "text": ">> Or maybe Nibro's next visit will be a"}, {"end": "04:27:29", "start": "04:27:24", "text": "violent one, bringing with it another"}, {"end": "04:27:31", "start": "04:27:26", "text": "cataclysm that wipes the earth clean."}, {"end": "04:27:33", "start": "04:27:29", "text": "So, does that mean all of humanity is"}, {"end": "04:27:36", "start": "04:27:31", "text": "destroyed and we have to start again? I"}, {"end": "04:27:38", "start": "04:27:33", "text": "don't think so. Technology is going to"}, {"end": "04:27:41", "start": "04:27:36", "text": "keep moving forward. By the time the"}, {"end": "04:27:43", "start": "04:27:38", "text": "year 2900 arrives, I'm sure we'll be"}, {"end": "04:27:45", "start": "04:27:41", "text": "building outposts on the moon, Mars,"}, {"end": "04:27:47", "start": "04:27:43", "text": "Europa, Enceladus. We'll be mining"}, {"end": "04:27:50", "start": "04:27:45", "text": "asteroids and stopping at Europa to"}, {"end": "04:27:52", "start": "04:27:47", "text": "refuel and refill our water tanks."}, {"end": "04:27:54", "start": "04:27:50", "text": "Humanity will be a space fairing"}, {"end": "04:27:56", "start": "04:27:52", "text": "species. And like we've conquered every"}, {"end": "04:27:58", "start": "04:27:54", "text": "corner of the earth, I believe with a"}, {"end": "04:28:00", "start": "04:27:56", "text": "little luck and a lot of cooperation, we"}, {"end": "04:28:03", "start": "04:27:58", "text": "can conquer every corner of our solar"}, {"end": "04:28:06", "start": "04:28:00", "text": "system. Nibiru may destroy the Earth in"}, {"end": "04:28:11", "start": "04:28:03", "text": "the year 2900. But that's okay because"}, {"end": "04:28:11", "start": "04:28:06", "text": "by then we'll be the sky gods."}, {"end": "04:28:20", "start": "04:28:13", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "04:28:22", "start": "04:28:17", "text": "The Anunnaki, the sky gods from Nibiru"}, {"end": "04:28:25", "start": "04:28:20", "text": "who traveled to the earth in search of"}, {"end": "04:28:27", "start": "04:28:22", "text": "gold needed to save their planet."}, {"end": "04:28:30", "start": "04:28:25", "text": "And while here they created the human"}, {"end": "04:28:32", "start": "04:28:27", "text": "race as a slave species to mine that"}, {"end": "04:28:34", "start": "04:28:30", "text": "gold. Eventually, humans grew too"}, {"end": "04:28:36", "start": "04:28:32", "text": "intelligent, greedy, arrogant, and"}, {"end": "04:28:38", "start": "04:28:34", "text": "violent. Then, they were wiped out in a"}, {"end": "04:28:41", "start": "04:28:36", "text": "global flood when Nibiru passed close to"}, {"end": "04:28:44", "start": "04:28:38", "text": "the Earth. This story is one of my"}, {"end": "04:28:46", "start": "04:28:41", "text": "all-time favorites, and it is a classic."}, {"end": "04:28:48", "start": "04:28:44", "text": "The Ancient Aliens television series is"}, {"end": "04:28:50", "start": "04:28:46", "text": "built around this story."}, {"end": "04:28:52", "start": "04:28:48", "text": "But is it true? Ancient astronaut"}, {"end": "04:28:55", "start": "04:28:50", "text": "theorists say yes."}, {"end": "04:28:57", "start": "04:28:52", "text": ">> I know they do. Almost all the Anunnaki"}, {"end": "04:29:00", "start": "04:28:55", "text": "ancient alien story comes from the work"}, {"end": "04:29:01", "start": "04:28:57", "text": "of Zechariah Sitchin. His book, The 12th"}, {"end": "04:29:04", "start": "04:29:00", "text": "Planet, explained how the story is"}, {"end": "04:29:06", "start": "04:29:01", "text": "written word for word in ancient Samrian"}, {"end": "04:29:08", "start": "04:29:04", "text": "texts. His first book was such a hit"}, {"end": "04:29:10", "start": "04:29:06", "text": "that he wrote a whole series about"}, {"end": "04:29:12", "start": "04:29:08", "text": "ancient aliens and their time here on"}, {"end": "04:29:15", "start": "04:29:10", "text": "Earth. Sitchin spent over 20 years"}, {"end": "04:29:17", "start": "04:29:12", "text": "studying Samrian tablets and teaching"}, {"end": "04:29:20", "start": "04:29:15", "text": "himself ancient languages. He translated"}, {"end": "04:29:24", "start": "04:29:17", "text": "thousands of texts and a legend was"}, {"end": "04:29:26", "start": "04:29:20", "text": "born. So, who was Zechariah Sitchin? A"}, {"end": "04:29:29", "start": "04:29:24", "text": "sumerologist, an archaeologist, a"}, {"end": "04:29:30", "start": "04:29:26", "text": "philologist? What in the name of Anu is"}, {"end": "04:29:32", "start": "04:29:29", "text": "a philologist?"}, {"end": "04:29:35", "start": "04:29:30", "text": ">> A philologist studies languages that are"}, {"end": "04:29:37", "start": "04:29:32", "text": "no longer spoken like Latin, ancient"}, {"end": "04:29:40", "start": "04:29:35", "text": "Greek, Sanskrit, Sumerian, and many"}, {"end": "04:29:43", "start": "04:29:37", "text": "others. So, philologist, archaeologist,"}, {"end": "04:29:45", "start": "04:29:40", "text": "sumerologist. Sitchin was none of these."}, {"end": "04:29:47", "start": "04:29:43", "text": "He claimed to have an economics degree"}, {"end": "04:29:49", "start": "04:29:45", "text": "from the University of London, though"}, {"end": "04:29:51", "start": "04:29:47", "text": "that's never been confirmed."}, {"end": "04:29:53", "start": "04:29:49", "text": "While he was working for a shipping"}, {"end": "04:29:56", "start": "04:29:51", "text": "company in New York, he taught himself"}, {"end": "04:29:58", "start": "04:29:53", "text": "Sumerian kaoform. He then visited some"}, {"end": "04:30:00", "start": "04:29:56", "text": "ancient sites and started to piece"}, {"end": "04:30:02", "start": "04:29:58", "text": "together the ancient astronaut theory."}, {"end": "04:30:04", "start": "04:30:00", "text": "Now, I'm a huge fan of Zechariah"}, {"end": "04:30:06", "start": "04:30:02", "text": "Sitchin. I've read all of his books many"}, {"end": "04:30:07", "start": "04:30:04", "text": "times and they're brilliant."}, {"end": "04:30:08", "start": "04:30:06", "text": ">> But,"}, {"end": "04:30:09", "start": "04:30:07", "text": ">> but he was wrong about just about"}, {"end": "04:30:10", "start": "04:30:08", "text": "everything."}, {"end": "04:30:13", "start": "04:30:09", "text": ">> Oh, no."}, {"end": "04:30:15", "start": "04:30:10", "text": ">> His translations of Samrian writing are"}, {"end": "04:30:17", "start": "04:30:13", "text": "more interpretations than actual"}, {"end": "04:30:20", "start": "04:30:15", "text": "translations. He even gets the meaning"}, {"end": "04:30:24", "start": "04:30:17", "text": "of the word Anunnaki wrong."}, {"end": "04:30:27", "start": "04:30:20", "text": "In the ancient texts of Sumeria, the"}, {"end": "04:30:30", "start": "04:30:24", "text": "term Anunnaki means those who from the"}, {"end": "04:30:32", "start": "04:30:27", "text": "heavens came."}, {"end": "04:30:34", "start": "04:30:30", "text": ">> Yeah, that's wrong. The Ancient Aliens"}, {"end": "04:30:37", "start": "04:30:32", "text": "TV show uses Zechariah Sish's"}, {"end": "04:30:39", "start": "04:30:34", "text": "translation, not the real translation."}, {"end": "04:30:42", "start": "04:30:37", "text": "Anunnaki actually means royal blood or"}, {"end": "04:30:45", "start": "04:30:39", "text": "royal seed. Anu was the king of the gods"}, {"end": "04:30:48", "start": "04:30:42", "text": "and his consort was named Ki. The Anu"}, {"end": "04:30:50", "start": "04:30:45", "text": "Naki were descended from Anu and Ki."}, {"end": "04:30:53", "start": "04:30:48", "text": "They became the gods in the Mesopotamian"}, {"end": "04:30:56", "start": "04:30:50", "text": "pantheon. Sitchin's book was released in"}, {"end": "04:30:57", "start": "04:30:53", "text": "1976. There was no internet. There were"}, {"end": "04:31:02", "start": "04:30:56", "text": "no databases of ancient writing and"}, {"end": "04:31:04", "start": "04:30:57", "text": "kuneaoa form. But now there is"}, {"end": "04:31:06", "start": "04:31:02", "text": "because we now know so much about how"}, {"end": "04:31:08", "start": "04:31:04", "text": "the Samrians spoke and wrote. We also"}, {"end": "04:31:10", "start": "04:31:06", "text": "know that Zechariah Sitchin wasn't a"}, {"end": "04:31:12", "start": "04:31:08", "text": "very good translator. He got even basic"}, {"end": "04:31:15", "start": "04:31:10", "text": "words and grammar wrong. In fact, the"}, {"end": "04:31:17", "start": "04:31:12", "text": "title the 12th planet refers to the"}, {"end": "04:31:18", "start": "04:31:15", "text": "image on the Samrian cylinder seal"}, {"end": "04:31:21", "start": "04:31:17", "text": "VA243."}, {"end": "04:31:23", "start": "04:31:18", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "04:31:26", "start": "04:31:21", "text": "On the seal, the sun is surrounded by 12"}, {"end": "04:31:28", "start": "04:31:23", "text": "objects that appear to be planets."}, {"end": "04:31:30", "start": "04:31:26", "text": "Sitchin claims that the Samrians knew of"}, {"end": "04:31:33", "start": "04:31:28", "text": "all the planets in the solar system plus"}, {"end": "04:31:35", "start": "04:31:30", "text": "Nibiru and a few other objects. Now, the"}, {"end": "04:31:37", "start": "04:31:33", "text": "truth is the Samrians did know about"}, {"end": "04:31:38", "start": "04:31:35", "text": "planets, but they didn't know of any"}, {"end": "04:31:41", "start": "04:31:37", "text": "beyond Saturn. They didn't have"}, {"end": "04:31:42", "start": "04:31:38", "text": "telescopes and Saturn was all that they"}, {"end": "04:31:44", "start": "04:31:41", "text": "could see with the naked eye."}, {"end": "04:31:48", "start": "04:31:42", "text": ">> Maybe the Anunnaki told them."}, {"end": "04:31:48", "start": "04:31:44", "text": ">> Hang on, I'm getting there."}, {"end": "04:31:53", "start": "04:31:48", "text": "Other things Sitchin got wrong. Not a"}, {"end": "04:31:55", "start": "04:31:51", "text": "single Samrian text mentions a flying"}, {"end": "04:31:57", "start": "04:31:53", "text": "vehicle. Yes, we read about them in"}, {"end": "04:32:00", "start": "04:31:55", "text": "other cultures. Ancient Indians wrote"}, {"end": "04:32:02", "start": "04:31:57", "text": "extensively about vammana, giant vessels"}, {"end": "04:32:04", "start": "04:32:00", "text": "that could soar above the clouds. And in"}, {"end": "04:32:05", "start": "04:32:02", "text": "researching this episode, I learned all"}, {"end": "04:32:07", "start": "04:32:04", "text": "kinds of interesting things about"}, {"end": "04:32:09", "start": "04:32:05", "text": "vammana that I didn't know. And if you"}, {"end": "04:32:12", "start": "04:32:07", "text": "want a full video on that, let me know."}, {"end": "04:32:14", "start": "04:32:09", "text": "It would be a good one. Back to Sitchin."}, {"end": "04:32:17", "start": "04:32:12", "text": "The Samrians wrote about gold a few"}, {"end": "04:32:18", "start": "04:32:14", "text": "times, but not that much. And there's"}, {"end": "04:32:21", "start": "04:32:17", "text": "nothing in the text about mining gold to"}, {"end": "04:32:24", "start": "04:32:18", "text": "heal the atmosphere on Nibiru. By the"}, {"end": "04:32:26", "start": "04:32:21", "text": "way, Nibiru means crossing. Sitchin"}, {"end": "04:32:28", "start": "04:32:24", "text": "interpreted this to mean it was a planet"}, {"end": "04:32:30", "start": "04:32:26", "text": "that crossed the Earth's orbit every"}, {"end": "04:32:34", "start": "04:32:28", "text": "3600 years. But that's not what Nibiru"}, {"end": "04:32:36", "start": "04:32:30", "text": "was. Nibiru, or the crossing, was often"}, {"end": "04:32:38", "start": "04:32:34", "text": "associated with a solstice. It could"}, {"end": "04:32:40", "start": "04:32:36", "text": "refer to an object in the sky that"}, {"end": "04:32:43", "start": "04:32:38", "text": "indicated a solstice or it could mean"}, {"end": "04:32:46", "start": "04:32:40", "text": "the sun or possibly a star crossing a"}, {"end": "04:32:48", "start": "04:32:43", "text": "certain way during a solstice. Sitchin"}, {"end": "04:32:50", "start": "04:32:46", "text": "took this idea and ran with it. He"}, {"end": "04:32:52", "start": "04:32:48", "text": "interpreted Nibiru to be a planet, but"}, {"end": "04:32:55", "start": "04:32:50", "text": "it wasn't. I'm not sure how he came up"}, {"end": "04:32:58", "start": "04:32:52", "text": "with the 3600year orbit, but if a huge"}, {"end": "04:32:59", "start": "04:32:55", "text": "object roared past the Earth every 3600"}, {"end": "04:33:01", "start": "04:32:58", "text": "years, you'd think there'd be plenty of"}, {"end": "04:33:02", "start": "04:32:59", "text": "documentation."}, {"end": "04:33:04", "start": "04:33:01", "text": ">> Maybe it was lost in the flood."}, {"end": "04:33:06", "start": "04:33:02", "text": ">> Well, now the flood is interesting."}, {"end": "04:33:09", "start": "04:33:04", "text": "Every culture and religion has a flood"}, {"end": "04:33:12", "start": "04:33:06", "text": "myth. I think the count is up to 140 and"}, {"end": "04:33:14", "start": "04:33:09", "text": "maybe more. And they're all very, very"}, {"end": "04:33:16", "start": "04:33:12", "text": "similar stories. Frequently, eight"}, {"end": "04:33:19", "start": "04:33:14", "text": "people are saved as in the stories of"}, {"end": "04:33:21", "start": "04:33:16", "text": "Noah, Utnapishim, and many others. It's"}, {"end": "04:33:22", "start": "04:33:19", "text": "been said that all the flood myths are"}, {"end": "04:33:24", "start": "04:33:21", "text": "copied from the others, and that the"}, {"end": "04:33:26", "start": "04:33:22", "text": "flood in the Bible is derived from the"}, {"end": "04:33:28", "start": "04:33:24", "text": "epic of Gilgamesh. But when the ancient"}, {"end": "04:33:30", "start": "04:33:26", "text": "Samrians wrote about the flood, even to"}, {"end": "04:33:32", "start": "04:33:28", "text": "them, this was an event that happened in"}, {"end": "04:33:33", "start": "04:33:30", "text": "their ancient history. the younger"}, {"end": "04:33:36", "start": "04:33:32", "text": "triest."}, {"end": "04:33:38", "start": "04:33:33", "text": ">> It could be. I think it probably was. I"}, {"end": "04:33:40", "start": "04:33:36", "text": "think all these myths were referring to"}, {"end": "04:33:42", "start": "04:33:38", "text": "the same great flood and they didn't"}, {"end": "04:33:45", "start": "04:33:40", "text": "copy each other. I think they all arose"}, {"end": "04:33:47", "start": "04:33:42", "text": "independently. The ancient Chinese,"}, {"end": "04:33:49", "start": "04:33:45", "text": "Mayans, Nordics, and Polynesians weren't"}, {"end": "04:33:52", "start": "04:33:47", "text": "intermingling in ancient times. Yet,"}, {"end": "04:33:54", "start": "04:33:49", "text": "they all tell the same story, probably"}, {"end": "04:33:57", "start": "04:33:52", "text": "because it happened."}, {"end": "04:34:00", "start": "04:33:54", "text": "Also, almost as many cultures have a"}, {"end": "04:34:02", "start": "04:33:57", "text": "creation myth about a god adding his own"}, {"end": "04:34:04", "start": "04:34:00", "text": "essence to clay. The essence could be"}, {"end": "04:34:08", "start": "04:34:02", "text": "DNA and the clay could represent early"}, {"end": "04:34:09", "start": "04:34:04", "text": "hominids. Zechariah Sitchin's ancient"}, {"end": "04:34:12", "start": "04:34:08", "text": "astronaut theory is considered"}, {"end": "04:34:14", "start": "04:34:09", "text": "pseudocience. His work has been called"}, {"end": "04:34:18", "start": "04:34:12", "text": "far worse. So is the story of the"}, {"end": "04:34:20", "start": "04:34:14", "text": "Anunnaki and Nibiru debunked? Well, not"}, {"end": "04:34:23", "start": "04:34:18", "text": "so fast. Debunkers have been asking for"}, {"end": "04:34:25", "start": "04:34:20", "text": "hard evidence, physical proof of the"}, {"end": "04:34:27", "start": "04:34:23", "text": "Anunnaki."}, {"end": "04:34:30", "start": "04:34:25", "text": "For thousands of years, the Samrian"}, {"end": "04:34:32", "start": "04:34:27", "text": "cities of Eridu and Ur were myths, but"}, {"end": "04:34:34", "start": "04:34:30", "text": "they were eventually found. And in the"}, {"end": "04:34:37", "start": "04:34:32", "text": "city of Ur, a tomb was discovered. In"}, {"end": "04:34:39", "start": "04:34:34", "text": "the tomb was the skeleton of a queen of"}, {"end": "04:34:40", "start": "04:34:37", "text": "the first Sumerian dynasty."}, {"end": "04:34:41", "start": "04:34:39", "text": ">> The first queen?"}, {"end": "04:34:43", "start": "04:34:40", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"end": "04:34:44", "start": "04:34:41", "text": ">> That would make her a human Anunnaki"}, {"end": "04:34:46", "start": "04:34:43", "text": "hybrid."}, {"end": "04:34:47", "start": "04:34:44", "text": ">> Well, according to the legend, it would."}, {"end": "04:34:52", "start": "04:34:46", "text": ">> Is she?"}, {"end": "04:34:52", "start": "04:34:47", "text": ">> Sure looks like it. Yatsi."}, {"end": "04:35:01", "start": "04:34:57", "text": "The ancient Sumerian city of war had"}, {"end": "04:35:03", "start": "04:34:59", "text": "been lost for thousands of years, but in"}, {"end": "04:35:05", "start": "04:35:01", "text": "the early 20th century, it was"}, {"end": "04:35:07", "start": "04:35:03", "text": "discovered. In 1927, British"}, {"end": "04:35:10", "start": "04:35:05", "text": "archaeologist Leonard Woolly discovered"}, {"end": "04:35:13", "start": "04:35:07", "text": "the remains of Queen Puabi. She's queen"}, {"end": "04:35:14", "start": "04:35:10", "text": "of the first dynasty of war, which if"}, {"end": "04:35:16", "start": "04:35:13", "text": "you believe the ancient astronaut"}, {"end": "04:35:19", "start": "04:35:14", "text": "theory, places her very close to when"}, {"end": "04:35:21", "start": "04:35:16", "text": "the Anunnaki started creating humans."}, {"end": "04:35:24", "start": "04:35:19", "text": "It's been speculated that Queen Puabi"}, {"end": "04:35:27", "start": "04:35:21", "text": "was a human Anunnaki hybrid."}, {"end": "04:35:29", "start": "04:35:24", "text": "Her skull was huge, elongated, and the"}, {"end": "04:35:31", "start": "04:35:27", "text": "Anunnaki were described as having skulls"}, {"end": "04:35:34", "start": "04:35:29", "text": "just like this. There's currently an"}, {"end": "04:35:35", "start": "04:35:31", "text": "effort to have her DNA tested, but that"}, {"end": "04:35:36", "start": "04:35:34", "text": "project has been met with some"}, {"end": "04:35:38", "start": "04:35:35", "text": "resistance."}, {"end": "04:35:40", "start": "04:35:36", "text": ">> Yeah, predictable."}, {"end": "04:35:42", "start": "04:35:38", "text": ">> Now, Queen Puabi is not unique."}, {"end": "04:35:44", "start": "04:35:40", "text": "Elongated skulls have been found all"}, {"end": "04:35:46", "start": "04:35:42", "text": "over the world. A large number of them"}, {"end": "04:35:47", "start": "04:35:44", "text": "have been found in Peru. They're called"}, {"end": "04:35:49", "start": "04:35:46", "text": "the Baraca skulls."}, {"end": "04:35:51", "start": "04:35:47", "text": ">> Now, let me guess. They're also against"}, {"end": "04:35:53", "start": "04:35:49", "text": "DNA testing."}, {"end": "04:35:56", "start": "04:35:51", "text": ">> They're actually not. Their DNA was"}, {"end": "04:35:59", "start": "04:35:53", "text": "tested in 2014 and the results were"}, {"end": "04:36:01", "start": "04:35:56", "text": "surprising."}, {"end": "04:36:04", "start": "04:35:59", "text": "The skulls date back thousands of years"}, {"end": "04:36:05", "start": "04:36:01", "text": "and have DNA only found in people in the"}, {"end": "04:36:07", "start": "04:36:04", "text": "Middle East."}, {"end": "04:36:10", "start": "04:36:05", "text": ">> Uh uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but the"}, {"end": "04:36:12", "start": "04:36:07", "text": "Peru is not in the Middle East, is it?"}, {"end": "04:36:15", "start": "04:36:10", "text": ">> It's not. And listen to this. The DNA"}, {"end": "04:36:18", "start": "04:36:12", "text": "from the largest skull has genetics that"}, {"end": "04:36:20", "start": "04:36:15", "text": "originate in Mesopotamia. They're real."}, {"end": "04:36:22", "start": "04:36:18", "text": "Nah, they're nucky."}, {"end": "04:36:22", "start": "04:36:20", "text": ">> Well, mainstream science doesn't think"}, {"end": "04:36:27", "start": "04:36:22", "text": "so."}, {"end": "04:36:27", "start": "04:36:22", "text": ">> Yeah, mainstream science can go pound."}, {"end": "04:36:32", "start": "04:36:27", "text": ">> One of the researchers of the skulls, La"}, {"end": "04:36:34", "start": "04:36:29", "text": "Marzulli, believes the skulls belong to"}, {"end": "04:36:36", "start": "04:36:32", "text": "Nephilim hybrids. And it's interesting"}, {"end": "04:36:38", "start": "04:36:34", "text": "that people with Middle Eastern DNA were"}, {"end": "04:36:40", "start": "04:36:36", "text": "in the jungles of South America"}, {"end": "04:36:41", "start": "04:36:38", "text": "thousands of years ago. Are they"}, {"end": "04:36:42", "start": "04:36:40", "text": "Nephilim?"}, {"end": "04:36:43", "start": "04:36:41", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"end": "04:36:44", "start": "04:36:42", "text": ">> Anunnaki hybrids?"}, {"end": "04:36:46", "start": "04:36:43", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"end": "04:36:48", "start": "04:36:44", "text": ">> I'll leave it to you to decide. Now, we"}, {"end": "04:36:52", "start": "04:36:46", "text": "know Sitchin was wrong about the planet"}, {"end": "04:36:55", "start": "04:36:48", "text": "Nibiru, but in 2015, Caltech researchers"}, {"end": "04:36:57", "start": "04:36:52", "text": "found evidence of a huge object deep in"}, {"end": "04:37:00", "start": "04:36:55", "text": "the solar system. It's a planet about"}, {"end": "04:37:03", "start": "04:36:57", "text": "the size of Neptune with an orbit so"}, {"end": "04:37:04", "start": "04:37:00", "text": "elliptical it reaches far beyond Pluto,"}, {"end": "04:37:05", "start": "04:37:03", "text": ">> just like Nibiru."}, {"end": "04:37:06", "start": "04:37:04", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"end": "04:37:08", "start": "04:37:05", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "04:37:11", "start": "04:37:06", "text": "Now, there are no photographs of it yet,"}, {"end": "04:37:13", "start": "04:37:08", "text": "but it's so large that its gravity is"}, {"end": "04:37:16", "start": "04:37:11", "text": "affecting the orbits of objects in the"}, {"end": "04:37:22", "start": "04:37:13", "text": "Kyber belt. Researchers say there is a"}, {"end": "04:37:22", "start": "04:37:16", "text": "98% chance the object is there."}, {"end": "04:37:27", "start": "04:37:23", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "04:37:33", "start": "04:37:29", "text": "made us so intelligent. But a"}, {"end": "04:37:36", "start": "04:37:31", "text": "Neanderthal brain was the same size as"}, {"end": "04:37:39", "start": "04:37:33", "text": "ours. Now, they weren't simple cavemen."}, {"end": "04:37:41", "start": "04:37:36", "text": "Neanderthalss built families, societies,"}, {"end": "04:37:44", "start": "04:37:39", "text": "created art, music, and waged organized"}, {"end": "04:37:46", "start": "04:37:41", "text": "war. But homo sapiens eventually wiped"}, {"end": "04:37:48", "start": "04:37:44", "text": "out Neanderthalss."}, {"end": "04:37:51", "start": "04:37:46", "text": "How"}, {"end": "04:37:53", "start": "04:37:48", "text": "Neanderthalss were extremely strong, far"}, {"end": "04:37:56", "start": "04:37:51", "text": "more physically powerful than humans,"}, {"end": "04:37:58", "start": "04:37:53", "text": "and they had the same sized brain. They"}, {"end": "04:38:02", "start": "04:37:56", "text": "should have destroyed us. Why didn't"}, {"end": "04:38:04", "start": "04:37:58", "text": "they? In 2013, Homo Noliti was"}, {"end": "04:38:07", "start": "04:38:02", "text": "discovered. Homo Noliti are an extinct"}, {"end": "04:38:09", "start": "04:38:04", "text": "species of early humans. They had very"}, {"end": "04:38:12", "start": "04:38:07", "text": "small brains only about onethird the"}, {"end": "04:38:14", "start": "04:38:09", "text": "size of ours. Yet, they knew how to make"}, {"end": "04:38:16", "start": "04:38:12", "text": "stone tools. They conducted funeral"}, {"end": "04:38:18", "start": "04:38:14", "text": "rituals, which implies they had"}, {"end": "04:38:21", "start": "04:38:16", "text": "religion, or some idea of an afterlife,"}, {"end": "04:38:23", "start": "04:38:18", "text": "which also implies they had language."}, {"end": "04:38:25", "start": "04:38:21", "text": "They were very intelligent."}, {"end": "04:38:29", "start": "04:38:23", "text": "So, if brain size doesn't indicate"}, {"end": "04:38:31", "start": "04:38:25", "text": "intelligence, what does? Well, in 2020,"}, {"end": "04:38:34", "start": "04:38:29", "text": "a very interesting study was released by"}, {"end": "04:38:36", "start": "04:38:31", "text": "scientists at the Maxplank Institute of"}, {"end": "04:38:38", "start": "04:38:34", "text": "Cell Biology and Genetics. They"}, {"end": "04:38:40", "start": "04:38:36", "text": "identified a genetic mutation that"}, {"end": "04:38:43", "start": "04:38:38", "text": "triggered the faster creation of neurons"}, {"end": "04:38:45", "start": "04:38:40", "text": "in the homo sapien brain. The gene is"}, {"end": "04:38:47", "start": "04:38:43", "text": "known as TKTL1."}, {"end": "04:38:50", "start": "04:38:45", "text": "Other homminids also had this gene,"}, {"end": "04:38:52", "start": "04:38:47", "text": "including the anderthalss, but they all"}, {"end": "04:38:56", "start": "04:38:50", "text": "differ from the modern human gene by one"}, {"end": "04:38:57", "start": "04:38:52", "text": "amino acid. This small change wouldn't"}, {"end": "04:38:59", "start": "04:38:56", "text": "come from crossbreeding or years of"}, {"end": "04:39:01", "start": "04:38:57", "text": "evolution."}, {"end": "04:39:04", "start": "04:38:59", "text": "The only time we see a single gene"}, {"end": "04:39:06", "start": "04:39:01", "text": "altered this specifically is when that"}, {"end": "04:39:11", "start": "04:39:04", "text": "gene is targeted and manipulated with"}, {"end": "04:39:14", "start": "04:39:06", "text": "technology, with genetic engineering."}, {"end": "04:39:16", "start": "04:39:11", "text": "By altering this one gene, homo sapiens"}, {"end": "04:39:19", "start": "04:39:14", "text": "are able to grow neurons much faster"}, {"end": "04:39:21", "start": "04:39:16", "text": "than any other homminid species. Faster"}, {"end": "04:39:24", "start": "04:39:19", "text": "by far."}, {"end": "04:39:26", "start": "04:39:21", "text": "For 300,000 years, Homo sapiens didn't"}, {"end": "04:39:28", "start": "04:39:24", "text": "change much. They didn't invent or"}, {"end": "04:39:30", "start": "04:39:26", "text": "innovate. In fact, Neanderthalss were"}, {"end": "04:39:34", "start": "04:39:28", "text": "the dominant species on Earth up until"}, {"end": "04:39:36", "start": "04:39:30", "text": "about 50,000 years ago. Then something"}, {"end": "04:39:39", "start": "04:39:34", "text": "happened. Men suddenly started to"}, {"end": "04:39:42", "start": "04:39:36", "text": "create, reason, and invent. Within a few"}, {"end": "04:39:44", "start": "04:39:39", "text": "generations, Neanderthalss were wiped"}, {"end": "04:39:46", "start": "04:39:42", "text": "out and homo sapiens conquered the world"}, {"end": "04:39:50", "start": "04:39:44", "text": "and our species has been rapidly"}, {"end": "04:39:50", "start": "04:39:46", "text": "advancing ever since."}, {"end": "04:39:59", "start": "04:39:52", "text": "That gene TKTL1 with just a tiny tweak"}, {"end": "04:40:01", "start": "04:39:57", "text": "acted like a turbo switch in our minds"}, {"end": "04:40:04", "start": "04:39:59", "text": "and made us who we are today. Now, you"}, {"end": "04:40:06", "start": "04:40:01", "text": "may not believe in the Anunnaki, but you"}, {"end": "04:40:09", "start": "04:40:04", "text": "still have to wonder who flipped the"}, {"end": "04:40:09", "start": "04:40:06", "text": "switch."}, {"end": "04:40:17", "start": "04:40:14", "text": "Thank you so much for hanging out today."}, {"end": "04:40:19", "start": "04:40:15", "text": "My name is AJ. There's Hecklefish."}, {"end": "04:40:21", "start": "04:40:17", "text": ">> Hey, uh, can somebody point me in a"}, {"end": "04:40:23", "start": "04:40:19", "text": "direction of Sandra Bullet?"}, {"end": "04:40:25", "start": "04:40:21", "text": ">> This has been a Y Files compilation. If"}, {"end": "04:40:28", "start": "04:40:23", "text": "you had fun or learned anything, do us a"}, {"end": "04:40:30", "start": "04:40:25", "text": "favor. Like, subscribe, comment, share."}, {"end": "04:40:34", "start": "04:40:28", "text": "That stuff I think helps the channel."}, {"end": "04:40:36", "start": "04:40:30", "text": "Things are things are weird. Anyway, um,"}, {"end": "04:40:38", "start": "04:40:34", "text": "like every topic we cover, every topic"}, {"end": "04:40:39", "start": "04:40:36", "text": "you saw today was recommended by someone"}, {"end": "04:40:41", "start": "04:40:38", "text": "in the audience. So, if there's"}, {"end": "04:40:43", "start": "04:40:39", "text": "something you want to see, go to the"}, {"end": "04:40:45", "start": "04:40:41", "text": "wfiles.com/tips."}, {"end": "04:40:47", "start": "04:40:43", "text": "Remember, the Yfiles is also a podcast."}, {"end": "04:40:48", "start": "04:40:45", "text": "Once, twice a week, I post episodes"}, {"end": "04:40:51", "start": "04:40:47", "text": "about the stuff we cover here on the"}, {"end": "04:40:52", "start": "04:40:48", "text": "channel and sometimes post episodes that"}, {"end": "04:40:54", "start": "04:40:51", "text": "wouldn't be allowed on the channel."}, {"end": "04:40:59", "start": "04:40:52", "text": "Those are labeled redacted. So, it's"}, {"end": "04:41:01", "start": "04:40:54", "text": "called the W Files Operation Podcast"}, {"end": "04:41:03", "start": "04:40:59", "text": "and it's available everywhere. And look,"}, {"end": "04:41:07", "start": "04:41:01", "text": "if you are listening on one of the audio"}, {"end": "04:41:09", "start": "04:41:03", "text": "platforms, click the like or the sub sub"}, {"end": "04:41:11", "start": "04:41:07", "text": "or whatever the buttons are. That really"}, {"end": "04:41:12", "start": "04:41:09", "text": "helps us. Now, if you want to make some"}, {"end": "04:41:14", "start": "04:41:11", "text": "new friends and need more Wi-Fi files in"}, {"end": "04:41:17", "start": "04:41:12", "text": "your life, check out our Discord. We've"}, {"end": "04:41:19", "start": "04:41:14", "text": "got 75 80,000 members on there. So,"}, {"end": "04:41:21", "start": "04:41:17", "text": "there's someone on there 24/7 talking"}, {"end": "04:41:23", "start": "04:41:19", "text": "about all the same weird stuff. It's a"}, {"end": "04:41:25", "start": "04:41:21", "text": "really supportive community. It's a lot"}, {"end": "04:41:28", "start": "04:41:23", "text": "of fun and it's free to join. Now,"}, {"end": "04:41:31", "start": "04:41:25", "text": "speaking of 24/7, if you go to the Y"}, {"end": "04:41:33", "start": "04:41:28", "text": "Files backstage, we run episodes back to"}, {"end": "04:41:35", "start": "04:41:31", "text": "back all day, all night, and in between"}, {"end": "04:41:38", "start": "04:41:33", "text": "the episodes is some fun stuff. You"}, {"end": "04:41:40", "start": "04:41:35", "text": "might like it. So, that's at the Y Files"}, {"end": "04:41:43", "start": "04:41:38", "text": "backstage. I think it's linked below. If"}, {"end": "04:41:46", "start": "04:41:40", "text": "not, you'll have to find it. It's become"}, {"end": "04:41:48", "start": "04:41:43", "text": "a community all on its own. It's"}, {"end": "04:41:50", "start": "04:41:46", "text": "actually kind of fun. Special thanks to"}, {"end": "04:41:52", "start": "04:41:48", "text": "our Patreon members. You guys are the"}, {"end": "04:41:55", "start": "04:41:50", "text": "best. You keep us going. Every episode"}, {"end": "04:41:57", "start": "04:41:52", "text": "is dedicated to you. Couldn't do this"}, {"end": "04:41:59", "start": "04:41:55", "text": "without you. I appreciate every single"}, {"end": "04:42:00", "start": "04:41:57", "text": "one of you. And if you want to support"}, {"end": "04:42:03", "start": "04:41:59", "text": "the channel, join this amazing"}, {"end": "04:42:04", "start": "04:42:00", "text": "community, keep us going, then consider"}, {"end": "04:42:07", "start": "04:42:03", "text": "becoming a member on Patreon. For as"}, {"end": "04:42:09", "start": "04:42:04", "text": "little as three bucks a month, you well,"}, {"end": "04:42:12", "start": "04:42:07", "text": "you support us, but you get perks like"}, {"end": "04:42:14", "start": "04:42:09", "text": "episodes early with no commercials. Um,"}, {"end": "04:42:18", "start": "04:42:12", "text": "access to merch only available to"}, {"end": "04:42:20", "start": "04:42:14", "text": "members. But I think the best perk is um"}, {"end": "04:42:22", "start": "04:42:18", "text": "are the live streams. I do two uh two"}, {"end": "04:42:23", "start": "04:42:20", "text": "private live streams every week just for"}, {"end": "04:42:26", "start": "04:42:22", "text": "Patreon members. And there's not that"}, {"end": "04:42:27", "start": "04:42:23", "text": "many people in there. So my camera's on,"}, {"end": "04:42:30", "start": "04:42:26", "text": "everybody's camera is on, the whole"}, {"end": "04:42:32", "start": "04:42:27", "text": "team, even yours. So we get to talk to"}, {"end": "04:42:34", "start": "04:42:30", "text": "each other like people. You can hop up"}, {"end": "04:42:36", "start": "04:42:32", "text": "on stage, tell a joke, recommend a"}, {"end": "04:42:37", "start": "04:42:34", "text": "topic, ask a follow-up question,"}, {"end": "04:42:39", "start": "04:42:36", "text": "whatever you want to do. The time is"}, {"end": "04:42:41", "start": "04:42:37", "text": "yours. I think it's a great perk."}, {"end": "04:42:43", "start": "04:42:39", "text": "Another great way to support the channel"}, {"end": "04:42:45", "start": "04:42:41", "text": "is grab something from the Wi-Fi store."}, {"end": "04:42:47", "start": "04:42:43", "text": ">> Get yourself a vegetable coffee mug that"}, {"end": "04:42:49", "start": "04:42:45", "text": "you stick your fist in or a hoodie or"}, {"end": "04:42:51", "start": "04:42:47", "text": "something with my face on it. Or you can"}, {"end": "04:42:53", "start": "04:42:49", "text": "get one of these weird haunted voodoo"}, {"end": "04:42:55", "start": "04:42:51", "text": "dolls that uh I don't know why we have"}, {"end": "04:42:57", "start": "04:42:53", "text": "these but you can get one if you want."}, {"end": "04:42:59", "start": "04:42:55", "text": "But you're the best thing at all in all"}, {"end": "04:43:01", "start": "04:42:57", "text": "the store in all the stores in the"}, {"end": "04:43:03", "start": "04:42:59", "text": "world."}, {"end": "04:43:05", "start": "04:43:01", "text": "The team's got some good stuff. No,"}, {"end": "04:43:10", "start": "04:43:03", "text": "don't go on there. Don't go on there."}, {"end": "04:43:12", "start": "04:43:05", "text": "Get a squeezy animal target"}, {"end": "04:43:13", "start": "04:43:10", "text": "fish."}, {"end": "04:43:14", "start": "04:43:12", "text": ">> But if you're going to shop on the"}, {"end": "04:43:17", "start": "04:43:13", "text": "store, become a member on YouTube"}, {"end": "04:43:18", "start": "04:43:14", "text": "because you get a coupon for 10% off"}, {"end": "04:43:20", "start": "04:43:17", "text": "everything in the store. So, if you're"}, {"end": "04:43:23", "start": "04:43:18", "text": "going to spend 40 bucks on t-shirts,"}, {"end": "04:43:24", "start": "04:43:20", "text": "become a member on YouTube for $3. It"}, {"end": "04:43:26", "start": "04:43:23", "text": "pays for itself and then you can cancel"}, {"end": "04:43:28", "start": "04:43:24", "text": "if you want. Um, I don't mind. The"}, {"end": "04:43:30", "start": "04:43:26", "text": "membership is not a way for me to make"}, {"end": "04:43:32", "start": "04:43:28", "text": "money. It's a way for you to save money."}, {"end": "04:43:35", "start": "04:43:30", "text": "So, I don't keep any of it anyway. All"}, {"end": "04:43:38", "start": "04:43:32", "text": "the money goes to the team and helps"}, {"end": "04:43:39", "start": "04:43:35", "text": "keep them happy and keep us going. Man,"}, {"end": "04:43:41", "start": "04:43:38", "text": "I'm not editing any of this. I'm just"}, {"end": "04:43:44", "start": "04:43:39", "text": "going to let it fly. It's been a long"}, {"end": "04:43:45", "start": "04:43:41", "text": "night and I have a lot of travel ahead."}, {"end": "04:43:48", "start": "04:43:44", "text": "Did I get all the plugs? I think I got"}, {"end": "04:43:51", "start": "04:43:45", "text": "them. Until next time, be safe. Be kind."}, {"end": "04:43:53", "start": "04:43:48", "text": "I'm doing the best I can. Know that you"}, {"end": "04:43:57", "start": "04:43:51", "text": "are appreciated. And if you stuck around"}, {"end": "04:43:57", "start": "04:43:53", "text": "this long, you really are."}, {"end": "04:44:16", "start": "04:44:01", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "04:44:20", "start": "04:44:11", "text": "I play in Area 51. A secret code inside"}, {"end": "04:44:24", "start": "04:44:16", "text": "the Bible said I would."}, {"end": "04:44:30", "start": "04:44:20", "text": "I love my UFOs and paranal fun as well"}, {"end": "04:44:32", "start": "04:44:24", "text": "as music singing like I should."}, {"end": "04:44:35", "start": "04:44:30", "text": "But then another conspiracy theory"}, {"end": "04:44:38", "start": "04:44:32", "text": "becomes the truth my friends"}, {"end": "04:44:40", "start": "04:44:35", "text": "and it never ends."}, {"end": "04:44:48", "start": "04:44:38", "text": "No, it never ends."}, {"end": "04:44:48", "start": "04:44:40", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "04:44:55", "start": "04:44:49", "text": "I feel the crap guy. I got stuck inside"}, {"end": "04:44:58", "start": "04:44:51", "text": "Mel's home with MK out of being only"}, {"end": "04:45:00", "start": "04:44:55", "text": "true aware."}, {"end": "04:45:04", "start": "04:44:58", "text": "Did Stanley Cubrick fake the moon"}, {"end": "04:45:08", "start": "04:45:00", "text": "landing alone on a film set of the"}, {"end": "04:45:10", "start": "04:45:04", "text": "shadow people there?"}, {"end": "04:45:13", "start": "04:45:08", "text": "through well just thought the smiling"}, {"end": "04:45:18", "start": "04:45:10", "text": "man I'm told"}, {"end": "04:45:21", "start": "04:45:13", "text": "and his name was cold and I can't agree"}, {"end": "04:45:25", "start": "04:45:18", "text": "I'm dancing with the fish"}, {"end": "04:45:25", "start": "04:45:21", "text": "on Thursday night Wednesday"}, {"end": "04:45:30", "start": "04:45:25", "text": "all through the night"}, {"end": "04:45:34", "start": "04:45:28", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "04:45:37", "start": "04:45:30", "text": "I ever wanted to hear the truth so"}, {"end": "04:45:37", "start": "04:45:34", "text": "all through the"}, {"end": "04:45:58", "start": "04:45:39", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "04:46:01", "start": "04:45:55", "text": "The m sidings and the solar storm still"}, {"end": "04:46:04", "start": "04:45:58", "text": "come to gather this young city"}, {"end": "04:46:04", "start": "04:46:01", "text": "underground."}, {"end": "04:46:10", "start": "04:46:04", "text": "Mysterious number stations, Planet"}, {"end": "04:46:14", "start": "04:46:06", "text": "Circle, Project Stargate, and what the"}, {"end": "04:46:17", "start": "04:46:10", "text": "Dark Watchers found"}, {"end": "04:46:21", "start": "04:46:14", "text": "in a simulation. Don't you worry though."}, {"end": "04:46:25", "start": "04:46:17", "text": "The black night"}, {"end": "04:46:27", "start": "04:46:21", "text": "so I can't believe I'm dancing with the"}, {"end": "04:46:31", "start": "04:46:25", "text": "fish"}, {"end": "04:46:31", "start": "04:46:27", "text": "on Thursday night when they ch"}, {"end": "04:46:35", "start": "04:46:32", "text": "the night."}, {"end": "04:46:44", "start": "04:46:36", "text": "All I ever wanted was to hear the truth."}, {"end": "04:46:44", "start": "04:46:38", "text": "Cuz when my all through the night"}, {"end": "04:46:52", "start": "04:46:48", "text": "you"}, {"end": "04:46:52", "start": "04:46:50", "text": "all through the"}, {"end": "04:47:03", "start": "04:46:54", "text": "All I ever wanted was to give the truth."}, {"end": "04:47:03", "start": "04:46:58", "text": "One more time on the road."}, {"end": "04:47:18", "start": "04:47:11", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "04:47:21", "start": "04:47:14", "text": "Girl loves to dance."}, {"end": "04:47:25", "start": "04:47:18", "text": "Girl loves to dance on the dance floor"}, {"end": "04:47:29", "start": "04:47:21", "text": "because she is a camel. Caramel love to"}, {"end": "04:47:32", "start": "04:47:25", "text": "dance when the feeling is right"}, {"end": "04:47:41", "start": "04:47:29", "text": "in time."}, {"end": "04:47:41", "start": "04:47:32", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "04:47:49", "start": "04:47:44", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"end": "00:00:07", "start": "00:00:01", "text": "This episode of the Y Files is brought"}, {"end": "00:00:07", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "to you by PDS debt."}, {"end": "00:00:13", "start": "00:00:07", "text": "On July 11th, 2023, just after sunset, a"}, {"end": "00:00:16", "start": "00:00:11", "text": "girl started screaming."}, {"end": "00:00:18", "start": "00:00:13", "text": "The men on patrol responded quickly."}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:16", "text": "Over the past few weeks, something had"}, {"end": "00:00:22", "start": "00:00:18", "text": "been terrorizing their village, and"}, {"end": "00:00:24", "start": "00:00:19", "text": "tonight they were ready. The men, armed"}, {"end": "00:00:26", "start": "00:00:22", "text": "with hunting rifles and shotguns, opened"}, {"end": "00:00:29", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "fire. The bullets had no effect. The"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:26", "text": "attackers were 7 ft tall, covered in"}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:29", "text": "black armor with large helmets and"}, {"end": "00:00:37", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "glowing yellow eyes. In an instant, they"}, {"end": "00:00:39", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "were gone. But they didn't run. They"}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:37", "text": "hovered 6 ft off the ground and"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:39", "text": "disappeared into the Amazon jungle."}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "The girl was bleeding from a cut on her"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "neck and barely conscious. She almost"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "became another victim of los pelicaras,"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "the face peelers. At first, the"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "authorities didn't believe in face"}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "peelers. than the body showing up."}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "Bodies without faces."}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "Yeah, human. Pack your bags and your"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "tiniest speedo. We're going to Atlantis,"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "baby."}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "How do you know about my speedo?"}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "I've seen your beach pics and your shame"}, {"end": "00:01:23", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "is visible from orbit."}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "What's this about? I'm in the middle of"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:23", "text": "something. I just invested in Oceanfront"}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "Time Share Real Estate, Poseidon's"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "Whisper Resort and Ceviche Bar."}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "That's not a real place."}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "Uh, well, that's what I said. And that's"}, {"end": "00:01:39", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "why I got the exclusive pre-sale rate"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "from these two slick guys named Rick and"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:39", "text": "other Rick. They even gave me a VIP"}, {"end": "00:01:46", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "towel that says I got wet at Poseidon's"}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "Whisper."}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:46", "text": "How much did this exclusive rate cost?"}, {"end": "00:01:53", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "Well, I sold your crypto, melted down"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "your silverware, and sweetened the deal"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "with a photo of you in that Speedo. Full"}, {"end": "00:02:01", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "frontal. I still owe about 25 grand. So,"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "uh, could you give me a tiny wy teeny"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "weeny weeny favor?"}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "Absolutely not. After all these scams"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "you've fallen for, you think you'd"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "learned your lesson by now."}, {"end": "00:02:11", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "Rick said you can't take it with you."}, {"end": "00:02:12", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "So, uh, spend it like you died"}, {"end": "00:02:15", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "yesterday."}, {"end": "00:02:17", "start": "00:02:12", "text": "Or you can use PDS debt and get out of"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:15", "text": "this mess. Oh, did you just say VJ"}, {"end": "00:02:22", "start": "00:02:17", "text": "slapped me into the sponsor?"}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "You bet your little prod I did. It"}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "starts with one missed bill, then"}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "another. Suddenly, your mailbox is full"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "of final notices. Debt collectors want"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "your car, your home, your paycheck, your"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "peace. Debt doesn't wait, it destroys."}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "But there's a way out. PDS Debt has"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "helped hundreds of thousands escape"}, {"end": "00:02:43", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "before it was too late. They go beyond"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "the numbers to understand your situation"}, {"end": "00:02:46", "start": "00:02:43", "text": "and create a personalized plan. And"}, {"end": "00:02:49", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "there's no minimum credit score"}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:46", "text": "required. PBS Debt is here to help you"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:49", "text": "save more, pay off debt faster, and"}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "start putting money back in your pocket."}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "They're A+ rated by the BBB and have"}, {"end": "00:03:00", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "thousands of five-star reviews on Google"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "and Trust Pilot. Proof that PDS Debt is"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "a trusted solution for people who need"}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "real help. We've all been there. Debt is"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "overwhelming. The interest piles up and"}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "you feel stuck. If you're dealing with"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "credit card debt, personal loans,"}, {"end": "00:03:16", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "medical bills, or collections, don't"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "wait. You're 30 seconds away from being"}, {"end": "00:03:20", "start": "00:03:16", "text": "debtree. Get your free assessment and"}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "find the best option for you right now"}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:20", "text": "at pdsd.com/files."}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "That's pdsdebt.com/files."}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "pdsdebt.com/files."}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "That's right."}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "This is huge. Once I'm debtree, I can"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "finally focus on my motivational"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "podcast."}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "Oh, no. It's called live, laugh,"}, {"end": "00:03:45", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "liquidate. This includes other Rick and"}, {"end": "00:03:47", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "a guy named Sam Bank something."}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:45", "text": "Sam Bankman been freed."}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:47", "text": "That's him. Yeah, he said for 20 bucks"}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "he'd make me rich and uh legally"}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "untraceable."}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:03:59", "text": "The attacks in 2023 were shocking, but"}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "they weren't new. For years, something"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "has been hunting people in the Amazon."}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "In the 1970s, the island Coladis in"}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "Brazil was under siege. People were"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "attacked by beams of light that drained"}, {"end": "00:04:18", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "their blood. They all had burn marks and"}, {"end": "00:04:21", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "puncture wounds that doctors couldn't"}, {"end": "00:04:23", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "explain. There were over 200 victims."}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "Two people even died. Finally, the mayor"}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:23", "text": "begged the government for help. The"}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "Brazilian Air Force took thousands of"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "photographs, videos, and witness"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "testimonies. That was Operation Pr."}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "There's a link below to the whole story."}, {"end": "00:04:38", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "It can't be debunked. And there's a"}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "twist. But in case you haven't seen it,"}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "I won't spoil it. Brazil, Colombia, and"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "Peru kept having encounters, all"}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "violent. The earliest documented case"}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "was Juan Cervantes in 2013. His body was"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "found floating in Lake Amria. No signs"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "of drowning or trauma, but his face was"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "completely gone, right down to the"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "skull, and there was a precise cut all"}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "around his neck. Skeptics said he was"}, {"end": "00:05:08", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "attacked by piranhas, but the autopsy"}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "showed he died before he went into the"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:08", "text": "water. Fish would have eaten more than"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "just his face, and fish don't make"}, {"end": "00:05:19", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "surgical cuts, but the face peelers do."}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "In April 2023, the face peelers attacked"}, {"end": "00:05:25", "start": "00:05:19", "text": "again. A boy's body was found in the"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "same area. Again, his face was gone."}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:25", "text": "Again, precise cuts. There's a video of"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "this if you want to see it, which you"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "don't."}, {"end": "00:05:37", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "The attacks then accelerated. On"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "September 2nd, 2023, Pablo Verdales, a"}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:37", "text": "villager from Pakuna Lake, was sitting"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "on his porch. About 7 at night, he saw a"}, {"end": "00:05:47", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "light between the trees only 50 ft from"}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "his house. He called his family out and"}, {"end": "00:05:52", "start": "00:05:47", "text": "everyone saw the same thing. Humanoid"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "beings about 7t tall. They wore black"}, {"end": "00:05:57", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "astronautlike armor. They wore black"}, {"end": "00:05:59", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "helmets that hid their features except"}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:57", "text": "for glowing yellow eyes. And most"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:05:59", "text": "shocking, they stood on discshaped"}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "platforms and hovered above the ground."}, {"end": "00:06:08", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "Pablo fired his shotgun and hit one of"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "them. Except for a few sparks from the"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:08", "text": "impact on the armor, the entity was"}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "unaffected. Then it returned fire. It"}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "shot a laser beam that knocked Pablo out"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "for hours. Then the beings accelerated"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "into the air and disappeared into the"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "night sky. There was no doubt this was"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "yet another alien attack in the Amazon."}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "Not only did the villagers see the"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "aliens up close, they also saw large,"}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "silent craft hovering in the sky. They"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "were acorn-shaped, the length of a"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "private jet, but wider. No wings, no"}, {"end": "00:06:43", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "propellers, just bumps on a hull and a"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "lot of flashing lights. The major hot"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:43", "text": "spot was San Antonio Depinyaku, a remote"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "village in the jungle occupied by the"}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "indigenous Ikadoo people. The only way"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "in or out is a 10-hour boat ride down"}, {"end": "00:06:57", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "the Ni River. In the summer of 2023,"}, {"end": "00:07:00", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "there were sightings every night."}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:57", "text": "Village leader Hierro Davila documented"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "all of them. The reports were"}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "consistent. Beings 7 feet tall, wearing"}, {"end": "00:07:10", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "black armor and elongated black helmets"}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "with yellow eyes. They didn't walk. They"}, {"end": "00:07:13", "start": "00:07:10", "text": "had red lights at the bottom of their"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "feet that allowed them to hover. They"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "could jump over houses. The only sound"}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "was a faint hiss as they accelerated."}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "Every night, men grabbed rifles and"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "patrolled the perimeter. Their weapons"}, {"end": "00:07:26", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "were useless. Shotgun pellets made a"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "dull pinging sound when bouncing off the"}, {"end": "00:07:31", "start": "00:07:26", "text": "alien's armor. The community lived in"}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "constant fear, too scared to hunt or"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "farm. Food supplies ran low. They were"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "trapped. The attacks seemed random."}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "Nobody knew what these beings wanted."}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "But that would change when 15-year-old"}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "Tia was attacked. After she escaped, she"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "told her family exactly what the aliens"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "wanted. They wanted her face. They asked"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "how she knew this. She said, \"I heard"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "them say it."}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "On July 11th, 2023, Talia Dabila Diaz"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:08:01", "text": "was in her backyard picking fruit, as"}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "she did almost every night. Suddenly,"}, {"end": "00:08:10", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "she felt a rush of wind behind her. She"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "turned around and saw a tall figure"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:10", "text": "hovering on a circular platform. It was"}, {"end": "00:08:17", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "covered in black armor and had bright"}, {"end": "00:08:19", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "yellow eyes. It moved silently and"}, {"end": "00:08:21", "start": "00:08:17", "text": "faster than any human she'd ever seen."}, {"end": "00:08:23", "start": "00:08:19", "text": "Then another being grabbed her from"}, {"end": "00:08:25", "start": "00:08:21", "text": "behind and covered her mouth. The first"}, {"end": "00:08:28", "start": "00:08:23", "text": "held her legs. She fought, but their"}, {"end": "00:08:31", "start": "00:08:25", "text": "grip was unnaturally strong. Then the"}, {"end": "00:08:33", "start": "00:08:28", "text": "attack became a procedure. One of the"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:31", "text": "figures put something like a nasal"}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:33", "text": "syringe up her nose. Instantly, Tia was"}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "overwhelmed by a sharp chemical smell."}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:39", "text": "Her vision began to blur as she started"}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "to lose consciousness. They had given"}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "her some kind of seditive. Then they"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "smeared cold cream on her face."}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "Terrified and disoriented, her face"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "started going numb. Then she heard them"}, {"end": "00:08:59", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "speaking, speaking Spanish. One had a"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "local Peruvian accent. The other had an"}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:08:59", "text": "American accent, a gringo. She heard the"}, {"end": "00:09:06", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "local voice say, \"Be careful. Be"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "careful.\" Then he said the words that"}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "defined this entire phenomenon. Don't"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "use too much. You'll ruin the flesh."}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "They weren't trying to kill her. They"}, {"end": "00:09:19", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "were trying to peel her face. One of"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "them produced a small glowing device, a"}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:19", "text": "laser scalpel. She heard a humming sound"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "and smelled something burning. They were"}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "cutting into the side of her neck."}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "Somehow she was able to get her hand"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "under the helmet of one of her"}, {"end": "00:09:34", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "attackers. This gave her just enough"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "time to scream. Then she heard the local"}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:34", "text": "attacker say, \"Let's get out of here.\""}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "Then the Americans said, \"No, we can't"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "just leave her here.\" They tried to drag"}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "her onto one of the platforms, but the"}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "villagers heard the struggle. They came"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "running with flashlights and shotguns."}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:47", "text": "The figures dropped to Leia and shot"}, {"end": "00:09:55", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "straight up into the sky, gone. They"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "left no bootprints, just two perfect"}, {"end": "00:10:00", "start": "00:09:55", "text": "circles pressed into the soft ground."}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "Tia survived, but with a deep cut on her"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:10:00", "text": "neck and severe PTSD, but her story"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "finally revealed the invader's motive,"}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "to peel the skin off her face."}, {"end": "00:10:14", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "What happened to Diaz seemed shocking"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:11", "text": "and new, but for the Ikatu elders, it"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "was both terrifying and familiar. They"}, {"end": "00:10:23", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "knew this story. It had been passed down"}, {"end": "00:10:23", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "through the tribe for 500 years."}, {"end": "00:10:38", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "The technology was new. The method of"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "attack wasn't. The Ikatu tribe elders"}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:38", "text": "knew exactly what they were facing"}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "because their ancestors had faced it"}, {"end": "00:10:47", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "before. They had a name for it, Pishaco."}, {"end": "00:10:49", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "In the 1500s, when Spanish concistadors"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:47", "text": "tore through Peru with steel and"}, {"end": "00:10:53", "start": "00:10:49", "text": "gunpowder, they were searching for gold."}, {"end": "00:10:57", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "Any locals that got in their way were"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:53", "text": "killed. But it got worse. The Spanish"}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:57", "text": "were taking something from the bodies of"}, {"end": "00:11:04", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "the dead. Something the Andian people"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "considered very valuable. Human fat. In"}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:04", "text": "Europe, fat was used to treat wounds,"}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "grease the gears of machines, maintain"}, {"end": "00:11:13", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "weapons. But they believed that human"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "fat was even more potent. But for the"}, {"end": "00:11:19", "start": "00:11:13", "text": "Andian people, this was a desecration."}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "In their culture, fat was life. To take"}, {"end": "00:11:24", "start": "00:11:19", "text": "a person's fat was to steal their"}, {"end": "00:11:26", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "essence. The pishtaco was born from this"}, {"end": "00:11:29", "start": "00:11:24", "text": "horror. A pale-kinned man who hunted at"}, {"end": "00:11:31", "start": "00:11:26", "text": "night, carried a knife, and peeled the"}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:29", "text": "skin off his victims. Now, this isn't"}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:31", "text": "just a ghost story. In 2009, Provian"}, {"end": "00:11:40", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "police arrested a gang carrying plastic"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "soda bottles filled with liqufied human"}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:40", "text": "fat. They were selling it on the"}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "European black market. Human fat was"}, {"end": "00:11:49", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "supposedly used in high-end cosmetics."}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "The price, $36,000"}, {"end": "00:11:55", "start": "00:11:49", "text": "a gallon. The ancient legend had found a"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "modern market. Evidence of the pistachos"}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:55", "text": "kept appearing. A few days later, in the"}, {"end": "00:12:02", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "village of Okabomba, farmers found all"}, {"end": "00:12:04", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "their sheep dead. The injuries were"}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:12:02", "text": "consistent with animal mutilations from"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:04", "text": "New Mexico to Argentina. Two neat holes"}, {"end": "00:12:14", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "drilled in the skull, eyes removed,"}, {"end": "00:12:17", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "brain gone, no blood, no tracks, no"}, {"end": "00:12:19", "start": "00:12:14", "text": "explanation for how this could be done."}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:17", "text": "After Tia was attacked, the villagers"}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:19", "text": "used a satellite phone to call for help."}, {"end": "00:12:26", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "They wanted the Navy armed soldiers."}, {"end": "00:12:28", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "They wanted protection. Eventually, a"}, {"end": "00:12:30", "start": "00:12:26", "text": "couple of police officers arrived to"}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:28", "text": "investigate. It didn't take them long to"}, {"end": "00:12:38", "start": "00:12:30", "text": "solve the crime. They knew exactly what"}, {"end": "00:12:38", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "this was. Miners wearing jetpacks."}, {"end": "00:12:50", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "The police investigation was brief. The"}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:48", "text": "conclusion was simple. The attackers"}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:50", "text": "were illegal gold miners using jetpacks"}, {"end": "00:12:56", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "to scare the villagers off their land."}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "The international press picked up the"}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:56", "text": "story. It was convenient explanation"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "that dismissed the entire phenomenon and"}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "the explanation stuck. But the story,"}, {"end": "00:13:09", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "the jetpack minor story had holes, big"}, {"end": "00:13:11", "start": "00:13:07", "text": "ones."}, {"end": "00:13:14", "start": "00:13:09", "text": "First, the technology. Commercial"}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:11", "text": "jetpacks are loud, hard to control, and"}, {"end": "00:13:19", "start": "00:13:14", "text": "can fly only for a few minutes. But"}, {"end": "00:13:21", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "witnesses say they hovered for hours,"}, {"end": "00:13:23", "start": "00:13:19", "text": "moved with superhuman agility, leaping"}, {"end": "00:13:26", "start": "00:13:21", "text": "over houses, and all in complete"}, {"end": "00:13:27", "start": "00:13:23", "text": "silence. You couldn't do this in the"}, {"end": "00:13:29", "start": "00:13:26", "text": "middle of the densest jungle in the"}, {"end": "00:13:31", "start": "00:13:27", "text": "world."}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:29", "text": "The villagers had set traps around the"}, {"end": "00:13:36", "start": "00:13:31", "text": "perimeter. Shotguns rigged trip wires."}, {"end": "00:13:38", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "Throughout July, they heard the traps"}, {"end": "00:13:40", "start": "00:13:36", "text": "firing at night. Every morning, they'd"}, {"end": "00:13:42", "start": "00:13:38", "text": "check for bodies. All they found were"}, {"end": "00:13:47", "start": "00:13:40", "text": "mysterious oval footprints twice the"}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:42", "text": "size of human feet and no blood."}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:47", "text": "And the motive doesn't make sense."}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "Cartels and illegal miners want to stay"}, {"end": "00:13:56", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "under the radar. These attacks were"}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:54", "text": "terrifying. They brought global"}, {"end": "00:14:00", "start": "00:13:56", "text": "attention. The last thing a covert"}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "mining operation wants is a visit from"}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:14:00", "text": "the press or the police."}, {"end": "00:14:08", "start": "00:14:03", "text": "The jetpack story collapses completely"}, {"end": "00:14:11", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "when you look at the city of NA nearby."}, {"end": "00:14:14", "start": "00:14:08", "text": "35,000 people and no gold. And yet, a"}, {"end": "00:14:18", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "humanoid figure was caught on video"}, {"end": "00:14:23", "start": "00:14:14", "text": "climbing a rooftop in the dead of night."}, {"end": "00:14:23", "start": "00:14:18", "text": "Why would a minor be doing that?"}, {"end": "00:14:27", "start": "00:14:23", "text": "If these attacks weren't done by minors"}, {"end": "00:14:30", "start": "00:14:25", "text": "or the cartels, then we're looking at"}, {"end": "00:14:34", "start": "00:14:27", "text": "something far darker. Because every year"}, {"end": "00:14:36", "start": "00:14:30", "text": "nearly 12,000 women vanish in Peru. Most"}, {"end": "00:14:39", "start": "00:14:34", "text": "are girls, teenagers. Fewer than half"}, {"end": "00:14:42", "start": "00:14:36", "text": "are ever found. Some are trafficked,"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:39", "text": "others completely disappear, but"}, {"end": "00:14:47", "start": "00:14:42", "text": "disappear to where. Some investigators"}, {"end": "00:14:49", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "believe these women are being used as"}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:47", "text": "livestock."}, {"end": "00:14:54", "start": "00:14:49", "text": "The black market for human organs is a"}, {"end": "00:14:57", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "multi-billion dollar industry. A single"}, {"end": "00:15:00", "start": "00:14:54", "text": "body can be worth millions. The face"}, {"end": "00:15:02", "start": "00:14:57", "text": "peeler motive suddenly had a terrifying"}, {"end": "00:15:04", "start": "00:15:00", "text": "realworld context."}, {"end": "00:15:06", "start": "00:15:02", "text": "Organ harvesting explains the motive."}, {"end": "00:15:09", "start": "00:15:04", "text": "Remote villages provides the"}, {"end": "00:15:10", "start": "00:15:06", "text": "opportunity. But what about the means?"}, {"end": "00:15:13", "start": "00:15:09", "text": "This theory doesn't explain the"}, {"end": "00:15:15", "start": "00:15:10", "text": "technology. Gangs and cartels have a lot"}, {"end": "00:15:17", "start": "00:15:13", "text": "of money, but not for technology like"}, {"end": "00:15:20", "start": "00:15:15", "text": "this. If we're assuming these attacks"}, {"end": "00:15:22", "start": "00:15:17", "text": "are being done by men and not aliens,"}, {"end": "00:15:25", "start": "00:15:20", "text": "who would have such advanced tech? The"}, {"end": "00:15:27", "start": "00:15:22", "text": "CIA and military might. So, was the US"}, {"end": "00:15:29", "start": "00:15:25", "text": "military operating deep in the jungles"}, {"end": "00:15:30", "start": "00:15:27", "text": "of Peru at the exact time of these"}, {"end": "00:15:33", "start": "00:15:29", "text": "attacks?"}, {"end": "00:15:33", "start": "00:15:30", "text": "They were."}, {"end": "00:15:45", "start": "00:15:41", "text": "While the villagers were under attack,"}, {"end": "00:15:49", "start": "00:15:43", "text": "another force was in the jungle,"}, {"end": "00:15:51", "start": "00:15:45", "text": "organized, armed, American."}, {"end": "00:15:54", "start": "00:15:49", "text": "That summer, the US military was running"}, {"end": "00:15:57", "start": "00:15:51", "text": "a massive exercise called Resolute"}, {"end": "00:15:59", "start": "00:15:54", "text": "Sentinel 2023, right out of Aikito's"}, {"end": "00:16:02", "start": "00:15:57", "text": "naval base, just up river from San"}, {"end": "00:16:05", "start": "00:15:59", "text": "Antonio to Pintoyaku to Leah's village."}, {"end": "00:16:08", "start": "00:16:02", "text": "87 US Marines were in the region until"}, {"end": "00:16:11", "start": "00:16:05", "text": "July 9th. The Pelicatus attacks began"}, {"end": "00:16:14", "start": "00:16:08", "text": "July 11th. The timeline is in theory."}, {"end": "00:16:16", "start": "00:16:11", "text": "This is a fact. And the Marines weren't"}, {"end": "00:16:20", "start": "00:16:14", "text": "alone. The operation included multiple"}, {"end": "00:16:23", "start": "00:16:16", "text": "US branches, even the Space Force. Why"}, {"end": "00:16:26", "start": "00:16:20", "text": "was Space Force part of jungle warfare"}, {"end": "00:16:29", "start": "00:16:23", "text": "training in Peru? Nobody asked, so"}, {"end": "00:16:31", "start": "00:16:26", "text": "nobody knows. Suddenly, the villager"}, {"end": "00:16:34", "start": "00:16:29", "text": "stories don't sound like aliens. They"}, {"end": "00:16:36", "start": "00:16:31", "text": "sound like a field test for black budget"}, {"end": "00:16:38", "start": "00:16:34", "text": "technology. The silent hovering isn't a"}, {"end": "00:16:41", "start": "00:16:36", "text": "commercial jetpack. It's consistent with"}, {"end": "00:16:42", "start": "00:16:38", "text": "experimental silent lift systems using"}, {"end": "00:16:45", "start": "00:16:41", "text": "advanced ducted fans or even"}, {"end": "00:16:47", "start": "00:16:42", "text": "electromagnetic propulsion. The armor"}, {"end": "00:16:50", "start": "00:16:45", "text": "sounds a lot like the Talos suit, an"}, {"end": "00:16:52", "start": "00:16:47", "text": "advanced combat exoskeleton. The suit is"}, {"end": "00:16:54", "start": "00:16:50", "text": "bulletproof and enhances a soldier's"}, {"end": "00:16:56", "start": "00:16:52", "text": "speed and strength. Night vision goggles"}, {"end": "00:16:58", "start": "00:16:54", "text": "explain the glowing yellow eyes. The"}, {"end": "00:17:00", "start": "00:16:56", "text": "laser burns match the effects of"}, {"end": "00:17:03", "start": "00:16:58", "text": "directed energy weapons which use"}, {"end": "00:17:05", "start": "00:17:00", "text": "millimeter waves to heat an area. These"}, {"end": "00:17:08", "start": "00:17:03", "text": "weapons work on missiles, so they would"}, {"end": "00:17:10", "start": "00:17:05", "text": "definitely work on human skin. And then"}, {"end": "00:17:13", "start": "00:17:08", "text": "there's the detail from Tia's testimony."}, {"end": "00:17:16", "start": "00:17:10", "text": "Two voices, one local, the other a"}, {"end": "00:17:18", "start": "00:17:13", "text": "gringo, an American."}, {"end": "00:17:20", "start": "00:17:16", "text": "The Peruvian Amazon is an ideal test"}, {"end": "00:17:23", "start": "00:17:18", "text": "site for secret operations and"}, {"end": "00:17:26", "start": "00:17:20", "text": "experimental equipment. Dense terrain,"}, {"end": "00:17:27", "start": "00:17:23", "text": "limited oversight, no media access. It's"}, {"end": "00:17:30", "start": "00:17:26", "text": "a region with a long history of"}, {"end": "00:17:32", "start": "00:17:27", "text": "exploitation. A place where thousands go"}, {"end": "00:17:34", "start": "00:17:30", "text": "missing every year, but this is"}, {"end": "00:17:37", "start": "00:17:32", "text": "something the Peruvian government"}, {"end": "00:17:40", "start": "00:17:34", "text": "doesn't like to discuss. So, jetpacks."}, {"end": "00:17:41", "start": "00:17:37", "text": "The official story was illegal gold"}, {"end": "00:17:44", "start": "00:17:40", "text": "miners with jetpacks. The media bought"}, {"end": "00:17:46", "start": "00:17:41", "text": "it and that was the end of it. But it"}, {"end": "00:17:49", "start": "00:17:44", "text": "wasn't the end for the Ikatu people in"}, {"end": "00:17:51", "start": "00:17:46", "text": "San Antonio Deuyaku. They swore this was"}, {"end": "00:17:53", "start": "00:17:49", "text": "something else. The government wouldn't"}, {"end": "00:17:55", "start": "00:17:51", "text": "listen. The villagers were dismissed as"}, {"end": "00:17:57", "start": "00:17:53", "text": "simple and superstitious. They were"}, {"end": "00:18:01", "start": "00:17:55", "text": "desperate for help. And a few weeks"}, {"end": "00:18:01", "start": "00:17:57", "text": "later, help would arrive."}, {"end": "00:18:13", "start": "00:18:09", "text": "With food supplies running low and the"}, {"end": "00:18:16", "start": "00:18:11", "text": "government silent, the people of San"}, {"end": "00:18:21", "start": "00:18:13", "text": "Antonio Depenty were on their own. Then"}, {"end": "00:18:23", "start": "00:18:16", "text": "in October 2023, help arrived. American"}, {"end": "00:18:25", "start": "00:18:21", "text": "explorer and investigator Tim Alberino"}, {"end": "00:18:27", "start": "00:18:23", "text": "and former Marine Doug Thornton. They"}, {"end": "00:18:30", "start": "00:18:25", "text": "launched a privately funded expedition"}, {"end": "00:18:32", "start": "00:18:27", "text": "to the Amazon. Their mission to provide"}, {"end": "00:18:34", "start": "00:18:30", "text": "aid and find the truth. They brought"}, {"end": "00:18:36", "start": "00:18:32", "text": "supplies, food, and medicine. They"}, {"end": "00:18:38", "start": "00:18:34", "text": "brought high-powered flashlights,"}, {"end": "00:18:40", "start": "00:18:36", "text": "radios, night vision goggles with"}, {"end": "00:18:42", "start": "00:18:38", "text": "recording capabilities. Alberino and"}, {"end": "00:18:44", "start": "00:18:40", "text": "Thornton spent days in the village."}, {"end": "00:18:46", "start": "00:18:42", "text": "Everybody was on edge. Men carried"}, {"end": "00:18:48", "start": "00:18:44", "text": "shotguns everywhere, even during the"}, {"end": "00:18:51", "start": "00:18:46", "text": "day. But their weapons were barely"}, {"end": "00:18:54", "start": "00:18:48", "text": "functional. rusty barrels, some held"}, {"end": "00:18:56", "start": "00:18:51", "text": "together with wire and tape. The"}, {"end": "00:18:58", "start": "00:18:54", "text": "villagers had cut down a wide swath of"}, {"end": "00:19:00", "start": "00:18:56", "text": "jungle around their community. This was"}, {"end": "00:19:02", "start": "00:18:58", "text": "a desperate attempt to extend their line"}, {"end": "00:19:05", "start": "00:19:00", "text": "of sight against an enemy that came from"}, {"end": "00:19:07", "start": "00:19:02", "text": "the dark. The men of San Antonio de"}, {"end": "00:19:08", "start": "00:19:05", "text": "Pintiaku were brave and intelligent, but"}, {"end": "00:19:10", "start": "00:19:07", "text": "they didn't have the experience or"}, {"end": "00:19:14", "start": "00:19:08", "text": "training necessary to defend their"}, {"end": "00:19:16", "start": "00:19:10", "text": "homes. So, Doug Thornton provided it."}, {"end": "00:19:18", "start": "00:19:14", "text": "He taught the men basic patrol tactics."}, {"end": "00:19:20", "start": "00:19:16", "text": "How to move in a column, how to handle"}, {"end": "00:19:21", "start": "00:19:18", "text": "their weapons safely so they wouldn't"}, {"end": "00:19:24", "start": "00:19:20", "text": "accidentally shoot each other in the"}, {"end": "00:19:26", "start": "00:19:21", "text": "chaos of an attack. After interviewing"}, {"end": "00:19:28", "start": "00:19:24", "text": "dozens of witnesses, Alberino was"}, {"end": "00:19:30", "start": "00:19:26", "text": "convinced the villagers were telling the"}, {"end": "00:19:32", "start": "00:19:28", "text": "truth about what they saw. But he didn't"}, {"end": "00:19:35", "start": "00:19:30", "text": "believe they were seeing aliens. He"}, {"end": "00:19:37", "start": "00:19:32", "text": "believed they were facing a powerful"}, {"end": "00:19:40", "start": "00:19:35", "text": "international organization involving sex"}, {"end": "00:19:42", "start": "00:19:37", "text": "trafficking and organ harvesting. They"}, {"end": "00:19:45", "start": "00:19:40", "text": "were using advanced technology, possibly"}, {"end": "00:19:46", "start": "00:19:42", "text": "reverse engineered alien tech. An"}, {"end": "00:19:49", "start": "00:19:45", "text": "organization like that would have the"}, {"end": "00:19:52", "start": "00:19:46", "text": "means and the opportunity. But what"}, {"end": "00:19:53", "start": "00:19:49", "text": "about the motive? Well, they had that,"}, {"end": "00:19:56", "start": "00:19:52", "text": "too."}, {"end": "00:19:58", "start": "00:19:53", "text": "The motive was profit, and the method"}, {"end": "00:20:01", "start": "00:19:56", "text": "was terror, and the alien story was the"}, {"end": "00:20:03", "start": "00:19:58", "text": "perfect cover. And the people,"}, {"end": "00:20:05", "start": "00:20:01", "text": "defenseless and discredited by their"}, {"end": "00:20:08", "start": "00:20:03", "text": "government, they were the perfect"}, {"end": "00:20:18", "start": "00:20:05", "text": "victims."}, {"end": "00:20:21", "start": "00:20:08", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:20:23", "start": "00:20:18", "text": "7-ft tall hovering beings terrorize a"}, {"end": "00:20:26", "start": "00:20:21", "text": "remote village. A 500-year-old legend of"}, {"end": "00:20:28", "start": "00:20:23", "text": "face peeling monsters seems to come to"}, {"end": "00:20:30", "start": "00:20:26", "text": "life. And in the middle of it all, a"}, {"end": "00:20:32", "start": "00:20:28", "text": "secretive US military operation is"}, {"end": "00:20:34", "start": "00:20:30", "text": "active just miles away. So, let's break"}, {"end": "00:20:36", "start": "00:20:32", "text": "down what we know."}, {"end": "00:20:38", "start": "00:20:34", "text": "It's easy to see why the Peruvian"}, {"end": "00:20:42", "start": "00:20:36", "text": "government was so quick to dismiss the"}, {"end": "00:20:43", "start": "00:20:38", "text": "story. In the Na River is gold. Lots of"}, {"end": "00:20:46", "start": "00:20:42", "text": "gold. During the pandemic, the"}, {"end": "00:20:48", "start": "00:20:43", "text": "authorities disappeared. Gold prices"}, {"end": "00:20:50", "start": "00:20:46", "text": "soared and the jungle opened up."}, {"end": "00:20:52", "start": "00:20:48", "text": "Criminal networks from Brazil and"}, {"end": "00:20:54", "start": "00:20:50", "text": "Colombia moved in. They set up illegal"}, {"end": "00:20:56", "start": "00:20:52", "text": "gold mining operations that generate"}, {"end": "00:20:58", "start": "00:20:54", "text": "billions of dollars a year. But these"}, {"end": "00:21:01", "start": "00:20:56", "text": "operations use dredges and pumps and"}, {"end": "00:21:04", "start": "00:20:58", "text": "shovels, not hoverboards and lasers. If"}, {"end": "00:21:07", "start": "00:21:01", "text": "this were about gold, why attack Na, a"}, {"end": "00:21:10", "start": "00:21:04", "text": "city with no gold at all?"}, {"end": "00:21:13", "start": "00:21:07", "text": "So, were these aliens? Probably not. Why"}, {"end": "00:21:15", "start": "00:21:10", "text": "would aliens speak Spanish with an"}, {"end": "00:21:18", "start": "00:21:13", "text": "American accent? There's strong evidence"}, {"end": "00:21:20", "start": "00:21:15", "text": "Americans were involved. The training"}, {"end": "00:21:24", "start": "00:21:18", "text": "ended on July 9th. The attacks began on"}, {"end": "00:21:26", "start": "00:21:20", "text": "July 11th. The timeline is fact. Tia"}, {"end": "00:21:28", "start": "00:21:24", "text": "hearing two accents, one local, one"}, {"end": "00:21:31", "start": "00:21:26", "text": "American, points directly toward a joint"}, {"end": "00:21:34", "start": "00:21:28", "text": "operation, which it was."}, {"end": "00:21:36", "start": "00:21:31", "text": "The CIA has done plenty of evil things,"}, {"end": "00:21:39", "start": "00:21:34", "text": "but pretending to be face peelers sounds"}, {"end": "00:21:42", "start": "00:21:36", "text": "like a stretch. It isn't."}, {"end": "00:21:45", "start": "00:21:39", "text": "The CIA once faked vampire attacks as"}, {"end": "00:21:47", "start": "00:21:42", "text": "part of a counterinsurgency strategy. In"}, {"end": "00:21:49", "start": "00:21:45", "text": "the 1950s in the Philippines, a"}, {"end": "00:21:51", "start": "00:21:47", "text": "communist group called the Hooks tried"}, {"end": "00:21:53", "start": "00:21:49", "text": "to overthrow the government. The CIA"}, {"end": "00:21:56", "start": "00:21:51", "text": "brought in a psychological warfare unit"}, {"end": "00:21:58", "start": "00:21:53", "text": "to try to scare the hucks away. There"}, {"end": "00:22:01", "start": "00:21:56", "text": "was a local legend of a monster called"}, {"end": "00:22:02", "start": "00:21:58", "text": "the Aswang. The Aswang had a sharp"}, {"end": "00:22:05", "start": "00:22:01", "text": "tongue that it would use to drain the"}, {"end": "00:22:07", "start": "00:22:02", "text": "blood of its victims. So, the CIA"}, {"end": "00:22:09", "start": "00:22:05", "text": "started hunting the hooks. They"}, {"end": "00:22:11", "start": "00:22:07", "text": "kidnapped them, punctured their necks,"}, {"end": "00:22:13", "start": "00:22:09", "text": "and hung the corpses upside down to"}, {"end": "00:22:15", "start": "00:22:11", "text": "drain their blood. The plan worked"}, {"end": "00:22:17", "start": "00:22:13", "text": "better than they expected."}, {"end": "00:22:19", "start": "00:22:15", "text": "The same scops unit was deployed in"}, {"end": "00:22:22", "start": "00:22:17", "text": "Vietnam a few years later for Operation"}, {"end": "00:22:24", "start": "00:22:19", "text": "Wandering Soul. They broadcast ghostly"}, {"end": "00:22:27", "start": "00:22:22", "text": "voices and screams into the jungle at"}, {"end": "00:22:29", "start": "00:22:24", "text": "night. This was so effective that the US"}, {"end": "00:22:31", "start": "00:22:27", "text": "was instructed not to play the sounds"}, {"end": "00:22:32", "start": "00:22:29", "text": "around their local allies. They were"}, {"end": "00:22:35", "start": "00:22:31", "text": "terrified."}, {"end": "00:22:37", "start": "00:22:32", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:22:39", "start": "00:22:35", "text": "But why would the CIA go through all"}, {"end": "00:22:41", "start": "00:22:37", "text": "this trouble and take on so much risk"}, {"end": "00:22:43", "start": "00:22:39", "text": "for money? They have access to all the"}, {"end": "00:22:45", "start": "00:22:41", "text": "money they need."}, {"end": "00:22:48", "start": "00:22:43", "text": "And what about Tim Alberino's theory"}, {"end": "00:22:50", "start": "00:22:45", "text": "about a shadowy organization harvesting"}, {"end": "00:22:52", "start": "00:22:48", "text": "organs using alien technology? That's"}, {"end": "00:22:55", "start": "00:22:50", "text": "probably the best theory we have, but"}, {"end": "00:22:57", "start": "00:22:52", "text": "there's no proof to support it. But Tim"}, {"end": "00:23:00", "start": "00:22:55", "text": "went to the jungle. He spoke to the"}, {"end": "00:23:03", "start": "00:22:57", "text": "witnesses. He did prove their fear is"}, {"end": "00:23:05", "start": "00:23:00", "text": "real. The official story is a lie. We"}, {"end": "00:23:07", "start": "00:23:03", "text": "know that. Whether the attackers were"}, {"end": "00:23:09", "start": "00:23:05", "text": "minors, soldiers, traffickers, or"}, {"end": "00:23:12", "start": "00:23:07", "text": "something else, they were organized and"}, {"end": "00:23:14", "start": "00:23:09", "text": "technologically superior."}, {"end": "00:23:16", "start": "00:23:12", "text": "I don't think this is aliens. I'm pretty"}, {"end": "00:23:19", "start": "00:23:14", "text": "sure this is being done by men, evil"}, {"end": "00:23:20", "start": "00:23:16", "text": "men. And if this is happening in Peru,"}, {"end": "00:23:23", "start": "00:23:19", "text": "it's happening to defenseless people in"}, {"end": "00:23:26", "start": "00:23:20", "text": "remote villages all over the continent,"}, {"end": "00:23:28", "start": "00:23:23", "text": "maybe even beyond."}, {"end": "00:23:30", "start": "00:23:26", "text": "Advanced technology in the hands of"}, {"end": "00:23:32", "start": "00:23:28", "text": "those who profit from suffering. We've"}, {"end": "00:23:34", "start": "00:23:30", "text": "seen that all throughout history. The"}, {"end": "00:23:37", "start": "00:23:32", "text": "face peelers aren't a legend anymore."}, {"end": "00:23:39", "start": "00:23:34", "text": "They're an industry and business is"}, {"end": "00:23:43", "start": "00:23:37", "text": "booming."}, {"end": "00:23:43", "start": "00:23:39", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:23:48", "start": "00:23:45", "text": "Thank you so much for hanging out with"}, {"end": "00:23:50", "start": "00:23:47", "text": "me today. My name is AJ and this has"}, {"end": "00:23:52", "start": "00:23:48", "text": "been a Wi-Fi stripped episode. If you"}, {"end": "00:23:54", "start": "00:23:50", "text": "had fun or learned anything, do us a"}, {"end": "00:23:57", "start": "00:23:52", "text": "favor, hit the like, subscribe, comment,"}, {"end": "00:24:00", "start": "00:23:54", "text": "and share buttons. That stuff that stuff"}, {"end": "00:24:02", "start": "00:23:57", "text": "used to help the channel. I hope it"}, {"end": "00:24:03", "start": "00:24:00", "text": "still does. And like most topics we"}, {"end": "00:24:04", "start": "00:24:02", "text": "cover on the channel, today's was"}, {"end": "00:24:06", "start": "00:24:03", "text": "recommended by you. So if there's a"}, {"end": "00:24:08", "start": "00:24:04", "text": "story you'd like to see or learn more"}, {"end": "00:24:11", "start": "00:24:06", "text": "about, go to wfiles.com/tips."}, {"end": "00:24:13", "start": "00:24:08", "text": "And I'm sorry if I was late on this one."}, {"end": "00:24:16", "start": "00:24:11", "text": "I kind of avoided it because it seemed"}, {"end": "00:24:18", "start": "00:24:13", "text": "kind of grizzly, but a lot of you asked"}, {"end": "00:24:20", "start": "00:24:16", "text": "for it and Tim Alberino has been making"}, {"end": "00:24:23", "start": "00:24:18", "text": "it around. So maybe this is relevant"}, {"end": "00:24:25", "start": "00:24:20", "text": "again. Something is definitely going on"}, {"end": "00:24:26", "start": "00:24:23", "text": "down in the Amazon. As recently as a few"}, {"end": "00:24:29", "start": "00:24:25", "text": "weeks ago, there are some strange"}, {"end": "00:24:32", "start": "00:24:26", "text": "activities and there's"}, {"end": "00:24:35", "start": "00:24:29", "text": "local authorities are almost at war with"}, {"end": "00:24:37", "start": "00:24:32", "text": "the illegal gold miners. It's"}, {"end": "00:24:39", "start": "00:24:35", "text": "something's up. Remember, the W Files is"}, {"end": "00:24:41", "start": "00:24:37", "text": "also a podcast. Twice a week, I post"}, {"end": "00:24:43", "start": "00:24:39", "text": "deep dives into the stories we cover"}, {"end": "00:24:45", "start": "00:24:41", "text": "here on the channel, and sometimes I"}, {"end": "00:24:46", "start": "00:24:43", "text": "post episodes that wouldn't be allowed"}, {"end": "00:24:49", "start": "00:24:45", "text": "on the channel. You'll know those"}, {"end": "00:24:51", "start": "00:24:46", "text": "because they're labeled redacted."}, {"end": "00:24:53", "start": "00:24:49", "text": "Anyway, the podcast is called the W"}, {"end": "00:24:55", "start": "00:24:51", "text": "House Operation Podcast, and it's"}, {"end": "00:24:58", "start": "00:24:53", "text": "available everywhere. And if you're"}, {"end": "00:25:01", "start": "00:24:55", "text": "listening on an audio platform, hit the"}, {"end": "00:25:03", "start": "00:24:58", "text": "thumbs or the stars or the just click"}, {"end": "00:25:05", "start": "00:25:01", "text": "something nice for us. That stuff that"}, {"end": "00:25:06", "start": "00:25:03", "text": "stuff still helps. If you need more W"}, {"end": "00:25:08", "start": "00:25:05", "text": "files in your life, check out our"}, {"end": "00:25:10", "start": "00:25:06", "text": "Discord. There are thousands of people"}, {"end": "00:25:12", "start": "00:25:08", "text": "on there 24/7. They're talking about the"}, {"end": "00:25:14", "start": "00:25:10", "text": "same weird stuff we talk about here."}, {"end": "00:25:16", "start": "00:25:12", "text": "It's a great community. It's a lot of"}, {"end": "00:25:18", "start": "00:25:14", "text": "fun and it's free to join. Also, if"}, {"end": "00:25:20", "start": "00:25:16", "text": "you're jonesing for W Files in the"}, {"end": "00:25:23", "start": "00:25:18", "text": "middle of the night, we have the 24/7"}, {"end": "00:25:25", "start": "00:25:20", "text": "stream running on the W Files backstage."}, {"end": "00:25:26", "start": "00:25:23", "text": "It's linked below, but if you just"}, {"end": "00:25:30", "start": "00:25:25", "text": "search for the Wiles Backstage, you'll"}, {"end": "00:25:32", "start": "00:25:26", "text": "find it. And that's fun and different to"}, {"end": "00:25:34", "start": "00:25:30", "text": "watch. It's the episodes back to back to"}, {"end": "00:25:37", "start": "00:25:32", "text": "back, but in between there's funny bits"}, {"end": "00:25:38", "start": "00:25:34", "text": "and hecklefish jokes and all kinds of"}, {"end": "00:25:39", "start": "00:25:37", "text": "weird stuff. I think you'd enjoy it. If"}, {"end": "00:25:41", "start": "00:25:38", "text": "you want to know what's going on with"}, {"end": "00:25:43", "start": "00:25:39", "text": "the W files at any given time, check out"}, {"end": "00:25:44", "start": "00:25:41", "text": "our production calendar. It's at the"}, {"end": "00:25:46", "start": "00:25:43", "text": "wfiles.com/cow."}, {"end": "00:25:48", "start": "00:25:44", "text": "There we post our episode schedule,"}, {"end": "00:25:50", "start": "00:25:46", "text": "upcoming podcasts, live streams,"}, {"end": "00:25:52", "start": "00:25:48", "text": "everything. Special thanks to our"}, {"end": "00:25:54", "start": "00:25:50", "text": "patrons who made this channel possible."}, {"end": "00:25:55", "start": "00:25:52", "text": "Every episode of the W Files is"}, {"end": "00:25:57", "start": "00:25:54", "text": "dedicated to our Patreon members. I"}, {"end": "00:25:59", "start": "00:25:55", "text": "couldn't do any of this without you. And"}, {"end": "00:26:01", "start": "00:25:57", "text": "if you'd like to support the channel,"}, {"end": "00:26:02", "start": "00:25:59", "text": "keep us going, join this incredible"}, {"end": "00:26:04", "start": "00:26:01", "text": "community, consider becoming a member on"}, {"end": "00:26:06", "start": "00:26:02", "text": "Patreon. For as little as three bucks a"}, {"end": "00:26:08", "start": "00:26:04", "text": "month, you get access to perks like"}, {"end": "00:26:10", "start": "00:26:06", "text": "videos early with no commercials,"}, {"end": "00:26:13", "start": "00:26:08", "text": "exclusive merch, and two private live"}, {"end": "00:26:14", "start": "00:26:10", "text": "streams every week just for members. And"}, {"end": "00:26:16", "start": "00:26:13", "text": "you get to meet the whole team. All of"}, {"end": "00:26:18", "start": "00:26:14", "text": "our cameras are on. You can turn your"}, {"end": "00:26:20", "start": "00:26:16", "text": "camera on, come up on stage, ask a"}, {"end": "00:26:22", "start": "00:26:18", "text": "question if you want a deeper dive into"}, {"end": "00:26:25", "start": "00:26:20", "text": "a topic or recommend a topic, tell a"}, {"end": "00:26:26", "start": "00:26:22", "text": "joke, or just chat. I think it's a great"}, {"end": "00:26:28", "start": "00:26:25", "text": "way to get to know us as people. It's"}, {"end": "00:26:30", "start": "00:26:26", "text": "probably the best perk there is. Another"}, {"end": "00:26:32", "start": "00:26:28", "text": "great way to support the channel is grab"}, {"end": "00:26:33", "start": "00:26:30", "text": "something from the Wfile store. But if"}, {"end": "00:26:35", "start": "00:26:32", "text": "you're going to buy merch, make sure you"}, {"end": "00:26:37", "start": "00:26:33", "text": "become a member on YouTube. I know,"}, {"end": "00:26:39", "start": "00:26:35", "text": "another membership, but hear me out."}, {"end": "00:26:41", "start": "00:26:37", "text": "YouTube members get 10% off everything"}, {"end": "00:26:44", "start": "00:26:39", "text": "in the Wow store. You get a new code"}, {"end": "00:26:45", "start": "00:26:41", "text": "every month, and it only costs three"}, {"end": "00:26:47", "start": "00:26:44", "text": "bucks. So, if you're going to spend $40"}, {"end": "00:26:50", "start": "00:26:45", "text": "on t-shirts, become a member, get the"}, {"end": "00:26:51", "start": "00:26:47", "text": "code, and it pays for itself. And look,"}, {"end": "00:26:53", "start": "00:26:50", "text": "if you want to cancel after one month,"}, {"end": "00:26:55", "start": "00:26:51", "text": "that's totally fine. The membership is"}, {"end": "00:26:57", "start": "00:26:53", "text": "not there to make me money. It's there"}, {"end": "00:26:59", "start": "00:26:55", "text": "to save you money. And besides, any"}, {"end": "00:27:01", "start": "00:26:57", "text": "money generated from memberships goes"}, {"end": "00:27:04", "start": "00:26:59", "text": "directly to my team. Those are the"}, {"end": "00:27:05", "start": "00:27:01", "text": "plugs. And I even snuck a new one in"}, {"end": "00:27:08", "start": "00:27:04", "text": "there. So, that's going to do it. Until"}, {"end": "00:27:13", "start": "00:27:05", "text": "next time, be safe, be kind, and know"}, {"end": "00:27:13", "start": "00:27:08", "text": "that you are appreciated."}, {"end": "00:27:24", "start": "00:27:17", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:27:27", "start": "00:27:22", "text": "Oh"}, {"end": "00:27:32", "start": "00:27:24", "text": "yeah,"}, {"end": "00:27:36", "start": "00:27:27", "text": "I play in area 51. A secret code inside"}, {"end": "00:27:40", "start": "00:27:32", "text": "the Bible said I would."}, {"end": "00:27:45", "start": "00:27:36", "text": "I love my UFOs and paranormal fun as"}, {"end": "00:27:48", "start": "00:27:40", "text": "well as music hanging like I should."}, {"end": "00:27:51", "start": "00:27:45", "text": "But then another conspiracy theory"}, {"end": "00:27:54", "start": "00:27:48", "text": "becomes the truth, my friend. ends and"}, {"end": "00:27:56", "start": "00:27:51", "text": "it never ends."}, {"end": "00:28:03", "start": "00:27:54", "text": "No, it never ends."}, {"end": "00:28:03", "start": "00:27:56", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:28:10", "start": "00:28:04", "text": "I feel the crap. I got stuck inside"}, {"end": "00:28:13", "start": "00:28:07", "text": "Mel's home with MKL truck. I feel only"}, {"end": "00:28:13", "start": "00:28:10", "text": "twoear."}, {"end": "00:28:20", "start": "00:28:14", "text": "Did Stanley Cubric fake the moon landing"}, {"end": "00:28:23", "start": "00:28:16", "text": "alone on a film set? I would shadow"}, {"end": "00:28:26", "start": "00:28:20", "text": "people there."}, {"end": "00:28:29", "start": "00:28:23", "text": "The Roswell aliens just fought the"}, {"end": "00:28:32", "start": "00:28:26", "text": "smiling man. I'm told"}, {"end": "00:28:36", "start": "00:28:29", "text": "and his name was cold and I can't"}, {"end": "00:28:41", "start": "00:28:32", "text": "believe I'm dancing with the fish"}, {"end": "00:28:44", "start": "00:28:36", "text": "on Thursday night My family all"}, {"end": "00:28:44", "start": "00:28:41", "text": "through the night."}, {"end": "00:28:50", "start": "00:28:45", "text": "All I ever wanted was to hear the truth"}, {"end": "00:28:54", "start": "00:28:48", "text": "of the world"}, {"end": "00:28:54", "start": "00:28:50", "text": "through the night."}, {"end": "00:29:12", "start": "00:28:54", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:29:16", "start": "00:29:10", "text": "The math man sightings and the solar"}, {"end": "00:29:19", "start": "00:29:12", "text": "storm still come to the secret city"}, {"end": "00:29:19", "start": "00:29:16", "text": "underground."}, {"end": "00:29:26", "start": "00:29:20", "text": "Mysterious number stations planet circle"}, {"end": "00:29:29", "start": "00:29:23", "text": "to project stargate and what the dark"}, {"end": "00:29:33", "start": "00:29:26", "text": "watchers found"}, {"end": "00:29:37", "start": "00:29:29", "text": "in a simulation. Don't you worry though."}, {"end": "00:29:42", "start": "00:29:33", "text": "The black nights had a light to me. So I"}, {"end": "00:29:47", "start": "00:29:37", "text": "can't believe I'm dancing with the fish"}, {"end": "00:29:47", "start": "00:29:42", "text": "on Thursday night when they choose"}, {"end": "00:29:53", "start": "00:29:50", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:30:00", "start": "00:29:54", "text": "to me all through the night."}, {"end": "00:30:09", "start": "00:30:02", "text": "That's when they change you and me all"}, {"end": "00:30:09", "start": "00:30:06", "text": "through life."}, {"end": "00:30:16", "start": "00:30:10", "text": "All I ever wanted was to be the truth."}, {"end": "00:30:33", "start": "00:30:26", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:30:37", "start": "00:30:30", "text": "loves to dance."}, {"end": "00:30:41", "start": "00:30:33", "text": "Girl loves to dance on the dance floor"}, {"end": "00:30:47", "start": "00:30:37", "text": "because she is a camel. Camel to dance"}, {"end": "00:30:57", "start": "00:30:41", "text": "when the feeling is wasting time."}, {"end": "00:30:57", "start": "00:30:47", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:31:05", "start": "00:31:00", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "The secrecy is clearly related to that."}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "Nothing else. It's all about power. 90%"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "of everything on this subject, it's this"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "information. We have over 450 military"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "and intelligence witnesses. The"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "president was concerned he would end up"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "like Jack Kennedy. Big media does not"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "report the truth about these things"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "because they are not free to. This is"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "the biggest secret in the history of the"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "human race. They move at enormous"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "speeds. For example, they've been"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "tracked at going tens of thousands of"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "miles per hour in the atmosphere and"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "make a right-hand turn without"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "decelerating. There are seriously"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "important technologies that would give"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "us an entirely new sustainable"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "civilization that are being kept secret"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "because"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "in the history of the human race and"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "particularly in the history of modern"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "government, there's nothing that has"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "been kept more tightly controlled and"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "more secret. And the secrecy has invaded"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "like a cancer many institutions"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "including the media, government"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "corporation. I have personally briefed"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "members of the Senate Intelligence"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "Committee, members of the Joint Staff,"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "uh the head of intelligence for the"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "Joint Chiefs of Staff, the United"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "States, the head of the Ministry of"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "Defense in Great Britain, our CIA"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "director under Clinton. And what I found"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "was that most of the people in"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "government that you and I would normally"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "think would know about these sort of"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "clandestine issues were being lied to or"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "kept out of the the loop. And so that"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "there's this rogue, very well-funded,"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "transnational group that's highly"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "corporatized, privatized that is running"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "this. It is not. When people say the"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "government's keeping this secret, I said"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "the government knows very little. The"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "government of we the people. There are"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "few people in the government who know"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "and those control points are lying to"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "their colleagues. For example, there are"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "few people in the me in Congress and"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "Senate who know about this, but they do"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "not tell their colleagues. And so it's"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "it's a very dangerous project uh in the"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "sense that it has subverted the US"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "constitution. The British uh rule of law"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "if you go all over the world sort of"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "highly organized group that is running"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "projects related to UFOs and they're"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "quite developed are operating outside"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "the rule of law of any country and that"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "is dangerous because they're sitting on"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "information and more importantly"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "technologies. One of the things we found"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "for example is that beginning in the 30s"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "and 40s and certainly by the 50s we were"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "studying the modus operandi I'm quoting"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "from a top secret Canadian document the"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "Wilbur Smith document from 1951 which"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "I'm sure you've seen has this statement"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "that by that time there was a high"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "profile group headed by Dr. for Vanavar"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "Bush who headed up the Manhattan project"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "to look into uh how these things were"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "operating and by the mid to late 50s we"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "had figured out the energy and"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "propulsion systems behind so-called"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "anti-gravity extracting energy from the"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "fabric of space so you don't have a fuel"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "to carry and that once they realized"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "what this was and that it would be a"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "threat to the big corporate kleptocracy"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "that runs the world big oil fossil fuels"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "centralized utilities centralized based"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "economies that they put the lid on this"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "and took it out of the supervision even"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "of the US president and most members of"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "Congress and the British Prime Minister"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "and etc and so on. Most high officials"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "in the Pentagon know very little about"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "this subject cuz I have been the person"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "to brief them and the ones who do know"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "are part of this conspiracy of silence"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "for lack of a better word to cooperate"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "to keep this stuff very secret. The"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "secrecy isn't because people are afraid"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "that they're going to find out that"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "there's life in the universe. It's"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "because if it's confirmed that these"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "UFOs are real, and they are, with it"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "will become an immediate question by the"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "scientific community. Well, how are they"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "operating? And when that gets asked, we"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "have people who can answer it. And when"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "that gets answered, it's the end of big"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "oil. It's the end of coal. It's the end"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "of centralized electric utilities. And"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "it's a the biggest change in the global"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "macroeconomic order since the industrial"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "revolution of the mid 1800s. That's what"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "we're dealing with. The secrecy is"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "clearly related to that, nothing else."}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "It's all about power and geopolitical"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "power and centralized power. A lot of"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "people don't realize there's about 250"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "integrated corporations and individuals"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "in the world that control virtually all"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "of the of the world economy and they're"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "all interrelated. They're vertically and"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "horizontally integrated. And their"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "interests in this are profound. I"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "remember Lawrence Rockefeller when I was"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "out at his ranch and of course he had"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "hosted President Clinton and his wife"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "Hillary Clinton uh for a couple years"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "during their vacations in August of"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "during his presidency and they were out"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "there actually because we were doing"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "briefings. I was putting together big"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "briefing documents and and Lawrence"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "Rockefeller was sort of a mediator"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "providing information to them and you"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "know I was at his uh ranch out in the"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "Tetons once and he turned to me he said"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "Dr. Ger, you know, no aspect of life on"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "Earth will be untouched by this"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "information coming out so vast and so"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "profound are the implications. I said, I"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "know, Mr. Rockefeller, that's why it's"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "been kept secret. It's not because it's"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "a silly thing. Now, what the"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "controllers, the disinformation"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "controllers want the public to believe"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "is that it's about silly stuff like, oh,"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "you know, an alien took me on board a"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "spaceship and I have a baby floating in"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "an incubator around Alpha Centauri. what"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "I call the silly season of all this. And"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "that disinformation is put out there"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "through the UFO subculture, through the"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "media, through documentary makers,"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "through filmmakers who don't know the"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "difference between information and"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "disinformation. 90% of everything on"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "this subject is disinformation designed"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "to do two things. either engender fear"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "because it's very frightening"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "information which shuts people down or"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "to make it look silly and absurd so that"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "serious scientists, policy makers,"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "intellectuals and academics Jew will"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "just dismiss it out of hand. And it's"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "been done consistently since the 40s and"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "50s. And I have documents that prove"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "that this is the case. I have a CIA"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "document stating this is in the 1950s"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "that this is a subject for the use of"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "psychological warfare techniques and"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "sciops scops and that is true and so it"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "it's something where the public for the"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "most part is greatly disinformed"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "deliberately you know not just"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "misinformed but disinformed. What the"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "disclosure project is trying to do is by"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "referring to people who've had firsthand"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "involvement with these projects plus our"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "own firsthand research, real-time"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "research, is to put together the"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "assessments of what's going on. And we"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "feel this is important to share that"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "with the president or members of the"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "Senate Intelligence Committee as it is"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "with the general public because contrary"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "to what the public would think on"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "something this sensitive, most people in"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "government, even high officials in"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "government, if they even know this could"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "be true, if they make an inquiry about"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "it, this happened to President Carter."}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "It happened to President Clinton. It's"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "happened to many high officials. They"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "are basically told, \"We're not going to"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "tell you.\" Sometimes they'll just be"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "denied that it exists at all, but"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "sometimes they will flat out say, \"We're"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "not going to tell you.\" Give you an"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "example. In the late 1990s, after I had"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "briefed U members of Congress on this"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "problem, I was invited to do a standup"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "briefing at the Pentagon for the head of"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "intelligence for the Joint Chiefs of"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "Staff. It's called J2. And this admiral,"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "I had provided and in our book"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "disclosure, which you can get at the"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "website disclosurepro.org, for we have a"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "document that actually is from the '90s,"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "early '90s that lists code names and"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "project names and code numbers that were"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "authentic and legitimate as of that time"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "dealing with this issue. I gave this to"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "the admiral's point of contact to us. He"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "looked into it. He actually found one of"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "those compartmented secret cells in the"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "Pentagon. He called them and said, \"I"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "want to be read into or briefed on this"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "project.\" And they said, \"Sir, you don't"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "have a need to know. This is the head of"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "intelligence for the joint chiefs of"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "staff. I mean, we're not talking about"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "some low-level munchkin out here. Now,"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "what that means is that you have a"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "complete decapitation of the"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "constitutional leadership. And it also"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "means that it's very important for us to"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "try to identify intelligent sources who"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "are courageous enough to come forward"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "and speak the truth and put that"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "information out to the public because I"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "think nothing less than the future of"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "planet Earth is hanging in the balance."}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "And we're not talking just about whether"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "or not people know there are UFOs. We're"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "talking about what are we going to do"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "about the fact that we we're about to"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "reach peak oil. What are we going to do"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "with the fact that we have global"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "warming and both polar ice caps are"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "melting? What are we going to do about"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "the fact that there is this increasing"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "concentration of wealth in a few hands"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "but increasing poverty around the world"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "that's engendering terrorism and hatred"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "and conflict. All these are trend lines"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "that can be corrected by this"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "information and these technologies"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "coming out. Not just information. It's"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "about the fact that there are seriously"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "important technologies that would give"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "us an entirely new sustainable"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "civilization that are being kept secret"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "because letting them out makes redundant"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "and obsolete. Closure project is a"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "worldwide effort to identify military"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "and government and some corporate"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "insiders who've had personal knowledge"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "extraterrestrial UFO or advanced"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "propulsion related systems that have"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "been kept secret for at least 50 or 60"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "years. The disclosure projects oriented"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "towards putting together credible"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "government documents and these witnesses"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "so that there is an undeniable case made"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "that this is real and not fictitious. It"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "started really in 19 early 1990s and"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "after I had briefed the President"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "Clinton's first CIA director on this"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "problem. It was made very clear to me"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "that the executive branch of the US"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "government did not want to do this"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "because I'm quoting the president was"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "concerned he would end up like Jack"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "Kennedy. I'm not kidding. That was said"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "to me by President Clinton's closest"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "friend. So what we decided to do was to"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "take this on ourselves and initially put"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "this information in the hands of members"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "of Congress to see if they would hold"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "open hearings. And when they chose not"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "to by 98, we decided to do this"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "ourselves. And so the disclosure project"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "was an outgrowth of our identifying the"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "intelligence sources and the evidence"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "and then putting it through the system"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "of government to give the government of"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "we the people the opportunity to do the"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "right thing and end all the illegal"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "secrecy and bring this information out."}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "uh since they did not have the courage"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "to do so in 2001 about four years ago we"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "decided to go ahead and do that"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "ourselves and that and since then we"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "have been putting this information out"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "in the public domain now our websites"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "had over 10 million people on it we have"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "a disclosure project video that was the"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "national press club event that's been"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "seen by nearly 3 million people which is"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "quite a large number um and we just"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "continue to put that information out uh"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "and uh through venues like this and and"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "and speaking and what have you still"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "would like to see the Congress take this"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "on. But I think given the current"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "governmental content for secrecy and"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "supporting corporate illegal projects,"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "it's unlikely that's going to happen. So"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "I think it's really going to be in our"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "laps. We the people are going to have to"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "tell the truth. And so the disclosure"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "project is a nonprofit effort to"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "assemble the best possible witnesses and"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "the best available evidence and put it"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "out to the public and also to our"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "leaders. We know people can see a lot of"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "this at disclosurepro.org or which is"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "our website and we have over 450"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "military and and intelligence witnesses."}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "Some are they range from generals and"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "brigadier generals to air traffic"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "controllers and strategic air command"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "personnel in the air force to civilian"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "people in the FAA the Federal Aviation"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "Administration to astronauts and"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "cosminauts and it's an enormous uh"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "database of of people who have uplo and"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "personally seen UFOs or worked in those"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "projects in their capacity as a"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "government uh or military person and"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "many of them most of them had top seat"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "secret uh clearances some of them highly"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "compartmented and their information is"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "really dispositive. We have enormous uh"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "documentation that is corroborated by"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "multiple people. For example, when I"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "said let's see what the strategic air"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "command and what the interest has been"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "in these extraterrestrial vehicles for"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "nuclear seeing what we're doing with"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "nuclear weapons. We decided not to"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "identify one or two, but we have like a"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "couple dozen of those people who were in"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "strategic air command, who were in in"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "nuclear facilities, who were in the old"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "atomic energy commission like Colonel"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "Dedrickson that we have as a witness,"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "who had personal knowledge of the fact"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "that even though there's clearly no"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "evidence, and I want to emphasize this,"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "that these extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "civilizations are hostile towards us, I"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "think they're very worried about our"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "hostility. I always turn this on its"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "head because most of these sort of"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "documentaries always alien invasion and"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "all this stuff. No, no, no, no, no, no."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "The issue is that, you know, if they"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "were hostile, we would know it by now."}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "It's clear to me that what's going on is"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "that they're very concerned that at the"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "time that humanity reached the ability"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "to go into space,"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "early space exploration 50s, we also had"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "already developed weapons of mass"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "destruction and thermonuclear and"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "hydrogen bombs and stuff and that that"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "the co coincidence of that coming"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "together those two things put a big red"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "flag over Earth. And so if you look at"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "the databases from the ' 50s, '60s,7s on"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "forward, not only in the United States,"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "but in Great Britain, in um Soviet"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "Union, in China, that wherever we had"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "space, aerospace, and nuclear"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "facilities, there were a lot of these"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "so-called UFOs being seen. And it makes"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "sense because it it's a very short"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "distance from where we are now to being"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "able to go further out into space with"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "these kinds of aggressive tendencies."}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "And one of the things I point out to"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "people is that our social and spiritual"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "development appears to have uh lagged"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "behind our technological prowess and our"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "technological capacities are actually at"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "this point a threat to perhaps the"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "cosmic order if you will a term called"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "fast walkers that's been used uh from"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "people who have been at NORAD uh that"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "have tracked these objects in near earth"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "space. Actually, that term was used in"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "the 60s and 70s. The National Security"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "Agency actually for a long time had"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "called these ETVs, extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "vehicles. Um, the word UFO is actually a"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "disinformation term that was invented"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "after they knew that they weren't"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "unidentified and they knew they didn't"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "fly. So, it's sort of a a mind play. The"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "fast walkers are these very rapid moving"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "um electrogravitic and anti-gravity"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "discs and shape craft of various shapes"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "that are tracked on classified tracking"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "systems both in our deep space network"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "and also in the atmosphere. Uh we have"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "more than one witness who have been"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "involved in the uh tracking of these"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "objects on radar. You know many people"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "say well look if this stuff was real why"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "are there no radar reports? I said we"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "have them. We actually have the radar"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "tapes from the FAA. So we have people"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "from the FAA and from the military who"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "have tracked these objects and they've"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "been called fast walkers because as"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "opposed to slow walkers which are"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "satellites because they move at enormous"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "speeds. For example, they've been"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "tracked at going tens of thousands of"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "miles per hour in the atmosphere and"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "make a right-hand turn without"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "decelerating. Well, you can't do that"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "with a conventional system. you have to"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "correct for gravity and mass inertia and"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "that's what these things are doing. So"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "these have been tracked on uh dedicated"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "and classified radar systems."}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "Occasionally people who are on an"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "ordinary system will pick them up if"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "they really want to find out. I think"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "they need to look at these firsthand top"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "secret witnesses and what they've seen."}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "I think that if you go to the civilians"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "it's a whole gsh of misinformation,"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "disinformation and amateur hour. What"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "we've tried to do is professionalize the"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "effort. And people really need to look."}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "I mean, if somebody who had the"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "clearance to carry nuclear weapons or"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "launched nuclear weapons, saw these"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "objects over a nuclear facility and"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "reported it and have documents to prove"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "it happened. This is dispositive. That's"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "what someone who is wanting to look into"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "this, who says, \"Well, could this really"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "be true and I don't know about it?\" They"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "need to look at that. And we've"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "assembled it. We have a 600page book of"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "top secret documents and the transcripts"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "of these witnesses. We have videotapes."}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "We have a 4-hour tape, we have a 2-hour"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "tape, we have a 1-hour tape. Uh, and our"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "website, disclosurepro.org, actually has"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "a lot of this information and the and"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "the testimony on there. I think that's"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "what people need to look at, and it's"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "the weight of the evidence. But if you"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "wanted to look at uh one case, for"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "example, that would be dispositive, look"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "at what uh this the third highest"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "ranking member of the FAA, John"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "Callahan, brought to us. This man during"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "the Reagan years was in charge of"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "accidents and investigations for the FAA"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "in the United States, Federal Aviation"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "Administration. He was called into a"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "case, which is the Japan Airlines case"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "over Alaska, where a a extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "vehicle the size of a huge ship was"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "being tracked on military radar,"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "civilian radar, and on board a 747's"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "onboard radar for a prolonged period of"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "time. This was given back to him. He did"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "an analysis of the data. He determined"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "that it was a real structured object"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "moving at enormous and unusual"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "velocities. In fact, it would be one"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "point in the sky and then instantly"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "would be in another place 40 50 mi away."}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "And this thing was the size of he said"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "of a destroyer, a battleship, big, huge."}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "It wasn't like 30 ft around. It was"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "hundreds of feet. This was seen by the"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "pilot. We have the pilot's report. We"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "have the original radar tapes and the"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "digital reports. this thick of a report."}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "He was called in to do a briefing for"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "Ronald Reagan science adviser, people"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "from the CIA and FBI. At the end of that"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "meeting, they turned to him and they"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "said, \"You were not at this meeting."}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "This event didn't happen and we're"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "confiscating all this stuff.\" What they"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "didn't know is that they confiscated"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "duplicates. He kept the originals and"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "when he retired, he gave them to us."}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "This man's name is John Callahan. We"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "have his name, address, a phone number."}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "We have all this evidence. That's one"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "case. So, I mean, and it's this"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "positive. And the question is if you"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "have one case like that it proves it."}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "But we have hundreds of cases like that."}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "So I would say to people look at the"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "evidence. The evidence is there. Now the"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "big question is why doesn't the masses"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "of people know about it? The only"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "institution that is more corrupt than"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "what I'm describing as this rogue"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "transnational kletocracy is the major"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "media. more worse than the Congress,"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "worse than the White House, worse than"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "anything at the normal level of"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "clearances at the Pentagon is big media."}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "Big media does not report the truth"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "about these things because they are not"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "free to. And we think in the United"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "States and in the Western world, we"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "really have a free press. We have a free"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "press on everything that's not"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "important. On the really important"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "issues, it's very controlled. And this"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "is the most important issue. This is the"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "biggest secret in the history of the"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "human rights, the known modern history"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "of government. and uh they have"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "cooperated with keeping this secret. ABC"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "News and other m major networks were at"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "the disclosure project national press"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "club event about 4 years ago. The"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "executive producer for ABC News told me"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "they wanted to do a very big expose on"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "this through prime time live or 2020. I"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "said we'll give you everything. So we"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "gave him literally, you know, the the"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "sort of uh distilled 35 hours of digital"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "videotape of these witnesses and all our"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "documents uh so he could do this and"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "cart blunt access to all these top"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "secret witnesses. He called me a couple"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "weeks later and said, \"Well, they won't"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "let me do this.\" I said, \"Who's they?\""}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "He says, \"Well, Dr. Greer, you know who"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "they are.\" And so the people the"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "corporate bosses who answer to some of"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "these transnational financial and other"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "interests were basically killed the"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "project. Uh we've seen this happen over"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "and over again. And so you can get a"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "certain amount of information out"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "through the large media but it's very"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "superficial and very brief. That's what"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "we found. The indepth sort of disclosure"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "of what's really going on, who's behind"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "it, what the agenda is, that is almost"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "always stopped or if they try to do it,"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "it gets turned into something"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "ridiculous. So my point is is that the"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "media people the rank and file are often"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "very interested but then from somewhere"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "deeper and higher than they are it gets"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "killed if they try to do anything in"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "depth. So that's what we have found and"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "so the in-depth information I think we"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "have to put out through the internet uh"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "through other documentaries and through"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "other means. Uh maybe eventually there"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "will be a media interest that is large"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "media that will do a true expose of"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "this. We stand ready to work with anyone"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "who's willing to do that. We all have a"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "responsibility to find out what the"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "truth is about something like this. And"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "it is people have to take responsibility"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "for looking into what the truth is."}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "We've put together the means for people"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "to do that. Now people have to take the"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "initiative and we need all the help we"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "can get. I would ask people to help us"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "network this to anyone and any"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "institution that can help. The reason"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "this is so critical is that we've"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "reached a point in our civilization"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "where for us to go forward as a people."}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "We're going to have to end this kind of"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "illegal secrecy and we're going to have"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "to allow this information and these"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "technologies to get out begin to fix"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "many of these large problems. The"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "question of UFOs and extraterrestrials"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "most people just think is something"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "entertaining. In reality, it's something"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "that is central to how we're going to be"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "able to go forward as a civilization"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "because that issue involves sciences,"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "technologies, energy, and propulsion"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "systems that could give us a whole new"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "civilization. Imagine being able to run"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "your house or your car or your business"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "from an energy source that is"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "non-polluting,"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "doesn't connect to a central grid, does"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "not use fossil fuels or nuclear power,"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "and it's extracting energy from what's"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "called the space around us, the quantum"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "vacuum space. That's what these"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "technologies do. We the taxpayers have"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "through our government and what's called"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "the black budget. It's about hundred"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "billion dollars a year put money that"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "have gone into corporations like"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "Lockheed, Northrup, SIC, EGNG, Rathon"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "and E Systems. Okay. Atlantic Research"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "Corporation and those entities have"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "these technologies. It's time for us to"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "say we would like to have a dividend on"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "that investment and this information"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "belongs to the people. The technologies"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "belong to the people and the earth and"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "all of humanity needs to have these"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "technologies for peaceful energy"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "generation."}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "If you enjoyed this video, make sure to"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "check out the next one right here on the"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "best of Dr. Steven Greer."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:01", "text": "They couldn't believe that we would"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "shoot at something potentially millions"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "of years more advanced than us. Why are"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "we shooting at UFOs?"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "This lack of information could has also"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "resulted in some disastrous situations"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "where we have fired on peaceful ET"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "craft."}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "You just released kind of jaw-dropping"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "information about the Bugosphere. I"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "don't know how excited I should be. Um,"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "basically I'm going to summarize and"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "please take it from there and give the"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "audience the details they need to know."}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "There's a very clear distinction between"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "a a man-made UFO and how it can respond"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "versus an interstellar one. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "going to go through this in the"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "guosphere in November so that people"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "understand when they have a encounter or"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "sighting, how do you distinguish between"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "it feels that way as a lay person who"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "doesn't have the connections you do that"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "things are happening, but I'm only"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "seeing it through the lens of I'm going"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "to talk to you. It's awesome. or through"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "Congress because that stuff still seems"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "significant to most people, but they're"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "going to be blown away when they realize"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "how far, how deep, how dark these"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "programs go. Well, some of the members"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "of Congress have been read on by my team"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "about that. um and by me um and you know"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "about four years ago a senior folks with"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "Senate Intelligence reached out to me"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "and I was in the skiff secure"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "compartment information facility and"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "provided every and they said what do you"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "have I said my network disclosure"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "project has everything remember we've"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "been gathering this sort of intelligence"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "since the early '9s um so it's a very"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "long process now some of some of the"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "whistleblowers have died, but we have"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "their evidence and we have their"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "testimony. Uh, interestingly, if you go"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "into our archive, you'll see there's"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "something like 115 or 120 whistleblowers"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "named with their credentials and the"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "audio and video as well as transcripts,"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "but it's sitting right there for"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "everyone who's listening to see, but no"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "one bothers to look. So, you know, one"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "of the big tasks I have is taking"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "multiple terabytes of data and"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "distilling it into like we just came out"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "with a the latest version of the"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "presidential briefing document for the"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "first time I published it. If you go to"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "my site uh drstephvengreer.com"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "you will see that you can get"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "a lightly redacted I mean some of it's"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "redacted uh briefing documents that's"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "been provided to the white house and"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "president but also the congress um and"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "if you go into our archive you'll see a"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "lot of the the vast amount of"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "information that resulted in that but"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "that's only 340 or 50 pages and when you"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "get to an executive level like you know"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "we're dealing with the cabinet level"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "person or the president, you got to have"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "it on one sheet of paper. So, you have"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "to take 20 20 terabytes of stuff and put"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "it on one sheet. So, that's what I I've"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "been doing this all the way back to"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "President Clinton. But now, things are"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "happening so quickly that u there"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "there's strong interest in many many"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "quarters and and also I will say it's"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "also nonpartisan because everything"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "we've done has always been nonpartisan."}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "uh we you know and also I want to point"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "out to Americans who are listening the"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "world's a big place right so we have"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "outreach and and are doing things with"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "countries Canada Australia the European"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "Union elsewhere because and the Vatican"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "because ultimately when all this comes"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "out I've written a sample speech"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "you you can find it in archive for"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "leaders in the world of how they speak"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "about this without panicking the world"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "into some ridiculous alien invasion week"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "on the History Channel. You know that"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "all that. So, you know, the thing is if"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "this is just an area of hobby, you know,"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "it's a hobbyist thing or dilotants, it's"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "fun and it's sort of sci-fi and whatnot."}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "When you start peeling it back and it's"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "real and it is, I would have given up my"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "medical career to do this if it was some"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "trivial thing. But"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "then you you you're saying you have to"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "begin to be responsible. What I'm not"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "seeing yet is people treating this"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "responsibly because you're playing with"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "fire. This information comes out the"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "wrong way. It'd be much better if it was"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "kept secret. So, uh, and and the people"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "who are trying to steer it in the threat"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "direction, in the false militaristic"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "direction, um, those folks are playing"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "with fire. And to the extent that they"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "can deceive members, key members of"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "Congress or in people in the White"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "House, now we're talking about going on"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "a trajectory that would be catastrophic."}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "So, we're trying to steer this in a"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "truthful direction with a good outcome"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "and not a war of the world's hysteria"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "outcome. Um, we what we want is an era"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "of peace, peaceful contact,"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "enlightenment, high-tech, bring the"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "energy technologies out that would"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "transform the planet in a generation,"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "end all poverty, and end all pollution."}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "We have them. It's the ultimate peace"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "dividend. uh that should come out but it"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "has to come out wisely. For example, I"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "have said all the way back to the"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "Clinton era, we cannot let out the"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "things that fly, right? I mean, an"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "anti-gravity socalled or teleportation"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "system could be repurposed in an instant"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "by a rogue state or terrorist into a"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "missile delivery system. But something"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "that would sit on our desk here that"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "would run your house or in your car that"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "would run your car for energy from the"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "zero point or quantum vacuum that should"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "have been out a 100 years ago. I'm sure"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "you probably saw the documentary the"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "lost century where we document a 100red"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "years of these lost technologies. But it"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "has to be phased and it because if"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "everything came out at once"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "unfortunately the world is in such a"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "state of decay socially, spiritually and"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "geo geopolitically"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "that it the the the most extraordinary"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "technologies that I know of those could"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "be turned into a weapon system by all"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "manner of sociopaths out there. Uh now"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "right now some of the worst people on"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "earth have those technologies and have"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "been using them to traffic children,"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "abduct people, make it look alien,"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "mutilate people. And I just you know"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "that Peru case where faces were being"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "ripped off."}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "Oh yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "The the I know who was doing that. We"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "know it was a human operation. It wasn't"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "extraterrestrial. It was done using a"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "very high-tech system to create terror"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "and to give aliens a bad name. See, this"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "is the kind of thing that you have to"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "have a deep intelligence network to to"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "find out, you know, what's behind this"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "phenomenon and you know, right? And and"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "that's what I try to do is go down to"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "the base, you know, where where is it"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "really where the rubber meets the road,"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "you know, but you can't do it by just"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "getting a superficial report. What's"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "behind what h that phenomenon? Well, you"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "find out what part of it is a man-made"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "psychological warfare operation. For"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "example, we can't get it from him, but"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "Dr. Jacqu Valet admitted in his 1992"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "book that he has a CIA document from"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "1985."}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "Yeah. describing"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "the CIA engaged in alien abductions"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "using these high-tech ships that look"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "like a UFO in Brazil and Argentina for"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "and I'm quoting it says for"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "psychological warfare value exactly the"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "same there it is but there's a document"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "from the ' 50s"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "that's from CIA by one of the directors"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "Smith uh CI director Smith who said yeah"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "that we're going to use the UFO subject"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "for its quote psychological warfare"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "value. So, it's like, you know, this is"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "where people in the gyosphere and and"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "people in your network need to wake up"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "to um how easily it is to manipulate and"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "create war. The people who benefit and"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "profit, not only financially, but in"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "controlling the masses through war and"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "conflict. They cannot get away with it"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "on something this big, right? They've"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "gotten away with it on other"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "geopolitical uh problems like the wars"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "in Afghanistan and Iraq, Vietnam,"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "elsewhere. But we cannot let this happen"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "on this issue or it it's really bad news"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "for humanity. So that's, you know,"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "there's a right way and a truthful way"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "for this to be disclosed. But I would"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "say that the center of all the money and"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "zeitgeist in disclosure world, the irony"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "is I founded the whole global disclosure"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "movement and 90% of it's been hijacked"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "into this threat narrative by people who"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "people who have been paid to do that or"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "told to do it. So this is where we have"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "to be very careful and um I think that"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "we're at the point now an inflection"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "point where this is all going to happen"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "in the next year or two almost"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "certainly. Oh yeah, maybe sooner. Uh I I"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "know this. Yeah. And so it's moving very"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "quickly at at some very deep and also"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "high level. So you know we"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "can you share any more details? You or"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "you can't say anything yet?"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "Uh oh yeah, but you know I have a whole"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "weekend to share with people in the"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "guidance. It would take it would take"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "much longer than we have here. But"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "fair enough."}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "But I'll just say that you know the pe"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "there there multiple categories of"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "whistleblowers. Some are willing to come"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "forward. Some want a subpoena to give"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "them cover and others want to stay in"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "the shadows but are operating behind the"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "scene to network and get things to"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "happen for let's call it the white hats"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "uh or as they call themselves the first"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "time they contacted me a few years ago"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "they said we're the have nots and we're"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "talking about the top Jtock you know"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "special forces Pentagon uh and other"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "people in government Um, and they said,"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "you know, we call ourselves the have"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "nots because we know there's a a deeper"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "deep black operation going on that even"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "those of us with top secret clearance"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "and read into black projects that are"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "legal black, by the way, a legal black"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "project, the president and the gang of"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "eight, the oversight chairs in the House"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "and the Senate know about. An illegal"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "black project is one that is completely"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "off book and is being run illegally and"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "unconstitutionally. The entire UAP UFO"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "subject since the late 50s, the late"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "Eisenhower era, has been run as an"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "illegal black project."}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "Dr. Greer, why are we shooting at UFOs?"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "There was a video released in the UAP"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "hearing that showed a Hellfire missile"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "hit some sort of anomalous object."}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "Honestly, it really bothered me. I think"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "a lot of the public was flabbergasted."}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "They they couldn't believe that we would"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "shoot at something potentially millions"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "of years more advanced than us. Why are"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "we shooting at UFOs?"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "Yeah, I had seen that before it was"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "released, that video. And by the way, it"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "that object that was zipping through an"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "a theater of operations near Yemen um in"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "20 about a year ago in October 2024,"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "that object almost certainly was not uh"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "NHI nonhuman ET. It was one of ours. But"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "remember the people running covert"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "programs using human high-tech based on"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "anti-gravity or reverse engineered EET"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "tech, those guys are their own entity."}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "They're their own universe. And the the"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "guys who are operating the drone"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "hellfire missile that fired at that"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "don't know anything about it. This is"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "like when you had the t think about"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "this. You had the tic tac, right? That"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "whole famous case is on CNN, everywhere."}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "Uh, as soon as it came out, of course, I"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "knew it was a Lockheed Martin skunk"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "works device, man-made, and I alerted"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "people that's what it was. And we have"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "people who know for a fact, um, in the"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "system on our team. But, of course,"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "David Fraver, who was a, you know,"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "pilot, the F-18 pilot, he told me, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "it has to be alien. We don't have"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "anything like that.\" I said, \"You're"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "read in on even top secret operations"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "that are in the conventional legal"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "world. This is the exotic illegal world,"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "and you would have no foundation. If the"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "president isn't read in on this, why"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "would a jet pilot, right?\""}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "So, this gets into the conundrum. So,"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "but it's dangerous. And here's why it's"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "dangerous. because you have perfectly"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "honest, good men and women in the"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "mainline military, Pentagon, or even CIA"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "who know nothing about this issue. And"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "so a tech like this shows up, well, how"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "are you going to react? Is it an enemy"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "object? Did it come out of Iran? Did it?"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "So they're going to fire on it. But this"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "lack of information has also resulted in"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "some disastrous situations where we have"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "fired on peaceful ET craft. Now there's"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "another whole level of operations where"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "we are deliberately targeting ET"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "vehicles with advanced uh energy weapons"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "mainly scalar and electromagnetic pulse"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "weapons that will knock them out because"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "these ET craft are 100% electronic. Um"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "there's no fuel payload. you hit them"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "with an a a directional EMP weapon, it"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "freezes all their systems and they drop"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "like a rock right out to the ground or"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "into the ocean. And I've known about"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "those operations for many decades. And"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "um that it's a very dangerous game being"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "played. This is why uh in 1990 the my"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "core program uh and people should get"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "the app C5 contact. A lot of what we're"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "going to be doing in the gyosphere is"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "I'm going to be unpacking why C5 contact"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "or close encounters of the fifth kind"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "where people make contact with these"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "civilizations. Um, understanding the vas"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "and Sanskrit. We'll get to this with the"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "bugosphere in a minute and how"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "communication happens through both a"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "machine and consciousness. The interface"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "between mind and machine. That's what I"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "discovered when I had my onboard ETcraft"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "contact experience in 1973 when I was"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "18. And that's when I created this whole"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "contact protocol C5, Close Encounters of"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "the Fifth Kind. You know, in"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "preparation, people could see the the"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "documentary called Close Encounters of"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "the Fifth Kind. It has had hundreds of"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "millions of people see it. And I think"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "it'd be good for people who are coming"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "to see that before the event and also"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "get the app. The C5 contact app is a"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "whole training program in meditation,"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "remote viewing, setting up those systems"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "to be able to make contact, etc. and so"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "on. But"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "yeah, you know, and I'll"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "Yeah. No, those are no, those are"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "amazing resources. Question for clarity"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "though because one thing in the space"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "people talk about a lot is is the craft"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "conscious or is the are you when you"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "connect to a craft or you you're on a"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "craft they they people in whistleblowers"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "talk about feeling like the craft is"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "alive."}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "Are you saying more it is okay? Are you"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "saying it's a merging between the"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "biological entity and the craft itself"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "or they're separate? They're both their"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "own conscious beings of some sort. And"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "well, it's like uh the father of quantum"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "mechanics said the total number of minds"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "in the universe is one. It's a"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "singularity. That is the singularity,"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "not what AI people talk about. And so"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "what you're talking about here are"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "technologies that are so advanced that"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "let's say the commander or the person"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "you know piloting the the ET craft the"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "consciousness of that uh person even"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "it's an extraterrestrial person is"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "embedded within all the systems of that"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "craft. And so the the the craft itself"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "is conscious but by an extension an"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "interface with the awareness of the"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "pilot or the commander or whoever. And"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "so the really other part of this is that"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "those craft also have a biological"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "component. So even at even at Roswell,"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "the ones that the one that didn't get"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "blown to smitherines, some of the skin"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "on the craft, uh a witness who was there"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "before he died I met with in 1995"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "at the first gathering of whistleblowers"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "I organized uh back then and 30 years"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "ago. And he said, yeah, he said the skin"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "on it was like if you took a time lapse,"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "let's say you got cut and you did a time"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "lapse of your skin healing."}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. It was doing that in front"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "of their eyes, right?"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "So, so the the technology, it's called a"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "bio nano technology where there's a"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "biological technological interface but"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "at a nano molecular level but deeper"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "than that even at a consciousness level."}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "So, we're talking, you know, this ain't"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "your granddad's Oldsmobile, right? Um or"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "a bowling Dreamliner. Um uh so and"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "that's the other thing you know in terms"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "of making contact there's a very clear"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "distinction between a a man-made UFO and"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "how it can respond versus an"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "interstellar one. And I'm going to go"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "through this in the gyosphere in"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "November so that people understand when"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "they have a encounter or sighting how do"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "you distinguish between you know it's"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "like is it is it fake meaning a man-made"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "one or an actual one. Most people don't"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "know what that criteria is and there is"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "a criteria but a lot of it has to do"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "with the interactivity of that craft"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "with your own thought and consciousness."}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "Like you can think to it if ZT and say"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "you know please move to the right and"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "it'll move to the right."}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "Um that that's so fascinating."}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "Yeah. And that's called a C5 close"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "encounter the fifth kind. So, we do this"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "as a formal program and um yeah, I mean,"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "if you guys had an outdoor amphitheater,"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "I'd take people out at night or it would"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "be too cold in November. But"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "talk about it. We can't pull it off."}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "Believe me, we want to do it, but it's"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "just too hard to pull off with"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "everybody."}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "I know. Oh, we we just we do it all the"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "time. Well, it's hard to find the right"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "place, but we just had 300 people out in"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "the desert in in Arizona doing it. And"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "Wow. By the way, you're going to see"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "some footage. We had over three nights,"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "three separate nights, between 250 and"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "300 spheres and orbs that appeared that"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "materialized in clear air and"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "disappeared. It's amazing what happened."}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "Phenomenal."}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "I can't wait till you release that."}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "That's incredible."}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. We we'll we'll show it to"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "folks at the Gossphere cuz we're we're"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "you know we have a uh five high"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "resolution cameras on a platform getting"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "360 images"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "but it's a huge amount of data. Uh and"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "our team is all volunteer. We don't have"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "the kind of wealth that Gia has. So um"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "we have to just have volunteers go"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "through that footage. But um someday I"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "hope we can get an AI program that can"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "scan you know all these terabytes of"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "data from these videos from very high"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "and pick up the anomalous material. But"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "right now it's being done by hand which"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "is laborious. But we're going to put"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "some of that together and show folks and"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "uh I would witnessed all three of those"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "night events. Um and two of them were"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "very late. or 3:00 4:00 in the morning"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "when most I always stay up till 4:00 or"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "5 because that's when everything great"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "happens between 2:00 and 5:00 a.m. If"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "you enjoyed this video, make sure to"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "check out the next one right here on the"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "best of Dr. Steven Greer."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Everyone should remember one lightyear"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "is the distance that a light goes at"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "186,000"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "miles every second for a whole year. So"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "every second of a year that's the"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "distance. That's what a light year is."}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "It's not a measure. It's a measurement"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "of distance, not time. It was to see how"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "the media and the public could react and"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "how much hysteria in the White House and"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "in Congress they could create. Look, th"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "this is the oldest game in the"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "intelligence playbook. There are some"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "extraordinary things that are being seen"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "that everyone says, \"Oh, it's got to be"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "alien. It's extraterrestrial.\" No, it's"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "not."}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "Dr. Greer, it's so good to see you."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "Thank you for doing this."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "You're welcome. Good to see you, too."}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "I know. I'm fired up and everyone at"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "Guyia is fired up for your event coming"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "up in November 8th and 9th. We are so"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "excited to have you back on campus."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "Great. Yeah. Know it would be great to"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "be there. It's always a wonderful crowd"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "um and very supportive venue for what"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "we're doing not only on disclosure but"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "on the science of consciousness and the"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "whole spectrum of the cosmology. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "So I and we're going to do a deep dive"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "into that part of it as well. Awesome."}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "Well, I'm excited to jump into some"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "really hot topic questions right now in"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "the world of disclosure. But before we"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "do that, people are listening. Today is"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "the last day of the early bird special"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "for the event. So if you really want to"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "go, click on the link in the description"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "below. Okay, so let's jump right in. Dr."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "Gre, I'm excited for this. So probably"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "the biggest question, the most exciting"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "thing happening in the space right now"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "that everyone's talking about is three"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "Atlas. I'm hearing from Abby Lobo that"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "it could be potentially something"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "extraordinary. I'm hearing from NASA"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "that no, no, no, it's just a comet. And"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "am I hearing from all sorts of different"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "types of people on the internet that it"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "could be something like an alien mother"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "ship or some sort of extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "race? We need clarity. Dr. Greer, can"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "you please provide some clarity on what"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "you think threeey atlas is or what"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "you're hearing?"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "Well, first of all, it'd be unlikely to"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "be a comet. Uh, it'd be more likely to"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "be a rogue asteroid rock. Comets are"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "more gaseous. And anyway, so um as far"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "as it being anything under intelligent"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "control, I haven't seen any data to"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "suggest that. Now,"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "if it does have artificial components to"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "it, which I haven't seen, uh then"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "there's also other possibilities. For"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "example, there have been u civilizations"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "in our solar system and outside our"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "solar system for millions of years. This"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "could be the equivalent of some space"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "junk from a long time ago. that's"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "drifted in. There are a lot of"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "possibilities that I can think of. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "of course, the internet, the hysteria,"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "and and Ali Lo jump immediately to some"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "of the more sensational ones, although"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "he's backtracked on that, saying that"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "it's, you know, he was saying"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "theoretically it could be this, which is"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "a sort of a scop. So my understanding of"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "of the the cell that Avi Lobo is part of"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "the the uh UFO connected cell group that"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "he's connected to is is a very prominent"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "disinformation gaslighting operation. So"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "I'm pretty sure that anything from those"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "quarters I would look at very"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "skeptically particularly when it begins"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "to track towards a threat from outer"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "space. Remember right this is what Verer"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "von Brown on his deathbed told my dear"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "friend Carol Rosen who was his"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "right-hand assistant in 1974"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "that over a period of decades they would"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "roll out this alien threat to sort of"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "unite the world around sort of a"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "totalitarian militaristic dystopia that"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "would be looking at anything from space"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "as a threat that we should fight which"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "would then build military and"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "intelligent spending. And that whole"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "scheme was concocted in about 195354."}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "And we have documents in our archive to"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "prove it. If you go to DPI.com,"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "it's the disclosure project intelligence"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "archive. There's terabytes of data in"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "there. We put everything in um except"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "sensitive stuff that have names and"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "sources that we can't disclose. And it"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "it clearly goes through what what that"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "whole objective has been all the way"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "tracking for the last 70 years since the"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "the early to mid uh 50s. So I think that"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "I would look at it very I I look at"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "these things very skeptically"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "particularly when it becomes an internet"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "zeitgeist of hysteria and we're being"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "invaded. And this is what the drone"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "stuff, right? And you remember last year"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "at this time and"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "and all the drone stuff and it was a"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "SCOP. All of those were man-made. We"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "know who were doing it. I know the head"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "of a team that was doing reconnaissance"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "of them out of Lheed uh skunk works. And"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "it was to see how the media and the"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "public would react and how much hysteria"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "in the White House and in Congress they"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "could create. Look, this is the oldest"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "game in the intelligence playbook. And"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "of course, the problem with, let's just"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "say, retail bufology and pop culture is"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "that there's not any depth of"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "intelligence analysis. And as you know,"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "I've been briefing people like the"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "director of the CIA since 1993."}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "So, I come to this from a very, I don't"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "know if you say skeptical, wary. I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "very wary of things that have that spin"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "on it because I know that that's been"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "the long-term agenda. So, this Atlas,"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "you know, comet, asteroid, whatever it"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "is, I can't disprove, you can't prove a"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "negative. I can't disprove that it's not"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "of artificial manufacturer. But even if"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "it was to be one, remember, any"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "interplanetary"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "uh civilization is not going to be"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "drifting along at that speed. It ain't"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "going to happen. They're going to be"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "moving in hyperspace. They're going to"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "be going like teleportation be going"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "from point A to B like this, right?"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "Quantum entanglement, but on a macro"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "scale with a whole spacecraft. I'm going"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "to describe it this for Gaia when I'm"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "there. How these technologies work and"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "how they're related to quantum"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "entanglement also, but also to conscious"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "field and consciousness. There's a whole"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "nexus where all this comes together. Um,"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "and you know, the term I use is"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "transdimensional interstellar, right?"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "Because they're interstellar, but"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "they're tra they're transiting different"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "dimensions. And we're going to do a deep"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "unpacking of that for everyone at Gaia"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "uh in November. So my intention is to"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "get clarity on the cosmology"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "uh and then understand it. But if you"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "understand the physics, I know you my"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "uncle was North Brahman his whole life"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "and he worked on the lunar module team"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "that put the first man on the moon. And"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "you know when you're talking, you're not"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "talking about things drifting along at"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "100,000 mph or 50,000 mph. You're"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "talking about things that are beyond the"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "speed of light. What we call super"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "luminal travel. So any legitimate"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "interstellar"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "craft has that capability because"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "otherwise to go from point A to B even"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "to our from our closest"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "uh you know star system would take a"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "thousands or millions of years at"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "something less than the speed of light."}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "Um, now you know when you're talking"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "about this object drifting along at a"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "few tens of thousands or hundreds of"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "thousands of of of miles per hour, it's"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "very that sounds fast, but from an"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "interstellar the distances, everyone"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "should remember one lightyear is the"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "distance that a light goes at 186,000"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "miles every second for a whole year. So"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "every second of a year, that's the"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "distance. That's what a lightyear is."}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "It's not a measure. It's it's a"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "measurement of distance, not time. So, a"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "light year is that amount of distance."}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "So, even our closest stellar neighbors"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "would be, you know, at that speed, it'd"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "be ludicrous that they could ever get"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "here. Um, so this is the whole problem."}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "And anyone who's an astrophysicist or"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "someone at Harvard who doesn't know"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "that, I'd be very worried about their"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "intellectual acumen."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "Thank you for that. Thank you for that"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "clarity. I feel the same way you do, but"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "I can't put it in the words you just put"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "it. Thank you. That's what I needed."}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "That's I need to give that to all my"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "friends and be like, \"This is exactly"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "what I think's going on.\" But a"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "follow-up question to that is"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "when you talk about the threat-based"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "narrative, has it specifically the idea"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "of an alien mothership coming to get us"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "been talked about in these programs"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "before?"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "Well, they create that. So, in other"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "words, let's unwind this a little bit so"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "that we get some sort of foundation for"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "everyone listening. Uh please we have"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "people on our team who have been able to"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "confirm from being in classified"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "projects"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "uh as well as in uh the CIA and NSA"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "vaults where the secret documents are"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "kept that all that we mastered gravity"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "control and propulsion in October of"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "1954."}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "So I was born in June of 1955. I'm 70."}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "So that's 71 years ago, right? So when"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "you look at this, 71 years ago, we"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "mastered gravity control. Before that,"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "we had gravity propulsion systems, but"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "they weren't stable. This is why you see"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "in the early 50s and late 40s some old"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "home movies of man-made UFOs that"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "flutter like a leaf. Those were our"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "experimental ones, not the extra."}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "Oh, really?"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "Yes. Okay. So yes, so you know, I hate"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "to say it. I mean it's it's the science"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "of this does matter even though we live"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "in a very anti-science time and there's"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "very little valid science going on in"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "ufology as you know. So the the problem"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "becomes if if if they have had these"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "covert programs have had that capability"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "since October 54 to have stable"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "electrogravidic gravity control craft"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "and they have that means that by now 71"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "years later there are some extraordinary"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "things that are being seen that everyone"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "says oh it's got to be alien it's"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "extraterrestrial. No, it's not. It's"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "from the Lockheed skunk ports just north"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "of Brahman. Some of the very"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "sophisticated ones that are partially"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "living bio nano machines or Rathon. Um"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "we know where they are. We're know we"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "know how they've been uh used in"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "clandestine operations. This is being"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "looked at by some very senior people in"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "the US government now as criminal"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "activity. Uh because I have said since"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "the '90s that this is the world's"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "largest RICO, racketeering influence"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "corrupt organization running this. Um"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "and the RICO law was passed in 1970 to"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "take apart the mafia. So now it's it's"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "got to be used to take apart this cabal"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "of folks doing these things. But their"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "plan was always to use the man-made"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "platforms"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "uh to deceive the public. Let's give a"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "great example. Many of the triangular"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "craft that you see, there are ones that"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "are extraterrestrial, but what they did"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "was reverse engineer that and now"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "there's a whole fleet of various sized"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "man-made triangles that are from mainly"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "Northrup, Grummen, and Rathon. So, this"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "is how easy it is to deceive the public,"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "but by extension members of Congress,"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "the president, whoever it is. So, you"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "know, not you what does it say?"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "Knowledge is power and uh and of vas"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "Sanskrit says knowledge is the greatest"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "purifier. So the knowledge of this is"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "important and the science of it is"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "important and this trajectory of"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "technological evolution from the 40s and"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "50s to now is important and without that"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "information it's sort of you know a very"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "superficial I saw this object. Well yeah"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "but where did it come from? Was it"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "actually an interstellar object? Was it"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "something nonhuman or is it actually one"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "of our Cubird programs setting up a sort"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "of a psychological warfare operation, a"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "SCOP? And and no, no one's asking these"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "hard questions properly. And that's what"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "we're trying to to bring to light"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "because I can tell you at this point,"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "knowing what I know that's going on"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "behind the scenes, this whole area of"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "secrecy is going to get disclosed. But"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "if it gets disclosed deceptively, it'll"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "lead straight to a catastrophe. So what"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "we're trying to do is to be sure it's"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "being disclosed truthfully. Uh and"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "that's a very lonely space to be in."}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "Frankly, I'll speak personally. Uh"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "because most people either don't have"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "that information or they're operatives"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "that are deliberately uh deceiving"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "members of the US government uh and and"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "and the media and the public. So this"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "this gets into a big complicated problem"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "here where uh what I'm trying to do is"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "assemble the whistleblowers who have"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "that information on not only what's been"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "done with extraterrestrial vehicles but"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "what we're doing with the man-made tech"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "high-tech exotic technology that have"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "been used to stage mutilations,"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "abductions, big events, the whole drone"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "scare and and now there's this thing"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "coming in from space. this this Atlas uh"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "comet,"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "whatever they're calling it. I don't"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "think it's a comet. Maybe. I think it's"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "more likely to be a rogue asteroid,"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "but whatever it is, you know, uh the"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "spin that's being put on it, the"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "hysteria, the internet, the media is is"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "very much looks to me like a a"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "psychological warfare operation."}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "Well, I agree with you. And speaking of"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "whistleblowers, we just had a big, I"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "would say, historic UAP hearing, the"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "third one in three years. It seems"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "significant to me. It seemed more that"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "not necessarily the whistleblowers were"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "bigger or more important or more"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "interesting than years past, but the way"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "Congress was kind of treating it and how"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "they were talking about it. Speaking of"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "your whistleblowers in the UAP hearing,"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "like what are you hearing? What what's"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "going to come next? What did you glean"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "from the hearing and and what is your"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "team working on now?"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "Uh well none of the hearings have had"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "anything substantive yet. Um now none of"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "them I mean it's if you go back to 20 I"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "would ask your viewers to go back to"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "2001 look in our archive at the National"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "Press Club event. We had 22"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "whistleblowers any one of which were"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "extremely 10 times more consequential"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "than anyone that's been appearing at"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "these hearings. And that's by design."}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "the people who have intercepted the"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "leadership of that committee. Luna for"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "example, uh who I briefed years ago,"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "they have been intercepted by folks who"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "are feeding them minor, they're not even"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "whistleblowers. They're minor witnesses"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "and they're minor uh people who really"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "many of them like Mike Gold who I know"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "doesn't know anything about the subject"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "and admits he doesn't. Meanwhile, I"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "turned over a list of about 50 very high"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "value targets who need to be subpoenaed"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "that they won't call. So, there's"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "something very odd going on here. And"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "I've been in private meetings up on"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "Capitol Hill in the Senate and the House"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "and I have brought in many of these high"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "value whistleblowers who have actually"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "worked on the craft or been involved in"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "operations um involving both ET and"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "man-made craft and who are direct"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "firsthand not secondhand firstirhand"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "witnesses. And curiously, they're not"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "calling any of them. They're not even"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "asking them to appear. They have been"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "blocked. So the real whistleblowers and"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "the real hearings are being blocked by"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "people who have who have deliberately"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "misinformed uh and disinformed actually"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "people like uh uh Miss Luna and others."}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "Now I'm working with other members of"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "the Senate and House who are not being"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "so easily deceived. But the the dog and"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "pony show that you're calling these"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "hearings, it's it's sound and fury"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "signifying nothing to quote Shakespeare."}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "But now, you know, the night before that"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "hearing, I was at a private gathering"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "with some of them and a few of the"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "members to Congress and and and got to"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "speak to them. And so there's two tracks"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "going on. There's the thing you're"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "seeing in the public and there's what's"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "really going on that's significant"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "behind the scenes. And to the extent I"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "can talk about that at the at"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "Gaiosphere, I'm going to go into a deep"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "dive into that cuz I think the public"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "curious about this need to know how this"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "is operating, what's actually going on."}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "um that's going to be that is very"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "consequential and and you know I can't"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "talk too specifically but I can tell you"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "that it's at a very high level here and"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "abroad and it's very serious and there's"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "enormous progress my 35 I mean I started"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "this project in 1990 so I was 35 years"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "ago I was 35 and now I'm say literally"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "half my biological life and what I found"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "is is that what's happened in the last"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "uh 2 years. It's mostly behind the"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "scenes. Uh is unlike anything I've seen"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "in 35 years. But"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "real progress. You're confident that"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "we're making real progress on"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "disclosure."}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "Oh, yeah. But you're not going to see it"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "on, you know, a hearing like that. Not"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "yet. Now, what we're trying to do is be"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "sure that there's a enough evidence that"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "comes out asymmetrically"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "um from whistleblowers and evidence that"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "it would force real hearings where the"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "key players would be subpoenaed and"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "people who have been in these operations"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "and in these underground facilities who"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "we have on our team would be subpoenaed"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "and be under oath. Now, we have them. I"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "have in our if you go to our archive"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "you'll see we have 750ome"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "whistleblowers"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "and they're willing to talk"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "willing to talk if there's subpoenaed"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "only if they get subpoenaed."}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "Some are willing to talk right now and"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "they still will not be allowed to at"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "these hearings but the ones who need a"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "subpoena they'll be subpoenaed. Um same"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "thing with law enforcement and you know"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "if a federal agent comes up to you and"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "asks you about something and you lie"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "that's a felony. So, we have people at"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "the very senior level of law enforcement"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "that we've handled handed everything off"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "to and those those guys are running fast"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "and running hard. So, no, this is"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "enormous progress. I mean, unbelievable"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "progress is on and on."}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "If you enjoyed this video, make sure to"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "check out the next one right here on the"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "best of Dr. Steven Greer."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "And if we do that, we can create an entirely new civilization on earth that will go on for hundreds of thousands of"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "years in peace and abundance. It's not a conspiracy theory. This is a complete corruption of the fourth estate of the"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "freedom of the press. You have to question what part of it is real, what"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "part of it is hoaxed, and why would they want people to think that there's a"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "threat? What Reagan said, what General MacArthur said. Because"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "I always ask people, \"Aren't you tired yet? Aren't you tired of hating?"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "Aren't you tired of fear?\" I mean, you know, we went from, you know, in the South where I grew up."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "I had a African-American, we just said black back then. I had a"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "black girlfriend in high school, 1972 and three in North Carolina. Let me tell you that this ain't Toronto. And"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "and I was almost murdered. I was chased by some rednecks who were screaming the n-word lover at me at as they chased me"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "on my bicycle and ran me into the woods. And you know, I remember as a child"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "going to my father's Sears store where he sold fencing and there were white and black water fountains. I was four or"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "five years old. This was about 1959 or 60. And I I went to one one time and"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "I I I was thirsty and it was August and it's the south and it's hotter and blue hell. And so I go over and I'm drinking"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "out of this one. I can't read cuz I'm four years old. And this old woman comes"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "up to me and shakes me, \"Don't drink out of that. That's for the colors.\" And I said, \"Well, is the water poison?\" \"No.\""}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "I said, \"Well, will it hurt?\" You know, I didn't. It was like magical cuz my family were was not racist. But it was"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "this whole magical belief system of the Jim Crow South. I lived in it. Now, now"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "we have a magical belief system about what I call alienism"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "who we have to be afraid of. Same techniques have been used by the same demagogues who want to control you"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "through fear and create the foundation for war. Don't take it. Don't believe"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "it. We can't be fooled again. It's like the who. But we have been fooled again over and over. So this is my wakeup"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "call. This movie is the wakeup call for that. Then we went through, of course, the"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "civil rights era. And I was involved with that. And we made great progress, but we're"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "not quite there yet. But lo and behold, then we get into the whole thing where there's one religion fighting another,"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "which is nothing new, but has been escalating rapidly since we've been in"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "involving ourselves in the Middle East. And then we have the whole question of"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "uh gender equality. And let's not forget it is pride for Toronto. I understand"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "this weekend. Happy Pride, the LGBT folks. um that"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "people were routinely killed for being gay or lesbian and certainly thrown in prison. Uh so, okay. So, I think we're"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "we have to realize that humanity has this thousand multi-,000-year history of"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "finding any difference we have for each other and making war out of it and"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "hatred. And that is what we have to transcend. To me, that's the original sin of the"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "human race is that if you look at our genetic roots from primates, monkeys,"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "they organize into troops that do get into wars and they do murder each other."}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "And we've carried that proclivity into our culture. So if somebody is a"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "different color, a different race, a different sexual orientation, a different religion, a different ethnicity, my god, for so many years,"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "hundreds of years, there were conflicts in Ireland and it was white Christians that happen to be Protestant blowing up"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "white Christians that happen to be Catholic. Doing. Now we're supposed to figure out"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "how to live together in the cosmos with civilizations from other star systems."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "You see what a leap this is? How are we going to do that? You can't go to war"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "because it'd be the end of all life on Earth. The weapons are too powerful. They make a hydrogen bomb look like a"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "tinker toy. Trust me on this. I I know what these weapons are. So, the only"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "path forward is one of universal peace, not world peace. World peace would have"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "been 1917. All right. And League of Nations. We"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "have to establish universal peace. And that was why I left medicine. All right?"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "To to get that message out. We have to go from where we are to a civilization that understands that there is a"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "singularity of consciousness of the mind that unites all intelligent life in the universe and"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "that we are those people."}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "Now, a lot of the the problem with this whole issue has been also the extent to which the media has"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "corrupted and and Mr. Helier referred to some of it, but I want to play this clip"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "from a counter in this is a professional disinformation officer and he's in the"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "movie unacknowledged, but he comes clean. Listen to this. I c I I c I got some answers out of him I never thought"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "I'd get. Let's play uh officer Dodie. Yeah. The high level producers and"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "directors. Yeah. And were they how are they paid so that"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "it wasn't cash? Yeah. You pay what you do is you make"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "them sign a form and you tell them you got to report this to IRS. But whether they do it or not, you know,"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "you you're not going to give your form to IRS. I paid I paid uh"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "I better not say there were some of them are large."}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "He's talking about paying off the media. Now when you see his whole interview which is a a bonus feature on iTunes and"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "also we have a DVD of it from our online seriousdisclosure.com s i r"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "iusdisclosure.com. You get this whole interview. It's like two or three hours. He's talking about how as a counter"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "intelligence officer, he would carry bags of cash not just to local and at Kirkland Air Force Base, but national"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "media to get their cooperation on this subject. And then we have the uh astonishing fact"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "that the constitutional attorney Daniel Shehan was involved in a case where he"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "saw a document where there were 42 people all who were the editors and people who are national security"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "correspondents at the major North American and European papers that were on the payroll of the CIA"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "directly. This is not a conspiracy theory. This is a complete corruption of the fourth estate of the freedom of the"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "press. So, thank goodness we have the internet now. But the internet is a non- selective filter. Everything gets put up"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "there. Information, disinformation, nonsense, rubbish, truth, all of it's up"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "there. But the mainstream media routinely kills these stories. And"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "what's interesting, and and let's not talk about ancient history. We will in a moment because that all started back in"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "the 40s with the Roswell event. The last eight weeks since when is a"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "crowdfunded independent modestbudget documentary"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "gets released and it's number one on the world's largest platform, iTunes"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "globally for two months and no major media will do a story about it."}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "That's true. Yeah. No, it's not on, you know, they have Bigalow who's been working with the"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "Cabal on 60 Minutes. At the same time, this is on number one."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "So, what you find is that the corruption is ongoing in the media and the only way"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "we're going to get around it is with the freedoms of the internet, but also word of mouth. All of us, everyone we know. I"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "want to play this next clip from Carol Rosen who was referenced by Paul Helier."}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "She's a very dear friend and she had been Verer von Brown's spokesperson for the last few years of his life. Um,"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "listen to this carefully."}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "You can play that one. When von Brown was dying in front of me the very first"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "day that I met him, he had tubes draining out of his side and he was tapping on the desk telling"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "me you will come to Fairchild. I was a school teacher. You will come to Fairchild and you will be responsible"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "for keeping weapons out of space. The strategy that Verervon Brown taught me was that first the Russians were the"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "enemy against whom we're going to build space-based weapons. Then terrorists would be identified. Then we were going"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "to identify third world country crazies. And the next enemy was asteroids. The"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "last card is the alien card. And all of it he said is a lie. A lie."}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "Yep. Now play the next one. Listen very carefully."}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "H have you been exposed or did you come across in in your career in your network"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "um the the false INW or or the deceptive indication and warnings projects"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "related to this? Yes. And what did you find out about those?"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "Um that's pretty cl That's pretty hush that's I I don't think I should talk about that. Yeah, I mean that's where"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "when I briefed the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, that was the main subject. That is um Yeah, that's very uh"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "sensitive. Yeah, it's very sensitive. Yeah. Yeah, that's very He's admitting to the"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "false flag, but he won't go into the detail. What he doesn't say is volumes."}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "Now, play the next one."}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "We did do that. Yes, I'm asking about the OSI did that. There was a special group"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "uh out of uh the 76002nd Air Intel wing at Fort Bel war. They came out and did"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "that. They uh had these uh people that had maybe some sort of defects"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "uh anomical defects that were uh brought brought in to to to fool people and"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "thinking they're aliens. Yeah. Um, I can't give you any specifics because"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "it's still the program is still classified and they probably still doing it. I wouldn't doubt doubt it. They were"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "still doing it."}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "Okay, I think this is a bleed over from another clip. The the key point was I was asking him about staging alien"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "abductions. We did not go into mutilations and uh I basically asked him"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "are you aware of this? If you look at his whole interview and in the book unagnowledged the whole transcript is in"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "there. The book has about 10 times more information than the film. And he talks"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "about the fact that there were some specific cases he knew about in Washington state where people saw"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "something they shouldn't have seen that was man-made and they then sent in a home invasion team of aliens that were"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "man-made to attack them. Now, this is very reminiscent of the Stan Romanet"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "case, and you heard some years ago, and he was on Larry King and all these shows with Buu, you know, the the alien that"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "would pop his head up. Well, I went to his home, and Ricky Butterface, who's here with me, can attest to this,"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "and to meet with him and see what had actually happened. And he, it turns out,"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "he had sold the rights to the tape recordings I'm about to describe to Da"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "Disney, which black sheld them. Now, in this particular case, in in one of these"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "incidents, he was having like his medicine bottles were being like microwaved and and and melted in his"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "cabinet and weird stuff going on and uh electromagnetic strangeness in his"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "house. And one particular day he so he had a a camera set up, a video camera."}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "He was in his kitchen and it was running and this alien walks in"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "and apparently throws a canister, some chemical and he passes out, knocks the"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "camera over and there would been someone who kept warning him about what was going on."}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "Apparently his father was in the Air Force and there must have been a friendly on the inside who knew what"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "game they were running on Stan. And he had this tape recording and it was a tape recording of a computerenerated"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "voice saying Stan. It was a female British sounding voice. Stan, it's one of the fake ones. That was a fake one."}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "Over and over again. And I'm sitting there with a MUON investigator and uh"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "Ricky Butterf and myself and Stan Roman and his wife. I said, \"Oh yeah, obviously that's a fake one.\" They said,"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "\"We don't know what that means.\" I said, \"That's a man-made one. We've been building those out of the underground"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "facilities. I' I've been in I know exactly who's building those. That's not an ET."}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "And they went, \"What?\" They didn't even know that was possible. Well, Dodie admits that they have done this. So then"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "the question, you have to then take everything you ever read and everything you've ever seen and go, was it real or"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "was it memorex? as they used to say in the commercials, you know, was it is it real or was it something that there was made up for its psychological warfare"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "value? And I'm quoting from a CIE document from 1953. To what extent have we been deceived?"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "And so I think this is why we have to be brutally honest with ourselves. And I"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "have had contact with ETSs and I have also been targeted with what he's describing both. And I know the"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "difference and and I can tell you that it's quite clear the difference. Um and"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "the electromagnetic weapon systems that can induce an abduction state uh and"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "then the things they can do are truly terrifying. And the same thing with the"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "mutilations. You know Dr. John Alter who was a hematologist pathologist in"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "Denver who was the original Snippy the horse investigator back in the late60s in Colorado is a very good friend of"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "mine and uh he concluded that those were 100% being done by paramilitary human"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "groups made to look alien because they would frighten people but they were also getting raw materials for their program"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "life form labs that were in underground bases out there and they were getting cell types and cells with high motic"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "indices and things of that sort and the rect tongue and the rectum and the genitals and what have you because they"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "reproduce quickly and but they would masquerade it as a UFO doing it and he"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "figured that out long ago and then all of a sudden in the UFO subculture"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "an alien harvest. Well, no, actually it's a paramilitary harvest and we know"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "exactly what they're doing with these body parts and we know why they're doing it and they're very happy for people to"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "think it was ET. That's how counterintelligence works. So"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "if you want to study this issue, you cannot leave out, you can't just any"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "take anything at its face value. You have to question what part of it is"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "real, what part of it is hoax, and why would they want people to think that"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "there's a threat? What Reagan said, what General MacArthur said. Because let's"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "get back and follow on with what Paul Helier was sharing. How do you justify"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "trillions of dollars in expenditures unless you have a bigger and more powerful enemy?"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "you know, Leon Petta, the CIA director for Obama for a period, and I provided a briefing to him, and you know, he said"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "publicly, \"We're spending 110 billion dollars a year chasing about 70 70"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "al Qaeda people in Afghanistan.\" He literally admitted 70 70."}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "So, in order for Hallebertton to get their $150 a gallon for for a piece jug"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "of water, no bid contracts, you got to have this war going on. Chinese old"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "company, Hallebertton. So, this is all contrived, but the big one's coming. You"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "ain't seen nothing yet, friends. If you think Vietnam was a a a disaster or the"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "Iraq war in ISIS and Afghanistan's a disaster, you just stay asleep and let this other"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "one come rolling out over the public. So, we have got to wake up and realize"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "when we're being played and when we're being deceived and say, \"No, we're going to opt for universal peace and we're"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "going to opt for a new civilization. Free energy, peaceful contact with these"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "civilizations, the ending of these cabals, and the ending of the strangle"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "hold that the gang bangsters have on this planet. By the way, the reason the secrecy is so entrenched,"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "if you acknowledge that a UFO is real, man-made or ET,"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "the first question is going to be, how is it operating? When that's asked, it will be answered"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "cuz we have the answers. When that's answered, it's goodbye oil,"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "petro dollar, your public utilities, hydro power, solar, nuclear power,"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "internal combustion engines in your car, jet engines, rockets, all of it. Bang."}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "Obsolete. And we're talking hundreds of trillions of dollars in commodities that are"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "traded on the the Chicago Board of Trade just in the commodities futures derivatives."}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "that would be obsolete. You wouldn't need when you don't need coal. You don't need oil. So, you can't have this"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "subject come out without it also bringing out the sciences and technologies behind it, which is why"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "they're desperate to keep it secret and to scare people with it and create all kinds of false flag things. And people"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "say, \"When is the false flag event going to happen?\" I said, \"It happened. It's been happening since the ' 50s. We're"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "we're 60 years into the false flag operation, but no one's looking at it"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "properly. So, I want you to readjust your thinking about that. I want to play one more clip. It's a bit of a long one"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "to give you an idea to what links they will go to. This is about the Cash Land room case in Houston where all these"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "people were virtually killed and radiated by the crash of a man-made UFO."}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "I I don't know. Did you ever meet a Air Force pilot who piloted them? Only the one only the cash lander. I"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "actually interviewed him or there were four of them. I mean, there was two there was two f the two pilots."}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "There was a um uh a systems officer that"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "was handling the the equipment. And then there was a uh I can't remember what the"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "fourth person did. He was a navigator or what he was. And um I I I interviewed"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "them and and everything that could have gone wrong. It took all fine from Nevada and flew perfectly."}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "But when they it was it was going to um an air base. I can't remember which air"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "base it was. Some some air base in Texas. I think it was Web Air Force Base"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "in Big Springs. I think it was. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was Web. This is a man-made UFO."}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "When they trying to slow it down, that's when the problems happen. And then they cut power and so many things went wrong"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "that uh they almost crashed. They called for rescue helicopter cuz they thought"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "they thought we were going to crash. So these helicopters came out, but they finally got it going again and they"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "landed someplace. Apparently was just past where they spurred all this radiation on those two poor people or"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "three people or however many it were. And then they then they flew it back to uh Nevada. It was pretty huge. It was a"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "uh one of those big ones. It was a uh it was uh not uh a saucer shaped. It was"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "more huge oval shape. It was it was it was reverse engineered."}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "Reverse engineer. They trained nine months before they ever flew it. And then they"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "trained another I can't remember how long, four or five months flying it all around Nevada and it worked fine. But"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "the problem is it's a it's a reverse engineered alien craft with a one of our"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "nuclear propulsion systems, right? Well, that wasn't refined because they couldn't figure out how to reverse"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "engineer the aliens. They they got it to work at times, but they couldn't"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "manipulate it to the way they they needed to for a human pilot to fly it. So, they had to put one of our uh"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "propulsion system in it. And it, you know, it malfunctioned, right? And they and they trained and"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "I'll summarize the rest of it. So, they were flying. Um, what's really important about this is that this is astonishing. So this if"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "there's an attorney who wants to go into federal court with me, we'll do this. He"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "is admitting he was the principal investigator on the cash lander event,"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "which you can Google it where there were these people critically injured and"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "hospitalized with radiation because there was a breach of the reactor that spewed all this radiation. And as this"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "UFO was descending outside Houston, it was spraying the people underneath with"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "this horrible and uh they virtually I mean several people almost died and I think later did"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "and he admits and he was the principal investigator for the Air Force office of special investigation that debriefed the"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "four occupants of it. Now, for years, they were very happy to let the public"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "think that was an alien craft and the aliens radiated those poor people. It"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "was not. It was the US Air Force covert programs. They flew out of Nevada,"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "meaning Area 51. So, this is the sort of thing that goes on and it's criminal."}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "Those people actually tried to go to court to sue the government and they simply said it this project doesn't"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "exist. We have no knowledge of it because the people that they were trying to sue in the mainstream government did"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "not. That's the nature of an unacknowledged special access project. And this is why we have to do"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "disclosure. We have to do it now. We have to create teams to make peaceful"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "contact that are non-militaristic with these civilizations. We must bring out these technologies to save the Earth's"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "environment. And we have to liberate humanity from the gang bangsters. That's what has to happen. It's a very tall"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "order and we need every single hand on deck to do it. And I hope you will join us in doing so. Now, we're going to take"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "a few questions or Yeah. I didn't know we were going to do Q&A."}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "If you had the ability, do it. I think we have till 3:30. Just 15 minutes."}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "Yeah, about 15 minutes. So, if people have any questions. Okay. What we're going to do is um we"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "just have 15 minutes. One question. Okay. Myself and one of the volunteers over there, we'll get you a mic and"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "we'll do the best we can. One question only. Okay. I'll start. Yeah. And just a question, not a saliloquy."}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "Right. Okay. Please. Hello. Thank you very very much for"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "being here. Um, so something like the"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "Corey Good stuff that we're all hearing about, the Galactic Wars that are going"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "on, those are all false flag. Those are people that have been convinced that"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "they're doing this. And yes, I mean, well, we have to understand they're witting and unwitting people in"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "this. Yeah. Okay. So, to the the the quick answer is without talking about personalities, I"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "really don't care. I like to talk about ideas and not people. Um"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "there is great value in presenting this man us versus them cosmic view. All"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "right, this is the cosmic expo, right? So the the truth is"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "many people have been in classified projects and being given experiences"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "through these electronic systems that interface with consciousness that are absolutely real to them. Now I remember"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "in 1994 we meeting with a man that in the 50s had invented an electronic system that that you could wear so that"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "you would be able to remote view and consciousness any place. But it also had turned it into a weapon system where"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "they could give someone a consciousness experience of anything they wanted. And"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "hello, we lost power here. Um, and and give any experience they wanted. And the"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "man I'm quoting here is a genius electronics engineer who was in his 80s and wanted to give the system to me. I"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "didn't want to touch it. And he said, basically, if we want you to have a personal conversation with your personal"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "God, Jesus, Buddha, Muhammad, whoever, you'll have it. You'll believe it's"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "real. You will pass a lie detector test that it is real. And that's how good it is. Verer von Brown on his deathbed in"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "addition to warning about the hosting of an alien attack actually said the only thing more frightening than that"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "scenario and that plan is the electronic warfare systems that interface with"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "thought and consciousness that can hoax experiences for people and that have been abused in this way. So what I'm"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "saying is I don't I'm not going to ascribe intent to anyone. I think a lot of this is very innocent. But I can say"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "that there are people who are either witting or unwittingly purveyors of a"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "narrative of conflict which is simply not there and for which there's not a"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "centil of objective evidence. Um the other point is that one of the problems"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "is the and I know I'm going to sound boring here. Nobody knows science. So"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "you know my uncle was Grman north of Grman designed the lunar module. I I mean, we're a science family. And I went"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "I go, \"Yeah, but people don't even understand how this thing works. They just want to know they can push a button and make something happen.\""}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "But when you start talking about interstellar and intergalactic technologies, the idea that there would"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "be wars, I mean, it's great for Star Wars and it's great for George Lucas. He's made billions and billions of"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "dollars on it. But the truth is, if you weaponize technologies that are a"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "million years more advanced than our hydrogen bombs, you're going to detonate that sucker once"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "on each side and everyone's gone. Your planet has turned into a pink mist floating through the cosmos. So, the"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "idea that there's going to be this sort of like cowboys and Indians doing this business,"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "it it's only because people don't understand what the science and technologies are behind transdimensional"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "interstellar travel. And so, you know, it it it makes for a sexy narrative. It it's great because it"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "can scare the hell out of people. Um, makes no sense any more than mutual assured destruction makes any sense."}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "Like Paul was talking about people in the Pentagon, let's get into a thermonuclear war with Russia. Well, the"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "thousands of thermonuclear weapons that are thousands of times more powerful than Hiroshima, you're not going to"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "survive that. The whole planet wouldn't. So there and those are technologies from the 40s and 50s. We're talking about"}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "technologies that are hundreds of thousands or millions of years more developed. So I think we have to look at"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "how does life evolve in the universe and this we're going to talk about this a lot tomorrow in the workshop that I'm going to do here from 3 until 7 is that"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "there is a morphagenic field propagation but there's a selective process that if you reach a certain point and you don't"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "make it to what Michaku calls a level one civilization that's peaceful and living in in harmony with its"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "environment and not destroying its planet you don't make it any further."}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "So, we're a level zero civilization. To get to a level one, which is the minimum"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "we have to get to to survive this current period of time, we have to"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "become peaceful on Earth and peaceful in space. And we have to bring out the technologies and we have to end the era"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "of endless war. That's it. It's it's a it's required. And other civilizations"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "have come this way before us. And if they don't get that right, they terminate. they destroy themselves."}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "So this is what I call the the selection of non-hostility"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "in interstellar civilizations that is built into the system of the of the"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "speed of light barrier because if you go beyond the speed of light and you're still have this consciousness of"}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "violence, you're not going to survive very long because of the nature of that kind of technology being weaponized."}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "There's a question on the question on the other side there I think. Hi Stephen and uh thank you so much for"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "this presentation. Um uh sort of a dual question. What is the difference between"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "or how do you tell the difference between a a man-made alien and a real alien and a man-made craft and a real"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "craft? Good question. Um sometimes you can't because the man-made ones have gotten"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "very good. But at a close proximity if you can see superructure meaning the the"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "air form the uh ET objects have are seamless and they have no visible parts."}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "The man-made ones do have visible parts. Like if you look at a Boeing, you'll see where the rivets are and you'll see and"}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "they are made and I'll get into this to tomorrow about what transdimensional"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "manufacturing is. how you create a uh kind of an infra ultrasonic"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "energy field that's in this dimension just beyond linear spaceime and"}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "materialize objects in totality out of not digging up ore and digging up metal"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "and cobbling it together but materializing it. Okay? And that's how they're craft and that's also how their"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "suits. So I'll give you another example. um the actual experience the because I"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "head up well we have tens of thousands of people now going all over the world doing close encounters of the fifth kind"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "making contact no one's ever been bothered by ETSs but we have been bothered by what you're asking about for"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "example we were near Joshua Tree once had this beautiful experience with this seamless craft and these beings that"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "partially materialized around us I'll show a picture of it tomorrow of this ambassador from the Andromeda galaxy"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "And then when we got back to our houses, one of the people, one of the groups that"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "was on my team were in a house near mine and they had this program life form climb up on the house and was banging on"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "the windows and it was like something like a not not a chakupal opera, whatever you call it. It was it was it"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "was like one of these crazy things, but it was like right out of Montalk or right out of but that was a man-made"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "uh creature meant to scare. And so one of the people in the house uh had a firearm, chased it off, and it ran off"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "into the desert, and there were a group of SUVs uh at the base of this desert road far away that that apparently it"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "went back to. And that was a man-made program life form that look it would fool everyone to be an ET. So the first"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "thing I train people who are on these C5 contact expeditions to be able to identify the difference and of course"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "there there's also an invasiveness to it, a frightening aspect to it. None of the ET experiences. So I I say well the"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "aliens are man-made. The ETs I I said we need to rename this conference so get"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "rid of alien. It's a xenophobic word. I hate it. Um but"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "sorry but that really we're talking about it's really very clear once you"}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "understand what to look for. There's also a sort of invasiveness. So if you become frightened"}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "in every case I can't think of an exception to this on our teams where we've had a craft or a beam get some very close. If someone is afraid they"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "stop and they back off. Whereas the military ones are going to come right at you buddy and they ain't going to back"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "off. So there's an invasiveness to the ones that are man-made. Um, and then"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "there are other characteristics. For example, one of the men who was on a naval ship when we were testing our"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "ICBMs shooting down range in at North Atlantic, South Atlantic, the captain"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "came to me with this story of how we shot down this ET craft. And to make a"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "long story short, the reason he called me was that when he retrieved the ejection pod that was seamless, and"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "there were these four 39-in tall ETs, and he said they were handsome little men. They look with the skin color of"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "Sicilians. Very politically incorrect, even in a red state, but never mind. And"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "uh no hair and I'm quoting. I mean, hey, it's the truth. And he said, \"But the"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "reason I'm calling you is that they had these this uniform on that was some type"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "of metallicized um cloth that was very fine, but there"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "were no buttons and zippers.\" And he was perplexed for 30 years. How in God's"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "name did they get in and out of them? Cuz you couldn't you could not get in and out of this uniform. There was no"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "way to get there was no none of this. So, and it was tight and there was no way to get over your head or take it"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "off. I said they take they have a electronic system where those items"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "materialize on and off. They would zip zip. He says, \"Oh, that's it.\" And then I explained to him what transdimensional"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "interstellar manufacturing consists of. So, ironically, a lot of these military guys"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "who approach me have just had one little picture of something and they come to me because they kind of know that I've been collecting the picture from a thousand"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:37", "text": "different sources. So, in a sense, we've become our own intelligence gathering operation with the disclosure project."}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "But, uh, that was the main reason he called. And that's another thing to look for is the clothing. Subtle things like"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "that. I mean, you wouldn't think to look for it, but it's very important. Another question. One more question back here."}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "I think we have time for one more question. Okay. back here. Yeah, sure. You and the boss"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "question I have is uh reading about um"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "operation high jump. Now bird in the end turns around and says we have to be very"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "careful because there's um objects that can fly from pole to"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:20", "text": "pole. You're familiar with this. Is that a u a flag that's gone up or is there"}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "something behind that that we're not supposed to know? Because bird was supposed to be down there in operation"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "high jump for 6 to 8 months. After 2 months, they scattered home with a tail between their legs. But there's objects"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "that are flying through the atmosphere from pole to pole. Well, fill me in. It's been it's been"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "well known that there one of the places that uh for decades now probably 60"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "years there have been covert military UFO looking bases that are on the poles"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:59", "text": "because they're very well hidden. It's also come to my attention recently from a man who's worked very closely with the"}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "United Nations and with the last CI director uh outgoing CI director Brennan"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "that that is apparently particularly the southern Antarctica is where a false"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "flag would be launched from so that these assets could be put up and get airborne enough they wouldn't be coming"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "from space but they would look like they're coming from space and there's very little detection uh in these very"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "remote areas on either pole up north or around the southern pole and that there"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "are uh underground facilities there. Um now there are other ones such as the"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "Pine Gap area of Australia. Um and I have a man who worked there as a physicist and you know that's a huge"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:47", "text": "underground facility. as a joint uh air force and NSA"}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "uh operation and that is where a lot of the program life forms are being manufactured by the way is in that area"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "of the central outback of Australia near Pine Gap and uh I interviewed a man who"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "worked in the facility and uh how it's structured and how it's laid out and"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "interestingly with uh this Air Force intelligence officer Dodie he um describes both the man-made"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "research and development sections of Area 51, but also describes in in detail"}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "the areas that are dealing with the true ET craft. And the two have no connection to each other. They're very compartmentalized, but he had uh access"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "to both. So, it's a very interesting that whole interview is amazing. It could have been a whole documentary, but"}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "um and you can see it. I mean, it's available. So, in closing, I'd like to just uh"}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "thank all of you for coming and for your support for Uncknowledged. I hope to see you tonight. We'll have more Q&A time"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "after the film. We'll have an hour of it. And I I I want you to just leave"}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "with this one thought. Don't look to your governments to fix this. Look to"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "yourselves and your neighbors. um look to what you can do because the"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "disclosure project you know I founded the global disclosure movement after I had exhausted"}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "every single possibility going through the government that you and I know about. So I have not a lot of confidence"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "in the governments as they currently exist because they are wholly owned assets of the cabal. I have a great deal"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "of faith in the average man and woman on earth to learn about this and do the right thing and come together. And if we"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "do that, we can create an entirely new civilization on Earth that will go on for hundreds of thousands of years in"}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "peace and abundance. Thank you. If you enjoyed this video, make sure to check out the next one right here on the"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "best of Dr. Steven Greer."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "I occasionally think how quickly our"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "differences worldwide would vanish if we"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "were facing an alien threat from outside"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "this world. in the CI document"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "officially released to me after I met"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "with the CIA director describing in the"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "50s of the CIA engaging Disney studios"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "to make cartoons about aliens so that"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "people would take it with levity,"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "ridicule it, create a lot of social"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "appropriately"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "taking UFOs into consideration. The"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "truth is so much more bizarre than the"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "fiction everyone's believing that no one"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "can get their minds around it. They"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "won't believe it. It hides itself."}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "Those projects are by definition"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "off the reservation and they are running"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "outside the rule of law and they are"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "unconstitutional. A priori they cannot"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "cite the rule of law to prosecute anyone"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "who defects from them."}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "Got it? All right. That's how I've"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "gotten all these military guys to speak."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "And sometimes it takes me five years of"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "handholding a colonel or someone at the"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "FAA or whoever to get them to actually"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "step forward name, rank, and serial"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "number. But for every one that you will"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "see in the Disclosure Project archive"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "that we have, and we have several dozen"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "on our YouTube channel, it's"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "YouTube.com/sisclosure."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "S as in serious, but S, the letter"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "disclosure."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "We have about 800 more or more than that"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "that have given me information,"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "documents, what have you about programs"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "they've been in, but they're terrified"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "to come forward. So what we really need"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "is an executive order that would say you"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "are hereby allowed to speak about these"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "projects since they have been run"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "illegally for 70 years"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "now in the absence of that and uh Daniel"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "Sheihan and I discussed this in some"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "length"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "we the people can tell folks that we"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "know and some of you may know people"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "who've worked in these projects that"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "they cannot be prosecuted under any"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "national security protocols if they are"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "exposing an operation which is at its"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "core an illegal operation. And I am here"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "to tell you the secrecy on this issue is"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "not only illegal and unconstitutional"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "but provably so. Because in and proof of"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "the pudding is this. I have published"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "and put out top secret documents that"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "were handed off to me by folks in the"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "CIA and NSA that have not been"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "declassified."}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "Why am I not in prison?"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "Yes, because I had an FBI guy threaten"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "me once and I said, \"Make my day."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "Put the put the bracelets on. My first"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "call isn't going to be to a shyer. It's"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "going to be to people I know in the"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "media, and you will have confirmed the"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "legitimacy of the document, and we will"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "contest it. And then we're going to hit"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "former President Bill Clinton with a"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "subpoena. We're going to hit the CIA"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "director I briefed with a subpoena. The"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "head of the Defense Intelligence Agency"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "that I met with for hours who had been"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "denied access to these projects, a"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "three-star general, Patrick Hughes. All"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "of them are going to have to testify"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "under oath that they were given"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "actionable intelligence by my team of"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "current operations at facilities at"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "Nellis Air Force Base so-called Area 51"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "at Dougway the pro the proving grounds"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "out in Utah the state-of-the-art"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "facility the area the Los Alamos"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "connected facilities Kirkland Air Force"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "Base and Sandia Labs and on and on and"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "on and on and they were all denied"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "access but they were in a commanding"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "position where they had had a need to"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "know. Therefore, the projects are"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "illegal."}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "And so this guy looked at me. He says,"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "\"Oh, you're crazy.\" I say, \"Yeah, like a"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "fox.\""}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "But"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "I mean, it is a little scary sometimes"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "dealing with these fascists. But when"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "the day is done,"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "they're no worse than gangbangers I had"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "to deal with in the ER. And my"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "Tech 9's coming in in your face. I'm"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "going to kill you. You know, so I'm"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "saying it's America, you know, this"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "happens every Saturday. So, um,"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "uh, so it really does. So, scathing"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "commentary. Um, should have my own"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "serious XM channel. Offend everybody, I"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "guess. Uh but what has happened over the"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "course of these 70 years is that the the"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "in the entrenched powers have become"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "more entrenched."}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "And this has caused us to have a time"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "being in a time right now where a lot of"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "people ask me when is official"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "disclosure going to happen? I said well"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "we're doing it. They go what do you"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "mean? I said we're doing it. Well what"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "do you mean? I said, 'We in charge of"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "doing it.' And they'll say, 'Well, what"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "the [ __ ] do you mean?"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "And I'll say, 'You don't get it. The"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "people who are inside that cabal"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "who want this out are asking us to do"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "That's why you're not in prison."}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "Got it. But not just me. You, all of us."}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "It has to be people's disclosure. We"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "have to do it. We have to recruit more"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "people to do it. We need more people to"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "defect. We need more people to get this"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "film in the hands of a billion people."}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "We need all of that. It's very"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "grassroots because when people have"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "tried to step off the reservation of"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "this secrecy too far, they've ended up"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "like Jack Kennedy."}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "They've ended up like Marilyn Monroe who"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "was killed because she was going to hold"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "a press conference. And that document is"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "in the new book. I I apologize the books"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "aren't here. Our publisher couldn't get"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "them into Canada. So much for free"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "trade. Um"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "um anyway, don't get me started on that."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "GM can move billions of dollars across"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "the border. We can't get it across"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "without red tape like you've never seen."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "Anyway, uh so what has happened is that"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "over the course of these last 70 years,"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "there are people who really are on the"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "side of the angels who are on the"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "inside. But when they have tried to step"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "out because they were made men, it's"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "like a mafia. They were made men inside"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "the system. Whereas I'm nobody. I'm a"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "country doctor who has worked in an ER"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "taking care of shootings and stabbings"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "and heart attacks and strokes and all"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "the fun stuff. And what ended up really"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "causing me to to to the light bulb went"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "off is that after I spent 1993 until"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "1998 briefing the who's who in our"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "government, your government, governments"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "around the world asking them to do it. I"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "realized a they didn't have the courage"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "to do it. B they didn't have access"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "control."}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "Now what do I mean by access control?"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "Well, I can brief this lovely lady here"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "about and read her in on a project and"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "she'll learn about it. That's what you"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "do with the president. But if she says"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "to me, I want to have control and I want"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "you to do X, Y, and Z with that pro"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "project. I'll say, no, ma'am, you don't"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "have control over it. We're controlling"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "it. Now, that has happened"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "over and over again to US presidents."}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "one that's in the movie. There was a guy"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "named President Jimmy Carter. Now, he's"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "probably not in a lot of your radar."}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "Many of you weren't alive when he was"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "president in the 70s. However, President"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "Carter when he was elected, the first"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "thing he did was ask outgoing CIA"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "director, but he was still CIA director"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "George Bush senior to be read into or"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "briefed on this subject. Guess what"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "happened?"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "Bush turned to him and said, \"I'm not"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "going to tell you anything. If you want"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "to learn something, get it from the"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "Congressional Research Service. See what"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "they can scrunch together for you.\" And"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "brushed him off. Now, of course, that's"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "illegal."}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "It was a power play. They did not want"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "Jimmy Carter, who ran as one of his"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "campaign promises, to end UFO secrecy"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "and open the UFO files because he had"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "had a sighting of one when he was"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "governor of Georgia."}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "and Carter kept pushing, put together a"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "White House study group. They were going"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "to contract with Stanford Research"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "International, SRRI. SRRI had some"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "people who in the black world approach"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "them from the Pentagon and were"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "threatened with losing all their"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "contracts with the Department of Defense"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "and they denied to do the project for"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "the US president."}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "That's a true story. Then what happened?"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "He kept pushing"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "and eventually a couple men came into"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "the private quarters of the White House"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "and said, \"Uh, President Carter, if you"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "would like to complete your first term"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "as president, you'll keep your goddamn"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "mouth shut about this issue.\" Just like"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "that. Now, that happened and we know"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "that happened because I know the Carter"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "people in the Carter family and in the"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "Carter Center. So what what you end up"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "with a picture of is you might know"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "about the issue, you may drill down on"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "it, but it doesn't mean that you're"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "going to have control over these"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "operations. So the command and control"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "system that everyone thinks exists on"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "normal things, intercontinental"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "ballistic missiles, blowing up Iraq,"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "that's in place, the stuff Snowden"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "revealed, that was being overseen by the"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "president and the intelligence"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "community. This is not just a normal"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "black project. These are unagnowledged"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "special access projects and personnel."}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "And the way they operate is that if"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "you're not in the compartment, you speak"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "of it to nobody. And if you do, you are"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "assassinated."}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "Now, one of my adviserss for many years"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "during this turbulent time,"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "the whole thing's been turbulent."}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "And he he he said to me, he said, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "I was in one of these projects. It was"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "about a $3 billion"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "unagnowledged special access project."}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "This is one project, $3 billion US. And"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "we were taken into an underground"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "facility."}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "Everyone had their weapons taken."}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "Everyone had their recorders, watches,"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "anything electronic. One guy went down"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "with a sidearm and went down, pulled a"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "bullet out of the chamber and said,"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "\"If any of you speak about the existence"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "of this project to anyone not in this"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "room in this skiff, secure"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "communication,"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "intelligence or information facility,"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "this bullet will find you"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "and you're a dead man walking.\" Now,"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "this is a very serious naval commander"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "who I know very well and I've talked to"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "many other men and women who have been"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "in similar positions. So, that is how"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "unagnowledged special access projects"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "operate. It's like the mafia. You you"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "blow the whistle on the dawn, they're"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "going to whack you. So, this is a very"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "nasty sort of way of controlling things."}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "You break the law. You deny access to"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "people who want to get the truth out."}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "You threaten them. You defame them. You"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "engage Disney studios to make cartoons"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "about the subject. So, it's ridiculed."}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "Did you know that we have a document"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "that in the CIA document officially"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "released to me after I met with the CIA"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "director describing in the 50s of the"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "CIA engaging Disney Studios to make"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "cartoons about aliens."}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "You see, so that people would take it"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "with levity, ridicule it, create a lot"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "of social appropriate"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "if you are seriously taking UFOs into"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "consideration."}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "So this is what we're going to talk"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "about a great deal at my workshop"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "tomorrow is the structure of how that"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "has happened and the extent to which the"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "UFO subculture was the primary target"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "and still is of the disinformation and"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "counter intelligence operations. It is"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "the number one because how else are"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "people finding out about this? The"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "internet and the UFO subculture."}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "It's not a pretty story but you need to"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "know it now. I want to go before too"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "much time passes to this next slide"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "by the general Douglas MacArthur."}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "Hello. The nations of the world will"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "have to unite for the next war will be"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "an interplanetary war. The nations of"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "the earth must someday make a common"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "front against attack by people from"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "other planets."}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "General Douglas MacArthur."}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "That was in 1955."}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "Do you want the Q&A to be"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "15 minutes? Okay."}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "That was 1955"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "October. I was 3 or four months old."}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "And they already had this plan"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "for a false flag or false INW"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "threat from outer space that Verer von"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "Brown later spoke of. And now let's"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "listen to Ronald Reagan at the United"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "Nations."}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "I occasionally think how quickly our"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "differences worldwide would vanish if we"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "were facing an alien threat from outside"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "this world."}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "Yes. The only way we can live together"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "in peace is that if we're at war with"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "someone else."}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "I mean, this is, you know, of course,"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "batshit crazy. But we we have something"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "here that is what is called an"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "acculturation process where over many"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "decades there have been leaders that"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "have been convinced that we have a"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "threat and that the solution to that"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "threat or incursion from other"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "civilizations is to militarize the"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "relationship. Now, interestingly, the"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "same people who benefit from say hoaxing"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "the Gulf of Tonkan event in Vietnam in"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "Vietnam, which ex stampeded President"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "Johnson into escalating Vietnam into the"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "quagmire it became that cost trillions"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "of dollars and hundreds of millions of"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "lives if you count Vietnamese and"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "Southeast Asians as living humans, which"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "they are. um or the famous weapons of"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "mass destruction that Saddam Hussein had"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "which were to justify us going into Iraq"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "which gave us ISIS. It's all hoaxed. And"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "so you have people who are continuously"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "creating hoax scenarios."}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "And this has actually got a very"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "military sounding bureaucratic term. And"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "it's called a deceptive indication and"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "warning or or a false INW. And that's"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "what the pop cults would call a false"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "flag. And these are concocted in their"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "research projects all the time. and"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "they're put on a story board years,"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "sometimes decades in advance."}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "And the big one is the alien invasion"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "one."}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "And so through the UFO subculture,"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "Hollywood, the media, and the internet,"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "there has been a very well-funded and"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "clever disinformation and"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "counterintelligence operation that was"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "launched in the 50s to convince people"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "of what you just heard General Douglas"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "MacArthur and Ronald Reagan decades"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "later say was necessary."}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "Now, let's pause for a moment on this."}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "Just for a moment."}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "You're an interstellar civilization,"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "which means you're also"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "transdimensional."}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "And what do I mean by that? It means"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "that you can create an electromagnetic"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "field around this"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "this object this phone and have it its"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "angular momentum of all its atoms and"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "subatomic particles alter where it drops"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "out of or rises out of in a higher"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "frequency this 3D into another dimension"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "which is not solid matter and is very"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "closely approximates what you experience"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "when you're in a lucid flying dream,"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "so-called astral energy. We'll get into"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "this tomorrow in great depth. Now,"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "that's done electronically."}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "Now, those technologies"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "mean you can go faster than the speed of"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "light because you're dropping out of"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "linear spaceime. So, you're not going"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "from say Arcturus to here in a line at"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "some huge speed. You're simply dropping"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "out of spaceime and going boink boink."}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "Now, communication systems are even"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "faster because there's no coefficiency"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "of drag of the residua of the material"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "object. It takes a little bit of time."}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "Even if you're going interdimensional,"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "but did I just lose you?"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "No. But when you're talking about"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "communication that is instantaneous"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "because they have devices that are like"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "this that instead of having a radio"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "frequency bouncing around"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "Allah 1844 which is all this is right"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "signals and microwave signals."}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "They're going from thought to here. So"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "you think to it and it does it and"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "communicates and they are thought"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "actuated. So what is thought? Well, it's"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "there is a quanta of thought and it can"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "be quantified and this is why we're"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "going to go through a huge amount of"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "this tomorrow in the workshop because"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "that's what you have to understand. You"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "cannot understand the actual"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "extraterrestrial phenomenon without"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "understanding this. Now let's imagine"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "that these civilizations therefore are"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "maybe 10 to the 6th to 10 to the 8th"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "maybe more years more developed than we"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "are hundreds of thousands to millions."}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "Their weapon capabilities with that"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "level of technological prowess would"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "render any conflict more laughable than"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "mutual assured destruction. It would be"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "point set match over in a fraction of a"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "nancond. It would be now however it"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "sells a lot of books and movies and"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "alien and scary stories to present that"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "there's an existential threat. And there"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "has been a plan since the 50s to"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "convince the public that the next big"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "threat we have to spend trillions of"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "dollars to fight is in space."}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "And that's why I made Unagnowledged. I"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "made the movie Unagnowledged to expose"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "this. Sort of like Paul Rivere"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "screaming, \"Yeah, the British are"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "coming.\" Because this is not something"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "theoretical. I have met with people"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "since the early 90s who have been on"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "policy boards where they said we can hit"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "a button bang"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "launch events that 99.999%"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "of the public and the National Military"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "Command Center would think was alien and"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "it's 100% man-made and it will fool"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "everyone. And this man had been on an"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "inter agency committee with NSA, CIA,"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "Air Force, what have you in 1974."}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "And he said that it was fully"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "operational long before he was on that"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "committee."}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "So people have to understand"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "that we need to take a deep breath and"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "look at what kind of manipulation has"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "gone on to stampede the masses into fear"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "because in order to have and here's is"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "right out of the Nazi playbook. In order"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "to get the public to go along they have"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "to do you have to terrify the populace"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "like 9/11 did and like Hitler did in"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "Germany. But you have to have an enemy."}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "Well, how do you have an enemy? You have"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "to have an acculturation program that"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "begins to put out all kinds of false and"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "defaming and scary scenarios that you're"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "creating under these deceptive INWs or"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "false flag procedures"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "and convincing the public that they're"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "actually something else that they're say"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "in that case alien. But they're not"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "alien. They're man-made. And what blows"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "people's minds is that when I learned of"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "this in 1992, '93, '94"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "very good sources, I went, well, this"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "has to be exposed. And this intelligence"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "official said, oh yes, you can speak of"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "it. It'll mean you're blacklisted."}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "You'll be the most hated person in the"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "UFO space."}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "And on top of it, it is so bizarre."}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "The truth is so much more bizarre than"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "the fiction everyone's believing that no"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "one can get their minds around it. They"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "won't believe it. It hides itself."}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "It's hiding itself"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "to wit."}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "People don't realize that we had fully"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "operational"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "UFOs, man-made anti-gravities. October"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "1954,"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "that was when we mastered gravity"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "control."}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "a man who worked at the naval research"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "labs and it was the highest ranking"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "scientist there and by the way that's"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "the largest defense labs and it's in"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "Washington. I've been in those"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "facilities and he was on my team for"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "many years. He since passed away of"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "prostate cancer, so I feel free to speak"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "of this. And and uh Rick Foch was his"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "name. And he said to me, you know, I was"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "in the vault and saw the documentation"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "that in October 1954, we mastered"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "gravity control. And so since the"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "mid50s, there have been two phenomena"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "going on that have been conflated as"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "one. man-made UFOs that deceive people"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "as being alien."}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "They then began to realize that if they"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "started staging other types of events,"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "they could scare the hell out of people"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "and they began to develop the ability to"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "stage things like abductions and"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "mutilations."}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "Now, the All right. Now, have people had"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "actual contact with ETSs? Yes, I have no"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "doubt. I have. But they began to also do"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "this other program and years ago, you"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "know, I didn't know any of this. I"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "remember in 1990 writing to um or early"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "early 90s and I was just starting out in"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "this and I'm a doctor. I mean, I I"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "wasn't that versed in all this. Um"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "and I wrote to uh the late Bud Hopkins"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "Intruders Foundation and a man called me"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "up and he said um oh yes he says there"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "are many people who come to our meetings"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "that have been actually abducted by what"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "look like aliens but they're being"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "controlled by Air Force and they're kind"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "of robotic"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "things and they look like what you"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "normally hear described a gray or this"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "or that. And he says, \"But we don't"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "allow those accounts to get published."}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "We sanitize those out.\""}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "And I said, \"Why?\" He says, \"I'm being"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "directed to sanitize those out.\""}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "And then I found out that that operation"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "was being funded by Prince Hans Adam Ban"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "Likenstein, the banking family that"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "funded Adolf Hitler and is part of this"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "cabal."}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "How do I know that? because I met with"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "Prince Hansen von Likenstein and he told"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "me"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "I don't deal with rumor and what I'll"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "tell you is from firsthand. So I began"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "to piece together this mosaic, this sort"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "of like puzzle of well what part of this"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "is real and what part of it is a false"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "flag? And it turns out the dominant"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "database on the UFO subject are the"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "false flag and which is predictable"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "because they have to do to ETSs what"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "they did to Jews"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "during the Third Reich. They have to be"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "demonized. You have to hate someone to"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "pay the cost in blood and treasure to go"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "to interplanetary war, which is what"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "Douglas MacArthur was calling for."}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "So this is the game that's being played."}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "It's a very big game and I tell people"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "getting my minds mind around this is"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "like playing chess in 38 dimensions and"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "but that's what I set out to do. Now"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "most people don't want to hear this"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "because they have fixed belief systems"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "around the nexus of disinformation known"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "as ufology."}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "But I think it's important that we begin"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "to put into our differential diagnosis,"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "as we say in medicine, some things that"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "you need to understand that there are ET"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "events, there are man-made events, and"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "then there are events that are neither."}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "And those are ones that originate from"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "another dimension, but that are neither"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "strictly extraterrestrial from another"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "planetary system or human. And those are"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "all being conflated together. And this"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "conflation has been done deliberately"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "because in the confusion people lose"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "their way. And in that chaos, they lose"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "their way. And they don't know which is"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "real, which is from another dimension,"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "but not ET, and which is man-made. And"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "the man-made stuff is so good that it's"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "astonishingly good. I mean, it's good."}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "And I've talked to a number of"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "operations uh directors who have been on"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "man-made abduction squads who have told"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "me exactly how they operate. And they're"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "really happy for the UFO community to"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "then report that out as an actual alien"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "event."}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "But he says it's not hard to figure out"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "the difference. If you see an object at"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "close range and there are parts to it,"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "it's man-made. If you see a gray or some"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "creature like that that's moving very"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "robotically like this towards you,"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "that's man-made. I know where they make"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "them. I know what's in their neural"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "complexes. I know the men who've"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "designed them. And they're nano biio"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "machines."}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "Okay, they are. Now, are there actual"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "ETs? Yes. Are there fake ones? Yes. But"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "you have to know there there's if you"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "don't know there are two things to even"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "ask the question about, you're not going"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "to ask the question. You've got to begin"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "to ask the question. I question"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "everything. Someone said to me, \"Wow,"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "you're a real skeptic about most.\" I"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "say, \"Yeah, with very good reason"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "because most of the information out"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "there is"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "contrived"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "disinformation that has been designed by"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "the intelligence community to create the"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "platform or the foundation for World War"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "II."}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "If you enjoyed this video, make sure to"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "check out the next one right here on the"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "best of Dr. Steven Greer."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "This documentary wasn't made for you"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "all. It was made for 7.2 billion people"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "out there don't know anything about"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "this. You know, after you have a what"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "half a million or a million cases that"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "are in the UFO reporting system, we have"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "enough evidence. Believe it or not, as"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "hard ass as General George S. Patton"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "was, he wanted this technology developed"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "quickly and released to the public"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "because he saw the humanitarian value of"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "it. a new radar system they switched on"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "that caused their uh these ET craft to"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "collide into each other and crash. But"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "they were not just normal radar that did"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "It's a pleasure to be here. And of"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "course, many of you thought that I was"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "here for this presentation or the"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "premiere. I was here for Paul"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "But I would like to thank Victor and"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "Joanne in the conference for inviting me"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "here and all of our volunteers who are"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "here. And Lara, thank you. It's your"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "birthday today. Happy birthday. Mine is"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "next week."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "Any other cancers out there?"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "So what I'm going to take you through is"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "uh sort of an expansion of what uh the"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "honorable Paul Helier uh just has shared"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "with you and go into some granular"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "detail on the evolution of secrecy and"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "what we can do about it. Um there is as"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "you all know and everyone in this room"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "that you're not strangers to this but"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "some of the thousands of people on the"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "webinar may be new to this concept is"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "that there has been a hundred years of"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "illegal activity uh not 70 years since"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "Roswell and since the early 19s"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "uh and probably before we have had"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "breakthroughs in technology which I"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "rather kindly call the gang bangsters"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "and cartels of various types, oil, what"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "have you, have kept away from the"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "public. Most people don't know that in"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "the 1920s, Tatowns and Brown was doing"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "experiments with high voltage systems"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "where you could have a crystallin"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "structure and with the correct"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "electronic signal going into it, have"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "that object levitate."}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "Sounds familiar like a UFO. 1920s."}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "This was reproduced in Germany in the"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "Koski Frost experiment in 19 uh late"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "1920s 28-29. Of course, T- Towns and"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "Brown's work was subsumed by covert"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "programs eventually and the Rand"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "Corporation."}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "And what we are looking at today is a"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "civilization on earth that is dying"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "because it has been strangled to death."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "And we are 100 years of lost evolution"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "and of lost development as a people and"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "this is our chance to get it back. Now a"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "lot of people say why did you do this"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "film unagnowledged which by the way"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "those of you who contributed to that it"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "was crowdfunded raise your hand"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "everybody give a applause for the"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "that's how we made it okay so the that"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "that documentary which some people go"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "well you know you didn't go far enough"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "in it I said this documentary wasn't"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "made for you all it was made for 7.2 two"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "billion people out there don't know"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "anything about this. Okay? So you if"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "you're going to be compassionate, you"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "can't stay in your bubble. You need to"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "go out of your bubble and you need to"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "reach out to the rest of the world. Now"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "we're very fortunate that we have a"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "major distributor for that film, uh, The"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "Orchard, and that is now I think we're"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "eight weeks on being number one on"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "iTunes worldwide."}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "[Applause]"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "I think I think Richard Gear was miffed"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "when his new movie came out and we beat"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "them."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "No relationship. He's gear. I'm Greer."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "So, so"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "the what is really important about"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "unagnowledged is that and I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "just encapsulate it. You're going to see"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "it tonight and then we're going to have"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "a Q&A after."}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "um after the film is sh sh sh sh sh sh"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh shown. It's"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "really an attempt to put together a"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "taste of the evidence that's compelling"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "all from government sources, military"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "witnesses, government witnesses,"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "documents, etc. But then go beyond the"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "let's call it the ephemerra, the sort of"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "phenomenon of passing events and"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "evidence. you know, after you have a"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "what half a million or a million cases"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "that are in the UFO reporting system, we"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "have enough evidence, what's the secrecy"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "about, but more importantly, how could"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "they do this? How is it structured? And"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "the name of the film comes from the"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "first word that I learned of a special"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "project category in the early 1990s. And"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "this was just before I was briefing the"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "director of the CIA. And unlike Paul"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "Helier, he went on to not only defame"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "me, but the night the meeting took place"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "and he took a golden parachute out of"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "the directorate of the CIA onto the uh"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "chief counsel for Booze Allen Hamilton,"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "the contractor that Snowden worked for"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "for the NSA. And of course he knew what"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "side uh that his bread was buttered on"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "and did not want it to be known when I"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "initially after he was out of office uh"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "disclosed the nature of that meeting."}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "But that's just a side parenthesis. If"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "we had everyone of as I said before of"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "the integrity of Paul Helier, we"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "wouldn't be in the world we have today."}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "Now, what has happened is that the"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "unagnowledged special access projects,"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "which is the proper name for a super"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "secret black project that is running"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "subrosa, beneath the surface, and"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "illegally, is that those evolved over"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "the last century and they took on a huge"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "increase back in the era of the Roswell"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "event. Um, just a point of of note,"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "Operation Paperclip was actually uh run"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "by OSS and OSS evolved and became the"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "CIA."}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "Now, I know something about this, having"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "briefed CIA directors and put briefings"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "together for them. Now, this Operation"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "Paperclip wasn't just because we wanted"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "the best and brightest German minds who"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "were very much many of them Nazis,"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "but we wanted the technology."}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "And I'm going to share something that's"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "a little bit astonishing. Um, haven't"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "shared this in any real detail yet, but"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "I think I should. And about six months"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "ago, I had a seven-hour meeting with the"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "son of Senator John Warner, who I had"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "fingered as a member of this cabal many"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "years ago. And Senator John Warner, who"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "was a uh not Mark Warner currently of"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "Virginia, he's the Senator John Warner"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "of Virginia who's retired. He had been a"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "under secretary of the navy and had been"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "uh very connected to these classified"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "projects uh from early on in his life."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "He married"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "Paul Melon's daughter. Now the Melon"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "family, Paul Melon"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "around the time, one of the few"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "billionaires in the world at that time"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "went over in 1945"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "to Germany with General George S. Hatton"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "and some others to retrieve a partially"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "functioning Nazi anti-gravity system"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "that they were working on. And that was"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "their secret weapon that they were going"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "to win the war with. Uh but they didn't"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "get it perfected before we got the"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "atomic bomb. And the rest, as they say,"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "is history. However, an interesting side"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "note to this now, I learned this uh that"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "that Senator Warner's son, who's about"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "my age now, a little bit younger, said"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "to me, you know, Dr. Greer, um I have to"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "admit that my family are fascists. He"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "just flat out said it completely. He and"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "and he is not but he said that he's come"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "to realize that this is very much the"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "case and the people that they have"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "worked with are also fascists. They are"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "not interested in a democratic society"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "and an open and free society. So what"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "happened at this point is believe it or"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "not as hard ass as General George S."}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "Patton was he wanted this technology"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "developed quickly and released to the"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "public because he saw the humanitarian"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "value of it. Free energy,"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "no surface roads,"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "no pollution,"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "etc. and so on. They killed George S."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "Patton. He was assassinated and this is"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "known by the Melon family. Now because"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "of this"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "what has what happened and this is 45"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "before Roswell a chill went through the"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "what I call the white hats"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "in the military industrial complex"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "because not all of them you can't paint"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "all of them with the same broad stroke."}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "There are many of them who wanted this"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "to come out and were stopped. And the"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "ones who wanted to maintain the status"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "quo predictably are the ones who benefit"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "from the status quo of endless war and"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "the centralized gang bankster system."}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "Now these folks work handinand glove"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "with large banking cartels and oil"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "cartels. Uh David Rockefeller was"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "mentioned earlier and yet there were"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "people in those families who were trying"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "to defect. For example, Lawrence"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "Rockefeller, an early supporter of"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "disclosure and the man who set up the"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "briefings for Bill and Hillary Clinton"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "and the materials we put together in the"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "'90s, he was opposed to this secrecy. He"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "wanted to make open peaceful contact"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "with these civilizations and he knew we"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "were in trouble. And so Lawrence"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "Rockefeller, however, could only go so"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "far. You know, I recount this story. Got"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "to stay way back here. Uh, I recount"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "this story of being at the Rockefeller"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "ranch and I'm out there and late at"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "night with and he's in his 80s, mid 80s"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "and he says to me, \"Well, we need"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "someone to head this up.\" I'm a doctor"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "working full-time in an ER. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "we're working, you know, my short shifts"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "were 15 hours, our long ones were 27,"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "and I had four little children, and I"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "had, you know, I said, \"Well, this is"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "ridiculous.\" And he said, I said,"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "\"Lawrence, you're old and you're rich"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "and you're a Rockefeller. Why don't you"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "do it?\" He said, \"Oh, no.\" He said, \"My"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "family are already jumping up and down"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "on my I won't say what he said, toes."}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "Because I'm even hosting this meeting.\""}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "And I said, \"Well, why is that?\" He"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "says, \"They don't want this to come out,"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "the other part of this clan.\" So, this"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "is, you know, people make these"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "simplistic sort of conspiracy. These are"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "the craziest things I've ever seen. You"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "can't be near You can't be near the"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "podium without"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "I had to be a robot. I never seen such"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "things ever. Um,"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "and so what happened and in this 7-hour"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "meeting with uh Senator Warner's son at"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "the Watergate, ironically, where where"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "they have a home or two homes joined"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "together, a massive condo complex. And"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "we were talking about this and I said,"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "\"Well,"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "to what extent has this been known in"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "your family and do you had did you get"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "confirmation directly?\" He says, \"Yes,"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "Paul Melon, as he got older, had had a"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "few too many drinks once and spilled the"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "guts, the beans, all of it to Senator"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "Warner's son and confirmed that in fact"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "we had technologies we'd gotten from the"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "Nazis and had been studying and that"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "those were actually under development."}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "But along with those technology are the"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "things like this disintegrator weapon"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "that Mr. Helier referred to that are"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "scalar electromagnetic systems. Those"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "are not new. Those were developed in the"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "early part of the 20th century and those"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "were weaponized so that when these ET"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "craft were checking out what these"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "murderous monkeys known as humans were"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "doing at at near Roswell, they switched"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "it on. Bang. Three of them crashed. Two"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "were retrieved very quickly. The third"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "one wasn't found till 1951 or 52. So"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "when and people think well many many"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "people in the in the the media said well"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "you know what would interstellar"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "civilizations not be able to fly in our"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "atmosphere. They were flying in our"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "atmosphere and then were being surprised"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "targeted with scalar or longitudinal"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "electromagnetic weapons that were early"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "iterations of what we have today. uh and"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "that is why they crashed. And if you"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "look at the FBI memo that's in the film"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "Unagnowledged, you will see uh if you"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "read it carefully from a field officer"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "to Jay Edgar Hoover that it says that"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "apparently the discs crashed near"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "Roswell because of a new and I love the"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "euphemisms that they use radar system."}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "All right, it's electromagnetic bouncing"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "things off of objects is radar. a new"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "radar system they switched on that"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "caused their uh these ET craft to"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "collide into each other and crash. But"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "they were not just normal radar that did"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "this. So we have to look back now of"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "over 70 years and this this is the 70-y"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "year anniversary of Roswell of actions"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "being taken by humans which if we aren't"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "if we don't get this under control could"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "lead to exactly what we have been warned"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "about and I want to go through a few"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "clips some of these you will see not all"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "of them in the film penet first one I"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "want to play is the one that was"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "referenced by Mr. Helier by Eisenhower."}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "No sound"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "by the military."}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "We must guard against the acquisition of"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "unwarranted influence whether sought or"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "unsought by the military industrial"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "complex."}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "And then play the next one. That was in"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "1961."}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "This is in their own government with his"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "own air force,"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "his own navy,"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "his own fundraising mechanism."}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "There you go."}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "And the ability to pursue his own ideas"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "of the national interest,"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "free from all checks and balances,"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "and free from the law itself."}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "That's a US senator saying that, not a"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "conspiracy theorist at a UFO conference."}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "and then I want to play the next one"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "which is put up the next quote from"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "Admiral Rosco Helen Keater, the first"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "director of the CIA."}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "It is time for the truth to be brought"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "out. Behind the scenes, highranking Air"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "Force officers are soberly concerned"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "about the UFOs."}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "But through official secrecy and"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "ridicule, many citizens are led to"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "believe the unknown flying objects are"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "nonsense."}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "I urge immediate congressional action to"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "reduce the dangers from secrecy about"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "unidentified flying objects. CIA"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "director Vice Admiral Rosco Hillener."}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "Make note that was the first CIA"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "director at the time of Roswell. The CIA"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "was formed within weeks of the Roswell"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "event. He in a letter to Congress that"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "was later printed in the New York Times"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "called for this congressional oversight"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "and he did not talk about the dangers of"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "the UFOs. He talked about the dangers of"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "the secrecy around UFOs just like"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "Eisenhower did. It's a it's a nuance"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "with a huge distinction."}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "So on the one hand,"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "we had interstellar civilizations"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "surveilling our most sensitive atomic"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "weapons facilities"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "and we were taking actions to down them"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "and destroy them. And there have been"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "hundreds of these objects that have been"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "down, not a couple, hundreds. In fact,"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "there's a man on my team who was at Fort"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "Wuka, which is Army Intelligence"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "Headquarters, ironically, out near"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "Tombstone, Arizona, where they had in an"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "underground facility that he worked in,"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "where there were nine separate ET craft"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "of different types from different"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "civilizations that had been down, some"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "of them in Mexico, and then brought back"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "up across the border. And in the morg"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "were just, you know, dozens and dozens"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "of ET bodies that were recovered."}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "um and had been in studied and in"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "storage. So, this is not something"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "that's a a everyday occurrence, but it"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "isn't that rare, but it's incredibly"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "dangerous because after I began briefing"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "people like the director of the CIA and"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "presidents and minister of defense heads"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "in other countries and members of the"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "Senate Intelligence Committee and on and"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "on and generals and admirals at the"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "Pentagon, I learned that the nature of"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "these unagnowledged special access"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "projects were that they were keeping"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "most of those guys in the dark about"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "what they were doing. And this is the"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "most shocking thing of all. And this is"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "why Eisenhower said, \"Beware the"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "military-industrial complex. It will"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "become a threat to our way of life. The"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "secrecy, excessive secrecy will"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "undermine our democracy.\" And actually,"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "at the time he said that, that was his"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "last farewell address to the nation, to"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "America as he left office in January of"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "1961."}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "it had already happened. He wasn't"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "saying this might happen. It had already"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "happened because between the 1945 time"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "period and 1960, there essentially had"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "been a massive coup d'eta by very"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "cleverly"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "moving all these technologies and all"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "these operations in a program that are"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "unacknowledged and beyond the reach of"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "the US president. And even if the"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "president knows about it beyond the"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "control of it, an Air Force officer I"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "met with who flew with John F. Kennedy"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "on Air Force One told me, and I have a"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "tape recording of this interview, it's"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "very interesting. um back in the '9s"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "when I interviewed him, he said, \"The"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "president brought this issue up and he"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "said to me"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "that he knew about it and he had been"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "briefed on the extraterrestrial matter,"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "but he said, and I'm quoting, \"The whole"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "matter is out of my hands and I don't"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "know why.\" Now, this is the president of"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "the United States and this should this"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "should scare the hell out of everybody"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "and I'll tell you why. Because we live"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "in a world, it's sort of like the Truman"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "Show. You remember that movie with Jim"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "Carrey where you know he finally"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "realizes he's on a set and it's all"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "fake. We live in this world of sort of"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "makebelieve and I call it makebelieve"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "politics, makebelieve media news,"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "makebelieve science, makebelieve"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "history, make it's all make believe"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "and the truth is never spoken about and"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "very rarely and when you do speak the"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "truth you're going to be attacked and"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "pillaried uh as as I have been and I'm"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "sure others of you who've spoken out in"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "your communities may have been. But the"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "reason the secrecy has been enforced and"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "created in this unagnowledged special"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "access project, the mechanism of the"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "secrecy, we're not talking about normal"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "top secret TSSCI, top secret special"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "compartmented information or"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "intelligence. We're talking about a"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "level of secrecy where if you had an"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "organizational chart, you would have the"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "president of the United States at about"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "level 21. In fact, I've seen this chart."}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "This is at about level 43, 44."}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "So, and never mind, you're a prime"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "minister. So,"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "no offense. I mean, no offense to any of"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "you. Um, I know spoken like a real"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "Yankee. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "but"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "and the same is true for our secretaries"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "of defense. uh you know Gordon Cooper"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "who was in our film unagnowledged in an"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "interview and you've seen many of you"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "have seen this clip uh I was what you"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "have not seen and what most of you do"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "not know is that some years ago I was"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "given a presentation and so was he to"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "the Federalist society a very"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "conservative"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "old guard constitutionalist organization"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "and you see it a lot in the media um in"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "Washington and I was in a ballroom"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "larger than this and It was their annual"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "gathering. And before I spoke, Gordon"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "Cooper came up to me and my wife and"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "said, uh, you know, the Secretary of"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "Defense a couple years ago, who at the"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "time was Cohen, Secretary of Defense"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "Cohen under Clinton, had asked me"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "personally to give him all the specific"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "data of what happened when his crew"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "filmed a UFO landing in broad daylight"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "uh, out on one of the dry lake beds at"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "Edwards Air Force Base, I believe in"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "195. 56"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "and cuz the Secretary of Defense wanted"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "to see that footage and wanted to get to"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "the bottom of this and so astronaut"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "Gordon Cooper gave the Secretary of"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "Defense all the granular actionable"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "intelligence you would need to retrieve"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "that information and then got back later"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "to Gordon Cooper and the Secretary of"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "Defense said I'm denied access"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "apparently because that has disappeared"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "into some black hole. Now, this is the"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "Secretary of Defense of the United"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "States. So, I tell these stories not"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "because they're just apocryphal or or"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "sort of uh you know, but it it shows a"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "pattern that's very important from a"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "legal point of view and that is and this"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "is where I would differ a little bit"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "with with my friend uh uh Mr. Helier."}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "We don't need to rescend the National"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "Security Act. What we need to do is to"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "violate illegal projects that are using"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "the National Security Act illegally."}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "Let me go through that again. Get your"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "mind around this."}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "If if an operation is illegal and is"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "lying to the president and to Congress"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "or to your parliament and your prime"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "minister or your minister of defense cuz"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "as minister minister of defense head he"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "wasn't read into the projects that I"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "know are going on in Canada today and at"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "the time he was mod head those projects"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "are by definition"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "off the reservation and they are running"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "outside the rule of law and they are"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "unconstit constitutional a priori. They"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "cannot cite the rule of law to prosecute"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "anyone who defects from them. If you"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "enjoyed this video, make sure to check"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "out the next one right here on the best"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "of Dr. Steven Greer."}]

[{"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "Take a look at this. We're in deep meditation. There's a medical doctor from Peru who's on the team in Florida."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "And this thing comes in, wraps around her, goes up to her third eye and crown"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "chakra. I call it the cosmic spermatzoa. It almost looks like, but look at it come in. This is a still camera, high"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "quality, a $5,000 state-of-the-art camera. And this comes in, wraps around"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "her, and goes up. So very beautiful. This happens all the time when we're out"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "there. You don't always get a good photo of it, but when you do, you really see. And here's the same expedition. And this"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "light beam is on the sand in front of me. We're just setting up. Looks like there's a halo. It's actually an energy"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "field, teleportation energy field. And you'll see it has two eyes, the torso."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "Very abstract. See the eyes very just barely. It's like a crystallin being in"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "this dimension. This would be a beautiful piece of art in a gallery, wouldn't it, Michael, for this art"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "gallery thing we want to do. Stunning"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "Outer Banks. I mean, we're going quick through these because I can't pause. Now, this we're at a site. Look at this."}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "How close? 20 ft. 30 ft. It lights up the tree. So people say, \"What is that?\""}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "That is an entire extraterrestrial spacecraft coming into this dimension. All we're seeing of it is the leading"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "edge of it bumping up into this dimension and they're letting us know they're there and then they're just hovering dematerialized for the rest of"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "the night. Here it is. This was visible with the naked eye."}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "And I mean stunning in front of the tree. These are not artifacts or or you"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "know what have you. This is amazing story. It would take a couple hours to"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "go through all of it. Um we're you can hear the detector just went off. Hear"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "it. That's Walter."}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "I affectionately call him Walter. And uh there's a ship out on the ocean."}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "There's a highway here. Watch this."}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "Jesus. Did you hear beep beep when it came? Look at the size of this thing. It was"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "orange. Now, this is a monochromatic green night scope. It was beautiful orange, golden. It lit up the entire"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "ocean all the way to it and dematerialized. Now, watch this one."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "It it's it's absolutely and the light isn't light from an aircraft. See, and there's nothing there when it vanishes."}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "It's celestial light from a deep transdimensional interstellars that are at the level of God consciousness. And"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "the experience of it, you go into a very high state of consciousness, just the energy bathing you in this cosmic light."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "Look at this one. Watch how it turns. Sharp 300\u00b0 turn."}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "Boom. Stunning. And then dematerializes. Not an airplane, not a satellite, not"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "Superman, not a weather balloon. This is what happens all the time when"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "we go out. I'm I'm just showing you a few images out of thousands. We have"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "thousands. And this is with amateur equipment, amateur camera people, and volunteers. Imagine if we had"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "professional grade staffing and professionalgrade equipment."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "No, I'm just saying that, you know, I mean, you know, they're doing the best they can. I am,"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "too, with very little resources. Dematerialized. This was a huge crimson red ship."}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "Look at this. Oh, it's back. It's Here it is. Yeah. Right here."}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "Oh, it vanished. There were two of them. The first one was missed. This one, it took a little while for the camera to"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "get moved over to it. This is why we need 360\u00b0 camera capability, which is we"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "just don't have it. Um, what we need to get it paging all camera nerds and but"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "it was beautiful. Now, on the on this film, it looks just monochromatic. It was this gorgeous crimson deep red"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "and it just it was there very close and we were connecting with the occupants"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "and after it dematerialized we had this meditation where we met the the the"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "occupants uh in meditation many people the electronics were going crazy and"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "we're out on this national seashore 100 mile long Cape Patteris national seashore where there was absolutely"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "nothing that would have made these electronic detectors go off and they began to talk to us afterwards in in"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "ways that were just beautiful. Here it is again."}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "It was quite large. Uh at arms length it was probably the size of a nickel if you"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "hold your arm out, which is actually pretty big if you look at what the size of a helicopter aircraft is. It was it"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "was fairly close over the ocean. I'm quite convinced it was the same um the"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "same group of ETs that had come up that had gone into the ocean the first night we were there."}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "Uh the these civilizations are always"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "with us and and there aren't it isn't just one or two. It really is hundreds"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "of them perhaps thousands and in the universe there's countless numbers but not all of them are involved with the"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "mission to planet Earth. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "That's my laser. And we're looking to east over the"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "water. This is beautiful because we have this"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "another I call cosmic flashbulb. And we're there. Look at the brilliance of it. It lit up the whole circle"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "set up presence right there. Oh, it just did it again. I just did it"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "again. So, it's this object that came in, materialized, and filled filled the"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "circle with light. One time we were there, we didn't have a camera on. We were having bidas and conviviiality"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "at 3:00 in the morning after being out all night and sitting out in a circle, just four or five of us, and and uh"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "kindness came over, stopped, and rolled out a beam of light that lit up the entire circle where we were sitting."}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "This is the Milky Way galaxy and this we're up at Blanca Peak at our contact"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "site and all these objects appear within about four or five feet of me."}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "Now in conscious on channel one in my consciousness what we were doing we were having a meeting at this contact site up"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "on Blanca Peak which is the sacred mountain of the east for the Native American tribes of that area. the third"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "highest peak in Colorado. And there were ETSs that were there and"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "their craft emerging out of the mountain. And then behind shifted behind"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "people could see the sort of celestial realm and behind that the realm of the"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "divine avatars and ascended masters. and and but this appeared right beside me"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "next to us in front of the bushes at this contact site"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "[Music] when we we've gone to the areas of the crop circles. This is really fun. We had"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "someone who had a great camera who uh"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "there was this orange weirdness and it's on a tripod not being moved and this is"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "normal. This is a still photograph. That's my head. And this is this object"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "and it is not an artifact. And watch because it moves. Here it is again."}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "There's feedback coming out of somewhere. Look at it. And it has a little bit of violet color here. This is my head now."}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "So I'm looking the other way. It moved this way."}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "Isn't this awesome? There's a guy from France who's on our"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "team. And here it is, another one. This is a separate photograph. These are in"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "sequence. And I'm looking around. Boom. Boom. Boom. Very quickly."}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "I felt it. and the that we had a detector in the center of the crop circle that was going dum dum dum dum"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum for a"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "long time. My detector did that as I went into my house last night. By the way, very anomalous."}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "So, watch when they put it into motion. So, we're we we boom boom boom. This is"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "a a tripod not moving with a remote. We never let our people touch the camera to"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "take a picture. They do it with a remote control. Boom. Boom. Boom. So, this is"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "actually there. Then watch what happens. Oh, there's another one. It'll come in later. This is the crop circle where we"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "did work that year. And this is just from above. We placed ourselves in this"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "area right here. It's beautiful. in the very center of it when I put one"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "of our detectors down it started making like angelic celestial music and there"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "were all these croppies people who go on these crop circle tours it's really a disaster when I go because you know end"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "up having a thousand people following me into the field but th that began to make these sounds and that night we set up"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "and this was at dusk beautiful photography and there were all these"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "chevron objects that began to appear."}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "This is in one frame. Luminous objects. Now, this is with no"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "flash bulbs. We never allow flash bulbs because I see pictures all the time. It's a flash bulb. It's illuminating"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "insects, dust, whatever. This is no FL. It's a very sophisticated camera that had a high we change a high ISO and and"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "a certain shutter speed so we could capture phenomenon. And these are all above this crop circle field area. Look"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "at this one. You can see the light coming from another dimension into this one."}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "This is one photo."}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "uh that particular particular fractal crop circle shape. They're they're"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "archetype types in consciousness but enliven awareness like a mandala"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "if that makes sense. People have don't remember. Now this is"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "the puja just a photo to show you uh the crop circle and where we set up. And"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "this particular night we had done a really uh deep meditation"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "and in the silent time look what appears. This is this is not"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "an artifact. There's this blue light that envelops the puja table. This is"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "one of our detectors with a green light on it. this blue light and then there's this weird tubular structure coming out"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "of one dimension into this dimension and it's extraterrestrial but very"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "transdimensional. Beautiful. Aren't these beautiful pictures? Yeah. I"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "mean, I don't take credit cuz I don't operate cameras. You don't want to get me near one. I break everything."}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "Yeah. So, here's another one. And it's beneath"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "these glow clouds and it's this beautiful spherical ship"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "and not Photoshop. This is actually the the reason it looks so bright and colorful is because we've uh adjusted"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "the camera for the ISO, the speed, and the lens and what have you. So, it's"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "almost like a night vision uh system, but in full color. This is my finger."}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "And I'm in this another crop circle pointing I said there's a ship over here. This is me in a cap. And here's"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "this. What is that? Wait till they blow it up."}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "It's like, wow. So, this is an interstellar vehicle that's uh in a"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "spherical form. If it were to fully materialize, it probably would be several hundred to several thousand feet"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "across. But often they will just appear in these uh forms because if they and they fold"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "within spaceime and all you can detect is a small part of it. And this is what you need to begin to look for by the way"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "and photograph with your team. And it's a gorgeous. Now people said could did anyone see it with the naked eye? I'm"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "saying whose naked eye? I did and I could feel it. And so luckily the the person with me that year listened when I"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "would say I sense something over here and I'm pointing. He took a picture and there it is. Now this is a different"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "crop circle and we're going into it climbing over a hill into this field and you see where people have walked in and"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "this object comes in over us. Very strange. Wait till you get a good"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "blow up of it. Very high resolution. uh camera."}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "I forget how many megapixels it is. Is a Nikon."}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "And look at it there. Again, it has a dark and indented area. It's seamless. It has these two uh objects coming off"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "of it. Here it is. And uh it was above us in the field. a"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "kind of a dull gunmetal gray. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "Now, we're up on Woodborough Hill here and which is uh in Alton Barnes where"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "epicenter where many of the greatest crop circles have been formed. And this chevron shaped thing"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "or boomerang shaped object. It floats down across this uh field where there"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "have been many many many crop circles over the years. There weren't wasn't one that year. These are just this is a"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "exposed for a few seconds. So my laser I was pointing it out and I hit the grass"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "but it was I was pointing it out because it emerged into this dimension and then dematerialized."}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "There is no road or anything else in this area. This is very very steep."}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "those of you who've been there. And you can see everyone's craning around looking because I'm pointing it"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "out."}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "So, we had meditated up there. I don't know if this was the year. Here's another object."}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "And it was this year. And when I when I set up to do the puja in the center of the circle, so we all make a circle and"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "I do it in the very center. There were all these cows in this meadow that year, which was a little dis disconcerning,"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "but it turns out they loved us and they came over. This is a true story. One,"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "they came over when we were ready to meditate. And one by one they kneel down and sat"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "around the circle in the pua meditating with us until it was over. And then we"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "finished meditating, they got up and went off to another area."}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "The all these cows, it's magnificent."}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "Another one barely in this dimension, boomerang shaped."}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "Now, this is not an aircraft that changed directions with a time lapse. This is"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "just Here's another one. I don't to be honest, this one was very, very brilliant when it flashed in. I don't"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "know if it originated here and then left or it originated here and got closer. It happened very quickly."}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "But in a way, these are beautiful abstract paintings. I mean, you know, if you if you just take them as they are."}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "Oh, there's my laser pointing over to that one. And here's here's another one. Look at this."}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "The area right over where these appeared in Roman times it was called flying"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "shield hill and there's a golden ball hill. So these objects have been seen"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "since for thousands of years in this area of England. That's how those areas got their name."}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "I'm quite sure. It makes sense, doesn't it?"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "So when we're under the sky meditating, these objects can appear during the"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "meditation, during breaks, at any point. We set up the environment to welcome them in universal peace and then we just"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "let them appear any way that they can. When we have an object that is in this"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "dimension for any length of time at this site, we've actually had military helicopters with no markings and no"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "lights on them come over at about 100 ft above us. Very aggressive and very"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "disconcerting. Actually, this uh has happened more than once at this site in"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "a after this was recent a fairly recent expedition, but in 1992 when this craft"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "fully materialized in the Northfield uh of off of Woodborough Hill on this"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "1800 acre farm that we get permission to use as part of the Royal Trust Lands and the farmer uh loves when we come"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "this craft that appeared in '92 in the field uh that ended ended up causing the"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "following year the covert programs to put antennas"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "in the whole area. And Colin Andrews had multiple farmers in the area saying that they encountered these guys skulking"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "around putting reconnaissance systems around the week before my team arrived."}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "Yeah. Which happens also all the time. So when"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "we do these a you know these announced locations and trainings obviously uh if you know that so does you know who but"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "we just take that as a given and we work around it by being in higher consciousness with events like this"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "happening that they can't stop. By the way this is this was an a time"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "exposure and this is an object uh aircraft that's moving over. This is not"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "an aircraft."}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "For many years, I would take people into the crop circles um to experience the"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "and remote view the energy of each one and then at night go out till maybe 2 in"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "the morning doing this. I I've I've stopped doing it only because there's very there's no way for"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "me to be there. Uh the last time we did it, there were there were entire tour buses trying to track where we were and"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "then like 80 people invading our site and it just it gets out of hand. So, I"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "mean, there's no way to h there's no way to hide hide me out out"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "in those areas during the crop circle season. This is fantastic."}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "So, I was remote viewing. I said, \"They're here.\" And at that instant, you"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "see people turning around. Now, these are just people moving stuff because it's a few second exposure. This object,"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "this is the edge of the hill right here. It appears right at the edge of the hill. It looks like the sun rising. Look"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "at this. Not an artifact. And it's a big spherical energy field."}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "And within it is an extraterrestrial vehicle and a group of ETs that we then"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "uh contact in remote view and have"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "relationships with in the dream time afterwards. But they come in very very"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "profoundly very briefly."}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "Sometimes they will let us know. I mean like in Beiju I asked he told me they were he was from the Andromeda galaxy"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "did not give the star system"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "this one I don't know the origin I didn't ask too much else going on"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "but I will tell you that every stable star system has planets and in that have"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "and those planets have beings that are conscious even as we"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "are. Now, this is one of the most amazing photographs."}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "What didn't get photographed was what happened right before this. We're setting up for the puja. This is when we had the Ministry of Defense of Francis"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "guys there, but nobody knew it. And I this object blips into this dimension,"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "this mauve purple object. Beautiful."}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "Just before the pua. This is Mount Shasta. It's 14,000 and some feet. It's a"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "volcano, although allegedly dormant."}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "And we're out there. I'm doing these contact protocols and"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "suddenly I'm I'm pointing. I didn't want to hit it with my laser."}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "This object appears again. They can sometimes make a comma motion that it's"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "in the field. So I to tell people at that point they've arrived the detectors begin to interact and then they'll"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "dematerialize but we'll go into the dimensions of consciousness and see see"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "who they are and contact them. This is an interesting object because it came over"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "is not a falling star and look what happens at the very end of it."}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "We blow it up."}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "This is not a falling star."}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "Reminiscent of the object that came in at the beach that went wrapped around the Peruvian doctor. Unfortunately, we"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "were it got ice and kindness came in. This is not a moon. Look at this. How beautiful. But the lens of the it was"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "about 22 degrees 24 degrees. Uh, and the lens camera uh froze over with uh ice."}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "People go, \"Gosh, you go out in that weather.\" I said, \"Yeah, this was in the summer, but you're up at 7 8,000 ft.\""}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "Yep. Look at all these objects."}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "This is a beautiful object. This is reminiscent of the crop circle. the cubic forms of the crop circles that"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "same year and an object comes in just like that one the one you saw earlier and it makes this beautiful geometric"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "shape that's kind of a wo w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w woven cube at the base of it."}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "This is not a falling star, I assure you."}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "Here's"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "another one of these object that comes in right in front of the trees a few feet from us. Lights up."}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "And when you see that, you go, they're here. Now, the people say, well, why don't they just fully materialize and"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "come out and walk around? Well, it's very dangerous for them to do that. And if they've come this far through"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "transdimensional spaceime and from other galaxies, they expect us to be awake enough to go into consciousness and then"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "commune and and communicate with them uh when they're dematerialized right in the"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "field. They do these events just to let us know that they're very close."}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "Now, this is amazing because people who lived at Mount Shasta many years will"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "live there for years and never see it. Every time we go this happens. So these objects are emerging up at about 13,000"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "ft or close to 14. And this is not this is a star. This is out coming out of the"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "mountain. And it is a light ship coming out of this the crystallin deep"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "formations within uh Mount Shasta. Very transdimensional."}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "The one that lifted up and flew off to the left I showed you earlier uh was"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "actually in the field with us. This one is actually emerging out of the mountain."}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "We have a a photograph. I'm hoping it'll be in this series where there's about a dozen of them."}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "Look at the This is a glacier. Uh very steep vertical."}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "Yeah, it is almost as if one of the brightest stars in the sky emerges on the side of the mountain"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "and comes out and begins to communicate with us in consciousness."}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "These emerge in this, you know, it's interesting. They chose that area."}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "There's an uh I had I have some night vision scopes that are much better than the ones we're filming with. And you can"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "actually see the terrain and the vertical area. And it's coming straight out. Look at how bright it is."}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "Isn't that beautiful? You guys should go take your groups up to Mount Shasta."}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "It's up at the near the Oregon border in California."}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "I've done many expeditions there. The problem is um we we it's hard for us to"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "find a place to do our contact work there that will hold all of us."}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "This one's going on. And then this comes in right in the fence. Look. Boom."}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "Very close to us."}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "So they're here, here, and then they're in our consciousness. Watch this. There it goes."}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "Now, these light craft and beings that appear very quickly. It's reminiscent of"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "when I interviewed the police and the military in in Belgium during when they had all those large triangular craft"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "being seen. And the part of the report that got left out is that they would"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "dematerialize and form just a a sphere like this and then shoot off into space"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "and go straight out into space"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "right here. So this is also very late after there there are no satellites and it it's"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "interacting with us again and you can hear the detector just went off."}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "bloop."}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "We're up at a site at about uh 7 or 8,000 ft when this happened. Very clear air, gorgeous, but cold."}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "You need six layers of clothing. And this is in September,"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "early September, I believe. Beautiful."}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "And then it you can see it doesn't move. It just disappears."}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "This got pixelated. They were trying to zoom in. It's beyond the camera. Th This"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "was a is a night scope moninocular third generation hooked to a digital camera."}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "Another object right outside the circle."}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "Sometimes there'll be a scatter of these and when they scatter"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "uh it's an area where it the area is being activated as it were"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "beautiful."}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "This is Mount Chassis in the fog."}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "It's going straight up. Yeah. This Mount Chass is almost like"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "one of the chakras of Mother Earth. Beautiful."}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "It was going up. Came up from the volcano going up. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "Just a golden object in the north field here."}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "I'm talking about a golden object arrived in the north field and then the camera captures this. Yeah. Right here."}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "So with these nice scopes, you can't see color, but uh"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "many of these objects, they range every color of the rainbow."}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "These look like discrete lightning bolts in a small area."}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "These happen very frequently coming into this dimension."}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "So, we need to um of course I rec I don't know if we can"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "skip forward to the next series."}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "All right. All right."}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "This is a planet. This is not"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "So, one of the things that that most people don't realize when you begin to practice the C5 protocols is that you"}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "have to have all your senses on. This is just visual. They're tone tonal. There's"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "sounds that are coming in may or may not get recorded. And there are also even"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:45", "text": "smells. You can actually sometimes you'll smell like carnations or roses or"}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "very very bright emerging."}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "Bless you."}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "Then towards the end of the night, what I always ask people to do is to connect to everything that we've seen and the"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "intelligences within them, the people within them, and invite them to come into your dream time. And since there's"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "really no barrier to space and time right now, you can go back in time to"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "this event, connect to those beings and ask them to come in to dream time with you tonight. Here"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "you understand that this is these are just ways to awaken the mind and remind you they're never very far away at all."}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "[Music] And when you begin to realize that"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "interstellar civilizations are not required to appear the way Hollywood would like for you to imagine them, then"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "and you begin to understand all the different ways they can manifest like this. You can go out and with a"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "completely open mind experience their their presence. There has never been an"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "expedition in the 25 years I've been doing this where something new that I have never seen or experienced hasn't"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "happened."}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "So I don't know if you can fast forward. Is there a fast forward function on that in the interest of time?"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "The reason we're have Oh, here we go. See, we're and we're on another on the"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "west coast of Florida near Mar on Marco Island and we're on a state beach and"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "all of a sudden these very strange objects start appearing everywhere."}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "You can probably just fast forward on this because it's really very interesting to see."}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "There it is. Look right there. It turns out on this one particular night there"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "were 300 of these objects seen"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "and they're actually lighting up the mangroves. We're looking towards the Gulf of"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "Mexico. This is a lagoon that you have to walk through during the day if you"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "want to go out to the ocean. And we're on a sandy beach. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "Now, this is beautiful. What is this?"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:45", "text": "We take a photograph. There's It's a little out of focus. We're just starting our meditation and a brilliant object"}, {"start": "00:36:45", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "flashes. But what the camera captures is this."}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:59", "text": "[Music] This is the ocean. The edge of the ocean is out beyond these mangroves. This is"}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "sky. These are stars. And this it goes all the way twice as far as this. And"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "it's almost like a a a rupture in spaceime with all these objects that appear over the ocean very near us."}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "And everyone is in meditation. You can see."}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "So you can fast forward this to the next."}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "You can just fast forward through these."}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:51", "text": "Oh, go back. Oh. That's all right. Go ahead."}, {"start": "00:37:51", "end": "00:37:57", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Look at this one moving"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "really bright one. So you can fast forward it some more."}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "I mean you get the idea of the kind of phenomenon. This is a collection that"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "[Music] oh we can go back to this crest"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "beginning of the crest one. There we go. Now we're at again is very strange. The"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "Tibetan prayer bowl is uh the arrows in the wrong place."}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "and objects begin to show up around us."}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:58", "text": "And we're in in this sandy area on my land in Colorado."}, {"start": "00:38:58", "end": "00:39:05", "text": "And this is one of the stranger things that have happened. We're in a circle. These are the same. This is a still"}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "camera, very high resolution. And this looks like a blue beam appears between"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:17", "text": "two people. And you'll see this again at Mount"}, {"start": "00:39:17", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "Shasta in a moment."}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:28", "text": "This is one of my favorite. This is coming straight up. People, the native peoples reported this for centuries."}, {"start": "00:39:28", "end": "00:39:34", "text": "This is an ob. Here's our circle. This object comes up and stops right here,"}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "right in front of us. A light ship. Uh the local ranchers will see these"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "objects coming up from the earth and they call them cheap fireworks and they're actually deep underground in the"}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "earth. ET uh spacecraft that come in and then launch up. Uh this is me right"}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "here. And out here on this part of the Baka, the desert, there's this reddish"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "object that appears right at dusk. right at dusk."}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:20", "text": "And this is beautiful. We're breaking up. This is where we put Sherry's ashes on my land. And there's this gorgeous"}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "burst of energy and light right beside it."}, {"start": "00:40:33", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "We went out earlier to set up before the group and I started sensing there was a golden ship and I pointed over in the"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "meadow just like that picture in England and this is sitting right on the land right on the edge of the stream here."}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:52", "text": "Nothing over there. There no houses, no cars, no roads and it's just coming up"}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "from the ground luminous."}, {"start": "00:40:57", "end": "00:41:05", "text": "It's a ship sitting in the field. Oh, it seems so frozen."}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:19", "text": "Maybe the end of this TV. I don't know. I think this is the end. The end. Okay. So, let's um do we want to stand and stretch? What time is it?"}, {"start": "00:41:19", "end": "00:41:28", "text": "[Music] Oh, okay. So, why don't before we put the next ones in, why don't we take a stretch and about a 20m minute break. Is"}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "that good? And we'll come back. Are you guys enjoying this? Yeah. Okay. We'll have we have more. So, we'll do continue. So,"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:43", "text": "you can put the lights up and we'll see you in about 20 minutes."}, {"start": "00:41:49", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "We just have about uh maybe uh 30 more minutes of images. If you can"}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "bear them, do you want to see more? All right. And then we're going to do question and answers and then it'll be a"}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:29", "text": "wrap for tonight. So, uh,"}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:39", "text": "I don't know if everyone's in yet. So, folks, uh, people who are on the"}, {"start": "00:42:39", "end": "00:42:44", "text": "staff, if you can go out and gather folks around and ask them to come in quietly. We're going to go ahead and get"}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:54", "text": "rolling. Uh, webinar folks ready? Yeah. So, this is a continuation uh"}, {"start": "00:42:54", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "uh of some images. We may fast forward through a few for the interest of time."}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "Yeah. Yeah, I'm ready. Let's go."}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:13", "text": "Don't you hate computers? They're so slow and stupid."}, {"start": "00:43:17", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:32", "text": "I like I the reason we're having a problem. We usually use DVDs uh because computers really are very"}, {"start": "00:43:32", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "poor quality for this. Uh and but the hotel didn't provide a remote so there"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:44", "text": "was no Yeah. for the DVD player. So I didn't discover that until we were about"}, {"start": "00:43:44", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "ready to start and no one knew that they didn't provide one. Uh, and I do apologize. There's a little bit of"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:54", "text": "technical problems here."}, {"start": "00:44:07", "end": "00:44:13", "text": "This again or not too long ago 2011 an object that comes you can see the"}, {"start": "00:44:13", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "mountains is not something in the sky it's very close to us again at our contact site."}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:44:29", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "Now the dark object is because the camera got kicked over and that's dust."}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:49", "text": "Don't be it's nothing interesting."}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:56", "text": "[Music] But the ob this luminous object is"}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "I saw it, too."}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:23", "text": "[Music] This is pretty interesting because it's a three objects in front of the"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "mountain. Another it's it's a theme that keeps recurring."}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:41", "text": "This was fantastic. Unfortunately, the night vision camera didn't capture it. No satellites up. this object with the"}, {"start": "00:45:41", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "nice scopes I have that are much better than these that are connected to the camera. You could see a perfect cetti"}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "triangle floating across. So it was three spheres connected by bars floating"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:46:02", "text": "across the Sangro Mountains. Interestingly, after this and not too"}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:07", "text": "long ago in the Midwest, one of our teams had a night scope that captured a"}, {"start": "00:46:07", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "sea steady triangle that flew right over and turned. You're going to see that in a moment, which which you actually see"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:20", "text": "the shape of it. This unfortunately it was so bright that this particular the resolution on this camera and night"}, {"start": "00:46:20", "end": "00:46:26", "text": "scope did not permit the the the discernment of the actual structure that"}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:32", "text": "this was in the atmosphere not too far away and fully materialized."}, {"start": "00:46:32", "end": "00:46:38", "text": "And then go to the next one. I guess you can't fast forward or go to"}, {"start": "00:46:38", "end": "00:46:43", "text": "the next. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:46:57", "end": "00:47:03", "text": "This is magnificent. Look at the size of this object right above the mountain."}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:30", "text": "Look at the size of this. So this this is what you think it is. Look at the shape and the size. It it is a craft"}, {"start": "00:47:30", "end": "00:47:36", "text": "that's actually hovering there that unveils itself, comes into this dimension and then recedes."}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:44", "text": "Does that make sense? So, you need to look for these when you're out. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "So, let's go to the next."}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:03", "text": "This is an object right in the tree where Sherry's remains. The ashes are."}, {"start": "00:48:03", "end": "00:48:08", "text": "Look how close it's maybe 20 ft from us."}, {"start": "00:48:24", "end": "00:48:31", "text": "Oh, this you can skip over this. This was on the other disc. can move through these"}, {"start": "00:48:31", "end": "00:48:37", "text": "[Music] as that object again. It's magnificent,"}, {"start": "00:48:37", "end": "00:48:43", "text": "but you just saw it. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:49", "text": "But this is interesting because this is again another year at Shasta. We're across the valley from the town of Mount"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:56", "text": "Shasta up on the the other side and suddenly all these objects start appearing coming out. This happened for"}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:49:02", "text": "several hours and then there are still photographs you'll see of these beans"}, {"start": "00:49:02", "end": "00:49:07", "text": "that are around us by this huge log house that we"}, {"start": "00:49:07", "end": "00:49:12", "text": "were using. Um I don't know if it's in this series. At one point there was a"}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "gigantic Arcturan type being a misamorphic that was about 12t tall that"}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:23", "text": "was just outside the group partially in this dimension."}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:30", "text": "[Music] This is very jerky. This is why you"}, {"start": "00:49:30", "end": "00:49:38", "text": "can't really use computers. Computers are very poor uh video as you know."}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "Yeah, it's it's it's glitching. But the there's a whole group. Look at all the ice and snow this time this year. And"}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "these objects are coming out. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:50:07", "end": "00:50:11", "text": "Yeah, that's where you want to be looking."}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "I'm sorry. There there's a road down here that what you want to be. And someone walks right in front of the camera."}, {"start": "00:50:22", "end": "00:50:27", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:37", "text": "There. Yeah, here they're coming. I don't This is pix pixelating and breaking up digitally. I apologize. Um"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:45", "text": "I there's no probably nothing we can do about someone else walks in front of the camera."}, {"start": "00:50:45", "end": "00:50:50", "text": "Memo to participants. Do not walk in front of the camera. When a contact event is Here's one way up here in the"}, {"start": "00:50:50", "end": "00:50:56", "text": "snow field. See this one? So, they begin to emerge all over the mountain. Eventually, there are about a dozen of"}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:51:03", "text": "them. Oh, yeah. Here. Here. It's back. It's back. Here they are. Two here, one here, and"}, {"start": "00:51:03", "end": "00:51:09", "text": "then there was the one up here. And soon you'll see it. Unfortunately, this is jerking along. The actual video"}, {"start": "00:51:09", "end": "00:51:15", "text": "is really excellent, but um computer is chewing it up."}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:21", "text": "incredibly steep. Oh, there's one way up higher up here."}, {"start": "00:51:21", "end": "00:51:29", "text": "Often they're in volcanic areas because in those mountains are very very large crystalline caverns where they can uh"}, {"start": "00:51:29", "end": "00:51:34", "text": "reside uh and also they're monitoring geohysical activity"}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:40", "text": "in the event of instability. So you look way up high. Did you see how"}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:47", "text": "bright this one was? There's more. It keeps they get brighter"}, {"start": "00:51:47", "end": "00:51:53", "text": "and bigger and brighter. It goes on and on and on. Oh, how bright. Look at that."}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:51:59", "text": "Some of them are huge. So, these are you Some people have lived in this area their whole lives and never"}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:04", "text": "seen it. We've never gone to Mount Shasta where these beings and these craft haven't emerged out of the"}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "mountain. And it's all has to do with the consciousness of the of the group."}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:16", "text": "Look at that one. Magna. It's like a giant star coming emerging out of the mountain."}, {"start": "00:52:16", "end": "00:52:21", "text": "Yeah, it really This is way far away. This is a 14,000 ft mountain. So, the"}, {"start": "00:52:21", "end": "00:52:27", "text": "size of this object is substantial. This is a huge mountain. Is not a spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe"}, {"start": "00:52:27", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe speck of light. So, these are light ships that are emerging out of the mountain."}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "Really bright. And there's one straight above and you've seen the ones that flew up and flew out into space. These are ones"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:46", "text": "that are just coming in and out, materializing, dematerializing in and out of the mountain. And this happens in uh"}, {"start": "00:52:46", "end": "00:52:52", "text": "all over the earth actually underwater as well. Someone at the break was asking me hopefully still images will be"}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "better. Look at this. It looks like a an it's a bean and almost like a uh"}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:08", "text": "this is this is a and it's yeah it's between two people"}, {"start": "00:53:08", "end": "00:53:14", "text": "just coming almost like a jacket but it's it's barely in this dimension. It comes in and out of this dimension. This"}, {"start": "00:53:14", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "is no flash bulb. This is there luminous."}, {"start": "00:53:20", "end": "00:53:26", "text": "You know, it's partially This is an infrared shot in the middle of the day. And this object comes in. We have the"}, {"start": "00:53:26", "end": "00:53:31", "text": "camera set up and it picks this object up. That's a sphere. It comes up where"}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:37", "text": "I'm meditating in the morning because we get up around 11 or 12 before noon"}, {"start": "00:53:37", "end": "00:53:43", "text": "because we're up till 4 in the morning. And here's this object. Then this the"}, {"start": "00:53:43", "end": "00:53:49", "text": "following night an object comes and appears right in front of the tree"}, {"start": "00:53:49", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "and is materialized right in front visible to the naked eye. This is a a plane ting."}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "Now this is beautiful. Th there are all these beautiful lavender objects come up over my heart chakra. This is a gas"}, {"start": "00:54:02", "end": "00:54:10", "text": "tank. Uh but the and and but this is not my laser. My laser's in the pocket. This"}, {"start": "00:54:10", "end": "00:54:15", "text": "thing that looks like a laser is coming from space and comes down."}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:21", "text": "And look at this. And pause this for a moment. This is what happened with this"}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:26", "text": "is worth describing. It looks like a abstract art. This is an actual"}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:32", "text": "photograph of what we were seeing with the naked eye. So after that contact event happened and there was an ET that"}, {"start": "00:54:32", "end": "00:54:39", "text": "was in the middle of the circle, we heard footsteps outside the circle in the direction of this and I went out and"}, {"start": "00:54:39", "end": "00:54:45", "text": "I had my hands out, palms facing out and with my third eye, my heart and my two"}, {"start": "00:54:45", "end": "00:54:53", "text": "palms made a tr tetrahedral shape connecting to those beings and suddenly"}, {"start": "00:54:53", "end": "00:55:00", "text": "the entire area was sused in millions and millions and millions of"}, {"start": "00:55:00", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "multicolored beautiful lights. It was like swimming in an ocean of celestial light and it"}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:15", "text": "was all around us. It was it people were weeping. It was so celestial and it was"}, {"start": "00:55:15", "end": "00:55:22", "text": "definitely extraterrestrial but at the level of celestial energy and it came into this dimension and just from the"}, {"start": "00:55:22", "end": "00:55:29", "text": "point of view of art this is so beautiful. Unfortunately, the computer has kind of ruined this, but it's"}, {"start": "00:55:29", "end": "00:55:34", "text": "actually much clearer when you see the actual photograph. So, what can happen"}, {"start": "00:55:34", "end": "00:55:39", "text": "is that they can create an environment where they come in and you then find"}, {"start": "00:55:39", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "yourself walking in an ocean of scintillating light and their essences are all around you. And what I felt was"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:54", "text": "that every single one of these emanations was a representation of a different"}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "species from a different star system. And it's as if you were walking through stars that were conscious and the it was"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "like an ambassador flotillaa of points of conscious like at the almost the causal astral interface that came into"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:18", "text": "the dimension of earth. It was so stunningly beautiful. Okay, next."}, {"start": "00:56:23", "end": "00:56:28", "text": "Oh dear. Maybe that's the end of it. Okay, so this now this next little DVD"}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:33", "text": "unfortunately I haven't seen and and it was FedEx and it came in last yesterday."}, {"start": "00:56:33", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "So, uh from a team member who was assembling some and so we'll be guinea"}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:46", "text": "pigs together. All right. I haven't seen it. Hopefully there's nothing uh"}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:51", "text": "but I I it should have some very interesting."}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:07", "text": "Here we go. Mo many of you have seen this about a five minute event. This is"}, {"start": "00:57:07", "end": "00:57:12", "text": "what the uh debunkers on YouTube have said is a"}, {"start": "00:57:12", "end": "00:57:19", "text": "uh flare. So, it's dark dark at night. It's in the winter 9:00. The sun sets at"}, {"start": "00:57:19", "end": "00:57:27", "text": "5. And what happens is really astonishing"}, {"start": "00:57:27", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "because first there's this one massive golden ship and then another one and they're there and there is a very stiff"}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:40", "text": "third 20 30 knot wind coming out of the north and they are stationary definitely"}, {"start": "00:57:40", "end": "00:57:46", "text": "are not flares but that's what they're explaining just like the Phoenix lights also were. Now this here you have"}, {"start": "00:57:46", "end": "00:57:52", "text": "another person who should be down. Uh and"}, {"start": "00:57:52", "end": "00:57:58", "text": "this is one of them and in a moment you'll see another."}, {"start": "00:58:00", "end": "00:58:05", "text": "The experience of this was really beautiful because it looked like the sun"}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:11", "text": "coming up at 9:00 at night and it wasn't something that that came up actually. It"}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:16", "text": "was just appeared and was stationary. And you can see the cloud being lit up"}, {"start": "00:58:16", "end": "00:58:22", "text": "and the winds coming very very very strongly from this direction. Someone said, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:58:22", "end": "00:58:29", "text": "well, it's a special flare on a parachute.\" Another person said, \"Well, it's just a regular flare, but so look"}, {"start": "00:58:29", "end": "00:58:34", "text": "at this one.\" And um"}, {"start": "00:58:34", "end": "00:58:40", "text": "it's what you think it is. And but this went on for about five minutes and they"}, {"start": "00:58:40", "end": "00:58:46", "text": "were very bright, beautiful. This is a a camera of a Sony AS7 that you can adjust"}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:51", "text": "it so at night you're filming in full color like night scope."}, {"start": "00:58:51", "end": "00:58:58", "text": "Pretty pretty amazing technology. So Daniel, who's on our team in Toronto,"}, {"start": "00:58:58", "end": "00:59:05", "text": "uh was the camera guy for this and"}, {"start": "00:59:05", "end": "00:59:12", "text": "it was quite cold that night. We were up by the dunes and not further out by the ocean because the wind was brutal and it"}, {"start": "00:59:12", "end": "00:59:20", "text": "was in the 30s. I think this is Florida in the winter and but quite cold."}, {"start": "00:59:20", "end": "00:59:27", "text": "Now, if you were to put up a flare in a 20 30 knot wind,"}, {"start": "00:59:27", "end": "00:59:32", "text": "believe me when I tell you, first of all, you see a smoke trail. Even if it was an electronic flare on a little"}, {"start": "00:59:32", "end": "00:59:39", "text": "parachute, which is what one debunker said, it would be moving at at at the speed of the wind obviously. And if the"}, {"start": "00:59:39", "end": "00:59:46", "text": "ground at the ground, if it's 20 or 30 knots, when you get up higher, it's going to be much uh more wind as you"}, {"start": "00:59:46", "end": "00:59:51", "text": "know, as you go up, you catch more of the winds because you don't have any break wind break from the land and"}, {"start": "00:59:51", "end": "00:59:57", "text": "structures on the land. But we were connecting with these two and"}, {"start": "00:59:57", "end": "01:00:04", "text": "it's almost like two eyes. You feel like you're look having two a being with two eyes and they're sort of recapitulating"}, {"start": "01:00:04", "end": "01:00:10", "text": "us staring at them and I felt they were looking back at us and connecting. I was asking people to go into this deep state"}, {"start": "01:00:10", "end": "01:00:16", "text": "of consciousness and connect with them. Have you have most people seen this"}, {"start": "01:00:16", "end": "01:00:23", "text": "before? Yeah, but I wanted to Yes. Well, people get excited and you know they want to"}, {"start": "01:00:23", "end": "01:00:30", "text": "stand up and it's it's understandable but it's a People"}, {"start": "01:00:30", "end": "01:00:35", "text": "are trying to and they go there and then eventually"}, {"start": "01:00:35", "end": "01:00:42", "text": "they just go away. They vanish. First this one and then and then this"}, {"start": "01:00:42", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "one. So we had a guy who who was actually uh"}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:56", "text": "has it was a Navy guy and he said this is no flare. But other people said,"}, {"start": "01:00:56", "end": "01:01:02", "text": "\"Well, the military was just playing tricks on you.\" And of course, you can always claim that basically was your if"}, {"start": "01:01:02", "end": "01:01:07", "text": "you're there and you're you're feeling it and seeing it and and when"}, {"start": "01:01:07", "end": "01:01:15", "text": "you see it with the naked eye, it's even moreffecting than when you see it through a camera."}, {"start": "01:01:16", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "And then they they go away. Goodbye."}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:28", "text": "Beautiful. These are some clouds here."}, {"start": "01:01:28", "end": "01:01:34", "text": "And that's a star. That's my laser pointing out where they were."}, {"start": "01:01:37", "end": "01:01:45", "text": "[Music] I don't know why he didn't edit. Editing is really important because here we go."}, {"start": "01:01:45", "end": "01:01:50", "text": "The Oh, this is the same object. This is a"}, {"start": "01:01:50", "end": "01:01:56", "text": "still still photograph. and they have the it looks like it's daytime. You see the stars. This is great still"}, {"start": "01:01:56", "end": "01:02:03", "text": "photography. It's a man a psychiatrist who's on our team and he lives in Montreal. Had a really wonderful camera"}, {"start": "01:02:03", "end": "01:02:09", "text": "setup. Look how crystal clear these are."}, {"start": "01:02:11", "end": "01:02:16", "text": "So they're not And by the way, we sc I had I have a a fourth generation night"}, {"start": "01:02:16", "end": "01:02:23", "text": "scope binocular military grade. You have to fill out the Homeland Security paperwork to get them. And there were no"}, {"start": "01:02:23", "end": "01:02:29", "text": "aircraft anywhere in this area and no ships. But still they say it was either dropped"}, {"start": "01:02:29", "end": "01:02:35", "text": "from an aircraft or came up from a ship. Even though there were no aircraft there and there are no ships there."}, {"start": "01:02:35", "end": "01:02:40", "text": "But the beautiful photography by this gentleman."}, {"start": "01:02:44", "end": "01:02:51", "text": "This was at a a park on the ocean near where we had engaged a house, an"}, {"start": "01:02:51", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "oceanfront house to meet in for the week last year. Was it last year? Y year before? Anyway,"}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:03", "text": "the last two years. Now you can see it with a less high"}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:11", "text": "quality camera. Yeah, this is a a a very inexpensive"}, {"start": "01:03:11", "end": "01:03:18", "text": "digital camera. same event. Uh, and also not on a tripod, obviously."}, {"start": "01:03:18", "end": "01:03:24", "text": "Yeah. Still, now I'd like to in all these"}, {"start": "01:03:24", "end": "01:03:30", "text": "cameras, there's no smoke trail, there's no parachute, they're they're not blowing down wind, and there are no"}, {"start": "01:03:30", "end": "01:03:36", "text": "other ships or aircraft around. And this went on for quite some time. And the experience in the cir in the in our"}, {"start": "01:03:36", "end": "01:03:42", "text": "circle and on the beach. And what happened later that night uh when people"}, {"start": "01:03:42", "end": "01:03:49", "text": "went back in the dream time after the the session, people had extraordinary contact events"}, {"start": "01:03:49", "end": "01:03:54", "text": "with these interstellars, the ETS."}, {"start": "01:03:54", "end": "01:03:58", "text": "So we can fast forward to the next"}, {"start": "01:04:01", "end": "01:04:07", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "01:04:07", "end": "01:04:13", "text": "you go past these. It's the same same event with you get"}, {"start": "01:04:13", "end": "01:04:18", "text": "the picture. Oh, here we are."}, {"start": "01:04:18", "end": "01:04:25", "text": "Oh, this is interesting. Oh, there's some This was just happened in um September. I haven't seen these"}, {"start": "01:04:25", "end": "01:04:30", "text": "yet. September 5th, a few months ago."}, {"start": "01:04:30", "end": "01:04:38", "text": "Look at how gorgeous. Oh, and we had uh it's a calibrating camera. And again, no"}, {"start": "01:04:38", "end": "01:04:44", "text": "flash bulb, but there is this blue orb and this gorgeous light. And it's where we had people had seen this object flash"}, {"start": "01:04:44", "end": "01:04:52", "text": "in and out. [Music] I think there's this one is is this the"}, {"start": "01:04:52", "end": "01:04:58", "text": "triangle that flies over as a transparent UFO. These two objects"}, {"start": "01:04:58", "end": "01:05:05", "text": "are see everything is stationary. These two are flying synchronously together. See"}, {"start": "01:05:05", "end": "01:05:11", "text": "it right here. There it is. These two."}, {"start": "01:05:11", "end": "01:05:17", "text": "No satellites in the area. In that area, they're very"}, {"start": "01:05:17", "end": "01:05:24", "text": "close. You can see how bright they are. There's a lake here and they get brighter. A little bit of jerky camera"}, {"start": "01:05:24", "end": "01:05:30", "text": "work, but they're doing the best they can. Uh on September 11th, 911."}, {"start": "01:05:30", "end": "01:05:35", "text": "Interestingly, look at the date. Oh, there's another event. This is the golden ship that went from east to west."}, {"start": "01:05:35", "end": "01:05:43", "text": "This is another event. And it was truly golden. Beautiful color."}, {"start": "01:05:44", "end": "01:05:51", "text": "It's almost like it's living too and spinning. Look at it carefully. You see three see the sections of it. It's like"}, {"start": "01:05:51", "end": "01:06:00", "text": "it's it's not just it has like three components coming soon. What the"}, {"start": "01:06:08", "end": "01:06:14", "text": "I'm not sure what that was. Anyway, I guess he's wanting to be a a filmmaker."}, {"start": "01:06:14", "end": "01:06:22", "text": "Here we are. This is where we're going to be in May up in Oracle in Arizona. And in the edge"}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:28", "text": "of the field, this multicolored gorgeous, there's nothing there emerges"}, {"start": "01:06:28", "end": "01:06:35", "text": "and uh comes very close to us. And here's another one. This is at"}, {"start": "01:06:35", "end": "01:06:41", "text": "night, but it's just the it's all it's made. And look at all the light within it."}, {"start": "01:06:41", "end": "01:06:48", "text": "No. Well, no. This was uh in Australia and it was an"}, {"start": "01:06:48", "end": "01:06:56", "text": "infrared specially adapted camera and we start having all these amazing"}, {"start": "01:06:56", "end": "01:07:04", "text": "objects occur also not artifacts by the way."}, {"start": "01:07:08", "end": "01:07:16", "text": "I am not sure. Oh, look at this. This is the one. This is the C city triangle. Look at it. Look at it go"}, {"start": "01:07:16", "end": "01:07:23", "text": "in and out of the clouds. Oh, I was hoping he'd crop it and zoom"}, {"start": "01:07:23", "end": "01:07:31", "text": "in on it. Then we need a good film guy. Michael Beijing Michael."}, {"start": "01:07:47", "end": "01:07:54", "text": "Oh, this is another uh fly in by kindness."}, {"start": "01:07:54", "end": "01:08:02", "text": "It's blue white. if you were to see it with the naked eye. [Music]"}, {"start": "01:08:03", "end": "01:08:08", "text": "One of the wonderful things about the if you get one of the apps for your phone"}, {"start": "01:08:08", "end": "01:08:15", "text": "or your iPad or just print off a satellite chart, it'll the if you're out"}, {"start": "01:08:15", "end": "01:08:23", "text": "late enough, it depends on the time of year, there's a time where there are no satellites visible. And so when th when"}, {"start": "01:08:23", "end": "01:08:30", "text": "these events happen after there are no satellites, it rules them out. If it's during the time when there could be"}, {"start": "01:08:30", "end": "01:08:35", "text": "satellites, you've got to check the satellite charts."}, {"start": "01:08:39", "end": "01:08:43", "text": "So we go to the next one."}, {"start": "01:08:50", "end": "01:08:56", "text": "[Music] Oh, I don't know where this is."}, {"start": "01:08:57", "end": "01:09:02", "text": "Oh, this may be Portugal. It's not label labeled, I don't believe."}, {"start": "01:09:02", "end": "01:09:09", "text": "Is it playing? Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:09:09", "end": "01:09:15", "text": "must be something there. Let's see here. counter."}, {"start": "01:09:19", "end": "01:09:22", "text": "Oh."}, {"start": "01:09:26", "end": "01:09:33", "text": "Oh, there's an object here that came and went. I don't know if you noticed from one frame to another."}, {"start": "01:09:34", "end": "01:09:39", "text": "It's still moving. Still there. It's still there."}, {"start": "01:09:41", "end": "01:09:50", "text": "If you enjoyed this video, make sure to check out the next one right here on the best of Dr. Steven Greer."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "What would it actually take to sink a"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "100,000 ton floating super carrier, a"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "single missile, 10? Or are we all"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "underestimating just how resilient and"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "survivable these ships really are?"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "Today, we're going to examine this"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "question with our best estimate based on"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "declassified Soviet documents, open-"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "source intelligence data, past examples"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "of ship strikes, and expert statements"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "from naval officers. To start off, we'll"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "assume that the PLA Rocket Force fires"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "several of their DF series carrier"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "killer missiles from land mobile"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "launchers. The long range DF-26 is fired"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "from the northwestern province of"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "Changhai and the medium-range DF-21 is"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "fired from the Neareastern province off"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "the coast in Jaang. Both of the missiles"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "converge on the carrier strike group. We"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "assume though that the super carrier is"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "found and its location is fixed. What"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "happens next is the DF-21 launch is"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "detected by US military satellites"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "overhead that are monitoring heat"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "signatures of launches. US Space Command"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "sends advanced warning to the carrier."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "Its position is 1,000 km away just south"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "of Taiwan within the missiles max range"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "of 1700 km. The missiles traveling at a"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "speed of Mach 10, so it's going to take"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "roughly 5 minutes to reach them. This"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "episode's sponsored by Ground News and"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "I'll use this platform to analyze the"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "story that actually gave me the idea for"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "this episode about how US military"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "deploys aircraft carrier to South"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "America amid soaring tensions with"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "Venezuela. Ground news gives me unbiased"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "objective look at the fast facts right"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "at the top of the story. Defense"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "Secretary Pete Hgsth ordered the USS"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "Gerald R. Ford strike group to reroute"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "from Europe to the Caribbean, a 5,000mi"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "journey. The Senate rejected a war"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "powers resolution allowing the military"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "buildup to continue. Armed Forces Press"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "stated that the president says land"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "targets are next inside Venezuela. Then"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "I can dig even deeper with ground news"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "and find out who these publications are"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "actually funded by because I like my"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "news like I like my women, strong and"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "independent that don't need nobody. I"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "can even instantly pull up the top"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "podcast in the subject because sometimes"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "that's where the best facts are hiding."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "And because I believe in Ground News so"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "much, they're offering you guys 40% off"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "the same Vantage plan that me and my"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "team use here. Just click the link in"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "the description or go to"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "ground.news/cappy"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "or scan the QR code. It brings the price"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "down to just five bucks a month. If you"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "want a better understanding of the"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "world, give ground news a shot. I can't"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "tell you where each of our carriers are"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "with any degree of precision, but given"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "a few moments of research at base ops, I"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "can give you the coordinates of every"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "Air Force runway, ramp, and hanger"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "worldwide. The first problem for Chinese"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "forces before the missile gets to the"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "carrier is that they have to find its"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "exact location in the first place"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "because it's not good enough to know the"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "general vicinity. To hit a moving ship"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "with a missile, they need to know the"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "exact location, speed, and direction"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "with almost realtime precision updates."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "The way the Soviet Union attempted to"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "solve this problem was with a war plan"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "to concentrate an entire air division to"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "find and attack the American carrier."}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "The Soviet tactic was to fly"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "reconnaissance planes extremely low at"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "about 200 meters off the water for 300"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "kilometers to penetrate the American"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "radar screen. It would essentially be a"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "kamicazi one-way run for the motherland"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "because their job would be to just get"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "visualiz confirmation of the carrier's"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "location and radio those details back"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "before being shot down. The Soviet"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "Navy's declassified documents reveal"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "that they hoped this would overwhelm the"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "carrier's defenses with then sending in"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "hundreds of Soviet backfires and Badger"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "fighters armed with over 80 anti-ship"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "missiles just to sink the single"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "carrier."}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "Miss H6,"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "you sank my battleship."}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "Battleship from Milton Bradley."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "The modern Chinese Navy will have more"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "surveillance capabilities at their"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "disposal. Space satellites with imagery"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "study wake patterns of carriers and can"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "locate them within a 200 kmter grid"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "square general area. EW radar aircraft,"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "underwater sensors, a network of"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "submarines and drones can get a closer"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "fix. Over the horizon land radars can"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "also get close, but they cannot pinpoint"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "a moving carrier's exact location. In"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "response, the US Navy Ford aircraft"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "carrier, their first line of defense is"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "to go into what's called emissions"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "control mode to limit any active"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "transmissions like radio and radar. They"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "only use one-way bursts of"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "communications to reduce sig clues of"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "their location. Elaborate decoy"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "emissions and deception tactics are"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "deployed to fake their location. The"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "Navy places their oil tankers, for"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "instance, with an enhanced radar"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "signature at the center of their"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "formation to deceive and fool the PLA"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "into thinking that it's a carrier. The"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "second layer of defense for the carrier"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "is the escort screen from a squadron of"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "Arley Burke destroyers and dozens of"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "fighter jets that now scramble to"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "intercept the missile. And an attack"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "submarine also has their back. A Ford"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "class carrier is never sailing alone."}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "It's always flanked by its homies. We"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "have some evidence actually of how this"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "works in practice. The first time in"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "naval warfare history that a US ship"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "intercepted an incoming anti-ship"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "ballistic missile was just recently in"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "the Red Sea against the Houthis in 2023."}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "The Navy effectively shot down seven"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "incoming anti-ship missiles, but those"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "were moving at much slower speeds of"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "between Mach 3 and four. And that's"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "roughly half the speed of the estimates"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "of the Chinese DF-21. At this point, the"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "DF-21 missile is incoming and it's now"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "within about 30 km range of the carrier."}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "It deploys its maneuverable re-entry"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "vehicle. So, it's able to now quickly"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "adjust its flight path and make a"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "trajectory for the carrier. The USS Ford"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "takes evasive maneuvers itself. They"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "accelerate to its top speed of between"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "35 and 40 knots and they make a hard"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "turn to starboard. The carrier will have"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "traveled 10 km since the launch of its"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "missile. We know China has trained on"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "this scenario for years by building"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "mock-ups of US Navy aircraft carriers in"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "the desert for target practice. The"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "replica two-scale models are mounted on"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "a moving rail system designed to"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "simulate and mimic how carriers sail."}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "The DF-21 missile activates its terminal"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "seeker which attempts to lock onto radar"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "and it uses its optical view to home in"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "on the moving ship. The missile knows"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "where the missile is unless it doesn't"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "because there's a lot of variables that"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "can go wrong at this point with the"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "missile and its ability to pick the"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "target back up accurately after coming"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "back from the atmosphere because there's"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "a period a window of 10 to 20 minutes"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "where it cannot receive new targeting"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "data. So there's problems for the"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "missile as well. The DF-21 has a"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "circular error probable according to US"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "Navy estimates of hitting anywhere"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "between 20 to 100 meters from where its"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "point of aim is. The Ford is about 337 m"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "long by 78 m wide, which makes it a"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "narrow close call. It's a roll of the"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "dice whether it hits or not. But since"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "we're the dungeon masters here, we will"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "assume for the sake of our hypothetical"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "that it's a d20 roll of the dice, a"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "critical hit. We're assuming in this"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "hypothetical that everything goes wrong"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "for the carrier and everything goes"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "right for the missile for the sake of"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "argument. We're also assuming the open-"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "source information of these systems is"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "accurate and that these weapons work and"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "are reliable when it's often not the"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "case in real life. At this point, for"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "the sake of the thought experiment, the"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "missile is able to evade the Navy's"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "electronic jamming, chaff clouds, and it"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "gets through the SM6 interceptors and"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "SeaWiz defense systems, which in reality"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "would defeat a percentage of incoming"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "missiles. The missile strikes the side"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "of the USS Ford hull with a 600 kg"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "payload of explosives at a final speed"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "of Mach 5. All that kinetic force is"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "equal to 700 kg of TNT even before that"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "warhead detonates. The first strike hits"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "center mass on the side of the ship. And"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "the Chinese DF-21 uses a unitary"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "penetrating high explosive bomb. It has"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "a semi-armourpiercing warhead that's"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "designed to detonate as deep as possible"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "inside the middle of the carrier. It"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "will punch a large hole through the"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "flight deck. Over pressure will blast"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "into the hanger, leaving a cloud of"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "incendiary shrapnel and fragments. It'll"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "rip through some doors and ventilation"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "systems. Thick smoke from the hanger"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "fire triggers foam and fire suppression"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "systems. Damage control procedures begin"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "and repairs start immediately. For the"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "initial moment, part of the carrier's"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "airwing is effectively out of action,"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "but the Ford hangers are split into"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "three sections, and there are multiple"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "elevators and launch sections on the"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "ship. The single hit is likely not a"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "mission kill entirely, although there"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "are 100 casualties. The missile hit the"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "high strength HY80 and HSLA 100 steels"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "that the carrier's built from. This is"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "an inch and a half thick. The ship's"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "designers, they have the job, on the"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "other hand, of trying to keep that"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "explosion as compartmentalized as"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "possible. It's like the same way I deal"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "with trauma. You just lock it away,"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "compartmentalize it, and the rest of you"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "stays afloat. The Ford has heatresistant"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "coatings and Kevlar plates up to 2 1/2"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "in thick and blast resistant liners that"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "surround vulnerable spaces. There are"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "reinforced steel bulkheads that add an"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "additional 140 mm of steel. Multiple"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "watertight compartments are designed to"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "slow flooding. A second DF-21, though"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "hits the carrier, this time on the top"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "of the carrier's forward bow flight"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "deck. It punches through the flight deck"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "and destroys a section of steel deck"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "panels. Two of the catapult tracks and"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "fittings are knocked out in the bow. It"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "detonates directly above the hanger and"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "the shock wave tears through nearby"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "compartments and damages the island"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "where the command center is. The"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "aircraft hanger is closed in with double"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "explosive resistant doors though with a"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "gap between them. The hanger, according"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "to open source information, is located"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "about 30 meters above the water line in"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "the ford and is sectioned into three"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "separate areas, the forward, midship,"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "and aft. After battle damage, repairs,"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "and fire suppression, within about 3"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "hours, flights are already taking off"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "from the remaining two catapults located"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "in the waist, the rear of the ship."}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "During the 1969 accident on the USS"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "Enterprise, where there was an explosion"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "of nine 500lb bombs on the deck of the"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "Enterprise, it was still able to"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "continue flight operations even while"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "they paused them for the firefighting"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "effort while that was being waged."}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "Lieutenant Commander Pollson from the US"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "Navy wrote a chapter on aircraft carrier"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "survivability, stating, \"Even after the"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "explosions, quote, \"The catapult and"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "arresting gear of the Enterprise were"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "undamaged. The debris from the disaster"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "needed only to be removed to resume"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "flight operations. A Russian source had"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "this to say about American carrier"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "survivability. Quote, \"All vital systems"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "of the ship are duplicated and spaced"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "apart from each other, which does not"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "allow them to be disabled by a single"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "hit, and such vulnerable elements as the"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "nuclear power plant and powder magazines"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "are located in the underwater part of"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "the ship below the water line and"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "covered with armor. aviation fuel is"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "generally stored in buoys, thereby"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "removed from the ship's hall. Therefore,"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "one cannot count on the defeat of such"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "important critical elements.\" End quote."}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "But the best example, I think, of"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "durability of a carrier comes from the"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "Navy's Sync X exercise, where they"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "purposefully tried to blow up their old"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "carriers to improve new ship designs."}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "The USS America Kittyhawk class took"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "constant fire from airdrop bombs,"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "anti-ship missiles, naval fire from 5-in"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "guns, and torpedoes for four straight"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "days before being scuttled. It's one of"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "the only examples of a super carrier"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "being sunk. The damage was closely"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "studied, and insights from that test"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "were then used on the Ford class to"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "withstand even more punishment."}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "Lieutenant Commander Pollson, US Navy,"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "wrote for Air Command and Staff College"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "Air University, quote, \"The classic"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "carrier proponent argument is that no"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "aircraft carrier built during or since"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "World War II has been sunk in combat. A"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "few were sunk in tests after World War"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "II when hydrogen bombs were dropped on"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "them while at anchor.\" Conversely,"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "though, the carrier antagonist argument"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "has been that the carrier does not have"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "to be sunk. It merely has to be damaged"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "to the point where it can no longer"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "maintain flight operations. That's when"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "a third missile hits the carrier and"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "this time on the side of the hole near"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "the water line. The hole is not that big"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "because the missile doesn't explode on"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "impact, but thousands of gallons of"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "water start to pour in. The Ford carrier"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "has thousands of sailors who conduct"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "what's called damage control. Every"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "single sailor has firefighting training."}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "They can carry hundreds of pounds of"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "portable pumps and foam systems that"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "smother jet fuel fires in seconds."}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "Entire hallways are sealed off,"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "pressurized, and some are intentionally"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "flooded to keep the ship balanced. We"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "have evidence already of what thousands"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "of pounds of bombs do to a super"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "carrier. In 1967, the USS Forestall in"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "the Vietnam War had an accident where an"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "electrical malfunction on a Phantom"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "Fighter caused a rocket to fire across"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "the flight deck when it was already"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "parked. The rocket struck a parked fuel"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "tank, spilling jet fuel, and multiple"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "thousands of pounds of bombs exploded,"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "triggering a chain reaction of dozens of"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "more bombs weighing thousands of pounds"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "all on the deck. Flaming debris tore"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "through the deck into lower"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "compartments. Fires raged for hours, but"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "the crew managed to salvage the"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "situation. The holes were patched with"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "temporary steel flooring. What's"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "remarkable though is that the USS"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "Foresttold didn't sink. However, what"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "that doesn't give us insider data into"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "really is what happens when a missile"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "moving at Mach 6, when a bomb going that"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "fast, hits a carrier. There have been"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "limited examples of this happening"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "though, this type of kinetic strike. Two"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "Neptune anti-ship missiles with"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "relatively small warheads caused"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "ammunition detonations that led to an"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "11,000 ton Russian Moscava ship being"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "scuttled and sinking. During the"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "Falcon's war, an Argentine launched AM39"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "was fired from a jet that hit a Royal"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "Navy destroyer that weighed 4,800 tons."}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "The missile ignited massive fires and"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "within hours the ship had lost power and"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "after several days she sank. The"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "estimates revealed by Cold War era"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "declassified Soviet documents for how"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "many missile strikes the Soviets thought"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "they would require to knock out an"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "American Nimitz class carrier. They"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "calculated they would need up to 12 hits"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "from KH22 missiles that have a 2,200 lb"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "warhead to kill a carrier. This is"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "considering regular conventional strikes"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "in order to sink the Nimits class"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "carrier. Other Russian sources believed"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "that it was between one and three"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "missiles to do superficial damage that"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "crews could easily repair, while eight"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "would cause serious damage, and 20"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "missiles would be required to completely"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "destroy or sink it in combination with"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "additional torpedo hits. They also"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "determined a single nuclear armed"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "missile could knock out a carrier. If a"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "fourth missile were to hit the carrier,"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "it would aim to damage another"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "wellprotected spot. That could be a"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "catastrophic kill. the carrier separate"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "powder carrier sellers. This is where"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "the ammunition is located. It's the most"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "safe tucked away part of the ship. The"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "exact number is classified, but there"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "are likely 30 independent compartments"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "that are all covered by Kevlar. This is"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "what's called the deep magazine"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "architecture. The separate compartments"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "for propellant are kept isolated from"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "projectiles so that they don't spark one"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "another. The Ford's jet fuel itself is"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "also stored separately in tanks built"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "inside the ship's anti- torpedo"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "protection. This section is surrounded"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "by seawater for insulation. The tanks"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "are filled with nitrogen, not air, which"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "prevents explosive fuel vapor from"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "building up. Getting a single knockout"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "of power systems on the carrier is"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "difficult as well because there are"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "multiple nuclear power plants that are"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "deep below the water line and they're"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "arranged in alternating reactor turbine"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "compartments that are separated by"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "bulkheads. Each reactor uses a failsafe"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "design. So if power is lost, coolant"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "pumps stop and the core floods"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "automatically that shuts down the"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "reactor safely. If we assume several"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "torpedoes are fired at the Ford class"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "carrier by enemy submarines at the same"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "time, this will be another necessary"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "step to sink a carrier. The first"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "counter measure the torpedo encounters"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "is the toad array acoustic decoy system"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "to spoof the carrier's location. If it"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "gets past that, the next part is 6 m of"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "anti-ubmarine systems. These are"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "compartments that are layered. The"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "torpedo penetrates through the first"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "few. These are sections filled with"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "fluid to slow it down and armored"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "bulkheads designed to absorb the blast"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "from a 300 kg warhead. The Ford has a"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "double bottom hole along the entire"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "length of the ship, including a"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "reinforced keel. There are different"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "opinions on how many torpedo hits would"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "be required, but Russian sources claim"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "that it would take 10 to sink a Nimttz"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "class carrier. To consider the"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "survivability of a super carrier, you"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "have to weigh hit rate probabilities,"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "which essentially means how many"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "missiles or torpedoes have to be fired"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "at a moving carrier to ensure a mission"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "kill. If we assume X amount are"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "intercepted, X amount are spoofed, X"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "amount miss the target. What is the"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "total? I think as a mathematician that"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "would be Y. Is that correct? What is the"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "total why needed to be fired? No one has"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "the answer to these questions. These are"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "just estimates. But they are important"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "calculations to consider. These"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "calculations are where the balance of"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "power in the Pacific lies. And when it"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "tilts, we can see it has outsized"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "impacts on the geopolitics of the world."}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "If we take into account that the Ford"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "class has better survivability than the"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "Nimmits and we take all of what we just"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "talked about into account, I would"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "estimate based on my theory that it"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "would be in the ballpark of 60 to 90"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "missiles that would need to be launched"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "at a carrier and require 10 to 20 hits"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "and 10 torpedo hits to ensure a carrier"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "is mission killed and sunk. Although"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "hopefully we never find out the actual"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "answer to that thought experiment. And"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "uh yes, that's that's my average"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "infantryman math on that. There are"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "several developments that could change"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "these estimates. New emerging unmanned"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "maritime and air attack systems could"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "complicate matters further for aircraft"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "carriers. However, on the flip side of"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "that, aircraft carriers will likely"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "become an important platform for"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "delivering and managing those drone UAV"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "attack drones in the coming years as"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "well. The other side of the argument"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "against the super carrier concept says"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "that it's not just about whether they"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "can protect themselves, but it's an"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "argument of putting too many eggs in one"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "basket. Lieutenant Jeff Van Dengel for"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "the US Navy wrote in a USNI magazine"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "saying that the loss of just one carrier"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "would be drastic weakening of the force."}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "The fleet would be less able to"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "accomplish their mission. Their risk of"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "centralizing the fleet's firepower in a"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "single ship. damage of a ship that is so"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "symbolic of US power would also have"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "major political implications. The"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "argument is to not get rid of aircraft"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "carriers altogether, but to make them"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "smaller platforms instead, which is"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "something that the Navy's working on"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "with their lighter carriers. But what do"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "you guys think? Let me know in the"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "comments section, especially if you were"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "in the Navy or Air Force, if you have"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "insight into these systems. Also, let me"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "know what do you think of these kinds of"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "hypothetical question videos. Do you"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "find it valuable? Do you want to see"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "more content like this? Hit the like and"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "subscribe button and check out one of"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "these videos here to learn more about"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "the defense industry. I'm your average"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "infanterman, Chris Cappy."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "For decades, the US military has relied"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "on over a dozen different sniper rifles"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "in their inventory. From semi-autos to"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "boltactions to multiple different"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "calibers. So why is every sniper in the"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "US military now switching to this one"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "single Mark22 bolt-action rifle? The"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "mystery gets even deeper, though,"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "because this is part of a much larger"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "sniper trend that I've noticed across"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "the world. Over the past 10 years, the"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "same sniper rifle concept has quietly"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "been adopted by many different"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "countries, including throughout NATO."}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "the Russian military, Chinese military,"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "Israeli forces, and even every terrorist"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "organization. When nations that can't"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "agree on anything can agree on the type"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "of sniper rifle, it signals that we're"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "witnessing a revolution in the sniping"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "world. Wow, this Te-Muggilly suit is"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "sweaty as [ __ ] The US Army just ordered"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "over 2,800 of the Mark 22 sniper rifles"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "in a contract worth more than $64"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "million. The Marines and Special Forces"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "are also replacing all their different"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "sniper rifles with this one single"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "boltaction, too. According to this"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "budget document that I dug through, each"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "rifle costs roughly $16,000. Add on"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "another 4K for its optic and suppressor,"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "and this system comes in at around"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "$20,000 each, easy. It's without a doubt"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "the most expensive sniper rifle system"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "ever adopted by any military ever. It"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "may be the single most expensive Gucci"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "military rifle in all of human history"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "up until now. Although, I'm sure someone"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "will snipe at me in the comments section"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "and tell me that I'm wrong. I see you,"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "Brad. You bullied me throughout high"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "school. Wasn't that enough? At first"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "look, the Mark 22 looks deceptively like"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "ancient 1800's boltaction technology."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "But if you let her hair down and take"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "off her glasses, we can see that she's"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "actually much more than that. We'll"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "learn how the Mark 22 and its precision"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "rifle concept is a huge leap forward in"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "firearms technology. Couldn't even"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "afford one to use as a prop for this"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "video. This is the story of why snipers"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "stopped trying to carry everything and"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "started carrying the Mark 22. Today's"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "episode is sponsored by ODU, the"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "business management software. You know,"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "I'm an infantryman, not a business"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "executive. I didn't go to school for"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "business and I've had to learn a lot"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "about spreadsheets and number crunching"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "and compliance stuff. I'm great with"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "history, writing, researching. I love"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "those things, I should say, but I suck"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "at the business side of things. I always"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "have. And that's why I'm excited to"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "share ODO with you guys because they"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "took all of that off my plate so I could"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "focus on doing what I love, creating"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "these videos for you guys. E signatures,"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "HR, accounting, projects, tracking, all"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "of that is now neatly in one place. It's"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "so intuitive, so plug-and-play style"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "that things were smoother after the"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "first day of using ODO. Some big"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "business big brain guy once said, \"Time"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "is money.\" Well, ODO saves you both. My"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "project app tracks every stage of each"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "episode. Accounting apps track invoices"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "and everything is integrated, so I have"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "a full view of the health of Cappy Army"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "the Business. If you're running any kind"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "of business, big or small, try ODO for"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "15 days free. No credit card required,"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "and any single app is free forever. Just"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "click my link in the description. Where"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "did the precision sniper rifle concept"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "come from? It's not like Boltaction"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "Technologies new. Why didn't snipers"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "just wake up yesterday and decide to"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "make their guns more accurate and shoot"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "further 15 years ago? In 1980s, the"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "British Arctic Warfare rifle was one of"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "the first purpose-built accuracy focused"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "bolt-action weapons for harsh"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "environments. It had many of the"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "features that would come to define the"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "precision rifle systems. It had"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "detachable magazine, precision barrel"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "for those long range accuracy, but it"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "didn't have the fully modular aluminum"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "chassis, adjustable stocks, sexy rail,"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "or most importantly, it didn't have"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "extreme long range or extreme accuracy."}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "I mean, since the Continental Army in"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "1775, American snipers have pushed the"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "boundaries of how far and how accurate"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "they could shoot. But for centuries,"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "those pushes ran into the same walls."}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "inconsistent ammo, subpar optics, and"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "horrible re-reachining processes that"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "couldn't hold the tolerances needed for"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "very long range accuracy. Snipers have"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "always dreamed of hitting targets at 2"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "mi away, but they were held back,"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "limited by science. But the quest for"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "extreme long range picked back up in a"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "very unlikely place. In the late 1990s,"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "early 2000s, there was this gigantic"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "explosion in the American civilian"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "competition shooter world. The long"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "range shooting community started to grow"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "quickly. Bros who were full-time"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "lawyers, executives, and carpenters"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "needed what every American male in their"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "mid30s needs these days. a hobby, a way"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "to blow off steam, a way to release the"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "kind of social pressures that come with"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "deciding between getting teflon"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "non-stick pans or ceramic non-stick"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "pans. I don't know. What do I do? The"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "sense of purpose that came from shooting"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "became an obsession for some. They"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "needed to be the best at hitting targets"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "at ridiculous distances. The hobbyist"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "feedback loop drove rapid iterative"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "improvements across the firearms"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "industry. First, the single biggest"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "enabler for these extreme longrange"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "rifles was the new computer numerical"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "control machining process. It allowed"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "gunsmiths to create fancy precision"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "bolts, receivers, precision barrels, and"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "tolerances that were measured to a"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "thousandth of an inch. They could now"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "design parts digitally and precisely"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "with a computer. CNC only became cheaper"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "and more widespread by the mid200s. This"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "was the first time in all of human"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "history where widescale production could"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "reliably be done like this. It's what"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "happens when there's an unholy union"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "between autistic C++ computer"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "programmers and OCD perfectionist"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "snipers. It was the perfect combo of the"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "RZ and the Tis. Normally, if there are"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "any tiny deviations in tolerance, if"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "it's off by even a single grundle hair,"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "it makes a huge difference for where the"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "bullet will hit when you're talking"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "about extreme distances. So by 2008,"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "precision gunsmiths like George Gardner"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "from GA Precision and the Desert Tech"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "SRS had pioneered some of the first"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "official quote unquote precision rifle"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "series or PRS. What defines a PRS? She"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "has a sleek modular chassis design. Ooh."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "Made of an itty bitty lightweight"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "aluminum instead of a solid hard heavy"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "wood. Ah, the stock is adjustable so it"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "fits just right. Mhm. There's a ton of"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "Pikatini style attachment points to slip"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "right into. Sorry. Sorry for that. She's"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "actually not that sexy. In fact, in my"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "opinion, the PRS almost looks like a"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "step backwards technologically speaking."}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "Old bolt action with the aesthetic of a"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "garage project made from spare parts."}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "But the most important aspect of any PRS"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "is the capability to hit extreme long"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "range with submin of angle precision at"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "over 1,500 m. That's 15 football fields"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "away that you have to travel to go and"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "teabag your enemy. Suddenly, sniper"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "rifles had twice the range and precision"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "compared to just a few years prior"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "compared to legacy sniper rifles that"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "the military was using at the same time."}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "Even 2,000 meter hits on a man-sized"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "target or beyond is possible with this"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "weapon. It became a summoning assault"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "style competition to see who could shoot"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "further than the next. These new rifles"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "from the PRS series claim to have 50%"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "tighter shot groups at 1,000 meters,"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "which was great. Snipers have long only"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "dreamed of this in their sweet sniper"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "dreams. The second reason this"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "development and advancement was"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "possible, though, is because of parallel"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "developments in ammunition. Ammo got"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "dramatically better, thanks to modern"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "advances in powders, which gave higher"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "energy with more consistent burn rates"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "that improves muzzle velocity,"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "consistency, and in turn accuracy. New"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "machining for the brass all meant less"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "variables. It's actually part of a long"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "tradition that civilian developments go"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "handinhand with military ones with"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "American snipers. In 1775, candidates"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "for the New Continental US Army"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "regiment, they showed up with their own"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "personal rifles and bullet mold needed"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "to cast their own shot back then. If"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "you're thinking of joining the military"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "today, you should definitely show up to"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "boot camp with your own personal weapon"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "and bullets. Drill sergeants absolutely"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "love that [ __ ] you'll be a sniper in no"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "time. The third reason that extreme long"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "range was emerging for the first time"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "was because of parallel developments of"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "improved glass for scopes and new"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "ballistic computers. By 2009, basically"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "the military was watching all of these"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "developments just licking their lips."}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "The army saw these developments in the"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "civilian and defense company sector and"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "in some ways they had innovated faster"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "than their own arsenal which was made up"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "of a hodgepodge of 16 different sniper"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "rifles at that point. Some were"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "semi-auto, some long-range, some short-"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "range. Each weapon to tackle a different"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "unique field problem. Each one had its"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "own special logistics, its own special"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "separate training pipeline, and its own"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "super special ammo. It was it was a"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "nightmare. The problem was they were"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "mainly still using old upgraded rifles"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "from like the 1970s and 80s. Good for"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "killing commies of the 80s, but terrible"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "for killing commies of the 2020s. The"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "slow adoption was in part because up"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "until then there was no strong tactical"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "need to upgrade sniper rifles to extreme"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "long range or extreme precision. The"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "sniper rifles were good enough for"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "government work and anyone who thought"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "it needed more would be expensive"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "overkill. Now you guys know I'm all for"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "overkill as much as the next sociopath,"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "but demand drives change. What I mean is"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "in the war in Iraq, sniper engagements"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "were typically under 600 m. the type of"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "mission assigned to them were often to"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "perform platoon overwatch or hunt for"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "enemy IED places. Even counter sniper"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "missions weren't extremely long range."}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "What I mean is snipers essentially had"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "what they needed. However, by 2009, that"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "was all about to change because sniper"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "engagements in the mountains of"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "Afghanistan were proving that their"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "equipment wasn't holding up. Further"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "distances and accuracy was needed."}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "Suddenly, the military wanted something"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "new. So, we have the demand now and the"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "supply. What is next? This is when"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "special operations command took their"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "first steps. They asked the defense"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "industry and smallarms companies to cook"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "up something similar to what all these"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "civilians had been doing as a hobby for"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "years. Socom launched their precision"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "sniper rifle or PSR competition. Yes,"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "they just flipped two letters and made"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "it PSR instead of PRS like it was in the"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "civilian world. And just like that, the"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "government avoided a whole lawsuit. But"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "this rifle needed new capabilities that"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "the civilian version didn't have. Most"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "importantly, it needed to be caliber"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "curious. And this was a huge deal. It"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "had to quickly within 2 minutes switch"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "between different calibers just by"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "loosening two torque screws in the"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "receiver, which allowed the removal of"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "the barrel. With only a bolt face"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "change, and in some cases, a magazine"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "change, voila, you were firing a much"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "bigger 338 round. Now, it basically is"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "three guns in one. Fine. And I'll I'll"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "say the defense buzzword. It's modular."}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "This is a huge part of the reason why"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "it's replacing so many sniper rifles"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "now. This way I can run a lightweight"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "version at 12 lb if I only need to hit"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "600 m. The competition attracted some of"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "the best in the industry. Nicholas"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "Young, the CEO of Desert Tech, even"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "created a whole video on YouTube and a"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "whole web page about how the SOCOM"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "competition was made in response to the"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "creation of his rifle and his long range"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "abilities. Did the government steal the"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "idea from the civilian sector? Who am I"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "to say? I'm no lawyer. But the American"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "military does have a long tradition of"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "adopting equipment after civilians had"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "trailblazed away. John Chapman was"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "credited with inventing the first"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "telescopic site in 1840. Then the"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "company Kels mass-produced them a few"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "years later and made an absolute killing"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "off of them. I'm not suggesting that the"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "government stole the idea for the PRS. I"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "mean PSR."}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "Great minds think alike. The initial"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "contract goes to Remington who had made"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "every American sniper rifle going back"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "for decades at that point. They had a"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "real they had a monopoly a hold on the"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "snipers balls. But by 2016, Barrett ends"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "up winning the final contract ultimately"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "and the Mark 22 Mod Zero advanced sniper"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "rifle was officially adopted. Boy, was"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "she beautiful. This baby doubled"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "ammunition capacity with external box"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "magazines compared to the old systems"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "which a lot of them only had an internal"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "magazine of five rounds. It has the"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "shooter shoulder in alignment with the"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "center axis of bore, which basically"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "means that the recoil forces go straight"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "back instead of climbing the muzzle."}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "More accuracy for exceptional shooters."}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "They're hitting 31 minute of angle. That"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "means their shot group stays within"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "about like 6 in or a dinner plate at"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "about 1500 m away. Overmatch unlocked."}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "The weapon went fully operational in"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "2021, which could not have come at a"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "better time if they'd planned it."}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "Because in hindsight, that was right"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "when the rules of warfare were about to"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "get turned upside down. Because in 2022,"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "put great power competition and warfare"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "back on the table. And this is a big"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "part of the reason for why the"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "acceleration of widely adopting the Mark"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "22. Today, the US military started to"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "rewrite all of their field manuals on"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "how they do everything from tank warfare"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "to scouts to snipers. And the key"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "distinguishing factor today for a sniper"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "in modern large-scale war is extreme"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "long range and extreme accuracy. And"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "here's why. While the US was developing"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "this sniper capability, so was Russia"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "and China. The Russian military has"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "fielded their own 338 bolt gun with the"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "Orus T5000. They revealed her in 2011,"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "adopted in 2018. Features all the same"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "design choices. Maybe they copied from"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "America. Who knows? This system is"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "currently being used though by Russian"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "snipers in Ukraine and Ukrainian forces"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "themselves have been seen with a wide"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "variety of PRS including Desert Tech"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "themselves. Once again, snipers are"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "holding up entire company level"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "offensive campaigns. They're not just"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "small platoon engagements anymore. The"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "technology has been exported to"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "countries like China, Barus, Syria. The"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "Chinese People's Liberation Army is"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "working on their own QBU 2022 which has"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "all the same characteristics again."}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "Chinese military forums that I lurk on"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "have been seen posting about new PLA"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "smallarms plants and manufacturing of a"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "new 338 type round. The fact that"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "Russia, China, and NATO country"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "militaries are all converging on this"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "338 bolt gun shows us this is a"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "widescale docal sniper shift. In future"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "proxy wars or head-on engagements, long"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "range will be the defining factor of"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "sniper engagements. Unlike past wars,"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "it's forcing the US military to rethink"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "their sniper tactics. So, snipers"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "between World War II and Vietnam War"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "were seen as prestigious mythical"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "assets. They were called on for"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "strategically important missions like"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "taking out highranking enemy officers or"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "a vital side quest ambushing an entire"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "enemy platoon. Famous legendary snipers"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "from that era like Vasili Zeissf racked"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "up hundreds of confirmed kills at"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "Stalenrad. His sniper team's presence"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "alone forced the whole German army to"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "change how they moved in the city. But"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "we lost a bit of that over the"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "generations. And I say that as someone"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "who struggled to qualify as better than"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "sharpshooter on the qualification"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "course. I've always looked up to snipers"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "as the standard, the example of what"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "dedication and commitment looks like in"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "a soldier. The global war on terror,"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "however, has left a generation that's"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "forgotten how snipers fit into largecale"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "combat operations. The line between"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "sniper and squad designated marksman has"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "been blurred and blurred even further"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "with the development of the M7 rifle."}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "Today, snipers are once again being"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "centralized at higher echelons like the"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "brigade level. Similar to how they were"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "used in past large-scale combat, taken"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "together, these changes in extreme long"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "range and the fact that the battlefield"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "is now under constant surveillance,"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "snipers today cannot afford to be up"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "close. That's why snipers are switching"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "to the Mark22 Emrad because they are"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "once again being called on to conduct"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "missions like knocking out expensive"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "radars, hunting high value commanders,"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "blinding enemy sensors from a mile and a"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "half away. These missions will have an"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "effect that ripple across the whole"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "battlefield. One wellplaced 338 round"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "can destroy millions of dollars worth of"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "sensors or UAVs. So $20,000 for a rifle"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "doesn't seem like that much at that"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "point in a costbenefit analysis. When an"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "enemy mortar team is spotted, you might"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "not be able to have the luxury anymore"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "of being able to call in an air strike"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "as a first option. In large scale"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "combat, that burden falls back on the"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "sniper shoulders, and on his shoulders"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "is the Mark 22. And that's why the PRS"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "is seen as a total redefinition of the"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "sniper's role and how it's supposed to"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "be. It's a combination of new,"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "never-before-seen extreme long ranges"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "and new, never-before-seen dangers on"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "the battlefield. However, the weapon is"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "not entirely without its controversy."}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "Even though the Mark22 platform is being"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "held as an upgrade, some of the first"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "units to receive the rifle have raised"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "concerns and issues that continue to"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "spark debate within the sniper"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "community. One of the most serious"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "complaints has been the reports of the"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "weapon firing on its own. God damn it."}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "Reminds me of the SIG fiasco. Some"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "videos posted online seem to confirm"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "that this can happen just by"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "manipulating the bolt in a certain way"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "under certain conditions. More videos"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "started coming out after that and the"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "military even issued a stop order to"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "cease using the Mark 22 until the issue"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "was fixed. If these reports are true, it"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "points to a mechanical flaw. But the"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "issue has been covered widely in the"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "media. It's possible it's already been"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "addressed by the manufacturers, but even"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "the Mark 22 manual suspiciously says,"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "\"Hey, don't touch the bolt if there is a"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "misfire. Don't do that.\" But the most"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "common complaint about the Mark 22 is"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "its weight. The 338 version with all of"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "its gadgets and what have you pushed"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "past 17 lb, which is like carrying a"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "freaking car tire or bowling ball"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "everywhere. That's still light compared"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "to the absolute limit of sniper rifles"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "today. A Ukrainian sniper claimed in"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "2025 to have killed two enemies with one"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "single round from 4,000 m or 2 1/2 m"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "away with a 14.5 mil round. That's about"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "a 25 kg or 55lb rifle we're talking"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "about that you got a hump everywhere."}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "They set a record for the longest shot"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "in history though. What that essentially"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "represents I think is the end game as"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "far as I can see because that's as far"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "as anyone can legitimately see with any"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "rifle. You can't really get a line of"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "sight out past 2 and a half miles in"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "many places. I can't show the whole"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "clip, but they took video evidence of"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "it. though it's rare to be able to have"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "that kind of line of sight that far"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "unless we invent heat seeeking homing"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "missile bullets. We may have reached our"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "limit with the absolute distance here."}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "The fourth emerging enabler today though"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "that might push shots even further is in"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "coordination with drones and AI"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "technology as that shot at 4,000 m was"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "reportedly made thanks to a drone"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "spotter which is well beyond what most"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "opics can even see at. You need a drone"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "hovering closer to the target, feeding"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "target data to you. The Mark22 shows"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "that even something as old school as a"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "boltaction rifle can be reborn for the"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "information age. There will always be a"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "place for the semi-auto snipers in the"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "designated marksman. And who knows what"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "the future of firearms hold, but the"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "next big question is what happens when"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "AI, sensors, and drones start calling"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "the shots for snipers instead of"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "spotters. Oh boy. Can't wait. I'm your"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "average infantryman, Chris Cappy. Check"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "out this video here on firearms if"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "you're interested in another more"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "learning more about the future and next"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "generation weapons in the US Army. Small"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "arms. Thank you for watching. Ending"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "transmission."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:01", "text": "Welcome back you guys. Today we're going"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "to analyze some of the worst, most"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "intense infantry combat footage from"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "around the world. From Ukrainian forces"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "to Chinese People's Liberation Army and"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "even Delta Force, we'll see how no"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "matter how much air power or tanks you"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "might have, the outcome of a battle"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "often comes down to an infantryman and"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "his will to fight. To better understand"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "the type of tactics used and lessons"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "learned, our team created animated maps"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "and 3D recreations of the battles. This"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "rundown is intended to help viewers"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "understand some of the harsh realities"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "of modern infantry combat and the human"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "decisions behind every engagement. Our"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "first engagement is from early in the"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "war in Ukraine where 15 American and"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "British members of Ukrainian Foreign"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "Legion face off against a Russian"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "armored vehicle."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "We need to push back. Move. Move back."}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "Move."}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "The recording we're watching here is"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "being taken by Ben Grant, a veteran of"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "the war in Afghanistan, a former British"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "Royal Marine and a son of a member of"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "Parliament. It starts with the British"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "and American fighters falling back"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "alongside Ukrainian forces after"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "receiving heavy contact. They're"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "evacuating a wounded comrade yelling"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "that they need to get out of there now."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "Come on, my brother. Come on. I've got"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "you. Come on, Dino. You're okay. Come"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "on. Come on, Storm Guard. We got to move"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "now. We're going to die. Move. Grant is"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "helping carry his wounded buddy over his"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "shoulder, encouraging him to move,"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "risking his own life to help rescue his"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "teammate, even though carrying him is"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "slowing him down under heavy enemy fire."}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "It shows the kind of sacrifice"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "individual soldiers make. After a few"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "minutes, they stop at a clearing and use"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "the moment to provide first aid for the"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "wounded soldier by applying a tourniquet"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "to his leg. The medic believes he'll"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "likely keep the leg, but that he's down"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "and out for the remainder of the fight."}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "Because the fight has only started. Now"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "that they've regrouped and rallied, they"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "prepare to do something unexpected."}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "Hold on. Let me just reload. Come with"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "us. Let's try and hit this tank."}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "Where's the road? We're going to get the"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "tank."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "They're going to counterattack an"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "armored vehicle head on. But before we"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "get into that, all of the animation work"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "in today's episode was sponsored by Jaco"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "Fuel because not all energy is created"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "equal. A ton of energy drinks out there"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "have too much caffeine or they're"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "freaking stuffed with tons of sugar in"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "it to get you hooked on them even though"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "it kills your performance. Go is"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "different because they're loaded with"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "atheenine which smooths out the energy"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "and helps your body stay balanced while"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "you get [ __ ] done. And its neutropic"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "blend supports your memory and increases"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "focus because the way you choose to fuel"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "your day should be sustaining your"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "performance for the long run. And you"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "guys, just this past year, I started a"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "family. I started a company. I turned 36"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "freaking years old. And all of this has"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "completely reshaped my perspective on"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "what energy really is. I've learned life"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "is a marathon, not a sprint. That's why"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "Jaco Fuel was created by former Navy"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "Seal commander Jaco Willink because he"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "was tired of fake energy that had a"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "bunch of artificial ingredients. So, he"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "launched Go Energy drinks for high"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "performers. If you want to try what"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "sustained healthy energy feels like,"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "just click my link in the description or"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "the pin comment below or go to"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "jofuel.com and use my code cappy 25 for"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "25% off your first order."}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "My team, where are you? Have you got an"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "anti?"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "Ed, let's go get this tank. Drone"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "surveillance overhead has identified the"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "armor's location. They don't yet know"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "what type of vehicle. Each member of his"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "squad grabs an anti-tank weapon and they"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "close with the armored vehicle. We've"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "geoloccated the battle to this exact"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "location here. Grant and his team uses"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "the terrain to their advantage by going"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "through the dense forest. They move as"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "far from their last known position as"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "possible. They're in the woods here,"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "which is about 15 km north of the major"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "city of Harkke. It's just south of the"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "town of Belellki Pokoti. The road here"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "is a choke point. It's one of the only"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "routes Russian armor can easily take"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "down south into the city of Harkke from"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "the Russian border. So, it's a very"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "strategically important location. The"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "squad sets up a kill zone here for the"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "enemy armored vehicle. They use the"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "woods as cover and concealment to get as"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "close as absolutely possible. A friendly"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "drone is watching overhead, pointing out"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "the location of the Russian force's"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "armor. The troops have with them at"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "least three anti-tank systems. You need"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "redundancy when you go into something"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "like this. What looks like a Czech RPG75"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "that fires a 68mm rocket. It's capable"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "of penetrating 300 mil of armor. Then"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "there's the German Matador. It's a more"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "upgraded more modern anti-tank weapon"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "carried by the soldiers whose point of"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "view that we're looking at here. You can"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "see the probe sticking out of the top of"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "the barrel of the Matador launcher."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "That's its fuse. When the probe is"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "extended, the fuse is set for high"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "explosive anti-tank."}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "Brian, you leave. Go, go, go, go, go."}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "Push, push,"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "go down."}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "Get out the back bar."}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "Right here, we can see it's actually a"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "BTR80 that they're going after, and it's"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "only about 50 m or half a football field"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "away, just far enough away from their"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "weapons for the warheads to arm. But"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "there appears to be a problem. This"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "soldier's RPG75 either fails to fire or"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "the operator fails to deploy it"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "correctly. It's not uncommon for old"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "stock to fail to work, but fortunately"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "for them, the cameraman steps up to fire"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "his matador. The matador has optical"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "scope and further penetrating power of"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "up to 500 mil of armor. We see it's a"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "direct hit. The moment where they choose"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "to expose themselves to potential BTR"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "autoc cannon fire is the moment of"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "truth."}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "The 90 mil warhead flies through the air"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "at 250 m a second. Slams into the side"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "of the BTR80. BTR80 only has about 10 mm"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "of armor rating there, which is really"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "only rated for small arms or not even"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "armor-piercing heavy calibers. It uses a"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "shape charge from the Matador. And the"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "heat warhead produces spalling internal"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "damage to the crew specifically because"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "it's not necessarily meant to get a hit"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "on the engine because the hot fragments"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "fly through the hole and can knock out"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "the soft targets and essentially just"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "destroy the vehicle. Then we switch over"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "to the overhead friendly drone view of"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "the engagement and we can see the"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "Russian vehicle continue to move after"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "being hit. They managed to hit it again"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "but it keeps moving. The Russian BTR is"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "able to back up and drive away under the"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "cover of the tree line, but we see the"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "Ukrainian infantry team is able to hit"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "it again with another anti-tank missile."}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "The final shot they take misses, but at"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "this point, the vehicle is unable to"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "move or the crew has been knocked out."}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "The infantry team then exfiltrates back"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "into the safety of the woods."}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "They have to control the fear and not"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "let it shake their hands. It's difficult"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "to imagine what's going through these"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "soldiers minds at this moment. Most"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "troops I've spoken to about fear say"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "that they turn it off. I've always found"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "disassociating can help, although I"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "don't know if that's mentally healthy."}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "Photographs taken later revealed the"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "extent of the damage done to the BTR80"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "with giant holes ripped through the"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "armor. Since then, the country's second"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "largest city has remained as part of"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "Ukraine so far. The actions of"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "individual soldiers can change history."}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "A key aspect to consider here that we"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "don't often think about or train on is"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "how to conduct an orderly retreat. They"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "could have been fully routed and"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "disorganized while falling back with"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "wounded in the beginning of the"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "engagement, but they instead"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "counterattacked successfully. A lot of"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "people say the Chinese People's"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "Liberation Army has zero combat"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "experience since the 1970s, but that's"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "not entirely accurate. Their forces were"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "involved in a major firefight in Sudan"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "that ended up becoming kind of like"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "China's version of Blackhawk Down. Sort"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "of kind of. It didn't go great for them."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "In July of 2016, the capital city of"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "Juba descended into allout fighting"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "between government troops who were loyal"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "to the president and rebel forces who"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "were aligned with the vice president."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "What was supposed to be a peacekeeping"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "mission turned into a nightmare for the"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "Chinese soldiers who were stationed"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "there under the United Nations flag."}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "There were 700 Chinese troops defending"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "the compound, basically an infantry"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "battalion. 15 of the type 92 wheeled"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "armor vehicles were there with light"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "machine guns. China has deployed"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "hundreds of PLA soldiers as part of the"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "UN mission to protect civilians and"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "secure key areas around the city. These"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "are not combat troops in the most"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "traditional sense. They were lightly"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "armored, lightly armed peacekeepers"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "meant to monitor ceasefires and escort"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "humanitarian convoys. But when the"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "ceasefire broke down, their base"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "suddenly became a target. The fighting"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "spread block by block. Artillery and RPG"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "fire raining throughout the city. In the"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "footage, the perspective comes from"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "cameras inside the Chinese UN"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "peacekeeper compound. It opens with a"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "dusty, chaotic street scene inside Juba."}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "You can see PLA armored personnel"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "carriers painted white with UN markings"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "positioned near the perimeter wall. We"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "can see the Chinese troops are taking"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "cover behind their armored vehicle,"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "scanning the treeine. Several soldiers"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "drag what appears to be an injured"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "comrade back behind cover. The PLA"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "troops appeared to not be well equipped"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "to handle this situation. Some of them"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "demonstrate discipline under fire, but"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "the limitations of the light UN armor"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "and confusing rules of engagement helped"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "to stifle their response. One of the"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "Chinese armored vehicles takes a direct"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "hit from an RPG round. The blasts rip"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "through the hole, killing two Chinese"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "soldiers instantly and wounding six"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "others. We can actually see on video the"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "interior of the destroyed armored"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "vehicle here. The scene of the video is"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "chaotic. Inside the UN compound, Chinese"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "and Rwanda peacekeepers tried to hold"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "their position. According to later"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "reports, some Chinese troops temporarily"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "pulled back after taking heavy fire and"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "were forced to abandon their positions."}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "The battle around the compound lasted"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "for hours. Over 3 days of fighting,"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "there were 73 civilians who were killed"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "and 20 injured. A report found that the"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "UN failed to protect the civilians. The"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "attack killed two Chinese peacekeeper"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "Lee Lee and Yang Shupang. Both were"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "honored by China's Ministry of Defense."}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "And the event was broadcast across"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "Chinese state media as a moment of"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "national mourning. And whatever our"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "opinions on the CCP or the Chinese"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "government might be doesn't really"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "matter because we're looking at these"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "engagements from the individual soldiers"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "perspective. And those Chinese soldiers"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "who died were failed by not having the"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "firepower that they needed on that day."}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "Back in Beijing, the incident sent shock"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "waves through the military"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "establishment. It was one of the first"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "times that modern PLA soldiers had been"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "killed in a foreign conflict zone since"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "their Vietnam border clashes in the"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "1970s. So, this event revealed how a"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "small firefight can influence an entire"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "army because lessons from Sudan, Juba"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "would later go on to influence the PLA"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "and how they operated in their"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "deployments in Mali, Central African"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "Republic, and development of weapons and"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "training after this. If you're finding"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "this rundown valuable so far, hit the"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "like button. The next engagement shows"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "why violence of action is drilled into"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "troops when it comes to urban warfare."}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "Every infantryman's nightmare. Shortly"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "after the October 7th attacks, this"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "battle happened. An Israeli Defense"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "Force engineer was separated from the"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "rest of his platoon inside of a"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "building. As they were clearing a room,"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "he got stuck outside on the balcony. Two"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "Hamas fighters are inside the room"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "still, though, and it's between him and"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "the rest of his platoon. He exchanges"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "gunfire with them and eliminates one of"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "them. The second Hamas fighter shoots at"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "him to suppress him. So, the IDF soldier"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "ducks behind cover. The fighter uses"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "that opening though to throw a grenade"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "onto the balcony, and it blows up"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "directly in front of him, maybe one"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "meter right in front of him, and it"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "sends fragments of shrapnel into him. He"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "seems surprised that he's still alive"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "and just wounded. Picks himself up and"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "does something I would consider pretty"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "unthinkable. He presses forward and"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "charges directly at the enemy. A lot of"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "times we think of grenades as just huge"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "giant fireball explosions that kill"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "everything, but it's not exactly that"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "way in real life. He then gets around a"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "corner and the fighter takes a shot at"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "him, misses, and the IDF soldier empties"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "his magazine into the enemy, dropping"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "him. There's a lot I couldn't show you"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "in this video. We had to edit out and"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "censor. We kind of had to sanitize these"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "clips due to this being YouTube, but if"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "you want to see the uncensored version,"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "I do a weekly combat analysis rundown on"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "Pepperbox if you're interested. The next"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "engagement comes from Ukraine from the"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "Third Assault Brigade during the counter"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "offensive in 2023. This is one of the"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "best examples I could find, best quality"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "video footage that I could pull up of"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "modern assault on a dugin fixed position"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "and trench lines in coordination with"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "drones. There's a lot of lessons to be"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "learned here. It starts with the"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "Ukrainian soldiers taking artillery fire"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "as their squad of five moves up on the"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "enemy trench. They go over the plan for"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "the assault once more beforehand. The"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "plan is for a fire team to suppress the"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "trench as they move up on it and they"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "unload grenades and clear it out. The"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "dark humor of the infantry is on full"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "display, though. One soldier says, \"What"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "if we get killed?\" That would suck."}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "Answers another one. Then another"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "soldier says, \"Let's go. The weight is"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "killing me.\" Soldiers often hate the"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "waiting more than the inevitable. We see"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "the view of the drone that will be"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "assisting them. They begin the assault"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "and some of the Russians start"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "retreating, others surrender after one"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "Ukrainian is wounded. Two Russians are"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "defending a trench here. The Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "infantry move up on them. The Russian"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "soldier in charge goes backs to his"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "lower ranking troops, yells at them, and"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "tells them to go defend while he takes"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "cover. These Russian troops go out and"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "they take their positions and start"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "suppressing fire. The tactics the"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "Ukrainians are using is suppressing the"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "enemy enough by gaining fire superiority"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "through volume of fire. The opposing"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "force will be forced to duck down and be"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "fixed in that position. This allows the"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "Ukrainian team to move up and advance"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "and start deploying their grenades. The"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "thing of note about this battle is the"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "Ukrainian team is in constant contact"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "with the drone overhead, getting"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "realtime update on the position of the"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "Russian soldiers and adjusting their"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "fire based on it. The Russians begin to"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "retreat from the trench. Russian armored"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "vehicles show up at this point. They"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "drop off fresh soldiers to try to hold"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "the line. They're preparing the second"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "line defensive positions. As Russian"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "infantry fall back to other defensive"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "lines, they leave a few soldiers behind"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "to slow the advance. The Ukrainian squad"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "is tasked with assaulting the ridge"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "where dugouts are located on the"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "elevated position overlooking the whole"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "area. They handle it by the book. A"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "Ukrainian sniper has overwatch here. We"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "can see protecting the assaulting"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "element as they attack the dugouts. Here"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "we see a Ukrainian PKM machine gun team"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "is also providing overwatch for the"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "assault on the trench. Their whole job"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "is to look for enemy who might expose"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "themselves and provide suppressing fire."}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "The Ukrainian soldiers assaulting are"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "Team Rubic. They use radios to"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "communicate with command who has a drone"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "view on the ridge and eyes on defensive"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "fortifications. They're told to clear"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "the next four dugouts. Team Rubic finds"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "an old rifle and he jokes that it's a"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "Tuscan raider rifle from Star Wars. They"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "also find some AK-2s and RPGs that"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "they'll use later. All the dugouts so"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "far that have been cleared have been"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "empty. They just toss grenades into each"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "one to be sure, but this one is"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "occupied. A Russian infantryman waiting"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "to ambush them to slow them down, throws"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "a grenade at the Ukrainians. Each side"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "exchanges grenades, but the Russian one"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "lands. Two of the Ukrainians are wounded"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "by the shrapnel, but they survive. The"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "leader of the team, Rubik, starts"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "applying a tourniquet to his arm. This"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "is when the Overwatch PKM team now kicks"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "in. They start laying down suppressive"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "fire on the occupied dugout. More team"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "members begin launching rifle-mounted VA"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "grenades. As soon as they get word that"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "the Rubik team has fallen back a safe"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "distance away, the Russians are able to"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "retreat back from their position and"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "fall back. From the Russians"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "perspective, this is what they were"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "aiming to do. slow down the Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "advance and attrit the incoming forces"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "while team members are able to set up"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "better defensive fortifications to the"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "rear. Since then, Russian forces have"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "pushed back through some of this"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "territory after regrouping once again,"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "showing again why being able to retreat"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "in an orderly way in the long term is so"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "important. I think this engagement shows"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "why air power has difficulty winning"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "wars outright. It requires men to push"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "forward through trenches clearing small"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "dugouts and it requires the infantrymen"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "at the edges of battle and it often"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "comes down to the will of two people."}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "The next engagement is an American"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "special forces battle inside Iraq."}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "American Delta Force commandos and their"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "Kurdish partners conducted a risky"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "pre-dawn raid against the prison being"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "run by ISIS on October 22nd, 2015. One"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "of the only rare examples of footage"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "released by Delta Force, the tightly"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "orchestrated raid started at a prison in"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "the outskirts of Huaji, which is located"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "7 km north of the town of Kirkuk"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "province. Their mission is to prevent"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "the gruesome mass execution of hostages"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "that are being held by a group of ISIS"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "fighters. It was a race against the"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "clock because intelligence had flagged a"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "horrifying development. Satellite"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "imagery had revealed the enemy had"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "started digging mass graves right next"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "to the prison compound. They were making"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "the obvious preparations for executions."}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "Kurdish authorities believed that their"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "hostages faced immediate death. So they"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "made the move to formally request United"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "States support to carry out a"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "directaction rescue. The plan was for US"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "forces to fly in with Kurdish units and"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "deliver them to the target. Anyone who's"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "been on a raid knows how chaotic and"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "challenging it can be a mission like"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "this at night. The adrenaline rush can"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "make it difficult to even think"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "straight. 80 operators, including 30"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "Delta Force loaded into three Chinuk"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "helicopters for the infiltration."}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "Coalition jets, struck roads and likely"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "reinforcement routes ahead of the"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "assault to block any incoming ISIS"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "reinforcements. Once on the ground, the"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "teams attempted to breach the prison"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "walls using explosives, but the breach"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "failed and the assault stalled under"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "heavy smallarms fire from the enemy. And"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "this is where we see how improvisation"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "on the ground and overcoming, adapting"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "and overcoming is so important because"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "Master Sergeant Joshua Wheeler took"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "action and ordered his forces to engage"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "even though that wasn't part of the"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "original plan. The video shows US and"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "Kurdish operators sprinting through"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "hallways as gunfire hits around them."}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "They're improvising at this point and"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "they're coming up with new solutions."}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "They're taking the initiative. Hostages"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "with their hands up are urged to keep"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "moving. The camera pans past an ISIS"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "flag and dark office interiors. A"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "hostage is frisk by the operators."}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "Inside the building, the combat was"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "brutal. Wheeler's team entered the"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "courtyard and provided covering fire to"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "enable movement toward the first main"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "building. In that process, he was struck"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "by enemy smallarms fire. Another Delta"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "team led by then Sergeant Firstclass"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "Thomas Payne scaled the walls separately"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "and gained entry into the second"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "building, rescuing 36 hostages. Payne's"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "team then consolidated for exfiltration."}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "In total, the raid secured the release"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "of 70 hostages. 20 ISIS militants were"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "killed and six were detained. Four"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "Kurdish fighters were wounded and the"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "American Master Sergeant Joshua Wheeler"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "was KIA. And directly after the team"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "extracted, an F-15 Eagle fighter jet"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "bombed the prison into complete dust."}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "It's an example of how quick decisions"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "by soldiers, individual infantrymen on"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "the ground, and sacrifice can change the"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "outcome of a battle. In September 2020,"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "Thomas Payne was awarded the Medal of"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "Honor for Valor during the raid and he"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "became the first living Delta Force"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "member to receive that honor. When you"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "look at all these engagements side by"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "side from the battles in Harkke to"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "Sudan, Syria to Gaza, I think a pattern"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "starts to emerge. Big fancy stealth"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "fighters have an impact on the fight,"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "but it's still the infantrymen who"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "decides how it ultimately ends, who"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "decides what territory is held. The"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "common thread is that split-second human"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "decisions to move forward or freeze or"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "currently would decide if an army"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "collapses like the one did in Syria or"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "in Afghanistan or if they continue to"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "slug it out. There's something"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "intangible about that I think that we"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "can learn from watching combat footage."}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "If you want to see more rundowns like"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "this and analysis with these map"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "animations, there are two episodes that"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "we finished right here that you can"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "watch. I'm your average infantryman,"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "Chris Cappy. Ending transmission."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "The US military has launched a new series of black ops across Mexico and Latin America, the scale of which hasn't"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "been seen in decades. But thanks to recently declassified documents and open- source intelligence, it reveals"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "risky missions that range from contract mercenary coups to covert action by Delta Force. Mom, can we have war? We"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "have war at home. Today's episode is like an iceberg format video where we're going to start with the most crazy and"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "end with the most bat insane stories of US Black Ops in Latin America. Right"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "now, the US is quietly building a new kind of covert battlefield along Mexico's Pacific coast. According to"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "preliminary reports coming from Intelligence Online news service, American operators are already on the"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "ground working inside the state of Baja California with the quiet consent of Mexican authorities."}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "Baja, California is the area of focus for several reasons. From the cartels perspective, it's geographically perfect"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "for trafficking into the United States because it borders the states of California and Arizona. And it's one of"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "the only locations that has coastal access into the US by water for the cartel. From the US officials"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "perspective, it's also the perfect location to start missions, but for several very different reasons. But"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "before we dive into that, if you're a cartel boss or a Delta Force operator, either way, you share one thing in common. You don't want your personal"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "information exposed. And this video sponsor, Delete Me, solved a huge problem that my wife and I were having."}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "We were getting constant scam calls. I'm talking scam robocalls 24 times in a row"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "asking for our bank information. I'm ashamed to admit I actually almost gave one of them my credit card number. He"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "was that convincing and I was that fully stupid. The root of the problem with these scam callers is how they get your"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "phone number in the first place, though. So, Delete Me solved all of this. Their privacy experts just sent me my third"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "privacy report this year, where they continually reviewed 382 listings and removed my information from two"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "websites, scrubbing 16 pieces of info on me that were up there for data brokers to grab. Now, I don't get constant scam"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "rooc calls anymore. It's a little sad though because I don't get any calls anymore. It's tough to make friends in your mid-30s. But if you want to stop"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "scam callers forever, just go to joindeleteme.com/cappy army and use promo code cappy for 20%"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "off or click my link in the description or the pin comment below. Back to the episode. Intelligence Online has"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "reported that Delta Force teams have been slipping across the border for the past several months. They quietly hunt"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "cartel financiers, lab chemists, and smugglers. It's a complex mission. They're tasked with dismantling the"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "cartel's logistics hub that keep the flow of illegal narcotics into the US."}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "It has to be done precisely and without leaving any trace. The reason the US chose Baja California to start their"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "covert action is because special forces have always found it's much easier to insert into coastal regions when there"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "aren't any official land bases available. It's much easier to not get spotted when infiltrating in from the"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "water and there aren't radars or air defense systems in that direction. and exfiltrating by maritime routes leaves"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "less chance of getting bogged down or caught on the ground in a diplomatically sensitive situation that would be"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "awkward turtle for everyone. Independent confirmation of these missions comes from separate reports of the MV Ocean"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "Trader vessel spotted off the coast of Baja California earlier this year. The MV Ocean Trader is a US military asset"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "that's a converted civilian cargo vessel has been modified into a special warfare mother ship. It launches helicopters and"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "small boats to attack targets on nearby shores. We know it was spotted off the coast of Mexico near Verarac Cruz"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "earlier in 2025. The ghost vessel was deployed with its automatic identification system AIS transporter"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "switched off, which means it was trying to draw less attention to itself. 200 operators conducted missions from this"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "vessel for months, making it look like it was just another Taco Tuesday. Sightings of additional Navy floating"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "forward operating bases were spotted entering the Sea of Cortez off Baja California. These ships were used as"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "launching platforms. Intelligence Online spoke with their sources inside Mexico, which reported Seal Team 6 and Delta"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "Force had hit cartel transporters and coastal infrastructure here. Whether they're leaving the Sakario bodied and"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "killed, or if they're just arresting and sabotaging networks, we don't yet know. This method allows US forces though to"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "get as close as possible to the cartel's vital coastal logistics while still maintaining plausible political"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "deniability. It's the who me couldn't be principle of special warfare. They're"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "basically using the same playbook used against ISIS, except this time the targets and their grid coordinates are a"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "lot closer to home. Is it just me or do these reports sound very familiar to Navy Seal infiltration missions that"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "have taken place in North Korea over the past few years? Because the thing is, even though Mexico and the US"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "governments are allegedly working together on this, it's all on the downlow to avoid any public"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "embarrassment for both countries. When the US and Mexican intelligence agents tell people where they met, they just"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "say at a friend's party. In order to accomplish this mission, the US Defense Intelligence Agency joined forces with"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "the CIA and JOCK to trace the drug shipment's full journey to Baja"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "California. They narrowed in on ships docking near at Manzanilo and Ensanatada"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "ports. This is where the cartel used tiny boats and submarines to move drugs into the continental US. American"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "operators targeted stash houses and trucking routes that run over land. They"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "hit warehouses to disrupt the ground transportation and started tracking each underground cartel tunnel. To do this,"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "they use what intelligence analysts call target packages, which are dossier packed with satellite coordinates, phone"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "intercepts. They've got everything in there, including the location of Tijana's best tacos. But most importantly, windows of vulnerability."}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "When will cartel members be at their most exposed? This way, the strike team knows who to hit, where to land, and"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "when to move. to build these packets out overhead. A number of surveillance drones keep watch over routes in Mexico."}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "We've known since 2024, it's been confirmed that the CIA is flying Reaper drones over Mexico, but now we've"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "learned that they're also deploying underwater drones along Mexico's Pacific coast. Take a look at Echo Voyager. It's"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "an underwater system that's equipped with ultra sensitive acoustic sensors that look for vessels that are unloading"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "narcotic precursors from China. These are the kind of stealth raids that never"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "make the evening news until years later. And to that point, further evidence of"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "this comes from the White House telling Congress on October 2nd in an unclassified letter that the United"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "States now considers itself at non- international armed conflict with the cartels. In legal terms, that"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "declaration changes everything. basically grants the authority to the military to kill enemy fighters, detain"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "them without trials, and try them in military courts. It's a very similar legal gray zone to what we used in the"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "global war on terror and the military operations against pirates off the coast of Africa in the 2010s. For decades,"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "America fought its drug war with law enforcement and diplomacy. Now, it's beginning to fight it with soldiers."}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "These reports are still preliminary, and although I trust the source, it hasn't been confirmed or leaked widely."}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "However, mainstream confirmation of these kind of missions has recently come out in a September 10th Reuters article"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "that spoke with 60 current former US Mexican security sources, including CIA"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "officers and diplomats from both countries. The article confirms the CIA has trained and funded a unit inside"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "Mexico called GAN, who've participated in the most high-profile cartel boss"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "eliminations over the past few years. Something that we've seen unconfirmed"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "reports of going back for years now. President Trump confirmed moments ago authorizing a covert CIA operation in"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "Venezuela. But the biggest sign of the buildup of mission tempo south of the border comes"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "from this development here. This is Special Operations Command North or sock North. It's the new nerve center of"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "these operations. Their focus stretches from defending the Arctic against Russia in the north through Canada and down to"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "Mexico and the Caribbean. Just last year, they cut a ribbon on a $55 million"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "brand new headquarters in Colorado near Northcom. Since 2013, Sock North was"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "really mainly an onpaper command. Technically, it existed, sure, but it didn't have any sexy funding or"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "missions. Nothing's worse than having a whole arms room worth of weapons and nothing and nobody to expend them on."}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "Unlike Sock EUR, which was helping doing secret squirrel, assisting Ukraine's"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "defense, or socks with their seemingly neverending missions from the Middle East, and Sock Pac, who of course are"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "preparing for conflict with China, Sock North, had a bit of an identity crisis that backpacking through Europe wasn't"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "going to solve. They had no clear mission or enemy, just a kind of abstract directive to defend the"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "homeland, quote unquote, which sounds like many of the type of platitudes that you hear in army briefings, but it"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "doesn't give you any real structure. Ideas were floated that they could track Russian submarines in the Arctic or"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "train on extreme cold conditions. Basically, it's those meetings you have in the fourth quarter about how you're"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "going to blow your annual budget. But now, Sock North is getting reorganized and refocused. New life is breathed into"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "them around the job of dismantling the cartel. Internal documents reviewed by reporters show that the command was"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "ordered to treat the cartel like insurgent armies. This distinction is a massive change that is going to rewrite"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "the rules for how they operate here. The shift has transformed sock North now into a sprawling intelligence machine."}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "The way it works is they have two groups. One that's called J2X and one that's called J3X directorates. J2X"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "handles collection of intelligence. They're basically the bean counters. And J3X is the operations wing that pulls"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "the triggers. Every group of friends have their J2X and J3X friends, right? I"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "got bullied throughout high school for my unibrow, so I think I might have been J2X. Wait, my bullies were girls? That's"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "even worse. But they handle sensitive activities so covert that disclosure could damage foreign relations around"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "them. orbit a constellation of specialized cells that you've probably never heard of. Soft TOPS is there to"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "translate the national directives from the politicians into actual strike"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "plans. And SAFE is another group that fuses surveillance and human intel into"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "actionable targets. And Paz is a terrifying AIdriven pattern analysis"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "team that uses signals, imagery, and open- source data to predict future cartel movements. Nothing to worry"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "about. just run by Palunteer, so you know it's all, you know, squeaky clean. A forward element of Sock North operates"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "from inside the US embassy in Mexico City alongside CIA and FBI personnel and"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "supposedly it's on the top floor, meaning that it has a lot of poll. Another contingent works out of an"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "intelligence fusion center in San Diego. When cartel suspects are detained by law enforcement, Sock North interrogators"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "are the ones who quote unquote triage them, which is a polite way of saying interrogate. And one of the little known"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "ways that these teams are operating in Mexico now are called the Intelligence Support Activity or ISA. Intelligence"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "Online publications report that since February 2025, several ISA teams have"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "discreetly infiltrated into the border states in Mexico of Tama Lipas, Novele"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "Leon, and MOAN. These are all key cartel logistics hubs. Unlike the CIA though,"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "which sends officers abroad under diplomatic cover, ISA teams are embedded straight into special forces command."}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "And they actually work in pairs under false identities inside the densest, most dangerous pockets. So if you're"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "living in Mexico and you notice two dudes show up from out of town with regulation mustaches and aviator sunglasses, they might be ISA. They feed"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "real-time targeting and technical cues directly to the shooters. The ISAs, formerly known as Task Force Orange, and"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "before that they were known as Field Operations Group or FOG. They were first stood up in response to that failed"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "original operations eagleclaw mission that was took place in Iran in the 1980s"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "that partly failed according to them because the CIA withheld intelligence from Delta Force. So basically special"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "ops ever since then has been paranoid that they need their own intel service and within the intelligence community"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "anyone who's in the know calls them and simply refers to them as the activity."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "The activity has been given the job of penetrating the cartels networks and gaining an understanding of who their"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "family contacts are, who their logisticians are. These are the on the ground espionage missions to collect"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "what's called pattern of life data. This means tracking frequency of truck movements, timing of nighttime loading,"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "reoccurring phone clusters, suspicious shell company paperwork, and any strange charges to only cartels. Analysts then"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "corroborate these patterns with other sources like public seizures, port manifests, and local reporting to make"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "an evidence-based case about the health of any single logistics node. ISA"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "operatives have planted tactical listening and video surveillance devices near the I69 and I35 highways that lead"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "into the US. This collects valuable video surveillance and these devices are"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "put specifically around locations where chemical precursors or fentanyl are brought in. Now, if you're like me,"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "you're probably thinking, \"What is Mexico's role in all of this?\" Well, it's complicated. Officially, Mexico's president and the US government have"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "downplayed any action in the public eye and in news reports. But behind the scenes, the two are working closely"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "together with their counterparts because they have aligned interests when it comes to destroying the cartel. There's"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "evidence that this quiet cooperation goes back decades. And that comes from a surprising place. One of the most"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "surprising declassifications of all of 2025 happened in March when 80,000"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "documents were released from the JFK assassination files of all places. It"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "revealed that the CIA spied extensively with Mexico as partners. Nothing bonds"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "countries together better than shared secrets and mutual dislike of other countries. The document showed that some"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "of the agency's largest surveillance operations in Latin America were actually invited in. The CIA is a lot"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "like a vampire. You have to invite them in. Those are the rules. In 1958, Mexican President Aldalfo Lopez Mateos"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "personally approached the CIA's Mexico City intelligence station with a proposal for a joint spying operation"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "called LeanVoy. The deal was easy enough. Mexico would let the CIA tap the phones of the Soviets and Cuban"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "embassies in Mexico City, and in return, the US would share the intelligence. But"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "the operation ended up growing into one of the biggest joint surveillance programs in CIA history. Run out of a"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "secret facility staffed by Mexican army personnel. It was an I won't tell if you won't kind of relationship. Declassified"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "documents show the Mexican government even gave the CIA access to phone lines of its own political rivals. It was like"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "opening a Mexican Pandora's box. For decades, the US and Mexico denied any partnership. But the truth is, their"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "cooperation lasted far longer than anyone imagined, continuing well into the 1990s. The CIA's mission in Mexico"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "included infiltrating student groups, recruiting spies inside Mexican foreign ministry, and monitoring any anti-US"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "sentiment across the country. Isn't it amazing the kind of things that we can accomplish when we put our heads"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "together? And if it sounds like the kind of story Hollywood would dream up, it's actually just a continuation of a"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "playbook that's been used before. To see where it came from, you have to go to another hidden war of cooperation that"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "the United States very recently fought in Latin America that you're probably not aware of. The Washington Post"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "reported this in detail when they revealed there was a 2008 CIA backed campaign in Colombia where American"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "intelligence and special forces helped hunt down the leaders of what was then the largest and most heavily funded"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "insurgency on Earth, the FARC. More than 30 US and Colombian officials confirmed the details of the report and a"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "previously unknown CIA program in cooperation with Colombian forces aimed"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "at the rebel leaders. The groundwork for covert action in Colombia has been laid since the early 1990s when cooperation"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "really kicked off. Plan Colombia has been seen as largely responsible for destroying the drug cartels in Colombia"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "in detail, although there has been a resurgence recently. But in the early 2000s, Colombia looked like a country"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "that was on the edge of falling apart. The FARC gorillas, a Marxist army of nearly 20,000 fighters, controlled big"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "stretches of jungle. They funded themselves with cocaine and ransom money. And it seemed like they were"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "winning the war and terrorizing the country. Mayors were assassinated, police stations bombed, and thousands of"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "people were kidnapped every year. Washington was watching all of this and thinking, \"If Colombia collapses, the"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "entire drug trade just moves north.\" And that's when the CIA stepped in. President George W. Bush signed off on a"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "covert program that would stay secret for almost a decade. A program that gave Colombia something it never had before."}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "Realtime intelligence and precision strike capability. Inside the US embassy in Bogata, the agency set up what"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "insiders called the bunker. It was a small low ceiling room packed with computers, analysts, and comms gear. CIA"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "officers worked side by side with Colombian intelligence and NSA techs. They handled the signal intercepts,"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "phone calls, radios, GPS trackers, whatever they could get. The mission was straightforward. You got to find FARC's"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "leadership, fix their position, hand those coordinates to the Colombian Air Force. There was just one problem,"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "though. Colombia didn't have the tools to hit those targets. Their Air Force was mainly flying old turborop planes"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "that couldn't deliver strike packages that were precise. So, an American Air Force colonel came up with an idea. He"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "figured out how to mount these $30,000 GPS guidance kits that were relatively cheap, the same ones used on US smart"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "bombs onto Colombia's aging 500lb Mark82 gravity bombs. Engineers from Rathon"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "helped retrofit them on two small A37 Dragonfly jets and Brazilianmade Super"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "Takanos. Overnight, Colombia's clunky air force had become a precision strike platform. The first test came in"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "September in 2007. The target was Thomas Media Kirkus, who is better known by Negro AIO, the FARC chief drug"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "trafficker. He was responsible for moving tons of cocaine and funding most of the insurgency operations. Using"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "coordinates that were gathered by the CIA and confirmed through NSA intercepts, Colombian pilots released"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "several of the modified bombs from 20,000 ft. The jungle canopy lit up like"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "daylight. When troops reached the camp, the only thing left of the drug trafficker was his leg, but the DNA"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "confirmed it. Inside the bunker, American and Colombia officers broke into a pause. It had worked exactly as"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "designed. 6 weeks later, the same playbook was used again. Gustavo Rio Videas, known as Martin Caliber, was"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "tracked through his cell phone and taken out by another smart bomb. His entire front collapsed, and afterwards,"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "hundreds of his fighters deserted. From that point on, the CIA backed bombing campaign went into overdrive in"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "Colombia. The method was deadly. US-g guided dragon flies dropping smart bombs from high altitude, then low-flying"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "tacos followed with a bunch of conventional bombs to mask their precision capability. So, the enemy"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "didn't know that they were able to do this. An AC47 gunship strafeed the area"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "while ground troops moved in to collect intelligence. And by early 2008, FARC leaders had gone into hiding, sleeping"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "in different camps every night, which really messed up their ability to operate. But one commander, Raul Royes,"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "the group's number two, made a mistake. He set up a base just across the border inside Ecuador, thinking that he was"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "outside the reach of Colombian and American forces. But he was very wrong. Shortly after midnight on March 1st,"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "2008, Colombian jets took off from their own territory, and they stayed inside Colombian airspace, but launched GPSG"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "guided bombs that glided across the border and obliterated Reyes's camp. The hit was surgical. Reyes and 20 of his"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "men were killed instantly. When Colombian troops crossed over to collect the body, they grabbed laptops and hard"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "drives full of FARC communications, drug routes, and safe house coordinates. It was the biggest intelligence windfall of"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "the entire war. The world of course only saw the fallout of that. Ecuador and Venezuela called Colombia a terrorist"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "state. Hugo Chavez in Venezuela sent tanks to the border. Diplomats scrambled to prevent another regional war. This"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "all happened because that strike took place in Ecuador. But behind closed doors, US officials were celebrating."}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "The strike had proven that a small Latin American air force with intelligence from America and targeting could carry"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "out a precise kill halfway across a jungle border. It was the perfect mix of"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "local hands and US brain power. By the end of the decade, Colombia's air force had become one of the most capable in"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "the region. Under the next president, Juan Manuel Santos, the country killed or captured 47 top FARC leaders, triple"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "the number under his predecessor. The CIA eventually handed over the encryption keys that controlled these smart bombs because before it was really"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "just completely controlled by if the CIA wanted them to use it. So it was kind of a symbolic gesture that showed that"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "Colombia had earned the trust and that the two had worked together evenly. That was the first chapter of the war,"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "precision from above. The second one was all about patience on the ground. Back in 2003, a small US aircraft on a"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "counter narcotic mission had gone down in rebel territory. Four Americans were on board. One was executed on the spot"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "when they were captured. Three other were taken hostage. For years, their location was a mystery. Inside the same"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "embassy compound in Colombia, CIA officers and JC operators built an intelligence cell dedicated solely to"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "finding these hostages. NSA analysts tracked phone calls through the jungle, and CIA case officers paid informants"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "for any scrap of information. By 2008, the US had quietly inserted small J-C"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "teams, including Delta Force and Navy Seal Team 6 into Colombia. They operated"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "under the cover of training missions, setting up forward bases, near suspected FAR camps, and running long range"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "reconnaissance, but no one knew about it because it said they thought that they were just there for training. Hundreds"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "of American operators rotated through, waiting for the right chance to strike. That chance came in July 2008. Colombian"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "intelligence officers with guidance from their American partners staged an elaborate deception that is questionable"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "by some standards. They posed as members of a humanitarian group complete with fake Red Cross markings. They tricked"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "FARC into handing over the hostages for transfer. The three Americans along with 12 other captives were flown to safety"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "without a single shot fired. Jaw quick reaction teams were already in place as a plan B. If the ruse failed, these"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "American operators were ready to storm the camp. But it didn't fail. The rescue went off perfectly. And when the"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "hostages stepped off the helicopter in Bogata, the bunker of the CIA and Colombian officials erupted in applause"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "again, just like it had after the first smart bomb strike. For most Americans, the war in Colombia was a footnote. But"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "for the CIA, NSA, and a small number of US special operators who cycled through the jungles, it was proof that"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "intelligence and precision could do what massive wars could not. Quietly dismantle an insurgency, one target at a"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "time. Across Latin America, similar patterns started to appear. Covert missions, deniable contractors, and"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "foreign governments quietly asking for American help. Nowhere has that shadow war grown more tangible and more tangled"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "than in Venezuela. But unlike Colombia, not every operation there runs through Washington. In the years after the war"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "on terror, when that round down, thousands of former US special operators, Green Berets, SEALs, and"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "Rangers left the military and took their skills to the private sector. What used to be black ops has turned into big"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "business. Today, the global private military industries worth more than $200 billion in revenue, and Venezuela has"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "become one of the newest battlegrounds. The money appears to be the motivation for when three ex US Army Green Berets"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "tried to overthrow the Venezuelan government in Operation Gideon. The story begins in February 2018 when"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "former Green Beret Jordan Goodro founded a small private military company called Silver Corp USA. Originally from Canada,"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "Gudro lateralled over from the Canadian Armed Forces to the US Special Forces. After more than a decade of combat"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "deployments in Iraq, Afghanistan is part of 10th Special Forces Group, Gudro was forced to medically retire after a"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "parachute accident in 2014. Now a naturalized US citizen though, Gudro original concept for Silver Corp USA was"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "a fairly typical private security firm. But when he met with Venezuelan officials who were opposed to Maduro's"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "regime started to morph into something else. These former Venezuelan officials"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "signed for $213 million with Gordo's Silver Corp. He just had to overthrow"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "Maduro in an armed coup. The idea was that after they successfully took control of the country, the opposition"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "group would have access to the country's finances and could pay the mercenaries from that. Tensions were already rising"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "between the US and Venezuela in 2020. This is why Gudo believed that he had"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "the full support of the US government. But even after pitching his plan directly to highlevel staff, Grudo"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "didn't secure any funding or operational support. Although it was reported that he wasn't told to not do it either. So"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "instead, he decided to coordinate with Alaka, a retired major general in the Venezuelan army who was also now part of"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "the opposition. Alaka resided next door in Colombia where he led a band of other dissident who longed to return to"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "Venezuela and be on top. Their dream was to overthrow Nicholas Maduro. To help motivate this group of military"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "deserters turned revolutionaries, Alaka told the dissident that Gudro was actually working with the American CIA"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "and that the coming coup would have the full backing of the US government, which made it easier to join up. Alaka even"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "tried to recruit the Colombian intelligence director. It like their version of the CIA by using the same"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "line, saying that the mission had CIA backing. But he failed to realize that all the Colombian intelligence agents"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "had to do was go to the CIA field office in Bogata and ask about it. The CIA officers quickly denied any claims that"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "Gordeau was working for them. Still, Gordeau and Alaka were convinced that they could pull off what they now called"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "Operation Gideon. So, the plan went forward. On May 20th, 2020, 60 of Alaka's dissident boarded these small"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "fishing boats in Colombia along with two private military contractors from Silver"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "Corp, USA. Luke Denman and Arian Bry were both former Green Berets in the"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "American military, just like Gordeau, and they supplied both weapons and operational expertise for the coup"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "attempt. They were the guys on the ground that would actually go on the invasion. Together, the Dissident and Silver Corp contractors set off before"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "dawn on a 400-mile one-way trip across the Caribbean Sea towards Venezuela."}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "Their target was a wide beach on the coast of Makudo, where they'd met other opposition members who they thought"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "would supply them with more weapons and armored vehicles once they were in Venezuela. From there, the combined"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "force thought that they would dash the short distance to the capital city of Caracus and topple the Venezuelan"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "regime. Gudau even started live tweeting the events from his home in Florida,"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "eager to publicize the plan success. Our men are continuing to fight right now. Our units have been activated in"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "the south, west, and east of Venezuela. Except the landing force never actually made it past the beach. The Venezuelan"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "authorities had been tipped off ahead of time of the plan and were just waiting for them even before they left Colombia."}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "A vicious firefight broke out. Small arms exchange as the first boat arrived."}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "The entire first wave of the operation was KIA killed on site. The second boat, which had both American Silver Corp"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "contractors on board, tried several alternative landing sites before scrubbing the mission and turning back"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "out to sea. But they were chased down and arrested by Venezuelan Coast Guard boats and helicopters. The Venezuelan"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "authorities later announced 17 insurgents captured and the rest killed in what turned out to be a colossal"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "failure. that the entire incident was then nicknamed the Bay of Piglets after a similar failed plan to invade Cuba"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "back during the Cold War and Nicholas Maduro denounced the invasion as a CIA assassination plot and classified the"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "two ex green beret Americans as terrorist mercenaries treated as"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "mercenaries and without the international legal protection of PS Americans were forced to make videotape"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "confessions and sentenced to 20 years in prison. Gordau himself was charged in the US with illegally exporting weapons"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "to Colombia as part of the operation and arrested pending trial in 2024. And as"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "of Alaka, that retired Venezuelan major general who told everyone in South America Goodell was working for the CIA,"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "he was arrested on unrelated narot trafficking charges in 2020 before the invasion even took place. But if you"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "want to understand just how messy America's covert wars in Latin America can get, just have to look at the ATF."}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "Yes, the same agency known for regulating cigarette sales and checking serial numbers on shotguns because the"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "ATF somehow managed to run one of the most disastrous undercover operations in US history in Mexico. It started with a"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "plan that looked good on paper and ended with bodies on both sides of the border. The plan began in 2005 as Project"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "Gunrunner. Field agents in Texas and Arizona went to work. They watched straw purchasers, men with cash, no questions"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "asked, buying guns. They wrote reports. They logged serial numbers. They made arrests. The theory was neat and easy."}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "Pin the guns to the people who sold them and then follow the network upstream. Then something in that logic came apart."}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "By 2009, a Phoenix office renamed a part of the operation. They called it Fast and Furious. A tongue-in-cheek nod to"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "car racing movie because suspects were using auto shops as stash houses. People laughed about the name until the"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "laughter stopped making sense. The new play was daring or reckless, depending on who told the story. Agents were told"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "to let the suspects buy guns and walk away. The hope was to follow the guns to"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "the cartel bosses and bring down the entire network. Field agents watched men stroll into gun stores with duffel bags"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "of cash, load up dozens of rifles, and then drive south across the border. Agents begged supervisors to stop the"}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "buys. They were told to stand down. We have it handled, they said. The phrase"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "became a line that would break careers. Thousands of weapons slipped through. Congressional testimony and ATF records"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "later showed the magnitude. More than 2,000 firearms were allowed to cross the border into Mexico. AK-47s, AR-15s,"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "Barrett 50 cal rifles. All of those made their way to the cartel. Only a few were"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "ever recovered. The rest vanished into the desert and cartel armories. Then the operation blended into real life."}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "Mexican soldiers pulled a truck in Niko Sonora and found a 50 caliber beaolf and"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "41 AK-47s. And weeks later, a cash turned up in Baja California with serial"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "numbers that matched ATF files. Each seizure began to look like a breadcrumb trail that led directly back to the"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "agency meant to stop the flow. Deaths made the scandal impossible to ignore. In 2010, Border Patrol agent Brian Terry"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "was killed. Investigators found two rifles from the Fast and Furious operation at the scene. Around the same"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "time, three other rifles tied to the operation were linked to the massacre of 15 high school students in Huarez."}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "Congress demanded accountability. The attorney general, denied authorizing the tactics. That denial led to an"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "unprecedented moment. Eric Holder, the attorney general, was held in contempt of Congress, the first sitting attorney"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "general to face that sanction. Mexico's government reacted with fury. Leaders in Mexico accused Washington of arming the"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "cartels and the two countries were supposed to fight together. The fallout kept getting messier. Project Gunrunner"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "had been intended to choke cartel violence. Basically, what ended up happening was it became one of the largest transfers of American weapons to"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "organized crime in recent history. Files went missing, memories blurred, explanations multiplied. The ATF had"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "just miscalculated. They said it had become the central paradox of its own mission. But Venezuela wasn't the only"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "stage for these rogue American operators. Haiti is no stranger to political turmoil. Of course, their"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "president, Moise, already survived an attempt on his life in February 2021. But just as that assassination attempt"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "was foiled, another one was in the works. Emanuel Sanan, who claims to be both a pastor and a doctor, wanted the"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "presidency for himself. So, he teamed up with investor Walter Ventila to finance"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "his own little revolutionary coup. The two approached Interago and CTU security"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "through a network of acquaintances to provide the muscle for this operation. With the help of former Colombian"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "soldiers, CTU ran an elaborate bait and switch scheme through WhatsApp, promising Colombian veterans $3,000 a"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "month for some boring executive protection jobs. A sweet job for security contractor. It's actually a"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "very common practice for Colombian soldiers to go work in the private sector overseas after their contract"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "with the army are finished. After years fighting the cartel, there just isn't a lot of money in Colombia's civilian"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "economy for veterans and their skills. With so many veterans looking for security work, Colombia's actually"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "become the world's largest exporter of soldiers for hire, averaging around 500 new contractors per month. So none of"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "the Colombian vets batted an eye at the job until they actually arrived in Haiti and found out the true nature of their"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "contracts. According to court documents, San Vetila and CTu security folks met in"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "South Florida several times between February and July to plan the attack on President Moise. The whole group were"}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "acting under contract with CTU security, which is that small private security"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "company based in Miami. Exactly how a small private security company in Florida got into the presidential"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "assassination business is still under investigation, but Haitian and US law enforcement have pieced together enough"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "of what happened next in this story to charge Interagro, who's the CEO and founder of CTU security, and three other"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "US citizens, with conspiracy to kill or kidnap persons outside the US. Some of"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "the conspirators had worked as informants for the FBI and DEA in the past and used their limited knowledge to"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "claim the plot had the official backing of the US government to legitimize their plot and attract more capital through a"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "series of shell companies. There's no shortage of corrupt officials within Haiti. So San and his friends bribe"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "police and security guards to make sure President Moy's security detail wouldn't put up a fight. The president's own"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "security chief allegedly paid out $80,000 to make sure there wouldn't be any trouble on the night of the attack."}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "Each of the mercenaries team leaders were given these Samsung Galaxy phones to keep in contact and to provide"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "photographic proof that they'd done the job. In the early morning hours on July 7th, 2021, a convoy of vehicles drove up"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "to a large residence in Plland 5 neighborhood of Porta Prince, Haiti. Gunmen dressed in black exited the"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:06", "text": "vehicles and converged on the residents, taking a security guard by surprise and forcing him to lay down on the street."}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "One of the gunmen told residents to stay away. And he kept shouting, \"This is a DEA operation. Everyone stay down.\""}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "According to the investigation afterwards, there were 26 Colombian mercs alongside two Haitian-Americans"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "acting as interpreters. Or at least that's what they told police afterwards. Thanks to the bribes and enticements by"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "San and his company, there were only six security guards on duty that night. After subduing the gate guard, the"}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "mercenaries stormed into the residence, opening up with automatic weapons as soon as they entered the front courtyard. The Mercs even had drones"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:45", "text": "with grenades overhead, dropping explosives all around the building to panic the guards and cut off escape."}, {"start": "00:36:45", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "President Moise frantically called for help through both his cell phone and over the police radio, but no help"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "arrived. The mercenaries breached the presidential residence within 30 minutes and assassinated President Moise,"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "shooting him 12 times and riddling the house with bullets as they ransacked the place. As the contract killers left the"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "scene, they stole briefcases of cash, important documents, and the surveillance tapes to cover their"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:15", "text": "tracks. Yet, first responders from the Haitian National Police arrived sooner than the Merks expected. Even with the"}, {"start": "00:37:15", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "presidential security chief sloww walking the response, all the machine gun fire and explosives had brought the"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "hammer down on the Mercs just as they were leaving the residents. They had more than four stars warning level. A"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "vicious gun battle broke out as police pursued the assassins through the streets of Porta Prince. The Mercs and"}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "the police fought for hours as some of the assassins barricaded themselves in buildings along with three policemen"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "that they' taken hostage. 11 of the killers even breached the Taiwan embassy grounds and the police had to seek"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:51", "text": "special permission from the Taiwanese government to enter the complex and round up the suspects. There was so much"}, {"start": "00:37:51", "end": "00:37:57", "text": "chaos in the streets that the residents of Porter Prince themselves joined the police rooting out the last of the"}, {"start": "00:37:57", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "Colombian mercenaries and burning their getaway cars. By the end of the day, three of the mercenaries were killed in"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "the running gun battle and 18 were arrested. The rest of the assassination team were tracked down after an"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "international manhunt with the aid of the US, Dominican, Jamaican, and even Turkish law enforcement agencies. The"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:21", "text": "tangled web of conspirators and financeers for the assassination was so wide that to this day, the investigation"}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "and criminal trials are still ongoing. But Hades troubles were far from over. Since the assassination of President"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "Moise in 2021, gang violence has run rampant and destabilized the whole"}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "country. Attempts to convene with multinational security support from the UN to provide critically needed law"}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:44", "text": "enforcement aid to the country has failed. Despite the trickle of additional police officers and resources"}, {"start": "00:38:44", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "from Kenya and other countries, Haiti saw more than 2,000 murders in just the"}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:55", "text": "first 3 months of 2025. As criminal groups have run a muk through the capital, the Haitian transitionary group"}, {"start": "00:38:55", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "is getting desperate for any solution to chaos, no matter the cost. Enter Eric Prince, former Navy Seal, founder of"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "Blackwater Security. He's about as controversial a figure as you can get in the PMC world. Yet, for all his shadowy"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:15", "text": "history and political criticisms, Eric Prince has a reputation for getting things done. And that's all that the"}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "Haitian government cares about right now. Since his days at Blackwater, Eric Prince has gone on to found or co-found"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:28", "text": "dozens of security and logistics related businesses throughout the world. Eric Prince left as CEO of Blackwater in 2009"}, {"start": "00:39:28", "end": "00:39:34", "text": "and sold the company in 2010, but he's continued to make headlines ever since. His latest company, Vectus Global,"}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "advertises a full range of security and infrastructure services to governments, NOS's, and private clients alike."}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "Exactly what that means, well, I'm sure it depends on the client and the contract. Corporate boardroom language"}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "aside, Haiti is a country very much lacking in both security and infrastructure right now. and they hired"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "Vectus Global along with other PMC's in June 2025. The deal is still very"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "secretive, but thanks to leaks, we know that around 200 contractors from Vectus are on their way to Haiti for a one-year"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "term. Once in country, contractors are tasked with advising and supporting the Haitian National Police, UN security"}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:15", "text": "support, to retake as much of the territory from the mega gangs that have banded together and terrorized the"}, {"start": "00:40:15", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "capital for years. According to insider leaks, once orders returned and restored, Vectus personnel will also"}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:28", "text": "assist the government on a longer term to help restore revenue flow and tax collection. While it makes sense for"}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "Haiti to restart their economy and return to normal as soon as possible, the plan for private contractors to take"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "the lead on that has international human rights agencies in an uproar. They say that Hades oligarchs and elites have"}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "used mercenaries to establish control over 90% of Hades wealth. Recent black ops across Latin America are insane. The"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "Shadow War is unlike anything we've seen since the 1980s when the US and Soviets last went on a toppling and supporting"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "governments throughout here. If you want to see more stories like this, you could check out these videos here. I'm your average infanterman, Chris Cappy. Ending"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "transmission."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Right now, thousands of American troops"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "are deploying to American cities around"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "the country. One of these soldiers is"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "named Adam Reyes. Let's say he's 19"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "years old from a quiet suburb in"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "Illinois. Adam enlisted in the National"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "Guard a year ago as a way to serve his"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "country one weekend a month and to help"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "pay for classes at Northern Illinois"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "University. On October 5th, Adam got a"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "text message from his squad leader that"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "read, \"Report to the Armory. We're going"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "to Chicago to protect federal facilities"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "and agents downtown.\" It felt surreal to"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "Adam because growing up, Chicago was the"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "city where he and his family went every"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "year to watch the Thanksgiving Day"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "parade. It was where he and his buddies"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "went on the weekends for concerts and"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "parties. Now, he was going there as a"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "soldier to possibly stop riots and be"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "issued live ammunition. That night, Adam"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "sat at his desk and started writing"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "emails to his professors explaining that"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "he might miss the rest of the semester."}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "Across the whole country, thousands of"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "part-time citizen soldiers were doing"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "the exact same thing. Calling off from"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "work, rearranging child care to fulfill"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "their commitment."}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "National Guard deployment to the Chicago"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "area has begun in controversy over its"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "constitutionality."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "Hundreds of troops from the Texas and"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "Illinois National Guard are now"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "positioned to deploy across the Chicago"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "area."}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "On October 5th, the White House"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "federalized and deployed 300 National"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "Guard troops from Illinois and 400 from"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "Texas to the city of Chicago. So far in"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "2025, the White House has deployed 4,000"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "National Guard soldiers and 700 Marines"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "to Los Angeles, 2,000 to Washington DC,"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "over a 100 to Tennessee, and there are"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "now plans to activate the National Guard"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "in 19 more states. In places like"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "Portland and Chicago, governors are"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "suing to block the deployments and"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "arguing they're unconstitutional. In"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "response, the federal government is"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "threatening to go around them by"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "invoking the Insurrection Act."}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "Meanwhile, Adam's mom texted him links"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "to stories from the news. Some articles"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "called the National Guard's deployment"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "heroic. Others called them pawns in an"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "authoritarian power grab. Adam had never"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "thought much about politics his whole"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "life. He didn't like watching the"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "talking heads on the news channels, and"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "he wasn't the type of guy to argue with"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "you about immigration or crime. But now,"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "he and his unit were at the center of"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "one of the most controversial and"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "politically sensitive military missions"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "in recent history. This channel isn't"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "political. It's not my place to tell you"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "what to think. My purpose here with this"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "channel is to cover issues of national"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "security and discuss it here in the"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "comment section with you. I'm a former"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "Army National Guard soldier who deployed"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "to both Iraq and domestically to New"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "York City to respond to looting"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "alongside police during a hurricane. I"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "have some personal experience with the"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "type of challenging missions that these"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "troops are tasked with. It's my goal to"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "explain the facts of the situation, to"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "put it into historical context, and"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "hopefully be a resource for troops and"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "civilians to better understand what's"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "happening in America in something that's"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "more detailed and complete than a 3minut"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "spot on a news network can be. Because"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "behind these domestic deployments is"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "something much bigger. A continental"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "military operation stretching from Los"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "Angeles to Venezuela. one that is aiming"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "to redefine what national security means"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "at home and test just how far federal"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "powers can reach inside the United"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "States."}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "But before we dive deeper into that, I"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "want to thank this episode sponsor,"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "Supremacy World War II, for sponsoring"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "the 3D animation and map graphics in"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "this video that were done by three"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "separate talented editors. This video's"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "partner is Supremacy World War III, an"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "online PvP real-time grand strategy game"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "that I started playing as a way to kill"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "some downtime when I was stuck at the"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "airport last month, and I found that"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "it's actually an awesome way to unwind"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "and de-stress. I like competing with 99"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "other players in real time online, and"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "it's persistent. The matches last over"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "the course of a couple of weeks. I"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "freaking love the maps, you guys. These"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "remind me of the maps that we make here"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "on our videos. So, my strategy is I"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "build up a crazy force of over a 100"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "modern weapon systems, including tanks,"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "jets, submarines, and then I create a"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "few alliances and declare war on"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "everybody freaking out. The research"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "tree works better than real life"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "military acquisition because I'm able to"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "research more than 250 different real"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "units. It's free. No credit card is"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "required. Just click the link in the"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "description. Try it out if you're"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "looking for a fun way to kill some"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "downtime anywhere, anytime. You guys get"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "an exclusive starter pack with one free"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "seasonal unit like the Elite Frigot"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "that's worth 25 bucks for the next 30"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "days. Try it out. Back to the episode."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "And remember guys, check out Supremacy"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "World War III, the free-to-play online"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "grand strategy game set in the modern"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "global wars that we follow here."}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "Personally, I'm all about building up my"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "army, coming up with an Alexander the"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "Great style strategy. Click my link in"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "the description for an exclusive starter"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "pack today. These domestic US troop"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "deployments happening today are part of"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "a much larger federal immigration"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "operation that's been unfolding across"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "the nation since early 2025."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "That's when the US government began a"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "series of mass deportation raids"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "targeting homes and workplaces across"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "the country. So far, more than 220,000"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "people have been confirmed arrested."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "Roughly 60,000 are now held in detention"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "centers, and estimates are as high as"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "200,000 already deported from inside the"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "United States. Whatever the exact"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "numbers are, though, one thing is for"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "certain. It's the largest interior"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "enforcement effort in modern American"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "history with the stated goal of"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "deporting 1 million people a year or"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "roughly 3,000 arrests a day. The"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "initiative is known as Operation at"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "Large. To give you a sense of its scale,"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "according to federal reports, it"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "combines 3,000 ICE agents, 2,000"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "personnel from the FBI and DEA, and"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "eventually 21,000 National Guard"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "soldiers to be deployed throughout the"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "country. The government is also"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "expanding military bases in Florida to"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "use as deportation hubs, reopening old"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "detention facilities, and coordinating"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "with El Salvador's mega prisons to"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "handle deportes. $170 billion in funding"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "for these enforcement and border"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "security operations has been set aside,"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "making it one of the top priorities in"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "national security. One of the main"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "justifications provided for these troop"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "deployments has been for them to support"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "and protect these deportation"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "operations. But this isn't the first"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "time the United States has carried out a"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "mass deportation campaign. And the last"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "time that it happened, it played out"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "differently, but also sparked a"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "nationwide debate over just how far"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "federal enforcement should reach. In"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "World War II, the US and Mexican"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "governments actually worked together"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "with one another to launch the Brasiro"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "program, which authorized over 5 million"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "Mexican workers to come north into"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "America to fill wartime labor shortages."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "As the US men fought overseas in the"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "war, the program required fair wages and"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "sanitary housing conditions for the"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "Mexican workers. But many US ranchers"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "chose to ignore that rule and instead"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "hired illegal labor from Mexico because"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "it was much cheaper and didn't have"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "those requirements. By the early 1950s,"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "Washington moved to enforce compliance"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "with the Brascio program. President"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "Eisenhower appointed a retired World War"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "II Army general, Joseph Swing, to lead a"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "massive federal deportation campaign. In"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "1954, the government launched what was"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "called Operation [ __ ] Yes, that was"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "really its official name in the"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "newspapers and everything. Border Patrol"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "and Immigration Naturalization Service"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "swept through neighborhoods in 12 men"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "squads and jeeps, stopping anyone who"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "looked Mexican and demanded"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "identification if they didn't have any."}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "Detainees were sent to camps and then"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "deported by bus, train, and ship."}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "Officially, about 30,000 people were"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "deported in just a few months, but over"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "a million were ultimately apprehended."}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "The Eisenhower administration called the"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "operation respect for law, while civil"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "rights groups called the campaign"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "unconstitutional. Today, we're once"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "again seeing largecale federal"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "immigration enforcement. But this time,"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "something major has changed. It's backed"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "by military deployments from the"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "National Guard and some active duty"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "components. These deployments started in"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "June 2025 when ICE raids targeted"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "illegal immigrants at a garment factory"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "and a hardware store downtown. It"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "quickly escalated when protesters"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "clashed with agents at the detention"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "facility. Federal agents fired tear gas"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "and rubber bullets to disperse the"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "crowds while protesters threw rocks and"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "bricks at the police vehicles while they"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "were moving. Police cars were abandoned"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "in the middle of the highway. Looting"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "broke out. Fires were all over the city."}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "That's when 4,000 California Army"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "National Guard soldiers were federalized"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "by the government. And 700 Marines were"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "sent to Los Angeles on a mission to"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "quell the riots. And since then, the"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "protests have regularly happened in ICE"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "facilities around the country. But over"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "the following months, the violence has"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "slowly escalated. In July, a man opened"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "fire on ICE agents during a raid at a"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "marijuana facility. Two months later,"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "another man shot into an ICE"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "transportation vehicle, killing a"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "detainee. After the assassination of"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "political commentator Charlie Kirk, US"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "government officials began stating these"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "domestic deployments went beyond"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "immigration and crime control, and they"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "were now necessary to fight domestic"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "terrorism across the United States. Adam"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "felt shocked by the amount of violence"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "happening in his country. He hadn't"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "experienced anything like this before in"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "his lifetime. His dad said it reminded"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "him of back in the 1960s when there were"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "a string of assassinations, bombings,"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "riots, and unrest in the country. But"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "for Adam's generation, unrest wasn't"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "supposed to look like this. Yet, behind"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "the scenes, government memos and"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "intelligence reports have been quietly"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "reframing the threat, turning internal"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "disorder into a matter of national"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "security. In January, Latin American"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "drug cartels were designated foreign"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "terrorist organizations. Then on"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "September 22nd, the Trump administration"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "officially designated Antifa as a"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "terrorist organization, the first time a"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "domestic group had been targeted in this"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "way. Antifa is a movement of leftist"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "activists in the United States seen at"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "many of these protests. The move to"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "designate them as a terrorist"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "organization was seen largely as"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "symbolic, but it opened the door for the"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "Pentagon to justify using their"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "intelligence, surveillance, and even"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "military assets within the interior of"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "the country. The same argument has been"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "reinforced across multiple federal"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "reports, and the Homeland Security 2025"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "threat assessment devotes major sections"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "to domestic extremism and terrorism. A"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "use of military force in America has"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "always been a sensitive subject"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "throughout history. Since the founding"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "of the country, Americans have been"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "suspicious of domestic troop"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "deployments. The framers of the"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "Constitution had lived through British"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "troops patrolling the streets, enforcing"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "taxes, and even living in their private"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "homes. British troops killed five"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "colonists in the Boston Massacre, which"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "was seen as a warning of what could"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "happen when a military is turned inward."}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "So, the founders built safeguards into"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "the New Republic to try to prevent that."}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "The Third Amendment banned troops from"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "living in civilian homes, and Article 2"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "placed command of the military under an"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "elected civilian president. But that"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "principle was tested almost immediately."}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "In 1794, farmers in western Pennsylvania"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "revolted against a new federal whiskey"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "tax. President George Washington called"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "up state militias to suppress the"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "uprising. The rebellion did collapse,"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "but it exposed the problem. There was no"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "method through which the president could"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "legitimately call up soldiers on US soil"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "to protect the republic. To fix that"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "oversight, Congress passed the"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "Insurrection Act of 1807, giving"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "presidents the power to deploy federal"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "forces domestically, but only when a"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "state requests help or when local"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "authorities can no longer maintain"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "order. Now, two centuries later, the"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "Trump administration is signaling they"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "may use the Insurrection Act if cities"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "do not comply with immigration raids and"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "National Guard deployments, and the"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "nation's third largest city, Chicago, is"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "at the center of all of this. In"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "September, federal ICE agents in full"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "tactical gear and camouflage launched"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "Operation Midway Blitz. The Pentagon"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "reported they authorized civilian law"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "enforcement units from this to stage"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "from an active US military naval base at"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "Naval Station Great Lakes about 40 mi"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "north of downtown Chicago. It's the"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "largest military base in Illinois with"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "infrastructure for vehicles,"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "helicopters, staging, and intelligence"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "collection. And it was the first time"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "there was this level of cooperation"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "between the military and civilian law"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "enforcement. 250 federal agents using"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "140 vehicles launched immigration raids"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "from the naval base. On the night of"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "September 30th, agents repelled from a"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "Blackhawk helicopter on the roof of a"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "fivestory apartment building in the"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "Southshore neighborhood of Chicago where"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "officers say Trenda Aaragua cartel"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "members were using it as a safe house."}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "Armored Bearcat vehicles, unmarked SUVs"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "surrounded the block and established a"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "perimeter. By dawn, officials claimed"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "the raid had resulted in over 40 arrests"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "and seizure of illegal narcotics and"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "firearms. Local residents described the"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "scene as a war zone. Shortly after this,"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "a judge in Illinois ruled that the"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "National Guard deployment was illegal,"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "which temporarily blocked deployments"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "while it went to the higher courts."}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "Ultimately, it's up to the courts to"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "decide if the troop deployments are"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "legal. And the precedent rests on one"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "single law from the 1800s. Cuz after the"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "Civil War in 1865, US troops occupied"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "the southern states to enforce"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "reconstruction and protect newly freed"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "black Americans from violence. For more"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "than a decade, the army occupied the"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "south. But the presence of troops on the"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "streets fueled resentment in the south."}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "So, President Hayes withdrew troops and"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "a year later, Congress passed the Posi"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "Kamitadus Act, which made it illegal to"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "use the US military to enforce domestic"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "law unless Congress specifically"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "authorizes it. But today, the president"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "is using a different legal authority to"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "avoid that issue. The government is"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "deploying the National Guard without"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "congressional or local state leadership"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "approval by using Title 10 US Code"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "12406. It allows the president to"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "activate the guard if the US is quote"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "invaded or is in danger of invasion by a"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "foreign nation or there is a rebellion"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "or in danger of a rebellion. In cities"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "like Los Angeles, Portland, and Chicago,"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "it's drawn lawsuits that have"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "temporarily blocked the deployment of"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "National Guard troops, putting them in"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "limbo while the courts determine if"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "there is legal danger of a rebellion. In"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "addition to this, the federal government"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "is now trying to deploy outofstate Texas"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "National Guard units to Chicago because"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "the Texas governor agrees and supports"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "the move. The laws written in the"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "aftermath of the Civil War were meant to"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "help settle the debate over domestic use"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "of military force. But history shows us"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "those limits have been tested again and"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "again. US Army soldiers were deployed to"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "crush the great railroad strike of 1877"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "where they fired on riers in several"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "states, killing more than 100 civilians."}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "Later in 1957, President Eisenhower, the"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "one who ran that last major deportation"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "operation, invoked the Insurrection Act"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "to enforce desegregation laws,"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "integrating black and white schools. In"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "1962, Kennedy sent the National Guard to"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "quell riots when racist mobs defied"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "federal authority to allow the first"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "black student to attend the University"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "of Mississippi. Two were killed and"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "hundreds injured before order was"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "restored. In 1970, Ohio Army National"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "Guard soldiers opened fire and killed"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "four unarmed students during Vietnam War"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "protests. But the last time the"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "Insurrection Act was invoked was in 1992"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "by President Bush Senior to help end the"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "Los Angeles riots. Nearly 30 years later"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "in 2020, we saw 40,000 National Guard"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "activated on the streets in response to"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "riots after George Floyd's murder. Since"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "1970 though, no civilians have been"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "killed by US troops on US soil. As for"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "the soldiers themselves carrying out"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "these missions like private first class"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "reyes, they're bound by multiple laws"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "and regulations that date back to 1939,"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "forbidding them from engaging in"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "partisan politics or criticizing"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "Congress or the president in public. The"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "US military's culture is built on this"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "idea of remaining apolitical, that"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "service members follow lawful orders"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "from civilian leaders regardless of who"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "holds office. It's a principle meant to"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "preserve public trust and keep the armed"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "forces separate from partisan power. In"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "theory, that a-political line is clear,"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "but in practice, it can get messy. The"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "National Guard is unique in that it"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "answers to two different governments at"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "once, the federal government and the"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "state governments. In America, each of"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "the state governors control the National"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "Guard. The way it works is if a National"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "Guard unit is called up by its state"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "governor, it can operate what's called"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "hybrid status. This is known as title"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "32. Under this status of title 32,"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "guardsmen are legally not restricted by"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "the posi commitatus act, which means"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "they're allowed to support police with"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "crowd control, arrest individuals,"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "search vehicles, and enforce curfews."}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "But in reality, the way it works in"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "practice, and I've seen it firsthand"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "before, individual guard commanders"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "almost always explicitly tell lower"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "enlisted soldiers in the past that"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "they're not authorized to enforce the"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "law anyway. They do this in order to"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "avoid the legal issue of the posi"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "kamitatus act altogether even though"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "they are legally allowed. However, when"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "the national guard is federalized"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "directly by the president, it operates"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "under their control or federal authority"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "called title 10. That single distinction"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "means troops follow the same law as the"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "active duty army, which means they"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "cannot make arrests or enforce civilian"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "law. Except that's not the full story"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "because there's an exception to that"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "rule. Take a look at DoD directive"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "number 3025.18."}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "This is being interpreted today to"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "justify soldiers who are on Title 10"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "federalized orders to still perform law"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "enforcement duties. Section 4K"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "subsection 2 states federal military"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "forces can act when local, state, or"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "federal authorities are unable or"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "unwilling to provide adequate protection"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "for federal property or federal"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "governmental functions. This is being"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "interpreted by the federal government to"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "mean anywhere that federal agents go,"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "military soldiers can protect them. So"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "the government is arguing that means"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "federal ICE agents when they go on"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "raids, soldiers can go and protect them"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "on that. And while lawyers argued about"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "constitutional authority and whether or"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "not the Illinois deployment would be"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "reauthorized, Adam Reyes slept for the"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "night on the floor of a gym in a Chicago"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "armory. He texted his girlfriend and"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "tried to get some reading done for"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "school. A platoon of the Texas Army"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "National Guard were staying in the same"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "armory with them. And one of the guys"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "from the Texas unit came over and joked,"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "\"So what happens if your governor orders"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "you to stop us from being here? We going"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "to have to square off in the parking"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "lot?\" The two laugh together across the"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "country. Several governors are"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "threatening to withdraw from the"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "National Governor's Association, which"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "was originally created to help"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "coordinate between the state governments"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "and the federal government. More and"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "more state governments are now acting"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "like opposing camps, and National Guard"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "troops from Republican and Democrat"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "states are being given conflicting"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "orders. For soldiers on the ground, it"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "raises a question. What happens if one"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "state's governor orders their National"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "Guard troops to do something in"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "opposition to another state's National"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "Guard? Adam is, of course, a"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "representation of the thousands of"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "National Guard soldiers across the"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "country. He's a representation of the"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "responsibility that these men and women"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "have. Many American soldiers over the"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "past 250 years have stood in the same"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "difficult position. They've had to make"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "challenging split-second decisions and"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "do their best to maintain their"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "professionalism. The National Guard"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "soldiers stand in the middle of court"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "battles, presidential orders, civilians,"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "and federal agents. But at the end of"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "the day, all they really want is what's"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "best for their communities that they"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "grew up in and call home. I often cover"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "wars happening halfway around the world."}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "We've done rundowns on the Israeli Hamas"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "war, Ukraine, Russia, Venezuela. It"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "would have felt wrong for me to ignore"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "one of the biggest issues in national"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "security right now. And I do believe"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "that YouTube is a place where we can all"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "come together and have discussions"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "because I think this is part of some of"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "the biggest issues facing America right"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "now. And it's important for this"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "community to be a part of that"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "discussion. If you want to support what"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "we do here on this channel, just hit the"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "like button. That's all you got to do."}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "Hit the like button. If you want to"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "learn more, you can check out these"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "recent videos that we've done on"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "national security. I'm your average"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "infantryman, Chris Cappy. See you guys"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "again soon."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Within the last year, logistics has"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "become the defining problem for the war"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "in Ukraine for both armies. Ukraine"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "estimates that half of its battlefield"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "casualties now occur in the so-called"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "last mile of tactical resupply. The"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "situation for Russian forces is likely"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "similar. So today, we're going to trace"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "the journey of a single shipment of"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "artillery ammunition for both armies"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "from their factory floor to the barrel"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "of a cannon on the front and learn"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "exactly how and where that journey is"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "contested. Every month, Russia has to"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "supply their forces with an estimated"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "120,000 artillery shells. Their journey"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "starts at the spedle plant in Nini"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "Novograd Blast, a 1300 km or 2 to"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "three-day journey to the front in"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "Pogrosk. Ukrainian forces contest this"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "artillery shipment immediately with long"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "range drone strikes against the"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "ammunition plant beginning in 2025. This"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "is why Moscow has moved ammunition"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "production further inland into Siberia"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "at the Bisque plant, which is out of"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "range of most of Ukraine's current"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "drones. The added distance adds an extra"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "4 days of travel time. From central"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "Russia, the train runs through a major"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "hub of Rosta Vandon towards occupied"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "Danbos. These junctions matter because"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "it's another location where logistics"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "can be further contested. In August"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "2025, Kee's HUR reported an increase in"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "drone strikes on these rail hubs. The"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "attacks don't stop the network, but they"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "force reroutes and hour-long pauses."}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "This route feeds larger depots around"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "Dunett City, and these depots are"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "frequently targets for Ukrainian highar"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "storm shadows and one-way drone strikes."}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "To mitigate this, Russia has opened new"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "rail routes in 2025 to create"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "redundancy. Russia revived and extended"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "occupied territory rail corridors to"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "shorten the hall. The Rostov Maropole"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "line cuts logistics routes by 300 km and"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "reduces dependence on the Kirch Bridge,"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "which is itself frequently targeted."}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "Russia moves 90% of its heavy supplies"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "by rail. Every time Ukraine hits a rail"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "junction, the effect cascades for"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "hundreds of trains behind it. Moscow has"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "established makeshift air defense"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "hangouts outside major cities like"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "Belgarod where this is a frequent site"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "now. This is Russia's only seapport in"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "Astraan Oblast. It's the location where"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "Shahedtype drone components and"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "ammunition arrives from Iran. Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "commanders have now contested this line"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "of logistics frequently targeting this"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "port. Yet trains can only carry supplies"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "so far from depots in occupied Dunbos."}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "Their loads have to move forward by"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "road. And that's where the system"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "becomes even more fragile. First, before"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "we get into that, a message from ODU,"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "who sponsored the animations in this"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "video. When I first started this company"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "6 months ago, the one thing I"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "underestimated the most was how"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "difficult doing payroll invoices and"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "getting e signatures would be. Today's"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "sponsor, ODU, fixed all of that because"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "ODO is a business management software"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "with a full suite of integrated apps."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "So, for me, I needed the project"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "management tool to keep track of the"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "different episodes that we have in"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "various stages of production at any"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "given time. I'm usually coordinating"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "between four people on each episode, so"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "that helps a lot with communication. I"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "added the accounting app, so invoices"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "and receipts don't get forgotten about."}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "And as the channel's grown to 600,000"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "subscribers now, I was able to take all"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "the different aspects of the company"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "that were scattered across different"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "tools and have ODU bring everything into"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "one place, saving me hours every week."}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "If you need to track sales calls or"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "inventory, there are features for that."}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "If you're running a business, big or"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "small, use my link in the description to"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "try ODU for free for 15 days. No credit"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "card required, and any single app is"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "free forever. Just click my link in the"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "description or the pin comment below to"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "see how much easier ODU can make your"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "life. In 2024, Russian supply lines"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "relied on a mix of standard military"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "trucks like the Gaz and Kamas along with"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "civilian cargo vehicles. Those trucks"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "could carry several tons of fuel or"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "ammo, but they had limited off-road"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "capability. They were confined to"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "established roads. That predictability"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "made them easier targets. Independent"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "analysts like Orex documented Russian"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "forces losing around 90 resupply trucks"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "every month to Ukrainian FPV drone"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "strikes in 2024. Faced with these"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "losses, Russia adapted. Rather than"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "sending large convoys that could be"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "destroyed in a single strike, units"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "increasingly turned to smaller vehicles,"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "ATVs, and even motorcycles for the final"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "stretch of delivery. This is what"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "logisticians call the last mile or"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "tactical resupply. To adapt, supplies"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "are no longer pushed forward in large"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "shipments. Instead, they're broken down"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "into smaller batches and delivered"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "through multiple routes, reducing the"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "risk. It's less efficient, but in a"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "battlefield dominated by drones,"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "efficiency has taken a backseat to"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "survivability. The trade-off is clear."}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "Far less capacity, but greater"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "survivability. As a result, Russian"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "resupply near the front now looks"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "fragmented, moving in small packets,"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "mostly at night. Analysts estimate that"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "supply runs that once average four"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "deliveries per day to the front now are"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "down to one or two. By 2024, Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "armed forces had also adapted to this"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "new approach. In for instance, they're"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "using what's called mobile depots. That"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "sounds like some kind of giant command"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "center, but in reality, it's a fleet of"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "over a 100,000 of the classic Toyota"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "Hilux. These on the move supply depot"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "ensure that supply of ammo and food"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "reaches isolated units. This last stage"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "has become the single most dangerous"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "part of the war by 2025. Military"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "generals want their strategy that they"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "can create to dictate how to use their"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "logistics. But what we're observing in"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "2025 appears to be the opposite. Over"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "the last year, Russia has deployed"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "logistics itself as a weapon. The"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "concept is using rolling pressure by"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "shifting limited assault power across"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "different parts of the front. Here's how"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "it's done. Russia doesn't have unlimited"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "high quality elite infantry storm units."}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "So it cycles its best assault groupings,"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "which are typically their VDV airborne"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "naval infantry and select motor rifle"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "brigades between hot sectors. The aim is"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "to force Ukraine to chase fires to force"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "the opponent to move shells, EW kits,"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "air defense sections, and reserves from"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "one axis to the next continually. a"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "process that's slower and riskier in a"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "drone saturated war. ISW and Reuters"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "reporting cross summer involve 2025"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "described this sequential push phase."}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "You may recall the push, then troops"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "were rotated by Russia to the line in"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "Sunumi and Kursk. Then Russian troops"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "and equipment were rotated again to"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "Poke. Most recently in Ukraine saw the"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "same elite striker quick reaction forces"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "that fought in Kursk were redeployed to"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "Pogrosk. Russians well-trained troops"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "rotate in the same way. This is why"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "having the momentum and being able to"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "choose the time and place of battles is"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "so important because it's less logistic"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "strain when you're prepared. There are"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "different names for this military"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "strategy. You could call it an active"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "defense. Germany calls it their shifting"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "schwarpunk economy of force or"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "operational level force cycling. They"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "all have similar principles which is"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "dynamically changing the focal point or"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "the main weight of effort of a strategy"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "or operation rather than maintaining a"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "fixed objective. You can see the pattern"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "around Pogrosk. In August 2025, a small"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "Russian detachment infiltrated deep"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "enough to sever one of the town's two"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "remaining supply corridors from"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "Cratorsk. Ukraine rushed quick reaction"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "reserves to plug the gap. Each time"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "quick reaction forces are rotated, it"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "means supplies have to move, which means"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "risking moving in the open. Troops now"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "rotate to the front not for a week, but"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "for over a month at a time, and they"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "only change during periods of inclement"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "weather or at night and under heavy"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "suppressing fire barges. Assault"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "elements pull off of spent axis for a"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "few weeks to absorb replacements by"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "Russia. R USI's field notes describe"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "Russia's pattern. When defenses are"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "disrupted, small assault groups repeat"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "short, highcost pushes, then units step"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "back to reconstitute. A great way to"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "understand this is the difference"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "between what logisticians call push"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "versus pull systems. Western armies"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "often run on what's called pull"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "logistics. Units at the front signal"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "what they need and supplies flow forward"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "in response, creating a flexible"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "feedback loop. It's like Amazon Prime"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "for artillery shells. Your demand drives"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "the system. The cons are that it"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "requires excellent communication and"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "more complex planning and tracking."}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "Russian forces originally, by contrast,"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "inherited a Soviet style push logistics"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "system. Supplies are moved forward on"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "predetermined schedules that were"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "dictated from the top with little room"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "for adjustment. The pros are that it's"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "predictable, simple planning, commanders"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "know when and what resupply is coming"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "from. There's less reliance on frontline"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "units to communicate or forecast"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "accurately. But the cons are that"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "there's little room or flexibility to"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "adapt. This is why they're now trying to"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "move away from that to adapt to a drone"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "saturated battlefield. And the issue"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "goes deeper. Russia's logistics corps"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "has far fewer trucks per unit than NATO"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "equivalents and a much higher"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "toothtotail ratio. About six combat"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "soldiers for every one support soldier"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "compared to the roughly 1 in 10 in the"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "US Army. And the way Russia's tried to"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "rebalance this is by turning foot"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "soldiers into logisticians themselves"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "with their ATV units. Rotating units"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "through the same trenches has an"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "unintended side effect as well. The"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "soldiers who dig fighting positions with"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "their own hands are rarely the ones who"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "get to benefit from them. When a unit is"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "forced to rotate, another rotates in and"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "often has to start the same work all"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "over again. Both armies have to deal"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "with this dilemma. The constant churn"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "discourages the kind of deep"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "fortifications that could make defensive"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "lines more resilient. The broader"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "pattern tracks with how the war itself"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "has evolved. Analysts described the"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "first year of the war as relatively"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "mobile, small, welle equipped forces"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "trading ground quickly. The second year"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "saw both sides consolidating their"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "positions and mounting deliberate"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "attempts to breach the line of contact."}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "By the third year, the conflict has"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "become highly attritional with both"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "Russia and Ukraine focused less on"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "breakthroughs and more about simply"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "inflicting maximum damage on one"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "another. Russia's trying to use its"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "manpower advantage to grind down"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "Ukraine's ability to rotate troops and"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "sustain logistics. It appears in early"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "2025, Ukrainian troops began reporting a"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "new Russian approach that analysts now"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "call the triple chokeold, which sounds"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "like a wrestling move, so I prefer the"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "other name for it, the offensive"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "triangle. And it works in three steps."}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "First, persistent small unit"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "infiltrations, fix defenders along the"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "line of contact, and force them to burn"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "through ammunition. Second, drones,"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "artillery, and scattered mines target"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "the near rear roads. casualty evacuation"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "routes and ammo points, making movement"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "itself dangerous. Third, once positions"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "are identified and pinned, Russian glide"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "bombs hammer the dug in defensives that"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "would otherwise survive conventional"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "fires. The net effect isn't dramatic"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "arrows on a map. It's a steady"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "strangling of maneuver and resupply at"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "the last mile. This creates a difficult"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "dilemma. Should Ukraine dig in deeper to"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "resist drones and artillery, or should"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "they stay mobile to avoid targeted by"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "glide bombs? Analysts at R USI note that"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "either choice carry significant risks."}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "Tactically, infiltrations and"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "accumulations matter. Small Russian"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "groups move by multiple approaches to"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "preset rally points beyond Ukraine's"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "what's called flot or forward line of"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "troops. Then they accrete into assault"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "packets. Russia's endgame with this"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "approach may be twofold. On one hand, it"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "could be an attempt to secure"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "incremental territorial gains. On the"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "other, it could simply be an attempt to"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "exhaust Ukrainian manpower and logistics"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "until the system breaks. It appears"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "Russia is attempting to pave the way for"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "a larger operational collapse and"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "recapture of wider areas. At the same"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "time, Ukraine is adopting new tools to"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "stay in the fight. The shipment of"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "artillery shells for Ukraine begins in a"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "journey at the Scranton Army Ammunition"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "Plant in Pennsylvania. Here, steel"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "casings are machined, filled, and once"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "completed, the shells are palatized into"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "40ft shipping containers. From Newark, a"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "transatlantic crossing of nearly 4,000 m"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "takes about 12 days by containership."}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "The cargo is offloaded, inspected, and"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "transferred to Polish State Railways."}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "The supply line starts to be contested"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "here for the first time by Russia's"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "hackers. They target these pieces of"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "critical infrastructure in Europe with"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "destructive malware that's used to delay"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "the shipments. Access to these ports"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "digital networks is used by Russian"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "operatives to monitor shipments of"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "weapons and aid. From Poland's port, the"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "artillery shells container travel"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "another 400 m south to Zeshav logistics"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "hub just 60 mi from the Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "border. The US Army calls this location"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "the logistics enabling node Poland or"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "LEMP for short. It handles receipt,"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "warehousing, distribution, and final"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "prep of the major equipment before"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "release to the armed forces of Ukraine,"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "including things like artillery and M2"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "Bradley shipments. It also functions as"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "a retrograde MRO hub or maintenance"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "repair overhaul. LENP gives the added"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "security of being located within allied"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "territory while pushing sustainment"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "close to the edge of battle. The US"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "Army's Defense Logistics Agency noted"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "the Cororova database is how Ukraine"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "communicates its request for ammunition"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "to the entire Allied network in one"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "transparent location that everyone can"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "view. So if the artillery battery in"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "Poke Rok on the front line is authorized"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "the shipment of 5,000 artillery shells,"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "2,000 of that can come from this"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "shipment of the United States and 3,000"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "can come from various European countries"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "contributions. And the Kova database"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "coordinates this and puts it together."}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "NATO has ringed this hub here in Poland"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "with Patriot and Nayam's air defense"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "systems and F-35s because roughly 80% of"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "aid to Ukraine passes through here. With"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "recent Russian fighter jets and drone"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "incursions violating NATO airspace,"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "Russia is starting to probe at and"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "contest this part of the supply chain"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "for the first time in 2025. From Zeshav,"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "trucks carry the artillery shell pallets"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "east on the A4 motorway. Once inside,"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "the state railway takes over. This"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "lifeline to the outside world has for"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "the first time come under attack"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "starting in 2025. This is the same rail"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "line that world leaders and most"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "civilian passengers as well as military"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "equipment has taken into Kev. As a"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "target, it was a logistics route that"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "seemed to be off limits until this year."}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "The cargo is then pushed to a regional"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "depot near Kev and then broken down into"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "smaller convoys, dispersing the load so"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "that no single strike can wipe out an"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "entire shipment. Here, Russian physical"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "attacks on an energy infrastructure"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "slows shipments down. Russian attacks"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "last year destroyed eight thermal"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "plants, reducing power capacity by 9"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "gawatt, which is half of Ukraine's total"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "power capacity. And power generation has"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "caused rolling blackouts. Reduced power"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "capacity means that cities have up to 12"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "hours a day of power cuts, which makes"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "refueling and charging drone batteries"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "more difficult and timeconuming. The"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "route from Keev is 300 more miles along"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "the E40 highway to the city of Nepro."}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "Finally, the last leg follows the M40"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "highway another 120 mi to reach the town"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "of Poke at the front. By this point, the"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "shells have traveled nearly 5,000 miles"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "from the factory floor in Pennsylvania"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "to within striking distance of the"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "Eastern Front. The economics are stark."}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "A single FPV drone costing only a few"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "hundred can disable a truck carrying"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "tens of thousands of dollars in"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "ammunition. That imbalance is what makes"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "this stage of delivery not just"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "dangerous, but decisive. On top of that,"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "Russian units have begun scattering"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "remote landmines along approach roads,"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "damaging tires and forcing convoys to"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "slow, which increases their exposure"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "time. Open- source evidence shows just"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "how lethal this final stretch has become"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "in 2025. The Ukrainian Ministry of"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "Defense has documented hundreds of drone"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "ambushes against logistics convoys and"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "geollocated footage regularly confirms"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "FPV strikes on trucks along critical"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "routes like the H20 and M330 highways"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "near the Dumbos. Analysts at the Royal"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "United Services Institute estimate that"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "by mid 2025, Russian production had"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "reached tens of thousands of FPV drones"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "per month, enough to maintain near"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "continuous coverage over the most"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "important supply arteries. Both sides in"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "2025 have improvised defenses to protect"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "transport. One of the most striking"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "examples visible in these field videos"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "is the use of fishing line or thin wire"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "strung between poles to form makeshift"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "corridors or tunnels for supply trucks"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "designed to snag or deflect incoming"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "drones. But these barriers rarely last"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "long. Supply posts are themselves"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "frequent targets and Osenet footage"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "shows they're often destroyed within"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "hours, forcing units to rebuild them"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "every night just to maintain passage."}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "Marco and Julia work for the Alhair"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "logistics company that runs supplies"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "through Ukraine. They said in an"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "interview, \"Long convoys of trucks are"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "currently prohibited as they are"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "potential targets. Deliveries have to be"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "smaller.\" Now, the same applies to rail"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "transport. We don't have many rail cars"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "available at the moment and the state"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "company can only provide a limited"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "number. Once the supplies pass as far"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "east as Kev along the highways, each"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "kilometer east becomes far more deadly"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "and the roads become more pocked with"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "craters and explosives. Furthermore, the"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "supply trucks are stopped at frequent"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "checkpoints that require rotating"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "passwords every few kilometers designed"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "to stop Russian saboturs, which has the"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "downside of also slowing supplies down."}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "The logistics agency explains that for"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "oversized cargo or machinery, provided"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "either restrictions allow it, they"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "recommend keeping the cargo assembled as"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "much as possible to maintain its"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "dimensions. This is crucial because"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "Ukraine is currently facing a"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "significant shortage of welders to put"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "things back together. This is a"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "double-edged sword, so to speak. Ukraine"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "and Russia have now extensively used"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "drones for logistics themselves to"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "deliver supplies to isolated cutoff"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "soldiers. But these drones are contested"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "by electronic warfare and have limits of"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "payloads between 100 to 200 lb or"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "roughly two artillery shells. But using"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "drones to deliver supplies has even more"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "limitations for both sides. As Russian"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "military blogger wrote online, quote,"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "\"Logistics are a disaster. They're"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "trying to deliver supplies with drones,"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "but this isn't an open field. The forest"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "here is dense. Delivering anything there"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "is nearly impossible. Tree canopies,"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "branches interfere. Enemy drones hover"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "above the forest for days on end,"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "filming, correcting fire, waiting for"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "any mistake to immediately strike. End"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "quote. Medical evacuation has been"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "disrupted in the same way. What once"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "took 20 minutes to get a casualty"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "evacuated now takes many days since most"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "movements happen at night to avoid"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "drones. In many cases, evacuations are"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "carried out on foot or in small armored"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "robotic vehicles rather than in"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "dedicated ambulances. The extra time has"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "a direct effect on survival rates,"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "especially for serious injuries where"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "minutes can make the difference. The"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "army's material command has deployed its"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "predictive analytic suite or APAs to"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "help Ukrainian logisticians monitor the"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "health of complex equipment like the"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "more than 300 Bradley infantry fighting"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "vehicles that have been delivered. In"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "practice, it gives commander a live"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "dashboard of the fleet's condition and"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "helps anticipate failures before they"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "happen. American planners even talk now"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "about logistics networks as kill chains,"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "a recognition that supply systems"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "themselves have become central to combat"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "power. All of this underscores a larger"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "point. In this war of attrition, where"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "territorial gains are limited and"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "costly, disrupting supply lines has"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "become just as important as the tactical"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "movements on the ground. The result is"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "that as the third year has moved firmly"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "into a war of attrition, logistics has"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "become even more contested than the"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "battlefield itself. The challenge is"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "safely getting weapons and ammo"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "distributed to the thousands of fighting"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "positions, bunkers, and trench lines"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "scattered across the over 1,250"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "km or 800 m long front line. A steady"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "flow of shells, fuel, and spare parts is"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "now what keeps the army surviving. And"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "that means the outcome isn't decided"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "only on the front, but also hundreds or"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "even thousands of miles away at rail"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "junctions, ports, and fuel depots. The"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "side that can keep their corridors open"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "despite drones, missiles, and cyber"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "attacks is the side that will be able to"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "continue fighting tomorrow. If you"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "enjoyed this video and you would like to"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "learn more about these topics, you can"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "watch this video here or this one. I'm"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "your average infantcherman, Chris Cappy."}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "Ending transmission."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "This is China's next generation main"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "battle tank, the Type 100 that was first"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "unveiled during their massive World War"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "II Victory Day parade. With its smaller"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "105 mil cannon, radar sensors all over"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "the turret, and unmanned companion"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "support vehicles, in many ways, it's a"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "radical departure from both Western and"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "Russian tank designs. But in some other"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "ways, it reveals a convergence towards"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "similar capabilities that all of these"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "so-called fourth generation tanks are"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "showcasing. namely that each tanker now"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "gets an advanced comfort pillow. We'll"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "see how the Type 100 actually represents"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "a nearly seven decadesl long journey of"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "evolving Chinese tank philosophy and how"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "main battle tanks have come to represent"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "a nation's prestige. As Sunsu once said,"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "just as water retains no constant shape,"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "so in warfare there are no constant"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "conditions. He also said anyone who"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "quotes SunSu is a total hack. But I"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "think the Type 100 really embodies that"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "philosophy of change at its heart. Can"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "the Type 100 survive a battlefield like"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "Ukraine that's lousy with enemy drones"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "today? How has Chinese tank development"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "through the ages landed on these"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "specific capabilities? Let's find out. I"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "just found out I was being charged $15"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "every month for an old workout app that"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "I haven't used in over 2 years. I felt"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "violated, but that's why I reached out"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "to today's sponsor, Rocket Money,"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "because they're a personal finance app"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "that helps you cancel subscriptions."}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "That got me digging even deeper and I"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "went down a whole rabbit hole where I"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "found out I was being charged hundreds"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "of dollars every month for services I"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "don't want or don't use anymore. Rocket"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "Money has helped customers save over"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "$500 million in cancelled subscriptions."}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "And once I connected my bank account,"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "Rocket Money identified all of my"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "subscriptions in a single list. From"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "there, I simply selected the ones I"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "didn't want anymore, and Rocket Money"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "helped me cancel them with just a few"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "taps. Rocket Money even helped me"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "negotiate my bills, like my internet"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "service. But it's more than that."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "They're an all-in-one personal finance"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "app. They help you manage your money"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "better in general. It starts with the"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "subscriptions, but then you see how"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "clearly shows you where you're wasting"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "all kinds of money each month. So, if"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "you guys want to take control of your"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "finances, go to rocketmoney.com/cappy"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "army. They're offering you a free trial"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "today. Just click my link in the"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "description or the pin comment below."}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "Let us conduct our annual subscription"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "purge together. This is China's tank"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "factory 617, also known as number one"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "machinery plan or boto factory. It was"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "created in 1954 and since then it's the"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "one and only main battle tank factory in"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "all of China. It seems like a random"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "remote location, but it's only 120 km"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "away from the Bayonobo rare earth iron"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "ore fields. This is where they mine for"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "steel to cast the holes of the Type 100"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "tank. The factory is Costco levels of"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "gigantic with over 20,000 employees and"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "it houses 5,000 R&D team members and it"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "covers 20 square km. But it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "always this huge. And this declassified"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "American intelligence document shows"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "that they've been closely monitoring the"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "site since at least 1966 when spy planes"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "flew over and tracked every time they"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "expanded or upgraded it. This document"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "from 1983 shows a detailed layout of"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "where the PLA brings their tanks right"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "next door to test the weaponry. The US"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "even knew the lead tank designer's"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "favorite color. It was green. Having all"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "tank production under one roof isn't"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "that unusual. It's very similar to the"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "Lima tank factory in Ohio, America."}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "that's been pumping out tanks since"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "1941. China's use of tanks has"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "historically been limited compared to"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "other major powers. When World War II"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "first kicked off, the rough terrain and"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "limited fuel meant Japan only deployed"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "light tanks in small numbers. But by"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "1949, the CCP did manage to capture over"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "600 foreign tanks in their Civil War,"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "most of them old American and Soviet"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "armor. One military expert at the time"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "even noted that the PLA's 1949 parade"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "was quote the most extensive public"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "display of US military hardware in over"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "a decade. Acquiring these first tanks"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "started nearly a centurylong struggle"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "for China between copying other nations"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "tank designs and attempting to create"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "something that was uniquely Chinese. The"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "Type 100 is, I think, the first tank"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "where they may have actually broken that"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "cycle. During the Korean War in the"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "1950s, China used basically no main"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "battle tanks. Again, the reason for this"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "was because China had no real heavy"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "industry yet. So, Mao Dong instituted"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "the Chinese Communist Party's first"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "5-year plan in 1953 to create steel"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "mills and factories. The Soviet Union"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "sent billions of dollars in today's"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "money in loans and 10,000 foreign"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "advisers to help with this"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "reorganization. In 1955, Moscow says,"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "\"Hey, comrade, we're both communists, so"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "uh, hey, I'm going to give you this"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "blueprint for the T-54A main battle"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "tank.\" China starts pumping out"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "thousands of Soviet clone T-59s. The"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "Soviet Union says, \"Hey, you wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "ever use those tanks against us, would"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "you, comrade?\" And China says, \"No, of"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "course not.\" Then they do. The T-59s"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "were then turned around and used against"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "the Soviet Union in 1969 when Beijing"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "engages in its one and only meaningful"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "tank-on tank combat in history. The"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "fight takes place on this frozen sliver"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "of land, the Osiri River. The Soviets"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "send four of their newest secret T62"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "main battle tanks, and they engage with"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "the older Chinese T-59 technology. But"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "one of the Soviet T62 tanks runs over a"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "landmine as it crosses the frozen river"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "and it's disabled. The two sides fight"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "over the husk of the dead tank for"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "months, but finally the Chinese Navy"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "successfully recovers it. Finders"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "keepers, losers, weepers. The PLA brings"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "it back to Beijing and they study the"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "tank's majestic secrets. It turns out"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "it's a gold mine of information. The PLA"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "reverse engineer it to develop their"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "next model, the type 69 with its smooth"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "boore gun, nightfighting infrared sights"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "and its tricked out turret"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "stabilization. The American Central"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "Intelligence Agency was closely"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "monitoring all this and they sent back"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "this declassified intelligence report"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "about the very day that their spies"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "observed the T69 being deployed and they"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "knew exactly what its capabilities were."}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "This one battle revealed to the Chinese"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "military planners why main battle tanks"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "were necessary. Tank production in China"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "has always been driven by geography."}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "First, the PLA needs armor to secure"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "their borders against Russia in the"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "north. And second, they need armor in"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "the west to cover the plateaus there."}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "These are theoretically the only"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "realistic avenues of approach for any"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "kind of large mechanized threat to"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "attack them. There's also the ability to"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "police your own people with these tanks."}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "But more importantly, there's the"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "prestige aspect. It's the intangible."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "It's the aspect of tank production"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "across all countries you can't really"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "quantify with numbers or stats because"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "modern armored tanks are undeniably this"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "symbol of a nation's power. It showcases"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "a society's ability to work together, to"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "cooperate across different expertise to"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "produce something that is"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "mind-bogglingly absurdly expensive,"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "millions of dollars each unit. Its"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "ability represents the pinnacle of many"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "different fields from chemicals to"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "material science. And it creates"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "something that is both horrifyingly"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "deadly and captivating at the same time."}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "The PLA goes ham on pumping out"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "thousands of T-59s and T69 tanks and"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "exporting them around the world to"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "different countries. A western military"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "officer went to Thailand and inspected"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "the Chinese tanks and he found that they"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "were inaccurate. The suspension system"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "was poor and the engines often broke"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "down, emitting clouds of black smoke"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "even when they just started up. In the"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "1980s, China and Western nations are on"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "great terms. Their relationship is just"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "warm and fuzzy. So, they exchange"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "technology. So, China receives fancy"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "British fired control computers from"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "Maronei and reliable German diesel"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "engines. Believe it or not, the United"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "States and China even worked together on"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "the Jaguar main battle tank, which was"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "like a cross between the M1 Abrams and a"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "T-59 Soviet inspiration. It was a"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "communist/c capitalist death machine."}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "The 1989 Tanaman Square incident caused"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "a split with the West and China, and"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "China was once again back to the drawing"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "board when it came to their tank"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "technology. Beijing had been through"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "this kind of breakup before with the"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "Soviet Union. China had long been"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "skeptical of foreign military"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "technology. TheQin dynasty officials"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "from back in the day even have a famous"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "quote saying, quote, \"Chinese learning"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "for substance, Western learning for"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "use.\" End quote. In the 1990s, we see"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "tank factory 617 is absorbed into the"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "giant state-owned defense conglomerate,"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "China North Industries Group"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "Corporation, also known as Nurinko."}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "Nurinko is what would happen if"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "Lockheed, Martin, Rathon, General"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "Dynamics, Northrup, Grumman, and Boeing"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "in America all had a big war baby"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "together. Nurinko began standardizing"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "designs and they hit their first great"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "leap forward, so to speak, in the T96"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "and heavier T99 tanks. This bad boy has"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "composite armor, digital fire control"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "systems, and it can actually shoot while"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "on the move. But it's still heavily"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "influenced by Russia's T72, and just"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "their whole T- series of tanks. Which"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "brings us to today with this next"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "generation type 100 or ZTZ 100. And its"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "development story is really unusual"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "compared to past models. It reportedly"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "started more than a decade ago as early"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "as 2012 under the direction of what's"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "called the Northern Vehicle Research"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "Institute or number 201."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "This is their main ground combat"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "research and development center. It's"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "kind of like China's Skunk Works or"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "DARPA, but for vehicles, but it's run"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "very, very differently because instead"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "of relying on private contractors,"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "number 2011 controls the entire design"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "pipeline from initial concept sketches"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "to prototypes before Nuringo finally"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "produces it. It's a leftover form of"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "that Chinese central planning that"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "hasn't left since the first 5-year plan."}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "What's really unusual, though, I think,"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "is how mysterious the T100 whole project"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "is. It was only mentioned briefly in a"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "2016 show on China's state TV. Then"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "nearly 10 years of radio silence before"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "this parade, and only a few blurry"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "photos of it existed, like Bigfoot or"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "the Loch Ness Monster before that that"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "circulated online under the designation"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "ZTZ201"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "on obscure Chinese defense forums. So,"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "you might have easily missed it. Tank"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "Factory 617, the same one that produced"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "those same original T-59s. remember"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "them? They were then also chosen to"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "produce this new next generation T100."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "The first thing that stood out is it's"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "noticeably smaller at 40 tons, putting"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "it in what's called the medium tank"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "category. It appears to be 7 m long and"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "2 m high, making its hole and turret"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "taller than previous main battle tanks."}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "The side skirts have been reshaped for"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "increased fragmentation deflection. Its"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "tactics and capabilities are built"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "around this key aspect of lower weight"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "though. Thus, we should seize the"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "opportunity to make a substantial study"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "of all kinds of foreign machines and"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "weapons in order to learn their secret"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "completely. In times of disturbances, it"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "can be used to oppose aggression. And in"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "times of peace, they can show our"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "prestige. One of the things making it"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "lighter is its unmanned turret and"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "smaller 105 mil cannon. This is a major"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "departure from larger 125 or 120 mm"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "cannons that the Russians and American"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "tanks have. Why the smaller size?"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "Chinese media claims that recent"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "advances in tank ammunition propellant,"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "they're kind of like it's gunpowder,"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "mean that it doesn't lose any of that"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "firepower compared to the bigger"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "cannons. They state that new"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "armor-piercing rounds still are able to"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "achieve a reported muzzle velocity of"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "1,700 m/s. The PLA claims its"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "effectiveness is on par with what they"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "call their phase 3 larger cannon ammo."}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "Phase 3 is estimated to be able to punch"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "through 650 mm of rolled homogeneous"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "steel at 2 km. Punching through armor"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "may not even be its main job anymore,"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "though, because data from the war in"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "Ukraine has suggested that tank-on tank"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "combat is exceedingly rare. And armor is"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "typically used to dislodge infantry from"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "cities and to destroy fortifications"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "during advances. And that's part of the"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "reason why this switch to smaller,"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "lighter tanks, because bigger, slower,"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "louder, giant platforms have shown to be"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "vulnerable in the war in Ukraine. It"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "looks like it has no blowout panels for"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "the ammo, but the crew is actually"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "inside a special compartment separate"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "from the auto loader and the ammunition"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "and the explosives. And this compartment"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "is more heavily armored. It's"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "interesting to note the crew's been"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "reduced from four in Russian tanks down"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "to either two or three members here,"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "which can be an advantage or a"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "disadvantage because that means more"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "workload, more jobs on just two team"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "members who are taking care of an entire"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "tank. The lighter weight has a tradeoff,"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "of course, because the Type 100 is more"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "vulnerable with less armor. It'll be"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "exposed when taking autoc cannon fire on"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "its flanks. Chinese sources state that"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "the overall protection is not high,"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "except at the whole front. That's one"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "reason Chinese military observers have"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "dubbed it the double ridiculous online,"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "meaning ridiculously light and"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "ridiculously unarmored. One of the"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "biggest changes is the new diesel"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "electric hybrid power system that"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "generates 1500 horsepower. Electric"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "motors have the advantage of allowing"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "the tank reverse quicker which helps"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "tanks fire and then retreat back into"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "defensive protection. More importantly"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "though, it's that extra juice that it"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "generates. Exact numbers are classified"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "of course, but there are estimates that"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "these type of hybrid systems generate"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "maybe 50% higher electrical capacity,"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "which as we'll see is very important in"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "a minute. Something really unusual with"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "this release is we're hearing from"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "actual PLA soldiers. So Wang Kun, who is"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "a crew member of a T100, spoke to the"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "media saying that this hybrid engine,"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "they're capable of approaching the enemy"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "in silence in specific environments. The"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "way to understand the Type 100 tactics"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "is by looking at its mysterious new"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "support vehicle, which appears to be"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "kind of a whole new category of tanks"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "that aren't tanks. It's like if your"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "tank had an emotional support animal"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "armed with an autoc cannon. The support"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "vehicle carries three soldiers only, so"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "less than a squad, but they can dismount"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "and they're act as an anti-tank RPG"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "team. The support vehicle can be"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "reconfigured and transformed into a"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "mobile loitering missile launcher. It's"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "meant to be unmanned and remote"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "controlled possibly with an autoc cannon"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "on top. And this is what fourth"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "generation tank warfare is supposedly"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "all about. It's where the principles of"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "all future tanks in the west and in"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "China seem to converge on these very"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "specific set of principles. The"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "similarities, the themes that they share"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "across the board between US and Chinese"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "tanks are they're smaller now active"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "protection systems and network warfare."}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "In the past, tank generations were"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "basically referred to based on how big"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "the cannon was and how thick its armor"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "was. But that's no longer the case."}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "That's not the trend that we're seeing"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "anymore. The support vehicle's job in"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "theory is to scout ahead, tag targets,"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "put a little Dorito red mark over them,"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "and feed it to the infantry's platoon"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "network, so you have a big battlefield"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "picture of what's going on. It's a"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "spotter that works to route the whole"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "team's kill chain. It launches"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "surveillance drones right off the back"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "of the vehicle to push surveillance 10"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "km past where they are. It also works as"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "a counter UAV defense umbrella. It"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "creates a protection bubble against"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "anti-tank threats, which explain its"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "high 90deree elevation traversal for its"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "cannon. Specs reported by China state"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "media say that it has AI assisted target"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "recognition that tags threats that are"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "spotted by drones automatically, which"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "means the crew gets a ping on their"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "screen telling them where a hostile tank"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "is hiding without seeing it themselves."}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "So, crew members showcase their new"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "situational awareness augmented reality"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "goggles to look through the metal"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "interior. It's a feature seen in many"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "modern armored vehicles for the past few"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "years. And similar to Apache"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "helicopters, turning your head with this"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "goggle system on also turns the remote"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "weapon system to where your eyes are"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "looking. So, just make sure you never"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "make direct eye contact with your"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "buddies in this way. Now, demo footage"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "of the Type 100 has also been unlike"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "anything I've seen from the PLA. It's"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "similar to the demo footage that we see"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "coming out of the Pentagon recently. It"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "seems like they all use the same editor"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "or 3D animator. They're all sharing the"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "same guy that's working out of Pakistan,"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "I'm guessing. And uh it's these pretty"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "slick 3D animations for the tactics that"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "they use. They even reused a Rathon"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "animation for their explainer of how"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "their active protection systems work."}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "The footage reveals it'll have a little"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "compartment that can launch a drone out"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "in front of the tank to scout ahead for"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "targets. A lot of the demo footage for"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "the Type 100 doesn't show the tank"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "firing its main gun. It shows something"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "we almost never see. The hard kill"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "defensive knocking out live incoming"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "threats. We're talking ATGMs, even"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "rockets fired from drones hovering over"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "Bob. That's something of a a first"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "that's been publicly released. Video"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "evidence that China's active protection"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "system, according to these videos,"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "actually works. Now, at a first glance,"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "the Type 100 setup looks like a copy of"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "the Trophy or the American Active"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "Protection Systems. But if you dig a"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "little deeper for that bone, it's"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "actually different. Instead of blasting"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "out a shotgun-like spread of metal"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "pellet fragments to shred the warhead at"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "close range, China's GL6 system fires"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "many missiles. Each interceptor has its"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "own propellant, so it's operates under"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "its own drive, almost like a mini VLS"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "launch cell wrapped around the turret."}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "The design is pretty unusual. I've never"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "seen anything quite like it on an"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "operational tank. And what does that"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "mean? In theory, this approach could let"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "the system engage threats further out"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "than plet charges ever could. Maybe even"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "small drones further away. Because each"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "interceptor can be angled upward, it has"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "a chance of swatting down some of the"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "westernstyle top attack munitions like"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "javelins, which are notoriously hard to"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "stop with older APS tank. The whole"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "thing is queued by four radar arrays,"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "giving the tank full 360 degree"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "coverage. It's a concept that feels"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "closer to South Korea's KAPS active"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "protection system or even the United"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "States quick kill program that I believe"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "Rathon worked on back in the 2000s. And"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "if it works as advertised, it explains"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "why Chinese media calls the Type 100"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "this mini Aegis destroyer on land that"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "it doubles as a kind of short-range air"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "defense system. Now, cosmetically, the"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "Type 100 looks closer to maybe a Russian"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "T14 nextG tank, but under the hood, all"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "of its sensors and its tactics. It's"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "more in common with the NATO and Western"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "philosophy of warfare. According to CCTV"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "reports, this isn't just a one-off. They"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "claim that the Type 100 is going to be"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "the core strength of the PLA ground"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "force on future battlefields. At the end"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "of the day, the older Type 99 still led"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "the parade, though. The Type 999 was"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "still the centerpiece of their entire"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "armored display to the public. Why is"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "that? Because the Type 100 is extremely"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "expensive. Who knows how much it'll cost"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "and Chinese sources claim that widescale"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "production is not yet feasible. That the"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "PLA is still testing the concept on"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "network ccentric warfare. What it does"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "show is that either way, China has the"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "ability to quickly adapt and field the"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "tank prototype based on something they"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "seem to have already been working on."}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "And that is an answer to some of the"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "ways that armored warfare has changed"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "since the proliferation of drone combat."}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "If you like this video, check out this"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "one here. I think you'll really dig it."}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "I'm your average infant, Chris Cappy."}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "Please remember to hit the like and"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "subscribe button if you haven't already."}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "Ending transmission."}]

[{"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "This Seal Team 6 raid into North Korean territory is one of the most insane covert actions ever undertaken. The leaks describe a highly classified infiltration mission where if things went wrong, the Pentagon assessed there was a nonzero chance of a hostage crisis with SEALs captured and a shooting war with North Korea. Nonzero chance is another way of saying, \"Sir, this whole thing could blow up in our faces.\" The details of the mission have now opened up a bunch of questions about how and why classified information is leaked to the press in the first place. And how did this tactical espionage mission fall apart? What was so important that they needed to risk everything sending the seals into North Korea? And why are some veterans coming out now calling details of the mission into question? All I know is if you can't accept me at my botched mission inside North Korea, you don't deserve me at my bin Laden raid in Pakistan."}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:00:55", "text": ">> Making big bucks in 2025 is simpler than a lot of people think. All you need is this episode sponsor, Outskill, the world's first AI focused education platform. Start earning in weeks whether you want a highpaying job or launch your own business. AI skilled professionals have 130% better performance. And this weekend, you can join the 2-day AI mastermind workshop that's happening this Saturday and Sunday, 10:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. Eastern time. You get 16 hours with expert mentors that have built and shipped over 100 AI products and real revenue models of between 3 and 4K. I've partnered with Outskll to give away 1,000 free seats for the next 72 hours, completely free, so you've got nothing to lose. Over 10 million people have joined in the past year, and it's rated 4.9 out of five on Trust Pilot. You get free lifetime access to outskills exclusive AI community of over 5,000 professionals. You'll learn over 10 powerful AI tools, prompt engineering, workflow automation. You get the prompt bible with 3,000 prompts on day one, the road map to monetize AI on day two, and the personalized AI toolkit. So sign up to unlock bonuses worth $5,100, but seats are limited. So grab yours by clicking the link in the description, and join the WhatsApp community to stay updated. Now, people think the Korean demilitarized zone, the DMZ, has been a peaceful, quiet location since the ceasefire in 1953. But in reality, the two sides have had hundreds of violations. They've exchanged gunfire, artillery, and conducted raids, and sabotage missions against one another."}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:02:17", "text": "North Korea even once sent a team of assassins deep inside South Korea to try to kill their president. You guys, the thing is, the war never officially ended. There was no peace agreement. The two sides basically just yelled time out. In light of this violent track record in history, the US tries a new strategy in 2018 of reopening direct negotiations with the North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un himself, breaking nearly seven decades of silence between the US presidents and North Korean leaders. But the big problem is the US intelligence community knows next to nothing about Kim's real motivations for accepting the talks. Is he actually planning to commit to any promises in good faith? Or is it just a cynical ploy trying to manipulate the talks for his own ends? They need to know what Kim Jong-un is telling his inner circle in private compared to what he's saying publicly. And the problem is they don't have any assets inside the hermit kingdom. The American intel community comes up with a solution though. a highly specialized surveillance gizmo that can intercept and listen in on North Korean communications without them having any idea. But it has one downside. The catch is it only works at short range. The US government is very confident that it'll work if they can just plant the device close enough to this sensitive North Korean military site. Simpo submarine base is the strongest candidate because its geography allows for a covert approach from the Sea of Japan and the EC. The coastline here is rugged, but it is accessible with different inlets. So Kim frequently visits Simpo submarine base, and communications with his leadership would go through here. This base is directly tied to North Korea's strategic nuclear weapons program. So, anything agreed upon during the diplomatic talks would be confirmed with this surveillance device. Seal Team 6 Red Squadron is handpicked for the OP."}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:13", "text": "They're the unit famous for killing Osama bin Laden. So, they have experience crossing borders in secrecy and violating air and water space alike."}, {"end": "00:06:10", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "From the start, this is an ambitious operation because North Korean coastline is one of the most heavily surveiled regions in the entire world. Any kind of airborne insertion method would be too likely to be detected. So, the operators settle on an insertion from below the waves. The details and accounts of this mission are based on interviews that Dave Phillips and Matthew Cole conducted at the New York Times. They spoke with two dozen people, including government officials, current and former military personnel who have direct knowledge of the mission. If anyone found out who they are, they would likely end up in prison. But we'll get more into the leak side of the story at the end of the video. There are insider sources that actually revealed that the SEALs had done this exact type of underwater insertion into North Korea at least once before in 2005 during the Bush administration. The outcome of that was positive enough to convince the Pentagon that they could pull off a similar insertion method for this one in 2019."}, {"end": "00:06:21", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "Still, the SEALs trained for months in preparation. Meanwhile, the entire US intelligence apparatus watched the North Korean coast like hawks. Using satellites and spy planes, they observe both military and civilian traffic patterns in the target area. They use this information to identify the best possible window of time for the SEAL team to make their move unnoticed. JCO zeroed in on February for the mission because this was when the winter nights are still too cold for much of the fishing or military patrols. But the weather conditions aren't going to be too harsh on the boats and the swimmers as it would be earlier in the season."}, {"end": "00:06:08", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "So, the SEALs are flown to Kadina Air Force Base in Okinawa, Japan, where they board a US nuclear submarine, most likely at Akosuku Naval Base in Japan."}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:05:57", "text": "This is a major US naval hub with the facilities to prep this kind of mission."}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "From there, they're on their way to a North Korean coast. Once the submarine is 50 km from the target area, they use the subsecure communications array to request final authorization directly from the White House. For this sensitive mission, only the president can give the order to proceed. The confirmation words came through. The op was a go. The sub dives deeper and silently slips through the border into hostile territory. Once they're 20 km offshore, the team prepares in a giant dry dock shelter room where the seal delivery vehicles at. These are wet subs. They have wet cockpits, which means that the interior is filled with seawater. It has a bunch of different advantages compared to other submarines. Everything is dark except for the control panel. It's very stealthy. The team sets off into their two SVDs into the darkness of the water."}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "Each SDV has four seals in it and two pilots. The electric motors propel them silently and without even creating any bubbles that you could see at the top, but the team still goes above the surface to scan the area at regular intervals. The Mark 8 Mod 1 STVs creep toward shore at a speed of about three knots. They navigate by Doppler sonar systems to avoid detection. With no drones overhead, no aircraft to watch them, no friendlies nearby to give them real-time information of the target area, it's up to the SEALs themselves to watch for threats using their night vision and thermal goggles. The landing zone on the rocky shore looks clear. One of the STVs overshoots the designation drop zone and has to circle back. The two mini sub crews open their hatches to get a better look at each other to avoid and prevent collision. They settle onto the seafloor after a few minutes at the pre-planned DZ. Finally, in place, where the water is about 30 ft deep, the shore party locks out. They decouple from the mini subs and they fin it over to the beach. The shore team makes it onto dry land and they take off their gear."}, {"end": "00:08:33", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "They're equipped with sterilized weapons and ammo that have their serial and lot numbers scrubbed off to make them impossible to trace back to the United States. So far, almost everything is going according to plan. Now they just need to get close enough to the communications relay tower that's tied to the Simpo submarine base. But that's when things take a serious left turn."}, {"end": "00:08:17", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "The SEAL team isn't alone in the bay."}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "The short party spots what looks like a potential enemy North Korean patrol boat and they take cover. They can't see much detail at this distance, even with night vision. But to their horror, they watch the North Korean boat crew switch on their flashlights and start peering down into the water. The seals have no idea how anyone could know where they are, but the North Korean boat crew definitely seems to be searching for something. The crew is wearing wet suits and they're looking straight where the American mini subs are. Beneath the waves, the mini sub crew can see the boat above them and the flashlights searching through the water for them."}, {"end": "00:10:23", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "They have no way to contact the shore party. And back on shore, the seals watch as one of the North Korean boat crew jumps into the water. Thinking the mission is compromised, the team leader on the shore makes the decision to open fire. Precise shots from sound suppressed rifles eliminate all three North Korean crewmen in seconds, including the one that had dove into the water. Even with no witnesses, the team's cover is still blown. Eventually, someone in North Korea will realize that these crewmen are missing, and they're going to come and investigate. This will compromise the listening device, even if they try to plant it. So, the team leader makes the decision to scrub the mission and they quickly put their dive gear back on. The SEALs swim over to the suspected enemy patrol boat to investigate, but once they reach it, they make another alarming discovery."}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "These weren't North Korean soldiers at all. Allegedly, there were no weapons, no uniforms on the boat. And according to the Times report, these were simply fishermen who were out diving for shellfish. That might have been why the US operators thermals hadn't seen the North Korean crew from further away. The cold water and thick neoprene wet suits mask their heat signatures until it was too late. But they still have to cover up their presence. From an operational perspective, the damage had been done."}, {"end": "00:11:22", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "From the SEAL's perspective, at this point, it was better to have the bodies go mysteriously missing than wash up on shore with bullet holes all over. The seals use their combat knives to deflate the lungs of the bodies so that they sink them deep into the water. Then they scuttle the boat, watching it sink as well. The SEALs return to their mini sub. They lock in and exfiltrate. The team sends a pre-planned emergency code word to the big mother ship submarine that's waiting for them, letting them know that they've aborted the mission and they are RTB returning to base. But the short message doesn't convey any other info and it causes confusion back on the bridge of the nuclear submarine."}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "This meant leadership thinks that this seal team had been discovered by the North Korean military and they might be already fighting for their lives. So the submarine captain readies a second team of SEALs that were on standby in case the mission ran into trouble and needed extra firepower. They have a whole backup force offshore, including a stealth helicopter. Throwing the usual safety protocols overboard, the sub captain brings the 10,000 ton submarine into the shallows for an emergency lightning fast extract. The subs need depth under the keel to maneuver safely."}, {"end": "00:11:43", "start": "00:11:15", "text": "Usually in shallows, they're close to running around or kicking up turbulence that exposes them, but they're able to get closer and cut the return trip for the STVs in half. The team safely makes it back on board and leaves the region."}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:11:29", "text": "But the fallout of the mission has only just begun. Surveillance afterwards notices an uptick in North Korean military presence. The location was swarmed for several hours afterwards, but there appears to be no indication that they were fully aware in North Korea what exactly had happened. In the fallout of the mission, Washington initially seeks a diplomatic deal with North Korea, but these talks fall apart."}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "They settle for a 2018 signed joint statement. essentially lays out the two are going to work on building a lasting peace on the Korean peninsula and by 2019 diplomatic moves do continue with Trump even stepping into North Korea at the DMZ in June of that year. So it appears like North Korea was not on the defensive. They weren't aware of what happened. However, the story's revelation now in 2025 has caused all kinds of fallout and consequences and it's a geopolitical bomb. Online, there's been a mix of people saying leaking the story was treason, that it's put people in danger, and that it's made the situation on the Korean Peninsula even more of a powder keg. Other veterans stated that they believe the story was incomplete or inaccurate. One said, \"Hold on, the New York Times actually ran that story. There are so many holes in that story, it's unbelievable. There's zero chance any of this spineless at the Pentagon would have approved a mission that would have put special operators boots on the ground in North Korea while the president was meeting with North Korea at the DMZ. And quote, reporters start questioning the White House if it even happened."}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:12:58", "text": ">> I know nothing about that. You >> confirmed that it happened?"}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:01", "text": ">> I don't know anything about it. You I'm hearing it now for the first time."}, {"end": "00:15:05", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "Others were more concerned with the legality of the mission itself, saying that this might have been a breach of the War Powers Act, which requires the executive branch to inform Congress within 48 hours of any kind of military action. Even Title 50 covert action requires limited congressional oversight. A follow-up review by the Defense Department, at the time it was called the Defense Department, brought it up again in 2021. The Secretary of Defense informed Congress at that point that they launched an independent investigation into the operation to determine what caused the operation's failure. The result was it cleared the seals of any wrongdoing, that their actions were recorded as within the rules of engagement. Trump had been seeking continued talks with North Korea since returning to office for a second time, but with the fallout from this story, those are likely now dead in the water. But why would these insiders in the military leak this information and why would they do it? Now, according to the author of the report speaking on CNN, it's because of a few things."}, {"end": "00:16:15", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "First, they want accountability. They want the public to know that not all SEAL special operations missions go off according to plan. And there are risks with these operations. And because they want policy makers to know special operators failures are hidden behind government secrecy. These leakers want policy makers to be aware of not just the high stakes profile successes but also the failures. Otherwise they'll underestimate the risks is what they're saying. Now from this point of view it's sampling bias on a grand scale. There's a warped view of how military operations actually work in the public. Even on this channel, we often talk about the successes, but we don't often think about the ramifications of their failures of some of these missions. The US currently has a nuclear attack submarine off the coast of Venezuela, for instance. And the administration is considering using covert action against the cartels in different countries possibly. And so this has opened up the question of were these leaks possibly designed for Congress to be dissuaded from that kind of action being taken place? There are often political motivations for leaks to try to damage the credibility of an administration."}, {"end": "00:15:53", "start": "00:15:10", "text": "But if this mission is so heavily classified that even the New York Times reporters say that they withheld some of the leaked details, why were government and military insiders free to share it with the press? Aren't there laws against that kind of thing? That's absolutely true. And people have actually gone to prison for sharing classified information with the press."}, {"end": "00:17:15", "start": "00:15:31", "text": "Officials that share this info take huge risks since they know that they face prosecution if the man finds out who leaked the details. Doesn't matter if they get published or not, even if it's done unintentionally. Whistleblower protections, for instance, are paper thin when it comes to revealing top secret national security, national defense information. There's actually more legal cover for the press that reports this kind of information. In 1971, the Supreme Court ruled that the press has the legal right under the First Amendment to publish the infamous Pentagon Papers, which had damning details of how the president had knowingly lied to Congress and the American people about the scope of the US involvement in the Vietnam War. Now, journalists have some protections when it comes to not revealing their sources, but in some cases, they can actually be compelled to reveal sources unless they choose to go to jail, and some have."}, {"end": "00:18:46", "start": "00:16:23", "text": "Where it gets murky though is the actual limits for journalists. The term leak itself doesn't even have a set definition. So news outlets mostly have to determine for themselves if information crosses the line or not. The Times has an entire web page that describes how they make decisions on how to publish or withhold. And they basically determine that if something there crosses their desk that could directly impact national security or individual safety, that's their boundary. We've seen the Times has broken many stories that are about covert action like different CIA bases inside of Ukraine and different authorizations that have turned out to be true in the past. Although there is also a track record of mistakes that they've made. And whether you believe every detail or not, this leak pulls back the curtain, I think, on just how dangerous covert action really is. And it leaves us asking, how many other secret missions are there out there buried in silence until the next leak blows them wide open? If you like this video, check out this one. I think you'll like it about a botch CIA backed operation against Russian mercenaries working alongside Ukraine inside of Barus. It's crazy. It's one of my favorite episodes that we've done. I'm your average infantryman, Chris Cappy."}, {"end": "00:17:37", "start": "00:17:34", "text": "Ending transmission."}]

[{"end": "00:00:04", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "Hybrid warfare is upon us because"}, {"end": "00:00:06", "start": "00:00:02", "text": "Russian shahad attack drones just"}, {"end": "00:00:08", "start": "00:00:04", "text": "penetrated deep into Polish territory,"}, {"end": "00:00:10", "start": "00:00:06", "text": "forcing NATO to scramble fighter jets in"}, {"end": "00:00:12", "start": "00:00:08", "text": "an attempt to shoot them down. What all"}, {"end": "00:00:14", "start": "00:00:10", "text": "this means, to put it into perspective,"}, {"end": "00:00:17", "start": "00:00:12", "text": "is this is the first time in history"}, {"end": "00:00:20", "start": "00:00:14", "text": "that NATO forces have directly engaged"}, {"end": "00:00:22", "start": "00:00:17", "text": "the Russian military, raising fears that"}, {"end": "00:00:23", "start": "00:00:20", "text": "the war could spill over. So, is it"}, {"end": "00:00:26", "start": "00:00:22", "text": "finally time to sound the alarmist"}, {"end": "00:00:29", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "alarm, or is this all just one great big"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:26", "text": "misunderstanding? eyes. Poland's prime"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:29", "text": "minister said, \"This situation brings us"}, {"end": "00:00:35", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "closest we have ever been to open"}, {"end": "00:00:37", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "conflict since World War II and that"}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:35", "text": "they're facing an enemy that doesn't"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:37", "text": "hide its hostile intentions.\" Meanwhile,"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "the Russian Defense Ministry hid their"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "hostile intentions by denying any"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "involvement, saying, quote, \"No targets"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "on the territory of Poland were planned"}, {"end": "00:00:51", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "for destruction.\" Today, I want to know"}, {"end": "00:00:53", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "what's the evidence for whether or not"}, {"end": "00:00:55", "start": "00:00:51", "text": "this was really a deliberate drone"}, {"end": "00:00:57", "start": "00:00:53", "text": "attack. What was the Russian military's"}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:55", "text": "objectives here? How effective was"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:57", "text": "NATO's response really? I'm your average"}, {"end": "00:01:04", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "info, Chris Cappy. Let's find out. But"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "before we get into that, this episode is"}, {"end": "00:01:08", "start": "00:01:04", "text": "sponsored by Jaco Fuel because all"}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "energy is not created equal. And how you"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "choose to power yourself is important. I"}, {"end": "00:01:14", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "mean, it's 2025, you guys. I think we've"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "evolved past trashy garbage gas station"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:14", "text": "energy drinks. At this point, I don't"}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "have time for drinks that spike me with"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "energy, then crash me out. That's why I"}, {"end": "00:01:23", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "switched to Jaco Fuel, because Go is"}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "clean energy that's good for me. It's"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:23", "text": "got 95 mg of caffeine, so it wakes me up"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "for the day while at the same time being"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "balanced with atheanine and a neutropic"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:30", "text": "blend that keeps me focused but not"}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "cracked out. No sugar, no chemical"}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "aftertaste, just crisp, sustained energy"}, {"end": "00:01:41", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "that lets me push through long work"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:38", "text": "days. And here's the thing, over 90% of"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "energy drinks fail in their first year"}, {"end": "00:01:46", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "because, let's be honest, most of them"}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "suck and they don't do what they claim."}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:46", "text": "But Jaco Fuel has been going strong for"}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "over eight years now because there are"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "tons of people who actually find it"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "valuable and enjoy it like myself. And I"}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "see you guys in the comments section"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "saying how much you love it too. And you"}, {"end": "00:02:01", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "can't fake that. So if you're building"}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "something, a body, a career, a family or"}, {"end": "00:02:07", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "business, go to jofuel.com and use my"}, {"end": "00:02:09", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "code cappy 25 for 25% off your first"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:07", "text": "order of performance fuel. The links in"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:09", "text": "the description and pin comment below."}, {"end": "00:02:15", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "Back to the episode. What happened is 19"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "Russian drones entered Polish airspace"}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:15", "text": "from 11:30 p.m. on Tuesday night until"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "6:30 a.m. Wednesday, September 10th."}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "Violating airspace is considered a big"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "party foul in this region. So NATO"}, {"end": "00:02:29", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "scrambled assets from multiple different"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "countries, including Polish F-16"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:29", "text": "fighters, Dutch F-35 stealth fighters,"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "and German Patriot air defense batteries"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "to intercept these drones. All these"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "different countries weaponry was"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "coordinated with an Italian airborne"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "warning surveillance aircraft which"}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "identified the location of these enemy"}, {"end": "00:02:49", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "targets fed it to the fighter jets real"}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:47", "text": "time who then shot down at least four of"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:49", "text": "them. What we know is Russia launched"}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "over 400 attack drones and some 40"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "missiles into western Ukraine on that"}, {"end": "00:03:00", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "night. And the reason NATO officials"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "think this isn't true that it's just an"}, {"end": "00:03:04", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "accident is because of how many and how"}, {"end": "00:03:06", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "deep they penetrated into Polish"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:04", "text": "territory. Look at the live conflict map"}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:06", "text": "behind me. It's never a good day when I"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "say that. The map shows us the marked"}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "geol locations where Russian drone"}, {"end": "00:03:16", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "pieces were recovered. Where were these"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "drones headed? The answer to that is"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:16", "text": "being used as the single biggest piece"}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "of evidence that this was an intentional"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "Russian drone incursion because one"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "senior military official said that these"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "drones had the flight path on their way"}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "towards the city of Zeshov inside of"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "Poland. Zeshov is in eastern Poland,"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "less than a 100 kilometers from"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "Ukraine's border. It just so happens to"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "be a key logistics hub for NATO weapons"}, {"end": "00:03:47", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "being sent into Ukraine. In fact, 80% of"}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "all foreign aid and weaponry transits"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:47", "text": "through Poland. There are warehouses"}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "here to store the munitions. Could it be"}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "a coincidence that these drones were"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "headed there? Who knows? Only the"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:55", "text": "military gods, right? Russia's shahad"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "drones could destroy these shipments"}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "when they're at their most vulnerable,"}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "all tied up and locked down in the"}, {"end": "00:04:09", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "shipment. Robert Kagan, a senior fellow"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "at the Brookings Institute, said, quote,"}, {"end": "00:04:13", "start": "00:04:09", "text": "\"The only surprising thing about the"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "attack on Poland is that it didn't"}, {"end": "00:04:18", "start": "00:04:13", "text": "happen sooner. Since before World War I,"}, {"end": "00:04:20", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "it was understood that if one nation's"}, {"end": "00:04:23", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "government provided weapons and war"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:20", "text": "material directly to another nation at"}, {"end": "00:04:28", "start": "00:04:23", "text": "war with a third nation, that legally"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "made the donor a belligerent in the war"}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:28", "text": "and therefore subject to attack. And"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "when intercepting drones, these aircraft"}, {"end": "00:04:38", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "have to stay on station for hours at a"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "time. So Polish citizens uploaded"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "footage throughout the night, hearing"}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "different NATO fighter aircraft circling"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "overhead. In fact, Polish authorities"}, {"end": "00:04:48", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "had to send out an alert to some 9"}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "million residents in the eastern part of"}, {"end": "00:04:53", "start": "00:04:48", "text": "the country telling them to shelter in"}, {"end": "00:04:55", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "place during the attack. But it's not"}, {"end": "00:04:57", "start": "00:04:53", "text": "just about the cost of weapons. Really,"}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:55", "text": "you got to consider the cost of"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:57", "text": "scrambling jets. It's enormous. Take a"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "look at these numbers that are publicly"}, {"end": "00:05:05", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "released by the Pentagon for the costs."}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "It's millions of dollars each time these"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:05", "text": "jets have to be on station overnight."}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "Not to mention the maintenance wear and"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "tear on all the airframes. Usually"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "air-to-air missiles from fighter jets"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "cost millions of dollars. The military"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "powers of NATO would not be able to"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "routinely use F-35s to intercept these"}, {"end": "00:05:25", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "cheap drones each and every night. I"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "remember when I was younger and totally"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:25", "text": "broke. I took my wife out on our first"}, {"end": "00:05:32", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "date night. Spent a bunch of money, but"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "after that we started dating regularly"}, {"end": "00:05:37", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "and I realized I couldn't sustain that."}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "What I'm saying is using F-35s is a"}, {"end": "00:05:41", "start": "00:05:37", "text": "steak dinner. You can't do it every"}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "night. But very recently, NATO allies"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:41", "text": "have developed a new capability exactly"}, {"end": "00:05:47", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "meant for this kind of occasion. They"}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "likely launched their new advanced"}, {"end": "00:05:52", "start": "00:05:47", "text": "precision kill weapon system. These are"}, {"end": "00:05:54", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "relatively cheap. They're like $15,000"}, {"end": "00:05:56", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "rockets that destroy attack drones at a"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:54", "text": "fraction of the cost of other air-to-air"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:56", "text": "missiles. So the F-15, for instance, is"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "capable of carrying 42 of these 70 mil"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "rockets to hit multiple drones, far more"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "than the like eight regular air-to-air"}, {"end": "00:06:10", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "missiles that you might see on there."}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "Those drones only cost about $40,000 for"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:10", "text": "Russia to produce. And they're capable"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "of carrying a hefty payload of like 40"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "kg, 90 lb, which is basically around the"}, {"end": "00:06:21", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "explosive punch of like an artillery"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "shell. It can level a building. Four out"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:21", "text": "of nine drones intercepted doesn't sound"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "like an outstanding interception rate,"}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "but this is for a number of reasons."}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "Shooting anything down midair with a"}, {"end": "00:06:34", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "multi-million dollar munition from a war"}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "plane can cause tremendous risk to the"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:34", "text": "people underneath. It's a real hazard."}, {"end": "00:06:40", "start": "00:06:37", "text": "No one wants fragments from these"}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "landing on their Volkswagen. It can be"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:40", "text": "more safe to let the drone crash,"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "especially if it's unclear if it's"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "armed, has a payload or not. And it"}, {"end": "00:06:49", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "sounds like these drones were unarmed."}, {"end": "00:06:51", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "And we'll get more into that in a"}, {"end": "00:06:54", "start": "00:06:49", "text": "second. So, Polish officials said that"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "only the drones that posed a real threat"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:54", "text": "were ones that were chosen to be shot"}, {"end": "00:07:00", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "down. Military analysts all across the"}, {"end": "00:07:03", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "board though are pretty unanimously"}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "warning that NATO's response has exposed"}, {"end": "00:07:08", "start": "00:07:03", "text": "a weakness to Russia when it comes to"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "this type of warfare. NATO does not"}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "currently seem to have the"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:09", "text": "cost-effective mobile and defense teams"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "with 50 cal machine gun trucks. They"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "don't deploy helicopters or UAV"}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "interceptor teams for this kind of"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "purpose. The best option currently that"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "they seem to have is expensive stealth"}, {"end": "00:07:26", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "fighter jets. Conrad, the director of"}, {"end": "00:07:28", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "Roshan Consulting, is a defense analyst"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:26", "text": "that's an expert on Russia and Bellarus."}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:28", "text": "His analysis was that claims that some"}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "drones were deliberately allowed through"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "because they posed no threat should be"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:35", "text": "regarded as a dangerous illusion."}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "Evidence that the drone attack caught"}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "authorities by surprise is the fact that"}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "some of the wreckage was found as far as"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "550 km or 340 mi deep into Polish"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "territory. This suggests that many of"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "these drones could have been intercepted"}, {"end": "00:07:57", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "much sooner. So, extensive safety"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "precautions were obviously taken. Poland"}, {"end": "00:08:01", "start": "00:07:57", "text": "went as far as to shut down major"}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "airports, including Warsaw. What is"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:08:01", "text": "Russia's goal here? It would be to"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "influence public opinion to not support"}, {"end": "00:08:10", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "the war in Ukraine. Poland has sent some"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "$4 billion to support it so far. It'd be"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:10", "text": "an attempt to deter Poland from"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "increasing support for Ukraine. Robert"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "Kagan said, quote, \"Aiding Ukraine has"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "already begun to be a controversial"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "subject in Poland. The prospect of"}, {"end": "00:08:25", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "Russian attacks and retaliation could"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "drive up opposition, especially if the"}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:25", "text": "United States proves unreliable.\" End"}, {"end": "00:08:31", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "quote. It can also be aimed at creating"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "what is essentially drama between the"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:31", "text": "NATO ally because it could force there"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "to be disagreements over the best way to"}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "respond that causes stress. Because"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "already the incursions have caused a"}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "wide variety of opinions on how serious"}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "the response should be. It's ranged from"}, {"end": "00:08:51", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "US Congressman Joe Wilson saying quote"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "this is an act of war. And meanwhile the"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:51", "text": "prime minister of the United Kingdom had"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "some more tame words saying quote it's"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "extremely reckless move which only"}, {"end": "00:09:03", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "serves to remind us of President Putin's"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "blatant disregard for peace. The US"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:03", "text": "response so far has been less alarm"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "compared to the NATO members with the"}, {"end": "00:09:11", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "president saying quote it could have"}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "been a mistake. End quote. It's"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:11", "text": "important to note that there's some"}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "10,000 US troops stationed in Poland who"}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "are at risk to these type of attacks."}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "Some of the evidence that suggests this"}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:20", "text": "was not simply a misunderstanding is the"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "fact that the majority of these drones"}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "came in from Bellarus. They appear to"}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "have come from the increased presence of"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "Russian forces happen to already be in"}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "Bellarus right now because this all"}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "happens to coincide with the large scale"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "Zapad 25 military exercises. This of"}, {"end": "00:09:42", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "course wouldn't be the first time that"}, {"end": "00:09:44", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "Russian troops had used military"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:42", "text": "training drills as a cover for an"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:44", "text": "attack. However, it's also true that"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "Russian drones crash landing all over"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "the region is not that unusual. Russian"}, {"end": "00:09:55", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "drones have even crossed into Poland as"}, {"end": "00:09:57", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "early as last week. Over the past year,"}, {"end": "00:10:00", "start": "00:09:55", "text": "there's been multiple reports of a"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:57", "text": "single drone or two landing in Romania,"}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:10:00", "text": "Malddova, or the Baltic states. I see"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "this these kind of reports are up all"}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "the time. Lithuania has caught Russian"}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "drones crashing on their territory,"}, {"end": "00:10:14", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "which also prompted scrambling of NATO"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:11", "text": "jets just earlier this year. You might"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "recall earlier in the invasion of"}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "Ukraine back in November of 2022, a"}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "missile landed in Poland, killing two"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "people near the border. Originally, it"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "was believed to be a Russian missile,"}, {"end": "00:10:27", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "but a full investigation by Polish"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "authorities later revealed that it was"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:27", "text": "an air defense missile that had misfired"}, {"end": "00:10:35", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "from Ukraine. So, armed Russian attack"}, {"end": "00:10:37", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "drones have landed inside of Lafia."}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "There are dozens, literally dozens of"}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:37", "text": "these reports over the past few years."}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "In these instances, each country kind of"}, {"end": "00:10:46", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "did a handwave and said, \"Yeah, you know"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "what? Mistakes happen.\" And they didn't"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:46", "text": "use it as a reason to have a full-on"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "freakout over it. So, why is it"}, {"end": "00:10:55", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "different? this time. What's different"}, {"end": "00:10:57", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "now than all those other occasions? A"}, {"end": "00:10:59", "start": "00:10:55", "text": "security official from Barus said it was"}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:57", "text": "because the drones had been jammed that"}, {"end": "00:11:02", "start": "00:10:59", "text": "they went into Poland in the first"}, {"end": "00:11:06", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "place. Russia's senior diplomat in"}, {"end": "00:11:08", "start": "00:11:02", "text": "Poland named Ordash said, quote, \"We"}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:06", "text": "consider the accusations groundless. No"}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:08", "text": "evidence that these drones are of"}, {"end": "00:11:14", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "Russian origin has been presented.\" I"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "guess implying that these are Ukrainian"}, {"end": "00:11:17", "start": "00:11:14", "text": "drones. \"Russia's absolutely not"}, {"end": "00:11:19", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "interested in an escalation with"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:17", "text": "Poland,\" he goes on to say. But"}, {"end": "00:11:23", "start": "00:11:19", "text": "unfortunately, there is no reason to"}, {"end": "00:11:25", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "expect that the Polish authorities in"}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:23", "text": "their anti-Russian frenzy will listen to"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "us either. US General Alexis Grinkovich,"}, {"end": "00:11:32", "start": "00:11:28", "text": "who's NATO's Supreme Allied Commander in"}, {"end": "00:11:33", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "Europe, said, \"We do not yet know if"}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:32", "text": "this was an intentional act or an"}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:33", "text": "unintentional act. It's possible that"}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "Ukrainian countermeasures could divert"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "attack drones.\" It's true. I remember"}, {"end": "00:11:43", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "when I was reporting from inside of"}, {"end": "00:11:45", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "Ukraine, the front line, my phone would"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:43", "text": "get spoofed and my phone would suddenly"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:45", "text": "show my location on a map on Google"}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "Maps, for instance, is somewhere 300"}, {"end": "00:11:54", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "miles to the east or west. Sometimes my"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "phone GPS would say that I was in"}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:54", "text": "Poland. Sometimes it would say I was in"}, {"end": "00:12:01", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "Russia. The point is, when you spoof a"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:59", "text": "drone, it could send it far off course,"}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:12:01", "text": "making the drone think that it was"}, {"end": "00:12:08", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "somewhere else altogether. Jamming can"}, {"end": "00:12:09", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "send drones many miles off course"}, {"end": "00:12:11", "start": "00:12:08", "text": "because they navigate using these"}, {"end": "00:12:13", "start": "00:12:09", "text": "automated systems. Ivan isn't sitting"}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:11", "text": "behind a computer flying each and every"}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:13", "text": "400 of these drones for 16 hours"}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "straight to reach their targets. That's"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:18", "text": "all automated using satellites. But"}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "Poland and many other nations are saying"}, {"end": "00:12:27", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "that this was deliberate because the way"}, {"end": "00:12:29", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "Russian drones react to electronic"}, {"end": "00:12:31", "start": "00:12:27", "text": "warfare is supposedly one of two ways."}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:29", "text": "They either fly straight back towards"}, {"end": "00:12:36", "start": "00:12:31", "text": "the point of origin or the second way is"}, {"end": "00:12:38", "start": "00:12:34", "text": "that they go off course and crash. But"}, {"end": "00:12:41", "start": "00:12:36", "text": "what they don't do is they don't fly on"}, {"end": "00:12:43", "start": "00:12:38", "text": "a deliberate path to key military"}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:41", "text": "targets in Poland randomly because one"}, {"end": "00:12:47", "start": "00:12:43", "text": "of the drones even landed at a military"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "base according to initial reports. It's"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:47", "text": "not surprising at all that Russia would"}, {"end": "00:12:53", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "deny their involvement, right? That's"}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "kind of part of the course. We would"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:53", "text": "expect that. What is surprising, I"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "think, to me is how NATO didn't downplay"}, {"end": "00:13:02", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "it this time as just an accident like"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "all the other times in the past. It's"}, {"end": "00:13:05", "start": "00:13:02", "text": "like that friend that you keep making an"}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "excuse for and you're like, \"Nah, no,"}, {"end": "00:13:09", "start": "00:13:05", "text": "he's cool like all the time. I swear"}, {"end": "00:13:11", "start": "00:13:07", "text": "he's never like this.\" Calling it out as"}, {"end": "00:13:14", "start": "00:13:09", "text": "a Russian deliberate attack publicly"}, {"end": "00:13:16", "start": "00:13:11", "text": "risks further escalation, which to me"}, {"end": "00:13:18", "start": "00:13:14", "text": "that's something to note. But here's the"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:16", "text": "thing, guys. Russia's launched many"}, {"end": "00:13:22", "start": "00:13:18", "text": "similarsized attacks over the past few"}, {"end": "00:13:24", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "months, and this never happened before"}, {"end": "00:13:27", "start": "00:13:22", "text": "those times. We also know that Russian"}, {"end": "00:13:29", "start": "00:13:24", "text": "intelligence agencies like the FSB GUR"}, {"end": "00:13:31", "start": "00:13:27", "text": "have been confirmed to be running covert"}, {"end": "00:13:33", "start": "00:13:29", "text": "actions inside Poland since 2023."}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:31", "text": "Russia's recruited people in Poland that"}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:33", "text": "are desperate for money and task them"}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "with scouting seapports, hiding tracking"}, {"end": "00:13:41", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "devices and military cargo, and even"}, {"end": "00:13:43", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "plotting to derail trains that are"}, {"end": "00:13:45", "start": "00:13:41", "text": "carrying weapons to Ukraine. Russian"}, {"end": "00:13:47", "start": "00:13:43", "text": "sabotage campaigns have been linked to"}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:45", "text": "warehouses, fires all the way in"}, {"end": "00:13:51", "start": "00:13:47", "text": "Britain, an attack against the dam in"}, {"end": "00:13:53", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "Norway, and multiple cables cut under"}, {"end": "00:13:56", "start": "00:13:51", "text": "the Baltic Sea. It doesn't take a"}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:53", "text": "military genius mastermind to recognize"}, {"end": "00:14:01", "start": "00:13:56", "text": "that a drone attack on Zeshoff would be"}, {"end": "00:14:04", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "a major goal or even forcing more"}, {"end": "00:14:07", "start": "00:14:01", "text": "security in this region slows down"}, {"end": "00:14:09", "start": "00:14:04", "text": "shipments of this military aid and makes"}, {"end": "00:14:11", "start": "00:14:07", "text": "them move under the cover of night only."}, {"end": "00:14:13", "start": "00:14:09", "text": "I was surprised to recently learn that"}, {"end": "00:14:15", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "Russia's been flying surveillance drones"}, {"end": "00:14:17", "start": "00:14:13", "text": "over logistics routes that the United"}, {"end": "00:14:19", "start": "00:14:15", "text": "States uses to ship this military aid"}, {"end": "00:14:22", "start": "00:14:17", "text": "through Eastern Germany. So, Russia's"}, {"end": "00:14:25", "start": "00:14:19", "text": "operating drones already in Germany, way"}, {"end": "00:14:26", "start": "00:14:22", "text": "further west than Poland. They're"}, {"end": "00:14:28", "start": "00:14:25", "text": "collecting intelligence with these"}, {"end": "00:14:31", "start": "00:14:26", "text": "drones that may be used for future"}, {"end": "00:14:33", "start": "00:14:28", "text": "sabotage efforts. It also gives them"}, {"end": "00:14:35", "start": "00:14:31", "text": "advanced notice of when different types"}, {"end": "00:14:36", "start": "00:14:33", "text": "of weapon systems are arriving at the"}, {"end": "00:14:38", "start": "00:14:35", "text": "front line in Ukraine. The thing is,"}, {"end": "00:14:41", "start": "00:14:36", "text": "this is exactly the kind of plausible"}, {"end": "00:14:44", "start": "00:14:38", "text": "deniable operation that characterizes"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:41", "text": "grayzone hybrid warfare operations."}, {"end": "00:14:47", "start": "00:14:44", "text": "Because right now, it's difficult to"}, {"end": "00:14:50", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "prove one way or the other. Really, this"}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:47", "text": "can be done incrementally each time"}, {"end": "00:14:54", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "testing the limits without outright"}, {"end": "00:14:56", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "triggering a case of full-blown war. I"}, {"end": "00:14:59", "start": "00:14:54", "text": "mean, it's it's a tough call. Do we"}, {"end": "00:15:01", "start": "00:14:56", "text": "respond with missiles or strongly worded"}, {"end": "00:15:04", "start": "00:14:59", "text": "letters? That's the big strategic"}, {"end": "00:15:07", "start": "00:15:01", "text": "dilemma of hybrid warfare. Personally, I"}, {"end": "00:15:09", "start": "00:15:04", "text": "don't think that's actually what really"}, {"end": "00:15:11", "start": "00:15:07", "text": "happened here because in the past when"}, {"end": "00:15:13", "start": "00:15:09", "text": "these kind of drones would crash in"}, {"end": "00:15:14", "start": "00:15:11", "text": "other nations, sometimes they often"}, {"end": "00:15:16", "start": "00:15:13", "text": "would be armed, which is how they"}, {"end": "00:15:18", "start": "00:15:14", "text": "normally would be. And that would"}, {"end": "00:15:20", "start": "00:15:16", "text": "suggest that it was an accident. But"}, {"end": "00:15:22", "start": "00:15:18", "text": "since they're all unarmed in this case,"}, {"end": "00:15:25", "start": "00:15:20", "text": "it seems like so far this appears to"}, {"end": "00:15:27", "start": "00:15:22", "text": "have been a dry run, a dryun test of the"}, {"end": "00:15:29", "start": "00:15:25", "text": "NATO alliance to see how the members"}, {"end": "00:15:32", "start": "00:15:27", "text": "respond to being poked and prodded like"}, {"end": "00:15:34", "start": "00:15:29", "text": "this. But uh I of course can't be 100%"}, {"end": "00:15:36", "start": "00:15:32", "text": "certain. That's the whole point in"}, {"end": "00:15:38", "start": "00:15:34", "text": "hybrid warfare, though. It leaves that"}, {"end": "00:15:40", "start": "00:15:36", "text": "little bit of room for doubt. That voice"}, {"end": "00:15:42", "start": "00:15:38", "text": "in the back of your head that always"}, {"end": "00:15:44", "start": "00:15:40", "text": "tells you, \"You're making a mistake."}, {"end": "00:15:46", "start": "00:15:42", "text": "You're wrong.\" That's the voice that"}, {"end": "00:15:48", "start": "00:15:44", "text": "makes taking any kind of decisive"}, {"end": "00:15:51", "start": "00:15:46", "text": "unified action in hybrid warfare so"}, {"end": "00:15:54", "start": "00:15:48", "text": "difficult. All of this comes just one"}, {"end": "00:15:56", "start": "00:15:51", "text": "month after the US generals released"}, {"end": "00:15:58", "start": "00:15:54", "text": "plans for the NATO eastern flank defense"}, {"end": "00:16:00", "start": "00:15:56", "text": "plan, which is designed to prevent this"}, {"end": "00:16:02", "start": "00:15:58", "text": "kind of hybrid war attack from ever"}, {"end": "00:16:04", "start": "00:16:00", "text": "happening. On the diplomatic level, the"}, {"end": "00:16:06", "start": "00:16:02", "text": "drone incursion caused Poland's"}, {"end": "00:16:09", "start": "00:16:04", "text": "government to invoke Article 4 of the"}, {"end": "00:16:11", "start": "00:16:06", "text": "NATO treaty. What's Article 4? I love"}, {"end": "00:16:14", "start": "00:16:09", "text": "bureaucracy as much as the next person."}, {"end": "00:16:16", "start": "00:16:11", "text": "And this is, my friends, a bureaucratic"}, {"end": "00:16:18", "start": "00:16:14", "text": "mechanism. Doesn't force members to take"}, {"end": "00:16:21", "start": "00:16:16", "text": "any action, but it could pave the way"}, {"end": "00:16:23", "start": "00:16:18", "text": "for a joint response. This has been"}, {"end": "00:16:26", "start": "00:16:21", "text": "invoked eight times only since the"}, {"end": "00:16:29", "start": "00:16:23", "text": "alliance was founded. So, it's kind of"}, {"end": "00:16:31", "start": "00:16:26", "text": "article 5 light. What this raises is a"}, {"end": "00:16:33", "start": "00:16:29", "text": "bunch of uncomfortable questions now"}, {"end": "00:16:36", "start": "00:16:31", "text": "about how to respond to what are being"}, {"end": "00:16:37", "start": "00:16:33", "text": "called below the threshold attacks."}, {"end": "00:16:40", "start": "00:16:36", "text": "Below the threshold means anything short"}, {"end": "00:16:41", "start": "00:16:37", "text": "of launching a missile at a country and"}, {"end": "00:16:42", "start": "00:16:40", "text": "saying, \"Yeah, I did it. What are you"}, {"end": "00:16:44", "start": "00:16:41", "text": "going to do about it?\" If you're"}, {"end": "00:16:46", "start": "00:16:42", "text": "interested in learning about missiles in"}, {"end": "00:16:49", "start": "00:16:44", "text": "warfare and how the line between drones"}, {"end": "00:16:50", "start": "00:16:46", "text": "and missiles is being blurred, check out"}, {"end": "00:16:52", "start": "00:16:49", "text": "the video here that we recently made on"}, {"end": "00:16:54", "start": "00:16:50", "text": "it. I'm very proud of it. I'm your"}, {"end": "00:16:57", "start": "00:16:52", "text": "average infantryman, Chris Cappy. Ending"}, {"end": "00:16:57", "start": "00:16:54", "text": "transmission."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "The Monroe doctrine looks like it's still alive and well as the US military deployed a fleet of"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "warships and marines surrounding the coast of Venezuela. The Pentagon's official messaging"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "is that it's a mission to combat the drug cartels. But Venezuela's President Maduro"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "says it's actually just a pretense for the US to pull off a regime change against him. We'll see"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "how this is actually just the most recent spat in a decadesl long string of escalations between"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "these two nations. These two have gone from being best bros to being on this collision course in a"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "relatively short period of time. The buildup of American firepower in the Caribbean is the largest"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "in over a generation with at least a nuclear attack submarine, three guided missile destroyers,"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "and multiple landing ships carrying over 4,500 sailors and marines. And if you've ever seen"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "how boring it gets out at sea on a MW, these guys are begging the cartel to do something."}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "and do something they did because the strike group fired their first shots at the Venezuelan cartel,"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "blowing up a smuggling boat, killing 11 alleged Trenda Aragua cartel members in a gigantic"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "fireball. Instead of capturing and questioning these guys like they would have with the Coast"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "Guard's help normally in the past, the military's now shooting first and asking questions never."}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "Venezuela's armed forces responded by deploying their own warships armed with Chinese anti-ship"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "missiles and long range Iranian designed drones off the coast. Maduro scrambled two"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "of his F-16 fighter jets that he'd ordered to buzz American destroyers at low altitude. How"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "did he get those? What's really happening here is Venezuela and the US are acting out a much"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "older geopolitical drama that has its roots in the Monroe Doctrine over 200 years ago."}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "And the story of how these two nations went from being best friends to worst adversaries,"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "helps explain what we're going to see next. Is this a ramp up to a US invasion, an attempt"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "at regime change or saber rattling? I'm your average infanterman, Chris Cappy. Let's find out."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "Today's episode is sponsored by Ground News. We'll use their website to analyze this story about if"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "the United States will strike Mexican cartels on their territory. It gives me the fast facts"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "right up on top from over 400 different outlets. Ground News goes ahead and tells me which of the"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "10% of the sources are state funded, which means they're getting paid by the government, which is"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "something I need to know if they're possibly a straightup mouthpiece of a nation. And these are"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "just some patterns that you start to notice when you play around with the app as a tool. Some US"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "outlets frame the story as routine clarification. Outlets in Mexico, however, warned that it shows"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "growing mistrust between allies. Ground News lays all this out on their bias map so I can see how"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "each side is spinning the story. That's why Ground News has become my go-to tool for cutting through"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "disinformation and misinformation. And because I believe in it so much, they're offering you"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "guys 40% off the same Vantage plan that I use. Just click the link in the description or go to"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "ground.news/cappy or scan the QR code. It brings the price down to just five bucks a month. If you"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "want a better understanding of the world, give ground news a shot. To understand why these US"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "warships are parked off Venezuela's coast, we have to start with its geopolitical importance. So,"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "Venezuela sits at one of the most strategic pieces of real estate in the Western Hemisphere,"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "right near the vital shipping lanes to the Panama Canal. And beneath it all, they have the world's"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "largest proven oil reserves. Although, it's heavy oil that's harder to refine. Venezuela is only"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "about a thousand miles away from Florida. Its close proximity and socialist ways are why it's"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "being called the new Cuba of the Second Cold War. And as with all sequels, it's much bigger with"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "a population of 30 million people and a gigantic 350,000 square miles of territory. Its topography"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "is made of dense jungles and mountains, which would make an invasion a real pain. Venezuela,"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "that was some mean bush. They have over 500,000 combined active duty and reserveists,"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "a modern arsenal of Russian main battle tanks, fighter jets, and Iranian kamicazi drones within"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "striking distance of America. But the irony is that not so long ago, the same geography made"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "Venezuela America's strongest ally in all of Latin America. So, what went so wrong? The dictator Juan"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "Gomez seizes power in 1908 and decides to open the doors wide up to US oil companies. America has"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "the industrial know-how to develop his nation's untapped oil fields. Within just a generation,"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "the US Venezuela partnership transforms the nation into the largest petroleum exporter in Latin"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "America. It's a win-win with their 50/50 split of profits that makes the country flush with Guab."}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "They've got cold hard cash and it's just in time for World War II. Venezuela fuels the Allied war"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "machine. They provide 50% of all US oil imports, becoming their single largest oil supplier. This"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "is a huge strategic win for America because it only takes 3 days to ship oil from Venezuela"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "compared to the 30 days that it takes to get oil in from the Middle East. The US sends dozens of"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "Sherman tanks and fighter aircraft as a sign of affection. But the military bromance between the"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "two nations is just beginning to blossom because in 1947 the two countries join what's called the"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "Rio Pact. It commits them to helping each other defend the Western Hemisphere against any outside"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "attack like you know communism. The Rio Pact is a lot like NATO but for the Americas instead"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "of Europe. It even has an article 3 clause that states an attack on one is attack on all. At its"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "height, everybody who's anybody in the Western Hemisphere is part of the Rio Pact. It's now"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "the 1950s and Venezuela tosses aside its form of dictatorship and authoritarian rule. They become a"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "stable democracy with elections and all that good stuff. This puts them in even closer alignment"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "with the United States government. In fact, Venezuela's friendship allows it to avoid all"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "those brutal coups and military interventions that the US conducts throughout Latin America in the"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "Cold War. And this is only the beginning. These two nations relations are on fire in the best way"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "because in 1973 the Arab oil countries withhold oil from the United States. Venezuela steps in"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "and helps out to reliably supply oil to America throughout that embargo and things could not"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "possibly get any better. Nothing could possibly go wrong. Then in 1976, things start to shift."}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "Venezuela nationalizes the oil industry which ends direct US corporate control of its oil fields. So"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "overnight, Exxon's forced to hand over control to the new Venezuelan state-owned oil company."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "Now the relationship has started to shift because the United States is simply buying the oil from"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "Venezuela instead of owning it, which means future Venezuelan leaders could use oil as a political"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "weapon against Washington. But that was a problem to worry about in the future. All relations have"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "their ups and downs, and for now, relations are reaching an all-time high. It's 1980s and"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "Venezuela just signed the Peace Delta program. It allows them to receive 24 of the advanced American"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "F-16 fighter jets. So, that's where they got them. They're actually the only Latin American country"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "to be granted this powerful capability directly. American armored vehicles, European fighter jets,"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "and a whole fleet of modern naval frigots start flowing in. Venezuela was looking like a full-on"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "prostate democracy. But underneath the boom, the resource curse is about to show its ugly head."}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "The resource curse is the fact that Venezuela is 95% dependent on oil for revenue. This is"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "a major risk. It's a huge liability because in the mid1 1980s, the price of oil collapses from"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "$30 a barrel to under $10 a barrel. This wipes out government revenue overnight and Venezuela's turn"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "to the westernled institution, the IMF, for help. The IMF is sort of like a payday loan company,"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "but for countries. The $4.5 billion bailout comes with strict strings attached. This money comes"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "with austerity measures, which means they have to cut back drastically on government spending. So,"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "if you're a citizen living in Venezuela, all you see is overnight the cost to fill up your"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "gas tank rises by 100%. Many people lose their jobs and social programs that people"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "rely on are eliminated. This shock triggers days of riots by the people. The government"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "in response deploys the army domestically to restore order. It's a horrible chaotic scene."}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "The Venezuelan soldiers open fire on crowds of people and for 3 days the capital of Caracus"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "looks like a war zone. The brutal crackdown is called the Caracaso massacre. It seared into the"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "public consciousness in Venezuela to this day. The effects were devastating. It was similar to like"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "the Great Depression. Among the young officers though ordered to deploy during this crackdown"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "against their own people was a paratrooper named Hugo Chavez. He later says he never forgot what he"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "saw. The government turning their rifles on their own citizens. 3 years later he tries to overthrow"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "the government with a coup. It fails. He's sent to prison. Chavez is later pardoned and in 1998 he"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "wins the presidency on a promise that he's going to return the nation's oil wealth to the people."}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "Chavez institutes a form of socialism under his slogan of motherland, socialism or death. Right"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "during this time, a drug trafficking organization called Cartel of the Sons takes form as a network"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "inside Venezuela's military and political elite, starting as lowranking officers skimming profits"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "off drug shipments that are passing into the United States. But this is where the"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "US relations with Venezuela take a serious turn for the worse. Chavez was openly hostile"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "to the United States from the get-go because from his perspective, Washington had spent"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "decades exploiting Venezuela's oil and toppling left-leaning governments across Latin America."}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "Hugo Chavez says, quote, \"The government brought soldiers from the interior like an invading army,"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "as if they were the armed forces of the IMF, but the two nations are still forced to play"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "nice with one another. The US government is still relying on Venezuela for about a sixth of their"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "oil imports. And Chavez continues selling oil to the United States because he needs that income."}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "But on April 11th, 2002, opposition groups stage a massive march in Caracus. Violence erupts. Gunfire"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "breaks out. Dozens of people are killed with hundreds injured. And top military commanders"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "who had been planning for this for months seize on the chaos, demanding Chavez resignation. Chavez"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "is arrested by the military and moments later the US government under the Bush administration"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "quickly recognizes his replacement. But within 48 hours, Chavez is returned to power by loyalists"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "and a public outcry supporting him. The Bush administration claims they had no credible"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "information on the coup plot. However, years later, it's revealed the CIA had actually known"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "weeks in advance. This CIA document here was later declassified, showing intel that they gathered"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "that a coup was about to happen. Whether the CIA was directly involved or just turned a blind eye,"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "either way, Chavez blames the United States for the coup against him. In 2005,"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "the US imposes a full arms embargo on Venezuela, making it impossible for Chavez to get the vital"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "replacement parts that he needs to run his F-16 fighter jets. He turns to buying military"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "equipment from Russia, including T72 tanks. Sue fighter jets, AK-103 rifles. And since 2008,"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "Moscow has flown TU160 nuclearcapable longrange strategic bombers into Venezuela,"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "staging them at their military air bases. And Russian warships have docked in Venezuelan ports"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "and advisers from Russia have trained Venezuelan forces on S300 air defense systems that they have."}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "Russian soldiers with Vagner patches have been seen on social media helping stop protests there."}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "China builds radar stations monitoring US fighter aircrafts and naval traffic. Well,"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "that all escalated quickly. Venezuela has become the most hostile nation towards the United States"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "in Latin America, but it hasn't fully crossed the line yet between these two. It can still"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "be can be turned around and salvaged. No one said anything yet that they couldn't take back. Fellas,"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "I can still save her. A month later, Chavez starts using the profits from Americanbought"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "oil to subsidize Cuba, Nicaragua, and 12 other nations. The procarbide program turns oil into"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "diplomacy. It buys him allies, which in turn buys him votes at the UN. These votes are then used as"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "a block against US projects. US agencies like the National Endowment for Democracy start to fight"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "back. They send millions of dollars in funding to Venezuelan opposition groups and media outlets in"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "attempt to weaken Chavez's power or outright overthrow him. Chavez makes a move that won't"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "allow that to happen. He abolishes presidential term limits in 2009. The country officially slides"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "back into authoritarian rule. Relations between these two are now worse than estranged. We're in"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "the middle of a full-blown messy divorce. Son, it's not your fault. Your mother just wants to"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "see other communists. And when Chavez dies in 2013, Nicholas Maduro inherits the state and the"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "hate for America. But it's the worst possible time for Maduro because the shale oil boom"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "inside the United States makes importing oil from Venezuela no longer necessary. The United States"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "becomes a net exporter of oil within a matter of a few short years, and Maduro loses almost"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "all his leverage over the United States almost immediately. Between 2014 and 2016, oil drops from"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "$100 a barrel to 30. This means nearly all of the Venezuelan government's income vanishes."}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "Hyperinflation sets in and the economy is in freef fall. Maduro claims victory in the 2018 election,"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "but international observers and much of the Venezuelan public rejected as fraudulent. The"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "problem is Maduro doesn't have the jeneesqua of Chavez. He doesn't have the popular support and"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "love that Chavez did. And to make up for this, Maduro jails major opposition candidates. They"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "escape into exile as well. And in 2019, Washington indictes Maduro in US courts as a narco drug"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "trafficker and places a $10 million bounty on his head for his arrest. In response, Maduro leans"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "even harder on America's enemies for support. He sells cheap oil to China, invites Iranian Cuds"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "force operatives, which is like their version of the CIA, to establish the largest military drone"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "production facility in all of Latin America on Venezuelan soil, pumping out armed shahed"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "style attack drones, the same type that Russia's using against Ukraine. We are on a full-blown"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "collision course now, gentlemen. With a claims of widely believed fraudulent election in 2020,"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "the US takes even more drastic steps. President Trump institutes sanctions on Venezuela, cutting"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "off what little oil purchases remained, and the economy there goes from bad to worse. The foreign"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "policy goal switches to trying to force regime change by preventing Maduro from being capable"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "of paying his forces. With millions of dollars in bounty money on the table, a group of mercenaries"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "with two former US special forces operators attempt to land on Venezuelan beaches to capture"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "Maduro and overthrow his government. The plan to exploit what they believe will be thousands of"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "soldiers who will join up against them doesn't pan out. The plan fails almost immediately."}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "Several are killed and Americans are captured and imprisoned. Venezuelan authorities killed eight"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "of the men whom they described as mercenary terrorists with smuggling of drugs, gold, and"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "selling cheap oil to China. It means that Maduro has enough to pay his forces for their loyalty."}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "And this rekindles talk of the Monroe Doctrine, a 200-year-old principle that warns rival powers"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "to stay out of the Western Hemisphere. It's originally supposed to be an agreement for"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "the US and Europe to not mess in each other's backyards, but over time it morphs into something"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "much bigger. It becomes a foundational pillar of US dominance in the hemisphere. The strategy"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "believes the US cannot become a great power of the world if it's concerned about adversaries at home."}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "So Washington uses the Monroe Doctrine to justify various bloody interventions like in Panama, coups"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "and occupations across the hemisphere. But in Moscow and Beijing, they claim that the doctrine"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "is really about pushing American imperialism. They claim it's hypocritical because at the same time,"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "the United States stations troops on Russia's border and sells warships through China's"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "coastal waters. America's response to that is they claim it's about defending sovereignty of smaller"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "nations. As Venezuela's economy entirely collapses, 7 million Venezuelan citizens"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "flee the country. Many of them to the United States and neighboring countries, causing an"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "immigration crisis across the Americas. Gangs like Trend Ara start showing up in US cities,"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "driving discussions about border security and immigration debates. What was once foreign policy"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "has quickly become domestic politics inside the United States. And that's when in 2023,"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "Maduro sees a possible way out of his predicament. He sees a way to claw back all his oil wealth and"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "his position of power domestically. He claims the disputed region from his tiny neighbor,"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "Guyana. The recently discovered oil reserves found there can make the much smaller nation of Guyana"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "the world's fastest growing oil producer. Maduro uses this threat of military action as a domestic"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "rallying point. He claims it's to defend sacred Venezuelan territory. He uses this as new leverage"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "to pressure American oil companies that want a piece of that sweet or that crude oil. Maduro uses"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "the possible invasion as justification to buy more military equipment from the Russians, Iranians,"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "and Chinese. Venezuela deploys troops right to the border of Guyana and begins building new military"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "infrastructure to create a credible threat of an invasion force. Guyana has only 4,000 troops,"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "so they call for backup. The United Kingdom sends a warship to support them. And the US under the"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "Biden administration begins holding joint military drills in solidarity and doing flyovers with"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "fighter jets. They state that they're supporting Guyana's sovereignty and they increase the reward"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "for Maduro's arrest to 15 million bucks. Now, that brings us to today and the most recent escalation."}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "The US government is once again applying maximum pressure campaign against Venezuela"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "by first increasing that bounty to $50 million from Maduro's capture. And now with sanctions so"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "far failing to create changes in the politics in Venezuela, the US government is turning to"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "an old strategy also from the 19th century like the Monroe Doctrine, gunboat diplomacy. They're"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "attempting to use a naval force to pressure Maduro into compliance without outright declaring war."}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "And that's why when you see seven US warships off Venezuela's coast today,"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "it isn't just about drug cartels likely, it fits a long pattern of power projection. Today,"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "US naval deployments surrounding Venezuela are too large to simply be to counter drug trafficking."}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "You don't need guided missile destroyers and amphibious landing vehicles to do that. But the"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "strike force is also too small for a full-blown invasion, which would require an aircraft carrier"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "and many times more troops. Instead, the fleet of warships is exactly the right size to project"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "power and put pressure on Maduro by forcing him to pay money, millions of dollars to mobilize"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "hundreds of thousands of people and equipment and troops. Funds that, as we just learned,"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "his nation does not have. It puts his forces into an alert status and forces him to react."}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "He then went on to claim to have mobilized 4 and a half million armed citizens and is threatening"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "to call up a full republic in arms which would be a tremendous sap on his resources. If this"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "pressure were to be sustained, it could lead to a coup against him or at the least a thorn"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "in his side. This wouldn't be the first time this has been done. In 1964, the US executed Operation"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "Brother Sam by sending an aircraft carrier and destroyers to Brazil in coordination with a coup"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "against their president who was unfriendly to the United States. The Brazilian president fled and"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "the generals friendly to the US seized power. US officials weren't going to allow another"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "Cuba to take root in South America then, and they likely aren't going to allow it today. In"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "gumbboat diplomacy, it isn't always about regime change. it can be for compliance to negotiate a"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "deal that involves oil sales to the United States instead of to China or the removal of Russian and"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "Iranian military infrastructure inside Venezuela. It's likely an attempt to get Latin American"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "governments to take a stronger stance against drug cartels, which Maduro is already claiming to do"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "with the deployment of 15,000 troops to the border with Colombia. But whatever the end goal is,"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "the deployment follows a clear historical trend in the Americas. When the US is unable to overthrow a"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "government like in Cuba, they instead turn to isolating that government economically until"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "they're no longer perceived as a strategic threat. I'm your average infantryman, Chris"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "Cappy. Show notes, sources, and exclusive content is available on cappyarmmy.com, where you can also"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "get our newest merch, the GI Fuel T-shirt. Thank you for watching. Ending transmission"}]